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Q&A with Stern John.
By Shaun Fuentes.
1. What’s your most memorable moment or match, whether for country or Club?
Taking Birmingham City to the Premiership. Scoring the hattrick against Colombia in Miami. Scorer the winner over Honduras in memory of Mickey, very emotional time for me. When I won the MLS topscorer award in 1998. Most recently scoring the opening goal in Panama to quiet the critics, just winning that game was something we haven’t experienced in a while, for the players and the die-hard fans. Hope you reading this are one of them or will soon be one.
2. Name two persons, whether relative or not who have been an inspiration to you.
Dwight Yorke from day one. Growing up watching the Strike Squad, and seeing him make it big in England from a third world country. That has been a major inspiration to me. My uncles and my brother Kenwyne John. When I used to come up for Dallas Cup, he used to drive us around, be around at the hotel, he’s much older than I am and he lives in Miami. Always been there for me. I tend to inspire myself because I’ve always wanted to be successful. I know how much hard work it takes to reach there. I want to make full use of a talent and I hope I can encourage others as well whether it be football or any other gift
3. Any favourite player or team?
Back in the days I always liked Marco Van Basten, Roberto Baggio. David Platt – I was privileged to play with him when he also signed me at Forest. He’s a legend. Imagine Platty was so flexible that when the ball stuck in the belly on top the goal, he used to bicycle it out. Then there’s Dwight, I think they are two of the greatest I’ve been privileged to play with.
4. You preferred other profession? SWAT (said with a big laugh).
I really like anything that has a lot of excitement. Something that’s really exciting. A state trooper chasing bad guys on the roads. I just like that adrenalin rush flow..
5. What do you hope to accomplish either in next 5 years or end of playing career?
Right now it’s helping Trinidad and Tobago to the next World Cup. That’s like a dream come true for me and my family, for all the guys on the team, for everyone in the country really. It going to be a feeling you can’t really explain. We all know we can’t do it as a one man show and right now we have been doing it really well as a team with the new gaffer and we have all intentions of keeping it up. The new gaffer has instilled a lot into the team – a lot of passion and maybe that is what we were missing before. Giving a lot more. We tend to be too passive and he’s getting us to play with a lot more emotion.
6. Who’s been among your most admired coaches and why?
I liked Rene Simoes and the current man in charge, Leo Beenhakker. Then there’s also Anton Corneal. Those coaches allow the players express themselves. They work with a plan and they know how to get players to execute to the best of their ability. I think in coaching, player management is very critical… how you going about in doing that is vital in a coach
7. What do you think of T&T’s chances of making it to the 2006 World Cup.
We have a good chance still .We started off slow but now after that Panama game we have shown that we have what it takes. We just have to keep it up. We were unfortunate to have the Mexico game so quickly after Panama. We gave up two silly goals but I’m not going to blame anyone because we win as a team and lose as a team. I was disappointed though to have played like that and then lose like that. The only thing I didn’t understand is that we played so well and yet we lost and people thought we did really well. That made the result even more disappointing for me. The team is much more organized now than ever before.
8. Any instances or plays that you always reflect on.
The disappointments just make me stronger and wanting to work harder. Having gotten so far, you never want to give up. At least I don’t. . I’m not one to go into a shell when the going gets tough. Arthur “Jap” Brown who coached me at “El Do” and at Trincity United, always used to say it’s not that hard to get to the top but it’s how you maintain it or got higher was what was the difficult part. So far I have no regrets in my career.
9. What’s the best piece of advice you’ve received?
My Mom Janet always used to say just go and do it to the best of your ability. Maybe that’s why I’m so competitive whether it be a fun game or something with high stakes involved.
10. What do you do to relax away from the game.
I’m a big movie collector. I also watch some DVDs and tapes of my old goals. I also look at the old video Columbus Crew sent to David Platt which was really what he saw before me signing at Forest.
11. What’s your favorite dish?
I eat too much lobster (laughs) and anyone who knows me knows that I love chicken… the healthy part – the centre breast.
12. Favourite drink.
A slow Gin and Vodka orange and cranberry when I’m out, away from football.
13. Favourite time of year?
Christmas because it’s all about family and close friends. Being in England for the last five years or more more away from home family and mates makes you tend to miss it a bit more.We also play through Christmas in England but still it doesn’t matter where you are in the world, you still tend to enjoy it. I also celebrate two Christmas’ in England and T&T because of the time zones (Laughs).
14. Most comfortable football boot?
Adidas.
15. Any advice to young and upcoming ones?
Set goals and go after them. Some get it faster and easier but never compare yourself with others. You can idolize others and take pointers, but you have to be yourself. There nothing that can replace hard work. Be truthful to yourself. Be true to the game like Michael said.
A note from Stern himself:
Hope you fans enjoyed that! Currently I'm in Miami with the Trinidad and Tobago National Team preparing for the CONCACAF Gold Cup. We play our first game against Honduras on Wednesday at the Orange Bowl. Should be a pretty exciting game and I'm looking forward to it. I scored the lone goal against them to knock them out of the 2002 World Cup runnings and I also scored when we beat them 3-1 in the 1998 Gold Cup. Hopefully I can get another good performance in and we can be successful as a team once again.
Source:
www.sternjohn.com
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Stern sounding confident which is a good thing. I cyah wait for de Honduras match....
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. Who’s been among your most admired coaches and why?
I liked Rene Simoes and the current man in charge, Leo Beenhakker. Then there’s also Anton Corneal. Those coaches allow the players express themselves. They work with a plan and they know how to get players to execute to the best of their ability. I think in coaching, player management is very critical… how you going about in doing that is vital in a coach
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Stern was very expressive in his interview...more so than some of the other fellas gave interviews. He said what was on his mind.
It was interesting to note that considering the many coaches he has worked under in the national team, he mentioned the ones that had a plan. As if working with a plan is/was not the norm ???
Ah like this one
10. What do you do to relax away from the game.
I’m a big movie collector. I also watch some DVDs and tapes of my old goals. I also look at the old video Columbus Crew sent to David Platt which was really what he saw before me signing at Forest.
The fella love heself boy. LOL
That is ah good thing though. Cause he always reminding heself what he capable of doing. He know he bound to score. Good attitude.
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triniman yuh vex he say anton eh?
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triniman yuh vex he say anton eh?
Boss is 4th July long weekend and you here riding Triniman!..look..go chase some nanny on the beach nah!
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triniman yuh vex he say anton eh?
Boss is 4th July long weekend and you here riding Triniman!..look..go chase some nanny on the beach nah!
ah like dah one jumbie
ah also like de interview, and it is correct for one to say that he was very expressive in this one!
But de man eh mention bertile atall! in fact, it look like none ah de players and dem does mention bertile as one ah de coaches dey enjoy working wit (except yorke)
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Andre, organize a interview with Derek King.......see wha he saying.
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yeah andre arrange an interview with derick king nuh man where is he playing now for joe public.
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Andre, organize a interview with Derek King.......see wha he saying.
lol......good one touches!
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Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
By Alan Poole (Coventry Evening Telegraph)
Ricoh hero Dele Adebola insists that axed partner Stern John can still play a major role for Coventry City this season.
Adebola notched two goals on Saturday as the Sky Blues marked the first match at their £113million arena with a 3-0 triumph against Queens Park Rangers, and manager Micky Adams hailed his combination with summer signing James Scow-croft as “terrific - everything I wanted from a pair of strikers.”
But Adebola, clutching his man-ofthe-match champagne, interrupted the celebrations to give a vote of confidence to under-fire John.
“When he’s on top form, Stern should arguably be playing in the Premier League,” insisted Adebola.
“The fans have been on his back a bit but I think they can see what he offers the team.
“It’s just unfortunate that the first few games didn’t go according to plan, but as the season progresses he’ll get to full fitness and you’ll see the best of him. It’s not just Stern; I haven’t been happy with all of my performances.
“It’s a long hard season and I think the manager will rotate his strikers. We’ve got a really good collection of forwards here now and whatever partnership he goes for I think will do well.”
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That was a real nice gesture there. The man understand that right now Stern in a situation where he feeling unwanted by everybody. Is like if your friends (Coventry) and family (Trinidad) cast you aside when you need them most, because u messed up. Tha's when you need them most, to get you back on your feet, and they not there. And the thing is, since Coventry win there and we going to beat Guatemala on the 3rd, is like u realise that things better without you. Tha's the kinda thing that is make children want to run away or even drive some people to suicide (I not talking about Stern here, eh,fellas, just in general).Taking the time to let Stern know that he still wanted and needed in the team will be a big and timely lift to the man.
I feel if he really doh make the squad for the 3rd, we need to put up some kind of "We still love you Stern" or maybe put a billboard of him up somewhere in the stadium so he know we eh abandon him after so much years of brilliance and committment. Stern hadda be a in a real mess confidence wise right now...
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* sniff sniff * water came to my eyes when I read that post oui. I feeling sorry for de man now.. Doh get me wrong eh, I real pong stern too.. but i can understand that he might be under some pressha... We should really do something fuh him.!
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* sniff sniff * water came to my eyes when I read that post oui. I feeling sorry for de man now.. Doh get me wrong eh, I real pong stern too.. but i can understand that he might be under some pressha... We should really do something fuh him.!
Sorry....but Stern don't deserve my compassion until I see some effort from de man.....He not trying!!! He does stan' up an expect ball to just reach he foot. Who does run ball like dat? Steups....
Stern........RIDE PINE!!!
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That was a real nice gesture there. The man understand that right now Stern in a situation where he feeling unwanted by everybody. Is like if your friends (Coventry) and family (Trinidad) cast you aside when you need them most, because u messed up. Tha's when you need them most, to get you back on your feet, and they not there. And the thing is, since Coventry win there and we going to beat Guatemala on the 3rd, is like u realise that things better without you. Tha's the kinda thing that is make children want to run away or even drive some people to suicide (I not talking about Stern here, eh,fellas, just in general).Taking the time to let Stern know that he still wanted and needed in the team will be a big and timely lift to the man.
I feel if he really doh make the squad for the 3rd, we need to put up some kind of "We still love you Stern" or maybe put a billboard of him up somewhere in the stadium so he know we eh abandon him after so much years of brilliance and committment. Stern hadda be a in a real mess confidence wise right now...
How about a sign for the fella who Stern just beat out over the years...an one for the fellas who constantly just miss out on making the team, constantly...and one for who getting call to tryout and never selected...how about a sign for the rest of T&T who doh make..or one sign covering Stern and everybody reading
"WE LOVE YOU T&T"
Is only football, doh compare to a youth who get shut out of real life, I know many, and knew a few when they were alive...Stern plenty good still, an achieve plenty, more than a majority....3 cheers for Stern...Hip,hip,hip
wait lehme open the window, ah ain't hearing allyuh
Hip, hip, hip
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Spideybuff and occonnorg ah share all yuh sentiments. Does Stern deserve to be criticized for his game? Yes! Should Stern be benched? Yes! Should we give more deserving strikers a chance? Yes! Should we just cast him aside and watch him descend into oblivion? No!
Stern was one of T&T's most prolific goal scorers. He dominated the MLS and has brought world attention to our 2 tiny islands. In all of his successes though, what I have admired the most about him is that he has always been there for T&T. Is this how we treat a fellow son of the soil who has given himself to his country? Come on people leh we show de man some compassion and respect. He at least deserves that...
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Spideybuff and occonnorg ah share all yuh sentiments. Does Stern deserve to be criticized for his game? Yes! Should Stern be benched? Yes! Should we give more deserving strikers a chance? Yes! Should we just cast him aside and watch him descend into oblivion? No!
Stern was one of T&T's most prolific goal scores. He dominated the MLS and has brought world attention to our 2 tiny islands. In all of his successes though, what I have admired the most about him is that he has always been there for T&T. Is this how we treat a fellow son of the soil who has given himself to his country? Come on people leh we show de man some compassion and respect. He at least deserves that...
Well said, some of these same posters cried and tore their hair when they perceived Latapy as betraying them, yet when the shoe is on the other foot, they wish to quickly forget one of our best and most committed.
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But rocwell, committment doh include snapping at man heels, setting up goals and proper fitness?
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But rocwell, committment doh include snapping at man heels, setting up goals and proper fitness?
stern reaching back brother, he lose a lot of the weight that was slowing him down...but is match fitness that go keep him running down them bal and them for 90 mins..and sadly, now when he need it is when he look like he goin' and get bench....but doh forget stern at all...this world funny, keep encouraging him, and maybe he will come back to the stern we all know for the world cup...how much better that will be!!!
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Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????
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who say he should ah neva take off whitley
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Stern is still fu*&king shitttt!!!!
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Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????
Hull U tail.. Stern was offside 4 times and countless times in games before.. buh at least he proved the coach correct! dats why bennie getting paid!
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Stern boy today yuh make me eat all meh words. Thanks. :beermug:
Hope u keep it up at least yuh break the streak
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i always had him starting in my formation..he woulda come good evenutally..but he still ent even halfway there yet..especially we knowing what he capable of.
Thanks again Latas :notworthy:
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Regardless of past perfomances when he alone was carrying the flag. Those two goals today were flukes. Marvin could have scored those. So what say you now naysayers?
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Stern wake up. We need him to score at CR and Pan.
Then I will be happy.
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i see it have no pleasing guys like u. d man aint score u complaining, d man score twice and u still complaining. i feel u from guatimala.
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come on man..leave de 'drop' talk till tomororw nah..now is a time to be thankful and celebrate..lets just enjoy the moment :cheers:
we go dissect the performnace tomorow after lunch.
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Are you related to DOC?
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come on man..leave de 'drop' talk till tomororw nah..now is a time to be thankful and celebrate..lets just enjoy the moment :cheers:
we go dissect the performnace tomorow after lunch.
You didnt get it, did you?
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As we praise John and rightly so,Latapy made de difference and redeem him (Stern) today.
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Leave that boys Unite fellas we are all warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thank you very much stern.......once again he did it...i hope everybody shut up now....if tnt qualify it'll be the 2 biggest goals in tnt history...cuz with a draw or loss today we was out. keep calling for him to get dropped.
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Stern hasn't redeemed himself...Good for him & T&T to score...but it have other fellas who busting dey ass for 1 of dem many chances he getting...if yuh leave him out dey iit must happen sooner or later....yuh think he fully back ? would he not throw way any more ? for our sake and his, I hope not...
Mind you, when I see the game, I will then give my recommendations to BeenE... :D
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DROP STERN!!!!!!!! DROP STERN!!!!!!!!!
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DROP STERN lucky to score today. My grandmother has one leg and blind and could have scored those!!
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Colonel i thought it was only Doc who had bad comprehensive skills. Nobody has picked up on the sarcasm, including you. I now demote you to private ;D
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i really dont get ppl sumtime
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Lets revel in the moment, its been a long while since we've had something big to cheer.
I agree with Sub, to an extent.
Stern is just a scorer, nothing else,so when he doesnt score, he is a waste. He was on a serious drought. Thes ethings happen, it was just it was in the middle of our campaign.
But the thing is with him, we is a streak player.
His confidence is his main weapon.
He must be on top the world.
At the end of the day, he is a Trini jus like all of us, the only difference is that he is a a supporter who actually plays for the team.
Just to be ina spot to put the ball in a net takes a skill that precious few in world have.
Stern has that.
Up to 2 games ago, I was one of his biggest defenders, just like how I defended BSC. Then I started to question his present contribution and wonder if I was blinded by his phenomenal scoring past.
Truth be told, a healthy Stern John must always have a place in a TT team, whether he start or used as a sub. I really dont mind benching him, but he has delivered for us in the past when we no one else could.
I think he pretty much guaranteed his starting spot for the remainder of the campaign.
But I see Sub's point.
Latas influence today showed us something about stern john and service.
We had better keep focus for Wed, this is now a very very big game for us.
In the meantime, LETS REVEL IN TT's VICTORY EVERYONE!
No bitterness.
Wow, what deja vu from 89.
I hope stern starting another streak!
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DROP STERN!!!!!!!! DROP STERN!!!!!!!!!
No World cup!!! no World cup!!!! :rotfl:
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Lets revel in the moment, its been a long while since we've had something big to cheer.
I agree with Sub, to an extent.
Stern is just a scorer, nothing else,so when he doesnt score, he is a waste. He was on a serious drought. Thes ethings happen, it was just it was in the middle of our campaign.
But the thing is with him, we is a streak player.
His confidence is his main weapon.
He must be on top the world.
At the end of the day, he is a Trini jus like all of us, the only difference is that he is a a supporter who actually plays for the team.
Just to be ina spot to put the ball in a net takes a skill that precious few in world have.
Stern has that.
Up to 2 games ago, I was one of his biggest defenders, just like how I defended BSC. Then I started to question his present contribution and wonder if I was blinded by his phenomenal scoring past.
Truth be told, a healthy Stern John must always have a place in a TT team, whether he start or used as a sub. I really dont mind benching him, but he has delivered for us in the past when we no one else could.
I think he pretty much guaranteed his starting spot for the remainder of the campaign.
But I see Sub's point.
Latas influence today showed us something about stern john and service.
We had better keep focus for Wed, this is now a very very big game for us.
In the meantime, LETS REVEL IN TT's VICTORY EVERYONE!
No bitterness.
Wow, what deja vu from 89.
I hope stern starting another streak!
Trini if you didn't realise that i was being sarcastic then let me say it big and bold. This is for all those who have been murdering him. Froth always rises to the top.
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YEA IT DOES, BUT BEENIS WAS A VERY BRAVE MAN TO STICK WITH HIM.
LETS HOPE FOR ALL OF OUR SAKE, STERN CAN BUILD ON IT.
WE NEED 2 WINS AGAIN STILL
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Regardless of past perfomances when he alone was carrying the flag. Those two goals today were flukes. Marvin could have scored those. So what say you now naysayers?
That is a hard statement to make but understandable with all of the disappointment from time past.
Let us just be thankful for Stern taking his chances.
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come on man..leave de 'drop' talk till tomororw nah..now is a time to be thankful and celebrate..lets just enjoy the moment :cheers:
we go dissect the performnace tomorow after lunch.
You didnt get it, did you?
who's Doc?..and no i didn't get what u was talking bout either..please clarify
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I cyah belive men praisin' stern john, praise de whole 4kin team, steups
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Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????
I'll tell yuh what all ah we have to say about that,thank god for latas,he make him look good!
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the difference on the team is one player and is not Stern John. Me eh know if you see the other qualifiers Mr John played in. Like yuh was waiting all dis time fuh he tuh score, tuh post yuh comments, dais basic probability, if yuh is a forward yuh hah tuh score sooner or later. We needed it since Ash Wednesday. Mr. John is your hero, not mine
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If it wasnt for Stern John 2 goals ...we would have loss so wtf wrong wit u Stern John haters?!
yall just talking shi tt ...and it wasnt no shit goals either
yall just have nutting good to say so u complain bout something
a goal is a goal
he is the one who put two in the back of d net
NUFF SAID
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Wait like I missing something....it have people here who Hate Stern John ? you just post 2 post here, and ah sure yuh was reading for awhile...plus it have others who calling people SJ haters...I really not sure who here hate Stern at all...ah more think, allyuh looking for somebody to go to war with...best allyuh battle with each other...
if yuh wha discuss, what is best for T&T based on present performance, I am sure yuh could get plenty discussion...if yuh wha fight with man, because of personal preferences, look for each other...knock allyuh self out...
Well done T&T, we still have tougher games ahead...good luck
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Well done T&T, we still have tougher games ahead...good luck
Nuff Said. Let us enjoy this victory and focus on the next task at hand, Costa Rica on de road. There were some serious pluses to take away from this performance. Looking at the game we deserved this victory and Stern regardless of what was done in the recent past is deserving of some worthy mention.
Me aint know anybody family on this site but only a real hater (or someone who did not see the game) would say he one legged half blind family could score those two goals. Clinical finishig. Overall C+/B- game for Stern but goals win matches, and his won it for us.
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Some of allyuh new bandwagon posters real kicksy yes...allyuh now come on dis forum even though is years we here...trying to start shit instead of enjoying de victory. Last ah check we live in ah democracy. If man playing shit, dey go get call out. If man playing well, dey go get dey props. Well done Stern.
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Stern has now moved to 11th on de all time list of international goal scorers. He now has 61 goals in 85 games, a strike rate of 72%.
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what I reading here is incredible!!!! why men fighting stern so? anyway is not to let a$$holes like dem get me mad on such a great day nah.
BIG UP TO THE MAXIMUM STERN JOHN!!!!!!!!
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Well dun stern i always with d man jus have faith
and doh study dese assholes hoo ripping away d man wen we in germany and dey drunk an singing stern name after a hat trick against brazil ;D is big stone and cuff in dey effin hard pan
allyuh hoo disgracing d man hull ya ass and take a stewpsss
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Stern has now moved to 11th on de all time list of international goal scorers. He now has 61 goals in 85 games, a strike rate of 72%.
Tallman, you have that list available? would be nice to see what kinda names stern keeping company with in the top 15 or 20 there.
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There is no hatred of Stern John; Fellazs were critiquing Stern because of his performance, and everybody wants the old-Stern to come back.
Stern's two goals came when the defender marking him was off the field. The defender was getting a cut bandaged. Nice goals though. Anyway I agree that we should leave analysis of the match till another day. But I must add what a performance by Latapy and Yorke!
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prodigy23...look gih we ah f&*iin chance wit dah chupid talk nah! all de time Stern wasnt producing and man call for him tuh get sub yuh was no f%$*in where tuh defend him....
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I just want to say WELL DONE STERN.
You helped us win a must win game. I hope this does alot for confidence it spurs you on to do alot better and in the future.
To all the men who have the negative things still to say about you :flamethrower: for all of allya
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BELIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT. Stern good show of character. You weathered te torms of controversy and the collective frustrations but as atrue Warrior, you prevailed and delivered when it mattered.
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Tongue, what kinda madness u talking?? i mean i dont post on this site everyday, like u, but de few times i posted something it was about stern john. so do sum research before u call my name, a$$hole.
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salt and fresh is ah mad felah ppl doh tek he on . :rotfl:
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IN A BIG RACE MOTHERFU%KERS.....YOU PUT YOUR MONEY ON THE BIG FU%KIN HORSE...FULL STOP......THANK GOD DON LEO HAS SEEN IT ALL BEFORE.....TNT TNT TNT
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I like many other forumites called for Stern to be benched. We had endless reasons for that call. However, Stern proved that as a "big player" ( ;D..in more ways than 1)...he stepped up when we were in desperate need. Congrats are also in order to Leo for sticking with Stern.....it just goes to show that soemtimes we as fans don't know ah damn ting....Anyway...congrats Stern and the entire Soca Warriors team....YOU DID US PROUD.
P.S. My apologies again to Stern...u scored 2 crucial goals yesterday....I see some people already bawling u were offside 9 times...very true...but u SCORED 2 CRUCIAL GOALS.....I will take 9 offsides and 2 goals any day.
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Ey youth check yourself in a hurry ....man here backing this team before you born.......it eh have no I in team....when yuh get older you'll learn dat....
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STERN IS SHITTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! STERN IS SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
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Ey youth check yourself in a hurry ....man here backing this team before you born.......it eh have no I in team....when yuh get older you'll learn dat....
that sounding like BIG magician not small. Big does use small profile to post sometimes
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Stern has now moved to 11th on de all time list of international goal scorers. He now has 61 goals in 85 games, a strike rate of 72%.
Tallman, you have that list available? would be nice to see what kinda names stern keeping company with in the top 15 or 20 there.
Players with 30 or more international goals (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/century.html#goals)
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DROP STERN!!!!!!!!!!!!! offside a million times..out of the last few games he had 12000 chances scored 2..thank GOD it was against GU....he lucky.........DROP HIM!!!!
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fair enough..... but youthful enthusiasm or excessive liquor father or son....they still have to check themselves they
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sorry fellas and sorry small magician....it is i the big magician who made the post......maradona 7......hear wha going on........FU#K OFF
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I doh tink apologies are needed for Stern...he wasnt scoring and his performances were not helping us. majority of posters and football people kept sayin dis....however tonite he found his touch and was able to score not one but 2 goals for US....Stern wuk is to score goals and the critasizin is jus someting he have tuh deal wit.....
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Guatemalan reporters saying that the goal from Stern John came due to the fact the his marker was off the field being treated for a cut on his face ???
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Quote : "Both goals came as defender Gustavo Cabrera, John's marker, was being treated off the field for a cut on the cheek."
i didnt notice anyman walking off d field from injury at dat time ??? ???
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Do we fall into the same syndrome of sugar coating everything and willing to overlook all shortcomings so blatantly evident in Calypso Cricket by transposing that attitude to Trinidad & Tobago Football?
Stern John has been through the cliche dry-patch that Brian Lara saw in the late 90s. As the faithful, we preached "Form is temporary, class is permanent". Lara was always the best and it was only a matter of time and tweeking his technique in a game that offers the relief of getting "another chance". Trinidad & Tobago does not have that other chance - we have 90 minutes per game and only a few more games remaining before the two best footballers of our generation hang up their international boots for good.
What we must ask is whether or not Stern's 2 goals in 2 minutes heralds a return to form? ..... or was it temporary relief - at a juncture that warranted more than just luck and magic - but more of divine intervention.
What's .. Who's to say that Stern John has returned to form? .... what if he goes into another crucial matchup on Wednesday and does not revert to "Stern Turn" ..... but the "Stern Stumble"? There isn't going to be a strong enough Trini presence in Costa Rica to drown out the Ticos and plead for a sub.
At the most throughout the campaign, Stern John has looked nothing but a shadow of his former self .... and do we risk wasting a sub on him on Wednesday by starting him and hoping that his renewed confidence is translated in goals galore? ... or do we start Scott Sealy ... or call upon the services of the ever willing, ever goal scoring - Cornell Glen?
I did not see the match, but I have had to rely on post match reports - so I might be wrong in my evaluation of Stern's performance ... but anything less would be a dis-service to Trinidad & Tobago's drive to accomplish one of the nation's ultimate goals.
Hopefully my pessimism is an over-reaction, and he bangs in two more early on in Costa Rica - my passports been ready since 1990, and I really don't want Nov 19th to come on Oct 12th in Mexico.
Go Warriors!!
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so what?
Is licks in dey arse. me eh care if he was orf getting he arse waxed by triniman.
Is gollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!
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THAT IS TRUE...DE MAN CAME OFF FOR TREATMENT.....SO WHA DEM GUATS EXPECT....FOR WE COACH TO TELL A DE GUATS TO REORGANISE AND MARK STERN...
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With alll due respects:
This is a player who has done yeoman duty for TNT; had the good times and had recently suffered the indignities of failures to the point he was subbed off aganist the USA. This is aplayer who has battled the critics and endured the wrath of a the fan's frustration; this is a player who has been a scapegoat for our team's failures, NOW he has redeemed himself and man still questioning? ah shucks!!!
Let's give the man some slack today!!!
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Well done Stern. Plenty folks don't understand that you play your heart out for T&T, never turn down an international game even if yuh manager in the UK want to put you in de dog house. These little ungrateful johhny-come-lately shitheads don't understand that your name was "Bound to score" and could easily be changed to "Bound to eventually score". Thanks for scoring those goals in the dying minutes with all that pressure, when nerves were fraying all around you. Thank you Dwight for that do or die run that you made and instinctively gave it to Stern instead of trying something yourself. Magic. Thank you Beenie for having the wisdom and judgement and faith.
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I for one have great respect for the sacrifices Stern has made for T&T. Though they are greater players, you cannot say the same for Latas and Yorke. I have sympathy with the fella losing it with the fans as he has been getting stick pretty much non-stop fuh the whole campaign....he was bound tuh break sooner or later, he only human. I must also say he should start the next game as its madness to drop a scoring striker.
What I am unhappy about is blind praise of the guy. I have seen most of Stern's performances this campaign (eventually) and I'm sorry but the guy was getting pick purely based on past reputation and not current form. We can say Stern has made a significant contribution to this campaign but to say it has been a mainly positive contribution....well sorry I will only admit that if we come fourth or higher after 10 games. With the amount of high quality chances that man has wasted this campaign we would have been in a strong 3rd place and (dare I say it) Gold cup finalists by now if he had scored 30% of them!!
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True Rodney, but he is perhaps the best we have right now, well at least tried and tested.
We need a striker to ketch fire if we are to get to Germany.
I see Stern more likley to do that than Jones, Sealy, Scotland.
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Stern John willing to sacrifice place. :o
By: Shaun Fuentes
Check the archives for theis postings; de man is aware of his inept play but he has also been given an opportunity to redeem himself; He did so now could we let him build on this performance?
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Stern is the best goalscorer TnT ever produced (at least in modern times...I too young to go back before the late 80s). The man was out of form and it is normal that some fans wanted him to ride the bench since there were some young warriors out there who seemed to be in better form, and seemed hungrier. Why all the Stern fans acting like they want to throw Stern goals in everbody face? It real sad that you all believe that everyone not elated too. Maybe there are some serious Stern haters out there. But so what? let them be miserable. As far as I can see, just about everyone want the old Stern back. Those that cuss him and get personal done get they cuss from Stern 'self yesterday ;D
Anyhow, the truth be told, stern 2 goals are exactly that....2 goals. He had a poor game and missed some golden opportunities. That is not hate, that is just how some see it. I am not surprised that some still want him on the bench, cause they believe that if he really was the old Stren he would have 4 goals yesterday. I don't know if I agree with that, but I doh see it as hate, or ungratefulness, just a different opinion. Stern has not proven that he is back to form, and I am sure he feels thee same way. It makes no sense to get carried away after 1 game, when we have so much still to do. BUT he has earned the chance to try and continue his exploits against Costa Rica. Just as you argue people should not get carried away after numerous poor performances, it is good to follow your own advice, and not get too carried away after 1 effective performance. For now, let us jus be happy and hope he gives Costa Rica hell.
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We can say Stern has made a significant contribution to this campaign but to say it has been a mainly positive contribution....well sorry I will only admit that if we come fourth or higher after 10 games.
simple truth, if it wasn't for stern double, yesterday woulda be Novermebr 19th pt 2...ah lie? so you wouldn't say that was positive?
With the amount of high quality chances that man has wasted this campaign we would have been in a strong 3rd place and (dare I say it) Gold cup finalists by now if he had scored 30% of them!!
alright, somebody else have to help me here and let we go back thru all the matches one by one.
USA match...me ent think stern had any real chance he throw way there
Mexico Match - neither.
Panama match - it ent really matter cuz we win anyway ie you could only get 3 pts from a win right?.
anyway, that topic aside...we spend months and months talking about trinidad doh have a midfield...we bring in and add it up piece by piece.
How the hell you expect the man to score if he not gettin no ball? Since when trinidad get so bold to expect they striker to score every chance given to him? As far as I see from wathcin football, most teams does have 9 -12 shots at goal and score 2...dat doh mean men does harp on the 7-10 that they throw way...anyway I now seein myself biased on the for stern side so ah go stop...but naswer mih this one b4 I go.
we make it to the world cup, trinidad score 1 goal in teh whole tournament....who most likely score that goal?
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The various points are getting more responsible now. What was bad, was the shameful, unpatriotic abusive, contemptuous, ungrateful remarks. You can call him out of form or suggest he be benched for a while but making comments that have the "shittong-like" vulgarity is hate and displaced hate. It's wrong (for those who are doing it). The tone is wrong. Criticism is good and welcome. Don't get me wrong.
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Stern is the best goalscorer TnT ever produced (at least in modern times...I too young to go back before the late 80s).
Sorry Fella, Steve David was better...maybe a bit before your time...but T&T didn't play half as much then as they do now or his record would have been fantastic!.
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Heheh...I like it, but I cah go back that far.
Plus, I said he is the best goalscorer...which is all about stats. And as far as I know, you canot touch Stern stats.
The best forward (not just goalscorer) in modern times was Leonson Lewis. Could finish like Stern, but had everything else too. Technique, speed, dribbling...Real underrated Trini genius
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We can say Stern has made a significant contribution to this campaign but to say it has been a mainly positive contribution....well sorry I will only admit that if we come fourth or higher after 10 games.
simple truth, if it wasn't for stern double, yesterday woulda be Novermebr 19th pt 2...ah lie? so you wouldn't say that was positive?
With the amount of high quality chances that man has wasted this campaign we would have been in a strong 3rd place and (dare I say it) Gold cup finalists by now if he had scored 30% of them!!
alright, somebody else have to help me here and let we go back thru all the matches one by one.
USA match...me ent think stern had any real chance he throw way there
Mexico Match - neither.
Panama match - it ent really matter cuz we win anyway ie you could only get 3 pts from a win right?.
anyway, that topic aside...we spend months and months talking about trinidad doh have a midfield...we bring in and add it up piece by piece.
How the hell you expect the man to score if he not gettin no ball? Since when trinidad get so bold to expect they striker to score every chance given to him? As far as I see from wathcin football, most teams does have 9 -12 shots at goal and score 2...dat doh mean men does harp on the 7-10 that they throw way...anyway I now seein myself biased on the for stern side so ah go stop...but naswer mih this one b4 I go.
we make it to the world cup, trinidad score 1 goal in teh whole tournament....who most likely score that goal?
Just to retort :devil: ...so yuh call 2 goals in one game a mainly positive contribution over the 7 games we have played so far in the hex. It was a positive contribution in one game...I did say after all 10games.
Believe what you will about his opportunities during the campaign...that truely is a matter of opinion but are you saying Stern has deserved his pick in EVERY game so far this campaign (including the GC). And that he has scored all the clearcut chances served up for him. So you saying Stern in form then? Notice I did'nt say First or Second place for T&T so I think I did take into account the opponents we were not supposed to mash up!
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Rodney,
Do you know something about Stern's abliity that Beenhakker does not?
Doh take it the wrong way; maybe yuh see soemthing or you know soemthing from John's play in the U.K that may shed soem light oh his form of late.
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Rodney,
Do you know something about Stern's abliity that Beenhakker does not?
Do you?...infact does anyone? I haven't said drop him. I like how on this forum when you crticise a player man does ask if you know better than the coach. It is just an opinion and mine is that Stern has not justified his inclusion in every game and we have had the oppertunity to see other options but did not take it (i.e the gold cup).So I guess you also think he has deserved his starting place in every game he has played. We will never know if other players could have done better cause all have had either cameo's or the odd start.
Anyway this is like flogging a dead horse as we know he will start on Wednesday and I aint got ah problem with that at the moment cause he deserves it.
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"goals by Stern John and Dennis Lawrence in the 34th and 70th minutes, respectively, led the host Trinidad & Tobago (1-2-1, 4 Points) to a 2:0 win over Panama (0-2-2, 2 Points) at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain." - concacaf.com
3 of trinidad's 7 goals so far in the campaign...not bad stern!!
Just to retort :devil: ...so yuh call 2 goals in one game a mainly positive contribution over the 7 games we have played so far in the hex. It was a positive contribution in one game...I did say after all 10games.
opponents we were not supposed to mash up!
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Ah still find it alarming dat he go tell de crowd to 4q off...not once but twice. He jes making heself ah future target fuh more picong when he throwing away or offsides. He should apologize if is cuss he cuss de fans. Man come and pack stadium...no complaints about lack of crowd...and yuh go cuss dem. When you a star, yuh never far from de spotlight. Yuh does get criticize fuh poor form and then praise when yuh score. Dis comes with the territory especially in a high profile sport like football. When yuh choose dat career, yuh have opened up yuhself to public scrutiny. Yuh jes have to accept things the way they are and stay above dem kinda classless behaviour. Ultimately, we all wish him the best.
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Rodney,
Do you know something about Stern's abliity that Beenhakker does not?
Doh take it the wrong way; maybe yuh see soemthing or you know soemthing from John's play in the U.K that may shed soem light oh his form of late.
Actually it is that exact thing that have me being so negative on Stern. To me Stern makes more of an effort (no that is unfair), it is more that he seems to do more for Coventry unlike when playing for T&T where he generally seems play as a goalscorer and nothing else, if you get my meaning. Unlike the fickle fans at Coventry I think his contributions (when he plays) are very positive for them. Before people start slating me for suggesting Stern not that committed to T&T. I do except it could be down to tactics and how his coach wants him to contribute during games. I just wonder what would have happened if like at Coventry, Stern had tasted the bench once or twice earlier in the campaign.
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I agree wit biga84...let we unite fellas. We retain our right to praise and criticize but let we not take this personal. Instead of celebrating...all we hearing is Stern dis and Stern dat...so Stern above de national team's achievement? What is really is more important eh...Stern starting, Stern should bench, Stern scoring, Stern eating too much sponge cake, de crowd booing Stern or bemoaning his misses, Stern cussing we, Stern is only a post up fella, Stern always offside, Stern cyah create, Stern throwing away sitters, Stern work rate slow...oh gosh man...de team getting closer to Germany...the dream is alive and well. Focus peeps, de next two games will say a lot about us because the final game won't be easy. Ah hope we have enough in de tank fuh de next game after dis Guatemala game because we need some of that same intensity. Go T&T!!!
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...oh gosh man...de team getting closer to Germany...the dream is alive and well. Focus peeps, de next two games will say a lot about us because the final game won't be easy.
Savannah boy yuh thief meh post. Time for we to refocus on this board. De journey still alive but hard like concrete.
By the time we meet Panama they may have nothing to play for but being a spoiler and I beieve they are better than their results. The first 10 minutes of yesterday's Costa Rica - Panama game is the most hard luck yuh could ask to see.
As meh boy Tambu say in a different life - De Journey Now Start.
Man still have de right to criticize or praise but remember "Together we apsire, Together we achieve."
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Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Derby Evening Telegraph
Striker Stern John will become a Derby County player in time for Sunday's home Championship clash with Southampton. John will arrive on a three-month loan from Coventry City later this week to take full advantage of the 93-day rule.
The later the Trinidad and Tobago international signs, the later he can stay. If the 28-year-old is registered as a Rams player at noon on Saturday, he can remain at Derby until December 17.
He would then go back to Coventry before joining the Rams permanently once the transfer window reopens in January. There is little point in registering John earlier because he is unable to play against his current club, Coventry, when they visit Pride Park tomorrow night.
Derby will pay a fee for the player, possibly around £150,000. He cost Coventry £200,000 from Birmingham City a year ago and has another two years to run on his contract. John spoke to Rams manager Phil Brown at Moor Farm yesterday.
"Stern looks up for a new challenge," said Brown. "He is a big, powerful lad and we're looking forward to having him in place for the weekend." Director of football Murdo Mackay added: "We tried very hard to get players in last week and we are very close to bringing in new faces again and the board support that."
The move for John has been ongoing for about a week but had to be put on hold while he was away on international duty. John, who has also played for Nottingham Forest, was in World Cup action for Trinidad and Tobago last week.
He scored twice in a 3-2 qualifying win over Guatemala and started the 2-0 defeat by Costa Rica. Derby are keen to make sure business is done properly after the Adrian Heath saga in the summer. Heath quit as number two at Coventry to become Brown's assistant at Derby but returned to Highfield Road a week later after the two clubs failed to reach an agreement over compensation. Heath was assistant to Peter Reid when Coventry signed John.
"I don't think Stern has done as well for us as his ability suggests he should," said Heath.
"We have seen glimpses of what he can do but a change might do him good. "I'm disappointed it has not worked out for him because I thought he would be a terrific asset to the club.
"He will go on loan to Derby with a view to a permanent deal. If it goes through, we will wish him well because you do not like to see a player of his ability struggle."
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go brave stern...ah feel coventry was yuh blight!!
go to derby and rip up de championship.
ah still eh seeing no quote from stern stating his feelings about the move!
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That was quick! Well we hadda hope for the best now. Derby have a striker shortage so much so that their coach had to suit up, which implies that Stern should get a run..hopefully play himself back into some kind of form. Anybody of our english based forumites can give us some insight on the Derby coach and what type of game he likes to play? We just need them to realise that although Stern big and strong he is not a post up player...he needs to back in the habit of getting balls played into him while he facing the goal !
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good luck stern.....best wishes...i cant believe i have to check derby results now.....lol...god bless
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That article says alot about stern at this point in time.......its purely mental...he has a confidence crisis and its not only seen by the national team obviously but by his club coach....and he's the only one who can bring thaqt agression back...if its physical a coach can train him if its mental he is his only coach........... :(
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sometiems with a change like this it does wake men up, make them feel renewed and feel like the have to show and prove the team that moved them that it was a mistake.
Lets hope he has that kind of pride in himself. I think he was out of favor with Coventry to this should be a good situation for him, just hope the new team is willing to let him go, as he is their main man now.
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Mean While.. Coventry Fans i am sure are extatic!!
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Well this is Stern chance to re-vitalise his career. New club new opportunity. Better grab this one and score some goals.
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Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
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glad to see stern get another chance to revitalise his successful career. he deserves the chance and i believe this move can reap benefits for the trinidad and tobago team. ah happy stern john can only be an asset for our team!!!
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Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ah have rice all over meh friggin monitor now..
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Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
Arrow that hard (funny like hell but hard) but the really funny thing about your post is that real men on this site have that thought deep down inside. ;D ;D
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Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ah have rice all over meh friggin monitor now..
Jumbie what wrong wit you man...I nearly short circuit my f-in computer here man....watch what you saying nah man. Is water all over meh keyboard and monitor.
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arrow, yuh is ah damn arse!
haahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
send Camps too.
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Stern John: Under pressure
By Steve Nicholson (Derby Evening Telegraph)
Stern John accepts he is under pressure to deliver the goals for Derby County following the departure of Grzegorz Rasiak.
John is expected to lead the attack against Southampton tomorrow after completing a three-month loan move from Coventry City.
But as he looks forward to making his debut, he knows there will be comparisons with last season's 17-goal striker, Rasiak.
"People will see me as a replacement and obviously there will be some pressure on me but I'll just get my head down, work hard and try to do what I do best - score goals," he said.
"I'm not Grzegorz Rasiak, I can only be myself, and hopefully by the end of my loan spell the Derby fans will be smiling and happy with my performances."
The Trinidad and Tobago international has hit 53 goals in 198 games with Nottingham Forest, Birmingham City and Coventry.
Rams boss Phil Brown admits John has big boots to fill now Rasiak has gone to Tottenham Hotspur but is confident his new signing can provide goals.
"Grzegorz was a one goal in every two games striker but they are difficult to find and cost big money," said Brown.
"Stern is a one-in-three man and is in our market. He is strong, has a good touch, can play with his back to goal, hold the ball up and turn defenders. He'll have the number nine shirt recently worn by Rasiak.
"I'll be demanding goals from Stern and I see no reason why he can't deliver given the service we can provide from the likes of Tommy Smith and Morten Bisgaard, as well as Inigo Idiakez's set-pieces."
John has struggled to hold down a regular place at Coventry this season and is looking for a fresh start with Derby.
The two clubs had agreed to make the move permanent when the transfer window reopens in January, with the Rams paying a fee of around £150,000, but they do not now have to buy the player.
John is hoping to impress enough to stay permanently.
"It was frustrating and difficult for me at Coventry," he said. "With no disrespect to the other strikers there, I know I can score goals in this division, I've done it before.
"I think Derby's style of play will suit me better. They like to pass the ball and get it into feet.
"Now I just want to start playing and scoring goals."
John has scored on his debut at all his previous clubs and says he feels at home at Derby having played with Michael Johnson and Jeff Kenna at Birmingham City.
The 28-year-old hit seven goals in 15 League games to help Birmingham win promotion through the play-offs in 2001-02.
Like John, Peter Whittingham is relishing a new challenge.
The 21-year-old left-sided player - he can play midfield or left-back - is also here for three months and is a little surprised he has been frozen out at Aston Villa.
He started Villa's first three Premiership games of the season before being dropped.
"I know there are good quality players in front of me at Villa and it was time to get out and hopefully play some first-team football," said Whittingham.
"I'd like to think I still have a future at Villa but you never know what will happen. I'm here to help Derby and that's what I am fully focused on."
The England Under-21 international has played 52 Premier League games for Villa and had a loan spell at Burnley last season.
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Stern can still be a Sky Blues hit
By Andy Turner (Coventry Evening Telegraph)
Micky Adams insists the door is still open for Stern John to make a return to the Ricoh Arena.
The Trinidad and Tobago international completed a three month loan deal to Derby County today, with a view to a permanent move, but the Sky Blues boss has not ruled out the club's highest paid player pulling on a City shirt again.
"I have never had a problem with Stern," said Adams who insists the move is more to do with finances than anything else.
"In fact, I think people were saying that was the best they had seen him play at the end of last season. But going away on international duty and losing his place, and let's not kid ourselves, he is one of the highest paid play-ers at the club.
"He initially joins on a loan deal until December 17 with a view to a permanent move but I don't know if that would involve a fee."
But what if John suddenly sparks into form or City are short of strikers come Christmas.
"The door is not closed on Stern John as far as I am concerned," he said.
And Adams is not convinced that just because he is significantly lightening the club's wage bill that the money will be made available to bring in fresh faces.
"The finances at the club are tight and will remain so regardless of Stern's move, so it will not dictate whether I can bring new players in," he said.
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Derby is a better club at the moment, Stern John better do good and stay right their....
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stern is the highest paid player in the club and playing like that hmmm fella you etter hit form quick and stop making excuses..............
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"Stern .....is strong, has a good touch, can play with his back to goal, hold the ball up and turn defenders.
It is interesting to note that the style of ball requested of Stern from his club is different from what the average Soca Warrior fan expect from him.
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ngozi is wah....????u own breddrin bruddah !
How about ah positive reinforcement . Ah find most ah de forumites does give we boy too much pressah....geh de man ah break for once nah.
U tink de man eh trying ? He is probably his worse critic so he doh need alyuh to reinforce what he already know. All de man who talking cyar do no flickin better cause u know what..........u would ah be deh too playing in a club somewey an on de Warriors squad .
How much better ah man go get when u keep carrying him down. He win nuff matches fuh we and make we look descent when we team looking shitty . He has represented us exceptionally for de last 10 or so years. Is expected dat he will have an off period sometime in his career .
Like lara say when he was on top in 1994, ''now I am playing well and scoring runs hope everyone will still be with me when the run drought comes around, cause dat is when I'll need your support the most ''(remember stern John ?).
Words are powerful and can bring u up and down . Baron say in he song, ''words is hope and words is life, words can make u feel like ah king, words can make u do anything ''. But like everything else we take de positive and make ah negative
Man does never build u up but dey quick to pull down .
Stern is we own and no matter how bad he playing we should be giving him motivation and encouragement cause he feeling wus dan any ah alyuh in de stands or television. You tink when he put on ah tnt shirt he goiing to shit dong de place fuh we........????. NO !!! Shit happens... ;D
We might feel he should be on the bench or off de team so be it.......but doh be calling de man ah setah unneccessary names nah. Everytime Stern name call certain men gehin he bad mind right through and seem to be saying de same ting everytime.....
As touches say dong with de waggonist dem. Cause when he start putting bal in de net again real men will be singing his praises and want to be riding in de front seat too.....dais why de man real dus he shoulder against guatemala is all dem bad vibes he was trowin off he .
Down with de negative .
Down with de waggonists !
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Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).[/size]
Imagine you were at your workplace. Perhaps you have a data entry position, only you are having a bad day. You misplaced some files, your boss is furious and you and everyone else involved in the project must stay back until it is finished...and it is Friday evening.
It is not a nice thought.
But imagine if those co-workers spent the evening cursing and screaming at you. And they brought along about 500 friends to your cubicle to constantly remind you of your errors.
Imagine what it must be like to be Stern John.
The 29-year-old striker endured a year to forget. Effectively forced out of the England Premier League club, Birmingham City, chastised by subsequent employers, Coventry City, and then jeered at in his new home, Derby County FC, after just four outings.
It gets worse. You are even booed by your own countrymen, by the same fans who saw you score a national record 61 goals in 87 outings-only ten players in the history of the game have scored more and Brazilian legend Ronaldo (56 goals in 89 games) is not one of them.
John tries to blank out the negativity but he admitted to feeling hurt by the crowd response in recent times-and particularly at home.
"I never went through that in my career before," said John. "I tell myself that some of the fans are doing it because they don't know better and some do it because they want to get a reaction from you to get you to play better. But it is something I won't forget for as long as I live.
"To tell you the truth, you are one of the players who will always go back and represent your country and give your all and you just can't believe the reaction you get from your own fans.
"I mean, here in England when we are going back to play for Trinidad, your teammates and your manager laugh at you and say you have no chance of going to the World Cup. So you come back and you are thinking that you really want to do well to show them and then the (T&T) supporters react like that.
"But I think some people just don't have a clue and the rest of them so accustomed to me scoring goals that they see me going through a lean patch and they just don't know how to take it."
John is not one for mincing words. On the field, his style has always been more stand and deliver than tricky subtlety.
But does he accept that part of the blame lies with his own performances?
John countered that every striker goes through a lean period and he does not miss chances on purpose. He insisted he will not lose faith in his ability to score goals and his record supports the claim that his malaise is down to bad form and not because he is a bad player.
If he wheels away to celebrate another strike against Panama or Mexico in Trinidad and Tobago's upcoming qualifiers, he would have pulled level with former star striker Steve David as the country's most prolific marksman of all time in World Cup qualifying competition.
David scored his 16 goals in just two World Cup qualifying campaigns when there were few pushovers like the Dominican Republic to tally up on-John scored five times against them.
It took John three campaigns to pull within touching distance of David. But, before anyone scoffs, it should be noted that Dwight Yorke, the country's most celebrated player, and his enigmatic teammate Russell Latapy managed six and eight goals, respectively, from five qualifying series.
Unsurprisingly, John was critical of the way Trinidad and Tobago recognise their heroes. He mentioned former standout player and coach, Everald "Gally" Cummings, who urgently needs money to fund a knee operation, while he believes that David and former mentor Alvin Corneal do not get the respect they deserve.
He invited David to meet him before Trinidad and Tobago tackle Mexico in their final qualifier at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on October 12.
"If I score and we get to the World Cup that would be perfect," he said. "I never saw (David) play but to score that amount of goals and I understand he was a legend in his time. I would love to meet him some time and talk.
"That is one thing about Trinidad, we tend to forget our heroes People like him and Gally and Corneal put us on the map."
The big question, though, is has John gone past his slump?
He gave as definite a 'yes' as is possible-football is a game, after all, and open to certain vagaries.
John suggested that his double in last month's 3-2 win at home to Guatemala signalled his return to form. Perhaps more than anyone else, John is quite grateful for Latapy's presence in the national squad.
"His coming back took a lot of pressure off me," said John. "He can score as well as win games for you and countries know that. The first goal I scored against Guatemala came because Russell drew defenders and I just pulled myself out of the play and let him do his thing and waited for the ball.
"He takes the pressure off me a lot because now they can't look after me alone or Dwight."
But John is also hoping for a return of the positive passion that inspired Trinidad and Tobago to within touching distance of the 1990 World Cup.
He was 13 years old and seated under the national stadium's giant clock when T&T lost 1-0 to the USA on November 19, 1989.
"Being so young, I didn't understand the magnitude of losing and what getting to the World Cup meant," he said. "I think I cried more because I saw everyone else crying and all the emotion At the time, my dream was to play in a match like that at the stadium.
"Hopefully, this is our time. Hopefully, we would be heroes and they won't forget about us."
John's emotional ties with the Port of Spain stadium are perhaps reflected in his scoring chart. From his 15 qualifying goals, only two-at Honduras in 2001 and the Dominican Republic in 2004-came outside Trinidad.
He is hoping for a third away goal in Panama on Saturday but is most interested in Trinidad and Tobago qualifying, whether or not he scores.
He pleaded with fans to support the team and revealed the depth of emotion that flooded their dressing room following their 2-0 win at home to Panama.
After the final whistle, he sat with Yorke in the dressing room and gushed about the flag waving and cheering from the stands. He insisted that it helped the stuttering team recover their belief.
It is time for a final encore from the fans.
"If we are going to the World Cup, we're going as a nation not as a team," he said. "We need to put the negative things aside because the guys really working hard I remember when (West Indies cricket star Brian) Lara broke the record, he said that he hopes everybody supports him in bad times, too, because there will be bad times.
"But the fellas sticking together and working hard because whether the public support us or not, we know we have a job to do."
John hopes to play his part. He insisted that he was just as frustrated as the fans with his form, but promised to do everything possible to help T&T qualify.
He admitted that his drought might have adversely affected their World Cup dream.
"I know I have scored so many goals for Trinidad," he said, "but if I could take them back and score them now instead, I would, because it is such an important time for the team.
"I went through a goal-scoring drought when the team could really do with my goals. It is the first time I ever really went through a drought and it is not something I did on purpose.
"This is the World Cup, this is what you dream about and you are representing 1.5 million but what can you do? As a striker, you must go through a drought at least once in your career.
"But I believe my fitness is back now and my confidence."
He hopes to help fire Trinidad and Tobago to Germany. Some support would be nice.
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Stern John if yuh read this message, all I have to say is, while you was in the MLS and the early part of your English career with Nothingham Forest you was my hero and that was in the time when they had top strikers like Owen, Henry, Ronaldo and Clivert etc.... in my books in them time (Yorke apart), you was number one, I felt you was de best striker I have ever seen, you use to shoot from any where on the field, take on defenders, fall back in midfield and tackle and was full of confidence...
I am not saying I am found of you now because I feel you still have it in you but you play little lazy, but I understand that strikers go through a phase, but come on man, if you are not scoring then you need to up your work rate and help in other areas. Brimingham, Conventry and now Derby is seeing this, not juist T&T...
When we played Guatemala and you scored 2 goals you made me very proud and I thank you for that, but when you cuss the fans you show alot of disrespect, the same disrespect you didn't like from the fans is the same you where showing to them, so 2 wrongs dont make a right.
On the given day ANY player puts on a T&T shirt I will support 100%, whether I like them or not, you cannot blame fans for reacting, no one will support a player if he is constantly playing below par apart from his goal scoring droubt other areas you needed to work on....
I also understand a striker like you who needs service to score should not be played as a target striker up front alone, so in your defence, I understand why its hard for you to score goals.
This is a public apology to you Stern John, now go out there and do what you do best, keep your head up as you have been doing.... and go out there and bring back the Stern-Turn, beating a defender, shooting from a distance and buss some goals in Panama and Mexico asses like you did in the MLS...
Good Luck to you and the entire T&T team...
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...well said...
We fans might seem a fickle bunch but even though yuh does get pong, (an is not only you) everybody was secretly and not so secretly jumping for joy when you scored twice against Guatemala. I wa s there. We took it as a sign of things to come. We support the team, and everybody in the red, white and black. The team is under pressure.
Its only because we've seen better from you. Prove us woefully wrong.
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Sam, sometimes yuh is ah real mad man..but den dat is all ah we here.
I like how yuh answer de man and yuh is ah man who does say yuh wrong when yuh wrong.
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WEEEEEEEEY! Sam yuh tryin tuh out do yuhself wit dis post sah! or yuh going down for the game next week and looking for ah free ticket or yuh want Stern tuh give yuh he white jersey dat hard tuh come by.....but outside all dah chupid talk ah givin yuh...yuh come real good dey boss...ah public apology...takes ah big man
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I agree with yuh dey Sam about he work ethic, I know men does go through they drought but when you only stand up on top and not put a little pressure on the defenders then what yuh expect from people. If you having trouble scoring goals then do the next best thing and fight for a ball with a defender and set up somebody else to score. Besides that though ah feel yuh going to score in Panama.
Warriors forever ;D
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Nice post brother!! nice to see my fellow "sternmen" coming out!!
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I would like to personally meet with Stern and apologize to him for all the pong I have given him.
In fact I'm going to contact his agent and see if I could set up a meeting with him for Saturday night starting at 9pm EST. I should only need around 90 minutes of his time to get my points across.
So Stern if you reading this, please accept my invitation and come have a seat with me and hear me out
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Well yes Arrow ;D ;D
Allyuh forget Sam is a man looking TTFF wuk now as Licoln have he eyes on him. :D
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I would like to personally meet with Stern and apologize to him for all the pong I have given him.
In fact I'm going to contact his agent and see if I could set up a meeting with him for Saturday night starting at 9pm EST. I should only need around 90 minutes of his time to get my points accross.
So Stern if you reading this, please accept my invitation and come have a seat with me and hear me out
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lardddddddddddd so early and this is my nominee for post of de month
proud member of stern for goals commitee
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Arrow is a real arse!!!
even Stern have to laugh when/if he read that one.
Stern come back FigTree for a lil bit, aiming at them cones again go help you out for sure!!
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Arrow you is a real hater yes, you did not fool me, you trying to meet with Stern from 9pm EST on Saturday for 90 mins means that he will have to NOT play for T&T in that game at all but sit out and talk to you!! hahahha good try. Nah lewwe hope he score a goal in the FIRST half so if is anything, he can always come off in the second and give meh boy Jonesy a play and when he comes off THEN you can meet with him. So if all goes well Stern go score and then you may have a lil 25 or more minutes to meet with him before the 90 minute period is up. :rotfl:
Hah ahha.
Jason.
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so messages to stern go here eh - stern, after the last match in mexico, yuh let me take a picture with you even though the team was dejected after just having lost and the rest of the team was like "nah... time to go sleep'. I am now a lifelong stern john fan. I hope you take a lil time and touch a few more fans at home and in Derby. drop by drop the bucket go full soon. Also doh forget the world is round....and only 2 people know what in your heart. Stern , I have more than full confidence that you is the man to lead trinidad however far we go - stay strong and make that 2nd round world cup!!!
ps Arrow, that was real funny I hatta admit
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Well yes Arrow ;D ;D
Allyuh forget Sam is a man looking TTFF wuk now as Licoln have he eyes on him. :D
Yuh know, ah never really look at iit like dat!! lololololololololol
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Stern.. lady warrior here! And you should know who this is because you gave me the name!
Well said and I will go down supporting you all the way on Saturday AND next week in the National Stadium. Fans need to see things from the players side too! If a player is having a slump that's when he needs your support more than ever! wWare all trinis and if our team wins we win too!
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Ah see like stern was reading meh post :D.......he use de lara scene to reiterate he point.
De man right 100%, Trini does fuhget quick.
We want to see ' Bountoscore' again. Only one man hada name.
Stern mehboy big up yuhself cause we dey wit yuh.
Pong Panama !!! Pong Panama!!! Pong Panama !!!
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can someone post a clip?
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Stern John's goal v Panama for anyone who wants it. its a short clip
http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TDPW8QYGZVYE1Y5TSCJUPVZRB
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nice shot
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nice goal by stern but also big props to kenwyne jones for the fighting spirit showed, he fall down and still fight to get the ball to stern.
big up jones
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Yes Futbol... nice thanks
That was a nice build up to de goal too
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Waay, that was some great finishing. The build up looked sweet also.
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saw the hilites on GOL TV last night. They recapped all games played. From what dey show we had plenty shots....some were on target others were waaaaaaaay orf....seems like we were givin the Panamanians tooooooo much space at times....in one clip it showed the 'Manians in our 3rd....man take de ball an run past our players and leggo.....We cyah have DAT kinda jokey defending on Wednesday....
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Anyone notice the pass from Latas to KJ?
One touch
Perfect weight
Laser straight
Pure class.
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Pretty cool goal by Stern... Nice fight from Jones and great ball from the Magician!
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Sweet goal dey thanks.....
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what a goal. Hope you have more of that come wednesday against mexico
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What allyuh watch this on, my media player not reading it. I have to download some codec
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mines not playin it either. u not alone :beermug:
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if you have gol tv put it on right now because they going to show it in like 15 mins
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What allyuh watch this on, my media player not reading it. I have to download some codec
try real player, it will download the codec if it doesn't have it already.
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ok figured it out. BOSS GOAL STERN!
You have to download a codec called Divx. play
http://www.divx.com/divx/codec.php
Once it's downloaded to the hard drive and installed REAL or WINDOWS MEDIA would find it and launch the video
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Doh take nothing away from Stern nah that goal was wicked
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great goal for real...
Stern real impress dey.. to think he wasn;t even in an offside position :) A nice run on to ball and a wicked shot.
I wish i see the celebration for that goal..
Kerwyne crash into small man but recovered nicely too...
One thing about most of T&T goals so far in this tournament, they have been of a high quality. :drool:
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One thing about most of T&T goals so far in this tournament, they have been of a high quality. :drool:
Like Stern turn into Mark Hughes.
They always used to describe him as "a scorer of great goals but not a great goalscorer"
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ok figured it out. BOSS GOAL STERN!
You have to download a codec called Divx. play
http://www.divx.com/divx/codec.php
Once it's downloaded to the hard drive and installed REAL or WINDOWS MEDIA would find it and launch the video
DAN THANKS FUH DE CODEX U IZ AH TRUE WARRIOR FUH HELPING WE OUT THEY AND THANKS FUH DE GAOL TOO FUTBOL
VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
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great goal for real...
Stern real impress dey.. to think he wasn;t even in an offside position
He wasn't offside because Kenwyne was too fast for him and the only reason he catch up was because the man fall down and see him coming up 2 mins later ;D
I just joking though, it was a great finish from Bound to score
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great goal for real...
Stern real impress dey.. to think he wasn;t even in an offside position
He wasn't offside because Kenwyne was too fast for him and the only reason he catch up was because the man fall down and see him coming up 2 mins later ;D
I just joking though, it was a great finish from Bound to score
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Dat is ah wicked goal .....BOOOOOOOOOOOMM !
Futbol, greysky thanks man for the link and download. :thumbsup:
We really have ah good ting in dis forum fuh true ppl. Everybody giving ah lil contribution and making dis journey ah truely wonderful experience for all ahwe. This site is a blessing .
Ah sending ah big up to flex. tallman all de warriors and dem out dey who making this site what it is .
Peace .
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Anyone notice the pass from Latas to KJ?
One touch
Perfect weight
Laser straight
Pure class.
It look like Stern started the move too if I am not mistaken
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the bandwith has been exceeded, you think you can post it again?
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click on the link and then save to your hard drive
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Nice build up ...and wicked shot. Those are the kinda goals Stern know how to score ....... not sitters like the one he throw away in the end .. :beermug:
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GREAT GOAL AH SEE IT BOUT 10 TIME LAS NIGHT ALONE ON VARIOUS STATIONS AN FROM EVERY ANGLE IT LOOK GOOD
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEEE
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Great goal Stern.
Allya he realise he score with his left foot too, Just like he did against Hondurus in the last campain after Mickey Trotman's death.
Maybe this is a sign. R.I.P. Mickey.
Go Stern looking forward to more on wednesday.
Go Soca Warriors
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can someone re upload it for me it exceed the download number
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can someone re upload it for me it exceed the download number
here is the upload
http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ASY8ZBVXP5720HE01IW1LYOTU
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it not working now!!!!
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ah downloaded but it's not playing one ass.
Oh well, at least I saw it on tv.
Peace,
VB
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Allyuh I jus check some records, stern is officially 9th on the all time number of goals scored internationally.
Of active players now, he is the second most lethal player, with a probability of scoring a goal 72% of the time he takes the field.
Ali Daei (iran) is the leading forward with 74% chance, and also the highest total goals of 106.
That is real goals anyhow u look at it.
Stern is a national treasure, check them names and records:
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/century.html#goals
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Angus Eve on dat list too 34 goals and 118 caps. A true servant of our country.
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Actually he is tied for de no. 8 spot and dat strike rate is simply outstanding. Yuh damn right he is ah national treasure!
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Angus Eve on dat list too 34 goals and 118 caps. A true servant of our country.
Props to Stern, but u see men like Angus Eve, they have done yeomans service to TnT; scoring crucial goals at crucial times and he tends to be underated!!
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The man who topping the list Ali Daei look at who he scoring against. That is why I does wonder about the validity of these lists. You grouping a man like Ali Daei who playing games against Syria and Oman against the likes of Ronaldo and Pele. He must be on top.
Big up Stern still though.
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like allyuh forget iz bound-to-score allyuh talking about
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im nut suprised dat stern is almost on top its just wat ive come to expect
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I read that list i ent see no USA players.....whey Landon? Whey Eric Wanalda? Them fellas seriously ignorant qui.......
Imagine...a commentator say he was talking with Stern and Stern said he might consider coming back to the MLS to play in a couple of years........Wanalda jump up and say Stern need sto be wanted first....Implying that Stern John is not good enough to play MLS...... >:(
I want them in we group bad bad....
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Total record
Matches Won Draw Lost For Against Points Percentage
89 44 11 34 157 - 118 99 55.62
that aint to hot
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Stern is ah boss!
Truetrini President of VICE ..of Stern for Goals Committee
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Stern is a boss I will give him that. But one has to consider the opposition. Man like Ali Daeli / Stern and most of the others it simply is not the same. Imagine if Ronaldo, Romario, Pele Muller and dem play St Kitts, Netherland Antilles and Barbados. Leh we give Stern he props but doh go over board.
Good Job Stern all the same
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yeah pele would score about ah million on st kitts ent...... stupes face it you could only score on your opponent and pele had his and stern had his also
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Stern is ah boss!
He scored on very good opponents!
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yeah pele would score about ah million on st kitts ent...... stupes face it you could only score on your opponent and pele had his and stern had his also
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Dat is the most tata I ever read. So man in Intercol have a better goal scoring record than Yorke in the Premier, so he better???
Several people does argue that players have good records in one league eg. EPL but would not score with the same rate and consistency in Italy.
No one would argue with that yet, when it is a Trini involved the argument turn around. All yuh eh easy nah
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killer yuh could only judge ah man from what he actually did and not based on what if's. just because men doin good in one league dont mean he go be able to cope with another league.we spoke about this a few weeks ago when men was saying that they cannot play with spanish men and so on.
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killer yuh could only judge ah man from what he actually did and not based on what if's. just because men doin good in one league dont mean he go be able to cope with another league.we spoke about this a few weeks ago when men was saying that they cannot play with spanish men and so on.
Look we talking International football here. Players face different opposition but no one can deny that some opposition is way below a certain standard. It have man scoring seven goals against Soloman islands (as an example), we have to be realistic in assessment of the individual. That is all I am saying. I eh fighting down Stern achievements.
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ok, GOOD! he up dey with de rest.....Right now the most important goal for him to score is against dem Bahrainians.
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killer yuh could only judge ah man from what he actually did and not based on what if's. just because men doin good in one league dont mean he go be able to cope with another league.we spoke about this a few weeks ago when men was saying that they cannot play with spanish men and so on.
Morvant yuh being real biased.
Yuh cannot lump Ali Daei, Stern John and Pele in the same list and expect the list to be a credible one.
If yuh jes using it to see how much goals a man score is one thing but if yuh using it to judge how good a goal scorer someone is it eh good.
If yuh place all the strikers on an even keel and put some in the Asian Group some in COMNEBOL and some in CONCACAF it eh go be equal yuh cannot compare them. The groups not equal in strength.
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If y'all ever study statistics, you would know that it would not wise to judge the best striker in the world just by his scoring records......stats don't tell a full story.
However, the top scorers list is not trying to judge who the best striker is, it's just listing the individuals who have been most prolific in scoring for their respective countries...so regardless of who they played against, and who better than who..........we have to give them their props, because they have obviously been very valuable to their nat'l teams......and have put in credit-worthy service.
Stern eh better than Ronaldo...we know that.......and the top scorers list is not implying that either.... so lewwe just give respect where respect is due.
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Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!
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If y'all ever study statistics, you would know that it would not wise to judge the best striker in the world just by his scoring records......stats don't tell a full story.
However, the top scorers list is not trying to judge who the best striker is, it's just listing the individuals who have been most prolific in scoring for their respective countries...so regardless of who they played against, and who better than who..........we have to give them their props, because they have obviously been very valuable to their nat'l teams......and have put in credit-worthy service.
Stern eh better than Ronaldo...we know that.......and the top scorers list is not implying that either.... so lewwe just give respect where respect is due.
that is all I was saying.
Do not use that list as no yardstick to measure anybody by.
Stern good but it have plenty better players than him on the list. So when yuh reading the list jes look at how much goals he have and not compare him to anytbody else on the list.
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all i'm saying is does anyone think that if pele and them fellers was under BSC and getting ah set ah stupid long ball right tru and we have to remember these guys had a unit to compliment them.
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Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!
If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing
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all i'm saying is does anyone think that if pele and them fellers was under BSC and getting ah set ah stupid long ball right tru and we have to remember these guys had a unit to compliment them.
so leh we flip that scenario now
If the Brasil starting line up did read Carlos Alberto, Jairzinho, Tostão, Gérson Rivelino, John etc etc
Stern John name would a be first on the goal scoring list??
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call me an asshole but i think yes :beermug:
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call me an asshole but i think yes :beermug:
that is what yuh does call blind allegiance.
big up Stern John same way
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well at least we could agree on that :beermug:
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Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!
If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing
That is not exactly true either because there are many factors influencing where players play.
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Big Up Stern John! ;D
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Big Up Stern John! ;D
INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S WE HORSE AND WE RIDING HIM TO DE PROMISE LAND!!!!!!!!!!!
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Question ....Question....so when Yorke score all them goal for MAnU.....that was because he so good our the team real good.....? Answer this question and then think about what Stern has accomplished
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is that a question if man u was a good team.....................
after yorke left he was'nt gettin beckham crosses again so the goals wer'nt comming as it was b4.
not saying that he aint ah menace but fact is fact.
look at our team now stern scoring two ah game because men feeding him well but the same man goin home to he club and cyar make
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Morvant letting he patriotism blind he better judgement
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guilty as charged. after the 18th i'll go back to my regular self.
i will need two days to cool down ;D
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Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!
If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing
That is not exactly true either because there are many factors influencing where players play.
Indeed but the better players in the World playing for the better teams in the World.
Who is Marc Lloyd Williams?
Ara Hakobian?
Andrei krolov?
Who? Exactly. All golden Boot winners for the top scorers in Europe over the last 3 years. the fact remain that they playing in Wales, Armenia and Estonia. So they win the award but none play for the better teams in the World. They all scoring goals for fun in their respective leagues. None actually good enough for the top teams. Stern was in the EPL & First division and if he was good enough he would have definately been bought by a big team or even a minnow in the EPL, Portugal, Spain, Germany ----------
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Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!
If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing
That is not exactly true either because there are many factors influencing where players play.
Indeed but the better players in the World playing for the better teams in the World.
Who is Marc Lloyd Williams?
Ara Hakobian?
Andrei krolov?
Who? Exactly. All golden Boot winners for the top scorers in Europe over the last 3 years. the fact remain that they playing in Wales, Armenia and Estonia. So they win the award but none play for the better teams in the World. They all scoring goals for fun in their respective leagues. None actually good enough for the top teams. Stern was in the EPL & First division and if he was good enough he would have definately been bought by a big team or even a minnow in the EPL, Portugal, Spain, Germany ----------
Stern John is world class. If you were to examin his game, whether he's playing in the MLS, EPL or for T&T, he is a goal scorer. He is very efficient with the ball, no unnecessary and extra moves, just deadly finishes. Stern's time in the EPL has been marked by injuries and a goal scoring slump(that many top goal scorers experience from time to time). I firmly believe that he can play on a few Premiership clubs.
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Stern John ranked with the top concacaf scorers and with 2 games in hand he could very well be tops.
N./C. American and Caribbean Zone. (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/stats/player.html?zone=ncc)
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Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.
TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!
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Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.
TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!
Boss who arguning against that?? Stern doing he business and we will support him. But I agree with what many are saying.
By the way Pointman does World Class not mean being able to play for any team in the World. That is a strong statement boss.
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Stern John is a world class...tell me who scoring goals regular for Birmingham City under Steve Bruce? NOBODY ! Tell me who score goals regular for Forest under David Platt? NOBODY !
Tha's not Stern fault if the team not playing a style that aimed toward scoring goals.
I not commenting on Coventry and Derby because the Stern over the period September 2004 to September 2005 was not the same Stern John who is Trinidad's leading goal scorer. Only in the game against Mexico he look like the man we know and love...even the double against the Guats wasn't d 'real' Stern.
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Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.
TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!
Boss who arguning against that?? Stern doing he business and we will support him. But I agree with what many are saying.
By the way Pointman does World Class not mean being able to play for any team in the World. That is a strong statement boss.
Stern mekin any team dred .
World class .
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Stern John is a world class...tell me who scoring goals regular for Birmingham City under Steve Bruce? NOBODY ! Tell me who score goals regular for Forest under David Platt? NOBODY !
Tha's not Stern fault if the team not playing a style that aimed toward scoring goals.
I not commenting on Coventry and Derby because the Stern over the period September 2004 to September 2005 was not the same Stern John who is Trinidad's leading goal scorer. Only in the game against Mexico he look like the man we know and love...even the double against the Guats wasn't d 'real' Stern.
So what you saying Phillips and Forssell is world class players too then.
Phillips top score for he club and the EPL once. Forssell before an almost career ending injury scored 19 goals in 34 games for Birmingham on his debut. He is World Class too then.
Allyuh need to get a better handle on what World Class actually means in terms of World Football.
As I Said Stern is we player so I support him all the way
But World Class players don't play for Derby, Forrest, Birmingham
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But World Class players don't play for Derby, Forrest, Birmingham
let Stern John only do shit come the 12th in that Stadium, yuh go hear them.
Boy Stern John is real shit boy.
He eh go be world class then.
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But World Class players don't play for Derby, Forrest, Birmingham
let Stern John only do shit come the 12th in that Stadium, yuh go hear them.
Boy Stern John is real shit boy.
He eh go be world class then.
;Dhahaha not long ago they was calling for he to get drop. Is only after Panama & Mexico man start to mention Stern in a positive light.
Then again we talking about Trini remember the board when he miss the penalty hahahah
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Plain and simple...STERN JOHN IS A BOSS
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Stern 'bound to score' John...I want to see the Stern Turn in the World Cup...Go T&T
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Stern 'bound to score' John...I want to see the Stern Turn in the World Cup...Go T&T
More like de "Stern 3-Point Turn" now
Doh dig no horrors... big up Stern!! ;D
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i love this site!! lol
Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol
Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.
ah love it!! lol
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Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.
TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!
Boss who arguning against that?? Stern doing he business and we will support him. But I agree with what many are saying.
By the way Pointman does World Class not mean being able to play for any team in the World. That is a strong statement boss.
Observer, I still stand by my opinion of Stern's game. I probably would not put Stern in the same class as a Ronaldo or Ronaldinho or Henry and a short list of others, but as I said before there are other factors that determine which teams players play for. Brazilians(for legit reasons) get more looks by big clubs than others and Trinis are far down on the "look list" but because of men like Dwight and Latas and Shaka we are starting to really peek the interest of some of the bigger named clubs in the world.
To me Stern John is every bit as deadly as Dwight was in his prime and I'm willing to bet that if Stern had the same kind of service as Dwight had from Becks he'd be just as successful. Dwight played on the best team in the world and in the best league in the world(ah doh care wha none ah allyuh say) and accomplish something no other Trini or West Indian fr that matter, ever had before or since... winning the treble. I don't see why the same thing could not have happened to Stern on a similar team. That's my two cents. Stern is meh horse,slump or no slump(buh lehwe doh goat mouth him)
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Stern has one advantage. His shot is like a rocket, but many times inaccurate. He also needs to stay on side. He has record offsides. More than I have ever seen in a single game. He needs much more to his game in order to be a world class player. He is now on a club team that keeps him on the bench and most of the time even off the list of players for their games. You r right he is no Ronadinio, or Ronaldo or Henry. He is the simple Stern John.
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Question ....Question....so when Yorke score all them goal for MAnU.....that was because he so good our the team real good.....? Answer this question and then think about what Stern has accomplished
Both. Is a combination of the two.
Is not like Yorke was doing nothing, and the rest of Man Utd used to stop the ball on the line and let him kick it in.
Without his movement off the ball, his opportunism, his heading ability, his understanding of the game etc etc etc. he would have never done what he did. if you cant lose your marker and finish clinically, service not doing nuttin for you.
Also - The better the player the less he will need to rely on perfect "service". eg. if a man have real speed he might reach a pull stones pass. or if a striker can take on defenders on the run (like an Henry) he wont need perfect crosses swung into the box to get goals...
all i'm saying is does anyone think that if pele and them fellers was under BSC and getting ah set ah stupid long ball right tru and we have to remember these guys had a unit to compliment them.
i understand what you saying but if stern was being man marked by nesta, terry, stam etc. would he have as many goals?
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i love this site!! lol
Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol
Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.
ah love it!! lol
i was never one a dem people but u know ur selves an d stern bandwagon hav nufff rooom for all
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Why do you say that. I really saw some of his games. Maybe for T&T he is great but as for world class football he does not rank anything there.
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Who in Bahrain playing for a good European club? Does anybody outside of Bahrain know the Bahraini players? You on dis :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Our players are young and have a great future ahead of them. Their average age is 26. Your guys are mostly older and had better oppotunities. A few of our players were approached by European teams (the best being Manchester City) 4 years ago, but some FIFA regulation regarding the team ranking (114 at that time) blocked those deals from going thru. But now we do have worthy players that would interest international clubs. When Bahrain reaches the World Cup you will see some deals going thru.
Hope that that answers your concern :beermug:
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All them footballers from asia is shithong.
Only a very few make it to the top leagues in Europe.
If any do make it, it will be most likely Man U or Chelsea, cause to have a chinese or any asian player on the team = 1 billion more football jerseys will sell.
As for Bahrain, them fellas too weak to play in europe.
All the clips I see of asian football, and Bahrain clips, it look like exhibition football.
One hard jam from Air Dog, and a blade from Avery on the left will welcome them to big man football.
The cream of Baharin crop plays in leagues where there are many big names, but these big names are averaging 40 years old. Even I could hit batty-goal Batistuta a spanner and embarass him soon.
You say your players young, average age of 26, Ha, what a joke!
U call that young? I will never want u setting me up with a girl from your country if i looking for a young thing.
That is almost the average of out team as well.
The fact that half of your team plays outside and half is domestic says that Bahrain is in trouble.
If your league was any good, all the players would be there.
If it is poor as I suspect, ALL of your team would be playing outside. Maybe half of the team not good enough to get a foreign contract?
We have about 18 players playing outside of T&T between MLS, England, Scotland, Australia, Japan J League Division 1...all way more advanced that that shit Kuwait league.
We have players who have played in the Champions League Final.
We have players playing in the Champions league since 1995.
We have players playing/played for the top 5 teams in Europe (Rangers, Porto and Man Utd), and a host of other premier league teams.
U talk about crowd, Dwight Yorke has gone to Barcelona, Germany, Juventus and Inter Milan and singlehandedly destroyed those defenses.
Our goalkeeper Shaka Hislop saves agasint the likes of Thierry Henry, Robert Pires, Alan Shearer, paul Scholes etc etc.
Stern John has scored on may separate occasions against teams like the US, Mexico, Jamaica, even a hattrick vs Colombia.
Has Baharin ever scored 3 goals in a game? I think Stern John has more total goals than Bahrain over the last 5-7 years.
The only future your team has is to watch the World Cup in Germany and cheer for T&T, your inevitable conquerors.
You will be introduced to "SHOCK AND AWE" come Nov 12 in Trinidad.
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All them footballers from asia is shithong.
Only a very few make it to the top leagues in Europe.
If any do make it, it will be most likely Man U or Chelsea, cause to have a chinese or any asian player on the team = 1 billion more football jerseys will sell.
As for Bahrain, them fellas too weak to play in europe.
All the clips I see of asian football, and Bahrain clips, it look like exhibition football.
One hard jam from Air Dog, and a blade from Avery on the left will welcome them to big man football.
The cream of Baharin crop plays in leagues where there are many big names, but these big names are averaging 40 years old. Even I could hit batty-goal Batistuta a spanner and embarass him soon.
You say your players young, average age of 26, Ha, what a joke!
U call that young? I will never want u setting me up with a girl from your country if i looking for a young thing.
That is almost the average of out team as well.
The fact that half of your team plays outside and half is domestic says that Bahrain is in trouble.
If your league was any good, all the players would be there.
If it is poor as I suspect, ALL of your team would be playing outside. Maybe half of the team not good enough to get a foreign contract?
We have about 18 players playing outside of T&T between MLS, England, Scotland, Australia, Japan J League Division 1...all way more advanced that that shit Kuwait league.
We have players who have played in the Champions League Final.
We have players playing in the Champions league since 1995.
We have players playing/played for the top 5 teams in Europe (Rangers, Porto and Man Utd), and a host of other premier league teams.
U talk about crowd, Dwight Yorke has gone to Barcelona, Germany, Juventus and Inter Milan and singlehandedly destroyed those defenses.
Our goalkeeper Shaka Hislop saves agasint the likes of Thierry Henry, Robert Pires, Alan Shearer, paul Scholes etc etc.
Stern John has scored on may separate occasions against teams like the US, Mexico, Jamaica, even a hattrick vs Colombia.
Has Baharin ever scored 3 goals in a game? I think Stern John has more total goals than Bahrain over the last 5-7 years.
The only future your team has is to watch the World Cup in Germany and cheer for T&T, your inevitable conquerors.
You will be introduced to "SHOCK AND AWE" come Nov 12 in Trinidad.
Good points and agree with a lot of what you say but I have to go now. I will elaborate later. :beermug:
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i love this site!! lol
Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol
Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.
ah love it!! lol
Boy I reading this and I was feeling as if I were in the twilight zone. What happen to all the Men that cuss Stern when he cuss us.
I given credit where credit is due. Thanks for the goals Stern but I not jumping on no band wagon.
Just think how great you would be if u just stop complaining and work a little harder. Notice; you haven't been complaining since Latapy came back and u scoring goals. Latas wouldn't be around forever. Lets see how greatness would rise then.
I'm just saying in this thread the man have faults and I am not being a hypocrite and jumping on the wagon.
Besides the more u cuss him the more goals he score. ;) RIGHT:D
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Stern is good soldier, we need to be proud of him . Trinis we have to weigh the good against the bad and take what comes out on top and right now stern have we looking damn good!
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Besides the more u cuss him the more goals he score. ;) RIGHT:D
Thnks Angel :),you open my eyes
I'm always thinking my wife mad & vex, I know now she really loves me
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i love this site!! lol
Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol
Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.
ah love it!! lol
I wasn't one ah dem men dogging Stern
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Besides the more u cuss him the more goals he score. ;) RIGHT:D
Thnks Angel :),you open my eyes
I'm always thinking my wife mad & vex, I know now she really loves me
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Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
By: Keith Clement (Guardian).[/size]
Germany 2006 The final thrust.
Striker Stern John turned from villain to hero on October 12, when he scored two goals to lead T&T to a 2-1 victory over Mexico in the team’s final Concacaf World Cup qualifying match at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo.
John, who missed a penalty in the 31st minute, redeemed himself in the 42nd minute when he tap in a shot, after the ball rebounded off the upright, following a low and powerful right-footed shot from midfielder Aurtis Whitley, to close the first half 1-1.
The goal was John’s 17th. It made him the country’s leading scorer in World Cup qualifying football.
In his efforts to erase his missed penalty from the minds of local football fans and to keep his critics quiet, he added another goal that gave T&T a 2-1 lead and victory, when he capitalised on a loose ball from outside the penalty area and blasted a left-footer high into the back of the net in the 61st minute. T&T now go into a two-match play-off with Bahrain on Saturday at home to be followed by an away fixture next Wednesday.
During the World Cup 2006 campaign, nine players scored their first World Cup goals for the Warriors. They are Hector Sam, Jerren Nixon, Cornell Glen, Errol McFarlane Jr, Jason Scotland, Densill Theobald and Scott Sealy. McFarlane scored three times.
John, however, accumulated his goals over the 1998, 2002 and current 2006 campaigns. For the 2006 journey, T&T played 17 matches and John scored in eight of them.
He scored doubles against Mexico, Guatemala and St Kitts and Nevis.
He has followed in the path of another great national striker, Steve David, who held the honour for 48 years with 16 goals, following his exploits in the 1974 and 1978 campaigns.
Before John broke into the goal-scoring title race, midfielder Angus Eve started the 2006 World Cup campaign with nine goals, but limited play after the preliminary round saw him gave way to John.
David, who was a member of T&T’s 1974 and 1978 World Cup squads, opened his goal scoring account with a hat-trick when the twin-island Republic hammered Antigua and Barbuda 11-1 in their first qualifying game at King George V Park on November 10, 1972.
The scorer of T&T’s first World Cup goal, however, was Jeff Gellineau who scored in the very first minute of play against Suriname, who lost 4-1.
It was Gellineau’s only World Cup goal.
David, who was said to be very skilful and blessed with kicking power, went on to score against Antigua and Barbuda in the return match, which T&T won 2-1. He then scored the only goal that defeated Suriname on November 30, as T&T played unbeaten in the group.
In the final qualifying round involving Haiti, Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and the Netherlands Antilles, David netted a 61st minute item but T&T went down 1-2 to Honduras. He then scored the lone item for his country against Haiti but, again, it was another 1-2 loss.
He scored five goals in the next two matches–one against Mexico who T&T defeated 4-0 and became the first T&T player to attain a beaver-trick scoring all four goals when T&T routed the Netherlands Antilles.
It was Haiti, however, who went to Germany to represent the region with eight points, while T&T finished second on six and Mexico third, also on six points.
David played again in the 1978 qualifiers and scored three more times to climax his career.
Eve was a member of the 1991 World Youth Cup squad that went to Portugal and he made his senior debut also in 1991.
It was not until 1994 World Cup, though, that he made his debut in a campaign that ended in August 1992 when Jamaica defeated T&T and then drew 1-1 in Port-of-Spain.
Eve, a former Defence Force midfielder, scored his first World Cup goal in the 1998 qualifiers when T&T beat the Dominican Republic 4-1 in June 1996. National skipper Russell Latapy scored twice, one being an own-goal.
In the returned match, he scored two in a 8-0 victory.
The former ECM Motown and Defence Force player holds the distinction as being the top goal scorer in the 1995 Shell Cup tournament which T&T won. Eve who held the reigns as national captain in the absence of Dwight Yorke and Russell Latapy, struck the back of the net six times.
The Carenage-born player who helped Defence Force to the 1995 Semi Professional Football League title with 14 goals, scored six times in the 12 qualifying matches in T&T’s attempt to book a place in Japan/Korea 2002.
T&T’s leading World Cup goal scorers
18 - Stern John
16 - Steve David
11 - Angus Eve
8 - Russell Latapy
6 - Dwight Yorke
5 - Marvin Faustin, Noel Llewellyn, Arnold Dwarika
4 - Marvin Andrews, Hutson Charles
3 - Jerren Nixon, Errol McFarlane Jr, Everald Cummings, Leonson Lewis, Nigel Pierre
2 - Andy Aleong, Leroy Spann, Ray Roberts, Philbert Jones, Kerry Jamerson, Anthony Rougier
1 - Carlos Edwards, Dennis Lawrence, Jason Scotland, Densill Theobald, Scott Sealy, Cornell Glen, Hector Sam, Jeff Gellineau, Alvin Corneal, Bobby Sookram, Leo Brewster, Warren Archibald, Anthony Douglas, Leon Carpette, Selris Figaro, Adrian Fonrose, Anton Corneal, Brian Haynes, Nevick Denoon.
About the Warriors
How broad is your knowledge base on the facts of T&T’s football history? G-Sports Arena is very happy to help you rekindle some lost history.
• T&T’s first World Cup match was Sunday, February 7, 1965 vs Suriname in Port-of-Spain. T&T won 4-1.
• T&T’s 11 World Cup captains—Sedley Joseph, Tyronne de la Bastide, Selwyn Murren, Selris Figaro, Leroy Spann, Michael Maurice, Clayton Morris, Dexter Francis, Russell Latapy, Angus Eve and Dwight Yorke (current).
• Stern John has so far scored the most World Cup goals for T&T (18).
• T&T youngest player was Dwight Yorke at age 17 years, 11 months and 19 days on Sunday October 30, 1988, vs Honduras at Queen’s Park Oval.
• T&T’s widest margin of victory in a World Cup match is 11-1 versus Antigua and Barbuda on November 10, 1972. The widest victory margin ever recorded, however, was 12-0 in a friendly vs Venezuela, in 1971, at Queen’s Park Oval.
• Steve David was the first player to score a World Cup hat-trick. He scored on November 10, 1972 against Antigua.
• Steve David was the first player to score a beaver-trick (vs Netherlands Antilles, December 17, 1973 and Marvin Faustin was the second (vs Guyana, April 17, 1988).
• Two players who became World Cup coaches—Alvin Corneal (played in 1966 qualifiers; coached in 1986 qualifiers) and Everald Cummings (played 1970, 1974 qualifiers; coached in 1990 qualifiers).
• Jeff Gellineau scored T&T’s fastest World Cup goal, first minute in February, 1965 (vs Suriname).
• Alvin Corneal (Feb 1965) and Anton Corneal (May 1988) are the only father and son to score for T&T in a World Cup qualifier.
Stern John's Caribbean dream
By: FIFAworldcup.com.[/size]
It could almost be a quiz question designed to confuse any football fan: 'Which player, currently playing his club football in England, but not in the Premiership, has scored more international goals than Ronaldo, Gabriel Batistuta, Bobby Charlton and Jurgen Klinsmann?'
The answer can be found at Derby County Football Club and their striker Stern John, currently on loan from Coventry City. The 31-year old has scored 64 goals in 89 matches for Trinidad and Tobago and is just 13 goals away from equalling the legendary Pele's tally. But now the charismatic John has Bahrain and a FIFA World Cup™ appearance in his sights – and fans in Port of Spain will be praying he adds to his goals' total against the Asian hopefuls.
FIFAworldcup.com: Your scoring record for T&T is phenomenal – when you made your international debut nearly ten years ago did you think you’d score this many goals?
Stern John: No, but I wanted to! As a striker you love scoring goals, you want to score goals and I believed in my own ability. But I didn't think that I would score this amount. To be honest, I haven't really paid attention to the number of goals I have scored, until I was coming up to the record. But I didn't know how close I was to Pele's total until this interview. That's awesome! That's something that every player would like to do, but feel that they couldn't because Pele is such a legend.
How does it feel to be T&T's record goalscorer?
A goalscoring record is something that no one can take away from you. It's something that I am proud of, it's something that my family and friends are proud of and the joy that I feel right now will be increased providing we qualify for the World Cup. Being Trinidad and Tobago's record goalscorer is an honour, a great honour and it is something that I will cherish throughout my career and for the rest of my life.
It must be great to play in a side that create so many chances for you?
It is. We are a great team when we go forward because we have a lot of skilful players and players who do well whenever they have the ball at their feet. They make it easy for me to put the ball in the back of the net. Sometimes, I feel a little bit harsh on the other players: I get all the glory for scoring, but the guys who I'm playing with are doing most of the hard work for me.
How crucial has the return of Russell Lapaty been for T&T?
He and his return have been very, very important for us. We were struggling to create chances before he came into the team and that put a lot of pressure on myself to make the most of the opportunities I found myself in. Russell can not only create chances, but he can score goals as well, so it is no surprise that the team have been doing better since he has come back.
What's it like playing with Dwight Yorke?
He is a top man. He is one of the best players that I have played with or played against. I think he is still one of the best finishers in the world. He is a great professional who works really hard and he always goes about his job properly. It's great to play alongside him, we have a good understanding and I would like to think that our partnership works well for the team.
How did you feel when you missed the penalty against Mexico in the final qualifier?
Thanks for reminding me! No one would have wanted to be in my boots after that miss. My boots didn't even want to be my boots after that. I felt awful. But I had to put it to the back of my mind quickly and get over it. When you take a penalty you either score or miss. Sounds simple, doesn't it, but the emotions you feel are really powerful. On this occasion, the keeper made a good save and I just had to dig myself out of the hole I wanted to put myself in. To come back and score two goals after the penalty miss and win the game shows the character that we have in this side.
Are you confident going into the play-offs with Bahrain?
Yes we are confident. We don't know much about Bahrain, we are just focusing on ourselves. We don't want to take Bahrain too lightly. It's a massive game for both countries but there is no question of us underestimating them. We do think we are a better team than they are – but now we have to go out there and prove it.
Would you say you were favourites?
I think the general footballing world would consider us as favourites, but in a play-off situation, anything can happen. It's just two games, it's about who wants it more. Now we have to stay focused, forget about all the distractions and the feelings of excitement about playing at a World Cup – we just have to get there by beating Bahrain.
Would you have preferred to play the second leg at home?
Yes, I would have done. In truth, you always want to play the second leg at home, despite what other players and coaches may say. The first game is very important. It sets the tone for the second match. Personally I would have loved to qualify in Trinidad. It is something that we have been trying to do for decades; we came so close in 1989 – we only needed a point and we lost the game against the USA, so that's left a bitter taste in the mouth. However, I suppose that the most important thing is not where we qualify, but qualification itself.
What difference has coach Leo Beenhakker made to the team?
Leo has made a massive difference. He and his staff came in and set their stall out by telling us what they wanted to achieve and how they were going to do it. The players understand him; he understands the players and I think he has done brilliantly. He has been a great influence for me. When I was going through a bit of a drought, he kept his faith in me when the fans didn't and that is something that I will never forget. His appointment has been great for the team and for the country.
Do you think you would have been in this position without him?
I don't think so. When he came in he made a lot of changes and I think we needed that. A lot of the players were too comfortable under the old regime, but now different players have been brought in and we are trying different things. He has tested us and brought the best out of us.
And finally, just how far are T&T away from challenging the United States, Mexico and Costa Rica in the CONCACAF region?
I can see us challenging them and perhaps overtaking them. We have players who are working in the world's top leagues – players just as good as the Costa Rica, Mexico and the USA. What we have to do now is stick together as a team, work hard and keep our discipline. That is the most important thing, especially on the pitch. The USA don't really have a star player – they are just a very good team. We have to copy their example. But if we qualify for the World Cup, things are only going to get better for us.
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De amount of times my pores raised during this interview is not funny!
that is an interview out of the top drawer and i loved every minute of it!!
Well done stern, well done!!
ah love it bad!!
Ps: flex, ah feel yuh have tuh control how u release these articles, cause i ent feel that my heart could take so much at one time.....lol
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Excellent interview....
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Very inspiring read!!!!!! 'by any means necessary'
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Big up to Stern. All we players seem to give very interviews!
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I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..
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i CYAH TAKE IT, Saturday cannot get here fast enough, I CAN ALMOST TASTE THAT WIN
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Well he score both winners with his left foot against MEX and PAN so Trotman must be loving it....
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Big up Stern
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Stern is a top class striker and he is only a few goals away from the legendary pele. I could imagine his name in the same sentence with pele. All tnt have to do is beat bahrain and make the world cup. Stern you is boss go score some goals on Bahrain..... Beat Bahrain BAD...
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I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..
Imagine a big sports writer for the Guardian saying Stern score a header, he probably didn't even watch the game. He also call de man "Otis Whittley". Clement must be a pure bred waggonist.
The blasted ball was bouncing along the ground after it rebound off the post from Whitley shot. De only man who coulda score a header from dat situation is Cyd Gray!
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I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..
Imagine a big sports writer for the Guardian saying Stern score a header, he probably didn't even watch the game. He also call de man "Otis Whittley". Clement must be a pure bred waggonist.
The blasted ball was bouncing along the ground after it rebound off the post from Whitley shot. De only man who coulda score a header from dat situation is Cyd Gray!
Dat cyd gray shit have yuh panties in ah knot boy! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Next time we meet we wearing Cyd Gray shirst saying For good head call Cyd Gray!
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I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..
Imagine a big sports writer for the Guardian saying Stern score a header, he probably didn't even watch the game. He also call de man "Otis Whittley". Clement must be a pure bred waggonist.
The blasted ball was bouncing along the ground after it rebound off the post from Whitley shot. De only man who coulda score a header from dat situation is Cyd Gray!
Thanks for clearing dat up boss.. I know de man score wid he foot but dat writer ketch mi dey boss.. I start looking for de replay of de goals again to see I was correct.. Yow sum of dem writers is peer waggonist but mi sey If yu gonna be a waggonist cum correct nuh boss.....
warmonga..
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well done Stern. Time to deliver in the biggest games of your life now
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like allyuh aint know iz stern we talking about here
VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
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Stern go make Steve Bruce regret letting him leave Birmingham City
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Well done Stern.
Bahrain dead
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i CYAH TAKE IT, Saturday cannot get here fast enough, I CAN ALMOST TASTE THAT WIN
Boy!! ah cyar even sleep dese las few days here. Ah ready like Freddy!!!
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Pointman....to be sure I eh miss the game, I take off friday too!
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Boy ... ah hope all yuh still support the man after he throw away more sitters ... class is class and form is temporary ... ah hope he in form on sat and wed. In my humble opinion he is not up to world class striker category yet ... i ent care what the stats say ... there are lies, more lies and statistics.
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i think after reading this interview STERN go put tears in the whole a bahrain on saturday
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big up 2 stern this man is d greatest footballer dat ever lived no offence to odder people
but stern ur goals hav brought us this far and will carry us further
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Beautiful interview.... the man has spoken like a general.
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Stern is the man.Big Up to Him. 2 Goals in each Leg
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Stern Is D BES he go score bout 3 an make we proud... BIG UP!!!
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where all the Stern John for goals committee men
I find all yuh quiet this rounds
all the men who feel Stern John cyah do no wrong and quick to quote stats
I never see a man who does play with no urgency so. All the man fit to do is stand up and lay off the ball. I sware if Stern have a hot shit he go shit he self. The man doh have no sort of hussle in him at all.
I was more than surprised when he score that last goal against Mexico I thought he changed he ways but I was wrong.
If yuh eh put the ball on he foot infront the goal forget it.
And of course the midfield was closed down quickly so no goals for Stern.
Presidet for the Stern on the bench committee.
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I hear the frustrations about Stern........but in all seriousness, he is our prime marksman. plain and simple.........
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disgruntled boy
oh ye of little faith
have faith my friend stern will not dissapoint
VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
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I eh have time to get meh blood pressure high from Stern at this moment, some things for SURE though: Yorke MUST START up front with Stern or Jones, (hopefully if Jones come on it is SOONER meh boy always getting a flicking corbeaux sweat but still created a chance when he came on, he is pure class). If Stern still eh working sub him with Jones one time, or even start Jones, and put on John later or something. My reasoning is that because Jones did not play as much for T&T this year, he is known less, even the same with Glenn, We all know that Jones real hot on it, and even Glenn if he gets to run at the ball, but Bahrain does not know that as much, hence Jones was able to turn his marker and get more room than John when he came on. I was a little worried about Avery though, whey he gave me constant heart attacks especially in the first half when we got most of our throws on the left flank and Avery almost always got confused and gave it away. Hopefully he will have a better game.
I still think that Birchall had an excellent game despite what he, himself said. I also think that Yorke played better up front in the second half than back in the first. Whitley was unlucky to not get any shots on goal but I know in the first half especially he was sizing up some.
All in all is all about attack attack and MORE attack!! Dog and Lawrence defended reasonably well and Spann and Carlos need to make the switch more often, but once our team is not jet lagged and does not concede any early goal, I think we CAN WIN, it is all about attack. Remember in the Guatemala game how we played in the 2nd half and scored 3 goals, we must play like that, change formation to 4-4-2 now with Yorke up and ATTACK at full force!!
Jason.
I love you Warriors!! ;D
We not giving up!
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according to ah famous man right now
Stern John cyah score in ah hoe house with ah pocket full ah money and he gyal next to him
right now in the 11th hour we eh need to post up man up front we need men who running at them tall shitrain defenders
Scotland and Jones come on and run at en and that is what we need
all Stern doing is posting up and laying off the ball
the man like he cyah self make ah run off the ball
PRESIDENT FOR THE STERN JOHN ON THE BENCH COMMITTE
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I can't believe dis talk start back again. Common guys we've been through this before. Keep your heads up. Everything will be kool.
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Stern is Trying to hustle but you have to remember he alone up front he cannot chase from side to side That will be too much running.
Stern doing good hold tight
we need him to save enery for the offense part.
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Stern is Trying to hustle but you have to remember he alone up front he cannot chase from side to side That will be too much running.
Stern doing good hold tight
we need him to save enery for the offense part.
trying to hustle
when you see the man hustle horse?
boy he is ah tourist to hustle
horse when yuh playing at this level yuh suppose to play every game like is the last
not save energy
if yuh eh shoot yuh eh go score dread and getting the ball and laying it off is not going to score
he need to run at men and move with ah sense of urgency
but I know all yuh
I go post some shit from www.rsssf.com and make the man look like ah genius
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honestly i am a jones fan . but allyuh take allyuh time with stern plz ah was calling 4 him to get bench b4 the mexico game but since ah putting me faith in him .if by 60 mins he ent doing anything bring on d hungry youth
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Alyuh de man go rise to de occasion on Wednesday!!! Stay positive fellas. We Not Giving Up!!!!!
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lets stick with what we have been doing dont change ne thing .... but i do agree that kenwyne jones should get more playing time... he is a very confident stiker and he is not afraid to take on defenders and as someone said earlier the bahrain team and coaching staff knows little to nothing about jones so we should try him around the 70th min or so if nothing goin for us up front
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I done say these words already, and I go say them again - however far Tand T go, is because Stern John take we there. easiest prediction in the world - 2goals by stern john come wednesday.
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y is it that everytime stern doesnt score a goal in a game, people here callin 4 his head????????????? its really annoying and frustrating that everytme come to this site people talk d same shit over and over again. Everyoine knows d man starting, everbody know how d man does play d same way wheather he score or not`, so please give it a f***in rest. D whole team had a bad game and that is that
GO WARRIORS
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Panama 1-0 he score
Guatemala 3-2 he score 2 to win it
Mexico - he score 2 to win it
When Stern bad he bad when he good he good, alll dem games when we needed a win he was der for we so I think he go take a bush bath and wake himself up and give we at least 1 goal
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De man go be dey when it matters most .
Disgruntled you is ah ungrateful bastard . De man bring we dis this far an that is all you have to say . Cowen and alyuh gihde man ah clout fuh meh nah .
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honestly i am a jones fan . but allyuh take allyuh time with stern plz ah was calling 4 him to get bench b4 the mexico game but since ah putting me faith in him .if by 60 mins he ent doing anything bring on d hungry youth
das why if u was coaching against guatemala we would have lost ;)
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De man go be dey when it matters most .
Disgruntled you is ah ungrateful bastard . De man bring we dis this far an that is all you have to say . Cowen and alyuh gihde man ah clout fuh meh nah .
i echo those sentiments. the man talking about stern as if he never score ah goal in he life. This is de man who scored winners in 3 of the last 4 games before this one!! (guatemala, panama and mexico).
Disgruntled Trini, u is ah f*cking arsehole! Men like u should get ban from football.
U are a real heavy spirit and ah f*cking jumbie! U pull down rather than elevate, and i am sorry for u in this life. anyways, God bless!
ah ent love dat!!
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Listen I backin Stern and he go come thru but I have to say that I know we playing with Stern up front by heself but that though mean that when we going down the flank with Edwards and he putting in crosses that Stern have to be by heself other people could join him up they by the time the crosses comin too yuh know. The more people that is in the box when the crosses come in the better chance of somebody getting on the end of it.
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Why we even worring bout Stern? if he does shit jones go come on but Stern is a natural finisher he will score or at least keep me on him for someone else to score
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boy all yuh could make excuses for this man boy
doh worry he go put tears in all yuh eye
beware of blind patriotism Andre and that is what you have
but yuh go learn
it have real men here who does echo the same setiments but they fraid to speak up but not me
the man is ah ranking shitsnake
all yuh could sink in that Stern John boat not me
MAN OVERBOARD
MAN OVERf**kINGBOARD
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boy all yuh could make excuses for this man boy
doh worry he go put tears in all yuh eye
beware of blind patriotism Andre and that is what you have
but yuh go learn
it have real men here who does echo the same setiments but they fraid to speak up but not me
the man is ah ranking shitsnake
all yuh could sink in that Stern John boat not me
MAN OVERBOARD
MAN OVERf**kINGBOARD
Mih boy... I dont think men here have any kinda BLIND patriotism. Iz just that NOW is not the time for Any kinda ANTI stern Comments..
Fact is he has a very good International record, He Scored WINNERS for us on many occasions, etc etc..
AFTER the IMPORTANT match, we can bash who we want up till 2 months before World CUP.. But ress this talk till after.
WE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. STERN is integral to de team.. BASHING STERN now is like BASHING the ENtire team.. That will not Do right about now .. So AFTER we WIN on Wednesday, we can resume our VERY critical analysis of Players....
Yuh Unders ?
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I agree allyuh hadda support right now plz plz mr disgruntled trini doh let ur true trini behaviour come out now nah lets back the team and then after that u could start to do ur in today out tomorrow kinda thing...yes ur entitled to ur opinion but right now we really tryin to keep a positive vibe on the board spread good vibes ok
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I am not the biggest supporter of Stern.... however that ain't the kinda vibes i want to be getting from nobody. The man has proven that he can score goals by his record and what he did the last few games for us.
Simply bahrain came out with a plan to shot down Stern, latas and Yorke. It work. Beenie pick up on that and make the necessary subs .....but that shit not gonna happen again. Stern will come out shooting with both guns.
Allyuh men starting to sound like Waggonist ..ready to jump off the ship. Is only rat does jump off ship first.
:beermug:
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I am not the biggest supporter of Stern.... however that ain't the kinda vibes i want to be getting from nobody. The man has proven that he can score goals by his record and what he did the last few games for us.
Simply bahrain came out with a plan to shot down Stern, latas and Yorke. It work. Beenie pick up on that and make the necessary subs .....but that shit not gonna happen again. Stern will come out shooting with both guns.
Allyuh men starting to sound like Waggonist ..ready to jump off the ship. Is only rat does jump off ship first.
:beermug:
horse I never like Stern
not now is long time
I eh no waggonist when it come to that
I is ah man does give jack he jacket and jim his boots
when he score the second one against Mexico I say well yes
first time he impress meh I say he change he notorious ways but I see he revert to them on Sat
all yuh might find ah overly harsh eh but from Thursday to now I give meh all to the warriors and in return them could ah give me they all and they didnt especially Stern horse the man playing lazy like is ah friendly he playing
I f**king bitter dread
I looking fierce on the outside but inside I crying like a lil hen
THE TIME IS NOW WARRIORS
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I am not the biggest supporter of Stern.... however that ain't the kinda vibes i want to be getting from nobody. The man has proven that he can score goals by his record and what he did the last few games for us.
Simply bahrain came out with a plan to shot down Stern, latas and Yorke. It work. Beenie pick up on that and make the necessary subs .....but that shit not gonna happen again. Stern will come out shooting with both guns.
Allyuh men starting to sound like Waggonist ..ready to jump off the ship. Is only rat does jump off ship first.
:beermug:
horse I never like Stern
not now is long time
I eh no waggonist when it come to that
I is ah man does give jack he jacket and jim his boots
when he score the second one against Mexico I say well yes
first time he impress meh I say he change he notorious ways but I see he revert to them on Sat
all yuh might find ah overly harsh eh but from Thursday to now I give meh all to the warriors and in return them could ah give me they all and they didnt especially Stern horse the man playing lazy like is ah friendly he playing
I f**king bitter dread
I looking fierce on the outside but inside I crying like a lil hen
THE TIME IS NOW WARRIORS
Please man.. You are a good brother and i would hate to cuss you out... Be resolved in your FAITH IN THE TEAM.. No bashing of ANY players right now.. Keep that shit inside.. Please... Ah asking Nicely. !
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I say live and die with stern,he does frustrate meh sometimes but so do many other international strikers all over the world when playing for there respective countries,he's not singular in that respect.Listen you have to take the good with the bad,and hope he has a better game on wednesday or maybe another player shows up and make history,with that said win or lose on wednesday I'm proud to be trini and proud of the warriors this has not been easy for them.
God Bless the Warriors and Trinidad & Tobago.
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I eh no big stern supporter but de man starting and has done wah is needed nuff times..Therefore i cant call for head now..I doh see de sense in it..De man is a soca warrior and dat is de side i supporting..whoever on de pitch i backing all de way
Go TnT
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Please man.. You are a good brother and i would hate to cuss you out... Be resolved in your FAITH IN THE TEAM.. No bashing of ANY players right now.. Keep that shit inside.. Please... Ah asking Nicely. !
boy throw yuh cuss on meh yes, I standing meh ground on this one boy even if I alone
back meh corner and shoot from left to right
I is ah man strong in meh resolve
I have nothing but love for the warriors but oh God man Stern
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Stern needs some help against this defensive minded team. One striker may not be the best formation to go up against Bahrain with,plus they have some tall men in the back.
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Please man.. You are a good brother and i would hate to cuss you out... Be resolved in your FAITH IN THE TEAM.. No bashing of ANY players right now.. Keep that shit inside.. Please... Ah asking Nicely. !
boy throw yuh cuss on meh yes, I standing meh ground on this one boy even if I alone
back meh corner and shoot from left to right
I is ah man strong in meh resolve
I have nothing but love for the warriors but oh God man Stern
I know I know I know.. Lots of people Love to hate Stern.. But show de man some affection now nah.. Show de man some love.. Send an E hug.. De man Need US.. The TEAm needs US.. Stern is in the Team... EVERYONE... Send the TEAm an E HUG... common... (I know how it sound) .. But leh we really send all our love for the guys right now ..
HUG the TEAM every one.. COMMON.. You KNOW YOU WANNA.. Common . HUUUG... ;D ;D
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did stern even play yesterday? i didnt notice him!!! >:( >:(
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
warmonga, yuh dere.. Tanslate dat fuh me nah...
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw
Oh gawm.. Jess give de man ah lion paw or what ever and ah hug too nah ... oh f*k man... low de man till after wednesday nah .. i Not to crazy bout stern either.. but shit, low him till after de game.. de man will come up big fuh we... Breds... I guh buy yuh ah two beers.. jess leave de man nuh..
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I was a big critic of Stern in this Hex but he has scored some crucial goals recently and even leo say Stern is de best option...so who is me to argue with leo..if BSc said that then I would argue... ;D
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i will never turn my back on stern john.. NEVER....like allyuh forgetting when certain ppl turn dey back on the country is stern john who score all dem goals for us... goal cup, shell cup,world cup qualifiers,friendly intls... i am a stern john supporter for life i might be new to the board but im def not a waggonist..... any true supporter of tnt football go tell u stern john is not a shit hound ask ne body from the mls..... as a matter of fact ask ne body from birmingham city who bring dem back to the prmier league... the man is having an inconsitent yr but he still comes thru when it matters.
at the end of the day what ever happens stern meh boy i will always support yuh.
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
warmonga, yuh dere.. Tanslate dat fuh me nah...
a nuh warmonga this. Mi name Warlord and mi a di facetiest badbwoy deh bout di place. Big up who fi get big and small up who fi get small up!
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
warmonga, yuh dere.. Tanslate dat fuh me nah...
a nuh warmonga this. Mi name Warlord and mi a di facetiest badbwoy deh bout di place. Big up who fi get big and small up who fi get small up!
Yea I know its not Warmonga.. i was jess asking him to translate.. No scene.. Look ah carib. :beermug: :beermug:
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw
Look how unnuh ungrateful eeee. When Stern John did a score gainst Guatemala, Panama and Mexico....yu nah cuss di man. But now him nuh score inna Trinidad yu wah lick out gainst him. Look like you a waggonist........gallang go support Bahrain then >:(
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Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw
Look how unnuh ungrateful eeee. When Stern John did a score gainst Guatemala, Panama and Mexico....yu nah cuss di man. But now him nuh score inna Trinidad yu wah lick out gainst him. Look like you a waggonist........gallang go support Bahrain then >:(
YEA!!! >:( What he jess said.!!!
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Stern needs some help against this defensive minded team. One striker may not be the best formation to go up against Bahrain with,plus they have some tall men in the back.
TRUE DAT, WE NEED TO STICK TO 2 STRIKERS UP FRONT
We have nothing to loose and no need to hold back cards doh matter again either jones and stern or glenn and stern.
GOALS GOALS GOALS IS WAT WE NEED
3 POINTS clear nothing less, forget aggregrate and penalties
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I knew this would have been a difficult game for Stern, simply because of the ultra defensive nature of the Bahraini game.
In a previous post I had KJ starting up front with Stern, put a serious wildcard in the mix from early and the Bahrain side would fall to pieces.
Who to drop for KJ ?
Either Autis or Carlos might be the obvious choice, difficult decision to make for the coach.
Next match, rest Latas , bring in KJ, 60 mins if we eh score two by then bring on Latas to work his magic (last throw of the dice).
Some men going to say start without Stern, but we need to create confusion in the bahraini defense from early, Stern they will try to triple mark as they did , but boom KJ running at them with speed ?
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come on disgruntled i aint look for yuh dey
all d talk bout anti stern suppose to be jazz
i hav all faith in our striker delivering
it was said ear;ier in the campaign that if we reaching to germany it go be on the goals of stern john i believe dat still
GO WARRIORSSSSSSS
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
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come on disgruntled i aint look for yuh dey
all d talk bout anti stern suppose to be jazz
i hav all faith in our striker delivering
it was said ear;ier in the campaign that if we reaching to germany it go be on the goals of stern john i believe dat still
GO WARRIORSSSSSSS
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
no boy horse
the man does get meh irate
I know all yuh rate the man cause he pull we out time and time again cyah deny that but the man need to do more than jes stand and wait for the ball in the box
the man like Inzaghi inside the box very dangerous outside does and contributes nothing dread
difference is Inzaghi have ah dread midfield to supply him we don't
this is why I see Jones should be there with him or starting infront of him
the man does make meh feel to drink
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WHO SAY STERN WITH A BRACE!!!! I remember Stern since Curepe Junior sec then Eldo and he pull both teams out of trouble many times. I sweat with Stern, defend against him and have respect for him because he could score and as i said first, STERN WITH A BRACE ON Wednesday to sink Bahrain boat.
GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!! GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!!
GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!! GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!!
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We all know is Stern goals brought us dis far. Disgruntled, I honestly know d pain u feeling inside, I have not been productive since Saturday, because I'm feeling it just like u. We jus have tuh hold d faith an be positive for Wednesday.Like some of d other breddas dem say, now is not d time to bash any of d players, they need our love an support at dis time. RESPECT!
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no boy horse
the man does get meh irate
I know all yuh rate the man cause he pull we out time and time again cyah deny that but the man need to do more than jes stand and wait for the ball in the box
the man like Inzaghi inside the box very dangerous outside does and contributes nothing dread
difference is Inzaghi have ah dread midfield to supply him we don't
this is why I see Jones should be there with him or starting infront of him
the man does make meh feel to drink
Horse, in understand that u feeling the anger against stern, but lets support him please.
I am one of the biggest stern lovers (ever since ah get ah stern john #14 birminham city jersey, lol), and in spite of that i went on national TV on ah talk show and say he should get sub. He went and score de winner against panama and de dounble against mexico immediately after dat.
so i know he gets u angry, cause he has done that to me many times, but lets not forget the joy that he has brought to u!!!
ah love it!!
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TAKE A LOOK AT STERNS NEW WEBSITE
www.sternjohn.com :applause:
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Interesting.. Shaun Fuentes Manages the site... Thats what i am seeing to the bottom.... Hmmm Interesting...
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and he put this site as one ah he links
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he link socawarriors.net
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Yea.. Ah wonder if he Meet Disgruntled Trini in real wha guh happen... ;D ;D ;D
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I hear dat disgruntled is de Honorary webmaster ;D
the ironic thing is I use to be a webmaster and still am a graphic artist
they should ah hire me to do the site
is only pics of him walking off chupsing and missing the goal from point blank range
some nice streaming vids of him blasting the ball high and wide
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Yea.. Ah wonder if he Meet Disgruntled Trini in real wha guh happen... ;D ;D ;D
:rotfl:
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Old new. that website up along time !!
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that site up since stern had joined birmingham
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that site up since stern had joined birmingham
It en change up a lil bit.. Looks kinda diff to me.
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Fagan puts friendship aside (http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0300coventrycity/0100news/tm_objectid=16648659&method=full&siteid=50003&headline=fagan-puts-friendship-aside-name_page.html)
By Andy Turner [/color] [/size]
(Jan 31 2006) CRAIG FAGAN has promised there will be no old pals' act against Stern John at the KC Stadium tonight... even though it could cost the Hull City star a free holiday in the Caribbean.
Fagan and John are friends after linking up together at Birmingham City earlier in their careers.
John comes from Trinidad and Tobago and had promised Fagan a free trip to the Caribbean this summer but the holiday is in doubt because John will be representing the Soca Warriors in the World Cup in Germany.
But Fagan knows he will definitely have to get out the holiday brochures and his wallet if he helps The Tigers sink John and his Coventry team-mates.
"Stern is one of my best mates in football," said the forward.
"We've always got on well. He played against us at the KC earlier this season when he was on loan at Derby. He didn't get on the scoresheet and we won 2-1
"I know he's looking forward to the game tonight. This time, he says he's going to score and Coventry are going to win. I just hope he's wrong!
"It might cost me the holiday but with the World Cup, I'm not so sure we'd have gone anyway."
He added: "He's been on the phone giving me a bit of grief but I gave him some back!
"Seriously, he's a quality player and there are a lot of them about in this division."
Fagan is confident Hull have turned the corner after that emphatic 3-0 victory against Stoke City and has called on his team-mates to show the same positive attitude that helped them end a four-match losing run.
"The big difference at Stoke was how we set off and from the first whistle," said the eight-goal forward.
"From the kick off, Stu Elliott raced across to close someone down on the opposite side of the pitch, got a tackle in and that set us on our way.
"We've got to do that tonight. If we can win that first tackle and win that first header we'll get the crowd with us."
Fagan could switch to the right wing with recent buys Jon Parkin from Macclesfield and Darryl Duffy from Falkirk forming a new-look strike pairing with three goals between them in just two games.
Ideally, Fagan would prefer a central role but is full of praise for Parkin and Duffy and is happy to play anywhere as long as City are winning.
"They are pushing for a start and that might mean me playing on the wing. The lads are saying I'm the new Jason Price! I prefer striker but if I'm on the wing I'll get on with it and do my best for the team."
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1-1 so far! Niether as scored.
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"I know he's looking forward to the game tonight. This time, he says he's going to score and Coventry are going to win. I just hope he's wrong!
"It might cost me the holiday but with the World Cup, I'm not so sure we'd have gone anyway."
looks like he may get his holiday after all! Stern on de board 2-1
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stern call it down oui lol
This time, he says he's going to score and Coventry are going to win
well dun stern boi
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stern provin me wrong, i like dat, he need tuh keep playin well, bc he job could b in jeopardy with colin de giant samuels playin well
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John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday.
By Duncan White (The Telegraph).
You have to hope that John Terry and Rio Ferdinand offer more of a challenge to Stern John at the World Cup this summer. The Trinidad and Tobago striker made light work of Wednesday's flaky rearguard to score the goal that set Coventry on their way to victory and leave the visitors looking over their shoulder at the bottom three.
Chris Brunt's thunderous free-kick gave some late hope to Wednesday, after Gary McSheffrey had extended the lead, but Paul Sturrock's side are built on flimsy foundations.
Wednesday's Drissa Diallo epitomized their early ineptitude, seemingly unable to put a foot right. His worst offence was a clear trip on Dele Adebola in the box, only to be spared by Rob Styles.
Wednesday's Lee Bullen did miss a sitter before moving from midfield to defence to cover for the departed Diallo, but Coventry were carrying the threat.
Dennis Wise's shot was palmed onto the bar by Chris Adamson and John twice went close from the edge of the box. The Trinidadian found the net just before the break, squirming the ball in from Wise's cross. Wednesday improved after the break, but Coventry kept sniffing around on the counter.
With 15 minutes left, McSheffrey scampered onto a Wise free-kick to dink the ball past Adamson. The Wednesday defence barely moved.
Match details
Coventry City (4-4-2): Fulop; Heath, Williams, Page, Whing; Morrell (Jorgensen 75), Wise, Doyle, McSheffrey; Adebola, John (Hutchison 85).
Subs: Ince (g), Thornton, Lynch.
Booked: Page, Wise.
Sheffield Wednesday (4-4-2): Adamson; Simek, Coughlan, Diallo (Brunt 39), Gilbert; Bullen, Whelan, Folly (Partridge 74), O'Brien; Corr (Best 55), MacLean.
Subs: Kirby (g), Tudgay.
Booked: Whelan.
Referee: R Styles (Hampshire).
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Excellent Stern this is going to be your year!!!! :applause: :wavetowel:
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big up to stern
i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
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big up to stern
i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
MR President, where were you all de time when stern was faltering ?.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...
I think Snap ellections are in order.. Troy Piloy will run again, this time we will ensure victory.. ;D ;D
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I will run for VP
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de man on fire wa more yuh could say
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big up to stern
i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
MR President, where were you all de time when stern was faltering ?.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...
I think Snap ellections are in order.. Troy Piloy will run again, this time we will ensure victory.. ;D ;D
this smelling suspiciously like waggonist behaviour. Definitely need some fresh elections ....... we lost confidence in the President.
I say we pass a vote of no cconfidence. :devil:
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well done stern....all i can say is..............ah love it!!
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well dun stern
andre chek yuh PM
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That's some really good news that Stern can scrap with these guys and finish.
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Stern John cAP 8TH SPOT WITH THE VOLLEY ON THE FA CUP GOALS OF WEEK
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big up to stern
i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
troy should be vp while shotta stays president.
I do need no top official spot to support stern!
altho i wouldnt mind.
ah votin shotta fuh da.
AAYEEEEEEEIIIII!!! STERN GEHIN LEVEL BIG UP!
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stern john just confirmed a well known fact for me. What? Belief in yourself is better than gold. Lets rewind to the Panama home game every insult that was capable of being uttered was uttered at stern. when he scored that goal against itt was obvious that the insults were hitting their mark. how many footballers playing for the home side runs to the home fans after scoring a goal with his finger placed on his lips a gesture that says shut u mouth. it was his way of telling his critics to hush and at that time he had many. Back in england your club loans you out. the club you have gone to hates u eventually and u get booed fairly often.
fast forwward to his goal spree 4 both country and club now everyone has something good to say bout stern.
He has come full circle back to his scoring exploits if tommorow he hits a scoring rut that wouldnt deter him cause he believes in himself.
he would like the lil tug boat keep saying to himself i know I can. that is something we musteach try to emulate
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If he hit that rot we go bad talk him again and he will get vex and start to fightout of it again. When men was bad talking the man I think it was justified. He was called half slab because he was over weight. I think the qualifiers give stern the zeal to play football. The man come back in form under Beenie. If it wasn't for Beenie confidence in him he woulda still be messing on he self. As freakazoid say the man does play well when he confident or somebody show confidence in him.
Big up to Stern though.
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dat is why he get call half slab?
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big up to stern
i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
MR President, where were you all de time when stern was faltering ?.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...
I think Snap ellections are in order.. Troy Piloy will run again, this time we will ensure victory.. ;D ;D
my dear comrades i was always here representing stern even wen i had an unfortunate incident wit my muda board morvant man wud call an keep me up to date wit sterns activities
i wont run from another election but i would like a rival dat is at least visible on d board
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i just saw that stern is number 8 in the top 10 goals so far in the FA cup stern on the scene again big up to him
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Which goal that was. The goal he score against Middlesborough
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the volly against boro
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Stern John's stance - worth a repost!
BY MosiahX, from reggaeboyz sc
Stern John was on FSC today complaining
The gist of his gripe was that leading up to and during World Cup
qualifiers, the team made efforts to recruit several players out
of England and they flatly turned down the invitation. He himself
approached several players but was also turned down. But now
that the team has qualified for the World Cup the same players
who refused to come aboard during the struggle, are now lining
up to joining the team. John is upset by this and states flatly that
he is not in agreement with these bandwaggoners. He did not
call any names but he said he has seen it happen before in the
Caribbean; an obvious reference to Jamaica and some UB40s.
Can't blame Stern John at all. These kind of things tend to disrupt
team unity and chemistry. Infusing other players at this juncture,
at the expense of those who played their hearts out to qualify
the team can have negative effects. I recall this happening with
both Jamaica and the USA in the 1998 World Cup.
For Jamaica players such as Dean Sewell, Paul Young, Hector
Wright, Tegat Davis, Altimont Butler, Daniel Ricketts, Winston
Griffiths, Steve Green, Pele Wilson, Patrick Beech, Fabian Favis
et al played their parts during qualifications but were ignored
when time came to select the final squad for France. The choice
was to select UB40s in their place.
For The USA John Harkes and others who played stellar roles
during qualifications were dropped for David Regis and some
others who could not even speak English. Needless to say,
neither Jamaica nor the USA did good at France98 as infighting
and lack of team chemistry did them in.
If the Trinidad and Tobago selectors allow the same to happen,
it will be a quick and unceremonious exit for the SocaWarriors
as at least one player, Stern John, has made his displeasure
known. Funny thing is, when Walter Boyd also voiced his
similar opinion during the latter stages of the 98 qualifications
he was lambasted, ostracized, made to grovel and was nearly
left out of the final squad. Will the same happen to Stern John?
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If the Trinidad and Tobago selectors allow the same to happen,
it will be a quick and unceremonious exit for the SocaWarriors
as at least one player, Stern John, has made his displeasure
known. Funny thing is, when Walter Boyd also voiced his
similar opinion during the latter stages of the 98 qualifications
he was lambasted, ostracized, made to grovel and was nearly
left out of the final squad. Will the same happen to Stern John?
I just hope Beenieman makes a note of this as team chemistry is just as important as the quality of the players if not more so!
Hold tight Stern you made a good point, now just start scoring & not missing easy chances when yuh in ah T&T shirt & Beenie will have to pick you & we'll be backing you 100%! Tell the wagonists them to whole tight & help us in our next campaign for 2010! 8)
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Stern, i supporting your views. I think you have some valid points. I guess it will be a collective decision though since Beenie and the TTFF have the final say. We wil see how it goes.
Kingman
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I am sure Stern is not the only player with these views. ;)
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We could watch it from another angle stern might be scared of the competiton ;D
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I agree with Stern 100%. Team chemistry is key. When the team was fighting to stay alive them fools say no, now that we on the run-way they want a place...Hell NO. It eh right.
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We could watch it from another angle stern might be scared of the competiton ;D
He should be.. ;D ;D
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like your views stern, but beenie has always been committed to team chemistry, but you have to admit TNT has some weak points and nothing wrong with looking at players that might fix that, again trust in beenie. Has done well so far, without trust in him TNT in problems as a whole.
BIG UP TNT
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Yeah Stern. If man blank yuh when you made your overtures, but now they running behnd the van, let them smell the exhumes. If a man is to come on board, let him bring true value to the team, or leave the team as is. I said before that if Zamora were to play I would support the team, but would always label him as a wagonist, cause he publicly came out and said that the was not interested in the cause. As if he going and play for England.
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Beenhakker is renowned for his communication skills with his players, so I would think he would be the last coach to ditch the true warriors for the born again trinis. He's already mentioned that he has no intention of dramatically changing the squad and he will make sure to recognise the players that got us there.
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I agree with this post. Waggonest will only weaken the warriors. Maybe not so much now but long term.
For example If Warner get picked in front of Emps, after the World Cup will he still want to play for us?
Next Gold Cup Warner will say he have club commitments. And Emps who has given his all to the team over the years will not want to play anymore because he got over looked for the biggest event of his life. Of course this is just an e.g. but it could happen. A lot of the younger players who are trying to make it on a future T&T team will be discouraged. Why give it my all if when World Cup time comes I lose my spot to a waggonest who has never been to T&T before.
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I might be wrong, but I read in an article that Warner was interested in playing for the warriors well before we qualified, but he wasn't given the chance.
I was more thinking fellas like Zamora who were specifically asked and turned us down before.
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I might be wrong, but I read in an article that Warner was interested in playing for the warriors well before we qualified, but he wasn't given the chance.
Warner was interested since 1999.
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locals all the way, john know wat he is sayin, but it have man who turn down tt and are on de team now, so its subjective, i think locals has always been the answer :beermug:
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His point has been validated by many examples since our qualification,my only concern is, his words may be overshadowed by him becoming consistently inconsistent as it pertains to scoring goals in our friendlies, to be fair to him it's a bit premature at this point. we have at least four more games to be played before the big dance he must silence the critics by scoring goals otherwise they have no choice but to pick these guys.
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stern doe hadda be frighten of no competition cuz he is d boss
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Why should they be on the team??? Men like Zamora only trying to capitialize on how success. I agree 10000% with Stern...
My only fear is if we by chance do not do well, people will be saying... Yuh see we shoula bring in Zamora or Samuel etc.
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big up to man like stern jojhn cuz withou him we wudna be no place
fire for those now comes an waggonist we dont want allyuh around we team
go warriors
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I wonder who are the several players ? my gosh is there is more we dont know about :o
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I MAINTAIN MY STANCE BOBBY ZAMORA SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED ONTO THAT NATIONAL TEAM I HOPE FIFA BAN HIM FROM PLAYING FOR TT HE IS THE EPITOMY OF WHAT A WAGGONIST IS.....IT BURNS ME JUST THINKING OF WHAT A HYPOCRITE HE IS AND HE IS NOT THAT GOOD THAT HE CAN BE SEEN AS A GUARANTEED SAVIOR OTHER MEN SHOW MORE COMMITTMENT AND ENTHUSIASM TOWARDS THE TEAM ...ILL NEVER SUPPORT HIS INCLUSION
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I agree with this post. Waggonest will only weaken the warriors. Maybe not so much now but long term.
For example If Warner get picked in front of Emps, after the World Cup will he still want to play for us?
Next Gold Cup Warner will say he have club commitments. And Emps who has given his all to the team over the years will not want to play anymore because he got over looked for the biggest event of his life. Of course this is just an e.g. but it could happen. A lot of the younger players who are trying to make it on a future T&T team will be discouraged. Why give it my all if when World Cup time comes I lose my spot to a waggonest who has never been to T&T before.
It's long time Warner wanted to play for T&T. I even read that St. Claire even blanked him saying that T&T already had quality keepers at his disposal in Hislop and Ince. The man is no waggonist. You could say that only because he's a Prem keeper T&T gave him chance because they blank him for one reasson or the next when he was at Millwall.
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I agree with this post. Waggonest will only weaken the warriors. Maybe not so much now but long term.
For example If Warner get picked in front of Emps, after the World Cup will he still want to play for us?
Next Gold Cup Warner will say he have club commitments. And Emps who has given his all to the team over the years will not want to play anymore because he got over looked for the biggest event of his life. Of course this is just an e.g. but it could happen. A lot of the younger players who are trying to make it on a future T&T team will be discouraged. Why give it my all if when World Cup time comes I lose my spot to a waggonest who has never been to T&T before.
It's long time Warner wanted to play for T&T. I even read that St. Claire even blanked him saying that T&T already had quality keepers at his disposal in Hislop and Ince. The man is no waggonist. You could say that only because he's a Prem keeper T&T gave him chance because they blank him for one reasson or the next when he was at Millwall.
I apologize for picking on Warner. :beermug:
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In this world is survival of the fittest. I would like to see Stern and them in the WC but if you not performing I will also like to see the best football team on the pitch. Stern is a strange striker. I think he performs best under pressure. Let Beenie and Jack keep on petitioning FIFA.
Ngozi the moderators done talk bout posting in all caps. If you didn't get the memo read the thread http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0
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We could watch it from another angle stern might be scared of the competiton ;D
He should be.. ;D ;D
oconnorg :flamethrower: for you always hating on Stern
stern doe hadda be frighten of no competition cuz he is d boss
well said Small M
Stern will liight the world cup a fire i want you all to quote me here, I said it during the qualifers that Stern goals will be our saving grace and it was.
Stern will score against England and that goal will be the goal that put us into the second round of the World Cup
Troy Piloy said so
Troy 8)
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In this world is survival of the fittest. I would like to see Stern and them in the WC but if you not performing I will also like to see the best football team on the pitch. Stern is a strange striker. I think he performs best under pressure. Let Beenie and Jack keep on petitioning FIFA.
Ngozi the moderators done talk bout posting in all caps. If you didn't get the memo read the thread http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0
forget them petitions and forget Zamora!!!
I going to make a big sign for the WC, i bound to make it on TV, it go look like a BIG PostCard
Dear Zamora,
Having lots of fun in Germany, wish you were here....NOT!!!!
-SocaWarrior Supporter
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In this world is survival of the fittest. I would like to see Stern and them in the WC but if you not performing I will also like to see the best football team on the pitch. Stern is a strange striker. I think he performs best under pressure. Let Beenie and Jack keep on petitioning FIFA.
Ngozi the moderators done talk bout posting in all caps. If you didn't get the memo read the thread http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0
I would prefer for Stern to be replaced by someone who would've represented the team if we qualified. I'm pretty sure it's not only Stern that feels this way, bringing in waggonists could easily spoil the entire team's chemistry. I personally feel we are better off playing with the players we have, if we aren't good enough, so be it.. but it'll be people who really want to represent our country on the field and I'll be proud of my team once they made a genuine effort, win/lose/draw.
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i agree. dem fellars and dem just wanna be seen on the world cup stage to big up demself. we have die hard players, thru they might not really be de best but atlease de team playin as a team and coverin for each other. ;D
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the coach an 'em know what they doing, its good to put pressure on stern he does come thru when he need to no doubt, but the next man to really look at is JONES (off d bench) his speed, strength and height would be a perfect compliment to samuel, on d left and his SSFL teamate edwards on d right (ya could imagine speed on that counter). people doh really talk to much bout him i guess cause he ain't score but this man is a true athlete he leave school playing as a las' stopper that coaches have developed into a striker. i believe he played last stopper fuh TT in the U-17WC. he's still growing as a striker and alot is still to be seen that much i'm certain of.
takin ah ride on d waggon ;)
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locals all the way, john know wat he is sayin, but it have man who turn down tt and are on de team now, so its subjective, i think locals has always been the answer :beermug:
Ok mista man, you tell me which current player or trialist turn down TNT recently and is on the Team now?
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Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?
Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
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Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?
Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
It was first mentioned here http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12323.0
But the whole discussion of waggonists has been done over and over in topics, nothing new.
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i see stern john say dis on the gillette world cup special last nite......nuff man have interesting views about bringing in(or not bringing) new man onto de team at dis stage, but i have the utmost trust in that ugly(Beenie)man who take we from wha? 1 point in 3 games...to the world cup...tha fella go doh what best for de team and he image(legacy).....
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i have been posting similar thoughts in the later path of 2005 that all of a sudden we have these guys coming out of nowhere with there ``Trinidad Parentage`` though they may help us look better on roster does not mean they can help us go any further in the big dance.Thats all bullshit jolld samuel and zamora can kiss my black a$$. And as Angus Eve say let the best players play!
Ricardo
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I have said this same thing before and i still agree with it. If Beenhakker give them piggy back riders a lil friendly sweat just to tie them up with T&T, cool but they must not sweat in front of any true trinis at the cup.
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Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?
Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
It was first mentioned here http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12323.0
But the whole discussion of waggonists has been done over and over in topics, nothing new.
Aite. was away in de middle ah nowhere fuh awhile. buh say wha, de team in de dance an some will play an some will stay. Ah still going an support if the all powerfull spare life.
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it not right for them guys to come out of nowhere and all of a sudden express interest, when they were given de opportunity in de past. didnt beenie say that "it doesnt matter how good you are, if you interfere with de chemistry yuh gone"?
one question off de subject:
did warner play for liverpool? when robbie fowler was de boss.
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it not right for them guys to come out of nowhere and all of a sudden express interest, when they were given de opportunity in de past. didnt beenie say that "it doesnt matter how good you are, if you interfere with de chemistry yuh gone"?
one question off de subject:
did warner play for liverpool? when robbie fowler was de boss.
i think he was a back up kepper then not sure
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I didn't know that Stern had personally approached men to represent we in the hex when things looked bleek. I support Stern John 100%. At this stage with less than 100 days before the WC, I say lehwe juss go with what we have...weak area and all...at least we know these men have T&T at their core.
BIG UP T&T!
FIRE BUN WAGGONISTS!! :flamethrower:
VIBES ITUP!!
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I didn't know that Stern had personally approached men to represent we in the hex when things looked bleek. I support Stern John 100%. At this stage with less than 100 days before the WC, I say lehwe juss go with what we have...weak area and all...at least we know these men have T&T at their core.
BIG UP T&T!
FIRE BUN WAGGONISTS!! :flamethrower:
VIBES ITUP!!
buh you wasnt fighting for zamora and isnt you a stern john critic?
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Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?
Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
I saw the program on FSC. Stern did say that he was not in favor of the Waggonists joining the side now. This no conspiracy. And I agree with Stern. If they so want to play for Trinidad, leh dem sign up now to play for the next Gold Cup, play for the Caribbean Cup and sign up now to help us qualify for the 2010 WC; then we will know thatthey really bleed red white and black. Stern, Shaka, Ince, Carlos Edwards and others, even Sancho show up even when they injured just to represent TT and give support to the team. That is the what Zamora should have done if he wanted to play for TT. He publicly said that he wanted to play for England. That is fine. But don't come now and try to say you want to play in world cp. Steeeeuuuups!
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yeah Storeboy yuh have it right! hull deh motha so and so
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full reel, ah support Stern, was nice watchin de crew on Gilette, wulda be cool if Latas was on dat, wulda be cool....
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Beenie has always voiced his intention to maintain the chemistry of the team and protect those who have worked hard all through the qualifications ,and for this he has won my admiration and that of many others.
I believe his attempt to maintain the chemistry also extends to the omission of Dwarika and Hardest.. just a thought
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I just read through the April FIFA magazine and they have a list of potential stars for the World Cup, apart from the big names.
They had Adebayor(Togo), Podolski (Germany), Messi (Arg), Park Ji-Sung (S. Korea), Julio Dos Santos (Paraguay), Stern John and a couple others.
The small write-up said that scored 12 goals in WCQ, and that he was the most promising player to come out of the MLS and was the best in the Caribbean or someting so. Also how Nottingham Forest bought him for $3.something mil, then he had some injury trouble but is now at Coventry in England's "second-highest league."
I get real excited in de bookstore ;D That was the last copy they had and it was real beat-up, else I woulda buy it.
Ledley King was also named, and they mentioned he is from Antigua and Barbuda. News to me.
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GOING TO THE WORLD CUP WITH STERN JOHN
(Conducted by Shaun Fuentes)
4 May 2006
What do you think are our chances of reaching the second round in the World Cup?
It’s easier said than done. But we have the qualities to do it from the coach right down to the players. We need a good start for sure to set the pace. Sweden is not a walk over team but at the end of the day anything can happen in football.
What are your earliest World Cup memories as a youngster?
Mario Kempes and then Diego Maradona in Mexico in `1986. I remember staying up all hours to look at games. Back then I didn’t know much about the game itself but I always had a dream to be a footballer by wanting to be on the same stage with the teams like England and Argentina. I think we have to play England next month no?
Your world has obviously changed a bit over the years and particularly since we qualified. How do you manage this and all the other attention.
It’s a bit normal for me. It’s more attention for us really in Trinidad because now everyone wants to focus on the team. I am accustomed to it in England because they worship football here But in Trinidad it’s something new and we as players are getting more publicity back home now. It’s something that we may never experience again because of the fact that we qualified for the first time as the smallest country and this is s good for the game back home. I hope we can maintain it and put the proper systems in place for the future.
When you got into the T&T , in many ways you were young. Over the years, you have grown with it. What has helped you settled as a professional human being.
I think I have been able to keep my foot on the ground and I remember where I came from. As a person in my shoes you have to be thankful to a lot o people who were there with you from the early days and keep a level head. As hard as it is to get to the top, its always easier to hit rock bottom. When you are down, no one is there with you. You can’t get carried away. One of the reason for my kids program starting is because I wanted to I give back . Back in my day there were not chances as they are today. I remember playing barefooted sometimes and when you got a boots sometimes it was only for the big matches your team had to play. Sometimes guys even shared boots Apart from that now I’m living a dream and not a lot of people get the chance to do that.
You preferred other profession?
SWAT with a big laugh. I really like anything that excited. Something that’s really exciting. A state trooper chasing bad guys on the roads. I just like that adrenalin rush flow..
Do you think you have been able to stamp yourself as a positive influence in the team?
Maybe some of the senior players will acknowledge mea bit more. It’s always difficult for people in your own age group to do that but it’s something where they are also trying to make progress and they want to make their own name as well. The players know I like to win and I want to go all out to get that win. Sometimes you might have a go at a younger player but they have to understand about the hunger inside. I was also at that stage t one time and I came through it.
What are your aspirations for the World Cup and beyond.
For me as a country, I want us to go as far as we could and that means second rounds. If we don’t at least we can leave with them saying good things about us. We want to show them that we are disciplined as a team and a country to go there and do well and surprise a lot of people . That’s driving me a lot more. At home the people may not understand it as much because they are caught up in the hype but out there they look at us as the smallest team and ass no threat.. This on a whole is really driving me to do big things at the World Cup .
What are your top three T&T moments?
1. Qualifying for the World Cup in Bahrain. 2. The winner against Mexico was great and 3. when I scored the goal against Honduras after Mickey died. I’m getting goose bumps just talking about it now. I dedicated all my goals from the left foot to him and against Mexico it came from the left foot. When we were, playing for nothing in New Orleans we dreamt about this . I’m living his dream and he’s going there with us too.
Most embarrassing moment as a player.
Nothing really.
How do you think you have changed as a player since joining the national team?
I think internationally just the fact you are representing your country is unbelievable. Everyone wants to play for the country and once you have ambitions. It’s just a dream come true. I just wanted to play for Trinidad and Tobago and see them do well and now I think I can a little more settled as a person.
Name two persons, whether relative or not who have been an inspiration to you.
Dwight Yorke from day one. Growing up watching the Strike Squad, and seeing him make it big in England from a third world country. That has been a major inspiration to me. My uncles and my brother Kenwyne John. When I used to come up for Dallas Cup, he used to drive us around, be around at the hotel, he’s much older than I am and he lives in Miami. Always been there for me. I tend to inspire myself because I’ve always wanted to be successful. I know how much hard work it takes to reach there. I want to make full use of a talent and I hope I can encourage others as well whether it be football or any other gift
What’s your favorite dish?
I eat too much lobster (laughs) and anyone who knows me knows that I love chicken… the healthy part – the centre breast
What’s your favourite kind of music to listen to?
I’m a big hip hop fan but I mix up my music, I have my back in time with the rockers. I’m not a big fan of slow tunes but I like my calypso too even though I don’t get the chance to be in Trinidad to enjoy it at Carnival time.
What was the last film or DVD you looked at?
Chaos!
What is a normal day for you in this day and age?
Get up go to training a bit earlier than the start time because I do some extra work on the legs. We start at 10:30 but I go in an hour or so before. Train for two hours and I love to do finishing afterwards. I love the ball. Then I get home or sometimes I go with the players or my strike partner for lunch or for dinner. Last couple of months I’ve been doing my FA coaching badge. As a player and then when you start coaching you tend to appreciate the game a lot more and you learn about it more. One of the biggest things in coaching is getting your points across to players. I have been very happy with it but I don’t think I can be a full time coach.
Do you and if yes, how do you keep in touch with you roots.
I talk to my family in Trinidad all the time and my phone bills are ridiculous. I also have friends out side of school. Those from primary school who live in London and especially Hassan who is a cook and he brings some Trini feelings to my house up here.
Any advice to young and upcoming ones?
Set goals and go after them. Some get it faster and easier but never compare yourself with others. You can idolize others and take pointers, but you have to be yourself. There nothing that can replace hard work. Be truthful to yourself. Be true to the game like Michael said.
Any predictions for the games?
I want to win all the games!
What’s the feeling inside of you now that the World Cup is getting closer and closer?
You start pinching yourself and realize you are really going to the World Cup .Everyone is talking about it now and as the season is finished, you are like ‘ damn, this is it here!”You get this feeling in your belly just talking about it. Maybe some of us haven’t really understand yet what we have really achieved - its something out of this world . You must give the management staff praise and the entire team for this.. There will never be another achievement like this. We are representing all the other teams and players who tried to get there before. Like we say, “We have to go and do we thing now”
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nice interview
Shaun ketch Stern as soon as he reach T&T oui
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Ah have to say.....I have new found respect for Stern hearing him talk like that....a real true patriot...stuck with we through thick and thin
I think our journey as a country is epitomized by his statement: There will never be another achievement like this. We are representing all the other teams and players who tried to get there before.
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On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....
66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)
18 goals in 38 WCQ games
Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
(Have to add 2 goals fuh de matches against Iceland, Peru & Austria trainin match)
When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option. Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T. Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team.
Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute. Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games. Dat better dan Ronaldo.
In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games
De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man. In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes.
Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute? Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!
Disgruntle? Wha yuh say?
By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.
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Ive been preaching this for a while thanks for the link... well layed out... well said... I agree fully... well done Palos :applause:
disgruntle when ah meet yuh ah learned that yuh eh de through and through prick i first thought you would be... yuh kool man... but if yuh jumbie dis and ah know yuh will... it will be rel cuss buddy...
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On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....
65 goals in 91 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm)
18 goals in 38 WCQ games
Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option. Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T. Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team.
Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute. Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games. Dat better dan Ronaldo.
In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games
De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3.4 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man. In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes.
Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute? Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!
Disgruntle? Wha yuh say?
By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.
Palos, you are dead wrong! According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Yorke Yorke has at least 26 goals from 59 games. -- Still LESS THAN HALF of Stern's tally! :rotfl:
I have been saying it over and over again... Stern is the best T&T striker ever and is currently the most prolific international striker to enter this World Cup.
Big Up to Stern John!
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Come to think of it... even Russell Latapy has more goals than Yorke.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=15265
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Come to think of it... even Russell Latapy has more goals than Yorke.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=15265
Yuh really feel is 65 internationals alone Latas have? ;D ;D
But serious....yuh right....IF Wilkopedia correck....dem have Dwight scorin 29 international goals....2 other sites have Latas scorin 28 international goals.
Here is a nex link....LATAPY CAREER GOALS FOR T&T (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/latapy-intlg.html)
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My mistake people, Yorke really only has 15 goals. This is unbelievable to me. So my question is after all that football that Yorke played for those clubs his contributions amount to 15 goals? That is mess... I know some people will get angry with me, but that is not looking very good.
Anyway, Stern for Real Madrid!
Here is the official stats by FIFA just look at the caps and goals for each Trini player.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=TRI
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My mistake people, Yorke really only has 15 goals. This is unbelievable to me. So my question is after all that football that Yorke played for those clubs his contributions amount to 15 goals? That is mess... I know some people will get angry with me, but that is not looking very good.
Anyway, Stern for Real Madrid!
Here is the official stats by FIFA just look at the caps and goals for each Trini player.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=TRI
How FIFA site go say Jack eh have no goals? ;D
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Hmmmm I only correcting myself... the Iranian fella is the #1 Striker to ever enter the World Cup- 109 goals in 145 games.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=IRN
So Stern has about 45 goals before he could take the #1 spot. :'(
He go do it! ;) ;D
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My mistake people, Yorke really only has 15 goals. This is unbelievable to me. So my question is after all that football that Yorke played for those clubs his contributions amount to 15 goals? That is mess... I know some people will get angry with me, but that is not looking very good.
Anyway, Stern for Real Madrid!
Here is the official stats by FIFA just look at the caps and goals for each Trini player.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=TRI
How FIFA site go say Jack eh have no goals? ;D
;D
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On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....
66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)
18 goals in 38 WCQ games
Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
(Have to add 2 goals fuh de matches against Iceland, Peru & Austria trainin match)
When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option. Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T. Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team.
Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute. Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games. Dat better dan Ronaldo.
In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games
De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man. In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes.
Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute? Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!
Disgruntle? Wha yuh say?
By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.
Smartest thing you have ever posted Palos........... :beermug: :beermug:
Stern John is the best........ who d eff allyuh want to start Kenwyn? Kenwyn have what 2 goals for TnT
Be serious nah fellaz!
STERN 14
Form is Temporary...Class is Permanent....Stern has both!
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he is very consistent as a striker...
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66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)
Ah not sure men should be counting the Brazil all stars and the Austria Wien game in there, but I just realise something else.
95 - Wales
96 - Slovenia
98 - Czech Republic
99 - Sweden
100 - England
How you figure he should celebrate his 100th cap :devil:
Sorry just realised why i should have been paying attention in maths class :-[
England will be his 99th cap...
the Paraguay match will be his 100th, he can still score the goals that send us into the second round... ;D
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I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup. I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly. This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication. This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we. That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football. It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us. Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland? Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.
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66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)
Ah not sure men should be counting the Brazil all stars and the Austria Wien game in there, but I just realise something else.
95 - Wales
96 - Slovenia
98 - Czech Republic
99 - Sweden
100 - England
How you figure he should celebrate his 100th cap :devil:
Nice! ;D
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I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup. I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly. This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication. This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we. That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football. It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us. Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland? Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.
Yuh eh have to bring dong Yorke to big up Stern sah. Dwight Yorke experiences in de past is wha make he de man and de player he is today. If dat is what it take to get he to dis point....more power to Dwight.
Remember.....Dwight Yorke never play out and out STRIKER too many times for T&T anyway. Leh we jes give thanks and praises dat we have players like him who represent de red, white & black nah. I did question Dwight recall to de team and subsequent rise to captain but de greatest gift Bertille St Clair gave our twin island state was to ignore the protests and bring back Dwight...and not jes bring he back...but make he captain.
We needed ALL of our players to get where we are...not jes Stern John. Remember dat bro.
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I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup. I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly. This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication. This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we. That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football. It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us. Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland? Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.
Yuh eh have to bring dong Yorke to big up Stern sah. Dwight Yorke experiences in de past is wha make he de man and de player he is today. If dat is what it take to get he to dis point....more power to Dwight.
Remember.....Dwight Yorke never play out and out STRIKER too many times for T&T anyway. Leh we jes give thanks and praises dat we have players like him who represent de red, white & black nah. I did question Dwight recall to de team and subsequent rise to captain but de greatest gift Bertille St Clair gave our twin island state was to ignore the protests and bring back Dwight...and not jes bring he back...but make he captain.
We needed ALL of our players to get where we are...not jes Stern John. Remember dat bro.
Point taken Palos.
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66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)
Ah not sure men should be counting the Brazil all stars and the Austria Wien game in there, but I just realise something else.
95 - Wales
96 - Slovenia
98 - Czech Republic
99 - Sweden
100 - England
How you figure he should celebrate his 100th cap :devil:
Sorry just realised why i should have been paying attention in maths class :-[
England will be his 99th cap...
the Paraguay match will be his 100th, he can still score the goals that send us into the second round... ;D
If you're counting games against clubs like Austria Wein then there is also the St. Pauli game, so your missing 97 would be that and England would still be his 100th.
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Does our game vs Austria Wien count as an International cap? I know Stern played for our national team but I not sure if it counts since we did not play against a national team. Anybody familiar with the rules concerning this?
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Playing against Austria Wein cannot be considered an International cap. Just like how hey not counting the goals today in the England Belarus game because they say it was a "B" team. So ah hear the commentator say
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Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty - has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?
I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..
edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month..
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Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty - has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?
I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..
edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month..
I endorse ths... i always say this and yet men for some reason choose to bash me and waste me down as being "Anti Stern" thats not the case atall..
My points are exactly as you state there man.. cheeers..
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Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty - has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?
I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..
edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month..
Seeing that Stern John made his debut for T&T in 1996, I am pretty sure that in the years prior to 1996 other strikers have played for T&T, including such luminaries as Steve David, Buggy Haynes, Genwyn Cust etc. According to many "old timers"...the midfielders (and players in general) in that era were VASTLY superior to the current team memebers, so it stands to reason that those players had better service. What is their record in comparison?
We can "hypothesise" all we want, but the FACTS speak for themselves. That is something no one can take away from Stern John.
As for whether we have ample coverage....we all hope so. But to be quite honest...I don't see any other T&T striker scoring the type of goal that Stern scored against Mexico (2nd goal) for example. Just like I don't see any other T&T player scoring the type of goal that latapy scored against Guatemala.
Is not like we have this potent midfield that creating bagfuls of chances every game for the others to get "more" than Stern's output. Matter of fact, many on this site repeatedly claim that this Soca Warrior team is inferior in talent and ability to the 2001, 1997, 1993 and 1989 WCQ teams. If this team is so "limited" in terms of talent therefore "SERVICE" to create chances is less, how is Stern John still the top scorer on the team? Where would these chances come from for the other players to score? I would definitely HOPE so...for I want my T&T team to do well....but likely? Nah.
But we go agree to disagree on this.
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We may have had better individual players in the past.....we even have players on the team, as you all know, that are past their prime now....
However,,,I can certainly believe this is the BEST TEAM we ever had in the history of TnT.
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Thank you for your message
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Anybody putting some ££$$££$$ on dat? :beermug:
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I was one of the people who supported Stern started even when men were calling for his head. If Beenie could start this man after having 1 point from 3 games then I think that says something of what Stern means to this team. There is no way we would have qualified without this coach and without a player called Stern John.
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Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty - has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?
I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..
edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month..
Seeing that Stern John made his debut for T&T in 1996, I am pretty sure that in the years prior to 1996 other strikers have played for T&T, including such luminaries as Steve David, Buggy Haynes, Genwyn Cust etc. According to many "old timers"...the midfielders (and players in general) in that era were VASTLY superior to the current team memebers, so it stands to reason that those players had better service. What is their record in comparison?
We can "hypothesise" all we want, but the FACTS speak for themselves. That is something no one can take away from Stern John.
As for whether we have ample coverage....we all hope so. But to be quite honest...I don't see any other T&T striker scoring the type of goal that Stern scored against Mexico (2nd goal) for example. Just like I don't see any other T&T player scoring the type of goal that latapy scored against Guatemala.
Is not like we have this potent midfield that creating bagfuls of chances every game for the others to get "more" than Stern's output. Matter of fact, many on this site repeatedly claim that this Soca Warrior team is inferior in talent and ability to the 2001, 1997, 1993 and 1989 WCQ teams. If this team is so "limited" in terms of talent therefore "SERVICE" to create chances is less, how is Stern John still the top scorer on the team? Where would these chances come from for the other players to score? I would definitely HOPE so...for I want my T&T team to do well....but likely? Nah.
But we go agree to disagree on this.
Thank you for clearing this up with them. Some people could never see Stern John for who he really is just because he never played for ManU.
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On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....
66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)
18 goals in 38 WCQ games
Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
(Have to add 2 goals fuh de matches against Iceland, Peru & Austria trainin match)
When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option. Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T. Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team.
Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute. Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games. Dat better dan Ronaldo.
In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games
De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man. In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes.
Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute? Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!
Disgruntle? Wha yuh say?
By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.
The numbers do speak..however which other striker during "Half slab" time have been given more time at the position? If a striker is given all or most of the time upfront it's only accepted that he should score the most? Additionally..what is is shoot-miss-score ratio.. for the amount of misses we can assume that the chances for him were created..so any other striker, given those chamce may have produced (or not)?
I eh know what is Beenie plans..but it would be nice to see HS come back ah few times and help out when we in trouble.
Not to take anything away from meh boy HS.. cause he's a real dedicated Warrior and a certain level of respect must be shown to him for his contributions.
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stern john did not walk into ithe team on his debut in 1996
he pushed someone out of a place and let his boots do the talking
who is pushing him hard on this squad??
u push him he pushes back with a goal u push more he pushes back with a brace
he shows the coach that to pick me is to insure we score to pick them is to see we get chances to score
im sure whoever the strikers were when stern came in men like leonson..i think were wary of this young fellar wit a pistol thinkin he aint go take my spot
but goals talk and like scotty beauty in the austria wein game and jones header d other striker talkin back
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
so man like #8 and hyper j who is glenn and jones advocates tell allyuh boys keep pushing they chanc go come
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If it was all about numbers, Angus Eve would be on this Team as a top scoring dedicated scoring midfielder...and he score big goals too...but it is not all about numbers....Please don't misunderstand, I am not calling for banishment of Stern...I just think he should be playing a different role - ala Yorke, Latapy,, as opposed to being our #1 main go to guy....the role I would personally like to see him play, is more like his earlier days with Birningham...sort of playing the position Yorke now plays, as a supporting forward, as opposed to out and out Striker..His most recent goals, including his big Mexico, did not come from that Striker position, but from the support position...rebound from whitley shot and lateral ricohet from whitleys' tackle.... his one outright striker play was when he was fouled and awarded a penalty...anybody coulda miss that, most would score it....not holding that against nobody...
So I think - depending on the situation of course - he should not be the main target, and would probably benefit from a more hardworking target man, more than the other way round...
nb: I am not doubting BeenE decisions, just suggesting other alternatives, not the solution
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anyway you look at it, STERN JOHN IS OUR BEST STRIKER, YES HE IS!!! ook at stern club season this year, Kenweyne Jones is one d first name to call buh he play more games dan stern this season and scored less dan stern, less danm half, he is an incomplete striker... Stern has the true striker instinct in the end of the days he is still the striker who will pulla goal out he ass, even tho he does throw way...LOOK AT THE GOAL HE SCORE AGAINST PANAMA IN D STADIUM, WHICH ONE OF OUR OTHER STIKERS WAS GOING TO SCORE A GOAL LIKE DAT, IT WASN'T PRETTY, BUT IT WAS A TRUE STRIKERS GOAL AND IT WASN'T THE EASIEST GOAL TO SCORE, throughout his career, i have seen Stern score goals dat looked improbable and none of our pother strikers have yet to show me dat they can do dat as yet.... this is probably what beenhakker has seen in training and called him a class player, yes he can be a frustrating player buh he is more effective, too many trinidadians does get caught up in d hype, glen, jones arew exciting but do they deliver??? knewenyne jones has 2 goals in 25 games ppl and glen's record isn't special either, the only striker truly capable of taking stern place is scotland and half of allyuh not even checking for him...
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anyway you look at it, STERN JOHN IS OUR BEST STRIKER, YES HE IS!!! ook at stern club season this year, Kenweyne Jones is one d first name to call buh he play more games dan stern this season and scored less dan stern, less danm half, he is an incomplete striker... Stern has the true striker instinct in the end of the days he is still the striker who will pulla goal out he ass, even tho he does throw way...LOOK AT THE GOAL HE SCORE AGAINST PANAMA IN D STADIUM, WHICH ONE OF OUR OTHER STIKERS WAS GOING TO SCORE A GOAL LIKE DAT, IT WASN'T PRETTY, BUT IT WAS A TRUE STRIKERS GOAL AND IT WASN'T THE EASIEST GOAL TO SCORE, throughout his career, i have seen Stern score goals dat looked improbable and none of our pother strikers have yet to show me dat they can do dat as yet.... this is probably what beenhakker has seen in training and called him a class player, yes he can be a frustrating player buh he is more effective, too many trinidadians does get caught up in d hype, glen, jones arew exciting but do they deliver??? knewenyne jones has 2 goals in 25 games ppl and glen's record isn't special either, the only striker truly capable of taking stern place is scotland and half of allyuh not even checking for him...
There's only one Jason Scotland .... Scotty to blaze in germany
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Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.
Allow me a question ?
Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
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Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.
Allow me a question ?
Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
How about just Stern John.
Tink people in Brazil does be talkin bout leh we select Ronaldo from 1996 instead a Ronaldo in 2006?
You self man maxg.
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I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup. I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly. This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication. This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we. That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football. It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us. Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland? Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.
I aint too like dis nah ! Yorke is a boss and as a striker when he was in he prime stern aint want nothing with him, i wonder who got traded at Birmingham to make room for Yorke.
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Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.
Allow me a question ?
Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
How about just Stern John.
Tink people in Brazil does be talkin bout leh we select Ronaldo from 1996 instead a Ronaldo in 2006?
You self man maxg.
;D Then they shoulda pick Romario instead....the numbers has spoken ;)
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stern john did not walk into ithe team on his debut in 1996
he pushed someone out of a place and let his boots do the talking
who is pushing him hard on this squad??
u push him he pushes back with a goal u push more he pushes back with a brace
he shows the coach that to pick me is to insure we score to pick them is to see we get chances to score
im sure whoever the strikers were when stern came in men like leonson..i think were wary of this young fellar wit a pistol thinkin he aint go take my spot
but goals talk and like scotty beauty in the austria wein game and jones header d other striker talkin back
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
so man like #8 and hyper j who is glenn and jones advocates tell allyuh boys keep pushing they chanc go come
I have the same opinion. Leave Stern where he is. If you're arguing on merit Stern can't be removed. If the idea of replacing Stern is one of succession planning then it makes a little more sense and even then he should still play a part 2010.
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Did someone say remove him ? If I missed that post, sorry .
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Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?
I happen to think it is his "shot" and screening ability, USED to be his quick turn,speed, heading ability and shot.
thus I would play him in a position where he is most likely get a chance to use his best ability, that's all.
If I am wrong on what I (not all Trinidadians) percieve to be the change in his game (lack of my privy to practice info), then my reasoning is incorrect. I am basing my opinion on my observation of his games - before and after his knee injury.
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Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?
66 goals in 94 games.
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Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?
I happen to think it is his "shot" and screening ability, USED to be his quick turn,speed, heading ability and shot.
thus I would play him in a position where he is most likely get a chance to use his best ability, that's all.
If I am wrong on what I (not all Trinidadians) percieve to be the change in his game (lack of my privy to practice info), then my reasoning is incorrect. I am basing my opinion on my observation of his games - before and after his knee injury.
Stern scored no fewer than 12 goals in qualifying 2nd only to Borgetti with 14 who scored a fistful against St. Kitts and St. Vincent and Dominica in their stadiums in the sky, compared to Stern's 6 goals in 10 games in the hex. If there was something tactically wrong with Stern's role on the field the coach would have moved him.
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Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?
66 goals in 94 games.
i am in total acqience
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well, point man it is...Iz ah good thing BeenE doh call me to ask me meh opinion eh ! ;)
next thing, he blamin me if de man doh do that ting that he oobviously does so well....all the best Stern....wherever the coach play yuh, I behind yuh 100 %...
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some of these fellahz rel pompous oui they love to call the names of the fellahz they like.
I dont care who you like. I support each and every player on that feild and when it comes to we strikers no one puts the ball in the net as nicely or as frequently as Stern John so dont bother trying to argue that any of our forwards are better because you are simply wrong before you even type.
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some of these fellahz rel pompous oui they love to call the names of the fellahz they like.
I dont care who you like. I support each and every player on that feild and when it comes to we strikers no one puts the ball in the net as nicely or as frequently as Stern John so dont bother trying to argue that any of our forwards are better because you are simply wrong before you even type.
Better than ? Well thanks for straightenin meh out. next time ah get ah thought I will just PM yuh before ah type..so ah wouldn't waste nobody time nah..and if yuh doh know the answer, yuh could type the ideas for meh...cause den it would be right..and ah wouldn't embarras mehself so by trying to have ah meanful discussion bout any of our players, as ah doh support every one of them as you ::)
wait....ah to damn farse, yuh wasn't even talkin to me right ? ;D
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Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.
Allow me a question ?
Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
d hype i was talking is bout is dat rel ppl after the peru game bawl oh how kenwenye shud be starting he's the real striker throw way stern john... and was hearind this start glen or jones over john from long time, da's d hype iwas talking bout...
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Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.
Allow me a question ?
Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
d hype i was talking is bout is dat rel ppl after the peru game bawl oh how kenwenye shud be starting he's the real striker throw way stern john... and was hearind this start glen or jones over john from long time, da's d hype iwas talking bout...
all tell yuh Azari Trinifinite was saying exactly that when de game was done... stewps and maxg... I cant figure out what point you are trying to push... I am simply fedup of people doing just what Azari described there... our through and through striker doesnt perform well and after one game plenty people jump on the "toss out John" waggon again... I am fedup of that shit...
and by the way... I put forth a point and you obviously could not despute it... so instead of trying to despute it you tryed to attack me and not my point... what are you trying to prove...??... other than your a pompous idiot
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I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup. I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly. This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication. This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we. That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football. It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us. Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland? Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.
I aint too like dis nah ! Yorke is a boss and as a striker when he was in he prime stern aint want nothing with him, i wonder who got traded at Birmingham to make room for Yorke.
You know I had already conceeded that Palos had a point, but since you brought it back up here goes:
Yorke has 15 international goals for T&T - that's it. Not one more.
Stern has 64 international goals for T&T.
If Beenhakker was looking for a striker that is most likely to score, who do you think he would choose?
That is precisely why Yorke is playing in the midfield and NOT as a striker. He, quite frankly, is of little scoring value to T&T's team - just like if you played Lawrence as a striker he would be ineffective. Maybe he could score on the club level or the "highest level" as he always calls it, but scoring against international sides (even teams like Grenada) tends to be a problem. In contrast, no international side has been a problem for Stern to score against.
The thing that a lot of people are having problems with (and I really getting tired of having to say this) is understanding that club success does not translate into international team value.
Example: Birchall is a big nobody in his home club, but a diamond on the international field against world class competition like Mexico - did you see him have a hard time against Mexico? He didn't even flinch. He totally dominated the competition.
Yorke on the other hand, (and I am not comparing him to Brichall here) has raised every club trophy, and yet only has celebrity status value versus scoring value on the T&T team. The fact is even Latapy has scored more than "highest level" striker Yorke. What club does Latapy play for?
Do not let Yorke's Premiership celebrity status blind you and cause you to overlook Stern John - a striker that Yorke simply can never be mentioned next to in the official FIFA World Top Strikers in the history of football.
One other thing Stern John is currently only 13 goals away from shattering the great Brazilian Pele's record. Where is Yorke in comparison to Pele? Nah, let's lower the bar. Let's compare Yorke's scoring value in T&T against Landon Donovan's scoring value on the USA team.
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes! Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!! Yuh get a visa to go Germany?
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes! Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!! Yuh get a visa to go Germany?
VISA?.. one thing at a time..Passport fuss..dem he go worry bout Visa, plane ticket, travellers cheque, grip.. etc
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes! Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!! Yuh get a visa to go Germany?
VISA?.. one thing at a time..Passport fuss..dem he go worry bout Visa, plane ticket, travellers cheque, grip.. etc
which VISA doh?
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes! Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!! Yuh get a visa to go Germany?
VISA?.. one thing at a time..Passport fuss..dem he go worry bout Visa, plane ticket, travellers cheque, grip.. etc
which VISA doh?
From he boss!..
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:rotfl: :rotfl:
Borse say ah could Germany if ah want, Germany an Beyond. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Wha dah mean boy...Sound like ah go need ah starship, not ah visa..
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
well you shouldnt have tried to fight fire with fire know what I mean?
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boy i find some men sounding like dey trying to diss yorke,but the truth is currently yorke pulling his weight more than john,and frankly we should start with jones cause he deserve it,john pull us through plenty in the past but right know he eh make it.
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boy i find some men sounding like dey trying to diss yorke,but the truth is currently yorke pulling his weight more than john,and frankly we should start with jones cause he deserve it,john pull us through plenty in the past but right know he eh make it.
You know what I like about Stern? The fact that he is the only striker that could score against Wales. Nobody else could deliver. Win or Lose Stern is the only sure scorer.
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67 goals in 95 games
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What do ypu mean Jefferz ?
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yeah summa alya rel miscountin goals
austria goal doh count
nieither duz de brazil team goal
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
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Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
The majority of whom the knowlegable heads on this forum, talking to average not trini, unless i seem to attract them, i encounter the DROP STERN COMMITTEE very regularly and even after he score and everybody throw yday dey calling for him...
I am not convinced about Kenweyne Jones deserving a spot, not yet anyway, he still doesn't impress me as a striker, his speed makes him a nusiance buh he is hardly a finisher or fluent striker as yet and just cause he does "seem" more involved in game with his runs watever he doesn't have a big imapct in the game in my opinion.. i rather glen or scotland as the second dtirker with stern and if we play right the REAL stern will show up...
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Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.
Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ? :D :D
:devil:
Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd :rotfl:
well you shouldnt have tried to fight fire with fire know what I mean?
Have some respect little boy...just cause you dont have the mental capacity to decipher a point doesnt mean that its not there...once in a while its good to sit back and just read without rushin in to type that utter garbage that passes for your opinion.
Now back to the point,
Hadda disagree maxg, Stern is CLASS. He go have me cussing right through a game but in a flash he go be in the right position. Now if we talking bout who could take his place? None of the forwards on our team can do that....Stern's initial touches and control are 10x better than glenn and Jones...Scotland on his way but i doh think that right now is a time to experiment with a different setup. Run Stern as much as you can and put a backup for him to layoff too.
Personally, ah just wish the man would not wait for the ball to bounce or come down as in recent games....with better defenders, that ball go be cleared out.
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We've discussed this topic ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Here is my opinion. Stern John is Stern John and no player with a Trinidad and Tobago passport can tie Stern's shoes when it comes to scoring goals. Moreover the system that coach who took us to our first World Cup chose demands a player like Stern John. I think those who critcise Stern should do so in the context of the man's record and of the coach's unwavering support him.
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Guys, my argument was not of including or excluding Stern...It was changing his role for the Front striker to the supporting striker...Most presented points why he should start, ah lil fella even get offend and start to disrespect heself....ah nex man seem to think that if someone disagree with the status quo he may not be knowledable, or even ah old head ;D That is not the point whether or not he should start, I was supporting why he should play the different role..
If Stern produces, but he is not the best in the World and the best Team in the world did/do not depend on 1 man to score, if we only depend on Stern to score then we will most surely lose, we have to have Stern score and someone else, and I think Stern has the ability to get other people to score, if he is so Instructed. None of the other forwards has his control and holdup ability as well, but at present for this level he is too deep to properly utilize....he mostly recieving air balls, or ballls with 3 men on...very difficult for ANYBODY to Operate...so I am basically preaching change the tactics not the player....the time to try that is now..not next week.....
I hope this is clearer.
Got's to go cause meh bad ass coolie wife buggin meh...
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Got's to go cause meh bad ass coolie wife buggin meh...
Yuh have a nex wife oddah dan de one I know or wha?
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Got's to go cause meh bad ass coolie wife buggin meh...
Yuh have a nex wife oddah dan de one I know or wha?
Break Time....wuk boy...wuk..
nah same one, different name different circles ;D
aka "D Puna asaissin", aka "Mammy" aka "Virgin Mary" ... nah same one jus smarter or should I say more deadly :D :D
buh she call it as ah write it..
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I was in a self imposed silence since the Arsenal game, but I real vex with this side.
It is painfully obvious we ent beating nobody with that brand we playing and what is worse is we get three from a shit side.
Slovenia ent play nuttin and alyuh just looking for excuse.......
I realise many of you all didnt see the 1st half as the stream wasnt running then.
If you did, you woulda see how we didn't have a clue..........that first goal 5 men in our area vs 3 clueless TT defenders.
Yorke playing first stopper and we just ent have a clue going fwd.
We couldnt come out our half for the first 20 min .
The second goal shaka do shit and a man tuck it in.
But I notice alyuh ent talk about the man who for me was the Goat of the game.
This #14 fella.
Who making excuse for he today.
#14 Get this in yuh head and all the other men on the field......
This is WC...yuh playing the best in the world and the chupidness yuh coulda get away with in Concacaf will not cut it any more.
GOALS WIN MATCHES
YUH HAVE TO TAKE YUH CHANCE WHEN IT COMES
WE WILL ONLY GET 1-2 CHANCES Per game...........BURY IT.
The line between Hero and Shithound is very thin.....The last time yuh was on the Hero side was 5 games ago.
You get a one on one in the 18 and try to chip the keeper who in the six yard box instead of piping bullet.
The thing is had he scored that "gift" we would have immediately been back in the game MOMENTUM WISE.
Then the attempted beat and fall down in the six yard box.
Then the clear tru ball to hit wide.
Then the cross that yuh jest collide with the keeper
OH Shit man #14
Score the judgement goals and let people like yuh.
Yuh not tracking back, yuh not involving others in the play, yuh not being creative and yuh not running off the ball to create space.
If yuh ent scoring whats yuh purpose......at least use yuh size to do something instead of falling down.....and stop the star boy shit.
Yuh playing Shit yuh pulling stones and yuh giving all of we heart attack.
This #14 come like the youth who playing mortal combat in the arcade and cyar beat the first opponent. He only wasting tokens, wasting tokens over and over and no amount of feeding getting him better.
I sorry for Shaka but both he and the defence is to blame for all d shit goals and we start back shadowing and pointin. Bring Back Ince yes put Ince in the post for the Czech game.
They had only two positives in that game.
Birchall show he could shoot and score and we get one good cross from Wise who show he could do something.
I will maintain my WC prediction as nothing has shown me otherwise but yuh know what.
This TT side going and do the usual and play good in the games we supposed to lorse badly and we will pull orf a decent performance vs Czech.
But until then #14
You, the TT defence and the rest of the men who pulling stones look what alyuh need a dose of before alyuh reach prague
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Senna Pods...... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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shut up!!!i figure it out... Bennie trying to confuffle the world b4 the WC!!!! and as for stern i dont think u should complain... although he didnt put away his chances he still got alotta them and tended to be in the best positions we got throughout the game
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i like de bull pistle :devil:
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This TT side going and do the usual and play good in the games we supposed to lorse badly and we will pull orf a decent performance vs Czech.
Touches yuh come back lashin hard
but if you are correct with this statement then that is a cause for optimism
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Touches u are right...
TNT won't be able to get away with being 2- 0 at halftime and come back second half and win 3-2 as they did to the Vincentians in the qualifiers....
This aint no joke ting..
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... but Touches.... de ppl and dem say:
If Better can't be done.... Let de worse continue!! :-X
But what funny is... if it was Disgruntled post dis.... he woulda done get lynch!
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ummm Touches when ya finish exposing meh whip ya think ya could return it where ya find it ?
God knows why i didn't watch dat game yes. up to now i ain't hear one person say something positive about the team on their way to dey WC
Everytime i come in dey forum normally i scann de website.....
"Soca Warriors’ get Welsh lesson" and now this "Slovenia spank T&T 3-1". WHA' NEXT >:(
steups
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It is not the result that bothers me.
It is the performance or rather lack thereof that needs work.
I am simply of the view we are not ready.
I more than anyone else want TT to win some games and advance.
But I cannot see it happening with that brand, that defence and that striker.
I just dont want us be embarrassed when we play our three games.
Lemme not call no names...........but some of alyuh posters gettin orn like a person who boil a pot of white rice, put orn a pair brown shades and eating it and bawling the pelau tasting good.
Face the reality and doe let the patriotism goggles blind yuh.
We in white rice mode and we ent eating nice atall.
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is like my coach always used to tell us.....ur only as good as ur last game!!
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Right now ah sure yuh have real waggonist searching google to figure out who is #14
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I ain't go lie, that mortal combat anology was real funny :rotfl:
but seriously give d number 14 thing a rest, get over it. this so called worst thing in tugs is we best hope, so u might as well get used to it for now!!!
thanks
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the thing i agree with most is the Momentum factor... we create none of it... we are sticky and hesitant... I see only three players on our team that create good attacking Momentum and they arnt the best player necessarily...
those players are, Latapy, Birchall and Wise.
All the others can string up passes and beats once or twice... but they cant put it in the net and it is sorely frustrating to watch.
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I was in a self imposed silence since the Arsenal game, but I real vex with this side.
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I sorry for Shaka but both he and the defence is to blame for all d shit goals and we start back shadowing and pointin. Bring Back Ince yes put Ince in the post for the Czech game.
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I will maintain my WC prediction as nothing has shown me otherwise but yuh know what.
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I also really want to see Ince in goal for the Czech game; at least to see the man in action. That said Jack is still the #1 keeper.
What are your predictions for the WC?
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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shut up!!!i figure it out... Bennie trying to confuffle the world b4 the WC!!!! and as for stern i dont think u should complain... although he didnt put away his chances he still got alotta them and tended to be in the best positions we got throughout the game
And what does that mean exactly about he got alot of chances and was in the best positions,look here me out here the best defense is a great offense and if yuh ent scoring,get somebody-else to do it.
I here man saying he go score in the world cup,he go light it up,and this is all based upon what he has accomplished against what mostly mediocre opposition,it's not to say we play shit and win,we play shit and lose,so there goes the saying out the door,the ugliest of wins is better than the prettiest of lorses.
And in the end how much chances does one need to prove himself worthy of the praise given to him.........
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
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All ah you just shut up and give the boys a break! An anyone who think that going to the 2nd round was a certainty and that because they lose all of a sudden they can't play are the ones who need the bull pistle. They go do deh best and we go still root for them. They belong to us! Go Warriors!
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
well said :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
Cheyenne dred... you know im a big Stern supporter too... but the man should have finished 3 of his 3 chances... and Kenwyne is the future... he is a raw talent yes... but he has the most potential out of all our other strikers.
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It is not the result that bothers me.
It is the performance or rather lack thereof that needs work.
I am simply of the view we are not ready.
I more than anyone else want TT to win some games and advance.
But I cannot see it happening with that brand, that defence and that striker.
I just dont want us be embarrassed when we play our three games.
Lemme not call no names...........but some of alyuh posters gettin orn like a person who boil a pot of white rice, put orn a pair brown shades and eating it and bawling the pelau tasting good.
Face the reality and doe let the patriotism goggles blind yuh.
We in white rice mode and we ent eating nice atall.
Watch d side Beenie play.
Yorke in d back.
You really tink u can judge our performance from that?
No way.
All this is training. Allyuh gettin frustrated for nuttin.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
ok fair enuff..... Started as ST against USA ...0 goals
Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals
Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals
Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals
Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal
Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals
Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals
Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal
Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!
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ok fair enuff..... Started as ST against USA ...0 goals
Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals
Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals
Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals
Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal
Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals
Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals
Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal
Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
AS a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!
Cheyenne dred... he is young and unpolished of course he isnt going to be a huge goal socring phenom from the get go... yuh have to have patience... he is plenty younger than Stern and is much more so the "future" of our football... If Stern was fit like Yorke i would agree that he could still make another world cup but unfortunately he isnt...
so dont always judge the man by his stastics.
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Right now ah sure yuh have real waggonist searching google to figure out who is #14
LOL!!
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
Wey you feel it is???? Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.
As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
I was in a self imposed silence since the Arsenal game, but I real vex with this side.
It is painfully obvious we ent beating nobody with that brand we playing and what is worse is we get three from a shit side.
Slovenia ent play nuttin and alyuh just looking for excuse.......
I realise many of you all didnt see the 1st half as the stream wasnt running then.
If you did, you woulda see how we didn't have a clue..........that first goal 7 men in our area vs 3 clueless TT defenders.
Yorke playing first stopper and we just ent have a clue going fwd.
We couldnt come out our half for the first 20 min .
The second goal shaka do shit and a man tuck it in.
But I notice alyuh ent talk about the man who for me was the Goat of the game.
This #14 fella.
Who making excuse for he today.
#14 Get this in yuh head and all the other men on the field......
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OK fair enough.... How many goals does Yorke have again? 15? That's it?? With Latapy in the area all these 20 years and he only has 15 goals?
Stern is a boss.
If Stern was mess, then Yorke should have compensated - but quite FRANKLY he CAN'T.
Stern has over 4 times the goals of Yorke, and over twice the goals of Latapy. Right now Brazil has only produce ONE player that has more goals than Stern. One man can't do everything, let Yorke shoot instead of doing a pass to Stern in the penalty box (in the first half) that Stern has to twist to shoot. Let ANYBODY, for that matter score more than Stern over 20 10 matches and I will rest my case.
You know what?!! Beenhakker should have really rested Stern in that Guatemala game... All you #14 people would be cussing praising Yorke ::)
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
It's ok if you want to keep supporting #14 blindly, after all even the coach of our national team doesn't seem to know how to differentiate a good striker from one who purging regular. But Jones aint no shithoud.
How many of those 15 games has Jones actually started and played a full 90?
How many of those games did he start at striker? (BSC had him playing right wing back in the earlies)
How many games did he play against the Caribbean minnows in Shell Cup to pad his stats?
Anyway its not Stern's fault nah. It's Beenie who insists on playing him a full 90 EVERY f*cking game when men like Glen can't even get a 10 minute run to prepare to face some of the best defenders in the world.
Even BSC would have been embarrassed to be associated with Beenie's decisions in this match - 10 DAYS BEFORE THE WORLD CUP!!
Cyd playing center back when he's played right back all his life
Edwards playing right back when he's probably our most creative player going forward
Sancho benching when he's our next most accomplished backup central defender and he's short on int'l match practice
Yorke our best midfielder who's played striker all his life, marshalling the back line
Stern playing a full 90 regardless of anything and everything that transpires on the field
Anyway no sense complaining...allyuh like it so!!
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Started as ST against USA ...0 goals
Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals
Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals
Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals
Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal
Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals
Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals
Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal
Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
ok fair enuff..... Started as ST against USA ...0 goals
Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals
Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals
Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals
Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal
Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals
Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals
Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal
Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!
ok, just for argument's sake (I done after this because I can't change Beenie mind and I feel Stern due for a scoring spree), over that time period you listed there Stern play 19 games by my count (10 in the Hex, 3 in the GC, 2 against Bahrain and 1 each against Iceland, Wales, Austria Wien and Slovenia, correct me if I'm wrong) and scored 5 in the Hex (1 in each game against Panama, 2 against Guatemala and 2 against Mexico), 1 against Slovenia and 1 against Wales for a total of 7 goals in those 19 games. Now is that really so much better than 3 in 15 when Stern starting all the time and Kenwyne come on as a sub in 6 of his 15 games?
edit: 1+1+2+2 = 6 goals in the Hex, so I apologize for my poor algebra. So 8 goals in 19 games, is a reasonable return as a standalone statistic. I'll leave it to others to decide if it's reasonable in context (quality of opposition etc)
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Small Mag
I have resigned myself to seeing Stern start every match and I accept that he is our #1 Striker.
But When he play shit I calling him out.......same way I will applaud him if he do good.
I just want the man score.....thats all.
If is tough love he need and he cuss we as fans after he score like in the Guatemala game thats no scene....but just score the government ball nah man.
I never see a set of men defend a shit performance like alyuh on this site....and turn and twist it round all how and look to call man waggonist and naysayers and all kinda ting when all we simply want is the team to play better.
I was silent before but I go start back posting...I going and rile up alyuh tail here on this board.
Alyuh does accept mediocrity......... but not me...I want and I expecting more from this side....and I havent even set meh standards too high....I know full well what we are capable or not capable of.
As I will repeat again...........I ent mind we lorse a game........but it is the performance that matters.........TT not performing.
All d training game and beenie experiementing comment etc...is alyuh way of shutting out reality, of providing a lil sense of mental comfort so alyuh could sleep good at night.
Lemme tell alyuh something.....I doe be surprised when TT lorse a game.....I does be surprised we win.....and this side ent do nuttin yet to change my perception of this team.
But I wishing them all the best, may they put they best foot fwd and I hope #14 find the back of the net in the three games that count.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
ok fair enuff..... Started as ST against USA ...0 goals
Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals
Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals
Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals
Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal
Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals
Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals
Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal
Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........
Thanks for bringing the point out loud and clear! But let's take it further.
Celebrity Yorke has 15 from 51 games playing as a striker - and that is counting the 2 he scored against Iceland! Do you really think that he would have survived another international team with that record? HELL NO!
Stern worked his way up and nobody is a better striker than him - not Kenwyne, not Samuel, not Latapy (although he is not a striker), and SURE AS HELL NOT Yorke.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
Wey you feel it is???? Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.
As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.
with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
ok fair enuff..... Started as ST against USA ...0 goals
Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals
Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals
Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals
Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal
Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals
Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals
Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals
Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals
Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal
Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........
Thanks for bringing the point out loud and clear! But let's take it further.
Celebrity Yorke has 15 from 51 games playing as a striker - and that is counting the 2 he scored against Iceland! Do you really think that he would have survived another international team with that record? HELL NO!
Stern worked his way up and nobody is a better striker than him - not Kenwyne, not Samuel, not Latapy (although he is not a striker), and SURE AS HELL NOT Yorke.
wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
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Stern is STILL the most prolific striker we have. The man score in the last game and nobody have nuttin to say bad about him.
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Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals
As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!
Ummm no Jones played on the wings against Wales...and he was a sub in 6 games...and he was playing WITH STERN in most of the other games so he was getting NO HELP or passes or set ups from his fellow striker who only standing around begging for the ball and cussing man if they pass it to Jones
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Trinimassive the man play real real lala in the last game too.
Is because he score he get away from talk.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
It's ok if you want to keep supporting #14 blindly, after all even the coach of our national team doesn't seem to know how to differentiate a good striker from one who purging regular. But Jones aint no shithoud.
How many of those 15 games has Jones actually started and played a full 90?
How many of those games did he start at striker? (BSC had him playing right wing back in the earlies)
How many games did he play against the Caribbean minnows in Shell Cup to pad his stats?
Anyway its not Stern's fault nah. It's Beenie who insists on playing him a full 90 EVERY f*cking game when men like Glen can't even get a 10 minute run to prepare to face some of the best defenders in the world.
Even BSC would have been embarrassed to be associated with Beenie's decisions in this match - 10 DAYS BEFORE THE WORLD CUP!!
Cyd playing center back when he's played right back all his life
Edwards playing right back when he's probably our most creative player going forward
Sancho benching when he's our next most accomplished backup central defender and he's short on int'l match practice
Yorke our best midfielder who's played striker all his life, marshalling the back line
Stern playing a full 90 regardless of anything and everything that transpires on the field
Anyway no sense complaining...allyuh like it so!!
arrow for president... :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
It's ok if you want to keep supporting #14 blindly, after all even the coach of our national team doesn't seem to know how to differentiate a good striker from one who purging regular. But Jones aint no shithoud.
How many of those 15 games has Jones actually started and played a full 90?
How many of those games did he start at striker? (BSC had him playing right wing back in the earlies)
How many games did he play against the Caribbean minnows in Shell Cup to pad his stats?
Anyway its not Stern's fault nah. It's Beenie who insists on playing him a full 90 EVERY game when men like Glen can't even get a 10 minute run to prepare to face some of the best defenders in the world.
Even BSC would have been embarrassed to be associated with Beenie's decisions in this match - 10 DAYS BEFORE THE WORLD CUP!!
You can't be serious. BSC WATCHING the world ON TV, he could ever be embarrassed about Beenie's decisions?
You know I never heard anyone complain about Yorke's scoring record? Every time he came to T&T everyone was praising him up. Eh score one goal, but nobody was bad talking him...while Stern scoring left right and center at the same time.
Now we lost a game and is the same "drop Stern John" attitude all over again - now blaming Beenhakker and all. You know what should have really happened??!! Beenhakker should have dropped YORKE after the 0 impact performance in this AND the last game. ooops! I shouldn't have said that eh?? huh? Edwards played WAY better than Yorke today.
Now I am not saying this because I have anything against Yorke. I am simply alerting you to the lop-sided thinking that I am constantly hearing on this forum.
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We playing dead to ketch corbeaux alive ;D Palos like you vex man. Maybe it's time to bring back you song " you looking for licks"
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well since we lose 2 game and men calling to drop stern, we might as well drop d whole defence, call up julius james, and derek king since dem is we future.
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wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record? What is Stern's? Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club? How many of those goals can help T&T win a game? IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.
Who has the better scoring record for T&T? Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)? The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
JEFFERZ, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.
Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.
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absolutely agre with touches. brilliant post. Its time to wake up. BENCH STERN, lets see KENWYNE, aAT LEEAST DAT MAN WILL RUN!
and no, dont call me fickle, call me fed up! its a week to go and this is how we're preparing??
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absolutely agre with touches. brilliant post. Its time to wake up. BENCH STERN, lets see KENWYNE, aAT LEEAST DAT MAN WILL RUN!
and no, dont call me fickle, call me fed up! its a week to go and this is how we're preparing??
boy allyuh are some rell c**tholes in truth boy
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you know i could give a shit about stern's scoring record. We need all the legs and men running as we can get for these games. Stern wont run and hes in one of his infamous cold snaps. So give me KENWYNE and let that man run and power a hheader or two
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wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record? What is Stern's? Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club? How many of those goals can help T&T win a game? IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.
Who has the better scoring record for T&T? Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)? The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.
Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.
For the statisticians, let's see the breakdown for the games that they played together as strike partners.
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wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record? What is Stern's? Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club? How many of those goals can help T&T win a game? IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.
Who has the better scoring record for T&T? Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)? The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.
Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.
For the statisticians, let's see the breakdown for the games that they played together as strike partners.
Palos, if you can, get us these stats please.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
Wey you feel it is???? Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.
As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.
with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now.
So den you sayin Kenwyne is de man fuh de job den ?
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Touches....ah understand your angst and pain but I'm operating under the theory that Beenhaker knows what he is doing...that doesn't mean that #14 should muff his chances....but I think and I'm telling myself that I have to believe this.... is that Beenie working on certain aspects of the game.....I only saw the 2nd half but looking at #19 playing almost a stopper like position tells me he working on bits and pieces. I think his strategy is ..if they don't know what to expect then they won't know how to prepare....seems as if he is using this element of surprise if that is the case to go for an all out win in the first game.
The only evidence I have to support my theory is that the first thing he instilled in the team when he took over was discipline...I saw none of that today...ah jes hope meh theory right if not ah go find out in 10 days time.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
Wey you feel it is???? Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.
As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.
with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now.
So den you sayin Kenwyne is de man fuh de job den ?
I am saying that your argument, as I understood it, doesn't hold water. If I understand correctly, you are saying that 1) Kenwyne should work his ass off for a break and 2) Stern has the right to be there because he used to score in the past. It seems to be that those two things are contradictory in spirit. One is valuing hard work and the other is implying it is ok to rest on your laurels. Notice I am not saying that Stern is resting on his laurels, I can't read anybody mind. That is just how I interpreted your post.
In an earlier post, I mentioned that I personally would have liked to have seen Scotland get a decent opportunity at some point. As an illustration of my thinking: for the first 3 (USA, Gaut, CR) games of the Hex Stern was scoreless, and then after scoring against Panama, he went 5 games without scoring (Mexico, 3 GC games and USA), has Scotland ever been afforded a stretch of 5 consecutive scoreless games, or a stretch where he scored 1 goal in 9 games?
Anyhow, like Touches said Stern is probably going to be the man on the field come June 10th, so best of luck to him.
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I am a huge Stern John fan but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....
still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound
was it now like 2 goals in 15caps
when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den
to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.
If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him. It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.
Wey you feel it is???? Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.
As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.
with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now.
So den you sayin Kenwyne is de man fuh de job den ?
I am saying that your argument, as I understood it, doesn't hold water. If I understand correctly, you are saying that 1) Kenwyne should work his ass off for a break and 2) Stern has the right to be there because he used to score in the past. It seems to be that those two things are contradictory in spirit. One is valuing hard work and the other is implying it is ok to rest on your laurels. Notice I am not saying that Stern is resting on his laurels, I can't read anybody mind. That is just how I interpreted your post.
In an earlier post, I mentioned that I personally would have liked to have seen Scotland get a decent opportunity at some point. As an illustration of my thinking: for the first 3 (USA, Gaut, CR) games of the Hex Stern was scoreless, and then after scoring against Panama, he went 5 games without scoring (Mexico, 3 GC games and USA), has Scotland ever been afforded a stretch of 5 consecutive scoreless games, or a stretch where he scored 1 goal in 9 games?
Anyhow, like Touches said Stern is probably going to be the man on the field come June 10th, so best of luck to him.
All I'm saying is dat Beenie know de man is class and when we back up against de wall who is de one many ah time dat come through fuh we. Is not now man man have been say to drop stern...But doesn't he come around and shut everybody mouth after all de tongue lassin he get.
Ah see everybody say how other players not gehin ah chance , but dat is untrue. Because all ah dem been getin dey chance in dey. Kenwyne consistently gets his chance on the team don't he. You say Scotland haven't been getting chances but he consistently was playing almost every match in the Qualies.
Is not that these guys not getting chances is jes dey haven't claimed dat place to be de nxt best option if Stern isn't there. That all.
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yeh buh study dis........other than looking for oportune spaces to be......wha else does stern do?? De reason stern go get call out especially in a shit performance like dis is cause if you say you dey to put in goals......and yuh eh doing it.....or missing 90% of the time......in dat sense.....yuh eh pulling yuh weight as yuh should. If stern used to hustle like jones....quarter of the flack he getting now he wouldnt ah get. If you dey to put in chances.....yuh damn well better do it. Study how much of dem international goals stern get without somebody else putting in hard work.....den yuh realise someting. When de team plays shit.....by extension stern go play shit. If de team doh perform....stern go be starved up dey fuh service.....and even when he get a chance....yuh eh certain he go put it in. Yuh notice stern start to score when latas come back??? Why??? He wasnt getting service....and cyar do nutting to change it fuh heself.....so he just occupying space on de field. Which one you feel more risky......a striker that prone to getting starved......or one that go actually try and get tings to change?? I respect stern....buh unless things perfectly suited to him......he doh produce....and cannot change that. If you one dimensional like that....it come like yuh putting all yuh eggs in one basket.
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You say Scotland haven't been getting chances but he consistently was playing almost every match in the Qualies.
Is not that these guys not getting chances is jes dey haven't claimed dat place to be de nxt best option if Stern isn't there. That all.
a few sub appearances in the Hex hardly counts as playin almost every match
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You say Scotland haven't been getting chances but he consistently was playing almost every match in the Qualies.
Is not that these guys not getting chances is jes dey haven't claimed dat place to be de nxt best option if Stern isn't there. That all.
a few sub appearances in the Hex hardly counts as playin almost every match
Arrow dem odder fellas been gettin play almost every match.
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yeh buh study dis........other than looking for oportune spaces to be......wha else does stern do?? De reason stern go get call out especially in a shit performance like dis is cause if you say you dey to put in goals......and yuh eh doing it.....or missing 90% of the time......in dat sense.....yuh eh pulling yuh weight as yuh should. If stern used to hustle like jones....quarter of the flack he getting now he wouldnt ah get. If you dey to put in chances.....yuh damn well better do it. Study how much of dem international goals stern get without somebody else putting in hard work.....den yuh realise someting. When de team plays shit.....by extension stern go play shit. If de team doh perform....stern go be starved up dey fuh service.....and even when he get a chance....yuh eh certain he go put it in. Yuh notice stern start to score when latas come back??? Why??? He wasnt getting service....and cyar do nutting to change it fuh heself.....so he just occupying space on de field. Which one you feel more risky......a striker that prone to getting starved......or one that go actually try and get tings to change?? I respect stern....buh unless things perfectly suited to him......he doh produce....and cannot change that. If you one dimensional like that....it come like yuh putting all yuh eggs in one basket.
Let me jes say dis........Ever since Stern geh de break foot in nottingham forest 5 or 6 years ago he isn't de same Stern ah remember long ago.
Imo I feel Beenie should gih Stern ah try from behind de stiker to see how he go do because dais wey Stern use to score goals from in de early's. I remember de days ah seein Stern runnnig through defenders at will from behind de first man. Dem was de days when Dwight and Latas did rule de area. To tell you de truth ah find Stern shouldn't be used as no post up man in the front cause dat is npt what made Stern de fearless striker he was. Many ah time dais when he did score is when he come deep in the midfield and work he way in. Coming at defenders was always his greatest asset not being post man. Actually dat was Dwight game .
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Stern's goals
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html
or http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm
Caps Goals Date Venue Opponent Score Competition
1 1 1 15- 2-95 Port of Spain Finland 2-1
2 1 29-11-95 Port of Spain Norway 3-2
3 1 2 6- 3-96 Miami Haiti 2-0
4 1 3 2- 6-96 Port of Spain Martinique 2-1 Caribbean 96 Sf
5 3 15- 6-96 Santo Domingo Dominican Rep. 4-1 World Cup
6 3 6 23- 6-96 Port of Spain Dominican Rep. 8-0 World Cup
7 6 1- 9-96 Port of Spain Costa Rica 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
8 6 24-11-96 Port of Spain USA 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
9 6 8-12-96 Los Angeles Guatemala 1-2 World Cup
10 6 21-12-96 Cartago Costa Rica 1-2 World Cup Qualifier
11 6 23-11-97 Port of Spain Jamaica 0-0
12 1 7 18-12-97 Fort de France Martinique 2-3
13 1 8 4- 1-98 Bridgetown Barbados 1-0
14 8 21- 1-98 San Salvador El Salvador 0-2
15 8 23- 1-98 Guatemala City Guatemala 1-3
16 8 28- 1-98 San Jose Costa Rica 0-4
17 2 10 1- 2-98 Oakland Honduras 3-1 Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
18 10 4- 2-98 Oakland Mexico 2-4 Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
19 1 11 22- 7-98 Port of Spain Antigua/Barb. 3-2 Caribbean 98 Rd 1
20 2 13 24- 7-98 Port of Spain Martinique 2-1 Caribbean 98 Rd 1
21 4 17 26- 7-98 Port of Spain Dominica 8-0 Caribbean 98 Rd 1
22 2 19 29- 7-98 Port of Spain Haiti 4-1 Caribbean 98 Sf
23 1 20 31- 7-98 Port of Spain Jamaica 1-2 Caribbean 98 Final
24 1 21 28- 3-99 Port of Spain Jamaica 2-0
25 1 22 6- 5-99 Port of Spain South Africa 2-0
26 1 23 3- 6-99 Port of Spain Jamaica 1-0 Caribbean 99 Rd 1
27 1 24 11- 6-99 Port of Spain Haiti 6-1 Caribbean 99 Sf
28 1 25 13- 6-99 Port of Spain Cuba 2-1 Caribbean 99 Final
29 3 28 8- 9-99 Miami Colombia 4-3
30 2 30 17-11-99 Tegucigalpa Honduras 2-3
31 30 7- 5-00 Port of Spain Haiti 3-1 World Cup Qualifier
32 30 19- 5-00 Port au Prince Haiti 1-1 World Cup Qualifier
33 30 8- 7-00 Port of Spain Jamaica 2-4
34 30 3- 9-00 Port of Spain Canada 4-0 World Cup Qualifier
35 1 31 25- 2-01 Grand Cayman Cayman Isl. 3-0
36 31 28- 2-01 Kingston Jamaica 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
37 31 24- 3-01 Port of Spain Guatemala 3-1
38 31 28- 3-01 Alajuela Costa Rica 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
39 31 25- 4-01 Port of Spain Mexico 1-1 World Cup Qualifier
40 2 33 15- 5-01 Arima Barbados 5-0 Caribbean 2001 Rd 1
41 33 17- 5-01 Port of Spain Jamaica 2-1 Caribbean 2001 Rd 1
42 1 34 22- 5-01 Port of Spain Cuba 2-0 Caribbean 2001 Sf
43 34 25- 5-01 Port of Spain Haiti 3-0
44 34 10- 6-01 S.Francisco(P) Panama 0-0
45 1 35 16- 6-01 Port of Spain Honduras 2-4 World Cup
46 35 20- 6-01 Boston USA 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
47 2 37 23- 6-01 Prospect Bermuda 5-0
48 1 38 30- 6-01 Port of Spain Jamaica 1-2 World Cup
49 38 1- 9-01 Port of Spain Costa Rica 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
50 38 5- 9-01 Mexico City Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
51 1 39 7-10-01 San Pedro Sula Honduras 1-0 World Cup
52 39 11-11-01 Port of Spain USA 0-0 World Cup
53 1 40 20- 1-02 Miami Costa Rica 1-1 Gold Cup Rd 1
54 40 22- 1-02 Miami Martinique 0-1 Gold Cup Rd 1
55 1 41 26- 3-03 Port of Spain Antigua 2-0 Gold Cup Qualifier
56 1 42 28- 3-03 Tunapuna Guadeloupe 1-0 Gold Cup
57 1 43 30- 3-03 Marabella Cuba 1-3 Gold Cup Qualifier
58 2 45 3- 7-03 Port of Spain Venezuela 2-2
59 45 10- 9-03 Marrakesh Morocco 0-2
60 1 46 31- 3-04 Cairo Egypt 1-2
61 2 48 23- 5-04 West Bromwich Iraq 2-0
62 1 49 30- 5-04 Edinburgh Scotland 1-4
63 49 6- 6-04 Bacolet N. Ireland 0-3
64 1 50 13- 6-04 Santo Domingo Dominican Rep. 2-0 World Cup
65 1 51 20- 6-04 Marabella Dominican Rep. 4-0 World Cup
66 51 18- 8-04 Kingstown St.Vincent/Gr. 2-0 World Cup
67 1 52 4- 9-04 Basseterre St.Kitts/Nevis 2-1 World Cup
68 1 53 8- 9-04 Port of Spain Mexico 1-3 World Cup Qualifier
69 2 55 10-10-04 Marabella St.Kitts/Nevis 5-1 World Cup
70 55 13-10-04 Puebla Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
71 55 1- 2-05 Port of Spain Haiti 1-0
72 1 56 3- 2-05 Port of Spain Haiti 2-1
73 56 6- 2-05 Scarborough Haiti 0-1
74 56 9- 2-05 Port of Spain United States 1-2 World Cup
75 56 26- 3-05 Cd. Guatemala Guatemala 1-5 World Cup
76 56 30- 3-05 Port of Spain Costa Rica 0-0 World Cup
77 1 57 25- 5-05 Port of Spain Bermuda 4-0
78 1 58 27- 5-05 Marabella Bermuda 1-0
79 1 59 4- 6-05 Port of Spain Panama 2-0 World Cup
80 59 8- 6-05 Monterrey Mexico 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
81 59 6- 7-05 Miami Honduras 1-1 Gold Cup
82 59 10- 7-05 Miami Panama 2-2 Gold Cup
83 59 12- 7-05 Miami Colombia 0-2 Gold Cup
84 59 17- 8-05 East Hartford United States 0-1 World Cup
85 2 61 3- 9-05 Port of Spain Guatemala 3-2 World Cup Qual.
86 61 7- 9-05 San José Costa Rica 0-2 World Cup Qual.
87 1 62 8-10-05 Cd. de Panamá Panama 1-0 World Cup
88 2 64 12-10-05 Port of Spain Mexico 2-1 World Cup Qual.
89 64 12-11-05 Port of Spain Bahrain 1-1 World Cup Qual.
90 64 16-11-05 Manama Bahrain 1-0 World Cup Qual.
91 64 1- 3-06 London Iceland 2-0
92 64 10-05-06 Port of Spain Peru 1-1
Total record
Matches Won Draw Lost For Against Points Percentage
92 46 12 34 160 - 118 104 56.52
Types of Goals
Matches Goals
Friendlies 31 23
World Cup Qualifiers 38 18
Gold Cup 7 3
Gold Cup Qualifiers 3 3
Caribbean Cup 13 17
Total 92 64
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now for all d ppl who say kenweyne jones not getting a fair chance... let's look at his club record...
he played in the same division as stern last season, started the season with a settled place with his team unlike Stern, overall PLAYED MORE GAMES THAN STERN AND SCORED LEST THAN HALF THE GOALS STERN SCORED IN THE SEASON [bTRUE OR FALSE?][/b]
SHOULD WE START HIM OVER STERN????
now, as for all d peopl who say Stern dont do shit... in the Peru game, Latas throw away in d first mintue, who set him up, I GUESS IT WASN'T STERN JOHN?
in the wales game latas curl a shot wide, who set him, I GUESS IT WASN'T STERN JOHN CUZ ALL HE DOES DO IS THROW AWAY RIGHT???'
Stern John is not the best player to watch, he may not seem to be the most hardworking striker on teh team buh he is head and shoulders the best easily...
Now he play shit 2day, i eh go lie, buh i eh see the whole game, it's easy to say we should play somebody else, buh when he's on his game he's the best, it's a friendly not the end of the world, the whole team looked lackluster fromw hat i saw, buh we created chances and at least he got into positions to take dem, tho he didn't, let's see if we could move on from here...
i telling ppl i wouldn't know how well we'd do until saturday...
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Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level. Latas missing to much too. As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve. He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple: I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen. Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan. What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel? Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off? I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special. T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise. I feel so.
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TnT wagon hit ah speed bump and throw real man off dey. Damn that was hard to watch, but its even harder to read some of these post today. Like some man ready to sell dem ticket to Germany all kinda ah ting. Man cussing and complaining, is like ah who cuss more cares more mentality.
We lost 3-1 to Slovania, a team that beat Italy in WCQ. It have ah man yesterday who lost his chance to play in the world cup (spann) and he take it in a better stride. But we get our ass handed to us by a better side and the forum denegrates, with man fighting against man.
One man sounding as doh he proud that he always knew that Kenwyne is a shithound, that is nothing to be proud of bredda man. Another post dragging Bleeder thru de mud. I for one want the youths to do well, I want Stern to do well, I want us to do well. And I am pretty sure you want the same too, but emotions are hard to control.
That game was hard to watch and a poor performance overall. And everything is not well in TnT football camp, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I am not happy with how Stern and the defence played today, but hopefully they can learn from it in a short space of time.
Ya know..... de ting about a wagon is..... it slow!!!!!! so when yuh fall off..... just run real fast and jump back on again....
IF
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!
R. Kipling
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i like de bull pistle :devil:
So, dize wha a bull pistle look like?!? wheeeeeeeey, ah really did'n know what it look like even tho I felt one a long time ago when a police in San 'do hit meh wit one an ah end up runnin' full speed to de hospital to get treatment...........but de Doctor tell meh ah shoulda go San Fernando General Hospital, ah didn't have to run all de way to Port Of Spain. I feel if yuh lash dem men wit DAT.......dey go beat Brazil an' all!! ;D
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Touches u is someting else.. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record? What is Stern's? Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club? How many of those goals can help T&T win a game? IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.
Who has the better scoring record for T&T? Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)? The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
JEFFERZ, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.
Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.
Well here's the million dollar question:After proving that stern is so much of better at striking for T&T how come they ent call out stern to play for man u or aston villa or blackburn rovers or lemme see hear taking sydney fc to a championship,and by the way the rest of the world Knows about dwight yorke ah never hear them talk about stern,maybe at times recently with lower league coventry,so it's not who striking more for T&T but who's the better overall player and my vote is:DWIGHT YORKE.
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I just find it hard to believe that people here are honestly believing in the "playing dead to catch cobbo" explanation. People, the team playing shyte, some of the players aren't good enough for this level, some players aren't pulling their weight. That's it!!! Blind faith in the coach ain't gonna cut it either. We would all like to believe that Beenie has a master plan but, with a little more than a week to go, things aint looking too bright.
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Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level. Latas missing to much too. As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve. He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple: I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen. Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan. What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel? Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off? I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special. T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise. I feel so.
you hit de nail on de head perfectly dey fadder..only thing is glen was really injured..but he's been fully fit since the day before de wales game...and after talking to de man tonight..I'm taking back everything i said in my earlier posts in this thread...Mr.Beenhacker you is really a boss..and last but not least watch de drama come saturday :o
#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee
Care to expand on this.. PM me and give me de zeppo nuh..!!
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Time for Tough Love for #14
Bench He arse proper on Saturday vs Czech
Start Yorke upfront with Kenwyne.
Or Start Glenn and Scotland/Kenwyne.
Let him know he place
Let him know he hadda perform.
last thing....doe feel the Slovenia loss have me so.
Is every game we play Since Bahrain have me so.
Peru and Wales were both poor performances.
Imagine a no name striker who now start to play for Slovenia come and score a hatrick on we....and Slovenia ent play nuttin...no brand, no purpose, no knock.
In fact I vex alyuh ent see the first half....so yuh woulda understand where I coming from.
but anyhow watch and see.......TT go win or draw this game that we are supposed to lose.....fuss we roundabout.
If not we collecting more than 4 in this game.
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Time for Tough Love for #14
Bench He arse proper on Saturday vs Czech
Start Yorke upfront with Kenwyne.
Or Start Glenn and Scotland/Kenwyne.
Let him know he place
Let him know he hadda perform.
last thing....doe feel the Slovenia loss have me so.
Is every game we play Since Bahrain have me so.
Peru and Wales were both poor performances.
Imagine a no name striker who now start to play for Slovenia come and score a hatrick on we....and Slovenia ent play nuttin...no brand, no purpose, no knock.
In fact I vex alyuh ent see the first half....so yuh woulda understand where I coming from.
but anyhow watch and see.......TT go win or draw this game that we are supposed to lose.....fuss we roundabout.
If not we collecting more than 4 in this game.
Like yuh cover all yuh bases dey pardnah ;D
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Does anyone have Stern's stats breckdown i.e. Goals against Mexico, USA, Costa Rico, (St Kitts,Antigua,St Lucia)?
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I ain't go lie, that mortal combat anology was real funny :rotfl:
but seriously give d number 14 thing a rest, get over it. this so called worst thing in tugs is we best hope, so u might as well get used to it for now!!!
thanks
nonsense ... #14 is the only number we have tried in actual combat ... come on ... i go chip in tuh by de senna ... an ah know whey tuh get good shining bush
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It have plenty men on here will eat dey words in due time
When dat time come
ah go re-post links and den provide ah BIG bottle ah matouks ketchup fuh dem to swallow de crow wit
Dats right matouks...ah wouldnt eevn spen de extra dollar and give yuh de option of ah bottle of Heinz
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That is quite alright...
In fact if that is what it takes to make them fellas play good I shoulda cuss them right tru.
If #14 need to read a 4cup from me to score a goal. I would pen some winners every day just to get him vex and inspire him to score.
I want the side do well...I want the man score....I want the defence to hold up.
But pampering them and acting like we doe have a problem doe wuk so with me.
BTW a stew crow and provison or a bake an fry crow does eat real good...I am eagerly awaiting
But Dutty...when yuh bring the ketchup make sure its not mabel please...and add some Royal Castle pepper sauce to it, thanks!
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Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level. Latas missing to much too. As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve. He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple: I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen. Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan. What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel? Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off? I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special. T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise. I feel so.
Hey, most times i does just read and doh post...buh i have to agree with preacher .... look how Beenie rile up England saying how they is under acheivers etc...and now he have our players playing out of position and dis-organised.....maybe/ hopefully he just trying to fake them out...i know the commentator yesterday done get "fool" about we already.
I find Stern does throw way tooo much goals... i know he score most for us in the past, but he really needs to put away the few chances we may get against big sides like England Sweden etc.
Wha allyuh think about Carlos Edwards playing a more attacking role instead of the wing...? - taking on defenders with skill and speed and then shooting? He ever play a role like that b4?
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Touches yuh damn right if dat joker :joker: de put away he chances we coulda even win the match but de boy shitty! :bs:
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Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level. Latas missing to much too. As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve. He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple: I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen. Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan. What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel? Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off? I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special. T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise. I feel so.
you hit de nail on de head perfectly dey fadder..only thing is glen was really injured..but he's been fully fit since the day before de wales game...and after talking to de man tonight..I'm taking back everything i said in my earlier posts in this thread...Mr.Beenhacker you is really a boss..and last but not least watch de drama come saturday :o
#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee
#8 ... give we a bligh nah ... mankinda losing he mind here ... oh gawd pardna ... ah know dem E ppl and de swedes looking at we post tuh get info ... so yuh code put it in trini code ...nobody go know .... aaaaaahhhhhhhh
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Does anyone have Stern's stats breckdown i.e. Goals against Mexico, USA, Costa Rico, (St Kitts,Antigua,St Lucia)?
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html
Do the math yourself. ;)
I had worked this out one day. His strike rate is something like 0.69 goals per match.
Against Non Concacaf opponents its 11 in 16 around 0.68 goals per match
Unfortunately Stern has never scored against the US (0 in 5) and hasn't been very good against against Costa Rica (1 in 5) (but very few Trinidadians have since the Strike Squad was dismantled). He didn't score against Mexico until these qualifiers (3 goals in 7 matches) but his record against Honduras is great (6 in 5 matches). he hadn't scored against Guatemala until this round either (2 goals in 5 games) and same goes for Panama (2 goals in 4 games), He's also yet to score against Canada (0 in 1)
and El Salvador (0 in 1)
Thats 14 in 28 - 50%
Against Caribbean opposition his strike rate is around 80% He's scored 4 in 8 against the Jcans, 3 in 3 against Cuba and 5 in 9 against Haiti. He's scored 3 in 2 against St. Kitts, 0 in 1 against St. Vincent, 4 in 4 against MArtinique, 3 in 2 against Barbados. His other Caribbean matches are Bermuda (4 in 3) and Cayman Islands (1 in 1), Dominican Republic (5 in 4), Antigua (2 in 2)
Thats phenomenal anyway you look at it. If you want you could probably pull out all his matches against european opposition (3 in 6) to make a point but number 14 is a goalscorer, however you take it.
He should be good for at least one goal, possibly 2 during the world cup if he plays all three matches bet on Paraguay because he seems to prosper against South American teams... (3 in 2 against Colombia, 2 in 1 against Venezuela)
One could make an argument about England being better than Northern Ireland and Sweden being better than Finland and PAraguay being better than Colombia, but you can only score against the teams you play. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
Oh yes, he might actually need some help from his teammates ::)
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Oh ye of little or no faith, this is the same man who buss Mexico nets when the whole country was ponging him and he will be the same man to buss nets in the cup once he gets the chances and then it will be the same detractors who will be singing him the highest praises.
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
That Ship done leave de harbour!! :o
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
you're right about ali daei but actually number 2 is ferenc puskas and number 3 is pele an number 4 is kocsis, a hungarian who scored 11 goals in the WC in 54...
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
That Ship done leave de harbour!! :o
:o ;D
LAWD!! You does hit harder lash dan Stewie himself oui
AH bet yuh type dat wit ah British accent
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
you're right about ali daei but actually number 2 is ferenc puskas and number 3 is pele an number 4 is kocsis, a hungarian who scored 11 goals in the WC in 54...
I am trying to make a point not lay out stats. However, this is the information I have of all time top scorers in International Football. For your interest http://www.answers.com/topic/top-international-goal-scorers
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i realise that some men real biased,men arguing bout who score more goals between yorke and stern and all kinda shit,but that is not the point.men saying stern have record and score so many goals a long time ago but the thing is we need to deal with the present and right now stern not cutting it,as touches said earlier stern not helping,maybe u all should rad the post again cause touches broke it down very well.u can not afford to throw away those kinda of goals in the world cup especially with the way our defense playing,maybe be if some one else get the oppurtunities stern does get he would of broken the record a long time ago.so i agree #14 is the worse ting in a tugs
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anytime he get ah dose ah dat
he good to go
some hot guiness and a young pineapple
if all that fail
carry him by where the river does meet the sea, put him to kneel down in the water and beat him with a coceyea broom
boy that bredda is real shit boy
me eh go lie
I see Wise whip a ball across the goal all he need to do was stick out he foot and the man jes watch it go by
I different to all yuh yes
I rather play with 11 Birchall and Jones than have Stern on meh side
Leh meh lose with 11 fighters than raise meh pressure with that fool on meh side
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
Is only we Trini's does find ah way to put down we heroes and of all the players we choose to dis is the one that holds the international scoring record for TnT, for those dat want to overlook his ranking in the world fine go ahead but as far as TnT concern he has de most goals.Nobody saying or comparing Stern to Pele buh as far as puting de ball in de back ah de net for TnT Stern has his ranking,does dat say Stern is better dan Pele? hell no,buh de record is wat it is .I eh care who say or tink wat buh dis is real without out Stern John goals we not qualifing for de WC say wat yuh want bout team game and is all 11 count I agree buh without Stern goals we eh going no wey. All ah the experts on here who feel dey know better dan beenie man only bumpin dey gum and hiding behind de fact dat 'they entitled to dey opinion and daiz true, dey entitle to it,buh is ah shame wen you cud only use dah opinion to talk bout when #14 have ah bad game...check dis out... how come we talk bout de posivitive bout de man eh ? like de left foot in Panama (1-0) and before de game pleanty man bawlin we gone thru we cyar qualify again, Stern John is ah dis and dat all kind ah negative ting.how come we eh takling bout de 2 against Hondurus,how come we eh takling bot the vicious left foot for de winner against mexico not to mention #14 cudda score at least 5 including de penalty he thro way.
Say what you want about #14 without dem goals we eh going germany and daiz real.
Yow now is not de time to be putting down we players and talking bout when dis one throw way or dis one eh tackle or Shak eh good no more.....
we shud be proud ah these brothers proud ah wah dey accomplish for we as a nation,now eh time to find fault wit these brothers, now is time to rally and show yuh true colours,buh instead some ah we still feel de best way to contribute is to puh down de players like dat go help and give dem de extra boost/support/confidence dey need.
IMO is de ones dat want to criticize de team, after all dey accomplish and take we to the WC, dem is de ones who 'people go look at as a real dunce in de game'.
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Palos, over 2 years ago ah was chupid and ah mad man to see all this, up to pre last game...Now crunch time, ah sorry it have so much more chupid an mad ppl so...ah was hopin all this time ah was wrong....the man scores goals no denying that...but the man has not done the deed as he used to, and we cannot at this point depend on heart, gut, or even long term history, we have to go by performance....T&T must now be operating on all cylinders, not 10 of 11...but 23 on 23...it is our only hope...
I have ah ole coach here, and although he was rough as well as talented, although he is a cool and classy guy, and ah T&T football icon - he was never no best T&T representative....ah doh like the man any less, as yuh can tell by my eternal respect for him...
I repeat, before we go into this final stretch...John's role must change, like Yorke's, like Latapy, like Spann, or Wise, or everybody....BeenE is the man to decide how, but as the target striker alone, it has not happened for to long...he will score, cause he is Stern "bong to score" John, but coach and he have to set things in place that all the responsibilty is not on his back alone, cause as strong as dah horse is, he is not as young or totally healthy as he once was...
Remember years ago, I also said, I would rather not get to WC if we are to get there and be embarassed....Man say...nah WC is it...getting there go put we on the map...I said, if we go get there and be made to look like clowns, ppl will know us alright, but may think of T&T (in football circles ofcourse) as a clown factory, with an occassional blip like a Yorke, Latapy etc...It would not bode well for our game....Well, ah get good cuss for that one..... and still hope ah wrong....
but the truth is, ah doh care who play for we as long as they perform to the best of their ability or at least try...even if we are going to get sampat(sp) ah hope we go take it with every ounce of our being fighting against it...so we would be known to be warriors whether successful or not...come next wknd, these guys will represent what is T&T for the next
...til eternity...So all the Johns, Jacks and Jills better get they act together fast...cause since they choose to represent me, they chose to be Warriors...if not physical performance,complimentary results, at least in Spirit
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All yuh bump all yuh gum how much all yuh want without Stern John TnT eh going to germany and dat is the plain truth, try all yuh want to change it, say wat yuh want bout de man buh if Stern John doh score Trini doh win ,without him we was'nt going to no WC....stop hating and deal wid it
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Didnt need ah whole new thread for this tho. !
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All yuh bump all yuh gum how much all yuh want without Stern John TnT eh going to germany and dat is the plain truth, try all yuh want to change it, say wat yuh want bout de man buh if Stern John doh score Trini doh win ,without him we was'nt going to no WC....stop hating and deal wid it
Aye go and read Ato post on de performance yesterday... de man is streaky and will put tears in allyuh eyes.... joy and sadness
High highs and Low lows with he yes! PRESSURE
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All yuh bump all yuh gum how much all yuh want without Stern John TnT eh going to germany and dat is the plain truth, try all yuh want to change it, say wat yuh want bout de man buh if Stern John doh score Trini doh win ,without him we was'nt going to no WC....stop hating and deal wid it
Aye go and read Ato post on de performance yesterday... de man is streaky and will put tears in allyuh eyes.... joy and sadness
High highs and Low lows with he yes! PRESSURE
like how ato puh water in TnT eyes ....
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.
Had Stern also converted all he chances we woulda be tru in the 2nd or third spot and not even play Bahrain.
When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert......for his sake and for the nation.
A created opportunity is nothing without the finish.
This is not the time for hard luck...better next time!
It is time to Deliver!......show we that yuh ready and show we yuh in form.
This is not only for Stern this is for every player on the side. get alyuh act together.
But Stern has been given the most amount of leeway....for want of a better word, given his performances.
If any other player were given the same opportunity he has to play shit and still know yuh starting next game yuh does ask yuhself what if?
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert.
I agree he shud'nt take dar penalty buh why you choose to talk bout de miss penalty why yuh eh talk bout the 2 goals he score after dat for we to win,either yuh eh fair or yuh just eh like de man buh as far as scoring goals for Trinidad de best ting we have is Stern John and until another player comes along and do better Stern is de man.
p.s yuh also forget to mention he score twice in de last games ...
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"This #14 come like the youth who playing mortal combat in the arcade and cyar beat the first opponent. He only wasting tokens, wasting tokens over and over and no amount of feeding getting him better."
AHHAHAHAHAHHHA AH Love it!!! (Sorry Andre Samuel).
And friggin Kenwyne just beat Street Fighter II with 1 coin that he sprang from a smally. (The original one with 8 players - that is the baddest) and put all kinda hand cuff move with Guile and thing, and now meh boy Jones waiting for lame John to beat Mortal Kombat I and John have 55 more coins and he still playing with Sub Zero and trying to play cheap by freezing and upper cutting and still losing in the first rounds and he losing to Sonya all the time!!! Ahahahhahahah I understand meh boy Touches!!! ;D :D
Jones and Scott just waiting with 1 coin between them to take turns mashing up people with Scorpion taking turns each round to easily conquer the game, but John's wealthy guardian Leo will not let them show their true talent and persists sponsoring John's coins!!! :( :o
Ah don't love it!
J.
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert.
Oh Touches, Dont say such mean things! Dont you know Stern might come online, despite the fact hes got serious prepartions to perform, and read these comments with a tear in his eye?!
He will cry when he reads themm and it will hurt his feelings. We need to create an artificial world for our players where they can think they can play like shit and still get results! We have to be postivive!
Stern, you are the greatest footballer in the world. There, that should give him a boost to score a goal! Now lets go skipping in the garden and when results dont come during the WC, we will act stunned! :rotfl:
STERN, GET IT TOGETHER, . Im pulling for you! (see, i kept it postitive at the end there!)
Bottom line is, Stern will hopefully come thru in the WC, but friendlies have a purpose, and its not to set yourself up for a cold snap.
Give KENWYNE a RUN. He will shine.
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Alright lemme state meh stance once and for all.
I find Stern is a Shithound.
His past record means nothing to me.
I does get upset watching him throw away chances that men sweat they arse off to create.
I doe like he attitude on the field to he fellow players and to the fans.
I find like he does move like he doe try and he does be coasting in we national colours.
I find Stern even when he score doe be playing good and I wish he would work on other aspects of his game.
No one ever raise my pressure like he.....make me cuss like he.
It is because I so want him and the TT team to do well that I does get vex so.
That said....
He is our top scorer.
He have TT where we are.....and yes I am eternally greatful to him and his contribution.
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I loved your post supporter hahahahaha!! Let's all go skipping in the park hahahahah.
J.
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I wonder if men really, really, really, really believe dat there is some kinda 'master plan" de coach could possibly reveal, to make dis team improve by the leaps and bounds it will require, to beat England and Sweden in the next couple weeks.
Men talk bout miracles and good luck. And I here wondering, where the hell is miracles and good luck when people starving to death all over the place and people gettin lick-up everyday. So why is de Trini football team so deserving dat miracles and good luck go suddenly spring to the rescue in the next couple weeks.
The fact is, this same team that lost to Wales and got ran over by Slovenia, would mash-up St. Vincent, Grenada and Panama. But the teams we tackling now, and the ones on our horizon, are not St. Vincent, Grenada and Panama. Hell, they even struggled with Bahrain. beenie man doh have no magic wand. De players he working with only have their current capabilities. This team could only do so good. Men here have taken into consideration that we qualified for the WC and used that fact to project expectations far beyond this team's capabilities. Oh gosh, just look at how we qualified nah. Yuh go see my point. this team coulda never, never, run with the world's elite teams, not even the world's mid-level teams. All yuh does call the US ah shit team, and we cyah even beat dem.
Dem fellas doing dey best out dey. What yuh seein is dey best. Accept it or not, dat is dey best. But doh matter what, is still we team. So f*ck it. Let we try and enjoy de ride regardless. Make noise and show we support. But we have lix to get.
Go ahead, call me ah waggonist. I doh give ah f*&k. I talkin de trute.
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Alright lemme state meh stance once and for all.
I find Stern is a Shithound.
His past record means nothing to me.
I does get upset watching him throw away chances that men sweat they arse off to create.
I doe like he attitude on the field to he fellow players and to the fans.
I find like he does move like he doe try and he does be coasting in we national colours.
I find Stern even when he score doe be playing good and I wish he would work on other aspects of his game.
No one ever raise my pressure like he.....make me cuss like he.
It is because I so want him and the TT team to do well that I does get vex so.
That said....
He is our top scorer.
He have TT where we are.....and yes I am eternally greatful to him and his contribution.
yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Doh take on dem men breda. I wonder if some of these does even think. I would concede that it never wise to blindly support anybody but it is even less wise to throw away silver because it is not gold. Let's put a few things into perspective. For all of the noise being made we seem to forget that this country only has 1.3 million people. We never qualified for the World Cup before 2005 and our pedigree in this, the WORLD'S Game has never been formidable. Perhaps flex or palos could help me out here but how many professionals do we have ,and how many of them are decent enough to play international football ? More specifically ,how many strikers do we have who can realistically perform well when we face Sweden, England and Paraguay. All kinds of crazy names can be generated form that question.
Here is my opinion. A coach with nothing short of a World Class CV and reputation came to this country with such limited human capital in comparision to most of the teams in the hex and moved this team from 1 point after 3 to 13 points after 10. Along the way there were no crazy names playing striker, there was only Stern John who scored 6 goals in 7 games. If this coach watching men in every training session could consistently pick you it is probably a good indication that you are most valuable player to your team in that position.
I've said it before and I'll say it again I don't even like the way Stern plays but the facts cannot escape my logic .THE MAN SCORES GOALS. Dem men who want to move Stern thinking in the wonderful world of if. The man is the leading goal scorer in the nation's history. He scored 90 % of all the clutch goals during qualifying and men still want to give him the axe. My God !
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Slates,
I like the post but I have to disagree with just one lil point.
THAT IS NOT THE BEST THEM FELLAS COULD PLAY.
All of them could give more, all of them could put out more and even if we get licks one they showing effort I go be happy.
Remember the 2-0 vs mexico and we was proud of the fellas....We could lose and keep we head high.
But we losing and yuh could see we playing tata.
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So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?
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Yeah but if he aint performing what are we suppose to do? :'(
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.
Had Stern also converted all he chances we woulda be tru in the 2nd or third spot and not even play Bahrain.
When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert......for his sake and for the nation.
A created opportunity is nothing without the finish.
This is not the time for hard luck...better next time!
It is time to Deliver!......show we that yuh ready and show we yuh in form.
This is not only for Stern this is for every player on the side. get alyuh act together.
But Stern has been given the most amount of leeway....for want of a better word, given his performances.
If any other player were given the same opportunity he has to play shit and still know yuh starting next game yuh does ask yuhself what if?
u really blaming stern for us not making d 2002 WC?????????????????
im thinking ur just a hater :-[
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sprog that is the question of the day.
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who else is going to score??
why didnt scotty score his??
why didnt collin score his in wales
why didnt jones score his in wales??
stern john is a god send to trinidad
no one supports him harder than me
i aint sayin he cudna a score dem chances but is it stern john againts slovenia of tnt vs slovenia
i go stay with his hold up play
his running into space
his immaculate touch
his poachers instinct any day befor i start sumone else
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Sprog ah go fawking dead!! :rotfl:
Rubbish... Send she tail packing yes!! LOL
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So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?
I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???
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it songs like the hex all over again, especialyy after we played the US....
i said it then and i say it now....
I BELIEVE IN STERN...
KENWEYNE JONES IS COSTUME JEWELLRY... he's not ready...
and touches what chances you tallking bout in 2002 qualifers... hoss our attack was extremely lackluster in dat hex, speaking of which i remember a certain shitsnake hitting a honduran a spanner den hitting it to the inside corner with his left foot for our only win of that tourney... ah well, we trinis have short memories...
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[So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing . case close.
NAH!!!
I had to log back een for dat one. :rotfl:
Ah could feel de venom with which dat statement is TYPED, like it happen for real :rotfl:
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???
No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
I don't know how that analogy found its way into a football disscussion. None of the variables are compatible. You equate a national top scorer missing some chances and perhaps half chances in a friendly to woman horning a man and then you say, case close. Steups !
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Yeah but if he aint performing what are we suppose to do? :'(
who not performing stern come nah man. if u was down ond e defense i mighter suport u but de man scoring allyuh cnat expoect him to score every chance he get no one does dat. the man scoring..we need other peope besides hima nd birchie to score regulalrly now and we defense to act liek that ah defense and nto like they selling guns
Organic yuh have 2 remember is Trinis yuh talking to, Stern have to score every match for dem or he eh good , and there are times he does score every match, like panama, hondurus and mexico buh when he eh score he's ah shithound yuh must realize we as Trinis doh recognize what we have until they gone we only know how to pong we own and doh know when to give praise.....we is de only nation dat qualify for de world cup and and finding fault with we team and putting dem down ...like we expect now we qualify we have to beat Brazil or we is shithounds all de time we just glad to qualify buh now people expect miracles and if dey doh happen we have ah shit team ..by some of the negative post on here yuh go tink TnT better off not going to de WC ....only ah bunch ah negative vibes ...
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
but by essence what u saying is, that if a man play d worst game of his life despite having having pllayed exceptionally, head and shoulders above d rest of the team ( i not saying this is stern) and cuz he had one bad game yuh go buss he throat, hoss u tallk rel shit dey...
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???
No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
hoss so what u saying is if a man play d worst game of his life after playing d best in his team for d whole year he automatically getting drop ( i not saying this applys to stern..., hoss u talk shit dey....
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
I don't know how that analogy found its way into a football disscussion. None of the variables are compatible. You equate a national top scorer missing some chances and perhaps half chances in a friendly to woman horning a man and then you say, case close. Steups !
all yuh totally missing the point, i am saying gratitude and emotions should never be a factor when selecting and/or conducting an analysis on a football team. That is why Germany wise up now there want results so they had to remove Kahn as the number one keeper, Lehman better than him for a little while now but Kahn is the hero.
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The title of the thread is NOT called for
if allya dont like how a player plays, could you have some CLASS in your critisism of that player who is wearing our National team Kit.
It makes me sad that we feel we have to drop to the lowest common denominator and come up with that title.
REALLY people have some CLASS. Come on allya really think that is OK ???
Well pardna, do I have some advise for you.
Get yourself a wad of tissue... and keep it close over the next few days... and weeks, becuz you will need it. It bout to RAIN sadness. :rotfl:
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So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?
I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....
Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.
Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.
Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.
Respectfully submitted.
Touches
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Yeah but if he aint performing what are we suppose to do? :'(
who not performing stern come nah man. if u was down ond e defense i mighter suport u but de man scoring allyuh cnat expoect him to score every chance he get no one does dat. the man scoring..we need other peope besides hima nd birchie to score regulalrly now and we defense to act liek that ah defense and nto like they selling guns
Organic yuh have 2 remember is Trinis yuh talking to, Stern have to score every match for dem or he eh good , and there are times he does score every match, like panama, hondurus and mexico buh when he eh score he's ah shithound yuh must realize we as Trinis doh recognize what we have until they gone we only know how to pong we own and doh know when to give praise.....we is de only nation dat qualify for de world cup and and finding fault with we team and putting dem down ...like we expect now we qualify we have to beat Brazil or we is shithounds all de time we just glad to qualify buh now people expect miracles and if dey doh happen we have ah shit team ..by some of the negative post on here yuh go tink TnT better off not going to de WC ....only ah bunch ah negative vibes ...
All I want is de boys to go out have heart and do their best.Thus far in the friendlys we have not seen it.(I know experimenting etc but de concentarion lapses should not be there at this stage).
Yes we might hold some licks if we play our best but at least we will get respect from the rest of the football world etc and de fellahs could hold dey head high..talk done
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[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???
No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
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Im not going to lie that is a very good point.But d fact of the matter is that stern is the best we have, trinidad is not real madrid, we dont have no robhino on d bench waiting to come on. we have jones and he not ready yet. also y is men calling for stern to bench when he have a bad games an no one calling on andrews or any of the other defenders to bench, we have to be one of the weakest defences in d world cup. if u want to critcize be fair dont single out one man
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Alright lemme state meh stance once and for all.
I find Stern is a Shithound.
His past record means nothing to me.
I does get upset watching him throw away chances that men sweat they arse off to create.
I doe like he attitude on the field to he fellow players and to the fans.
I find like he does move like he doe try and he does be coasting in we national colours.
I find Stern even when he score doe be playing good and I wish he would work on other aspects of his game.
No one ever raise my pressure like he.....make me cuss like he.
It is because I so want him and the TT team to do well that I does get vex so.
That said....
He is our top scorer.
He have TT where we are.....and yes I am eternally greatful to him and his contribution.
that is a good post... i would go as far to say that he is a shithound . but o gorm man.....give jones the chance... i reading man saying jones is a shit hound...... :o what part... jones could play every position on the field. the man is a boss....
it is hurt me to watch matches where John not running and if yuh doh put the ball to he foot.. he done play.....i thought that was over in the mexico game.. but it like it come back.
No matter how many goals the man score... he not performing like he want to add to that total .. so show him.. let someone else try...if they throw way.. that suppose to hurt him from the bench when he see it. How alyuh go follow a player blindly...."well he have so many goals so he hadda be we saviour" them goals he score in Gold Cup and Shell Cup in 9? mean nuthin now... how many he score against Jamaica and cuba or even the US mean nuthin......if yuh not performing, give many chances presently, give another the SAME oppotunity, not 30 mins less or as a left wing or withdrawn striker.
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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WestCoast if yuh offended by the title....yuh shoulda read meh match report bout yuh player a few months ago...complete with toilet, snake and goat images.
Check the archives nah see what yuh dig up.
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i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.
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i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.
true. but its more frustrating when guys here single out one guy for d failure of d 23 man TEAM.
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Look who going off the point now, I with my girl eleven years now and i aint get no horn :clown:at least that i know about and infact Stern did try to lime mih girl ah time in ah club but he get blank, whan he start playing in the premiership i laugh she and tell she is best she de lime with the man, but that is besides the point. :rotfl:
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Look who going off the point now, I with my girl eleven years now and i aint get no horn :clown:at least that i know about and infact Stern did try to lime mih girl ah time in ah club but he get blank, whan he start playing in the premiership i laugh she and tell she is best she de lime with the man, but that is besides the point. :rotfl:
just kidding Sprog :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.
true. but its more frustrating when guys here single out one guy for d failure of d 23 man TEAM.
Yuh need to read other threads, men real pound some of them other fellas like Cyd, Lawrence, Dwight and all.
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Look who going off the point now, I with my girl eleven years now and i aint get no horn :clown:at least that i know about and infact Stern did try to lime mih girl ah time in ah club but he get blank, whan he start playing in the premiership i laugh she and tell she is best she de lime with the man, but that is besides the point. :rotfl:
just kidding Sprog :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Ah know brother i could take mih talks :rotfl: :rotfl:
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i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.
So sprog you was playing devil's advocate all this time ? It sounding like a cop out to me.
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The man real good and dat is why he does get me so vex, i find he could run off the ball a bit more, tidy up he finishing and we good. Early this season i think it may be when he was on loan the fans of the club i think it might be Derby County was booing him because of his perfomances and what appeared to be a lazy work rate. What is the saying again " ten thousand frenchmen could never be wrong."
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So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?
I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....
Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.
Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.
Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.
Respectfully submitted.
Touches
Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.
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i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.
So sprog you was playing devil's advocate all this time ? It sounding like a cop out to me.
Trust me i love debating and i believe i made my case but once again emotion has blinded you'll from seeing my point, which still remains. I never questioned his ability, i am questioning his current performances and recommending although its probably too late for that, but if Beenie had at least made him feel his starting position was under threat, we would have seen the Stern John we all love.
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So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?
I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....
Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.
Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.
Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.
Respectfully submitted.
Touches
Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.
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Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.
Nobody denyin the man is not one of the keys to our success Berris...but since he playing a pile.......
Breds I eagerly await this true knowledge of the game that you possess.
and as for Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and anyone else who is visually impaired.
Thank yuh blessings yuh never see a Stern John throw away....... because yuh pressure might raise and heart might fail yuh after.
BTW, Berris....give it up nah, nuttin you type here, could sway me from my view that Stern is a pothound who does throw away.
Cool scene, we go agree to disagree.
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So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?
I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....
Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.
Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.
Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.
Respectfully submitted.
Touches
Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.
I not to sure bout dat nah ... an iz not becasue he playi a pile ah tata ... is because de will get mark outta de game ... an don't have the aggression tuh break free ... if he jus drop back fuh de ball little bit it go be harder tuh mark de man ... but he only want ball to he foot ...he hatta pick up he work rate ... he hatta play like he vex ... an like he know Beenie go bench him becasue the forumites done talk
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Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.
Nobody denyin the man is not one of the keys to our success Berris...but since he playing a pile.......
Breds I eagerly await this true knowledge of the game that you possess.
and as for Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and anyone else who is visually impaired.
Thank yuh blessings yuh never see a Stern John throw away....... because yuh pressure might raise and heart might fail yuh after.
BTW, Berris....give it up nah, nuttin you type here, could sway me from my view that Stern is a pothound who does throw away.
Cool scene, we go agree to disagree.
Touches I eh trying to convince you or anybody bout Stern , everyone entitled to their opinion and I have seen Stern play i've seen him both throw way and score but the memories of his performance is a good one for me because all the goals finally pay off and now we where we never dream we cud get too the WC and for dat I respect the whole team especially Stern and he has to get meh praises ...somebody have to recognizse he's we best goal scorer ever TnT ever had,that must say something bout de man....
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It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem. ~G.K. Chesterton
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Trust me i love debating and i believe i made my case but once again emotion has blinded you'll from seeing my point, which still remains. I never questioned his ability, i am questioning his current performances and recommending although its probably too late for that, but if Beenie had at least made him feel his starting position was under threat, we would have seen the Stern John we all love.
I don't understand what you mean by "your case".
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Is this your case ?
No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
Or is this your case ?
The one that was so easily refuted by berris. Where is our Cassano or Robinho or Baptista of the bench ? The way you articulated your ideas was misleading. You presented your argument with fire and brimstone saying "send she tail packing" colloquially expressed to vent as you say, your condemnation of Stern's recent performances. You then proceed to justify your utterances after people laugh at your logic by saying more or less that "it's because you care". It sounded more like a cop out than any thing else and it was my emotions telling me so.
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Stern for striker...plain and simple...all who cud do better than dat man, put on a tugs, and reach where he reach and do what he do, then u cud talk, until then alyuh talkin a bag ah arse in my book
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Whey sah.... I never see d emotions of many dictated by one man so, well one thing we all know is dat he going to play, he going to start. In Stern John we rest our ability to score. May the lord bless him and his foot and he big head to come up trumps for us. I remember post Gold Cup when men was in similar mood. He was out of form then, if anytime to be out of form is now. All it takes is one strike at the right time and d cuss go done, d calls for Jones and Scotland and Glen go done. Legendary status will regained.
I tired argue over something I have no control over.
He don't miss on purpose.
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He bong to score.........and it will be with his left foot for Micky!!
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Trust me i love debating and i believe i made my case but once again emotion has blinded you'll from seeing my point, which still remains. I never questioned his ability, i am questioning his current performances and recommending although its probably too late for that, but if Beenie had at least made him feel his starting position was under threat, we would have seen the Stern John we all love.
I don't understand what you mean by "your case".
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Is this your case ?
No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
Or is this your case ?
The one that was so easily refuted by berris. Where is our Cassano or Robinho or Baptista of the bench ? The way you articulated your ideas was misleading. You presented your argument with fire and brimstone saying "send she tail packing" colloquially expressed to vent as you say, your condemnation of Stern's recent performances. You then proceed to justify your utterances after people laugh at your logic by saying more or less that "it's because you care". It sounded more like a cop out than any thing else and it was my emotions telling me so.
Case is there for all to see he playing sh*t, he capable of more, what we suppose to do leave him to start all the games i f he continue so or give someone else a try and ruffle he feathers a bit. Last time when i see Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench.He replied with goals, so dats de point.
Yuh feel if i did not love my team i would even be here, parents does have to punish they kids too -ent they love them?
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Sprog I never say you ent love the team I say is that what you said was in the first instance illogical and in the second instance misleading daiz all.
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Don Leo is giving the team exactly the testing we need and baptism of fire we need to wake up. This is what we can expect come June 10th and we better be ready.
Ato should have gone over there and give them some sprint training, that is what's going to make the difference, SPEED. Our Defense are going to face some of the fastest men in the game and they cannot lapse
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I not to sure bout dat nah ... an iz not becasue he playi a pile ah tata ... is because de will get mark outta de game ... an don't have the aggression tuh break free ... if he jus drop back fuh de ball little bit it go be harder tuh mark de man ... but he only want ball to he foot ...he hatta pick up he work rate ... he hatta play like he vex ... an like he know Beenie go bench him becasue the forumites done talk
This is a brillaint observation. I sure people tell him that cause sometimes he does it and it works well for the rest of the team. I just find Stern doh look like he working hard enough. Anybody remember the Stern who used to turn either left or right on defenders and score with either foot. Anybody remember the Stern who almost lob the Mexican keeper. Where that Stern?
Men say they doh like Stern post up play. That is part of his talent. He have a decent first touch and he shields the ball well. He can also distribute when he trying. We know Whitley, Birchie, Dwight and Carlos have a decent shot. Let him lay it off for them. He have to stop loafing and come for the ball and contribute.
This side we have not going to beat no offside trap cause of how deep we going to have to play. Men need to unleash from outside. Stern have to start moving more off the ball and cyah get vex when he get a bad pass.
The man scoring streak for club happen after he come back from being on loan. It happen for TnT after nuff people bad talk him. He score and jeering the crowd. This thread come a lil to early. It shoulda start the day before the czech game.
Stern like licks to perform. Right now he not performing. In that Mexico game he had a lot of movement off the ball. Come on fellas give it to him! Light him up!
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Last time when i see Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench.He replied with goals, so dats de point.
Correction. The last time that Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench and Beenie kept faith in him
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Last time when i see Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench.He replied with goals, so dats de point.
Correction. The last time that Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench and Beenie kept faith in him
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Actually it was reported that Kenwyne Jones was going and start de Guatemala game... and Stern prayers down beenie....
Anybody remember dat...
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wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record? What is Stern's? Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club? How many of those goals can help T&T win a game? IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.
Who has the better scoring record for T&T? Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)? The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
JEFFERZ, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.
Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.
Well here's the million dollar question:After proving that stern is so much of better at striking for T&T how come they ent call out stern to play for man u or aston villa or blackburn rovers or lemme see hear taking sydney fc to a championship,and by the way the rest of the world Knows about dwight yorke ah never hear them talk about stern,maybe at times recently with lower league coventry,so it's not who striking more for T&T but who's the better overall player and my vote is:DWIGHT YORKE.
Ok so Yorke should have scored against Mexico then... or any other team during qualifying.
Allyuh really can't separate ManU, Aston Cillan, or Blackburn Rovers from T&T scoring eh??
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
cornell glen cornell glen
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
That Ship done leave de harbour!! :o
You know, if Yorke had 65 goals you same dunce heads would be glorifying him?!!
But because Stern and Latapy didn't play for ManU, do look at their statistics. Fact is Ali Daei has 109 which is more than Pele plain and simple. Stern has more goals than Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham etc. ANYHOW you look at it Stern HAS MORE GOALS.
Touches raised the point about #14 not doing well enough for T&T. I am raising the point that Stern has done more than any other footballer in the history of T&T in terms of scoring - and he is still scoring today.
YOU might not LIKE Stern, but he still has the record, and he still out performs ALL of the other so called strikers on T&T's team.
Hell... I wish some of you would learn to count. 65 is more than 15, or 28 or whatever anyone has ever scored for T&T!
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.
Why the HELL didn't Yorke get us to the world cup? He was scoring goals for ManU at that time and playing as a striker along side Stern. Who scored more? STERN.
Allyuh really ungrateful.
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.
Why the HELL didn't Yorke get us to the world cup? He was scoring goals for ManU at that time and playing as a striker along side Stern. Who scored more? STERN.
Allyuh really ungrateful.
I am not ungrateful... I have supported Stern John through and through... I still do... but if someone is doing shit yuh hadda give dem pressure... is the only way they can improve...
So sometimes yuh hadda allow men to have a go at him... ounce its constructive.
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All the talk about Stern doing shit and we seem to forget this is same man who scored less than a week ago. And which is worse Stern missing chances in the first half or watching a team play totally static football imagine men staying on the ball for close to 10 seconds in their defensive 3rd only to send a long pass and lose it. Allyuh is madmen yes. The worst thing you could see from that last game is Stern ? Steups ! How many times we try to progress up the field and man give the ball a heavy touch and lose the ball. But Stern doing shit ! It was a bad game and a massive failure on various levels. Let's move on.
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f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM
STERN 14!
PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS
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As i said......If stern used to do something else beside do de finishing after somebody else do the hard work, people wouldnt be on he back all now. But if you eh putting in dem chances yuh getting and yuh eh doing nutting else....effectively yuh wasting time. Either you do de lil bit wha yuh doing all de time or let somebody else do it. Stern while his record is phenomenal........hadda realise due to his game style scoring is all he does. If yuh eh doing dat....yuh eh making sense. It only have one way to hush people up.......score. Yuh running thin on patience. Do yuh wuk.
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f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM
STERN 14!
PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS
agreed x1000000000000
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
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As i said......If stern used to do something else beside do de finishing after somebody else do the hard work, people wouldnt be on he back all now. But if you eh putting in dem chances yuh getting and yuh eh doing nutting else....effectively yuh wasting time. Either you do de lil bit wha yuh doing all de time or let somebody else do it. Stern while his record is phenomenal........hadda realise due to his game style scoring is all he does. If yuh eh doing dat....yuh eh making sense. It only have one way to hush people up.......score. Yuh running thin on patience. Do yuh wuk.
sound like you want blood out ah big stone .......
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1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
That Ship done leave de harbour!! :o
You know, if Yorke had 65 goals you same dunce heads would be glorifying him?!!
But because Stern and Latapy didn't play for ManU, do look at their statistics. Fact is Ali Daei has 109 which is more than Pele plain and simple. Stern has more goals than Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham etc. ANYHOW you look at it Stern HAS MORE GOALS.
Touches raised the point about #14 not doing well enough for T&T. I am raising the point that Stern has done more than any other footballer in the history of T&T in terms of scoring - and he is still scoring today.
YOU might not LIKE Stern, but he still has the record, and he still out performs ALL of the other so called strikers on T&T's team.
Hell... I wish some of you would learn to count. 65 is more than 15, or 28 or whatever anyone has ever scored for T&T!
Excuse me! Where in my post did I say I did not like Stern? Read the post again, digest it and come back. You missed my point completly.
Look the Top goal scorer in Europe 06 Neemelo (Estonia), 05 Hokobian (Armenia), Lloyd Williams (Wales) etc etc. Now yes they top scored but they are not playing a League of teh same quality as Spain, Italy, Premiership etc. That was my only point. If you disagree with that argument then fine
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f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM
STERN 14!
PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS
agreed x1000000000000
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
allyuh iz de type to cuss allyuh parents the one day she cyar afford to cook ah hot meal,
VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
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All de haters of #14 only bumpin dey gum daiz all dey doing people just want to ignore the facts and puh down #14....ah bunch ah hypocrites coming on an talking pure tata bout he eh do nuttin for we in a long time,he eh no good,he does throw away,ah ha 2 laugh,all yuh ha to be jokers,becuz if all yuh really following TnT football yuh must know who de best and only true goal scorer we have is Stern,who else have proven dey can get de job done .......NOBODY....is time to give jack he jacket jim he jimboots and dick he pr!ck ...........................talk done !!!
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Berris,
Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.
Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.
Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.
Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.
(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)
All I want him to do is score....then I might like him
Until then.
He will remain a pothound in my books.
Respectfully submitted,
Touches
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f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM
STERN 14!
PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS
agreed x1000000000000
PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
allyuh iz de type to cuss allyuh parents the one day she cyar afford to cook ah hot meal,
VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
Ah like that Morvant.
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Berris,
Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.
Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.
Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.
Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.
(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)
All I want him to do is score....then I might like him
Until then.
He will remain a pothound in my books.
Respectfully submitted,
Touches
Aye, does that bench come in RED ?
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Berris,
Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.
Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.
Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.
Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.
(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)
All I want him to do is score....then I might like him
Until then.
He will remain a pothound in my books.
Respectfully submitted,
Touches
ah Touches de same way yuh monitoring wah and when I post yuh cyar see yuh doing de same ting ...
imagine ....yuh went an sleep ...yuh wake up an come back again thursday and now yuh comeback again with de same blinkers, yuh no de kind dey does puh on horse so dey cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front ah dem
daiz wah you have on dread, blinkers ......an ah tink yuh getting mix up , nobody eh ask yuh to like Stern but just give credit where credit due ..
p.s. touches look like yuh use to make pleanty bench in yuh day, yuh cudda tell meh yuh was a carpenter !!!! ...nice bench though !!!
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Berris,
A carpenter is a noble profession....wham to you atall.
The greatest man that ever walked this earth was a carpenter.
I'm sorry...........I just cant join your little club. Consider me persona non grata.
and yuh know I ent have total disdain for the man....I just find he is a shitsnake .
Berris this might be hard for you to comprehend...but my comments bout yuh boy sorf. They have worse dan me.
Doe worry they have plenty men who in my corner and who feel the same way bout Stern. They just wasn't feeling to type away at your comments.
Alright let me cheer you up and make you feel better.....this goes for Small Magician as well.
#14 is the best thing in a tugs.
He is the greatest player to ever put orn the red/black and white to wear a tugs and score goals for Trinidad and Tobago. His impeccable record and potent strike rate among the best teams in the world is second to none.
He is the personification of a striker, attitude, hardwork, discipline and an inspirational leader and motivator to his team mates and to the fans.
Last but certainly not least he singlehandedly guided Trinidad and Tobago to its first ever World Cup Finals and 1.3 million citizens are eternally greatful.
I salute you Stern John.
#14 Forever!
There berris....now yuh could go pee, duss orf yuh foot and go to sleep hope all is well.
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I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.
all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who. Look who have 64 goals as well.
Kiatisuk Senamuang!! WHO?!
And look at the top of the list, I mean he with some illustrious company. Ali Daei, Bashar Abdullah, Hossam Hassan who the f**k is them men?
If that list was any good it would ah have shots taken and index it against the goals to give you a clearer picture.
I doh understand all yuh fixation with this stats thing. Because he have 64 goals mean he better than Ronaldo or Zico or anybody else on that list. I think not.
As it is that stat sheet eh worth nothing it jes serving for all yuh to prop up Stern.
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(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)
boy that too good for he boy, is this he need
(http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/BDX/BDX128/bxp28232.jpg)
ah nice stainless stell posie
for all that shit he does be playing
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Berris,
A carpenter is a noble profession....wham to you atall.
The greatest man that ever walked this earth was a carpenter.
I'm sorry...........I just cant join your little club. Consider me persona non grata.
and yuh know I ent have total disdain for the man....I just find he is a shitsnake .
Berris this might be hard for you to comprehend...but my comments bout yuh boy sorf. They have worse dan me.
Doe worry they have plenty men who in my corner and who feel the same way bout Stern. They just wasn't feeling to type away at your comments.
Alright let me cheer you up and make you feel better.....this goes for Small Magician as well.
#14 is the best thing in a tugs.
He is the greatest player to ever put orn the red/black and white to wear a tugs and score goals for Trinidad and Tobago. His impeccable record and potent strike rate among the best teams in the world is second to none.
He is the personification of a striker, attitude, hardwork, discipline and an inspirational leader and motivator to his team mates and to the fans.
Last but certainly not least he singlehandedly guided Trinidad and Tobago to its first ever World Cup Finals and 1.3 million citizens are eternally greatful.
I salute you Stern John.
#14 Forever!
There berris....now yuh could go pee, duss orf yuh foot and go to sleep hope all is well.
Like ah tell yuh before Stern doh have to be meh boy for me to post how valuable ah goal scorer he has been to TnT. The same way it hah people posting negative bout Stern it hah man posting positive so wuz ur point dey ? dat and saying nuttin is de same.
Me eh have , 'pleanty man in meh corner',buh ah know and recognize and cud see a natural goal scorer when ah see one and 65 goals in international competion any way yuh want to dis it is still the TnT record ...wah yuh feel he buy dem goals dem is de same goals dat put we in Germany .....
Touches leh meh ask yuh dis if Stern is ah shithound how come he playing in England ,wham de english coaches doh no bout football or Stern just de lucky dey pick him.
Leh meh make yuh feel good before ah go
Stern John is de worse goal scorer TnT ever had he cyar score a goal to put we in the WC not even a qualifying goal ,he score 65 international goals by fluke pure luck and shudda be on de bench in every game he everplayer for TnT , he never come back home for games as he allways dissin TnT, like Dwight when he playing for Man U, and refuse to train like a true proffesional that is why he is always disciplined by beenie and benched,he only lucky he score dem 12 goals in de qualifying games as everyone ah dem goals was flukes none were good goals and none i repeat none were meaningfull to TnT in qualifing for the WC and for dat hel will always be a shithound .
there Touches happy now....ah hope for your sake yuh hemmroids doh start acting up again.... gone sleep ....hope yuh feel better
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and when this thread is dead and gone
just like against wales and austria wein and mexico and sides in the championship
hell b e banging them in
like i said in a next post........stern john did not walk into a tnt team he showed dem bastards on the training pitch that he meant business
now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate
i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with
12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs
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(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)
Jah boy Touches you could ah find ah better bench dan dat, it look like one meh grandfather had on his plantation in Chatham
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I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.
all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who. Look who have 64 goals as well.
Kiatisuk Senamuang!! WHO?!
And look at the top of the list, I mean he with some illustrious company. Ali Daei, Bashar Abdullah, Hossam Hassan who the f**k is them men?
If that list was any good it would ah have shots taken and index it against the goals to give you a clearer picture.
I doh understand all yuh fixation with this stats thing. Because he have 64 goals mean he better than Ronaldo or Zico or anybody else on that list. I think not.
As it is that stat sheet eh worth nothing it jes serving for all yuh to prop up Stern.
stats records call dem wah yuh want who else we have playing for TnT now with dat sort af goal scoring record ? nobody eh come close so that doh mean nuttin?,like you wearing blinkers to .As Trinis we never satisfied none ah all yuh cyar do better buh yuh come on here bumpin yuh gum bout wah yuh doh no ...some ah all yuh never kick a ball in yuh life buh want to come and tell people bout who good and who eh good ...well since yuh know who eh good ah want yuh to tell meh who better and why ? what dey do for TnT football on what grounds shud they be starting infront of Stern ....
This is a losing battle becuz when ah horse have on blinkers he cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front of him and it pleanty blinkers on on this site....
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I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.
all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who. Look who have 64 goals as well.
Kiatisuk Senamuang!! WHO?!
And look at the top of the list, I mean he with some illustrious company. Ali Daei, Bashar Abdullah, Hossam Hassan who the f**k is them men?
If that list was any good it would ah have shots taken and index it against the goals to give you a clearer picture.
I doh understand all yuh fixation with this stats thing. Because he have 64 goals mean he better than Ronaldo or Zico or anybody else on that list. I think not.
As it is that stat sheet eh worth nothing it jes serving for all yuh to prop up Stern.
stats records call dem wah yuh want who else we have playing for TnT now with dat sort af goal scoring record ? nobody eh come close so that doh mean nuttin?,like you wearing blinkers to .As Trinis we never satisfied none ah all yuh cyar do better buh yuh come on here bumpin yuh gum bout wah yuh doh no ...some ah all yuh never kick a ball in yuh life buh want to come and tell people bout who good and who eh good ...well since yuh know who eh good ah want yuh to tell meh who better and why ? what dey do for TnT football on what grounds shud they be starting infront of Stern ....
This is a losing battle becuz when ah horse have on blinkers he cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front of him and it pleanty blinkers on on this site....
Berris lemmih jump into allyuh love fest here and just point out..dat from looooooooooooooooonnnng time
Disgruntled Trini doh like stern.....if you do a search on disgruntled trini you will discover 90% of he posts does have to do wit not likin stern
so I eh tink yuh winnin dis one....matter of fact disgruntled doh like much, he even dislike de lil QRC band wit de poor lil fellahs tryin...but ah know he have ah special place fuh stern
If stern pull de man out ah burnin building he go still cuss stern
ok ..with that....allyuh continue.....
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Clearly Berris you are the first man who would not have to look far to see one of the blinders-wearers. Oh shucks, that would be difficult for you wouldn't it, but I'm sure that you will be able to feel them nonetheless.
Granted, men might be going overboard by labelling Stern as the worse thing etc. However, should everyone take a step back (which might be very difficult at this juncture given the proximity of the big dance) and look at Stern's past and present contributions to the national effort dispassionately we just might see that 1) Mr. John has been a faithful servant to the T&T cause 2) Mr. John is blessed with the talents of a goalscorer 3) He, by a long way, is the top scorer for the red, white and black.
Similarly we should see that 1) He is less proficient at playing football than playing a striker as he rarely contributes in any other way to the team performance other than scoring 2) His returns,given the number of opportunities presented to him (as he rarely works for these himself), leaves a lot to be desired.
We all know that Stern can play a team game (see T&T v Mex 12/10/05). Unfortunately he seems to do so only when he wants, maybe this is understood and accepted by the coaching staff but here's the rub, he's not the only striker and he does not have a divine right to start. As he is not producing the goods at the rate expected based on his experience, skill and talents then there's room for disenchantment and the option to try someone else.
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and free to express it and in this forum we have both the Stern fanatics and the Stern haters and that is all good. But let us not lose sight of the fact that football is a team sport and that in this case that team is our beloved Soca warriors and we all just want and expect them to do their best. In addition we have a right to demand that they do. In the end this does not mean that anyone feels that they can do better than the players, but the players do represent every Trinidadian and Tobagonian and so we all have the right to hold them up to whatever standard we chose as individuals.
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ok ok ok Dutty and company ah rest meh case ........right after dis .....
Dutty I eh trying to convince anybody to like Stern dis eh ah liking contest ,is dem dem fellas making it dat.Nobody eh ask dem to like Stern John,but yuh cyar talk bout goal scoring for TnT without Stern name, g all ah dem who hating Stern jump up in TnT when he score doe, so they only frontin on here ....leh Stern score in Germany and they go jump higher buh dey still coming back an say 'he eh no good'.
Me eh asking nobdy to like Stern hate him if yuh want buh ah know come game all de haters hah even dey big cross knowing in de back ah dey mind Stern is de only man dat does really pull we thru...doe mind we eh like him all he does do is score .......65 and counting
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now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate
i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with
12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs
:rotfl: for real shotta.
To everybody who pounding Stern - All yuh men is real kix. Al you get some bush rum and now alyou want champagne. Stern could win the golden boot by scoring 6 against Paraguay and if we didn't qualify for the second round because sweden and hingerland beat we, you go say is he fault and he's a snake. If we get to the second round after that performance you go say, but look who he score them against.
If he score against Hingerlan and he loss you go say he throw way goals we coulda win with. If he score them goals and we win, you go want to know what he was doing against Paraguay.
Since he pick up the injury Stern is not the same player, but he learn how to make a living out ah making men forget he on the pitch. In a certain way you could say he perfect the playing dead to ketch cobo alive strategy. If Stern had the 'reputation'
But to say that Stern doh do nothing on the team except wait for pass you ha to eb a bloody liar. Against Slovenia in that same game everybody cussing him for, Stern pelt a blade on a man BEHIND the half line. Against Peru he do nuff defending. He's not the fittest player on the team but all you want him to do the work of fifty men.
Why the ASS alyou doh ask Shaka to take free kicks eh? Or Latas to defend?
You could say how d man doh LOOK like he doing nothing but when he scoring, where you does be? Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Until such time that any of we other options up front do something to suggest that they could even lace Stern boots, you can't be calling for him to bench.
Granted, I woulda like to see two of the other strikers up front in the slovenia game just for them to get some practice, and to rest Stern but from there to go and say that number 14 is the worst thing in tugs...you have to be a ingrate!
Stern come home when the starboy didn't want to hear anything about trinidad. Dat is the thanks alyuh give him? I now understand where Stephen Ames and Vidia NAipaul coming from
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Similarly we should see that 1) He is less proficient at playing football than playing a striker as he rarely contributes in any other way to the team performance other than scoring 2) His returns,given the number of opportunities presented to him (as he rarely works for these himself), leaves a lot to be desired.
We all know that Stern can play a team game (see T&T v Mex 12/10/05). Unfortunately he seems to do so only when he wants, maybe this is understood and accepted by the coaching staff but here's the rub, he's not the only striker and he does not have a divine right to start. As he is not producing the goods at the rate expected based on his experience, skill and talents then there's room for disenchantment and the option to try someone else.
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and free to express it and in this forum we have both the Stern fanatics and the Stern haters and that is all good. But let us not lose sight of the fact that football is a team sport and that in this case that team is our beloved Soca warriors and we all just want and expect them to do their best. In addition we have a right to demand that they do. In the end this does not mean that anyone feels that they can do better than the players, but the players do represent every Trinidadian and Tobagonian and so we all have the right to hold them up to whatever standard we chose as individuals.
this has to be a joke right !! becuz a player represents TnT you think 'we have de right to hold them up to whatever standard we CHOOSE as individuals' ....... lol lol ah sorry to laugh buh it really funny becuz when yuh tink bout a person being selected to represent dey country becuz of dey talent and den dey have to live up to your standards ...lol lol yuh really serious ....lol lol sorry meh bredder ah eh hah nuttin to say ah cyar argue wid dah kind ah reasoning ....take win ....l
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now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate
i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with
12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs
:rotfl: for real shotta.
To everybody who pounding Stern - All yuh men is real kix. Al you get some bush rum and now alyou want champagne. Stern could win the golden boot by scoring 6 against Paraguay and if we didn't qualify for the second round because sweden and hingerland beat we, you go say is he fault and he's a snake. If we get to the second round after that performance you go say, but look who he score them against.
If he score against Hingerlan and he loss you go say he throw way goals we coulda win with. If he score them goals and we win, you go want to know what he was doing against Paraguay.
Since he pick up the injury Stern is not the same player, but he learn how to make a living out ah making men forget he on the pitch. In a certain way you could say he perfect the playing dead to ketch cobo alive strategy. If Stern had the 'reputation'
But to say that Stern doh do nothing on the team except wait for pass you ha to eb a bloody liar. Against Slovenia in that same game everybody cussing him for, Stern pelt a blade on a man BEHIND the half line. Against Peru he do nuff defending. He's not the fittest player on the team but all you want him to do the work of fifty men.
Why the ASS alyou doh ask Shaka to take free kicks eh? Or Latas to defend?
You could say how d man doh LOOK like he doing nothing but when he scoring, where you does be? Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Until such time that any of we other options up front do something to suggest that they could even lace Stern boots, you can't be calling for him to bench.
Granted, I woulda like to see two of the other strikers up front in the slovenia game just for them to get some practice, and to rest Stern but from there to go and say that number 14 is the worst thing in tugs...you have to be a ingrate!
Stern come home when the starboy didn't want to hear anything about trinidad. Dat is the thanks alyuh give him? I now understand where Stephen Ames and Vidia NAipaul coming from
Midknight this is one of the best posts i've seen in a while...
alot of men does forget about the rest of Stern game...
I think he is actually one of our better passers of the ball, his ball control is very good...
I remeber in d hex men was calling for him 2 get drop for the guatemala game, and i couldn't understand why, just a few games b4 he scored and set up a goal ( against panama in HC stadium ).. buh men wanted to drop him..
the last goal Cornell Glen score for trinidad in the goal cup, yes, was set up by Angus Eve, but it was Stern pass from the center that realease Angus into space on the right to put in d cross...
Stern played a solid overall game in the second leg against Bahrain, actually distiributing the ball from the middle, in fact Yorke and Latapy did alot more wasteful things dan Stern in dat game...
Now as for d Slovenia game, i am yet to see it in entirety, but Stern should not have missed those chances.. buh consider this, if a player is not in a postion to score how will he score, THE FACT THAT HE FOUND HIMSELF IN DANGEROUS POSITIONS TO RECEIVE THE BALL AND SCORE IS AN ENCOURAGING SIGN... however he still has to finish and despite his misgiving wednesday he is still the best finsher on our team in my eyes..
peace
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Arazi and Midknight all yuh cudd'nt ah put it better excellent post ....dem fellas eh have ah clue ...Stern John = GOALS........... wah dey want again, blood !!!
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Alyuh eh know how much kicks I ketching off this thread eh.
The stainless steel posee had meh rolling this afternoon :rotfl:
Imagine I call the man a shithound as I do countless times and post some pictures of what I think is the remedy he need to score.
Go back read all d posts.....
You know what this thread unearth......a setta men who just couldnt take the pong that they getting from they partners bout they beloved player and just had to feel the need to vent.
Watch the tread good....read carefully, all who take this opportunity to call man waggonist. All who is not patriot and die hard. All who ungreatful and all who is hypocrite. Who have or doe have class etc.
And the kicksy thing is man making accusations...get a talk and will try to defend a opinion that was not even part of the topic in the first place.
I never bring up a stat...I never question Stern Loyalty to the cause, I ent say nuttin bout him being top goal scorer........others said that.
But I make some peepers come out the woodwork and I raise people pressure!
I like dat!.........and because I know I fretting alyuh tail I going and be a troll and lace it alyuh even more.
All I simply said is Stern is a shithound and he must take his chances.....I provided my remedy for what is needed and yes I think a bench is in order.
Imagine I have been accused of wearing blinkers when all I am stating is the obvious.
and if you notice....I want the man score too. I know he in the line up and all I want is TT to do well.
But small ting.
as FF say if better can't be done let the worse continue!
What this thread did bring in my eyes is that many of you settle for mediocrity and shit from your players and our team.......and to cap it off alyuh does defend the shit and try to spin it around all how to justify it.
Why it so hard for alyuh to accept our limitations.
Why is it so hard for alyuh to call out a man or a performance when he play shit.
Why is it also so hard to understand that we are in the present and that what matters is the form players are in now.....not what was done before.
Nobody not ungreatful but the bar has been raised and alyuh in remember when mode instead of fixing it now mode.
I sorry, but I know better can be done by not only Stern, but the Warriors as well and if alyuh doe like how I call it as I see it thats alyuh.
I have always wanted the best for TT as a team and if is tough love Stern need to get vex and score well I did my job.
But if he has to take a seat on the pine...then all that good as well.
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Alyuh eh know how much kicks I ketching off this thread eh.
The stainless steel posee had meh rolling this afternoon :rotfl:
Imagine I call the man a shithound as I do countless times and post some pictures of what I think is the remedy he need to score.
Go back read all d posts.....
You know what this thread unearth......a setta men who just couldnt take the pong that they getting from they partners bout they beloved player and just had to feel the need to vent.
Watch the tread good....read carefully, all who take this opportunity to call man waggonist. All who is not patriot and die hard. All who ungreatful and all who is hypocrite. Who have or doe have class etc.
And the kicksy thing is man making accusations...get a talk and will try to defend a opinion that was not even part of the topic in the first place.
I never bring up a stat...I never question Stern Loyalty to the cause, I ent say nuttin bout him being top goal scorer........others said that.
But I make some peepers come out the woodwork and I raise people pressure!
I like dat!.........and because I know I fretting alyuh tail I going and be a troll and lace it alyuh even more.
All I simply said is Stern is a shithound and he must take his chances.....I provided my remedy for what is needed and yes I think a bench is in order.
Imagine I have been accused of wearing blinkers when all I am stating is the obvious.
and if you notice....I want the man score too. I know he in the line up and all I want is TT to do well.
But small ting.
as FF say if better can't be done let the worse continue!
What this thread did bring in my eyes is that many of you settle for mediocrity and shit from your players and our team.......and to cap it off alyuh does defend the shit and try to spin it around all how to justify it.
Why it so hard for alyuh to accept our limitations.
Why is it so hard for alyuh to call out a man or a performance when he play shit.
Why is it also so hard to understand that we are in the present and that what matters is the form players are in now.....not what was done before.
Nobody not ungreatful but the bar has been raised and alyuh in remember when mode instead of fixing it now mode.
I sorry, but I know better can be done by not only Stern, but the Warriors as well and if alyuh doe like how I call it as I see it thats alyuh.
I have always wanted the best for TT as a team and if is tough love Stern need to get vex and score well I did my job.
But if he has to take a seat on the pine...then all that good as well.
Touches wey yuh just say dey make green grass grow all over de world .....
bullshit ............
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Berris...take win
We will agree to disagree.
I overs both you and Stern.
Welcome to the forum and enjoy.
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I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.
all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who.
Well Yorke scored a whopping 15 against the same competition. Argue with that nah?!
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now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate
i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with
12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs
:rotfl: for real shotta.
To everybody who pounding Stern - All yuh men is real kix. Al you get some bush rum and now alyou want champagne. Stern could win the golden boot by scoring 6 against Paraguay and if we didn't qualify for the second round because sweden and hingerland beat we, you go say is he fault and he's a snake. If we get to the second round after that performance you go say, but look who he score them against.
If he score against Hingerlan and he loss you go say he throw way goals we coulda win with. If he score them goals and we win, you go want to know what he was doing against Paraguay.
Since he pick up the injury Stern is not the same player, but he learn how to make a living out ah making men forget he on the pitch. In a certain way you could say he perfect the playing dead to ketch cobo alive strategy. If Stern had the 'reputation'
But to say that Stern doh do nothing on the team except wait for pass you ha to eb a bloody liar. Against Slovenia in that same game everybody cussing him for, Stern pelt a blade on a man BEHIND the half line. Against Peru he do nuff defending. He's not the fittest player on the team but all you want him to do the work of fifty men.
Why the ASS alyou doh ask Shaka to take free kicks eh? Or Latas to defend?
You could say how d man doh LOOK like he doing nothing but when he scoring, where you does be? Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Until such time that any of we other options up front do something to suggest that they could even lace Stern boots, you can't be calling for him to bench.
Granted, I woulda like to see two of the other strikers up front in the slovenia game just for them to get some practice, and to rest Stern but from there to go and say that number 14 is the worst thing in tugs...you have to be a ingrate!
Stern come home when the starboy didn't want to hear anything about trinidad. Dat is the thanks alyuh give him? I now understand where Stephen Ames and Vidia NAipaul coming from
Well said!
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I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.
all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who.
Well Yorke scored a whopping 15 against the same competition. Argue with that nah?!
why do you have this vendetta with Yorke... (also you keep forgetting the fact that in the last 15 games Yorke has been used as a striker in about 3 of them)... Stern was for most of the time the lone striker upfront... even after missing 5 in a row... he must put them in the back of the net once or twice.... he's supposed to.
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Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT? not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.
Berris lemme tell yuh this.
Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.
I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.
But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.
Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.
When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?
Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.
Why the HELL didn't Yorke get us to the world cup? He was scoring goals for ManU at that time and playing as a striker along side Stern. Who scored more? STERN.
Allyuh really ungrateful.
but for Man U he was an out and out striker ... for us he plays a little withdrawn becasue of his age and his ability to distribute ... just like at Sydney ... Stern does hold the ball well, beats men, ... but what he lacks is a poachers mentality ... he looks to often for the pretty perfect goals ... in the WC its not how u score but that u score ... smooth pretty goals and the ugly ones u hatta scramble for ... thats is what he is lacking ...
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Touches boy... I co-op the "if better cant be done" line from Disgruntled....
but these men real harden... them refuse to see your point and or reasoning.....
Let meh show dem ah forms....
Stern break he duck after Beenie threaten to bench he arse.... lemmeh see all who want to deny that...
it work before... it go work again! It working all over de world.... ah lil pine does go a long way!
Lemmeh see who pressure raise.... ;D
Thank you and good night!
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Lets see what'll he do in the czech game,maybe this is his break-out game and all the coach need to do from now on is threaten him with the bench,but I want to be proven wrong,it's just not going to happen..................see all the forumites in fantasy land with stern.
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Lets see what'll he do in the czech game,maybe this is his break-out game and all the coach need to do from now on is threaten him with the bench,but I want to be proven wrong,it's just not going to happen..................see all the forumites in fantasy land with stern.
Isn't Glenn getting a bligh in this game ... this is the perfect opportunity to let Stern sit on de pine ... its a big practice game ... so if he get bench now he go geh vex fuh de Sweden game an break out den ... Beenie cud wok some head games wit him now tuh let him know dat yuh not a star boy ... just like the Serbia & Montinegro coach bench dey star boy Kezmen for the sake of TEAM UNITY ... coaches all over de world use this strategy tuh get strikers hungury again ... Sir Alex also did it to Ruud VN at Man U ...so why not Beenie an Stern. jus becasue he used to score mean that he will score again ...
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All de haters of #14 only bumpin dey gum daiz all dey doing people just want to ignore the facts and puh down #14....ah bunch ah hypocrites coming on an talking pure tata bout he eh do nuttin for we in a long time,he eh no good,he does throw away,ah ha 2 laugh,all yuh ha to be jokers,becuz if all yuh really following TnT football yuh must know who de best and only true goal scorer we have is Stern,who else have proven dey can get de job done .......NOBODY....is time to give jack he jacket jim he jimboots and dick he pr!ck ...........................talk done !!!
Berris,
Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.
Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.
Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.
Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.
(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)
All I want him to do is score....then I might like him
Until then.
He will remain a pothound in my books.
Respectfully submitted,
Touches
ah Touches de same way yuh monitoring wah and when I post yuh cyar see yuh doing de same ting ...
imagine ....yuh went an sleep ...yuh wake up an come back again thursday and now yuh comeback again with de same blinkers, yuh no de kind dey does puh on horse so dey cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front ah dem
daiz wah you have on dread, blinkers ......an ah tink yuh getting mix up , nobody eh ask yuh to like Stern but just give credit where credit due ..
p.s. touches look like yuh use to make pleanty bench in yuh day, yuh cudda tell meh yuh was a carpenter !!!! ...nice bench though !!!
ok ok ok Dutty and company ah rest meh case ........right after dis .....
Dutty I eh trying to convince anybody to like Stern dis eh ah liking contest ,is dem dem fellas making it dat.Nobody eh ask dem to like Stern John,but yuh cyar talk bout goal scoring for TnT without Stern name, g all ah dem who hating Stern jump up in TnT when he score doe, so they only frontin on here ....leh Stern score in Germany and they go jump higher buh dey still coming back an say 'he eh no good'.
Me eh asking nobdy to like Stern hate him if yuh want buh ah know come game all de haters hah even dey big cross knowing in de back ah dey mind Stern is de only man dat does really pull we thru...doe mind we eh like him all he does do is score .......65 and counting
etc.,etc....
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i know this man... here is a true stern supporter... allyuh dont know how much english sh!t he's defend stern from... lol
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the last goal Cornell Glen score for trinidad in the goal cup, yes, was set up by Angus Eve, but it was Stern pass from the center that realease Angus into space on the right to put in d cross...
That was a pull stones ball Stern give Angus there!! Angus was in acres of space on the right, all it took was a simple ball but Stern overweight the pass and it nearly went out for a corner!! In fact I sure thas why Beenie drop Angus after the Gold Cup, he figure there's no way he'll ever be healthy again, fuss he stones get pulled!
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Touches bro yuh is ah Chemist or what? Maybe they should all take dat and "CASHIT because they cant shoot ah mean S*IT... :rotfl:
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alot of men does forget about the rest of Stern game...
I think he is actually one of our better passers of the ball, his ball control is very good...
WHAT!!
better passes, ball control
wha game you does be watching, look stop talking damn dotishness eh
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allya eh done ye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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I do not understand his role, he just stands there.
We need playmakers like Samuel and Latapy!
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Bring him on at half time, that should create a spark in him, maybe end the drought!
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Wha yuh say?! :D You looking fuh trouble on dis board.
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wha yuh bringing him on half-time to do??
is bench and more bench
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Bring him on HT, he eh go throw way goal, he eh go stand up waiting for ball, it go spark a fire, he go start playing football, helping create chances, instead of just standing up, he go score every chance he get.
Bench he arse against Sweden!
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Stern is an exceptional player BUT he cannot play by himself up front. If he had someone playing up front with him he will score bundles...
he has an eye for goal but he doesn't move around alot so be would need another striker who will do the running to open spaces for him to score. But his record speaks for itself. He can score.
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BENCH STERN JOHN ?
Allyuh want two clout. ???
This is another post like ah one foot man in ah ass kicking contest. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I DONT CARE WHO DE^%$# START ONCE DEY SCORE...SHIT MAN..I NO DE COACH...HELL D E KEEPER COUDL SCORE FOR ALL I CARE( INSPIRED BY THE POLISH GAME). t&t we want a goal!!
if u cyah remeber that chan.. your ass young
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I know Stern is aware that supporters was vex when he wasn't doing anything in the qualifiers and getting caught offside over and over again. So when he started to score he cursed and justiculated at everyone who thought he should get sub.
OK. So it is established that he is our main striker and we need him to score goals for us. What I am wondering though is whether Stern or any other players does come on the Soca Warriors website nad read dese posts. Ah mean de man does be offside about 10 times in one game!!! Ah doh mine missing chances as long as yuh score de one or two of chances. But de man always standin up, always getting catch offside and will probably go down as the laziest striker in the 2006 world cup.
Looking at strikers at the international level, you see dem running around constantly. With Stern standing around it easy for the oppostion defense to read him.
Lawd.....It eh have nobody who know de man personally to tell him to wake up...GEEEZZZZ!!!!
MAYBE HE WAS SAVING HIS ENERGY FOR DE WORLD CUP AND HE GOIN TO SURPRISE ALL AH WE!!!!
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Alyuh eh know how much kicks I ketching off this thread eh.
The stainless steel posee had meh rolling this afternoon :rotfl:
Imagine I call the man a shithound as I do countless times and post some pictures of what I think is the remedy he need to score.
Go back read all d posts.....
You know what this thread unearth......a setta men who just couldnt take the pong that they getting from they partners bout they beloved player and just had to feel the need to vent.
Watch the tread good....read carefully, all who take this opportunity to call man waggonist. All who is not patriot and die hard. All who ungreatful and all who is hypocrite. Who have or doe have class etc.
And the kicksy thing is man making accusations...get a talk and will try to defend a opinion that was not even part of the topic in the first place.
I never bring up a stat...I never question Stern Loyalty to the cause, I ent say nuttin bout him being top goal scorer........others said that.
But I make some peepers come out the woodwork and I raise people pressure!
I like dat!.........and because I know I fretting alyuh tail I going and be a troll and lace it alyuh even more.
All I simply said is Stern is a shithound and he must take his chances.....I provided my remedy for what is needed and yes I think a bench is in order.
Imagine I have been accused of wearing blinkers when all I am stating is the obvious.
and if you notice....I want the man score too. I know he in the line up and all I want is TT to do well.
But small ting.
as FF say if better can't be done let the worse continue!
What this thread did bring in my eyes is that many of you settle for mediocrity and shit from your players and our team.......and to cap it off alyuh does defend the shit and try to spin it around all how to justify it.
Why it so hard for alyuh to accept our limitations.
Why is it so hard for alyuh to call out a man or a performance when he play shit.
Why is it also so hard to understand that we are in the present and that what matters is the form players are in now.....not what was done before.
Nobody not ungreatful but the bar has been raised and alyuh in remember when mode instead of fixing it now mode.
I sorry, but I know better can be done by not only Stern, but the Warriors as well and if alyuh doe like how I call it as I see it thats alyuh.
I have always wanted the best for TT as a team and if is tough love Stern need to get vex and score well I did my job.
But if he has to take a seat on the pine...then all that good as well.
Excellent Touches truly Excellent,but unfortunately most of the guys yuh targeting are beyond reasoning..............Great post,good to see someone with an objective point of view with no malice.....
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Touches, well said brother :applause:
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All yuh still hating ...all yuh rally good de WC go start ,play and finish and all yuh go still be hating ....wat ah waste !!!!!
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now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......
wah yal;l; thuink?
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now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......
wah yal;l; thuink?
Stern must start. Thread closed.
Allyuh so lucky I wasn't a moderator. "Ah fed up ah the same ting... over and over"
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no its not a must just like latas have to earn his spot and every other man have to, his performance last couple days....hasnt guaranteed him anything.......so me in noe whey u geh MUSS START from..
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now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......
wah yal;l; thuink?
leaving out stern is not an option at this stage... he's our top scorer and one of the few near consistant goalscorer's we have..... u meant to leave out a man with 65 international goals for others who have 2 and 3 goals???he may have an undesireable workrate to you but at the end of the day he tends to get the job done so i think allyuh should HYMC on this topic... the WC starting and the players cant do with all this retarded negativity abt them... stern is the man!!!
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now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......
wah yal;l; thuink?
leaving out stern is not an option at this stage... he's our top scorer and one of the few near consistant goalscorer's we have..... u meant to leave out a man with 65 international goals for others who have 2 and 3 goals???he may have an undesireable workrate to you but at the end of the day he tends to get the job done so i think allyuh should HYMC on this topic... the WC starting and the players cant do with all this retarded negativity abt them... stern is the man!!!
I think its only a few people calling for Stern's head realistically. Even the haters saying he is the least of several evils. Apparently some of them think Cornel Glenn and Jones are better strikers than Stern. They are entitled to their opinion and the coach is entitled to his. Beenie is the best coach we have ever had I will support with any decision he makes.
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bruddah relax yuhself bout HYMC....me and u iz nuh no friends.....and u rather go woth a veteran that throwing 4 5 scoring chances a game or a younster who playing less yrs so obviously wont have as much goals.....but who can threaten a defence more than stern....?????
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put it this way Stern cud score 100000000 goals for TnT and man go still be hatin .... all yuh really believe Stern score 65 goals for TnT by FLUKE ,ok ah give all yuh de benifit ah de doubt leh we say all he goals score by FLUKE ..well ah still taking 65 FLUKES anyday before glenn.jones,samuels whoever on de squad ...oh gawd man all yuh real unreasonable or just plain dohtish ...ah mean is one ting to give constructive criticizm buh to try and justify benching TnT leading goal scorer up to date and counting by far,becuz 'he does throway too much'
imo is pure ignorance as all strikers does throway but not all does score 65 goals.When Stern stop scoring goals all yuh cud call for he head but right now he is de only striker on TnT that Sweden, England and Paraguay know cud put water in dey eye,yuh really tink dem fellas worried bout Cornell and Jones .
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Trust me - the fellas read this site like Jumbie.
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put it this way Stern cud score 100000000 goals for TnT and man go still be hatin .... all yuh really believe Stern score 65 goals for TnT by FLUKE ,ok ah give all yuh de benifit ah de doubt leh we say all he goals score by FLUKE ..well ah still taking 65 FLUKES anyday before glenn.jones,samuels whoever on de squad ...oh gawd man all yuh real unreasonable or just plain dohtish ...ah mean is one ting to give constructive criticizm buh to try and justify benching TnT leading goal scorer up to date and counting by far,becuz 'he does throway too much'
imo is pure ignorance as all strikers does throway but not all does score 65 goals.When Stern stop scoring goals all yuh cud call for he head but right now he is de only striker on TnT that Sweden, England and Paraguay know cud put water in dey eye,yuh really tink dem fellas worried bout Cornell and Jones .
Well Said!
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put it this way Stern cud score 100000000 goals for TnT and man go still be hatin .... all yuh really believe Stern score 65 goals for TnT by FLUKE ,ok ah give all yuh de benifit ah de doubt leh we say all he goals score by FLUKE ..well ah still taking 65 FLUKES anyday before glenn.jones,samuels whoever on de squad ...oh gawd man all yuh real unreasonable or just plain dohtish ...ah mean is one ting to give constructive criticizm buh to try and justify benching TnT leading goal scorer up to date and counting by far,becuz 'he does throway too much'
imo is pure ignorance as all strikers does throway but not all does score 65 goals.When Stern stop scoring goals all yuh cud call for he head but right now he is de only striker on TnT that Sweden, England and Paraguay know cud put water in dey eye,yuh really tink dem fellas worried bout Cornell and Jones .
Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple
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now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his work rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......
wah yal;l; thuink?
I liked how you put it basically I agree with you. ;)
I have been called negative a Stern hater and some other things on this site and elsewhere but this is my point.
The man has an incredible record. Yes it may be because he plays every game but he only gives 55% Imagine how good the man will be and how much less aspirin I will have to take if he even gives 80%.
All I ask of the man is to give more. Run more complain less. And he will reach greatness we as a team will be great.
In the Bahrain game in Bahrain was the first time I actually saw Stern run down the ball and reach past the halfway line he actually was playing defence. Honestly all knocks aside he didn't score in that game but I was happy with his performance cause he gave 100% he ran after everything I almost cried.
I will be silly to think that a striker is supposed to score in every match, but at this level you should not be consistently missing the easy goals.
Anyway we have a few more days to go so I going to give Stern a rest, stop watching the cardboard cutout of him in hilo cross and stop planning to tip it over in frustration and mind you is not frustration over the fact that I do not like the man. Like has nothing to do with it but he could work harder. It is time we stop settling. I am frustrated because I believe in my team and as a result I believe in him.
Good Luck to all the warriors out there God bless and give 200% ;D ;D
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Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple
THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE LAST TIME I POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT BEING TOP OF THE LIST ON THE EVE OF OUR MATCH AGAINST SWEDEN
Saga, tell me what TOP international teams Stern didn't score against. While you at it, tell me what TOP international teams Trinidad ever play...Thirdly, tell me how many OTHER trinidadians score against these same top teams
Let me answer me own question.
1 1 1 15- 2-95 Port of Spain Finland 2-1
2 1 29-11-95 Port of Spain Norway 3-2
8 6 24-11-96 Port of Spain USA 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
18 10 4- 2-98 Oakland Mexico 2-4 Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
25 1 22 6- 5-99 Port of Spain South Africa 2-0
29 3 28 8- 9-99 Miami Colombia 4-3
39 31 25- 4-01 Port of Spain Mexico 1-1 World Cup Qualifier
46 35 20- 6-01 Boston USA 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
50 38 5- 9-01 Mexico City Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
52 39 11-11-01 Port of Spain USA 0-0 World Cup Qualifier
59 45 10- 9-03 Marrakesh Morocco 0-2
60 1 46 31- 3-04 Cairo Egypt 1-2
62 1 49 30- 5-04 Edinburgh Scotland 1-4
68 1 53 8- 9-04 Port of Spain Mexico 1-3 World Cup Qualifier
70 55 13-10-04 Puebla Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
74 56 9- 2-05 Port of Spain United States 1-2 World Cup Qualifier
80 59 8- 6-05 Monterrey Mexico 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
83 59 12- 7-05 Miami Colombia 0-2 Gold Cup
84 59 17- 8-05 East Hartford United States 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
88 2 64 12-10-05 Port of Spain Mexico 2-1 World Cup Qual.
91 64 1- 3-06 London Iceland 2-0
92 64 10-05-06 Port of Spain Peru 1-1
Thats 11 in 28 if you include the last official matches. better than a goal every three matches. I even left you the benefit of the doubt by taking away the matches against Venezuala (where he scored) and leaving those against Peru (where he didn't)
If by world class you mean the US, yes, Stern cannot score against World Class opposition. If by World Class you mean Czech and Slovenia (once each) yes Stern cannot score against World Class. opposition... Now I want to count how many goals we get outside of Stern's against this same World Class opposition
STEUPS - THIS THREAD IS WORLD CLASS BS...
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Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple
THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE LAST TIME I POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT BEING TOP OF THE LIST ON THE EVE OF OUR MATCH AGAINST SWEDEN
Saga, tell me what TOP international teams Stern didn't score against. While you at it, tell me what TOP international teams Trinidad ever play...Thirdly, tell me how many OTHER trinidadians score against these same top teams
Let me answer me own question.
1 1 1 15- 2-95 Port of Spain Finland 2-1
2 1 29-11-95 Port of Spain Norway 3-2
8 6 24-11-96 Port of Spain USA 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
18 10 4- 2-98 Oakland Mexico 2-4 Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
25 1 22 6- 5-99 Port of Spain South Africa 2-0
29 3 28 8- 9-99 Miami Colombia 4-3
39 31 25- 4-01 Port of Spain Mexico 1-1 World Cup Qualifier
46 35 20- 6-01 Boston USA 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
50 38 5- 9-01 Mexico City Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
52 39 11-11-01 Port of Spain USA 0-0 World Cup Qualifier
59 45 10- 9-03 Marrakesh Morocco 0-2
60 1 46 31- 3-04 Cairo Egypt 1-2
62 1 49 30- 5-04 Edinburgh Scotland 1-4
68 1 53 8- 9-04 Port of Spain Mexico 1-3 World Cup Qualifier
70 55 13-10-04 Puebla Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
74 56 9- 2-05 Port of Spain United States 1-2 World Cup Qualifier
80 59 8- 6-05 Monterrey Mexico 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
83 59 12- 7-05 Miami Colombia 0-2 Gold Cup
84 59 17- 8-05 East Hartford United States 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
88 2 64 12-10-05 Port of Spain Mexico 2-1 World Cup Qual.
91 64 1- 3-06 London Iceland 2-0
92 64 10-05-06 Port of Spain Peru 1-1
Thats 11 in 28 if you include the last official matches. better than a goal every three matches. I even left you the benefit of the doubt by taking away the matches against Venezuala (where he scored) and leaving those against Peru (where he didn't)
If by world class you mean the US, yes, Stern cannot score against World Class opposition. If by World Class you mean Czech and Slovenia (once each) yes Stern cannot score against World Class. opposition... Now I want to count how many goals we get outside of Stern's against this same World Class opposition
STEUPS - THIS THREAD IS WORLD CLASS BS...
I couldn't believe saga pinto could make such an erroneous assertion. Why should we berate a man who for all intents and purposes is the best in his position for our national team. To prove that Stern John is not a world class striker like Ronaldo, Shevchenko or Eto'o. I don't see the point in pinto saying Stern can't make the grade days before the biggest tournament we have ever played in kicks off when the man is perhaps our best hope of scoring goals at the World Cup.
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Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple
THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE LAST TIME I POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT BEING TOP OF THE LIST ON THE EVE OF OUR MATCH AGAINST SWEDEN
Saga, tell me what TOP international teams Stern didn't score against. While you at it, tell me what TOP international teams Trinidad ever play...Thirdly, tell me how many OTHER trinidadians score against these same top teams
Let me answer me own question.
1 1 1 15- 2-95 Port of Spain Finland 2-1
2 1 29-11-95 Port of Spain Norway 3-2
8 6 24-11-96 Port of Spain USA 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
18 10 4- 2-98 Oakland Mexico 2-4 Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
25 1 22 6- 5-99 Port of Spain South Africa 2-0
29 3 28 8- 9-99 Miami Colombia 4-3
39 31 25- 4-01 Port of Spain Mexico 1-1 World Cup Qualifier
46 35 20- 6-01 Boston USA 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
50 38 5- 9-01 Mexico City Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
52 39 11-11-01 Port of Spain USA 0-0 World Cup Qualifier
59 45 10- 9-03 Marrakesh Morocco 0-2
60 1 46 31- 3-04 Cairo Egypt 1-2
62 1 49 30- 5-04 Edinburgh Scotland 1-4
68 1 53 8- 9-04 Port of Spain Mexico 1-3 World Cup Qualifier
70 55 13-10-04 Puebla Mexico 0-3 World Cup Qualifier
74 56 9- 2-05 Port of Spain United States 1-2 World Cup Qualifier
80 59 8- 6-05 Monterrey Mexico 0-2 World Cup Qualifier
83 59 12- 7-05 Miami Colombia 0-2 Gold Cup
84 59 17- 8-05 East Hartford United States 0-1 World Cup Qualifier
88 2 64 12-10-05 Port of Spain Mexico 2-1 World Cup Qual.
91 64 1- 3-06 London Iceland 2-0
92 64 10-05-06 Port of Spain Peru 1-1
Thats 11 in 28 if you include the last official matches. better than a goal every three matches. I even left you the benefit of the doubt by taking away the matches against Venezuala (where he scored) and leaving those against Peru (where he didn't)
If by world class you mean the US, yes, Stern cannot score against World Class opposition. If by World Class you mean Czech and Slovenia (once each) yes Stern cannot score against World Class. opposition... Now I want to count how many goals we get outside of Stern's against this same World Class opposition
STEUPS - THIS THREAD IS WORLD CLASS BS...
I couldn't believe saga pinto could make such an erroneous assertion. Why should we berate a man who for all intents and purposes is the best in his position for our national team. To prove that Stern John is not a world class striker like Ronaldo, Shevchenko or Eto'o. I don't see the point in pinto saying Stern can't make the grade days before the biggest tournament we have ever played in kicks off when the man is perhaps our best hope of scoring goals at the World Cup.
funny too... is that Saga is ah rel figures and stastics man... well... when it comes to stern the fiurgives statisctics which to him i would suppose is as hard an evidence as there is... is all for Stern... cant have much of a better record... I think on this site sometimes fellahz dont really satate what they really think and alter there real opinion to cater to what other certain people have already posted... I discussed this with TriniCana for a while actually...
people sometimes jump on the wagon so to speak...
so maybe we shouldnt take it on... poeople go say chupidness.
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yall really nuh understanding wah me and saga saying nah.....so men like yall whpo feel yall know everything.....we will leave alone......cuz if yall understood football and played(especially) u wud understand where we coming from....but to each is own......dis is ah time to unite so well unite for now.,....
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yall really nuh understanding wah me and saga saying nah.....so men like yall whpo feel yall know everything.....we will leave alone......cuz if yall understood football and played(especially) u wud understand where we coming from....but to each is own......dis is ah time to unite so well unite for now.,....
funny i play alot of it and you can ask anyone im quite god enough... so much for assumtions eh?
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...get this putting hand over de heart ting from, during the anthem? I have been meaning to bring dat up for months, since last year.
Every school chile in T&T knows, you stand at attention, with your hands at your side. The whole team doing it, but Stern "love-ah-gallery" John have to be de only one who doh know de customs of his own country and put his hand over his heart. It gets me vex every time I see it. It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time. Sigh.
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...get this putting hand over de heart ting from, during the anthem? I have been meaning to bring dat up for months, since last year.
Every school chile in T&T knows, you stand at attention, with your hands at your side. The whole team doing it, but Stern "love-ah-gallery" John have to be de only one who doh know de customs of his own country and put his hand over his heart. It gets me vex every time I see it. It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time. Sigh.
A ....wha else all yuh go come wid boy fust he eh score,den he play shit now what, 'he doh know de customs of his own country' ...you cyar be serious, this have to be a joke ? De man never disrespect the flag or his country and he's not the only football player that places his hand over his heart (if you use to watch international football on ah regular basis, you would know this ).After years of national team duty you now decide to come up with this bullsh!it,wham yuh cudd'nt fine nothing else more constructive to criticize.steeeuuuppppppppsssi.You sounding like one ah dem 'red trini gyul' that geh break heart from Stern and now yuh have axe tuh grind,after all what is yuh point here that we should take Stern back to school and teach him how to Stand for de national anthem !!!!
.........STEEEEUUUPPPPPS get ah life gyul !!!!
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buh wa de jail is dis.... You serious? Now dat World Cup done some people have nuff time on dey hands..... steups!!!!!
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I don't see your point at all. How many times you go to the stadium and people doing everything else but standing at attention for the Anthem. Doh start no chupidness here at all. Respect everyone of them who represented us
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
BUT WHAT DE ASS IS DIS??!!
dat question make my day yes!
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u hadda undastand that as long as you standing upright and still during the anthem that you are doing the correct thing!
Putting your hand on your heart actually shows more respect for the anthem and inturn the country!
u obviously doh watch to much football yes............cuz almost all footballers do that
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After the Warriors strided into history and made all of us proud.... people complaining about Stern John hand on his heart during the Anthem.. Lawd
If anybody else have something irrelevant to say.. just put it in this thread and done instead of starting a new topic and making other forumites mad...
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
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THIS is a classic case of Majoring in Minors.
Oh Well, Men/ Women looking for excitement- W/C Tabanca
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Whattap!!!
Take pong :devil:
NAh to be quite honest, I just waiting on she to cuss Dwight for fumbling the words to the anthem when he singing... ;D
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
;D
(http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/nahrung/e045.gif)
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REDTRINIGIRL- You have disturbed a hornet's nest, keep that in mind next time you want to bring up another meaningless topic
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.
EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!
..and you mean to tell me birchall coudnt work on he tan ah little bit??..put on ah afro wig or someting? :-\
He spoilin de contrast fuh people with balck and white flim in dey cyamera man
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this thread is a joke...should be in the joke section.... :rotfl: :rotfl:
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.
EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!
..and you mean to tell me birchall coudnt work on he tan ah little bit??..put on ah afro wig or someting? :-\
He spoilin de contrast fuh people with balck and white flim in dey cyamera man
Not to mention dis frigging Shaka only chewing gum all de time wen de anthem playing like he eh know is bad manners to chew with yuh mouth open or what .....wey yuh redtrinigirl we giving more usefull information fuh yuh to start another jack a$$ topic
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I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.
not only that...those dreads cost us the world cup trophy
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too many damn multi coloured tugs (boots)...why de nite b4 game dem didn't vote on wha iz de game day colour.....
and while ah at it.... why Lawerence doe replace dem gold teeth/cap he have een...platinum does look much better on ah polaroid....
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Why the ass they play with long sleeve jerseys against paraguy.... who dey fell dey is Beckham...
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Why Whitley doh shave that lil piece of goatee under his chin ? Who he feel he is ? Sizzla ? .....and dem corn rows on his head like iz a rap video.........steupssss !!!
:rotfl:
Thread of the month !!
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while we at it let's petition to have goal keepers wear the same uniform as the rest of the team, better for the photos. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Once he sing de song de same way with the same intent and the same passion it doh matter if he wanna put he hand on he chest... the man love he nation... I'de get on he back for something else rather than this... look if yuh pissed off at Stern John... then just ask disgruntle for some hate material... :beermug:
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all yuh men (and women) is good kix yes, good kix thread. Dread, all yuh tink Gordon Banks culda save dat header yesterday? ;D
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all yuh men (and women) is good kix yes, good kix thread. Dread, all yuh tink Gordon Banks culda save dat header yesterday? ;D
yeah man.. of course....if he had on a bullet proff vest :rotfl: :rotfl:
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wey I want to know is, wey redtrinigirl ? not ah appearance since the topic start....wham wey yuh gorn !!! ???
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DAMN!!
Dis hadda be PONG o' de month.
VB
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de real question: "why TI so damn dunce?"
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de real question: "why TI so damn dunce?"
das not a question thats an enigmatic form of life... its best complimented by the phrase "ignorance is bliss"
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all dem A's yuh get have yuh have meh head spinning with all dem big words.
lol
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i dont know which one, but this thread in the running for an end of the year award
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WANTED WANTED WANTED
redtrinigirl has been missing in action since TUTU ING on de board and not cleaning it up !!
WANTED WANTED WANTED
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insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
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just ask disgruntle for some hate material... :beermug:
and I have plenty of that, I does drink real Haterade where he is concerned
and while we at it why Dog alwas have to look like he get a session before every game
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insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
correction Wednesday
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just ask disgruntle for some hate material... :beermug:
and I have plenty of that, I does drink real Haterade where he is concerned
and while we at it why Dog alwas have to look like he get a session before every game
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Is all de faith healing boy.
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ah hope de chick who start de topic ent gone and kill she self!
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I just think if Zidane did teach everyone of the Soca Warriors to give a header like he did yesterday so the opposing team could receive some chess trap we could ah probably reach the semis at least !!
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Wow, well done. This was a joke, meant to get a reaction and it did. Congrats :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Wow, well done. This was a joke, meant to get a reaction and it did. Congrats :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Redz....like yuh trying to turn it around :banginghead:.....good try but we know what yuh did mean tuh say .
Yuh have pong tuh tek fuh de ress ah de day. ;D
As ah on de topic........
We eh score ah flickin goal in de World Cup. ;D
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Pong away then, I doh mind atall.
But it was meant to stir things up. The board was too bloody boring yesterday. I was looking through my photos from the WC (yes, I do that every other day, sigh) and saw a couple where everyone else is standing at attention, hands to the sides, or at their backs, and there is star boy, hand on chest. In every one of the pics. I found it funny. Who vex loss.
Oh gosh, the WC done, what else we gonig to do? We've psycho-analyzed the intricacies of what to do with the team, who going to be the coach, 2010, government spending, or not spending, stress, stress and more stress.
Let's have a laugh.
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How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting :o
And everybody hands by their sides please!
yes some of our players put there hands accross there chest when d anthem playing shame shame. what is dat? we have 2 copy everything we see? steups. hands by your side plz
I noticed the hands by the heart thing at home and in Bahrain - oh lawwwwwwd Trinis could copy people eh?
It is a VERY American thing - I don't see other countries' citizens doing it - but I notice it more becoming our culture.....WHYYYYYYYYY???? Because they see it on TV so it must be cool to do.....if I had one wish it's that Trinis would lead more and follow less.....I will tell u if is one thing we could learn from Jamaicans is that - lead and people will figure it out in time....doh conform......sigh :-[
yeah wen i see de hand on de chest i does get vex...daz american ting...hands at the side and stand up straight...pple does be pose up slouching all kinda ting...how hard it is to stand straight for a two mins for we song?!!
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How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting :o
And everybody hands by their sides please!
yes some of our players put there hands accross there chest when d anthem playing shame shame. what is dat? we have 2 copy everything we see? steups. hands by your side plz
I noticed the hands by the heart thing at home and in Bahrain - oh lawwwwwwd Trinis could copy people eh?
It is a VERY American thing - I don't see other countries' citizens doing it - but I notice it more becoming our culture.....WHYYYYYYYYY???? Because they see it on TV so it must be cool to do.....if I had one wish it's that Trinis would lead more and follow less.....I will tell u if is one thing we could learn from Jamaicans is that - lead and people will figure it out in time....doh conform......sigh :-[
yeah wen i see de hand on de chest i does get vex...daz american ting...hands at the side and stand up straight...pple does be pose up slouching all kinda ting...how hard it is to stand straight for a two mins for we song?!!
:applause: :applause:
Oh laaawwwddd....ah love it!!! (copyright Andre Samuel)....and somehow ah wasn't surprised dat Berris was de first one to lead de charge...
:)
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How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting :o
Because it was relevant back then.........timing is everything
and you self too, when ato post dat...if berris did see it back den,,wuh yuh tink woulda happen? ;D
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Ah still cyar understand why man does get vex when ah standing straight straight an singing de anthem but in between "every creed an race find ah equal place" an "an may god bless we warrior nation", ah does take ah lil drink to wet mih vocal chords so dat ah could finish with mih strong baritone.
Ah doh feel ah disrepecting anybody.
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Pong away then, I doh mind atall.
But it was meant to stir things up. The board was too bloody boring yesterday. I was looking through my photos from the WC (yes, I do that every other day, sigh) and saw a couple where everyone else is standing at attention, hands to the sides, or at their backs, and there is star boy, hand on chest. In every one of the pics. I found it funny. Who vex loss.
Oh gosh, the WC done, what else we gonig to do? We've psycho-analyzed the intricacies of what to do with the team, who going to be the coach, 2010, government spending, or not spending, stress, stress and more stress.
Let's have a laugh.
Why yuh eh just come out and admit yuh post ah jacka$$ topic and leave it at dat ,yuh want to save face now and say yuh was just joking......doh try dat...take yuh pong !!! and while we on de topic why Lawerence had to be so tall,he head only sticking outta the picture !!! ;D
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How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting :o
Because it was relevant back then.........timing is everything
and you self too, when ato post dat...if berris did see it back den,,wuh yuh tink woulda happen? ;D
I did not see ato post bout the 'hand on de chest thing' back then, but the type ah bullsh!t he does post here I eh surprise.For sure he's one ah de few dat wud agree with redtrinigirl and dis TATA topic she come up with.
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Ah still cyar understand why man does get vex when ah standing straight straight an singing de anthem but in between "every creed an race find ah equal place" an "an may god bless we warrior nation", ah does take ah lil drink to wet mih vocal chords so dat ah could finish with mih strong baritone.
Ah doh feel ah disrepecting anybody.
You does do dat too?
Oh gorm I thought it was only me!
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i never saw this ah ever being a topic, arrow!!
ah comment and a topic are two different things!!
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Ah still cyar understand why man does get vex when ah standing straight straight an singing de anthem but in between "every creed an race find ah equal place" an "an may god bless we warrior nation", ah does take ah lil drink to wet mih vocal chords so dat ah could finish with mih strong baritone.
Ah doh feel ah disrepecting anybody.
haha...yeah in between those lines, yuh's hadda find a way to restore yuh baritone fuh de finale...I's just breathe deep swallow a lil saliva..... :rotfl:
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insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
and here comes davejenny to de rescue!!!!!!!!! Jack was sober when he told you dat DJ? ;D ;D ;D
warmonga..
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and here comes davejenny to de rescue!!!!!!!!! Jack was sober when he told you dat DJ?
warmonga..
LOL allyuh not nice...
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I feel the woman who start this thread is Denise Belfon. Really..look at she words.
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insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
and here comes davejenny to de rescue!!!!!!!!! Jack was sober when he told you dat DJ? ;D ;D ;D
warmonga..
:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Ah did see dat but ah eh say nuttin. ;D
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poor gyul ah jes hope she en start thinkin dat she cud fly like dat italian guy. p.s. stay away from tall buildins dear ;D
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What do you want to know about Trinidad & Tobago's most prolific goalscorer at the International level? Well, now is your chance to get up close and personal with Stern John.
In the inaugural issue of the Warrior Nation (http://www.thewarriornation.com) magazine, fans will get a chance to have their questions answered by Stern. In order to participate in this Q&A session, please e-mail your question(s) to publishing@thewarriornation.com. The deadline for submissions is Friday, September 22nd, 2006.
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where do I start
I need a pen and paper
4k dat I need a sketch pad cause is real questions
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Oh lawd.....anybody but Disgruntled_Trini ;D
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with disgruntle's input this maybe one of the most enthrawling articles i'll ever read...
get your coke some extra ice pop an extra bag of pop corn and buy a new surround sound system...
an epic battle may be unfolding out right before us...
and we have front row seats.
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where do I start
I need a pen and paper
4k dat I need a sketch pad cause is real questions
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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Stern, what did you do to Digruntled and have you ever made the effort to help him get over it?
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1) Were you content or very frustrated with your performance level at the world cup?
2) Do you have any tentative plans for retirement in the distant future?
3) Do you have a cousin named Berris?
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Has your style/game changed since your knee injury at Notts. Forest ? Did it affect your National Team effectiveness ?
Does Conventry seem to be your final big club ?
How impressed are you with your younger strike partners, and can you help them develop to the point where they would be capable of replacing you in the future ?
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What in your opinion is wrong with the PFL?
What should clubs in T&T do to add credibility to there teams/players?
Compare the difference in attitudes towards the game between pro players in England, and pro players in T&T.
Share your thoughts on the Jack Warner controversy, and do you believe that a negative outcome would hamper T&T football?
What are your plans after your playing days are over - some have said that you may start a daycare is this in the works? ;D :devil:
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Stern,
Congratulations on a prolific career in national land international football. You've made a nation proud.
Something tells me we haven't seen the last of you yet inspite of all your accomplishments on the global stage.
Question: To what would you attribute your failure to explode at the EPL level with Birmingham? There is no question about your proven abilities. Would your injury sustained while at Forest have contributed to a tentative approach? Was it a lack of quality service? Thanks! Blessings for the future.
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Who is the best player you ever played with ?
Who is your favorite player ?
What do you have to say to the fans and armchair critics ?
Do you plan to play in the TT Pro League a the end of your career ?
What do you think about Leo's choice to limit Latapy's playing time ?
Will try for another World Cup ?
Name one thing necessary to improve the quality of football in Trinidad and Tobago ?
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Allyuh read de part where Tallman say to send the questions to publishing@thewarriornation.com right??
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1. Did you ever make it to the world cup? Stern: Yes I was deh on thee field for all thee games. Well I asked because no one seemed to have seen you. :rotfl:
2. Between you and Yorke who do you think is better? Stern: I must say Yorke is the Master...I'm tryna follow his foot steps. ;)
3. Why when yuh bother playing ball he does only be saying" time...time...time"? Stern: LOL He does still do that? :rotfl:
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All raedy posted my question as I followed Tallman's instructions.
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All raedy posted my question as I followed Tallman's instructions.
I just makin sure. I guess everybody just copy their questions here. Arright.
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Q1: are there football groupies for championship players?
Q2: what is the difference in the calibre of championship groupies as compared to premiership groupies?
these is serious question.
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Q1: are there football groupies for championship players?
Q2: what is the difference in the calibre of championship groupies as compared to premiership groupies?
these is serious question.
:rotfl:
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Stern, when are you planning to retire?? especially from National Duty...
Can you on your way out take Jack along with you??
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bc of the injury you sustained b4 the WC, was this the reason for your change in playing style from when you played in the 2002 campaign?
what players currently in and out of trinidad would you say is most likely to to come close or surpass your scoring record..
who is your favorite tt player and why and also intl player and why
why do you think tt players are gettin snubbed for the EPL? Do you think tt players should explore other options in europe, rather than just the UK..
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Stern, you really feel it right for you to be subjecting people to that display of shit game in, game out?
You really feel it right for you to be on a Breeze ad with yuh moms?
How much children you really have? (we all want to know?
Wha went through yuh head when yuh miss that penalty against Mexico.
It has been rumoured that you fight down Scott Sealy, is there any truth to this?
It has also been rumoured that you Dwight and Russel have a floor for you selves in Crown Plaza, care to comment?
When T&T doh have possession of the ball does it ever occur to you to run back at all, or you jes to good for that?
You got a total of about 5 touches in 3 games at the world cup?
(i)Was it due to a lack of service?
(ii)Was it because you are static up top?
(iii)Do you think another striker who is a little more mobile would have done better?
Do you plan on retiring and if so when, give us a date, round it off so we have something to look forward to.
Do you consider your self a world class striker?
Given you prolific strike rate against such hardened defensive teams like Antigua, St Kitts and Barbados to name a few do you consider yourself T&T's best striker?
What areas of your game do you think you need to work on?
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disgruntled, i so figga you was in chappelle show player hater's ball eh... jah u could hate on stern... :rotfl:
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Lawd disgruntled...de man say questions...not an interrogation
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disgruntled, i so figga you was in chappelle show player hater's ball eh... jah u could hate on stern... :rotfl:
(http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/haterade.gif) want some???
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INTERVIEW WITH STERN JOHN
Interviewer : Stern there is evidence,on this board, that you have ah horn
chile that you have never taken responsibility for,is that true?
Stern : Well there are certain things I'm not proud off and after
reading dis forum I realize I really f@$k up.
Interviewer : Wud you care tuh name and claim de outside child ?
Stern : I will come clean, as it is very clear for all to see how much
hate this ting my son has for me.
To make ah long story short... ah cokey eye one foot gyul
ketch mey drunk ah night coming outta ah club and ah was
weak so ah borrow meh padnah DUTTY ''rusty vauxhaul'' and
beat it properly in de back seat ....de rest is history ,4 months
later I get ah call from onezee saying ah have ah
premature born Disgruntled Trini child.
Interviewer : Made any attempt to contact your daughter son?
Stern : You hah tuh be piping ,yuh ever see how ugly that lil
f@$ker is ? dey say he is de fust child ever get money in he
hand tuh leave ah hospital becuz of he looks.
The child face cudda turn back ah stampede.
Interviewer : Well Stern it has been nice speaking to you,thanks for
clearing up alot of things for us as you can see your son
Disgruntled Trini is your worst enemy here and you can't
blame him after all you turned your back on him do you
think that one day you all can mend de relationship ?
Stern : To be honest over de years I have spent 4 million pounds
trying to get the best mental help for him but Doctors from
all over de world have come up with de same conclusion...
that ah marble smarter than him.They say his brain is de
equivalent to ah bigstone ,so is nuttin I cud do now.
When my career is over I may be going into hunting and I
wud need and few pothounds and if my horn chile
Disgruntled Trini is still barking like de dusbin terrier he really
is then maybe I'll have ah job for him and we can mend our
differences ....until den ...HI SON ...is me Daddy.
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INTERVIEW WITH STERN JOHN
Interviewer : Stern there is evidence,on this board, that you have ah horn
chile that you have never taken responsibility for,is that true?
Stern : Well there are certain things I'm not proud off and after
reading dis forum I realize I really f@$k up.
Interviewer : Wud you care tuh name and claim de outside child ?
Stern : I will come clean, as it is very clear for all to see how much
hate this ting my son has for me.
To make ah long story short... ah cokey eye one foot gyul
ketch mey drunk ah night coming outta ah club and ah was
weak so ah borrow meh padnah DUTTY ''rusty vauxhaul'' and
beat it properly in de back seat ....de rest is history ,4 months
later I get ah call from onezee saying ah have ah
premature born Disgruntled Trini child.
Interviewer : Made any attempt to contact your daughter son?
Stern : You hah tuh be piping ,yuh ever see how ugly that lil
f@$ker is ? dey say he is de fust child ever get money in he
hand tuh leave ah hospital becuz of he looks.
Interviewer : Well Stern it has been nice speaking to you,thanks for
clearing up alot of things for us as you can see your son
Disgruntled Trini is your worst enemy here and you can't
blame him after all you turned your back on him do you
think that one day you all can mend de relationship ?
Stern : To be honest over de years I have spent 4 million pounds
trying to get the best mental help for him but Doctors from
all over de world have come up with de same conclusion...
that ah marble smarter than him.They say his brain is de
equivalent to ah bigstone ,so is nuttin I cud do now.
When my career is over I may be going to hunting and I
wud need and few pothounds and if my horn chile
Disgruntled Trini is still barking like de dusbin terrier he really
is then maybe I'll have ah job for him and we can mend our
differences ....until den ...HI SON ...is me Daddy.
alyu do eat easy nah :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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by the way disgruntled, I like the ad with Stern and his mummy. ;D ;D
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INTERVIEW WITH STERN JOHN
Interviewer : Stern there is evidence,on this board, that you have ah horn
chile that you have never taken responsibility for,is that true?
Stern : Well there are certain things I'm not proud off and after
reading dis forum I realize I really f@$k up.
Interviewer : Wud you care tuh name and claim de outside child ?
Stern : I will come clean, as it is very clear for all to see how much
hate this ting my son has for me.
To make ah long story short... ah cokey eye one foot gyul
ketch mey drunk ah night coming outta ah club and ah was
weak so ah borrow meh padnah DUTTY ''rusty vauxhaul'' and
beat it properly in de back seat ....de rest is history ,4 months
later I get ah call from onezee saying ah have ah
premature born Disgruntled Trini child.
Interviewer : Made any attempt to contact your daughter son?
Stern : You hah tuh be piping ,yuh ever see how ugly that lil
f@$ker is ? dey say he is de fust child ever get money in he
hand tuh leave ah hospital becuz of he looks.
Interviewer : Well Stern it has been nice speaking to you,thanks for
clearing up alot of things for us as you can see your son
Disgruntled Trini is your worst enemy here and you can't
blame him after all you turned your back on him do you
think that one day you all can mend de relationship ?
Stern : To be honest over de years I have spent 4 million pounds
trying to get the best mental help for him but Doctors from
all over de world have come up with de same conclusion...
that ah marble smarter than him.They say his brain is de
equivalent to ah bigstone ,so is nuttin I cud do now.
When my career is over I may be going to hunting and I
wud need and few pothounds and if my horn chile
Disgruntled Trini is still barking like de dusbin terrier he really
is then maybe I'll have ah job for him and we can mend our
differences ....until den ...HI SON ...is me Daddy.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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After our first game at the world cup, seeing that Latas was not used, did either you or Yorke try to speak to Beenie about playing Latas vs England, since you 2 are the next most senior players on team.
Now that you saw what Latas did vs Paraguay, do you have any regrets for not speaking on behalf of Latas, assuming that you didn't.
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You have played for Nottingham Forrest, Birmingham City, Coventry City and a short stint at Derby.
How hard is it to adjust when moving from club to club, city to city?
Is there anything that you do mentally in order to adjust?
Of all your goals, which was your technical favourite and which is your emotional favourite?
When next are we going to see "The Stern Turn"?
Do you prefer the left- or right-footed Stern Turn?
Can you send me a Coventry City #14 home jersey?
My address is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Thanks.
Peter
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Can you send me a Coventry City #14 home jersey?
yuh have plum to pick and car to wash?
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1. What point in your footballing development do you think was the most critical?
2. At what age and with what team did you realise you were on your way?
Corny answer is "I always knew." If that is your answer then maybe you can say when others in charge of your footballing development knew you were going to be a Professional player.
3. What type of familiar scoring situations are your bread and butter? Has this changed over the years? (not counting simple tap ins)
4. Which defense or defender in Concacaf do you most look forward to playing against?
5. Do you invest in the stock market or have some investment portfolio? (checking to see if we players $$ savvy ;D)
6. Do you think it is worthwhile for our Pro players to consider playing in the Mexican league. Can you comment as a player what type of obstacles might prevent you from playing there? It is arguably one of the most successful and lucrative leagues in the Western Hemisphere and one of the few that is able to tap into the lucrative US television market through Spanish stations.
7. Do you believe opportunities for our players are limited by the narrow market focus of current agents?
8. Have you ever had the urge to log into SW.net and comment on a topic? Do you have an under cover agent on SW.net (no need to name names) :rotfl:
9. Ok this is a word association test to learn more about you. Say the first thing that comes to mind when you hear:
Disgruntled_trini
Berris
Hannibal
Derby
Warrior Nation
Zen
Pele
South Africa
(if you'll have more suggestions for the word association post them...I will send this in later today)
Ok now for the Warrior Nation magazine people.
I suggest we do a little research on the submitted questions to see if he has answered them before. Repeat questions are fine if they may have a new answer or just worth asking.
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Whenever yuh gyul see de #14 she does give it up real easy lol
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Stern John will make his 100th cap for TnT on Wednesday against Panama
Love him or Hate him he deserves this tribute..
.....STERN 14......
Pictures:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/stern2.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/stern1.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/vsPanama_06042005_2.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/stern.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/shaking_hands_11172005.jpg)
Goals: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=14305.0
Stats: 67 Goals in 99 Games!(included 2 goals vs SVG) http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html
THERE IS ONLY ONE STERN "THE GOAL-SCORING MACHINE!" JOHN
Thank You Stern John
Small Magician
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All praise and credit for one who continually answers the call for TNT.
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Men could say what they want Stern has score against some big teams they keep saying he only score them goals against poor opposition
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Stern!!!!! # 1
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Stern is a modern day legend in Trindad and Tobago Football, i think he will only be truly appreciated after he hangs up his boots and someone else has to fill it.
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ya lookin good out there
you must be workin real hard
thanks
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For God so loved Trinidad and Tobago football that he sent us a goal-scorer. His name is Stern John.
(http://www.weltfussball.de/bilder/spieler/10001.jpg)
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No one can question where his heart and dedication lies when it comes to TnT football
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There is not much tuh say here, de man is just ah boss when it comes tuh scoring goals fuh T&T. Bless.
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Nice post Small Magician.
Ah want to see a Stern Turn real bad!
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BIG-UP to Stern! T&T would not have been to our 1st World Cup if it wasn't for his MAJOR role in helping to get us there!
Stern has EARNED our respect and deserves this tribute!
Nice one SM! :thumbsup:
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Ok ok...so he is not mih favourite player in de world, but give jack his Jacket....his goals did get us to de World Cup and he making he 100th Cap on Wednesday....
Must salute him for his efforts.... :beermug:
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That's our captain in South Africa?
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That's our captain in South Africa?
That was our captain for all the early round qualifiers before Yorke came back....Either he or Lawrence for nex rounds
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That's our captain in South Africa?
yuh tink he will be still around.
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big up sten man all the time, great goal scorer
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Vive the Stern Turn, Vive John Stern...
Respect to the one and only #14 :salute:
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nice one small mags...that's my dog!!!
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The man is make we laugh and cry u have to be special to do that. Big up Stern.
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Yes stern yu is a Boss. Anytime mi buck stern up him haffi sign an Autograph shirt fi mi, no joke. I memeber when stern scored dat hattrick against Coloumbia mi say to myself ...this guy is great!!!! yu a de boss stern.
war..
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We need to keep this tribute going! Stern makes his 100th CAP for T&T tomorrow!
Warrior Nation are we still planning that surprise? 8)
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He is truely one of our best. Nuff respect to d man. Is ah love hate thing we hav for him ah kinda Tobago love ;D We are truely blessed to hav d man
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His goals against Mexico were priceless.
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great post dere :applause:
i had a game tom, but being de 100th game for stern, i hav to be most present,
i`ll look out for de big flag eh fellars ;D
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hope he scores 2moro...that would put the icing on the cake.....
..warmonga i have his signature on my jersey
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Congrats to Mr. John and a special thankyou for his services to date. My fren half-slab, this is truly a milestone and I hope you know that all your efforts are truly appreciated by the fans especially me.. though I can be a "little" critical ;)
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I salute you Stern. You are a true Warrior who has put in heart and soul for T&T and persevered. Your achievements are not too be taken for granted. I compel all youngsters to get onto broadband right now and get an education on goal scoring by clicking on Sports, then Goals Galore Trinbago Style, then Stern John's goals and sit back and marvel at your performance which is there for posterity :beermug: :beermug:. Boss! Additional kudos on your new level of fitness, your exploits in Coventry and your mentoring of "Me Mum" Birchall
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I was taught that if I have don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all..... so I keepin shut
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I hope Stern scores a Hattrick today!!
STERNTURNINHO IN THEY TAIL TODAY!! Hope we give them 5 too!!
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I was taught that if I have don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all..... so I keepin shut
If that was true you would have refrain from posting that comment all together! ::)
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I was taught that if I have don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all..... so I keepin shut
If that was true you would have refrain from posting that comment all together! ::)
did not say it, it was implied.... ;)
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from playin together in trincity to seeing him sit on the bench at eldo and still lead the team in scoring to seeing hime shine on the club and international scene...stern deserves all the praises and kudos he gets. he has never avoided his destiny to be one of trinidad and tobago's greatest players and i am glad he was blessed enough to fulfill ah coaches dream (Arthur "jap" Brown) who once said that this boy has the potential to become trinidad's all time leading goal scorer and an influential footballer in trinidad and tobago's history. who could have thought it would have been as important as it became.
nuff respect stern...yuh make trincity united and cane farm proud!!! :beermug: :beermug:
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Stern, I feel has 2 more ambitions he won't let go of. (1)To play in the Premier league and (2) to score a World Cup Goal. He was 1/2 a millimetre away from the 2nd until Terry desperately cleared the ball from the goal line against England. We were almost 1-0 against England with Sven cold sweating and London Bridge on the verge of collapse. Damn!
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Stern is 8th in the world for scoring for his country........score today and ya gobe 6th
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That's our captain in South Africa?
That ent happening pardner,but I'm sure he'll be there...........
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Stern is 8th in the world for scoring for his country........score today and ya gobe 6th
note that the man is 10 goals behind Pele and u could expect another WC campaign out of him... maybe a 2nd if he that good, though that kinda pushing it... but Pele lying in 3rd for the highest international goals ever,so it would be a great achievement for stern to get past him and maybe creat some space b4 he finally retire
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Stern is 8th in the world for scoring for his country........score today and ya gobe 6th
8th in the World for scoring for his country?! I didn't even realise dat!!
Major BIG-up to Stern keep up the goals and he could even challenge for no.1 score in the World for his country before he retires! 8)
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John fancies City's promotion bid.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
National team striker Stern John has outlined his belief that both the Sky Blues and his former club Birmingham City would be promotion contenders for the English Premiership this season. The former Blues favourite was left disappointed after Coventry City fell to a 1-0 reverse on Tuesday.
But the striker saw good signs from the game for both teams. He today he said it was vital that they came on strong at the business end of the season.
"Definitely we can look to the top six," said the Trinidad & Tobago star in the Coventry Telegraph.
"We just need to stay in the top half of the table until Christmas and then go for that run, like we did at Birmingham.
"You need to stay around the top 10 and hope you have all your players fit so you can put together a strong sequence of results.
"The real football begins right after Christmas. A lot of teams go on a run early then they hit a brick wall.
"If you can build momentum going to the end of the season, that's ideal. We have to compose ourselves and not panic.
It's a long season and with no-one really out of sight in this league, you need to get some consistency.
"Birmingham should be up there. They have a big squad and some decent players. The manager is good. I rate Steve Bruce.He knows how to get the best out of his players and as long as you work hard and are honest, he will play you."
John, who was Coventry's most dangerous player, paid tribute to Blues' defence.
"Credit to Birmingham. They have almost a Premiership team," he said.
"Tiny [Martin Taylor] and Jaidi are strong and very physical. In this league, you need that kind of presence.
"I think they coped with Kevin Kyle, Dele Adebola and myself really well. We needed to get the ball out wide and put crosses in the box because we were playing to their strengths lumping it up a bit.I guess we have a lot of stuff to work on still."
John had Coventry's best chances but he was a little bit rusty after missing more than a week due to an ankle wound that required stitches.
"I should have done better and hit the target with a few of mine," he admitted. But when you haven't trained for four or five games and you come straight back into it, you miss your sharpness and stuff. John has been called up by head coach Wim Rijsbergen for T&T's friendly versus Austria in Vienna on November 15."
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John: Youngsters must set goals.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
A year and a few days marking this countrys qualification for Germany 2006, prolific goalscorer Stern John wants to see aspiring footballers and others in the various disciplines set themselves goals if they want to achieve success.
The Coventry City striker suffered a knee injury in Vienna on Tuesday and was forced to miss the friendly international against Austria.
But he has made it clear that he has always possessed a fighting spirit and will make a comeback. And he wants the younger generation to develop the same approach.
Young players need to set goals for themselves. They need to look closely at themselves and set out to what they want to achieve in life. It didnt just start one day for me by getting up and saying I want to be a footballer, it took years of hard work and sacrifice from a young age. And even today I am working hard and Im still the last guy to leave the training pitch.
Be your own player. Dont wait for your parents or coaches to tell you what to do. Its good to have good guidance but having your own ambitions and trying to achieve it on your own plays a major part in achieving the success. I remember also when my left foot was a lot weaker than my main right and I set out to change that. I worked on it and today sometimes I hit the ball better with my left side. The left leg is no longer just for balance or walking, John said in Vienna while out there with the Soca Warriors.
Dont let what we achieved on November 16 just be a one off. Let it be good memories and something that can inspire you to achieve even greater things, John added. Meantime, his injury is not too serious and he has been advised to rest for a week or more again before taking any further part on the pitch.
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I pray it is not a one of. My peeps decide that we get the WC fever so we goin with our without the SW. I will much rather with.
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I definitely noticed John's left foot. He has amazing power in the left foot shot like the one he blasted from 18 yards against Mexico. A complete 2-footed player. Respec' Sternturninho :beermug:
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Premier dream is still on
By Paul Gilder (The Journal)
Stern John has seen Sunderland at their best and their worst this season and, although he believes the Wearsiders cannot lose again if automatic promotion is to remain a realistic ambition, the striker is confident the Premiership is still within reach.
The Black Cats suffered a significant setback when DJ Campbell struck a last-gasp equaliser during Tuesday's dramatic draw at Birmingham and, although a failure to finish the job could cost Roy Keane's team dear, belief remains intact within the dressing room.
John had a hand in the club's first defeat this season - as a player who starred for Coventry on the opening afternoon of the campaign, scoring one of the goals that condemned Niall Quinn's men to a 2-1 reverse at the Ricoh Arena.
Having already been beaten 11 times in the league, Sunderland's automatic promotion challenge cannot sustain many more losses. But a player who has compared Keane's team to Quinn's is optimistic about the club's chances.
"The Sunderland team that I'm playing for is a totally different one to the one I played against at the start of the season," said the Trinidad and Tobago international, who exchanged the East Midlands for the North-East last month.
"The manager (Keane) has come in and assembled an entirely new squad with a different group of players. When I played against Sunderland, they seemed like a team in transition. But now, I think we are starting to look like a team who can really go places. The manager seems to have so many more options and all of the players are playing with a lot of confidence.
"We are a much better team than the one I played against - trust me on that."
Of the 11 players who lined up for the visitors at Coventry on August 6, just two (Dean Whitehead and Danny Collins) were in the team that started at St Andrew's this week.
It is a statistic which illustrates the full extent of Keane's squad restructuring and the last of the 12 players acquired by the Irishman during the last six months believes a new-look Sunderland can still succeed in their quest to finish in the top two and avoid the end-of-season play-offs.
"We have gelled together really quickly," said John. "A lot of players have come to Sunderland in the last few months but we are already playing as a team and that's important.
"We are going to need that unity in the last games of the season. It would have been worse if we didn't have the games to put things right, but there is still an awful lot of this season to go. As long as we keep on believing in ourselves, I am sure we will be all right."
The Wearsiders would have been in a far stronger position had their long-held lead been sustained at St Andrew's but with the Championship's top two sides to face over the next 10 days, Keane's team can still inflict damage on those above them in the standings.
"We wanted all three points (at Birmingham), of course we did," said John. "Sometimes you have to take a point against a team that is higher than you in the league. The main thing is that we got something. The game against Derby (at the Stadium of Light on Saturday) is obviously a big one now. If we're going to get promoted, we really cannot afford to lose any more games.
"We were all over Birmingham for large parts of the game but we didn't put the game to bed. That's something we're going to have to learn from in the games that lie ahead. There are a lot of positives to take out of the match, and we shouldn't forget that we were right on top for large periods of it. Conceding the late goal was an obvious disappointment, but we have to keep rolling with the punches and continue to believe in ourselves."
Sunderland's reserves will take on Shamrock Rovers in a friendly at the Stadium of Light on Sunday (noon). Entry is free, although Under-16s must be accompanied by an adult. Turnstiles will open at 11am and free car parking will be available on a first come, first served basis.
The club's Championship fixture against Barnsley at Oakwell on March 10 will now kick off at 1.30pm.
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would be nice to see half-slab in the premiership, however if Sunderland does make it up it won't surprise me to see him back on another championship team...his luck is like that.
all the best to halfslab and the rest of the Trinbago sunderland team 8)
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would be nice to see half-slab in the premiership, however if Sunderland does make it up it won't surprise me to see him back on another championship team...his luck is like that.
all the best to halfslab and the rest of the Trinbago sunderland team 8)
Loaded with disrespect and unnecessary negativity. Pathetic. If you see him as a "slab" why wish him "all the best" anyway? I dare you to walk up to him at a stadium and say jess that.
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would be nice to see half-slab in the premiership, however if Sunderland does make it up it won't surprise me to see him back on another championship team...his luck is like that.
all the best to halfslab and the rest of the Trinbago sunderland team 8)
Loaded with disrespect and unnecessary negativity. Pathetic. If you see him as a "slab" why wish him "all the best" anyway? I dare you to walk up to him at a stadium and say jess that.
Sure buddy! The same way you will go up to Jack warner and confront him?
Show me the disrespect... (a nick name that was coined on this same forum?)
Show me the negativity that was NOT already mentioned on this same forum...
Why not wish him the best?
doh take it personal, you're probably asleep and dreaming.
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I won't say I wish Jackula all the best because I don't. Simple, no hypocrisy. I wish that every man "jack" do a little to finish him off. I say he is a cancer that must be removed to keep the rest of the body alive, and I will stick by that. You go ahead and call Stern half-slab. This is the last I have to say to self-loathing disrespectful scum like you.
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self-loathing disrespectful scum like you.
;D pot calling kettle black.
I guess you have no other choice, since you cannot address...
Show me the disrespect... (a nick name that was coined on this same forum?)
Show me the negativity that was NOT already mentioned on this same forum...
Why not wish him the best?
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"John opens Sunderland account"
Click for More Photos of the Mailman
Watch Stern's BBC Interview - Going for Promotion
Stern John's official website: http://www.sternjohn.com/
Respec' due ;)
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Ladies and gentlemen a photoshop bug catch me. Time for a desktop change. I looking for a large Stern John pic in T & T kit (preferably training). Something similar to the Dwight below.
Source: http://www.thewarriornation.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,50/Itemid,29/
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,50/Itemid,29/)
Small version of final product
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4763/dwightyorke3smallep9.jpg)
In fact I looking for any Warrior pics. Thanks in advance.
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Check our Soca Warriors Photo Gallery (http://www.socawarriors.net/gallery/). I haven't updated it in a while, but you should still be able to find plenty of pics.
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It was exciting ;D
I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.
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Yeh i did see him saturday goin and check he uncles. I go to cuss him and ask wha he doin home now...den i realise dat it was a international weekend...and he mother kinda sick these days......so he must be take some time off to check on her. I does have my problems with his work rate etc...buh i go give him his props.....he contributed a great deal to football with his goals. Thanks Stern. :beermug:
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I went through the same thought process about the international weekend, but I didn't know about his mother. I hope she gets better soon :beermug:
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It was exciting ;D
I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.
yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect
I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.
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It was exciting ;D
I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.
yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect
I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: talk is cheap...you have so much mouth....yuh always saying yuh go do dis and if yuh only see stern it go be worries and de man was rite infront yuh face and yuh eh self let off ah steupppppsss :rotfl: you should just go back and delete every negative post yuh make bout he cause yuh lose all creditability.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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It was exciting ;D
I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.
yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect
I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.
:rotfl:
you self Disgruntled, yuh coulda go up and ask him why he does pull stones and make people want to choke him sometimes
ent another time yuh had see him in Zen or 51 or something
yuh does always say yuh eh fraid to speak yuh mind about Stern but when yuh see him in person....whappen? ;D
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It was exciting ;D
I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.
yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect
I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.
Wha made yuh decide to not do it? the fact that he might sampat yuh wid licks perhaps ;D
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Q&A WITH STERN JOHN Q&A WITH STERN JOHN
What are among the highlights of the season for you?
Being able to settle in quickly at the club. As a player you have to prove yourself even if you have a reputation to upkeep. Obviously it was about being able to show them here at the club what I was capable of and in that way its been just brilliant for me. Just to be in a team that is playing to my strength is great. I had been scoring goals at Coventry but they were not creating as many chances.
Why did you go to Sunderland, Do you feel justified by this move now?
I think at the time the opportunity was a good one for me. If you look at where Sunderland were at the beginning of the season and where they are now you realize instantly that they have gone from strength to strength. Plus being able to join up with Dwight and then Carlos has been a bonus. The manager the kind of man he is also played a part. This was a chance for me to get back into the Premiership and enjoy my football.
Whats Roy Keanes mood like as a manger?
I saw him as a player and I think we all saw him as the no-nonsense type of guy. Hes exactly the same as a manager but he can relate to you as a player. You dont want to be late for his meetings and sessions and thats a good standard to have as a player anywhere. If you want him to treat you like a little guy then he will do that and if you want to be treated as a big man then show him that and youll get it in return. If you dont do the business then he will give someone else a chance.
Is perfection a key at Sunderland?
Our team is a very competitive one. Roy Keane is a perfectionist and we train just has hard as we play. I think playing at Manchester United enables him to bring that kind of confidence to the team. As a manager he also looks after the players. The club on a whole does that. There are no excuses when its time to go out on the field and get the job done. This is important for any team.
Are you worried about more strikers coming in?
I think being here is a great chance for me to go back into the Premiership. I have nothing to prove really at this stage but its just about doing my best for the club and going back into one of the most exciting Leagues with some of the best players in the world. As a footballer thats what it is about. Dont get me wrong, our Division is a good one and competitive but as a player I think playing in the Premiership is always top of the list. As for the added competition, Im not so worried about it. What is to happen will happen. I just have to maintain my focus and shape.
?Have you planned the remaining time of your career. Are you satisfied with one more season in the PremiershipI want to have a couple seasons in the Premiership but football is a funny game and you never know what can happen, I will like to finish at playing at a high level. I know I have to stay in shape and keep on looking after myself. Hopefully I can get my rewards at the end of the day.
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Whats the main advantage of having Dwight Yorke at the club? The players respect him. Dwight is Dwight anywhere. When he walks into a dressing room, he has that vibe he brings with him that can change the whole mood. If the guys are tense or down, he can help it and if we have a reason to be a bit more focused than usual, he can also take it up a notch and have the same kind of effect on the rest of us. Then he has that smile on his face and you need players like him in a dressing room. He always has the lads up and on the football side of it he knows how to get the best out of the players. His influence is massive in the dressing room and I think that is one of the main reasons the manager brought him here. Especially at this stage of the season where we are right in with a chance of being promoted, you need to have players like him around.
And Carlos Edwards. He has made a big impact right?
Carlos has been massive at the club and is definitely having a wonderful season. He is having the best run of his career in my view. The injury was unfortunate because he was flying at the time and the team missed him. But now hes back and he will perform. I think Carlos can definitely be on any Premiership team. He has the natural engine and can play at the top level. He has loads of potential and there are always players who dont fulfill all of it but he has a strong mindset and has a places to go. This is great for him.
Stern you were at one time the bright, rising talent, the one most talked about and now your role is a different one having to play the support role and more of a leader type with guys like Carlos and Kenwyne Jones moving up the ranks. Whats this adjustment been like for you?
Thats the beauty of the game. As a young player coming into a team or trying to make your name you might get a bit worried when there are others around doing well. Its natural. Its not about being bad mind or anything like that because at the end of the day its all about the team. For me now, I have matured and when you mature you understand more that there will be players who get better, be better and worth more. Experience is the is the greatest asset and its a huge part of the game. Being in the game so long helps you to understand that at times you have to make way and make the best of what you have. I have done it before. I was topscorer at Birmingham and Columbus and I paid my dues at clubs like Nottingham Forest. Personally I can still say Im performing and can still get the job done so thats a boost for me. Its an important phase because this is a funny little game.
Shaun Fuentes Interview
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tnt record scorer
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Q&A WITH STERN JOHN Q&A WITH STERN JOHN
Whats the main advantage of having Dwight Yorke at the club? The players respect him. Dwight is Dwight anywhere. When he walks into a dressing room, he has that vibe he brings with him that can change the whole mood. If the guys are tense or down, he can help it and if we have a reason to be a bit more focused than usual, he can also take it up a notch and have the same kind of effect on the rest of us. Then he has that smile on his face and you need players like him in a dressing room. He always has the lads up and on the football side of it he knows how to get the best out of the players. His influence is massive in the dressing room and I think that is one of the main reasons the manager brought him here. Especially at this stage of the season where we are right in with a chance of being promoted, you need to have players like him around.
Sounds like Dwight need to get into coaching when he is done. Sounds like a top class motivator and man manager. nothing seems to phase him and the quality of his playing career guarantees respect from any young hot up and comers who feel they done know it all
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I suprised the TTFF interview Stern in the first place
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I suprised the TTFF interview Stern in the first place
But you notice there is no mention of him playing for TnT inthe GC or the future, no mention at all about local football... hmmmm ::)
Big Up!
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Interview with the organization that eh goin and pick u in a couplemonths intresting very interesting
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they thief dat interview from some place or its fake. Stern vex with dem :rotfl:
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Stern John: Goals will flow.
By: James Hunter (Chronicle).[/size]
Stern John says there is no reason to panic at Sunderlands meagre pre-season goal return. The Black Cats have scored just four times in their four pre-season friendlies to date, missing a hatful of chances in the process.
But Trinidad and Tobago striker John is confident that the Sunderland hitmen will get it right.
He said: Obviously, its disappointing that the scorelines have not reflected the way we have dominated the games, but I really believe we shouldnt make too much of that.
For the past few weeks the strikers have been putting in the work to get their sharpness back, and I think it will come.
Its unfortunate we have missed chances in games, but that happens sometimes and theres no need to be worried because the manager and the staff know what theyre doing.
Strikers tend to take longer to be at their sharpest than other players.
With defenders you are always having players coming running at you. Midfielders work on their passing game and their overall fitness, but sometimes it takes strikers a while to find their sharpness in front of goal and that little fraction extra that you need which makes all the difference.
Sunderland finish their Irish tour with a game against Galway United at Terryland Park tonight, having beaten Bohemians 1-0 in Dublin on Saturday and drawing 1-1 with Cork City on Monday.
And before leaving for Ireland, Sunderland beat Darlington 2-0 and lost 1-0 at Scun-thorpe.
Sunderland boss Roy Keane had expressed concerns at his sides lack of goals in pre-season.
He said yesterday: Yes, Im concerned were not scoring as many goals as we should be doing. Very much so.
There would be a bigger worry if we werent creating chances, but the fact is the strikers have missed some very easy chances and their position is one were looking at all the time.
The strikers know they havent scored in two or three games, but it wont scare them.
We had plenty of chances against Cork, but hopefully if we get those chances against Galway well take them because in the Premiership, if you miss your chances, it comes back to haunt you. The fact that we havent taken our chances means weve got to address that.
Meanwhile, manager Roy Keane hopes to complete the signings of Cork City striker Roy O'Donovan and another unnamed player this week. Keane has been frustrated in his attempts to sign several players since leading the Black Cats to promotion but believes he is about to beat Fulham to O'Donovan's signature - the London side have offered 300,000 pounds rising to 500,000.
The former Manchester United star has been unable to persuade Wigan defender Leighton Baines and Hearts' Scotland goalkeeper Craig Gordon to move to the Stadium of Light.
He also lost patience with England striker Nugent and told him not to bother signing with them from Preston after he took what Keane thought was too long to decide whether he would or not - Nugent eventually signed up with Portsmouth.
He is thought to have enquired about United's Alan Smith, but Newcastle are also interested in the England striker.
"We hope to have news on Roy and one other player in the next 24 to 48 hours," Keane told Sunderland's website.
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Stern John: Goals will flow.
By: James Hunter (Chronicle).
Stern John says there is no reason to panic at Sunderlands meagre pre-season goal return. The Black Cats have scored just four times in their four pre-season friendlies to date, missing a hatful of chances in the process.
But Trinidad and Tobago striker John is confident that the Sunderland hitmen will get it right.
He said: Obviously, its disappointing that the scorelines have not reflected the way we have dominated the games, but I really believe we shouldnt make too much of that.
For the past few weeks the strikers have been putting in the work to get their sharpness back, and I think it will come.
Its unfortunate we have missed chances in games, but that happens sometimes and theres no need to be worried because the manager and the staff know what theyre doing.
Strikers tend to take longer to be at their sharpest than other players.
With defenders you are always having players coming running at you. Midfielders work on their passing game and their overall fitness, but sometimes it takes strikers a while to find their sharpness in front of goal and that little fraction extra that you need which makes all the difference.
Sunderland finish their Irish tour with a game against Galway United at Terryland Park tonight, having beaten Bohemians 1-0 in Dublin on Saturday and drawing 1-1 with Cork City on Monday.
And before leaving for Ireland, Sunderland beat Darlington 2-0 and lost 1-0 at Scun-thorpe.
Sunderland boss Roy Keane had expressed concerns at his sides lack of goals in pre-season.
He said yesterday: Yes, Im concerned were not scoring as many goals as we should be doing. Very much so.
There would be a bigger worry if we werent creating chances, but the fact is the strikers have missed some very easy chances and their position is one were looking at all the time.
The strikers know they havent scored in two or three games, but it wont scare them.
We had plenty of chances against Cork, but hopefully if we get those chances against Galway well take them because in the Premiership, if you miss your chances, it comes back to haunt you. The fact that we havent taken our chances means weve got to address that.Meanwhile, manager Roy Keane hopes to complete the signings of Cork City striker Roy O'Donovan and another unnamed player this week. Keane has been frustrated in his attempts to sign several players since leading the Black Cats to promotion but believes he is about to beat Fulham to O'Donovan's signature - the London side have offered 300,000 pounds rising to 500,000.
The former Manchester United star has been unable to persuade Wigan defender Leighton Baines and Hearts' Scotland goalkeeper Craig Gordon to move to the Stadium of Light.
He also lost patience with England striker Nugent and told him not to bother signing with them from Preston after he took what Keane thought was too long to decide whether he would or not - Nugent eventually signed up with Portsmouth.
He is thought to have enquired about United's Alan Smith, but Newcastle are also interested in the England striker.
"We hope to have news on Roy and one other player in the next 24 to 48 hours," Keane told Sunderland's website.
Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
No doubt!
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Any Trini that play for Mercer County College does handle deyself!! :devil: :devil :beermug: :beermug:
Mash dem up Stern!
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
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Any Trini that play for Mercer County College does handle deyself!! :devil: :devil :beermug: :beermug:
Mash dem up Stern!
hahahaha
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http://www.attachmax.com/John_vs_Bohemians.html
Like two days ago! :devil:
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Gosh Bakes, we trying to instill some confidence. Maybe if he makea spin home, Pablo's, zen, something like that he will be on point for the season.
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
hush yuh duking mouth nah...
When d last time allyuh Saviour Kenwyn do anything for trinidad? ohhhhh a goal against peru in a friendly ohhhhhhh
If it wasnt for those 5 goals Stern score in the hex... Germany would have been a far away dream...
Legend 14 The man that really got us to the cup
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lol, wey bakes, wha kinda talk is dat? Ah feel you and stern go have to fight. :devil:
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
hush yuh duking mouth nah...
When d last time allyuh Saviour Kenwyn do anything for trinidad? ohhhhh a goal against peru in a friendly ohhhhhhh
If it wasnt for those 5 goals Stern score in the hex... Germany would have been a far away dream...
Legend 14 The man that really got us to the cup
Shut yuh muthaf**king mouth when yuh see big people talking. Go learn tuh properly wipe yuh ass or sumting... li'l dunce ass yute
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lol, wey bakes, wha kinda talk is dat? Ah feel you and stern go have to fight. :devil:
I want Stern tuh fight wid de back ah de net...dai'z all he need tuh worry about. I tired support dis man over de years wid he inconsistent attitude towards the game and never say nutten about him...but any objective person has to get fed up with de shit he playing of late.
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
hush yuh duking mouth nah...
When d last time allyuh Saviour Kenwyn do anything for trinidad? ohhhhh a goal against peru in a friendly ohhhhhhh
If it wasnt for those 5 goals Stern score in the hex... Germany would have been a far away dream...
Legend 14 The man that really got us to the cup
Shut yuh muthaf**king mouth when yuh see big people talking. Go learn tuh properly wipe yuh ass or sumting... li'l dunce ass yute.
haha de pompeck chatting with d pitbull??
Yeh make yuh threats over d net... I cut down on the cursing but i dont need to reply to you cuz its obvious you dont know anything about trinidad football cuz if you did even if you didnt like Stern you would have respected him for getting us to the cup.... but yeh i'm the dunce one lol
See yuh later bitch
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If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
lol...aye, I open up my PM box and see this thing and I siddung dey like
"what???...what de ass I tell dis man about he chirren boy?"
I still dunno what get pardna so vex.
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http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html
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If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
lol...aye, I open up my PM box and see this thing and I siddung dey like
"what???...what de ass I tell dis man about he chirren boy?"
I still dunno what get pardna so vex.
I think is in the part where u re-write his post ....,me eh know how dat is he chirren but say what :rotfl:
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haha de pompeck chatting with d pitbull??
Yeh make yuh threats over d net... I cut down on the cursing but i dont need to reply to you cuz its obvious you dont know anything about trinidad football cuz if you did even if you didnt like Stern you would have respected him for getting us to the cup.... but yeh i'm the dunce one lol
See yuh later bitch
What 'threat' yuh see me make li'l gyal?
Look gyal go learn tuh properly break first... and ah doh just mean in yuh own pants, before yuh come say you holding any kinda talk with me yes.
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If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
lol...aye, I open up my PM box and see this thing and I siddung dey like
"what???...what de ass I tell dis man about he chirren boy?"
I still dunno what get pardna so vex.
I think is in the part where u re-write his post ....,me eh know how dat is he chirren but say what :rotfl:
Aye...hear nah, de man had mih feeling bad dred. Yuh could tell he was hurt eh...and I wouldn't blame him. I had tuh go back and read and re-read de damn thing tuh make sure I really ent say nutten 'bout mankind seed.
De wors' part is dat he heself referring tuh he own chirren as 'mongrels'...go figure.
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haha de pompeck chatting with d pitbull??
Yeh make yuh threats over d net... I cut down on the cursing but i dont need to reply to you cuz its obvious you dont know anything about trinidad football cuz if you did even if you didnt like Stern you would have respected him for getting us to the cup.... but yeh i'm the dunce one lol
See yuh later bitch
What 'threat' yuh see me make li'l gyal?
Look gyal go learn tuh properly break first... and ah doh just mean in yuh own pants, before yuh come say you holding any kinda talk with me yes.
Well i made you.. so i guess my breaking techniques are fine... Oh shit...yuh mom didnt tell u who yuh real fada is?
Biggest mistake i ever made.. you and your mudda
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http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html
He real throw 'way boy...granted that none of them were truly 'sitters' as some on de SAFC forum claim, but nah...dat was real amateurish finishing dred.
Well i made you.. so i guess my breaking techniques are fine... Oh shit...yuh mom didnt tell u who yuh real fada is?
Biggest mistake i ever made.. you and your mudda
that's nice sonny...now run along.
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aright fag... we'll talk a next time... i owe your mom some child suport.. see yuh den sonny
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http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html
Yeah those misses by stern were not sitters and they certainly were not as bad as people in the sunderland forum were making it sound. He created two of those chances with defenders on his back. He just needs to work on the "stern-turn" some more. The finishing was not professional or sharp, he needs to step it up, but that's the purpose of pre-season training games. Hopefully he will sharpen up before the start of the season.
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Meanwhile, manager Roy Keane hopes to complete the signings of Cork City striker Roy O'Donovan and another unnamed player this week.
"We hope to have news on Roy and one other player in the next 24 to 48 hours," Keane told Sunderland's website.
Wonder is this other player Spann?
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
Go easy son, this man will come good soon enuff.
It had men in here reall bad talking him early in the hex , we even set up ah internal support committee (dais even before Berris ) men like shotta, morvantman etc.
Then the 14 start ....
So if yuh disrepecting do it with some finesse with yuh pardners in the back.
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Go easy son, this man will come good soon enuff.
It had men in here reall bad talking him early in the hex , we even set up ah internal support committee (dais even before Berris ) men like shotta, morvantman etc.
Then the 14 start ....
So if yuh disrepecting do it with some finesse with yuh pardners in the back.
I dunno which 'pardners' yuh referring to nah saddis'...but as even my gyul would attest, I've been supporting Stern long enough to earn de right to finally say "enough of the half-assing already". I know some ah allyuh have filial ties wid Stern and what not...and that's cool. But when you're in a position such as Stern, Yorke, Edwards etc...with the adulation comes the criticism, part and parcel with the profession.
When Stern eventually does well, I will be among his loudest supporters...in the mean time when he shitting on heself on de field...especially with so much on de line (a vaunted shot-for him, in the Premiership) I will get on his ass as much as I alone feel is necessary.
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http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html
Yeah those misses by stern were not sitters and they certainly were not as bad as people in the sunderland forum were making it sound. He created two of those chances with defenders on his back. He just needs to work on the "stern-turn" some more. The finishing was not professional or sharp, he needs to step it up, but that's the purpose of pre-season training games. Hopefully he will sharpen up before the start of the season.
Agreed, Stern getting abuse from the Sunderland fans cause they never wanted him in the first place. If yuh watch their forums they done right him off already, most doh even consider him part of the team......yet he still there! So is no surprise they over-emphasizing his misses, most players that are poorly rated by Fans suffer similar fates. They ignore or dismiss what he does well and concentrate on what he does poorly just so they can say...."told ya, what ah waste of space". Good luck Stern! yuh got a tough crowd there.
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http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html
Yeah those misses by stern were not sitters and they certainly were not as bad as people in the sunderland forum were making it sound. He created two of those chances with defenders on his back. He just needs to work on the "stern-turn" some more. The finishing was not professional or sharp, he needs to step it up, but that's the purpose of pre-season training games. Hopefully he will sharpen up before the start of the season.
Agreed, Stern getting abuse from the Sunderland fans cause they never wanted him in the first place. If yuh watch their forums they done right him off already, most doh even consider him part of the team......yet he still there! So is no surprise they over-emphasizing his misses, most players that are poorly rated by Fans suffer similar fates. They ignore or dismiss what he does well and concentrate on what he does poorly just so they can say...."told ya, what ah waste of space". Good luck Stern! yuh got a tough crowd there.
If again
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I saw the highlights and i agree with you guys, those were not sitters. He still should have done better with those chances since he aspires to be a premiership level striker, but i still believe that he isnt too far off his game.
ah love it!!
nb: he shoulda score de tap in though!!
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Go easy son, this man will come good soon enuff.
It had men in here reall bad talking him early in the hex , we even set up ah internal support committee (dais even before Berris ) men like shotta, morvantman etc.
Then the 14 start ....
So if yuh disrepecting do it with some finesse with yuh pardners in the back.
I dunno which 'pardners' yuh referring to nah saddis'...but as even my gyul would attest, I've been supporting Stern long enough to earn de right to finally say "enough of the half-assing already". I know some ah allyuh have filial ties wid Stern and what not...and that's cool. But when you're in a position such as Stern, Yorke, Edwards etc...with the adulation comes the criticism, part and parcel with the profession.
When Stern eventually does well, I will be among his loudest supporters...in the mean time when he shitting on heself on de field...especially with so much on de line (a vaunted shot-for him, in the Premiership) I will get on his ass as much as I alone feel is necessary.
Sorry I'm not around respond immediately to your explanation of why you describe Stern's recent performances in such a vitriolic way, anyhow all players in sport regardless of the level go through flat periods but what makes them good is how they respond to it. Stern has a history of switching off and on and it is normally associated with his weight and fitness, at this time he is only at about 90% of where he wants to be and the training he is doing will see him back to 100% in a week or 2.
So hold some strain and lets see if he really is not premiership material.
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Sorry I'm not around respond immediately to your explanation of why you describe Stern's recent performances in such a vitriolic way,
My friend, choose yuh words better. 'Vitriol' would be me saying "Stern John is ah shithung"...and other comments in keeping with the tone over on the SAFC board. I said the man jacking off on himself on the field. Can you honestly look at his recent performance and say that his finish near the box has been anything even approximating 'professional'?
anyhow all players in sport regardless of the level go through flat periods but what makes them good is how they respond to it. Stern has a history of switching off and on
..and you somehow find this acceptable??
This "switching off and on" is an Intercol mentality, not one that is becoming of a professional athlete. You can't play with diligence when you feel and then dog it when you don't...that wouldn't fly in any ole office job, why should it be okay for a professional athlete on the cusp of performing on one of the highest stages in his sport? Does Yorke or Latas or even Henry 'switch it on and off'? How long should fans like myself keep making excuses for his inconsistency?
and it is normally associated with his weight and fitness, at this time he is only at about 90% of where he wants to be and the training he is doing will see him back to 100% in a week or 2.
So hold some strain and lets see if he really is not premiership material.
Well I never said that he isn't Prem material...and like I said I want fuh de man to do well, if for nothing else to silence his critics and justify the faith shown in him by Keane, and especially by Yorke...on whose recommendation he was given the opportunity.
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http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=6941&season=2006-2007
Look like the SAFC website take Stern and his four goals off the stat sheet for 2006-2007? ???
Hmmmm
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NO ONE HAS MENTIONED HIS NAME IN A LONG TIME
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He came on as a sub in one game. Played OK. Missed a couple chances.
He started the game after that. Played crap. Got subbed at half time.
He was on the bench yesterday. Didn't play.
That's it, so far
Some Southampton fans already start crying him down: http://www.thesaintsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=25144
I tried to defend him in that thread. But maybe... as sad as it would be to admit... Stern John just ain't Stern John no more. Who knows what going on with Stern.
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Monkey like yuh really doh know Stern John.
This is part of the strategy.
After a couple of months of frustrating the shit out of the coach, teammates and fans, he will pop up and score goal after goal all the way up to the end of season.
That is how he like it.
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Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Southern Daily Echo
JASON Euell missed a second-half penalty but Stern John's strike before the interval was enough to clinch A 1-0 victory for Saints against Blackpool at St Mary's.
George Burley's side, desperate to get back to winning ways after a 5-0 thumping at Sheffield Wednesday last time out, at least managed to put that nightmare display firmly behind them.
The early stages of the Coca-Cola Championship game were disrupted by a series of free-kicks but it was the home side who settled more quickly with Bradley Wright-Phillips having a fifth-minute shot on goal blocked by Shaun Barker.
But Blackpool hit back to create an opening of their own just two minutes later only for Kaspars Gorkss to fire wide from 18 yards.
As both sides stepped up the pace Southampton's Nathan Dyer had his right-footed effort blocked by Gorkss.
George Burley's side continued to press but despite plenty of possession they were unable to carve out any clear-cut chances in the opening 10 minutes.
The visitors suffered a blow after just 15 minutes when they were forced into a change with the injured Tony McMahon replaced by Stephen Crainey.
As Southampton continued to push, Wright-Phillips had another shot from distance blocked midway through the first half.
But it was Blackpool who almost snatched the lead on the half-hour when Andy Morrell's effort rebounded off the post.
It was a let-off for the home side who up until that staged had looked the more likely to break the deadlock.
Just five minutes later, however, they did just that with John converting from close range after being put in by Wright-Phillips.
But John then missed a chance to double the advantage as he headed over from six yards.
But John was unlucky not to double both his and his team's tally six minutes after the restart as his 20-yard shot cannoned off the crossbar.
Southampton then spurned a gilt-edged opportunity to make it two when they were awarded a penalty after 52 minutes following a foul on Euell by Shaun Barker.
The former Charlton and Middlesbrough striker stepped up to take the spot-kick himself and although he struck it well, Blackpool goalkeeper Paul Rachubka saved superbly.
Blackpool then carved out a rare opportunity shortly afterwards but Southampton goalkeeper Kelvin Davis was equal to Gary Taylor-Fletcher's shot.
Both sides then made changes with Wesley Hoolahan replacing Andrew Welsh before the unfortunate Euell made way for Jhon Viafara.
The visitors subsequently opted for another tactical switch in an effort to get back on terms with Claus Jorgensen replaced by David Fox after 69 minutes.
Fox tried his luck from 25 yards with 13 minutes remaining but was well wide and in the dying moments Blackpool saw a chance to level go begging when Taylor-Fletcher headed over from close range.
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Good job eh turn-inho
..but ah never see ah man who could hit post and crossbar so. Like iz be 2 times or so per game. Whaiz dah one boy? Ah jess cyah undastan it ..... :o
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Very glad to see that Stern continuing to rip up.
According to Wikipedia this is his best strike rate at an English club so far, 5 in 9 games.
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:applause: :applause: ....He eh name 'Bound tuh score' fuh nuttin..De only way #14 will stop scoring goals is when he retire but once he on dah pitch regularly ,with any team, in any league... he 'Bound tuh score' on ah regular basis ..
With de kinda ah shit Sunderland playing and if they continue to play so, I cud see Stern and Southampton taking dey spot in the Prems next year.Stern definately showing his worth and once he continue to score at this rate Southampton have ah chance to get promoted.....
Well Done #14 ...dey cyar stop yuh :applause: :applause:
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SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....
God is de BOSS....
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SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....
God is de BOSS....
hoss yuh sounding dumb as f**k like triniscout... Dwight has retired
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SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....
God is de BOSS....
hoss yuh sounding dumb as f**k like triniscout... Dwight has retired
Ditto. ditto.
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Stern goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxd0tkBP2YU
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SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....
God is de BOSS....
hoss yuh sounding dumb as f**k like triniscout... Dwight has retired
He was also 'retired' before the Germany campaign. You might want to hold off on the authoritative pronouncements and see what develops before you start cussing and calling people 'dumb'.
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all of allya KNOW that Dwight has retired before and he did come back............there is always hope
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all of allya KNOW that Dwight has retired before and he did come back............there is always hope
de man playing epl ball and starting, what make allyuh feel he wont be fit in 2 years still? we need a holding mid like yorkie, who else other than leon and whitley could handle the link, maybe bleeder but i rather see him in an offensive role... birchall cant distribute and hold a mid like yorke...
God is de BOSS...
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keep up the good work Stern..... ;D
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:applause: :applause: ....He eh name 'Bound tuh score' fuh nuttin..De only way #14 will stop scoring goals is when he retire but once he on dah pitch regularly ,with any team, in any league... he 'Bound tuh score' on ah regular basis ..
With de kinda ah shit Sunderland playing and if they continue to play so, I cud see Stern and Southampton taking dey spot in the Prems next year.Stern definately showing his worth and once he continue to score at this rate Southampton have ah chance to get promoted.....
Well Done #14 ...dey cyar stop yuh :applause: :applause:
Eh homie, dat go be something fuh de books eh, Stern helped Birmingham and Sunderland tuh get promoted tuh de EPL and den he helped Southampton, hopefully dey see his worth and keep him at Southampton when dey get promoted tuh de EPL. My gawd, dat will be ah story on bound tuh score. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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all of allya KNOW that Dwight has retired before and he did come back............there is always hope
de man playing epl ball and starting, what make allyuh feel he wont be fit in 2 years still? we need a holding mid like yorkie, who else other than leon and whitley could handle the link, maybe bleeder but i rather see him in an offensive role... birchall cant distribute and hold a mid like yorke...
God is de BOSS...
To be honest I rather see Birch in the mid shooting and scoring than to see Yorke playing a role that his legs ain't fit for, just my opinion and I know alot will disagree.
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Look how Stern John come back deadly as ever.
Stern go top score in CONCACAF qualifyin again.
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SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....
God is de BOSS....
I more worried about who gonna handle the defence!! the way our defence shaping up right now, we cud have ronaldinho in the middle but we go stilll be in trouble. who in the back???
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SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....
God is de BOSS....
I more worried about who gonna handle the defence!! the way our defence shaping up right now, we cud have ronaldinho in the middle but we go stilll be in trouble. who in the back???
Exactly. Men talkin bout Lawrence and Dog still.
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Stern shrugs off pressure
saintsfc.co.uk
Stern John insists he is not feeling the pressure of firing Saints to safety.
Survival hopes are pinned on the finishing power of the Trinidad and Tobago international.
His nose for goal has established him as the club's leading marksman with 17 since his free transfer from Sunderland at the start of the season.
Saints desperately need him to continue finding the net in their final two fixtures at West Brom on Monday and at home to Sheffield United on Sunday May 4 - tickets on general sale, book online.
And the in-form frontman is relishing the responsibility and says he is ready to meet that challenge.
He said: "I have not been at this end of the Championship for a long time and it is a very different kind of pressure from chasing promotion.
"I have played under pressure all my career so it does not bother me. I just need to compose myself, relax and everything will fall into place.
"Every time I step onto the pitch I feel like I will score. I will always get a chance at some stage in the game, it is a question of waiting for it and making it count.
"I love scoring goals so I don't feel under any real pressure. I will play my normal game and try my best to score.
"There is no extra responsibility for me. It is not just about me, it is about the team and it does not matter who scores as long as we get the three points.
"We have plenty of match-winners in our side and as long as we win the match, I will be happy because there is so much at stake.
"Last week's game against Burnley was frustrating for me but that has been the story of our season. We have played better against the top sides and then not beaten the sides near the bottom.
"But that is the way the Championship is, it is so inconsistent. And hopefully we can now go to West Brom and win.
"We beat them at St Mary's and I got a couple of goals so we have to try and repeat that although it will be tough.
"They are one of the best footballing teams in the Championship and they play the game the right way.
"They deserve to be top and to win promotion but hopefully we can spoil the party for them."
The relegation race is also going right to the wire and today's results will go a long way towards determining Southampton's fate.
Albion could be promoted while even a point for Sheffield Wednesday at fellow cellar-dwellers Leicester would dump Saints back in the bottom three.
They would then need to get something from the game at the Hawthorns in order to have their fate in their own hands on the final day.
John added: "It is really tight and no-one can really call it at the moment. there are five of us down there and one will go. We have to make sure it is not us.
"It is about keeping our nerve and on Monday we will need 11 players and substitutes to do their job and to play as a team.
"We are in a difficult situation but the manager has done a good job of keeping us positive and upbeat and focused.
"We are capable of going to West Brom and getting a result and that is what we have to do."
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Stern shrugs off pressure
saintsfc.co.uk
Stern John insists he is not feeling the pressure of firing Saints to safety.
Survival hopes are pinned on the finishing power of the Trinidad and Tobago international.
His nose for goal has established him as the club's leading marksman with 17 since his free transfer from Sunderland at the start of the season.
Saints desperately need him to continue finding the net in their final two fixtures at West Brom on Monday and at home to Sheffield United on Sunday May 4 - tickets on general sale, book online.
And the in-form frontman is relishing the responsibility and says he is ready to meet that challenge.
He said: "I have not been at this end of the Championship for a long time and it is a very different kind of pressure from chasing promotion.
"I have played under pressure all my career so it does not bother me. I just need to compose myself, relax and everything will fall into place.
"Every time I step onto the pitch I feel like I will score. I will always get a chance at some stage in the game, it is a question of waiting for it and making it count.
"I love scoring goals so I don't feel under any real pressure. I will play my normal game and try my best to score.
"There is no extra responsibility for me. It is not just about me, it is about the team and it does not matter who scores as long as we get the three points.
"We have plenty of match-winners in our side and as long as we win the match, I will be happy because there is so much at stake.
"Last week's game against Burnley was frustrating for me but that has been the story of our season. We have played better against the top sides and then not beaten the sides near the bottom.
"But that is the way the Championship is, it is so inconsistent. And hopefully we can now go to West Brom and win.
"We beat them at St Mary's and I got a couple of goals so we have to try and repeat that although it will be tough.
"They are one of the best footballing teams in the Championship and they play the game the right way.
"They deserve to be top and to win promotion but hopefully we can spoil the party for them."
The relegation race is also going right to the wire and today's results will go a long way towards determining Southampton's fate.
Albion could be promoted while even a point for Sheffield Wednesday at fellow cellar-dwellers Leicester would dump Saints back in the bottom three.
They would then need to get something from the game at the Hawthorns in order to have their fate in their own hands on the final day.
John added: "It is really tight and no-one can really call it at the moment. there are five of us down there and one will go. We have to make sure it is not us.
"It is about keeping our nerve and on Monday we will need 11 players and substitutes to do their job and to play as a team.
"We are in a difficult situation but the manager has done a good job of keeping us positive and upbeat and focused.
"We are capable of going to West Brom and getting a result and that is what we have to do."
Come on Stern and Southamptom, your supporters prays and hearts are with you all. EPL, next season, wow. What a story you will have to tell your kid or kids. Best of luck my brother. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Stern had a great year and he has handled his trade to Southampton like a true professional. He got in great shape and did what he does best in scorng goals. It seems like everyteam he plays with he leaves a lasting impression and truly helps the clubs out in a massive way. He is truly a cult hero and now at Southampton he came through one again to save the club from relegation to league one. He is a legend. Congrats Stern and keep up the good work.
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STERN is ah bosssssss....BRACEMAN ...
Tallman ya good?
but that first yellow is really CRAP.......tarnishes the beautiful game.
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STERN is ah bosssssss....BRACEMAN ...
Tallman ya good?
but that first yellow is really CRAP.......tarnishes the beautiful game.
Serious case of deja vu there.
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Stern yuh have meh a happy man today. Like de mailman, yuh always deliver when it counts. Heart of steel!
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De man bound to score..He is ah boss!
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whey berris??
come and say ah word nuh man..
leroy have yuh busy or wha? :devil:
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Stern has a justofoable reputation as a big game scorer.
TIme and again for TnT (score the goals to keep us in the hunt for a WC)
Score the goal to take Birmingham up
Score the goal to keep Southampton up
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Daiz true talk
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whey berris??
come and say ah word nuh man..
leroy have yuh busy or wha? :devil:
u like shit eh :rotfl:
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D man is a legend
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Score the goal to take Birmingham up
One of them.
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Yeh, he is a cult hero now because he save them from going down.
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Disgruntled, doh be shame nah man, come and tell Stern congratulations to nah :devil:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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how many names Berris does have?
atb is ah nex one.............right ;D
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whey berris??
come and say ah word nuh man..
leroy have yuh busy or wha? :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
You like shit oui !! ..anyway as far #14 concern Maturana get ah close up of TnT greatest goal scorer ,so now leh meh see what he go do.For all de imps like 'disgruntledChupidy' and dem, who feel we have any chance to go to SA without #14 ,all yuh waste ah feel.
p.s LEBOY HAUL YUH MUDDAS SC0NT
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Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).[/size]
The unsinkable Stern John talks to Adrenalin reporter Lasana Liburd about Kenwyne Jones, Southampton, the England national team and his burning desire to return to the Premiership.
I would like to score against England because I had a half chance (against them) in the World Cup (and didnt), said Trinidad and Tobago star Stern John. Who knows, I might take off my jersey again.
John chuckled as he recalled the last time he took his shirt off. It was on the closing day of the season for Southampton, last month, and got him halfway to a red card while the Saints tried desperately to hang on to a 3-2 lead over Sheffield United and survival in the England Championship Division.
John scored two of Southampton goals and wanted to share the moment with deceased pal and former national footballer, Mickey Trotman, whose name was emblazoned across a tee shirt under his football gear. But a second booking, which he picked up trying to thwart a counter attack, reduced Southampton to ten men for the last 10 minutes of regulation time.
It was a real dark moment for me, said the 31-year-old John. I was thinking what have I done, you just killed your whole team. I was on my knees in the dressing room watching on television and praying.
I thought Id have to move out of Southampton if we lost. The final whistle was a relief.
If ever anyone needed a happy ending, it was John.
In September 2004, John was preparing for international duty against Mexico when a news flash indicated that Premiership outfit, Birmingham City, had signed compatriot Dwight Yorke and hoped John would make way for him by accepting a move to Championship Division club, Coventry.
John reluctantly left Birmingham but soon felt even worse in a decidedly average Coventry squad.
When I spoke to the manager (Peter Reid), he said they wanted to get back into the Premiership, he said. But, when I went there, there was nothing in place to do that.
The move led to two and a half years at the middle to lower table club before Sunderland manager Roy Keane asked John to help the North-East team into the top flight. The former El Dorado Comprehensive student did his part with four goals in the last three months of their campaign.
But, once Sunderlands Premiership status was confirmed, Keanes interest in John waned. And John feared the worse when rumours linked his employers with another Trinidad and Tobago striker, Kenwyne Jones.
Ironically, the two compatriots spoke regularly and John had urged Jones, a Southampton player at the time, to jump at any chance he got to play in the Premiership.
John was used just once for Sunderland in the 2007/08 Premiership season and had a goal to show for it in a draw at Birmingham of all places. But Southampton refused to release Jones without receiving a striker as part of the deal and they wanted John.
I was disappointed to leave Sunderland, said John, because I felt I didnt get the opportunity I deserved after I played a major part in them getting promoted. I was the number one scorer in the-preseason too.
But I felt I wasnt getting enough playing time. Southampton wanted me and I wasnt going to stay (at Sunderland) and cramp Kenwynes style.
Premature epitaphs were written about the number 14 in Trinidad and Tobago.
Could John recover mentally from the slight? Having failed to stave off a fresh-faced compatriot at Sunderland, would he also lose his national place to the younger strike brigade of Jason Scotland, Darryl Roberts and Scott Sealy?
Nine months later and Johns status as goal king remains undimmed. Present national coach Francisco Maturana has been merciless in his culling of Trinidad and Tobagos 2006 World Cup players and, at 31, Johns position would surely have been considered.
Maturana was at Southampton for their emotional fixture against Sheffield United when John, Trinidad and Tobagos record scorer with 67 goals from 101 appearances, showed that his hunger for goals and ability to rise to the occasion remains virtually unrivalled.
He ranked his two goal salvo against Sheffield among his top ten career games, which includes a memorable double for the Soca Warriors in a 2-1 win over Mexico in 2005 that clinched their 2006 World Cup Play Off berth at the death.
I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.
I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...
At the end of the season, nobody wants to know how many people (a striker) dribbled. They want to know how many goals you scored.
His 67 international goals is the eight highest by any player and places him just one goal shy of German legend Gerd Muller and ten short of Brazilian superstar, Pele.
Yet, there is something about the single mindedness of Johns game that some Trinidad and Tobago fans never warmed to although, since his international debut as a teenager in 1995, he led all scorers in six calendar years for his country.
The best player in Trinidad is always someone in the stands, said John. Most people have their opinion and I accept that it comes with the territory... For me, I am playing for Trinidad and Tobago and I always do my best but, as a human being, it hurts when I hear some of the comments.
I dont think I get the respect I deserve. My stats speak for themselves.
At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
The plaque and the recurring tributes to Trotmanhe also has his late friends name tattooed on his left legbetrays a sentimental side to the striker who is better known for his sulks, indifferent postures and, above all, goals.
John revealed his softer nature again when he discussed his 12-year-old son, Tyrik John, who lives with him in England. The young John, who is left footed and special according to his dad, plays for a local team in Birmingham and trains with the Premiership clubs youth team on the weekend.
It would cap my career off to play (professionally) with or against him, said John. He worships his dad and he wears number 14 too. I have to go see him play every Sunday or he is very disappointed.
He doesnt miss any of my games so I try not to miss any of his.
Before the John and John partnership becomes a reality, the experienced striker hopes to make the most of a union with the 23-year-old Jones.
A tall, mobile target man, Jones debut Premiership season earned him rave reviews and comparisons with top Ivory Coast and Chelsea striker Didier Drogba. He ended with seven items and, from all indications, is Maturanas choice to lead Trinidad and Tobagos forward line for the 2010 World Cup campaign.
John said that he is not annoyed at losing the spotlight and claimed to be a huge fan of the rising star.
(Jones) is big, quick and strong in the air, said John. As long as he can keep his feet on the ground, the sky is the limit I can score a lot of goals playing off Kenwyne.
It might ruffle a few feathers to suggest that Jones needs a babysitter. But some may have forgotten that John managed nine goals in his first Premiership season in 2002/03 including a classy double against West Ham, which had English football experts purring.
The Jo-Jo partnership might well benefit both players.
Jones dismal international tally of three goals from 31 outings is misleading since he was used in defensive positions for 14 matches while, even when an attacker, he was often asked to play deeper or wide of John.
The two started as an orthodox strike pair just once, in a 2-1 triumph over Panama on October 11, 2006, and Jones got the opening goal while John drifted into midfield to create the second for Collin Samuel with a crafty threaded pass.
Those who are uncertain of Johns versatility should know that he played as a midfielder at national under-17 level and even travelled as a defender with the under-20 squad when he could not break into the forward line-up.
John will not concede his place without a fight. He appeared as a witness against the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) during their recent battle in front the Sport Dispute Resolution Panel in London but, despite being blacklisted for over a year, he insisted that he is yet to contemplate international retirement.
I have a job to do and I wont let problems with the TTFF or the coach or whoever stop me, he said. Once I get called (by my country), I am coming.
There was a strong hint that he was less than thrilled with the squad selected by Maturana to face England.
I think we discard players too fast in Trinidad, said John. People dont realise that international football is a different type of football to the Pro League or the Championship or even the Premiership. It is like chess.
This is where you see the real players.
John intends to give another example of his deadly prowess on June 1.
He conceded that the opening World Cup qualifier against Bermuda on June 15 is the more meaningful fixture. But he cannot forget his outing in Nuremberg where he came within inches of his first World Cup goal, only to see England defender John Terry hook the ball off the goal line while another effort was declared offside.
I watched the tape over and over and I was sure I had scored (an equalizer), he said, of his disallowed back-heel that, if given, could have altered the Warriors fate and shook the World Cup. I committed GBH (grevious bodily harm) on (Rio) Ferdinand for my first attempt and I was surprised that the referee did not blow. I thought that one was going in too but for Terry.
John is hoping for another chance. And he usually takes them.
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very nice read.
At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
allyuh call names and ah go whistle.... :whistling:
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Yes Stern...tell dem, yuh have worldwide stats bredrin......Hope yuh doh run out ah gas to play alongside yuh son eight years from now :rotfl:. Big up and keep making TnT proud
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Respect to Mr Stern John. He came up BIG for T&T !!!!!!!! #14 is a big number for Jamal Gay to fill !!!!!
Lasana, that was a wonderful piece of journalism. Keep up the good work.
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Form is temporary class is permanent. :applause:
Keep letting your boots do the tallking on the field number 14...
Boss interview
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Couldn't have said it any better...that's u Stern !
Form is temporary class is permanent.
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Real nice comprehensive article. Big up #14. Legend. Punto Final.
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Excellent article Lisana yuh is a bossssssssssss
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Excellent article Lisana yuh is a bossssssssssss
Yuh ent want tuh give stern no props atall girl........that article was made good by the responses that stern gave too!!
ah love it!!
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I humbly apologize great article Stern u is a realllllllllllllll bosssssssssssssssssss
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very nice read.
At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
allyuh call names and ah go whistle.... :whistling:
Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.
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I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.
I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...
I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.
I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.
I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.
TT's #1 striker.
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I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.
I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...
I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.
I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.
I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.
TT's #1 striker.
:applause: :applause: Well said Touches ...now ah waiting for yuh tuh start de thread ..
''#14 IS AH BOSS IN AH TUGS'' ;D :beermug:
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Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.
Disgruntled livin Trincity??
I go real laugh if his he self
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I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.
I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...
I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.
I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.
I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.
TT's #1 striker.
:applause: :applause: Well said Touches ...now ah waiting for yuh tuh start de thread ..
''#14 IS AH BOSS IN AH TUGS'' ;D :beermug:
i come out with that thread already in de run up to Germany yuh forget or what?
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=16690.0
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I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.
I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...
I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.
I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.
I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.
TT's #1 striker.
:applause: :applause: Well said Touches ...now ah waiting for yuh tuh start de thread ..
''#14 IS AH BOSS IN AH TUGS'' ;D :beermug:
i come out with that thread already in de run up to Germany yuh forget or what?
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=16690.0
Ah know buh ah want tuh hear it from Touches ;D
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Hear nah some days ah does feel rel proud tuh be a TRINI yuh know. Today is one ah dem.
Stern, thank you for not giving up on the too often fickle T&T supporter. . .
Great Job Liburd
Stern: Just keep fit, T&T need yuh still eh. . .
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Stern has always been one of our most loyal warriors..
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Legend 14
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Big up trini all time leading goal scorer!!!!!
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Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.
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Lasana should submit this to World Soccer or Four Four Two...Thoroughly well researched and well written. Things like this are what lesser journalists wouldn't even think about, or take the time to research:
Jones dismal international tally of three goals from 31 outings is misleading since he was used in defensive positions for 14 matches while, even when an attacker, he was often asked to play deeper or wide of John.
Great story about a class act. :beermug:
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Not my most favourite player in world....but I must acknowledge this article....
BIG UP STERN!!.... :beermug:
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Welcome back Lasana, boss article !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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John revealed his softer nature again when he discussed his 12-year-old son, Tyrik John, who lives with him in England. The young John, who is left footed and special according to his dad, plays for a local team in Birmingham and trains with the Premiership clubs youth team on the weekend.
It would cap my career off to play (professionally) with or against him, said John. He worships his dad and he wears number 14 too. I have to go see him play every Sunday or he is very disappointed.
He doesnt miss any of my games so I try not to miss any of his.
I wonder if the yute really good.
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Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.
I second that....
No doubt history will show Stern to be up there with Latas, Yorke, , Steve David, and all of our greatest ever players of the past.
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John revealed his softer nature again when he discussed his 12-year-old son, Tyrik John, who lives with him in England. The young John, who is left footed and special according to his dad, plays for a local team in Birmingham and trains with the Premiership clubs youth team on the weekend.
It would cap my career off to play (professionally) with or against him, said John. He worships his dad and he wears number 14 too. I have to go see him play every Sunday or he is very disappointed.
He doesnt miss any of my games so I try not to miss any of his.
I wonder if the yute really good.
If he is and Stern is smart, he will try to get him in Southampton academy. Dem does produce great youth players.
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Big Up Stern!!
Legend 14
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Nice one Small Mag :applause: :applause:
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Lasana should submit this to World Soccer or Four Four Two...Thoroughly well researched and well written. Things like this are what lesser journalists wouldn't even think about, or take the time to research:
Jones dismal international tally of three goals from 31 outings is misleading since he was used in defensive positions for 14 matches while, even when an attacker, he was often asked to play deeper or wide of John.
Great story about a class act. :beermug:
not too take anything away from an excellent article, but that information you cited there could be sourced simply by gleaning the topics on this website on a daily basis.
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At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
very nice read.
At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
allyuh call names and ah go whistle.... :whistling:
Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.
Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.
I second that....
No doubt history will show Stern to be up there with Latas, Yorke, , Steve David, and all of our greatest ever players of the past.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/epic-fail-2.jpg)
All yuh 4king serious with this sh!t?
I surprise Berris eh chime in yet leading the Stern John fan boy club.
steups..........please
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If these were Sterns' words, he has definitely improved from school days. It was nice reading and as the man said, his stats really do speak for him. It will only be left to seen what the future holds for him regarding TT football but the good thing is that he is one of Corneal's cash cows too ;) :-X
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So yuh cyah give Stern a little bly for just this ONCE? Come on Disgruntled, show some love nah. ;)
Yuh go hate Stern chile too?
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Big Up Stern!!
Legend 14
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Nice one Small Mag :applause: :applause:
Dat is a nice pic :beermug:
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big up tuh de killa Stern John...boss article :beermug:
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At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
very nice read.
At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.
allyuh call names and ah go whistle.... :whistling:
Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.
Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.
I second that....
No doubt history will show Stern to be up there with Latas, Yorke, , Steve David, and all of our greatest ever players of the past.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/epic-fail-2.jpg)
All yuh 4king serious with this sh!t?
I surprise Berris eh chime in yet leading the Stern John fan boy club.
steups..........please
Me eh have tuh 'chime in' .I know yuh worship yuh fadda #14 .He tell meh all yuh make up and yuh tell him yuh so proud tuh have him as yuh fadda.He say tuh tell yuh thanx for de letter yuh write bigging him up,he was really touched.However he was not to please that yuh post dem embarrasising pictures of yuh self breaking yuh ass, as he feel responsible.He say when onezee tell yuh #14 is yuh real fadda yuh start get on and show off for everybody .Next ting yuh know all he hear is DADDY DADDY LOOK MEH and yuh jump expecting yuh fadda tuh ketch yuh .Stern say he was so shame to see ah grown jackass child behaving like dat he jess walk way and leh yuh buss yuh chupid ass on de ground.
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Blackpool leading Southampto 1 -0 at Southampton 55 mins gone and Jamie White one of the strikers just got substituted but not by John,by Dyer instead.
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daz y dey lossin...wat ever happened to that Hull City link?
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Southampton only plays with one forward. Jamie White is an attacking midifielder who was replaced with another.
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Gr8 dat justify y he eh get call up he inactive he not playin
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He came off the bench in the 67th minute
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Gr8 4 he but it eh go have no bearing on we. His services are no longer required
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Southampton lucky to be only 1-0 down. Blackpool had 3 goals disallowed and another chance come off the post. New coach dedicated to using youth but dem small man getting rough up bad.
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wen stern came on u saw a different in class...dem southampton yute n dem way too shitty fuh dah manager tuh be havin stern on de bench...dey go suffer it de manager keep insistin on dis yute policy
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Stern might be going to Norwich soon.
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keep going Stern
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Stern might be going to Norwich soon.
The life of a football journeyman.......it aint easy atall.
Nott Forest, Birmingham City, Coventry, Derby County (loan), Coventry again, Sunderland, Southampton and now possibly Norwich.
What about the Hull City scena?
ah love it!!
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Wherever u dey just hopes u get opportunity 2 bust d net
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Just talk to Stern he sadi to tell Frico and dem...."Hi Haters"
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Stern might be going to Norwich soon.
The life of a football journeyman.......it aint easy atall.
Nott Forest, Birmingham City, Coventry, Derby County (loan), Coventry again, Sunderland, Southampton and now possibly Norwich.
What about the Hull City scena?
ah love it!!
Journeyman with ah asterisk. Columbus Crew ,leading goal scorer... Nott Forrest ,leading goal scorer...Birmingham ,leading goal scorer ( promoted to Prems)...Coventry ,leading goal scorer, Sunderland ,score in the only premiership game he play for them and help promote them to prems....Southampton,leading goal scorer.....TnT,all time leading goal scorer.
Who knows maybe after the 5 Hull get they might renew interest but right now Norwich inquiring and the transfer window closing 2moro.
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Stern might be going to Norwich soon.
The life of a football journeyman.......it aint easy atall.
Nott Forest, Birmingham City, Coventry, Derby County (loan), Coventry again, Sunderland, Southampton and now possibly Norwich.
What about the Hull City scena?
ah love it!!
Journeyman with ah asterisk. Columbus Crew ,leading goal scorer... Nott Forrest ,leading goal scorer...Birmingham ,leading goal scorer ( promoted to Prems)...Coventry ,leading goal scorer, Sunderland ,score in the only premiership game he play for them and help promote them to prems....Southampton,leading goal scorer.....TnT,all time leading goal scorer.
Who knows maybe after the 5 Hull get they might renew interest but right now Norwich inquiring and the transfer window closing 2moro.
Berris not trying to be funny or anything here but on a more serious note,for a player with Stern's reputation why has he not settled with any particular club/team for any period of time,i find a player like this clubs would want to keep,ah mean look at Sunderland why didn't they keep him?a goal scorer is someone that teams cherish,he should never have to struggle for a job he proved himself where ever he went,is there something that you or i don't know?just trying to get to the bottom of why he is being treated the way he does.
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Berris not trying to be funny or anything here but on a more serious note,for a player with Stern's reputation why has he not settled with any particular club/team for any period of time,i find a player like this clubs would want to keep,ah mean look at Sunderland why didn't they keep him?a goal scorer is someone that teams cherish,he should never have to struggle for a job he proved himself where ever he went,is there something that you or i don't know?just trying to get to the bottom of why he is being treated the way he does.
Food for thought, indeed!
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Is just like how Swansea presure Scottie last season and he was the demolition man. They find he not mobile enough. Is the Ebglish and them evrybody must be running every where, that's why they can't beat anyone (well except for we ;D ) , look at Rooney hardest working forward in the world and struggling to score a goal.
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We know that the English like their players to run and run but they had Erickson and now Capello both foreign,very few teams play immobile men as strikers nowadays.Chelsea with one of the best midfields have strikers who always run.
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Stern staying at Southampton as no deal could have been reached between Norwich and last minute interest also from Crystal Palace.The transfer window closed and now they have to pay him the same wages they say they could'nt afford to pay ,but yet still thet they were asking for too much money when Hull Norwich and Crystal Palace was interested.By the logic of some ah all yuh here ,dais also Stern fault.
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Stern staying at Southampton as no deal could have been reached between Norwich and last minute interest also from Crystal Palace.The transfer window closed and now they have to pay him the same wages they say they could'nt afford to pay ,but yet still thet they were asking for too much money when Hull Norwich and Crystal Palace was interested.By the logic of some ah all yuh here ,dais also Stern fault.
well it ent Wim own, so who else you go blame?
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Stern have to be one of the most underappreciated players of all time. Everywhere de man go he prove himself. I thought the objective of football is to score goals and that is exactly what he has done. But, despite his scoring record it seems like he can never rid himself of the haters and doubters.
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Midnight thanks 4 sayin it
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Stern might be going to Norwich soon.
The life of a football journeyman.......it aint easy atall.
Nott Forest, Birmingham City, Coventry, Derby County (loan), Coventry again, Sunderland, Southampton and now possibly Norwich.
What about the Hull City scena?
ah love it!!
Journeyman with ah asterisk. Columbus Crew ,leading goal scorer... Nott Forrest ,leading goal scorer...Birmingham ,leading goal scorer ( promoted to Prems)...Coventry ,leading goal scorer, Sunderland ,score in the only premiership game he play for them and help promote them to prems....Southampton,leading goal scorer.....TnT,all time leading goal scorer.
Who knows maybe after the 5 Hull get they might renew interest but right now Norwich inquiring and the transfer window closing 2moro.
Berris not trying to be funny or anything here but on a more serious note,for a player with Stern's reputation why has he not settled with any particular club/team for any period of time,i find a player like this clubs would want to keep,ah mean look at Sunderland why didn't they keep him?a goal scorer is someone that teams cherish,he should never have to struggle for a job he proved himself where ever he went,is there something that you or i don't know?just trying to get to the bottom of why he is being treated the way he does.
Coops stop playing games nah,yuh is ah big man, say what yuh really want to say. I doh believe you trying to get to the bottom of anything.I would like to here your version on why he is ''being treated the way he does''.
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Moderators...merge it in whatever thread yuh feel like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YuyOCK1K2A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YuyOCK1K2A)
De saddiss reallly bad boy!
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Moderators...merege it in whatever thread yuh feel like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YuyOCK1K2A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YuyOCK1K2A)
De saddiss reallly bad boy!
MIH LAWD!!!!
look at that piping hot bullet! memories of mexico... :notworthy:
thanks kif, long time ah looking for this one..
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Thanks Alot...been searching for this
What a goalaso.... only Legend 14.... Cornell and Toussaint will pelt when they see this
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Chest Trap
Turn Sternturnrinho
Bullet
Copyright dat ;)
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Nice goal
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He actually hit that on the half volley ......... supergoal....he leh go the yayonn on that one
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The Professor at work.. it doesnt' get much better than this :beermug:
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Dat #2 goal wasn't no joke either.
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Pleaseeeeeeee sent d clip 2 d dumbtist like he eh know what d fella could do
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Stern eh playing he is real toots ;)
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Ah rel enjoy watchin dat one..thanx for postin de link breds :beermug:
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Worst ting in ah tugs
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Sterner mission for Saints without John?
Daily Echo
SAINTS striker Stern Johns absence from the Bristol City squad wont cause the Robins a major headache when the two teams clash this weekend.
Thats because the Trinidad and Tobago legend on loan at Ashton Gate from St Marys until the end of the season has recently been unable to get into the City starting XI.
The striker whose 19 goals helped Saints stave off relegation last season has only netted twice in 17 appearances nine starts and eight sub outings for the Bristolians since leaving Saints in mid-October as part of the clubs cost-cutting measures.
John has come on as a second half sub in the Robins last three games, all of which have been won.
In fact, City have won six of their last seven Championship matches, including the last four on the trot.
The only game they failed to win was at home to leaders Wolves when they came from 0-2 down to draw 2-2.
John had been a regular starter up front with Citys record 2.25m signing from Crewe Nicky Maynard following his arrival at Ashton Gate.
But he has recently lost his starting place to the much larger physical presence provided by targetman Dele Adebola.
Maynard, after a slow start, is Citys leading scorer in the league with nine goals including five in his last seven outings while Adebola is second top marksman with seven.
City boss Gary Johnson has several options to replace John with on the bench for Saints visit.
John Akinde, signed from Blue Square Conference club Ebbsfleet last summer, or Slovakian Peter Styvar have made sub appearances recently.
Styvar was brought to England during the transfer window last month from MSK Zilina.
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Well I guess this answers my question regarding Stern's employment status (which was merged into another thread that really was not applicable to my point, btw so of course no one saw it to be able to provide an answer) : Stern still on loan at Bristol City and not starting, so chances are he looking for a club again at the end of the season.
Go Swans go ! Bristol City could stay in the Championship if it comes down to both being in the playoffs.
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Thats because the Trinidad and Tobago legend
That writer just throwing words around loosely!!
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goofy...hard luck
LEGEND
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Disgruntled which player do you talk about the most?
Only legends does have ppl bad-talkin them so much!
Spidey the thread yours got merged with had the latest info on Stern's employment.
The mods help yuh out dey.
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Only legends does have ppl bad-talkin them so much!
Especially Trinbago legends sadly.
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goofy...hard luck
LEGEND
Well if Stern is a Legend by all yuh Standard's, better all yuh start shop by Courts!!
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Johnson urges Bristol City fans to give Stern John a chance
Bristol Evening Post
Gary Johnson has appealed to Bristol City fans to give Stern John a chance.
Signed from Southampton on loan until the end of the season, the 32-year-old striker has still to win over a majority of Bristol City fans.
The Trinidad & Tobago international has scored only twice since arriving at Ashton Gate in October and has come in for criticism from supporters, some of whom question his commitment to the cause.
But manager Johnson believes John's languid demeanour can be misleading and he feels Bristol City fans have been slow to recognise the former Premier League marksman's qualities. He said: "Sometimes fans want to pick out someone to be a scapegoat and that has happened to Stern on occasions.
"I think it's down to the impression he gives off and it's definitely unfair.
"As a manager, it's up to me to pick the best team in the best interests of the football club. I have to be single-minded and not listen to what other people are saying."
Southampton's leading scorer last season, John is determined to earn a City deal.
Although the former Birmingham star has struggled to hold down a regular place in Johnson's Championship starting line-up, he has still played a significant part in Bristol City's rise up the table.
An experienced campaigner, John has consistently created chances for others and helped bring out the best in 22-year-old Nicky Maynard.
Back in the side for last weekend's game at Derby, he also started against Coventry on Tuesday and is expected to feature in Sunday's match with Cardiff at Ashton Gate.
Johnson remains happy with the Trinidadian's contribution. He said: "Stern is one of those players who does a lot of things which go unnoticed.
"He's played in the Premier League and in the World Cup and he gives us that little bit of quality in the final third.
"Stern is good with his back to goal, holds the ball up well and brings others into the game. He's in the team because he deserves to be."
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Good luck wit dat. Leh we know how u do it so we go try it.
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keep him away from penalties.they might hate him even more.
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keep him away from penalties.they might hate him even more.
:devil:
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I backin Stern too. He far from done, he just having a lean spell.
Juss now he will be bussin de net on a regular.
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How everybody have to be begging for stern so?
I sensing ah double on Sunday!!
ah love it!!
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How everybody have to be begging for stern so?
I sensing ah doubles on Sunday!!
ah love it!!
from tunapuna market with heavy pepper.
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stern is mi boy but he done. Is time for stern to move back to di MLS or a local outfit like Jabloteh or Public. Stern days is done as a striker , I dont think he will be plying his trade in england too long again.
war
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warmonga...half of you not making sense
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Bristol City need to be sharper up front, and I'm not sure about Stern John
Bristol Evening Post
The victory against Coventry City on Tuesday night was a deserved one and I actually thought we played some decent football.
Despite a lot of neat interplay though, we were once again wasteful in the final third and it took a tremendous strike from Jamie McAllister to open up the Sky Blues defence. We have to be more clinical in front of goal and the strikers need to start firing.
I'm writing this before the Cardiff City match, which looked almost certain to have Stern John involved somehow. I have to admit that I just don't see it with Stern. I try and give every player who pulls on the City shirt a chance but for me Stern just isn't doing enough to warrant a starting position or even come to that a place on the bench. I can't see what he has done that warrants a place in the side that Peter Styvar, Lee Trundle or John Akinde hasn't.
Gary has appealed to the fans to give John a chance saying the Trinidad & Tobago's languid demeanour can be misleading and that he shouldn't be made a scapegoat.
John has said he is determined to earn a City deal but if I were in charge I would be saying thanks but no thanks. John's slow walk off the pitch on Tuesday night with the score at 0-0 was disappointing to say the least.
Now as often happens there is every chance that I am talking about the taste of humble pie in this column next week and I truly hope I am and that Stern shows me what Gary Johnson and others see.
City have seven games left and some are against other teams in and around the play offs in Preston, Ipswich, Swansea and Burnley and wins in those games are also key.
I would still like to see City bolster the squad with a loan signing up front. Reading have added to their options up front with the signing of Dave Kitson from Stoke City, Ipswich Town have signed Giovani dos Santos from Spurs and a struggling Nottingham Forest side have been able to sign Gary McSheffery on loan.
If City are serious about the play offs they need a consistent goal scorer, as the saying goes you have to speculate to accumulate.
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::)
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Loud Stupes ::)
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pull yuh ass
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(http://www.peoriadefense.com/photo_host/BuildingaBetterCorn.PopcornThatis_C73D/popcorn.jpg)
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:-X
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Sometimes the chemistry just not there.
When Stern went Derby on loan he eh make a note, next season he went Southampton and top score for dem.
A problem Stern has is that he moves around a lot, and each time he has to win the fans over from scratch.
I believe he has moved a few times because of his high wage demands.
Maybe is time he lower his demands a little just so that he could stay with a club for a few seasons.
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Note: This is a fan's opinion and as we well know from this board, most fans doh like Stern or appreciate what he does. But the coaches and his teammates are the ones who back him.
In other words, that article should mean as much to us here as if Berris write about how Stern is the greatest thing ever to pull on a football and we post that on a Bristol City board. Or if Disgruntled wrote the opposite. Neither is the truth and neither affecting Stern's selection for the national team or for his club, is just their opinion.
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Note: This is a fan's opinion and as we well know from this board, most fans doh like Stern or appreciate what he does. But the coaches and his teammates are the ones who back him.
In other words, that article should mean as much to us here as if Berris write about how Stern is the greatest thing ever to pull on a football and we post that on a Bristol City board. Or if Disgruntled wrote the opposite. Neither is the truth and neither affecting Stern's selection for the national team or for his club, is just their opinion.
Wait so Stern is not the best thing to ever pull on ah tugs ??? ???
Damn you Berris.....damn you. :busshead:
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Dat man talking out his arse!!! who in their right mind expects a striker to score every game, who ever have those kinda expectations is ah dunce!
on another note, i see the mexican wonder boy giovani dos santos gone in the championship!! :o what a huge suprise, ah wonder what sven has to say bout that? ah know if it was dominiche he would've been smoking through the ears with rage!
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Stern John is a player that inspires contrasting emotions.
Is eedah yuh love him (like meh breddrin Berris)
Or yuh hate him (like we boy Disgruntled)
What dis fella sayin eh anyting out of de ordinary from fans EVERYWHERE in Stern football career...INCLUDING T&T NATIONAL TEAM FANS.
Just another day in the life and professional football career of Stern Ignatius John. 8)
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Stern John is a player that inspires contrasting emotions.
Is eedah yuh love him (like meh breddrin Berris)
Or yuh hate him (like we boy Disgruntled)
What dis fella sayin eh anyting out of de ordinary from fans EVERYWHERE in Stern football career...INCLUDING T&T NATIONAL TEAM FANS.
Just another day in the life and professional football career of Stern Ignatius John. 8)
Cosign
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I know just like me you all remember all the times Stern John has saved T&T.But for some time allot of people have only bad things to say about the 5th heighest goal scorer on earth!Some say 'hes just lucky'lucky?69 times?(and thire will be more)i wish i was that lucky!He is at this time playing some of the best ball i've seen him play in a long time and i belive that all he needs is to score 1 goal for T&T and he will be back in full form.Once hes fit i want him to start!We should be thankfull we have him and be more respectfull because any other country wound happy to have him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_(soccer)_players_with_30_or_more_international_goals
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TnT all time greatest goal scorer ..legend #14
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Cosign
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Not to rain on the Stern love parade but he has just as much to thank T&T for. If he hadn't been selected so often for the national squads (even when under performing!) he would have never had the oppertunity to score (and throw away) all them goals. He has been a great servant but that doesn't mean we should just give praise regardless of what he does on the pitch. IMHO he hasn't played that well fuh T&T in some time. I don't think he should start games (my opinion). All countries have players that get stick from media and fans. Why T&T should treat Stern any different, he is ah big man....he could take it......usually ::) .
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Not to rain on the Stern love parade but he has just as much to thank T&T for. If he hadn't been selected so often for the national squads (even when under performing!) he would have never had the oppertunity to score (and throw away) all them goals. He has been a great servant but that doesn't mean we should just give praise regardless of what he does on the pitch. IMHO he hasn't played that well fuh T&T in some time. I don't think he should start games (my opinion). All countries have players that get stick from media and fans. Why T&T should treat Stern any different, he is ah big man....he could take it......usually ::) .
He wouldn't have been selected so many times by several different coaches if he wasn't the best.
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Where d Mats appreciation thread after all we unbeaten in d hex.
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for real i want to a man make a thread like that. hmm :devil:
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Where d Mats appreciation thread after all we unbeaten in d hex.
:rotfl:
You just like to chook fire.... :devil:
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Trend?
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Trend?
:devil:
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Trend?
Is a trend 2 big up peeps who nuff peeps feel is hound.
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Stern John
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Not to rain on the Stern love parade but he has just as much to thank T&T for. If he hadn't been selected so often for the national squads (even when under performing!) he would have never had the oppertunity to score (and throw away) all them goals. He has been a great servant but that doesn't mean we should just give praise regardless of what he does on the pitch. IMHO he hasn't played that well fuh T&T in some time. I don't think he should start games (my opinion). All countries have players that get stick from media and fans. Why T&T should treat Stern any different, he is ah big man....he could take it......usually ::) .
Yuh on de wrong thread kakahole ,just search de forum and yuh go find nuff other thread putting down #14 ,choose 1 and yuh cud add de manure yuh just post above .
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He wouldn't have been selected so many times by several different coaches if he wasn't the best.
I beg to differ....more recently it has been a selection based on reputation and past glory rather than form. Just ask Scotland, Roberts, Sealy and Jones who have all missed out at various stages in the past though playing better than John. Don't get me wrong he is still a good player but I just don't think he deserves praise for his current contribution.
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Not to rain on the Stern love parade but he has just as much to thank T&T for. If he hadn't been selected so often for the national squads (even when under performing!) he would have never had the oppertunity to score (and throw away) all them goals. He has been a great servant but that doesn't mean we should just give praise regardless of what he does on the pitch. IMHO he hasn't played that well fuh T&T in some time. I don't think he should start games (my opinion). All countries have players that get stick from media and fans. Why T&T should treat Stern any different, he is ah big man....he could take it......usually ::) .
Yuh on de wrong thread kakahole ,just search de forum and yuh go find nuff other thread putting down #14 ,choose 1 and yuh cud add de manure yuh just post above .
Oh dear!!! I seem to have offended someone. Point taken, ah go leave yuh to yuh love-in
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The only reason I went GErmany was the foot of stern John. Nuff said
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The only reason I went GErmany was the foot of stern John. Nuff said
Well said had 2 tell some fellas dat at d under 2o game who was chattin nonsense bout how he goalis v B'dos like we does play Portugual/Brazil and Spain often.
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Not to rain on the Stern love parade but he has just as much to thank T&T for. If he hadn't been selected so often for the national squads (even when under performing!) he would have never had the oppertunity to score (and throw away) all them goals. He has been a great servant but that doesn't mean we should just give praise regardless of what he does on the pitch. IMHO he hasn't played that well fuh T&T in some time. I don't think he should start games (my opinion). All countries have players that get stick from media and fans. Why T&T should treat Stern any different, he is ah big man....he could take it......usually ::) .
Yuh on de wrong thread kakahole ,just search de forum and yuh go find nuff other thread putting down #14 ,choose 1 and yuh cud add de manure yuh just post above .
Oh dear!!! I seem to have offended someone. Point taken, ah go leave yuh to yuh love-in
Buh bye ...
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I rather start Stern in front of KJ anytime.
The man does find himself in some good scoring position and i think he really hustling these last few matches.
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While here please join the most populated and popular Stern John group on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=41ce0720d648126ac200cdfbd85ceaec&gid=48916803260
:rotfl:
Here are some testimonies by some passionate yet unsatisfied customers.
"stern john is one massive gigantic shit hound...dat man will miss he funeral...." - K. Gittens wrote
"stern "off-side" john. i neva see a man off-side so. d 1 goal we get in world cup, d man was off-side"- N. Pierre
"wait na... dis man does still play football?? steups" - D. Sandy
"ALL YUH SHOULDA BUY A COMPASS FOR DE MAN FOR CHRISTMAS!!!" - D. Kirton
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Where d Mats appreciation thread after all we unbeaten in d hex.
:devil: :devil:
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While here please join the most populated and popular Stern John group on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=41ce0720d648126ac200cdfbd85ceaec&gid=48916803260
:rotfl:
Here are some testimonies by some passionate yet unsatisfied customers.
"stern john is one massive gigantic shit hound...dat man will miss he funeral...." - K. Gittens wrote
"stern "off-side" john. i neva see a man off-side so. d 1 goal we get in world cup, d man was off-side"- N. Pierre
"wait na... dis man does still play football?? steups" - D. Sandy
"ALL YUH SHOULDA BUY A COMPASS FOR DE MAN FOR CHRISTMAS!!!" - D. Kirton
hahahahaha oh geeeeeedddd lol :D
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While here please join the most populated and popular Stern John group on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=41ce0720d648126ac200cdfbd85ceaec&gid=48916803260
:rotfl:
Here are some testimonies by some passionate yet unsatisfied customers.
"stern john is one massive gigantic shit hound...dat man will miss he funeral...." - K. Gittens wrote
"stern "off-side" john. i neva see a man off-side so. d 1 goal we get in world cup, d man was off-side"- N. Pierre
"wait na... dis man does still play football?? steups" - D. Sandy
"ALL YUH SHOULDA BUY A COMPASS FOR DE MAN FOR CHRISTMAS!!!" - D. Kirton
hahahahaha oh geeeeeedddd lol :D
is all kicks ehhh. I wish Stern all the best, cuz its bess for we too
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Big up the Stern Buss them on Wed.
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The only reason I went GErmany was the foot of stern John. Nuff said
Germany? How many years ago that was?
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While here please join the most populated and popular Stern John group on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=41ce0720d648126ac200cdfbd85ceaec&gid=48916803260
:rotfl:
Here are some testimonies by some passionate yet unsatisfied customers.
"stern john is one massive gigantic shit hound...dat man will miss he funeral...." - K. Gittens wrote
"stern "off-side" john. i neva see a man off-side so. d 1 goal we get in world cup, d man was off-side"- N. Pierre
"wait na... dis man does still play football?? steups" - D. Sandy
"ALL YUH SHOULDA BUY A COMPASS FOR DE MAN FOR CHRISTMAS!!!" - D. Kirton
Stern John is my horse!!! haul all ah allyuh hating sc**ts!!!
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The only reason I went GErmany was the foot of stern John. Nuff said
Germany? How many years ago that was?
3 years arrow, and its been the same crap ppl been talking about stern for 5 years including last WCQ rounds if you forget
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I appreciate all you've done for this country Stern! Don't study all the criticism, there are many of us out here who love you as our fellow countryman and national player.
I know the man isn't the perfect player, but on so many important occasions hes showed up and scored goals for this ungrateful nation. You don't have to say hes Maradona, but don't abuse and deride the man. He is one of the few players on our team that anytime we don't do well or he messes up, he looks visibly hurt about it. The man obvious loves his country(in mould of how Beckham loves England), we can at least return the love and not aforementioned abuse and derision, even if he has his periods of less than stellar scoring form.
It have so many Trinidadians who does leave here and don't look back, we should at least show some appreciation for those who show genuine commitment and love for this nation like Stern John does.
Kudos to you Stern John and stay strong!
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its time to bring stern on as a super sub, condense all his attempts in the last 15 20 minutes attack
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He wouldn't have been selected so many times by several different coaches if he wasn't the best.
I beg to differ....more recently it has been a selection based on reputation and past glory rather than form. Just ask Scotland, Roberts, Sealy and Jones who have all missed out at various stages in the past though playing better than John. Don't get me wrong he is still a good player but I just don't think he deserves praise for his current contribution.
Isn't that our entire team selection process right now? If this team was representing JA, you would have heard much different reports on the team.
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Stern has done yoe-man service for TT. His legacy is set. But TT scoring problem is our underperforming mid-field play and our inability too string 4 consecutive passes instead of hitting a long for Stern between two defenders. It happends 80% of the matches. To foot, to foot, to f___ing foot.
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Stern has done yoe-man service for TT. His legacy is set. But TT scoring problem is our underperforming mid-field play and our inability too string 4 consecutive passes instead of hitting a long for Stern between two defenders. It happends 80% of the matches. To foot, to foot, to f___ing foot.
If I tried I couldn't put it better.
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Bristol City boss Gary Johnson has appealed the clubs fans to give Stern John a chance. Signed from Southampton on loan until the end of the season, the 32-year-old striker has still to win over a majority of Bristol City fans. The Trinidad & Tobago international has scored only twice since arriving at Ashton Gate in October and has come in for criticism from supporters, some of whom question his commitment to the cause.
But manager Johnson believes Johns languid demeanour can be misleading and he feels Bristol City fans have been slow to recognise the former Premier League marksmans qualities. He said: Sometimes fans want to pick out someone to be a scapegoat and that has happened to Stern on occasions. I think its down to the impression he gives off and its definitely unfair. As a manager, its up to me to pick the best team in the best interests of the football club. I have to be single-minded and not listen to what other people are saying. Southamptons leading scorer last season, John is determined to earn a City deal.
Although the former Birmingham star has struggled to hold down a regular place in Johnsons Championship starting line-up, he has still played a significant part in Bristol Citys rise up the table. An experienced campaigner, John has consistently created chances for others and helped bring out the best in 22-year-old Nicky Maynard.
Back in the side for last weekends game at Derby , he also started against Coventry on Tuesday and is expected to feature in Sundays match with Cardiff at Ashton Gate. Johnson remains happy with the Trinidadians contribution. He said: Stern is one of those players who does a lot of things which go unnoticed. Hes played in the Premier League and in the World Cup and he gives us that little bit of quality in the final third.
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Give Stern a chance urges Bristol boss
Shaun Fuentes
Bristol City boss Gary Johnson has appealed the clubs fans to give Stern John a chance. Signed from Southampton on loan until the end of the season, the 32-year-old striker has still to win over a majority of Bristol City fans. The Trinidad & Tobago international has scored only twice since arriving at Ashton Gate in October and has come in for criticism from supporters, some of whom question his commitment to the cause.
But manager Johnson believes Johns languid demeanour can be misleading and he feels Bristol City fans have been slow to recognise the former Premier League marksmans qualities. He said: Sometimes fans want to pick out someone to be a scapegoat and that has happened to Stern on occasions. I think its down to the impression he gives off and its definitely unfair. As a manager, its up to me to pick the best team in the best interests of the football club. I have to be single-minded and not listen to what other people are saying. Southamptons leading scorer last season, John is determined to earn a City deal.
Although the former Birmingham star has struggled to hold down a regular place in Johnsons Championship starting line-up, he has still played a significant part in Bristol Citys rise up the table. An experienced campaigner, John has consistently created chances for others and helped bring out the best in 22-year-old Nicky Maynard.
Back in the side for last weekends game at Derby , he also started against Coventry on Tuesday and is expected to feature in Sundays match with Cardiff at Ashton Gate. Johnson remains happy with the Trinidadians contribution. He said: Stern is one of those players who does a lot of things which go unnoticed. Hes played in the Premier League and in the World Cup and he gives us that little bit of quality in the final third.
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And he will be starting tonight ..alongside KJ . ;)
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How everybody have to be begging for stern so?
I sensing ah double on Sunday!!
ah love it!!
Well is he and KJ starting tonite so a double is all in order .
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stern is mi boy but he done. Is time for stern to move back to di MLS or a local outfit like Jabloteh or Public. Stern days is done as a striker , I dont think he will be plying his trade in england too long again.
war
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: apart from a jamaican wanna be pr!ck, yuh cud now add comedian tuh yuh resume .
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miss 3 sitters today. Where Cornell Glen?
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miss 3 sitters today. Where Cornell Glen?
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miss 3 sitters today. Where Cornell Glen?
wow
3 sitters??????
maybe i was watching ads when that happened
but i guess when men calling any chance you get a sitter that's a good sign
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miss 3 sitters today. Where Cornell Glen?
sitters? :rotfl:
Cornell Glen cyah even trap properly..... steups
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....should never don a tnt shirt again. If i see him with his palms up, bitching at his teammates as he walks around the field and miss chance after chance i will break my tv. get that fat f**k out
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
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Games like tonight is the reason why he WILL start every game.. Other forwards don't have a clue how to play with their back to goal.
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
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Allyuh ent tired talk assness?
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Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????
Apparently a lot boss. Listening to CTNT and every man on the street they interview talking bad bout Stern.A man even ask for a baseball bat to beat Stern.Why is Stern hated so?
I don't know what game ppl were looking at. Stern had chances tonight because he worked for them.Running off the ball, and making passes.
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
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Stern was not bad tonight. By the way how all yuh could tell which forward was Stern, all ah dem ah carbon copies of each other. NONE can create or cause havoc with the ball at his feet.
Blessings
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miss 3 sitters today. Where Cornell Glen?
wow
3 sitters??????
maybe i was watching ads when that happened
but i guess when men calling any chance you get a sitter that's a good sign
true that.Maybe is because Stern has done so much for us, we hold to a higher standard.
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It's part of our culture to waste down heroes
I am not surprised... If he was really the downfault of the team i would understand the verbal attacks...
But being singled out when we could easily pick 5 or 6 other players who really made a mess of it tonight it's very clear.
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Fellas good yes,how men could come blast stern and say nnothing about kj
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
It's quite clear that he was our best foward and deserves a starting role in this team.
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
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not really saying much but stern was the best payer tonight in a tt shirt. doesn't mean much cause america dominate tt in every aspect.
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
kj was never one to create his own chances - and in this side he have no service
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
You insulting Yorke now man...
Yorke always had an impeccable touch and technique... ALWAYS
Jones looking like Balrog come out to take ah sweat
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Super_Balrog.jpg/125px-Super_Balrog.jpg)
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
You insulting Yorke now man...
Yorke always had an impeccable touch and technique... ALWAYS
Jones looking like Balrog come out to take ah sweat
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Super_Balrog.jpg)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Oh gawd..... I eh go lie, in light of the madness on the field tonight this is the best i see all night
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Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight.
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He take a man with more heart Cornell Glenn spot. for sake Cornell plays with more heart than fatty Jason Scotland
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Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight.
Stern mighta be the best player on the field tonight... which go to show how low we reach
oh god fellas ah on kicks... ease meh up
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Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight.
Yeah he played very well....held up the ball, showed good composure on the ball and brought players into the attack very well....
Only once his touch let him down when he was in the clear for a scoring chance in the second half... Other than that a very good showing.
KJ on the other hand was piss poor... really really awful.
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Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight.
Ah on facebook watching a setta Trinis bad talk him.
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
You insulting Yorke now man...
Yorke always had an impeccable touch and technique... ALWAYS
Jones looking like Balrog come out to take ah sweat
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Super_Balrog.jpg/125px-Super_Balrog.jpg)
Have Mercy. A man ressurect Balrog. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
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can't say anything bad about stern tonight, he really try, but its hard when a 6ft plus edwin yearwood wannabe rasta swinging from ur nut sack to do alot of good. Stern did good, think its time he move into the Yorke role and drop behind the strikers now.
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
You insulting Yorke now man...
Yorke always had an impeccable touch and technique... ALWAYS
Jones looking like Balrog come out to take ah sweat
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Super_Balrog.jpg/125px-Super_Balrog.jpg)
Have Mercy. A man ressurect Balrog. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
He more look like a project girl for brooklyn with that hairstyle. I bet he spend more time with he hairdresser than practising volleys
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
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Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
Jockstrap you need tuh hush yuh c**t... Stern played harder than everybody in an Trini uniform tonite excepting Birchall and Ince. De man had tuh peel way back into midfield to help out b/c wasn't shit happen from middle go back. Nutten dat man do could ever make some ah allyuh f**kers give him his due.
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STERN JOHN MOUTH WAS RUNNING MORE THAN HE LEGS TONIGHT
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The man would solidify the midfield and allow Glenn to return. He is a good passer and could switch the same way Dwight Yorke switched!
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For me...Carlos Edwards and Stern John were the only international class players on the field for T&T. Hyland when he came on also did well.
Everybody else was below standard. Birchall runs around a lot but he did NOWT. Frequently misplaces passes. But who take de cake for me tonight was Kenwyne Jones. Worst player on the field and that's saying plenty.
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Yeah, agreed 100% and I eh no big Stern supporter, but he gave his all, the chance he had off Carlos' cross he could have done better w/, but on the whole he had a good game IMO
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He take a man with more heart Cornell Glenn spot. for sake Cornell plays with more heart than fatty Jason Scotland
Too bad he heart cyar trap for him .
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Stern play good tonight.
Header on goal that KJ collect in he pan, Shot on goal KJ block, Chest trap and side volley, went to help bring out the ball.
He make one mistake mistrapping a ball that woulda be a chance but ti still wasnt clear cut.
Nah give 14 a rest.
KJ with he salon dreads...now that play a pack of ass whole night.
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For me...Carlos Edwards and Stern John were the only international class players on the field for T&T. Hyland when he came on also did well.
Everybody else was below standard. Birchall runs around a lot but he did NOWT. Frequently misplaces passes. But who take de cake for me tonight was Kenwyne Jones. Worst player on the field and that's saying plenty.
Palos agree... but Birchall does give we dat intensity... is not for Nowt... sometimes it infectious.. not tonight though!
US always get top marks for intensity and speed of play... we in remedial class
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For me...Carlos Edwards and Stern John were the only international class players on the field for T&T. Hyland when he came on also did well.
Everybody else was below standard. Birchall runs around a lot but he did NOWT. Frequently misplaces passes. But who take de cake for me tonight was Kenwyne Jones. Worst player on the field and that's saying plenty.
Is because shotta call him a homo.
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Easier said than done. Is if Stern want to play that position.
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Easier said than done. Is if Stern want to play that position.
He go want 2 play ent Wolfe play in d defence.
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Stern would get tired by the 5 minute running back in defense and only passing the ball back to Dennis Lawrence
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Stern had a decent game tonight but when a forward doesnt score or miss chance(s) and his team lose, he is usually the scapegoat.
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You think Stern has the workrate for that position?
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....should never don a tnt shirt again. If i see him with his palms up, bitching at his teammates as he walks around the field and miss chance after chance i will break my tv. get that fat f**k out
Ah see you is still ah facking dunce ah de game .Not becuz Stern ride yuh gyul from behind mean yuh have tuh be ah facking arse hole everytime the man play.He was de best player on de pitch and if yuh cyar see dat yuh eh have ah facking clue bout this game, and dias not just me saying dat, if yuh know how tuh read just read the rest ah post and yuh wud see yuh is ah standout jackass here ....Now go and break yuh 13' tv ......Yuh enlarge c0nt
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Stern biggest grouse is that he accustomed playing with Latapy and Yorke all his career, unfortunately them men getting older and he just doh have the patience with the younger players when they make mistakes and they frustrate him.
His body language changes when Yorke and Latas on the field. It's a different brand of football where they know how to play with each other.
He is not a natural leader and I don't think he is supposed to be, he is not the type to put his arm around a younger player or pat him on the back. He expects that when you put on the national shirt, you are equipped with the tools to play international ball.
He damn right as far as I am concerned.
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we just need to stop playing men out of position, stop with the experimenting. Stern aint have that engine to play in the mid. But I see your point weary. Trinidad football just at an all time low yes where we put forwards to play right back. Lawd!!
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Stern had a decent game tonight but when a forward doesnt score or miss chance(s) and his team lose, he is usually the scapegoat.
Well we would ah still lose cause he eh even get 3 chances.
Clean sheets qualify you for World Cups... Just ask our opponents tonight.
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we just need to stop playing men out of position, stop with the experimenting. Stern aint have that engine to play in the mid. But I see your point weary. Trinidad football just at an all time low yes where we put forwards to play right back. Lawd!!
All Wolfe have 2 do now is goalkeep and he would have had it totally covered.
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
kj was never one to create his own chances - and in this side he have no service
fackeries ...KJ getting de same service as Stern ....is time all yuh face facts it ...What de fack KJ has ever done for TnT football ? other dan shit dong he self game after game .
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Stern had a decent game tonight but when a forward doesnt score or miss chance(s) and his team lose, he is usually the scapegoat.
so why was kenwyne...who missed the easier chance and played the worst game of our offensive players..not the scapegoat?
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imagine men berating Stern in front KJ.
KJ to me now is just like pre-2005 Dwight Yorke in a national shirt.
We need to move on from thinking premiership ballers are the best thing in a national shirt at CONCACAF level.
Imagine Carlos sweating more for the reserves and playing a class above KJ in national colours.
Dwight Yorke scored a hattrick vs Arsenal on sunday and didnt make a note on Wed WCQ vs Jamaica.
Go figure.
Stern fought hard tonight, mistrapped, but played good link up, and created a decent half chance in the first half.
You insulting Yorke now man...
Yorke always had an impeccable touch and technique... ALWAYS
Jones looking like Balrog come out to take ah sweat
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Super_Balrog.jpg/125px-Super_Balrog.jpg)
LOL!!!...Yuh know, ah wondering if dat is the problem with dat man. He need to lose that bulk because like he not handling the extra size well. Remember how he use to jump all kinda 15ft up and all? All kinda men outjumping him now and he looking extra clumsy. Maybe he need to lose some weight because he eh cutting it at atall atall
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You think Stern has the workrate for that position?
If only we had the opportunity to experiment in truly competitive friendlies to get the answer to this question. A qualifier is not the time to try these ideas, like converting midfielders to wing backs and forwards to midfielders. Although I believe he has the ability to control and hold up the ball well in the midfield, make good passes and utilize his experience on the pitch, I cannot vouch for his work rate for the better half of 90 minutes and his ability to put pressure on the opposition when we are not in possession.
Blessings
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He take a man with more heart Cornell Glenn spot. for sake Cornell plays with more heart than fatty Jason Scotland
Babalawo ,yuh is ah f**king arsehole ...
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
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We need hungrier MEN up top in the midfield we need creativity to take on opponents and in the back we need brian Williams, bertram noel and clayton morris. Specai lrequest for a coach..any blind one eye donkey go work better than the current jackass enough is enough. Oh and man on the bench with a bull pistle when man forget about work rate....waaaatap
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I really appreciate all Stern has and is doing for us....however i would appreciate him coming off the bench. IMO
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I really appreciate all Stern has and is doing for us....however i would appreciate him coming off the bench. IMO
Based on what?
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I really appreciate all Stern has and is doing for us....however i would appreciate him coming off the bench. IMO
Based on what?
Adversity.
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I really appreciate all Stern has and is doing for us....however i would appreciate him coming off the bench. IMO
Based on what?
Ignorance ..
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
Get Vex all yuh want! I'm still right! Stern is a legend and deserves nuff respect, but not tonight. Just my opinion.
See you on FaceBook...
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Yorke returning for the next game. We need Glen and some men with speed at this level.
We too slow in the counter. Our best move was Carlos speeding up the wing and crossing .
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this thread is the perfect opportunity to see who actually knows football and who is just a f**king c**t
Stern John was tops tonight...deserving of a goal and a better result...
Legend 14
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
Get Vex all yuh want! I'm still right! Stern is a legend and deserves nuff respect, but not tonight. Just my opinion.
See you on FaceBook...
Try to learn more about football.
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
Get Vex all yuh want! I'm still right! Stern is a legend and deserves nuff respect, but not tonight. Just my opinion.
See you on FaceBook...
Try to learn more about football.
I've already forgotten more about football than you'll ever know..
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Allyuh watch this space,
I remember 4 years ago around this time we get a proper cutarse in Guatemala City.... men was wasting down the 14
History has a way of repeating itself....
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Remedy hook we up with a cartoon of mats with corbeauxs circling nah man lol
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Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
Jockstrap you need tuh hush yuh c**t... Stern played harder than everybody in an Trini uniform tonite excepting Birchall and Ince. De man had tuh peel way back into midfield to help out b/c wasn't shit happen from middle go back. Nutten dat man do could ever make some ah allyuh f**kers give him his due.
aww, he had to peel back to midfield? aww, im so sorry youre right. That right there has to mean he had an automatic good game. kiss my ass you f**kin homo. STERN WAS SHIT, and his attitude to boot was disgusting and comparable to his play.
shut your damn mouth. We already know you on these boards trying to learn to read, and not discuss football. Its already proven you know jack shit about the game. go look to suck cock elsewhere.
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
Get Vex all yuh want! I'm still right! Stern is a legend and deserves nuff respect, but not tonight. Just my opinion.
See you on FaceBook...
Haul yuh mudda c0nt ah say ... go and crawl back into de facebook hole yuh now crawl out of ...yuh facking dunce.
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
Cosigned! :(
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Yeah he played very well....held up the ball, showed good composure on the ball and brought players into the attack very well....
Only once his touch let him down when he was in the clear for a scoring chance in the second half... Other than that a very good showing.
KJ on the other hand was piss poor... really really awful.
Yeah, sweet work by Carlos, all for nought because Stern fack it up... but he more dan make up fuh it.
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
You talking ah pack ah shit yuh newbie jackass... yuh ent see how deep in midfield Stern had tuh drop just to get ah touch? What de facking midfield was doing whole night... save fuh Birchall dat is? Stern was hustling back and trying tuh win ball when midfield and defense was breaking into moonwalk whenever the US pushed forward. Outside ah Ince and Birchall no other man out there tonite run harder.
I does seriously wonder whey de fukk dey does find allyuh yes.
STERN JOHN MOUTH WAS RUNNING MORE THAN HE LEGS TONIGHT
Right now your ass running faster than yuh fingers could ketch up. Why yuh doh siddung and hush yuh c**t..
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Stern biggest grouse is that he accustomed playing with Latapy and Yorke all his career, unfortunately them men getting older and he just doh have the patience with the younger players when they make mistakes and they frustrate him.
His body language changes when Yorke and Latas on the field. It's a different brand of football where they know how to play with each other.
He is not a natural leader and I don't think he is supposed to be, he is not the type to put his arm around a younger player or pat him on the back. Back in the 90s he had to fight and win his place to be on this national team. It still doh have anybody to displace him.
He expects that when you put on the national shirt, you are equipped with the tools to play international ball.
He damn right as far as I am concerned.
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aww, he had to peel back to midfield? aww, im so sorry youre right. That right there has to mean he had an automatic good game. kiss my ass you f**kin homo. STERN WAS SHIT, and his attitude to boot was disgusting and comparable to his play.
shut your damn mouth. We already know you on these boards trying to learn to read, and not discuss football. Its already proven you know jack shit about the game. go look to suck cock elsewhere.
Funny how de first thing out yuh mouth is about man sucking cock and kissing yuh ass yuh f**king ass pirate. Yuh name is not Supporter, it should be Athletic Supporter yuh f**king jockstrap. I doh even have to bother going back and forth with you because it clear yuh doh know what de f**k yuh talking about brainless c**t.
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Stern John needs to gnikcuf go he way..find someone else.
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Stern John needs to gnikcuf go he way..find someone else.
:rotfl: :rotfl: ..............ah small bunch ah f ocking blind bias arseholes on dis forum .
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
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Hey Sting, I just came on the forums and saw this topic, and it was like you read my mind, while watching the dire USA game, I said the same thing to myself.
The problem is that we aren't getting enough balls to the strikers and wingers further up the pitch, therein not creating nearly enough goalscoring chances, the reason for this is that the midfielders can't keep possesion and make an accurate penetrating forward passes under pressure, and Stern John is one of the few of our players who seem able to control(he IS one of the best at chest control that I've seen, anywhere) and keep the ball under pressure, and to pass the ball forward well.(despite all the derisory things the ungrateful unpatriotic people in this country say about him)
I think he will be of better use to the team right now in this role, as thats where we are lacking, and we have an over abundance of strikers, so even though he has proven he can score goals, we have other goalscorers.
Ideally Stern should be on the edge of the box with his back to goal, receiving balls from midfield to turn and shoot, or hold up play and bring other players in(players like Cornel Glenn, Scotland, Kenwyne). (Like USA's Brian Ching, or Emile Heskey, though he IS a much better goalscorer than both.) He is NOT the Adebayour type consistenly composed finisher(ie. composed far post type goals etc) We expect that from him and get vexed when he doesn't deliver, but thats not his game, and he IS excellent at the type of game I've mentioned before.
Problem is that there we don't have midfielders to pump the ball to him like Emile Heskey has for England, or even the service Brian Ching has for USA. Thats why I think adding him to advanced midfield might be better for the team, until we get some other player to play this role effectively(ie. keep the ball underpressure and pass it forward accurately(good example of this is a pass Stern made in USA game to Carlos when Stern was around midsection. Latapy plays this role brilliantly, but sadly for us hes 40 now and can't play in games very long. Stern is more of a powerful shot type striker anyways, which makes the case for him in advanced midfield even stronger, because he can employ his powerful shots right outside the area if space opens up.
Just as how Dwight Yorke's age has caused the goals to dry up, the same is happening with Stern John to an extent, but just as Dwight had particular top class traits left(or that developed with age and experience) that allowed him to switch to center midfield, likewise I'm seeing some particular top notch traits from Stern John that not many others in our team posses, and that will be of great advantage if he were in in an advance midfield position.
I think he can still score goals, but if we don't have midfielders who can get the ball forward and create chances, for now I think he may be of best use and a great help to the team's performances in adv mid role-receiving ball underpressure and getting a pass forward or to flanks.
That idea for Stern in Midfield isn't as thought out from me as how a coach would have to before making a big move like that(hence the reason I'm not a football manager, lol)
One thing I'm relatively sure about though, is that Keon Daniel SHOULD be in midfield, I've consistenly seen from him the ability to create space with a good few defenders around him. The problem he has is running with the ball right down on the wing after hes created the space, which I don't think is his strong point. I think if he'll be excellent at creating space to pass the ball in a midfield role though.(and his freekicks attest to his ability to make the ball do what he wants in the air, which he can make use of the hit crosses to the wingers)
Keon Daniel for midfield and bring back Colin Samuel for the left wing.
Also after watching the USA game, why oh why did Maturana bring on Makan Hislop for Aklie Edwards(like for like change) I'm starting to think they are his love children. I love our youngsters, but exposing them to early before they're ready could also make them regress in their development if their confidence gets shattered.
Guys we have talented players at our disposal, but many aren't being picked, some are not being used where they will perform at their best, and overall they're not organised well at all.
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
Name two passes Stern make, or which defender he take on. You want to compare coaching qualifications or what? I fed up with macco mere aman like alyuh who back men and don't care what happen with the team as long as alyuh pardner play.
Stern was useless.
KJ check to recieve a ball, the defense drop off and Stern standing up to see what happen, instead of dropping with the defenders. Talk about dunce, is you. You really want to get into tactics here or what. Bring it yuh know cause is ah pack ah ass you on wit Stern and he shyte.
He only stand up and would not jump or challenge for a ball and coming down on everybody else.
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This have to be damn fools day. Men have to be joking.
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
Name two passes Stern make, or which defender he take on. You want to compare coaching qualifications or what? I fed up with macco mere aman like alyuh who back men and don't care what happen with the team as long as alyuh pardner play.
Stern was useless.
KJ check to recieve a ball, the defense drop off and Stern standing up to see what happen, instead of dropping with the defenders. Talk about dunce, is you. You really want to get into tactics here or what. Bring it yuh know cause is ah pack ah ass you on wit Stern and he shyte.
He only stand up and would not jump or challenge for a ball and coming down on everybody else.
Like ah say this have tuh be ah chain up ,I refuse tuh believe you is such ah f ocking idiot,but den again I've been wrong before .The first ball Stern got, he chest traped in de middle of the pitch and hit Carlos on the run down the right side ,excellent touch .Go and watch de game and you would see many more passes to players who din have ah clue what to do .Now dais why ah cyar believe you serious and dis have tuh be a chain up .
As for coaching credentials, yuh now showing meh yuh even ah bigger asswipe dan ah tort .Is not you say in ah earlier thread yuh have tuh go and coach yuh daughter s game. :rotfl: Wham yuh looking for coaching practice or dais the limit of yuh knowledge de game.
Now when yuh say 'name two passes' dat kinda ah convince meh this might not be ah chain after all ,and yuh is really ah f ocking wanna be coach dat eh have a clue .'Name two passes' ??? me eh know passes have name but here goes .. ,Wendy and Elana . Yuh eh see yuh is ah f ocking kakahole ,name 2 passes ..go and watch de game ah yuh wud see bout 20 but as far as I know they eh have no name .Now if you cud say that #14 was not one of our best players tonight ,if not the best, yuh eh know one f ocking ting bout coaching farless football and ah feel sorry for de short change yuh giving yuh daughter and de team yuh fooling by calling yuhself ah coach .Doh take my word for it go and read the rest ah post and yuh wud see that is only ah few c onts like yuhself found #14 did not play well .
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All man arguing about who is d better striker etc....
As of now...d 2 ah dem in d same boat...cuz none ah dem aint score...so all dis tlk about Jones is shit and cyar trap etc...is pure fackries....
Men bringin down our players rite tru wen we lose, but as i think Weary sey....who pickking dem? And if any one of yall was natnl coach yall pickin Jones in yuh 18 .....so wtah are we arguing about?
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
Name two passes Stern make, or which defender he take on. You want to compare coaching qualifications or what? I fed up with macco mere aman like alyuh who back men and don't care what happen with the team as long as alyuh pardner play.
Stern was useless.
KJ check to recieve a ball, the defense drop off and Stern standing up to see what happen, instead of dropping with the defenders. Talk about dunce, is you. You really want to get into tactics here or what. Bring it yuh know cause is ah pack ah ass you on wit Stern and he shyte.
He only stand up and would not jump or challenge for a ball and coming down on everybody else.
Like ah say this have tuh be ah chain up ,I refuse tuh believe you is such ah f ocking idiot,but den again I've been wrong before .The first ball Stern got, he chest traped in de middle of the pitch and hit Carlos on the run down the right side ,excellent touch .Go and watch de game and you would see many more passes to players who din have ah clue what to do .Now dais why ah cyar believe you serious and dis have tuh be a chain up .
As for coaching credentials, yuh now showing meh yuh even ah bigger asswipe dan ah tort .Is not you say in ah earlier thread yuh have tuh go and coach yuh daughter s game. :rotfl: Wham yuh looking for coaching practice or dais the limit of yuh knowledge de game.
Now when yuh say 'name two passes' dat kinda ah convince meh this might not be ah chain after all ,and yuh is really ah f ocking wanna be coach dat eh have a clue .'Name two passes' ??? me eh know passes have name but here goes .. ,Wendy and Elana . Yuh eh see yuh is ah f ocking kakahole ,name 2 passes ..go and watch de game ah yuh wud see bout 20 but as far as I know they eh have no name .Now if you cud say that #14 was not one of our best players tonight ,if not the best, yuh eh know one f ocking ting bout coaching farless football and ah feel sorry for de short change yuh giving yuh daughter and de team yuh fooling by calling yuhself ah coach .Doh take my word for it go and read the rest ah post and yuh wud see that is only ah few c onts like yuhself found #14 did not play well .
You name one pass in 90 freaking minutes. Boy look leh me leave you and yuh fantasies yes.
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What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
Dem Americans musse throw beer in your eye because you talking level shit.
Second to Birchall Stern was easily the most industrious player we had out there tonight. Carlos was more productive and Ince save we from further embarrassment... but Stern was tracking back and defending when necessary and constantly playing deep in midfield realizing he had tuh come back to pick the ball up. Nuff times he hold ball up while KJ was lost in the wings. He work ah nice 1-2 with Carlos in the first half and Carlos cross de ball tuh de corner flag with Kenwyne in the middle waiting.
Allyuh man does let allyuh emotion get de better ah allyuh.
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What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
Dem Americans musse throw beer in your eye because you talking level shit.
Second to Birchall Stern was easily the most industrious player we had out there tonight. Carlos was more productive and Ince save we from further embarrassment... but Stern was tracking back and defending when necessary and constantly playing deep in midfield realizing he had tuh come back to pick the ball up. Nuff times he hold ball up while KJ was lost in the wings. He work ah nice 1-2 with Carlos in the first half and Carlos cross de ball tuh de corner flag with Kenwyne in the middle waiting.
Allyuh man does let allyuh emotion get de better ah allyuh.
Bakes you and all in that shyte. Is the game going pass Stern and coming back and meet he in the same positon. Tracking back. He make 1 tackle and the play was coming from a set piece defending. How many times did Carlos run pass Stern going and coming. You talking real shyte yuhself. Stick to yuh books.
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What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
Dem Americans musse throw beer in your eye because you talking level shit.
Second to Birchall Stern was easily the most industrious player we had out there tonight. Carlos was more productive and Ince save we from further embarrassment... but Stern was tracking back and defending when necessary and constantly playing deep in midfield realizing he had tuh come back to pick the ball up. Nuff times he hold ball up while KJ was lost in the wings. He work ah nice 1-2 with Carlos in the first half and Carlos cross de ball tuh de corner flag with Kenwyne in the middle waiting.
Allyuh man does let allyuh emotion get de better ah allyuh.
I guess in the grand scheme of things, 3 plays in 90 minutes eh bad.
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
Name two passes Stern make, or which defender he take on. You want to compare coaching qualifications or what? I fed up with macco mere aman like alyuh who back men and don't care what happen with the team as long as alyuh pardner play.
Stern was useless.
KJ check to recieve a ball, the defense drop off and Stern standing up to see what happen, instead of dropping with the defenders. Talk about dunce, is you. You really want to get into tactics here or what. Bring it yuh know cause is ah pack ah ass you on wit Stern and he shyte.
He only stand up and would not jump or challenge for a ball and coming down on everybody else.
Like ah say this have tuh be ah chain up ,I refuse tuh believe you is such ah f ocking idiot,but den again I've been wrong before .The first ball Stern got, he chest traped in de middle of the pitch and hit Carlos on the run down the right side ,excellent touch .Go and watch de game and you would see many more passes to players who din have ah clue what to do .Now dais why ah cyar believe you serious and dis have tuh be a chain up .
As for coaching credentials, yuh now showing meh yuh even ah bigger asswipe dan ah tort .Is not you say in ah earlier thread yuh have tuh go and coach yuh daughter s game. :rotfl: Wham yuh looking for coaching practice or dais the limit of yuh knowledge de game.
Now when yuh say 'name two passes' dat kinda ah convince meh this might not be ah chain after all ,and yuh is really ah f ocking wanna be coach dat eh have a clue .'Name two passes' ??? me eh know passes have name but here goes .. ,Wendy and Elana . Yuh eh see yuh is ah f ocking kakahole ,name 2 passes ..go and watch de game ah yuh wud see bout 20 but as far as I know they eh have no name .Now if you cud say that #14 was not one of our best players tonight ,if not the best, yuh eh know one f ocking ting bout coaching farless football and ah feel sorry for de short change yuh giving yuh daughter and de team yuh fooling by calling yuhself ah coach .Doh take my word for it go and read the rest ah post and yuh wud see that is only ah few c onts like yuhself found #14 did not play well .
You name one pass in 90 freaking minutes. Boy look leh me leave you and yuh fantasies yes.
If you only see 'one pass in 90 freaking minutes' dais not my fault,leh meh give yuh some advice ,doh be su cking man dick when yuh shud be watching wha going on pitch ,becuz yuh will only come here and make yuh self ah biger arsehole than we tort .
ah still say dis hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so gullible, den again ....
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I feel alyuh right...I eh know the game.
The college coaches and State/Region coaches who texting me now laughing eh know nothing either.
I have to watch this game again cause I guess I was in the wrong venue.
Jokers
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
Name two passes Stern make, or which defender he take on. You want to compare coaching qualifications or what? I fed up with macco mere aman like alyuh who back men and don't care what happen with the team as long as alyuh pardner play.
Stern was useless.
KJ check to recieve a ball, the defense drop off and Stern standing up to see what happen, instead of dropping with the defenders. Talk about dunce, is you. You really want to get into tactics here or what. Bring it yuh know cause is ah pack ah ass you on wit Stern and he shyte.
He only stand up and would not jump or challenge for a ball and coming down on everybody else.
Like ah say this have tuh be ah chain up ,I refuse tuh believe you is such ah f ocking idiot,but den again I've been wrong before .The first ball Stern got, he chest traped in de middle of the pitch and hit Carlos on the run down the right side ,excellent touch .Go and watch de game and you would see many more passes to players who din have ah clue what to do .Now dais why ah cyar believe you serious and dis have tuh be a chain up .
As for coaching credentials, yuh now showing meh yuh even ah bigger asswipe dan ah tort .Is not you say in ah earlier thread yuh have tuh go and coach yuh daughter s game. :rotfl: Wham yuh looking for coaching practice or dais the limit of yuh knowledge de game.
Now when yuh say 'name two passes' dat kinda ah convince meh this might not be ah chain after all ,and yuh is really ah f ocking wanna be coach dat eh have a clue .'Name two passes' ??? me eh know passes have name but here goes .. ,Wendy and Elana . Yuh eh see yuh is ah f ocking kakahole ,name 2 passes ..go and watch de game ah yuh wud see bout 20 but as far as I know they eh have no name .Now if you cud say that #14 was not one of our best players tonight ,if not the best, yuh eh know one f ocking ting bout coaching farless football and ah feel sorry for de short change yuh giving yuh daughter and de team yuh fooling by calling yuhself ah coach .Doh take my word for it go and read the rest ah post and yuh wud see that is only ah few c onts like yuhself found #14 did not play well .
I totally agree with you Berris! Great to see someone else on these forums sticking up for Stern John, and who actually knows about football and can look beyond the few misses the man made.(which even Trezuguet might have missed, everyone knows most strikers need a good few opportunities to actually score,how many did Stern John get, 2 half chances? Even though Jozy Altidore missed a completely open goal, he still scored a hattrick, and thats because he got numerous chances and balls, damn ungrateful unpatriotic Trinbagonians, I fed up of allyuh)
Anyone who knows about football and who aren't blatantly biased and seeking a scapegoat(idiotically so, cause the man is one of us and loves his country), could see that Stern for the past few game has played well, and had certain crucial qualities to his game many of our players are lacking right now.
The fact is that the few times Stern got the ball, he used it better than most on the team.(in fact, he actually could control it and keep it under pressure, which most of our players couldn't do, save Carlos) Stern is a patriot, the man looks visibly hurt when the team doesn't do well, we damn blasted Trinbagonians should at least return a little love and support and appreciation to the man, instead of derision from our unpatriotic and unappreciating selves. (which is a cause of plenty of this country's problems, but I'm not even going to go there!)
Don't talk about Stern John, talk about all them other guys on the team who were just losing the ball like it had butter on it, and couldn't make a simple pass without giving the ball to the blasted Americans.
I heard some greasy idiot on CNMG at Crobar talk about he should have gotten a baseball bat in the b-mobile prize bag to use it on Stern John, I wanted a baseball bat too, to buss he damn head.(idiotic, unpatriotic, ungrateful ignorant). After everyone go to de HCS stadium and sit down damn quiet and subdued like dey constipated, they have de damn nerve to deride and demotivate the team further! The damn nerve of us Trinidadians!!!!!!!!!
I know plenty of you would disagree with me about this, but I don't care. BIG UP TO STERN JOHN, STAY STRONG MAN, DON'T TAKE ON THESE UNGRATEFUL TRINIDADIANS, NOT ALL OF US LIKE THAT!
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I feel alyuh right...I eh know the game.
The college coaches and State/Region coaches who texting me now laughing eh know nothing either.
I have to watch this game again cause I guess I was in the wrong venue.
Jokers
Doh worry it take ah big man tuh admit he' ah c0nt was wrong .
What dey know ??? you gehing like dem is de expert on football ,de mere fact that dey know you show their standard and level of coaching is college students .I'm sure not one ah dem ever coach beyond college but they impress you ? Gyul gone lick de college coaches arseholes and geh we ah facking chance nah and while yuh licking ask dem who was de best player on de pitch fro TnT and hear wha dey say .
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I feel alyuh right...I eh know the game.
The college coaches and State/Region coaches who texting me now laughing eh know nothing either.
I have to watch this game again cause I guess I was in the wrong venue.
Jokers
Doh worry it take ah big man tuh admit he' ah c0nt was wrong .
What dey know ??? you gehing like dem is de expert on football ,de mere fact that dey know you show their standard and level of coaching is college students .I'm sure not one ah dem ever coach beyond college but they impress you ? Gyul gone lick de college coaches arseholes and geh we ah facking chance nah and while yuh licking ask dem who was de best player on de pitch fro TnT and hear wha dey say .
LOL! Berris, you is rel kicks man. In my little time on this forum I realize that lol.
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Maturana is C#$%!!!
Why substitute a defender at half time when you are down one goal? Did we make a mistake on the initial selection?
Why take off Chris Birchall when he was the hardest working man on the field?
Why play Birchall defensive midfield when he has a 40 yard rocket?
Why not substitue Kenwyn Jones when he added nothing for 90 minutes?
Why not bring on Latapy at halftime?
Why not play Stern John in midfield? Stern John's position is no longer an offensive player (he played well tonight) but he needs to do like Dwight Yorke and switch to midfield. He is a good passer of the ball.
Why not put Stern John in the midfield (it should not be hard to find a midfield player to leave home), and add Cornell Glen to the team.
Why is Brent Sancho not on the team?
Why is Colin Samuel not on the team?
Why is that C%#$ still the head coach?
This coach does not have a clue as to what he is doing!
What game were you watching?
In the 12 minutes Scottie play he was more productive than Stern.
This hah tuh be ah chain up ,nobody cyar be so facking chupid and claim dey know de game,
but den again ,like ah say b4 ,it have nuff dunce on dis forum dat eh have ah facking idea of de game but does talk like dey know bout football ...pure facking arseholes
Name two passes Stern make, or which defender he take on. You want to compare coaching qualifications or what? I fed up with macco mere aman like alyuh who back men and don't care what happen with the team as long as alyuh pardner play.
Stern was useless.
KJ check to recieve a ball, the defense drop off and Stern standing up to see what happen, instead of dropping with the defenders. Talk about dunce, is you. You really want to get into tactics here or what. Bring it yuh know cause is ah pack ah ass you on wit Stern and he shyte.
He only stand up and would not jump or challenge for a ball and coming down on everybody else.
Like ah say this have tuh be ah chain up ,I refuse tuh believe you is such ah f ocking idiot,but den again I've been wrong before .The first ball Stern got, he chest traped in de middle of the pitch and hit Carlos on the run down the right side ,excellent touch .Go and watch de game and you would see many more passes to players who din have ah clue what to do .Now dais why ah cyar believe you serious and dis have tuh be a chain up .
As for coaching credentials, yuh now showing meh yuh even ah bigger asswipe dan ah tort .Is not you say in ah earlier thread yuh have tuh go and coach yuh daughter s game. :rotfl: Wham yuh looking for coaching practice or dais the limit of yuh knowledge de game.
Now when yuh say 'name two passes' dat kinda ah convince meh this might not be ah chain after all ,and yuh is really ah f ocking wanna be coach dat eh have a clue .'Name two passes' ??? me eh know passes have name but here goes .. ,Wendy and Elana . Yuh eh see yuh is ah f ocking kakahole ,name 2 passes ..go and watch de game ah yuh wud see bout 20 but as far as I know they eh have no name .Now if you cud say that #14 was not one of our best players tonight ,if not the best, yuh eh know one f ocking ting bout coaching farless football and ah feel sorry for de short change yuh giving yuh daughter and de team yuh fooling by calling yuhself ah coach .Doh take my word for it go and read the rest ah post and yuh wud see that is only ah few c onts like yuhself found #14 did not play well .
I totally agree with you Berris! Great to see someone else on these forums sticking up for Stern John, and who actually knows about football and can look beyond the few misses the man made.(which even Trezuguet might have missed, everyone knows most strikers need a good few opportunities to actually score,how many did Stern John get, 2 half chances? Even though Jozy Altidore missed a completely open goal, he still scored a hattrick, and thats because he got numerous chances and balls, damn ungrateful unpatriotic Trinbagonians, I fed up of allyuh)
Anyone who knows about football and who aren't blatantly biased and seeking a scapegoat(idiotically so, cause the man is one of us and loves his country), could see that Stern for the past few game has played well, and had certain crucial qualities to his game many of our players are lacking right now.
The fact is that the few times Stern got the ball, he used it better than most on the team.(in fact, he actually could control it and keep it under pressure, which most of our players couldn't do, save Carlos) Stern is a patriot, the man looks visibly hurt when the team doesn't do well, we damn blasted Trinbagonians should at least return a little love and support and appreciation to the man, instead of derision from our unpatriotic and unappreciating selves. (which is a cause of plenty of this country's problems, but I'm not even going to go there!)
Don't talk about Stern John, talk about all them other guys on the team who were just losing the ball like it had butter on it, and couldn't make a simple pass without giving the ball to the blasted Americans.
I heard some greasy idiot on CNMG at Crobar talk about he should have gotten a baseball bat in the b-mobile prize bag to use it on Stern John, I wanted a baseball bat too, to buss he damn head.(idiotic, unpatriotic, ungrateful ignorant). After everyone go to de HCS stadium and sit down damn quiet and subdued like dey constipated, they have de damn nerve to deride and demotivate the team further! The damn nerve of us Trinidadians!!!!!!!!!
I know plenty of you would disagree with me about this, but I don't care. BIG UP TO STERN JOHN, STAY STRONG MAN, DON'T TAKE ON THESE UNGRATEFUL TRINIDADIANS, NOT ALL OF US LIKE THAT!
:applause: :applause: Well said Peter very well said .
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Thanks man Berris :) :beermug:
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Remedy hook we up with a cartoon of mats with corbeauxs circling nah man lol
lol.
Ah feel it should look more like dis:
(http://132.178.236.111/images/Off%20the%20Trail/falconer.jpg)
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
Get Vex all yuh want! I'm still right! Stern is a legend and deserves nuff respect, but not tonight. Just my opinion.
See you on FaceBook...
Haul yuh mudda c0nt ah say ... go and crawl back into de facebook hole yuh now crawl out of ...yuh facking dunce.
Berris + Bake N Shark... I stand corrected! After watching the game again and focussing more on Stern than the play of the entire team, I did not give Stern the credit he deserved. He definately worked much harder than I first assessed and was definately one of the top 3 TNT players on the field.(I thought Carlos and Birchall were the other 2).
I stand by my comment that he gave up on a couple of plays, hoping he was going to get a foul call, if he had played to the whistle he may have gotten a well deserved goal in the 1st half. He definately deserved much more credit than I or some others gave him. I apologize for letting my frustration/dissappointment of the entire teams performance cloud my judgement of Stern's individual effort.
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"Stern gave it his all in dis game... nobody better not come talk no shit about de man tonight."
If you call giving up on the ball everytime he lost it, and whining for a foul instead of playing to the whistle, then yes he definately gave it his all!
Haul yuh mudda c0nt from here .Go on back on facebook and kiss de rest ah dunces arseholes ...yuh facking dunce
Get Vex all yuh want! I'm still right! Stern is a legend and deserves nuff respect, but not tonight. Just my opinion.
See you on FaceBook...
Haul yuh mudda c0nt ah say ... go and crawl back into de facebook hole yuh now crawl out of ...yuh facking dunce.
Berris + Bake N Shark... I stand corrected! After watching the game again and focussing more on Stern than the play of the entire team, I did not give Stern the credit he deserved. He definately worked much harder than I first assessed and was definately one of the top 3 TNT players on the field.(I thought Carlos and Birchall were the other 2).
I stand by my comment that he gave up on a couple of plays, hoping he was going to get a foul call, if he had played to the whistle he may have gotten a well deserved goal in the 1st half. He definately deserved much more credit than I or some others gave him. I apologize for letting my frustration/dissappointment of the entire teams performance cloud my judgement of Stern's individual effort.
Sulty, it takes a big man(if you are the other sex I apologize, lol) to admit his errors after being rebuked so harshly(can't really blame them for defending Stern like that, cause he gets so much disgusting unjust criticism and is absolutely unappreciated, makes me sick of T&T) I maintain Berris is rel kicks, I rel appreciate how he and Bake n Shark stands up for the injustices against Stern John(who is a True Trini Patriot), but are they a little to harsh sometimes(?) Still funny and effective though, lol.
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Stern John was a legend and is still a legend.
The man is get pong all de time from his own, and he's come back time and time again and always put country before club.
f**k all de haters
Yuh might not like him but yuh hadda repeck him.
Legend
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When last stern john scored a goal period? the man clock ticking like he in menopause ;D
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I does pong stern plenty on this site but he does work hard at trying to get the job done but most of my critism comes from when he makes promises and he doh deliver,such is life he's only human but he has proven he's a top class striker when his game is on there's nobody better......
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Allyuh watch this space,
I remember 4 years ago around this time we get a proper cutarse in Guatemala City.... men was wasting down the 14
History has a way of repeating itself....
There is also a saying.."Lightening doh stike the same place twice!"
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Stern John BEST T&T PLAYER LAST NIGHT!
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I wonder if men see Altidore over the bar from 6 yards out. :rotfl:
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Altidore raped both Aklie and Wolfe last night, call de fcoking DPP...
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
Rewatch the game if you can. He played well imo...Did you notice the absolute difference in touch between him and KJ? Perfect technique and good distribution...including some good passes to free up Carlos and Keon (once). Worked hard to track back to win the ball or provide an outlet pass for a midfield that was largely devoid of ideas (except Carlos). I already mentioned his one glaring error of Carlos' cross...but you may be confusing Stern with KJ. He couldn't get a thing right. Poor fella. I have no desire to waste him down when he clearly lacking form and confidence. Just compare Carlos last night and Carlos a year ago..and you realize that sometimes you bess players could look unrecognizable when the chips down. Really hoping for him to get his game together, but there was a wide gulf in class between the two. Look sulty went back and watch the game again and had to rectract his statements. Anyone who say Stern played poorly or did nothing either confused him with KJ at times, or really lacks any idea of what good forward play is outside of scoring goals.
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Allyuh watch this space,
I remember 4 years ago around this time we get a proper cutarse in Guatemala City.... men was wasting down the 14
History has a way of repeating itself....
There is also a saying.."Lightening doh stike the same place twice!"
What goes around comes around ;D
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Stern had a good game.... he fought hard. Ease up on him nah!
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Berris + Bake N Shark... I stand corrected! After watching the game again and focussing more on Stern than the play of the entire team, I did not give Stern the credit he deserved. He definately worked much harder than I first assessed and was definately one of the top 3 TNT players on the field.(I thought Carlos and Birchall were the other 2).
I stand by my comment that he gave up on a couple of plays, hoping he was going to get a foul call, if he had played to the whistle he may have gotten a well deserved goal in the 1st half. He definately deserved much more credit than I or some others gave him. I apologize for letting my frustration/dissappointment of the entire teams performance cloud my judgement of Stern's individual effort.
No scenes... :beermug:
Doh study Berris... yuh cyah say nutten bad about Stern on dis board when Berris arung :rotfl:
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Berris + Bake N Shark... I stand corrected! After watching the game again and focussing more on Stern than the play of the entire team, I did not give Stern the credit he deserved. He definately worked much harder than I first assessed and was definately one of the top 3 TNT players on the field.(I thought Carlos and Birchall were the other 2).
I stand by my comment that he gave up on a couple of plays, hoping he was going to get a foul call, if he had played to the whistle he may have gotten a well deserved goal in the 1st half. He definately deserved much more credit than I or some others gave him. I apologize for letting my frustration/dissappointment of the entire teams performance cloud my judgement of Stern's individual effort.
No scenes... :beermug:
Doh study Berris... yuh cyah say nutten bad about Stern on dis board when Berris arung :rotfl:
Respek Sulty , yuh is ah big man, as Bakes say is 'no scenes'.. ..buh doh study Bakes he just like tuh cuss ppl fuh nuttin ;D :beermug:
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Certain man have to do like Sulty and watch de game again because is obvious that any player who toots down de place was incorrectly called Stern, men mixing up KJ,Keon,A.Edwards fuh Stern....Lucky thing Carlos had a good game else they woulda think he was Stern....
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
Rewatch the game if you can. He played well imo...Did you notice the absolute difference in touch between him and KJ? Perfect technique and good distribution...including some good passes to free up Carlos and Keon (once). Worked hard to track back to win the ball or provide an outlet pass for a midfield that was largely devoid of ideas (except Carlos). I already mentioned his one glaring error of Carlos' cross...but you may be confusing Stern with KJ. He couldn't get a thing right. Poor fella. I have no desire to waste him down when he clearly lacking form and confidence. Just compare Carlos last night and Carlos a year ago..and you realize that sometimes you bess players could look unrecognizable when the chips down. Really hoping for him to get his game together, but there was a wide gulf in class between the two. Look sulty went back and watch the game again and had to rectract his statements. Anyone who say Stern played poorly or did nothing either confused him with KJ at times, or really lacks any idea of what good forward play is outside of scoring goals.
Filho, im not arguing his touch. Hes got talent so his touch will be there. His work rate was poor poor poor! Yes, he tracked back into the midfield at times (usually only in the first half), but he didnt do any pressing whilst there! How many times did he dispossess a US player or make a good run for a pass? The entire second half he was fighting his teammates down as always, walking around the pitch. Offensively, he had a couple of half chances that he did nothing with. KJ was poor, too. But, this is a Stern thread and both had a poor game. Its one thing to say he tracked back now and then in the first half but it didnt result in much. It was more like he was placed in the midfield by a coach, and he did his let me stroll around like a fat f**k routine. Agree re Carlos.
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I am a big stern John fan.....but like is a style now to hate on the man, all kinda man on d street have ah opinion....half of them cah name nobody on d side beisdes birchall yorke an latas. when he start back scoring i wanna see wa ppl go say.
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Stern did alright, he was no hard worker. yes his touch is good, but how often did he find himself in a position to recieve a ball.
What get me real mad with Stern is right from the get go the man start wasting down Akile. I mean not even 5 minutes gone and he yelling and gesticulating at the fella. I eh no Akile fan, but give the man a chance to settle nah.
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Filho...you wasting yuh time with them fellas??>..
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
Rewatch the game if you can. He played well imo...Did you notice the absolute difference in touch between him and KJ? Perfect technique and good distribution...including some good passes to free up Carlos and Keon (once). Worked hard to track back to win the ball or provide an outlet pass for a midfield that was largely devoid of ideas (except Carlos). I already mentioned his one glaring error of Carlos' cross...but you may be confusing Stern with KJ. He couldn't get a thing right. Poor fella. I have no desire to waste him down when he clearly lacking form and confidence. Just compare Carlos last night and Carlos a year ago..and you realize that sometimes you bess players could look unrecognizable when the chips down. Really hoping for him to get his game together, but there was a wide gulf in class between the two. Look sulty went back and watch the game again and had to rectract his statements. Anyone who say Stern played poorly or did nothing either confused him with KJ at times, or really lacks any idea of what good forward play is outside of scoring goals.
Filho, im not arguing his touch. Hes got talent so his touch will be there. His work rate was poor poor poor! Yes, he tracked back into the midfield at times (usually only in the first half), but he didnt do any pressing whilst there! How many times did he dispossess a US player or make a good run for a pass? The entire second half he was fighting his teammates down as always, walking around the pitch. Offensively, he had a couple of half chances that he did nothing with. KJ was poor, too. But, this is a Stern thread and both had a poor game. Its one thing to say he tracked back now and then in the first half but it didnt result in much. It was more like he was placed in the midfield by a coach, and he did his let me stroll around like a fat f**k routine. Agree re Carlos.
Boss..how you go ask all dem questions and I done answer dem already in the first 3 lines of my post. We agree to disagree then.
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And he jogging around tired in the 2nd half. Somebody get a wheelchair for him, he old
was our best forward today. 100% better hold up play and distribution than KJ, who looked really out of sorts. thought Stern played well, but missed one golden opportunity when he mistrapped Carlos' cross at the far post after a superb run by the wide man. otherwise, i doh see how anyone can fault him tonight. the team didn't have 3 sitters all game ???
Filho, i dont know what game you watched. Stern did nothing all match long.
Rewatch the game if you can. He played well imo...Did you notice the absolute difference in touch between him and KJ? Perfect technique and good distribution...including some good passes to free up Carlos and Keon (once). Worked hard to track back to win the ball or provide an outlet pass for a midfield that was largely devoid of ideas (except Carlos). I already mentioned his one glaring error of Carlos' cross...but you may be confusing Stern with KJ. He couldn't get a thing right. Poor fella. I have no desire to waste him down when he clearly lacking form and confidence. Just compare Carlos last night and Carlos a year ago..and you realize that sometimes you bess players could look unrecognizable when the chips down. Really hoping for him to get his game together, but there was a wide gulf in class between the two. Look sulty went back and watch the game again and had to rectract his statements. Anyone who say Stern played poorly or did nothing either confused him with KJ at times, or really lacks any idea of what good forward play is outside of scoring goals.
Filho, im not arguing his touch. Hes got talent so his touch will be there. His work rate was poor poor poor! Yes, he tracked back into the midfield at times (usually only in the first half), but he didnt do any pressing whilst there! How many times did he dispossess a US player or make a good run for a pass? The entire second half he was fighting his teammates down as always, walking around the pitch. Offensively, he had a couple of half chances that he did nothing with. KJ was poor, too. But, this is a Stern thread and both had a poor game. Its one thing to say he tracked back now and then in the first half but it didnt result in much. It was more like he was placed in the midfield by a coach, and he did his let me stroll around like a fat f**k routine. Agree re Carlos.
Boss..how you go ask all dem questions and I done answer dem already in the first 3 lines of my post. We agree to disagree then.
Like i said, we watched two different games.
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Stern did alright, he was no hard worker. yes his touch is good, but how often did he find himself in a position to recieve a ball.
What get me real mad with Stern is right from the get go the man start wasting down Akile. I mean not even 5 minutes gone and he yelling and gesticulating at the fella. I eh no Akile fan, but give the man a chance to settle nah.
You're ah joker ...nah nah nah ah stand corrected, you're ah bias joker .
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Stern was one of our better performers in the last game- no debate about that. One of the few players who actually looked like a pro player.
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Stern was one of our better performers in the last game- no debate about that. One of the few players who actually looked like a pro player.
some men here jes hard headed and or fcoking blind!
Stern ran his ass off, where de arse was KJ for most attempted passes? Stern is technically so much better than KJ and Scotland it is painful!
Stern took down so many passes and while he was attempting to direct the younger players he getting pong for that!
Keon only walking with de damn ball and den passing it to the yankees, or losing it to the same man he took it from...like he suck tooloom!
Allyuh leave stern alone, de man was we BEST PLAYER last game!
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Stern is a boss, one of the few players that performed... On top of that he was heavily marked, and still made space for himself...He was the only one limping after he game...True Warrior...
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Guys,
Look how much service Jozy and Landon get from their mids and assistance from their wing backs. How much good balls did Stern get. Most on his chest or head. Most time his back to the goal. He is not getting the quality from the middle and from the wings. How do we expect him to score consistently.
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Stern played well but he should have went foward more. He is a striker not a C.A.M.
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Stern did alright, he was no hard worker. yes his touch is good, but how often did he find himself in a position to recieve a ball.
What get me real mad with Stern is right from the get go the man start wasting down Akile. I mean not even 5 minutes gone and he yelling and gesticulating at the fella. I eh no Akile fan, but give the man a chance to settle nah.
You're ah joker ...nah nah nah ah stand corrected, you're ah bias joker .
Stern is a boss, one of the few players that performed... On top of that he was heavily marked, and still made space for himself...He was the only one limping after he game...True Warrior...
Stern was one of our better performers in the last game- no debate about that. One of the few players who actually looked like a pro player.
Stern was one of our better performers in the last game- no debate about that. One of the few players who actually looked like a pro player.
Seeing that we don't know and understand the game. Can any of you tell me USA tactics when dealing with Stern and KJ? How did that tactic play out in the game and what could T&T have done to counter said (USA) tactics?
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Seeing that we don't know and understand the game. Can any of you tell me USA tactics when dealing with Stern and KJ? How did that tactic play out in the game and what could T&T have done to counter said (USA) tactics?
Who accused anyone of not understanding the game? You on mamaguy talk man....coming with that facetious tone asking about USA tactics- what does that have to do with my opinion that Stern had a good game?
Just my opinion... You don't agree that's fine...I take no issue with that.
But anyways, based on how the game played out- It looked like Carlos & KJ got the most special attention from Americans. Carlos dealt with it well in my opinion as I think he still got the better of Beasely when he was able to get isolation. In terms of Kenwyne, I think if he was able to execute clean one touch plays, and if we had an attacking midfielder with the enterprise to penetrate through the middle (or even if Stern & KJ worked better off of eachother) we could have made more use of any gaps that were left by U.S.A's doubling up on KJ. Unfortunately for us, KJ for the most part was unable to execute plays with his back to the goal, the U.S. defenders were able to sufficiently pressure him and keep his back to the goal, and by their pressure and his poor touch they were successful.....add to that, our movement off the ball into the supporting spaces (created by their doubling up on him) was absent.
That's just my humble view from watching on TV...I doh know nuttin' about football either....happy? :-\
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Seeing that we don't know and understand the game. Can any of you tell me USA tactics when dealing with Stern and KJ? How did that tactic play out in the game and what could T&T have done to counter said (USA) tactics?
Who accused anyone of not understanding the game? You on mamaguy talk man....coming with that facetious tone asking about USA tactics- what does that have to do with my opinion that Stern had a good game?
Just my opinion... You don't agree that's fine...I take no issue with that.
But anyways, based on how the game played out- It looked like Carlos & KJ got the most special attention from Americans. Carlos dealt with it well in my opinion as I think he still got the better of Beasely when he was able to get isolation. In terms of Kenwyne, I think if he was able to execute clean one touch plays, and if we had an attacking midfielder with the enterprise to penetrate through the middle (or even if Stern & KJ worked better off of eachother) we could have made more use of any gaps that were left by U.S.A's doubling up on KJ. Unfortunately for us, KJ for the most part was unable to execute plays with his back to the goal, the U.S. defenders were able to sufficiently pressure him and keep his back to the goal, and by their pressure and his poor touch they were successful.....add to that, our movement off the ball into the supporting spaces (created by their doubling up on him) was absent.
That's just my humble view from watching on TV...I doh know nuttin' about football either....happy? :-\
If that's the only way you could take it well sorry. Is nothing about being facetious or anything like that. It's just some of us need to see different perspective on the game. You don't need to get defensive and be like that. Don't you think this is a good question?
I don't look at the game just so. I don't even look at our team first.
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I used to be a big fan of the the man but last week i hear so much things from an insider that he does cus up the younger players and treat the local base players with no respect. so everytime i see him i watch him in different way. My view is tainted from now on.
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Corbeaux,
How can Stern go forward more when he hardly getting the ball to foot. He is no exceptional dribbler, but anywwhere facing the keeper in the 6yd box is trouble. He was hardly ever in those position the other night.
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I used to be a big fan of the the man but last week i hear so much things from an insider that he does cus up the younger players and treat the local base players with no respect. so everytime i see him i watch him in different way. My view is tainted from now on.
You know if that insider have some grudge against Stern?
Suppose I gone tell ah next man Babalawo is an kinda ass... dah man does only make dotish post on SW.net... and dah man start hating on you for that sole reason, never once talking to you as an individual... how yuh go like dat?
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I used to be a big fan of the the man but last week i hear so much things from an insider that he does cus up the younger players and treat the local base players with no respect. so everytime i see him i watch him in different way. My view is tainted from now on.
You know if that insider have some grudge against Stern?
Suppose I gone tell ah next man Babalawo is an kinda ass... dah man does only make dotish post on SW.net... and dah man start hating on you for that sole reason, never once talking to you as an individual... how yuh go like dat?
THAT does happen on here
guaranteed
I know that the nancy boys go LOVE this one
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Certain man have to do like Sulty and watch de game again because is obvious that any player who toots down de place was incorrectly called Stern, men mixing up KJ,Keon,A.Edwards fuh Stern....Lucky thing Carlos had a good game else they woulda think he was Stern....
yo dis is sooo true, meh breds wife was watching at home and keep txting him dat Stern playing rel shyte only to find out she was mistaking KJ for Stern all de time yes.
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Certain man have to do like Sulty and watch de game again because is obvious that any player who toots down de place was incorrectly called Stern, men mixing up KJ,Keon,A.Edwards fuh Stern....Lucky thing Carlos had a good game else they woulda think he was Stern....
yo dis is sooo true, meh breds wife was watching at home and keep txting him dat Stern playing rel shyte only to find out she was mistaking KJ for Stern all de time yes.
yeah
dem suffering from
Digruntledticulitist
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I used to be a big fan of the the man but last week i hear so much things from an insider that he does cus up the younger players and treat the local base players with no respect. so everytime i see him i watch him in different way. My view is tainted from now on.
Yuh damn right tuh have ah tainted view of him becuz of what 'an insider' say .....So please doh geh vex wid me fuh thinking yuh like man , becuz ah 'insider' tell meh yuh does bite pillow fuh ah living .Now me eh know you, but with your logic and way of thinking ..''my view is tainted from now on ''
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Seeing that we don't know and understand the game. Can any of you tell me USA tactics when dealing with Stern and KJ? How did that tactic play out in the game and what could T&T have done to counter said (USA) tactics?
Who accused anyone of not understanding the game? You on mamaguy talk man....coming with that facetious tone asking about USA tactics- what does that have to do with my opinion that Stern had a good game?
Just my opinion... You don't agree that's fine...I take no issue with that.
But anyways, based on how the game played out- It looked like Carlos & KJ got the most special attention from Americans. Carlos dealt with it well in my opinion as I think he still got the better of Beasely when he was able to get isolation. In terms of Kenwyne, I think if he was able to execute clean one touch plays, and if we had an attacking midfielder with the enterprise to penetrate through the middle (or even if Stern & KJ worked better off of eachother) we could have made more use of any gaps that were left by U.S.A's doubling up on KJ. Unfortunately for us, KJ for the most part was unable to execute plays with his back to the goal, the U.S. defenders were able to sufficiently pressure him and keep his back to the goal, and by their pressure and his poor touch they were successful.....add to that, our movement off the ball into the supporting spaces (created by their doubling up on him) was absent.
That's just my humble view from watching on TV...I doh know nuttin' about football either....happy? :-\
If that's the only way you could take it well sorry. Is nothing about being facetious or anything like that. It's just some of us need to see different perspective on the game. You don't need to get defensive and be like that. Don't you think this is a good question?
I don't look at the game just so. I don't even look at our team first.
oh right..so you were being genuine when you said you didn't know or understand the game? so genuine in fact that you felt the need to speak on behalf of others (unless you jess like to refer to yourself as 'we') ::) and then have the gall to tell man not be be so defensive :rotfl: steeups
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Everybody entitled to their own opinion eh.
I personally find SJ is the best forward i see in a T&T shirt in my generation, better than Dwight and KJ so far.
KJ still young and may get better in national colours, like Dwight did in his latter years.
Its because of his style, he is a pure goal poacher. When they score, they are the most loved. When they off key, they are like the manager, the first to be dropped.
Watch at the careers of a men like Inzaghi or Raul. Men who been on the 2 ends of public opinion most of the time, simply because of their style - goalpoacher and nothing else.
Now, if u have a game like Zlatan or Rooney, men who actually create and run, it different. Even when u not scoring, it still hard to hate, cause they still pose a different threat.
We dont have any player in the mould of the latter, athough a lot of us hope that KJ be more like that. Cornel Glen is the closest thing we have to that - it is no coincidence that he has an extremely poor international goalscoring record, yet he is more popular than Stern it seems...
Stern John is a special type of player. When he is in form, he is the biggest worry for CONCACAF opposition.
I remember living in Ja, and the average man on the street feared SJ more than hotshot Dwight Yorke.
We have to be patient with him, cause most likely he will come through for us soon enough.
Lets face it - Jason Scotland may have a very good record in the UK, but like Dwight and maybe KJ, he just does not cut it for us at this level.
Maybe its time to start looking again at Darryl Roberts and Cornel Glen to partner SJ up front again.....
If KJ starts back scoring for sunderland for the remainder of the season...maybe a recall.
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Everybody entitled to their own opinion eh.
I personally find SJ is the best forward i see in a T&T shirt in my generation, better than Dwight and KJ so far.
KJ still young and may get better in national colours, like Dwight did in his latter years.
Its because of his style, he is a pure goal poacher. When they score, they are the most loved. When they off key, they are like the manager, the first to be dropped.
Watch at the careers of a men like Inzaghi or Raul. Men who been on the 2 ends of public opinion most of the time, simply because of their style - goalpoacher and nothing else.
Now, if u have a game like Zlatan or Rooney, men who actually create and run, it different. Even when u not scoring, it still hard to hate, cause they still pose a different threat.
We dont have any player in the mould of the latter, athough a lot of us hope that KJ be more like that. Cornel Glen is the closest thing we have to that - it is no coincidence that he has an extremely poor international goalscoring record, yet he is more popular than Stern it seems...
Stern John is a special type of player. When he is in form, he is the biggest worry for CONCACAF opposition.
I remember living in Ja, and the average man on the street feared SJ more than hotshot Dwight Yorke.
We have to be patient with him, cause most likely he will come through for us soon enough.
Lets face it - Jason Scotland may have a very good record in the UK, but like Dwight and maybe KJ, he just does not cut it for us at this level.
Maybe its time to start looking again at Darryl Roberts and Cornel Glen to partner SJ up front again.....
If KJ starts back scoring for sunderland for the remainder of the season...maybe a recall.
I with yuh dey
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Everybody entitled to their own opinion eh.
I personally find SJ is the best forward i see in a T&T shirt in my generation, better than Dwight and KJ so far.
KJ still young and may get better in national colours, like Dwight did in his latter years.
Its because of his style, he is a pure goal poacher. When they score, they are the most loved. When they off key, they are like the manager, the first to be dropped.
Watch at the careers of a men like Inzaghi or Raul. Men who been on the 2 ends of public opinion most of the time, simply because of their style - goalpoacher and nothing else.
Now, if u have a game like Zlatan or Rooney, men who actually create and run, it different. Even when u not scoring, it still hard to hate, cause they still pose a different threat.
We dont have any player in the mould of the latter, athough a lot of us hope that KJ be more like that. Cornel Glen is the closest thing we have to that - it is no coincidence that he has an extremely poor international goalscoring record, yet he is more popular than Stern it seems...
Stern John is a special type of player. When he is in form, he is the biggest worry for CONCACAF opposition.
I remember living in Ja, and the average man on the street feared SJ more than hotshot Dwight Yorke.
We have to be patient with him, cause most likely he will come through for us soon enough.
Lets face it - Jason Scotland may have a very good record in the UK, but like Dwight and maybe KJ, he just does not cut it for us at this level.
Maybe its time to start looking again at Darryl Roberts and Cornel Glen to partner SJ up front again.....
If KJ starts back scoring for sunderland for the remainder of the season...maybe a recall.
Yuh preach dey boss ...very well said :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Seeing that we don't know and understand the game. Can any of you tell me USA tactics when dealing with Stern and KJ? How did that tactic play out in the game and what could T&T have done to counter said (USA) tactics?
Who accused anyone of not understanding the game? You on mamaguy talk man....coming with that facetious tone asking about USA tactics- what does that have to do with my opinion that Stern had a good game?
Just my opinion... You don't agree that's fine...I take no issue with that.
But anyways, based on how the game played out- It looked like Carlos & KJ got the most special attention from Americans. Carlos dealt with it well in my opinion as I think he still got the better of Beasely when he was able to get isolation. In terms of Kenwyne, I think if he was able to execute clean one touch plays, and if we had an attacking midfielder with the enterprise to penetrate through the middle (or even if Stern & KJ worked better off of eachother) we could have made more use of any gaps that were left by U.S.A's doubling up on KJ. Unfortunately for us, KJ for the most part was unable to execute plays with his back to the goal, the U.S. defenders were able to sufficiently pressure him and keep his back to the goal, and by their pressure and his poor touch they were successful.....add to that, our movement off the ball into the supporting spaces (created by their doubling up on him) was absent.
That's just my humble view from watching on TV...I doh know nuttin' about football either....happy? :-\
If that's the only way you could take it well sorry. Is nothing about being facetious or anything like that. It's just some of us need to see different perspective on the game. You don't need to get defensive and be like that. Don't you think this is a good question?
I don't look at the game just so. I don't even look at our team first.
oh right..so you were being genuine when you said you didn't know or understand the game? so genuine in fact that you felt the need to speak on behalf of others (unless you jess like to refer to yourself as 'we') ::) and then have the gall to tell man not be be so defensive :rotfl: steeups
Yeah all that..
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Stern's a free agent
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF)
English-based striker Stern John will definitely be wearing a different club shirt next season after ending his loan spell with Championship Division club Bristol City this week. John, who has been in England since 1999, is now a free agent and is likely to tie up a new deal before the start of the new season.
According to John, he wants at least another season in England.
My loan deal with Bristol is over and my contract with Southampton is also up so Im a free agent now, John told TTFF Media.
Im a free agent since January and I can afford to sign elsewhere when I want but Ive left it up to my agent and well see how things go from there.
Id like to play at least one more season in England. But then I will like to come back to the MLS. Thats where it all started for me and hopefully I can get the chance to finish it there. Well see because football can be a strange game so you never know what can happen. Ill make my decision when the time is right.
John added that with his history in the MLS, he would look into the possibility of setting up a coaching school in the US.
That is definitely one of my dreams to go back to Columbus and do well. My game is pretty good there and its left to be seen if I can go there and start a soccer school. Time will tell I guess, the 32-year-old John said.
You can expect me playing for as long as possible because football is my life. I want to keep playing until Im 39 or 40 like Russell and those guys, John added before mixing his words a bit comically.
I think I still have a lot to offer as a player especially for Trinidad and Tobago even though they may not want me, he laughed.
Hopefully I can continue working hard, stay fit and everything else will fall into place.
John said while the current 2010 campaign has not been easy by any means for the Soca Warriors they can still pick themselves up and move forward to South Africa.
For me personally it wasnt the easiest thing missing a penalty in El Salvador and ending up giving up two points. But its part of the game. A lot of people have short memory. As a player you are only judged by your last game and you are only as good as your last game. Its just a matter of time before the goals start coming in.
He believes T&T has what it takes to get the required results starting from the next clash against Costa Rica at the Dwight Yorke Stadium on June 6.
We have enough good players in this team to win games. But we have to take our chances when they come. As long as we do that then I think we will be fine. Its important that we get a good result against Costa Rica. We need to give Russell the fullest support as players and work together to try and get the results that will take us to South Africa. I think we are still very capable of achieving that, John said.
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Interesting.
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Stern we do want you man. And anyone who says different is clouded. At this point however I believe coming off de bench to thief 1 or 2 in de last quarter of de game should be where you set your sights. In addition to teachin de youths to do what you do so well... Score goals.
Stern "Bound to Score" John is a TnT Legend.
I mean dat!
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send him to Mau Pau :rotfl:
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
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send him to Mau Pau :rotfl:
??? U eh get cuss yet. I suggest dat DL come and man upset.
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aye, oh yeah, keon daniel too, i fed up with he. he has no game. show me something when it matters the most. allyuh can't sell me on yesterday because that moment is gone. what has keon daniel done lately. absolutely nothing. where is your game son?.
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BM here...deese...easy
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
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DC United.
But yuh didn't here that from me eh 8)
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DC United.
But yuh didn't here that from me eh 8)
Hey I would love that.... he could be an asset to us.....! ;D
So he want to open a coaching school? Is Disgruntled his first student?
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
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The King on to something- The man speaking the truth. I feel the same way. Talk from we big boys but no action. With the names on our roster we should be right up there with the USA. We have become worriers rather than Warriors.
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The man say he want to stay until 40...lawd. I like Stern, he has done well for us but he hadda understand that is not just about him and what he can do. The longer he stays, he prevents a younger player from developing..and that is the problem.
Whether or not he is the best striker we currently have or has ever had, by being selfish and thinking about his desires to carry on, he is preventing us as a nation from improving. He here already so i guess it doh make sense to for him to leave of his own accord during the current crisis but he hadda be honest enough and fair enough to his country to understand that if he unemployed and not scoring (whether or not in his head he think he playign well) he going on reputation and past achievements alone and that is not right or healthy for other strikers who he preventing from getting that exposure to take it to the next level.
Both Yorke and Latas have moved on in the past and it was only because the people who came after them never was able to take up the mantle they were forced back. Stern never allowed anybody a chance to at least try to take up the mantle.
I hope he find a club. I really feel he should try to go to Scotland and get back hitting the back of the net regularly as the Championship have a preconceived notion of him already and wherever he goes he will not be guaranteed a long enough run to allow him to start back scoring.
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The man say he want to stay until 40...lawd. I like Stern, he has done well for us but he hadda understand that is not just about him and what he can do. The longer he stays, he prevents a younger player from developing..and that is the problem.
Whether or not he is the best striker we currently have or has ever had, by being selfish and thinking about his desires to carry on, he is preventing us as a nation from improving. He here already so i guess it doh make sense to for him to leave of his own accord during the current crisis but he hadda be honest enough and fair enough to his country to understand that if he unemployed and not scoring (whether or not in his head he think he playign well) he going on reputation and past achievements alone and that is not right or healthy for other strikers who he preventing from getting that exposure to take it to the next level.
Both Yorke and Latas have moved on in the past and it was only because the people who came after them never was able to take up the mantle they were forced back. Stern never allowed anybody a chance to at least try to take up the mantle.
I hope he find a club. I really feel he should try to go to Scotland and get back hitting the back of the net regularly as the Championship have a preconceived notion of him already and wherever he goes he will not be guaranteed a long enough run to allow him to start back scoring.
d ting he is no latapy or yorke, Yorke reinevented himself when the goals dryed, u don't really see stern trying to do dat, he seems to want to be in the front line, and honestly I dont see an end to dis goal drought any time soon, their are too many others acheivin d main functions as strikers.............scoring goals, to be spendin 90 mins upon 90 mins trying to wake a "sleepin giant" dat might actually be dead. If stern want to continue he should take ah page from dwight book, close d striker chapter of he career
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Stern, go back to where it all began in the UK.....Forest. Ent he does live in the midlands so it would be an easy commute and we playing Championship ball next season. The way we play currently might actually suit the kind of player Stern has become....and that is considerably different to how he played when he first came to the UK. Wether the Manager fancy him is another story.
Having said that I know a number of fellow supporters who would kill me for merely thinking such a thing as many thought he was a waste of money. I think he would do quite well.
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Having said that I know a number of fellow supporters who would kill me for merely thinking such a thing as many thought he was a waste of money. I think he would do quite well.
forrest supporters hated stern this is new news....
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The man say he want to stay until 40...lawd. I like Stern, he has done well for us but he hadda understand that is not just about him and what he can do. The longer he stays, he prevents a younger player from developing..and that is the problem.
He didn't say dat he want to play for de national team until he is 40. He merely say dat he would like to keep playing ball until he is 40. It eh no different to men like Sheringham.
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Man vex wit him for saying he want to play til 40? We reach de point now where we hating him for wanting a long successful career? Sheesh.
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Having said that I know a number of fellow supporters who would kill me for merely thinking such a thing as many thought he was a waste of money. I think he would do quite well.
forrest supporters hated stern this is new news....
Hate is a strong word to be used with Forest.....but I would say at the time he left many were indifferent about him going and a fair few were glad to see the back of him but most were unhappy with the club. Though he played for Derby/Coventry....he was crap/mediocre there so I doubt many truely hate him. Hate from Fans in the UK usually means the player was disrespectful towards their club or a success at a rival team. Can't really say that about John.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Wat about a striker who can...ahm score goals...because that's what win games...not how fast you can run past a defender!! Cornell needs to work on finishing and his touch before you can start labeling him better than John. Stern getting older and the goals not coming as easy as they used to....i understand that...but if you want to make comparisons why dont you put cornell in stern place for the last world cup campaign and you tell me if glenn would have done wat stern did for us. you talk about forgetting d past....yuh cant brethren because if it wasnt for the same fella u want to discard jamaica would still be the only english speaking caribbean country to play in a world cup. im not saying stern needs to be a full time starter currently, based on form, but i wouldnt put glenn there either...based on form. Roberts and Scotty need a shot before glenn and andre (what a joke to try and talk about this fella with stren). shoot i would quicker put meh boy mcfarlane before andre!! at least we get goals from errol. but to outright discard stern is madness...hopefully he can come off the bench and give us some sort of goalscoring. i dont have the same faith in glenn currently..until he proves me wrong. :beermug:
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You can expect me playing for as long as possible because football is my life. I want to keep playing until Im 39 or 40 like Russell and those guys, John added before mixing his words a bit comically.
I think I still have a lot to offer as a player especially for Trinidad and Tobago even though they may not want me, he laughed.
I eh know, the way the sentence was structured and the fact that he was talking to the TTFF make it sound to me like he implying national team, but it can be seen either way.
The fact is, he plan to be around for a long time again and he still have the confindence and bravado that has seen him become our record goal scorer. I just hope he let reality catch up with his reputation in his head so he recognise the level he is at right now. Michael Own and Robbie Fowler were record goal scorers too...and neither past 30 as great players. At least Stern could say he do that.
And Rodney, I doh think Stern getting to pick and chooose which side he playing for next season...he more in the shop window than getting to shop around.
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And Rodney, I doh think Stern getting to pick and chooose which side he playing for next season...he more in the shop window than getting to shop around.
Can't disagree with yuh. Ah was merely stating a wish.
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As Obama said .." even a President has to go " ..Stern has to realise it cant go on forever ....unless he wants to get to Yeovil town ...Guys like Lawrence and Stern should not hang around much longer to lose their reputation...
Being a free agent means ????....you are free to come home when you like ...you are free to take a pay cut...
You get to concentrate on the next generation .... you can talk about the good old days !!
Time is a level adjudicator ......if its on your side you good to go ...if not then you good to go
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The King on to something- The man speaking the truth. I feel the same way. Talk from we big boys but no action. With the names on our roster we should be right up there with the USA. We have become worriers rather than Warriors.
injun, here what, stern was nice back in the days, don't get me wrong, he did a lot for tnt football but now tnt football has to be real. you have to be in game shape to get a run and when you get that chance you have to come up with more than just lip service, partner, you have to produce. yeah, he is a free agent, that should tell you a lot.
now, lemme address something before i go. we are not better that usa, mexico, honduras, costa rica, and el salvador because we have failed miserably over the years to prepare and if you fail to prepare you should prepare to fail. people saying that glenn is a run at a defense player and that he can't carry other people's jock strap. dese people joking.
i went back in time a little bit and came up with this:
Kelvin Barclay, Russell Tesheira (Raymond Moraldo 81st), Selwyn Murren, Selris Figaro, Lawrence Rondon, Everald Cummings, Dennis Morgan, Anthony Douglas, Steve David, Steve Kahn (Sydney Augustine 74th), Warren Archibald, Leroy De Leon, Leon Carpette, Leroy Spann, Noel Sammy Lewellyn, Wilfred Cave, Kendall Walkes.
Everald Cummings - run at a defense player
Steve David - one of the best power/center forwards to pass through tnt
Warren Archibald - probably the most dangerous run at a defense player to ever pass through tnt
Leroy De Leon - all world midfielder and run at a defense player
Leon Carpette - run at a defense player
Leroy Spann - run at a defense player
Noel Sammy Lewellyn - another one of those very dangerous and cunning run at a defense player
Kendall Walkes - run at a defense player.
enough said.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
Come on JC if all our forward could do is hold up the ball who will score the goals. All we forwards playing with they back to the goal and don't turn. We need fowards who can run at defenders and make then think twice. With two post upplayers on the field, we are so predicatable and easy to deal with.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Wat about a striker who can...ahm score goals...because that's what win games...not how fast you can run past a defender!! Cornell needs to work on finishing and his touch before you can start labeling him better than John. Stern getting older and the goals not coming as easy as they used to....i understand that...but if you want to make comparisons why dont you put cornell in stern place for the last world cup campaign and you tell me if glenn would have done wat stern did for us. you talk about forgetting d past....yuh cant brethren because if it wasnt for the same fella u want to discard jamaica would still be the only english speaking caribbean country to play in a world cup. im not saying stern needs to be a full time starter currently, based on form, but i wouldnt put glenn there either...based on form. Roberts and Scotty need a shot before glenn and andre (what a joke to try and talk about this fella with stren). shoot i would quicker put meh boy mcfarlane before andre!! at least we get goals from errol. but to outright discard stern is madness...hopefully he can come off the bench and give us some sort of goalscoring. i dont have the same faith in glenn currently..until he proves me wrong. :beermug:
ahm... i am not saying he should replace stern john because they are not the same kind of back to the goal players. however, what i am saying is you cannot have stern john, who is past his prime, and kenwyne jones, who is all talk and no results, on the same front line in the same game. dat is assinine. you need players like a glenn who can cause havoc on a defense and who can set up the other forward to score goals like a jason scotland, who happens to be the sharpest tnt forward in the world right now, when your all defensive, non creative, non controlling, no attacking midfield cannot do it.
lemme take you back the '06 world cup where stern john was rendered hapless and kenwyne jones was non existent and your boy mcfarlane could not make the team and roberts was probably even born yet and the only player who put the fear of god in the opposing defense was non other than you know who.
in the '07 gold cup roberts was the third or fourth best tnt player on the field. bossman, if your frontline players have the same non mobile skills like jones, john, and mcfarlane you cannot win the game.
comprende?
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I still doh understand why 4-4-1-1 isn't being employed, dat 4-4-2 with ah stagnant midfield "the coachin staff" insist on using eh wukkin, glen or roberts could fill that atticking mid/high up forward role nicely and form alone tells u that Scotland should be first call striker.
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DC United.
But yuh didn't here that from me eh 8)
Hey I would love that.... he could be an asset to us.....! ;D
So he want to open a coaching school? Is Disgruntled his first student?
Yeah I might have tuh adobt DC United as meh home team. Seeing that I live in VA
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If there was a hint of any other striker staking a true claim then i would be joing the call to let him ride into the sunset.
I doh really subscribe to the talk about a fair chance or run in the side to get goals.
To be the best you have to outperform who is already there. If you are a fringe player, you have perform outside and demand selection.
Can anyone honestly say that is happening currently? On top of that, the fringe player when given the slightest chance has to take it, and he doesnt have that many opportunities too cause he is unknown and tried and tested will always rise above the unknown.
We have a glaring example in front of us with Jason Scotland a player who has done his bit outside to demand selection but what has he done with his limited opportunity?
Compare it to when Stern John first came on the scene he was ruthless, he demanded selection and when he came to the national level, he delivered immediately and repeatedly, goals and more goals. That is why up till now he cannot be displaced.
Trust me, if the Toussaints and the Glens and the Roberts etc. were as ruthless then all this talk of Stern John would be a mute point. If the man really decided to hang up his boots and walk away it would bring about that empty feeling cause if we need a goal with 5 minutes to go. For the first time in a really long time we really dont know where it going to come from.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Wat about a striker who can...ahm score goals...because that's what win games...not how fast you can run past a defender!! Cornell needs to work on finishing and his touch before you can start labeling him better than John. Stern getting older and the goals not coming as easy as they used to....i understand that...but if you want to make comparisons why dont you put cornell in stern place for the last world cup campaign and you tell me if glenn would have done wat stern did for us. you talk about forgetting d past....yuh cant brethren because if it wasnt for the same fella u want to discard jamaica would still be the only english speaking caribbean country to play in a world cup. im not saying stern needs to be a full time starter currently, based on form, but i wouldnt put glenn there either...based on form. Roberts and Scotty need a shot before glenn and andre (what a joke to try and talk about this fella with stren). shoot i would quicker put meh boy mcfarlane before andre!! at least we get goals from errol. but to outright discard stern is madness...hopefully he can come off the bench and give us some sort of goalscoring. i dont have the same faith in glenn currently..until he proves me wrong. :beermug:
ahm... i am not saying he should replace stern john because they are not the same kind of back to the goal players. however, what i am saying is you cannot have stern john, who is past his prime, and kenwyne jones, who is all talk and no results, on the same front line in the same game. dat is assinine. you need players like a glenn who can cause havoc on a defense and who can set up the other forward to score goals like a jason scotland, who happens to be the sharpest tnt forward in the world right now, when your all defensive, non creative, non controlling, no attacking midfield cannot do it.
lemme take you back the '06 world cup where stern john was rendered hapless and kenwyne jones was non existent and your boy mcfarlane could not make the team and roberts was probably even born yet and the only player who put the fear of god in the opposing defense was non other than you know who.
in the '07 gold cup roberts was the third or fourth best tnt player on the field. bossman, if your frontline players have the same non mobile skills like jones, john, and mcfarlane you cannot win the game.
comprende?
OK, valid point about your up front pair. i'll give you that one cause to have 2 stagnant players up front is a waste of time. but IMO we have better options than glenn currently. you keep talking about not going back in the past when yuh talking about stern but you going back in time when yuh talking about glenn...so ah not understanding that. Scotty and Roberts and even jaggy for me shud get a first bly on our foward line if we going on current form. but my point was u just cant discard stern. he will always have that goal scoring gift that alot of our strikers (mr. glenn) seem to lack. :beermug:
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Free to throw away. we doh want him on the SW team. Let him go kick ball with de Savannah guys :chilling:
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Free to throw away. we doh want him on the SW team. Let him go kick ball with de Savannah guys :chilling:
now dat jus mean >:(, an I eh no fan
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Wat about a striker who can...ahm score goals...because that's what win games...not how fast you can run past a defender!! Cornell needs to work on finishing and his touch before you can start labeling him better than John. Stern getting older and the goals not coming as easy as they used to....i understand that...but if you want to make comparisons why dont you put cornell in stern place for the last world cup campaign and you tell me if glenn would have done wat stern did for us. you talk about forgetting d past....yuh cant brethren because if it wasnt for the same fella u want to discard jamaica would still be the only english speaking caribbean country to play in a world cup. im not saying stern needs to be a full time starter currently, based on form, but i wouldnt put glenn there either...based on form. Roberts and Scotty need a shot before glenn and andre (what a joke to try and talk about this fella with stren). shoot i would quicker put meh boy mcfarlane before andre!! at least we get goals from errol. but to outright discard stern is madness...hopefully he can come off the bench and give us some sort of goalscoring. i dont have the same faith in glenn currently..until he proves me wrong. :beermug:
ahm... i am not saying he should replace stern john because they are not the same kind of back to the goal players. however, what i am saying is you cannot have stern john, who is past his prime, and kenwyne jones, who is all talk and no results, on the same front line in the same game. dat is assinine. you need players like a glenn who can cause havoc on a defense and who can set up the other forward to score goals like a jason scotland, who happens to be the sharpest tnt forward in the world right now, when your all defensive, non creative, non controlling, no attacking midfield cannot do it.
lemme take you back the '06 world cup where stern john was rendered hapless and kenwyne jones was non existent and your boy mcfarlane could not make the team and roberts was probably even born yet and the only player who put the fear of god in the opposing defense was non other than you know who.
in the '07 gold cup roberts was the third or fourth best tnt player on the field. bossman, if your frontline players have the same non mobile skills like jones, john, and mcfarlane you cannot win the game.
comprende?
OK, valid point about your up front pair. i'll give you that one cause to have 2 stagnant players up front is a waste of time. but IMO we have better options than glenn currently. you keep talking about not going back in the past when yuh talking about stern but you going back in time when yuh talking about glenn...so ah not understanding that. Scotty and Roberts and even jaggy for me shud get a first bly on our foward line if we going on current form. but my point was u just cant discard stern. he will always have that goal scoring gift that alot of our strikers (mr. glenn) seem to lack. :beermug:
ok fordy, tell me who has the attacking ability to put the fear of god in d opposing defense. carlos edwards is an enigma. don't tell me daryl roberts, don't tell me anthony wolfe, or silvio spann, his father maybe, don't tell me mcfarlane, don't tell me whitley, don't tell me jorsling, tell me who in trinidad and tobago is on that world class level. don't tell me keon daniel, he is clueless and lazy. who fordy who.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Breds you must be talking bout ah differant glenn, BC in 2007 gold cup glenn was no where to be found!! he was injured and on crotches after knee surgery , not to mention black listed!
as for andre! please! the three best players in the Gold cup was trent noel, errol Mc farlene and daryl roberts. remember toussant miss a sitter that my daughter could've scored!
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If we had good mid-field, we would be saying otherwise about Stern. He is a striker. The mids and wings have to bring the ball at least just outside the area for him. Right now neither TT or his EPL club giving him good service, what all yuh expect. When Pele came to the Cosmos, he realize after one season, the team was pull stones. He used his influence to upgrade mid-field and defence. The rest was history.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Breds you must be talking bout ah differant glenn, BC in 2007 gold cup glenn was no where to be found!! he was injured and on crotches after knee surgery , not to mention black listed!
as for andre! please! the three best players in the Gold cup was trent noel, errol Mc farlene and daryl roberts. remember toussant miss a sitter that my daughter could've scored!
yo, breds, you must be reading my post under the influence of coffee. i never said glenn was in d '07 gold cup.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Breds you must be talking bout ah differant glenn, BC in 2007 gold cup glenn was no where to be found!! he was injured and on crotches after knee surgery , not to mention black listed!
as for andre! please! the three best players in the Gold cup was trent noel, errol Mc farlene and daryl roberts. remember toussant miss a sitter that my daughter could've scored!
yo, breds, you must be reading my post under the influence of coffee. i never said glenn was in d '07 gold cup.
No disrespect tuh you , but you need tuh write the thing properly if yuh don't want any missinterpretation.
your statement was , and i qoute " D most dangerous players during the ' 06 world cup and ' 07 gold cup from t&t was glenn and toussaint, respectively."
before you cleared it up i thought you meant glenn and tousant blah blah blah. ah get yuh drift now doh, but i still think toussant is a very ordinary player and so is glenn.
no need tuh debate , to each is own. i just happened to disagree wid yuh, i believe the 2 best strikers we have is the 2 men who got us passed bermuda in bermuda!
i don't think tuss and glenn are clutch players like stern and roberts. i woild even put gary glassgow before toussant.
PS: BTW, how many goals did toussant score for us in all ineternational competitions again??
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Breds you must be talking bout ah differant glenn, BC in 2007 gold cup glenn was no where to be found!! he was injured and on crotches after knee surgery , not to mention black listed!
as for andre! please! the three best players in the Gold cup was trent noel, errol Mc farlene and daryl roberts. remember toussant miss a sitter that my daughter could've scored!
yo, breds, you must be reading my post under the influence of coffee. i never said glenn was in d '07 gold cup.
No disrespect tuh you , but you need tuh write the thing properly if yuh don't want any missinterpretation.
your statement was , and i qoute " D most dangerous players during the ' 06 world cup and ' 07 gold cup from t&t was glenn and toussaint, respectively."
before you cleared it up i thought you meant glenn and tousant blah blah blah. ah get yuh drift now doh, but i still think toussant is a very ordinary player and so is glenn.
no need tuh debate , to each is own. i just happened to disagree wid yuh, i believe the 2 best strikers we have is the 2 men who got us passed bermuda in bermuda!
i don't think tuss and glenn are clutch players like stern and roberts. i woild even put gary glassgow before toussant.
PS: BTW, how many goals did toussant score for us in all ineternational competitions again??
no disrespect to you either my brother, but ...bermuda...compared to the wc...hmmmm......inter...rest...ting.
gary glasgow.......b4....tuss....as you want to call him......inter...rest....ting.
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Breds you must be talking bout ah differant glenn, BC in 2007 gold cup glenn was no where to be found!! he was injured and on crotches after knee surgery , not to mention black listed!
as for andre! please! the three best players in the Gold cup was trent noel, errol Mc farlene and daryl roberts. remember toussant miss a sitter that my daughter could've scored!
yo, breds, you must be reading my post under the influence of coffee. i never said glenn was in d '07 gold cup.
No disrespect tuh you , but you need tuh write the thing properly if yuh don't want any missinterpretation.
your statement was , and i qoute " D most dangerous players during the ' 06 world cup and ' 07 gold cup from t&t was glenn and toussaint, respectively."
before you cleared it up i thought you meant glenn and tousant blah blah blah. ah get yuh drift now doh, but i still think toussant is a very ordinary player and so is glenn.
no need tuh debate , to each is own. i just happened to disagree wid yuh, i believe the 2 best strikers we have is the 2 men who got us passed bermuda in bermuda!
i don't think tuss and glenn are clutch players like stern and roberts. i woild even put gary glassgow before toussant.
PS: BTW, how many goals did toussant score for us in all ineternational competitions again??
no disrespect to you either my brother, but ...bermuda...compared to the wc...hmmmm......inter...rest...ting.
gary glasgow.......b4....tuss....as you want to call him......inter...rest....ting.
awrite, i'll tell u wat. forget glenn, toussaint and dem. how about gally, sammy, warren, de leon, or maybe brenton de leon dat plays for south end, hell, how about spanner, steve david, carpette and linoleum. maybe we should let jackula and oliver gumps and dem play a position on d field. dis whole ting as far as i am concerned is a fiasco, while you and i and everybody else is distracted by d fiasco on the field, jackula is using d opportunity to get richer, maybe everybody should be really keeping one eye open to pay attention to wat ttff really doing behind d scenes. latas is really a smoke screen. you seeing it?.
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Deese, i rather talk football! if yuh know me you would realize the just in my first name don't stand for just as in i JUST dey, but rather justice! BC i believe justice is the back bone of freedom and peace omoungst the human family!
as for JW and the TTFF? every one on this board knows who jack warner is and what he gives and we tired! there's no way we ridding ourselves of warner, even though we fully aware that he's ah vampire on the football,
i think ppl here rather side step jack and support the troops. after all, jack warner come like ah mad dictator who will be here for a long while , and not nessesarily his person , but his philosophy. i think most here love the football and overs the i'll of JW.
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saywha...have some fackin respect
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Wat about a striker who can...ahm score goals...because that's what win games...not how fast you can run past a defender!! Cornell needs to work on finishing and his touch before you can start labeling him better than John. Stern getting older and the goals not coming as easy as they used to....i understand that...but if you want to make comparisons why dont you put cornell in stern place for the last world cup campaign and you tell me if glenn would have done wat stern did for us. you talk about forgetting d past....yuh cant brethren because if it wasnt for the same fella u want to discard jamaica would still be the only english speaking caribbean country to play in a world cup. im not saying stern needs to be a full time starter currently, based on form, but i wouldnt put glenn there either...based on form. Roberts and Scotty need a shot before glenn and andre (what a joke to try and talk about this fella with stren). shoot i would quicker put meh boy mcfarlane before andre!! at least we get goals from errol. but to outright discard stern is madness...hopefully he can come off the bench and give us some sort of goalscoring. i dont have the same faith in glenn currently..until he proves me wrong. :beermug:
ahm... i am not saying he should replace stern john because they are not the same kind of back to the goal players. however, what i am saying is you cannot have stern john, who is past his prime, and kenwyne jones, who is all talk and no results, on the same front line in the same game. dat is assinine. you need players like a glenn who can cause havoc on a defense and who can set up the other forward to score goals like a jason scotland, who happens to be the sharpest tnt forward in the world right now, when your all defensive, non creative, non controlling, no attacking midfield cannot do it.
lemme take you back the '06 world cup where stern john was rendered hapless and kenwyne jones was non existent and your boy mcfarlane could not make the team and roberts was probably even born yet and the only player who put the fear of god in the opposing defense was non other than you know who.
in the '07 gold cup roberts was the third or fourth best tnt player on the field. bossman, if your frontline players have the same non mobile skills like jones, john, and mcfarlane you cannot win the game.
comprende?
OK, valid point about your up front pair. i'll give you that one cause to have 2 stagnant players up front is a waste of time. but IMO we have better options than glenn currently. you keep talking about not going back in the past when yuh talking about stern but you going back in time when yuh talking about glenn...so ah not understanding that. Scotty and Roberts and even jaggy for me shud get a first bly on our foward line if we going on current form. but my point was u just cant discard stern. he will always have that goal scoring gift that alot of our strikers (mr. glenn) seem to lack. :beermug:
ok fordy, tell me who has the attacking ability to put the fear of god in d opposing defense. carlos edwards is an enigma. don't tell me daryl roberts, don't tell me anthony wolfe, or silvio spann, his father maybe, don't tell me mcfarlane, don't tell me whitley, don't tell me jorsling, tell me who in trinidad and tobago is on that world class level. don't tell me keon daniel, he is clueless and lazy. who fordy who.
Breds it's like you on a campaign tuh sell toussant and glenn or what ?? but let it be known like i ask before , how many goals toussant scored for our national team ?? and jah knows he had ample chances! even more chances than daryl roberts and mc farlene put together! cornell score 3 and was involved more than any striker in national colours thus far!
how many trials glenn had and blown?! how many chances toussant had and blown?! if they were that nifty as you say then they would be plying their trade some where in europe! but instead they playing for he PFL!
and FYI daryl roberts is a real class act! only if jack warner, pancho , corneal and latas would take their head out their arse and seek out the players with refine talent , just maybe we woulda never been in this predicment,
i know if beenhakker was still coaching T&T, fellas like whitley, avery john, daryl roberts and julius james would've been sure starters without a doubt! i still can't come tuh terms wid the mess that took place around the football for the past two yrs!
BTW no disrespect tuh them fellas glenn and toussant, but they have shown nothing special to write home about, toussant is just a plain ole labourer, and since the knee surgery glenn seemed to have lost it.
all in all IMO they have nothing special about them! they are just as ordinary as ordinary can be IMB!
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watch meh, to be honest with allyuh, i tired of stern john, kenwyne jones, carlos edwards, anthony wolfe, silvio spann, densil theobald, autis whitley, aklie edwards, keyeno thomas, and what could be. lemmeh take allyuh back for a second to the '06 world cup and d '07 gold cup.
d most dangerous player from tnt during dat '06 world cup was cornell glenn. period.
d most dangerous players from tnt duing d '07 gold cup was trent noel and andre toussaint. period.
it is time for the friendship ting and d wishing and hoping to end. if you not running for your club team then you are not game fit and you definitely should not be pretending in a wc qualifier.
dwight and birchall, in my opinion, are the only two exceptions to dat rule. we all know when the time comes for performers to perform, i know these two players will perform. period.
Eh andre toussant is an ordinary player, connell glenn decent but can't hold up a ball tuh save his life , he's @ best ah run @ the defence player, i'll give him that! but not @ all as versitile as the others!
just cool wid putting whitley name on yuh list fardder! >:( BC noel toussant and glenn together cannot tie whitleys jock strapp!! as for toussant , all i saw him do in the gold cup was miss an easy sitter that stern, KJ, carlos, whitley, and even kenyo woulda finish! noel is the only one i would say deserves a chance BC he had a decent coupple of yrs!
fadder, hear meh because yuh didn't hear d first time. d most dangerous player during the '06 world cup and '07 gold cup from tnt was glenn and toussaint, respectively. yuh can't change dat. all them other players you call they should still be carrying glenn jock strap. all them players you fighting for dey couldn't run at a defense if their lives depended on it. aye, jacko, players like ronaldo, messi, ronaldo, rooney, berbatov, henry, eto'o, etc., etc. are all forwards that actually run at the defense. john and jones can't. i would rather have forwards on my team that can run at the defense. see toussaint.
Wat about a striker who can...ahm score goals...because that's what win games...not how fast you can run past a defender!! Cornell needs to work on finishing and his touch before you can start labeling him better than John. Stern getting older and the goals not coming as easy as they used to....i understand that...but if you want to make comparisons why dont you put cornell in stern place for the last world cup campaign and you tell me if glenn would have done wat stern did for us. you talk about forgetting d past....yuh cant brethren because if it wasnt for the same fella u want to discard jamaica would still be the only english speaking caribbean country to play in a world cup. im not saying stern needs to be a full time starter currently, based on form, but i wouldnt put glenn there either...based on form. Roberts and Scotty need a shot before glenn and andre (what a joke to try and talk about this fella with stren). shoot i would quicker put meh boy mcfarlane before andre!! at least we get goals from errol. but to outright discard stern is madness...hopefully he can come off the bench and give us some sort of goalscoring. i dont have the same faith in glenn currently..until he proves me wrong. :beermug:
ahm... i am not saying he should replace stern john because they are not the same kind of back to the goal players. however, what i am saying is you cannot have stern john, who is past his prime, and kenwyne jones, who is all talk and no results, on the same front line in the same game. dat is assinine. you need players like a glenn who can cause havoc on a defense and who can set up the other forward to score goals like a jason scotland, who happens to be the sharpest tnt forward in the world right now, when your all defensive, non creative, non controlling, no attacking midfield cannot do it.
lemme take you back the '06 world cup where stern john was rendered hapless and kenwyne jones was non existent and your boy mcfarlane could not make the team and roberts was probably even born yet and the only player who put the fear of god in the opposing defense was non other than you know who.
in the '07 gold cup roberts was the third or fourth best tnt player on the field. bossman, if your frontline players have the same non mobile skills like jones, john, and mcfarlane you cannot win the game.
comprende?
OK, valid point about your up front pair. i'll give you that one cause to have 2 stagnant players up front is a waste of time. but IMO we have better options than glenn currently. you keep talking about not going back in the past when yuh talking about stern but you going back in time when yuh talking about glenn...so ah not understanding that. Scotty and Roberts and even jaggy for me shud get a first bly on our foward line if we going on current form. but my point was u just cant discard stern. he will always have that goal scoring gift that alot of our strikers (mr. glenn) seem to lack. :beermug:
ok fordy, tell me who has the attacking ability to put the fear of god in d opposing defense. carlos edwards is an enigma. don't tell me daryl roberts, don't tell me anthony wolfe, or silvio spann, his father maybe, don't tell me mcfarlane, don't tell me whitley, don't tell me jorsling, tell me who in trinidad and tobago is on that world class level. don't tell me keon daniel, he is clueless and lazy. who fordy who.
Breds it's like you on a campaign tuh sell toussant and glenn or what ?? but let it be known like i ask before , how many goals toussant scored for our national team ?? and jah knows he had ample chances! even more chances than daryl roberts and mc farlene put together! cornell score 3 and was involved more than any striker in national colours thus far!
how many trials glenn had and blown?! how many chances toussant had and blown?! if they were that nifty as you say then they would be plying their trade some where in europe! but instead they playing for he PFL!
and FYI daryl roberts is a real class act! only if jack warner, pancho , corneal and latas would take their head out their arse and seek out the players with refine talent , just maybe we woulda never been in this predicment,
i know if beenhakker was still coaching T&T, fellas like whitley, avery john, daryl roberts and julius james would've been sure starters without a doubt! i still can't come tuh terms wid the mess that took place around the football for the past two yrs!
BTW no disrespect tuh them fellas glenn and toussant, but they have shown nothing special to write home about, toussant is just a plain ole labourer, and since the knee surgery glenn seemed to have lost it.
all in all IMO they have nothing special about them! they are just as ordinary as ordinary can be IMB!
breddos, yu ask a lot of questions there. yes, to answer your first question, i am campaigning for glenn, a world class player, my evidence to back that up is the '06 world cup, and toussaint, u put him in the right system and position to create havoc and i think he will. to answer your second question i have to answer it with another question. if stern john is the only player on the team with over 60 goals and nobody else even coming close to that why are they on the team???? see carlos edwards, kenwyne jones, whitley, roberts, samuel, wolfe, spann, etc., etc., etc. and breddos u seem to be harpin on john and whitley, unfortunately for you, you can't have 5 john like players and 5 whitley like players on the team, you won't win. see it???? by d by whitley couldn't make the team he tried out for out in vietnam, tell me what happened there boss.
breds doh get mix up. i campaigning for hughton hector, keeron benito, hayden tinto, attulah guerra, marcano, oliver, noel, andre boucard, i hear dis boy coach and dem say he has a silky touch on the ball and he is a hard working player, peltier, hyland, elton john, a game fit judah hernandez, kevon neaves, ryan stewart, dominic adams, dale saunders, d man who shutdown shalre joseph, although he is on the wrong side of 30, and on and on, my bredder.
my point in all dis is if you goin to change d coach and d tech staff and d system too, then you have to look at the players you have or don't have and make your changes so you can get the right fit for your team and your system to be successful. d same old heads is not going to cut it.
i have a question for you. did you know coming out of defense force that scotland would be dis dangerous???
p.s. he is thriving in a system that works for him and the team. it's called coaching.
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The King on to something- The man speaking the truth. I feel the same way. Talk from we big boys but no action. With the names on our roster we should be right up there with the USA. We have become worriers rather than Warriors.
injun, here what, stern was nice back in the days, don't get me wrong, he did a lot for tnt football but now tnt football has to be real. you have to be in game shape to get a run and when you get that chance you have to come up with more than just lip service, partner, you have to produce. yeah, he is a free agent, that should tell you a lot.
now, lemme address something before i go. we are not better that usa, mexico, honduras, costa rica, and el salvador because we have failed miserably over the years to prepare and if you fail to prepare you should prepare to fail. people saying that glenn is a run at a defense player and that he can't carry other people's jock strap. dese people joking.
i went back in time a little bit and came up with this:
Kelvin Barclay, Russell Tesheira (Raymond Moraldo 81st), Selwyn Murren, Selris Figaro, Lawrence Rondon, Everald Cummings, Dennis Morgan, Anthony Douglas, Steve David, Steve Kahn (Sydney Augustine 74th), Warren Archibald, Leroy De Leon, Leon Carpette, Leroy Spann, Noel Sammy Lewellyn, Wilfred Cave, Kendall Walkes.
Everald Cummings - run at a defense player
Steve David - one of the best power/center forwards to pass through tnt
Warren Archibald - probably the most dangerous run at a defense player to ever pass through tnt
Leroy De Leon - all world midfielder and run at a defense player
Leon Carpette - run at a defense player
Leroy Spann - run at a defense player
Noel Sammy Lewellyn - another one of those very dangerous and cunning run at a defense player
Kendall Walkes - run at a defense player.
enough said.
You just talking ah pack ah facking shit from yuh fuss post on this thread ...Since yuh went back in time why yuh din put #14 name dey ,he score more goal for TnT with he left foot alone than anyone ah dem names above ,and yuh doh have tuh go back so far tuh see dat he ,unlike any ah dem ( doh mind dey rob we bad in Haiti in 74 ) took his country tuh we only WC and he eh done yet .
Imps like you just like yuh come here and bump yuh facking lip like yuh is some expert on football ...Cornell Glenn ??? His claim tuh fame is beating Ashley Cole ..ONE FACKING TIME and what happen after he beat him ???..oh and he had ah shot on goal after ah brillant past from #14 ,get yuh facts straight becuz when yuh start comparing Cornell tuh #14 yuh exposing yuh self ah ah gigantic kakahole or in you case ah deesegantic kakahole ....69 and counting, no other footballer in TnT come close ......Cornell Glenn ??? ???...Steupppssssss
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The King on to something- The man speaking the truth. I feel the same way. Talk from we big boys but no action. With the names on our roster we should be right up there with the USA. We have become worriers rather than Warriors.
injun, here what, stern was nice back in the days, don't get me wrong, he did a lot for tnt football but now tnt football has to be real. you have to be in game shape to get a run and when you get that chance you have to come up with more than just lip service, partner, you have to produce. yeah, he is a free agent, that should tell you a lot.
now, lemme address something before i go. we are not better that usa, mexico, honduras, costa rica, and el salvador because we have failed miserably over the years to prepare and if you fail to prepare you should prepare to fail. people saying that glenn is a run at a defense player and that he can't carry other people's jock strap. dese people joking.
i went back in time a little bit and came up with this:
Kelvin Barclay, Russell Tesheira (Raymond Moraldo 81st), Selwyn Murren, Selris Figaro, Lawrence Rondon, Everald Cummings, Dennis Morgan, Anthony Douglas, Steve David, Steve Kahn (Sydney Augustine 74th), Warren Archibald, Leroy De Leon, Leon Carpette, Leroy Spann, Noel Sammy Lewellyn, Wilfred Cave, Kendall Walkes.
Everald Cummings - run at a defense player
Steve David - one of the best power/center forwards to pass through tnt
Warren Archibald - probably the most dangerous run at a defense player to ever pass through tnt
Leroy De Leon - all world midfielder and run at a defense player
Leon Carpette - run at a defense player
Leroy Spann - run at a defense player
Noel Sammy Lewellyn - another one of those very dangerous and cunning run at a defense player
Kendall Walkes - run at a defense player.
enough said.
You just talking ah pack ah facking shit from yuh fuss post on this thread ...Since yuh went back in time why yuh din put #14 name dey ,he score more goal for TnT with he left foot alone than anyone ah dem names above ,and yuh doh have tuh go back so far tuh see dat he ,unlike any ah dem ( doh mind dey rob we bad in Haiti in 74 ) took his country tuh we only WC and he eh done yet .
Imps like you just like yuh come here and bump yuh facking lip like yuh is some expert on football ...Cornell Glenn ??? His claim tuh fame is beating Ashley Cole ..ONE FACKING TIME and what happen after he beat him ???..oh and he had ah shot on goal after ah brillant past from #14 ,get yuh facts straight becuz when yuh start comparing Cornell tuh #14 yuh exposing yuh self ah ah gigantic kakahole or in you case ah deesegantic kakahole ....69 and counting, no other footballer in TnT come close ......Cornell Glenn ??? ???...Steupppssssss
aye kakahole, u seem like a violently intelligently fella, so answer this question. if you have nuts on your chin what do you have????
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The King on to something- The man speaking the truth. I feel the same way. Talk from we big boys but no action. With the names on our roster we should be right up there with the USA. We have become worriers rather than Warriors.
injun, here what, stern was nice back in the days, don't get me wrong, he did a lot for tnt football but now tnt football has to be real. you have to be in game shape to get a run and when you get that chance you have to come up with more than just lip service, partner, you have to produce. yeah, he is a free agent, that should tell you a lot.
now, lemme address something before i go. we are not better that usa, mexico, honduras, costa rica, and el salvador because we have failed miserably over the years to prepare and if you fail to prepare you should prepare to fail. people saying that glenn is a run at a defense player and that he can't carry other people's jock strap. dese people joking.
i went back in time a little bit and came up with this:
Kelvin Barclay, Russell Tesheira (Raymond Moraldo 81st), Selwyn Murren, Selris Figaro, Lawrence Rondon, Everald Cummings, Dennis Morgan, Anthony Douglas, Steve David, Steve Kahn (Sydney Augustine 74th), Warren Archibald, Leroy De Leon, Leon Carpette, Leroy Spann, Noel Sammy Lewellyn, Wilfred Cave, Kendall Walkes.
Everald Cummings - run at a defense player
Steve David - one of the best power/center forwards to pass through tnt
Warren Archibald - probably the most dangerous run at a defense player to ever pass through tnt
Leroy De Leon - all world midfielder and run at a defense player
Leon Carpette - run at a defense player
Leroy Spann - run at a defense player
Noel Sammy Lewellyn - another one of those very dangerous and cunning run at a defense player
Kendall Walkes - run at a defense player.
enough said.
You just talking ah pack ah facking shit from yuh fuss post on this thread ...Since yuh went back in time why yuh din put #14 name dey ,he score more goal for TnT with he left foot alone than anyone ah dem names above ,and yuh doh have tuh go back so far tuh see dat he ,unlike any ah dem ( doh mind dey rob we bad in Haiti in 74 ) took his country tuh we only WC and he eh done yet .
Imps like you just like yuh come here and bump yuh facking lip like yuh is some expert on football ...Cornell Glenn ??? His claim tuh fame is beating Ashley Cole ..ONE FACKING TIME and what happen after he beat him ???..oh and he had ah shot on goal after ah brillant past from #14 ,get yuh facts straight becuz when yuh start comparing Cornell tuh #14 yuh exposing yuh self ah ah gigantic kakahole or in you case ah deesegantic kakahole ....69 and counting, no other footballer in TnT come close ......Cornell Glenn ??? ???...Steupppssssss
aye kakahole, u seem like a violently intelligently fella, so answer this question. if you have nuts on your chin what do you have????
Dah one easy ..Ah facking arsehole calling herself king deese ...yuh have any more intelligent questions :devil: :devil:
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
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Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
I agree with you. But as of right now, KJ can only get better and Stern can only get worse.
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So any news on any possible destinations for STERN JOHN?
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
He had 20 goals last season. One bad season mean is de end? If Scotty only score 5 next season it over for him too? Or you'll say he had a bad season?
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Fellas as much as we does hit the man hard when he play for we, remember that football is he bread and butter, let's hope he get a solid contract. He will be a great asset to any team :beermug:
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
Completely agree with that quote. The problem with Stern is most teams he played for never truely believed in him. Most sides he played for after Forest, signed him as a stop-gap measure. I think his total transfer fees amount to less than 3 million and that is crap for a player with the amount of teams he has played for. He has never actually had an extended run with any team he played for as most of his sides lost faith after less than a season. His stint at Forest was curtailed by injury and the clubs Financial difficulty, Birmingham was continually buying strikers so obiviously had no real faith in him....he was always in and out the side. Coventry tried to turn him into a British style targetman which was an obivious success as they seemed to send him on loan every few months, Sunderland bought him as a temporary extra striking option....nothing more and Southampton took him as he was offered as a free make-weight and they couldn't spend the Kenwyne money. All his loan sides were doing a try before you buy thing but he never really produced for any of them.
I use Zamora as a case in point, that fella tear-up at Brighton but since he went the Premiership what has he done? Yet he has managed to stay there way longer than Stern, getting start after start.....I think Zamora pushin 200 appearances in the Premiership while John done something like 50 and not all of them starts. Why? Zamora fits the picture of what kind of effort UK managers want from a striker wether they score or not and Stern dosen't .....simple. It's a shame nobody had more belief in him.....heck, many of our own Fans don't and haven't for many years.
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So any news on any possible destinations for STERN JOHN?
His agent is in talks with Keane with Ipswich ,but nutten yet .
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So any news on any possible destinations for STERN JOHN?
His agent is in talks with Keane with Ipswich ,but nutten yet .
OK cool, i hope he gets someting solid!
ah love it!!
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Yeah i was thinking he would have a good chance with Keane as he on a free and Keane has shown that he like to work with people he work with before and usually gets burned from unknowns that he sign.
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
Perhaps it is indeed garbage but I am dealing with reality and not if's. In any event, ask yourself why Stern did not have the opportunity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ. Share de answer with us please!
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
He had 20 goals last season. One bad season mean is de end? If Scotty only score 5 next season it over for him too? Or you'll say he had a bad season?
Guess we will have to wait and see which team and in which division picks him up, eh. While I am not judging him on one bad season, I hope you are correct. Btw, I am judging him on what I have seen of him over the years to date and I am still saying that I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did in his career. He turned out to be simply a journeyman.
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
Completely agree with that quote. The problem with Stern is most teams he played for never truely believed in him. Most sides he played for after Forest, signed him as a stop-gap measure. I think his total transfer fees amount to less than 3 million and that is crap for a player with the amount of teams he has played for. He has never actually had an extended run with any team he played for as most of his sides lost faith after less than a season. His stint at Forest was curtailed by injury and the clubs Financial difficulty, Birmingham was continually buying strikers so obiviously had no real faith in him....he was always in and out the side. Coventry tried to turn him into a British style targetman which was an obivious success as they seemed to send him on loan every few months, Sunderland bought him as a temporary extra striking option....nothing more and Southampton took him as he was offered as a free make-weight and they couldn't spend the Kenwyne money. All his loan sides were doing a try before you buy thing but he never really produced for any of them.
I use Zamora as a case in point, that fella tear-up at Brighton but since he went the Premiership what has he done? Yet he has managed to stay there way longer than Stern, getting start after start.....I think Zamora pushin 200 appearances in the Premiership while John done something like 50 and not all of them starts. Why? Zamora fits the picture of what kind of effort UK managers want from a striker wether they score or not and Stern dosen't .....simple. It's a shame nobody had more belief in him.....heck, many of our own Fans don't and haven't for many years.
You all not offering any argument to support Stern here. It easy to understand why he was/is always on the move, but all what you all state is against the man. Come on.
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You all not offering any argument to support Stern here. It easy to understand why he was/is always on the move, but all what you all state is against the man. Come on.
Support Him....eh? what you talking about? I didn't post to support him as a player, I was merely agreeing with Just Cools statement as I also think Stern would have scored more than KJ (not the rest of the planet!) if he had been given the same oppertunities to play in the Premiership. I was demonstrating by discussing his past transfers and Zamora that the reason he hasn't is due to him on many occasions being a victim of circumstance & perception. I'm not saying he is the best player on the planet or anything.
The 'big up' Stern thread is somewhere else, I think.
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You all not offering any argument to support Stern here. It easy to understand why he was/is always on the move, but all what you all state is against the man. Come on.
Support Him....eh? what you talking about? I didn't post to support him as a player, I was merely agreeing with Just Cools statement as I also think Stern would have scored more than KJ (not the rest of the planet!) if he had been given the same oppertunities to play in the Premiership. I was demonstrating by discussing his past transfers and Zamora that the reason he hasn't is due to him on many occasions being a victim of circumstance & perception. I'm not saying he is the best player on the planet or anything.
The 'big up' Stern thread is somewhere else, I think.
That's what I am saying you agreeing with what JC said. There are reasons why he was always on the move. Like you said "him being a victim of perception."
I not disputing ability here. Just saying that there is a reason why he never settled.
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Well he in last chance saloon now...at least in England. Whoever he sign up for, he better put regular sweat ahead of "glam team", "chance for promotion" or "big money". This move is most likely his last chance to prove his football prowess to all his doubters.
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Stern have absolutely nutten tuh prove tuh anyone ,he has score almost 100 goals,if not 100 already,since his arrival in England and anyone still looking for proof on his 'football prowness ' come like de jews still waiting on de Messiah .
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The minute you start to believe that, is the minute your game starts to deteriorate. That is why fergie is such a good coach cause u still here Giggs and Scholes talking about retaining that hunger to keep improving and to win more trophies. When u lose that, you out of Old Trafford.
But with Keane in his ear, that wouldn't happen so i really hope he get a chance to go there. He will do well cause Keane will let him start plus that team will be in the hunt for promotion. And once he score next season, he will get his chance in the Premier League under keane, next to some big name, big money striker probably.
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
Completely agree with that quote. The problem with Stern is most teams he played for never truely believed in him.
If you completely agree with that quote, why do you think that most teams he played for never truely believed in him???
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actually at his peak..his international commitments saw him lose favour in birmingham..not to mention bruce had brought in bigger name players who supposedly had to start in front of him in the case of dugarry and forsell...since then he's been in and out of teams..
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stern john is a free agent because he didn't prove anything. he sits on the bench because he did not feel he should prove anything and this is why he is where he is right now. dem coaches can't all be stupid and dey doh really care about john scoring 60 something goals for his country if he can't score 1 for their team. capeche?...
i don't know about the football allyuh thinking about but the football i know, you have to prove yourself everytime you step on dat field or at least try because their are other players behind you who want to prove that they belong and you just in the way of their dreams and aspirations. stern, prove yourself or step aside.
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stern john is a free agent because he didn't prove anything. he sits on the bench because he did not feel he should prove anything and this is why he is where he is right now. dem coaches can't all be stupid and dey doh really care about john scoring 60 something goals for his country if he can't score 1 for their team. capeche?...
i don't know about the football allyuh thinking about but the football i know, you have to prove yourself everytime you step on dat field or at least try because their are other players behind you who want to prove that they belong and you just in the way of their dreams and aspirations. stern, prove yourself or step aside.
Yuh making sense!
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
Completely agree with that quote. The problem with Stern is most teams he played for never truely believed in him.
If you completely agree with that quote, why do you think that most teams he played for never truely believed in him???
Eh Rodney?
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dais sense he making ??...dais sense ???
who save saints c#nts last year???...how keep them dey ???
and before yuh come wit yuh "da was last year " shit
follow de story...de dutchman poorvieliet..( or someting so..poorfella)...came wit ah "lets expose de youths"..
then de club come wit ah " wage bill cut "...send stern on loan...
and of course all of allyuh tink it easy to pick up and go to de next club and say " OK...where is the goal ???"
setta ah fu#kin c#nts
he is a free agent because da da da
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stern john is a free agent because he didn't prove anything. he sits on the bench because he did not feel he should prove anything and this is why he is where he is right now. dem coaches can't all be stupid and dey doh really care about john scoring 60 something goals for his country if he can't score 1 for their team. capeche?...
i don't know about the football allyuh thinking about but the football i know, you have to prove yourself everytime you step on dat field or at least try because their are other players behind you who want to prove that they belong and you just in the way of their dreams and aspirations. stern, prove yourself or step aside.
Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
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stern john is a free agent because he didn't prove anything. he sits on the bench because he did not feel he should prove anything and this is why he is where he is right now. dem coaches can't all be stupid and dey doh really care about john scoring 60 something goals for his country if he can't score 1 for their team. capeche?...
i don't know about the football allyuh thinking about but the football i know, you have to prove yourself everytime you step on dat field or at least try because their are other players behind you who want to prove that they belong and you just in the way of their dreams and aspirations. stern, prove yourself or step aside.
Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
it look like dem coaches and dem finally realize dat stern have two left foot.
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stern john is a free agent because he didn't prove anything. he sits on the bench because he did not feel he should prove anything and this is why he is where he is right now. dem coaches can't all be stupid and dey doh really care about john scoring 60 something goals for his country if he can't score 1 for their team. capeche?...
i don't know about the football allyuh thinking about but the football i know, you have to prove yourself everytime you step on dat field or at least try because their are other players behind you who want to prove that they belong and you just in the way of their dreams and aspirations. stern, prove yourself or step aside.
Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
bee...atch.....
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stern john is a free agent because he didn't prove anything. he sits on the bench because he did not feel he should prove anything and this is why he is where he is right now. dem coaches can't all be stupid and dey doh really care about john scoring 60 something goals for his country if he can't score 1 for their team. capeche?...
i don't know about the football allyuh thinking about but the football i know, you have to prove yourself everytime you step on dat field or at least try because their are other players behind you who want to prove that they belong and you just in the way of their dreams and aspirations. stern, prove yourself or step aside.
Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
Okay, Okay, I take it back! UnFack you!
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I beilieve that Stern is at the end of his line. Impressive career, although I had anticipated that he would have achieved a higher level than he did. He flattered, only to deceive.
Garbage!!! if stern had the opportinity tuh be in the prem as long as KJ and got the same amount of starts , i'm sure he would've scored more goals than KJ no doubt!
and another thing , i rate daryl roberts and stern john over KJ and scotty any day of the week!
Completely agree with that quote. The problem with Stern is most teams he played for never truely believed in him.
If you completely agree with that quote, why do you think that most teams he played for never truely believed in him???
Eh Rodney?
I explained why....what yuh talkin about? The post showing Gary Johnson's comments on why Stern's Bristol move did'nt work sum up what I was saying, read that if yuh cyah bother reading my actual post.
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Why Stern doh try he hand in Mainland Europe boy . I sure he could get a decent sweat somewhere like Belgium .. What about Middle east?Now is time for Stern to enjoy his football and get the final set ah dollars in. As frustrating as Stern is sometimes , the man have a TRACK record that many wish they had. And mark my words , Stern will have a big part to play in the WCQ , even though men ( me included) will be cussing him for 85 of the 90 mins and then have to eat their words when he SCORE.
Respect Stern !
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The minute you start to believe that, is the minute your game starts to deteriorate. That is why fergie is such a good coach cause u still here Giggs and Scholes talking about retaining that hunger to keep improving and to win more trophies. When u lose that, you out of Old Trafford.
But with Keane in his ear, that wouldn't happen so i really hope he get a chance to go there. He will do well cause Keane will let him start plus that team will be in the hunt for promotion. And once he score next season, he will get his chance in the Premier League under keane, next to some big name, big money striker probably.
I hope he gets through with Keane and gets a chance to play. Do they still have that Mexican youth who played at Barca? what a concacaf connection Keane will have if thats the case!!! problems during world cup qualifiers though! Stern boy best ah luck and we STILL need d goals for the T&T team! :beermug:
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Why Stern doh try he hand in Mainland Europe boy . I sure he could get a decent sweat somewhere like Belgium .. What about Middle east?Now is time for Stern to enjoy his football and get the final set ah dollars in. As frustrating as Stern is sometimes , the man have a TRACK record that many wish they had. And mark my words , Stern will have a big part to play in the WCQ , even though men ( me included) will be cussing him for 85 of the 90 mins and then have to eat their words when he SCORE.
Respect Stern !
He might be vacationing in Dubai in de off season and he play there ahready ,so who knows if de paper right (and it always is in Dubai) he might sign dey .
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So any news on any possible destinations for STERN JOHN?
from soccer365.com
A local English daily reports that Toronto FC could rival Columbus for Southampton's Trinidad & Tobago star Stern John when he is ready to return to Major League Soccer...
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Why Stern doh try he hand in Mainland Europe boy . I sure he could get a decent sweat somewhere like Belgium .. What about Middle east?Now is time for Stern to enjoy his football and get the final set ah dollars in. As frustrating as Stern is sometimes , the man have a TRACK record that many wish they had. And mark my words , Stern will have a big part to play in the WCQ , even though men ( me included) will be cussing him for 85 of the 90 mins and then have to eat their words when he SCORE.
Respect Stern !
He might be vacationing in Dubai in de off season and he play there ahready ,so who knows if de paper right (and it always is in Dubai) he might sign dey .
That would actaully be a good move . he already made his name in the US , whats the point in going back there ...
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he already made his name in the US , whats the point in going back there ...
Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name...
And they're always glad you came...
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he already made his name in the US , whats the point in going back there ...
Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name...
And they're always glad you came...
good one lol
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Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Berris yuh flikkin priceless oui!! :rotfl:
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he already made his name in the US , whats the point in going back there ...
Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name...
And they're always glad you came...
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Cheers!!.......lol
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Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Berris yuh flikkin priceless oui!! :rotfl:
Aye suppose berris is really Stern John and berris is his 'clark kent' alter ego? Athough Clark never use to cuss so :rotfl:
Anyway Stern going and carry we South Africa , watch and see.
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Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Berris yuh flikkin priceless oui!! :rotfl:
Aye suppose berris is really Stern John and berris is his 'clark kent' alter ego? Athough Clark never use to cuss so :rotfl:
Anyway Stern going and carry we South Africa , watch and see.
Well he wud have tuh get over ah bad back fuss. He slightly damage his back in training yesterday and it giving him some problems right now ,hopefully he can recover from this .
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Keep it up arsehole yuh showing yuh is even ah bigger cont than we first tort . 100 goals in de english leagues, 69 in international but he have tuh prove himself tuh facking pr!cks like you ? No he proves it tuh those that matter ,like de coaches and dais why he has been playing for so long in and will continue tuh play ,yuh deesegantic facking hen ,yuh shud change yuh name tuh Queen sleeze ,yuh facking imps.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Berris yuh flikkin priceless oui!! :rotfl:
Aye suppose berris is really Stern John and berris is his 'clark kent' alter ego? Athough Clark never use to cuss so :rotfl:
Anyway Stern going and carry we South Africa , watch and see.
Well he wud have tuh get over ah bad back fuss. He slightly damage his back in training yesterday and it giving him some problems right now ,hopefully he can recover from this .
Well that would explain why the person who went to watch practice say he looked terrible. Hope he recovers soon, we still need his abilities
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
Last 5 years? Last year he scored 20 goals. The year before that, he was mostly a sub for Sunderland and had the most goals per minutes played at the club. I didn't really follow him too much at Coventry, but 1 goal every 3 games at Championship level is far from shithound form. So which shithound club performances we talking about besides Bristol and 7 games at Derby?
No Trini blinkers here, because me eh even really a fan. I just think some people's attitudes towards him are cruelly unfair. I'd say THEY are the ones wearing biased blinkers.
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
Umm...the majority of ppl criticise Stern here, what board u is be on? Why you think Berris so versed in the art of internet cussing ! ;D
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
Yo Christiano , nobody say the man is the same player as when he left Nottingham . He had a bad injury ( knee i think) remember ? So he couldnt inflict the Stern Turn on them defenders again . But the fact that the man last so long in the game after losing one of his biggest assets is sure sign of a class player . And he had 20 goals last year .
So show some respect nuh. because of him you get to see Trinidad play in Germany AND the reason we still in the qualifiers in the first place. Steups. Where allyuh men does come out from boy ?
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
Last 5 years? Last year he scored 20 goals. The year before that, he was mostly a sub for Sunderland and had the most goals per minutes played at the club. I didn't really follow him too much at Coventry, but 1 goal every 3 games at Championship level is far from shithound form. So which shithound club performances we talking about besides Bristol and 7 games at Derby?
No Trini blinkers here, because me eh even really a fan. I just think some people's attitudes towards him are cruelly unfair. I'd say THEY are the ones wearing biased blinkers.
cosign this particularly the bolded part..that's one of the main reason i try to defend stern so often bcuz the majority of anti-stern critics ALWAYS omit or remove whatever good he's done in recent past..even the bristol coach said that stern seemed to be a good bet due to his games to goals ratio in championship..sigh..
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
Learn de game b4 yuh come here and make ah big arse of yuh self nah ...OOOPS!! to late ,my bad .Ppl like you have axe tuh grind .The only true assessment of #14 is the fact that he took Birmingham (de team he played for AFTER N'ham) to the prems ,ask Steve Bruce .He then led Coventry in goal scoring for 3 yrs .Somehow he find time tuh take TnT tuh WE first WC ,while scoring goals to help send S'land tuh de prems .Wey imps like you does come out from me eh know but I sure is some deep shithole dat eh have no TV or radio you must be never even read ah facking news paper with de amount ah shit yuh post above ...you cud read ?
''under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere ''
With dis statement alone yuh hang yuhself and show me yuh is eh have ah clue becuz AFTER leaving N'ham he score bout sixty sumtin goals for all de other teams he has played for, ah cud be wrong it cud be more ,go n check it yuh could count .What I want tuh know is if yuh born ah dunce or is something dat does practice ,becuz yuh have it dong cold ,buh spare we de 'TRINI blinkers' talk nah becuz yuh sounding more and more chupid .
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If Stern was not a Trinidadian, everyone here will be calling him a shithound like they call other club players for his club performances over the last 5 years !
Stern has not been the same player since he left Nottinham. He has been with numerous sides under numerous coaches and never got a decent sweat nowhere . All those coaches can be wrong can they ?
Why dont you guys give a true assessment of stern performances without TRINI blinkers on ?
You doh know one ass about Stern career!
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Stern John can take it or leave it
crewonespot.blogspot.com
According to Shawn Mitchell's blog (http://blog.dispatch.com/crew/2009/06/offday_musings.shtml):
Former Crew striker Stern John recently expressed interest in returning to Columbus at some point in his career although he indicated last month that he'd like to stay in England for another season.
He was in town last week but did not meet with Crew officials. He reportedly was asking some questions about the club and getting a read on what it might be like to play for Robert Warzycha.
John, a free agent, spent the last 10 years in England after scoring a whopping 44 goals in 55 games for the Crew in 1998 and '99. He would likely command a much higher salary than the Crew is currently able to offer although off-loading another six-figure salary might help open enough cap space for the 32-year-old John.
The Crew is on the hunt for a more prolific scorer but it appears a trade of current striker Alejandro Moreno ($137,000) is unlikely.
"We're not going to move (Moreno). He is too important to the team and the locker room," a team source said today.
My thoughts:
Stern should be falling over himself to sign a $175,000 dollar contract for four months of soccer with the Crew and to be getting services from Schelotto.
It's probably the best option he has at reviving his career, as I doubt any midfield general type in the Championship is anywhere near Schelotto's level. Or could give John opportunities like Schelotto.
If I was McCullers, I would say, "we'll talk about a contract increase next year, once you prove that you can score goals again."
John has only scored 2 goals in 24 appearances with Bristol City in the last two seasons. Bristol City is a middle of the table Championship side that the Crew could probably compete against.
If Stern is too slow on the uptake to realize that now is his only opportunity to get back with the Crew, then that's his problem. The Crew have said, "hey we are looking for an attacker who can score goals before CONCACAF." Hello? They might already have an attacker John by the time you finish up one more year in England.
It's not like the Crew are going to wait for John to say, "okay, here I am, I'm ready!" Then cut three or four players to make salary room. This is a different MLS then 98 and 99, and John isn't the commodity he used to be.
If John isn't willing to prove himself now for a lesser salary. I would just go the Ekpo route($118,000) and sign a young Ghana striker(U-23 type) for the $175,000. I think we can all agree(I mean mostly agree as some Crew fans have trouble recognizing talent) that Ekpo has been worth it.
I'm also glad they are holding onto Moreno. A stab at John or someone else may be worth Noonan, who is a bench player. But, not both Noonan and Moreno, no way.
I say if John was enthusiastic about coming to the Crew now for that salary, then okay, let's think about it. But, his recent production doesn't merit the Crew taking a big risk on him. They would be better off perhaps just looking for a younger striker.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/04/sternjohn460.jpg)
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Merge dis nah rasta :D
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I hope he takes it and run.... this is a good opporunity.
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Stern John can take it or leave it
crewonespot.blogspot.com
According to Shawn Mitchell's blog (http://blog.dispatch.com/crew/2009/06/offday_musings.shtml):
Former Crew striker Stern John recently expressed interest in returning to Columbus at some point in his career although he indicated last month that he'd like to stay in England for another season.
He was in town last week but did not meet with Crew officials. He reportedly was asking some questions about the club and getting a read on what it might be like to play for Robert Warzycha.
John, a free agent, spent the last 10 years in England after scoring a whopping 44 goals in 55 games for the Crew in 1998 and '99. He would likely command a much higher salary than the Crew is currently able to offer although off-loading another six-figure salary might help open enough cap space for the 32-year-old John.
The Crew is on the hunt for a more prolific scorer but it appears a trade of current striker Alejandro Moreno ($137,000) is unlikely.
"We're not going to move (Moreno). He is too important to the team and the locker room," a team source said today.
My thoughts:
Stern should be falling over himself to sign a $175,000 dollar contract for four months of soccer with the Crew and to be getting services from Schelotto.
It's probably the best option he has at reviving his career, as I doubt any midfield general type in the Championship is anywhere near Schelotto's level. Or could give John opportunities like Schelotto.
If I was McCullers, I would say, "we'll talk about a contract increase next year, once you prove that you can score goals again."
John has only scored 2 goals in 24 appearances with Bristol City in the last two seasons. Bristol City is a middle of the table Championship side that the Crew could probably compete against.
If Stern is too slow on the uptake to realize that now is his only opportunity to get back with the Crew, then that's his problem. The Crew have said, "hey we are looking for an attacker who can score goals before CONCACAF." Hello? They might already have an attacker John by the time you finish up one more year in England.
It's not like the Crew are going to wait for John to say, "okay, here I am, I'm ready!" Then cut three or four players to make salary room. This is a different MLS then 98 and 99, and John isn't the commodity he used to be.
If John isn't willing to prove himself now for a lesser salary. I would just go the Ekpo route($118,000) and sign a young Ghana striker(U-23 type) for the $175,000. I think we can all agree(I mean mostly agree as some Crew fans have trouble recognizing talent) that Ekpo has been worth it.
I'm also glad they are holding onto Moreno. A stab at John or someone else may be worth Noonan, who is a bench player. But, not both Noonan and Moreno, no way.
I say if John was enthusiastic about coming to the Crew now for that salary, then okay, let's think about it. But, his recent production doesn't merit the Crew taking a big risk on him. They would be better off perhaps just looking for a younger striker.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/04/sternjohn460.jpg)
''John has only scored 2 goals in 24 appearances with Bristol City in the last two seasons.''
...with Bristol City the last 2 seasons ??? ???
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Like Simpauls write dah headline.
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Somebody please update on any progress in the treatment Stern's "pinched nerve".
Big up.
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Like Simpauls write dah headline.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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MLS Alums: Stern test ahead for John.
By: Mark C. Young (MLSnet.com).
Entering 11th English season, ex-Crew striker hoping to rise again
With all due respect to legendary crooner Andy Williams, August is the most wonderful time of the year. Lazy days on the beach, roadside stands bursting with fresh corn, and most importantly, the kickoff of the English soccer season. While the 2009-10 English Premier League season doesn't begin until Aug. 15, this week the lower tiers swing into action. And on Saturday, Aug. 8, a former MLS scoring champion will embark on his 11th English campaign, this time at Selhurst Park for his new team, Crystal Palace -- ex-Columbus Crew striker Stern John.
Last week, the Trinidad and Tobago star signed with the Eagles after rejecting a new contract offer from his previous team, Southampton. His move caused some consternation on the south coast, where Southampton boss Alan Pardew was uncharacteristically critical of John's last-minute change of heart. But the Saints were relegated from The Championship last season, and Palace offers John an outside shot at reaching EPL nirvana.
The Championship ought to be renamed the EPL (the English Purgatory League). Every team prays to get out of it in order to gain eternal access (hopefully) to the massive television money available in the "big show." Palace is trying to hang onto their two young striking prodigies, Victor Moses and Sean Scannell, but John is an insurance policy that could pay dividends even if neither of them leaves in the next couple of weeks. Another reason Palace's shrewd manager, Neil Warnock, signed John is because he has a history of helping teams gain promotion to the top flight. Most famously, his last-minute goal at Millwall put Birmingham City into the 2002 playoff final. Subsequently, he scored in the penalty-kick shootout against Norwich to help clinch EPL promotion for the Blues. More recently, he helped Sunderland gain EPL upward mobility in 2007.
The new campaign not only offers John a chance at shooting for the EPL, but also a chance at reestablishing his reputation as a prolific goal scorer. Last season was a nightmare for John. Playing briefly for Southampton and then on loan at Bristol City, he scored only three goals in 36 games. In his MLS days, he was better known for scoring three goals per game. It was his reputation as a hat-trick man which gained the Socca Warrior the attention of European scouts. In his two seasons with Columbus, John bagged six hat tricks, one of them coming in a 5-1 playoff game win over D.C. United in 1999.
The T&T international has deep roots in U.S. soccer. He played varsity ball at Mercer County Community College in Monmouth, N.J., and in 1997 was noticed by MLS scouts when he scored 16 goals in 26 games for the A-League's New Orleans Riverboat Gamblers. Columbus took a gamble on the young striker after John's cousin (and then Crew defender) Ansil Elcock recommended him to the team. It was one of the best signings in MLS history.
In his rookie season, John led the league with 26 goals, and won the 1998 MLS scoring crown with 57 points. In his sophomore year, his 18 goals tied him with Jason Kreis for the 1999 MLS Golden Boot. After recording a two-season haul of 44 goals in 55 regular season games, former two-time European Cup winners Nottingham Forest landed John's service in one of MLS's first major transfer deals.
At the City Ground, John found his goal-scoring groove quickly. And with a succession of clubs in England, the now veteran striker established his reputation as a reliable goal scorer, although mainly at the Championship level. Crystal Palace is betting that he can find his old form again and help them challenge for a promotion place.
John, who will turn 33 in October, has signed a one-year deal with Palace and knows he has a lot to prove. But never count out a natural born goal scorer, particularly one who four years ago helped his country become the smallest nation ever to qualify for the World Cup Finals. It seems unlikely that John and Trinidad will repeat their extraordinary World Cup qualifying exploits this time around, but he might just spark life into the Palace young guard this season. The man known as "Bravo" shoots to kickoff one more bravura goal-scoring season on Saturday. Crew fans, for sure, will be wishing him well.
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Some things stood out in this report
1. It seems unlikely that John and Trinidad will repeat their extraordinary World Cup qualifying exploits this time around, but ......
Well we will just see about that.
2. It was his reputation as a hat-trick man which gained the Socca Warrior ....
Might have to fix it
3. The new campaign not only offers John a chance at shooting for the EPL, but also a chance at reestablishing his reputation as a prolific goal scorer. Last season was a nightmare for John. Playing briefly for Southampton and then on loan at Bristol City, he scored only three goals in 36 games. In his MLS days, he was better known for scoring three goals per game. It was his reputation as a hat-trick man which gained the Socca Warrior the attention of European scouts. In his two seasons with Columbus, John bagged six hat tricks, one of them coming in a 5-1 playoff game win over D.C. United in 1999.
Now he known as bound tuh score if yuh give him 5 chances
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Some things stood out in this report
1. It seems unlikely that John and Trinidad will repeat their extraordinary World Cup qualifying exploits this time around, but ......
Well we will just see about that.
2. It was his reputation as a hat-trick man which gained the Socca Warrior ....
Might have to fix it
3. The new campaign not only offers John a chance at shooting for the EPL, but also a chance at reestablishing his reputation as a prolific goal scorer. Last season was a nightmare for John. Playing briefly for Southampton and then on loan at Bristol City, he scored only three goals in 36 games. In his MLS days, he was better known for scoring three goals per game. It was his reputation as a hat-trick man which gained the Socca Warrior the attention of European scouts. In his two seasons with Columbus, John bagged six hat tricks, one of them coming in a 5-1 playoff game win over D.C. United in 1999.
Now he known as bound tuh score if yuh give him 5 chances
Point no.1 is valid. There is nothing to wait and see about it. Right now it is unlikely
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time to protest the existence of this current ttff - time to express your vote of no confidence in this group of bandits.
viva la revoluccion
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Join me Deese...but dont tell palos...he might tell camps...
" CAN'T STAND IT... I KNOW YOU PLANNED IT .. IT'S A SABOTAGE"" (The Beastie Boys)
..REVOLUTION COMING SOON
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No mention that he just might do it again for T&T. I wonder if he got a call up.
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Play yuh football No.14
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Stern John close to Palace return
By Richard Cawley (South London Press)
CRYSTAL Palace striker Stern John is set to have his cast removed today - and could be back from his dislocated elbow after the international break.
The Eagles forward suffered the injury just 30 minutes into his debut for the club on the opening day of the season. Palace boss Neil Warnock said: Once Stern has got the cast removed he will need two to three weeks to get fit.
If John only takes a fortnight to get back in shape it would put him in contention to be involved in the home match against Cardiff on October 17.
Freddie Sears, who has missed the last two games with an ankle problem, is expected to be available for the visit of the Bluebirds.
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good news
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It's a bird.
No, it's a plane.
NO IT's BERRIS!!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xNxkeDxmL6Y/RrJZ2MTlY3I/AAAAAAAAARY/e7Nb9Z1MhCE/s400/Super-Grover.jpg)
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::)
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It's a bird.
No, it's a plane.
NO IT's BERRIS!!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xNxkeDxmL6Y/RrJZ2MTlY3I/AAAAAAAAARY/e7Nb9Z1MhCE/s400/Super-Grover.jpg)
:rotfl:
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Play football.
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Hit dem hard on the return
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Welcome back Stern and Berris :beermug:
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John raring to go.
Yahoo! Eurosport.
Crystal Palace striker Stern John is determined to make up for lost time after injury ruined the start of his Selhurst Park career.
The Trinidad & Tobago forward suffered a dislocated elbow barely half an hour into his Eagles debut, and is targeting a return to action after the international break.
"It's been a frustrating time. The lads are all really excited about what we can achieve this season, but I still feel like the new boy around the place because I haven't had time on the pitch," he said.
"I'm already six to eight weeks behind everyone else. I've kept myself as fit as possible but I can't wait to get back on the pitch and start scoring goals for Palace."
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anybody looking to take a few games when stern back in action? :beermug:
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anybody looking to take a few games when stern back in action? :beermug:
Yeah, I think I might! I don't live to far from Selhurst Park in London.
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It's a bird.
No, it's a plane.
NO IT's BERRIS!!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xNxkeDxmL6Y/RrJZ2MTlY3I/AAAAAAAAARY/e7Nb9Z1MhCE/s400/Super-Grover.jpg)
:rotfl: :rotfl:
I weak
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Good to see Stern was keeping fit and runnin' on de treadmill, doin' crunches and 1 hand push ups ;D while he other elbow was healing. Go Stern! You a true professional and I know that you will be a true supporter and contributor as long as you can fuh yuh padnah Latas while he is at de helm.
Big up :beermug:
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No.5 of all time!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_international_association_football_goal_scorers_by_country
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I sure is stern I see playin chess at the elk lodge,how old is stern? ;D
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John, Sears & Davis all back in training
cpfc.co.uk
Neil Warnock has confirmed that Freddie Sears, Stern John and Claude Davis will make a return to full training today, and could possibly feature in a practice match at the Beckenham Training ground.
Speaking to www.cpfc.co.uk Neil said:
"Stern, Freddie and Claude will all be making a return to training today, and we will look at involving them in a practice match in the afternoon. It is only a match between ourselves but it is a hugely encouraging that we could have all three involved today."
Stern has been out since dislocating his elbow on the opening day of the season, Freddie picked up an ankle strain against Scun thorpe while Claude struggled initially with a muscle strain before picking up a virus that has kept him away from the squad for the past couple of weeks.
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This real minor but...he say Stern name first, that could mean that Stern is the person he most looking forward to seeing when he make the comeback :-)
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Stern John's in line to start after good return
London Evening Standard
Stern John could tonight make his first start since the opening day of the season having impressed on his return at the weekend.
The Crystal Palace striker, who has been sidelined with a dislocated elbow, played in the final 15 minutes of the draw with Cardiff and twice came close to grabbing the winner.
Ahead of tonight's match at Leicester, Palace assistant manager Mick Jones said: "He looked very good in the short time he had on the pitch. He looked sharp, which was good news. To be fair I thought he might have scored with the header. And if he had a bit more match time in recent weeks I think he would have. His timing was just a bit off."
The Cardiff game also saw Freddie Sears (above) return from an ankle injury. Sears, who is on loan from West Ham, came on as substitute and could start tonight.
It is a timely boost for manager Neil Warnock who saw Victor Moses and Darren Ambrose hobble out of the Cardiff game with injury.
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Go Stern!!!! stop missing...buss them.
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Stern John could tonight make his first start since the opening day of the season having impressed on his return at the weekend.
:beermug:
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kyah keep up wid de backward moves ah we star players nah ... is crystal palace now is it ?
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Best news i hear all day........
ah love it!!
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kyah keep up wid de backward moves ah we star players nah ... is crystal palace now is it ?
Where have you been, yuh late sah?! ???
Stern has been with CP since the start of the season but got injured and is now coming back to do his stuff.
Hopefully he'll remain injury free for the rest of the season, maintain his starting position and help Palace climb up the table!
Go Stern go!! Show them why you are respected as one of CONCACAF's highest ever goal scorers!
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kyah keep up wid de backward moves ah we star players nah ... is crystal palace now is it ?
He went from League 1 Southampton to Championship Palace. Backward?
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kyah keep up wid de backward moves ah we star players nah ... is crystal palace now is it ?
He went from League 1 Southampton to Championship Palace. Backward?
Leave the man in his ignorance nah, he rell late!! 8)
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kyah keep up wid de backward moves ah we star players nah ... is crystal palace now is it ?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ...damn U jus crawl out from under ah rock or wha???
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14
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14
Look like 14 is not jes he jersey # but also he place in de side. He on de bench today.
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Look like 14 is not jes he jersey # but also he place in de side. He on de bench today.
edit: Daiz y dey was down 2 1.
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Stern seeks permanent deal
By Carl Marston (Green'Un24)
STERN John would have no hesitation in signing a permanent deal with Ipswich Town, if the opportunity was to arise in January.
John's debut for Town coincided with the club's first away win of the season, thanks to a 2-1 success at Cardiff City on Sunday.
The Crystal Palace loanee impressed with his bustling performance up front, and he is expected to retain his place for this Saturday's trip to Bristol City.
Palace's financial troubles have not helped John's cause at Selhurst Park, and so the 33-year-old would jump at the chance to make his loan move permanent with Town.
He is currently on loan until the end of the year, which equates to just five more games. He will not be allowed to play against his parent Crystal Palace on Boxing Day.
"The chance to come to Ipswich was out of the blue," admitted John.
"But it didn't take me long to decide to come here. I have to take one step at a time, and see what happens in January, but for sure I'd like to stay longer.
"It didn't worry me coming here that the club was in the bottom three.
The incentive is to get out of it.
"My contract at Crystal Palace ends next summer, though with a possible one-year extension depending on appearances. But I'm a million miles away from that.
"The club has financial problems, and it's in a tricky situation.
"I dislocated my elbow during the first game of the season, and I've been working my socks off to try and get back. I've had a few games, but I feel really fit and I felt good after the 90 minutes (at Cardiff)," added John.
Trinidad-born John, who has played more than 100 games for his country, began his career in England with Nottingham Forest.
He went on to play for Birmingham, where he enjoyed some Premier League action, before moving on to Coventry City, Sunderland, Southampton and Palace.
He has also celebrated promotion from the Championship while at Birmingham and later Sunderland, under Keane.
John confirmed: "I played under Roy (Keane) at Sunderland, so I know what he wants. He got the best out of me.
"A few of the players who have never worked with him might be uncomfortable to start with, but I know that if you put the work in, you'll get the results.
"And I know what it takes to get out of the Championship."
John started alongside Tamas Priskin at Cardiff, before teaming up with substitute Jon Stead during the second half. He missed a couple of first-half chances, but was generally a handful for Cardiff's back-line.
"I was delighted with the game. I thought we played really well and deserved the win," continued John.
"Of course we rode our luck at times, but we weathered the storm and we felt at half-time, even though we were a goal down, that the next team who scored would win the match.
"I'm surprised that Ipswich Town are down there (third-from-bottom), but then the Championship can be a very funny division. If you don't respect it, then you can struggle.
"But hopefully we can take momentum from the Cardiff win.
"You're only as good as your last game, and we'll be taking a lot of confidence into the Bristol City game," concluded John, who had a loan spell at Ashton Gate a year ago.
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He should try and score some blasted goals first and then talk about permanent deal.
How long Stern John eh score a goal now for club or country ?
Every club he go to bankrupt.
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already ???
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He should try and score some blasted goals first and then talk about permanent deal.
How long Stern John eh score a goal now for club or country ?
Every club he go to bankrupt.
You wanted him score from his sick bed or play with a cast?
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You wanted him score from his sick bed or play with a cast?
Wait, he was sick for the past 2 years ? how long he eh score, again ?
Me eh vex with de man if he want a new deal, but stop de f00cking talking and just get the job done and a deal will come. He play one game, no goals and done begging for a pernament deal.
Same for Jones, only bark, bark and no goals.
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Sam, yuh ever score ah goal in yuh mudder cant life, . I bet yuh ride ah set ah facking pine in ah village league somewhere in Rio Claro..
why yuh doh shut yuh mudder cant
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Sam, yuh ever score ah goal in yuh mudder cant life, . I bet yuh ride ah set ah facking pine in ah village league somewhere in Rio Claro..
why yuh doh shut yuh mudder cant
Why you doh open your mudda cant lemma throw some f00cking pipe in she belly. Like Stern John f00king yuh.
I like Stern John, de man took us to de world cup, but I find he should just hush he ass and study about getting de job done and then talk about contract.
Nothing wrong with what I say.
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Sam, yuh ever score ah goal in yuh mudder cant life, . I bet yuh ride ah set ah facking pine in ah village league somewhere in Rio Claro..
why yuh doh shut yuh mudder cant
Why you doh open your mudda cant lemma throw some f00cking pipe in she belly. Like Stern John f00king yuh.
I like Stern John, de man took us to de world cup, but I find he should just hush he ass and study about getting de job done and then talk about contract.
Nothing wrong with what I say.
oh jesus christ :rotfl: wayyyyy :rotfl:
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Sam, yuh ever score ah goal in yuh mudder cant life, . I bet yuh ride ah set ah facking pine in ah village league somewhere in Rio Claro..
why yuh doh shut yuh mudder cant
Laaaaarwd have mussy !! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Sam, yuh ever score ah goal in yuh mudder cant life, . I bet yuh ride ah set ah facking pine in ah village league somewhere in Rio Claro..
why yuh doh shut yuh mudder cant
Why you doh open your mudda cant lemma throw some f00cking pipe in she belly. Like Stern John f00king yuh.
I like Stern John, de man took us to de world cup, but I find he should just hush he ass and study about getting de job done and then talk about contract.
Nothing wrong with what I say.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Sam, yuh good we...
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Stern John - is he any better? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A60075443)
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Stern John - is he any better? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A60075443)
OK Stern mek him eat he words
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Stern John - is he any better? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A60075443)
OK Stern mek him eat he words
Dat chew up English he writing wit dey, look like he already start.
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Ipswich Town extend Stern John loan from Crystal Palace
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/i/ipswich_town/8437316.stm
Ipswich have extended the loan deal of Crystal Palace striker Stern John for another month, meaning he can face Blackpool in the FA Cup.
The 33-year-old Trinidad & Tobago international joined Town in November and has made four Championship starts, without scoring, for Roy Keane's side.
Ipswich won two and drew two of those games, with John missing the 3-1 defeat by Palace on Boxing Day.
He is expected to start on Saturday with Jon Stead suspended.
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gosh boy. big up stern. the work continues.
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Sky Sports News sources understand Crystal Palace players have not received their wages for December.
Cash-flow problems prevented the Championship club from paying the wages of their staff and players on time at the end of November.
The matter was resolved but Palace have now encountered the same trouble for a second month.
It is understood the players will receive their wages at some point next week.
Palace manager Neil Warnock gave his full backing to chairman Simon Jordan last month, saying he would continue to support him through a 'difficult period'.
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Stern John has point to prove as Ipswich Town face Southampton
By Adam Leitch (This Is Hampshire)
STERN John will be aiming to show Alan Pardew what he missed out on tomorrow.
The Trinidadian trained with Saints following Pardews arrival last July, but joined Crystal Palace instead a few days later.
Pardew declared he was unhappy with the circumstances surrounding Johns departure, saying he wanted him to stay and believing that John wanted to remain at the club.
John hit back by saying he was keen to stay at Saints but the club had dithered about offering him a new deal.
He (Pardew) knows the truth and I know the truth, John said at the time. I told them I wanted to stay but they never sorted out a deal properly.
John was sold by Roy Keane to Saints back in August 2007 as part of the deal which saw Kenywne Jones leave St Marys.
But Keane has been happy to hand him a regular run of games again after a year in the shadows Johns19 league goals including two on the final day against Sheffield United famously kept Nigel Pearsons Saints out of the Championship relegation zone in 2007/08.
But the arrival of Jan Poortvliet, as well as Saints needing to reduce their wage bill, saw John initially out of favour the following season and then loaned to Bristol City in October 2008.
John only ever scored twice for the Robins, though, and quickly became a regular substitute under Gary Johnson.
He dislocated an elbow on his Palace debut in August and on his return to fitness struggled to get a regular game.
Keane swooped for the man he had sold two years earlier to bring him to Ipswich on loan, initially for the whole of December but recently extended to the end of this month.
John, who scored his first Town goal in the 3-2 home win over Coventry last weekend, could partner ex-Chester striker Jon Walters tomorrow.
Walters is Towns joint top scorer with just six goals this season.
Keane could also be tempted to use teenage starlet Connor Wickham tomorrow.
Wickham was just 16 years and 11 days old when Keane gave him his first team debut last April.
He became Ipswichs youngest ever player and was 132 days younger than Theo Walcott was when he made his Saints debut against Wolves in 2005.
Wickham has started three league games this season with 11 sub appearances.
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Let's hope for a goalfest with David Connolly and Stern John hat tricks (and maybe a Reggie Lambe goal too) :)
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Ipswich opt not to sign Palace striker
By Richard Cawley (South London Press)
CRYSTAL Palace striker Stern John is heading back to Selhurst Park - after Ipswich decided not to extend his stay.
The Eagles forward has spent the last two months at Portman Road and has already stated he would be happy to sign for Roy Keane's men.
But the South London Press has received confirmation that Ipswich will not look to extend his stay once his loan spell expires this weekend - nor attempt to push through a permanent deal.
The news is a surprise as John has impressed for the Tractor Boys, and has not been on the losing side in the six Championship matches he has played.
His return will boost manager Neil Warnock's striking options, which have been depleted as Victor Moses has been banned from playing for the club by administrators P & A Partnership.
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Dang!!!!! This man like he have no home. :'(
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keep pushin stern! Jah Bless!
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Dang!!!!! This man like he have no home. :'(
Journey man.
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Look for Stern in the T&T PFL next season. Don't think he'll get another contract in England nor the USA.
Stern John and Marvin Andrews will be the two big star names in the PFL next season. Might do the league some good to have these experienced players play alongside the local playeres
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Look for Stern in the T&T PFL next season. Don't think he'll get another contract in England nor the USA.
Stern John and Marvin Andrews will be the two big star names in the PFL next season. Might do the league some good to have these experienced players play alongside the local playeres
nah! yuh lie!! stern would play in england and the MLS before playing in that poor broke league! it have many league one and league two teams who will jump @ the opportunity tuh sign stern. you probably talking bout avery, sancho and scotty.
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Stern's last stand?
By Carl Marston (Green'Un24)
ROY Keane has insisted that no official decision has been made on Stern John's future, although it seems likely that the 33-year-old is on his way back to Crystal Palace this weekend.
Reports yesterday suggested that Keane will not be extending John's loan stay from Selhurst Park for the rest of the season.
The Town boss did not confirm this, but it appears as though the Trinidad & Tobago international will be back in south London after tomorrow's game at Preston.
I have not really spoken to Stern since the game the other night,insisted Keane.
We have not officially made any decision. He's due to have his last official game for us tomorrow, will train with us today and will be in the squad.
But things can change. If one or two of other strikers were to leave then he'd definitely be staying.
(http://www.eadt.co.uk/s24/assets/images/dynamicFeed/heathm20100129100146.jpg)
Town wait on Stern call
itfc.co.uk
Town will make a decision on whether to extend the stay of Stern John at Portman Road after the weekend.
The Trinidad and Tobago international comes to the end of his second month on loan at the Club from Crystal Palace after Saturday's game at Preston. Blues can extend the loan for a third month - but the player would then have to return to Selhurst Park at the completion of it - or take him on loan in a window to window deal until the end of the season.
"It's Stern's last game with us tomorrow as part of his loan and we will make an official decision after that," says Town boss Roy Keane.
"He will be in the squad for the Preston game and we will see what develops from there."
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Door still ajar for John
By Carl Marston (Green'Un24)
ROY Keane has left the door half-open, in terms of Stern John's future at Ipswich Town, but it seems likely that the loanee front-man is on his way back to Crystal Palace.
During yesterday's pre-match press conference, Keane insisted that no official decision had yet been made on John's future.
The EADT revealed yesterday that Keane was proposing not to extend John's loan stay from Selhurst Park for the rest of the season. That was echoed by reports in the south London press.
Keane did not confirm this, but nor did he imply that the front-runner would be staying at Portman Road. It therefore appears as though the Trinidad & Tobago international will be returning to the cash-strapped Eagles, who are currently in the hands of the administrators, after today's game at Preston.
"I have not really spoken to Stern (John) since the game the other night," insisted Keane.
"We have not officially made any decision. He is officially due to have his last game for us at Preston, he'll train with us today and will be in the squad.
"Things can change. If one or two of our other strikers were to leave then he'd certainly be staying.
"I'll be sleeping on it over the next 24 hours, and will let you know tomorrow night what we've decided to do," added Keane.
Despite lacking in match fitness, the much-travelled John has made eight appearances for Town, and has not finished on the losing side.
He was not eligible to play against his parent club in Town's 3-1 defeat at Palace on Boxing Day.
John scored his first goal for Town, and in fact his first goal for 13 months, in the exciting 3-2 victory over Coventry City a fortnight ago, but was substituted before the hour-mark at Southampton last weekend, and was an unused substitute against West Brom on Tuesday night.
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So Keane by Murphy and he score so I guessing Stern loan done. What is the latest with our all time top goal scorer and arguably the greatest striker Trinidad ever produced (when at his peak)?
He unemployed or he riding pine at...(where he was again? Bristol City?)
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Loan spell expired, went back to Crytal Palance and was an unused sub in last Saturday's Chrystal Palace 2-1 win over Sc**thorpe.
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Loan spell expired, went back to Crytal Palance and was an unused sub in last Saturday's Chrystal Palace 2-1 win over Sc**thorpe.
So are you saying that our top ever goal scorer is Palancing at Crystal Palace rather than being employed on the field to do his job? 8)
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Looks like no Carnival fuh No.14 this year
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Derby 1-1 Crystal Palace: Stern John swoops late on to steal precious point
By Oliver Pickup (mirrorfootball.co.uk)
Stern John came off the bench at Pride Park to score four minutes from the end and earn Crystal Palace what could prove to be a vital point as they continue to feel the chill from a winter of discontent.
The Trinidad and Tobago striker wasnt started by manager Paul Hart, who sent young Sean Scannell to forage up front alone, initially in an ineffective 4-2-3-1 formation.
But the 33-year-old was put on at the break and crashed a superb effort against the crossbar minutes before firing a rasping shot into the bottom left-hand corner to level the game.
Palace had gone a goal down to Derby centre-back Russell Andersons header after only six minutes. The Scottish international, who joined from Burnley in the summer, rose to meet captain Robbie Savages free-kick and managed to bundle the ball home to register his first goal for the Rams.
But the home side failed to take advantage of the Eagles poor first-half performance and allowed them to get back into the match.
It was a game of two halves, said former Portsmouth boss Hart.
We were disappointed not to win, we had to regroup very quickly at half-time. I was not surprised when Stern scored, he is an experienced striker, but I have no regrets about not starting him.
Palace, in administration, with 10 points deducted, forced to sell star Victor Moses and left by manager Neil Warnock last month whose QPR side beat them last week sit one place above the drop zone with two games remaining.
And Hart, who has notched up only 13 points from a possible 36 since taking charge, admitted that his men will be watching todays Sheffield derby in the hope that Wednesday two points behind Palace with a game in hand slip up.
I will be listening or watching in a darkened room, he added.
Derby manager Nigel Clough, whose club have all but confirmed their Championship status for next year, was annoyed that his team failed to score a second.
We probably warranted more than the one goal after a great first half, he said.And I was disappointed that in the second half we did not put our foot on the ball.
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''I was not surprised when Stern scored, he is an experienced striker ,but I have no regrets about not starting him.
Crystal Palace manager Paul Hart told BBC London 94.9:
"The performance in the second probably deserved a win.
"If we can get the right service to him(Stern John), he can cause problems and he could have had a hat trick today."
Is de same old story, #14 buss de net and saving some team again ,is eedah he helping promote ah team or he saving dey ass from going down ..Just keep doing wha yuh doing boss .... Legend. :applause: :applause: :applause:
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This was Stern's 100th goal in English football. :applause:
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great milestone
the man....
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Nuff respect Stern-turn-inho. A legend no matter what some revisionists will try to say.
Nuff people on this same site felt tremendous joy for several years in the past as they rode on your back while you delivered time and time again. Yet some spit you out like hork when you went through rough times and drought. I hope you do understand that daiz de risk of being a football hero. :'(
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Well done Sir John..
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Highlights (http://rapidshare.com/files/377257340/Derby_1_Palace_1_-_17.4.10.avi)
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This was Stern's 100th goal in English football. :applause:
For real? :beermug:
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Nice finish, showed some excellent skill before that ending up w/him rocking the crossbar, great career Stern
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Agreed. Been a while since I've seen Stern so active lively!
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(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1195/sequence01.gif)
:beermug: :beermug:
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Is a chest spin and volley I seein dey?
He look like Stern from the '06 campaign.
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big respect brethren and congrats on d milestone! a true legend indeed!
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Is a chest spin and volley I seein dey?
He look like Stern from the '06 campaign.
Stern turn 2.0
Disgruntled go cuss
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Two men get cap when he hit the bar lawd fatha ......... if that had score jeez lol
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congrats on de 100 goals, raise yuh bat... big player!
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''I was not surprised when Stern scored, he is an experienced striker ,but I have no regrets about not starting him.
Crystal Palace manager Paul Hart told BBC London 94.9:
"The performance in the second probably deserved a win.
"If we can get the right service to him(Stern John), he can cause problems and he could have had a hat trick today."
Is de same old story, #14 buss de net and saving some team again ,is eedah he helping promote ah team or he saving dey ass from going down ..Just keep doing wha yuh doing boss .... Legend. :applause: :applause: :applause:
U still alive?
If yuh appearances on dis board consistent wit Stern scorin rate dese days (and dey seem to be) ah guess we might nex see yuh sometime rong Easter nex year... :devil:
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wicked wicked pics.
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dutty i now read the signiature and i mean WOW lol
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(http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00107/palace_john_280x420_107223a.jpg)(http://www.cpfc.co.uk/javaImages/17/65/0,,10323~8742167,00.jpg)
buh eh eh
look ting
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iNG5AE7xrYU/SRJXIVgGIyI/AAAAAAAAFWk/FBxj1tli_H0/WC1-1.jpg) ;D :D
ah feel disgruntled go ban meh from the Barca thread :rotfl:
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Highlights (http://rapidshare.com/files/377257340/Derby_1_Palace_1_-_17.4.10.avi)
Thank you for the highlights Gazette Paper.
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''I was not surprised when Stern scored, he is an experienced striker ,but I have no regrets about not starting him.
Crystal Palace manager Paul Hart told BBC London 94.9:
"The performance in the second probably deserved a win.
"If we can get the right service to him(Stern John), he can cause problems and he could have had a hat trick today."
Is de same old story, #14 buss de net and saving some team again ,is eedah he helping promote ah team or he saving dey ass from going down ..Just keep doing wha yuh doing boss .... Legend. :applause: :applause: :applause:
U still alive?
If yuh appearances on dis board consistent wit Stern scorin rate dese days (and dey seem to be) ah guess we might nex see yuh sometime rong Easter nex year... :devil:
Ungratefull :cursing: ...De man eh tired silence all yuh ??? Ah hear disgruntled buss up he head on de toilet bowl when he see West Coast picture wid Stern in ah Barca jussy ..And ah man say he see yuh in church with ah #14 well stich on de back ah yuh sunday best ,so doh play ting now ....yuh know yuh is ah believer . :beermug: :devil: :devil:
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Nice moves there from Stern.
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FYP Player of the Week: Stern John
By James Daly (fypfanzine.wordpress.com)
FYP was as surprised as anyone when Stern John flicked the ball over two defenders and smashed it against the bar at Derby, for a second we werent sure we were watching Palace, but maybe 1970s Brazil.
And although Derby were saved by their crossbar on that occasion, a few minutes later he displayed poise and agility to chest down a bouncing ball and calmly volley it into the corner.
Who is this man? Is this really the same 33-year-old who struggled to make any telling contributions against Cardiff. The same man who seemed more intent on batting the ball away any time it came near him as Palace went down 2-0 at Selhurst, much like his look-a-like Brian Lara.
How can someone go from being so shit to so effective in a week? The answer iswho cares? He did and now here we are, one point above third-from-bottom Sheffield Wednesday with two games left. Now isnt time to look back, its time to look forward (or down in our case).
Johns moment of magic earned Palace a vital, vital point (repetition for added effect) but Palace will need more of the same against West Brom and Wednesday if we are to stay in this division.
It hasnt been an easy season for John; injured on the opening day of the season, shipped off to Ipswich and seemingly unwanted at Selhurst. But injuries and the sale of VicMo has brought him back into contention and while he hasnt exactly set the league alight, that goal at Derby and the opener at Watford, his first for Palace we both massive goals.
At 33, were not going to see the John that smashed in 25 goals for Columbus Crew in 19998, although to be fair, FYPs grandma could probably bang in 25 goals in the MLS, and shes been dead for a few years.
Lets hope he can keep it up and knock Wednesday for six/keep Palace in the Championship boundary/other cricketing puns.
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"How can someone go from being so shit to so effective in a week?"
A lil harsh ..... answer being though that form is temporary class is permanent!
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James Daly ...Haul yuh mudda c**t
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Nice moves there from Stern.
I cyar see de highlights ..somebody post another link pleeeze .
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Nice moves there from Stern.
I cyar see de highlights ..somebody post another link pleeeze .
ya real slackin man
how come 1/2 slab ent send de video to ya IPhone as yet ;D
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Nice moves there from Stern.
I cyar see de highlights ..somebody post another link pleeeze .
http://www.youtube.com/v/Lw40BAM0ULw
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http://www.youtube.com/v/Lw40BAM0ULw
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Nice moves there from Stern.
I cyar see de highlights ..somebody post another link pleeeze .
ya real slackin man
how come 1/2 slab ent send de video to ya IPhone as yet ;D
He to busy scoring goals ;D :beermug:
Thanks Tallman :beermug:
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Did any of you notice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw40BAM0ULw
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Well done Sir John..
Ah miss something when was he knighted?
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Heard it from a good source, sometime this week or next week Stern John will be joining some MLS team. He is in talks with 3 of them at the moment and will be here soon to talk to them in person and accept the best deal.
Columbus Crew is one, I can't say to much because I dont want to blow up de man spot.
Remember, you heard it here first. Forget what rumors you hear from Tribalfootball.com, this is for real...
Watch this space.
Good luck to Stern, hope he lights them up again.
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Stern returning to Columbus Crew will sure bring back some good memories for Crew fans..when he was last there he score alot of goals..
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Stern returning to Columbus Crew will sure bring back some good memories for Crew fans..when he was last there he score alot of goals..
dat was in the sixties :devil:
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Hard to believe he was only there for such a short period, his legacy being so great.
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Stern returning to Columbus Crew will sure bring back some good memories for Crew fans..when he was last there he score alot of goals..
dat was in the sixties :devil:
;D ;D
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Stern returning to Columbus Crew will sure bring back some good memories for Crew fans..when he was last there he score alot of goals..
dat was in the sixties :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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nice..buss de net Legend 14
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Its official, he turned down offers as the money was to small, so Stern will be staying in England.
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Heard it from a good source, sometime this week or next week Stern John will be joining some MLS team. He is in talks with 3 of them at the moment and will be here soon to talk to them in person and accept the best deal.
Yuh better tap up dat Berris *cough* source :devil:
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Its official, he turned down offers as the money was to small, so Stern will be staying in England.
money to small! ?..ah hope he aint demanding money like if he in his prime :devil:
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Its official, he turned down offers as the money was to small, so Stern will be staying in England.
money to small! ?..ah hope he aint demanding money like if he in his prime :devil:
Maybe daz de problem right dey.
Back in de sixties was small money :devil:
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I doubt that the MLS would offer him 20,000 a month and I'm sure as shitty as he is now he'll get that in England. They probably offered him less than a 100K a year and that would be disrespectful to him. Anyone know what they were paying Darren Huckerby or even Freddie Lunjberg.
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I'm sure as shitty as he is now
Watch yuh place Godfather....Stern John was never shitty and he is still d most clinical striker to play for TNT
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maybe he might start running more
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Heard it from a good source, sometime this week or next week Stern John will be joining some MLS team. He is in talks with 3 of them at the moment and will be here soon to talk to them in person and accept the best deal.
Yuh better tap up dat Berris *cough* source :devil:
Empty vessels make de most noi.........look leh meh doh say nutten,he silence you in particular many times ,watch n see he do it again . ;) :beermug:
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Its official, he turned down offers as the money was to small, so Stern will be staying in England.
thank God
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Heard it from a good source, sometime this week or next week Stern John will be joining some MLS team. He is in talks with 3 of them at the moment and will be here soon to talk to them in person and accept the best deal.
Yuh better tap up dat Berris *cough* source :devil:
Empty vessels make de most noi.........look leh meh doh say nutten,he silence you in particular many times ,watch n see he do it again . ;) :beermug:
WDF??....It snowin in hell today or wha?
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Ok, Stern John makes a U turn and may sign for the Seattle Sounders.
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Ok, Stern John makes a U turn and may sign for the Seattle Sounders.
lol...iz a U turn or he just realise dat Crystal Palace are going out of business?
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lol...iz a U turn or he just realise dat Crystal Palace are going out of business?
I doubt he now realise that seeing as they were struggling to pay the players
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Ok, Stern John makes a U turn and may sign for the Seattle Sounders.
That is the Stern turn he's famous for.
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Ok, Stern John makes a U turn and may sign for the Seattle Sounders.
If dais true, dat would make going to the games even more worthwhile ;D Shut up disgruntled :devil:
But I don't think they would have room for him, with that striker from FC Twente coming in after the WC.
Big Up!
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Eyeing a Comeback: The Legendary Stern John
internationalsoccernetwork.com
The recent slump endured by the Columbus Crew has critics talking about the need for a pure goal scorer to play alongside the ever youthful Guillermo Barros Schelotto. Eyes have turned back to one of the most prolific scorers in Crew history, Stern John.
John, 33, is currently recovering from knee surgery, but is eyeing a comeback with Columbus. He has been going through rehabilitation and training with the Crew with the idea of officially joining the MLS side this winter. John has been a spectator at several Crew home games this summer, but hopes to be much more in a matter of months.
I am going to rehab and get myself back fit, Stern commented when asked about his plans. Many believed that if healthy, John would have signed with the Crew immediately after the 2010 World Cup.
There are no doubts about Johns confidence and international experience. I think I am capable of scoring goals still, the Trinidadian striker continued. The league is looking really better. It is way different now. It may be different, but his 44 goals in 55 games from 1998-1999 is still awe-inspiring. Just as impressive is his player resume that include time spent with Crystal Palace, Birmingham City, Southampton, Nottingham Forest, and of course the Trinidad and Tobago National Team. His time with T&T has become the stuff of legends, scoring 69 goals in 109 appearances.
It now seems that John and the Crew need each other. The key benefactor in this new relationship would be the Crews loyal fans. The fans are amazing, John stated. The team was losing like 4-0, they are still singing. As a player that goes a long way. The award-winning striker was and will surely be a fan favorite once again. He definitely understands this obligation and is already making reacquainting himself with fans, signing autographs after one game in particular.
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Ok, Stern John makes a U turn and may sign for the Seattle Sounders.
after all dat hype in the beginning of de thread steupse
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Eyeing a Comeback: The Legendary Stern John
internationalsoccernetwork.com
The recent slump endured by the Columbus Crew has critics talking about the need for a pure goal scorer to play alongside the ever youthful Guillermo Barros Schelotto. Eyes have turned back to one of the most prolific scorers in Crew history, Stern John.
John, 33, is currently recovering from knee surgery, but is eyeing a comeback with Columbus. He has been going through rehabilitation and training with the Crew with the idea of officially joining the MLS side this winter. John has been a spectator at several Crew home games this summer, but hopes to be much more in a matter of months.
I am going to rehab and get myself back fit, Stern commented when asked about his plans. Many believed that if healthy, John would have signed with the Crew immediately after the 2010 World Cup.
There are no doubts about Johns confidence and international experience. I think I am capable of scoring goals still, the Trinidadian striker continued. The league is looking really better. It is way different now. It may be different, but his 44 goals in 55 games from 1998-1999 is still awe-inspiring. Just as impressive is his player resume that include time spent with Crystal Palace, Birmingham City, Southampton, Nottingham Forest, and of course the Trinidad and Tobago National Team. His time with T&T has become the stuff of legends, scoring 69 goals in 109 appearances.
It now seems that John and the Crew need each other. The key benefactor in this new relationship would be the Crews loyal fans. The fans are amazing, John stated. The team was losing like 4-0, they are still singing. As a player that goes a long way. The award-winning striker was and will surely be a fan favorite once again. He definitely understands this obligation and is already making reacquainting himself with fans, signing autographs after one game in particular.
will not say much until I read "a contract was signed"
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Stern John wants another chance with Columbus, but will the Crew take him back?
By Shawn Francis (mlsinsiderblog.com)
Everybody has that one old boyfriend or girlfriend that theyll never forget, the one that makes them smile every time they think of their time together. Sports fans are the same. We all have an old flame of a player out there whos no longer with our club but we still get a little misty-eyed thinking about them.
For old-school Columbus Crew fans Stern John is that player. In 1998 the T&T-born striker took the league by storm, earning a place in the Best XI and winning the title of MLS Scoring Champion (the predecessor to the Golden Boot) with an outlandish 26 goals. Playing alongside Brian McBride the two formed one of the most fearsome strike forces ever to grace MLS. In short, the guy was damn good. Unfortunately for Crew fans he was too good because after another stellar season in 1999 (18 goals) he left Ohio for England, where he would spend the next 10 years playing for the likes of Crystal Palace, Nottingham Forest and Birmingham City.
But John is back in Ohio rehabbing after a knee surgery and talking about a return to the Crew, something thats sure to make the hearts of a few Columbus fans skip a beat. But as anyone whos ever come across an ex on Facebook knows, the present isnt always as pretty as the past. At age 34 John could be well past recovery (see New Englands recent release of Edgaras Jankauskas) or perfectly ripe (34 year-old Juan Pablo Angel currently sits second in the Golden Boot standings with a very respectable 13 goals). To take him back would be a risk by Columbus but one that might well be worth taking. Something to keep an eye on come camp time in January.
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^^ I would be surprise if the Crew take him back since so many believe his best days are behind him...hopefully they decide to give him a chance so he can prove many wrong
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John eyes return to Warriors by 2011 Gold Cup
T&Ts striker Stern John says he has not retired from international football and hopes to return to competitive action by February 2011 following a recovery from surgery. John has been out of action for close to five months after suffering an anterior cruciate ligament injury which required surgery and is now undergoing rehabilitation. John, a one-time top marksman on the national senior team, got the word from doctors in Ohio, USA last week that he is well on his way to a full recovery and can begin light training next month. This means he could be back playing by February. He is also expected to join the Columbus Crew in a winter training camp.
Now 34, John feels he can still make a contribution to the national team and is eying a return to the national team in time for the next Concacaf Gold Cup in mid 2011.I havent retired from international football. The injury caused a bit of a setback but the doctors have reported that the recovery is on track and once Im called upon to play then Im definitely going to answer that call, John said yesterday. The former Birmingham City and Sunderland striker is aware that there are other forwards currently stepping up to the call for the Soca Warriors but his experience can no doubt be a key factor to the teams future assignments against the higher ranked teams in Concacaf.
We are at a rebuilding stage right now and you need to have that proper blend of youth and experience. I dont expect to be starting every game or to fight down other players. Its about putting team first but if I can help the boys improve and help the team get positive results... John said. John wants to see T&T get its international football status back on track in the soonest possible time.Weve allowed our football to drop a bit and as players we were all disappointed the way things turned out. We should have capitalised more on what we achieved in Germany. But thats the past now... we simply need to get down to work and take the football back to a higher level and begin doing well against bigger oppositions especially in the Concacaf region, John said.
guardian
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No disrespect to the legend, but i feel is time tuh throw in the towel. give the yutes ah chance, both bravo and ince! we are ok in both the striking and goal keeping department.
i coulda understand if yuh was ah midfielder or ah defender since we're lacking in those departments.
give the yutes ah chance.
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??? if Latapy give dis any real thought it will be d dumbest decision ever, John doh have 4 years ah football in him nor d mobility to operate in d system Latas "tryin" to build, at-least from what I observe, the team will not benefit..............time to hang it up Stern thanks for your service in d past but seriously
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Stern just want to be there like Kitch was to hand over the will personally. Who he handing it over too??? Devon Jorsling of course. Dis is not no Freddy Adu ting, im not just hypin de yute but look at de numbers... they are steadily growing. Kerry Baptiste was as prolific and more but in the PFL. Dis man is doing it at de international level a la Stern John. So come in Stern, play a game or two with mini you and then gracefully retire. Shouldn't it be on the field of play, in front de fans, dat a big legend like Stern john retires anyway?
I wonder and ponder, what if Jorsling still had Carter partnering him up front, how de two of dem woulda look? Kenwayne have to come good yes.
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Stern just want to be there like Kitch was to hand over the will personally. Who he handing it over too??? Devon Jorsling of course. Dis is not no Freddy Adu ting, im not just hypin de yute but look at de numbers... they are steadily growing. Kerry Baptiste was as prolific and more but in the PFL. Dis man is doing it at de international level a la Stern John. So come in Stern, play a game or two with mini you and then gracefully retire. Shouldn't it be on the field of play, in front de fans, dat a big legend like Stern john retires anyway?
I wonder and ponder, what if Jorsling still had Carter partnering him up front, how de two of dem woulda look? Kenwayne have to come good yes.
Allyuh keep tings in perspective nah. Make no mistake, Jorsling has done well wit what he has been given. But he eh no yute, he go be 27 next month. And until he starts scoring regularly against non-Caribbean opposition, he should not be compared with Stern, let him do his own ting. As ah said in another thread, by de age of 27 (Jorsling's age), Stern had scored about 45 goals in 59 games, including three hat-tricks (one against Colombia). Doh get tie up.
How yuh mean yuh wondering about Carter and Jorsling? Dem already play about 10 matches together.
Let's take it a game at ah time.
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no thanks
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Bad move Stern
Your shelf life as a SocaWarrior as expired,rebuilding is the key and your return is not in any way shape or form helping in accomplishing this task,I thank you for all you have done but the past is not the present
Thanks
Raspect
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De man eh say he expect to start or play every game. He say he want to help de transition. Allyuh acting like we good up front or we done make some kinda progress.
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Nothing wrong with having a veteran striker in the squad, once they could still perform and don't demand an automatic start.
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Recover, get game fit schedule a game against some easy team let them man score a goal or two run a lap around the field and call that george. SIMPLE!
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Stern just want to be there like Kitch was to hand over the will personally. Who he handing it over too??? Devon Jorsling of course. Dis is not no Freddy Adu ting, im not just hypin de yute but look at de numbers... they are steadily growing. Kerry Baptiste was as prolific and more but in the PFL. Dis man is doing it at de international level a la Stern John. So come in Stern, play a game or two with mini you and then gracefully retire. Shouldn't it be on the field of play, in front de fans, dat a big legend like Stern john retires anyway?
I wonder and ponder, what if Jorsling still had Carter partnering him up front, how de two of dem woulda look? Kenwayne have to come good yes.
Allyuh keep tings in perspective nah. Make no mistake, Jorsling has done well wit what he has been given. But he eh no yute, he go be 27 next month. And until he starts scoring regularly against non-Caribbean opposition, he should not be compared with Stern, let him do his own ting. As ah said in another thread, by de age of 27 (Jorsling's age), Stern had scored about 45 goals in 59 games, including three hat-tricks (one against Colombia). Doh get tie up.
How yuh mean yuh wondering about Carter and Jorsling? Dem already play about 10 matches together.
Let's take it a game at ah time.
Well he is a yute man to me! and in terms of keeping it in perspective I believe I was painting a picture of how many times over earnings de boy trading at. Forward looking Im sure but I was looking at the steady growth. I'll take back de Stern over to Jorsling thing but then again when Kitch handed over de will to Scrunter, It wasn't an even exchange. Clearly its a case of de master and de student but I have seen no other student in the mold of Sterns prolificness (??) So I called it! I am definitely taking it a game at a time with baited breath. An exciting time for me at least!
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Thank you Sternturninho. Definitely looking to see you back in action contributing in ANY way you can. Some of the comments against your comeback for T&T are borderin' on pure tata reasoning. :'(
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Nothing wrong with having a veteran striker in the squad, once they could still perform and don't demand an automatic start.
Obviously a man with some sense allyuh remember when latas throw out a green team against Costa Rica and we ketch 4 ?
Veterans does set the example at practice of the level of intensity needed and because they know they time coming to a close they does appreciate the value of the sessions more ... this will always help the youths.... he doh have to be no starter but yuh need some veterans to help the younger heads.
Jorsling score a few goals against some Caribbean teams and man comparing him to Stern yes lol
I hear everything now.
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I hope he comes back and makes some sort of mark, his international career deserves a better final (prominent, at least) memory than the one it currently has.
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De man eh say he expect to start or play every game. He say he want to help de transition. Allyuh acting like we good up front or we done make some kinda progress.
Exactly !
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Stern just want to be there like Kitch was to hand over the will personally. Who he handing it over too??? Devon Jorsling of course. Dis is not no Freddy Adu ting, im not just hypin de yute but look at de numbers... they are steadily growing. Kerry Baptiste was as prolific and more but in the PFL. Dis man is doing it at de international level a la Stern John. So come in Stern, play a game or two with mini you and then gracefully retire. Shouldn't it be on the field of play, in front de fans, dat a big legend like Stern john retires anyway?
I wonder and ponder, what if Jorsling still had Carter partnering him up front, how de two of dem woulda look? Kenwayne have to come good yes.
Allyuh keep tings in perspective nah. Make no mistake, Jorsling has done well wit what he has been given. But he eh no yute, he go be 27 next month. And until he starts scoring regularly against non-Caribbean opposition, he should not be compared with Stern, let him do his own ting. As ah said in another thread, by de age of 27 (Jorsling's age), Stern had scored about 45 goals in 59 games, including three hat-tricks (one against Colombia). Doh get tie up.
How yuh mean yuh wondering about Carter and Jorsling? Dem already play about 10 matches together.
Let's take it a game at ah time.
And Jorsling ain't even half the player Stern was...If he was 20 yeah....But he have a 1/4 of the experience.
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stern don't need to come back and take another striker spot, no thanks
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Nothing wrong with having a veteran striker in the squad, once they could still perform and don't demand an automatic start.
Obviously a man with some sense allyuh remember when latas throw out a green team against Costa Rica and we ketch 4 ?
Costa Rica was still in contention and we had nothing to play for .. we are rebuilding now time to move on ...
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De man eh say he expect to start or play every game. He say he want to help de transition. Allyuh acting like we good up front or we done make some kinda progress.
Exactly !
a warning allyuh, disgruntled will come out of the woodwork if stern returns :D
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Allyuh forget Roger Milla from Cameroon,de man was closing in on 50. ???
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i'd like to see john come back. i think john has a little something left to contribute. hopefully when he recovers he could play in some friendlies. then we'll see if he's worthy on coming back. i give him one more chance. look at mexico they still using blanco, and de man could still play despite his age.
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like he looking for ah MLS wuk so he looking to showcase for some american club scouts
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Allyuh forget Roger Milla from Cameroon,de man was closing in on 50. ???
miller actually score goals in the world cup
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wait nah, man debating dis an' throwin in he stats, when in fact he's had a very lean 2.5 years, we have to live in d now, man callin for Latas head in dis general football guava season we sufferin, an we want to bring ah man who suffered and get injured in d face of he own personal guava season ???............... if he get ah club an bringin with him noticeable form, cool, but d national team is no place to be helpin man ketch form, we try dat in 2009 aready....it didn' work...................alyuh self say football is ah results business, it cyar have room for sentiment diss rounds, not if we really want to be serious bout national football.
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Allyuh forget Roger Milla from Cameroon,de man was closing in on 50. ???
miller actually score goals in the world cup
Yeah..but is Miller in the top 10 of the world's all-time goalscorers?
Stern if yuh fit and scoring or could handle an attacking midfield role then welcome back. :beermug:
edit: Ah just check de list of all-time goalscorers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_international_goal_scorers_by_country) and Stern is actually at No. 5...two places under Pele and seven places above Carlos Pavon. Yes de same Pavon who at 36 buss 3 goals on us in World Cup qualifiers last yr.
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Any player of quality who is fit enough to play international football should not be discarded by a country of such a small talent pool. That said it will be a tremendous task for a player of his age to recover. I wish Stern all the best.
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There have been many older players that have successfully made come-backs,who knows how John will fit in...give im a try an see wah happen.
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Stern just want to be there like Kitch was to hand over the will personally. Who he handing it over too??? Devon Jorsling of course. Dis is not no Freddy Adu ting, im not just hypin de yute but look at de numbers... they are steadily growing. Kerry Baptiste was as prolific and more but in the PFL. Dis man is doing it at de international level a la Stern John. So come in Stern, play a game or two with mini you and then gracefully retire. Shouldn't it be on the field of play, in front de fans, dat a big legend like Stern john retires anyway?
I wonder and ponder, what if Jorsling still had Carter partnering him up front, how de two of dem woulda look? Kenwayne have to come good yes.
Allyuh keep tings in perspective nah. Make no mistake, Jorsling has done well wit what he has been given. But he eh no yute, he go be 27 next month. And until he starts scoring regularly against non-Caribbean opposition, he should not be compared with Stern, let him do his own ting. As ah said in another thread, by de age of 27 (Jorsling's age), Stern had scored about 45 goals in 59 games, including three hat-tricks (one against Colombia). Doh get tie up.
How yuh mean yuh wondering about Carter and Jorsling? Dem already play about 10 matches together.
Let's take it a game at ah time.
And Jorsling ain't even half the player Stern was...If he was 20 yeah....But he have a 1/4 of the experience.
OK.
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Any player of quality who is fit enough to play international football should not be discarded by a country of such a small talent pool. That said it will be a tremendous task for a player of his age to recover. I wish Stern all the best.
:beermug:
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ah eh lying...some of allyuh here mad yes
Stern...you organize yuhself...play de fitball...and we go take it from there
good luck with the recovery
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Any player of quality who is fit enough to play international football should not be discarded by a country of such a small talent pool. That said it will be a tremendous task for a player of his age to recover. I wish Stern all the best.
Ditto
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When he get fit, he needs to join a team and demonstrate his fitness. Otherwise, it is time to turn the page.
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When he get fit, he needs to join a team and demonstrate his fitness. Otherwise, it is time to turn the page.
:beermug:
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
COSIGN !!!!!
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Good stuff Ngozi. Daiz wisdom and insight for posters to digest.
Respec'.
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
COSIGN !!!!!
And how long ago was that again?
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
COSIGN !!!!!
And how long ago was that again?
Not that long. That's right up until just before he got injured.
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ah eh lying...some of allyuh here mad yes
Stern...you organize yuhself...play de fitball...and we go take it from there
good luck with the recovery
Good...how about Raul and Inzagi are they not scoring in some top leagues. Pace is always a big assest for a striker but striker intelligence also plays a big role.
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Good post!
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Any player of quality who is fit enough to play international football should not be discarded by a country of such a small talent pool. That said it will be a tremendous task for a player of his age to recover. I wish Stern all the best.
:beermug:
Ditto.
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Good post!
Love it.
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Good luck to half-slab. See if you cud get some work done on that compass while you're at it.
would love to see the man battle for a spot on the team.
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Ah hear Stern John kissing Jack Warner ass to get back on the team because he looking at a coaching job down the road also. But if he can still offer something the others cant, then why not, but do it for the right reasons.
He and the blacklisted crew dont even speak anymore, he dropped out.
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Ah hear Stern John kissing Jack Warner ass to get back on the team because he looking at a coaching job down the road also. But if he call still ofer something the others cant, then why not, but do it for the right reasons.
He and the blacklisted crew dont even speak anymore, he dropped out.
Birchall,Cox and Andrews took money NOBODY ELSE INCLUDING STERN TOOK D PITTANCE THAT WAS OFFERED.
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Ah hear Stern John kissing Jack Warner ass to get back on the team because he looking at a coaching job down the road also. But if he call still ofer something the others cant, then why not, but do it for the right reasons.
He and the blacklisted crew dont even speak anymore, he dropped out.
Birchall,Cox and Andrews took money NOBODY ELSE INCLUDING STERN TOOK D PITTANCE THAT WAS OFFERED.
I hear dat is jes ah rumour
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Ah hear Stern John kissing Jack Warner ass to get back on the team because he looking at a coaching job down the road also. But if he call still ofer something the others cant, then why not, but do it for the right reasons.
He and the blacklisted crew dont even speak anymore, he dropped out.
Birchall,Cox and Andrews took money NOBODY ELSE INCLUDING STERN TOOK D PITTANCE THAT WAS OFFERED.
I hear dat is jes ah rumour
D person who tell me should know so I goin wit what he said.
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Mental toughness? I still remember (and hurting) from what happen in El Salvador... ride out into the sunset Stern John!
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Mental toughness? I still remember (and hurting) from what happen in El Salvador... ride out into the sunset Stern John!
Come nah man. OK, so he miss de penalty. But when he came off in de 77th minute T&T was still leading 2-0. We concede two goals on two free kicks by de same player, one ah dem was in de last minute of injury time, and in all ah dat yuh still want tuh call Stern name?
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Ah like this forum too bad,sometimes the best thing to do is just lay back and read,the thing right now is everybody hearing,Sam hear,Weary hear,Sugar hear etc so who on the new blacklist?when the court case settle who shareing the money?
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Mental toughness? I still remember (and hurting) from what happen in El Salvador... ride out into the sunset Stern John!
Come nah man. OK, so he miss de penalty. But when he came off in de 77th minute T&T was still leading 2-0. We concede two goals on two free kicks by de same player, one ah dem was in de last minute of injury time, and in all ah dat yuh still want tuh call Stern name?
Why bother with them Tallman? they are f**king ungrateful
all them who went Germany or came out the waggonist station in time for the Mexico game... they dont know it was his 5 goals that got us to a cup
They forget it was him who score the winner in Bermuda to allow us to move on... the man miss a penalty and we blow a 2-0 lead within the last 5 minutes and its Stern fault .. allyuh real good
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Mental toughness? I still remember (and hurting) from what happen in El Salvador... ride out into the sunset Stern John!
Come nah man. OK, so he miss de penalty. But when he came off in de 77th minute T&T was still leading 2-0. We concede two goals on two free kicks by de same player, one ah dem was in de last minute of injury time, and in all ah dat yuh still want tuh call Stern name?
Ok everyone misses penalties but that is not the problem. It is the sense of entitlement he exhibited with regards to taking that spot kick! Yuh forget the story? ... Anyway no way el salvador was coming back from 3-0! We don't need that kind of attitude back in the side, it can be demotivating to the other team players!
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Ah like this forum too bad,sometimes the best thing to do is just lay back and read,the thing right now is everybody hearing,Sam hear,Weary hear,Sugar hear etc so who on the new blacklist?when the court case settle who shareing the money?
FYI D TTFF new ploy is dat d 3 fellas mentioned signed an agreement wit dem and is still part of the lawsuit. Dat is not d players fault d TTFF should have informed d court 2 have d players names removed. Dat is not d players responsibility. It is intrested 2 hear what d judge rule on Fri. If they produce d document where dey sign d money could then b shared wit d remaining 13.
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Ah like this forum too bad,sometimes the best thing to do is just lay back and read,the thing right now is everybody hearing,Sam hear,Weary hear,Sugar hear etc so who on the new blacklist?when the court case settle who shareing the money?
Coop's,
If you listened to the interview with Mike Townley a few months back you woulda HEAR that as far as he is concerned 16 players are entitled to whatever settlement is to be had. So it doh matter who went behind the stadium, in Jack office, or by Camps in de rum shop and collect money, all 16 ah dem "shareing" in de money because he never got official documentation that the players collected money from the TTFF and as such is no longer part of the lawsuit.
Oh yeah and ah also HEAR we going Brazil!!!
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How old is Stern John?
and if he's still scoring goals by all means bring him in but if he's not when den we have a problem , wait who's he playing for currently is he starting and how many goals does he have for the season.I hear ah man mentioned inzagi still scoring goals that's nice oh wait he getting sweat then now that's different.
Come on guys I like stern john like most people on this site but I ent hearing nothing and seeing nothing so until better can't be done let the worse continue.
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Ah like this forum too bad,sometimes the best thing to do is just lay back and read,the thing right now is everybody hearing,Sam hear,Weary hear,Sugar hear etc so who on the new blacklist?when the court case settle who shareing the money?
Coop's,
If you listened to the interview with Mike Townley a few months back you woulda HEAR that as far as he is concerned 16 players are entitled to whatever settlement is to be had. So it doh matter who went behind the stadium, in Jack office, or by Camps in de rum shop and collect money, all 16 ah dem "shareing" in de money because he never got official documentation that the players collected money from the TTFF and as such is no longer part of the lawsuit.
Oh yeah and ah also HEAR we going Brazil!!!
But a brave man go take money from d vampire and then go 2 collect he cheque when they payin out from d lawsuit.
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Funny thing about Stern is whenever somebody count him out he does bring the noise lol
Mexico game all ah we wanted him dead and gone .. he hold on to Mexico watap watap and run to the crowd bawling ..... season before he dead and buried he score goals for Southamptom to survive just like at Birmingham and Sunderland and last season he break he hand, unfit, all kinda thing ... hold onto Derby County and wok them and help palace survive .... he is not my fav player but woe be onto the man who underestimate Stern f**king John.
I don't think he needs to start but you can't teach that kinda ability to finish and mental toughness in debilitating circumstances.
Big up :beermug: :beermug:
Mental toughness? I still remember (and hurting) from what happen in El Salvador... ride out into the sunset Stern John!
Come nah man. OK, so he miss de penalty. But when he came off in de 77th minute T&T was still leading 2-0. We concede two goals on two free kicks by de same player, one ah dem was in de last minute of injury time, and in all ah dat yuh still want tuh call Stern name?
Ok everyone misses penalties but that is not the problem. It is the sense of entitlement he exhibited with regards to taking that spot kick! Yuh forget the story? ... Anyway no way el salvador was coming back from 3-0! We don't need that kind of attitude back in the side, it can be demotivating to the other team players!
Me eh saying dat de circumstances surrounding de taking of de penalty was de right one, but den again it is not uncommon for players tuh raff de ball and take de kick. Look Carlos and Yorke was taking all de free kicks and Keon was getting marginalised. My point is dat Stern should not be de focal point for dropping two points in dat game. Kenwyne miss ah goal too. Ah mean come on, two goals with 10 minutes to go is not good enough? We collectively drop de ball (pun intended) defensively. Why would Mats bring on Glen in de 77th min and we two up? We couldna lock up shop?
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Ah like this forum too bad,sometimes the best thing to do is just lay back and read,the thing right now is everybody hearing,Sam hear,Weary hear,Sugar hear etc so who on the new blacklist?when the court case settle who shareing the money?
Coop's,
If you listened to the interview with Mike Townley a few months back you woulda HEAR that as far as he is concerned 16 players are entitled to whatever settlement is to be had. So it doh matter who went behind the stadium, in Jack office, or by Camps in de rum shop and collect money, all 16 ah dem "shareing" in de money because he never got official documentation that the players collected money from the TTFF and as such is no longer part of the lawsuit.
Oh yeah and ah also HEAR we going Brazil!!!
But a brave man go take money from d vampire and then go 2 collect he cheque when they payin out from d lawsuit.
You call that brave! i thought JW was corupt :devil:.
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Ah like this forum too bad,sometimes the best thing to do is just lay back and read,the thing right now is everybody hearing,Sam hear,Weary hear,Sugar hear etc so who on the new blacklist?when the court case settle who shareing the money?
Coop's,
If you listened to the interview with Mike Townley a few months back you woulda HEAR that as far as he is concerned 16 players are entitled to whatever settlement is to be had. So it doh matter who went behind the stadium, in Jack office, or by Camps in de rum shop and collect money, all 16 ah dem "shareing" in de money because he never got official documentation that the players collected money from the TTFF and as such is no longer part of the lawsuit.
Oh yeah and ah also HEAR we going Brazil!!!
But a brave man go take money from d vampire and then go 2 collect he cheque when they payin out from d lawsuit.
You call that brave! i thought JW was corupt :devil:.
HE CORRUPT YESSSSSS. Dat is y u go b dotish 2 double cross him if d judge rule dat Andrews entile 2 money. Dey so sloppy they never bother 2 have d fellas who settle name remove from d lawsuit. I eagerly await what d judge say bout this matter.
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What ever happen to Stern's big comeback??
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Personally I don't think Columbus will sign him. They already gave away their best older players such as Schelotto, Hejuk and other important ones like Brian Carroll and Steven Lenhart. Stern hasn't been with a club for a lil while now and has been havin injury problems. I rel doubt.
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Personally I don't think Columbus will sign him. They already gave away their best older players such as Schelotto, Hejuk and other important ones like Brian Carroll and Steven Lenhart. Stern hasn't been with a club for a lil while now and has been havin injury problems. I rel doubt.
Stern for next coach of T&T??
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Jack Warner :devil:
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He get ah job to fix the net an dem he was bussing.
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any word on Stern ???...
just really checking on the man....and i am almost sure this may turn into he can or cant play for tnt again da da da...
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i read in a report on here that stern practicing with the team, what really going on here.
allyuh really want disgruntled to come out of retirement or what :D
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So we should ban him from practicing with the team ... eh homie???!
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lol.....de man jess training...gettting his fitnesss up...anyhow yuh take it, dats what all we b opys doing, even our euro based players...staying/getting fit! besides that....is stern man!
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
i would play neither scotland or stern
play roberts and jones 8)
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
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For rwal, Stern John before Jason Scotland anyday...
And a healthy and inform Stern John will help us greatly.
I hope he signs with North East Stars soon to gain back confidence and fitness.
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F#CK YOU
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Honestly a fit and healthy Stern is still better than most of the strikers we have today..its not Stern fault..
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
If I am moving on then it has to be for better..not for what has been proven to be not enough. Also i never said he is old stern. I said he is most likely still better than many of what we have so i will not be surprised if he makes the team. Funny how you assume I think he is the old stern although I did not say that..your understanding seems to be weak
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
I agree 100%. time for stern to call it a day. thanx for the memories bredder. it's the same situation with dwight when he came back the last hex and cost fellas like hyland and guerra a place on the team. stern please join ince and tallest and retire from international football. good luck in the future. :beermug:
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I would not say Stern cost Hyland and Guerra aplace on the team.. Stern was a proven goal scorer and he did NOT pick himself.. If the coach pick him it is not his fault... Let's see what the man have to offer, if he not upar, then fine, but the call the man out before anyone even see how he doing is not right.
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
I agree 100%. time for stern to call it a day. thanx for the memories bredder. it's the same situation with dwight when he came back the last hex and cost fellas like hyland and guerra a place on the team. stern please join ince and tallest and retire from international football. good luck in the future. :beermug:
But weren't you calling for Whitley (who is de same age as Stern) to return to de midfield some months back? And I cyar even remember when last Whitley kick ah ball in any professional league. Our pool of players is too small for us to just discard men because of their age. Let's see if de man could still contribute to de team before we throw him to de side nah.
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
I agree 100%. time for stern to call it a day. thanx for the memories bredder. it's the same situation with dwight when he came back the last hex and cost fellas like hyland and guerra a place on the team. stern please join ince and tallest and retire from international football. good luck in the future. :beermug:
But weren't you calling for Whitley (who is de same age as Stern) to return to de midfield some months back? And I cyar even remember when last Whitley kick ah ball in any professional league. Our pool of players is too small for us to just discard men because of their age. Let's see if de man could still contribute to de team before we throw him to de side nah.
Good midfielders are few and far between in T&T, but we have strikers in abundance. the only reason i called for whitley is Bc latas was playing all kinda old man like trent noel and chubby andrews when whitley is ah proven boniefied center mid who could take on defenders and score goals so why not go wid ah oldman who could do the thing better.
in the center forward department we're saturated with capable players, k. jones, c glenn, scott sealy, kerry baptiste, d jorslin, d roberts, k jagdeosing, s winchester, lester peltier, kevon carter. we don't need no more old players to stop the development of a youngster who have many playing yrs ahead whereas stern dun do it already and had his time, give the yutes ah chance for crying out loud!
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As the senior coach I would not play stern john but I would keep him in the mix to pass on knowledge. Trinidad needs to looks 3, 4, 5 years out we are not doing anything in the short term. we should use the next 2 years to work on giving the U20 and U23 players maximum exposure and experience.
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
I agree 100%. time for stern to call it a day. thanx for the memories bredder. it's the same situation with dwight when he came back the last hex and cost fellas like hyland and guerra a place on the team. stern please join ince and tallest and retire from international football. good luck in the future. :beermug:
But weren't you calling for Whitley (who is de same age as Stern) to return to de midfield some months back? And I cyar even remember when last Whitley kick ah ball in any professional league. Our pool of players is too small for us to just discard men because of their age. Let's see if de man could still contribute to de team before we throw him to de side nah.
Good midfielders are few and far between in T&T, but we have strikers in abundance. the only reason i called for whitley is Bc latas was playing all kinda old man like trent noel and chubby andrews when whitley is ah proven boniefied center mid who could take on defenders and score goals so why not go wid ah oldman who could do the thing better.
in the center forward department we're saturated with capable players, k. jones, c glenn, scott sealy, kerry baptiste, d jorslin, d roberts, k jagdeosing, s winchester, lester peltier, kevon carter. we don't need no more old players to stop the development of a youngster who have many playing yrs ahead whereas stern dun do it already and had his time, give the yutes ah chance for crying out loud!
I finding it rel hard to understand yuh logic breds... Yuh say Yorke who was playing professional ball at the time kept Hyland and Guerra off the team, but Whitley should be given a chance? ??? De same Whitley who in no league and have discipline issues? I not fighting down de man...I actually like him as a player (when he on de field), but he never really helped his cause for selection after his last game against Jamaica in 2008.
Yes we have strikers in abundance but it's a case of more quantity than quality. With the exception of Baptiste (who without a club) and Jorsling (lost form) all those forwards yuh name have been tried, tested and found wanting, young and we still waiting for dey potential to kick een or been more effective in midfield roles. On that list we probably have 2 or 3 "capable" goal scorers. And if anything I would say at this present time our midfield on par with our strikers and dat eh saying much.
Yes the youths should be given a chance but we can't afford to ignore those who can make significant contributions to the team...regardless of their age. We have to find a way to factor in the older experienced players who can contribute with the youths on the rise and that is where a good coach comes in... At the end of the day the BEST team should be selected...old, young, experienced or inexperienced.
Whether or not Stern could still do it is left to be seen, but the man at least deserves a chance if he is willing.
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If The truth be told a fit Stern will be an asset to this T&T side. I will play Stern before Scotland and all the other pretenders.
I do concurr, Stern b4 Scotty any day...i don't think we should rule out a fit Stern, he's what, 32? If i'm right he has a few years left in him.
come to think of it, I cant wait to see pfister's pfisters starting 11 well if we have a team that is...
stern is 35 this year .. USA pushing Juan Agudelo Teal Bunbury etc now Donavon London coming of the bench no Marcus Beasley now ... but we still with the stern john love affair we in bad shape
We still with the Stern love affair because we do not have MUCH better than him (even at his age today)..dont be foolish to compare USA selection pool to TnT selection pool..our current local talent cannot even qualify for Gold Cup
why not play roberts and jones, roberts is more than able
Now show me a report where Stern is currently being looked over Roberts and Jones..My point (since you seem to have missed it) is that Stern training for the national team should not be a surprise since we do not have much better than him..In fact results from different strikers in recent years PROVED it..
what makes you think he is still the old stern .... he has not played competitive football in almost a year time to move on
I agree 100%. time for stern to call it a day. thanx for the memories bredder. it's the same situation with dwight when he came back the last hex and cost fellas like hyland and guerra a place on the team. stern please join ince and tallest and retire from international football. good luck in the future. :beermug:
But weren't you calling for Whitley (who is de same age as Stern) to return to de midfield some months back? And I cyar even remember when last Whitley kick ah ball in any professional league. Our pool of players is too small for us to just discard men because of their age. Let's see if de man could still contribute to de team before we throw him to de side nah.
Good midfielders are few and far between in T&T, but we have strikers in abundance. the only reason i called for whitley is Bc latas was playing all kinda old man like trent noel and chubby andrews when whitley is ah proven boniefied center mid who could take on defenders and score goals so why not go wid ah oldman who could do the thing better.
in the center forward department we're saturated with capable players, k. jones, c glenn, scott sealy, kerry baptiste, d jorslin, d roberts, k jagdeosing, s winchester, lester peltier, kevon carter. we don't need no more old players to stop the development of a youngster who have many playing yrs ahead whereas stern dun do it already and had his time, give the yutes ah chance for crying out loud!
what ? We have strikers in abundance ? ...You mean we have alot of strikers in abundance who continue to fail at senior level and still yet to prove themselves against caribbean opposition
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Firebrand you said with the exception of baptiste and jorslin the rest of strikers have been tried and found lackin, are you serious dan?
as ah matter of fact baptiste and jorslin are our weakest links. KJ has been topic of debate in england since he braced the prem, the man has been in double figurs ever since, kendell jagdeosingh played in the concacaf champions league for three yrs straight and in his first two seasons a was ah super super sub scoring vital goals that took PR islanders far into the final rounds and it was around the time of the hex.
lester peltier just got a bliegh to play for the national team in the degicel cup where latas "finally" acknowledge the yute, and he scored ah couple good goals playing out of position. shandon winchester is another spark plug who caught the eyes of a few big clubs, but lack of caps cost him and peltier a chance to play top flight football in europe.
well doh talk for darryl roberts who ppl does call my boy BC i recognize this fella has all the tools to become a T&T legend, this fella has been given a raw deal since wim rijsbergen rode out, this is the same fella who saved us from embarrassment when we went to bermuda and narrowly escaped elimination with his vital miracle goal, but has been ignored by latas and pancho ever since for god knows what and why!.
cornell glenn is another one, the man has what it takes to play on an international level, now he eh no spring chicken, but he much younger than stern and was our top scorer in the last WQ campaign.
so firebrand which one of these striker that i've called as you say beside jorslin and baptiste who has been tested on an international level and was found lacking ?
the only one i could think of was KJ and he was still recovering from injury, maybe you meant to say scotty and he didn't make my list. as for roberts, he only played three international games since wim bounced, the 2nd leg bermuda game, the cuba game where we beat cuba 3-0 and he got a cobo in that game and he featured in the england game where KJ was injured, that cuba game in 2008 was the last time darryl robert ever laced up for T&T.
peltier played his first international when we play SVG, haiti and Gyn in the degicel prelims where he scored two goals as a winger. jagdeosingh played his first international in the degicel in martinique and he played one full game, all the rest was sub ons.
winchester also played his first competitive international for the first time in the degicel and was a sub on. and i know you not talking about cornell glenn who was our top scorer in the last WQC on the road to SA2010, and to add to that he was the only forward who looked likely to score in the WC 2006 in germany.
allyuh feel JC does watch football crossed eyed or what? we don't need stern, and we don't need whitley either, let us start building for the future with the younguns we have, after all they would be on the scene for the next 8 yrs so why not use them now.
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Firebrand you said with the exception of baptiste and jorslin the rest of strikers have been tried and found lackin, are you serious dan?
as ah matter of fact baptiste and jorslin are our weakest links. KJ has been topic of debate in england since he braced the prem, the man has been in double figurs ever since, kendell jagdeosingh played in the concacaf champions league for three yrs straight and in his first two seasons a was ah super super sub scoring vital goals that took PR islanders far into the final rounds and it was around the time of the hex.
lester peltier just got a bliegh to play for the national team in the degicel cup where latas "finally" acknowledge the yute, and he scored ah couple good goals playing out of position. shandon winchester is another spark plug who caught the eyes of a few big clubs, but lack of caps cost him and peltier a chance to play top flight football in europe.
well doh talk for darryl roberts who ppl does call my boy BC i recognize this fella has all the tools to become a T&T legend, this fella has been given a raw deal since wim rijsbergen rode out, this is the same fella who saved us from embarrassment when we went to bermuda and narrowly escaped elimination with his vital miracle goal, but has been ignored by latas and pancho ever since for god knows what and why!.
cornell glenn is another one, the man has what it takes to play on an international level, now he eh no spring chicken, but he much younger than stern and was our top scorer in the last WQ campaign.
so firebrand which one of these striker that i've called as you say beside jorslin and baptiste who has been tested on an international level and was found lacking ?
the only one i could think of was KJ and he was still recovering from injury, maybe you meant to say scotty and he didn't make my list. as for roberts, he only played three international games since wim bounced, the 2nd leg bermuda game, the cuba game where we beat cuba 3-0 and he got a cobo in that game and he featured in the england game where KJ was injured, that cuba game in 2008 was the last time darryl robert ever laced up for T&T.
peltier played his first international when we play SVG, haiti and Gyn in the degicel prelims where he scored two goals as a winger. jagdeosingh played his first international in the degicel in martinique and he played one full game, all the rest was sub ons.
winchester also played his first competitive international for the first time in the degicel and was a sub on. and i know you not talking about cornell glenn who was our top scorer in the last WQC on the road to SA2010, and to add to that he was the only forward who looked likely to score in the WC 2006 in germany.
allyuh feel JC does watch football crossed eyed or what? we don't need stern, and we don't need whitley either, let us start building for the future with the younguns we have, after all they would be on the scene for the next 8 yrs so why not use them now.
Is international football we talking bout, not club and Champions League achievements, so leh we keep things in perspective nah breds... And like yuh miss where I said some of our strikers are also young and we still waiting for dey potential to kick een or some have been more effective in midfield roles. Peltier, Jaggy, Carter and Whinchester in either of those categories. With regards to Kenwyne, he still have to deliver the goods to be considered capable.
I should have mentioned Glen as one of the few "capable" strikers we have, but anybody else is stretching it. Although I think DR is a good player he has not been given a chance to show his worth, so the verdict is still out.
De bottom line is we have different views on our selection strategy...you think the youths should be given a chance while we throw way de experienced players and I think that with a dearth of talented players and no development program we can't afford to discard the senior players who can still contribute. And dat difference of opinion is all good with me... I was just confused about your view of giving de youths a chance but yet wanting Whitley on de team.
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Well I'd like to add another dimension because I believe we are all describing a Stern john who is now older, slower, and out of contract; which in today's game means not fit which is still different from match fit. So to say that Stern, because of past achievements are a better option than some of these players named i.e DR, KJ, CG, could be a stretch. Yorke, who was fit at the time of re-entry was still not capable of going and playing a forward for TnT. Stern John, who is a tried and tested warrior has less in de tank than Yorke did if only by virtue of style of play. Dis is not Eldo Stern john anymore.. dis is turn and shoot stern John. Now in contrast, Stern John is the closest to darren Bent that we have and possibly a good second half sub alongside KJ for those head downs and tap downs KJ does give. I wouldn't discard him but he surely would lose his spot if any of the younger players become efficient penalty box players. So in the end, i'd keep him around in the earlies to help train his replacement and then give him a send off worthy of "The King of Concacaf" as is rightfully deserved.
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This shouldn't even be a Stern John thread. It should be about which forwards we have who are capable of delivering the goods. Of all the names (leaving out Stern) you can possibly call at this time, no one has shown that ability for the national team other than Cornell and most recently Jorsling. Other than those two, everyone else has "potential".
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Stern John at North East Stars.
ttproleague.com
Unattached Trinidad and Tobago international and 2006 World Cup forward Stern John is currently training with Sangre Grande based TT Pro League club DIRECTV North East Stars.
The 34 year old has also been training with the T&T Mens National Team under head coach Otto Pfister and is said to be pulling himself back to playing condition having recently undergone knee surgery.
When quizzed if John is pursued by the Sangre Grande club, Stars CEO Brent Sancho told www.ttproleague.com, I wont say its a matter of us pursuing him (John) or him pursing us. Anything is possible in football.
He is training with us, continued Sancho, Johns World Cup teammate. Thats no secret. He is very good friends with Kevin (Jeffrey) and myself.
He has always supported what we are doing at North East Stars and has been a fan.
At the moment he is focused on getting himself back to full fitness. Coming off an injury such as a knee injury takes a lot of rehabilitation, but from what I see is that he is getting there.
John, T&Ts all-time top scorer with 69 goals in 109 caps, has played for a number of high profile clubs that included Coventry City, Birmingham City and Crystal Palace. He also made a name for himself in the MLS with Columbus Crew as one of the Leagues most prolific goalscorers winning the MLS Scoring Champion in 1998 and joint topscorer in 1999.
He is a player that we would be happy to have at North East Stars, added Sancho. It would be an honour to have such a player that possesses the talents of Stern and the experience that comes with him. But only the future would tell.
Last season, described by Sancho as the launching pad for DIRECTV North East Stars, the Sangre Grande club finished sixth in the Digicel Pro League Championship, won the Lucozade Sport Goal Shield and reached the Final of the Toyota Classic and FA Trophy.
And a player of Stern Johns caliber could weigh in favour of Stars goal this season.
Our goal is a defined one this season, explained Sancho. We want to finish in the top two. We want to improve on last season, which was really our launching pad. And we would need a good mixture of players with quality and experience.
Sancho also revealed that the club has interests in a few foreign players which includes a goalkeeper but preferred not to reveal names. However he was open to say that the players have Gold Cup experience.
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everybody quiet on this one....hmphhh
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everybody quiet on this one....hmphhh
For real....that real shocking.
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everybody quiet on this one....hmphhh
I am just looking at this from the point of view that if NE Stars picks him up,it will just add some star power to the team,if they collect gates that should improve,it will also do the same for Pro League.
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Just were you belong Stern John.
Expect to see the next Stooges there to, Kelvin Jack.
These men want millions for playing for their country.
What a joke.
Then Hasley Crawford, Ato Boldon, Janelle Penny, Richard Thompson etc, should get millions too.
North East Stars don't even have a home field and I will make sure of that.
Jack will raise again.
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As usual Mr Horner, you have an element of truth in your lunatic rants. The players didn't want millions for playing for their country, they would have been happy with, say TT$50,000 each for playing in the world cup finals (which would have made them easily the worst paid squad of the 32 in Germany)
What happened was greed, stupidity and disrespect. If your bitchboy wasn't greedy and decitful, he would have agreed a structured deal before they travelled (as any normal person would have done). Instead, he randomly said 30% (believing the players would never know how much revenue LOC achieved and with no intentions of supplying the truth). He then increased it to 50% which may have seemed generous, but he already knew that all he had to do was adjust the topline figure down, after all 50% of 2 million is almost the same as 30% of 3 million.
Unfortunately for your boy, he didn't factor in that one or two of these guys were intelligent and had balls. So when Jack made the incredibly stupid mistake of preparing false accounts, his lack of respect became his biggest downfall. They probably would have accepted $50, 000 each, which still would have left Jack with enough to build a new hotel, but no idiot would believe there was less than $5,000 each.
This first set of accounts is still haunting your boy. It was submitted as evidence in court, and therefore cannot now be denied. Its proof of many laws broken, including tax fraud, misappropriation of funds, perjury, and possibly, theft.
Now the players do want millions for playing for their country.
Of course people like Hasely Crawford performed in times when big money (and big corruption) didn't really exist, so theres not much you can do there. Richard Thompson and the new breed of athletes must work with their agents and association to attract the money they deserve.
But what about Jack? You say its a joke that players want millions, yet you don't seem to address the point that an ex school teacher has made 10s of millions off the back of T&T footballers and supporters for 30 years. Thats ok with you? The man never kicked a ball or trained for hours in the hot sun, yet he has more money than all footballers combined.
I don't know who you are, but its clear you're here just to set a fire. Unfortunately for you, this forum doesn't have to make up untruths or make mispelt antagonistic comments because people here know the truth about your boy.
You complained in another thread about people making offensive comments. Frankly, every single comment you have made has been offensive. So, Horner, man up and tell us who you are. You lie about spending $200,000 per week and you are a coward for spouting crap and hiding behind a nom de plume.
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Just were you belong Stern John.
Expect to see the next Stooges there to, Kelvin Jack.
These men want millions for playing for their country.
What a joke.
Then Hasley Crawford, Ato Boldon, Janelle Penny, Richard Thompson etc, should get millions too.
North East Stars don't even have a home field and I will make sure of that.
Jack will raise again.
like you didnt meet me yet so here we go
I answering to your 1st 4 sentences
I dont who you are or what relation you have to Jack but listen up f**kface, whoever Warner is to you that same Stern John you talking about, those 5 hex goals put millions and millions in jack pocket, and as for Kelvin , those fingernails in the 96th minute rewarded Warner with millions and millions...
have some f**king respect for the real hero's of Trinidad Football... not your boss/uncle/father/whothef**kever
Come to the sweat on the 7th...see if you have so much f**king talk then
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like you didnt meet me yet so here we go
I answering to your 1st 4 sentences
I dont who you are or what relation you have to Jack but listen up f**kface, whoever Warner is to you that same Stern John you talking about, those 5 hex goals put millions and millions in jack pocket, and as for Kelvin , those fingernails in the 96th minute rewarded Warner with millions and millions...
have some f**king respect for the real hero's of Trinidad Football... not your boss/uncle/father/whothef**kever
Come to the sweat on the 7th...see if you have so much f**king talk then
I will not get sucked into this BS, I am a big man.
Jack paid millions out of his pocket in the first place, if he didn't do that Stern John or Kelvin Jack could do a thing for T&T.
Who paid for the team to go Bahrain, Mexico, USA, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama without even knowing if they going to a World Cup and this happening years now.
Without international football these players career would have never been. And it was proven after the WC all the court case players were unemployed.
Jack will raise again.
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As usual Mr Horner, you have an element of truth in your lunatic rants. The players didn't want millions for playing for their country, they would have been happy with, say TT$50,000 each for playing in the world cup finals (which would have made them easily the worst paid squad of the 32 in Germany)
What happened was greed, stupidity and disrespect. If your bitchboy wasn't greedy and decitful, he would have agreed a structured deal before they travelled (as any normal person would have done). Instead, he randomly said 30% (believing the players would never know how much revenue LOC achieved and with no intentions of supplying the truth). He then increased it to 50% which may have seemed generous, but he already knew that all he had to do was adjust the topline figure down, after all 50% of 2 million is almost the same as 30% of 3 million.
Unfortunately for your boy, he didn't factor in that one or two of these guys were intelligent and had balls. So when Jack made the incredibly stupid mistake of preparing false accounts, his lack of respect became his biggest downfall. They probably would have accepted $50, 000 each, which still would have left Jack with enough to build a new hotel, but no idiot would believe there was less than $5,000 each.
This first set of accounts is still haunting your boy. It was submitted as evidence in court, and therefore cannot now be denied. Its proof of many laws broken, including tax fraud, misappropriation of funds, perjury, and possibly, theft.
Now the players do want millions for playing for their country.
Of course people like Hasely Crawford performed in times when big money (and big corruption) didn't really exist, so theres not much you can do there. Richard Thompson and the new breed of athletes must work with their agents and association to attract the money they deserve.
But what about Jack? You say its a joke that players want millions, yet you don't seem to address the point that an ex school teacher has made 10s of millions off the back of T&T footballers and supporters for 30 years. Thats ok with you? The man never kicked a ball or trained for hours in the hot sun, yet he has more money than all footballers combined.
I don't know who you are, but its clear you're here just to set a fire. Unfortunately for you, this forum doesn't have to make up untruths or make mispelt antagonistic comments because people here know the truth about your boy.
You complained in another thread about people making offensive comments. Frankly, every single comment you have made has been offensive. So, Horner, man up and tell us who you are. You lie about spending $200,000 per week and you are a coward for spouting crap and hiding behind a nom de plume.
I will guarentee you one thing, nothing will come out of this court case, wait and see.
Jack will raise again.
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I will guarentee you one thing, nothing will come out of this court case, wait and see.
Jack will raise again.
Listen, I like to be entertained properly. Please use this quote at the end of your posts instead,
"Jack will rise again".....it sounds better.
And use the exclamation marks all de time nah, yuh not consistent in that regard and it irritating me. So the end of your posts should read
"Jack will rise again!!!"
Got it?? Carry on.....ah enjoying yuh posts man.....
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Just read in another thread of the passing of Stern John's mother...I just wanted to extend my condolences to him and his family in their time of grief.
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Very sad news. Condolences to Stern and family
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Sad day for him. My condolences go out to him and his family.
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Score a hattrick for your Mom today Stern...
Pelt blade on them.
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Please accept my sympathies Stern if you can see this or that it can be passed on .... extended also to family members ..Mark Burns , sorfie, billy , albert etc. and the john family ..
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Condolences to Stern and family
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condolences... from The Magicians
14
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Condolences. Take care of and comfort your family. Football comes afterward.
Let's hope we don't need him.
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Condolences my brother!! Buss de next for mums
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ah love it!!
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Sad...Condolences to Stern and his family...Sad new!!
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From d sw.net family stay strong
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condolenses to my boi stern.. Stern putting on a columbian display today .. watch N see he bussing di net 3 times.. war say so..
war
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Condolences To Stern John and family. Very Sad news. stay strong in this trying time.
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Very sad news. Condolences to Stern and family
Same here.
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Condolences to you and your family in this time of grief.
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Condolences to Stern and all his family!!
Real sorry to hear this sad news!! :(
Not sure we should expect him to want to play today given the circumstances but it's down to him!
There are some things more important in life than football and this is one of them!
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Condolences, Stern, to you and to your family. God bless......
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Condolences to u and your entire family.
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My Condolences to you and your entire family.
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Condolenses to stern and his family ... jeeezzz!!!!
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Condolences to Stern and family
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My Deepest condolences...Stay strong bro.
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Sincerest Condolences Stern. Yuh made her proud....continue to keep it up.
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Condolences to Stern and his family! Especially sad news at this time!
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Condolences to the entire Family. Our prayers are with you at this time. Score one for the lady.
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My sincerest sympathies Stern....Now self you have to start today in honor of your mom.
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Condolences to the John family.
VB
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Stay strong Stern. If you play today, or if you dont play, we supporting you full hundred
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Condolences to Stern and his family! Especially sad news at this time!
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Condolences to Stern and family.
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Just read in another thread of the passing of Stern John's mother...I just wanted to extend my condolences to him and his family in their time of grief.
my condolences :beermug:
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Condolences to Stern abd the rest of the family. RIP ma'am.
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Condolences to Stern and family
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Condolences to Stern and family
Sad news, condolences to Stern and family.
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Condolences to Stern and the family.
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Very sad indeed a true patriot my condolences to stern and his family may your mother rest in peace...
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Stern and family: I don't know you but as a footballer you have endeared us all and made Trinis everywhere proud. Our hearts and prayers are with you and your family during this time of grief. Blessings brother!
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Condolences to you stern , May you find strenght as you put the nation first before self at this very difficult time !
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Condolences to the John family and Stern
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Thoughts and prayers go out to Stern and family :(
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My sincerest condolences to SJ and his family during this time of loss.
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Ahhh damnn...Sincerest condolences to Legend 14 and family. The SW.net family extends the prayers to you and yours in your time of grief.
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Condolences to yourself and your family.
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I would like to offer my condolences to the John family.
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Stern score one for your Mum. May she rest in peace.
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Stern condolences to you and de family. Stay strong.
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Condolences
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Cannot be an easy thing... sincere condolences, and prayers for guidance and support.
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condolences :( :'(
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condolences to Stern and his family
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Stern Johns mom passes away
ttproleague.com
One day before kicking off Trinidad and Tobagos World Cup 2014 Brazil campaign against Bermuda at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on Friday 9 September, striker Stern John received devastating news on the death of his mom Janet Jenny Burns.
The 72 year old Burns who had been ailing for sometime, passed away at her home in Trincity on Thursday night, while John was in a live-in team camp ahead on Fridays match.
When I got the news I was devastated as well, said DIRECTV North East Stars Director of Football Kevin Jeffrey.
Stern and I grew up from age 12 to 19 and we used to spend a lot of time together, so obviously the passing of his mom would be tough for me to accept as well although I know she was ailing for sometime now.
Jenny and I used to talk a lot, continued Jeffrey a former footballer and also a resident of Trincity. She used to talk to me a lot about life, as well and things that she experienced things that benefitted me today.
Kevin believes that Stern will score against Bermuda, once he is used by T&T head coach Otto Pfister.
Jenny would want him to play and he would want to score for his mom, added Jeffrey. He was always close to his mom and she supported him fully, especially in his football and thats why he became the player that he is today.
Stern, a former Coventry City and Birmingham striker joined North East during the pre-season and is expected to be a major pawn in the Sangre Grande clubs aspirations this season.
We at North East Stars express deepest condolences to stern and his family. And anything that they would need, we would be there for them, ended Jeffrey.
Two weeks ago the 34 yearold Stern John became the fifth highest all-time international goalscorer behind Irans Ali Daei (109), Hungarys Ferenc Puskas (84), Brazils Pele (77), and the pairing of Kuwaits Bashar Abdullah and Hungarys Sandor Kocsis (75) after netting his 70th goal in 110 internationals for T&T when he converted from the penalty spot against visiting India in a friendly international.
On behalf of the League Board of Directors, Chairman, CEO, staff, clubs and officials of the TT Pro League, we extend condolences to the Stern John and family and friends of Janet Burns.
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My concern is dat our football became like our cricket where we keep playing the ole guys dem till dey cya go no more and not gaving di yute dem a bligh. I could see if John scoring rell goal and ting but di man shitting dung himself in frnt of goal. Dat barbados game scoreline should have been 7-0 easy .. Now not because shakes score for Guyana I mentioning his name here. Di yute is young we should have gaven him a try.. Our country and pool of players for we to be making style obn players who willing to represent for us.. Look at Jamal why he not on di squad.. Gave di yute dem a try Stern.. I thank you for what Yu did for our country but is full time yu hang di boots up...
come against Guyan I eh wah see John on dat field I eh even wah see him on di bench.. I still think bout he freeking against El salvador last campaign .. he sour it ..
war
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My concern is dat our football became like our cricket where we keep playing the ole guys dem till dey cya go no more and not gaving di yute dem a bligh. I could see if John scoring rell goal and ting but di man shitting dung himself in frnt of goal. Dat barbados game scoreline should have been 7-0 easy .. Now not because shakes score for Guyana I mentioning his name here. Di yute is young we should have gaven him a try.. Our country and pool of players for we to be making style obn players who willing to represent for us.. Look at Jamal why he not on di squad.. Gave di yute dem a try Stern.. I thank you for what Yu did for our country but is full time yu hang di boots up...
come against Guyan I eh wah see John on dat field I eh even wah see him on di bench.. I still think bout he freeking against El salvador last campaign .. he sour it ..
war
cant get over that myself
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Did u see what Pfister said about Stern John in his post match interview?
I agree wit u here, i was not impressed with Stern's play, but it has to count for someting that a man of Pfister's experience wants Stern in the side.
ps: The same way u cant get over El Salvador in 2009, i hope u cant get over Guatemala and Mexico in 2005
ah love it!!
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Did u see what Pfister said about Stern John in his post match interview?
I agree wit u here, i was not impressed with Stern's play, but it has to count for someting that a man of Pfister's experience wants Stern in the side.
ps: The same way u cant get over El Salvador in 2009, i hope u cant get over Guatemala and Mexico in 2005ah love it!!
Yuh right... I cant get over him cussing us either :cursing:
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Did u see what Pfister said about Stern John in his post match interview?
I agree wit u here, i was not impressed with Stern's play, but it has to count for someting that a man of Pfister's experience wants Stern in the side.
ps: The same way u cant get over El Salvador in 2009, i hope u cant get over Guatemala and Mexico in 2005
ah love it!!
Trust me star I cya get over di Guatemala game .. Me and my bortoher was di two only Trinidadians In the sports bar. Di Bar was completely fill with guatemalans and there ppl.. No Joke thing star i WATCH MI BACK ALL DI WAY TO MY CAR CAUSE MI HEAD WAS NICE AND I CUSS DEM GUATEMALIANS FRM ASIDE AND WAS SERIOUS THUNDER WHEN WE SCORE TWO IN DI DIEING MOMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
war
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Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
ctntworld.com
National footballer Stern John is to appear in court on Monday after he was arrested and charged for breaching the 11pm to 4am curfew.
According to reports, John, who is this country's leading goal scorer, was standing on the compound of Motor One Insurance at the corner of Ariapita Avenue and French Street on Saturday night when he was questioned by police officers on patrol.
It was discovered that he was not in possession of a Curfew Permit which would allow him to be outside during the curfew hours. He was then taken to the Woodbrook Police Station where he was charged by Corporal Benjamin of the E-999 unit for breaching the curfew.
John was granted bail and will appear before a Port of Spain Magistrate on Monday.
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steups...Big criminal, they never charge him for aborting all dem goals now he get charge for liming???
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FROM SOCAWARRIORS ON FB
The National team and staff stands by its captain Stern John following his arrest on Saturday night for allegedly breaking the curfew, John at 10:50pm was spotted by E 999 patrol unit on the corner of Ariapita Avenue and French Street.. At the time John was in the company of a male friend and four others, the male friend shortly before suffered a head injury and was about to be taken to hospital ...by John and company The officers refused to have any of it even though the injured man was taken to hospital by a Police officer who was a friend of the group. The other persons were allowed to drive to the Woodbrook Station BUT John was the only one arrested by Corporal Benjamin and put into the police vehicle. Something does not sound right about that. They were all subsequently charged and released on bail and will appear in court on Monday
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take this one for the team stern ,ask not what the country can do for you but what you can do for the country . these are dark days tnt going true let them use you as an example .
say something like.... let this be an example ,stay at home kids the polic where just doing there job and a fine job there doing too.
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How de hell yo ugo lock up Stern? What kinda madness is that. :pissedoff:
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Stern need to explain this himself. As much as quite a few here disagree, there is a SOE in force. Mistakes happens. Why chance it?
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Sooo he was just standing there just so, just so?? Ah take he was liming but what everybody he was liming with just gone home and leave he standing there?? Stern eh know what breaking curfew is?? This story eh complete.....
On second thought these days I eh feeling like we have an emergency (not that we ever did but dais for another thread), but now that the thing waning Stern must be forget bout curfew and SOE and thing..... :-\ ???.....this story eh complete....
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How de hell yo ugo lock up Stern? What kinda madness is that. :pissedoff:
Wah kinda question is that ???
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Is about time they start arresting some ah dem big fish and dem... well-done police.
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:rotfl:
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National footballer Stern John is to appear in court on Monday after he was arrested and charged for breaching the 11pm to 4am curfew.
John at 10:50pm was spotted by E 999 patrol unit on the corner of Ariapita Avenue and French Street..
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Anyway who would bust Stern? I wonder if J.W. Alleyne is on E 999 patrol unit...it would explain Stern's friend's head.
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MAN WID DE GOLDEN GUN?? :joker: :heehee: allyuh ole fellas soooo full ah sh!t it eh funny, or should i say, tooo funny! man wid de golden gun meh rass. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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I have ah strong suspicion that stern talk outa timin and get locked up. i suppose the interlude went like this.
police: "eh! come boy!"
stern: "who you callin boy, like allyuh eh know who allyuh talking too ahought."
p:"who's you boy, like yuh eh know is curfew and yuh eh suppose tuh be out after eleven?" flash lights fixed in stern eye and guns @ the ready.
S:"eh take dah MDCNT light out meh face nah boy, wham allyuh losing allyuh f#$%NG head ahought!"
P: "eh stern pardner dais you boy? why yuh din say so when we pull up, then we woulda just geh yuh ah ride tuh de crib no questions asked".
S: stuueeepppssss weh allyuh does come out from boy, like allyuh eh hah nutten better tuh do dan tuh harrass good ppl, like allyuh cyar see i on ah scene?" "allyuh real outa timin boy, just when i lookin tuh pull dis ting and carry she in the hole, allyuh pull up and spoil de play."
P: "stern, we know yuhs ah saltfish and ah big public figur, buh doh lose yuh head borse! we still runnin tings so respect due!"
S: "boy, allyuh eh doin me nutten boy! i iz stern bung tuh score john, every buddy know me, i iz de legend."
P: "yuhs de whooo, legen??!! well legen this han cuff." click clack!
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stern offside ahgaiiin?
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How de hell yo ugo lock up Stern? What kinda madness is that. :pissedoff:
Are U for real???
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stern offside ahgaiiin?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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LOL
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Oh lord, Ah laugh too much. Ah think ah go need a phensic yes!
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Some perspective here......Stern was presenting trophies today at a Breat Cancer awareness womens football tournament at UWI. So, whatever his personal situation, he still maintained his professional commitment.
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How de hell yo ugo lock up Stern? What kinda madness is that. :pissedoff:
I thought he was locked by Barbados defence on the 11 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium,getting lock up twice in less than a week could give Stern a Criminal Record.
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Stern John charged with breaking curfew
By Akile Simon (T&T Express)
Veteran Trinidad and Tobago national footballer Stern John and an attorney were among five people arrested by police in Woodbrook for an alleged breach of curfew.
John, 34, attorney Denisha Mayers, 35, Emmanuel Hyacinth, 27, Atersa Humphrey, 25, and his sister Terry Ann Humphrey, 31, were arrested by police at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook around 11.30 p.m. on Saturday.
But there has been confusion among senior and junior police officers over the decision to charge John and the other four accused with the offence since they were reportedly in the yard of Motor One Insurance which is at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook.
The Express was reliably informed that junior officers had contacted several First Division officers seeking advice on the matter after they were instructed by an Inspector to detain and charge the suspects.
A police source said the First Division officers advised that no charges should be pursued against those detained since, at the time of their arrest, they were in a compound which is secured by a wall and gate, but charges were still laid against the accused.
They were subsequently granted their own bail while in custody at the Woodbrook and Belmont police stations and told to appear in the Port of Spain Magistrates' Court at 9 a.m. today to answer the charge.
One of the accused was slapped with an additional charge of using obscene language.
The charges against John and the others were laid by a police officer assigned to the E-999 Patrol and Response Unit.
And ten other people, among them six women, are also expected to appear before a Port of Spain Magistrate today charged with breach of the curfew.
The suspects were arrested by police in front of Four Roads Police Station late on Saturday night during a roadblock.
Officers said they realised there were several vehicles on the road after curfew hours and decided to conduct a roadblock when they held the suspects.
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National footballer Stern John is to appear in court on Monday after he was arrested and charged for breaching the 11pm to 4am curfew.
John at 10:50pm was spotted by E 999 patrol unit on the corner of Ariapita Avenue and French Street..
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I guess the police thinking that unless he living on the compound of Motor One or he living around the corner from Motor One, he eh reaching home before 11..... :-\
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Wait fuh de slap in de face. Dis gehhin kicked to de curb .... Pun intended.
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Appsaahhh....d man want to outdo Carlos or wha :rotfl:
But under seriousness...Motor One is a business place...is a insurance company actually, not a restaurant, bar, house etc. So unless one of the people with Stern working there. Police must find it suspicious that people in the yard...and the yard small too.
They lucky they ent get a tresspassing charge in they tail.
Further is 10:50 another report had...is level hotel and guest house and 1star in the area, it not hard for people to find a hole with 10min to go.
Also I am sure the junior officers know who he was and made the call to the senior ones just to clarify and the seniors pull rank and say yeah deal with him.
But yuh know what...the law is the law, so be it. Although I find the circumstances fishy in truth.
Just like Carlos, Stern musbe had an excuse to be where he was with the company he was in and a man had to go hospital. It would be nice to hear his side of the story.
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I like this Forum. We can take a serious thing and make a joke out of it.
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MAN WID DE GOLDEN GUN?? :joker: :heehee: allyuh ole fellas soooo full ah sh!t it eh funny, or should i say, tooo funny! man wid de golden gun meh rass. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Ask yuh girl about de gun...but she eh go say nutten to you in trute...Silence is Golden and besides she eh go talk with she mout full...yuh know...she have manners...and all.
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Appsaahhh....d man want to outdo Carlos or wha :rotfl:
But under seriousness...Motor One is a business place...is a insurance company actually, not a restaurant, bar, house etc. So unless one of the people with Stern working there. Police must find it suspicious that people in the yard...and the yard small too.
They lucky they ent get a tresspassing charge in they tail.
Further is 10:50 another report had...is level hotel and guest house and 1star in the area, it not hard for people to find a hole with 10min to go.
Also I am sure the junior officers know who he was and made the call to the senior ones just to clarify and the seniors pull rank and say yeah deal with him.
But yuh know what...the law is the law, so be it. Although I find the circumstances fishy in truth.
Just like Carlos, Stern musbe had an excuse to be where he was with the company he was in and a man had to go hospital. It would be nice to hear his side of the story.
If one's presence on property is privileged, no issue of trespass arises. Privilege could apply even beyond one of the parties being in an employer-employee relationship.
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Stern John charged with breaking curfew
By Akile Simon (T&T Express)
Veteran Trinidad and Tobago national footballer Stern John and an attorney were among five people arrested by police in Woodbrook for an alleged breach of curfew.
John, 34, attorney Denisha Mayers, 35, Emmanuel Hyacinth, 27, Atersa Humphrey, 25, and his sister Terry Ann Humphrey, 31, were arrested by police at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook around 11.30 p.m. on Saturday.
But there has been confusion among senior and junior police officers over the decision to charge John and the other four accused with the offence since they were reportedly in the yard of Motor One Insurance which is at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook.
The Express was reliably informed that junior officers had contacted several First Division officers seeking advice on the matter after they were instructed by an Inspector to detain and charge the suspects.
A police source said the First Division officers advised that no charges should be pursued against those detained since, at the time of their arrest, they were in a compound which is secured by a wall and gate, but charges were still laid against the accused.
They were subsequently granted their own bail while in custody at the Woodbrook and Belmont police stations and told to appear in the Port of Spain Magistrates' Court at 9 a.m. today to answer the charge.
One of the accused was slapped with an additional charge of using obscene language.
The charges against John and the others were laid by a police officer assigned to the E-999 Patrol and Response Unit.
And ten other people, among them six women, are also expected to appear before a Port of Spain Magistrate today charged with breach of the curfew.
The suspects were arrested by police in front of Four Roads Police Station late on Saturday night during a roadblock.
Officers said they realised there were several vehicles on the road after curfew hours and decided to conduct a roadblock when they held the suspects.
What is the point of this curfew really? ???
Is Stern supposed to be a gang leader and a big fish now?!!
How much longer are people in T&T prepared to put up with this unnecessary dotishness by the government called a SOE?! :-\
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Motor One car park does be open after business hours for use by the casino next door not so? (Xante)
I doubting that 10:50 report, cause if that was true he coulda simply say he was going into the casino and base it there as they does be open all night during curfew hours.
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Stern John in court
ctntworld.com
National footballer Stern John and attorney Denisha Mayers appeared in court on Monday charged with breaching curfew.
The two appeared along with Terysa and Terri-ann Humphrey at the Port of Spain Magistrates Court.
The four have been charged with breaching curfew on Saturday after they were found at French Street, Woodbrook without Curfew Permits.
John and the others were represented by attorney Keith Scotland.
They were each granted $1,000 bail by Chief Magistrate Marcia Ayers-Caesar and will reappear in court on December 14th.
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TTPS probes Stern John's weekend bail
ctntworld.com
The Police Service has launched an investigation into the granting of bail to national footballer Stern John over the weekend.
John and three others were charged for breaching the curfew on Saturday night. However, he was granted bail the following day, even though he did not appear before Chief Magistrate Marcia Ayers-Caesar until Monday to answer the charge. All four were then granted an additional $1,000 bail each by Chief Magistrate Marcia Ayers-Caesar and ordered to reappear in court on December 14th.
Questioned on this at Tuesday's Police Press Briefing on the State of Emergency, Ms Sharon Lee Assang of the TTPS said, "Generally under the SoE you are supposed to go before a Magistrate and the Magistrate fixes bail. That is a question we would like to know so an investigation has been launched into that. It is receiving close attention."
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Nice to see police devoting so much resources to such a matter of national importance. If only they'd crack down on all the other "big fish" curfew violators then god knows how much safer the country will be.
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All this is so stupid. It's high time they end this curfew.
I wouldn't be suprised if some Police man who was feeling special decided it would look sooo cool if he arrest Stern John. it probably wasn't even 11 yet as Stern said. So when they got to the station and his seniors realised the Police officer was an idiot they tried to cover thier tracks and let him out on bail.
And even if that is not the case, I don't care. Everyone knows he isn't any criminal. They can't even hold and keep the actual criminals... big fish and small fish alike. So what are they trying to prove by holding someone who has been awarded for thier sevice to the country and everyone know has a clean background.
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All this is so stupid. It's high time they end this curfew.
I wouldn't be suprised if some Police man who was feeling special decided it would look sooo cool if he arrest Stern John. it probably wasn't even 11 yet as Stern said. So when they got to the station and his seniors realised the Police officer was an idiot they tried to cover thier tracks and let him out on bail.
And even if that is not the case, I don't care. Everyone knows he isn't any criminal. They can't even hold and keep the actual criminals... big fish and small fish alike. So what are they trying to prove by holding someone who has been awarded for thier sevice to the country and everyone know has a clean background.
Plus man (one of our football heroes btw) just lost his Mum & is trying to get over that!
This incident proves two things to me:-
1. Its way overdue for this senseless unnecessary curfew to end as no big fish who bring in the drugs and weapons and encouraging gang warfare getting hold anytime soon.
2. We have a lot of idiots in our T&T police force who on a power tripping thing but have little interest in actually catching real criminals (that is too much hard work for them posers).
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Is Stern supposed to be a gang leader and a big fish now?!!
If he really was breaking curfew, i dont see what the problem with him being arrested, i didn't know footballer exempt from the law. Police launch investigation on how he get bail and using the magistrates underground car park to get away from the media which is not for public. Rules of law cant be for certain people only.
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Is Stern supposed to be a gang leader and a big fish now?!!
If he really was breaking curfew, i dont see what the problem with him being arrested, i didn't know footballer exempt from the law. Police launch investigation on how he get bail and using the magistrates underground car park to get away from the media which is not for public. Rules of law cant be for certain people only.
I think you have been bamboozled!
Try to untangle yuhself by asking yourself this!
What is the purpose of this curfew?
If yuh cant work out the answer then fear not because both you and the PP government are in the very same position!
In other words this curfew and as a consequence Stern's arrest is pure :bs:
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Is Stern supposed to be a gang leader and a big fish now?!!
If he really was breaking curfew, i dont see what the problem with him being arrested, i didn't know footballer exempt from the law. Police launch investigation on how he get bail and using the magistrates underground car park to get away from the media which is not for public. Rules of law cant be for certain people only.
I think you have been bamboozled!
Try to untangle yuhself by asking yourself this!
What is the purpose of this curfew?
If yuh cant work out the answer then fear not because both you and the PP government are in the very same position!
In other words this curfew and as a consequence Stern's arrest is pure :bs:
What the purpose of the curfew have to do with anything? If the man was actually breaking curfew then he has to with the deal law. Let the courts decide that. What politics have to do with this? Im not hear to debate whether the curfew good or not.
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What the purpose of the curfew have to do with anything? If the man was actually breaking curfew then he has to with the deal law. Let the courts decide that. What politics have to do with this? Im not hear to debate whether the curfew good or not.
You talking shit... police have discretion in enforcing the curfew. This was supposedly an emergency where one of the group suffered a head wound. Police take the wounded man to the hospital and arrest the others in the group (based on reports) this makes sense to you? There is recent precedent where people going to the hospital etc. were just warned and sent on their way or otherwise allowed to proceed. Like Socapro say, you getting bamboozled.
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Some people have lost their minds, justifying all sorts of non-sense in the name of political affiliation. The kind of answers I see for TV6 people meter makes me worried for this country.
This country is filled with a bunch of "Four legs good, two legs bad" people. No thinkers, only sheep.
I'm sorry but if Stern John is biggest name you worried about getting released then this is just a joke. Don't waste people time investigating how he made bail... check out why police officers can't seem to build a case against these gang members and don't even seem to know the parameters they operating under. When they arrested those people, they didn't know they needed evidence that admissible by law, they didn't think to secure victims who are willing to testify against them.
If they can't prosecute all they are doing is sending out criminals with a grudge, and the ones who are innocent now getting hardened in prison and becoming criminals.
So I don't want to hear any crap about Stern John being released on bail.... for something he probably shouldn't have been arrested for. I want to know about gang members being released. The fact the people who bringing in cocaine still out there. No cocaine bust, only marijuana... all this is a big ole show. But don't worry, just now the Union bargaining time running out so maybe they'll end it then.... or who knows, maybe we'll be in a perpetual state of emergency, and never call an election.
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Some people have lost their minds, justifying all sorts of non-sense in the name of political affiliation. The kind of answers I see for TV6 people meter makes me worried for this country.
This country is filled with a bunch of "Four legs good, two legs bad" people. No thinkers, only sheep.
I'm sorry but if Stern John is biggest name you worried about getting released then this is just a joke. Don't waste people time investigating how he made bail... check out why police officers can't seem to build a case against these gang members and don't even seem to know the parameters they operating under. When they arrested those people, they didn't know they needed evidence that admissible by law, they didn't think to secure victims who are willing to testify against them.
If they can't prosecute all they are doing is sending out criminals with a grudge, and the ones who are innocent now getting hardened in prison and becoming criminals.
So I don't want to hear any crap about Stern John being released on bail.... for something he probably shouldn't have been arrested for. I want to know about gang members being released. The fact the people who bringing in cocaine still out there. No cocaine bust, only marijuana... all this is a big ole show. But don't worry, just now the Union bargaining time running out so maybe they'll end it then.... or who knows, maybe we'll be in a perpetual state of emergency, and never call an election.
Thank you very much!!
I can't believe that my Trini people who vote in those regular TV6 Polls could be that gullible?
Must be university students/bloggers who have been paid to show support for the PP government who have been voting the majority of times in those polls!
If those are ordinary T&T citizens who voting then T&T deserves all that it is getting from this PP government because the average citizen no longer knows how to use their brain and think for themselves!
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Some people have lost their minds, justifying all sorts of non-sense in the name of political affiliation. The kind of answers I see for TV6 people meter makes me worried for this country.
This country is filled with a bunch of "Four legs good, two legs bad" people. No thinkers, only sheep.
I'm sorry but if Stern John is biggest name you worried about getting released then this is just a joke. Don't waste people time investigating how he made bail... check out why police officers can't seem to build a case against these gang members and don't even seem to know the parameters they operating under. When they arrested those people, they didn't know they needed evidence that admissible by law, they didn't think to secure victims who are willing to testify against them.
If they can't prosecute all they are doing is sending out criminals with a grudge, and the ones who are innocent now getting hardened in prison and becoming criminals.
So I don't want to hear any crap about Stern John being released on bail.... for something he probably shouldn't have been arrested for. I want to know about gang members being released. The fact the people who bringing in cocaine still out there. No cocaine bust, only marijuana... all this is a big ole show. But don't worry, just now the Union bargaining time running out so maybe they'll end it then.... or who knows, maybe we'll be in a perpetual state of emergency, and never call an election.
Thank you very much!!
I can't believe that my Trini people who vote in those regular TV6 Polls could be that gullible?
Must be university students/bloggers who have been paid to show support for the PP government who have been voting the majority of times in those polls!
If those are ordinary T&T citizens who voting then T&T deserves all that it is getting from this PP government because the average citizen no longer knows how to use their brain and think for themselves!
well daiz y we have guys like u to do the thinking for us ;)
I agree with allyuh the curfew eh make sense anymore, but for now it still in place and just cause u name stern john doh mean u cud break curfew. Imagine 5 ppl carrying they pardner to the hospital....steups. All a dem went to lime in a bus a what? Nice example he setting by the way.......
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Some people have lost their minds, justifying all sorts of non-sense in the name of political affiliation. The kind of answers I see for TV6 people meter makes me worried for this country.
This country is filled with a bunch of "Four legs good, two legs bad" people. No thinkers, only sheep.
I'm sorry but if Stern John is biggest name you worried about getting released then this is just a joke. Don't waste people time investigating how he made bail... check out why police officers can't seem to build a case against these gang members and don't even seem to know the parameters they operating under. When they arrested those people, they didn't know they needed evidence that admissible by law, they didn't think to secure victims who are willing to testify against them.
If they can't prosecute all they are doing is sending out criminals with a grudge, and the ones who are innocent now getting hardened in prison and becoming criminals.
So I don't want to hear any crap about Stern John being released on bail.... for something he probably shouldn't have been arrested for. I want to know about gang members being released. The fact the people who bringing in cocaine still out there. No cocaine bust, only marijuana... all this is a big ole show. But don't worry, just now the Union bargaining time running out so maybe they'll end it then.... or who knows, maybe we'll be in a perpetual state of emergency, and never call an election.
Thank you very much!!
I can't believe that my Trini people who vote in those regular TV6 Polls could be that gullible?
Must be university students/bloggers who have been paid to show support for the PP government who have been voting the majority of times in those polls!
If those are ordinary T&T citizens who voting then T&T deserves all that it is getting from this PP government because the average citizen no longer knows how to use their brain and think for themselves!
well daiz y we have guys like u to do the thinking for us ;)
I agree with allyuh the curfew eh make sense anymore, but for now it still in place and just cause u name stern john doh mean u cud break curfew. Imagine 5 ppl carrying they pardner to the hospital....steups. All a dem went to lime in a bus a what? Nice example he setting by the way.......
So lets try to understand you; you're in agreement with this SOE and the use of it to restrict innocent citizens from travelling from A to B or having a lime with no BIG fish being targeted and arrested because that is the law?
Maybe you were also one of those who agreed with Apartheid in South Africa while it was happening simply because it was the law there at the time and folks must always obey the law!
So much for logic and peoples basic human rights, a police officer should not have enough common sense to use his discretion because Stern is a criminal who has no respect for the law!
I see!! :-[
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Ian Alleyne spoke about this on CrimeWatch last night. He first said Stern John is some footballer, but he hadn't heard of him. Then he said that Stern should not have got bail. Then he said Stern should not have been allowed to park in the underground car park. Alleyne went into a rant about the law should apply to everyone and there should be no VIP exceptions. He said if he was arrested, he would be made to walk along the highway to prison.
Ian Alleyne is really getting too big for his boots. CrimeWatch is becoming more and more jokey and off topic. He's now filming dead bodies at accidents while chuckling with police.
I agree, the law applies to everyone, but is it Sterns fault that people give him a bligh? He didn't know he couldn't park in the underground car park. He did nothing wrong there except benefit from his celebrity. I bet Ian Alleyne queue jumps all over the country, but I guess thats ok as he's Commissioner for Free.
Well, Mr Alleyne, I have some advice for you in the form of cliches.
When in glass houses, do not throw stones. Reap what you sow. Don't hurt up yuh head, Mr Alleyne. You are not a policeman. You cannot ignore the laws of T&T. So if you are so keen to hang everyone for every small thing, then ok, so be it. I advise you to hand yourself in to Sergeant Alexander and ask Om Lalla to represent you, because I have evidence of you breaking the law.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=51516.msg766709#msg766709
Check around 11 mins and spot the crime.
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Well, Mr Alleyne, I have some advice for you in the form of cliches.
When in glass houses, do not throw stones. Reap what you sow. Don't hurt up yuh head, Mr Alleyne. You are not a policeman. You cannot ignore the laws of T&T. So if you are so keen to hang everyone for every small thing, then ok, so be it. I advise you to hand yourself in to Sergeant Alexander and ask Om Lalla to represent you, because I have evidence of you breaking the law.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=51516.msg766709#msg766709
Check around 11 mins and spot the crime.
Ian Alleyne has used his mobile phone while driving and broken the law publicly on national tv on more than one occasion, that was not the first time!
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Well, Mr Alleyne, I have some advice for you in the form of cliches.
When in glass houses, do not throw stones. Reap what you sow. Don't hurt up yuh head, Mr Alleyne. You are not a policeman. You cannot ignore the laws of T&T. So if you are so keen to hang everyone for every small thing, then ok, so be it. I advise you to hand yourself in to Sergeant Alexander and ask Om Lalla to represent you, because I have evidence of you breaking the law.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=51516.msg766709#msg766709
Check around 11 mins and spot the crime.
Ian Alleyne has used his mobile phone while driving and broken the law publicly on national tv on more than one occasion, that was not the first time!
You win the prize, Socapro!! My point is, Alleyne believes he is above the law. The govt and police are using him as their P.R. dept. I genuinely feel CrimeWatch could be an important crimefighting tool, but Alleyne is too jokey. Who ever heard of a presenter ordering the director around? And he babbles on like Pfister on viagra about his shoes getting dirty and stupid trivia. The programme could be 20 minutes of real interest. Even when he takes calls, no one gets a chance to speak. He believes he is above the law and he should be made to apologise publicly. If he insists on no one getting a bligh, then live by your own rules and go to the back of the KFC line and pay for your doubles on Ariapita.
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well daiz y we have guys like u to do the thinking for us ;)
I agree with allyuh the curfew eh make sense anymore, but for now it still in place and just cause u name stern john doh mean u cud break curfew. Imagine 5 ppl carrying they pardner to the hospital....steups. All a dem went to lime in a bus a what? Nice example he setting by the way.......
Where does it say 5 of them was taking him to the hospital? So you telling me that if you with yuh pardners and one ah dem suffer a head injury (serious enough to warrant police taking him to the hospital), you was leaving him lying down there in the parking lot and going home?
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Well it's very important the police spend time and resources finding out why that rough neck Stern John was let out on Bail... I'm sure he's going back to Nelson Street where he will continue to snatch bangs and chains and sell drugs.
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Well it's very important the police spend time and resources finding out why that rough neck Stern John was let out on Bail... I'm sure he's going back to Nelson Street where he will continue to snatch bangs and chains and sell drugs.
:rotfl: :beermug:
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Folks I have seen the light.
U guys are right and I am wrong.
Every Celebrity, especially those who play football are entitled to break our apartheid laws and go free. How could i be so blind and irresponsible to think that these guys are below the law like us lesser mortals.
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Folks I have seen the light.
U guys are right and I am wrong.
Every Celebrity, especially those who play football are entitled to break our apartheid laws and go free. How could i be so blind and irresponsible to think that these guys are below the law like us lesser mortals.
A man tried to explain to you that certain laws can be enforced at the discretion of police officers provided that common sense comes into the equation!
Ah guess you are one of those who argues for the non-application of common sense in law enforcement!
If that is the case then I would expect the police to arrest Ian Allyene on set tonight during CrimeWatch for using his mobile phone while driving on a number of occasions and then arrogantly broadcasting that he is at liberty to break the law on national TV! Not a good example to all his fans and viewers!
Who the hell does Ian Alleyne think he is, Jack Warner? ::)
Lock up Ians ass and hit him with the maximum fine to the full extent of the law!
Let someone else who is 100% law abiding and more useful to society present CrimeWatch from now on!
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Allyuh is kicks here yes.
Imagine people arguing about the fact that there is an investigation into an apparent breach of the law by allowing Stern bail when he should not have been released.
Thats what we come to now,,,, arguing about doing the right and lawful thing.
Like the law dont mean anything anymore, no wonder the facking society the way it is in Trinidad where indiscipline and indifference rules.
Whether the SOE is warranted now or not, the law is the law, whether you like it or not, I really cant believe some of allyuh justifying bending the rules because is either a celebrity citizen or people dont agree with the SOE.
If you dont like the SOE law, then very quietly write an editorial to the newspapers and leave the country.
Fact is the man break the law, whether the officers should have let common sense prevail, well none of us were there in the situation. Suppose Stern and he crew cuss out the officers and get on wassy? U really think any officer going and let that slide? Steups.
Charge them! And take them downtown.
And Pro I expect better from you comparing the SOE laws to apartheid, steups.
Next thing you want to attack the breathlyser or seatbelt law cause it crush your shirt in getting from point A to point B.
I personally think the SOE was a great idea when it was called, but I think it is now past its usefullness.
Hopefully it will be dropped in time for my Xmas visit home! :beermug:
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Allyuh is kicks here yes.
Imagine people arguing about the fact that there is an investigation into an apparent breach of the law by allowing Stern bail when he should not have been released.
Thats what we come to now,,,, arguing about doing the right and lawful thing.
Like the law dont mean anything anymore, no wonder the facking society the way it is in Trinidad where indiscipline and indifference rules.
Whether the SOE is warranted now or not, the law is the law, whether you like it or not, I really cant believe some of allyuh justifying bending the rules because is either a celebrity citizen or people dont agree with the SOE.
If you dont like the SOE law, then very quietly write an editorial to the newspapers and leave the country.
Fact is the man break the law, whether the officers should have let common sense prevail, well none of us were there in the situation. Suppose Stern and he crew cuss out the officers and get on wassy? U really think any officer going and let that slide? Steups.
Charge them! And take them downtown.
And Pro I expect better from you comparing the SOE laws to apartheid, steups.
Next thing you want to attack the breathlyser or seatbelt law cause it crush your shirt in getting from point A to point B.
I personally think the SOE was a great idea when it was called, but I think it is now past its usefullness.
Hopefully it will be dropped in time for my Xmas visit home! :beermug:
Like you trying to prove yuh dotish or something?!
Why have you not called on Jack Warner or even Ian Allyene to be arrested for breaking laws?!
When you do that as well as hand yourself in because I sure you have broken some law in T&T in the past then I and only then can I start taking what you just posted there seriously! :beermug:
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If anything as a celebrity Stern should know better as he should be setting a better example.
And as a celebrity, all the more incentive for the police to make an example of him. Man like FS arguing vehemently for him and against the curfew when he came from the UK and more than anybody should know better how it does run. When you are a celebrity and you cross the line, more incentive for the police to make an example of you rather than sweep it under the carpet as alot of you seem to be asking for.
And for those of you who think it is a waste of police time to find out why he got bail... It IS important because if yuh have one law for one man and one for another then what it says is that the SOE and the rule of law cannot be taken seriously.. ESPECIALLY because it is Stern.
Whether or not you agree with the curfew, or the justification for it etc is really a non-factor. I and all think is time for the curfew to end, but yuh not ketching me on Ariapita past 10pm when I know what time it is.
Better than that Stern.
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Allyuh is kicks here yes.
Imagine people arguing about the fact that there is an investigation into an apparent breach of the law by allowing Stern bail when he should not have been released.
Thats what we come to now,,,, arguing about doing the right and lawful thing.
Like the law dont mean anything anymore, no wonder the facking society the way it is in Trinidad where indiscipline and indifference rules.
Whether the SOE is warranted now or not, the law is the law, whether you like it or not, I really cant believe some of allyuh justifying bending the rules because is either a celebrity citizen or people dont agree with the SOE.
If you dont like the SOE law, then very quietly write an editorial to the newspapers and leave the country.
Fact is the man break the law, whether the officers should have let common sense prevail, well none of us were there in the situation. Suppose Stern and he crew cuss out the officers and get on wassy? U really think any officer going and let that slide? Steups.
Charge them! And take them downtown.
And Pro I expect better from you comparing the SOE laws to apartheid, steups.
Next thing you want to attack the breathlyser or seatbelt law cause it crush your shirt in getting from point A to point B.
I personally think the SOE was a great idea when it was called, but I think it is now past its usefullness.
Hopefully it will be dropped in time for my Xmas visit home! :beermug:
Like you trying to prove yuh dotish or something?!
Why have you not called on Jack Warner or even Ian Allyene to be arrested for breaking laws?!
When you do that as well as hand yourself in because I sure you have broken some law in T&T in the past then I and only then can I start taking what you just posted there seriously! :beermug:
In the general section there is a thread dedicated to Ian Alleyne.
There are several other threads here dedicated to Jack Warner.
What does all that have to do with Stern and this incident? Allyuh just trying allyuh best to make excuses for the man.
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So lemme ask you a question Socaprostate - in order to enforce a rule of law, the requirement is that you also enforce the rule of law in every single other scenario where a law is being broken?
I can see it now - Queens Council Socapro arguing for Stern John in front the law lords - "well my client should be freed from breaching the curfew your highness, because we have other people in Trinidad who have not been arrested and charged for talking on their cellphones while driving".
Yuh asking if i duncy, me aint no lawyer but I could tell you that stern john broke the law of the land directly on Sunday night. I can also tell you that Jack Warner did PERHAPS break some law, but why should he be arrested now when the case is still being reviewed by DPP Gaspard??
Remind me again what law of T&T did Jack Warner break at the Hyatt that can be proved??
With regard to Ian Alleyne on his phone while driving, you think anyone at that moment studying that when they interested in capturing an alleged mass murderer? In case your memory is blurry, the mayor of Chaguanas was arrested on Sept 30th for talking on his cellphone while driving.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_broke_the_law_-130894863.html
I guess he should have hired you to be his lawyer and argue that he should be freed because Ian Alleyne was not arrested for doing the same thing?
Yuh hatred of the PP and this curfew affecting your analytical thought breds. Bess yuh go and play some kaiso, sip a Carib and cool down a bit padna.
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If anything as a celebrity Stern should know better as he should be setting a better example.
And as a celebrity, all the more incentive for the police to make an example of him. Man like FS arguing vehemently for him and against the curfew when he came from the UK and more than anybody should know better how it does run. When you are a celebrity and you cross the line, more incentive for the police to make an example of you rather than sweep it under the carpet as alot of you seem to be asking for.
And for those of you who think it is a waste of police time to find out why he got bail... It IS important because if yuh have one law for one man and one for another then what it says is that the SOE and the rule of law cannot be taken seriously.. ESPECIALLY because it is Stern.
Whether or not you agree with the curfew, or the justification for it etc is really a non-factor. I and all think is time for the curfew to end, but yuh not ketching me on Ariapita past 10pm when I know what time it is.
Better than that Stern.
Have some of you guys who have been diving into comment taken the time to read the initial Stern John breaking curfew story properly before commenting?! ???
It was reported that Stern was arrested minutes to 11pm BEFORE the curfew hours were in place!
Also that Stern John and friends were delayed making their way home due to a friend having an accident (having to get them off to hospital).
Stern has also pleaded NOT GUILTY to breaking the curfew and who can blame him if in fact he was arrested BEFORE curfew hours had started!
If you want to argue about the law being abided by then there is such a thing in law as innocent until proven guilty!
Some of allyuh men need to learn to hush and observe before running allyuh mouth without knowing all the facts and making all sort of wrong assumptions!!
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since when T&T Express and Guardian does get anything right?
If is really true that they actually arrest him BEFORE 11pm, well then is bollocks, that is real shite.
Who knows what really went on.
But seriously tho, I doubt any police in T&T will arrest Stern John jus-so minutes before 11pm.
There is more to this story than we all assume.
I am sure that cussing was involved, mini threats etc.
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since when T&T Express and Guardian does get anything right?
If is really true that they actually arrest him BEFORE 11pm, well then is bollocks, that is real shite.
Who knows what really went on.
But seriously tho, I doubt any police in T&T will arrest Stern John jus-so minutes before 11pm.
There is more to this story than we all assume.
I am sure that cussing was involved, mini threats etc.
There you go again making more assumptions!!
Why don't you hush yuh ass and comment and be judgemental only after you have all the facts?!
That is what ah doh like about some ah allyuh here! Always so quick to condemn before allyuh have all the facts!!
No wonder Stern does be justified in cussing out some ah allyuh haters after he score goals for T&T! :cursing:
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Folks I have seen the light.
U guys are right and I am wrong.
Every Celebrity, especially those who play football are entitled to break our apartheid laws and go free. How could i be so blind and irresponsible to think that these guys are below the law like us lesser mortals.
A man tried to explain to you that certain laws can be enforced at the discretion of police officers provided that common sense comes into the equation!
Ah guess you are one of those who argues for the non-application of common sense in law enforcement!
If that is the case then I would expect the police to arrest Ian Allyene on set tonight during CrimeWatch for using his mobile phone while driving on a number of occasions and then arrogantly broadcasting that he is at liberty to break the law on national TV! Not a good example to all his fans and viewers!
Who the hell does Ian Alleyne think he is, Jack Warner? ::)
Lock up Ian’s ass and hit him with the maximum fine to the full extent of the law!
Let someone else who is 100% law abiding and more useful to society present CrimeWatch from now on!
My sister in law and her boyfriend were late getting home and they were stopped by Police, they had thier 4 year daughter with them. The police, being reasonable people actually escorted them home. They didn't arrest the parents and take the child the home.
And I'm sorry I still don't see the point in wasting time investigating why Stern was let out on bail when there are actual criminals being released. Investigte that.
Additionally, some police officers have no idea what they are talking about and just want to feel big. Remember the officer who wanted to arrest the express reporter because his permit didn't have a vehicle number, when none of them actually do. Like I said, maybe when they were taken back the police station, seniors realised that an Emergency is cause to be delayed in getting home. I would understand the hoopla is they were found in 51degrees car park with bottles of stag and a spooon making old noise. But they were clearly in distress, so the police man, wanting to prove a point decides to arrested the everyone else except the injured person, like the injured person could have taken himself to the hospital or something.
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So lemme ask you a question Socaprostate - in order to enforce a rule of law, the requirement is that you also enforce the rule of law in every single other scenario where a law is being broken?
I can see it now - Queens Council Socapro arguing for Stern John in front the law lords - "well my client should be freed from breaching the curfew your highness, because we have other people in Trinidad who have not been arrested and charged for talking on their cellphones while driving".
Yuh asking if i duncy, me aint no lawyer but I could tell you that stern john broke the law of the land directly on Sunday night. I can also tell you that Jack Warner did PERHAPS break some law, but why should he be arrested now when the case is still being reviewed by DPP Gaspard??
Remind me again what law of T&T did Jack Warner break at the Hyatt that can be proved??
With regard to Ian Alleyne on his phone while driving, you think anyone at that moment studying that when they interested in capturing an alleged mass murderer? In case your memory is blurry, the mayor of Chaguanas was arrested on Sept 30th for talking on his cellphone while driving.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_broke_the_law_-130894863.html
I guess he should have hired you to be his lawyer and argue that he should be freed because Ian Alleyne was not arrested for doing the same thing?
Yuh hatred of the PP and this curfew affecting your analytical thought breds. Bess yuh go and play some kaiso, sip a Carib and cool down a bit padna.
What a load of :bs:
I won't even waste my time addressing all that nonsense you just posted there as you already have enough egg on yuh face as it is!!
See my reply above!
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He totally prove your point. So for him Ian Allyene gets a pass, but Stern can't get bail... not even a pass eh, bail. he still has to appear before a magistrate.
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The fact that Starn may have been approached around 10 mins to 11pm is not the issue really. If you are anywhere in a hot spot after 10.30pm it is reasonable for the police to ask where you live and "shouldn't you make your way home". Remember the police are there not just to arrest but to prevent crime, so encouraging people to reach home safely is good policing.
However, we don't know the full details of this incident so its unfair for people to keep hounding the man.
Dinho, I think the curfew is a stupid, ill conceived idea, and always have. However, in this instance I am not arguing against the curfew, I am commenting on how people getting on so because Stern got a bligh, when those same people get blighs every day, Ian Alleyne is a perfect example. Trini saying Alleyne should get a bligh for driving and using a cellphone. Usually I would agree. But now Alleyne wants zero tolerance, it should apply to him. Remember, he purposely staged that car drive with Phillips for entertainment purposes. The police were following Alleyne and could have arrested Phillips at any time, but Alleyne wanted to take centre stage. Thats his choice he was in a car with a criminal. It does not allow him the luxury of breaking laws.
And speaking of which, as far as I understand, it is illegal for police vehicles to break the speed limit unless answering an emergency call. I also think that police vehicles aren't supposed to jump lights, drive on hard shoulders or park illegally unless in an emergency.
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So how can he be chraged with breaking curfew, if he didn't actually break it. Maybe hewas charged with something else, disorderly conduct and that's why he was allowed station bail or whatever.
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Socacrappo u is a ass or a marble?
If I hadda shut my ass that mean you hadda keep yuh mouth closed.
They say with age comes wisdom, but like you is the exception to the rule.
If u take a moment and think and not let your anti-PP sentiment cloud your judgement, you will know since the Free Kick Discussion Forum I was one of Stern's biggest fans and supporters. I play against Stern nuff times against Eldo and small goal down in UWI. We practically grow up with the same crew of people.
But that dont mean I going to defend him if he break the law. Steups, if u do shit, you hadda face the consequences. Oh fack man, some of allyuh is the greatest yes.
Hear what this argument come to - comparing Ian Alleyne driving and talking on the phone, WDMC, allyuh be pragmatic nah man, how the ass you could compare a man driving in an alleged mass killer to the police, TALKING TO THE POLICE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS for the handing over the man to a man ALLEGEDLY caught breaking curfew. It is almost laughable.
So if i coming home late one night from 51 and a car load of bandit following me, and I call the police for help, they should charge me when they come to assist???
This argument here is whether the man break the curfew or not.
Yes I assume there was cussing involved because I have been in situations like this before, police not just going and arrest a group of men minutes to the curfew time jus so. Is either the men cuss the police, or the police pull rank at 11pm sharp. Whatever it is, the man was CHARGED not CONVICTED!
Yuh stull aint answer meh question about Jack Warner - tell me the law of T&T he broke based on that video evidence for him to be arrested now. Dont forget this is all now before the DPP to determine if he did indeed break any laws. But u want them arrest the man now now, just because they arrest Stern. Steups.
Come nah man pro, u is a old man I respect here long time, think before yuh talk nah.
But like yuh losing it dread. First it was impotency that Sam and TrueTrini diagnose u long time ago for, now is like we hadda add stupidity...
Yuh brain going impotent now too?
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Well he had knowledge of a crime and didn't report it. The fact that money wasn't delcleared is a crime and he knew it, obviously, casue he was there, accepting it and handing it out and he didn't report it... small charge but still a charge.
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Do we know for a fact that Ben Hamim didnt declare the money?
DO we know for a fact even if he didnt declare it, that JW asked him "aye breds, you fill out your deceleration form on the plane coming in and declare that cash?'
That not a small crime as u say dey breds, that a big deal actually, thats the root of money laundering right there...
Thats why it before Mr Gaspard at the moment.
If they can make out a case, then by all means arrest the man!
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The money was not delceared, it is known. That's why the opposition was asking why the police didn't file a case against him.
But you are right, there is no evidence that JW knew the money wasn't decleared. But we all know he most likely suggested it.
An BTW, Ian driving while talking on his cell is just as bad. He is distracted: he has to study the criminal next to him, he on the phone and he's driving... an accident waiting to happen. There are countless wireless systems you can use to take calls while driving. And it wasn't just because of Eddie Phillip, Ian always talks on his phone when he is driving and sometimes I'm not even sure if he's actually on a call and it's not just to seem important.
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Yea, at the end of the day we all know Warner tell the man bring the money, we all know that he was fully aware that it wasn't declared and we all know to a man like Jack Warner, these kinda dealings is almost routine.
But proving it is a different kettle of fish.
And I will not be surprised in the least if Bin Hamman bring a lot more than $40K for Warner personally to facilitating all this.
Wow, we end up on Warner in a Stern John curfew thread.
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Yea, at the end of the day we all know Warner tell the man bring the money, we all know that he was fully aware that it wasn't declared and we all know to a man like Jack Warner, these kinda dealings is almost routine.
But proving it is a different kettle of fish.
And I will not be surprised in the least if Bin Hamman bring a lot more than $40K for Warner personally to facilitating all this.
Wow, we end up on Warner in a Stern John curfew thread.
Well, lets link the two properly. I don't know if you're aware, but the players lawyer issued a statement against TTFF. With the statement he attached TTFF accounts for 2005 & 2006 showing total income of around TT$11 million. Just for information, Carib presented a cheque to Jack on behalf of TTFF for $10 million late in 2005. The govt announced that TTFF accrued over TT$205 million for the 2006. Camps has sworn that Warner has all the information and missing money.
If thats not a reason to arrest and investigate Jack, I don't know what else they would need.
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Socacrappo u is a ass or a marble?
If I hadda shut my ass that mean you hadda keep yuh mouth closed.
They say with age comes wisdom, but like you is the exception to the rule.
If u take a moment and think and not let your anti-PP sentiment cloud your judgement, you will know since the Free Kick Discussion Forum I was one of Stern's biggest fans and supporters. I play against Stern nuff times against Eldo and small goal down in UWI. We practically grow up with the same crew of people.
But that dont mean I going to defend him if he break the law. Steups, if u do shit, you hadda face the consequences. Oh fack man, some of allyuh is the greatest yes.
Hear what this argument come to - comparing Ian Alleyne driving and talking on the phone, WDMC, allyuh be pragmatic nah man, how the ass you could compare a man driving in an alleged mass killer to the police, TALKING TO THE POLICE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS for the handing over the man to a man ALLEGEDLY caught breaking curfew. It is almost laughable.
So if i coming home late one night from 51 and a car load of bandit following me, and I call the police for help, they should charge me when they come to assist???
This argument here is whether the man break the curfew or not.
Yes I assume there was cussing involved because I have been in situations like this before, police not just going and arrest a group of men minutes to the curfew time jus so. Is either the men cuss the police, or the police pull rank at 11pm sharp. Whatever it is, the man was CHARGED not CONVICTED!
Yuh stull aint answer meh question about Jack Warner - tell me the law of T&T he broke based on that video evidence for him to be arrested now. Dont forget this is all now before the DPP to determine if he did indeed break any laws. But u want them arrest the man now now, just because they arrest Stern. Steups.
Come nah man pro, u is a old man I respect here long time, think before yuh talk nah.
But like yuh losing it dread. First it was impotency that Sam and TrueTrini diagnose u long time ago for, now is like we hadda add stupidity...
Yuh brain going impotent now too?
Won't even bother to waste my time trying to address all that tata you just post there!
Its amazing to me that you actually believe you making sense!!
DavyJenny would be proud of you! :beermug:
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I say we make this next game Stern John's testimonial...his time is clearly up show send him off with a bang
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I say we make this next game Stern John's testimonial...his time is clearly up show send him off with a bang
Go brave fitz go brave. Yuh might get 2 carry a thank u banner.
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I say we make this next game Stern John's testimonial...his time is clearly up show send him off with a bang
Go brave fitz go brave. Yuh might get 2 carry a thank u banner.
maybe if i was home...lol
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I say we make this next game Stern John's testimonial...his time is clearly up show send him off with a bang
Go brave fitz go brave. Yuh might get 2 carry a thank u banner.
maybe if i was home...lol
Yuh in foreign?
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Yeah, I was home on "vacation" for the SW sweat
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Yeah, I was home on "vacation" for the SW sweat
k I know I thought u were foreign base so was surprise 2 c u at d sweat
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i think you mean a "farewell' game... not "Testimonial"... tnT dont give players Testimonials...ask any of them
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Stern Johns matter adjourned
T&T Newsday
Soca Warriors striker, Stern John, reappeared in court yesterday on the last day of the state of emergency when the matter in which he was charged for breaching curfew was adjourned.
John, along with Theresa Humphrey, her sister Terry Ann Humphrey, and attorney Denisa Mayers appeared before Senior Magistrate Cheryl Ann Blake in the Port-of-Spain Fourth Magistrates Court.
The four are charged for committing a breach of curfew on October 15 last, at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook. Initially, there was confusion among senior and junior police officers over the decision to charge the four accused with the offence since they were reportedly in the yard of Motor One Insurance, which is located at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook.
The matter which is being prosecuted by Sgt Richard Taylor has been adjourned to February 14.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/r42fSgsN4HE
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For the neophytes..allyuh jes witness a snippet of the Stern Turn!
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When you is a yute, is a hell of a thing. He was young then.
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Stern was an admirable finisher and a big part of T&T success. :applause:
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My horse forever!!! :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Imagine if Mr John really took advantage of the chances he had.
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f**k off Jumbie...what yuh mean ??..we woulda win de world cup ??
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f**k off Jumbie...what yuh mean ??..we woulda win de world cup ??
not sure why you feel you need to cuss me, but it's VERY clear that Mr John MISSED many of his chances in front of the goal. If you take the time to look at footage (if there's any) you'll confirm what I said. It was not intended to be a knock on Mr John, but just an observation and something to think about. How much more prolific he would have been.
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f**k off Jumbie...what yuh mean ??..we woulda win de world cup ??
not sure why you feel you need to cuss me, but it's VERY clear that Mr John MISSED many of his chances in front of the goal. If you take the time to look at footage (if there's any) you'll confirm what I said. It was not intended to be a knock on Mr John, but just an observation and something to think about. How much more prolific he would have been.
Nah man ... Stern of Columbus days was very clinical...
Is only when he get injured and put on a little more size, he turn into a throw way child... despite this the man continue to score plenty important goals.
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The penalty miss against El Salvador , oh gorm :-[ , sheds tear
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http://www.youtube.com/v/rFyZhb2LNP8
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Good luck Stern!
Let us know which club you are playing at in England and we will come show you some support in appreciation of your many years of service and goals for the T&T national team.
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Good luck yes...
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He's playing tonight for Solihull Moors against Sutton Coldfield Town in a preseason friendly.
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He's playing tonight for Solihull Moors against Sutton Coldfield Town in a preseason friendly.
for who against who?? ??? :o ???
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what vb saud
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He's playing tonight for Solihull Moors against Sutton Coldfield Town in a preseason friendly.
for who against who?? ??? :o ???
Dais de local equivalent of Quite-o Quite-o F.C. vs Rampanalgas United
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He's playing tonight for Solihull Moors against Sutton Coldfield Town in a preseason friendly.
for who against who?? ??? :o ???
Dais de local equivalent of Quite-o Quite-o F.C. vs Rampanalgas United
Probably a bit harsh, I'm pretty sure Solihull Moors play at a higher level than Chippenham Town (which was Luke Gullick's club before he walked on to the Jabloteh team, as I recall). Same level as Kevin Austin at Boston United I think.
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They play in the Conference north...about 2 level belows Npower League Two on the Pyramid.
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He's playing tonight for Solihull Moors against Sutton Coldfield Town in a preseason friendly.
what was the result tallman?
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He's playing tonight for Solihull Moors against Sutton Coldfield Town in a preseason friendly.
what was the result tallman?
The Moors won 2-1, with Stern setting up the game-winning goal.
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play de fitball legend
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Stern (http://www.solihullmoorsfc.co.uk/team/550-stern-john) signed with Solihull Moors.
(http://www.solihullobserver.co.uk/photos/ketteringom_c1569543_12815_514.jpg)
(http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275784/Article/images/16678076/4030474.png)
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Stern looking a bit portly.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/rFyZhb2LNP8
Ah wonder if it was berris who drop him in de airport......
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Stern looking a bit portly.
Need some of your genes ;D
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Stern John makes comeback with Solihull Moors
nonleague.pitchero.com
Moors have given former Trinidad & Tobago international striker Stern John a chance to make a comeback after a year out of the game. John made his international debut for Trinidad in February 1995 against Finland and represented his country on 114 occasions scoring seventy goals.
He is the fourth highest international goalscorer behind Pel, Ferenc Pusks and Ali Daei.
He started his soccer career in the USA playing for Columbus Crew in Ohio and New Orleans Riverboat Gamblers and moved to Nottingham Forest in 1999.
He remains a legend at Birmingham City and Coventry City and also played for Southampton and Crystal Palace.
During his professional career he has played 467 league games and scored 163 goals.
Moors have also signed midfielder Reece Fleet.
Fleet started his career in the youth academy at Birmingham City. He was released at the close of the 2010/11 season, but as the son of ex-Oxford City keeper Colin Fleet, it was no surprise that he joined City for the start of last season when they won promotion to the Conference North.
He also turned out for Hungerford Town towards the end of the last campaign.
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I met him at Notting Hill Carnival the other day! I would post the picture with the legend (yes he is a legend to me) but I don't want anyone to know my face lol)
Very brief but you could see he was a cool guy.
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I met him at Notting Hill Carnival the other day! I would post the picture with the legend (yes he is a legend to me) but I don't want anyone to know my face lol)
Very brief but you could see he was a cool guy.
Photoshop your face. We don't have to see you.
VB
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Saw him play in ah band with Rat.
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Saw him play in ah band with Rat.
Pure Lime. I was with the rival band Chocolate Nation Lol
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Yeah, Them fellahs always liming. Saw some pics of Stern, Rat and Hayden from the original Physco 5.
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Met alot of people last couple of years especially this July and August but I'll just post the Trinibago ones since it makes no sense posting the other since it's not Stern John or TNT related. I know that these people are just people you guys know to most of you lot. Bit different to an outsider like me and a Football, Soca and T&FNut (The latter is an obsession lol)
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6081/cimg7060d.jpg)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8108/20120826180551.jpg)
Second time I've met RT.
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8831/richardthompson.jpg)
Gordon and Gordon. (You know De Jaguar (Kirani James) had to Lalonde since he's from Greenz :D *ducks from flying objects*)
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2407/gordonandgordontnt.jpg)
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Nice pics.
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Stern John will know his fate in December
By Anna-Lisa Paul (T&T Guardian)
Soca Warriors striker Stern John and three others, who were charged for breach of curfew last year, will have to wait until December to know their fate. The former international footballer, along with sisters Theresa and Terry Ann Humphrey and Denisha Mayers reappeared before Chief Magistrate Marcia Ayers-Caesar in the Port-of-Spain Eighth Court yesterday. The four are charged with a breach of curfew last October after they were held at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook.
During the state of emergency, which began on August 22 and ended on November 6, citizens were warned against being out-of-doors during the limited 9 pm to 5 am curfew. When the four appeared in court on October 17, they pleaded not guilty to the offence and were granted $1,000 bail each. They are represented by Keith Scotland and Asha Watkins, while George Busby is prosecuting.
Standing before Ayers-Caesar yesterday, Busby apologised for being unable to proceed as he said he had only received crucial evidence last Thursday and was yet to disclose the material to the defence. Saying he had received CCTV footage and was still awaiting other evidence, Busby requested a short adjournment as it would take more than two days to fully disclose all the items.
Referring to a straightforward matter which has now become complicated, Scotland requested a date in December, to allow the defence team to thoroughly analyse the evidence. Ayers-Caesar later adjourned the matter to December 11.
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waste of tax payers money .. buss a fine on di man and move on nuh man cheups...
war
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Top goal score and that is de way they treat de man?wow I geuss they doh care about we superstars..
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Top goal score and that is de way they treat de man?wow I geuss they doh care about we superstars..
Sarcasm?
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Stern John expects player shake up
By Jensen LaVende (Express).
VETERAN footballer and former striker of the Trinidad and Tobago senior team Stern John said that the time has come for players to prove themselves.
John made the comment yesterday during an interview with the Express. John said the hiring of new coach Stephen Hart would mean that the players would experience a shake up. John said the time has come for the players to stand and be counted, and place the country back on the football map.
Right now we need leaders. The players need to step up and be counted. No one respects us right now; We need to get the respect on a world stage, John said.
John added that it does not matter whether the coach is local or foreign. He added that former national coach Leo Beenhakker, who led the Soca Warriors to World Cup in 2006, made the team buy into his dream.
Read More (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/senior-team-news/12592-stern-john-expects-player-shake-up.html)
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Stern John expects player shake up
By Jensen LaVende (Express).
VETERAN footballer and former striker of the Trinidad and Tobago senior team Stern John said that the time has come for players to prove themselves.
John made the comment yesterday during an interview with the Express. John said the hiring of new coach Stephen Hart would mean that the players would experience a shake up. John said the time has come for the players to stand and be counted, and place the country back on the football map.Right now we need leaders. The players need to step up and be counted. No one respects us right now; We need to get the respect on a world stage, John said.
John added that it does not matter whether the coach is local or foreign. He added that former national coach Leo Beenhakker, who led the Soca Warriors to World Cup in 2006, made the team buy into his dream.
Read More (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/senior-team-news/12592-stern-john-expects-player-shake-up.html)
a man who understands the process
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Stern John expects player shake up
By Jensen LaVende (Express).
VETERAN footballer and former striker of the Trinidad and Tobago senior team Stern John said that the time has come for players to prove themselves.
John made the comment yesterday during an interview with the Express. John said the hiring of new coach Stephen Hart would mean that the players would experience a shake up. John said the time has come for the players to stand and be counted, and place the country back on the football map.Right now we need leaders. The players need to step up and be counted. No one respects us right now; We need to get the respect on a world stage, John said.
John added that it does not matter whether the coach is local or foreign. He added that former national coach Leo Beenhakker, who led the Soca Warriors to World Cup in 2006, made the team buy into his dream.
Read More (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/senior-team-news/12592-stern-john-expects-player-shake-up.html)
a man who understands the process
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Stern John is still the leading scorer of hat-tricks in Major League Soccer, and he only played in the League for two years. BRILLIANT!
http://usasoccer.blogspot.com/2007/06/mls-hat-tricks-comprehensive-review.html
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:applause:
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A true legend. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs his/her head examined. Will always be a bit of an unsung hero because of the ingratitude of his home country that devalues mentors / heroes.
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Legend 14 !
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It is unlikely that we will see an international player score 100 goals for his country for a long time. The closest that any player in recent times has come in Trinidadian, Stern John, who managed to put the ball away 70 times in 115 games. Even the greatest goalscorer of modern day football, Mr. Messi has only managed to score 35 goals in 82 games for Argentina.
http://soccerlists.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/top-5-goal-scorers-at-international-level/
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It is unlikely that we will see an international player score 100 goals for his country for a long time. The closest that any player in recent times has come in Trinidadian, Stern John, who managed to put the ball away 70 times in 115 games. Even the greatest goalscorer of modern day football, Mr. Messi has only managed to score 35 goals in 82 games for Argentina.
http://soccerlists.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/top-5-goal-scorers-at-international-level/
Legend 14!!!
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It is unlikely that we will see an international player score 100 goals for his country for a long time. The closest that any player in recent times has come in Trinidadian, Stern John, who managed to put the ball away 70 times in 115 games. Even the greatest goalscorer of modern day football, Mr. Messi has only managed to score 35 goals in 82 games for Argentina.
http://soccerlists.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/top-5-goal-scorers-at-international-level/
WOW!!! :notworthy:
Stern John is probably the most underrated player in TnT
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Stern John concerned about testing.
T&T Express Reports.
Former national player Stern John has raised some concerns about the testing methods Trinidad and Tobago defender Akeem Adams might have undergone at his Hungarian Club Ferencvaros prior to having a heart attack on September 25.
John was speaking on Wednesday at the Eddie Hart Ground in Tacarigua, where he was one of several former national players giving their views on development work to be done at the Tacarigua Recreation Ground..
The former T&T captain, who has played for international clubs such as Sunderland and Southampton, is questioning whether Adams Hungarian club did a proper analysis of his physical condition before he got the heart attack.
All indications from Adams Hungarian club are that proper methods were followed and that the player showed no sign of heart disease. Also, Adams had played two junior FIFA World Cups with T&T, during which time he was tested and given a clean prognosis by Dr Terrence Babwah.
John s concern is that Adams might be the latest local player to suffer mistreatment and poor treatment in the international arena. With the situation as it is, John said it is unfortunate Adams got the heart attack so early in his international career.
Meanwhile, John is among several football personalities who are supporting plans by the Sports Company of Trinidad and Tobago (SPORTT) to build a modern sporting facility at the Eddie Hart Ground. Others backing the move are former PNM MP Eddie Hart, who has successfully run the Eddie Hart Football League for 47 years at the venue, former national team manager Sam Phillip, and ex-national youth player Kevin Jeffrey.
The Eddie Hart Ground, soon to be renamed the Eddie Hart Regional Sport Complex, will be getting a $190 million face-lift. The new venue is expected to be fitted with a 900-seat covered pavilion, an athletics track, and a multipurpose court for other sporting disciplines. There has been an argument from some quarters for the venue to remain a green space, but Hart is among those who feels that development is a proper step.
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I find Stern's comment is out ah timing.
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I find Stern's comment is out ah timing.
Agreed! Absent some sound basis for doubting the level of testing/care Akeem received, Stern shouldn't just be expressing some generalized concern about 'mistreatment and poor treatment' at this point. If nothing else, the club has been extremely responsive and caring in light of the situation.
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No one can predict sickness especially in Akeem's case, cause it looks like generic.
If Stern say Real Madrid bought an injured slip-disc Gareth Bale from Tottenham, then maybe....
:devil:
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I find Stern's comment is out ah timing.
norm for john to miss the mark
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Damn! Low blow. That Penally against El Salvador does still haunt me.
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I find Stern's comment is out ah timing.
Agreed! Absent some sound basis for doubting the level of testing/care Akeem received, Stern shouldn't just be expressing some generalized concern about 'mistreatment and poor treatment' at this point. If nothing else, the club has been extremely responsive and caring in light of the situation.
yeah the club appears to be stepping up to the plate...we dont know if they at fault for anything at this time. our national teams didnt detect anything in the past yet he didnt mention that.
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When is a good time to raise questions? Stern is a well travelled pro footballer and just maybe due to his experiences all over with different clubs it's ok to raise certain questions..........especially when the fire hot.........
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When is a good time to raise questions? Stern is a well travelled pro footballer and just maybe due to his experiences all over with different clubs it's ok to raise certain questions..........especially when the fire hot.........
I listened to his interview and he didn't base it on anything of substance. He just felt that the appropriate thing was to make someone to blame. Sometimes these things happen, even after medicals. Italy has one of the most rigorous medical tests for footballers yet they too have had athletes suffer heart attacks.
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Perhaps, given his experience, Stern might know something the rest of us don't.
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When is a good time to raise questions? Stern is a well travelled pro footballer and just maybe due to his experiences all over with different clubs it's ok to raise certain questions..........especially when the fire hot.........
I listened to his interview and he didn't base it on anything of substance. He just felt that the appropriate thing was to make someone to blame. Sometimes these things happen, even after medicals. Italy has one of the most rigorous medical tests for footballers yet they too have had athletes suffer heart attacks.
not saying he is right.........but sometimes there is someone to blame........can't put al that trust in a employer.........look at all the stuff that is coming out now with the mighty NFL with how they approached concussions over the years and now with the settlement all their dirty laundry will most likely be covered up forever..........it is imperative to still have the conversation as to why this young man is in this situation
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Shush Stern: Akeems agent defends Ferencvarosi on players condition
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868)
Dion Sosa, the local manager for stricken Trinidad and Tobago footballer Akeem Adams, has responded angrily to suggestions that Hungarian club, Ferencvarosi, might be responsible for the medical condition of the Soca Warrior.
Adams is in ICU at the Varosmajori Heart Clinic in Budapest after suffering a massive heart attack, two weeks ago. At present, the former Presentation College (San Fernando) student has a mechanical, artificial heart and is in urgent need of a heart transplant. On Tuesday morning, Adams left leg from below the knee was amputated due to circulatory problems.
Record Trinidad and Tobago goal scorer Stern John, a former England Premier League player with Birmingham City and Sunderland, told CNC3 yesterday that Adams employer might have to answer questions soon as to how the 22-year-old passed a medical at the club.
Adams only joined Ferencvarosi on 7 August 2013.
However, Sosa emphatically dismissed any suggestion of wrongdoing by the club.
That is very irrational statement, Sosa told Wired868. You are trying to imply (that) the people saw something and then looked away. But even Dr (Terence) Babwah said Akeem went through all the FIFA protocol and testing for two FIFA World (Youth) Cups and nothing showed up
So that is rubbish.
Since Adams heart attack, Ferencvarosi paid for the players mother, Ancilla Adams, and brother, Akini Adams, to travel to Hungary to be at his bedside while the club also provided accommodation and transport to and from the hospital for the two Point Fortin residents.
Ferencvarosis insurance policy for the player has also completely covered all his medical bills so far.
Central FC operations director Kevin Harrison also sympathised with the club. Central FC, a Couva-based Pro League club, was Adams last employer before he went to Europe.
Read more: http://wired868.com/2013/10/10/shush-stern-akeems-agent-defends-ferencvarosi-on-players-condition/
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I have no doubt that Stern's comment came out of concern rather than maliciousness. Nonetheless, unfortunately, they led to this. At this point, let good sense prevail.
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not saying he is right.........but sometimes there is someone to blame........can't put al that trust in a employer.........look at all the stuff that is coming out now with the mighty NFL with how they approached concussions over the years and now with the settlement all their dirty laundry will most likely be covered up forever..........it is imperative to still have the conversation as to why this young man is in this situation
I would not suggest without more information that the club is or is not responsible. I was simply pointing out that I don't think Stern has any additional information either, so his comments are inflammatory at worse and just plain silly at best. Either way it serves no purpose than to upset a couple people unnecessarily. The stuff that came out of the NFL's treatment of players came after years of research and is based on something concrete. Unless Stern can produce similar research then...
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Stern talking nonsense, why would a club overlook anything when them self have to pay de bills.
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Wolfman, you are exactly right. That is the way responsible people deal with issues. The desire to just jump in and say things while producing no evidence is irresponsible on Stern's part, and especially at this time. There will be time for investigation and blame.
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not saying he is right.........but sometimes there is someone to blame........can't put al that trust in a employer.........look at all the stuff that is coming out now with the mighty NFL with how they approached concussions over the years and now with the settlement all their dirty laundry will most likely be covered up forever..........it is imperative to still have the conversation as to why this young man is in this situation
I would not suggest without more information that the club is or is not responsible. I was simply pointing out that I don't think Stern has any additional information either, so his comments are inflammatory at worse and just plain silly at best. Either way it serves no purpose than to upset a couple people unnecessarily. The stuff that came out of the NFL's treatment of players came after years of research and is based on something concrete. Unless Stern can produce similar research then...
Not only that... everybody knew for years that the NFL was dropping the ball, that was no secret and no surprise. The subsequent research into concussions and TBI just confirmed it. What evidence can Stern point to?
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[/quote]not saying he is right.........but sometimes there is someone to blame........can't put al that trust in a employer.........look at all the stuff that is coming out now with the mighty NFL with how they approached concussions over the years and now with the settlement all their dirty laundry will most likely be covered up forever..........it is imperative to still have the conversation as to why this young man is in this situation
I would not suggest without more information that the club is or is not responsible. I was simply pointing out that I don't think Stern has any additional information either, so his comments are inflammatory at worse and just plain silly at best. Either way it serves no purpose than to upset a couple people unnecessarily. The stuff that came out of the NFL's treatment of players came after years of research and is based on something concrete. Unless Stern can produce similar research then...
you right......maybe he should have been more eloquent and informed in voicing his concerns........
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Stern scolded, freed
By Rickie Ramdass (T&T Express)
AFTER more than two years before the court, footballer Stern John was yesterday freed on a charge of breaching the curfew during the 2011 limited State of Emergency.
John, who was charged alongside three women, reappeared before Chief Magistrate Marcia Ayers-Caesar in the Port of Spain Court.
They had initially pleaded not guilty to the charges but yesterday changed it to guilty.
The women are attorney Denisha Mayers, 35, Terri-Ann Humphrey, 31, and her sister Teresa Humphrey.
All four were charged with being on the compound of Motor One Insurance on the night of October 15 during the State of Emergency, at the corner of French Street and Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook.
During yesterdays hearing, Ayers-Caesar was presented with several written testimonials outlining the good character of the accused and their contribution to their communities.
The magistrate however, expressed concern with the late changing of the not guilty plea, stating that this could have been done since the matter first came up for hearing.
She later proceeded to reprimand and discharge the four on the charges. They will therefore have no criminal record attached to their names.
Acting Sgt Johnson Benjamin and PC Hadeed Mohammed who made the arrests and laid the charges were also commended by the magistrate who ordered that they each be rewarded $500.
Defence attorneys Keith Scotland and Asha Watkins-Montserin represented the four, while George Busby prosecuted for the State.
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I eh understand this? Yuh change yuh plea to guilty and it get discharged because of good character? Is that what the article says? On top of that the judge say tuh give the police officers a $500 bonus? Something eh right there. Can someone explain this to me because I don't understand? Really, I don't
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Thank God this choopidness is over. Load of needless fuss over nothing. Not saying Stern is above the law, but at the time it wasn't clear that liming on private property was breaking curfew.
And this: Acting Sgt Johnson Benjamin and PC Hadeed Mohammed who made the arrests and laid the charges were also commended by the magistrate who ordered that they each be rewarded $500. is crazy. The men get paid to uphold the law. Are police now getting bonuses for giving traffic tickets? I fully support rewards for heroism, but did these big men act beyond the call of duty or put themselves in danger by arresting a footballer, a solicitor, her sister and her friend, while they were carrying machine pistols, batons etc?
Lawd, I must be owed $millions for breaking up fights in bars!!
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I eh understand this? Yuh change yuh plea to guilty and it get discharged because of good character? Is that what the article says? On top of that the judge say tuh give the police officers a $500 bonus? Something eh right there. Can someone explain this to me because I don't understand? Really, I don't
I imagine Stern was faced with a choice: Plead not guilty, when they can prove that technically you were and receive a criminal record or plead guilty and the case is closed with a warning. I imagine this is a typical plea bargain scenario?
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This case was a waste of time,in the first place Stern should never have been arrested,those Police officers was just looking to get some pips for arresting the guy,is Stern John someone who we all know,someone who has brought fame and fortune to our country,they could of talk to these people and send them home,imagine two years to come to a decision on this,they arresting all kind of Gang leaders and freeing them in a matter of days/weeks. This thing real funny.
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A country where heroes are devalued and everybody is jess another self-loathing shittong worthy of being thrown in the rubbish dump of history. "Stern John? Who de eff is he? I know he cousin from dong by me. He eh nobody! My bruddah and dem use to play small goal wit' he and he posse dong by Eddie Hart. I even had was to len' he a tugs when he uncle dead. He geh award? Fork dat. Look loose he ass in jail . Good for he. Who he feel he is now...."
Very sad... and mind you much of this attitude/behaviour is from an unconscious disease.
On the flip side is a pathetic desire by some of us to put on a pedestal and foist upon us the most overtly degenerate in the society with absolutely no moral compass and bordering on evil with their wish to damage the truly unsung heroes. I hope we see an end to the deepening of the psychological wounds left
by the cabal of Jackulito, Scamps, Rodent and their sick flock.
Stern, hope to see you mentoring the players when they gettin' ready for the 2018 world cup qualifiers ... and even now ... And I hope nobody dare say yuh doh deserve a stipend or pay fuh dat because who de hell is half slab.
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I eh understand this? Yuh change yuh plea to guilty and it get discharged because of good character? Is that what the article says? On top of that the judge say tuh give the police officers a $500 bonus? Something eh right there. Can someone explain this to me because I don't understand? Really, I don't
I imagine Stern was faced with a choice: Plead not guilty, when they can prove that technically you were and receive a criminal record or plead guilty and the case is closed with a warning. I imagine this is a typical plea bargain scenario?
Make sense that's why the judge says it could have been settled long ago. However, why the police getting $500 again? This has me perplexed...
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I could only shake my head yes.
It's not at all unusual to have the matter dismissed... because frankly it's a waste of time. This is the equivalent of a summary offense, conviction on which does not carry a "criminal record". Secondly curfew is curfew... you are not allowed to be outside PERIOD. Private property or not, the concept of a curfew is not in dispute. There is nothing technical about his guilt... outdoors after the cutoff time is a charge. Plain and simple.
Third, if Stern and them did just humble theyself once confronted, (from what I recall there was resistance then an argument) none of this would have happened. All this 'hero' talk is nonsense... what, it have two set ah laws? One fuh regular people and one fuh 'heroes'? steups. Only thing that don't make sense to me is the $500 each to the cops. Not sure what that about.
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$500 for speaking truth to power ...
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I'm wondering if the $500 is more like compensation due to the drawn out proceedings; ? for lost earnings or wasted time in court when they were only doing their job and John and his colleagues could have ended this much sooner. I'm thinking the reporter just used a poor choice of words to describe the reasons for the money being awarded. Courts don't pay people as a result of their rulings, to my knowledge its the responsibility of the accusors or defendants.
I remember a neighbour (when i lived in T&T) getting awarded a few hundred dollars on top of other financial compensation for just that. He took a tresspasser to court who he belived poisoned one of his dogs. There were multiple witnesses who saw this fella tresspass on his property and the suit was really about wether the guy poisoned the animal or not but the accused denied everything including tresspassing. What should have ended in a day took 4 court attendances over 6 months Once it was proven the guy was ordered to pay compensation for the animal, court costs and money for essentially wasting the accusors time. Don't think he ever got all the cash though.
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I'm wondering if the $500 is more like compensation due to the drawn out proceedings; ? for lost earnings or wasted time in court when they were only doing their job and John and his colleagues could have ended this much sooner. I'm thinking the reporter just used a poor choice of words to describe the reasons for the money being awarded. Courts don't pay people as a result of their rulings, to my knowledge its the responsibility of the accusors or defendants.
I remember a neighbour (when i lived in T&T) getting awarded a few hundred dollars on top of other financial compensation for just that. He took a tresspasser to court who he belived poisoned one of his dogs. There were multiple witnesses who saw this fella tresspass on his property and the suit was really about wether the guy poisoned the animal or not but the accused denied everything including tresspassing. What should have ended in a day took 4 court attendances over 6 months Once it was proven the guy was ordered to pay compensation for the animal, court costs and money for essentially wasting the accusors time. Don't think he ever got all the cash though.
That is a civil proceeding where someone suing someone else. That's not the case here... this is a criminal proceeding, the officers are witnesses for the state, who pays their salary. I don't see the basis for the award.
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This week in 1998, the Crew signed Stern John. The Trini forward scored 44 goals in 55 matches for the Black & Gold, good enough for third on the club's all-time list.
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John hails T&Ts Gold Cup showing.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).
Former national striker Stern John has hailed T&Ts senior team for one of the best showings ever at the Concacaf Gold Cup.
John played in three Gold Cups in which he scored three goals including a double in a 3-1 win over Honduras in 1998 and a penalty in a 1-1 draw against Costa Rica in 2002.
Currently the head coach of the T&T Football 7 Academy in Trincity, John attended a couple of the T&T sessions during their pre-Gold Cup training camp in Fort Lauderdale earlier this month.
The team wasnt having a good run and from what I saw from then to now, its been a massive turn around and all credit to the head coach and his staff and the skipper and his players, John said.
They were a bit unfortunate in the last match against Panama. Maybe the Mexico game took a lot out of them but they were outstanding in that game so you cant really fault them. To come from two goals down and then fight right down until the end when you are behind against Mexico is no easy accomplishment.
I was quite pleased to see the way the team carried itself, the players gave everything and thats what you want to see from a national team. Hopefully they can keep this up and get the right support that can put them in a good way for the World Cup qualifiers coming up, said T&Ts all time leading goalscorer.
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Former Soca Warrior, Stern John, is quite satisfied with the progress of T&T's football. John was speaking with TV6's Vinod Narwani and even discussed what he's been doing of late.
http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news/Stern-John-on-Football-323384051.html
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Former Soca Warrior, Stern John, is quite satisfied with the progress of T&T's football. John was speaking with TV6's Vinod Narwani and even discussed what he's been doing of late.
http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news/Stern-John-on-Football-323384051.html
Always wondered what he was up to
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Stern John's 26-goal season
By Steve Sirk (ColumbusCrewSC.com)
Its hard to believe that we will ever see anything quite like Stern Johns 1998 season ever again. On the recommendation of his cousin, Black & Gold defender/midfielder Ansil Elcock, Columbus signed 21-year-old Stern John from the second-division New Orleans Riverboat Gamblers, where he had scored 16 goals in 26 appearances in 1997.
Things started off slowly in Columbus, but after four scoreless appearances, John bagged a hat trick in a 5-1 flogging of the Miami Fusion at Ohio Stadium on April 18. He scored again the next week in a shootout loss at RFK Stadium.
A month later, on May 30, he suddenly bagged another hat trick in a 4-1 win vs. San Jose, running his goal total to seven. He scored single tallies in back to back weeks in mid-June, then added another goal in early July.
By the time Columbus hit the 20-game mark in early August, John looked like a really good find. He had scored 10 goals in 15 appearances. He had done all of his goal scoring in just six of those games, so he was perhaps a little streaky, but when he was on, he was ON.
And then the final seven weeks of the season happened. In the span of 12 games in 49 days, Stern John went off, scoring 16 goals. SIXTEEN! Streaky no more, he scored in nine of the Black & Golds final 12 matches. He was consistently unstoppable.
He scored two goals in a 6-1 slaughtering of New England on August 8. After a scoreless game in New Jersey, John came off the bench in the 53rd minute in the August 16 game against Kansas City. Enough time for a hat trick? Yep. John scored in the 71st, 79th, and 81st minutes to lead the Black & Gold to a 5-3 comeback win. Six days later, it was two goals in a 3-1 win vs. Tampa Bay. Seven days after that, it was two more goals in a 3-0 victory in Los Angeles. So thats a hat trick and three braces in the span of just 21 days!
John briefly cooled down after that. He scored one paltry goal vs. the MetroStars on September 6, which ran his season total to 20, then put in 90 scoreless minutes apiece in shutout losses vs. Miami and at New England.
Then, as if he were a Rush fan, he went 2-1-1-2 in the final four games to boost his season total to 26, which was one shy of the league record held by Roy Lassiter of the 1996 Tampa Bay Mutiny. (Since equaled by Chris Wondolowski of the 2012 San Jose Earthquakes.)
When it was over, Johns season looked like this:
Hat tricks: 3
Braces: 5
Singles: 7
Thats right, if Stern John scored a goal in 1998, it was more likely than not to be followed up by at least one more goal. Thats crazy.
Here are some more splits
First half of the season: 9
Second half of the season: 17
Home games: 20
Road games: 6
TWENTY HOME GOALS! For now, Stern John is the only player in Crew SC history to hit the 20-goal mark, and its crazy to think that he still would have done it even if he had sat out all 16 road games!
Kei Kamara could hit the 20-goal mark this year. Hes currently at 12 home goals and six road goals, for an overall total of 18.
Anyway, Stern Johns 1998 season was nuts. Absolutely nuts. Those final seven weeks are just off the charts. Ridiculous.
Even if you are too young to remember Stern Johns 1998 season, please applaud the heck out of that man when hes in town for the September 26 match. What he did was legendary, and it has revealed itself to be even more so with the passage of time.
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I remembered that season. The man was like Benjai said, "Phenomenal!!!" Absolutely. The only other Trini I remembered having a similar streak was Steve David(LA Aztecs) in 77.
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Didn't get to see much of the his '98 season but I remember he was a goal scoring machine from some the highlights I saw on the news. Ah partner of mine who played for the US and was Stern's teammate at Columbus told me Stern John was the man, he described him as incredible. De man face light up when talking bout Stern yes lol.
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Debate going on about if Sebastian Giovinco is having the best season ever.
See who he is behind with a few games remaining in goals and assists per game
Most goals and assists per 90 minutes in single season
Player Season - Goals - Assists - G+A/90
Diego Serna 2001 15 15 1.37
Cobi Jones 1998 19 13 1.35
Stern John 1998 26 5 1.29
Sebastian Giovinco 2015 19 14 1.24
Robbie Keane 2013 16 11 1.23
Alex Pineda Chacon 2001 19 9 1.23
Landon Donovan 2008 20 9 1.22
Jeff Cunningham 2009 17 8 1.17
Robbie Keane 2014 19 14 1.17
Thierry Henry 2012 15 12 1.15
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Great article.
Nuff respect stern-turn-inho.
Teachable moment:
By foreign perspective phenomenal!
By several local self-loathing standards ... shittong. Yes, you heard right.
What does that say about the society? Lots of work to be done.
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A few moments from Stern's 1998 season
https://www.youtube.com/v/fDgjRP2gx84
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Stern John at a function to honour the legends of the past 20 years of Columbus Crew.
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Stern John at a function to honour the legends of the past 20 years of Columbus Crew.
(http://m.mlssoccer.com/sites/league/files/imagecache/283x160-iphone-featured/image_nodes/2015/09/Columbus-Crew-SC-legends-gather-for-20th-anniversary-celebrations.jpg)
You can see more pics on our Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/socawarriors.net/timeline/story?ut=43&wstart=0&wend=1443682799&hash=4278181561770333777&pagefilter=3).
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The Stern Return: Supporters thrilled to meet the Columbus Crew legend
By Steve Sirk (ColumbusCrewSC.com)
In the Emmy-nominated Massive Icons special on Time Warner Cable Sports Channel, current Crew SC midfielder Wil Trapp said this about Stern John:
He's almost like a myth because he scored so many goals and I felt like I never really saw this guy play.
Unless they were there in the 1990s, many Crew SC fans feel just like Trapp.
Suggested to the club by his cousin Ansil Elcock, John joined his cousin on the Crew in 1998 and scored a club record 26 goals. He followed it up with an 18-goal campaign in 1999 and then was off to England. In just 55 games in Black & Gold, John tallied 44 goals, for a ridiculous career scoring rate of 0.89 goals per 90 minutes.
Johns brief but legendary Crew career was something that had to be seen to be believed. Sometimes, even John couldnt believe it. He scored 16 goals in the final seven weeks of the 1998 season. Thats unfathomable.
Ive never had a streak like that in my life, John said Saturday morning. At that time, I was in a zone. I didnt know how many goals I was scoring. I just wanted to score and to do well and we were climbing the table toward the playoffs. I just wanted to score goals for the Crew, and I think a lot of the credit goes to the guys who were around me. The service I had, it was because those guys played for the strikers.
Brian Dunseth, then of the New England Revolution, had the unenviable task of trying to mark John in those days. It didnt go well. Johns signature move was the Stern Turn, whereby he would play with his back to goal, then whip around on a defender and fire off an accurate shot.
It was difficult, Dunseth said of marking John. All he would do is put his butt in my face and then wrap his arm around me and spin me like a top. Then hed usually score when he shot the ball. I just tried to physically hit him as hard as I could. I always remember the Stern Turn as him in a white Crew uniform with yellow stripes, and he was wearing those bright-a** red adidas cleats. I was usually on the ground after he turned me. Thats what I remember.
And now, 16 years after he finished obliterating the Crew SC record books, and after a 14-hour journey from Port of Spain, Trinidad, Stern John stood in the hallway at the Sheraton on Capitol Square, ready to be introduced to Crew SC fans at the meet and greet. As emcee Neil Sika rattled off the 44 goals in 55 games stat, Alejandro Moreno, who scored 52 goalsin 272 MLS games calmly declared, Thats a LOT.
Yeah, that IS a lot, Moreno said a short while later. Certainly by MY standard. Im the striker who doesnt score goals, so there you go. To compare teams and eras is so very difficult, but the numbers remain and they are impressive.
Sterns numbers were so impressive that Crew SC fans voted his 26-goal Golden Boot campaign as the 15th-best moment in Black & Gold history, despite some of them never even seeing it happen. But now, at long last, Crew SC fans got to see Stern John in the flesh.
Rosemary Cox, who became a Crew SC fan in the 2008-2009 timeframe, was delighted to meet the man who had only existed in the legendary stories told by earlier fans of the club.
It was terrific, she said. Wed always heard about Stern John, but he was before our time. To meet him face to face was awesome. The people who sit behind us have been with the Crew since day one at Ohio State and they always say, Stern John! Nobody compares to Stern John! So to meet him in person was very exciting. He was very nice.
The man himself was all smiles after the event.
I met a few people at the autograph event today that were like, Yeah, I heard about you, but Ive never seen you play. John said. It feels nice to have people recognize what youve done in your career. The fans have been brilliant for me since day one when I signed here. They supported me. Even the ones who have never seen me play, they know my stuff. The fans play a major part of soccer in this country and with the Crew, so its fantastic. Im just happy to be back and be part of it.
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Stern John meets Kei Kamara, the man who is chasing his record at Columbus Crew
By Steve Sirk (ColumbusCrewSC.com)
Of all the interactions between the legends and the current squad, surely none was as anticipated as the comingling of Kei Kamara and Stern John, the only two men to score 20 goals in a single season for the Black & Gold. John scored a club-record 26 in 1998. Kamara entered that night with 21.
The two encountered each other outside the locker room as Kamara made his way into the stadium, as seen in this photo:
They then met up again inside the locker room when Berhalter introduced the legends to the team.
The funny thing is, Kamara said, I told McBride, Dont worry. Im not here to break any records and McBride told me, Dont talk to me! Go talk to Stern about that!
I just tried to tackle him in there, John joked at the press conference, moments after the locker room visit. Its great. To see a fellow footballer obviously trying to break your record is really good. I think hes been doing really well. I wish him all the best. I hope he breaks the record.
Thats NOT what he said earlier, Brad Friedel retorted to everyones amusement.
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Two other legends weighed in on Kamaras historic 2015 campaign during the press conference.
Brian McBride called the signing of Kamara a genius move and a perfect fit for Gregg Berhalters system.
You can see just how confident he has grown, McBride said. Its not just about him scoring goals. He does a lot of work. He makes some really good runs opening up parts of the field. On top of that, when you get in a rhythm scoring goals, I think hes had an exceptional season. Hes taken his chances well.
Alejandro Moreno played with Kamara in Houston during the first part of the 2007 season, when Kamara was in his second year as a pro.
Seeing him now, in 2015, there is a great maturation process and personal growth you see in Kei, Moreno said. There were great physical abilities and attributes that were there and evident in 2007, but that didnt always translate into results on the field. A lot of it had to do with Kei getting out of the way of himself. That maturation process is great because it allows him to display all of the things we saw and at times saw flashes, but didnt quite go to Saturday. Now hes taking that to Saturdays consistently.
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On this particular Saturday, Kamara would notch goal number 22. He made a near-post run to the corner of the six-yard box, and somehow, despite a poor angle and his momentum carrying him away from the goal, redirected a Federico Higuain corner kick inside the near post.
At the time Kamara scored, we were all behind the benches just before halftime, so my personal view was obscured. I looked to Stern, who had a better vantage point, and asked, Was it Kei?
He smiled and nodded.
It was Kei.
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The meeting between Kamara and John was actually not their first. They had crossed paths in 2006 when Kamara was part of the Generation Adidas team that made a trip to England. John was plying his trade with Coventry City at the time.
Im sure he doesnt remember that, Kamara said. I met him then and I was Columbus then and I had heard a lot about him. But its great to have this weekend and to have a few of those guys around, and to meet a player of his caliber. What he did for the club in goals is amazing.
And now, as he chases the single-season scoring record, Kamara not only set an MLS record by scoring against his 21st MLS club, but he pulled within four goals of Stern John while Stern John himself was in the building. Talk about rising to the occasion.
Or not. Kamara said it didnt really cross his mind in the heat of the moment. It wasnt until he reflected afterward that he realized what a cool moment it was.
Now that I think about it, he said, its an honor to say that Ive scored against every club and all those guys were there. Stern John was there and I hope he approved, and I hope McBride approve of the header.
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Stern John definitely approved. Before he left the stadium at the end of the night, he said it was great to see Kamara in the midst of his historic season.
We were just talking about football and scoring goals and stuff, John said. Hes doing really well. For the Crew to have a chance to do well, he needs to stay healthy. If he stays fit and healthy, I think he is going to score a lot of goals.
John then asked how many games remained in the season. I told him Kamara had three games to score four goals to tie the record, or five to break it. He pondered the math for half a second, then rendered his judgment.
He can make it, John declared. The records are made to be broken. If he breaks it, my hats off to him.
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What is all this big up my countryman getting?
Every couple lines a read is another flattering comment about Stern.
Very nice read.
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John coaching at Central FC.
By Walter Alibey (GUardian).
Former national striker Stern John has been doing some coaching with Digicel T&T Pro League outfit Central FC. He started a few days ago and could be there for the rest of season.
The Guardian understands that the ex-striker who, only recently was inducted into the First Citizens Foundation Sports Hall of Fame last year, was said to have been the replacement for Ross Russell who was sacked by the Central Sharks recently.
Yesterday, however, the clubs operations manager Kevin Harrison confirmed that John, has been lending his support to the team by sharing his knowledge and experience, but on a voluntary basis. John has been expectedly, working with the strikers as goalscoring has been highlighted as their weakpoint this season.
Harrison explained with Johns record and experience in goal-scoring, that he could not think about a better person he would like to have doing work on his forwards than John.
Johns decision to coach at the central club was due mainly to his close friendship with Sancho, as both represented the senior national football team for many years including 2006 where they both donned the red, white and black at the World Cup in Germany. His decision has now become particularly important as the sharks are on the verge of finding a brand of football that they can relate to.
Harrison reminded the Guardian of a situation at English Premiership club Liverpool in the late 1970s to early 1980s where the headcoach was usually studied by his assistant coach, saying when that headcoach leaves then the assistant coach would take over.
Harrison made it clear that the system means that the team was playing according to the coach which, would have led to changes anytime a coach leaves. This is not what we want to achieve at Central FC, but rather have a style of play that suits our team. He explained the idea is to have people with past experiences in professional football to give their input with a view to creating a Central FC football style.
According to Harrison the clubs headcoach Dale Saunders, who is a qualified coach, took over from Russell in December, has been very happy with what the club has been trying to achieve. Saunders has been doing a great job and now he is receiving assistance from John as well as the teams managing director Brent Sancho and to be honest the players have been receptive towards it and are doing well to date, Harrison said.
In the teams last game on Saturday they whipped St Anns Rangers 3-1 and Harrison was impressed, saying the team looked very different in terms of its play, its tactics and system. The Sharks will again take the field in a mouth-watering contest against league leaders Defence Force from 9 pm at the Hasely Crawford Stadium this evening.
Harrison said it will be a crucial match for them as they look to close the gap between them and the Army Coast-Guard Combination. Contacted yesterday Sancho confirmed that John has been helping the club but is not on the teams payroll. He is a personal friend of mine and he has been working with the strikers as well as conducting motivational sessions with players, as we have done, in allowing people who have performed at the top of their games professionally, to do in the past, Sancho said.
He added: As you know the team has no style of its own and we are working hard to achieve this and continue to instill professionalism as well. What we are also trying to do is find a balance between achieving success in local football, staying in line with the structure of international football, while providing an avenue of sustained development for many young footballers in T&T.
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Stern John backs Warriors to get job done vs Guatemala on September 2nd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKN1vHuq2bY&spfreload=10
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Very glad to see that experience remain in the game - a generation of youngsters will be better off for it.
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One of the particularly interesting passages from Keanes autobiography, The Second Half, focuses on Trinidadian striker Stern John.
The veteran forward didnt exactly set the world alight after Keane bought him while manager at Sunderland. John made 16 appearances in total for the Black Cats and scored five goals before being sold to Southampton, yet Keane calls him one of his best signings during his time as manager at the Stadium of Light.
In the book, Keane writes: I knew hed be a man, and he was one of the best men Ive come across. I knew he could deal with coming up to Sunderland. I knew he wouldnt be coming into my office with, Can I have a day off next week cos my wife needs a scan? I knew I wouldnt have to baby-sit him.
A year or so later I was after Kenwyne Jones, and I told Stern, I dont want to sell you, but Im trying to get Kenwyne Jones in and Southampton want you as part of the deal.
He said, Okay, Ill go for it.
He stood up and shook my hand.
Thanks for everything.
And I went, Thats why I signed you.
A man.
He was brilliant.
http://www.the42.ie/roy-keane-wants-footballers-men-boy-opinion-2941590-Sep2016/
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wow...cool... legend 14
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One of the particularly interesting passages from Keanes autobiography, The Second Half, focuses on Trinidadian striker Stern John.
The veteran forward didnt exactly set the world alight after Keane bought him while manager at Sunderland. John made 16 appearances in total for the Black Cats and scored five goals before being sold to Southampton, yet Keane calls him one of his best signings during his time as manager at the Stadium of Light.
In the book, Keane writes: I knew hed be a man, and he was one of the best men Ive come across. I knew he could deal with coming up to Sunderland. I knew he wouldnt be coming into my office with, Can I have a day off next week cos my wife needs a scan? I knew I wouldnt have to baby-sit him.
A year or so later I was after Kenwyne Jones, and I told Stern, I dont want to sell you, but Im trying to get Kenwyne Jones in and Southampton want you as part of the deal.
He said, Okay, Ill go for it.
He stood up and shook my hand.
Thanks for everything.
And I went, Thats why I signed you.
A man.
He was brilliant.
http://www.the42.ie/roy-keane-wants-footballers-men-boy-opinion-2941590-Sep2016/
High friggin praise indeed.
VB
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My horse forever!!
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I knew he wouldnt be coming into my office with, Can I have a day off next week cos my wife needs a scan? I knew I wouldnt have to baby-sit him.
Keane is a savage dred, I think he has a wife and 5 children, man never ask for a day off.
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Nuff respect to Stern John. Only as time passes will T&T understand what we had in this man.
Proud to be T&T
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much as I was a fan of Stern. I don't see how Keene saying he's a man is recognized as something so great. I always knew he was not only a man, but our top man at the time, slump or not, so the Big famous Boss say he knew it as well, while he letting him go, and he didn't act like a child and now we all know it to be so ? oh please
Like it woulda change the price of sugar if he doth protest or was any less, or if Keene did write something different. Oh well, as the great crazy ass Roy Keene said it, ah proud lol
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much as I was a fan of Stern. I don't see how Keene saying he's a man is recognized as something so great. I always knew he was not only a man, but our top man at the time, slump or not, so the Big famous Boss say he knew it as well, while he letting him go, and he didn't act like a child and now we all know it to be so ? oh please
Like it woulda change the price of sugar if he doth protest or was any less, or if Keene did write something different. Oh well, as the great crazy ass Roy Keene said it, ah proud lol
Funny post Max ;D Respek SJ, legend :beermug:
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John humbled by Keanes comments.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).
T&Ts all-time leading goalscorer Stern John says he was humbled by the special mention made about him by Roy Keane in the former Manchester Uniteds autobiography. Keanes comments were published in the British press last week as he spoke about Johns impact at Sunderland and explained how he had to let the player go for the incoming Kenwyne Jones.
It was something I didnt expect to be honest. Keane was always a tough number and we know there was a certain way he got on with players. But to hear him say something like this now feels good. I know when the time was coming for me to exit the club it was disappointing but I was able to still push on with my career at the time and that is what mattered most.
My days in English football will always hold a special place in my career, said John.
In the book, Keane described John as one of his best signings. I knew hed be a man, and he was one of the best men Ive come across. I knew he could deal with coming up to Sunderland. I knew he wouldnt be coming into my office with, Can I have a day off next week cos my wife needs a scan? I knew I wouldnt have to baby-sit him.
A year or so later I was after Kenwyne Jones, and I told Stern, I dont want to sell you, but Im trying to get Kenwyne Jones in and Southampton want you as part of the deal.
He said, Okay, Ill go for it. He stood up and shook my hand. Thanks for everything. And I went, Thats why I signed you. A man. He was brilliant.
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John: T&T football in shambles
By Jelani Beckles (Newsday).
FORMER national striker Stern John says Trinidad and Tobago football is in shambles currently with the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) in search of its third national coach in less than two months.
Former coach Stephen Hart was fired on November 24 last year with the TTFA shockingly appointing the previously unknown Belgian Tom Saintfiet on December 7 to the top position.
But a month later, the Belgian has bolted after three defeats in four matches. John, this countrys all-time top scorer with 70 goals, is hopeful that the TTFA chooses the right person this time as the team gears up for the resumption of the World Cup qualifiers in March.
John, who was a member of the Soca Warriors squad which created history by reaching the 2006 World Cup in Germany, wants the coaching situation to be resolved quickly.
I think we just need to get it sorted, it has been dragging on for a long time. I think for me it is in shambles, we are making a mess of it. Whoever we choose as the national coach we need to sort it out as soon as possible and just support him, give him 100 percent support no matter what, the former Birmingham City forward said.
John has no preference on whether the next coach should be local or foreign with names such as Dennis Lawrence, Terry Fenwick, Russell Latapy, Stuart Charles Fevrier and Francisco Maturana being considered.
Many national players have been under fire for indiscipline of late and John is calling for the local footballers to step up to the challenge of the World Cup qualification. The players need to have a look at themselves as well and have some personal pride and put everything behind their backs and just get on with the game, he stressed.
John added, I am very concerned (about the indiscipline).
This is football, I think the guys need to grow up. Like I was telling couple of my friends a couple days ago Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham they played on the same team (Manchester United) for years and they never spoke off the pitch but you have to be a professional player.
You dont need to be friends off the field but on the field you need to work as a team and just get the job done and be a professional about it. John is questioning whether some of the national players have the drive to succeed on the international stage.
The players now they not that passionate about the game and they dont really understand the importance of Trinidad and Tobago getting to another World Cup. Even for the country we seeing the mess the country is in right now, we need some kind of upliftment. The players, staff and administration need to get together and get this sorted because right now it is shambles, he said.
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Just noticing that the Kenwyne thread longer than the Stern John thread. I wonder which other threads were longer.. maybe the Hardest thread? :D
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John says Lawrence is on track.
T&T Guardian Reports.
Stern John, assistant national football coach believes the T&T team under new coach Dennis Lawrence, is right on track ahead of the FIFA World Cup Qualifiers against Panama and Mexico on March 24th and 28th respectively.
He praised Lawrence for the work done to date and called on the public to give its full support in a drive that has the potential to see another World Cup qualification for the twin-island republic.
John, a former national goalscorer who has been an assistant coach to Dale Saunders at T&T Pro League outfit Central FC, the three-ime reigning national champion team, said both players and staff members have been working really hard with the team daily and pointed out that Lawrence has returned home with a lot of good and different ideas that will benefit the country as a whole once the players can buy into it.
Dennis is doing a fantastic job so far. The players are really taking everything on board so far, and hopefully we can continue doing that and get a result next couple of weeks, John said. He noted He (Dennis) knows exactly what he wants to do with the staff and players and as long as we could get the players to buy into what he is trying to do, I think his philosophy is fantastic, so hopefully we can continue. The guys have been working extremely hard in and around the field, off the field, they have been working really hard, so hopefully we can continue.
Lawrences sessions have been embraced by not only John, but other members of the coaching staff, including Stuart Charles-Fevrier, another assistant coach, as it involves briefing coaches and players on what will be done and what they intend to achieve each day.
Due to this approach John said they are always totally involved in whats happening and also get more respect from the players.
Fevrier, the headcoach of former TT Pro L:eague champion tyeam W Connection, described the quality of the sessions as being very good and professionally run, noting that the players are all very enthusiastic.
Meanwhile, apart from the qualifiers later this month, the Soca Warriors will face regional neighbours Barbados in an international friendly encounter on March 10 at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva where most of the players for the qualifiers will be chosen from.
According to Fevrier, The foreign based players, a few of them, will be starting their league season from this weekend and we will definitely be keeping a close eye on them. For us now we would like to see who are the players showing the form to fit in to the national squad for the coming qualifying games. The Barbados game is one of the games we will be looking at to see who are the players that could contribute to the team for the World Cup Qualifiers, come March 24th and 28th.
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Sad news forumites Stern's daughter passed away.
http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/stern-johns-daughter-dies
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Heartfelt condolences to Stern and family at this devastating time. . .
Very sad to hear. . .
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Stern, deepest condolences to you and your family. Rest in Peace, Nikela.
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TTFA, Stern mourn daughters passing.
TTFA Media.
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, staff members and players of the Mens National Senior Team extends deepest condolences to former national player and current Assistant Coach Stern John on the passing of his daughter Nikela.
Nikela, age 19, passed away on Thursday evening at her Cunupia home due to medical causes still to be determined.
John was on his way to a National Team practice session at Ato Boldon Stadium when he received a phone call that his daughter was not well. He was excused from the session and rushed to the scene at her home. She was pronounced dead later that evening.
Nikela was born in Trinidad but lived with John during his playing time in Birmingham from a tender age before returning to Trinidad. She was a student of Holy Name Convent.
TTFA President David John-Williams said My thoughts and prayers are with Stern today . This is indeed a difficult time for him and his family as well as our TTFA family. As President I will like to urge Stern to stay strong. Words are difficult to find at this time to say to him. We ask for Gods blessings upon him at this time and may she rest in peace.
Head coach Dennis Lawrence, who also played with John on the Senior Team, stated We want to extend our condolences to Stern and his family and also let him know that we have him in our thoughts and we share in this time of grief with him.
We know that no amount of words can really help to ease the pain he is bearing but we we pray that the comfort of God helps him and his family through this difficult time.
Stern is one of us and we will give him the time and support he needs right now and welcome him back at the appropriate time, Lawrence said.
The T&T Senior team takes on Barbados from 7pm today at the Ato Boldon Stadium.
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Nikela John remembered as a rare gem.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).
NIKELA JOHN, daughter of former Trinidad and Tobago football striker and current assistant coach Stern John, was remembered yesterday as a gem in its rarest form.
The 19-year-old Nikela, who died on March 9 from undisclosed medical reasons, was laid to rest at the DAbadie Public Cemetery yesterday, following an hour-long funeral at a packed Santa Rosa RC Church, Arima.
According to Denisha Mayers, a friend of Nikela who delivered the eulogy, Nikela was a gem in its rarest form. Her smile was as radiant as the brightest flower, and she would melt your heart, even when she (did) her mischief.
Her candid laugh would easily captivate and concern. She always wanted her own way, (but was) strong-willed, caring, fun-loving and God-fearing. Mayers pointed out, There was a never a dull moment with Nikela. She was a master in the kitchen like her mom (Nicole Baldwin).
Her intelligence, wit and sense of humour caused friendships aplenty. She made us all less stressful. Referring to Nikelas relationship with her father, Mayers said, Her conversations (with Stern) usually starts Father and would be followed up with demands, about 99 percent of the time.
Nikela was always the hardest nut to crack. In attendance were a number of relatives and friends, as well as members of the sporting fraternity, including her distant relative Alec Burns (former TT cricketer) and other regional cricketers Dwayne Bravo and Kevon Cooper.
Past and present national footballers were also at the Church, including current assistant coaches Stuart Charles-Fevrier and Ross Russell; current players Carlos Edwards, Sean De Silva, Carlyle Mitchell and Nathan Lewis, Johns former teammates Clint Marcelle, Ansil Elcock and Marvin Gordon, ex-TT manager Joseph Sam Phillip and close friend Brent Sancho.
Mayers made it clear that the memories of Nikela would last forever.
God gave you to us for a minute but our fondest memories of you would last a lifetime, she said. God would never take anyone away until they have taught us what they need to know. Thank you Jesus for blessing us with Nikela John. Thank you for welcoming her into heaven, where she would now look over us, together with our other guardian angels.
Today I want us to remember Nikelas smile, her warmth, her love, her hug, her stale jokes.
Grief and sadness is a small price we all have to pay for that irreplaceable gift we were given 19 years ago. Thank you Jesus for Nikela John and may she forever rest in peace, Mayers ended.
Nikela leaves to mourn her parents, her stepfather Kevin George and her siblings Tyrik, Janiyah (George), Kelsi, Stern, Xiadan, Ava and Terlisha.
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This is more sad new...condolences to you and your family Stern and I hope you can stay strong. This is the most difficult thing for any parent to deal with. May she RIP!!!
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So sorry to hear of this. The absolute nightmare of any parent.
RIP Nikela. Condolences to Stern and family.
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My sympathies to the John family. that is frigged up. I can't imagine ...
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Keep your head up Warrior
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Just heard this sad and shocking news today! :'(
Condolences to Stern and his family on the passing of his daughter!
This is hard for Stern! I pray that God gives him the strength to get thru this!!
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Oh my! God Bless. Rest in Paradise, Ms. John. Condolences to Stern and Family. So young. Oh my!
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More sad news......*sigh * RIP young miss John.....poor Stern.... :'( :'(
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sad indeed.......never feels good to lose a child :( :( condolences to the family
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Condolences to Stern and the John family. Truly sad and difficult time for all. May God shine his light on the family in this difficult time! Blessings!
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Condolences to Stern and his family (The Howard University Family)
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Nikela John remembered as a rare gem
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday)
NIKELA JOHN, daughter of former Trinidad and Tobago football striker and current assistant coach Stern John, was remembered yesterday as a gem in its rarest form.
The 19-year-old Nikela, who died on March 9 from undisclosed medical reasons, was laid to rest at the DAbadie Public Cemetery yesterday, following an hour-long funeral at a packed Santa Rosa RC Church, Arima.
According to Denisha Mayers, a friend of Nikela who delivered the eulogy, Nikela was a gem in its rarest form. Her smile was as radiant as the brightest flower, and she would melt your heart, even when she (did) her mischief.
Her candid laugh would easily captivate and concern. She always wanted her own way, (but was) strong-willed, caring, fun-loving and God-fearing. Mayers pointed out, There was a never a dull moment with Nikela. She was a master in the kitchen like her mom (Nicole Baldwin). Her intelligence, wit and sense of humour caused friendships aplenty. She made us all less stressful. Referring to Nikelas relationship with her father, Mayers said, Her conversations (with Stern) usually starts Father and would be followed up with demands, about 99 percent of the time. Nikela was always the hardest nut to crack. In attendance were a number of relatives and friends, as well as members of the sporting fraternity, including her distant relative Alec Burns (former TT cricketer) and other regional cricketers Dwayne Bravo and Kevon Cooper. Past and present national footballers were also at the Church, including current assistant coaches Stuart Charles-Fevrier and Ross Russell; current players Carlos Edwards, Sean De Silva, Carlyle Mitchell and Nathan Lewis, Johns former teammates Clint Marcelle, Ansil Elcock and Marvin Gordon, ex-TT manager Joseph Sam Phillip and close friend Brent Sancho.
Mayers made it clear that the memories of Nikela would last forever.
God gave you to us for a minute but our fondest memories of you would last a lifetime, she said. God would never take anyone away until they have taught us what they need to know. Thank you Jesus for blessing us with Nikela John. Thank you for welcoming her into heaven, where she would now look over us, together with our other guardian angels.
Today I want us to remember Nikelas smile, her warmth, her love, her hug, her stale jokes.
Grief and sadness is a small price we all have to pay for that irreplaceable gift we were given 19 years ago. Thank you Jesus for Nikela John and may she forever rest in peace, Mayers ended.
Nikela leaves to mourn her parents, her stepfather Kevin George and her siblings Tyrik, Janiyah (George), Kelsi, Stern, Xiadan, Ava and Terlisha.
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Central FC player/coach Stern John criticised.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).
Ex-national striker and current player/coach of three-time TT Pro League champions Central FC, Stern John, came in for heavy criticism yesterday for alleged comments he made towards a number of North East Stars players during Fridays Pro League encounter at the Ato Boldon Stadium, Couva.
It is alleged harsh words were exchanged between the 40-year-old John, who featured for the entire match, and the Stars players, during the one-sided contest which ended 6-0 in favour of North East Stars. Central FC, who completed a historic three-peat of league titles last season, are currently languishing in the standings and looking unlikely to make it four in a row.
Ironically, John is also an assistant coach with the Trinidad and Tobago team, while national coach Dennis Lawrence looked on in the stands.
According to a Stars player, who requested anonymity, John should permanently hang up his boots instead of trading barbs on the field with this countrys professional footballers.
I thought it was very distasteful. There is always banter within football. Banter amongst the players is one thing but when you have the position as the assistant coach of the national team, and a head coach (of a club team), it would come across a lot different.
I was a member of Central FC previously. I dont know him personally but I think that the remarks were uncalled for, coming from a person of his stature. It was definitely uncalled for, banter or not.
About the all-time TT record goal-scorer (70 goals from 115 internationals), the player stated, You are past your career. Your playing days are over.
Nobody said you (were) not a good player. You were a good player. But now is time for the younger players because its their generation, their time to shine to make something of themselves, so they can now move (forward).
North East Stars coach Derek King, when contacted yesterday, pointed out, As a coach, I would never disrespect (any) coach in the League or disrespect any player. At the end of the day we (need), as coaches and club owners, to build Trinidad and Tobago football.
Its not about us. Its about building Trinidad and Tobago football to take it to the next level. Were here to support, were the feeder for the national set-up. We should be as one, all the coaches, ended King, the former TT defender and assistant coach.
Efforts to contact Brent Sancho, owner of North East Stars, proved futile.
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Central in crisis..North East Stars hit.
By Ian Prescott (Express).
CENTRAL FCS sudden and rapid fall from grace is just a symptom of the greater problem of lack of financial support for the local professional football league. That was the opinion of Central FC managing director Brent Sancho following his clubs latest Pro League defeat, a 0-6 loss to North East Stars on Friday night in Balmain, Couva.
Having won three consecutive Pro League titles (201415, 201516, 201617) and two Caribbean crowns (2015 & 2016) when they had the money to buy the best local footballers, Central FC suffered its worst defeat yet when hammered for half-a-dozen by the current league leaders at the Ato Boldon stadium.
Every club (is) losing players due to the financial situation. So, is not about Central FC alone. This is a Pro League problem. Jabloteh is (sic) a shadow of themselves, they also lost a lot of players. We are the same way and apparently some of North East players playing for free, Sancho declared.
The Derek King-coached Stars started with six former Couva Sharks players, including former USA-based winger Rundell Winchester who scored a hattrick (21, 40 & 85) after ex-Central FC captain Elton John opened Stars account from the penalty spot in the third minute.
Jameel Shooter Neptune, acquired from Morvant Caledonia United, and Jalani Felix completed the one-sided rout.
Former T&T international striker Stern John has come out of retirement due to the acute shortage of playing staff at Central FC, deprived of six injured men on Friday night and a host of the better players who have left the team due to non-payment of salaries. Forty-year-old John also assumed the player/coach role after head coach Dale Saunders moved on as well. The former English Premiership striker played a full 90 minutes without impact in a Central FC side having to play with youngsters and just three senior regulars -- in Sean de Silva, Jason Marcano and defender Sean Bateau.
Still owed over $2m in prize-money, former England-based defender Sancho disclosed that at a recent Board meeting, Pro League clubs took a decision to see out the 2017 season, but strong uncertainty lingers over 2018. Clubs will also not play for prize money this season. Sancho explained that clubs budgeted around a promise of continued financial support through Governments monthly assistance.
It not only stopped, but it stopped right at the start of the season, former Sport Minister Sancho declared. You budget, sign contracts, and then the subvention stops suddenly. It left us all in a crisis.
The crisis continued for Central on the field when Elton John converted a penalty that he himself had won, taken down by defender Rhondell Gibson when driving into the Sharks penalty area. Neptune struck in Densill Theobalds pass for 2-0 in the 14th minute and Winchester got two before the half ended, first volleying Kevon Villaroels cross past Central keeper Kern Caesar in the 31st minute and then putting a powerful shot past the keeper for 4-0 nine minutes later.
Substitute Felix sent a free-kick to the far corner for 5-0 in the 81st and Winchester headed in Duane Mucketts cross for 6-0 in the 85th minute.
But for some wasted chances from Stars, the scoreline could well have been worse for Central FC.
Results
Defence Force FC 1 (Hashim Arcia 84 - penalty ) vs San Juan Jabloteh 0
North East Stars 6 (Elton John 4 pen., Jameel Neptune 14, Rundell Winchester 21, 40, 85, Jalani Felix 81) vs Central FC 0
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"Efforts to contact Brent Sancho, owner of North East Stars, proved futile."
When that happen. Sanch leggo Central too. Or he was never there. Wha bout FS ?
Who else make the exodus?
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When Central started, I always said that we will see how long they will last. Central is having the same issue as Jabloteh had when Clico and Duprey empire fell apart. At least Jabloteh stop football for a year(correct me on this), reorganized and came back into the league. That was about 8 yrs ago. They are still a shadow of the past. When JW got busted, Joe Public dropped out of the league. So Dexter and company really have some work to do. I doubt they will get money from govt at this time. Sad, very sad.
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We have no respect for Stern! Stars slam T&T assistant coach after on-field insults.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).
North East Stars head coach Derek King and at least two members of his playing staff have condemned the behaviour of Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team assistant coach and former World Cup 2006 star Stern John, after several heated verbal exchanges at Couva last night which left players disgusted and fearful of victimisation.
John, who is Trinidad and Tobagos all-time record scorer with 70 goals from 114 international appearances, was on duty as Central FC coach and, for the second straight match, decided to play himself from the start.
But it was not a happy time for John or Central as Stars humiliated them 6-0 at the Ato Boldon Stadium after leading by four goals at halftime.
By the final whistle, it was King and his squad who were livid, though, as they alleged that John taunted Stars players about their skillsor their supposed lack thereofand their inability to break into the Soca Warriors team for which he serves as assistant to head coach Dennis Lawrence.
At present, left-back Kevon Villaroel is the only Stars player on the national squad although the Arima-based team are four points clear at the top of the Pro League standings and employ the likes of Yohance Marshall, Rundell Winchester, Julius James, Duane Muckette, Kishun Seecharan, Keston George, Kevon Goddard, Jomoul Francois, Kerry Baptiste and Densill Theobald.
The crosstalk, according to two Stars players who spoke on condition of anonymity, started in the second half when Jamesa former 2001 Under-17 World Youth Cup player, MLS employee and Hermann Trophy candidate with the University of Connecticut (UConn)flattened John with a tackle that was whistled as a foul.
Johns response, according to a Stars player, was to call James a shit player.
That is why you cant make the national team! John allegedly taunted James.
James, who is 33 and has 16 senior international caps for the Warriors, was selected in Lawrences first national team to play Barbados but declined the invitation to sign a one-year deal with United States team Sacramento Republic instead. He has not been recalled since.
It was only the beginning of Johns supposed tirade.
He started to tell players that they were shit and that they were not going to get paid at the end of the month, said one player. He told Keston George (a versatile 24-year-old player who was Central FC captain just two months ago) that he was shit and had a shit touch and only made the national team because he made it happen
I used to have respect for Stern John but it is hard for me now.
George was called up to train with the Warriorswhile still a Central playerin April before a friendly international away to Grenada although he did not make the final squad. He has not been invited to rejoin the squad since.
Wired868 tried without success to reach John for a comment. King told Wired868 that he phoned Lawrence immediately after the match to complain.
I called Dennis last night and told him as a national coach that was real poor from Stern, said King, who was assistant to ex-head coach Stephen Hart and Johns former international teammate. How can you have a national team technical staff member playing against guys who are aspiring to make the national team and telling them things like that?
According to one Stars player, John was disrespecting the game and the Pro League by even being on the fieldlet alone his demeanour.
A former Premier League player with Birmingham and Sunderland, John, who is now 40, hasnt played top flight football in Trinidad for five years. His inserting himself into the Central starting team meant that versatile attacker Jem Gordon and his own son, Tyrik John, had to settle for spots on the bench.
Youre fat and youre unfit and youre 40-years-old, one Stars player commented, so what are you doing on the field?
If a camera was there to scout players and they see you on the field looking like that, then you are bringing the whole level of the competition down. Youre disrespecting the game and you have to have more respect for yourself than that.
The player was not yet finished.
To make it worse, youre a national team coach and you should be there scouting players, not trying to fight up with them and talking shit as an unfit, overweight player while your team is getting whipped
Come on man, understand your role! I know it is all banter but you must have respect for yourself and others as a national team coach.
His Stars teammate claimed that John also made withering comments about his opposing coach, King.
He told players to look at what your payslip is going to be at the end of the month, said the player, [because] allyuh Mickey Mouse coach selling allyuh dreams
At present, Johns record as a head coach reads thus: one draw and three losses with one goal scored and 12 conceded.
King, at 37, is an Under-20 Caribbean Cup champion coach, a former Pro League Coach of the Year and, if Stars stay on top the League at the end, he will become only the second Pro League coach to win titles at different clubs after Englishman Terry Fenwick.
Fenwick won at San Juan Jabloteh and Central while King is already a former winner with Joe Public.
Even if you are in a game and youre mad, those are the kind of things you are spewing? asked the Stars player. It goes to show where the mindset of the national team reach if this is the thinking and behaviour of an assistant coach on the national team.
He is out of retirement now, so is he going to put himself up for selection? [] Now our players are feeling victimised because he is the assistant coach so in some capacity he will have influence with [the national team selection]
It really all started from the foul [on him by James]. I dont know if he thought we would have taken it easy on him and tip-toed around him but we have a job to do. And if he wants to disrespect the game and the League to come out and play when there are younger players looking for the opportunity, then that is on him.
Wired868 was unable to get a response from national team manager Richard Piper on Stars complaints up until the time of publication.
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Stern will duss dem fellas off he shoulder, no problem..bringing up the half-slab talk :-[ :D
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half slab? I hear he is a full slab now.
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If the allegations are true, Stern made himself look a right a**hole. His objectivity is clearly compromised as assistant coach on the national team but I'm sure noone will do anything about it.
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As featured on an episode of the British quiz show, The Chase.
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It's even tough to make a calculated guess if you have no clue :rotfl:
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Ah Love it. . . :rotfl:
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John, Edwards pursue UEFA B License.
TTFA Media.
Former Trinidad and Tobago internationals Carlos Edwards and Stern John participated in the UEFA B License course last week with the Welsh Football Association.
Also involved as a participant in the eight-day course at Dragon Park alongside the T&T duo was former Chelsea star Michael Essien.
The course was aimed at educating candidates in the Technical, Tactical, Physical and Mental requirements of modern football, so that they may devise, organise, conduct and evaluate coaching sessions in the development of youth and senior players. During the week, there was also focus on unit analysis live from World Cup matches where candidates had to deliver on their topic and design a session around problems and solutions.
Im on the next side of the fence now so Im seeing it from the managers eyes. It really is a different point of view. It is about planning your sessions and delivering it over to the players, getting them to understand and execute what you want out of them for a particular match, a first half, a second half and in training, John told TTFA Media.
Edwards added, Its easy as a player to play the game but when you come back and look at it, it is challenging but at the same time you do learn along the way, Edwards said.
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Stern John selected as coach for MLS Caribbean Combine this week.
TTFA Media.
Former Columbus Crew standout and current Trinidad and Tobago Senior Mens Team assistant coach Stern John has been selected to serve as one of the coaches at the 2018 MLS Caribbean Combine in Bridgetown, Barbados from October 22-25, 2018.
MLS will also conduct the dual-location 2018 MLS Caribbean Combine in Kingston, Jamaica (October 15-18) and Bridgetown with John arriving in the latter location following his outing in Thailand with the T&T Senior team on Sunday.
The MLS Caribbean Combine is a result of the partnership between MLS and CONCACAF that serves as a pathway for the best players, under the age of 24, in the Caribbean area to showcase their talent for MLS clubs. Through an expanded format, this scouting opportunity has grown from one event, featuring 22 players from 15 countries, to two events this year featuring 40 players from up to 30 countries, with 20 players taking part both in Kingston and Bridgetown.
The most highly touted prospects will be named MLS Caribbean Combine Most Valuable Players and will earn invitations to the adidas MLS adidas Player Combine in Orlando.
MLS Caribbean Combine participants will be coached by Trinidad hero and one of the top goal scorers in MLS history, Stern John, as well as legendary Jamaican National Team and MLS stars Andy Williams, Wolde Harris, and Shavar Thomas. The Caribbean area has continually produced breakout MLS stars, including playoff-bound Jamaican-born New York Red Bulls defender Kemar Lawrence who participated in the inaugural Caribbean Combine, a MLS release stated.
On the selection, John said he was grateful for the opportunity to scout the best of new Caribbean talent.
Of course for me its a honour to be connected to the development of Caribbean football through the alliance with the MLS. The MLS is where it started for me in terms of really excelling in professional football. My days at Columbus Crew are unforgettable and my achievements there are among the best in my career along with my accomplishments in England and of course helping Trinidad and Tobago get to the World Cup in 2006, John told TTFA Media.
This is a wonderful opportunity for players in the Caribbean to be handed an opportunity to further their professional careers in a league that is consistently improving and developing as the MLS, added the current Central FC head coach.
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Stern pleased with MLS Combine role.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).
FORMER TRINIDAD and Tobago striker and current mens team assistant coach Stern John stated his delight in being part of the MLS Caribbean Combine last month.
John, during an interview at the Football For A Cause charity event recently, said, It was a pleasure being part of it. I have a lot of love for the MLS because the MLS played a pivotal role in my career.
Ive done really well there and for them to show their appreciation and (invite) me as a coach and one of the scouts was great.
The 41-year-old John, who is also the coach of Pro League team Central FC, continued, Its a good opportunity for the Caribbean players to showcase their skills. If they continue building it, we should (have) a bit more players in the MLS.
Another ex-national striker who is giving back to the game is Kenwyne Jones, who is serving as assistant coach to Nigel Grovesnor at QRC in the Secondary Schools Football League (SSFL).
To be honest, its pretty easy, said the 34-year-old ex-TT captain. As any player, when you get to the top level in football, and have such a long career, if you are not looking at football and having the viewpoint as a coach while youre playing, because that makes you a better player, in the coaching arena thats no different.
Jones retired from competitive football last year and he admitted, Its officially a year now actually but Im not missing anything. Im happy with where Im at.
Ive realised that now football is for the young and when youre going through your career, you dont think about how hard it is. When you stop and then go back to play, is when you realise how hard the work is. Im happy with the body of work Ive had for such a long time. Im not missing anything.
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Sterns son signed as scholar at Notts County.
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Sixteen year-old Stern Irvine, the son of Trinidad and Tobago top goalscorer and senior team assistant coach Stern John is currently on a path to following in the footsteps of his father of being a professional footballer in the United Kingdom.
Earlier this year, Irvine, age 16, was selected as a young scholar in English club Notts County and is currently playing for the clubs Under 16 and Under 18 teams. He plays right back or centre half.
As a young scholar he has been signed for two years during which time he will aim to break into the Notts County first team or sign a contract with another club as a first team player. He really is a junior scholar at this time, John told TTFA Media. Its something hes really worked hard towards and sacrificed for. He was at Nottingham Forest before but there were some health matters that forced him to be sidelined for a bit but he came back really well, maybe even stronger than before and now hes into the Notts County set up which is really good for him at his age.
The English-b0rn Irvine took about two months to prove himself before he was signed as a scholar or a semi-professional on a two-year deal. Hes hoping to push on and break into the first team.
I am happy to have been offered a scholarship at Notts County and thankful for the support of the people around me, my dad and the rest of my family. Im looking forward to the upcoming year and hopefully being able to break into the first team and pursuing a career in professional football, Irvine told TTFA Media. I know it requires a lot of hard work and discipline but Ive gotten a good feel of it and I will continue to develop as a player and a person through football, he added.
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How many UK based children Stern has?
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Ok, lets how this plays out. If he is good enough, will he want to for Eng. or TT?
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To be fair England is a stretch, he is 16 at Notts County who are bottom of League 2
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Ok, lets how this plays out. If he is good enough, will he want to for Eng. or TT?
England until he thinks that ship has sailed.
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Ok, lets how this plays out. If he is good enough, will he want to for Eng. or TT?
England until he thinks that ship has sailed.
I think that is understood with every player based in England or the US.
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WATCH: Shaun Fuentes and Stern John chat about #14's penchant for scoring goals and his club and national team career.
https://www.youtube.com/v/qkHrEy2Af0M
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WATCH: Shaun Fuentes and Stern John chat about #14's penchant for scoring goals and his club and national team career.
https://www.youtube.com/v/qkHrEy2Af0M
i like you very much stern and i doubt that theres another pure goal scorer waiting in the wings anytime soon, you were truly one of a kind our very own carlos pavone our neymar our deigo maradona, World Cup would have been only a dream without you........but...........
this may have came at a very inopportune time when football is dead in TT and the journalist may have jumped the gun on this. right now there are people stewpsing about our teams performance who may not want to hear about you dennis nor any of our past players ATM, particularly you and dennis.
you may have done yourself a huge disservice teaming up with SCF and dennis lawrence who ran our senior mens team in the sod. I dont think you have done yourself any favors in that regard, and whenever people see you now they wouldnt remember your 8 goals that lead us to a world cup, but instead the side kick who helped to bring football down.
I have never suffered from high blood pressure one day in my life, but since Sunday my pressure was high, and im sure im not alone in that regard. what you should do is take that experience you got with your coaching stint to build on your CV and continue to learn until the time is ripe, but for now please stick to developmental coaching which is needed in TT more than anything else.
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Catching up with - Stern John
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Stern John was always a man for the big moments. He scored plenty of goals in his career, more than 200 in total, but seemed to specialise in finding the net when it mattered most. During his two and a half years at Birmingham City he contributed to some of the most significant results in the Clubs recent history.
John earned a reputation for scoring decisive goals with just seconds remaining. Each time he wheeled away in celebration, tore off his shirt and was mobbed by delirious teammates. From the Den to Villa Park, deep in enemy territory, he delivered. Its easy to forget that there was another injury-time goal against Newcastle United too.
Amongst some stiff competition, the equaliser against Aston Villa stands out. Im like a cult hero in Birmingham for scoring that goal, you know? It feels good, says John. Even though Im in Trinidad now, when I come back to Birmingham people still remember it. They sing Stern John in the last minute. Its a great feeling. Whenever Im at the Bullring I hear people singing it. Im like Oh my god. Everyones looking at me. Birmingham is a special, special club. I love Birmingham.
For someone who dreamed of playing in England from a young age, John certainly left his mark. Growing up on the island of Trinidad that prospect seemed a long way off but he was inspired by the example of Dwight Yorke and managed to follow in his footsteps.
At 16 he was scouted while playing for his local club, Malta Carib Alcons, and offered a scholarship to move to America and study at Mercer County Community College in New Jersey. John went there determined to make the most of the opportunity.
It was good. It was a different experience. When I was younger, I went to the US to play in the Dallas Cup with my club team, but Id never had the experience of living there by myself. It was a big culture change. It was a lot better than playing in Trinidad, but my main aim was always to move to the UK to play football.
After finishing his education, John played in the A-League for Carolina Dynamos and New Orleans Riverboat Gamblers. His big break came in 1998 when he signed for Columbus Crew and went on to win the MLS Golden Boot in his first season.
Theyre fond memories. I scored 26 goals in one season, which was a record in MLS for a of years. I had a hunger for scoring goals. I used to love scoring goals and I wanted to leave Trinidad to make a better life for myself and my mom. I was hungry for success, he says.
Johns prolific form continued with another 18 goals the following year and European clubs were taking notice.
No one ever knew but I signed a pre-contract agreement with Bayer Leverkusen. But I never went. Graham Taylor saw me playing for Columbus and wanted to sign me but David Platt came and hijacked the deal. He flew over to New York and I met him there.
The interest from Nottingham Forest was too tempting and forced John to break his promise to Leverkusen. His new club helped to foot the bill and ensure his dream move to England could be completed.
As a young kid growing up in Trinidad we always used to get English football games on TV on a Saturday and a Sunday. I wanted to play in England because Dwight Yorke was there and Shaka Hislop too. It was somewhere Id wanted to go for a number of years.
It was a culture shock. I came in November and I was freezing my socks off, he laughs. But I knew it was something Id wanted to do for a long time, so I had to adapt and I did. I enjoyed it. I loved every minute of it. The football was really different. It was a lot quicker and a lot more physical. It was way more exciting.
After signing for 1.5million John scored on his debut for Forest and was doing well until he suffered a cruciate ligament injury. While the club continued to fallshort of promotion, financial difficulties descended and a clause in Johns contract led to him being left out of the team. Already on 14 goals they couldnt risk him scoring another one.
If I scored 15 goals, theyd have to pay the MLS $250,000 and they couldnt afford it, says the former Trinidad and Tobago international. Thats when Steve Bruce came in and I moved to Birmingham. I loved every moment at the club. Nottingham Forest was a special club, but Birmingham was too. I loved my Blues days.
Mired in mid-table when Bruce arrived, an impressive upturn in form took the club into the play-offs. Johns seven goals in 15 games, including winners against Barnsley and Norwich City, was a big factor. There was a huge change. Bruce did really well in trying to rebuild and reaching the Premiership changed the face of the Club.
Promotion had long eluded Birmingham, but their cruel run of play-off semi-final defeats was decisively ended by Johns strike against Millwall. After a 1-1 draw at St. Andrews, a tight and tense second leg was heading for extra time when Martin Grainger hooked the ball hopefully into the box, it broke to Steve Vickers and his low cross was turned in from close range.
I had an opportunity to score before and I messed up. I got a second chance and I buried it. The fans went mad. It was an electric atmosphere. It was an amazing feeling. Its something that you cant express but we worked hard for it and we had a great team, says John.
Millwall didnt take it well with what happened after the game. We had to get security to leave the stadium. It was a bit crazy, but we were euphoric.
That momentum was taken into the showdown at the Millennium Stadium, where Blues recovered from falling behind to take the final to penalties after John set up Geoff Horsfields equaliser. In the shootout he stepped up first to score past Rob Green in the Norwich goal.
It was nail-biting, recalls the striker. Oh my god. I was a bit nervous to be fair, but I just did enough to beat the keeper with the pace of the ball. I remember a young Darren Carter scoring the final penalty for us to get to the Premiership.
It was a huge moment for me and my family. The Premiership is massive in the Caribbean. Back home in Trinidad there were only a few guys whod played there and I had the opportunity to join them.
It was a huge step. The Premiership was a different kettle of fish altogether. The Championship is one of the hardest divisions Ive played in but there was so much quality in the Premiership. You have to be technically better, and fitter than before. I remember going away and training with the military to get myself in good shape.
The extra work paid off as Blues were able to survive in the top flight after a tough start. John scored the clubs first ever Premier League goal, from the penalty spot against Everton, and also grabbed a well-taken brace in a win away to West Ham United just days after he knocked Leyton Orient out of the League Cup with a hat-trick.
The arrival of strikers like Christophe Dugarry and Mikael Forssell gradually restricted Johns involvement but he still made his presence felt when coming on as asubstitute, most notably with Blues trailing 2-1 to Aston Villa deep into injury time.
With the final whistle imminent Darren Purse thumped the ball forward in hope, Clinton Morrisons shot was palmed away, and John was on hand to fire into the roof of the net to rescue a point and prolong the clubs unbeaten run in derby games. Only once did Birmingham City lose when he was on the scoresheet.
Although John left the club a few months later to join Coventry City it was a perfect parting gift that will never be forgotten. There was another promotion to the Premier League with Sunderland, followed by spells at Southampton and Crystal Palace. He announced his retirement in 2012 and returned home. After a brief comeback John started to focus on coaching instead.
I came back to Trinidad and I wanted to help the national team out. With my experience I still had a lot to offer the game. I played a bit, but it was just to give something back to the country that I was born in. Im just coaching with the Trinidad team now. Im the assistant to Dennis Lawrence for the mens senior team and Im head coach of the Under-17s, he explains.
It can be a bit difficult. I was born in Trinidad, but I learned my trade in the UK. We could be a bit more professional but obviously we have a lot of financial problems. We havent been paid in months but for me its about giving back to my country and helping them as much as I can. I would like to coach a club in the UK or the US one day but Im not ready yet.
As a player John was part of his countrys finest moment on the international stage, qualifying for the 2006 World Cup where they faced England. He was unable to score on that occasion but still boasts an incredible strike rate of 70 goals in 115 appearances for Trinidad and Tobago. Although Cristiano Ronaldo has overtaken his total, Lionel Messi lags behind.
Johns understandably proud of being in such elite company. When I retired from football I was the fourth-highest goalscorer of all-time in internationals. Coming from a small country like Trinidad thats a fantastic achievement. Its something I hold close to my heart because I love scoring goals. I was up there with some of the biggest names in the world.
An iconic figure in his own country, John retains important ties to England, both family and friends. My son was at Nottingham Forest and hes at Notts County now. Hes 17. I still have my flat in Birmingham and Im back there every Christmas. I meet up with Dele Adebola and some of the other guys too.
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Stern John: I would wash Bertille's car for extra finishing sessions
By Stern John (pushinglimits.net)
There are certain times of the year you always think about playing with the Trinidad and Tobago Team. And these moments are reflected on based on certain matches and what it brought to us as players and the country on the whole.
One of the greatest memories I have playing at the Hasely Crawford Stadium is against Mexico. It's something you dream of as a kid, wanting to play professional football, wanting to play in a World Cup and then hey the dream came true . It was a great feeling.
Against Mexico it was maybe one of the first times we were so focused as a team I think collectively as a team we knew we could get there. We just needed to get it right. I think the win in Panama set us up nicely for the Mexico outing. We came back home and we just knew we had to leave it all out on the pitch and get the result. From the get go we went at it.
We got a penalty and the keeper saved my penalty.I tried to put it just to his left but he guessed right and got his body behind it. There was not even a chance of a rebound. I couldnt let that get to me and I just had to pick myself and go. I was shocked but of course at the time itself, in a split second you have to decide whats next. The stadium was packed out and I knew people were looking for something to happen. We had started so well and yea I was thinking Ive let the country down. But this was no time to go into a shell. I think my experience of playing over the years and playing at a high level helped me. The result in Panama and the fact we were doing well meant my confidence was on a high as well. So it was like hey, forget this and just keep playing. The pressure heading into the game was immense but we had to deal with it right in those moments.
We went 1-0 down with a blinder from the Mexican on the far side and now youre thinking okay this cant get any worse now cant it. But the script was far from over. Fortunately we came back and what a comeback it was. I still get goosebumps when I'm on the field at the Hasely Crawford Stadium sometimes and I have flashbacks about the game.
Aurtis Whitley took it to them, driving towards goal and his shot came off the post and I was in motion running towards the goal. The ball came in my direction and I was able to control the rebound. It happened perfectly because the goalkeeper was still within the goal. I remember having a similar chance in the match against Guatemala but the ball bundled over and went out. All I could remember thinking was yes Sterny you got them this time but still a lot of football to play.
After that we came out and it was the best second half of football Id ever seen in my life and to be part of, especially by a Trinidad and Tobago team. I remember in the dressing room at half time there wasnt much more being said other than just knowing what we had to come out and do in the second half.
I was able to score a blinder. What a fantastic finish if I could say so myself. One of those finishes you would never forget throughout your entire career. I remember it like yesterday. On the left side Latapy played one into Aurtis coming into the centre of the pitch. He tried to play one into me first time which was blocked out by the defender. Then he went with a tackle to try and win the ball back. It was a collision with him and the Mexican player and the ball ricocheted to me. At the time I was just thinking I needed an opportunity to make amends for the penalty the keeper saved in the first half. I remember taking the ball on the inside of the foot. I got a sweet bounce and it was set up perfectly for me on my left foot. And I just smashed it into the back of the net.
The feeling was amazing. I think the whole atmosphere in the stadium was amazing. The fans went mad. I remember running to the side of the pitch celebrating with my arms pumping. The Ex-Minister of Sport was on the sidelines and he was the first one to give me a high five. It was chaos at the time. There was still some time left in the game and I remember us saying to each other that we couldnt let this slip. I think we got even better as the game progressed. We had a couple more great chances to score again. The game was really electric. We know we needed to win to get to the playoffs and once we did that we knew we could be just a couple steps away from qualifying for the World Cup. Our journey was continuing and we had to stay the course.
The Beenhakker Influence
For me Leo Beenhakker was one of the greatest managers Ive ever played with. Some of the fans used to say he was my dad. He was relaxed at half time in that match. I mean, this is an international manager were speaking about who had coached some of the biggest teams in the world and some of the biggest players like Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten and others. We came out of the blocks quickly in the second half and the fans were amazing. They were the 12th man in a big way that night.
As a striker you play on confidence. Most strikers are confident people. You always want to score goals and when you are not scoring it can get to you, it plays on your mind especially when the fans are on your back. Thats part of the game and thats what you signed up for. You just need to keep your head down. I think as a striker you are going to miss more chances than you score. The important thing is to keep playing and staying focused. I told myself during the drought, hey dont panic. Just keep doing what you know and its going to come. I know I am a natural goalscorer. I can score goals. Sometimes all you need is that one break, a ball ricochets and goes into the net and then you start banging them in. For young strikers you just have to keep doing things the right way and work hard. Dont try to change it up too much. Of course you can try to improve your skill.
I had a coach in Leo who was very supportive of me. He kept saying he believed in me and he kept urging me to keep at it. And when you score, celebrate and tell them what you have to tell them. Even my teammates around kept supporting me in the dressing room as they knew what I was capable of.Of course people give you a lot of stick and maybe I thought it was unfair at times but thats part of the game. The fans pay their money. I think they were accustomed seeing me scoring goals and when they were seeing me not putting it in they had all the reason to ask aye whats going on with Stern. My teammates and the staff kept supporting me throughout and Ill never forget that part of what wed been through.
Now that I am a manager or a coach I am looking at the game differently. I have tried to parcel my experiences to pass it on. I am a very passionate player and Im bringing that into the coaching now. After my first two years Im adjusting my approach now because it takes understanding the environment and the dressing room a lot more. The culture in Trinidad and Tobago is a bit different. You need to put your hands around some of the players and then some of them need a good extra push to get them going.
There needs to be a balance because weve got to be careful also. I try to pass on my experiences of playing in the UK and in the MLS to the players now. Some of our players now never had a solid base so we have to got to start from scratch with them. As a coach in Trinidad we have to be a bit more patient. You dont want to have too much of a strong go with some players and then you end up losing them and there are others you need to give a little extra in order to get a reaction from them.
I enjoy coaching and I love doing it. I never thought I would enjoy it this much. When I stopped playing I stayed away from the game for a few years because I wasnt sure. But then I said I could do this. I think just being in Trinidad and not giving back to the game was being a bit selfish. I tried doing other businesses and I just wasnt enjoying it. I want to play my part and I enjoy the experience of trying to help create better players and giving them an opportunity to become better and go on to play at a higher level and represent the country. I can get up at any time in the morning to go to a training session.
David Platt, Steve Bruce and Roy Keane
Platty had a massive role in me going to the UK. He came to Columbus Crew and saw me. Actually he hijacked the deal because I was on my way to Watford. The deceased Graham Taylor was interested in me in a big way. I knew David came to Ohio and took me to Nottingham Forest. A lot of people didnt know that I signed for Bayer Leverkusen. They were actually paying my salary to stay in the MLS and when my contract was over I was going to head to Germany. I had already signed the dotted line. Then Platty came in and met me in New York. It was then between Watford, Forest and Leverkusen. I went to Nottingham Forest which was a breach of contract because I had already signed with Leverkusen. The money they were paying for me for the last six or seven months we had to pay it back. Forest had to end up paying it back. I still have my Leverkusen jersey at home. My close friends asked me why I never went to Leverkusen but I had grown up watching English football every weekend. And of course a lot of the guys were in England like Yorkie and Shaka. Not that it wouldnt haven been enjoyable in Germany but I just felt it was a better and more convenient fit at the time to go to England. It was the place to be and I have no regrets to this day.
When I first met David Platt I was starstruck. Wow this is David Platt. I was accustomed seeing him play for Sampdoria, seeing him play for Arsenal and scoring against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup. I signed the deal and when I got to Forest in November he picked me up personally in his big Mercedes and drove me to the hotel. He looked after me from day one and he was always like a mentor to me. We used to do a lot of extra stuff on the training ground. Even the bicycle goal he scored against Belgium is something he used to practice from what he told me. I was fortunate to play alongside him coming down to the end of his career because he was a player manager at Forest.
He always would say to me that when he played in Italy he would observe the players doing extra work after practice. He used to say this is something I want you to learn and get accustom to doing extra work and it is something I actually picked up from then, going out there and just doing the little extras to try and get better at it. Personally I wasnt the quickest so my technical ability had to get better. And he made me a better player technically at that stage of my career.
I remember after training, he would use the belly of the net, put the ball on it and bicycle it out from that spot. It was amazing just working with him on the training pitch. Going to a club like Nottingham Forest was massive. They were a big club winning the European Cup and having a lot of history. Ian Wright also played at Forest and of course he was one of the big strikers who was black and doing really big things.
I scored on my debut and Dwight and Shaka came down to the game and I was really buzzing. These guys are two legends who are playing in the Premiership and the fans were going crazy to see them there. There is no better feeling than to score on your debut at a new club. The pressure is so high playing in the UK, you have to keep producing and taking the opportunity when it comes because the competition for spots was also so intense. You couldn't be caught sleeping or straying for a second or else you could find yourself in the stands for weeks.
Then tragedy struck with the injury. It was the most difficult time of my career doing my cruciate ligament. I had injuries before but this was by far the most serious. It was really bad keeping me out for six to eight months. I was finally on a big stage playing for Forest and then this happens. It was maybe the most difficult time of my life at that point. Luckily I didnt have to do surgery and just had to do rehab for six months. But it was intense and I had rehab three times a day. It was a lot of work just to get me to be back on the training pitch. I remember going to Belgium to see a knee specialist and when I walked into the office I got to meet Gabriel Batistuta, an even bigger legend. He had a similar injury and was being treated at the time. Platty also gave me the chance to come to the US to be with the Gold Cup team in 2000. It was just to be part of the team and support the boys. After a while you get frustrated doing all this rehab. He used to call me Juice. So he said Juice go and be with the boys and get some time away. Take a week and relax. They gave me a programme do to while I was away.
It set me back because when you have those type of injuries it takes you a while to come back and you dont feel like yourself even when you are back to fitness. I think it did cost me something. It cost me the chance to move to a bigger Premiership club from Forest. But I had to make my mind up to work my socks off to get back into the game. I had two major cruciate ligament and cartilage injuries during my career. Maybe now I can motivate other players who have a down time like I did. I was asking why this happened to me. But I got an opportunity play in England and I wasnt going to let that be taken away from me. This is where I wanted to be at the time, playing in England. I didnt want to think about going back to Trinidad or the US.
Steve Bruce and Roy Keane came from that Man United culture and that environment where every single time you go out to train you have to put in heavy work. There was no letting up. You have to put it all in on the training field and then take it into the game. Brucey was a good manager. I had some big moments under him, taking Birmingham to the playoffs and then moving up to the Premiership. Getting to the playoff finals was something the club was preparing for for number of years and then getting there and winning on penalties made it even more incredible. I remember scoring that goal in the last minute against Aston Villa to equalise in the Premiership. Thats the big derby and up to this day when I walk the streets in Birmingham whenever I am there the fans would sing Stern in the last minute in the last minute !!! They always talk about it. That one goal gives you legendary status at a club.
Roy Keane was top man. He gives you everything to get the job done.
I remember if we went to a hotel for an away game and the player wasnt happy with a bed, he would get it sorted because he would say I would do what I need to for you as a player now just go and me results on the pitch. Again, he is from the culture where they know what it takes to win. He used to join in the boxes to play with us and he demonstrated top skill and technical ability. He would be driving the ball into me to control in the box. I remember staying back with him and Yorkie sometimes and he would just be firing balls into me.
He was so passionate and maybe over the top at times but he was all about the game. Like younger players had to put that work in. If a younger player was mouthing off a senior player in training he would never have it. He would tell the senior player to send him in. And he would fine him as well. You always had to have respect around him. He is a manager I will never forget. He signed me twice actually. I remember when I had to leave Sunderland to go Southampton he called me into this office and he was honest about it. He said I cant promise you are going to play every week. He said youre going to play but I cant promise youre going to start. If you want you can stay and fight for your place but I have an option for you to go and get first team football . I respect him for that. Some managers would maybe run you around for the season. I went to Southampton and Kenwyne came to Sunderland. I shook Roys hands and he was honest with me.
Playing with Dwight and Russell
I was always confident. Russell and Dwight were two of the bigger names in the team but I was banging in the goals in the net. I never felt threatened by them or being in their shadows. The team was playing for me because I was the striker. Those guys were also very encouraging. They werent coming to the Trinidad and Tobago team to be big players. They were already big players and didnt need to come in and prove themselves. Even our teammates knew their role and functions and that is what was so special about our team. Okay, we were the three main guys in the team and the ones who most people spoke about in the country. But we were all about doing what was necessary in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago football.
I learnt a lot from Dwight and I believe he was one of the best players in the world at one time and definitely the biggest players to come out of Trinidad and Tobago. We never had a striker scoring goals at such a high level in the Premiership and the Champions League. Thats not going to change. I think a lot of people didnt realise how good he was. His ability to get the ball into the goal and hold the ball up is second to
none. Its something that you cant teach. Its either you are born with it or you dont have it. You can work on certain things but you have to be born with a certain ability. I remember sometimes Leo would be frustrated in sessions because there were times we three would decide we were just going to use our left foot. My left foot developed more during this time. Up to now people think I am a left footer but I'm not.
Even up to this day I probably strike the ball better with my left foot and you can see Russell, wow, what a left foot he has and Dwight could pipe it with his left as well.
The Bertille St Clair era
I have to give Bertille St Clair so much credit. I think most of my goals playing for Trinidad and Tobago was under him. I remember when I was younger he brought his BMW down from Tobago and I wanted extra finishing sessions I said coach you know what I will wash your car for you just to get some extra finishing. He would say alright he didnt like anything better. He would train whole day. I know hes passionate about the game. There were some things he wouldnt stand for because he was old school which people have to understand. He was an old school manager and they have to respect that. If you understand him and what he was trying to do then you would realise hey he is just trying to teach us the right way and have certain principles. He would always say man must have reasoning. He was a philosopher but he also taught us a lot. He taught me a lot on the pitch and also off it. It was harsh they way he treated a bit but thats football. Im not going to get too deep into it but he is one of the coaches who has done really well for Trinidad and Tobago football.
Ive spent a lot of time putting my thoughts together to try and give you a bit to take in. Theres a lot more to write or speak about. Ill leave here things for now and come back with another column for the site at another time.
Thanks for reading. Remember to always say true to yourself, keep supporting our football because we all want to see us rise again.
Sincerely,
Stern
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'They couldnt afford it' - the prolific striker that Nottingham Forest couldn't keep
By Barry Cooper (Nottingham Post)
Few on English shores were too familiar with the name Stern John when he arrived at Nottingham Forest from the MLS in 1999.
A powerful centre forward from Trinidad and Tobago, John had blitzed a goal trail in the United States, scoring 26 times for Columbus Crew which caught the eye of then Forest boss David Platt who stole a march on German Bundesliga side Bayer Leverkusen in a bid to see the Reds return to the top flight.
So keen to sign the striker, Platt flew to New York to meet John and sealed the deal, paying Crew 1.5m to bring him across the Atlantic, though clauses in the deal would later prove to be a stumbling block and see him sold for a relative pittance.
Having just been relegated from the Premier League, John was one of a host of new City Ground arrivals under the much-maligned Platt, which also included the likes of David Johnson, Jim Brennan, Riccy Scimeca and failed Italian trio Moreno Mannini, Gianluca Patrachi and Salvatore Matrecano.
John became a popular figure on Trentside, scoring 18 times in 49 starts, but Forest failed to secure a return to the Premier League which saw the club suffer dire financial problems.
Returning from a cruciate knee ligament injury, John went on to fire 14 goals for the Reds in what proved to be his final season.
A tale of what might have been...
With 14 goals to his name, Forest would have been forced to pay his former club $250,000 had he netted a 15 - the frontman was then sold to Birmingham City for a cut-price 100,000.
After leaving Forest for St Andrews in 2004 and helping Steve Bruce's Blues win promotion to the top flight, John moved across the Midlands to Coventry City, where he scored 29 goals in three years.
During that three-year spell, John made his way back to the East Midlands, spending a short loan spell at the Reds arch-rivals Derby County.
Stints at Sunderland, Southampton, Bristol City, Crystal Palace and Ipswich followed before joining non-league outfit Solihull Moors in 2012, though that move didnt last and he opted to retire and move back home.
Internationally, John was a big success for his country and helped them qualify for the 2006 World Cup, playing in all three group games including the defeat to England in Nuremberg.
The 43-year-old netted 70 times in 115 outings for his country, seeing him ranked 11 in the list of all-time top international scorers, above the likes of Lionel Messi, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Luis Suarez and Derby Countys Wayne Rooney.
His son, Stern Irvine used to be on the books at Forest, but now plays in Notts Countys Under-18s.
How did the move to Forest come about?
No one ever knew but I signed a pre-contract agreement with Bayer Leverkusen. But I never went. Graham Taylor saw me playing for Columbus and wanted to sign me but David Platt came and hijacked the deal.
He flew over to New York and I met him there, John told bcfc.co.uk in March.
As a young kid growing up in Trinidad we always used to get English football games on TV on a Saturday and a Sunday. I wanted to play in England because Dwight Yorke was there and Shaka Hislop too. It was somewhere Id wanted to go for a number of years.
It was a culture shock.
"I came in November and I was freezing my socks off.
But I knew it was something Id wanted to do for a long time, so I had to adapt and I did. I enjoyed it. I loved every minute of it.
The football was really different. It was a lot quicker and a lot more physical.
"It was way more exciting.
Speaking in January 2002, John spoke of his desire to stay in Nottingham
"My contract is up at the end of the season but we haven't been able to talk yet because of the financial situation," the former Trinidad international said after a 0-0 draw with Barnsley.
"I'd love to stay at Forest but if they can't afford me I'll have to move on because I've got my career to think about."
Why did his career at the City Ground come to an end?
If I scored 15 goals, theyd have to pay the MLS $250,000 and they couldnt afford it.
Thats when Steve Bruce came in and I moved to Birmingham.
I loved every moment at the club.
Nottingham Forest was a special club, but Birmingham was too. I loved my Blues days.
On promotion with Birmingham City
It was a huge moment for me and my family. The Premiership is massive in the Caribbean. Back home in Trinidad there were only a few guys whod played there and I had the opportunity to join them.
It was a huge step. The Premiership was a different kettle of fish altogether.
The Championship is one of the hardest divisions Ive played in but there was so much quality in the Premiership. You have to be technically better, and fitter than before.
I remember going away and training with the military to get myself in good shape.
What now?
I came back to Trinidad and I wanted to help the national team out. With my experience I still had a lot to offer the game. I played a bit, but it was just to give something back to the country that I was born in.
Im just coaching with the Trinidad team now. Im the assistant to Dennis Lawrence for the mens senior team and Im head coach of the Under-17s, he explains.
It can be a bit difficult. I was born in Trinidad, but I learned my trade in the UK.
We could be a bit more professional but obviously we have a lot of financial problems.
We havent been paid in months but for me its about giving back to my country and helping them as much as I can. I would like to coach a club in the UK or the US one day but Im not ready yet.
My son was at Nottingham Forest and hes at Notts County now.
Hes 17. I still have my flat in Birmingham and Im back there every Christmas.
I meet up with Dele Adebola and some of the other guys too.
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Anguilla snap up Stern, ex-Warriors star will lead minnows into 2022 WCQ campaign.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).
The Anguilla Mens National Senior Team have never scored a World Cup qualifying goal from open play, after five successive campaigns dating back to 5 March 2000.
However, for the Qatar 2022 World Cup qualifying series, Anguilla are set to be steered by one of the most prolific men in the business, as record Trinidad and Tobago international goalscorer Stern John has already agreed terms with the Anguilla Football Association (AFA).
Wired868 was unable to reach John for comment. However, an AFA source confirmed Johns new position which was agreed at the football bodys AGM on 31 October, with only red tape due to Covid-19 restrictions delaying his unveiling.
Anguilla, which has a population of just under 15,000 and still recognises Queen Elizabeth II as its monarch, had a total of three Covid-19 cases since the onset of the pandemic, with its last infection on 30 March. However, the tiny island did not take chances and only re-opened its international borders six days ago.
For John, a former 2006 World Cup player and England Premier League striker with Birmingham City and Sunderland, the Anguilla job is only his third appointment as a head coach.
The ex-Soca Warriors stand-out was promoted to head coach at Central FC in the midst of a mini-exodus of players and staffincluding coach Dale Sandersover unpaid salaries at the Pro League outfit in September 2017.
By then, John had already served seven months as assistant to then Soca Warriors head coach Dennis Lawrence. And, in March 2019, he steered the Trinidad and Tobago Mens National Under-17 Team to the Round of 16 in the Concacaf Championship, after group stage wins over Bermuda and Jamaica.
His last international posting was as assistant to Derek King for the Mens National Under-20 Team in January 2020. However, the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic meant the squad never played an international game before their coaches short term contracts expired in July.
And, with the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) paralysed by normalisation and then suspension by Fifa, Anguilla offered the 44-year-old coach a job.
It is not a task for the faint of heart. Anguilla are 209th from Fifas 210 active member associationsahead of only San Marinoand rock bottom of Concacafs 35 nations which are full members of the world governing body.
Infamously, Lawrence agreed to a friendly with Anguilla on 10 November 2019, as a means of snapping a record 14 game winless streak. And, at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva, the Warriors romped to a 15-0 win, which is simultaneously Trinidad and Tobagos highest margin of victory and Anguillas largest defeat.
Anguilla hope to have better luck with John in their technical area, rather than on the opposing side. In the process, the former El Dorado East Secondary student should become the fourth Trinidadian to head a Caribbean outfit at presentwhile Englishman Terry Fenwick is in charge of the Warriors.
Former Morvant Caledonia United coach Rajesh Latchoo has led the Dominica football team since 2017, while Morvant Caledonia technical director Jamaal Shabazz is the St Lucia head coach and Russell Latapy, arguably Trinidad and Tobagos most gifted former player, is the Barbados Mens National Senior Team head coach.
John is regarded as a competent, promising coach, albeit one renowned for a prickly, combative personality. His often abrasive style did not hold him back as a player.
The two-footed frontman, nicknamed Johnny Bravo by teammates, banged in a national record 70 goals from 115 international appearances, which makes him the world games 16th highest goal scorer of all timealongside Argentina sensation Lionel Messi, who played 23 games more.
Concacafs second best international scorers are Americans Clint Dempsey (57 goals from 141 caps) and Landon Donovan (57 goals from 157 caps), while the next highest Caribbean marksman is Antigua and Barbuda forward Peter Byers, with 43 goals from 86 appearances.
John also leads all Trinidad and Tobago scorers with 20 World Cup qualifying goals from 49 outings, followed by Steve David (16 goals/14 WCQ caps) and Angus Eve (12 goals/35 WCQ caps).
In contrast, Anguilla have played 10 World Cup qualifying matches in total with the action usually confined to the wrong end of the field. The minnows have conceded 41 times with just two successful penalties to show for their endeavours.
Anguillas first qualifying goal was scored by Kenneth Hughes in a 3-1 loss to Bahamas at their Webster Park headquarters on 5 March 2000. And their second and last item at this level came in the return leg against Bahamas, when Richard OConner also scored from the spot in a 2-1 loss at Nassau. They are on a 10-year scoring drought at present in that particular competition.
AFA president Girdon Connor will hope things are different in the 2022 campaign for more reasons than one.
Concacafs new World Cup qualifying schedule was derided by mid-tier football nations like Trinidad and Tobago for offering a trickier route to Qatar. However, it looks to be a revelation for less fancied football nations like Anguilla.
In previous campaigns, Anguilla had one home-and-away playoff tie to advance to the group stagesand, one goalless draw to the Dominican Republic apart, lost every outing. However, the new format sees the minnows drawn automatically in Group D.
So, for the first time, Anguilla are assured of eight qualifying matches rather than just two. And if John can spring a surprise in just one of them, it would be an unprecedented feat for his employers.
Ironically, Johns pain is likely to mean despair for at least one of his compatriots.
Anguilla are drawn with Latchoos Dominica and Latapys Barbados in Group D, along with the Dominican Republic and clear favourites, Panama. Shabazzs St Lucia are in Group E alongside Haiti, Nicaragua, Belize and the Turks and Caicos Islands.
Trinidad and Tobago are seeded in Group F where, once their Fifa suspension is lifted, they will face St Kitts and Nevis, Guyana, Puerto Rica and Bahamas. Concacafs 2022 World Cup qualifying rounds are due to kick off in March 2021.
Johns team comprises solely of amateur players, led by 39-year-old goalkeeper Ryan Liddie, who has 31 international caps.
Anguilla, a Fifa-recognised member association since 1996, have played a total of 42 full international games with one win apiece against Montserrat (ranked 184) and the British Virgin Islands (ranked 208), four draws against the Bahamas, Dominican Republic, United States Virgin Islands and Montserrat and 36 lossesincluding two defeats to Trinidad and Tobago at an aggregate of 25 goals to zero.
John, who is expected to travel with a strength and conditioning coach, has his work cut out. However, unlike the Soca Warriors, at least Anguilla are certain of seeing action for the Qatar campaign.
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Well, at least someone got something out of that Anguilla match.
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Good for Stern.
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Congrats and Good luck!!!
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Instant move to earn credibility by his appointed team position?
Organize a friendly against TnT right now we ripe for the picking.
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Stern gave an interview with The Athletic here;
Fancy playing for Anguilla? Stern John needs you.
By Gregg Evans
A wonderfully-worded answer rolls off the tongue of Stern John as he tackles the testing early question about his new job as manager of Anguilla.
Why would you want to manage one of the worst teams in the world with a FIFA ranking of 209 out of 210?
Because I started at the bottom as a player and made it into the Premier League and I want to do the same as a coach.
It would be easy to assume that a sweet-sounding reply as good as the one John delivered had been manufactured over time. But this is the 44-year-olds first interview since moving to the tiny Caribbean island to take over the national team, and any doubts over his commitment were extinguished quickly.
Pleasantries had barely been exchanged before his work phone started ringing. On the opposite end was a staff member keen to know more about the training schedules for the week ahead. Another call, this time from the kit man, quickly followed, and it wasnt long...
https://theathletic.com/2300508/2021/01/05/stern-john-anguilla-interview?source=user-shared-article
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Stern gave an interview with The Athletic here;
Fancy playing for Anguilla? Stern John needs you.
By Gregg Evans
A wonderfully-worded answer rolls off the tongue of Stern John as he tackles the testing early question about his new job as manager of Anguilla.
Why would you want to manage one of the worst teams in the world with a FIFA ranking of 209 out of 210?
Because I started at the bottom as a player and made it into the Premier League and I want to do the same as a coach.
It would be easy to assume that a sweet-sounding reply as good as the one John delivered had been manufactured over time. But this is the 44-year-olds first interview since moving to the tiny Caribbean island to take over the national team, and any doubts over his commitment were extinguished quickly.
Pleasantries had barely been exchanged before his work phone started ringing. On the opposite end was a staff member keen to know more about the training schedules for the week ahead. Another call, this time from the kit man, quickly followed, and it wasnt long...
https://theathletic.com/2300508/2021/01/05/stern-john-anguilla-interview?source=user-shared-article
Want to move up in the ranking ? Take on TnT Ina friendly-
Ripe for the picking
Then again " Burris" always had an inflated ego
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LISTEN: Anguilla national team Head Coach Stern John talks about his new job and his hunt for new players. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cszth7)
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LISTEN: Anguilla national team Head Coach Stern John talks about his new job and his hunt for new players. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cszth7)
Anguilla's outsourcing project.
Any player with a Feyenoord connection is a safe bet.
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Anguilla and BVI to lock heads on Thursday, January 27. In keeping with one of the prior posts, the service of a former Dutch JNT player has been secured for the engagement against BVI. Match to be played in England apparently.
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what is wrong with the development of football players in the WI? we have to be continually hunting for foreign talent in all these islands.
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what is wrong with the development of football players in the WI? we have to be continually hunting for foreign talent in all these islands.
Is there a developmental program for footballers in the WI?
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what is wrong with the development of football players in the WI? we have to be continually hunting for foreign talent in all these islands.
Is there a developmental program for footballers in the WI?
Exactly the issue- Most of the nations focus on the ultimate WC/ Gold Cup performances with instant individual players as oppose to putting in place programs to develop successful teams.
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what is wrong with the development of football players in the WI? we have to be continually hunting for foreign talent in all these islands.
Just an Opinion. Very difficult to solve due to the amount of variables.
Finances, status - personal and social, Time, Early and current Emigration of potentials and future offspring for Education and Career opportunities, Lack of On island competition pool., lack of Knowledgeable and wide experience support - even if some do return (or stay) and give totally of themselves, Political climate and Agendas.
I think no alternative but to consider all possibilities for international successes, especially the better the development process, the more emigration would most likely occur.
Not considering US college scene, here's a partial example of loss of visual, demonstrative and competitive ppl that would affect a more positive and rapid developmental process.
From socawarriors.net
https://www.socawarriors.net/players-abroad.html
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Anguilla and BVI to lock heads on Thursday, January 27. In keeping with one of the prior posts, the service of a former Dutch JNT player has been secured for the engagement against BVI. Match to be played in England apparently.
2-1 victory for Anguilla.
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WATCH: Prior to the match against British Virgin Islands, Anguilla faced Windsor FC in a preparation match at Stag Meadow. The following is a vlogged perspective of that encounter. Windsor FC campaigns in the Combined Counties Football League, Premier Division North. Match played on Tuesday, January 25.
The opening goal was conceded via a free kick (14'). Two other goals resulted from the penalty spot (63' and 70'). Two goals in the run of play followed (79' and 90'+2).
https://www.youtube.com/v/0Md69sCJqy8
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Stern John appointed Head Coach of St. Lucia's Men's National Senior Team
Saint Lucia Football Association
The St Lucia Football Association is pleased to confirm the appointment of Stern John as Head Coach of the Senior Mens National Team.
Stern John, former standout player for Trinidad and Tobago, appearing at the 2006 FIFA World Cup Finals for the Soca Warriors has also served as the Head Coach for the Anguilla Mens Senior National Team and is a former Assistant Coach for the Trinidad and Tobago Senior Mens Team. He was also the head coach of the Trinidad and Tobago U-17 Mens Team in 2019.
At club level, John has won the Trinidad and Tobago Professional League title with Central FC in 2017. And in 2018 he led the club to winners row in Group B of the CONCACAF Caribbean Club Championship Group stage, helping the team to advance to the Finals where they placed fourth. In 2016, as Assistant Coach, he helped to guide Central FC to the Caribbean Football Union Club Championship title.
As a player, John amassed 70 goals in 115 international appearances for his country and is currently 18th on the list of Leading Goalscorer in International football.
John played in the English Premiership for Birmingham City, winning the clubs leading goalscorer award in 2003; other clubs which he played for include Nottingham Forest, Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Derby County, Coventry City, Southampton and Bristol Rovers. He won an English Championship Division winners medal with Sunderland in 2007.
He won the American Major League Soccer (MLS) Top scorer award in 1998, with 26 goals for Columbus Crew in 1998, also earning selection on the MLS All Star team that year.
Commenting on the appointment, John expressed delight on his new role.
I am delighted to have been appointed head coach of the St Lucia Mens National Team. Id like to this opportunity to thank the President of the FA and his team for showing their confidence in me with the appointment, John said.
A new journey begins this month and I believe that with the right mindset and with a proper, calculated approach with the necessary support, we can put St Lucia back on the football map in our region.
History shows that this island has produced some quality players in the past who have played professional football in Europe in countries such as England and Portugal. This is evidence that there are talented and capable players in St Lucias football. Its just to get that belief again among the players and people of St Lucia again.
The President and the FA have a clear vision of what they want to achieve and the direction they want to take the football. I will give it my all to try and bring some level of respect and stability to the National Team and hopefully some smiles to the people of St Lucia again, John added.
Johns first order of business with be preparing the Senior Mens Team for its opening CONCACAF Nations League encounter away to Dominica on June 9th and at home to Anguilla on June 12th.
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man moving up the ' minnow's ladder"- watch out TnT pressure ;D :D