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Title: Stern John Thread
Post by: Flex on July 03, 2005, 06:27:16 AM
Q&A with Stern John.
By Shaun Fuentes.


1. What’s your most memorable moment or match, whether for country or Club?
Taking Birmingham City to the Premiership. Scoring the hattrick against Colombia in Miami. Scorer the winner over Honduras in memory of Mickey, very emotional time for me. When I won the MLS topscorer award in 1998. Most recently scoring the opening goal in Panama to quiet the critics, just winning that game was something we haven’t experienced in a while, for the players and the die-hard fans. Hope you reading this are one of them or will soon be one.


2. Name two persons, whether relative or not who have been an inspiration to you.
Dwight Yorke from day one. Growing up watching the Strike Squad, and seeing him make it big in England from a third world country. That has been a major inspiration to me. My uncles and my brother Kenwyne John. When I used to come up for Dallas Cup, he used to drive us around, be around at the hotel, he’s much older than I am and he lives in Miami. Always been there for me. I tend to inspire myself because I’ve always wanted to be successful. I know how much hard work it takes to reach there. I want to make full use of a talent and I hope I can encourage others as well whether it be football or any other gift

3. Any favourite player or team?
Back in the days I always liked Marco Van Basten, Roberto Baggio. David Platt – I was privileged to play with him when he also signed me at Forest. He’s a legend. Imagine Platty was so flexible that when the ball stuck in the belly on top the goal, he used to bicycle it out. Then there’s Dwight, I think they are two of the greatest I’ve been privileged to play with.

4. You preferred other profession? SWAT (said with a big laugh).
I really like anything that has a lot of excitement.  Something that’s really exciting. A state trooper chasing bad guys on the roads. I just like that adrenalin rush flow..

5. What do you hope to accomplish either in next 5 years or end of playing career?
Right now it’s helping Trinidad and Tobago to the next World Cup. That’s like a dream come true for me and my family, for all the guys on the team, for everyone in the country really. It going to be a feeling you can’t really explain. We all know we can’t do it as a one man show and right now we have been doing it really well as a team with the new gaffer and we have all intentions of keeping it up. The new gaffer has instilled a lot into the team – a lot of passion and maybe that is what we were missing before. Giving a lot more. We tend to be too passive and he’s getting us to play with a lot more emotion.

6. Who’s been among your most admired coaches and why?
I liked Rene Simoes and the current man in charge, Leo Beenhakker. Then there’s also Anton Corneal. Those coaches allow the players express themselves. They work with a plan and they know how to get players to execute to the best of their ability. I think in coaching, player management is very critical… how you going about in doing that is vital in a coach
 
7. What do you think of T&T’s chances of making it to the 2006 World Cup.
We have a good chance still .We started off slow but now after that Panama game we have shown that we have what it takes. We just have to keep it up. We were unfortunate to have the Mexico game so quickly after Panama. We gave up two silly goals but I’m not going to blame anyone because we win as a team and lose as  a team. I was disappointed though to have played like that and then lose like that. The only thing I didn’t understand is that we played so well and yet we lost and people thought we did really well.  That made the result even more disappointing for me. The team is much more organized now than ever before.
 
8. Any instances or plays that you always reflect on.
The disappointments just make me stronger and wanting to work harder. Having gotten so far, you never want to give up. At least I don’t. . I’m not one to go into a shell when the going gets tough.  Arthur “Jap” Brown who coached me at “El Do” and at Trincity United, always used to say it’s not that hard to get to the top but it’s how you maintain it or got higher was what was the difficult part. So far I have no regrets in my career.

9. What’s the best piece of advice you’ve received?
My Mom Janet always used to say just go and do it to the best of your ability. Maybe that’s why I’m so competitive whether it be a fun game or something with high stakes involved.

10. What do you do to relax away from the game.
I’m a big movie collector. I also watch some DVDs and tapes of my old goals.  I also look at the old video Columbus Crew sent to David Platt which was really what he saw  before me signing at Forest.

11. What’s your favorite dish?
I eat too much lobster (laughs) and anyone who knows me knows that I love chicken… the healthy part – the centre breast.

12. Favourite drink.
A slow Gin and Vodka orange and cranberry when I’m out, away from football.

13. Favourite time of year?
Christmas because it’s all about family and close friends. Being  in England for the last five years or more more away from home family and mates makes you tend to miss it a bit more.We also play through Christmas in England but still it doesn’t matter where you are in the world, you still tend to enjoy it. I also celebrate two Christmas’ in England and T&T  because of the time zones (Laughs).

14. Most comfortable football boot?
Adidas.

15. Any advice to young and upcoming ones?
Set goals and go after them. Some get it faster and easier but never compare yourself with others. You can idolize others and take pointers, but you have to be yourself. There nothing that can replace hard work. Be truthful to yourself. Be true to the game like Michael said.

A note from Stern himself:

Hope you fans enjoyed that! Currently I'm in Miami with the Trinidad and Tobago National Team preparing for the CONCACAF Gold Cup. We play our first game against Honduras on Wednesday at the Orange Bowl. Should be a pretty exciting game and I'm looking forward to it. I scored the lone goal against them to knock them out of the 2002 World Cup runnings and I also scored when we beat them 3-1 in the 1998 Gold Cup. Hopefully I can get another good performance in and we can be successful as a team once again.

Source:
www.sternjohn.com

Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: boss on July 03, 2005, 07:26:07 AM
Stern sounding confident which is a good thing. I cyah wait for de Honduras match....
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: Trini _2022 on July 03, 2005, 07:51:20 AM
. Who’s been among your most admired coaches and why?
I liked Rene Simoes and the current man in charge, Leo Beenhakker. Then there’s also Anton Corneal. Those coaches allow the players express themselves. They work with a plan and they know how to get players to execute to the best of their ability. I think in coaching, player management is very critical… how you going about in doing that is vital in a coach


Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: Trinimassive on July 03, 2005, 07:53:00 AM
Stern was very expressive in his interview...more so than some of the other fellas gave interviews. He said what was on his mind.

It was interesting to note that considering the many coaches he has worked under in the national team, he mentioned the ones that had a plan. As if working with a plan is/was not the norm ???

Ah like this one
10. What do you do to relax away from the game.
I’m a big movie collector. I also watch some DVDs and tapes of my old goals.  I also look at the old video Columbus Crew sent to David Platt which was really what he saw  before me signing at Forest.

The fella love heself boy. LOL
That is ah good thing though. Cause he always reminding heself what he capable of doing. He know he bound to score. Good attitude.
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: truetrini on July 03, 2005, 08:26:26 AM
triniman yuh vex he say anton eh?
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: Jumbie on July 03, 2005, 10:45:18 AM
triniman yuh vex he say anton eh?

Boss is 4th July long weekend and you here riding Triniman!..look..go chase some nanny on the beach nah!

Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: andre samuel on July 03, 2005, 12:05:26 PM
triniman yuh vex he say anton eh?

Boss is 4th July long weekend and you here riding Triniman!..look..go chase some nanny on the beach nah!

ah like dah one jumbie


ah also like de interview, and it is correct for one to say that he was very expressive in this one!


But de man eh mention bertile atall! in fact, it look like none ah de players and dem does mention bertile as one ah de coaches dey enjoy working wit (except yorke)
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: Touches on July 03, 2005, 02:57:55 PM
Andre, organize a interview with Derek King.......see wha he saying.
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: Trini _2022 on July 03, 2005, 03:32:17 PM
yeah andre arrange an interview with derick king nuh man where is he playing now for joe public.
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John.
Post by: andre samuel on July 03, 2005, 07:14:30 PM
Andre, organize a interview with Derek King.......see wha he saying.

lol......good one touches!
Title: Stern John Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 23, 2005, 06:12:19 AM
Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
By Alan Poole (Coventry Evening Telegraph)

 
Ricoh hero Dele Adebola insists that axed partner Stern John can still play a major role for Coventry City this season.

Adebola notched two goals on Saturday as the Sky Blues marked the first match at their £113million arena with a 3-0 triumph against Queens Park Rangers, and manager Micky Adams hailed his combination with summer signing James Scow-croft as “terrific - everything I wanted from a pair of strikers.”

But Adebola, clutching his man-ofthe-match champagne, interrupted the celebrations to give a vote of confidence to under-fire John.

“When he’s on top form, Stern should arguably be playing in the Premier League,” insisted Adebola.

“The fans have been on his back a bit but I think they can see what he offers the team.

“It’s just unfortunate that the first few games didn’t go according to plan, but as the season progresses he’ll get to full fitness and you’ll see the best of him. It’s not just Stern; I haven’t been happy with all of my performances.

“It’s a long hard season and I think the manager will rotate his strikers. We’ve got a really good collection of forwards here now and whatever partnership he goes for I think will do well.”
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: spideybuff on August 23, 2005, 06:33:33 AM
That was a real nice gesture there. The man understand that right now Stern in a situation where he feeling unwanted by everybody. Is like if your friends (Coventry) and family (Trinidad) cast you aside when you need them most, because u messed up. Tha's when you need them most, to get you back on your feet, and they not there. And the thing is, since Coventry win there and we going to beat Guatemala on the 3rd, is like u realise that things better without you. Tha's the kinda thing that is make children want to run away or even drive some people to suicide (I not talking about Stern here, eh,fellas, just in general).Taking the time to let Stern know that he still wanted and needed in the team will be a big and timely lift to the man.

I feel if he really doh make the squad for the 3rd, we need to put up some kind of "We still love you Stern" or maybe put a billboard of him up somewhere in the stadium so he know we eh abandon him after so much years of brilliance and committment. Stern hadda be a in a real mess confidence wise right now...
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: oconnorg on August 23, 2005, 07:21:41 AM
* sniff sniff * water came to my eyes when I read that post oui. I feeling sorry for de man now.. Doh get me wrong eh, I real pong stern too.. but i can understand that he might be under some pressha... We should really do something fuh him.!
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: Socafan on August 23, 2005, 08:13:10 AM
* sniff sniff * water came to my eyes when I read that post oui. I feeling sorry for de man now.. Doh get me wrong eh, I real pong stern too.. but i can understand that he might be under some pressha... We should really do something fuh him.!

Sorry....but Stern don't deserve my compassion until I see some effort from de man.....He not trying!!!  He does stan' up an expect ball to just reach he foot. Who does run ball like dat? Steups....

Stern........RIDE PINE!!!
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: maxg on August 23, 2005, 09:42:11 AM
That was a real nice gesture there. The man understand that right now Stern in a situation where he feeling unwanted by everybody. Is like if your friends (Coventry) and family (Trinidad) cast you aside when you need them most, because u messed up. Tha's when you need them most, to get you back on your feet, and they not there. And the thing is, since Coventry win there and we going to beat Guatemala on the 3rd, is like u realise that things better without you. Tha's the kinda thing that is make children want to run away or even drive some people to suicide (I not talking about Stern here, eh,fellas, just in general).Taking the time to let Stern know that he still wanted and needed in the team will be a big and timely lift to the man.

I feel if he really doh make the squad for the 3rd, we need to put up some kind of "We still love you Stern" or maybe put a billboard of him up somewhere in the stadium so he know we eh abandon him after so much years of brilliance and committment. Stern hadda be a in a real mess confidence wise right now...

How about a sign for the fella who Stern just beat out over the years...an one for the fellas who constantly just miss out on making the team, constantly...and one for who getting call to tryout and never selected...how about a sign for the rest of T&T who doh make..or one sign covering Stern and everybody reading


"WE LOVE YOU T&T"


Is only football, doh compare to a youth who get shut out of real life, I know many, and knew a few when they were alive...Stern plenty good still, an achieve plenty, more than a majority....3 cheers for Stern...Hip,hip,hip 

wait lehme open the window, ah ain't hearing allyuh

Hip, hip, hip
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: FireBrand on August 23, 2005, 10:15:58 AM
Spideybuff and occonnorg ah share all yuh sentiments. Does Stern deserve to be criticized for his game? Yes! Should Stern be benched? Yes! Should we give more deserving strikers a chance? Yes! Should we just cast him aside and watch him descend into oblivion? No! 
Stern was one of T&T's most prolific goal scorers. He dominated the MLS and has brought world attention to our 2 tiny islands. In all of his successes though, what I have admired the most about him is that he has always been there for T&T. Is this how we treat a fellow son of the soil who has given himself to his country? Come on people leh we show de man some compassion and respect. He at least deserves that...   
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: rocwell on August 23, 2005, 10:45:28 AM
Spideybuff and occonnorg ah share all yuh sentiments. Does Stern deserve to be criticized for his game? Yes! Should Stern be benched? Yes! Should we give more deserving strikers a chance? Yes! Should we just cast him aside and watch him descend into oblivion? No!
Stern was one of T&T's most prolific goal scores. He dominated the MLS and has brought world attention to our 2 tiny islands. In all of his successes though, what I have admired the most about him is that he has always been there for T&T. Is this how we treat a fellow son of the soil who has given himself to his country? Come on people leh we show de man some compassion and respect. He at least deserves that...

Well said, some of these same posters cried and tore their hair when they perceived Latapy as betraying them, yet when the shoe is on the other foot, they wish to quickly forget one of our best and most committed.
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: Savannah boy on August 23, 2005, 09:55:44 PM
But rocwell, committment doh include snapping at man heels, setting up goals and proper fitness?
Title: Re: Dele Adebola's toast to Stern John
Post by: kounty on August 23, 2005, 10:23:32 PM
But rocwell, committment doh include snapping at man heels, setting up goals and proper fitness?

stern reaching back brother, he lose a lot of the weight that was slowing him down...but is match fitness that go keep him running down them bal and them for 90 mins..and sadly, now when he need it is when he look like he goin' and get bench....but doh forget stern at all...this world funny, keep encouraging him, and maybe he will come back to the stern we all know for the world cup...how much better that will be!!!
Title: Stern John Thread
Post by: prodigy23 on September 03, 2005, 04:30:11 PM
Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini _2022 on September 03, 2005, 04:32:40 PM
who say he should ah neva take off whitley
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Maradona7 on September 03, 2005, 04:35:52 PM
Stern is still fu*&king shitttt!!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Jumbie on September 03, 2005, 04:36:07 PM
Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????

Hull U tail.. Stern was offside 4 times and countless times in games before.. buh at least he proved the coach correct! dats why bennie getting paid!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: nobody_s angel on September 03, 2005, 04:40:13 PM
Stern boy today yuh make me eat all meh words. Thanks. :beermug:

Hope u keep it up at least yuh break the streak
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Feliziano on September 03, 2005, 04:40:37 PM
i always had him starting in my formation..he woulda come good evenutally..but he still ent even halfway there yet..especially we knowing what he capable of.
Thanks again Latas  :notworthy:
Title: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: sub1 on September 03, 2005, 04:42:50 PM
Regardless of past perfomances when he alone was carrying the flag. Those two goals today were flukes. Marvin could have scored those. So what say you now naysayers?
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: che on September 03, 2005, 04:45:58 PM
Stern wake up. We need him to score at CR and Pan.
Then I will be happy.
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: prodigy23 on September 03, 2005, 04:52:11 PM
i see it have no pleasing guys like u.  d man aint score u complaining, d man score  twice and u still complaining. i feel  u from guatimala.
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: Feliziano on September 03, 2005, 04:54:13 PM
come on man..leave de 'drop' talk till tomororw nah..now is a time to be thankful and celebrate..lets just enjoy the moment  :cheers:
we go dissect the performnace tomorow after lunch.
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: sub1 on September 03, 2005, 04:54:31 PM
Are you related to DOC?
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: sub1 on September 03, 2005, 04:55:29 PM
come on man..leave de 'drop' talk till tomororw nah..now is a time to be thankful and celebrate..lets just enjoy the moment  :cheers:
we go dissect the performnace tomorow after lunch.


You didnt get it, did you?
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: royal on September 03, 2005, 04:57:45 PM
As we praise John and rightly so,Latapy made de difference and redeem him (Stern) today.
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: biga84 on September 03, 2005, 04:59:59 PM
Leave that boys    Unite fellas     we are all warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: DROP STERN JOHN??????
Post by: sportscolonel on September 03, 2005, 05:05:34 PM
thank you very much stern.......once again he did it...i hope everybody shut up now....if tnt qualify it'll be the 2 biggest goals in tnt history...cuz with a draw or loss today we was out. keep calling for him to get dropped.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: maxg on September 03, 2005, 05:06:03 PM
Stern hasn't redeemed himself...Good for him & T&T to score...but it have other fellas who busting dey ass for 1 of dem many chances he getting...if yuh leave him out dey iit must happen sooner or later....yuh think he fully back ? would he not throw way any more ? for our sake and his, I hope not...
Mind you, when I see the game, I will then give my recommendations to BeenE... :D
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: Maradona7 on September 03, 2005, 05:06:20 PM
DROP STERN!!!!!!!!            DROP STERN!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN??????
Post by: Maradona7 on September 03, 2005, 05:07:40 PM
DROP STERN lucky to score today. My grandmother has one leg and blind and could have scored those!!
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN??????
Post by: sub1 on September 03, 2005, 05:08:12 PM
Colonel i thought it was only Doc who had bad comprehensive skills. Nobody has picked up on the sarcasm, including you. I now demote you to private ;D
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: sportscolonel on September 03, 2005, 05:08:39 PM
i really dont get ppl sumtime
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: Trini on September 03, 2005, 05:08:49 PM
Lets revel in the moment, its been a long while since we've had something big to cheer.
I agree with Sub, to an extent.
Stern is just a scorer, nothing else,so when he doesnt score, he is a waste. He was on a serious drought. Thes ethings happen, it was just it was in the middle of our campaign.
But the thing is with him, we is a streak player.
His confidence is his main weapon.
He must be on top the world.
At the end of the day, he is a Trini jus like all of us, the only difference is that he is a a supporter who actually plays for the team.
Just to be ina  spot to put the ball in a net takes a skill that precious few in world have.
Stern has that.
Up to 2 games ago, I was one of his biggest defenders, just like how I defended BSC. Then I started to question his present contribution and wonder if I was blinded by his phenomenal scoring past.
Truth be told, a healthy Stern John must always have a place in a TT team, whether he start or used as a sub. I really dont mind benching him, but he has delivered for us in the past when we no one else could.
I think he pretty much guaranteed his starting spot for the remainder of the campaign.
But I see Sub's point.
Latas influence today showed us something about stern john and service.

We had better keep focus for Wed, this is now a very very big game for us.

In the meantime, LETS REVEL IN TT's VICTORY EVERYONE!
No bitterness.
Wow, what deja vu from 89.
I hope stern starting another streak!

Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: sub1 on September 03, 2005, 05:09:07 PM
DROP STERN!!!!!!!!            DROP STERN!!!!!!!!!

No World cup!!! no World cup!!!! :rotfl:
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: sub1 on September 03, 2005, 05:11:07 PM
Lets revel in the moment, its been a long while since we've had something big to cheer.
I agree with Sub, to an extent.
Stern is just a scorer, nothing else,so when he doesnt score, he is a waste. He was on a serious drought. Thes ethings happen, it was just it was in the middle of our campaign.
But the thing is with him, we is a streak player.
His confidence is his main weapon.
He must be on top the world.
At the end of the day, he is a Trini jus like all of us, the only difference is that he is a a supporter who actually plays for the team.
Just to be ina  spot to put the ball in a net takes a skill that precious few in world have.
Stern has that.
Up to 2 games ago, I was one of his biggest defenders, just like how I defended BSC. Then I started to question his present contribution and wonder if I was blinded by his phenomenal scoring past.
Truth be told, a healthy Stern John must always have a place in a TT team, whether he start or used as a sub. I really dont mind benching him, but he has delivered for us in the past when we no one else could.
I think he pretty much guaranteed his starting spot for the remainder of the campaign.
But I see Sub's point.
Latas influence today showed us something about stern john and service.

We had better keep focus for Wed, this is now a very very big game for us.

In the meantime, LETS REVEL IN TT's VICTORY EVERYONE!
No bitterness.
Wow, what deja vu from 89.
I hope stern starting another streak!



Trini if you didn't realise that i was being sarcastic then let me say it big and bold. This is for all those who have been murdering him. Froth always rises to the top.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini on September 03, 2005, 05:18:32 PM
YEA IT DOES, BUT BEENIS WAS A VERY BRAVE MAN TO STICK WITH HIM.
LETS HOPE FOR ALL OF OUR SAKE, STERN CAN BUILD ON IT.
WE NEED 2 WINS AGAIN STILL
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: Lower St. John on September 03, 2005, 05:44:38 PM
Regardless of past perfomances when he alone was carrying the flag. Those two goals today were flukes. Marvin could have scored those. So what say you now naysayers?

That is a hard statement to make but understandable with all of the disappointment from time past.

Let us just be thankful for Stern taking his chances.
Title: Re: DROP STERN JOHN NOW!!!!
Post by: Feliziano on September 03, 2005, 06:17:59 PM
come on man..leave de 'drop' talk till tomororw nah..now is a time to be thankful and celebrate..lets just enjoy the moment  :cheers:
we go dissect the performnace tomorow after lunch.


You didnt get it, did you?

who's Doc?..and no i didn't get what u was talking bout either..please clarify
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: salt-or-fresh on September 03, 2005, 06:31:13 PM
I cyah belive men praisin' stern john, praise de whole 4kin team, steups
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: saga pinto on September 03, 2005, 06:33:07 PM
Whats do all u haters have to say about him now?????????????????????????????????
I'll tell yuh what all ah we have to say about that,thank god for latas,he make him look good!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: salt-or-fresh on September 03, 2005, 06:40:13 PM
the difference on the team is one player and is not Stern John. Me eh know if you see the other qualifiers Mr John played in. Like yuh was waiting all dis time fuh he tuh score, tuh post yuh comments, dais basic probability, if yuh is a forward yuh hah tuh score sooner or later. We needed it since Ash Wednesday. Mr. John is your hero, not mine
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Warrior till death on September 03, 2005, 07:19:58 PM
If it wasnt for Stern John 2 goals ...we would have loss so wtf wrong wit u Stern John haters?!
yall just talking shi tt ...and it wasnt no shit goals either
yall just have nutting good to say so u complain bout something
a goal is a goal
he is the one who put two in the back of d net

NUFF SAID
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: maxg on September 03, 2005, 07:34:03 PM
Wait like I missing something....it have people here who Hate Stern John ? you just post 2 post here, and ah sure yuh was reading for awhile...plus it have others who calling people SJ haters...I really not sure who here hate Stern at all...ah more think, allyuh looking for somebody to go to war with...best allyuh battle with each other...
if yuh wha discuss, what is best for T&T based on present performance, I am sure yuh could get plenty discussion...if yuh wha fight with man, because of personal preferences, look for each other...knock allyuh self out...
Well done T&T, we still have tougher games ahead...good luck
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Lower St. John on September 03, 2005, 07:50:39 PM
Well done T&T, we still have tougher games ahead...good luck

Nuff Said.  Let us enjoy this victory and focus on the next task at hand, Costa Rica on de road.  There were some serious pluses to take away from this performance.  Looking at the game we deserved this victory and Stern regardless of what was done in the recent past is deserving of some worthy mention.

Me aint know anybody family on this site but only a real hater (or someone who did not see the game) would say he one legged half blind family could score those two goals.  Clinical finishig.  Overall C+/B- game for Stern but goals win matches, and his won it for us.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Savannah boy on September 03, 2005, 08:10:28 PM
Some of allyuh new bandwagon posters real kicksy yes...allyuh now come on dis forum even though is years we here...trying to start shit instead of enjoying de victory. Last ah check we live in ah democracy. If man playing shit, dey go get call out. If man playing well, dey go get dey props. Well done Stern.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Tallman on September 03, 2005, 08:30:10 PM
Stern has now moved to 11th on de all time list of international goal scorers. He now has 61 goals in 85 games, a strike rate of 72%.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: kounty on September 03, 2005, 08:44:59 PM
what I reading here is incredible!!!!  why men fighting stern so? anyway is not to let a$$holes like dem get me mad on such a great day nah.
BIG UP  TO THE MAXIMUM STERN JOHN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 03, 2005, 08:49:39 PM
Well dun stern   i always with d man   jus have faith

and doh study dese assholes hoo ripping away d man      wen we in germany and dey drunk an singing stern name after a hat trick against brazil  ;D     is big stone and cuff in dey effin hard pan

allyuh hoo disgracing d man hull ya ass and take a stewpsss
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: jusme on September 03, 2005, 09:09:53 PM
Stern has now moved to 11th on de all time list of international goal scorers. He now has 61 goals in 85 games, a strike rate of 72%.

Tallman,  you have that list available?  would be nice to see what kinda names stern keeping company with in the top 15 or 20 there.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: StoreBayLimer on September 03, 2005, 09:51:31 PM

 There is no hatred of Stern John;  Fellazs were critiquing Stern because of his performance, and everybody wants the old-Stern to come back. 

Stern's two goals came when the defender marking him was off the field. The defender was getting a cut bandaged.  Nice goals though.  Anyway I agree that we should leave analysis of the match till another day.  But I must add what a performance by Latapy and Yorke!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Tongue on September 03, 2005, 09:52:28 PM
prodigy23...look gih we ah f&*iin chance wit dah chupid talk nah! all de time Stern wasnt producing and man call for him tuh get sub yuh was no f%$*in where tuh defend him....
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: troy piloy on September 03, 2005, 11:46:22 PM
I just want to say WELL DONE  STERN.
You helped us win a must win game. I hope this does alot for confidence it spurs you on to do alot better and in the future.

To all the men who have the negative things still to say about you :flamethrower: for all of allya

Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: AB.Trini on September 04, 2005, 12:16:11 AM
BELIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT. Stern good show of character. You weathered te torms of controversy and the collective frustrations but as atrue Warrior, you prevailed and delivered when it mattered.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: prodigy23 on September 04, 2005, 12:50:01 AM
Tongue, what kinda madness u talking?? i mean i dont post on this site everyday, like u, but de few times i posted something it was about stern john. so do sum research before u call my name, a$$hole.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: pass(10trini) on September 04, 2005, 01:35:09 AM
salt and  fresh is ah mad felah ppl doh tek he on . :rotfl:
Title: MY NAME IS ...STERN " F#%KIN" JOHN.....NOT SEAN JOHN
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 04, 2005, 06:19:31 AM
IN A BIG RACE MOTHERFU%KERS.....YOU PUT YOUR MONEY ON THE BIG FU%KIN HORSE...FULL STOP......THANK GOD DON LEO HAS SEEN IT ALL BEFORE.....TNT TNT TNT
Title: My apologies to Stern
Post by: real madness on September 04, 2005, 06:23:33 AM
I like many other forumites called for Stern to be benched.  We had endless reasons for that call.  However, Stern proved that as a "big player" ( ;D..in more ways than 1)...he stepped up when we were in  desperate need.  Congrats are also in order to Leo for sticking with Stern.....it just goes to show that soemtimes we as fans don't know ah damn ting....Anyway...congrats Stern and the entire Soca Warriors team....YOU DID US PROUD.

P.S. My apologies again to Stern...u scored 2 crucial goals yesterday....I see some people already bawling u were offside 9 times...very true...but u SCORED 2 CRUCIAL GOALS.....I will take 9 offsides and 2 goals any day.
Title: Re: MY NAME IS ...STERN " F#%KIN" JOHN.....NOT SEAN JOHN
Post by: Ngozi on September 04, 2005, 07:03:41 AM
Ey youth check yourself in a hurry ....man here backing this team before you born.......it eh have no I in team....when yuh get older you'll learn dat....
Title: Re: MY NAME IS ...STERN " F#%KIN" JOHN.....NOT SEAN JOHN
Post by: Maradona7 on September 04, 2005, 07:06:28 AM
STERN IS SHITTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! STERN IS SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MY NAME IS ...STERN " F#%KIN" JOHN.....NOT SEAN JOHN
Post by: arrow on September 04, 2005, 07:12:13 AM
Ey youth check yourself in a hurry ....man here backing this team before you born.......it eh have no I in team....when yuh get older you'll learn dat....

that sounding like BIG magician not small.  Big does use small profile to post sometimes
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Tallman on September 04, 2005, 07:23:35 AM
Stern has now moved to 11th on de all time list of international goal scorers. He now has 61 goals in 85 games, a strike rate of 72%.

Tallman,  you have that list available?  would be nice to see what kinda names stern keeping company with in the top 15 or 20 there.

Players with 30 or more international goals (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/century.html#goals)
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Maradona7 on September 04, 2005, 07:27:52 AM
DROP STERN!!!!!!!!!!!!! offside a million times..out of the last few games he had 12000 chances scored 2..thank GOD it was against GU....he lucky.........DROP HIM!!!!
Title: Re: MY NAME IS ...STERN " F#%KIN" JOHN.....NOT SEAN JOHN
Post by: Ngozi on September 04, 2005, 07:36:25 AM
fair enough..... but youthful enthusiasm or excessive liquor father or son....they still have to check themselves they
Title: Re: MY NAME IS ...STERN " F#%KIN" JOHN.....NOT SEAN JOHN
Post by: Big Magician on September 04, 2005, 08:05:31 AM
sorry fellas  and sorry small magician....it is i the big magician who made the post......maradona 7......hear wha going on........FU#K OFF
Title: Re: My apologies to Stern
Post by: Tongue on September 04, 2005, 08:56:15 AM
I doh tink apologies are needed for Stern...he wasnt scoring and his performances were not helping us. majority of posters and football people kept sayin dis....however tonite he found his touch and was able to score not one but 2 goals for US....Stern wuk is to score goals and the critasizin is jus someting he have tuh deal wit.....
Title: john
Post by: Warrior till death on September 04, 2005, 09:17:13 AM
Guatemalan reporters saying that the goal from Stern John came due to the fact the his marker was off the field being treated for a cut on his face  ???
Title: Re: john
Post by: Warrior till death on September 04, 2005, 09:24:45 AM
Quote : "Both goals came as defender Gustavo Cabrera, John's marker, was being treated off the field for a cut on the cheek."
i didnt notice anyman walking off d field from injury at dat time ??? ???
Title: devil's advocate
Post by: Rotato Poti on September 04, 2005, 09:24:45 AM
Do we fall into the same syndrome of sugar coating everything and willing to overlook all shortcomings so blatantly evident in Calypso Cricket by transposing that attitude to Trinidad & Tobago Football?

Stern John has been through the cliche dry-patch that Brian Lara saw in the late 90s. As the faithful, we preached "Form is temporary, class is permanent". Lara was always the best and it was only a matter of time and tweeking his technique in a game that offers the relief of getting "another chance". Trinidad & Tobago does not have that other chance - we have 90 minutes per game and only a few more games remaining before the two best footballers of our generation hang up their international boots for good.
What we must ask is whether or not Stern's 2 goals in 2 minutes heralds a return to form? ..... or was it temporary relief - at a juncture that warranted more than just luck and magic - but more of divine intervention.

What's .. Who's to say that Stern John has returned to form? .... what if he goes into another crucial matchup on Wednesday and does not revert to "Stern Turn" ..... but the "Stern Stumble"? There isn't going to be a strong enough Trini presence in Costa Rica to drown out the Ticos and plead for a sub.

At the most throughout the campaign, Stern John has looked nothing but a shadow of his former self .... and do we risk wasting a sub on him on Wednesday by starting him and hoping that his renewed confidence is translated in goals galore? ... or do we start Scott Sealy ... or call upon the services of the ever willing, ever goal scoring - Cornell Glen?

I did not see the match, but I have had to rely on post match reports - so I might be wrong in my evaluation of Stern's performance ... but anything less would be a dis-service to Trinidad & Tobago's drive to accomplish one of the nation's ultimate goals.

Hopefully my pessimism is an over-reaction, and he bangs in two more early on in Costa Rica - my passports been ready since 1990, and I really don't want Nov 19th to come on Oct 12th in Mexico.

Go Warriors!!
Title: Re: john
Post by: truetrini on September 04, 2005, 09:25:56 AM
so what?

Is licks in dey arse. me eh care if he was orf getting he arse waxed by triniman.

Is gollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!
Title: Re: john
Post by: Warrior till death on September 04, 2005, 09:29:03 AM
true
Title: Re: john
Post by: Big Magician on September 04, 2005, 09:33:42 AM
THAT IS TRUE...DE MAN CAME OFF FOR TREATMENT.....SO WHA DEM GUATS EXPECT....FOR WE COACH TO TELL A DE GUATS TO REORGANISE AND MARK STERN...
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: AB.Trini on September 04, 2005, 11:50:20 AM
With alll due respects:

This is a player who has done yeoman duty for TNT; had the good times and had recently suffered the indignities of failures to the point he was subbed off aganist the USA. This is aplayer who has battled the critics and endured the  wrath of a  the fan's frustration; this is a player who has been a scapegoat for our team's failures, NOW he has redeemed himself and man still questioning? ah shucks!!!

Let's give the man some slack today!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: dreamer on September 04, 2005, 12:36:01 PM
Well done Stern.  Plenty folks don't understand that you play your heart out for T&T, never turn down an international game even if yuh manager in the UK want to put you in de dog house. These little ungrateful johhny-come-lately shitheads don't understand that your name was "Bound to score" and could easily be changed to "Bound to eventually score". Thanks for scoring those goals in the dying minutes with all that pressure,  when nerves were fraying all around you. Thank you Dwight for that do or die run that you made and instinctively gave it to Stern instead of trying something yourself. Magic. Thank you Beenie for having the wisdom and judgement and faith.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Rodney on September 04, 2005, 01:15:37 PM
I for one have great respect for the sacrifices Stern has made for T&T.  Though they are greater players, you cannot say the same for Latas and Yorke. I have sympathy with the fella losing it with the fans as he has been getting stick pretty much non-stop fuh the whole campaign....he was bound tuh break sooner or later, he only human. I must also say he should start the next game as its madness to drop a scoring striker.

What I am unhappy about is blind praise of the guy.  I have seen most of Stern's performances this campaign (eventually) and I'm sorry but the guy was getting pick purely based on past reputation and not current form.  We can say Stern has made a significant contribution to this campaign but to say it has been a mainly positive contribution....well sorry I will only admit that if we come fourth or higher after 10 games. With the amount of high quality chances that man has wasted this campaign we would have been in a strong 3rd place and (dare I say it) Gold cup finalists by now if he had scored 30% of them!!   
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini on September 04, 2005, 01:18:11 PM
True Rodney, but he is perhaps the best we have right now, well at least tried and tested.
We need a striker to ketch fire if we are to get to Germany.
I see Stern more likley to do that than Jones, Sealy, Scotland.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: AB.Trini on September 04, 2005, 01:24:40 PM
Stern John willing to sacrifice place.  :o
By: Shaun Fuentes

Check the archives for theis postings; de man is aware of his inept play but he  has  also been given an opportunity to redeem himself; He did so now could we let him build on this performance?
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Filho on September 04, 2005, 01:34:52 PM
Stern is the best goalscorer TnT ever produced (at least in modern times...I too young to go back before the late 80s). The man was out of form and it is normal that some fans wanted him to ride the bench since there were some young warriors out there who seemed to be in better form, and seemed hungrier. Why all the Stern fans acting like they want to throw Stern goals in everbody face? It real sad that you all believe that everyone not elated too. Maybe there are some serious Stern haters out there. But so what? let them be miserable. As far as I can see, just about everyone want the old Stern back. Those that cuss him and get personal done get they cuss from Stern 'self yesterday ;D

Anyhow, the truth be told, stern 2 goals are exactly that....2 goals. He had a poor game and missed some golden opportunities. That is not hate, that is just how some see it. I am not surprised that some still want him on the bench, cause they believe that if he really was the old Stren he would have 4 goals yesterday. I don't know if I agree with that, but I doh see it as hate, or ungratefulness, just a different opinion. Stern has not proven that he is back to form, and I am sure he feels thee same way. It makes  no sense to get carried away after 1 game, when we have so much still to do. BUT he has earned the chance to try and continue his exploits against Costa Rica. Just as you argue people should not get carried away after numerous poor performances, it is good to follow your own advice, and not get too carried away after 1 effective performance. For now, let us jus be happy and hope he gives Costa Rica hell.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: kounty on September 04, 2005, 01:40:58 PM

We can say Stern has made a significant contribution to this campaign but to say it has been a mainly positive contribution....well sorry I will only admit that if we come fourth or higher after 10 games.


simple truth, if it wasn't for stern double, yesterday  woulda be Novermebr 19th pt 2...ah lie? so you wouldn't say that was positive?

With the amount of high quality chances that man has wasted this campaign we would have been in a strong 3rd place and (dare I say it) Gold cup finalists by now if he had scored 30% of them!!

alright, somebody else have to help me here and let we go back thru all the matches one by one.
USA match...me ent think stern had any real chance he throw way there
Mexico Match -  neither.
Panama match - it ent really matter cuz we win anyway ie you could only get 3 pts from a win right?.

anyway, that topic aside...we spend months and months talking about trinidad doh have a midfield...we bring in and add it up piece by piece.
How the hell you expect the man to score if he not gettin no ball?  Since when trinidad get so bold to expect they striker to score every chance given to him?  As far as I see from wathcin football, most teams does have 9 -12 shots at goal and score 2...dat doh mean men does harp on the 7-10 that they throw way...anyway I now seein myself biased on the for stern side so ah go stop...but naswer mih this one b4 I go.
we make it to the world cup, trinidad score 1 goal in teh whole tournament....who most likely score that goal?
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: dreamer on September 04, 2005, 01:45:10 PM
The various points are getting more responsible now. What was bad, was the shameful, unpatriotic abusive, contemptuous, ungrateful remarks. You can call him out of form or suggest he be benched for a while but making comments that have the "shittong-like" vulgarity is hate and displaced hate. It's wrong (for those who are doing it). The tone is wrong. Criticism is good and welcome. Don't get me wrong.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Rodney on September 04, 2005, 01:45:51 PM
Stern is the best goalscorer TnT ever produced (at least in modern times...I too young to go back before the late 80s).

Sorry Fella, Steve David was better...maybe a bit before your time...but T&T didn't play half as much then as they do now or his record would have been fantastic!.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Filho on September 04, 2005, 01:51:39 PM
Heheh...I like it, but I cah go back that far.
Plus, I  said he is the best goalscorer...which is all about stats. And as far as I know, you canot touch Stern stats.
The best forward (not just goalscorer) in modern times was Leonson Lewis. Could finish like Stern, but had everything else too. Technique, speed, dribbling...Real underrated Trini genius
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Rodney on September 04, 2005, 02:08:43 PM

We can say Stern has made a significant contribution to this campaign but to say it has been a mainly positive contribution....well sorry I will only admit that if we come fourth or higher after 10 games.


simple truth, if it wasn't for stern double, yesterday  woulda be Novermebr 19th pt 2...ah lie? so you wouldn't say that was positive?

With the amount of high quality chances that man has wasted this campaign we would have been in a strong 3rd place and (dare I say it) Gold cup finalists by now if he had scored 30% of them!!

alright, somebody else have to help me here and let we go back thru all the matches one by one.
USA match...me ent think stern had any real chance he throw way there
Mexico Match -  neither.
Panama match - it ent really matter cuz we win anyway ie you could only get 3 pts from a win right?.

anyway, that topic aside...we spend months and months talking about trinidad doh have a midfield...we bring in and add it up piece by piece.
How the hell you expect the man to score if he not gettin no ball?  Since when trinidad get so bold to expect they striker to score every chance given to him?  As far as I see from wathcin football, most teams does have 9 -12 shots at goal and score 2...dat doh mean men does harp on the 7-10 that they throw way...anyway I now seein myself biased on the for stern side so ah go stop...but naswer mih this one b4 I go.
we make it to the world cup, trinidad score 1 goal in teh whole tournament....who most likely score that goal?

Just to retort  :devil: ...so yuh call 2 goals in one game a mainly positive contribution over the 7 games we have played so far in the hex. It was a positive contribution in one game...I did say after all 10games.

Believe what you will about his opportunities during the campaign...that truely is a matter of opinion but are you saying Stern has deserved his pick in EVERY game so far this campaign (including the GC). And that he has scored all the clearcut chances served up for him.  So you saying Stern in form then? Notice I did'nt say First or Second place for T&T so I think I did take into account the opponents we were not supposed to mash up!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: AB.Trini on September 04, 2005, 02:11:57 PM
Rodney,
Do you know something about Stern's abliity that Beenhakker does not?

Doh take it the wrong way; maybe yuh see soemthing or you know soemthing from John's play in the U.K that may shed soem light oh his form of late.

Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Rodney on September 04, 2005, 02:25:25 PM
Rodney,
Do you know something about Stern's abliity that Beenhakker does not?

Do you?...infact does anyone? I haven't said drop him. I like how on this forum when you crticise a player man does ask if you know better than the coach.  It is just an opinion and mine is that Stern has not justified his inclusion in every game and we have had the oppertunity to see other options but did not take it (i.e the gold cup).So I guess you also think he has deserved his starting place in every game he has played.  We will never know if other players could have done better cause all have had either cameo's or the odd start.

Anyway this is like flogging a dead horse as we know he will start on Wednesday and I aint got ah problem with that at the moment cause he deserves it.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: kounty on September 04, 2005, 02:37:26 PM
"goals by Stern John and Dennis Lawrence in the 34th and 70th minutes, respectively, led the host Trinidad & Tobago (1-2-1, 4 Points) to a 2:0 win over Panama (0-2-2, 2 Points) at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain." - concacaf.com


3 of trinidad's 7 goals so far in the campaign...not bad stern!!


Just to retort  :devil: ...so yuh call 2 goals in one game a mainly positive contribution over the 7 games we have played so far in the hex. It was a positive contribution in one game...I did say after all 10games.
opponents we were not supposed to mash up!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Savannah boy on September 04, 2005, 03:08:22 PM
Ah still find it alarming dat he go tell de crowd to 4q off...not once but twice. He jes making heself ah future target fuh more picong when he throwing away or offsides. He should apologize if is cuss he cuss de fans. Man come and pack stadium...no complaints about lack of crowd...and yuh go cuss dem. When you a star, yuh never far from de spotlight. Yuh does get criticize fuh poor form and then praise when yuh score. Dis comes with the territory especially in a high profile sport like football. When yuh choose dat career, yuh have opened up yuhself to public scrutiny. Yuh jes have to accept things the way they are and stay above dem kinda classless behaviour. Ultimately, we all wish him the best.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Rodney on September 04, 2005, 03:39:32 PM
Rodney,
Do you know something about Stern's abliity that Beenhakker does not?

Doh take it the wrong way; maybe yuh see soemthing or you know soemthing from John's play in the U.K that may shed soem light oh his form of late.



Actually it is that exact thing that have me being so negative on Stern.  To me Stern makes more of an effort (no that is unfair), it is more that he seems to do more for Coventry unlike when playing for T&T where he generally seems play as a goalscorer and nothing else, if you get my meaning. Unlike the fickle fans at Coventry I think his contributions (when he plays) are very positive for them.  Before people start slating me for suggesting Stern not that committed to T&T. I do except it could be down to tactics and how his coach wants him to contribute during games.  I just wonder what would have happened if like at Coventry, Stern had tasted the bench once or twice earlier in the campaign.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Savannah boy on September 04, 2005, 03:52:31 PM
I agree wit biga84...let we unite fellas. We retain our right to praise and criticize but let we not take this personal. Instead of celebrating...all we hearing is Stern dis and Stern dat...so Stern above de national team's achievement? What is really is more important eh...Stern starting, Stern should bench, Stern scoring, Stern eating too much sponge cake, de crowd booing Stern or bemoaning his misses, Stern cussing we, Stern is only a post up fella, Stern always offside, Stern cyah create, Stern throwing away sitters, Stern work rate slow...oh gosh man...de team getting closer to Germany...the dream is alive and well. Focus peeps, de next two games will say a lot about us because the final game won't be easy. Ah hope we have enough in de tank fuh de next game after dis Guatemala game because we need some of that same intensity. Go T&T!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Lower St. John on September 04, 2005, 04:17:06 PM
...oh gosh man...de team getting closer to Germany...the dream is alive and well. Focus peeps, de next two games will say a lot about us because the final game won't be easy.

Savannah boy yuh thief meh post.  Time for we to refocus on this board.  De journey still alive but hard like concrete.

By the time we meet Panama they may have nothing to play for but being a spoiler and I beieve they are better than their results.  The first 10 minutes of yesterday's Costa Rica - Panama game is the most hard luck yuh could ask to see.

As meh boy Tambu say in a different life -  De Journey Now Start.

Man still have de right to criticize or praise but remember "Together we apsire, Together we achieve."
Title: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Tallman on September 13, 2005, 07:17:50 AM
Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Derby Evening Telegraph


Striker Stern John will become a Derby County player in time for Sunday's home Championship clash with Southampton. John will arrive on a three-month loan from Coventry City later this week to take full advantage of the 93-day rule.
The later the Trinidad and Tobago international signs, the later he can stay. If the 28-year-old is registered as a Rams player at noon on Saturday, he can remain at Derby until December 17.
He would then go back to Coventry before joining the Rams permanently once the transfer window reopens in January. There is little point in registering John earlier because he is unable to play against his current club, Coventry, when they visit Pride Park tomorrow night.
Derby will pay a fee for the player, possibly around £150,000. He cost Coventry £200,000 from Birmingham City a year ago and has another two years to run on his contract. John spoke to Rams manager Phil Brown at Moor Farm yesterday.
"Stern looks up for a new challenge," said Brown. "He is a big, powerful lad and we're looking forward to having him in place for the weekend." Director of football Murdo Mackay added: "We tried very hard to get players in last week and we are very close to bringing in new faces again and the board support that."
The move for John has been ongoing for about a week but had to be put on hold while he was away on international duty. John, who has also played for Nottingham Forest, was in World Cup action for Trinidad and Tobago last week.
He scored twice in a 3-2 qualifying win over Guatemala and started the 2-0 defeat by Costa Rica. Derby are keen to make sure business is done properly after the Adrian Heath saga in the summer. Heath quit as number two at Coventry to become Brown's assistant at Derby but returned to Highfield Road a week later after the two clubs failed to reach an agreement over compensation. Heath was assistant to Peter Reid when Coventry signed John.
"I don't think Stern has done as well for us as his ability suggests he should," said Heath.
"We have seen glimpses of what he can do but a change might do him good. "I'm disappointed it has not worked out for him because I thought he would be a terrific asset to the club.
"He will go on loan to Derby with a view to a permanent deal. If it goes through, we will wish him well because you do not like to see a player of his ability struggle."
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: andre samuel on September 13, 2005, 07:25:28 AM
go brave stern...ah feel coventry was yuh blight!!

go to derby and rip up de championship.

ah still eh seeing no quote from stern stating his feelings about the move!
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: spideybuff on September 13, 2005, 07:27:58 AM
That was quick! Well we hadda hope for the best now. Derby have a striker shortage so much so that their coach had to suit up, which implies that Stern should get a run..hopefully play himself back into some kind of form. Anybody of our english based forumites can give us some insight on the Derby coach and what type of game he likes to play? We just need them to realise that although Stern big and strong he is not a post up player...he needs to back in the habit of getting balls played into him while he facing the goal !
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Big Magician on September 13, 2005, 07:37:13 AM
good luck stern.....best wishes...i cant believe i have to check derby results now.....lol...god bless
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Ngozi on September 13, 2005, 07:44:22 AM
That article says alot about stern at this point in time.......its purely mental...he has  a confidence crisis and its not only seen by the national team obviously but by his club coach....and he's the only one who can bring thaqt agression back...if its physical a coach can train him if its mental he is his only coach........... :(
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Mr Mc on September 13, 2005, 07:54:47 AM
sometiems with a change like this it does wake men up, make them feel renewed and feel like the have to show and prove the team that moved them that it was a mistake.
Lets hope he has that kind of pride in himself.  I think he was out of favor with Coventry to this should be a good situation for him, just hope the new team is willing to let him go, as he is their main man now.
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: oconnorg on September 13, 2005, 08:07:17 AM
Mean While.. Coventry Fans i am sure are extatic!!
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Cowen on September 13, 2005, 09:11:45 AM
Well this is Stern chance to re-vitalise his career. New club new opportunity. Better grab this one and score some goals.
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: arrow on September 13, 2005, 09:39:16 AM
Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Preacher on September 13, 2005, 10:14:38 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: fordy on September 13, 2005, 10:18:40 AM
glad to see stern get another chance to revitalise his successful career. he deserves the chance and i believe this move can reap benefits for the trinidad and tobago team. ah happy stern john can only be an asset for our team!!!
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Jumbie on September 13, 2005, 10:20:27 AM
Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ah have rice all over meh friggin monitor now..
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: Lower St. John on September 13, 2005, 10:56:40 AM
Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself

Arrow that hard (funny like hell but hard) but the really funny thing about your post is that real men on this site have that thought deep down inside. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on September 13, 2005, 11:30:53 AM
Maybe the TTFF should loan him out to Panama for a three months until he catches himself
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ah have rice all over meh friggin monitor now..

Jumbie what wrong wit you man...I nearly short circuit my f-in computer here man....watch what you saying nah man.  Is water all over meh keyboard and monitor.
Title: Re: Stern John joins Derby on a 3-month loan.
Post by: truetrini on September 13, 2005, 11:47:50 AM
arrow, yuh is ah damn arse!

haahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha


send Camps too.
Title: Stern John: Under pressure
Post by: Tallman on September 17, 2005, 07:08:02 AM
Stern John: Under pressure
By Steve Nicholson (Derby Evening Telegraph)


Stern John accepts he is under pressure to deliver the goals for Derby County following the departure of Grzegorz Rasiak.

John is expected to lead the attack against Southampton tomorrow after completing a three-month loan move from Coventry City.

But as he looks forward to making his debut, he knows there will be comparisons with last season's 17-goal striker, Rasiak.

"People will see me as a replacement and obviously there will be some pressure on me but I'll just get my head down, work hard and try to do what I do best - score goals," he said.

"I'm not Grzegorz Rasiak, I can only be myself, and hopefully by the end of my loan spell the Derby fans will be smiling and happy with my performances."

The Trinidad and Tobago international has hit 53 goals in 198 games with Nottingham Forest, Birmingham City and Coventry.

Rams boss Phil Brown admits John has big boots to fill now Rasiak has gone to Tottenham Hotspur but is confident his new signing can provide goals.

"Grzegorz was a one goal in every two games striker but they are difficult to find and cost big money," said Brown.

"Stern is a one-in-three man and is in our market. He is strong, has a good touch, can play with his back to goal, hold the ball up and turn defenders. He'll have the number nine shirt recently worn by Rasiak.

"I'll be demanding goals from Stern and I see no reason why he can't deliver given the service we can provide from the likes of Tommy Smith and Morten Bisgaard, as well as Inigo Idiakez's set-pieces."

John has struggled to hold down a regular place at Coventry this season and is looking for a fresh start with Derby.

The two clubs had agreed to make the move permanent when the transfer window reopens in January, with the Rams paying a fee of around £150,000, but they do not now have to buy the player.

John is hoping to impress enough to stay permanently.

"It was frustrating and difficult for me at Coventry," he said. "With no disrespect to the other strikers there, I know I can score goals in this division, I've done it before.

"I think Derby's style of play will suit me better. They like to pass the ball and get it into feet.

"Now I just want to start playing and scoring goals."

John has scored on his debut at all his previous clubs and says he feels at home at Derby having played with Michael Johnson and Jeff Kenna at Birmingham City.

The 28-year-old hit seven goals in 15 League games to help Birmingham win promotion through the play-offs in 2001-02.

Like John, Peter Whittingham is relishing a new challenge.

The 21-year-old left-sided player - he can play midfield or left-back - is also here for three months and is a little surprised he has been frozen out at Aston Villa.

He started Villa's first three Premiership games of the season before being dropped.

"I know there are good quality players in front of me at Villa and it was time to get out and hopefully play some first-team football," said Whittingham.

"I'd like to think I still have a future at Villa but you never know what will happen. I'm here to help Derby and that's what I am fully focused on."

The England Under-21 international has played 52 Premier League games for Villa and had a loan spell at Burnley last season.

(http://www.therams.co.uk/uploads/pictures/1D29/stern_john13092005.jpg)
Stern can still be a Sky Blues hit
By Andy Turner (Coventry Evening Telegraph)

 
Micky Adams insists the door is still open for Stern John to make a return to the Ricoh Arena.

The Trinidad and Tobago international completed a three month loan deal to Derby County today, with a view to a permanent move, but the Sky Blues boss has not ruled out the club's highest paid player pulling on a City shirt again.

"I have never had a problem with Stern," said Adams who insists the move is more to do with finances than anything else.

"In fact, I think people were saying that was the best they had seen him play at the end of last season. But going away on international duty and losing his place, and let's not kid ourselves, he is one of the highest paid play-ers at the club.

"He initially joins on a loan deal until December 17 with a view to a permanent move but I don't know if that would involve a fee."

But what if John suddenly sparks into form or City are short of strikers come Christmas.

"The door is not closed on Stern John as far as I am concerned," he said.

And Adams is not convinced that just because he is significantly lightening the club's wage bill that the money will be made available to bring in fresh faces.

"The finances at the club are tight and will remain so regardless of Stern's move, so it will not dictate whether I can bring new players in," he said.
Title: Re: Stern can still be a Sky Blues hit
Post by: Sam on September 17, 2005, 07:11:30 AM
Derby is a better club at the moment, Stern John better do good and stay right their....
Title: Re: Stern John: Under pressure
Post by: Ngozi on September 17, 2005, 08:02:37 AM
stern is the highest paid player in the club and playing like that hmmm fella you etter hit form quick and stop making excuses..............
Title: Re: Stern John: Under pressure
Post by: Lower St. John on September 17, 2005, 09:50:57 AM
"Stern .....is strong, has a good touch, can play with his back to goal, hold the ball up and turn defenders.

It is interesting to note that the style of ball requested of Stern from his club is different from what the average Soca Warrior fan expect from him.

Title: Re: Stern John: Under pressure
Post by: pass(10trini) on September 18, 2005, 09:05:37 AM
ngozi is wah....????u own breddrin bruddah !

How about ah positive reinforcement . Ah find most ah de forumites does give we boy too much pressah....geh de man ah break for once nah.

U tink de man eh trying ? He is probably his worse critic so he doh need alyuh to reinforce what he already know. All de man who talking cyar do no flickin better cause u know what..........u would ah be deh too playing in a club somewey an on de Warriors squad .

How much better ah man go get when u keep carrying him down. He win nuff matches fuh we and  make we look descent when we team looking shitty . He has represented us exceptionally for de last 10 or so years. Is expected dat he will have an off period sometime in his career .

Like lara say when  he was on top in 1994, ''now I am playing well and scoring runs hope everyone will still be with me when the run drought comes around, cause dat is when I'll need your support the most ''(remember stern John ?).

Words are powerful and can bring u up and down . Baron say in he song, ''words is hope and words is life, words can make u feel like ah king, words can make u do anything ''. But like everything else we take de  positive and make ah negative

Man does never build u up but dey quick to pull down .

Stern is we own and no matter how bad he playing we should be giving him motivation and encouragement cause he feeling wus dan any ah alyuh in de stands or television. You tink when he put on ah tnt shirt he goiing to shit dong de place fuh we........????. NO !!!  Shit happens... ;D

We might feel he should be on the bench or off de team so be it.......but doh be calling de man ah setah unneccessary names nah. Everytime Stern name call certain men gehin he bad mind right through and seem to be saying de same ting everytime.....

 As touches say dong with de waggonist dem. Cause when he start putting bal in de net again real men will be singing his praises and want to be riding in de front seat too.....dais why de man real dus he shoulder against guatemala is all dem bad vibes he was trowin off he .

Down with de negative .

Down with de waggonists !
Title: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: Flex on October 06, 2005, 02:55:20 AM
Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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Imagine you were at your workplace. Perhaps you have a data entry position, only you are having a bad day. You misplaced some files, your boss is furious and you and everyone else involved in the project must stay back until it is finished...and it is Friday evening.
It is not a nice thought.
But imagine if those co-workers spent the evening cursing and screaming at you. And they brought along about 500 friends to your cubicle to constantly remind you of your errors.
Imagine what it must be like to be Stern John.
The 29-year-old striker endured a year to forget. Effectively forced out of the England Premier League club, Birmingham City, chastised by subsequent employers, Coventry City, and then jeered at in his new home, Derby County FC, after just four outings.
It gets worse. You are even booed by your own countrymen, by the same fans who saw you score a national record 61 goals in 87 outings-only ten players in the history of the game have scored more and Brazilian legend Ronaldo (56 goals in 89 games) is not one of them.
John tries to blank out the negativity but he admitted to feeling hurt by the crowd response in recent times-and particularly at home.
"I never went through that in my career before," said John. "I tell myself that some of the fans are doing it because they don't know better and some do it because they want to get a reaction from you to get you to play better. But it is something I won't forget for as long as I live.
"To tell you the truth, you are one of the players who will always go back and represent your country and give your all and you just can't believe the reaction you get from your own fans.
"I mean, here in England when we are going back to play for Trinidad, your teammates and your manager laugh at you and say you have no chance of going to the World Cup. So you come back and you are thinking that you really want to do well to show them and then the (T&T) supporters react like that.
"But I think some people just don't have a clue and the rest of them so accustomed to me scoring goals that they see me going through a lean patch and they just don't know how to take it."
John is not one for mincing words. On the field, his style has always been more stand and deliver than tricky subtlety.
But does he accept that part of the blame lies with his own performances?
John countered that every striker goes through a lean period and he does not miss chances on purpose. He insisted he will not lose faith in his ability to score goals and his record supports the claim that his malaise is down to bad form and not because he is a bad player.
If he wheels away to celebrate another strike against Panama or Mexico in Trinidad and Tobago's upcoming qualifiers, he would have pulled level with former star striker Steve David as the country's most prolific marksman of all time in World Cup qualifying competition.
David scored his 16 goals in just two World Cup qualifying campaigns when there were few pushovers like the Dominican Republic to tally up on-John scored five times against them.
It took John three campaigns to pull within touching distance of David. But, before anyone scoffs, it should be noted that Dwight Yorke, the country's most celebrated player, and his enigmatic teammate Russell Latapy managed six and eight goals, respectively, from five qualifying series.
Unsurprisingly, John was critical of the way Trinidad and Tobago recognise their heroes. He mentioned former standout player and coach, Everald "Gally" Cummings, who urgently needs money to fund a knee operation, while he believes that David and former mentor Alvin Corneal do not get the respect they deserve.
He invited David to meet him before Trinidad and Tobago tackle Mexico in their final qualifier at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on October 12.
"If I score and we get to the World Cup that would be perfect," he said. "I never saw (David) play but to score that amount of goals and I understand he was a legend in his time. I would love to meet him some time and talk.
"That is one thing about Trinidad, we tend to forget our heroes People like him and Gally and Corneal put us on the map."
The big question, though, is has John gone past his slump?
He gave as definite a 'yes' as is possible-football is a game, after all, and open to certain vagaries.
John suggested that his double in last month's 3-2 win at home to Guatemala signalled his return to form. Perhaps more than anyone else, John is quite grateful for Latapy's presence in the national squad.
"His coming back took a lot of pressure off me," said John. "He can score as well as win games for you and countries know that. The first goal I scored against Guatemala came because Russell drew defenders and I just pulled myself out of the play and let him do his thing and waited for the ball.
"He takes the pressure off me a lot because now they can't look after me alone or Dwight."
But John is also hoping for a return of the positive passion that inspired Trinidad and Tobago to within touching distance of the 1990 World Cup.
He was 13 years old and seated under the national stadium's giant clock when T&T lost 1-0 to the USA on November 19, 1989.
"Being so young, I didn't understand the magnitude of losing and what getting to the World Cup meant," he said. "I think I cried more because I saw everyone else crying and all the emotion At the time, my dream was to play in a match like that at the stadium.
"Hopefully, this is our time. Hopefully, we would be heroes and they won't forget about us."
John's emotional ties with the Port of Spain stadium are perhaps reflected in his scoring chart. From his 15 qualifying goals, only two-at Honduras in 2001 and the Dominican Republic in 2004-came outside Trinidad.
He is hoping for a third away goal in Panama on Saturday but is most interested in Trinidad and Tobago qualifying, whether or not he scores.
He pleaded with fans to support the team and revealed the depth of emotion that flooded their dressing room following their 2-0 win at home to Panama.
After the final whistle, he sat with Yorke in the dressing room and gushed about the flag waving and cheering from the stands. He insisted that it helped the stuttering team recover their belief.
It is time for a final encore from the fans.
"If we are going to the World Cup, we're going as a nation not as a team," he said. "We need to put the negative things aside because the guys really working hard I remember when (West Indies cricket star Brian) Lara broke the record, he said that he hopes everybody supports him in bad times, too, because there will be bad times.
"But the fellas sticking together and working hard because whether the public support us or not, we know we have a job to do."
John hopes to play his part. He insisted that he was just as frustrated as the fans with his form, but promised to do everything possible to help T&T qualify.
He admitted that his drought might have adversely affected their World Cup dream.
"I know I have scored so many goals for Trinidad," he said, "but if I could take them back and score them now instead, I would, because it is such an important time for the team.
"I went through a goal-scoring drought when the team could really do with my goals. It is the first time I ever really went through a drought and it is not something I did on purpose.
"This is the World Cup, this is what you dream about and you are representing 1.5 million but what can you do? As a striker, you must go through a drought at least once in your career.
"But I believe my fitness is back now and my confidence."
He hopes to help fire Trinidad and Tobago to Germany. Some support would be nice.
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: Sam on October 06, 2005, 06:47:45 AM
Stern John if yuh read this message, all I have to say is, while you was in the MLS and the early part of your English career with Nothingham Forest you was my hero and that was in the time when they had top strikers like Owen, Henry, Ronaldo and Clivert etc.... in my books in them time (Yorke apart), you was number one, I felt you was de best striker I have ever seen, you use to shoot from any where on the field, take on defenders, fall back in midfield and tackle and was full of confidence...

I am not saying I am found of you now because I feel you still have it in you but you play little lazy, but I understand that strikers go through a phase, but come on man, if you are not scoring then you need to up your work rate and help in other areas. Brimingham, Conventry and now Derby is seeing this, not juist T&T...

When we played Guatemala and you scored 2 goals you made me very proud and I thank you for that, but when you cuss the fans you show alot of disrespect, the same disrespect you didn't like from the fans is the same you where showing to them, so 2 wrongs dont make a right.

On the given day ANY player puts on a T&T shirt I will support 100%, whether I like them or not, you cannot blame fans for reacting, no one will support a player if he is constantly playing below par apart from his goal scoring droubt other areas you needed to work on....

I also understand a striker like you who needs service to score should not be played as a target striker up front alone, so in your defence, I understand why its hard for you to score goals.

This is a public apology to you Stern John, now go out there and do what you do best, keep your head up as you have been doing.... and go out there and bring back the Stern-Turn, beating a defender, shooting from a distance and buss some goals in Panama and Mexico asses like you did in the MLS...

Good Luck to you and the entire T&T team...
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: trinimuse on October 06, 2005, 07:16:09 AM
...well said...

We fans might seem a fickle bunch but even though yuh does get pong, (an is not only you) everybody was secretly and not so secretly jumping for joy when you scored twice against Guatemala.  I wa s there.  We took it as a sign of things to come.  We support the team, and everybody in the red, white and black.  The team is under pressure.

Its only because we've seen better from you.  Prove us woefully wrong.
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: truetrini on October 06, 2005, 07:16:46 AM
Sam, sometimes yuh is ah real mad man..but den dat is all ah we here.

I like how yuh answer de man and yuh is ah man who does say yuh wrong when yuh wrong.
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: Tongue on October 06, 2005, 07:22:30 AM
WEEEEEEEEY! Sam yuh tryin tuh out do yuhself wit dis post sah! or yuh going down for the game next week and looking for ah free ticket or yuh want Stern tuh give yuh he white jersey dat hard tuh come by.....but outside all dah chupid talk ah givin yuh...yuh come real good dey boss...ah public apology...takes ah big man
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on October 06, 2005, 07:33:09 AM
I agree with yuh dey Sam about he work ethic, I know men does go through they drought but when you only stand up on top and not put a little pressure on the defenders then what yuh expect from people. If you having trouble scoring goals then do the next best thing and fight for a ball with a defender and set up somebody else to score. Besides that though ah feel yuh going to score in Panama.

Warriors forever ;D
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: andre samuel on October 06, 2005, 07:37:57 AM
Nice post brother!!  nice to see my fellow "sternmen" coming out!!
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: arrow on October 06, 2005, 08:35:20 AM
I would like to personally meet with Stern and apologize to him for all the pong I have given him.
In fact I'm going to contact his agent and see if I could set up a meeting with him for Saturday night starting at 9pm EST.  I should only need around 90 minutes of his time to get my points across.
So Stern if you reading this, please accept my invitation and come have a seat with me and hear me out
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Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: Trini on October 06, 2005, 09:18:20 AM
Well yes Arrow  ;D ;D

Allyuh forget Sam is a man looking TTFF wuk now as Licoln have he eyes on him.  :D
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: morvant on October 06, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
I would like to personally meet with Stern and apologize to him for all the pong I have given him.
In fact I'm going to contact his agent and see if I could set up a meeting with him for Saturday night starting at 9pm EST.  I should only need around 90 minutes of his time to get my points accross.
So Stern if you reading this, please accept my invitation and come have a seat with me and hear me out
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002U3V86.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

lardddddddddddd so early and this is my nominee for post of de month

proud member of stern for goals commitee
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: Mr Mc on October 06, 2005, 11:55:28 AM
Arrow is a real arse!!!
even Stern have to laugh when/if he read that one.

Stern come back FigTree for a lil bit, aiming at them cones again go help you out for sure!!
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: Hyperhot J on October 06, 2005, 01:56:30 PM
     Arrow you is a real hater yes, you did not fool me, you trying to meet with Stern from 9pm EST on Saturday for 90 mins means that he will have to NOT play for T&T in that game at all but sit out and talk to you!! hahahha good try. Nah lewwe hope he score a goal in the FIRST half so if is anything, he can always come off in the second and give meh boy Jonesy a play and when he comes off THEN you can meet with him. So if all goes well Stern go score and then you may have a lil 25 or more minutes to meet with him before the 90 minute period is up.   :rotfl:

Hah ahha.

Jason.
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: kounty on October 06, 2005, 02:45:08 PM
so messages to stern go here eh - stern, after the last match in mexico, yuh let me take a picture with you even though the team was dejected after just having lost and the rest of the team was like "nah... time to go sleep'.  I am now a lifelong stern john fan.  I hope you take a lil time and touch a few more fans at home and in Derby.  drop by drop the bucket go full soon.  Also doh forget the world is round....and only 2 people know what in your heart.  Stern , I have more than full confidence that you is the man to lead trinidad however far we go - stay strong and make that 2nd round world cup!!!


ps Arrow, that was real funny I hatta admit
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: andre samuel on October 06, 2005, 02:58:31 PM
Well yes Arrow  ;D ;D

Allyuh forget Sam is a man looking TTFF wuk now as Licoln have he eyes on him.  :D


Yuh know, ah never really look at iit like dat!! lololololololololol
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: ladywarrior on October 06, 2005, 03:31:59 PM

 Stern.. lady warrior here! And you should know who this is because you gave me the name!
 Well said and I will go down supporting you all the way on Saturday AND next week in the National Stadium. Fans need to see things from the players side too! If a player is having a slump that's when he needs your support more than ever! wWare all trinis and if our team wins we win too!
Title: Re: Johnny Bravo...Stern set to shoot back.
Post by: pass(10trini) on October 07, 2005, 06:48:57 AM
Ah see like stern was reading meh post :D.......he use de lara scene to reiterate he point.

De man right 100%, Trini does fuhget quick.

We want to see ' Bountoscore' again. Only one man hada name.

Stern mehboy big up yuhself cause we dey wit yuh.

Pong Panama !!! Pong Panama!!! Pong Panama !!!
Title: video of stern john's goal?
Post by: santacruz on October 09, 2005, 04:29:32 PM
can someone post a clip?
Title: Stern John's goal
Post by: Carib-Briton on October 10, 2005, 07:27:17 AM
Stern John's goal v Panama for anyone who wants it. its a short clip
http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TDPW8QYGZVYE1Y5TSCJUPVZRB
Title: Re: STERN JOHN GOAL.
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 10, 2005, 07:32:13 AM
nice shot
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: jaden on October 10, 2005, 07:53:06 AM
nice goal by stern but also big props to kenwyne jones for the fighting spirit showed, he fall down and still fight to get the ball to stern.

big up jones
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: FF on October 10, 2005, 08:01:46 AM
Yes Futbol... nice thanks

That was a nice build up to de goal too
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Jayerson on October 10, 2005, 08:08:34 AM
Waay, that was some great finishing. The build up looked sweet also.
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Tongue on October 10, 2005, 08:09:07 AM
saw the hilites on GOL TV last night. They recapped all games played. From what dey show we had plenty shots....some were on target others were waaaaaaaay orf....seems like we were givin the Panamanians tooooooo much space at times....in one clip it showed the 'Manians in our 3rd....man take de ball an run past our players and leggo.....We cyah have DAT kinda jokey defending on Wednesday....
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Trini on October 10, 2005, 08:57:32 AM
Anyone notice the pass from Latas to KJ?
One touch
Perfect weight
Laser straight

Pure class.
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Saintz on October 10, 2005, 10:54:59 AM
Pretty cool goal by Stern... Nice fight from Jones and great ball from the Magician!
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Preacher on October 10, 2005, 11:46:54 AM
Sweet goal dey thanks.....
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: skins on October 10, 2005, 12:53:20 PM
what a goal. Hope you have more of that come wednesday against mexico
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: grskywalker on October 10, 2005, 01:20:26 PM
What allyuh watch this on, my media player not reading it. I have to download some codec
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 01:24:43 PM
mines not playin it either. u not alone :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on October 10, 2005, 01:28:06 PM
if you have gol tv put it on right now because they going to show it in like 15 mins
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: JDB on October 10, 2005, 01:31:05 PM
What allyuh watch this on, my media player not reading it. I have to download some codec

try real player, it will download the codec if it doesn't have it already.
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: grskywalker on October 10, 2005, 01:34:23 PM
ok figured it out. BOSS GOAL STERN!

You have to download a codec called Divx. play
http://www.divx.com/divx/codec.php

Once it's downloaded to the hard drive and installed REAL or WINDOWS MEDIA would find it and launch the video
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: grskywalker on October 10, 2005, 01:47:27 PM
Doh take nothing away from Stern nah that goal was wicked
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: monty on October 10, 2005, 01:58:24 PM
great goal for real...
Stern real impress dey.. to think he wasn;t even in an offside position  :) A nice run on to ball and a wicked shot.
I wish i see the celebration for that goal..

Kerwyne crash into small man but recovered nicely too...

One thing about most of T&T goals so far in this tournament, they have been of a high quality. :drool:
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: JDB on October 10, 2005, 02:01:32 PM
One thing about most of T&T goals so far in this tournament, they have been of a high quality. :drool:

Like Stern turn into Mark Hughes.

They always used to describe him as "a scorer of great goals but not a great goalscorer"
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 02:07:10 PM
ok figured it out. BOSS GOAL STERN!

You have to download a codec called Divx. play
http://www.divx.com/divx/codec.php

Once it's downloaded to the hard drive and installed REAL or WINDOWS MEDIA would find it and launch the video

DAN THANKS FUH DE CODEX U IZ AH TRUE WARRIOR FUH HELPING WE OUT THEY AND THANKS FUH DE GAOL TOO FUTBOL

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on October 10, 2005, 02:18:08 PM
great goal for real...
Stern real impress dey.. to think he wasn;t even in an offside position


He wasn't offside because Kenwyne was too fast for him and the only reason he catch up was because the man fall down and see him coming up 2 mins later  ;D

I just joking though, it was a great finish from Bound to score
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 02:20:07 PM
great goal for real...
Stern real impress dey.. to think he wasn;t even in an offside position


He wasn't offside because Kenwyne was too fast for him and the only reason he catch up was because the man fall down and see him coming up 2 mins later  ;D

I just joking though, it was a great finish from Bound to score


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: pass(10trini) on October 10, 2005, 02:22:20 PM
Dat is ah wicked goal .....BOOOOOOOOOOOMM !

Futbol, greysky thanks man for the link and download.  :thumbsup:

We really have ah good ting in dis forum fuh true ppl. Everybody giving ah lil contribution and making dis journey ah truely wonderful experience for all ahwe. This site is a blessing .

Ah sending ah big up to flex. tallman all de warriors and dem out dey who making this site what it is .

Peace .
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: grskywalker on October 10, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
Anyone notice the pass from Latas to KJ?
One touch
Perfect weight
Laser straight

Pure class.

It look like Stern started the move too if I am not mistaken
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: supporter on October 10, 2005, 03:16:14 PM
the bandwith has been exceeded, you think you can post it again?
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: grskywalker on October 10, 2005, 03:20:30 PM
click on the link and then save to your hard drive
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Cowen on October 10, 2005, 03:26:41 PM
Nice build up ...and wicked shot. Those are the kinda goals Stern know how to score ....... not sitters like the one he throw away in the end .. :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: SHOTTA on October 10, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
GREAT GOAL AH SEE IT BOUT 10 TIME LAS NIGHT ALONE ON VARIOUS STATIONS AN FROM EVERY ANGLE IT LOOK GOOD

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Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: troy piloy on October 10, 2005, 05:36:38 PM
Great goal Stern.
Allya he realise he score with his left foot too, Just like he did against Hondurus in the last campain after Mickey Trotman's death.
Maybe this is a sign. R.I.P. Mickey.

Go Stern looking forward to more on wednesday.
Go Soca Warriors
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: Brej on October 10, 2005, 07:03:17 PM
can someone re upload it for me it exceed the download number
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: skins on October 10, 2005, 07:39:00 PM
can someone re upload it for me it exceed the download number

here is the upload

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ASY8ZBVXP5720HE01IW1LYOTU
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: LICKS4SO on October 11, 2005, 10:58:19 AM
it not working now!!!!
Title: Re: Stern John's goal
Post by: vb on October 11, 2005, 11:43:42 AM
ah downloaded but it's not playing one ass.

Oh well, at least I saw it on tv.

Peace,
VB
Title: Stern John
Post by: Trini on October 31, 2005, 03:56:40 PM
Allyuh I jus check some records, stern is officially 9th on the all time number of goals scored internationally.

Of active players now, he is the second most lethal player, with a probability of scoring a goal 72% of the time he takes the field.
Ali Daei (iran) is the leading forward with 74% chance, and also the highest total goals of 106.

That is real goals anyhow u look at it.

Stern is a national treasure, check them names and records:
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/century.html#goals
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: g on October 31, 2005, 04:19:32 PM
Angus Eve on dat list too 34 goals and 118 caps. A true servant of our country.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: FireBrand on October 31, 2005, 04:34:49 PM
Actually he is tied for de no. 8 spot and dat strike rate is simply outstanding. Yuh damn right he is ah national treasure!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: FLi ! on October 31, 2005, 04:57:36 PM
Angus Eve on dat list too 34 goals and 118 caps. A true servant of our country.

Props to Stern, but u see men like Angus Eve, they have done yeomans service to TnT; scoring crucial goals at crucial times and he tends to be underated!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on October 31, 2005, 05:10:08 PM
The man who topping the list Ali Daei look at who he scoring against. That is why I does wonder about the validity of these lists. You grouping a man like Ali Daei who playing games against Syria and Oman against the likes of Ronaldo and Pele. He must be on top.


Big up Stern still though.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on October 31, 2005, 05:28:24 PM
like allyuh forget iz bound-to-score allyuh talking about

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Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: SHOTTA on October 31, 2005, 06:42:56 PM
im nut suprised dat stern is almost on top its just wat ive come to expect

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Preacher on October 31, 2005, 07:17:53 PM
I read that list i ent see no USA players.....whey Landon?  Whey Eric Wanalda?  Them fellas seriously ignorant qui.......
Imagine...a commentator say he was talking with Stern and Stern said he might consider coming back to the MLS to play in a couple of years........Wanalda jump up and say Stern need sto be wanted first....Implying that Stern John is not good enough to play MLS...... >:(
I want them in we group bad bad....
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Brej on November 01, 2005, 09:29:35 AM
Total record

Matches  Won Draw Lost  For Against  Points  Percentage
    89    44  11   34   157 - 118       99     55.62
that aint to hot
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: truetrini on November 01, 2005, 09:31:43 AM
Stern is ah boss!

Truetrini President of VICE ..of  Stern for Goals Committee
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: ANC2 on November 01, 2005, 09:49:49 AM
Stern is a boss I will give him that. But one has to consider the opposition. Man like Ali Daeli / Stern and most of the others it simply is not the same. Imagine if Ronaldo, Romario, Pele Muller and dem play St Kitts, Netherland Antilles and Barbados. Leh we give Stern he props but doh go over board.

Good Job Stern all the same
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 10:02:50 AM
yeah pele would score about ah million on st kitts ent...... stupes face it you could only score on your opponent and pele had his and stern had his also

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Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: truetrini on November 01, 2005, 10:04:53 AM
Stern is ah boss!

He scored on very good opponents!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: ANC2 on November 01, 2005, 10:09:31 AM
yeah pele would score about ah million on st kitts ent...... stupes face it you could only score on your opponent and pele had his and stern had his also

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE


Dat is the most tata I ever read. So man in Intercol have a better goal scoring record than Yorke in the Premier, so he better???
Several people does argue that players have good records in one league eg. EPL but would not score with the same rate and consistency in Italy.
No one would argue with that yet, when it is a Trini involved the argument turn around. All yuh eh easy nah
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 10:16:09 AM
killer yuh could only judge ah man from what he actually did and not based on what if's. just because men doin good in one league dont mean he go be able to cope with another league.we spoke about this a few weeks ago when men was saying that they cannot play with spanish men and so on.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: ANC2 on November 01, 2005, 10:26:04 AM
killer yuh could only judge ah man from what he actually did and not based on what if's. just because men doin good in one league dont mean he go be able to cope with another league.we spoke about this a few weeks ago when men was saying that they cannot play with spanish men and so on.

Look we talking International football here. Players face different opposition but no one can deny that some opposition is way below a certain standard. It have man scoring seven goals against Soloman islands (as an example), we have to be realistic in assessment of the individual. That is all I am saying. I eh fighting down Stern achievements.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Tongue on November 01, 2005, 11:08:50 AM
ok, GOOD! he up dey with de rest.....Right now the most important goal for him to score is against dem Bahrainians.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 01, 2005, 11:13:28 AM
killer yuh could only judge ah man from what he actually did and not based on what if's. just because men doin good in one league dont mean he go be able to cope with another league.we spoke about this a few weeks ago when men was saying that they cannot play with spanish men and so on.

Morvant yuh being real biased.
Yuh cannot lump Ali Daei, Stern John and Pele in the same list and expect the list to be a credible one.

If yuh jes using it to see how much goals a man score is one thing but if yuh using it to judge how good a goal scorer someone is it eh good.

If yuh place all the strikers on an even keel and put some in the Asian Group some in COMNEBOL and some in CONCACAF it eh go be equal yuh cannot compare them. The groups not equal in strength.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: kicker on November 01, 2005, 11:22:18 AM
If y'all ever study statistics, you would know that it would not wise to judge the best striker in the world just by his scoring records......stats don't tell a full story.

However, the top scorers list is not trying to judge who the best striker is, it's just listing the individuals who have been most prolific in scoring for their respective countries...so regardless of who they played against, and who better than who..........we have to give them their props, because they have obviously been very valuable to their nat'l teams......and have put in credit-worthy service.


Stern eh better than Ronaldo...we know that.......and the top scorers list is not implying that either.... so lewwe just give respect where respect is due.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Pointman on November 01, 2005, 11:24:26 AM
Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 01, 2005, 11:36:53 AM
If y'all ever study statistics, you would know that it would not wise to judge the best striker in the world just by his scoring records......stats don't tell a full story.

However, the top scorers list is not trying to judge who the best striker is, it's just listing the individuals who have been most prolific in scoring for their respective countries...so regardless of who they played against, and who better than who..........we have to give them their props, because they have obviously been very valuable to their nat'l teams......and have put in credit-worthy service.


Stern eh better than Ronaldo...we know that.......and the top scorers list is not implying that either.... so lewwe just give respect where respect is due.


that is all I was saying.
Do not use that list as no yardstick to measure anybody by.

Stern good but it have plenty better players than him on the list. So when yuh reading the list jes look at how much goals he have and not compare him to anytbody else on the list.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 11:40:26 AM
all i'm saying is does anyone think that if pele and them fellers was under BSC and getting ah set ah stupid long ball right tru and we have to remember these guys had a unit to compliment them.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: ANC2 on November 01, 2005, 11:49:42 AM
Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!

If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 01, 2005, 11:58:07 AM
all i'm saying is does anyone think that if pele and them fellers was under BSC and getting ah set ah stupid long ball right tru and we have to remember these guys had a unit to compliment them.


so leh we flip that scenario now

If the Brasil starting line up did read Carlos Alberto, Jairzinho, Tostão, Gérson  Rivelino, John etc etc

Stern John name would a be first on the goal scoring list??
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 12:05:25 PM
call me an asshole but i think yes :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 01, 2005, 12:10:10 PM
call me an asshole but i think yes :beermug:

that is what yuh does call blind allegiance.

big up Stern John same way
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 12:18:11 PM
well at least we could agree on that :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Pointman on November 01, 2005, 12:23:56 PM
Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!

If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing



That is not exactly true either because there are many factors influencing where players play.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Carib-Briton on November 01, 2005, 12:25:41 PM
Big Up Stern John! ;D
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Pointman on November 01, 2005, 12:34:49 PM
Big Up Stern John! ;D

INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S WE HORSE AND WE RIDING HIM TO DE PROMISE LAND!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Preacher on November 01, 2005, 12:45:56 PM
Question ....Question....so when Yorke score all them goal for MAnU.....that was because he so good our the team real good.....?   Answer this question and then think about what Stern has accomplished
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 12:50:47 PM
is that a question if man u was a good team.....................

after yorke left he was'nt gettin beckham crosses again so the goals wer'nt comming as it was b4.

not saying that he aint ah menace but fact is fact.

look at our team now stern scoring two ah game because men feeding him well but the same man goin home to he club and cyar make
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 01, 2005, 01:27:33 PM
Morvant letting he patriotism blind he better judgement
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: morvant on November 01, 2005, 01:29:19 PM
guilty as charged. after the 18th i'll go back to my regular self.
i will need two days to cool down ;D
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: ANC2 on November 01, 2005, 01:32:07 PM
Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!

If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing



That is not exactly true either because there are many factors influencing where players play.

Indeed but the better players in the World playing for the better teams in the World.
Who is Marc Lloyd Williams?
Ara Hakobian?
Andrei krolov?

Who? Exactly. All golden Boot winners for the top scorers in Europe over the last 3 years. the fact remain that they playing in Wales, Armenia and Estonia. So they win the award but none play for the better teams in the World. They all scoring goals for fun in their respective leagues. None actually good enough for the top teams. Stern was in the EPL & First division and if he was good enough he would have definately been bought by a big team or even a minnow in the EPL, Portugal, Spain, Germany ----------
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Pointman on November 01, 2005, 01:59:05 PM
Stern John can score on any team as long as he getting the proper service!!!

If this statement were true Stern would not be playing where he is presently playing



That is not exactly true either because there are many factors influencing where players play.

Indeed but the better players in the World playing for the better teams in the World.
Who is Marc Lloyd Williams?
Ara Hakobian?
Andrei krolov?

Who? Exactly. All golden Boot winners for the top scorers in Europe over the last 3 years. the fact remain that they playing in Wales, Armenia and Estonia. So they win the award but none play for the better teams in the World. They all scoring goals for fun in their respective leagues. None actually good enough for the top teams. Stern was in the EPL & First division and if he was good enough he would have definately been bought by a big team or even a minnow in the EPL, Portugal, Spain, Germany ----------

Stern John is world class. If you were to examin his game, whether he's playing in the MLS, EPL or for T&T, he is a goal scorer. He is very efficient with the ball, no unnecessary and extra moves, just deadly finishes. Stern's time in the EPL has been marked by injuries and a goal scoring slump(that many top goal scorers experience from time to time). I firmly believe that he can play on a few Premiership clubs.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Flex on November 02, 2005, 04:01:58 AM
Stern John ranked with the top concacaf scorers and with 2 games in hand he could very well be tops.

N./C. American and Caribbean Zone. (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/stats/player.html?zone=ncc)
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: fishs on November 02, 2005, 04:48:53 AM
Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.

TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Observer on November 02, 2005, 07:28:34 AM
Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.

TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!


Boss who arguning against that?? Stern doing he business and we will support him. But I agree with what many are saying.

By the way Pointman does World Class not mean being able to play for any team in the World. That is a strong statement boss.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: spideybuff on November 02, 2005, 07:40:30 AM
Stern John is a world class...tell me who scoring goals regular for Birmingham City under Steve Bruce? NOBODY ! Tell me who score goals regular for Forest under David Platt? NOBODY !
Tha's not Stern fault if the team not playing a style that aimed toward scoring goals.
I not commenting on Coventry and Derby because the Stern over the period September 2004 to September 2005 was not the same Stern John who is Trinidad's leading goal scorer. Only in the game against Mexico he look like the man we know and love...even the double against the Guats wasn't d 'real' Stern.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: pass(10trini) on November 02, 2005, 07:54:10 AM
Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.

TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!


Boss who arguning against that?? Stern doing he business and we will support him. But I agree with what many are saying.

By the way Pointman does World Class not mean being able to play for any team in the World. That is a strong statement boss.

Stern mekin any team dred .

World class .
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Observer on November 02, 2005, 08:13:47 AM
Stern John is a world class...tell me who scoring goals regular for Birmingham City under Steve Bruce? NOBODY ! Tell me who score goals regular for Forest under David Platt? NOBODY !
Tha's not Stern fault if the team not playing a style that aimed toward scoring goals.
I not commenting on Coventry and Derby because the Stern over the period September 2004 to September 2005 was not the same Stern John who is Trinidad's leading goal scorer. Only in the game against Mexico he look like the man we know and love...even the double against the Guats wasn't d 'real' Stern.


So what you saying Phillips and Forssell is world class players too then.
Phillips top score for he club and the EPL once. Forssell before an almost career ending injury scored 19 goals in 34 games for Birmingham on his debut. He is World Class too then.
Allyuh need to get a better handle on what World Class actually means in terms of World Football.

As I Said Stern is we player so I support him all the way

But World Class players don't play for Derby, Forrest, Birmingham
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 02, 2005, 12:32:44 PM

But World Class players don't play for Derby, Forrest, Birmingham


let Stern John only do shit come the 12th in that Stadium, yuh go hear them.
Boy Stern John is real shit boy.
He eh go be world class then.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Observer on November 02, 2005, 12:36:47 PM

But World Class players don't play for Derby, Forrest, Birmingham


let Stern John only do shit come the 12th in that Stadium, yuh go hear them.
Boy Stern John is real shit boy.
He eh go be world class then.


 ;Dhahaha not long ago they was calling for he to get drop. Is only after Panama & Mexico man start to mention Stern in a positive light.
Then again we talking about Trini remember the board when he miss the penalty hahahah
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Swomp on November 02, 2005, 12:53:02 PM
Plain and simple...STERN JOHN IS A  BOSS
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Ponnoxx on November 02, 2005, 02:17:22 PM
 Stern 'bound to score' John...I want to see the Stern Turn in the World Cup...Go T&T
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: FF on November 02, 2005, 02:21:04 PM
Stern 'bound to score' John...I want to see the Stern Turn in the World Cup...Go T&T


More like de "Stern 3-Point Turn" now


Doh dig no horrors... big up Stern!!  ;D
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: andre samuel on November 02, 2005, 02:30:24 PM
i love this site!! lol

Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol

Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.

ah love it!! lol
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Pointman on November 02, 2005, 02:42:19 PM
Although these stats flattering to some men, STERN JOHN was born a Trinidadian, so the only team he could play for is Trinidad.
Everything else is pure speculation, so with all the great footballers we had, Gally, Steve David, Warren Archibald and have Latapy, Yorke, STERN JOHN still score the most against any opposition.

TREASURER OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE !!!!


Boss who arguning against that?? Stern doing he business and we will support him. But I agree with what many are saying.

By the way Pointman does World Class not mean being able to play for any team in the World. That is a strong statement boss.
Observer, I still stand by my opinion of Stern's game. I probably would not put Stern in the same class as a Ronaldo or Ronaldinho or Henry and a short list of others, but as I said before there are other factors that determine which teams players play for. Brazilians(for legit reasons) get more looks by big clubs than others and Trinis are far down on the "look list" but because of men like Dwight and Latas and Shaka we are starting to really peek the interest of some of the bigger named clubs in the world.
To me Stern John is every bit as deadly as Dwight was in his prime and I'm willing to bet that if Stern had the same kind of service as Dwight had from Becks he'd be just as successful. Dwight played on the best team in the world and in the best league in the world(ah doh care wha none ah allyuh say) and accomplish something no other Trini or West Indian fr that matter, ever had before or since... winning the treble. I don't see why the same thing could not have happened to Stern on a similar team. That's my two cents. Stern is meh horse,slump or no slump(buh lehwe doh goat mouth him)
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini Simply Better on November 03, 2005, 04:26:41 PM
Stern has one advantage.  His shot is like a rocket, but many times inaccurate.  He also needs to stay on side.  He has record offsides. More than I have ever seen in a single game.  He needs much more to his game in order to be a world class player.  He is now on a club team that keeps him on the bench and most of the time even off the list of players for their games. You r right he is no Ronadinio, or Ronaldo or Henry.  He is the simple Stern John.
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: dwn on November 03, 2005, 04:52:04 PM
Question ....Question....so when Yorke score all them goal for MAnU.....that was because he so good our the team real good.....? Answer this question and then think about what Stern has accomplished

Both. Is a combination of the two.

Is not like Yorke was doing nothing, and the rest of Man Utd used to stop the ball on the line and let him kick it in.

Without his movement off the ball, his opportunism, his heading ability, his understanding of the game etc etc etc. he would have never done what he did. if you cant lose your marker and finish clinically, service not doing nuttin for you.

Also - The better the player the less he will need to rely on perfect "service". eg. if a man have real speed he might reach a pull stones pass. or if a striker can take on defenders on the run (like an Henry) he wont need perfect crosses swung into the box to get goals...

all i'm saying is does anyone think that if pele and them fellers was under BSC and getting ah set ah stupid long ball right tru and we have to remember these guys had a unit to compliment them.

i understand what you saying but if stern was being man marked by nesta, terry, stam etc. would he have as many goals?


Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: SHOTTA on November 03, 2005, 09:40:51 PM
i love this site!! lol

Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol

Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.

ah love it!! lol



i was never one a dem people but u know ur selves an d stern bandwagon hav nufff rooom for all


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Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Savannah boy on November 03, 2005, 09:51:01 PM
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Why do you say that.  I really saw some of his games.  Maybe for T&T he is great but as for world class football he does not rank anything there.

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Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini Simply Better on November 04, 2005, 07:49:36 AM
Our players are young and have a great future ahead of them.  Their average age is 26.  Your guys are mostly older and had better oppotunities.  A few of our players were approached by European teams (the best being Manchester City) 4 years ago, but some FIFA regulation regarding the team ranking (114 at that time) blocked those deals from going thru.  But now we do have worthy players that would interest international clubs.  When Bahrain reaches the World Cup you will see some deals going thru.

Hope that that answers your concern  :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini on November 04, 2005, 10:08:12 AM
All them footballers from asia is shithong.
Only a very few make it to the top leagues in Europe.
If any do make it, it will be most likely Man U or Chelsea, cause to have a chinese or any asian player on the team = 1 billion more football jerseys will sell.

As for Bahrain, them fellas too weak to play in europe.

All the clips I see of asian football, and Bahrain clips, it look like exhibition football.

One hard jam from Air Dog, and a blade from Avery on the left will welcome them to big man football.

The cream of Baharin crop plays in leagues where there are many big names, but these big names are averaging 40 years old. Even I could hit batty-goal Batistuta a spanner and embarass him soon.

You say your players young, average age of 26, Ha, what a joke!

U call that young? I will never want u setting me up with a girl from your country if i looking for a young thing.

That is almost the average of out team as well.

The fact that half of your team plays outside and half is domestic says that Bahrain is in trouble.

If your league was any good, all the players would be there.

If it is poor as I suspect, ALL of your team would be playing outside. Maybe half of the team not good enough to get a foreign contract?

We have about 18 players playing outside of T&T between MLS, England, Scotland, Australia, Japan J League Division 1...all way more advanced that that shit Kuwait league.

We have players who have played in the Champions League Final.

We have players playing in the Champions league since 1995.

We have players playing/played for the top 5 teams in Europe (Rangers, Porto and Man Utd), and a host of other premier league teams.

U talk about crowd, Dwight Yorke has gone to Barcelona, Germany, Juventus and Inter Milan and singlehandedly destroyed those defenses.

Our goalkeeper Shaka Hislop saves agasint the likes of Thierry Henry, Robert Pires, Alan Shearer, paul Scholes etc etc.

Stern John has scored on may separate occasions against teams like the US, Mexico, Jamaica, even a hattrick vs Colombia.

Has Baharin ever scored 3 goals in a game? I think Stern John has more total goals than Bahrain over the last 5-7 years.

The only future your team has is to watch the World Cup in Germany and cheer for T&T, your inevitable conquerors.

You will be introduced to "SHOCK AND AWE" come Nov 12 in Trinidad.

Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Trini Simply Better on November 04, 2005, 10:16:06 AM
All them footballers from asia is shithong.
Only a very few make it to the top leagues in Europe.
If any do make it, it will be most likely Man U or Chelsea, cause to have a chinese or any asian player on the team = 1 billion more football jerseys will sell.

As for Bahrain, them fellas too weak to play in europe.

All the clips I see of asian football, and Bahrain clips, it look like exhibition football.

One hard jam from Air Dog, and a blade from Avery on the left will welcome them to big man football.

The cream of Baharin crop plays in leagues where there are many big names, but these big names are averaging 40 years old. Even I could hit batty-goal Batistuta a spanner and embarass him soon.

You say your players young, average age of 26, Ha, what a joke!

U call that young? I will never want u setting me up with a girl from your country if i looking for a young thing.

That is almost the average of out team as well.

The fact that half of your team plays outside and half is domestic says that Bahrain is in trouble.

If your league was any good, all the players would be there.

If it is poor as I suspect, ALL of your team would be playing outside. Maybe half of the team not good enough to get a foreign contract?

We have about 18 players playing outside of T&T between MLS, England, Scotland, Australia, Japan J League Division 1...all way more advanced that that shit Kuwait league.

We have players who have played in the Champions League Final.

We have players playing in the Champions league since 1995.

We have players playing/played for the top 5 teams in Europe (Rangers, Porto and Man Utd), and a host of other premier league teams.

U talk about crowd, Dwight Yorke has gone to Barcelona, Germany, Juventus and Inter Milan and singlehandedly destroyed those defenses.

Our goalkeeper Shaka Hislop saves agasint the likes of Thierry Henry, Robert Pires, Alan Shearer, paul Scholes etc etc.

Stern John has scored on may separate occasions against teams like the US, Mexico, Jamaica, even a hattrick vs Colombia.

Has Baharin ever scored 3 goals in a game? I think Stern John has more total goals than Bahrain over the last 5-7 years.

The only future your team has is to watch the World Cup in Germany and cheer for T&T, your inevitable conquerors.

You will be introduced to "SHOCK AND AWE" come Nov 12 in Trinidad.



Good points and agree with a lot of what you say but I have to go now.  I will elaborate later. :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: nobody_s angel on November 04, 2005, 04:54:16 PM
i love this site!! lol

Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol

Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.

ah love it!! lol

Boy I reading this and I was feeling as if I were in the twilight zone. What happen to all the Men that cuss Stern when he cuss us.

I given credit where credit is due. Thanks for the goals Stern but I not jumping on no band wagon.

Just think how great you would be if u just stop complaining and work a little harder. Notice; you haven't been complaining since Latapy came back and u scoring goals. Latas wouldn't be around forever. Lets see how greatness would rise then.

I'm just saying in this thread the man have faults and I am not being a hypocrite and jumping on the wagon.

Besides the more u cuss him the more goals he score.  ;)  RIGHT:D
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: ladywarrior on November 04, 2005, 07:48:55 PM

   Stern is good soldier, we need to be proud of him .  Trinis we  have to weigh the good against the bad and take what comes out on top and right now stern have we looking damn good!
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: dutchman on November 05, 2005, 12:05:47 AM
Besides the more u cuss him the more goals he score.  ;)  RIGHT:D
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Thnks Angel :),you open my eyes
I'm always thinking my wife mad & vex, I know now she really loves me 
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: Pointman on November 05, 2005, 02:43:14 PM
i love this site!! lol

Before the guatemala game, people was saying that he shouldnt play for us and how he should be on the bench!! lol

Now, less than 2 months later, man saying that he is world class and that he could make any team in de world.....lol.

ah love it!! lol


I wasn't one ah dem men dogging Stern
Title: Re: Stern John
Post by: nobody_s angel on November 06, 2005, 05:12:54 PM
Besides the more u cuss him the more goals he score.  ;)  RIGHT:D
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Thnks Angel :),you open my eyes
I'm always thinking my wife mad & vex, I know now she really loves me 


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Flex on November 09, 2005, 03:32:10 AM
Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
By: Keith Clement (Guardian).
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Germany 2006 The final thrust.
Striker Stern John turned from villain to hero on October 12, when he scored two goals to lead T&T to a 2-1 victory over Mexico in the team’s final Concacaf World Cup qualifying match at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo.
John, who missed a penalty in the 31st minute, redeemed himself in the 42nd minute when he tap in a shot, after the ball rebounded off the upright, following a low and powerful right-footed shot from midfielder Aurtis Whitley, to close the first half 1-1.
The goal was John’s 17th. It made him the country’s leading scorer in World Cup qualifying football.
In his efforts to erase his missed penalty from the minds of local football fans and to keep his critics quiet, he added another goal that gave T&T a 2-1 lead and victory, when he capitalised on a loose ball from outside the penalty area and blasted a left-footer high into the back of the net in the 61st minute. T&T now go into a two-match play-off with Bahrain on Saturday at home to be followed by an away fixture next Wednesday.
During the World Cup 2006 campaign, nine players scored their first World Cup goals for the Warriors. They are Hector Sam, Jerren Nixon, Cornell Glen, Errol McFarlane Jr, Jason Scotland, Densill Theobald and Scott Sealy. McFarlane scored three times.
John, however, accumulated his goals over the 1998, 2002 and current 2006 campaigns. For the 2006 journey, T&T played 17 matches and John scored in eight of them.
He scored doubles against Mexico, Guatemala and St Kitts and Nevis.
He has followed in the path of another great national striker, Steve David, who held the honour for 48 years with 16 goals, following his exploits in the 1974 and 1978 campaigns.
Before John broke into the goal-scoring title race, midfielder Angus Eve started the 2006 World Cup campaign with nine goals, but limited play after the preliminary round saw him gave way to John.
David, who was a member of T&T’s 1974 and 1978 World Cup squads, opened his goal scoring account with a hat-trick when the twin-island Republic hammered Antigua and Barbuda 11-1 in their first qualifying game at King George V Park on November 10, 1972.
The scorer of T&T’s first World Cup goal, however, was Jeff Gellineau who scored in the very first minute of play against Suriname, who lost 4-1.
It was Gellineau’s only World Cup goal.
David, who was said to be very skilful and blessed with kicking power, went on to score against Antigua and Barbuda in the return match, which T&T won 2-1. He then scored the only goal that defeated Suriname on November 30, as T&T played unbeaten in the group.
In the final qualifying round involving Haiti, Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and the Netherlands Antilles, David netted a 61st minute item but T&T went down 1-2 to Honduras. He then scored the lone item for his country against Haiti but, again, it was another 1-2 loss.
He scored five goals in the next two matches–one against Mexico who T&T defeated 4-0 and became the first T&T player to attain a beaver-trick scoring all four goals when T&T routed the Netherlands Antilles.
It was Haiti, however, who went to Germany to represent the region with eight points, while T&T finished second on six and Mexico third, also on six points.
David played again in the 1978 qualifiers and scored three more times to climax his career.
Eve was a member of the 1991 World Youth Cup squad that went to Portugal and he made his senior debut also in 1991.
It was not until 1994 World Cup, though, that he made his debut in a campaign that ended in August 1992 when Jamaica defeated T&T and then drew 1-1 in Port-of-Spain.
Eve, a former Defence Force midfielder, scored his first World Cup goal in the 1998 qualifiers when T&T beat the Dominican Republic 4-1 in June 1996. National skipper Russell Latapy scored twice, one being an own-goal.
In the returned match, he scored two in a 8-0 victory.
The former ECM Motown and Defence Force player holds the distinction as being the top goal scorer in the 1995 Shell Cup tournament which T&T won. Eve who held the reigns as national captain in the absence of Dwight Yorke and Russell Latapy, struck the back of the net six times.
The Carenage-born player who helped Defence Force to the 1995 Semi Professional Football League title with 14 goals, scored six times in the 12 qualifying matches in T&T’s attempt to book a place in Japan/Korea 2002.

T&T’s leading World Cup goal scorers

18 - Stern John
16 - Steve David
11 - Angus Eve
8 - Russell Latapy
6 - Dwight Yorke
5 - Marvin Faustin, Noel Llewellyn, Arnold Dwarika
4 - Marvin Andrews, Hutson Charles
3 - Jerren Nixon, Errol McFarlane Jr, Everald Cummings, Leonson Lewis, Nigel Pierre
2 - Andy Aleong, Leroy Spann, Ray Roberts, Philbert Jones, Kerry Jamerson, Anthony Rougier
1 - Carlos Edwards, Dennis Lawrence, Jason Scotland, Densill Theobald, Scott Sealy, Cornell Glen, Hector Sam, Jeff Gellineau, Alvin Corneal, Bobby Sookram, Leo Brewster, Warren Archibald, Anthony Douglas, Leon Carpette, Selris Figaro, Adrian Fonrose, Anton Corneal, Brian Haynes, Nevick Denoon.

About the Warriors

How broad is your knowledge base on the facts of T&T’s football history? G-Sports Arena is very happy to help you rekindle some lost history.

• T&T’s first World Cup match was Sunday, February 7, 1965 vs Suriname in Port-of-Spain. T&T won 4-1.

• T&T’s 11 World Cup captains—Sedley Joseph, Tyronne de la Bastide, Selwyn Murren, Selris Figaro, Leroy Spann, Michael Maurice, Clayton Morris, Dexter Francis, Russell Latapy, Angus Eve and Dwight Yorke (current).

• Stern John has so far scored the most World Cup goals for T&T (18).

• T&T youngest player was Dwight Yorke at age 17 years, 11 months and 19 days on Sunday October 30, 1988, vs Honduras at Queen’s Park Oval.

• T&T’s widest margin of victory in a World Cup match is 11-1 versus Antigua and Barbuda on November 10, 1972. The widest victory margin ever recorded, however, was 12-0 in a friendly vs Venezuela, in 1971, at Queen’s Park Oval.

• Steve David was the first player to score a World Cup hat-trick. He scored on November 10, 1972 against Antigua.

• Steve David was the first player to score a beaver-trick (vs Netherlands Antilles, December 17, 1973 and Marvin Faustin was the second (vs Guyana, April 17, 1988).

• Two players who became World Cup coaches—Alvin Corneal (played in 1966 qualifiers; coached in 1986 qualifiers) and Everald Cummings (played 1970, 1974 qualifiers; coached in 1990 qualifiers).

• Jeff Gellineau scored T&T’s fastest World Cup goal, first minute in February, 1965 (vs Suriname).

• Alvin Corneal (Feb 1965) and Anton Corneal (May 1988) are the only father and son to score for T&T in a World Cup qualifier.
Stern John's Caribbean dream
By: FIFAworldcup.com.
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It could almost be a quiz question designed to confuse any football fan: 'Which player, currently playing his club football in England, but not in the Premiership, has scored more international goals than Ronaldo, Gabriel Batistuta, Bobby Charlton and Jurgen Klinsmann?'

The answer can be found at Derby County Football Club and their striker Stern John, currently on loan from Coventry City. The 31-year old has scored 64 goals in 89 matches for Trinidad and Tobago and is just 13 goals away from equalling the legendary Pele's tally. But now the charismatic John has Bahrain and a FIFA World Cup™ appearance in his sights – and fans in Port of Spain will be praying he adds to his goals' total against the Asian hopefuls.

FIFAworldcup.com: Your scoring record for T&T is phenomenal – when you made your international debut nearly ten years ago did you think you’d score this many goals?
Stern John: No, but I wanted to! As a striker you love scoring goals, you want to score goals and I believed in my own ability. But I didn't think that I would score this amount. To be honest, I haven't really paid attention to the number of goals I have scored, until I was coming up to the record. But I didn't know how close I was to Pele's total until this interview. That's awesome! That's something that every player would like to do, but feel that they couldn't because Pele is such a legend.

How does it feel to be T&T's record goalscorer?
A goalscoring record is something that no one can take away from you. It's something that I am proud of, it's something that my family and friends are proud of and the joy that I feel right now will be increased providing we qualify for the World Cup. Being Trinidad and Tobago's record goalscorer is an honour, a great honour and it is something that I will cherish throughout my career and for the rest of my life.

It must be great to play in a side that create so many chances for you?
It is. We are a great team when we go forward because we have a lot of skilful players and players who do well whenever they have the ball at their feet. They make it easy for me to put the ball in the back of the net. Sometimes, I feel a little bit harsh on the other players: I get all the glory for scoring, but the guys who I'm playing with are doing most of the hard work for me.

How crucial has the return of Russell Lapaty been for T&T?
He and his return have been very, very important for us. We were struggling to create chances before he came into the team and that put a lot of pressure on myself to make the most of the opportunities I found myself in. Russell can not only create chances, but he can score goals as well, so it is no surprise that the team have been doing better since he has come back.

What's it like playing with Dwight Yorke?
He is a top man. He is one of the best players that I have played with or played against. I think he is still one of the best finishers in the world. He is a great professional who works really hard and he always goes about his job properly. It's great to play alongside him, we have a good understanding and I would like to think that our partnership works well for the team.

How did you feel when you missed the penalty against Mexico in the final qualifier?
Thanks for reminding me! No one would have wanted to be in my boots after that miss. My boots didn't even want to be my boots after that. I felt awful. But I had to put it to the back of my mind quickly and get over it. When you take a penalty you either score or miss. Sounds simple, doesn't it, but the emotions you feel are really powerful. On this occasion, the keeper made a good save and I just had to dig myself out of the hole I wanted to put myself in. To come back and score two goals after the penalty miss and win the game shows the character that we have in this side.

Are you confident going into the play-offs with Bahrain?
Yes we are confident. We don't know much about Bahrain, we are just focusing on ourselves. We don't want to take Bahrain too lightly. It's a massive game for both countries but there is no question of us underestimating them. We do think we are a better team than they are – but now we have to go out there and prove it.

Would you say you were favourites?
I think the general footballing world would consider us as favourites, but in a play-off situation, anything can happen. It's just two games, it's about who wants it more. Now we have to stay focused, forget about all the distractions and the feelings of excitement about playing at a World Cup – we just have to get there by beating Bahrain.

Would you have preferred to play the second leg at home?
Yes, I would have done. In truth, you always want to play the second leg at home, despite what other players and coaches may say. The first game is very important. It sets the tone for the second match. Personally I would have loved to qualify in Trinidad. It is something that we have been trying to do for decades; we came so close in 1989 – we only needed a point and we lost the game against the USA, so that's left a bitter taste in the mouth. However, I suppose that the most important thing is not where we qualify, but qualification itself.

What difference has coach Leo Beenhakker made to the team?
Leo has made a massive difference. He and his staff came in and set their stall out by telling us what they wanted to achieve and how they were going to do it. The players understand him; he understands the players and I think he has done brilliantly. He has been a great influence for me. When I was going through a bit of a drought, he kept his faith in me when the fans didn't and that is something that I will never forget. His appointment has been great for the team and for the country.

Do you think you would have been in this position without him?
I don't think so. When he came in he made a lot of changes and I think we needed that. A lot of the players were too comfortable under the old regime, but now different players have been brought in and we are trying different things. He has tested us and brought the best out of us.

And finally, just how far are T&T away from challenging the United States, Mexico and Costa Rica in the CONCACAF region?
I can see us challenging them and perhaps overtaking them. We have players who are working in the world's top leagues – players just as good as the Costa Rica, Mexico and the USA. What we have to do now is stick together as a team, work hard and keep our discipline. That is the most important thing, especially on the pitch. The USA don't really have a star player – they are just a very good team. We have to copy their example. But if we qualify for the World Cup, things are only going to get better for us.
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: andre samuel on November 09, 2005, 06:30:20 AM
De amount of times my pores raised during this interview is not funny!

that is an interview out of the top drawer and i loved every minute of it!!

Well done stern, well done!!

ah love it bad!!

Ps: flex, ah feel yuh have tuh control how u release these articles, cause i ent feel that my heart could take so much at one time.....lol
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Sam on November 09, 2005, 07:14:09 AM
Excellent interview....
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: AB.Trini on November 09, 2005, 07:19:33 AM
Very inspiring read!!!!!! 'by any means necessary'
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: behind-de-bridge on November 09, 2005, 07:34:04 AM
Big up to Stern. All we players seem to give very interviews!
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: warmonga on November 09, 2005, 07:34:50 AM
I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked  up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: grskywalker on November 09, 2005, 07:54:12 AM
i CYAH TAKE IT, Saturday cannot get here fast enough, I CAN ALMOST TASTE THAT WIN
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Flex on November 09, 2005, 07:59:25 AM
Well he score both winners with his left foot against MEX and PAN so Trotman must be loving it....
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Gladman on November 09, 2005, 08:21:54 AM
Big up Stern
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: skins on November 09, 2005, 08:29:55 AM
Stern is a top class striker and he is only a few goals away from the legendary pele. I could imagine his name in the same sentence with pele. All tnt have to do is beat bahrain and make the world cup. Stern you is boss go score some goals on Bahrain..... Beat Bahrain BAD...
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: arrow on November 09, 2005, 08:30:59 AM
I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked  up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..

Imagine a big sports writer for the Guardian saying Stern score a header, he probably didn't even watch the game.  He also call de man "Otis Whittley".  Clement must be a pure bred waggonist.

The blasted ball was bouncing along the ground after it rebound off the post from Whitley shot.  De only man who coulda score a header from dat situation is Cyd Gray!
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: truetrini on November 09, 2005, 08:34:06 AM
I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked  up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..

Imagine a big sports writer for the Guardian saying Stern score a header, he probably didn't even watch the game.  He also call de man "Otis Whittley".  Clement must be a pure bred waggonist.

The blasted ball was bouncing along the ground after it rebound off the post from Whitley shot.  De only man who coulda score a header from dat situation is Cyd Gray!

Dat cyd gray shit have yuh panties in ah knot boy!   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Next time we meet we wearing Cyd Gray shirst saying   For good head call Cyd Gray!
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: warmonga on November 09, 2005, 10:42:21 AM
I aint trying to get davejenny treatment but did I read correct when dem sey he 1st goal scored against mexico was a header?...Was I dat smoked  up I swear John scored dat wid his foot..
warmonga..

Imagine a big sports writer for the Guardian saying Stern score a header, he probably didn't even watch the game.  He also call de man "Otis Whittley".  Clement must be a pure bred waggonist.

The blasted ball was bouncing along the ground after it rebound off the post from Whitley shot.  De only man who coulda score a header from dat situation is Cyd Gray!
Thanks for clearing dat up boss.. I know de man score wid he foot but dat writer ketch mi dey boss.. I start looking for de replay of de goals again to see I was correct.. Yow sum of dem writers is peer waggonist but mi sey If yu gonna be a waggonist cum correct nuh boss.....
warmonga..
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Jahyouth on November 09, 2005, 11:12:20 AM
well done Stern.  Time to deliver in the biggest games of your life now
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: morvant on November 09, 2005, 11:18:18 AM
like allyuh aint know iz stern we talking about here

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Grande on November 09, 2005, 11:52:55 AM
Stern go make Steve Bruce regret letting him leave Birmingham City
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Cowen on November 09, 2005, 12:06:41 PM
Well done Stern.

Bahrain dead
 :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Pointman on November 09, 2005, 12:58:12 PM
i CYAH TAKE IT, Saturday cannot get here fast enough, I CAN ALMOST TASTE THAT WIN

Boy!! ah cyar even sleep dese las few days here. Ah ready like Freddy!!!
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: LICKS4SO on November 09, 2005, 05:17:23 PM
Pointman....to be sure I eh miss the game, I take off friday too!
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: goodfootball171267 on November 09, 2005, 05:34:41 PM
Boy ... ah hope all yuh still support the man after he throw away more sitters ... class is class and form is temporary ... ah hope he in form on sat and wed.  In my humble opinion he is not up to world class striker category yet ... i ent care what the stats say ... there are lies, more lies and statistics.
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: kurt traboulay on November 09, 2005, 05:59:51 PM
i think after reading this interview STERN go put tears in the whole a bahrain on saturday
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: SHOTTA on November 09, 2005, 07:12:04 PM
big up 2 stern this man is d greatest footballer dat ever lived no offence to odder people

but stern ur goals hav brought us this far and will carry us further
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: lp on November 10, 2005, 02:53:42 PM
Beautiful interview.... the man has spoken like a general.
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: Carib-Briton on November 10, 2005, 04:39:56 PM
Stern is the man.Big Up to Him. 2 Goals in each Leg
Title: Re: Stern John - Warrior with the golden boot.
Post by: !aCkuT on November 10, 2005, 04:55:05 PM
Stern Is D BES he go score bout 3 an make we proud... BIG UP!!!
Title: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 10:54:47 AM
where all the Stern John for goals committee men

I find all yuh quiet this rounds

all the men who feel Stern John cyah do no wrong and quick to quote stats


I never see a man who does play with no urgency so. All the man fit to do is stand up and lay off the ball. I sware if Stern have a hot shit he go shit he self. The man doh have no sort of hussle in him at all.
I was more than surprised when he score that last goal against Mexico I thought he changed he ways but I was wrong.

If yuh eh put the ball on he foot infront the goal forget it.
And of course the midfield was closed down quickly so no goals for Stern.


Presidet for the Stern on the bench committee.
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: kicker on November 14, 2005, 11:07:23 AM
I hear the frustrations about Stern........but in all seriousness, he is our prime marksman. plain and simple.........
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: morvant on November 14, 2005, 11:14:43 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

disgruntled boy

oh ye of little faith

have faith my friend stern will not dissapoint

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Hyperhot J on November 14, 2005, 11:17:17 AM
   I eh have time to get meh blood pressure high from Stern at this moment, some things for SURE though: Yorke MUST START up front with Stern or Jones, (hopefully if Jones come on it is SOONER meh boy always getting a flicking corbeaux sweat but still created a chance when he came on, he is pure class). If Stern still eh working sub him with Jones one time, or even start Jones, and put on John later or something. My reasoning is that because Jones did not play as much for T&T this year, he is known less, even the same with Glenn, We all know that Jones real hot on it, and even Glenn if he gets to run at the ball, but Bahrain does not know that as much, hence Jones was able to turn his marker and get more room than John when he came on. I was a little worried about Avery though, whey he gave me constant heart attacks especially in the first half when we got most of our throws on the left flank and Avery almost always got confused and gave it away. Hopefully he will have a better game.

I still think that Birchall had an excellent game despite what he, himself said. I also think that Yorke played better up front in the second half than back in the first. Whitley was unlucky to not get any shots on goal but I know in the first half especially he was sizing up some.

All in all is all about attack attack and MORE attack!! Dog and Lawrence defended reasonably well and Spann and Carlos need to make the switch more often, but once our team is not jet lagged and does not concede any early goal, I think we CAN WIN, it is all about attack. Remember in the Guatemala game how we played in the 2nd half and scored 3 goals, we must play like that, change formation to 4-4-2 now with Yorke up and ATTACK at full force!!

Jason.

I love you Warriors!!  ;D

We not giving up!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 11:20:04 AM
according to ah famous man right now
Stern John cyah score in ah hoe house with ah pocket full ah money and he gyal next to him

right now in the 11th hour we eh need to post up man up front we need men who running at them tall shitrain defenders
Scotland and Jones come on and run at en and that is what we need

all Stern doing is posting up and laying off the ball
the man like he cyah self make ah run off the ball


PRESIDENT FOR THE STERN JOHN ON THE BENCH COMMITTE

Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: g on November 14, 2005, 11:22:48 AM
I can't believe dis talk start back again. Common guys we've been through this before. Keep your heads up. Everything will be kool.
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: KND2 on November 14, 2005, 11:27:11 AM
Stern is Trying to hustle but you have to remember he alone up front he cannot chase from side to side That will be too much running.

Stern doing good hold tight

we need him to save enery for the offense part.

Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 11:36:21 AM
Stern is Trying to hustle but you have to remember he alone up front he cannot chase from side to side That will be too much running.

Stern doing good hold tight

we need him to save enery for the offense part.



trying to hustle
when you see the man hustle horse?
boy he is ah tourist to hustle


horse when yuh playing at this level yuh suppose to play every game like is the last
not save energy

if yuh eh shoot yuh eh go score dread and getting the ball and laying it off is not going to score
he need to run at men and move with ah sense of urgency

but I know all yuh
I go post some shit from www.rsssf.com and make the man look like ah genius
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: freakazoid on November 14, 2005, 11:52:58 AM
honestly i am a jones fan . but allyuh take allyuh time with stern plz ah was calling 4 him to get bench b4 the mexico game but since ah putting me faith in him .if by 60 mins he ent doing anything bring on d hungry youth
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Socaman on November 14, 2005, 12:10:57 PM
Alyuh de man go rise to de occasion on Wednesday!!! Stay positive fellas. We Not Giving Up!!!!!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Teflon Don on November 14, 2005, 12:19:37 PM
lets stick with what we have been doing dont change ne thing .... but i do agree that kenwyne jones should get more playing time... he is a very confident stiker and he is not afraid to take on defenders and as someone said earlier the bahrain team and coaching staff knows  little to nothing about jones so we should try him around the 70th min or so if nothing goin for us up front
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: kounty on November 14, 2005, 12:38:55 PM
I done say these words already, and I go say them again - however far Tand T go, is because Stern John take we there.  easiest prediction in the world - 2goals by stern john come wednesday.
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: prodigy23 on November 14, 2005, 01:02:21 PM
y is it that everytime stern doesnt score a goal in a game, people here callin 4 his head????????????? its really annoying and frustrating that everytme come to this site people talk d same shit over and over again. Everyoine knows d man starting, everbody know how d man does play d same way wheather he score or not`, so please give it a f***in rest. D whole team had a bad game and that is that

GO WARRIORS
Title: Stern John go wake uo
Post by: Trini2dabone on November 14, 2005, 01:03:39 PM
Panama 1-0 he score
Guatemala 3-2 he score 2 to win it
Mexico - he score 2 to win it

When Stern bad he bad when he good he good, alll dem games when we needed a win he was der for we so I think he go take a bush bath and wake himself up and give we at least 1 goal
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: pass(10trini) on November 14, 2005, 01:28:30 PM
De man go be dey when it matters most .

Disgruntled you is ah ungrateful bastard . De man bring we dis this far an that is all you have to say . Cowen and alyuh gihde man ah clout fuh meh nah .
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Brej on November 14, 2005, 01:29:28 PM
honestly i am a jones fan . but allyuh take allyuh time with stern plz ah was calling 4 him to get bench b4 the mexico game but since ah putting me faith in him .if by 60 mins he ent doing anything bring on d hungry youth
das why if u was coaching against guatemala we would have lost ;)
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: andre samuel on November 14, 2005, 01:55:32 PM
De man go be dey when it matters most .

Disgruntled you is ah ungrateful bastard . De man bring we dis this far an that is all you have to say . Cowen and alyuh gihde man ah clout fuh meh nah .

i echo those sentiments.  the man talking about stern as if he never score ah goal in he life.  This is de man who scored winners in 3 of the last 4 games before this one!! (guatemala, panama and mexico).

Disgruntled Trini, u is ah f*cking arsehole!  Men like u should get ban from football. 

U are a real heavy spirit and ah f*cking jumbie!  U pull down rather than elevate, and i am sorry for u in this life.  anyways, God bless!

ah ent love dat!!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on November 14, 2005, 02:28:51 PM
Listen I backin Stern and he go come thru but I have to say that I know we playing with Stern up front by heself but that though mean that when we going down the flank with Edwards and he putting in crosses that Stern have to be by heself other people could join him up they by the time the crosses comin too yuh know.  The more people that is in the box when the crosses come in the better chance of somebody getting on the end of it.
Title: Re: Stern John go wake uo
Post by: TriniItalian on November 14, 2005, 02:56:46 PM
Why we even worring bout Stern? if he does shit jones go come on but Stern is a natural finisher he will score or at least keep me on him for someone else to score
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 03:12:18 PM
boy all yuh could make excuses for this man boy
doh worry he go put tears in all yuh eye

beware of blind patriotism Andre and that is what you have
but yuh go learn

it have real men here who does echo the same setiments but they fraid to speak up but not me

the man is ah ranking shitsnake
all yuh could sink in that Stern John boat not me
MAN OVERBOARD
MAN OVERf**kINGBOARD
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 03:18:58 PM
boy all yuh could make excuses for this man boy
doh worry he go put tears in all yuh eye

beware of blind patriotism Andre and that is what you have
but yuh go learn

it have real men here who does echo the same setiments but they fraid to speak up but not me

the man is ah ranking shitsnake
all yuh could sink in that Stern John boat not me
MAN OVERBOARD
MAN OVERf**kINGBOARD

Mih boy... I dont think men here have any kinda BLIND patriotism. Iz just that NOW is not the time for Any kinda ANTI stern Comments..

Fact is he has a very good International record, He Scored WINNERS for us on many occasions, etc etc..

AFTER the IMPORTANT match, we can bash who we want up till 2 months before World CUP..  But ress this talk till after. 

WE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. STERN is integral to de team.. BASHING STERN now is like BASHING the ENtire team.. That will not Do right about now .. So AFTER we WIN on Wednesday, we can resume our VERY critical analysis of Players....

Yuh Unders ?
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Teflon Don on November 14, 2005, 03:23:06 PM
I agree allyuh hadda support right now plz plz mr disgruntled trini doh let ur true trini behaviour come out now nah lets back the team and then after that u could start to do ur in today out tomorrow kinda thing...yes ur entitled to ur opinion but right now we really tryin to keep a positive vibe on the board spread good vibes ok
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Cowen on November 14, 2005, 03:28:20 PM
I am not the biggest supporter of Stern.... however that ain't the kinda vibes i want to be getting from nobody. The man has proven that he can score goals by his record and what he did the last few games for us.

Simply bahrain came out with a plan to shot down Stern, latas and Yorke. It work. Beenie pick up on that and make the necessary subs .....but that shit not gonna happen again. Stern will come out shooting with both guns.

Allyuh men starting to sound like Waggonist ..ready to jump off the ship. Is only rat does jump off ship first.
 :beermug:

Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 03:34:41 PM
I am not the biggest supporter of Stern.... however that ain't the kinda vibes i want to be getting from nobody. The man has proven that he can score goals by his record and what he did the last few games for us.

Simply bahrain came out with a plan to shot down Stern, latas and Yorke. It work. Beenie pick up on that and make the necessary subs .....but that shit not gonna happen again. Stern will come out shooting with both guns.

Allyuh men starting to sound like Waggonist ..ready to jump off the ship. Is only rat does jump off ship first.
 :beermug:



horse I never like Stern
not now is long time
I eh no waggonist when it come to that

I is ah man does give jack he jacket and jim his boots
when he score the second one against Mexico I say well yes
first time he impress meh I say he change he notorious ways but I see he revert to them on Sat
all yuh might find ah overly harsh eh but from Thursday to now I give meh all to the warriors and in return them could ah give me they all and they didnt especially Stern horse the man playing lazy like is ah friendly he playing

I f**king bitter dread
I looking fierce on the outside but inside I crying like a lil hen

THE TIME IS NOW WARRIORS
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 03:38:28 PM
I am not the biggest supporter of Stern.... however that ain't the kinda vibes i want to be getting from nobody. The man has proven that he can score goals by his record and what he did the last few games for us.

Simply bahrain came out with a plan to shot down Stern, latas and Yorke. It work. Beenie pick up on that and make the necessary subs .....but that shit not gonna happen again. Stern will come out shooting with both guns.

Allyuh men starting to sound like Waggonist ..ready to jump off the ship. Is only rat does jump off ship first.
 :beermug:



horse I never like Stern
not now is long time
I eh no waggonist when it come to that

I is ah man does give jack he jacket and jim his boots
when he score the second one against Mexico I say well yes
first time he impress meh I say he change he notorious ways but I see he revert to them on Sat
all yuh might find ah overly harsh eh but from Thursday to now I give meh all to the warriors and in return them could ah give me they all and they didnt especially Stern horse the man playing lazy like is ah friendly he playing

I f**king bitter dread
I looking fierce on the outside but inside I crying like a lil hen

THE TIME IS NOW WARRIORS

Please man.. You are a good brother and i would hate to cuss you out... Be resolved in your FAITH IN THE TEAM.. No bashing of ANY players right now.. Keep that shit inside.. Please... Ah asking Nicely. !
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: saga pinto on November 14, 2005, 03:59:35 PM
I say live and die with stern,he does frustrate meh sometimes but so do many other international strikers all over the world when playing for there respective countries,he's not singular in that respect.Listen you have to take the good with the bad,and hope he has a better game on wednesday or maybe another player shows up and make history,with that said win or lose on wednesday I'm proud to be trini and proud of the warriors this has not been easy for them.

                                              God Bless the Warriors and Trinidad & Tobago.
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on November 14, 2005, 04:03:06 PM
I eh no big stern supporter but de man starting and has done wah is needed nuff times..Therefore i cant call for head now..I doh see de sense in it..De man is a soca warrior and dat is de side i supporting..whoever on de pitch i backing all de way
Go TnT
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 04:04:59 PM

Please man.. You are a good brother and i would hate to cuss you out... Be resolved in your FAITH IN THE TEAM.. No bashing of ANY players right now.. Keep that shit inside.. Please... Ah asking Nicely. !


boy throw yuh cuss on meh yes, I standing meh ground on this one boy even if I alone
back meh corner and shoot from left to right
I is ah man strong in meh resolve
I have nothing but love for the warriors but oh God man Stern
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Pointman on November 14, 2005, 04:06:33 PM
Stern needs some help against this defensive minded team. One striker may not be the best formation to go up against Bahrain with,plus they have some tall men in the back.
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 04:09:08 PM

Please man.. You are a good brother and i would hate to cuss you out... Be resolved in your FAITH IN THE TEAM.. No bashing of ANY players right now.. Keep that shit inside.. Please... Ah asking Nicely. !


boy throw yuh cuss on meh yes, I standing meh ground on this one boy even if I alone
back meh corner and shoot from left to right
I is ah man strong in meh resolve
I have nothing but love for the warriors but oh God man Stern

I know I know I know.. Lots of people Love to hate Stern.. But show de man some affection now nah.. Show de man some love.. Send an E hug..  De man Need US.. The TEAm needs US..  Stern is in the Team... EVERYONE... Send the TEAm an E HUG... common... (I know how it sound) .. But leh we really send all our love for the guys right now ..

HUG the TEAM every one.. COMMON.. You KNOW YOU WANNA.. Common .  HUUUG...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: supporter on November 14, 2005, 04:20:13 PM
did stern even play yesterday? i didnt notice him!!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Warlord on November 14, 2005, 04:28:41 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 04:29:55 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

warmonga, yuh dere.. Tanslate dat fuh me nah...
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 04:30:33 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 04:32:33 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw


Oh gawm.. Jess give de man ah lion paw or what ever and ah hug too nah ... oh f*k man... low de man till after wednesday nah .. i Not to crazy bout stern either.. but shit, low him till after de game.. de man will come up big fuh we... Breds... I guh buy yuh ah two beers.. jess leave de man nuh..
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: real madness on November 14, 2005, 04:34:24 PM
I was a big critic of Stern in this Hex but he has scored some crucial goals recently and even leo say Stern is de best option...so who is me to argue with leo..if BSc said that then I would argue... ;D
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Teflon Don on November 14, 2005, 04:36:45 PM
i will never turn my back on stern john.. NEVER....like allyuh forgetting when certain ppl turn dey back on the country is stern john who score all dem goals for us... goal cup, shell cup,world cup qualifiers,friendly intls... i am a  stern john supporter for life i might be new to the board but im def not a waggonist..... any true supporter of tnt football go tell u stern john is not a shit hound ask ne body from the mls..... as a matter of fact ask ne body from birmingham city who bring dem back to the prmier league... the man is having an inconsitent yr but he still comes thru when it matters.
at the end of the day what ever happens stern meh boy i will always support yuh.
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Warlord on November 14, 2005, 04:37:32 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

warmonga, yuh dere.. Tanslate dat fuh me nah...

a nuh warmonga this. Mi name Warlord and mi a di facetiest badbwoy deh bout di place. Big up who fi get big and small up who fi get small up!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 04:38:51 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

warmonga, yuh dere.. Tanslate dat fuh me nah...

a nuh warmonga this. Mi name Warlord and mi a di facetiest badbwoy deh bout di place. Big up who fi get big and small up who fi get small up!

Yea I know its not Warmonga.. i was jess asking him to translate.. No scene.. Look ah carib.  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Warlord on November 14, 2005, 04:40:58 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw


Look how unnuh ungrateful eeee. When Stern John did a score gainst Guatemala, Panama and Mexico....yu nah cuss di man. But now him nuh score inna Trinidad yu wah lick out gainst him. Look like you a waggonist........gallang go support Bahrain then >:(
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: oconnorg on November 14, 2005, 04:43:28 PM
Stern John a di big man, and come wednesday him wi score fi Trinidad. Nuh badda dis di man starr. All who sey Lionpaw fi stern John mek mi hear unnuh :)

lionpaw
steups
yuh mean pussycat paw


Look how unnuh ungrateful eeee. When Stern John did a score gainst Guatemala, Panama and Mexico....yu nah cuss di man. But now him nuh score inna Trinidad yu wah lick out gainst him. Look like you a waggonist........gallang go support Bahrain then >:(

YEA!!!  >:( What he jess said.!!!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: grskywalker on November 14, 2005, 04:47:04 PM
Stern needs some help against this defensive minded team. One striker may not be the best formation to go up against Bahrain with,plus they have some tall men in the back.

TRUE DAT, WE NEED TO STICK TO 2 STRIKERS UP FRONT
We have nothing to loose and no need to hold back cards doh matter again either jones and stern or glenn and stern.

GOALS GOALS GOALS IS WAT WE NEED
3 POINTS clear nothing less, forget aggregrate and penalties
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: fishs on November 14, 2005, 04:59:55 PM
I knew this would have been a difficult game for Stern, simply because of the ultra defensive nature of the Bahraini game.
In a previous post I had KJ starting up front with Stern, put a serious wildcard in the mix from early and the Bahrain side would fall to pieces.
Who to drop for KJ ?
Either Autis or Carlos might be the obvious choice, difficult decision to make for the coach.
Next match, rest Latas , bring in KJ, 60 mins if we eh score two by then bring on Latas to work his magic (last throw of the dice).
Some men going to say start without Stern, but we need to create confusion in the bahraini defense from early, Stern they will try to triple mark as they did , but boom KJ running at them with speed ?
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: SHOTTA on November 14, 2005, 05:05:44 PM
come on disgruntled i aint look for yuh dey

all d talk bout anti stern suppose to be jazz

i hav all faith in our striker delivering

it was said ear;ier in the campaign that if we reaching to germany it go be on the goals of stern john i believe dat still

GO WARRIORSSSSSSS

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 14, 2005, 05:14:19 PM
come on disgruntled i aint look for yuh dey

all d talk bout anti stern suppose to be jazz

i hav all faith in our striker delivering

it was said ear;ier in the campaign that if we reaching to germany it go be on the goals of stern john i believe dat still

GO WARRIORSSSSSSS

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE


no boy horse
the man does get meh irate
I know all yuh rate the man cause he pull we out time and time again  cyah deny that but the man need to do more than jes stand and wait for the ball in the box

the man like Inzaghi inside the box very dangerous outside does and contributes nothing dread
difference is Inzaghi have ah dread midfield to supply him we don't
this is why I see Jones should be there with him or starting infront of him

the man does make meh feel to drink 
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: FATZ on November 14, 2005, 05:46:13 PM
WHO SAY STERN WITH A BRACE!!!! I remember Stern since Curepe Junior sec then Eldo and he pull both teams out of trouble many times. I sweat with Stern, defend against him and have respect for him because he could score and as i said first, STERN WITH A BRACE ON Wednesday to sink Bahrain boat.

GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!! GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!!
GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!! GO WARRIORS!!! GO WARRIORS!!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: SUPA on November 14, 2005, 05:52:28 PM
We all know is Stern goals brought us dis far. Disgruntled, I honestly know d pain u feeling inside, I have not been productive since Saturday, because I'm feeling it just like u. We jus have tuh  hold d faith an be positive for Wednesday.Like some of d other breddas dem say, now is not d time to bash any of d players, they need our love an support at dis time. RESPECT!
Title: Re: Stern John go sh_t he self
Post by: andre samuel on November 15, 2005, 06:51:13 AM

no boy horse
the man does get meh irate
I know all yuh rate the man cause he pull we out time and time again  cyah deny that but the man need to do more than jes stand and wait for the ball in the box

the man like Inzaghi inside the box very dangerous outside does and contributes nothing dread
difference is Inzaghi have ah dread midfield to supply him we don't
this is why I see Jones should be there with him or starting infront of him

the man does make meh feel to drink 


Horse, in understand that u feeling the anger against stern, but lets support him please.

I am one of the biggest stern lovers (ever since ah get ah stern john #14 birminham city jersey, lol), and in spite of that i went on national TV on ah talk show and say he should get sub.  He went and score de winner against panama and de dounble against mexico immediately after dat.

so i know he gets u angry, cause he has done that to me many times, but lets not forget the joy that he has brought to u!!!

ah love it!!

Title: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: precious on January 19, 2006, 12:11:32 PM
TAKE A LOOK AT STERNS NEW WEBSITE

www.sternjohn.com  :applause:
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: oconnorg on January 19, 2006, 12:16:43 PM
Interesting.. Shaun Fuentes Manages the site... Thats what i am seeing to the bottom.... Hmmm Interesting...
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: morvant on January 19, 2006, 12:17:52 PM
and he put this site as one ah he links
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: Mr Mc on January 19, 2006, 12:20:36 PM
he link socawarriors.net
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: oconnorg on January 19, 2006, 12:23:41 PM
Yea.. Ah wonder if he Meet Disgruntled Trini in real wha guh happen...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on January 19, 2006, 12:36:55 PM
I hear dat disgruntled is de Honorary webmaster ;D


the ironic thing is I use to be a webmaster and still am a graphic artist

they should ah hire me to do the site

is only pics of him walking off chupsing and missing the goal from point blank range

some nice streaming vids of him blasting the ball high and wide
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: MickeyRat on January 19, 2006, 12:38:52 PM
Yea.. Ah wonder if he Meet Disgruntled Trini in real wha guh happen... ;D ;D ;D


 :rotfl:
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: trinbago on January 19, 2006, 12:47:35 PM
Old new. that website up along time !!
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: andre samuel on January 19, 2006, 01:21:27 PM
that site up since stern had joined birmingham
Title: Re: STERN JOHNS NEW LOOK WEBSITE
Post by: oconnorg on January 19, 2006, 01:59:21 PM
that site up since stern had joined birmingham

It en change up a lil bit.. Looks kinda diff to me.
Title: Fagan puts (Stern John) friendship aside
Post by: E-man on January 31, 2006, 03:17:06 PM
Fagan puts friendship aside (http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0300coventrycity/0100news/tm_objectid=16648659&method=full&siteid=50003&headline=fagan-puts-friendship-aside-name_page.html)
By Andy Turner [/color] [/size]
 
(Jan 31 2006) CRAIG FAGAN has promised there will be no old pals' act against Stern John at the KC Stadium tonight... even though it could cost the Hull City star a free holiday in the Caribbean.

Fagan and John are friends after linking up together at Birmingham City earlier in their careers.

John comes from Trinidad and Tobago and had promised Fagan a free trip to the Caribbean this summer but the holiday is in doubt because John will be representing the Soca Warriors in the World Cup in Germany.

But Fagan knows he will definitely have to get out the holiday brochures and his wallet if he helps The Tigers sink John and his Coventry team-mates.

"Stern is one of my best mates in football," said the forward.

"We've always got on well. He played against us at the KC earlier this season when he was on loan at Derby. He didn't get on the scoresheet and we won 2-1

"I know he's looking forward to the game tonight. This time, he says he's going to score and Coventry are going to win. I just hope he's wrong!

"It might cost me the holiday but with the World Cup, I'm not so sure we'd have gone anyway."

He added: "He's been on the phone giving me a bit of grief but I gave him some back!

"Seriously, he's a quality player and there are a lot of them about in this division."

Fagan is confident Hull have turned the corner after that emphatic 3-0 victory against Stoke City and has called on his team-mates to show the same positive attitude that helped them end a four-match losing run.

"The big difference at Stoke was how we set off and from the first whistle," said the eight-goal forward.

"From the kick off, Stu Elliott raced across to close someone down on the opposite side of the pitch, got a tackle in and that set us on our way.

"We've got to do that tonight. If we can win that first tackle and win that first header we'll get the crowd with us."

Fagan could switch to the right wing with recent buys Jon Parkin from Macclesfield and Darryl Duffy from Falkirk forming a new-look strike pairing with three goals between them in just two games.

Ideally, Fagan would prefer a central role but is full of praise for Parkin and Duffy and is happy to play anywhere as long as City are winning.

"They are pushing for a start and that might mean me playing on the wing. The lads are saying I'm the new Jason Price! I prefer striker but if I'm on the wing I'll get on with it and do my best for the team."
Title: Re: Fagan puts (Stern John) friendship aside
Post by: Carib-Briton on January 31, 2006, 03:19:10 PM
1-1 so far! Niether as scored.
Title: Re: Fagan puts (Stern John) friendship aside
Post by: arrow on January 31, 2006, 03:43:01 PM
"I know he's looking forward to the game tonight. This time, he says he's going to score and Coventry are going to win. I just hope he's wrong!
"It might cost me the holiday but with the World Cup, I'm not so sure we'd have gone anyway."

looks like he may get his holiday after all!  Stern on de board 2-1
Title: Re: Fagan puts (Stern John) friendship aside
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 31, 2006, 07:05:15 PM
stern call it down oui lol

This time, he says he's going to score and Coventry are going to win


well dun stern boi
Title: Re: Fagan puts (Stern John) friendship aside
Post by: TrinInfinite on January 31, 2006, 07:08:37 PM
stern provin me wrong, i like dat, he need tuh keep playin well, bc he job could b in jeopardy with colin de giant samuels playin well
Title: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: Tallman on February 16, 2006, 08:23:40 AM
John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday.
By Duncan White (The Telegraph).


You have to hope that John Terry and Rio Ferdinand offer more of a challenge to Stern John at the World Cup this summer. The Trinidad and Tobago striker made light work of Wednesday's flaky rearguard to score the goal that set Coventry on their way to victory and leave the visitors looking over their shoulder at the bottom three.
Chris Brunt's thunderous free-kick gave some late hope to Wednesday, after Gary McSheffrey had extended the lead, but Paul Sturrock's side are built on flimsy foundations.
Wednesday's Drissa Diallo epitomized their early ineptitude, seemingly unable to put a foot right. His worst offence was a clear trip on Dele Adebola in the box, only to be spared by Rob Styles.
Wednesday's Lee Bullen did miss a sitter before moving from midfield to defence to cover for the departed Diallo, but Coventry were carrying the threat.
Dennis Wise's shot was palmed onto the bar by Chris Adamson and John twice went close from the edge of the box. The Trinidadian found the net just before the break, squirming the ball in from Wise's cross. Wednesday improved after the break, but Coventry kept sniffing around on the counter.
With 15 minutes left, McSheffrey scampered onto a Wise free-kick to dink the ball past Adamson. The Wednesday defence barely moved.

Match details

Coventry City (4-4-2):
Fulop; Heath, Williams, Page, Whing; Morrell (Jorgensen 75), Wise, Doyle, McSheffrey; Adebola, John (Hutchison 85).

Subs: Ince (g), Thornton, Lynch.

Booked: Page, Wise.

Sheffield Wednesday (4-4-2): Adamson; Simek, Coughlan, Diallo (Brunt 39), Gilbert; Bullen, Whelan, Folly (Partridge 74), O'Brien; Corr (Best 55), MacLean.

Subs: Kirby (g), Tudgay.

Booked: Whelan.

Referee: R Styles (Hampshire).
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: grskywalker on February 16, 2006, 09:23:05 AM
Excellent Stern this is going to be your year!!!! :applause: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: SHOTTA on February 16, 2006, 09:29:45 AM
big up to stern

i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: oconnorg on February 16, 2006, 11:28:18 AM
big up to stern

i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

MR President, where were you all de time when stern was faltering ?.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

I think Snap ellections are in order.. Troy Piloy will run again, this time we will ensure victory..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: trinbago on February 16, 2006, 11:37:50 AM
I will run for VP
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: Brej on February 16, 2006, 12:48:01 PM
de man on fire wa more yuh could say
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: Cowen on February 16, 2006, 01:41:00 PM
big up to stern

i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

MR President, where were you all de time when stern was faltering ?.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

I think Snap ellections are in order.. Troy Piloy will run again, this time we will ensure victory..  ;D ;D


this smelling suspiciously like waggonist behaviour. Definitely need some fresh elections ....... we lost confidence in the President.

I say we pass a vote of no cconfidence.  :devil:
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: andre samuel on February 16, 2006, 01:47:52 PM
well done stern....all i can say is..............ah love it!!
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 16, 2006, 01:50:11 PM
well dun stern



andre chek yuh PM
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: elan on February 16, 2006, 01:51:18 PM
That's some really good news that Stern can scrap with these guys and finish.
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: Warrior till death on February 16, 2006, 01:52:29 PM
Stern John cAP 8TH SPOT WITH THE VOLLEY ON THE FA CUP GOALS OF WEEK
 :beermug:
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: Jefferz on February 16, 2006, 02:43:15 PM
big up to stern

i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE


troy should be vp while shotta stays president.


I do need no top official spot to support stern!


altho i wouldnt mind.


ah votin shotta fuh da.



AAYEEEEEEEIIIII!!! STERN GEHIN LEVEL BIG UP!
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: freakazoid on February 16, 2006, 05:28:28 PM
stern john just confirmed a well known fact for me. What? Belief in yourself is better than gold. Lets rewind to the Panama home game every insult that was capable of being uttered was uttered at stern. when he scored that goal against itt was obvious that the insults were hitting their mark. how many footballers playing for the home side runs to the home fans after scoring a goal with his finger placed on his lips a gesture that says shut u mouth. it was his way of telling his critics to hush and at that time he had many. Back  in england your club loans you out. the club you have gone to hates u eventually and u get booed fairly often.
fast forwward to his goal spree 4 both country and club now everyone has something good to say bout stern.
He has come full circle back to his scoring exploits if tommorow he hits a scoring rut that wouldnt deter him cause he believes in himself.
he would like the lil tug boat keep saying to himself i know I can. that is something we musteach try to  emulate
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: rippin on February 16, 2006, 09:55:08 PM
If he hit that rot we go bad talk him again and he will get vex and start to fightout of it again. When men was bad talking the man I think it was justified. He was called half slab because he was over weight. I think the qualifiers give stern the zeal to play football. The man come back in form under Beenie. If it wasn't for Beenie confidence in him he woulda still be messing on he self. As freakazoid say the man does play well when he confident or somebody show confidence in him.

Big up to Stern though.
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: truetrini on February 16, 2006, 10:23:33 PM
dat is why he get call half slab?
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: SHOTTA on February 17, 2006, 12:28:23 AM
big up to stern

i welcomin loss sheep back into d fold

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

MR President, where were you all de time when stern was faltering ?.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

I think Snap ellections are in order.. Troy Piloy will run again, this time we will ensure victory.. ;D ;D


my dear comrades i was always here representing stern even wen i had an unfortunate incident wit my muda board morvant man wud call an keep me up to date wit sterns activities

i wont run from another election but i would like a rival dat is at least visible on d board
Title: stern john
Post by: triniairman on February 17, 2006, 06:12:51 PM
i just saw that stern is number 8 in the top 10 goals so far in the FA cup stern on the scene again big up to him
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: skins on February 17, 2006, 06:17:00 PM
Which goal that was. The goal he score against Middlesborough
Title: Re: John provides too stern a test for flimsy Wednesday
Post by: triniairman on February 17, 2006, 06:37:24 PM
the volly against boro
Title: Stern John's stance
Post by: Trini _2022 on March 08, 2006, 09:13:06 AM
Stern John's stance - worth a repost!
BY MosiahX, from reggaeboyz sc


Stern John was on FSC today complaining

The gist of his gripe was that leading up to and during World Cup
qualifiers, the team made efforts to recruit several players out
of England and they flatly turned down the invitation. He himself
approached several players but was also turned down. But now
that the team has qualified for the World Cup the same players
who refused to come aboard during the struggle, are now lining
up to joining the team
. John is upset by this and states flatly that
he is not in agreement with these bandwaggoners. He did not
call any names but he said he has seen it happen before in the
Caribbean; an obvious reference to Jamaica and some UB40s.

Can't blame Stern John at all. These kind of things tend to disrupt
team unity and chemistry. Infusing other players at this juncture,
at the expense of those who played their hearts out to qualify
the team can have negative effects. I recall this happening with
both Jamaica and the USA in the 1998 World Cup.

For Jamaica players such as Dean Sewell, Paul Young, Hector
Wright, Tegat Davis, Altimont Butler, Daniel Ricketts, Winston
Griffiths, Steve Green, Pele Wilson, Patrick Beech, Fabian Favis
et al played their parts during qualifications but were ignored
when time came to select the final squad for France. The choice
was to select UB40s in their place.

For The USA John Harkes and others who played stellar roles
during qualifications were dropped for David Regis and some
others who could not even speak English. Needless to say,
neither Jamaica nor the USA did good at France98 as infighting
and lack of team chemistry did them in.

If the Trinidad and Tobago selectors allow the same to happen,
it will be a quick and unceremonious exit for the SocaWarriors
as at least one player, Stern John, has made his displeasure
known. Funny thing is, when Walter Boyd also voiced his
similar opinion during the latter stages of the 98 qualifications
he was lambasted, ostracized, made to grovel and was nearly
left out of the final squad. Will the same happen to Stern John?
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Socapro on March 08, 2006, 09:19:56 AM
If the Trinidad and Tobago selectors allow the same to happen,
it will be a quick and unceremonious exit for the SocaWarriors
as at least one player, Stern John, has made his displeasure
known. Funny thing is, when Walter Boyd also voiced his
similar opinion during the latter stages of the 98 qualifications
he was lambasted, ostracized, made to grovel and was nearly
left out of the final squad. Will the same happen to Stern John?

I just hope Beenieman makes a note of this as team chemistry is just as important as the quality of the players if not more so!

Hold tight Stern you made a good point, now just start scoring & not missing easy chances when yuh in ah T&T shirt & Beenie will have to pick you & we'll be backing you 100%!  Tell the wagonists them to whole tight & help us in our next campaign for 2010! 8)
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: kingman on March 08, 2006, 09:30:07 AM
Stern, i supporting your views. I think you have some valid points. I guess it will be a collective decision though since Beenie and the TTFF have the final say. We wil see how it goes.

Kingman
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Tongue on March 08, 2006, 09:38:42 AM
I am sure Stern is not the only player with these views. ;)
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Trini _2022 on March 08, 2006, 09:39:27 AM
We could watch it from another angle stern  might be scared of the competiton ;D
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: MickeyRat on March 08, 2006, 09:42:51 AM
I agree with Stern 100%.  Team chemistry is key.  When the team was fighting to stay alive them fools say no, now that we on the run-way they want a place...Hell NO.  It eh right.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: oconnorg on March 08, 2006, 09:43:49 AM
We could watch it from another angle stern might be scared of the competiton ;D

He should be..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: saintsman on March 08, 2006, 09:44:31 AM
like your views stern, but beenie has always been committed to team chemistry, but you have to admit TNT has some weak points and nothing wrong with looking at players  that might fix that, again trust in beenie. Has done well so far, without trust in him TNT in problems as a whole.
BIG UP TNT
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 08, 2006, 09:44:36 AM
Yeah Stern.  If man blank yuh when you made your overtures, but now they running behnd the van, let them smell the exhumes.  If a man is to come on board, let him bring true value to the team, or leave the team as is.  I said before that if Zamora were to play I would support the team, but would always label him as a wagonist, cause he publicly came out and said that the was not interested in the cause.  As if he going and play for England.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: R45 on March 08, 2006, 09:47:33 AM
Beenhakker is renowned for his communication skills with his players, so I would think he would be the last coach to ditch the true warriors for the born again trinis. He's already mentioned that he has no intention of dramatically changing the squad and he will make sure to recognise the players that got us there.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: che on March 08, 2006, 09:47:46 AM
I agree with this post. Waggonest will only weaken the warriors. Maybe not so much now but long term.
For example If Warner get picked in front of Emps, after the World Cup will he still want to play for us?
Next Gold Cup Warner will say he have club commitments. And Emps who has given his all to the team over the years will not want to play anymore because he got over looked for the biggest event of his life. Of course this is just an e.g. but it could happen.  A lot of the younger players who are trying to make it on a future  T&T team will be discouraged. Why give it my all if when World Cup time comes I lose my spot to a waggonest who has never been to T&T before.  
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: R45 on March 08, 2006, 09:50:16 AM
I might be wrong, but I read in an article that Warner was interested in playing for the warriors well before we qualified, but he wasn't given the chance.

I was more thinking fellas like Zamora who were specifically asked and turned us down before.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Tallman on March 08, 2006, 09:51:54 AM
I might be wrong, but I read in an article that Warner was interested in playing for the warriors well before we qualified, but he wasn't given the chance.

Warner was interested since 1999.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: TrinInfinite on March 08, 2006, 09:56:59 AM
locals all the way, john know wat he is sayin, but it have man who turn down tt and are on de team now, so its subjective, i think locals has always been the answer :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: saga pinto on March 08, 2006, 09:57:40 AM
His point has been validated by many examples since our qualification,my only concern is, his words may be overshadowed by him becoming consistently inconsistent as it pertains to scoring goals in our friendlies, to be fair to him it's a bit premature at this point. we have at least four more games to be played before the big dance he must silence the critics by scoring goals otherwise they have no choice but to pick these guys.  
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 08, 2006, 10:09:13 AM
stern doe hadda be frighten of no competition cuz he is d boss
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: samo on March 08, 2006, 10:14:50 AM
Why should they be on the team??? Men like Zamora only trying to capitialize on how success. I agree 10000% with Stern...
My only fear is if we by chance do not do well, people will be saying... Yuh see we shoula bring in Zamora or Samuel etc.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: SHOTTA on March 08, 2006, 10:30:09 AM
big up to man like stern jojhn cuz withou him we wudna be no place

fire for those now comes an waggonist we dont want allyuh around we team

go warriors
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Trini _2022 on March 08, 2006, 11:02:56 AM
I wonder who are the several players ? my gosh is there is more we dont know about :o
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Ngozi on March 08, 2006, 11:09:16 AM
I MAINTAIN MY STANCE BOBBY ZAMORA SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED ONTO THAT NATIONAL TEAM I HOPE FIFA BAN HIM FROM PLAYING FOR TT HE IS THE EPITOMY OF WHAT A WAGGONIST IS.....IT BURNS ME JUST THINKING OF WHAT A HYPOCRITE HE IS AND HE IS NOT THAT GOOD THAT HE CAN BE SEEN AS A GUARANTEED SAVIOR OTHER MEN SHOW MORE COMMITTMENT AND ENTHUSIASM TOWARDS THE TEAM ...ILL NEVER SUPPORT HIS INCLUSION
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Jayerson on March 08, 2006, 11:17:36 AM
I agree with this post. Waggonest will only weaken the warriors. Maybe not so much now but long term.
For example If Warner get picked in front of Emps, after the World Cup will he still want to play for us?
Next Gold Cup Warner will say he have club commitments. And Emps who has given his all to the team over the years will not want to play anymore because he got over looked for the biggest event of his life. Of course this is just an e.g. but it could happen.  A lot of the younger players who are trying to make it on a future  T&T team will be discouraged. Why give it my all if when World Cup time comes I lose my spot to a waggonest who has never been to T&T before.  

It's long time Warner wanted to play for T&T. I even read that St. Claire even blanked him saying that T&T already had quality keepers at his disposal in Hislop and Ince. The man is no waggonist. You could say that only because he's a Prem keeper T&T gave him chance because they blank him for one reasson or the next when he was at Millwall.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: che on March 08, 2006, 12:13:23 PM
I agree with this post. Waggonest will only weaken the warriors. Maybe not so much now but long term.
For example If Warner get picked in front of Emps, after the World Cup will he still want to play for us?
Next Gold Cup Warner will say he have club commitments. And Emps who has given his all to the team over the years will not want to play anymore because he got over looked for the biggest event of his life. Of course this is just an e.g. but it could happen.  A lot of the younger players who are trying to make it on a future  T&T team will be discouraged. Why give it my all if when World Cup time comes I lose my spot to a waggonest who has never been to T&T before. 

It's long time Warner wanted to play for T&T. I even read that St. Claire even blanked him saying that T&T already had quality keepers at his disposal in Hislop and Ince. The man is no waggonist. You could say that only because he's a Prem keeper T&T gave him chance because they blank him for one reasson or the next when he was at Millwall.

I apologize for picking on Warner. :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: rippin on March 08, 2006, 04:02:27 PM
In this world is survival of the fittest. I would like to see Stern and them in the WC but if you not performing I will also like to see the best football team on the pitch. Stern is a strange striker. I think he performs best under pressure. Let Beenie and Jack keep on petitioning FIFA.

Ngozi the moderators done talk bout posting in all caps. If you didn't get the memo read the thread http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: troy piloy on March 08, 2006, 04:56:01 PM
We could watch it from another angle stern might be scared of the competiton ;D

He should be.. ;D ;D

oconnorg  :flamethrower: for you always hating on Stern

stern doe hadda be frighten of no competition cuz he is d boss

well said Small M
Stern will liight the world cup a fire i want you all to quote me here, I said it during the qualifers that Stern goals will be our saving grace and it was.

Stern will score against England and that goal will be the goal that put us into the second round of the World Cup
Troy Piloy said so

Troy 8)
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Mr Mc on March 08, 2006, 06:58:54 PM
In this world is survival of the fittest. I would like to see Stern and them in the WC but if you not performing I will also like to see the best football team on the pitch. Stern is a strange striker. I think he performs best under pressure. Let Beenie and Jack keep on petitioning FIFA.

Ngozi the moderators done talk bout posting in all caps. If you didn't get the memo read the thread http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0

forget them petitions and forget Zamora!!!

I going to make a big sign for the WC, i bound to make it on TV, it go look like a BIG PostCard

Dear Zamora,
Having lots of fun in Germany, wish you were here....NOT!!!!

                                                    -SocaWarrior Supporter
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: R45 on March 08, 2006, 07:14:56 PM
In this world is survival of the fittest. I would like to see Stern and them in the WC but if you not performing I will also like to see the best football team on the pitch. Stern is a strange striker. I think he performs best under pressure. Let Beenie and Jack keep on petitioning FIFA.

Ngozi the moderators done talk bout posting in all caps. If you didn't get the memo read the thread http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0
I would prefer for Stern to be replaced by someone who would've represented the team if we qualified. I'm pretty sure it's not only Stern that feels this way, bringing in waggonists could easily spoil the entire team's chemistry. I personally feel we are better off playing with the players we have, if we aren't good enough, so be it.. but it'll be people who really want to represent our country on the field and I'll be proud of my team once they made a genuine effort, win/lose/draw.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: john_public on March 08, 2006, 07:31:49 PM
i agree. dem fellars and dem just wanna be seen on the world cup stage to big up demself.  we have die hard players, thru they might not really be de best but atlease de team playin as a team and coverin for each other.  ;D
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Trinidadam on March 08, 2006, 08:24:39 PM
the coach an 'em know what they doing, its good to put pressure on stern he does come thru when he need to no doubt, but the next man to really look at is JONES (off d bench) his speed, strength and height would be a perfect compliment to samuel, on d left and his SSFL teamate edwards on d right (ya could imagine speed on that counter). people doh really talk to much bout him i guess cause he ain't score but this man is a true athlete he leave school playing as a las' stopper that coaches have developed into a striker. i believe he played last stopper fuh TT in the U-17WC. he's still growing as a striker and alot is still to be seen that much i'm certain of.


takin ah ride on d waggon ;)
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on March 08, 2006, 09:13:34 PM
locals all the way, john know wat he is sayin, but it have man who turn down tt and are on de team now, so its subjective, i think locals has always been the answer :beermug:

Ok mista man, you tell me which current player or trialist turn down TNT recently and is on the Team now?
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: fishs on March 08, 2006, 10:25:39 PM
Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?

Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: R45 on March 08, 2006, 10:37:11 PM
Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?

Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
It was first mentioned here http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12323.0

But the whole discussion of waggonists has been done over and over in topics, nothing new.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Fyzoman on March 09, 2006, 06:02:46 AM
i see stern john say dis on the gillette world cup special last nite......nuff man have interesting views about bringing in(or not bringing) new man onto de team at dis stage, but i have the utmost trust in that ugly(Beenie)man who take we from wha? 1 point in 3 games...to the world cup...tha fella go doh what best for de team and he image(legacy).....
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: RGarcia on March 09, 2006, 08:00:11 AM
i have been posting similar thoughts in the later path of 2005 that all of a sudden we have these guys coming out of nowhere with there ``Trinidad Parentage`` though they may help us look better on roster does not mean they can help us go any further in the big dance.Thats all bullshit jolld samuel and zamora can kiss my black a$$. And as Angus Eve say let the best players play!
Ricardo
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: FATZ on March 09, 2006, 08:30:32 AM
I have said this same thing before and i still agree with it. If Beenhakker give them piggy back riders a lil friendly sweat just to tie them up with T&T, cool but they must not sweat in front of any true trinis at the cup.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: fishs on March 09, 2006, 08:32:01 AM
Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?

Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.
It was first mentioned here http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=12323.0

But the whole discussion of waggonists has been done over and over in topics, nothing new.

Aite. was away in de middle ah nowhere fuh awhile. buh say wha, de team in de dance an some will play an some will stay. Ah still going an support if the all powerfull spare life.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Trini Madness on March 09, 2006, 09:51:25 AM
it not right for them guys to come out of nowhere and all of a sudden express interest,  when they were given de opportunity in de past. didnt beenie say that "it doesnt matter how good you are,  if you interfere with de chemistry yuh gone"?


one question off de subject:
did warner play for liverpool? when robbie fowler was de boss.
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Trini _2022 on March 09, 2006, 10:11:16 AM
it not right for them guys to come out of nowhere and all of a sudden express interest,  when they were given de opportunity in de past. didnt beenie say that "it doesnt matter how good you are,  if you interfere with de chemistry yuh gone"?


one question off de subject:
did warner play for liverpool? when robbie fowler was de boss.

i think he was a back up kepper then not sure
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Pointman on March 09, 2006, 11:06:13 AM
I didn't know that Stern had personally approached men to represent we in the hex when things looked bleek. I support Stern John 100%. At this stage with less than 100 days before the WC, I say lehwe juss go with what we have...weak area and all...at least we know these men have T&T at their core.

BIG UP T&T!

FIRE BUN WAGGONISTS!!  :flamethrower:

VIBES ITUP!!
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Jefferz on March 09, 2006, 12:36:25 PM
I didn't know that Stern had personally approached men to represent we in the hex when things looked bleek. I support Stern John 100%. At this stage with less than 100 days before the WC, I say lehwe juss go with what we have...weak area and all...at least we know these men have T&T at their core.

BIG UP T&T!

FIRE BUN WAGGONISTS!!  :flamethrower:

VIBES ITUP!!

buh you wasnt fighting for zamora and isnt you a stern john critic?
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: Storeboy on March 09, 2006, 12:38:56 PM
Ah have ah problem with dis thread.
How come reggaeboyz know about Stern saying dis on FSC an nobody else here know about it an talk about it earlier ?

Dis probably is another attemtp by we "caribbean brothers" to cause trouble in de camp.

I saw the program on FSC.  Stern did say that he was not in favor of the Waggonists joining the side now.  This no conspiracy.  And I agree with Stern.  If they so want to play for Trinidad, leh dem sign up now to play for the next Gold Cup, play for the Caribbean Cup and sign up now to help us qualify for the 2010 WC; then we will know thatthey really bleed red white and black.  Stern, Shaka, Ince, Carlos Edwards and others, even Sancho show up even when they injured just to represent TT and give support to the team.  That is the what Zamora should have done if he wanted to play for TT.  He publicly said that he wanted to play for England.  That is fine. But don't come now and try to say you want to play in world cp.  Steeeeuuuups!
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: RGarcia on March 09, 2006, 03:07:07 PM
yeah Storeboy yuh have it right! hull deh motha so and so
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: 100% Barataria on March 09, 2006, 04:19:41 PM
full reel, ah support Stern, was nice watchin de crew on Gilette, wulda be cool if Latas was on dat, wulda be cool....
Title: Re: Stern John's stance
Post by: College on March 09, 2006, 08:06:55 PM
Beenie has always voiced his intention to maintain the chemistry of the team and protect those who have worked hard all through the qualifications ,and for this he has won my admiration and that of many others.

I believe his attempt to maintain the chemistry also extends to the omission of Dwarika and Hardest.. just a thought
Title: FIFA Magazine April 06 - Stern John is a potential star
Post by: Peong on May 03, 2006, 07:58:07 PM
I just read through the April FIFA magazine and they have a list of potential stars for the World Cup, apart from the big names.

They had Adebayor(Togo), Podolski (Germany), Messi (Arg), Park Ji-Sung (S. Korea), Julio Dos Santos (Paraguay), Stern John and a couple others. 

The small write-up said that scored 12 goals in WCQ, and that he was the most promising player to come out of the MLS and was the best in the Caribbean or someting so.  Also how Nottingham Forest bought him for $3.something mil, then he had some injury trouble but is now at Coventry in England's "second-highest league."

I get real excited in de bookstore  ;D  That was the last copy they had and it was real beat-up, else I woulda buy it.

Ledley King was also named, and they mentioned he is from Antigua and Barbuda.  News to me.
Title: GOING TO THE WORLD CUP WITH STERN JOHN
Post by: E-man on May 04, 2006, 09:17:58 PM
GOING TO THE WORLD CUP WITH STERN JOHN
(Conducted by Shaun Fuentes)

4 May 2006

What do you think are our chances of reaching the second round in the World Cup?

It’s easier said than done. But we have the qualities to do it from the coach right down to the players. We need a good start for sure to set the pace. Sweden is not  a walk over team but at the end of the day anything can happen in football.

What are your earliest World Cup memories as a youngster?

Mario Kempes and then Diego Maradona in Mexico in `1986. I remember staying up all hours to look at games. Back then I didn’t know much about the game itself but I always had a dream to be a footballer by wanting to be on the same stage with the teams like England and Argentina. I think we have to play England next month no?

Your world has obviously changed a bit over the years and particularly since we qualified. How do you manage this and all the other attention.

It’s a bit  normal for me. It’s more attention for us really in Trinidad because now everyone wants to focus on the team. I am accustomed to it in England because they worship football here But in Trinidad it’s something new and we as players are getting more publicity back home now. It’s something that we may never experience again because of the fact that we qualified for the first time as the smallest country and this is s good for the game back home. I hope we can maintain it and put the proper systems in place for the future.

When you got into the T&T ,  in many ways you were young. Over the years, you have grown with it. What has helped you settled as a professional human being.

I think I have been able to keep my foot on the ground and I remember where I came from. As a person in my shoes you  have to be thankful to a lot o people who were there with you from the early days  and keep a level head. As hard as it is to get to the top, its always easier to hit rock bottom. When you are down, no one is there with you. You can’t get carried away. One of the reason for my kids program starting is because I wanted to  I give back . Back in my day there were not chances as they are today. I remember playing barefooted sometimes and when you got a boots sometimes it was only for the big matches your team had to play. Sometimes guys even shared boots Apart from that now I’m living a dream and not a lot of people get the chance to do that.

You preferred other profession?

SWAT with a big laugh. I really like anything that excited. Something that’s really exciting. A state trooper chasing bad guys on the roads. I just like that adrenalin rush flow..

Do you think you have been able to stamp yourself as a positive influence in the team?

Maybe  some of the senior players will acknowledge mea bit more. It’s always difficult for people in your own age group to do that but it’s something where they are also trying to make progress and they want to make their own name as well.  The players know I like to win and I want to go all out to get that win. Sometimes you might have a go at a younger player but they have to understand about the hunger inside. I was also at that stage t one time and  I came through it.

What are your aspirations for the World Cup and beyond.

For me as a country, I want us  to go as far as we could and that means second rounds. If we don’t at least we can leave with them saying good things about us. We want to show them that we are disciplined as a team and a country to go there and do well and surprise a lot of people . That’s driving me a lot more. At home the people may not  understand it as much because they are caught up in the hype but out there they look at us as the smallest team and ass no threat.. This on a whole is really driving me to do big things at the World Cup .

What are your top three T&T moments?

1. Qualifying for the World Cup in Bahrain. 2. The winner against Mexico was great and 3. when I scored the goal against Honduras after Mickey died. I’m getting goose bumps just talking about it now. I dedicated all my goals from the left foot to him and against Mexico it came from the left foot. When we were, playing for nothing in New Orleans we dreamt  about this .  I’m living his dream and he’s going there with us too.

Most embarrassing moment as a player.

Nothing really.

How do you think you have changed as a player since joining the national team?

I think internationally just the fact you are representing your country is unbelievable. Everyone wants to play for the country and once you have ambitions. It’s just a dream come true. I just wanted to play for Trinidad  and Tobago and see them do well and now I think I can a little more settled as a person.

Name two persons, whether relative or not who have been an inspiration to you.

Dwight Yorke from day one. Growing up watching the Strike Squad, and seeing him make it big in England from a third world country. That has been a major inspiration to me. My uncles and my brother Kenwyne John. When I used to come up for Dallas Cup, he used to drive us around, be around at the hotel, he’s much older than I am and he lives in Miami. Always been there for me. I tend to inspire myself because I’ve always wanted to be successful. I know how much hard work it takes to reach there. I want to make full use of a talent and I hope I can encourage others as well whether it be football or any other gift

What’s your favorite dish?

I eat too much lobster (laughs) and anyone who knows me knows that I love chicken… the healthy part – the centre breast

What’s your favourite kind of music to listen to?

I’m a  big hip hop fan but I mix up my music, I have my back in time with the rockers. I’m not a big fan of slow tunes but I like my calypso too even though  I don’t get the chance to be in Trinidad to enjoy it at Carnival time.

What was the last film or DVD you looked at?

Chaos!

What is a normal day for you in this day and age?

Get up go to training a bit earlier than the start time because I do some extra work  on the legs. We  start at 10:30 but I go in an hour or so before. Train for two hours  and I love to do finishing afterwards. I love the ball. Then I get home or  sometimes I go with the players or my strike partner  for lunch or for dinner.  Last couple of months I’ve  been doing my FA coaching badge. As a player and then when you start coaching you tend to appreciate the game a lot more and you learn about it more. One of the biggest things in coaching is getting your points across to players. I have been very happy with it but I don’t think I can be a full time coach.

Do you and if yes, how do you keep in touch with you roots.

I talk to my family in Trinidad all the time and my phone bills are ridiculous. I also have friends out side of school. Those from primary school who live in London and especially Hassan who is a cook and he brings some Trini feelings to  my house up here.

Any advice to young and upcoming ones?

Set goals and go after them. Some get it faster and easier but never compare yourself with others. You can idolize others and take pointers, but you have to be yourself. There nothing that can replace hard work. Be truthful to yourself. Be true to the game like Michael said.

Any predictions for the games?

I want to win all the games!

What’s the feeling inside of you now that the World Cup is getting closer and closer?

You start pinching yourself and realize you are really going to the World Cup .Everyone is talking about it now and as the season is finished, you are like ‘ damn, this is it here!”You get this  feeling in your belly just talking about it. Maybe some of us haven’t really understand yet what we have really achieved -  its something out of this world . You must  give the management staff praise and the entire team for this.. There will never be another achievement like this.  We are representing all the other teams and players who tried to get there before. Like we say, “We have to go and do we thing now”
Title: Re: GOING TO THE WORLD CUP WITH STERN JOHN
Post by: Grande on May 04, 2006, 10:09:05 PM
nice interview

Shaun ketch Stern as soon as he reach T&T oui
Title: Re: GOING TO THE WORLD CUP WITH STERN JOHN
Post by: trinbago on May 04, 2006, 10:42:15 PM
Ah have to say.....I have new found respect for Stern hearing him talk like that....a real true patriot...stuck with we through thick and thin

I think our journey as a country is epitomized by his statement: There will never be another achievement like this.  We are representing all the other teams and players who tried to get there before.

Title: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 25, 2006, 05:47:05 PM
On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....

66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)

18 goals in 38 WCQ games

Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
(Have to add 2 goals fuh de matches against Iceland, Peru & Austria trainin match)

When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option.  Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T.  Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team. 

Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute.  Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games.  Dat better dan Ronaldo.

In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games

De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man.  In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes. 

Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute?  Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!

Disgruntle?  Wha yuh say?

By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jefferz on May 25, 2006, 05:51:39 PM
Ive been preaching this for a while thanks for the link... well layed out... well said... I agree fully... well done Palos  :applause:


disgruntle when ah meet yuh ah learned that yuh eh de through and through prick i first thought you would be... yuh kool man... but if yuh jumbie dis and ah know yuh will... it will be rel cuss buddy...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 05:55:29 PM
On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....

65 goals in 91 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm)

18 goals in 38 WCQ games

Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)


When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option.  Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T.  Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team. 

Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute.  Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games.  Dat better dan Ronaldo.

In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games

De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3.4 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man.  In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes. 

Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute?  Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!

Disgruntle?  Wha yuh say?

By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.

Palos, you are dead wrong!  According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Yorke Yorke has at least 26 goals from 59 games.  -- Still LESS THAN HALF of Stern's tally! :rotfl:

I have been saying it over and over again... Stern is the best T&T striker ever and is currently the most prolific international striker to enter this World Cup. 

Big Up to Stern John!
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
Come to think of it... even Russell Latapy has more goals than Yorke.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=15265
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 25, 2006, 05:59:19 PM
Come to think of it... even Russell Latapy has more goals than Yorke.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=15265

Yuh really feel is 65 internationals alone Latas have?   ;D ;D

But serious....yuh right....IF Wilkopedia correck....dem have Dwight scorin 29 international goals....2 other sites have Latas scorin 28 international goals.

Here is a nex link....LATAPY CAREER GOALS FOR T&T (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/latapy-intlg.html)
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 06:02:54 PM
My mistake people, Yorke really only has 15 goals.  This is unbelievable to me.  So my question is after all that football that Yorke played for those clubs his contributions amount to 15 goals?  That is mess... I know some people will get angry with me, but that is not looking very good.  

Anyway, Stern for Real Madrid!

Here is the official stats by FIFA just look at the caps and goals for each Trini player.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=TRI
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 25, 2006, 06:05:22 PM
My mistake people, Yorke really only has 15 goals.  This is unbelievable to me.  So my question is after all that football that Yorke played for those clubs his contributions amount to 15 goals?  That is mess... I know some people will get angry with me, but that is not looking very good.  

Anyway, Stern for Real Madrid!

Here is the official stats by FIFA just look at the caps and goals for each Trini player.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=TRI

How FIFA site go say Jack eh have no goals?   ;D
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 06:08:01 PM
Hmmmm I only correcting myself... the Iranian fella is the #1 Striker to ever enter the World Cup- 109 goals in 145 games.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=IRN

So Stern has about 45 goals before he could take the #1 spot.  :'(
He go do it!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 06:09:32 PM
My mistake people, Yorke really only has 15 goals.  This is unbelievable to me.  So my question is after all that football that Yorke played for those clubs his contributions amount to 15 goals?  That is mess... I know some people will get angry with me, but that is not looking very good.  

Anyway, Stern for Real Madrid!

Here is the official stats by FIFA just look at the caps and goals for each Trini player.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/squad.html?team=TRI

How FIFA site go say Jack eh have no goals?   ;D
;D
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 25, 2006, 06:18:15 PM
On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....

66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)

18 goals in 38 WCQ games

Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
(Have to add 2 goals fuh de matches against Iceland, Peru & Austria trainin match)

When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option.  Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T.  Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team. 

Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute.  Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games.  Dat better dan Ronaldo.

In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games

De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man.  In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes. 

Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute?  Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!

Disgruntle?  Wha yuh say?

By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.


Smartest thing you have ever posted Palos...........  :beermug: :beermug:


Stern John is the best........   who d eff allyuh want to start  Kenwyn?   Kenwyn have what 2 goals for TnT

Be serious nah fellaz!

STERN 14

Form is Temporary...Class is Permanent....Stern has both!
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: trinidad badboy on May 25, 2006, 06:21:15 PM

 
he is very consistent as a striker...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Midknight on May 25, 2006, 06:23:11 PM
66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)

Ah not sure men should be counting the Brazil all stars and the Austria Wien game in there, but I just realise something else.

95 - Wales
96 - Slovenia
98 - Czech Republic
99 - Sweden
100 - England

How you figure he should celebrate his 100th cap  :devil:

Sorry just realised why i should have been paying attention in maths class  :-[
England will be his 99th cap...

the Paraguay match will be his 100th, he can still score the goals that send us into the second round... ;D
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 06:24:04 PM
I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup.  I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly.  This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication.  This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we.  That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football.  It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us.  Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland?  Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
  
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 06:25:17 PM
66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)

Ah not sure men should be counting the Brazil all stars and the Austria Wien game in there, but I just realise something else.

95 - Wales
96 - Slovenia
98 - Czech Republic
99 - Sweden
100 - England

How you figure he should celebrate his 100th cap  :devil:

Nice!  ;D
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 25, 2006, 06:30:36 PM
I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup.  I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly.  This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication.  This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we.  That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football.  It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us.  Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland?  Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
  
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.


Yuh eh have to bring dong Yorke to big up Stern sah.  Dwight Yorke experiences in de past is wha make he de man and de player he is today.  If dat is what it take to get he to dis point....more power to Dwight. 

Remember.....Dwight Yorke never play out and out STRIKER too many times for T&T anyway.  Leh we jes give thanks and praises dat we have players like him who represent de red, white & black nah.  I did question Dwight recall to de team and subsequent rise to captain but de greatest gift Bertille St Clair gave our twin island state was to ignore the protests and bring back Dwight...and not jes bring he back...but make he captain.

We needed ALL of our players to get where we are...not jes Stern John.  Remember dat bro.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 25, 2006, 06:33:15 PM
I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup.  I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly.  This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication.  This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we.  That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football.  It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us.  Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland?  Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
  
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.


Yuh eh have to bring dong Yorke to big up Stern sah.  Dwight Yorke experiences in de past is wha make he de man and de player he is today.  If dat is what it take to get he to dis point....more power to Dwight. 

Remember.....Dwight Yorke never play out and out STRIKER too many times for T&T anyway.  Leh we jes give thanks and praises dat we have players like him who represent de red, white & black nah.  I did question Dwight recall to de team and subsequent rise to captain but de greatest gift Bertille St Clair gave our twin island state was to ignore the protests and bring back Dwight...and not jes bring he back...but make he captain.

We needed ALL of our players to get where we are...not jes Stern John.  Remember dat bro.
Point taken Palos.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: E-man on May 25, 2006, 07:12:59 PM
66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)

Ah not sure men should be counting the Brazil all stars and the Austria Wien game in there, but I just realise something else.

95 - Wales
96 - Slovenia
98 - Czech Republic
99 - Sweden
100 - England

How you figure he should celebrate his 100th cap  :devil:

Sorry just realised why i should have been paying attention in maths class  :-[
England will be his 99th cap...

the Paraguay match will be his 100th, he can still score the goals that send us into the second round... ;D

If you're counting games against clubs like Austria Wein then there is also the St. Pauli game, so your missing 97 would be that and England would still be his 100th.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Peong on May 25, 2006, 10:22:52 PM
Does our game vs Austria Wien count as an International cap?  I know Stern played for our national team but I not sure if it counts since we did not play against a national team.  Anybody familiar with the rules concerning this?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Storeboy on May 25, 2006, 11:20:19 PM
Playing against Austria Wein cannot be considered an International cap.  Just like how hey not counting the goals today in the England Belarus game because they say it was a "B" team.  So ah hear the commentator say
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 25, 2006, 11:23:16 PM
Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty -  has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?

I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..

edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month.. 
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: oconnorg on May 25, 2006, 11:31:15 PM
Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty -  has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?

I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..

edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month.. 

I endorse ths... i always say this and yet men for some reason choose to bash me and waste me down as being "Anti Stern" thats not the case atall..

My points are exactly as you state there man.. cheeers..
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 25, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty -  has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?

I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..

edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month.. 

Seeing that Stern John made his debut for T&T in 1996, I am pretty sure that in the years prior to 1996 other strikers have played for T&T, including such luminaries as Steve David, Buggy Haynes, Genwyn Cust etc.  According to many "old timers"...the midfielders (and players in general) in that era were VASTLY superior to the current team memebers, so it stands to reason that those players had better service.  What is their record in comparison? 

We can "hypothesise" all we want, but the FACTS speak for themselves.  That is something no one can take away from Stern John.

As for whether we have ample coverage....we all hope so.  But to be quite honest...I don't see any other T&T striker scoring the type of goal that Stern scored against Mexico (2nd goal) for example.  Just like I don't see any other T&T player scoring the type of goal that latapy scored against Guatemala.

Is not like we have this potent midfield that creating bagfuls of chances every game for the others to get "more" than Stern's output.  Matter of fact, many on this site repeatedly claim that this Soca Warrior team is inferior in talent and ability to the 2001, 1997, 1993 and 1989 WCQ teams.  If this team is so "limited" in terms of talent therefore "SERVICE" to create chances is less, how is Stern John still the top scorer on the team?  Where would these chances come from for the other players to score?  I would definitely HOPE so...for I want my T&T team to do well....but likely?  Nah.

But we go agree to disagree on this.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: trinbago on May 26, 2006, 01:46:48 AM
We may have had better individual  players in the past.....we even have players on the team, as you all know, that are past their prime now....

However,,,I can certainly believe this is the BEST TEAM we ever had in the history of TnT.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
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Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jah Gol on May 26, 2006, 05:15:41 AM
I was one of the people who supported Stern started even when men were calling for his head. If Beenie could start this man after having 1 point from 3 games then I think that says something of what Stern means to this team. There is no way we would have qualified without this coach and without a player called Stern John.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 26, 2006, 05:50:16 AM
Jus for argument sake, if the dedication of Stern - as well as quality, of course, as well as his consistent injury free availabilty -  has him constantly starting as just reward and encoragement over the years, given the position and type of play who else could have more goals than Stern ?

I will continue to play him and bless T&T. Yet, I am not of the impression that our present forwards, if they were to become our target men, will need 5 chances to score 1,. As a matter of fact I think given their youth and fitness, they will probably create at least 5 more chances for other people. (assist) , which is an ability, given Sterns present state, we could be missing...I don't know, cause we have seen no one else regularly....Yet, I do agree, we can only hypothesize as to"if", yet I have a quiet confidence that if Stern is unable to get the job done, BeenE has ample coverage, and may possibly get more from our younger understudies...they will be ready...Lets' go Stern , Lets' go T&T..

edit: nb. I refer especially to the last 2 years up to next month.. 

Seeing that Stern John made his debut for T&T in 1996, I am pretty sure that in the years prior to 1996 other strikers have played for T&T, including such luminaries as Steve David, Buggy Haynes, Genwyn Cust etc.  According to many "old timers"...the midfielders (and players in general) in that era were VASTLY superior to the current team memebers, so it stands to reason that those players had better service.  What is their record in comparison? 

We can "hypothesise" all we want, but the FACTS speak for themselves.  That is something no one can take away from Stern John.

As for whether we have ample coverage....we all hope so.  But to be quite honest...I don't see any other T&T striker scoring the type of goal that Stern scored against Mexico (2nd goal) for example.  Just like I don't see any other T&T player scoring the type of goal that latapy scored against Guatemala.

Is not like we have this potent midfield that creating bagfuls of chances every game for the others to get "more" than Stern's output.  Matter of fact, many on this site repeatedly claim that this Soca Warrior team is inferior in talent and ability to the 2001, 1997, 1993 and 1989 WCQ teams.  If this team is so "limited" in terms of talent therefore "SERVICE" to create chances is less, how is Stern John still the top scorer on the team?  Where would these chances come from for the other players to score?  I would definitely HOPE so...for I want my T&T team to do well....but likely?  Nah.

But we go agree to disagree on this.

Thank you for clearing this up with them.  Some people could never see Stern John for who he really is just because he never played for ManU.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jumbie on May 26, 2006, 06:08:44 AM
On de CURRENT TEAM.....Barring Injury that is....

66 goals in 94 games for T&T (http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm) (Ah jes add de Iceland, Peru and de Austria trainin match to he totals)

18 goals in 38 WCQ games

Compare dis wit de 2nd highest scorer fuh T&T stats....WHAT DE? (http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/yorke-intlg.html)
(Have to add 2 goals fuh de matches against Iceland, Peru & Austria trainin match)

When yuh let dat SINK EEN PROPAH.....yuh realise it eh have no nex option.  Nobody else even in de same universe like Stern when it come to scorin goals fuh T&T.  Even if he miss 10 in a game....he still more likely to score dan anybody else on we team. 

Dem stats kinda shock meh in trute.  Stern international goal rate is 1 goal per every 1.4 games.  Dat better dan Ronaldo.

In WCQ is 1 goal every 2 games

De nex man on de totem pole goal rate is 1 goal every 3 games....daz TWICE de number of times Stern more likely to score dan de nex man.  In WCQ...is 1 goal every 6 games fuh de nex man yes. 

Lawd.....wha we woulda do without Stern John in trute?  Me eh care how much goal he trow way....how outta form he is....dem stats dey speak VOLUMES!

Disgruntle?  Wha yuh say?

By de way Flexos....ah love how de fella in de 2nd link give special thanks to soca warriors online fuh he information.

The numbers do speak..however which other striker during "Half slab" time have been given more time at the position? If a striker is given all or most of the time upfront it's only accepted that he should score the most? Additionally..what is is shoot-miss-score ratio.. for the amount of misses we can assume that the chances for him were created..so any other striker, given those chamce may have produced (or not)?

I eh know what is Beenie plans..but it would be nice to see HS come back ah few times and help out when we in trouble.

Not to take anything away from meh boy HS.. cause he's a real dedicated Warrior and a certain level of respect must be shown to him for his contributions.

Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: SHOTTA on May 26, 2006, 09:33:30 AM
stern john did not walk into ithe team on his debut in 1996

he pushed someone out of a place and let his boots do the talking

who is pushing him hard on this squad??

u push him he pushes back with a goal u push more he pushes back with a brace

he shows the coach that to pick me is to insure we score to pick them is to see we get chances to score

im sure whoever the strikers were when stern came in men like leonson..i think were wary of this young fellar wit a pistol thinkin he aint go take my spot

but goals talk and like scotty beauty in the austria wein game and jones header d other striker talkin back

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

so man like #8 and hyper j who is glenn and jones advocates tell allyuh boys keep pushing they chanc go come
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 09:51:11 AM
If it was all about numbers, Angus Eve would be on this Team as a top scoring dedicated scoring midfielder...and he score big goals too...but it is not all about numbers....Please don't misunderstand, I am not calling for banishment of Stern...I just think he should be playing a different role -  ala Yorke, Latapy,, as opposed to being our #1 main go to guy....the role I would personally like to see him play, is more like his earlier days with Birningham...sort of playing the position Yorke now plays, as a supporting forward, as opposed to out and out Striker..His most recent goals, including his big Mexico, did not come from that Striker position, but from the support position...rebound from whitley shot and lateral ricohet from whitleys' tackle.... his one outright striker play was when he was fouled and awarded a penalty...anybody coulda miss that, most would score it....not holding that against nobody...
So I think - depending on the situation of course - he should not be the main target, and would probably benefit from a more hardworking target man, more than the other way round...

nb: I am not doubting BeenE decisions, just suggesting other alternatives, not the solution
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Arazi on May 26, 2006, 10:37:43 AM
anyway you look at it, STERN JOHN IS OUR BEST STRIKER, YES HE IS!!! ook at stern club season this year, Kenweyne Jones is one d first name to call buh he play more games dan stern this season and scored less dan stern, less danm half, he is an incomplete striker... Stern has the true striker instinct in the end of the days he is still the striker who will pulla goal out he ass, even tho he does throw way...LOOK AT THE GOAL HE SCORE AGAINST PANAMA IN D STADIUM, WHICH ONE OF OUR OTHER STIKERS WAS GOING TO SCORE A GOAL LIKE DAT, IT WASN'T PRETTY, BUT IT WAS A TRUE STRIKERS GOAL AND IT WASN'T THE EASIEST GOAL TO SCORE, throughout his career, i have seen Stern score goals dat looked improbable and none of our pother strikers have yet to show me dat they can do dat as yet.... this is probably what beenhakker has seen in training  and called him a class player, yes he can be a frustrating player buh he is more effective, too many trinidadians does get caught up in d hype, glen, jones arew exciting but do they deliver???  knewenyne jones has 2 goals in 25 games ppl and glen's record isn't special either, the only striker truly capable of taking stern place is scotland and half of allyuh not even checking for him...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: kappy on May 26, 2006, 10:43:43 AM
anyway you look at it, STERN JOHN IS OUR BEST STRIKER, YES HE IS!!! ook at stern club season this year, Kenweyne Jones is one d first name to call buh he play more games dan stern this season and scored less dan stern, less danm half, he is an incomplete striker... Stern has the true striker instinct in the end of the days he is still the striker who will pulla goal out he ass, even tho he does throw way...LOOK AT THE GOAL HE SCORE AGAINST PANAMA IN D STADIUM, WHICH ONE OF OUR OTHER STIKERS WAS GOING TO SCORE A GOAL LIKE DAT, IT WASN'T PRETTY, BUT IT WAS A TRUE STRIKERS GOAL AND IT WASN'T THE EASIEST GOAL TO SCORE, throughout his career, i have seen Stern score goals dat looked improbable and none of our pother strikers have yet to show me dat they can do dat as yet.... this is probably what beenhakker has seen in training  and called him a class player, yes he can be a frustrating player buh he is more effective, too many trinidadians does get caught up in d hype, glen, jones arew exciting but do they deliver???  knewenyne jones has 2 goals in 25 games ppl and glen's record isn't special either, the only striker truly capable of taking stern place is scotland and half of allyuh not even checking for him...

There's only one Jason Scotland .... Scotty to blaze in germany
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 11:36:43 AM
Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.

Allow me a question ?

Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 26, 2006, 11:40:33 AM
Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.

Allow me a question ?

Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?

How about just Stern John.

Tink people in Brazil does be talkin bout leh we select Ronaldo from 1996 instead a Ronaldo in 2006?

You self man maxg. 
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: sprog on May 26, 2006, 11:53:41 AM
I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup.  I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly.  This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication.  This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we.  That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football.  It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us.  Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland?  Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
  
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.


I aint too like dis nah ! Yorke is  a boss and as a striker when he was in he prime stern aint want nothing with him, i wonder who got traded at Birmingham to make room for Yorke.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 11:56:40 AM
Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.

Allow me a question ?

Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?

How about just Stern John.

Tink people in Brazil does be talkin bout leh we select Ronaldo from 1996 instead a Ronaldo in 2006?

You self man maxg. 

 ;D Then they shoulda pick Romario instead....the numbers has spoken  ;)
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jah Gol on May 26, 2006, 12:01:35 PM
stern john did not walk into ithe team on his debut in 1996

he pushed someone out of a place and let his boots do the talking

who is pushing him hard on this squad??

u push him he pushes back with a goal u push more he pushes back with a brace

he shows the coach that to pick me is to insure we score to pick them is to see we get chances to score

im sure whoever the strikers were when stern came in men like leonson..i think were wary of this young fellar wit a pistol thinkin he aint go take my spot

but goals talk and like scotty beauty in the austria wein game and jones header d other striker talkin back

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

so man like #8 and hyper j who is glenn and jones advocates tell allyuh boys keep pushing they chanc go come

I have the same opinion. Leave Stern where he is. If you're arguing on merit Stern can't be removed. If the idea of replacing Stern is one of succession planning then it makes a little more sense and even then he should still play a part 2010.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 12:18:58 PM
Did someone say remove him ? If I missed that post, sorry .
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 12:33:08 PM
Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?

I happen to think it is his "shot" and screening ability, USED to be his quick turn,speed, heading ability and shot.
thus I would play him in a position where he is most likely get a chance to use his best ability, that's all.

If I am wrong on what I (not all Trinidadians) percieve to be the change in his game (lack of my privy to practice info), then my reasoning is incorrect. I am basing my opinion on my observation of his games - before and after his knee injury.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 26, 2006, 01:27:26 PM
Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?

66 goals in 94 games.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jah Gol on May 26, 2006, 01:44:40 PM
Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?

I happen to think it is his "shot" and screening ability, USED to be his quick turn,speed, heading ability and shot.
thus I would play him in a position where he is most likely get a chance to use his best ability, that's all.

If I am wrong on what I (not all Trinidadians) percieve to be the change in his game (lack of my privy to practice info), then my reasoning is incorrect. I am basing my opinion on my observation of his games - before and after his knee injury.

Stern scored no fewer than 12 goals in qualifying 2nd only to Borgetti with 14 who scored a fistful against St. Kitts and St. Vincent and Dominica in their stadiums in the sky, compared to Stern's  6 goals in 10 games in the hex. If there was something tactically wrong with Stern's role on the field the coach would have moved him.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: SHOTTA on May 26, 2006, 01:48:09 PM
Another question : What is Stern greatest strength as a forward for T&T ?

66 goals in 94 games.

i am in total acqience
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 02:34:48 PM
well, point man it is...Iz ah good thing BeenE doh call me to ask me meh opinion eh !  ;)

next thing, he blamin me if de man doh do that ting that he oobviously does so well....all the best Stern....wherever the coach play yuh, I behind yuh 100 %...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jefferz on May 26, 2006, 02:42:17 PM
some of these fellahz rel pompous oui they love to call the names of the fellahz they like.


I dont care who you like. I support each and every player on that feild and when it comes to we strikers no one puts the ball in the net as nicely or as frequently as Stern John so dont bother trying to argue that any of our forwards are better because you are simply wrong before you even type.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 03:00:42 PM
some of these fellahz rel pompous oui they love to call the names of the fellahz they like.


I dont care who you like. I support each and every player on that feild and when it comes to we strikers no one puts the ball in the net as nicely or as frequently as Stern John so dont bother trying to argue that any of our forwards are better because you are simply wrong before you even type.
Better than ? Well thanks for straightenin meh out. next time  ah get ah thought I will just PM yuh before ah type..so ah wouldn't waste nobody time nah..and if yuh doh know the answer, yuh could type the ideas for meh...cause den it would be right..and ah wouldn't embarras mehself so  by trying to have ah meanful discussion bout any of our players, as ah doh support every one of them as you   ::)

wait....ah to damn farse, yuh wasn't even talkin to me right ?    ;D
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Arazi on May 26, 2006, 03:37:51 PM
Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.

Allow me a question ?

Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
d hype i was talking is bout is dat rel ppl after the peru game bawl oh how kenwenye shud be starting he's the real striker throw way stern john... and was hearind this start glen or jones over john from long time, da's d hype iwas talking bout...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jefferz on May 26, 2006, 04:59:52 PM
Arazi, what is the 'hype' that to many T&Tians does get caught up in ? Look ah don't think anybody disputing Stern's ability.

Allow me a question ?

Which Stern would ppl select for this Team...Stern John '96 or Stern John'05 ?
d hype i was talking is bout is dat rel ppl after the peru game bawl oh how kenwenye shud be starting he's the real striker throw way stern john... and was hearind this start glen or jones over john from long time, da's d hype iwas talking bout...


all tell yuh Azari Trinifinite was saying exactly that when de game was done... stewps and maxg... I cant figure out what point you are trying to push... I am simply fedup of people doing just what Azari described there... our through and through striker doesnt perform well and after one game plenty people jump on the "toss out John" waggon again... I am fedup of that shit...


and by the way... I put forth a point and you obviously could not despute it... so instead of trying to despute it you tryed to attack me and not my point... what are you trying to prove...??... other than your a pompous idiot
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 26, 2006, 05:57:48 PM
I really want our real striker to shine in the world cup.  I say this because I remember that Stern would come back to play for us no matter what (risking club and all), and he would play wholeheartedly.  This is precisely why he's scored so many goals - dedication.  This is why Leo Beenhakker calls him a class striker.
Yorke on the other hand always blew the trumpet about how he was playing at the very "highest level of football", and then would play a lil something just to say he eh forget we.  That is also why it was so easy for him to walk out on us - back to his "highest level" of football.  It's only after this plan crashed that Yorke decided to play wholeheartedly for us.  Could you imagine that he just scored goals #14 and #15 against Iceland?  Completely Pathetic for a so-called world class striker that played for years at the highest level - Even David Beckham, a midfielder, has more goals than Yorke.
  
Yorke might be the captain, but dedication and commitment has made Stern John the Boss.


I aint too like dis nah ! Yorke is  a boss and as a striker when he was in he prime stern aint want nothing with him, i wonder who got traded at Birmingham to make room for Yorke.
You know I had already conceeded that Palos had a point, but since you brought it back up here goes:

Yorke has 15 international goals for T&T - that's it. Not one more.
Stern has 64 international goals for T&T.

If Beenhakker was looking for a striker that is most likely to score, who do you think he would choose?

That is precisely why Yorke is playing in the midfield and NOT as a striker.  He, quite frankly, is of little scoring value to T&T's team - just like if you played Lawrence as a striker he would be ineffective.  Maybe he could score on the club level or the "highest level" as he always calls it, but scoring against international sides (even teams like Grenada) tends to be a problem.  In contrast, no international side has been a problem for Stern to score against.

The thing that a lot of people are having problems with (and I really getting tired of having to say this) is understanding that club success does not translate into international team value.
 Example: Birchall is a big nobody in his home club, but a diamond on the international field against world class competition like Mexico - did you see him have a hard time against Mexico?  He didn't even flinch.  He totally dominated the competition.
Yorke on the other hand, (and I am not comparing him to Brichall here) has raised every club trophy, and yet only has celebrity status value versus scoring value on the T&T team.  The fact is even Latapy has scored more than "highest level" striker Yorke.  What club does Latapy play for?

Do not let Yorke's Premiership celebrity status blind you and cause you to overlook Stern John - a striker that Yorke simply can never be mentioned next to in the official FIFA World Top Strikers in the history of football.

One other thing Stern John is currently only 13 goals away from shattering the great Brazilian Pele's record.  Where is Yorke in comparison to Pele?  Nah, let's lower the bar.  Let's compare Yorke's scoring value in T&T against Landon Donovan's scoring value on the USA team.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 06:44:48 PM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 26, 2006, 06:59:39 PM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes!  Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!!  Yuh get a visa to go Germany?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jumbie on May 26, 2006, 08:18:11 PM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes!  Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!!  Yuh get a visa to go Germany?

VISA?.. one thing at a time..Passport fuss..dem he go worry bout Visa, plane ticket, travellers cheque, grip.. etc
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Tongue on May 26, 2006, 08:31:06 PM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes!  Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!!  Yuh get a visa to go Germany?

VISA?.. one thing at a time..Passport fuss..dem he go worry bout Visa, plane ticket, travellers cheque, grip.. etc

which VISA doh?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jumbie on May 26, 2006, 08:50:19 PM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh see me....I fraid de borse yes!  Say hello fuh meh....SH say hello too!!  Yuh get a visa to go Germany?

VISA?.. one thing at a time..Passport fuss..dem he go worry bout Visa, plane ticket, travellers cheque, grip.. etc

which VISA doh?

From he boss!..
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2006, 10:01:13 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Borse say ah could Germany if ah want, Germany an Beyond. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Wha dah mean boy...Sound like ah go need ah starship, not ah visa..
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jefferz on May 26, 2006, 11:46:39 PM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

well you shouldnt have tried to fight fire with fire know what I mean?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: jose on May 27, 2006, 10:02:29 AM
boy i find some men sounding like dey trying to diss yorke,but the truth is currently yorke pulling his weight more than john,and frankly we should start with jones cause he deserve it,john pull us through plenty in the past but right know he eh make it.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: 1989 on May 27, 2006, 07:53:00 PM
boy i find some men sounding like dey trying to diss yorke,but the truth is currently yorke pulling his weight more than john,and frankly we should start with jones cause he deserve it,john pull us through plenty in the past but right know he eh make it.

You know what I like about Stern?  The fact that he is the only striker that could score against Wales.  Nobody else could deliver.  Win or Lose Stern is the only sure scorer.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 27, 2006, 08:57:10 PM
67 goals in 95 games
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 28, 2006, 12:07:01 AM
What do ypu mean Jefferz ?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Brej on May 28, 2006, 07:48:41 AM
yeah summa alya rel miscountin goals
austria goal doh count
nieither duz de brazil team goal
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Arazi on May 28, 2006, 09:19:33 AM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

The majority of whom the knowlegable heads on this forum, talking to average not trini, unless i seem to attract them, i encounter the DROP STERN COMMITTEE very regularly and even after he score and everybody throw yday dey calling for him...

I am not convinced about Kenweyne Jones deserving a spot, not yet anyway, he still doesn't impress me as a striker, his speed makes him a nusiance buh he is hardly a finisher or fluent striker as yet and just cause he does "seem" more involved in game with his runs watever he doesn't have a big imapct in the game in my opinion.. i rather glen or scotland as the second dtirker with stern and if we play right the REAL stern will show up...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: noname on May 28, 2006, 10:01:39 AM
Arazi, if most of the ppl saying leave Stern, and a few say change his role, and even fewer say drop him...Wouldn't the hype be those in the majority ? That is why I was confused.

Jefferz, I thought I did get the point of your first post, which stated to me that I was pompous and if I have any ideas I shouldn't keep them to myself, and in your second post, you added I am stupid, and you say I attacked you when I tried to clarify what I understood.... without knowing me at all, without ever discussing any topic with me, you think I am arrogant, and stupid.....Ok, I get all that, what point did I miss ? Nah, doh answer that, it will be even more stupid of me to carry on this discussion ;D....My intention with my response to you in the first place was to sarcastically demonstrate, your bad manners and offensive tone, and obviously I messed up and managed to make you feel bad...I apolagize....all that is unnecessay... but better believe I would continue to discuss things that I may need help understanding or testing some ideas, even seemingly stupid ones...so please bear with me.......Ignorant, Stupid, buh pompous meh yute ?  :D :D
 :devil:

Palos, ah have to show the borse this new low ah sink too...lawd   :rotfl:

well you shouldnt have tried to fight fire with fire know what I mean?

Have some respect little boy...just cause you dont have the mental capacity to decipher a point doesnt mean that its not there...once in a while its good to sit back and just read without rushin in to type that utter garbage that passes for your opinion.

Now back to the point,
Hadda disagree maxg, Stern is CLASS. He go have me cussing right through a game but in a flash he go be in the right position. Now if we talking bout who could take his place? None of the forwards on our team can do that....Stern's initial touches and control are 10x better than glenn and Jones...Scotland on his way but i doh think that right now is a time to experiment with a different setup. Run Stern as much as you can and put a backup for him to layoff too.

Personally, ah just wish the man would not wait for the ball to bounce or come down as in recent games....with better defenders, that ball go be cleared out.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: Jah Gol on May 28, 2006, 10:42:18 AM
We've discussed this topic ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Here is my opinion. Stern John is Stern John and no player with a Trinidad and Tobago passport can tie Stern's shoes when it comes to scoring goals. Moreover the system that coach who took us to our first World Cup chose demands a player like Stern John. I think those who critcise Stern should do so in the context of the man's record and of the coach's unwavering support him.
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 28, 2006, 11:06:45 AM
Guys, my argument was not of including or excluding Stern...It was changing his role for the Front striker to the supporting striker...Most presented points why he should start, ah lil fella even get offend and start to disrespect heself....ah nex man seem to think that if someone disagree with the status quo he may not be knowledable, or even ah old head  ;D That is not the point whether or not he should start, I was supporting why he should play the different role..
If Stern produces, but he is not the best in the World and the best Team in the world did/do not depend on 1 man to score, if we only depend on Stern to score then we will most surely lose, we have to have Stern score and someone else, and I think Stern has the ability to get other people to score, if he is so Instructed. None of the other forwards has his control and holdup ability as well, but at present for this level he is too deep to properly utilize....he mostly recieving air balls, or ballls with 3 men on...very difficult for ANYBODY to Operate...so I am basically preaching change the tactics not the player....the time to try that is now..not next week.....
I hope this is clearer.
Got's to go cause meh bad ass coolie wife buggin meh...
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: palos on May 28, 2006, 11:40:32 AM
Got's to go cause meh bad ass coolie wife buggin meh...

Yuh have a nex wife oddah dan de one I know or wha?
Title: Re: Why Stern John is a MUST STARTER for T&T
Post by: maxg on May 28, 2006, 12:10:48 PM
Got's to go cause meh bad ass coolie wife buggin meh...

Yuh have a nex wife oddah dan de one I know or wha?

Break Time....wuk boy...wuk..
nah same one, different name different circles   ;D
aka "D Puna asaissin", aka "Mammy" aka "Virgin Mary" ... nah same one jus smarter or should I say more deadly   :D :D

buh she call it as ah write it..
Title: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on May 31, 2006, 05:13:27 PM
I was in a self imposed silence since the Arsenal game, but I real vex with this side.

It is painfully obvious we ent beating nobody with that brand we playing and what is worse is we get three from a shit side.

Slovenia ent play nuttin and alyuh just looking for excuse.......

I realise many of you all didnt see the 1st half as the stream wasnt running then.

If you did, you woulda see how we didn't have a clue..........that first goal 5 men in our area vs 3 clueless TT defenders.

Yorke playing first stopper and we just ent have a clue going fwd.

We couldnt come out our half for the first 20 min .

The second goal shaka do shit and a man tuck it in.

But I notice alyuh ent talk about the man who for me was the Goat of the game.


This #14 fella.


Who making excuse for he today.

#14 Get this in yuh head and all the other men on the field......

This is WC...yuh playing the best in the world and the chupidness yuh coulda get away with in Concacaf will not cut it any more.

GOALS WIN MATCHES

YUH HAVE TO TAKE YUH CHANCE WHEN IT COMES

WE WILL ONLY GET 1-2 CHANCES Per game...........BURY IT.

The line between Hero and Shithound is very thin.....The last time yuh was on the Hero side was 5 games ago.

You get a one on one in the 18 and try to chip the keeper who in the six yard box instead of piping bullet.

The thing is had he scored that "gift" we would have immediately been back in the game MOMENTUM WISE.

Then the attempted beat and fall down in the six yard box.

Then the clear tru ball to hit wide.

Then the cross that yuh jest collide with the keeper

OH Shit man #14

Score the judgement goals and let people like yuh.

Yuh not tracking back, yuh not involving others in the play, yuh not being creative and yuh not running off the ball to create space.

If yuh ent scoring whats yuh purpose......at least use yuh size to do something instead of falling down.....and stop the star boy shit.

Yuh playing Shit yuh pulling stones and yuh giving all of we heart attack.

This #14 come like the youth who playing mortal combat in the arcade and cyar beat the first opponent. He only wasting tokens, wasting tokens over and over and no amount of feeding getting him better.


I sorry for Shaka but both he and the defence is to blame for all d shit goals and we start back shadowing and pointin. Bring Back Ince yes put Ince in the post for the Czech game.

They had only two positives in that game.

Birchall show he could shoot and score and we get one good cross from Wise who show he could do something.

I will maintain my WC prediction as nothing has shown me otherwise but yuh know what.

This TT side going and do the usual and play good in the games we supposed to lorse badly and we will pull orf a decent performance vs Czech.

But until then #14

You, the TT defence and the rest of the men who pulling stones look what alyuh need a dose of before alyuh reach prague

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three good lash with this go straighten them out

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and finally


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Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: palos on May 31, 2006, 05:14:49 PM
Senna Pods...... :rotfl:  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: The_Ice on May 31, 2006, 05:18:31 PM
shut up!!!i figure it out... Bennie trying to confuffle the world b4 the WC!!!! and as for stern i dont think u should complain... although he didnt put away his chances he still got alotta them and tended to be in the best positions we got throughout the game
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: doh_stick on May 31, 2006, 05:19:06 PM
i like de bull pistle  :devil:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Grande on May 31, 2006, 05:21:00 PM

This TT side going and do the usual and play good in the games we supposed to lorse badly and we will pull orf a decent performance vs Czech.
 

Touches yuh come back lashin hard

but if you are correct with this statement then that is a cause for optimism
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: leon on May 31, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
Touches u are right...
TNT won't be able to get away with being 2- 0 at halftime and come back second half and win 3-2 as they did to the Vincentians in the qualifiers....
This aint no joke ting..
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: FF on May 31, 2006, 05:28:22 PM
... but Touches.... de ppl and dem say:

If Better can't be done.... Let de worse continue!!  :-X

But what funny is... if it was Disgruntled post dis.... he woulda done get lynch!

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: TriniCana on May 31, 2006, 05:28:56 PM
ummm Touches when ya finish exposing meh whip ya think ya could return it where ya find it ?

God knows why i didn't watch dat game yes. up to now i ain't hear one person say something positive about the team on their way to dey WC

Everytime i come in dey forum normally i scann de website.....

"Soca Warriors’ get Welsh lesson" and now this "Slovenia spank T&T 3-1".   WHA' NEXT  >:(

steups
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on May 31, 2006, 05:31:33 PM
It is not the result that bothers me.

It is the performance or rather lack thereof that needs work.

I am simply of the view we are not ready.

I more than anyone else want TT to win some games and advance.

But I cannot see it happening with that brand, that defence and that striker.

I just dont want us be embarrassed when we play our three games.

Lemme not call no names...........but some of alyuh posters gettin orn like a person who boil a pot of white rice, put orn a pair brown shades and eating it and bawling the pelau tasting good.

Face the reality and doe let the patriotism goggles blind yuh.

We in white rice mode and we ent eating nice atall.



Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: scarface on May 31, 2006, 05:35:57 PM
is like my coach always used to tell us.....ur only as good as ur last game!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Trini_fan on May 31, 2006, 05:46:24 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Right now ah sure yuh have real waggonist searching google to figure out who is #14
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on May 31, 2006, 06:01:21 PM
I ain't go lie, that mortal combat anology was real funny :rotfl:

but seriously give d number 14 thing a rest, get over it. this so called worst thing in tugs is we best hope, so u might as well get used to it for now!!!
thanks
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on May 31, 2006, 06:09:31 PM
the thing i agree with most is the Momentum factor... we create none of it... we are sticky and hesitant... I see only three players on our team that create good attacking Momentum and they arnt the best player necessarily...


those players are, Latapy, Birchall and Wise.


All the others can string up passes and beats once or twice... but they cant put it in the net and it is sorely frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: StoreBayLimer on May 31, 2006, 06:11:40 PM
I was in a self imposed silence since the Arsenal game, but I real vex with this side.
.......


I sorry for Shaka but both he and the defence is to blame for all d shit goals and we start back shadowing and pointin. Bring Back Ince yes put Ince in the post for the Czech game.

....
I will maintain my WC prediction as nothing has shown me otherwise but yuh know what.

........
....
 


I also really want to see Ince in goal for the Czech game; at least to see the man in action. That said  Jack is still the #1 keeper.

What are your predictions for the WC?
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2006, 06:16:42 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: The_Ice on May 31, 2006, 06:21:52 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

 :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: saga pinto on May 31, 2006, 06:27:03 PM
shut up!!!i figure it out... Bennie trying to confuffle the world b4 the WC!!!! and as for stern i dont think u should complain... although he didnt put away his chances he still got alotta them and tended to be in the best positions we got throughout the game

And what does that mean exactly about he got alot of chances and was in the best positions,look here me out here the best defense is a great offense and if yuh ent scoring,get somebody-else to do it.

I here man saying he go score in the world cup,he go light it up,and this is all based upon what he has accomplished against what mostly mediocre opposition,it's not to say we play shit and win,we play shit and lose,so there goes the saying out the door,the ugliest of wins is better than the prettiest of lorses.

And in the end how much chances  does one need to prove himself worthy of the praise given to him.........        
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on May 31, 2006, 06:30:24 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: daryn on May 31, 2006, 06:34:59 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Storeboy on May 31, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
All ah you just shut up and give the boys a break!  An anyone who think that going to the 2nd round was a certainty and that because they lose all of a sudden they can't play are the ones who need the bull pistle.  They go do deh best and we go still root for them.  They belong to us!  Go Warriors!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: #8 on May 31, 2006, 06:40:58 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

well said  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on May 31, 2006, 06:48:07 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

Cheyenne dred... you know im a big Stern supporter too... but the man should have finished 3 of his 3 chances... and Kenwyne is the future... he is a raw talent yes... but he has the most potential out of all our other strikers.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Marcos on May 31, 2006, 06:54:45 PM
It is not the result that bothers me.

It is the performance or rather lack thereof that needs work.

I am simply of the view we are not ready.

I more than anyone else want TT to win some games and advance.

But I cannot see it happening with that brand, that defence and that striker.

I just dont want us be embarrassed when we play our three games.

Lemme not call no names...........but some of alyuh posters gettin orn like a person who boil a pot of white rice, put orn a pair brown shades and eating it and bawling the pelau tasting good.

Face the reality and doe let the patriotism goggles blind yuh.

We in white rice mode and we ent eating nice atall.





Watch d side Beenie play.
Yorke in d back.
You really tink u can judge our performance from that?
No way.
All this is training. Allyuh gettin frustrated for nuttin.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2006, 06:57:23 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  


ok fair enuff.....   Started as ST against USA ...0 goals

                         Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals

                        Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals

                         Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals

                         Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal

                         Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals

                         Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals

                          Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
 
                           Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal

                           Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals


As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!
 
 
 
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on May 31, 2006, 06:59:06 PM
ok fair enuff.....   Started as ST against USA ...0 goals

                         Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals

                        Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals

                         Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals

                         Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal

                         Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals

                         Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals

                          Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
 
                           Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal

                           Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals



AS a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!


Cheyenne dred... he is young and unpolished of course he isnt going to be a huge goal socring phenom from the get go... yuh have to have patience... he is plenty younger than Stern and is much more so the "future" of our football... If Stern was fit like Yorke i would agree that he could still make another world cup but unfortunately he isnt...


so dont always judge the man by his stastics.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on May 31, 2006, 06:59:45 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Right now ah sure yuh have real waggonist searching google to figure out who is #14

LOL!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: pass(10trini) on May 31, 2006, 07:06:50 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

Wey you feel it is????  Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.

As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on May 31, 2006, 07:09:00 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

I was in a self imposed silence since the Arsenal game, but I real vex with this side.

It is painfully obvious we ent beating nobody with that brand we playing and what is worse is we get three from a shit side.

Slovenia ent play nuttin and alyuh just looking for excuse.......

I realise many of you all didnt see the 1st half as the stream wasnt running then.

If you did, you woulda see how we didn't have a clue..........that first goal 7 men in our area vs 3 clueless TT defenders.

Yorke playing first stopper and we just ent have a clue going fwd.

We couldnt come out our half for the first 20 min .

The second goal shaka do shit and a man tuck it in.

But I notice alyuh ent talk about the man who for me was the Goat of the game.


This #14 fella.


Who making excuse for he today.

#14 Get this in yuh head and all the other men on the field......

....  
.
OK fair enough.... How many goals does Yorke have again? 15? That's it??  With Latapy in the area all these 20 years and he only has 15 goals?  
Stern is a boss.  
If Stern was mess, then Yorke should have compensated - but quite FRANKLY he CAN'T.
Stern has over 4 times the goals of Yorke, and over twice the goals of Latapy.  Right now Brazil has only produce ONE player that has more goals than Stern.  One man can't do everything, let Yorke shoot instead of doing a pass to Stern in the penalty box (in the first half) that Stern has to twist to shoot.  Let ANYBODY, for that matter score more than Stern over 20 10 matches and I will rest my case.

You know what?!!  Beenhakker should have really rested Stern in that Guatemala game... All you #14 people would be cussing praising Yorke ::)
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: arrow on May 31, 2006, 07:09:35 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

It's ok if you want to keep supporting #14 blindly, after all even the coach of our national team doesn't seem to know how to differentiate a good striker from one who purging regular.  But Jones aint no shithoud.

How many of those 15 games has Jones actually started and played a full 90?
How many of those games did he start at striker? (BSC had him playing right wing back in the earlies)
How many games did he play against the Caribbean minnows in Shell Cup to pad his stats?

Anyway its not Stern's fault nah.  It's Beenie who insists on playing him a full 90 EVERY f*cking game when men like Glen can't even get a 10 minute run to prepare to face some of the best defenders in the world.
Even BSC would have been embarrassed to be associated with Beenie's decisions in this match - 10 DAYS BEFORE THE WORLD CUP!!
Cyd playing center back when he's played right back all his life
Edwards playing right back when he's probably our most creative player going forward
Sancho benching when he's our next most accomplished backup central defender and he's short on int'l match practice
Yorke our best midfielder who's played striker all his life, marshalling the back line
Stern playing a full 90 regardless of anything and everything that transpires on the field

Anyway no sense complaining...allyuh like it so!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2006, 07:13:16 PM
Started as ST against USA ...0 goals

                         Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals

                        Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals

                         Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals

                         Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal

                         Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals

                         Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals

                          Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
 
                           Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal

                           Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: daryn on May 31, 2006, 07:14:56 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  


ok fair enuff.....   Started as ST against USA ...0 goals

                         Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals

                        Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals

                         Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals

                         Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal

                         Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals

                         Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals

                          Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
 
                           Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal

                           Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals


As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!
 
 
 


ok, just for argument's sake (I done after this because I can't change Beenie mind and I feel Stern due for a scoring spree), over that time period you listed there Stern play 19 games by my count (10 in the Hex, 3 in the GC, 2 against Bahrain and 1 each against Iceland, Wales, Austria Wien and Slovenia, correct me if I'm wrong) and scored 5 in the Hex (1 in each game against Panama, 2 against Guatemala and 2 against Mexico), 1 against Slovenia and 1 against Wales for a total of 7 goals in those 19 games.  Now is that really so much better than 3 in 15 when Stern starting all the time and Kenwyne come on as a sub in 6 of his 15 games?

edit: 1+1+2+2 = 6 goals in the Hex, so I apologize for my poor algebra.  So 8 goals in 19 games, is a reasonable return as a standalone statistic.  I'll leave it to others to decide if it's reasonable in context (quality of opposition etc)
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on May 31, 2006, 07:17:07 PM
Small Mag

I have resigned myself to seeing Stern start every match and I accept that he is our #1 Striker.

But When he play shit I calling him out.......same way I will applaud him if he do good.

I just want the man score.....thats all.

If is tough love he need and he cuss we as fans after he score like in the Guatemala game thats no scene....but just score the government ball nah man.

I never see a set of men defend a shit performance like alyuh on this site....and turn and twist it round all how and look to call man waggonist and naysayers and all kinda ting when all we simply want is the team to play better.

I was silent before but I go start back posting...I going and rile up alyuh tail here on this board.

Alyuh does accept mediocrity......... but not me...I want and I expecting more from this side....and I havent even set meh standards too high....I know full well what we are capable or not capable of.

As I will repeat again...........I ent mind we lorse a game........but it is the performance that matters.........TT not performing.

All d training game and beenie experiementing comment etc...is alyuh way of shutting out reality, of providing a lil sense of mental comfort so alyuh could sleep good at night.

Lemme tell alyuh something.....I doe be surprised when TT lorse a game.....I does be surprised we win.....and this side ent do nuttin yet to change my perception of this team.

But I wishing them all the best, may they put they best foot fwd and I hope #14 find the back of the net in the three games that count.


 
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on May 31, 2006, 07:17:26 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  


ok fair enuff.....   Started as ST against USA ...0 goals

                         Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals

                        Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals

                         Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals

                         Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal

                         Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals

                         Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals

                          Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
 
                           Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal

                           Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals


As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........

Thanks for bringing the point out loud and clear!  But let's take it further.

Celebrity Yorke has 15 from 51 games playing as a striker - and that is counting the 2 he scored against Iceland!  Do you really think that he would have survived another international team with that record?  HELL NO!
Stern worked his way up and nobody is a better striker than him - not Kenwyne, not Samuel, not Latapy (although he is not a striker), and SURE AS HELL NOT Yorke.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: daryn on May 31, 2006, 07:20:23 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

Wey you feel it is????  Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.

As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.


with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now. 
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on May 31, 2006, 07:20:38 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  


ok fair enuff.....   Started as ST against USA ...0 goals

                         Started as ST against Guatemala ...0 goals

                        Started as ST against Atlanta Silverbacks..... 0 goals

                         Started as ST against Alianza Lima......0 Goals

                         Started as ST against Bermuda......1 Goal

                         Came on as ST against Panama......0 Goals

                         Came on as ST against Honduras(gold cup)....0 Goals

                          Came on as ST against Panama (gold cup).....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against USA.....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Panama....0 Goals

                           Came on as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Bahrain....0 Goals

                           Started as ST against Peru.... 1 Goal
 
                           Started as ST against Austria Wien...1 Goal

                           Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals


As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........

Thanks for bringing the point out loud and clear!  But let's take it further.

Celebrity Yorke has 15 from 51 games playing as a striker - and that is counting the 2 he scored against Iceland!  Do you really think that he would have survived another international team with that record?  HELL NO!
Stern worked his way up and nobody is a better striker than him - not Kenwyne, not Samuel, not Latapy (although he is not a striker), and SURE AS HELL NOT Yorke.

wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Trinimassive on May 31, 2006, 07:20:56 PM
Stern is STILL the most prolific striker we have. The man score in the last game and nobody have nuttin to say bad about him.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: arrow on May 31, 2006, 07:21:29 PM
                          Started as ST against Wales .... 0 Goals

As a Striker Kenwyne Jones has scored 3 goals in 15 games........ Yeh but he is so much better than Stern John and uis the future of TnT football....Yeh Effing Rite!

Ummm no Jones played on the wings against Wales...and he was a sub in 6 games...and he was playing WITH STERN in most of the other games so he was getting NO HELP or passes or set ups from his fellow striker who only standing around begging for the ball and cussing man if they pass it to Jones
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on May 31, 2006, 07:23:47 PM
Trinimassive the man play real real lala in the last game too.

Is because he score he get away from talk.


Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: #8 on May 31, 2006, 07:24:01 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

It's ok if you want to keep supporting #14 blindly, after all even the coach of our national team doesn't seem to know how to differentiate a good striker from one who purging regular.  But Jones aint no shithoud.

How many of those 15 games has Jones actually started and played a full 90?
How many of those games did he start at striker? (BSC had him playing right wing back in the earlies)
How many games did he play against the Caribbean minnows in Shell Cup to pad his stats?

Anyway its not Stern's fault nah.  It's Beenie who insists on playing him a full 90 EVERY f*cking game when men like Glen can't even get a 10 minute run to prepare to face some of the best defenders in the world.
Even BSC would have been embarrassed to be associated with Beenie's decisions in this match - 10 DAYS BEFORE THE WORLD CUP!!
Cyd playing center back when he's played right back all his life
Edwards playing right back when he's probably our most creative player going forward
Sancho benching when he's our next most accomplished backup central defender and he's short on int'l match practice
Yorke our best midfielder who's played striker all his life, marshalling the back line
Stern playing a full 90 regardless of anything and everything that transpires on the field

Anyway no sense complaining...allyuh like it so!!

arrow for president... :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:

#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on May 31, 2006, 07:27:35 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

It's ok if you want to keep supporting #14 blindly, after all even the coach of our national team doesn't seem to know how to differentiate a good striker from one who purging regular.  But Jones aint no shithoud.

How many of those 15 games has Jones actually started and played a full 90?
How many of those games did he start at striker? (BSC had him playing right wing back in the earlies)
How many games did he play against the Caribbean minnows in Shell Cup to pad his stats?

Anyway its not Stern's fault nah.  It's Beenie who insists on playing him a full 90 EVERY game when men like Glen can't even get a 10 minute run to prepare to face some of the best defenders in the world.
Even BSC would have been embarrassed to be associated with Beenie's decisions in this match - 10 DAYS BEFORE THE WORLD CUP!!


You can't be serious.  BSC WATCHING the world ON TV, he could ever be embarrassed about Beenie's decisions?  
You know I never heard anyone complain about Yorke's scoring record?  Every time he came to T&T everyone was praising him up.  Eh score one goal, but nobody was bad talking him...while Stern scoring left right and center at the same time.
Now we lost a game and is the same "drop Stern John" attitude all over again - now blaming Beenhakker and all.  You know what should have really happened??!! Beenhakker should have dropped YORKE after the 0 impact performance in this AND the last game.  ooops! I shouldn't have said that eh?? huh?  Edwards played WAY better than Yorke today.

Now I am not saying this because I have anything against Yorke.  I am simply alerting you to the lop-sided thinking that I am constantly hearing on this forum.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Source on May 31, 2006, 07:30:19 PM
We playing dead to ketch corbeaux  alive   ;D  Palos like you vex man. Maybe it's time to bring back you song " you looking for licks"
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on May 31, 2006, 07:33:41 PM
well since we lose 2 game and men calling to drop stern, we might as well drop d whole defence, call up julius james, and derek king since dem is we future.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on May 31, 2006, 07:39:34 PM
wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record?  What is Stern's?  Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club?  How many of those goals can help T&T win a game?  IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.

Who has the better scoring record for T&T?  Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)?  The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
JEFFERZ, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.

Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: supporter on May 31, 2006, 07:41:03 PM
absolutely agre with touches. brilliant post. Its time to wake up. BENCH STERN, lets see KENWYNE, aAT LEEAST DAT MAN WILL RUN!

and no, dont call me fickle, call me fed up! its a week to go and this is how we're preparing??
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2006, 07:43:52 PM
absolutely agre with touches. brilliant post. Its time to wake up. BENCH STERN, lets see KENWYNE, aAT LEEAST DAT MAN WILL RUN!

and no, dont call me fickle, call me fed up! its a week to go and this is how we're preparing??

boy allyuh are some rell c**tholes in truth boy
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: supporter on May 31, 2006, 07:47:17 PM
you know i could give a shit about stern's scoring record. We need all the legs and men running as we can get for these games. Stern wont run and hes in one of his infamous cold snaps. So give me KENWYNE and let that man run and power a hheader or two
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: doc on May 31, 2006, 07:50:05 PM
wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record?  What is Stern's?  Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club?  How many of those goals can help T&T win a game?  IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.

Who has the better scoring record for T&T?  Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)?  The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.

Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.

For the statisticians, let's see the breakdown for the games that they played together as strike partners.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on May 31, 2006, 07:51:44 PM
wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record?  What is Stern's?  Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club?  How many of those goals can help T&T win a game?  IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.

Who has the better scoring record for T&T?  Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)?  The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.

Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.

For the statisticians, let's see the breakdown for the games that they played together as strike partners.

Palos, if you can, get us these stats please.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: pass(10trini) on May 31, 2006, 08:01:05 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

Wey you feel it is????  Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.

As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.


with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now. 

So den you sayin Kenwyne is de man fuh de job den ?
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: MEP on May 31, 2006, 08:09:22 PM
Touches....ah understand your angst and pain but I'm operating under the theory that Beenhaker knows what he is doing...that doesn't mean that #14 should muff his chances....but I think and I'm telling myself that I have to believe this.... is that Beenie working on certain aspects of the game.....I only saw the 2nd half but looking at #19 playing almost a stopper like position tells me he working on bits and pieces. I think his strategy is ..if they don't know what to expect then they won't know how to prepare....seems as if he is using this element of surprise if that is the case to go for an all out win in the first game.
The only evidence I have to support my theory is that the first thing he instilled in the team when he took over was discipline...I saw none of that today...ah jes hope meh theory right if not ah go find out in 10 days time.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: daryn on May 31, 2006, 08:14:09 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

Wey you feel it is????  Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.

As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.


with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now. 

So den you sayin Kenwyne is de man fuh de job den ?

I am saying that your argument, as I understood it, doesn't hold water. If I understand correctly, you are saying that 1) Kenwyne should work his ass off for a break and 2) Stern has the right to be there because he used to score in the past.  It seems to be that those two things are contradictory in spirit.  One is valuing hard work and the other is implying it is ok to rest on your laurels.  Notice I am not saying that Stern is resting on his laurels, I can't read anybody mind.  That is just how I interpreted your post.

In an earlier post, I mentioned that I personally would have liked to have seen Scotland get a decent opportunity at some point.  As an illustration of my thinking: for the first 3 (USA, Gaut, CR) games of the Hex Stern was scoreless, and then after scoring against Panama, he went 5 games without scoring (Mexico, 3 GC games and USA), has Scotland ever been afforded a stretch of 5 consecutive scoreless games, or a stretch where he scored 1 goal in 9 games? 

Anyhow, like Touches said Stern is probably going to be the man on the field come June 10th, so best of luck to him.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: pass(10trini) on May 31, 2006, 08:31:31 PM
I am a huge Stern John fan  but today he shoullda finish 1 of the 3....


still he is 100000000 times better than "the socalled furture" kenwyne jones hoo 2 me is a shithound

was it now like 2 goals in 15caps

when you f**king reach 65 in 93 den you cud start till den

to all you forumites take a royal f**k off

if you going to talk about how much goals Jones score in his 15 games then you have to talk about how much of those caps he get playing midfield and defence and then after that you have to talk about how much games he only get to come on as a sub later in the game.

If Stern is the man getting pick every game, and he playing whole game for the most part, none of the other forwards will have as much goals as him.  It would be good to see Scotland get a decent opportunity.  

Wey you feel it is????  Yuh feel stern get orn de team jes so one day????? Is de lil opportunity he get on TNT team from de early days ah Yorke and Latas dat bring he here today. De lil 20, 30 minutes he get in dem matches he was bussin net dat bring he to be de most lethal attacker we have today . Man doh jes get freeco ting jes so brudda an doh have to earn dey keep. Work yuh ass off and wait for de day you get ah break.

As is right now nobody scoring regularly odder dan stern.


with all due respect, what Stern was doing in the 20, 30 minutes he was getting back in the day have surprisingly little to do with who is the best man for the job now. 

So den you sayin Kenwyne is de man fuh de job den ?

I am saying that your argument, as I understood it, doesn't hold water. If I understand correctly, you are saying that 1) Kenwyne should work his ass off for a break and 2) Stern has the right to be there because he used to score in the past.  It seems to be that those two things are contradictory in spirit.  One is valuing hard work and the other is implying it is ok to rest on your laurels.  Notice I am not saying that Stern is resting on his laurels, I can't read anybody mind.  That is just how I interpreted your post.

In an earlier post, I mentioned that I personally would have liked to have seen Scotland get a decent opportunity at some point.  As an illustration of my thinking: for the first 3 (USA, Gaut, CR) games of the Hex Stern was scoreless, and then after scoring against Panama, he went 5 games without scoring (Mexico, 3 GC games and USA), has Scotland ever been afforded a stretch of 5 consecutive scoreless games, or a stretch where he scored 1 goal in 9 games? 

Anyhow, like Touches said Stern is probably going to be the man on the field come June 10th, so best of luck to him.


All I'm saying is dat Beenie know de man is class and when we back up against de wall who is de one many ah time dat come through fuh we. Is not now man man have been say to drop stern...But doesn't he come around and shut everybody mouth after all de tongue lassin he get.

Ah see everybody say how other players not gehin ah chance , but dat is untrue. Because all ah dem been getin dey chance in dey. Kenwyne consistently gets his chance on the team don't he. You say Scotland haven't been getting chances but he consistently was playing almost every match in the Qualies.

Is not that these guys not getting chances is jes dey haven't claimed dat place to be de nxt best option if Stern isn't there. That all.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Bourbon on May 31, 2006, 08:53:22 PM
yeh buh study dis........other than looking for oportune spaces to be......wha else does stern do?? De reason stern go get call out especially in a shit performance like dis is cause if you say you dey to put in goals......and yuh eh doing it.....or missing 90% of the time......in dat sense.....yuh eh pulling yuh weight as yuh should. If stern used to hustle like jones....quarter of the flack he getting now he wouldnt ah get. If you dey to put in chances.....yuh damn well better do it. Study how much of dem international goals stern get without somebody else putting in hard work.....den yuh realise someting. When de team plays shit.....by extension stern go play shit. If de team doh perform....stern go be starved up dey fuh service.....and even when he get a chance....yuh eh certain he go put it in. Yuh notice stern start to score when latas come back??? Why??? He wasnt getting service....and cyar do nutting to change it fuh heself.....so he just occupying space on de field. Which one you feel more risky......a striker that prone to getting starved......or one that go actually try and get tings to change?? I respect stern....buh unless things perfectly suited to him......he doh produce....and cannot change that. If you one dimensional like that....it come like yuh putting all yuh eggs in one basket.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: arrow on May 31, 2006, 08:58:29 PM
You say Scotland haven't been getting chances but he consistently was playing almost every match in the Qualies.
Is not that these guys not getting chances is jes dey haven't claimed dat place to be de nxt best option if Stern isn't there. That all.

a few sub appearances in the Hex hardly counts as playin almost every match
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: pass(10trini) on May 31, 2006, 09:02:03 PM
You say Scotland haven't been getting chances but he consistently was playing almost every match in the Qualies.
Is not that these guys not getting chances is jes dey haven't claimed dat place to be de nxt best option if Stern isn't there. That all.

a few sub appearances in the Hex hardly counts as playin almost every match

Arrow dem odder fellas been gettin play almost every match.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: pass(10trini) on May 31, 2006, 09:11:26 PM
yeh buh study dis........other than looking for oportune spaces to be......wha else does stern do?? De reason stern go get call out especially in a shit performance like dis is cause if you say you dey to put in goals......and yuh eh doing it.....or missing 90% of the time......in dat sense.....yuh eh pulling yuh weight as yuh should. If stern used to hustle like jones....quarter of the flack he getting now he wouldnt ah get. If you dey to put in chances.....yuh damn well better do it. Study how much of dem international goals stern get without somebody else putting in hard work.....den yuh realise someting. When de team plays shit.....by extension stern go play shit. If de team doh perform....stern go be starved up dey fuh service.....and even when he get a chance....yuh eh certain he go put it in. Yuh notice stern start to score when latas come back??? Why??? He wasnt getting service....and cyar do nutting to change it fuh heself.....so he just occupying space on de field. Which one you feel more risky......a striker that prone to getting starved......or one that go actually try and get tings to change?? I respect stern....buh unless things perfectly suited to him......he doh produce....and cannot change that. If you one dimensional like that....it come like yuh putting all yuh eggs in one basket.

Let me jes say dis........Ever since Stern geh de break foot in nottingham forest 5 or 6 years ago he isn't de same Stern ah remember long ago.

Imo I feel Beenie should gih Stern ah try from behind de stiker to see how he go do because dais wey Stern use to score goals from in de early's. I remember de days ah seein Stern runnnig through defenders at will from behind de first man. Dem was de days when Dwight and Latas did rule de area. To tell you de truth ah find Stern shouldn't be used as no post up man in the front cause dat is npt what made Stern de fearless striker he was. Many ah time dais when he did score is when he come deep in the midfield and work he way in. Coming at defenders was always his greatest asset not being post man. Actually dat was Dwight game .
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Patterson on May 31, 2006, 09:17:19 PM
Stern's goals
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html
or http://www.sternjohn.com/IternRec.htm


Caps Goals    Date      Venue          Opponent      Score  Competition   
                               
 1   1   1   15- 2-95   Port of Spain  Finland        2-1   
 2       1   29-11-95   Port of Spain  Norway         3-2   
 3   1   2    6- 3-96   Miami          Haiti          2-0
 4   1   3    2- 6-96   Port of Spain  Martinique     2-1   Caribbean 96 Sf
 5       3   15- 6-96   Santo Domingo  Dominican Rep. 4-1   World Cup
 6   3   6   23- 6-96   Port of Spain  Dominican Rep. 8-0   World Cup
 7       6    1- 9-96   Port of Spain  Costa Rica     0-1   World Cup Qualifier
 8       6   24-11-96   Port of Spain  USA            0-1   World Cup Qualifier
 9       6    8-12-96   Los Angeles    Guatemala      1-2   World Cup
10       6   21-12-96   Cartago        Costa Rica     1-2   World Cup Qualifier
11       6   23-11-97   Port of Spain  Jamaica        0-0
12   1   7   18-12-97   Fort de France Martinique     2-3
13   1   8    4- 1-98   Bridgetown     Barbados       1-0
14       8   21- 1-98   San Salvador   El Salvador    0-2
15       8   23- 1-98   Guatemala City Guatemala      1-3
16       8   28- 1-98   San Jose       Costa Rica     0-4
17   2  10    1- 2-98   Oakland        Honduras       3-1   Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
18      10    4- 2-98   Oakland        Mexico         2-4   Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
19   1  11   22- 7-98   Port of Spain  Antigua/Barb.  3-2   Caribbean 98 Rd 1
20   2  13   24- 7-98   Port of Spain  Martinique     2-1   Caribbean 98 Rd 1
21   4  17   26- 7-98   Port of Spain  Dominica       8-0   Caribbean 98 Rd 1
22   2  19   29- 7-98   Port of Spain  Haiti          4-1   Caribbean 98 Sf
23   1  20   31- 7-98   Port of Spain  Jamaica        1-2   Caribbean 98 Final
24   1  21   28- 3-99   Port of Spain  Jamaica        2-0
25   1  22    6- 5-99   Port of Spain  South Africa   2-0
26   1  23    3- 6-99   Port of Spain  Jamaica        1-0   Caribbean 99 Rd 1
27   1  24   11- 6-99   Port of Spain  Haiti          6-1   Caribbean 99 Sf
28   1  25   13- 6-99   Port of Spain  Cuba           2-1   Caribbean 99 Final
29   3  28    8- 9-99   Miami          Colombia       4-3
30   2  30   17-11-99   Tegucigalpa    Honduras       2-3
31      30    7- 5-00   Port of Spain  Haiti          3-1   World Cup Qualifier
32      30   19- 5-00   Port au Prince Haiti          1-1   World Cup Qualifier
33      30    8- 7-00   Port of Spain  Jamaica        2-4
34      30    3- 9-00   Port of Spain  Canada         4-0   World Cup Qualifier
35   1  31   25- 2-01   Grand Cayman   Cayman Isl.    3-0
36      31   28- 2-01   Kingston       Jamaica        0-1   World Cup Qualifier
37      31   24- 3-01   Port of Spain  Guatemala      3-1
38      31   28- 3-01   Alajuela       Costa Rica     0-3   World Cup Qualifier
39      31   25- 4-01   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-1   World Cup Qualifier
40   2  33   15- 5-01   Arima          Barbados       5-0   Caribbean 2001 Rd 1
41      33   17- 5-01   Port of Spain  Jamaica        2-1   Caribbean 2001 Rd 1
42   1  34   22- 5-01   Port of Spain  Cuba           2-0   Caribbean 2001 Sf
43      34   25- 5-01   Port of Spain  Haiti          3-0
44      34   10- 6-01   S.Francisco(P) Panama         0-0
45   1  35   16- 6-01   Port of Spain  Honduras       2-4   World Cup
46      35   20- 6-01   Boston         USA            0-2   World Cup Qualifier
47   2  37   23- 6-01   Prospect       Bermuda        5-0
48   1  38   30- 6-01   Port of Spain  Jamaica        1-2   World Cup
49      38    1- 9-01   Port of Spain  Costa Rica     0-2   World Cup Qualifier
50      38    5- 9-01   Mexico City    Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
51   1  39    7-10-01   San Pedro Sula Honduras       1-0   World Cup
52      39   11-11-01   Port of Spain  USA            0-0   World Cup
53   1  40   20- 1-02   Miami          Costa Rica     1-1   Gold Cup Rd 1
54      40   22- 1-02   Miami          Martinique     0-1   Gold Cup Rd 1
55   1  41   26- 3-03   Port of Spain  Antigua        2-0   Gold Cup Qualifier
56   1  42   28- 3-03   Tunapuna       Guadeloupe     1-0   Gold Cup
57   1  43   30- 3-03   Marabella      Cuba           1-3   Gold Cup Qualifier
58   2  45    3- 7-03   Port of Spain  Venezuela      2-2 
59      45   10- 9-03   Marrakesh      Morocco        0-2
60   1  46   31- 3-04   Cairo          Egypt          1-2
61   2  48   23- 5-04   West Bromwich  Iraq           2-0
62   1  49   30- 5-04   Edinburgh      Scotland       1-4
63      49    6- 6-04   Bacolet        N. Ireland     0-3
64   1  50   13- 6-04   Santo Domingo  Dominican Rep. 2-0   World Cup
65   1  51   20- 6-04   Marabella      Dominican Rep. 4-0   World Cup 
66      51   18- 8-04   Kingstown      St.Vincent/Gr. 2-0   World Cup
67   1  52    4- 9-04   Basseterre     St.Kitts/Nevis 2-1   World Cup
68   1  53    8- 9-04   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-3   World Cup Qualifier
69   2  55   10-10-04   Marabella      St.Kitts/Nevis 5-1   World Cup
70      55   13-10-04   Puebla         Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
71      55    1- 2-05   Port of Spain  Haiti          1-0
72   1  56    3- 2-05   Port of Spain  Haiti          2-1
73      56    6- 2-05   Scarborough    Haiti          0-1
74      56    9- 2-05   Port of Spain  United States  1-2   World Cup
75      56   26- 3-05   Cd. Guatemala  Guatemala      1-5   World Cup
76      56   30- 3-05   Port of Spain  Costa Rica     0-0   World Cup
77   1  57   25- 5-05   Port of Spain  Bermuda        4-0
78   1  58   27- 5-05   Marabella      Bermuda        1-0
79   1  59    4- 6-05   Port of Spain  Panama         2-0   World Cup
80      59    8- 6-05   Monterrey      Mexico         0-2   World Cup Qualifier
81      59    6- 7-05   Miami          Honduras       1-1   Gold Cup
82      59   10- 7-05   Miami          Panama         2-2   Gold Cup
83      59   12- 7-05   Miami          Colombia       0-2   Gold Cup
84      59   17- 8-05   East Hartford  United States  0-1   World Cup
85   2  61    3- 9-05   Port of Spain  Guatemala      3-2   World Cup Qual.
86      61    7- 9-05   San José       Costa Rica     0-2   World Cup Qual.
87   1  62    8-10-05   Cd. de Panamá  Panama         1-0   World Cup
88   2  64   12-10-05   Port of Spain  Mexico         2-1   World Cup Qual.
89      64   12-11-05   Port of Spain  Bahrain        1-1   World Cup Qual.
90      64   16-11-05   Manama         Bahrain        1-0   World Cup Qual.
91      64    1- 3-06   London         Iceland        2-0
92      64   10-05-06   Port of Spain  Peru           1-1

Total record

Matches  Won Draw Lost  For Against  Points  Percentage
    92    46  12   34   160 - 118      104     56.52

Types of Goals
                     Matches Goals   
Friendlies             31      23
World Cup Qualifiers   38      18
Gold Cup                7       3   
Gold Cup Qualifiers     3       3
Caribbean Cup          13      17

Total                  92      64
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Arazi on May 31, 2006, 09:25:54 PM
now for all d ppl who say kenweyne jones not getting a fair chance... let's look at his club record...
he played in the same division as stern last season, started the season with a settled place with his team unlike Stern, overall PLAYED MORE GAMES THAN STERN AND SCORED LEST THAN HALF THE GOALS STERN SCORED IN THE SEASON [bTRUE OR FALSE?][/b]
SHOULD WE START HIM OVER STERN????

now, as for all d peopl who say Stern dont do shit... in the Peru game, Latas throw away in d first mintue, who set him up, I GUESS IT WASN'T STERN JOHN?

in the wales game latas curl a shot wide, who set him, I GUESS IT WASN'T STERN JOHN CUZ ALL HE DOES DO IS THROW AWAY RIGHT???'

Stern John is not the best player to watch, he may not seem to be the most hardworking striker on teh team buh he is head and shoulders the best easily...

Now he play shit 2day, i eh go lie, buh i eh see the whole game, it's easy to say we should play somebody else, buh when he's on his game he's the best, it's a friendly not the end of the world, the whole team looked lackluster fromw hat i saw, buh we created chances and at least he got into positions to take dem, tho he didn't, let's see if we could move on from here...
i telling ppl i wouldn't know how well we'd do until saturday...



Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Preacher on May 31, 2006, 09:47:19 PM
Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level.  Latas missing to much too.  As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve.  He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple:  I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen.  Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan.  What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel?  Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off?  I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special.  T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise.  I feel so.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: marcus on May 31, 2006, 10:11:45 PM
TnT wagon hit ah speed bump and throw real man off dey. Damn that was hard to watch, but its even harder to read some of these post today. Like some man ready to sell dem ticket to Germany all kinda ah ting. Man cussing and complaining, is like ah who cuss more cares more mentality.

We lost 3-1 to Slovania, a team that beat Italy in WCQ. It have ah man yesterday who lost his chance to play in the world cup (spann) and he take it in a better stride. But we get our ass handed to us by a better side and the forum denegrates, with man fighting against man.

One man sounding as doh he proud that he always knew that Kenwyne is a shithound, that is nothing to be proud of bredda man. Another post dragging Bleeder thru de mud. I for one want the youths to do well, I want Stern to do well, I want us to do well. And I am pretty sure you want the same too, but emotions are hard to control.

That game was hard to watch and a poor performance overall. And everything is not well in TnT football camp, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I am not happy with how Stern and the defence played today, but hopefully they can learn from it in a short space of time.

Ya know..... de ting about a wagon is..... it slow!!!!!!  so when yuh fall off.....  just run real fast and jump back on again....



                                 IF

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

R. Kipling

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 31, 2006, 10:27:21 PM
i like de bull pistle  :devil:

  So, dize wha a bull pistle look like?!?  wheeeeeeeey, ah really did'n know what it look like even tho I felt one a long time ago when a police in San 'do hit meh wit one an ah end up runnin' full speed to de hospital to get treatment...........but de Doctor tell meh ah shoulda go San Fernando General Hospital, ah didn't have to run all de way to Port Of Spain.  I feel if yuh lash dem men wit DAT.......dey go beat Brazil an' all!!    ;D
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: ZionYouth on May 31, 2006, 10:52:43 PM
Touches u is someting else.. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: saga pinto on May 31, 2006, 10:53:24 PM
wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record?  What is Stern's?  Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club?  How many of those goals can help T&T win a game?  IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.

Who has the better scoring record for T&T?  Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)?  The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
JEFFERZ, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.

Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.


Well here's the million dollar question:After proving that stern is so much of better at striking for T&T how come they ent call out stern to play for man u or aston villa or blackburn rovers or lemme see hear taking sydney fc to a championship,and by the way the rest of the world Knows about dwight yorke ah never hear them talk about stern,maybe at times recently with lower league coventry,so it's not who striking more for T&T but who's the better overall player and my vote is:DWIGHT YORKE.    
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Cantona007 on May 31, 2006, 11:06:17 PM
I just find it hard to believe that people here are honestly believing in the "playing dead to catch cobbo" explanation. People, the team playing shyte, some of the players aren't good enough for this level, some players aren't pulling their weight. That's it!!! Blind faith in the coach ain't gonna cut it either. We would all like to believe that Beenie has a master plan but, with a little more than a week to go, things aint looking too bright.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: oconnorg on May 31, 2006, 11:31:36 PM
Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level.  Latas missing to much too.  As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve.  He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple:  I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen.  Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan.  What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel?  Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off?  I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special.  T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise.  I feel so.
you hit de nail on de head perfectly dey fadder..only thing is glen was really injured..but he's been fully fit since the day before de wales game...and after talking to de man tonight..I'm taking back everything i said in my earlier posts in this thread...Mr.Beenhacker you is really a boss..and last but not least  watch de drama come saturday :o

#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee

 

Care to expand on this.. PM me and give me de zeppo nuh..!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 06:28:16 AM
Time for Tough Love for #14

Bench He arse proper on Saturday vs Czech

Start Yorke upfront with Kenwyne.

Or Start Glenn and Scotland/Kenwyne.

Let him know he place

Let him know he hadda perform.


last thing....doe feel the Slovenia loss have me so.

Is every game we play Since Bahrain have me so.

Peru and Wales were both poor performances.

Imagine a no name striker who now start to play for Slovenia come and score a hatrick on we....and Slovenia ent play nuttin...no brand, no purpose, no knock.

In fact I vex alyuh ent see the first half....so yuh woulda understand where I coming from.


but anyhow watch and see.......TT go win or draw this game that we are supposed to lose.....fuss we roundabout.


If not we collecting more than 4 in this game.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: doc on June 01, 2006, 06:31:18 AM
Time for Tough Love for #14

Bench He arse proper on Saturday vs Czech

Start Yorke upfront with Kenwyne.

Or Start Glenn and Scotland/Kenwyne.

Let him know he place

Let him know he hadda perform.


last thing....doe feel the Slovenia loss have me so.

Is every game we play Since Bahrain have me so.

Peru and Wales were both poor performances.

Imagine a no name striker who now start to play for Slovenia come and score a hatrick on we....and Slovenia ent play nuttin...no brand, no purpose, no knock.

In fact I vex alyuh ent see the first half....so yuh woulda understand where I coming from.


but anyhow watch and see.......TT go win or draw this game that we are supposed to lose.....fuss we roundabout.


If not we collecting more than 4 in this game.

Like yuh cover all yuh bases dey pardnah ;D
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: ttcom on June 01, 2006, 06:33:24 AM
Does anyone have Stern's stats breckdown i.e. Goals against Mexico, USA, Costa Rico, (St Kitts,Antigua,St Lucia)?
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: kappy on June 01, 2006, 07:53:46 AM
I ain't go lie, that mortal combat anology was real funny :rotfl:

but seriously give d number 14 thing a rest, get over it. this so called worst thing in tugs is we best hope, so u might as well get used to it for now!!!
thanks
nonsense ... #14 is the only number we have tried in actual combat ... come on ... i go chip in tuh by de senna ... an ah know whey tuh get good shining bush
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Dutty on June 01, 2006, 08:17:02 AM
It have plenty men on here will eat dey words in due time

When dat time come
ah go re-post links and den provide ah BIG bottle ah matouks ketchup fuh dem to swallow de crow wit

Dats right matouks...ah wouldnt eevn spen de extra dollar and give yuh de option of ah bottle of Heinz
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 08:23:06 AM
That is quite alright...

In fact if that is what it takes to make them fellas play good I shoulda cuss them right tru.

If #14 need to read a 4cup from me to score a goal. I would pen some winners every day just to get him vex and inspire him to score.

I want the side do well...I want the man score....I want the defence to hold up.

But pampering them and acting like we doe have a problem doe wuk so with me.

BTW a stew crow and provison or a bake an fry crow does eat real good...I am eagerly awaiting

But Dutty...when yuh bring the ketchup make sure its not mabel please...and add some Royal Castle pepper sauce to it, thanks!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sammy on June 01, 2006, 08:29:25 AM
Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level.  Latas missing to much too.  As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve.  He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple:  I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen.  Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan.  What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel?  Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off?  I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special.  T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise.  I feel so.

Hey, most times i does just read and doh post...buh i have to agree with preacher .... look how Beenie rile up England saying how they is under acheivers etc...and now he have our players playing out of position and dis-organised.....maybe/ hopefully he just trying to fake them out...i know the commentator yesterday done get "fool" about we already.

I find Stern does throw way tooo much goals... i know he score most for us in the past, but he really needs to put away the few chances we may get against big sides like England Sweden etc.

Wha allyuh think about Carlos Edwards playing a more attacking role instead of the wing...? - taking on defenders with skill and speed and then shooting? He ever play a role like that b4?
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 08:40:27 AM
Touches yuh damn right if dat joker :joker: de put away he chances we coulda even win the match but de boy shitty! :bs:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: kappy on June 01, 2006, 08:46:21 AM
Touches point taken though, yuh have to score goals at this level.  Latas missing to much too.  As it relates to Beenie I honestly believe that Beenie have an ace up his sleeve.  He has too because our players aren't as good as our opposition. simple:  I feel Beenie's Ace is a feller called Cornel Glen. I feel he resting Glen on purpose to make him hungry and to surprise England because Rio can't run with Glen.  Since we don't have the players maybe we should have a plan.  What if nuttin ain't wrong with Dog knee or Cornel?  Would we be the first team to use the media to through teams off?  I'll beat that against Czech Beenie ent do nuttin special.  T&T team done pic fellas all this is mind games and exercise.  I feel so.
you hit de nail on de head perfectly dey fadder..only thing is glen was really injured..but he's been fully fit since the day before de wales game...and after talking to de man tonight..I'm taking back everything i said in my earlier posts in this thread...Mr.Beenhacker you is really a boss..and last but not least  watch de drama come saturday :o

#8..President Of De Glen For Goals Committee


#8 ... give we a bligh nah ... mankinda losing he mind here ... oh gawd pardna ... ah know dem E ppl and de swedes looking at we post tuh get info ... so yuh code put it in trini code ...nobody go know .... aaaaaahhhhhhhh
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Midknight on June 01, 2006, 08:53:47 AM
Does anyone have Stern's stats breckdown i.e. Goals against Mexico, USA, Costa Rico, (St Kitts,Antigua,St Lucia)?

http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html

Do the math yourself.  ;)

I had worked this out one day. His strike rate is something like 0.69 goals per match.

Against Non Concacaf opponents its 11 in 16 around 0.68 goals per match
 
Unfortunately Stern has never scored against the US (0 in 5) and hasn't been very good against against Costa Rica (1 in 5) (but very few Trinidadians have since the Strike Squad was dismantled). He didn't score against Mexico until these qualifiers (3 goals in 7 matches) but his record against Honduras is great (6 in 5 matches). he hadn't scored against Guatemala until this round either (2 goals in 5 games) and same goes for Panama (2 goals in 4 games), He's also yet to score against Canada (0 in 1)
and El Salvador (0 in 1)
Thats 14 in 28 - 50%

Against Caribbean opposition his strike rate is around 80% He's scored 4 in 8 against the Jcans, 3 in 3 against Cuba and 5 in 9 against Haiti. He's scored 3 in 2 against St. Kitts, 0 in 1 against St. Vincent, 4 in 4 against MArtinique, 3 in 2 against Barbados. His other Caribbean matches are Bermuda (4 in 3) and Cayman Islands (1 in 1), Dominican Republic (5 in 4), Antigua (2 in 2)

Thats phenomenal anyway you look at it. If you want you could probably pull out all his matches against european opposition (3 in 6) to make a point but number 14 is a goalscorer, however you take it.

He should be good for at least one goal, possibly 2 during the world cup if he plays all three matches bet on Paraguay because he seems to prosper against South American teams... (3 in 2 against Colombia, 2 in 1 against Venezuela)

One could make an argument about England being better than Northern Ireland and Sweden being better than Finland and PAraguay being better than Colombia, but you can only score against the teams you play. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Oh yes, he might actually need some help from his teammates ::)

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: FATZ on June 01, 2006, 09:04:13 AM
Oh ye of little or no faith, this is the same man who buss Mexico nets when the whole country was ponging him and he will be the same man to buss nets in the cup once he gets the chances and then it will be the same detractors who will be singing him the highest praises.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Observer on June 01, 2006, 09:13:03 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: FF on June 01, 2006, 09:14:27 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game

That Ship done leave de harbour!!  :o
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Midknight on June 01, 2006, 09:27:36 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game

you're right about ali daei but actually number 2 is ferenc puskas and number 3 is pele an number 4 is kocsis, a hungarian who scored 11 goals in the WC in 54...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Dutty on June 01, 2006, 09:30:58 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game

That Ship done leave de harbour!!  :o
:o  ;D
LAWD!! You does hit harder lash dan Stewie himself oui

AH bet yuh type dat wit ah British accent
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Observer on June 01, 2006, 09:41:51 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game

you're right about ali daei but actually number 2 is ferenc puskas and number 3 is pele an number 4 is kocsis, a hungarian who scored 11 goals in the WC in 54...

I am trying to make a point not lay out stats.  However, this is the information I have of all time top scorers in International Football. For your interest  http://www.answers.com/topic/top-international-goal-scorers
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: jose on June 01, 2006, 10:03:25 AM
i realise that some  men real biased,men arguing bout who score more goals  between yorke and stern and all kinda shit,but that is not the point.men saying stern have record and score so many goals a long time ago but the thing is we need to deal with the present and right now stern not cutting it,as touches said earlier stern not helping,maybe u all should rad the post again cause touches broke it down very well.u can not afford to throw away those kinda of goals in the world cup especially with the way our defense playing,maybe be if some one else get the oppurtunities stern does get he would of broken the record a long time ago.so i agree #14 is the worse ting in a tugs
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 01, 2006, 10:13:18 AM

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anytime he get ah dose ah dat
he good to go
some hot guiness and a young pineapple

if all that fail
carry him by where the river does meet the sea, put him to kneel down in the water and beat him with a coceyea broom


boy that bredda is real shit boy
me eh go lie
I see Wise whip a ball across the goal all he need to do was stick out he foot and the man jes watch it go by

I different to all yuh yes
I rather play with 11 Birchall and Jones than have Stern on meh side
Leh meh lose with 11 fighters than raise meh pressure with that fool on meh side




Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 10:36:19 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game



Is only we Trini's does find ah way to put down we heroes and of all the players we choose to dis is the one that holds the international scoring record for TnT, for those dat want to overlook his ranking in the world fine go ahead but as far as TnT concern he has de most goals.Nobody saying or comparing Stern to Pele buh as far as puting de ball in de back ah de net for TnT Stern has his ranking,does dat say Stern is better dan Pele? hell no,buh de record is wat it is .I eh care who say or tink wat buh dis is real without out Stern John goals we not qualifing for de WC say wat yuh want bout team game and is all 11 count I agree buh without Stern goals we eh going no wey. All ah the experts on here who feel dey know better dan beenie man only bumpin dey gum and hiding behind de fact dat 'they entitled to dey opinion and daiz true, dey entitle to it,buh is ah shame wen you cud only use dah opinion to talk bout when #14 have ah bad game...check dis out... how come we talk bout de posivitive bout de man eh ? like de left foot in Panama (1-0) and before de game pleanty man bawlin we gone thru we cyar qualify again, Stern John is ah dis and dat all kind ah negative ting.how come we eh takling bout de 2 against Hondurus,how come we eh takling bot the vicious left foot for de winner against mexico not to mention #14  cudda score at least 5 including de penalty he thro way.
Say what you want about #14 without dem goals we eh going  germany and daiz real.
Yow now is not de time to be putting down we players and talking bout when dis one throw way or dis one eh tackle or Shak eh good no more.....
we shud be proud ah these brothers proud ah wah dey accomplish for we as a nation,now eh time to find fault wit these brothers, now is time to rally and show yuh true colours,buh instead  some ah we still feel de best way to contribute is to puh down de players like dat go help and give dem de extra boost/support/confidence dey need.
IMO is de ones dat want to criticize de team, after all dey accomplish and take we to the WC, dem is de ones who 'people go look at as a real dunce in de game'.

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: maxg on June 01, 2006, 10:40:40 AM
Palos, over 2 years ago ah was chupid and ah mad man to see all this, up to pre last game...Now crunch time, ah sorry it have so much more chupid an mad ppl so...ah was hopin all this time ah was wrong....the man scores goals no denying that...but the man has not done the deed as he used to, and we cannot at this point depend on heart, gut, or even long term history, we have to go by performance....T&T must now be operating on all cylinders, not 10 of 11...but 23 on 23...it is our only hope...
I have ah ole coach here, and although he was rough as well as talented, although he is a cool and classy guy, and ah T&T football icon - he was never no best T&T representative....ah doh like the man any less, as yuh can tell by my eternal respect for him...
I repeat, before we go into this final stretch...John's role must change, like Yorke's, like Latapy, like Spann, or Wise, or everybody....BeenE is the man to decide how, but as the target striker alone, it has not happened for to long...he will score, cause he is Stern "bong to score" John, but coach and he have to set things in place that all the responsibilty is not on his back alone, cause as strong as dah horse is, he is not as young or totally healthy as he once was...

Remember years ago, I also said, I would rather not get to WC if we are to get there and be embarassed....Man say...nah WC is it...getting there go put we on the map...I said, if we go get there and be made to look like clowns, ppl will know us alright, but may think of T&T (in football circles ofcourse) as a clown factory, with an occassional blip like a Yorke, Latapy etc...It would not bode well for our game....Well, ah get good cuss for that one..... and still hope ah wrong....
but the truth is, ah doh care who play for we as long as they perform to the best of their ability or at least try...even if we are going to get sampat(sp) ah hope we go take it with every ounce of our being fighting against it...so we would be known to be warriors whether successful or not...come next wknd, these guys will represent what is T&T for the next
...til eternity...So all the Johns, Jacks and Jills better get they act together fast...cause since they choose to represent me, they chose to be Warriors...if not physical performance,complimentary results, at least  in Spirit
Title: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 10:48:24 AM
All yuh bump all yuh gum how much all yuh want without Stern John TnT eh going to germany and dat is the plain truth, try all yuh want to change it, say wat yuh want bout de man buh if Stern John doh score Trini doh win ,without him we was'nt going to no WC....stop hating and deal wid it
Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: oconnorg on June 01, 2006, 10:50:35 AM
Didnt need ah whole new thread for this tho. !
Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: FF on June 01, 2006, 10:52:01 AM
All yuh bump all yuh gum how much all yuh want without Stern John TnT eh going to germany and dat is the plain truth, try all yuh want to change it, say wat yuh want bout de man buh if Stern John doh score Trini doh win ,without him we was'nt going to no WC....stop hating and deal wid it

Aye go and read Ato post on de performance yesterday... de man is streaky and will put tears in allyuh eyes.... joy and sadness

High highs and Low lows with he yes! PRESSURE
Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 10:56:02 AM
All yuh bump all yuh gum how much all yuh want without Stern John TnT eh going to germany and dat is the plain truth, try all yuh want to change it, say wat yuh want bout de man buh if Stern John doh score Trini doh win ,without him we was'nt going to no WC....stop hating and deal wid it

Aye go and read Ato post on de performance yesterday... de man is streaky and will put tears in allyuh eyes.... joy and sadness

High highs and Low lows with he yes! PRESSURE

like how ato puh water in TnT eyes ....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 11:05:12 AM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 11:12:55 AM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.

Had Stern also converted all he chances we woulda be tru in the 2nd or third spot and not even play Bahrain.

When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert......for his sake and for the nation.

A created opportunity is nothing without the finish.

This is not the time for hard luck...better next time!

It is time to Deliver!......show we that yuh ready and show we yuh in form.

This is not only for Stern this is for every player on the side. get alyuh act together.

But Stern has been given the most amount of leeway....for want of a better word, given his performances.

If any other player were given the same opportunity he has to play shit and still know yuh starting next game yuh does ask yuhself what if?


Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 11:23:24 AM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert.




I agree he shud'nt take dar penalty buh why you choose to talk bout de miss penalty why yuh eh talk bout the 2 goals he score after dat for we to win,either yuh eh fair or yuh just eh like de man buh as far as scoring goals for Trinidad de best ting we have is Stern John and until another player comes along and do better Stern is de man.
p.s yuh also forget to mention he score twice in de last games ...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Hyperhot J on June 01, 2006, 11:26:54 AM
"This #14 come like the youth who playing mortal combat in the arcade and cyar beat the first opponent. He only wasting tokens, wasting tokens over and over and no amount of feeding getting him better."

AHHAHAHAHAHHHA AH Love it!!! (Sorry Andre Samuel).

And friggin Kenwyne just beat Street Fighter II with 1 coin that he sprang from a smally. (The original one with 8 players - that is the baddest) and put all kinda hand cuff move with Guile and thing, and now meh boy Jones waiting for lame John to beat Mortal Kombat I and John have 55 more coins and he still playing with Sub Zero and trying to play cheap by freezing and upper cutting and still losing in the first rounds and he losing to Sonya all the time!!! Ahahahhahahah I understand meh boy Touches!!!  ;D  :D

Jones and Scott just waiting with 1 coin between them to take turns mashing up people with Scorpion taking turns each round to easily conquer the game, but John's wealthy guardian Leo will not let them show their true talent and persists sponsoring John's coins!!!  :( :o

Ah don't love it!

J.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: supporter on June 01, 2006, 11:36:41 AM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert.



Oh Touches, Dont say such mean things! Dont you know Stern might come online, despite the fact hes got serious prepartions to perform, and read these comments with a tear in his eye?!

He will cry when he reads themm and it will hurt his feelings. We need to create an artificial world for our players where they can think they can play like shit and still get results! We have to be postivive!

Stern, you are the greatest footballer in the world. There, that should give him a boost to score a goal! Now lets go skipping in the garden and when results dont come during the WC, we will act stunned!  :rotfl:





STERN, GET IT TOGETHER, . Im pulling for you! (see, i kept it postitive at the end there!)
Bottom line is, Stern will hopefully come thru in the WC, but friendlies have a purpose, and its not to set yourself up for a cold snap.
Give KENWYNE a RUN. He will shine.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 11:37:53 AM
Alright lemme state meh stance once and for all.

I find Stern is a Shithound.

His past record means nothing to me.

I does get upset watching him throw away chances that men sweat they arse off to create.

I doe like he attitude on the field to he fellow players and to the fans.

I find like he does move like he doe try and he does be coasting in we national colours.

I find Stern even when he score doe be playing good and I wish he would work on other aspects of his game.

No one ever raise my pressure like he.....make me cuss like he.

It is because I so want him and the TT team to do well that I does get vex so.

That said....

He is our top scorer.

He have TT where we are.....and yes I am eternally greatful to him and his contribution.

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Hyperhot J on June 01, 2006, 11:38:30 AM
I loved your post supporter hahahahaha!! Let's all go skipping in the park hahahahah.

J.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: slates on June 01, 2006, 11:43:34 AM
I wonder if men really, really, really, really believe dat there is some kinda 'master plan" de coach could possibly reveal, to make dis team improve by the leaps and bounds it will require, to beat England and Sweden in the next couple weeks.

Men talk bout miracles and good luck. And I here wondering, where the hell is miracles and good luck when people starving to death all over the place and people gettin lick-up everyday. So why is de Trini football team so deserving dat miracles and good luck go suddenly spring to the rescue in the next couple weeks.

The fact is, this same team that lost to Wales and got ran over by Slovenia, would mash-up St. Vincent, Grenada and Panama. But the teams we tackling now, and the ones on our horizon, are not St. Vincent, Grenada and Panama. Hell, they even struggled with Bahrain. beenie man doh have no magic wand. De players he working with only have their current capabilities. This team could only do so good. Men here have taken into consideration that we qualified for the WC and used that fact to project expectations far beyond this team's capabilities. Oh gosh, just look at how we qualified nah. Yuh go see my point. this team coulda never, never, run with the world's elite teams, not even the world's mid-level teams. All yuh does call the US ah shit team, and we cyah even beat dem.

Dem fellas doing dey best out dey. What yuh seein is dey best. Accept it or not, dat is dey best. But doh matter what, is still we team. So f*ck it. Let we try and enjoy de ride regardless. Make noise and show we support. But we have lix to get.

Go ahead, call me ah waggonist. I doh give ah f*&k. I talkin de trute.  
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 11:51:49 AM
Alright lemme state meh stance once and for all.

I find Stern is a Shithound.

His past record means nothing to me.

I does get upset watching him throw away chances that men sweat they arse off to create.

I doe like he attitude on the field to he fellow players and to the fans.

I find like he does move like he doe try and he does be coasting in we national colours.

I find Stern even when he score doe be playing good and I wish he would work on other aspects of his game.

No one ever raise my pressure like he.....make me cuss like he.

It is because I so want him and the TT team to do well that I does get vex so.

That said....

He is our top scorer.

He have TT where we are.....and yes I am eternally greatful to him and his contribution.




yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 01, 2006, 11:53:43 AM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Doh take on dem men breda. I wonder if some of these does even think. I would concede that it never wise to blindly support anybody but it is even less wise to throw away silver because it is not gold. Let's put a few things into perspective. For all of the noise being made we seem to forget that this country only has 1.3 million people. We never qualified for the World Cup before 2005 and our pedigree in this, the WORLD'S Game has never been formidable. Perhaps flex or palos could help me out here but how many professionals do we have ,and how many of them are decent enough to play international football ? More specifically ,how many strikers do we have who can realistically perform well when we face Sweden, England and Paraguay. All kinds of crazy names can be generated form that question.

Here is my opinion. A coach with nothing short of a World Class CV and reputation came to this country with such limited human capital in comparision to most of the teams in the hex and moved this team from 1 point after 3 to 13 points after 10. Along the way there were no crazy names playing striker, there was only Stern John who scored 6 goals in 7 games. If this coach watching men in every training session could consistently pick you it is probably a good indication that you are most valuable player to your team in that position.

I've said it before and I'll say it again I don't even like the way Stern plays but the facts cannot escape my logic .THE MAN SCORES GOALS. Dem men who want to move Stern thinking in the wonderful world of if. The man is the leading goal scorer in the nation's history. He scored 90 % of all the clutch goals during qualifying and men still want to give him the axe. My God !
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 11:56:39 AM
Slates,

I like the post but I have to disagree with just one lil point.

THAT IS NOT THE BEST THEM FELLAS COULD PLAY.

All of them could give more, all of them could put out more and even if we get licks one they showing effort I go be happy.

Remember the 2-0 vs mexico and we was proud of the fellas....We could lose and keep we head high.

But we losing and yuh could see we playing tata.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 11:58:44 AM
So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?

Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:00:52 PM
Yeah but if he aint performing what are we suppose to do? :'(
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on June 01, 2006, 12:03:41 PM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.

Had Stern also converted all he chances we woulda be tru in the 2nd or third spot and not even play Bahrain.

When he get the 1 chance vs Robinson I hope he convert......for his sake and for the nation.

A created opportunity is nothing without the finish.

This is not the time for hard luck...better next time!

It is time to Deliver!......show we that yuh ready and show we yuh in form.

This is not only for Stern this is for every player on the side. get alyuh act together.

But Stern has been given the most amount of leeway....for want of a better word, given his performances.

If any other player were given the same opportunity he has to play shit and still know yuh starting next game yuh does ask yuhself what if?



u really blaming stern for us not making d 2002 WC?????????????????

im thinking  ur just a hater :-[
Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: fari on June 01, 2006, 12:04:19 PM
sprog that is the question of the day. 
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: SHOTTA on June 01, 2006, 12:05:22 PM
who else is going to score??

why didnt scotty score his??

why didnt collin score his in wales

why didnt jones score his in wales??

stern john is a god send to trinidad

no one supports him harder than me

i aint sayin he cudna a score dem chances but is it stern john againts slovenia of tnt vs slovenia

i go stay with his hold up play

his running into space

his immaculate touch

his poachers instinct any day befor i start sumone else

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:07:49 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: FF on June 01, 2006, 12:10:45 PM

So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.


Sprog ah go fawking dead!!  :rotfl:

Rubbish... Send she tail packing yes!! LOL
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 12:10:50 PM
So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?



I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on June 01, 2006, 12:12:53 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.

wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Arazi on June 01, 2006, 12:13:49 PM
it songs like the hex all over again, especialyy after we played the US....

i said it then and i say it now....

I BELIEVE IN STERN...

KENWEYNE JONES IS COSTUME JEWELLRY... he's not ready...

and touches what chances you tallking bout in 2002 qualifers... hoss our attack was extremely lackluster in dat hex, speaking of which i remember a certain shitsnake hitting a honduran a spanner den hitting it to the inside corner with his left foot for our only win of that tourney... ah well, we trinis have short memories...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: slates on June 01, 2006, 12:17:22 PM
[So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing . case close.


NAH!!!
I had to log back een for dat one.  :rotfl:
Ah could feel de venom with which dat statement is TYPED, like it happen for real  :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:19:31 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.

wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???


No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 01, 2006, 12:22:47 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.

I don't know how that analogy found its way into a football disscussion. None of the variables are compatible. You equate a national top scorer missing some chances and perhaps half chances in a friendly to woman horning a man and then you say, case close. Steups !
Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 12:23:12 PM
Yeah but if he aint performing what are we suppose to do? :'(
who not performing stern come nah man. if u was down ond e defense i mighter suport u but de man scoring allyuh cnat expoect him to score every chance he get no one does dat. the man scoring..we need other peope besides hima nd birchie to score regulalrly now and we defense to act liek that ah defense and nto like they selling guns



Organic yuh have 2 remember is Trinis yuh talking to, Stern have to score every match for dem or he eh good , and there are times he  does score every  match, like panama, hondurus and mexico buh when he eh score he's ah shithound yuh must realize we as Trinis doh recognize what we have until they gone we only know how to pong we own and doh know when to give praise.....we is de only nation dat qualify for de world cup and and finding fault with we team and putting dem down ...like we expect now we qualify we have to beat Brazil or we is shithounds all de time we just glad to qualify buh now people expect miracles and if dey doh happen we have ah shit team ..by some of the negative post on here yuh go tink TnT  better off not going to de WC ....only ah bunch ah negative vibes ...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Arazi on June 01, 2006, 12:23:40 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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but by essence what u saying is, that if a man play d worst game of his life despite having having pllayed exceptionally, head and shoulders above d rest of the team ( i not saying this is stern) and cuz he had one bad game yuh go buss he throat, hoss u tallk rel shit dey...
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.

wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???


No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
hoss so what u saying is if a man play d worst game of his life after playing d best in his team for d whole year he automatically getting drop ( i not saying this applys to stern..., hoss u talk shit dey....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:28:43 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.

I don't know how that analogy found its way into a football disscussion. None of the variables are compatible. You equate a national top scorer missing some chances and perhaps half chances in a friendly to woman horning a man and then you say, case close. Steups !

all yuh totally missing the point, i am saying gratitude and emotions should never be a factor when selecting and/or conducting an analysis on a football team. That is why Germany wise up now there want results so they had to remove Kahn as the number one keeper, Lehman better than him for a little while now but Kahn is the hero.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: slates on June 01, 2006, 12:29:25 PM
The title of the thread is NOT called for
if allya dont like how a player plays, could you have some CLASS in your critisism of that player who is wearing our National team Kit.
It makes me sad that we feel we have to drop to the lowest common denominator and come up with that title.
REALLY people have some CLASS. Come on allya really think that is OK ???

Well pardna, do I have some advise for you.
Get yourself a wad of tissue... and keep it close over the next few days... and weeks, becuz you will need it. It bout to RAIN sadness. :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 12:31:01 PM
So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?



I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....

Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.

Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.

Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.


Respectfully submitted.

Touches
Title: Re: #14 without him NO WC
Post by: doh_stick on June 01, 2006, 12:32:14 PM
Yeah but if he aint performing what are we suppose to do? :'(
who not performing stern come nah man. if u was down ond e defense i mighter suport u but de man scoring allyuh cnat expoect him to score every chance he get no one does dat. the man scoring..we need other peope besides hima nd birchie to score regulalrly now and we defense to act liek that ah defense and nto like they selling guns



Organic yuh have 2 remember is Trinis yuh talking to, Stern have to score every match for dem or he eh good , and there are times he  does score every  match, like panama, hondurus and mexico buh when he eh score he's ah shithound yuh must realize we as Trinis doh recognize what we have until they gone we only know how to pong we own and doh know when to give praise.....we is de only nation dat qualify for de world cup and and finding fault with we team and putting dem down ...like we expect now we qualify we have to beat Brazil or we is shithounds all de time we just glad to qualify buh now people expect miracles and if dey doh happen we have ah shit team ..by some of the negative post on here yuh go tink TnT  better off not going to de WC ....only ah bunch ah negative vibes ...

All I want is de boys to go out have heart and do their best.Thus far in the friendlys we have not seen it.(I know experimenting etc but de concentarion lapses should not be there at this stage).
Yes we might hold some licks if we play our best but at least we will get respect from the rest of the football world etc and de fellahs could hold dey head high..talk done
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on June 01, 2006, 12:32:33 PM
[yuh call de man a shtihound buh yet still yuh eternally gratefull make up yuh mind .Ah rather have a man dat does throw way some and score some dan a player dat doh score at all and bottom line is Stern does score ..now is time to appreciate not to hate all who want to hate do it after de WC... ah know some ah all yuh cyar wait for we to fail to jump on Stern case and say  Stern dis and Stern dat buh all yuh shud  at least give de brother praise and his just due for getting us to dis far.Next 50 years I guarantee yuh when dey talk bout this team Stern John name will be the name mention as de one that took TnT to their 1st WC.....doubt dat nah!!!!
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.

wow, that is most piece of sh*t i ever heard. so when u at work an u have one bad day, im guessing u expecting to get fired???


No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
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Im not going to lie that is a very  good point.But d fact of the matter is that stern is the best we have, trinidad is not real madrid, we dont have no robhino on d bench waiting to come on. we have jones and he not ready yet. also y is men calling for stern to bench when he have a bad games an no one calling  on andrews or any of the other defenders to bench, we have to be one of the weakest defences in d world cup. if u want to critcize be fair dont single out one man
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Benchwarmer on June 01, 2006, 12:33:37 PM
Alright lemme state meh stance once and for all.

I find Stern is a Shithound.

His past record means nothing to me.

I does get upset watching him throw away chances that men sweat they arse off to create.

I doe like he attitude on the field to he fellow players and to the fans.

I find like he does move like he doe try and he does be coasting in we national colours.

I find Stern even when he score doe be playing good and I wish he would work on other aspects of his game.

No one ever raise my pressure like he.....make me cuss like he.

It is because I so want him and the TT team to do well that I does get vex so.

That said....

He is our top scorer.

He have TT where we are.....and yes I am eternally greatful to him and his contribution.



that is a good post... i would go as far to say that he is a shithound . but o gorm man.....give jones the chance... i reading man saying jones is a shit hound...... :o   what part... jones could play every position on the field. the man is a boss....

it is hurt me to watch matches where John not running and if yuh doh put the ball to he foot.. he done play.....i thought that was over in the mexico game.. but it like it come back.
No matter how many goals the man score... he not performing like he want to add to that total .. so show him.. let someone else try...if they throw way.. that suppose to hurt him from the bench when he see it. How alyuh go follow a player blindly...."well he have so many goals so he hadda be we saviour"        them goals he score in Gold Cup and Shell Cup  in 9? mean nuthin now... how many he score against Jamaica and cuba or even the US mean nuthin......if yuh not performing, give many chances presently, give another the SAME oppotunity, not 30 mins less or as a left wing or withdrawn striker.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 12:34:41 PM
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 12:35:08 PM
WestCoast if yuh offended by the title....yuh shoulda read meh match report bout yuh player a few months ago...complete with toilet, snake and goat images.

Check the archives nah see what yuh dig up.

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:35:31 PM
i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: prodigy23 on June 01, 2006, 12:39:33 PM
i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.



true. but its more frustrating when guys here single out one guy for d failure of d 23 man  TEAM.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:39:54 PM
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Look who going off the point now, I with my girl eleven years now and i aint get no horn  :clown:at least that i know about and infact Stern did try to lime mih girl ah time in ah club but he get blank, whan he start playing in the premiership i laugh she and tell she is best she de lime with the man, but that is besides the point. :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 12:41:28 PM
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Look who going off the point now, I with my girl eleven years now and i aint get no horn  :clown:at least that i know about and infact Stern did try to lime mih girl ah time in ah club but he get blank, whan he start playing in the premiership i laugh she and tell she is best she de lime with the man, but that is besides the point. :rotfl:


just kidding Sprog  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:41:41 PM
i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.



true. but its more frustrating when guys here single out one guy for d failure of d 23 man  TEAM.

Yuh need to read other threads, men real pound some of them other fellas like Cyd, Lawrence, Dwight and all.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:43:02 PM
So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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Sprog ah really sorry yuh geh butt in the 5th year buh yuh getting off de topic we eh trying to hear bout yuh love life dat eh ha nuttin to do wid wha we talking bout ....ah hope Stern is not de man dah give yuh de horn and daiz why yuh doh like him.....no wonder yuh doh like he scoring record l: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Look who going off the point now, I with my girl eleven years now and i aint get no horn  :clown:at least that i know about and infact Stern did try to lime mih girl ah time in ah club but he get blank, whan he start playing in the premiership i laugh she and tell she is best she de lime with the man, but that is besides the point. :rotfl:


just kidding Sprog  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Ah know brother i could take mih talks :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 01, 2006, 12:46:07 PM
i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.



So sprog you was playing devil's advocate all this time ? It sounding like a cop out to me.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:48:20 PM
The man real good and dat is why he does get me so vex, i find he could run off the ball a bit more, tidy up he finishing and we good. Early this season i think it may be when he was on loan the fans of the club i think it might be Derby County was booing him  because of his perfomances and what appeared to be a lazy work rate. What is the saying again " ten thousand frenchmen could never be wrong."
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 12:51:14 PM
So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?



I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....

Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.

Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.

Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.


Respectfully submitted.

Touches


Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:52:52 PM
i think you guys have it wrong, you ever notice that the people that can anger you the most is the ones you love and care for the most, well its like that for us and the team. We know what they are capable of individually and as a team so when we see lacklustre performances like yesterday we feel hurt but not just hurt, deeply hurt. So we love our team and all pray for success at the WC but you cant help but feel frustrated when you seeing the same mistakes which have been posted on this forum a many a times.



So sprog you was playing devil's advocate all this time ? It sounding like a cop out to me.

Trust me i love debating and i believe i made my case but once again emotion has blinded you'll from seeing my point, which still remains. I never questioned his ability, i am questioning his current performances and recommending although its probably too late for that, but if Beenie had at least made him feel his starting position was under threat, we would have seen the Stern John we all love.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 12:53:45 PM
So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?



I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....

Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.

Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.

Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.


Respectfully submitted.

Touches


Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 01:14:14 PM
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Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.

Nobody denyin the man is not one of the keys to our success Berris...but since he playing a pile.......

Breds I eagerly await this true knowledge of the game that you possess.
and as for Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and anyone else who is visually impaired.

Thank yuh blessings yuh never see a Stern John throw away....... because yuh pressure might raise and heart might fail yuh after.

BTW, Berris....give it up nah, nuttin you type here, could sway me from my view that Stern is a pothound who does throw away.

Cool scene, we go agree to disagree.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: kappy on June 01, 2006, 01:24:18 PM
So berris why I cyar be greatful to a shithound?



I eh say yuh cyar be gratefull to ah shithound buh ah guess yuh have to be a shithound to be be gratefull to one .....

Try and doe lump me and Stern in the same boat please......thanks.

Berris if Stern is yuh Boy...If you is Stern posting under the handle Berris. If yuh is he family or friend.

Just let him know for me he playing shit and he have to take his chance when it comes.


Respectfully submitted.

Touches


Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.

I not to sure bout dat nah ... an iz not becasue he playi a pile ah tata ... is because de will get mark outta de game ... an don't have the aggression tuh break free ... if he jus drop back fuh de ball little bit it go be harder tuh mark de man ... but he only want ball to he foot ...he hatta pick up he work rate ... he hatta play like he vex ... an like he know Beenie go bench him becasue the forumites done talk
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 01, 2006, 01:25:14 PM
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Touches Stern eh have to be meh boy or family or anything to me for me to say wha ah saying buh anybody wid true knowledge of de game know Stern John is the best chance we have to score a goal in the WC, de best chance to get a win and even Ray Charles cud see dat,doh be blinded.

Nobody denyin the man is not one of the keys to our success Berris...but since he playing a pile.......

Breds I eagerly await this true knowledge of the game that you possess.
and as for Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and anyone else who is visually impaired.

Thank yuh blessings yuh never see a Stern John throw away....... because yuh pressure might raise and heart might fail yuh after.

BTW, Berris....give it up nah, nuttin you type here, could sway me from my view that Stern is a pothound who does throw away.

Cool scene, we go agree to disagree.

Touches I eh trying to convince you or anybody bout Stern , everyone entitled to their opinion and I have seen Stern play i've seen him both throw way and score but the memories of his performance is a good one for me because all the goals finally pay off and now we where we never dream we cud get too the WC and for dat I respect the whole team especially Stern and he has to get meh praises ...somebody have to recognizse he's we best goal scorer ever TnT ever had,that must say something bout de man....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 01, 2006, 01:31:37 PM

It isn't that they can't see the solution.  It is that they can't see the problem.  ~G.K. Chesterton

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 01, 2006, 01:36:02 PM
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Trust me i love debating and i believe i made my case but once again emotion has blinded you'll from seeing my point, which still remains. I never questioned his ability, i am questioning his current performances and recommending although its probably too late for that, but if Beenie had at least made him feel his starting position was under threat, we would have seen the Stern John we all love.
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I don't understand what you mean by "your case".
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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Is this your case ?

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No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
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Or is this your case ?


The one that was so easily refuted by berris. Where is our Cassano or Robinho or Baptista of the bench ? The way you articulated your ideas was misleading. You presented your argument with fire and brimstone saying "send she tail packing" colloquially expressed to vent as you say, your condemnation of Stern's recent performances. You then proceed to justify your utterances after people laugh at your logic by saying more or less that "it's because you care". It sounded more like a cop out than any thing else and it was my emotions telling me so.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Swomp on June 01, 2006, 01:53:49 PM
Stern for striker...plain and simple...all who cud do better than dat man, put on a tugs, and reach where he reach and do what he do, then u cud talk, until then alyuh talkin a bag ah arse in my book
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: g on June 01, 2006, 02:09:37 PM
Whey sah.... I never see d emotions of many dictated by one man so, well one thing we all know is dat he going to play, he going to start. In Stern John we rest our ability to score. May the lord bless him and his foot and he big head to come up trumps for us. I remember post Gold Cup when men was in similar mood. He was out of form then, if anytime to be out of form is now. All it takes is one strike at the right time and d cuss go done, d calls for Jones and Scotland and Glen go done. Legendary status will regained.

I tired argue over something I have no control over.

He don't miss on purpose.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: trinbago on June 01, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
He bong to score.........and it will be with his left foot for Micky!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 01, 2006, 02:27:37 PM
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Trust me i love debating and i believe i made my case but once again emotion has blinded you'll from seeing my point, which still remains. I never questioned his ability, i am questioning his current performances and recommending although its probably too late for that, but if Beenie had at least made him feel his starting position was under threat, we would have seen the Stern John we all love.
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I don't understand what you mean by "your case".
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So when ah man and ah woman together for five years and she horn him in the fifth, he should be grateful for the four good years and keep she? rubbish, send she tail packing .A striker, infact a footballer is as good as his last performance, case close.
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Is this your case ?

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No but i am guessing any good supervisor, will give you a rap on the knuckles for repetitive sub par perfomances, in soccer i guess that's the bench.That is why clubs like Real Madrid who want to keep sweating raul will never excel, sometimes you have to acknowledge when your heroes are failing you and rest or replace them. Your house must be full ah one set ah old appliance boy? Grow up and wise up, Lawd!
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Or is this your case ?


The one that was so easily refuted by berris. Where is our Cassano or Robinho or Baptista of the bench ? The way you articulated your ideas was misleading. You presented your argument with fire and brimstone saying "send she tail packing" colloquially expressed to vent as you say, your condemnation of Stern's recent performances. You then proceed to justify your utterances after people laugh at your logic by saying more or less that "it's because you care". It sounded more like a cop out than any thing else and it was my emotions telling me so.

Case is there for all to see he playing sh*t, he capable of more, what we suppose to do leave him to start all the games i f he continue so or give someone else a try and ruffle he feathers a bit. Last time when i see Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench.He replied with goals, so dats de point.
 Yuh feel if i did not love my team i would even be here, parents does have to punish they kids too -ent they love them?
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 01, 2006, 02:42:06 PM
Sprog I never say you ent love the team I say is that what you said was in the first instance illogical and in the second instance misleading daiz all.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: grskywalker on June 01, 2006, 02:45:18 PM
Don Leo is giving the team exactly the testing we need and baptism of fire we need to wake up. This is what we can expect come June 10th and we better be ready.

Ato should have gone over there and give them some sprint training, that is what's going to make the difference, SPEED. Our Defense are going to face some of the fastest men in the game and they cannot lapse
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: rippin on June 01, 2006, 03:43:21 PM
I not to sure bout dat nah ... an iz not becasue he playi a pile ah tata ... is because de will get mark outta de game ... an don't have the aggression tuh break free ... if he jus drop back fuh de ball little bit it go be harder tuh mark de man ... but he only want ball to he foot ...he hatta pick up he work rate ... he hatta play like he vex ... an like he know Beenie go bench him becasue the forumites done talk

This is a brillaint observation. I sure people tell him that cause sometimes he does it and it works well for the rest of the team. I just find Stern doh look like he working hard enough. Anybody remember the Stern who used to turn either left or right on defenders and score with either foot. Anybody remember the Stern who almost lob the Mexican keeper. Where that Stern?

Men say they doh like Stern post up play. That is part of his talent. He have a decent first touch and he shields the ball well. He can also distribute when he trying. We know Whitley, Birchie, Dwight and Carlos have a decent shot. Let him lay it off for them. He have to stop loafing and come for the ball and contribute.

This side we have not going to beat no offside trap cause of how deep we going to have to play. Men need to unleash from outside. Stern have to start moving more off the ball and cyah get vex when he get a bad pass.

The man scoring streak for club happen after he come back from being on loan. It happen for TnT after nuff people bad talk him. He score and jeering the crowd. This thread come a lil to early. It shoulda start the day before the czech game.

Stern like licks to perform. Right now he not performing. In that Mexico game he had a lot of movement off the ball.  Come on fellas give it to him! Light him up!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Midknight on June 01, 2006, 04:18:44 PM
Last time when i see Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench.He replied with goals, so dats de point.

Correction. The last time that Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench and Beenie kept faith in him
 :o
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: FF on June 01, 2006, 05:19:26 PM
Last time when i see Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench.He replied with goals, so dats de point.

Correction. The last time that Stern get on real bad was when it seemed as if the whole country wanted him to bench and Beenie kept faith in him
 :o


Actually it was reported that Kenwyne Jones was going and start de Guatemala game... and Stern prayers down beenie....

Anybody remember dat...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on June 01, 2006, 05:23:23 PM
wait wait wait wait.... 1989 if you are trying to say that Stern is a better striker than Dwight then you must be a complete moron...
Jefferz what is Dwight Yorke's international scoring record?  What is Stern's?  Does it matter what goals Dwight scored for a club?  How many of those goals can help T&T win a game?  IT IS T&T INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

Here is Dwight Yorke's T&T international striking record:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 goals.
Here is Stern John's T&T international striking record: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -- oops we just passed Yorke's cut off point... continuing anyway -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 goals.

Who has the better scoring record for T&T?  Therefore who is more valueable as a striker for T&T (not ManU get your mind off goals that don't count for T&T)?  The thing is, both Yorke and Stern played on the same messed up T&T teams over the years (featuring poor midfielders to feed strikers), but who scored the most for T&T?
JEFFERZ, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE MORON.

Closing point: Separate celebrity from what wins matches for T&T (or any team for that matter) GOALS.


Well here's the million dollar question:After proving that stern is so much of better at striking for T&T how come they ent call out stern to play for man u or aston villa or blackburn rovers or lemme see hear taking sydney fc to a championship,and by the way the rest of the world Knows about dwight yorke ah never hear them talk about stern,maybe at times recently with lower league coventry,so it's not who striking more for T&T but who's the better overall player and my vote is:DWIGHT YORKE.    

Ok so Yorke should have scored against Mexico then... or any other team during qualifying.
Allyuh really can't separate ManU, Aston Cillan, or Blackburn Rovers from T&T scoring eh??
 ::)
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: saga pinto on June 01, 2006, 05:26:37 PM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

cornell glen cornell glen
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on June 01, 2006, 05:34:14 PM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game

That Ship done leave de harbour!!  :o

You know, if Yorke had 65 goals you same dunce heads would be glorifying him?!!
But because Stern and Latapy didn't play for ManU, do look at their statistics.  Fact is Ali Daei has 109 which is more than Pele plain and simple.  Stern has more goals than Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham etc. ANYHOW you look at it Stern HAS MORE GOALS.

Touches raised the point about #14 not doing well enough for T&T.  I am raising the point that Stern has done more than any other footballer in the history of T&T in terms of scoring - and he is still scoring today. 

YOU might not LIKE Stern, but he still has the record, and he still out performs ALL of the other so called strikers on T&T's team.

Hell... I wish some of you would learn to count.  65 is more than 15, or 28 or whatever anyone has ever scored for T&T!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on June 01, 2006, 05:45:49 PM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.

Why the HELL didn't Yorke get us to the world cup?  He was scoring goals for ManU at that time and playing as a striker along side Stern.  Who scored more?  STERN.

Allyuh really ungrateful.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on June 01, 2006, 05:59:51 PM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.

Why the HELL didn't Yorke get us to the world cup?  He was scoring goals for ManU at that time and playing as a striker along side Stern.  Who scored more?  STERN.

Allyuh really ungrateful.

I am not ungrateful... I have supported Stern John through and through... I still do... but if someone is doing shit yuh hadda give dem pressure... is the only way they can improve...


So sometimes yuh hadda allow men to have a go at him... ounce its constructive.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 01, 2006, 07:23:08 PM
All the talk about Stern doing shit and we seem to forget this is same man who scored less than a week ago. And which is worse Stern missing  chances in the first half or watching a team play totally static football imagine men staying on the ball for close to 10 seconds in their defensive 3rd only to send a long pass and lose it. Allyuh is madmen yes. The worst thing you could see from that last game is Stern ? Steups ! How many times we try to progress up the field and man give the ball a heavy touch and lose the ball. But Stern doing shit ! It was a bad game and a massive failure on various levels. Let's move on.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 01, 2006, 07:31:36 PM
f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM


STERN 14!

PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Bourbon on June 01, 2006, 07:43:04 PM
As i said......If stern used to do something else beside do de finishing after somebody else do the hard work, people wouldnt be on he back all now. But if you eh putting in dem chances yuh getting and yuh eh doing nutting else....effectively yuh wasting time. Either you do de lil bit wha yuh doing all de time or let somebody else do it. Stern while his record is phenomenal........hadda realise due to his game style scoring is all he does. If yuh eh doing dat....yuh eh making sense. It only have one way to hush people up.......score. Yuh running thin on patience. Do yuh wuk.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: SHOTTA on June 01, 2006, 08:21:21 PM
f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM


STERN 14!

PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS

agreed x1000000000000

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 09:07:34 AM
As i said......If stern used to do something else beside do de finishing after somebody else do the hard work, people wouldnt be on he back all now. But if you eh putting in dem chances yuh getting and yuh eh doing nutting else....effectively yuh wasting time. Either you do de lil bit wha yuh doing all de time or let somebody else do it. Stern while his record is phenomenal........hadda realise due to his game style scoring is all he does. If yuh eh doing dat....yuh eh making sense. It only have one way to hush people up.......score. Yuh running thin on patience. Do yuh wuk.


sound like you want blood out ah big stone .......
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Observer on June 02, 2006, 10:50:43 AM
1989 Don't bring up that shit about Brazil only have one top scorer over Stern on a World List. Ali Daei is Number 1, Hossam Hassan is Number 2 and Kamamote is Number 4. Hardly World Class names in World Class football. Yes one still has to score the goals, but against World Class opposition it is much more difficult.
Sern has done well, he scores goals for T&T and he should be in te starting line up. Leave it at that but when you start comparing Stern to Pele and other World Class footballers people go look at yuh as a Dunce in the game

That Ship done leave de harbour!!  :o

You know, if Yorke had 65 goals you same dunce heads would be glorifying him?!!
But because Stern and Latapy didn't play for ManU, do look at their statistics.  Fact is Ali Daei has 109 which is more than Pele plain and simple.  Stern has more goals than Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham etc. ANYHOW you look at it Stern HAS MORE GOALS.

Touches raised the point about #14 not doing well enough for T&T.  I am raising the point that Stern has done more than any other footballer in the history of T&T in terms of scoring - and he is still scoring today. 

YOU might not LIKE Stern, but he still has the record, and he still out performs ALL of the other so called strikers on T&T's team.

Hell... I wish some of you would learn to count.  65 is more than 15, or 28 or whatever anyone has ever scored for T&T!


Excuse me! Where in my post did I say I did not like Stern? Read the post again, digest it and come back. You missed my point completly.

Look the Top goal scorer in Europe 06 Neemelo (Estonia), 05 Hokobian (Armenia), Lloyd Williams (Wales) etc etc. Now yes they top scored but they are not playing a League of teh same quality as Spain, Italy, Premiership etc. That was my only point. If you disagree with that argument then fine
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: morvant on June 02, 2006, 11:39:15 AM
f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM


STERN 14!

PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS

agreed x1000000000000

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

allyuh iz de type to cuss allyuh parents the one day she cyar afford to cook ah hot meal,

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 11:43:10 AM
All de haters of #14 only bumpin dey gum daiz all dey doing people just want to ignore the facts and puh down #14....ah bunch ah hypocrites coming on an talking pure tata bout he eh do nuttin for we in a long time,he eh no good,he does throw away,ah ha 2 laugh,all yuh ha to be jokers,becuz if all yuh really following TnT football yuh must know who de best and only true goal scorer we have is Stern,who else have proven dey can get de job done .......NOBODY....is time to give jack he jacket jim he jimboots and dick he pr!ck ...........................talk done !!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 02, 2006, 11:54:31 AM
Berris,

Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.

Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.

Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.

Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.




(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)



All I want him to do is score....then I might like him


Until then.


He will remain a pothound in my books.

Respectfully submitted,

Touches

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: MickeyRat on June 02, 2006, 12:01:00 PM
f**k EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM


STERN 14!

PRESIDENT OF THE MOST DIE HARD STERN JOHN FANS

agreed x1000000000000

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE

allyuh iz de type to cuss allyuh parents the one day she cyar afford to cook ah hot meal,

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE

Ah like that Morvant.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: oconnorg on June 02, 2006, 12:05:01 PM
Berris,

Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.

Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.

Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.

Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.




(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)



All I want him to do is score....then I might like him


Until then.


He will remain a pothound in my books.

Respectfully submitted,

Touches



Aye, does that bench come in RED ?
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 12:19:47 PM
Berris,

Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.

Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.

Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.

Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.




(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)



All I want him to do is score....then I might like him


Until then.


He will remain a pothound in my books.

Respectfully submitted,

Touches




ah  Touches de same way yuh monitoring wah and when I post yuh cyar see yuh doing de same ting ...
imagine ....yuh went an sleep ...yuh wake up an come back again thursday and now yuh comeback again with de same blinkers, yuh no de kind dey does puh on horse so dey cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front ah dem  
daiz wah you have on dread, blinkers ......an ah tink yuh getting mix up , nobody eh ask yuh to like Stern but  just give credit where credit due ..

p.s. touches look like yuh use to make pleanty bench in yuh day, yuh cudda tell meh yuh was a carpenter !!!! ...nice bench though !!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 02, 2006, 01:22:29 PM
Berris,

A carpenter is a noble profession....wham to you atall.

The greatest man that ever walked this earth was a carpenter.

I'm sorry...........I just cant join your little club. Consider me persona non grata.

and yuh know I ent have total disdain for the man....I just find he is a shitsnake .

Berris this might be hard for you to comprehend...but my comments bout yuh boy sorf. They have worse dan me.

Doe worry they have plenty men who in my corner and who feel the same way bout Stern. They just wasn't feeling to type away at your comments.

Alright let me cheer you up and make you feel better.....this goes for Small Magician as well.

#14 is the best thing in a tugs.

He is the greatest player to ever put orn the red/black and white to wear a tugs and score goals for Trinidad and Tobago. His impeccable record and potent strike rate among the best teams in the world is second to none.

He is the personification of a striker, attitude, hardwork, discipline and an inspirational leader and motivator to his team mates and to the fans.

Last but certainly not least he singlehandedly guided Trinidad and Tobago to its first ever World Cup Finals and 1.3 million citizens are eternally greatful.

I salute you Stern John.

#14 Forever!








There berris....now yuh could go pee, duss orf yuh foot and go to sleep hope all is well.



Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 02, 2006, 01:45:41 PM
I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.

all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who. Look who have 64 goals as well.
Kiatisuk Senamuang!! WHO?!

And look at the top of the list, I mean he with some illustrious company. Ali Daei, Bashar Abdullah, Hossam Hassan who the f**k is them men?

If that list was any good it would ah have shots taken and index it against the goals to give you a clearer picture.

I doh understand all yuh fixation with this stats thing. Because he have 64 goals mean he better than Ronaldo or Zico or anybody else on that list. I think not.
As it is that stat sheet eh worth nothing it jes serving for all yuh to prop up Stern.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 02, 2006, 01:49:16 PM

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boy that too good for he boy, is this he need
(http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/BDX/BDX128/bxp28232.jpg)

ah nice stainless stell posie
for all that shit he does be playing
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 01:58:25 PM
Berris,

A carpenter is a noble profession....wham to you atall.

The greatest man that ever walked this earth was a carpenter.

I'm sorry...........I just cant join your little club. Consider me persona non grata.

and yuh know I ent have total disdain for the man....I just find he is a shitsnake .

Berris this might be hard for you to comprehend...but my comments bout yuh boy sorf. They have worse dan me.

Doe worry they have plenty men who in my corner and who feel the same way bout Stern. They just wasn't feeling to type away at your comments.

Alright let me cheer you up and make you feel better.....this goes for Small Magician as well.

#14 is the best thing in a tugs.

He is the greatest player to ever put orn the red/black and white to wear a tugs and score goals for Trinidad and Tobago. His impeccable record and potent strike rate among the best teams in the world is second to none.

He is the personification of a striker, attitude, hardwork, discipline and an inspirational leader and motivator to his team mates and to the fans.

Last but certainly not least he singlehandedly guided Trinidad and Tobago to its first ever World Cup Finals and 1.3 million citizens are eternally greatful.

I salute you Stern John.

#14 Forever!








There berris....now yuh could go pee, duss orf yuh foot and go to sleep hope all is well.






Like ah tell yuh before Stern doh have to be meh boy for me to post how valuable ah goal scorer he has been to TnT. The same way it hah people posting negative bout Stern it hah man posting positive so wuz ur point dey ? dat and saying nuttin is de same.
Me eh have , 'pleanty man in meh corner',buh ah know and recognize and cud see a natural goal scorer when ah see one and 65 goals in international competion any way yuh want to dis it is still the TnT record ...wah yuh feel he buy dem goals dem is de same goals dat put we in Germany .....
Touches leh meh ask yuh dis if Stern is ah shithound how come he playing in England ,wham de english coaches doh no bout football or Stern just de lucky dey pick him.
Leh meh make yuh feel good before ah go
Stern John is de worse goal scorer TnT ever had he cyar score a goal to put we in the WC not even a qualifying goal ,he score 65 international goals by fluke pure luck and shudda be on de bench in every game he everplayer for TnT , he never come back home for games as he allways dissin TnT, like Dwight when he playing for Man U, and  refuse to train like a true proffesional that is why he is always disciplined by beenie and benched,he only lucky he score dem 12 goals in de qualifying games as  everyone ah dem goals was flukes none were good goals and none i repeat none were meaningfull to TnT in qualifing for the WC and for dat hel will always be a shithound .


there Touches happy now....ah hope for your sake yuh hemmroids doh start acting up again.... gone sleep ....hope yuh feel better
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: SHOTTA on June 02, 2006, 02:00:48 PM
and when this thread is dead and gone

just like against wales and austria wein and mexico and sides in the championship

hell b e banging them in

like i said in a next post........stern john did not walk into a tnt team he showed dem bastards on the training pitch that he meant business

now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate

i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with

12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: g on June 02, 2006, 02:05:48 PM

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Jah boy Touches you could ah find ah better bench dan dat, it look like one meh grandfather had on his plantation in Chatham
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 02:09:20 PM
I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.

all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who. Look who have 64 goals as well.
Kiatisuk Senamuang!! WHO?!

And look at the top of the list, I mean he with some illustrious company. Ali Daei, Bashar Abdullah, Hossam Hassan who the f**k is them men?

If that list was any good it would ah have shots taken and index it against the goals to give you a clearer picture.

I doh understand all yuh fixation with this stats thing. Because he have 64 goals mean he better than Ronaldo or Zico or anybody else on that list. I think not.
As it is that stat sheet eh worth nothing it jes serving for all yuh to prop up Stern.



stats records call dem wah yuh want who else we have playing for TnT now with dat sort af goal scoring record ?  nobody eh come close so that doh mean nuttin?,like you wearing blinkers to .As Trinis we never satisfied none ah all yuh cyar do better buh yuh come on here bumpin yuh gum bout wah yuh doh no ...some ah all yuh never kick a ball in yuh life buh want to come and tell people bout who good and who eh good ...well since yuh know who eh good ah want yuh to tell meh who better and why ? what dey do for TnT football on what grounds shud they be starting infront of Stern ....
This is a losing battle becuz when ah horse have on blinkers he cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front of him and it pleanty blinkers on on this site....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Dutty on June 02, 2006, 02:45:22 PM
I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.

all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who. Look who have 64 goals as well.
Kiatisuk Senamuang!! WHO?!

And look at the top of the list, I mean he with some illustrious company. Ali Daei, Bashar Abdullah, Hossam Hassan who the f**k is them men?

If that list was any good it would ah have shots taken and index it against the goals to give you a clearer picture.

I doh understand all yuh fixation with this stats thing. Because he have 64 goals mean he better than Ronaldo or Zico or anybody else on that list. I think not.
As it is that stat sheet eh worth nothing it jes serving for all yuh to prop up Stern.



stats records call dem wah yuh want who else we have playing for TnT now with dat sort af goal scoring record ?  nobody eh come close so that doh mean nuttin?,like you wearing blinkers to .As Trinis we never satisfied none ah all yuh cyar do better buh yuh come on here bumpin yuh gum bout wah yuh doh no ...some ah all yuh never kick a ball in yuh life buh want to come and tell people bout who good and who eh good ...well since yuh know who eh good ah want yuh to tell meh who better and why ? what dey do for TnT football on what grounds shud they be starting infront of Stern ....
This is a losing battle becuz when ah horse have on blinkers he cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front of him and it pleanty blinkers on on this site....

Berris lemmih jump into allyuh love fest here and just point out..dat from looooooooooooooooonnnng time

Disgruntled Trini doh like stern.....if you do a search on disgruntled trini you will discover 90% of he posts does have to do wit not likin stern
so I eh tink yuh winnin dis one....matter of fact disgruntled doh like much, he even dislike de lil QRC band wit de poor lil fellahs tryin...but ah know he have ah special place fuh stern

If stern pull de man out ah burnin building he go still cuss stern

ok ..with that....allyuh continue.....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Johpants on June 02, 2006, 03:05:06 PM
Clearly Berris you are the first man who would not have to look far to see one of the blinders-wearers. Oh shucks, that would be difficult for you wouldn't it, but I'm sure that you will be able to feel them nonetheless.

Granted, men might be going overboard by labelling Stern as the worse thing etc.  However, should everyone take a step back (which might be very difficult at this juncture given the proximity of the big dance) and look at Stern's past and present contributions to the national effort dispassionately we just might see that 1) Mr. John has been a faithful servant to the T&T cause  2) Mr. John is blessed with the talents of a goalscorer 3) He, by a long way, is the top scorer for the red, white and black.

Similarly we should see that 1) He is less proficient at playing football than playing a striker as he rarely contributes in any other way to the team performance other than scoring 2) His returns,given the number of opportunities presented to him (as he rarely works for these himself), leaves a lot to be desired.

We all know that Stern can play a team game (see T&T v Mex 12/10/05). Unfortunately he seems to do so only when he wants, maybe this is understood and accepted  by the coaching staff but here's the rub, he's not the only striker and he does not have a divine right to start. As he is not producing the goods at the rate expected based on his experience, skill and talents then there's room for disenchantment and the option to try someone else.

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and free to express it and in this forum we have both the Stern fanatics and the Stern haters and that is all good. But let us not lose sight of the fact that football is a team sport and that in this case that team is our beloved Soca warriors and we all just want and expect them to do their best. In addition we have a right to demand that they do. In the end this does not mean that anyone feels that they can do better than the players, but the players do represent every Trinidadian and Tobagonian and so we all have the right to hold them up to whatever standard we chose as individuals.

Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 03:19:26 PM

ok ok ok Dutty and company ah rest meh case ........right after dis .....


Dutty I eh trying to convince anybody to like Stern dis eh ah liking contest ,is dem dem fellas making it dat.Nobody eh ask dem to like Stern John,but yuh cyar talk bout goal scoring for TnT without Stern name, g  all ah dem who hating Stern jump up  in TnT when he score doe, so they only frontin on here ....leh Stern score in Germany and they go jump higher buh dey still coming back an say 'he eh no good'.
Me eh asking nobdy to like Stern hate him if yuh want buh ah know come game all de haters hah even dey big cross knowing in de back ah dey mind Stern is de only man dat does really pull we thru...doe mind we eh like him all he does do is score .......65 and counting
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Midknight on June 02, 2006, 03:33:32 PM
now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate

i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with

12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs

 :rotfl: for real shotta.

To everybody who pounding Stern - All yuh men is real kix. Al you get some bush rum and now alyou want champagne. Stern could win the golden boot by scoring 6 against Paraguay and if we didn't qualify for the second round because sweden and hingerland beat we, you go say is he fault and he's a snake. If we get to the second round after that performance you go say, but look who he score them against.
If he score against Hingerlan and he loss you go say he throw way goals we coulda win with. If he score them goals and we win, you go want to know what he was doing against Paraguay.

Since he pick up the injury Stern is not the same player, but he learn how to make a living out ah making men forget he on the pitch. In a certain way you could say he perfect the playing dead to ketch cobo alive strategy. If Stern had the 'reputation'

But to say that Stern doh do nothing on the team except wait for pass you ha to eb a bloody liar. Against Slovenia in that same game everybody cussing him for, Stern pelt a blade on a man BEHIND the half line. Against Peru he do nuff defending. He's not the fittest player on the team but all you want him to do the work of fifty men.

Why the ASS alyou doh ask Shaka to take free kicks eh? Or Latas to defend?

You could say how d man doh LOOK like he doing nothing but when he scoring, where you does be? Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Until such time that any of we other options up front do something to suggest that they could even lace Stern boots, you can't be calling for him to bench.

Granted, I woulda like to see two of the other strikers up front in the slovenia game just for them to get some practice, and to rest Stern but from there to go and say that number 14 is the worst thing in tugs...you have to be a ingrate!

Stern come home when the starboy didn't want to hear anything about trinidad. Dat is the thanks alyuh give him? I now understand where Stephen Ames and Vidia NAipaul coming from
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 04:00:45 PM

Similarly we should see that 1) He is less proficient at playing football than playing a striker as he rarely contributes in any other way to the team performance other than scoring 2) His returns,given the number of opportunities presented to him (as he rarely works for these himself), leaves a lot to be desired.

We all know that Stern can play a team game (see T&T v Mex 12/10/05). Unfortunately he seems to do so only when he wants, maybe this is understood and accepted  by the coaching staff but here's the rub, he's not the only striker and he does not have a divine right to start. As he is not producing the goods at the rate expected based on his experience, skill and talents then there's room for disenchantment and the option to try someone else.

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and free to express it and in this forum we have both the Stern fanatics and the Stern haters and that is all good. But let us not lose sight of the fact that football is a team sport and that in this case that team is our beloved Soca warriors and we all just want and expect them to do their best. In addition we have a right to demand that they do. In the end this does not mean that anyone feels that they can do better than the players, but the players do represent every Trinidadian and Tobagonian and so we all have the right to hold them up to whatever standard we chose as individuals.





this has to be a joke right !!  becuz a player represents TnT you think 'we have de right to hold them up to whatever standard we CHOOSE as individuals' ....... lol lol ah sorry to laugh buh it really funny becuz when yuh tink bout a person being selected to represent dey country becuz of dey talent and den dey have to live up to your standards ...lol lol yuh really serious ....lol lol sorry meh bredder ah eh hah nuttin to say ah cyar argue wid dah kind ah reasoning ....take win ....l
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Arazi on June 02, 2006, 04:06:56 PM
now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate

i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with

12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs

 :rotfl: for real shotta.

To everybody who pounding Stern - All yuh men is real kix. Al you get some bush rum and now alyou want champagne. Stern could win the golden boot by scoring 6 against Paraguay and if we didn't qualify for the second round because sweden and hingerland beat we, you go say is he fault and he's a snake. If we get to the second round after that performance you go say, but look who he score them against.
If he score against Hingerlan and he loss you go say he throw way goals we coulda win with. If he score them goals and we win, you go want to know what he was doing against Paraguay.

Since he pick up the injury Stern is not the same player, but he learn how to make a living out ah making men forget he on the pitch. In a certain way you could say he perfect the playing dead to ketch cobo alive strategy. If Stern had the 'reputation'

But to say that Stern doh do nothing on the team except wait for pass you ha to eb a bloody liar. Against Slovenia in that same game everybody cussing him for, Stern pelt a blade on a man BEHIND the half line. Against Peru he do nuff defending. He's not the fittest player on the team but all you want him to do the work of fifty men.

Why the ASS alyou doh ask Shaka to take free kicks eh? Or Latas to defend?

You could say how d man doh LOOK like he doing nothing but when he scoring, where you does be? Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Until such time that any of we other options up front do something to suggest that they could even lace Stern boots, you can't be calling for him to bench.

Granted, I woulda like to see two of the other strikers up front in the slovenia game just for them to get some practice, and to rest Stern but from there to go and say that number 14 is the worst thing in tugs...you have to be a ingrate!

Stern come home when the starboy didn't want to hear anything about trinidad. Dat is the thanks alyuh give him? I now understand where Stephen Ames and Vidia NAipaul coming from

Midknight this is one of the best posts i've seen in a while...

alot of men does forget about the rest of Stern game...
I think he is actually one of our better passers of the ball, his ball control is very good...
I remeber in d hex men was calling for him 2 get drop for the guatemala game, and i couldn't understand why, just a few games b4 he scored and set up a goal ( against panama in HC stadium ).. buh men wanted to drop him..
the last goal Cornell Glen score for trinidad in the goal cup, yes, was set up by Angus Eve, but it was Stern pass from the center that realease Angus into space on the right to put in d cross...

Stern played a solid overall game in the second leg against Bahrain, actually distiributing the ball from the middle, in fact Yorke and Latapy did alot more wasteful things dan Stern in dat game...

Now as for d Slovenia game, i am yet to see it in entirety, but Stern should not have missed those chances.. buh consider this, if a player is not in a postion to score how will he score, THE FACT THAT HE FOUND HIMSELF IN DANGEROUS POSITIONS TO RECEIVE THE BALL AND SCORE IS AN ENCOURAGING SIGN... however he still has to finish and despite his misgiving wednesday he is still the best finsher on our team in my eyes..

peace
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 04:13:20 PM
Arazi and Midknight all yuh cudd'nt ah put it better excellent post ....dem fellas eh have ah clue ...Stern John = GOALS........... wah dey want again, blood !!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 02, 2006, 04:25:02 PM
Alyuh eh know how much kicks I ketching off this thread eh.

The stainless steel posee had meh rolling this afternoon :rotfl:

Imagine I call the man a shithound as I do countless times and post some pictures of what I think is the remedy he need to score.

Go back read all d posts.....

You know what this thread unearth......a setta men who just couldnt take the pong that they getting from they partners bout they beloved player and just had to feel the need to vent.

Watch the tread good....read carefully, all who take this opportunity to call man waggonist. All who is not patriot and die hard. All who ungreatful and all who is hypocrite. Who have or doe have class etc.

And the kicksy thing is man making accusations...get a talk and will try to defend a opinion that was not even part of the topic in the first place.


I never bring up a stat...I never question Stern Loyalty to the cause, I ent say nuttin bout him being top goal scorer........others said that.

But I make some peepers come out the woodwork and I raise people pressure!

I like dat!.........and because I know I fretting alyuh tail I going and be a troll and lace it alyuh even more.

All I simply said is Stern is a shithound and he must take his chances.....I provided my remedy for what is needed and yes I think a bench is in order.

Imagine I have been accused of wearing blinkers when all I am stating is the obvious.

and if you notice....I want the man score too. I know he in the line up and all I want is TT to do well.

But small ting.


as FF say if better can't be done let the worse continue!


What this thread did bring in my eyes is that many of you settle for mediocrity and shit from your players and our team.......and to cap it off alyuh does defend the shit and try to spin it around all how to justify it.

Why it so hard for alyuh to accept our limitations.

Why is it so hard for alyuh to call out a man or a performance when he play shit.

Why is it also so hard to understand that we are in the present and that what matters is the form players are in now.....not what was done before.

Nobody not ungreatful but the bar has been raised and alyuh in remember when mode instead of fixing it now mode.

I sorry, but I know better can be done by not only Stern, but the Warriors as well and if alyuh doe like how I call it as I see it thats alyuh.

I have always wanted the best for TT as a team and if is tough love Stern need to get vex and score well I did my job.
But if he has to take a seat on the pine...then all that good as well.



Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 02, 2006, 04:32:52 PM
Alyuh eh know how much kicks I ketching off this thread eh.

The stainless steel posee had meh rolling this afternoon :rotfl:

Imagine I call the man a shithound as I do countless times and post some pictures of what I think is the remedy he need to score.

Go back read all d posts.....

You know what this thread unearth......a setta men who just couldnt take the pong that they getting from they partners bout they beloved player and just had to feel the need to vent.

Watch the tread good....read carefully, all who take this opportunity to call man waggonist. All who is not patriot and die hard. All who ungreatful and all who is hypocrite. Who have or doe have class etc.

And the kicksy thing is man making accusations...get a talk and will try to defend a opinion that was not even part of the topic in the first place.


I never bring up a stat...I never question Stern Loyalty to the cause, I ent say nuttin bout him being top goal scorer........others said that.

But I make some peepers come out the woodwork and I raise people pressure!

I like dat!.........and because I know I fretting alyuh tail I going and be a troll and lace it alyuh even more.

All I simply said is Stern is a shithound and he must take his chances.....I provided my remedy for what is needed and yes I think a bench is in order.

Imagine I have been accused of wearing blinkers when all I am stating is the obvious.

and if you notice....I want the man score too. I know he in the line up and all I want is TT to do well.

But small ting.


as FF say if better can't be done let the worse continue!


What this thread did bring in my eyes is that many of you settle for mediocrity and shit from your players and our team.......and to cap it off alyuh does defend the shit and try to spin it around all how to justify it.

Why it so hard for alyuh to accept our limitations.

Why is it so hard for alyuh to call out a man or a performance when he play shit.

Why is it also so hard to understand that we are in the present and that what matters is the form players are in now.....not what was done before.

Nobody not ungreatful but the bar has been raised and alyuh in remember when mode instead of fixing it now mode.

I sorry, but I know better can be done by not only Stern, but the Warriors as well and if alyuh doe like how I call it as I see it thats alyuh.

I have always wanted the best for TT as a team and if is tough love Stern need to get vex and score well I did my job.
But if he has to take a seat on the pine...then all that good as well.






Touches wey yuh just say dey make green grass grow all over de world .....










bullshit ............
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Touches on June 02, 2006, 04:36:12 PM
Berris...take win

We will agree to disagree.

I overs both you and Stern.

Welcome to the forum and enjoy.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on June 02, 2006, 04:38:57 PM
I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.

all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who.


Well Yorke scored a whopping 15 against the same competition.  Argue with that nah?!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on June 02, 2006, 04:43:23 PM
now let one a allyuh strikers step up to d plate

i dare u force my man to touches bench and show ur worth cuz if u get 1 chance and make it good it liable to have a bord littered with

12,13,15,20 is d worst ting in a tugs

 :rotfl: for real shotta.

To everybody who pounding Stern - All yuh men is real kix. Al you get some bush rum and now alyou want champagne. Stern could win the golden boot by scoring 6 against Paraguay and if we didn't qualify for the second round because sweden and hingerland beat we, you go say is he fault and he's a snake. If we get to the second round after that performance you go say, but look who he score them against.
If he score against Hingerlan and he loss you go say he throw way goals we coulda win with. If he score them goals and we win, you go want to know what he was doing against Paraguay.

Since he pick up the injury Stern is not the same player, but he learn how to make a living out ah making men forget he on the pitch. In a certain way you could say he perfect the playing dead to ketch cobo alive strategy. If Stern had the 'reputation'

But to say that Stern doh do nothing on the team except wait for pass you ha to eb a bloody liar. Against Slovenia in that same game everybody cussing him for, Stern pelt a blade on a man BEHIND the half line. Against Peru he do nuff defending. He's not the fittest player on the team but all you want him to do the work of fifty men.

Why the ASS alyou doh ask Shaka to take free kicks eh? Or Latas to defend?

You could say how d man doh LOOK like he doing nothing but when he scoring, where you does be? Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Until such time that any of we other options up front do something to suggest that they could even lace Stern boots, you can't be calling for him to bench.

Granted, I woulda like to see two of the other strikers up front in the slovenia game just for them to get some practice, and to rest Stern but from there to go and say that number 14 is the worst thing in tugs...you have to be a ingrate!

Stern come home when the starboy didn't want to hear anything about trinidad. Dat is the thanks alyuh give him? I now understand where Stephen Ames and Vidia NAipaul coming from

Well said!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on June 02, 2006, 05:12:01 PM
I never see a set ah men suffering from acute tunnel vision coupled with blind patriotism so.

all yuh does consistently make excuses for the man and quick to pull he stats out a all yuh ass to back up all yuh argument.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yuh could prove anything with statistics.
Oh great he score 64 goals, but against who.


Well Yorke scored a whopping 15 against the same competition.  Argue with that nah?!

why do you have this vendetta with Yorke... (also you keep forgetting the fact that in the last 15 games Yorke has been used as a striker in about 3 of them)... Stern was for most of the time the lone striker upfront... even after missing 5 in a row... he must put them in the back of the net once or twice.... he's supposed to.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: kappy on June 02, 2006, 05:37:57 PM
Since Stern eh no good again.... I ask one question ...Who else scores goals for TnT?  not who else can score buh who actually scores and doh tell meh no bull sh!t bout he de does play all de time so he must score because it ha many times other strikers play , so who else is TnT big scorer ????? eh ????

Well up to yesterday and for the bahrain legs it was Birchall and lawrence.

Berris lemme tell yuh this.

Stern have we where we is.......... as well as have we where we is.

I resign myself to the fact that if he doe score we doe win.

But what wrong with telling him he playing shit and need to buck up.

Even when Stern score he does fret yuh.....you want to talk bout game and history.

When he miss dat penalty vs mexico what yuh was saying then?

Stern coulda had we in the 2002 WC if he did convert he chances den.

Why the HELL didn't Yorke get us to the world cup?  He was scoring goals for ManU at that time and playing as a striker along side Stern.  Who scored more?  STERN.

Allyuh really ungrateful.

but for Man U he was an out and out striker ... for us he plays a little withdrawn becasue of his age and his ability to distribute ... just like at Sydney ... Stern does hold the ball well, beats men, ... but what he lacks is a poachers mentality ... he looks to often for the pretty perfect goals ... in the WC its not how u score but that u score ... smooth pretty goals and the ugly ones u hatta scramble for ... thats is what he is lacking ...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: FF on June 02, 2006, 05:51:53 PM
Touches boy... I co-op the "if better cant be done" line from Disgruntled....

but these men real harden... them refuse to see your point and or reasoning.....

Let meh show dem ah forms....

Stern break he duck after Beenie threaten to bench he arse.... lemmeh see all who want to deny that...

it work before... it go work again! It working all over de world.... ah lil pine does go a long way!
Lemmeh see who pressure raise....  ;D

Thank you and good night!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: saga pinto on June 02, 2006, 06:26:14 PM
Lets see what'll he do in the czech game,maybe this is his break-out game and all the coach need to do from now on is threaten him with the bench,but I want to be proven wrong,it's just not going to happen..................see all the forumites in fantasy land with stern.     
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: kappy on June 02, 2006, 07:14:32 PM
Lets see what'll he do in the czech game,maybe this is his break-out game and all the coach need to do from now on is threaten him with the bench,but I want to be proven wrong,it's just not going to happen..................see all the forumites in fantasy land with stern.     

Isn't Glenn getting a bligh in this game ... this is the perfect opportunity to let Stern sit on de pine ... its a big practice game ... so if he get bench now he go geh vex fuh de Sweden game an break out den ... Beenie cud wok some head games wit him now tuh let him know dat yuh not a star boy ... just like the Serbia & Montinegro coach bench dey star boy Kezmen for the sake of TEAM UNITY ... coaches all over de world use this strategy tuh get strikers hungury again ... Sir Alex also did it to Ruud VN at Man U ...so why not Beenie an Stern.  jus becasue he used to score mean that he will score again ...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: The_Ice on June 02, 2006, 07:58:23 PM
All de haters of #14 only bumpin dey gum daiz all dey doing people just want to ignore the facts and puh down #14....ah bunch ah hypocrites coming on an talking pure tata bout he eh do nuttin for we in a long time,he eh no good,he does throw away,ah ha 2 laugh,all yuh ha to be jokers,becuz if all yuh really following TnT football yuh must know who de best and only true goal scorer we have is Stern,who else have proven dey can get de job done .......NOBODY....is time to give jack he jacket jim he jimboots and dick he pr!ck ...........................talk done !!!
Berris,

Like #14 and this thread real bothering yuh.

Imagine yuh let two qualifying campaign pass, a setta friendlies pass and yuh Introduction to the board......yuh opening 18 posts is to defend a man who throw away 4 "gift" vs a squad who play nuttin.

Imagine...yuh went and sleep....yuh wake up and come back again thursday...and now come back again fri to defend a shit performance.

Berris look what Stern need!..........it ent have to be a big dose but check it out.




(http://www.r-m-t.org/Props/props_jpgs/Park%20Bench.jpg)



All I want him to do is score....then I might like him


Until then.


He will remain a pothound in my books.

Respectfully submitted,

Touches




ah  Touches de same way yuh monitoring wah and when I post yuh cyar see yuh doing de same ting ...
imagine ....yuh went an sleep ...yuh wake up an come back again thursday and now yuh comeback again with de same blinkers, yuh no de kind dey does puh on horse so dey cyar see nuttin else buh wah in front ah dem 
daiz wah you have on dread, blinkers ......an ah tink yuh getting mix up , nobody eh ask yuh to like Stern but  just give credit where credit due ..

p.s. touches look like yuh use to make pleanty bench in yuh day, yuh cudda tell meh yuh was a carpenter !!!! ...nice bench though !!!

ok ok ok Dutty and company ah rest meh case ........right after dis .....


Dutty I eh trying to convince anybody to like Stern dis eh ah liking contest ,is dem dem fellas making it dat.Nobody eh ask dem to like Stern John,but yuh cyar talk bout goal scoring for TnT without Stern name, g all ah dem who hating Stern jump up in TnT when he score doe, so they only frontin on here ....leh Stern score in Germany and they go jump higher buh dey still coming back an say 'he eh no good'.
Me eh asking nobdy to like Stern hate him if yuh want buh ah know come game all de haters hah even dey big cross knowing in de back ah dey mind Stern is de only man dat does really pull we thru...doe mind we eh like him all he does do is score .......65 and counting

etc.,etc....

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

i know this man... here is a true stern supporter... allyuh dont know how much english sh!t he's defend stern from... lol
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: arrow on June 03, 2006, 03:00:31 AM
the last goal Cornell Glen score for trinidad in the goal cup, yes, was set up by Angus Eve, but it was Stern pass from the center that realease Angus into space on the right to put in d cross...

That was a pull stones ball Stern give Angus there!!  Angus was in acres of space on the right, all it took was a simple ball but Stern overweight the pass and it nearly went out for a corner!!  In fact I sure thas why Beenie drop Angus after the Gold Cup, he figure there's no way he'll ever be healthy again, fuss he stones get pulled!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: croc on June 03, 2006, 03:45:37 AM
Touches bro yuh is ah Chemist or what? Maybe they should all take dat and "CASHIT because they cant shoot ah mean S*IT... :rotfl:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 03, 2006, 07:08:09 AM

alot of men does forget about the rest of Stern game...
I think he is actually one of our better passers of the ball, his ball control is very good...



WHAT!!

better passes, ball control


wha game you does be watching, look stop talking damn dotishness eh
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: pass(10trini) on June 03, 2006, 07:25:56 AM
allya eh done ye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: whayuhsay on June 03, 2006, 03:11:46 PM
I do not understand his role, he just stands there.

We need playmakers like Samuel and Latapy!
Title: Bench Stern John
Post by: whayuhsay on June 05, 2006, 10:10:15 PM
Bring him on at half time, that should create a spark in him, maybe end the drought!
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: Toppa on June 05, 2006, 10:16:09 PM
Wha yuh say?!  :D You looking fuh trouble on dis board.
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 05, 2006, 10:23:36 PM
wha yuh bringing him on half-time to do??

is bench and more bench
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: whayuhsay on June 05, 2006, 10:28:09 PM
Bring him on HT, he eh go throw way goal, he eh go stand up waiting for ball, it go spark a fire, he go start playing football, helping create chances, instead of just standing up, he go score every chance he get. 

Bench he arse against Sweden!
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: Trinimassive on June 05, 2006, 10:40:23 PM
Stern is an exceptional player BUT he cannot play by himself up front. If he had someone playing up front with him he will score bundles...
he has an eye for goal but he doesn't move around alot so be would need another striker who will do the running to open spaces for him to score. But his record speaks for itself. He can score.
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: fishs on June 05, 2006, 10:44:39 PM


    BENCH STERN JOHN ?


  Allyuh want two clout. ???

  This is another post like ah one foot man in ah ass kicking contest.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: Organic on June 05, 2006, 10:46:02 PM
I DONT CARE WHO DE^%$# START ONCE DEY SCORE...SHIT MAN..I NO DE COACH...HELL D E KEEPER COUDL SCORE FOR ALL I CARE( INSPIRED BY THE POLISH GAME). t&t we want a goal!!
 if u cyah remeber that chan.. your ass young
Title: Re: Bench Stern John
Post by: masterblaster on June 06, 2006, 02:55:37 AM
I know Stern is aware that supporters was vex when he wasn't doing anything in the qualifiers and getting caught offside over and over again.  So when he started to score he cursed and justiculated at everyone who thought he should get sub.

OK.  So it is established that he is our main striker and we need him to score goals for us.  What I am wondering though is whether Stern or any other players does come on the Soca Warriors website nad read dese posts.  Ah mean de man does be offside about 10 times in one game!!!  Ah doh mine missing chances as long as yuh score de one or two of chances.  But de man always standin up, always getting catch offside and will probably go down as the laziest striker in the 2006 world cup.

Looking at strikers at the international level, you see dem running around constantly.  With Stern standing around it easy for the oppostion defense to read him. 

Lawd.....It eh have nobody who know de man personally to tell him to wake up...GEEEZZZZ!!!!

MAYBE HE WAS SAVING HIS ENERGY FOR DE WORLD CUP AND HE GOIN TO SURPRISE ALL AH WE!!!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: saga pinto on June 06, 2006, 06:05:35 AM
Alyuh eh know how much kicks I ketching off this thread eh.

The stainless steel posee had meh rolling this afternoon :rotfl:

Imagine I call the man a shithound as I do countless times and post some pictures of what I think is the remedy he need to score.

Go back read all d posts.....

You know what this thread unearth......a setta men who just couldnt take the pong that they getting from they partners bout they beloved player and just had to feel the need to vent.

Watch the tread good....read carefully, all who take this opportunity to call man waggonist. All who is not patriot and die hard. All who ungreatful and all who is hypocrite. Who have or doe have class etc.

And the kicksy thing is man making accusations...get a talk and will try to defend a opinion that was not even part of the topic in the first place.


I never bring up a stat...I never question Stern Loyalty to the cause, I ent say nuttin bout him being top goal scorer........others said that.

But I make some peepers come out the woodwork and I raise people pressure!

I like dat!.........and because I know I fretting alyuh tail I going and be a troll and lace it alyuh even more.

All I simply said is Stern is a shithound and he must take his chances.....I provided my remedy for what is needed and yes I think a bench is in order.

Imagine I have been accused of wearing blinkers when all I am stating is the obvious.

and if you notice....I want the man score too. I know he in the line up and all I want is TT to do well.

But small ting.


as FF say if better can't be done let the worse continue!


What this thread did bring in my eyes is that many of you settle for mediocrity and shit from your players and our team.......and to cap it off alyuh does defend the shit and try to spin it around all how to justify it.

Why it so hard for alyuh to accept our limitations.

Why is it so hard for alyuh to call out a man or a performance when he play shit.

Why is it also so hard to understand that we are in the present and that what matters is the form players are in now.....not what was done before.

Nobody not ungreatful but the bar has been raised and alyuh in remember when mode instead of fixing it now mode.

I sorry, but I know better can be done by not only Stern, but the Warriors as well and if alyuh doe like how I call it as I see it thats alyuh.

I have always wanted the best for TT as a team and if is tough love Stern need to get vex and score well I did my job.
But if he has to take a seat on the pine...then all that good as well.




Excellent Touches truly Excellent,but unfortunately most of the guys yuh targeting are beyond reasoning..............Great post,good to see someone with an objective point of view with no malice..... 
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: sprog on June 06, 2006, 09:18:27 AM
Touches, well said brother :applause:
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 06, 2006, 10:13:28 AM
All yuh still hating ...all yuh rally good de WC go start ,play and finish and all yuh go still be hating ....wat ah waste !!!!!
Title: starters...logical??
Post by: trininess on June 06, 2006, 01:15:58 PM
now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......

wah yal;l; thuink?
Title: Re: starters...logical??
Post by: Jahyouth on June 06, 2006, 01:18:40 PM
now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......

wah yal;l; thuink?

Stern must start.  Thread closed.

Allyuh so lucky I wasn't a moderator.  "Ah fed up ah the same ting... over and over"
Title: Re: starters...logical??
Post by: trininess on June 06, 2006, 01:23:52 PM
no its not a must just like latas have to earn his spot and every other man have to, his performance last couple days....hasnt guaranteed him anything.......so me in noe whey u geh MUSS START from..
Title: Re: starters...logical??
Post by: The_Ice on June 06, 2006, 01:44:00 PM
now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......

wah yal;l; thuink?

leaving out stern is not an option at this stage... he's our top scorer and one of the few near consistant goalscorer's we have..... u meant to leave out a man with 65 international goals for others who have 2 and 3 goals???he may have an undesireable workrate to you but at the end of the day he tends to get the job done so i think allyuh should HYMC on this topic... the WC starting and the players cant do with all this retarded negativity abt them... stern is the man!!!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 06, 2006, 02:03:09 PM
now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his workl rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......

wah yal;l; thuink?

leaving out stern is not an option at this stage... he's our top scorer and one of the few near consistant goalscorer's we have..... u meant to leave out a man with 65 international goals for others who have 2 and 3 goals???he may have an undesireable workrate to you but at the end of the day he tends to get the job done so i think allyuh should HYMC on this topic... the WC starting and the players cant do with all this retarded negativity abt them... stern is the man!!!

I think its only a few people calling for Stern's head realistically. Even the haters saying he is the least of several evils. Apparently some of them think Cornel Glenn and Jones are better strikers than Stern. They are entitled to their opinion and the coach is entitled to his. Beenie is the best coach we have ever had I will support with any decision he makes.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: trininess on June 06, 2006, 02:04:30 PM
bruddah relax yuhself bout HYMC....me and u iz nuh no friends.....and u rather go woth a veteran that throwing 4 5 scoring chances a game or a younster who playing less yrs so obviously wont have as much goals.....but who can threaten a defence more than stern....?????
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: berris on June 06, 2006, 03:02:06 PM
put it this way Stern cud score 100000000 goals for TnT and man go still be hatin .... all yuh really believe Stern score 65 goals for TnT by FLUKE ,ok ah give all yuh de benifit ah de doubt leh we say all he goals score by FLUKE ..well ah still taking 65 FLUKES anyday before glenn.jones,samuels whoever on de squad  ...oh gawd man all yuh real unreasonable or just plain dohtish  ...ah mean is one ting to give constructive criticizm buh to try and justify benching TnT leading goal scorer up to date and counting by far,becuz 'he does throway too much'
imo is pure ignorance as all strikers does throway but not all does score 65 goals.When Stern stop scoring goals all yuh cud call for he head but right now he is de only striker on TnT  that Sweden, England and Paraguay know cud put water in dey eye,yuh really tink dem fellas worried bout  Cornell and Jones .
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: injunchile on June 06, 2006, 03:20:07 PM
Trust me - the fellas read this site like Jumbie.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: 1989 on June 06, 2006, 05:39:51 PM
put it this way Stern cud score 100000000 goals for TnT and man go still be hatin .... all yuh really believe Stern score 65 goals for TnT by FLUKE ,ok ah give all yuh de benifit ah de doubt leh we say all he goals score by FLUKE ..well ah still taking 65 FLUKES anyday before glenn.jones,samuels whoever on de squad  ...oh gawd man all yuh real unreasonable or just plain dohtish  ...ah mean is one ting to give constructive criticizm buh to try and justify benching TnT leading goal scorer up to date and counting by far,becuz 'he does throway too much'
imo is pure ignorance as all strikers does throway but not all does score 65 goals.When Stern stop scoring goals all yuh cud call for he head but right now he is de only striker on TnT  that Sweden, England and Paraguay know cud put water in dey eye,yuh really tink dem fellas worried bout  Cornell and Jones .
Well Said!
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: saga pinto on June 06, 2006, 07:25:50 PM
put it this way Stern cud score 100000000 goals for TnT and man go still be hatin .... all yuh really believe Stern score 65 goals for TnT by FLUKE ,ok ah give all yuh de benifit ah de doubt leh we say all he goals score by FLUKE ..well ah still taking 65 FLUKES anyday before glenn.jones,samuels whoever on de squad  ...oh gawd man all yuh real unreasonable or just plain dohtish  ...ah mean is one ting to give constructive criticizm buh to try and justify benching TnT leading goal scorer up to date and counting by far,becuz 'he does throway too much'
imo is pure ignorance as all strikers does throway but not all does score 65 goals.When Stern stop scoring goals all yuh cud call for he head but right now he is de only striker on TnT  that Sweden, England and Paraguay know cud put water in dey eye,yuh really tink dem fellas worried bout  Cornell and Jones .

Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple
Title: Re: starters...logical??
Post by: nobody_s angel on June 06, 2006, 07:46:26 PM
now stern has been huge for us when needed..... and i am not lashing out against him...but as a striker his work rate is poor.....and he does not run at the defence to threaten dem in anyway, he simply waits for the ball to be at his convenience to decide to play....now against the teams we are facing wud it be more sensible to start with Kenwyne or Cornell or scotty even who young fresh andwill run at the defenceand also work fuh d ball......

wah yal;l; thuink?

I liked how you put it basically I agree with you. ;)

I have been called negative a Stern hater and some other things on this site and elsewhere but this is my point.

The man has an incredible record. Yes it may be because he plays every game but he only gives 55% Imagine how good the man will be and how much less aspirin I will have to take if he even gives 80%.

All I ask of the man is to give more. Run more complain less. And he will reach greatness we as a team will be great.

In the Bahrain game in Bahrain was the first time I actually saw Stern run down the ball and reach past the halfway line he actually was playing defence. Honestly all knocks aside he didn't score in that game but I was happy with his performance cause he gave 100% he ran after everything I almost cried.

I will be silly to think that a striker is supposed to score in every match, but at this level you should not be consistently missing the easy goals.

Anyway we have a few more days to go so I going to give Stern a rest, stop watching the cardboard cutout of him in hilo cross and stop planning to tip it over in frustration and mind you is not frustration over the fact that I do not like the man. Like has nothing to do with it but he could work harder. It is time we stop settling. I am frustrated because I believe in my team and as a result I believe in him.

Good Luck to all the warriors out there God bless and give 200% ;D ;D



Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Midknight on June 06, 2006, 07:57:25 PM
Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple

THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE LAST TIME I POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT BEING TOP OF THE LIST ON THE EVE OF OUR MATCH AGAINST SWEDEN
Saga, tell me what TOP international teams Stern didn't score against. While you at it, tell me what TOP international teams Trinidad ever play...Thirdly, tell me how many OTHER trinidadians score against these same top teams

Let me answer me own question.
 1   1   1   15- 2-95   Port of Spain  Finland        2-1  
 2       1   29-11-95   Port of Spain  Norway         3-2  
 8       6   24-11-96   Port of Spain  USA            0-1   World Cup Qualifier
18      10    4- 2-98   Oakland        Mexico         2-4   Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
25   1  22    6- 5-99   Port of Spain  South Africa   2-0
29   3  28    8- 9-99   Miami          Colombia       4-3
39      31   25- 4-01   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-1   World Cup Qualifier
46      35   20- 6-01   Boston         USA            0-2   World Cup Qualifier
50      38    5- 9-01   Mexico City    Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
52      39   11-11-01   Port of Spain  USA            0-0   World Cup Qualifier  
59      45   10- 9-03   Marrakesh      Morocco        0-2
60   1  46   31- 3-04   Cairo          Egypt          1-2
62   1  49   30- 5-04   Edinburgh      Scotland       1-4
68   1  53    8- 9-04   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-3   World Cup Qualifier
70      55   13-10-04   Puebla         Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
74      56    9- 2-05   Port of Spain  United States  1-2   World Cup Qualifier
80      59    8- 6-05   Monterrey      Mexico         0-2   World Cup Qualifier
83      59   12- 7-05   Miami          Colombia       0-2   Gold Cup
84      59   17- 8-05   East Hartford  United States  0-1   World Cup Qualifier
88   2  64   12-10-05   Port of Spain  Mexico         2-1   World Cup Qual.
91      64    1- 3-06   London         Iceland        2-0
92      64   10-05-06   Port of Spain  Peru           1-1

Thats 11 in 28 if you include the last official matches. better than a goal every three matches. I even left you the benefit of the doubt by taking away the matches against Venezuala (where he scored) and leaving those against Peru (where he didn't)
If by world class you mean the US, yes, Stern cannot score against World Class opposition. If by World Class you mean Czech and Slovenia (once each) yes Stern cannot score against World Class. opposition... Now I want to count how many goals we get outside of Stern's against this same World Class opposition

STEUPS - THIS THREAD IS WORLD CLASS BS...
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jah Gol on June 06, 2006, 08:26:16 PM
Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple

THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE LAST TIME I POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT BEING TOP OF THE LIST ON THE EVE OF OUR MATCH AGAINST SWEDEN
Saga, tell me what TOP international teams Stern didn't score against. While you at it, tell me what TOP international teams Trinidad ever play...Thirdly, tell me how many OTHER trinidadians score against these same top teams

Let me answer me own question.
 1   1   1   15- 2-95   Port of Spain  Finland        2-1   
 2       1   29-11-95   Port of Spain  Norway         3-2   
 8       6   24-11-96   Port of Spain  USA            0-1   World Cup Qualifier
18      10    4- 2-98   Oakland        Mexico         2-4   Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
25   1  22    6- 5-99   Port of Spain  South Africa   2-0
29   3  28    8- 9-99   Miami          Colombia       4-3
39      31   25- 4-01   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-1   World Cup Qualifier
46      35   20- 6-01   Boston         USA            0-2   World Cup Qualifier
50      38    5- 9-01   Mexico City    Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
52      39   11-11-01   Port of Spain  USA            0-0   World Cup Qualifier 
59      45   10- 9-03   Marrakesh      Morocco        0-2
60   1  46   31- 3-04   Cairo          Egypt          1-2
62   1  49   30- 5-04   Edinburgh      Scotland       1-4
68   1  53    8- 9-04   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-3   World Cup Qualifier
70      55   13-10-04   Puebla         Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
74      56    9- 2-05   Port of Spain  United States  1-2   World Cup Qualifier
80      59    8- 6-05   Monterrey      Mexico         0-2   World Cup Qualifier
83      59   12- 7-05   Miami          Colombia       0-2   Gold Cup
84      59   17- 8-05   East Hartford  United States  0-1   World Cup Qualifier
88   2  64   12-10-05   Port of Spain  Mexico         2-1   World Cup Qual.
91      64    1- 3-06   London         Iceland        2-0
92      64   10-05-06   Port of Spain  Peru           1-1

Thats 11 in 28 if you include the last official matches. better than a goal every three matches. I even left you the benefit of the doubt by taking away the matches against Venezuala (where he scored) and leaving those against Peru (where he didn't)
If by world class you mean the US, yes, Stern cannot score against World Class opposition. If by World Class you mean Czech and Slovenia (once each) yes Stern cannot score against World Class. opposition... Now I want to count how many goals we get outside of Stern's against this same World Class opposition

STEUPS - THIS THREAD IS WORLD CLASS BS...

I couldn't believe saga pinto could make such an erroneous assertion. Why should we berate a man who for all intents and purposes is the best in his position for our national team. To  prove that Stern John is not a world class striker like Ronaldo, Shevchenko or Eto'o. I don't see the point in pinto saying Stern can't make the grade days before the biggest tournament we have ever played in kicks off when the man is perhaps our best hope of scoring goals at the World Cup.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on June 06, 2006, 08:35:37 PM
Yuh no we trinis is real pressure yes ,allyuh no everything,listen meh brother marco van basten was the best at scoring goals in his time at club level,similar to what stern did in the mls and for T&T in the concacaf region,but where the two are mostly similar is when yuh put them to play for there country against top international teams,they could,nt make the grade,plain and simple

THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE LAST TIME I POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT BEING TOP OF THE LIST ON THE EVE OF OUR MATCH AGAINST SWEDEN
Saga, tell me what TOP international teams Stern didn't score against. While you at it, tell me what TOP international teams Trinidad ever play...Thirdly, tell me how many OTHER trinidadians score against these same top teams

Let me answer me own question.
 1   1   1   15- 2-95   Port of Spain  Finland        2-1   
 2       1   29-11-95   Port of Spain  Norway         3-2   
 8       6   24-11-96   Port of Spain  USA            0-1   World Cup Qualifier
18      10    4- 2-98   Oakland        Mexico         2-4   Gold Cup 98 Rd 1
25   1  22    6- 5-99   Port of Spain  South Africa   2-0
29   3  28    8- 9-99   Miami          Colombia       4-3
39      31   25- 4-01   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-1   World Cup Qualifier
46      35   20- 6-01   Boston         USA            0-2   World Cup Qualifier
50      38    5- 9-01   Mexico City    Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
52      39   11-11-01   Port of Spain  USA            0-0   World Cup Qualifier 
59      45   10- 9-03   Marrakesh      Morocco        0-2
60   1  46   31- 3-04   Cairo          Egypt          1-2
62   1  49   30- 5-04   Edinburgh      Scotland       1-4
68   1  53    8- 9-04   Port of Spain  Mexico         1-3   World Cup Qualifier
70      55   13-10-04   Puebla         Mexico         0-3   World Cup Qualifier
74      56    9- 2-05   Port of Spain  United States  1-2   World Cup Qualifier
80      59    8- 6-05   Monterrey      Mexico         0-2   World Cup Qualifier
83      59   12- 7-05   Miami          Colombia       0-2   Gold Cup
84      59   17- 8-05   East Hartford  United States  0-1   World Cup Qualifier
88   2  64   12-10-05   Port of Spain  Mexico         2-1   World Cup Qual.
91      64    1- 3-06   London         Iceland        2-0
92      64   10-05-06   Port of Spain  Peru           1-1

Thats 11 in 28 if you include the last official matches. better than a goal every three matches. I even left you the benefit of the doubt by taking away the matches against Venezuala (where he scored) and leaving those against Peru (where he didn't)
If by world class you mean the US, yes, Stern cannot score against World Class opposition. If by World Class you mean Czech and Slovenia (once each) yes Stern cannot score against World Class. opposition... Now I want to count how many goals we get outside of Stern's against this same World Class opposition

STEUPS - THIS THREAD IS WORLD CLASS BS...

I couldn't believe saga pinto could make such an erroneous assertion. Why should we berate a man who for all intents and purposes is the best in his position for our national team. To  prove that Stern John is not a world class striker like Ronaldo, Shevchenko or Eto'o. I don't see the point in pinto saying Stern can't make the grade days before the biggest tournament we have ever played in kicks off when the man is perhaps our best hope of scoring goals at the World Cup.


funny too... is that Saga is ah rel figures and stastics man... well... when it comes to stern the fiurgives statisctics which to him i would suppose is as hard an evidence as there is... is all for Stern... cant have much of a better record... I think on this site sometimes fellahz dont really satate what they really think and alter there real opinion to cater to what other certain people have already posted... I discussed this with TriniCana for a while actually...

people sometimes jump on the wagon so to speak...


so maybe we shouldnt take it on... poeople go say chupidness.
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: trininess on June 06, 2006, 09:53:57 PM
yall really nuh understanding wah me and saga saying nah.....so men like yall whpo feel yall know everything.....we will leave alone......cuz if yall understood football and played(especially) u wud understand where we coming from....but to each is own......dis is ah time to unite so well unite for now.,....
Title: Re: #14 IS D WORSE TING IN A TUGS
Post by: Jefferz on June 06, 2006, 10:06:21 PM
yall really nuh understanding wah me and saga saying nah.....so men like yall whpo feel yall know everything.....we will leave alone......cuz if yall understood football and played(especially) u wud understand where we coming from....but to each is own......dis is ah time to unite so well unite for now.,....
funny i play alot of it and you can ask anyone im quite god enough... so much for assumtions eh?
Title: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: redtrinigirl on July 10, 2006, 08:25:24 AM
...get this putting hand over de heart ting from, during the anthem? I have been meaning to bring dat up for months, since last year.

Every school chile in T&T knows, you stand at attention, with your hands at your side. The whole team doing it, but Stern "love-ah-gallery" John have to be de only one who doh know de customs of his own country and put his hand over his heart. It gets me vex every time I see it. It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time. Sigh.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 10, 2006, 08:58:24 AM
...get this putting hand over de heart ting from, during the anthem? I have been meaning to bring dat up for months, since last year.

Every school chile in T&T knows, you stand at attention, with your hands at your side. The whole team doing it, but Stern "love-ah-gallery" John have to be de only one who doh know de customs of his own country and put his hand over his heart. It gets me vex every time I see it. It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time. Sigh.


A ....wha else all yuh go come wid boy fust he eh score,den he play shit now what, 'he doh know de customs of his own country' ...you cyar be serious, this have to be a joke ? De man never disrespect the flag or his country and he's not the only football player that places his hand over his heart (if you use to watch international football  on ah regular basis, you would know this ).After years of national team duty you now decide to come up with this bullsh!it,wham yuh cudd'nt fine nothing else more constructive to criticize.steeeuuuppppppppsssi.You sounding like one ah dem 'red trini gyul' that geh break heart from Stern and now yuh have axe tuh grind,after all what is yuh point here that we should take Stern back to school and teach him how to Stand for de national anthem !!!!
.........STEEEEUUUPPPPPS get ah life gyul !!!!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: FireBrand on July 10, 2006, 09:12:52 AM
buh wa de jail is dis.... You serious?  Now dat World Cup done some people have nuff time on dey hands..... steups!!!!!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: grskywalker on July 10, 2006, 09:18:16 AM
I don't see your point at all. How many times you go to the stadium and people doing everything else but standing at attention for the Anthem. Doh start no chupidness here at all. Respect everyone of them who represented us
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Warrior till death on July 10, 2006, 10:11:06 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
BUT WHAT DE ASS IS DIS??!!
dat question make my day yes!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Warrior till death on July 10, 2006, 10:13:14 AM
u hadda undastand that as long as you standing upright and still during the anthem that you are doing the correct thing!
Putting your hand on your heart actually shows more respect for the anthem and inturn the country!
u obviously doh watch to much football yes............cuz almost all footballers do that
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: big dawg on July 10, 2006, 10:25:43 AM
After the Warriors strided into history and made all of us proud.... people complaining about Stern John hand on his heart during the Anthem..  Lawd

If anybody else have something irrelevant to say.. just put it in this thread and done instead of starting a new topic and making other forumites mad...
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Dutty on July 10, 2006, 10:33:29 AM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: injunchile on July 10, 2006, 11:07:19 AM
THIS is a classic case of Majoring in Minors.
 Oh Well, Men/ Women looking for excitement- W/C Tabanca
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Midknight on July 10, 2006, 11:18:21 AM
Whattap!!!

Take pong  :devil:

NAh to be quite honest, I just waiting on she to cuss Dwight for fumbling the words to the anthem when he singing...  ;D
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: grskywalker on July 10, 2006, 11:19:47 AM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: rowdy on July 10, 2006, 11:20:16 AM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough
;D
(http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/nahrung/e045.gif)
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: grskywalker on July 10, 2006, 11:22:10 AM
REDTRINIGIRL- You have disturbed a hornet's nest, keep that in mind next time you want to bring up another meaningless topic
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: futbolfan on July 10, 2006, 11:54:15 AM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough

why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Dutty on July 10, 2006, 11:58:12 AM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough

why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.

EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!

..and you mean to tell me birchall coudnt work on he tan ah little bit??..put on ah afro wig or someting?  :-\

He spoilin de contrast fuh people with balck and white flim in dey cyamera man
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: big dawg on July 10, 2006, 12:00:17 PM
this thread is a joke...should be in the joke section.... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 10, 2006, 12:01:15 PM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough

why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.

EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!

..and you mean to tell me birchall coudnt work on he tan ah little bit??..put on ah afro wig or someting?  :-\

He spoilin de contrast fuh people with balck and white flim in dey cyamera man

Not to mention dis frigging Shaka only chewing gum all de time wen de anthem playing like he eh know is bad manners to chew with yuh mouth open or what .....wey yuh redtrinigirl we giving more usefull information fuh yuh to start another jack a$$ topic
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: arrow on July 10, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
I fine ALL de players shoulda keep dey shirt tuck in at ALL times
It eh look neat man........on top ah dat not everybody socks was pull up high enough

why Sancho is de only man in de picture dat have ah dread....he should conform and get ah proper trim like everybody else...It looks so bad, spoils the pic of the team every time.

not only that...those dreads cost us the world cup trophy
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: futbolfan on July 10, 2006, 12:28:44 PM
too many damn multi coloured tugs (boots)...why de nite b4 game  dem didn't vote on wha iz de game day colour.....
and while ah at it.... why Lawerence doe replace dem gold teeth/cap he have een...platinum does look much better on ah polaroid....
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: big dawg on July 10, 2006, 12:31:45 PM
Why the ass they play with long sleeve jerseys against paraguy.... who dey fell dey is Beckham...
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: kicker on July 10, 2006, 12:52:15 PM
Why Whitley doh shave that lil piece of goatee under his chin ? Who he feel he is ? Sizzla ? .....and dem corn rows on his head like iz a rap video.........steupssss !!!

 :rotfl:

Thread of the month !!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: sprog on July 10, 2006, 01:18:21 PM
while we at it let's petition to have goal keepers wear the same uniform as the rest of the team, better for the photos. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Jefferz on July 10, 2006, 01:24:07 PM
Once he sing de song de same way with the same intent and the same passion it doh matter if he wanna put he hand on he chest... the man love he nation... I'de get on he back for something else rather than this... look if yuh pissed off at Stern John... then just ask disgruntle for some hate material...  :beermug:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 10, 2006, 02:25:57 PM
all yuh men (and women) is good kix yes, good kix thread.  Dread, all yuh tink Gordon Banks culda save dat header yesterday?  ;D
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: big dawg on July 10, 2006, 02:29:02 PM
all yuh men (and women) is good kix yes, good kix thread. Dread, all yuh tink Gordon Banks culda save dat header yesterday? ;D

yeah man.. of course....if he had on a bullet proff vest :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 10, 2006, 02:51:45 PM
wey I want to know is, wey redtrinigirl ? not ah appearance since the topic start....wham wey yuh gorn !!! ??? 
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: vb on July 10, 2006, 03:17:28 PM
DAMN!!

Dis hadda be PONG o' de month.

VB
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: truetrini on July 10, 2006, 04:27:15 PM
de real question:  "why TI so damn dunce?"
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Jefferz on July 10, 2006, 04:35:02 PM
de real question:  "why TI so damn dunce?"

das not a question thats an enigmatic form of life... its best complimented by the phrase "ignorance is bliss"
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: truetrini on July 10, 2006, 04:49:18 PM
all dem A's yuh get have yuh have meh head spinning with all dem big words.

lol
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Mr Mc on July 10, 2006, 07:11:40 PM
i dont know which one, but this thread in the running for an end of the year award
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 10, 2006, 08:31:58 PM
   
                              WANTED WANTED WANTED

      redtrinigirl has been missing in action since TUTU ING on de board and not cleaning it up !!

                              WANTED WANTED WANTED
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: davyjenny on July 10, 2006, 08:38:24 PM
 insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on July 10, 2006, 08:41:58 PM

just ask disgruntle for some hate material...  :beermug:


and I have plenty of that, I does drink real Haterade where he is concerned

and while we at it why Dog alwas have to look like he get a session before every game
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 10, 2006, 08:45:27 PM
insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.

correction Wednesday
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Jefferz on July 10, 2006, 08:48:03 PM

just ask disgruntle for some hate material...  :beermug:


and I have plenty of that, I does drink real Haterade where he is concerned

and while we at it why Dog alwas have to look like he get a session before every game

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Is all de faith healing boy.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: andre samuel on July 10, 2006, 09:29:49 PM
ah hope de chick who start de topic ent gone and kill she self!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: trinbago on July 10, 2006, 09:57:15 PM
I just think if Zidane did teach everyone of the Soca Warriors to give a header like he did yesterday so the opposing team could receive some chess trap we could ah probably reach the semis at least !!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: redtrinigirl on July 11, 2006, 04:06:11 AM
Wow, well done. This was a joke, meant to get a reaction and it did. Congrats  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: pass(10trini) on July 11, 2006, 04:45:00 AM
Wow, well done. This was a joke, meant to get a reaction and it did. Congrats  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Redz....like yuh trying to turn it around :banginghead:.....good try but we know what yuh did mean tuh say .

Yuh have pong tuh tek fuh de ress ah de day. ;D

As ah on de topic........

We eh score ah flickin goal in de World Cup. ;D
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: redtrinigirl on July 11, 2006, 05:09:38 AM
Pong away then, I doh mind atall.

But it was meant to stir things up. The board was too bloody boring yesterday. I was looking through my photos from the WC (yes, I do that every other day, sigh) and saw a couple where everyone else is standing at attention, hands to the sides, or at their backs, and there is star boy, hand on chest. In every one of the pics. I found it funny. Who vex loss.

Oh gosh, the WC done, what else we gonig to do? We've psycho-analyzed the intricacies of what to do with the team, who going to be the coach, 2010, government spending, or not spending, stress, stress and more stress.

Let's have a laugh.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: arrow on July 11, 2006, 06:02:55 AM
How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting  :o

And everybody hands by their sides please!

yes some of our players put there hands accross there chest when d anthem playing shame shame. what is dat? we have 2 copy everything we see? steups. hands by your side plz

I noticed the hands by the heart thing at home and in Bahrain -  oh lawwwwwwd Trinis could copy people eh? 

It is a VERY American thing - I don't see other countries' citizens doing it - but I notice it more becoming our culture.....WHYYYYYYYYY????  Because they see it on TV so it must be cool to do.....if I had one wish it's that Trinis would lead more and follow less.....I will tell u if is one thing we could learn from Jamaicans is that - lead and people will figure it out in time....doh conform......sigh :-[

yeah wen i see de hand on de chest i does get vex...daz american ting...hands at the side and stand up straight...pple does be pose up slouching all kinda ting...how hard it is to stand straight for a two mins for we song?!!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Brownsugar on July 11, 2006, 06:18:34 AM
How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting  :o

And everybody hands by their sides please!

yes some of our players put there hands accross there chest when d anthem playing shame shame. what is dat? we have 2 copy everything we see? steups. hands by your side plz

I noticed the hands by the heart thing at home and in Bahrain -  oh lawwwwwwd Trinis could copy people eh? 

It is a VERY American thing - I don't see other countries' citizens doing it - but I notice it more becoming our culture.....WHYYYYYYYYY????  Because they see it on TV so it must be cool to do.....if I had one wish it's that Trinis would lead more and follow less.....I will tell u if is one thing we could learn from Jamaicans is that - lead and people will figure it out in time....doh conform......sigh :-[

yeah wen i see de hand on de chest i does get vex...daz american ting...hands at the side and stand up straight...pple does be pose up slouching all kinda ting...how hard it is to stand straight for a two mins for we song?!!

 :applause: :applause:
Oh laaawwwddd....ah love it!!! (copyright Andre Samuel)....and somehow ah wasn't surprised dat Berris was de first one to lead de charge...

 :)
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Dutty on July 11, 2006, 06:34:19 AM
How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting  :o


Because it was relevant back then.........timing is everything


and you self too, when ato post dat...if berris did see it back den,,wuh yuh tink woulda happen?  ;D
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: fishs on July 11, 2006, 07:37:49 AM
  Ah still cyar understand why man does get vex when ah standing straight straight an singing de anthem but in between "every creed an race find ah equal place" an "an may god bless we warrior nation", ah does take ah lil drink to wet mih vocal chords so dat ah could finish with mih strong baritone.

 Ah doh feel ah disrepecting anybody.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 11, 2006, 08:25:09 AM
Pong away then, I doh mind atall.

But it was meant to stir things up. The board was too bloody boring yesterday. I was looking through my photos from the WC (yes, I do that every other day, sigh) and saw a couple where everyone else is standing at attention, hands to the sides, or at their backs, and there is star boy, hand on chest. In every one of the pics. I found it funny. Who vex loss.

Oh gosh, the WC done, what else we gonig to do? We've psycho-analyzed the intricacies of what to do with the team, who going to be the coach, 2010, government spending, or not spending, stress, stress and more stress.

Let's have a laugh.


Why yuh eh just come out and admit yuh post ah jacka$$ topic and leave it at dat ,yuh want to save face now and say yuh was just joking......doh try dat...take yuh pong !!! and while we on de topic why Lawerence had to be so tall,he head only sticking outta the picture !!! ;D 
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: berris on July 11, 2006, 08:39:24 AM
How come nobody pong boss, freakazoid, Ato and NYTriniwhiteboy when they did post de same ting  :o


Because it was relevant back then.........timing is everything


and you self too, when ato post dat...if berris did see it back den,,wuh yuh tink woulda happen?  ;D

I did not see ato post bout the 'hand on de chest thing' back then, but the type ah bullsh!t he does post here I eh surprise.For sure he's one ah de few dat wud agree with redtrinigirl and dis TATA topic she come up with. 
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: truetrini on July 11, 2006, 08:41:29 AM
  Ah still cyar understand why man does get vex when ah standing straight straight an singing de anthem but in between "every creed an race find ah equal place" an "an may god bless we warrior nation", ah does take ah lil drink to wet mih vocal chords so dat ah could finish with mih strong baritone.

 Ah doh feel ah disrepecting anybody.

You does do dat too?

Oh gorm I thought it was only me!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: andre samuel on July 11, 2006, 08:50:44 AM
i never saw this ah ever being a topic, arrow!!

ah comment and a topic are two different things!!
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: kicker on July 11, 2006, 08:55:24 AM
  Ah still cyar understand why man does get vex when ah standing straight straight an singing de anthem but in between "every creed an race find ah equal place" an "an may god bless we warrior nation", ah does take ah lil drink to wet mih vocal chords so dat ah could finish with mih strong baritone.

 Ah doh feel ah disrepecting anybody.

haha...yeah in between those lines, yuh's hadda find a way to restore yuh baritone fuh de finale...I's just breathe deep swallow a lil saliva..... :rotfl:
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: warmonga on July 11, 2006, 09:10:51 AM
insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
and here comes davejenny to de rescue!!!!!!!!! Jack was sober when he told you dat DJ?  ;D ;D ;D
warmonga..
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: samo on July 11, 2006, 09:27:47 AM

Quote
and here comes davejenny to de rescue!!!!!!!!! Jack was sober when he told you dat DJ?   
warmonga..

LOL allyuh not nice...
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: MickeyRat on July 11, 2006, 09:35:09 AM
I feel the woman who start this thread is Denise Belfon.  Really..look at she words.
Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: pass(10trini) on July 11, 2006, 09:44:46 AM
insider:stern will be back in england tomorrow.
and here comes davejenny to de rescue!!!!!!!!! Jack was sober when he told you dat DJ?  ;D ;D ;D
warmonga..


 :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Ah did see dat but ah eh say nuttin. ;D

Title: Re: Where de hell Stern John...
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on July 11, 2006, 02:17:20 PM
poor gyul ah jes hope she en start thinkin dat she cud fly like dat italian guy. p.s. stay away from tall buildins dear ;D
Title: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Tallman on September 15, 2006, 09:33:46 PM
What do you want to know about Trinidad & Tobago's most prolific goalscorer at the International level? Well, now is your chance to get up close and personal with Stern John.

In the inaugural issue of the Warrior Nation (http://www.thewarriornation.com) magazine, fans will get a chance to have their questions answered by Stern. In order to participate in this Q&A session, please e-mail your question(s) to publishing@thewarriornation.com. The deadline for submissions is Friday, September 22nd, 2006.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on September 15, 2006, 09:52:19 PM
where do I start

I need a pen and paper

4k dat I need a sketch pad cause is real questions
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Rastaman on September 15, 2006, 10:04:13 PM
Oh lawd.....anybody but Disgruntled_Trini ;D
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Jefferz on September 15, 2006, 10:55:24 PM
with disgruntle's input this maybe one of the most enthrawling articles i'll ever read...

get your coke some extra ice pop an extra bag of pop corn and buy a new surround sound system...

an epic battle may be unfolding out right before us...

and we have front row seats.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: supporter on September 16, 2006, 05:19:43 AM
where do I start

I need a pen and paper

4k dat I need a sketch pad cause is real questions

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: rippin on September 16, 2006, 10:01:28 AM
Stern, what did you do to Digruntled and have you ever made the effort to help him get over it?
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Dutty on September 19, 2006, 06:38:24 AM
1)  Were you content or very frustrated with your performance level at the world cup?

2) Do you have any tentative plans for retirement in the distant future?

3) Do you have a cousin named Berris?
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: maxg on September 19, 2006, 07:13:39 AM
Has your style/game changed since your knee injury at Notts. Forest ? Did it affect your National Team effectiveness ?

Does Conventry seem to be your final big club ?

How impressed are you with your younger strike partners, and can you help them develop to the point where they would be capable of replacing you in the future ?
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Baygo Boy on September 19, 2006, 07:34:15 AM
What in your opinion is wrong with the PFL?

What should clubs in T&T do to add credibility to there teams/players?

Compare the difference in attitudes towards the game between pro players in England, and pro players in T&T.

Share your thoughts on the Jack Warner controversy, and do you believe that a negative outcome would hamper T&T football?

What are your plans after your playing days are over - some have said that you may start a daycare is this in the works?  ;D :devil:

Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Cocorite on September 19, 2006, 08:24:51 AM
Stern,

Congratulations on a prolific career in national land international football. You've made a nation proud.

Something tells me we haven't seen the last of you yet inspite of all your accomplishments on the global stage.

Question: To what would you attribute your failure to explode at the EPL level with Birmingham? There is no question about your proven abilities. Would your injury sustained while at Forest have contributed to a tentative approach? Was it a lack of quality service? Thanks! Blessings for the future.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Jah Gol on September 19, 2006, 08:33:54 AM
Who is the best player you ever played with ?

Who is your favorite player ?

What do you have to say to the fans and armchair critics ?

Do you plan to play in the TT Pro League a the end of your career ?

What do you think about Leo's choice to limit Latapy's playing time ?

Will try for another World Cup ?

Name one thing necessary to improve the quality of football in Trinidad and Tobago ?

Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Peong on September 19, 2006, 09:56:46 AM
Allyuh read de part where Tallman say to send the questions to publishing@thewarriornation.com right??
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 19, 2006, 10:17:57 AM
1. Did you ever make it to the world cup? Stern: Yes I was deh on thee field for all thee games. Well I asked because no one seemed to have seen you.  :rotfl:

2. Between you and Yorke who do you think is better? Stern: I must say Yorke is the Master...I'm tryna follow his foot steps.  ;)

3. Why when yuh bother playing ball he does only be saying" time...time...time"? Stern: LOL He does still do that?  :rotfl:

Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: weary1969 on September 19, 2006, 10:55:48 AM
All raedy posted my question as I followed Tallman's instructions.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Peong on September 19, 2006, 11:14:43 AM
All raedy posted my question as I followed Tallman's instructions.

I just makin sure.  I guess everybody just copy their questions here.  Arright.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Andre on September 19, 2006, 02:34:26 PM
Q1: are there football groupies for championship players?

Q2: what is the difference in the calibre of championship groupies as compared to premiership groupies?

these is serious question.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Carib-Briton on September 20, 2006, 03:17:34 AM
Q1: are there football groupies for championship players?

Q2: what is the difference in the calibre of championship groupies as compared to premiership groupies?

these is serious question.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: MATADOR on September 20, 2006, 06:15:41 AM
Stern, when are you planning to retire?? especially from National Duty...

Can you on your way out take Jack along with you??

Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: TrinInfinite on September 20, 2006, 09:11:23 AM
bc of the injury you sustained b4 the WC, was this the reason for your change in playing style from when you played in the 2002 campaign?

what players currently in and out of trinidad would you say is most likely to to come close or surpass your scoring record..

who is your favorite tt player and why and also intl player and why

why do you think tt players are gettin snubbed for the EPL? Do you think tt players should explore other options in europe, rather than just the UK..
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on September 20, 2006, 09:55:40 AM
Stern, you really feel it right for you to be subjecting people to that display of shit game in, game out?
You really feel it right for you to be on a Breeze ad  with yuh moms?
How much children you really have? (we all want to know?
Wha went through yuh head when yuh miss that penalty against Mexico.
It has been rumoured that you fight down Scott Sealy, is there any truth to this?
It has also been rumoured that you Dwight and Russel have a floor for you selves in Crown Plaza, care to comment?
When T&T doh have possession of the ball does it ever occur to you to run back at all, or you jes to good for that?
You got a total of about 5 touches in 3 games at the world cup?
(i)Was it due to a lack of service?
(ii)Was it because you are static up top?
(iii)Do you think another striker who is a little more mobile would have done better?
Do you plan on retiring and if so when, give us a date, round it off so we have something to look forward to.
Do you consider your self a world class striker?
Given you prolific strike rate against such hardened defensive teams like Antigua, St Kitts and Barbados to name a few do you consider yourself T&T's best striker?
What areas of your game do you think you need to work on?
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Arazi on September 20, 2006, 11:45:53 AM
disgruntled, i so figga you was in chappelle show player hater's ball eh... jah u could hate on stern... :rotfl:
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Dutty on September 20, 2006, 12:04:23 PM
Lawd disgruntled...de man say questions...not an interrogation
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on September 20, 2006, 01:17:13 PM
disgruntled, i so figga you was in chappelle show player hater's ball eh... jah u could hate on stern... :rotfl:

(http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/haterade.gif) want some???
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: berris on September 20, 2006, 07:30:15 PM
INTERVIEW WITH STERN JOHN

Interviewer : Stern there is evidence,on this board, that you have ah horn
chile that you have never taken responsibility for,is that true?

Stern : Well there are certain things I'm not proud off and after
reading dis forum I realize I really f@$k up.

Interviewer : Wud you care tuh name and claim de outside child ?

Stern : I will come clean, as it is very clear for all to see how much
hate this ting my son has for me.
To make ah long story short... ah cokey eye one foot gyul
ketch mey drunk ah night coming outta ah club and ah was
weak so ah borrow meh padnah DUTTY ''rusty vauxhaul'' and
beat it properly in de back seat ....de rest is history ,4 months
later I get ah call from onezee saying ah have ah
premature born Disgruntled Trini child.

Interviewer : Made any attempt to contact your daughter son?

Stern : You hah tuh be piping ,yuh ever see how ugly that lil
f@$ker is ? dey say he is de fust child ever get money in he
hand tuh leave ah hospital becuz of he looks.
The child face cudda turn back ah stampede.

Interviewer : Well Stern it has been nice speaking to you,thanks for
clearing up alot of things for us as you can see your son
Disgruntled Trini is your worst enemy here and you can't
blame him after all you turned your back on him do you
think that one day you all can mend de relationship ?

Stern : To be honest over de years I have spent 4 million pounds
trying to get the best mental help for him but Doctors from
all over de world have come up with de same conclusion...
that ah marble smarter than him.They say his brain is de
equivalent to ah bigstone ,so is nuttin I cud do now.
When my career is over I may be going into hunting and I
wud need and few pothounds and if my horn chile
Disgruntled Trini is still barking like de dusbin terrier he really
is then maybe I'll have ah job for him and we can mend our
differences ....until den ...HI SON ...is me Daddy.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Mr Fix-it on September 21, 2006, 08:05:00 AM
INTERVIEW WITH STERN JOHN

Interviewer : Stern there is evidence,on this board, that you have ah horn
chile that you have never taken responsibility for,is that true?

Stern : Well there are certain things I'm not proud off and after
reading dis forum I realize I really f@$k up.

Interviewer : Wud you care tuh name and claim de outside child ?

Stern : I will come clean, as it is very clear for all to see how much
hate this ting my son has for me.
To make ah long story short... ah cokey eye one foot gyul
ketch mey drunk ah night coming outta ah club and ah was
weak so ah borrow meh padnah DUTTY ''rusty vauxhaul'' and
beat it properly in de back seat ....de rest is history ,4 months
later I get ah call from onezee saying ah have ah
premature born Disgruntled Trini child.

Interviewer : Made any attempt to contact your daughter son?

Stern : You hah tuh be piping ,yuh ever see how ugly that lil
f@$ker is ? dey say he is de fust child ever get money in he
hand tuh leave ah hospital becuz of he looks.


Interviewer : Well Stern it has been nice speaking to you,thanks for
clearing up alot of things for us as you can see your son
Disgruntled Trini is your worst enemy here and you can't
blame him after all you turned your back on him do you
think that one day you all can mend de relationship ?

Stern : To be honest over de years I have spent 4 million pounds
trying to get the best mental help for him but Doctors from
all over de world have come up with de same conclusion...
that ah marble smarter than him.They say his brain is de
equivalent to ah bigstone ,so is nuttin I cud do now.
When my career is over I may be going to hunting and I
wud need and few pothounds and if my horn chile
Disgruntled Trini is still barking like de dusbin terrier he really
is then maybe I'll have ah job for him and we can mend our
differences ....until den ...HI SON ...is me Daddy.


alyu do eat easy nah  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: ann3boys on September 21, 2006, 09:41:38 AM
by the way disgruntled, I like the ad with Stern and his mummy. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Carib-Briton on September 21, 2006, 09:46:06 AM
INTERVIEW WITH STERN JOHN

Interviewer : Stern there is evidence,on this board, that you have ah horn
chile that you have never taken responsibility for,is that true?

Stern : Well there are certain things I'm not proud off and after
reading dis forum I realize I really f@$k up.

Interviewer : Wud you care tuh name and claim de outside child ?

Stern : I will come clean, as it is very clear for all to see how much
hate this ting my son has for me.
To make ah long story short... ah cokey eye one foot gyul
ketch mey drunk ah night coming outta ah club and ah was
weak so ah borrow meh padnah DUTTY ''rusty vauxhaul'' and
beat it properly in de back seat ....de rest is history ,4 months
later I get ah call from onezee saying ah have ah
premature born Disgruntled Trini child.

Interviewer : Made any attempt to contact your daughter son?

Stern : You hah tuh be piping ,yuh ever see how ugly that lil
f@$ker is ? dey say he is de fust child ever get money in he
hand tuh leave ah hospital becuz of he looks.


Interviewer : Well Stern it has been nice speaking to you,thanks for
clearing up alot of things for us as you can see your son
Disgruntled Trini is your worst enemy here and you can't
blame him after all you turned your back on him do you
think that one day you all can mend de relationship ?

Stern : To be honest over de years I have spent 4 million pounds
trying to get the best mental help for him but Doctors from
all over de world have come up with de same conclusion...
that ah marble smarter than him.They say his brain is de
equivalent to ah bigstone ,so is nuttin I cud do now.
When my career is over I may be going to hunting and I
wud need and few pothounds and if my horn chile
Disgruntled Trini is still barking like de dusbin terrier he really
is then maybe I'll have ah job for him and we can mend our
differences ....until den ...HI SON ...is me Daddy.

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Coach on September 21, 2006, 07:30:22 PM
After our first game at the world cup, seeing that Latas was not used, did either you or Yorke try to speak to Beenie about playing Latas vs England, since you 2 are the next most senior players on team.

Now that you saw what Latas did vs Paraguay, do you have any regrets for not speaking on behalf of Latas, assuming that you didn't.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Peong on September 22, 2006, 07:35:38 AM
You have played for Nottingham Forrest, Birmingham City, Coventry City and a short stint at Derby. 
How hard is it to adjust when moving from club to club, city to city?
Is there anything that you do mentally in order to adjust?


Of all your goals, which was your technical favourite and which is your emotional favourite?


When next are we going to see "The Stern Turn"?


Do you prefer the left- or right-footed Stern Turn?


Can you send me a Coventry City #14 home jersey?
My address is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Thanks.


Peter


Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on September 22, 2006, 11:43:04 AM

Can you send me a Coventry City #14 home jersey?



yuh have plum to pick and car to wash?
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: dcs on September 22, 2006, 12:16:45 PM

1.  What point in your footballing development do you think was the most critical?

2.  At what age and with what team did you realise you were on your way?
Corny answer is "I always knew."  If that is your answer then maybe you can say when others in charge of your footballing development knew you were going to be a Professional player.

3.  What type of familiar scoring situations are your bread and butter?  Has this changed over the years?  (not counting simple tap ins)

4.  Which defense or defender in Concacaf do you most look forward to playing against?

5.  Do you invest in the stock market or have some investment portfolio?  (checking to see if we players $$ savvy   ;D)

6.  Do you think it is worthwhile for our Pro players to consider playing in the Mexican league.  Can you comment as a player what type of obstacles might prevent you from playing there?  It is arguably one of the most successful and lucrative leagues in the Western Hemisphere and one of the few that is able to tap into the lucrative US television market through Spanish stations.

7.  Do you believe opportunities for our players are limited by the narrow market focus of current agents?

8.  Have you ever had the urge to log into SW.net and comment on a topic?  Do you have an under cover agent on SW.net (no need to name names)   :rotfl:

9.  Ok this is a word association test to learn more about you.  Say the first thing that comes to mind when you hear:
     Disgruntled_trini
     Berris
     Hannibal
     Derby
     Warrior Nation
     Zen
     Pele
     South Africa


(if you'll have more suggestions for the word association post them...I will send this in later today)

Ok now for the Warrior Nation magazine people.
I suggest we do a little research on the submitted questions to see if he has answered them before.  Repeat questions are fine if they may have a new answer or just worth asking.
Title: Re: Questions for Stern John?
Post by: Peong on September 22, 2006, 12:32:13 PM
Whenever yuh gyul see de #14 she does give it up real easy lol
Title: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 08, 2006, 03:02:50 PM
Stern John will make his 100th cap for TnT on Wednesday against Panama

Love him or Hate him he deserves this tribute..


                                    .....STERN 14......



Pictures:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/stern2.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/stern1.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/vsPanama_06042005_2.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/stern.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/shaking_hands_11172005.jpg)
                 


Goals: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=14305.0

Stats
67 Goals in 99 Games!(included 2 goals vs SVG)   http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html


THERE IS ONLY ONE STERN "THE GOAL-SCORING MACHINE!" JOHN


Thank You Stern John

Small Magician
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: AB.Trini on October 08, 2006, 03:04:40 PM
All praise and credit for one who continually answers the call for TNT.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Bally on October 08, 2006, 04:27:39 PM
Men could say what they want Stern has score against some big teams they keep saying he only score them goals against poor opposition   
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Dr. Rat on October 08, 2006, 04:54:05 PM
Stern!!!!! # 1

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: g on October 08, 2006, 05:58:22 PM
Stern is a modern day legend in Trindad and Tobago Football, i think he will only be truly appreciated after he hangs up his boots and someone else has to fill it.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: WestCoast on October 08, 2006, 06:48:40 PM
ya lookin good out there
you must be workin real hard
thanks
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Jah Gol on October 08, 2006, 07:30:57 PM
For God so loved Trinidad and Tobago football that he sent us a goal-scorer. His name is Stern John.
(http://www.weltfussball.de/bilder/spieler/10001.jpg)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: saga pinto on October 08, 2006, 07:35:04 PM
?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: trinbago on October 08, 2006, 08:50:43 PM
No one can question where his heart and dedication lies when it comes to TnT football
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: SUPA on October 08, 2006, 09:09:13 PM
There is not much tuh say here, de man is just ah boss when it comes tuh scoring goals fuh T&T. Bless.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Peong on October 08, 2006, 09:17:20 PM
Nice post Small Magician.

Ah want to see a Stern Turn real bad!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Socapro on October 09, 2006, 04:31:51 AM
BIG-UP to Stern! T&T would not have been to our 1st World Cup if it wasn't for his MAJOR role in helping to get us there!

Stern has EARNED our respect and deserves this tribute!

Nice one SM! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Brownsugar on October 09, 2006, 05:10:30 AM
Ok ok...so he is not mih favourite player in de world, but give jack his Jacket....his goals did get us to de World Cup and he making he 100th Cap on Wednesday....

Must salute him for his efforts.... :beermug:
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: big dawg on October 09, 2006, 06:31:22 AM
That's our captain in South Africa?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: ricky on October 09, 2006, 08:29:57 AM
That's our captain in South Africa?

That was our captain for all the early round qualifiers before Yorke came back....Either he or Lawrence for nex rounds
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 09, 2006, 09:08:35 AM
That's our captain in South Africa?
yuh tink he will be still around.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: trinidad badboy on October 09, 2006, 09:16:28 AM


big up sten man all the time, great goal scorer
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Midknight on October 09, 2006, 09:39:49 AM
Vive the Stern Turn, Vive John Stern...

Respect to the one and only #14 :salute:
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Pointman on October 09, 2006, 09:40:00 AM
nice one small mags...that's my dog!!!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: weary1969 on October 09, 2006, 10:31:49 AM
The man is make we laugh and cry u have to be special to do that. Big up Stern.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: warmonga on October 09, 2006, 10:41:20 AM
Yes stern yu is a Boss. Anytime mi buck stern up him haffi sign an Autograph shirt fi mi, no joke. I memeber when stern scored dat hattrick against Coloumbia mi say to myself ...this guy is great!!!!  yu a de boss stern.
war..
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Socapro on October 10, 2006, 09:27:31 AM
We need to keep this tribute going! Stern makes his 100th CAP for T&T tomorrow!

Warrior Nation are we still planning that surprise? 8)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Darkromeo on October 10, 2006, 02:17:15 PM
He is truely one of our best. Nuff respect to d man. Is ah love hate thing we hav for him ah kinda Tobago love  ;D We are truely blessed to hav d man
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Remie on October 10, 2006, 03:48:17 PM
His goals against Mexico were priceless.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: john_public on October 10, 2006, 08:05:13 PM
great post dere  :applause:

i had a game tom, but being de 100th game for stern, i hav to be most present,

i`ll look out for de big flag eh fellars  ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 10, 2006, 09:21:44 PM
hope he scores 2moro...that would put the icing on the cake.....

 ..warmonga  i have his signature on my jersey
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Jumbie on October 11, 2006, 05:03:36 AM
Congrats to Mr. John and a special thankyou for his services to date. My fren half-slab, this is truly a milestone and I hope you know that all your efforts are truly appreciated by the fans especially me.. though I can be a "little" critical   ;)

Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: dreamer on October 11, 2006, 05:43:11 AM
I salute you Stern. You are a true Warrior who has put in heart and soul for T&T and persevered. Your achievements are not too be taken for granted. I compel all youngsters to get onto broadband right now and get an education on goal scoring by clicking on Sports, then Goals Galore Trinbago Style, then Stern John's goals and sit back and marvel at your performance which is there for posterity :beermug: :beermug:. Boss! Additional kudos on your new level of fitness, your exploits in Coventry and your mentoring of "Me Mum" Birchall
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: marcus on October 11, 2006, 09:12:41 AM





I was taught that if I have don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all..... so I keepin shut
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: grskywalker on October 11, 2006, 09:20:04 AM
I hope Stern scores a Hattrick today!!

STERNTURNINHO IN THEY TAIL TODAY!! Hope we give them 5 too!!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Socapro on October 11, 2006, 09:21:45 AM





I was taught that if I have don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all..... so I keepin shut

If that was true you would have refrain from posting that comment all together!  ::)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: marcus on October 11, 2006, 10:02:08 AM





I was taught that if I have don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all..... so I keepin shut

If that was true you would have refrain from posting that comment all together! ::)



did not say it, it was implied.... ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: fordy on October 11, 2006, 10:24:11 AM
from playin together in trincity to seeing him sit on the bench at eldo and still lead the team in scoring to seeing hime shine on the club and international scene...stern deserves all the praises and kudos he gets. he has never avoided his destiny to be one of trinidad and tobago's greatest players and i am glad he was blessed enough to fulfill ah coaches dream (Arthur "jap" Brown) who once said that this boy has the potential to become trinidad's all time leading goal scorer and an influential footballer in trinidad and tobago's history. who could have thought it would have been as important as it became.

nuff respect stern...yuh make trincity united and cane farm proud!!! :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: dreamer on October 11, 2006, 10:35:03 AM
Stern, I feel has 2 more ambitions he won't let go of. (1)To play in the Premier league and (2) to score a World Cup Goal. He was 1/2 a millimetre away from the 2nd until Terry desperately cleared the ball from the goal line against England. We were almost 1-0 against England with Sven cold sweating and London Bridge on the verge of collapse. Damn!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: WestCoast on October 11, 2006, 05:40:17 PM
Stern is 8th in the world for scoring for his country........score today and ya gobe 6th
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: saga pinto on October 11, 2006, 06:54:54 PM
That's our captain in South Africa?

That ent happening pardner,but I'm sure he'll be there...........
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: The_Ice on October 11, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
Stern is 8th in the world for scoring for his country........score today and ya gobe 6th

note that the man is 10 goals behind Pele and u could expect another WC campaign out of him... maybe a 2nd if he that good, though that kinda pushing it... but Pele lying in 3rd for the highest international goals ever,so it would be a great achievement for stern to get past him and maybe creat some space b4 he finally retire
Title: Re: A Tribute to Trinidad and Tobago's Greatest Striker...Stern John
Post by: Socapro on October 12, 2006, 03:55:13 AM
Stern is 8th in the world for scoring for his country........score today and ya gobe 6th

8th in the World for scoring for his country?! I didn't even realise dat!!

Major BIG-up to Stern keep up the goals and he could even challenge for no.1 score in the World for his country before he retires! 8)
Title: John fancies City's promotion bid.
Post by: FireBrand on November 03, 2006, 11:32:57 AM
John fancies City's promotion bid.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).


National team striker Stern John has outlined his belief that both the Sky Blues and his former club Birmingham City would be promotion contenders for the English Premiership this season. The former Blues favourite was left disappointed after Coventry City fell to a 1-0 reverse on Tuesday.
But the striker saw good signs from the game for both teams. He today he said it was vital that they came on strong at the business end of the season.
"Definitely we can look to the top six," said the Trinidad & Tobago star in the Coventry Telegraph.
"We just need to stay in the top half of the table until Christmas and then go for that run, like we did at Birmingham.
"You need to stay around the top 10 and hope you have all your players fit so you can put together a strong sequence of results.
"The real football begins right after Christmas. A lot of teams go on a run early then they hit a brick wall.
"If you can build momentum going to the end of the season, that's ideal. We have to compose ourselves and not panic.
It's a long season and with no-one really out of sight in this league, you need to get some consistency.
"Birmingham should be up there. They have a big squad and some decent players. The manager is good. I rate Steve Bruce.He knows how to get the best out of his players and as long as you work hard and are honest, he will play you."
John, who was Coventry's most dangerous player, paid tribute to Blues' defence.
"Credit to Birmingham. They have almost a Premiership team," he said.
"Tiny [Martin Taylor] and Jaidi are strong and very physical. In this league, you need that kind of presence.
"I think they coped with Kevin Kyle, Dele Adebola and myself really well. We needed to get the ball out wide and put crosses in the box because we were playing to their strengths lumping it up a bit.I guess we have a lot of stuff to work on still."
John had Coventry's best chances but he was a little bit rusty after missing more than a week due to an ankle wound that required stitches.
"I should have done better and hit the target with a few of mine," he admitted. But when you haven't trained for four or five games and you come straight back into it, you miss your sharpness and stuff. John has been called up by head coach Wim Rijsbergen for T&T's friendly versus Austria in Vienna on November 15."
Title: Stern John: Youngsters must set goals.
Post by: E-man on November 20, 2006, 06:25:50 PM
John: Youngsters must set goals.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).

 
A year and a few days marking this countrys qualification for Germany 2006, prolific goalscorer Stern John wants to see aspiring footballers and others in the various disciplines set themselves goals if they want to achieve success.
The Coventry City striker suffered a knee injury in Vienna on Tuesday and was forced to miss the friendly international against Austria.
But he has made it clear that he has always possessed a fighting spirit and will make a comeback. And he wants the younger generation to develop the same approach.
Young players need to set goals for themselves. They need to look closely at themselves and set out to what they want to achieve in life. It didnt just start one day for me by getting up and saying I want to be a footballer, it took years of hard work and sacrifice from a young age. And even today I am working hard and Im still the last guy to leave the training pitch.
Be your own player. Dont wait for your parents or coaches to tell you what to do. Its good to have good guidance but having your own ambitions and trying to achieve it on your own plays a major part in achieving the success. I remember also when my left foot was a lot weaker than my main right and I set out to change that. I worked on it and today sometimes I hit the ball better with my left side. The left leg is no longer just for balance or walking, John said in Vienna while out there with the Soca Warriors.
Dont let what we achieved on November 16 just be a one off. Let it be good memories and something that can inspire you to achieve even greater things, John added. Meantime, his injury is not too serious and he has been advised to rest for a week or more again before taking any further part on the pitch.
Title: Re: Stern John: Youngsters must set goals.
Post by: weary1969 on November 20, 2006, 08:45:43 PM
I pray it is not a one of. My peeps decide that we get the WC fever so we goin with our without the SW. I will much rather with.
Title: Re: Stern John: Youngsters must set goals.
Post by: dreamer on November 20, 2006, 08:48:02 PM
I definitely noticed John's left foot. He has amazing power in the left foot shot like the one he blasted from 18 yards against Mexico. A complete 2-footed player. Respec' Sternturninho :beermug:
Title: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: Tallman on February 22, 2007, 06:33:29 AM
Premier dream is still on
By Paul Gilder (The Journal)

 
Stern John has seen Sunderland at their best and their worst this season and, although he believes the Wearsiders cannot lose again if automatic promotion is to remain a realistic ambition, the striker is confident the Premiership is still within reach.

The Black Cats suffered a significant setback when DJ Campbell struck a last-gasp equaliser during Tuesday's dramatic draw at Birmingham and, although a failure to finish the job could cost Roy Keane's team dear, belief remains intact within the dressing room.

John had a hand in the club's first defeat this season - as a player who starred for Coventry on the opening afternoon of the campaign, scoring one of the goals that condemned Niall Quinn's men to a 2-1 reverse at the Ricoh Arena.

Having already been beaten 11 times in the league, Sunderland's automatic promotion challenge cannot sustain many more losses. But a player who has compared Keane's team to Quinn's is optimistic about the club's chances.

"The Sunderland team that I'm playing for is a totally different one to the one I played against at the start of the season," said the Trinidad and Tobago international, who exchanged the East Midlands for the North-East last month.

"The manager (Keane) has come in and assembled an entirely new squad with a different group of players. When I played against Sunderland, they seemed like a team in transition. But now, I think we are starting to look like a team who can really go places. The manager seems to have so many more options and all of the players are playing with a lot of confidence.

"We are a much better team than the one I played against - trust me on that."

Of the 11 players who lined up for the visitors at Coventry on August 6, just two (Dean Whitehead and Danny Collins) were in the team that started at St Andrew's this week.

It is a statistic which illustrates the full extent of Keane's squad restructuring and the last of the 12 players acquired by the Irishman during the last six months believes a new-look Sunderland can still succeed in their quest to finish in the top two and avoid the end-of-season play-offs.

"We have gelled together really quickly," said John. "A lot of players have come to Sunderland in the last few months but we are already playing as a team and that's important.

"We are going to need that unity in the last games of the season. It would have been worse if we didn't have the games to put things right, but there is still an awful lot of this season to go. As long as we keep on believing in ourselves, I am sure we will be all right."

The Wearsiders would have been in a far stronger position had their long-held lead been sustained at St Andrew's but with the Championship's top two sides to face over the next 10 days, Keane's team can still inflict damage on those above them in the standings.

"We wanted all three points (at Birmingham), of course we did," said John. "Sometimes you have to take a point against a team that is higher than you in the league. The main thing is that we got something. The game against Derby (at the Stadium of Light on Saturday) is obviously a big one now. If we're going to get promoted, we really cannot afford to lose any more games.

"We were all over Birmingham for large parts of the game but we didn't put the game to bed. That's something we're going to have to learn from in the games that lie ahead. There are a lot of positives to take out of the match, and we shouldn't forget that we were right on top for large periods of it. Conceding the late goal was an obvious disappointment, but we have to keep rolling with the punches and continue to believe in ourselves."

Sunderland's reserves will take on Shamrock Rovers in a friendly at the Stadium of Light on Sunday (noon). Entry is free, although Under-16s must be accompanied by an adult. Turnstiles will open at 11am and free car parking will be available on a first come, first served basis.

The club's Championship fixture against Barnsley at Oakwell on March 10 will now kick off at 1.30pm.
Title: Re: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: Jumbie on February 22, 2007, 07:38:04 AM
would be nice to see half-slab in the premiership, however if Sunderland does make it up it won't surprise me to see him back on another championship team...his luck is like that.

all the best to halfslab and the rest of the Trinbago sunderland team  8)
Title: Re: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: dreamer on February 22, 2007, 11:28:26 AM
would be nice to see half-slab in the premiership, however if Sunderland does make it up it won't surprise me to see him back on another championship team...his luck is like that.

all the best to halfslab and the rest of the Trinbago sunderland team 8)

Loaded with disrespect and unnecessary negativity. Pathetic. If you see him as a "slab" why wish him "all the best" anyway? I dare you to walk up to him at a stadium and say jess that.
Title: Re: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: Jumbie on February 22, 2007, 11:35:59 AM
would be nice to see half-slab in the premiership, however if Sunderland does make it up it won't surprise me to see him back on another championship team...his luck is like that.

all the best to halfslab and the rest of the Trinbago sunderland team  8)

Loaded with disrespect and unnecessary negativity. Pathetic. If you see him as a "slab" why wish him "all the best" anyway? I dare you to walk up to him at a stadium and say jess that.


Sure buddy! The same way you will go up to Jack warner and confront him?

Show me the disrespect... (a nick name that was coined on this same forum?)

Show me the negativity that was NOT already mentioned on this same forum...

Why not wish him the best?


doh take it personal, you're probably asleep and dreaming.



Title: Re: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: dreamer on February 22, 2007, 11:48:20 AM
I won't say I wish Jackula all the best because I don't. Simple, no hypocrisy. I wish that every man "jack" do a little to finish him off. I say he is a cancer that must be removed to keep the rest of the body alive, and I will stick by that. You go ahead and call Stern half-slab. This is the last I have to say to self-loathing disrespectful scum like you.

Title: Re: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: Jumbie on February 22, 2007, 12:05:50 PM
self-loathing disrespectful scum like you.


 ;D pot calling kettle black.


I guess you have no other choice, since you cannot address...

Show me the disrespect... (a nick name that was coined on this same forum?)

Show me the negativity that was NOT already mentioned on this same forum...

Why not wish him the best?


Title: Re: Stern John: Premier dream is still on
Post by: dreamer on February 22, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
"John opens Sunderland account"

Click for More Photos of the Mailman
Watch Stern's BBC Interview - Going  for Promotion


Stern John's official website:  http://www.sternjohn.com/

Respec' due  ;)
Title: looking for Stern John pics
Post by: rippin on March 08, 2007, 10:59:36 PM
Ladies and gentlemen a photoshop bug catch me. Time for a desktop change. I looking for a large Stern John pic in T & T kit (preferably training). Something similar to the Dwight below.

Source: http://www.thewarriornation.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,50/Itemid,29/
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,50/Itemid,29/)


Small version of final product
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4763/dwightyorke3smallep9.jpg)


In fact I looking for any Warrior pics. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: looking for Stern John pics
Post by: Tallman on March 09, 2007, 06:04:35 AM
Check our Soca Warriors Photo Gallery (http://www.socawarriors.net/gallery/). I haven't updated it in a while, but you should still be able to find plenty of pics.
Title: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: boss on March 27, 2007, 04:03:12 AM
It was exciting ;D

I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.
Title: Re: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: Bourbon on March 27, 2007, 07:19:53 AM
Yeh i did see him saturday goin and check he uncles. I go to cuss him and ask wha he doin home now...den i realise dat it was a international weekend...and he mother kinda sick these days......so he must be take some time off to check on her. I does have my problems with his work rate etc...buh i go give him his props.....he contributed a great deal to football with his goals. Thanks Stern. :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: boss on March 27, 2007, 07:59:53 AM
I went through the same thought process about the international weekend, but I didn't know about his mother. I hope she gets better soon  :beermug:

Title: Re: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on March 27, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
It was exciting ;D

I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.


yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect


I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.
Title: Re: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: futbolfan on March 27, 2007, 02:36:58 PM
It was exciting ;D

I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.


yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect


I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: talk is cheap...you have so much mouth....yuh always saying yuh go do dis and if yuh  only see stern it go be worries and de man was rite infront yuh face and yuh eh self let off ah steupppppsss  :rotfl:  you should just go back and delete every negative post yuh make bout he cause yuh lose all creditability.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: Grande on March 27, 2007, 03:54:54 PM
It was exciting ;D

I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.


yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect


I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.

 :rotfl:

you self Disgruntled, yuh coulda go up and ask him why he does pull stones and make people want to choke him sometimes

ent another time yuh had see him in Zen or 51 or something

yuh does always say yuh eh fraid to speak yuh mind about Stern but when yuh see him in person....whappen?  ;D
Title: Re: Stern John was on my flight to London yesterday!
Post by: Pointman on March 30, 2007, 05:45:43 PM
It was exciting ;D

I wanted to stand up and sing "Who needs Ronaldinho? We've got Sternaldinho" but I behaved myself.


yuh should ah stand up and bawl who needs Sternaldinho
matter of fact yuh should call Ronaldinho and apologise fo him for even adding "aldinho" on to Stern name that in and of itself is a disrespect


I see him Sat gone in Wings in Tunapuna alongisde Dwarika and some next saddist.
I feel to pick up he plate ah curry and pelt it fuss he does upset meh.

Wha made yuh decide to not do it?  the fact that he might sampat yuh wid licks perhaps ;D
Title: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: Bally on April 12, 2007, 08:47:26 AM
Q&A WITH STERN JOHN Q&A WITH STERN JOHN
 
What are among the highlights of the season for you?
 

 Being able to settle in quickly at the club. As a player you have to prove yourself even if you have a reputation to upkeep. Obviously it was about being able to show them here at the club what I was capable of and in that way its been just brilliant for me. Just to be in a team that is playing to my strength is great. I had been scoring goals at Coventry but they were not creating as many chances.

 Why did you go to Sunderland, Do you feel justified by this move now?
 

I think at the time the opportunity was a good one for me. If you look at where Sunderland were at the beginning of the season and where they are now you realize instantly that they have gone from strength to strength. Plus being able to join up with Dwight and then Carlos has been a bonus. The manager the kind of man he is also played a part. This was a chance for me to get back into the Premiership and enjoy my football.

Whats Roy Keanes mood like as a manger?
 

 I saw him as a player and I think we all saw him as the no-nonsense type of guy. Hes exactly the same as a manager but he can relate to you as a player. You dont want to be late for his meetings and sessions and thats a good standard to have as a player anywhere. If you want him to treat you like a little guy then he will do that and if you want to be treated as a big man then show him that and youll get it in return. If you dont do the business then he will give someone else a chance.
 

Is perfection a key at Sunderland?
 

Our team is a very competitive one. Roy Keane is a perfectionist and we train just has hard as we play. I think playing at Manchester United enables him to bring that kind of confidence to the team. As a manager he also looks after the players. The club on a whole does that. There are no excuses when its time to go out on the field and get the job done. This is important for any team.
 

Are you worried about more strikers coming in?

I think being here is a great chance for me to go back into the Premiership. I have nothing to prove really at this stage but its just about doing my best for the club and going back into one of the most exciting Leagues with some of the best players in the world. As a footballer thats what it is about. Dont get me wrong, our Division is a good one and competitive but as a player I think playing in the Premiership is always top of the list. As for the added competition, Im not so worried about it. What is to happen will happen. I just have to maintain my focus and shape.
 

 ?Have you planned the remaining time of your career. Are you satisfied with one more season in the PremiershipI want to have a couple seasons in the Premiership but football is a funny game and you never know what can happen, I will like to finish at playing at a high level. I know I have to stay in shape and keep on looking after myself. Hopefully I can get my rewards at the end of the day.
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 Whats the main advantage of having Dwight Yorke at the club? The players respect him. Dwight is Dwight anywhere. When he walks into a dressing room, he has that vibe he brings with him that can change the whole mood. If the guys are tense or down, he can help it and if we have a reason to be a bit more focused than usual, he can also take it up a notch and have the same kind of effect on the rest of us. Then he has that smile on his face and you need players like him in a dressing room. He always has the lads up and on the football side of it he knows how to get the best out of the players. His influence is massive in the dressing room and I think that is one of the main reasons the manager brought him here. Especially at this stage of the season where we are right in with a chance of being promoted, you need to have players like him around.
 

 And Carlos Edwards. He has made a big impact right?

 Carlos has been massive at the club and is definitely having a wonderful season. He is having the best run of his career in my view. The injury was unfortunate because he was flying at the time and the team missed him. But now hes back and he will perform. I think Carlos can definitely be on any Premiership team. He has the natural engine and can play at the top level. He has loads of potential and there are always players who dont fulfill all of it but he has a strong mindset and has a places to go. This is great for him.
 

 Stern you were at one time the bright, rising talent, the one most talked about and now your role is a different one having to play the support role and more of a leader type with guys like Carlos and Kenwyne Jones moving up the ranks. Whats this adjustment been like for you?
 

Thats the beauty of the game. As a young player coming into a team or trying to make your name you might get a bit worried when there are others around doing well. Its natural. Its not about being bad mind or anything like that because at the end of the day its all about the team. For me now, I have matured and when you mature you understand more that there will be players who get better, be better and worth more. Experience is the is the greatest asset and its a huge part of the game. Being in the game so long helps you to understand that at times you have to make way and make the best of what you have. I have done it before. I was topscorer at Birmingham and Columbus and I paid my dues at clubs like Nottingham Forest. Personally I can still say Im performing and can still get the job done so thats a boost for me. Its an important phase because this is a funny little game.

Shaun Fuentes Interview
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: Big Magician on April 12, 2007, 11:02:11 AM
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Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: Filho on April 12, 2007, 11:13:48 AM
Q&A WITH STERN JOHN Q&A WITH STERN JOHN
 
 Whats the main advantage of having Dwight Yorke at the club? The players respect him. Dwight is Dwight anywhere. When he walks into a dressing room, he has that vibe he brings with him that can change the whole mood. If the guys are tense or down, he can help it and if we have a reason to be a bit more focused than usual, he can also take it up a notch and have the same kind of effect on the rest of us. Then he has that smile on his face and you need players like him in a dressing room. He always has the lads up and on the football side of it he knows how to get the best out of the players. His influence is massive in the dressing room and I think that is one of the main reasons the manager brought him here. Especially at this stage of the season where we are right in with a chance of being promoted, you need to have players like him around.

Sounds like Dwight need to get into coaching when he is done. Sounds like a top class motivator and man manager. nothing seems to phase him and the quality of his playing career guarantees respect from any young hot up and comers who feel they done know it all
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: Grande on April 12, 2007, 11:42:28 AM
I suprised the TTFF interview Stern in the first place
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: DeSoWa on April 12, 2007, 12:32:20 PM
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I suprised the TTFF interview Stern in the first place

But you notice there is no mention of him playing for TnT inthe GC or the future, no mention at all about local football... hmmmm ::)

Big Up!
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: weary1969 on April 12, 2007, 09:08:12 PM
Interview with the organization that eh goin and pick u in a couplemonths intresting very interesting
Title: Re: Q&A with Stern John from TTFF
Post by: Babalawo on April 12, 2007, 11:45:00 PM
they thief dat interview from some place or its fake.  Stern vex with dem :rotfl:
Title: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Flex on August 01, 2007, 07:47:14 AM
Stern John: Goals will flow.
By: James Hunter (Chronicle).
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Stern John says there is no reason to panic at Sunderlands meagre pre-season goal return. The Black Cats have scored just four times in their four pre-season friendlies to date, missing a hatful of chances in the process.
But Trinidad and Tobago striker John is confident that the Sunderland hitmen will get it right.
He said: Obviously, its disappointing that the scorelines have not reflected the way we have dominated the games, but I really believe we shouldnt make too much of that.
For the past few weeks the strikers have been putting in the work to get their sharpness back, and I think it will come.
Its unfortunate we have missed chances in games, but that happens sometimes and theres no need to be worried because the manager and the staff know what theyre doing.
Strikers tend to take longer to be at their sharpest than other players.
With defenders you are always having players coming running at you. Midfielders work on their passing game and their overall fitness, but sometimes it takes strikers a while to find their sharpness in front of goal and that little fraction extra that you need which makes all the difference.
Sunderland finish their Irish tour with a game against Galway United at Terryland Park tonight, having beaten Bohemians 1-0 in Dublin on Saturday and drawing 1-1 with Cork City on Monday.
And before leaving for Ireland, Sunderland beat Darlington 2-0 and lost 1-0 at Scun-thorpe.
Sunderland boss Roy Keane had expressed concerns at his sides lack of goals in pre-season.
He said yesterday: Yes, Im concerned were not scoring as many goals as we should be doing. Very much so.
There would be a bigger worry if we werent creating chances, but the fact is the strikers have missed some very easy chances and their position is one were looking at all the time.
The strikers know they havent scored in two or three games, but it wont scare them.
We had plenty of chances against Cork, but hopefully if we get those chances against Galway well take them because in the Premiership, if you miss your chances, it comes back to haunt you. The fact that we havent taken our chances means weve got to address that.
Meanwhile, manager Roy Keane hopes to complete the signings of Cork City striker Roy O'Donovan and another unnamed player this week. Keane has been frustrated in his attempts to sign several players since leading the Black Cats to promotion but believes he is about to beat Fulham to O'Donovan's signature - the London side have offered 300,000 pounds rising to 500,000.
The former Manchester United star has been unable to persuade Wigan defender Leighton Baines and Hearts' Scotland goalkeeper Craig Gordon to move to the Stadium of Light.
He also lost patience with England striker Nugent and told him not to bother signing with them from Preston after he took what Keane thought was too long to decide whether he would or not - Nugent eventually signed up with Portsmouth.
He is thought to have enquired about United's Alan Smith, but Newcastle are also interested in the England striker.
"We hope to have news on Roy and one other player in the next 24 to 48 hours," Keane told Sunderland's website.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: elan on August 01, 2007, 09:16:53 AM
Quote
Stern John: Goals will flow.
By: James Hunter (Chronicle).
 
Stern John says there is no reason to panic at Sunderlands meagre pre-season goal return. The Black Cats have scored just four times in their four pre-season friendlies to date, missing a hatful of chances in the process.
But Trinidad and Tobago striker John is confident that the Sunderland hitmen will get it right.
He said: Obviously, its disappointing that the scorelines have not reflected the way we have dominated the games, but I really believe we shouldnt make too much of that.
For the past few weeks the strikers have been putting in the work to get their sharpness back, and I think it will come.
Its unfortunate we have missed chances in games, but that happens sometimes and theres no need to be worried because the manager and the staff know what theyre doing.
Strikers tend to take longer to be at their sharpest than other players.
With defenders you are always having players coming running at you. Midfielders work on their passing game and their overall fitness, but sometimes it takes strikers a while to find their sharpness in front of goal and that little fraction extra that you need which makes all the difference.
Sunderland finish their Irish tour with a game against Galway United at Terryland Park tonight, having beaten Bohemians 1-0 in Dublin on Saturday and drawing 1-1 with Cork City on Monday.
And before leaving for Ireland, Sunderland beat Darlington 2-0 and lost 1-0 at Scun-thorpe.
Sunderland boss Roy Keane had expressed concerns at his sides lack of goals in pre-season.
He said yesterday: Yes, Im concerned were not scoring as many goals as we should be doing. Very much so.
There would be a bigger worry if we werent creating chances, but the fact is the strikers have missed some very easy chances and their position is one were looking at all the time.
The strikers know they havent scored in two or three games, but it wont scare them.
We had plenty of chances against Cork, but hopefully if we get those chances against Galway well take them because in the Premiership, if you miss your chances, it comes back to haunt you. The fact that we havent taken our chances means weve got to address that.Meanwhile, manager Roy Keane hopes to complete the signings of Cork City striker Roy O'Donovan and another unnamed player this week. Keane has been frustrated in his attempts to sign several players since leading the Black Cats to promotion but believes he is about to beat Fulham to O'Donovan's signature - the London side have offered 300,000 pounds rising to 500,000.
The former Manchester United star has been unable to persuade Wigan defender Leighton Baines and Hearts' Scotland goalkeeper Craig Gordon to move to the Stadium of Light.
He also lost patience with England striker Nugent and told him not to bother signing with them from Preston after he took what Keane thought was too long to decide whether he would or not - Nugent eventually signed up with Portsmouth.
He is thought to have enquired about United's Alan Smith, but Newcastle are also interested in the England striker.
"We hope to have news on Roy and one other player in the next 24 to 48 hours," Keane told Sunderland's website.


Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: FireBrand on August 01, 2007, 09:21:58 AM
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Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.

No doubt!
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: RGarcia on August 01, 2007, 09:42:59 AM
Any Trini that play for Mercer County College does handle deyself!! :devil: :devil :beermug: :beermug:
Mash dem up Stern!
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 10:02:08 AM



Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business?  No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: supporter on August 01, 2007, 10:10:24 AM
Any Trini that play for Mercer County College does handle deyself!! :devil: :devil :beermug: :beermug:
Mash dem up Stern!

hahahaha
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: takenoprisoners on August 01, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
http://www.attachmax.com/John_vs_Bohemians.html

Like two days ago! :devil:
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: elan on August 01, 2007, 10:19:05 AM
Gosh Bakes, we trying to instill some confidence. Maybe if he makea spin home, Pablo's, zen,  something like that he will be on point for the season.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 01, 2007, 10:30:17 AM



Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business?  No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.

hush yuh duking mouth nah...

When d last time allyuh Saviour Kenwyn do anything for trinidad?  ohhhhh a goal against peru in a friendly ohhhhhhh

If it wasnt for those 5 goals Stern score in the hex...  Germany would have been a far away dream...

Legend 14   The man that really got us to the cup

 
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: fatimarima on August 01, 2007, 10:43:18 AM
lol, wey bakes, wha kinda talk is dat?  Ah feel you and stern go have to fight.  :devil:
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Quags on August 01, 2007, 10:45:16 AM



Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.
If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 10:45:38 AM



Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.

hush yuh duking mouth nah...

When d last time allyuh Saviour Kenwyn do anything for trinidad? ohhhhh a goal against peru in a friendly ohhhhhhh

If it wasnt for those 5 goals Stern score in the hex... Germany would have been a far away dream...

Legend 14 The man that really got us to the cup

 

Shut yuh muthaf**king mouth when yuh see big people talking. Go learn tuh properly wipe yuh ass or sumting... li'l dunce ass yute
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 10:48:26 AM
lol, wey bakes, wha kinda talk is dat? Ah feel you and stern go have to fight. :devil:
I want Stern tuh fight wid de back ah de net...dai'z all he need tuh worry about.  I tired support dis man over de years wid he inconsistent attitude towards the game and never say nutten about him...but any objective person has to get fed up with de shit he playing of late.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 01, 2007, 10:58:38 AM



Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business?  No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.

hush yuh duking mouth nah...

When d last time allyuh Saviour Kenwyn do anything for trinidad?  ohhhhh a goal against peru in a friendly ohhhhhhh

If it wasnt for those 5 goals Stern score in the hex...  Germany would have been a far away dream...

Legend 14   The man that really got us to the cup

 

Shut yuh muthaf**king mouth when yuh see big people talking.  Go learn tuh properly wipe yuh ass or sumting... li'l dunce ass yute.

haha de pompeck chatting with d pitbull??

Yeh make yuh threats over d net...   I cut down on the cursing but i dont need to reply to you cuz its obvious you dont know anything about trinidad football cuz if you did even if you didnt like Stern you would have respected him for getting us to the cup.... but yeh i'm the dunce one lol

See yuh later bitch

Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 11:05:37 AM

If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
lol...aye, I open up my PM box and see this thing and I siddung dey like

"what???...what de ass I tell dis man about he chirren boy?"

I still dunno what get pardna so vex.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: dcs on August 01, 2007, 11:08:04 AM

http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: dcs on August 01, 2007, 11:09:04 AM

If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions  :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
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lol...aye, I open up my PM box and see this thing and I siddung dey like

"what???...what de ass I tell dis man about he chirren boy?"

I still dunno what get pardna so vex.

I think is in the part where u re-write his post ....,me eh know how dat is he chirren but say what   :rotfl:
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 11:12:05 AM


haha de pompeck chatting with d pitbull??

Yeh make yuh threats over d net... I cut down on the cursing but i dont need to reply to you cuz its obvious you dont know anything about trinidad football cuz if you did even if you didnt like Stern you would have respected him for getting us to the cup.... but yeh i'm the dunce one lol

See yuh later bitch



What 'threat' yuh see me make li'l gyal? 

Look gyal go learn tuh properly break first... and ah doh just mean in yuh own pants, before yuh come say you holding any kinda talk with me yes.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 11:14:19 AM

If Berris latch orn tah that ,it could be ah clash of epic perportions :rotfl: Ah see bakes insult ah man so bad , the man want him to apologise to he children too oui .
Quote
lol...aye, I open up my PM box and see this thing and I siddung dey like

"what???...what de ass I tell dis man about he chirren boy?"

I still dunno what get pardna so vex.

I think is in the part where u re-write his post ....,me eh know how dat is he chirren but say what :rotfl:

Aye...hear nah, de man had mih feeling bad dred.  Yuh could tell he was hurt eh...and I wouldn't blame him.  I had tuh go back and read and re-read de damn thing tuh make sure I really ent say nutten 'bout mankind seed.

De wors' part is dat he heself referring tuh he own chirren as 'mongrels'...go figure.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 01, 2007, 11:15:03 AM


haha de pompeck chatting with d pitbull??

Yeh make yuh threats over d net...   I cut down on the cursing but i dont need to reply to you cuz its obvious you dont know anything about trinidad football cuz if you did even if you didnt like Stern you would have respected him for getting us to the cup.... but yeh i'm the dunce one lol

See yuh later bitch



What 'threat' yuh see me make li'l gyal? 

Look gyal go learn tuh properly break first... and ah doh just mean in yuh own pants, before yuh come say you holding any kinda talk with me yes.

Well i made you.. so i guess my breaking techniques are fine... Oh shit...yuh mom didnt tell u who yuh real fada is?

Biggest mistake i ever made.. you and your mudda
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 01, 2007, 11:25:43 AM

http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html

He real throw 'way boy...granted that none of them were truly 'sitters' as some on de SAFC forum claim, but nah...dat was real amateurish finishing dred.


Well i made you.. so i guess my breaking techniques are fine... Oh shit...yuh mom didnt tell u who yuh real fada is?

Biggest mistake i ever made.. you and your mudda

that's nice sonny...now run along.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 01, 2007, 11:29:59 AM
aright fag... we'll talk a next time...  i owe your mom some child suport.. see yuh den sonny
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: fatimarima on August 01, 2007, 03:52:05 PM

http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html

Yeah those misses by stern were not sitters and they certainly were not as bad as people in the sunderland forum were making it sound.  He created two of those chances with defenders on his back. He just needs to work on the "stern-turn" some more.  The finishing was not professional or sharp, he needs to step it up, but that's the purpose of  pre-season training games.  Hopefully he will sharpen up before the start of the season. 
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: arrow on August 01, 2007, 09:00:05 PM
Meanwhile, manager Roy Keane hopes to complete the signings of Cork City striker Roy O'Donovan and another unnamed player this week.

"We hope to have news on Roy and one other player in the next 24 to 48 hours," Keane told Sunderland's website.

Wonder is this other player Spann?
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: fishs on August 02, 2007, 07:33:04 AM



Watch, y'all just need to chill out. Stern will handle he business.
when was the last time Stern "handle" any business? No, I ent talking about jocking neither...even doh he doing plenty ah dat on de field.

Go easy son, this man will come good soon enuff.
It had men in here reall bad talking him early in the hex , we even set up ah internal support committee (dais even before Berris ) men like shotta, morvantman etc.
Then the 14 start ....
So if yuh disrepecting do it with some finesse with yuh pardners in the back.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 02, 2007, 08:48:16 AM


Go easy son, this man will come good soon enuff.
It had men in here reall bad talking him early in the hex , we even set up ah internal support committee (dais even before Berris ) men like shotta, morvantman etc.
Then the 14 start ....
So if yuh disrepecting do it with some finesse with yuh pardners in the back.
I dunno which 'pardners' yuh referring to nah saddis'...but as even my gyul would attest, I've been supporting Stern long enough to earn de right to finally say "enough of the half-assing already". I know some ah allyuh have filial ties wid Stern and what not...and that's cool. But when you're in a position such as Stern, Yorke, Edwards etc...with the adulation comes the criticism, part and parcel with the profession.

When Stern eventually does well, I will be among his loudest supporters...in the mean time when he shitting on heself on de field...especially with so much on de line (a vaunted shot-for him, in the Premiership) I will get on his ass as much as I alone feel is necessary.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Rodney on August 02, 2007, 09:34:10 AM
quote author=fatimarima link=topic=29655.msg338521#msg338521 date=1186005125]

http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html

Yeah those misses by stern were not sitters and they certainly were not as bad as people in the sunderland forum were making it sound. He created two of those chances with defenders on his back. He just needs to work on the "stern-turn" some more. The finishing was not professional or sharp, he needs to step it up, but that's the purpose of pre-season training games. Hopefully he will sharpen up before the start of the season.
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Agreed, Stern getting abuse from the Sunderland fans cause they never wanted him in the first place. If yuh watch their forums they done right him off already, most doh even consider him part of the team......yet he still there! So is no surprise they over-emphasizing his misses, most players that are poorly rated by Fans suffer similar fates. They ignore or dismiss what he does well and concentrate on what he does poorly just so they can say...."told ya, what ah waste of space". Good luck Stern! yuh got a tough crowd there.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Midknight on August 02, 2007, 11:15:36 AM

http://www.attachmax.com/Cork_City_vs_Sunderland_Full_Match_Highlights.html

Yeah those misses by stern were not sitters and they certainly were not as bad as people in the sunderland forum were making it sound. He created two of those chances with defenders on his back. He just needs to work on the "stern-turn" some more. The finishing was not professional or sharp, he needs to step it up, but that's the purpose of pre-season training games. Hopefully he will sharpen up before the start of the season.
Agreed, Stern getting abuse from the Sunderland fans cause they never wanted him in the first place. If yuh watch their forums they done right him off already, most doh even consider him part of the team......yet he still there! So is no surprise they over-emphasizing his misses, most players that are poorly rated by Fans suffer similar fates. They ignore or dismiss what he does well and concentrate on what he does poorly just so they can say...."told ya, what ah waste of space". Good luck Stern! yuh got a tough crowd there.

If again
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: andre samuel on August 02, 2007, 11:23:59 AM
I saw the highlights and i agree with you guys, those were not sitters.  He still should have done better with those chances since he aspires to be a premiership level striker, but i still believe that he isnt too far off his game.

ah love it!!

nb: he shoulda score de tap in though!!
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: fishs on August 02, 2007, 10:36:00 PM


Go easy son, this man will come good soon enuff.
It had men in here reall bad talking him early in the hex , we even set up ah internal support committee (dais even before Berris ) men like shotta, morvantman etc.
Then the 14 start ....
So if yuh disrepecting do it with some finesse with yuh pardners in the back.
I dunno which 'pardners' yuh referring to nah saddis'...but as even my gyul would attest, I've been supporting Stern long enough to earn de right to finally say "enough of the half-assing already". I know some ah allyuh have filial ties wid Stern and what not...and that's cool. But when you're in a position such as Stern, Yorke, Edwards etc...with the adulation comes the criticism, part and parcel with the profession.

When Stern eventually does well, I will be among his loudest supporters...in the mean time when he shitting on heself on de field...especially with so much on de line (a vaunted shot-for him, in the Premiership) I will get on his ass as much as I alone feel is necessary.

Sorry I'm not around respond immediately to your explanation of why you describe Stern's recent performances in such a vitriolic way, anyhow all players in sport regardless of the level go through flat periods but what makes them good is how they respond to it. Stern has a history of switching off and on and it is normally associated with his weight and fitness, at this time he is only at about 90% of where he wants to be and the training he is doing will see him back to 100% in a week or 2.
So hold some strain and lets see if he really is not premiership material.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: Bakes on August 03, 2007, 10:03:03 AM

Sorry I'm not around respond immediately to your explanation of why you describe Stern's recent performances in such a vitriolic way,

My friend, choose yuh words better.  'Vitriol' would be me saying "Stern John is ah shithung"...and other comments in keeping with the tone over on the SAFC board.  I said the man jacking off on himself on the field.  Can you honestly look at his recent performance and say that his finish near the box has been anything even approximating 'professional'?

anyhow all players in sport regardless of the level go through flat periods but what makes them good is how they respond to it. Stern has a history of switching off and on

..and you somehow find this acceptable??

This "switching off and on" is an Intercol mentality, not one that is becoming of a professional athlete.  You can't play with diligence when you feel and then dog it when you don't...that wouldn't fly in any ole office job, why should it be okay for a professional athlete on the cusp of performing on one of the highest stages in his sport?  Does Yorke or Latas or even Henry 'switch it on and off'?  How long should fans like myself keep making excuses for his inconsistency?

and it is normally associated with his weight and fitness, at this time he is only at about 90% of where he wants to be and the training he is doing will see him back to 100% in a week or 2.
So hold some strain and lets see if he really is not premiership material.

Well I never said that he isn't Prem material...and like I said I want fuh de man to do well, if for nothing else to silence his critics and justify the faith shown in him by Keane, and especially by Yorke...on whose recommendation he was given the opportunity.
Title: Re: Stern John: Goals will flow.
Post by: takenoprisoners on August 04, 2007, 09:15:47 AM
http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=6941&season=2006-2007

Look like the SAFC website take Stern and his four goals off the stat sheet for 2006-2007? ???
Hmmmm
Title: CAN WE GET ANY UPDATE ON STERN JOHN PERFORMANCES FROM THE LOWER LEAGUE
Post by: Father Abraham on September 20, 2007, 08:03:24 AM
NO ONE HAS MENTIONED HIS NAME IN A LONG TIME
Title: Re: CAN WE GET ANY UPDATE ON STERN JOHN PERFORMANCES FROM THE LOWER LEAGUE
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 20, 2007, 08:24:11 AM
He came on as a sub in one game. Played OK. Missed a couple chances.

He started the game after that. Played crap. Got subbed at half time.

He was on the bench yesterday. Didn't play.

That's it, so far

Some Southampton fans already start crying him down: http://www.thesaintsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=25144

I tried to defend him in that thread. But maybe... as sad as it would be to admit... Stern John just ain't Stern John no more. Who knows what going on with Stern.
Title: Re: CAN WE GET ANY UPDATE ON STERN JOHN PERFORMANCES FROM THE LOWER LEAGUE
Post by: Peong on September 20, 2007, 08:52:41 AM
Monkey like yuh really doh know Stern John.
This is part of the strategy.
After a couple of months of frustrating the shit out of the coach, teammates and fans, he will pop up and score goal after goal all the way up to the end of season.

That is how he like it.
Title: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Tallman on November 25, 2007, 07:45:50 AM
Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Southern Daily Echo


JASON Euell missed a second-half penalty but Stern John's strike before the interval was enough to clinch A 1-0 victory for Saints against Blackpool at St Mary's.

George Burley's side, desperate to get back to winning ways after a 5-0 thumping at Sheffield Wednesday last time out, at least managed to put that nightmare display firmly behind them.

The early stages of the Coca-Cola Championship game were disrupted by a series of free-kicks but it was the home side who settled more quickly with Bradley Wright-Phillips having a fifth-minute shot on goal blocked by Shaun Barker.

But Blackpool hit back to create an opening of their own just two minutes later only for Kaspars Gorkss to fire wide from 18 yards.

As both sides stepped up the pace Southampton's Nathan Dyer had his right-footed effort blocked by Gorkss.

George Burley's side continued to press but despite plenty of possession they were unable to carve out any clear-cut chances in the opening 10 minutes.

 The visitors suffered a blow after just 15 minutes when they were forced into a change with the injured Tony McMahon replaced by Stephen Crainey.

As Southampton continued to push, Wright-Phillips had another shot from distance blocked midway through the first half.

But it was Blackpool who almost snatched the lead on the half-hour when Andy Morrell's effort rebounded off the post.

It was a let-off for the home side who up until that staged had looked the more likely to break the deadlock.

Just five minutes later, however, they did just that with John converting from close range after being put in by Wright-Phillips.

But John then missed a chance to double the advantage as he headed over from six yards.

But John was unlucky not to double both his and his team's tally six minutes after the restart as his 20-yard shot cannoned off the crossbar.

Southampton then spurned a gilt-edged opportunity to make it two when they were awarded a penalty after 52 minutes following a foul on Euell by Shaun Barker.

The former Charlton and Middlesbrough striker stepped up to take the spot-kick himself and although he struck it well, Blackpool goalkeeper Paul Rachubka saved superbly.

Blackpool then carved out a rare opportunity shortly afterwards but Southampton goalkeeper Kelvin Davis was equal to Gary Taylor-Fletcher's shot.

Both sides then made changes with Wesley Hoolahan replacing Andrew Welsh before the unfortunate Euell made way for Jhon Viafara.

The visitors subsequently opted for another tactical switch in an effort to get back on terms with Claus Jorgensen replaced by David Fox after 69 minutes.

Fox tried his luck from 25 yards with 13 minutes remaining but was well wide and in the dying moments Blackpool saw a chance to level go begging when Taylor-Fletcher headed over from close range.
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: dreamer on November 25, 2007, 08:21:04 AM
Good job eh turn-inho

..but ah never see ah man who could hit post and crossbar so.  Like iz be 2 times or so per game.  Whaiz dah one boy? Ah jess cyah undastan it .....  :o
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: JDB on November 25, 2007, 09:34:39 AM
Very glad to see that Stern continuing to rip up.

According to Wikipedia this is his best strike rate at an English club so far, 5 in 9 games.

Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: berris on November 25, 2007, 12:21:07 PM
 :applause: :applause: ....He eh name 'Bound tuh score' fuh nuttin..De only way #14 will stop scoring goals is when he retire but once he on dah pitch regularly ,with any team, in any league... he 'Bound tuh score' on ah regular basis ..
With de kinda ah shit Sunderland playing and if they continue to play so, I cud see Stern and Southampton taking dey spot in the Prems next year.Stern definately showing his worth and once he continue to score at this rate Southampton have ah chance to get promoted.....
Well Done #14  ...dey cyar stop yuh  :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: TrinInfinite on November 25, 2007, 12:42:00 PM
SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 25, 2007, 01:07:52 PM
SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....

God is de BOSS....

hoss yuh sounding dumb as f**k like triniscout... Dwight has retired
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Anbrat on November 25, 2007, 01:36:19 PM
SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....

God is de BOSS....

hoss yuh sounding dumb as f**k like triniscout... Dwight has retired

 Ditto. ditto.
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 25, 2007, 01:37:04 PM
Stern goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxd0tkBP2YU
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2007, 02:29:21 PM
SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....

God is de BOSS....

hoss yuh sounding dumb as f**k like triniscout... Dwight has retired

He was also 'retired' before the Germany campaign.  You might want to hold off on the authoritative pronouncements and see what develops before you start cussing and calling people 'dumb'.
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: WestCoast on November 25, 2007, 02:36:45 PM
all of allya KNOW that Dwight has retired before and he did come back............there is always hope
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: TrinInfinite on November 25, 2007, 04:27:41 PM
all of allya KNOW that Dwight has retired before and he did come back............there is always hope

de man playing epl ball and starting, what make allyuh feel he wont be fit in 2 years still? we need a holding mid like yorkie, who else other than leon and whitley could handle the link, maybe bleeder but i rather see him in an offensive role... birchall cant distribute and hold a mid like yorke...

God is de BOSS...
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Daft Trini on November 25, 2007, 09:23:50 PM
keep up the good work Stern..... ;D
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: SUPA on November 25, 2007, 10:07:07 PM
:applause: :applause: ....He eh name 'Bound tuh score' fuh nuttin..De only way #14 will stop scoring goals is when he retire but once he on dah pitch regularly ,with any team, in any league... he 'Bound tuh score' on ah regular basis ..
With de kinda ah shit Sunderland playing and if they continue to play so, I cud see Stern and Southampton taking dey spot in the Prems next year.Stern definately showing his worth and once he continue to score at this rate Southampton have ah chance to get promoted.....
Well Done #14 ...dey cyar stop yuh :applause: :applause:

Eh homie, dat go be something fuh de books eh, Stern helped Birmingham and Sunderland tuh get promoted tuh de EPL and den he helped Southampton, hopefully dey see his worth and keep him at Southampton when dey get promoted tuh de EPL. My gawd, dat will be ah story on bound tuh score. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: triniairman on November 25, 2007, 11:37:29 PM
all of allya KNOW that Dwight has retired before and he did come back............there is always hope

de man playing epl ball and starting, what make allyuh feel he wont be fit in 2 years still? we need a holding mid like yorkie, who else other than leon and whitley could handle the link, maybe bleeder but i rather see him in an offensive role... birchall cant distribute and hold a mid like yorke...

God is de BOSS...
To be honest I rather see Birch in the mid shooting and scoring than to see Yorke playing a role that his legs ain't fit for, just my opinion and I know alot will disagree.
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Peong on November 26, 2007, 09:06:30 AM
Look how Stern John come back deadly as ever.
Stern go top score in CONCACAF qualifyin again.
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: trinikev on November 26, 2007, 09:14:26 AM
SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....

God is de BOSS....

I more worried about who gonna handle the defence!! the way our defence shaping up right now, we cud have ronaldinho in the middle but we go stilll be in trouble. who in the back???
Title: Re: Stern John's strike does the trick for Saints
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 26, 2007, 09:27:41 AM
SJ set tuh make his return to natl team with KJ and yorkie, edwards, hardest and samuel in the middle... 2010 SA here we come....

God is de BOSS....

I more worried about who gonna handle the defence!! the way our defence shaping up right now, we cud have ronaldinho in the middle but we go stilll be in trouble. who in the back???
Exactly. Men talkin bout Lawrence and Dog still.
Title: Stern stays strong
Post by: Tallman on April 26, 2008, 07:29:33 AM
Stern shrugs off pressure
saintsfc.co.uk


Stern John insists he is not feeling the pressure of firing Saints to safety.
Survival hopes are pinned on the finishing power of the Trinidad and Tobago international.

His nose for goal has established him as the club's leading marksman with 17 since his free transfer from Sunderland at the start of the season.
Saints desperately need him to continue finding the net in their final two fixtures at West Brom on Monday and at home to Sheffield United on Sunday May 4 - tickets on general sale, book online.

And the in-form frontman is relishing the responsibility and says he is ready to meet that challenge.
He said: "I have not been at this end of the Championship for a long time and it is a very different kind of pressure from chasing promotion.

"I have played under pressure all my career so it does not bother me. I just need to compose myself, relax and everything will fall into place.
"Every time I step onto the pitch I feel like I will score. I will always get a chance at some stage in the game, it is a question of waiting for it and making it count.

"I love scoring goals so I don't feel under any real pressure. I will play my normal game and try my best to score.
"There is no extra responsibility for me. It is not just about me, it is about the team and it does not matter who scores as long as we get the three points.

"We have plenty of match-winners in our side and as long as we win the match, I will be happy because there is so much at stake.
"Last week's game against Burnley was frustrating for me but that has been the story of our season. We have played better against the top sides and then not beaten the sides near the bottom.

"But that is the way the Championship is, it is so inconsistent. And hopefully we can now go to West Brom and win.
"We beat them at St Mary's and I got a couple of goals so we have to try and repeat that although it will be tough.

"They are one of the best footballing teams in the Championship and they play the game the right way.
"They deserve to be top and to win promotion but hopefully we can spoil the party for them."

The relegation race is also going right to the wire and today's results will go a long way towards determining Southampton's fate.
Albion could be promoted while even a point for Sheffield Wednesday at fellow cellar-dwellers Leicester would dump Saints back in the bottom three.

They would then need to get something from the game at the Hawthorns in order to have their fate in their own hands on the final day.
John added: "It is really tight and no-one can really call it at the moment. there are five of us down there and one will go. We have to make sure it is not us.

"It is about keeping our nerve and on Monday we will need 11 players and substitutes to do their job and to play as a team.
"We are in a difficult situation but the manager has done a good job of keeping us positive and upbeat and focused.

"We are capable of going to West Brom and getting a result and that is what we have to do."
Title: Re: Stern stays strong
Post by: SUPA on April 26, 2008, 09:08:55 AM
Stern shrugs off pressure
saintsfc.co.uk


Stern John insists he is not feeling the pressure of firing Saints to safety.
Survival hopes are pinned on the finishing power of the Trinidad and Tobago international.

His nose for goal has established him as the club's leading marksman with 17 since his free transfer from Sunderland at the start of the season.
Saints desperately need him to continue finding the net in their final two fixtures at West Brom on Monday and at home to Sheffield United on Sunday May 4 - tickets on general sale, book online.

And the in-form frontman is relishing the responsibility and says he is ready to meet that challenge.
He said: "I have not been at this end of the Championship for a long time and it is a very different kind of pressure from chasing promotion.

"I have played under pressure all my career so it does not bother me. I just need to compose myself, relax and everything will fall into place.
"Every time I step onto the pitch I feel like I will score. I will always get a chance at some stage in the game, it is a question of waiting for it and making it count.

"I love scoring goals so I don't feel under any real pressure. I will play my normal game and try my best to score.
"There is no extra responsibility for me. It is not just about me, it is about the team and it does not matter who scores as long as we get the three points.

"We have plenty of match-winners in our side and as long as we win the match, I will be happy because there is so much at stake.
"Last week's game against Burnley was frustrating for me but that has been the story of our season. We have played better against the top sides and then not beaten the sides near the bottom.

"But that is the way the Championship is, it is so inconsistent. And hopefully we can now go to West Brom and win.
"We beat them at St Mary's and I got a couple of goals so we have to try and repeat that although it will be tough.

"They are one of the best footballing teams in the Championship and they play the game the right way.
"They deserve to be top and to win promotion but hopefully we can spoil the party for them."

The relegation race is also going right to the wire and today's results will go a long way towards determining Southampton's fate.
Albion could be promoted while even a point for Sheffield Wednesday at fellow cellar-dwellers Leicester would dump Saints back in the bottom three.

They would then need to get something from the game at the Hawthorns in order to have their fate in their own hands on the final day.
John added: "It is really tight and no-one can really call it at the moment. there are five of us down there and one will go. We have to make sure it is not us.

"It is about keeping our nerve and on Monday we will need 11 players and substitutes to do their job and to play as a team.
"We are in a difficult situation but the manager has done a good job of keeping us positive and upbeat and focused.

"We are capable of going to West Brom and getting a result and that is what we have to do."

Come on Stern and Southamptom, your supporters prays and hearts are with you all. EPL, next season, wow. What a story you will have to tell your kid or kids. Best of luck my brother. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: Father Abraham on May 04, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
Stern had a great year and he has handled his trade to Southampton like a true professional.  He got in great shape and did what he does best in scorng goals.  It seems like everyteam he plays with he leaves a lasting impression and truly helps the clubs out in a massive way.  He is truly a cult hero and now at Southampton he came through one again to save the club from relegation to league one.  He is a legend.  Congrats Stern and keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: WestCoast on May 04, 2008, 12:11:45 PM
STERN is ah bosssssss....BRACEMAN ...
Tallman ya good?

but that first yellow is really CRAP.......tarnishes the beautiful game.
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: PantherX on May 04, 2008, 01:41:09 PM
STERN is ah bosssssss....BRACEMAN ...
Tallman ya good?

but that first yellow is really CRAP.......tarnishes the beautiful game.

Serious case of deja vu there.
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: dreamer on May 04, 2008, 02:35:58 PM
Stern yuh have meh a happy man today. Like de mailman, yuh always deliver when it counts. Heart of steel!
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: Sando prince on May 04, 2008, 02:53:40 PM
De man bound to score..He is ah boss!
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: dinho on May 04, 2008, 02:55:11 PM
whey berris??

come and say ah word nuh man..

leroy have yuh busy or wha?  :devil:
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: JDB on May 04, 2008, 03:02:45 PM
 Stern has a justofoable reputation as a big game scorer.

TIme and again for TnT (score the goals to keep us in the hunt for a WC)

Score the goal to take Birmingham up

Score the goal to keep Southampton up
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: dreamer on May 04, 2008, 03:06:07 PM
Daiz true talk
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2008, 03:08:21 PM
whey berris??

come and say ah word nuh man..

leroy have yuh busy or wha?  :devil:

u like shit eh  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: Zeppo on May 04, 2008, 03:10:33 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44625000/jpg/_44625983_john2_getty416.jpg)
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: weary1969 on May 04, 2008, 03:31:55 PM
D man is a legend
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: Midknight on May 04, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
Score the goal to take Birmingham up

One of them.
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: Deeks on May 05, 2008, 03:36:11 PM
Yeh, he is a cult hero now because he save them from going down.
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: SUPA on May 05, 2008, 03:46:44 PM
Disgruntled, doh be shame nah man, come and tell Stern congratulations to nah  :devil:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: WestCoast on May 05, 2008, 03:59:19 PM
how many names Berris does have?
atb is ah nex one.............right ;D
Title: Re: Stern John is a cult hero
Post by: berris on May 05, 2008, 06:24:38 PM
whey berris??

come and say ah word nuh man..

leroy have yuh busy or wha? :devil:

 :rotfl: :rotfl:

You like shit oui !! ..anyway as far #14 concern Maturana get ah close up of TnT greatest goal scorer ,so now leh meh see what he go do.For all de imps like 'disgruntledChupidy' and dem, who feel we have any chance to go to SA without #14 ,all yuh waste ah feel.




p.s  LEBOY HAUL YUH MUDDAS SC0NT 
Title: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Flex on May 22, 2008, 11:57:57 AM
Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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The unsinkable Stern John talks to Adrenalin reporter Lasana Liburd about Kenwyne Jones, Southampton, the England national team and his burning desire to return to the Premiership.

I would like to score against England because I had a half chance (against them) in the World Cup (and didnt), said Trinidad and Tobago star Stern John. Who knows, I might take off my jersey again.

John chuckled as he recalled the last time he took his shirt off. It was on the closing day of the season for Southampton, last month, and got him halfway to a red card while the Saints tried desperately to hang on to a 3-2 lead over Sheffield United and survival in the England Championship Division.

John scored two of Southampton goals and wanted to share the moment with deceased pal and former national footballer, Mickey Trotman, whose name was emblazoned across a tee shirt under his football gear. But a second booking, which he picked up trying to thwart a counter attack, reduced Southampton to ten men for the last 10 minutes of regulation time.

It was a real dark moment for me, said the 31-year-old John. I was thinking what have I done, you just killed your whole team. I was on my knees in the dressing room watching on television and praying.

I thought Id have to move out of Southampton if we lost. The final whistle was a relief.

If ever anyone needed a happy ending, it was John.

In September 2004, John was preparing for international duty against Mexico when a news flash indicated that Premiership outfit, Birmingham City, had signed compatriot Dwight Yorke and hoped John would make way for him by accepting a move to Championship Division club, Coventry.

John reluctantly left Birmingham but soon felt even worse in a decidedly average Coventry squad.

When I spoke to the manager (Peter Reid), he said they wanted to get back into the Premiership, he said. But, when I went there, there was nothing in place to do that.

The move led to two and a half years at the middle to lower table club before Sunderland manager Roy Keane asked John to help the North-East team into the top flight. The former El Dorado Comprehensive student did his part with four goals in the last three months of their campaign.

But, once Sunderlands Premiership status was confirmed, Keanes interest in John waned. And John feared the worse when rumours linked his employers with another Trinidad and Tobago striker, Kenwyne Jones.

Ironically, the two compatriots spoke regularly and John had urged Jones, a Southampton player at the time, to jump at any chance he got to play in the Premiership.

John was used just once for Sunderland in the 2007/08 Premiership season and had a goal to show for it in a draw at Birmingham of all places. But Southampton refused to release Jones without receiving a striker as part of the deal and they wanted John.

I was disappointed to leave Sunderland, said John, because I felt I didnt get the opportunity I deserved after I played a major part in them getting promoted. I was the number one scorer in the-preseason too.

But I felt I wasnt getting enough playing time. Southampton wanted me and I wasnt going to stay (at Sunderland) and cramp Kenwynes style.

Premature epitaphs were written about the number 14 in Trinidad and Tobago.

Could John recover mentally from the slight? Having failed to stave off a fresh-faced compatriot at Sunderland, would he also lose his national place to the younger strike brigade of Jason Scotland, Darryl Roberts and Scott Sealy?

Nine months later and Johns status as goal king remains undimmed. Present national coach Francisco Maturana has been merciless in his culling of Trinidad and Tobagos 2006 World Cup players and, at 31, Johns position would surely have been considered.

Maturana was at Southampton for their emotional fixture against Sheffield United when John, Trinidad and Tobagos record scorer with 67 goals from 101 appearances, showed that his hunger for goals and ability to rise to the occasion remains virtually unrivalled.

He ranked his two goal salvo against Sheffield among his top ten career games, which includes a memorable double for the Soca Warriors in a 2-1 win over Mexico in 2005 that clinched their 2006 World Cup Play Off berth at the death.

I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.

I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...

At the end of the season, nobody wants to know how many people (a striker) dribbled. They want to know how many goals you scored.

His 67 international goals is the eight highest by any player and places him just one goal shy of German legend Gerd Muller and ten short of Brazilian superstar, Pele.

Yet, there is something about the single mindedness of Johns game that some Trinidad and Tobago fans never warmed to although, since his international debut as a teenager in 1995, he led all scorers in six calendar years for his country.

 The best player in Trinidad is always someone in the stands, said John. Most people have their opinion and I accept that it comes with the territory... For me, I am playing for Trinidad and Tobago and I always do my best but, as a human being, it hurts when I hear some of the comments.

I dont think I get the respect I deserve. My stats speak for themselves.

At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.

The plaque and the recurring tributes to Trotmanhe also has his late friends name tattooed on his left legbetrays a sentimental side to the striker who is better known for his sulks, indifferent postures and, above all, goals.

John revealed his softer nature again when he discussed his 12-year-old son, Tyrik John, who lives with him in England. The young John, who is left footed and special according to his dad, plays for a local team in Birmingham and trains with the Premiership clubs youth team on the weekend.

It would cap my career off to play (professionally) with or against him, said John. He worships his dad and he wears number 14 too. I have to go see him play every Sunday or he is very disappointed.

He doesnt miss any of my games so I try not to miss any of his.

Before the John and John partnership becomes a reality, the experienced striker hopes to make the most of a union with the 23-year-old Jones.

A tall, mobile target man, Jones debut Premiership season earned him rave reviews and comparisons with top Ivory Coast and Chelsea striker Didier Drogba. He ended with seven items and, from all indications, is Maturanas choice to lead Trinidad and Tobagos forward line for the 2010 World Cup campaign.

John said that he is not annoyed at losing the spotlight and claimed to be a huge fan of the rising star.

(Jones) is big, quick and strong in the air, said John. As long as he can keep his feet on the ground, the sky is the limit I can score a lot of goals playing off Kenwyne.

It might ruffle a few feathers to suggest that Jones needs a babysitter. But some may have forgotten that John managed nine goals in his first Premiership season in 2002/03 including a classy double against West Ham, which had English football experts purring.

The Jo-Jo partnership might well benefit both players.

Jones dismal international tally of three goals from 31 outings is misleading since he was used in defensive positions for 14 matches while, even when an attacker, he was often asked to play deeper or wide of John.

The two started as an orthodox strike pair just once, in a 2-1 triumph over Panama on October 11, 2006, and Jones got the opening goal while John drifted into midfield to create the second for Collin Samuel with a crafty threaded pass.

Those who are uncertain of Johns versatility should know that he played as a midfielder at national under-17 level and even travelled as a defender with the under-20 squad when he could not break into the forward line-up.

John will not concede his place without a fight. He appeared as a witness against the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) during their recent battle in front the Sport Dispute Resolution Panel in London but, despite being blacklisted for over a year, he insisted that he is yet to contemplate international retirement.

I have a job to do and I wont let problems with the TTFF or the coach or whoever stop me, he said. Once I get called (by my country), I am coming.

There was a strong hint that he was less than thrilled with the squad selected by Maturana to face England.

I think we discard players too fast in Trinidad, said John. People dont realise that international football is a different type of football to the Pro League or the Championship or even the Premiership. It is like chess.

This is where you see the real players.

John intends to give another example of his deadly prowess on June 1.

He conceded that the opening World Cup qualifier against Bermuda on June 15 is the more meaningful fixture. But he cannot forget his outing in Nuremberg where he came within inches of his first World Cup goal, only to see England defender John Terry hook the ball off the goal line while another effort was declared offside.

I watched the tape over and over and I was sure I had scored (an equalizer), he said, of his disallowed back-heel that, if given, could have altered the Warriors fate and shook the World Cup. I committed GBH (grevious bodily harm) on (Rio) Ferdinand for my first attempt and I was surprised that the referee did not blow. I thought that one was going in too but for Terry.

John is hoping for another chance. And he usually takes them.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2008, 12:09:58 PM
very nice read.


At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.


allyuh call names and ah go whistle.... :whistling:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: kiffysmooth on May 22, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
Yes Stern...tell dem, yuh have worldwide stats bredrin......Hope yuh doh run out ah gas to play alongside yuh son eight years from now :rotfl:. Big up and keep making TnT proud
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Star Child on May 22, 2008, 12:54:15 PM
Respect to Mr Stern John. He came up BIG for T&T !!!!!!!! #14 is a big number for Jamal Gay to fill !!!!!

Lasana, that was a wonderful piece of journalism. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2008, 01:50:07 PM
Form is temporary class is permanent. :applause:
Keep letting your boots do the tallking on the field number 14...

Boss interview
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: trinbago on May 22, 2008, 02:38:22 PM
Couldn't have said it any better...that's u Stern !

Quote
Form is temporary class is permanent.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: dreamer on May 22, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Real nice comprehensive article. Big up #14. Legend. Punto Final.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2008, 04:06:31 PM
Excellent article Lisana yuh is a bossssssssssss
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: andre samuel on May 22, 2008, 04:45:53 PM
Excellent article Lisana yuh is a bossssssssssss


Yuh ent want tuh give stern no props atall girl........that article was made good by the responses that stern gave too!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2008, 04:51:16 PM
I humbly apologize great article Stern u is a realllllllllllllll bosssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Touches on May 22, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
very nice read.


At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.


allyuh call names and ah go whistle....   :whistling:

Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Touches on May 22, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
Quote
I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.

I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...

I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.

I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.

I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.

TT's #1 striker.

Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: berris on May 22, 2008, 05:27:55 PM
Quote
I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.

I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...

I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.

I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.

I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.

TT's #1 striker.




 :applause: :applause:  Well said Touches ...now ah waiting for yuh tuh start de thread ..
     ''#14 IS AH BOSS IN AH TUGS''  ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Dutty on May 22, 2008, 05:46:36 PM

Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.

Disgruntled livin Trincity??

I go real laugh if his he self
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2008, 06:07:13 PM
Quote
I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.

I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...

I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.

I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.

I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.

TT's #1 striker.




 :applause: :applause:  Well said Touches ...now ah waiting for yuh tuh start de thread ..
     ''#14 IS AH BOSS IN AH TUGS''  ;D :beermug:

i come out with that thread already in de run up to Germany yuh forget or what?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=16690.0
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: berris on May 22, 2008, 06:21:40 PM
Quote
I play better under pressure, he said. My job is to score goals and you have to be a natural. You can practise to improve but you cannot teach someone how to be a goal scorer.

I dont run around like Carlos (Edwards) but I know how to position myself inside the box and run off the ball and pick up good scoring positions...

I was Stern biggest hater. I used to waste down the man. I say he was the worse ting in a tugs...But the last setta games before we reach Germany make meh switch to the other side.

I dont like his style. I dont like his work rate. But he have a gift and he is special. See the quotes above...he know his strengths and his contribution to TT is invaluable.

I fully appreciate the talent he has and we are lucky to have him.

TT's #1 striker.




 :applause: :applause: Well said Touches ...now ah waiting for yuh tuh start de thread ..
''#14 IS AH BOSS IN AH TUGS'' ;D :beermug:

i come out with that thread already in de run up to Germany yuh forget or what?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=16690.0



Ah know buh ah want tuh hear it from Touches  ;D
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Cocorite on May 22, 2008, 06:42:27 PM
Hear nah some days ah does feel rel proud tuh be a TRINI yuh know. Today is one ah dem.

Stern, thank you for not giving up on the too often fickle T&T supporter. . .

Great Job Liburd

Stern: Just keep fit, T&T need yuh still eh. . .
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Sando prince on May 22, 2008, 06:48:02 PM
Stern has always been one of our most loyal warriors..
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 22, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
Legend 14
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/LEGEND.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/tnt2mexico1.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/010269300423300.jpg)
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: grskywalker on May 22, 2008, 07:58:37 PM
Big up trini all time leading goal scorer!!!!!
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Storeboy on May 22, 2008, 10:50:38 PM
Stern John is a class act and a great striker!  Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: boss on May 23, 2008, 04:08:38 AM
Lasana should submit this to World Soccer or Four Four Two...Thoroughly well researched and well written. Things like this are what lesser journalists wouldn't even think about, or take the time to research:

Quote
Jones dismal international tally of three goals from 31 outings is misleading since he was used in defensive positions for 14 matches while, even when an attacker, he was often asked to play deeper or wide of John.

Great story about a class act.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Brownsugar on May 23, 2008, 04:25:58 AM
Not my most favourite player in world....but I must acknowledge this article....

BIG UP STERN!!.... :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Sam on May 23, 2008, 05:05:20 AM
Welcome back Lasana, boss article !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Jah Gol on May 23, 2008, 06:29:37 AM
John revealed his softer nature again when he discussed his 12-year-old son, Tyrik John, who lives with him in England. The young John, who is left footed and special according to his dad, plays for a local team in Birmingham and trains with the Premiership clubs youth team on the weekend.

It would cap my career off to play (professionally) with or against him, said John. He worships his dad and he wears number 14 too. I have to go see him play every Sunday or he is very disappointed.

He doesnt miss any of my games so I try not to miss any of his.
I wonder if the yute really good.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on May 23, 2008, 06:33:38 AM
Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.

I second that....

No doubt history will show Stern to be up there with Latas, Yorke, , Steve David, and all of our greatest ever players of the past.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 23, 2008, 06:43:25 AM
John revealed his softer nature again when he discussed his 12-year-old son, Tyrik John, who lives with him in England. The young John, who is left footed and special according to his dad, plays for a local team in Birmingham and trains with the Premiership clubs youth team on the weekend.

It would cap my career off to play (professionally) with or against him, said John. He worships his dad and he wears number 14 too. I have to go see him play every Sunday or he is very disappointed.

He doesnt miss any of my games so I try not to miss any of his.
I wonder if the yute really good.
If he is and Stern is smart, he will try to get him in Southampton academy. Dem does produce great youth players.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: WestCoast on May 23, 2008, 06:47:25 AM
Big Up Stern!!

Legend 14
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/LEGEND.jpg)
Nice one Small Mag :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: dinho on May 23, 2008, 07:04:37 AM
Lasana should submit this to World Soccer or Four Four Two...Thoroughly well researched and well written. Things like this are what lesser journalists wouldn't even think about, or take the time to research:

Quote
Jones dismal international tally of three goals from 31 outings is misleading since he was used in defensive positions for 14 matches while, even when an attacker, he was often asked to play deeper or wide of John.

Great story about a class act. :beermug:

not too take anything away from an excellent article, but that information you cited there could be sourced simply by gleaning the topics on this website on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 23, 2008, 09:22:46 AM

At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.


very nice read.


At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.


allyuh call names and ah go whistle....   :whistling:

Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.

Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.

I second that....

No doubt history will show Stern to be up there with Latas, Yorke, , Steve David, and all of our greatest ever players of the past.


(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/epic-fail-2.jpg)

All yuh 4king serious with this sh!t?

I surprise Berris eh chime in yet leading the Stern John fan boy club.

steups..........please
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: FATZ on May 23, 2008, 09:25:50 AM
If these were Sterns' words, he has definitely improved from school days. It was nice reading and as the man said, his stats really do speak for him. It will only be left to seen what the future holds for him regarding TT football but the good thing is that he is one of Corneal's cash cows too  ;) :-X
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on May 23, 2008, 10:41:41 AM
So yuh cyah give Stern a little bly for just this ONCE? Come on Disgruntled, show some love nah.  ;)

Yuh go hate Stern chile too?
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Sando prince on May 23, 2008, 12:05:07 PM
Big Up Stern!!

Legend 14
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/LEGEND.jpg)
Nice one Small Mag :applause: :applause:
Dat is a nice pic  :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on May 23, 2008, 03:35:13 PM
big up tuh de killa Stern John...boss article  :beermug:
Title: Re: Stern: My stats speak for themselves.
Post by: berris on May 23, 2008, 09:09:09 PM

At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.


very nice read.


At his Trincity home, a letter from a local fan that gushed with pride at the Warriors performance in Germany was embalmed and hung next to a poster of John in Southamptons colours.


allyuh call names and ah go whistle.... :whistling:

Deep down I always knew Disgruntled was a Stern fan.

Stern John is a class act and a great striker! Lisana is the best sportswriter in Trinidad and Tobago, bar none.

I second that....

No doubt history will show Stern to be up there with Latas, Yorke, , Steve David, and all of our greatest ever players of the past.


(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/epic-fail-2.jpg)

All yuh 4king serious with this sh!t?

I surprise Berris eh chime in yet leading the Stern John fan boy club.

steups..........please


Me eh have tuh 'chime in' .I know yuh worship yuh fadda #14 .He tell meh all yuh make up and yuh tell him yuh so proud tuh have him as yuh fadda.He say tuh tell yuh thanx for de letter yuh write bigging him