Post by: dinho on July 23, 2008, 10:17:07 AM
Blues storm to win in China
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11996_3856894,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11996_3856894,00.html)
Chelsea cruise to 4-0 victory against Guangzhou Pharmaceutical
By Lewis Rutledge Last updated: 23rd July 2008
Chelsea kicked off the Luiz Felipe Scolari era with a 4-0 victory over Guangzhou Pharmaceutical.
Scolari named a strong side for his first match in charge with Jose Bosingwa making his debut at right-back and Portuguese compatriot Deco lining up in a four-man midfield alongside Michael Essien, John Obi Mikel and Frank Lampard.
Salomon Kalou provided the support for Nicolas Anelka up front and it was the Ivory Coast international who broke the deadlock on 20 minutes with a cool finish from Lampard's pass.
Bosingwa was substituted with a slight thigh injury after a brief but impressive performance, but Chelsea continued to dominate.
Essien was denied a second as Guangzhou goalkeeper Li Shuai pulled off a smart stop, while Anelka hit the post.
Petr Cech had to be alert to tip a Xu Liang free-kick onto the woodwork, before Lampard made it 2-0 five minutes into the second half with a delightful chip from 30 yards.
Argentine teenager Franco Di Santo effectively secured the win with a third goal on 78 minutes as he turned home Florent Malouda's cross.
Shaun Wright-Phillips, one of eight substitutes used by Scolari, then completed the rout in the closing minutes with a shot on the turn.
Chelsea continue their Asian tour with a match against Chengdu Blades on Saturday.
Post by: giggsy11 on July 23, 2008, 11:32:35 AM
Post by: SOBRIQUET on July 23, 2008, 01:01:07 PM
Post by: SUPA on July 23, 2008, 03:53:17 PM
Well on ah different note, there are a few players presently dat are special to me, apart from my T&T players. Some of dem are Dinho, Drogba, Messi, Robinho, Van Nistelroy, Eto'o, Ronaldo (Brazilian) Beckham (mainly for his crosses and dead ball situations, a beauty to look at) Anelka, Seedorf, Lampard and Rooney. Ronaldo (Man U) he is not on my special list doh,but give credit where it is due, I will find my azz by de TV when ever he is playing, he is real class when he is on dat field, total entertainment from him each time he touches dat ball. Is just for some reason my heart never really went his way as a player.
However, to meh point now, seeing dat Barcelona is meh team, Dinho left and went to AC Milan, seeing dat ah already have a player there dat is on my special list (Seedorf), ah guess ah cud become an official AC Milan supporter from de next season. Ah sorry, but any way Dinho and Drogba playing, ah jumping on dat ship. Ah taking in front nah, so when all yuh see meh start tuh rant and rave fuh Milan, yuh wud no why. Wid meh reasons ah take time tuh give all yuh, ah guess I'm not a full wagonist fuh Milan. I think I'm probably a quarter of a wagonist ;D. Lets go Barcelona, Chelsea and Milan ;). HIGHLY BLESSED.
Wade and Beasley - De real deal
Post by: GunnerStunner on July 23, 2008, 10:01:15 PM
but well done n welcome, now i doh have tuh look for you tuh pong yuh shit side
Post by: elan on July 26, 2008, 03:10:47 PM
Soccer.com
After linking up with Chelsea for the first time since Luiz Felipe Scolari's appointment, Michael Ballack hit back at Sir Alex Ferguson's comments downplaying the Blues' title credentials.
The Manchester United boss attempted to kickstart an early war of words with Scolari this week after suggesting Chelsea's ageing squad may not be as much of a threat to the two-time Premier League champions this season.
And with 31-year-old Ballack falling under Ferguson's scope of criticism, the Germany captain quickly pointed towards the example set by the now departed Claude Makelele last season.
'Our team can still improve,' said Ballack. 'If you are 30 or 31 you are not old. Last year Maka was 34 and he played very well. I have nothing to prove, this type of thing happens over the summer, people talking about each other.'
Ballack was given an extended break following Euro 2008 and joined up with Scolari's Chelsea for the first time in Macau ahead of today's friendly with Chinese Super League outfit Chengdu Blades.
Scolari has confirmed Ballack will not take part in the game, or Tuesday's meeting with a Malaysian Select XI in Kuala Lumpur, but he is expected to feature in the Railway Cup in Moscow at the start of August.
Ballack's appearance at the Macau Stsadium also allowed the former Bayern Munich midfielder to comment on Frank Lampard's ongoing transfer saga, with a move to Inter Milan still rumoured to be a possibility.
'It would be fantastic if we could stay at Chelsea,' said Ballack. 'He is a big player for the club and has done a lot for the club, but it is up to him. He knows we are all behind him.'
Following the departure of Makelele to Paris St Germain, Ballack returns to a new-look Chelsea, with the summer signing of Portugal international Deco adding a welcome new dimension to the Blues midfield.
'Maka has left and Deco has come in. We have a good squad and we need a good squad,' said Ballack. 'We want to win a lot of trophies so we need a big squad. Deco is a fantastic player, he gives us more quality and that is what we need. You don't have to sign a lot of players, just quality.
'At the end of last season we were in good shape, if the season was two weeks longer maybe we could have won the league. Manchester United are always competitive and have had two fantastic seasons and won the double last year, but we were very close so this year will be aim to be first.'
Ballack is now looking forward to working closely with former Brazil and Portugal coach Scolari at Chelsea after meeting the Brazilian for the first time in 2002.
'It is different, you know someone for a few moments but now we are together everyday and I am looking forward to it. We have only talked for a few minutes since he took over, but he is a nice person. He is a successful coach and that is why he is here,' added Ballack.
'He has not spoken to me about his philosophy, but we have a good squad like last year and we can play a lot of systems.'
Post by: D.H.W on July 26, 2008, 07:53:15 PM
Post by: PantherX on July 27, 2008, 03:06:27 AM
Oh Gawd, not another Arsenal forever like fungus thread! LOL!
Word.
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 27, 2008, 07:06:17 AM
Oh Gawd, not another Arsenal forever like fungus thread! LOL!
Well, it's little wonder that fungi would flourish as well as it does (especially on this forum) when one considers how much manUre is around to feed it.
Don't you agree? You should.
Post by: elan on July 27, 2008, 11:01:12 AM
Soccer.net
Luiz Felipe Scolari has challenged his fringe players to fight for their place in the Chelsea team to face Portsmouth in the Premier League opener next month.
The former Portugal coach only took over the Chelsea reins at the start of July, but has revealed he knows the majority of the squad who will line up at Stamford Bridge on August 17 after identifying a key group of players who will lead the title challenge.
And with three games of the Blues' tour of Asia and Russia remaining, including Tuesday's meeting with a Malaysian League Select XI in Kuala Lumpur, Scolari is looking for players to step up and earn their place in the side.
'I have some ideas but I need to train more with the team over the next three games,' Scolari said. 'I have in my mind one idea for the team to play against Portsmouth, but until then I want to see how the players train. I have a minimum of 75% of the team in my mind but I need to know the other 25%.
'I know who my key players are. I have had 15 days with them and I know who is important for us to play more games than other players.
'You need to build a team around a few players in essential positions for important games and I now know who they.'
Shaun Wright-Phillips could be seen as a player who is expected to be fighting for a place in the side next season should the England midfielder remain at Stamford Bridge.
The former Manchester City man made over 30 appearances for Chelsea last season but struggled to hold down a place in the side and has been linked with a summer move to Portsmouth, rumours Scolari insisted on Saturday where new to him.
'I have spoken to Shaun today at training and he is happy at Chelsea,' Scolari added. 'If he wants to leave the decision is not only for me but also for the board. Shaun has done a good job up to now, the other players love him and so do my team.'
Meanwhile, Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon has insisted there are no further developments over their pursuit of Real Madrid striker Robinho.
Since arriving in Asia, Kenyon has openly admitted discussions with the Spanish champions over a deal for the Brazilian are ongoing.
Robinho's agent, Wagner Ribeiro, has claimed the Blues are winning the race for his signature, and admitted the player is keen to link up with fellow Brazilian Scolari.
A report on Sunday suggested Chelsea had agreed personal terms with Robinho, and that a British record transfer had been tabled by the Blues, but Real Madrid coach Bernd Schuster remains adamant the 24-year-old will remain at the club next season.
'It has been easier for Mr Scolari to speak to Shaun (Wright-Philips) as he is on the trip than it has been for me to speak to Madrid due to the time difference so there is no update,' Kenyon said.
'We will have further discussions but this is one that could rumble on.'
Post by: giggsy11 on July 27, 2008, 11:52:58 AM
Oh Gawd, not another Arsenal forever like fungus thread! LOL!
Well, it's little wonder that fungi would flourish as well as it does (especially on this forum) when one considers how much manUre is around to feed it.
Don't you agree? You should.
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I agree, especially since the 'manUre being produced will be mostly from Chelski fans. Does that mean they are secret 'manUre' fans, great at producing 'manUre' or both? I think both.
Post by: elan on August 17, 2008, 09:09:32 AM
Scolari starts in style
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Luiz Felipe Scolari got his Chelsea reign up and running with a 4-0 victory over Portsmouth at Stamford Bridge and a message of attacking intent to the rest of the Premier League.
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Nicolas Anelka nods home the second goal
Chelsea were criticised for being cautious under Jose Mourinho but Scolari's first match in charge suggested he wants style as well as substance, and they continued to push forward once Joe Cole opened the scoring in the 12th minute.
Nicolas Anelka, Scolari's only senior forward available, headed in his first goal at home for Chelsea before Frank Lampard put the result beyond doubt just before the break, scoring a penalty just five days after sealing his new five-year contract at the club.
Deco, on his debut, added a fourth from long range just before the end.
While Lampard may have been in the headlines this week it was Scolari - wearing a blue club tracksuit - who took centre stage on the opening weekend of the new season.
The Brazilian had promised a samba style to his time in west London, and he did not disappoint after being introduced to the crowd and giving them a thumbs-up.
Like his Brazil team that won the 2002 World Cup, he relied on his full-backs to create width - instead of Cafu and Roberto Carlos he has Jose Bosingwa and Ashley Cole marauding forward.
It allowed his five-man midfield to dominate through the middle, which is where the opener was created from less than a quarter of an hour into Scolari's career in England.
Anelka cushioned a header back to Michael Ballack, who lifted the ball over Pompey's defence with the outside of his boot for midfielder Cole to steer his finish around David James.
It could have got worse for the visitors as Lampard split their defence again, only this time James saved with his feet when Anelka ran through.
The France striker was not made to wait long for his goal. Bosingwa helped set it up by getting to the byline and standing up a cross to the far post.
Ballack almost got in the way as Deco met the ball but the Portugal midfielder managed to clip over James and Anelka beat Sylvain Distin on the line to head into the empty net.
Anelka should have added a third on the half-hour mark when he raced through again, but his effort went just wide of the post after he tapped the ball around James.
It did not run entirely smoothly for Scolari as he was forced into a change when Ballack picked up a knock, with Florent Malouda coming on.
Pompey also suggested they were willing to fight back when Petr Cech was forced into a double save before the break, first from Niko Kranjcar's powerful drive, then bravely with his body when Peter Crouch latched onto the rebound.
However, their hopes ended when Chelsea were awarded a penalty in first-half stoppage-time after Distin handled a cross by midfielder Cole.
James was booked for kicking the ball away before Lampard tucked away the spot-kick and tapped his badge in celebration as he ran to the crowd.
Pompey boss Harry Redknapp, Lampard's uncle, had offered his advice before Lampard committed his future to Chelsea - and there was an inevitability that the midfielder would find the net against his relative.
The attacking continued after the break, with Anelka twice firing over the crossbar after the restart.
Midfielder Cole went sent through over the top again but fired wide of the post after outpacing the Pompey defence.
Pompey, in contrast, looked short on belief and were contributing to their own downfall, one free-kick in their own territory resulting in possession lost and a chance being presented to Anelka.
Younes Kaboul thought he had sight of goal from a corner but his effort came off his knee, and Crouch could not tame the ball when it fell to him.
Pompey also had a penalty appeal when Niko Kranjcar's drive was blocked by Ricardo Carvalho.
Crouch's partnership with Jermain Defoe clearly needs time to gel. It took them 78 minutes to combine, and Defoe could not get direction on his finish when he met a flick-on.
Deco's goal came in the 89th minute, a powerful and swerving effort from 30 yards that James could only parry into the top corner.
Post by: elan on August 24, 2008, 06:40:59 AM
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun24.8/Wigan_Chelsea2.html
Post by: freakazoid on August 24, 2008, 06:45:43 AM
Post by: elan on August 24, 2008, 07:01:55 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 24, 2008, 07:14:45 AM
Post by: elan on August 24, 2008, 07:57:23 AM
Ballack is a flat track bully!
Yeah, pretty much like Rooney. ;D
Post by: giggsy11 on August 24, 2008, 08:05:33 AM
!Ballack is a flat track bully!
Yeah, pretty much like Rooney. ;D
LOL! Ah see all yuh still playin all yuh 'sh!te on a stick' brand of football Deco or no Deco!
Post by: elan on August 24, 2008, 08:08:41 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 24, 2008, 08:18:06 AM
We just can't help we self. But, at the same time......catch us if you can! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Do worry enjoy all yuh self. Seriously tho all yuh need to get some real wing men and drop dat 4 midfielders all yuh does try tuh cram in game after game. You have to admit when you guys had Duff and Robben there was less sh1te on the stick football. It should be Deco and Essien. Ballack and definitely Lampard on the bench.
Post by: Observer on August 24, 2008, 08:24:23 AM
Post by: SOBRIQUET on August 24, 2008, 10:01:08 AM
We just can't help we self. But, at the same time......catch us if you can! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Do worry enjoy all yuh self. Seriously tho all yuh need to get some real wing men and drop dat 4 midfielders all yuh does try tuh cram in game after game. You have to admit when you guys had Duff and Robben there was less sh1te on the stick football. It should be Deco and Essien. Ballack and definitely Lampard on the bench.
Scary thing for the rest of the league.... Even when the vibrant Chelsea of last week don't show up, this side is still the very best at grinding out a 1-0, with a lock-tight defence.... This title chase could be over by christmas...
Post by: dinho on August 24, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
Wilson Palacios give Ashley cole a drag thru he legs on the line there :o.
Remind me of Yorke in he SSFL heyday.
2 games, 2 wins. The machine rumbles on.
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 24, 2008, 11:00:12 AM
We just can't help we self. But, at the same time......catch us if you can! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Do worry enjoy all yuh self. Seriously tho all yuh need to get some real wing men and drop dat 4 midfielders all yuh does try tuh cram in game after game. You have to admit when you guys had Duff and Robben there was less sh1te on the stick football. It should be Deco and Essien. Ballack and definitely Lampard on the bench.
Scary thing for the rest of the league.... Even when the vibrant Chelsea of last week don't show up, this side is still the very best at grinding out a 1-0, with a lock-tight defence.... This title chase could be over by christmas...
Easy horsie. Nothing ain't happen yet. The Big Four will take points from each other.
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 24, 2008, 11:44:06 AM
Quote
Scary thing for the rest of the league.... Even when the vibrant Chelsea of last week don't show up, this side is still the very best at grinding out a 1-0, with a lock-tight defence.... This title chase could be over by christmas...
In the same manner that you were supposed to win the league by eight points in 2007 (Quote: Michael Essien).
Oh, I wonder where these Chelsea fans were in 1994 when they were getting an average attendance of 12,000 per game...
Two wins against Portsmouth and Wigan and the league is over. Spot the small-time football fan.
When you're grinding out wins against Arsenal, Liverpool and United home and away...then I'll take them seriously.
Post by: freakazoid on August 25, 2008, 12:07:55 PM
Click here
There have been reports of a renewed move for Real Madrid's wantaway forward Robinho and suggestions that a world-record deal to bring Kaka to Stamford Bridge next season will be struck, while Andriy Shevchenko's nightmare stint at the club will almost certainly come to an end this week.
A move for Shaun Wright-Phillips could also be on the cards before the end of the summer transfer window and Scolari has some important decisions to make in what is likely to be a frenzied few days.
One of the club's recent acquisitions, Scolari's former Portugal protege Deco, has already started to make an impact on the Barclays Premier League - scoring his second goal in as many matches against Wigan yesterday.
And with his second victory successfully negotiated - albeit in less handsome fashion than the opening-day rout of Portsmouth - Scolari is ready for the task.
Speaking after yesterday's 1-0 win he said: 'Tomorrow when I am back at the club I will discuss these things.
'It is important (to be focused) before a game. Last week we only talked about Wigan but tomorrow I will talk about players.
'Tomorrow when I come into the club I will discuss this or that, who comes, who goes.
'First we finished the game. Now we get back to London and I start a new week.'
Two men who are sure to remain key figures under Scolari regardless of any further additions to the squad are match-winner Deco and England midfielder Frank Lampard.
But while Scolari was pleased to see his midfield duo's goal tally reach three in two games when the former Barcelona playmaker lashed home a third-minute free-kick, he insists that results are more important than personal milestones.
'If Deco is scoring goals or if Lampard is scoring goals is not important, what is important is if Chelsea win,' he said.
'Chelsea is more important than us. They are friends and if one scores the other players are happy.
'I read that Lampard, in the last two or three seasons, has scored 20 goals every year. This season maybe 25, but maybe 15 or 10. Maybe even five. It is not important if Chelsea win.'
Latics boss Steve Bruce saw his side outgun their illustrious opponents for much of the game but was dismayed at their inability to convert a fine performance into points.
He hailed his side's unflagging industry but bemoaned a lack of finesse from dead-ball situations - a failing emphasised by the winning goal.
'When you play the top teams you have to have people ready and willing to do their jobs and run a million miles,' said Bruce.
'My midfield four ran themselves to a standstill. You have to do that, you have to physically work harder then they do but we just lacked that little bit of quality. The set-piece delivery just wasn't there.
'It was terrible and that is the one disappointment. In pre-season (Daniel) de Ridder, (Jason) Koumas, (Olivier) Kapo have all delivered and our set-pieces are usually good. But here they were appalling and it didn't matter who took them, because they all had a go. You need good dead-ball specialists and we have some good ones but they were a huge disappointment.'
Reflecting on Chelsea's match-winner, the Latics boss joked: 'Who is that lad by the way? Where has he been playing for the last couple of years?
'Seriously though, he oozes class and that is why he is at the very highest level.
'Chelsea had a bad day but there was one bit of brilliance from Deco.'
Post by: elan on August 28, 2008, 09:05:17 AM
By Soccernet staff
Real Madrid forward Robinho should complete his €36m (£28.7m) transfer to Chelsea in time to make his debut in the home derby with Tottenham Hotspur, according to his agent Wagner Ribeiro.
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The Brazilian international could bring his skills to the Premier League.
Ribeiro said on Wednesday night that he expects his client to be a Chelsea player 'by either tomorrow or Friday,' adding in the The Daily Telegraph, 'he should be available to [Luiz Felipe] Scolari for this weekend'.
Robinho, along with Deco, who has already made the switch from Spain to Stamford Bridge, were selected as Scolari's main transfer targets when he became manager of the Blues in the summer.
Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon shares Scolari's desire to lure Robinho to London and believes the Brazilian international can take the club to the 'next level'.
'He's the right age and he comes from Madrid so he understands what a big club is all about,' Kenyon said.
'What we're doing is supporting Scolari. He wants to change and move the style a bit [and] is confident about the player's ability and mentality and that he will fit in and make an impact.'
Chelsea had two bids for the 24-year-old rejected by Madrid earlier in the transfer window but the La Liga club's desire to use Robinho as a make-weight during their pursuit of Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo has unsettled the player and he now wants to quit the Santiago Bernabéu.
He is expected to receive a salary of £70,000 a week at Chelsea, double his income at Madrid.
Robinho is expected to wear the No7 shirt vacated by Andriy Shevchenko, who has rejoined Milan two years after Chelsea signed him for £30m.
Chelsea are so confident of concluding the deal with Real Madrid that fans can already buy Robinho shirts at the club's online megastore
Meanwhile, there seems little prospect of another Brazilian, Kaka, leaving AC Milan to join the Blues, not least because the playmaker is happy at the San Siro.
Chelsea were linked with a world-record £80million bid for Kaka, but he told Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport: 'Me going to Chelsea? I'm staying as a Rossoneri player.
'I should help Milan to win the trophies we're up for this season.'
He added: 'I've always said I'm happy at Milan and as long as my aims remain the same as Milan's I'll stay here. Until now it's always been that way.
'My goal is to win, Milan's is too. As long as we are like that, I'll remain at Milan.'
Post by: SOBRIQUET on August 28, 2008, 10:46:17 AM
massive signing! joe cole on one side, Robinho on the next... ballack, lamps, essien and deco in the middle on top ah them... and didier up top slamming them in.... just by names and talent alone, this is the best side put together in the EPL in quite a few years.... now hopefully they could Gel as a team and DOMINATE the world, like we plan to! COME ON CHELSEA!!!!
Post by: dinho on August 28, 2008, 11:01:39 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
massive signing! joe cole on one side, Robinho on the next... ballack, lamps, essien and deco in the middle on top ah them... and didier up top slamming them in.... just by names and talent alone, this is the best side put together in the EPL in quite a few years.... now hopefully they could Gel as a team and DOMINATE the world, like we plan to! COME ON CHELSEA!!!!
what formation is that you call there a 3-6-1?
joe cole go hadda take ah bench.
i seeing...
Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho Cole
Essien
Deco Lampard Ballack Robinho
Drogba
Post by: SOBRIQUET on August 28, 2008, 12:41:18 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
massive signing! joe cole on one side, Robinho on the next... ballack, lamps, essien and deco in the middle on top ah them... and didier up top slamming them in.... just by names and talent alone, this is the best side put together in the EPL in quite a few years.... now hopefully they could Gel as a team and DOMINATE the world, like we plan to! COME ON CHELSEA!!!!
what formation is that you call there a 3-6-1?
joe cole go hadda take ah bench.
i seeing...
Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho Cole
Essien
Deco Lampard Ballack Robinho
Drogba
i want to see a steady rotation of lamps, ballack and deco....
Post by: WARRIORKING on August 28, 2008, 01:04:42 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 29, 2008, 08:18:17 AM
Post by: elan on August 29, 2008, 08:21:13 AM
Post by: JDB on August 29, 2008, 08:36:15 AM
All yuh might have tuh bactrac on dat.
Yep.
Chelsea moving like amateurs, new money again. Read the piece in bold at the end.
Cole says he is prepared to slog it out with Robinho (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/29/premierleague.chelsea1)
Sachin Nakrani
The Guardian, Friday August 29 2008
Article history
Joe Cole is willing to fight for his place if Robinho moves to Chelsea. Photograph: Richard Heathcote/Getty Images
Chelsea's expected purchase of Robinho has created excitement among the fans, manager and chief executive, but yesterday came a note of defiance from a player who may find his first-team opportunities limited if and when the Brazilian arrives.
Joe Cole has made an impressive start to the season, scoring the first goal of Luiz Felipe Scolari's tenure as Chelsea manager - in the 4-0 victory over Portsmouth - before again featuring in Sunday's win at Wigan. But the way Scolari shaped his side for both matches suggests the England man will be the one who will have to make way.
Cole is not fazed. "I've been at Chelsea for five years now and I've always played, even after we've brought in world-class players," he said. "I've always accepted the challenge and always took it on. This will just be another great challenge. As a footballer you've got to prove yourself every week regardless. You're out there in every game getting judged."
Having arrived from West Ham United for £6.6m in 2003, the 26-year-old has made 225 appearances and was last season voted the supporters' player of the year. And, as he points out, while he has survived, others of similar style have come and gone, including Arjen Robben and Damien Duff. "Robinho is a great player so having him around will be great for the squad," added Cole. "We want to win the title this season, that's the priority."
That ambition should be aided if the Brazilian forward is signed, although the chief executive, Peter Kenyon, was still in Madrid last night and Real's president, Ramón Calderón, stated the player would not leave until a replacement was found Their principal targets, David Villa and Santi Cazorla, signed extended deals with their current clubs, Valencia and Villarreal respectively, yesterday, and Real's sports director, Predrag Mijatovic, last night cast doubt on whether Robinho would be moving to Stamford Bridge. "Robinho still has two years left on his contract," he said. "Therefore he is our player for the next two seasons so you can draw your own conclusions from that."
Chelsea, meanwhile, were left embarrassed yesterday after replica "Robinho" shirts were advertised for sale on the club's official website. The club claim it is customary for kits to be prepared in advance for prospective new signings, to be made available as soon as any deal is completed, although this offer promoted kits sporting the Brazilian's name and the number "to be confirmed".
The advert has since been removed but the former Real defender Rafael Alkorta has criticised the London club. "I find it incredible that a club like Chelsea has not realised that not only is the deal not done but that the president and the coach of Real have said they do not want to sell," he said. "Maybe it was a mistake but it is a pretty astonishing mistake to make."
About this articleClose Football: Joe Cole says he is prepared to slog it out with Robinho over midfield role at Chelsea
This article appeared in the Guardian on Friday August 29 2008 on p4 of the Sport news & features section. It was last updated at 01:38 on August 29 2008.
Post by: dinho on August 29, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 29, 2008, 12:03:55 PM
but allyuh at least have to see the difference here...
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
How does it feel being a European Champion?
Oh.
Post by: NUFF on August 29, 2008, 12:09:09 PM
Post by: Toppa on August 29, 2008, 02:04:16 PM
but allyuh at least have to see the difference here...
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
Allyuh eh prise nobody away eh. Robinho is disgruntled about the whole C Ronaldo thing. Don't give him wrong but still don't want him to leave.
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 31, 2008, 08:58:32 AM
;D
Post by: PantherX on August 31, 2008, 09:07:03 AM
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 31, 2008, 09:22:34 AM
That should bring them down to Earth.
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 31, 2008, 09:54:24 AM
but allyuh at least have to see the difference here...
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
Robinho: "I Want To Leave"
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4073671,00.html
:rotfl:
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 31, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
Yeah but the plastic Chelsea contingent on here would have us believe that they were going to steamroller everyone...
That should bring them down to Earth.
Yep. Wey dem? This thing has a long way to go. Talk to me in December.
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 31, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
One draw and look how quiet they have become.
Armadillo? Where are you? Paging Armadillo! Armadillo to thread...
Respond!
Breaker, breaker...
Post by: dinho on August 31, 2008, 12:39:14 PM
speaking down from all the way at the top of the table can be inaudible without a microphone, maybe if you cup your ears you might hear us better.
focusing on bigger things right now like bringing Robinho home.
Come Luke.. come to the dark side of the force!
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 31, 2008, 01:32:54 PM
we're responding but you can't hear us.
speaking down from all the way at the top of the table can be inaudible without a microphone, maybe if you cup your ears you might hear us better.
focusing on bigger things right now like bringing Robinho home.
Come Luke.. come to the dark side of the force!
Robinho, so big that even we didn't want him when he was offered to us...
:rotfl:
Deluded Chelsea noobs, where were you when you were shit...
Two titles and an FA Cup in the last 40 odd years and you're best team on the planet...
WATPOAE
Post by: elan on September 12, 2008, 01:23:56 PM
By Soccernet staff
Chelsea have confirmed that assistant manager Steve Clarke has handed in his resignation.
Steve Clarke was happier under Jose Mourinho at Stamford Bridge.
The former Scotland defender reportedly handed in the request on Thursday night and it could pave the way for a move to West Ham United, where he could work in a similar capacity under Gianfranco Zola, the new manager.
A Chelsea spokesman said: ''Chelsea can confirm that West Ham have made an approach with regards to talking to Steve Clarke.
''They have not been given permission to talk to him.
''Steve Clarke has tendered his resignation as assistant first team coach. We have not accepted his resignation. Talks are continuing.''
His appointment is expected to be announced in the next few days, once the club have agreed a severance package with Chelsea. Although the West London club are demanding £1.2 million in compensation because Clarke has two years left to run on his contract.
New Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari has already wished him well in his new post.
He said: ''Now I have been told he is going I am sad but I understand Steve. All people have projects in their life.
''I don't agree with his decision but I am happy for him because I like Stevie. I like him as a person and as a coach and I wish him all the best.''
Scolari had made efforts to persuade Clarke, whom he regards as his expert on English football, to stay.
''Yesterday I invited Steve to visit my house and we discussed the situation between West Ham and Chelsea,'' he added.
''I told him what I thought and this morning told (chief executive) Peter Kenyon what I think about Steve, that he is very important for me and for Chelsea.
''He is a man that is a link between me and the players and between me and the staff. He knows Chelsea very well and English players and clubs.
''When he told me about his projects I said to him I could be the man who would open more chances for him to be the head coach in England or in other countries.
''And I said I would give him more responsibility at Chelsea and would tell the press that Steve wanted to fly alone in the future.
''I don't know what happened in the night but when I came here in the morning I heard he had resigned.''
Clarke's decision comes as something of a shock given that he has ties that go back over 20 years with the club, but after four years as No 2 at Stamford Bridge it became clear that he would not fit in with the Scolari regime.
It is understood that Clarke has been effectively sidelined since Scolari was appointed in the summer, with the Brazilian relying almost entirely on Darlan Schneider, his other assistant, whom he brought with him from Portugal.
Despite taking what many have seen as a backward step, Clarke is said to be relishing the opportunity of linking up again with Zola, with whom he played for two years at Chelsea.
Post by: elan on September 13, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
2 mins later Carvalho 1-1
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on September 13, 2008, 11:07:51 AM
Is this the Man United Forever thread? ::)
No, he's just posting here for the same reasons you post in the United threads...
;D
Post by: dinho on September 13, 2008, 11:10:01 AM
where are the morals in football? ::)
Post by: giggsy11 on September 13, 2008, 11:21:23 AM
Is this the Man United Forever thread? ::)
EVERBODY ON CHELSKI'S SIDE IS A DONKEY! LOL!
Post by: elan on September 13, 2008, 11:56:30 AM
Is this the Man United Forever thread? ::)
EVERBODY ON CHELSKI'S SIDE IS A DONKEY! LOL!
We leading 2-1 so I guess that demoted y'all to mules. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: elan on September 13, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
3-1 WE
Drogba and Belletti on.
Post by: dinho on September 13, 2008, 12:45:25 PM
Hard luck dey meh boy Giggsy, we just got upgraded to Thorough Bred. Anelka in the 70'
3-1 WE
Drogba and Belletti on.
elan, yuh see de brand was knocking out there today?
Post by: Toppa on September 13, 2008, 12:54:49 PM
Post by: dinho on September 13, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
Robinho is such a frigging idiot!
u like how he kiss the man city badge when he score?
Post by: samo on September 13, 2008, 01:19:33 PM
Post by: Toppa on September 13, 2008, 01:24:03 PM
Robinho is such a frigging idiot!
u like how he kiss the man city badge when he score?
I didn't watch the match. Did he do that? steupsss
Post by: SOBRIQUET on September 13, 2008, 02:02:19 PM
Post by: dinho on September 13, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
did anyone see the way Deco was abusing people in that middle today? the double cap? the chap and breed on the left side? shit... for now that man is the bargain of the season :)
yeah boy, the double cap down by the right back position was real stink... It remind me of what Cafu did to Nedved when he was playing at Roma.. But Robinho issue some small beat too, I see someone get a piece ah something on the byline, a lil pull back and push. Real men going and get eat off this year.
Some of the knock in that game was sublime, Deco making ah big difference..
But I still have questions over Obi Mikel. The youth too friggin wild and uncoordinated with he tackles and he showing some serious goat potential. He hadda improve with Essien out for so long. Ah missing Makalele already.
Post by: injunchile on September 13, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
Post by: kicker on September 13, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
yeah boy, the double cap down by the right back position was real stink... It remind me of what Cafu did to Nedved when he was playing at Roma.. But Robinho issue some small beat too, I see someone get a piece ah something on the byline, a lil pull back and push. Real men going and get eat off this year.
Some of the knock in that game was sublime, Deco making ah big difference..
But I still have questions over Obi Mikel. The youth too friggin wild and uncoordinated with he tackles and he showing some serious goat potential. He hadda improve with Essien out for so long. Ah missing Makalele already.
...Yuh bring back memories dey....Cafu hat up Nedved 3 times then hat up Simeone who rush in and foul him...The kinda move that would get yuh God like status in Trini....
But on another note, could Deco be the best #10 (even though he wears 20) in the game today ?.... To me he was the only on form man in Portugal side in the Euros and today he was in a class by himself against City.
p.s. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4my2u4f7ljs
Post by: Toppa on September 13, 2008, 04:32:03 PM
BBC Sports commentator said Robinio must be regretting not going to Chelsea after that class performance today.
It wasn't his fault.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 14, 2008, 03:30:05 AM
September 14, 2008
David Walsh
Excerpt
... Seven minutes in, Robinho galloped wide to take a corner and every City fan stood and applauded. Excessive perhaps but five minutes later, they had good reason to express their gratitude. Jo and Carvalho went for a ball on the edge of the penalty area, the defender seemed to get the ball before Jo fell over but Mark Halsey saw it differently.
Robinho spent ages lining up the free, Chelsea spent longer lining up the wall, the crowd had time to consider every penny of that £32.4m and, then in a flash, everything was reduced to chance. Wall member John Mikel Obi got his head to Robinho’s free kick, deflecting it wickedly past his goalkeeper, Petr Cech.
But that deflection was a detail easily ignored by an entranced crowd. In those minutes, the hype was justified, the transfer fee an irrelevance and City were on their way. Except that Chelsea hadn’t come from London like Chelsea teams of bygone days. Even in the moment of that goal, there wasn’t a hint of doubt, nor a trace of panic in their reaction.
And in a game which ebbed and flowed with excellent football, their passing was crisper and more penetrative. Robinho may become a very fine Premier League player in time but he wasn’t that yesterday. He gave the ball away too often and we are talking about straightforward passes missing the target.
He wasn’t a patch on Frank Lampard, who was the game's best player and by quite some distance. To every good Chelsea move, he was central: the choice of his pass, the timing, the accuracy, the weight, he had it all and it was a joy to watch. What the other Chelsea players love about Lampard is that he never takes a fraction more time to make the (sic) than is necessary.
It is clear too that Lampard likes playing with Deco, they weave patterns that look simple but because it all done quickly, it creates space and there were times yesterday when Chelsea looked a very slick side. Their equaliser came just four minutes after City’s goal, and even if that was timely for them, it wasn't that surprising.
For they picked up the pace after conceding and when Shaun Wright-Phillips conceded a corner against his former club, Lampard's delivery picked out Terry, whose header ricocheted off Joe Cole backwards into Carvalho's path and the centre-back slammed his right-foot volley high into the roof of the net. Poor City goalkeeper Joe Hart was lucky that he wasn’t in the way. Perhaps the Gods were making up to Carvalho after that free kick award.
The game continued to hum along; City were good but Chelsea were better. Florent Malouda got his head to a Joe Cole cross but the ball crashed against the bar and when Jo and later Stephen Ireland had good shooting chances, Carvalvo got back to make brilliant blocks. Ia there a central defender anywhere who makes those tackles better than the Portuguese?
By the time Ireland’s effort was blocked, Chelsea were already in front, thanks to another demonstration of Lampard’s class. He surged through from midfield, exchanged passes with Ashley Cole and, forced on to his left foot, he rifled his shot into the far corner. Brilliant. Though City kept playing and the fun continued, Chelsea were always superior.
Anelka got their third goal, after good work by Malouda and a clever final pass from Joe Cole. Fifteen the end, John Terry got a straight red card – the first of his career – when Mark Halsey deemed him the last defender when he fouled Jo. It was a slightly harsh decision as other defenders scampered back and were not far away when the Brazilian fell.
City kept trying but even with Jo, Vincent Kompany and Pablo Zabaleta all showing they can become big players for the club, there was a challenge to the nouveau riche in the performance of the team with Roman's old money and it was this: can City absorb all their new wealth and find the team spirit that make Chelsea so formidable?
Post by: elan on September 15, 2008, 10:45:52 AM
By Soccernet staff
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll314/Chunkycj/johnterryoff_275_e.jpg)
GettyImages
Terry was sent off for impeding City striker Jo.
Chelsea have submitted a claim for wrongful dismissal on behalf of John Terry who was sent off against Manchester City at the weekend.
It is understood that Terry will have little chance of his sending-off being overturned as referee Mark Halsey deemed the defender's holding block on Brazilian striker Jo as serious foul play as opposed to a professional foul.
The FA are unable to downgrade red cards to yellow, unless the club can somehow demonstrate that Terry should not have been cautioned.
Team-mate Frank Lampard disputed the dismissal in a post-match interview after Chelsea's 3-1 win at Eastlands, saying: "If you start giving out red cards like that you'll have four or five in a game. Hopefully they'll look at it again and make it a yellow card. It's not a red card when there's two men behind the ball."
Should Terry fail to earn a reprieve, he will miss Sunday's decisive game against Manchester United. Should a three-match suspension be imposed, Terry will also be unavailable for the games against Stoke and Aston Villa.
Post by: elan on September 16, 2008, 01:00:28 PM
Chelsea 1 - Bordeaux 0
Post by: elan on September 16, 2008, 01:15:31 PM
Joe Cole 29'
Chelsea 2 - Bordeaux 0
Post by: elan on October 21, 2008, 09:42:37 AM
These Chelsea supporters is real fair weather. ::)
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 21, 2008, 10:18:28 AM
Post by: dinho on October 21, 2008, 04:09:11 PM
Best team in the league right now and not a different thread every 2 sec.?
These Chelsea supporters is real fair weather. ::)
lol..
no need to start a new thread for every Chelsea versus WASA clean & white game that come up in ah week..
by the way...
- no joe cole
- no drogba
- no ballack
- no ashley cole
- no carvalho
- no essien
chelsea 5 boro 0
NO PROBLEM!
Post by: giggsy11 on October 21, 2008, 05:43:42 PM
Best team in the league right now and not a different thread every 2 sec.?
These Chelsea supporters is real fair weather. ::)
lol..
no need to start a new thread for every Chelsea versus WASA clean & white game that come up in ah week..
by the way...
- no joe cole
- no drogba
- no ballack
- no ashley cole
- no carvalho
- no essien
chelsea 5 boro 0
NO PROBLEM!
wait dey aint play this match saturday? yuh could'nt find the thread or wat or the current jus come back?
Post by: dinho on November 01, 2008, 02:33:01 PM
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
Post by: kicker on November 01, 2008, 05:54:12 PM
aahhh yes.. mash up ah next side 5-0.
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
This game wasn't as much about Chelsea being good as it was about Sunderland being bad....From my memory all but one of the goals were kinda weak.
Post by: elan on November 01, 2008, 07:03:05 PM
aahhh yes.. mash up ah next side 5-0.
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
This game wasn't as much about Chelsea being good as it was about Sunderland being bad....From my memory all but one of the goals were kinda weak.
Chelsea make it so easy, it had to be the other team was bad. If you can't get the ball how will you play? Quality is quality son, match up Sunderland with Chelsea position for position and see what you get.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 01, 2008, 07:12:19 PM
aahhh yes.. mash up ah next side 5-0.
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
This game wasn't as much about Chelsea being good as it was about Sunderland being bad....From my memory all but one of the goals were kinda weak.
Chelsea make it so easy, it had to be the other team was bad. If you can't get the ball how will you play? Quality is quality son, match up Sunderland with Chelsea position for position and see what you get.
Keane buy a pack ah shite! Coach a bunch ah shite! Sunderland play a bunch ah shite! Chelski aint winning shite!
Post by: elan on November 01, 2008, 07:13:21 PM
aahhh yes.. mash up ah next side 5-0.
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
This game wasn't as much about Chelsea being good as it was about Sunderland being bad....From my memory all but one of the goals were kinda weak.
Chelsea make it so easy, it had to be the other team was bad. If you can't get the ball how will you play? Quality is quality son, match up Sunderland with Chelsea position for position and see what you get.
Keane buy a pack ah shite! Coach a bunch ah shite! Sunderland play a bunch ah shite! Chelski aint winning shite!
Who Hull almost purge today? :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on November 02, 2008, 11:17:44 AM
aahhh yes.. mash up ah next side 5-0.
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
This game wasn't as much about Chelsea being good as it was about Sunderland being bad....From my memory all but one of the goals were kinda weak.
Chelsea make it so easy, it had to be the other team was bad. If you can't get the ball how will you play? Quality is quality son, match up Sunderland with Chelsea position for position and see what you get.
Keane buy a pack ah shite! Coach a bunch ah shite! Sunderland play a bunch ah shite! Chelski aint winning shite!
Who Hull almost purge today? :rotfl: :rotfl:
Like Brandy sang "almost doesn't count"!
Post by: kicker on November 02, 2008, 11:25:46 AM
aahhh yes.. mash up ah next side 5-0.
we running barcelona for most goals in europe.
this thread has a nice feel good kinda vibe unlike the other thread. lol
This game wasn't as much about Chelsea being good as it was about Sunderland being bad....From my memory all but one of the goals were kinda weak.
Chelsea make it so easy, it had to be the other team was bad. If you can't get the ball how will you play? Quality is quality son, match up Sunderland with Chelsea position for position and see what you get.
No one is questioning Chelsea's quality or whether or not Chelsea is a notch or two better than Sunderland in pretty much every part of the field... but if Sunderland employed their best talent around the pitch and played a better team game they could come off the field against Chelsea with alot more respect than they did this weekend. From what I remember alot of Sunderland's errors in possession were unforced and due to a lack of focus/concentration....and Chelsea had one neat, well created goal...the others were scrappy and gifted to them by poor defending/questionable goalkeeping... If you worship your team so much that you can't see that point of view then so be it...
Post by: elan on November 04, 2008, 03:04:47 PM
Post by: scarface on November 04, 2008, 03:06:39 PM
Roma ripping we to shreds. Damn :o :o
isn't it great? ;D
Post by: acb on November 04, 2008, 03:23:53 PM
The height of assness.
Post by: scarface on November 04, 2008, 03:34:58 PM
Well if Cyd Gray getting sent off for an all ball tackle was bad enough ... how RIDICULOUS was Deco getting sent off for taking a freekick too quickly!!!
The height of assness.
yeh but he shud have been off b4 for that for them 2 fouls he make rite b4 that d ref let go!!! so he was lucvky to even be on the pitch still.
d ref was makin up! ;D he was just waiting fo deco to do sumting again when he realised she shud have sent him off.
but i eh care!!! forza italian teams (except inter)
Post by: rotatopoti3 on November 04, 2008, 05:05:15 PM
Scolari makes case for defence
Chelsea manager Luiz Felipe Scolari believes the Blues' defence could be the key to success in the Champions League this season.
Scolari's side have yet to concede in the Champions League this season but they have become renowned for a new attacking style in the Premier League.
Yet the Brazilian coach insists his back four could play a pivotal part in the club reaching the final of the competition for the second successive year.
They take on Roma in the Stadio Olimpico on Tuesday night knowing victory will guarantee them a place in the knockout stages.
"I think it is very important for our team that they have confidence in our defence," said Scolari.
"We know that we have very good players in midfield and in attack. I think, in the 14 or 15 games, we've only failed to score in one or two.
"We know that if we don't score goals, we'll have a chance of at least a draw.
"In this Champions League, we've won two games and drawn one 0-0 and, I think, when I have a very good defence, I have a very good attack."
Well he spoke to quick..he must be feelin hard done now...Dem Roma goals look sweet...
Post by: sammy on November 04, 2008, 05:21:33 PM
yeh but he shud have been off b4 for that for them 2 fouls he make rite b4 that d ref let go!!! so he was lucvky to even be on the pitch still.
d ref was makin up! ;D he was just waiting fo deco to do sumting again when he realised she shud have sent him off.
but i eh care!!! forza italian teams (except inter)
Some men here does only see what they want to see, and conveniently leave out vital bits of info to make a stronger case in order to propagate their view.
Post by: acb on November 04, 2008, 05:28:55 PM
have you ever seen in any game of football that a player gets a yellow card for taking a freekick too quickly?
In all cases it's someone who is infringing from the wall. Deco was attempting to restart the game as quickly as possible to try to score another goal.
What the ref writes in his report will clarify exactly what happened and his thought process.
Post by: sammy on November 04, 2008, 05:42:52 PM
Fine - he couldve been sent off for any of the earlier tackles with a second yellow card. However, how can the ref still get all three call wrong, and send off a man for a non-bookable offense?
so if u admitting that he coulda get sent off for his deplorable behavior, then y u fighting this point? taking the free kick too fast was the straw that break the camels back. U doing like if u never see a referee make calls to "makeup" for wrong decisions earlier on
have you ever seen in any game of football that a player gets a yellow card for taking a freekick too quickly?
In all cases it's someone who is infringing from the wall. Deco was attempting to restart the game as quickly as possible to try to score another goal.
Yeah, that happened in an Argentina vs Uruguay game a few weeks ago.
What the ref writes in his report will clarify exactly what happened and his thought process.
Post by: acb on November 04, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
Fine - he couldve been sent off for any of the earlier tackles with a second yellow card. However, how can the ref still get all three call wrong, and send off a man for a non-bookable offense?
so if u admitting that he coulda get sent off for his deplorable behavior, then y u fighting this point? taking the free kick too fast was the straw that break the camels back. U doing like if u never see a referee make calls to "makeup" for wrong decisions earlier on
have you ever seen in any game of football that a player gets a yellow card for taking a freekick too quickly?
In all cases it's someone who is infringing from the wall. Deco was attempting to restart the game as quickly as possible to try to score another goal.
Yeah, that happened in an Argentina vs Uruguay game a few weeks ago.
What the ref writes in his report will clarify exactly what happened and his thought process.
With that argument - then Cyd Gray was correctly sent off against Guatemala in Guatemala City.
The Ref used a clean tackle as a make up call for Cyd's boorish behaviour in the match up until that point. All the complaining, flailing arms, and minor tackles warranted a second yellow card for a clean tackle. It was only a make-up call by the ref.
Also, in the game earlier this season, Rob Styles awarding a penalty for a phantom foul on C. Ronaldo was also a makeup call for all the other missed tackles that went unpunished earlier in the game. It wasn't a foul, but it was C. Ronaldo, Man U, Fergie AND they were in Old Trafford.
It remained a make up call until he saw how STUPID and one-sided the decision was. The same way Cyd Gray and Deco's decisions were STUPID and one-sided.
... and that game with Argentina-Uruguay, I remember that game had about 20 yellow cards for all types of maddness. In Connmebol, you could stamp a man and get away with it, but if you throw the ball in 5 yards from where you shouldve thrown it in, you will get a caution.
Post by: sammy on November 04, 2008, 06:13:29 PM
deco dutty and deserve a red no matter what u come with. I eh know what u talking bout ronaldo or cyd gray or who ever, that eh gone change the obvious fact that deco deserve and get red, if u cyah see and admit that, then something wrong with u.
Post by: D.H.W on November 04, 2008, 06:17:23 PM
Post by: capodetutticapi on November 04, 2008, 06:21:57 PM
Post by: acb on November 04, 2008, 06:25:17 PM
take it easy brother, dont blow a gasket.
deco dutty and deserve a red no matter what u come with. I eh know what u talking bout ronaldo or cyd gray or who ever, that eh gone change the obvious fact that deco deserve and get red, if u cyah see and admit that, then something wrong with u.
nah, no sweat.
I simply stating that Deco did not deserve to get sent off today on that play.
Match officials want players and coaches to respect them during the game, so stick to the rules of the game. No where in the rules have provisions for "make up calls"
If the ref thought Deco deserved a redcard earlier in the match - then give it out. Don't wait for something petty to make a shit call.
The thing supposed to be run professionally - no love lost in the end.
Lamps and Totti was chatting at the end of the match.
J. Baptista and Drogba was laughing.
Riise was practising he english with everybody on Chelsea team.
Post by: sammy on November 04, 2008, 06:25:46 PM
:o
Post by: dinho on November 04, 2008, 06:26:59 PM
minor blip on the radar.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 04, 2008, 08:36:05 PM
Lamps and Totti was chatting at the end of the match.
J. Baptista and Drogba was laughing.
Riise was practising he english with everybody on Chelsea team.
We get we lunch handed to us today, we get a sound cutarse!! We will take it like men and move on to the next game. Well done, Roma, game well played. :applause:
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 07, 2008, 06:47:53 AM
ROMA! ahahahahahahahahahahahahah :rotfl:hahahahahahahahhahaha
Post by: dinho on November 07, 2008, 04:40:16 PM
in honor og omardhino's consitent and often humorous postings on th earsneal forever thread i just have a few words to say, and yes the kettle is calling the pot black, deal with it!
ROMA! ahahahahahahahahahahahahah :rotfl:hahahahahahahahhahaha
:rotfl:
at 10am tomorrow morning, i will be sure to respond to this post in the proper manner. ;)
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 08, 2008, 08:35:01 AM
in honor og omardhino's consitent and often humorous postings on th earsneal forever thread i just have a few words to say, and yes the kettle is calling the pot black, deal with it!
ROMA! ahahahahahahahahahahahahah :rotfl:hahahahahahahahhahaha
:rotfl:
at 10am tomorrow morning, i will be sure to respond to this post in the proper manner. ;)
tick tock tick tock
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 08, 2008, 08:57:56 AM
where yuh gone? tatics meeting with big phil?
Post by: MarylandTrini on November 08, 2008, 09:11:11 AM
in honor og omardhino's consitent and often humorous postings on th earsneal forever thread i just have a few words to say, and yes the kettle is calling the pot black, deal with it!
ROMA! ahahahahahahahahahahahahah :rotfl:hahahahahahahahhahaha
:rotfl:
at 10am tomorrow morning, i will be sure to respond to this post in the proper manner. ;)
It have a 10 am in the evening?
Post by: dinho on November 08, 2008, 09:31:58 AM
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 12, 2008, 04:34:46 PM
Burnley ???
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 12, 2008, 04:40:27 PM
Viva Obi Mikel
Viva Obi Mikel
If only if only
f**k Chelsea Viva Burnley
Viva Obi Mikel
Post by: dinho on November 12, 2008, 04:41:56 PM
Post by: acb on November 12, 2008, 04:52:29 PM
great loss today that will allow Chelsea to refocus on the Champions league and EPL. ;)
... and FA Cup too! :-\
Post by: morvant on November 12, 2008, 05:00:37 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 12, 2008, 05:23:22 PM
great loss today that will allow Chelsea to refocus on the Champions league and EPL. ;)
same champs league where roma school you lot?
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 12, 2008, 05:23:52 PM
great loss today that will allow Chelsea to refocus on the Champions league and EPL. ;)
... and FA Cup too! :-\
when is fa cup draw?
Post by: giggsy11 on November 12, 2008, 06:07:33 PM
Post by: Observer on November 12, 2008, 07:23:56 PM
I live in Fiji, 10am is in about 5 more hours, check back later.
At least you could get a sea bath ;D Go dink some Kava kava and make contact in the morning ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 12, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
Post by: MarylandTrini on November 13, 2008, 12:17:27 AM
Watch dem....dy jumpin' on de haters' waggon! Doh worry, allyuh turn go come! >:(
Like nobody does jump on the Arsenal thread? Is the haters keeping that thread on top all the time.
Post by: MarylandTrini on November 13, 2008, 12:58:27 AM
I live in Fiji, 10am is in about 5 more hours, check back later.
It look like that 10am was 5 more days :rotfl:
Post by: MarylandTrini on November 19, 2008, 08:40:12 PM
By Paul Smith, sundaymirror.co.uk 16/11/2008
Chelsea are considering cutting costs by charging players and staff for meals at their Cobham training ground.
Despite being owned by billionaire Roman Abramovich, the Blues laid off 15 international scouts to reduce expenditure two weeks ago.
Now Chris Alexander, their finance director, has canvassed rivals for their approach to charging staff for catering. In his e-mail Alexander reveals: "Even we're starting to look at the cost base!"
A spokesman confirmed: "Costs at the training ground are part of an ongoing review.
"We are aware that other clubs charge staff and players, but no decision has been taken yet."
A senior Chelsea player said last night: "They must be joking if they think we'll pay for a crappy sandwich and a cup of tea. Next they'll be putting meters in the players' car park or asking the NCP to run it for them."
It's understood that chief executive Peter Kenyon has requested cost reviews in all departments of the club.
And after instigating the cuts to the scouting staff, sporting director Frank Arnesen said: "A structure is now in place, even though the credit crunch has meant Roman Abramovich has hit the financial brake and asked us to cut deep.
"We have cut down significantly on scouts and other activities."
And manager Luiz Felipe Scolari recently revealed he cannot buy any players in the January transfer window, unless he raises funds by selling first. Kenyon has insisted in the past that Chelsea would target breaking-even by 2010.
Post by: morvant on November 19, 2008, 08:51:11 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 19, 2008, 09:43:22 PM
the pockets not so deep now eh?
cut backs smells like a cash flow problem
Post by: elan on November 19, 2008, 09:49:41 PM
Chelsea planning to charge players for canteen food to cut costs - Exclusive
By Paul Smith, sundaymirror.co.uk 16/11/2008
Chelsea are considering cutting costs by charging players and staff for meals at their Cobham training ground.
Despite being owned by billionaire Roman Abramovich, the Blues laid off 15 international scouts to reduce expenditure two weeks ago.
Now Chris Alexander, their finance director, has canvassed rivals for their approach to charging staff for catering. In his e-mail Alexander reveals: "Even we're starting to look at the cost base!"
A spokesman confirmed: "Costs at the training ground are part of an ongoing review.
"We are aware that other clubs charge staff and players, but no decision has been taken yet."
A senior Chelsea player said last night: "They must be joking if they think we'll pay for a crappy sandwich and a cup of tea. Next they'll be putting meters in the players' car park or asking the NCP to run it for them."
It's understood that chief executive Peter Kenyon has requested cost reviews in all departments of the club.
And after instigating the cuts to the scouting staff, sporting director Frank Arnesen said: "A structure is now in place, even though the credit crunch has meant Roman Abramovich has hit the financial brake and asked us to cut deep.
"We have cut down significantly on scouts and other activities."
And manager Luiz Felipe Scolari recently revealed he cannot buy any players in the January transfer window, unless he raises funds by selling first. Kenyon has insisted in the past that Chelsea would target breaking-even by 2010.
So they trying to stop depending on "Suga Daddy" and that's a laugh?
Try catch up....haterz.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 19, 2008, 10:00:57 PM
i hear scolari does sell bottle water on the sidelines too :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Arright, allyuh haterz........enjoy allyuh self. We go be chargin' people to look at we trophy and dem come end o" de season, too.
Post by: morvant on November 20, 2008, 07:15:57 AM
i hear scolari does sell bottle water on the sidelines too :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Arright, allyuh haterz........enjoy allyuh self. We go be chargin' people to look at we trophy and dem come end o" de season, too.
just doh get injured cause that mircale spray costing 10 euro ah puff :rotfl:
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 20, 2008, 10:16:40 AM
i hear scolari does sell bottle water on the sidelines too :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Arright, allyuh haterz........enjoy allyuh self. We go be chargin' people to look at we trophy and dem come end o" de season, too.
what the two prem, one 1st div, four carling cup, and four fa cup in over 50 years trophy room
mus be a max capacity of 5 ppl at a time
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 22, 2008, 11:11:36 AM
i hear scolari does sell bottle water on the sidelines too :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Arright, allyuh haterz........enjoy allyuh self. We go be chargin' people to look at we trophy and dem come end o" de season, too.
what the two prem, one 1st div, four carling cup, and four fa cup in over 50 years trophy room
mus be a max capacity of 5 ppl at a time
Nah, breds, I was actually talking about THIS season's spoils aka: any of the trophies that ass n' all WON'T be winning this season. What's in the past is in the past.
Held goalless by the might Geordies of Newcastle.
.....and Fulham are the mighty what?
Post by: dinho on November 22, 2008, 12:26:46 PM
and that game play off exactly like this one..
back then, SWP put down a pile of lala (malouda), the game was flat with hardly any chances and frustrating. i think that one was a draw or a narrow win for chelsea, but watching this game today it was like groundhog day..
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 22, 2008, 12:38:44 PM
funny thing is, the last chelsea game i went to was against newcastle at stamford bridge in 2006..
and that game play off exactly like this one..
back then, SWP put down a pile of lala (malouda), the game was flat with hardly any chances and frustrating. i think that one was a draw or a narrow win for chelsea, but watching this game today it was like groundhog day..
Sometimes Chelsea does play a little too methodical...like they can't seem to remove themselves from that style of thinking. Granted, Newcastle had little to no forays in their own attacking third..but, of the few times they did, Chelsea too often made a few too many backward or lateral passes in their counterattack, rather than putting the Newcastle defense on their heels quickly by running at them. Newcastle were prepared to tough out a defensive draw in this one and seemed to have played more with a sense of commitment to get their result than Chelsea played with to get theirs. Oh well....let's hope Aston Villa hold on and everything will be kosher for this weekend.
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 23, 2008, 07:54:48 AM
arsenal are past masters of letting opportunities to pass us by
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 25, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
3rd defeat in a row?
6th for the season?
i feel another 5-0 win for chelsea, former arsenal players love hading us a goal or two
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 25, 2008, 11:17:07 PM
when sunday comes
3rd defeat in a row?
6th for the season?
i feel another 5-0 win for chelsea, former arsenal players love hading us a goal or two
:rotfl: GS, yuh feel man is cobo here or wha? Doh try dat, Padnah, yuh know dam well yuh rubbin' yuh hands in glee, lookin' fuh a surprise ass n' all victory! Take care dat reverse sky-skullogy really work in trute eh!! Hold dat!: :beermug: Yuh might need it sundy.....but not for what yuh tink!
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 26, 2008, 03:53:45 AM
when sunday comes
3rd defeat in a row?
6th for the season?
i feel another 5-0 win for chelsea, former arsenal players love hading us a goal or two
:rotfl: GS, yuh feel man is cobo here or wha? Doh try dat, Padnah, yuh know dam well yuh rubbin' yuh hands in glee, lookin' fuh a surprise ass n' all victory! Take care dat reverse sky-skullogy really work in trute eh!! Hold dat!: :beermug: Yuh might need it sundy.....but not for what yuh tink!
no, it is a pre-emptive strike for the possible/inevitable, taking the sting out of it, like looking away before the doctor jabs that needle or just before the train wrecks
Post by: doublet750 on November 26, 2008, 09:20:54 AM
QUESTION IS WHICH BATTLE IS IT ???will it be one where Arsenal wins or one like Sparta or Troy where once you essentially lose your team goes to ruins
Chelsea on teh da though 2-0 (IF so little)
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 26, 2008, 10:20:13 AM
btw think of it this way, had arsenal beaten birmingham home and away last year we would have been prem champs (not a spilled milk cry a fact) so results against big 4 are not the only determining factor
look how liverpool let thier win over you guys slip with a loss to spurs.
its a mara thon and anything can happen
its why the prem ranks higher than anyother league in terms or entertainment
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 26, 2008, 10:41:34 AM
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 26, 2008, 12:05:46 PM
Hopefully Le Arse could take something from the rent boys...i'll be a gooner on sunday..well from 12pm-2pm anyway...any more than that and i'd consider myself gay
careful what you wish for, all that talk of rent boys an almost gay probably has you cold sweating
Post by: sammy on November 26, 2008, 12:35:12 PM
...any more than that and i'd consider myself gay
u better watch u self yes, dem chelpea men like dat kinda talk.
anyhow, go arsenal!
Post by: acb on November 26, 2008, 12:48:17 PM
Regardless of the opposition.
... and allyuh talking about men gay. LOUD STEUPS!!!!
Whenever ManUre playing Liverpool, I does pray for men to jump-kick, hadoken, yoga-flame and sonic boom the sh!t out of one another so everybody could get send off.
Post by: acb on November 26, 2008, 02:04:06 PM
0-0 (18 mins)
The more I see of Mikel these days, the more I miss Essien.
Post by: elan on November 26, 2008, 02:13:48 PM
Post by: acb on November 26, 2008, 02:17:07 PM
This ref needs to get off his knees.
He's blowing the game.
Post by: elan on November 26, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
who wouldve thought of the day you see die-hard ManUre fans rooting for Arsenal.
Regardless of the opposition.
... and allyuh talking about men gay. LOUD STEUPS!!!!
Whenever ManUre playing Liverpool, I does pray for men to jump-kick, hadoken, yoga-flame and sonic boom the sh!t out of one another so everybody could get send off.
They does only talk affiliation they don't really understand, is ah set ah talkers. Men typing in English slang and thing and now want to support Arsenal to beat Chelsea.
Post by: capodetutticapi on November 26, 2008, 02:49:31 PM
Post by: elan on November 26, 2008, 03:18:24 PM
We just biding we time, we don't get scared to easily, like other supporters and their team.
Post by: elan on November 26, 2008, 03:24:59 PM
Sweet goal.
Post by: elan on November 26, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
5 minutes to play
1-1
Post by: elan on November 26, 2008, 03:35:53 PM
Post by: Bakes on November 26, 2008, 03:38:12 PM
Second yellow on Lampard was undeserved... barely a foul, but sold well by the defender.
Post by: sammy on November 26, 2008, 03:43:13 PM
Post by: acb on November 26, 2008, 03:48:11 PM
barely a foul, but sold well by the defender.
France eh too far from Portugal.
Post by: sammy on November 26, 2008, 08:22:43 PM
Post by: acb on November 26, 2008, 09:22:31 PM
That will be an epic fail.
Goals will rain down on them.
Bordeaux has to travel to Roma .... there is no way they will get any homeside advantages that they got today. Roma will easily dispatch of them.
Chelsea and Roma to the second round. No fuss.
Post by: Blue on November 27, 2008, 02:45:16 AM
Lucky win by Chelsea.... classy finish by Anelka.
Second yellow on Lampard was undeserved... barely a foul, but sold well by the defender.
check d final scores again, lol
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 27, 2008, 02:59:29 AM
Hopefully Le Arse could take something from the rent boys...i'll be a gooner on sunday..well from 12pm-2pm anyway...any more than that and i'd consider myself gay
But there's no bigger
Post by: MarylandTrini on November 28, 2008, 04:44:30 PM
Post by: MarylandTrini on November 28, 2008, 04:46:12 PM
Hopefully Le Arse could take something from the rent boys...i'll be a gooner on sunday..well from 12pm-2pm anyway...any more than that and i'd consider myself gay
But there's no biggermetro/tri/bisexualfagot in the epl than cronaldo!!
Just because the man like to have sex in the same swimming pool and room with Nani and Anderson? :devil:
Post by: elan on December 09, 2008, 03:32:41 PM
We play real shyte though. Cech needs to wake up soon.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 09, 2008, 07:05:03 PM
Didier Drogba is the man, steps onto the field and make it look easy.
We play real shyte though. Cech needs to wake up soon.
Everything on that goal was perfect, starting with the chip from John Mikel Obi (sweet!) to Joe Cole to Joe Cole's pass to Drogba's cool collection and finish. I agree that we played shyte today, but I eh understand what yuh mean about Cech, though. I eh fine he do nutting wrong today.
Post by: elan on December 09, 2008, 10:31:42 PM
Didier Drogba is the man, steps onto the field and make it look easy.
We play real shyte though. Cech needs to wake up soon.
Everything on that goal was perfect, starting with the chip from John Mikel Obi (sweet!) to Joe Cole to Joe Cole's pass to Drogba's cool collection and finish. I agree that we played shyte today, but I eh understand what yuh mean about Cech, though. I eh fine he do nutting wrong today.
I find he a little complacent in the goal. He to comfortable I find. The goal against was great, but he could have made a better effort.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2008, 11:11:53 AM
Didier Drogba is the man, steps onto the field and make it look easy.
We play real shyte though. Cech needs to wake up soon.
Everything on that goal was perfect, starting with the chip from John Mikel Obi (sweet!) to Joe Cole to Joe Cole's pass to Drogba's cool collection and finish. I agree that we played shyte today, but I eh understand what yuh mean about Cech, though. I eh fine he do nutting wrong today.
I find he a little complacent in the goal. He to comfortable I find. The goal against was great, but he could have made a better effort.
:rotfl: Elan!! Allyuh men WICKED, boy! :rotfl: What better effort yuh wanted, jed? De man dive fuh de ball but probably realize he wasn't going to get it and shifted his body to make a proper landing man. That header practically rifle into the corner of the net. No 'keeper was gettin' dat ball, man. Yuh fussin' wit de doubles man fuh shortin' yuh one chick pea in yuh doubles on dah one.
As far as his being too comfortable in goal, ah cyah tell yuh how to feel 'bout dat, nor am I sure if you talkin' 'bout his playing style or his personality. I find he is as composed as he need to be and he gets fired up and scream at his defenders when he feel he have to. His personality is his personality, and not every 'keeper does be like Lehman, Kahn, Zenga or Grobelaar. He does a great job still. But, respek still. :beermug:
Post by: elan on December 22, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
Post by: sammy on December 22, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
Cech showed why he is the best GK in the EPL. With 10 men not a bad result still undefeated. On to next weekend. ;D
steups, when u moving happy happy for yuh draw how yuh expect we to pong allyuh?
>:(
them "lesser" sides real holding their own now boy. No 3 points guaranteed for the big 2 again. Buh doh study it, we coming back from the WC with a vengeance. :devil:
Post by: elan on December 22, 2008, 06:56:56 PM
Cech showed why he is the best GK in the EPL. With 10 men not a bad result still undefeated. On to next weekend. ;D
steups, when u moving happy happy for yuh draw how yuh expect we to pong allyuh?
>:(
them "lesser" sides real holding their own now boy. No 3 points guaranteed for the big 2 again. Buh doh study it, we coming back from the WC with a vengeance. :devil:
I just writing how Man United fans does write when they draw against teams in the bottom 6. I does always pong Chelsea.
Post by: dinho on December 22, 2008, 07:02:11 PM
ok so they playing a brand that is much easier on the eye, but i noticing a lack of killer instinct... Is like we get a waft of Arsenal's pungent odor..
before, when they went a goal down you knew for sure that they would hit back. Home games was guaranteed points.. Now, real points getting shave off at stamford bridge, and when they under pressure they not forcing a response... I eh seeing de steel!
hopefully they could set things straight and soon.
Post by: elan on December 28, 2008, 01:00:59 PM
Post by: JDB on January 10, 2009, 08:13:07 AM
Now the pursestrings tightening. I see Bridge gone, they better hope Ashley Cole don't get injured otherwise it is Ferreira (A 16M pound waster fighting up at left-back)
Has the Chelsea dream gone sour for absent Abramovich? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jan/10/chelsea-roman-abramovich-premier-league)
Where once he was passionate, the owner seems struck by ennui at the club's questionable progress
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Roman Abramovich at the opening of Chelsea's new Cobham training facilities in 2007, but the Russian's big spending habits look to be over. Photograph: Ian Walton/Getty Images
At Chelsea even frugality costs the earth. Roman Abramovich was some £600m out of pocket before it became indisputable that he would insist on the club living within its means. The owner is not expected to attend the match at Manchester United tomorrow and some suppose he would absent himself entirely from the Premier League scene if there was anyone around still capable of making an attractive bid for Chelsea. This is an Abramovich subdued by experience.
The Russian was once so much a serial attender of games that he might have passed for a groundhopper. Nowadays he keeps his distance. The manager Luiz Felipe Scolari is adamant that Abramovich is "still committed" but it is not an opinion built on prolonged acquaintance with the proprietor since his summer arrival.
"Until now I have only spoken with Roman three or four times," he said, "I think this is normal. I don't know what Roman is thinking about the club, and I don't ask." Scolari also remarked that his post-match duties with the media allow him scant time to chew the fat with Abramovich. "For me," he said, "it makes no difference."
It is not, in truth, any kind of crisis. The club will be an attractive asset whenever the economy next has an irrational upsurge. Abramovich, in addition, has had a break-even target of 2010 and, with turnover leaping by 25% to £190m in the most recent accounts, the business is far from moribund.
Back in 2003, however, he was not dispassionate. The price for buying Chelsea, including the debt he inherited, was £140m. He was far from subdued by that, yet the excitement was his outdoing. Abramovich is not the first new owner to embark proudly on a spree, but the scale of it continues to look dumbfounding. His time at Chelsea has been conducted in the wrong order. Rather than reaching a great conclusion after prudent beginnings, he has followed the reverse course. Sanity has come belatedly to a man who looks faintly chastened.
Football histories will always record the epic fiascos. Juan Sebastian Veron, whose value had dropped by a half in two years at Manchester United, was bought by Chelsea, where he became all but worthless within a couple of years? That was the epitome of folly, but it also tends to divert attention from the persistent illogicality of even routine transactions.
Chelsea, with Wayne Bridge on the books, had no need for another international left-back, but they still bought Asier del Horno from Athletic Bilbao for £8m in 2005. When he was offloaded a year later his price had dropped by 40%, but it felt petty to ponder such matters. The club did not have profit in mind then and it was a landmark for Abramovich's Chelsea this week when the maximum value was realised on Bridge, sold for £12m to Manchester City. The mantle of exorbitance had also changed hands.
City are actually lagging slightly behind Abramovich, although that could be corrected at any moment. He had no sooner arrived than £100m had left the coffers as Chelsea bought Veron, Bridge, Adrian Mutu, Claude Makelele, Damien Duff, Joe Cole, Geremi and Hernan Crespo. The club was hell-bent on glory and if there were trophies to count then the cost could be reckoned later.
This worked in a histrionic fashion once Jose Mourinho was the manager. There were consecutive Premier League titles, but the Portuguese was also a turbulent employee. The definitive breach came not with a hapless defeat, but following a drab draw with Rosenborg that was no impediment to Chelsea's advance in the Champions League.
So boisterous and truculent an employee is only tolerated so long as he succeeds. Pat Nevin, the Chelsea winger of the 1980s, points out that efforts had already been made to curb Mourinho. Avram Grant, who would replace Mourinho as manager, had been named director of football three months before Rosenborg . The Portuguese was also unhappy to have Frank Arnesen encroaching on his territory when the latter was prised away from Tottenham to become Chelsea's director of youth development.
"They tried to wrest some power back from Mourinho," Nevin says of the Stamford Bridge hierarchy. He knows, too, that Chelsea did not have to fear confrontation when they appointed Scolari last summer. "He would be mad to do that," say Nevin. "What happened to the last guy that did it? If someone is seen as a dominant person then once he is gone the club will say that they still want a big character, but with a smaller power base. That's normal and it happens at other clubs."
Financially and emotionally, Abramovich would like to regularise Chelsea's affairs. He himself has literally distanced himself as typified by tomorrow's match. The seething conjecture about which person had been the motivating force behind any specific transfer is over. Whatever else is said, Scolari must have been at ease with the summer signings of Deco and Jose Bosingwa. They were respectively members of the full national team and the Under-21 side when he was manager of Portugal.
The trouble with the influx of common sense at Stamford Bridge is that it does not hold out a convincing promise of success. Scolari underlined the limitations recently when he noted that the then-injured Florent Malouda was the only left-sided player he had for the left flank. He was too shrewd to agree yesterday when asked if Manchester United had a better balanced squad, but said, "They choose their players very well and have a good balance, yes."
It was up to his audience to decide whether a contrast was being made. Only a blinkered diehard, though, would profess himself overjoyed by the options when, for instance, the candidates for the forward line comprise Nicolas Anelka and the sometimes truculent Didier Drogba. Such subjects surely add to Abramovich's consternation. After all the sums expended, it was bemusing to find the midfielder Michael Essien at right-back in the Moscow loss to Manchester United last year.
If Abramovich, in his exasperated moments, despairs of shaping Chelsea satisfactorily, the desire to step back is comprehensible. It is presumed, as well, that he has been hurt by the financial crisis, although the recent estimate of his reduced wealth at £7bn did not inspire outpourings of pity. The main question in his mind must have concern the sense of making further investments in the club when the return, in terms of trophies, has disappeared since 2007.
Alternative strategies have run aground. Youth development, unpredictable at any time, has disappointed at Chelsea. Tom Taiwo, for instance, was one of two youngsters who cost the club £5m in compensation after they had been taken from Leeds United in 2005. This season the midfielder spent a month with Port Vale, who then chose not to extend the loan period.
Chelsea can still perform well and could do so again tomorrow at Old Trafford, but there is nothing relentless about them any more. The Scolari system, where the full-backs alone offer real width, is no longer a surprise to opponents . "I enjoy Scolari's system more than Mourinho's by quite a distance," said Nevin, "but whether it is going to be more productive or successful is seriously open to question."
Nevin sees the difficulty in Chelsea's change of gear. "They wanted to build a world club and a world brand," he said. There's only one way of doing that and that's through success. But if you then ask for a period of normality as well then those two things are mutually exclusive."
The signing of Robinho would have given Chelsea the extra source of speed and flair that is absent from the flanks, but it is understandable that Abramovich would not enter an auction with Manchester City. At the moment circumspection is the key. When the Stamford Bridge club does return to the transfer market, potential sellers will at last believe that there are clear limits to the fee that can be set. Chelsea will no longer pay any price.
Abramovich is putting Chelsea on to a rational footing, but it cannot inspire him or revive the passion that was once so obvious in him. He has a club that is inching towards stability and, conceivably, sellability, but it cannot bring him the joy he once felt when the team was dominant and overjoyed fans sang the Russian song Kalinka in his honour
Post by: Daft Trini on January 14, 2009, 09:11:15 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 14, 2009, 09:40:07 AM
Why wasAvram GrantJose Mourinho replaced with that idiotScholariAvram Grant....? Why?
Ah fix it fuh yuh!
Post by: JDB on January 14, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
He didn't get any credit for taking "Mourinho's team" to a CL final last year but he getting blamed for this Chelsea team.
Anyway I just see that Drogba get dropped for today's game and Scolari say that he gave Drogba a chance but he going with Anelka from here on.
Post by: JDB on January 14, 2009, 09:53:25 AM
but allyuh at least have to see the difference here...
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players (Robinho) away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players (Ronaldo) from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
I was just going through the thread and saw this.
Funny how quick things change. No Robinho for Chelsea and Ronaldo still at United.
Hmmmn
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 14, 2009, 09:57:14 AM
Grant is a real bobolee yes.
He didn't get any credit for taking "Mourinho's team" to a CL final last year but he getting blamed for this Chelsea team.
Anyway I just see that Drogba get dropped for today's game and Scolari say that he gave Drogba a chance but he going with Anelka from here on.
How is he getting blamed for this Chelsea team, JDB?
Post by: dinho on January 14, 2009, 10:24:12 AM
but allyuh at least have to see the difference here...
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players (Robinho) away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players (Ronaldo) from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
I was just going through the thread and saw this.
Funny how quick things change. No Robinho for Chelsea and Ronaldo still at United.
Hmmmn
lol.. outside with that nuh man.
Post by: JDB on January 14, 2009, 10:25:04 AM
He also did better in his year there than Mourinho did in the previous year so I don't see how the Mourinho question still coming up.
Anyway the Chelsea problem is bigger than who the manager is. The people running the club at the top make poor football decisions
Post by: JDB on January 14, 2009, 10:26:20 AM
but allyuh at least have to see the difference here...
A big club prises Real Madrid's best players (Robinho) away from them and makes them struggle to keep hold.
A feeder club struggles to keep their best players (Ronaldo) from being prised away by Real Madrid.
;)
I was just going through the thread and saw this.
Funny how quick things change. No Robinho for Chelsea and Ronaldo still at United.
Hmmmn
lol.. outside with that nuh man.
I twisting the knife this week. No mercy for allyuh Chelsea 4kars.
Post by: dinho on January 14, 2009, 10:42:56 AM
Well maybe I read yuh wrong but the original question was a valid one. Grant had the team running better than Scolari.
He also did better in his year there than Mourinho did in the previous year so I don't see how the Mourinho question still coming up.
Anyway the Chelsea problem is bigger than who the manager is. The people running the club at the top make poor football decisions
Chelsea problem is they trying to play too much like that forkin shit side Arsenal.. A setta pretty small touch but no end product, no steel, no lion belly..
It seems like the winning mentality is being eroded gradually and we lacking the focus and the ability to withstand pressure in fixtures. Also, from the murmurings, it seems like the intensity in training and attention to detail is way below what it was in previous campaigns.. All this has to be laid directly at the feet of the manager..
From appearances it seems to me that Scolari is being too much of a nice guy and being too influencable which is as much a shock to me as his command of the English language. I see he talking after the Man Utd game about changing the set piece marking from man to zone and changing this and that like he panicking.. Come nuh man, we half way through the season, them things need to be ironed out by now. Now is not the time to be experimenting when you supposed to be taking the car into 4th gear.
Scolari need to rein in the ship and lay down the law and fast. I actually like the Drogba decision today because he not showing the heart for the battle. Is a decision like this that need to come about to let the dressing room know that no one is untouchable.
Hopefully the Man Utd loss will wake them up and let them know what time it is.
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 14, 2009, 10:56:16 AM
Well maybe I read yuh wrong but the original question was a valid one. Grant had the team running better than Scolari.
He also did better in his year there than Mourinho did in the previous year so I don't see how the Mourinho question still coming up.
Anyway the Chelsea problem is bigger than who the manager is. The people running the club at the top make poor football decisions
I think you did read me wrong, only because I left my "correction" without comment. Ah chookin' fire, like you. It is my contention that the Chelsea higher-ups (a fraternity that Grant was a member of, and was as equally responsible for Jose's expulsion, IMHO) are responsible for what has been happening to the team the past two seasons. Jose came in and injected a winning mentality in the team and all the Chelsea fans were happy. Sure he didn't take them to a CL final/title in his first two years as head coach, but only the greediest and most impatient of fans would gripe about that. I ain't one of them fans who feel their team has to win everything all at once (unless is Brazil we talkin' 'bout) and I was willing to give Jose some time and even let him go through a dry spell or two to win it all. Yes, Grant took "Mourinho's men" to the final and that is undeniable. He did. Don't think he was right for the team in the long run, I could have been wrong. I really thought that, with all his experience, Big Phil would have been a great replacement, for Grant and maybe even for Jose.....seems I'm definitely wrong on that one so far. Bottom line is, Abramovic/AbramoGrant should have left well enough alone and let Mourinho do his thing.......even if it meant a "losing" season or two. ..............hence my fixin' Forever Trini's question. :beermug:
Post by: giggsy11 on January 14, 2009, 12:43:58 PM
Well maybe I read yuh wrong but the original question was a valid one. Grant had the team running better than Scolari.
He also did better in his year there than Mourinho did in the previous year so I don't see how the Mourinho question still coming up.
Anyway the Chelsea problem is bigger than who the manager is. The people running the club at the top make poor football decisions
Chelsea problem is they trying to play too much like that forkin shit side Arsenal.. A setta pretty small touch but no end product, no steel, no lion belly..
It seems like the winning mentality is being eroded gradually and we lacking the focus and the ability to withstand pressure in fixtures. Also, from the murmurings, it seems like the intensity in training and attention to detail is way below what it was in previous campaigns.. All this has to be laid directly at the feet of the manager..
From appearances it seems to me that Scolari is being too much of a nice guy and being too influencable which is as much a shock to me as his command of the English language. I see he talking after the Man Utd game about changing the set piece marking from man to zone and changing this and that like he panicking.. Come nuh man, we half way through the season, them things need to be ironed out by now. Now is not the time to be experimenting when you supposed to be taking the car into 4th gear.
Scolari need to rein in the ship and lay down the law and fast. I actually like the Drogba decision today because he not showing the heart for the battle. Is a decision like this that need to come about to let the dressing room know that no one is untouchable.
Hopefully the Man Utd loss will wake them up and let them know what time it is.
Chelski's problem is they have no speed, no wingers, one forward and one plan.
Post by: 2cents on January 14, 2009, 02:28:22 PM
Post by: dinho on January 14, 2009, 02:33:16 PM
down 1-0 to Southend, another goal from a set piece! >:(
Post by: JDB on January 14, 2009, 02:35:15 PM
steups...
down 1-0 to Southend, another goal from a set piece! >:(
Zonal marking is a bitch.
Chelsea will probably win this game but it real funny to see them fight up like this.
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 14, 2009, 02:41:57 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on January 14, 2009, 02:54:16 PM
Post by: dinho on January 14, 2009, 02:55:59 PM
Post by: 2cents on January 14, 2009, 02:56:35 PM
Ballack goal right on d half
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 14, 2009, 02:57:29 PM
Post by: elan on January 14, 2009, 03:06:19 PM
steups...
down 1-0 to Southend, another goal from a set piece! >:(
Zonal marking is a bitch.
Chelsea will probably win this game but it real funny to see them fight up like this.
I now understand how Baecelona feel in that CL game last year.
I feel it have men want Scolari fired....is real shyte going on. But we play rel football in the last 5.
Post by: elan on January 14, 2009, 03:35:42 PM
Chelsea to good.....even for themselves.
Post by: dinho on January 14, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
Crick crack...
Monkey break he back, like a piece ah pommerac.
Post by: elan on January 14, 2009, 03:51:30 PM
Post by: elan on January 14, 2009, 04:03:22 PM
Chelsea 4 - Southend 1
Post by: sammy on January 14, 2009, 06:40:50 PM
The ref just give ah offside that would have been 4-1 and is not ah offside.
oho....same thing happen on sunday boy in that game that Man Utd Play against some shit team............
:devil: :devil: :devil:
Post by: kicker on January 17, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
I think this win may have saved Scolari his job (though I don't agree it shoulda been questioned).
Post by: dinho on January 17, 2009, 11:02:36 AM
Post by: acb on January 17, 2009, 11:05:44 AM
That Miroslav S. kid have pace for days!!
could this be the end of Drogba?
Post by: Daft Trini on January 17, 2009, 11:08:55 AM
ah know allyuh haters was clearing allyuh throat, but the fat lady get lock out of stamford bridge. :devil:
Dat was ah finish ;D
Release she for the liverfool game nah :devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 17, 2009, 11:11:23 AM
Amazing character shown by Chelsea in their comeback win against Stoke 2-1
I think this win may have saved Scolari his job (though I don't agree it shoulda been questioned).
I didn't think they had it in them. I thought for sure this was a 3-point setback. Ashley Cole and Alex did a terrible job of defending on that goal they conceded and every ball put in Stoke 18 was being fought for/played/won by a Stoke player only! Defending to their death, if necessary. No creativity in attacking midfield (ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!) and poor finishing up front. And Big Phil start making the "questionable" substitutions that worked out just fine in the end! I always find Lampard is an overrated player, but he has an intangible and unquestionable value to this team. One point wasn't going to be enough today, so, my hat's off to him.
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 17, 2009, 11:18:13 AM
what a finish!!!
That Miroslav S. kid have pace for days!!
could this be the end of Drogba?
Drogba trying to be like T.O., and wants all the attention, wants to be a drama queen. That's fine, but he has to be like T.O. all the way and go out and be the best player on the field in his position and leave every possible effort to win the game for your team on the field. All this BS he want to play, pouting and preening on the sidelines and in the media.....Big Phil has every right to
Post by: acb on January 17, 2009, 11:18:25 AM
(ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!)
I hoping for Essien to come back, so that we don't need to rely on Mikel just yet.
Post by: dinho on January 17, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
(ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!)
I hoping for Essien to come back, so that we don't need to rely on Mikel just yet.
Essien still not going to provide that creativity, but he will provide drive and steel that has been missing..
Deco and Ballack need to start earning their salaries and Chelsea need to get flexible enough to change the game plan to grind out results with some long ball when teams frustrate the 'joga bonita'.
Post by: acb on January 17, 2009, 11:21:04 AM
what a finish!!!
That Miroslav S. kid have pace for days!!
could this be the end of Drogba?
Drogba trying to be like T.O., and wants all the attention, wants to be a drama queen. That's fine, but he has to be like T.O. all the way and go out and be the best player on the field in his position and leave every possible effort to win the game for your team on the field. All this BS he want to play, pouting and preening on the sidelines and in the media.....Big Phil has every right tobenchexclude him.
LOL!! That allegory couldn't be more appropriate .... you talking to a big EAGLES fan.
At least Drogba ain't start crying about his QB, or doing pushups in his driveway.
Post by: acb on January 17, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
(ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!)
I hoping for Essien to come back, so that we don't need to rely on Mikel just yet.
Essien still not going to provide that creativity, but he will provide drive and steel that has been missing..
Deco and Ballack need to start earning their salaries and Chelsea need to get flexible enough to change the game plan to grind out results with some long ball when teams frustrate the 'joga bonita'.
I believe the form that we saw at the beginning of the season wasn't a fluke. It was a confident, inspired team that was executing.
You are right, Essien brings back drive and steel ... but I believe that to be in a very literal sense. The strength and control in his bursts down the middle opens up the play for Deco's deft passes and flicks, and Ballack's technical abilities ... and his strength at the back also gives authority to Cole and Boswinga to patrol the flanks and overlap without much concern at the back.
I believe Mikel can be better utilised off the bench, entering the game in the early second half to sure up the midfield.
For Chelsea to be in this position with J. Cole, Terry or Essien is not that bad as it currently seems. The season is long from over, and at least it seems that will be a three horse race at least.
Even Villa with their flukey win today is keeping pace.
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 17, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
(ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!)
I hoping for Essien to come back, so that we don't need to rely on Mikel just yet.
Essien still not going to provide that creativity, but he will provide drive and steel that has been missing..
Deco and Ballack need to start earning their salaries and Chelsea need to get flexible enough to change the game plan to grind out results with some long ball when teams frustrate the 'joga bonita'.
Trust when I tell you, acb, Mikel can be a very, very creative midfielder and can do a whole lot more for Chelsea than they seem to typecasting him to do. Omar is right about Essien. He is supposed to be a steel sword that can be brandished from defence to midfield, something that Ballack is supposed to be a bit of himself, but he chooses to just be a lazy, laid-back kinda bully on the field. I am guessing that the physical nature of the epl is what might have Deco not playing at HIS best, combined with the fact that Chelsea is also a little too methodical for his style of play to be as effective as it can be.
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 17, 2009, 12:19:54 PM
seems thats how chelsea remeber they playing football and start acting liek some of the highest paid and valued players
Post by: acb on January 17, 2009, 01:38:24 PM
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LONDON (AFP)
Chelsea winger Joe Cole will miss the rest of the season after surgery on a ruptured cruciate knee ligament on Saturday.
Cole suffered the injury in Wednesday's FA Cup third round replay win at Southend and was initially expected to be out for at least eight weeks.
But the England star underwent reconstructive surgery on Saturday and has no chance of recovering before the end of the season.
Cole's absence is another blow for Blues boss Luiz Felipe Scolari, whose squad has been ravaged by injury problems this season.
"I am very sad for Joe to have suffered this injury and I am disappointed to have lost a very important player for me and the club at such a vital moment in the competition," Scolari told Chelsea's website.
"However, I believe that with his spirit, Joe will come back to Chelsea even better than before."
Cole's injury also rules him out of England's friendlies against Spain and Slovakia, as well as their World Cup qualifier against Ukraine at Wembley in April and the June qualifiers with Kazakhstan and Andorra.
Chelsea and England captain John Terry added: "We're all behind Coley to get fit as soon as possible. He's going to be a big miss for us and I keep on saying he's the one who really opens things up in tight moments.
"He did it again on Wednesday against Southend. What a pass he produced for Salomon Kalou's goal.
"We're all gutted for him and we know how much it means to him to be playing.
"No-one will be more hurt at missing games through injury. But one thing we all know is that he'll work just as hard off the pitch to get fit as he does on it."
Post by: kicker on January 17, 2009, 02:26:18 PM
Essien still not going to provide that creativity, but he will provide drive and steel that has been missing..
Deco and Ballack need to start earning their salaries and Chelsea need to get flexible enough to change the game plan to grind out results with some long ball when teams frustrate the 'joga bonita'.
Ballack is bust...He needs to hang it up.
I think Deco has played well- he's the only Chelsea player who has has eyes all around his head, and his passes have been sublime on occasion. When he limped off hurt against Man U, the difference in Chelsea's play was so notable. It was notable again today. A creative midfielder is only as dynamic as the forwards making the runs in front of him- and that is where I think it breaks down. Anelka, while he has hit the net a bunch this season hasn't really looked that sharp, and well we all know the story with DD.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 17, 2009, 04:27:33 PM
Amazing character shown by Chelsea in their comeback win against Stoke 2-1
I think this win may have saved Scolari his job (though I don't agree it shoulda been questioned).
I didn't think they had it in them. I thought for sure this was a 3-point setback. Ashley Cole and Alex did a terrible job of defending on that goal they conceded and every ball put in Stoke 18 was being fought for/played/won by a Stoke player only! Defending to their death, if necessary. No creativity in attacking midfield (ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!) and poor finishing up front. And Big Phil start making the "questionable" substitutions that worked out just fine in the end! I always find Lampard is an overrated player, but he has an intangible and unquestionable value to this team. One point wasn't going to be enough today, so, my hat's off to him.
Congrats dey Chow, yuh still have a team tuh folow in they EPl this season. Ah beggin yuh not tuh give up on dem, dey need all the support dey can get.
Post by: elan on January 17, 2009, 10:55:35 PM
Amazing character shown by Chelsea in their comeback win against Stoke 2-1
I think this win may have saved Scolari his job (though I don't agree it shoulda been questioned).
I didn't think they had it in them. I thought for sure this was a 3-point setback. Ashley Cole and Alex did a terrible job of defending on that goal they conceded and every ball put in Stoke 18 was being fought for/played/won by a Stoke player only! Defending to their death, if necessary. No creativity in attacking midfield (ah STILL waiting fuh Chelsea to be smart and let Mikel handle some of that responsibility!) and poor finishing up front. And Big Phil start making the "questionable" substitutions that worked out just fine in the end! I always find Lampard is an overrated player, but he has an intangible and unquestionable value to this team. One point wasn't going to be enough today, so, my hat's off to him.
Congrats dey Chow, yuh still have a team tuh folow in they EPl this season. Ah beggin yuh not tuh give up on dem, dey need all the support dey can get.
Watch Scolari unleash this team in the home stretch. If you think the start of the season was great, watch the ending
Post by: Bakes on January 18, 2009, 12:58:52 AM
Amazing character shown by Chelsea in their comeback win against Stoke 2-1
I think this win may have saved Scolari his job (though I don't agree it shoulda been questioned).
Well-fought, well-deserved victory... I was ready to celebrate.
Hard luck Joe Cole... Chelsea's most consistent player.
Post by: kev on January 18, 2009, 03:08:53 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article5537222.ece
From The Sunday Times
January 18, 2009
Abramovich wants to sell Chelsea
John Waples, Business Editor
ROMAN Abramovich, the Russian billionaire, has been taking soundings over selling Chelsea football club to Gulf Arabs.
Representatives of the oligarch have travelled to Saudi Arabia and Dubai to elicit interest in the club, Gulf sources have told The Sunday Times.
At least one of the meetings was with members of the Saudi royal family. There has been no evidence so far of a potential buyer.
The Middle East has become the cash cow for British football teams. Sheikh Mansour of Abu Dhabi, the owner of Manchester City, hopes to sign the Brazilian star Kaka from AC Milan in a deal that could cost up to £243m in payments and salary.
Drogba’s omission fuels the feud with Scolari
Ivory Coast striker left out of squad to face Stoke despite being fully fit as Chelsea manager makes his point
One source said: “Abramovich’s team have been out in the Middle East sounding out what interest there is in buying the club.” Chelsea insisted last night that Abramovich was still fully committed to the club on which he has lavished hundreds of millions of pounds. A Chelsea spokesman said it was “total nonsense” that the Russian was willing to sell the club.
He bought Chelsea for about £60m in 2003, taking over £80m in debts, and has since provided at least £500m in loans to buy new players. Sources say that if Abramovich can recoup his money, he might now be ready to sell after five years in which he turned Chelsea into a Champions League side that has twice won the English Premier League.
Chelsea reached their first Champions League final last season and Abramovich watched as they were beaten in a penalty shoot-out by Manchester United in Moscow in May. He was absent from last weekend’s 3-0 defeat by United, which many feel will pave the way for Chelsea’s rivals to win the Premier League for a third successive year.
Yesterday he left his seat at Stamford Bridge with 15 minutes of the game remaining with Chelsea losing 1-0 at home to lowly Stoke. It took two late goals to secure victory.
City sources believe it would cost at least £800m to buy out Abramovich when the “going rate” for a Champions League side is about £500m. Mansour was able to snap up Manchester City for about £200m.
Abramovich’s wealth has fallen sharply in the down-turn. Philip Beresford, who compiles The Sunday Times Rich List, conservatively estimates that Abramovich has lost £3 billion from his £11.7 billion fortune.
City experts question whether he may have a short-term problem with liquidity and needs cash. Some of Chelsea’s superstars are paid £120,000 a week.
Post by: big dawg on January 26, 2009, 06:39:40 AM
Chelsea star charged by police over drink driving
John Mikel Obi has been charged with suspected drink-driving, hours before Chelsea's FA Cup match against Ipswich.
The Nigeria midfielder is in hot water.
The 21-year-old was stopped by police at 5.30am on Saturday, after being seen driving his Range Rover "erratically" near his club's ground in London's Fulham Road.
Later the same day, Chelsea beat Ipswich 3-1 in the fourth round - although Mikel was not part of the squad.
The Nigerian midfielder has since been charged and will appear in court on April 3.
He faces a year's driving ban or a jail term if the offence is deemed exceptionally serious.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=612889&sec=england&cc=3888 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=612889&sec=england&cc=3888)
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Post by: JDB on January 27, 2009, 09:06:17 AM
• Chelsea owner sells £49m worth of shares for £12m
• Suggestions that Abramovich is suffering liquidity problems
Duncan Castles
The Observer (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/), Sunday 25 January 2009
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Roman Abramovich's decision to sell mining shares suggests he might have liquidity problems.
Doubts over Roman Abramovich's financial circumstances have been fuelled by the Chelsea owner's decision to cut his stake in a Russian gold-mining company at a substantial loss. Abramovich has sold a quarter of his 40% stake in London-listed Highland Gold to business partners this month for about £12m. The shares cost Abramovich £49.1m when he bought in 13 months ago.
City experts have expressed surprise that the Russian would sell shares when their price was close to a market low yet expected to recover in the medium term. They argue that the raising of the relatively small sum of £12m suggests that Abramovich may be suffering liquidity problems, with much of his wealth tied up in shares that have fallen sharply in value, property and art.
Abramovich's representatives deny that he has difficulties with liquidity, saying that the transfer of stock to Alexander Abramov and Alexander Frolov was designed to bring the pair's expertise in directing mining companies into Highland Gold. Abramov and Frolov are co-investors in Abramovich's most important stockmarket holding, Evraz, which has suffered a still steeper decline in market value over the past 12 months.
They also insist that a series of cutbacks in Chelsea's expenditure documented by the Observer are unconnected to Abramovich's finances. Instead, they should be seen as a business-like response to the recession, as Chelsea attempt to wean themselves off their owner's substantial support by 2010. According to Chelsea's last published accounts for the year to July 2007 the club were running £83.6m in the red. At that point they also owed Abramovich £578m in interest-free loans, repayable on a year-and-a-half's notice.
The club has been sensitive to discussion of Abramovich's finances. In November, the chief scout Frank Arnesen angered the owner by stating in an interview with a Danish newspaper that: "The credit crisis has meant that Roman has hit the financial brakes, and asked us to cut deep. We have cut down significantly on scouts and other activities." Last week, Chelsea issued a libel action against a national newspaper for alleging that Abramovich was seeking a buyer for the club, and that there has been an attempted clampdown on employees discussing club affairs with the press.
Luiz Felipe Scolari could have Michael Essien back in time for the second leg of his critical Champions League knockout tie with Juventus.
Essien, whom Scolari regards as so important to his squad he has said "I lost five players when I lost Essien", resumed training outdoors last week as part of his rehabilitation from knee surgery. The versatile Ghana midfielder is expected to return to first-team duty in six-to-eight weeks. If he continues his rapid recovery from the anterior cruciate ligament operation he underwent in September, Essien will be available for Chelsea's game in Italy on 10 March.
Essien has played in every defensive and midfield position during his three- and-a-half seasons at Chelsea. His return will allow Scolari more tactical flexibility, while relieving the weight of playing an entire campaign as holding midfielder from the developing John Obi Mikel.
Inter coach Jose Mourinho has admitted he could yet put in bids for Didier Drogba or Jermaine Jenas before the transfer window shuts. Mourinho's Inter are top of Serie A and, while the former Chelsea boss admits he is happy enough with his current squad, he is keeping tabs on the availability of both Drogba and Jenas.
"Jermaine Jenas and Didier Drogba – these are both players that I like. Drogba is a very special player for me, there is no doubt about it. We had a great relationship at Chelsea and he was an important player for me. Will something happen? I don't know. I like players adapted to my style of play, my philosophy of play. If I know them and have a good feeling from the past, it is better."
Post by: Big Magician on January 27, 2009, 09:38:16 AM
Post by: acb on January 27, 2009, 10:12:22 AM
papers get sued for them lies last week.
... and allyuh done know the power of the forum.
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 27, 2009, 10:31:29 AM
allyuh go ahead and speculate that Roman going to sell the club.
papers get sued for them lies last week.
... and allyuh done know the power of the forum.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: acb on January 29, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
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Premier League - FA to investigate Kalou celbration
Eurosport - Thu, 29 Jan 19:29:00 2009
The FA have confirmed they will examine video footage of Chelsea striker Salomon Kalou's 'handcuff' goal celebration against Middlesbrough.
Kalou struck twice, in the 58th and 81st minutes, to lift Chelsea into second place in the Barclays Premier League table and leave Middlesbrough entrenched in the bottom three.
But the striker celebrated both goals by crossing his wrists and was joined in doing so by Ivory Coast team-mate Didier Drogba.
Chelsea swiftly denied there was any political motivation behind Kalou's gesture and insisted he was not showing support for the recently-freed Ivory Coast activist Antoine Assale Tiemoko.
An FA spokesman confirmed: "We are going to look at the relevant footage."
Tiemoko was released from a one-year prison sentence last month after being convicted of 'libelling the prosecutor's office' and being in contempt of court.
He was arrested in December 2007 after the country's daily paper, Le Nouveau Reveil, published his opinion piece on judicial corruption. But Kalou denied he even knows Tiemoko.
"People are always going to think there is something in what you do, but it didn't mean anything," said Kalou.
"I was just happy. I don't even know the guy - it has nothing to do with football. It wasn't for him, I don't know him so I don't know why I should celebrate for him?"
Earlier, a spokesperson for Chelsea said: "Salomon says there was nothing in it. He was just trying out a new celebration and it was a crossing of the arms. He also sometimes puts his hand over his face like a mask."
The FA could decide to ask the player for his reasoning behind the gesture, but with Kalou having already denied it was politically motivated it is unlikely any further action would be taken.
The FA have been quick to clamp down on controversial gestures, with Ipswich's David Norris fined £5,000 last year for making the same gesture in support of former Plymouth team-mate Luke McCormick, who was jailed for seven years and four months after causing the death by dangerous driving of two young brothers.
Everton midfielder Tim Cahill also used a 'handcuff' celebration last March, following his goal against Portsmouth. It was dedicated to his jailed older brother, Sean, who received a six-year sentence for kicking a man during a fight.
FIFA banned players from making any political statements or protests on the pitch in July 2002 after Liverpool stars had worn T-shirts in a show of support for striking dockers.
Kalou's double lifted Chelsea into second in the table and they travel to face third-placed Liverpool on Sunday with the striker convinced that the Reds are in the midst of a rocky patch.
"The Premier League is strong and you can never say it's over," said Kalou. "Every team is going to have bad moments. We have had our bad moment, Liverpool are having theirs now, maybe it will be Manchester United's turn soon.
"We have to be focused, try to win our games and hope the others have their bad moments.
"Liverpool came to Stamford Bridge and ended our record - we have the possibility on Sunday to go there and put the record straight. We know we can do that - I believe in the team.
"People are always saying we don't do well against the big four, but this is the occasion to put things right and get a good result."
TeamTalk / Eurosport
Post by: dinho on February 02, 2009, 01:25:12 PM
Post by: elan on February 02, 2009, 04:12:40 PM
1856: Transfer snap: Chelsea have signed Portuguese winger Ricardo Quaresma on loan from Italian giants Inter Milan until the end of the season. ;D
Mending fences to get Drogba in the summer.
Post by: acb on February 02, 2009, 04:17:54 PM
Mending fences to get Drogba in the summer.
... or trying to pawn off Malouda.
Post by: dinho on February 02, 2009, 04:22:09 PM
Post by: acb on February 02, 2009, 04:57:36 PM
Should be under control with Scolari & Carvalho.
Would link up well with Deco coming back in.
Could have a Robbenesque impact ... or just go back on loan.
But I agree, time for Malouda to ride out ... especially with that New Jersey guido blowout he was rocking yesterday. He definitely had the tan part down.
Post by: kev on February 06, 2009, 08:08:03 AM
And no its not a photoshop job :devil:
(http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/resources/images/791687/?type=display)
story here
http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_life____claims_transsexual/
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2009, 08:21:31 AM
Does this remind you of anybody?
And no its not a photoshop job :devil:
(http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/resources/images/791687/?type=display)
story here
http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_life____claims_transsexual/
nah man that cah be real lol :D
Post by: acb on February 06, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 06, 2009, 10:21:38 AM
funny, but looks like Man U fan photoshop retaliation for news that CRonaldo was found sunbathing under the UV lights used to grow grass on the pitch at Old Trafford.
lol...
nah its a real picture...looks exactly like your skipper...the crybaby
VIVA JOHN TERRY
VIVA JOHN TERRY
COULD HAVE WON THE CUP
BUT HE f**kED IT UP
VIVA JOHN TERRY
Post by: sammy on February 06, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
:rotfl:
Does this remind you of anybody?
And no its not a photoshop job :devil:
(http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/resources/images/791687/?type=display)
story here
http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_life____claims_transsexual/
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on February 07, 2009, 09:03:33 AM
Post by: acb on February 07, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
Hull look like they holding about 8 in this game.
pressure.
Post by: samo on February 07, 2009, 09:18:29 AM
http://thesport-tv.blogspot.com/2009/02/sports-tv-channel-1.html
Post by: giggsy11 on February 07, 2009, 09:19:07 AM
Terry now put down a glaring miss from probably two yards out...2mins gone
Another example of a professional player who can only use one foot!
Post by: acb on February 07, 2009, 09:37:25 AM
bullet in he toetee.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 07, 2009, 09:46:21 AM
oh gyad ... #24 for Hull not making chirren no more.
bullet in he toetee.
What dos crack me up is how the commentators dos beat around the bush when a man get hit in the stones! Ah waitin for the first commentator to show some balls and actually call it!
Post by: giggsy11 on February 07, 2009, 09:47:14 AM
Post by: acb on February 07, 2009, 09:50:35 AM
Shouldve buried that right footer, but good save by the keeper.
Keep Kalou AWAY from the front of the goal. He looking better wide.
Somebody need to make way for Drogba in the 2nd half.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 07, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
Post by: sammy on February 07, 2009, 10:26:50 AM
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 07, 2009, 10:41:50 AM
Post by: sammy on February 07, 2009, 10:54:31 AM
from the lil piece of game i saw, they had a few chances.
Post by: Peong on February 07, 2009, 10:57:58 AM
Bring back Avram!
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 07, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 07, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on February 07, 2009, 11:29:57 AM
The fork's been stuck in us, it's only a matter of time before the knives start slicing. If this is the uninspired, apathetic football that these men want to play, then they should enjoy another trophy-less season. Drogba is just ridiculous now, and, as for Ballack? I doh even know why Chelsea picked up this man. DieHard, Giggsy, Sammy, Forever Trini.....Small Mag....etc.,etc.,.....should I congratulate allyuh now, or some ah allyuh want to rake meh over de coals 'til de end of May?
Chow yuh boi Obi Mikel looks like he regressin. What yuh have tuh say?
Post by: D.H.W on February 07, 2009, 11:46:38 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 07, 2009, 12:00:47 PM
The fork's been stuck in us, it's only a matter of time before the knives start slicing. If this is the uninspired, apathetic football that these men want to play, then they should enjoy another trophy-less season. Drogba is just ridiculous now, and, as for Ballack? I doh even know why Chelsea picked up this man. DieHard, Giggsy, Sammy, Forever Trini.....Small Mag....etc.,etc.,.....should I congratulate allyuh now, or some ah allyuh want to rake meh over de coals 'til de end of May?
Chow yuh boi Obi Mikel looks like he regressin. What yuh have tuh say?
I think Chelsea has stunted his growth. They've pigeonholed him in this "holding midfielder" role and it completely undermines his ability. He needs to be more of an attacking/creative midfielder and they need to get the hell rid of Ballack!! Let John Obi move up front a little more and drop Ballack Back into the defensive role....until Essien come back......THEN get the hell rid of Ballack. His Disciplinary record bothers me, too, even though I see that some of the calls made against him has more to do with his reputation than his play. But he does need to play his physical game a lot smarter. He's still only 21, though. Plenty time for relative development.
Post by: sammy on February 07, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
The fork's been stuck in us, it's only a matter of time before the knives start slicing. If this is the uninspired, apathetic football that these men want to play, then they should enjoy another trophy-less season. Drogba is just ridiculous now, and, as for Ballack? I doh even know why Chelsea picked up this man. DieHard, Giggsy, Sammy, Forever Trini.....Small Mag....etc.,etc.,.....should I congratulate allyuh now, or some ah allyuh want to rake meh over de coals 'til de end of May?
nah nah.........it go kill the fun if u give in and concede now.....
just pretend u still have a chance nah, just for we sake? :angel:
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 07, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
Post by: acb on February 08, 2009, 10:09:02 PM
:violin: :violin:
Post by: elan on February 08, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Post by: dinho on February 08, 2009, 10:35:42 PM
If Chelsea... is ah boat
ah go sail on it... sink or float
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
to the sound of the Mighty Trini...that wasn't gypsy
If Chelsea... is ah boat
ah go sail on it... sink or float
Post by: acb on February 08, 2009, 10:42:11 PM
to the sound of the Mighty Trini...that wasn't gypsy
If Chelsea... is ah boat
ah go sail on it... sink or float
call up AVM Channel 4.
I sure they have that video right next to Curry Tabanca.
Post by: sammy on February 09, 2009, 06:22:21 AM
to the sound of the Mighty Trini...that wasn't gypsy
If Chelsea... is ah boat
ah go sail on it... sink or float
Gypsy song is - captian the ship is sinking
Post by: Bourbon on February 09, 2009, 06:41:22 AM
to the sound of the Mighty Trini...that wasn't gypsy
If Chelsea... is ah boat
ah go sail on it... sink or float
Gypsy song is - captian the ship is sinking
Yeah dahs de song dey lookin for. :devil:
Post by: dinho on February 12, 2009, 03:53:13 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7887030.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7887030.stm)
New temporary Chelsea coach Guus Hiddink has insisted Chelsea are still capable of winning the Premier League.
If leaders Manchester United beat Fulham next Wednesday, Chelsea will be 10 points behind with 13 games left.
"There's a 10-point difference but things can happen in the final stages of the championship," said Hiddink.
The Dutchman, who has taken charge of the Blues until the end of the season, was speaking after he had been shown around the club's training ground.
Winning the title would be a huge achievement. We will go for this title.
Hiddink will watch Chelsea's FA Cup fifth-round tie at Watford from the stands on Saturday before officially taking charge on Monday.
Assistant manager Ray Wilkins will look after the team at Vicarage Road.
Hiddink's first test as a Premier League boss will be the game at in-form Aston Villa, currently third in the table, on 21 February.
The 61-year-old will continue to lead Russia's World Cup qualification campaign at the same time as attempting to revive Chelsea's domestic campaign.
Russia's next qualifying games are against Azerbaijan on 28 March and Liechtenstein on 1 April.
"What happens after May is unclear," said Hiddink, who has a contract with the Russian FA until the end of the 2010 World Cup. "It's difficult to make it work because the Premier League is challenging."
Chelsea captain John Terry thinks Hiddink could be persuaded to stay at the club if his tenure is successful.
"We have six months to turn things around and if we do he will probably get offered the full-time job," said the defender.
"It is down to us to put in the performances and get results for him and then hopefully something can be done in the summer."
Hiddink, who comes in following the shock sacking of Luiz Felipe Scolari, also revealed that he is unlikely to make any big changes to Chelsea's existing backroom staff.
"I'm not in favour of bringing in my group of people," the former Netherlands, South Korea and Australia coach told Chelsea TV.
"I like to adapt to what is required, make an analysis and if something is needed we can do it.
"I'm looking forward to having the co-operation of Ray Wilkins."
Post by: JDB on February 12, 2009, 04:16:52 PM
Winning the title would be a huge achievement. We will go for this title.
OH BOY.
Everybody in trouble.
Let meh know when This Music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuULcVaMTf0&feature=related) start to play. That when I know the improbable comeback start up.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 13, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
Post by: sammy on February 13, 2009, 07:02:47 PM
by RivalsDM
Luiz Felipe Scolari bemoaned a lack of "magic" in the Chelsea team in an interview given just days before he was sacked as manager.
Scolari's eight-month spell in charge at Stamford Bridge came to an end on Monday after a series of poor results had seen the Premier League heavyweights drop to fourth in the table.
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich had installed the 60-year-old as Blues manager in the hope he would bring the entertaining brand of football he employed while in charge of Brazil, with whom he won the 2002 World Cup, and Portugal, who he guided to the final of Euro 2004.
Under Scolari, Chelsea began their season in a free-scoring mode, but the goals soon dried up and the Blues could only manage four goals in the Brazilian's last five games and his side were booed off after Scolari's final game in charge - a drab 0-0 draw with Hull on Saturday.
Scolari gave an interview with France Football magazine days before the Hull game in which he stated that his side were not creative enough to win the title and admitted his frustration at not being able to land his number one transfer target, Robinho, who opted to join Manchester City after the Blues failed to match City's £32.5million bid last summer.
"At Chelsea we don't have the player who can make the difference by himself by producing something magical on the pitch," he said.
"We miss that. I don't know why. In the past, (Arjen) Robben was at Chelsea and he could make the difference. But now there is no one.
"Robinho could have been this player. He is not afraid to dribble, to take a risk. As a Brazilian, I like this.
"My team isn't Brazilian enough. It is a 'bureaucratic' team. That's the style of my players. That's why Robinho would have done a lot of good for the team."
It has been reported that a dressing-room split led to Scolari's departure, but the Brazilian insists he did not have a problem with his players, although he did admit he would have liked to have had a closer relationship with the squad.
"There are egos in the dressing room, but that is normal, isn't it? We all have egos," Scolari said.
"But my relationships with the players are good on the pitch. It is true that they are not the same as the relationships I had with my players in Portugal, but I spent five years there.
"In Brazil (as a club manager) it was also easier. I knew everything about the players. Here, I don't have a family relation with the players. Everything is on the pitch. Outside, there is nothing."
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9213420/Magic-missing-from-Blues---Scolari
Post by: acb on February 14, 2009, 01:46:22 PM
Anelka try to upstage Scotty today.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2009, 02:20:33 PM
Magic missing from Blues - Scolari
by RivalsDM
Luiz Felipe Scolari bemoaned a lack of "magic" in the Chelsea team in an interview given just days before he was sacked as manager.
Scolari's eight-month spell in charge at Stamford Bridge came to an end on Monday after a series of poor results had seen the Premier League heavyweights drop to fourth in the table.
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich had installed the 60-year-old as Blues manager in the hope he would bring the entertaining brand of football he employed while in charge of Brazil, with whom he won the 2002 World Cup, and Portugal, who he guided to the final of Euro 2004.
Under Scolari, Chelsea began their season in a free-scoring mode, but the goals soon dried up and the Blues could only manage four goals in the Brazilian's last five games and his side were booed off after Scolari's final game in charge - a drab 0-0 draw with Hull on Saturday.
Scolari gave an interview with France Football magazine days before the Hull game in which he stated that his side were not creative enough to win the title and admitted his frustration at not being able to land his number one transfer target, Robinho, who opted to join Manchester City after the Blues failed to match City's £32.5million bid last summer.
"At Chelsea we don't have the player who can make the difference by himself by producing something magical on the pitch," he said.
"We miss that. I don't know why. In the past, (Arjen) Robben was at Chelsea and he could make the difference. But now there is no one.
"Robinho could have been this player. He is not afraid to dribble, to take a risk. As a Brazilian, I like this.
"My team isn't Brazilian enough. It is a 'bureaucratic' team. That's the style of my players. That's why Robinho would have done a lot of good for the team."
It has been reported that a dressing-room split led to Scolari's departure, but the Brazilian insists he did not have a problem with his players, although he did admit he would have liked to have had a closer relationship with the squad.
"There are egos in the dressing room, but that is normal, isn't it? We all have egos," Scolari said.
"But my relationships with the players are good on the pitch. It is true that they are not the same as the relationships I had with my players in Portugal, but I spent five years there.
"In Brazil (as a club manager) it was also easier. I knew everything about the players. Here, I don't have a family relation with the players. Everything is on the pitch. Outside, there is nothing."
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9213420/Magic-missing-from-Blues---Scolari
To summarize: Only plodders and unskill labourers; You want me to play the beautiful game with that? I am World Cup winning manager, not magician.
Post by: acb on February 14, 2009, 02:30:12 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14022009/58/premier-league-mourinho-ll-return-chelsea.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14022009/58/premier-league-mourinho-ll-return-chelsea.html)
Quote
Premier League - Mourinho: I'll return to Chelsea
Eurosport - Sat, 14 Feb 18:28:00 2009
Internazionale coach Jose Mourinho believes he will return to Chelsea sometime in the future.
The Portuguese won the Premier League in 2005 and 2006 with the London club, who have put Russia coach Guus Hiddink in charge until the end of the season after sacking Luiz Felipe Scolari.(http://d.yimg.com/i//ng/sp/eurosport/20090214/25/c2835c6bbe3ac1e591f228abe0194aa9.jpg)
"If you ask me if one day I think I will return to Chelsea, I will tell you yes I think so, I think so because we were so happy together," Mourinho said ahead Sunday's derby against AC Milan.
"But when I say one day, I am not saying to you when." Mourinho left Chelsea in September 2007 but said he was still a fan of the club.
"I am not there, I am just a supporter from the outside," he said. "I'm somebody who wishes them good because it's a special club for me, I have special friends there.
"I belong to their story, they belong to my story so I am not enjoying this period where they have had several managers in one year and a few months.
"I hope they find stability and go back to (winning) trophies."
Mourinho was succeeded by Avram Grant, who was then sacked in May 2008.
The Inter coach, whose team have a seven-point lead at the top of Serie A, said he was not surprised to see England midfielder David Beckham doing well during his loan spell at AC Milan from Los Angeles Galaxy.
"I knew in advance all the fears people had about him were not fair," said Mourinho. "I knew he was a top professional, he arrived in great condition with great ambition.
"He has adapted very well, he is playing very well. He is giving different kinds of qualities to his team and I hope he stays for the good of the league."
Reuters
Post by: sammy on February 14, 2009, 07:57:56 PM
The Special One Speaks.[/quote]
Reuters
what u think bout Scholari's comments?
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2009, 08:30:01 PM
Post by: sammy on February 15, 2009, 07:14:59 AM
Jose is kicks oui. Not too long ago he was inferring, if not outright saying that he had no reason to go back to Stamford Bridge (anytime soon). Jose, all I want yuh do is keep Juventus dutty hands off de Scudetto, and keep manu filthy paws off de Champions' League. Dize all I want yuh do right now. End of de season, we could talk all dat talk 'bout comin' back Stamford Bridge.
:rotfl:
i feel after Juve win the Scudetto and MAN UTD win the CL.....u eh go want to see Josie again
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 15, 2009, 05:05:46 PM
Jose is kicks oui. Not too long ago he was inferring, if not outright saying that he had no reason to go back to Stamford Bridge (anytime soon). Jose, all I want yuh do is keep Juventus dutty hands off de Scudetto, and keep manu filthy paws off de Champions' League. Dize all I want yuh do right now. End of de season, we could talk all dat talk 'bout comin' back Stamford Bridge.
:rotfl:
i feel after Juve win the Scudetto and MAN UTD win the CL.....u eh go want to see Josie again
:rotfl: Well....yuh done see wha happ'm to Juve today eh? ah go check yuh back in about a two weeks nuh! ;D
Post by: sammy on February 15, 2009, 07:28:42 PM
Jose is kicks oui. Not too long ago he was inferring, if not outright saying that he had no reason to go back to Stamford Bridge (anytime soon). Jose, all I want yuh do is keep Juventus dutty hands off de Scudetto, and keep manu filthy paws off de Champions' League. Dize all I want yuh do right now. End of de season, we could talk all dat talk 'bout comin' back Stamford Bridge.
:rotfl:
i feel after Juve win the Scudetto and MAN UTD win the CL.....u eh go want to see Josie again
:rotfl: Well....yuh done see wha happ'm to Juve today eh? ah go check yuh back in about a two weeks nuh! ;D
::)
Post by: dinho on February 16, 2009, 11:16:28 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9211910/Hiddink-leads-%27fast-paced%27-first-Chelsea-session (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9211910/Hiddink-leads-%27fast-paced%27-first-Chelsea-session)
LONDON (AP) - Guus Hiddink took charge of his first training session as Chelsea manager on Monday and already appears to be addressing some of the failings that apparently cost Luiz Felipe Scolari his job.
The Dutch coach oversaw what Chelsea called "a fast-paced (and) competitive" practice match, a week after his predecessor was ousted amid reports that senior players including John Terry and Frank Lampard were unhappy at a lack of intensity in training.
As Brazil and then Portugal coach before joining Chelsea in the offseason, Scolari would have been used to his players already being fit for games because of the work they did with their clubs.
Terry and Lampard were widely reported by British papers to think Scolari neglected fitness work of the sort Hiddink is renowned for putting his players through.
"He has cast his eye over training and the game and you can see a little lift in the lads trying to impress him, which always happens when a new manager comes in," Lampard said.
Hiddink was in the stands for Chelsea's 3-1 FA Cup win over Watford on Saturday, which was notable for the pairing of Nicolas Anelka and Didier Drogba in attack for the last 20 minutes.
Scolari said that the pair were incompatible in attack and generally preferred to field Anelka, who is the Premier League's leading scorer with 14 goals.
But Anelka was switched from a starting role out wide to link up with Drogba on Saturday and scored a hat trick as Chelsea rallied from 1-0 down.
The pair could now start Hiddink's first game in charge, at third-place Aston Villa on Saturday.
Victory at Villa Park would lift the Blues back into third place and help ease fears that the club could slip from the Champions League qualification spots.
"A lot of people said we couldn't play together, but we have never really tried to play together," Anelka said after the match.
"To play with Didier up front changed the game, and that's why we scored the goals and won the game."
Post by: Bourbon on February 18, 2009, 02:12:02 PM
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Sir Alex Ferguson claims Chelsea have played right into Manchester United's hands with their sacking of Luiz Felipe Scolari.
Temporary boss Guus Hiddink was installed last week and immediately stated the title race is not over.
However, Ferguson has a different view, he told United Review: "I think they have played into our hands and that the title race now is going to be between ourselves and Liverpool."
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 18, 2009, 02:15:50 PM
Post by: elan on February 18, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
Look more ammo dey fuh allyuh man :rotfl: (http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/latest-sport-news/2009/02/18/fergie-dismisses-chelsea-hopes-84229-22957488/)QuoteSir Alex Ferguson claims Chelsea have played right into Manchester United's hands with their sacking of Luiz Felipe Scolari.
Temporary boss Guus Hiddink was installed last week and immediately stated the title race is not over.
However, Ferguson has a different view, he told United Review: "I think they have played into our hands and that the title race now is going to be between ourselves and Liverpool."
Wrong team to play mind games with. That is frighten talk.
Come on the Blues!!!!!!
Post by: giggsy11 on February 18, 2009, 05:10:08 PM
Look more ammo dey fuh allyuh man :rotfl: (http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/latest-sport-news/2009/02/18/fergie-dismisses-chelsea-hopes-84229-22957488/)QuoteSir Alex Ferguson claims Chelsea have played right into Manchester United's hands with their sacking of Luiz Felipe Scolari.
Temporary boss Guus Hiddink was installed last week and immediately stated the title race is not over.
However, Ferguson has a different view, he told United Review: "I think they have played into our hands and that the title race now is going to be between ourselves and Liverpool."
Wrong team to play mind games with. That is frighten talk.
Come on the Blues!!!!!!
Ooooh Lord Wrigley is pissin his jammies and has resorted to chewing TWO packs of wrigley such is his nervousness about Chelski's pursuit.
No Elan that would be wishful thinking on your part!
Post by: acb on February 18, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Somebody need to get him up to speed on The NY Mets ... and their recent story.
The dentures mightn't be the only thing he choking on at the end of the year.
Post by: berris on February 18, 2009, 05:24:50 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 18, 2009, 05:33:01 PM
Chelsea Forever ....spending big money and cyar win de triple like Man U :devil:
Aye
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 18, 2009, 05:39:31 PM
Post by: acb on February 18, 2009, 06:15:00 PM
3 - 0 manu....F**CK!! >:(
LOL, and as my Asians say "ROR" (Raff Out Roud) ... I was so happy to be watching Milan V Werder & West Indies cricket side by side, but then the West Indies cricket feed conk out, so I figure lemme watch the ManUre game to see how much they losing by. 30 mins in, and Fulham put themselves in a hole, and by the time I find a feed back to Windies, this clown Ryan Hinds give away he wicket.
SOUR my whole evening!!!!
Post by: sammy on February 18, 2009, 06:49:27 PM
Chelsea Forever ....spending big money and cyar win de triple like Man U :devil:
AyeSternSorry, ;D Berris......ent alyuh hadda worry 'bout Jose and Maicon and dem nex' week? doh come on we link startin' no setta ole talk dey jed. (lemmeh check today's scores eh!)
I like how allyuh haters does have three and four "favorite" sides as back up. ;D
Post by: berris on February 19, 2009, 09:57:20 AM
Chelsea Forever ....spending big money and cyar win de triple like Man U :devil:
AyeSternSorry, ;D Berris......ent alyuh hadda worry 'bout Jose and Maicon and dem nex' week? doh come on we link startin' no setta ole talk dey jed. (lemmeh check today's scores eh!)
Ay Mango , de only team I does back is Soca Warriors ,so doh vex wid meh ah just making ah slight observation .Ah rite,ah rite ah go leave out Man U name ..
Chelsea Forever ....spending big money and cyar win de triple :devil: :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2009, 11:32:31 AM
3 - 0 manu....F**CK!! >:(
LOL, and as my Asians say "ROR" (Raff Out Roud) ... I was so happy to be watching Milan V Werder & West Indies cricket side by side, but then the West Indies cricket feed conk out, so I figure lemme watch the ManUre game to see how much they losing by. 30 mins in, and Fulham put themselves in a hole, and by the time I find a feed back to Windies, this clown Ryan Hinds give away he wicket.
SOUR my whole evening!!!!
Doh mind dat, acb, all de haters circling like corbeaux over a dead (Giggsy, Sammy, DieHard, and dong to Berris and mukumsplau and all want to join de flock) but when we buss out de buckshot and ressit on Buffon and dem nex' week and Jose have fergie pissin' bubble gum yuh go see all ah dem scatter like cockroach on de promenade! Ah callin' NAMES nex' week!
Post by: WestCoast on February 21, 2009, 08:34:34 AM
Post by: freakazoid on February 21, 2009, 08:39:21 AM
Post by: samo on February 21, 2009, 09:12:48 AM
Post by: sammy on February 21, 2009, 09:54:27 AM
A winning formation :)
men was saying that when scholari now start too ;)
since money and profit is no object for u guys, maybe u should hire 10 managers in a grop and rotate them every 2 games? ::) :devil:
Post by: WestCoast on February 28, 2009, 10:45:24 AM
1-1 now
aaappppsss
Mr Reliable makes it 2-1
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 28, 2009, 11:09:46 AM
Post by: RedDevils on February 28, 2009, 12:02:09 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2009, 09:31:40 AM
chelski still making it interesting, Pool could end up 3rd now.
COULD?!?! Is could end up third yuh say dey?!......aahps, yuh know what? Yuh right, because they COULD end up in 4th
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2009, 10:00:34 AM
chelski still making it interesting, Pool could end up 3rd now.
COULD?!?! Is could end up third yuh say dey?!......aahps, yuh know what? Yuh right, because they COULD end up in 4th
:rotfl:
man fighting for 2nd and 3rd scraps yes...
fight on bro! ;)
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2009, 10:15:59 AM
chelski still making it interesting, Pool could end up 3rd now.
COULD?!?! Is could end up third yuh say dey?!......aahps, yuh know what? Yuh right, because they COULD end up in 4th
:rotfl:
man fighting for 2nd and 3rd scraps yes...
fight on bro! ;)
:rotfl: Ah walk een to dat one!! :rotfl: Take win,
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2009, 10:59:24 AM
chelski still making it interesting, Pool could end up 3rd now.
COULD?!?! Is could end up third yuh say dey?!......aahps, yuh know what? Yuh right, because they COULD end up in 4th
:rotfl:
man fighting for 2nd and 3rd scraps yes...
fight on bro! ;)
:rotfl: Ah walk een to dat one!! :rotfl: Take win,biSammy, take win. One ah deeze good days yuh go ketch it! ;D
:flamethrower:
Post by: dinho on March 03, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
WHO LET THE DROGS OUT?!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 03, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
WHO LET THE DROGS OUT?!
Eh, Omar, I eh know if yuh get to see the game but yuh boy, Malouda had a good game today. Yuh would/should be proud of him! ;D
Post by: dinho on March 03, 2009, 04:03:10 PM
WHO LET THE DROGS OUT?!
Eh, Omar, I eh know if yuh get to see the game but yuh boy, Malouda had a good game today. Yuh would/should be proud of him! ;D
nah boy, was biting way meh fingers following on live text.
well, what ah go say.. every dog has its day yes.
Post by: sammy on March 03, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
WHO LET THE DROGS OUT?!
Eh, Omar, I eh know if yuh get to see the game but yuh boy, Malouda had a good game today. Yuh would/should be proud of him! ;D
nah boy, was biting way meh fingers following on live text.
well, what ah go say.. every dog has its day yes.
dog or drog? :devil:
wasn't malouda a big player before he came to chelsea? Is it the rigors of the EPL thats kept him back or just the style thats been used in the Chelsea format dosen't suit him?
Post by: SOBRIQUET on March 03, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
WHO LET THE DROGS OUT?!
Eh, Omar, I eh know if yuh get to see the game but yuh boy, Malouda had a good game today. Yuh would/should be proud of him! ;D
nah boy, was biting way meh fingers following on live text.
well, what ah go say.. every dog has its day yes.
dog or drog? :devil:
wasn't malouda a big player before he came to chelsea? Is it the rigors of the EPL thats kept him back or just the style thats been used in the Chelsea format dosen't suit him?
his style is slow and casual. EPL pace has been too much for him in my opinion. Sell he, Ballack and ferriera in the summer please.
Post by: doublet750 on March 04, 2009, 12:53:42 AM
Players to leave
Ballack
Ferrirea
Malouda
Ivanovic-ALex one of these two WILL leave Ivanovic was already lined up for Fiorentina and even if one leaves then ALCIDES will step in as a capable reserve.
I think they should enquire about Quaresma...he has an ability to be direct and still have trickery and showed that today against portsmouth.
BRING IN DAVID VILLA....IF he can be to Chelsea what Torres has been to Pool then imagine what could happen.
Most importantly FIND A COACH that all the palyers will work under in the sort of manner that mourinho FIRST had. probablyeven keep GUus if thy can.
Mancienne to be groomed for the Terry role
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2009, 10:30:39 AM
Im a fan of ballack but i think its better if he goes back to Bayern in teh summer. Ferrieira has done a good service to the club but he too has to leave also..Bruce Buck came out today and said that 3-5 players are leaving for new players to replace them....Ballack problem is that he is supposed to be the same kind of player that LAMPARD is but that not wat chelsea needs....Chelsea needs what every manager has said they are missing. A player who can make it happen on his own. An inventive player...a magician. Lampard is the closest we have to that but we need a real player like ZOLA was. Joe Cole could play that role but injuries have sadly seen him not able to and im not all convinced he can be a person who turns a game around by hisself...same with Kalou.
Players to leave
Ballack
Ferrirea
Malouda
Ivanovic-ALex one of these two WILL leave Ivanovic was already lined up for Fiorentina and even if one leaves then ALCIDES will step in as a capable reserve.
I think they should enquire about Quaresma...he has an ability to be direct and still have trickery and showed that today against portsmouth.
BRING IN DAVID VILLA....IF he can be to Chelsea what Torres has been to Pool then imagine what could happen.
Most importantly FIND A COACH that all the palyers will work under in the sort of manner that mourinho FIRST had. probablyeven keep GUus if thy can.
Mancienne to be groomed for the Terry role
I think this is a kinda tricky situation that Chelsea is in......lookin' at the list again....not really. I agree with all the names you posted there, except Malouda. Day before yesterday I would have agreed with you but yesterday was the best I have seen him play since he's been at the club and I have to wonder if putting the RIGHT coach at the helm is what it would take for him. Yesterday the man was travelling wit de ball, taking on and beatin' men, makin' a nice run or two....ah couldn't believe meh friggin EYES!! (Omarldinho wouldn'ta believe he own either!) :D Malouda have great potential and I am always in favour of alowing a man a season or two to adjust to one of the most physically brutal leagues in football. The Ivanovic-Alex decision is a tough one. The boy hasn't shown much with the chances he's had, but he's young. Alex might be a little slow but he has done fairly well in the absence of Carvalho so far. I don't know if anybody else has noticed it (or if I may just be a little late) but Chelsea does need to start grooming somebody QUICKLY to fill John Terry's position. He is a little too slow for my liking and there are times where that slowness puts the defence at risk. He is a foul waiting to happen in the areas that opponents are actually looking to win free-kicks and that cannot continue. :beermug:
Post by: Filho on March 04, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
Im a fan of ballack but i think its better if he goes back to Bayern in teh summer. Ferrieira has done a good service to the club but he too has to leave also..Bruce Buck came out today and said that 3-5 players are leaving for new players to replace them....Ballack problem is that he is supposed to be the same kind of player that LAMPARD is but that not wat chelsea needs....Chelsea needs what every manager has said they are missing. A player who can make it happen on his own. An inventive player...a magician.
You have that player in Deco. Injury prone season, but looked sharp earlier on...no real adjustment issues to the EPL and more creative than anyone else in the side
Post by: acb on March 07, 2009, 07:14:25 AM
LIVE on FSC.
1-0 so far on classic Drogba.
Post by: dinho on March 07, 2009, 10:01:03 AM
Goals by Drogba and Alex..
Forward ever, backward never.
:beermug:
Post by: acb on March 07, 2009, 11:13:04 AM
Maybe he shouldve gone as a defender ... or wear a batman mask.
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2009, 11:30:20 AM
Post by: elan on March 21, 2009, 11:33:21 AM
>:( >:(
Chelsea like they have a fear of winning or something, just amateur menatlity going on with Chelsea now. Get rid of every man jack and let the reserve play or something. They complain about coaches, now is time to get rid of players. Useless Chelsea is. >:( >:( >:(
Post by: Feliziano on March 21, 2009, 11:36:29 AM
How dis thread quiet so?yuh beat me to it ;D
ah was looking for this thread to come say "ah just passing through to say Hi and how things these days" :devil:
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2009, 12:33:19 PM
Would love to see a footrace between Lennon and Bellamy... Lennon has to be the fastest dude in the EPL.
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 21, 2009, 12:35:17 PM
Post by: freakazoid on March 21, 2009, 02:01:48 PM
Post by: berris on March 21, 2009, 02:44:42 PM
Yes .............. fuh Germany
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2009, 02:52:50 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2009, 03:00:13 PM
Goalie- Paul Robinson
CB-
CB
RB-
LB-
RW-CRonaldo
LW-CRonaldo
MF-Ballack
MF-
F-Berbatov
F-
Post by: dinho on March 21, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
since ballack move to chelsea i really cant remember him doing anything worthy of mention. right now i think he is reallu off d boil. should he be starting infront of obi mikel?
he should be starting......... to earn he fleckin salary!!
he is one man must be does feel shame to colleck he paycheck.
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 23, 2009, 08:36:51 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 23, 2009, 08:45:34 AM
sometimes yuh just gotta love the spurs if only for 90 minutes :rotfl:
:rotfl: Allyuh only lucky to still be in CL contention. Yuh better save yuh "love" and cross yuh damned fingers! ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 23, 2009, 08:52:32 AM
Oh, oh-why yuh have tuh geh Chow started with this thread? Yuh know Obi Mikel is he boy! Ballack is a sack of shite! He dos run like his balls too big and like he too good tuh work up a sweat. He needs to be coming on in the 91st minute or collecting the tugs to wash dem after matches.
Listen, somebody else had raised the point (maybe on another thread, about a week or so ago) that Ballack eh have no right starting in front of Mikel John Obi. I really think Chelsea have simply gotten it all wrong when it comes to utilizing his talents. They Typecasting de boy and pigeonholing him into a holding midfielder and he can really be better utilized than that. The only way Ballack should ever be walkin' out on dat pitch with the rest of that squad is if they holdin' he hand like the rest of them lil' fleckin' children!! De man is a total and utter pure WASTE! Shit, even them lil' chirren have more damned value than he!
Post by: sammy on March 23, 2009, 09:18:49 AM
Oh, oh-why yuh have tuh geh Chow started with this thread? Yuh know Obi Mikel is he boy! Ballack is a sack of shite! He dos run like his balls too big and like he too good tuh work up a sweat. He needs to be coming on in the 91st minute or collecting the tugs to wash dem after matches.
Listen, somebody else had raised the point (maybe on another thread, about a week or so ago) that Ballack eh have no right starting in front of Mikel John Obi. I really think Chelsea have simply gotten it all wrong when it comes to utilizing his talents. They Typecasting de boy and pigeonholing him into a holding midfielder and he can really be better utilized than that. The only way Ballack should ever be walkin' out on dat pitch with the rest of that squad is if they holdin' he hand like the rest of them lil' fleckin' children!! De man is a total and utter pure WASTE! Shit, even them lil' chirren have more damned value than he!
So ballack was shit in the Bayern set up?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 23, 2009, 09:56:39 AM
Oh, oh-why yuh have tuh geh Chow started with this thread? Yuh know Obi Mikel is he boy! Ballack is a sack of shite! He dos run like his balls too big and like he too good tuh work up a sweat. He needs to be coming on in the 91st minute or collecting the tugs to wash dem after matches.
Listen, somebody else had raised the point (maybe on another thread, about a week or so ago) that Ballack eh have no right starting in front of Mikel John Obi. I really think Chelsea have simply gotten it all wrong when it comes to utilizing his talents. They Typecasting de boy and pigeonholing him into a holding midfielder and he can really be better utilized than that. The only way Ballack should ever be walkin' out on dat pitch with the rest of that squad is if they holdin' he hand like the rest of them lil' fleckin' children!! De man is a total and utter pure WASTE! Shit, even them lil' chirren have more damned value than he!
So ballack was shit in the Bayern set up?
Nah, Sammy, he wasn't.....neither was Shevchenko in the AC Milan set up, either. But he is shit in the Chelsea set up, and, for that reason, Chelsea need to sit down, offload him,wipe dey ass and flush, and wash their hands of him. He has had enough time, coming in with his stature, to make a substantial contribution to this team, and he just ain't cuttin' it.
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 24, 2009, 05:59:16 AM
sometimes yuh just gotta love the spurs if only for 90 minutes :rotfl:
:rotfl: Allyuh only lucky to still be in CL contention. Yuh better save yuh "love" and cross yuh damned fingers! ;D
are you serious? yeah we still have liverpool and chelski and manu to deal with but were winning and they are loosing
Post by: dinho on April 18, 2009, 11:59:44 AM
Arsenal fadder!
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2009, 12:09:25 PM
DROGBAAAA!!!
Arsenal fadder!
Arsenal, allyuh go and bade and put on allyuh nice clothes. Allyuh faddah comin' and look fuh allyuh.
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 18, 2009, 12:30:50 PM
just make sure Manu don't get their 12th fa cup
Post by: sammy on April 18, 2009, 01:23:17 PM
the man is a boss...
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
hooray Chelsea beat a patch work arsenal back 5 hooray!
just make sure Manu don't get their 12th fa cup
Except for Nasri, it was the same lineup that just waltzed past Villareal the other day. I'm sure however "patched up" the back 5 was on that day, we didn't hear much or anything about it. Take allyuh cutarse and wave goodbye at allyuh faddah. Say "bah-bye, daddeee!!"
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 18, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
hooray Chelsea beat a patch work arsenal back 5 hooray!
just make sure Manu don't get their 12th fa cup
Except for Nasri, it was the same lineup that just waltzed past Villareal the other day. I'm sure however "patched up" the back 5 was on that day, we didn't hear much or anything about it. Take allyuh cutarse and wave goodbye at allyuh faddah. Say "bah-bye, daddeee!!"
we all know eboue is a liability, a fact villareal never exploited, silvestre was mediocre at best, and gibbs as good as he was at attacking showed naivety in defense
fabianski gifted "dadee" a goal so say thank you yuh ungreatful p.o.s.
arsenal strength is attacking we should have started with nasri and arshavin and keep the pressure up the feidl on the chelsea defense, we were beaten tactically
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2009, 04:59:15 PM
hooray Chelsea beat a patch work arsenal back 5 hooray!
just make sure Manu don't get their 12th fa cup
Except for Nasri, it was the same lineup that just waltzed past Villareal the other day. I'm sure however "patched up" the back 5 was on that day, we didn't hear much or anything about it. Take allyuh cutarse and wave goodbye at allyuh faddah. Say "bah-bye, daddeee!!"
we all know eboue is a liability, a fact villareal never exploited, silvestre was mediocre at best, and gibbs as good as he was at attacking showed naivety in defense
fabianski gifted "dadee" a goal so say thank you yuh ungreatful p.o.s.
arsenal strength is attacking we should have started with nasri and arshavin and keep the pressure up the feidl on the chelsea defense, we were beaten tactically
You would be an "ungrateful" Port Of Spainian, too if you was in my shoes! :rotfl:
All you just put up there was a damned bunch of excuses. Win, or go to fack home.
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 18, 2009, 06:03:15 PM
hooray Chelsea beat a patch work arsenal back 5 hooray!
just make sure Manu don't get their 12th fa cup
Except for Nasri, it was the same lineup that just waltzed past Villareal the other day. I'm sure however "patched up" the back 5 was on that day, we didn't hear much or anything about it. Take allyuh cutarse and wave goodbye at allyuh faddah. Say "bah-bye, daddeee!!"
we all know eboue is a liability, a fact villareal never exploited, silvestre was mediocre at best, and gibbs as good as he was at attacking showed naivety in defense
fabianski gifted "dadee" a goal so say thank you yuh ungreatful p.o.s.
arsenal strength is attacking we should have started with nasri and arshavin and keep the pressure up the feidl on the chelsea defense, we were beaten tactically
You would be an "ungrateful" Port Of Spainian, too if you was in my shoes! :rotfl:
All you just put up there was a damned bunch of excuses. Win, or go to fack home.
yeah just liek when we beat allyuh in the prem see you in a few weeks, pos
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 06:38:42 AM
Also happens to be John Obi Mikel's 22nd birthday.
Buss d net!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2009, 07:30:27 AM
big game today versus Everton.
Also happens to be John Obi Mikel's 22nd birthday.
Buss d net!!
HAPPY BIR'DAY, John Obi'eeeeeeeee!!!!!! dize meh BOY!!! STEUPS!!!!! Hiddink look like a hard man, devoid of sentiment!! Watch 'im tell de yute "Happy birthday, John! You get the day off (sittin' on de bench) today! Ballack, suit up! Bigger steups!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2009, 01:25:57 PM
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 02:01:51 PM
Guus will let them have it at halftime.
Lemme see if Obi getting a sweat.
Post by: elan on April 22, 2009, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2009, 02:04:14 PM
Alyuh eh no kind of supporters. Watching game and posting.
De TV right behind meh and ah have a mirror in fronta meh!!
Post by: elan on April 22, 2009, 02:06:10 PM
Alyuh eh no kind of supporters. Watching game and posting.
De TV right behind meh and ah have a mirror in fronta meh!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
Apparently chased the game for the entire first half, dominated possession and created several chances in the 2nd, but lacked the sharpness in finishing. Gotta work on spacing for set plays. Dominating in the air, but too many times Terry, Alex and Ivanovic kept getting in each others' ways.
Still time for Man U to slip, but can't keep dropping points, especially at home.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 22, 2009, 03:07:48 PM
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2009, 03:14:54 PM
everton will put it on allyuh in the FA finals 8)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
big game today versus Everton.
Also happens to be John Obi Mikel's 22nd birthday.
Buss d net!!
HAPPY BIR'DAY, John Obi'eeeeeeeee!!!!!! dize meh BOY!!! STEUPS!!!!! Hiddink look like a hard man, devoid of sentiment!! Watch 'im tell de yute "Happy birthday, John! You get the day off (sittin' on de bench) today! Ballack, suit up! Bigger steups!!
The boy come on and showin' men just how easy the game is for him and how fluid he is with the ball and how much vision he have. Me eh know what Guus and dem does be thinkin'.
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 03:23:40 PM
chelsea who? :rotfl:
everton will put it on allyuh in the FA finals 8)
how come we not playing allyuh not in the FA Cup Finals?
Ohhhhh ...... I remember - men doh post during the game, or after the game if they get a sound cutarse.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2009, 03:25:26 PM
big game today versus Everton.
Also happens to be John Obi Mikel's 22nd birthday.
Buss d net!!
HAPPY BIR'DAY, John Obi'eeeeeeeee!!!!!! dize meh BOY!!! STEUPS!!!!! Hiddink look like a hard man, devoid of sentiment!! Watch 'im tell de yute "Happy birthday, John! You get the day off (sittin' on de bench) today! Ballack, suit up! Bigger steups!!
The boy come on and showin' men just how easy the game is for him and how fluid he is with the ball and how much vision he have. Me eh know what Guus and dem does be thinkin'.
Forget what Gus thinking, what is Obi Mikel thinking (damn why I was so greedy tuh join this shitty club?) :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 03:26:09 PM
over and out
sounds like the exact words Tevez agent tell OT brass.
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 03:27:27 PM
Forget what Gus thinking, what is Obi Mikel thinking (damn why I was so greedy tuh join this shitty club?) :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Why yuh think Tevez doh want to stay?
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
Forget what Gus thinking, what is Obi Mikel thinking (damn why I was so greedy tuh join this shitty club?) :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Why yuh think Tevez doh want to stay?
how yuh know? dey bull u already a what? :o
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 03:33:38 PM
Forget what Gus thinking, what is Obi Mikel thinking (damn why I was so greedy tuh join this shitty club?) :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Why yuh think Tevez doh want to stay?
how yuh know? dey bull u already a what? :o
It have any man that CRonaldo eh try to bull?
Post by: elan on April 22, 2009, 04:23:43 PM
Can't find them when the team on the field or after a bad game, but look at them now. They not even posting in they thread.
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2009, 04:49:16 PM
Where was all these Man United fans after the shoot over the weekend? Look at them boy. They in they glee.
Can't find them when the team on the field or after a bad game, but look at them now. They not even posting in they thread.
daiz all u could come with? steups... your side just drew and u busy talking bout Utd.
Wham u have no comments on where u guys went wrong? u and acb just obsessed with we and utd?
Read the comments after we FA loss, and u will actually see Utd men posting about how we felt about our team and the game we played.
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2009, 04:52:11 PM
Forget what Gus thinking, what is Obi Mikel thinking (damn why I was so greedy tuh join this shitty club?) :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Why yuh think Tevez doh want to stay?
how yuh know? dey bull u already a what? :o
It have any man that CRonaldo eh try to bull?
ummmm..... boy......i dunno....i think u should get some help cause u seem to be infatuated about CR. Its seems he does be on your mind all of the time. Breads, that not healthy - even if u was a Utd fan.
Take care of your self dude. :-\
Post by: acb on April 22, 2009, 05:56:39 PM
Forget what Gus thinking, what is Obi Mikel thinking (damn why I was so greedy tuh join this shitty club?) :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Why yuh think Tevez doh want to stay?
how yuh know? dey bull u already a what? :o
It have any man that CRonaldo eh try to bull?
ummmm..... boy......i dunno....i think u should get some help cause u seem to be infatuated about CR. Its seems he does be on your mind all of the time. Breads, that not healthy - even if u was a Utd fan.
Take care of your self dude. :-\
allyuh boys like to talk shit and when allyuh run out ah ammo, allyuh does try to bring rationale into the conversation.
steups.
Post by: doublet750 on April 23, 2009, 10:09:58 AM
What we should be worried about is who going to contain Iniesta and Messi on wednesday. I have faith in Ivanovic but i feel we go have to contain them men with HARD BLADE ...we will really see how much we missing Bosingwa and Cole
Chelsea To DO THE DOUBLE...
CL--Beating Arsenal
and FA-Squeezing past Everton in ET
Post by: elan on April 23, 2009, 10:20:44 AM
Where was all these Man United fans after the shoot over the weekend? Look at them boy. They in they glee.
Can't find them when the team on the field or after a bad game, but look at them now. They not even posting in they thread.
daiz all u could come with? steups... your side just drew and u busy talking bout Utd.
Wham u have no comments on where u guys went wrong? u and acb just obsessed with we and utd?
Read the comments after we FA loss, and u will actually see Utd men posting about how we felt about our team and the game we played.
That's what I have to say cause I don't make excuses for Chelsea. We had an okay game, but Everton was smarter. Wwhat nothing to talk about.
YOu all still hide when you get a result you don't like though. :devil:
Post by: sammy on April 23, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
as a player in his position AT HIS AGE...the ONLY other TOP 4 Club he probably would have gotten as much playing time with is ARSENAL...and because of injury and other issues he has stepped in brilliantly...for his age he has minor flaws in his game (shooting..SEOMTIMES tackling and long range passing) but CAN ANYONE SAY THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN IN THE TOp 5-10 CDM for the season in the BPL......he is a fella who will become a Chelsea Legend should he stay and mature at the club....something like a viera for the future.
What we should be worried about is who going to contain Iniesta and Messi on wednesday. I have faith in Ivanovic but i feel we go have to contain them men with HARD BLADE ...we will really see how much we missing Bosingwa and Cole
Chelsea To DO THE DOUBLE...
CL--Beating Arsenal
and FA-Squeezing past Everton in ET
(http://bizzoony.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/what-choo-talkin-bout-willis.jpg)
Post by: sammy on April 23, 2009, 02:41:57 PM
Where was all these Man United fans after the shoot over the weekend? Look at them boy. They in they glee.
Can't find them when the team on the field or after a bad game, but look at them now. They not even posting in they thread.
daiz all u could come with? steups... your side just drew and u busy talking bout Utd.
Wham u have no comments on where u guys went wrong? u and acb just obsessed with we and utd?
Read the comments after we FA loss, and u will actually see Utd men posting about how we felt about our team and the game we played.
That's what I have to say cause I don't make excuses for Chelsea. We had an okay game, but Everton was smarter. Wwhat nothing to talk about.
YOu all still hide when you get a result you don't like though. :devil:
so u deflect atention away from chelsea by talking bout utd? lol
Murhino train yuh well. :D
Post by: WestCoast on April 25, 2009, 08:19:28 AM
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
big save by Cech on the penalty, looking as though he's regained his confidence - no clue what Kalou was thinking when he pull down the man in the box, but I guess he had to find a way to cancel out the goal he score.
Macienne look comfortable on the right - Ivanovic living up to his billing.
Ashely Cole played intelligently and was involved in several buildups.
today's lineup gave several clues about the squad that will play on Tuesday at Nou Camp.
Let's hope they keep the momentum going.
Post by: Small Change on April 25, 2009, 01:06:11 PM
Still the greatest team on earth. Records to prove and they keep doing it over and over over again, even when people still doubt them; even when they lose or draw a game or 2, they come right back at ya!!!!
Sir Alex. The greatest manager the game has ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on April 25, 2009, 02:53:58 PM
Quote
It was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Your strong and manly captain...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/22/JohnTerryPAMartinRickett3.jpg)
(http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/41/terrycries.jpg)
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2514571695_30ac1b0580_m.jpg)
Since Mikel turned us down, we've won two titles, a league cup and European Cup...
I can't say that we've missed him.
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2009, 03:00:15 PM
QuoteIt was either Chelsea or a side full of primadonnas and bullermen.
Your strong and manly captain...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/22/JohnTerryPAMartinRickett3.jpg)
(http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/41/terrycries.jpg)
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Since Mikel turned us down, we've won two titles, a league cup and European Cup...
I can't say that we've missed him.
and world club cup, but whose counting.
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 06:38:05 PM
well for a small side like Chelsea with no history, he already win a League Cup and FA Cup and hold down Young African POY of the Year a couple years in a row ..... so because of Manchester United shallow cheque book they lose out in the race to sign the player, not to mention he gets to play and live in London versus that sleepy backwater in the gloomy midlands ..... so it ok to have sour grapes.
.... and JT captains England .... says alot for Rio I go into hiding when I use drugs Ferdinand, who continues to be denied the Captain's armband by our strong and manly captain
Post by: dinho on May 12, 2009, 05:38:50 PM
Anelka playing like ah beast for the last month.. Tracking back and defending in the Barcelona games.. playing on the wing and not making it a problem.. That burst through the center and bullet against Arsenal was something i eh see since he wearing the blue colors.
Malouda is ah next one. All of ah sudden he looking like a left winger and not a deadweight. where that come from?
I wondering if them fellahs is mercenaries..
Imo, next season the number one priority should be to get rid of Ballack. Man eh do nutten since he come but thief a big salary. I say push Essien further forward and let Obi Mikel groom into the CDM role.. Also, Malouda and Anelka could ride hard for all I care.
I hoping David Villa or Tevez come over to the dark side of the force. :devil:
Post by: Bourbon on May 12, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
One.
Champions league final...Second Place in League....but Avram is a goat.
Eliminated at Champions league Semi....Third Place in League....Guus is a genius.
How come?
Two....
5. Damn. Never realized there were so many undercover Chelsea haters the world over.
My whole facebook front page, internet forums the world over including this one, email, my cell phone and every other social networking tool full of people only too happy to take a jab. I get a text from frigging Egypt!! steups..
Why allyuh feel dat is? :whistling:
Post by: dinho on May 29, 2009, 01:45:45 PM
Posted on: Thu 28 May 2009
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0%2C%2C10268~1675357%2C00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0%2C%2C10268~1675357%2C00.html)
With less than 48 hours to go before kick-off at Wembley and Guus Hiddink's last match in charge, he has penned a message for all Chelsea supporters.
Back in March, just one month after I started working at Chelsea, supporters from the Fans' Forum came to visit us at Cobham.
I can remember the supporters telling me then that although they knew we were trying hard to win the Premier League and the Champions League, we should not underestimate how much the fans wanted to win the FA Cup this year.
We talked about that and so far we have kept our promise by going to the FA Cup Final.
For Chelsea, for the team, it is very important to be there, and also for the fans.
We made the promise come true as much as we can and we hope we can make the next step to get the silverware as well.
A big club like Chelsea needs to win some titles almost every year and everyone knows how the situation has been this season. It was a very good start to the season, the middle it was a little sloppy, and then a rather good end - and it will be perfect to have won a cup.
Make no mistake, the FA Cup is a big title, not only recognised in England but also worldwide.
A cup final is special. It is different from other big league games or semi-finals and when I was a young kid, or after that a professional player, or even when I was beginning as a manager I always had one Saturday in May when I said, hey, this is my afternoon for watching the FA Cup on television.
The whole atmosphere around it is very impressive and the vision of the stadium made a big impact. Most of the Finals were so emotional and so tense.
I have been hearing the players say how much they want to win the FA Cup so I will leave Chelsea with a medal, but I want them to win it for themselves.
We have some players who are at the start of their careers and some who have already a beautiful career, but if every now and then a trophy materialises, it is the cherry on the pie.
The preparations for the game have gone well. We had last week some small problems with some players but they recovered very well at the beginning of the week and I think the team is fully fit.
We have been scoring goals in the last few games and that is important but also important is remembering what has happened this year when Everton is our opponent.
They have shown twice already this season that they can match up with Chelsea so it will be tough. But when we have played tough opponents, it is obvious that the team always reacts to the challenge, even if there is a set-back. We hope we don't have that experience at Wembley but this team is always fighting and that is nice to see.
We have a squad of players who have played many big games which could benefit us. Let's hope so, let's think so.
When you play lots of big games you do get used to it but also we must not underestimate Everton because they will rise to this occasion and they are experienced as well. Some of them have played big tournaments and they are in the Premier League where you gather a lot of experience. But yes, having played many big games, that might be an advantage for Chelsea.
I am told the fans have special big flag for me at Wembley and if so, I will be very pleased because I didn't expect that appreciation. Of course we did rather well in the Premier League from February on and we did well in the Champions League and also in FA Cup, but being here a short period and knowing that people know already what success is in this club, then being appreciated so much is a wonderful experience.
I would like to thank the fans for that, for the support they have given the team all season and for the big support I am sure they will provide on Saturday.
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 30, 2009, 02:52:21 PM
petr cech wasn't looking too solid today but the rest of yuh team pulled it off
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 30, 2009, 07:19:20 PM
congrats
petr cech wasn't looking too solid today but the rest of yuh team pulled it off
Me eh know what shyte you talking (and I'm willing to bet that you don't, either.) Petr Cech did his part throughout the season and he did his part TODAY as well as everybody else, not no "rest" of the team. He didn't concede any goals beyond the one that was unstoppable and that means that whatever very, very few saves Everton forced him to make, he made them. I could see if he conceded some shyte goal or something and put the team under pressure but that was not the case. as is typical of allyuh haters, yuh just want to talk out the side of yuh posterior intake valve. Go and help yuh side look for a coach that want to raise a winning side eh!
Post by: Big Magician on May 30, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
Post by: freakazoid on May 31, 2009, 11:24:37 AM
By Soccernet staff
June 1, 2009
* Comment
Carlo Ancelotti has announced his contract at AC Milan has been terminated by mutual consent, and the Italian club have wasted no time by immediately installing Leonardo as his replacement.
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The news clears the way for the Italian coach to be installed as Guus Hiddink's replacement at Chelsea.
Club vice-president Adriano Galliani confirmed former AC Milan and Brazil playmaker Leonardo, who has been working for the club as technical area activities manager, will be his successor.
Galliani said on Sunday evening: "Leonardo is our new coach and will be presented at the San Siro tomorrow at midday.''
It had been widely expected that Ancelotti would leave the San Siro at the end of the Serie A season. Milan claimed second spot on the final day of the season with a 2-0 win at Fiorentina.
The 49-year-old has been consistently linked with Chelsea, though he refused to confirm he had agreed to take over at Stamford Bridge.
He had another year on his contract but Milan's failure to mount a serious challenge to Inter Milan at the top of Serie A meant he had been under pressure.
He told Sky television: "In agreement with the club, we have decided to bring forward the expiry of my contract. This beautiful adventure at Milan is over.
"I can't say anything else official. I have not made any agreement with any other club.
"I am certainly not staying in Italy. But it is not certain that I am going to London for sure.'' However when he was told "good luck" in English, he replied: "This I won't understand until I arrive."
He was Serie A's longest serving manager having been appointed in 2001 after a spell at Juventus and led the Rossoneri to one Serie A title and two Champions League triumphs.
He had previously served the club with great distinction as a player for over 15 years.
Chelsea are on the lookout for a new permanent coach after sacking Luiz Felipe Scolari in February.
Leonardo, meanwhile, joined Milan from Paris St Germain in 1997 and remained at the San Siro for four seasons before going back to his native Brazil.
He returned to Milan in 2003 before hanging up his boots after making 60 appearances for his country.
Since then he has spent his time working in the media and helping out with various charities.
He was named as part of Milan's technical staff early last year.
Post by: Filho on May 31, 2009, 11:54:31 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 31, 2009, 11:59:18 AM
Post by: palos on May 31, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
Anyways....one of my favourite ballas. Skillful and cerebral fuh days. Started off as a winger who was converted to left wing back for the Brazilian team. Outrageous ability. Moved to midfield with PSG and Milan. Would be interesting to see him on the coaching side.
Good luck Leandro and thanks for everything Carlo! A true Rossineri great!
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 31, 2009, 12:20:56 PM
Ah wonder if Leandro's appointment have a lot to do with trying to keep Kaka?
Anyways....one of my favourite ballas. Skillful and cerebral fuh days. Started off as a winger who was converted to left wing back for the Brazilian team. Outrageous ability. Moved to midfield with PSG and Milan. Would be interesting to see him on the coaching side.
Good luck Leandro and thanks for everything Carlo! A true Rossineri great!
Which is one of the things that makes Brazil so great: their
Post by: injunchile on May 31, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
Post by: kicker on May 31, 2009, 12:37:38 PM
Latapy should play Carlos at right back and give Baptiste his wing position.
Wrong thread... :D
Post by: weary1969 on May 31, 2009, 03:00:54 PM
Latapy should play Carlos at right back and give Baptiste his wing position.
Wrong thread... :D
U LUCKY U EH C
WE BEATING COSTA RICA
Post by: kicker on May 31, 2009, 03:38:04 PM
I always knew Leonardo remained linked to the club after his retirement, but I always saw him as more of a management type fella than as a coach. Cyah judge a book by it's (perceived) cover. He was one of my favorite Brizilian players, had skill for days and was a great dribbler.......interesting to see what he can do with this team.
Yeah Leonardo always gave the appearance that he was more of a front-office guy. I hope this is not a strategic move by the dictatorship at that club to have one of the yes men transfer from the front office to the field, so that Galliani can keep calling the shots from behind the scenes...time will tell. About Leonardo as a player- I felt injuries messed up his potential to have a bigger impact....I also felt like he was competent in multiple places on the pitch without really being great at any one position- just my impression of him.
Ah wonder if Leandro's appointment have a lot to do with trying to keep Kaka?
Anyways....one of my favourite ballas. Skillful and cerebral fuh days. Started off as a winger who was converted to left wing back for the Brazilian team. Outrageous ability. Moved to midfield with PSG and Milan. Would be interesting to see him on the coaching side.
Good luck Leandro and thanks for everything Carlo! A true Rossineri great!
Ah like how yuh keep callin' de man Leandro ;D ...another great Brazilian winger/defender from the 80's...
About Ancellotti, though he had more success in his career at Milan because he was at the club during a time when they were a ridiculous powerhouse, I think he's considered a Roma legend just as much (if not more). I believe that's where most of his career was spent and I think that's the club that many associate with him....I wonder if Roma will try to snag him up....
On a completely separate note...under all that talk about Brazilian skill...enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZxvYy5-ekI
Post by: Big Magician on May 31, 2009, 04:15:12 PM
Ancelotti is Scolari 11
and yes
WE BEATING COSTA RICA
Post by: makaveli on May 31, 2009, 04:30:11 PM
I always knew Leonardo remained linked to the club after his retirement, but I always saw him as more of a management type fella than as a coach. Cyah judge a book by it's (perceived) cover. He was one of my favorite Brizilian players, had skill for days and was a great dribbler.......interesting to see what he can do with this team.
Yeah Leonardo always gave the appearance that he was more of a front-office guy. I hope this is not a strategic move by the dictatorship at that club to have one of the yes men transfer from the front office to the field, so that Galliani can keep calling the shots from behind the scenes...time will tell. About Leonardo as a player- I felt injuries messed up his potential to have a bigger impact....I also felt like he was competent in multiple places on the pitch without really being great at any one position- just my impression of him.Ah wonder if Leandro's appointment have a lot to do with trying to keep Kaka?
Anyways....one of my favourite ballas. Skillful and cerebral fuh days. Started off as a winger who was converted to left wing back for the Brazilian team. Outrageous ability. Moved to midfield with PSG and Milan. Would be interesting to see him on the coaching side.
Good luck Leandro and thanks for everything Carlo! A true Rossineri great!
Ah like how yuh keep callin' de man Leandro ;D ...another great Brazilian winger/defender from the 80's...
About Ancellotti, though he had more success in his career at Milan because he was at the club during a time when they were a ridiculous powerhouse, I think he's considered a Roma legend just as much (if not more). I believe that's where most of his career was spent and I think that's the club that many associate with him....I wonder if Roma will try to snag him up....
On a completely separate note...under all that talk about Brazilian skill...enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZxvYy5-ekI
good stuff
Post by: dinho on May 31, 2009, 04:52:18 PM
anyhow back to the topic at hand.
i eh lying when ah say i kinda skeptical about the ancelotti appointment. Never coached outside of Italy, and uncertain how his style and tactics will adapt to the prem.. I guess is just to wait and see, but i hope it works out..
Personally i wouldve liked to see Chelsea make a play for Zola/Steve Clarke who are doing an excellent job at West Ham.
Post by: nnyman18 on May 31, 2009, 05:11:22 PM
Post by: freakazoid on May 31, 2009, 06:38:35 PM
after watching this clip i have to say the more things change the more they stay the same
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 31, 2009, 08:25:55 PM
Thanks for the clip, Kicker, but ah doh appreciate that we only get a nanosecond glimpse of the free-kick against Argentina, and that it wasn't included in the 11......they shoulda jes' make it TWELVE!
Post by: sweetiepaper on May 31, 2009, 09:28:58 PM
This should be in a post by itself.
Post by: palos on May 31, 2009, 09:43:46 PM
1 - Brazil vs Italy WC 1982
2 - T&T vs Sweden WC 2006
1989 T&T vs USA...I was too NUMB to do anyting. Couldn't cry, couldn't talk, nutting.
Post by: freakazoid on June 01, 2009, 03:58:43 AM
By Soccernet staff
June 1, 2009
* Comment
Chelsea have confirmed the appointment of Carlo Ancelotti as their new manager, just a day after the exit of Guus Hiddink.
Carlo Ancelotti
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Ancelotti's twin Champions League wins make him an outstanding manager.
The Italian succeeds Hiddink, whose short stint at Stamford Bridge ended after Saturday's FA Cup final victory over Everton.
Ancelotti, who has long been linked with the Stamford Bridge post, left AC Milan by mutual consent on Sunday.
A statement on their official website read: ''Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce that Carlo Ancelotti has agreed to become our new manager. He has signed a three year contract and will start on July 1, 2009.
''Carlo was the outstanding candidate for the job. He has proved over a long period his ability to build teams that challenged for, and have been successful in, major domestic and European competitions.
''He also had a highly successful playing career in those competitions and therefore brings unparalleled all round experience to the job.
''We are sure everybody at Chelsea will give him a warm welcome and we are all looking forward to working with him.''
Ancelotti, 50 later this month, twice won the Champions League, in 2003 and 2007, and the Serie A title in 2004 during his eight years in charge at Milan. He has previously coached at Reggiana, Parma and Juventus.
His track record of success dates back to his playing days when he also won two league titles and two European Cups with Milan and he becomes the fourth Chelsea manager in 21 months following Jose Mourinho, Avram Grant, Luiz Felipe Scolari and Hiddink.
Post by: freakazoid on June 01, 2009, 04:29:51 AM
Franck Ribery
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Ribery: wanted by Terry.
Having agreed to leave AC Milan on Sunday night, Ancelotti has been announced as the Blues' new boss, despite rumoured late interest from Real Madrid, and will be interested to hear the thoughts of his new skipper.
Terry believes that the club needs players as well as a manager, and is keen to aim high, asserting that "the likes of Franck Ribery and David Villa are the kind of players we want".
Chelsea ended their two-year trophy drought with their FA Cup success, and Terry wants them to use that success as a springboard to go on and win more trophies:
"We want to attract the best to Chelsea. If we can do that, with successes like the FA Cup and pushing for the Premier League again next season, we're going to get players like Ribery and Villa".
i feel makalele was right about john terry.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 01, 2009, 07:23:04 AM
I only ever cry twice in my life over football
:rotfl: :rotfl: Palos, like me and you is friggin' SIAMESE TWIN boy!!
1 - Brazil vs Italy WC 1982
Remember what HEAVY favourites Brazil were, even coming IN to the WC?! Remember the game they had played against England before the tournament when Eder took a free-kick that hit Ray Wilkins standing in the wall and knock 'im out cold? Ah was still :'( over Bob's death and was looking to Brazil to win this thing to lift meh spirits.......all Brazil needed was a draw.........if only Serginho woulda score one or two of the easy goals he trow-way! >:(
2 - T&T vs Sweden WC 2006
Even though they messed it up, the sound of our National Anthem at a WC created some of the most unexplainable feelings a grown man could ever try to explain. (tears of anger was to follow in Kaiserslautern!)
1989 T&T vs USA...I was too NUMB to do anyting. Couldn't cry, couldn't talk, nutting.
Initially, at the final whistle, that was my same, exact feeling. But when espn wrap up the programming by showing the the contrast between the small American contingent in gleeful exuberance and pan the crowd of so many of my people in heartbroken tears....boy!....if yuh woulda see dat yuh woulda :'( like me, too. I'm SURE of it!
( >:( Leo is a MC boy!!)
Post by: palos on June 01, 2009, 08:21:11 AM
That special. To me the MY best Brazil team I saw. This was my 1st big heartbreak in football.
This should be in a post by itself.
To me...dat is de best football team EVER!
Greater dan Brazil 70
Greater dan Baresi's Milan
Greater dan Barca 2K9
True..they didn't win...but dey have people talkin bout dem to dis day. Few remember Italy in 2006...or Germany in 1990....but EVERYBODY remember's Brazil 1982 and their amazing cast of football magicians...and 2 GOATS! >:(
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 01, 2009, 09:34:46 AM
Chelsea is fast becoming the English version of Real Madrid.
Post by: sammy on June 01, 2009, 10:07:02 AM
3 coaches in one year
Chelsea is fast becoming the English version of Real Madrid.
I know Madrid is u sworn enemy, but no need to put them down so bad... :rotfl:
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 01, 2009, 11:10:12 AM
Post by: Toppa on June 01, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
3 coaches in one year
Chelsea is fast becoming the English version of Real Madrid.
Why yuh doh mind yuh business.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 01, 2009, 11:55:45 AM
3 coaches in one year
Chelsea is fast becoming the English version of Real Madrid.
Why yuh doh mind yuh business.
Just stating facts bredren.
Post by: Toppa on June 01, 2009, 11:58:14 AM
3 coaches in one year
Chelsea is fast becoming the English version of Real Madrid.
Why yuh doh mind yuh business.
Just stating facts bredren.
Sistren
Post by: Fyzoman on June 01, 2009, 12:10:10 PM
I only ever cry twice in my life over football
1 - Brazil vs Italy WC 1982
2 - T&T vs Sweden WC 2006
1989 T&T vs USA...I was too NUMB to do anyting. Couldn't cry, couldn't talk, nutting.
ah hear yuh palos, i have to include de Bahrain game though, as ah big man ah was ah basket case for dat one, i couldn't stop crying nah....about de highlights, give thanks kicker!!!!
it remind why ah so skillfull and how even now at 46 (and slow) ah does be one ah de only meh in sweat, constantly backheeling and dummying any chance ah get, and ha men wondering if ah is ah dreadlocked brazilian ;D
nah dat bring back rel memories.
Post by: Filho on June 01, 2009, 02:44:17 PM
Good fit, if you ask me. He was accustomed to working with an owner who exerted considerable control over player personnel, much like what he will have to face at Chelsea.
yup. Carlo turning out ot be the ultimate yes man.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 01, 2009, 06:16:47 PM
Post by: weary1969 on June 01, 2009, 06:27:52 PM
I only ever cry twice in my life over football
1 - Brazil vs Italy WC 1982
2 - T&T vs Sweden WC 2006
1989 T&T vs USA...I was too NUMB to do anyting. Couldn't cry, couldn't talk, nutting.
Almost cry but I feel Brazil v France was worse in 86. Dat was good prep 4 Nov 19th was never so devasted over a sporting event.
Post by: Big Magician on June 01, 2009, 10:19:14 PM
Post by: Observer on June 03, 2009, 07:19:22 AM
Well said, Zoid, very well said! Yuh doh know what true love is until you have children, and yuh never feel a tabanca like Brazil make we (their fans) feel it in '82.....and again in '86, (and '90) but '82 was the real heart breaker!
Thanks for the clip, Kicker, but ah doh appreciate that we only get a nanosecond glimpse of the free-kick against Argentina, and that it wasn't included in the 11......they shoulda jes' make it TWELVE!
Heart break yes! but memorable football of quality. those teams lost and people still talk about them more than the teams that beat them. quite a few teams fall into that bracket, Holland 74 and 2000, and France 82
Post by: dinho on June 03, 2009, 03:38:25 PM
Carvalho ready to leave Chelsea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8081914.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8081914.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45863000/jpg/_45863957_carvalho226.jpg)
Carvalho is frustrated by his lack of opportunities at Chelsea
Chelsea centre-back Ricardo Carvalho has made it clear he is ready to leave Stamford Bridge this summer in search of first-team football.
The Portugal international, 31, is unhappy that he made only 18 appearances for the Blues last season.
"I have had four extraordinary years at Chelsea until this year, which has not been very good - indeed it was the worst of my career," he said.
"I am available for a club who wishes to have me."
Carvalho joined Chelsea from Porto in July 2004 for a fee of about £20m and has played 174 times for the club, helping them to win two Premier League titles, two League Cups and an FA Cup.
But he was hampered by injuries last season, suffering knee ligament damage and a thigh problem that kept him out for almost two months.
Carvalho admitted "I wasn't in great shape" but insisted it was because he had not played many matches.
Looking to the future, he added: "I am delighted that several clubs are interested in me. But before being approached, an agreement must be found with Chelsea."
Carvalho last played for Chelsea in the 4-4 draw with Liverpool in the Champions League quarter-final second leg on 14 April.
And he appeared to be out of favour under interim Chelsea boss Guus Hiddink, prompting his declaration of intent to move on.
However, Carvalho appeared to leave the door open for reassessment under incoming manger Carlo Ancelotti, who officially takes over on 1 July.
"If there is no transfer, I will be fine at Chelsea," he said.
Post by: acb on July 01, 2009, 04:48:31 PM
Who is Paul Parker?
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Paul Parker enjoyed a distinguished career for club and country. The versatile defender won 19 England caps and played the 1990 World Cup semi-final against West Germany. After spells at Fulham and QPR, Paul joined Manchester United in 1991, where he helped the club claim their first league title for 26 years, and won the Double twice. During six seasons at Old Trafford, he played with legends such as Eric Cantona, Roy Keane and David Beckham.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/paul-parker/article/8736/ (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/paul-parker/article/8736/)
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Kaka deal shows up Chelsea
Tue Jun 09 12:03PM
The £58 million Real Madrid paid for Kaka is a lot of money, but there can be no doubt he is a supreme talent and Real know what they are getting.
It is a massive sum, but not all that surprising in today's world. Milan were simply not in a position to turn that sort of money down.
Although Manchester City fans will say the fee could have been £40m more if Kaka had signed for them, I don't think that was ever going to happen. City were not the right club for him.
You also have to say the deal represents another failure in the transfer market for Chelsea, who have really struggled to make the 'fantasy' signings Roman Abramovich wanted when he bought the club.
While they denied making a formal bid for Kaka, they were certainly interested and it would be naive to think they were not involved in negotiations on some level.
It is hard for them because they just do not have a prestigious enough name to sign the very top players.
They have had five years of success, but that is not enough to build the kind of reputation that Real enjoy, with their countless domestic titles and nine European Cups. A few barren years do not affect them as much because of their glittering history.
I think most players would rather sign for Liverpool than Chelsea, even though they have not won the league for 19 years.
When I signed for Manchester United they had gone 25 years without winning the league but that certainly did not put me off. If anything, it was an incentive.
If a club has a dry spell, the rewards and accolades will be all the greater if you can help them end the drought. Imagine the glory and adulation for the Liverpool squad that finally wins the Premier League.
Kaka can expect something similar if he helps Real return to the top of the pile in Spain.
Many people who saw Real's defending last season might say they should concentrate on strengthening at the back, but what they need more than any individual player is the team spirit and unity that Barcelona have.
It obviously helps to have a midfielder who can rival Xavi and Andres Iniesta for technical ability, but it will count for nothing unless Real find some cohesion, which was sadly lacking last season.
One thing you can say about Kaka is that he is not a prima donna, and seems fairly humble. He will work hard for the team and keep his nose clean. Any club in the world would love to have him.
We all know about Real president Florentino Perez's formula for buying success through 'Galacticos', and he has shown that it can work.
It will certainly add interest to the Spanish league. At the moment, people really want to watch Barcelona, but Kaka's arrival at their big rivals will immediately make Real more attractive and interesting to neutrals, and hopefully it will spice up the Liga title race.
Parker tries to argue that Chelsea's inability to sign Kaka shows them up. If there is any truth to the allegations that Chelsea pursued Kaka, then Chelsea was shown up by a bigger team - Real, and there is no shame in that.
However, things have changed alot since June 9th 2009 and Manchester United have been shown up by Real Madrid in taking away their star player: Cristiano Ronaldo. Manchester City have shown them up by taking away one of their longest running targets - Roque Santa Cruz. Carlos Tevez walked out on them. Franck Ribery has ignored everything they have said to him thus far. Just today alone, another one of their targets, Karim Benzema was snuffed out from under them by Real Madrid.
Here's how Barcelona showed up a Manchester United squad featuring Paul Parker in 94 who admitted that Hristo Stoichkov was cheeky and Romario was arrogant but fast
http://www.youtube.com/v/2A4OcyS2KPM
... and as for all the players would rather sign for Liverpool than Chelsea, even though they have not won the league for 19 years ... the only one on that list is Glenn Johnson (who was ushered out of Chelsea some years ago - and who is grossly overpriced - RE: Robbie Keane saga last year). So far this transfer season, all the players would rather sign for any team BUT Manchester United.
Glory Glory
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 01, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
Interesting article from Paul Parker written on June 9th 2009
Who is Paul Parker?QuotePaul Parker enjoyed a distinguished career for club and country. The versatile defender won 19 England caps and played the 1990 World Cup semi-final against West Germany. After spells at Fulham and QPR, Paul joined Manchester United in 1991, where he helped the club claim their first league title for 26 years, and won the Double twice. During six seasons at Old Trafford, he played with legends such as Eric Cantona, Roy Keane and David Beckham.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/paul-parker/article/8736/ (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/paul-parker/article/8736/)QuoteKaka deal shows up Chelsea
Tue Jun 09 12:03PM
The £58 million Real Madrid paid for Kaka is a lot of money, but there can be no doubt he is a supreme talent and Real know what they are getting.
It is a massive sum, but not all that surprising in today's world. Milan were simply not in a position to turn that sort of money down.
Although Manchester City fans will say the fee could have been £40m more if Kaka had signed for them, I don't think that was ever going to happen. City were not the right club for him.
You also have to say the deal represents another failure in the transfer market for Chelsea, who have really struggled to make the 'fantasy' signings Roman Abramovich wanted when he bought the club.
While they denied making a formal bid for Kaka, they were certainly interested and it would be naive to think they were not involved in negotiations on some level.
It is hard for them because they just do not have a prestigious enough name to sign the very top players.
They have had five years of success, but that is not enough to build the kind of reputation that Real enjoy, with their countless domestic titles and nine European Cups. A few barren years do not affect them as much because of their glittering history.
I think most players would rather sign for Liverpool than Chelsea, even though they have not won the league for 19 years.
When I signed for Manchester United they had gone 25 years without winning the league but that certainly did not put me off. If anything, it was an incentive.
If a club has a dry spell, the rewards and accolades will be all the greater if you can help them end the drought. Imagine the glory and adulation for the Liverpool squad that finally wins the Premier League.
Kaka can expect something similar if he helps Real return to the top of the pile in Spain.
Many people who saw Real's defending last season might say they should concentrate on strengthening at the back, but what they need more than any individual player is the team spirit and unity that Barcelona have.
It obviously helps to have a midfielder who can rival Xavi and Andres Iniesta for technical ability, but it will count for nothing unless Real find some cohesion, which was sadly lacking last season.
One thing you can say about Kaka is that he is not a prima donna, and seems fairly humble. He will work hard for the team and keep his nose clean. Any club in the world would love to have him.
We all know about Real president Florentino Perez's formula for buying success through 'Galacticos', and he has shown that it can work.
It will certainly add interest to the Spanish league. At the moment, people really want to watch Barcelona, but Kaka's arrival at their big rivals will immediately make Real more attractive and interesting to neutrals, and hopefully it will spice up the Liga title race.
Parker tries to argue that Chelsea's inability to sign Kaka shows them up. If there is any truth to the allegations that Chelsea pursued Kaka, then Chelsea was shown up by a bigger team - Real, and there is no shame in that.
However, things have changed alot since June 9th 2009 and Manchester United have been shown up by Real Madrid in taking away their star player: Cristiano Ronaldo. Manchester City have shown them up by taking away one of their longest running targets - Roque Santa Cruz. Carlos Tevez walked out on them. Franck Ribery has ignored everything they have said to him thus far. Just today alone, another one of their targets, Karim Benzema was snuffed out from under them by Real Madrid.
Here's how Barcelona showed up a Manchester United squad featuring Paul Parker in 94 who admitted that Hristo Stoichkov was cheeky and Romario was arrogant but fasthttp://www.youtube.com/v/2A4OcyS2KPM
... and as for all the players would rather sign for Liverpool than Chelsea, even though they have not won the league for 19 years ... the only one on that list is Glenn Johnson (who was ushered out of Chelsea some years ago - and who is grossly overpriced - RE: Robbie Keane saga last year). So far this transfer season, all the players would rather sign for any team BUT Manchester United.
Glory Glory
....and Glenn Johnson, while having some potential, at the time was too much of a liability with all the brainless errors he was making in that back line, so if he feel that by signing for liverfool he was getting back at Chelsea for them having "ushered him out" he need to understand that he was "ushered out" for very good reason. I like this post, acb. MUHAHA FOREVER!!! :devil:
Post by: SOBRIQUET on July 06, 2009, 05:05:58 AM
Chelsea agree Zhirkov deal
Chelsea have signed Russian international Yuri Zhirkov from CSKA Moscow for a reported £18m fee.
The 25-year-old left-back, who has played 28 times for Russia, came to prominence during Euro 2008 when the national side reached the semi-finals.
Zhirkov, who can also play in midfield, has joined on a four-year deal.
New Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti confirmed the signing at first official news conference saying: "Zhirkov is naturally on the left."
He added: "I think he can do all the work and can play in defence and in between."
The Russian utility player is Chelsea's third signing of the summer, following the arrivals of goalkeeper Ross Turnbull and striker Daniel Sturridge.
During his time with CSKA Moscow, Zhirkov helped the Russian club win the Uefa Cup, scoring the second goal in the 3-1 win over Sporting Lisbon.
Zhirkov flew to London onday and underwent a medical before completing his transfer.
Post by: acb on July 18, 2009, 01:16:41 PM
http://www.atdhe.net/8058/watch-seattle-sounders-vs-chelsea (http://www.atdhe.net/8058/watch-seattle-sounders-vs-chelsea)
preseason versus Seattle Sounders
Deco playing holding mid.
JT starting at the back.
Sturridge upfront.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 18, 2009, 01:28:58 PM
Post by: acb on July 18, 2009, 01:29:16 PM
Sturridge 12 mins.
good goal on debut beating Keller on the far post
Post by: Babalawo on July 18, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 18, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
drojba not playing?bench
Post by: acb on July 18, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
drojba not playing?
right now Drogba and Zamora in the same boat - surplus requirements. lol.
Deco supposed to be playing Def. Mid - but Ancelotti lie - Deco pulling all the strings in the midfield and still have one helluva touch.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 18, 2009, 01:34:47 PM
drojba not playing?
right now Drogba and Zamora in the same boat - surplus requirements. lol.
Deco supposed to be playing Def. Mid - but Ancelotti lie - Deco pulling all the strings in the midfield and still have one helluva touch.
yuh jokin right?
Post by: acb on July 18, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
drojba not playing?
right now Drogba and Zamora in the same boat - surplus requirements. lol.
Deco supposed to be playing Def. Mid - but Ancelotti lie - Deco pulling all the strings in the midfield and still have one helluva touch.
yuh jokin right?
ah know yuh wouldn't take dat basket. lol.
Post by: acb on July 18, 2009, 01:50:29 PM
Lampard (35 mins)
Sturridge with the pass to Anelka, pull back to Lampard. buried.
Post by: elan on July 18, 2009, 01:52:39 PM
Post by: elan on July 18, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
Post by: acb on July 19, 2009, 12:21:53 AM
Sheva back in Blue.
more like blonde! wtf?
.... and how about Pizzaro back, and not staying at Bremen?
Post by: elan on July 19, 2009, 08:22:19 AM
Sheva back in Blue.
more like blonde! wtf?
.... and how about Pizzaro back, and not staying at Bremen?
:rotfl: They kept calling this blonde guy and I was confused until they showed him up close :rotfl:
Everyone wants to win Silverware this year so they know they have to play in Blue (Real Blue, not that Sky Blue).
Post by: acb on July 21, 2009, 03:39:27 PM
11pm tonight
Possible Link:
http://www.atdhe.net/8165/watch-chelsea-vs-inter-milan (http://www.atdhe.net/8165/watch-chelsea-vs-inter-milan)
Post by: acb on July 21, 2009, 09:26:40 PM
Chelsea 1 - Inter 0
Drogba 10 mins.
Easy to see why The Special One wanted Drogba and Lampard at Inter with him
Post by: injunchile on July 22, 2009, 11:21:48 AM
Post by: acb on July 22, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
Chelsea 2vs Inter 0. Did you see that brand of football- the one touch running into space and the options to pass to players and when it got tight over to the wings. What a display.
Carlo want to try a new diamond formation up front. He try a thing with one striker and it work - then he try a thing with two strikers and it work.
Deco was looking in ominous form
Anelka was just outsprinting and burning men
Drogba was toying with defenders
Lampard and Obi Mikel take no prisoners
Ivanovic, Terry, Carvalho, Alex, A Cole show how deep Chelsea back four could run ... Bosingwa sit out.
good to see youths like Di Santo, Sturridge and Hutchinson holding it down in the middle.
beat a Champions League side 2-0 in a warmup when other big EPL sides struggling in the far east and south africa
Post by: dinho on July 31, 2009, 09:26:43 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8178248.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8178248.stm)
Mutu rebuilt his career in Italy after being sacked by Chelsea
Adrian Mutu must pay Chelsea £14.65m after losing his appeal against a Fifa ruling for a breach of contract.
The striker, who cost the Blues £15m in 2003, was sacked a year later after he tested positive for cocaine and given a seven-month worldwide football ban.
Fifa issued the fine last year but Mutu described it as "inhumane and unjust" and outlined his intention to appeal.
However, the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) has ruled against the 30-year-old, who now plays for Fiorentina.
"The Cas panel concluded that the appeal brought by the player was to be dismissed and the measure of damages, as awarded by Fifa's Dispute Resolution Chamber (DRC), was to be confirmed," said a Cas statement.
"Adrian Mutu must therefore pay 17,173,990 euros to Chelsea FC."
The fine, based on lost earnings, was calculated on the length of time Mutu's contract had left to run, and was the highest ever handed down by Fifa.
After being sacked by Chelsea and serving his ban, the Romanian joined Juventus in January 2005, and at the end of the following season he moved to his current side, Fiorentina.
When Fifa announced its verdict, Chelsea welcomed it, calling it "a very significant decision for football".
The Chelsea statement continued: "Not only did the Dispute Resolution Chamber make us a very significant monetary award, it also recognised the damaging effect incidents involving drugs have on football and the responsibility we all have in this area."
The latest ruling is third time that Cas has been involved in the case.
"In 2005, Cas confirmed the decision of the Football Association Premier League Appeals Committee finding that, because of a positive doping test, Mutu had committed a breach of the employment contract without just cause," added the Cas statement.
"In 2007, Cas set aside a first decision by the DRC denying jurisdiction and referred the matter back to Fifa to determine and impose the appropriate sporting sanction and/or order for compensation arising out of the dispute."
Post by: Observer on July 31, 2009, 10:28:43 AM
Post by: injunchile on July 31, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Post by: Marcos on July 31, 2009, 01:18:01 PM
Chelsea 2vs Inter 0. Did you see that brand of football- the one touch running into space and the options to pass to players and when it got tight over to the wings. What a display.
Carlo want to try a new diamond formation up front. He try a thing with one striker and it work - then he try a thing with two strikers and it work.
Deco was looking in ominous form
Anelka was just outsprinting and burning men
Drogba was toying with defenders
Lampard and Obi Mikel take no prisoners
Ivanovic, Terry, Carvalho, Alex, A Cole show how deep Chelsea back four could run ... Bosingwa sit out.
good to see youths like Di Santo, Sturridge and Hutchinson holding it down in the middle.
beat a Champions League side 2-0 in a warmup when other big EPL sides struggling in the far east and south africa
Preseason really doesn't mean much esp when the levels of fitness are so different
Post by: Observer on July 31, 2009, 05:30:43 PM
Big coach knows how to handle big players. Man City would be hard to manage.
Tell that to Big Phil & Mourinho ;D ;D
Post by: acb on July 31, 2009, 07:53:55 PM
The Blues could take that extra $25M and increase their raid for Ribery in January.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 29, 2009, 09:34:15 PM
Post by: big dawg on September 12, 2009, 10:09:23 AM
were top of the table. as expected ;D
Post by: dinho on September 12, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 12, 2009, 10:17:24 AM
2-1 Chelsea-Stoke..
were top of the table. as expected ;D
nice comeback from d blues. we have a habit of winnin games in extra time boy :-\
Post by: kicker on September 12, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 12, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
Interested to see Chelsea play against somebody good....
:rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on September 12, 2009, 02:31:33 PM
Interested to see Chelsea play against somebody good....
I waitin to see how they make out to. Has any team gotten a softer sched to start a season? Roman grease some palms or something?
Post by: giggsy11 on September 12, 2009, 03:03:54 PM
Updated: September 12, 2009, 10:26 AM EDT 13 comments
FIFA have told Chelsea they cannot recall any players currently away from the club on season-long loans under the terms of their transfer ban.
It is another body blow for the English club, who were banned from signing any new players during the next two transfer windows when FIFA found them guilty of inducing teenager Gael Kakuta to breach his contract with Lens two years ago.
Although the Blues intend to appeal against the punishment, coach Carlo Ancelotti was hoping to minimise the damage by recalling England Under-21 defender Michael Mancienne from Wolves, forward Scott Sinclair from Wigan and Argentinian striker Franco di Santo from Blackburn.
Di Santo can return to Stamford Bridge, as his agreement was only for half the season. But Sinclair's was for the full season and in Mancienne's case, FIFA will have to rule on whether an "emergency release clause" can be applied.
"If it's a season-long loan, it cannot be terminated in order to bring players back," said a FIFA spokesman.
The club expect to hear from the sport's world governing body in the next 10 days with their full reasoning behind the transfer ban.
The Blues then have 21 days to respond. Should their appeal fail, and further injuries occur in the next few months, they could be left short of players, particularly with the expected loss of Didier Drogba, Michael Essien, John Obi Mikel and Salomon Kalou to the African Nations Cup in January.
Ancelotti is hoping that by the turn of the year he will have both Paulo Ferreira and Joe Cole, currently sidelined with knee injuries, back in action.
"We have very good players and Joe Cole, a very important player for us, will be ready by then," said Ancelotti.
"We didn't think we would bring any new players in during January, even before this (ban) happened."
Post by: Blue on September 12, 2009, 03:27:09 PM
Interested to see Chelsea play against somebody good....
Dont get tie up...this year's Chelsea team is the best team we've had since we last won the title. They system Ancelotti has them playin is awesome. And IMO, the system suits Chelsea so well that, with the exception of Deco and Carvalho, they have arguably the best player in the Premiership in each starting position.
Chelsea - Man U - Nov 8th - it will be a blowout. :beermug:
Post by: kicker on September 12, 2009, 03:33:49 PM
Interested to see Chelsea play against somebody good....
Dont get tie up...this year's Chelsea team is the best team we've had since we last won the title. They system Ancelotti has them playin is awesome. And IMO, the system suits Chelsea so well that, with the exception of Deco and Carvalho, they have arguably the best player in the Premiership in each starting position.
Chelsea - Man U - Nov 8th - it will be a blowout. :beermug:
Just curious as to how they will look against some quality opposition...
Post by: MarylandTrini on September 12, 2009, 03:40:37 PM
LONDON (AFP) – Croatia striker Ivan Klasnic has accused England captain John Terry of punching him in the kidneys during Wednesday's World Cup qualifier.
Terry claimed Klasnic spat at him during the closing stages of England's 5-1 win at Wembley and the Croatian has responded with an allegation of his own.
Klasnic had a double kidney transplant in 2007 and the forward, currently on loan at Bolton from Nantes, feels Terry was deliberately trying to cause damage to that area.
"He hit me with a fist exactly in the place where I've been operated," he told The Sun.
"I was lucky to be wearing a protective belt. He is the first player who has tried to hit me with purpose in the kidney. He insulted me first then hit me.
"And now he has accused me of spitting at him? I didn't do it.
"We spoke after the final whistle and I thought we sorted everything out, but obviously not so."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090911/sp_soccer_afp/fblwc2010eurengcroterryklasnic_20090911112113
Post by: Blue on September 12, 2009, 03:54:39 PM
Interested to see Chelsea play against somebody good....
Dont get tie up...this year's Chelsea team is the best team we've had since we last won the title. They system Ancelotti has them playin is awesome. And IMO, the system suits Chelsea so well that, with the exception of Deco and Carvalho, they have arguably the best player in the Premiership in each starting position.
Chelsea - Man U - Nov 8th - it will be a blowout. :beermug:
Just curious as to how they will look against some quality opposition...
We steppin it up dis week...Tuesday we bussin up Porto, den Spurs on d weekend :beermug:
Post by: Bakes on September 12, 2009, 04:06:31 PM
2-1 Chelsea-Stoke..
were top of the table. as expected ;D
nice comeback from d blues. we have a habit of winnin games in extra time boy :-\
Stoke do some mess... yuh can't sit back and concede possession to a quality side like Chelsea and not expect to pay for it eventually. Great turn and one time strike by Drogba... nice unselfishness by Anelka to set up the winning tally.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 15, 2009, 11:22:08 AM
Post by: Blue on September 20, 2009, 11:00:04 AM
Interested to see Chelsea play against somebody good....
watching?
4-3 might be exciting for the fans, but say what....3-0 and we didnt even hit top gear. Champions :beermug:
We might struggle without Drogba though.
At leat Joe Cole and Zhirkov are back 2 facilitate a decent 4-5-1, cuz Kalou is a shite replacement.
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 20, 2009, 11:01:46 AM
3-0 in dey pweffen!
Post by: acb on September 20, 2009, 11:30:41 AM
big team, is big team :beermug:
3-0 in dey pweffen!
:beermug:
big team could win on dey own accord - dey doh need refs to give them extra time on top of the extra time.
Ref in Chelsea game could justify 8 mins of ET - afterall, he indicated and played the 8 mins.
Ref in Man U game cannot justify the 4 mins of ET that he allow to run to 6/7.
Interesting next couple days in EPL/ FA offices.
I hope it have no English Refs in the World Cup.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 20, 2009, 11:37:57 AM
big team, is big team :beermug:
3-0 in dey pweffen!
:beermug:
big team could win on dey own accord - dey doh need refs to give them extra time on top of the extra time.
Ref in Chelsea game could justify 8 mins of ET - afterall, he indicated and played the 8 mins.
Ref in Man U game cannot justify the 4 mins of ET that he allow to run to 6/7.
Interesting next couple days in EPL/ FA offices.
I hope it have no English Refs in the World Cup.
I really wish they would just improve their quality!! Howard Webb, who is so regarded by many (not me) to be the best referee in the epl, I think had a shady game today again. He missed some obvious calls against both teams, the most obvious one being the hand ball against Spurs that wasn't called.
Post by: acb on September 20, 2009, 12:22:23 PM
He missed some obvious calls against both teams, the most obvious one being the hand ball against Spurs that wasn't called.
Chow, check this. There were some very marginal calls - especially in the Chelsea penalty box, that had it been called as a penalty - not even the most biased of supporters could have argued against it.
But was that handball a make-up call, and if so, it would be ridiculous.
The thing is, the call was made. A corner was given - so the referee had to admit to himself that there was a deflection by the Spurs man.
If the referee is saying that it was a deflection but not a handball - he is plain lying.
If the referee says that it was an inadvertant handball, that is also pure BS, because the defender purposefully put him hand up in the air to strike the ball.
The referee cannot pardon himself in this situation.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 20, 2009, 01:22:37 PM
He missed some obvious calls against both teams, the most obvious one being the hand ball against Spurs that wasn't called.
Chow, check this. There were some very marginal calls - especially in the Chelsea penalty box, that had it been called as a penalty - not even the most biased of supporters could have argued against it.
But was that handball a make-up call, and if so, it would be ridiculous.
The thing is, the call was made. A corner was given - so the referee had to admit to himself that there was a deflection by the Spurs man.
If the referee is saying that it was a deflection but not a handball - he is plain lying.
If the referee says that it was an inadvertant handball, that is also pure BS, because the defender purposefully put him hand up in the air to strike the ball.
The referee cannot pardon himself in this situation.
acb jed, even the commentators were aghast in asking how in the world he could have possibly missed that call. The non-call on Keane's attempt at winning a penalty, I felt Keane himself made a mess of that. Yes there was contact, but football IS a contact sport (as the commentators had quite rightly pointed out themselves at some point during the broadcast) but Keane make a whole full step and then decide to lose his balance.......he would have been better off going down immediately upon contact and I would not have faulted Webb......but how in the world he didn't give jermaine defoe a yellow card following his combined grab-by-the-neck take down of Michael Essien and crunching two-footed dive-in tackle on Drogba is beyond me.
Post by: Bakes on September 20, 2009, 01:41:22 PM
He missed some obvious calls against both teams, the most obvious one being the hand ball against Spurs that wasn't called.
Chow, check this. There were some very marginal calls - especially in the Chelsea penalty box, that had it been called as a penalty - not even the most biased of supporters could have argued against it.
But was that handball a make-up call, and if so, it would be ridiculous.
The thing is, the call was made. A corner was given - so the referee had to admit to himself that there was a deflection by the Spurs man.
If the referee is saying that it was a deflection but not a handball - he is plain lying.
If the referee says that it was an inadvertant handball, that is also pure BS, because the defender purposefully put him hand up in the air to strike the ball.
The referee cannot pardon himself in this situation.
That was a blown call... Assou-Koto intentionally extended his hand upwards and over his head... not sure what he was thinking to be honest.
That said, Webb missed a clear penalty when Carvalho tripped Keane from behind and he went down negating a scoring opportunity.
Post by: acb on September 20, 2009, 02:21:14 PM
how in the world he didn't give jermaine defoe a yellow card following his combined grab-by-the-neck take down of Michael Essien and crunching two-footed dive-in tackle on Drogba is beyond me.
If the ref said he didn't see it, does the FA then intervene during the week - a la Adebayor, and slap Defoe with a suspension?
That was a blown call... Assou-Koto intentionally extended his hand upwards and over his head... not sure what he was thinking to be honest.
That said, Webb missed a clear penalty when Carvalho tripped Keane from behind and he went down negating a scoring opportunity.
I was waiting on the whistle. Very surprised he didn't call that.
A few more like that, and I wouldn't be surprised if you start hearing echoes similar to those at ManU, saying that visiting teams can't get PKs at Stamford Bridge.
The things is, not even Chelsea can get a PK awarded at home.
Post by: Bakes on September 20, 2009, 02:29:27 PM
how in the world he didn't give jermaine defoe a yellow card following his combined grab-by-the-neck take down of Michael Essien and crunching two-footed dive-in tackle on Drogba is beyond me.
If the ref said he didn't see it, does the FA then intervene during the week - a la Adebayor, and slap Defoe with a suspension?That was a blown call... Assou-Koto intentionally extended his hand upwards and over his head... not sure what he was thinking to be honest.
That said, Webb missed a clear penalty when Carvalho tripped Keane from behind and he went down negating a scoring opportunity.
I was waiting on the whistle. Very surprised he didn't call that.
A few more like that, and I wouldn't be surprised if you start hearing echoes similar to those at ManU, saying that visiting teams can't get PKs at Stamford Bridge.
The things is, not even Chelsea can get a PK awarded at home.
Keane get penalized for being too honest in that instance.
On Defoe, the merits of the claim aside... FA would only step in if there's a case of "violent conduct" would be my guess... not just a common foul... or fowl for the ManU fans scoring at home.
Post by: elan on September 20, 2009, 04:15:27 PM
I don't know. It's really iffy, need to watch that a few more times.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 20, 2009, 10:52:05 PM
I am doubting that's a Pk, but a the same time I am not convinced that it wasn't. Fat I sw there was little to no contact, plus would he have had time to shoot the ball?
I don't know. It's really iffy, need to watch that a few more times.
To me, here is where you see so often that there is no honour in this game any more (was there ever any?) Contact does not automatically constitute a foul. Yes, Carvalho did make "contact" with Keane, but clearly he didn't "trip" him because Keane was more than able to stay on his feet, was he not? Keane then thought to himself "wait nuh, dis man now make contact wit meh....I in de box...lemme go dong now and geh a penalty" but it was too late. If he woulda made a predetermination, like so many players do nowadays, that he was going to play for and play into the anticipated contact (stretch out a leg, etc. allyuh know wha ah talkin' bout. Like what rooney do against Arsenal and Eduardo do against Celtic) and gone down immediately, he woulda get de call, no doubt and Webb woulda be correct in giving it. But, as the commentators said, and some have alluded to here, he was too...."honest." He wasn't necessarily playing for the contact nor was his brain working fast enough. For that reason, I think Webb got that call right.
Post by: Bakes on September 20, 2009, 11:26:28 PM
To me, here is where you see so often that there is no honour in this game any more (was there ever any?) Contact does not automatically constitute a foul. Yes, Carvalho did make "contact" with Keane, but clearly he didn't "trip" him because Keane was more than able to stay on his feet, was he not? Keane then thought to himself "wait nuh, dis man now make contact wit meh....I in de box...lemme go dong now and geh a penalty" but it was too late. If he woulda made a predetermination, like so many players do nowadays, that he was going to play for and play into the anticipated contact (stretch out a leg, etc. allyuh know wha ah talkin' bout. Like what rooney do against Arsenal and Eduardo do against Celtic) and gone down immediately, he woulda get de call, no doubt and Webb woulda be correct in giving it. But, as the commentators said, and some have alluded to here, he was too...."honest." He wasn't necessarily playing for the contact nor was his brain working fast enough. For that reason, I think Webb got that call right.
De real surprise woulda be if yuh did drop yuh fanboy-ism and say it was a missed penalty. Watch the replay again (with objective eyes this time) and yuh'll see Carvalho clip Keane's right leg, knocking it into the left leg and causing him to stumble. Not enough to make him actually fall, I agree... but enough to disrupt whatever scoring opportunity he had.
Nuff times de same play would happen in the outfield and even if the man ent fall de ref would look to see if any advantage was lost/gained and award a delayed foul. The player doesn't have to go down for a foul to be called... all there has to be is enough contact to give the 'fouling' player an advantage by dispossessing the "fouled" player.
But what I know I does only kick ball on Wii...
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 21, 2009, 03:47:44 AM
To me, here is where you see so often that there is no honour in this game any more (was there ever any?) Contact does not automatically constitute a foul. Yes, Carvalho did make "contact" with Keane, but clearly he didn't "trip" him because Keane was more than able to stay on his feet, was he not? Keane then thought to himself "wait nuh, dis man now make contact wit meh....I in de box...lemme go dong now and geh a penalty" but it was too late. If he woulda made a predetermination, like so many players do nowadays, that he was going to play for and play into the anticipated contact (stretch out a leg, etc. allyuh know wha ah talkin' bout. Like what rooney do against Arsenal and Eduardo do against Celtic) and gone down immediately, he woulda get de call, no doubt and Webb woulda be correct in giving it. But, as the commentators said, and some have alluded to here, he was too...."honest." He wasn't necessarily playing for the contact nor was his brain working fast enough. For that reason, I think Webb got that call right.
But what I know I does only kick ball on Wii...
This is the only part of your stupidity that amounts to being worth anywhere near a pint of piss, but it's only worth acknowledging for the length time it takes to flush and wash hands. Have a few of these :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: kicker on September 26, 2009, 11:15:03 AM
I guess everyone deserves an off-day.
But 3?
Post by: elan on September 26, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
3 from Wigan?
I guess everyone deserves an off-day.
But 3?
Cut arse we get. I think we needed it. Can't play half way saving for another game and expect to beat the team you are playing now.
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 26, 2009, 11:22:02 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 26, 2009, 11:22:10 AM
3 from Wigan?
I guess everyone deserves an off-day.
But 3?
Kicker, Wigan is a side does always give we a difficult fight going back to their epl debut where Crespo save we ass in the last minute. If you recall two? seasons ago, it was in Abramogrant's last few games of the season we failed to win a critical game against them and was a major contributor in handing the league over to manu.......Wigan doh like we at all!! Dey eat we lunch today and hand we de paper bag to trow in de garbage!
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 03, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
Updated: October 3, 2009, 7:36 AM EDT 7 comments
Carlo Ancelotti believes Liverpool base their game on the defensive, tough-to-beat Italian sides - and he hopes Chelsea can break them down.
Two of the Premier League's big guns square-off at Stamford Bridge on Sunday in Ancelotti's first match against another top-four club since becoming Chelsea boss.
But it will not be the first time he has pitted his wits against Liverpool manager Benitez, who he met twice as coach of AC Milan in the 2005 and 2007 Champions League finals.
In 2005 AC Milan went 3-0 up only for Benitez's Reds to produce a stunning fightback, eventually winning on penalties. The Italian giants then triumphed two years later.
"I don't remember 2005 but I can remember 2007. Rafa only remembers 2005!" said Ancelotti.
"There is no pain in those memories. A difficult moment can teach you to improve.
"We lost an unbelievable game - it was one of the best matches for me when I was at AC Milan.
"It will remain a memory - not a positive one, but not a negative one either.
"It was fantastic for us to have revenge against Liverpool in 2007. We were sure we would win. The score is level between us now."
Ancelotti is full of admiration for Benitez's Liverpool, claiming their style would be at home in Serie A.
Premier League on FSC
Sun., Oct. 4, 11:00 a.m. (LIVE)-
Chelsea vs. Liverpool
"Rafa's teams are well organised, especially defensively, and they work very hard to win the ball. I like this kind of work," said the Italian.
"Liverpool are very hard to play against. I think Rafa has looked at a lot of matches in the Italian league.
"At AC Milan it was very hard to beat Liverpool because they don't concede opportunities in defence. I hope it would be easier tomorrow."
During his time at AC Milan, Ancelotti became aware of Fernando Torres - the brilliant Spanish striker who will spearhead Liverpool's assault on Stamford Bridge.
"Torres is fantastic because he is able to score a lot of goals with the head and with both feet. He is the complete striker," he said.
"I like this kind of player. I never tried to sign him for Milan.
"Milan had a good relationship with Atletico Madrid. We changed a lot of players but Fernando was not for sale."
Post by: STEUPS!! on October 04, 2009, 09:03:07 AM
Post by: WestCoast on October 04, 2009, 09:07:14 AM
Post by: rotatopoti3 on October 04, 2009, 09:12:05 AM
Dat would be nice ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 09:21:59 AM
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 04, 2009, 09:54:57 AM
Post by: kicker on October 04, 2009, 10:15:28 AM
Nice contest so far..fairly even.
fairly even- fairly boring....high on fundamental quality, technique and athleticism...woefully low on imagination, flare, or individual and collective creativity...
I haven't seen a passing sequence yet that goes beyond the routine training ground exercise
The modern game I suppose
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 04, 2009, 10:51:05 AM
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 04, 2009, 10:52:17 AM
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 04, 2009, 10:53:04 AM
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 04, 2009, 10:53:34 AM
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 04, 2009, 10:56:34 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on October 04, 2009, 10:59:38 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 10:59:56 AM
Carragher is becoming a liability in the back. When isolated, he is useless. Anelka and Drogba got the better of him for both goals. Time to give Agger a chance, once fully fit.
Age is man's ultimate liability.
Post by: dinho on October 04, 2009, 11:00:17 AM
Hilario was ah real boss in goal today..
Drogba is a monster.. Liverpool not ready..
Top of the table!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
Nice contest so far..fairly even.
fairly even- fairly boring....high on fundamental quality, technique and athleticism...woefully low on imagination, flare, or individual and collective creativity...
I haven't seen a passing sequence yet that goes beyond the routine training ground exercise
The modern game I suppose
That's the English game. If yuh want fancy passing (culminating in results) yuh have to look to Barcelona!
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 11:13:32 AM
Carragher always getting advantage by Drogba... he is just outmatched and plus he steeply on de way downhill..
Hilario was ah real boss in goal today..
Drogba is a monster.. Liverpool not ready..
Top of the table!!
I think Carragher's career has been on the downslide while Drogba's has been on a long upswing. Early on I have seen Carragher give Drogba beans but over the past two seasons, at least, Drogba has had the upper hand.
The commentators said just what I had been waitinguntil after the game to say about DDQ regarding this current debate about who the best striker is in football. On Torres' best day, I am inclined to give him the slightest edge but his total disappearance in as big a game as this takes points away from him. Even if Drogba is being the DQ that he his, he is making himself involved in the game, and he his fighting and pestering the defense. Torres just disappeared today. Just like with the John Arne Reise own goal that destroyed their CL hopes, the liverpool defense today, allowed an opponent to get past two defenders from a no-win situation to cross a ball for a goal. Poor defending but all credit to Drogba for doing what he does best. The ease with which he crossed that ball (with his left foot, no less) with such accuracy on the first goal was key for me. Hilario's performance did not surprise me.
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 12:13:40 PM
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Post by: kicker on October 04, 2009, 12:20:52 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Post by: Toppa on October 04, 2009, 12:23:44 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
So why Ibrahimovic fifth?
Post by: Blue on October 04, 2009, 12:25:54 PM
Post by: Blue on October 04, 2009, 12:28:26 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
So why Ibrahimovic fifth?
Ibrahimovic is d most talented but too inconsistent. I sorta agree wid Palos in that the only player I feel Chelsea could replace Drogba with at present is Etoo. None of the others would appeal to me right now. Still dont understand how Barca felt dat Etoo + 40 mil was a good deal.
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 12:48:27 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
Post by: dinho on October 04, 2009, 01:12:47 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Ibrahimovic ever score in ah big CL match?
Ibra could carry side? steups
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 01:27:33 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Ibrahimovic ever score in ah big CL match?
Ibra could carry side? steups
What side Eto'o ever carry?
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
I partially agree with you.....because Eto'o is the very best in my book. The only thing I don't like about Ibra is that alot of times he plays as if he has alot more of himself to give to the game but just won't give it.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 01:31:34 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 01:33:02 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
I partially agree with you.....because Eto'o is the very best in my book. The only thing I don't like about Ibra is that alot of times he plays as if he has alot more of himself to give to the game but just won't give it.
That's why I have him as #5 and why he won't be #1 FOR ME due to his lack of consistency.
But when he's ON...there's NOBODY better IMO.
He also has 5 goals & 2 assists in 6 games for Barca this La Liga season. I don't think they could ask for more of him thus far.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 01:39:33 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
I partially agree with you.....because Eto'o is the very best in my book. The only thing I don't like about Ibra is that alot of times he plays as if he has alot more of himself to give to the game but just won't give it.
That's why I have him as #5 and why he won't be #1 FOR ME due to his lack of consistency.
But when he's ON...there's NOBODY better IMO.
He also has 5 goals & 2 assists in 6 games for Barca this La Liga season. I don't think they could ask for more of him thus far.
Well, that depends......maybe yuh might watch de replays and see he coulda easily score 8 and have 5 assists in 5 games. ;D
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 01:40:18 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
In a way...I understand Dunga's predicament. Yuh have Pato & Nilmar as next after Fabiano. Nilmar get a chance and score a hat trick against Chile. Pato is de future if not de now. Where Amauri fittin een? Simply too much competition in Brazil.
Post by: dinho on October 04, 2009, 01:41:20 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Ibrahimovic ever score in ah big CL match?
Ibra could carry side? steups
What side Eto'o ever carry?
Eto'o score in 2 Champions League finals..
Eto'o fed up score in Clasicos..
When Ronaldinho simmer down it was Eto'o and Messi carrying Barca..
Eto'o carry Mallorca..
Ibrahimovic have plenty more to put on he CV to come close.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 04, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
In a way...I understand Dunga's predicament. Yuh have Pato & Nilmar as next after Fabiano. Nilmar get a chance and score a hat trick against Chile. Pato is de future if not de now. Where Amauri fittin een? Simply too much competition in Brazil.
I like to be GREEDY!! I rather have he ass on de bench or as a back up prospect pushing the competitive edge for the upcoming WC or in case man get hurt. Remember what happen to Brazil when Romario get injured just before France '98?
Post by: WestCoast on October 04, 2009, 01:50:59 PM
Post by: elan on October 04, 2009, 02:01:08 PM
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 02:13:05 PM
Eto'o score in 2 Champions League finals..
What CL Final Ibrahimovic played in?
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Eto'o fed up score in Clasicos..
You sayin Ibrahimovic never score against Milan while playing for Inter?
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When Ronaldinho simmer down it was Eto'o and Messi carrying Barca..
Get forkane real! Ronaldinho...den Messi. Eto'o never "carry" nobody.
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Eto'o carry Mallorca..
Who? Where?
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Ibrahimovic have plenty more to put on he CV to come close.
Like u tryin to be deliberately obtuse or wha? When BOTH on their best day, Ibrahimovic is better. Eto'o is more consistent. Which is why I rate Eto'o as #1 currently and Ibra as 5. You jes lookin fuh ole talk.
Post by: Blue on October 04, 2009, 02:24:29 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
In a way...I understand Dunga's predicament. Yuh have Pato & Nilmar as next after Fabiano. Nilmar get a chance and score a hat trick against Chile. Pato is de future if not de now. Where Amauri fittin een? Simply too much competition in Brazil.
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
Post by: palos on October 04, 2009, 02:25:50 PM
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
I respectfully and heartily disagree.
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 04, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
Post by: WestCoast on October 04, 2009, 04:39:45 PM
so if liverpool did win allyuh woulda put it in de liverpool thread.I'll give you one guess :whistling:
;D
Post by: sammy on October 04, 2009, 06:05:44 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
he trying to get through to play for Italy
Italy head coach Marcello Lippi has opened the door for Juventus striker Amauri to receive a call-up to his squad.
The Brazilian-born striker is set to be awarded Italian citizenship next month, making him eligible for the Azzurri as he has never appeared for the South Americans.
And Lippi has admitted he will consider calling up Amauri as Italy look to defend their crown as world champions next summer.
The 29-year-old has had successful spells in Serie A with Chievo and Palermo, before moving to Turin last season, scoring 14 times for the Old Lady.
"It's nice that players like Thiago Motta want to play for Italy, but we don't want to form a team of players like this," Lippi told Sky Sport Italia.
"However, the story for Amauri is different as we have been speaking about him for over a year now.
"Will I call him up? We will have to wait and see."
http://www.football.co.uk/juventus/lippi_drops_amauri_italy_hint_291184.shtml
Post by: Observer on October 04, 2009, 07:34:09 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
In a way...I understand Dunga's predicament. Yuh have Pato & Nilmar as next after Fabiano. Nilmar get a chance and score a hat trick against Chile. Pato is de future if not de now. Where Amauri fittin een? Simply too much competition in Brazil.
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
Can I ask how Robinho get thrown in with Ronaldo and Ronaldinho (beside the fact that his name begins with R)????
Nilma has an amazing International scoring rate and he looks a player to watch.
PS. You do realize Pato could have been playing in this FIFA WC U20?
Post by: Bakes on October 04, 2009, 08:03:30 PM
as far as i see,chelsea,de only threat to united.
As much as I would like to disagree I can't right now... we still having too many issues at the back with a quarter of the scheldule having almost been played. I won't fault Carra for either goal, but he's a shadow of his former self. First goal he had Anelka bracketed along with Lucas... pinpoint cross by Drogba to find his team mate. Could argue for better defense but at some point yuh have to just tip yuh hat to a well-executed play.
Second goal... he got completely undressed by Drogba on the end-line... despite a handful of Drogba's shirt.
Season young still... but we have to get sorted out, and quick.
Post by: kicker on October 04, 2009, 08:43:43 PM
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
On his day, Pato is as good as any striker yuh could name... His decision making and touch is a bit irratic/loose at times, and he doesn't throw his weight around enough in tight situations....so that kills his consistency at times when the game isn't tailored to his obvious strengths...but he has the full package and as he matures it will hopefully all come together- he has both feet, he can head the ball, speed for days and individual dribbling ability...last season he was the hero for Milan and carried them in some crucial games,- believe it or not, he was more dominant than Kaka last season, and carried the scoring load for Milan to get into the Champions' League.
Post by: Blue on October 05, 2009, 01:45:56 AM
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
On his day, Pato is as good as any striker yuh could name... His decision making and touch is a bit irratic/loose at times, and he doesn't throw his weight around enough in tight situations....so that kills his consistency at times when the game isn't tailored to his obvious strengths...but he has the full package and as he matures it will hopefully all come together- he has both feet, he can head the ball, speed for days and individual dribbling ability...last season he was the hero for Milan and carried them in some crucial games,- believe it or not, he was more dominant than Kaka last season, and carried the scoring load for Milan to get into the Champions' League.
And wha bout dis season ;)
I guess time will tell whether he can fill R9's boots
Post by: kicker on October 05, 2009, 08:27:16 AM
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
On his day, Pato is as good as any striker yuh could name... His decision making and touch is a bit irratic/loose at times, and he doesn't throw his weight around enough in tight situations....so that kills his consistency at times when the game isn't tailored to his obvious strengths...but he has the full package and as he matures it will hopefully all come together- he has both feet, he can head the ball, speed for days and individual dribbling ability...last season he was the hero for Milan and carried them in some crucial games,- believe it or not, he was more dominant than Kaka last season, and carried the scoring load for Milan to get into the Champions' League.
And wha bout dis season ;)
I guess time will tell whether he can fill R9's boots
Seems to be having a rocky start to the season, but that looks to be a reflection of bigger problems with the team as a whole...chicken and the egg kinda argument I suppose.
Not being able to fill R9's boots is no indictment...Ronaldo was the best the world has seen in that position...ever.
Pato is Pato... and he looks to have what it takes to leave a good mark on the game.
Post by: xixgon on October 05, 2009, 02:30:19 PM
Neither of Drogba or Torres...as wonderful strikers as they are...can touch Eto'o.
And with all of the best strikers in the world ON THEIR BEST DAY, none can touch Ibrahimovic.
Based on finishing ability, strength in the air, pace, power, two footed, & consistency, the top 5 strikers in world football for me right now are:
1 - Eto'o
2 - Drogba
3 - Torres
4 - Luis Fabiano
5 - Ibrahimovic
Yuh could mix up that top 5 in any order yuh won't go wrong....but yuh hadda throw David Villa somewhere in that mix (make it a top 6 ;D)... Because it doh get much better than that inside the 18 yrd box.
Fuh real. David Villa is poison. But it only have room for 5 in a Top 5 8)
Yuh know who ah like BAD BAD....Amauri from Juventus. Dat SICK sah!
Right now Di Natale from Udinese is de SUN itself.....9 goals in 7 games? IN ITALY?? Unheard of!
For me, Villa would head de other 5 in a top 10:
6 - David Villa
7 - Pato
8 - Totti
9 - Amauri
10 - Rooney
I don't know WHY Dunga doh act quick and run out Amauri in a international fuh Brazil!! ???
In a way...I understand Dunga's predicament. Yuh have Pato & Nilmar as next after Fabiano. Nilmar get a chance and score a hat trick against Chile. Pato is de future if not de now. Where Amauri fittin een? Simply too much competition in Brazil.
Pato is not really in d picture, iz Fabiano, Adriano (who is back in form it seems) and Nilmar. Pato is overhyped anyway, he will never (daz right, never) be a star boy like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Robinho. Never. Hype.
Probably not if he stays at Milan, but he's young still - definitely has shown the ability, if not the consistency.
Milan are going nowhere fast though (except perhaps down).
Post by: big dawg on October 07, 2009, 05:36:31 AM
Didier Drogba has urged Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti to make a move for ex-Arsenal midfielder Patrick Vieira in the January transfer window.
The Premier League leaders are unable to bring in new players due to a transfer embargo imposed by FIFA, but should the club's appeal against that ruling be successful, Drogba believes veteran midfielder Vieira should be the frst name on Ancelotti's wish-list.
"It would be a good move for Chelsea to bring Patrick in,'' the Ivory Coast international told the Sun. "Don't forget we are going to miss several players in January, particularly in midfield, because of the African Nations Cup."We played against Vieira last summer and he was very strong.''
It has been reported that Vieira, currently at Inter Milan, is seen by Ancelotti as ideal cover for Michael Essien and John Obi Mikel, who will both be taken out of the equation by African Nations Cup duty.
The 33-year-old Vieira was at Stamford Bridge on Sunday to see Chelsea return to the top of the league with victory over Liverpool
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2009/1007/drogbaandvieira20091007_275x155.jpg)
link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=683489&sec=england&cc=5901)
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 17, 2009, 11:07:50 AM
Post by: Blue on October 25, 2009, 12:50:59 PM
Post by: big dawg on October 28, 2009, 03:54:02 PM
4-0 this afternoon
now that we shake off all the blight from 2 weeks ago.. lemme start a table so that we can cross out all the trophies we'll acquire throughout the season...
The Magic No. is 5
;D ;D
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions League
League Champions
Post by: Blue on October 28, 2009, 04:03:30 PM
5-0 over the weekend
4-0 this afternoon
now that we shake off all the blight from 2 weeks ago.. lemme start a table so that we can cross out all the trophies we'll acquire throughout the season...
The Magic No. is 5
;D ;DCommunity Shield
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions League
League Champions
U forgot to mention the 4-0 the previous Wednesday. And we eh concede a goal at home since day 1 of d season.
Dat was one of de most run-of-the-mill blowouts i have ever seen, we didnt even break a sweat.
On a sour note...based on d few times I've seen him play for us now, Danny Sturridge is lookin like d next...Salomon Kalou :(
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2009, 06:26:45 PM
5-0 over the weekend
4-0 this afternoon
now that we shake off all the blight from 2 weeks ago.. lemme start a table so that we can cross out all the trophies we'll acquire throughout the season...
The Magic No. is 5
;D ;DCommunity Shield
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions League
League Champions
;D
Post by: elan on October 28, 2009, 08:57:06 PM
5-0 over the weekend
4-0 this afternoon
now that we shake off all the blight from 2 weeks ago.. lemme start a table so that we can cross out all the trophies we'll acquire throughout the season...
The Magic No. is 5
;D ;DCommunity Shield
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions League
League Champions
Doh flash that #5 nah. Remember what happen to that big team last year who was suppose to win 5.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 29, 2009, 03:21:59 AM
5-0 over the weekend
4-0 this afternoon
now that we shake off all the blight from 2 weeks ago.. lemme start a table so that we can cross out all the trophies we'll acquire throughout the season...
The Magic No. is 5
;D ;DCommunity Shield
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions League
League Champions
U forgot to mention the 4-0 the previous Wednesday. And we eh concede a goal at home since day 1 of d season.
Dat was one of de most run-of-the-mill blowouts i have ever seen, we didnt even break a sweat.
On a sour note...based on d few times I've seen him play for us now, Danny Sturridge is lookin like d next...Salomon Kalou :(
;D As frustrating as Kalou's play can be at times, his scoring rate ain't too bad yuh know.....so I eh sure dat is quite a sour note for young Sturridge.....give 'im time, he still young.
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2009, 11:27:25 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on October 31, 2009, 11:44:52 AM
Another day, another 4-0. Champions :beermug:
big team is big team, yuh know! :beermug:
Post by: dinho on November 03, 2009, 10:51:16 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10314714/Platini-denies-conspiracy-claims (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10314714/Platini-denies-conspiracy-claims)
UEFA president Michel Platini has denied suggestions he did not want Chelsea to make the Champions League final last season.
Some Chelsea fans accused UEFA of a conspiracy against them after their semi-final defeat to Barcelona, alleging Platini wanted to prevent them contesting another all-Premier League showdown against Manchester United.
Platini, though, has denied the allegations.
"Do you think I am so stupid as to ask a referee to make Chelsea not get to the final?" he said.
"I always respect all the players and clubs. I don't interfere. If two English teams are in the final, I have no problem. If it's two Spanish teams, no problem. It's better if not two from the same country but it's not my problem.
"If they get there, they deserve to be there. It is not because I like Barcelona's system (of fan ownership) that I exempt them to go to the final!"
Platini also stressed he is not involved in the process of refereeing appointments and claims he still does not know the identity of Tom Henning Ovrebo, who refereed the semi-final clash.
"When I arrive at a stadium, I don't know the name of the referee," he said. "That's the decision of the independent committee of referees. I was not there at Chelsea. I didn't know the name of the referee and I still don't.
"I don't know whether the referee made a mistake or not. If it was a mistake, I will say 'it's not a mistake' because I have to defend the referees."
Didier Drogba was given a three-game suspension for verbally abusing Ovrebo at the end of their semi-final defeat, but he is expected to return to line up against Atletico Madrid on Tuesday night and Platini has backed him to return "better and stronger".
"What I saw on TV was the comportment of Didier," added Platini. "All the TV showed the insult of Drogba, not the decisions.
"I was like Drogba in the past when I saw an injustice as a player. But I don't know Drogba's mind.
"He took the decision that he felt was right for him. He was alone in thinking that.
"Drogba's a good guy. I know him very well. He understands now that he made a mistake. Everybody does. He will come back better, stronger."
Post by: dinho on November 06, 2009, 09:21:34 AM
Blues have transfer ban suspended
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10329016/Blues-have-transfer-ban-suspended (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10329016/Blues-have-transfer-ban-suspended)
Chelsea will be able to buy in the January transfer window after the CAS suspended their FIFA-imposed transfer ban, pending a final decision.
Ordinal out of range
FIFA banned the Blues from any transfer activity for the next two periods of transfer activity in early September after they were found guilty of inducing Gael Kakuta to breach his contract with French club Lens.
Chelsea appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport against the punishment and, as part of their appeal, requested the transfer ban be 'stayed' until the case had been dealt with.
A statement from CAS read: "The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has granted the request for a stay filed by Chelsea Football Club Ltd and Mr Gael Kakuta in relation to the decision taken by the FIFA Dispute Resolution Chamber on 27 August 2009.
"The FIFA Dispute Resolution Chamber imposed, inter alia, a restriction of four months' ineligibility on Mr Gael Kakuta, and Chelsea Football Club Ltd was banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for the next two complete, consecutive registration periods. Such sanctions are now stayed until the CAS renders its final decision in this matter."
CAS are not expected to hear the case until the new year, which should leave Chelsea free to buy and sell as normal in January.
CAS confirmed on October 22 they had received an appeal from Chelsea asking for the ban to be stayed.
Immediately after the decision of FIFA's dispute resolution chamber was made public, the London club made clear their intent to appeal against the ban and compensation payments to Lens of almost one million euros, which they described as "disproportionate".
A statement from the club read: "Chelsea will mount the strongest appeal possible following the decision of FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber over Gael Kakuta.
"The sanctions are without precedent to this level and totally disproportionate to the alleged offence and the financial penalty imposed.
"We cannot comment further until we receive the full written rationale for this extraordinarily arbitrary decision."
Lens requested compensation for Kakuta after he signed for Chelsea in the summer of 2008 and FIFA's DRC agreed Chelsea had indeed been guilty of inducing the youngster to break his contract and announced their verdict in a short statement on September 3.
"The French club had lodged a claim with FIFA seeking compensation for breach of contract from the player and requesting also sporting sanctions to be imposed on the player and the English club for breach of contract and inducement to breach of contract respectively," said FIFA.
"The DRC found that the player had indeed breached a contract signed with the French club. Equally, the DRC deemed it to be established that the English club induced the player to such breach.
"As a result the player was condemned to pay compensation in the amount of 780,000 euros, for which the club, Chelsea, is jointly and severally liable, and sporting sanctions were imposed on both the player and Chelsea.
"A restriction of four months on his eligibility to play in official matches is imposed on the player Gael Kakuta while the club Chelsea is banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for the two next entire and consecutive registration periods following the notification of the present decision.
"Furthermore, Chelsea, has to pay RC Lens training compensation in the amount of 130,000 euros."
Post by: big dawg on November 08, 2009, 12:15:07 PM
Nov 8th 2009
RK TEAM P W D L GS GA W D L GS GA W D L GS GA GD Pts
1 Chelsea 12 10 0 2 29 8 6 0 0 16 1 4 0 2 13 7 21 30
2 Arsenal 11 8 1 2 36 14 5 0 0 20 4 3 1 2 16 10 22 25
3 Manchester United 12 8 1 3 23 12 5 1 0 13 7 3 0 3 10 5 11 25
4 Tottenham Hotspur 12 7 1 4 23 17 4 0 2 12 6 3 1 2 11 11 6 22
5 Aston Villa 12 6 3 3 20 12 4 1 1 12 5 2 2 2 8 7 8 21
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 21, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
5-0 over the weekend
4-0 this afternoon
now that we shake off all the blight from 2 weeks ago.. lemme start a table so that we can cross out all the trophies we'll acquire throughout the season...
The Magic No. is 5
;D ;DCommunity Shield
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions League
League Champions
Another blowout, another shutout, a little help from Sunderlan (thanks m8s), hopefully more help is on the way from Everton.......and everybody else is to watch and wonder!
Dinho....yuh boy Malouda get he braids tighten up because like he know he makin an appearnce on "Goals of the Week" nex' week.
Post by: Blue on November 21, 2009, 12:14:53 PM
The usual champagne football at the Bridge, even without some of the big guns. Two things about the game:
1. Petr Cech made a phenomenal save from a Wolves header in the first half. It was truly stunning, cant wait to see a replay.
2. Gael Kakuta (of Transfer Ban fame) made his debut today, coming on midway through the second half. OK, it was only a 25 minute sweat, but he looks like he will be an AMAZING player. Looked to have all the touches of Joe Cole, could not be shaken off the ball, and he has a wicked shot on him. That could easily have been Robinho on the field.
Champions :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 21, 2009, 12:19:19 PM
Another day, another 4-0. I sure I say dat before :devil:
The usual champagne football at the Bridge, even without some of the big guns. Two things about the game:
1. Petr Cech made a phenomenal save from a Wolves header in the first half. It was truly stunning, cant wait to see a replay.
2. Gael Kakuta (of Transfer Ban fame) made his debut today, coming on midway through the second half. OK, it was only a 25 minute sweat, but he looks like he will be an AMAZING player. Looked to have all the touches of Joe Cole, could not be shaken off the ball, and he has a wicked shot on him. That could easily have been Robinho on the field.
Champions :beermug:
....so it go be "Tight Head" Malouda on "Goals of the Week" and "Metal Head Cech" on"Saves of the WeeK" then?
Post by: Blue on November 21, 2009, 12:25:15 PM
Another day, another 4-0. I sure I say dat before :devil:
The usual champagne football at the Bridge, even without some of the big guns. Two things about the game:
1. Petr Cech made a phenomenal save from a Wolves header in the first half. It was truly stunning, cant wait to see a replay.
2. Gael Kakuta (of Transfer Ban fame) made his debut today, coming on midway through the second half. OK, it was only a 25 minute sweat, but he looks like he will be an AMAZING player. Looked to have all the touches of Joe Cole, could not be shaken off the ball, and he has a wicked shot on him. That could easily have been Robinho on the field.
Champions :beermug:
....so it go be "Tight Head" Malouda on "Goals of the Week" and "Metal Head Cech" on"Saves of the WeeK" then?
Malouda score a decent bullet, but to be honest the defending was non-existent. Say what, Malouda did what he had to do.
But Darren Fletcher just take Goal of the Week against Everton dere. By d way, Dwight in d studio on ESPN UK givin his halftime thoughts in his usual Tringlish ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 21, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
Another day, another 4-0. I sure I say dat before :devil:
The usual champagne football at the Bridge, even without some of the big guns. Two things about the game:
1. Petr Cech made a phenomenal save from a Wolves header in the first half. It was truly stunning, cant wait to see a replay.
2. Gael Kakuta (of Transfer Ban fame) made his debut today, coming on midway through the second half. OK, it was only a 25 minute sweat, but he looks like he will be an AMAZING player. Looked to have all the touches of Joe Cole, could not be shaken off the ball, and he has a wicked shot on him. That could easily have been Robinho on the field.
Champions :beermug:
....so it go be "Tight Head" Malouda on "Goals of the Week" and "Metal Head Cech" on"Saves of the WeeK" then?
Malouda score a decent bullet, but to be honest the defending was non-existent. Say what, Malouda did what he had to do.
But Darren Fletcher just take Goal of the Week against Everton dere. By d way, Dwight in d studio on ESPN UK givin his halftime thoughts in his usual Tringlish ;D
Me eh care 'bout de defending (and me eh care 'bout fletcher and manboo). It was a sweet bullet. Period.
Post by: Blue on November 22, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1229799/Chelsea-4-Wolves-0-New-wonder-boy-worth-fuss-Blues-canter-win.html
Gael Kakuta, a teenager entrapped in a controversy involving the mandarins from Fifa, delivered a 31-minute cameo on a rainswept afternoon that shone a bright light on the future havoc he can be expected to wreak in a Chelsea shirt.
He was comfortable on the ball, fast, intelligent in his decision making and could easily have marked his debut with a goal, as Chelsea dealt with the absence of Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba and Michael Ballack with comfort at Stamford Bridge.
Perhaps it is as well that Kakuta looked more than a shade decent; it would have been an awful embarrassment to report otherwise considering the trouble his arrival caused.
Frenchman Kakuta, 18, was allowed to play yesterday as the four-month ban imposed on him by Fifa in September - after Chelsea had been found guilty of inducing him to break his contract with Lens two years ago - has been lifted while the leaders of the Premier League present an appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
Critically, under the appeal, Chelsea will also be permitted to undertake business in the transfer window in January, having been originally banned from registering new players for 12 months.
Kakuta has been wisely managed and counselled, by Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti through circumstances that must be overwhelming for a young player in a foreign land.
‘For two or three weeks, Kakuta had some difficulties with the ban,’ said Ancelotti. ‘But we took him with the first team and he trained with us. In 30 minutes today, he showed a very big talent.
'But we have to stay calm with him; he’s very young and we hope and believe he will improve and be a big player.’
His introduction showed a young man intuitively aware on a football field and he had been barely involved for three minutes when he swerved past Richard Stearman inside the penalty area only to sweep a left-footed shot into the side netting.
Nine minutes from time, Kakuta unleashed a drive from 25 yards that flashed narrowly wide of an upright. He had shown us a glimpse of the outstanding promise Ancelotti has identified.
Post by: dinho on November 25, 2009, 10:49:51 AM
Post by: elan on November 25, 2009, 11:48:11 AM
And by the way Chelsea will bring in more people in the window.
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Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 09:33:33 AM
hello??....................where de Blue Man group....................still sleepin ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 10:45:12 AM
Big match
hello??....................where de Blue Man group....................still sleepin ;D
Ah-TALL! Watch yuh mout'! I up since Inter-Fiorentina kickoff!!
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 10:47:07 AM
2 upBig match
hello??....................where de Blue Man group....................still sleepin ;D
Ah-TALL! Watch yuh mout'! I up since Inter-Fiorentina kickoff!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 10:53:45 AM
2 upBig match
hello??....................where de Blue Man group....................still sleepin ;D
Ah-TALL! Watch yuh mout'! I up since Inter-Fiorentina kickoff!!
Dem two kwik goal save dem......even though Cech was hardly being tested, arsenal's confidence was surging and on a slick, rainy surface, anything can be possible. Anelka was letting his defenders outwork him for balls and that work rate up front needed to change.......arsenal came into this game too riddled with injuries to be able to compete, but dize howw it is, sometimes. I doh see dem comin' back from this.
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 10:56:05 AM
yeah arse anal looked the better team till Drogs goal2 upBig match
hello??....................where de Blue Man group....................still sleepin ;D
Ah-TALL! Watch yuh mout'! I up since Inter-Fiorentina kickoff!!
Dem two kwik goal save dem......even though Cech was hardly being tested, arsenal's confidence was surging and on a slick, rainy surface, anything can be possible. Anelka was letting his defenders outwork him for balls and that work rate up front needed to change.......arsenal came into this game too riddled with injuries to be able to compete, but dize howw it is, sometimes. I doh see dem comin' back from this.
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 11:01:38 AM
Possession don't count for nothing unless you can convert it to something. It like having a lot of money,it is of no value unless you spend it. Drogba does make it rain. :devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 11:04:02 AM
yeah arse anal looked the better team till Drogs goal2 upBig match
hello??....................where de Blue Man group....................still sleepin ;D
Ah-TALL! Watch yuh mout'! I up since Inter-Fiorentina kickoff!!
Dem two kwik goal save dem......even though Cech was hardly being tested, arsenal's confidence was surging and on a slick, rainy surface, anything can be possible. Anelka was letting his defenders outwork him for balls and that work rate up front needed to change.......arsenal came into this game too riddled with injuries to be able to compete, but dize howw it is, sometimes. I doh see dem comin' back from this.
Yeah....I guess.....I am less inclined to say they looked better as I am to say that Chelsea was just playing on their heels and letting them bring the game....but in all fairness....ass anal have more speed than Chelsea and on a wet surface like this, one can really be a little hesitant to rush een.....I just find Anelka was lookin' like he was in sour mode today when a little more effort on his part would change the control ass anal seemed to have. Looked like only the defenders were really working hard for Chelsea.....
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 11:07:31 AM
Let arsenal keep trying to walk the ball in the goal, but then again they have no ther options as they cannot cross the ball and Essien is like the Great wall and Mikel dropping bombs.
Possession don't count for nothing unless you can convert it to something. It like having a lot of money,it is of no value unless you spend it. Drogba does make it rain. :devil:
"...make it raiiiin, Esay, make it rain!" :rotfl:
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
madness around the keeper and then goal disallowed
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 11:15:39 AM
that was horrors there :o
madness around the keeper and then goal disallowed
It was a good call....eduardo raise he foot too high into Cech chest when they both went fuh de ball.....
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 11:21:29 AM
yeah I heard the whistle before the shot was takenthat was horrors there :o
madness around the keeper and then goal disallowed
It was a good call....eduardo raise he foot too high into Cech chest when they both went fuh de ball.....
i givin de arseanal men someting to grasp at nuh
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 11:28:39 AM
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
ass 'n all is a very, very talented side and dey could rel knock some ball.....but dey need to get outta dis' small-goal mentality, especially when dey playin' a big side like Chelsea. I now see dey had a perfect chance on a counterattack.....man collect the ball WIDE OPEN on top corner the Chelsea 18 and instead of takin a good shot @ goal (especially on this slick surface) what de jackass do? he pass de ball into the strength of Chelsea's defense. Game done."big side" :rotfl:
ya want smalls to rough ya up today :devil: :devil:
and why wanker take off that next tess there....wasnt he causin real probs for Chelsea
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 11:36:14 AM
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 11:42:32 AM
Man U started doing the same thing last year. I suppose it is a measure of respect, but you can't expect people to let you kill them the way you want to.
Also interesting to see just how much more physical Chelsea is. Men against boys.
Arsenal is my 2nd epl team, real entertaining to watch, but they have to learn to overcome the clog-ball. Until then LICKS!!!.
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 11:46:12 AM
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 11:46:39 AM
LICCKSSSS!!!!!!
Post by: Reaper2004 on November 29, 2009, 11:47:59 AM
anybody have a link for this game???
http://atdhe.net/10616/watch-arsenal-vs-chelsea
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 11:49:50 AM
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 11:53:09 AM
anybody have a link for this game???
http://atdhe.net/10616/watch-arsenal-vs-chelsea
Look a better link here:
(http://andersonpooper.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/crotch-kick.jpg)
Post by: Observer on November 29, 2009, 11:53:50 AM
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2009, 11:55:34 AM
Champions :beermug:
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
Post by: fari on November 29, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 12:05:29 PM
The ref giving Mikel a real hard time. Arsenal getting a lot of ghost calls.
elan boy....same ting I was tellin' meh padnah on de phone....I find the refs in the league does give 'im a hard time, period.
Post by: STEUPS!! on November 29, 2009, 12:20:44 PM
There can no longer be any doubters.....just haters :mackdaddy:
Champions :beermug:
ah said it before an i will say it again,
BIG TEAM IS BIG FLECKIN TEAM!!!!!! :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: dinho on November 29, 2009, 12:58:50 PM
Arsenal does look better with the possession and pretty touches for about the first 15-20 mins of each half and chelsea just soak up the pressure and aim to hit them on the counter, with a long ball or from a set piece.. Then chelsea use their physical presence to overpower all their smaller players and by the time you score one on them their brand buss..
Of the top 4 EPL teams, Arsenal is always the easiest to deal with for Chelsea because its men against boys.. No steel in that Arsenal side and the setta small touch just plays into the hands of the strong chelsea back 4. I laugh when i see Arsenal getting outmuscled by Essien, Mikel and Lampard in the middle, then Wenger replaced Song with an even weaker player in Walcott. The game was over as far as i was concerned right there and then.
the only thing standing in the way of chelsea and the title this year is the African nations cup, and even that i dont envision to be a big problem.
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2009, 01:10:08 PM
the only thing standing in the way of chelsea and the title this year is the African nations cup, and even that i dont envision to be a big problem.
For the record, our African Nations schedule is Hull (Away), Sunderland (Home), Birmingham (Home), Burnley (Away). ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 01:30:20 PM
mango chow i don't know why you were surprised, in this game it was the same script that plays out season after season..
Arsenal does look better with the possession and pretty touches for about the first 15-20 mins of each half and chelsea just soak up the pressure and aim to hit them on the counter, with a long ball or from a set piece.. Then chelsea use their physical presence to overpower all their smaller players and by the time you score one on them their brand buss..
Of the top 4 EPL teams, Arsenal is always the easiest to deal with for Chelsea because its men against boys.. No steel in that Arsenal side and the setta small touch just plays into the hands of the strong chelsea back 4. I laugh when i see Arsenal getting outmuscled by Essien, Mikel and Lampard in the middle, then Wenger replaced Song with an even weaker player in Walcott. The game was over as far as i was concerned right there and then.
the only thing standing in the way of chelsea and the title this year is the African nations cup, and even that i dont envision to be a big problem.
dinho boy, if I sound surprised it truly was a misrepresentation on my part....I predicted a 4-1 blowout.
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 30, 2009, 06:34:01 AM
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2009, 10:37:43 AM
well done we made it easy for u guys
no, no... we made it difficult for you!
Post by: Bitter on December 02, 2009, 04:41:17 PM
3-3 now on to penalties
Post by: Bitter on December 02, 2009, 04:46:58 PM
Blackburn through on Penalties.
So it's Man u vs Man City and Blackburn vs Villa
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 02, 2009, 04:50:26 PM
f**k OFF RENT BOYS
get in Blackburn!
Post by: Blue on December 02, 2009, 05:02:12 PM
I real celebrate just now... i take in the extra time and pens on a radio feed... When chelsea equalise in the 120nd i get reallll angry
f**k OFF RENT BOYS
get in Blackburn!
There's a reason why Carling Cup games at Stamford Bridge are 3 times cheaper to attend than Premiership games ;D
Good luck with this competition though :beermug:
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 02, 2009, 05:28:25 PM
Post by: Blue on December 02, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
skant consolation to my week but good fuh yuh chelsea
At least Small Mag team win, he has braggin rights.
Yall, on the other hand, gettin shutout and blowout at every opportunity :devil:
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 02, 2009, 05:48:46 PM
skant consolation to my week but good fuh yuh chelsea
At least Small Mag team win, he has braggin rights.
Yall, on the other hand, gettin shutout and blowout at every opportunity :devil:
das alright allyuh had no right to go out against blackburn yuh over priced shithounds, full strength too!
Post by: SOBRIQUET on December 02, 2009, 06:43:22 PM
skant consolation to my week but good fuh yuh chelsea
At least Small Mag team win, he has braggin rights.
Yall, on the other hand, gettin shutout and blowout at every opportunity :devil:
das alright allyuh had no right to go out against blackburn yuh over priced shithounds, full strength too!
full strenght? try 8 changes to the squad that wallop allyuh! might only seem full strenght to you, who accostomed to a paper thin squad! like allyuh arsenal men have no blasted shame or wha?
Post by: dinho on December 02, 2009, 06:54:31 PM
Post by: elan on December 02, 2009, 09:55:28 PM
I real celebrate just now... i take in the extra time and pens on a radio feed... When chelsea equalise in the 120nd i get reallll angry
f**k OFF RENT BOYS
get in Blackburn!
Celebrate yuh Carling Cup.
Post by: elan on December 02, 2009, 09:56:53 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 05, 2009, 10:19:17 AM
Post by: elan on December 05, 2009, 12:14:55 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2009, 12:17:07 PM
come on citeeh
Yuh might as well support a side that at least can show some backbone against a Big Side.
What Deco really doing out dey in this game? ???
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2009, 12:19:22 PM
Chelsea cyah get a call. Hip check on Peter Cech, then blatant hand ball. Say what we will still poison them
A lot ot people have tried to label howard webb as one of the best refs in the epl but I find he's as inconsistent
as the worst of them........
Post by: fari on December 05, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Post by: elan on December 05, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
Chelsea cyah get a call. Hip check on Peter Cech, then blatant hand ball. Say what we will still poison them
A lot ot people have tried to label howard webb as one of the best refs in the epl but I find he's as inconsistent
as the worst of them........
Yeah but Chelsea trying to take the game to easy. They need to stop walking through games and take the game to teams. January ah soon come and we will go into top gear.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2009, 12:23:43 PM
the moneybags derby going good man, chelsea under the kosh and pressure finally told. but with lescott and toure in the back any number could play
Meh belly nearly buss wit laughter when I hear de commentator say dat. ;D
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 05, 2009, 12:50:49 PM
Post by: Jah Gol on December 05, 2009, 12:53:34 PM
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 05, 2009, 12:54:36 PM
Robinho add muscle ?
Musbe bench pressin some ah dem mampe in Manchester
Post by: Bitter on December 05, 2009, 01:19:05 PM
Frenism shoulda play out dey...
Post by: Jah Gol on December 05, 2009, 01:25:02 PM
Post by: Daft Trini on December 05, 2009, 01:28:01 PM
Post by: elan on December 05, 2009, 01:32:30 PM
stamford bridge is falling down, falling down... :rotfl:
One game we lose and you talking about falling down?
Post by: elan on December 05, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
Post by: Daft Trini on December 05, 2009, 01:36:28 PM
Post by: sammy on December 05, 2009, 01:36:50 PM
Ah go take meh licks from the men and them in red, but remember we in December and tis the season to be jolly.
AND AFTER
[/quote]
. January ah soon come and we will go into top gear.
[/quote]
next week u go be talking bout February?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2009, 01:36:58 PM
Ballack. Me eh know WHY Chelsea puttin' so much faith in this thug over JOM...rel rediculous
Deco. He eh do shit hole game.....pure assness today
Drogba had a right to put Chelsea up 2-0 and kick straight to Given
Anelka......at least Drogba do sumting....
Carvalho...rel DOTISH foul on Tevez, especially after he had already played the ball
Cech.....rel DOTISHNESS on the resulting free-kick
Lampard....is only one way to take a penalty on a wet pitch and tryin' to finesse it isn't that way.
SWP.....was givin' he old teammates BEANS whole day!
Shay given......another excellent performance. Man of the Match fuh me!
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2009, 01:38:57 PM
Toure... no was an accident :beermug: Half Kick+ Half Dive = No card
It wasn't Toure that commited that foul.....it was the OTHER African, Nedum Onuoha, the Nigerian.
Post by: elan on December 05, 2009, 03:19:29 PM
BEFORE:Ah go take meh licks from the men and them in red, but remember we in December and tis the season to be jolly.
AND AFTER
. January ah soon come and we will go into top gear.
[/quote]
next week u go be talking bout February?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
[/quote]
I not referencing Chelsea i'm talking about all who need to play catch up. When February come, hope you all in stiking range at least.
Post by: Blue on December 06, 2009, 06:15:39 AM
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 07, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
We got beat by the league's second best team today, away from hone....no scene, i had dat game down as a loss for weeks now lol... but now its an easy run right through to end of Jan :beermug:
second best team my ass
second richest maybe
explained to a typical trini footballer/fan that beacuse a side has the most expensive players and most money DOES NOT make them a big side, thier collective tropies records and honours does that
so real madrid is ah big side barca too
in england the top 3 big sides are liverpool (40) manu (39) arsenal (27)
followed by villa (22) Spurs (17) Everton and Chelsea (15) newcastle (11) blackburn (10) man city(9)
so please don't confuse riches with proven riches of trophies
above is FACT shows all wins
Key shows which competitions trophies were gained from
Domestic League
League = Champions of
Premier League or
(until 1992) Football League
Domestic Cup Competitions
FAC = FA Cup
LC = League Cup
Primary European Competitions
CL = Champions League
EC = European Cup
Other European Competitions
UCWC = UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
ESC=UEFA European Super Cup
FC = Inter-Cities Fairs Cup
ITC = Inter-Toto Cup
UC = UEFA Cup
Worldwide Competitions
CWC = Club World Cup
ICC = Intercontinental Cup
Post by: Bitter on December 07, 2009, 09:04:22 AM
Post by: Blue on December 07, 2009, 02:10:04 PM
We got beat by the league's second best team today, away from hone....no scene, i had dat game down as a loss for weeks now lol... but now its an easy run right through to end of Jan :beermug:
second best team my ass
second richest maybe
explained to a typical trini footballer/fan that beacuse a side has the most expensive players and most money DOES NOT make them a big side, thier collective tropies records and honours does that
Boss, I do not care how much money any club spends. It is not my money, I couldnt care less. Seeing as yuh want to call stats, I will use my own...so far dis season I've been to Stamford Bridge 8 times....8 wins, 0 goals conceded and in 4 of those matches we scored 4 goals or more. Champagne Football. THAT is what makes us a big side.
And I eh no hater, I used to go watch Arsenal back in d days of Henry and Pires...but daz your problem right dere....that WAS a big side. Nottingham Forest was a big side too.
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 07, 2009, 08:53:51 PM
totally missed the pointWe got beat by the league's second best team today, away from hone....no scene, i had dat game down as a loss for weeks now lol... but now its an easy run right through to end of Jan :beermug:
second best team my ass
second richest maybe
explained to a typical trini footballer/fan that beacuse a side has the most expensive players and most money DOES NOT make them a big side, thier collective tropies records and honours does that
Boss, I do not care how much money any club spends. It is not my money, I couldnt care less. Seeing as yuh want to call stats, I will use my own...so far dis season I've been to Stamford Bridge 8 times....8 wins, 0 goals conceded and in 4 of those matches we scored 4 goals or more. Champagne Football. THAT is what makes us a big side.
And I eh no hater, I used to go watch Arsenal back in d days of Henry and Pires...but daz your problem right dere....that WAS a big side. Nottingham Forest was a big side too.
so nott forrest come back to premiership win fa cup, carling cup n prem and following year champs league, and world club cup, then next year get relegated,dats a big side too? because of achievments in a 18month period? never to be seen again for decades?
pointless thinking like that permates this nations footballing culture and will forever hold us back
respect teams playing great ball with great players (invariably they play at established clubs with a history of winning trophies)
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 07, 2009, 08:58:55 PM
Gunner, trophies are a measure of past performance. Like they does say in the fine print, Past Performance Does Not Guarantee Future Results.
how does one even get this "big" club moniker? obviously something in their past and also inclusive of their present efforts affords that but we aren't taking about future results we are talking about "Big" sides who winning right now vs sides who have a history off winning and will continue to do so but not necessarily in the present
Post by: dinho on December 07, 2009, 09:40:33 PM
Post by: elan on December 08, 2009, 02:30:52 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 08, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
Gunner, trophies are a measure of past performance. Like they does say in the fine print, Past Performance Does Not Guarantee Future Results.
how does one even get this "big" club moniker? obviously something in their past and also inclusive of their present efforts affords that but we aren't taking about future results we are talking about "Big" sides who winning right now vs sides who have a history off winning and will continue to do so but not necessarily in the present
True.
I was only responding to the exchange. Ryan's stated opinion is that Man City is the 2nd best club in the league. This year. Nothing more, nothing less. You are the one who introcuced the "big club" distinction.
But that's cool. I think it's worth discussing just how does one go about becoming a big club. You have to buy your way in. Big sides, have top players, Top players either come for the money, or the opportunity to win trophies. People who are vexed at this ignore the fact that thier own "big" clubs spend tons of money as well. It's not like Man U or Barca are operating on peanuts.
The only club at this point that is bucking the trend at the moment is Arsenal. Ironically people complain that they are not buying thier way to the top. Can't win no matter what side you're on.
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 12, 2009, 07:03:59 PM
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 12, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Gunner, trophies are a measure of past performance. Like they does say in the fine print, Past Performance Does Not Guarantee Future Results.
how does one even get this "big" club moniker? obviously something in their past and also inclusive of their present efforts affords that but we aren't taking about future results we are talking about "Big" sides who winning right now vs sides who have a history off winning and will continue to do so but not necessarily in the present
True.
I was only responding to the exchange. Ryan's stated opinion is that Man City is the 2nd best club in the league. This year. Nothing more, nothing less. You are the one who introcuced the "big club" distinction.
But that's cool. I think it's worth discussing just how does one go about becoming a big club. You have to buy your way in. Big sides, have top players, Top players either come for the money, or the opportunity to win trophies. People who are vexed at this ignore the fact that thier own "big" clubs spend tons of money as well. It's not like Man U or Barca are operating on peanuts.
The only club at this point that is bucking the trend at the moment is Arsenal. Ironically people complain that they are not buying thier way to the top. Can't win no matter what side you're on.
fuh real eh
but man city are not the "second best side this year" they are the second most expensive players and wages
manu are 700pounds in debt having said that they have the silver ware to back it up, but not a policy arsenal are willing to follow just for the sake of silverware
arsenal are victims of their own principles in a world where moeny is thrown at problems or hopefully acheive success
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 12, 2009, 08:35:35 PM
thank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2009, 08:47:06 PM
thank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 12, 2009, 09:38:36 PM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2009, 12:46:24 AM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
OK.....so almunia has never made 3 errors on three set pieces (if you can really call them that. I wouldn't credit Drogba's header off Saha's back to an error on Cech nor would I for a ball that hits the post and comes off his back.....and please explain to me how the second goal is an error on Cech.......but I'll grant it to you for argument's sake because you seem desparate) You think ANY MANAGER in the WORLD (except y'all beloved arsene9, of course....and maybe not even him) putting almunia in goal ahead of Petr Cech?! Even with, by general consensus, a petr Cech whose skill seems to have diminished some since he get that metal plate placed in hes head, he is still head and shoulders above anything arsenal has put in goal, going back to David "It's a bird, it's a plane...oops! It's a free-kick" Seaman. Listen....allyuh better hope almunia doh draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag allyuh stones against liverpool
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 13, 2009, 09:08:21 AM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
OK.....so almunia has never made 3 errors on three set pieces (if you can really call them that. I wouldn't credit Drogba's header off Saha's back to an error on Cech nor would I for a ball that hits the post and comes off his back.....and please explain to me how the second goal is an error on Cech.......but I'll grant it to you for argument's sake because you seem desparate) You think ANY MANAGER in the WORLD (except y'all beloved arsene9, of course....and maybe not even him) putting almunia in goal ahead of Petr Cech?! Even with, by general consensus, a petr Cech whose skill seems to have diminished some since he get that metal plate placed in hes head, he is still head and shoulders above anything arsenal has put in goal, going back to David "It's a bird, it's a plane...oops! It's a free-kick" Seaman. Listen....allyuh better hope almunia doh draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag allyuh stones against liverpooltomorrowthis mawnin'.
ahahahahaha sour grapes and just incase yuh wondering arsenal were signing cech when he was under21 but he didnt play enough games for ceh rep to get work permit, and yes all were his fault he flopped about like an idiot, failed to claim a ball that left drogba to poorly clear and off the post he got a finger to it but failed to push it round the post, so yeah all his fault ahahahah
Post by: Blue on December 13, 2009, 09:17:33 AM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
OK.....so almunia has never made 3 errors on three set pieces (if you can really call them that. I wouldn't credit Drogba's header off Saha's back to an error on Cech nor would I for a ball that hits the post and comes off his back.....and please explain to me how the second goal is an error on Cech.......but I'll grant it to you for argument's sake because you seem desparate) You think ANY MANAGER in the WORLD (except y'all beloved arsene9, of course....and maybe not even him) putting almunia in goal ahead of Petr Cech?! Even with, by general consensus, a petr Cech whose skill seems to have diminished some since he get that metal plate placed in hes head, he is still head and shoulders above anything arsenal has put in goal, going back to David "It's a bird, it's a plane...oops! It's a free-kick" Seaman. Listen....allyuh better hope almunia doh draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag allyuh stones against liverpooltomorrowthis mawnin'.
ahahahahaha sour grapes and just incase yuh wondering arsenal were signing cech when he was under21 but he didnt play enough games for ceh rep to get work permit, and yes all were his fault he flopped about like an idiot, failed to claim a ball that left drogba to poorly clear and off the post he got a finger to it but failed to push it round the post, so yeah all his fault ahahahah
go back in yuh own thread and discuss fourth place nah dread. :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
OK.....so almunia has never made 3 errors on three set pieces (if you can really call them that. I wouldn't credit Drogba's header off Saha's back to an error on Cech nor would I for a ball that hits the post and comes off his back.....and please explain to me how the second goal is an error on Cech.......but I'll grant it to you for argument's sake because you seem desparate) You think ANY MANAGER in the WORLD (except y'all beloved arsene9, of course....and maybe not even him) putting almunia in goal ahead of Petr Cech?! Even with, by general consensus, a petr Cech whose skill seems to have diminished some since he get that metal plate placed in hes head, he is still head and shoulders above anything arsenal has put in goal, going back to David "It's a bird, it's a plane...oops! It's a free-kick" Seaman. Listen....allyuh better hope almunia doh draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag allyuh stones against liverpooltomorrowthis mawnin'.
ahahahahaha sour grapes and just incase yuh wondering arsenal were signing cech when he was under21 but he didnt play enough games for ceh rep to get work permit, and yes all were his fault he flopped about like an idiot, failed to claim a ball that left drogba to poorly clear and off the post he got a finger to it but failed to push it round the post, so yeah all his fault ahahahah
Sour grapes?!?! What sour grapes?! I arkse you a legitimate ? jed....but you seem like an emotionally disturbed teenager...... but let meh school yuh on something: not every time a 'keeper get he hand to a ball that scored that it makes the goal "his fault". The placement of that header was one that is clinical and is supposed to give any 'keeper a hard time....now I felt Cech made a half-hearted dive at the ball but that may have everything to do with (I think) the ball got a deflection off another player and may have put him a little flat-footed...plus he had to be careful not to crash into the post.....as far as the second goal is concerned (you excluded that one in your response but still claimed "all" the goals were Cech's fault) the goal scorer was gifted the ball at his feet and wheeled around and blasted it in the net from about, what, six yards out? How is that Cech's fault? Almunia was saving that? Jesus was saving that? As for that last, unfortunate freak accident of a goal.....a goalkeeper doesn't always have to come and claim every ball that most non-keepers like to think they have to. If the ball is coming in at a pace that would make it difficult for him to get to AND there is already a teammate in place to clear the ball, he can opt to let that teammate do what would be the natural thing to do in that situation: in this case, Drogba did just that in trying to clear the ball. Without hearing the action on the field, it seems as though he initially thought he could get to it, but left it for Drogba, hence the reason he made the initial motion to come off his line for it...it didn't seem as though he called Drogba off the ball so. The ball just happened to rebound off a man back as Drogba headed it out....not sure how you could want to lay "blame" at anybody's feet for that. My point is, whether Cech is not the same as he was 4 years ago, whether arsenal was trying to get him or not (who cares? He's with Chelsea now....PLUS you seem to be all too happy with almunia anyway) he is STILL far better than anything y'all have in the goalkeeping department. So, you know what.....Cech having a bad day at the office still makes him and his his defense the lowest conceding team in the epl......over the last 5 seasons or so. And they have won trophies for it. Dem grapes could only be sour in your mouth!
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 13, 2009, 12:03:30 PM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
OK.....so almunia has never made 3 errors on three set pieces (if you can really call them that. I wouldn't credit Drogba's header off Saha's back to an error on Cech nor would I for a ball that hits the post and comes off his back.....and please explain to me how the second goal is an error on Cech.......but I'll grant it to you for argument's sake because you seem desparate) You think ANY MANAGER in the WORLD (except y'all beloved arsene9, of course....and maybe not even him) putting almunia in goal ahead of Petr Cech?! Even with, by general consensus, a petr Cech whose skill seems to have diminished some since he get that metal plate placed in hes head, he is still head and shoulders above anything arsenal has put in goal, going back to David "It's a bird, it's a plane...oops! It's a free-kick" Seaman. Listen....allyuh better hope almunia doh draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag allyuh stones against liverpooltomorrowthis mawnin'.
ahahahahaha sour grapes and just incase yuh wondering arsenal were signing cech when he was under21 but he didnt play enough games for ceh rep to get work permit, and yes all were his fault he flopped about like an idiot, failed to claim a ball that left drogba to poorly clear and off the post he got a finger to it but failed to push it round the post, so yeah all his fault ahahahah
Sour grapes?!?! What sour grapes?! I arkse you a legitimate ? jed....but you seem like an emotionally disturbed teenager...... but let meh school yuh on something: not every time a 'keeper get he hand to a ball that scored that it makes the goal "his fault". The placement of that header was one that is clinical and is supposed to give any 'keeper a hard time....now I felt Cech made a half-hearted dive at the ball but that may have everything to do with (I think) the ball got a deflection off another player and may have put him a little flat-footed...plus he had to be careful not to crash into the post.....as far as the second goal is concerned (you excluded that one in your response but still claimed "all" the goals were Cech's fault) the goal scorer was gifted the ball at his feet and wheeled around and blasted it in the net from about, what, six yards out? How is that Cech's fault? Almunia was saving that? Jesus was saving that? As for that last, unfortunate freak accident of a goal.....a goalkeeper doesn't always have to come and claim every ball that most non-keepers like to think they have to. If the ball is coming in at a pace that would make it difficult for him to get to AND there is already a teammate in place to clear the ball, he can opt to let that teammate do what would be the natural thing to do in that situation: in this case, Drogba did just that in trying to clear the ball. Without hearing the action on the field, it seems as though he initially thought he could get to it, but left it for Drogba, hence the reason he made the initial motion to come off his line for it...it didn't seem as though he called Drogba off the ball so. The ball just happened to rebound off a man back as Drogba headed it out....not sure how you could want to lay "blame" at anybody's feet for that. My point is, whether Cech is not the same as he was 4 years ago, whether arsenal was trying to get him or not (who cares? He's with Chelsea now....PLUS you seem to be all too happy with almunia anyway) he is STILL far better than anything y'all have in the goalkeeping department. So, you know what.....Cech having a bad day at the office still makes him and his his defense the lowest conceding team in the epl......over the last 5 seasons or so. And they have won trophies for it. Dem grapes could only be sour in your mouth!
ahahahahahaha i not even bothering to read yuh reply, almunia do shite fuh pool only goal, but he didn't make 3 mistakes hahahahahahahahaha
fight it down fight it down
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2009, 12:06:38 PM
almunia never made three errors on three set pieces in a row in d same gamethank god for drogba eh chelski?
thank god for cech? :rotfl:
It could be worse....we could have almunia. Thank God we DON'T!!!
:rotfl: ent!. Drogba in the form of his life if he stays healthy look out WC 2010.
and pray drogba doh get injured in ACN
OK.....so almunia has never made 3 errors on three set pieces (if you can really call them that. I wouldn't credit Drogba's header off Saha's back to an error on Cech nor would I for a ball that hits the post and comes off his back.....and please explain to me how the second goal is an error on Cech.......but I'll grant it to you for argument's sake because you seem desparate) You think ANY MANAGER in the WORLD (except y'all beloved arsene9, of course....and maybe not even him) putting almunia in goal ahead of Petr Cech?! Even with, by general consensus, a petr Cech whose skill seems to have diminished some since he get that metal plate placed in hes head, he is still head and shoulders above anything arsenal has put in goal, going back to David "It's a bird, it's a plane...oops! It's a free-kick" Seaman. Listen....allyuh better hope almunia doh draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag allyuh stones against liverpooltomorrowthis mawnin'.
ahahahahaha sour grapes and just incase yuh wondering arsenal were signing cech when he was under21 but he didnt play enough games for ceh rep to get work permit, and yes all were his fault he flopped about like an idiot, failed to claim a ball that left drogba to poorly clear and off the post he got a finger to it but failed to push it round the post, so yeah all his fault ahahahah
Sour grapes?!?! What sour grapes?! I arkse you a legitimate ? jed....but you seem like an emotionally disturbed teenager...... but let meh school yuh on something: not every time a 'keeper get he hand to a ball that scored that it makes the goal "his fault". The placement of that header was one that is clinical and is supposed to give any 'keeper a hard time....now I felt Cech made a half-hearted dive at the ball but that may have everything to do with (I think) the ball got a deflection off another player and may have put him a little flat-footed...plus he had to be careful not to crash into the post.....as far as the second goal is concerned (you excluded that one in your response but still claimed "all" the goals were Cech's fault) the goal scorer was gifted the ball at his feet and wheeled around and blasted it in the net from about, what, six yards out? How is that Cech's fault? Almunia was saving that? Jesus was saving that? As for that last, unfortunate freak accident of a goal.....a goalkeeper doesn't always have to come and claim every ball that most non-keepers like to think they have to. If the ball is coming in at a pace that would make it difficult for him to get to AND there is already a teammate in place to clear the ball, he can opt to let that teammate do what would be the natural thing to do in that situation: in this case, Drogba did just that in trying to clear the ball. Without hearing the action on the field, it seems as though he initially thought he could get to it, but left it for Drogba, hence the reason he made the initial motion to come off his line for it...it didn't seem as though he called Drogba off the ball so. The ball just happened to rebound off a man back as Drogba headed it out....not sure how you could want to lay "blame" at anybody's feet for that. My point is, whether Cech is not the same as he was 4 years ago, whether arsenal was trying to get him or not (who cares? He's with Chelsea now....PLUS you seem to be all too happy with almunia anyway) he is STILL far better than anything y'all have in the goalkeeping department. So, you know what.....Cech having a bad day at the office still makes him and his his defense the lowest conceding team in the epl......over the last 5 seasons or so. And they have won trophies for it. Dem grapes could only be sour in your mouth!
ahahahahahaha i not even bothering to read yuh reply, almunia do shite fuh pool only goal, but he didn't make 3 mistakes hahahahahahahahaha
fight it down fight it down
No scene.....you're doing well to even respond to anything beyond pictures, given your obvious short attention span. But, arsenal still in third place right now. They NOT winning anything this season.
Post by: WestCoast on December 20, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
Drogs takin ah freekick.......hits the walls
wha de arse...went an get ah coffee and come back to 1-0
West Ham Boi...as is christmas day playin good
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 20, 2009, 01:17:43 PM
Post by: elan on December 20, 2009, 02:18:23 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 20, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
We really playing the fool, if this come back to bite we in de arse we look for it. Chance to go two game clear and we messing.
Yeah, jed. I did done write off this game arready....even fall asleep before it start only to wake up at the half......even AFTER the ref make Lampard re-re-retake the penalty I thought we mighta scored again......like the commentators said, we really missin' Essien. What they didn't say, though, is that Ballack playin' a setta SHIT!
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 21, 2009, 10:02:13 AM
We really playing the fool, if this come back to bite we in de arse we look for it. Chance to go two game clear and we messing.
Yeah, jed. I did done write off this game arready....even fall asleep before it start only to wake up at the half......even AFTER the ref make Lampard re-re-retake the penalty I thought we mighta scored again......like the commentators said, we really missin' Essien. What they didn't say, though, is that Ballack playin' a setta SHIT!
This is the third game in a row Ballack been sub par. I wonder wha goin on wit him in troot. I din see de game but one thing I've noticed is that the team doesn't play with the same level of inspiration and quality when Deco on the field. The 2 who seem to suffer the most with Deco at CAM appear to be Lampard and Ballack. Can't understand why considering his pedigree but I been noticing this going on fuh sometime now.
Post by: kicker on December 21, 2009, 10:11:27 AM
This is the third game in a row Ballack been sub par. I wonder wha goin on wit him in troot. I din see de game but one thing I've noticed is that the team doesn't play with the same level of inspiration and quality when Deco on the field. The 2 who seem to suffer the most with Deco at CAM appear to be Lampard and Ballack. Can't understand why considering his pedigree but I been noticing this going on fuh sometime now.
Ballack been past his shelf life for a while now...Since Euro 2008 last summer he was sh*ttin' on his tail. Technically gifted & physically capable still, but no where near the feared deadly player he was at the beginning of the decade.
Post by: dinho on December 21, 2009, 10:12:16 AM
The game yesterday, in all fairness West Ham play real hard and wasn't giving Chelsea any space to operate in midfield. Credit where credit is due and they couldve stolen it at the end if Cech didnt save a Franco bullet header. Too bad, wouldve been nice to go 6 pts clear with the other sides slipping up..
Allyuh doh sleep on Aston Villa.
Post by: kicker on December 21, 2009, 11:08:25 AM
The sour part is that it look like they earmarking Ballack for the CDM role when Obi Mikel and Essien head off to the african nations.. I find he does look kinda clueless there, maybe it might make sense to give Beletti a try.
The game yesterday, in all fairness West Ham play real hard and wasn't giving Chelsea any space to operate in midfield. Credit where credit is due and they couldve stolen it at the end if Cech didnt save a Franco bullet header. Too bad, wouldve been nice to go 6 pts clear with the other sides slipping up..
Allyuh doh sleep on Aston Villa.
A.Villa question mark is their depth...Their starting XI has some under the radar talent.... Their game is built on the two racehorses- Agbonlahor (sp?) & Young, two decently skilled players- Milner and Petrov, Dunne keeping it together in the hole, and an effective big man up top - Carew.... Any injuries, and inevitable fatigue that will set in at season end, will be tough for them because I kinda doubt they have the depth on the bench to give those fellas a breather.
Post by: dwn on December 21, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
A.Villa question mark is their depth...Their starting XI has some under the radar talent.... Their game is built on the two racehorses- Agbonlahor (sp?) & Young, two decently skilled players- Milner and Petrov, Dunne keeping it together in the hole, and an effective big man up top - Carew.... Any injuries, and inevitable fatigue that will set in at season end, will be tough for them because I kinda doubt they have the depth on the bench to give those fellas a breather.
Pretty much what happened last season when they faded in the end.
Post by: dinho on December 21, 2009, 01:17:47 PM
if you watch the side this year they have more depth than last season.. They have Curtis Davies, Collins and Cuellar giving depth behind Dunne in the central defence.. At wing back they playing Warnock and Beye now but they still have Luke Young, Shorey and Bouma coming back.. And in midfield they have Downing to cover for the wings, plus they could rotate Heskey and Carew up top.. This wasn't the case last year.
I feel they could make a good run this year if O'Neill manage the resources properly.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 21, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
The sour part is that it look like they earmarking Ballack for the CDM role when Obi Mikel and Essien head off to the african nations.. I find he does look kinda clueless there, maybe it might make sense to give Beletti a try.
The game yesterday, in all fairness West Ham play real hard and wasn't giving Chelsea any space to operate in midfield. Credit where credit is due and they couldve stolen it at the end if Cech didnt save a Franco bullet header. Too bad, wouldve been nice to go 6 pts clear with the other sides slipping up..
Allyuh doh sleep on Aston Villa.
He could handle it when he playin right, unfortunately he's in a spell of poor form. Beletti is an option but despite Ballack's current form I rather him in the hole. Deco ha to come off de bench fuh it to work doh, cause he killin chemistry. Maybe Zirkov might finally get some run, I curious to see wha he ha to offer. As fuh AV, Oneill know bout and has begun to address the depth issues so I expect them to be fresher down de stretch dis time around. Last season he used a combined total of around 20 players through all competitions, while big 4 teams used around 30 and he spoke on it before the saeason so I expect he better prepared now than before.
Post by: kicker on December 21, 2009, 10:38:21 PM
The sour part is that it look like they earmarking Ballack for the CDM role when Obi Mikel and Essien head off to the african nations.. I find he does look kinda clueless there, maybe it might make sense to give Beletti a try.
The game yesterday, in all fairness West Ham play real hard and wasn't giving Chelsea any space to operate in midfield. Credit where credit is due and they couldve stolen it at the end if Cech didnt save a Franco bullet header. Too bad, wouldve been nice to go 6 pts clear with the other sides slipping up..
Allyuh doh sleep on Aston Villa.
He could handle it when he playin right, unfortunately he's in a spell of poor form.
Spell yuh say? Ballack looks like he's approaching the twilight of his career dread. He will always be an asset because of his technique, but I wouldn't say this is a spell of poor form...I'd say this is where his game has dropped off to...In all fairness it's not that bad- just players of his pedigree will always be held to a higher standard.
In his current state, even in good form- He's not as capable as Essien in that position, and the difference will be visible....Essien right now is heads and shoulders over anyone else in the midfield hole...(admittedly including meh boy Lass)...form notwithstanding.
Post by: Blue on December 22, 2009, 04:36:46 AM
The sour part is that it look like they earmarking Ballack for the CDM role when Obi Mikel and Essien head off to the african nations.. I find he does look kinda clueless there, maybe it might make sense to give Beletti a try.
The game yesterday, in all fairness West Ham play real hard and wasn't giving Chelsea any space to operate in midfield. Credit where credit is due and they couldve stolen it at the end if Cech didnt save a Franco bullet header. Too bad, wouldve been nice to go 6 pts clear with the other sides slipping up..
Allyuh doh sleep on Aston Villa.
He could handle it when he playin right, unfortunately he's in a spell of poor form.
Spell yuh say? Ballack looks like he's approaching the twilight of his career dread. He will always be an asset because of his technique, but I wouldn't say this is a spell of poor form...I'd say this is where his game has dropped off to...In all fairness it's not that bad- just players of his pedigree will always be held to a higher standard.
In his current state, even in good form- He's not as capable as Essien in that position, and the difference will be visible....Essien right now is heads and shoulders over anyone else in the midfield hole...(admittedly including meh boy Lass)...form notwithstanding.
Ballack was great for us at the start of the season, he's just had a few poor games. I would put that down to Essien being missing, and Ballack having to play in a deeper role than he would ideally want to. Noone in the world is as capable as Essien in the DM position so comparison to Essien is not fair, especially for someone who is not a natural DM.
Earlier in the season he and Lampard were terrorising defences because they had such a good understanding going forward (which would have been even more prolific had Deco not been there to salt down d place). When Ballack sits deeper that connection is obviously lost.
Beletti will probably play as the DM when African Nations starts, but I find he is rubbish. I would prefer they start givin Matic a lil run now to see whether he is capable.
Post by: kicker on December 22, 2009, 07:48:44 AM
Even at what I consider to be the downward slope of his career, Ballack is a "big" player, and will always be crucial especially in big games where teams rely on experienced generals...
Just saying that his quality has dropped off significantly in my opinion over the past year & a half or so.....maybe on top of that he's had a temporary drop in form as well...just saying....
...I'd go with Ballack over Beletti in the hole though...Not too confident in Beletti other than in wide positions.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 24, 2009, 11:45:42 PM
The sour part is that it look like they earmarking Ballack for the CDM role when Obi Mikel and Essien head off to the african nations.. I find he does look kinda clueless there, maybe it might make sense to give Beletti a try.
The game yesterday, in all fairness West Ham play real hard and wasn't giving Chelsea any space to operate in midfield. Credit where credit is due and they couldve stolen it at the end if Cech didnt save a Franco bullet header. Too bad, wouldve been nice to go 6 pts clear with the other sides slipping up..
Allyuh doh sleep on Aston Villa.
He could handle it when he playin right, unfortunately he's in a spell of poor form.
Spell yuh say? Ballack looks like he's approaching the twilight of his career dread. He will always be an asset because of his technique, but I wouldn't say this is a spell of poor form...I'd say this is where his game has dropped off to...In all fairness it's not that bad- just players of his pedigree will always be held to a higher standard.
In his current state, even in good form- He's not as capable as Essien in that position, and the difference will be visible....Essien right now is heads and shoulders over anyone else in the midfield hole...(admittedly including meh boy Lass)...form notwithstanding.
The problem is, though, that he was brought here for his pedigree and the team needs him to play up to it. He really has not contributed as much as is needed of him since coming to Chelsea and that can't cut it. Drogba can get away with a poor game (especially) if he pounces on a scoring opportunity or two. Ballack, on the other hand, needs to be a much stronger force and physical prescence in the attacking midfield and to be a lot more than a thug foul waiting to happen.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 26, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
Post by: Daft Trini on December 26, 2009, 11:55:56 AM
WTF?!?! :cursing: First, is a 1-all draw with West Ham last week, now a nil-nil affair with Birmingham this weekend......If Chelsea come back and lose this EPL this season, they have no one to blame but themselves.......and next season they need to lay off the "ham" for Christmas! Evidently, dem and pork doh agree! Steups!!
Yuh worried....
Big Side is Big Side.... keep dropping points...!
Post by: Blue on December 26, 2009, 01:48:06 PM
WTF?!?! :cursing: First, is a 1-all draw with West Ham last week, now a nil-nil affair with Birmingham this weekend......If Chelsea come back and lose this EPL this season, they have no one to blame but themselves.......and next season they need to lay off the "ham" for Christmas! Evidently, dem and pork doh agree! Steups!!
Not a great result, but Birmingham are a good side defensively, so perhaps a point isn't a disaster. Ancelotti wanted to give Sturridge a sweat in preparation for the next 5 weeks. The problem is Sturridge is $h!t, he spends way too much time on the ball and is a poor finisher. And if you haven't seen Borini yet, he is $h!t too. But the main thing is we will still be 2 points clear by tomorrow evening and hopefully Anelka will be back against Fulham, and Joe Cole will definitely start.
I would prefer we play a 4-5-1 with Anelka upfront and Joe Cole and Malouda as wingers during African Nations, but I guess dat cant happen against Fulham with Malouda on a ban now.
Post by: big dawg on December 28, 2009, 11:15:32 AM
With Anelka unfit, it wont get any easier with Drogba, Obi Mikel and Kalou out for the ANC...we clearly got defensive problems no doubth. And with ancolotti say he not dipping in the Transfer window come January..
Boy do we have work to do...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2009, 11:20:19 AM
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Post by: dinho on December 28, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
yuh smoking grass or what?
chelsea was all over that side in the second half, was constant pressure. This fulham side is very difficult to break down, a very well coached side and a derby fixture so this was a very big, much needed win.
hopefully it gives the impetus to press on, looking for Anelka and Sturridge to pick up the slack in January.
Post by: Blue on December 28, 2009, 02:04:02 PM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Fulham are a good side, remember how they bulled yall?
3 points, 1st place, nothing else matters.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Fulham are a good side, remember how they bulled yall?
3 points, 1st place, nothing else matters.
how about working on your loyality... inter avatar?
f**king rentboy
Post by: Blue on December 28, 2009, 02:35:20 PM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Fulham are a good side, remember how they bulled yall?
3 points, 1st place, nothing else matters.
how about working on your loyality... inter avatar?
f**king rentboy
how about I just support my local team who happens to be the best team in Europe. And when Inter visit in March, I will leave d stadium happy, since one of my teams will definitely be through to the quarters ;)
Stop hating. If you're lookin for a rentboy I cant help you wid dat....try Manchester, they got bull by Fulham not once, not twice, but three times...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2009, 02:48:50 PM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Fulham are a good side, remember how they bulled yall?
3 points, 1st place, nothing else matters.
how about working on your loyality... inter avatar?
f**king rentboy
how about I just support my local team who happens to be the best team in Europe. And when Inter visit in March, I will leave d stadium happy, since one of my teams will definitely be through to the quarters ;)
Stop hating. If you're lookin for a rentboy I cant help you wid dat....try Manchester, they got bull by Fulham not once, not twice, but three times...
you are such a plastic f**k..you don't even know what a Chelsea rentboy is
2 teams...pathetic
Post by: Blue on December 28, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Fulham are a good side, remember how they bulled yall?
3 points, 1st place, nothing else matters.
how about working on your loyality... inter avatar?
f**king rentboy
how about I just support my local team who happens to be the best team in Europe. And when Inter visit in March, I will leave d stadium happy, since one of my teams will definitely be through to the quarters ;)
Stop hating. If you're lookin for a rentboy I cant help you wid dat....try Manchester, they got bull by Fulham not once, not twice, but three times...
you are such a plastic f**k..you don't even know what a Chelsea rentboy is
2 teams...pathetic
I would ask you what a Chelsea rentboy or a plastic f**k is, but neither of dem sound like anything I would be interested in. No doubt iz sumthin you read about on de internet.
Good luck against whoever yall are playin tomorrow :thumbsup:
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
Fulham are a good side, remember how they bulled yall?
3 points, 1st place, nothing else matters.
how about working on your loyality... inter avatar?
f**king rentboy
how about I just support my local team who happens to be the best team in Europe. And when Inter visit in March, I will leave d stadium happy, since one of my teams will definitely be through to the quarters ;)
Stop hating. If you're lookin for a rentboy I cant help you wid dat....try Manchester, they got bull by Fulham not once, not twice, but three times...
you are such a plastic f**k..you don't even know what a Chelsea rentboy is
2 teams...pathetic
I would ask you what a Chelsea rentboy or a plastic f**k is, but neither of dem sound like anything I would be interested in. No doubt iz sumthin you read about on de internet.
Good luck against whoever yall are playin tomorrow :thumbsup:
haha word
:beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 29, 2009, 07:56:43 AM
WTF?!?! :cursing: First, is a 1-all draw with West Ham last week, now a nil-nil affair with Birmingham this weekend......If Chelsea come back and lose this EPL this season, they have no one to blame but themselves.......and next season they need to lay off the "ham" for Christmas! Evidently, dem and pork doh agree! Steups!!
Yuh worried....
Big Side is Big Side.... keep dropping points...!
Nah, Breds, Worried isn't de word......vex is more like it.
De only team that Chelsea have to face that could ever "worry" me is Barca.....and Ize a Barca fan anyway so I would be in meh glee in dat matchup.
Post by: elan on December 30, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
totally undeserved
When the African contingent depart and Anelka injured maybe some points will be dropped but the schedule seems easy while everyone is away.....unfortunately
btw I hate Drogba
SAF will be glad to trade 3 of his top players for Drogba right now though.
What have your Bebrbatov done for you lately?
Where the river of goals from useless Roonay?
Post by: elan on January 04, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
Post by: Blue on January 08, 2010, 03:47:50 PM
Post by: big dawg on January 16, 2010, 12:48:38 PM
so let me bring it back to page 1. ;D
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 16, 2010, 01:43:30 PM
I just find that this thread should NOT be on page 2 after the scoreline today....
so let me bring it back to page 1. ;D
:beermug: :beermug:
dat was licks today boy. waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzz!
Post by: Observer on January 16, 2010, 01:56:05 PM
Post by: elan on January 16, 2010, 02:09:45 PM
Post by: WestCoast on January 16, 2010, 02:35:04 PM
shithongs :devil:
Post by: Babalawo on January 16, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Chelsea's Florent Malouda shows support for Haiti and Yele.
http://twitpic.com/ydkm1
Post by: lefty on January 16, 2010, 06:21:17 PM
We don't post when we blazing people. ::)
look how easy dat one throw ;D
Post by: samo on January 16, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Post by: dinho on January 18, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/8464319.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/8464319.stm)
By Piers Edwards
BBC Sport, Luanda, Angola
Michael Essien has been ruled out of the Africa Cup of Nations
Ghana midfielder Michael Essien is out of the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations after suffering a knee injury in training.
The Chelsea star could also miss Premier League and Champions League matches after he suffered a partially torn medial ligament in his left knee.
Scans revealed he also suffered damage to his meniscus when sustaining the injury on Sunday morning.
Ghana's team doctor believes the injury will keep the 27-year-old out for at least a month and perhaps longer.
The news will come as a blow to both Chelsea's Premier League title aspirations as well as Ghanaian hopes of reaching the quarter-finals.
The Black Stars had been desperate to field Essien for Tuesday's must-win Group B tie against Burkina Faso in Luanda but he can only walk with the aid of crutches.
"This is a big blow because Michael is so important to our team," striker Matthew Amoah told BBC Sport.
"We've lost the motor in our midfield, and this is very bad."
The Chelsea man only returned to training on 6 January, having not played since tearing his hamstring while on Champions League duty with his English club in early December.
The hamstring problem meant Essien failed to start Friday's 3-1 defeat by the Ivory Coast, coming on a second half substitute for the clash in Cabinda.
He was stretchered off in that game before returning to the action, but his injury woes returned in full on Sunday morning.
"Michael was turning to make a pass when he just went down," midfielder Anthony Annan told BBC Sport.
"There was no contact from any other player but those around him say they heard a click, and then the physios rushed over."
Essien was ferried to hospital in an ambulance as he went for an MRI scan in Luanda on Sunday.
He becomes the latest of Ghana's key men to suffer injury, with John Pantsil, John Mensah, Laryea Kingston and Stephen Appiah all ruled out before the tournament.
If Ghana fail to beat the Burkinabe on Tuesday, the World Cup finalists will exit the Nations Cup.
Ivory Coast have already qualified from Group B, with four points from two games, while Burkina Faso have one point and Ghana none.
After Togo's withdrawal from the competition following the gun attack on their bus, Group B was reduced to three teams and just three matches.
Post by: elan on January 27, 2010, 04:28:19 PM
Post by: dinho on January 27, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
you were missed.. well... not really!
Post by: Blue on January 27, 2010, 04:30:57 PM
Welcome back Drogba..
who?
Post by: Blue on January 29, 2010, 11:30:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1247064/John-Terry-named-footballer-alleged-affair-team-mates-girlfriend.html#ixzz0e1VtLequ
John Terry today faces serious questions about his role as England captain after he was named as the star having an alleged affair with a team-mate’s girlfriend.
The Chelsea skipper is claimed to have cheated behind his wife's back. The England captain married Toni Poole in 2007.
Terry had won a gagging order stopping the public learning about his alleged affair but the injunction was lifted today.
Terry's so-called ‘super-injunction’ was granted by a High Court judge under human rights laws. He had successfully claimed that exposing his alleged infidelity would be a breach of his right to a ‘private and family life’.
The judge, Mr Justice Tugendhat, lifted the injunction on Friday afternoon, saying: 'I do not consider that an interim injunction is necessary or proportionate having regard to the level of gravity of the interference with the private life of the applicant that would occur in the event that there is a publication of the fact of the relationship, or that [the applicant] can rely in this case on the interference with the private life of anyone else.
Mr Justice Tugendhat granted the interim order to lawyers acting for LNS - as Terry is identified on court papers - at a private hearing in London last Friday. He said that it should remain in force until he delivered his decision on the application, which he gave in writing today.
Premier League star wins gagging order over secret affair with team-mate's girlfriendThe order covered the fact of a specified personal relationship between Terry, who is married with twins, and the named person, details about it including certain specific consequences, information leading to the identification of Terry or the other person and any photographs relating to it.
Giving his reasons for refusing to renew the injunction, the judge said: 'I accept that the information sought to be protected is not in the public domain in the sense that there is nothing left to be protected.
'But the evidence is that there has been wide circulation amongst those involved in the sport in question, including agents and others, and not just amongst those directly engaged in the sport.
'If the injunction ought otherwise be granted, I would not refuse it on this basis. But the fact that the information has become as widely available to so many people, means that an injunction is less necessary or proportionate than would otherwise be the case.
'Further, if - as I think likely - the real concern of the applicant in this case is the effect of publication upon the sponsorship business, then damages would be an adequate remedy if Terry succeeds at trial.'
It is the latest scandal to emerge surrounding Terry. In December, he was exposed for organising a secret tour of Chelsea’s training ground, apparently in exchange for a £10,000 cash payment that was made in the staff canteen.
Terry, who was accompanied by well-known ticket tout Tony Bruce, told undercover reporters from the News of the World that the arrangements for the tour had to be kept secret for fear that the club would ‘find out’.
‘If anything ever goes wrong, then you say “John didn’t know nothing about that”,’ Bruce told the reporters who secretly filmed the visit.
That incident cam shortly after Sportsmail revealed that Terry had enlisted the help of a marketing company, Riviera Entertainment Limited, to cash in on the England captain’s armband, prompting one FA official to say he had made himself look ‘greedy’.
‘John Terry is available to create effective brand awareness and endorse products and services globally,’ said the email that used the official FIFA World Cup logo without permission and, much to the surprise of Stamford Bridge officials, used an image of Terry in a Chelsea strip.
It then reminded potentially interested parties that ‘John Terry is: British sporting hero; England’s football captain; World Cup 2018 ambassador; Football icon; Dad of the year 2008; Voted as one of the World’s most influencial (sic) people.’
Even though Riviera claimed to have a contractual agreement with him, Terry issued a statement saying the email had been circulated without his permission.
In March last year, Terry's mum and mother-in-law were allegedly caught shoplifting £800-worth of clothes and food from Marks & Spencer and Tesco.
There was further family scandal in November when Terry's father was caught selling drugs. Ted Terry allegdly organised a deal to supply undercover News of the World reporters with cocaine.
Along with his two Premier League medals, Terry also won the 2008 Dad of the Year award after a survey carried out by Daddies Sauce.
Post by: lefty on January 29, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Post by: elan on January 30, 2010, 01:25:47 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 31, 2010, 07:44:59 AM
Made hard work it, but a win is a win. Ballack should be fined.
What he do this time? Ah miss de game......
Post by: dinho on January 31, 2010, 12:18:33 PM
Made hard work it, but a win is a win. Ballack should be fined.
What he do this time? Ah miss de game......
Sometimes I does wonder if this man does collect his paycheck with a clear conscience.
Post by: Blue on January 31, 2010, 12:37:53 PM
Post by: elan on January 31, 2010, 12:53:11 PM
why all de hate for Ballack? he was playin in a relatively unfamiliar defensive midfield role and did alright yesterday....what's the problem?
Ballack was off the pace big time. The play keep passing him, he made a lot of bad passes, defensively he was a liability. I don't know what's wrong with him. There is no way he can captain Germany.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 01, 2010, 06:51:53 AM
why all de hate for Ballack? he was playin in a relatively unfamiliar defensive midfield role and did alright yesterday....what's the problem?
Ballack was off the pace big time. The play keep passing him, he made a lot of bad passes, defensively he was a liability. I don't know what's wrong with him. There is no way he can captain Germany.
Elan! Yuh eh learn yuh tenses in school or wha?! ;D How de hell you go say "...defensively he was a liability..."? Whatever happened to the present continuous and future perfect?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 01, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
why all de hate for Ballack? he was playin in a relatively unfamiliar defensive midfield role and did alright yesterday....what's the problem?
Ballack was off the pace big time. The play keep passing him, he made a lot of bad passes, defensively he was a liability. I don't know what's wrong with him. There is no way he can captain Germany.
Well Considering hes a natural CAM and plays that position for Germany I truly doubt there are any issues hindering his captaincy of Deutschland. As for Saturday he wasn't great but then again I doubt youd have a sparkling Lampard, Malouda or Deco playing CDM so all things relative I think yuh overreacting
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 02, 2010, 03:43:21 PM
well I guess the rent boys are even more shit....1-1 FT
Race blown wide open
United can go top vs Pompey at Old Trafford on Saturday...then Chelsea play Arsenal the next day...gotta love the EPL
Post by: Blue on February 02, 2010, 04:06:44 PM
I thought when Rooney scored 4 vs Hull that they were a shit side etc etc etc
well I guess the rent boys are even more shit....1-1 FT
Race blown wide open
United can go top vs Pompey at Old Trafford on Saturday...then Chelsea play Arsenal the next day...gotta love the EPL
The best thing about being second is that you always have something to aspire to. I like your spirit :thumbsup:
Two points dropped at the Bridge all season... don't worry we'll keep Arsenal off your backs :chilling:
Post by: elan on February 02, 2010, 04:15:22 PM
I thought when Rooney scored 4 vs Hull that they were a shit side etc etc etc
well I guess the rent boys are even more shit....1-1 FT
Race blown wide open
United can go top vs Pompey at Old Trafford on Saturday...then Chelsea play Arsenal the next day...gotta love the EPL
Hahahhaaaa....look at you.............
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 03, 2010, 09:59:28 AM
I thought when Rooney scored 4 vs Hull that they were a shit side etc etc etc
well I guess the rent boys are even more shit....1-1 FT
Race blown wide open
United can go top vs Pompey at Old Trafford on Saturday...then Chelsea play Arsenal the next day...gotta love the EPL
You could talk da kinda shit when allyuh went an leh Burnley beat allyuh shit side?! Yu eh shame?
Post by: Andre on February 03, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-harkes-wynalda&prov=ap&type=lgns
NEW YORK (AP)—Breaking more than a decade of silence, former U.S. soccer coach Steve Sampson said Tuesday he dropped John Harkes from the national team roster two months before the 1998 World Cup because the American captain was having an affair with the wife of teammate Eric Wynalda.
Post by: Blue on February 03, 2010, 02:18:04 PM
I thought when Rooney scored 4 vs Hull that they were a shit side etc etc etc
well I guess the rent boys are even more shit....1-1 FT
Race blown wide open
United can go top vs Pompey at Old Trafford on Saturday...then Chelsea play Arsenal the next day...gotta love the EPL
You could talk da kinda shit when allyuh went an leh Burnley beat allyuh shit side?! Yu eh shame?
doh study him...he is a voyeur
Post by: dinho on February 04, 2010, 11:54:01 AM
Court lifts Chelsea transfer ban over Kakuta signing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8499169.stm
Chelsea have had their transfer ban lifted by the Court of Arbitration for Sport after reaching an agreement with Lens over the signing of Gael Kakuta.
A statement on the CAS website said that the two clubs and the player had accepted the player's contract with the French side was not valid.
Thus Kakuta could not have terminated it prematurely, so Chelsea could not be liable for inducing it to be breached.
The CAS said all parties agreed the proceedings would remain confidential.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2010, 08:59:47 PM
Post by: elan on February 05, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Ah jes' curious to know:did the FA ever review and rescind that yellow card that Drogba had get for takin' dat Silver Fox drop-kick in he chest from dat imps from manu?
Wasn't it the best midfielder in the world who did that?
Post by: WestCoast on February 07, 2010, 10:27:47 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 07, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 07, 2010, 12:52:28 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 07, 2010, 12:57:37 PM
Post by: elan on February 07, 2010, 01:25:19 PM
Post by: Toppa on February 07, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
Just came from church........I should have just stayed and watch Drogba preach he sermon, cause apparently he had Arsenal in a trance.
:devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 07, 2010, 01:33:20 PM
Just came from church........I should have just stayed and watch Drogba preach he sermon, cause apparently he had Arsenal in a trance.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaye-MEN! (against boys!)
Post by: Blue on February 07, 2010, 03:40:01 PM
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/001.jpg)
Post by: elan on February 10, 2010, 02:56:23 PM
Post by: DeSoWa on February 10, 2010, 03:57:03 PM
Big Up!
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 10, 2010, 03:59:56 PM
Post by: Blue on February 10, 2010, 04:05:47 PM
big side like everton
For real, bigger than arsenal. i had that game down as a loss beforehand....and I will call a couple others now => in the run in, we will drop points against Villa at home and Liverpool away. United will drop points at Everton and at Man City. Chelsea/Man U will draw at Old Trafford.
By de way, where yall are now? I doh really look dat far down the table.... ;D
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 10, 2010, 04:20:33 PM
big side like everton
For real, bigger than arsenal. i had that game down as a loss beforehand....and I will call a couple others now => in the run in, we will drop points against Villa at home and Liverpool away. United will drop points at Everton and at Man City. Chelsea/Man U will draw at Old Trafford.
By de way, where yall are now? I doh really look dat far down the table.... ;D
yeah d same everton we beat 6-1 hahahah at the same place you played them boo frickin hoo
doh studdy who beind you son its who in yuh coming games that will trip you up
Post by: elan on February 10, 2010, 04:21:35 PM
Post by: DeSoWa on February 10, 2010, 04:33:40 PM
Big Up!
Post by: xixgon on February 10, 2010, 04:59:31 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 10, 2010, 05:42:14 PM
Post by: Blue on February 11, 2010, 12:51:00 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8511556.stm
Ankle fracture rules Ashley Cole out for three months
Chelsea will be without Ashley Cole for around three months after the England defender fractured his left ankle in Wednesday's 2-1 defeat by Everton.
The 29-year-old left-back limped off in the second half after a challenge by Everton's Landon Donovan.
A scan on Thursday revealed the full extent of Cole's injury.
It leaves him with a fight to regain his fitness in time for this summer's World Cup, with England's first match against the United States on 12 June.
Cole has been in superb form for Chelsea this season and his absence will be a blow to Blues boss Carlo Ancelotti, who saw his side's lead at the top of the Premier League cut to one point after their defeat at Goodison Park.
Yuri Zhirkov could deputise at left-back although Paulo Ferreira, predominantly a right-back, is versatile enough to play anywhere across the backline.
Cole could be back in action by mid-May but it leaves him only a handful of games before the finals in South Africa get under way.
And he will definitely miss England's only scheduled friendly before the World Cup, against Egypt at Wembley on 3 March, although there are plans to arrange another game against Mexico ahead of the finals.
That means Manchester City's left-back Wayne Bridge, who was caught up in the scandal that led to John Terry being stripped of the England captaincy last week, is likely to come into the reckoning.
Terry has been given time off by Chelsea and will miss Saturday's FA Cup tie against Cardiff after flying to Dubai to visit his wife.
Post by: FF on February 11, 2010, 12:53:19 PM
Cole could be back in action by mid-May but it leaves him only a handful of games before the finals in South Africa get under way.
And he will definitely miss England's only scheduled friendly before the World Cup, against Egypt at Wembley on 3 March, although there are plans to arrange another game against Mexico ahead of the finals.
That means Manchester City's left-back Wayne Bridge, who was caught up in the scandal that led to John Terry being stripped of the England captaincy last week, is likely to come into the reckoning.
Terry has been given time off by Chelsea and will miss Saturday's FA Cup tie against Cardiff after flying to Dubai to visit his wife.
Mua ha ha ha...
You know I had a mind something so was gone happen.... now Bridge not only sure to go Africa... he might start too!!
hard luck de cole... heal up fast
Post by: Blue on February 11, 2010, 12:56:46 PM
Cole could be back in action by mid-May but it leaves him only a handful of games before the finals in South Africa get under way.
And he will definitely miss England's only scheduled friendly before the World Cup, against Egypt at Wembley on 3 March, although there are plans to arrange another game against Mexico ahead of the finals.
That means Manchester City's left-back Wayne Bridge, who was caught up in the scandal that led to John Terry being stripped of the England captaincy last week, is likely to come into the reckoning.
Terry has been given time off by Chelsea and will miss Saturday's FA Cup tie against Cardiff after flying to Dubai to visit his wife.
Mua ha ha ha...
You know I had a mind something so was gone happen.... now Bridge not only sure to go Africa... he might start too!!
hard luck de cole... heal up fast
lol, i didnt even study dat
Post by: elan on February 11, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2010, 11:48:21 PM
Cole could be back in action by mid-May but it leaves him only a handful of games before the finals in South Africa get under way.
And he will definitely miss England's only scheduled friendly before the World Cup, against Egypt at Wembley on 3 March, although there are plans to arrange another game against Mexico ahead of the finals.
That means Manchester City's left-back Wayne Bridge, who was caught up in the scandal that led to John Terry being stripped of the England captaincy last week, is likely to come into the reckoning.
Terry has been given time off by Chelsea and will miss Saturday's FA Cup tie against Cardiff after flying to Dubai to visit his wife.
Mua ha ha ha...
You know I had a mind something so was gone happen.... now Bridge not only sure to go Africa... he might start too!!
hard luck de cole... heal up fast
FF...."The Laws of The Universe" is a helluva ting boy! You couldn'ta WRITE this into a soap opera script any more dramatic!!
Post by: Blue on February 20, 2010, 08:44:47 AM
big side like everton
For real, bigger than arsenal. i had that game down as a loss beforehand....and I will call a couple others now => in the run in, we will drop points against Villa at home and Liverpool away. United will drop points at Everton and at Man City. Chelsea/Man U will draw at Old Trafford.
:beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 20, 2010, 08:50:01 AM
Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 : 2 Didier Drogba
wayne who?!?!....to FACK outta here!!
Post by: SOBRIQUET on February 24, 2010, 10:41:46 AM
Post by: Blue on February 25, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
Post by: elan on February 25, 2010, 09:11:15 PM
Chelsea - Man City this weekend. I hope we win, but to be honest daz not de reason I interested in dis one....now that he has pulled out of the England squad, Wayne Bridge is gonna get murdered by the fans at Stamford Bridge on Saturday...tickets for this game sold out faster than for any other game this season....iz gonna be awful :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Wayne Bridge is ah foooking idiot. That's why JT beat out he thing, no balls.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 06:52:28 AM
now to let city beat out chelski :devil:
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 07:33:55 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 07:34:21 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 07:40:48 AM
Flikin Tevez!
:cursing: Hilario!!
Post by: HEADS HIGH on February 27, 2010, 07:48:05 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 07:51:50 AM
Flikin Tevez!
:cursing: Hilario!!
Nah man, it had all kinda men to blame before the shot. But it was a damn good shot. I doh think it was a miss-hit like they saying on tv. Tevez ketch the man leaning near post for the blast and dink it far post. The pace of the shot only serve to make it look like he coulda save it. Maybe if his fingers were longer...
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 07:52:30 AM
terry gets turned again
terry is ah bus, he get found out this week, bad news for england
terry having a shaky old timie today, like a guilty man :rotfl:
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 07:59:00 AM
:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
2-1
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 07:59:21 AM
Post by: HEADS HIGH on February 27, 2010, 08:01:12 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:01:42 AM
belamy all over yuh muuddacontainer :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:10:23 AM
Flikin Tevez!
:cursing: Hilario!!
Nah man, it had all kinda men to blame before the shot. But it was a damn good shot. I doh think it was a miss-hit like they saying on tv. Tevez ketch the man leaning near post for the blast and dink it far post. The pace of the shot only serve to make it look like he coulda save it. Maybe if his fingers were longer...
Yeah, I have to admit ah miss it when ah went in de kitchen but when ah check SKY, they describe it as a "weak shot" that "squirm " through his hands anad roll into the net....
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:11:14 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:11:58 AM
Flikin Tevez!
:cursing: Hilario!!
Nah man, it had all kinda men to blame before the shot. But it was a damn good shot. I doh think it was a miss-hit like they saying on tv. Tevez ketch the man leaning near post for the blast and dink it far post. The pace of the shot only serve to make it look like he coulda save it. Maybe if his fingers were longer...
Yeah, I have to admit ah miss it when ah went in de kitchen but when ah check SKY, they describe it as a "weak shot" that "squirm " through his hands anad roll into the net....
it was a weak shot but well placed the keeper could not get that
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:19:51 AM
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:22:55 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 08:23:05 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:24:32 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 27, 2010, 08:25:54 AM
Looks like the Man City player (not sure what his name is) dove. There was hardly any contact with the unfortunate Chelsea player who got sent off.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:26:20 AM
Game done!
you took the words right out meh mout'.....Chelsea only have themselves to blame......Yuh cyah be drawin' games wit side like birmingham, west ham and losin' to wigan....even mancity in shambles right now and yuh lettin' dem come in yuh own yard and run yuh.......nah!
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 08:27:18 AM
Post by: HEADS HIGH on February 27, 2010, 08:28:06 AM
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:28:43 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:28:58 AM
Just watched the replay showing the foul.
Looks like the Man City player (not sure what his name is) dove. There was hardly any contact with the unfortunate Chelsea player who got sent off.
First thing.....them men supposed to KNOW this referee like to be the focus so yuh cyah make dem kinda tackle that would put a decision like dat in he hand......there was not enough contact to make him fall, but yuh Beletti never made any attempt to try and come around the man......stupid tackle.
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:29:01 AM
De Big Side getting beaten by 2 goals yes... :rotfl:
tell them hahahaha :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
red card again for Chelsea :devil:
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:29:11 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 08:29:42 AM
arsenal in 'the title race again
Enjoy the Bronze Medal...
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
chelsea is sore losers
and soundly beaten, and served a hearlty helping of humble pie
TEAM BRIDGE!! :devil: :rotfl:
so now no cech no cole no balletti no ballack sounds like more points for chelsea to drop
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:31:32 AM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 08:31:55 AM
Thanks for the laugh Chelski.... :rotfl:
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 27, 2010, 08:32:01 AM
Just watched the replay showing the foul.
Looks like the Man City player (not sure what his name is) dove. There was hardly any contact with the unfortunate Chelsea player who got sent off.
The one that was fouled by Beletti was Gareth Barry
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:32:27 AM
The FA out to give Bridge some confidence to get him into the WC team. Bastard.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:33:26 AM
Who de hell is this ref? Havew he ever done a top level game before? Right nolw he will buy sand on the beach.
d man who has awarded the most penalties in the EPL this season
d FA sure knows how to pick them
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:33:44 AM
classless and indiscipline set of wife shaggers.... wait... wait....... wait.......... soon dey go look to protest and appeal to get the cards turned....
Thanks for the laugh Chelski.... :rotfl:
You talking shyte, Ballack complaining all game cause the ref calling real shyte. Laugh alyuh laugh nah man, still top.
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 08:35:09 AM
This is a joke.
The FA out to give Bridge some confidence to get him into the WC team. Bastard.
No buddy the joke on all yuh today...
Terry do shit for the first one... Obi Mikel get beat fuh being like molasses and de 3rd was retribution for all de shyte tackles... and now 3 clear goals in all yuh muddddarse...
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:35:26 AM
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 27, 2010, 08:35:52 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 08:36:11 AM
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:36:52 AM
4-1
again terry catch he arse to reach wrigth phillips and failed to put a d cross :rotfl: :devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:37:14 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:37:51 AM
This is a joke.
The FA out to give Bridge some confidence to get him into the WC team. Bastard.
No buddy the joke on all yuh today...
Terry do shit for the first one... Obi Mikel get beat fuh being like molasses and de 3rd was retribution for all de shyte tackles... and now 3 clear goals in all yuh muddddarse...
The ref dictated the pace in the last 30 minutes and moreso in the last 15. 2-1 with everything going towards Man City goal you will always give the odds on Chelsea scoring. How many times have Chelsea been chasing a 2-1 and win or equalize, but the ref took care of that.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:38:17 AM
Thank you FA.
well yuh know d saying?
fortune favors the brave but the FA favours Manu
Post by: HEADS HIGH on February 27, 2010, 08:38:58 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 08:39:29 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:42:28 AM
This ref is useless. That's a lazy fall by Anelka.
Post by: Observer on February 27, 2010, 08:44:18 AM
leave terry home and carry bridge
most fans of England who watched the Stoke vs Man City game will say Capello lucked out when Wayne Bridge refused the call up.
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 08:44:33 AM
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
Post by: MEP on February 27, 2010, 08:46:32 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
Sounds like you've never refereed in your life...yuh mus try it some time...it is not as easy as it looks
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:47:14 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
how you know he didnt need tv to make d right call? you can see through his eyes? photographic memory with slo mo replay??
and its not hard but it certainly isnt easy, i reff time to time and have done the course with the local fa here
i agree the reffs can be way better but it is a catch 22
reffs are closer to the ball and action these days (but i also think they have been causing a fraction of a second delay to players passes moves etc)
then on break aways the reff at best has 2 views his and the linesman
but if the ball is on the opposite side to the ref n lino he in trouble
easy penaltys blatant ones turned down offside calls gone wrong
my pet peeve is tackles and consitent tackles and consitency of bookings for tackles from behind and the worst of all holding and SHIRT pulling i always blow for that or play the advantage
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 08:51:16 AM
Post by: sammy on February 27, 2010, 08:51:58 AM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:52:52 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
Sounds like you've never refereed in your life...yuh mus try it some time...it is not as easy as it looks
Clean yuh ears.
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
how you know he didnt need tv to make d right call? you can see through his eyes? photographic memory with slo mo replay??
and its not hard but it certainly isnt easy, i reff time to time and have done the course with the local fa here
i agree the reffs can be way better but it is a catch 22
reffs are closer to the ball and action these days (but i also think they have been causing a fraction of a second delay to players passes moves etc)
then on break aways the reff at best has 2 views his and the linesman
but if the ball is on the opposite side to the ref n lino he in trouble
easy penaltys blatant ones turned down offside calls gone wrong
my pet peeve is tackles and consitent tackles and consitency of bookings for tackles from behind and the worst of all holding and SHIRT pulling i always blow for that or play the advantage
I expect to NEVER see you bitchin' about refs again......like you was not BARELY a week ago. I could only laugh at allyuh so.
Post by: richpy on February 27, 2010, 08:54:05 AM
When Essien coming back, because this John Obi Mikel pulling stones. He cause or had a hand in Man City first 2 goals.
Mangowchow, yeh Anelka does look lazy but if yuh watch him closely the man does make excellent runs, and today he was menacing, but unlucky.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:55:54 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
Sounds like you've never refereed in your life...yuh mus try it some time...it is not as easy as it looks
Clean yuh ears.Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
how you know he didnt need tv to make d right call? you can see through his eyes? photographic memory with slo mo replay??
and its not hard but it certainly isnt easy, i reff time to time and have done the course with the local fa here
i agree the reffs can be way better but it is a catch 22
reffs are closer to the ball and action these days (but i also think they have been causing a fraction of a second delay to players passes moves etc)
then on break aways the reff at best has 2 views his and the linesman
but if the ball is on the opposite side to the ref n lino he in trouble
easy penaltys blatant ones turned down offside calls gone wrong
my pet peeve is tackles and consitent tackles and consitency of bookings for tackles from behind and the worst of all holding and SHIRT pulling i always blow for that or play the advantage
I expect to NEVER see you bitchin' about refs again......like you was not BARELY a week ago. I could only laugh at allyuh so.
i did the ref course cus i sick of seeing shithound refs here and away
so i have full authority to bitch at reffs
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 08:57:01 AM
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Laugh alyuh laugh nah man,
:devil:
J.T.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 08:58:40 AM
Chelsea trying their best to lose this League. Thy had this game under control and just self-destruct. Disgusting!
When Essien coming back, because this John Obi Mikel pulling stones. He cause or had a hand in Man City first 2 goals.
Mangowchow, yeh Anelka does look lazy but if yuh watch him closely the man does make excellent runs, and today he was menacing, but unlucky.
it have certain men crying dong song saying mikel better than him, so far song have the upper hand this season
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 09:01:38 AM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
Sounds like you've never refereed in your life...yuh mus try it some time...it is not as easy as it looks
Clean yuh ears.Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
how you know he didnt need tv to make d right call? you can see through his eyes? photographic memory with slo mo replay??
and its not hard but it certainly isnt easy, i reff time to time and have done the course with the local fa here
i agree the reffs can be way better but it is a catch 22
reffs are closer to the ball and action these days (but i also think they have been causing a fraction of a second delay to players passes moves etc)
then on break aways the reff at best has 2 views his and the linesman
but if the ball is on the opposite side to the ref n lino he in trouble
easy penaltys blatant ones turned down offside calls gone wrong
my pet peeve is tackles and consitent tackles and consitency of bookings for tackles from behind and the worst of all holding and SHIRT pulling i always blow for that or play the advantage
I expect to NEVER see you bitchin' about refs again......like you was not BARELY a week ago. I could only laugh at allyuh so.
i did the ref course cus i sick of seeing shithound refs here and away
so i have full authority to bitch at reffs
......again, you either very hard of understanding or are hypocritical til it blinds you.....I not questioning your "authority "to criticize the officiating, boss....but the fact that you were ssssssssssso disgusted with the officiating to the point that you even did the proactive thing in taking a course, strongly leans toward the point I was making in the first damned place: The EPL/FA needs to step up with its/their quality of referees. Plain and simple.
******I'm sure if I were to invest the time in pulling up some of your recent posts....I will find one where yuh was doggin' the ref (on a not-so-obvious call) the other day, yet you want to come here today and defend them, just because the result suits your shit side. Try to be less transparent and more honest than that nuh*******
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 09:07:06 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 09:11:52 AM
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Laugh alyuh laugh nah man,
:devil:
J.T.
:devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 09:17:43 AM
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
Post by: dinho on February 27, 2010, 09:18:06 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 09:21:06 AM
aye all yuh get all yuh arse cut... stop bitching about the ref's nah... :beermug:
Nobody bitchin' about the refs as far as the result is concerned. We all know manu and arsenal have the rights to that :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 09:26:52 AM
Chelsea trying their best to lose this League. Thy had this game under control and just self-destruct. Disgusting!
When Essien coming back, because this John Obi Mikel pulling stones. He cause or had a hand in Man City first 2 goals.
Mangowchow, yeh Anelka does look lazy but if yuh watch him closely the man does make excellent runs, and today he was menacing, but unlucky.
Sometimes he really doesn't work as hard as the team needs him to....but I love to watch him play....he really makes everything he does look so easy (even the shit he does do sometimes ;D) I does just be shakin' meh head. John Obi is really not the problem, Jed.......when Essien comes back is ballack who need to be wearing a jacket during the games.
Post by: Blue on February 27, 2010, 09:34:49 AM
Thank God we had a game in hand. Just reach home from de game....Hilario is shit, dat fella is comical, he so bad yuh cah be vex at him. And on a more serious note, we need back Essien asap.
I guess big sides do lose by 2 goals ;D
NO HANDSHAKE :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 10:30:04 AM
That is a laughable pack of shit you write there. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 10:37:20 AM
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
One good beating and all yuh delusional....
Post by: FF on February 27, 2010, 11:03:41 AM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 11:22:05 AM
That is a laughable pack of shit you write there. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
Thanks for the compliment.
Post by: Observer on February 27, 2010, 11:28:28 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
One good beating and all yuh delusional....
....and we could take a beating and still top the league. Your shit side have lix to get, too, padnah. doh get too happy yet.
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
One good beating and all yuh delusional....
....and we could take a beating and still top the league. Your shit side have lix to get, too, padnah. doh get too happy yet.
De title will be settled at Old Trafford... doh worry about we... Study what The Special One go do all yuh at the Bridge...!
JT shook see the shyte he playing cause he know he fork hengland world cup bid royally.. and half all yuh players already on creaky knees and ankles... me eh fretting... we been here before and we take de title from all yuh like this already.... :beermug:
Even if all yuh win in enigmatic fashion... it doh change that JT forking he country man, club and country go always stand out...! but it go make a good sexcuse why Hengland go fail in de World Cup...!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
One good beating and all yuh delusional....
....and we could take a beating and still top the league. Your shit side have lix to get, too, padnah. doh get too happy yet.
De title will be settled at Old Trafford... doh worry about we... Study what The Special One go do all yuh at the Bridge...!
JT shook see the shyte he playing cause he know he fork hengland world cup bid royally.. and half all yuh players already on creaky knees and ankles... me eh fretting... we been here before and we take de title from all yuh like this already.... :beermug:
Who knows, it might be settled before dat! Allyuh better hope roony stay fit and c**t mouth straighten out he back
Even if all yuh win in enigmatic fashion... it doh change that JT forking he country man, club and country go always stand out...! but it go make a good sexcuse why Hengland go fail in de World Cup...!
Yuh preachin' to the wrong choir, Padnah, I doh support Hengland. Besides, they have won the only World Cup they will ever win within a generations of my lifetime. As a country, they are simply not good enough to contend with the perennial favourites.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 12:10:05 PM
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2010, 12:39:30 PM
That is a laughable pack of shit you write there. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
hhehehehehe :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 12:50:40 PM
That is a laughable pack of shit you write there. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
hhehehehehe :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
D.H.W. :flamethrower:
:devil:
Post by: Daft Trini on February 27, 2010, 01:01:50 PM
:beermug:
and as you say that, a next soft penalty
4-2
The comeback is on!
...as in come back to the dressing room with a L
;D...ah go take dat. Chelsea eh want no trophies this season....I am convinced!
For the men that want to cry dong JOM....the boy does not play as conventional a game as Chelsea does. He is a very solid young player that has a vision that his teammates don't alwas share. You can see it in the types of passing ability he has and sometimes he makes plays that, on the surface, may look boneheaded, but when you really understand the man's play, its because he doesn't play the "linear" type of football that some of his Chelsea teammates (and most people born, bred and brainwashed solely on english football) can appreciate, add to the fact that Chelsea really have him playing a role that doesn't quite bring out the best of his ability. John Obi Mikel would eat song for lunch and use him for a toothpick. It is no coincidence that he was voted the second-best player after Messi, in the 2005 U-20 WC and he was really the best player on the field in the final. Song is not in his league.
One good beating and all yuh delusional....
....and we could take a beating and still top the league. Your shit side have lix to get, too, padnah. doh get too happy yet.
De title will be settled at Old Trafford... doh worry about we... Study what The Special One go do all yuh at the Bridge...!
JT shook see the shyte he playing cause he know he fork hengland world cup bid royally.. and half all yuh players already on creaky knees and ankles... me eh fretting... we been here before and we take de title from all yuh like this already.... :beermug:
Who knows, it might be settled before dat! Allyuh better hope roony stay fit and c**t mouth straighten out he back
Even if all yuh win in enigmatic fashion... it doh change that JT forking he country man, club and country go always stand out...! but it go make a good sexcuse why Hengland go fail in de World Cup...!
Yuh preachin' to the wrong choir, Padnah, I doh support Hengland. Besides, they have won the only World Cup they will ever win within a generations of my lifetime. As a country, they are simply not good enough to contend with the perennial favourites.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
Sounds like you've never refereed in your life...yuh mus try it some time...it is not as easy as it looks
Clean yuh ears.Anelka.....hard to figure out whether he just lazy...or if he is so gifted that everything comes so easy to him that he looks like he isn't even trying most times.....
I cyah understand how the EPL, which at this point, is probably England's biggest export (after imperialism) and possibly the most popular league in the world and they would still have such consistently poor officiating... ???
england alone? are you nuts half the refs in the world catch dey arse tv doh help esp when you cyar use it to help you
Bossman, ah know it kinda early, but read my statement in its entirety and try to understand nuh......officiating on a whole can be quite suspect.....but the EPL is probably and likely enjoys the widest broadcast audience in the world and in spite of it, their officiating, IMO, is far from acceptable. I am talking about poor calls that you KNOW you don't need television to show you to make the right call between a referee and a linesman. This game is not really that hard to officiate......
how you know he didnt need tv to make d right call? you can see through his eyes? photographic memory with slo mo replay??
and its not hard but it certainly isnt easy, i reff time to time and have done the course with the local fa here
i agree the reffs can be way better but it is a catch 22
reffs are closer to the ball and action these days (but i also think they have been causing a fraction of a second delay to players passes moves etc)
then on break aways the reff at best has 2 views his and the linesman
but if the ball is on the opposite side to the ref n lino he in trouble
easy penaltys blatant ones turned down offside calls gone wrong
my pet peeve is tackles and consitent tackles and consitency of bookings for tackles from behind and the worst of all holding and SHIRT pulling i always blow for that or play the advantage
I expect to NEVER see you bitchin' about refs again......like you was not BARELY a week ago. I could only laugh at allyuh so.
i did the ref course cus i sick of seeing shithound refs here and away
so i have full authority to bitch at reffs
......again, you either very hard of understanding or are hypocritical til it blinds you.....I not questioning your "authority "to criticize the officiating, boss....but the fact that you were ssssssssssso disgusted with the officiating to the point that you even did the proactive thing in taking a course, strongly leans toward the point I was making in the first damned place: The EPL/FA needs to step up with its/their quality of referees. Plain and simple.
******I'm sure if I were to invest the time in pulling up some of your recent posts....I will find one where yuh was doggin' the ref (on a not-so-obvious call) the other day, yet you want to come here today and defend them, just because the result suits your shit side. Try to be less transparent and more honest than that nuh*******
like the two penalties the turned down against arsenal??
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 01:37:40 PM
....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 02:42:51 PM
....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.
I watch Obi Mikel against Inter and it had one time Inter had a break 3v2 or 4v2 with Mikel caught up field. The speed the man recover with and the position he take up shut everything down. That play alone showed how good and important players like himself really are. The man recovery position have been no better.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 03:22:24 PM
....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 27, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
but champions always come back strong.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 03:50:39 PM
yuh stupid idiots playing into fergie han' more than arsene
watch n see how manu could make allyuh rue the shit yuh does play vs small sides
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 03:58:29 PM
oh how the mighty have fallen
yuh stupid idiots playing into fergie han' more than arsene
watch n see how manu could make allyuh rue the shit yuh does play vs small sides
.....and you would much prefer that manu make us rue the shit we playin'....rather than allyuh. :devil:
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 04:07:03 PM
No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 27, 2010, 04:17:18 PM
oh how the mighty have fallen
yuh stupid idiots playing into fergie han' more than arsene
watch n see how manu could make allyuh rue the shit yuh does play vs small sides
.....and you would much prefer that manu make us rue the shit we playin'....rather than allyuh. :devil:
you two still have to play so advantage to who wins that game, arsenal can only plod on and win all thier remaining games and hope you two drop points
possible but not probable
and yes manu has mre class and history then a buncha london rent boys for a bored russian billionare
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 04:28:36 PM
No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
"...misunderstood passer"?!?! What de hell is DAT?!?! Mikel makes passes to nobody?! Mikel is just like Makelele?!?! Song and Mikel (defensively) are even?!?! (Oh, I forgot......"this year" they are) Mikel lacks offensive talent?!?! Boy, go and eat sumthing nuh....yuh hunger pains givin yuh gas and it surely blowin' out yuh ass.
This is why the the words coming out your mouth can ONLY be taken as compliments.
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
When you figure it out and cool yourself we could talk.No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
"...misunderstood passer"?!?! What de hell is DAT?!?! Mikel makes passes to nobody?! Mikel is just like Makelele?!?! Song and Mikel (defensively) are even?!?! (Oh, I forgot......"this year" they are) Mikel lacks offensive talent?!?! Boy, go and eat sumthing nuh....yuh hunger pains givin yuh gas and it surely blowin' out yuh ass.
This is why the the words coming out your mouth can ONLY be taken as compliments.
Ok youngster? :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: Feliziano on February 27, 2010, 04:55:32 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 05:09:51 PM
When you figure it out and cool yourself we could talk.No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
"...misunderstood passer"?!?! What de hell is DAT?!?! Mikel makes passes to nobody?! Mikel is just like Makelele?!?! Song and Mikel (defensively) are even?!?! (Oh, I forgot......"this year" they are) Mikel lacks offensive talent?!?! Boy, go and eat sumthing nuh....yuh hunger pains givin yuh gas and it surely blowin' out yuh ass.
This is why the the words coming out your mouth can ONLY be taken as compliments.
Ok youngster? :beermug: :beermug:
Don't let the question marks fool yuh, padnah. They aren't expressions of my confusion but of my disbelief at your nonsensical declarations, so nutt'n to figure out dey at all. You lettin' the role that Chelsea have him playing tie you up with judging his talent.
Obi and Song is both shit..even Lucas better than them ;D
:rotfl: :rotfl:
;D Look a nex one talkin' a pack ah ASS!! ;D
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 05:52:19 PM
No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody. That is level toots.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. Shows your lack of understanding of the game. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
Post by: triniairman on February 27, 2010, 06:23:33 PM
:devil: :devil::rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Laugh alyuh laugh nah man,
Post by: triniairman on February 27, 2010, 06:26:05 PM
depressing week to be a chelsea fan. :(I see yuh been watchinh Man.U :devil:
but champions always come back strong.
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 07:07:41 PM
Fella ah know you and your pardna like to have each other's back but stay out of this if you coming with your asinine responses.No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody. That is level toots.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. Shows your lack of understanding of the game. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
The problem with most of allyuh fellas is you don't know how to have a healthy debate. So far I have given reasons for my conclusion that Song is better than Mikel. Neither you or your pardna have given any reasons that you think the opposite. All you guys who are so "learned" in the game come back with is just a bunch of simpleton retorts. If you have a respose to the debate at hand then let me know.
Allyuh fellas jokey :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: elan on February 27, 2010, 07:17:02 PM
Fella ah know you and your pardna like to have each other's back but stay out of this if you coming with your asinine responses.No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody. That is level toots.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. Shows your lack of understanding of the game. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
The problem with most of allyuh fellas is you don't know how to have a healthy debate. So far I have given reasons for my conclusion that Song is better than Mikel. Neither you or your pardna have given any reasons that you think the opposite. All you guys who are so "learned" in the game come back with is just a bunch of simpleton retorts. If you have a respose to the debate at hand then let me know.
Allyuh fellas jokey :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Well sorry if you want to take on Mango by yuhself. Didn't know somethings are restricted.
Saying that OJM only pass sideways is the same thing the mad man in Spain say when they chase Makas out. Jokers. Find out why Marcos Senna and Spain was so successful at the Euros and then try talk.
That side ways pass is a killa pass.
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 07:42:52 PM
No breds with knowledge of the game.Fella ah know you and your pardna like to have each other's back but stay out of this if you coming with your asinine responses.No i'm one of those people who thinks that you are a ranting idiot!!!....and to think....the jokers that does want to come and talk shit, comparing Song to Mikel.....week in, week out, song always gettin' caught out of position....same old song, over and over again.....Stoke takes an early lead......I continue to laugh.Breds again you are jokey!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you are one of the idiots that want to claim Alexandre Song is better than John Obi Mikel and everything someone writes has to be broken down to you to the most fundamental of levels, again, I thank you for the compliment.
That crap you wrote about Mikel being a misunderstood passer is some of the most dotish analysis i've seen on here. Misunderstood because he keeps passing to nobody. That is level toots.
Song this year and Mikel are about even defensively. Song however is much better offensively than Mikel. Mikel is a just like Makalele, very good at breaking up plays in the midfield but lacking any significant offensive talent. Most of his passes are square. Shows your lack of understanding of the game. He takes up good supporting positions and keeps the ball well, both of which Song does just as well.
The problem with most of allyuh fellas is you don't know how to have a healthy debate. So far I have given reasons for my conclusion that Song is better than Mikel. Neither you or your pardna have given any reasons that you think the opposite. All you guys who are so "learned" in the game come back with is just a bunch of simpleton retorts. If you have a respose to the debate at hand then let me know.
Allyuh fellas jokey :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Well sorry if you want to take on Mango by yuhself. Didn't know somethings are restricted.
Saying that OJM only pass sideways is the same thing the mad man in Spain say when they chase Makas out. Jokers. Find out why Marcos Senna and Spain was so successful at the Euros and then try talk.
That side ways pass is a killa pass.
They ran Makalele out of Madrid because they underestimated how important it was to win the ball back was. In Spain the teams are generally good at keeping possession. Makalele was important in disrupting the possession of the other team. He was not important for his sideways pass.
Trust me Mikel is not on Chelsea's team because of his passing.
Post by: dinho on February 27, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
Post by: dumpalewie on February 27, 2010, 08:06:29 PM
how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:13:32 PM
how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I wish I could smoke de same weed you smokin, jed, I wouldn't have a care in the world.
Song is not as good as Mikel is in any facet of the game. Mikel's biggest weaknesses might be (1) his discipline and (2) his shooting but Song still have plenty Catchin' up to do. Song is always gettin caught out of position....even his arsenal fans steady complaining about it.
Post by: dinho on February 27, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2010, 08:22:35 PM
Post by: dumpalewie on February 28, 2010, 06:06:23 AM
See I don't really rate his vision.how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
I have said before that he takes up good positions in support and he doesn't really give the ball away, i.e. he has good touch and holds on to the ball well. But I also think that Song excels at those same things and adds a little more offensively. No doubt that Arsenal doesn't defend as well as Chelsea but I think that's as a team which is a reflection on Wegner.
BTW thanks for engaging in an adult debate. I can't take these young cats on here who think that hurling insults is a form of debate.
Post by: Blue on February 28, 2010, 06:11:44 AM
See I don't really rate his vision.how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
I have said before that he takes up good positions in support and he doesn't really give the ball away, i.e. he has good touch and holds on to the ball well. But I also think that Song excels at those same things and adds a little more offensively. No doubt that Arsenal doesn't defend as well as Chelsea but I think that's as a team which is a reflection on Wegner.
Mikel has no vision. He only ever spots sideways passes. The exception might be last weekend against Cardiff when he played a straightforward ball over the top for Drogba to score - but dat was really just awful defending, not great vision. Other than that I can't ever remember Mikel making a great pass.
Dunno if it was caught on camera, but at one point yesterday, Drogba threw a full-blown tantrum because he kept making runs than Mikel was completely not spotting.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 28, 2010, 08:29:41 AM
See I don't really rate his vision.how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
I have said before that he takes up good positions in support and he doesn't really give the ball away, i.e. he has good touch and holds on to the ball well. But I also think that Song excels at those same things and adds a little more offensively. No doubt that Arsenal doesn't defend as well as Chelsea but I think that's as a team which is a reflection on Wegner.
BTW thanks for engaging in an adult debate. I can't take these young cats on here who think that hurling insults is a form of debate.
But you open yourself to dat with the tone of your initial post. ???
I eh know where allyuh does come out nuh. If yuh wanted respectful debate you could have respectfully disagreed.
See I don't really rate his vision.how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
I have said before that he takes up good positions in support and he doesn't really give the ball away, i.e. he has good touch and holds on to the ball well. But I also think that Song excels at those same things and adds a little more offensively. No doubt that Arsenal doesn't defend as well as Chelsea but I think that's as a team which is a reflection on Wegner.
Mikel has no vision. He only ever spots sideways passes. The exception might be last weekend against Cardiff when he played a straightforward ball over the top for Drogba to score - but dat was really just awful defending, not great vision. Other than that I can't ever remember Mikel making a great pass.
Dunno if it was caught on camera, but at one point yesterday, Drogba threw a full-blown tantrum because he kept making runs than Mikel was completely not spotting.
Ryan, we jess go have to agree to (respectfully) disagree. A few moments of frustration "..at one point...." on Drogba's (the ultimate Drama Queen) part isn't enough in my book to dispel what I have seen him do with my own two eyes in the past and what I know he's capable of. Chelsea has pigeon-holed him and restricted his role on the team and he seems quite comfortable playing to instructions. In time, I know people will appreciate his not-so-obvious talent as a natural playmaker.
dumpalewie, when yuh skin soft and yuh sensitivities permit you to engage only in "adult debate" , that is how you must address to people on "this forum". Otherwise, pee and go in yuh bed (or go in yuh bed and pee, whichever suits you better)
Post by: dumpalewie on February 28, 2010, 08:32:18 AM
You are right and for that i respectfully apologize!See I don't really rate his vision.how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
I have said before that he takes up good positions in support and he doesn't really give the ball away, i.e. he has good touch and holds on to the ball well. But I also think that Song excels at those same things and adds a little more offensively. No doubt that Arsenal doesn't defend as well as Chelsea but I think that's as a team which is a reflection on Wegner.
BTW thanks for engaging in an adult debate. I can't take these young cats on here who think that hurling insults is a form of debate.
But you open yourself to dat with the tone of your initial post. ???
I eh know where allyuh does come out nuh. If yuh wanted respectful debate you could have respectfully disagreed.See I don't really rate his vision.how is "he is just another makalele" supposed to be a criticism? That is like the ultimate compliment you could give to a defensive midfielder.
Better passer? Daiz not he wuk!
I'm not calling him a shithong. I think he is very good at fulfilling his role as a midfield destroyer.
IMHO Song is as good defensively as he is but is better offensively. Hence, I think Song is the better overall player.
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
I have said before that he takes up good positions in support and he doesn't really give the ball away, i.e. he has good touch and holds on to the ball well. But I also think that Song excels at those same things and adds a little more offensively. No doubt that Arsenal doesn't defend as well as Chelsea but I think that's as a team which is a reflection on Wegner.
Mikel has no vision. He only ever spots sideways passes. The exception might be last weekend against Cardiff when he played a straightforward ball over the top for Drogba to score - but dat was really just awful defending, not great vision. Other than that I can't ever remember Mikel making a great pass.
Dunno if it was caught on camera, but at one point yesterday, Drogba threw a full-blown tantrum because he kept making runs than Mikel was completely not spotting.
Ryan, we jess go have to agree to (respectfully) disagree. A few moments of frustration "..at one point...." on Drogba's (the ultimate Drama Queen) part isn't enough in my book to dispel what I have seen him do with my own two eyes in the past and what I know he's capable of. Chelsea has pigeon-holed him and restricted his role on the team and he seems quite comfortable playing to instructions. In time, I know people will appreciate his not-so-obvious talent as a natural playmaker.
dumpalewie, when yuh skin soft and yuh sensitivities permit you to engage only in "adult debate" , that is how you must address to people on "this forum". Otherwise, pee and go in yuh bed (or go in yuh bed and pee, whichever suits you better)
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 28, 2010, 08:51:29 AM
You are right and for that i respectfully apologize!
Apology (respectfully) accepted.
Post by: doc on February 28, 2010, 11:46:05 AM
Despite what you claim, this what the facts state:
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
In 28 games, Arsenal has conceded 31 goals at 1.07 per game, while Chelsea has conceded a meagre 26 at 0.929 per game. That is leaking real goals at the whopping rate of 0.179 goals more per game than the great Chelsea wall. :rotfl:
We conceded 14 in 5 games - 2 vs Chelsea, 2 vs MU and 1 game vs MC, so in the other 23 games, we conceded 17 goals at a rate of 0.739 goals per game. Draw your own conclusions about how many goals we leak, but the stats give a sober picture of the reality of things :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: dinho on February 28, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
Despite what you claim, this what the facts state:
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
In 28 games, Arsenal has conceded 31 goals at 1.07 per game, while Chelsea has conceded a meagre 26 at 0.929 per game. That is leaking real goals at the whopping rate of 0.179 goals more per game than the great Chelsea wall. :rotfl:
We conceded 14 in 5 games - 2 vs Chelsea, 2 vs MU and 1 game vs MC, so in the other 23 games, we conceded 17 goals at a rate of 0.739 goals per game. Draw your own conclusions about how many goals we leak, but the stats give a sober picture of the reality of things :rotfl: :rotfl:
statto, could you pull up some stats on clean sheets for the season?
Post by: doc on March 01, 2010, 10:11:19 AM
Chelsea has 13 and Arsenal 10Despite what you claim, this what the facts state:
I respect your opinion, but I think he looks better offensively because he playing too far up de judgement pitch... and i will give him a bly because that could very well be Wenger fault, but Arsenal does leak real goals because their back 4 exposed.. And as a defensive midfielder, a side that can't keep clean sheets is a reflection on you.
Imo Obi Mikel's touch and vision is a cut above.. yuh doh really see him mistrap or get muscle off the ball. De youth does look composed and in control, he just have to improve on he mental.
In 28 games, Arsenal has conceded 31 goals at 1.07 per game, while Chelsea has conceded a meagre 26 at 0.929 per game. That is leaking real goals at the whopping rate of 0.179 goals more per game than the great Chelsea wall. :rotfl:
We conceded 14 in 5 games - 2 vs Chelsea, 2 vs MU and 1 game vs MC, so in the other 23 games, we conceded 17 goals at a rate of 0.739 goals per game. Draw your own conclusions about how many goals we leak, but the stats give a sober picture of the reality of things :rotfl: :rotfl:
statto, could you pull up some stats on clean sheets for the season?
Post by: sammy on March 16, 2010, 03:38:57 PM
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Laugh alyuh laugh nah man,
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2010, 03:40:37 PM
Post by: elan on March 16, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
Post by: dumpalewie on March 16, 2010, 04:02:59 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 16, 2010, 06:38:35 PM
only interested in shit play instead of getting on with the game
Post by: elan on March 16, 2010, 08:31:27 PM
drogba is a donkey la la la la!
only interested in shit play instead of getting on with the game
Hey I would say something bad about y'all big striker, but you aint got any. :devil:
Hey we get we arse buss. Hope you all do better than us.
Post by: Spursy on March 16, 2010, 09:03:02 PM
inter play some rel good ball, mouth watering champions league with lyon inspirational form has earn some big name scalps this term, united looking better with every game and barca keeps rolling on somehow.. madrid is out of the finals that they bought leaving stamford feeling blue. poor drogba, ancellotti days are number knowing roman only wants the cl title who's next? if he read this forum he might starting talking with don leo?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2010, 09:54:22 PM
Post by: congo on March 16, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
Post by: WestCoast on March 16, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
Today is officially Hug a chelsea fan day!!!why?
dem ah bit blue or wha ;D
this day will be a "special one" :devil:
easy Chow.....easy ;)
Post by: PATRIOT on March 16, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
Is a hard luck, fellas.....you can't score only 1 goal over two legs and expect to be in contention for no trophy. We have to now focus on the League and the FA Cup. Can't let this loss drag down morale.Actually it might be a blessing in disguise, as I suspect that with the rash of injuries to key players like Chec, A. Cole, Essien,Bosingwa... it would have been hard to compete on ALL 3 fronts, maybe now we can do the double...I personally don't think Ancelotti is the right man for this team... I question his selection policies, and use of subs, buh say what, HE's the man who's "done it all" ent?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2010, 11:25:07 PM
Today is officially Hug a chelsea fan day!!!why?
dem ah bit blue or wha ;D
this day will be a "special one" :devil:
easy Chow.....easy ;)
Yeah, I eh go lie, ah feelin' a how but......dize how it is, sometimes. Yuh win some, yuh lose some. :-\
Is a hard luck, fellas.....you can't score only 1 goal over two legs and expect to be in contention for no trophy. We have to now focus on the League and the FA Cup. Can't let this loss drag down morale.Actually it might be a blessing in disguise, as I suspect that with the rash of injuries to key players like Chec, A. Cole, Essien,Bosingwa... it would have been hard to compete on ALL 3 fronts, maybe now we can do the double...I personally don't think Ancelotti is the right man for this team... I question his selection policies, and use of subs, buh say what, HE's the man who's "done it all" ent?
Yeah, I agree, it woulda been really hard to take on all comers with the kinds of injuries we have now. I just hope we could re-group and channel all our energies where they need to be. I doh really have a problem with Ancelotti nuh, Padnah. For the most part, I like how he has the team playing. They are playing a little more attack-minded than I've seen them play but they still ketchin' hiccups against soem of them cellar-dwellin' teams. As far as his team selection goes, I think he has done a great job, especially considering the injuries we have had this season. The only issues I do have with him in that area, is the continued obligation to allow ballack to sweat (does he even break a friggin' sweat?!) and the continued pigeonholing of John Obi Mikel. However, those issues go all the way back to Jose and were perpetuated by all the other managers in between. I wish ballack would just quit the friggin' game! >:( Go and join Hare Krishna or sumting.....
Post by: D.H.W on March 17, 2010, 07:37:13 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 17, 2010, 09:03:35 AM
Is a hard luck, fellas.....you can't score only 1 goal over two legs and expect to be in contention for no trophy. We have to now focus on the League and the FA Cup. Can't let this loss drag down morale.Actually it might be a blessing in disguise, as I suspect that with the rash of injuries to key players like Chec, A. Cole, Essien,Bosingwa... it would have been hard to compete on ALL 3 fronts, maybe now we can do the double...I personally don't think Ancelotti is the right man for this team... I question his selection policies, and use of subs, buh say what, HE's the man who's "done it all" ent?
Ancellotti is ah good coach, buh some ah he moves does frustrate me bad. Yesterday he make some maturana type moves in my eyes. He good buh I wish we had Hiddink doh. Ah tell ah soldier I rate Hiddink higher when de season start an he was vex wid dat, but the way how Hiddink make de blues click after Gene Hackman had we in disarray make me revere he tactics. Apart from all de injuries I still think Hiddink woulda squeeze out a better performance. Say wha daiz de way it goes doh. I feel better about this exit than last year's only because I can say Inter outplayed us as opposed to how we exited to Barca last season. Hats off to inter Maicon, Samuel and Lucio were magnificent and Sneidjer is utmost class.
Post by: kicker on March 17, 2010, 09:10:38 AM
Hats off to inter Maicon, Samuel and Lucio were magnificent and Sneidjer is utmost class.
Lucio was Drogba fadda in both legs...They will meet again the World Cup- see if Drogba can figure him out by then.
Sneijder has his erratic days but when he's on, he's up there with the best of them in that position- I think he made one bad pass yesterday, everything else was on the money....Still dunno why Madrid let him go and kept Van Der Vaart...Sneijder is easily the better player between the two...In my opinion.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 17, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Hats off to inter Maicon, Samuel and Lucio were magnificent and Sneidjer is utmost class.
Lucio was Drogba fadda in both legs...They will meet again the World Cup- see if Drogba can figure him out by then.
Sneijder has his erratic days but when he's on, he's up there with the best of them in that position- I think he made one bad pass yesterday, everything else was on the money....Still dunno why Madrid let him go and kept Van Der Vaart...Sneijder is easily the better player between the two...In my opinion.
I wondered about that as well
Post by: elan on March 17, 2010, 09:48:38 AM
Hats off to inter Maicon, Samuel and Lucio were magnificent and Sneidjer is utmost class.
Lucio was Drogba fadda in both legs...They will meet again the World Cup- see if Drogba can figure him out by then.
Sneijder has his erratic days but when he's on, he's up there with the best of them in that position- I think he made one bad pass yesterday, everything else was on the money....Still dunno why Madrid let him go and kept Van Der Vaart...Sneijder is easily the better player between the two...In my opinion.
That's a wrong assessment. Drogba fadder was Anelka yesterday.
Post by: kicker on March 17, 2010, 09:57:45 AM
That's a wrong assessment. Drogba fadder was Anelka yesterday.
;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 17, 2010, 11:09:50 AM
Hats off to inter Maicon, Samuel and Lucio were magnificent and Sneidjer is utmost class.
Lucio was Drogba fadda in both legs...They will meet again the World Cup- see if Drogba can figure him out by then.
Sneijder has his erratic days but when he's on, he's up there with the best of them in that position- I think he made one bad pass yesterday, everything else was on the money....Still dunno why Madrid let him go and kept Van Der Vaart...Sneijder is easily the better player between the two...In my opinion.
That's a wrong assessment. Drogba fadder was Anelka yesterday.
The inference by either of you that Drogs was a product of a single parent makes you both wrong. ;D Yesterday in particular, Lucio AND Samuel was Drogba parents yesterday...in fact, it took a village because everybody had a turn in frustrating him. Referee included.
Post by: Marcos on March 17, 2010, 12:05:14 PM
Hats off to inter Maicon, Samuel and Lucio were magnificent and Sneidjer is utmost class.
Lucio was Drogba fadda in both legs...They will meet again the World Cup- see if Drogba can figure him out by then.
Sneijder has his erratic days but when he's on, he's up there with the best of them in that position- I think he made one bad pass yesterday, everything else was on the money....Still dunno why Madrid let him go and kept Van Der Vaart...Sneijder is easily the better player between the two...In my opinion.
Sneider better than what Kaka too...
Post by: elan on March 21, 2010, 11:57:34 AM
As much as that is we not helping we self. We score and start walking around. I have no idea why Ancelloti keeping Anelka on the field. The fella clueless, no anticipation causing us to slow down in transition.
Post by: elan on March 21, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2010, 12:01:20 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2010, 12:18:43 PM
I maintain that The FA is against Chelsea. That was some dubious refereeing. We cannot get a call in the final 1/3.
As much as that is we not helping we self. We score and start walking around. I have no idea why Ancelloti keeping Anelka on the field. The fella clueless, no anticipation causing us to slow down in transition.
...It wasn't just Anelka today, Padnah..... in de first half, Malouda run through de whole side, get a clear shot at goal from 18 yards. Straight to the 'keeper. Lampard eh do shit today, Deco eh do shit today, Ferreira eh do shit today...wait, in fact he did do shit. He let Diouf get a clear header on goal. Is games like these, where Chelsea have every right to come in and establish themselves as the dominant team and they don't. Same thing against West Ham, Birmingham and Wigan during the winter, and the loss to ManCity when Lampard missed the PK. Hummuch points is dat? I agree, the referee missed some calls and was letting Blackburn play physical and letting Chelsea not. But at the end of the day, I doh care how rough and tumble Blackburn is, yuh cyah let them out-hustle you out the park with you keeping your hands at your side.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2010, 12:21:01 PM
On a morning when Man United get a ghost pk to stay in the game, we draw. :-\
I now check livescore and see 1-1 FT
Shit side
also...
Originally Posted by fifa.com laws of the game
If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues
holding him inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick.
4 points clear rent boy
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2010, 12:27:34 PM
Post by: sammy on March 21, 2010, 12:32:22 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 21, 2010, 01:47:44 PM
Post by: Blue on March 21, 2010, 02:33:40 PM
By that time, Man U will probably have wrapped up the title.
Ah well, it was a nice run ;D
Post by: just cool on March 21, 2010, 04:43:04 PM
Until Essien returns (and, to a lesser extent, Ashley Cole), we are resigned to mediocrity.Really woulda like chelsea to tuh win this yr, but it look like they let it all slip through their finger today. now they need tuh beat united @ old trafford, and that my friend iz an up hill battle.
By that time, Man U will probably have wrapped up the title.
Ah well, it was a nice run ;D
Post by: sammy on March 21, 2010, 06:51:21 PM
I maintain that The FA is against Chelsea. That was some dubious refereeing. We cannot get a call in the final 1/3.
On a morning when Man United get a ghost pk to stay in the game, we draw. :-\
I sympathize with u eh....but stop grasping at straws nah man. It pathetic and embarrassing :P
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 22, 2010, 08:40:59 AM
Post by: xixgon on March 22, 2010, 10:09:42 PM
jesus saves, fa loves manu
Haha freal - das why Utd got called for exactly the same penalty against City in the Carling Cup - and Liverpool were given 5 minutes of stoppage time to come back into the game. Not to mention Mascherano and Torres coulda both been sent off in the 1st half.
Blame Liverpool for not picking up Valencia, Gerrard for not showing up and Torres for not burying at least 1 of the 2 chances in the box - not the Ref in a game that Utd dominated.
Post by: richpy on March 27, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
Ah have to give respect to Lampard. The man is a consistent 20 goals/season midfielder.
Anelka real tearing up man, too
Post by: lefty on March 27, 2010, 10:52:38 AM
Post by: Jay10 on March 27, 2010, 10:53:36 AM
Post by: Andre DosSantos on March 27, 2010, 10:57:11 AM
Post by: big dawg on March 27, 2010, 10:58:36 AM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
Two cups better than none
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 11:07:11 AM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
...long as we continue winning out, which, of course, includes takin' out the trash at ole traffwhored
in a few weeks. I really wasn't expecting such an easy time against Aston Villa today....would be nice if this is just a prelude to the semi's!
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 27, 2010, 11:11:34 AM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
...long as we continue winning out, which, of course, includes takin' out the trash at ole traffwhored
in a few weeks. I really wasn't expecting such an easy time against Aston Villa today....would be nice if this is just a prelude to the semi's!
yea die hard...7 days is a few weeks ::) ::)
See ya then rent boys
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2010, 11:12:00 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 11:17:05 AM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
...long as we continue winning out, which, of course, includes takin' out the trash at ole traffwhored
in a few weeks. I really wasn't expecting such an easy time against Aston Villa today....would be nice if this is just a prelude to the semi's!
yea die hard...7 days is a few weeks ::) ::)
See ya then rent boys
No scene. Few weeks, few days, few months.......the song will remain the same. How allyuh want dem prawns in allyuh bread?
Post by: sammy on March 27, 2010, 11:22:50 AM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
...long as we continue winning out, which, of course, includes takin' out the trash at ole traffwhored
in a few weeks. I really wasn't expecting such an easy time against Aston Villa today....would be nice if this is just a prelude to the semi's!
yea die hard...7 days is a few weeks ::) ::)
See ya then rent boys
they nervous bad....so it feeling like an eternity
Post by: Daft Trini on March 27, 2010, 11:23:54 AM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
...long as we continue winning out, which, of course, includes takin' out the trash at ole traffwhored
in a few weeks. I really wasn't expecting such an easy time against Aston Villa today....would be nice if this is just a prelude to the semi's!
yea die hard...7 days is a few weeks ::) ::)
See ya then rent boys
No scene. Few weeks, few days, few months.......the song will remain the same. How allyuh want dem prawns in allyuh bread?
I hope there is a full FA inquiry into de guns that was sold by villa today... :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 03:03:04 PM
we in pole positioning for EPL and FA Cup
...long as we continue winning out, which, of course, includes takin' out the trash at ole traffwhored
in a few weeks. I really wasn't expecting such an easy time against Aston Villa today....would be nice if this is just a prelude to the semi's!
yea die hard...7 days is a few weeks ::) ::)
See ya then rent boys
No scene. Few weeks, few days, few months.......the song will remain the same. How allyuh want dem prawns in allyuh bread?
I hope there is a full FA inquiry into de guns that was sold by villa today... :beermug:
I expect that Bolton will be included in that inquiry, too, tryin' to pad manu stats on GD today!. :devil:
Post by: triniairman on April 03, 2010, 12:16:07 AM
Titanic title tussle at Old Trafford
Manchester United welcome Chelsea to Old Trafford for what promises to be a pivotal point in the Premier League title race.
Leaders and defending champions the Red Devils hold a one-point advantage over the Blues ahead of their Saturday lunchtime showdown, with just five further games remaining following their head-to-head clash.
Arsenal, given their previous powers of recovery, should not be discounted from the reckoning, but they are three adrift of Chelsea and will be without crocked captain Cesc Fabregas for the remainder of the campaign.
England fans may have breathed a sigh of relief at the news Wayne Rooney suffered only minor ligament damage when twisting his ankle awkwardly in the closing moments against Bayern Munich, but to United supporters the implications are much more significant.
Rooney will be fit for the summer's World Cup, but requires a stint on the sidelines expected to be between two and three weeks, sidelining him for the key clash with Chelsea, Wednesday's return meeting with Bayern and several more vital fixtures.
Dimitar Berbatov is the obvious replacement for Rooney, having deputised well in the recent 4-0 victory over Bolton where he found the net twice. Yet the Bulgaria international is still to convince many inside Old Trafford who find fault with his languid style and seemingly relaxed approach.
Sir Alex Ferguson was less than impressed with his side's performance at the Allianz Arena and will not tolerate a repeat with the Red Devils having already put their bid for silverware in one competition in jeopardy with a below-par showing.
Hargreaves
Ferguson could elect to make further changes from his midweek starting XI, with Ryan Giggs and Antonio Valencia the most likely to be involved.
Owen Hargreaves and John O'Shea are in contention for a spot on the bench after long-term absences with their respective knee and dead leg problems, with midfielder Hargreaves the more likely to feature.
While the hosts are without their star striker, Chelsea will be bolstered by the return of leading marksman Didier Drogba following a minor knee complaint.
The Ivory Coast international did not feature against Aston Villa at Stamford Bridge last time out, although his absence was not felt as the Blues romped to a stunning 7-1 success against the top-four hopefuls.
Carlo Ancelotti does have injury problems of his own, with the visitors' defence particularly stretched entering the home straight.
Ashley Cole (ankle), Ricardo Carvalho (ankle), Jose Bosingwa (knee) and Branislav Ivanovic (knee) are all sidelined, along with midfielder Michael Essien (knee).
Chelsea claimed a 1-0 success over the Red Devils when the two teams met in West London earlier this season, but suffered a 3-0 reverse on their last visit to the home of their title rivals last term.
Possible starting XIs:
Manchester United: Van der Sar, Neville, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Fletcher, Nani, Carrick, Park, Giggs, Berbatov.
Chelsea: Cech, Ferreria, Alex, Terry, Zhirkov, Mikel, Lampard, Malouda, Ballack, Anelka, Drogba.
http://www.skysports.com/football/match_preview/0,19764,11065_3151500,00.html
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 03:04:46 AM
http://3d.sky.com/pubfinder/Default.aspx :beermug:
Post by: AirMan on April 03, 2010, 04:20:12 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 03, 2010, 05:12:23 AM
1203: TEAMS Man Utd v Chelsea
Man Utd: Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes, Park, Berbatov. Subs: Kuszczak, Carrick, Nani, Rafael Da Silva, Macheda, Gibson, De Laet.
Chelsea: Cech, Paulo Ferreira, Alex, Terry, Zhirkov, Joe Cole, Deco, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda, Anelka. Subs: Turnbull, Drogba, Ballack, Kalou, Sturridge, Belletti, Bruma.
Referee: Mike Dean (Wirral)
Post by: AirMan on April 03, 2010, 05:37:40 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 05:41:53 AM
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=70240&part=sports
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 05:44:15 AM
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 06:06:28 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 06:07:53 AM
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 06:23:24 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 06:28:03 AM
Scholes and them could never be players. Them is just nastiness, dutty, stinkin, cheating, nastiness.....bastards.
...and by the "and them" you could only be referring to men like: gary neville, darren fletcher, wes brown, nemanja "we don't like pretty football" vidic, etc, right?
Post by: xixgon on April 03, 2010, 06:39:43 AM
Scholes and them could never be players. Them is just nastiness, dutty, stinkin, cheating, nastiness.....bastards.
...and by the "and them" you could only be referring to men like: gary neville, darren fletcher, wes brown, nemanja "we don't like pretty football" vidic, etc, right?
Haha you'll talkin like d players don't get carded when they commit fouls. It's a well known fact that Scholes cah tackle - and Vidic plays physically and has been sent off several times. But to say they eh also quality players is jus biasness really :)
SAF needs to make some changes in this game though - Nani for Giggs, Carrick for Scholes and, if necessary, Macheda for Park.
Post by: triniairman on April 03, 2010, 06:40:32 AM
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 06:46:49 AM
Scholes and them could never be players. Them is just nastiness, dutty, stinkin, cheating, nastiness.....bastards.
...and by the "and them" you could only be referring to men like: gary neville, darren fletcher, wes brown, nemanja "we don't like pretty football" vidic, etc, right?
Haha you'll talkin like d players don't get carded when they commit fouls. It's a well known fact that Scholes cah tackle - and Vidic plays physically and has been sent off several times. But to say they eh also quality players is jus biasness really :)
SAF needs to make some changes in this game though - Nani for Giggs, Carrick for Scholes and, if necessary, Macheda for Park.
Valencia not potent also :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 06:47:33 AM
Scholes and them could never be players. Them is just nastiness, dutty, stinkin, cheating, nastiness.....bastards.
...and by the "and them" you could only be referring to men like: gary neville, darren fletcher, wes brown, nemanja "we don't like pretty football" vidic, etc, right?
Haha you'll talkin like d players don't get carded when they commit fouls. It's a well known fact that Scholes cah tackle - and Vidic plays physically and has been sent off several times. But to say they eh also quality players is jus biasness really :)
SAF needs to make some changes in this game though - Nani for Giggs, Carrick for Scholes and, if necessary, Macheda for Park.
I not being biased, jed. I does always give jack he jacket. The players I call dey is men I doh rate as players de way manu fans does rate dem, so I tend to think that y'all far more biased than I could ever be. vidic is always a foul waiting to happen and his physicality, as you call it, is his greatest asset and as often as he actually does get carded/sent off, he should be getting much more. He is very easy to beat and he is very error-prone. He benefits from having good cover within a good team structure. As for gary neville? Ha! the tackle he laid out on Anelka says it all (over his armband).
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 06:52:07 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
ah just hope we score :P
Post by: xixgon on April 03, 2010, 07:05:30 AM
See what ah mean? Easy pass from scholes to neville and he tryin to collect de ball wit he eyes off the ball. Is only skilled, big time players (like giggs) could do dem ting! :D
Haha wow - I good wit u yes.
Giggs is class but at the moment is the most ripe to be subbed considering his minimal impact on this game thus far.
Scholes because he's been a bit off and is at risk of being carded again.
Park because Utd need more of an attacking threat up front.
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 07:06:12 AM
Anelka is the worst player ever BTW.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:08:20 AM
Anyone see that tackle from Ferdinone on Anelka? Two footed scissors tackle in front the ref. ??? ???
You sayin' dat like you surprised to see manu get away wit dem kinda ting...especially @ ole traffwhored.
Post by: Jah Gol on April 03, 2010, 07:11:52 AM
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 07:16:52 AM
Post by: Peong on April 03, 2010, 07:22:36 AM
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 07:23:33 AM
Yes he was offside, but that why they have refs.
Post by: Jah Gol on April 03, 2010, 07:23:51 AM
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 03, 2010, 07:24:09 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:24:21 AM
"It's got to be Nani time, despite the fact that he's wearing pink boots"
I doh know where some people taste buds does come from nuh!
Drogba was offside....but we go take it still (especially since mike deen saw fit not to give that penalty on the neville-on-Anelka tackle) Game done. 3 points.
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 07:24:38 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 07:25:27 AM
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 07:26:11 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:26:14 AM
yeh game on now 2-1
Chelsea playin' football. manu playin' volleyball.
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 03, 2010, 07:26:44 AM
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 07:26:52 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:27:31 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:29:06 AM
Guess he teefin both ways yes...
You could have said that from the first benefit of a "teefin" call that Chelsea got.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 07:30:01 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:32:43 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 07:34:36 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 07:38:41 AM
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 07:39:01 AM
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 03, 2010, 07:39:41 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:40:12 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
Now go and cry yuh biased eyes out and shed your biased tears in your biased beer. Green, yellow and BLUE!!! is the colour at old traffwhored today!!
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 07:41:23 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Breds the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones... but mike dean was no where close by... but for drogs goal the lines man was right there.... u could not come up with a better acronym....?
Post by: saga pinto on April 03, 2010, 07:43:52 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:48:20 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Breds the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones... but mike dean was no where close by... but for drogs goal the lines man was right there.... u could not come up with a better acronym....?
"...the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones..." Close, you say?! The only penalty that Chelsea appealed was closer than close, boss. Yuh that biased?!
As far as the acronym is concerned, I doesn't need to be better, imaginative or even good. It only needs to be apt. When it comes to people like allyuh and allyuh team, it is. Most of allyuh have no f**kin' class. Watch how one of allyuh go come on here cussin' the officials and everybody else fuh allyuh loss today.
Post by: big dawg on April 03, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
I don't care for either team at this point but the linesman got it wrong on that drogba goal clearly offside............time for instant replay it comin...
Exactly.... same way Macheda hand the ball and nothing happen..
Go Chelsea!!
Post by: Peong on April 03, 2010, 07:49:46 AM
Neville challenge on Anelka was a foul.
Slam into the man with no intention of getting the ball, so hard that neither of them could stay on their feet.
Captain Fagtastic!
Post by: dinho on April 03, 2010, 07:50:34 AM
The officials were shit..
CHELSEA FOR CHAMPIONS!! :devil:
Post by: xixgon on April 03, 2010, 07:52:24 AM
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.
But considering how we were written off before the season even began, I can only be proud of what the team has achieved up to this point - bein 2 pts. behind a side of Chelsea's depth and resources is about right unfortunately yes.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 07:53:27 AM
I don't care for either team at this point but the linesman got it wrong on that drogba goal clearly offside............time for instant replay it comin...
and the ref and the linesman got it wrong on the penalty non-call, and the ref and the linesman got it wrong on the rio ferdinand take down on anelka (like the officials have a dislike fuh dat man, boy) and they also got it wrong on macheda's hands of....the devil goal.....and we can go on and on and I guarantee you they got more big calls wrong that benefited manu than ones that benefited Chelsea.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 07:56:10 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Breds the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones... but mike dean was no where close by... but for drogs goal the lines man was right there.... u could not come up with a better acronym....?
"...the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones..." Close, you say?! The only penalty that Chelsea appealed was closer than close, boss. Yuh that biased?!
As far as the acronym is concerned, I doesn't need to be better, imaginative or good. It only needs to be apt. When it comes to people like allyuh and allyuh team, it is. Allyuh have no class. Watch how one of allyuh go come on here cussin' the officials everybody else fuh allyuh loss today.
Good Game... breds Robbie Mustoe is de man that say close... dem is expert... and class you say... I am positive that you have never crossed the gates at stamford bridge... so you could talk all the shyte about class...
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 07:57:48 AM
Tough Loss, but can't complain much after that performance.
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game - and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.
Valencia, Park and Nani did not perform well today... all were giving away passes or making bad passes..!
Post by: dinho on April 03, 2010, 07:58:21 AM
he was biased towards being shitty..
at the end of the day, man u did nothing to suggest they deserve to win anything today. Chelsea play all de ball..
30 million for Berbatov boy?? man making Shevchenko look like a bargain. lol
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 08:01:19 AM
the ref call shit both ways...
he was biased towards being shitty..
at the end of the day, man u did nothing to suggest they deserve to win anything today. Chelsea play all de ball..
30 million for Berbatov boy?? man making Shevchenko look like a bargain. lol
That buy does still baffle me... ???
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 08:04:18 AM
Big Up de Blues....playing without Cole, Essien, Carvalho, Ivanovic, Boswinga....and yet de title challenge is back on ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 08:06:21 AM
is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Breds the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones... but mike dean was no where close by... but for drogs goal the lines man was right there.... u could not come up with a better acronym....?
"...the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones..." Close, you say?! The only penalty that Chelsea appealed was closer than close, boss. Yuh that biased?!
As far as the acronym is concerned, I doesn't need to be better, imaginative or good. It only needs to be apt. When it comes to people like allyuh and allyuh team, it is. Allyuh have no class. Watch how one of allyuh go come on here cussin' the officials everybody else fuh allyuh loss today.
Good Game... breds Robbie Mustoe is de man that say close... dem is expert......
so because robbie mustoe say it close, I have to just take his word? Yuh ain't notice that mustoe is quite content with staying on the fence and lalas calling it like it is? and furthermore, I doh have meh own two eyes to see?
and class you say... I am positive that you have never crossed the gates at stamford bridge... so you could talk all the shyte about class...
Now where you went with this, proves my point exactly. Look at the kinda direction you want to go and declaration you want to make. Hard luck on the loss, padnah. Like it have yuh bazodee.
Post by: xixgon on April 03, 2010, 08:08:15 AM
Tough Loss, but can't complain much after that performance.
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game - and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.
Valencia, Park and Nani did not perform well today... all were giving away passes or making bad passes..!
Well Valencia didn't get much supply or leeway down the right - Chelsea's midfield stifled Utd for the most part. Park needs service and space to be effective offensively and he got little of either.
Nani didn't get much time on the park to make enough impact - but he set up the goal and looked more threatening than Giggs did for 90 mins in 20. I have no idea why Ferguson waited so long to take off Scholes and Giggs - they were both non-factors in the game - and in Giggs cause, even anaemic.
His subs or lack thereof in the last 2 games have been questionable - as is his over-reliance on his veterans, who just may not be up for the biggest of games anymore. Gary Neville also had a mixed bag today, after being plain out of his depth against Bayern.
Say what though, SAF has won us too much for me to be overly critical. I did think he could have given us a better chance to have pulled out at least draws in both games however - tactically and personnel-wise.
Utd are going flat at the worst possible time though - if they don't step up and show more edge and fire - they may be out of the Champs League and League race before Rooney even gets to have say yes.
Title's is Chelsea's to lose though - as it has been all season - we're going to have to pray that they have a blip or 2 from now to the end of the season. Utd conversely need to be perfect from here on out.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 08:10:13 AM
Tough Loss, but can't complain much after that performance.
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game - and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Breds the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones... but mike dean was no where close by... but for drogs goal the lines man was right there.... u could not come up with a better acronym....?
"...the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones..." Close, you say?! The only penalty that Chelsea appealed was closer than close, boss. Yuh that biased?!
As far as the acronym is concerned, I doesn't need to be better, imaginative or good. It only needs to be apt. When it comes to people like allyuh and allyuh team, it is. Allyuh have no class. Watch how one of allyuh go come on here cussin' the officials everybody else fuh allyuh loss today.
Good Game... breds Robbie Mustoe is de man that say close... dem is expert......
so because robbie mustoe say it close, I have to just take his word? Yuh ain't notice that mustoe is quite content with staying on the fence and lalas calling it like it is? and furthermore, I doh have meh own two eyes to see?
and class you say... I am positive that you have never crossed the gates at stamford bridge... so you could talk all the shyte about class...
Now where you went with this, proves my point exactly. Look at the kinda direction you want to go and declaration you want to make. Hard luck on the loss, padnah. Like it have yuh bazodee.
Cause Chelski fans can be just as obnoxious as well bredda... but if you talking about this site and it's fans expect the treatment... no biggie... :beermug:
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 08:15:08 AM
Tough Loss, but can't complain much after that performance.
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game - and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.
Valencia, Park and Nani did not perform well today... all were giving away passes or making bad passes..!
Well Valencia didn't get much supply or leeway down the right - Chelsea's midfield stifled Utd for the most part. Park needs service and space to be effective offensively and he got little of either.
Nani didn't get much time on the park to make enough impact - but he set up the goal and looked more threatening than Giggs did for 90 mins in 20. I have no idea why Ferguson waited so long to take off Scholes and Giggs - they were both non-factors in the game - and in Giggs cause, even anaemic.
His subs or lack thereof in the last 2 games have been questionable - as is his over-reliance on his veterans, who just may not be up for the biggest of games anymore. Gary Neville also had a mixed bag today, after being plain out of his depth against Bayern.
Say what though, SAF has won us too much for me to be overly critical. I did think he could have given us a better chance to have pulled out at least draws in both games however - tactically and personnel-wise.
Utd are going flat at the worst possible time though - if they don't step up and show more edge and fire - they may be out of the Champs League and League race before Rooney even gets to have say yes.
Title's is Chelsea's to lose though - as it has been all season - we're going to have to pray that they have a blip or 2 from now to the end of the season. Utd conversely need to be perfect from here on out.
Piece of magic...
I remember when Joe Cole was touted as the next Paul Gascoigne (meh player back in de day) good to see that cheeky flash of brilliance in his game today... Neville looked out of depth, giggsy was burnt and scholes is getting slower and slower... but 19 titles.... 3 in a row... SAF is still no 1 to me... I'm more concerned about Bayer than Chelski... :beermug:
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 08:16:26 AM
Title's is Chelsea's to lose though - as it has been all season - we're going to have to pray that they have a blip or 2 from now to the end of the season. Utd conversely need to be perfect from here on out.
I still fraid Liverpool at Anfield and, to a lesser extent, Spurs at WHL. I have always been more worried about the Liverpool game than today's game. I think we will draw at Anfield....but we have goal difference in our favour now, and I am praying that Man City will do us a massive favour and cut yuh ass in a fortnight's time.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 08:23:25 AM
Tough Loss, but can't complain much after that performance.
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.
But considering how we were written off before the season even began, I can only be proud of what the team has achieved up to this point - bein 2 pts. behind a side of Chelsea's depth and resources is about right unfortunately yes.
Can't agree with you more. Chelsea have not won this title yet, for too many reasons to mention right now but it looked like manu were intent on playing for a draw from the onset, which would have worked out just fine for them. Chelsea have some "tough" games ahead and the way we have been shaky and unpredictable in closing out seasons (since Jose's departure) lately, makes me more cautious than confident. Even today's game where we had the chance to really take the game and manu by the throat the way we won the title at old trafford 5 years ago, we didn't play with that same......approach. 5 games to go.
Tough Loss, but can't complain much after that performance.
Said before the game that this wasn't a definitive winner take all game - and hopefully that proves to be the case.
Chelsea were favourites going into the season, and being out of the Champions League has only helped them.
Utd have done well to just be in the position they've been in in all competitions, but the squad is starting to creak a bit now. If they do go ahead to win this title - it will probably go down as their greatest success ever - beyond winning it 4 times in a row and 19 times overall.is the linesman salary funded by Chelski...? there was no one in his way... he was slight in line with the drogs and he give that onside...?
How come yuh didn't open yuh mout' about the officials with the penalty non-call in the first half?
Because i am a Man U fan us ass... I biased fuh meh team..... you not biased for your team after all you big up de goal ent...
No, because, as I told you before, I am not so biased as to see the game through dishonest eyes and be chupid like allyuh.
NCAA....No Class At All.
Breds the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones... but mike dean was no where close by... but for drogs goal the lines man was right there.... u could not come up with a better acronym....?
"...the penalties that were appealed by Chelski were close ones..." Close, you say?! The only penalty that Chelsea appealed was closer than close, boss. Yuh that biased?!
As far as the acronym is concerned, I doesn't need to be better, imaginative or good. It only needs to be apt. When it comes to people like allyuh and allyuh team, it is. Allyuh have no class. Watch how one of allyuh go come on here cussin' the officials everybody else fuh allyuh loss today.
Good Game... breds Robbie Mustoe is de man that say close... dem is expert......
so because robbie mustoe say it close, I have to just take his word? Yuh ain't notice that mustoe is quite content with staying on the fence and lalas calling it like it is? and furthermore, I doh have meh own two eyes to see?
and class you say... I am positive that you have never crossed the gates at stamford bridge... so you could talk all the shyte about class...
Now where you went with this, proves my point exactly. Look at the kinda direction you want to go and declaration you want to make. Hard luck on the loss, padnah. Like it have yuh bazodee.
Cause Chelski fans can be just as obnoxious as well bredda... but if you talking about this site and it's fans expect the treatment... no biggie... :beermug:
There are obnoxious fans rooting for every team but y'all take the cake. Most of y'all take to the point where allyuh does compromise, and in some cases, downright desert yuh credibility. Sometimes I does see the things allyuh does write or say and I can only conclude that allyuh does have a hard time being honest wit yuh own selves.
Post by: rickstaa on April 03, 2010, 08:26:29 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 08:31:37 AM
Title's is Chelsea's to lose though - as it has been all season - we're going to have to pray that they have a blip or 2 from now to the end of the season. Utd conversely need to be perfect from here on out.
I still fraid Liverpool at Anfield and, to a lesser extent, Spurs at WHL. I have always been more worried about the Liverpool game than today's game. I think we will draw at Anfield....but we have goal difference in our favour now, and I am praying that Man City will do us a massive favour and cut yuh ass in a fortnight's time.
To be honest wit yuh, I more 'fraid Spurs @ WHL than I 'fraid liverpool @ anfield. Remember the 4-4 draw a few years ago....and the first game that Spurs at Stamfor Bridge won after how many years?
Then there's the bad result against the bottom-feeder teams that we prone to have....next ting yuh know we come and draw wit Bolton....or Stoke.
Post by: AirMan on April 03, 2010, 08:33:53 AM
Manchester is some garbage.............................TRUE STORY :rotfl:
MAN U aint fed up pee in yuh corn flakes with title winning performances EVERY YEAR ;D
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 09:08:52 AM
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 09:31:30 AM
Title's is Chelsea's to lose though - as it has been all season - we're going to have to pray that they have a blip or 2 from now to the end of the season. Utd conversely need to be perfect from here on out.
I still fraid Liverpool at Anfield and, to a lesser extent, Spurs at WHL. I have always been more worried about the Liverpool game than today's game. I think we will draw at Anfield....but we have goal difference in our favour now, and I am praying that Man City will do us a massive favour and cut yuh ass in a fortnight's time.
To be honest wit yuh, I more 'fraid Spurs @ WHL than I 'fraid liverpool @ anfield. Remember the 4-4 draw a few years ago....and the first game that Spurs at Stamfor Bridge won after how many years?
Then there's the bad result against the bottom-feeder teams that we prone to have....next ting yuh know we come and draw wit Bolton....or Stoke.
There is noone I would rather play than Bolton. They were the worst side I saw visit the Bridge all season. We hit dem 4-0 twice in one week earlier this season (League Cup and Premiership). They will be good for our goal difference.
Also went to de Stoke FA Cup game a few weeks ago....other than some Delap throw ins we had no problems. Stoke's season will also be over by that point....they will be locked on for a mid-table finish.
If we cant beat Bolton, Stoke and Wigan at home, we dont deserve the title.
And catch yuhself....Spurs haven't won at Stamford Bridge for years and years
Post by: rickstaa on April 03, 2010, 10:45:54 AM
stop live in the past and study they aint winning $h!t this year :devil:Manchester is some garbage.............................TRUE STORY :rotfl:
MAN U aint fed up pee in yuh corn flakes with title winning performances EVERY YEAR ;D
Post by: Blue on April 11, 2010, 11:12:41 AM
Essien and Ashley Cole given return dates :challenge:
Chelsea through to FA Cup Finals :cheers:
Man United at Ewood Park - Epic Fail :loser:
Pompey victory over Spurs - FA Cup wrapped up ;D
Also...Spurs played 120 minutes today and face Arsenal on Wednesday...they will be tired when we play dem next weekend...and Palacios picked up a suspension...if we win dat match its game over :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 11, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
What a weekend
Essien and Ashley Cole given return dates :challenge:
Chelsea through to FA Cup Finals :cheers:
Man United at Ewood Park - Epic Fail :loser:
Pompey victory over Spurs - FA Cup wrapped up ;D
Also...Spurs played 120 minutes today and face Arsenal on Wednesday...they will be tired when we play dem next weekend...and Palacios picked up a suspension...if we win dat match its game over :beermug:
I eh counting no chickens until all dem egg hatch! But if we win and win easily against Bolton this week it would be very encouraging!
Post by: dinho on April 13, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/Ancelotti-Meeting-turned-season-around (http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/Ancelotti-Meeting-turned-season-around)
Chelsea coach Carlo Ancelotti has conceded that a "clear-the-air" meeting with the players was an important moment in their season.
Chelsea's season looked over during a week when they were dumped out of the Champions League by Inter Milan and then drew 1-1 with Blackburn in the Premier League last month.
The draw at Ewood Park left them four points behind Manchester United and two behind Arsenal with a game in hand.
However, Chelsea rallied following an "open and honest" team meeting with management after the draw with Rovers and the Blues have been unbeaten ever since.
The meeting sparked a fabulous turnaround in their fortunes and has left them on course to become only the seventh team to win the League and FA Cup double.
"After that meeting we spoke together and tried to clear the air after the defeats to Inter and Manchester City," said Ancelotti.
"After that, the players were more focused on our aims. We were able to change our aims from the Champions League to the Premier League and the FA Cup.
"It was necessary to speak with the players. We are involved in the same aim, to put Chelsea in first position.
"It was a very important moment. When you have a difficulty, you have to move on quickly.
"The right way is to involve the players to give a responsibility on me, but also on the players.
"They have to take a responsibility when the moment is not so good. After that, the players worked with more concentration and with more determination, and together."
Since the meeting, Chelsea have put five past Portsmouth, scored seven against Aston Villa, beat United at Old Trafford and secured their third FA Cup final appearance in four years with a 3-0 victory over Villa at Wembley.
They are now one point ahead of Manchester United at the top of the Premier League and face Bolton tonight when victory will put them four points clear of the Red Devils.
Post by: Andre on April 13, 2010, 01:46:51 PM
http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/04/13/chelsea-fc-adidas-201011-home-kit-leak/
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4518157665_7934131224_o.jpg)
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 13, 2010, 08:01:29 PM
like d FA have a new blue eyed boy
Post by: Bourbon on April 13, 2010, 08:37:59 PM
two blatant penalties oui?
like d FA have a new blue eyed boy
New? It so a while now.
Post by: elan on April 13, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
two blatant penalties oui?
like d FA have a new blue eyed boy
New? It so a while now.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: elan on April 13, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
Post by: Blue on April 14, 2010, 11:01:56 AM
chelski putting red on their shirt? anyway is a leak.
http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/04/13/chelsea-fc-adidas-201011-home-kit-leak/
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4518157665_7934131224_o.jpg)
confirmed - the red is a tribute to the Chelsea pensioners.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2010, 11:11:10 PM
chelski putting red on their shirt? anyway is a leak.
http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/04/13/chelsea-fc-adidas-201011-home-kit-leak/
confirmed - the red is a tribute to the Chelsea pensioners.
Pensioners like who? Ballack? >:(
Post by: Blue on April 16, 2010, 02:50:09 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 16, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
Ashley Cole is in the squad for the Spurs game :thumbsup:
......now all we need is for Essien to return and is trouble!
Post by: dumpalewie on April 16, 2010, 04:49:59 PM
Trouble for next season?Ashley Cole is in the squad for the Spurs game :thumbsup:
......now all we need is for Essien to return and is trouble!
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 17, 2010, 03:52:15 AM
Trouble for next season?Ashley Cole is in the squad for the Spurs game :thumbsup:
......now all we need is for Essien to return and is trouble!
Aaarm......no.....we still have the EPL and an FA Cup to close out this season. We have no reason to take anything for granted. 4 more victories for the double are not guaranteed.
Post by: Babalawo on April 17, 2010, 10:31:34 AM
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 10:49:05 AM
MUAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 10:58:44 AM
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 11:17:31 AM
2
:devil:
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 11:22:51 AM
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 17, 2010, 11:35:16 AM
spurs spoiling all yuh party as well?
at leas t we have an excuse of a depleted squad and their keeper was on form
whats your excuse today?
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 17, 2010, 11:40:49 AM
chelski make ah sub in first half then two more at d half
and before they even kick off second half drogba pull he groin, hobbling about d feild
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 11:50:56 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 11:51:37 AM
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 11:59:00 AM
red for the idiot Terry
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 12:02:17 PM
It only gets worse...
red for the idiot Terry
:devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 12:03:13 PM
Post by: Daft Trini on April 17, 2010, 12:10:52 PM
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 12:20:26 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2010, 12:21:43 PM
Spurs only practicing how to miss.
For next week :devil: :devil: :devil:
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 12:24:47 PM
Squeeze bamsee time for Spurs...
For Chelsea too
For Man U
For Man City
For 1/2 the flikin league...
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2010, 12:27:14 PM
How de ass you mess up a 3v1?
One footed players!
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 12:28:32 PM
After that loss Chelsea drops to ....
1st place!
Laps for the whole squad
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 12:30:40 PM
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
Damn,
After that loss Chelsea drops to ....
1st place!
Laps for the whole squad
nice bait
Post by: Daft Trini on April 17, 2010, 12:31:47 PM
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 12:34:59 PM
bess cut arse I see in a long time.... I could see KJ in this Spurs Squad...
for the utd game? sure ;D
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 12:42:36 PM
Modric would look rell nice in a United jersey. Rafa Da Silva and Terry dumb and dumber!
Terry is the 29 yr old captain of Chelsea (and not too long ago of England) - Rafael was a sparingly used 19 yr old thrown in against one of the best players in the world.
Both made poor decisions - but methinks one has more excuse for such mistakes than the next haha.
Post by: Babalawo on April 17, 2010, 12:47:05 PM
Post by: Jay10 on April 17, 2010, 12:54:33 PM
>:( Fakin Chelsea. wont let this spoil my Saturday. Joe Cole and Deco was garbage today... To add the both full backs as well
Paulo Ferreria ohhh goshh boy...hav me cussin whole half...at least they take him off...Lampard was invisible again...steupps...oh well...just need to beat pool at anfield
Post by: College on April 17, 2010, 01:06:47 PM
Post by: Babalawo on April 17, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
They missing Ashley Cole and Jose Bosingwa bad>:( Fakin Chelsea. wont let this spoil my Saturday. Joe Cole and Deco was garbage today... To add the both full backs as well
Paulo Ferreria ohhh goshh boy...hav me cussin whole half...at least they take him off...Lampard was invisible again...steupps...oh well...just need to beat pool at anfield
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 17, 2010, 02:00:26 PM
Post by: dinho on April 17, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
Cech pull off some big, big saves. I was expecting much better as this was the game to put it in the bag, but Tottenham real balling right now.
anyway, this go just make the EPL title all the more hurtful for man u when chelsea win it. lol
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 17, 2010, 05:55:29 PM
Gomez real improve since he first came on the scenes yes
Gomes didn't improve, he was always as good as he's looking now. He had a bad start/adjustment to the EPL, that's all. The man was an excellent GK since he was with PSV.....arkse Spurs. He kill dem in de UEFA Cup and dize why they went and acquired him.
Post by: dinho on April 17, 2010, 06:07:13 PM
Funny thing, since Cudicini get in that accident and he had no competition, the man game hit a next level.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 17, 2010, 06:49:59 PM
flekkin Paulo Ferreira dread, oh my lawd.. dat get real buse on his side of the field..
He hadda be de biggest shit hong on de side, man, I dunno WHERE the coaching staff does find de patience fuh he. I SURE this HAVE to be he last season in a Chelsea uniform!
Post by: mukumsplau on April 17, 2010, 06:54:19 PM
flekkin Paulo Ferreira dread, oh my lawd.. dat get real buse on his side of the field..
He hadda be de biggest shit hong on de side, man, I dunno WHERE the coaching staff does find de patience fuh he. I SURE this HAVE to be he last season in a Chelsea uniform!
he reminds me of my own RB Grygera
Post by: PantherX on April 17, 2010, 10:56:58 PM
Gomez real improve since he first came on the scenes yes
Gomes didn't improve, he was always as good as he's looking now. He had a bad start/adjustment to the EPL, that's all. The man was an excellent GK since he was with PSV.....arkse Spurs. He kill dem in de UEFA Cup and dize why they went and acquired him.
Gomes said in an interview that he was shocked by the pace of the English game initially and it took him a while to come to terms with it. I doubt he's the first foreign player to have that problem and certainly not the last.
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 11:48:24 PM
Gomez real improve since he first came on the scenes yes
Gomes didn't improve, he was always as good as he's looking now. He had a bad start/adjustment to the EPL, that's all. The man was an excellent GK since he was with PSV.....arkse Spurs. He kill dem in de UEFA Cup and dize why they went and acquired him.
Being a good goalkeeper is not only about shot-stopping - you need to be commanding in the area and be an efficient organizer of your defense. Gomes comes off as too laid back and nervy to me at times in the latter 2 regards.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2010, 03:43:20 AM
Gomez real improve since he first came on the scenes yes
Gomes didn't improve, he was always as good as he's looking now. He had a bad start/adjustment to the EPL, that's all. The man was an excellent GK since he was with PSV.....arkse Spurs. He kill dem in de UEFA Cup and dize why they went and acquired him.
Gomes said in an interview that he was shocked by the pace of the English game initially and it took him a while to come to terms with it. I doubt he's the first foreign player to have that problem and certainly not the last.
Yeah, I read the same thing, too....and in the one that I read, he also was a little put off, not only by the pace, but also by the physicality of the EPL. I, like you, don't think he's the first or will be the last foreigner to see things that way when it comes to english football.
Gomez real improve since he first came on the scenes yes
Gomes didn't improve, he was always as good as he's looking now. He had a bad start/adjustment to the EPL, that's all. The man was an excellent GK since he was with PSV.....arkse Spurs. He kill dem in de UEFA Cup and dize why they went and acquired him.
Being a good goalkeeper is not only about shot-stopping - you need to be commanding in the area and be an efficient organizer of your defense. Gomes comes off as too laid back and nervy to me at times in the latter 2 regards.
Yeah, I agree that it takes a lot of things to be a good GK but I doh really see what yuh talkin 'bout.
Post by: Observer on April 18, 2010, 07:26:22 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 18, 2010, 08:35:08 AM
Post by: xixgon on April 18, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
I think he is much better than Givens -people does get tied up by Givens shot stopping abilities but when was the last time he came for a cross? The man always on his line; at least Gomes commands his area and does not depend on his defenders to take care of crosses like Givens.
Funny how men are comparing Gomes to Schmeichel an ting haha.
An I eh really sure who Givens is - but Shay has been doing it consistently at a high level for far longer than Gomes.
They both have their flaws but Gomes probably go hadda prove himself for a few more years before anyone could really pass fair judgment yes.
Post by: dinho on April 18, 2010, 11:17:43 AM
I remember when Schmicel first came in the league, he was very poor at kicking, especially when balls were played back to him and his game was marked by a bundle of nerves. He settled well and the rest is hstory.
thats the thing about goalkeeping in England, is a totally different proposition. You get little protection from referees and players come in full out for contact, which is something that is not allowed in other leagues. On cross balls men does jump into the keeper like rugby and the ref might not even blow for that. England is the only league where a team's patented tactic is to launch a throw into the pk box and score from the ensuing scrimmage.
keeping real different in england..
this might not compare on any kinda level but i just talking the english culture.. I remember i used to save for a sunday league side in London.. First game i play a man take a shot and i save.. yuh boy proceed to distribute the ball to the wing back.. Well that man look so confused at getting the ball to start the play, he panic and lose it and goal nearly score.. Then all the teammates bawling out, "for f**k sake mate, kick it out!" Since then i hadda just dump out every ball and the further i kick it into the opposition half, men clapping..
don't talk for the first time a man play a through ball and i come off my line to intercept.. lewwe call it a 70-30 ball, I had the clear advantage to slide and gather.. is because where i expecting a man to hurdle me on the ground he skating in with studs.. And ref eh sayin shit.. Nuff times on them long throws i would get real push down and rough up in the box and is play on. And that is real affect yuh game because yuh get wary about contact..
after that i say fork dat yes, dem eh paying me to sweat here.. if i see contact coming i hoofing out with foot even from in my pk box, and on them long throws aimed at me, i just cuffing air to see who i could connect..
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2010, 12:03:14 PM
I think he is much better than Givens -people does get tied up by Givens shot stopping abilities but when was the last time he came for a cross? The man always on his line; at least Gomes commands his area and does not depend on his defenders to take care of crosses like Givens.
Funny how men are comparing Gomes to Schmeichel an ting haha.
An I eh really sure who Givens is - but Shay has been doing it consistently at a high level for far longer than Gomes.
They both have their flaws but Gomes probably go hadda prove himself for a few more years before anyone could really pass fair judgment yes.
I don't think anybody is comparing Gomes to Schmeichel, per se, Breds.....I think someone is making the point that even for someone as great as Schmeichel, getting adjusted to the English game seemed to have presented challenges that made people question even his ability, similarly for Gomes......and even Craig Gordon. I remember hummuch cry dong he get just on this forum alone.
Funny thing about football, is that goalkeeping is one of the most important positions on a team (for various reasons) yet, it's the most often misunderstood and a lot of the criticisms that GK's get from players, analysts, announcers and fans alike are coming from places of misunderstanding. It is a position that brings with it, a totally different set of challenges that, unless you have played the position, you really don't understand the dynamics of your role and your responsibility, the psychological burden that comes with it and the difficulty of carrying them out, especially when your teammates in front of you playin a setta shit.
So that is why when you spoke earlier about Gomes not being commanding enough or being too laid-back, or Giggsy talking about Shay Given not coming out for crosses, I couldn't agree. Yet. There is more that needs to be analyzed in terms of his relationship with his defenders, before you can say for sure that he has a problem, and some of that analysis can't come from watching it on a screen.
I'm sure Dinho and all could tell you that sometimes the hardest thing to do could be to get a defender to follow the simplest of instructions because every body has in his own mind what he should be doing and what you should be doing, too. Even for the best trained, well-rehearsed of professional teams and players, something as simple as setting a wall could be a headache.
Post by: Blue on April 18, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
Anyhow, great news for us - Torres out for the season = one less thing to worry about at Anfield in a fortnight.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
Personally, I think Gomes has been great this season, particularly when you consider how bad Spurs defence is (I doh care how much people rate him up, Dawson is a $h!ttong). There are only a handful of keepers better than him in the Premiership.
Anyhow, great news for us - Torres out for the season = one less thing to worry about at Anfield in a fortnight.
Yeah, because if we play anything like we did yesterday, we will have enough to worry 'bout from the get-go. We also better not let Wigan trip we up like we have in the past.
Post by: sammy on April 18, 2010, 02:24:32 PM
Personally, I think Gomes has been great this season, particularly when you consider how bad Spurs defence is (I doh care how much people rate him up, Dawson is a $h!ttong). There are only a handful of keepers better than him in the Premiership.
Anyhow, great news for us - Torres out for the season = one less thing to worry about at Anfield in a fortnight.
Yeah, because if we play anything like we did yesterday, we will have enough to worry 'bout from the get-go. We also better not let Wigan trip we up like we have in the past.
GO WIGAN :devil: :devil:
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 18, 2010, 03:38:30 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2010, 05:20:18 PM
2 horse race mates...may the best team win
:beermug:
Post by: Observer on April 18, 2010, 06:21:24 PM
I think he is much better than Givens -people does get tied up by Givens shot stopping abilities but when was the last time he came for a cross? The man always on his line; at least Gomes commands his area and does not depend on his defenders to take care of crosses like Givens.
Funny how men are comparing Gomes to Schmeichel an ting haha.
An I eh really sure who Givens is - but Shay has been doing it consistently at a high level for far longer than Gomes.
They both have their flaws but Gomes probably go hadda prove himself for a few more years before anyone could really pass fair judgment yes.
I don't think anybody is comparing Gomes to Schmeichel, per se, Breds.....I think someone is making the point that even for someone as great as Schmeichel, getting adjusted to the English game seemed to have presented challenges that made people question even his ability, similarly for Gomes......and even Craig Gordon. I remember hummuch cry dong he get just on this forum alone.
Funny thing about football, is that goalkeeping is one of the most important positions on a team (for various reasons) yet, it's the most often misunderstood and a lot of the criticisms that GK's get from players, analysts, announcers and fans alike are coming from places of misunderstanding. It is a position that brings with it, a totally different set of challenges that, unless you have played the position, you really don't understand the dynamics of your role and your responsibility, the psychological burden that comes with it and the difficulty of carrying them out, especially when your teammates in front of you playin a setta shit.
So that is why when you spoke earlier about Gomes not being commanding enough or being too laid-back, or Giggsy talking about Shay Given not coming out for crosses, I couldn't agree. Yet. There is more that needs to be analyzed in terms of his relationship with his defenders, before you can say for sure that he has a problem, and some of that analysis can't come from watching it on a screen.
I'm sure Dinho and all could tell you that sometimes the hardest thing to do could be to get a defender to follow the simplest of instructions because every body has in his own mind what he should be doing and what you should be doing, too. Even for the best trained, well-rehearsed of professional teams and players, something as simple as setting a wall could be a headache.
You have time we papa. Imagine you have to explain that. Laughable really!
Post by: xixgon on April 18, 2010, 08:11:37 PM
I think he is much better than Givens -people does get tied up by Givens shot stopping abilities but when was the last time he came for a cross? The man always on his line; at least Gomes commands his area and does not depend on his defenders to take care of crosses like Givens.
Funny how men are comparing Gomes to Schmeichel an ting haha.
An I eh really sure who Givens is - but Shay has been doing it consistently at a high level for far longer than Gomes.
They both have their flaws but Gomes probably go hadda prove himself for a few more years before anyone could really pass fair judgment yes.
I don't think anybody is comparing Gomes to Schmeichel, per se, Breds.....I think someone is making the point that even for someone as great as Schmeichel, getting adjusted to the English game seemed to have presented challenges that made people question even his ability, similarly for Gomes......and even Craig Gordon. I remember hummuch cry dong he get just on this forum alone.
Funny thing about football, is that goalkeeping is one of the most important positions on a team (for various reasons) yet, it's the most often misunderstood and a lot of the criticisms that GK's get from players, analysts, announcers and fans alike are coming from places of misunderstanding. It is a position that brings with it, a totally different set of challenges that, unless you have played the position, you really don't understand the dynamics of your role and your responsibility, the psychological burden that comes with it and the difficulty of carrying them out, especially when your teammates in front of you playin a setta shit.
So that is why when you spoke earlier about Gomes not being commanding enough or being too laid-back, or Giggsy talking about Shay Given not coming out for crosses, I couldn't agree. Yet. There is more that needs to be analyzed in terms of his relationship with his defenders, before you can say for sure that he has a problem, and some of that analysis can't come from watching it on a screen.
I'm sure Dinho and all could tell you that sometimes the hardest thing to do could be to get a defender to follow the simplest of instructions because every body has in his own mind what he should be doing and what you should be doing, too. Even for the best trained, well-rehearsed of professional teams and players, something as simple as setting a wall could be a headache.
You have time we papa. Imagine you have to explain that. Laughable really!
Haha "goalkeeping is one of the most important positions on a team" - serious :)
Learn sumtin new for the day yes.
I think it's well established that the goalkeeper is the most thankless position on the field besides the ref. People praise you up until the point you make one mistake - then ur a villain. Playing that position is to live with the fact that chances are any mishap on your part will lead to a goal - moreso than any other position on the park.
You can be as brilliant as you want to be - but a great save will likely never be rated as highly as a great goal - and you're only 1 poor game away from being vilified.
I'm not sure how good Gomes's English is for one - but his personality just doesn't seem that authoritative. He's been a solid shot stopper this season and decent enough on crosses - and I can respect his progress from some of his horror shows last season (against us at Old Trafford comes to mind).
I don't doubt that he can become one of the better goalkeepers in the world - I just don't rate him among the best right now. And to say that 'there are only a handful of keepers in the league better than him' is not exactly a glowing reference seeing as there aren't that many great goalkeepers in the EPL to begin with.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 19, 2010, 02:51:15 PM
I think he is much better than Givens -people does get tied up by Givens shot stopping abilities but when was the last time he came for a cross? The man always on his line; at least Gomes commands his area and does not depend on his defenders to take care of crosses like Givens.
Funny how men are comparing Gomes to Schmeichel an ting haha.
An I eh really sure who Givens is - but Shay has been doing it consistently at a high level for far longer than Gomes.
They both have their flaws but Gomes probably go hadda prove himself for a few more years before anyone could really pass fair judgment yes.
I don't think anybody is comparing Gomes to Schmeichel, per se, Breds.....I think someone is making the point that even for someone as great as Schmeichel, getting adjusted to the English game seemed to have presented challenges that made people question even his ability, similarly for Gomes......and even Craig Gordon. I remember hummuch cry dong he get just on this forum alone.
Funny thing about football, is that goalkeeping is one of the most important positions on a team (for various reasons) yet, it's the most often misunderstood and a lot of the criticisms that GK's get from players, analysts, announcers and fans alike are coming from places of misunderstanding. It is a position that brings with it, a totally different set of challenges that, unless you have played the position, you really don't understand the dynamics of your role and your responsibility, the psychological burden that comes with it and the difficulty of carrying them out, especially when your teammates in front of you playin a setta shit.
So that is why when you spoke earlier about Gomes not being commanding enough or being too laid-back, or Giggsy talking about Shay Given not coming out for crosses, I couldn't agree. Yet. There is more that needs to be analyzed in terms of his relationship with his defenders, before you can say for sure that he has a problem, and some of that analysis can't come from watching it on a screen.
I'm sure Dinho and all could tell you that sometimes the hardest thing to do could be to get a defender to follow the simplest of instructions because every body has in his own mind what he should be doing and what you should be doing, too. Even for the best trained, well-rehearsed of professional teams and players, something as simple as setting a wall could be a headache.
You have time we papa. Imagine you have to explain that. Laughable really!
Haha "goalkeeping is one of the most important positions on a team" - serious :)
Learn sumtin new for the day yes.
I think it's well established that the goalkeeper is the most thankless position on the field besides the ref. People praise you up until the point you make one mistake - then ur a villain. Playing that position is to live with the fact that chances are any mishap on your part will lead to a goal - moreso than any other position on the park.
You can be as brilliant as you want to be - but a great save will likely never be rated as highly as a great goal - and you're only 1 poor game away from being vilified.
I'm not sure how good Gomes's English is for one - but his personality just doesn't seem that authoritative. He's been a solid shot stopper this season and decent enough on crosses - and I can respect his progress from some of his horror shows last season (against us at Old Trafford comes to mind).
I don't doubt that he can become one of the better goalkeepers in the world - I just don't rate him among the best right now. And to say that 'there are only a handful of keepers in the league better than him' is not exactly a glowing reference seeing as there aren't that many great goalkeepers in the EPL to begin with.
I went through the trouble of explaining it because I don't think people really recognize how thankless a job it is. If you do then good for you, but you still showing me that you not sure what you talking about by underrating an excellent goalkeeper because he had one bad season making an adjustment to a new league. If you really know about appreciating good goalkeepers you would have know about Gomes long before he came to Spurs when he was competing with Julio Caesar for Brazil's no. 1 shirt, and PSV was pushing him to become a Dutch national because he performed so well for them.
Post by: dinho on April 20, 2010, 10:42:24 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/europe/story/Aguero-tempted-by-Chelsea-transfer (http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/europe/story/Aguero-tempted-by-Chelsea-transfer)
Atletico Madrid striker Sergio Aguero has hinted he would welcome a move to Chelsea after lavishing praise on Didier Drogba and Frank Lampard.
The Argentina forward, 21, has been linked with a big-money move to one of Europe's top clubs for some time and Carlo Ancelotti's side, who were thought to be close to acquiring his services last summer, again look to be in pole position.
Both Manchester clubs, Inter Milan and Real Madrid have also been strongly linked with a move for Aguero, but his personal preference appears to be clear.
He hailed Lampard and Drogba as world leaders in their respective positions as he assessed the possibility of moving to London.
He is quoted in the Daily Express saying: "Chelsea are a great club. They have become one of the most feared in Europe over recent years.
"I look at players like Didier Drogba and Frank Lampard and they have been - and still are - the best players in their positions in the world. I could really learn from players like that, there is no doubt.
"London would be a really amazing city to live in as well, myself and my wife could be really happy there. Carlos Tevez is doing really well at Manchester City but, for me, it is about joining a club who are ready to challenge for honours. City are not ready yet.
"Inter are a great club, but it is agreed that over the last five years the Premier League has been the strongest."
Post by: giggsy11 on April 20, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 20, 2010, 07:46:06 PM
Dinho and Chow ent all yuh miss all yuh Jose?
Well, speaking for myself: come nah man, Giggsy, you know de ansah to daaat!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 09:35:02 AM
Post by: dinho on April 25, 2010, 09:46:11 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 25, 2010, 09:48:24 AM
Post by: Observer on April 25, 2010, 09:56:03 AM
i know is stoke eh, but ballack actually filling in good for Obi Mikel..
With that much space, Ancelotti could step out there and run the midfield ;D
Seriously though I agree Ballack looks good so far.
Post by: xixgon on April 25, 2010, 10:31:30 AM
i know is stoke eh, but ballack actually filling in good for Obi Mikel..
With that much space, Ancelotti could step out there and run the midfield ;D
Seriously though I agree Ballack looks good so far.
Haha well he should be well-rested yes.
Dis game goin pretty routine so far doh unfortunately.
Post by: Blue on April 25, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
Post by: Peong on April 25, 2010, 10:55:38 AM
Post by: big dawg on April 25, 2010, 11:00:17 AM
without Drogbar or Anelka scoring.. who woulda taught
Post by: FireBrand on April 25, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
Post by: Blue on April 25, 2010, 11:01:42 AM
7-0 final score..
without Drogbar or Anelka scoring.. who woulda taught
Drogba hasn't scored in any of our (three) 7 goal performances. Diversity :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 11:02:19 AM
i know is stoke eh, but ballack actually filling in good for Obi Mikel..
Yeah, Ballack is one ah dem players dat need space to showcase his natural abilities. Stoke gave him way more room and respect than he deserved. If JOM is still out next week (or if he's fit and Carlo decide to play de ass and let Ballack play on one game's merit) he would have more of a challenge to step up to then.
This game was a walk in the park, but every team gets one of those from time to time. We have the more difficult of the remaining two-game fixtures than manu so we have to step up!
As easy a game as this was, men like Drogba showed his value to the team today. The man is a skillfully unorthodox Drama Queen.....but he's a hell of a player! Anelka still never ceases to amaze me with how effortlessly skillful he is and Lampard still may be a tad bit overrated in some people's eyes, but he is extremely invaluable to Chelsea and I would rate him as being the better of steven gerrard or any other midfielder that England have right now. We have the right mix of youth and experience moving forward, we just have to start looking to shoring up our central defense for the future. Terry is getting older and slower (if that is really possible) and Carvalho starting to pay the price of aging with all the niggling injuries.
Post by: dinho on April 25, 2010, 11:06:03 AM
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: Boodsy on April 25, 2010, 11:12:45 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 25, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
ROMA
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 11:22:25 AM
what a beat down...Stoke should be relegated immediately :devil:
Ricardo Fuller is a very talented player, as are their two GKs and Abdoulaye Faye. Right now, they look like four pieces of sterling silver lost in a heap of garbage.
Post by: dinho on April 25, 2010, 11:23:31 AM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
ROMA
how much years ago was that? i talking about this current Man U shit side.. :devil:
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2010, 12:32:35 PM
daiz the thng, this current utd shit side giving allyuh best side a run for the title.I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
ROMA
how much years ago was that? i talking about this current Man U shit side.. :devil:
Post by: Babalawo on April 25, 2010, 02:22:36 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 25, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
all them goals and allyuh still going to end up 2nd....Stevie G and company have a chance at 4th now...all we need is a draw..If yall win the next 2 well done..deserved..but dont celebrate just yet
Post by: Blue on April 25, 2010, 03:20:28 PM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 07:45:38 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 26, 2010, 07:55:53 AM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 07:58:16 AM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
Post by: lefty on April 26, 2010, 08:09:35 AM
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
ah guess is because 9 times out ah ten he does the business and is ah "if it ent broke doh fix it kinda scene ???"
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 26, 2010, 08:15:16 AM
I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
I like Mikel but I wouldn't sit Lampard for him to play CAM ever! Ballack on the other hand would certainly merrit an opportunity or two. If Malouda hadn't made himself a virtual must start this season, I think I could envision Ancellotti shifting Frankie to LM one or two games and giving Ballack a go in the CAM slot. Then again daiz Deco best position too so maybe not. But with the way how Lamps does perform I imagine it's tremendously difficult to map out a lineup without him in the Starting XI in his natural position anyway. Like Lefty say if it aint broke.......
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 08:16:25 AM
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
ah guess is because 9 times out ah ten he does the business and is ah "if it ent broke doh fix it kinda scene ???"
I am not saying he is not effective but the guy plays against 3rd division sides in the Carling cup or FA cup-so Ballack or Mikel not good enough against those type of sides?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 26, 2010, 08:21:56 AM
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
ah guess is because 9 times out ah ten he does the business and is ah "if it ent broke doh fix it kinda scene ???"
I am not saying he is not effective but the guy plays against 3rd division sides in the Carling cup or FA cup-so Ballack or Mikel not good enough against those type of sides?
I agree with yuh here.
Post by: elan on April 26, 2010, 09:06:23 AM
Could the same thing be said of Rooney to a certain extent?I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 09:20:14 AM
Could the same thing be said of Rooney to a certain extent?I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
Nope, Rooney did not and does not play against lesser sides the way Lampard does even though United lacks the depth in that area. Chelski has a lot of depth in midfield.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 26, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
Could the same thing be said of Rooney to a certain extent?I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
Nope, Rooney did not and does not play against lesser sides the way Lampard does even though United lacks the depth in that area. Chelski has a lot of depth in midfield.
I don't know but I think Lampard simply wants to play in every game and he is given that respect by the team because of his reputed work ethic and commitment to the team. There have been times when Lampard didn't "show up" for games and I was left wishing that Chelsea would drop or shift him from that CAM role for Mikel...but when you look at his numbers at the end of the season: 16 goals from the run of play + whatever penalties he takes + the fact that JOM's is such a poor shooter, I guess it's hard to argue the big picture. It leaves the option of having JOM move up to one of the lateral points of the diamond over Ballack but Ballack would be a defensive liability, being the slow thug that he is. So, I guess JOM really is playing (for now) the best role afforded him. Now next season, when Ballack and Deco are gone and Essien is back and healthy....I expect to see JOM take on more of an offensive role.....Ideally, his talent does warrant that he lead the charge in midfield but I know Lampard will still be the point man....it's going to be interesting to see how things play out. Ancelotti has already declared that Chelsea will be making a greater commitment to some of their younger players.....I hope JOM is included in that mix.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 10:59:57 AM
Could the same thing be said of Rooney to a certain extent?I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
Nope, Rooney did not and does not play against lesser sides the way Lampard does even though United lacks the depth in that area. Chelski has a lot of depth in midfield.
I don't know but I think Lampard simply wants to play in every game and he is given that respect by the team because of his reputed work ethic and commitment to the team. There have been times when Lampard didn't "show up" for games and I was left wishing that Chelsea would drop or shift him from that CAM role for Mikel...but when you look at his numbers at the end of the season: 16 goals from the run of play + whatever penalties he takes + the fact that JOM's is such a poor shooter, I guess it's hard to argue the big picture. It leaves the option of having JOM move up to one of the lateral points of the diamond over Ballack but Ballack would be a defensive liability, being the slow thug that he is. So, I guess JOM really is playing (for now) the best role afforded him. Now next season, when Ballack and Deco are gone and Essien is back and healthy....I expect to see JOM take on more of an offensive role.....Ideally, his talent does warrant that he lead the charge in midfield but I know Lampard will still be the point man....it's going to be interesting to see how things play out. Ancelotti has already declared that Chelsea will be making a greater commitment to some of their younger players.....I hope JOM is included in that mix.
You better hope they don't give up on him and he head out the door with Deco. Does Ancelotti have a history of developing young players? I know he coached a bunch a geriatrics at Milan.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 26, 2010, 11:15:36 AM
Could the same thing be said of Rooney to a certain extent?I think this is the 3rd time this season a side get 7 from Chelsea...
Manchester United could give anybody 7??
Champion performance! :beermug: :beermug:
And Stoke had the best away defensive record in the league before today. Villa had the same title when they showed up at Stamford Bridge last month.
That is worth repeating. Like man eh realize how rugged Stoke is defensively. Stoke is not a great side but defensively they have been excellent this (and even last) season.
As for Ballack man ha to understand that despite his overall dismall showing throughout his time at Chelsea, he is in fact a quality player with loads of class. He has never been played in his natural position as Lampard has that locked up. When given space to maneuver he can manage very well out of position as evidenced today. Watch and see the difference when he plays his true position during the World Cup.
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
Nope, Rooney did not and does not play against lesser sides the way Lampard does even though United lacks the depth in that area. Chelski has a lot of depth in midfield.
I don't know but I think Lampard simply wants to play in every game and he is given that respect by the team because of his reputed work ethic and commitment to the team. There have been times when Lampard didn't "show up" for games and I was left wishing that Chelsea would drop or shift him from that CAM role for Mikel...but when you look at his numbers at the end of the season: 16 goals from the run of play + whatever penalties he takes + the fact that JOM's is such a poor shooter, I guess it's hard to argue the big picture. It leaves the option of having JOM move up to one of the lateral points of the diamond over Ballack but Ballack would be a defensive liability, being the slow thug that he is. So, I guess JOM really is playing (for now) the best role afforded him. Now next season, when Ballack and Deco are gone and Essien is back and healthy....I expect to see JOM take on more of an offensive role.....Ideally, his talent does warrant that he lead the charge in midfield but I know Lampard will still be the point man....it's going to be interesting to see how things play out. Ancelotti has already declared that Chelsea will be making a greater commitment to some of their younger players.....I hope JOM is included in that mix.
You better hope they don't give up on him and he head out the door with Deco. Does Ancelotti have a history of developing young players? I know he coached a bunch a geriatrics at Milan.
He already announced that they are going to be bringing up a few young players from the academy next season http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html) and JOM recently signed an extension to his contract, (+ he love the London night :party: :wavetowel: life ) so I don't expect him to leave any time soon.
**besides.....you KNOW Abramovic is the man really callin' de shots, so if he say bring up some yutes.....Ancelotti will be visitin' a nursery!! :devil:**
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2010, 11:30:04 AM
Besides the youths, they also need to bring in some good young talent because the core of the side is aging. Lampard and Drogba are on the wrong side of 30 and I think Anelka's best season just went past him. Players like that often excel in a world cup year then taper off.
Would like to see Aguero come in to compete with Drogba and Anelka and eventually become the main man up top when he adapts to the EPL.. Also, need a strong right sided midfielder and CM.. why not Milner?
Post by: Blue on April 26, 2010, 11:41:08 AM
Question is there a reason that Lampard has to play every game at the expense of giving men like Mikel and Ballack in their more natural roles?
ah guess is because 9 times out ah ten he does the business and is ah "if it ent broke doh fix it kinda scene ???"
I am not saying he is not effective but the guy plays against 3rd division sides in the Carling cup or FA cup-so Ballack or Mikel not good enough against those type of sides?
Lampard got benched in several carling cup games.
Post by: Blue on April 26, 2010, 11:47:09 AM
Thank you and goodbye Michael Ballack... Same goes to Paulo Ferreira, Deco, and Beletti.. These men are past their sell by date.
Would like to see Aguero come in to compete with Drogba and Anelka and eventually become the main man up top when he adapts to the EPL.. Also, need a strong right sided midfielder and CM.. why not Milner?
Paulo Ferreira is not world-class, but he's a great third choice full back and he seems pretty comfortable in that role, so hope he stays (he recently said he wants to end his career at Chelsea).
Deco and Beletti have both announced already that they are returning to Brazil at the end of the season.
Milner would be a nice replacement for Ballack.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 26, 2010, 11:51:04 AM
Thank you and goodbye Michael Ballack... Same goes to Paulo Ferreira, Deco, and Beletti.. These men are past their sell by date.
Besides the youths, they also need to bring in some good young talent because the core of the side is aging. Lampard and Drogba are on the wrong side of 30 and I think Anelka's best season just went past him. Players like that often excel in a world cup year then taper off.
Would like to see Aguero come in to compete with Drogba and Anelka and eventually become the main man up top when he adapts to the EPL.. Also, need a strong right sided midfielder and CM.. why not Milner?
I think Lampard, Drogs and Anelka still have at least a couple good years left in them, which is why I think they lookin' to start bringin' in them yutes NOW. (remember, Drogba got his start in professional football late, so he wouln't have the typical wear and tear for his age) The other names you mentioned, I agree, BE GONE! You did a lot to thank them. I think Ballack would leave with a grin on his face!
Thank you and goodbye Michael Ballack... Same goes to Paulo Ferreira, Deco, and Beletti.. These men are past their sell by date.
Would like to see Aguero come in to compete with Drogba and Anelka and eventually become the main man up top when he adapts to the EPL.. Also, need a strong right sided midfielder and CM.. why not Milner?
Paulo Ferreira is not world-class, but he's a great third choice full back and he seems pretty comfortable in that role, so hope he stays (he recently said he wants to end his career at Chelsea).
therefore he should recognize that his career has en.........he has gotten his wish!
Deco and Beletti have both announced already that they are returning to Brazil at the end of the season.
BUH-BYE!
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 26, 2010, 11:51:59 AM
please doh eff up against liverpool n give manu their most undeserved title in fergies career
Post by: Blue on April 26, 2010, 11:56:39 AM
He already announced that they are going to be bringing up a few young players from the academy next season http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html) and JOM recently signed an extension to his contract, (+ he love the London night :party: :wavetowel: life ) so I don't expect him to leave any time soon.
**besides.....you KNOW Abramovic is the man really callin' de shots, so if he say bring up some yutes.....Ancelotti will be visitin' a nursery!! :devil:**
My opinion on the youth team players that I have seen this season:
Kakuta -a star in the making. Saw him make his debut against Wolves...worth every bit of the hype.
Bruma - looks like a decent center back. Would be happy for him to play a few more games in the first team next season.
Hutchinson - saw him play at both center back and full back. Looks good enough to be a full member of our first team.
Matic - big strong defensive midfielder, but was anonymous in every game I saw him in, Admittedly he never really got more than 10 minutes as a sub. Cant rate him properly based on all dem cobo sweat.
Sturridge - no longer a youth team player, but I still dont rate him at all. Refuses to play one touch football, starts dribbling whenever is given the ball...I am convinced he grew up sweating small goal football in Trinidad.
Borrini - a next youth team striker. he is $h!t too, hopefully we get rid of him.
Post by: big dawg on April 26, 2010, 11:57:10 AM
Thank you and goodbye Michael Ballack... Same goes to Paulo Ferreira, Deco, and Beletti.. These men are past their sell by date.
Besides the youths, they also need to bring in some good young talent because the core of the side is aging. Lampard and Drogba are on the wrong side of 30 and I think Anelka's best season just went past him. Players like that often excel in a world cup year then taper off.
Would like to see Aguero come in to compete with Drogba and Anelka and eventually become the main man up top when he adapts to the EPL.. Also, need a strong right sided midfielder and CM.. why not Milner?
yuh ehh lie about these two fuh sure.. In Ballack's defence, as a man just pointed out, has not been in his natural position since coming to the Blues...
But Deco..coommmonnn.... way past his expiry date. If they get him out on a free tranfer,,even that go be a plus..
:beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 26, 2010, 12:24:35 PM
He already announced that they are going to be bringing up a few young players from the academy next season http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html) and JOM recently signed an extension to his contract, (+ he love the London night :party: :wavetowel: life ) so I don't expect him to leave any time soon.
**besides.....you KNOW Abramovic is the man really callin' de shots, so if he say bring up some yutes.....Ancelotti will be visitin' a nursery!! :devil:**
My opinion on the youth team players that I have seen this season:
Kakuta -a star in the making. Saw him make his debut against Wolves...worth every bit of the hype.
Bruma - looks like a decent center back. Would be happy for him to play a few more games in the first team next season.
Hutchinson - saw him play at both center back and full back. Looks good enough to be a full member of our first team.
Matic - big strong defensive midfielder, but was anonymous in every game I saw him in, Admittedly he never really got more than 10 minutes as a sub. Cant rate him properly based on all dem cobo sweat.
Sturridge - no longer a youth team player, but I still dont rate him at all. Refuses to play one touch football, starts dribbling whenever is given the ball...I am convinced he grew up sweating small goal football in Trinidad.
Borrini - a next youth team striker. he is $h!t too, hopefully we get rid of him.
Kakuta is frighteningly talented and, as you put it, a star in the making.
even though I haven't seen them, I am glad to hear that there is some central defenders on the horizon. Terry is getting noticeably slower as the seasons wear on and Carvalho is probably past his best he has to offer.
I eh worried about Sturridge. He is still very young and he seems hungry. Whatever he need to learn, I think he's surrounded by a good group of players to bring him along.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 26, 2010, 02:23:04 PM
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2010, 02:31:16 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Same here.. If anything i could see him move a lil further up and get involved in more of the creative play like how he looks for Nigeria.. But outside of his CDM role, never really see him pipe on from distance or thread a bess ball.. Essien is the man that could easily operate in attacking midfield though.. He could probably play anywhere, goalkeeper and all..
Mikel still plenty better than Song though. :devil: :devil:
Post by: Blue on April 26, 2010, 02:50:20 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Same here.. If anything i could see him move a lil further up and get involved in more of the creative play like how he looks for Nigeria.. But outside of his CDM role, never really see him pipe on from distance or thread a bess ball.. Essien is the man that could easily operate in attacking midfield though.. He could probably play anywhere, goalkeeper and all..
Mikel still plenty better than Song though. :devil: :devil:
I doh understand how anyone would want to play Mikel as an attacking midfielder. He has no dribbling skills and if his vision were any worse he would be legally blind.
To me, there is no comparison between Essien and Mikel. Essien is a supreme footballer, and has played exceptionally well in attacking midfield, defensive midfield, right back and central defence for us. Mikel is an alright defensive midfielder.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
He already announced that they are going to be bringing up a few young players from the academy next season http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6112611,00.html) and JOM recently signed an extension to his contract, (+ he love the London night :party: :wavetowel: life ) so I don't expect him to leave any time soon.
**besides.....you KNOW Abramovic is the man really callin' de shots, so if he say bring up some yutes.....Ancelotti will be visitin' a nursery!! :devil:**
My opinion on the youth team players that I have seen this season:
Kakuta -a star in the making. Saw him make his debut against Wolves...worth every bit of the hype.
Bruma - looks like a decent center back. Would be happy for him to play a few more games in the first team next season.
Hutchinson - saw him play at both center back and full back. Looks good enough to be a full member of our first team.
Matic - big strong defensive midfielder, but was anonymous in every game I saw him in, Admittedly he never really got more than 10 minutes as a sub. Cant rate him properly based on all dem cobo sweat.
Sturridge - no longer a youth team player, but I still dont rate him at all. Refuses to play one touch football, starts dribbling whenever is given the ball...I am convinced he grew up sweating small goal football in Trinidad.
Borrini - a next youth team striker. he is $h!t too, hopefully we get rid of him.
Hopefully Carlos start all of them against Liverstool! :devil: :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 02:57:57 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 26, 2010, 03:07:59 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Same here.. If anything i could see him move a lil further up and get involved in more of the creative play like how he looks for Nigeria.. But outside of his CDM role, never really see him pipe on from distance or thread a bess ball.. Essien is the man that could easily operate in attacking midfield though.. He could probably play anywhere, goalkeeper and all..
Mikel still plenty better than Song though. :devil: :devil:
I doh understand how anyone would want to play Mikel as an attacking midfielder. He has no dribbling skills and if his vision were any worse he would be legally blind.
To me, there is no comparison between Essien and Mikel. Essien is a supreme footballer, and has played exceptionally well in attacking midfield, defensive midfield, right back and central defence for us. Mikel is an alright defensive midfielder.
Me an ah nexx bredrin was talkin dat de odda day an he say de same ting. His only saving grace is that he's young and he looks fairly comfortable in the holding CM spot. Apart from dat is one setta back pass and he does look clumsy in my estimation.
Dihno I agree Essien could play anywey on de pitch in ah pinch oui.
Giggsy I sorry fuh Chow an dat oui, I eh ah believer yet
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 26, 2010, 03:35:30 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Buss out the tapes/You tube Chow educate them.
Post by: dumpalewie on April 26, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
:devil: :devil:I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Same here.. If anything i could see him move a lil further up and get involved in more of the creative play like how he looks for Nigeria.. But outside of his CDM role, never really see him pipe on from distance or thread a bess ball.. Essien is the man that could easily operate in attacking midfield though.. He could probably play anywhere, goalkeeper and all..
Mikel still plenty better than Song though. :devil: :devil:
I was just reading quietly until you threw this bait.
Anyway, I was really conflicted about 'if not us then who?' I decided that as much as I dislike the buy a championship mentality of Chelsea, I would rather you win the PL title.
Like someone else said, please prevent SAF from winning the title with one of his shittiest teams ever!!!
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 27, 2010, 09:02:09 AM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
Post by: giggsy11 on April 27, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
Not trying to speak for Chow but I think he appears to be basing his opinions the potential he observed when Mikel was bussin it up and also the fact that Chelski is not doing enough to help him fulfil that potential based on how they play him. I actually feel the sam way about Anderson, I really don't think that United have played Anderson in a position to take advantage of his strengths. They just decided to try the boy in midfield as a defensive midfielder when he has really good attacking qualities.
PS: is not like we are working Lucas' level of talent here!
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 27, 2010, 11:12:46 AM
I could work with that. Is de same argument with Ballack fuh me. I always been ah fan and I seen what he could do countless times when used correctly. Since he been at Chelsea is either RM or sometimes CDM. He too slow to play up de line in my book and he eh ha no business at CDM buh wha yuh go do. Hopefully Mikel get a chance to play higher up the pitch in an offensive role so we can see what Chow seen. It might be tough still doh because Kalou might be growing on Ancellotti and if J. Cole get re-signed then is ah wrap. He will be stuck at CDM. He better learn to shoot so he could challenge Anelka fuh he spot.I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
Not trying to speak for Chow but I think he appears to be basing his opinions the potential he observed when Mikel was bussin it up and also the fact that Chelski is not doing enough to help him fulfil that potential based on how they play him. I actually feel the sam way about Anderson, I really don't think that United have played Anderson in a position to take advantage of his strengths. They just decided to try the boy in midfield as a defensive midfielder when he has really good attacking qualities.
He still betta dan da shit song de gunners does sing doh :D
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 27, 2010, 07:31:48 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
I doh smoke no spliff, fella, and my vision is better than 20/20.
Sinema Pongolle wasn't asked/forced to play out of position for club or country.
If all you have seen is Mikel makin' back passes only, then you simply haven't paid attention to what he does. I can vaguely remember at least two goals that Drogba have scored in the last two months that were deft long range passes from Mikel. Or it might have been one goal and an easy chance. Mikel plays somewhat simple but his possession and passing is sublime. I don't know what y'all are looking for that y'all don't see it, but the boy has a very artful way of creating space for himself and making the not-so-obvious pass to his advancing teammates. He is not in a position from a defensive mid to make the through-ball pass to split defenses and I hope that is not what some of you are basing your assessment of him having "no offensive intuition" on. He is one of the youngest members of the Nigerian senior team where, at 23, he has been wearing the #10 shirt for the last 4-5 years. What does that tell you? 34 appearances, shortened "only" by ill discipline. You will see the difference in 6 weeks.....unless Nigeria play him like Chelsea.
The problem is, that if Chelsea were to play him in a more attacking role, them english defenders will mash 'im up. Trust me on that.
I could work with that. Is de same argument with Ballack fuh me. I always been ah fan and I seen what he could do countless times when used correctly. Since he been at Chelsea is either RM or sometimes CDM. He too slow to play up de line in my book and he eh ha no business at CDM buh wha yuh go do. Hopefully Mikel get a chance to play higher up the pitch in an offensive role so we can see what Chow seen. It might be tough still doh because Kalou might be growing on Ancellotti and if J. Cole get re-signed then is ah wrap. He will be stuck at CDM. He better learn to shoot so he could challenge Anelka fuh he spot.I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
Not trying to speak for Chow but I think he appears to be basing his opinions the potential he observed when Mikel was bussin it up and also the fact that Chelski is not doing enough to help him fulfil that potential based on how they play him. I actually feel the sam way about Anderson, I really don't think that United have played Anderson in a position to take advantage of his strengths. They just decided to try the boy in midfield as a defensive midfielder when he has really good attacking qualities.
He still betta dan da shit song de gunners does sing doh :D
Ballack's game is simply not suited to the pace and confinement of life in the midfield in the EPL. He is a man that plays best when he is allowed tame and space with the ball, as we saw against Stoke the other day. He cannot defend and he is relatively slow. His best club days are behind him in Germany or he have a few remaining in front of him somewhere else. Not here now at Chelsea.
I do agree, Mikel's shooting is very poor and he needs to work on that big time!
Post by: elan on April 27, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
I doh smoke no spliff, fella, and my vision is better than 20/20.
Sinema Pongolle wasn't asked/forced to play out of position for club or country.
If all you have seen is Mikel makin' back passes only, then you simply haven't paid attention to what he does. I can vaguely remember at least two goals that Drogba have scored in the last two months that were deft long range passes from Mikel. Or it might have been one goal and an easy chance. Mikel plays somewhat simple but his possession and passing is sublime. I don't know what y'all are looking for that y'all don't see it, but the boy has a very artful way of creating space for himself and making the not-so-obvious pass to his advancing teammates. He is not in a position from a defensive mid to make the through-ball pass to split defenses and I hope that is not what some of you are basing your assessment of him having "no offensive intuition" on. He is one of the youngest members of the Nigerian senior team where, at 23, he has been wearing the #10 shirt for the last 4-5 years. What does that tell you? 34 appearances, shortened "only" by ill discipline. You will see the difference in 6 weeks.....unless Nigeria play him like Chelsea.
The problem is, that if Chelsea were to play him in a more attacking role, them english defenders will mash 'im up. Trust me on that.I could work with that. Is de same argument with Ballack fuh me. I always been ah fan and I seen what he could do countless times when used correctly. Since he been at Chelsea is either RM or sometimes CDM. He too slow to play up de line in my book and he eh ha no business at CDM buh wha yuh go do. Hopefully Mikel get a chance to play higher up the pitch in an offensive role so we can see what Chow seen. It might be tough still doh because Kalou might be growing on Ancellotti and if J. Cole get re-signed then is ah wrap. He will be stuck at CDM. He better learn to shoot so he could challenge Anelka fuh he spot.I doh kno bout dis Mikel thing nah. I honestly have never been impressed by him. I think he is solid but I doh see any offensive intuition in him.
Watch yuh mouth, dise Chow steps son-he invest years of watching and scouting with young Mikel. He even gettin a cut! :devil:
These is fellas who obviously only see him play in a Chelsea shirt and nothing else. "No dribbling skills. No offensive intuition." Even as fellow Chelsea fans ah hadda tell dem dey full ah shit.
If I show them the tape of the U-20 World Cup Final where he was leaving Argentinians in his wake whole game they would be singin' another song.
Mikel is playing the role Chelsea is asking him to play, and that's it. It speaks of his versatility that he is an offensive (attacking midfielder) for his country at youth and senior levels and Chelsea has him playing a defensive midfield.....and he is considered one of the best (at least in the EPL) at his position. Allyuh men need to do some real research.
Pass da spliff fella. Chow doh mash meh up nah. I admit I haven't seen him in country kit buh keep dis in mind, it ha rell fellas look rell good in de earlies fuh country and fade fuh one reason or another. Sinema Pongolle always comes to mind. Yuh remember him as ah youth player? He looked like he woulda be something to reckon with, yet where is he now? I like Mikel but I need to see more to share your enthusiasm. At CDM he is decent. At times he does look wild and clumsy to me. If he has such a strong offensive game den why he does look so shakey advancing the ball so often? Whaz wid all de back passes?
Not trying to speak for Chow but I think he appears to be basing his opinions the potential he observed when Mikel was bussin it up and also the fact that Chelski is not doing enough to help him fulfil that potential based on how they play him. I actually feel the sam way about Anderson, I really don't think that United have played Anderson in a position to take advantage of his strengths. They just decided to try the boy in midfield as a defensive midfielder when he has really good attacking qualities.
He still betta dan da shit song de gunners does sing doh :D
Ballack's game is simply not suited to the pace and confinement of life in the midfield in the EPL. He is a man that plays best when he is allowed tame and space with the ball, as we saw against Stoke the other day. He cannot defend and he is relatively slow. His best club days are behind him in Germany or he have a few remaining in front of him somewhere else. Not here now at Chelsea.
I do agree, Mikel's shooting is very poor and he needs to work on that big time!
The big thing about OJM is the space he can create when in possession and the holes he fills when not in posession. To many of us watch the game and only follow the ball or miss many of the more sophisticated aspects of the game. Mikel is not on the pitch by chance, his ability is greatly understood and made use of. The only thing is there is another great player ahead of him in Essien. To say he can't or don't regularly make forward passes is to not truly understand what this player does.
Post by: Blue on April 28, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
The big thing about OJM is the space he can create when in possession and the holes he fills when not in posession. To many of us watch the game and only follow the ball or miss many of the more sophisticated aspects of the game. Mikel is not on the pitch by chance, his ability is greatly understood and made use of. The only thing is there is another great player ahead of him in Essien. To say he can't or don't regularly make forward passes is to not truly understand what this player does.
I guess Drogba doh understand either, I have seen him boof Mikel on the pitch for not playing the right ball several times.
By the way, who is OJM? I have seen JOM, MJO and JMO, but OJM is new ;D
Post by: elan on April 28, 2010, 10:07:08 AM
The big thing about OJM is the space he can create when in possession and the holes he fills when not in posession. To many of us watch the game and only follow the ball or miss many of the more sophisticated aspects of the game. Mikel is not on the pitch by chance, his ability is greatly understood and made use of. The only thing is there is another great player ahead of him in Essien. To say he can't or don't regularly make forward passes is to not truly understand what this player does.
I guess Drogba doh understand either, I have seen him boof Mikel on the pitch for not playing the right ball several times.
By the way, who is OJM? I have seen JOM, MJO and JMO, but OJM is new ;D
Yeah I call him OJM after talking with some African about him. ???
Everybody does get boof sometime, cyah read nothing into that.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2010, 08:19:48 PM
The big thing about OJM is the space he can create when in possession and the holes he fills when not in posession. To many of us watch the game and only follow the ball or miss many of the more sophisticated aspects of the game. Mikel is not on the pitch by chance, his ability is greatly understood and made use of. The only thing is there is another great player ahead of him in Essien. To say he can't or don't regularly make forward passes is to not truly understand what this player does.
I guess Drogba doh understand either, I have seen him boof Mikel on the pitch for not playing the right ball several times.
....have you also seen them celebrate together when Drogba scores?
Post by: Blue on April 29, 2010, 03:11:29 PM
Forlan jus gone and buss de net tho....was hopin Pool wud win to further distract them on Sunday
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 29, 2010, 09:19:08 PM
The big thing about OJM is the space he can create when in possession and the holes he fills when not in posession. To many of us watch the game and only follow the ball or miss many of the more sophisticated aspects of the game. Mikel is not on the pitch by chance, his ability is greatly understood and made use of. The only thing is there is another great player ahead of him in Essien. To say he can't or don't regularly make forward passes is to not truly understand what this player does.
I guess Drogba doh understand either, I have seen him boof Mikel on the pitch for not playing the right ball several times.
By the way, who is OJM? I have seen JOM, MJO and JMO, but OJM is new ;D
Yeah I call him OJM after talking with some African about him. ???
He say he prefer to be called MJO....but I find it easier to call 'im JOM.
Post by: elan on April 29, 2010, 10:25:36 PM
£40m Sergio Aguero heading to Chelsea
Soccernet.com
April 29, 2010
Atletico Madrid's Argentine striker Sergio Aguero has already agreed a £40 million summer transfer move to Chelsea, according to ESPNsoccernet sources.
A top Premier League manager told Soccernet of the transfer as Aguero lined up for his club in the Europa League semi-final against Liverpool and maintained that it was common knowledge within the game that the deal was on its way.
"The word is that Aguero is going to Chelsea - it's a done deal at £40 million," he said.
Aguero was close to a move to Stamford Bridge in the January transfer window but Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti was convinced that his squad were capable of winning the league without a huge investment and the price for the striker quoted at the time was £50 million.
However, Atletico Madrid's financial situation has worsened since, while the player is reportedly more relaxed about a move in the summer with more time to settle in to live in London after the World Cup.
Only recently Aguero was quoted as saying how much he admires players such as Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba, which was naturally interpreted as a 'come and get me' message to the Blues.
"Chelsea are a great club,'' Aguero was quoted as saying. ''They have become one of the most feared in Europe over recent years. London would be a really amazing city to live in as well - myself and my wife could be really happy there."
Aguero - signed by Atletico in 2006 - has been likened to the legendary Diego Maradona for his playing style. Ironically he is now engaged to Giannina Maradona (Diego's daughter) and is fighting for a place in the Argentina manager's World Cup team.
Post by: Blue on April 30, 2010, 12:06:08 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 08:04:52 AM
Post by: Bitter on May 02, 2010, 08:06:44 AM
But then, yuh does only make a setta noise if yuh insecure...
Post by: sammy on May 02, 2010, 08:18:04 AM
Liverpool look out of it and in all fairness, they can't possibly be on the same energy level as we today. Wigan just might be a tougher test for us next week. Tree points, two games left to win! Blue is de colour!.
with only seeing the first half.....liverpool doh even deserve to play allyuh....they shoulda forfeit
Post by: lefty on May 02, 2010, 08:19:53 AM
Allyuh quiet.
But then, yuh does only make a setta noise if yuh insecure...
but u self one set ah goods we win pass without ah talk on dis thread we doh hah to suck d team balls every time we winnin like in some other threads ::)
Post by: Babalawo on May 09, 2010, 07:12:17 AM
Post by: lefty on May 09, 2010, 07:23:31 AM
celebration today.
ayeaye.....doh jinx it >:(
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
Post by: samo on May 09, 2010, 07:47:06 AM
Post by: sammy on May 09, 2010, 08:13:05 AM
Let's GO Chelsea!!! Take back we title...
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2010, 08:22:22 AM
Let's GO Chelsea!!! Take back we title...
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:devil:
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 09, 2010, 08:42:13 AM
:thumbsdown:Let's GO Chelsea!!! Take back we title...
your title??
Enjoy your 4th EPL title?.. pathetic
we'll be back to win our 19th next season..keep it warm... imagine United were the poorest they ever were this season and we still blew it...Chelsea is complete shit... We lost Tevez and Ronaldo and had the worst injury crisis we've had in years and still manage to keep up with Chelsea this season who we all thought would run away with it...If we win this league today I will never stop laughing at your mediocre club
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 09:05:22 AM
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Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 09:10:03 AM
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 09:24:42 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on May 09, 2010, 09:35:52 AM
Berbatov need a bush bath.
No he need another side! of all the damn players the opportunite fallin to1 He probably shit his pants already!
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 09:36:43 AM
Post by: rickstaa on May 09, 2010, 09:37:17 AM
Post by: samo on May 09, 2010, 09:58:10 AM
Same thing people cuss Yorke for when he give Stern the penalty...
In a crucial game, leading only 1-0.. You have to go with yuh penalty taker, no time for sentiements now..
Post by: giggsy11 on May 09, 2010, 10:00:51 AM
I is a man like Lampard and everyting eh......but if I was in he shoes I was lettin' Drogba take dah penalty.
Yuh man selfish!
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 10:03:28 AM
Yuh cannot let Drogba take that penalty... Now if we get a nx one, different story..
Same thing people cuss Yorke for when he give Stern the penalty...
In a crucial game, leading only 1-0.. You have to go with yuh penalty taker, no time for sentiements now..
Comparing Yorke, Stern and Trinidad to Lampard Drogba and Chelsea is apples and oranges, padnah. Drogba can take penalties......and he takes good ones, too. At this level, every player on this team should be able and expected to easily put away a penalty, sentiment or not.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 10:06:25 AM
I is a man like Lampard and everyting eh......but if I was in he shoes I was lettin' Drogba take dah penalty.
Yuh man selfish!
Hush yuh mout'!......you and DieHard eh have some cryin' to do on dat other "forever" tread? Where she is? :devil:
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:15:44 AM
Yuh cannot let Drogba take that penalty... Now if we get a nx one, different story..
Same thing people cuss Yorke for when he give Stern the penalty...
In a crucial game, leading only 1-0.. You have to go with yuh penalty taker, no time for sentiements now..
Comparing Yorke, Stern and Trinidad to Lampard Drogba and Chelsea is apples and oranges, padnah. Drogba can take penalties......and he takes good ones, too. At this level, every player on this team should be able and expected to easily put away a penalty, sentiment or not.
... unless they playing for England in a big FIFA tournament. ::)
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Now is just for Drogba to stop being sour and score the 100th.
Bring on Scotty!
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 10:20:21 AM
Yuh cannot let Drogba take that penalty... Now if we get a nx one, different story..
Same thing people cuss Yorke for when he give Stern the penalty...
In a crucial game, leading only 1-0.. You have to go with yuh penalty taker, no time for sentiements now..
Comparing Yorke, Stern and Trinidad to Lampard Drogba and Chelsea is apples and oranges, padnah. Drogba can take penalties......and he takes good ones, too. At this level, every player on this team should be able and expected to easily put away a penalty, sentiment or not.
... unless they playing for England in a big FIFA tournament. ::)
Yuh DAM RITE!! Drogba doh play fuh England so both ah we theory hold true. ;)
Post by: Jay10 on May 09, 2010, 10:21:32 AM
Post by: Babalawo on May 09, 2010, 10:21:46 AM
4-0 :wavetowel: :peace: :cheers:same thing i saying now lol
Now is just for Drogba to stop being sour and score the 100th.
Bring on Scotty!
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:23:58 AM
EPL Title
100 Goals in the EPL
Golden Boot 27 (So far)
Golden Glove for Cech
Post by: Babalawo on May 09, 2010, 10:24:57 AM
DROGBAAAAAAA!!!!!the bicycle woulda been sweeter lol
100 Goals in the EPL
Golden Boot
Golden Glove
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 10:25:51 AM
DROGBAAAAAAA!!!!!
100 Goals in the EPL
Golden Boot
Golden Glove
Great save be the Wigan 'keeper!! If dat bicycle woulda score it woulda had riot at the Stamford Bridge!!
Post by: big dawg on May 09, 2010, 10:27:05 AM
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:27:44 AM
Doh miss eh Drogs...
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:29:10 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
Who going to take this penalty now? ???
Doh miss eh Drogs...
What ah tell allyuh?! I know my players, Boss! ;D
Post by: sammy on May 09, 2010, 10:31:37 AM
onward to the world cup - go england/germany!
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:32:29 AM
Who going to take this penalty now? ???
Doh miss eh Drogs...
What ah tell allyuh?! I know my players, Boss! ;D
When the score is 5-0 yeah...
Not when it was 1-0
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
Who going to take this penalty now? ???
Doh miss eh Drogs...
What ah tell allyuh?! I know my players, Boss! ;D
When the score is 5-0 yeah...
Not when it was 1-0
.....and my point was, with Drogba's efficiency, it wouldn'ta mattered if Chelsea were down!
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 10:44:27 AM
Sir Alex!
(http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/match-centre/article176595.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/Alex+Ferguson.jpeg)
??
(http://fantacancio.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/ance.jpg)
Tell me how my ass taste?
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Post by: Cantona007 on May 09, 2010, 10:56:14 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2010, 11:00:50 AM
Congratlations to Chelsea Football Club and its supporters.
Thank you. :beermug:
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 09, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
Post by: xixgon on May 09, 2010, 11:14:41 AM
It's been one of the strangest title races; but Utd pushed you hard and did well all things considered. Hopefully they can strengthen, cut some dead weight and subsequently be more consistent next season.
Cheers :beermug:
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 09, 2010, 11:19:34 AM
Congrats Chelsea - you earned it down the stretch. Most goals ever in a Premier League season and 2nd best defensive record - the demolition today was just an exclamation point. Drogba winning the Golden Boot probably hurt more than losing the title at this point honestly :)
It's been one of the strangest title races; but Utd pushed you hard and did well all things considered. Hopefully they can strengthen, cut some dead weight and subsequently be more consistent next season.
Cheers :beermug:
couldnt said it better myself...
:beermug: :beermug:
keep it warm rent boys...it'll only be there for a year
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 11:25:14 AM
Congrats Chelsea - you earned it down the stretch. Most goals ever in a Premier League season and 2nd best defensive record - the demolition today was just an exclamation point. Drogba winning the Golden Boot probably hurt more than losing the title at this point honestly :)
It's been one of the strangest title races; but Utd pushed you hard and did well all things considered. Hopefully they can strengthen, cut some dead weight and subsequently be more consistent next season.
Cheers :beermug:
couldnt said it better myself...
:beermug: :beermug:
keep it warm rent boys...it'll only be there for a year
Allyuh doh come with all that magnanimous ting now.
Feel the love!
(http://fantacancio.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/ance.jpg)
Tell me how my ass taste?
Post by: big dawg on May 09, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
Congrats Chelsea - you earned it down the stretch. Most goals ever in a Premier League season and 2nd best defensive record - the demolition today was just an exclamation point. Drogba winning the Golden Boot probably hurt more than losing the title at this point honestly :)
It's been one of the strangest title races; but Utd pushed you hard and did well all things considered. Hopefully they can strengthen, cut some dead weight and subsequently be more consistent next season.
Cheers :beermug:
couldnt said it better myself...
:beermug: :beermug:
keep it warm rent boys...it'll only be there for a year
Allyuh doh come with all that magnanimous ting now.
Feel the love!
(http://fantacancio.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/ance.jpg)
Tell me how my ass taste?
:rotfl:
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 09, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
Post by: Big Magician on May 09, 2010, 11:51:46 AM
Post by: lefty on May 09, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
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Post by: The_Ice on May 09, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
Post by: boss on May 09, 2010, 12:33:32 PM
Post by: Trinidogg on May 09, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
Post by: Blue on May 09, 2010, 12:50:14 PM
:thumbsdown:Let's GO Chelsea!!! Take back we title...
your title??
Enjoy your 4th EPL title?.. pathetic
we'll be back to win our 19th next season..keep it warm... imagine United were the poorest they ever were this season and we still blew it...Chelsea is complete shit... We lost Tevez and Ronaldo and had the worst injury crisis we've had in years and still manage to keep up with Chelsea this season who we all thought would run away with it...If we win this league today I will never stop laughing at your mediocre club
Small Mag, please change the title of your Man Utd thread. It is misleading. You are not champions. And you do not act like champions
Just got home from Palance Central (aka Stamford Bridge). Talk about winning in style. We were pretty poor first half and were lucky to be up 2-0 at half time. Wigan actually weren't all dat bad. But second half....some of the most attractive football I have ever seen. Kalou was great today and kicked off de title celebrations wid his goal. And when Anelka hit that incredible volley it was pandemonium.
Big up to Man Utd for pushing us to the end, you brought the best out of us :beermug:
A quick recap:
Biggest Chelsea victory ever
FOURTH 7+ goal performance in 4 months.
2009-2010 Top Scorers
First 100+ goal Premiership season
All Time Premiership Top Scorers
2009-2010 Top Scorer
2009-2010 Best Goalkeeper (most clean sheets)
2009-2010 CHAMPIONS :beermug: :beermug:
Was lucky enough to have a good view of de celebrations...
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Post by: Jumbie on May 09, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 09, 2010, 01:32:16 PM
:thumbsdown:Let's GO Chelsea!!! Take back we title...
your title??
Enjoy your 4th EPL title?.. pathetic
we'll be back to win our 19th next season..keep it warm... imagine United were the poorest they ever were this season and we still blew it...Chelsea is complete shit... We lost Tevez and Ronaldo and had the worst injury crisis we've had in years and still manage to keep up with Chelsea this season who we all thought would run away with it...If we win this league today I will never stop laughing at your mediocre club
i wish man u fans wud stop boastin about havin 18 league titles.....my ass. winin a title in 1908 an 1910 and dem years where u, yuh parents and yuh grandparents didnt even born yet, it not relevant to d football of dese times. allyuh gettin on like in 1908 etc d league was how it was now.
take allyuh loss like big men and stop boastin bout titles that man u wud have won when yuh granfather was still in he father back.
cheslea to d world!
8)
Post by: weary1969 on May 09, 2010, 01:44:13 PM
Congrats to the Champs.
Co-signnnnn
Post by: dinho on May 09, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
In addition to what was already said.. against the EPL top 4.. Played 6, Won 6.. and you have the gall to call this team shit? show some blasted scruples nuh.. That man utd were able to keep it this close with that shitty one man side is a credit, but make no mistake Chelsea are the deserved champions anyway and anyhow how yuh try to look at it..
All this long tears talk and excuses about injuries and selling Ronaldo and Tevez.. We played a whole season without one of our (if not the) best player on the team.. Michael Essien... Ivanovic has been makeshifting at right back all season.. we played long periods without Ashley Cole and Bosingwa, half our team went African Nations for a month and on top of that the John Terry and Ashley Cole chronicles.. We also didnt buy anybody of note, and still we dominate the league!!
CHELSEA = CHAMPIONS!!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
CechColeTerryAlexIvanovicMaloudaLampardBallackKalouDrogbaAnelkaPost by: Observer on May 09, 2010, 02:27:20 PM
Small Mag, go in a corner and hug up ah man utd teddy bear or something and leave the celebrations to the fans of the best team in the league..
In addition to what was already said.. against the EPL top 4.. Played 6, Won 6.. and you have the gall to call this team shit? show some blasted scruples nuh.. That man utd were able to keep it this close with that shitty one man side is a credit, but make no mistake Chelsea are the deserved champions anyway and anyhow how yuh try to look at it..
All this long tears talk and excuses about injuries and selling Ronaldo and Tevez.. We played a whole season without one of our (if not the) best player on the team.. Michael Essien... Ivanovic has been makeshifting at right back all season.. we played long periods without Ashley Cole and Bosingwa, half our team went African Nations for a month and on top of that the John Terry and Ashley Cole chronicles.. We also didnt buy anybody of note, and still we dominate the league!!CHELSEA = CHAMPIONS!!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
Well said! Congratulations to Chelsea :applause:
Post by: just cool on May 09, 2010, 02:27:55 PM
Small Mag, go in a corner and hug up ah man utd teddy bear or something and leave the celebrations to the fans of the best team in the league..Couldn't have said it any better. :beermug:
In addition to what was already said.. against the EPL top 4.. Played 6, Won 6.. and you have the gall to call this team shit? show some blasted scruples nuh.. That man utd were able to keep it this close with that shitty one man side is a credit, but make no mistake Chelsea are the deserved champions anyway and anyhow how yuh try to look at it..
All this long tears talk and excuses about injuries and selling Ronaldo and Tevez.. We played a whole season without one of our (if not the) best player on the team.. Michael Essien... Ivanovic has been makeshifting at right back all season.. we played long periods without Ashley Cole and Bosingwa, half our team went African Nations for a month and on top of that the John Terry and Ashley Cole chronicles.. We also didnt buy anybody of note, and still we dominate the league!!CHELSEA = CHAMPIONS!!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 09, 2010, 02:38:14 PM
:thumbsdown:Let's GO Chelsea!!! Take back we title...
your title??
Enjoy your 4th EPL title?.. pathetic
we'll be back to win our 19th next season..keep it warm... imagine United were the poorest they ever were this season and we still blew it...Chelsea is complete shit... We lost Tevez and Ronaldo and had the worst injury crisis we've had in years and still manage to keep up with Chelsea this season who we all thought would run away with it...If we win this league today I will never stop laughing at your mediocre club
i wish man u fans wud stop boastin about havin 18 league titles.....my ass. winin a title in 1908 an 1910 and dem years where u, yuh parents and yuh grandparents didnt even born yet, it not relevant to d football of dese times. allyuh gettin on like in 1908 etc d league was how it was now.
take allyuh loss like big men and stop boastin bout titles that man u wud have won when yuh granfather was still in he father back.
cheslea to d world!
8)
ok how about 11 prems compared to your 4... that recent enough for you
Post by: Bitter on May 09, 2010, 03:41:14 PM
ok how about 11 prems compared to your 4... that recent enough for you
Them grapes eh sweet at all eh?
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Tell me how my ass taste?
Post by: kicker on May 09, 2010, 03:49:56 PM
Hope Essien can get fit for the World Cup- would be a shame if he missed it.
Post by: lefty on May 09, 2010, 04:06:40 PM
Well done Chelsea- Congrats.... shoulda won the title easier this season to be honest... Some would say Man U pushed them- to me it was more like Chelsea refused to bury it when they had the chance with some dodgy inconsistent performances. Man U was by their standards uninspiring at crucial moments and for long spells this year.....plus they struggled with injuries even more so than Chelsea I would say...to me they were lucky to still be in the race today- but Chelsea as expected made no mistake down the stretch and deservedly won the title- good season.
Hope Essien can get fit for the World Cup- would be a shame if he missed it.
my sentiments exactly dis shoulda be luck up long time..........
Post by: dinho on May 09, 2010, 07:02:59 PM
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A lil something for de detractors.. :devil: :devil:
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Post by: AirMan on May 09, 2010, 07:32:06 PM
Post by: sammy on May 09, 2010, 07:35:27 PM
Chelsea fans does make me laugh til I cry yes :rotfl:..so I understand Man U cannot win the title EVERY year..so in a leap year or maybe one out of every seven years a team has to win the prem instead of Man U..:applause:
well said
:devil:
Post by: elan on May 09, 2010, 10:43:48 PM
Post by: Observer on May 10, 2010, 06:12:53 AM
Post by: sammy on May 10, 2010, 06:46:30 AM
Congratulations to Chelsea and Ancelotti in particular. Not an easy club to work with, but he pulled it off. Ancelotti name is seldom mentioned among the "greats of coaching," but he is and will go down in history as one of the best ever. :applause:
i know there was a post somewhere about 2 mourinho sides winning titles, however Jose failed to win with this side on his last attempts, so full credit to ancelotti.
Post by: Peong on May 10, 2010, 07:49:01 AM
This was an entertaining season :)
Post by: sammy on May 10, 2010, 08:13:47 AM
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is that mrs bridge with terry? :devil:
Post by: Daft Trini on May 10, 2010, 08:41:59 AM
Anyhow wigan should be relegated.... :beermug:
Chelski yes....
Post by: dinho on May 10, 2010, 08:43:38 AM
Post by: Brownsugar on May 10, 2010, 08:59:19 AM
She hair brown... he hair brown... and they have 2 blond kids...?
Hair colour....de woman most likely have it in she hair....well ah hope for Terry's sake dais the explanation.... :devil: ;D
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 10, 2010, 09:21:57 AM
103 goals is just disgustingly lethal
well done congrats
Post by: Observer on May 10, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
She hair brown... he hair brown... and they have 2 blond kids...?
Anyhow wigan should be relegated.... :beermug:
Chelski yes....
Yuh ever hear of grand parents, hereditary etc etc
Post by: giggsy11 on May 10, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
It was always going to be a tough ask of the United team based on its composition. I felt like Fergie flushed this season down the toilet by relying on to many uncertainties. The team was to unbalanced and the depth was deceptive. I don't want to read in his next autobiography that he regrets not strenghtening the team which resulted in the team pissing away a chance to win four in a row.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 10, 2010, 10:48:58 AM
As much as it pains me, congrats Chelski fans. Your team was better and the numbers in this case do not lie. Enjoy.
It was always going to be a tough ask of the United team based on its composition. I felt like Fergie flushed this season down the toilet by relying on to many uncertainties. The team was to unbalanced and the depth was deceptive. I don't want to read in his next autobiography that he regrets not strenghtening the team which resulted in the team pissing away a chance to win four in a row.
or making 3 champions league finals also :'(
Post by: Blue on May 10, 2010, 11:08:19 AM
Post by: Observer on May 10, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
Shoutout to all de Barca fans who love the joga bonito. If you score about 10 goals against Valladolid in yuh last game you can finish your season with more goals than us! ;D
Us!!! Wow! Inter score so many goals this season. Congrats :whistling:
Post by: Tongue on May 10, 2010, 12:03:57 PM
She hair brown... he hair brown... and they have 2 blond kids...?
Anyhow wigan should be relegated.... :beermug:
Chelski yes....
Yuh ever hear of grand parents, hereditary etc etc
or dye
Post by: Blue on May 10, 2010, 12:58:51 PM
Shoutout to all de Barca fans who love the joga bonito. If you score about 10 goals against Valladolid in yuh last game you can finish your season with more goals than us! ;D
Us!!! Wow! Inter score so many goals this season. Congrats :whistling:
Lol. I hadda get round to finding some kinda split logo ;D
For the record, I supported Inter since I was a kid, but now live near Chelsea. Would have said it was 50/50 until recently, but I went to the Chelsea-Inter game earlier in the season and realised that Chelsea are now my number 1 team :thumbsup:
(And yuh cah say I was glory seeking, cuz we lost lol)
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 10, 2010, 02:34:21 PM
Shoutout to all de Barca fans who love the joga bonito. If you score about 10 goals against Valladolid in yuh last game you can finish your season with more goals than us! ;D
Us!!! Wow! Inter score so many goals this season. Congrats :whistling:
Lol. I hadda get round to finding some kinda split logo ;D
For the record, I supported Inter since I was a kid, but now live near Chelsea. Would have said it was 50/50 until recently, but I went to the Chelsea-Inter game earlier in the season and realised that Chelsea are now my number 1 team :thumbsup:
(And yuh cah say I was glory seeking, cuz we lost lol)
lol you are a joke
Post by: Blue on May 10, 2010, 02:41:33 PM
Shoutout to all de Barca fans who love the joga bonito. If you score about 10 goals against Valladolid in yuh last game you can finish your season with more goals than us! ;D
Us!!! Wow! Inter score so many goals this season. Congrats :whistling:
Lol. I hadda get round to finding some kinda split logo ;D
For the record, I supported Inter since I was a kid, but now live near Chelsea. Would have said it was 50/50 until recently, but I went to the Chelsea-Inter game earlier in the season and realised that Chelsea are now my number 1 team :thumbsup:
(And yuh cah say I was glory seeking, cuz we lost lol)
lol you are a joke
Lol, I like to watch good football, but this isn't my life and neither Inter nor Chelsea are paying my bills.
You are too easily marketed to. Go back in yuh own thread and post something about some Man U sh!t yuh read on de internet.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 10, 2010, 03:03:02 PM
She hair brown... he hair brown... and they have 2 blond kids...?
Anyhow wigan should be relegated.... :beermug:
Chelski yes....
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Too funny!
Shoutout to all de Barca fans who love the joga bonito. If you score about 10 goals against Valladolid in yuh last game you can finish your season with more goals than us! ;D
Us!!! Wow! Inter score so many goals this season. Congrats :whistling:
Lol. I hadda get round to finding some kinda split logo ;D
For the record, I supported Inter since I was a kid, but now live near Chelsea. Would have said it was 50/50 until recently, but I went to the Chelsea-Inter game earlier in the season and realised that Chelsea are now my number 1 team :thumbsup:
(And yuh cah say I was glory seeking, cuz we lost lol)
lol you are a joke
Lol, I like to watch good football, but this isn't my life and neither Inter nor Chelsea are paying my bills.
You are too easily marketed to. Go back in yuh own thread and post something about some Man U sh!t yuh read on de internet.
Some people jess doesn't understand, Bredda........I vex you get to go dat game yesterday......given the atmosphere and the occasion at the Bridge, I woulda like to see dat Drogba bicycle live and direct even tho it didn't score! :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: dinho on May 11, 2010, 10:47:45 AM
Post by: Blue on May 11, 2010, 12:04:24 PM
thread title updated... :devil: :devil:
:beermug:
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2010, 07:50:26 AM
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2010, 07:58:30 AM
John Terry's dad: I am a coke dealer
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/05/14/john-terry-s-dad-i-am-a-coke-dealer-115875-22257274/
The father of disgraced England captain John Terry faces jail after yesterday admitting drug dealing.
The 56-year-old Ted Terry sold three wraps of cocaine in a wine bar for £120 bragging "This stuff's all right. I get off on it."
Jobless Terry, who thought he was selling to the chauffeur of a rich businessman, boasted: "This is between me and you. Don't tell him I'm John Terry's dad."
The deal was filmed by an undercover reporter. Yesterday Terry apologised to his son who will lead Chelsea against Portsmouth in tomorrow's Cup Final.
Barrister Neil Saunders told the court in Basildon, Essex: "He is very remorseful for the upset he has caused to, in particular, his son and that's why he was targeted."
Terry, who admitted supplying the drug, may miss seeing his son play in the World Cup. He will be sentenced on June 1, the day before England fly to South Africa. The maximum jail term is 14 years.
Terry was arrested after handing over the cocaine in the toilet of Unit 4 in Chafford Hundred, near Grays, Essex. The bar is near the £250,000 house his son bought him.
John Terry, worth an estimated £10million, knew nothing about the drug deal or his father's behaviour.
Last year his mother and motherin-law were cautioned after being caught with £800 of food and clothes.
In February he lost the England captaincy after allegedly cheating on his wife Toni with teammate Wayne Bridge's ex-partner.
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on May 15, 2010, 08:19:34 AM
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2010, 08:37:45 AM
this game not showing on flow or wah?
yeh i seeing it
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2010, 08:38:49 AM
thread title updated... :devil: :devil:
lol
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on May 15, 2010, 08:48:54 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2010, 08:50:12 AM
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2010, 09:15:44 AM
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2010, 09:19:22 AM
Post by: Babalawo on May 15, 2010, 09:20:24 AM
Boom Bang....best striker in England;D
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2010, 09:27:08 AM
what channel die hard? here in grenada it doesnt seem to be showing!
FSC
Post by: Bitter on May 15, 2010, 09:47:03 AM
On the other hand, you could see why they get relegated.
Post by: Bitter on May 15, 2010, 09:48:59 AM
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Post by: lefty on May 15, 2010, 09:59:17 AM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :cheers: :cheers:
twas ugly but d result is what matters
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 15, 2010, 10:05:53 AM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :cheers: :cheers:
twas ugly but d result is what matters
Yeah it was kinda ugly...Chelsea REL trow way and I find de ref was lettin' Portsmouth get away wit some challenges that was bordering on nastee.....not enough yellow cards....Drogba put de free-kick same place he does always put dem..to his right, 'keepers' left......David James nearly save it (and he had a GREAT game for P'mouth) but it was really "unsaveable". Big up to all my fellow Chelsea fans.....we comin back fuh more nex' year!!
Post by: big dawg on May 15, 2010, 10:12:57 AM
magnificant epl season...
now on the the WC... :beermug:
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2010, 10:17:31 AM
X2
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2010, 05:05:38 PM
Flikin Lampard miss oui.
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Lumpard warmin up for the World cup.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 16, 2010, 10:35:14 AM
Flikin Lampard miss oui.
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Lumpard warmin up for the World cup.
Yeah....he and c**t mout' Rio and wes brown..... :devil:
Post by: dinho on May 16, 2010, 12:55:30 PM
had to sit in Portsmouth section under mute vibes, but Wembley is an amazing stadium and seeing Chelsea lift the double was an amazing experience.
i really thought Portsmouth work some obeah on that goal but glad it come thru in the end.
:beermug:
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2010, 01:42:08 PM
was lucky enough to be in england this weekend and was able to chain up a ticket outside to see the final..yuh lucky yes...
had to sit in Portsmouth section under mute vibes, but Wembley is an amazing stadium and seeing Chelsea lift the double was an amazing experience.
i really thought Portsmouth work some obeah on that goal but glad it come thru in the end.
:beermug:
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2010, 03:47:51 PM
Flikin Lampard miss oui.
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Lumpard warmin up for the World cup.
Yeah....he and c**t mout' Rio and wes brown..... :devil:
Wes not going to SA and Lumpard mouth is half c^nt and half toothless granny! Why yuh cah enjoy yuh win without hatin? ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 16, 2010, 06:44:38 PM
Flikin Lampard miss oui.
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Lumpard warmin up for the World cup.
Yeah....he and c**t mout' Rio and wes brown..... :devil:
Wes not going to SA and Lumpard mouth is half c^nt and half toothless granny! Why yuh cah enjoy yuh win without hatin? ;D
I KNOW wes brown isn't going to SA, (but practically all of my Chelsea team is :devil:) that's why I put him in there and c**t-mout' rio limping in so "good luck england!" :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2010, 06:57:05 PM
Flikin Lampard miss oui.
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Lumpard warmin up for the World cup.
Yeah....he and c**t mout' Rio and wes brown..... :devil:
Wes not going to SA and Lumpard mouth is half c^nt and half toothless granny! Why yuh cah enjoy yuh win without hatin? ;D
I KNOW wes brown isn't going to SA, (but practically all of my Chelsea team is :devil:) that's why I put him in there and c**t-mout' rio limping in so "good luck england!" :devil:
Poor England is right with half of chelski goin! :devil: :devil:
Yuh watchin dream team? yuh know is chelski 2005-2006 team dey showin as harchester.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 16, 2010, 11:34:24 PM
Flikin Lampard miss oui.
Drogba should have take it... ::)
Lumpard warmin up for the World cup.
Yeah....he and c**t mout' Rio and wes brown..... :devil:
Wes not going to SA and Lumpard mouth is half c^nt and half toothless granny! Why yuh cah enjoy yuh win without hatin? ;D
I KNOW wes brown isn't going to SA, (but practically all of my Chelsea team is :devil:) that's why I put him in there and c**t-mout' rio limping in so "good luck england!" :devil:
Poor England is right with half of chelski goin! :devil: :devil:
Yuh watchin dream team? yuh know is chelski 2005-2006 team dey showin as harchester.
...well, they wouldn'ta even qualified if the other half woulda come from manUre!
I doh watch DT. ......no more. ;D
Post by: Blue on May 20, 2010, 01:56:33 PM
5. Chelsea vs Burnley - no particular incidents, just champagne football....the match where I realised we would win the title
4. Chelsea vs Wolves - Gael Kakuta's debut....he lit up Stamford Bridge for 25 minutes
3. Liverpool vs Chelsea - Steven Gerrard's assist...a massive relief.
2. Chelsea vs Wigan - the entire second half....awesome
1. Chelsea vs Man City - No Handshake
Any more? :beermug:
Post by: richpy on May 20, 2010, 10:53:21 PM
Chelsea need to monitor the situation and snap THAT up.
A midfield with Essien and Yaya is thunder
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 20, 2010, 11:20:31 PM
So it looking like the idiot coach at Barca want to pull an E'to on Toure Yaya
Chelsea need to monitor the situation and snap THAT up.
A midfield with Essien and Yaya and JOHN OBI MIKEL is thunder
Fix it fuh yuh! ;D
Pep like he is a Spanish to he heart boy......tryin' to move all dem African outta Spain! :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2010, 08:11:33 AM
Now dat de season done and I bored, my top 5 chelsea moments of de season:
5. Chelsea vs Burnley - no particular incidents, just champagne football....the match where I realised we would win the title
4. Chelsea vs Wolves - Gael Kakuta's debut....he lit up Stamford Bridge for 25 minutes
3. Liverpool vs Chelsea - Steven Gerrard's assist...a massive relief.
2. Chelsea vs Wigan - the entire second half....awesome
1. Chelsea vs Man City - No Handshake
Any more? :beermug:
Drogba offsides goal against United
Terry no call handball against Bolton
Anymore :beermug: :devil:
Post by: Blue on May 21, 2010, 12:23:29 PM
Now dat de season done and I bored, my top 5 chelsea moments of de season:
5. Chelsea vs Burnley - no particular incidents, just champagne football....the match where I realised we would win the title
4. Chelsea vs Wolves - Gael Kakuta's debut....he lit up Stamford Bridge for 25 minutes
3. Liverpool vs Chelsea - Steven Gerrard's assist...a massive relief.
2. Chelsea vs Wigan - the entire second half....awesome
1. Chelsea vs Man City - No Handshake
Any more? :beermug:
Drogba offsides goal against United
Terry no call handball against Bolton
Anymore :beermug: :devil:
It was Drogba handball versus Bolton...but glad you enjoyed dem moments :)
Post by: dinho on May 21, 2010, 12:53:45 PM
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Digital sign to separate rival fans.
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This Portsmouth fan get bloody up in a fight on the train after the game.
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Post by: sammy on May 21, 2010, 02:08:47 PM
So it looking like the idiot coach at Barca want to pull an E'to on Toure Yaya
Chelsea need to monitor the situation and snap THAT up.
A midfield with Essien and Yaya and JOHN OBI MIKEL is thunder
Fix it fuh yuh! ;D
Pep like he is a Spanish to he heart boy......tryin' to move all dem African outta Spain! :devil:
african or negro?
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 21, 2010, 02:19:55 PM
Now dat de season done and I bored, my top 5 chelsea moments of de season:
5. Chelsea vs Burnley - no particular incidents, just champagne football....the match where I realised we would win the title
4. Chelsea vs Wolves - Gael Kakuta's debut....he lit up Stamford Bridge for 25 minutes
3. Liverpool vs Chelsea - Steven Gerrard's assist...a massive relief.
2. Chelsea vs Wigan - the entire second half....awesome
1. Chelsea vs Man City - No Handshake
Any more? :beermug:
Drogba offsides goal against United
Terry no call handball against Bolton
Anymore :beermug: :devil:
I figured I might add a couple more "top 5" Chelsea moments that you manure fans would have enjoyed.....or at least felt relieved the moments went y'all way....for the moments they lasted....
@ Stamford Bridge
Drogba gettin' a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest from johhny evans when evans could have easily seen a red card
@ old (nothing new with bad calls against visiting teams) trafford
"the highly skilled one", gary neville gettin away with a clear penalty foul on Anelka
c**t-mout' rio with a reckless karate take down on Anelka right in front de ref that went unpunished and un-called.
the hand-ball goal by federico macheda that somehow gave y'all hope of a comeback
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 21, 2010, 02:21:31 PM
So it looking like the idiot coach at Barca want to pull an E'to on Toure Yaya
Chelsea need to monitor the situation and snap THAT up.
A midfield with Essien and Yaya and JOHN OBI MIKEL is thunder
Fix it fuh yuh! ;D
Pep like he is a Spanish to he heart boy......tryin' to move all dem African outta Spain! :devil:
african or negro?
Well boy.....at this point it may very well be six of one, half a dozen of the other.....
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Now dat de season done and I bored, my top 5 chelsea moments of de season:
5. Chelsea vs Burnley - no particular incidents, just champagne football....the match where I realised we would win the title
4. Chelsea vs Wolves - Gael Kakuta's debut....he lit up Stamford Bridge for 25 minutes
3. Liverpool vs Chelsea - Steven Gerrard's assist...a massive relief.
2. Chelsea vs Wigan - the entire second half....awesome
1. Chelsea vs Man City - No Handshake
Any more? :beermug:
Drogba offsides goal against United
Terry no call handball against Bolton
Anymore :beermug: :devil:
It was Drogba handball versus Bolton...but glad you enjoyed dem moments :)
Nope; just sayin.
"Coyle was still smouldering from that oversight when Terry appeared to knock down Chung-Yong Lee's cross just after the hour mark with his left arm, the ball falling kindly for Petr Cech and the linesman immediately waving away Bolton's appeals to indicate it had struck the defender on the shoulder. "We didn't need any luck tonight," said Coyle. "We only needed the officials to get the big decisions right. I can accept it if they've not seen it if they're out of position but, for the second one, he says it's hit Terry's shoulder. That's not happened, so that's a poor decision."
Taken from the Gaurdian newspapers.
Post by: sammy on May 21, 2010, 10:09:26 PM
So it looking like the idiot coach at Barca want to pull an E'to on Toure Yaya
Chelsea need to monitor the situation and snap THAT up.
A midfield with Essien and Yaya and JOHN OBI MIKEL is thunder
Fix it fuh yuh! ;D
Pep like he is a Spanish to he heart boy......tryin' to move all dem African outta Spain! :devil:
african or negro?
Well boy.....at this point it may very well be six of one, half a dozen of the other.....
very disturbing
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 22, 2010, 10:08:16 AM
So it looking like the idiot coach at Barca want to pull an E'to on Toure Yaya
Chelsea need to monitor the situation and snap THAT up.
A midfield with Essien and Yaya and JOHN OBI MIKEL is thunder
Fix it fuh yuh! ;D
Pep like he is a Spanish to he heart boy......tryin' to move all dem African outta Spain! :devil:
african or negro?
Well boy.....at this point it may very well be six of one, half a dozen of the other.....
very disturbing
Yes, Sammy, and such a shame, too, because, on the surface, they seem like a very nice people in a very, very beautiful country. From what I gather, though, it seems to be stemming more from an illegal imigration issue not unlike what's going on here in the the us, than it might be a race thing in particular. I could very well be wrong, but......
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 24, 2010, 09:52:02 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 25, 2010, 08:25:23 AM
Like Carlo still drunk or high from winning the double...looking to re-sign Ballack instead of resigning him. Shakin' my f**kin' head. I thought the goal now would be to be seriously vying for the CL.....keeping dead weight like this washed-up has been is not going to get it done. Clearly they not paying attention to what Barca is doing. >:(
Washed up?!! For a fella who could talk about Obi's qualities that others cannot see in a blues uniform, I find it ironic how much you dislike Ballack who suffers the same fate (being unable to play his natural position). Think objectively and not emotionally and you'll realize that the team often has played much better with Ballack on the field than off it. We don't know what goes on behind close doors so its very possible that Ballack offers intangables that managers appreciate and the public cannot grasp. I think if you gave fans who have never seen either internationally the option to pick one or the other more would pick Ballack than Obi (despite the age difference). Say what you want about Ballack but the coaches love him and there has to be a reason for this. Only one who took issue with him was Gene Hackman who if he had his way would have sold Drobga as part of his garage sale. Ancellotti apears to be trying to preserve his core 1st XI as he adds pieces and build on it. So maybe Ballack is one of those players that he believes is key to executing his vision on the pitch. If nothing else the manager has bought himself some credit with the results he achieved this season, so give it a chance before criticizing it.
Post by: kicker on May 25, 2010, 09:14:22 AM
Like Carlo still drunk or high from winning the double...looking to re-sign Ballack instead of resigning him. Shakin' my f**kin' head. I thought the goal now would be to be seriously vying for the CL.....keeping dead weight like this washed-up has been is not going to get it done. Clearly they not paying attention to what Barca is doing. >:(
He's still very technically gifted, and I imagine he brings alot of leadership qualities as well being a nat'l team skipper & icon. I agree he's not the Ballack of Leverkusen, WC 2002 or Euro 2004...but that was a long time ago so it's no surprise that what we're seeing today is a far cry from what made him the reputable player that he is. I too have seen him play some games and shake my head at how poor he was but I also don't imagine that his kind of experience and leadership is easily replaceable.
Post by: Blue on May 25, 2010, 09:41:14 AM
Post by: dinho on May 25, 2010, 09:55:54 AM
This is my fear with Ancelotti.. Like at Milan he like to persist with the old guard and doh bring thru de yutes.
This Chelsea team is at its physical limit and it could only go downhill from here. Lampard, Drogba, Carvalho, Terry, Anelka and Ballack hitting 30+. We need younger players to freshen up the team and we've seen enough of Ballack.
Yeah he might bring leadership qualities and a winning mentality, but that only carrying so far when yuh running at 2 mph and de best way yuh helping the side is by being wild. I eh know if allyuh men watching the Chelsea games this year, but Ballack running on fumes right now. Right now the only thing he giving on the field is a physical presence on the right and imo we could replace that by putting Essien on the right an playing Obi Mikel in the hole. He need to go to a league where the pace is slower and he getting more time on the ball.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 25, 2010, 10:35:12 AM
Yo, where you read that Ballack signing??
This is my fear with Ancelotti.. Like at Milan he like to persist with the old guard and doh bring thru de yutes.
This Chelsea team is at its physical limit and it could only go downhill from here. Lampard, Drogba, Carvalho, Terry, Anelka and Ballack hitting 30+. We need younger players to freshen up the team and we've seen enough of Ballack.
Yeah he might bring leadership qualities and a winning mentality, but that only carrying so far when yuh running at 2 mph and de best way yuh helping the side is by being wild. I eh know if allyuh men watching the Chelsea games this year, but Ballack running on fumes right now. Right now the only thing he giving on the field is a physical presence on the right and imo we could replace that by putting Essien on the right an playing Obi Mikel in the hole. He need to go to a league where the pace is slower and he getting more time on the ball.
You makin it seem like physical presence is ah triviality fella. Watch how Inter manhandle everybody in CL with de same physical presence. Stop looking at Ballack individually and look at the team overall with him on the pitch. I agree he isn't speedy but you mentioning Essien who I like but despite all his positive attributes is 2 years in a row he suffer injuries that kept him out extensively. Obi in the hole seems a waste of his potential if what Chow say is true. Somehow I feel Ballack is a tremendous team leader inside the Blues locker room. That would help explain why Hiddink made sure he was kept and (if what chow alude to is true) why Ancellotti would want to keep him even given his declining abilities. It would aslo explain why Scolari feeling as if he lost the team thought Ballack had to go as well. Right now I believe we need defenders. 2 RBs and a CB so that Ivanovic can play in his rightful CB position intead of full back. We need another top quality striker to make us more offensively threatening. I do share yuh concern about Ancellotti and his penchant for sticking with the old guard but he has shown that he willin to give the yutes a look too this year. Van Aanholt and Matic make a few appearances as well as Kakuta getting a decent run 1 game and these didn't come in desperation times. So maybe he will come around (at least I hope so).
Post by: kicker on May 25, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
Yo, where you read that Ballack signing??
This is my fear with Ancelotti.. Like at Milan he like to persist with the old guard and doh bring thru de yutes.
This Chelsea team is at its physical limit and it could only go downhill from here. Lampard, Drogba, Carvalho, Terry, Anelka and Ballack hitting 30+. We need younger players to freshen up the team and we've seen enough of Ballack.
Yeah he might bring leadership qualities and a winning mentality, but that only carrying so far when yuh running at 2 mph and de best way yuh helping the side is by being wild. I eh know if allyuh men watching the Chelsea games this year, but Ballack running on fumes right now. Right now the only thing he giving on the field is a physical presence on the right and imo we could replace that by putting Essien on the right an playing Obi Mikel in the hole. He need to go to a league where the pace is slower and he getting more time on the ball.
I've been a huge critic of Ballack's on the field performance since Euro 2008 when I thought he was really poor (he was coming off an injury), and that to my memory was the start of his precipitous downward slide in performances. That said, he was a staple player in Chelsea's line up this season, and the German nat'l team didn't take the news of his injury as trivial...so while we might watch on TV and waste down a player about how sheetee he is, the experts clearly beg to differ... so I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 25, 2010, 07:58:28 PM
Like Carlo still drunk or high from winning the double...looking to re-sign Ballack instead of resigning him. Shakin' my f**kin' head. I thought the goal now would be to be seriously vying for the CL.....keeping dead weight like this washed-up has been is not going to get it done. Clearly they not paying attention to what Barca is doing. >:(
Washed up?!! For a fella who could talk about Obi's qualities that others cannot see in a blues uniform, I find it ironic how much you dislike Ballack who suffers the same fate (being unable to play his natural position). Think objectively and not emotionally and you'll realize that the team often has played much better with Ballack on the field than off it. We don't know what goes on behind close doors so its very possible that Ballack offers intangables that managers appreciate and the public cannot grasp. I think if you gave fans who have never seen either internationally the option to pick one or the other more would pick Ballack than Obi (despite the age difference). Say what you want about Ballack but the coaches love him and there has to be a reason for this. Only one who took issue with him was Gene Hackman who if he had his way would have sold Drobga as part of his garage sale. Ancellotti apears to be trying to preserve his core 1st XI as he adds pieces and build on it. So maybe Ballack is one of those players that he believes is key to executing his vision on the pitch. If nothing else the manager has bought himself some credit with the results he achieved this season, so give it a chance before criticizing it.
Brother, I can truly say what I say about John Obi Mikel without hesitation or equivocation because I have seen him play for Nigeria. With my own two eyes. I know what he is capable of and it is far more than what we see him do for Chelsea. I don't mind if nobody else (on this forum) sees it. It's quite possible that nobody else saw him play his natural position either. Talk to any Nigerian that follows their national team and they will tell you that Chelsea are not using him correctly. Also, he's ten years younger than Ballack. I like that figure.
Ballack, for what fleeting moments he has done something good in a Chelsea uniform, (not unlike Deco) has never lived up to the bare minimum of expectations applicable to him and his stature since he has come to Chelsea. His best game this season was against one of them bottom-feeder teams that gave him all the room to walk around like Caesar on the pitch. In the fast pace of the EPL and demanding CL schedule, we need more than the occasional defense-splitting cross ball and fouls and constant contention with the referees. He has looked nothing close to what he was in his last season at Bayern. So if you and the majority of Chelsea fans would want to take Ballack over JOM at this point in their careers I could only be thankful to God allyuh ain't part of the whole Chelsea decision-making process oui! A rash act is always regretted.
Like Carlo still drunk or high from winning the double...looking to re-sign Ballack instead of resigning him. Shakin' my f**kin' head. I thought the goal now would be to be seriously vying for the CL.....keeping dead weight like this washed-up has been is not going to get it done. Clearly they not paying attention to what Barca is doing. >:(
He's still very technically gifted, and I imagine he brings alot of leadership qualities as well being a nat'l team skipper & icon. I agree he's not the Ballack of Leverkusen, WC 2002 or Euro 2004...but that was a long time ago so it's no surprise that what we're seeing today is a far cry from what made him the reputable player that he is. I too have seen him play some games and shake my head at how poor he was but I also don't imagine that his kind of experience and leadership is easily replaceable.
Kicker,....I don't disagree with what he brings........it's what he doesn't bring that hurts Chelsea more than what he brings helps them...Chelsea don't need leadership. They have enough of that in Terry, Lapard and Essien (by his play) Nor is Chelsea lacking in technical ability in any position. They need to start bringing in youth, speed and skill in defense to start preparing for Terry's and Carvalho's downhill slide. They need to show more commitment to play on the wings (this is where Joe Cole and Malouda come in) they need creativity and pace in the midfield, neither of which seems to be Ballack's strengths and they need a tad bit more precision up front.
I not even asking Ballack to try to be the Ballack of 2004 or even 2002. That is like praying for world peace. If God came before me now and granted me one Ballack wish, I would just ask him to be the Ballack of 2006, his last year with Bayern Munich. If I was getting just that little out of him I wouldn't be so disgruntled. He is done, as far as what Chelsea is trying to achieve, as far as I'm concerned.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 26, 2010, 09:06:22 AM
Brother, I can truly say what I say about John Obi Mikel without hesitation or equivocation because I have seen him play for Nigeria. With my own two eyes. I know what he is capable of and it is far more than what we see him do for Chelsea. I don't mind if nobody else (on this forum) sees it. It's quite possible that nobody else saw him play his natural position either. Talk to any Nigerian that follows their national team and they will tell you that Chelsea are not using him correctly. Also, he's ten years younger than Ballack. I like that figure.
Ballack, for what fleeting moments he has done something good in a Chelsea uniform, (not unlike Deco) has never lived up to the bare minimum of expectations applicable to him and his stature since he has come to Chelsea. His best game this season was against one of them bottom-feeder teams that gave him all the room to walk around like Caesar on the pitch. In the fast pace of the EPL and demanding CL schedule, we need more than the occasional defense-splitting cross ball and fouls and constant contention with the referees. He has looked nothing close to what he was in his last season at Bayern. So if you and the majority of Chelsea fans would want to take Ballack over JOM at this point in their careers I could only be thankful to God allyuh ain't part of the whole Chelsea decision-making process oui! A rash act is always regretted.
By your response it seems you haven't considered what i have posted so just to clarify let's get this clear. I am not saying that I would pick one over the other because I honestly couldn't compare them. I have seen for many years wha Ballack can do when he plays in his natural position but I have not seen Obi. You have seen what Obi can do in his natural position as well as Ballack so you may be in a better position to compare than me. At this stage I still don't think they are comparable even in that light. So follow what I did say which is "I think if you gave fans who have never seen either internationally the option to pick one or the other more would pick Ballack than Obi (despite the age difference)." What I also said is there must be a reason whey one manager after another likes and includes Ballack in their plans for the team. The one thing that can be compared is the fact that Ballack has captained and led Germany throughout what would be considered a successful international career as far as always being in contention for the top prizes. That cannot be said of Obi, so it is very much plausable that Ballack brings leadership qualities that are appreciated by the managers. There is no argument that we have never seen the best of Ballack in a blues uniform. However can you actually recall just 1 solitary game in which Ballack played as a CAM for Chelsea? Even when Scolari played Lampard on the left he would put Deco in the CAM slot and not Ballack. The special one didn't play Ballack there, Grant didn't, Hiddink didn't, and Ansellotti has not either. So how can you reasonable assess whether he's past anything or not. Is the German national team so desperate at that position that news of his injury and subsequent unavailability for WC duty was such a blow? Come on fella, yuh responding emotional as if you think someone is saying ship out Obi and keep Ballack. Notice How I said to Dinho if what you say is true then it would be a waste to have Obi in the hole? All I saying is give Ancellotti the benefit of the doubt since he's the one who is a world class manager and not us. Obviously there is something to Ballack that we cannot grasp from simply watching on the tele.
Post by: dinho on May 26, 2010, 09:50:22 AM
I eh think they could squeeze a next good year out of him, Ballack is done imo.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 26, 2010, 10:29:53 PM
By your response it seems you haven't considered what i have posted so just to clarify let's get this clear. I am not saying that I would pick one over the other because I honestly couldn't compare them. I have seen for many years wha Ballack can do when he plays in his natural position but I have not seen Obi. You have seen what Obi can do in his natural position as well as Ballack so you may be in a better position to compare than me. At this stage I still don't think they are comparable even in that light. So follow what I did say which is "I think if you gave fans who have never seen either internationally the option to pick one or the other more would pick Ballack than Obi (despite the age difference)." What I also said is there must be a reason whey one manager after another likes and includes Ballack in their plans for the team. The one thing that can be compared is the fact that Ballack has captained and led Germany throughout what would be considered a successful international career as far as always being in contention for the top prizes. That cannot be said of Obi, so it is very much plausable that Ballack brings leadership qualities that are appreciated by the managers. There is no argument that we have never seen the best of Ballack in a blues uniform. However can you actually recall just 1 solitary game in which Ballack played as a CAM for Chelsea? Even when Scolari played Lampard on the left he would put Deco in the CAM slot and not Ballack. The special one didn't play Ballack there, Grant didn't, Hiddink didn't, and Ansellotti has not either. So how can you reasonable assess whether he's past anything or not. Is the German national team so desperate at that position that news of his injury and subsequent unavailability for WC duty was such a blow? Come on fella, yuh responding emotional as if you think someone is saying ship out Obi and keep Ballack. Notice How I said to Dinho if what you say is true then it would be a waste to have Obi in the hole? All I saying is give Ancellotti the benefit of the doubt since he's the one who is a world class manager and not us. Obviously there is something to Ballack that we cannot grasp from simply watching on the tele.
Brudder.....I fully followed what you said. I am simply discussing the issue from all the facets I know apply. On the one hand you are saying that: So follow what I did say which is "I think if you gave fans who have never seen either internationally the option to pick one or the other more would pick Ballack than Obi (despite the age difference)."
yet, you are basing your side of the discussion on two things: (1)Ballack's past international career status and (2)coaches liking him (with the implication that they are possibly liking him for his "past international career status") yet you are saying that "if you gave fans who have never seen either internationally....and so on" that "they" would or should still pick Ballack over JOM. OK, so they both came to Chelsea in 2006, right? Let's pretend we don't know that their respective international careers even exist. One player is young and showing a positive curve of improvement (playing time, discipline, most other areas except shooting) while the other one is getting older and showing a steady decline in his play, but for the occasional defense-splitting cross ball, and maybe his playing time.......both players are being blocked from their natural positions by the goal-scoring knack of Frank Lampard (that and his leadership are the only things I can see FL having over either of these players) that doesn't seem to be pending a change anytime soon....and you are of the opinion that Chelsea fans, with this knowledge would/could/should prefer the latter of the two players?
To paraphrase Xerxes' messenger from "300": "...this is madness..." Don't think I am being emotional, Bredda. Yes I am a staunch supporter of JOM and I seem to see in him what nobody else sees (never mind that them same coaches you say are keeping Ballack have given him just as much playing time eh, and more over the past couple seasons) but I am not being "emotional" about this. I am simply rigid in my conviction......and convinced that you are mad. :beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 27, 2010, 11:24:57 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 28, 2010, 03:45:13 AM
"never mind that them same coaches you say are keeping Ballack have given him just as much playing time eh" And you sayin I mad?!!! Apart from times Ballack was injured, Obi eh get as much looks as Ballack fella. The only coach who probably favored Obi more was Scolari and we all kno why. This jus goin around in circles because you like Obi so it eh matter cause neither one of us have power of influence on who is re-signed and who plays.
I will simply agree to disagree wt yuh, Padnah. The bottom line is, Chelsea, as much as I does support them, is not perfect and don't always make the best footballing decisions. Coaches are people, too, and have their own agendas, biases and motivations. This is a team that insisted on playing an out-of-place Shevchenko and a team that had SWP and Joe Cole and Arjen Robben on the roster and still had no commitment to playing on the wings, so just because coaches are more "experts" than the average man like me and you, don't mean they always have all the right answers. For all the justification that you and some others can find for wanting a man like Ballack, the team playing him now is like trying to make squeeze out the last remnants of an orange to make juice after they done suck it. I say the only thing he good for now, is to make orange-peel tea. If they re-sign him when there's younger talent to be had and groomed into the team, it's a waste of time and money, if you will pardon my redundancy. We go see how the team look in August. :beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 28, 2010, 09:25:08 AM
Post by: Tongue on June 09, 2010, 07:36:39 AM
Post by: dinho on June 09, 2010, 07:42:48 AM
Joe Cole and Michael Ballack to leave Chelsea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8729993.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8729993.stm)
Chelsea have confirmed that Joe Cole and Michael Ballack are to leave the club on free transfers this summer.
Cole, 28, will depart at the start of July after the Premier League champions reportedly said they would not offer the England midfielder a fresh deal.
Germany midfielder Ballack, 33, who has been with Chelsea since 2006, will also not have his contract renewed.
Chelsea also said right-back Juliano Belletti will be leaving when his deal expires at the end of this month.
Cole joined Chelsea from West Ham for £6.6m in 2003 and is in South Africa preparing for the World Cup.
Simon Austin Blog
Team Capello boasts a formidable range of skills and personalities
His departure from Stamford Bridge will surprise many as he is expected to play an important role for England manager Fabio Capello in South Africa.
"We would like to thank him for his dedicated years of service and wish him well in his future career," read a Chelsea statement.
He struggled to hold down a starting berth in the Chelsea team during the 2009/10 season after returning from a serious knee injury last September.
Cole made 26 league appearances and scored two goals in the campaign - including a vital strike in the 2-1 victory over title rivals Manchester United in April.
Reports surfaced during the season that Cole's future was in doubt as contract negotiations over a new contract stalled, with suggestions that the player and his representatives angered Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich with their hard-line stance over wages.
He appeared in front of the media at an England press conference in South Africa on Wednesday and was reluctant to talk about the Chelsea situation.
"I am just focused on the World Cup," he said. "I'll leave that with my agent. I just want to get my head down and try and train and play well.
"My future will sort itself out. It won't distract me. It has been going on for a while and it is a story to be told at another time.
"I want to try and do my best for England over the next few weeks."
His availability will alert a number of Premier League clubs, with Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City all linked to the player.
Last week, Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp - who managed Cole at West Ham - told BBC Radio 5 live: "I've got a feeling he may have agreed a deal with somebody.
"I don't think it's going to be Tottenham that sign him but if he hasn't agreed a deal with somebody and he doesn't stay at Chelsea then we would be interested."
Cole played 282 times for Chelsea, scoring 39 goals, and won three Premier League titles and three FA Cups.
Ballack was set to captain Germany at the World Cup but was ruled out of the tournament with an ankle injury suffered in May's FA Cup final victory over Portsmouth.
His contract also expires at the end of June and in May he was confident a new deal with Chelsea could be struck, telling Germany's Bild newspaper: "Chelsea are absolutely my first option."
Ballack was signed by former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho on a free transfer from Bayern Munich in 2006.
He made 167 appearances for the club, scoring 26 goals - which helped Chelsea clinch their first title since 2006 this year - while also winning three FA Cups.
Chelsea say that he will remain at their Cobham training base for treatment on the ankle until it is healed.
Ballack's agent Michael Becker said the player would have been willing to take a pay cut and would have accepted a one-year deal with an option for a second year, based on appearances.
Becker said Ballack, who is on holiday in Miami, was "completely surprised" by the news.
"He has not spoken to Chelsea for three months," Becker told German broadcaster RTL.
Belletti, 33, joined Chelsea from Barcelona in 2007 for an undisclosed fee and leaves after completing his three-year deal.
Post by: Blue on June 09, 2010, 11:14:43 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 10, 2010, 03:34:20 AM
Sad to see Cole leave, but laterz Ballack...
Agreed!
Post by: Tongue on June 10, 2010, 08:35:42 AM
Sad to see Cole leave, but laterz Ballack...
Agreed!
sources saying Joe gone tuh de Gunners
Post by: Blue on June 10, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
Sad to see Cole leave, but laterz Ballack...
Agreed!
sources saying Joe gone tuh de Gunners
...posted in the Arsenal thread last week :devil:
Post by: Blue on July 02, 2010, 12:05:30 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2082180,00.html
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 02, 2010, 12:47:25 PM
Yossi Benayoun signed for Chelsea today. A poor man's Joe Cole ::)
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2082180,00.html
Nah fella, Benayoun is ah game changer. Joe Cole was that once upon ah time.
Post by: Blue on July 05, 2010, 12:18:28 PM
Yossi Benayoun signed for Chelsea today. A poor man's Joe Cole ::)
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2082180,00.html
Nah fella, Benayoun is ah game changer. Joe Cole was that once upon ah time.
Not too sure about that. In other bad news, I see Di Santo wearing de #9 jersey in pre-season training....I seriously hope dat snake is not our #9 this season....dey need to loan his ass out quick.
Post by: Babalawo on July 10, 2010, 12:17:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2inny7vRig
Post by: Blue on July 24, 2010, 05:42:46 AM
Hopefully we sign Ramires soon, would love to see him and Essien controlling things in d centre :beermug:
Post by: Touches on July 24, 2010, 05:44:52 AM
Post by: dinho on July 24, 2010, 02:18:41 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 25, 2010, 08:08:45 AM
Me ent know how this shit side get a whole thread on this message board with they 4 fans. :devil: :devil:
:shameonyou: FIVE!!
Post by: elan on July 26, 2010, 10:38:19 PM
Post by: Blue on July 30, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Gael Kakuta provides the cross for the winner after a mazy run from the halfline.
http://www.youtube.com/v/sUKQDKdzLSk
Post by: Tongue on July 31, 2010, 10:48:27 AM
Me ent know how this shit side get a whole thread on this message board with they 4 fans. :devil: :devil:
5.... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: Blue on August 01, 2010, 08:38:58 AM
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2010, 07:58:23 AM
Chelsea 'to sign Benfica midfielder Ramires for £18m'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8881118.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8881118.stm)
Portuguese club Benfica say they have agreed an £18m deal to sell Brazil international midfielder Ramires to Premier League champions Chelsea.
The deal is subject to the 23-year-old - who has won 16 caps for Brazil - passing a medical at Stamford Bridge.
Ramires joined the Portuguese giants last summer for £6.2m from Cruzeiro.
He will become the second player to join Carlo Ancelotti's squad this summer following the arrival of Yossi Benayoun from Liverpool.
Benfica say the deal amounts to 22m euros, which equates to about £18.2m at current exchange rates.
Ramires, whose full name is Ramires Santos do Nascimento, was praised by Brazil boss Dunga after strong displays in the opening stage of the World Cup in South Africa.
If the deal goes through as expected, Benfica will have to repay £6m to sports entrepreneur Kia Joorabchian who part-financed the player's transfer from Cruzeiro to the Portuguese club.
Press Association Sport says that this arrangement would not present any difficulty under the Premier League's third party ownership rules.
Benfica president Luis Felipe Vieira said: "Ramires staying at Benfica does not depend solely on us. We have a partner and we must respect the contracts."
On their website Benfica said the deal will include full rights for the Premier League side.
Ramires featured throughout Brazil's opening matches in South Africa, but a booking in the final group game against Portugal ruled him out of his country's quarter-final loss to the Netherlands.
Ramires
Ramires only joined Benfica from Cruzeiro in May 2009
He joined the Brazil set-up in 2009, in time to play in every game of the country's successful defence of their Confederations Cup title.
He helped Benfica clinch the Portuguese Liga for the first time in five years, also winning the League Cup in the process.
Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti has been seeking to bolster the Blues midfield following the departure of Joe Cole, Michael Ballack and the return to Brazil of Deco.
The club completed their pre-season preparations with a 2-1 defeat against Hamburg on Wednesday and now take on Manchester United in the Community Shield on Sunday.
Post by: Blue on August 10, 2010, 02:05:36 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2117792,00.html
:salute: :salute:
Post by: dinho on August 10, 2010, 02:26:03 PM
Carvalho signs for Real Madrid
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2117792,00.html
:salute: :salute:
Goodbye and best wishes to a legend...
The man who made John Terry look like the best defender in world football.
Post by: dumpalewie on August 10, 2010, 05:22:08 PM
Euro U-19 Championship Final yesterday: France 2 Spain 1Sunnu, the man who scored the first goal is an Arsenal player.
Gael Kakuta provides the cross for the winner after a mazy run from the halfline.
http://www.youtube.com/v/sUKQDKdzLSk
Post by: chelsealife on August 10, 2010, 08:32:29 PM
Thats true. John Terry has lost it, step forward Jeffery Bruma ;D after this season JT is done. Hope Bosingwa comes back soon so Ivanovic can move to centre back. Dat way we wont have to throw Bruma in too fast.Carvalho signs for Real Madrid
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2117792,00.html
:salute: :salute:
Goodbye and best wishes to a legend...
The man who made John Terry look like the best defender in world football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 11, 2010, 03:34:46 AM
Carvalho signs for Real Madrid
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2117792,00.html
:salute: :salute:
Goodbye and best wishes to a legend...
The man who made John Terry look like the best defender in world football.
Ah glad you know.......Chelsea practically trowin' away this season by letting Carvalho go but if de man want to leave ah guess they had no choice. Alex need to hurry up and come back from injury and work he unorthodox magic because John Terry is fast becoming a liability in that defense.
Post by: kicker on August 11, 2010, 08:26:06 AM
Ah glad you know.......Chelsea practically trowin' away this season by letting Carvalho go but if de man want to leave ah guess they had no choice. Alex need to hurry up and come back from injury and work he unorthodox magic because John Terry is fast becoming a liability in that defense.
Carvalho is 32 years old...He gave Chelsea alot (6 seasons!!) and seems to want to spend his last season or two before twilight playing for his compatriot...
That's a normal scene- Chelsea eh throwing anything away...just going along with what is a natural progression.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 11, 2010, 07:53:10 PM
Ah glad you know.......Chelsea practically trowin' away this season by letting Carvalho go but if de man want to leave ah guess they had no choice. Alex need to hurry up and come back from injury and work he unorthodox magic because John Terry is fast becoming a liability in that defense.
Carvalho is 32 years old...He gave Chelsea alot (6 seasons!!) and seems to want to spend his last season or two before twilight playing for his compatriot...
That's a normal scene- Chelsea eh throwing anything away...just going along with what is a natural progression.
I know and I agree. I was just being disgruntled but ah get over it now. Carvalho has always been the man for me in that defense and even at 32 (and knowing how rapid John Terry's "skills" are diminishing) it sad to see him go because he is still a great defender. His value to this team has been badly understated as Terry seems to have gotten all the shine when it comes to that central D. but he really could NOT have gotten it done without R.C. Alex can be a reliable and competent replacement and so can Ivanovic but Terry pullin' so much stones now he could make them look bad. In time all will be told.
Post by: Blue on August 12, 2010, 01:45:12 PM
Additional word is that Neymar has asked Santos to let him leave :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: chelsealife on August 12, 2010, 07:06:38 PM
Word is that Ramires has now been granted a work permit and will now officially become a Chelsea player :beermug:I cant seem to find it anywhere that ramires has been granted a Work Permit. And Neymar handing in a request doesnt mean he's on his way to chelsea. I hope so though
Additional word is that Neymar has asked Santos to let him leave :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: Blue on August 13, 2010, 12:06:48 AM
Word is that Ramires has now been granted a work permit and will now officially become a Chelsea player :beermug:I cant seem to find it anywhere that ramires has been granted a Work Permit. And Neymar handing in a request doesnt mean he's on his way to chelsea. I hope so though
Additional word is that Neymar has asked Santos to let him leave :beermug: :beermug:
WP news is from a respected journalist's twitter feed
So said, so done: Ramires signs for Chelsea
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2121853,00.html
Post by: chelsealife on August 13, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
ok cool i saw it. anything about neymar then??Word is that Ramires has now been granted a work permit and will now officially become a Chelsea player :beermug:I cant seem to find it anywhere that ramires has been granted a Work Permit. And Neymar handing in a request doesnt mean he's on his way to chelsea. I hope so though
Additional word is that Neymar has asked Santos to let him leave :beermug: :beermug:
WP news is from a respected journalist's twitter feed
So said, so done: Ramires signs for Chelsea
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2121853,00.html
Post by: big dawg on August 14, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
now dat we shake off that pre-season and community sheild blight..
The season has begun, de same way the last one ended..
6-0..
Let the games begin..
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 14, 2010, 12:28:35 PM
:applause:
now dat we shake off that pre-season and community sheild blight..
The season has begun, de same way the last one ended..
6-0..
Let the games begin..
....pickin up where we left off. :beermug:
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 04:21:11 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 15, 2010, 02:43:41 AM
WBA looked like they were up for the game despite going down early, and at 3-0 the scoreline actually flattered Chelsea, but they gradually overpowered them....ultimately and overall it was total domination- good opening statement by the blues. Essien looks deadly.
Essien is always deadly. He just has to stay healthy. He seems brittle (no fault of his own, necessarily) especially for a man does put dong some of the tackles he is known to have put dong.
Post by: Blue on August 17, 2010, 11:33:30 AM
Post by: elan on August 21, 2010, 12:09:51 PM
Post by: MEP on August 21, 2010, 12:13:04 PM
There is no striker in the EPL better than Drogba, none.and he eh even bother to score today
Post by: lefty on August 21, 2010, 12:13:59 PM
Post by: Marcos on August 21, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
Post by: triniairman on August 21, 2010, 12:23:49 PM
No striker in the WORLD better than drogbaI am a Man.U man and I fully agree with your post
Post by: D.H.W on August 21, 2010, 12:24:21 PM
No striker in the WORLD better than drogbastueps
Post by: Peong on August 21, 2010, 12:27:10 PM
Post by: chelsealife on August 21, 2010, 01:13:56 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 21, 2010, 01:57:36 PM
Today was one of Drogba's "off" days. He played well but not at his best, thats how easy it was. Best striker in the WORLD forget about the prem ;D. Hope he's on again next week against Stoke
Ah like how yuh put the "off" in quotations....believe it or not I was looking at the game and givin' him MOM still. Is almost like yuh could see he was decidedly going to take a back seat in the scoring today, but was doing everything else he could do to ensure his team's victory. I have to admit, the football gods really gave us a nice season-opening schedule that should help establish some momentum/rhythm and regain our confidence after that shaky preseason and CS defeat to manure. If we lookin' at Stoke next week we should look to come out hard and play some more, as lefty say, 20/20 cricket on dat side and secure a easy 9 points to date. It is not going to be easy to repeat the feat and go 6-0 against our main rivals like we did last season, but if we could keep this side healthy, nobody eh beatin' we.
I was almost feelin' sorry for Wigan today to see Essien comin' off only for them to have to deal with Benayoun boy. That little Israeli only know one thing and that is to attack. (I shouldn't be surprised!) As much as I love Jose, I always had issue with Chelsea's too-slow and sometimes negative build up on counter. Not so undo Carlo and you could really see that he is a more nose-to-goal player than Joe Cole, even without the ball. This side is more direct, coming fast and hard and they go be even deadlier when Ramires start gettin' een on de action. I feel is my boy, Mikel that will get sacrificed when that happens but it should really be Lampard. :devil:
Post by: chelsealife on August 21, 2010, 02:37:34 PM
Today was one of Drogba's "off" days. He played well but not at his best, thats how easy it was. Best striker in the WORLD forget about the prem ;D. Hope he's on again next week against Stoke
Ah like how yuh put the "off" in quotations....believe it or not I was looking at the game and givin' him MOM still. Is almost like yuh could see he was decidedly going to take a back seat in the scoring today, but was doing everything else he could do to ensure his team's victory. I have to admit, the football gods really gave us a nice season-opening schedule that should help establish some momentum/rhythm and regain our confidence after that shaky preseason and CS defeat to manure. If we lookin' at Stoke next week we should look to come out hard and play some more, as lefty say, 20/20 cricket on dat side and secure a easy 9 points to date. It is not going to be easy to repeat the feat and go 6-0 against our main rivals like we did last season, but if we could keep this side healthy, nobody eh beatin' we.
I was almost feelin' sorry for Wigan today to see Essien comin' off only for them to have to deal with Benayoun boy. That little Israeli only know one thing and that is to attack. (I shouldn't be surprised!) As much as I love Jose, I always had issue with Chelsea's too-slow and sometimes negative build up on counter. Not so undo Carlo and you could really see that he is a more nose-to-goal player than Joe Cole, even without the ball. This side is more direct, coming fast and hard and they go be even deadlier when Ramires start gettin' een on de action. I feel is my boy, Mikel that will get sacrificed when that happens but it should really be Lampard. :devil:
QuoteRamires will get back his Blue Kenyan nickname now but i dnt think he will start to come in as a starter until probably about January. Mikel looking like the player we signed and he know he have a fight on to stay in the team. Will be surprising to see where Ramires plays but when he does some teams wont be happy (except us). Anelka really surprising me with his play. Very impressive ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 21, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
Today was one of Drogba's "off" days. He played well but not at his best, thats how easy it was. Best striker in the WORLD forget about the prem ;D. Hope he's on again next week against Stoke
Ah like how yuh put the "off" in quotations....believe it or not I was looking at the game and givin' him MOM still. Is almost like yuh could see he was decidedly going to take a back seat in the scoring today, but was doing everything else he could do to ensure his team's victory. I have to admit, the football gods really gave us a nice season-opening schedule that should help establish some momentum/rhythm and regain our confidence after that shaky preseason and CS defeat to manure. If we lookin' at Stoke next week we should look to come out hard and play some more, as lefty say, 20/20 cricket on dat side and secure a easy 9 points to date. It is not going to be easy to repeat the feat and go 6-0 against our main rivals like we did last season, but if we could keep this side healthy, nobody eh beatin' we.
I was almost feelin' sorry for Wigan today to see Essien comin' off only for them to have to deal with Benayoun boy. That little Israeli only know one thing and that is to attack. (I shouldn't be surprised!) As much as I love Jose, I always had issue with Chelsea's too-slow and sometimes negative build up on counter. Not so undo Carlo and you could really see that he is a more nose-to-goal player than Joe Cole, even without the ball. This side is more direct, coming fast and hard and they go be even deadlier when Ramires start gettin' een on de action. I feel is my boy, Mikel that will get sacrificed when that happens but it should really be Lampard. :devil:
QuoteRamires will get back his Blue Kenyan nickname now but i dnt think he will start to come in as a starter until probably about January. Mikel looking like the player we signed and he know he have a fight on to stay in the team. Will be surprising to see where Ramires plays but when he does some teams wont be happy (except us). Anelka really surprising me with his play. Very impressive ;D ;D ;D
Yeah, it seems as though Mikel seems to be slowly working his way into a more attacking role which, I have argued to no end, is his more natural role. Last week I see de man all up in West Brom 18 and ting fuh a few seconds and was shocked! The pass he made today to Anelka for his first is one I've seen him make many a time before and his ball control and ability to create space for himself when under pressure is sublime and a pleasure to watch. Men does be bashin' de boy but they eh know what they talkin' 'bout, but I do surrender that I suspect that he is the one that is going to suffer playing time when Ramires comes in.
as for Anelka, doh let dah man surprise yuh at all!! That man is one of the most naturally gifted footballers I have ever seen. The man is so fluid with the ball and makes the game look so damned easy...I does just be shakin' my head when I watch him play. Once his head and heart not in a game, though, he is also one of the most frustrating players to watch, but, he is still always a threat to score and, IMHO, he has been one of Chelsea's best signings. :beermug:
Post by: chelsealife on August 21, 2010, 04:08:04 PM
Post by: dinho on August 21, 2010, 04:12:20 PM
Post by: kicker on August 21, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
Lucio is the only defender I've seen keep him under pure manners
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 21, 2010, 08:07:04 PM
Drogba seems unplayable when he feels like it...
Lucio is the only defender I've seen keep him under pure manners
.......it was more Lucio and company than just Lucio alone. For a while Jamie Carragher used to give him a run for his money, too.
Post by: Blue on August 22, 2010, 02:55:54 AM
Post by: chelsealife on August 22, 2010, 08:07:26 AM
Nice scoreline, but lets not forget that Wigan are $h!t.Actually not, martinez just does not know his best team. Just look at Boselli who is Scotty replacement he is sh!t but he will get figured out and Scotty will get his place back. When Caldwell comes back then wigan will be more solid. But Chelsea is different class and we'll see that again next week I will be sorry for the team we play when we start a game strong, we are still rusty IMO
Post by: Blue on August 22, 2010, 08:14:42 AM
Nice scoreline, but lets not forget that Wigan are $h!t.Actually not, martinez just does not know his best team. Just look at Boselli who is Scotty replacement he is sh!t but he will get figured out and Scotty will get his place back. When Caldwell comes back then wigan will be more solid. But Chelsea is different class and we'll see that again next week I will be sorry for the team we play when we start a game strong, we are still rusty IMO
well we gave dem 8-0 in may, and blackpool gave dem 4 last week.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 22, 2010, 11:49:18 AM
Nice scoreline, but lets not forget that Wigan are $h!t.Actually not, martinez just does not know his best team. Just look at Boselli who is Scotty replacement he is sh!t but he will get figured out and Scotty will get his place back. When Caldwell comes back then wigan will be more solid. But Chelsea is different class and we'll see that again next week I will be sorry for the team we play when we start a game strong, we are still rusty IMO
well we gave dem 8-0 in may, and blackpool gave dem 4 last week.
.....and they have stymied us in the past, too.....aside from that 8-0 drubbing in May, don't forget that they beat us 3-1 and in the prior seasons, Wigan have fought us very hard and even helped put an end to our league title hopes. I recall a certain draw at Stamford Bridge at the end of the season that pretty much sealed our second-place fate (and avram grant's, as well). I eh sayin they eh a shit side this year, but considering how well they have played us (or been allowed to play us) in the past, I, for one, wasn't too quick to expect an easy victory yesterday against this team. Especially on the road. But anyhow.....we winnin' and manu drawin'. Arsenal scoring, but we scoring more. liverpool is.....well, liverpool is liverpool. We on top, we have most goals so far and Ramires is on the way and mancity still tryin to figure they self out.
All ah we Chelsea we happy fuh now. :beermug:
Post by: chelsealife on August 22, 2010, 05:30:15 PM
Post by: xixgon on August 22, 2010, 07:57:58 PM
Nice scoreline, but lets not forget that Wigan are $h!t.Actually not, martinez just does not know his best team. Just look at Boselli who is Scotty replacement he is sh!t but he will get figured out and Scotty will get his place back. When Caldwell comes back then wigan will be more solid. But Chelsea is different class and we'll see that again next week I will be sorry for the team we play when we start a game strong, we are still rusty IMO
Boselli is better than Scotland - Wigan is jus shit - or at least shit under Martinez. Goin to Wigan is a bad choice unless you don't have any even marginally better options yes. Relegation-battles, poor support and a club with little history to speak of is not somewhere I would have expected one of the hottest strikers in South America to have ended up at.
Post by: Marcos on August 23, 2010, 10:41:45 AM
And Anelka is one of the most technically superb ballers. He looks like a computer program created to demonstrate how to trap, pass, shoot. Exquisite. If only his head was good...
Post by: Blue on August 23, 2010, 12:02:12 PM
Horse, Wigan is not shit. They actually play a nice brand, but as is the case in all big time football, quality of defence and finishing in front of goal is the difference. You see how Terry and Alex keeping sides under manners and then diving to block shot like their lives depended on it. Big side.
And Anelka is one of the most technically superb ballers. He looks like a computer program created to demonstrate how to trap, pass, shoot. Exquisite. If only his head was good...
I dunno....I went to the 8-0 in May and they were $h!t...I watched the full 90 minutes of the 6-0 on TV and they were $h!t...I watched extended highlights of de Blackpool 4-0 and they were $h!t. To me that could only mean one thing.
I am happy to rate us up when we play well, but we never really got out of second gear and still hit dem 6 away from home effortlessly. We still waiting on a real test, particularly defensively, since Wigan put us under no strain whatsoever.
Post by: kicker on August 23, 2010, 12:10:19 PM
There is however alot to be said about the clinical manner in which Chelsea ultimately won the games though.
It doh matter how sh*tty the opposition is, 6-0 eh no easy scoreline to replicate back to back at this level of football...
btw is this the most amount of 6-0 scorelines ever recorded in the 1st weeks of the EPL? Chelsea 2wice, Arsenal and Newcastle one each...
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 23, 2010, 01:05:43 PM
I agree with Ryan. Chelsea eh get no opposition tuh talk 'bout yet...and in the 1st half of both matches, it didn't look like minnow vs giant.
There is however alot to be said about the clinical manner in which Chelsea ultimately won the games though.
It doh matter how sh*tty the opposition is, 6-0 eh no easy scoreline to replicate back to back at this level of football...
btw is this the most amount of 6-0 scorelines ever recorded in the 1st weeks of the EPL? Chelsea 2wice, Arsenal and Newcastle one each...
The point Ryan is missing, though, is that, as shitty as Wigan are or have been, they have always given Chelsea some kinda problem or another. Remember that Wigan's first game in the EPL took some last-minute heroics from Hernan Crespo to save face for Chelsea, and for some reason or another they have since been one of those teams that just seems to bogey us, no matter how shitty they looked against other opposition. Aston Villa is another one. Nobody is denying that we have had an easy season-opening schedule. In fact, I pointed that out from early on. That Chelsea has been able to roll over them so easily these last two games we have played them seems (to me) that whatever semi obeah this side had wukkin' on we, like we get over it. We are beginning to show a killer instinct that seemed to have been missing against some of the lower-tiered teams and if that persists, it can only bode well for the remainder of the season. I have discussed before on the forum, my concern for Chelsea's inability to consistently score more goals in games. To me, at least ONE of manu's recent title runs came as a result of chelsea just not scoring enough for themselves when they needed to, especially since their defense has always been solid. I sure didn't expect a goal-fest on Saturday but I saw this team be more comfortable against Wigan than I have ever seen them and that is a great sign. :beermug:
Post by: Blue on August 23, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
I agree with Ryan. Chelsea eh get no opposition tuh talk 'bout yet...and in the 1st half of both matches, it didn't look like minnow vs giant.
There is however alot to be said about the clinical manner in which Chelsea ultimately won the games though.
It doh matter how sh*tty the opposition is, 6-0 eh no easy scoreline to replicate back to back at this level of football...
btw is this the most amount of 6-0 scorelines ever recorded in the 1st weeks of the EPL? Chelsea 2wice, Arsenal and Newcastle one each...
The point Ryan is missing, though, is that, as shitty as Wigan are or have been, they have always given Chelsea some kinda problem or another. Remember that Wigan's first game in the EPL took some last-minute heroics from Hernan Crespo to save face for Chelsea, and for some reason or another they have since been one of those teams that just seems to bogey us, no matter how shitty they looked against other opposition. Aston Villa is another one. Nobody is denying that we have had an easy season-opening schedule. In fact, I pointed that out from early on. That Chelsea has been able to roll over them so easily these last two games we have played them seems (to me) that whatever semi obeah this side had wukkin' on we, like we get over it. We are beginning to show a killer instinct that seemed to have been missing against some of the lower-tiered teams and if that persists, it can only bode well for the remainder of the season. I have discussed before on the forum, my concern for Chelsea's inability to consistently score more goals in games. To me, at least ONE of manu's recent title runs came as a result of chelsea just not scoring enough for themselves when they needed to, especially since their defense has always been solid. I sure didn't expect a goal-fest on Saturday but I saw this team be more comfortable against Wigan than I have ever seen them and that is a great sign. :beermug:
Guess how many Wigan players in d starting lineup remain from that game wid Crespo. Hint: rhymes wid hero.
We scored more goals than any team in Europe and the most in the history of the Premier League last season, so not sure what you mean by we don't score enough goals.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 23, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
I agree with Ryan. Chelsea eh get no opposition tuh talk 'bout yet...and in the 1st half of both matches, it didn't look like minnow vs giant.
There is however alot to be said about the clinical manner in which Chelsea ultimately won the games though.
It doh matter how sh*tty the opposition is, 6-0 eh no easy scoreline to replicate back to back at this level of football...
btw is this the most amount of 6-0 scorelines ever recorded in the 1st weeks of the EPL? Chelsea 2wice, Arsenal and Newcastle one each...
The point Ryan is missing, though, is that, as shitty as Wigan are or have been, they have always given Chelsea some kinda problem or another. Remember that Wigan's first game in the EPL took some last-minute heroics from Hernan Crespo to save face for Chelsea, and for some reason or another they have since been one of those teams that just seems to bogey us, no matter how shitty they looked against other opposition. Aston Villa is another one. Nobody is denying that we have had an easy season-opening schedule. In fact, I pointed that out from early on. That Chelsea has been able to roll over them so easily these last two games we have played them seems (to me) that whatever semi obeah this side had wukkin' on we, like we get over it. We are beginning to show a killer instinct that seemed to have been missing against some of the lower-tiered teams and if that persists, it can only bode well for the remainder of the season. I have discussed before on the forum, my concern for Chelsea's inability to consistently score more goals in games. To me, at least ONE of manu's recent title runs came as a result of chelsea just not scoring enough for themselves when they needed to, especially since their defense has always been solid. I sure didn't expect a goal-fest on Saturday but I saw this team be more comfortable against Wigan than I have ever seen them and that is a great sign. :beermug:
Guess how many Wigan players in d starting lineup remain from that game wid Crespo. Hint: rhymes wid hero.
We scored more goals than any team in Europe and the most in the history of the Premier League last season, so not sure what you mean by we don't score enough goals.
Ryan.......seems like your fandom has prevented you from paying attention over the past few years. Just because we scored a plethora of goals last season does not mean we forget our tendencies prior to that. If you go back over the past few seasons, when we relinquished the championship to that team up in manchester, we lost or drew low-scoring games against teams that we shouldn't have lost to or drawn with (Wigan is one of them) and I was making the point back then that Chelsea, as a team, were not consistently scoring enough goals to facilitate their attempt at winning more titles. It's goals that win matches, nothing else. When your team scores as consistently as they need to, it takes loads of pressure off the entire team. I know we have tougher opposition to face and I know that we have some low-scoring games to play in the future. However, if we score and score and score with the consistency as we have this past season and so far this year, against teams like Wigan, Aston Villa and Everton, then we won't have the same pressures on us come down the end of the season.
Also, Ryan.....It matters not what the roster of a team is if that team seems to give you a hard time. Some small teams, for whatever reason, seem to have their turn at being a bigger team's bogey, and my purpose of using that Hernan Crespo winner was to point out that from the onset, Wigan showed that they were not going to be as easy prey for Chelsea as was expected.....and their subsequent encounters proved that......to me, at least. Until recently Chelsea had a very long bully streak against Tottenham that Spurs were very hard pressed to overcome and I guarantee you that neither roster had the same players at the end of the streak as they did at the beginning of it. Did that change the fact that We had Tottenham's number? Of course not.
Post by: elan on August 23, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
Chelsea eh even break into 2nd gear yet.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 24, 2010, 03:55:08 AM
Haul alyuh arse, we beating down team. It eh matter who it is, we beating them. When in preseason Man United beat Ireland Pub XI everyone talk all kinda talk and when we lost all we game you coulda use that as a guage. Now alyuh turning around and saying you cyah use these 2 game. Go so with alyuh convenient commentary. Is cut arse they getting.
Chelsea eh even break into 2nd gear yet.
:rotfl:
Post by: dinho on August 24, 2010, 08:04:38 AM
Post by: spideybuff on August 24, 2010, 08:35:59 AM
Man United CANNOT beat no side 6-0.
:o :o :o
Poor West Ham next week...Dinho gone and use his goat mouth :devil:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 24, 2010, 09:08:49 AM
Man United CANNOT beat no side 6-0.
:o :o :o
Poor West Ham next week...Dinho gone and use his goat mouth :devil:
Dey bettah hope Cole eh get thru da shit defense deh ha dey lol
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 09:33:21 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 09:49:54 AM
Post by: elan on August 28, 2010, 10:07:09 AM
Post by: D.H.W on August 28, 2010, 10:34:06 AM
Man United CANNOT beat no side 6-0.
:devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 28, 2010, 11:05:14 AM
3 for 3. Ballin.
COSIGGGGGGGNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!! ;D :devil:
Post by: Blue on August 28, 2010, 11:49:48 AM
If Carlos willin tuh sub fat frank when he playin shite, I could see Ramires takin his run. while mikel keeping his spot.
Lampard was injured
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
If Carlos willin tuh sub fat frank when he playin shite, I could see Ramires takin his run. while mikel keeping his spot.
Lampard was injured
if you say so.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 28, 2010, 11:54:13 AM
If Carlos willin tuh sub fat frank when he playin shite, I could see Ramires takin his run. while mikel keeping his spot.
Ah love Lampard and I truly appreciate what his value is to this tea.....but ah COSIIIIIIIGGGGGGGNNNN on dis!! It good to see a manure fan could have some sense in dey head sometimes. try and rub orff on DieHard nuh? :devil:
Post by: Blue on August 28, 2010, 11:57:41 AM
Lampard looked woeful today, so no surpise that he is going to have a hernia operation now. Ramires came on late but didnt do nothing Brazilian. Best players today were Mikel and Malouda. Special shoutout to Mikel for hittin Kenwyne Jones a stink cap in d first half - stamping d ball into de ground and over KJ's head...KJ had no clue were d ball was :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on August 28, 2010, 11:58:30 AM
If Carlos willin tuh sub fat frank when he playin shite, I could see Ramires takin his run. while mikel keeping his spot.
Lampard was injured
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2138085,00.html
if you say so.
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 12:01:17 PM
If Carlos willin tuh sub fat frank when he playin shite, I could see Ramires takin his run. while mikel keeping his spot.
Lampard was injured
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2138085,00.html
if you say so.
Thank you Ryan. Lampard will be kissin bench when he returns.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 28, 2010, 12:33:19 PM
Best players today were Mikel and Malouda. Special shoutout to Mikel for hittin Kenwyne Jones a stink cap in d first half - stamping d ball into de ground and over KJ's head...KJ had no clue were d ball was :rotfl:
....and trust me, Chelsea fans have not seen the best that Mikel has to offer yet. Just like Malouda is coming into his own (much to dinho's delight! :devil:) and it has taken a couple of seasons, so, too, will Mikel. Granted, he has been at Chelsea a whole lot longer than Malouda, but he is younger (in age and seasoning) and has been asked to play a more restricted role on the team. The boy have skill to burn!!
Post by: chelsealife on August 28, 2010, 07:14:46 PM
Post by: JDB on August 28, 2010, 11:01:27 PM
Look like Mikel keeping his place after all with Lamps being injured. Hope Ramires hits the ground running :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Lampard might be back before the next round of games. Apparently this is the same surgery that Drogba did and he was back in training in one week.
But if Lampard is out this could be a blessing for them. A Essien, Ramires pairing would be the two best all-rounders in the league bar none. With Mikel playing behind that is real pressure for teams and they wouldn't have Lampard shooting 6 times a game and missing a setta penalty.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 29, 2010, 07:12:10 PM
Look like Mikel keeping his place after all with Lamps being injured. Hope Ramires hits the ground running :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Lampard might be back before the next round of games. Apparently this is the same surgery that Drogba did and he was back in training in one week.
But if Lampard is out this could be a blessing for them. A Essien, Ramires pairing would be the two best all-rounders in the league bar none. With Mikel playing behind that is real pressure for teams and they wouldn't have Lampard shooting 6 times a game and missing a setta penalty.
:thumbsup: :beermug:
Post by: dinho on August 29, 2010, 08:06:56 PM
Best players today were Mikel and Malouda. Special shoutout to Mikel for hittin Kenwyne Jones a stink cap in d first half - stamping d ball into de ground and over KJ's head...KJ had no clue were d ball was :rotfl:
....and trust me, Chelsea fans have not seen the best that Mikel has to offer yet. Just like Malouda is coming into his own (much to dinho's delight! :devil:) and it has taken a couple of seasons, so, too, will Mikel. Granted, he has been at Chelsea a whole lot longer than Malouda, but he is younger (in age and seasoning) and has been asked to play a more restricted role on the team. The boy have skill to burn!!
I have to give props where props is due, this Malouda add a whole different dimension to his game and the man untouchable right now... The man running direct, the man playing strong and even pongsing off men.. Plus the man finishing with right or left..
He and Anelka really make me into a liar, but I not complaining.
Post by: Tongue on August 30, 2010, 07:49:04 AM
Post by: Peong on August 30, 2010, 08:06:29 AM
Post by: dinho on August 30, 2010, 08:08:24 AM
stink stank stunk. surprise nobody eh comment on dah tall cap we boy get. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMM12UPjOfA/url]
waaaaay sah!! :timeout:
Post by: chelsealife on August 30, 2010, 09:00:23 AM
Actually malouda always had a lot in his locker. He just recovered the keys ;) .... At Lyon he was brilliantBest players today were Mikel and Malouda. Special shoutout to Mikel for hittin Kenwyne Jones a stink cap in d first half - stamping d ball into de ground and over KJ's head...KJ had no clue were d ball was :rotfl:
....and trust me, Chelsea fans have not seen the best that Mikel has to offer yet. Just like Malouda is coming into his own (much to dinho's delight! :devil:) and it has taken a couple of seasons, so, too, will Mikel. Granted, he has been at Chelsea a whole lot longer than Malouda, but he is younger (in age and seasoning) and has been asked to play a more restricted role on the team. The boy have skill to burn!!
I have to give props where props is due, this Malouda add a whole different dimension to his game and the man untouchable right now... The man running direct, the man playing strong and even pongsing off men.. Plus the man finishing with right or left..
He and Anelka really make me into a liar, but I not complaining.
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2010, 10:55:56 AM
I have to give props where props is due, this Malouda add a whole different dimension to his game and the man untouchable right now... The man running direct, the man playing strong and even pongsing off men.. Plus the man finishing with right or left..
He and Anelka really make me into a liar, but I not complaining.
Malouda was Chelsea's best player last season after Drogba.
Post by: dinho on August 30, 2010, 11:19:02 AM
I have to give props where props is due, this Malouda add a whole different dimension to his game and the man untouchable right now... The man running direct, the man playing strong and even pongsing off men.. Plus the man finishing with right or left..
He and Anelka really make me into a liar, but I not complaining.
Malouda was Chelsea's best player last season after Drogba.
For sure, especially in the latter half.
Post by: Blue on August 30, 2010, 12:48:31 PM
stink stank stunk. surprise nobody eh comment on dah tall cap we boy get. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMM12UPjOfA/url]
i mentioned it in my summary of d match. i even use de same superlative as you lol. 4 me dat was d moment of d match, thanx 4 finding d video :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 30, 2010, 11:07:28 PM
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Post by: Red Mango on September 11, 2010, 10:03:53 AM
Another efficient performance, nothing spectacular....we kept our heads and didnt concede 2 injury time goals lol..good performances from Essien, Mikel and Ramires....good 2 see Kakuta getting a run out as well :beermug:
On the previous three occasions that Chelsea have won the Premier League title, they have won their opening four games...
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 11, 2010, 10:23:56 AM
Piquionne - WORST MISS EVER :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Fundamentals again......the man was supposed to head DOWN!!
Essien gettin on bad today with 2 goals cah wait to see the highlights of this one.
Two towering, powerful headers, at that....and for Essien being one of the shortest men on the field, further proof (to the men that like to argue the point) heading ain't just about height.
Another efficient performance, nothing spectacular....we kept our heads and didnt concede 2 injury time goals lol..good performances from Essien, Mikel and Ramires....good 2 see Kakuta getting a run out as well :beermug:
Good to see that Mikel is being recognized consistently (even if it's "just" from a fellow forumite/Chelsea fan ;D ) for his subtle but valuable performances in a Chelsea uniform. His perfectly weighted pass to
and, not to mention, the ref was rel inefficient today in meting out discipline. Like he was only seeing the card-worthy offenses in one direction.
On the previous three occasions that Chelsea have won the Premier League title, they have won their opening four games...
Yeah, but we recognize that this time around, we get some rel marshmallows to eat in de earlies. The schedule will begin to put the caviar and escargot on we plate real soon......we just have continue to play well for dem food to go dong as easy.
Post by: Blue on September 12, 2010, 03:41:30 AM
Another efficient performance, nothing spectacular....we kept our heads and didnt concede 2 injury time goals lol..good performances from Essien, Mikel and Ramires....good 2 see Kakuta getting a run out as well :beermug:
Good to see that Mikel is being recognized consistently (even if it's "just" from a fellow forumite/Chelsea fan ;D ) for his subtle but valuable performances in a Chelsea uniform. His perfectly weighted pass tomolassesFerreira on the wing who, in turn, made a perfect cross for Essien's second, was that subtle brilliance that most people don't notice in his game.
It was a nice pass from Mikel. I've been very impressed with Kalou and Mikel so far this season, they have both stepped up.
Post by: chelsealife on September 12, 2010, 10:07:17 AM
Post by: Blue on September 19, 2010, 12:22:54 PM
Second half was a non-event. The big guns (Drogba, Malouda, Essien) switched off and coasted for the remainder of the game. Even then, we still had some more good chances (Kalou and Malouda in particular), but it was pretty dull by Stamford Bridge standards. Drogba would have easily had 2 or 3 goals today if Anelka had played....he is much better at teeing up Drogba than Kalou will ever be. Kalou has shown alot of improvement this season, but still lacks the composure of Anelka.
Post by: samo on September 19, 2010, 09:10:39 PM
Post by: elan on September 27, 2010, 09:52:52 AM
Post by: lefty on September 27, 2010, 10:11:15 AM
We lost to Man City with a bruck up squad. :-[
dem fellas looked uninspired, I doh know........it seem like d carling cup loss take away dey momentum :( :-\ I
Post by: elan on September 27, 2010, 10:18:24 AM
We lost to Man City with a bruck up squad. :-[
dem fellas looked uninspired, I doh know........it seem like d carling cup loss take away dey momentum :( :-\ I
Didn't get to see the game. But, they go bounce back big time.
Post by: Blue on September 27, 2010, 10:18:34 AM
We lost to Man City with a bruck up squad. :-[
dem fellas looked uninspired, I doh know........it seem like d carling cup loss take away dey momentum :( :-\ I
Man City can beat any team in the Prem on their day...they beat us twice last season.....that was our toughest away match of the season right there...ok, we lost it, but fortunately everyone else slipped up. time to move on. Man City may not be consistent but they will claim more big name scalps before the season is finished.
Post by: lefty on September 27, 2010, 10:32:54 AM
We lost to Man City with a bruck up squad. :-[
dem fellas looked uninspired, I doh know........it seem like d carling cup loss take away dey momentum :( :-\ I
Man City can beat any team in the Prem on their day...they beat us twice last season.....that was our toughest away match of the season right there...ok, we lost it, but fortunately everyone else slipped up. time to move on. Man City may not be consistent but they will claim more big name scalps before the season is finished.
wasn't taking away from Man. city...........was jus sayin Chelsea didn't look as competitive as they normally do, Man City defended like lions but, I have seen chelsea take on stubborn defenses and atleast look threatening, they didn't reaally in this game................I'm one of those fellas dat believe if dey hold dey head, dey could wrap up d season with games to spear..............as they might of done last season
Post by: Touches on September 27, 2010, 11:02:19 AM
Anyway keep up the good form. :devil:
Post by: lefty on September 27, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Hello Chelsea fans...can't say that I visit this thread.
Anyway keep up the good form. :devil:
hello ARse Anal fan..............dat is all
Post by: dinho on September 27, 2010, 11:10:07 AM
Man like he smoke something half time yes.
Hello Chelsea fans...can't say that I visit this thread.
Anyway keep up the good form. :devil:
Relax breds, Man City is no skin off we back, ah mean its not like shitty West Brom had us 3-0 down on our home turf.
Come back again and visit after next weekend. ;)
Post by: xixgon on September 27, 2010, 04:27:29 PM
Post by: chelsealife on September 27, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
Man City have one of the best defensive midfields in the world; once Yaya, Barry and De Jong workin together effectively, they could break up pretty much any team on they day yes.Yaya aint playing defensive midfield for man city. He's attacking a lot. Barry and De Jong (who btw was excellent) are doin the dirty work. Boyata was brilliant as well. We werent outplayed cuz on another day city could have well taken 3 at least. Ramires looks out of sorts and I'd like to see the 17 year old starting ahead of him right now. :D
Post by: xixgon on September 27, 2010, 08:15:46 PM
Man City have one of the best defensive midfields in the world; once Yaya, Barry and De Jong workin together effectively, they could break up pretty much any team on they day yes.Yaya aint playing defensive midfield for man city. He's attacking a lot. Barry and De Jong (who btw was excellent) are doin the dirty work. Boyata was brilliant as well. We werent outplayed cuz on another day city could have well taken 3 at least. Ramires looks out of sorts and I'd like to see the 17 year old starting ahead of him right now. :D
He's playing similarly to how he did at Barcelona - but as at the Nou Camp - he's a 2 way player. Basically what Arsenal wishes Diaby was.
Post by: Blue on September 28, 2010, 03:51:46 PM
First half, no Drogba but Malouda and Anelka were electric and we were clearly the better side. Kakuta was fairly average, but I was glad to see him getting a start....he is still learning our attacking system and seemed to lack confidence relative to his cameos last season. Zhirkov got a start as well but he was rubbish.
Second half, we were hopeless most of the time, with some noteable exceptions - Alex hit d keeper's left hand post a burners from an amazing 40 yard free kick, and Essien hit d right hand post after a beautiful incisive 8 or 9 pass move that took us from box to box (Arsenal fans, that's how it's meant to be done). In terms of individual performances in d second half, noone stood out. Ramires came on mid second half and looked clueless, had much more of the ball than in previous matches but did not seem to gel with the rest of the team at all, constantly giving the ball away...hopefully he will improve, but the Chelsea fans haven't taken to him thus far.
Arsenal on Sunday, Drogba will have his guns out.
Post by: E-man on September 29, 2010, 09:21:40 AM
(http://ttfootballhistory.com/files/images/196405-footballfestival2.jpg)
(http://ttfootballhistory.com/files/images/196405-footballfestival3.jpg)
Chelsea top Wolves 3-2 (http://ttfootballhistory.com/node/2788)
Trinidad lose to Wolves, Chelsea (http://ttfootballhistory.com/node/2789)
Post by: sammy on September 29, 2010, 09:24:41 AM
(http://ttfootballhistory.com/files/images/196405-footballfestival1.jpg)
(http://ttfootballhistory.com/files/images/196405-footballfestival2.jpg)
(http://ttfootballhistory.com/files/images/196405-footballfestival3.jpg)
Chelsea top Wolves 3-2 (http://ttfootballhistory.com/node/2788)
Trinidad lose to Wolves, Chelsea (http://ttfootballhistory.com/node/2789)
wow...nice stuff :thumbsup:
Post by: dinho on October 03, 2010, 11:18:29 AM
Big win!!
Post by: elan on October 03, 2010, 11:27:55 AM
Post by: Blue on October 03, 2010, 12:39:52 PM
Ramires is an enigma, dreadful for most of the game, one misplaced pass after another, and his defending was so poor that the Arsenal players were trying to isolate him in 1-on-1 attacks in the second half. Positionally he was awful, Mikel and Essien were continually talking to him while Drogba was literally screaming at him. But he never gave up and kept going all game, and was instrumental in the first goal. His biggest flaw seems to be his overzealousness but hopefully he will learn...for now he is a liability against big teams, but he could get away with it against Arsenal.
As for Alex bullet, I think that has to be the most lethal bullet I have ever seen, for a second the crowd was stunned, noone could believe it had gone in...then it was pandemonium.
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Post by: kicker on October 03, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Jus back from de game....2-0 again, men against boys again. A very similar game to last season's encounter at the Bridge. Arsenal had lots of possession and pretty passing, Chelsea played with ruthless efficiency. Drogba was terrorising the Arsenal defence, dem fellas was just bouncing off him. Essien was also a monster in midfield, all dem Arsenal nymphs really didnt have a chance.
Ramires is an enigma, dreadful for most of the game, one misplaced pass after another, and his defending was so poor that the Arsenal players were trying to isolate him in 1-on-1 attacks in the second half. Positionally he was awful, Mikel and Essien were continually talking to him while Drogba was literally screaming at him. But he never gave up and kept going all game, and was instrumental in the first goal. His biggest flaw seems to be his overzealousness but hopefully he will learn...for now he is a liability against big teams, but he could get away with it against Arsenal.
As for Alex bullet, I think that has to be the most lethal bullet I have ever seen, for a second the crowd was stunned, noone could believe it had gone in...then it was pandemonium.
Chelsea's quality at crucial parts of the game was just too much for Arsenal.
Ramires looks a very dodgy signing at times- As a follower of Brazil's MNT, I always found him to be inconsistent from game to game and even within games, but he is relentless and despite some sloppy play he seemed to endear himself to the crowd and the commentators...His speed and fitness manage to barely compensate for his gaffes in technique and decision making...The occasion lung busting run here and there will help erase the fans' memories of some amateur play that he's often guilty of. Ancelotti is showing alot of confidence in him too which can only help him to settle.
Every team is beatable....but with Man U showing very little personality so far this season, Arsenal depleted by injuries, Barca looking a bit off the pace a bit by their standards in Spain, Madrid still sputtering in 2nd gear and no one in Italy or Germany really showing any teeth...Chelsea looks easily the toughest team in Europe right now...Early days though and Man City faithful will probably have something to say about that :D
Post by: big dawg on October 03, 2010, 02:13:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/WT3i4DRbIAQ
Post by: STEUPS!! on October 03, 2010, 05:04:55 PM
Jus back from de game....2-0 again, men against boys again. A very similar game to last season's encounter at the Bridge. Arsenal had lots of possession and pretty passing, Chelsea played with ruthless efficiency. Drogba was terrorising the Arsenal defence, dem fellas was just bouncing off him. Essien was also a monster in midfield, all dem Arsenal nymphs really didnt have a chance.
Ramires is an enigma, dreadful for most of the game, one misplaced pass after another, and his defending was so poor that the Arsenal players were trying to isolate him in 1-on-1 attacks in the second half. Positionally he was awful, Mikel and Essien were continually talking to him while Drogba was literally screaming at him. But he never gave up and kept going all game, and was instrumental in the first goal. His biggest flaw seems to be his overzealousness but hopefully he will learn...for now he is a liability against big teams, but he could get away with it against Arsenal.
As for Alex bullet, I think that has to be the most lethal bullet I have ever seen, for a second the crowd was stunned, noone could believe it had gone in...then it was pandemonium.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_1030b.jpg)
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ryan, you have no idea how jealous i am of u :-[ :beermug:
Post by: fari on October 03, 2010, 05:46:02 PM
Post by: SOBRIQUET on October 03, 2010, 06:00:07 PM
Post by: chelsealife on October 03, 2010, 06:33:28 PM
Post by: Blue on October 04, 2010, 12:56:58 AM
ryan i disagree that it was men vs boys...maybe it looked that way live but from what i sw of the first half (i reach home halfway thru it) and 2nd half arsenal played a good game and were not overrun or bullied...chelsea kept their shape defensively, kept their concentration better, cech made big stops and the one or 2 chances that arsenal did get went wide. i prefer to lose this way than that drubbing we got last year (that was men vs boys)
By men vs boys, I was referring to the physical aspect of the game and to chelsea's focussed approach relative to arsenal's tinkering. Drogba did bully the Arsenal backline, they didn't win a single high ball against him. Essien was also bullying them. Arsenal did have some decent chances (Koscielny at the start and Chamakh wid one or two headers), but Cech didnt have much to do despite all the possession (his saves from Arshavin were fairly routine). Just my opinion, but once we went 1-0 up I was never really worried that Arsenal would get back into it.
Post by: Blue on October 04, 2010, 01:00:32 AM
Ryan. I didnt think ramires was awful today as u said he was. He wasnt a class act but he was good, his best game 4 us so far. Will improve but I want to have lamps back asap
Yeah, Seedorf was at the game yesterday and he agreed with the BBC commentary team how Ramires was great, which I dont understand at all. I would love to see his pass competion ratio, it must have been dreadful. And I'm certain that the other players were very frustrated with him, they were constantly lecturing him on his defensive positioning. But he gets an A for effort, and all he is lacking is compusure really. He will come good in time, but I will be glad to see Lampard back in the lineup.
Post by: Blue on October 04, 2010, 07:53:44 AM
wow. for a minute, I taught Roberto Carlos was playing for Chelsea..!! Great Goal
http://www.youtube.com/v/WT3i4DRbIAQ
And in case anyone thought it was a fluke....
http://www.youtube.com/v/A_W8JFhgqgc
Post by: dinho on October 04, 2010, 09:44:16 AM
yaow.. allyuh dont get tired..
its the same script running in Chelsea v Arsenal games for about the last 3 years running..
Arsenal will have more of the ball, show more attacking initiative, look pretty with some intricate touches and play. Will probably test Cech a few times and get a few chances which they will not take.
Then Drogba will score.
Then they will regroup, start pressing again, have the upper hand, put Chelsea on the backfoot...
Then Chelsea will score again.
Then they will get frustrated as Chelsea can sit back more, they will take chances, the game will open up and Chelsea will have opportunities to score even more on the counter attack.
Then at the end of the game, Wenger and the diehards will talk about how unlucky they are because they were the better side for long periods, they had chances they lapse defensively.
Its nothing to do with luck, its all tactical. Chelsea don't mind inviting Arsenal in their half, sitting and soaking up pressure because they know how vulnerable Arsenal are on the counter attack. Even if one of the chances, like Arshavin's, did go in then that doesn't mean things would turn out different. Chelsea would just adapt their tactics to press and push forward more.
Arsenal need to learn to adapt their tactics for the big 4 teams, they cannot approach the game as they would approach a game against Bolton. They are tactically naive, physically inferior and mentally weaker. Because of the way Arsenal play, i will go as far as to say this game was an easier proposition for Chelsea than last week's game versus Hull.
PS: I hope allyuh was watching, because this game showed just how much better of a defensive midfielder Obi Mikel is compared to Song.
This is a post i made last year after an Arsenal v Chelsea game in the Arsenal thread. Re-reading the bold part it almost seems prophetic, like i said this game only ever has one script. Chelsea is possibly the worst match-up in the EPL for Arsenal because of the physical gulf between both sides. I was actually surprised that Drogba didn't take advantage of that centre back pairing more because Koscielney is nashy.
I thought Ramires was very good yesterday. At the start, he kept up with poor touches and conceding possession very easily on the ball and he was continuosly playing back to the defenders when hurried in possession. But as the game went on you could see he was growing in confidence, getting involved and physical and looking to be more positive with his play.
I giving him time. He look real off the pace in his first few games, but that could be confidence and teething in problems. Technically he doesn't look up to par, but his biggest asset is that burst from midfield to force the opposition on the back foot. Lets see how it works out.
Post by: elan on October 06, 2010, 01:10:00 PM
Neymar intent on joining Chelsea in 2011
By ESPNsoccernet staff
Brazilian starlet Neymar has reiterated his desire to join Chelsea from Santos, hinting that his failed summer transfer should go through in 2011.
Neymar was expected to arrive at Stamford Bridge in the summer but Santos rejected an offer for the 18-year-old striker. Neymar insists he has no issue with his current club but that he has his mind made up about a move to the Premier League champions.
"It would be great to get the chance to play for Chelsea. I feel excited about it," Neymar told the Sun. "To play for Chelsea would be an honour. Everything they have to offer is attractive to me. They have big players, they are in big competitions, they have a strong squad and I like the way they play.
"Top players want to be part of something like that. I'm no different. But I'm happy at Santos. If I left it wouldn't be because Santos isn't a good place to be but only because the Premier League is a higher level. It wasn't the right time for me to go in the summer but I will be much better prepared for it by next year."
Post by: Blue on October 06, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
TRANSFER NEWS
Neymar intent on joining Chelsea in 2011
By ESPNsoccernet staff
Brazilian starlet Neymar has reiterated his desire to join Chelsea from Santos, hinting that his failed summer transfer should go through in 2011.
Neymar is an imps.
Post by: E-man on October 07, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
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Post by: sammy on October 08, 2010, 09:04:13 AM
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This piece of paper just sold on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370437974333) for GBP 260.00, US $413.14
i hope a trini buy it?
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2010, 06:14:24 AM
Post by: sammy on October 31, 2010, 09:45:07 AM
what a boring team.....what a boooring thread
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2010, 09:50:49 AM
:sleepy:
what a boring team.....what a boooring thread
same old Chelsea...always winning...
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2010, 09:56:57 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on October 31, 2010, 11:15:32 AM
SHIT HOUNDS :devil:
Chelsea FC reminds me of that make believe team Harchester United that is the show Dream Team right down to dey fans! All wanna beess!
Post by: lefty on October 31, 2010, 06:31:20 PM
we doh have to come on here an' suck d team balls to show support................ we revel slightly an' watch allyuh squirm an complain ................. loudly, incessantly..........annoyingly :P drink a couple :beermug: :beermug: an enjoy d show alyuh does put on...............we cool like dat 8) go'day :beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 01, 2010, 09:40:38 AM
I eh know where de HELL allyuh had we thread buried (ah look fu it in de first pages, it wasn't dey) but a jes' want to make an announcement regardin' my EPL squad: BIG SIDE IS BIG SIDE! Let's keep it up and stay as injury-free as we can, Chelsea!
Aye ah did mean to tell yuh, ah glad to see yuh boy flourishing and proving what yuh alluded to all along. I glad he gettin da opportunity under Ancelotti too because he more offensive minded than many of our recent managers and using Mikel like ah boss. Now ah seein what yuh was ravin bout, right now he is easily one ah we most consistent players. :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 07, 2010, 12:09:51 PM
I eh know where de HELL allyuh had we thread buried (ah look fu it in de first pages, it wasn't dey) but a jes' want to make an announcement regardin' my EPL squad: BIG SIDE IS BIG SIDE! Let's keep it up and stay as injury-free as we can, Chelsea!
Aye ah did mean to tell yuh, ah glad to see yuh boy flourishing and proving what yuh alluded to all along. I glad he gettin da opportunity under Ancelotti too because he more offensive minded than many of our recent managers and using Mikel like ah boss. Now ah seein what yuh was ravin bout, right now he is easily one ah we most consistent players. :beermug:
:beermug: :beermug:
We was beaten by an inspired liverpool today. Two great finishes by Torres and some good goalkeeping by and lucky bounces for Pepe Reyna. Take win, today liverpool, this will be the highlight of allyuh season.
Post by: boss on November 07, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
We was beaten by an inspired liverpool today. Two great finishes by Torres and some good goalkeeping by and lucky bounces for Pepe Reyna. Take win, today liverpool, this will be the highlight of allyuh season.
Thanks, though hopefully this won't be the highlight of this season. ;D :beermug:
Post by: dinho on November 07, 2010, 12:30:33 PM
And i cant lie, for a brazilian Ramires touches not crisp at all, he never calm. Man does make me wonder if he take the boat across from the Guyanese border steups.
Anelka.. yuh holding onto de judgement ball too frigging long, knock off yuh ball nuh hoss.
Torres wake up today and that was the difference. Hopefully this is a blip but something not smelling right.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 07, 2010, 12:54:23 PM
Something eh right with the grade ah peng Ancelotti smoking these days, but how yuh go sit down Drogba in a big game like this ???
And i cant lie, for a brazilian Ramires touches not crisp at all, he never calm. Man does make me wonder if he take the boat across from the Guyanese border steups.
Anelka.. yuh holding onto de judgement ball too frigging long, knock off yuh ball nuh hoss.
Torres wake up today and that was the difference. Hopefully this is a blip but something not smelling right.
Doh worry yuh self too much. Every body dat gih we trouble still hadda come Stamford Bridge and really prove they worthy. Only team been able to do that lately is mancity. Liverpool look like Trinidad today and we look like Sweden....like de goal was just goin' and score fuh we... 2 score fuh Trinidad instead. Even Carragher was lookin' like he old self today and yuh KNOW dat eh happenin' fuh long through this rough season. Hats off to liverpool today but they still only finishin' like in 8th place at the end of the season.
Post by: kicker on November 07, 2010, 01:02:40 PM
And i cant lie, for a brazilian Ramires touches not crisp at all, he never calm. Man does make me wonder if he take the boat across from the Guyanese border steups.
Not a technical Brazilian- He's known more for his hard work and athleticism-and clearly he is low on confidence...and clearly his teammates do not have confidence in him....They mostly give him the ball when he has no one around him....and when they give him the ball under a bit of pressure he coughs it up very often.
He started off the season playing as if he was trying too hard, now it looks like he doesn't want the ball....He needs a big game, and probably a goal or two on the home ground to get the fans behind him and to get his season going...
In all fairness, he's not the first and will not be the last player to have an adjustment period in a new league....
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 01:04:46 PM
And i cant lie, for a brazilian Ramires touches not crisp at all, he never calm. Man does make me wonder if he take the boat across from the Guyanese border steups.
Not a technical Brazilian- He's known more for his hard work and athleticism-and clearly he is low on confidence...and clearly his teammates do not have confidence in him....They mostly give him the ball when he has no one around him....and when they give him the ball under a bit of pressure he coughs it up very often.
He started off playing as if he was trying too hard, now it looks like he doesn't want the ball....He needs a big game, and probably a goal or two on the home ground to get the fans behind him and to get his season going...
In all fairness, he's not the first and will not be the last player to have an adjustment period in a new league....
The first 25 that I saw, Ramires was pulling rel stones. He lost the ball, couldn't receive, and was behind the pace. He looked lost.
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 01:07:30 PM
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 01:11:25 PM
i guess allyuh staying out of utd thread for a couple of days at least.
We don't have to go to the Man Utd thread cause all ah them over here.
Post by: Blue on November 07, 2010, 01:35:50 PM
Something eh right with the grade ah peng Ancelotti smoking these days, but how yuh go sit down Drogba in a big game like this ???
Dunno what de official reason was, but I went to the Spartak game on Wednesday and kept tellin muh partner how Drogba didnt look fit. He spent most of the game walking rather than running. Even when he scored the penalty, he just stood up there, no celebration - Drogba never does that. He really didnt look like he wanted to be on the field. I was surprised he didnt get subbed sooner against Spartak.
Post by: Blue on November 07, 2010, 01:37:11 PM
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
Drogba tests positive for malaria
By ESPNsoccernet staff
November 9, 2010
Drogba is believed to have had malaria for several weeks and, having been left out of the starting line-up for the game against Liverpool as a result of a fever, tests on Monday night confirmed the presence of the disease.
However, Ancelotti revealed Drogba is now fit again and is likely to be available to face Fulham at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday.
"We found out last night when blood tests showed he had malaria," Ancelotti said. "I don't know where he got it from.
"He had a problem. He has this virus and, obviously, he lost power and training. He lost his condition. He's had treatment and now he's okay. He'll come back immediately in the best condition.
"He suffered, obviously, because he wasn't 100% but now, after treatment, he'll be better. He had malaria. He had the tests in the last day, and they showed this kind of virus. Now he's good.
"I don't know where he got it from. I gave him a few days off and he went on holiday for a few days, and then he has malaria, but it's over now. He's okay."
A spokesman for the club added: "The course of medication he is on now will clear it up in three days. This type of malaria will not come back. We are not sure where and when he picked it up.
"It can lie dormant in the body for a long time. He is safe to play with malaria.
"When he first fell ill, we treated him symptomatically. He had a virus and it has come up and gone down, and then come up again.
"We ran tests on all the tropical diseases and viruses but, because it was dormant, there was not enough parasitic activity in his blood to pick up malaria in the initial tests.
"You re-test and re-test and when the results came back last night the parasitic activity in his blood had reached a level where it showed up."
Post by: sammy on November 09, 2010, 02:25:32 PM
U know chelsea cant afford to lose him, else they would be nothing.
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 03:39:09 PM
Post by: Blue on November 10, 2010, 04:54:44 PM
Post by: dinho on November 10, 2010, 04:59:33 PM
A win's a win. Looking forward to Lampard and Anelka returning.
Was never going to be easy, Fulham does always take this derby seriously but I real happy for the 3pts..
Kalou dread. The man does hadda throw way so much goal before he score, if he was just ah umph more clinical he would be a lethal weapon.
Post by: triniairman on November 10, 2010, 05:21:55 PM
I like that youth, I think if he gets more playing time, he would be very deadly!!A win's a win. Looking forward to Lampard and Anelka returning.
Was never going to be easy, Fulham does always take this derby seriously but I real happy for the 3pts..
Kalou dread. The man does hadda throw way so much goal before he score, if he was just ah umph more clinical he would be a lethal weapon.
Post by: Blue on November 10, 2010, 05:26:23 PM
I like that youth, I think if he gets more playing time, he would be very deadly!!A win's a win. Looking forward to Lampard and Anelka returning.
Was never going to be easy, Fulham does always take this derby seriously but I real happy for the 3pts..
Kalou dread. The man does hadda throw way so much goal before he score, if he was just ah umph more clinical he would be a lethal weapon.
Kalou gets lots of playing time nowadays. He has improved alot this season, but his brain isn't always engaged.
Post by: Blue on November 11, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
He was at Stamford Bridge yesterday night as normal and apparently he was literally on the bench today at a reserve team game and was given the news during the game.
Post by: Blue on November 12, 2010, 01:11:48 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=840883&sec=England&cc=5739
Chelsea assistant manager Ray Wilkins has been left shocked and angry after the Premier League champions chose not to renew his contract and asked him to leave with immediate effect.
Wilkins told ESPNsoccernet that he is not prepared to comment but said that he has no idea why the club kicked him out of the door with such haste.
The mild-mannered Wilkins was in no mood to discuss an issue that has left him completely in the dark, although rumours are spreading like wildfire about the reasons behind his surprise departure.
One of the biggest rumours is that the club believe they acted in their best interests by sacking Wilkins, and had good cause to do so.
According to Chelsea insiders, Wilkins was sat with Ancelotti in the Cobham stand by the touchline watching the reserves, and took a call from chief executive Ron Gourlay at half-time.
It is suggested that Carlo Ancelotti was powerless to intervene to prevent the axing of his assistant manager, for whom he had such deep admiration and to whom he gave due credit following Chelsea's Double success last season
Ancelotti hailed Wilkins in his autobiography, The Beautiful Games of an Ordinary Genius, writing: "Ray is one of those select few, always present, noble in spirit, a real blue-blood, Chelsea flows in his veins ... without him we wouldn't have won a thing."
Wilkins, a former Chelsea midfielder, assumed his role of assistant in 2008 when he was appointed as Luiz Felipe Scolari's number two. He often took up the role of Scolari's spokesman and was named caretaker boss when the Brazilian was sacked, before reverting to assistant manager under both Guus Hiddink and Carlo Ancelotti.
Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay said: "On behalf of everyone at the club I would like to thank Ray for everything he has done for Chelsea Football Club. We all wish him well for the future."
However, it remains a mystery, not only why Wilkins has been booted out unceremoniously, but who took the ultimate decision, which is proving unpopular with the Chelsea faithful.
It is also being suggested that the only way for the club to get back on track would be to appoint someone even more popular than Wilkins, such as former Stamford Bridge favourite Gianfranco Zola.
But if Ancelotti did get his way in appointing his own man, than it is being suggested that Paulo Maldini, with whom he worked for so long and successfully as manager and player at AC Milan, would be his choice.
Post by: Big Magician on November 12, 2010, 01:47:04 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 12, 2010, 07:31:24 AM
::) ::) ::)
Post by: jai john on November 12, 2010, 07:49:47 AM
Post by: sammy on November 12, 2010, 08:28:06 AM
Post by: dinho on November 12, 2010, 08:35:07 AM
Dunno what it is nuh, when the ship sailing smooth the people in the cabin does always wanna rock de boat for no reason.. steups.
Post by: elan on November 12, 2010, 08:49:18 AM
Big club... such a Classy club.
::) ::) ::)
Ronaldo and in recent times Rooney. Don't throw stones.
Post by: elan on November 12, 2010, 08:51:20 AM
Post by: Blue on November 12, 2010, 01:10:54 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2217759,00.html
Posted on: Fri 12 Nov 2010
Carlo Ancelotti has spoken for the first time following Ray Wilkins' departure from the club on Thursday, thanking him for his service over the past year.
He said:
'I want to say one thing. Ray was a fantastic assistant coach - I want to say thanks to him because he was a fantastic support last season and this season.
'He did a fantastic job and helped me and all the team to win the Double, so the first thing is to say a lot of thanks to him. He is my friend, I have a fantastic relationship with him and I will have a fantastic relationship with him. He knew very well English football and has a lot of experience as assistant. His job he did very well.'
'The club made this decision, I think it was a difficult decision for everyone but I have respect for this decision. I have trust in all the staff working with me, and now we have to move on.
'We have to look forward, stay focused on the next game because it is an important season for us and it is important to move on.
'I spoke with the players to tell them the club made the decision, but as I said before we have to move on and stay focused. The players are in focus and will continue to stay focused.
'Obviously you are interested to ask a lot of questions about this but I don't want to say any more about this.'
Post by: Blue on November 12, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on November 12, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
Post by: Blue on November 12, 2010, 01:32:56 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 12, 2010, 03:43:27 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
coming from the man that supports Inter Milan
which club has higher standards..Inter or Chelsea?
huh Waggonist?
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 12, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
i eh feeling this one at all...
Dunno what it is nuh, when the ship sailing smooth the people in the cabin does always wanna rock de boat for no reason.. steups.
couldn't agree wit yuh more!! :beermug:
I still shakin' meh head......side runnin' smood, smood, maintainin' top spot, linin' dey self up fuh a good CL run and dem want to bring mayhem upon de club. Loud fackin' steups!
Post by: giggsy11 on November 12, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
And what would that be win three EPLs in a row or a Champions League? :beermug:
Post by: Blue on November 12, 2010, 05:50:56 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
And what would that be win three EPLs in a row or a Champions League? :beermug:
lol ;D
Post by: Blue on November 12, 2010, 05:52:16 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
coming from the man that supports Inter Milan
which club has higher standards..Inter or Chelsea?
huh Waggonist?
Go back in yuh own thread and discuss 2nd place.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 12, 2010, 06:52:44 PM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
coming from the man that supports Inter Milan
which club has higher standards..Inter or Chelsea?
huh Waggonist?
Go back in yuh own thread and discuss 2nd place.
I rather discuss it with you since runner up was a common theme for you guys between 06-09
VIVA JOHN TERRY
VIVA JOHN TERRY
COULD HAVE WON THE CUP
BUT HE FU*KED IT UP
VIVA JOHN TERRY
Post by: Blue on November 13, 2010, 08:43:32 AM
And Lampard is out with a new injury. Only the dross left, so we looking at a midfield of Zhirkov, Ramires and Mikel.....things going from bad 2 worse.
At least you are still in first.
yeah, but we have higher standards than u guys :beermug:
coming from the man that supports Inter Milan
which club has higher standards..Inter or Chelsea?
huh Waggonist?
Go back in yuh own thread and discuss 2nd place.
I rather discuss it with you since runner up was a common theme for you guys between 06-09
VIVA JOHN TERRY
VIVA JOHN TERRY
COULD HAVE WON THE CUP
BUT HE FU*KED IT UP
VIVA JOHN TERRY
(http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=11178110)
hard luck against Villa, yall dropped points yet again, but I think yall will bounce back eventually :beermug:
Post by: elan on November 14, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
Hide the thread before Man United fans show up.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 12:49:52 PM
WTH going on with we team boy. Is level :whip: we getting in we waist in this rounds. They trying to :challenge: the Blue otta we or wha. Lawd fadder ah :-[
Hide the thread before Man United fans show up.
:D
We didn't look good today at all, Breds and I was done counting them 3 points. Zhirkoff had a rel bad game, Anelka is missing something but ah cyah put meh finger on what it is (maybe his finishing) Malouda's game has dropped off over the past few weeks and Drogba seems to need a little more time to recover from that bout of malaria he had. Credit to Sunderland, though, they played well and the hustled like they really wanted to win the game. ......and of course....since Lampard out with injury, we just cyah get a proper corner or cross into the 18 to save we life. That is shameful.
Post by: D.H.W on November 14, 2010, 01:14:51 PM
Post by: sammy on November 14, 2010, 01:17:49 PM
Post by: Blue on November 14, 2010, 01:27:11 PM
Cech - 7 - made some great saves and wasnt at fault for any of the goals. The defence left him exposed all day long.
Cole - 6 - ok going forward, but should have been more cautious today given the lack of Terry/Alex. Mistake for the third goal, but academic at that point.
Ivanovic - 7 - tried his best, but was hampered with the inept Ferreira next to him. Had no raport with Ferreira and it clearly affected his own performance. Did well though.
Ferreira - 3 - in his defence he is not a CB...but he was shockingly bad today. Wouldnt mind seeing him never play for us again.
Bosingwa - 5 - didnt do much, seemed scared to go forward given our defensive frailty today
Zhirkov - 6 - one of his better performances for us, but he isnt in the same class as Lampard. Did look much more a part of the team today though.
Mikel - 5 - battled hard....but lost as many challenges as he won.
Ramires - 4 - another helter-skelter showing...was cheered off the pitch today, such was the crowd's frustration with him...never heard anyone get that before at the Bridge. Cant be good for his confidence.
Malouda - 6 - seemed more likely than most to make something happen, but Sunderland defended him well.
Drogba - 5 - definitely over his illness, however had no service from the midfield all day.
Anelka - 6 - like Malouda he looked decent, but was simply shut down all over the park by excellent S'land defending
Subs:
Kalou - 5 - typically aimless
McEachran - 6 - very composed, but never really likely to change the game.
Kakuta - 5 - didnt do much. has disappointed this season, will be interesting to see whether he's offered a new contract.
Side note - was walking towards the stadium today and got overtaken by Avram Grant and his son. New assistant manager perhaps? :)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 14, 2010, 01:54:47 PM
doh show allyuh Blue black face in utd thread for at least 2 wks eh.
Guess we ha to take dat an cool it. Lawd da was shit!! Ramires 18M?!! Dat Laborer look rell cleless jedd!!!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 02:15:18 PM
Well that was the worst I've ever seen us beaten and we deserved it. That result illustrates the gulf in class between our first string and our reserves. We didnt play great but the truth is Sunderland showed exactly what can be achieved against that particular group of players -several of them just aren't top class. We might have the best first team in the league but our reserves are distinctly average. I had a bad feeling about this game beforehand and was baffled when I saw Ferreira in for Terry, even with Bruma on the bench. My ratings for the game:
Cech - 7 - made some great saves and wasnt at fault for any of the goals. The defence left him exposed all day long.
Cole - 6 - ok going forward, but should have been more cautious today given the lack of Terry/Alex. Mistake for the third goal, but academic at that point.
Ivanovic - 7 - tried his best, but was hampered with the inept Ferreira next to him. Had no raport with Ferreira and it clearly affected his own performance. Did well though.
Ferreira - 3 - in his defence he is not a CB...but he was shockingly bad today. Wouldnt mind seeing him never play for us again.
Bosingwa - 5 - didnt do much, seemed scared to go forward given our defensive frailty today
Zhirkov - 6 - one of his better performances for us, but he isnt in the same class as Lampard. Did look much more a part of the team today though.
Mikel - 5 - battled hard....but lost as many challenges as he won.
Ramires - 4 - another helter-skelter showing...was cheered off the pitch today, such was the crowd's frustration with him...never heard anyone get that before at the Bridge. Cant be good for his confidence.
Malouda - 6 - seemed more likely than most to make something happen, but Sunderland defended him well.
Drogba - 5 - definitely over his illness, however had no service from the midfield all day.
Anelka - 6 - like Malouda he looked decent, but was simply shut down all over the park by excellent S'land defending
Subs:
Kalou - 5 - typically aimless
McEachran - 6 - very composed, but never really likely to change the game.
Kakuta - 5 - didnt do much. has disappointed this season, will be interesting to see whether he's offered a new contract.
Side note - was walking towards the stadium today and got overtaken by Avram Grant and his son. New assistant manager perhaps? :)
I eh know....maybe watching the game on tv does distort things as opposed to watching it live, but....I seriously cannot agree with most of your assessment of this game here jed. I find allyuh men rel hard on Ramires: The man worked rel hard in the midfield and was the recipient of some questionable refereeeing because I see the man was steady gettin' rough up and few calls were going his way. Mikel lost possession ONCE for the entire game and it was because he was fouled. He and Petr Cech were actually Chelsea's best players on the day. Zhikoff had a TERRIBLE game, losing the ball, making bad passes to nowhere and was left trailing his man, Henderson, on the second goal. I would hardly call it his best game so far. Ferreira was hardly a liability today and even surprised me at times with actual bursts of.....speed. As for the subs, first one, Kakuta, I don't know how much you expect him to do, he only comes on in spurts and each time shows flashes of brilliance, if not potential and I think Chelsea would be foolish to just let him go. The other young kid, same thing. I expect more out of Kalou and HE certainly disappointed. Other than that, EVERYBODY played below par today, Drogba included.
Post by: Blue on November 14, 2010, 03:01:57 PM
I eh know....maybe watching the game on tv does distort things as opposed to watching it live, but....I seriously cannot agree with most of your assessment of this game here jed. I find allyuh men rel hard on Ramires: The man worked rel hard in the midfield and was the recipient of some questionable refereeeing because I see the man was steady gettin' rough up and few calls were going his way. Mikel lost possession ONCE for the entire game and it was because he was fouled. He and Petr Cech were actually Chelsea's best players on the day. Zhikoff had a TERRIBLE game, losing the ball, making bad passes to nowhere and was left trailing his man, Henderson, on the second goal. I would hardly call it his best game so far. Ferreira was hardly a liability today and even surprised me at times with actual bursts of.....speed. As for the subs, first one, Kakuta, I don't know how much you expect him to do, he only comes on in spurts and each time shows flashes of brilliance, if not potential and I think Chelsea would be foolish to just let him go. The other young kid, same thing. I expect more out of Kalou and HE certainly disappointed. Other than that, EVERYBODY played below par today, Drogba included.
I agree, watchin on TV is different to watchin live...you've seen things at a better angle and have the benefit of replay...whereas live you have a better view of player emotions/interactions and off the ball running and positional play.
Ramires - it wasn't just me, like I said, the whole stadium cheered when he was subbed. Yes he works hard, but he lacks any composure whatsoever. Most of his offering is hard tackles and graft, when the reality is he is there in place of Lampard...its offence we need from him...he is not good at spotting a through ball. When your team's strength is playing one touch football, composure is key.
Mikel - was just ok. he did not perform well defensively...his job is to fill in in defence when cole/bosingwa bomb forward...clearly that didnt work today. I would have to see the replay, but I am pretty sure he was one of the players who Onuoha dribbled past for the first goal...Onuoha? Really?
Zhirkov - he had our best chances offensively and for once seemed to be on the same wavelength as Ashley Cole (who usually looks vex wid him). To me, he was the only midfielder who tried to play attacking football.
Ferreira - Awful, Awful, Awful, Awful, Awful. Gyan was having a field day with him, particularly in the first half (even if it didnt lead to a goal). You could see the confusion on the face of Ivanovic, he had no confidence in his partner. I cant even debate this one, it was easily the worst performance I have seen from a Chelsea centre back. His positioning was dreadful. His ridiculous missed interception (and it was not his first error) led to the initial barrage before the first goal. For the second goal he was stranded halfway up the pitch.
As for Kakuta and McEachran, I'm not blaming them at all, just saying they didnt do much.
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 03:09:31 PM
Post by: dinho on November 14, 2010, 03:42:26 PM
And i maintain, Ramires hails from the border of South Guyana and Northern Brazil, probably on the Guyanese coast because his brand of football is decidedly non-Brazilian. Starting to think its a confidence thing.
I seriously cannot believe Sunderland beat us 3-0 at home.
Time to get the act together.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 14, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
BUT... after all the shit talk I taking this season:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I freak when I hear the result..I didnt believe it... I thought men was on shit
Ray Wilkins boy lol.. the man was holding the team together awa?
haha allyuh keep hitting teams 6... we still in 2nd gear and only 3 points behind and you know the months ahead we shift them gears upwards
Post by: D.H.W on November 14, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
Post by: elan on November 14, 2010, 05:40:55 PM
hoss I doe like to come in here to rub in when allyuh do shit
BUT... after all the shit talk I taking this season:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I freak when I hear the result..I didnt believe it... I thought men was on shit
Ray Wilkins boy lol.. the man was holding the team together awa?
haha allyuh keep hitting teams 6... we still in 2nd gear and only 3 points behind and you know the months ahead we shift them gears upwards
We lorse 1 game and get a cutarse the 2nd game and we still on top.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 14, 2010, 05:56:41 PM
I hope this shows teams to give it a go against Chelsea... the fear factor from the small clubs has to end... they are not unbeatable nor are they anything to fear
Post by: Blue on November 15, 2010, 12:50:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ADTUDx8-Pbg
Post by: elan on November 15, 2010, 01:02:51 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 15, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
PUT THAT IN YUH PIPE N STOKE IT!
Post by: kicker on November 15, 2010, 09:09:23 PM
Chelsea looked hungover though...
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 15, 2010, 09:12:15 PM
I eh know....maybe watching the game on tv does distort things as opposed to watching it live, but....I seriously cannot agree with most of your assessment of this game here jed. I find allyuh men rel hard on Ramires: The man worked rel hard in the midfield and was the recipient of some questionable refereeeing because I see the man was steady gettin' rough up and few calls were going his way. Mikel lost possession ONCE for the entire game and it was because he was fouled. He and Petr Cech were actually Chelsea's best players on the day. Zhikoff had a TERRIBLE game, losing the ball, making bad passes to nowhere and was left trailing his man, Henderson, on the second goal. I would hardly call it his best game so far. Ferreira was hardly a liability today and even surprised me at times with actual bursts of.....speed. As for the subs, first one, Kakuta, I don't know how much you expect him to do, he only comes on in spurts and each time shows flashes of brilliance, if not potential and I think Chelsea would be foolish to just let him go. The other young kid, same thing. I expect more out of Kalou and HE certainly disappointed. Other than that, EVERYBODY played below par today, Drogba included.
I agree, watchin on TV is different to watchin live...you've seen things at a better angle and have the benefit of replay...whereas live you have a better view of player emotions/interactions and off the ball running and positional play.
Ramires - it wasn't just me, like I said, the whole stadium cheered when he was subbed. Yes he works hard, but he lacks any composure whatsoever. Most of his offering is hard tackles and graft, when the reality is he is there in place of Lampard...its offence we need from him...he is not good at spotting a through ball. When your team's strength is playing one touch football, composure is key.
Mikel - was just ok. he did not perform well defensively...his job is to fill in in defence when cole/bosingwa bomb forward...clearly that didnt work today. I would have to see the replay, but I am pretty sure he was one of the players who Onuoha dribbled past for the first goal...Onuoha? Really?
Zhirkov - he had our best chances offensively and for once seemed to be on the same wavelength as Ashley Cole (who usually looks vex wid him). To me, he was the only midfielder who tried to play attacking football.
Ferreira - Awful, Awful, Awful, Awful, Awful. Gyan was having a field day with him, particularly in the first half (even if it didnt lead to a goal). You could see the confusion on the face of Ivanovic, he had no confidence in his partner. I cant even debate this one, it was easily the worst performance I have seen from a Chelsea centre back. His positioning was dreadful. His ridiculous missed interception (and it was not his first error) led to the initial barrage before the first goal. For the second goal he was stranded halfway up the pitch.
As for Kakuta and McEachran, I'm not blaming them at all, just saying they didnt do much.
Well, unless fans are shouting epithets at you as you're being subbed off, how can you tell that the cheers were for his being taken off and not for the hard work he put in on the field?
Yes, Mikel was beaten on that first goal, after he made a last-ditch attempt at sticking a foot out to stop the man that was allowed to waltz in the box with the ball at his feet. Funny you should mention Bosinwa because he just stood there on his heels almost inviting the man to dance with the ball towards goal just before Mikel got beaten.
Zhirkof may have had our best chance at scoring (and he blew it terribly) but he did nothing else but make bad passes, mistrapped a ball or two to give away possesion and (like everybody else) can't seem to deliver a proper ball into the 18.
Ferreira wasn't as awful as you make him out to be. Every body knows what his liability is: his speed, and having a hard time against Asamoah Gyan (especially if you're a slow-ass defender) and having him score only one goal isn't all that bad.
....and as far as the two young subs, I wasn't suggesting that you were blaming them as much as I was asking what were you really expecting to get out of them. The whole team was being overrun by Stoke and there was very little that these two youths could have done to stem the tide or change the result.
Post by: Blue on November 16, 2010, 01:07:37 AM
Well, unless fans are shouting epithets at you as you're being subbed off, how can you tell that the cheers were for his being taken off and not for the hard work he put in on the field?
Trust me
Yes, Mikel was beaten on that first goal, after he made a last-ditch attempt at sticking a foot out to stop the man that was allowed to waltz in the box with the ball at his feet. Funny you should mention Bosinwa because he just stood there on his heels almost inviting the man to dance with the ball towards goal just before Mikel got beaten.
Zhirkof may have had our best chance at scoring (and he blew it terribly) but he did nothing else but make bad passes, mistrapped a ball or two to give away possesion and (like everybody else) can't seem to deliver a proper ball into the 18.
Fair enough, those were just my opinions.
Ferreira wasn't as awful as you make him out to be. Every body knows what his liability is: his speed, and having a hard time against Asamoah Gyan (especially if you're a slow-ass defender) and having him score only one goal isn't all that bad.
Dunno why you think Ferreira is slow. He isnt particularly slow, just not very good. As a defender, if a man is standing up behind you and you have no idea he is there, that's poor.
Post by: dinho on November 16, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
Terry out indefinitely and Alex gone for knee surgery and will be out for 6-8 weeks.
Is who to put in the hole now with Ivanovic?
Essien might hadda pull ah shift.
Post by: Blue on November 16, 2010, 12:41:57 PM
Real pressure...
Terry out indefinitely and Alex gone for knee surgery and will be out for 6-8 weeks.
Is who to put in the hole now with Ivanovic?
Essien might hadda pull ah shift.
Essien, Bruma, Mancienne (if possible), anyone else, Ferreira - in that order.
Unless Terry goes for surgery, I hope he won't be out for too long though. The man is a beast.
Post by: big dawg on November 16, 2010, 08:50:38 PM
Janurary
Transfer
Window
Post by: dinho on November 18, 2010, 04:05:40 PM
http://www.soccerway.com/news/2010/November/18/chelsea-name-emenalo-as-wilkins-successor/ (http://www.soccerway.com/news/2010/November/18/chelsea-name-emenalo-as-wilkins-successor/)
English champions Chelsea on Thursday promoted Michael Emenalo to the role of assistant first team coach, replacing Ray Wilkins(L), seen here with headcoach Carlo Ancelotti in February 2010 and who left the club last week.
LONDON (AFP) - English champions Chelsea on Thursday promoted Michael Emenalo to the role of assistant first team coach, replacing Ray Wilkins, who left the club last week.
Emenalo, 45, represented Nigeria at the 1994 World Cup during his playing career and has been at Chelsea for three years.
"Chelsea Football Club is pleased to announce the appointment of Michael Emenalo to the position of assistant first team coach," read a statement on the Chelsea website.
"He moves up from his previous position of head opposition scout.
"Michael has been an important part of the first team management structure since his arrival in October 2007, and his promotion to assistant first team coach is recognition of his efforts to date."
Former England international Wilkins, who was in his second spell as assistant coach at Chelsea, left the club abruptly on November 11 after his contract was not renewed.
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 10:57:02 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2010, 10:58:55 AM
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 11:00:24 AM
Birmingham Chelsea
3(1) Shots (on Goal) 32(9)
10 Fouls 3
4 Corner Kicks 16
0 Offsides 0
38% Time of Possession 62%
2 Yellow Cards 0
0 Red Cards 0
9 Saves 0
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 11:01:34 AM
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
.....like we regressin' to the half-season under abramogrant, losing games we eh supposed to be losing, to teams we eh supposed to be losing to. >:( LFS! (Loud Fackin' STEUPS!)
:heehee:
Post by: Daft Trini on November 20, 2010, 11:26:53 AM
Post by: sammy on November 20, 2010, 11:40:58 AM
Lawd we ketchup :rotfl:
and we eh hit we stride yet.........not to mention we "big player" eh help the cause as yet. Tee hee
Post by: dinho on November 20, 2010, 11:43:59 AM
Post by: lefty on November 20, 2010, 12:03:36 PM
Post by: kicker on November 20, 2010, 12:23:09 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2010, 12:53:21 PM
Team in turmoil?
Nah...jes' a lil injury woes, dize all. We done on we way back from dis arready.
Post by: Peong on November 20, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
Post by: lefty on November 20, 2010, 01:21:35 PM
Team in turmoil?
Nah...jes' a lil injury woes, dize all. We done on we way back from dis arready.
nah dread dat Ray Wilkins episode playin some part in all ah dat..........even wit d injuries tings ent seem altogether right wit d team.............or maybe is jus me tink so ???
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 20, 2010, 02:37:37 PM
Match Stats
Birmingham Chelsea
3(1) Shots (on Goal) 32(9)
10 Fouls 3
4 Corner Kicks 16
0 Offsides 0
38% Time of Possession 62%
2 Yellow Cards 0
0 Red Cards 0
9 Saves 0
1.........................Goals..................... 0
3.........................Points.....................0
0.......................Pathetic %................100
:beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2010, 02:43:01 PM
Team in turmoil?
Nah...jes' a lil injury woes, dize all. We done on we way back from dis arready.
nah dread dat Ray Wilkins episode playin some part in all ah dat..........even wit d injuries tings ent seem altogether right wit d team.............or maybe is jus me tink so ???
Nah, I agere wit yuh, hoss....ah was jes' tryin' and puton a brave face.
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2010, 02:45:33 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Match Stats
Birmingham Chelsea
3(1) Shots (on Goal) 32(9)
10 Fouls 3
4 Corner Kicks 16
0 Offsides 0
38% Time of Possession 62%
2 Yellow Cards 0
0 Red Cards 0
9 Saves 0
1.........................Goals..................... 0
3.........................Points.....................0
0.......................Pathetic %................100
:beermug:
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Match Stats
Birmingham Chelsea
3(1) Shots (on Goal) 32(9)
10 Fouls 3
4 Corner Kicks 16
0 Offsides 0
38% Time of Possession 62%
2 Yellow Cards 0
0 Red Cards 0
9 Saves 0
1.........................Goals..................... 0
3.........................Points.....................0
0.......................Pathetic %................100
:beermug:
That's true you right.
It's always tough to beat a team with 8 field players and 4 out of the eight on yellow.
Post by: dinho on November 20, 2010, 05:23:51 PM
Match Stats
Birmingham Chelsea
3(1) Shots (on Goal) 32(9)
10 Fouls 3
4 Corner Kicks 16
0 Offsides 0
38% Time of Possession 62%
2 Yellow Cards 0
0 Red Cards 0
9 Saves 0
1.........................Goals..................... 0
3.........................Points.....................0
0.......................Pathetic %................100
:beermug:
lol
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 21, 2010, 05:21:28 PM
and now this?
"Huge rumours doing press rounds that Carlo Ancelotti may have resigned at Chelsea"
Ohhhhhh Chelsea are a massive club(8)
Post by: elan on November 21, 2010, 05:26:52 PM
4 losses for the season, injury crisis, Sacking Wilkins, Elan and Dinho
and now this?
"Huge rumours doing press rounds that Carlo Ancelotti may have resigned at Chelsea"
Ohhhhhh Chelsea are a massive club(8)
We doh get frantic and emotional fella. Things like this happens. We players doh make comess and throw tantrum sorry. We got swagg even when we in ah storm with no umbrella.........
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 21, 2010, 05:29:37 PM
4 losses for the season, injury crisis, Sacking Wilkins, Elan and Dinho
and now this?
"Huge rumours doing press rounds that Carlo Ancelotti may have resigned at Chelsea"
Ohhhhhh Chelsea are a massive club(8)
We doh get frantic and emotional fella. Things like this happens. We players doh make comess and throw tantrum sorry. We got swagg even when we in ah storm with no umbrella.........
hopefully your massive 4 prem trophies can shield allyuh from the lightening
too bad you dont have the CL .. bigger trophy might have helped
you wanna borrow 3?
Post by: D.H.W on November 21, 2010, 06:14:26 PM
Post by: dinho on November 21, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
Dey coming out in numbers boy!!
We not afraid, at the end of the day our team has quality through and through (besides Ramires but we working on he). A lil injury situation and some administrative matters is small thing, by next couple weeks we will be firmly back on track.
It could be worse.. We could have lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with a Mexican and some homeless dude.
Then i would know my club was going nowhere and fast.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 21, 2010, 09:11:12 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/ant.gif) (http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/ant.gif) (http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/ant.gif)
Dey coming out in numbers boy!!
We not afraid, at the end of the day our team has quality through and through (besides Ramires but we working on he). A lil injury situation and some administrative matters is small thing, by next couple weeks we will be firmly back on track.
It could be worse.. We could have lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with a Mexican and some homeless dude.
Then i would know my club was going nowhere and fast.
that Mexican bad though.. man so bad he score with his teeth against Chelsea ;D
He's tall
He's thin
You'll find him in a Bin
Bebe! Bebe! Bebe!
:beermug:
agreed with the lack of quality we have.. but surely your quality isnt all that spectacular when you win the league by 1 point and are even with us after we've performed poorly in majority of our games.... so maybe you need to take a look at the "quality" in the blue corner before discussing ours
Post by: sammy on November 22, 2010, 07:10:32 AM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/ant.gif) (http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/ant.gif) (http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/ant.gif)
Dey coming out in numbers boy!!
We not afraid, at the end of the day our team has quality through and through (besides Ramires but we working on he). A lil injury situation and some administrative matters is small thing, by next couple weeks we will be firmly back on track.
It could be worse.. We could have lost Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with a Mexican and some homeless dude.
Then i would know my club was going nowhere and fast.
that Mexican bad though.. man so bad he score with his teeth against Chelsea ;D
He's tall
He's thin
You'll find him in a Bin
Bebe! Bebe! Bebe!
:beermug:
agreed with the lack of quality we have.. but surely your quality isnt all that spectacular when you win the league by 1 point and are even with us after we've performed poorly in majority of our games.... so maybe you need to take a look at the "quality" in the blue corner before discussing ours
waaaaadap!!!!
:devil: :devil:
Post by: sammy on November 22, 2010, 07:53:34 AM
Carlo Ancelotti has further fuelled Chelsea’s crisis by admitting he is not in total control of team affairs.
The injury-hit champions are reeling after three defeats in four Premier League games.
Their lead at the top has gone after successive defeats to Sunderland and Birmingham.
Chelsea’s shock reverses have coincided with owner Roman Abramovich ruthlessly axing Ancelotti’s popular assistant Ray Wilkins.
Ancelotti, who is said to be “disillusioned” and at his lowest point since being at Chelsea, has also been told scout Michael Emenalo has been promoted without the Italian’s full approval to help fill the void.
It was put to Ancelotti at St Andrews that the likes of Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United would not tolerate such interference from powers above.
Ancelotti responded: “If you have to compare me with Ferguson, it’s a different position.
“Ferguson has total control of the team - I have just technical direction. Full stop.”
Ancelotti’s pointed remark is his strongest reaction to the cut-backs by Chelsea’s powerbrokers.
After winning the title last season, Chelsea offloaded Joe Cole, Michael Ballack, Ricardo Carvalho, Juliano Belletti and Deco in a cost-cutting measure that trimmed £20m from the annual wage bill.
But the champions’ lack of strength in depth has been exposed due to injuries and suspensions to the likes of John Terry, Frank Lampard and Michael Essien.
Defender Alex only played in the 1-0 loss at Birmingham after postponing knee surgery.
Assistant first team coaches Paul Clement and Emenalo were in the dug-out with Ancelotti at Brum.
While Wilkins is suing for unfair dismissal after being controversially sacked from his coaching role at half-time during a reserve game.
But Ancelotti again distanced himself from Wilkins’ sacking adding: “This is not my decision.”
Chelsea will look to respond tomorrow when they host Zilina in the Champions League Group F.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Chelsea-boss-Carlo-Ancelotti-admits-he-doesn-t-have-total-control-like-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-does-at-Manchester-United-article633977.html
CARLO ANCELOTTI: CHELSEA MANAGER FEELING THE STRAIN
CHELSEA boss Carlo Ancelotti is believed to be considering his own position as his sacked former assistant Ray Wilkins prepares to sue the club.
Ancelotti’s table-topping team have been stuttering – they were dumped 1-0 at Birmingham yesterday for their second League defeat in a row. And he has been unhappy at losing his right hand man Wilkins, known as ‘Mr Chelsea’.
What became apparent was that Ancelotti, despite winning the Double in his fi rst season, had no room for manoeuvre when Wilkins went.
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It’s believed that any concerted opposition to the move would have left Ancelotti’s own position vulnerable. The
club’s opposition scout Michael Emenalo has now been brought in as Ancelotti’s assistant first team coach, replacing the popular Wilkins – a decision taken in the boardroom.
Friends of the former AC Milan manager say that Ancelotti is living on the edge at a tension-filled club and could be tipped over it… if any more decisions are made behind his back.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Post by: D.H.W on November 22, 2010, 10:57:59 AM
Post by: Blue on November 22, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
Post by: dinho on November 22, 2010, 04:56:28 PM
This thread real popular nowadays....guess its cuz we're top of the Prem ;D
yuh know how it does go.. who does pelt stone at mango tree that not bearing?
Post by: Bitter on November 22, 2010, 05:39:35 PM
This thread real popular nowadays....guess its cuz we're top of the Prem ;D
yuh know how it does go.. who does pelt stone at mango tree that not bearing?
The Soca Warriors tree dry up and dead, but man still pelting.
Post by: Blue on November 23, 2010, 05:21:16 PM
Van Aarnholt - 8 - Excellent. First time I've seen him live and he is very, very good. Adequate (but not perfect) defensively, but on the offensive end he is awesome, every bit as good as Ashley Cole. Would happily see him fill in for Ashley Cole in a few Prem games.
Bruma - 7 - Pretty good. Looked solid all game and is clearly miles better than Ferreira could ever be at CB. Possibly could have done more to prevent Zilina's goal, but I'm being harsh.
Kakuta - 5 - Very disappointing and came off at half time. Just never got going and didnt add anything to the game.
McEachran - 6 - Solid. Looked very composed (unlike Ramires) in the DM role but was never really tested so cant rate him any higher.
Sturridge - 7 - Got a goal, but I still don't rate him. He has ability but refuses to pass the ball. Got himself into great positions with his strength, touch and speed on the wings and could have setup 3 or 4 goals if he wasn't so greedy. The fella is a dunce.
Mellis - * - Cobo sweat on debut
Post by: Blue on November 27, 2010, 06:15:10 AM
Posted on: Sat 27 Nov 2010
Chelsea Football Club can confirm that Frank Arnesen has resigned from his position of sporting director effective at the end of this season.
In tendering his resignation Frank said, 'It has been a privilege and an honour for me to work for such a big club with so many great people.
'After six wonderful years I have decided to seek a new challenge when my contract expires at the end of this season.'
'It has been a tremendous journey and I would like to thank everyone at Chelsea, especially Roman [Abramovich], for giving me the incredible opportunity to help build on the club's Academy and youth system along with our greatly talented academy and scouting staff.
'We are now seeing the fruits of that labour as our stated aim was to get one player from the Academy into the first team each year from 2010. We have a great crop of young players now coming through, and I feel it's the right time for me to start looking towards a new challenge.
'The past two years I've worked more closely with the first team as sporting director, and it has been a joy to work alongside Carlo Ancelotti and this exceptionally talented squad and staff.
'It is always difficult to take big decisions like this, but it is entirely my decision. I'm looking forward to continuing my work here until such time as the club decides which way they want to move forward. With that in mind I wanted to make the decision now, giving the club plenty of time to make the necessary plans for the end of the season. I will always be grateful to the club and Chelsea will always be in my heart.
'Chelsea FC chairman Bruce Buck said, 'Frank has spoken to me several times over the past year with regards to seeking new challenges, so his decision comes as no surprise to us. Frank has done an exceptional job here at Chelsea over the last six years and the incredibly strong Academy and youth system Frank leaves behind him is a fitting tribute to his time at Chelsea. We do appreciate that he has given us plenty of notice which gives us time to consider whether and how we restructure the football department.
'Frank has told us he has thoroughly enjoyed his time at Chelsea and we've thoroughly enjoyed having him. On behalf of everyone at the club I thank him for all his efforts and wish him well as he considers his next football challenge.'
Post by: D.H.W on November 28, 2010, 09:34:10 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on November 28, 2010, 09:43:08 AM
thread quiet boy :heehee:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Is Sunday, men at church! :angel:
Post by: Brownsugar on November 28, 2010, 09:45:34 AM
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Post by: kicker on November 28, 2010, 12:12:35 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
Post by: sammy on November 28, 2010, 12:28:37 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
lots of managers make those excuses.... (even those at Real) except maybe Sir Fergie ;)
Post by: elan on November 28, 2010, 01:14:25 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 28, 2010, 02:02:37 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
Maybe the control was all his until recently. What if the powers-that-be only recently started meddlin' in the man business. It's poosible that that might be the case. I dunno, but it seems like Jose mighta went thru the same thing because wasn't the word out that it was Abramovic that was pushing for Shevchenko and that was one of the major issues that led to Jose's departure?
Post by: Blue on November 28, 2010, 05:27:49 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
Maybe the control was all his until recently. What if the powers-that-be only recently started meddlin' in the man business. It's poosible that that might be the case. I dunno, but it seems like Jose mighta went thru the same thing because wasn't the word out that it was Abramovic that was pushing for Shevchenko and that was one of the major issues that led to Jose's departure?
All dis talk about loss of control etc is sh!t. Italian managers are used to operating alongside technical directors who run the business side of things. At the end of the day, we are missing key players which is why we're losing, nothing to do with Abramovic, Ancelotti or anyone off the pitch.
We scored 6 in our first 2 games this season - guess what, those were the last two games Lampard played in. Since then we have been pretty damn average, even when we've won. The only other times that we scored more than 2 were against Blackpool, Zilina away and Spartak...none of them were top opposition and we didnt play particularly well in any of those matches anyway. The media often get lazy and praise our football, cuz we usually find a way to win, but we have been playing poorly since the Stoke game (way back in August). We have been grinding out results in situations where we were obliterating teams last year. And now with the recent spate of injuries/suspensions, our lack of depth is exposed.
Give us back Essien and Lampard and we are good to go
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 28, 2010, 05:51:26 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
Maybe the control was all his until recently. What if the powers-that-be only recently started meddlin' in the man business. It's poosible that that might be the case. I dunno, but it seems like Jose mighta went thru the same thing because wasn't the word out that it was Abramovic that was pushing for Shevchenko and that was one of the major issues that led to Jose's departure?
All dis talk about loss of control etc is sh!t. Italian managers are used to operating alongside technical directors who run the business side of things. At the end of the day, we are missing key players which is why we're losing, nothing to do with Abramovic, Ancelotti or anyone off the pitch.
We scored 6 in our first 2 games this season - guess what, those were the last two games Lampard played in. Since then we have been pretty damn average, even when we've won. The only other times that we scored more than 2 were against Blackpool, Zilina away and Spartak...none of them were top opposition and we didnt play particularly well in any of those matches anyway. The media often get lazy and praise our football, cuz we usually find a way to win, but we have been playing poorly since the Stoke game (way back in August). We have been grinding out results in situations where we were obliterating teams last year. And now with the recent spate of injuries/suspensions, our lack of depth is exposed.
Give us back Essien and Lampard and we are good to go :rotfl:
Ok, Boss, I hear yuh. I hope yuh right because me eh like de way tings goin' right now at all. :beermug:
Post by: sammy on November 28, 2010, 06:34:13 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
Maybe the control was all his until recently. What if the powers-that-be only recently started meddlin' in the man business. It's poosible that that might be the case. I dunno, but it seems like Jose mighta went thru the same thing because wasn't the word out that it was Abramovic that was pushing for Shevchenko and that was one of the major issues that led to Jose's departure?
All dis talk about loss of control etc is sh!t. Italian managers are used to operating alongside technical directors who run the business side of things. At the end of the day, we are missing key players which is why we're losing, nothing to do with Abramovic, Ancelotti or anyone off the pitch.
We scored 6 in our first 2 games this season - guess what, those were the last two games Lampard played in. Since then we have been pretty damn average, even when we've won. The only other times that we scored more than 2 were against Blackpool, Zilina away and Spartak...none of them were top opposition and we didnt play particularly well in any of those matches anyway. The media often get lazy and praise our football, cuz we usually find a way to win, but we have been playing poorly since the Stoke game (way back in August). We have been grinding out results in situations where we were obliterating teams last year. And now with the recent spate of injuries/suspensions, our lack of depth is exposed.
Give us back Essien and Lampard and we are good to go
allyuh play a whole season without essien.
Post by: Blue on November 28, 2010, 06:41:31 PM
Ancelotti: I'm not in full control at Chelsea
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/212829/-Carlo-Ancelotti-Chelsea-manager-feeling-the-strain
Yuh start tuh lose matches and all of a sudden yuh not in full control ? ...not saying that he's not telling the truth but that sounds like passing the buck. When yuh on top, we eh hearing nothing about the system and yuh not giving all the praise to whom ever is in control, now yuh struggling, yuh not in charge and it's someone else's fault.
:-\
Maybe the control was all his until recently. What if the powers-that-be only recently started meddlin' in the man business. It's poosible that that might be the case. I dunno, but it seems like Jose mighta went thru the same thing because wasn't the word out that it was Abramovic that was pushing for Shevchenko and that was one of the major issues that led to Jose's departure?
All dis talk about loss of control etc is sh!t. Italian managers are used to operating alongside technical directors who run the business side of things. At the end of the day, we are missing key players which is why we're losing, nothing to do with Abramovic, Ancelotti or anyone off the pitch.
We scored 6 in our first 2 games this season - guess what, those were the last two games Lampard played in. Since then we have been pretty damn average, even when we've won. The only other times that we scored more than 2 were against Blackpool, Zilina away and Spartak...none of them were top opposition and we didnt play particularly well in any of those matches anyway. The media often get lazy and praise our football, cuz we usually find a way to win, but we have been playing poorly since the Stoke game (way back in August). We have been grinding out results in situations where we were obliterating teams last year. And now with the recent spate of injuries/suspensions, our lack of depth is exposed.
Give us back Essien and Lampard and we are good to go
allyuh play a whole season without essien.
half a season, and we had Lampard, Terry and a malaria-free Drogba to compensate, as well as Ballack, Deco and Belletti for good measure.
Post by: Bitter on December 04, 2010, 10:55:37 AM
Post by: D.H.W on December 04, 2010, 10:57:01 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on December 04, 2010, 11:00:27 AM
Post by: lefty on December 04, 2010, 11:02:50 AM
3rd!
dais what does happen when you try to fix pot dat tastin good.................chelsea doin' it to deyself again :-\
Post by: Observer on December 04, 2010, 11:06:34 AM
3rd!
dais what does happen when you try to fix pot dat tastin good.................chelsea doin' it to deyself again :-\
Ent! too much meddling with the team froby the dam owner ;D
Don't blame Ancelotti at all!
Post by: giggsy11 on December 04, 2010, 11:07:34 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:07:41 AM
Post by: lefty on December 04, 2010, 11:12:12 AM
3rd!
dais what does happen when you try to fix pot dat tastin good.................chelsea doin' it to deyself again :-\
Ent! too much meddling with the team froby the dam owner ;D
Don't blame Ancelotti at all!
boy dat does be ah collective calamity ah missteps an' catspraddles..............alyuh pay closer attention to d prem longer dan me ...I can assure you, so yuh cyar say yuh doh notice dat trend
Post by: giggsy11 on December 04, 2010, 11:16:06 AM
Post by: lefty on December 04, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
Actually I think Chelski's players like Anelka, Malouda, Drogba, Cole the men who were driving the team and creating the goals early on all lost form. They lost form and Chelski lack the depth to change things up and to deal with injuries. So men get stale and probably tired but who dey have dey can tro on that will make a difference; only a bunch of :loser:s! This has nothing to do with the changes going on off the field during the season. It is basically not improving the depth during the off season!
I can agree with you about the team's depth or lack thereof, but there is enough evidence dat issues not necessarily central to dis team does effect it negatively....................yuh remember last season blurp and attendant slump..remember wha was goin on around den.....................I get d feelin dat Chelsea is ah eeerr perhaps unhealthy mix of personal and professional ties..............dem does jus feel like ah disfunctional family to me............somehow
Post by: giggsy11 on December 04, 2010, 11:33:24 AM
Actually I think Chelski's players like Anelka, Malouda, Drogba, Cole the men who were driving the team and creating the goals early on all lost form. They lost form and Chelski lack the depth to change things up and to deal with injuries. So men get stale and probably tired but who dey have dey can tro on that will make a difference; only a bunch of :loser:s! This has nothing to do with the changes going on off the field during the season. It is basically not improving the depth during the off season!
I can agree with you about the team's depth or lack thereof, but there is enough evidence dat issues not necessarily central to dis team does effect it negatively....................yuh remember last season blurp and attendant slump..remember wha was goin on around den.....................I get d feelin dat Chelsea is ah eeerr perhaps unhealthy mix of personal and professional ties..............dem does jus feel like ah disfunctional family to me............somehow
Chelski are dysfunctional everything that went on last year dey still won the league and fa cup. So this year whatever goes on cannot be blamed for the bad results!
Post by: dinho on December 04, 2010, 12:44:19 PM
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Post by: sammy on December 04, 2010, 02:56:16 PM
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Post by: Blue on December 05, 2010, 05:37:40 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2010, 03:15:42 PM
Lamps or bust. We have no goals coming from midfield. The team was booed off at the final whistle yesterday 4 the lack of energy in the performance.
dize arright (you was boing, too?) we shall recover from this. Rough patch. Small ting.
Post by: Blue on December 05, 2010, 03:28:38 PM
Lamps or bust. We have no goals coming from midfield. The team was booed off at the final whistle yesterday 4 the lack of energy in the performance.
dize arright (you was boing, too?) we shall recover from this. Rough patch. Small ting.
Lol, no, I doh get caught up in all dat drama.
Besides we werent awful yesterday, just ok...Everton were decent and deserved a draw
Positives - Drogba looked sharp, as did Jon Terry. Another nice touch - at full time, when the fans were booing and most of the players were retreating to the dressing room, Drogba stayed out, went over to the side of the pitch and had a chat with some of the fans.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2010, 03:41:27 PM
Lamps or bust. We have no goals coming from midfield. The team was booed off at the final whistle yesterday 4 the lack of energy in the performance.
dize arright (you was boing, too?) we shall recover from this. Rough patch. Small ting.
Lol, no, I doh get caught up in all dat drama.
Besides we werent awful yesterday, just ok...Everton were decent and deserved a draw
Positives - Drogba looked sharp, as did Jon Terry. Another nice touch - at full time, when the fans were booing and most of the players were retreating to the dressing room, Drogba stayed out, went over to the side of the pitch and had a chat with some of the fans.
Ryan, man, Drogs might be a drama queen sometimes, (he really tone it down alot, thankfully) but yuh cyah help but to likede man boy. Dat was a class move on his part. .....besides all the other things he does, off the field. :beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 06, 2010, 09:37:48 AM
Lamps or bust. We have no goals coming from midfield. The team was booed off at the final whistle yesterday 4 the lack of energy in the performance.
People seem like they cah understand that the absense of FL coincides almost perfectly with the lack of goal scoring punch. Man talkin all kinda shit bout who lost form when the fact is the midfield threat is gone completely without him there. If Benayoun was healthy he might add something but we have no one else currently that can pick up the slack from Lampards position. On another note I hope in time to come Ramirez proves worthy of his pricetag because he useless right now.
All de haters could talk dey talk right now but I eh worried we will get thru thsi patch. Sammy Ballack woulda really come een handy right now in troot oui!
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2010, 11:29:55 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 11:32:20 AM
Chelsea midfield all over the place. Essien bun since the 60 min. way below match fitness. he can't get back behind the ball and he can't support forward. Ramirez overworked because of it. They losing the Midfield battle
I think Ramires from Toco not Brazil.
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2010, 11:56:15 AM
On another note Anelka real pull stones today.
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 11:57:50 AM
Not the best football game technically, many mistakes, but dam it was exciting.
On another note Anelka real pull stones today.
He played?
Post by: grimm01 on December 12, 2010, 11:58:01 AM
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Post by: chelsealife on December 12, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
Post by: Bourbon on December 20, 2010, 11:09:43 AM
Chelsea invited fresh controversy by postponing today’s titanic Premier League match with Manchester United more than 24 hours before kick off.
While clubs across the country, from Sunderland to Exeter, managed to stage matches in the Premier League and Championship on Saturday afternoon, Chelsea informed United officials before lunchtime yesterday that the most eagerly-anticipated game of the season would not be played.
Incredibly, Chelsea justified their decision, delivered with unusual haste, by claiming the game had to be called off ‘following consultation with police and the local authority’.
A brief statement on the club’s website read: ‘There has been heavy snow in London on Saturday.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1339878/Why-Chelsea-v-Manchester-United-called--Ipswich-managed-beat-freezing-conditions.html#ixzz18fm0uuju
Post by: sammy on December 20, 2010, 11:56:27 AM
depending on weather to save them.
Post by: lefty on December 20, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
Post by: Bakes on December 20, 2010, 12:55:20 PM
Nothing to see here folks.
Post by: Bourbon on December 20, 2010, 02:54:13 PM
7 EPL matches were called off over the weekend due to the weather, including all three London games.
Nothing to see here folks.
While true...this:
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Across London, Arsenal did not postpone yesterday’s match with Stoke until less than three hours before the game.
An Arsenal statement read: ‘Further to a huge deluge of snow in North London, starting over the Emirates Stadium at 11.38am, match referee Lee Mason made the decision at 12.07pm to postpone today’s match. Approximately three inches of snow fell over this half-hour period and there continues to be heavy snowfall with no apparent let-up.’
is different from this:
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Chelsea invited fresh controversy by postponing today’s titanic Premier League match with Manchester United more than 24 hours before kick off.
Especially when yuh consider this:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/19/article-0-0C89D125000005DC-684_634x422.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1340059/Chelsea-v-Manchester-United-postponed-despite-lack-snow.html
While de logistical issue is one deserving of consideration......it STILL kinda strange that a full 27 hours prior to de game dey so eager to postpone it.
Post by: elan on December 20, 2010, 02:58:14 PM
Post by: Bakes on December 20, 2010, 03:06:55 PM
7 EPL matches were called off over the weekend due to the weather, including all three London games.
Nothing to see here folks.
While true...this:QuoteAcross London, Arsenal did not postpone yesterday’s match with Stoke until less than three hours before the game.
An Arsenal statement read: ‘Further to a huge deluge of snow in North London, starting over the Emirates Stadium at 11.38am, match referee Lee Mason made the decision at 12.07pm to postpone today’s match. Approximately three inches of snow fell over this half-hour period and there continues to be heavy snowfall with no apparent let-up.’
is different from this:QuoteChelsea invited fresh controversy by postponing today’s titanic Premier League match with Manchester United more than 24 hours before kick off.
Especially when yuh consider this:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/19/article-0-0C89D125000005DC-684_634x422.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1340059/Chelsea-v-Manchester-United-postponed-despite-lack-snow.html
While de logistical issue is one deserving of consideration......it STILL kinda strange that a full 27 hours prior to de game dey so eager to postpone it.
Reminiscent of Rowley's "cloud" criticism.
Streets might look clear, but ice on the roads is no joke. Not everybody know how to drive in bad weather. Last Thursday we get ketch with literally just a dusting of snow, yet it ketch so many people by surprise (at at the height of rush hour at that) that it cause one setta accident. A drive that normally takes me 10 mins tops take an hour and a half. I see three skinny chinee fellas trying to push ah 750 out ah embankment... is like de driver didn't understand the implications of RWD in snow or sumting.
I say all this to underscore the point that with thousands of fans converging on the area, many in varied states of sobriety... cancelling the match may indeed have been a prudent thing to do. Besides, like Elan says... I doubt it's entirely Chelsea's (or any club's) call to make.
Post by: Bourbon on December 20, 2010, 03:08:16 PM
That does not mean the field is not frozen or water logged from the melting snow. Who knows. Is it up to the club or the FA to call matches off?
Nope.....steam heated pitch. Pitch was fine.
Apparently it not up to the club.......was more a HSE concern. Yet rugby games went on...shoppers etc.
Buh no scene. I sure if de reverse did happen yuh woulda hear all sorts of tings. Even doh i could see the logic in giving traveling fans advance warning.....27 hours? Arsenal game was only canceled 3 hours before.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 21, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
That does not mean the field is not frozen or water logged from the melting snow. Who knows. Is it up to the club or the FA to call matches off?
Nope.....steam heated pitch. Pitch was fine.
Apparently it not up to the club.......was more a HSE concern. Yet rugby games went on...shoppers etc.
Buh no scene. I sure if de reverse did happen yuh woulda hear all sorts of tings. Even doh i could see the logic in giving traveling fans advance warning.....27 hours? Arsenal game was only canceled 3 hours before.
so f**kin what?!! Allyuh cocksuckaz does be sittin on pins and needles fuh chelsea aought?! Maybe the conditions in and around the emirates appeared more promising? Who de frig knows. Either way it's not the club sole decision so shut allyuh c0nt wid dem asshole talk aready nah. I doh think it have a single chelsea fan even when we not lookin so hot scared to face any big team. So we was equally disappointed to not see the Blues go out and right de ship against friggin Man-eco-U
Post by: Blue on December 21, 2010, 03:53:59 PM
That does not mean the field is not frozen or water logged from the melting snow. Who knows. Is it up to the club or the FA to call matches off?
Nope.....steam heated pitch. Pitch was fine.
Apparently it not up to the club.......was more a HSE concern. Yet rugby games went on...shoppers etc.
Buh no scene. I sure if de reverse did happen yuh woulda hear all sorts of tings. Even doh i could see the logic in giving traveling fans advance warning.....27 hours? Arsenal game was only canceled 3 hours before.
so f**kin what?!! Allyuh cocksuckaz does be sittin on pins and needles fuh chelsea aought?! Maybe the conditions in and around the emirates appeared more promising? Who de frig knows. Either way it's not the club sole decision so shut allyuh c0nt wid dem asshole talk aready nah. I doh think it have a single chelsea fan even when we not lookin so hot scared to face any big team. So we was equally disappointed to not see the Blues go out and right de ship against friggin Man-eco-U
Folks, as a man who was in central London on Saturday...the game(s) were called off because of blizzard conditions that started around midday Saturday and continued for about 90 minutes. When the smoke cleared, London transport was pretty much intact (seeing as the main form of public tranport is underground).
However street conditions were poor -this is why the arsenal game would have been cancelled...you cant have 60,000 people slipping and sliding on their way into the stadium.
The reason why the Chelsea match was cancelled would have actually have been to prevent Man U fans trying to travel down to London...cross country travelling conditions were treacherous. Chelsea fans would have had few problems getting to the game.
In any event, the decision would have been taken on the advice of the police (i.e. - Chelsea had little or no say), it would certainly not have been the club's choice to cancel such a big game.
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:14:28 PM
Post by: AirMan on December 27, 2010, 03:15:41 PM
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: allyuh Chelsea fans have no shame ..Arsenal making ah mess out of allyuh
We here doh, we eh hiding.
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 27, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: Jay10 on December 27, 2010, 03:39:15 PM
Comeback might be too late. Chelsea went to sleep at start of second half. Something ain't right with that team. First team coach sacking?
probably that...
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
Comeback might be too late. Chelsea went to sleep at start of second half. Something ain't right with that team. First team coach sacking?
God doh like ugly football management.
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:56:52 PM
Everyone talking about Transfers, where do we need players? We have a very good squad. I think since the firing the mood in the camp been a somber one.
ive been out of the loop for a while due to exams/projects etc? who got fired? bring me up to date please
Post by: lefty on December 27, 2010, 04:11:42 PM
Everyone talking about Transfers, where do we need players? We have a very good squad. I think since the firing the mood in the camp been a somber one.
ive been out of the loop for a while due to exams/projects etc? who got fired? bring me up to date please
Ray Wilkins, assistant coach, often referred to as Mr. Chelsea, get fired while overseeing ah reserve game, "jus so...jus so" to use d trini vernacular everybody was was :o and apparently :( or maybe >:( by dat and we haven't recovered since. as bakes say god doh like ugly as ah chelsea fan ah have to agree
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 27, 2010, 04:49:30 PM
Everyone talking about Transfers, where do we need players? We have a very good squad. I think since the firing the mood in the camp been a somber one.
ive been out of the loop for a while due to exams/projects etc? who got fired? bring me up to date please
Ray Wilkins, assistant coach, often referred to as Mr. Chelsea, get fired while overseeing ah reserve game, "jus so...jus so" to use d trini vernacular everybody was was :o and apparently :( or maybe >:( by dat and we haven't recovered since. as bakes say god doh like ugly as ah chelsea fan ah have to agree
Whatever the problem is behind the scenes at the club, it seems to be bigger than Ancelotti and more than he can handle right now. He DOES, however, need to grab some of his players by the scruff of they neck and let them know who they really supposed to be playin' for and that is the fans. Men rel focusing on Ramires and not giving him the same leway as everybody else received. The only players that I can remember (from this bunch) that came in on their first season with the club and played close to flawlessly were: Petr Cech, Ricardo Carvalho, Ashley Cole and Michael Essien. Everybody else had to take some time to adjust and everybody else, from Drogba to Anelka, to Mikel, to Malouda, Bosingwa and Ivanovic, all had to get settled at the club. Ramires should be no different. The way I see men gettin' on he case on here I would swear that he is the root of all we problems right now and nothing could be further from the truth. Drogba, Anelka, Malouda and Kalou cyah score to save their lives right now. We missing Alex in the back, Ashley Cole has been making some bad errors on the left lately and the Ferreira/Bosingwa connection on the right is not doing much for us at all. That ball that Malouda gave away today, effectively gifting arsenal a cruciaal goal....is not the first time he lost the ball so easy. Chelsea watching these sides come at us aggressively and still playing the ball casual casual and showing the ball....yuh must get pick-pocket! WDF?! Anyhow....it lookin' too late for this season because all dem side 'fraid manu (and does play dem dat way) and I doh see us makin' up 9 points in the next 4 months. (and Barca eh lettin' NOBODY win de Champions' League this year)....so....I will ride it out for the rest of the season and hope we remain in CL contention for next year.
Post by: injunchile on December 27, 2010, 06:37:54 PM
Post by: dumpalewie on December 27, 2010, 07:12:06 PM
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 07:18:41 PM
Simply put.....Chelsea is shit!
take yuh time!
Post by: RehanaOmardeenfan on December 27, 2010, 08:21:56 PM
That third goal was the straw that broke de camel back.
Its all over for them this season.
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 27, 2010, 08:30:38 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 27, 2010, 08:58:59 PM
why was he subbed at half time if he wasn't injured??
just saying
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 09:12:38 PM
i bet allyuh feel yuh had this one in the bag eh? :rotfl:
lol
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 27, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
oh yeah didnt someone say obi kiel was better than song???
why was he subbed at half time if he wasn't injured??
just saying
I said it and yes, he STILL is better than song. When song can play an equally vital role for Cameroun that Mikel plays for Nigeria (and ress the kinda beat that Mikel put on Kenwyne Jones) you come talk him up. Until then hush yuh cyat and keep yuh song. arsenal STILL eh winnin' shit this season so doh crow too loud yet.
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 28, 2010, 09:49:18 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 09:55:23 AM
Ah yes the classlessness yet again sown by QRC's finest
Three cheers fuh QRC!
Post by: Daft Trini on December 28, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
Post by: sammy on December 28, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
[/b]oh yeah didnt someone say obi kiel was better than song???
why was he subbed at half time if he wasn't injured??
just saying
I said it and yes, he STILL is better than song. When song can play an equally vital role for Cameroun that Mikel plays for Nigeria (and ress the kinda beat that Mikel put on Kenwyne Jones) you come talk him up. Until then hush yuh cyat and keep yuh song. arsenal STILL eh winnin' shit this season so doh crow too loud yet.
u backing utd now? :devil:
Post by: sammy on December 28, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
Ah yes the classlessness yet again sown by QRC's finest
aye...watch yuhself :shameonyou:
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 12:39:43 PM
walkin like a champion, talkin like a champion, playin like ah jamette :rotfl: priceless :devil:
HHHHHHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
[/b]oh yeah didnt someone say obi kiel was better than song???
why was he subbed at half time if he wasn't injured??
just saying
I said it and yes, he STILL is better than song. When song can play an equally vital role for Cameroun that Mikel plays for Nigeria (and ress the kinda beat that Mikel put on Kenwyne Jones) you come talk him up. Until then hush yuh cyat and keep yuh song. arsenal STILL eh winnin' shit this season so doh crow too loud yet.
u backing utd now? :devil:
:rotfl: See how allyuh like ting?! I will NEVER back utd! NEVER!....I just maintaining what I was tellin' a arsenal fan on another thread (ah cyah remember who it is....might be stungun self) dat dey side eh winnin' nutting dis season.
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 28, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Ah yes the classlessness yet again sown by QRC's finest
aye...watch yuhself :shameonyou:
i did not stutter
Post by: jusbless on December 29, 2010, 01:18:01 PM
oh yeah didnt someone say obi kiel was better than song???
why was he subbed at half time if he wasn't injured??
just saying
TEAM NEWS: CHELSEA V BOLTON WANDERERS
Posted on: Wed 29 Dec 2010
Nicolas Anelka returns to team following his Arsenal absence. Salomon Kalou makes way.
With John Mikel Obi injured, Ramires joins Frank Lampard and Michael Essien in midfield and Jose Boswinga replaces Paulo Ferreira as Carlo Ancelotti rotates his team as much as possible.
Bolton make two changes. Sam Ricketts replaces Gretar Steinsson at right-back and Rodrigo Moreno comes in on the right of midfield in place of Chung-Yong Lee who is at the Asia Cup.
The Trotters name only six substitutes.
The Chelsea team is:
1 Petr Cech
17 Jose Bosingwa
2 Branislav Ivanovic
26 John Terry (c)
3 Ashley Cole
7 Ramires
5 Michael Essien
8 Frank Lampard
39 Nicolas Anelka
11 Didier Drogba
15 Florent Malouda
Subs: 22 Ross Turnbull, 19 Paulo Ferreira, 43 Jeffrey Bruma, 38 Patrick van Aanholt, 46 Josh McEachran, 44 Gael Kakuta, 21 Salomon Kalou.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
Ancelotti celebrate like if he just won the league yes... what a joke of a club
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 29, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
nice offside goal to "end" the crisis today
Ancelotti celebrate like if he just won the league yes... what a joke of a club
:rotfl: Small Mag, you rel entertaining boy, kinda like dah scene in dah Pink Panther movie where Inspector Clouseau ketch de hustler un de corner wit de monkey.....you have more verve than dah monkey boy! Yes, I agree Drogba was offside on dah goal, but I had to freeze de dam frame to see it because in real time, I could see how de linesman coulda mistake Drogs for bein' in line wit the right back. As far as the so-called hand ball non-call on JT, the ball was played with too much pace and from to close a proximity for the ref to call it. It was a hand-to-ball that JT had no clue about, and so it goes.....If we could get another 20-25 calls from such "generous" officiating the rest of the season we just might halfway catch up to manu in the "generous officiating" department. Meanwhile, we go jes' take we tree points and hush we ass. Plenty, plenty work left to do.
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2010, 06:29:23 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 29, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
Chelski look rell deperate to play against ten men with dey continued attempts with the divin and play actin tuh try and get men booked. Pathetic!
We take a page outta cronaldo book, God bless his long-gone, metro soul.
Post by: sammy on December 29, 2010, 08:51:03 PM
:rotfl:Chelski look rell deperate to play against ten men with dey continued attempts with the divin and play actin tuh try and get men booked. Pathetic!
We take a page outta cronaldo book, God bless his long-gone, metro soul.
Post by: injunchile on December 30, 2010, 07:31:58 AM
Post by: kicker on December 30, 2010, 07:17:07 PM
:rotfl: Small Mag, you rel entertaining boy, kinda like dah scene in dah Pink Panther movie where Inspector Clouseau ketch de hustler un de corner wit de monkey.....you have more verve than dah monkey boy! Yes, I agree Drogba was offside on dah goal, but I had to freeze de dam frame to see it because in real time, I could see how de linesman coulda mistake Drogs for bein' in line wit the right back. As far as the so-called hand ball non-call on JT, the ball was played with too much pace and from to close a proximity for the ref to call it. It was a hand-to-ball that JT had no clue about, and so it goes.....If we could get another 20-25 calls from such "generous" officiating the rest of the season we just might halfway catch up to manu in the "generous officiating" department. Meanwhile, we go jes' take we tree points and hush we ass. Plenty, plenty work left to do.
You'll always get that call at home.
Chelsea was not convincing but sometimes yuh need to grind out victories like that to get some belief and to get back on track....
Ramires actually played well...
Post by: elan on December 30, 2010, 08:44:15 PM
You all could argue all you want but watch the replay carefully, the defender got the timing wrong and the linesman played on rightly. I would love to hear what the lineman had to say about this.
Post by: kicker on December 30, 2010, 11:56:46 PM
Drogba was not offside. You all looking at when they freeze the play, but you cannot use that in this instance as it does not reflect what was happening and why the linesman played Drogba onside. The furthest defender dropped and as Essien played the ball he stepped forward and got the timing wrong. You cannot step up as the ball is being played and get that offside, you have to be very lucky. This is why playing the offside for much of a game (especially against a team like Chelsea with players like Lampard and Drogba on the field) is risky. The one time you get it wrong maybe the time you get punished.
You all could argue all you want but watch the replay carefully, the defender got the timing wrong and the linesman played on rightly. I would love to hear what the lineman had to say about this.
I also didn't think he was offside...like I say though, as the home side you'll get alot of those close ones. That's the game. On to the next game.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
Post by: D.H.W on January 02, 2011, 09:33:52 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:42:07 AM
like they in church still? :devil:
Marathon service;they have been in church since November!
Post by: lefty on January 02, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
like they in church still? :devil:
Marathon service;they have been in church since November!
um dis thread does reach third page even when chelsea winnin, so your point is what ???..................exactly..............alyuh ent no life ???
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 10:31:12 AM
like they in church still? :devil:
Marathon service;they have been in church since November!
um dis thread does reach third page even when chelsea winnin, so your point is what ???..................exactly..............alyuh ent no life ???
Is a running joke dred!
Post by: Blue on January 02, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
We're no longer in a title race, but we still battling. Finally we scored some goals from open play. When we equalised it was madness....and when we went ahead it was utter, utter pandemonium...we didn't even celebrate like that for the title last season. Then queue some $h!tty defending for the Villa equaliser, throwing away all that hard work...gutted. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted after that. Definitely worth the admission fee.
P.S. - Paulo Ferreira - please leave.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 11:25:17 AM
Flew back to London today, dropped my bags and headed straight down to Stamford Bridge...it was emotional.
We're no longer in a title race, but we still battling. Finally we scored some goals from open play. When we equalised it was madness....and when we went ahead it was utter, utter pandemonium...we didn't even celebrate like that for the title last season. Then queue some $h!tty defending for the Villa equaliser, throwing away all that hard work...gutted. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted after that. Definitely worth the admission fee.
P.S. - Paulo Ferreira - please leave.
nice attempt at a mind game... trust me I will still be watching your result vs Arsenal or City's result.. the good thing with Arsenal and City , you know they are capable of blowing shit.. Arsenal are a team that will lose to Stoke and City are legendary f**k ups... Chelsea are United's greatest threat this season... the further Chelsea are the better I feel... If Chelsea lose 1 in their next 3 prem games I think that's that though
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 11:33:55 AM
Flew back to London today, dropped my bags and headed straight down to Stamford Bridge...it was emotional.
We're no longer in a title race, but we still battling. Finally we scored some goals from open play. When we equalised it was madness....and when we went ahead it was utter, utter pandemonium...we didn't even celebrate like that for the title last season. Then queue some $h!tty defending for the Villa equaliser, throwing away all that hard work...gutted. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted after that. Definitely worth the admission fee.
P.S. - Paulo Ferreira - please leave.
After the clearance sale seeing Ballack and Joe Cole being shown the door, I was SURE he was one of the sale items, too. The man stealin' money from Chelsea and he HAS to out the door in May! If Anelka's indifference continues, I'm sorry but he will have to go, too......and Kalou really startin' to get on meh nerves now. The man does come on and have so much skill and so little brain.....or balance! Why TF he always ending up on the ground so?!
Flew back to London today, dropped my bags and headed straight down to Stamford Bridge...it was emotional.
We're no longer in a title race, but we still battling. Finally we scored some goals from open play. When we equalised it was madness....and when we went ahead it was utter, utter pandemonium...we didn't even celebrate like that for the title last season. Then queue some $h!tty defending for the Villa equaliser, throwing away all that hard work...gutted. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted after that. Definitely worth the admission fee.
P.S. - Paulo Ferreira - please leave.
nice attempt at a mind game... trust me I will still be watching your result vs Arsenal or City's result.. the good thing with Arsenal and City , you know they are capable of blowing shit.. Arsenal are a team that will lose to Stoke and City are legendary f**k ups... Chelsea are United's greatest threat this season... the further Chelsea are the better I feel... If Chelsea lose 1 in their next 3 prem games I think that's that though
A so called shit side is allyuh biggest threat? Who really tryin' to play mind games here? ::)
Post by: elan on January 02, 2011, 12:52:44 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 01:17:20 PM
Flew back to London today, dropped my bags and headed straight down to Stamford Bridge...it was emotional.
We're no longer in a title race, but we still battling. Finally we scored some goals from open play. When we equalised it was madness....and when we went ahead it was utter, utter pandemonium...we didn't even celebrate like that for the title last season. Then queue some $h!tty defending for the Villa equaliser, throwing away all that hard work...gutted. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted after that. Definitely worth the admission fee.
P.S. - Paulo Ferreira - please leave.
After the clearance sale seeing Ballack and Joe Cole being shown the door, I was SURE he was one of the sale items, too. The man stealin' money from Chelsea and he HAS to out the door in May! If Anelka's indifference continues, I'm sorry but he will have to go, too......and Kalou really startin' to get on meh nerves now. The man does come on and have so much skill and so little brain.....or balance! Why TF he always ending up on the ground so?!Flew back to London today, dropped my bags and headed straight down to Stamford Bridge...it was emotional.
We're no longer in a title race, but we still battling. Finally we scored some goals from open play. When we equalised it was madness....and when we went ahead it was utter, utter pandemonium...we didn't even celebrate like that for the title last season. Then queue some $h!tty defending for the Villa equaliser, throwing away all that hard work...gutted. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted after that. Definitely worth the admission fee.
P.S. - Paulo Ferreira - please leave.
nice attempt at a mind game... trust me I will still be watching your result vs Arsenal or City's result.. the good thing with Arsenal and City , you know they are capable of blowing shit.. Arsenal are a team that will lose to Stoke and City are legendary f**k ups... Chelsea are United's greatest threat this season... the further Chelsea are the better I feel... If Chelsea lose 1 in their next 3 prem games I think that's that though
A so called shit side is allyuh biggest threat? Who really tryin' to play mind games here? ::)
As I said..I'm Fergie..your Rafa... FACT
Post by: Blue on January 10, 2011, 03:17:41 PM
So 7-0 vs Ipswich. Not getting carried away given how poor Ipswich were, but there were some real positives from this game:
- The energy/fluency is back. Regardless of the opposition, Chelsea ran a hell of a lot more than the last 10 games or so, a marked contrast to the workmanlike, pensive football they've been playing recently. There was much more creative passing and bursts of pace down the wings than we've seen for ages.
- Alot of that credit goes to Lampard who is returning to his best. He was my man of the match yesterday and sprayed accurate passes relentlessly throughout the game.
- Ramires was actually decent for a change. To be fair to him, this is the type of game he should be blooded in, not the Arsenals and Man Citys.
- Josh McEachran was awesome. Up until this point I thought he was overhyped, but he was terrific yesterday in the DM role as a ball winner and even more impressively as a ball retainer and a pass selector. He didnt seem to have any fear and was probably the 2nd best player on the pitch after Lampard. If it weren't for his size, I would happily have him playing in the Prem on a regular basis.
-Van Aanholt - another good showing, he will be as good as Ashley Cole one day.
Post by: Flex on January 12, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
(AFP) Sunday 9 January 2011
Frank Lampard and Daniel Sturridge both scored twice as FA Cup holders Chelsea cruised to 7-0 rout of Championship outfit Ipswich Town to set up a fourth round tie away to Everton.
Salomon Kalou, Nicolas Anelka and an own goal from Carlos Edwards also made the scoresheet as Carlo Ancelotti's side recorded a confidence-boosting win at Stamford Bridge that eased the pressure on the troubled manager.
And while a comfortable Chelsea victory was always the expected outcome, the way in which his side began their bid to win the trophy for a third successive season will provide encouragement for the London club's Italian manager.
Ancelotti had conceded in the build up to the game that it would have come as no surprise if he had lost his job following the club's recent run of results which have left Premier League champions Chelsea fifth in the table and nine points behind leaders Manchester United.
Chelsea dominated possession early on without looking truly convincing and appeared vulnerable to Ispwich's occasional foray forward. But once Kalou and Sturridge had broken the visitors' defences twice in the 33rd minute, the result was never in doubt.
It was hardly surprising Ipswich folded so easily. They arrived at Stamford Bridge languishing in 19th place in the second tier and led by Ian McParland, the caretaker-manager appointed following last week's dismissal of Roy Keane.
Paul Jewell, the former Wigan Athletic manager, is expected to be appointed as Keane's full-time replacement next week and his first job will be to help his players overcome this heavy defeat.
Ancelotti, meanwhile, will be working overtime to ensure Chelsea maintain some of the good habits they rediscovered in this game when they return to Premier League action against Blackburn Rovers next week.
Those preparations would have been much more testing had Petr Cech not twice come to his side's rescue early on. The Chelsea goalkeeper reacted bravely to divert David Norris's low cross off the toe of Connor Wickham in the 17th minute and then was forced to beat away Jason Scotland's powerful shot five minutes later.
At that point it looked as though Chelsea might be in for a troublesome afternoon but they got the break they needed in the 33rd minute when Anelka's shot was half-saved by Marton Fulop and Kalou raced in to help the ball over the line as it dribbled towards the goal.
Chelsea were two up within seconds when Sturridge turned in Jose Bosingwa's near-post cross. There was worse to come for Ipswich in the 41st minute when Norris fouled John Terry, allowing Lampard to whip over a free kick which was headed into his own net by Edwards.
From then on, it was simply a case of how many more Chelsea could score in the second period as their self-belief came flooding back. Within minutes of the restart, Anelka drilled home a fourth goal with a low shot after exchanging crosses with Sturridge. Sturridge then claimed his second in the 53rd minute with an excellent curled shot that looped over Fulop from the angle of the penalty area.
Lampard then completed the scoring with two goals in as many minutes, the first a powerful 78th minute drive from 16 yards out, followed by a close range tap-in after good work by Branislav Ivanovic.
Post by: Blue on January 15, 2011, 12:56:22 PM
We started very, very well, but just couldnt break through - Ramires' shot against the crossbar in de first few minutes summed up our luck recently. As the game went on, the crowd and the players got increasingly nervous and it looked as if the bad spell was gonna continue. Finally our luck changed - from a scrappy corner Ivanovic squeezed in an ugly shot. The relief was clear and it was followed up not too long after by another scrappy Anelka goal. That was the kind of victory we needed.
Positives:
Ramires - he was excellent today, Man of the Match. His hustling was great as always, but his tackling and passing were vastly improved. He really looked like a top player today and the crowd are starting to get behind him. His problem often seemed to be that he was trying to hard, but he was much more composed today and chose his passes wisely. Offensively he will never be a Lampard, but based on his overally game he looked like a new Essien (unlike the real Essien, who continues to look short of confidence). If he could play every game like today I would definitely have him start over Mikel.
McEachran - only had a 15 minute cameo at the end, but did not put a foot wrong. This kid is great. Constantly wants the ball and never loses it. You can tell how much confidence the other players have in him because he is usually their first option to pass to when he is nearby, which is very unusual for such a young player (contrast that with Ramires who is usually given the ball as a last resort). He will definitely be a key player for England in the next World Cup (from the man who first told you about Jack Wilshere, check the Arsenal thread if yuh tink I lying ;D)
Negatives:
Drogba - he seemed to be trying, but his running looked very laboured, as if he is carrying an injury or has simply lost a step.
Malouda -he got better as the game went along, particularly after we went ahead but he is not making the marauding runs he used to anymore. His play is too slow, too methodical for a winger....he's playing like Anelka. One Anelka is frustrating enough.
Post by: doc on January 23, 2011, 07:13:37 AM
Post by: sammy on January 23, 2011, 09:43:05 AM
Ah hah to give this thread a little love and bring it back on page 1, since the faithful seem to have abandoned it ;D
Doh worry next year u go see the thread name change to City Forever :devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 24, 2011, 12:33:31 AM
Post by: Blue on January 24, 2011, 12:59:55 AM
Post by: lefty on January 24, 2011, 05:23:35 AM
ALL allyuh haters could hul allyuh arse!
why allyuh takin dem on, team was gettin 6 an' 7 an' dis thread on page 3 an' 4 same way............... d manu thread does go ectoplasmic whenever dem fair weather muddafuuckas losin.....why yuh stressin ::)
Post by: kicker on January 24, 2011, 08:09:20 AM
Ramires - he was excellent today, Man of the Match.
Glad to hear that- I want him to do well at Chelsea- He can definitely play but he's inconsistent...over the 90 minutes and over a spell of games- very inconsistent. I thought the same of him for Brazil- you could never tell which Ramires would show up. Hopefully he can get some belief and momentum.
Post by: D.H.W on January 24, 2011, 08:30:13 AM
ALL allyuh haters could hul allyuh arse!
why allyuh takin dem on, team was gettin 6 an' 7 an' dis thread on page 3 an' 4 same way............... d manu thread does go ectoplasmic whenever dem fair weather muddafuuckas losin.....why yuh stressin ::)
aaaaaaahahahahaha :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: lefty on January 24, 2011, 09:00:32 AM
ALL allyuh haters could hul allyuh arse!
why allyuh takin dem on, team was gettin 6 an' 7 an' dis thread on page 3 an' 4 same way............... d manu thread does go ectoplasmic whenever dem fair weather muddafuuckas losin.....why yuh stressin ::)
aaaaaaahahahahaha :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
look who, Mr. Sabbatical himself..............wais d good boss :)
Post by: Blue on January 24, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
David Luiz is about to sign for us, the thread will heat up then ;D
Deal appears to be agreed, his work permit hearing is set for Wednesday :beermug:
Post by: Blue on January 24, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
Post by: elan on January 24, 2011, 02:28:34 PM
Post by: Blue on January 24, 2011, 03:34:06 PM
Finally beginning to prove his worth....nothing spectacular, but that goal was Lampard-esque in the way he trailed the attack into the box....and great 2 see the other players mobbing him after the goal :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 24, 2011, 05:45:27 PM
ALL allyuh haters could hul allyuh arse!
why allyuh takin dem on, team was gettin 6 an' 7 an' dis thread on page 3 an' 4 same way............... d manu thread does go ectoplasmic whenever dem fair weather muddafuuckas losin.....why yuh stressin ::)
Yuh right boy, Lefty, yuh right. :beermug:
Post by: Blue on January 25, 2011, 02:53:18 PM
Abrahamovic is gettin fedup of dis sh!t, who de eff is Man City? :challenge:
Post by: FF on January 25, 2011, 03:56:50 PM
I now see this goal... wha kinda matrix jedi kung fu goal is this... :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/v/soEeWQ5rzQ0&hl
Post by: Peong on January 25, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
Personally I find it takes away from the game. There's no glory in scoring because the ball moves randomly after you hit it.
Anybody ever played Nintendo World Cup?
The "super shot" used to look just like this.
http://www.youtube.com/v/SL6tLpMFi7U
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
Yuh must have break all over the place when you see 2-0 ... then Berba with the administration of poison
;)
Post by: Blue on January 29, 2011, 12:57:57 AM
Interesting weekend ahead, will we have the same squad when the dust settles?
Post by: Observer on January 29, 2011, 08:23:23 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 29, 2011, 08:27:05 AM
Drogba for such a great player is sickening with his play acting, diving and fakeing antics
He was disgusting today with it.... at the end there was the worst.. rolling in agony as if he snapped an achilles...Everton players hesitated and 1 kicked it out.. Chelsea dont give it back and get a corner..guess who takes the f**king corner 20 seconds later
They get away today...Everton were looking good and deserved the win
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 08:50:43 AM
David Luiz is about to sign for us, the thread will heat up then ;D
Deal appears to be agreed, his work permit hearing is set for Wednesday :beermug:
But Ryan yuh have goat mout or wat? Wah happen? ;D All yuh better off stayin away from dem players owned by 2 or more parties. Never ends nice in the long run. Work the yutes in, work dem in!
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 08:56:54 AM
Post by: Blue on January 29, 2011, 02:32:48 PM
I love that Seamus Coleman for Everton-agressive, smart, some skill, brave and determined. A typical Everton player. Everton has achance in the return leg. Plus Cahil will be back.
steups, i wudda rather we lost, i really cah be bothered goin 2 watch a nex everton game....d one in december was boring enuf, as was de game today.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 02:51:57 PM
I love that Seamus Coleman for Everton-agressive, smart, some skill, brave and determined. A typical Everton player. Everton has achance in the return leg. Plus Cahil will be back.
steups, i wudda rather we lost, i really cah be bothered goin 2 watch a nex everton game....d one in december was boring enuf, as was de game today.
Do you have season tixs?
Post by: Blue on January 29, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
I love that Seamus Coleman for Everton-agressive, smart, some skill, brave and determined. A typical Everton player. Everton has achance in the return leg. Plus Cahil will be back.
steups, i wudda rather we lost, i really cah be bothered goin 2 watch a nex everton game....d one in december was boring enuf, as was de game today.
Do you have season tixs?
not yet, but in order to qualify for a season ticket I need to attend as many games as possible (it works on a loyalty points basis). and for sure real points gonna be available for dis game
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
I love that Seamus Coleman for Everton-agressive, smart, some skill, brave and determined. A typical Everton player. Everton has achance in the return leg. Plus Cahil will be back.
steups, i wudda rather we lost, i really cah be bothered goin 2 watch a nex everton game....d one in december was boring enuf, as was de game today.
Do you have season tixs?
not yet, but in order to qualify for a season ticket I need to attend as many games as possible (it works on a loyalty points basis). and for sure real points gonna be available for dis game
Gotcha! :beermug:
Post by: doublet750 on January 29, 2011, 05:40:31 PM
FOR ALL THE GOOD RUMORS ON THE BLUES CHECK OUT THE SHED IN RUMOR MILL
http://shed.chelseafc.com/shed_rumour.shtml
Post by: Blue on January 31, 2011, 01:04:30 PM
Torres - fee agreed
Abrahamovic - legend
Cant wait for Sunday, de place is gonna be live :beermug: :beermug:
Interestingly, Chelsea announced today that the club turned a profit last year for the first time since Abrahamovic took over...f**k dat :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on January 31, 2011, 05:10:46 PM
Post by: Blue on January 31, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
Post by: doublet750 on January 31, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2011, 06:45:57 PM
BOTH DEALS DONE OUT OF ROMAN POCKET MONEY....D MAN WANT SUCCESS NOWWW
not with torres :devil:
Post by: Observer on February 01, 2011, 07:21:47 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 01, 2011, 07:35:53 AM
The rich get richer. On another note. All the criticism on Ramirez, he is arguably Chelsea most consistent player for the last stretch of games. He looks like he is settling & contributing.
I couldn't understand what I thought was over criticisms of the man coming from all angle. Watching the games I see the man was getting put in tough situations due to bad passes and him receiving balls in some toough situations and the man was handling as best any player could have given the situatons and men was comin' dong rel hard on de man. I even tried to reason wit men that only a select few players (BIG players, too) were able to come in and enjoy an immediate, seamless transition to any team, let alone a team in english football, all to no avail. Now man cyah stop singin' he praises. I guess it's part of the culture now that we expect things instantaneously. Technology spoilin' we.
Post by: doublet750 on February 01, 2011, 07:39:37 AM
BOTH DEALS DONE OUT OF ROMAN POCKET MONEY....D MAN WANT SUCCESS NOWWW
not with torres :devil:
lol if he score game winners in both games against united then he serve d purpose :beermug:
Post by: Tallman on February 01, 2011, 08:03:31 AM
By Ian Cruise (talksport.co.uk)
Dwight Yorke believes Chelsea will bring out the best in £50million new boy Fernando Torres.
The Spanish superstar completed his British record switch from Liverpool to Stamford Bridge on transfer deadline day, and Yorke thinks it will be a great move for him.
The former Manchester United and Aston Villa star told the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast: “He’s got everything a centre-forward needs - pace, power, he’s good in the air and I think Chelsea will bring out the best in him.
“You can’t deny what a fantastic player he is and on his day he’s unplayable. He needed another challenge and that’s why he left Liverpool.
“He joined a club [liverpool] with a great history and that is expected to be challenging for trophies and winning Championships and being in the Champions League, but that hasn’t quite materialised.
“The expectation hasn’t quite been fulfilled and I think he got frustrated with it, along with the injuries he’s had.”
Liverpool replaced Torres with the £35m signing of Andy Carroll from Newcastle, and Yorke admits only time will tell if that represents good business for the Anfield club.
He added: “You’re talking about a young guy who’s 22 in his first full Premier League season.
“He’s done pretty well so far, but I’m sure that price tag will raise a few eyebrows. But Kenny Dalglish has been around a long time and, even though he’s not been in the game, he’s been around at Liverpool and he’s a man with a proven track record.
“He’s proved his judgement has been right in the past by signing the likes of Alan Shearer, and we’ll have to wait and see if his judgement has been right with Carroll.”
Post by: sammy on February 01, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
BOTH DEALS DONE OUT OF ROMAN POCKET MONEY....D MAN WANT SUCCESS NOWWW
not with torres :devil:
lol if he score game winners in both games against united then he serve d purpose :beermug:
steups, what make u think he not getting injured before that?
The fella injury prone jest like RVP, Owen and Hargreaves.
Post by: Sam on February 01, 2011, 12:19:11 PM
1. Cristiano Ronaldo[/b]
(Man Utd to Real Madrid, 2009, £80 million)
2. Zlatan Ibrahimovic
(Inter Milan to Barcelona, 2009, £56.5 million)
3. Kaka
(AC Milan to Real Madrid, 2009, £56 million)
4. Fernando Torres
(Liverpool to Chelsea, 2011, £50 million)
5. Zinedine Zidane
(Juventus to Real Madrid, 2001, £46.5 million)
6. Luis Figo
(Barcelona to Real Madrid, 2000, £37 million)
7. Hernan Crespo
(Parma to Lazio, 2000, £35.5 million)
8. Andy Carroll
(Newcastle to Liverpool, 2011, £35 million)
9. David Villa
(Valencia to Barcelona, 2010, £34 million)
10. Gianluigi Buffon
(Parma to Juventus, 2001, £32.6 million)
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2011, 12:42:24 PM
Post by: Blue on February 01, 2011, 01:46:16 PM
The rich get richer. On another note. All the criticism on Ramirez, he is arguably Chelsea most consistent player for the last stretch of games. He looks like he is settling & contributing.
I couldn't understand what I thought was over criticisms of the man coming from all angle. Watching the games I see the man was getting put in tough situations due to bad passes and him receiving balls in some toough situations and the man was handling as best any player could have given the situatons and men was comin' dong rel hard on de man. I even tried to reason wit men that only a select few players (BIG players, too) were able to come in and enjoy an immediate, seamless transition to any team, let alone a team in english football, all to no avail. Now man cyah stop singin' he praises. I guess it's part of the culture now that we expect things instantaneously. Technology spoilin' we.
What's interesting is that Ramires hasn't really improved technically, he's playing to his strengths. I dont think he was gettng the ball in particularly difficult situations before, he was just panicking when he got it. Now he is keeping his passes very simple, he is not holding onto the ball and he is showing the same high workrate he displayed from day one. Its encouraging, since he's obviously learning. He is pushing Mikel for a regular starting spot in the lineup which I think is great, as when he starts it pushes Essien back into the DM role in which he thrives (only Mango Chow rates Mikel, to everyone else he has maxed out his potential as an average player).
On another note, I have a feeling we will hand Sunderland a serious blowout today...hope I'm not wrong ;D
Post by: kicker on February 01, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
What's interesting is that Ramires hasn't really improved technically, he's playing to his strengths. I dont think he was gettng the ball in particularly difficult situations before, he was just panicking when he got it. Now he is keeping his passes very simple, he is not holding onto the ball and he is showing the same high workrate he displayed from day one. Its encouraging, since he's obviously learning. He is pushing Mikel for a regular starting spot in the lineup which I think is great, as when he starts it pushes Essien back into the DM role in which he thrives (only Mango Chow rates Mikel, to everyone else he has maxed out his potential as an average player).
On another note, I have a feeling we will hand Sunderland a serious blowout today...hope I'm not wrong ;D
Ramires is the same player for Brazil- i.e. very inconsistent. Sometimes he looks like quality, sometimes clueless... I agree with Mango to some extent -there were a few games where he did fine for Chelsea where I think he got some unfair criticism- which I think was based on the fumbling precedent that he set for himself in the first few games. I think his first goal in the epl set him straight, and he almost had a beauty against Everton in the FA Cup that hit the post....seems to be hitting stride though if what he shows for Brazil is any indication, doh be surprised if yuh get some more frustratingly poor performances scattered here and there.
Post by: elan on February 01, 2011, 11:57:32 PM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on February 02, 2011, 07:19:33 AM
What's interesting is that Ramires hasn't really improved technically, he's playing to his strengths. I dont think he was gettng the ball in particularly difficult situations before, he was just panicking when he got it. Now he is keeping his passes very simple, he is not holding onto the ball and he is showing the same high workrate he displayed from day one. Its encouraging, since he's obviously learning. He is pushing Mikel for a regular starting spot in the lineup which I think is great, as when he starts it pushes Essien back into the DM role in which he thrives (only Mango Chow rates Mikel, to everyone else he has maxed out his potential as an average player).
On another note, I have a feeling we will hand Sunderland a serious blowout today...hope I'm not wrong ;D
Ramires is the same player for Brazil- i.e. very inconsistent. Sometimes he looks like quality, sometimes clueless... I agree with Mango to some extent -there were a few games where he did fine for Chelsea where I think he got some unfair criticism- which I think was based on the fumbling precedent that he set for himself in the first few games. I think his first goal in the epl set him straight, and he almost had a beauty against Everton in the FA Cup that hit the post....seems to be hitting stride though if what he shows for Brazil is any indication, doh be surprised if yuh get some more frustratingly poor performances scattered here and there.
Sometimes I think fellas does be SO focused on what they want to focus on that they cyah see the forest from the trees. All during the bad spell we were going through, our entire forward line was playn' crap. Neither Drogba, Anelka, Kalou nor Malouda were taking good shots or scoring goals, Essien was not playing his best, (Lampard was hurt, so because o' dat I guess) we couldn't get a corner to get past the first defender to save we life, Bosingwa was fresh off injury and came in doin' shit, Ferreira......well, I doh need to say nutting 'bout he....even Ashley Cole was sufferin' from brain farts and Zhirkov was doin' nutting but doo-doo.. Yet, all I was seein' was men talkin' 'bout Ramires playin shyte and everybody else was beyond reproach. The man like he was supposed to change in a telephone booth and save Chelsea from their downward spiral. Ryan, boy....to call Mikel an "average player" is laughable but you entitled to your opinion.
Post by: Andre on February 03, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
L’Equipe said the Major League Soccer club wants Anelka to reunite with fellow Frenchman Thierry Henry, who will begin his second season with the Red Bulls in March.
“We will not comment on players currently under contract with other clubs,” Red Bulls spokesman Brian Tsao said.
Anelka’s brother Claude told L’Equipe the former France international has expressed an interest in moving to the United States.
Anelka, 31, was under contract with Chelsea until 2012 but was facing competition from Fernando Torres, who was sold by Liverpool to Chelsea during January’s transfer window.
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2011, 12:14:56 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 10:50:49 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 06, 2011, 10:56:03 AM
What a waste! Torres shoulda stay up in anfield....he only givin' way de ball and like he 'fraid to take on dem defenders!
LOL typical shithong fan
the man play 45 minutes in a brand new team, new formation, new pressure against a team that playing a 5-4-1 formation and locking down space and you have the audacity to say the man fail the club already
haha allyuh are the greatest... embarrassing too
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
What a waste! Torres shoulda stay up in anfield....he only givin' way de ball and like he 'fraid to take on dem defenders!
LOL typical shithong fan
the man play 45 minutes in a brand new team, new formation, new pressure against a team that playing a 5-4-1 formation and locking down space and you have the audacity to say the man fail the club already
haha allyuh are the greatest... embarrassing too
Jackass..you like the front end of a hot shit, yuh cyah WAIT to come stickin' yuh head out somebody asshole. I did that for the sole purpose of being sarcastic and givin' him the same Treatment Ramires was receiving on the thread......I guess if it not accompaanied by smileys and stick figures it would be lost on you....
Post by: dumpalewie on February 06, 2011, 12:04:17 PM
I agree with yuh Small MagWhat a waste! Torres shoulda stay up in anfield....he only givin' way de ball and like he 'fraid to take on dem defenders!
LOL typical shithong fan
the man play 45 minutes in a brand new team, new formation, new pressure against a team that playing a 5-4-1 formation and locking down space and you have the audacity to say the man fail the club already
haha allyuh are the greatest... embarrassing too
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 06, 2011, 12:08:12 PM
david luiz - money well spent.
torres - seemed nervous. give him time
Post by: sammy on February 06, 2011, 12:11:58 PM
What a waste! Torres shoulda stay up in anfield....he only givin' way de ball and like he 'fraid to take on dem defenders!
LOL typical shithong fan
the man play 45 minutes in a brand new team, new formation, new pressure against a team that playing a 5-4-1 formation and locking down space and you have the audacity to say the man fail the club already
haha allyuh are the greatest... embarrassing too
Jackass..you like the front end of a hot shit, yuh cyah WAIT to come stickin' yuh head out somebody asshole. I did that for the sole purpose of being sarcastic and givin' him the same Treatment Ramires was receiving on the thread......I guess if it not accompaanied by smileys and stick figures it would be lost on you....
suuuuuurreeee chow........suurrreeeeeeee..... :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
so far
david luiz - money well spent.
torres - seemed nervous. give him time
I dunno....the team plays this laid-back kinda style that frustrates me....in all our losses, you could see the opposing players, for the most part, wanted every ball more than our players. Our players were getting pressured in possession, their players were being given a tad bit too much space..that wholesale lack of hustle and determination....Torres looked downright uncomfortable and that is understandable. Once he stay injury-free, he will score goals. As far as any pressure being on him for this particular game, his teammates needed to step up and take that pressure off of him. Drogba didn't do it, Anellka didn't really do it, Malouda didn't do it either and Lampard wasn't as effective as we needed him to be. Cech had a right to come and claim that ball, but I can't be too hard on him because he has been stellar this season. The title race is pretty much over.....unless we get some miracles.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 12:20:52 PM
What a waste! Torres shoulda stay up in anfield....he only givin' way de ball and like he 'fraid to take on dem defenders!
LOL typical shithong fan
the man play 45 minutes in a brand new team, new formation, new pressure against a team that playing a 5-4-1 formation and locking down space and you have the audacity to say the man fail the club already
haha allyuh are the greatest... embarrassing too
Jackass..you like the front end of a hot shit, yuh cyah WAIT to come stickin' yuh head out somebody asshole. I did that for the sole purpose of being sarcastic and givin' him the same Treatment Ramires was receiving on the thread......I guess if it not accompaanied by smileys and stick figures it would be lost on you....
suuuuuurreeee chow........suurrreeeeeeee..... :rotfl:
Forget you, Sammy!! I vex right now! :rotfl:
Post by: Daft Trini on February 06, 2011, 12:24:00 PM
Post by: Blue on February 06, 2011, 01:23:06 PM
Post by: Blue on February 07, 2011, 02:51:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/7B5ftOV3FYA
Post by: sammy on February 14, 2011, 05:52:06 PM
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Post by: D.H.W on February 14, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Anybody home?
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 05:58:29 PM
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:rotfl: I hadda laugh at dis one, myself. This was funny....but payback go be nasty so watchout!
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2011, 06:17:24 PM
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:rotfl: I hadda laugh at dis one, myself. This was funny....but payback go be nasty so watchout!
Listen I remembered when when United was going tru the whole Rooney saga and the originator of this thread and some Chelski fans were in dey glee talking about United gone tru, and they can't wait for United to jus fall apart. Well is that the kind of payback you talking about? ;)
Post by: Bitter on February 14, 2011, 06:18:06 PM
But Luiz is the real deal. They coulda leave Torres in Liverpool, he need $100 for a slump buster.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 06:28:01 PM
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:rotfl: I hadda laugh at dis one, myself. This was funny....but payback go be nasty so watchout!
Listen I remembered when when United was going tru the whole Rooney saga and the originator of this thread and some Chelski fans were in dey glee talking about United gone tru, and they can't wait for United to jus fall apart. Well is that the kind of payback you talking about? ;)
No. I remember (1) tellin' allyuh not to be worryin' too much about the Glazers and the whole financial issues when Portsmouth was goin' tru dey issues and every body was runnin' roung like chicken, bawlin' "de sky fawlin'!" Now allyuh in allyuh glee, nobody eh tinkin' 'bout de books no more. ;) I also remember (2) lamenting that the announcers (and others) was getting ahead of themselves when rooney scored his first goal (a penalty) of the season, declaring that "he's back" when in fact he wasn't.....He STILL isn't. One lil' bicycle kick does not a season make. Listen, we may have coached and played ourselves out of the race this year....but next year is worries fuh allyuh!
Side Notes: (1) I puttin' the blame squarely on Carlo shoulders now, (2) Torres will eventually find his scoring feet and (3) Luiz is a BOSS player. Bye bye, Paulo Fereirra.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 14, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2011, 06:43:23 PM
Hello
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:rotfl: I hadda laugh at dis one, myself. This was funny....but payback go be nasty so watchout!
Listen I remembered when when United was going tru the whole Rooney saga and the originator of this thread and some Chelski fans were in dey glee talking about United gone tru, and they can't wait for United to jus fall apart. Well is that the kind of payback you talking about? ;)
No. I remember (1) tellin' allyuh not to be worryin' too much about the Glazers and the whole financial issues when Portsmouth was goin' tru dey issues and every body was runnin' roung like chicken, bawlin' "de sky fawlin'!" Now allyuh in allyuh glee, nobody eh tinkin' 'bout de books no more. ;) I also remember (2) lamenting that the announcers (and others) was getting ahead of themselves when rooney scored his first goal (a penalty) of the season, declaring that "he's back" when in fact he wasn't.....He STILL isn't. One lil' bicycle kick does not a season make. Listen, we may have coached and played ourselves out of the race this year....but next year is worries fuh allyuh!
Side Notes: (1) I puttin' the blame squarely on Carlo shoulders now, (2) Torres will eventually find his scoring feet and (3) Luiz is a BOSS player. Bye bye, Paulo Fereirra.
When will allyuh realize all yuh need wingers and not forwards playing on the wings? Roonay has played shite all season including up until he scored Saturday! Kompany had him under heavy manners! Thank goodness everybody else has picked up the slack this year! We will buy in the summer and we will get better, allyuh need to buy a whole team to compete with us! Spurs in better position to get better than allyuh; doh study we study Spurs and City!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 06:43:44 PM
have to say allyuh real lucky ref FAILED to have that penalty retaken
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
If they scored it would have had to have been re-taken as well. Players from BOTH teams were in the box. Try again!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 06:47:05 PM
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:rotfl: I hadda laugh at dis one, myself. This was funny....but payback go be nasty so watchout!
Listen I remembered when when United was going tru the whole Rooney saga and the originator of this thread and some Chelski fans were in dey glee talking about United gone tru, and they can't wait for United to jus fall apart. Well is that the kind of payback you talking about? ;)
No. I remember (1) tellin' allyuh not to be worryin' too much about the Glazers and the whole financial issues when Portsmouth was goin' tru dey issues and every body was runnin' roung like chicken, bawlin' "de sky fawlin'!" Now allyuh in allyuh glee, nobody eh tinkin' 'bout de books no more. ;) I also remember (2) lamenting that the announcers (and others) was getting ahead of themselves when rooney scored his first goal (a penalty) of the season, declaring that "he's back" when in fact he wasn't.....He STILL isn't. One lil' bicycle kick does not a season make. Listen, we may have coached and played ourselves out of the race this year....but next year is worries fuh allyuh!
Side Notes: (1) I puttin' the blame squarely on Carlo shoulders now, (2) Torres will eventually find his scoring feet and (3) Luiz is a BOSS player. Bye bye, Paulo Fereirra.
When will allyuh realize all yuh need wingers and not forwards playing on the wings? Roonay has played shite all season including up until he scored Saturday! Kompany had him under heavy manners! Thank goodness everybody else has picked up the slack this year! We will buy in the summer and we will get better, allyuh need to buy a whole team to compete with us! Spurs in better position to get better than allyuh; doh study we study Spurs and City!
I eh even want to hear talk about wingers because I was rantin' about dat 4 seasons ago. We had Robben, SWP, Joe Cole and Duff and we let them ALL go! Take dat one up wit management!
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 06:54:14 PM
Glad we score to win against City but lord just because it was Roonay the Englishman who ,the spectacular goal, now the English press acting like he is the English Pele!
the americans doing the same thing....takin' poll and all kinda ting callin' it "the best" bicycle kick ever.....WTF?!?! Obviously they never see the one Ronaldinho score fuh Barca!
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 14, 2011, 11:44:42 PM
I know the rules captain obvious, the ref failed to mhave it retaken the laws are clear on thishave to say allyuh real lucky ref FAILED to have that penalty retaken
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
If they scored it would have had to have been re-taken as well. Players from BOTH teams were in the box. Try again!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 15, 2011, 04:56:43 AM
I know the rules captain obvious, the ref failed to mhave it retaken the laws are clear on thishave to say allyuh real lucky ref FAILED to have that penalty retaken
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
If they scored it would have had to have been re-taken as well. Players from BOTH teams were in the box. Try again!
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, SHOO, fly!!
I doh really care whether or not yuh know the rules, private benjamin, it's your one-sided remarks I'm addressing. Either you "obviously" FAILED to acknowledge how the rules applied in this case or yuh really just don't know them as much as you claim to. If dempsey had scored, would you have come on this thread to bitch about the ref having "...FAILED to have the penalty re-taken..." or that Fulham "...get away..." I seriously doubt it, but yuh sure woulda had something to say about any Chelsea fan that may have taken that position, though. Please.....go--------->THAT way!
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 15, 2011, 06:49:18 AM
I know the rules captain obvious, the ref failed to mhave it retaken the laws are clear on thishave to say allyuh real lucky ref FAILED to have that penalty retakenIf they scored it would have had to have been re-taken as well. Players from BOTH teams were in the box. Try again!
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, SHOO, fly!!
I doh really care whether or not yuh know the rules, private benjamin, it's your one-sided remarks I'm addressing. Either you "obviously" FAILED to acknowledge how the rules applied in this case or yuh really just don't know them as much as you claim to. If dempsey had scored, would you have come on this thread to bitch about the ref having "...FAILED to have the penalty re-taken..." or that Fulham "...get away..." I seriously doubt it, but yuh sure woulda had something to say about any Chelsea fan that may have taken that position, though. Please.....go--------->THAT way!
Mango chump
Did I say you were lucky he didn't score?
I said you were lucky it wasn't retaken
So take yuh wrong and strong blue blood BS, shut up and learn some objectivity
Hope you don't struggle to comprehend the fact that it should have been retaken score or not
if dempsey scored and it wasnt retaken i woulda come here and said hard luck and made note that Chelsea in the same boat as arsenal as opposed to manu
you are the prejudiced one, if another chelsea fan said exactly what i said i doubt you would let this "fly" ruffle yuh big blue ass
Its another example of the substandard officiating that is killing the game especially in the premiership
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 15, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
I know the rules captain obvious, the ref failed to mhave it retaken the laws are clear on thishave to say allyuh real lucky ref FAILED to have that penalty retakenIf they scored it would have had to have been re-taken as well. Players from BOTH teams were in the box. Try again!
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, SHOO, fly!!
I doh really care whether or not yuh know the rules, private benjamin, it's your one-sided remarks I'm addressing. Either you "obviously" FAILED to acknowledge how the rules applied in this case or yuh really just don't know them as much as you claim to. If dempsey had scored, would you have come on this thread to bitch about the ref having "...FAILED to have the penalty re-taken..." or that Fulham "...get away..." I seriously doubt it, but yuh sure woulda had something to say about any Chelsea fan that may have taken that position, though. Please.....go--------->THAT way!
Mango chump
Did I say you were lucky he didn't score?
I said you were lucky it wasn't retaken
So take yuh wrong and strong blue blood BS, shut up and learn some objectivity
Hope you don't struggle to comprehend the fact that it should have been retaken score or not :bs:
I obviously know the rule better than you. Yuh need to get a refund for them refereeing courses yuh claim yuh take.
if dempsey scored and it wasnt retaken i woulda come here and said hard luck and made note that Chelsea in the same boat as arsenal as opposed to manu :bs:
you are the prejudiced one, if another chelsea fan said exactly what i said i doubt you would let this "fly" ruffle yuh big blue ass :bs:
Chelsea fans would have been told the same thing with a much nicer tone....obviously, jackass.
Its another example of the substandard officiating that is killing the game especially in the premiership :bs:
Too late to try and "show" objectivity here (a menial attempt, albeit.) There was none present in your initial post.
Boy....I could only IMAGINE how much you make your teachers pull out they hair in primary school because you are as strongheadedly dumb.....as they come. Please don't try to come now, talkin' 'bout the "subtandard officiating" now because that was never the objective of your point in the first place.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 15, 2011, 04:10:25 PM
I know the rules captain obvious, the ref failed to mhave it retaken the laws are clear on thishave to say allyuh real lucky ref FAILED to have that penalty retakenIf they scored it would have had to have been re-taken as well. Players from BOTH teams were in the box. Try again!
drogba blatantly IN the box BEFORE dempsey even kicks the ball
get away, what a get away
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, SHOO, fly!!
I doh really care whether or not yuh know the rules, private benjamin, it's your one-sided remarks I'm addressing. Either you "obviously" FAILED to acknowledge how the rules applied in this case or yuh really just don't know them as much as you claim to. If dempsey had scored, would you have come on this thread to bitch about the ref having "...FAILED to have the penalty re-taken..." or that Fulham "...get away..." I seriously doubt it, but yuh sure woulda had something to say about any Chelsea fan that may have taken that position, though. Please.....go--------->THAT way!
Mango chump
Did I say you were lucky he didn't score?
I said you were lucky it wasn't retaken
So take yuh wrong and strong blue blood BS, shut up and learn some objectivity
Hope you don't struggle to comprehend the fact that it should have been retaken score or not :bs: in your opinion bs or not, but the law is there and the ref got it wrong.
I obviously know the rule better than you. Yuh need to get a refund for them refereeing courses yuh claim yuh take.
if dempsey scored and it wasnt retaken i woulda come here and said hard luck and made note that Chelsea in the same boat as arsenal as opposed to manu :bs:
you are the prejudiced one, if another chelsea fan said exactly what i said i doubt you would let this "fly" ruffle yuh big blue ass :bs:
Chelsea fans would have been told the same thing with a much nicer tone....obviously, jackass. by you, but you so looking life through blue tinted glasses you cant see further than yuh braying muzzle
Its another example of the substandard officiating that is killing the game especially in the premiership :bs: how was this bs? you think the ref got this one right?
Too late to try and "show" objectivity here (a menial attempt, albeit.) There was none present in your initial post. it was always implied, i am sure you remember small mag and i going on about the manu getting the calls etc
Boy....I could only IMAGINE how much you make your teachers pull out they hair in primary school because you are as strongheadedly dumb.....as they come. Please don't try to come now, talkin' 'bout the "subtandard officiating" now because that was never the objective of your point in the first place.
mango fuh brains
i have ALWAYS spoken out against poor officiating, it is my biggest gripe in todays game
for example when a manu player burried studs in drogbas chest and drogba got booked
you just sour ppl jumping up about chelsea get away etc etc
fact remains ref FAILED to have it retaken
good night and good luck maybe the wizard might give you a bigger brain and a smaller mouth
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 15, 2011, 07:18:17 PM
I guess Chelsea are lucky it wasn't "re-taken" because what, you and God alone know for sure that a re-taken penalty was going to score, right? Ok, boss. What go be the Barca-arsenal score tomorrow? Boy....go f**k yuh self and make a child nuh!
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 15, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
gunnerstunner, I won't bother to quote you again, it gettin' too tiresome......I could only shake my head at how fundamentally and amazingly stupid you are. If you still cannot comprehend my position that the penalty was supposed to be taken over whether dempsey scored or not, and still call yuh self tryin' to beat ME over the head with it, yuh need to come off the computer and try "Nelson's West Indian Readers" instead. You simply cannot read, my friend, and I truly pity you. I'm sure you rather carry a pound of feathers than a pound of lead because the lead too heavy but yuh know what, the world have room for dum-dums like you, Jed.Boy this mango skin sorf!
I guess Chelsea are lucky it wasn't "re-taken" because what, you and God alone know for sure that a re-taken penalty was going to score, right? Ok, boss. What go be the Barca-arsenal score tomorrow? Boy....go f**k yuh self and make a child nuh!
Only a moron like you coupd deduce that I was implying that fulham would score the retaken penalty that should have been retaken that you like a child pointed out that fulham players were in the box
But mamee he do it too!
You so ignorant
I said Chelsea was lucky, luck does not denot a guarantee
Hence because it wasn't retaken because of the red failure we will never know
But since you cannot man up and say yes we dodged a bullet there you want to act like every illiterate male machismo that is pulling TnT down
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 15, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
gunnerstunner, I won't bother to quote you again, it gettin' too tiresome......I could only shake my head at how fundamentally and amazingly stupid you are. If you still cannot comprehend my position that the penalty was supposed to be taken over whether dempsey scored or not, and still call yuh self tryin' to beat ME over the head with it, yuh need to come off the computer and try "Nelson's West Indian Readers" instead. You simply cannot read, my friend, and I truly pity you. I'm sure you rather carry a pound of feathers than a pound of lead because the lead too heavy but yuh know what, the world have room for dum-dums like you, Jed.Boy this mango skin sorf!
I guess Chelsea are lucky it wasn't "re-taken" because what, you and God alone know for sure that a re-taken penalty was going to score, right? Ok, boss. What go be the Barca-arsenal score tomorrow? Boy....go f**k yuh self and make a child nuh!
Only a moron like you coupd deduce that I was implying that fulham would score the retaken penalty that should have been retaken that you like a child pointed out that fulham players were in the box
But mamee he do it too!
You so ignorant
I said Chelsea was lucky, luck does not denot a guarantee
Hence because it wasn't retaken because of the red failure we will never know
But since you cannot man up and say yes we dodged a bullet there you want to act like every illiterate male machismo that is pulling TnT down
Boss...do you realize yuh talkin' so much arseness that you talkin' in circles and contradicting yourself at this point? I pity you even more. I take back what I said....go f**k yourself but please use a rubber. We don't want any more like you running around.
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 16, 2011, 06:18:59 AM
Your insults are nothing but a reflection of what little or no class you have. But I should expect that from a QRC waste product
Enjoy you and your teams breakdown this year
:devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 16, 2011, 08:03:56 AM
Mango Mess
Your insults are nothing but a reflection of what little or no class you have. But I should expect that from a QRC waste product
Enjoy you and your teams breakdown this year
:devil:
Yuh shouldn't keep lettin' the QRC thing bother yuh so much, jed. Relax and let it go....any other secondary school woulda teach yuh to read and write just as well had you had the opportunity....I mean...I'm sure yuh woulda make it outta primary school....eventually...so yuh shouldn'ta give up....but ah still give yuh credit, yuh tryin' now. Yuh tryin' real hard.
As far as my team breakin' down this year....small ting, jed. QRC does teach we how to take we wins and losses in stride. I have long come to grips with Chelsea's season this year so keep yuh devil and play mas wit it.....is YOU who have tears to come in yuh eye over the next couple months. Ah promise ah go offer yuh a hanky to wwipe yuh tears. (dize wha QRC man does do when dey see lil' gyul cryin')
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 16, 2011, 11:47:27 AM
And I could care less about any team you follow ups n downs
I have my own for that
But try and understand that you are just the annoying pothound barking loud behind a fence of ignorance with a falsely placed sense of intelect and moral righteousness
Arsenal Forever! :devil: :beermug: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 16, 2011, 12:05:13 PM
The only girl crying is in my mirror
And I couldn't care less about any team you follow ups n downs
I have my own for that
But try and understand that you are just annoying the pothound barking loud behind a fence of ignorance with a falsely placed sense of intelect and moral righteousness
Arsenal Forever! :devil: :beermug: :rotfl:
Ah fix it fuh yuh. :beermug:
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 16, 2011, 03:24:34 PM
The only girl crying is in my mirror
And I couldn't care less about any team you follow ups n downs
I have my own for that
But try and understand that you are just annoying the pothound barking loud behind a fence of ignorance with a falsely placed sense of intelect and moral righteousness
Arsenal Forever! :devil: :beermug: :rotfl:
Ah fix it fuh yuh. :beermug:
buh aye aye
you can teach an old dog new tricks :beermug: :rotfl: :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2011, 07:26:53 AM
HT: Chelsea 0 : 0 Everton
Simply put: Malouda pullin' stones!
Post by: Observer on February 19, 2011, 08:01:04 AM
Post by: grimm01 on February 19, 2011, 08:24:14 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 19, 2011, 08:25:49 AM
FA Cup 4th round replay
HT: Chelsea 0 : 0 Everton
Simply put:MaloudaChelsea pullin' stones!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2011, 08:36:30 AM
I must admit everytime Everton came on tv, I switch off & find something to do. I could not stand their football. However, Moyes seems to have bent and Everton are now playing a constructive brand. For some reason, I get the feeling the more influencial players like Arteta put him to sit dwon and said "we need to change or I am out" What ever happen, Everton football is now more modern.
...but their game still in need of a lot more development when their GK is persistently their best player.
Grimm and Bitter I agree wit allyuh but ah comin' back on dat.
Post by: Bakes on February 19, 2011, 09:01:38 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 19, 2011, 09:03:47 AM
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b1bcd6ab5b78.jpg)
Post by: Observer on February 19, 2011, 09:04:25 AM
I must admit everytime Everton came on tv, I switch off & find something to do. I could not stand their football. However, Moyes seems to have bent and Everton are now playing a constructive brand. For some reason, I get the feeling the more influencial players like Arteta put him to sit dwon and said "we need to change or I am out" What ever happen, Everton football is now more modern.
...but their game still in need of a lot more development when their GK is persistently their best player.
Grimm and Bitter I agree wit allyuh but ah comin' back on dat.
Ent! ;D Could not agree more!
Post by: Bitter on February 19, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
Fire Ancelotti now!
Post by: grimm01 on February 19, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Steups
Fire Ancelotti now!
Can't see him lasting much longer...
Post by: Sando on February 19, 2011, 09:19:08 AM
Post by: Observer on February 19, 2011, 09:20:12 AM
Steups
Fire Ancelotti now!
yeah boy I can't believe Ancelotti miss dem penalty. Give me a break. ???
Chelsea team has been allowed to age together & lets face it players like Anelka need to be go. complete lack of passion for the colours & game in general.
Post by: sammy on February 19, 2011, 09:26:49 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 19, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on February 19, 2011, 09:57:50 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2011, 10:06:35 AM
Watch out City.......your're gonna get some new fans next year :rotfl:
:rotfl: Nah, Padna. Wrong shade ah blue.
As far as men callin' fuh Ancelotti head, yes he didn't take the penalties, but when a team's play is so dull, lethargic and clueless.....somebody up top hadda take responsiblity fuh dat. I is not one to call fuh men head jes so, and all respect, the man lead the tam to two trophies last year.....but something is fundamentally wrong with this team and it have something to do with the connection between the players and somebody in management. When it comes to a team's preparedness and attitude on the pitch, ultimately is the manager have to shoulder that and whatever Carlo is doing behind the scenes, it eh workin'. I love Anelka's ability. He's as naturally gifted a player you will ever want to see. But he looks a little too disinterested at this point than to further his career at Stamford Bridge. At least Ashley Cole had some kinda look of anguish after missin' his penalty. Anelka look like he was in a hurry to check all he texts and missed calls. Petr Cech had no right being SO FAR to one side of the goal on that free kick. Malouda and Kalou shoulda been taken off long before they were. Ferreira need to leave before the season is over. Lampard need to get he mind checked out. Essien is not the same as even last season/ Ramires is just fine.
Post by: Bitter on February 19, 2011, 10:18:46 AM
Steups
Fire Ancelotti now!
yeah boy I can't believe Ancelotti miss dem penalty. Give me a break. ???
I was just channeling the Fire Latapy vibe.
This team need a bush bath. I hear Manchester have... ::)
Post by: injunchile on February 19, 2011, 11:08:01 AM
Winning Champions league may save his behind. For a big player what a sad penalty from Anelka .
The Ref had a bad day as well, turning down a blatant penalty.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 19, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Post by: Observer on February 19, 2011, 12:38:24 PM
Abramovic screwed up the team chemistry with his decision to sack Wilkins & place someone who's previous coaching experience was U12 girls in the US.
Post by: Blue on February 19, 2011, 01:35:42 PM
Post by: lefty on February 19, 2011, 01:50:53 PM
Speaking with some die hard Chelsea fans in London. They are convinced that
Abramovic screwed up the team chemistry with his decision to sack Wilkins & place someone who's previous coaching experience was U12 girls in the US.
same ting I sayin since long time, look how dem start d season compared to after dat happen, complete about turn, dat eh no coincidence, nobody coulda convince me that Lampard return would completely turn ting around like some were suggesting or the bell curve peak an droppin now............dont believe dat one bit.
Post by: D.H.W on February 19, 2011, 01:52:12 PM
FA Cup 4th round replay
HT: Chelsea 0 : 0 Everton
Simply put: Malouda pullin' stones!
who cares?! ::)
:heehee:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2011, 02:21:24 PM
FA Cup 4th round replay
HT: Chelsea 0 : 0 Everton
Simply put: Malouda pullin' stones!
who cares?! ::)
:heehee:
:rotfl: Why yuh wait until after yuh side win to arkske dah question?
Post by: sammy on February 19, 2011, 03:02:38 PM
:devil:FA Cup 4th round replay
HT: Chelsea 0 : 0 Everton
Simply put: Malouda pullin' stones!
who cares?! ::)
:heehee:
:rotfl: Why yuh wait until after yuh side win to arkske dah question?
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 19, 2011, 03:29:15 PM
:devil:
Post by: sammy on February 19, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
Just hope I doh goat mouth Arsenal tomorrow but tis funny
:devil:
goat mouth is a cerious ting eh know.
Post by: RehanaOmardeenfan on February 19, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
Watch out City.......your're gonna get some new fans next year :rotfl:
I'm getting my City gear now....its been real chelsea :'(
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 20, 2011, 02:35:43 PM
Looks like I half goat mouth meh side :rotfl:Just hope I doh goat mouth Arsenal tomorrow but tis funny
:devil:
goat mouth is a cerious ting eh know.
Post by: D.H.W on February 20, 2011, 03:24:46 PM
Looks like I half goat mouth meh side :rotfl:Just hope I doh goat mouth Arsenal tomorrow but tis funny
:devil:
goat mouth is a cerious ting eh know.
:devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 20, 2011, 03:55:06 PM
Looks like I half goat mouth meh side :rotfl:Just hope I doh goat mouth Arsenal tomorrow but tis funny
:devil:
goat mouth is a cerious ting eh know.
Well hurry up wit de other half nuh?!
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 21, 2011, 09:18:51 AM
sale done
Post by: Daft Trini on February 21, 2011, 10:18:11 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 21, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
ahahahaha , :rotfl: :rotfl: hit them while they down :devil:
Post by: Daft Trini on February 21, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 21, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
:shameonyou: :shameonyou: Not at all, Padnah!!
Post by: elan on February 21, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
Post by: sammy on February 21, 2011, 05:35:44 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2011, 06:03:23 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
WAAAY :rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on February 21, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Allyuh United fans are the worse! Get off the people thread, let dem die in peace nah, so dey can come back City fans! :devil:
Post by: sammy on February 21, 2011, 07:15:45 PM
Chelsea Forever!!!!!!!! Blue Through and Through.
Nice loophole yuh leave they elan..
:devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 22, 2011, 04:50:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/9iVD6OPHqF8
.......DieHard, Giggsy, Sammy, Daft Trini......allyuh go 'long....nex' year (God willing) allyuh go bleed red and ah go be right dey, showin' no mercy! After joy and laughter comes sorrow and cryter. Watch allyuh go see! (Is LIX fuh dah Danish side tonight!)
Post by: injunchile on February 22, 2011, 05:46:31 AM
Post by: sammy on February 22, 2011, 06:18:44 AM
Mango Chow dont let those fellas raise your blood pressure. We have been there - done that -now it is time for the Champions League. We are the Champions.
hmmm u sounding like u was a liverpool man before u jump to chelsea? :angel:
Post by: jr sams on February 22, 2011, 08:39:18 AM
through the covers, down to the boundary for four....Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
WAAAY :rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
through the covers, down to the boundary for four....Home of the former Champion bitche$$$ :devil:
;D Enjoy allyuh self.....we comin' back nex; year!
As a Man City Supporter :beermug:
WAAAY :rotfl:
Not ah man move!
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 09:19:34 AM
All ah feelin' is BOOTS dong here in meh ass boy!
http://www.youtube.com/v/9iVD6OPHqF8
.......DieHard, Giggsy, Sammy, Daft Trini......allyuh go 'long....nex' year (God willing) allyuh go bleed red and ah go be right dey, showin' no mercy! After joy and laughter comes sorrow and cryter. Watch allyuh go see! (Is LIX fuh dah Danish side tonight!)
Wey tuh keep the faith pardner! :angel: Terry did say for allyuh tuh man up, and we know what dos happen when Mr. Chelski speaks! Talk about goatmout for days!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 22, 2011, 10:52:54 AM
Mango Chow dont let those fellas raise your blood pressure. We have been there - done that -now it is time for the Champions League. We are the Champions.
Nah, my pressha rel good. But ah markin' all ah dem fuh nex' year. :devil: (and ah addin' jr. sams to de list!)
Post by: lefty on February 22, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
Mango Chow dont let those fellas raise your blood pressure. We have been there - done that -now it is time for the Champions League. We are the Champions.
Nah, my pressha rel good. But ah markin' all ah dem fuh nex' year. :devil: (and ah addin' jr. sams to de list!)
roman f**k up d scene bad cyar see CL being ah real possibility :'(
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 22, 2011, 11:28:37 AM
Mango Chow dont let those fellas raise your blood pressure. We have been there - done that -now it is time for the Champions League. We are the Champions.
Nah, my pressha rel good. But ah markin' all ah dem fuh nex' year. :devil: (and ah addin' jr. sams to de list!)
roman f**k up d scene bad cyar see CL being ah real possibility :'(
Roman giveth and he meddleth.....too bad, but when he leave another billionaire owner comin' een. Chelsea have money to make.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
Post by: Blue on February 22, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him? Is it a sign that he on his way out? Drogba has done more for the success of Chelski than Anelka IMO. Malouda cut his hair to try an get rid of the jumbie!
Anelka is a secondary striker / right winger in Chelsea's formation. Drogba and Torres play the same role in this formation - center forward - so its one or the other. And Drogba played 120 minutes on Saturday.
Post by: Blue on February 22, 2011, 02:04:05 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him? Is it a sign that he on his way out? Drogba has done more for the success of Chelski than Anelka IMO. Malouda cut his hair to try an get rid of the jumbie!
Anelka is a secondary striker / right winger in Chelsea's formation. Drogba and Torres play the same role in this formation - center forward - so its one or the other. And Drogba played 120 minutes on Saturday.
Boom Bang
Post by: Bitter on February 22, 2011, 02:06:33 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him?
GOAL A mistake from Gronkjaer allows Anelka to slip through and show Torres (and Drogba) how it's done. Angled drive and that's 1-0 to the visitors.
;)
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 02:09:41 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him? Is it a sign that he on his way out? Drogba has done more for the success of Chelski than Anelka IMO. Malouda cut his hair to try an get rid of the jumbie!
Anelka is a secondary striker / right winger in Chelsea's formation. Drogba and Torres play the same role in this formation - center forward - so its one or the other. And Drogba played 120 minutes on Saturday.
Alrighty then!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 22, 2011, 02:25:59 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him?
GOAL A mistake from Gronkjaer allows Anelka to slip through and show Torres (and Drogba) how it's done. Angled drive and that's 1-0 to the visitors.
;)
Too bad he cyah show nobody how to take a simple penalty. ???
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him?
GOAL A mistake from Gronkjaer allows Anelka to slip through and show Torres (and Drogba) how it's done. Angled drive and that's 1-0 to the visitors.
;)
Too bad he cyah show nobody how to take a simple penalty. ???
Ah also think he does use botox; that fella pan hard and doh move!
Post by: Observer on February 22, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him? Is it a sign that he on his way out? Drogba has done more for the success of Chelski than Anelka IMO. Malouda cut his hair to try an get rid of the jumbie!
;D Anelka with 2. That is why we are fans and not coaches :rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 03:43:55 PM
All jokes aside, unless Drogba injured; why start Anelka ahead of him? Is it a sign that he on his way out? Drogba has done more for the success of Chelski than Anelka IMO. Malouda cut his hair to try an get rid of the jumbie!
;D Anelka with 2. That is why we are fans and not coaches :rotfl:
Right, I think I have goatmout! Anelka rell let meh down!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 23, 2011, 09:22:34 AM
Post by: Ngozi on February 26, 2011, 07:45:29 PM
February 26, 2011
By ESPNsoccernet staff
Chelsea defender Ashley Cole has allegedly shot and wounded a work experience boy at the club after "larking" around with an air rifle, according to the News of the World.
Ashley Cole: In the fantasy form of his life - along with most of the Chelsea defence
GettyImages / DarrenWalshAshley Cole: Controversial figure
The incident happened last Sunday at the Chelsea's Cobham training ground when Cole took the .22 gun from a box, not realising it was loaded, and accidentially fired at Tom Cowan, 21, from just five feet away.
A source told the News of the World: "It's truly inconceivable that a Premier League footballer could bring a gun to the training ground.
"But Ashley pulled the rifle from a box and started larking about with it in the changing room, not realising it was loaded. It ended up pointed at Tom just five feet away.
"The gun went off with a loud pop and Tom screamed as this lead pellet hit him in the side. It went through his clothing and into his flesh."
Cowan received treatment from the Chelsea medical staff and was given two days to rest after the ordeal, which was witnessed by a dozen staff members of the club.
Police were not called and the source went on to say that Chelsea officials were concerned that "it would be a PR disaster if this became public knowledge, so the club has closed ranks over it".
At present there has been no word from Chelsea about the alleged incident.
Post by: D.H.W on February 26, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 28, 2011, 08:05:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ldCWdIbp02s&feature=player_embedded
Post by: RehanaOmardeenfan on February 28, 2011, 09:12:21 AM
I REAL LAUGH :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ldCWdIbp02s&feature=player_embedded
God I hate Chinese news....they did that with Tiger woods too :devil:
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2011, 01:28:29 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2011, 02:11:46 PM
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 02:17:13 PM
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 02:20:59 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2011, 02:22:45 PM
Yeah boy ivanovich, utd does get all the calls
Nigga PLEASE!
Post by: Bitter on March 01, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 01, 2011, 03:01:35 PM
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2011, 03:23:17 PM
Post by: Bitter on March 01, 2011, 03:35:12 PM
Post by: Bitter on March 01, 2011, 03:36:23 PM
I guess we not playing in Old Trafford
Post by: DeSoWa on March 01, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
Rouge pour Vidic!
I guess we not playing in Old Trafford
They still got 5 mins of Fergie time to try and get ah equalizer ;D
Big Up!
Post by: kicker on March 01, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2011, 03:45:28 PM
Post by: Bitter on March 01, 2011, 03:49:44 PM
Weak penalty, poor refereeing... good drama, good game...
So essentially, Man U get a taste of their own medicine?
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 01, 2011, 03:59:59 PM
i honestly thought you guys couldn't do it, way to keep the title still up for grabs
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 01, 2011, 04:12:37 PM
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2011, 04:25:01 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :beermug:
i honestly thought you guys couldn't do it, way to keep the title still up for grabs
:beermug:
but shame about walcott though...and van persie...and alex song....and koscielny...and, erm, fabregas....good luck :whistling:
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 01, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :beermug:
i honestly thought you guys couldn't do it, way to keep the title still up for grabs
:beermug:
but shame about walcott though...and van persie...and alex song....and koscielny...and, erm, fabregas....good luck :whistling:
wait yuh forget Thomas too... flickin injury jumbie
two things arsenal need to study what the eff they doing wrong to get so many injuries and start practising defending/attacking set pieces
now to see if pool can follow suit and peg back manu again
Post by: elan on March 01, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 05:04:20 PM
Home Of the F@#king Champions!!!!!!!!!!
For now; enjoy it will you still can!
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 02, 2011, 09:44:49 AM
Home Of the F@#king Champions!!!!!!!!!!
For now; enjoy it will you still can!
heres a lil conspiracy theory for ya'll
if manu win thier 19th trophy to pass liverpool
think of the revenue the FA and the Premier league stand to gain by promoting this possible fact.
think of the tv rights for the league, the minions of manu scum that will rise out of the pond to buy shirts and lash themselves to the band wagon any way they can
having said that, its nice to put these conspiracy cats amongst the pigeons :devil: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 11:37:30 AM
:rotfl:
Post by: Blue on March 02, 2011, 02:30:49 PM
Home Of the F@#king Champions!!!!!!!!!!
For now; enjoy it will you still can!
heres a lil conspiracy theory for ya'll
if manu win thier 19th trophy to pass liverpool
think of the revenue the FA and the Premier league stand to gain by promoting this possible fact.
think of the tv rights for the league, the minions of manu scum that will rise out of the pond to buy shirts and lash themselves to the band wagon any way they can
having said that, its nice to put these conspiracy cats amongst the pigeons :devil: :rotfl:
dude, everyone in England has had that on the radar for years now, its not like the FA could spring any surprises by 'promoting this possible fact' :rotfl: :rotfl:
worst conspiracy theory ever :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 07:55:57 AM
Post by: FF on March 07, 2011, 08:01:05 AM
Ah feelin' sorry fuh Blackpool and kinda want to see them win their fight against relegation....but they hadda eat this rounds today....They good fuh about 4 from a side like my BIG side but ah know they go fight hard at home.
dey missing Charlie Adam and Dj Campbell... dey sure to get licks today...
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 08:03:41 AM
Ah feelin' sorry fuh Blackpool and kinda want to see them win their fight against relegation....but they hadda eat this rounds today....They good fuh about46 or 7 from a side like my BIG side but ah know they go fight hard at home.
dey missing Charlie Adam and Dj Campbell... dey sure to get licks today...
Ah fix it.
Post by: kicker on March 07, 2011, 08:37:03 AM
dey missing Charlie Adam and Dj Campbell... dey sure to get licks today...
DJ Campbell like he went mad in dey last game jed....mad!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 11:25:06 AM
dey missing Charlie Adam and Dj Campbell... dey sure to get licks today...
DJ Campbell like he went mad in dey last game jed....mad!!
ent dize de fella who get de red cyard? If is he, ah understand why he get as vex as he did....and ah glad he eh go be bringin' all dat intensity today. :whew: and while ah at it, lemme say "thanks" to Wolves fuh dey performance yesterday.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 02:03:22 PM
Post by: dwn on March 07, 2011, 03:05:34 PM
Post by: DeSoWa on March 07, 2011, 03:47:22 PM
Big Up!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 07, 2011, 04:16:20 PM
Kalou sayin' he just might havta leave Chelsea this summer because he eh gettin' enough starts....doh fuhget yuh darkers and take Malouda wit yuh. Bring back Daniel Sturridge oui! Loud fackin' steups. 3-1 victory but a far from impressive performance. Carlo just might not be the man to run this team. Is there any way we could get Hiddink back? ???
From since Anchi geh de job I tell ah bredrin ah mine ah woulda prefer Hiddink an de man tell meh daiz ah disrespect to Carlo. If yuh hear argument, yuh woulda swear he's Carlo agent lol. He come back just a few weeks ago an say "we could real use Hiddink right about now oui" I buss out one stinkin jammette laugh. Carlo is ah good manager but he obviously leaned heavily on Wilkins which is why his departure had such a major effect. To me looking at what Hiddink did when the team morale wasn't so hot and he took over midseason, I felt then and now that he was a perfect fit for us.
Kalou is a decent player but he will not start for any team that is a regular contender for league title and Champions League in any of the big leagues. He too damn eratic, how yuh could be in the goal mowt an kick de ball overbars and want to be ah 1st XI regular? I wouldn't be so hasty with Malouda until we have a quality replacement for him.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 04:28:18 PM
Kalou sayin' he just might havta leave Chelsea this summer because he eh gettin' enough starts....doh fuhget yuh darkers and take Malouda wit yuh. Bring back Daniel Sturridge oui! Loud fackin' steups. 3-1 victory but a far from impressive performance. Carlo just might not be the man to run this team. Is there any way we could get Hiddink back? ???
From since Anchi geh de job I tell ah bredrin ah mine ah woulda prefer Hiddink an de man tell meh daiz ah disrespect to Carlo. If yuh hear argument, yuh woulda swear he's Carlo agent lol. He come back just a few weeks ago an say "we could real use Hiddink right about now oui" I buss out one stinkin jammette laugh. :rotfl: Carlo is ah good manager but he obviously leaned heavily on Wilkins which is why his departure had such a major effect. To me looking at what Hiddink did when the team morale wasn't so hot and he took over midseason, I felt then and now that he was a perfect fit for us.
Kalou is a decent player but he will not start for any team that is a regular contender for league title and Champions League in any of the big leagues. He too damn eratic, how yuh could be in the goal mowt an kick de ball overbars and want to be ah 1st XI regular? I wouldn't be so hasty with Malouda until we have a quality replacement for him.
Indeed Carlo IS a good coach and a classy fella, but yuh right....Wilkins was clearly the glue that kept the team together, kept them motivated and it's clear from the way they are playing most of the games since that he has lost the team. Kalou really does have a good value in his ability to take on defenders but oh LAWD he IS erratic and chupid, too!! 83rd minute, long clearance outta de box, the ball come right to his feet and all he had to do was lay the ball over to Torres who had no defenders to beat and the goal at his mercy.....Kalou try some dotishness and gih way de ball......then of course was the ball he put up in de stands from 6 yards....loud fackin' steups! I was one of Malouda staunch defenders all when dinho was bussin' on him fro day one.....he startin' to frustrate me now. He jes' out dey doin' nonsense. Meanwhile, Ramires put een another good performance.
Post by: kicker on March 07, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
From since Anchi geh de job I tell ah bredrin ah mine ah woulda prefer Hiddink an de man tell meh daiz ah disrespect to Carlo. If yuh hear argument, yuh woulda swear he's Carlo agent lol. He come back just a few weeks ago an say "we could real use Hiddink right about now oui" I buss out one stinkin jammette laugh. Carlo is ah good manager but he obviously leaned heavily on Wilkins which is why his departure had such a major effect. To me looking at what Hiddink did when the team morale wasn't so hot and he took over midseason, I felt then and now that he was a perfect fit for us.
Hiddink did what alot of new coaches do- provide a short-term morale boost...nothing out of the ordinary (in a manner of speaking of course).
I wouldn't be too quick to say that Carlo obviously "leaned heavily" on Wilkins...at least no more so than most managers lean on their assistants. It was obvious that Wilkins' departure had a big effect but I woudn't say that that's an indictment of the manager.
Carlo done win everything in Europe jed .... 2 Champions Leagues and a league cup with Milan, and he done win the FA and the EPL title with Chelsea...I think Wenger is the only other non-english manager to do the league and cup double...and Carlo did it in his first season...
I eh saying that he's better man than Hiddink, but I wouldn't jump on him for this season problems...he's a proven winner...it seems like the team had internal issues that ran deep.
Post by: Observer on March 07, 2011, 05:22:19 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2011, 09:58:16 AM
In his short career as a coach Mourinho has painted a winning hue to his resume and I'm sure many of the RM faithful (yourself included) still felt that that wasn't good enough, that he wasn't the "right man" for the job, even though they are only lagging behind the best team on the planet right now. Continuing to use Jose as an example, when he brought consecutive winning seasons to Chelsea, the critics was hammering away at his "boring" football style and even though there was some validity to that, what he brought was a winning mentality to Chelsea that had been the missing piece to their puzzle for a long time. Some of the same critics was saying that he was winning with "Ranieri's team" but was quick to point out that avram grant took them to a CL final, while conveniently leaving out that it was still "Jose's team"...or was it still Ranieri's team at that point? Big Phil came in with a World Cup legacy behind him and he wasn't the answer. Now how much of Carlo's success in his first season are you willing to attribute to Hiddink's short-term morale boost? (if any at all)
At the end of the day, we could talk in circles to the point where our debates/discussions become self-contradictory and the parallels go askew. What matters for the Chelsea fans right now, is that it seems as though Carlo (love the man) has lost the team. Not necessarily in a disciplinary way, but we still tryin' to figure it out. They are showing no creativity whatsoever on the picth, no motivation and a complete loss of form that you just have to put down to coaching. This ain't a group of underdeveloped T&T players we talkin' about here. At the end of the day, these are highly skilled pros and the ultimate job of the coach is to band these fellas together and have them playing to win, playing for the fans, for each other and for you, no matter what the owner does (he's still paying them) and Carlo's team don't really look all that interested or sure of themselves..
Post by: kicker on March 08, 2011, 10:07:30 AM
I was responding directly to a Hiddink vs. Ancelotti comment, and making a point that the dog days of Chelsea at present doh necessarily mean that "Ancelotti is not the man for the job, and Hiddink is" as was being implied by Killa (I think)...Ancelotti is a winner...he's won with Milan, he's own with Chelsea, things eh lookin' de bess now, but I still think that the side has a winner in the Manager's position....normal football small talk.
One person state his view, I state mine...but l changing angles and lookin' fuh debate...sigh...
I talkin' football for fun jus' like you...
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2011, 10:32:34 AM
I wasn't involved in the Chelsea debate you're talking about.
I was responding directly to a Hiddink vs. Ancelotti comment, and making a point that the dog days of Chelsea at present doh necessarily mean that "Ancelotti is not the man for the job, and Hiddink is" as was being implied by Killa (I think)...Ancelotti is a winner...he's won with Milan, he's own with Chelsea, things eh lookin' de bess now, but I still think that the side has a winner in the Manager's position....normal football small talk.
One person state his view, I state mine...but l changing angles and lookin' fuh debate...sigh...
I talkin' football for fun jus' like you...
I think I was specific enough in categorizing it as a "debate slash discussion" and not as any one particular "debate" per se, which, as long as you are talkin' it for fun just like me, I am willing to talk with you, too. I am just pointing out how, while talking you seem to....sigh....change the rules or principles as you go along, or, should I say, as the small talk continues. I'm sure if any coach with a winning resume had your side (RM) playin' like how Chelsea playing (and it's not just about wins and losses) even you mighta been callin' fuh change....and you would be free to discuss it with those fans that want coninuity. No sceene.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 08, 2011, 10:33:18 AM
From since Anchi geh de job I tell ah bredrin ah mine ah woulda prefer Hiddink an de man tell meh daiz ah disrespect to Carlo. If yuh hear argument, yuh woulda swear he's Carlo agent lol. He come back just a few weeks ago an say "we could real use Hiddink right about now oui" I buss out one stinkin jammette laugh. Carlo is ah good manager but he obviously leaned heavily on Wilkins which is why his departure had such a major effect. To me looking at what Hiddink did when the team morale wasn't so hot and he took over midseason, I felt then and now that he was a perfect fit for us.
Hiddink did what alot of new coaches do- provide a short-term morale boost...nothing out of the ordinary (in a manner of speaking of course).
I wouldn't be too quick to say that Carlo obviously "leaned heavily" on Wilkins...at least no more so than most managers lean on their assistants. It was obvious that Wilkins' departure had a big effect but I woudn't say that that's an indictment of the manager.
Carlo done win everything in Europe jed .... 2 Champions Leagues and a league cup with Milan, and he done win the FA and the EPL title with Chelsea...I think Wenger is the only other non-english manager to do the league and cup double...and Carlo did it in his first season...
I eh saying that he's better man than Hiddink, but I wouldn't jump on him for this season problems...he's a proven winner...it seems like the team had internal issues that ran deep.
Fella don't twist my words into what it's not. From day one I said (if you read what I wrote) "ah woulda prefer Hiddink," full stop. I didn't question Carlo's pedigree not once so that "indictment of the manager" is neither here nor there. I fully aware of all that he has done and greatly appreciate what he did last season without question. My preference of Hiddink was based on me being impressed with how he handled himself at the Blues, as well as his management of Russia despite their failure to make the last WC. Saying Hiddink provided a morale boost is grossly understating the man's effect on the team and his abilities as a coach. Given how the Blues looked under Scolari and up until his departure, I doubt anyone would have bet anything that Chelsea would be in the CL finals and be runner up only by virtue of an away goal rather than actually being defeated in any of the legs. I am not jumping on Carlo for the seasons problems either so again you talking something outta timing here. He had a very good season last year and started off this one right where the last one ended. However this season he has had adversity to overcome that seems to have coincided mostly with the loss of Wilkins as an assistant. Watching over the last 2 months it's as if he's randomly searching for the cure and making questionable moves often resulting in no improvement. His substitution patterns are strange to say the least during that time period and the narrow 4-3-3 formation with Anelka as a CAM/ CF was even more bizare. What would those internal issues be that didn't seem to affect the team until Wilkins uncerimonious departure. The season was looking absolutely winnable until that moment. Lampard's injury saw a decrease in goal production but the team was still on a winning track. So how come all of a sudden there seems to be internal issues running deep?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 08, 2011, 10:37:18 AM
I agree with Kicker. The team (meaning the entire organization) has been poisoned. Its no secret, because this is a continued soap opera with Abramovic. He did it to Mourinho & he has done it again with Carlo. The only difference is it seems Abramovic is not willing to payout Carlo & Carlo too smart to walk. As for those who say he leaned heavily on Ray W. Well that is what TRUSTED staff is for. Now he has a staff that he did not select, so he knows that spies are in his mids, probably sinking him at every turn.
Spies lmao, how about the men not even remotely skilled and knowlegable like Wilkins to take on the duties that he perfomed when he was there. But doh mind me that less plausible than him spies trying to sink him :rotfl:
Post by: kicker on March 08, 2011, 01:20:58 PM
Fella don't twist my words into what it's not. From day one I said (if you read what I wrote) "ah woulda prefer Hiddink," full stop. I didn't question Carlo's pedigree not once so that "indictment of the manager" is neither here nor there. I fully aware of all that he has done and greatly appreciate what he did last season without question. My preference of Hiddink was based on me being impressed with how he handled himself at the Blues, as well as his management of Russia despite their failure to make the last WC. Saying Hiddink provided a morale boost is grossly understating the man's effect on the team and his abilities as a coach. Given how the Blues looked under Scolari and up until his departure, I doubt anyone would have bet anything that Chelsea would be in the CL finals and be runner up only by virtue of an away goal rather than actually being defeated in any of the legs. I am not jumping on Carlo for the seasons problems either so again you talking something outta timing here. He had a very good season last year and started off this one right where the last one ended. However this season he has had adversity to overcome that seems to have coincided mostly with the loss of Wilkins as an assistant. Watching over the last 2 months it's as if he's randomly searching for the cure and making questionable moves often resulting in no improvement. His substitution patterns are strange to say the least during that time period and the narrow 4-3-3 formation with Anelka as a CAM/ CF was even more bizare. What would those internal issues be that didn't seem to affect the team until Wilkins uncerimonious departure. The season was looking absolutely winnable until that moment. Lampard's injury saw a decrease in goal production but the team was still on a winning track. So how come all of a sudden there seems to be internal issues running deep?
Ok you're right, Ancelotti is not the man for the job this season...Hiddink woulda had Chelsea on top the table regardless of Wilkins' departure...
I not trying to twist yuh words, and the issues I talking about are obviously related to Wilkins' departure....Everyone can see that....I say they run deep to imply that even under Hiddink, Wilkins' departure may have had the same effect....But I just guessing just like everybody else....
Post by: kicker on March 08, 2011, 01:29:29 PM
I think I was specific enough in categorizing it as a "debate slash discussion" and not as any one particular "debate" per se, which, as long as you are talkin' it for fun just like me, I am willing to talk with you, too. I am just pointing out how, while talking you seem to....sigh....change the rules or principles as you go along, or, should I say, as the small talk continues. I'm sure if any coach with a winning resume had your side (RM) playin' like how Chelsea playing (and it's not just about wins and losses) even you mighta been callin' fuh change....and you would be free to discuss it with those fans that want coninuity. No sceene.
Exactly and that's what I doin'...just torkin' (writing)... I eh mean tuh tell allyuh doh vex with Ancelotti... just throwin' in a 2 cents...yuh could leave the 2 cents right dey or yuh could fret up yuhself about how ah shoulda do something better with the small change...
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2011, 01:38:13 PM
I think I was specific enough in categorizing it as a "debate slash discussion" and not as any one particular "debate" per se, which, as long as you are talkin' it for fun just like me, I am willing to talk with you, too. I am just pointing out how, while talking you seem to....sigh....change the rules or principles as you go along, or, should I say, as the small talk continues. I'm sure if any coach with a winning resume had your side (RM) playin' like how Chelsea playing (and it's not just about wins and losses) even you mighta been callin' fuh change....and you would be free to discuss it with those fans that want coninuity. No sceene.
Exactly and that's what I doin'...just torkin' (writing)... I eh mean tuh tell allyuh doh vex with Ancelotti... just throwin' in a 2 cents...yuh could leave the 2 cents right dey or yuh could fret up yuhself about how ah shoulda do something better with the small change...
Me eh frettin' up myself, Padnah. I just arkskin' how it is sometimes yuh does give back different change on different days for de same price.
Post by: Blue on March 08, 2011, 01:49:45 PM
I agree with Kicker. The team (meaning the entire organization) has been poisoned. Its no secret, because this is a continued soap opera with Abramovic. He did it to Mourinho & he has done it again with Carlo. The only difference is it seems Abramovic is not willing to payout Carlo & Carlo too smart to walk. As for those who say he leaned heavily on Ray W. Well that is what TRUSTED staff is for. Now he has a staff that he did not select, so he knows that spies are in his mids, probably sinking him at every turn.
for the record, Carlo did not select Ray Wilkins either, he was brought in wid Scolari.
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 20, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
Back in the top 3 ;D
*bump*
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2011, 12:20:30 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 20, 2011, 12:23:04 PM
Big team is big team
Back in the top 3 ;D
*bump*
enjoy it while it last 8)
Post by: Blue on March 20, 2011, 02:02:07 PM
Ramires was great as well...and the place went berserk when he scored...the fella finally showed his Brazilian side :beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 20, 2011, 02:17:41 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2011, 02:42:42 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
Post by: Blue on March 20, 2011, 03:07:28 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
No need to allude to the lack of crosses, it is blatant. Our offense still isnt clicking Neither Ashley Cole nor Ivanovic got all the way to the touchline a single time in the game. The play would get to the edge of the box, Cole would handoff to Malouda, who would stall, and then pass back and try the same ting on the right side. Admittedly, Man City came and parked the bus, but this style of play has been going on for months now. Truth is we still aren't much better offensively than we were when we lost to Sunderland, and several players are still playing very poorly (Malouda, Essien, Drogba). On the other hand, the defensive players, particularly Terry and Luiz, are looking fantastic at the moment.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 20, 2011, 03:08:24 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
Chow haul yuh arse! Your Chelski people was callin Rameris a shithound. Yuh side playin better now so yuh back with yuh gloatin bullshite!
Post by: Blue on March 20, 2011, 03:10:41 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
Chow haul yuh arse! Your Chelski people was callin Rameris a shithound.
for the record, i criticised his performances, not his potential. and i was right, his early performances were $hit.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 20, 2011, 03:12:21 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
Chow haul yuh arse! Your Chelski people was callin Rameris a shithound.
for the record, i criticised his performances, not his potential. and i was right, his early performances were $hit.
Actually yuh should be addressin Chow not me since he is the one who named you not me!
Post by: Blue on March 20, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
Chow haul yuh arse! Your Chelski people was callin Rameris a shithound.
for the record, i criticised his performances, not his potential. and i was right, his early performances were $hit.
Actually yuh should be addressin Chow not me since he is the one who named you not me!
lol, i eh able, according to him, Mikel is our best player ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
Chow haul yuh arse! Your Chelski people was callin Rameris a shithound. Yuh side playin better now so yuh back with yuh gloatin bullshite!
...How am I gloting when I already coceded that we eh winnin' de title....and ah still eh quite satisfied with the team's overall play?. And besides, I eh go pick fight wit my fellow Chelsea faithful when it have manu mole and liverpool jackass to pick off?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
Nice game, nice goals, well "deserved" victory.......David Luiz is really a BOSS player. I like how he so comfortable on the ball, is very attack-minded and dishin' out the physicality as is needed for this league. Ramires goal was sweet, too and all de men dat was so quick to jump on he ass, I eh hearin' dem no more. He look like a damned "Brazilian" wit dah goal. FOH!
Well I was one of them and I glad to see that he has fit in and is showing why he was worth the transfer fee. Luiz is absolutely fantastic and i just love his composure in the back. No setta wild lunges or breathless chase downs, just cool dispossession of opponents with the necessary physical touch required in the EPL.
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do. But at this moment, I jes' glad the team is finding back its winning ways, even if they still haven't found their best form. The commentators today talked about one of the things I have been alluding to all along and that is the poor quality of our crosses. Until Drogba put that ball on Luiz' head, we wasn't getting many good quality crosses in on the penalty area and that included even one or two of Lampard's efforts. Our shooting and shot selection was still not of the best that would put opponents under serious pressure and these are two things that need to change quick and seriously, I eh know what happen to Malouda.
But I eh tryin' to piss on we tree points today....I jes' sayin'.....so...all that being said: "BIG side is BIG side!" :beermug:
No need to allude to the lack of crosses, it is blatant. Our offense still isnt clicking Neither Ashley Cole nor Ivanovic got all the way to the touchline a single time in the game. The play would get to the edge of the box, Cole would handoff to Malouda, who would stall, and then pass back and try the same ting on the right side. Admittedly, Man City came and parked the bus, but this style of play has been going on for months now. Truth is we still aren't much better offensively than we were when we lost to Sunderland, and several players are still playing very poorly (Malouda, Essien, Drogba). On the other hand, the defensive players, particularly Terry and Luiz, are looking fantastic at the moment.
Yeah, but yuh know, Ryan, form even before Ramires' arrival, all them issues wre just as blatant and I don't seem to recall you mentioning them too much, if at all.....I jes' find it was a little unfair to focus so much of your criticism towards one man, a newl naturaly arrived player, albeit, when so much else was wrong with the team. From day one, Ramires showed a work ethic and desire to do well (that would serve Anelka well) and if he having a bit of a hard time getting initiated into the team, to me, yuh hadda give de man a little time to gel and shake off his nerves and not be booing him or even as you said, applauding his substitution, especially at home. Funny thing is, though, none of the Chelsea faithful, not you or the fans at the Bridge, have been as harsh on Torres and he, until today, has done absolutely nothing so far.
Jes' for the record, eh....John Obi Mikel actually IS one of our best players, I never said he is the best. I am basing that on his "potential", which by now, should be obvious. He is a naturally gifted attacking midfielder, and that is the position he has always played (well) for Nigeria. If Chelsea want to have him as a defensive mid and put Lampard as the main attacking midfielder...then I guess his talents could never get appreciated at Stamford Bridge. :beermug:
Post by: Bakes on March 20, 2011, 07:26:36 PM
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do.
I musse living inside your head fella given this unhealthy obsession you having with me lately. If you could find one post where I ever question "how Brazilian he is or isn't" I would be surprised. The man didn't impress me and I still doh think he's anything special. He score a nice goal... good fuh him. I seem to recall Shevchenko scoring a nice goal or two while at Stamford Bridge, and of course he's gone on to legend status since... ent?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2011, 09:15:07 PM
Yeah we had a couple o' de Chelsea faithful dat was gettin' on he case, Ryan being his biggest and harshest critic, but I talkin' 'bout people like Giggsy and dah nex' ass bake and shark dat was talkin' ah setta imps about how "Brazilian" he is or isn't when in fact the man just needed a little time to get comfortable with the team, like ALL players do.
I musse living inside your head fella given this unhealthy obsession you having with me lately. If you could find one post where I ever question "how Brazilian he is or isn't" I would be surprised. The man didn't impress me and I still doh think he's anything special. He score a nice goal... good fuh him. I seem to recall Shevchenko scoring a nice goal or two while at Stamford Bridge, and of course he's gone on to legend status since... ent?
as per usual yuh flatering yuh self but I eh debatin' the consistency of the shit does come out yuh mouth. Is shit all the same. And makin' the comparison between Ramires and Shevchenko is proof of that. Maybe next time yuh attend a board meeting yuh should tell Abramovich and dem just who yuh really think they should buy. In de meantime, maybe your side full ah "something specials" will fare better in the Europa League against a side like Braga. I'm sure they have plenty players on dey side that eh "nothing special" either. According to your lofty opinion .
Post by: Deeks on March 25, 2011, 08:11:52 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/9427151.stm
Chelsea confirm pre-contract deal with Lucas Piazon
By Arindam Rej
Chelsea owner Abramovich has already spent heavily this season
Chelsea have agreed a pre-contract deal with Sao Paulo's Lucas Piazon but the attacking midfielder will not arrive at Stamford Bridge until January 2012.
Piazon, 17, cannot join until he turns 18 next January, meaning the transfer window in the same month is the earliest he can complete his move.
The Brazil youth international is "expected to join on a long-term deal", Chelsea said on Friday.
Chelsea have not disclosed the fee but reports have said it could reach £10m.
Yet to play for Sao Paulo, Piazon is currently with the Brazil Under-17 side at the South American Championship in Ecuador, where Brazil have won two and lost one of their opening three group matches.
Piazon has so far scored twice, a winning goal against Venezuela and in Brazil's defeat by Paraguay.
He had been linked with a switch to Juventus before Chelsea made their move.
Blues owner Roman Abramovich has already spent heavily on one Brazilian this season, signing defender David Luiz from Benfica for more than £20m in January, with Spaniard Fernando Torres also arriving at Stamford Bridge, for £50m.
As well as Luiz, midfielder Ramires and defender Alex are the other Brazilians in Chelsea's first-team squad.
Sao Paulo, the club that produced Kaka, have already seen former players succeed in the Premier League, including Juninho at Middlesbrough.
Juliano Belletti was at the Brazilian outfit from 1996 to 2002 before playing for Chelsea from 2007 to 2010.
Post by: mukumsplau on March 25, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
Post by: kicker on March 28, 2011, 08:48:19 PM
As for David Luiz - wow! He looks to have the full package of potential...with maturity he can be the next Lucio...(i.e. a complete and very skilled center back)...
Yeah ah real late...now come back from vacation ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 28, 2011, 10:18:33 PM
Ramires has been pretty playing well from long before he scored that gem. I wouldn't expect that sorta thing from him too often though- it's not his game. He started off really shaky and everyone got on his back... but he settled a while ago, and has been putting in a good shift. For Brazil I always found him inconsistent...and I guess it's the same for Chelsea, but he's getting better, and the fans are getting behind him...so it should only be upward for him...As a fan of Brazil I've been hoping for him to do well...Spot on, kicker. The man is settling in at the club and getting more and more comfortable in his role and was being overly criticized even when he was having good games but his critics seemed to have been focusing only on him...then here comes the forum jackass tryin' to make the dumbass comparison/analogy between him and Shevchenko when neither of the players nor the situations could be compared or analogized. As for David Luiz, I think he is going to be even better than Lucio. Everything about them seem similar: ability to read the game well, their physicality, comfort in going forward, etc.,.....one area I will have to give the edge to Luiz on is that he is a little more skillful with the ball. Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work and Luiz have a little more deftness of touch but dize awright. Perfect first-stopper.
As for David Luiz - wow! He looks to have the full package of potential...with maturity he can be the next Lucio...(i.e. a complete and very skilled center back)...
Yeah ah real late...now come back from vacation ;D
Post by: Deeks on March 28, 2011, 10:31:12 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 28, 2011, 10:43:50 PM
Ramires a damn good player. He just needed time to settle in the English game, especially at his position. He has pace and as long as he don't lose too many ball that is fine with me. He will be a main stay on Brazil team because of the type of player he is. Notice when he got sent of for that stupid second foul in SA, Holland was able to put much more pressure on Brazil. Nobody to hustle in the middle.
It wasn't him that got sent off, it was Felipe Melo.
Post by: FF on March 29, 2011, 07:23:14 AM
Ramires has been pretty playing well from long before he scored that gem. I wouldn't expect that sorta thing from him too often though- it's not his game. He started off really shaky and everyone got on his back... but he settled a while ago, and has been putting in a good shift. For Brazil I always found him inconsistent...and I guess it's the same for Chelsea, but he's getting better, and the fans are getting behind him...so it should only be upward for him...As a fan of Brazil I've been hoping for him to do well...
As for David Luiz - wow! He looks to have the full package of potential...with maturity he can be the next Lucio...(i.e. a complete and very skilled center back)...
Yeah ah real late...now come back from vacation ;D
is vacation yuh say dey? congratulations boss :beermug:
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 29, 2011, 07:29:23 AM
Yeah, ditto and welcome back. :beermug:Ramires has been pretty playing well from long before he scored that gem. I wouldn't expect that sorta thing from him too often though- it's not his game. He started off really shaky and everyone got on his back... but he settled a while ago, and has been putting in a good shift. For Brazil I always found him inconsistent...and I guess it's the same for Chelsea, but he's getting better, and the fans are getting behind him...so it should only be upward for him...As a fan of Brazil I've been hoping for him to do well...
As for David Luiz - wow! He looks to have the full package of potential...with maturity he can be the next Lucio...(i.e. a complete and very skilled center back)...
Yeah ah real late...now come back from vacation ;D
is vacation yuh say dey? congratulations boss :beermug:
But Luiz have a way to go before he reach Lucio status. His tackling nowhere near clean enough.
Post by: kicker on March 29, 2011, 08:33:00 AM
is vacation yuh say dey? congratulations boss :beermug:
;D Thanks hoss...
I was trying tuh fly under the radar a lil bit.
:beermug:
Post by: kicker on March 29, 2011, 08:41:33 AM
Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work
Disagree with this part... I think he just looks a little unnatural because of his height and lankyness...
Post by: 100% Barataria on March 29, 2011, 08:53:06 AM
is vacation yuh say dey? congratulations boss :beermug:
;D Thanks hoss...
I was trying tuh fly under the radar a lil bit.
:beermug:
Ah boy, like yuh tie someting, will send yuh a lil gift, it involves a ball :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 29, 2011, 09:54:09 AM
Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work
Disagree with this part... I think he just looks a little unnatural because of his height and lankyness...
I think we are agreeing on the same discription of him but I still think he could do with a little more deftness of touch (for comparison to David Luiz, only....he is just fine a player as he is.).... and besides, it have enough tall man does look more graceful with a ball at their feet....berbatov taller than him. But at least he ain't as lanky and unorthodox as Ramires...who is shorter than him. :D Hope yuh enjoyed yuh "vacation".
Post by: giggsy11 on March 29, 2011, 10:44:13 AM
Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work
Disagree with this part... I think he just looks a little unnatural because of his height and lankyness...
I think we are agreeing on the same discription of him but I still think he could do with a little more deftness of touch (for comparison to David Luiz, only....he is just fine a player as he is.).... and besides, it have enough tall man does look more graceful with a ball at their feet....berbatov taller than him. But at least he ain't as lanky and unorthodox as Ramires...who is shorter than him. :D Hope yuh enjoyed yuh "vacation".
He gettin send off before the season end!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 29, 2011, 11:32:27 AM
Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work
Disagree with this part... I think he just looks a little unnatural because of his height and lankyness...
I think we are agreeing on the same discription of him but I still think he could do with a little more deftness of touch (for comparison to David Luiz, only....he is just fine a player as he is.).... and besides, it have enough tall man does look more graceful with a ball at their feet....berbatov taller than him. But at least he ain't as lanky and unorthodox as Ramires...who is shorter than him. :D Hope yuh enjoyed yuh "vacation".
He gettin send off before the season end!
We coulda been making them same bets about half your team....in fact, if the referees did their jobs like they should, we still could make them bets about manure....and win REL munny.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 29, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work
Disagree with this part... I think he just looks a little unnatural because of his height and lankyness...
I think we are agreeing on the same discription of him but I still think he could do with a little more deftness of touch (for comparison to David Luiz, only....he is just fine a player as he is.).... and besides, it have enough tall man does look more graceful with a ball at their feet....berbatov taller than him. But at least he ain't as lanky and unorthodox as Ramires...who is shorter than him. :D Hope yuh enjoyed yuh "vacation".
He gettin send off before the season end!
We coulda been making them same bets about half your team....in fact, if the referees did their jobs like they should, we still could make them bets about manure....and win REL munny.
Oh Lord, here we go again!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 29, 2011, 01:25:53 PM
Lucio is a little unorhtodox and clumsy with his ball work
Disagree with this part... I think he just looks a little unnatural because of his height and lankyness...
I think we are agreeing on the same discription of him but I still think he could do with a little more deftness of touch (for comparison to David Luiz, only....he is just fine a player as he is.).... and besides, it have enough tall man does look more graceful with a ball at their feet....berbatov taller than him. But at least he ain't as lanky and unorthodox as Ramires...who is shorter than him. :D Hope yuh enjoyed yuh "vacation".
He gettin send off before the season end!
We coulda been making them same bets about half your team....in fact, if the referees did their jobs like they should, we still could make them bets about manure....and win REL munny.
Oh Lord, here we go again!
Yeah, here we go again in trute! How in de world you go be a manu fan worryin' 'bout other teams' players gettin' red cards? Worry 'bout yuh own setta butchers. :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 08:09:36 AM
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Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
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Jones ruffin dem Chelski defenders up! He lookin interested today!
Post by: 100% Barataria on April 02, 2011, 08:50:02 AM
1-1
Jones ruffin dem Chelski defenders up! He lookin interested today!
Yeah, he's having a good game
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Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 06, 2011, 04:13:32 PM
According to wenger "football lost today." :devil:Doh really think Chelsea did too much wrong today, except for the chupid defending on Rooney goal. Carrick pass was a beauty doh. Chelski create more than enough chances but their strikers misfiring. Of course there was the penalty (or maybe penalties) they weren't given. The only thing they missing is a in form striker. But they better get it back quick!
Post by: elan on April 06, 2011, 05:22:01 PM
According to wenger "football lost today." :devil:Doh really think Chelsea did too much wrong today, except for the chupid defending on Rooney goal. Carrick pass was a beauty doh. Chelski create more than enough chances but their strikers misfiring. Of course there was the penalty (or maybe penalties) they weren't given. The only thing they missing is a in form striker. But they better get it back quick!
That goal Man United score was a beauty cannot argue with that. :applause:
What about Drogba destroying Evra and that Brazil boy going and coming.
Post by: sammy on April 06, 2011, 05:40:30 PM
According to wenger "football lost today." :devil:Doh really think Chelsea did too much wrong today, except for the chupid defending on Rooney goal. Carrick pass was a beauty doh. Chelski create more than enough chances but their strikers misfiring. Of course there was the penalty (or maybe penalties) they weren't given. The only thing they missing is a in form striker. But they better get it back quick!
That goal Man United score was a beauty cannot argue with that. :applause:
What about Drogba destroying Evra and that Brazil boy going and coming.
That was maddness, i feel they leave on torres hoping he woulda justify them buying him.
Drogba was a terror today - they real mistreating dat soldier ...
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 06, 2011, 06:59:57 PM
Trying to keep Drogba and Torres both happy is hurting Chelsea. Look how many more chances they created when they went 433 after taking off Zhirkov and Drogba? The only mistake after that was playing Mikel who killed their forward momentum. They waited too long to switch to their best formation. I don't think United coulda handle that pressure forever.According to wenger "football lost today." :devil:Doh really think Chelsea did too much wrong today, except for the chupid defending on Rooney goal. Carrick pass was a beauty doh. Chelski create more than enough chances but their strikers misfiring. Of course there was the penalty (or maybe penalties) they weren't given. The only thing they missing is a in form striker. But they better get it back quick!
That goal Man United score was a beauty cannot argue with that. :applause:
What about Drogba destroying Evra and that Brazil boy going and coming.
That was maddness, i feel they leave on torres hoping he woulda justify them buying him.
Drogba was a terror today - they real mistreating dat soldier ...
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 07, 2011, 01:51:12 AM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 07, 2011, 05:59:34 AM
dansteel, I cyah see how Mikel could be a momentum killer when Chelsea is and always has been a team that is (frustratingly, for its fans) methodical in going forward, and United knows this which is why they were happy to sit back and absorb all the pressure. I do agree that we need our strikers to find their form, something I've been lamenting for the majority of the season when others were more willing to pin our poor form on Mikel and ramires. Well, the poor finishing continues to haunt us and goals are what takes the pressure off the shoulders of our players from the midfield to the GK and places it squarely on the shoulders of the opponents. I dunno why Ancelotti treatin' Drogba the way ferguson treatin' Berbatov.....at least the man fillin' een fuh Berba gettin' the results to justify that move. I ain't mad at Torres, the man was out of form before Chelsea buy him and I have faith that he will recover, but Carlo don't need to keep treatin' Drogba so. That being said, Van der Saar came up big for manu again today while Bosingwa seem to have been in two minds as to whether he should play carrick's cross or do something about giggs....choose ONE!My point about Mikel was that Chelsea needed to be more dynamic getting the ball forward. Mikel circulates the ball around midfield but they needed a player with more forward passing ability, which I don't think Chelsea really has in central midfield. Getting the ball forward methodically only gives United the chance to get their defence organised, and they are unbeatable when they do that, as my side repeatedly finds out when we play them.
Post by: Blue on April 07, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
My Chelsea ratings:
Cech - 6 - had no chance with the goal, was untroubled otherwise.
Cole - 7.5 - impressive as always
Terry - 6.5 - decent
Ivanovic - 6 - looked decent going forward in open play, was more anonymous than usual on set pieces. ok defensively
Bosingwa - 5.5 - skinned by Giggs for the goal (not much he could do about it). started brightly, but although he saw alot of the ball his crosses were poor quality
Zhirkov - 6 - not really sure what he offered. Was probably only on the pitch because of how bad Malouda's been recently.
Essien - 6 - his poor season continues, guilty of far too much lateral passing. one decent run into the box which came to nothing.
Lampard - 6 - not a great performance, didnt do enough to provide the frontmen with decent through balls
Ramires - 7 - I was impressed again by Ramires. A+ for effort as usual. Got into some good positions but never got the passes from his teammates that his movement deserved.
Drogba - 6.5 - a bit better than recent performances, but he could have been alot better. Diving and sulking all game, did alot of dribbling out wide that was never gonna lead to anything. The crowd weren't particularly upset when he was replaced by Anelka.
Torres - 6.5 - contrary to press reports, I think he looked pretty good yesterday. He definitely was up for it, he was constantly trying to get the ball and talking to Drogba about how they should be positioning themselves. Did not get enough service yesterday. He was often left waiting in the box while Drogba/Essien/Lampard slowed up the play and recycled the ball across the midfield.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 08, 2011, 02:23:31 AM
dansteel, I cyah see how Mikel could be a momentum killer when Chelsea is and always has been a team that is (frustratingly, for its fans) methodical in going forward, and United knows this which is why they were happy to sit back and absorb all the pressure. I do agree that we need our strikers to find their form, something I've been lamenting for the majority of the season when others were more willing to pin our poor form on Mikel and ramires. Well, the poor finishing continues to haunt us and goals are what takes the pressure off the shoulders of our players from the midfield to the GK and places it squarely on the shoulders of the opponents. I dunno why Ancelotti treatin' Drogba the way ferguson treatin' Berbatov.....at least the man fillin' een fuh Berba gettin' the results to justify that move. I ain't mad at Torres, the man was out of form before Chelsea buy him and I have faith that he will recover, but Carlo don't need to keep treatin' Drogba so. That being said, Van der Saar came up big for manu again today while Bosingwa seem to have been in two minds as to whether he should play carrick's cross or do something about giggs....choose ONE!My point about Mikel was that Chelsea needed to be more dynamic getting the ball forward. Mikel circulates the ball around midfield but they needed a player with more forward passing ability, which I don't think Chelsea really has in central midfield. Getting the ball forward methodically only gives United the chance to get their defence organised, and they are unbeatable when they do that, as my side repeatedly finds out when we play them.
yeah, but when you say we don't particularly have anybody "dynamic" in CM with a forward mentality, it kinda supports what I said about our team always being a more methodical side, doesn't it? I have lamented in the past and been frustrated by our team's unwillingness to attack with pace and purpose, even when on the counter. We only seem to do that (not unlike yesterday) when we are desperately desperate for draw or victory. I gladly accept that I am the lone supporter of Mikel in more of an attacking, playmaking role but that is because I base it on his potential, possbly being one of very few Chelsea fans that have seen with my own two eyes what he is capable of. Both he and Chlelsea seem quite comfortable in keeping him in the role they have him in and he seems very reluctant to go bold and assert his talent. Meanwhile, the one player we do have (Benayoun) that has that diret and forceful attitute in going forward is sidelined....and his role is more off the ball and goal scoring anyway. Lampard is not that person, (never was, IMHO) and no longer seems to bring what value he did always bring to the team. Josh McEachran seems to be that (future) player and maybe the sielfishness that Daniel Sturridge was being criticized for woulda come in handy yesterday because that selfishness had him scoring GOALS quite early and quite often when he first got to Bolton. I love his hunger/selfishness and we could really do with some of it right now.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 08, 2011, 07:44:40 AM
dansteel, I cyah see how Mikel could be a momentum killer when Chelsea is and always has been a team that is (frustratingly, for its fans) methodical in going forward, and United knows this which is why they were happy to sit back and absorb all the pressure. I do agree that we need our strikers to find their form, something I've been lamenting for the majority of the season when others were more willing to pin our poor form on Mikel and ramires. Well, the poor finishing continues to haunt us and goals are what takes the pressure off the shoulders of our players from the midfield to the GK and places it squarely on the shoulders of the opponents. I dunno why Ancelotti treatin' Drogba the way ferguson treatin' Berbatov.....at least the man fillin' een fuh Berba gettin' the results to justify that move. I ain't mad at Torres, the man was out of form before Chelsea buy him and I have faith that he will recover, but Carlo don't need to keep treatin' Drogba so. That being said, Van der Saar came up big for manu again today while Bosingwa seem to have been in two minds as to whether he should play carrick's cross or do something about giggs....choose ONE!My point about Mikel was that Chelsea needed to be more dynamic getting the ball forward. Mikel circulates the ball around midfield but they needed a player with more forward passing ability, which I don't think Chelsea really has in central midfield. Getting the ball forward methodically only gives United the chance to get their defence organised, and they are unbeatable when they do that, as my side repeatedly finds out when we play them.
yeah, but when you say we don't particularly have anybody "dynamic" in CM with a forward mentality, it kinda supports what I said about our team always being a more methodical side, doesn't it? I have lamented in the past and been frustrated by our team's unwillingness to attack with pace and purpose, even when on the counter. We only seem to do that (not unlike yesterday) when we are desperately desperate for draw or victory. I gladly accept that I am the lone supporter of Mikel in more of an attacking, playmaking role but that is because I base it on his potential, possbly being one of very few Chelsea fans that have seen with my own two eyes what he is capable of. Both he and Chlelsea seem quite comfortable in keeping him in the role they have him in and he seems very reluctant to go bold and assert his talent. Meanwhile, the one player we do have (Benayoun) that has that diret and forceful attitute in going forward is sidelined....and his role is more off the ball and goal scoring anyway. Lampard is not that person, (never was, IMHO) and no longer seems to bring what value he did always bring to the team. Josh McEachran seems to be that (future) player and maybe the sielfishness that Daniel Sturridge was being criticized for woulda come in handy yesterday because that selfishness had him scoring GOALS quite early and quite often when he first got to Bolton. I love his hunger/selfishness and we could really do with some of it right now.
Post by: Blue on April 08, 2011, 05:07:47 PM
dansteel, I cyah see how Mikel could be a momentum killer when Chelsea is and always has been a team that is (frustratingly, for its fans) methodical in going forward, and United knows this which is why they were happy to sit back and absorb all the pressure. I do agree that we need our strikers to find their form, something I've been lamenting for the majority of the season when others were more willing to pin our poor form on Mikel and ramires. Well, the poor finishing continues to haunt us and goals are what takes the pressure off the shoulders of our players from the midfield to the GK and places it squarely on the shoulders of the opponents. I dunno why Ancelotti treatin' Drogba the way ferguson treatin' Berbatov.....at least the man fillin' een fuh Berba gettin' the results to justify that move. I ain't mad at Torres, the man was out of form before Chelsea buy him and I have faith that he will recover, but Carlo don't need to keep treatin' Drogba so. That being said, Van der Saar came up big for manu again today while Bosingwa seem to have been in two minds as to whether he should play carrick's cross or do something about giggs....choose ONE!My point about Mikel was that Chelsea needed to be more dynamic getting the ball forward. Mikel circulates the ball around midfield but they needed a player with more forward passing ability, which I don't think Chelsea really has in central midfield. Getting the ball forward methodically only gives United the chance to get their defence organised, and they are unbeatable when they do that, as my side repeatedly finds out when we play them.
yeah, but when you say we don't particularly have anybody "dynamic" in CM with a forward mentality, it kinda supports what I said about our team always being a more methodical side, doesn't it? I have lamented in the past and been frustrated by our team's unwillingness to attack with pace and purpose, even when on the counter. We only seem to do that (not unlike yesterday) when we are desperately desperate for draw or victory. I gladly accept that I am the lone supporter of Mikel in more of an attacking, playmaking role but that is because I base it on his potential, possbly being one of very few Chelsea fans that have seen with my own two eyes what he is capable of. Both he and Chlelsea seem quite comfortable in keeping him in the role they have him in and he seems very reluctant to go bold and assert his talent. Meanwhile, the one player we do have (Benayoun) that has that diret and forceful attitute in going forward is sidelined....and his role is more off the ball and goal scoring anyway. Lampard is not that person, (never was, IMHO) and no longer seems to bring what value he did always bring to the team. Josh McEachran seems to be that (future) player and maybe the sielfishness that Daniel Sturridge was being criticized for woulda come in handy yesterday because that selfishness had him scoring GOALS quite early and quite often when he first got to Bolton. I love his hunger/selfishness and we could really do with some of it right now.
Benayoun is back. He played for Israel last week and was on de bench on Wednesday. He will probably get a sweat at some point tomorrow.
Sturridge - check de stats, he scores almost exclusively against mediocre opposition. He is too predictably selfish to be any good against a big team at present. There is no chance he would have been any use against Man U (in fact he was useless when Bolton played Man U the other day)
McEachran - to date, Chelsea have used him at the base of the diamond (ie Mikel's position). Most fans would consider him to be a vast improvement on Mikel.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 08, 2011, 08:36:33 PM
Benayoun is back. He played for Israel last week and was on de bench on Wednesday. He will probably get a sweat at some point tomorrow.
Sturridge - check de stats, he scores almost exclusively against mediocre opposition. He is too predictably selfish to be any good against a big team at present. There is no chance he would have been any use against Man U (in fact he was useless when Bolton played Man U the other day)
McEachran - to date, Chelsea have used him at the base of the diamond (ie Mikel's position). Most fans would consider him to be a vast improvement on Mikel.
Yeah, I had seen on the team's website lately that he had recovered and was up for reserve duty but I had no idea he was on the bench this week. Good news but I still will give him time to gel back into the team comin' off that nasty injury.
No offence, but I eh no "stats" man so I eh checkin' none on Sturridge. However, if what they are saying is as you say, then, hell, we have a bunch of marquee players on the squad who not even scoring against mediocre teams. We coulda well do with his selfishness against Stoke, Sunderland, Aston Villa, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. (hummuch points is dat? :-\) Nor would I use an ineffective game against manu, especially playing for Bolton, as an indictment of him. Who, besides David Luiz, Petr Cech and a handful of others, has looked good for us against any of the upper echelon teams this season?
I ain't surprised that the majority of the fans like McEacheran more than Mikel. They are British. Plus, most Chelsea fans don't really appreciate Mikel's ability and it don't seem like they ever will, so that is no big deal to me. Go and check Mikel's stats for Nigeria (when he ain't being suspended by the federation) and maybe you might find it in your heart to appreciate his potential. He is one of the main men pullin' the strings in their attack. Chelsea (and their fans) need to wake up and smell the coffee. Lampard, as much as I like him, is not the man to be leading this attack. He should be our main dead-ball specialist, and the man that can revert back to his shooting of 3 seasons ago. Alot of our other players, like Essien and Bosingwa are having a mediocre season, but I ain't gettin' into that right now. Lewwe see how the next week plays out. :beermug:
Post by: Blue on April 09, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Post by: Fantastic on April 09, 2011, 09:20:42 AM
Post by: TriniCana on April 09, 2011, 10:06:53 AM
Post by: Blue on April 09, 2011, 11:08:57 AM
How that blowout going Ryan? :devil: :devil:
lol, not what i was expecting. Another inadequate performance by us. We were probably unlucky to end up wid only 1 goal...it woulda been more if the players didn't spend the last 25 minutes trying to tee up Torres - dat fella has no luck whatsoever at the moment.
Even so, Wigan are an awful side and we should have done much better. They only have 3 premiership class players - NZogbia, Rodallega and Figueroa - the rest are substandard. The manager inexplicably subbed NZogbia and Rodallega early in the second half and from then on they had no chance of scoring.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 12, 2011, 08:35:05 AM
The Question: What has gone wrong for Fernando Torres at Chelsea?
The Spaniard looks like a vanity signing for Roman Abramovich and is destined to struggle unless he is deployed as a lone striker
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/12/the-question-fernando-torres-chelsea
Fernando Torres is proving to be an expensive problem at Chelsea. Football is not a predictable game. A team can have 20 chances and still lose to a side that musters only one. All a coach can do is manipulate the percentages as best he can in his favour. With that caveat in mind, though, a prediction – in the next decade, no side will win a major international tournament playing an orthodox 4-4-2.
When a good side play with three central midfielders, whether in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 (or either of their close cousins, 4‑2‑1‑3 and 4-1-2-3), they will almost inevitably dominate possession against a side playing only two central midfielders. The old defence of a high offside line simply is not as effective as it used to be thanks to the liberalisation of the rule.
Even if the three do not dominate possession, fielding only two central midfelders leaves a side vulnerable if one of those central players pushes forward, a problem that dogged Manchester United in European competition for much of the late 1990s (the defeats to Borussia Dortmund in 1997, Monaco in 1998 and Real Madrid in 2000; the success of 1999 might have been less fraught with a more cautious approach), and could be glimpsed again in the nervy final minutes of the last-16 victory over Marseille.
It was notable that in the first leg of the Champions League quarter-final, as soon as Chelsea switched from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3, so too did Manchester United, matching them shape-for-shape rather than offering numerical superiority in the centre. Nonetheless, Chelsea had much their best spell in that final 20 minutes. Even Fernando Torres looked sharper, drawing a superb save from Edwin van der Sar with a header back across goal, and flicking the ball on for Ramires leading to the incident in which Patrice Evra got away with a foul on the Brazilian on the 18-yard line. This raises the question of why Chelsea have switched to a 4-4-2.
The lesson of Vienna
One of the oddities of Euro 2008 was that Spain played their best football without their top scorer. David Villa got five goals in Spain's first four games, but it was after he was injured 34 minutes into the semi-final against Russia that Spain produced their best stuff. Villa was replaced by Cesc Fábregas, and the extra man in midfield – a switch from 4-1-3-2 to 4-1-4-1 – allowed Spain to pen in Russia's full-backs, Alexander Anyukov and Yuri Zhirkov, who had looked threatening in the opening stages. The change also allowed Torres to operate as a lone forward. He promptly produced his best performance of a tournament in which he had begun to draw criticism as Spain won 3-0, and topped that with his display against Germany in the final.
The lesson seemed clear: Torres is at his best operating alone. He is quick, and so adept on the counterattack, he offers enough physical presence to hold the ball up, and he is intelligent enough in his use of the ball to bring runners from deep into play. He seemed at the time the model of a modern centre-forward. That was how he was used most successfully at Liverpool, which raises the question of why, since he joined Chelsea, he has so persistently been used in a 4-4-2.
Other issues
The formation is not the only problem, clearly. Football is littered with examples of forwards – Ronaldo, Alan Shearer, Michael Owen – who have lost a fraction of pace after a major operation. It is to be hoped that Torres, now 27, is not one of them, but he is discernibly slower than he was 18 months ago. With the European Championship, the Confederations Cup and the World Cup, it is 2007 since he had a proper summer break. Others in the Spain squad, of course, have been subjected to a similarly hectic schedule (although the intensity of the Premier League probably makes those based in England more prone to fatigue), but the combination of tiredness and injury is a debilitating combination – as Andriy Shevchenko found in his days at Chelsea.
Then there is the great intangible of confidence. Coming back from his operation, Torres had a poor World Cup, which perhaps made him doubt his recovery. He needed to return to a calm, stable club where he could feel his way back in to form, but instead he went back to a Liverpool whose ownership was being decided in the courts and where a lame-duck manager was being hammered by fans and players alike. Whatever you think of the rights and wrongs of Torres leaving Anfield, the environment was not helpful to a player in need of reassurance. He was out of form but as in previous seasons, he was expected to be one of the two or three players to drag the team to respectability.
Moving to Chelsea has only increased the pressure. He has again joined a club scrabbling for form, only this time he has done so with the expectation that a £50m price-tag brings, and without any of the goodwill brought by memories of past performances. The journalist Patrick Barclay raised the suggestion last weekend that Torres may prove to be the worst transfer in the history of football and while it would be absurd to write him off this early, that could easily turn out to be the case. The current holder of that title is probably Shevchenko – 47 largely desultory appearances for Chelsea after a £30m move – which suggests lessons have not been learned.
Mourinho's ghost
Money does not bring wisdom. Centre-forwards are glamorous and exciting, and it is understandable that a man who can effectively buy what he wants should acquire too many. Shevchenko and Torres, though, have become to Abramovich what the gold taps were to Saddam Hussein. Since Mourinho's time, Chelsea's squad have been geared to play 4-1-2-3 – something that is particularly true of the midfield. With a holding player, Frank Lampard and Michael Essien have licence to get forward and provide a goal threat from deep.
There has been a slight evolution, in that Mourinho preferred his full-backs to sit relatively deep and operated with genuine wide-forwards in Arjen Robben and Damien Duff, while more modern incarnations have had Nicolas Anelka playing half-wide on the right and the muscular presence of Florent Malouda on the left with much of the width provided by the full-backs. The basic shape, though, remains the same. Luiz Felipe Scolari and Ancelotti have both attempted to change formation; one was ousted and one ended up going back to 4-1-2-3. Perhaps Avram Grant did little management in getting Chelsea to the 2008 Champions League final, but at least he had the wit not to change a shape that worked.
Torres's arrival, though, seems to have brought an edict that Ancelotti must play him and either Didier Drogba or Anelka in the biggest games. That does not suit either forward, and 4-4-2 does not suit the rest of the squad. Lampard needs a holder behind him to be able to make the forward runs that have brought him so many goals. Whether Malouda or Zhirkov plays on the left, with Ramires shuttling on the right, there is a dearth of creative spark. Ancelotti, quite rightly, attacked those players who were trying to win Saturday's game against Wigan single-handedly and called for greater "teamwork", but his real problem, surely, is that the team does not work.
Yes, Torres is clearly anxious to make an impression, score his first goal for the club and stop the clock on his barren period, but even if the whole squad are in form, it is hard to see how the present squad can play fluently in a 4-4-2 (and even if they do, they would probably be too open to win a major competition).
Perhaps the logic is that, at 32, Drogba is nearing the end of his career – although he was a later starter in professional football which may prolong his effectiveness – and Torres is seen as his long-term replacement. Even then, though, as this analysis by Miguel Delaney highlights, Chelsea may not have the players to get the best out of him. Torres is not a Drogba figure who will win high balls; he thrives on through balls and low crosses (and note how his few good moments on Saturday were related to the involvement of Yossi Benayoun). Perhaps Torres is only the first of a flock of signings, but if so it seems almost cruel to have exposed him before the support structure is in place.
If the intention is to build a new team around Torres, it seems a remarkable gamble given there is no guarantee he will fully recover the form of 18 months ago. And if the intention was for Torres to replace Drogba, of course, there should be no compulsion to play him. He could come off the bench, slowly feeling his way into the role he would occupy next season. All of which suggests that Torres is, like Shevchenko, at least in part a vanity signing by Abramovich. That is not good for the player, and it is not good for Chelsea.
Post by: elan on April 12, 2011, 01:30:19 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 12, 2011, 02:13:40 PM
down to ten men? miracle for all yuh to go through
aye mango
when life throws you vinegar and salt, do you make chow? :rotfl:
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
Post by: Observer on April 12, 2011, 02:23:55 PM
Buy buy buy.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 02:27:34 PM
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 12, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
why they acting like its a done deal?
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 12, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
i just curious but has manu actually won anything yet this season?
why they acting like its a done deal?
Post by: triniairman on April 12, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
i just curious, but has manu actually won anything yet this season?What yuh need to worry about, is if allure having another trophy less season. We golden for atleast one. I am that confident in a winning team.
why they acting like its a done deal?
Post by: sammy on April 12, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
Dat is just Man U fans being Man U fans.i just curious but has manu actually won anything yet this season?
why they acting like its a done deal?
i thought that u guys would've done like u team and taken the day off?
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 12, 2011, 06:14:53 PM
Dat is just Man U fans being Man U fans.i just curious but has manu actually won anything yet this season?
why they acting like its a done deal?
i thought that u guys would've done like u team and taken the day off?
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 12, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
Post by: Blue on April 12, 2011, 06:22:49 PM
Moving on....next season's kit out in a few weeks ;D
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/12/article-1302620324447-0B98043800000578-687992_636x300.jpg)
Post by: D.H.W on April 12, 2011, 06:24:41 PM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 12, 2011, 06:37:31 PM
Post by: MEP on April 12, 2011, 07:01:31 PM
alyuh have some change to get with torres deal
Like about 49, 999,999.
Post by: Bourbon on April 12, 2011, 07:05:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pU29kPJiMw
Post by: D.H.W on April 12, 2011, 07:44:17 PM
:whistling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pU29kPJiMw
oh goorrrrd :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2011, 08:11:35 PM
Chelsea will never win a Champions League without a creator. Last season the only difference between Chelsea and Inter was Wesley Sneijder.
They also need wingers. ,
Post by: D.H.W on April 12, 2011, 08:12:25 PM
Chelsea will never win a Champions League without a creator. Last season the only difference between Chelsea and Inter was Wesley Sneijder.
They also need wingers. ,
and a new owner
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 12, 2011, 09:51:23 PM
Post by: elan on April 12, 2011, 09:56:25 PM
David Blaine's 40 day world record for doing nothing in a box has been broken by Fernando Torres!
Post by: Blue on April 13, 2011, 12:45:10 AM
:whistling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pU29kPJiMw
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: elan on April 13, 2011, 09:33:52 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 13, 2011, 09:44:39 AM
Post by: injunchile on April 13, 2011, 10:42:52 AM
Post by: lefty on April 13, 2011, 10:48:21 AM
Mango Chow- I agree with you totally. Something happened to this team when Ray was sacked. BBC has an article today and I agree that changing the coach is not the answer. Somehow Michael, Anelka , Kalo Lampard maybe have to go. Chelsea need new blood and someone to partner Torres as I believe Drogba is going to ride out.
been sayin dat from d beginning, although they won the first couple or so games after he left they didn't look right and never looked right since ???
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 13, 2011, 11:10:43 AM
Post by: dinho on April 13, 2011, 12:49:04 PM
Lemme stop in to say a few things..
Torres
While i didn't ask for it in the first place, contrary to most I still think Torres was an excellent buy; not for the present, but for the medium - long term future of the club. Before he arrived, there was a lack of options in the forward line with Drogba and Anelka off form and Kalou and Sturridge not stepping up when given opportunities. His signing brought a much needed competition for places.
Furthermore, the man is a proven EPL quality striker. You can buy Zlatan, Messi or Eto'o and still not have the guarantee that they can deliver given the nature of the EPL. With Torres, you get a striker who, when fully fit and on form, gives you that guarantee. He is also only 26 which means his best years are ahead of him.
The man is clearly not fully fit and clearly not in form and I never expected his signing to reap instant rewards as most January buys need time to mesh into the squad (Evra and Vidic can attest). What was wrong was to throw him in immediately and put him under pressure for instant returns instead of bedding the man in over the course of a few games. Right now Torres need rest, a beach and a preseason, then watch him come vack firing on all cylinders next year.
*Hadda admit though I did real laugh at the joke about Torres breaking David Blain's record for doing nothing in a box, and the one about him costing a whole lot more than the Fulham Michael Jackson statue.
Ancelotti
He got it spectacularly wrong across 2 legs and this is just a culmination of questionable decision making over personnel throughout the course of the entire season. It was wrong to sub Drogba in the 1st leg when he was the only man causing level worries in the Man Utd back line. It was criminally wrong to keep the most potent, powerful weapon in the Chelsea front line on the bench for the 2nd leg to start a player woefully out of form. Notwithstanding he may have a mandate to start Torres (more on this later), Drogba should be the first name on the team sheet. Run a simple stat on Chelsea Shots on Target with and without Drogba in the lineup and it should have been the simplest of decisions.
I in two minds on whether I think its time for him to go. On the one hand I feeling lil sorry for him, and tempted like many to absolve him from responsibility and place the blame squarely at Roman's feet. While this is not without merit, strictly focusing his managerial decision making his tactics have not been at the level I expect. I'll sum it up with these questions I have:
- How many times has Ancelotti made a tactical switch to change the course of a game when Chelsea's back have been against the wall.
- Why was he so easily outcoached by Mourinho in last year's CL QF?
- How many counter-attacking/breakaway goals have Chelsea scored this season.
- What has he done to correct the obvious flaw of a lack of speed and urgency in Chelsea's build up play.
- Whats with the slackness brooding in the side and in training that some players have alluded too.
- Why are his subs so baffling? Off the top of my head I remember Sturridge/McEachran when losing to Man City last November, subbing off Mikel instead of Ramires against Arsenal, subbing off Drogba at the most inopportune times. A persistent faith in Anelka and Kalou among other scratch-yuh-head decisions.
- Which players have improved during Ancelotti's tenure? Kalou should be a 10-15 goal per season striker but he is regressing badly. Sturridge and Kakuta were going nowhere before their loan spells. These 3 players should have been the ones to pick up the slack and carry the team through the injury/form issues yet dem men going nowhere and the coach has to take some responsibility for that.
Personnel
Players have been carrying a number of issues throughout the season and it was all too evident yesterday. Drogba was dealing with malaria. Lampard is not fully recovered, he looks cumbersome and also timid to shoot. The ball rolled across yesterday would have been slammed in last season, same with the one he had cleared off the line in the first leg. Essien has not been right for a long time and Torres is not fully fit.
I seriously think its time for Anelka to move on now, he continuously disappoints in the biggest fixtures and slows up the play too much. And Malouda like he want to lose his brownie points too with the way his game has fallen off since the start of the year.
Abramovich
It too obvious that he dictated that the team is Torres and any 10.
Not sure what it will take for this man to realize that he has to sit back and leave the football decision making to the people who know about football. I don't know what was behind the Wilkins firing but unless it was some kinda mudda talk pass, there is no way to justify that or ignore the fact that it had a devastating impact on the course of the season.
Also, the Torres signing while not so much as bad as the Ballack/Shevchenko signings, lacked a proper plan forward on how to integrate him into the team and put Ancelotti in a tough situation.
Hands down, Abramovich is one of the principle reasons for the failures of the team this season.
The way forward...
As much as I am against this, I suspect in the off-season that the club will sell Drogba, buy wingers and a creative mid and build the team around Torres. I don't see a way that these two can work together going forward, and as much as I don't want to see Drogba go I know there is no turning back now. Even if he left on his own volition I wouldnt blame him the way he was treated in the last few months.
That said the defense is set. The Luiz signing was an excellent piece of business because it gives cover in central defence (Terry/Alex/Luiz/Ivan), it gives a succession plan for an ageing Terry and it gives cover at right back (Ivan/Luiz).
I'd like to see Sturridge come back and get alot more opportunities, also Kakuta as an option on the left.
I'd like to see a couple wingers come in to provide much needed width and a creative mid to succeed Lampard long term (Lucas Piazon may be just that based on what I saw for Brazil). Other than that, I think Anelka, Kalou, Ferreira and Bosingwa need to buss it.
Daiz it dey for me ah gone again.. lastly to the resident Man U fans just remember... today you might be the dog, but tomorrow ah guarantee yuh go be de forkin hydrant. Barcelona bussing allyuh ass anyhow if Schalke don't do it first.
Laters...
Post by: Daft Trini on April 13, 2011, 01:06:33 PM
April 13, 2011
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By ESPNsoccernet staff
Carlo Ancelotti admitted his future at Chelsea is out of his hands and that starting misfiring £50 million striker Fernando Torres against Manchester United may have been a mistake.
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United marched on to the Champions League semi-finals with a 3-1 aggregate win after goals from Javier Hernandez and Park Ji-sung at Old Trafford made Didier Drogba's goal redundant.
Ancelotti gambled by starting Torres and leaving Drogba on the bench, even though Torres had not scored in 817 minutes and 13 matches for club and country. Torres suffered a torrid first 45 minutes and was replaced at half-time by Drogba, who scored late in the second half.
When asked if it had been a mistake to start with Torres, Ancelotti said: "Maybe. Could be. I told you a lot of times this season I wanted to start with Fernando for this kind of game, these type of tactics.
"Didier played well in the second half. I wanted to put more pressure up front because we needed to score. Didier was fresh and he could use his power up front. This was the reason I took out Fernando.''
United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, however, was in no doubt that it was the huge fee Chelsea splashed out for Torres in January which forced Ancelotti's hand.
Ferguson said: "A lot of people thought Drogba would play. I thought having signed Torres for the money they did they had to play him. I wasn't 100% sure but I couldn't see how they could leave Torres out.''
Ferguson, however, insisted he was not criticising Chelsea for signing Torres.
"They had the opportunity to sign Torres and I don't think anyone would have turned it down,'' Ferguson said. "Everyone said at the time it was fantastic business. You can't criticise him (Ancelotti) for that, it was a good signing. It isn't working at the moment but he is a young man and there are other seasons ahead.''
Ancelotti will now be under pressure to make sure Chelsea win Premier League games to qualify for the Champions League again.
He said: "We have to look forward. We have games to play and to win if possible because obviously we want to play the Champions League the next season.''
On his own future Ancelotti said: "I'm not concerned. I have to work and try to do my best, It is not my decision to stay or not to stay here.''
Post by: D.H.W on April 13, 2011, 01:11:34 PM
Congratulations to Man United, the better team won over the 2 legs.. (*one slow clap* :yawning:)
Daiz it dey for me ah gone again.. lastly to the resident Man U fans just remember... today you might be the dog, but tomorrow ah guarantee yuh go be de forkin hydrant. Barcelona bussing allyuh ass anyhow if Schalke don't do it first.
Laters...
Lordo look dinho :o , long time i aint hear from the original hater 8)
Post by: Blue on April 13, 2011, 01:33:08 PM
Mango Chow- I agree with you totally. Something happened to this team when Ray was sacked. BBC has an article today and I agree that changing the coach is not the answer. Somehow Michael, Anelka , Kalo Lampard maybe have to go. Chelsea need new blood and someone to partner Torres as I believe Drogba is going to ride out.
been sayin dat from d beginning, although they won the first couple or so games after he left they didn't look right and never looked right since ???
Not true. as a man who watches pretty much every Chelsea game, i cud confidently say we were poor even before Wilkins left. We were poor since the Stoke home game (i.e. second home game of the season) when Lampard went off injured. We kept winning, which is why the media didnt pick up on how badly we were playing (media reports are based entirely on results, they dont look at performance). But the Sunderland result, and everything that followed, was inevitable. I was at the Fulham game (when Wilkins was still on the touchline) and we were terrible that night. We were just as bad offensively a few days later, but a few defensive slip ups and Sunderland made us pay.
What changed?
1. Lampard got injured.
2. Essien was already out injured, and has not fully recovered
3. Drogba played through the World Cup injured (broken arm, hernia) and then got malaria.
4. Malouda is a shadow of his former self.
5. The squad was too small and the same players carrying injuries were being forced to play too soon / too often.
All our problems are offensive. We still have a great defence.
If it were up to me, Paulo Ferreira, Anelka and Malouda would be moving on, replaced by a left and right winger (no need to replace Ferreira).
Drogba has one good season left in him if he has the summer off and chooses to stay. I hope he does.
Most of the talk about Torres not scoring is based on lazy reporting - the fact is he hasn't actually played 90 minutes in many games, and is getting subbed or benched because of the calibre of the other strikers we have available and the poor service he has been getting...Chelsea are simply not putting through balls or crosses into the box...it is slow methodical buildup on the edge of the box, which obviously does not suit Torres. Torres looked good in the home games against Man City and Wigan (even if he is nervous in front of goal) and will score eventually, particularly if Lampard and Benayoun are in the team together. He had an immediate understanding with Benayoun against Wigan last weekend. I am not a huge Torres fan (I dont think he's anywhere near as good as a fit Drogba), but I'm sure he can be as effective for us as Anelka has been.
Post by: sammy on April 13, 2011, 05:18:36 PM
:beermug:
P.S. - the rest of haters really need the extra support.
Post by: Andre on April 14, 2011, 08:40:31 AM
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Post by: Blue on April 20, 2011, 04:05:38 PM
Post by: elan on April 23, 2011, 10:46:38 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 23, 2011, 11:34:44 AM
Post by: Socapro on April 23, 2011, 12:21:14 PM
Post by: Blue on April 23, 2011, 01:39:30 PM
Malouda's bullet wasnt easy either, Alex would be proud of that.
3-0 was a great scoreline considering the average performance by the team, but it was worth getting absolutely drenched by a London monsoon to see Torres break his duck :)
Post by: kicker on April 30, 2011, 11:21:07 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 30, 2011, 11:29:41 AM
Chelsea now get a lifeline with some poor goalkeeping and equally dubious officiating.
luckiest team in Europe without a doubt.. everything goes their way when they need it to
Post by: kicker on April 30, 2011, 11:45:09 AM
Post by: kicker on April 30, 2011, 12:19:17 PM
Chelsea having the nod of the Gods today so far.
Post by: richpy on April 30, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
Go ahead goal looked offside...
Chelsea having the nod of the Gods today so far.
They did have a penalty waved off though
Chelsea play today like they haven't played in a long long time. Real hustle and fight
If they had played with this fight, they would already have wrapped up the title.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 30, 2011, 12:29:55 PM
I'd be embarrassed to be a Chelsea fan.. no history, no passion , just luck and money
Post by: Bitter on April 30, 2011, 01:10:44 PM
As I said.. luckiest team in Europe.. when they need a result they get the result via shit defending and goalkeeping and refs.. gist from the lino and gomes and a gift from the lino in the last minute.. offside winner
I'd be embarrassed to be a Chelsea fan.. no history, no passion , just luck and money
Steups, yuh doesn't get tired?
Post by: Arazi on April 30, 2011, 01:27:03 PM
Go ahead goal looked offside...
Chelsea having the nod of the Gods today so far.
They did have a penalty waved off though
Chelsea play today like they haven't played in a long long time. Real hustle and fight
If they had played with this fight, they would already have wrapped up the title.
We've played that way since we got knocked out of the CL...
What changed..first of all.. ANCELOTTI STOPPED starting Ramires and reverted to the 4-3-3. Altho he started Torres today and we still look decent with Mikel, Essien Lamps centre...
i can't believe how many people failed to realise hwo much Ramires disrupts the chemistry in the middle..He generally gets in Lampard's way and he drifts from central to wide position AND he gives away the ball..ALOT!
Sometimes he's play rel good games, but even when he does..he normally causing that headache in d middle for the other men...
The firing of Ray Wilkins was a major thing to chelsea losing the plot in mid season...
Mango Chow- I agree with you totally. Something happened to this team when Ray was sacked. BBC has an article today and I agree that changing the coach is not the answer. Somehow Michael, Anelka , Kalo Lampard maybe have to go. Chelsea need new blood and someone to partner Torres as I believe Drogba is going to ride out.
been sayin dat from d beginning, although they won the first couple or so games after he left they didn't look right and never looked right since ???
incorrect..immediately after he was fired, Chelsea went like 8 games without a win..his influence was great..
As I said.. luckiest team in Europe.. when they need a result they get the result via shit defending and goalkeeping and refs.. gist from the lino and gomes and a gift from the lino in the last minute.. offside winner
I'd be embarrassed to be a Chelsea fan.. no history, no passion , just luck and money
Anybody else find it funny that Man U fans upset that Tottenham Hotspurs lost due to poor officiating today?
Post by: Blue on April 30, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
We dominated the first half....great goal from Sandro, but Spurs had hardly been in the game up to that point. In contrast, our entire team was looking on form. Ivanovic had Bale on lockdown...Bale eventually started moving into centre midfield to try and find some space, still with no luck. On the other wing, Cole had Lennon under heavy manners. Torres and Drogba were operating much better today, with Drogba playing in more of a second striker role, but with some serious attacking venom. Ok, Lampard shot didnt cross the line, but if Gomes wasn't such a $hittong, there would have been no controversy. We deserved to be 2 or 3 up at half time, so 1-1 still flattered Spurs.
Second half was slightly more even, but we were still the only team who really looked like scoring. We were doing all the pressing and Spurs were time wasting from the 60 minute mark. Excellent contributions from all our subs. We deserved a goal and got it.
Drogba is playing like a beast again, he is back to his best. Man of the Match yet again. He is incredible to watch when he is on form :beermug:
Credit to Spurs for playing such an attacking team, it made for a great, open game. But, other than that, f**k Spurs, no way they coming to the Bridge and getting anything. :devil:
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Post by: elan on April 30, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
Chelsea now get a lifeline with some poor goalkeeping and equally dubious officiating.
luckiest team in Europe without a doubt.. everything goes their way when they need it to
F@#k off you little twat.
Post by: elan on April 30, 2011, 01:46:16 PM
Hard luck for all the haters, couldn't careless. Middle finger to the world.
Post by: Blue on April 30, 2011, 03:47:09 PM
Post by: JDB on April 30, 2011, 04:56:51 PM
One other thing...Kalou didnt celebrate his winning goal today...he looked pretty unhappy and didnt celebrate with the other players or acknowledge the fans after the final whistle either...possibly fed up with life at Chelsea? :-\
Heard that there was commotion in the tunnel after the game. Kalou was upset that he lost his place to Torres.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 01, 2011, 07:59:50 AM
One other thing...Kalou didnt celebrate his winning goal today...he looked pretty unhappy and didnt celebrate with the other players or acknowledge the fans after the final whistle either...possibly fed up with life at Chelsea? :-\
Heard that there was commotion in the tunnel after the game. Kalou was upset that he lost his place to Torres.
Kalou need to relax he self....While he is setting personal goal-scoring records, he is still a rank underachiever in my book. He can do and score so much more and his decision-making can be quite suspect. Either he tighten up and improve his goal-scoring, or be vex, stay vex and move on. Torres is suffering from loss of form, but Kalou have a lonnnnnng way to go before he start beefing against what Torres' potential brings to the team.
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 01, 2011, 08:25:42 AM
Finally we get a ref to give us something in our favor. Thank you Jose Mourinho.:beermug:
Hard luck for all the haters, couldn't careless. Middle finger to the world.
yet there are no complaints from them when they are continuosly favoured by the refereree (man u fans ::))
they just worried about the possibility of them getting NO trophies this year
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 05, 2011, 09:58:07 AM
Post by: elan on May 05, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
Like allyuh self but you lot due for a hiccup and it comin on Sunday :beermug:
I eh worried about Sunday - win or lose - I more worried about the Everton game.
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2011, 01:17:50 PM
Like allyuh self but you lot due for a hiccup and it comin on Sunday :beermug:
I eh worried about Sunday - win or lose - I more worried about the Everton game.
same here...we eh beat everton in a while...
Post by: dinho on May 08, 2011, 11:17:15 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2011, 11:40:48 AM
Somebody should change the locks to the dressing room door tomorrow before Kalou come to training.
...and he and Malouda better be carpooling! Two of them have to be the absolute DUMBEST players on this team! I never see two players so consistently dribble themselves into trouble so (that was over 5 years old).....This team need to start makin' a whole lotta changes. We have gotten too easily outcoached, outhustled (same as being outcoached), outplayed and outscored by the teams that matter most. I waitin' to see who leavin' first.
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 12:31:56 PM
Somebody should change the locks to the dressing room door tomorrow before Kalou come to training.
...and he and Malouda better be carpooling! Two of them have to be the absolute DUMBEST players on this team! I never see two players so consistently dribble themselves into trouble so (that was over 5 years old).....This team need to start makin' a whole lotta changes. We have gotten too easily outcoached, outhustled (same as being outcoached), outplayed and outscored by the teams that matter most. I waitin' to see who leavin' first.
Unfair on both players I think.
Everyone knows what Kalou brings to the table - energy and aimless dribbling. That has always been his game and today was no different. Sometimes it works (and I am as baffled as everyone else when it does). That was Ancelotti's choice - in hindsight it didnt work, but the alternative would have been Anelka, who brings no energy whatsoever nowadays.
Personally I think Malouda didnt do too badly today. He is not aimless at all, but he doesnt have the pace he had 12 months ago. We dont have an alternative for him.
Today's loss was the result of poor defending by Luiz (arguably Ancelotti should have started Alex) and Man United simply being the better side....the emergence of Hernandez and the return of Valencia made a big, big difference.
Ancelotti is probably on his bike after today. I am pretty ambivalent about that, but I would love to see Mourinho return...and as the story goes that is not an impossibility at all....
I would like to see Ferreira, Anelka (and possibly Malouda) moving on and replaced by a couple of wingers (or maybe just 1 if we are planning to play 4-4-2 next season). I would love to see us buy N'Zogbia.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 12:38:54 PM
Somebody should change the locks to the dressing room door tomorrow before Kalou come to training.
...and he and Malouda better be carpooling! Two of them have to be the absolute DUMBEST players on this team! I never see two players so consistently dribble themselves into trouble so (that was over 5 years old).....This team need to start makin' a whole lotta changes. We have gotten too easily outcoached, outhustled (same as being outcoached), outplayed and outscored by the teams that matter most. I waitin' to see who leavin' first.
Unfair on both players I think.
Everyone knows what Kalou brings to the table - energy and aimless dribbling. That has always been his game and today was no different. Sometimes it works (and I am as baffled as everyone else when it does). That was Ancelotti's choice - in hindsight it didnt work, but the alternative would have been Anelka, who brings no energy whatsoever nowadays.
Personally I think Malouda didnt do too badly today. He is not aimless at all, but he doesnt have the pace he had 12 months ago. We dont have an alternative for him.
Today's loss was the result of poor defending by Luiz (arguably Ancelotti should have started Alex) and Man United simply being the better side....the emergence of Hernandez and the return of Valencia made a big, big difference.
Ancelotti is probably on his bike after today. I am pretty ambivalent about that, but I would ove to see Mourinho return...and as the story goes that is not an impossibility at all....
I would like to see Ferreira, Anelka (and possibly Malouda) moving on and replaced by a couple of wingers (or maybe just 1 if we are planning to play 4-4-2 next season). I would love to see us buy N'Zogbia.
N'Zogbia is Kalou deuce!
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 12:41:30 PM
Somebody should change the locks to the dressing room door tomorrow before Kalou come to training.
...and he and Malouda better be carpooling! Two of them have to be the absolute DUMBEST players on this team! I never see two players so consistently dribble themselves into trouble so (that was over 5 years old).....This team need to start makin' a whole lotta changes. We have gotten too easily outcoached, outhustled (same as being outcoached), outplayed and outscored by the teams that matter most. I waitin' to see who leavin' first.
Unfair on both players I think.
Everyone knows what Kalou brings to the table - energy and aimless dribbling. That has always been his game and today was no different. Sometimes it works (and I am as baffled as everyone else when it does). That was Ancelotti's choice - in hindsight it didnt work, but the alternative would have been Anelka, who brings no energy whatsoever nowadays.
Personally I think Malouda didnt do too badly today. He is not aimless at all, but he doesnt have the pace he had 12 months ago. We dont have an alternative for him.
Today's loss was the result of poor defending by Luiz (arguably Ancelotti should have started Alex) and Man United simply being the better side....the emergence of Hernandez and the return of Valencia made a big, big difference.
Ancelotti is probably on his bike after today. I am pretty ambivalent about that, but I would ove to see Mourinho return...and as the story goes that is not an impossibility at all....
I would like to see Ferreira, Anelka (and possibly Malouda) moving on and replaced by a couple of wingers (or maybe just 1 if we are planning to play 4-4-2 next season). I would love to see us buy N'Zogbia.
N'Zogbia is Kalou deuce!
Nzogbia has excellent control, Kalou has the touch of a rapist
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
Kalou has the touch of a rapist:rotfl:
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
Somebody should change the locks to the dressing room door tomorrow before Kalou come to training.
...and he and Malouda better be carpooling! Two of them have to be the absolute DUMBEST players on this team! I never see two players so consistently dribble themselves into trouble so (that was over 5 years old).....This team need to start makin' a whole lotta changes. We have gotten too easily outcoached, outhustled (same as being outcoached), outplayed and outscored by the teams that matter most. I waitin' to see who leavin' first.
Unfair on both players I think.
Everyone knows what Kalou brings to the table - energy and aimless dribbling. That has always been his game and today was no different. Sometimes it works (and I am as baffled as everyone else when it does). That was Ancelotti's choice - in hindsight it didnt work, but the alternative would have been Anelka, who brings no energy whatsoever nowadays.
Personally I think Malouda didnt do too badly today. He is not aimless at all, but he doesnt have the pace he had 12 months ago. We dont have an alternative for him.
Today's loss was the result of poor defending by Luiz (arguably Ancelotti should have started Alex) and Man United simply being the better side....the emergence of Hernandez and the return of Valencia made a big, big difference.
Ancelotti is probably on his bike after today. I am pretty ambivalent about that, but I would ove to see Mourinho return...and as the story goes that is not an impossibility at all....
I would like to see Ferreira, Anelka (and possibly Malouda) moving on and replaced by a couple of wingers (or maybe just 1 if we are planning to play 4-4-2 next season). I would love to see us buy N'Zogbia.
N'Zogbia is Kalou deuce!
Nzogbia has excellent control, Kalou has the touch of a rapist
He also dribbles aimlessly and makes poor decisions with the ball.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2011, 01:55:03 PM
Post by: Observer on May 08, 2011, 01:55:37 PM
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 02:02:58 PM
Ryan on the goal I felt Terry made a huge mistake stepping up, instead of dropping into a covering position. Luis will take the blame, but watch it good it was potentially preventable if Terry did not step up.
It was also preventable if Luiz didn't keep him onside and then fan on the tackle... he actually took enough pace off the pass to get an assist on the goal :devil:
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 02:19:17 PM
Ryan on the goal I felt Terry made a huge mistake stepping up, instead of dropping into a covering position. Luis will take the blame, but watch it good it was potentially preventable if Terry did not step up.
Maybe, I didnt notice that....I'm not surprised though as Luiz is always the last stopper and Terry plays in front of him. But Luiz should have been positioned more centrally. Luiz drifted to the right, which allowed the through ball to come through the middle. He is still learning.
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 02:22:26 PM
I see on some previous posts people talkin' 'bout Ramires does gih way de ball.....allyuh ever really pay attention to how often Malouda does lose de ball (and HOW?!). Time after time after time after friggin' time, he will pick up the ball on dat left side, run at his defender (showing the ball), run at defender AND his help (showing the ball) in a situation where he will clearly lose the ball....2 seconds later, he's on the ground lookin' for a call. FOH! Ryan, Kalou does not have a bad touch on the ball....he is, in fact, very skilled and can dribble quite well. His problem is that he tries the impossible sometimes and his decision making as a whole is very poor.
Malouda - I agree he has not been great this season.
Kalou - Chow, I doh really know what to say about your views on Kalou, I've never heard anyone say that he has a good touch on the ball, we'll have to agree to disagree ;D.
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 02:31:40 PM
Somebody should change the locks to the dressing room door tomorrow before Kalou come to training.
...and he and Malouda better be carpooling! Two of them have to be the absolute DUMBEST players on this team! I never see two players so consistently dribble themselves into trouble so (that was over 5 years old).....This team need to start makin' a whole lotta changes. We have gotten too easily outcoached, outhustled (same as being outcoached), outplayed and outscored by the teams that matter most. I waitin' to see who leavin' first.
Unfair on both players I think.
Everyone knows what Kalou brings to the table - energy and aimless dribbling. That has always been his game and today was no different. Sometimes it works (and I am as baffled as everyone else when it does). That was Ancelotti's choice - in hindsight it didnt work, but the alternative would have been Anelka, who brings no energy whatsoever nowadays.
Personally I think Malouda didnt do too badly today. He is not aimless at all, but he doesnt have the pace he had 12 months ago. We dont have an alternative for him.
Today's loss was the result of poor defending by Luiz (arguably Ancelotti should have started Alex) and Man United simply being the better side....the emergence of Hernandez and the return of Valencia made a big, big difference.
Ancelotti is probably on his bike after today. I am pretty ambivalent about that, but I would ove to see Mourinho return...and as the story goes that is not an impossibility at all....
I would like to see Ferreira, Anelka (and possibly Malouda) moving on and replaced by a couple of wingers (or maybe just 1 if we are planning to play 4-4-2 next season). I would love to see us buy N'Zogbia.
N'Zogbia is Kalou deuce!
Nzogbia has excellent control, Kalou has the touch of a rapist
He also dribbles aimlessly and makes poor decisions with the ball.
*shrug* i rate him
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2011, 02:57:54 PM
I see on some previous posts people talkin' 'bout Ramires does gih way de ball.....allyuh ever really pay attention to how often Malouda does lose de ball (and HOW?!). Time after time after time after friggin' time, he will pick up the ball on dat left side, run at his defender (showing the ball), run at defender AND his help (showing the ball) in a situation where he will clearly lose the ball....2 seconds later, he's on the ground lookin' for a call. FOH! Ryan, Kalou does not have a bad touch on the ball....he is, in fact, very skilled and can dribble quite well. His problem is that he tries the impossible sometimes and his decision making as a whole is very poor.
Malouda - I agree he has not been great this season.
Kalou - Chow, I doh really know what to say about your views on Kalou, I've never heard anyone say that he has a good touch on the ball, we'll have to agree to disagree ;D.
I guess so, but on the one hand you're saying that everybody knows he brings "...aimless dribbling" to the table but that he has a poor touch....I eh see how you could be known for dribbling (aimlessly or not) and yet have a poor touch on the ball....I think the man can dribble and control the ball very well, he just has a penchant for running himself ito too much trouble and he shows the ball too much, perhaps being overconfident. Remember the own goal that john arne reise gifted us with his big head a couple seasons ago in the Champions' League? Who you think it was that beat two defenders from a damned near impossible position near the corner flag to cross the ball for reise? It was Kalou himself.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
Ryan on the goal I felt Terry made a huge mistake stepping up, instead of dropping into a covering position. Luis will take the blame, but watch it good it was potentially preventable if Terry did not step up.
You are absolutely right. Even as the play was developing, Hernandez was always behind Luiz' back and in fron of JT. He was supposed to read Chicharito's run and cover for David Luiz as he was stranded on that play.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 09, 2011, 04:29:08 AM
Chelski Fans New Blue :beermug:
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Post by: GunnerStunner on May 10, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
it better than the blue in spurs or wigan or west brom but certainly not birmingham (arsenal charity for the season)
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2011, 11:14:58 AM
Torres was dreadful. He had no excuse today, Benayoun and Lampard both started and were looking for him, but he still has no confidence and refuses to shoot.
Nice to see McEachran starting in the DM role, he looked pretty good :beermug:
Post by: Bakes on May 15, 2011, 11:53:55 AM
*shrug* i rate him
N'zogbia... that shithound.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 15, 2011, 12:49:45 PM
Subdued final home game of the season today. The referee was shocking, definitely not a home ref. And the Newcastle equaliser in the final minute of extra time put a damper on things...
Torres was dreadful. He had no excuse today, Benayoun and Lampard both started and were looking for him, but he still has no confidence and refuses to shoot.
Nice to see McEachran starting in the DM role, he looked pretty good :beermug:
We can only hope that the off and preseason to come does Torres some good and he will return next season with at least half the form he had in previous years. It seems like it's all in his head.
I agree that the refereeing was rediculous but at least it didn't affect the outcome of the game, so say wha.....last week, John Terry's poor covering put David Luiz in a bad position, this week it was Ashley cole's bad pass that did Terry in. He had no choice but to foul that man there. But that header on the second equalizer, about 5 yards from de goal line....all dat is John Terry terrytorry. We should have run away easily with the title this year, but such is life, we not coming worse than second. At least we ain't fightin' up for a Europa Leauge spot like spurs and moreso, liverpool.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2011, 01:10:37 PM
Subdued final home game of the season today. The referee was shocking, definitely not a home ref. And the Newcastle equaliser in the final minute of extra time put a damper on things...
Torres was dreadful. He had no excuse today, Benayoun and Lampard both started and were looking for him, but he still has no confidence and refuses to shoot.
Nice to see McEachran starting in the DM role, he looked pretty good :beermug:
We can only hope that the off and preseason to come does Torres some good and he will return next season with at least half the form he had in previous years. It seems like it's all in his head.
I agree that the refereeing was rediculous but at least it didn't affect the outcome of the game, so say wha.....last week, John Terry's poor covering put David Luiz in a bad position, this week it was Ashley cole's bad pass that did Terry in. He had no choice but to foul that man there. But that header on the second equalizer, about 5 yards from de goal line....all dat is John Terry terrytorry. We should have run away easily with the title this year, but such is life, we not coming worse than second. At least we ain't fightin' up for a Europa Leauge spot like spurs and moreso, liverpool.
Yuh like all yuh new uniforms?
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
Team in the new kit:
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Diver:
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Diver:
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Diver:
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Diver:
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Goalscorer:
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Post by: Blue on May 15, 2011, 01:18:13 PM
Subdued final home game of the season today. The referee was shocking, definitely not a home ref. And the Newcastle equaliser in the final minute of extra time put a damper on things...
Torres was dreadful. He had no excuse today, Benayoun and Lampard both started and were looking for him, but he still has no confidence and refuses to shoot.
Nice to see McEachran starting in the DM role, he looked pretty good :beermug:
We can only hope that the off and preseason to come does Torres some good and he will return next season with at least half the form he had in previous years. It seems like it's all in his head.
I agree that the refereeing was rediculous but at least it didn't affect the outcome of the game, so say wha.....last week, John Terry's poor covering put David Luiz in a bad position, this week it was Ashley cole's bad pass that did Terry in. He had no choice but to foul that man there. But that header on the second equalizer, about 5 yards from de goal line....all dat is John Terry terrytorry. We should have run away easily with the title this year, but such is life, we not coming worse than second. At least we ain't fightin' up for a Europa Leauge spot like spurs and moreso, liverpool.
Yuh like all yuh new uniforms?
nuthin special...i bought it, but i am easily marketed to, lol.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 15, 2011, 01:32:44 PM
Subdued final home game of the season today. The referee was shocking, definitely not a home ref. And the Newcastle equaliser in the final minute of extra time put a damper on things...
Torres was dreadful. He had no excuse today, Benayoun and Lampard both started and were looking for him, but he still has no confidence and refuses to shoot.
Nice to see McEachran starting in the DM role, he looked pretty good :beermug:
We can only hope that the off and preseason to come does Torres some good and he will return next season with at least half the form he had in previous years. It seems like it's all in his head.
I agree that the refereeing was rediculous but at least it didn't affect the outcome of the game, so say wha.....last week, John Terry's poor covering put David Luiz in a bad position, this week it was Ashley cole's bad pass that did Terry in. He had no choice but to foul that man there. But that header on the second equalizer, about 5 yards from de goal line....all dat is John Terry terrytorry. We should have run away easily with the title this year, but such is life, we not coming worse than second. At least we ain't fightin' up for a Europa Leauge spot like spurs and moreso, liverpool.
Yuh like all yuh new uniforms?
I never see a adidas kit I didn't like! (except when your stinkin' side used to disparage the brand like how liverpool doin' it now!) :devil:
Post by: JDB on June 20, 2011, 05:42:45 AM
Happy Days fellas, a next manager to be collecting severance in two years time.
Chelsea 'agree deal' with Porto's André Villas-Boas over manager's job (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/20/chelsea-andre-villas-boas-porto)
• André Villas-Boas 'has accepted Chelsea offer'
• Roman Abramovich said to have offered coach €5m a year
Tom Kundert in Lisbon and Tom Davies
guardian.co.uk
Monday 20 June 2011 11.21 BST
Chelsea have agreed to pay the release clause for the Porto manager André Villas-Boas, according to reports in Portugal, and the coach has accepted the offer to work in London.
Villas-Boas will earn €5m (£4.4m) a season, the exact salary José Mourinho earned at the west London club, according to Jornal de Notícias. Chelsea will also pay the €15m (£13.2m) release clause.
Villas-Boas has already informed Porto of his decision to leave for the English club, a source linked to the process told the Agência.
On Sunday the Porto president Pinto da Costa said "if a club pay the €15m and if he wants to leave, FC Porto can't do anything about it".
Apparently, Villas-Boas is now willing to leave the "dream job" (a reference to how Da Costa described his position at Porto) to re-join the club where he worked with Mourinho.
Villas-Boas led Porto to the domestic double and Europa League success last term and Chelsea are looking to fill the vacancy created by the sacking of Carlo Ancelotti.
Chelsea's owner, Roman Abramovich, may leave €45m in the coffers at Porto's Dragão stadium in total, moreover. According to A Bola, he also wants to take the Colombian forward Falcao to London as a sweetener for Villas-Boas's signature.
Chelsea have also been in negotiations with Guus Hiddink about returning to the club he briefly managed in 2009. Chelsea have been talking with the Dutchman about taking either the coach's job or the sporting director role – should he take on the latter then there would also be room for Villas-Boas to take a position at the club.
Porto's press office refused to comment on the situation on Monday morning. However, it is understood that any deal would have to be announced on the Portuguese stock exchange
Post by: Blue on June 20, 2011, 07:11:55 AM
Post by: andre samuel on June 20, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
Portuguese news agency Lusa claimed on Monday morning that the Blues had met the financial demands of the Liga club and were on the brink of appointing the 33-year-old as Carlo Ancelotti's successor.
Porto responded to the speculation with a statement that denied they had received a successful bid from Chelsea and that they had no indication from Villas-Boas that he wished to leave the Estadio do Dragao.
"FC Porto, at the request of the CMVM [Portuguese stock market], hereby informs the market that the coach Andre Villas-Boas, as well as several players, has a termination clause.
"To date, we have not received any communication that this clause will be exercised, nor that the coach agrees to such an aim."
Meanwhile, Chelsea said they remain confident they will soon be in a position to make a formal announcement on their new manager, but would not say who they are in negotiations with.
A club spokesman said: "We hope to be able to make an announcement regarding the new manager in the next few days or so, but until then we will not be commenting further on the speculation surrounding that appointment.''
Villas-Boas won the 2010-11 Portuguese League, Portuguese Cup and the UEFA Europa League in his debut season as a manager and was immediately linked with a move to one of Europe's biggest clubs.
Porto president Pinta da Costa said on Monday the club were powerless to prevent Villas-Boas from leaving should his release clause be activated.
He said: "If someone deposits €15million into our account and he wants to go, we cannot do anything because it is something that is contractually specified.''
Villas-Boas became the youngest coach to win a European trophy when his Porto side beat Braga 1-0 in Dublin at the end of last season and despite insisting at the time that he was happy to remain at the club and build a team to compete in the Champions League his future has been the subject of much speculation.
On Sunday, Inter Milan ruled out a move for the highly-rated coach. "Villas-Boas had this clause that we certainly were not going to tackle," Inter president Massimo Moratti said.
Chelsea have been searching for a new manager since dispensing with Ancelotti on May 22 and it was thought that Turkey coach Guus Hiddink, who won the FA Cup as temporary Blues boss in 2009, was first choice to replace the Italian.
However, Villas-Boas, a former assistant to Jose Mourinho at Chelsea, could be destined to follow in the footsteps of his mentor, with whom he has been favourably compared, if the Blues increase their offer.
During his time as part of Chelsea's coaching team from 2004 to 2007, Villas-Boas was responsible for putting together the detailed technical reports on every opponent that was one of the hallmarks of Mourinho's reign.
Post by: STEUPS!! on June 20, 2011, 10:29:21 AM
of course if the story is actually true :-\
Post by: Touches on June 21, 2011, 06:35:02 AM
Hiddink's change of heart clears way for Villas-Boas, who is set to bring £26m striker Falcao with him from Porto
By Sam Wallace and Mark Fleming
Tuesday, 21 June 2011
Villas-Boas looks bound for Chelsea
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Villas-Boas looks bound for Chelsea
Guus Hiddink has told friends that he will not be joining Chelsea in any capacity this summer, which means the 33-year-old Andre Villas-Boas will have sole control of the club as its new manager.
Hiddink has indicated that he will now be staying with Turkey until the end of their Euro 2012 qualification campaign and possibly beyond to the tournament next summer, ruling him out of any potential director of football role. The club had originally turned to Villas-Boas as a coach to work under Hiddink but were so impressed by the Porto manager that they decided to offer him an all-encompassing manager's job.
An announcement on Villas-Boas, who worked at Chelsea under Jose Mourinho as an opposition scout, is expected in the next few days by Chelsea. It is a remarkable turnaround in the appointment of Carlo Ancelotti's successor, with the club's owner, Roman Abramovich, previously having intended to appoint Hiddink.
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It emerged yesterday Chelsea will have to pay around £13.2m compensation to Porto for Villas-Boas, a huge sum for a manager. The club are also expected to sign Porto's Colombian striker Radamel Falcao, who has a £26m buyout clause in his contract – a move that is likely to infuriate the Porto president, Jorge Pinto da Costa further.
Appointing a manager with only one full season under his belt is a huge step – even though Villas-Boas achieved great success in his debut year with Porto. He won the Portuguese title going through the season unbeaten, picked up the two domestic trophies and also the Europa League with a win percentage of 84 per cent. His only other managerial job was eight months in charge at Academica de Coimbra.
The Russian oligarch is believed to be the driving force behind appointing Mourinho's protégé as Chelsea's sixth manager in four years. While it is understood he is ready to meet the buyout clause in Villas-Boas' contract, Chelsea are trying to pay less. Villas-Boas informed Porto yesterday of his intention to leave and was last night at home waiting for the deal to be completed.
The Portuguese coach, who wrote famously detailed dossiers on the opposition for Mourinho at Chelsea from 2003 to 2007, has been offered £5m a year on a three-year deal to take over at Stamford Bridge and replace the experienced Ancelotti, who was sacked on the final day of last season.
Provided Abramovich is successful in enticing Villas-Boas away from Porto, it will take the Russian's total spending in compensation to former clubs and sacked managers to £62m.
Porto yesterday issued a statement to the Portuguese stock exchange that they had not received the £13.2m required to release their manager from his contract. However, it is likely a deal will be reached by the end of the week. A Chelsea spokesman said: "We hope to be able to make an announcement regarding the new manager in the next few days or so."
Hiddink is understood to have been reluctant to take on the day-to-day responsibility of coaching the first team full-time at the age of 64. He wanted to appoint several coaches, allowing him to spend time in the Netherlands, which alarmed the Chelsea board and prompted a closer look at Villas-Boas.
Pinto da Costa yesterday admitted that he would be unable to prevent Villas-Boas from moving to England if his release fee is met. He said: "Villas-Boas has a contract and a clause of €15m [£13.2m]. If someone deposits €15m into our account and he wants to go, we can not do anything."
Sources in Portugal last night claimed that Villas-Boas had been told Chelsea would make funds available for him to take the prolific striker Falcao with him. The 25-year-old striker set a new coring record of 17 goals in 14 games in the Europa League campaign.
Villas-Boas, who at 33 is the same age as Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba, has become the most talked about young coach in world football despite only working as a manager for 20 months at two Portuguese clubs.
Porto are said to be extremely unhappy at the prospect of him leaving, having already brought in four new players – Djalma, Iturbe, Kelvin and Rafael Bracalli – that Villas-Boas identified. Pinto da Costa is also understood to be disgruntled at the timing of Chelsea's approach, as the man he would have wanted to replace Villas-Boas, the former Beira-Mar manager Leonardo Jardim, has just been snapped up by rivals Braga.
During his brief managerial reign, Villas-Boas has been keen to differentiate himself from his mentor Mourinho, saying: "We have different personalities and different views towards the game. I respect Jose, but don't want to be a Mourinho clone. I want to be able to work freely, without worrying what he thinks."
A key difference is that Villas-Boas places a greater emphasis on attacking football than his mentor. His Porto team scored 73 goals in 30 league games last season, and fired in 37 goals on their way to winning the Europa League.
Like Mourinho he has courted controversy in the past, clashing with Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher and former Barcelona manager Frank Rijkaard during his time working under Mourinho at Stamford Bridge.
Post by: Tongue on June 21, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
finalising his terms now.
Post by: Blue on June 22, 2011, 04:45:23 AM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2379963,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2379963,00.html)
finalising his terms now.
Has been confirmed by the club
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2380210,00.html
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 22, 2011, 07:36:30 AM
Post by: Blue on June 22, 2011, 03:19:19 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2011, 05:13:57 PM
In other news, Neymar has said he is learning English, so we will see what happens there.
Well, he definitely eh goin' manchester or liverpool because they damned sure doh speak English up dey! :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on June 22, 2011, 07:19:10 PM
In other news, Neymar has said he is learning English, so we will see what happens there.
Please, he goes to Chelski and his career will stall! Chelski is the graveyard for young players! That fella going to Spain!
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
In other news, Neymar has said he is learning English, so we will see what happens there.
Please, he goes to Chelski and his career will stall! Chelski is the graveyard for young players! That fella going to Spain!
.....new coach, new players...we hadda see how the team lookin' when season in full swing to know how everyting playin' out. ;)
Post by: kicker on June 23, 2011, 09:35:43 AM
We can't always predict the future but based on what I've seen so far, that boy is special.
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 23, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
In other news, Neymar has said he is learning English, so we will see what happens there.
Please, he goes to Chelski and his career will stall! Chelski is the graveyard for young players! That fella going to Spain!
.....new coach, new players...we hadda see how the team lookin' when season in full swing to know how everyting playin' out. ;)
And dat new coach does insist that his teams play attractive football. He ain't just about winning; he love he prettiness.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 23, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
In other news, Neymar has said he is learning English, so we will see what happens there.
Please, he goes to Chelski and his career will stall! Chelski is the graveyard for young players! That fella going to Spain!
.....new coach, new players...we hadda see how the team lookin' when season in full swing to know how everyting playin' out. ;)
And dat new coach does insist that his teams play attractive football. He ain't just about winning; he love he prettiness.
Yuh know dat might spell trouble fuh yuh side, especially after allyuh wash did we ass dis roungz. :D
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 24, 2011, 01:36:57 PM
In other news, Neymar has said he is learning English, so we will see what happens there.
Please, he goes to Chelski and his career will stall! Chelski is the graveyard for young players! That fella going to Spain!
.....new coach, new players...we hadda see how the team lookin' when season in full swing to know how everyting playin' out. ;)
And dat new coach does insist that his teams play attractive football. He ain't just about winning; he love he prettiness.
Yuh know dat might spell trouble fuh yuh side, especially after allyuh wash did we ass dis roungz. :D
Me eh worried. We back to the Liverpool brand of the 80s: pass and move. It pretty! ;D
Post by: Blue on June 28, 2011, 01:05:56 PM
Wherever he goes, he will be a joy to watch.
We can't always predict the future but based on what I've seen so far, that boy is special.
I dunno...to me he is alot like Robinho, who flopped in England....he is not and out and out centre forward, he cuts in off the left wing....and he is tiny so he relies heavily on referees protecting him...referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 28, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
Wherever he goes, he will be a joy to watch.
We can't always predict the future but based on what I've seen so far, that boy is special.
I dunno...to me he is alot like Robinho, who flopped in England....he is not and out and out centre forward, he cuts in off the left wing....and he is tiny so he relies heavily on referees protecting him...referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 28, 2011, 01:23:20 PM
.referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
...didn't metronaldo get get them to always blow for the slightest (and even non-existent) contact? I eh see why dis yute should be any different.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 28, 2011, 01:26:41 PM
And Drogba and Chamakh and a host of players. England susceptible to it too..referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
...didn't metronaldo get get them to always blow for the slightest (and even non-existent) contact? I eh see why dis yute should be any different.
Post by: Mose on June 28, 2011, 01:30:24 PM
While ronaldo was able to take advantage of that his game didn't rely on it and his build is not quite as small so he was able to ride tackles if he wished. Also, he played a very different position. And he took a few years to develop into the player he is now..referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
...didn't metronaldo get get them to always blow for the slightest (and even non-existent) contact? I eh see why dis yute should be any different.
Post by: Blue on June 28, 2011, 01:48:54 PM
While ronaldo was able to take advantage of that his game didn't rely on it and his build is not quite as small so he was able to ride tackles if he wished. Also, he played a very different position. And he took a few years to develop into the player he is now..referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
...didn't metronaldo get get them to always blow for the slightest (and even non-existent) contact? I eh see why dis yute should be any different.
true, ronaldo had a reputation for diving. but in reality ronaldo would endure all kinda kick and stamp before he fell over (same as drogba). ronaldo is a 6 foot plus, muscle bound fella, neymar is a lightweight.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 28, 2011, 02:42:13 PM
While ronaldo was able to take advantage of that his game didn't rely on it and his build is not quite as small so he was able to ride tackles if he wished. Also, he played a very different position. And he took a few years to develop into the player he is now..referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
...didn't metronaldo get get them to always blow for the slightest (and even non-existent) contact? I eh see why dis yute should be any different.
true, ronaldo had a reputation for diving. but in reality ronaldo would endure all kinda kick and stamp before he fell over (same as drogba). ronaldo is a 6 foot plus, muscle bound fella, neymar is a lightweight.
"...neymar is a lightweight..." all the more reason why the refs might be inlined to be a little "fairer" to him. That reality of metronaldo enduring all kinda kick and stamp is not the reality I ever saw with him. We musta not be watchin' the same fella. Anything in the box or near the corners of the 18-yard, if yuh breathe on him he goin' dong.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 28, 2011, 03:00:15 PM
While ronaldo was able to take advantage of that his game didn't rely on it and his build is not quite as small so he was able to ride tackles if he wished. Also, he played a very different position. And he took a few years to develop into the player he is now..referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
...didn't metronaldo get get them to always blow for the slightest (and even non-existent) contact? I eh see why dis yute should be any different.
true, ronaldo had a reputation for diving. but in reality ronaldo would endure all kinda kick and stamp before he fell over (same as drogba). ronaldo is a 6 foot plus, muscle bound fella, neymar is a lightweight.
"...neymar is a lightweight..." all the more reason why the refs might be inlined to be a little "fairer" to him. That reality of metronaldo enduring all kinda kick and stamp is not the reality I ever saw with him. We musta not be watchin' the same fella. Anything in the box or near the corners of the 18-yard, if yuh breathe on him he goin' dong.
Players actually got away with a lot rakin their pegs down his heel and pressin down on his foot right after he may have released a pass. In the world cup against Holland the defender raked his pegs/stamped down his thigh which led to him having to get sub. Ronaldo's reputation for embellsihing contact/diving at times prevented him from getting calls because peopleef/r thoguht he was just trying to get a call and calf. That fella has all knids of scars on his legs from players leaving their mark on him. Unfortunately at times he was like the boy who cried wolf.
Post by: kicker on June 28, 2011, 03:04:10 PM
That fella has all knids of scars on his legs from players leaving their mark on him.
awwww poor fella :P
Post by: dinho on June 28, 2011, 03:21:19 PM
I might eat my words, but the youth just too nashy. England is not the place to come and learn yuh trade, especially a youth plying he trade as a skills man. Look at Gio Dos Santos. One bad jam from ah arbitrary wildman like Joey Barton or one of them Stoke defenders and he will get sour with England in no time.
Best he go Spain and develop.
Post by: kicker on June 28, 2011, 03:56:08 PM
I dunno...to me he is alot like Robinho, who flopped in England....he is not and out and out centre forward, he cuts in off the left wing....and he is tiny so he relies heavily on referees protecting him...referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
I think he's better than Robinho. Quicker first step, and alot more fluid with the ball.
Also I don't think that Robinho flopped in England because of the football being played there. I think he flopped because he had disciplinary problems and didn't get along well with the manager...plus I heard rumors of him just not enjoying the lifestyle there in Manchester - Robinho seems to be mentally weak.... Remember Robinho's first season he scored 14 goals in about 30 games....And he played well...Robinho was way good enough for English football...
I don't buy the whole perception that you need to be cut from some specially tough cloth to make it in England... English football is football like anywhere else. It might be a bit quicker and more physical, but players at the highest level can adapt. You just need to accept it and adapt. Players of all different sizes and styles like Luca Modric, David Silva, Gianfranco Zola, Yossi Benayoun, Fernando Torres, Yaya Toure, Xabi Alonso, Maxi Rodriguez, Antonio Reyes, Alvaro Arbeloa...and the list goes on, came to England from "softer and slower" leagues and played very well in England... some arguably better than before.
I think a world class player that accepts that he may have to adapt his game and toughen up a bit, and works on it can play well anywhere. If you're gonna cry about being pushed and kicked and complain that football "should" only be played the way you're used to...then you might have a problem. I don't know where Neymar falls on that scale.
Post by: dinho on June 28, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
I dunno...to me he is alot like Robinho, who flopped in England....he is not and out and out centre forward, he cuts in off the left wing....and he is tiny so he relies heavily on referees protecting him...referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
I think he's better than Robinho. Quicker first step, and alot more fluid with the ball.
Also I don't think that Robinho flopped in England because of the football being played there. I think he flopped because he had disciplinary problems and didn't get along well with the manager...plus I heard rumors of him just not enjoying the lifestyle there in Manchester - Robinho seems to be mentally weak.... Remember Robinho's first season he scored 14 goals in about 30 games....And he played well...Robinho was way good enough for English football...
I don't buy the whole perception that you need to be cut from some specially tough cloth to make it in England... English football is football like anywhere else. It might be a bit quicker and more physical, but players at the highest level can adapt. You just need to accept it and adapt. Players of all different sizes and styles like Luca Modric, David Silva, Gianfranco Zola, Yossi Benayoun, Fernando Torres, Yaya Toure, Xabi Alonso, Maxi Rodriguez, Antonio Reyes, Alvaro Arbeloa...and the list goes on, came to England from "softer and slower" leagues and played very well in England... some arguably better than before.
I think a world class player that accepts that he may have to adapt his game and toughen up a bit, and works on it can play well anywhere. If you're gonna cry about being pushed and kicked and complain that football "should" only be played the way you're used to...then you might have a problem. I don't know where Neymar falls on that scale.
Yeah but all those players you mention there who came to England and acquitted themselves well had already somewhat established themselves in their European leagues before making the move.
The learning curve for a player making the jump from the Brazilian league a whole lot steeper. On top of that there is the cultural and climate adjustment (less of a factor in Spain) and the intensified weight of expectation (more of a factor in the EPL). As a breddren of mine does say, any country with a Carnival doh expect them to last in England too long or have ah career past 28 - cold does bite harder in February lol.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a player in the style and build of Neymar that came to England directly and lived up to the billing. Players like Juninho and Andres D'Alessandro come to mind, players I thought would have been at the very top of the pile in football but fizzle in England.
Even Tevez and Mascherano, who came from Corinthians to West Ham and were physically built better to suit the EPL took a fair amount of time before adjusting.
Post by: Blue on June 28, 2011, 06:14:57 PM
Post by: mukumsplau on June 28, 2011, 06:22:38 PM
In other news, Roberto Di Matteo will be appointed assistant manager tomorrow
allyuh not goin an mess up we scenes with aguero i hope?!!!
Post by: Blue on June 29, 2011, 05:59:14 AM
I dunno...to me he is alot like Robinho, who flopped in England....he is not and out and out centre forward, he cuts in off the left wing....and he is tiny so he relies heavily on referees protecting him...referees in Brazil blow for the slightest contact...England isn't like that at all. We will see.
I think he's better than Robinho. Quicker first step, and alot more fluid with the ball.
Well the starting XI in the Copa will include both Neymar and Robinho (and probably Ganso too, iz gonna be a Santos reunion), so let's see who shines.
Post by: kicker on June 29, 2011, 09:39:14 AM
Well the starting XI in the Copa will include both Neymar and Robinho (and probably Ganso too, iz gonna be a Santos reunion), so let's see who shines.
Yeah we'll see... I'm hoping that Neymar breaks out in this tournament.
Regardless of that, even if he doesn't outshine Robinho, I still think he has potential to be better than Robinho (probably a more fair way to describe him at this early stage).
Post by: kicker on June 29, 2011, 09:52:46 AM
Yeah but all those players you mention there who came to England and acquitted themselves well had already somewhat established themselves in their European leagues before making the move.
The learning curve for a player making the jump from the Brazilian league a whole lot steeper. On top of that there is the cultural and climate adjustment (less of a factor in Spain) and the intensified weight of expectation (more of a factor in the EPL). As a breddren of mine does say, any country with a Carnival doh expect them to last in England too long or have ah career past 28 - cold does bite harder in February lol.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a player in the style and build of Neymar that came to England directly and lived up to the billing. Players like Juninho and Andres D'Alessandro come to mind, players I thought would have been at the very top of the pile in football but fizzle in England.
Even Tevez and Mascherano, who came from Corinthians to West Ham and were physically built better to suit the EPL took a fair amount of time before adjusting.
I not gonna disagree with anything you said, but the point that was being made (that I was responding to) was about Neymar being too soft and fragile for English football....not that he's unproven or unaccustomed to life in England. I agree he's unproven, and if it is that he can't cope with the harsh English lifestyle and the climate etc.., then so be it- there is always that possiblity. Ryan said that his physical attributes are simliar to Robinho, and Robinho failed, implying that he's likely to be destined for failure in England too. My response was that I don't think that Robinho failed because his football quality or physical attributes...He proved in his first season that he could maintain his prolific scoring record in England... I think Robinho failed mentally in not being able to adjust to the lifestyle, and possibly not being willing to adjust cetain aspects of his game.... so in a sense we are saying the same thing.
I gave examples of players of different sizes/ physical attributes who came from so called softer leagues and still managed to adapt their game. If those players completely flopped because of not being able to adapt to the cold etc. or other mental issues, yuh probably would hear about how English football is so physical and dem fellas cyah handle wild kick etc...Just saying, I think a world class player with the right attitude can adapt to play in any league. EPL football doh have a monopoly on tough guys who could take kick...Whether or not Neymar can adapt is yet to be seen. In the end, he might fail (if he goes to England) because he can't adapt to the physical nature of the game..who knows? I think its a generally exaggerated probability though.
Post by: Blue on June 29, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Former Chelsea defender Juliano Belletti, 34, has retired from football due to an achilles tendon injury.
The 34-year-old, who won the double at Stamford Bridge, had been at Fluminense in his native Brazil and had agreed to join Ceara.
He scored only once in 102 appearances for Barcelona before moving to London, the winner in the 2006 Champions League final against Arsenal.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2009217/Chelsea-oldboy-Juliano-Belletti-forced-retirement-achilles-injury.html
Post by: Blue on July 01, 2011, 04:56:12 AM
Post by: Blue on July 06, 2011, 03:09:15 PM
Scott Dann
Micah Richards
Samir Nasri
Luca Modric
Michel Bastos
Radamel Falcao
Neymar
Hulk
Would love if we at least got Bastos and Modric/Nasri. Praying we doh buy Hulk.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 06, 2011, 03:13:39 PM
Quick roundup of who we linked wid at the moment:
Scott Dann
Micah Richards
Samir Nasri
Luca Modric
Michel Bastos
Radamel Falcao
Neymar
Hulk
Would love if we at least got Bastos and Modric/Nasri. Praying we doh buy Hulk.
I agree thos are who I am most interested in as well. I would give falcao a look too though
Post by: elan on July 06, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Quick roundup of who we linked wid at the moment:
Scott Dann
Micah Richards
Samir Nasri
Luca Modric
Michel Bastos
Radamel Falcao
Neymar
Hulk
Would love if we at least got Bastos and Modric/Nasri. Praying we doh buy Hulk.
What happen to Lakuka deal? Like it just fall of or we get through?
Post by: Blue on July 06, 2011, 11:38:39 PM
Quick roundup of who we linked wid at the moment:
Scott Dann
Micah Richards
Samir Nasri
Luca Modric
Michel Bastos
Radamel Falcao
Neymar
Hulk
Would love if we at least got Bastos and Modric/Nasri. Praying we doh buy Hulk.
What happen to Lakuka deal? Like it just fall of or we get through?
oh yeah, I 4got him. I dunno wha goin on wid dat.
Post by: giggsy11 on July 08, 2011, 03:52:11 PM
Post by: Blue on July 10, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
Modric claims Levy 'threat' (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_7030773,00.html)
Luka Modric claims Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy threatened to leave him sat in the stands if he pushed for a move away from the club.
The Croatian midfielder has been the subject of sustained interest from Chelsea this summer, with the Blues tabling a £22million bid at one stage.
Spurs have made it clear that they will not be sanctioning a sale, especially to a Premier League rival, and rejected the Blues' offer out of hand.
They have also held talks with Modric regarding his future, with it hoped that they can convince him to ignore the speculation and focus on his duties at White Hart Lane.
The 25-year-old claims that he has been left with little option other than to accept that stance, with Levy having backtracked on previous claims that he would be prepared to discuss a deal.
Solution
"I reminded the chairman of our gentleman's agreement when we were in Dubrovnik last summer and I agreed a contract extension with Tottenham," Modric told Croatian newspaper Sportske Novosti.
"At that time, I had an open chat with Levy - that if a bigger club came in with a concrete offer, we would consider it and agree the best solution for all concerned.
"Now Levy doesn't want to talk to me and said there is no possibility that I can leave Spurs. He threatened me - he said if I didn't accept the club's stance, they would make me sit on the bench or in the stands."
Levy held crisis talks with Modric last week and reported immediately afterwards that the player would remain at White Hart Lane, but the former Dinamo Zagreb man has a different view on the success of the discussions.
"A lot has been published in the press about the meeting with Levy, who gave the public a twisted account of what happened," he added.
"I must say that I am genuinely disappointed about what Levy said to me. He didn't care about what I was telling him. It only convinced me further that I was right to consider moving on to another club.
"I hope that eventually he will understand the situation and that we will reach an agreement and go our separate ways in an appropriate manner."
Dream
Modric maintains that joining Chelsea would be a 'dream' for him, adding: "There is no doubt that Chelsea want me - they sent a concrete offer to Tottenham.
"I know that the new Chelsea boss (Andre Villas-Boas) said he wants me in his team. Of course I am flattered by this interest in me - it's a club that all players dream of joining, fighting for every competition available.
"It wasn't a snap decision - I talked a long time with my family and people whose opinions I respect. I thought about it, weighed it all up, and finally decided this was the best option."
Post by: dinho on July 11, 2011, 05:34:53 AM
Based on what I see so far, it have no way that nashy lil "starbwoy" youth going and survive in England.
All he wanna do when he get de ball is beat, like he feel is Eddie Hart. No amount ah beat go cut it in the EPL, i prefer we bring in a proven clinical finisher like Falcao and run with that than try to pay all dat money for Neymar and then hope he grow a brain.
Post by: Observer on August 07, 2011, 08:56:07 AM
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:04:35 AM
Seriously! between Chelski and ManCity, spending/buying will their be any footballers left to make up teams to play in the leagues!!
How many players Chelsea buy?
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 09:07:05 AM
Seriously! between Chelski and ManCity, spending/buying will their be any footballers left to make up teams to play in the leagues!!
Dry so??
Post by: Bakes on August 07, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
Seriously! between Chelski and ManCity, spending/buying will their be any footballers left to make up teams to play in the leagues!!
How many players Chelsea buy?
Probably a reference to Lukaku.
Post by: sammy on August 07, 2011, 09:39:03 AM
utd win a game and everybody remember it have a team called chelsi.
Post by: Observer on August 07, 2011, 11:15:56 AM
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 12:11:01 PM
I just looking at first team squads, not even reserve squad and seeing they have 48 players and City 42 listed.
I not sure where you getting your numbers, but right now I find Chelsea's first team squad is relatively thin. If as a team in football today you want to be competing in all the competitions you have to have 2 quality players for each position.
City is the team buying up players like mad but they will have to shed alot of them before the end of the transfer window to fit in with regulations.
In any case I ain't mad at them its a fair market. Years ago when the Man Uniteds and Real Madrids were buying up players for buying sake nobody was complaining. Deep down people just don't like that is the new teams on the block that now that have that luxury.
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 12:33:36 PM
Years ago when the Man Uniteds and Real Madrids were buying up players for buying sake nobody was complaining.
Disagree - Madrid is always get fight dong for throwing money behind the stars... Man U gets away from that even though they usually not shy the splash the cash... I believe it's because they have a rep for bringing players through the youth ranks...Like Barca...Barca iz throw real money around too, but the success of their academy overshadows it....Teams like Madrid, Man City and Chelsea doh have that reputation of bringing youth players through to shield them from that kinda criticism -that's the difference I find... Not saying that they don't have good academies, but the success of their academy system is overshadowed by the deep pockets...unlike Man U and Barca for e.g.
Deep down people just don't like that is the new teams on the block that now that have that luxury.
I could agree with this to an extent, but I still think it comes down to showing that you have a development program that produces as well as having deep pockets....
Post by: doublet750 on August 08, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
As for chelsea buying up all the players in terms of quantity you'd need to combine january and this window to match the amount of players that teams like liverpool and city have bought in this window alone.
Chelsea does have a thin squad which was their problem this season when the hit the bad patch....the perenial performers were either injured sick or underpar and the youths who steped in because of a lack of previous experience were not ready to handle that pressure....this year though the youths seem prepared. WE have two leftbacks (van anholt and bertrand) and another coming through the ranks (ben gordon) capable of replacing Ashley Cole...and im sure that we have had MORE players than any club in europe competing in FIFA YOUTH INTERNATIONAL tournaments this summer so the future is bright for the academy.
All thats needed is really that creative force a Modric or hopefully a sneijder ...somebody with the ability to change a game with a bit of magic....something we have been TRULY lacking since Zola left.
and i say TRULY because i harbored hopes that twinkle toes Joe Cole and Robben would have been our catalyst but as you can see they are no longer with the team and thus havent achieved what zola did ( a european cup)
Post by: giggsy11 on August 08, 2011, 05:12:34 PM
Post by: Bakes on August 08, 2011, 05:27:32 PM
As for chelsea buying up all the players in terms of quantity you'd need to combine january and this window to match the amount of players that teams like liverpool and city have bought in this window alone.
Liverpool bought three players during this summer transfer window... what you talking about? So far this summer Chelsea has already signed Romeu and Lukaku and aggressively courting Modric and Sneijder. Just with the two teenagers alone, plus Torres and Luiz from January and allyuh surpass the three we signed this summer... refuting your statement.
Post by: giggsy11 on August 08, 2011, 05:35:18 PM
Post by: doublet750 on August 09, 2011, 11:20:14 AM
As for chelsea buying up all the players in terms of quantity you'd need to combine january and this window to match the amount of players that teams like liverpool and city have bought in this window alone.
Liverpool bought three players during this summer transfer window... what you talking about? So far this summer Chelsea has already signed Romeu and Lukaku and aggressively courting Modric and Sneijder. Just with the two teenagers alone, plus Torres and Luiz from January and allyuh surpass the three we signed this summer... refuting your statement.
na boss chelsea has officially only signed two players this window Thibaut Courtois from Genk who is out on loan @ Atletico and Oriol Romeu ....Lukaku deal isnt finalised yet so he TECHNICALLY dont count.......
Liverpool has bought Adam, Doni, Henderson, Downing thats 4 players not 3 dogs and therefore our 2 this summer this far plus luiz and torress in january makes my statement of having to combine the last TWO windows for chelsea to match the amount of players pool get THIS window accurate
refuting your statement and establishing mine.
sidenote if u also include pool January Transfer window and spending you guys have still spent more $ and brought in more players than Chelsea in the last 2 windows
Post by: Bakes on August 09, 2011, 11:41:23 AM
na boss chelsea has officially only signed two players this window Thibaut Courtois from Genk who is out on loan @ Atletico and Oriol Romeu ....Lukaku deal isnt finalised yet so he TECHNICALLY dont count.......
Liverpool has bought Adam, Doni, Henderson, Downing thats 4 players not 3 dogs and therefore our 2 this summer this far plus luiz and torress in january makes my statement of having to combine the last TWO windows for chelsea to match the amount of players pool get THIS window accurate
refuting your statement and establishing mine.
sidenote if u also include pool January Transfer window and spending you guys have still spent more $ and brought in more players than Chelsea in the last 2 windows
Oho... so we being technical then? Well Doni came on a free transfer, we didn't "buy" him so I guess that means Liverpool no different from Chelsea-- combining January and now Chelsea buy 3 players, this summer Liverpool buy three... thereby refuting your statement. Once Lukaku sign "dogs" we could rubbish yuh comment... and then we could watch what happens with Sneijder and Modric 8)
Post by: doublet750 on August 09, 2011, 11:47:16 AM
"(CNN) -- Liverpool have continued their pre-season spending spree by signing Brazilian international goalkeeper Alexander Doni from Roma on Friday.
Doni's arrival comes just two days after the Anfield club agreed a fee with Aston Villa for the transfer of England winger Stewart Downing, and a week after Scottish midfielder Charlie Adam arrived from Blackpool."
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/07/15/football.doni.liverpool.downing/index.html
so once again i repeat Liverpool have bought 4 players to chelsea two THUS FAR ..and if that article aint clear enough for you google it i guarantee u see that the fee is about 1mill but there was a FEE therefore he wasnt FREE ....drop the r
(edit)
us chelsea fans know better to call a player our own before it is OFFICIALY announced (e.x. Robinho)
so when yuh wrong boss yuh wrong
Post by: Bakes on August 09, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
well since we still being TECHNICAL @ the time of u refuting my statement Lukaku was and still is NOT a chelsea player just yet so you still wrong boss man learn to recognize the details and once AGAIN to refute your statement doni was not free
so once again i repeat Liverpool have bought 4 players to chelsea two THUS FAR ..and if that article aint clear enough for you google it i guarantee u see that the fee is about 1mill but there was a FEE therefore he wasnt FREE ....drop the r
(edit)
us chelsea fans know better to call a player our own before it is OFFICIALY announced (e.x. Robinho)
so when yuh wrong boss yuh wrong
Either you can't read or yuh juss playing de ass... chances are both. Nothing in that CNN article says that Liverpool paid a fee for Doni. And if THAT isn't clear enough fuh yuh, maybe you should google and find out fuh yuhself. Liverpool got Doni on a free transfer, we didn't pay Roma any money for him.
"The 31-year-old Brazilian is thought to have joined on a free transfer after agreeing personal terms and passing a medical."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/15/liverpool-sign-alexander-doni-roma
Now, going back to your original statement:
Quote
As for chelsea buying up all the players in terms of quantity you'd need to combine january and this window to match the amount of players that teams like liverpool and city have bought in this window alone.
So leh we "combine january and this window" for Chelsea and we get
David Luiz
Fernando Torres
Thibaut Courtois
Oriol Romeu
Note nobody eh talking about Lukaku since yuh being technical... so heed your own advice "you still wrong boss man learn to recognize the details"
That is four players bought by Chelsea since January... while Liverpool has bought five players since January... but since yuh wasn't originally counting Liverpool's January purchases, taking away Suarez and Carroll, we are left with:
Adam
Henderson
Downing
I know yuh could count, so that makes 4 Chelsea players combined, 3 Liverpool players this summer. "when yuh wrong boss yuh wrong"
Thanks for playing.
Post by: Blue on August 14, 2011, 06:28:44 AM
Bad omens already when AVB is benching Drogba for Torres against this brutal Stoke defence.
Post by: giggsy11 on August 14, 2011, 08:11:17 AM
Seems like Chelski once again relying on their fullbacks to provide the width; ala Big Phill style!
Can't believe Kalou still on this team. Why the hell Drogba eating bench ahead of Torres and is the Benny man?
Post by: Jah Gol on August 14, 2011, 08:25:53 AM
Post by: PATRIOT on August 14, 2011, 09:31:13 AM
Come on The Chels!AGREED! I thought THAT move would have departed with the Italian... iz back to the same ole same ole, with EXACTLY the same results :( Unless AVB shows some balls and makes some changes in the next game, he might not last as long as Scolari did... I still feel Hiddink is the right man for this job, hope HE returns to he Bridge one day.
Bad omens already when AVB is benching Drogba for Torres against this brutal Stoke defence.
Post by: elan on August 15, 2011, 06:51:50 AM
Quote
AVB, you ain't no VIP in Stoke (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/944041/the-fifth-official:-david-oh-dear,-barton-goes-bickle?cc=5901)
He patrolled the technical area like he was auditioning for the new series of Portugal's Next Top Model, but this was the day Andre Villas-Boas realised there is little to zero romance left in the English game. If he looked reasonably horrified by deepest darkest Staffordshire and its vociferous yokels in the stands on a bright August afternoon; just wait until his team draw Morecambe away in the third round of the FA Cup.
It doesn't get more gritty and real than Stoke away on your first afternoon in the Premier League. Having watched Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth try to head-butt Fernando Torres' skull into dust, and Rory Delap hurl his quarterback bombs into the penalty area, the suave metrosexual probably wondered if he'd made the right decision to leave Portugal while he was supping a bitter-shandy opposite a towel-clad Tony Pulis in the manager's office after the game. :rotfl:
But that's not to say AVB won't have learnt a few things from Chelsea's bore draw, far from it. He's probably surmised that given how old his squad is he may as well bring himself on in the latter stages to freshen things up a bit, he will have seen how much contempt the rest of the country has for his left-back and marvelled at Fernando Torres - the £50 million man who can't score.
Post by: giggsy11 on August 15, 2011, 09:07:57 AM
QuoteAVB, you ain't no VIP in Stoke (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/944041/the-fifth-official:-david-oh-dear,-barton-goes-bickle?cc=5901)
He patrolled the technical area like he was auditioning for the new series of Portugal's Next Top Model, but this was the day Andre Villas-Boas realised there is little to zero romance left in the English game. If he looked reasonably horrified by deepest darkest Staffordshire and its vociferous yokels in the stands on a bright August afternoon; just wait until his team draw Morecambe away in the third round of the FA Cup.
It doesn't get more gritty and real than Stoke away on your first afternoon in the Premier League. Having watched Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth try to head-butt Fernando Torres' skull into dust, and Rory Delap hurl his quarterback bombs into the penalty area, the suave metrosexual probably wondered if he'd made the right decision to leave Portugal while he was supping a bitter-shandy opposite a towel-clad Tony Pulis in the manager's office after the game. :rotfl:
But that's not to say AVB won't have learnt a few things from Chelsea's bore draw, far from it. He's probably surmised that given how old his squad is he may as well bring himself on in the latter stages to freshen things up a bit, he will have seen how much contempt the rest of the country has for his left-back and marvelled at Fernando Torres - the £50 million man who can't score.
He lucky Pulis had a towel wrapped around him; Pulis was the manager who ran out of the shower naked, to confront one of his players in the locker room!
Post by: mukumsplau on August 19, 2011, 10:13:53 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 12:37:45 AM
i was thinking...i dont really cater for chelsea but id hate to see either of those two backups in goal...ive read somehere that chesea were interested in marco storari...in my and a good bit of ppls opinion he is too good to be a backup...ill hate to see him eave but the guy is too good for our or anyone else's bench..
I eh find Hilario is as bad as people make him out to be man. He may have had one or two hairy moments but remember that the very first time he had to step in for Cech with his head injury, Hilario gave a very good account of himself, especially in his very first game. Of the two of them, I am far more comfortable with Hilario and he have plenty goodwill he could still cash in on. That being said, though, Chelsea were trying, at one time, to acquire the services of the man that made a nightmare of all their goalscoring efforts last week in Begovic. I was really hoping they woulda get him but his performances don't warrant him being no back-up man, either.
Post by: Blue on August 20, 2011, 03:49:15 AM
i was thinking...i dont really cater for chelsea but id hate to see either of those two backups in goal...ive read somehere that chesea were interested in marco storari...in my and a good bit of ppls opinion he is too good to be a backup...ill hate to see him eave but the guy is too good for our or anyone else's bench..
I eh find Hilario is as bad as people make him out to be man. He may have had one or two hairy moments but remember that the very first time he had to step in for Cech with his head injury, Hilario gave a very good account of himself, especially in his very first game. Of the two of them, I am far more comfortable with Hilario and he have plenty goodwill he could still cash in on. That being said, though, Chelsea were trying, at one time, to acquire the services of the man that made a nightmare of all their goalscoring efforts last week in Begovic. I was really hoping they woulda get him but his performances don't warrant him being no back-up man, either.
Hilario is shite. We signed the 6'6'' Belgian international Courtois this summer who looks awesome, but unfortunately he's already been loaned out to Atletico Madrid and cant be recalled. I would prefer to see Turnbull play than Hilario, but pretty sure he will start wid HH.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 10:36:52 AM
i was thinking...i dont really cater for chelsea but id hate to see either of those two backups in goal...ive read somehere that chesea were interested in marco storari...in my and a good bit of ppls opinion he is too good to be a backup...ill hate to see him eave but the guy is too good for our or anyone else's bench..
I eh find Hilario is as bad as people make him out to be man. He may have had one or two hairy moments but remember that the very first time he had to step in for Cech with his head injury, Hilario gave a very good account of himself, especially in his very first game. Of the two of them, I am far more comfortable with Hilario and he have plenty goodwill he could still cash in on. That being said, though, Chelsea were trying, at one time, to acquire the services of the man that made a nightmare of all their goalscoring efforts last week in Begovic. I was really hoping they woulda get him but his performances don't warrant him being no back-up man, either.
Hilario is shite. We signed the 6'6'' Belgian international Courtois this summer who looks awesome, but unfortunately he's already been loaned out to Atletico Madrid and cant be recalled. I would prefer to see Turnbull play than Hilario, but pretty sure he will start wid HH.
Funny, the man is such shit but he has been the preferred backup to Cech ever since Cudiccini left. This on a team that could buy and sell players as they please. Apparently the GK coaches and coaching staff disagree with your evaluation. Not to mention, Courtois is not the first tall, young, "awesome" Belgian international 'keeper they had...that also got loaned out and then eventually opted for starting GK status elsewhere. Hilario will do just fine in the uprights filling in for Cech. He obviously isn't the best 'keeper on the team otherwise Cech would be on the bench himself. But to call the man shit is just riidiculous.
Post by: giggsy11 on August 20, 2011, 10:50:17 AM
Post by: Daft Trini on August 20, 2011, 11:19:24 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
Somebody needs tuh tell Kalou he looks like a black Tintin with dat hairstyle. Cah believe he still on this team.
After all de nonsense he had talk 'bout wanting to leave. (But at least Tintin was a smart fella....as was de dog. Kalou have no sense ah-TALL!)
Post by: giggsy11 on August 20, 2011, 11:24:56 AM
Somebody needs tuh tell Kalou he looks like a black Tintin with dat hairstyle. Cah believe he still on this team.
After all de nonsense he had talk 'bout wanting to leave. (But at least Tintin was a smart fella....as was de dog. Kalou have no sense ah-TALL!)
Tintin was the bess! ;D But it doesn't look like Kalou's role or impressions of him has changed. Man geh hauled off 30minutes after kick off! Ah feel fellas like him and Anelka stickin around because dey paycheck sweet.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 11:28:17 AM
The Torres investment :devil:
Torres actually playing decent and workin' hard....is de men aroung him (Lampard, Kalou, Ramires) dat stinkin' up de joint. I still tryin' to figure out what has Lampard's role on the team transformed into over the years
Post by: injunchile on August 20, 2011, 11:30:28 AM
kalo instead of Malouda and Anelka instead of Drogba. This coach aint serious.
Post by: giggsy11 on August 20, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
The Torres investment :devil:
Torres actually playing decent and workin' hard....is de men aroung him (Lampard, Kalou, Ramires) dat stinkin' up de joint. I still tryin' to figure out what has Lampard's role on the team transformed into over the years
Listen if Lampard was not English and considered English 'elite' he would have been eating bench already. Drogba was once considered part of the spine along with Terry, Lampard and Cech. See who loss dey spot first; when outta that four Lampard has been the least effective injury or no injury.
Post by: dinho on August 20, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 11:39:13 AM
Somebody needs tuh tell Kalou he looks like a black Tintin with dat hairstyle. Cah believe he still on this team.
After all de nonsense he had talk 'bout wanting to leave. (But at least Tintin was a smart fella....as was de dog. Kalou have no sense ah-TALL!)
Tintin was the bess! ;D But it doesn't look like Kalou's role or impressions of him has changed. Man geh hauled off 30minutes after kick off! Ah feel fellas like him and Anelka stickin around because dey paycheck sweet.
I might be a little biased but ah still willing to give Anelka a small bligh. Kalou is very good at creating space for himself but finds himself in said space and just go into brain-freeze! (Tintin was good but Asterix and Obelix is what was REALLY bess!) l
[A big strong man like Alex get hussled off the ball by this little fella- unbelievable./quote]
kalo instead of Malouda and Anelka instead of Drogba. This coach aint serious.
...Make yuh wonder if is really de coach callin' de shots sometimes...
Post by: giggsy11 on August 20, 2011, 11:52:11 AM
Post by: dinho on August 20, 2011, 12:02:26 PM
So who's that lady on Chelsea's bench
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2026367/Eva-Carneiro-joins-Chelsea-bench.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2026367/Eva-Carneiro-joins-Chelsea-bench.html)
It wasn't just Didier Drogba attracting attention on the Chelsea bench at Stoke on Sunday.
Reserve team doctor Eva Carneiro also took her place on the sidelines.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/16/article-2026367-0D6DC50E00000578-413_468x357.jpg)
Blues girl: Eva Carneiro (far right) sits with Chelsea boss Andre Villa-Boas and co
Carneiro previously worked for the England women's team and helped British athletes for the Beijing Olympics.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2026367/Eva-Carneiro-joins-Chelsea-bench.html#ixzz1VapNgqlM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 12:03:37 PM
Why are Kalou and Anelka still here? Dem men was to get sell since July 1.
De only way Chelsea could get dem fellas sold is if dey get left in some box in an abandoned storage space...end up ob "Storage Wars".
...So Malouda still hasn't learned that you have to deliver your crosses AWAY from de 'keeper?! Steuwps!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 20, 2011, 12:12:42 PM
Odomwingie on wit 15 mins to go....I glad he didn't start. He too dam quick fuh Alex and Terry....we better handle these last 15 or is problems.
All yuh mananger coachin basketball or what; how he continuously barkin instructions so? ;D
Post by: Blue on August 20, 2011, 01:35:10 PM
I still not feeling dis Torres thing. He worked hard and dribbled very well, which was good, but he never actually looked like getting a shot off, much less scoring a goal. Noone seemed to be able to hit him with a decent pass. I thought preseason was meant to be about building those kind of connections, I guess not...On the other hand, Drogba came on and didnt play that well, but the players around him understood how to play to his strengths...suddenly Malouda, Anelka, Bosingwa and Lampard had a focal point for their attacks and crosses were being played into the box. Suddenly West Brom were having to double team our centre forward, opening up space elsewhere.
Man of the Match for me was Malouda...he was pretty much the only attacking force Chelsea had for most of the game. Glad he was the player that got the winner, he deserved it. Hopefully AVB wont be so dotish as to pick Kalou over him again.
Post by: kicker on August 20, 2011, 06:29:35 PM
Odomwingie on wit 15 mins to go....I glad he didn't start. He too dam quick fuh Alex and Terry....we better handle these last 15 or is problems.
I hear you on this guy...I'm surprised he didn't get picked up by a bigger squad in the off-season transfer market- Very impressed with this fella - Kinda reminds me of Careca with his turns, quick first step and one-touch play...Not to mention his ability to find the net....He almost punished Chelsea down the stretch but the rustiness got the better of him...Think he's been injured for a while, and actually didn't re-sign with Brom until recently so I don't think he played much pre-season...
Post by: doublet750 on August 21, 2011, 09:21:07 AM
Just back from the game. We not really looking any better than how we finished last season. I don't see any major tactical differences between AVB and Ancelotti. AVB seems to favour having Boswinga at RB instead of Ivanovic, giving us slightly more attacking potential, but daz it really.
I still not feeling dis Torres thing. He worked hard and dribbled very well, which was good, but he never actually looked like getting a shot off, much less scoring a goal. Noone seemed to be able to hit him with a decent pass. I thought preseason was meant to be about building those kind of connections, I guess not...On the other hand, Drogba came on and didnt play that well, but the players around him understood how to play to his strengths...suddenly Malouda, Anelka, Bosingwa and Lampard had a focal point for their attacks and crosses were being played into the box. Suddenly West Brom were having to double team our centre forward, opening up space elsewhere.
Man of the Match for me was Malouda...he was pretty much the only attacking force Chelsea had for most of the game. Glad he was the player that got the winner, he deserved it. Hopefully AVB wont be so dotish as to pick Kalou over him again.
ur views are very well noted and i aint go lie yuh have some rellll good points....torres sharpness as far as finishing like he used to torment teams before still aint up to par yet and preseason was meant to build that connection but so is training and sadly there is no central creative genius in our team that can give him the service he need....@ liverpool he was spoilt with players with an eye for a pass like Gerrard and Xabi Alonso......frankly Super Frank has some nice passes but he CANT match their range and ability.
On a whole fellas Torres HAD to start ...think of it like this ...strikers is confidence players they need that arm round d shoulder and belief from everybody that they could lead the attack....so i figure after the presason teh thinking is let we get this 50mill investment to start off confident ...is early days still he could either impress and finally break through or flop and Drogba reignite the side.
As far as confidence look at it this way think of having it as a blessing and not having it as a slight mental injury. Torres lacking it BAD right now and Drogba KNOWS he is the man....so as a Coach knowing when they both up on confidence they can be deadly i figure AVB thinking he go start with the LEsser confidence give him a chance to build it and he either come through or get replaced by the man we expect to do the job. (not to say that torres would start ALL season ....but is early days still and we have aout 60 games in all comp to play )
i think we really need natural width from our midfielders and a creative force coming in....Mata is on the verge of joining and ive heard another bid in the works for Modric....facts are tho that Mata is similar to Malouda....Left sided players that can play somewhat as a #10 but how do u acomodate the two in the same squad. as for Modric if he plays this week for Spurs in Europe on Thursday i believe he will be ineligble for Champions League duty and what use would he be to us?
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 21, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
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Post by: Blue on August 21, 2011, 01:07:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14600979.stm
If we still want Modric this means we'll have 2 sell a foreign player (Benayoun) to meet the homegrown squad requirements.
Post by: JDB on August 21, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
On a whole fellas Torres HAD to start ...think of it like this ...strikers is confidence players they need that arm round d shoulder and belief from everybody that they could lead the attack....
Why Torres have to start. Chelsea have 4 or 5 strikers and one of them is more useful and a better all-round player than Torres. How come Torres need confidence so?
the thinking is let we get this 50mill investment to start off confident ...is early days still he could either impress and finally break through or flop and Drogba reignite the side.
Or Hor? Well if they playing a man just because he cost 50M they going to have problems. Torres is a good player but if the plan is to ignite Torres and somehow get a 50M pound player they in real trouble.
It is more evident with every game that Torres excelled in that very specific Liverpool counter-attacking brand where Gerrard and Alonso would look to spring him on every second ball. Torres great skill is to run at defenders and dribble, twist them, turn them and let go bullet. Work like a charm in Rafa counter-attack system but Chelsea's build up is slow and Torres taking on 2 and 3 men on the edge of the box instead of the last stopper midway in the opposition half.
Even if he regain "confidence" yuh look at a 15-20 goal man, not a 50M dollar player, unless they plan to set up they whole team and style of play around one man
Post by: Tongue on August 23, 2011, 08:31:34 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 23, 2011, 08:44:52 AM
good mix of young and older players. watch de danger.
Since when Chelski gives youte a chance? Lets see how many games the young midfielder, Sturridge and who else all yuh have that is young gets.
Post by: Blue on August 23, 2011, 12:42:24 PM
good mix of young and older players. watch de danger.
Since when Chelski gives youte a chance? Lets see how many games the young midfielder, Sturridge and who else all yuh have that is young gets.
Probably not many, most of those fellas have been bought as backups so that we can comply with the 'homegrown' requirements (since we are only allowed 17 non-homegrown players and under 21s don't count towards that limit).
Also, its not really in our interest to play Romeu too much this season...Barca have a buy-back clause in place for the first couple of years.
Post by: Blue on August 23, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
(http://juanmata10.com/bancofotos/fotos/3/614.jpg)
"I want to come to England to win trophies - and that's why I accepted Chelsea's offer. It was also a question of sporting achievement, not money. Arsenal and Tottenham were both interested in me but they did not compare with the Blues. I want the Premier League title and this is possible at Chelsea"
Post by: Tongue on August 24, 2011, 10:58:35 AM
Post by: Bakes on August 27, 2011, 09:45:41 AM
Bosingwa with a laser strike in the 6' to put Chelsea up, but as becoming the norm for them Norwich not giving up w/o a fight. Hilario went on a walkabout on a cross to the edge of the box... what he was doing 16-yards from goal only he know. He and Ivanovic went for it and Ivanovic put it straight up and backwards while Hilario flapped at it... Grant Holt immediately hook it over he head and into the goal.
A minute later Drogba went up for the ball in the opposite box and get knock out clean... light was out before he even hit the ground. Make it worse he get windmilled in the air a bit and fall face first on the turf... stretchered off in the 63'.
Then in the 80' Ramires took an absolute dive in the box (but very convincing, ref didn't have much choice it looked like a foul. Make it worse, keeper get sent off even though Ramires was "going away from goal" as Phil Dowd (that idiot... who is today's 4th official) ruled on the Suarez penalty two weeks ago to keep Mignolet in the game. Lampard with the penalty to even the game.
Post by: kicker on August 27, 2011, 10:14:18 AM
Mata came on and changed Chelsea style of play for the better, and put the nail in the coffin for the goal...He looks to be a good signing.
Post by: Blue on August 27, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
I hope Drogba isnt badly injured. I havent seen a replay yet, but it looked very bad in real time, and you could see the concern on the players faces.
Two very bright sparks today - Lukaku and Mata. Two fantastic debuts, they're already fan favourites. They both wanted the ball and were not afraid to take on players, changing the game completely. Mata looks exceptional and the place erupted when he scored. He was Man of the Match even though he played less than half the match.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_2206.jpg)
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Post by: Blue on August 27, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2434327,00.html
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Mexican Under-20 international Ulises Davila from Chivas.
Davila, who has signed a five-year contract, can play either as an attacking midfielder or a forward.
Standing 5ft 7in, he is accomplished with the ball at his feet and a fine finisher with a strong team ethic.
The 20-year-old represented his country at this year's Under-20 World Cup in Colombia, helping them to a bronze medal with a goal in their 3-1 third-place play-off win over Gael Kakuta's France, and appearing in all seven of their competitive matches.
http://www.youtube.com/v/h8tgl9ohQf4
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 27, 2011, 12:25:27 PM
CHELSEA SIGN ULISES DAVILA
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2434327,00.html
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Mexican Under-20 international Ulises Davila from Chivas.
Hmmm, Man U showed that a Mexican can do well in the Prem, and everyone following suit. 'Pool was supposedly tracking Marco Bueno. Haven't heard much since the trial he was supposed to go on.
Davila, who has signed a five-year contract, can play either as an attacking midfielder or a forward.
Standing 5ft 7in, he is accomplished with the ball at his feet and a fine finisher with a strong team ethic.
The 20-year-old represented his country at this year's Under-20 World Cup in Colombia, helping them to a bronze medal with a goal in their 3-1 third-place play-off win over Gael Kakuta's France, and appearing in all seven of their competitive matches.
http://www.youtube.com/v/h8tgl9ohQf4
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 27, 2011, 01:56:59 PM
This looks serious. I understand he will be released from hospital tonight (london time)
Post by: Blue on August 27, 2011, 02:00:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/TdCmpfcFDNQ
This looks serious. I understand he will be released from hospital tonight (london time)
the chelsea website says he had a mild concussion, so it looks like he'll be back to normal in a few days, fingers crossed.
Post by: Peong on August 27, 2011, 02:18:00 PM
Post by: D.H.W on August 27, 2011, 02:36:28 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on August 27, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
Get well Drog!
Post by: Bakes on August 27, 2011, 03:06:13 PM
I think Ramires was fouled, but I (as expressed on many occasions), don't agree with that blanket red card rule... It hurts teams more than is deserved...
Mata came on and changed Chelsea style of play for the better, and put the nail in the coffin for the goal...He looks to be a good signing.
Agree on both points... I was harsh on Ramires after pausing and watching frame by frame there was contact, but he went looking for it and managed to dip his knee into Ruddy's side. I not vex with him though... that's what yuh supposed to do. I just vex to see a man hustle penalized, especially when it wasn't anything careless or reckless. But the ref ent have nutten to do with that.
The red card only serves to revive the debate about what is a DOGSO... same exactly play as the Richardson foul on Suarez in the season opener at Anfield... except this time the keeper fouls him. Yellow card for Richardson because Suarez was "going away from goal"... straight red for Ruddy. Lost in all of that was the beauty of a ball by Anelka to spring Ramires.
Mata looked good for real... he seemed to settle the Chelse attack a bit... Lukaku looked dangerous as well.
I ent the biggest Drogba fan... but I felt that one for him. Hope he recovers not only quickly (but not too quick ;D ) but fully as well.
Post by: Observer on August 27, 2011, 03:30:36 PM
Post by: D.H.W on August 27, 2011, 03:40:53 PM
Post by: Bakes on August 27, 2011, 04:12:13 PM
Now that Torres at Chelsea he still suffers from that service... which is why Chelsea was pursuing Modric as they did, why they bought Mata. Time will tell if the Mata move it will pay off, not only for Chelsea but for him as well.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 27, 2011, 04:47:18 PM
I think Ramires was fouled, but I (as expressed on many occasions), don't agree with that blanket red card rule... It hurts teams more than is deserved...
Mata came on and changed Chelsea style of play for the better, and put the nail in the coffin for the goal...He looks to be a good signing.
There was a lot of contact but you could see Ramires was more than happy to play for the foul and when a GK is committed to diving at a player's feet, it is VERY easy for said player to play for the foul. A real harsh decision to red-card a 'keeper because he is telegraphing his intentions and cannot pull out of it.
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2011, 11:22:17 AM
A real harsh decision to red-card a 'keeper because he is telegraphing his intentions and cannot pull out of it.
Yeah he just got beaten to the ball... happens all over the field but for whatever reason it's a red card offense if you're the last man in defense...
Post by: Blue on August 31, 2011, 03:36:17 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 31, 2011, 03:46:20 PM
Benayoun officially gone, and Raul Meireles hands in a transfer request with half an hour to go. Transfer Deadline Day is awesome.
would be a great signing... I rate Raul Meireles alot... and If you guys get him then maybe we can buy unhappy Luka in January or next summer.. because he is the perfect fit for United
Post by: giggsy11 on August 31, 2011, 04:09:16 PM
Benayoun officially gone, and Raul Meireles hands in a transfer request with half an hour to go. Transfer Deadline Day is awesome.
Allegedly Chelski and Liverstool agreed on a fee just player's personal terms to be sorted.
So is that taxi for Obi Mikel or Lumpard?
Post by: Blue on August 31, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
Benayoun officially gone, and Raul Meireles hands in a transfer request with half an hour to go. Transfer Deadline Day is awesome.
Allegedly Chelski and Liverstool agreed on a fee just player's personal terms to be sorted.
So is that taxi for Obi Mikel or Lumpard?
Boom Bang, Meireles signing confirmed. Benayoun's taxi left already.
Post by: dinho on August 31, 2011, 06:58:27 PM
I think is about time Lampard see some bench, he clearly in the decline phase. Just too slow and methodical right now in the build-up and no longer making the trademark late runs into the box. Much fewer shots on goal and not even a factor on free kicks..
I would experiment with a midfield of Mikel (until Essien comes back), Meireles, Mata, Malouda.
Also, why are Kalou and Anelka still here ???
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 01, 2011, 08:01:40 AM
Meireles is a good buy..
I think is about time Lampard see some bench, he clearly in the decline phase. Just too slow and methodical right now in the build-up and no longer making the trademark late runs into the box. Much fewer shots on goal and not even a factor on free kicks..
I would experiment with a midfield of Mikel (until Essien comes back), Meireles, Mata, Malouda.
Also, why are Kalou and Anelka still here ???
Kalou is definitely a mistery to me buh hoss I wouldn sell Nico doh. I is not he biggest fan eh buh nuff times when Torres and even Drogba not having impact Nico does make something happen. I just hate the inconsistency with him and what sometimes seems like ah "i really doh give ah f**k" attitude displayed thru his body language. He is good insurance until Lukaku fully ready (which lookin like now still eh lol), and Sturridge ready to announce heself. I really want to see Sturridge geh some burn soon doh 'cause de yute have talent as he showed with Bolton last season.
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2011, 08:29:17 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 01, 2011, 08:45:37 AM
Sturridge reminds me alot of Brazilian Diego (Bremen, Juve, Wolfsburg and now Atletico) - loads of talent without having a particular clear outstanding asset to cement their star quality in a big side.... so coaches doh build a team around them...so what happens is that they just kinda play wherever they fit in and alotta times the fit is not a natural fit...Benayoun had the same problem at Liverpool until Gerard started having injury problems - then he was the man. Only at Bremen did they build the team around Diego (Diego and Frings)... and he killed it...Look what happend with Sturridge -went Bolton and was the big fish...He was on fire..It's a kinda too big for a small side, but too small for a big side syndrome.
I see yuh POV buh I eh buying that just yet. I definitely dont see the team being organized to specifically accomodate him but I think he has good skills and is more speedy than almost all our forwards. If given an opportunity in AVB system where he seems to like having his wingers cut inside and make plays I expect Sturridge to shine. Also his speed and solid finishing ability will cause problems on counter attacks. I want him to be unleashed and have a chance to do his thing as he clearly has the quality to impact games. I think Carlo was stifling him a bit and it got worse when he started searching week to week and looking like he lost the plot early on last season before DS went out on loan to Bolton.
Post by: doublet750 on September 01, 2011, 10:13:52 AM
I must say though i DO believe that Mata will show enough to make us forget about Modric till next year. With Mata and Meireless we have two midfielders eager to prove that they can add something to the team and i expect them to bring some inventive spark to the team.....not saying that they are renowned magicians but i think they add something to the team that was stagnant--the unexpected.....not to mention they both have layed with Torres
sad that yossi couldnt stay i thought he too was impressive in pre season and would have a good year but best of luc to him shame its gona be at Arsenal
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2011, 10:32:58 AM
Meireles is a good buy..
I think is about time Lampard see some bench, he clearly in the decline phase. Just too slow and methodical right now in the build-up and no longer making the trademark late runs into the box. Much fewer shots on goal and not even a factor on free kicks..
I would experiment with a midfield of Mikel (until Essien comes back), Meireles, Mata, Malouda.
Also, why are Kalou and Anelka still here ???
Kalou is definitely a mistery to me buh hoss I wouldn sell Nico doh. I is not he biggest fan eh buh nuff times when Torres and even Drogba not having impact Nico does make something happen. I just hate the inconsistency with him and what sometimes seems like ah "i really doh give ah f**k" attitude displayed thru his body language. He is good insurance until Lukaku fully ready (which lookin like now still eh lol), and Sturridge ready to announce heself. I really want to see Sturridge geh some burn soon doh 'cause de yute have talent as he showed with Bolton last season.
Basically same thing I was sayin' the other day....I is a big Anelka fan but he could be rel frustrating sometimes....but I still think we gout get a lil' more juice outta he more than Kalou. Kalou IS talented but he more chupid than what people say Theo Walcott is. I am glad Chelsea loaned out their youths and I hope they keep them. We will have to transition them fellas soon enough. As far a Sturridge is concerned, I like his hunger (greed) and his industry. He is still young and not everybody could impact like a wayne rooney so I willing to give him some time to blossom. I am sorry to see Benayoun go, though....his work rate and aggression is more of what we need in midfield. We have had some good midfielders on this team, only to have them be pigeon-holed, deferred, or let go because of Chelsea's loyalty to Lampard. Time for him to defer to other players.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 01, 2011, 10:55:34 AM
Basically same thing I was sayin' the other day....I is a big Anelka fan but he could be rel frustrating sometimes....but I still think we gout get a lil' more juice outta he more than Kalou. Kalou IS talented but he more chupid than what people say Theo Walcott is. I am glad Chelsea loaned out their youths and I hope they keep them. We will have to transition them fellas soon enough. As far a Sturridge is concerned, I like his hunger (greed) and his industry. He is still young and not everybody could impact like a wayne rooney so I willing to give him some time to blossom. I am sorry to see Benayoun go, though....his work rate and aggression is more of what we need in midfield. We have had some good midfielders on this team, only to have them be pigeon-holed, deferred, or let go because of Chelsea's loyalty to Lampard. Time for him to defer to other players.
We've had plenty boss midfielders wasted over the years. Man could say wha dey want but I still believe Ballack at the time we got him would have been far more valuable playing his natural position and even Deco too. Benayoun to me represents exactly what has been missing for a while now in our midfield and I too would have rather had him than not. but as a fan of football I rather see him go and actually get to play than rot away on our bench constantly.
Post by: JDB on September 02, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
If Villas Boas had balls he would line up with
Mata Lukaku Sturridge
Ramires Romeu Mereiles
Fitness provided of course.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 02, 2011, 04:16:25 PM
Sturridge look good for Chelsea in preseason. There is nothing wrong with him other then teh fact that he yet to get a real run at either City or Chelsea
If Villas Boas had balls he would line up with
Mata Lukaku Sturridge
Ramires Romeu Mereiles
Fitness provided of course.
I seriously am left to wonder if is balls dem Chelsea coaches doh have or if is autonomy. Me eh know, so it is what it is.
Post by: elan on September 05, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
Post by: JDB on September 11, 2011, 08:51:42 PM
Sturridge look good for Chelsea in preseason. There is nothing wrong with him other then teh fact that he yet to get a real run at either City or Chelsea
If Villas Boas had balls he would line up with
Mata Lukaku Sturridge
Ramires Romeu Mereiles
Fitness provided of course.
I seriously am left to wonder if is balls dem Chelsea coaches doh have or if is autonomy. Me eh know, so it is what it is.
Looks like Villas Boas wasn't too far off this weekend
Mata Anelka Sturridge
Lampard Meireles Ramires
At least he show the good sense to bench Torres. Lampard in line for the chop too
Post by: injunchile on September 12, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
Post by: Peong on September 18, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on September 18, 2011, 09:00:42 PM
Selector: I saw Zion in a vision ... H'aaal and PUUULL UP dat!!!
Then draw: Think you're in heaven but you're living in hell
Post by: Daft Trini on September 18, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Post by: Bourbon on September 19, 2011, 06:01:07 AM
After that miss...yuh realise that is not just a monkey.....like is planet of the apes.
Post by: injunchile on September 19, 2011, 06:28:04 AM
Post by: doublet750 on September 19, 2011, 09:41:49 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 19, 2011, 09:49:42 AM
its like he could run hard and do alot to improve he confidence and in the very next sequence he can shoot it down.....what must he be thinking now
"damn ah think ah might be worse dan Kenwayne Jones right now oui" :rotfl:
Post by: dinho on September 19, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
I to the point where I actually feeling sorry for de man, i aint like to see people suffer. That first goal was the Torres of old and after that the man was ah man on a mission... Running hard, pressuring the back line.. Had ah play where he cut Evans on de top of the box and put him to sit down and then slap just wide of the post.. Ah say aaahpps boy, de man find back he mojo..
And then that miss...
If i wasn't sure before, i sure now.. A corbeaux definitely shit on the man head!
On the positive side, a few things to take from this game:
- Man U, while deserved winners are definitely vulnerable as suspected... 22 shots conceded and a shaky De Gea showed that the game could have easily gone in a different direction. They have some goal to get.
- Impressed with the in-game man management by AVB. I was happy with the starting line-up, showed some balls to take off Lampard when it was clear he was not up to the pace and bring on Anelka who made a difference.. Also subbed off Sturridge at the right time although Lukaku didnt offer much upon coming on. I would like to see Mikel holding and Lampard on the bench on the evidence of yesterday.
- Horrendous miss aside, Torres was very effective and if he doesn't let it get to him he will come good. Meireles and Mata make a definite difference to the type of service he gets and the way the Chelsea game flows.
- Chelsea will be there fighting for the title, they will peak at the right time.
Post by: mukumsplau on September 19, 2011, 01:30:57 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 19, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
- Man U, while deserved winners are definitely vulnerable as suspected... 22 shots conceded and a shaky De Gea showed that the game could have easily gone in a different direction. They have some goal to get.
I think the reason we have been vulnerable is down to lack of experience.. while the youth and over exuberance brings fast exciting attacks while using more attack minded CM's rather than Carrick who sits deeper protecting or a 100% Fit Fletcher
Vidic has been injured since the season start as has Rio who only played 90 mins vs Bolton this season
De Gea is 20 and new to the league and going through his adjustment period and to be fair every game he looks better and had a pretty solid game yesterday especially with the save off Ramires
Smalling is 22 and playing RB for the first time in his career, he is getting better at it
Jones 19 Evans 23 have been our first choice CB's due to injury to the more experienced pair and while both have done well especially Jones they will be exposed at times due to lack of experience and pressure at United
Anderson and Cleverley started the season as the CM's.. both full of energy but bith attack minded so inevitably they would leave gaps to be exposed, they are both 23 and 22 as well.
We have had the 5 hardest games of any of the teams in the league vs Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea at home and West Brom and Bolton away.. we have used a team in the first 5 games of the season where the average age was 22-23, we have won all 5 games, we have scored 21 goals in 5 games and conceded just 4
Of those numerous shot count against us in all 5 games less than half were on target in each case and majority were shots from outside the box and not clear goalscoring opportunities
While we have let the opposition use the space our attacking play have allowed them and with a very young backline including te keeper we have literally blown opposition away by scoring countless goals
With Rio, Vidic, Rafael coming back to fitness the defence will be stronger as well as the experience gained from Jones Smalling Evans in the time being. De Gea is getting stronger, Fletcher and Valencia are on their way back to fitness as well as Cleverley, and with Rooney playing great and 9 goals in 5 prem games we are just getting started
Post by: kicker on September 19, 2011, 03:06:21 PM
The guy mis-hit the ball on an open goal - nothing to do with ability or even form... just hard luck...
I actually thought he had a good game.
Post by: Controversial on September 19, 2011, 03:29:42 PM
Dunno why people making such a big deal of that Torres miss... The guy having a bad run of form, but that miss is indicative of nothing more than hard luck...No amount o' bad form causin' yuh tuh throw away that...
The guy mis-hit the ball on an open goal - nothing to do with ability or even form... just hard luck...
I actually thought he had a good game.
that was actually a difficult shot to make because of the angle and he was using his left foot, he should have tried to use the outside of his right foot, it would have given him a better chance at putting that goal away
rooney slip at the penalty spot was also surprising, alot of chances went a begging on both sides imo
Post by: Bakes on September 19, 2011, 03:41:34 PM
that was actually a difficult shot to make because of the angle and he was using his left foot, he should have tried to use the outside of his right foot, it would have given him a better chance at putting that goal away
You never cease to amaze yes...
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 19, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
Dunno why people making such a big deal of that Torres miss... The guy having a bad run of form, but that miss is indicative of nothing more than hard luck...No amount o' bad form causin' yuh tuh throw away that...
The guy mis-hit the ball on an open goal - nothing to do with ability or even form... just hard luck...
I actually thought he had a good game.
True, he did have a good game. Last few games he looking better and better actually. I expect much better from him going forward. I guess after the way latch onto the through ball and waltz around De Gea people were expecting a tap-in, hence the shock. I was certainly shocked. De man had United dead and buried on that play.
Post by: Controversial on September 19, 2011, 04:23:59 PM
that was actually a difficult shot to make because of the angle and he was using his left foot, he should have tried to use the outside of his right foot, it would have given him a better chance at putting that goal away
You never cease to amaze yes...
i know you are amazed by my intelligence and brilliance 8)
thank you for the compliment :beermug:
Post by: Controversial on September 19, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
Dunno why people making such a big deal of that Torres miss... The guy having a bad run of form, but that miss is indicative of nothing more than hard luck...No amount o' bad form causin' yuh tuh throw away that...
The guy mis-hit the ball on an open goal - nothing to do with ability or even form... just hard luck...
I actually thought he had a good game.
another option would have been his inside left, i believe he had the time and space, you are correct though, it was a mis-hit
Post by: asylumseeker on September 19, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
Dunno why people making such a big deal of that Torres miss... The guy having a bad run of form, but that miss is indicative of nothing more than hard luck...No amount o' bad form causin' yuh tuh throw away that...
The guy mis-hit the ball on an open goal - nothing to do with ability or even form... just hard luck...
I actually thought he had a good game.
Plain and simple: because it was a big deal under the circumstances. Guaranteed big deal to Fergie and AVB. Likely the most influential miss of the game.
We get the technical deficiency as applied. Do you get the lack of concentration involved in not executing? The miss is indicative of more than hard luck. Would your college coach have chalked that up to mere hard luck?
Post by: elan on September 19, 2011, 08:00:49 PM
Dunno why people making such a big deal of that Torres miss... The guy having a bad run of form, but that miss is indicative of nothing more than hard luck...No amount o' bad form causin' yuh tuh throw away that...
The guy mis-hit the ball on an open goal - nothing to do with ability or even form... just hard luck...
I actually thought he had a good game.
Plain and simple: because it was a big deal under the circumstances. Guaranteed big deal to Fergie and AVB. Likely the most influential miss of the game.
We get the technical deficiency as applied. Do you get the lack of concentration involved in not executing? The miss is indicative of more than hard luck. Would your college coach have chalked that up to mere hard luck?
That right their in travel soccer is ah bench. :devil:
Lack of technical application resulting from a lack of concentration.
Post by: Bakes on September 19, 2011, 08:02:35 PM
i know you are amazed by my intelligence and brilliance 8)
thank you for the compliment :beermug:
Your genius defies description.
Post by: Bakes on September 19, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
That right their in travel soccer is ah bench. :devil:
Lack of technical application resulting from a lack of concentration.
I surprise that nobody mentioning the fact that he touch was too heavy rounding the keeper... then like the ball was wider than where he expected it to be as he kicked it.
Technical aspects aside, it would be folly to just dismiss the magnitude of the miss in light of his colossal struggles, itself placed in light of his colossal transfer fee... itself viewed in the context of his colossal finger to Liverpool FC.
Post by: lefty on September 19, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
i know you are amazed by my intelligence and brilliance 8)
thank you for the compliment :beermug:
Your genius defies description.
:laugh: sweet :D
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 19, 2011, 11:35:58 PM
Chelsea fans scarce!
Nah, we right here! Men probably jes busy....
Today Torres had a glimpse of Heaven and Hell, buh ended up dying blindfolded on the Road to Damascus. Poor fella.:devil:
Selector: I saw Zion in a vision ... H'aaal and PUUULL UP dat!!!
Then draw: Think you're in heaven but you're living in hell
Something told me last week he woulda score against United and get rel confidence and get the monkey off his back.
After that miss...yuh realise that is not just a monkey.....like is planet of the apes.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 19, 2011, 11:37:31 PM
its like he could run hard and do alot to improve he confidence and in the very next sequence he can shoot it down.....what must he be thinking now
"damn ah think ah might be worse dan Kenwayne Jones right now oui" :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
KJ ain't dat bad....he just cyah shoot, dize all.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 19, 2011, 11:49:33 PM
That right their in travel soccer is ah bench. :devil:
Lack of technical application resulting from a lack of concentration.
I surprise that nobody mentioning the fact that he touch was too heavy rounding the keeper... then like the ball was wider than where he expected it to be as he kicked it.
Technical aspects aside, it would be folly to just dismiss the magnitude of the miss in light of his colossal struggles, itself placed in light of his colossal transfer fee... itself viewed in the context of his colossal finger to Liverpool FC.
His touch being heavy rounding the 'keeper can only be attributed to De Gea being aggressive and doing his job well enough in a one-on-one situation. Credit to the 'keeper and not a big deal. He could have still put the ball away easily, heavy touch or not. But as bad a miss as it was, though, even if he scored it may not have changed the outcome of the game any more than the miss takes away from the good game Torres played. He is looked very much like his old self and as AVB continues to tinker with his team, he will find a winning formula. Torres will get over his bad miss and so will the chelsea faithful. Unfortunately, it is clear that the liverpool faithful still can't get over his departure, especially since he left for more money and to a better team. Too bad the 50M pounds allyuh got for Torres couldn't have been spent more wisely. From the looks of them shit goals that Pepe Reyna gave up this weekend, like is King Kenny shoulda be going after De Gea instead of fergie.
Post by: Bakes on September 20, 2011, 12:37:40 AM
His touch being heavy rounding the 'keeper can only be attributed to De Gea being aggressive and doing his job well enough in a one-on-one situation. Credit to the 'keeper and not a big deal. He could have still put the ball away easily, heavy touch or not. But as bad a miss as it was, though, even if he scored it may not have changed the outcome of the game any more than the miss takes away from the good game Torres played. He is looked very much like his old self and as AVB continues to tinker with his team, he will find a winning formula. Torres will get over his bad miss and so will the chelsea faithful. Unfortunately, it is clear that the liverpool faithful still can't get over his departure, especially since he left for more money and to a better team. Too bad the 50M pounds allyuh got for Torres couldn't have been spent more wisely. From the looks of them shit goals that Pepe Reyna gave up this weekend, like is King Kenny shoulda be going after De Gea instead of fergie.
His touch being heavy can only be attributed to just that... his touch was heavy. De Gea didn't force him into no heavy touch. As for all the talk about the "liverpool faithful"... in case yuh haven't noticed, Liverpool has ably replaced Torres, so no, nobody ent caught up "over his departure", unless yuh talking about the manner in which he did it. When management tired of a player they will get rid of them one way or another... that is business, so I fully support players being able to move on when they are unhappy. I will continue to take issue from time to time with how they do it however... just as I criticized Kenwyne for how he departed Southampton, same way I will criticize, and actively root against Torres for how he forced his way out the club as he did... and as a matter of fact, throw in Meireles too.
As for the rest of that talk about the Liverpool goalkeeping (not sure who "Reyna" is), Chelsea would take Pepe Reina over Cech any day now and you yuhself know that, so yuh wasting yuh time with that talk right dey.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 20, 2011, 02:05:26 AM
That right their in travel soccer is ah bench. :devil:
Lack of technical application resulting from a lack of concentration.
I surprise that nobody mentioning the fact that he touch was too heavy rounding the keeper... then like the ball was wider than where he expected it to be as he kicked it.
Technical aspects aside, it would be folly to just dismiss the magnitude of the miss in light of his colossal struggles, itself placed in light of his colossal transfer fee... itself viewed in the context of his colossal finger to Liverpool FC.
Speaking for myself, I eh mention that because:
While the touch took him wide, it's clear to most, if not all, observers that 'finishing' was still on. Also, while the touch took him wide it also accomplished two other things favourable to Torres: (1) it placed him closer to the goal line and (2) it achieved separation from the goalkeeper.
We can look at (2) as being a (3) because the goalkeeper was also the last defender ... separation from the last defender. Consequently, the sole remaining obstacle to Torres scoring was himself.
The angle available for the attempt on goal was not acute. Here's the kerosene and the match: Nasri addressed the argument on acute angles with his goal last season under circumstances less conducive to scoring.
There is no excuse for Torres not scoring, but there is an explanation.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 20, 2011, 02:23:01 AM
His touch being heavy rounding the 'keeper can only be attributed to De Gea being aggressive and doing his job well enough in a one-on-one situation. Credit to the 'keeper and not a big deal. He could have still put the ball away easily, heavy touch or not. But as bad a miss as it was, though, even if he scored it may not have changed the outcome of the game any more than the miss takes away from the good game Torres played. He is looked very much like his old self and as AVB continues to tinker with his team, he will find a winning formula. Torres will get over his bad miss and so will the chelsea faithful. Unfortunately, it is clear that the liverpool faithful still can't get over his departure, especially since he left for more money and to a better team. Too bad the 50M pounds allyuh got for Torres couldn't have been spent more wisely. From the looks of them shit goals that Pepe Reyna gave up this weekend, like is King Kenny shoulda be going after De Gea instead of fergie.
His touch being heavy can only be attributed to just that... his touch was heavy. De Gea didn't force him into no heavy touch. As for all the talk about the "liverpool faithful"... in case yuh haven't noticed, Liverpool has ably replaced Torres, so no, nobody ent caught up "over his departure", unless yuh talking about the manner in which he did it. When management tired of a player they will get rid of them one way or another... that is business, so I fully support players being able to move on when they are unhappy. I will continue to take issue from time to time with how they do it however... just as I criticized Kenwyne for how he departed Southampton, same way I will criticize, and actively root against Torres for how he forced his way out the club as he did... and as a matter of fact, throw in Meireles too.
As for the rest of that talk about the Liverpool goalkeeping (not sure who "Reyna" is), Chelsea would take Pepe Reina over Cech any day now and you yuhself know that, so yuh wasting yuh time with that talk right dey.
So...you know that I know that Chelsea would take reyna/reina (who cares about the spelling?) over Petr Cech any day eh?! I guess you also know all the winning lottery numbers in all participating states for the next three weeks and the exact location where Jesus was buried. Nigga pleez! You're right, though. De Gea had nothing ::) to do with Torres overpushing the ball. He was just standing on his line waiting for Torres to shoot. Explain to me please (without your usual self-contraditory style) how you could "fully support" a player's right to leave a team and then take issue with the way they do it, especially when you cite the teams' cut-throat ability to release players at their whim. The way that players do it is merely a means to an end and more often than not, the only means they have, so why be bitter about it. liverpool could have easily rejected Chelsea's bid, not so? You goin' on and on and on about Torres makin' it seem more like he left you and not liverpool.
Post by: JDB on September 20, 2011, 04:58:26 AM
I wonder what men does tell Torres in de dressing room boy... Ah mean is how much "hard luck" yuh could tell ah man.
I to the point where I actually feeling sorry for de man, i aint like to see people suffer. That first goal was the Torres of old and after that the man was ah man on a mission... Running hard, pressuring the back line.. Had ah play where he cut Evans on de top of the box and put him to sit down and then slap just wide of the post.. Ah say aaahpps boy, de man find back he mojo..
And then that miss...
If i wasn't sure before, i sure now.. A corbeaux definitely shit on the man head!
On the positive side, a few things to take from this game:
- Man U, while deserved winners are definitely vulnerable as suspected... 22 shots conceded and a shaky De Gea showed that the game could have easily gone in a different direction. They have some goal to get.
- Impressed with the in-game man management by AVB. I was happy with the starting line-up, showed some balls to take off Lampard when it was clear he was not up to the pace and bring on Anelka who made a difference.. Also subbed off Sturridge at the right time although Lukaku didnt offer much upon coming on. I would like to see Mikel holding and Lampard on the bench on the evidence of yesterday.
- Horrendous miss aside, Torres was very effective and if he doesn't let it get to him he will come good. Meireles and Mata make a definite difference to the type of service he gets and the way the Chelsea game flows.
- Chelsea will be there fighting for the title, they will peak at the right time.
United are giving up chances because they are playing a very open attacking game. Right niw they reaping the benefits. There will always be a game where the shots will not go in and you will win more than you lose and for a fan it is great to watch.
It is also a definite change and they will get better as they get more comfortable.
Chelsea can take heart from their countless chances but this game was error strewn and despite their improvement they have to create them chances against teams who are not playing as openly as United. That has been Chelsea's problem so far.
Best news for them is that Villas Boas had the balls to drop Lampard. Meireles is a great buy fir them but they need to free him from the pivot role and play him alongside Mikel, Romeu or Essien.
Torres miss remind of Forlan vs Juventus in a preseason game.
Post by: dinho on September 20, 2011, 06:17:10 AM
How de ass his touch was too heavy if it take him around the keeper to a position all by himself in front the whole mudda c&#% goal? ???
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 07:37:21 AM
Allyuh smoking in here or what???
How de ass his touch was too heavy if it take him around the keeper to a position all by himself in front the whole mudda c&#% goal? ???
I doh find his touch was heavy either. He was comfortable, not scrambling, and the ball didn't run to any difficult angle or anything....
In fact the move look real nice until some kinda switch went off in his head.
http://www.youtube.com/v/XFOxepx2SN0&feature=player_embedded
Post by: GunnerStunner on September 20, 2011, 08:15:26 AM
however recent video footage that has since been removed from websites including wikileaks/sports.net shows SAF with a lazer pointer at the moment FT misses, an intricate arangement of refelctions off camera lenses and the referees whistle, aligned perfectly to pu tthe spanish hitman off his target...
Post by: FF on September 20, 2011, 08:39:09 AM
Allyuh smoking in here or what???
How de ass his touch was too heavy if it take him around the keeper to a position all by himself in front the whole mudda c&#% goal? ???
I doh find his touch was heavy either. He was comfortable, not scrambling, and the ball didn't run to any difficult angle or anything....
In fact the move look real nice until some kinda switch went off in his head.
I agree here too... the touch was likely too good and he relax and take de goal for granted... in fact if de touch was heavier than he expected he mighta score it, because he may have maintain focus.
I score a goal just like that years ago and men ketch real kicks off of me because of de long long drag i hit de keeper... i end up by the byline (on my weaker left foot) ah say shims but de good ting was it was ah open goal... so i do what i had to do to make sure it was on target.
Torres relax too much... or maybe he rush it... wha de hell we know yes :-\
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 20, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
Chelsea would take Pepe Reina over Cech any day now and you yuhself know that, so yuh wasting yuh time with that talk right dey.
U on f**kin crack aought?!! :rotfl:
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 20, 2011, 08:56:29 AM
Chelsea would take Pepe Reina over Cech any day now and you yuhself know that, so yuh wasting yuh time with that talk right dey.
U on f**kin crack aought?!! :rotfl:
Both very good keepers. With VDS retirement probably the 2 best in the league, but to choose between them is a tough decision. As both their back lines shaky their difference in quality may show through more now, but Pool back line somewhat more suspect.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 20, 2011, 09:12:12 AM
Chelsea would take Pepe Reina over Cech any day now and you yuhself know that, so yuh wasting yuh time with that talk right dey.
U on f**kin crack aought?!! :rotfl:
Both very good keepers. With VDS retirement probably the 2 best in the league, but to choose between them is a tough decision. As both their back lines shaky their difference in quality may show through more now, but Pool back line somewhat more suspect.
Not to take away anything from Reina but I don't know a single Chelsea fan that will pick Reina over Chech. To me like you say they are both excellent keepers and neither to me is better than the other. He statement make it seem like Chech is some shithong dat boxin above he weight and would easily be replaced if reina say "ah want to go Chelsea, sell meh now!"
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 20, 2011, 10:23:30 AM
Chelsea would take Pepe Reina over Cech any day now and you yuhself know that, so yuh wasting yuh time with that talk right dey.
U on f**kin crack aought?!! :rotfl:
Both very good keepers. With VDS retirement probably the 2 best in the league, but to choose between them is a tough decision. As both their back lines shaky their difference in quality may show through more now, but Pool back line somewhat more suspect.
Not to take away anything from Reina but I don't know a single Chelsea fan that will pick Reina over Chech. To me like you say they are both excellent keepers and neither to me is better than the other. He statement make it seem like Chech is some shithong dat boxin above he weight and would easily be replaced if reina say nullah want to go Chelsea, sell meh now!null
Dat is exactly what dat jackass is saying. He always sayin' it....is as if Cech did leave liverpool fuh Chelsea, too.
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 10:53:46 AM
Both very good keepers. With VDS retirement probably the 2 best in the league, but to choose between them is a tough decision. As both their back lines shaky their difference in quality may show through more now, but Pool back line somewhat more suspect.
They were both better than VDS before he retired.
Cech had a tough period coming back from his head injury where he conceded some goals that made yuh think he'll never be the same... But I think those days have been behind him for a lil while now...
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 20, 2011, 11:07:20 AM
Kicker I agree they were both better than VDS as well.
Post by: dinho on September 20, 2011, 11:12:40 AM
I just think Reina is more prone to the odd slip ups and moments of madness than Cech is.. Spilling the ball for the Adebayor goal last weekend is an example of what i talking about, you hardly see Cech giving up goals like that..
At the same time I think Reina is a better shot stopper and i would quicker back him over Cech to save a penalty.
Post by: JDB on September 20, 2011, 11:20:10 AM
Both very good keepers. With VDS retirement probably the 2 best in the league, but to choose between them is a tough decision. As both their back lines shaky their difference in quality may show through more now, but Pool back line somewhat more suspect.
They were both better than VDS before he retired.
Cech had a tough period coming back from his head injury where he conceded some goals that made yuh think he'll never be the same... But I think those days have been behind him for a lil while now...
Agree. I think VDS was in great form last year with only one notable error but he was playing behind a solid defence. What he had which was critical was great concentration and he never lost his ball playing and distribution skills. Reina and Cech though are top keepers in their prime.
Don't think that Reina is better than Cech and that talk about Cech and his injury is 2 years old.
He was excellent when Chelsea come from behind to win the title in 2010 and he was probably Chelsea's best performer last yea.
Post by: Bakes on September 20, 2011, 11:20:43 AM
I doh find his touch was heavy either. He was comfortable, not scrambling, and the ball didn't run to any difficult angle or anything....
In fact the move look real nice until some kinda switch went off in his head.
Most quality strikers will push that ball 3 maybe 4 steps to the side of the keeper inside the six so as to not create too difficult an angle on goal (or be faced with having to pull off an incredible shot as Nasri did, per Asylumseeker). Torres' touch took him seven-eight steps left of De Gea, and having watched him over the years it's not the quality of control that he's used to. Man cussing and carrying on about touch being too wide... I never said anything of the sort, the point was simply to underscore the extent to which he's struggling with his form. Normally his control woulda be better than that.
So...you know that I know that Chelsea would take reyna/reina (who cares about the spelling?) over Petr Cech any day eh?! I guess you also know all the winning lottery numbers in all participating states for the next three weeks and the exact location where Jesus was buried. Nigga pleez! You're right, though. De Gea had nothing ::) to do with Torres overpushing the ball. He was just standing on his line waiting for Torres to shoot. Explain to me please (without your usual self-contraditory style) how you could "fully support" a player's right to leave a team and then take issue with the way they do it, especially when you cite the teams' cut-throat ability to release players at their whim. The way that players do it is merely a means to an end and more often than not, the only means they have, so why be bitter about it. liverpool could have easily rejected Chelsea's bid, not so? You goin' on and on and on about Torres makin' it seem more like he left you and not liverpool.
Most literate people would understand the difference between "De Gea didn't force him into a heavy touch" and "De Gea had NOTHING to do with Torres overpushing the ball". Most literate people would also understand that there is nothing 'self-contradictory' about having a right to do something, and having an absolute right to do that something in any fashion one desires. As I said, most literate people... your struggle in comprehending the difference is understandable.
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
Even with the loss I can honestly say I am not worried. I see many positives in how the team is progressing. Youth isn't being wasted on the bench, Torres seems to be regaining his ability to make things happen, Lampard can be subbed out, we have creativity and good through balls being played, and we getting shots. We will rise to the surface very soon and once it start clicking teams will be in plenty trouble.
Kicker I agree they were both better than VDS as well.
AVB tryin' hard tuh see if Mata and Lamps could play together in the midfield and it works going forward because Mata attacks well from wide positions, and Lamps comfy in the middle, but coming back they got exposed because Mata not that quick and clearly not defensive minded...so that side of the field got exploited down that side coming back...On '45 he switched it up and tried to give Mata more freedom to operate in the centre, and give Cole the entire left knowing that he will stay at home first, and only pick his spots to go forward...Neither set up really worked too well, so he probably still scratching his head because yuh know he doh wanna bench Lamps...and he eh wanna resort back tuh calling on Malouda to provide cover in the wide areas...
The personnel there but AVB hadda figure out the right combo and a goalscorer hadda start clickin. Dais the difference between Chelsea, and Man U/Man City who strikers scoring goals fuh fun dese days.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 20, 2011, 11:38:39 AM
Even with the loss I can honestly say I am not worried. I see many positives in how the team is progressing. Youth isn't being wasted on the bench, Torres seems to be regaining his ability to make things happen, Lampard can be subbed out, we have creativity and good through balls being played, and we getting shots. We will rise to the surface very soon and once it start clicking teams will be in plenty trouble.
Kicker I agree they were both better than VDS as well.
AVB tryin' hard tuh see if Mata and Lamps could play together in the midfield and it works going forward because Mata attacks well from wide positions, and Lamps comfy in the middle, but coming back they got exposed because Mata not that quick and clearly not defensive minded...so that side of the field got exploited down that side coming back...On '45 he switched it up and tried to give Mata more freedom to operate in the centre, and give Cole the entire left knowing that he will stay at home first, and only pick his spots to go forward...Neither set up really worked too well, so he probably still scratching his head because yuh know he doh wanna bench Lamps...and he eh wanna resort back tuh calling on Malouda to provide cover in the wide areas...
The personnel there but AVB hadda figure out the right combo and a goalscorer hadda start clickin. Dais the difference between Chelsea, and Man U/Man City who strikers scoring goals fuh fun dese days.
I feel he go ha to pull back Malouda and either let Lampard come off the bench or Mata (which would be a big mistake imo). Florent offers enough quickness and very good cover. It doesn't help that is a 433 which by its nature is usually narrow in the middle and leave fullbacks fully exposed in having to handle wingers and adventureous wing backs as well. Torres close and Drogba is always a threat. If Sturrige keep getting run out it will begin to pay off soon.
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 11:41:47 AM
Most quality strikers will push that ball 3 maybe 4 steps to the side of the keeper inside the six so as to not create too difficult an angle on goal (or be faced with having to pull off an incredible shot as Nasri did, per Asylumseeker). Torres' touch took him seven-eight steps left of De Gea, and having watched him over the years it's not the quality of control that he's used to. Man cussing and carrying on about touch being too wide... I never said anything of the sort, the point was simply to underscore the extent to which he's struggling with his form. Normally his control woulda be better than that.
Normally his control woulda be better than that.
I eh count steps or anything, but to me it kinda tough to make those generalizations you're making because every one-on-one situation is different...the speed, the angles, keeper positioning, distance from goal etc...will determine who long yuh will end up pushing the ball around the GK... Only generalization I could make is that most quality strikers would execute a controlled move, and finish....
From the video Torres looked very much in control of his move, and as FF posted, before he struck the ball wide he seemed almost "over-composed"... So yeah maybe his touch woulda been softer normally, but from all observations, it seemed weighted very appropriately for him to finish comfortably and something inexplicable just went wrong.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 20, 2011, 01:35:44 PM
I doh find his touch was heavy either. He was comfortable, not scrambling, and the ball didn't run to any difficult angle or anything....
In fact the move look real nice until some kinda switch went off in his head.
Most quality strikers will push that ball 3 maybe 4 steps to the side of the keeper inside the six so as to not create too difficult an angle on goal (or be faced with having to pull off an incredible shot as Nasri did, per Asylumseeker). Torres' touch took him seven-eight steps left of De Gea, and having watched him over the years it's not the quality of control that he's used to. Man cussing and carrying on about touch being too wide... I never said anything of the sort, the point was simply to underscore the extent to which he's struggling with his form. Normally his control woulda be better than that.So...you know that I know that Chelsea would take reyna/reina (who cares about the spelling?) over Petr Cech any day eh?! I guess you also know all the winning lottery numbers in all participating states for the next three weeks and the exact location where Jesus was buried. Nigga pleez! You're right, though. De Gea had nothing ::) to do with Torres overpushing the ball. He was just standing on his line waiting for Torres to shoot. Explain to me please (without your usual self-contraditory style) how you could nullfully supportnull a player's right to leave a team and then take issue with the way they do it, especially when you cite the teams' cut-throat ability to release players at their whim. The way that players do it is merely a means to an end and more often than not, the only means they have, so why be bitter about it. liverpool could have easily rejected Chelsea's bid, not so? You goin' on and on and on about Torres makin' it seem more like he left you and not liverpool.
Most literate people would understand the difference between nullDe Gea didn't force him into a heavy touchnull and nullDe Gea had NOTHING to do with Torres overpushing the ballnull. Most literate people would also understand that there is nothing 'self-contradictory' about having a right to do something, and having an absolute right to do that something in any fashion one desires. As I said, most literate people... your struggle in comprehending the difference is understandable.
Only a c**t like you would watch a 'keeper close in on an attacker and say he had "nothing" to do with what the attacker did to circumvent him. Only a c**t like you would interpret what players do as them feeling they have an "absolute right" in "any fashion" especially when most sensible people understand that when players want to leave (and the team wants to act as if they don't want to release them) they have to act in sometimes a less than savoury manner. Torres wasn't the first to do it and he certainly won't be the last. Get over it already, bitch-ass.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 20, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
Exceptional vision and precision by Anelka. That pass should have been punctuated with a goal!!!
There is no doubt that De Gea was influential in forcing Torres to Torres' left.
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 01:49:00 PM
As the movement unfolded, my thought was that Torres would have work to do to find himself with a favourable angle, but it quickly became clear that his touch to avoid De Gea disrupting the play wasn't fatal. Not only was the goal available for the taking, there was NO threat of a defender recovering to disrupt.
Exceptional vision and precision by Anelka. That pass should have been punctuated with a goal!!!
There is no doubt that De Gea was influential in forcing Torres to Torres' left.
Ramires made the pass...
Post by: DeSoWa on September 20, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
As the movement unfolded, my thought was that Torres would have work to do to find himself with a favourable angle, but it quickly became clear that his touch to avoid De Gea disrupting the play wasn't fatal. Not only was the goal available for the taking, there was NO threat of a defender recovering to disrupt.
Exceptional vision and precision by Anelka. That pass should have been punctuated with a goal!!!
There is no doubt that De Gea was influential in forcing Torres to Torres' left.
Ramires made the pass...
Maybe he talking about the goal that actually scored ;D which I think was a harder one to score than the 2nd.
Big Up!
Post by: Bakes on September 20, 2011, 02:45:13 PM
Only a c**t like you would watch a 'keeper close in on an attacker and say he had "nothing" to do with what the attacker did to circumvent him. Only a c**t like you would interpret what players do as them feeling they have an "absolute right" in "any fashion" especially when most sensible people understand that when players want to leave (and the team wants to act as if they don't want to release them) they have to act in sometimes a less than savoury manner. Torres wasn't the first to do it and he certainly won't be the last. Get over it already, bitch-ass.
I have no idea what you carrying with... only thing I would suggest is that you either learn to read, or in the alternative pay closer attention to what you read.
As the movement unfolded, my thought was that Torres would have work to do to find himself with a favourable angle, but it quickly became clear that his touch to avoid De Gea disrupting the play wasn't fatal. Not only was the goal available for the taking, there was NO threat of a defender recovering to disrupt.
Exceptional vision and precision by Anelka. That pass should have been punctuated with a goal!!!
There is no doubt that De Gea was influential in forcing Torres to Torres' left.
I don't think anyone's arguing either of these bolded points... speaking for myself at least.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 20, 2011, 03:10:03 PM
As the movement unfolded, my thought was that Torres would have work to do to find himself with a favourable angle, but it quickly became clear that his touch to avoid De Gea disrupting the play wasn't fatal. Not only was the goal available for the taking, there was NO threat of a defender recovering to disrupt.
Exceptional vision and precision by Anelka. That pass should have been punctuated with a goal!!!
There is no doubt that De Gea was influential in forcing Torres to Torres' left.
Ramires made the pass...
Maybe he talking about the goal that actually scored ;D which I think was a harder one to score than the 2nd.
Big Up!
Quite right. Pass by Anelka on the converted chance on goal. Pass by Ramires on the fail. Kicker yuh know it's not like me to deny meh player Ramires his credit (since I've been promoting him from Day One) ... but seemingly I did so ... unintentionally :)
He's been errant at times but when he comes good, look out. Interestingly, I thought he was a possible candidate for a substitution based on his first-half rendition ... as such I was curious as to whether AVB would interpret it that way, and I'm glad he didn't. Also good because gladdis got to rush Nani's shirt.
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 03:14:22 PM
Your follow up sentence - "that pass SHOULD have been punctuated by a goal" is what confused me I suppose... especially since everything else in the post was about the missed chance by Torres.
Anyhow yeah- good pass by Anelka on the goal.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 20, 2011, 03:25:07 PM
Published September 19, 2011 | Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/09/19/column-chelsea-coach-needs-to-study-art-war/
Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas either hasn't read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" or didn't quite understand it. Because one of the central tenents (sic) of that ancient Chinese military treatise on how to win is that you should avoid your enemy's strengths when you can.
In soccer terms, that means Chelsea should never have gone to Manchester United's fortress of Old Trafford expecting to beat Alex Ferguson's team in an O.K. Corral-style shootout. As Sun Tzu undoubtedly would have said had he been in the terraces on Sunday, all-out attacks on United's goal without resolute defending against its counterattacks, speed and vision will often end in tears, especially if you take a misfiring popgun like Fernando Torres to the fight.
Torres' miss of United's wide-open goal in the 83rd minute was as tragically comic as the drunken gunslinger who reaches for his holster only to find that he left his pistol on the bar. Having rounded goalkeeper David De Gea, Chelsea's 50 million pound striker needed only to keep his cool and tap the ball in. Instead, somehow, he left-footed it wide.
Torres buried his head in the immaculate turf after that failure, which again suggested that Chelsea isn't going to win silverware this season if he leads the attack.
His neatly taken second-half goal — a right-footed looped poke over De Gea at the end of a prescient run that foresaw a fine pass from substitute Nicolas Anelka — could not redeem Torres for his other squandered chances. Rather, it served only as a jarring reminder of the goal-hound and Golden Ball candidate that Torres used to be for Liverpool. With every passing week, its decision to sell Torres looks like one of the smartest pieces of business done on Merseyside since Brian Epstein signed the Fab Four.
Like a neon sign, Torres' erstwhile speed, touch and skills now only come in momentary flashes. His ability to light up a whole match has gone. He opts to pass where he previously would have shot, a telltale sign of a man who no longer fully trusts his instincts. On Sunday, Torres worked hard to get into dangerous positions and to test United's backline. But, without goals, that won't be enough to wrest the Premier League trophy from United.
Yet Chelsea's 3-1 defeat was not an individual failure, but a strategic one. Sun Tzu teaches that a clever general fights on his own terms and takes great care to know his enemy. Villas-Boas appeared to do neither, leaving wide open spaces across the Old Trafford pitch that played into the hands of Ferguson's squad built for quickness and movement.
Three months of Villas-Boas' tenure is too soon to judge him, the type of football he wants at Chelsea and how this loss might cause him to rethink. But after the more studious, methodic and at times plodding philosophies of Jose Mourinho and Carlo Ancelotti, Chelsea's billionaire Russian owner Roman Abramovich now appears to have a manager more willing to throw caution to the wind and simply go for it.
Yet falling pointlessly in a hail of shots like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid surely isn't what Abramovich and Villas-Boas aspire to long-term. Chelsea allowed Chris Smalling a free header for United's first goal, failed to close down Nani for its second and couldn't contain Phil Jones' industry that set up Wayne Rooney for the third.
Back and forth the two sides went, hammering at each other like prizefighters, their eyes fixed on reaching each other's goal, instead of trying to prevent each other from getting there. For neutrals, it was hugely entertaining and heady stuff. Post-match, Ferguson likened it to basketball game.
"You attack, we'll attack, retreat, counter. Oh, it was agony," he said.
"Let your rapidity be that of the wind, your compactness that of the forest," Sun Tzu teaches. Too often, Chelsea's defending was neither.
Villas-Boas signaled as much by yanking off the pedestrian Frank Lampard at halftime for Anelka. That decision suggests that Villas-Boas isn't afraid to ditch Chelsea's old guard if they underperform. That showed decisiveness, a willingness to try different approaches and considerable self-confidence from a man who, at 33, is little or no older than some of his best-known players.
As he helps Chelsea transition to a younger team, those qualities could bear fruit if Abramovich breaks the habit of a lifetime and actually gives Villas-Boas sufficient time — as Ferguson has had so much of at United — instead of simply replacing his manager after a season or two.
Villas-Boas is now another entry in the huge encyclopedia of managers that Ferguson has outfoxed in his 25 years at United. And this one, the 69-year-old noted, is young enough to be his grandson.
"I like youth. I like young people," Ferguson said pre-game.
Surely because, as Villas-Boas showed, they can also be naive.
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John Leicester is an international sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at jleicester(at)ap.org or follow him at twitter.com/johnleicester
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/09/19/column-chelsea-coach-needs-to-study-art-war/#ixzz1YWvIyKFH
Post by: asylumseeker on September 21, 2011, 03:20:07 AM
Only a c**t like you would watch a 'keeper close in on an attacker and say he had "nothing" to do with what the attacker did to circumvent him. Only a c**t like you would interpret what players do as them feeling they have an "absolute right" in "any fashion" especially when most sensible people understand that when players want to leave (and the team wants to act as if they don't want to release them) they have to act in sometimes a less than savoury manner. Torres wasn't the first to do it and he certainly won't be the last. Get over it already, bitch-ass.
I have no idea what you carrying with... only thing I would suggest is that you either learn to read, or in the alternative pay closer attention to what you read. :frustrated:As the movement unfolded, my thought was that Torres would have work to do to find himself with a favourable angle, but it quickly became clear that his touch to avoid De Gea disrupting the play wasn't fatal. Not only was the goal available for the taking, there was NO threat of a defender recovering to disrupt.
Exceptional vision and precision by Anelka. That pass should have been punctuated with a goal!!!
There is no doubt that De Gea was influential in forcing Torres to Torres' left.
I don't think anyone's arguing either of these bolded points... speaking for myself at least.
That was merely my contribution ... but, isn't De Gea's role part and parcel of your disagreement with Chow?
Post by: dinho on September 21, 2011, 06:17:09 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on September 21, 2011, 06:51:51 AM
Post by: kicker on September 21, 2011, 07:06:55 AM
Is it just me or does Lukaku bear a resemblance to Eddie Phillip?
lol
Strength and powers
One is one.
Post by: Jah Gol on September 21, 2011, 07:15:56 AM
Is it just me or does Lukaku bear a resemblance to Eddie Phillip?Dinho you is wicked man dred. :)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 21, 2011, 09:52:42 AM
Is it just me or does Lukaku bear a resemblance to Eddie Phillip?
One iz One? :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on September 21, 2011, 11:43:47 AM
CHELSEA SIGNS WITH BARBADOS
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2458091,00.html
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of a three-year deal with the Barbados Tourism Authority.
The exclusive tourism partnership will help the BTA further promote the island of Barbados to a wider audience across three key territories - North America, the Caribbean and the UK.
Chelsea will look to explore rolling out specific community football coaching programmes on the island and in the UK through the club's award-winning charity, the Chelsea Foundation.
Barbados is fast becoming an outstanding sporting destination. With excellent on-island facilities coupled with the enthusiasm of its people, Barbados boasts the legacy of hosting a number of world-class sports events.
Such events included the 2006 PGA World Golf Championships, the 2007 ICC Cricket World Cup Finals, the 2010 Sentebale charity polo match with Prince Harry of Wales, the 2010 Fireball World Sailing Championship and the 2010 ICC Twenty20 Cricket Finals.
This year Barbados also hosted the inaugural Football Legends Invitational Tournament. The event saw legends from seven Premier League clubs- with a Chelsea side including Gianfranco Zola, Gustavo Poyet, Frank Leboeuf, Roberto Di Matteo and Ken Monkou - and one PFA all-star team compete at the Kensington Oval, the island's famous cricketing arena.
Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay said: 'We are excited to be working together with the Barbados Tourism Authority.This is a great opportunity for us, using our excellent and award-winning CSR programmes, to engage with fans in the Caribbean who have a real passion for Chelsea and the Premier League.'
Petra Roach, BTA vice-president sales and marketing UK, who is pictured with Di Matteo and Didier Drogba at our Cobham training ground, said: 'This partnership is much more than getting our Barbados message out to Chelsea fans on matchday. We want to harness the charitable spirit of the club and work together on some exciting community projects both in Barbados and the UK.
'Barbados and Chelsea have a natural synergy as we both strive to be the best in our respective fields. It fits perfectly with our theme for 2012, The Year of Sport; from grass roots to world class, and we are building upon Barbados' already strong reputation for sporting events and activities.'
Post by: Bakes on September 21, 2011, 01:12:15 PM
That was merely my contribution ... but, isn't De Gea's role part and parcel of your disagreement with Chow?
No problem... the only disagreement appears to be the interpretation of the degree of interference presented by De Gea. He insists that De Gea "forced" Torres into a heavy touch, whereas I see it as Torres' poor form which lead to the heavy touch. That De Gea forced Torres to go around him is without doubt.
Post by: Blue on September 21, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Lukaku might be a young Drogba, but he is not really a Premiership player at the moment....his heading, shooting technique, passing technique and pass selection are very poor. He also doesn't throw his weight around enough, although that will probably come to him sooner than the technical side of things. Hopefully we dont need to rely on him too much this year.
Bertrand looked pretty good at left back, a very similar player to Ashley Cole.
Romeu looked awesome. He could easily bounce Mikel out of the side permanently. This was his first match at Stamford Bridge but he was full of flicks and tricks for the full 120 minutes. He made one or two mistakes but did extremely well in winning back the ball every time he lost it. You could see he was a Barca player - he kept the game ticking over right through, much like Xavi and Iniesta would (although Romeu is a defensive midfielder).
Man of the Match - David Luiz. Pure entertainment. Constantly getting forward, always diving into challenges, stirring up the crowd, arguing with the ref, arguing with Bobby Zamora, playing mind games with the Fulham players during the penalty shootout. I could see why we dont play him in important games though, lol.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 21, 2011, 05:01:10 PM
That was merely my contribution ... but, isn't De Gea's role part and parcel of your disagreement with Chow?
No problem... the only disagreement appears to be the interpretation of the degree of interference presented by De Gea. He insists that De Gea nullforcednull Torres into a heavy touch, whereas I see it as Torres' poor form which lead to the heavy touch. That De Gea forced Torres to go around him is without doubt.
Asshole, nobody measures "degree of interference" in a situation like that. Torees ran onto a breakaway pass, De Gea came out to shut down his operational space. Torres turned and had to circumvent the advancing goalkeeper and his touch beang "heavy" according to you had everything to do with De Gea "interfering" however little YOU thin the "degree of interference". If De Gea would have stayed on his line, or NOT closed down Torres' space within which he had to operate, Torres would have done something with the ball OTHER than what he did and that could have been anyrthing. You dey like a forensic jackass counting "steps" and measuring "degree of interference". PURE jackass. No additives, no preservatives.
Post by: Controversial on September 21, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
That was merely my contribution ... but, isn't De Gea's role part and parcel of your disagreement with Chow?
No problem... the only disagreement appears to be the interpretation of the degree of interference presented by De Gea. He insists that De Gea nullforcednull Torres into a heavy touch, whereas I see it as Torres' poor form which lead to the heavy touch. That De Gea forced Torres to go around him is without doubt.
Asshole, nobody measures "degree of interference" in a situation like that. Torees ran onto a breakaway pass, De Gea came out to shut down his operational space. Torres turned and had to circumvent the advancing goalkeeper and his touch beang "heavy" according to you had everything to do with De Gea "interfering" however little YOU thin the "degree of interference". If De Gea would have stayed on his line, or NOT closed down Torres' space within which he had to operate, Torres would have done something with the ball OTHER than what he did and that could have been anyrthing. You dey like a forensic jackass counting "steps" and measuring "degree of interference". PURE jackass. No additives, no preservatives.
your stressing over a man who has probably never played amateur sports in his life, the only thing he ever beat was books, not competitors in sport.
Post by: Blue on September 24, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
Torres is $h!t. Pretty much did nothing useful up until the moment Mata presented him with a superb ball in the box...on that occasion he did what he had to do and got his goal. Crowd gone wild...and soon after Ramires doubled the lead and Torres began to look like he had a purpose...then, inexplicably, he dived in two-footed on some Swansea player and got himself sent off...Cheers Fernando.
In his absence, Anelka was excellent...held up the ball well (admittedly that's been his 'strength' for some time now) and kept us looking like a threat all game...at one point he took on the entire Swansea back line and was inches away from scoring (hit the crossbar). He got a massive standing ovation when Drogba came on for him.
And once Drogba came back on for his cameo you could see the gulf in class between the Drog and Torres. He was a beast from the minute he came on, battering the Swansea defence. And his control, as always, is exquisite, the man can trap a ball better than anyone in the Premiership. His goal, perfectly taken, was another illustration of why Torres will never be an adequate replacement for him...and certainly should not be keeping him out of the team at the moment.
Fingers crossed, Torres gets a 3 match ban.
Post by: Daft Trini on September 25, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
Snubbed Lampard quits bench
September 25, 2011
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Frank Lampard's future at Chelsea could be in doubt after reportedly walking away from the bench when being an unused substitute in Saturday's 4-1 win over Swansea City.
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Frank Lampard is left out in the cold as Andre Villas-Boas directs his troops
Lampard, 33, has failed to make Andre Villas-Boas' starting line-up for three of the last four matches. But the game against Swansea was the first time he has not come off the bench.
Villas-Boas opted to use his final substitution to bring on 18-year-old starlet Joshua McEachran for Raul Meireles in the 83rd minute for his first appearance of the season in the Premier League. The Mail on Sunday reports that Lampard then got up and walked down the tunnel without speaking to his manager.
In Lampard's only start in the last four matches he was taken off at half-time in the 3-1 loss at Manchester United.
It suggests that Lampard may not figure in Villas-Boas' long-term plans after being a fixture in the Chelsea side since joining the club from West Ham United for £11 million 10 years ago.
Asked about Lampard's position, Villas-Boas attempted to play down suggestions that the England international's days are numbered.
He said: "I don't know but this is nothing to speculate about. They are team players and the players want the team to perform, and Frank is like that. He is a fantastic player, a magnificent player and soon he will be back to the team, sooner than you expect.
"The decisions today were mainly based on the fact we played 120 minutes (in the Carling Cup) on Wednesday and these players were fresh, apart from John Terry and Petr Cech. In a tight calendar like we have, it's important to have squad rotation."
With Steven Gerrard returning to fitness and, when fit, Jack Wilshere a certain starter for England, Lampard's position with the national team is also under threat.
Post by: elan on September 25, 2011, 11:45:10 AM
Post by: Bakes on September 25, 2011, 11:58:31 AM
If was Ballotelli, it would have made headline news.
That's real poor. We had a similar situation yesterday... Suarez subbed out in the 81' for Gerrard, and wasn't happy about it... shook Gerrard and Kenny's hand, but kicked away a water bottle and continued to fume (shaking his head on the bench). At the final whistle he then walked straight to the locker room. Not quite as serious, and much more understandable than Lampard.
Post by: elan on September 25, 2011, 12:04:47 PM
If was Ballotelli, it would have made headline news.
That's real poor. We had a similar situation yesterday... Suarez subbed out in the 81' for Gerrard, and wasn't happy about it... shook Gerrard and Kenny's hand, but kicked away a water bottle and continued to fume (shaking his head on the bench). At the final whistle he then walked straight to the locker room. Not quite as serious, and much more understandable than Lampard.
I forgot to ask you if was just the sub he reacted to cause he (Suarez) was not pleased at all.
Post by: Bakes on September 25, 2011, 12:27:59 PM
I forgot to ask you if was just the sub he reacted to cause he (Suarez) was not pleased at all.
Haven't really heard anything yet... Charlie Nicholas of Sky Sports speculated (http://bcove.me/orvq3ukd) that he wanted to stay on to play with Gerrard for those final minutes.
Post by: Blue on September 25, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
Lampard played 75 minutes in the Carling Cup on Wednesday for a side with 10 men (in which he was excellent) and has a trip to Valencia on Wednesday, to play a game where he will start. Why would Lampard have wanted to come on for a 10 minute corbeaux sweat instead of Josh McEachran anyway? Lampard has always been a model professional.
AVB's responses were not to direct questions about Lampard leaving the bench, they were in response to questions about whether Lampard is still part of his first XI. And his response was yes.
He probably had a minor injury and left when it was clear he wasn't needed, or simply had to go to the bathroom.
Post by: JDB on September 26, 2011, 08:05:59 AM
Just back from the game. A comfortable 4-1 blowout of Swansea despite playing 55 minutes with 10 men.
Torres is $h!t. Pretty much did nothing useful up until the moment Mata presented him with a superb ball in the box...on that occasion he did what he had to do and got his goal. Crowd gone wild...and soon after Ramires doubled the lead and Torres began to look like he had a purpose...then, inexplicably, he dived in two-footed on some Swansea player and got himself sent off...Cheers Fernando.
In his absence, Anelka was excellent...held up the ball well (admittedly that's been his 'strength' for some time now) and kept us looking like a threat all game...at one point he took on the entire Swansea back line and was inches away from scoring (hit the crossbar). He got a massive standing ovation when Drogba came on for him.
And once Drogba came back on for his cameo you could see the gulf in class between the Drog and Torres. He was a beast from the minute he came on, battering the Swansea defence. And his control, as always, is exquisite, the man can trap a ball better than anyone in the Premiership. His goal, perfectly taken, was another illustration of why Torres will never be an adequate replacement for him...and certainly should not be keeping him out of the team at the moment.
Fingers crossed, Torres gets a 3 match ban.
I thinik it harsh to call the man shit, Torres is excellent at several things but those things are limited to the area between the last defender and goal. Torres influence on a game has always been about coming alive for chances as opposed to always being in the mix.
As opposed to Drogba who taking free-kick, corner, defending corners, crossing from the wing, dropping deep. They are such different types of players and Drogba is a much more versatile player. Anelka too for that matter. He could play down the center where they setting it up for Torres but he also show that he could play on th eoutside too.
The story about Lampard storming off is nonesense but his days are numbered in that Chelsea midfield because again Ramires and Meireles are better all-round midfielders at this point and Villas Boas try Lampard in Mikel role in pre-season with no success.
Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 26, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
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Barbados is fast becoming an outstanding sporting destination. With excellent on-island facilities coupled with the enthusiasm of its people, Barbados boasts the legacy of hosting a number of world-class sports events.
Such events included the 2006 PGA World Golf Championships, the 2007 ICC Cricket World Cup Finals, the 2010 Sentebale charity polo match with Prince Harry of Wales, the 2010 Fireball World Sailing Championship and the 2010 ICC Twenty20 Cricket Finals.
... and Tiger's wedding ...which in retrospect seems to qualify as a sporting exercise.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 26, 2011, 12:32:25 PM
Post by: doublet750 on September 26, 2011, 02:25:52 PM
Just back from the game. A comfortable 4-1 blowout of Swansea despite playing 55 minutes with 10 men.
Torres is $h!t. Pretty much did nothing useful up until the moment Mata presented him with a superb ball in the box...on that occasion he did what he had to do and got his goal. Crowd gone wild...and soon after Ramires doubled the lead and Torres began to look like he had a purpose...then, inexplicably, he dived in two-footed on some Swansea player and got himself sent off...Cheers Fernando.
In his absence, Anelka was excellent...held up the ball well (admittedly that's been his 'strength' for some time now) and kept us looking like a threat all game...at one point he took on the entire Swansea back line and was inches away from scoring (hit the crossbar). He got a massive standing ovation when Drogba came on for him.
And once Drogba came back on for his cameo you could see the gulf in class between the Drog and Torres. He was a beast from the minute he came on, battering the Swansea defence. And his control, as always, is exquisite, the man can trap a ball better than anyone in the Premiership. His goal, perfectly taken, was another illustration of why Torres will never be an adequate replacement for him...and certainly should not be keeping him out of the team at the moment.
Fingers crossed, Torres gets a 3 match ban.
I thinik it harsh to call the man shit, Torres is excellent at several things but those things are limited to the area between the last defender and goal. Torres influence on a game has always been about coming alive for chances as opposed to always being in the mix.
As opposed to Drogba who taking free-kick, corner, defending corners, crossing from the wing, dropping deep. They are such different types of players and Drogba is a much more versatile player. Anelka too for that matter. He could play down the center where they setting it up for Torres but he also show that he could play on th eoutside too.
The story about Lampard storming off is nonesense but his days are numbered in that Chelsea midfield because again Ramires and Meireles are better all-round midfielders at this point and Villas Boas try Lampard in Mikel role in pre-season with no success.
Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing.
i agree with the part in bold....two different types of players....fellas we hadda remeber TOrres was used to living off d passing of players like Xabi Alonso and Gerrard who KNOW how to play an exquisite pass quickly.....whilst he does cut d forlorn figure @ times our midfield is truly slow with the passing and Mata has been a difference (also explains y we wanted modric) .....besides were tlkin bout a player who with the exception of the last two seasons has scored double digits or a respectable total in every campaign the 8 years prior to that.....Raul went three consecutive seasons without managing over 10 goals for real madrid and was still considered World Class ...he even backed it up by finding his form and confidence and scoring 18 the next 2 seasons after the barren run.
edit: not to mention fellas DONT FORGET what he did to us last year with liverpool in the midst of our blitzkreig start to the season.....keep quiet for 80mins and somehow score 2 amazing goals....one that made us wonder if JT was past it!
Post by: Blue on September 26, 2011, 04:57:53 PM
Just back from the game. A comfortable 4-1 blowout of Swansea despite playing 55 minutes with 10 men.
Torres is $h!t. Pretty much did nothing useful up until the moment Mata presented him with a superb ball in the box...on that occasion he did what he had to do and got his goal. Crowd gone wild...and soon after Ramires doubled the lead and Torres began to look like he had a purpose...then, inexplicably, he dived in two-footed on some Swansea player and got himself sent off...Cheers Fernando.
In his absence, Anelka was excellent...held up the ball well (admittedly that's been his 'strength' for some time now) and kept us looking like a threat all game...at one point he took on the entire Swansea back line and was inches away from scoring (hit the crossbar). He got a massive standing ovation when Drogba came on for him.
And once Drogba came back on for his cameo you could see the gulf in class between the Drog and Torres. He was a beast from the minute he came on, battering the Swansea defence. And his control, as always, is exquisite, the man can trap a ball better than anyone in the Premiership. His goal, perfectly taken, was another illustration of why Torres will never be an adequate replacement for him...and certainly should not be keeping him out of the team at the moment.
Fingers crossed, Torres gets a 3 match ban.
I thinik it harsh to call the man shit, Torres is excellent at several things but those things are limited to the area between the last defender and goal. Torres influence on a game has always been about coming alive for chances as opposed to always being in the mix.
As opposed to Drogba who taking free-kick, corner, defending corners, crossing from the wing, dropping deep. They are such different types of players and Drogba is a much more versatile player. Anelka too for that matter. He could play down the center where they setting it up for Torres but he also show that he could play on th eoutside too.
The story about Lampard storming off is nonesense but his days are numbered in that Chelsea midfield because again Ramires and Meireles are better all-round midfielders at this point and Villas Boas try Lampard in Mikel role in pre-season with no success.
Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing.
I never really paid much attention to Torres while he was at Liverpool, but having seen him play every other weekend for the best part of a year now, I can't see how he was ever a starboy in this league. Because the fact is anything he could do in the final third, Drogba could do better. In fact, Drogba's goal last Saturday was virtually a carbon copy of Torres' goal. And, as you pointed out, Drogba does a hell of a lot more than just finishing off chances. Torres is a niche player who has lost his niche. He has shown zero ability in adapting to Chelsea's more methodical brand of football. He might score a few goals this season (my guess would be 15 or so if he stays healthy) but he is not a top player.
And Lampard is still a top midfielder. All this talk about him losing it is tabloid hype. He may not be able to play 90 minutes twice a week anymore but he is still miles better than Ramires or Miereles, and plays a huge part in Chelsea's success. I didnt see AVB playing him in the Mikel role, but I'm glad he saw sense because Lampard would be wasted in that role.
Post by: Bakes on September 26, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
I never really paid much attention to Torres while he was at Liverpool, but having seen him play every other weekend for the best part of a year now, I can't see how he was ever a starboy in this league. Because the fact is anything he could do in the final third, Drogba could do better. In fact, Drogba's goal last Saturday was virtually a carbon copy of Torres' goal. And, as you pointed out, Drogba does a hell of a lot more than just finishing off chances. Torres is a niche player who has lost his niche. He has shown zero ability in adapting to Chelsea's more methodical brand of football. He might score a few goals this season (my guess would be 15 or so if he stays healthy) but he is not a top player.
And Lampard is still a top midfielder. All this talk about him losing it is tabloid hype. He may not be able to play 90 minutes twice a week anymore but he is still miles better than Ramires or Miereles, and plays a huge part in Chelsea's success. I didnt see AVB playing him in the Mikel role, but I'm glad he saw sense because Lampard would be wasted in that role.
All this from watching him fuh only 5 months? Hardly the "better part of a year"... and hardly accurate.
Post by: dinho on September 27, 2011, 06:50:53 AM
Up until now, Chelsea plays a very specific system and type of brand that has its roots in the Mourinho era. Avram Grant didn't change it significantly... Hiddink didn't change it signifcantly... Scolari didn't change it significantly.... Ancelotti didn't change it significantly.. Those coaches came and met something that was working (just probably not good enough) and a group of very professional players.. They made minor changes here and there and tried to add value through man management, but at the root it was the same system.
The system relies on very physical players in defence and midfield built to overpower the opposition with a combination of power and speed, all supporting a physical anomaly of a forward up front (Drogba). No setta creativity, no setta technical brilliance or elaborate wing play and counter attacking... Just sheer power.. And ever since age and injuries took their toll on the players that excelled in that setup (Lampard, Essien, Ballack, Drogba, Terry), the brand has become less imperious, players have become slower and the play has become much more labored and methodical. As a result, Chelsea has been in gradual decline.
What happen to Torres would happen to any other world class player forced into that setup.. Ronaldinho, Zidane even Messi would struggle because the team is not built to suit those type of players. Poor Torres hardly see a good through ball since he reach, but Drogba never needed that. So what has happened since then is that they doing everything to try to change the team to accomodate him which is a process in itself.
This year, they finally have the personnel that can somewhat play to his strengths and the speed of play is picking up as they phase out the older players. And they finally have a coach willing to implement that system without regard for names and personalities.
I had said before that Torres would turn out to be a good buy. Relatively young with his best years in front of him, an immediate succession plan for Drogba and a world class player already proven in the EPL.
If Mata and Meireles stay fit and Torres can hold his head through his struggles (and wipe that cobo shit off his shoulder) i predict the team will peak around Christmas and Torres will show his true class.
If not, I willing to concede I was wrong and it was the worst buy in the history of football.
Post by: dinho on September 29, 2011, 06:55:27 AM
Villas-Boas: No regrets on Kalou
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/963267/chelsea%27s-andre-villas-boas:-no-regrets-about-salomon-kalou-sub?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=3888
By ESPNsoccernet staff
Andre Villas-Boas has refused to accept he made a mistake in bringing on Salomon Kalou for the final seven minutes of Chelsea's Champions League tie at Valencia.
Kalou replaced Frank Lampard with Chelsea a goal to the good after the midfielder had marked his return to the side with the opening goal at the Mestalla.
But in the 87th minute Kalou inexplicably handled a cross into the Chelsea box which allowed Roberto Soldado the chance to grab a point from the penalty spot.
That led to accusations that Villas-Boas should have brought on a defensive player than a forward at such a key point in the game, but the manager rejected that claim.
"No, no, no, no,'' he said. "Putting on a striker is nothing to do with being more offensive or putting on a defender sometimes is nothing to do with being more defensive.
"I think it was the right choice bearing in mind what we were looking at, which was the fact that Valencia were coming out on the left side and doing a lot of two against ones against Bosingwa.
"I'm not going to criticise him [Kalou]. These things sometimes happen in football.
"We controlled the left side. The goal doesn't come from that situation. If you bring on a defender, you suffer the goal the same. So it's nothing to do with that in my opinion.
"It was a pity. We had very, very good opportunities to reach 2-0 and we just couldn't find the back of the net. It was very, very unlucky. The performance was solid and a draw away from home, if it's proposed to you before you take it.
"So near to a win, it leaves you with a strange feeling but we're in a good position still in the group. We're looking forward to the Genk game - they're going to be difficult games, of course. But if we get six points out of them, we're almost ensured qualification.''
On Lampard's return to the side, Villas-Boas said: "It was a good performance, a good display from a top player, one of the best players in the squad. A goal always comes at a good time for Frank. He's been a goalscorer all his life.
"His abilities are never in doubt and we trust him 100% - like I told you.''
Chelsea's frustration boiled over at the final whistle, which witnessed a flurry of yellow cards after the referee blew for full-time after awarding Chelsea a free-kick.
Villas-Boas said: "We wanted to organise ourselves and that could've been a chance for us. But the referee decided to end the game and we reacted a bit to suffering the penalty so late.''
Valencia boss Unai Emery was delighted with his players' never-say-die attitude.
"I'm really happy with my players' performance, especially with their attitude on the pitch,'' he said. "They've been fighting for every single ball on the pitch tonight against a great team like Chelsea and I believe that it was a fair result in the end.
"We got a point, we had some chance to maybe score more goals but, in the end, a point is good enough for us.''
Emery's decision to drop goalkeeper Vincente Guaita and hand Diego Alves his first start of the season proved a masterstroke, with the Brazilian making a succession of stunning saves.
"The good news for Valencia is that we have two fantastic goalkeepers,'' Emery said. "After tonight's performance, I'm going to wait a bit until I make my mind up whether I'm going to carry on playing Alves in the Champions League.''
Post by: Observer on September 29, 2011, 07:04:27 AM
Chelsea going forward are finding rhythm & somebody is going to be at the end of a hiding soon. Watch!
Post by: kicker on September 29, 2011, 07:50:15 AM
He might score a few goals this season (my guess would be 15 or so if he stays healthy) but he is not a top player.
If you're talking league only, 15 goals is a decent haul dude... My guess is that would land you somewhere between no. 5 & 10 in any given EPL season. Torres himself probably only had one season in his career (maybe 2) before Liverpool where he scored more than 15 in the league...The perception of Torres as an extraordinary goal machine is purely a Liverpool thing - he thrived there...other than that 15 in a season was just about his number, and that ain't a bad haul whatsoever...
Rooney and Kun off to a flyer this season, but in an average season, 15 goals is not shabby at all.
Post by: Bakes on September 29, 2011, 11:37:13 AM
Torres himself probably only had one season in his career (maybe 2) before Liverpool where he scored more than 15 in the league...The perception of Torres as an extraordinary goal machine is purely a Liverpool thing - he thrived there...other than that 15 in a season was just about his number, and that ain't a bad haul whatsoever...
Rooney and Kun off to a flyer this season, but in an average season, 15 goals is not shabby at all.
Ramirez looks to be coming into his own. Good engine and very mobile.
Chelsea going forward are finding rhythm & somebody is going to be at the end of a hiding soon. Watch!
Agreed... he looking both comfortable and dangerous. Have to say that my perception of him has changed a lot from when he first arrived.
He averaged about 14 goals a season at Atletico... and about 16 a season at Liverpool. Which I suppose helps and hurts your argument. Either he never was, or always was "an extraordinary goal machine"... depending on how you look at his season average.
Post by: kicker on September 29, 2011, 01:32:38 PM
He averaged about 14 goals a season at Atletico... and about 16 a season at Liverpool. Which I suppose helps and hurts your argument. Either he never was, or always was "an extraordinary goal machine"... depending on how you look at his season average.
That 16 average at Liverpool is brought down by his last season which was not a full season, and he only scored 9 goals. His numbers for Liverpool are better than at Atletico... even if not by as large a margin as perception may influence. I don't think he ever broke 20 league goals in Spain...
I for one never thought of him as a deadly finisher in Spain - His work rate and movement were great, and his goal scoring was just good, but sometimes notably wasteful...At Liverpool I found that he stepped up his game as a finisher...You're probably right - he was never an exceptional goal scorer. But his reptuation at Liverpool suggested otherwise - maybe it was all hype.
My point though was if he nets 15 goals in the league, I'd say that's good production by his standards...and by most for that matter.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 02, 2011, 09:53:33 AM
Just back from the game. A comfortable 4-1 blowout of Swansea despite playing 55 minutes with 10 men.
Torres is $h!t. Pretty much did nothing useful up until the moment Mata presented him with a superb ball in the box...on that occasion he did what he had to do and got his goal. Crowd gone wild...and soon after Ramires doubled the lead and Torres began to look like he had a purpose...then, inexplicably, he dived in two-footed on some Swansea player and got himself sent off...Cheers Fernando.
In his absence, Anelka was excellent...held up the ball well (admittedly that's been his 'strength' for some time now) and kept us looking like a threat all game...at one point he took on the entire Swansea back line and was inches away from scoring (hit the crossbar). He got a massive standing ovation when Drogba came on for him.
And once Drogba came back on for his cameo you could see the gulf in class between the Drog and Torres. He was a beast from the minute he came on, battering the Swansea defence. And his control, as always, is exquisite, the man can trap a ball better than anyone in the Premiership. His goal, perfectly taken, was another illustration of why Torres will never be an adequate replacement for him...and certainly should not be keeping him out of the team at the moment.
Fingers crossed, Torres gets a 3 match ban.
I thinik it harsh to call the man shit, Torres is excellent at several things but those things are limited to the area between the last defender and goal. Torres influence on a game has always been about coming alive for chances as opposed to always being in the mix.
As opposed to Drogba who taking free-kick, corner, defending corners, crossing from the wing, dropping deep. They are such different types of players and Drogba is a much more versatile player. Anelka too for that matter. He could play down the center where they setting it up for Torres but he also show that he could play on th eoutside too.
The story about Lampard storming off is nonesense but his days are numbered in that Chelsea midfield because again Ramires and Meireles are better all-round midfielders at this point and Villas Boas try Lampard in Mikel role in pre-season with no success.
Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing.
JDB, yuh might be a manu fan but yuh have some sense in yuh head. :devil: I eh understand how men does be ssssso quick to cry down players and call dem "shit" nuh. For all his poor from coing into this team, Torres done prove he self on all levels and has DESTROYED my side a couple times well than fuh dem words to come out my mouth or off my fingertips. Men claiming that Mikel is "shit" holding down the holding mid role....outta his natural position and den it have asshole liverpool fans talkin' 'bout Petr Cech is "shit".......I really eh know where dem men does come out nuh.
"Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing."
While I agree with you, you can still see the team maintaining the old Chelsea way of taking their foot off the gas and knocking the ball around the midfield once they have a lead, much less a 4-goal lead. One of the biggest differences between my side and yours. manu could be up by friggin' FIVE with 8 minutes left and dey still eh takin' dey foot off de gas! Chelsea need to change that philosophy completely! Goal difference has killed us before, and with the league becoming so much more competitive, it may hurt us again.
Ramirez looks to be coming into his own. Good engine and very mobile.
Chelsea going forward are finding rhythm & somebody is going to be at the end of a hiding soon. Watch!
Anybody worth an ounce of fairness knew from early on that Ramires was going to eventually come into his own on this team (just like Torres will) and his so-called struggles eraly on were just about him going through an adjustment period. He might not be the smoothest operators on the ball and he is lanky and a little clumsy sometimes, especially with his finishing but we have other players to do those things. His work rate alone was going to reap rewards for him and I'm glad to see that some of these dumb-ass "critics" hadda hush dey mouth now and hope that their sides doh end up on the other end of that hiding you're expecting to happen. Even some of our own Chelsea fans was being rel unreasonable on d man.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 02, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
Just back from the game. A comfortable 4-1 blowout of Swansea despite playing 55 minutes with 10 men.
Torres is $h!t. Pretty much did nothing useful up until the moment Mata presented him with a superb ball in the box...on that occasion he did what he had to do and got his goal. Crowd gone wild...and soon after Ramires doubled the lead and Torres began to look like he had a purpose...then, inexplicably, he dived in two-footed on some Swansea player and got himself sent off...Cheers Fernando.
In his absence, Anelka was excellent...held up the ball well (admittedly that's been his 'strength' for some time now) and kept us looking like a threat all game...at one point he took on the entire Swansea back line and was inches away from scoring (hit the crossbar). He got a massive standing ovation when Drogba came on for him.
And once Drogba came back on for his cameo you could see the gulf in class between the Drog and Torres. He was a beast from the minute he came on, battering the Swansea defence. And his control, as always, is exquisite, the man can trap a ball better than anyone in the Premiership. His goal, perfectly taken, was another illustration of why Torres will never be an adequate replacement for him...and certainly should not be keeping him out of the team at the moment.
Fingers crossed, Torres gets a 3 match ban.
I thinik it harsh to call the man shit, Torres is excellent at several things but those things are limited to the area between the last defender and goal. Torres influence on a game has always been about coming alive for chances as opposed to always being in the mix.
As opposed to Drogba who taking free-kick, corner, defending corners, crossing from the wing, dropping deep. They are such different types of players and Drogba is a much more versatile player. Anelka too for that matter. He could play down the center where they setting it up for Torres but he also show that he could play on th eoutside too.
The story about Lampard storming off is nonesense but his days are numbered in that Chelsea midfield because again Ramires and Meireles are better all-round midfielders at this point and Villas Boas try Lampard in Mikel role in pre-season with no success.
Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing.
JDB, yuh might be a manu fan but yuh have some sense in yuh head. :devil: I eh understand how men does be ssssso quick to cry down players and call dem "shit" nuh. For all his poor from coing into this team, Torres done prove he self on all levels and has DESTROYED my side a couple times well than fuh dem words to come out my mouth or off my fingertips. Men claiming that Mikel is "shit" holding down the holding mid role....outta his natural position and den it have asshole liverpool fans talkin' 'bout Petr Cech is "shit".......I really eh know where dem men does come out nuh.
"Villas Boas actually doing a good job getting this team playing."
While I agree with you, you can still see the team maintaining the old Chelsea way of taking their foot off the gas and knocking the ball around the midfield once they have a lead, much less a 4-goal lead. One of the biggest differences between my side and yours. manu could be up by friggin' FIVE with 8 minutes left and dey still eh takin' dey foot off de gas! Chelsea need to change that philosophy completely! Goal difference has killed us before, and with the league becoming so much more competitive, it may hurt us again.Ramirez looks to be coming into his own. Good engine and very mobile.
Chelsea going forward are finding rhythm & somebody is going to be at the end of a hiding soon. Watch!
Anybody worth an ounce of fairness knew from early on that Ramires was going to eventually come into his own on this team (just like Torres will) and his so-called struggles eraly on were just about him going through an adjustment period. He might not be the smoothest operators on the ball and he is lanky and a little clumsy sometimes, especially with his finishing but we have other players to do those things. His work rate alone was going to reap rewards for him and I'm glad to see that some of these dumb-ass "critics" hadda hush dey mouth now and hope that their sides doh end up on the other end of that hiding you're expecting to happen. Even some of our own Chelsea fans was being rel unreasonable on d man.
Ramires is all yuh best athlete in midfield which is why he is an asset to your side.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 02, 2011, 10:17:32 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on October 02, 2011, 10:22:49 AM
...yeah. it kinda hard to argue that in a broad sense of the word even though I woulda say Mikel or Essien.......but there is no denying his industry on the field and he does have some speed. De man does be all over d place like Carib bottle. I even see Sturridge today, defending, against the run of play, all the way back in the box. Speed and hard work are highly invaluable.
Mikel slower than molassses and Essien has not been Essien after his first knee injury.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 02, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
...yeah. it kinda hard to argue that in a broad sense of the word even though I woulda say Mikel or Essien.......but there is no denying his industry on the field and he does have some speed. De man does be all over d place like Carib bottle. I even see Sturridge today, defending, against the run of play, all the way back in the box. Speed and hard work are highly invaluable.
Mikel slower than molassses and Essien has not been Essien after his first knee injury.
Mikel is methodical....deceptively quick (just arkske Kenwyne Jones) :laugh: but unfortunately (and i really hate saing this, but) I doh think we are ever going to see out of Essien, that which we do expect of him. He is just too injury-prone and we can never get a full and optimal season outta him. I really feel bad fuh him, but he is out now, will come back in sometime near the end of this season and then go down again. Between he and Pato ah dunno who more blight.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 02, 2011, 10:44:30 AM
...yeah. it kinda hard to argue that in a broad sense of the word even though I woulda say Mikel or Essien.......but there is no denying his industry on the field and he does have some speed. De man does be all over d place like Carib bottle. I even see Sturridge today, defending, against the run of play, all the way back in the box. Speed and hard work are highly invaluable.
Mikel slower than molassses and Essien has not been Essien after his first knee injury.
Mikel is methodical....deceptively quick (just arkske Kenwyne Jones) :laugh: but unfortunately (and i really hate saing this, but) I doh think we are ever going to see out of Essien, that which we do expect of him. He is just too injury-prone and we can never get a full and optimal season outta him. I really feel bad fuh him, but he is out now, will come back in sometime near the end of this season and then go down again. Between he and Pato ah dunno who more blight.
Yeah boi, in early days I always said Essien was the only Chelski player I would take at United; unfortunately his body continues to betray him. Pato's situation is also sad too; he has tuh realize that he can't afford tuh run full speed anymore and talk tuh Giggs about how tuh strengthen his hamstrings.
Post by: elan on October 07, 2011, 10:15:47 AM
Post by: elan on October 14, 2011, 11:26:32 AM
Post by: Bakes on October 14, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
Post by: elan on October 15, 2011, 11:53:23 AM
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 08:57:53 AM
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2011, 08:59:42 AM
Chelsea, doh play up today eh cause ah go cyah take talks from Man United supporters.
ah feel most will be to busy witt d suicide watch to care
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 23, 2011, 09:21:38 AM
Chelsea, doh play up today eh cause ah go cyah take talks from Man United supporters.
Yuh need a nex' picture to show the signing of Mark Clattenburg as well.
Post by: triniairman on October 23, 2011, 09:27:40 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl:Chelsea, doh play up today eh cause ah go cyah take talks from Man United supporters.
ah feel most will be to busy witt d suicide watch to care
Post by: triniairman on October 23, 2011, 09:29:32 AM
Post by: Bitter on October 23, 2011, 09:42:29 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 23, 2011, 09:49:59 AM
WTF Drogba??? ??? ??? >:( >:(
Stupid, stupid challenge especially when the ref has already shown his hand is lighter than air with the red cards.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 23, 2011, 09:51:10 AM
:heehee: :heehee: 2 red cards, that ref is ah kinda arse ah wat???? :cursing: :cursing: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Kinda like the arse that was sly in letting evra off the hook today.
Post by: Bitter on October 23, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
This ref should be dealing in Vegas
Post by: Bitter on October 23, 2011, 10:54:15 AM
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2011, 10:56:46 AM
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
Oh well Man United still got 6. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: triniairman on October 23, 2011, 10:58:37 AM
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 23, 2011, 11:04:15 AM
still doh to put QPR under pressure wit nine men :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: QPR need to do some tinkin or there season will be pressure
I was thinkin' the same thing. Anelka coulda been a super friggin' hero today and he drop d sword. That ref is a KNOWN asshole and today's game really (should) put him more in that spotlight.
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 11:04:27 AM
I blame Man.UnitedCity!! PS. Go suck ah D**K elan!!
Yuh just get 6 in yuh arse. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: fari on October 23, 2011, 11:44:19 AM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 28, 2011, 08:51:02 AM
Post by: doublet750 on October 28, 2011, 11:03:44 AM
Drogba, Bosingwa, Turnbull Through suspension
Everyone else is fit and ready tho there are slight doubts about Anelka and Hilario
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 28, 2011, 12:20:48 PM
only unavailable players for the game are:beermug:
Drogba, Bosingwa, Turnbull Through suspension
Everyone else is fit and ready tho there are slight doubts about Anelka and Hilario
Post by: Peong on October 28, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
only unavailable players for the game are
Drogba, Bosingwa, Turnbull Through suspension
Everyone else is fit and ready tho there are slight doubts about Anelka and Hilario
Bosingwa is not suspended and is available.
He served the ban for the Carling Cup game.
http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-sport/london-chelsea-fc/2011/10/25/bosingwa-ban-points-to-chelsea-priorities-64767-29658629/
Post by: Brownsugar on October 29, 2011, 07:38:34 AM
As a Chelsea fan....ah vex....as a Dutch fan ah glad..... ;D
Post by: Daft Trini on October 29, 2011, 07:45:15 AM
Post by: Touches on October 29, 2011, 07:45:52 AM
Post by: Bitter on October 29, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
I think Terry slip on some stray racism on the field. :devil: We need to clean that up...
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2011, 07:52:47 AM
I think Terry slip on some stray racism on the field. :devil: We need to clean that up...
lol
The FA have tuh interview de grass first...
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 29, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
Lol. Allyuh have me deadin.I think Terry slip on some stray racism on the field. :devil: We need to clean that up...
lol
The FA have tuh interview de grass first...
Boss goal by Mata though. Foul or no foul.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 29, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
QPR after the laugh and now 5 at home with 11 men against a side we hit for 8
keep laughing clowns
C-H-3-L-5-E-A
Post by: fari on October 29, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 29, 2011, 08:23:15 AM
yea laugh at a 10 man United getting licks
QPR after the laugh and now 5 at home with 11 men against a side we hit for 8
keep laughing clowns
C-H-3-L-5-E-A
Oh United was "10-man" but Arsenal was "a side we hit for 8". We didn't play with 10 men too? Difference was, we had 3 starters, United colleck 6 missing 2 starters.
Why do I bother...
Post by: dinho on October 29, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
Terrible game by Cech.. He let in 3 near post goals, that should never happen with a keeper.
This is a wild EPL season.
Post by: dinho on October 29, 2011, 09:11:00 AM
yea laugh at a 10 man United getting licks
QPR after the laugh and now 5 at home with 11 men against a side we hit for 8
keep laughing clowns
C-H-3-L-5-E-A
Easy yuh self small mag, this loss is only about half as embarrasing as the 6 allyuh get from City.
I sure you can deduce the difference between a high scoring win and a frankoment blowout.
People gonna remember that cutass allyuh get for years to come.
Post by: injunchile on October 29, 2011, 11:41:26 AM
Post by: DeSoWa on October 29, 2011, 12:56:33 PM
Big Up!
Post by: D.H.W on October 29, 2011, 06:59:48 PM
Post by: elan on October 29, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Blue Through and Through!!!!!
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2011, 09:26:52 PM
Petr Cech... lol
Post by: Blue on October 30, 2011, 01:45:12 PM
I am under no illusions, this might be the first time we dropped points at home this season, but I have seen enough of us even before yesterday to know that our best hope is third. It was a great game, but neither of these teams are anywhere near as good as the Manchester clubs.
Torres was shocking yet again, I have given up on him long ago. Sturridge was awful yesterday as well. He started ok but his finishing was dreadful and I think that hurt his confidence, he was eventually hauled off to everyone's relief.
Chelsea defended badly all game but most of the goals weren't the result of bad defending.
Arsenal goal #1 was a great combo by the Arsenal attack.
#2 was poor defending.
#3 happened because everyone in the stadium thought the ref would blow for a foul (or a dive) and Theo got up and caught everyone by surprise.
#4 was a simple mistake.
#5 was irrelevant.
I see Cech getting a lot of pressure in this thread. I haven't seen the highlights but other than the last goal none of them seemed preventable from where I was sitting.
And I am still baffled as to why Anelka wasn't at least on the bench yesterday. I definitely think he would have bullied that Arsenal defence better than Torres or Lukaku.
Great performance by both the Arsenal and Chelsea midfields yesterday (well, in attack anyway). And special shoutout to Mata for another magnificent performance. Will definitely be our player of the season
Post by: giggsy11 on October 30, 2011, 01:59:24 PM
Yesterday's game was a classic, just a shame we were on the wrong end of it. When Mata equalised with that bullet, I thought this game was gonna go down as a memorable one for us, but then Terry effed it up. Congrats Arsenal fans, yuh side played to the best of their ability yesterday and yuh got the luck near the end that I guess has been eluding you so far this season. Well done. Van Persie is a special player and he was excellent yesterday - and I am not even including his final 2 gifted goals in that rating -he had us running scared all game long.
I am under no illusions, this might be the first time we dropped points at home this season, but I have seen enough of us even before yesterday to know that our best hope is third. It was a great game, but neither of these teams are anywhere near as good as the Manchester clubs.
Torres was shocking yet again, I have given up on him long ago. Sturridge was awful yesterday as well. He started ok but his finishing was dreadful and I think that hurt his confidence, he was eventually hauled off to everyone's relief.
Chelsea defended badly all game but most of the goals weren't the result of bad defending.
Arsenal goal #1 was a great combo by the Arsenal attack.
#2 was poor defending.
#3 happened because everyone in the stadium thought the ref would blow for a foul (or a dive) and Theo got up and could everyone by surprise.
#4 was a simple mistake.
#5 was irrelevant.
I see Cech getting a lot of pressure in this thread. I haven't seen the highlights but other than the last goal none of them seemed preventable from where I was sitting.
And I am still baffled as to why Anelka wasn't at least on the bench yesterday. I definitely think he would have bullied that Arsenal defence better than Torres or Lukaku.
Great performance by both the Arsenal and Chelsea midfields yesterday (well, in attack anyway). And special shoutout to Mata for another magnificent performance. Will definitely be our player of the season
I am no Terry fan even if he stayed on his feet what was he suppose to do with Malouda's bad pass as Van Persie was bearing down on him? Malouda's pass was a bad one; he didn't pass it away from the goal but it was a straight pass back with Van Persie coming hard and leaving Terry with no room for error. Malouda's bad pass contributed to the outcome of that play.
Post by: Blue on October 30, 2011, 02:21:42 PM
I am no Terry fan even if he stayed on his feet what was he suppose to do with Malouda's bad pass as Van Persie was bearing down on him? Malouda's pass was a bad one; he didn't pass it away from the goal but it was a straight pass back with Van Persie coming hard and leaving Terry with no room for error. Malouda's bad pass contributed to the outcome of that play.
Obviously Malouda's pass was bad in the first place. But had Terry not slipped there is no doubt he would have gotten their before Van Persie, and I could guarantee that Terry wouldn't have hesitated to boot the ball into row Z or take a red card to prevent a goal.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 30, 2011, 03:43:48 PM
Post by: Touches on October 31, 2011, 06:26:13 AM
Post by: kicker on October 31, 2011, 07:26:48 AM
Either side could have conceded about 2 goals within the first 10 mins... Really amateur looking stuff.
Arsenal organized themselves at the back (well more in the defensive middle) in the 2nd 45 and punished Chelsea for their continued sloppiness, and deserved to win overall, but this was not a match that showcased the quality of two top tier heavyweights...
Good entertainment though.
Post by: doublet750 on October 31, 2011, 09:36:38 AM
This team has to step up or they could find themselves in another rot like they did this time last season ....it would be even worse now tho as they are already 9 behind the leaders
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2011, 10:34:14 AM
News is AVB tear d players a new one in training the day after the game and instead of the usual 20min cool down session and getting to go home he keep they tail outside for a hard training session.
This team has to step up or they could find themselves in another rot like they did this time last season ....it would be even worse now tho as they are already 9 behind the leaders
They deserve every new one he rip them (Drogba, too!)...speaking of Drogba, is it me or did the same tackle that got him (deservedly) sent off against QPR the same one that some committed on Mata's goal?
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 31, 2011, 11:00:41 AM
Lol. Allyuh have me deadin.I think Terry slip on some stray racism on the field. :devil: We need to clean that up...
lol
The FA have tuh interview de grass first...
Boss goal by Mata though. Foul or no foul.
mata goal deflected off song leg
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 31, 2011, 11:02:15 AM
News is AVB tear d players a new one in training the day after the game and instead of the usual 20min cool down session and getting to go home he keep they tail outside for a hard training session.
This team has to step up or they could find themselves in another rot like they did this time last season ....it would be even worse now tho as they are already 9 behind the leaders
They deserve every new one he rip them (Drogba, too!)...speaking of Drogba, is it me or did the same tackle that got him (deservedly) sent off against QPR the same one that some committed on Mata's goal?
just you
song didnt go in two footed at mata
song went in one leg trying to block the shot
there is a differencesong was trying to get between the ball and goal not tackling the man
Post by: Ngozi on October 31, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
Chelsea just put on they best Arsenal impression. It look good... ::)
I think Terry slip on some stray racism on the field. :devil: We need to clean that up...
lol yeah that could be a bit slipperry lol
Post by: doublet750 on October 31, 2011, 06:44:45 PM
News is AVB tear d players a new one in training the day after the game and instead of the usual 20min cool down session and getting to go home he keep they tail outside for a hard training session.
This team has to step up or they could find themselves in another rot like they did this time last season ....it would be even worse now tho as they are already 9 behind the leaders
They deserve every new one he rip them (Drogba, too!)...speaking of Drogba, is it me or did the same tackle that got him (deservedly) sent off against QPR the same one that some committed on Mata's goal?
just you
song didnt go in two footed at mata
song went in one leg trying to block the shot
there is a differencesong was trying to get between the ball and goal not tackling the man
yea the biggest difference beside the one leg and two was the fact song try and stop a shot at goal...drogba hit ah tackle facing he OWN GOAL in the other half of the field smh...but he did apologise to his team mates....i still feel that game period tho he look out of it
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2011, 08:24:44 PM
Song coulda still easily got at least a yellow on dat tackle. Water under d bridge though.News is AVB tear d players a new one in training the day after the game and instead of the usual 20min cool down session and getting to go home he keep they tail outside for a hard training session.
This team has to step up or they could find themselves in another rot like they did this time last season ....it would be even worse now tho as they are already 9 behind the leaders
They deserve every new one he rip them (Drogba, too!)...speaking of Drogba, is it me or did the same tackle that got him (deservedly) sent off against QPR the same one that some committed on Mata's goal?
just you
song didnt go in two footed at mata
song went in one leg trying to block the shot
there is a differencesong was trying to get between the ball and goal not tackling the man
yea the biggest difference beside the one leg and two was the fact song try and stop a shot at goal...drogba hit ah tackle facing he OWN GOAL in the other half of the field smh...but he did apologise to his team mates....i still feel that game period tho he look out of it
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 05, 2011, 07:40:21 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on November 05, 2011, 09:18:01 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 05, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
Thank goodness Cech wears that dunce cap!
:laugh: Like somebody leave out d sugar on d counter boy....d
Post by: giggsy11 on November 05, 2011, 09:34:03 AM
Thank goodness Cech wears that dunce cap!
:laugh: Like somebody leave out d sugar on d counter boy....droachesmanu fans startin' to come out.
Lol! I doh know who side lookin worse today, your or mine! I bet Cech doh come back out after half time.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 05, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
Thank goodness Cech wears that dunce cap!
:laugh: Like somebody leave out d sugar on d counter boy....droachesmanu fans startin' to come out.
Lol! I doh know who side lookin worse today, your or mine! I bet Cech doh come back out after half time.
at least allyuh shyte side up a goal. (there IS hope :praying: for us after all!)
Post by: injunchile on November 05, 2011, 01:44:14 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 09:48:03 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on November 20, 2011, 10:10:07 AM
....good mornin', folks. Ah feelin' it today. We breakin' dis bad run we been havin' lately against dis shyte side. I say we put JT on suarez....fight (racist) fire wit fire.
And the battle of the pudgy midfielders-Adams vs Lumpard!
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 10:34:48 AM
....good mornin', folks. Ah feelin' it today. We breakin' dis bad run we been havin' lately against dis shyte side. I say we put JT on suarez....fight (racist) fire wit fire.
And the battle of the pudgy midfielders-Adams vs Lumpard!
between he and Malouda and the critical role he plays for this team the two of them does lose posession far too easily and far too often fuh my liking.
Post by: Daft Trini on November 20, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2011, 12:39:33 PM
Mikel... lol
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 20, 2011, 12:40:45 PM
I honestly think he will be replaced this week and Guus will be the new manager which is a scary thought as we know he can get them going
AVB has a bright future though but he has to be given time and not have a money hungry c**t breathing over him.. he needs a club that will give him a chance to do his thing... If Chelsea keep him for the season I'd be surprised
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
stop spending money on mega yachts abramovich and spend it on players... torres might start clicking fuh an extra 50 mil...
Gwan nuh hater! lol! Allyuh in allyuh glee eh! Our team jes' not clickin' right now at all. Still too methodical in midfield, too slow in defense and too wasteful on front of goal.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
Malouda was easily Chelsea's MOM... I doubt any one defender in the PL has fallen off as fast as Terry has today. Better game by Suarez with his decision making and Terry's flaws would have been further exposed. On one play he failed to find Bellamy in space after Terry stepped up to get the ball and get skinned... on another he try ah 50-yard chip instead of sending Kuyt 1-v-1 with Cech.
Mikel... lol
Chelsea didn't have any players that coulda "easily" get no MOM. They all played shit. Malouda took a terrible shot that was lucky to fall for Sturridge and he is one of Chelsea's perennial ball-losers in the mid and attaccking thirds of the field along with Lampard and stiill need 10 tries just to deliver 1 proper ball into the box. Not to mention the glaring miss in front of goal dat you woulda raping Torres for had he missed it. Liverpool's aggressiveness paid off and it was effective against ALL the midfielders in the first half, not just Mikel.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
I like AVB but I feel he inherited a squad that stale and on the out and needed a manager with years of experience to get them to perform
I honestly think he will be replaced this week and Guus will be the new manager which is a scary thought as we know he can get them going
AVB has a bright future though but he has to be given time and not have a money hungry c**t breathing over him.. he needs a club that will give him a chance to do his thing... If Chelsea keep him for the season I'd be surprised
Chelsea need to revamp some/all of their aging players, plain and simple. Lampard and Terry are becoming more liabilities than assets as time goes on and it's becoming more and more evident that they are struggling more and more with the sheer pace of the game. Ashley Cole gamble and bite hard on johnson's ball control at a time yuh wish he wouldna be so aggressive.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 20, 2011, 01:02:34 PM
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2011, 01:11:34 PM
Chelsea didn't have any players that coulda "easily" get no MOM. They all played shit. Malouda took a terrible shot that was lucky to fall for Sturridge and he is one of Chelsea's perennial ball-losers in the mid and attaccking thirds of the field along with Lampard and stiill need 10 tries just to deliver 1 proper ball into the box. Not to mention the glaring miss in front of goal dat you woulda raping Torres for had he missed it. Liverpool's aggressiveness paid off and it was effective against ALL the midfielders in the first half, not just Mikel.
All the midfielders was shitty... but only one get pull at halftime. I'm sure that really helps your argument. Malouda had an assist (lucky or not) on one goal and nearly had a hand in two others. If all the midfield was shitty and he was the best, of the shitty lot, how does that refute that he was easily the best MOM candidate? Yuh so ready to argue that yuh talking shit without realizing it... or maybe yuh do and just cyah help yuhself.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
If this is what they are going to get from some of their senior players, Chelski might as well start playing some of their youngsters in defense and midfield. Get them some experience and raise the energy level in the side. Lampard is so damn one demensional that if he doesn't score he brings nothing else to the table. He always looking to drive forward tuh score and leaving the midfeild expose as well as not creating anything for the forwards. As well is taking up the space where a Mata likes to operate.
People does get tie up wit Lampard....ah love de guy, but his tim has passed and the pace and style of the game now is beyond him. Yes, he is probably one of the (current) leading scorers on the team, but that has just as much to do with the other goal-scorers not stepping up. Chelsea has ALWAYS been vulnerable against aggressive teams and it does frustrate de hell outta me to see players getting out-hustled. Is no secret what liverpool was doing. Mikel had his bad moment today but he plays his role quite well......ah starting to worry 'bout Ashley Cole....he startin' to look like de old Ashley Cole of 2002....he having more and more of his Ronaldinho moments and that is never good. David Luiz was trying too hard to do too much today and it nearly kill us off. For me, as per usual, the effort that Ramires does put out was our only saving grace in midfield and that says alot.
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2011, 01:23:05 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 01:27:29 PM
Chelsea didn't have any players that coulda "easily" get no MOM. They all played shit. Malouda took a terrible shot that was lucky to fall for Sturridge and he is one of Chelsea's perennial ball-losers in the mid and attaccking thirds of the field along with Lampard and stiill need 10 tries just to deliver 1 proper ball into the box. Not to mention the glaring miss in front of goal dat you woulda raping Torres for had he missed it. Liverpool's aggressiveness paid off and it was effective against ALL the midfielders in the first half, not just Mikel.
All the midfielders was shitty... but only one get pull at halftime. I'm sure that really helps your argument. Malouda had an assist (lucky or not) on one goal and nearly had a hand in two others. If all the midfield was shitty and he was the best, of the shitty lot, how does that refute that he was easily the best MOM candidate? Yuh so ready to argue that yuh talking shit without realizing it... or maybe yuh do and just cyah help yuhself.
"nearly" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades so them two goals that Malouda "nearly" had a hand in, means nothing. An asshole like yourself would never see how his shaky possession plays into the hands of the aggressive teams game in and game out. An asshole like you would see that he has opportunities and space to deliver quality crosses in the box and can't do it to proper effect and call it a "MOM performance" Assholes (plural) like you would see Mikel's subbing as a performance oriented one as opposed to a tactical one and overlook the shit that Lampard and David Luiz was playing, constantly losing the ball and playing into liverpool's aggression. There were a myriad of players that could have gotten pulled if "performance" was the motive.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 01:29:34 PM
Chelsea didn't have any players that coulda "easily" get no MOM. They all played shit. Malouda took a terrible shot that was lucky to fall for Sturridge and he is one of Chelsea's perennial ball-losers in the mid and attaccking thirds of the field along with Lampard and stiill need 10 tries just to deliver 1 proper ball into the box. Not to mention the glaring miss in front of goal dat you woulda raping Torres for had he missed it. Liverpool's aggressiveness paid off and it was effective against ALL the midfielders in the first half, not just Mikel.
All the midfielders was shitty... but only one get pull at halftime. I'm sure that really helps your argument. Malouda had an assist (lucky or not) on one goal and nearly had a hand in two others. If all the midfield was shitty and he was the best, of the shitty lot, how does that refute that he was easily the best MOM candidate? Yuh so ready to argue that yuh talking shit without realizing it... or maybe yuh do and just cyah help yuhself.
Yuh need to watch a game and underststand what is going on in truth rather than comng on here and trying to "win arguments".
Post by: giggsy11 on November 20, 2011, 01:34:14 PM
If this is what they are going to get from some of their senior players, Chelski might as well start playing some of their youngsters in defense and midfield. Get them some experience and raise the energy level in the side. Lampard is so damn one demensional that if he doesn't score he brings nothing else to the table. He always looking to drive forward tuh score and leaving the midfeild expose as well as not creating anything for the forwards. As well is taking up the space where a Mata likes to operate.
People does get tie up wit Lampard....ah love de guy, but his tim has passed and the pace and style of the game now is beyond him. Yes, he is probably one of the (current) leading scorers on the team, but that has just as much to do with the other goal-scorers not stepping up. Chelsea has ALWAYS been vulnerable against aggressive teams and it does frustrate de hell outta me to see players getting out-hustled. Is no secret what liverpool was doing. Mikel had his bad moment today but he plays his role quite well......ah starting to worry 'bout Ashley Cole....he startin' to look like de old Ashley Cole of 2002....he having more and more of his Ronaldinho moments and that is never good. David Luiz was trying too hard to do too much today and it nearly kill us off. For me, as per usual, the effort that Ramires does put out was our only saving grace in midfield and that says alot.
If Chelski can replace Lampard and Malouda with a decent/speedy wingers, play Mata (creativity), Ramires( agressive and athletic), and Mikel (only because he is the most defensive of our mids) the side would look better. If not Mikel play one of your younger mids. Dey need tuh pick dey spots when Lampard play instead of still treating him like he undroppable. Ashley Cole as he has gotten older is starting to cheat and as a result his positioning has been poor. No way one footed Valencia, should have had the beating of him as much as he did last year when United played them. Also I think he has a lot of wear and tear on that body; that fella does hardly get rest-similar to how United does be running Evra out dey game after game.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 20, 2011, 01:37:41 PM
Chelsea didn't have any players that coulda "easily" get no MOM. They all played shit. Malouda took a terrible shot that was lucky to fall for Sturridge and he is one of Chelsea's perennial ball-losers in the mid and attaccking thirds of the field along with Lampard and stiill need 10 tries just to deliver 1 proper ball into the box. Not to mention the glaring miss in front of goal dat you woulda raping Torres for had he missed it. Liverpool's aggressiveness paid off and it was effective against ALL the midfielders in the first half, not just Mikel.
All the midfielders was shitty... but only one get pull at halftime. I'm sure that really helps your argument. Malouda had an assist (lucky or not) on one goal and nearly had a hand in two others. If all the midfield was shitty and he was the best, of the shitty lot, how does that refute that he was easily the best MOM candidate? Yuh so ready to argue that yuh talking shit without realizing it... or maybe yuh do and just cyah help yuhself.
Yuh need to watch a game and underststand what is going on in truth rather than comng on here and trying to "win arguments".
On the Soca Warriors "People's Court".
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2011, 02:03:42 PM
"nearly" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades so them two goals that Malouda "nearly" had a hand in, means nothing. An asshole like yourself would never see how his shaky possession plays into the hands of the aggressive teams game in and game out. An asshole like you would see that he has opportunities and space to deliver quality crosses in the box and can't do it to proper effect and call it a "MOM performance" Assholes (plural) like you would see Mikel's subbing as a performance oriented one as opposed to a tactical one and overlook the shit that Lampard and David Luiz was playing, constantly losing the ball and playing into liverpool's aggression. There were a myriad of players that could have gotten pulled if "performance" was the motive.
"Assholes" like me, the commentating team and every English writer who covered the game have said that Mikel was subbed for a shitty performance. But you's de real expert (asshole and Mikel fanboy) so of course you know better. For everything negative yuh have to say about Malouda none of that refutes the point that he was yuh shitty teams best shitty player on the day. Now yuh talking about who looking to "win arguments" LOL Just admit yuh talking shit and hush yuh ass and there would be no "arguments".
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 02:28:34 PM
"nearly" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades so them two goals that Malouda "nearly" had a hand in, means nothing. An asshole like yourself would never see how his shaky possession plays into the hands of the aggressive teams game in and game out. An asshole like you would see that he has opportunities and space to deliver quality crosses in the box and can't do it to proper effect and call it a "MOM performance" Assholes (plural) like you would see Mikel's subbing as a performance oriented one as opposed to a tactical one and overlook the shit that Lampard and David Luiz was playing, constantly losing the ball and playing into liverpool's aggression. There were a myriad of players that could have gotten pulled if "performance" was the motive.
"Assholes" like me, the commentating team and every English writer who covered the game have said that Mikel was subbed for a shitty performance. But you's de real expert (asshole and Mikel fanboy) so of course you know better. For everything negative yuh have to say about Malouda none of that refutes the point that he was yuh shitty teams best shitty player on the day. Now yuh talking about who looking to "win arguments" LOL Just admit yuh talking shit and hush yuh ass and there would be no "arguments".
Proving the ass-hole you are, you quoting english writers and commentators that fail to admit Frank Lampard's shortcomings and level of liability. Them same "commentators" pointed out that liverpool failed to capitalize on the defensive exposure that Mikel's departure left. Both team's tactics changed at the half. Ivanovic played his role much better than Malouda played his, John Terry with his slow ass, played his role much better than Malouda played his but you (and the English writers) wanna "easily" give a man a team's MOM for underachieving. Mikel had a decent game apart from his error (but of course a c**t like you would only be focused on the error.) Same miss yuh woulda be biting off Torres dick for, yuh suckin' Malouda balls to say nothing. You keep listening to English journalism.
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2011, 02:36:19 PM
Proving the ass-hole you are, you quoting english writers and commentators that fail to admit Frank Lampard's shortcomings and level of liability. Them same "commentators" pointed out that liverpool failed to capitalize on the defensive exposure that Mikel's departure left. Both team's tactics changed at the half. Ivanovic played his role much better than Malouda played his, John Terry with his slow ass, played his role much better than Malouda played his but you (and the English writers) wanna "easily" give a man a team's MOM for underachieving. Mikel had a decent game apart from his error (but of course a c**t like you would only be focused on the error.) Same miss yuh woulda be biting off Torres dick for, yuh suckin' Malouda balls to say nothing. You keep listening to English journalism.
You must really be on Giggsy period because yuh having ah hard time staying focused with all this Terry and Lampard talk (not sure who yuh arguing wid on dat one). Okay, so Mikel had a great game until Villas-Boas mysteriously decide tuh sub him and Malouda had a shitty game. All this homosexual talk starting tuh hurt mih feelings, so leh we try and focus yuh. Who was Chelsea MOM?
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
Proving the ass-hole you are, you quoting english writers and commentators that fail to admit Frank Lampard's shortcomings and level of liability. Them same "commentators" pointed out that liverpool failed to capitalize on the defensive exposure that Mikel's departure left. Both team's tactics changed at the half. Ivanovic played his role much better than Malouda played his, John Terry with his slow ass, played his role much better than Malouda played his but you (and the English writers) wanna "easily" give a man a team's MOM for underachieving. Mikel had a decent game apart from his error (but of course a c**t like you would only be focused on the error.) Same miss yuh woulda be biting off Torres dick for, yuh suckin' Malouda balls to say nothing. You keep listening to English journalism.
You must really be on Giggsy period because yuh having ah hard time staying focused with all this Terry and Lampard talk (not sure who yuh arguing wid on dat one). Okay, so Mikel had a great game until Villas-Boas mysteriously decide tuh sub him and Malouda had a shitty game. All this homosexual talk starting tuh hurt mih feelings, so leh we try and focus yuh. Who was Chelsea MOM?
I don't give a f**k about "awarding" no player on the team no MOM, especially when they playing below par. Instead of just coming on here and re-hashing the shit you hear why don't you watch the game again on Fox % and compare Mikel's role as a defensive midfielder and how he handled the pressure to how Lampard handled his, how Ivanovic handled his, how John Terry handled his. Liverpool could have easily been up by at least 2 goals at the half had it not been for Chelsea's defenders handling the pressure that the midfield could not. Men like Lampard and Malouda were not stepping up and not maintaining possession. He STILL wasn't the best shitty player, c**t. You are obviously one of those narrow people that only see "offense" and because Malouda show a few flashes you want to overlook his shortcomings and how they were/are affecting the team. Aside from Mikel's error, he played his role as he was expected to. Look at how many times David Luiz lost possession, tryin' to take on 3 and 4 men. the only diffeence between his losing possession as often as he did and Mikel that one time was that Mikel's loss ended up in a goal. How many times did Lampard give away the ball with poor passing or ball control. Stop listening to other people and watch and evaluate the game (properly) fuh yuh self. MOM my ass. Who cares?!
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2011, 03:11:16 PM
I don't give a f**k about "awarding" no player on the team no MOM, especially when they playing below par. Instead of just coming on here and re-hashing the shit you hear why don't you watch the game again on Fox % and compare Mikel's role as a defensive midfielder and how he handled the pressure to how Lampard handled his, how Ivanovic handled his, how John Terry handled his. Liverpool could have easily been up by at least 2 goals at the half had it not been for Chelsea's defenders handling the pressure that the midfield could not. Men like Lampard and Malouda were not stepping up and not maintaining possession. He STILL wasn't the best shitty player, c**t. You are obviously one of those narrow people that only see "offense" and because Malouda show a few flashes you want to overlook his shortcomings and how they were/are affecting the team. Aside from Mikel's error, he played his role as he was expected to. Look at how many times David Luiz lost possession, tryin' to take on 3 and 4 men. the only diffeence between his losing possession as often as he did and Mikel that one time was that Mikel's loss ended up in a goal. How many times did Lampard give away the ball with poor passing or ball control. Stop listening to other people and watch and evaluate the game (properly) fuh yuh self. MOM my ass. Who cares?!
So... Mikel was MOM? Yuh kinda loss mih wid all dem setta words.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
I don't give a f**k about "awarding" no player on the team no MOM, especially when they playing below par. Instead of just coming on here and re-hashing the shit you hear why don't you watch the game again on Fox % and compare Mikel's role as a defensive midfielder and how he handled the pressure to how Lampard handled his, how Ivanovic handled his, how John Terry handled his. Liverpool could have easily been up by at least 2 goals at the half had it not been for Chelsea's defenders handling the pressure that the midfield could not. Men like Lampard and Malouda were not stepping up and not maintaining possession. He STILL wasn't the best shitty player, c**t. You are obviously one of those narrow people that only see "offense" and because Malouda show a few flashes you want to overlook his shortcomings and how they were/are affecting the team. Aside from Mikel's error, he played his role as he was expected to. Look at how many times David Luiz lost possession, tryin' to take on 3 and 4 men. the only diffeence between his losing possession as often as he did and Mikel that one time was that Mikel's loss ended up in a goal. How many times did Lampard give away the ball with poor passing or ball control. Stop listening to other people and watch and evaluate the game (properly) fuh yuh self. MOM my ass. Who cares?!
So... Mikel was MOM? Yuh kinda loss mih wid all dem setta words.
You was lost since I tell yuh to watch d game without being influenced by commentators and journalists.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 20, 2011, 03:17:23 PM
Proving the ass-hole you are, you quoting english writers and commentators that fail to admit Frank Lampard's shortcomings and level of liability. Them same "commentators" pointed out that liverpool failed to capitalize on the defensive exposure that Mikel's departure left. Both team's tactics changed at the half. Ivanovic played his role much better than Malouda played his, John Terry with his slow ass, played his role much better than Malouda played his but you (and the English writers) wanna "easily" give a man a team's MOM for underachieving. Mikel had a decent game apart from his error (but of course a c**t like you would only be focused on the error.) Same miss yuh woulda be biting off Torres dick for, yuh suckin' Malouda balls to say nothing. You keep listening to English journalism.
You must really be on Giggsy period because yuh having ah hard time staying focused with all this Terry and Lampard talk (not sure who yuh arguing wid on dat one). Okay, so Mikel had a great game until Villas-Boas mysteriously decide tuh sub him and Malouda had a shitty game. All this homosexual talk starting tuh hurt mih feelings, so leh we try and focus yuh. Who was Chelsea MOM?
I don't give a f**k about "awarding" no player on the team no MOM, especially when they playing below par. Instead of just coming on here and re-hashing the shit you hear why don't you watch the game again on Fox % and compare Mikel's role as a defensive midfielder and how he handled the pressure to how Lampard handled his, how Ivanovic handled his, how John Terry handled his. Liverpool could have easily been up by at least 2 goals at the half had it not been for Chelsea's defenders handling the pressure that the midfield could not. Men like Lampard and Malouda were not stepping up and not maintaining possession. He STILL wasn't the best shitty player, c**t. You are obviously one of those narrow people that only see "offense" and because Malouda show a few flashes you want to overlook his shortcomings and how they were/are affecting the team. Aside from Mikel's error, he played his role as he was expected to. Look at how many times David Luiz lost possession, tryin' to take on 3 and 4 men. the only diffeence between his losing possession as often as he did and Mikel that one time was that Mikel's loss ended up in a goal. How many times did Lampard give away the ball with poor passing or ball control. Stop listening to other people and watch and evaluate the game (properly) fuh yuh self. MOM my ass. Who cares?!
Why are you even responding; you know that he socially inept and is a troll who regurgitates everything he reads and hears in an effort to give the impression he knows what he is talking about/intelligent.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2011, 03:20:32 PM
Proving the ass-hole you are, you quoting english writers and commentators that fail to admit Frank Lampard's shortcomings and level of liability. Them same "commentators" pointed out that liverpool failed to capitalize on the defensive exposure that Mikel's departure left. Both team's tactics changed at the half. Ivanovic played his role much better than Malouda played his, John Terry with his slow ass, played his role much better than Malouda played his but you (and the English writers) wanna "easily" give a man a team's MOM for underachieving. Mikel had a decent game apart from his error (but of course a c**t like you would only be focused on the error.) Same miss yuh woulda be biting off Torres dick for, yuh suckin' Malouda balls to say nothing. You keep listening to English journalism.
You must really be on Giggsy period because yuh having ah hard time staying focused with all this Terry and Lampard talk (not sure who yuh arguing wid on dat one). Okay, so Mikel had a great game until Villas-Boas mysteriously decide tuh sub him and Malouda had a shitty game. All this homosexual talk starting tuh hurt mih feelings, so leh we try and focus yuh. Who was Chelsea MOM?
I don't give a f**k about "awarding" no player on the team no MOM, especially when they playing below par. Instead of just coming on here and re-hashing the shit you hear why don't you watch the game again on Fox % and compare Mikel's role as a defensive midfielder and how he handled the pressure to how Lampard handled his, how Ivanovic handled his, how John Terry handled his. Liverpool could have easily been up by at least 2 goals at the half had it not been for Chelsea's defenders handling the pressure that the midfield could not. Men like Lampard and Malouda were not stepping up and not maintaining possession. He STILL wasn't the best shitty player, c**t. You are obviously one of those narrow people that only see "offense" and because Malouda show a few flashes you want to overlook his shortcomings and how they were/are affecting the team. Aside from Mikel's error, he played his role as he was expected to. Look at how many times David Luiz lost possession, tryin' to take on 3 and 4 men. the only diffeence between his losing possession as often as he did and Mikel that one time was that Mikel's loss ended up in a goal. How many times did Lampard give away the ball with poor passing or ball control. Stop listening to other people and watch and evaluate the game (properly) fuh yuh self. MOM my ass. Who cares?!
Why are you even responding; you know that he socially inept and is a troll who regurgitates everything he reads and hears in an effort to give the impression he knows what he is talking about/intelligent.
Ah have a few minutes where ah have nutting better to do.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 20, 2011, 03:24:44 PM
Proving the ass-hole you are, you quoting english writers and commentators that fail to admit Frank Lampard's shortcomings and level of liability. Them same "commentators" pointed out that liverpool failed to capitalize on the defensive exposure that Mikel's departure left. Both team's tactics changed at the half. Ivanovic played his role much better than Malouda played his, John Terry with his slow ass, played his role much better than Malouda played his but you (and the English writers) wanna "easily" give a man a team's MOM for underachieving. Mikel had a decent game apart from his error (but of course a c**t like you would only be focused on the error.) Same miss yuh woulda be biting off Torres dick for, yuh suckin' Malouda balls to say nothing. You keep listening to English journalism.
You must really be on Giggsy period because yuh having ah hard time staying focused with all this Terry and Lampard talk (not sure who yuh arguing wid on dat one). Okay, so Mikel had a great game until Villas-Boas mysteriously decide tuh sub him and Malouda had a shitty game. All this homosexual talk starting tuh hurt mih feelings, so leh we try and focus yuh. Who was Chelsea MOM?
I don't give a f**k about "awarding" no player on the team no MOM, especially when they playing below par. Instead of just coming on here and re-hashing the shit you hear why don't you watch the game again on Fox % and compare Mikel's role as a defensive midfielder and how he handled the pressure to how Lampard handled his, how Ivanovic handled his, how John Terry handled his. Liverpool could have easily been up by at least 2 goals at the half had it not been for Chelsea's defenders handling the pressure that the midfield could not. Men like Lampard and Malouda were not stepping up and not maintaining possession. He STILL wasn't the best shitty player, c**t. You are obviously one of those narrow people that only see "offense" and because Malouda show a few flashes you want to overlook his shortcomings and how they were/are affecting the team. Aside from Mikel's error, he played his role as he was expected to. Look at how many times David Luiz lost possession, tryin' to take on 3 and 4 men. the only diffeence between his losing possession as often as he did and Mikel that one time was that Mikel's loss ended up in a goal. How many times did Lampard give away the ball with poor passing or ball control. Stop listening to other people and watch and evaluate the game (properly) fuh yuh self. MOM my ass. Who cares?!
Why are you even responding; you know that he socially inept and is a troll who regurgitates everything he reads and hears in an effort to give the impression he knows what he is talking about/intelligent.
Ah have a few minutes where ah have nutting better to do.
Ah see! ;D
Post by: Blue on November 21, 2011, 01:46:04 PM
I didnt see any positives in Chelsea's performance yesterday. Liverpool weren't even playing that well and they were still better than us. At least Arsenal had to play to the peak of their ability to beat us. Our only decent player was (as usual) Ashley Cole. And even he was at fault for the second goal.
The sad thing is that the starting XI was effectively our best XI (personally, I would definitely start Romeu instead of Mikel, but daz just me).
AVB's tactics in the first half were awful, we were playing way too deep and leaving Drogba isolated. We couldn't string three passes together in midfield (which was where we lost this game) and just spent the whole half generally being dreadful. In particular:
Terry - was terrified that he would make a mistake (and duly did). He spent half the warmup practicing ball control on his own which was very unusual.
Luiz - he wasn't actually the problem yesterday but he needs to get it though his head that he is not a CF.
Mikel - why we need him is a mystery to me. We have several players who could perform his defensive duties and still contribute going forward. Would happily see Romeu, Ramires or McEachran get a run in that position, or perhaps just play a more conventional 442 without the need for a Mikel. A more radical approach might be to play Alex/Luiz in central defence with Terry in the holding midfield role.
Ramires - had a very off day, but has actually been pretty good this season.
AVB made the right decision subbing Mikel at half time - I had predicted that, but thought he might have brought on Torres instead of Sturridge and gone for a more conventional 4-4-2 in de second half. Anyhow, whatever he did worked somewhat and I am indifferent between Torres and Sturridge anyway. But as usual we had no cutting edge, and came away with the result we deserved.
Only 2 seasons ago, we got to February before I even saw a goal conceded at Stamford Bridge (something like 12 games) and even that was only cuz $hittong Hilario was gettin a sweat. In contrast we havent kept a clean sheet at home in the Premiership this season. AVB could say what he wants but could anyone ever see this happening to a Mourinho team? :pissedoff:
Post by: Blue on November 23, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on November 25, 2011, 11:16:12 AM
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/aktvtkuga0yf70beth12vw/Show/The-Truth-Behind-Chelseas-Demise-Blame-the-Players (http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/aktvtkuga0yf70beth12vw/Show/The-Truth-Behind-Chelseas-Demise-Blame-the-Players)
The Truth Behind Chelsea's Demise: Blame the Players
Chelsea's mini crisis at the start of their new chapter under Andre Villas-Boas has come under plenty of scrutiny in recent weeks, with the young Portuguese boss certainly under immense pressure to turn things around at the club.
The Blues worst league start in the Abramovich era has been coupled by an inability to secure a place in the knockout rounds of the Champions League - a feat they have never failed to achieve. With the billionaire owner renowned for having little patience when it comes to results on the pitch, we study the claim that many have judged to be Villas-Boas' downfall, and the truth about what is going wrong on the field of play whilst everything that could possibly go wrong is off it.
High Backline and Marauding Full-Backs
While there is no doubt that the new manager has come in and encouraged his defence to push higher up the pitch, with his full-backs in particular asked to do as much offensively as defensively, the approach is far from unfamiliar. In fact most of the top sides in Europe rely heavily on their left and right backs to bomb forward and support attacks, with league leaders Man City a case in point.
While the likes of Bosingwa and Cole have been criticized for neglecting their defensive duties too often, Mancini's recruits are wreaking havoc down the flanks yet lauded for their courage and optimistic outlook in doing so. A look at the player position map from the two sides’ most recent appearances in the league (below), shows that they adopt a very similar backline.
One can instantly see from the comparison that the teams' respective full-backs forage forward in all but equal measure, while the position of John Terry (26) for Chelsea and Joleon Lescott (6) for City is identical. Perhaps the key change in attacking intent lies in the clubs' number 4s - David Luiz and Vincent Kompany.
Whilst the latter is widely considered to be one of the league's top defenders, Luiz has faced a barrage of advice from hardened pros and pundits alike. Both sides' right backs were more adventurous then their counterparts on the left, but while Kompany (4) covered for Richards' (2) runs forward, Luiz failed to do so for Ivanovic (2) in the defeat against Liverpool. The gap between the aforementioned City duo is far greater, with Kompany's more cautious approach paying dividends while Chelsea's young Brazilian has left his side exposed at times.
Though Luiz's Positioning may be a little naive, the unbelievable similarity between the backline of Chelsea and City suggests that it may not be the backline's positioning and willingness to attack that is the problem. This theory is backed up when studying Chelsea's approach in their last two away games, with their most recent defeat at the hands of Leverkusen serving to prove that this may not be the main issue in the side.
The player position map from the win over Blackburn (above, left half) shows stark contrast to the back 4 positioning in their recent Champions League disappointment (above, right half). The Blackburn half has been mirrored to indicate how much more advanced the full-backs were in their last win to the defeat in Germany on Wednesday night.
Though one could suggest that the opposition in question plays a big part in the tactics and set-up of the side, a look at the team stats from the game at Ewood Park shows that Blackburn posed more of a goal threat at times than Leverkusen. Chelsea's ability to control possession (62%) proved key to the eventual, albeit narrow, victory, while their lesser pass accuracy (82%-87%) proved a factor in Europe as they struggled to dominate proceedings.
Individual Errors the Real Issue
Though some individuals' positioning could be called into question at times, Villas-Boas' sides' tendency to commit individual errors at the back has proven to be the teams' biggest problem. The most telling stat of all shows that Chelsea have made 6 errors that have led to goals in the league in under a third of the season in the new manager's reign; a figure which already matches the amount of errors which led to goals in the entirety of last season under Ancelotti.
A clear sign that luck is not on Villas-Boas' side has seen Chelsea make 8 errors that have led to opponents’ shots in the league, with only 2 missed. Last season they conceded 21 shots in the league due to individual errors - 15 of which were missed in comparison, proving that they are getting punished for a lack of concentration at the back with devastating frequency.
Interestingly, in 15 Champions League games this term and last, Chelsea have only made 2 errors leading to shots, from which only 1 was scored. Neither of these errors have come under Villas-Boas, and while the results have been indifferent under the Portuguese in Europe, the concentration of the side has been far greater than in the league.
If one considers red cards and penalties conceded as individual errors along with gaffes that have led to chances for the opposition, it is clear that the Blues have been the architects of their own downfall on the pitch; a feature that Villas-Boas can do little about.
The aforementioned 6 errors that have led to goals have been compounded this season by 3 red cards and 2 penalties conceded. Discipline has indeed been an issue, with 33 yellow cards joining the 3 dismissals leaving the side with the worst record after 12 games in the league since Everton back in 1998/99.
A look at the results in which the side has produced at least one costly error (leading to goal, red card or penalty - right) proves that their naivety at times is their major downfall. With at least one mistake in over half of their league appearances (7 in 12), Chelsea have gone on to win just 4 times, with all 3 of their defeats coming in such games.
In comparison, in the 5 games that they have stayed focused and not had slip-ups they are yet to lose, winning 4 and giving them a points per game ratio of 2.6 in these matches compared to half that (1.3) in the games that have involved errors.
All of this goes to prove that once they remove the sloppy mishaps and mistakes, the corner could well be turned and that the criticism of the side's young manager may be a little unjust.
Post by: Blue on November 25, 2011, 01:33:35 PM
Some of it is wrong...Chelsea's full backs are only slightly more attacking than last season (Ashley Cole is unchanged, Bosingwa is a bit more attachking).
Also, within the Chelsea system, Luiz is not expected to cover the right back, that is normally Mikel's job....the analysis hasn't considered the role of the defensive midfielder.
But I agree that individual errors are the real issue. John Terry has always made individual errors, and Luiz has not learnt to cover him yet. Carvalho was a boss at that. Luiz has made a few errors himself and so have Alex and Ivanovic. Only Ashley Cole has been faultless.
There is also less defensive ability in midfield and attack. Sturridge doesn't defend well. Torres does absolutely nothing. Mata doesn't do much. Lampard is getting old.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on November 25, 2011, 01:58:38 PM
Nice analysis.
Some of it is wrong...Chelsea's full backs are only slightly more attacking than last season (Ashley Cole is unchanged, Bosingwa is a bit more attachking).
Also, within the Chelsea system, Luiz is not expected to cover the right back, that is normally Mikel's job....the analysis hasn't considered the role of the defensive midfielder.
But I agree that individual errors are the real issue. John Terry has always made individual errors, and Luiz has not learnt to cover him yet. Carvalho was a boss at that. Luiz has made a few errors himself and so have Alex and Ivanovic. Only Ashley Cole has been faultless.
There is also less defensive ability in midfield and attack. Sturridge doesn't defend well. Torres does absolutely nothing. Mata doesn't do much. Lampard is getting old.
Think they missing Essien?
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2011, 02:07:33 PM
Nice analysis.
Some of it is wrong...Chelsea's full backs are only slightly more attacking than last season (Ashley Cole is unchanged, Bosingwa is a bit more attachking).
Also, within the Chelsea system, Luiz is not expected to cover the right back, that is normally Mikel's job....the analysis hasn't considered the role of the defensive midfielder.
But I agree that individual errors are the real issue. John Terry has always made individual errors, and Luiz has not learnt to cover him yet. Carvalho was a boss at that. Luiz has made a few errors himself and so have Alex and Ivanovic. Only Ashley Cole has been faultless.
There is also less defensive ability in midfield and attack. Sturridge doesn't defend well. Torres does absolutely nothing. Mata doesn't do much. Lampard is getting old.
Getting breed on the fly by Johnson fuh de goal doh count? At any rate yuh might want tuh temper yuh criticism of Mikel, he's excellent... just misunderstood, apparently.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 26, 2011, 05:23:59 AM
Nice analysis.
Some of it is wrong...Chelsea's full backs are only slightly more attacking than last season (Ashley Cole is unchanged, Bosingwa is a bit more attachking).
Also, within the Chelsea system, Luiz is not expected to cover the right back, that is normally Mikel's job....the analysis hasn't considered the role of the defensive midfielder.
But I agree that individual errors are the real issue. John Terry has always made individual errors, and Luiz has not learnt to cover him yet. Carvalho was a boss at that. Luiz has made a few errors himself and so have Alex and Ivanovic. Only Ashley Cole has been faultless.
There is also less defensive ability in midfield and attack. Sturridge doesn't defend well. Torres does absolutely nothing. Mata doesn't do much. Lampard is getting old.
Getting breed on the fly by Johnson fuh de goal doh count? At any rate yuh might want tuh temper yuh criticism of Mikel, he's excellent... just misunderstood, apparently.
Nobody ever said Mikel is "excellent". NOBODY on this team is "excellent" but he's not the shithong that fags like you and people like Ryan are making him out to be.......and Ryan, it is nice to see you finally give Lampard a passing mention as far as your criticism is concerned. Against liverpool, he needlessly (poor ball control, bad passes, under little or no pressure) gave away the ball 3 times in the first half and had little to no contribution going forward in the second. He is getting old and rapidly getting slower. He's hardly scoring any of his goals from beyond the penalty spot, something he was doing with regularity under Mourinho. Time for him to make way to someone else.
Post by: elan on November 26, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
Post by: Blue on November 26, 2011, 11:57:43 AM
Otherwise, the 3-0 was pretty uneventful. We did what was expected, without ever really performing that well. If that had been Man City we we were up against they would have killed us.
Post by: Bitter on December 03, 2011, 07:03:53 AM
Post by: Bitter on December 03, 2011, 07:12:24 AM
Ok, it was a weak penalty call, but still...
Post by: Observer on December 03, 2011, 08:17:52 AM
Ramirez has become the engine room, good performance box to box
Drogba! Pick him, stick with him he will produce
Mata sweet like jubjub
Ivanovic is a beast, not built like a FB, but good quality defender & gets forward well.
Not sure why NC took off Ben Afar, thought he would find more space once the game went on.
Ba is a handful, looks to be quite a player
Krul what can one say. he is the reason NC are staying in games and takes away from the scrutiny of NC's poor defending
Post by: giggsy11 on December 03, 2011, 08:31:15 AM
Obertan is a waste of space-is like he doh know what to do with the ball and hwen he does something is usually sh!te!
Post by: elan on December 03, 2011, 08:39:13 AM
Post by: elan on December 03, 2011, 08:41:05 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on December 03, 2011, 08:43:15 AM
Torres is really frustrating. 1v1 and he cannot take advantage :cursing: this has nothing to do with coaching or team shape. Break away and no technique to get separation, no sophistication, no determination to score a goal. This is all of his making. He is satisfied to pass the ball when he is in a threatening position. :frustrated:
Torres needs tuh buss it back tuh Spain! Liverstool used him up and he get a nice pay day commin tuh all yuh! Time tuh play Drogba lite!
Post by: Bitter on December 03, 2011, 08:45:06 AM
Cech looking like he ent care, de ball pass? no sweat, the post go stop it.
I'm surprised how in all the analysis of Chelsea's problems, nobody mentions Cech's issues.
Post by: lefty on December 03, 2011, 10:36:34 AM
Post by: Bakes on December 03, 2011, 10:50:39 AM
Made that way too hard. But still 3-0 is 3-0.
Cech looking like he ent care, de ball pass? no sweat, the post go stop it.
I'm surprised how in all the analysis of Chelsea's problems, nobody mentions Cech's issues.
What issues? Cech is ah boss. He just misunderstood.
David Luiz is an exciting player... for all the wrong reasons. How that wasn't a straight red is beyond me. Observer correct about Ba, I didn't think he'd do anything for NC honestly, but I know he was decent when he poison 'Pool last year with a brace when we played West Ham... his first two PL goals after transferring in. Disagree on NC defending though, I've seen a handful of their games now and they are really tough to break down. The Taylor brothers are quietly among the better central defenders you'll find in the league.
Post by: dinho on December 03, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
I will say that game away to a very good Newcastle game was the most crucial game to date, especially with an even bigger game away to Valencia to come in midweek. A loss or even a draw here could have determined the season.
Torres just can't catch himself. All alone on a break away, the old Torres would have finished that with aplomb. This Torres have the ball getting caught between his feet, letting the defence catch up and have to squeeze out a pass back to the only man in the team in worse form (Kalou) to kick straight to the keeper and get a goal of the deflection.
As for Newcastle, harsh scoreline but this team is impressive. Ba is seriously a monster. Won everything in the air and was controlling with his back to goal causing all kinds of problems. I used to follow him when he was scoring goals week in week out at Hoffenheim and thought he would do well in the EPL, so was real surprised when teams were unwilling to take the chance on him. And to think Newcastle get that for free.
Post by: Bitter on December 03, 2011, 01:29:49 PM
Made that way too hard. But still 3-0 is 3-0.
Cech looking like he ent care, de ball pass? no sweat, the post go stop it.
I'm surprised how in all the analysis of Chelsea's problems, nobody mentions Cech's issues.
What issues? Cech is ah boss. He just misunderstood.
Sorry,
I meant that no one mentions how Cech's supreme positioning and confidence allows him to let those balls pass knowing that they will hit the post. And even when they go in near post, is really an issue with the groundskeeping staff.
Post by: Bakes on December 03, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Sorry,
I meant that no one mentions how Cech's supreme positioning and confidence allows him to let those balls pass knowing that they will hit the post. And even when they go in near post, is really an issue with the groundskeeping staff.
His positional sense is amazing, to know the exact alignment of the uprights behind him, down to the millimeter. His keen understanding of the defensive responsibilities of each blade of grass in slowing the progress of the ball towards his goal mouth is beyond par.
Post by: fari on December 03, 2011, 05:04:39 PM
What i liked about this game is, this was the most amount of fight i see from this side from the season.. Was good to see men like Mata and Sturridge tracking back and willing to put in the tackle.
I will say that game away to a very good Newcastle game was the most crucial game to date, especially with an even bigger game away to Valencia to come in midweek. A loss or even a draw here could have determined the season.
Torres just can't catch himself. All alone on a break away, the old Torres would have finished that with aplomb. This Torres have the ball getting caught between his feet, letting the defence catch up and have to squeeze out a pass back to the only man in the team in worse form (Kalou) to kick straight to the keeper and get a goal of the deflection.
As for Newcastle, harsh scoreline but this team is impressive. Ba is seriously a monster. Won everything in the air and was controlling with his back to goal causing all kinds of problems. I used to follow him when he was scoring goals week in week out at Hoffenheim and thought he would do well in the EPL, so was real surprised when teams were unwilling to take the chance on him. And to think Newcastle get that for free.
the man fail medical...what u want men to do. but on the real tho i have in meh fs i was begging him to put one in the onion bag today.
Post by: Bitter on December 03, 2011, 05:58:10 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/soccer/wires/12/03/2080.ap.soc.chelsea.transfer.requests.1st.ld.writethru.0168/index.html
LONDON (AP) -Former France striker Nicolas Anelka and Brazil defender Alex have had transfer requests accepted by Chelsea and will be free to leave the English Premier League club in January.
Both players have struggled for first-team action this season, and weren't named in Chelsea's squad for the league win over Newcastle on Saturday.
"Their professionalism and integrity is never in question but on recent results and form ... we have decided to assign different training times for them,'' Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas said.
"The transfer requests were accepted but it doesn't mean it will happen, and if it doesn't happen they will return to full training.''
Anelka, who joined Chelsea in 2008 from Bolton, has been marginalized at the London club following the signing last season of Spain striker Fernando Torres and the development of young England forward Daniel Sturridge.
Alex's opportunities at Chelsea have been limited following the arrival of compatriot David Luiz in last season's January transfer window.
Post by: Bakes on December 03, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
"Their professionalism and integrity is never in question but on recent results and form ... we have decided to assign different training times for them,'' Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas said.
Damn... so they wasn't even training with the first team.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 03, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
Sorry,
I meant that no one mentions how Cech's supreme positioning and confidence allows him to let those balls pass knowing that they will hit the post. And even when they go in near post, is really an issue with the groundskeeping staff.
His positional sense is amazing, to know the exact alignment of the uprights behind him, down to the millimeter. His keen understanding of the defensive responsibilities of each blade of grass in slowing the progress of the ball towards his goal mouth is beyond par.
Bitter, you acting like GK's does NEVER get beaten at their near post. It happens. Petr cech is STILL one of the best GK's in the EPL and if he's having a rough few games (as is the ENTIRE Chelsea team) as per the hallowed opinion of yourself and this little bake and shark fag that have his mouth wrapped so tightly around your balls, that doesn't change anything. Cech still had to pull off a few fine saves today in order to preserve a clean sheet. Does that not tell you of his ability?
Post by: Bitter on December 04, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
Sorry,
I meant that no one mentions how Cech's supreme positioning and confidence allows him to let those balls pass knowing that they will hit the post. And even when they go in near post, is really an issue with the groundskeeping staff.
His positional sense is amazing, to know the exact alignment of the uprights behind him, down to the millimeter. His keen understanding of the defensive responsibilities of each blade of grass in slowing the progress of the ball towards his goal mouth is beyond par.
Bitter, you acting like GK's does NEVER get beaten at their near post. It happens. Petr cech is STILL one of the best GK's in the EPL and if he's having a rough few games (as is the ENTIRE Chelsea team) as per the hallowed opinion of yourself and this little bake and shark fag that have his mouth wrapped so tightly around your balls, that doesn't change anything. Cech still had to pull off a few fine saves today in order to preserve a clean sheet. Does that not tell you of his ability?
My original comment was that nobody mentions Cech's errors in goal. The amount of ink devoted to Chelsea's woes, tends to skip Cech and some of his questionable decisions. (His "rough few games" extend into last season btw). To me his body language points toward a more laissez faire attitude towards the whole thing. Maybe it was just easier to stay back there and pull off spectacular saves when the defense was the best in the league. Maybe the whole high-line thing is not comfortable for him. But if a man like Almunia, or Heurelho Gomes do them thing, there would be an inquest and calls for beheading.
The other comments was just kicks. You need to lighten up a bit. The ball hit the frame a few times and Cech didn't have much influence on the outcome in those instances. He didn't have a reaction though, which led to the comments between Bake and Shark and myself.
Post by: JDB on December 06, 2011, 01:53:14 PM
I think Villas Boas pick his best line-up but that means Lampard is on the bench in a must-win CL league game. Drogba admit that they had (have) problems in the camp and Villas Boas make the odd move of announcing that Anelka and Alex training solo. Clearly the old guard not happy but at least he have Drogba onside by playing him (wisely) in front of Torres
He have a long road to hoe because even if he win this he have to deal with the fact that his best side does not contain Lampard. If he lose it will be a stick for Terry to beat him with.
I know United in a similar situation tomorrow so I not taking any delight in Chelsea situation but if United go out nobody talking about sacking the manager. I just really interested to see how this one plays out.
Post by: lefty on December 06, 2011, 03:48:20 PM
Post by: Daft Trini on December 06, 2011, 04:03:35 PM
drogba boy class is class
has been my favorite EPL striker for some years now...
Post by: Blue on December 06, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
Didier Drogba is a legend. He was utterly unstoppable tonight, he was a beast. I still cannot understand how anyone could ever think that Torres could come close to that standard. On his day Drogba is still one of the world's best strikers. The Valencia defenders were just bouncing off him. 2 goals and 1 excellent assist in a vintage Drogba performance of brute strength and exquiste control. 10 out of 10. He got an incredible standing ovation when he was subbed, the entire stadium was on their feet. Loved how he dedicated his opening goal celebration to Anelka, a fitting tribute.
Tactically, we just looked so much better tonight. There were spells when we were playing a brand of fluid, one touch football that I haven't seen us play for well over a year. Mata and Sturridge (particularly Sturridge) defended superbly, they were both tracking Valencia full backs and did an awesome job. And of course they were both excellent going forward. I have never been a Sturridge fan but he is gradually becoming a real part of this team...his speed has become a massive weapon for him in recent games, where he knocks the ball miles in front of him and then takes on the defence...hardly anyone can match him for pace. And Mata once again bossed the attack, with some lethal passing that led to both of Drogba's goals.
Ramires was great yet again, pressing high up the pitch and winning the ball time and time again. Earned his goal doing what he does best, hounding the defence into a mistake.
Romeu has now established himself in the side and was great once again, he is so assured in possession and can pick out a pass better than virtually anyone else in the side.
Fernando who? John Obi who? I'm delighted to see that AVB has realised that his first XI should include neither of these players.
Best game I've been to this season.
Post by: lefty on December 06, 2011, 05:02:22 PM
drogba boy class is class
has been my favorite EPL striker for some years now...
mine too
Post by: dinho on December 06, 2011, 05:23:49 PM
The intent and purpose from the Newcastle game was replicated here. I don't want to goat mouth it but I feeling like this team has turned a corner. With more wins will come confidence, but players are settling into their roles well.
Big call by AVB to drop Lampard in a crucial game like this. The team is much more mobile without him in the middle and moves the ball much faster. Those one touch interchanges just don't happen when he is in the middle, he always has to collect, turn, look up for passing options (that have disappeared by then) then make the simple lateral pass allowing the opposing defence to get back into shape.
Mata's game is taking on a new dimension, he really coming into his own in the English game much like David Silva did at City. He is the creative force but he is also understanding his defensive responsibility which is good. Sturridge on the right too, if he can be a little more clinical and a little less greedy he will be a force.
And i guess everything has already been said about Drogba. He look alot like his old self today, powerful and unplayable in the air even though he has lost a yard of pace. I thought in the first 20 mins of the second half he started to look tired, but then he turned it on and could have had a hattrick. This looking like his last hurrah so lewwe enjoy every last minute of it.
Bring on City, lewee show dem we properly back in business.
Post by: Blue on December 06, 2011, 05:34:31 PM
Big call by AVB to drop Lampard in a crucial game like this.
Big call, but I think Lampard will still start ahead of Meireles in most games. First and foremost, this game called for a clean sheet and Lampard offers less defensively than Meireles. Lampard is a goalscorer though, so I guess we'll see what AVB values more.
I think Lampard is more than happy to play one-touch ball, but he didnt really have noone to combine with last season. The addition of Romeu and Mata to the midfield gives us a core of gifted passers who are willing to show for the ball and play a fluid passing game (in contrast to Mikel, who was useless).
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 06, 2011, 06:57:29 PM
on to city
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 07, 2011, 03:43:39 AM
Sorry,
I meant that no one mentions how Cech's supreme positioning and confidence allows him to let those balls pass knowing that they will hit the post. And even when they go in near post, is really an issue with the groundskeeping staff.
His positional sense is amazing, to know the exact alignment of the uprights behind him, down to the millimeter. His keen understanding of the defensive responsibilities of each blade of grass in slowing the progress of the ball towards his goal mouth is beyond par.
Bitter, you acting like GK's does NEVER get beaten at their near post. It happens. Petr cech is STILL one of the best GK's in the EPL and if he's having a rough few games (as is the ENTIRE Chelsea team) as per the hallowed opinion of yourself and this little bake and shark fag that have his mouth wrapped so tightly around your balls, that doesn't change anything. Cech still had to pull off a few fine saves today in order to preserve a clean sheet. Does that not tell you of his ability?
My original comment was that nobody mentions Cech's errors in goal. The amount of ink devoted to Chelsea's woes, tends to skip Cech and some of his questionable decisions. (His "rough few games" extend into last season btw). To me his body language points toward a more laissez faire attitude towards the whole thing. Maybe it was just easier to stay back there and pull off spectacular saves when the defense was the best in the league. Maybe the whole high-line thing is not comfortable for him. But if a man like Almunia, or Heurelho Gomes do them thing, there would be an inquest and calls for beheading.
The other comments was just kicks. You need to lighten up a bit. The ball hit the frame a few times and Cech didn't have much influence on the outcome in those instances. He didn't have a reaction though, which led to the comments between Bake and Shark and myself.
Nah, I didn't need to "lighten up" not one bit more than I already am, jed. Certain people will never get any respect from me, is all that is. Anyway, one of the things I notice is that people tend not to take a total view of things. Last year when Chelsea started off hot and went into a disastrous tailspin, Petr Cech was savin' we ass time after time, when our forwards wasn't scoring and our midfield was not possessing and transitioning the ball to required effectiveness. GK's are going to make errors just like every body else, but you have to quantify their pros against their cons and Petr Cech, over his entire career, much less his time at Chelsea, has more than proven his worth, time and time and time again. So, his "rough few games" to me, refer to games where he actually make terrible errors of judgement, handling, distribution. etc, like the goal he let in against Bayer Leverkusen in the CL a couple weeks ago, or the one that he allowed past him at the hands of Theo Walcott.....Y'all men does forget that as equally well trained as a man like Cech is, so are his opponents. GK's are going to get beaten by well-taken shots from time to time and sometimes it's y'all armchair critics that need to lighten up and be more (honestly) objective. It's not like Cech lettin' feeble shots roll under him or between his legs or them kinda primary school things. (see Frank Lampard's speculative effort give Gomes one of his many hairy moments) and comparing Cech to Almunia is like comparing Pele to andy carroll. Almunia's hairy moments far outnumbered his graceful ones, hence the reason he was so vilified....and (rightfully) run out of town. Gomes, I felt, had a hard time adjusting to the pace and physicality of the English game and was (a little harshly) run out of town.....IMHO
the asshole that you were trading banter with, always comes on here to "trow corn" as he so effeminately likes to do, when liverpool have their own fair share of hairy moments to expect out of pepe reina. His gaffe against Fulham wasn't his only one this season.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 07, 2011, 03:58:52 AM
Excellent performance by Chelsea.
The intent and purpose from the Newcastle game was replicated here. I don't want to goat mouth it but I feeling like this team has turned a corner. With more wins will come confidence, but players are settling into their roles well.
Big call by AVB to drop Lampard in a crucial game like this. The team is much more mobile without him in the middle and moves the ball much faster. Those one touch interchanges just don't happen when he is in the middle, he always has to collect, turn, look up for passing options (that have disappeared by then) then make the simple lateral pass allowing the opposing defence to get back into shape.
Mata's game is taking on a new dimension, he really coming into his own in the English game much like David Silva did at City. He is the creative force but he is also understanding his defensive responsibility which is good. Sturridge on the right too, if he can be a little more clinical and a little less greedy he will be a force.
And i guess everything has already been said about Drogba. He look alot like his old self today, powerful and unplayable in the air even though he has lost a yard of pace. I thought in the first 20 mins of the second half he started to look tired, but then he turned it on and could have had a hattrick. This looking like his last hurrah so lewwe enjoy every last minute of it.
Bring on City, lewee show dem we properly back in business.
Well said. This was Chelsea's best game of the season. We are a team that needs ALL players playing their roles to optimum effectiveness in order to garner expected success and that is exactly what happend yesterday. Still made some errors, but the early scoring and rejuvenated attitude negated them. AVB has had to shuffle the team around due to the compacted schedule over the past coule weeks but I hope what I'm seeing is a sign of things to come. It was good to see John Obi Mikel get to play a little more forward of the defensive role than he's been pigeon-holed into. He need o re-familiarize himself with being an attacking mid. Lampard, for all the love I have for him, is no longer bringing the value that he did 5 & 6 years ago, plain and simple. His best days are behind him.
Drogba was his optimum, beastly BEST yesterday.....What seems to be a swan song campaign.....I will miss the hell outta him when he does part ways with the team but I really hope it ain't in January as the rumours have it. While I like Sturridge's hunger, I do agree that he does have to be just a tad bit.........less greedy.
Post by: JDB on December 07, 2011, 06:01:43 AM
Lampard is a good player but people get fooled by his goals. His defensive capabilities are vastly over-rated and he is not as versatile as Meireles. He also does not move the ball as well. Mata playing nominally on the left but you want him to have license to move about the pitch. Meireles is a much better player at knowing how to fill the gaps, and then using the ball. He wouldn’t be suited to Lampard old role of running into the box at will but he is a much better role player.
Drogba is as Drogba was, unstoppable. Have to give Villas Boas credit for quietly ending the debate on the Torres role in the squad.
Post by: JDB on December 07, 2011, 06:17:12 AM
Nah, I didn't need to "lighten up" not one bit more than I already am, jed. Certain people will never get any respect from me, is all that is. Anyway, one of the things I notice is that people tend not to take a total view of things. Last year when Chelsea started off hot and went into a disastrous tailspin, Petr Cech was savin' we ass time after time, when our forwards wasn't scoring and our midfield was not possessing and transitioning the ball to required effectiveness. GK's are going to make errors just like every body else, but you have to quantify their pros against their cons and Petr Cech, over his entire career, much less his time at Chelsea, has more than proven his worth, time and time and time again. So, his "rough few games" to me, refer to games where he actually make terrible errors of judgement, handling, distribution. etc, like the goal he let in against Bayer Leverkusen in the CL a couple weeks ago, or the one that he allowed past him at the hands of Theo Walcott.....Y'all men does forget that as equally well trained as a man like Cech is, so are his opponents. GK's are going to get beaten by well-taken shots from time to time and sometimes it's y'all armchair critics that need to lighten up and be more (honestly) objective. It's not like Cech lettin' feeble shots roll under him or between his legs or them kinda primary school things. (see Frank Lampard's speculative effort give Gomes one of his many hairy moments) and comparing Cech to Almunia is like comparing Pele to andy carroll. Almunia's hairy moments far outnumbered his graceful ones, hence the reason he was so vilified....and (rightfully) run out of town. Gomes, I felt, had a hard time adjusting to the pace and physicality of the English game and was (a little harshly) run out of town.....IMHO
the asshole that you were trading banter with, always comes on here to "trow corn" as he so effeminately likes to do, when liverpool have their own fair share of hairy moments to expect out of pepe reina. His gaffe against Fulham wasn't his only one this season.
I think the goalkeeper thing is a real joke sometimes. All goalkeepers make mistakes but things like “coulda get to that” , “didn’t get down in time” , “should have come for that cross” are very subjective. I have a personal beef with the bluster that surrounded De Gea based on two shots that he arguably could have done better on, not fumbles.
But even fumbles happen and the difference between “keeper at fault for a goal” or “shaky moment” is down to where the ball fall.
Take Al Habsi…it have some games where he playing out of his skin and he is a good keeper but he has also had some big mistakes. Just this season I see Reina drop a ball at Adebayor feet for a goal, make a mess for Spain on the England goal and now this one against Fulham. Also I see him run out for a ball against Norwich that he never was going to get and Liverpool drop two points, but again that happens all the time and he coulda stay back and get string up same way. Now I not too concerned with beating down a next team keeper but people do not put keepers’ performances in proper context because you could rip any keeper apart on most goals.
I agree that Cech was excellent last season. Think he was Chelsea’s best player. Don’t think his perfoamances are as good this season though.
The keepers for me this season are Friedel, Hart and Krul. With Friedel being one of the best buys of the season. Talk about an underrated player. Sczezny and De gea well competent and steady right now which is all yuh need from them right now.
Post by: Bitter on December 07, 2011, 06:49:38 AM
Nah, I didn't need to "lighten up" not one bit more than I already am, jed.
Allyuh still sensitive, but that is ok. Drogba was part of the problem until yesterday. :)
Don’t think his perfoamances are as good this season though.
The keepers for me this season are Friedel, Hart and Krul. With Friedel being one of the best buys of the season. Talk about an underrated player. Sczezny and De gea well competent and steady right now which is all yuh need from them right now.
You ent rate Vorm as well?
Post by: dinho on December 07, 2011, 07:40:11 AM
I think the goalkeeper thing is a real joke sometimes. All goalkeepers make mistakes but things like “coulda get to that” , “didn’t get down in time” , “should have come for that cross” are very subjective. I have a personal beef with the bluster that surrounded De Gea based on two shots that he arguably could have done better on, not fumbles.
But even fumbles happen and the difference between “keeper at fault for a goal” or “shaky moment” is down to where the ball fall.
Take Al Habsi…it have some games where he playing out of his skin and he is a good keeper but he has also had some big mistakes. Just this season I see Reina drop a ball at Adebayor feet for a goal, make a mess for Spain on the England goal and now this one against Fulham. Also I see him run out for a ball against Norwich that he never was going to get and Liverpool drop two points, but again that happens all the time and he coulda stay back and get string up same way. Now I not too concerned with beating down a next team keeper but people do not put keepers’ performances in proper context because you could rip any keeper apart on most goals.
I agree that Cech was excellent last season. Think he was Chelsea’s best player. Don’t think his perfoamances are as good this season though.
The keepers for me this season are Friedel, Hart and Krul. With Friedel being one of the best buys of the season. Talk about an underrated player. Sczezny and De gea well competent and steady right now which is all yuh need from them right now.
Good post.
This was sort of what I was alluding to in the Liverpool thread where i think the whole Reina versus Cech debate started. Agreed that Cech has not been at his best this year, although my own personal opinion is that is more symptomatic of the defence as a whole in front of him this year not being up to scratch.
But as for goalkeeping errors, i totally agree with how you classify them as there is a distinct difference. Probably over 90% of Cech's errors have mostly been errors in positioning (like conceding goals at the near post) and errors in judgement (like not commanding certain situations). The goals he gave up in the Arsenal game were a prime example. However i don't think anyone can fault Cech for mishandling, fumbling or messing up on textbook saves. Reina on the other hand prone to those kind of gaffes, dropping crosses, occasional fumbles, flapping etc.
The casual watcher might say well an error is an error but there is a big difference in my opinion. To put it simply, from the perspective of the teammates a near post goal or bad positioning is "wham hoss yuh shoulda save that!" while a fumble or gaffe is, "wha de m&%$* c*#@ is that hoss?!". I know i woulda get cuss for that piece of jokiness Reina do against Fulham but not for what Cech did.
That is why i say Van Der Sar was so good last year and shouldve been Man United's player of the season. I don't think there was a goal that went in that you could really say he should have done better with, in fact when VDS get bore yuh know is a correct bore. You mention Al Habsi, and the miracle saves are all well and good but the most important barometer for a keeper is consistency, and when a keeper is dependable enough to make every single textbook saves it translates to the defense as a whole. Thats why them old men keepers have plenty value.
Krul is my keeper of the season so far by the way. Vorm, De Gea and Hart doing well too.
Post by: Bitter on December 07, 2011, 07:50:03 AM
To put it simply, from the perspective of the teammates a near post goal or bad positioning is "wham hoss yuh shoulda save that!" while a fumble or gaffe is, "wha de m&%$* c*#@ is that hoss?!".
This is the best goalkeeping analysis I have ever seen. Describes it perfectly.
You should send an email to the networks asking them to include your new stat: The Cuss Out Quotient(COQ) is a measure of goalkeeper activity.
The scale ranges from "wha de m&%$* c*#@ is that hoss?!" on the low side to "Boss save keep!" and "Ooh gooooooddd!!!!! YOU SEE DAT??!!" at the top of the scale.
I think is a winner. ;D
Post by: JDB on December 07, 2011, 09:16:32 AM
You ent rate Vorm as well?
I real impressed with Vorm but all I see is highlights which where he obvioulsy flying all over the place. I also find it hard to be objective because he is a boss keeper in fantasy league. Similarly I probably not giving De Gea his full due because I recognize my bias.
That is why i say Van Der Sar was so good last year and shouldve been Man United's player of the season. I don't think there was a goal that went in that you could really say he should have done better with, in fact when VDS get bore yuh know is a correct bore. You mention Al Habsi, and the miracle saves are all well and good but the most important barometer for a keeper is consistency, and when a keeper is dependable enough to make every single textbook saves it translates to the defense as a whole. Thats why them old men keepers have plenty value.
I real impressed with Vorm but all I see is highlights which where he obvioulsy flying all over the place. I also find it hard to be objective because he is a boss keeper in fantasy league. Similarly I probably not giving De Gea his full due because I recognize my bias.
I should add that there are bad keepers out there. Keepers who making errors so frequently that they clearly don't have the confidence or the skills. Almunia and Fabianski come to mind but them men are not the kind of players we talking about here.
Post by: Blue on December 07, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
I know United in a similar situation tomorrow so I not taking any delight in Chelsea situation but if United go out nobody talking about sacking the manager. I just really interested to see how this one plays out.
It played out great :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on December 07, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16076108.stm
Nicolas Anelka will decide whether to join Shanghai Shenhua on a three-year deal by the start of next week.
The Chelsea striker's camp is in talks with the Chinese Super League club, who are expected to bring former France midfielder Jean Tigana in as manager.
Neither club has revealed details about the transfer fee but discussions taking place between the player and the club include details on image rights.
Anelka was Avram Grant's first signing at Stamford Bridge in January 2008.
The French striker, 32, joined in a £15m switch and has scored 59 goals in 185 appearances for the London club.
But he has fallen out of the first-team picture having scored only once in 15 games this season, with manager Andre Villas-Boas favouring Didier Drogba, Daniel Sturridge and Fernando Torres.
Anelka and Chelsea team-mate Alex were told by Villas-Boas last week that they will no longer train with the first-team squad after handing in transfer requests.
The striker would be a free agent next summer, allowing him to sign a pre-contract agreement with a club from January.
Shanghai Shenhua club chairman Zhu Jun is quoted in Shanghai Daily, saying: "We started to talk about every detail from the first minute of the negotiations. The whole contract is made up of details. It's comprehensive and complicated, involving the player's image and the commercial cooperation."
Media officer Ma Yue has confirmed: "There'll be news very soon. In five days, we'll definitely have news on whether it is yes or no."
Regarding the length of deal, Ma added: "In England or other European countries, his age might be considered quite advanced. But the football level is not as high here. We don't think it's any problem for him to play for another three years."
He also told Shanghai Daily that the club has held "deep talks" with Anelka's agent, his brother Claude.
According to Ma, the arrival of Tigana could be a factor in whether Anelka agrees terms. Tigana is expected in Shanghai next week and is planning to bring his own assistants.
The Chinese club was previously called Shanghai Football Club but, in 1993, was re-organised and became a professional football Club. Since then, they have won two titles but finished 11th out of 16 teams last season.
In May, Chelsea hired the agency ECN Management to market high-profile players in China and raise their global profile.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 07, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 08, 2011, 04:03:28 AM
I think the goalkeeper thing is a real joke sometimes. All goalkeepers make mistakes but things like “coulda get to that” , “didn’t get down in time” , “should have come for that cross” are very subjective. I have a personal beef with the bluster that surrounded De Gea based on two shots that he arguably could have done better on, not fumbles.
So well said....and 99% of the times, the people making these judgements are people that have absolutely NO CLUE about the position to understand the whys and why nots of a GK's judgment. Same sort of judgment that propel people to utter the famous catch phrase "anything in the 6-yard box is the 'keeper own" when nothing could be further from the truth. I saw your post about the De Gea thing and couldn't agree with you more.....didn't have the time to respond to it......and that other jackass that responded to it with his usual :bs:.
But even fumbles happen and the difference between “keeper at fault for a goal” or “shaky moment” is down to where the ball fall.
Take Al Habsi…it have some games where he playing out of his skin and he is a good keeper but he has also had some big mistakes. Just this season I see Reina drop a ball at Adebayor feet for a goal, make a mess for Spain on the England goal and now this one against Fulham. Also I see him run out for a ball against Norwich that he never was going to get and Liverpool drop two points, but again that happens all the time and he coulda stay back and get string up same way. Now I not too concerned with beating down a next team keeper but people do not put keepers’ performances in proper context because you could rip any keeper apart on most goals.
I agree that Cech was excellent last season. Think he was Chelsea’s best player. Don’t think his perfoamances are as good this season though.
I agree that he has had his fair share of misjudgments this season.....AND last....AND the season before, etc...but this season is magnified and compounded by the entire team's poor play. As often as the team has left him and the defense exposed, he's going to naturally have his moments of poor jusdment himself, especially when some of the so called "errors" that these expert jackasses talkin' 'bout revolve around his "positioning". He was well-positioned for every one of the goals he conceded against arsenal. he simply didn't make the saves, with the Theo Walcott one being the one I find he "shoulda" made easily, especially for a man of his expectations. The pace and swerve on that van Persies coffin-sealer was beating any 'keeper in any league.....especially pepe reina. funny though, that you DO mention reina and his crosses....some time ago I tried explaining to that liverpool piss-drinker that there is a huge difference between a GK "flapping at a cross" and being beaten to one by and opponent but of course, I was the one that didn't know what I was talkin' 'bout. ::) I hope he gets it now that reina has provided us with way more flapping demonstrations than is acceptable for a man of his "pedigree"
The keepers for me this season are Friedel, Hart and Krul. With Friedel being one of the best buys of the season. Talk about an underrated player. Sczezny and De gea well competent and steady right now which is all yuh need from them right now.
Hart has more than proven his woth and he's the best and most consistent thing England has had in a while. He is in great form and I think he is proving to be a world class 'keeper.....cannot say enough about Brad Friedel. for a man of his size, height and now, age, it is unbelievable what he is doing between the posts.....his ability to get down and get at them low, corner shots is phenomenal! Fully agree with you on Krul, De Gea and Scezney. I rel like Scezney and (begrudgingly) ah hadda mention Vorm as well.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 08, 2011, 04:08:46 AM
Nah, I didn't need to "lighten up" not one bit more than I already am, jed.
Allyuh still sensitive, but that is ok. Drogba was part of the problem until yesterday. :)
Yes he was/is....ever since last season when people was jumpin' on Ramires and Mikel back, I was pointing out that Drogba was not being the Drogba we needed him to be...he and all the players that weren't carrying their share of the load.Don’t think his perfoamances are as good this season though.see above....
Post by: Blue on December 08, 2011, 05:01:53 PM
Allyuh still sensitive, but that is ok. Drogba was part of the problem until yesterday. :)
Yes he was/is....ever since last season when people was jumpin' on Ramires and Mikel back, I was pointing out that Drogba was not being the Drogba we needed him to be...he and all the players that weren't carrying their share of the load.
I agree Drogba was not at his best last season...but carrying a broken arm, a hernia and malaria would slow most of us down....people sayin that this spell is a last hoorah for Drogba but the man is simply gettin back to full fitness..he will be f**kin up defenders for at least another couple of seasons.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 09, 2011, 04:08:21 AM
Allyuh still sensitive, but that is ok. Drogba was part of the problem until yesterday. :)
Yes he was/is....ever since last season when people was jumpin' on Ramires and Mikel back, I was pointing out that Drogba was not being the Drogba we needed him to be...he and all the players that weren't carrying their share of the load.
I agree Drogba was not at his best last season...but carrying a broken arm, a hernia and malaria would slow most of us down....
Yeah and dize why I worded it the way I did and din't say he was playin' shit. But him not being his usual self did hurt us last season but he could always get a bly in my book because of all d shit he has done for Chelsea fans and all the shit he took from the media, opposing fans, players (like jonny evans) and referees while doing it.
people sayin that this spell is a last hoorah for Drogba but the man is simply gettin back to full fitness..he will be f**kin up defenders for at least another couple of seasons.
I doh want to see him leave just yet at all, but I think Chelsea and AVB already starting to prepare for his departure in January.....but we've seen that before, too.......I really hope he stays a little while longer so he and Sturridge could do some serious damage up front the rest of this season.
Post by: JDB on December 09, 2011, 11:03:10 AM
Plus he getting to wine on Torres head for a next half a season. He know if he perform out of his skin he might force a next two years out of the club or leave them wanting more.
Yuh never know he might play good enough to get a move to United in June.
Post by: doublet750 on December 09, 2011, 04:45:33 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 09, 2011, 04:59:38 PM
fellas lets remeber lampard though not the "CREATIVE LINK" that we craved to see @ chelsea was never a player played for his defensive duties......which is y when he is in the team we ALWAYS had two HARD MEN with him in the middle....in a 4 3 3 for any coach the ideal solution is to have 6 On DEF and 4 in Attack guaranteed cover and numbers going forward....lampard would become that 4th attacker with his late runs and depending on which side the ball came from the other side would ensure there is two in the box ...do remember tho ths was when chelsea were a POWERFUL side nothing more nothing less...there was no elegance in the buildup play just constructive and HARD HITTING .....the sad part is to evolve to ATTRACTIVE football you have to minimise the use of the power and utilise the speed of pass and frankly as a couple of u guys said before Mireless is more adept in his speed of pass .dont discredit lamps eye for a pass tho the face is that 1-2 quik passing technique that mireless displayed with romeu and mata is INVALUABLE to ATTRACTIVE FOOTBALL and something that LAMPS lacks
I fully agree and couldn't have said it better myself. Yes, sometimes Lampard does make some nice passes, but he does struggle with the quick passing from time to time and he is a bit more methoodical and predictable with his passing than where I see AVB wants to take this team. I've said it before that the style of play in english football is slowly evolving and it simply calls for more skill, speed and artistry in midfield and that is not Lampard's game.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 01:47:02 AM
Can't see Drogba leaving in January TBH. Chelsea not getting any big money fopr aman with 6 months left and Drogba getting more money if he sign as a feee agent in Summer.
Plus he getting to wine on Torres head for a next half a season. He know if he perform out of his skin he might force a next two years out of the club or leave them wanting more.
Yuh never know he might play good enough to get a move to United in June.
I had read on either fox or espn, an article that suggested he was one of the aging players that AVB would be looking to let go of come Januaryand while all what yuh saying is true, I eh truss nobody, especially with an quasi-impatient owner like Abramovic. I doh think it fair to say that Drogba's best days are behind him, but, to be honest, I am noot expecting any regularity out of the performance he had against Valencia this week. (but would GLADLY take being wrong) I just want him, at this point to perform like it in the most important games.
Post by: doublet750 on December 10, 2011, 06:10:24 PM
on another note i have to admit that while i was all for the cavalier way we displayed early in the season i believe that the high line and defensive errors will cost us against city if we do that and we cannot afford to lose....we must play the same way we played against valencia strong and compact in defence with no room to get in behind and adequate cover in ALL areas otherwise Silva + Nasri and the running of Aguero WILL hurt us.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 07:14:16 PM
from whiat i gather on the Drogba situation its a odd one ....AVB facing his first bout with upstairs and Ron Gourlay...looks like gourlay tryna adapt the arsene wenger move of only 1 year deals to the over 30s ...it is a smart policy overall but there has to be an exception and drogba is that. AVB wants the club to give hima two year deal and he echoed that in a recent conference where he say he believe the club shuld reward those who display their value and said drogba showed his against valencia....HOWEVER within the same day on the rumor mill page of chelsea shed end section for fans of their website a report was released where the club stood firm on their stance of NOT offering him a two year deal ....so all drogs can do is try to keep banging them in and force their hand.
on another note i have to admit that while i was all for the cavalier way we displayed early in the season i believe that the high line and defensive errors will cost us against city if we do that and we cannot afford to lose....we must play the same way we played against valencia strong and compact in defence with no room to get in behind and adequate cover in ALL areas otherwise Silva + Nasri and the running of Aguero WILL hurt us.
Let's hope Drogba accepts a one-year deal and then play his arse off again for another one. It makes sense that he stay the rest of this season because he cyah play CL fuh nobody else.
The FIRST thing you need if you going to play a high line is ALL yuh defenders hadda have SPEED, especially your central defenders. JT is an instant handicap in that department. As the Valencia game proved, our defence ans it's made up, plays much, much better when we with more space in front of them than behind them. City would already pose a major problem if we don't play that high line.....they would rip us to shreds if we do.
Post by: JDB on December 12, 2011, 01:35:49 PM
Big call by AVB to drop Lampard in a crucial game like this.
Big call, but I think Lampard will still start ahead of Meireles in most games. First and foremost, this game called for a clean sheet and Lampard offers less defensively than Meireles. Lampard is a goalscorer though, so I guess we'll see what AVB values more.
Lampard on the bench again in the big game.
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 02:06:23 PM
Steups...
Post by: Andre DosSantos on December 12, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
Not even 5 minutes!
Steups...
well i backing man city but yea that took me by surprised by that
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
Post by: Andre DosSantos on December 12, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
Post by: Andre DosSantos on December 12, 2011, 02:34:07 PM
Post by: Daft Trini on December 12, 2011, 02:34:23 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:15:50 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:17:43 PM
Citeh down to 10 men.
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:40:06 PM
Lampard slays the dragon.
And Torres cyah get a sweat.
Post by: Daft Trini on December 12, 2011, 03:42:10 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 12, 2011, 03:44:55 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:47:10 PM
come on blues :devil: , Chelsea i meanYuh paying the rent? ;D
Post by: Daft Trini on December 12, 2011, 03:48:21 PM
come on blues :devil: , Chelsea i mean
:beermug:
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:53:28 PM
:beermug: :beermug: :cheers:
I feel Clichy do that on purpose.
Post by: D.H.W on December 12, 2011, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2011, 03:59:16 PM
Post by: dinho on December 12, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
Bench Lampard, bench Torres and no high defensive line.
The youth Romeu playing excellent ball, i don't think i see him give up possession yet. Leave him right dey!
Ramires like he finally cross the Guyanese border over the Essequibo and get his Brazilian passport stamp.
Drogba in beast mode.
It clicking.. If Chelsea beat Spurs away they right back up in the mixer.
Post by: injunchile on December 12, 2011, 04:07:11 PM
Post by: kicker on December 12, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
Ramires like he finally cross the Guyanese border over the Essequibo and get his Brazilian passport stamp.
hahahahahahaha.... Ramires been holding his own for a lil while man yuh wicked lol
Post by: elan on December 12, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Post by: kicker on December 12, 2011, 04:49:07 PM
Mata went on ah 15 minutes Rampage and diced City all over the field. Amazing.
Another reason why I's shake my head when people go off on this EPL superiority rant about how fast and physical and hard it is to adapt yadda yadda... From day one Mata landed at the Bridge and was ballin' - arguably the best player on the squad...might not even be arguable, and he wasn't even dominating la liga -just a quality player doing his thing....and he not big, or overly physical...not even fast (other than a good quick first step)...
Proper technique and overall quality can play top flight football anywhere...
Post by: DeSoWa on December 12, 2011, 05:28:34 PM
Big Up!
Mata went on ah 15 minutes Rampage and diced City all over the field. Amazing.
Another reason why I's shake my head when people go off on this EPL superiority rant about how fast and physical and hard it is to adapt yadda yadda... From day one Mata landed at the Bridge and was ballin' - arguably the best player on the squad...might not even be arguable, and he wasn't even dominating la liga -just a quality player doing his thing....and he not big, or overly physical...not even fast (other than a good quick first step)...
Proper technique and overall quality can play top flight football anywhere...
Post by: Blue on December 12, 2011, 05:43:43 PM
Men of the match = Romeu / Ramires / Mata. Those three bossed the midfield (to be honest Mata bossed pretty much the entire pitch). In particular, Romeu was on form from the first whistle and was playing some bess football even when the rest of the defence was panicking. If it wasn't for him, things could have been a lot worse at the beginning when City were pressing high up the pitch. Sturridge was decent too, although at some stage in his career it would be nice if he needed less than 10 shots to score 1 goal, he is the most wasteful striker in history.
Final whistle at the Bridge
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Post by: STEUPS!! on December 12, 2011, 06:00:57 PM
Great game tonight, everything seemed to work in our favour this evening. I thought Mancini got his tactics wrong tonight. For a start, David Silva was on the wrong wing, Ashley Cole had him on lockdown (or at least to a much greater extent than Bosingwa could have). Milner was useless. The player I was most scared of, Yaya Toure, didnt really seem to do much, not sure why he wasn't getting forward more. Had they put us under more pressure after the first goal we might have been vulnerable...
Men of the match = Romeu / Ramires / Mata. Those three bossed the midfield (to be honest Mata bossed pretty much the entire pitch). In particular, Romeu was on form from the first whistle and was playing some bess football even when the rest of the defence was panicking. If it wasn't for him, things could have been a lot worse at the beginning when City were pressing high up the pitch. Sturridge was decent too, although at some stage in his career it would be nice if he needed less than 10 shots to score 1 goal, he is the most wasteful striker in history.
Final whistle at the Bridge
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i envy u. :(
but i enjoy your match reports :beermug:
Post by: soccerman on December 12, 2011, 06:36:42 PM
I really enjoyed that "Sex" he gave I think it was Kompany on the line at full speed too! ;DYea dat one was nasty ;D
Big Up!
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2011, 09:14:42 PM
Post by: davidephraim on December 12, 2011, 09:16:41 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 02:49:35 AM
Great game tonight, everything seemed to work in our favour this evening. I thought Mancini got his tactics wrong tonight. For a start, David Silva was on the wrong wing, Ashley Cole had him on lockdown (or at least to a much greater extent than Bosingwa could have). Milner was useless. The player I was most scared of, Yaya Toure, didnt really seem to do much, not sure why he wasn't getting forward more. Had they put us under more pressure after the first goal we might have been vulnerable...
Men of the match = Romeu / Ramires / Mata. Those three bossed the midfield (to be honest Mata bossed pretty much the entire pitch). In particular, Romeu was on form from the first whistle and was playing some bess football even when the rest of the defence was panicking. If it wasn't for him, things could have been a lot worse at the beginning when City were pressing high up the pitch. Sturridge was decent too, although at some stage in his career it would be nice if he needed less than 10 shots to score 1 goal, he is the most wasteful striker in history.Final whistle at the Bridge
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Ah find dize a pretty heavy tag to put on d yute, especially with men like Saloman Kalou in D area and from a qualitative standpoint. even I hadda admit yuh cyah put him down as being worse than Torres at this point, can you? I dunno, ah guess I does be too patient wit players on my teams....Sturridge is only 22 and from day one to now is showing a rather steady climb up his learning curve so even if he does miss alot now, I always expect that aspect of his game will improve and I'm willing to give him the time to improve on it. It seems to me that he is being more effective than being just a goal scorer and that, to me, is an added bonus for a striker.
This win was a much-needed one and I am pleasantly surprised.....I thought mancity was goin' and come onto town and put we (Primier League) season to the sword but we still have life. From here on in, we need to reverse our first half results against the rest of the "Big Four" and not have any slip-ups against no bogey teams in order to salvage the season and our CL spot for next year. Of course, the hectic Christmas schedule will be a major factor in all this.
Balotelli's finish was sublime. Hadda hand it to this youth, for all the bashing he gets in the media (and on this ::) forum) and public humiliation and derision he gets from his coach whenever he does "do wrong" in some people eyes, he just keeps scoring goals. No better way for him to tell his critics to kiss his arse. I'm sure liverpool fans wish andy carroll coulda be scoring at half the rate balotelli scoring right now.
Looking at the replay on david silva's foul/dive....from othe goalward angle it look like there was contact, but from the goalside one it look like there was none, so I really dunno. Either way, we was lucky the ref saw it the way he did because it coulda be no contact still and mancity get d call. ( :praying: tank yuh, lawwd Jee-ZUSS!).
Clichy was a bit unlucky in that, it wasn't a clumsy or rediculous challenge on Ramires. He was just beaten by his pace, but so it goes, we go take it. Ramires is another one that woulda get run outta town by even his own, impatient Chelsea fans and I am glad to see he shuttin' his critics up, too. Not everybody is going to be a Juan Mata, a wayne rooney, a luiz suarez, etc., and have as immediate a positive impact as they and quite a few others have had upon their arrival. People hadda learn to be patient.
Lampard took that penalty the way yuh supposed to on a rainy day and wet surface. BLAST dah ball. Joe Hart had no chance. Spurs next. :beermug:
side note on d side: Buffon is really the absolute very best 'keeper of his time. I puttin' he ahead of men like VdS (one of my favourites) and schmeichel. Cannot say that I have seen him make too many mistakes.....if any at all.
Post by: JDB on December 13, 2011, 09:09:55 AM
Nicolas Anelka's move from Chelsea to China is no Shanghai surprise (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/dec/12/nicolas-anelka-chelsea-china-shanghai/print)
The French striker's Jedi cool has always meant that he will not be forced down anything other than his own chosen path
David Hytner
guardian.co.uk (http://www.footballunlimited.co.uk),
Monday 12 December 2011 14.01 EST
The hooded figure walked calmly through the frenzy, headphones in, dark glasses on, like some sort of Jedi. Nicolas Anelka had landed back in Europe, at Heathrow, after his World Cup tantrum in South Africa had sparked mutiny and meltdown in the France camp. He was click‑clicked every step of his way to the getaway car.
He did not need the shades. Anelka's public face has always resembled a mask; the eyes staring impassively into the distance, whether in triumph or disaster. When the striker became a Champions League winner in 2000 with Real Madrid – he started in the 3-0 victory over Valencia in Paris – he seemed cut off, somewhat isolated, in the post-match celebrations.
Spool forward to the 2008 final in Moscow and when his shootout miss for Chelsea saw Manchester United crowned as the champions, unleashing extremes of emotion in all quarters, there was barely a flicker from him. Anelka's nonchalance borders on the fatalistic; his professionalism is so icy that he regularly invites the accusation that he does not give a fig.
His transfer from Chelsea to Shanghai Shenhua, from the "greatest league in the world" to the fringes of the world game, at the age of 32, feels like his latest cold-blooded career decision. He might have been lining up at Stamford Bridge against Manchester City, one of his many former clubs, in one of the English season's showpiece games. Instead, he is preparing to leap into the unknown in January. It ought to be mildly shocking yet Anelka has lost the capacity to shock.
He merely polarises opinion like few others. He is a hero to the kids in the banlieues, an icon with the power to roll up one of his tracksuit legs to the knee and spark a fashion craze. There are few players cooler than Anelka. But to many others in France he is seen as a mercenary who will be forever tainted by his rant at the national team's manager, Raymond Domenech, at half-time in a 2010 World Cup group fixture against Mexico.
"Go and f**k yourself and your tactics," Anelka told Domenech. After refusing to apologise, he was put on a flight to London, the end of his World Cup coming shortly before that of his country. His international career was effectively over when he was given an 18-game suspension. "I'm dying of laughter," he said.
When Domenech's players went on strike over Anelka's expulsion, it showed his popularity in dressing rooms. Apart from at Madrid, when established stars made sure he was never welcomed, he has been well liked. At Chelsea, there was tremendous admiration for him and no little disillusionment when he was marginalised and then banished by André Villas-Boas.
Authority can fire Anelka's non-conformist streak. If he has always tended to put himself first, he does not take kindly to being treated with disrespect. A hasty exit was likely when Villas-Boas told him he could not use the first-team facilities, after he had requested a transfer. It took him less than a week to finalise his two-year contract at Shenhua, which is worth €10.6m (£8.9m) a year.
Some misconceptions have built around Anelka. He was not a disadvantaged Parisian urbanite – he was born in Versailles and his parents had regular jobs. He is a committed family man, a father of two boys who enjoys nothing more than quiet time. He believes that Shanghai will be a great city for the children.
But he has allowed the enigmatic image to grow, spiced by his apparent wanderlust, the transfer fees that total £85.8m and the influence of his brothers Claude and Didier, who advise him – some would say badly. Anelka would argue that his move from Arsenal to Madrid came too early; that he wanted to stay at Liverpool; and that the transfers to City, Fenerbahce and Bolton were part of the quest to return to a leading club.
Anelka attended the Clairefontaine centre of excellence with Thierry Henry and was thought the better prospect. He was the prototype modern No9: jet-heeled, super fit and efficient, with silky smooth technique. But if he can look like the best player on any pitch, he has also shown infuriating inconsistency and, at times, indifference. The debate rages as to whether he has fulfilled his potential.
In 1997, at the Under-20 World Cup, Anelka missed a penalty in a quarter-final shootout lost to Uruguay. The France manager, Gérard Houllier, spoke of him lacking mental strength but being honest enough to recognise it. Plenty of people have got between the hip-hop beat in Anelka's ears and found complexity. The game has been richer for it.
Post by: doublet750 on December 13, 2011, 10:31:45 AM
Post by: Blue on December 13, 2011, 01:32:06 PM
Ah find dize a pretty heavy tag to put on d yute, especially with men like Saloman Kalou in D area and from a qualitative standpoint. even I hadda admit yuh cyah put him down as being worse than Torres at this point, can you?
I agree, noone is as bad as Torres. And just to clarify, I wasnt criticising Sturridge's performance last night, he was pretty good and was doing two things very well - passing the ball and running down the flank at pace....those are two things that have vastly improved in his game over the last couple of months. In fact, he has also started attempting shots with his right foot which he never used to do. I think he merits his place in the first XI on current form, so I'm happy to be patient and wait for his finishing to improve.
Balotelli's finish was sublime. Hadda hand it to this youth, for all the bashing he gets in the media (and on this ::) forum) and public humiliation and derision he gets from his coach whenever he does "do wrong" in some people eyes, he just keeps scoring goals. No better way for him to tell his critics to kiss his arse. I'm sure liverpool fans wish andy carroll coulda be scoring at half the rate balotelli scoring right now.
I agree, he is extremely talented, but he is an ass. I dunno if the cameras were picking it up, but he spent half the night arguing with Yaya Toure...about nothing. :rotfl: I get the impression that no matter how much he improves we will never really see his full potential because something eh right in his head lol.
Looking at the replay on david silva's foul/dive....from othe goalward angle it look like there was contact, but from the goalside one it look like there was none, so I really dunno. Either way, we was lucky the ref saw it the way he did because it coulda be no contact still and mancity get d call. ( :praying: tank yuh, lawwd Jee-ZUSS!).
From where I was sitting, it looked like a blatant dive, Bosingwa never made contact. If yuh notice, Silva never appealed. In fact, de whole stadium was cussing the ref for not booking Silva for diving. I just watched de replay and still think it was a dive.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 04:10:43 PM
mango we have wigan first on saturday @ 1230 on FSC.....ah win there would cut d deficit to 4 points and then we could hope for city to lose to arsenal too and be even deeper inthe thick of things
tanx fuh d correction....I coulda SWEAR I see somewhere advertising that we playing Spurs next.....maybe it was espn. But in any event.....ever since they come up to the primiership, Wigan has given us some kinds of trouble, so I have them down as one o' we bogey teams. We better handle them proper this weekend. :beermug:
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 04:18:07 PM
Ah find dize a pretty heavy tag to put on d yute, especially with men like Saloman Kalou in D area and from a qualitative standpoint. even I hadda admit yuh cyah put him down as being worse than Torres at this point, can you?
I agree, noone is as bad as Torres. And just to clarify, I wasnt criticising Sturridge's performance last night, he was pretty good and was doing two things very well - passing the ball and running down the flank at pace....those are two things that have vastly improved in his game over the last couple of months. In fact, he has also started attempting shots with his right foot which he never used to do. I think he merits his place in the first XI on current form, so I'm happy to be patient and wait for his finishing to improve.Balotelli's finish was sublime. Hadda hand it to this youth, for all the bashing he gets in the media (and on this ::) forum) and public humiliation and derision he gets from his coach whenever he does "do wrong" in some people eyes, he just keeps scoring goals. No better way for him to tell his critics to kiss his arse. I'm sure liverpool fans wish andy carroll coulda be scoring at half the rate balotelli scoring right now.
I agree, he is extremely talented, but he is an ass. I dunno if the cameras were picking it up, but he spent half the night arguing with Yaya Toure...about nothing. :rotfl: I get the impression that no matter how much he improves we will never really see his full potential because something eh right in his head lol.Looking at the replay on david silva's foul/dive....from othe goalward angle it look like there was contact, but from the goalside one it look like there was none, so I really dunno. Either way, we was lucky the ref saw it the way he did because it coulda be no contact still and mancity get d call. ( :praying: tank yuh, lawwd Jee-ZUSS!).
From where I was sitting, it looked like a blatant dive, Bosingwa never made contact. If yuh notice, Silva never appealed. In fact, de whole stadium was cussing the ref for not booking Silva for diving. I just watched de replay and still think it was a dive.
to me, the biggest ass in the primiership is joey barton. for some of the things he has done, both on and off the field, make Balotelli look like a saint and he should be in jail. My take on an opponent arguing all night long with his teammates: GOOD! Let them fight amongst themselves. Maybe it helped us.
Post by: elan on December 13, 2011, 04:31:07 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 15, 2011, 09:59:08 PM
That argument I think started over a freekick that Yaya wanted and Ballotelli tell him nah and Ballo took it.
It seem like he and Micah Richards couldn't agree on who to take a free-kick in training, too.
Post by: doublet750 on December 16, 2011, 01:05:26 PM
Post by: elan on December 16, 2011, 03:46:02 PM
ESPNsoccernet staff
Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli has become embroiled in yet more controversy following a training ground bust-up with team-mate Micah Richards on Thursday.
The two players clashed towards the end of a practice match ahead of Sunday's high-profile game against in-form Arsenal and the two players had to be separated by their colleagues.
Eyewitnesses claimed there was a heated verbal exchange between the two players before they squared up to one another, with Richards particularly aggrieved about what was said.
However, Richards later played down the scuffle and said the matter had already forgotten.
"Me & mario are all good!" the City defender wrote on Twitter. "These things happen in training & we shook hands after. It shows passion!"
It is also not the first incident of its kind to make the news at the club over the past year. Balotelli clashed with Jerome Boateng and Vincent Kompany last season while Emmanuel Adebayor and Kolo Toure were also pictured seemingly fighting.
This latest matter also brings Balotelli into the news once again for matters other than his performances on the field.
Most infamously, the fire service was called to the 21-year-old's house in Cheshire in October after fireworks set off from inside the bathroom started a blaze.
The Italian was also in the headlines earlier this week after being spotted out in Manchester city centre in the early hours of Sunday morning - less than 48 hours before the game at Chelsea - but manager Roberto Mancini dismissed that as unimportant.
Despite these incidents, Balotelli has impressed on the pitch this term, scoring 11 goals.
Post by: Bitter on December 22, 2011, 02:13:00 PM
Sturridge!!!! ???
Post by: Bitter on December 22, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
They get tief on that disallowed goal though.
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 22, 2011, 03:58:11 PM
Post by: elan on December 22, 2011, 04:02:36 PM
Spurs gone off the boil.
They get tief on that disallowed goal though.
I'm kinda thinking that, but the feed I am looking at they never showed a proper angle.
Ramires should have had a hatrick. Sturridge head is getting to big and needs a benching.
Merieles should have gotten subbed and introduced Lampard.
Post by: elan on December 22, 2011, 04:03:32 PM
Terry was world class tonight. De man played like he was possessed.
Terry over Vidic and Ferdinand any day.......seriously. The man 1v1 defending ability out there. Plus he ruthless.
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 22, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
Terry was world class tonight. De man played like he was possessed.
Terry over Vidic and Ferdinand any day.......seriously. The man 1v1 defending ability out there. Plus he ruthless.
Yeah, now that Torres is he teammate. Remember dem days when Torres used to skin Terry 1v 1? ;) But seriously, his defensive instincts were superd today. Only other English central defender who reads the game like that - Ledley King. He is ah boss; real calm and composed at the back with great passing ability. It's a pity that he can't even train properly, cause he'd definitely have partnered Terry for England.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 22, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
Terry was world class tonight. De man played like he was possessed.
Terry over Vidic and Ferdinand any day.......seriously. The man 1v1 defending ability out there. Plus he ruthless.
Terry was world class tonight. De man played like he was possessed.
Terry over Vidic and Ferdinand any day.......seriously. The man 1v1 defending ability out there. Plus he ruthless.
Yeah, now that Torres is he teammate. Remember dem days when Torres used to skin Terry 1v 1? ;) But seriously, his defensive instincts were superd today. Only other English central defender who reads the game like that - Ledley King. He is ah boss; real calm and composed at the back with great passing ability. It's a pity that he can't even train properly, cause he'd definitely have partnered Terry for England.
Terry's only problem is that he is slow. but, yes, he more than makes up for it in his ability to read the game. People say he's a nasty player....I don't think he is nastier than vidic or than what is typical of English football.
Post by: Bitter on December 22, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
As for Terry, the last block says it all. He was running back to cover Cech before Adebayor got the ball, which would have put anyone coming to the area onside btw, it could have been ugly. A team like Man U would have had a runner coming in and a tap-in goal.
Post by: dinho on December 22, 2011, 05:10:35 PM
A very, very strange thing happened with the Ivanovic injury though. Prior to that, Bosingwa was defending Bale like he was afraid of him, only backing off when he could have stepped up and put in the challenge, and giving him way too much room. When I see Ferreira coming on at RB and Bosingwa going to CB i swear honest to God we was dead.. But Ferreira actually did an excellent job on Bale, playing him close and harrying him anytime in possession. This is the same Ferreira that Bale nyam way the last time we played at Spurs ground.
Game was end to end but i think Chelsea had the better of the chances, the Drogba chest down then hit post.. The Ramires one v one and free header all were clear cut.
Sturridge is an enigma. He is the most potent weapon for Chelsea in the final third, but lawd the youth greedy bad and not nearly as clinical enough as he need to be. He could be a 20 goal a season man if he get consistent with it. Mata also looking like fatigue starting to take him.
A draw was a fair result, Spurs are an excellent team and will be top 4 this year i feel, at the expense of Arsenal of course.
Post by: doublet750 on December 23, 2011, 08:30:40 AM
Chelsea started out the game in reverse gear and Spurs were all over us. Didn't think we string 2 passes together in the first 10 and the goal was always coming.
A very, very strange thing happened with the Ivanovic injury though. Prior to that, Bosingwa was defending Bale like he was afraid of him, only backing off when he could have stepped up and put in the challenge, and giving him way too much room. When I see Ferreira coming on at RB and Bosingwa going to CB i swear honest to God we was dead.. But Ferreira actually did an excellent job on Bale, playing him close and harrying him anytime in possession. This is the same Ferreira that Bale nyam way the last time we played at Spurs ground.
Game was end to end but i think Chelsea had the better of the chances, the Drogba chest down then hit post.. The Ramires one v one and free header all were clear cut.
Sturridge is an enigma. He is the most potent weapon for Chelsea in the final third, but lawd the youth greedy bad and not nearly as clinical enough as he need to be. He could be a 20 goal a season man if he get consistent with it. Mata also looking like fatigue starting to take him.
A draw was a fair result, Spurs are an excellent team and will be top 4 this year i feel, at the expense of Arsenal of course.
good points dinho but i recall in that game that ferriera get GNYAM out that he did sufficiently well for a player who in all honesty compared to bale SLOW LIKE MOLASSES ...i even remember him getting praise from all the players and carlo ancelotti on that game....same praise he deserved again this year cuz lets be serious bale did not do to him what he did to bosingwa on that first goal and part of me wants to believe taht bale knew that paulo is ah different animal who wouldnt let him get much room to go down that line easy.....i cant even really recall bale going down taht line and attacking paulo more than 5 times but first half even assou ekoto was taking he chance @ bosingwa.
not disagreeing with you tho i see your aim is to praise ferriera
as for the sturridge comment yuh right again very greedy and not as lethal as he should be but he still have ah chance @ making 20 goals this season he already has 9 in the league alone and 11 in all competitions ....if he could maintain this form or replicate what he did @ bolton for the second half of the season then he will easily match that 20 goal platform
in my view of the game on a whole the injuries highlight why we need Cahill in January and while i feel we wont need a striker i could only watch modric trickery n pine away at what could have been......mata and modric just like city have nasri and silva (wont always play together but in times when mata bun-out like yesterday modric would surely step up)
Post by: doublet750 on December 23, 2011, 08:35:03 AM
Terry was world class tonight. De man played like he was possessed.
Terry over Vidic and Ferdinand any day.......seriously. The man 1v1 defending ability out there. Plus he ruthless.Terry was world class tonight. De man played like he was possessed.
Terry over Vidic and Ferdinand any day.......seriously. The man 1v1 defending ability out there. Plus he ruthless.
Yeah, now that Torres is he teammate. Remember dem days when Torres used to skin Terry 1v 1? ;) But seriously, his defensive instincts were superd today. Only other English central defender who reads the game like that - Ledley King. He is ah boss; real calm and composed at the back with great passing ability. It's a pity that he can't even train properly, cause he'd definitely have partnered Terry for England.
Terry's only problem is that he is slow. but, yes, he more than makes up for it in his ability to read the game. People say he's a nasty player....I don't think he is nastier than vidic or than what is typical of English football.
Tenors serious talk when we buy torres i swear i was happy for two reasons...1) he would hopefully add more goals to the team and score soem beauties the way he was doing for pool (this has since been an unfullfilled joy) and 2) THE ONLY TIME he would HARASS JT is in PRACTICE or ah international .....that 2-0 win @ Anfield last year where he score both he take ADVANTAGE of JT in the WORST WAY
Post by: Bitter on December 26, 2011, 08:44:22 AM
:frustrated:
Post by: doublet750 on December 26, 2011, 06:54:28 PM
Frustrating as hell...a phrase us blues fans have grown accustomed to smh
:frustrated:
Post by: Observer on December 27, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on December 31, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
Post by: Bitter on December 31, 2011, 10:54:36 AM
Post by: dinho on December 31, 2011, 11:00:18 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 31, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
Post by: elan on December 31, 2011, 11:42:05 AM
Post by: mukumsplau on December 31, 2011, 12:04:41 PM
Post by: fari on December 31, 2011, 04:51:57 PM
Chelsea is the new Arsenal >:(
huh?
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2012, 09:14:25 AM
Then again, since Chelsea is the new Arsenal, they will score one and tie or lose it late. Wolves is a jumbie side.
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2012, 09:28:16 AM
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2012, 09:35:17 AM
5 yellows now. Ashley Cole putting on his best DeJong impression. Wildness all over the field from both sides. And Wolves almost score twice already. All now so Cahill upping his price.
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2012, 10:43:55 AM
Wolves is a jumbie side.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2012, 10:44:20 AM
Chelsea come out Serious this game. Wolves could be in Trouble.
Then again, since Chelsea is the new Arsenal, they will score one and tie or lose it late. Wolves is a jumbie side.
You were say?
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2012, 10:47:32 AM
Chelsea come out Serious this game. Wolves could be in Trouble.
Then again, since Chelsea is the new Arsenal, they will score one and tie or lose it late. Wolves is a jumbie side.
You were say?
I selling Lotto numbers!
Lampard!!!!!!
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
Post by: injunchile on January 02, 2012, 11:58:33 AM
Post by: doublet750 on January 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
im so glad avb brace juve....he seems tactically retarded..in serie a he may have been a horror show
not sure u could call a man who win three throphies last year n went the league undefeated as "tactically retarded" ....he has adapted do remember he started out with cavalier football but now he slowly renovating his ideas ...question is can the players manage to do it on the field
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 08, 2012, 10:00:13 AM
0-0 at d half
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 08, 2012, 12:07:56 PM
Goals from Mata, Ramires x2 and Lamps. Torres with two assists
Ryan, looking forward to your match report since there was absolutely no coverage of this game
Post by: Blue on January 08, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
4-0 Final score
Goals from Mata, Ramires x2 and Lamps. Torres with two assists
Ryan, looking forward to your match report since there was absolutely no coverage of this game
lol, u didnt miss much. That was the worst 4-0 I have ever been to. We definitely didnt deserve to win by that margin....1-0 would have sufficed...and in fact it was only 1-0 until around the 85th minute. The performance was devoid of any creativity, we never looked like losing but we were struggling to get any decent shots on target. I blame most of it on Torres, who does not challenge for aerial balls and does not get into useful positions in the box. Thank god for Ramires at the end, coming through with two goals to make the scoreline respectable.
As mentioned before, Torres was dreadful as usual. The stats might say he had two assists but that really flatters him. He had one shot all game long...given the number of times he received the ball in decent positions against a lower division side that is unacceptable. And as for his assists...the first one was not really an assist at all....Mata chipped the ball in for Torres to try a headed shot...Torres completely messed it up and the ball bounced off his shoulder/back to Ramires who finished well. His second assist was a good pass to Ramires, but in truth it was cowardly...any other striker would not have passed, they would have had a shot at goal themselves. Lukaku had a 5 minute cameo at the end and looked much better than Torres.
Nothing else of note really. Lampard and Malouda looked decent, neither of them are washed up as is often reported, but without a decent target in the box they are limited to loitering on the edge of the box trying to find a way in. Malouda finally managed to provide an assist to Mata for the first goal, getting to the byline and cutting back to Mata (3 years ago, Torres would definitely have been getting on the end of crosses like that).
David Luiz is a clown, spent most of the game trying to showcase his offensive skills, almost got caught out more than once. hopefully he doesn't try that in any more Premier league games.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 09, 2012, 10:08:45 AM
David Luiz is a clown, spent most of the game trying to showcase his offensive skills, almost got caught out more than once. hopefully he doesn't try that in any more Premier league games.
He have a lot of maturing to do
Post by: Bitter on January 14, 2012, 09:16:13 AM
Post by: doublet750 on January 14, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
the entire 2nd half showed just how bad the final ball can be from our current crop of midfield players.
Post by: Blue on January 14, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
he also need ah person besides mata who could pass and keep defenses off balance!...look @ what sesegnon did today!!....he was linked with chelsea ancelotti first year but somebody upstairs said he wouldnt impact the premier league.
the entire 2nd half showed just how bad the final ball can be from our current crop of midfield players.
well, u could blame the midfield or you could blame Torres....cuz the same midfield seems to be able to make goals for Drogba and Sturridge. If Torres spent more time making runs into the box instead of standing out on the flanks he might actually score one of these days....shame his effort didnt go in today though, it was pretty spectacular.
In better news, Essien is back! Built like a beast and ran the midfield like a boss in his 20 minute cameo Will be interesting to see how we line up with him at our disposal now.
Poor Chelsea performance by the way, Sunderland should have beaten us...thank god they only had Bendtner upfront, he is worse than Torres.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 14, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
he also need ah person besides mata who could pass and keep defenses off balance!...look @ what sesegnon did today!!....he was linked with chelsea ancelotti first year but somebody upstairs said he wouldnt impact the premier league.
the entire 2nd half showed just how bad the final ball can be from our current crop of midfield players.
well, u could blame the midfield or you could blame Torres....cuz the same midfield seems to be able to make goals for Drogba and Sturridge. If Torres spent more time making runs into the box instead of standing out on the flanks he might actually score one of these days....shame his effort didnt go in today though, it was pretty spectacular.
In better news, Essien is back! Built like a beast and ran the midfield like a boss in his 20 minute cameo Will be interesting to see how we line up with him at our disposal now.
Poor Chelsea performance by the way, Sunderland should have beaten us...thank god they only had Bendtner upfront, he is worse than Torres.
I am no Torres fan but how can you compare Drogba and Sturridge to Torres when they are different types of stikers? Both are more athletic and creative than Torress who depends on the creativity of the players around him to score. Chelsea has one creative midfielder who is Mata ands he gets played out of position to accomodate Lampard who sets up nobody but himself. And no wingers to speak off. Torres has also been unlucky but appears to be finding other ways to help the team who is not playing to his strengths.
Post by: doublet750 on January 14, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
he also need ah person besides mata who could pass and keep defenses off balance!...look @ what sesegnon did today!!....he was linked with chelsea ancelotti first year but somebody upstairs said he wouldnt impact the premier league.
the entire 2nd half showed just how bad the final ball can be from our current crop of midfield players.
well, u could blame the midfield or you could blame Torres....cuz the same midfield seems to be able to make goals for Drogba and Sturridge. If Torres spent more time making runs into the box instead of standing out on the flanks he might actually score one of these days....shame his effort didnt go in today though, it was pretty spectacular.
In better news, Essien is back! Built like a beast and ran the midfield like a boss in his 20 minute cameo Will be interesting to see how we line up with him at our disposal now.
Poor Chelsea performance by the way, Sunderland should have beaten us...thank god they only had Bendtner upfront, he is worse than Torres.
I am no Torres fan but how can you compare Drogba and Sturridge to Torres when they are different types of stikers? Both are more athletic and creative than Torress who depends on the creativity of the players around him to score. Chelsea has one creative midfielder who is Mata ands he gets played out of position to accomodate Lampard who sets up nobody but himself. And no wingers to speak off. Torres has also been unlucky but appears to be finding other ways to help the team who is not playing to his strengths.
and thts the truth....Mata is not a LW he is a person who needs a FREE ROLE....Drogba is a powerhouse so lump anything up to him and he creating or jus put it at he feet and watch him use his sheer power to go past defenders....Sturridge CReATES FOR HIMSELF he hs tht dynamic about him tht allows him to combine good footwork with speed nd thus in itself keps defenders off balance trying to anticipate his moves but as we all realise he has a selfish streak to his game (he is a st afterall) .....but TORRES is ah man who needs good service....WHY BUY A PLAYER FOR 50 MiLL HOPING TO MAKE HIM THE FUTURE SPEARHEAD OF YOUR ATTACK IF YOU WONT PLY TO HIS STRENGTHS.....as of now we have seen Fernando popping up on the flanks just trying to help the team cuz we all know it aint a good feeling knowing tht not only u out of form you not even complementing the team in ANY WAY ....credit to him he has been trying so lets just wish him the best.....n im not a torres fanatic with the current way our team is set up i prefer drogba to lead the attack (like i said this team aint built to torres strengths) just dont like to see any member of my squad having rough time
Post by: Blue on January 15, 2012, 06:36:36 AM
he also need ah person besides mata who could pass and keep defenses off balance!...look @ what sesegnon did today!!....he was linked with chelsea ancelotti first year but somebody upstairs said he wouldnt impact the premier league.
the entire 2nd half showed just how bad the final ball can be from our current crop of midfield players.
well, u could blame the midfield or you could blame Torres....cuz the same midfield seems to be able to make goals for Drogba and Sturridge. If Torres spent more time making runs into the box instead of standing out on the flanks he might actually score one of these days....shame his effort didnt go in today though, it was pretty spectacular.
In better news, Essien is back! Built like a beast and ran the midfield like a boss in his 20 minute cameo Will be interesting to see how we line up with him at our disposal now.
Poor Chelsea performance by the way, Sunderland should have beaten us...thank god they only had Bendtner upfront, he is worse than Torres.
I am no Torres fan but how can you compare Drogba and Sturridge to Torres when they are different types of stikers? Both are more athletic and creative than Torress who depends on the creativity of the players around him to score. Chelsea has one creative midfielder who is Mata ands he gets played out of position to accomodate Lampard who sets up nobody but himself. And no wingers to speak off. Torres has also been unlucky but appears to be finding other ways to help the team who is not playing to his strengths.
and thts the truth....Mata is not a LW he is a person who needs a FREE ROLE....Drogba is a powerhouse so lump anything up to him and he creating or jus put it at he feet and watch him use his sheer power to go past defenders....Sturridge CReATES FOR HIMSELF he hs tht dynamic about him tht allows him to combine good footwork with speed nd thus in itself keps defenders off balance trying to anticipate his moves but as we all realise he has a selfish streak to his game (he is a st afterall) .....but TORRES is ah man who needs good service....WHY BUY A PLAYER FOR 50 MiLL HOPING TO MAKE HIM THE FUTURE SPEARHEAD OF YOUR ATTACK IF YOU WONT PLY TO HIS STRENGTHS.....as of now we have seen Fernando popping up on the flanks just trying to help the team cuz we all know it aint a good feeling knowing tht not only u out of form you not even complementing the team in ANY WAY ....credit to him he has been trying so lets just wish him the best.....n im not a torres fanatic with the current way our team is set up i prefer drogba to lead the attack (like i said this team aint built to torres strengths) just dont like to see any member of my squad having rough time
I agree that Drogba and Sturridge are better served because of their style of play. But wtf is Torres' style of play nowadays? He doesn't compete for high balls, he doesn't attack crosses, he's lost his pace so is not much use on the counter attack, and after a year he still seems to be on a different wavelength to most of the midfield, lurking out on the wings Anelka-style. You can't really blame a midfield for lack of creativity if their centre forward isn't in the box for them to pick out. And that same midfield have scored every single one of our goals so far this calendar year so they can't be that bad.
Post by: doublet750 on January 15, 2012, 11:23:19 AM
im very interested on some season pass tickets like u have when i move to london though and i must say i for one envy you for being able to go to the games lol....cheers on d match reports :beermug:
Post by: injunchile on January 15, 2012, 08:02:53 PM
With Sturridge back in the fold and Essien providing the true pass . look for a new Torres.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2012, 01:54:47 PM
I would not be surprise if Mata would not be saying the same thing next year this time about being displaced by Lampard. Hopefully AVB does not let Lampard's name and rep interfere with him doing what's best for the team which is playing Mata in the middle vs Lampard.
I wanted Bayern but was sold to Chelsea - Zhirkov
Reuters, Saturday January 21 2012
MOSCOW, Jan 21 (Reuters) - Former Chelsea winger Yuri Zhirkov says he is happy to be back in Russia because he had problems adjusting to English football.
The Russia international, who joined big spenders Anzhi Makhachkala last August after two seasons with Chelsea, also revealed that he wanted to join Bundesliga's Bayern Munich but instead was sold to the west London club.
"Then I had offers from both Chelsea and Bayern, and I wanted Bayern," Zhirkov, who moved to Stamford Bridge from CSKA Moscow for a reported 18 million pound ($29.2 million) fee in July 2009, was quoted as saying by Anzhi's website (www.fc-anji.ru).
"(It was) because (former CSKA team mate and friend) Ivica Olic was already playing for Bayern and in general I like Germany more than England. But in the end I was sold to Chelsea."
Zhirkov, 28, said that no matter how well he had been playing, the then Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti would always prefer England midfielder Frank Lampard.
"Psychologically I also feel much better in Russia because at Chelsea I had problems," he said. "For example, I would play 10 matches in a row, then Lampard would return from an injury and right away I would find myself seating on the bench.
"If you played well or badly it made no difference. It's not that I was offended but I just wanted to know why this was happening."
Zhirkov also said he had felt very lonely in London and accused Chelsea of not helping him to obtain a visa for his wife. "Why didn't they help me with the visa? I don't know. Maybe on purpose." (Reporting
By Gennady Fyodorov, editing by Dave Thompson.(To comment on this story email sportsfeedback@thomsonreuters.com; dave.thompson@thomsonreuters.com +44 207 542 7933; Reuters messenger: dave.thompson.reuters.com@reuters.net; Please double click on the newslink for more soccer)
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 29, 2012, 02:27:01 AM
Dat wasnt ah penalty...Sturridge dive dey no contact whatsoever....steups... :cursing:
http://www.tvgolo.com/football.php?subaction=showfull&id=1325071281&archive=&start_from=&ucat=40&
Post by: doublet750 on January 31, 2012, 08:15:17 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2012, 10:16:13 AM
Doh worry Sir Alex, Webb will play his way into the game.
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2012, 10:36:29 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
Post by: samo on February 05, 2012, 10:54:20 AM
Chelsea for the win---
Patriots for the win
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 05, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Mata mash up the top right hand corner of the net with that volley!
2-0 Chelsea.
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2012, 11:10:23 AM
3-0!
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2012, 11:10:29 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
(will ignore Samo's mention of the stinking patriots.....GIANTS, Baby!!)
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 05, 2012, 11:28:45 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2012, 11:31:55 AM
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2012, 11:34:54 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Chelsea real killing the vibes with these penalty concessions man
Yuh cannot call that second penalty a concession, not by the player or the team. Ivanovic didn't even make an attempt at the ball or the man. All he did was try to balance himself and plant his own foot under himself and somehow danny welbeck got his fleet-footed self to tangle and trip over him.
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2012, 11:43:52 AM
Post by: Bakes on February 05, 2012, 11:44:10 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 05, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
Well, this is a good advert for the beautiful game in the USA
Post by: Bakes on February 05, 2012, 11:47:30 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 05, 2012, 11:49:11 AM
Post by: Bakes on February 05, 2012, 11:52:47 AM
Howard Webb really f**ked us in the ass today
If that's how you feel, imagine if he had actually given the first penalty for Ivanovic's clear foul on Sturridge in the box in the first half.
.... De Gea is a bundle of easily aroused nerves in goal, but the kid is a fantastic shot stopper.
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 05, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
Post by: warmonga on February 05, 2012, 11:56:05 AM
war
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2012, 11:57:18 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 11:57:32 AM
Stamford Bridge is falling down...
and somewhere, buried beneath all the rubble. is liverpool.
Howard Webb really f**ked us in the ass today
If that's how you feel, imagine if he had actually given the first penalty for Ivanovic's clear foul on Sturridge in the box in the first half.
....
What clear foul? On his own player? smdh.
Post by: fari on February 05, 2012, 12:00:56 PM
Post by: Bakes on February 05, 2012, 12:01:42 PM
What clear foul? On his own player? smdh.
I could always count on you to take bait... smdh.
Post by: triniairman on February 05, 2012, 12:02:05 PM
I love the smell of LICKSSSS!!!! in the morning!yuh have the cold ah wat? I think yuh smelt wrong! Haha
3-0!
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 12:02:33 PM
that was a good game.
It was a good first half. :laugh: :banginghead:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 12:04:37 PM
What clear foul? On his own player? smdh.
I could always count on you to take bait... smdh.
"bait"....your euphemism for your own stupidity.
Post by: Bakes on February 05, 2012, 12:09:47 PM
"bait"....your euphemism for your own stupidity.
Keep comforting yuhself with that thought.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 12:25:22 PM
"bait"....your euphemism for your own stupidity.
Keep comforting yuhself with that thought.
I find comfort in knowing that one day you will learn how to get your shit in order before comin' on tryin' to give (inaccurate) commentary.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
that was a good game.
It was a good first half. :laugh: :banginghead:
Chow yuh wake up! ;D Yuh better hope all yuh side at least place fourth with Castle and Arsenal breathing down all yuh neck.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
that was a good game.
It was a good first half. :laugh: :banginghead:
Chow yuh wake up! ;D Yuh better hope all yuh side at least place fourth with Castle and Arsenal breathing down all yuh neck.
Yuh eh lie nuh......we done have more draws than fruit of the loom! :frustrated:. Instead of spending big money on players, the smarter (obviously. DUH!) investment is to spend small money on referees.....like manu did. :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2012, 02:04:39 PM
that was a good game.
It was a good first half. :laugh: :banginghead:
Chow yuh wake up! ;D Yuh better hope all yuh side at least place fourth with Castle and Arsenal breathing down all yuh neck.
Yuh eh lie nuh......we done have more draws than fruit of the loom! :frustrated:. Instead of spending big money on players, the smarter (obviously. DUH!) investment is to spend small money on referees.....like manu did. :devil:
Isn't that how all yuh haven't lorse tuh us in the EPL at home in years as well as the nice home record all yuh had; because of the refs all yuh own? :devil: Ref not tuh blame, all dem penalties even out for the game. If we hadn't push the play after he didn't call the first one on Welbeck we wouldn't have given a reason tuh call the last two.
Sturridge have no right tuh complain since he earned one the other day after he crumbled when a defender breathe on him the box.
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 05, 2012, 02:14:12 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 02:20:15 PM
that was a good game.
It was a good first half. :laugh: :banginghead:
Chow yuh wake up! ;D Yuh better hope all yuh side at least place fourth with Castle and Arsenal breathing down all yuh neck.
Yuh eh lie nuh......we done have more draws than fruit of the loom! :frustrated:. Instead of spending big money on players, the smarter (obviously. DUH!) investment is to spend small money on referees.....like manu did. :devil:
Isn't that how all yuh haven't lorse tuh us in the EPL at home in years as well as the nice home record all yuh had; because of the refs all yuh own? :devil: Ref not tuh blame, all dem penalties even out for the game. If we hadn't push the play after he didn't call the first one on Welbeck we wouldn't have given a reason tuh call the last two.
Sturridge have no right tuh complain since he earned one the other day after he crumbled when a defender breathe on him the box.
de man CLEARLY did run into the back of Sturridge......I agree he was glad to feel the contact and lay down to tell the turf about it....but it was a dumb move by the defender. Allyuh just OWN howard webb!!
Definitely missed JT today, not for his play, but more for his ability to marshall the troops. I think with him on the pitch, it would have been much less likely that Chelsea would squander a three goal lead. AVB needs to find the right attacking and defending balance. His all-out onslaught will not work in the EPL. I still think he should be given more time to mold the team.
he needs more time, I agree and we need more/different players. Malouda and Bosingwa were awful today, giving away the ball every chance they got or playing into pressure situations. Chelsea were playing like they were afraid of what was going to happen rather than makimg things happen for themselves (something I will always give fergie credit for instilling in his players/teams). That self-belief we had under Jose, Hiddink, etc, is gone.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
that was a good game.
It was a good first half. :laugh: :banginghead:
Chow yuh wake up! ;D Yuh better hope all yuh side at least place fourth with Castle and Arsenal breathing down all yuh neck.
Yuh eh lie nuh......we done have more draws than fruit of the loom! :frustrated:. Instead of spending big money on players, the smarter (obviously. DUH!) investment is to spend small money on referees.....like manu did. :devil:
Isn't that how all yuh haven't lorse tuh us in the EPL at home in years as well as the nice home record all yuh had; because of the refs all yuh own? :devil: Ref not tuh blame, all dem penalties even out for the game. If we hadn't push the play after he didn't call the first one on Welbeck we wouldn't have given a reason tuh call the last two.
Sturridge have no right tuh complain since he earned one the other day after he crumbled when a defender breathe on him the box.
de man CLEARLY did run into the back of Sturridge......I agree he was glad to feel the contact and lay down to tell the turf about it....but it was a dumb move by the defender. Allyuh just OWN howard webb!!Definitely missed JT today, not for his play, but more for his ability to marshall the troops. I think with him on the pitch, it would have been much less likely that Chelsea would squander a three goal lead. AVB needs to find the right attacking and defending balance. His all-out onslaught will not work in the EPL. I still think he should be given more time to mold the team.
he needs more time, I agree and we need more/different players. Malouda and Bosingwa were awful today, giving away the ball every chance they got or playing into pressure situations. Chelsea were playing like they were afraid of what was going to happen rather than makimg things happen for themselves (something I will always give fergie credit for instilling in his players/teams). That self-belief we had under Jose, Hiddink, etc, is gone.
I have always said players need tuh think more about time, place and situation when they tackle. Also adjust their games based on how the ref, reffin a game. Don't put self in positions for the ref tuh make a call especially if yuh know the ref like tuh flash cards. Two footed tackles is another one players have yet to realize they can't get away with.
Not sure the Chelsea players trust AVB yet. Can't say I blame them. He has been inconsistent as a manager and not playing tuh players' strengths.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2012, 02:38:22 PM
Post by: elan on February 05, 2012, 03:07:33 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2012, 03:29:04 PM
I dunno what Malouda's strengths are. Used to be his hairstyles.
Your best winger in Torres, to bad he can't cross tuh himself. :devil: Ah bet he would score!
Post by: Cocorite on February 05, 2012, 04:15:38 PM
Post by: Blue on February 05, 2012, 04:25:54 PM
Post by: elan on February 05, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2012, 06:16:03 PM
Post by: Big Magician on February 05, 2012, 11:11:48 PM
Ryan..SAVE these C#NTS
Post by: elan on February 05, 2012, 11:17:24 PM
Went to the game earlier, disappointed by the final score but the truth was that United were better. We were a mediocre team putting in a spirited performance. Unfortunately for us we couldn't hold on. And Howard Webb didn't help. If we can't hold a 3 goal lead at home then we don't really deserve anything from the match.
A mediocre team to put 3 proper goals past United, can't say I am to terribly disappointed, when once again the refs to Man United aid.
Post by: kicker on February 06, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
Chelsea did not play well though...particularly in the first half (the first half was a dismal showing) and 3-0 at the time flattered them in a big big way...
strange that the final scoreline was actually a fair indication of how the game went, but at the same time, 2 soft penalties is plenty plenty help...
Post by: doublet750 on February 06, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
sidenote Webb tried to be consistent but he didnt have a good game to me...young went diving in the box first half and rather than award the freekick for simulation and the requisite yellow card he gave chelsea a freekick and young still didnt get a yellow card after he blatantly grabbed the ball expecting the penalty to come (which still requires a yellow card) .....this and other offences would have seen him sent off so idk y fergie expected cahill to recieve his marching orders.
Torres as a player was one of our better players on the pitch....as a ST though he was once again a man with no confidence.....the player with the least most confidence than him right now is de gea and y he choose to cut back instead of shoot on the volley shows his level right now....all supporters of chelsea can only hope that the phrase "Form is temporary class is permanent" is true when it comes to him in the striking department.
Y AVB didnt make changes to his LEFT SIDE ...i dont know....takin sturridge off after the pen was retribution cuz he felt studge wasnt defending n when he went back to do it a pen came ....bt @ the same time he had evra on edge and on a yellow so y even dare to take him off if he not giving away the ball like MALOUDA OR BOSINGWA.......it is clear we need a player to do on our left wing what sturridge does on our right (with less selfishness)
GOOD GAME FOR THE NEUTRAL THOUGH but for us fans it was pain
Post by: elan on February 06, 2012, 11:56:10 AM
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Post by: Bakes on February 06, 2012, 12:15:58 PM
That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Elan I cyah believe you really complaining about that Evra penalty, lol. Sturridge run up the man back. You seem to deem as "soft" any penalty that the attacking player earns... I absolutely agree that Wellbeck kick Ivanovic foot on purpose, but Ivanovic put himself in that position, and from the replays shown from Webb's perspective, I can't fault him for calling what he see.
All the talk also ignores Cahill's clear foul on Wellbeck just on the edge of the area, which ended inside the area and easily could have been called a penalty. Young's penalty shout wasn't the most convincing either, but compared to the call he gave Man U. when Berbatov took a clear dive against Liverpool in Dalglish first game (FA Cup) last year... he easily could have given it. I am one who thinks that Webb favors United... just don't think that was the case yesterday.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 06, 2012, 12:16:40 PM
That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Yuh know Elan yuh have rell selective memory or vision or both. I didn't hear yuh bleetin dat shit when Sturridge folded over tuh win a penalty that won Chelski a game. Or any other times Chelski has gotten calls that led to them winning a match. This is why I can't take some of all yuh serious on this forum, because is a set of one sidedness all yuh dos be bleetin week after week. Always playin the victim; cry me a friggin river!
Post by: triniairman on February 06, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Giggsy why you even paying this man any attention...You should have expected this from him. If Rooney beat his meat after f@*king his wife, we will know, cause Elan does pay more attention to Man.United than his own team. Straight hate from him and others on here week after week. It is understandable though, cause one tend to be jealous when their own team can't get results week in week out like Man.United. Have you ever notice, from the time we lose a game, they does run out and start bashing and looking for attention on here?That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Yuh know Elan yuh have rell selective memory or vision or both. I didn't hear yuh bleetin dat shit when Sturridge folded over tuh win a penalty that won Chelski a game. Or any other times Chelski has gotten calls that led to them winning a match. This is why I can't take some of all yuh serious on this forum, because is a set of one sidedness all yuh dos be bleetin week after week. Always playin the victim; cry me a friggin river!
Post by: Observer on February 06, 2012, 12:34:59 PM
That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Yuh know Elan yuh have rell selective memory or vision or both. I didn't hear yuh bleetin dat shit when Sturridge folded over tuh win a penalty that won Chelski a game. Or any other times Chelski has gotten calls that led to them winning a match. This is why I can't take some of all yuh serious on this forum, because is a set of one sidedness all yuh dos be bleetin week after week. Always playin the victim; cry me a friggin river!
Come on bro its fans!! FANS!!! (https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQv_W_mGyJ5ujhlg5XFGXjRuUX_Ihd4UF_1UFMwYxxRkGXXDhHI)
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
"Glory Glory! ". That is for d bag ah salt we get last week. :rotfl:
Post by: elan on February 06, 2012, 01:24:49 PM
That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Yuh know Elan yuh have rell selective memory or vision or both. I didn't hear yuh bleetin dat shit when Sturridge folded over tuh win a penalty that won Chelski a game. Or any other times Chelski has gotten calls that led to them winning a match. This is why I can't take some of all yuh serious on this forum, because is a set of one sidedness all yuh dos be bleetin week after week. Always playin the victim; cry me a friggin river!
Come on bro its fans!! FANS!!! (https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQv_W_mGyJ5ujhlg5XFGXjRuUX_Ihd4UF_1UFMwYxxRkGXXDhHI)
Can we get specific? Remember the 2 offside goals that was allowed to stand at Old Trafford...............it's not whining when it's factual. Hard luck, your attempt at rebuff cannot stand in the face of such overwhelming display of biasness.
If you look back you will see where many Chelsea fans have said where Chelsea play mess or did not deserve to win. However, this is not one time, i will not stand by and let Man United bullies trump. Look at Ferguson whining and crying to the media, why? because he trying to turn people away from what his team and their ref did.
The worst thing is when the bully playing victim. Hard luck try again.
Post by: elan on February 06, 2012, 01:37:25 PM
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/two-gift-goals-for-man-utd/125mhmj3 (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/two-gift-goals-for-man-utd/125mhmj3)
Post by: elan on February 06, 2012, 01:38:28 PM
Giggsy why you even paying this man any attention...You should have expected this from him. If Rooney beat his meat after f@*king his wife, we will know, cause Elan does pay more attention to Man.United than his own team. Straight hate from him and others on here week after week. It is understandable though, cause one tend to be jealous when their own team can't get results week in week out like Man.United. Have you ever notice, from the time we lose a game, they does run out and start bashing and looking for attention on here?That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Yuh know Elan yuh have rell selective memory or vision or both. I didn't hear yuh bleetin dat shit when Sturridge folded over tuh win a penalty that won Chelski a game. Or any other times Chelski has gotten calls that led to them winning a match. This is why I can't take some of all yuh serious on this forum, because is a set of one sidedness all yuh dos be bleetin week after week. Always playin the victim; cry me a friggin river!
You is just ah :clown: why not add something that make sense.
Post by: elan on February 06, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
That eh no soft penalties.....................it is no penalty. Wellbeck kicked his foot into Ivanovich after he pulled out from the tackle and Evra jumped into Sturridge. Absolutely :bs: calls and for Man United fans to celebrate that and talk about great come back and all that :bs: shows how much of football supporters they are. That was absolutely distasteful to have to resort to theatrics to stay in a game where you know the ref is on your side.
That's 2 games now Man United had to depend on the refs to see the game out.
Elan I cyah believe you really complaining about that Evra penalty, lol. Sturridge run up the man back. You seem to deem as "soft" any penalty that the attacking player earns... I absolutely agree that Wellbeck kick Ivanovic foot on purpose, but Ivanovic put himself in that position, and from the replays shown from Webb's perspective, I can't fault him for calling what he see.
All the talk also ignores Cahill's clear foul on Wellbeck just on the edge of the area, which ended inside the area and easily could have been called a penalty. Young's penalty shout wasn't the most convincing either, but compared to the call he gave Man U. when Berbatov took a clear dive against Liverpool in Dalglish first game (FA Cup) last year... he easily could have given it. I am one who thinks that Webb favors United... just don't think that was the case yesterday.
That is freaking :bs: call bakes, even in the NBA now they calling that against the attacker....................diving into the defender. I did adderss the set of fouls early in the game that Webb did not call, try reading through the thread properly.
Why make those calls when there are other calls that were by far more brutal? You know why, because at the time the score was 0-0. However, the game was not what was expected and it got changed to suit. The "Adjustment Bureau" if you like.
Post by: elan on February 06, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on February 06, 2012, 02:22:47 PM
Or and none ah alyuh eh talking about how Sturridge terrorized Evra all game. Evra was like ah good friday boboly.
Elan, I know you just being Elan-but sometimes ah think you dos catch a vaps or something yes. ;D
Post by: ANC2 on February 06, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
Post by: Bakes on February 06, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
That is freaking :bs: call bakes, even in the NBA now they calling that against the attacker....................diving into the defender. I did adderss the set of fouls early in the game that Webb did not call, try reading through the thread properly.
Why make those calls when there are other calls that were by far more brutal? You know why, because at the time the score was 0-0. However, the game was not what was expected and it got changed to suit. The "Adjustment Bureau" if you like.
I did read the thread properly... on the one hand yuh talking about "the set of fouls early in the game", and on the other hand yuh crying about specific goal scoring opportunities afforded to United based on "soft" penalties. I pointing out to you that there were legitimate goal scoring opportunities that reasonably could have been called against Chelsea (and in United's favor) that were not made. Your one-sided whining is legitimately being questioned. Now yuh talking about NBA fouls? Lol.
Post by: Peong on February 07, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
Fernando Torres 10/1 not to score another Premier League goal this season (http://www.goal.com/en/news/2994/betting/2012/02/07/2892505/fernando-torres-101-not-to-score-another-premier-league-goal)
And don't get me started about Evra and his faggit play.
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 07, 2012, 05:08:44 PM
Wellbeck is a pantyman ::)
Chelsea fans are some of the most critical fans of our team. when we playin shit, we say we playin shit. Ryan especially, since he is able to see the games live always states where we failed in a game, where we could improve, which player was a mess etc. He is able to look at the game with an unbiased eye which i definitely appreciate.
i for one didnt celebrate our victory over qpr last week cuz i know we got that penalty cuz of sturridge's 'dishonesty'
but when incidents like what webb did (the second penalty especially) happens, if u are an unbiased football fan, u would see that webb facked us over with that call and chelsea fans have a right to dig level horrors
Post by: Cowen on February 07, 2012, 06:46:48 PM
Real disrespect.
Fernando Torres 10/1 not to score another Premier League goal this season (http://www.goal.com/en/news/2994/betting/2012/02/07/2892505/fernando-torres-101-not-to-score-another-premier-league-goal)
And don't get me started about Evra and his faggit play.
Henry will score more than Torres :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 08, 2012, 04:14:11 AM
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Wellbeck is a pantyman ::)
couldn't have said it better myself.
but when incidents like what webb did (the second penalty especially) happens, if u are an unbiased football fan, u would see that webb facked us over with that call and chelsea fans have a right to dig level horrors
first off, people does forget that football is a contact sport and not all contact is a "foul". Welbeck is looking like (at least in this game) that he is fast becoming one of those players that learning how to "make sure I make myself GET fouled" every time a defender go to ground to taclkle him. Rooney been doin' it, too. The Cahill incident was not a foul. welllbeck trip over the man after deciding to cut back towards the goal even though the ball was trailing off towards the corner flag. Watch the replay again anytime and it will become clearer. Webb didn't need the benefit of replay to see that, at the very worst, it was just an entanglement of legs/bodies and wasn't no dam foul. Even though evra played to get fouled, too, I have no problem with the penalty call. Sturridge had a right to play a little smarter than he did in making an attempt to win that ball. He HAD to know what evra was likely to do.
the second penalty?! Loud facking steups!! Ivanovic slip on de turf and pulld out of the tackle same time. All he did was plant his left foot RIGHT next to his right one with his hand on the ground to upright himself. Once again, wellback made sure that he got himself fouled and webb made the whole world feel like he made he made a legit call. Anybody who call that a foul is a pure ass just like webb.
I grow up watchin' men push a ball past a defender and skip over a skate tackle easier than it is to breathe.....players no longer do that anymore. one a defender goes to ground, the attacker goin' with him, whether he drag or stick out a leg to create the "contact" and referees choose to fall for it and hypocritical fans does defend it......when it convenient fuh dem. All that being said, Chelsea played themselves into a lead, then played themselves into a draw. We were playing like we was afraid of what was going to happen to our 3-goal cushion and united played like the knew what they wanted to do to it.
Post by: just cool on February 08, 2012, 04:59:01 AM
Post by: Peong on February 08, 2012, 10:54:40 AM
Sturridge did not prevent him from making progress with the ball. He chose to end the play by going to ground.
:frustrated: I hate that shit.
Post by: doublet750 on February 09, 2012, 08:28:18 PM
The problem I have with the penalty that Evra won is that he could have kept his feet and the ball. Once he saw Sturridge coming and felt the contact he didn't try to keep his balance, he just kept his feet planted and tipped forward.
Sturridge did not prevent him from making progress with the ball. He chose to end the play by going to ground.
:frustrated: I hate that shit.
PREACHHHHH
Post by: Bitter on February 11, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
Post by: Peong on February 11, 2012, 10:58:09 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Post by: lefty on February 11, 2012, 03:10:09 PM
Post by: Observer on February 18, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
Players playing simple passes under no pressure, off the field, or between two players.
Minutes left, Central defenders no urgency to get the ball forward, doing step overs (not under pressure) running out time.
Free kick in placing range just blazing it into the wall ETC ETC ETC.
Everyone knows the owner is a Manager want to be, but put him aside for now. This is a club known for player power & undermining managers. As a casual observer, it seems that meetings with players and the owner has not worked. So what do you do next---------------?????
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 18, 2012, 10:36:41 AM
Not a Chelsea fan, but I watch today's game I cannot help but get the feeling many player are playing to get the manager fired.
Players playing simple passes under no pressure, off the field, or between two players.
Minutes left, Central defenders no urgency to get the ball forward, doing step overs (not under pressure) running out time.
Free kick in placing range just blazing it into the wall ETC ETC ETC.
Everyone knows the owner is a Manager want to be, but put him aside for now. This is a club known for player power & undermining managers. As a casual observer, it seems that meetings with players and the owner has not worked. So what do you do next---------------?????
It looks as though the players are not looking to give the manager a chance....on the side, we the fans are willing to give him more time and look to see where he might be able to take the team in the future but some of the players may not feel that way. On the one hand, players are paid to play but on the other hand there may be a whole lot of dressing room issues that really screwing things up and some, plenty or even all of it may be the manager's fault, who knows? Without knowing all them detail, I feel bad for him especially when it seems as though one of the players leading the revolution is Lampard and I can only wonder if his own sour grapes may stem from the fact that he finds it hard to accept that his role on and performances for this team are diminishing and the manager is willing to play (or NOT play) him accordingly. On the one hand, it's great to be a Chelsea fan with a team owner with deep, loose pockets......on the other hand, it's bad as a Chelsea fan that said owner does not understand or is not willing to accept that his role should still be limited to just that. Another problem are some of our fans and their dream-like expectations that, in this twitter and facebook world we live in, can be very damaging to their own causes. If alex ferguson wore held to the same expectations and been met with such impatience as AVB, Scolari,
Post by: Blue on February 18, 2012, 11:46:05 AM
Not a Chelsea fan, but I watch today's game I cannot help but get the feeling many player are playing to get the manager fired.
Players playing simple passes under no pressure, off the field, or between two players.
Minutes left, Central defenders no urgency to get the ball forward, doing step overs (not under pressure) running out time.
Free kick in placing range just blazing it into the wall ETC ETC ETC.
Everyone knows the owner is a Manager want to be, but put him aside for now. This is a club known for player power & undermining managers. As a casual observer, it seems that meetings with players and the owner has not worked. So what do you do next---------------?????
It looks as though the players are not looking to give the manager a chance....on the side, we the fans are willing to give him more time and look to see where he might be able to take the team in the future but some of the players may not feel that way. On the one hand, players are paid to play but on the other hand there may be a whole lot of dressing room issues that really screwing things up and some, plenty or even all of it may be the manager's fault, who knows? Without knowing all them detail, I feel bad for him especially when it seems as though one of the players leading the revolution is Lampard and I can only wonder if his own sour grapes may stem from the fact that he finds it hard to accept that his role on and performances for this team are diminishing and the manager is willing to play (or NOT play) him accordingly. On the one hand, it's great to be a Chelsea fan with a team owner with deep, loose pockets......on the other hand, it's bad as a Chelsea fan that said owner does not understand or is not willing to accept that his role should still be limited to just that. Another problem are some of our fans and their dream-like expectations that, in this twitter and facebook world we live in, can be very damaging to their own causes. If alex ferguson wore held to the same expectations and been met with such impatience as AVB, Scolari,avram grantwere met with, manu just might not have had the success they have had under his reign. Some of us need to relax and let a team grow.
F**k dat, AVB needs to hit the road. Worst performance of the season yet again. All kinda booing was happening at Stamford Bridge today. Massive cheer went up when he finally got rid of Torres. Massive cheer went up when he finally got rid of Mikel. The fans were singing for Lampard to come on since first half (these were all digs at AVB's poor team selection). The fans also booed his decision to take off Mata. The fans booed at half time, at full time and whenever they got a decent opportunity in between.
The Birmingham fans were signing "Jose Mourinho" and we had no comeback....mainly because our fans wanted to sing it too.
Post by: Cocorite on February 19, 2012, 08:37:01 AM
Post by: JDB on February 19, 2012, 08:38:46 AM
Villas Boas have to take some blame though. He never really try to get the players on board. BY all reports he does push an authoritarian, detached attitude. That is a hard sell when yuh 34 years old and coming from Portugal. At least Mourinho had a Champions League.
Also he talking about changing the team but still playing men where they not effective. Mata is not a wide man and he is Chelsea best player. Play him behind Sturridge and let everybody else suck salt. But is a real back and forth with team selection.
The fans have to take blame too. Plenty fans was complaining about Ancelotti when they went through a 11 game rut last year. Nobody was too vex when Ancelotti get fired for having a side in 2nd place one year after winning a double. Say what yuh want about potential, sticking with managers and players. Ancelotti was doing a better job and would do a better job today than Villas Boas.
You could say that Ancelotti have a history of playing with old man squad and if the idea is that Villas Boas younger and will be there for the next 10 years then fine, good luck to yuh but on team performance and management Ancelotti is better than Villas Boas. So it real hard to preach patience now when yuh run a better manager last year.
Post by: lefty on February 19, 2012, 09:32:30 AM
Said it a while ago that Villas Boas have a long road to hoe. He need success to survive and get stronger. Certain players know that if he succeed and get stronger, their position gets weaker and they move closer to being pushed out.:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Villas Boas have to take some blame though. He never really try to get the players on board. BY all reports he does push an authoritarian, detached attitude. That is a hard sell when yuh 34 years old and coming from Portugal. At least Mourinho had a Champions League.
Also he talking about changing the team but still playing men where they not effective. Mata is not a wide man and he is Chelsea best player. Play him behind Sturridge and let everybody else suck salt. But is a real back and forth with team selection.
The fans have to take blame too. Plenty fans was complaining about Ancelotti when they went through a 11 game rut last year. Nobody was too vex when Ancelotti get fired for having a side in 2nd place one year after winning a double. Say what yuh want about potential, sticking with managers and players. Ancelotti was doing a better job and would do a better job today than Villas Boas.
You could say that Ancelotti have a history of playing with old man squad and if the idea is that Villas Boas younger and will be there for the next 10 years then fine, good luck to yuh but on team performance and management Ancelotti is better than Villas Boas. So it real hard to preach patience now when yuh run a better manager last year.
i does still scratch my head about dat whole fiasco from since d russion ups and fire the asst. coach jus so........steups >:(
Post by: Blue on February 19, 2012, 10:48:33 AM
Said it a while ago that Villas Boas have a long road to hoe. He need success to survive and get stronger. Certain players know that if he succeed and get stronger, their position gets weaker and they move closer to being pushed out.:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Villas Boas have to take some blame though. He never really try to get the players on board. BY all reports he does push an authoritarian, detached attitude. That is a hard sell when yuh 34 years old and coming from Portugal. At least Mourinho had a Champions League.
Also he talking about changing the team but still playing men where they not effective. Mata is not a wide man and he is Chelsea best player. Play him behind Sturridge and let everybody else suck salt. But is a real back and forth with team selection.
The fans have to take blame too. Plenty fans was complaining about Ancelotti when they went through a 11 game rut last year. Nobody was too vex when Ancelotti get fired for having a side in 2nd place one year after winning a double. Say what yuh want about potential, sticking with managers and players. Ancelotti was doing a better job and would do a better job today than Villas Boas.
You could say that Ancelotti have a history of playing with old man squad and if the idea is that Villas Boas younger and will be there for the next 10 years then fine, good luck to yuh but on team performance and management Ancelotti is better than Villas Boas. So it real hard to preach patience now when yuh run a better manager last year.
i does still scratch my head about dat whole fiasco from since d russion ups and fire the asst. coach jus so........steups >:(
Ancelotti was much much better than AVB. There has been nothing so far to suggest that AVB is, or will ever be, a tactical genius.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2012, 12:01:30 PM
Said it a while ago that Villas Boas have a long road to hoe. He need success to survive and get stronger. Certain players know that if he succeed and get stronger, their position gets weaker and they move closer to being pushed out.
couldn't agree with you more.
Villas Boas have to take some blame though. He never really try to get the players on board. BY all reports he does push an authoritarian, detached attitude. That is a hard sell when yuh 34 years old and coming from Portugal. At least Mourinho had a Champions League.
DAT shit would never fly, and even if the objective seems to be that Chelsea wants to change their whole style of play, (as it seemed to have been generally percieved) it's not always going to come with instant success and this is where you will need some core group of players on board with you, particulalrly the ones you plan on moving forward with so, yeah, yuh cyah be BOTH aloof and authoritative, too....Jose win the UEFA Cup one year and the CL title the next so my guess is, Abramovich was trying to capture lightning in a bottle in anticipating that AVB would repeat the feat. :laugh:
Also he talking about changing the team but still playing men where they not effective. Mata is not a wide man and he is Chelsea best player. Play him behind Sturridge and let everybody else suck salt. But is a real back and forth with team selection.
Well, at this point, it's purely desperation....when I see Kalou was coming on yesterday... :frustrated:....but then again, maybe he was expecting out of him and Drogba the same kind of partnership they succed with on dey national team.
The fans have to take blame too. Plenty fans was complaining about Ancelotti when they went through a 11 game rut last year. Nobody was too vex when Ancelotti get fired for having a side in 2nd place one year after winning a double. Say what yuh want about potential, sticking with managers and players. Ancelotti was doing a better job and would do a better job today than Villas Boas.
You could say that Ancelotti have a history of playing with old man squad and if the idea is that Villas Boas younger and will be there for the next 10 years then fine, good luck to yuh but on team performance and management Ancelotti is better than Villas Boas. So it real hard to preach patience now when yuh run a better manager last year.
the problem was, as lefty reminded us, that Carlo had clearly lost control of the team to the owner.....he was a dead man walking and his whole demeanour on the sidelines said it, too. To me he looked a resigned figure and I (speaking for myself) knew he was gone, but I wasn't particularly glad to see him go...I wished he could have regained control of the team but ah know it wasn't happening.
It seems the real Stamford Bridge faithul, though, (as well as a select few forumites) put the blame for that 11-game skid squarely on the shoulders of men like Mikel, Cech and Ramires and not necessarily on Carlo.....OR on the players that IMO, was really swingin' on the team's nuts. ::) Now that Mikel is back from injury, he can resume his position of whipping boy to the fans, and of course, Torres can't find his mojo so he can share the load and the Brazilian with the crazy hair is just a klown. Maybe we do need Jose to bring back that self-belief that is his trademark coaching style. Instant success again! :beermug:
Post by: giggsy11 on February 19, 2012, 02:15:57 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 19, 2012, 03:05:50 PM
;D dream situation
Post by: giggsy11 on February 19, 2012, 04:47:58 PM
Post by: Blue on February 21, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
I'm also not convinced by Cahill thus far, but I guess Terry is injured...
Still, I think we can win, Drogba and Mata will mash dem up :beermug:
Post by: elan on February 21, 2012, 01:52:54 PM
Post by: elan on February 21, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
Post by: Blue on February 21, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Speaking to Brazilian newspaper Lance!, Ramires has revealed he would happily leave Chelsea to return to Brazil, if the offer was good enough.
"I even talk to my wife sometimes that if I had a good offer from Brazil, for sure I would come back now, regardless of my situation here," Ramires in an interview with the newspaper.
"I would return, yes. Brazilian football is getting much more attention now, clubs are paying well, and I always say that if I were to return to Brazil it would be to Cruzeiro."
Having praised Villas-Boas' use of him earlier in the interview, the comments will no doubt come as a shock to Chelsea fans, although it must be made clear there is no offer currently on the table.
Full interview (in Portuguese) here: http://www.lancenet.com.br/minuto/Ramires-Selecao-distante-torcedor_0_649135091.html
Post by: Blue on February 21, 2012, 02:12:39 PM
Post by: Peong on February 21, 2012, 03:21:07 PM
Post by: Observer on February 21, 2012, 03:56:10 PM
Napoli teachin Chelsea a lesson today.
Cavani and Lavezzi is a beast! dam 90min Cavani tracking back, defending and clearing balls we.
Post by: mukumsplau on February 21, 2012, 04:00:05 PM
among his other retarded statements he bawl somthing like cannavaro is poor and that is not what u expect from a balon d'or winner...
daz he brodda yuh fool
f**k off
Post by: kicker on February 21, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on February 21, 2012, 05:03:45 PM
Post by: Peong on February 21, 2012, 07:02:58 PM
gary neville is a c**t of a commentator
among his other retarded statements he bawl somthing like cannavaro is poor and that is not what u expect from a balon d'or winner...
daz he brodda yuh fool
f**k off
I heard one of them say that Chelsea could easily score 3 or 4 in the return leg. Must be he self. That was a puzzling comment.
Post by: asylumseeker on February 21, 2012, 11:18:42 PM
Ramires 'would return to Brazil now if there was a good offer' (http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/28576_ramires__would_return_to_brazil_now_if_there_was_a_good_offer_.html)
Speaking to Brazilian newspaper Lance!, Ramires has revealed he would happily leave Chelsea to return to Brazil, if the offer was good enough.
"I even talk to my wife sometimes that if I had a good offer from Brazil, for sure I would come back now, regardless of my situation here," Ramires in an interview with the newspaper.
"I would return, yes. Brazilian football is getting much more attention now, clubs are paying well, and I always say that if I were to return to Brazil it would be to Cruzeiro."
Having praised Villas-Boas' use of him earlier in the interview, the comments will no doubt come as a shock to Chelsea fans, although it must be made clear there is no offer currently on the table.
Full interview (in Portuguese) here: http://www.lancenet.com.br/minuto/Ramires-Selecao-distante-torcedor_0_649135091.html
Down to earth brother. Yuh damn right! Eat yuh regular food. Fire bun a haute cuisine. :thinking:
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 21, 2012, 11:21:28 PM
gary neville is a c**t of a commentator
among his other retarded statements he bawl somthing like cannavaro is poor and that is not what u expect from a balon d'or winner...
daz he brodda yuh fool
f**k off
I heard one of them say that Chelsea could easily score 3 or 4 in the return leg. Must be he self. That was a puzzling comment.
He might have been basing it on the fact that we had some very good looks on goal and men either hit the ball way off target or just lost the ball (like dah time when Ivanovic "dribble" through the side and had an opportunity to lay it orff rel nice fuh Drogba and he loss d ball) at times when the Napoli defence looked kinda shakey. The main thing wrong with his assessment, though, is that Napoli looked like they were just as able to score (more) like Chelsea were. Cech save we a couple time from a washout today. This Napoli side is too talented and they have been playing well for a few seasons well now. We cutarse was booked frm d time we got them in the draw and i don't see us putting the 3 or 4 unanswered goals past them that it would take to advance. It look like some of us Stamford Bridge faithful are being joined with some esteemed company in their delusional dreams of Jose returning and bringing his brand of instant success with this group of players. The way some of these players playing, like they joining them ranks and expecting the same miracles, too.
Post by: Observer on February 22, 2012, 07:32:48 AM
Then again I should not be surprised at the rubbish that come out of his
mouth.
I agree on the statement that Napoli could have scored more. They could have been
2-0 up before Chelski even had a sniff. All said, great game and it makes the return even more interesting.
Post by: Bourbon on February 23, 2012, 09:42:03 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 24, 2012, 04:40:28 PM
Post by: Fantastic on February 24, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
Bless
Post by: Blue on February 25, 2012, 11:52:49 AM
First half started off very brightly, especially Sturridge, but unfortunately the goal never came despite us having what seemed like a million corners. But in terms of positives from the first 45 minutes, Essien provided the back four with much better protection that Meireles has done in recent times and it was really just a case of being patient and waiting for the first goal to arrive.
The goal came from Luiz, who pretty much created and scored the goal himself - a wicked curling shot into the far corner, having started the play back near the half line. From that point on it could have been any number. Lampard and Mata started linking up superbly and we were tearing dem apart with some beautiful flowing football. Both Drogs and Lampard deserved their goals and we could easily have had a few more if Drogba and one or two others (can't remember who) had been less wasteful. It's been a while since we won so convincingly at home while keeping a clean sheet, so I am happy with the result.
Bolton were woeful, they parked the bus until we scored the first goal and after that they didn't really have any plan. Special shoutout to the Japanese winger Ryo though, he looks like he will be a good player (in the usual Arsenal mould - quick, tricky, likes to play intricate passes in the box).
Hopefully AVB will now realise that Lampard and Drogba have to be in the team for us to have any chance of retaining a Champions League spot. Their replacements are just not good enough.
Post by: elan on February 25, 2012, 02:33:55 PM
Anybody seen Dinho? Sadist kinda scarce since he was bussin up he mouth before Man U/Ajax. Looks like all yuh jokes bout Europa league coming to an end withde way yuh shit side playing.
Bless
Wait is Europa Legaue you on about......
Post by: dinho on February 25, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
Anybody seen Dinho? Sadist kinda scarce since he was bussin up he mouth before Man U/Ajax. Looks like all yuh jokes bout Europa league coming to an end withde way yuh shit side playing.
Bless
I here man..
In between work and Carnival didnt have much time in the last few weeks except to drop by and hail allyuh out on Manchester Thursdays.
Doh really drop one liners in this thread so was waiting till i had a lil more time. Doh study we and Europa, as bad as we are Arsenal have been worse and Tottenham going and skin them out tomorrow to give us some breathing room in 4th.
Post by: Blue on February 26, 2012, 09:46:39 AM
gary neville is a c**t of a commentator
among his other retarded statements he bawl somthing like cannavaro is poor and that is not what u expect from a balon d'or winner...
daz he brodda yuh fool
f**k off
lol, I think I'm the only non-ManU fan who think's Gary Neville is a great commentator. I hope he sticks with it.
Post by: dinho on February 27, 2012, 02:54:33 AM
Abramovich
The last time Chelsea undertook a project to implement a new philosophy of football at the club is when they hired Mourinho over 5 years ago. This system has been ingrained in the club since then, since his departure and through a procession of managers in and out of the club. It is the same method of playing that has been there.
This season, the club hired Villas Boas with a mandate to revamp the way that Chelsea play. In my opinion it was the right decision as the system was getting less effective year after year and depended on a group of aging players past their prime. It was the right time for a change.
However the mistake was that for a change as big as this, Abramovich did not support it with the acquisition of players. If he was going and do this he needed to do this properly. To recap, when Mourinho first came to Chelsea with his project he was given:
- Drogba
- Carvalho
- Ferreira
- Essien
- Robben
- Del Horno
- Tiago
- Kezman
... among others. Villas Boas was given:
- Mata
- Meireles
- Romeu
- Lukaku
- Sturridge
Of these players, only Mata supports the philosophy AVB wanted to instill. Meireles is not much more than a utility player, Sturridge was already there and converted to fit the system and Romeu and Lukaku are squad players.
How on earth Abramovich expect AVB to implement such a drastic change using pretty much the same group of players is beyond me.
Andres Villas Boas
In my opinion, AVB's tenure is indicative of every lesson we've ever learnt about the pitfalls of organizational change in the corporate world. I have been less than impressed with the way he has gone about the transition and he needs to take a lion's share of the blame for the situation Chelsea is in now.
AVB simply tried to do too much too fast. As mentioned before, it is one thing if you bring your own players already familiar with your style of playing and methodology. When you taking your project to an existing core you need to secure a buy-in from the major players or you need to shift them out, otherwise yuh find yuhself just peeing in the wind.
The transition needed to be a gradual one bearing in mind that you dealing with players that understand one way of playing for years. Start from the existing foundation and work from there. For example he force a high defensive line onto a defence that does not have the personnel to make it work and pay the price from early culminating in the 5 goal loss to Arsenal, then eventually had to backtrack. Any coach worth his salt knows that when building you build from the defence first then everything else come after. Instead he sacrificed defensive solidarity for attacking play and that get figured out quickly.
In addition, he come with this high and mighty, "my way or highway" mentality which end up alienating him from the players. Now to a point it is necessary to take a firm approach, but how can you tell big men that you have no future at the end of the season and expect them to give you 100% in the interim. You need to at least fool men a lil bit to make them feel like they are central to your plans. At the end of the day, these are the professionals that you depend on for success in the interim.
Aside from that from a management perspective he has been questionable. He has yet to settle on his best team. Is it Lampard of Meireles? Is it Ivanovic or Luiz? Is it Torres or Drogba?
Not to mention that shit he pull benching Cole, Essien and Lampard for the Champions League because of bad mind was the icing on the cake.
The Players
Torres - There is not much new to be said about him. It is the point now where I worry whether he will ever get himself back to a respectable level for the rest of his career. I have never seen a player so low on confidence to the point where he is even afraid to shoot. And they really try with him.
Lampard - Well past his best yet still exerting too much influence over the team. I see ragging AVB in the press about his playing time and his not getting along with the coach which is real low. Every time he get a pass, the time he takes to collect, turn, look up and pass off (usually back or lateral) negates any momentum. He simply no longer fits the team and needs to take a back seat.
Luiz - Somebody need to teach Luiz to defend and stop playing the ass. He could be a great player if he would simply learn to clear the ball in uncertain situations, but he gets caught trying to play too much in tight spots. He is that defender who has too much skill for his own good and to his detriment. If only he could read from the book of Lucio.
Malouda, Bosingwa, Mikel, Kalou - All seem to be regressing and badly. Malouda and Mikel in particular seem to be unable to match the tempo of the rest of the team and seem to be stuck in this slow, methodical way of playing. Bosingwa, while adaptable is a defensive liability and now is not even offering as much as he used to going forward. Kalou still here ???
Conclusion
At the end of the day, the team right now is at a critical juncture. Do they stick it out and put faith in AVB's long term project at the possible expense of Champions League qualification? Or do they cut their losses, bring in a name brand coach in the interim and try to secure CL qualification in the interim by squeezing the last bit of juice out of an ageing squad of professionals?
Sticking with AVB is a massive risk. If Chelsea don't qualify for CL, there is the knock on effect of not being able to attract the calibre of players necessary to support the squad revamp. It also makes it more difficult to get back to a top 4 level club (a la Liverpool) as other teams such as Spurs and City press ahead.
On the other hand, firing AVB means we abandoning the project and we right back to square one with an even older and more disgruntled squad.
Personally, I just hoping that Drogba last swansong is to carry us to the CL so that we could bring in Mourinho in the summer. That would be perfect.
Post by: Sam on February 27, 2012, 05:58:02 AM
Chelsea shouldn't never sell Robben.
De team falling apart because de coach is shit, he does not understand English football or maybe he boss pulling he string.
All these coach after Jose fraid to use Chelsea as a powerful unit or their players, they play a scared and stale football.
They need to sign a real number 10 like Zidane, Latapy or Messi.
De team lacking flair and confidence.
Chelsea should learn a thing or two from Arsenal.
Time to unleash de youths.
Post by: kicker on February 27, 2012, 08:23:37 AM
If yuh had two men who could replace those two as far as ability and influence, Chelsea would be up there with a shot at the title.
Post by: dinho on February 27, 2012, 08:49:51 AM
Omar - a big (and not so philosophical) factor is Essien and Drogba aren't the players they were. At Chelsea's peak, dem two men were heads and shoulders over anything in England...and as much of a team game as football is, two massive players could make a very big difference from their own efforts and because they make everyone around them that much better.
If yuh had two men who could replace those two as far as ability and influence, Chelsea would be up there with a shot at the title.
Yeah agreed..
I specifically didn't mention Drogba because i felt it is a given that this is probably his last year at the top. Yet i think out of everyone he is at least trying regardless.
As for Essien hard to include him in an analysis because he has been injured for most of the season and only just getting back. At his peak he is the most important player on Chelsea's roster.
Post by: Fantastic on February 27, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
Anybody seen Dinho? Sadist kinda scarce since he was bussin up he mouth before Man U/Ajax. Looks like all yuh jokes bout Europa league coming to an end withde way yuh shit side playing.
Bless
Wait is Europa Legaue you on about......
Elan, shout mih after allyuh 2nd leg game nah. Soon allyuh will be watching champion's league just like Man U. :beermug:
Post by: Deeks on February 27, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
I will take David luiz on my side anyday. Yes he made some errors and he does not have blazing speed, but he has skills, he cool and does score goal. Throwback to Francisco Marihno.
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 28, 2012, 04:20:33 AM
Luiz - Somebody need to teach Luiz to defend and stop playing the ass. He could be a great player if he would simply learn to clear the ball in uncertain situations, but he gets caught trying to play too much in tight spots. He is that defender who has too much skill for his own good and to his detriment. If only he could read from the book of Lucio.
I will take David luiz on my side anyday. Yes he made some errors and he does not have blazing speed, but he has skills, he cool and does score goal. Throwback to Francisco Marihno.
:beermug: Yuh ALWAYS have to take the bad with the good with Brazilian defenders. And when you consider that he is supposed to be a wing back and not a stopper, then Chelsea have to accept the bad with the good even more because is they (yet again) who decide to experiment playing a man out of his natural position. And run Alex outta town.
Post by: kicker on February 28, 2012, 08:17:10 AM
DL is versatile across the back, but primarily sits in the hole. If they could polish up that, he will be special. Both he and Thiago Silva at Milan are very promising Brazilian CB's...Thiago more developed than Luiz though.
Post by: kicker on February 28, 2012, 09:22:53 AM
I will take David luiz on my side anyday. Yes he made some errors and he does not have blazing speed, but he has skills, he cool and does score goal. Throwback to Francisco Marihno.
Coincidentally David Luiz's surname is Marinho....
Post by: Bitter on February 28, 2012, 10:45:39 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 29, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
David Luiz eh no wing back...He just wild lol. Brazilian wing backs always seem to be converted wingers (Branco, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Alves, Maicon, Marcelo)... Natural wingers who drop deep so we call them wing backs...
DL is versatile across the back, but primarily sits in the hole. If they could polish up that, he will be special. Both he and Thiago Silva at Milan are very promising Brazilian CB's...Thiago more developed than Luiz though.
My bad.....ah guess ah did geh tie-up because ah did read somewhere before that he had played plenty left-back at Benfica.....but ah now wnet and read up on him some more and it turns out d man started off (as a youth) as a defensive mid and he transition into stopper over the years, including for Brazil.........but he mess up again last night, but thank God Brazil still win in the end......Buth that being said, ah STILL think Chelsea playing him outta position because his instincts and his drive is to go forward, play the ball, play with the ball and take certain risks. Dat is NOT a player you want to have anywhere in your central defense. He need to be out wide, or in midfield. It have enough Joh Terry's and Cahill's to be straight up, no-nonsence stoppers (plus we had Alex) than to be bringing in a player to play stopper who clearly has a little more talent and desire than to be "just" that.
Post by: dinho on March 03, 2012, 10:54:58 AM
Time to buss it.
Post by: doublet750 on March 03, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
Post by: Peong on March 03, 2012, 12:17:51 PM
Let the man build a squad nah.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2012, 03:25:13 PM
A setta deadweight and morale-destroyers in de team and is AVB fault?
Let the man build a squad nah.
I agree with that. I don't think AVB wasn't hired tuh breathe life into Chelsea's aging players or to maintain status quo. I bet he not player some players based on how dey acting. But he needs to shut up and stop giving the press so much food.
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 03, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
Post by: Fantastic on March 03, 2012, 06:38:24 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 03, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Post by: Bitter on March 04, 2012, 07:53:41 AM
Sun, 04 Mar 13:46:00 2012
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04032012/58/premier-league-chelsea-sack-villas-boas.html
Chelsea have sacked manager less than 24 hours after the London club suffered a 1-0 away defeat to West Bromwich Albion on Saturday in the Premier League.
The club said in a statement: "Andre Villa-Boas has parted company with Chelsea Football Club today.
"The board would like to record our gratitude for his work and express our disappointmentthat the relationship has ended so early.
"Unfortunately the results and performances of the team have not been good enough and were showing no signs of improving at a key time in the season.
"The club is still competing in the latter stages of the Uefa Champions League and the FA Cup, as well as challenging for a top-four spot in the Premier League, and we aim to remain as competitive as possible on all fronts.
"With that in mind we felt our only option was to make a change at this time.
"With immediate effect Roberto Di Matteo has been appointed first team coach on an interim basis until the end of the season."
Eurosport
Post by: Blue on March 04, 2012, 08:04:24 AM
Good luck Di Matteo, things can only get better :thumbsup:
Post by: Bitter on March 04, 2012, 08:10:00 AM
Post by: Blue on March 04, 2012, 08:14:26 AM
Short-sighted move. The players running the team now?
Maybe not, Mourinho was in London this weekend :D
Post by: mukumsplau on March 04, 2012, 08:50:45 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 04, 2012, 09:06:11 AM
Chelsea cant continue this sacking of coaches whenever they dont get desired results. Roman should just coach d blasted team himself. steuuuuupppsssssss
this just pissed me off
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2012, 09:15:42 AM
Chelsea cant continue this sacking of coaches whenever they dont get desired results. Roman should just coach d blasted team himself. steuuuuupppsssssss
this just pissed me off
That is alyuh problem right there. The bad performances will continue unless the club finds a long term coach, and not dump every coach after a few bad games. They could start by off loading them light weights alyuh have aka Lamps & co
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 04, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
Chelsea cant continue this sacking of coaches whenever they dont get desired results. Roman should just coach d blasted team himself. steuuuuupppsssssss
this just pissed me off
That is alyuh problem right there. The bad performances will continue unless the club finds a long term coach, and not dump every coach after a few bad games. They could start by off loading them light weights alyuh have aka Lamps & co
ill have to agree. men past they prime.
AVB main mistake is being too nice to dem fellas and giving them a chance. he should have sold them ( with the exception of cech, essien and terry) and just rebuild a younger, faster team
lampard didnt make a note yesterday against west brom, cuz that game played at a tempo that he could keep up
real vex
Post by: lefty on March 04, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on March 04, 2012, 10:14:20 AM
Post by: Bitter on March 04, 2012, 10:33:45 AM
March 4, 2012
By Richard Jolly
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1030900/rip-avb?cc=5901
With the fondness for a soundbite that characterised Chelsea's first Portuguese manager, Andre Villas-Boas tried to coin his own nickname. "Maybe I should be called 'the Group One'," he said on his unveiling as Chelsea manager. Maybe not. Like Villas-Boas himself, it didn't really catch on. More to the point, it proved utterly inaccurate. The group - its most experienced and influential individuals, in particular - decided he wasn't the one.
While images of the beleaguered 34-year-old looking lonely on the touchline abounded before his Sunday sacking, another picture, designed as a gesture of support, told a tale in itself. When Ramires struck at Wolves two months ago, he headed straight to Villas-Boas to celebrate. So did David Luiz, Jose Bosingwa, Raul Meireles, Oriol Romeu and Ashley Cole. The left-back was odd man out and, after being put on the bench against Napoli, presumably regretted his presence in the stage-managed piece of PR. Subtlety, however, has rarely been Chelsea's forte and this was no exception, convincing few that there was unity in the camp.
It was notable partly for who was not there - the cadre of senior players - but also for who was. Cole apart, they were all either Villas-Boas' signings or his fellow Portuguese speakers. Or, in the case of Meireles, both.
But the loyalists were both too few and their efforts too feeble. Luiz can be a liability, Bosingwa is a right-back with a questionable understanding of defending and Meireles has failed to reproduce his Liverpool form. With friends like those, Villas-Boas may not have needed enemies. He made them anyway.
The last two Chelsea managers to succeed, Carlo Ancelotti and Guus Hiddink, were skilled, smiling diplomats with decades of practice at massaging egos. Villas-Boas, in comparison, was the inexperienced technocrat, too rigid in his beliefs and incapable of placating omitted players.
There was a communication breakdown. Villas-Boas favoured the incomprehensible jargon of the PowerPoint generation; his charges - and, in many cases, his peers - preferred a more old-fashioned message.
But while the 34-year-old failed, the fault does not lie solely at his door. The time for change was last summer when he had a mandate and when his reputation was sky-high after an astonishing year at FC Porto. Then he seemed management's wunderkind, not the diminished figure of Chelsea's bleak midwinter. Instead, the club delayed; an owner who can be ruthless in dispensing of unwanted coaches prevaricates and procrastinates rather more when it comes to pensioning off long-serving players.
This time, however, Roman Abramovich's hand was forced; the one occasion he pondered patience, events rendered Villas-Boas' position nigh-on untenable. The unholy trinity of players, supporters and results conspired against him. Normally Abramovich acts before fans have the opportunity to turn on a manager. But not this time, and the dissent that was audible in the 2-0 defeat at Everton illustrated that believers in the 'project', as Villas-Boas insisted on calling it, were decreasing by the day. After Saturday's setback at West Bromwich Albion, they may have only numbered one: an unshaven Portuguese with a penchant for crouching.
The worse Chelsea's results became, the more honest their manager became. Fulsome praise for Albion followed a similar tribute to Everton, the acknowledgement that Manchester City's squad is far superior to Chelsea's and the embarrassing, but accurate, comparison of Fernando Torres to Andriy Shevchenko and Mateja Kezman.
A total of three wins in 12 league games, leaving Chelsea marooned in fifth place, was, Villas-Boas accepted, nowhere near good enough. "Unfortunately the results and performances of the team have not been good enough and were showing no signs of improving at a key time in the season," Chelsea said in their statement. Their analysis was entirely correct.
But having paid £28 million to fire Ancelotti and his backroom staff and lure Villas-Boas from Porto, Chelsea have wasted their money and gone back to square one. The rebuilding job is still bigger for the next manager, who inherits a side with an older spine and which has seen off another manager.
It is becoming the impossible job and, while another huge pay-off should cushion the blow of his sacking, Villas-Boas merits sympathy. Yet if the more generous interpretation of his time at Stamford Bridge can be summed up in four words - right man, wrong time - only the second half of that theory is undoubtedly true. He may have been a poor choice at any point; as a rookie, he certainly was not ready.
It is a tale of player power and the emasculated manager, of high expectations before Chelsea plumbed new depths. Villas-Boas departs Stamford Bridge with a reputation to rebuild and the worst record of any manager in the Abramovich era. In his eight-month reign, 'the Group One' had become very much alone, not so much the mini Mourinho as Chelsea's second Scolari.
Post by: g on March 04, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
Lampard is personally one of my favorite players but he didn't fit in AVB's new system. But on the flip side which other midfielder of the lot is going to come up with the 15 goals and assists in his absence. Mata for all his enterprise not going to pop up in d box to give you that goal output. Combine that with a centre forward that you have to play because of of the price tag that not delivering. The productivity of Malouda non existent. Sturridge was the form striker this season but now that he has also gone cold the goals have dried up.
Terry injury means that the defense was never going to be watertight so they needed the goals. Writing on the wall for the manager to me.
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 04, 2012, 10:00:25 PM
I have a dread tabanca how they sack this man yes and now to read this ^^^^^^^. just add a lil salt to d wound. steups
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2012, 10:14:07 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17250666
Post by: Bakes on March 04, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
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By then he had exiled Nicolas Anelka and Alex, two popular dressing-room characters. They were no longer welcome in the first-team building, could not use the first-team car park and Anelka was even excluded from the silver service Christmas dinner held at the training ground each year.
Say what allyuh want about the players, but that (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2110222/Andre-Villas-Boas-sacked--Roman-Abramovich-blames-players.html#ixzz1oDQQ6d2A) right there is shit.
Post by: Observer on March 05, 2012, 08:46:46 AM
Post by: Peong on March 05, 2012, 09:04:02 AM
Post by: kicker on March 05, 2012, 09:10:26 AM
9 million in severance, not bad. That should tide him over until he could find a good club.
That would tide most people over through retirement...
Post by: Bitter on March 05, 2012, 09:18:43 AM
9 million in severance, not bad. That should tide him over until he could find a good club.
That would tide me over until I dead.
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2012, 09:33:42 AM
9 million in severance, not bad. That should tide him over until he could find a good club.
That would tide me over until I dead.
ent :beermug:
Post by: Toppa on March 05, 2012, 10:40:10 AM
Post by: Mose on March 05, 2012, 10:46:54 AM
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
Adios AVB :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Good luck Di Matteo, things can only get better :thumbsup:
:heehee:
Post by: soccerman on March 05, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
:rotfl: You ain lie dey nah9 million in severance, not bad. That should tide him over until he could find a good club.
That would tide me over until I dead.
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 05, 2012, 02:22:50 PM
QuoteBy then he had exiled Nicolas Anelka and Alex, two popular dressing-room characters. They were no longer welcome in the first-team building, could not use the first-team car park and Anelka was even excluded from the silver service Christmas dinner held at the training ground each year.
Say what allyuh want about the players, but that (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2110222/Andre-Villas-Boas-sacked--Roman-Abramovich-blames-players.html#ixzz1oDQQ6d2A) right there is shit.
Yep, unless dem men was real disruptive to the man's mission and team building, dem is some real draconian measures.
Post by: Bakes on March 05, 2012, 03:05:37 PM
Yep, unless dem men was real disruptive to the man's mission and team building, dem is some real draconian measures.
...and these were all popular players in the locker room, if one is to believe the reports. Imagine how them men fellow soldiers feel watching dat go down, knowing they sweat and battle alongside these men for the club, long before this arriviste coach reach on the scene.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 05, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Yep, unless dem men was real disruptive to the man's mission and team building, dem is some real draconian measures.
...and these were all popular players in the locker room, if one is to believe the reports. Imagine how them men fellow soldiers feel watching dat go down, knowing they sweat and battle alongside these men for the club, long before this arriviste coach reach on the scene.
I always thought that move was madness. Love them or hate them, both had come up big in the past and deserved better. Apart from that Nico (despite his frustratingly nonchalant look at times) has performed way better than Torres. I believe he was certainly still servicable and more valuable to club given his performances. That barring from the clubhouse thing and to make matters worse being blocked from attending the Christmas Dinner was ah dread disrespect. I have respect for what he wanted to do but he used entirely the wrong approach.
Post by: Bakes on March 05, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
Yep, unless dem men was real disruptive to the man's mission and team building, dem is some real draconian measures.
...and these were all popular players in the locker room, if one is to believe the reports. Imagine how them men fellow soldiers feel watching dat go down, knowing they sweat and battle alongside these men for the club, long before this arriviste coach reach on the scene.
I always thought that move was madness. Love them or hate them, both had come up big in the past and deserved better. Apart from that Nico (despite his frustratingly nonchalant look at times) has performed way better than Torres. I believe he was certainly still servicable and more valuable to club given his performances. That barring from the clubhouse thing and to make matters worse being blocked from attending the Christmas Dinner was ah dread disrespect. I have respect for what he wanted to do but he used entirely the wrong approach.
Yeah, that was real scorched earth tactics dey... not sure how he expected to win over the locker room doing shit like that.
Post by: Blue on March 05, 2012, 04:40:36 PM
Yep, unless dem men was real disruptive to the man's mission and team building, dem is some real draconian measures.
...and these were all popular players in the locker room, if one is to believe the reports. Imagine how them men fellow soldiers feel watching dat go down, knowing they sweat and battle alongside these men for the club, long before this arriviste coach reach on the scene.
I always thought that move was madness. Love them or hate them, both had come up big in the past and deserved better. Apart from that Nico (despite his frustratingly nonchalant look at times) has performed way better than Torres. I believe he was certainly still servicable and more valuable to club given his performances. That barring from the clubhouse thing and to make matters worse being blocked from attending the Christmas Dinner was ah dread disrespect. I have respect for what he wanted to do but he used entirely the wrong approach.
Yeah, that was real scorched earth tactics dey... not sure how he expected to win over the locker room doing shit like that.
The man was an imps, and managed to isolate himself from most of the big players with his attitude. How could you bench Lampard (for Meireles??) to win media props when he is the team's top scorer? Why ban Alex and Anelka when you know all of dem fellas are friends? Drogba dedicated his first goal celebration after that drama to Anelka, whose side yuh feel he was on?
Even more importantly, his tactics were $h!t, he basically had one formation the whole time - a 4-3-3 with no proper wingers and even slower than last year. Even Ancelotti used to mix it up sometimes. He was appointed far too hastily after winning one of Europe's least competitive leagues.
The only downside is that our bess physio will probably follow him out the door..bye Eva :(
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Dbwyh8-JAbY/TnroQARQfTI/AAAAAAAAABs/WLmS_0RSrI0/125590564.jpg)
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
Post by: Observer on March 05, 2012, 06:02:27 PM
A source said: "The players could not stand AVB because of his arrogance. But, if anything, they like Roberto even less.
"He's just too *****-sure. They might unite behind him to start with but after a couple of bad results it will be just as bad, if not worse.
"It's a shambles from top to bottom. They just don't have a coach.
"There's no one to take control of training, no one for the players to look to."
Taken from Tribalfootball
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
The fact is all the coaches have moved on and Chelski has regressed. My guess is AVB will also move on and be successful. The media already reporting that the players hate even Di Matteo more than AVB. When will it end.
A source said: "The players could not stand AVB because of his arrogance. But, if anything, they like Roberto even less.
"He's just too *****-sure. They might unite behind him to start with but after a couple of bad results it will be just as bad, if not worse.
"It's a shambles from top to bottom. They just don't have a coach.
"There's no one to take control of training, no one for the players to look to."
Taken from Tribalfootball
Talk that AVB might end up at Inter.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 05, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2012, 07:24:52 PM
The only downside is that our bess physio will probably follow him out the door..bye Eva :(
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Dbwyh8-JAbY/TnroQARQfTI/AAAAAAAAABs/WLmS_0RSrI0/125590564.jpg)
I was checking out this lady, what is she name, i doh really watch alyuh games so, but she catch my eye for a bit. I wonder how she does handle them fellas in training :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: DH you tooo funny!
The only downside is that our bess physio will probably follow him out the door..bye Eva :(
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Dbwyh8-JAbY/TnroQARQfTI/AAAAAAAAABs/WLmS_0RSrI0/125590564.jpg)
I was checking out this lady, what is she name, i doh really watch alyuh games so, but she catch my eye for a bit. I wonder how she does handle them fellas in training :devil:
Post by: Andre on March 06, 2012, 01:47:53 PM
http://deportes.terra.com/futbol/eva-carneiro-sexy-doctora-del-chelsea-que-acelera-tu-pulso,b1734fb3894c5310VgnVCM4000009bf154d0RCRD.html?vgnextfmt=fmtExpandedPics
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Post by: asylumseeker on March 06, 2012, 01:54:01 PM
Post by: Andre on March 06, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2012, 03:27:11 PM
At the end of the day, if I as a professional athlete goin' home every week (net) with upwards of ah hundred thousand pounds and I still need to get my ego stroked on TOP of my diminishing skills and value, then is strokes with a birch I need, not a stroking of my ego. Wasn't it rumoured that Jose also left under some player-undermine shit, too? If that truly was the case, then what coach on this planet is going to please this group of niggas AND Abramovic at the same time......not to mention the boo-birds that attend all the games at Stamford Bridge? "things can only get better".......we go see and fuh how how long, if at all. Let we fuhget West Brom this weekend, is Birmingham we playin' tonight. We should be runnin' over this side like a styrofoam cup in de road.
Post by: doublet750 on March 07, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Dont be surprised if these boys put in a strong push to the end of the season and try to make it seem like it was really ALL AVB fault. smh
regardless tho unless Roberto betters Avram and WINS the UCL he wont be offered the position.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 07, 2012, 01:06:26 PM
That source about the players liking Roberto less is not true.....If anything they like Roberto MORE because he was a player himself at chelsea and knows how it is to be in a pressure cooker atmosphere to perform at a club with expectations....even more so because he unlike avb INTERACTED WITH ALLL HIS PLAYERS....from Cast aways to Unbtouchables.... Kalou to Terry they all spoke to Roberto. Roberto once gae a interview to CFC TV saying that he regularly speaks with the boys who dont start more than those who do because as a former player you know when you are not seeing the field you lose a bit of motivation and that was his task. ROberto has always been a excellent man manager and that is shown from all his clubs he has managed ....even more so last night where rather than put a STRONG starting lineup he put what even the commentators speculated to be a CUP lineup ...giving favor to those said players who usually arent considered the automatic choice and even when they came off the field like kalou did they didnt give their coach a fake shrug they thanked him for the opportunity.
Dont be surprised if these boys put in a strong push to the end of the season and try to make it seem like it was really ALL AVB fault. smh
regardless tho unless Roberto betters Avram and WINS the UCL he wont be offered the position.
This is a component of being a good assistant.
I'm happy for him. At the very least, this gives him a motivational opportunity and time to prepare/consider the next step.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 07, 2012, 01:12:34 PM
What are the main changes that AVB has introduced into Chelsea's play?
He responded:
Ancelotti wanted us to play 4-4-2. We had to stay in a line, and we couldn't leave it to chase the ball or put the opponent under pressure. We had to wait in position to mark the team when they approached. Andre's style is more offensive. We spend a lot of time in training on counter-attacks, tactics, positioning, pressuring the opponent. Everybody is trying to adapt.
Really caught my attention.
Post by: Blue on March 10, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
On the plus side, Terry returned and we looked reasonably comfortable in defense - this Terry/Cahill partnership could be good. Still, Napoli will rinse us out on Wednesday if we play like we did today.
If anyone was wondering how Kenwyne's game was, I think he enjoyed himself....de weather was nice and sunny, there was a nice breeze in de stadium, Kenwyne managed to avoid running around or touching the ball too often...he was able to avoid breaking a sweat or messing up his dreads.....he even got to lime on de bench for the last half hour.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 14, 2012, 01:38:14 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on March 14, 2012, 02:56:58 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 14, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
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Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 14, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
Post by: elan on March 14, 2012, 04:01:42 PM
Post by: elan on March 14, 2012, 04:02:56 PM
Post by: Bakes on March 14, 2012, 04:07:19 PM
Post by: elan on March 14, 2012, 04:09:17 PM
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
Not different from anyone else/team, really.
Post by: elan on March 14, 2012, 04:10:34 PM
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Meanwhile, manager John Terry gives some coaching advice from the touchline.
Post by: Bitter on March 14, 2012, 04:12:15 PM
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
So a normal game then?
QuoteMeanwhile, manager John Terry gives some coaching advice from the touchline.
Someone will have to pull them fellas aside for a quiet word. Yuh cyah expose the truth so.
Post by: Bakes on March 14, 2012, 04:13:01 PM
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
Not different from anyone else/team, really.
Yes, I suppose his reputation is no different either.... everybody else has been equally criticized.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 14, 2012, 04:15:23 PM
Post by: Jumbie on March 14, 2012, 04:19:03 PM
if only spurs cud get they facking act together.
blues fans.. enjoy!
Post by: lefty on March 14, 2012, 04:20:00 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 14, 2012, 04:20:47 PM
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
Ah know you not talkin' about the forearm/elbow to his head that he get from the defender, right? Allyuh men is rel ass out here yes.
Post by: dinho on March 14, 2012, 04:25:16 PM
(http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01384/Drogba13_jpg_1384307cl-8.jpg)
ROMAN ABRAMOVICH GIVE THIS MAN A NEW 2 YEAR CONTRACT IN THE MORNING!!!
What a performance from a true, true champion.
What a performance from Chelsea.
Big, big f**king side!!
And as for Giggsy, DHW and the shit talker manure fans...
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 14, 2012, 04:26:41 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 14, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
(http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01384/Drogba13_jpg_1384307cl-8.jpg)ROMAN ABRAMOVICH GIVE THIS MAN A NEW 2 YEAR CONTRACT IN THE MORNING!!!
What a performance from a true, true champion.
What a performance from Chelsea.
Big, big f**king side!!
And as for Giggsy, DHW and the shit talker manure fans...
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Dat rell cold brudda :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: davidephraim on March 14, 2012, 04:29:05 PM
(http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01384/Drogba13_jpg_1384307cl-8.jpg)ROMAN ABRAMOVICH GIVE THIS MAN A NEW 2 YEAR CONTRACT IN THE MORNING!!!
What a performance from a true, true champion.
What a performance from Chelsea.
Big, big f**king side!!
And as for Giggsy, DHW and the shit talker manure fans...
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
HaHa! Tell Dem is de Big Chelsea War Machine Passin Thru
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 14, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
Post by: STEUPS!! on March 14, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
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What a game. Havent seen those guys play with so much passion in a while
Post by: Blue on March 14, 2012, 05:23:47 PM
Post by: Toppa on March 14, 2012, 05:41:27 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on March 14, 2012, 06:05:02 PM
Post by: Sam on March 14, 2012, 06:43:23 PM
Ah love Mata but I feel he did not play his normal game today.
Sturridge does waste to much balls, but he does try hard and does make some decent runs, but very predictable in his runs.
David Luiz does scare me in defence, he does work real hard and make some good saves and then de next minute he mistake prone.
Ramires is ah boss player but he need more confidence on the ball, he does want to get ride of it to fast.
Essien run out of gas today, but he, Terry, Cole, and de rest of de team real buss they ass today.
Ivanović and Lampard play some real intelligent ball.
Drogba is ah king.
I like how Chelsea play but they go need to fill up that defence next rounds cause when Napoli was on top of they game, Chelsea defence was very suspect....
Cahill, Bosingwa, Mikel, Malouda, Kalou and Ferreira need to get healty fast.
Ah dying to see Torres find back he confidence.
Post by: D.H.W on March 14, 2012, 06:58:40 PM
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
WTF , dry so stueps >:(
Post by: Toppa on March 14, 2012, 07:05:58 PM
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
WTF , dry so stueps >:(
:D
Post by: lefty on March 14, 2012, 07:07:03 PM
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
WTF , dry so stueps >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: giggsy11 on March 14, 2012, 07:16:11 PM
I just pray we can avoid drawing Man United in the quarters!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
WTF , dry so stueps >:(
Doh worry DH-hold yuh fire. We go get tuh wok the goat on dem! After the City game!
Post by: Bakes on March 14, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
Ah know you not talkin' about the forearm/elbow to his head that he get from the defender, right? Allyuh men is rel ass out here yes.
The fact that you could even say with a straight face that Drogba get a "forearm/elbow" to his head" I think makes clear who the ass in this thread is.
http://www.youtube.com/v/2GS8l2r-i9k
Minutes later he conned the ref again, by faking another hit to the face... which you not surprisingly deem legitimate. As he so memorably put it... "eets a f**king disgwayce"
Post by: Bakes on March 14, 2012, 09:04:35 PM
Bakes you have one of the best diving divas in Suarez so lay off de Drogs nah! :D
I eh go defend Suarez... he does go down too easy and love to embellish... but nah dred, Drogba in a league by heself. He musse think this is FINA, not FIFA.
Post by: elan on March 14, 2012, 10:17:54 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2012, 12:56:46 AM
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
Ah know you not talkin' about the forearm/elbow to his head that he get from the defender, right? Allyuh men is rel ass out here yes.
The fact that you could even say with a straight face that Drogba get a "forearm/elbow" to his head" I think makes clear who the ass in this thread is.
http://www.youtube.com/v/2GS8l2r-i9k
Minutes later he conned the ref again, by faking another hit to the face... which you not surprisingly deem legitimate. As he so memorably put it... "eets a f**king disgwayce"
Chelsea might end up advancing.. but Drogba is a real disgrace with this diving dred.
Ah know you not talkin' about the forearm/elbow to his head that he get from the defender, right? Allyuh men is rel ass out here yes.
The fact that you could even say with a straight face that Drogba get a "forearm/elbow" to his head" I think makes clear who the ass in this thread is.
http://www.youtube.com/v/2GS8l2r-i9k
Minutes later he conned the ref again, by faking another hit to the face... which you not surprisingly deem legitimate. As he so memorably put it... "eets a f**king disgwayce"
I never even saw this play during the game, asshole, not until now. I was talking about a play in particular where he did "legitimately" get a forearm/elbow to his head, so pardon me, but if that makes me the "...ass in this thread..." I will gladly hold your title for you for this nanosecond that I do......but since yuh have time as a idle liverpool fan to be pulling ssssssssssso much video footage (of a 120-minute game, no less) out yuh rusty mudder c**t (while not defending suarez) why not dig a little deeper and pull out some liverpool footage and compare the behaviour of the two players to really see who is "...in a league by he self" as you gleefully put it. Suarez starting to look like the second coming of cristiano ronaldo to the EPL and you have nerve to want to come here runnin' yuh mouth. Have a tiny bit ah f**kin' shame nuh?!
Post by: injunchile on March 15, 2012, 05:54:13 AM
Post by: Bitter on March 18, 2012, 11:14:20 AM
AVwho? :devil:
Post by: Blue on March 18, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
Fun game today, it was only Leicester but it was end to end stuff. Great formation from Di Matteo, the 4-2-3-1 worked excellently today with Mata in the middle. The Leicester defence couldnt really cope wid anything, whether it was trickery from Mata and Sturridge, or long balls over the top for Torres to run on to. They did score a bess goal as a consolation prize though, no way Cech could have saved that bullet.
Torres was on a different level to the Leicester defence (as any Chelsea striker should be). They could not match his pace, movement or even his desire. Two goals and two assists was the least he deserved. To be honest if this was the old Torres he would have had 4 or 5 but he was still laying off gilt-edged chances when it looked easier to score. Hopefully he takes confidence from this performance into his next outing.
The vibe at Stamford Bridge has definitely changed....was great for the fans to finally see Torres score, having backed him throughout his drought (me not included). We have a tough run coming up now...City then Spurs then Benfica, all in the space of seven days...but at least Di Matteo is giving us a chance.
Post by: doublet750 on March 19, 2012, 06:42:26 AM
STudge needs to learn to square more rather than go for goal but i kinda understand how it feels he still have the mentality of a Striker and young as he is he still has that naievity that he could make it happen ...end of the day though i am glad to see that he has seen the field so much this year he serves as a example to mcecharan and kakuta as to what they can achieve once you prove in a top league that you deserve first team football.
what ah turnaround to the season it would be if Di Matteo could pull off the FA CUP and a UCL final appearance/WIN ..cause honestly speaking as much as i respect AVB he just was one too young too soon and doing too much..
Post by: dinho on March 19, 2012, 07:33:09 AM
I just hoping that they can ride this crest all the way to 4th place, an FA Cup final and a CL final appearance and then wheel and come again and do the thing properly in the summer...
No wool getting pull over my eyes, Lampard, Malouda, Kalou need to be moved and Mikel needs to be placed on the endangered species list. I personally think Drogba deserves a new 2 year contract but if he pass in the rush i would understand. If he stays he would need to understand that he cannot be the focal point of the team anymore.
We need to get a good young right back, Gregory Van Der Wiel is the top of my list. Also a fast, young creative winger for the left so that Mata can be moved to the center where he is most effective. Would also like to see another winger for the right and give Sturridge his chance as the second striker.
Sturridge offers alot of drive and inventiveness on the right but you can tell its not his natural position and he waaay too greedy for my liking. Torres could have had 4 or 5 yesterday.
Post by: Blue on March 21, 2012, 01:42:37 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2012, 01:49:03 PM
Game kicking off soon. Not surprised that Torres is starting, we will need Drogba to be fresh for Spurs on the weekend. Do not like our formation (4-3-3), Ramires shouldn't be playing wide right and Mikel is useless, Essien should have started. Guess we not really planning to score.
Ramires' energy and work rate affords the coach to play him anywhere on the field as a midfielder, it doh matter. Mikel will play his defensive mid no worse than Essien has been for this team for the past 3 years and if Lampard is starting....well, he need to do something (and ah doh mean score a penalty either, unless it decides the game) more than he has for the last 5 or 6 months.
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
Post by: Blue on March 21, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
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Post by: kaliman2006 on March 21, 2012, 03:42:04 PM
:banginghead: WTF CHELSEA
;D :devil:
Still not over. As it stands, the title decider will still be played at the Eastlands on April 30.
Post by: Peong on March 21, 2012, 03:45:31 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2012, 03:48:48 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
Tevez pass and Nasri control and finish, that make meh drool.
it was wicked....but Lampard hadda stay wit he runner....he hesitate on Nasri and dem sqaure inches was all he needed.
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2012, 03:58:56 PM
Post by: Toppa on March 21, 2012, 04:02:24 PM
Aye what is torres real purpose? stueps
lol
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2012, 04:10:10 PM
I didnt expect Chelsea to win or anything but in that situation leading 1-0 after 78 minutes and being fairly organised I am quite upset how easily they blew it
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2012, 04:21:11 PM
Aye what is torres real purpose? stueps
They had him as the lone striker up front....that is not Torres strength, especially with Chelsea's style of play.....Even Drogba came on and was ineffective but Torres was workin' too hard goin' back and defending and havin' to take on too many defenders from all the way in the midfield to be really effective today. mancity had us on our heels for most of the game....
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
Post by: Hebaldo on March 21, 2012, 07:30:29 PM
Post by: injunchile on March 22, 2012, 05:57:34 AM
Time for the golden handshake.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 22, 2012, 07:32:07 AM
Well The writing is on the wall- We need to clean stables-Mikel,Malouda, Lampard. Essien had their day .
Time for the golden handshake.
Allyuh leave my boy alone eh! He eh goin' a dam place and he still young so he doh need be grouped with this bunch for the reasons they need be phased out. Ah feelin' it fuh Essien because he came here with such great expectations but he is just too injury-prone for this league. He is a talented player and a class act, but he just can't get into a season-long rhythm as we need from him. Ah want to add Bosingwa to the group....he is too much of a defensive liability to be makin' all dem runs up d right side.....and, as much as I have grown to love and respect Ashley Cole (since Ro Ro nearly make 'im hyperextend he knee in '02) ah watchin' meh eye on him because ah find he startin' to make more and more mistakes dat he didn't used to make and he seem to be goin' back to he angry-ish ways. Like he eh happy at Chelsea no more.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 22, 2012, 09:47:16 AM
Well The writing is on the wall- We need to clean stables-Mikel,Malouda, Lampard. Essien had their day .
Time for the golden handshake.
Allyuh leave my boy alone eh! He eh goin' a dam place and he still young so he doh need be grouped with this bunch for the reasons they need be phased out. Ah feelin' it fuh Essien because he came here with such great expectations but he is just too injury-prone for this league. He is a talented player and a class act, but he just can't get into a season-long rhythm as we need from him. Ah want to add Bosingwa to the group....he is too much of a defensive liability to be makin' all dem runs up d right side.....and, as much as I have grown to love and respect Ashley Cole (since Ro Ro nearly make 'im hyperextend he knee in '02) ah watchin' meh eye on him because ah find he startin' to make more and more mistakes dat he didn't used to make and he seem to be goin' back to he angry-ish ways. Like he eh happy at Chelsea no more.
When all yuh appointing Terry as manager?
Post by: elan on March 22, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Aye what is torres real purpose? stueps
They had him as the lone striker up front....that is not Torres strength, especially with Chelsea's style of play.....Even Drogba came on and was ineffective but Torres was workin' too hard goin' back and defending and havin' to take on too many defenders from all the way in the midfield to be really effective today. mancity had us on our heels for most of the game....
Drogba came on the and the whole pace of the game changed. Everything was faster, and Chelsea started finding a directional attack. Also Torres could not deal with the bullying by Richards and Toure. Drogba came on and minced Richards right away.
RDM got his tactics correct to a point and Chelsea did what they had to do, that is frustrate Silva out the game, allowing him no opportunities to play his passing game behind the back line. After he (Silva) came off and Drogba came on and with the defensive midfielders we had on the field we should have gone into the 4-3-3 formation and press back at City we did not.
Lampard, Essien et al kept dropping, and with that many players joining a back line that late in the game confusion as to marking responsibility will always ensue. RDM should have pushed Lampard higher, with Essien in behind him, bring Drogba Central and Let Mata drift wide, introduced Sturridge and play from their. When Silva went off City Started their wide game and we should have adjusted.
Another problem CFC had yesterday was we had no grimey defenders, With Cole, Cahill, Bosingwa and Luiz making up the back four we had NO Tacklers, a reason Essien was playing so deep to make tackles and not worry about making passes to much, just break up plays and let the back four pick up the balls. And exercise in hiding the soft defense we had out there yesterday.
Post by: Hebaldo on March 22, 2012, 10:22:21 AM
But I do think Chelsea do miss JT in that sense of missing the grimey defending that he does bring to the game.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 22, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
Aye what is torres real purpose? stueps
They had him as the lone striker up front....that is not Torres strength, especially with Chelsea's style of play.....Even Drogba came on and was ineffective but Torres was workin' too hard goin' back and defending and havin' to take on too many defenders from all the way in the midfield to be really effective today. mancity had us on our heels for most of the game....
Drogba came on the and the whole pace of the game changed. Everything was faster, and Chelsea started finding a directional attack. Also Torres could not deal with the bullying by Richards and Toure. Drogba came on and minced Richards right away.
RDM got his tactics correct to a point and Chelsea did what they had to do, that is frustrate Silva out the game, allowing him no opportunities to play his passing game behind the back line. After he (Silva) came off and Drogba came on and with the defensive midfielders we had on the field we should have gone into the 4-3-3 formation and press back at City we did not.
Lampard, Essien et al kept dropping, and with that many players joining a back line that late in the game confusion as to marking responsibility will always ensue. RDM should have pushed Lampard higher, with Essien in behind him, bring Drogba Central and Let Mata drift wide, introduced Sturridge and play from their. When Silva went off City Started their wide game and we should have adjusted.
Another problem CFC had yesterday was we had no grimey defenders, With Cole, Cahill, Bosingwa and Luiz making up the back four we had NO Tacklers, a reason Essien was playing so deep to make tackles and not worry about making passes to much, just break up plays and let the back four pick up the balls. And exercise in hiding the soft defense we had out there yesterday.
I don't think Torres s designed to deal with the kinda bullying that richards and toure does dish out and being the lone striker in a Chelsea setup......is only Drogba could handle dat and on any given day, if he mood eh right, he eh dealin' with it, either. I think the manager shoulda always go with 2 strikers from the start of the game because even without Terry, the back 4 still did well enough to handle the pressure but even so, once the game started and Ivanovic had to come off for Bosingwa, is no way, RDM was goin' with more than 1 striker. Silva mighta gotten frustrated but nasri was enjoyin' he self whole game but at least they were contained. Essien really did have a poor showing, though, because, hand ball aside, he DID have opportunities in the open field to distribute the ball and gave it away on a couple of occasions.....wasn't as terrible as the pass Lampard made to Balotelli, but it sure didn't help, either. I also wouldn't go as far as to call JT "grimey".....he's just a hard-nosed English defender. "Grimey" have a kinda negative connotation to it....
Post by: giggsy11 on March 22, 2012, 11:35:21 AM
Aye what is torres real purpose? stueps
They had him as the lone striker up front....that is not Torres strength, especially with Chelsea's style of play.....Even Drogba came on and was ineffective but Torres was workin' too hard goin' back and defending and havin' to take on too many defenders from all the way in the midfield to be really effective today. mancity had us on our heels for most of the game....
Drogba came on the and the whole pace of the game changed. Everything was faster, and Chelsea started finding a directional attack. Also Torres could not deal with the bullying by Richards and Toure. Drogba came on and minced Richards right away.
RDM got his tactics correct to a point and Chelsea did what they had to do, that is frustrate Silva out the game, allowing him no opportunities to play his passing game behind the back line. After he (Silva) came off and Drogba came on and with the defensive midfielders we had on the field we should have gone into the 4-3-3 formation and press back at City we did not.
Lampard, Essien et al kept dropping, and with that many players joining a back line that late in the game confusion as to marking responsibility will always ensue. RDM should have pushed Lampard higher, with Essien in behind him, bring Drogba Central and Let Mata drift wide, introduced Sturridge and play from their. When Silva went off City Started their wide game and we should have adjusted.
Another problem CFC had yesterday was we had no grimey defenders, With Cole, Cahill, Bosingwa and Luiz making up the back four we had NO Tacklers, a reason Essien was playing so deep to make tackles and not worry about making passes to much, just break up plays and let the back four pick up the balls. And exercise in hiding the soft defense we had out there yesterday.
I don't think Torres s designed to deal with the kinda bullying that richards and toure does dish out and being the lone striker in a Chelsea setup......is only Drogba could handle dat and on any given day, if he mood eh right, he eh dealin' with it, either. I think the manager shoulda always go with 2 strikers from the start of the game because even without Terry, the back 4 still did well enough to handle the pressure but even so, once the game started and Ivanovic had to come off for Bosingwa, is no way, RDM was goin' with more than 1 striker. Silva mighta gotten frustrated but nasri was enjoyin' he self whole game but at least they were contained. Essien really did have a poor showing, though, because, hand ball aside, he DID have opportunities in the open field to distribute the ball and gave it away on a couple of occasions.....wasn't as terrible as the pass Lampard made to Balotelli, but it sure didn't help, either. I also wouldn't go as far as to call JT "grimey".....he's just a hard-nosed English defender. "Grimey" have a kinda negative connotation to it....
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Post by: D.H.W on March 22, 2012, 12:45:49 PM
Post by: Hebaldo on March 22, 2012, 02:43:42 PM
Post by: dinho on March 22, 2012, 03:04:44 PM
I cah wait for United to get licks from City again boy..... Is because Man Utd men is cant keep their mouth shut is why people hate that side so much inno
Man Utd men have been refreshingly quiet since they colleck 6 at home from City and since Basel knock dem out of Europe..
Is only now they ketch a lil length and making a play for the title that them termites starting to come out the woodwork.
Yuh know how long i aint see a "Glory, Glory" on my FB feed?
Trust me, i know manure men only holding dey tongue to see if Chelsea get knock out of CL or come 5th to start up the noise again. Plenty men was let down by the Napoli loss.
They in for disappointment though.
Post by: Hebaldo on March 22, 2012, 03:09:44 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 23, 2012, 08:12:26 AM
All this setta ole talk to say one thing, alyuh is shit. Stueps, is not rocket science yuh know.
Allyuh geh 6 in allyuh kakahole from dem buh we is shit ent?!! :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on March 24, 2012, 04:35:21 AM
The real objective was always to mash up Spurs today and Benfica on Tuesday - Man City would have been an unlikely bonus. Drogba, Sturridge and Terry will definitely be back in the first XI today and I am expecting de atmosphere to be immense, even though its a lunchtime kickoff. If Spurs manage to beat us today fair play to them cuz we not gonna make it easy.
Post by: Bitter on March 24, 2012, 08:21:43 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on March 24, 2012, 08:28:38 AM
Post by: Hebaldo on March 24, 2012, 09:41:50 AM
Post by: Blue on March 25, 2012, 05:21:31 AM
Our men of the match were Cech and Cahill, without them we would have been in serious trouble.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 25, 2012, 06:07:31 AM
Awful game yesterday, great atmosphere at Stamford Bridge but the team wasn't good enough and probably deserved to lose. Spurs weren't that great either but we never really threatened them. We fell apart completely when Torres came on for Essien...from that point onwards we had no possession and Spurs had chance after chance. Can't see us getting 5 points back on Spurs now, UEFA Cup here we come.
Our men of the match were Cech and Cahill, without them we would have been in serious trouble.
....so what do you think was the problem this time? It certainly wasn't the lineup, so we cyah blame useless Mikel and Torres only came on with 14 official minutes left in the game so up until that point, the preferred lineup had a whole 76 minutes to beat up un a Spurs team that is listing on the home stretch to port.....shouldn't be the the coach's tactics this time, either because up until this point, RDM seems to have a better grasp of coaching this team than the previous one(s)/ Allyuh shoulda still start booing. Dat mighta wake dem up.
Post by: dinho on March 27, 2012, 12:30:09 PM
CechColeTerryLuizFerreira :oMeirelesMikelRamiresMataTorresKalou :banginghead:Post by: Blue on March 27, 2012, 12:43:46 PM
Somebody tell Di Matteo to pass the kushumpeng.... Wtf??
Similar side and formation to how we played versus Leicester. It is a 4-2-3-1, not a 4-3-3 - Mata will be in de middle, Kalou on de left, Ramires on de right. I like the 4-2-3-1, just hope Ferreira can cope, cant remember de last time he played. Torres and Meireles played very well together last time out, fingers crossed.
Post by: Blue on March 27, 2012, 02:18:42 PM
Post by: Blue on March 27, 2012, 02:46:40 PM
Some big performances tonight:
David Luiz was massive tonight, 10/10, de man was mashin up Benfica like Leonidas in 300
Torres was also very good...his passing game has been great for some time now (and he showed it again with the assist for Kalou) but his threat as a centre forward is beginning to return now that he has decided to take a few more shots...for the first time all season I was glad to see him in the starting lineup and even though he eh score he was very effective.
Shoutout to Mikel for an assured performance alongside Miereles, he looked like a top player tonight.
Truth is Benfica couldnt really defend and perhaps we could have had a couple more goals, but I happy with that result.
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
Post by: elan on March 27, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
stueps
What was de score from alyuh game?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 27, 2012, 03:42:37 PM
stueps
What was de score from alyuh game?
you rell f**k up eh?! :rotfl:
Post by: Toppa on March 27, 2012, 04:20:01 PM
stueps
What was de score from alyuh game?
lol
DHW yuh walk into that one. Stay clear ah de people dem thread.
Post by: FireBrand on March 27, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
Somebody tell Di Matteo to pass the kushumpeng.... Wtf??
That had to be the same type ah weed Einstein used to smoke. ;D
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2012, 06:17:27 PM
stueps
What was de score from alyuh game?
lol
DHW yuh walk into that one. Stay clear ah de people dem thread.
Doh worry they luck must run out sometime, ill will be waiting :devil:
Post by: Daft Trini on March 27, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 28, 2012, 01:35:54 AM
1-0, excellent result and I expect us to rinse out dis side next week.
Some big performances tonight:
David Luiz was massive tonight, 10/10, de man was mashin up Benfica like Leonidas in 300
Torres was also very good...his passing game has been great for some time now (and he showed it again with the assist for Kalou) but his threat as a centre forward is beginning to return now that he has decided to take a few more shots...for the first time all season I was glad to see him in the starting lineup and even though he eh score he was very effective.
Shoutout to Mikel for an assured performance alongside Miereles, he looked like a top player tonight.
Truth is Benfica couldnt really defend and perhaps we could have had a couple more goals, but I happy with that result.
Have not seen the game still but I eh surprised by this result. Getting Benfica in the draw was a bit of a blessing for Chelsea. RDM had to balance a hectic rotation off the hectic schedule of the past week so the only surprise to this lineup for me was the inclusion of the long forgotten Fereira. What most of Mikel's (overblowing) critics don't seem to understand is that his role is defensive midfielder. "Defensive" being the operative word. He gives elasticity to the team's defensive scheme in slowing down or breaking down the opponents' attacks. When on Chelsea have possession he is ever present with the team's lateral movement of the ball ALWAYS being a presence to who ever has the ball as an option to receive the ball and make an outlet pass. He is not easily dispossessed. he makes very good passes to the forwards and his work rate across the field is phenomenal. But I realize long time some ah y'all men doh see dat. Y'all does want to say he's a shithong based on his lack of participation in a more forward attacking role while I have offered time and time again, that Essien (when healthy) makes many more runs into Chelsea's offensive third and hasn't proven to be any more proportionately valuable than Mikel, so what is it that makes Mikel a "shithong" as allyuh like to say? He is young and has the ability to play a more forward role in midfield so don't expect Chelsea to let him go just yet.
Torres has always been playing better for the team in the CL than in the league, especially in the scoring department. Maybe chelsea should just designate him as an out and out winger because the few times he has had to deliver the ball from that right channel into the box, he has done a far better job than practically every body else on the team. Even Lampard seems to have lost his ability to consistently get his crosses past the opponents' first defender. Well, at least under AVB he did. Kalou is getting all the praise in the English press, but, from what I see so far of the highlights, it was Ramires and Torres that really made that goal happen.
David Luiz will be exactly what he is: a Brazilian defender. As I stated before, I will take his good with whatever bad he brings any day. In the end, I have faith that the former will outweigh the latter. They just mentioned on Sky Sports that DiMatteo benched some of the same players that AVB benhed against Napoli. so we know now that "team selection" wasn't necessarily the problem.
Post by: elan on March 28, 2012, 08:37:40 AM
Doh worry soon chelski will be playing ONLY league ball with the rest of us...
After we lose in the what Quarter finals? SemiFinals? wow, I will be so saddened. ::)
Post by: Blue on March 31, 2012, 09:51:51 AM
Post by: doublet750 on March 31, 2012, 10:22:03 AM
comfortable game today until the 75th when complacency sneak in but good finish .....bit upset with the FA and their decision regarding the Semfinal for the FA cup though
Post by: Blue on April 04, 2012, 03:52:32 PM
Post by: elan on April 04, 2012, 04:15:36 PM
Post by: dinho on April 04, 2012, 04:18:44 PM
Chelsea had more than enough chances to put that game to bed today lacked a killer instinct... And it could have easily gone wrong in then end. Nervy last 10 minutes of the game.
Have to be more clinical and professional like this and that level of performance not going to cut it against Barcelona.
Kalou is still an immense waste of break no matter what Di Matteo thinks. I does cringe anytime i see him get the ball. Cannot believe he get a full game sweat while Drogba waiting to come on since about the 70th minute.
Onto the semis. We could take Barca!
Post by: giggsy11 on April 04, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
Back from the game....apart from the nervous ending it was pretty straightforward. Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation. We never left first gear and seemed to be more focused on staying fresh for this weekend. We will definitely have to step up the defensive performance against Barca or they will mash us up lol.
You might want to watch the match on tv first after you watch it in person, before rushin tuh comment! To call a side shit that played against you with ten men is pretty short sighted of you. They kept the pressure on thru out the match and still had a chance in injury time. If Benfica had 11 men don't think you would be on here crowing/bleatin your usual one sided shit!
Post by: Blue on April 05, 2012, 12:35:22 AM
Back from the game....apart from the nervous ending it was pretty straightforward. Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation. We never left first gear and seemed to be more focused on staying fresh for this weekend. We will definitely have to step up the defensive performance against Barca or they will mash us up lol.
You might want to watch the match on tv first after you watch it in person, before rushin tuh comment! To call a side shit that played against you with ten men is pretty short sighted of you. They kept the pressure on thru out the match and still had a chance in injury time. If Benfica had 11 men don't think you would be on here crowing/bleatin your usual one sided shit!
if u say so, but my view was that:
they spent the whole game diving and arguing with the ref...from 10 minutes into the game I had told my pardna that there was no way they were gonna end the game wid 11 men.
they had obviously practiced set pieces but just didnt have the skill to execute
they could not defend at all (and the penalty they conceded looked like Ashley Cole had been hit by a truck, it was ridiculous)
more importantly, we have a game on saturday and another on monday, both must wins...we really didnt want to waste any energy last night. which is why we took of Terry and Mata. In Champions League it is not about beating teams 5-0 (unless you're Barca)...it is about getting through.
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2012, 05:07:54 AM
Post by: doublet750 on April 05, 2012, 07:31:54 AM
Shit team!
WHICH ONE OF THE TEAMS IN THE QUARTERS YUH CALLING SHIT?? THE ONLY ENGLISH SIDE THAT WAS IN THE QUARTERS AND SEMIS...OR THE TEAM THAT KNOCK OUT MAN Ure TO GET TO THE KNOCKOUT RoUNDS :beermug:
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2012, 08:35:15 AM
:devil:
Post by: elan on April 05, 2012, 09:07:54 AM
Back from the game....apart from the nervous ending it was pretty straightforward. Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation. We never left first gear and seemed to be more focused on staying fresh for this weekend. We will definitely have to step up the defensive performance against Barca or they will mash us up lol.
You might want to watch the match on tv first after you watch it in person, before rushin tuh comment! To call a side shit that played against you with ten men is pretty short sighted of you. They kept the pressure on thru out the match and still had a chance in injury time. If Benfica had 11 men don't think you would be on here crowing/bleatin your usual one sided shit!
:bs: men lining up and missing sitters. It could have easily been 5-0 at best 3-0. Don't come with they had a chance to score, Ramires miss 2 on the goal line, whatutalkinbout.
Post by: kicker on April 05, 2012, 12:20:04 PM
Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation.
That's horseshit. Both games were keenly contested - and Benfica actually controlled decent portions of each game - They also got results home AND AWAY against EPL table toppers Man U who are over 20 points ahead of Chelsea in the league.
I doh usually like to get into the pointless league bragging conversations - but when I hear people describe the EPL proponents as highly delusional, statements like yours come to mind. Imagine the two top EPL teams (by a subtantial margin) went crashing out of both the CL and the Europa league and the only EPL team left in the CL is grinding out victories.....but somehow their CL quarterfinal counterparts would be scraping relegation if there were in the EPL lol :-\
There was a 3-season stretch where the EPL represented itself by far better in the CL than any other league, but that was 3 seasons ago - EPL worshippers sniff that like crack and still high 3 years later...In the last 4 seasons or so we seeing a ridiculously huge gap opening up in the Spanish league partly because of anti-competitive practices related to TV rights etc...It's not good for the league... but the football standard in Spain is still very good outside of the top two - but I suppose to the EPL men, Atl. Bilbao who beat Man U home and away, and are 11th in the liga table (were 5th at the time) would be battling relegation in the EPL too. I really dunno what about the EPL makes fans of their teams so narrow-minded about football outside of England.
Post by: Marcos on April 05, 2012, 12:48:41 PM
Post by: Toppa on April 05, 2012, 01:06:39 PM
Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation.
That's horseshit. Both games were keenly contested - and Benfica actually controlled decent portions of each game - They also got results home AND AWAY against EPL table toppers Man U who are over 20 points ahead of Chelsea in the league.
I doh usually like to get into the pointless league bragging conversations - but when I hear people describe the EPL proponents as highly delusional, statements like yours come to mind. Imagine the two top EPL teams (by a subtantial margin) went crashing out of both the CL and the Europa league and the only EPL team left in the CL is grinding out victories.....but somehow their CL quarterfinal counterparts would be scraping relegation if there were in the EPL lol :-\
There was a 3-season stretch where the EPL represented itself by far better in the CL than any other league, but that was 3 seasons ago - EPL worshippers sniff that like crack and still high 3 years later...In the last 4 seasons or so we seeing a ridiculously huge gap opening up in the Spanish league partly because of anti-competitive practices related to TV rights etc...It's not good for the league... but the football standard in Spain is still very good outside of the top two - but I suppose to the EPL men, Atl. Bilbao who beat Man U home and away, and are 11th in the liga table (were 5th at the time) would be battling relegation in the EPL too. I really dunno what about the EPL makes fans of their teams so narrow-minded about football outside of England.
This is the only time I've ever seen you get 'heated' on here! CONGRATULATIONS!
Also, thank your lucky stars that you didn't listen to the Sky Sports commentary after the Chelsea-Benefica match.
Oh the PL better than La Liga, Real Madrid would have never scored over the 100 goals so far if they'd been playing in England, oh Chelsea is the only team left that can give Barcelona problems...*face palm*
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
oh Chelsea is the only team left that can give Barcelona problems...*face palm*
LOL , i cant wait to see that match
Post by: Marcos on April 05, 2012, 01:41:53 PM
Post by: kicker on April 05, 2012, 02:00:50 PM
IMO Anyone in the CL final 4 can win it...when it comes down to this stage, good match prep and a fair amount of luck go a long way.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Back from the game....apart from the nervous ending it was pretty straightforward. Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation. We never left first gear and seemed to be more focused on staying fresh for this weekend. We will definitely have to step up the defensive performance against Barca or they will mash us up lol.
You might want to watch the match on tv first after you watch it in person, before rushin tuh comment! To call a side shit that played against you with ten men is pretty short sighted of you. They kept the pressure on thru out the match and still had a chance in injury time. If Benfica had 11 men don't think you would be on here crowing/bleatin your usual one sided shit!
if u say so, but my view was that:
they spent the whole game diving and arguing with the ref...from 10 minutes into the game I had told my pardna that there was no way they were gonna end the game wid 11 men.
they had obviously practiced set pieces but just didnt have the skill to execute
they could not defend at all (and the penalty they conceded looked like Ashley Cole had been hit by a truck, it was ridiculous)
more importantly, we have a game on saturday and another on monday, both must wins...we really didnt want to waste any energy last night. which is why we took of Terry and Mata. In Champions League it is not about beating teams 5-0 (unless you're Barca)...it is about getting through.
But maybe you didn't know or you don't care to know but Benfica was playing with a make shift defense. Same way your side could have scored more so could have Benfica and you didn't have a make shift defense. But to label them as an EPL relegation in my opinion is short sided on your part. Benfica healthy and with 11 men would eat up Chelsea and fat Frank in the middle. So take your win and be happy you moving on.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2012, 02:35:51 PM
EPL actually getting worse in my opinion.
Yes it has. How awful is it, if my United side which has no midfield to speak off could end up 20 points better than the third, fourth and fifth place teams? And has scored more goals them them.
Post by: elan on April 05, 2012, 06:15:20 PM
EPL actually getting worse in my opinion.
Yes it has. How awful is it, if my United side which has no midfield to speak off could end up 20 points better than the third, fourth and fifth place teams? And has scored more goals them them.
EPL is shyte, Man Utd has two ways to play and they still beating teams with shyte strategy. If you want to play and watch total football, watch La Liga, Then switch to the Bundesliga.
Post by: Blue on April 06, 2012, 02:02:18 AM
Benfica had a good few chances but on the whole they were a sh!t side...if they were a Premiership side they would be lower half of the table, probably fighting relegation.
That's horseshit. Both games were keenly contested - and Benfica actually controlled decent portions of each game - They also got results home AND AWAY against EPL table toppers Man U who are over 20 points ahead of Chelsea in the league.
I doh usually like to get into the pointless league bragging conversations - but when I hear people describe the EPL proponents as highly delusional, statements like yours come to mind. Imagine the two top EPL teams (by a subtantial margin) went crashing out of both the CL and the Europa league and the only EPL team left in the CL is grinding out victories.....but somehow their CL quarterfinal counterparts would be scraping relegation if there were in the EPL lol :-\
I was merely comparing Benfica with other teams we have played at the Bridge recently...and, hand on heart, I could say that they weren't any better than Bolton. Stoke were better than them. Yes, they had chances and yes, they had one or two decent skillsmen (Aimar in particular) but it was obvious that we were doing no more than we had to and would always beat them. Yuh probably eh realise but our schedule for the next couple of weeks is:
Wigan (H) Saturday
Fulham (A) Monday
Spurs (N) Sunday
Barca (H) Wednesday
Arsenal (A) Saturday
Barca (A) Tuesday
7 big, big games in 17 days. 2 games against the best team in the world and 3 London derbies away from home. 4 if you count QPR on the weekend after the Barca game. That is a hard, hard few weeks and we cannot afford to be playing flat out when we dont have to...that is why we was playing in first gear. Of course Benfica controlled the game, they were the team wid something to prove...we were 2-0 up against a side wid 10 men, we were just playing to cross the finish line wid minimal effort. A Chelsea side playing at their best would have murdered Benfica. Napoli were a much, much better side than dem.
Post by: kicker on April 06, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
And Napoli ent "much much" better than Benfica - Not at all. If you watch Serie A, you're likely to agree with me. Anyhow, IMO the outcome/run of play in any given match is largely a function of the match ups and tactics, and I think Benfica matched up pretty well against Chelsea (who was obviously the better side when you add everything up -they won both games). Benfica wasn't good enough, but I doh think Chelsea was cruising in the manner that you imply...anyways.....
Post by: elan on April 06, 2012, 12:58:50 PM
Post by: dinho on April 06, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
I was merely comparing Benfica with other teams we have played at the Bridge recently...and, hand on heart, I could say that they weren't any better than Bolton. Stoke were better than them. Yes, they had chances and yes, they had one or two decent skillsmen (Aimar in particular) but it was obvious that we were doing no more than we had to and would always beat them. Yuh probably eh realise but our schedule for the next couple of weeks is:
Wigan (H) Saturday
Fulham (A) Monday
Spurs (N) Sunday
Barca (H) Wednesday
Arsenal (A) Saturday
Barca (A) Tuesday
7 big, big games in 17 days. 2 games against the best team in the world and 3 London derbies away from home. 4 if you count QPR on the weekend after the Barca game. That is a hard, hard few weeks and we cannot afford to be playing flat out when we dont have to...that is why we was playing in first gear. Of course Benfica controlled the game, they were the team wid something to prove...we were 2-0 up against a side wid 10 men, we were just playing to cross the finish line wid minimal effort. A Chelsea side playing at their best would have murdered Benfica. Napoli were a much, much better side than dem.
Ryan dread.. I myself does have a tendency to be biased to Chelsea when I ready but I can't agree with yuh assessment at all. Maybe it look different live than on TV, but from what I saw that Benfica side was giving us some worries.
Yuh argument that Chelsea come to play a Champions League 2nd leg in 2nd gear to conserve for harder games to come is a non-starter. Definitely not with a slender 1-0 away lead to protect. Yuh cant justify playing with yuh food there.
In terms of technical ability they were superior by some measure in midfield across both legs. Aimar, Javi Garcia and Gaitan level of control on the ball and touches was beyond anything that Mikel, Lampard, Ramires could offer. In fact look even worse in the 2nd leg with Lampard (instead of Meireles) there because they was just knocking the ball around him.
We were basically sitting back, inviting pressure and then letting them bring the game to us and then hitting them on the break. We were also superior in the physical challenges and won the aerial battles. But i was impressed by the technical ability and some of the combinations that Benfica side was putting together. Lets not forget that in both legs, they started off brightly and had genuine opportunities. Off the top of my head, in the first leg Cech pull off a miraculous save with his foot and in the second leg Cech tip a shot onto the post. If any of those went in, it would have been a different game.
I for one thought that last 5 minutes of the game after Benfica equalize was nerve wracking. Tired see games where one side throw away a thousand chances only to get poison at the death. Happy to be through.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 06, 2012, 04:42:31 PM
Post by: Blue on April 06, 2012, 04:56:59 PM
Ryan, I haven't seen either of the games against Benfica
lol, den go in yuh bed and sleep.
Post by: Blue on April 06, 2012, 05:04:28 PM
Yuh argument that Chelsea come to play a Champions League 2nd leg in 2nd gear to conserve for harder games to come is a non-starter. Definitely not with a slender 1-0 away lead to protect. Yuh cant justify playing with yuh food there.To me, we switched off once we went 1-0 up and they went down to 10 men. There was no tension after that.
In terms of technical ability they were superior by some measure in midfield across both legs. Aimar, Javi Garcia and Gaitan level of control on the ball and touches was beyond anything that Mikel, Lampard, Ramires could offer. In fact look even worse in the 2nd leg with Lampard (instead of Meireles) there because they was just knocking the ball around him.Aimar and Javi Garcia ok, but I dont understand de Gaitan hype, I thought he was ineffective (to be honest I didnt even realise that number 20 was Gaitan until they subbed him).
We were basically sitting back, inviting pressure and then letting them bring the game to us and then hitting them on the break. We were also superior in the physical challenges and won the aerial battles.That is how Di Matteo has set the team up to play - with less possession and faster counter attacks, presumably for Torres' benefit.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 06, 2012, 05:07:13 PM
Ryan, I haven't seen either of the games against Benfica
lol, den go in yuh bed and sleep.
:rotfl: Ah go do dat....but from all acounts, it seem like is you is d one was dreaming.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 07, 2012, 09:35:21 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 07, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
Post by: Cocorite on April 07, 2012, 09:56:37 AM
BTW dais Tallest who put on all that weight in the Wigan box dey?
Post by: giggsy11 on April 07, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
Post by: doublet750 on April 07, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
If United have the refs in their pockets then Chelski have the lines people in theirs!
u make this after one dotish referee gifted us a goal??...in comparisson to the countless gifts howard webb and co give united? ....the ONLY other linesman decision in recent history i can think of that aided us was LAST YEAR against totenham...other than that what basis do you form your opinion on ? (not arguing just trying to hear your premises) ....
credit to wigan to me they were good opponents and really didnt eerve to lose but as we have seen in the past when the big sides NEED to win sometimes they pull it off in the dying moments
i Will say though in the PL and a few other games our suad has looked lethargic with the passing and thus allowed lesser opponents to come into games we should be winning comfortably...making hard work of what should be formalities has become a customary trait of our blue side
Post by: giggsy11 on April 07, 2012, 11:16:00 AM
If United have the refs in their pockets then Chelski have the lines people in theirs!
u make this after one dotish referee gifted us a goal??...in comparisson to the countless gifts howard webb and co give united? ....the ONLY other linesman decision in recent history i can think of that aided us was LAST YEAR against totenham...other than that what basis do you form your opinion on ? (not arguing just trying to hear your premises) ....
credit to wigan to me they were good opponents and really didnt eerve to lose but as we have seen in the past when the big sides NEED to win sometimes they pull it off in the dying moments
i Will say though in the PL and a few other games our suad has looked lethargic with the passing and thus allowed lesser opponents to come into games we should be winning comfortably...making hard work of what should be formalities has become a customary trait of our blue side
Nope-offsides goals against United for one and others. Just tryin tuh neddle the Chelski fans who always like to point out refs does make calls for United. But it seems like Chelski seem tuh get the calls of the lines person more times than not. :beermug: ;D
Post by: Blue on April 07, 2012, 03:29:37 PM
I haven't seen the replay but from where I was sitting it looked like every man jack was way offside for our first goal (and reading some of your posts it sounds like that was the case). I really eh know what the linesman was looking at lol...very United-esque.
It was great to see Torres attempt a spectacular volley rather than just squaring the ball, just a shame it didnt count as his goal.
Man of the Match was Al Habsi, he was amazing...
Two things:
Sturridge was booed off today. Personally I've seen him play worse but as usual his performance was littered with aimless dribbling, lax ball possession and poor finishing...the crowd was fed up.
Luiz looked like he might have been carrying an injury at the final whistle....hopefully it was nothing serious, we have too many big games coming up to lose another centre back.
Post by: STEUPS!! on April 07, 2012, 04:29:01 PM
Poor performance today but at least we got the 3 points....under AVB there is no chance we would have gotten an injury time winner.
I haven't seen the replay but from where I was sitting it looked like every man jack was way offside for our first goal (and reading some of your posts it sounds like that was the case). I really eh know what the linesman was looking at lol...very United-esque.
It was great to see Torres attempt a spectacular volley rather than just squaring the ball, just a shame it didnt count as his goal.
Man of the Match was Al Habsi, he was amazing...
Two things:
Sturridge was booed off today. Personally I've seen him play worse but as usual his performance was littered with aimless dribbling, lax ball possession and poor finishing...the crowd was fed up.
Luiz looked like he might have been carrying an injury at the final whistle....hopefully it was nothing serious, we have too many big games coming up to lose another centre back.
why d fack some of allyuh chelsea fans still callin up avb name in allyuh mouth. he got fired right, which is what allyuh wanted, so ease off d man now.
with that being said. i agree with the rest of your post ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 07, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: doublet750 on April 08, 2012, 12:09:07 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 08, 2012, 03:12:14 PM
GIGGSY!!!....WHAT WE wAS SAYIN BOUT REFS AND UNITED??? lol like dey see we convo and say nah chelsea get their own help let we help united now
Right! They were awful this weekend and both United and Chelsea benefitted!
Post by: Bitter on April 09, 2012, 12:34:04 PM
Post by: triniairman on April 09, 2012, 02:07:52 PM
They benefited again today against FulhamGIGGSY!!!....WHAT WE wAS SAYIN BOUT REFS AND UNITED??? lol like dey see we convo and say nah chelsea get their own help let we help united now
Right! They were awful this weekend and both United and Chelsea benefitted!
Post by: elan on April 09, 2012, 02:16:31 PM
They benefited again today against FulhamGIGGSY!!!....WHAT WE wAS SAYIN BOUT REFS AND UNITED??? lol like dey see we convo and say nah chelsea get their own help let we help united now
Right! They were awful this weekend and both United and Chelsea benefitted!
:bs: same tackle that Cahil get the Yellow for, gwan with that talk.
Post by: doublet750 on April 09, 2012, 02:26:44 PM
Post by: elan on April 09, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
i am TIRED of Torres now :frustrated: :-\
Can't play him as a lone striker, it's not his game.
Post by: doublet750 on April 09, 2012, 02:40:26 PM
this chelsea team just isnt good enough.
another note is how longggggg it takes fran lampard to move the ball on smh
europa league football should be a dose of reality
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2012, 02:41:48 PM
Post by: elan on April 09, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
so who was his stiker partner at liverpool????? ....we dont play to HIS game period we lack capable passes but still a striker needs to adapt if you are worldclass........and as i say this fulham scores
this chelsea team just isnt good enough.
another note is how longggggg it takes fran lampard to move the ball on smh
europa league football should be a dose of reality
Yeah, he would play more off center, here they are forcing him to stay central more.
Post by: elan on April 09, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
Post by: doublet750 on April 09, 2012, 02:53:16 PM
Post by: Jah Gol on April 09, 2012, 02:59:58 PM
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2012, 03:07:45 PM
Barca will thump this side.
:devil: :beermug:
Post by: Daft Trini on April 09, 2012, 08:16:44 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 09, 2012, 10:07:07 PM
Clattenburg gift all yuh ah penalty, leh meh hear all yuh bump all yuh gum....
...If yuh right, that would be TWO gifts we receive this long weekend....what yuh probably didn't notice is that them "gifts" were taken direcly from manu stockpile of gifts and given to us.....allyuh done receive so many, yuh didn't and wouldn't even notice it was missing. ::)
Post by: elan on April 09, 2012, 10:32:38 PM
Clattenburg gift all yuh ah penalty, leh meh hear all yuh bump all yuh gum....
Explain how is that a gift?
Post by: davidephraim on April 10, 2012, 02:23:23 AM
Post by: doublet750 on April 12, 2012, 07:08:38 AM
The ONLY way is if we played like we did against Napoli at home in both legs .
there is no LW who can force alves to stay home like he had to 3 years ago when he faced Malouda and Cole .....and whilst sturridge or ramires can get down the right with relative ease what they do when they get there what they do with the ball has not been too productive as of late.
Not saying there is NO Hope but just hope that this truly is our season where we have the little bit of luck needed to get key results and finish with a great season.
Post by: Andre on April 12, 2012, 09:36:09 AM
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Post by: Blue on April 12, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
the new chelsea home kit. look like a blue version of the real madrid away for this year.
It looking decent...not sure why we have de right to be rocking gold trim unless by some miracle we win de champs league. dis ting was leaked since Feb though, maybe they thought we might win back then.
Post by: Andre on April 12, 2012, 02:12:11 PM
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2005/07/12/2_450x338.jpg)
Post by: Blue on April 12, 2012, 02:50:43 PM
it remind me of the chelsea centenary kit. that was one of the best ever. this is the adidasized version.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2005/07/12/2_450x338.jpg)
yeah but we was champs then
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 13, 2012, 06:40:26 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 11:03:21 AM
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 11:29:24 AM
Torres coulda not score that same way... ::)
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 11:46:06 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 12:00:54 PM
Beware of the Drog!
No better player in the EPL with his back to goal. Beautiful goal. Cyah be too hard on Cudiccini on that one.....NOBODY was expectin' dat move or dat strike. Drogba is de only person in the stadium or watching on tv, that knew what was coming. :D
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
That was no goal, and also a foul by Terry
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 12:13:12 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 12:14:41 PM
And here come the calls for goal-line technology...
That was no goal, and also a foul by Terry
don't agree that it was a foul by JT, they say he was entitled to go for the ball and he went for it....but it certainly wasn't a goal.
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 12:14:45 PM
Hell officials behind the line like in the CL would have caught that.
Look they get the goal back!
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 12:17:26 PM
And Cech get bail out by the goal. That would have been a red otherwise.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 12:18:12 PM
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
Post by: Observer on April 15, 2012, 12:32:07 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 12:34:24 PM
Gallas get used by Drogba on the first goal! as a matter of fact Gallas look like the weakest link, pulling real stones
Just as I was thinking what a great job Ledley King is doing under his circumstances....you would think HE would be the weakest link in that defense but you're right. Is Gallas.....he probably does still sleep in a Chelsea shirt! :D
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 12:35:30 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 12:41:12 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 12:41:33 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 12:44:04 PM
Post by: Observer on April 15, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
Big applause for Ramires. The so-called Stamford Bridge faithful was doggin' this man and tryin' to run him outta town before they even give the man a chance to settle in a t the club. He is now cinsitently one of the team's top performers. :applause: :applause:
Agreed, Ramires had a monster game. It does help that Bale going forward left space for him to operate.
Why Brad didn't start in goal? Arry saving him for which important match again? Arry is a backside!
Wondering the same thing myself.
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 12:51:54 PM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 01:19:40 PM
Post by: Blue on April 15, 2012, 03:39:36 PM
Why Brad didn't start in goal? Arry saving him for which important match again? Arry is a backside!
Cudicini is (was) Spurs cup keeper
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
Big applause for Ramires. The so-called Stamford Bridge faithful was doggin' this man and tryin' to run him outta town before they even give the man a chance to settle in a t the club. He is now cinsitently one of the team's top performers. :applause: :applause:
Agreed, Ramires had a monster game. It does help that Bale going forward left space for him to operate.
I eh so sure it woulda matter nuh. Dah boy love to run! lol!
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 15, 2012, 06:32:19 PM
That free kick was headed to row zead as usual if it hadn't gone off Parker's back! Spurs lacking something extra- some of their players don't make the best football decisions when they have the ball.
nah I eh tink so...yuh being a little harsh dey....it look like it was going kinda sraight at Cudiccini but the deflection was one of those inch-perfect ones. He really didn't have much chance. If Brad Freidel woulda get it it mighta be on the virtue of him being a little taller and having a little more reach. Brad is a boss, though!
Post by: doublet750 on April 17, 2012, 09:36:13 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2012, 09:45:45 AM
Post by: Blue on April 18, 2012, 12:28:52 AM
Post by: davidephraim on April 18, 2012, 03:06:26 AM
Bunker up, and take alyuh chances, that's the only way. Playing open is a death sentence.
tru talk dat!
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 18, 2012, 03:15:09 AM
Should be a very entertaining game.. a 2 goal advantage is necessary ... seeing 3-1 Chelsea
Cech,.. Ivanovic, Terry, Cahill, Cole .. Ramires Lampard Mikel .. Mata Drogba Moluda
Essien injured? If he isnt then him for Mikel
Post by: dinho on April 18, 2012, 08:01:12 AM
good luck today fellas...I've always said the only team that can give Barca a problem are yall.. United could have If we had Hargo and Fletch fit... we are both similar with our strength in play but we allowed them to play as we dont use a pressing game
Should be a very entertaining game.. a 2 goal advantage is necessary ... seeing 3-1 Chelsea
Cech,.. Ivanovic, Terry, Cahill, Cole .. Ramires Lampard Mikel .. Mata Drogba Moluda
Essien injured? If he isnt then him for Mikel
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Essien fit, but has been seriously under par since his comeback... Mikel actually looking more solid in the hole.
I just hope Di Matteo don't jump out himself and start Torres and leave Drogba on the bench. Start Torres in the Arsenal game to come.
Drogba is our only chance. He is hungry for trophies in what is looking like his last year at Chelsea and he is a problem for that Barca back line. Feed the Drogs!!
We could do this.
Post by: Bitter on April 18, 2012, 08:29:19 AM
What Chelsea must do is play a dirty, disruptive and downright dull game, smother Barcelona in the midfield and hurt their best players. It's not the time for prettiness...
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Chelsea have got no chance. Barcelona are far too good for them over two legs.
A Spanish win is inevitable. Barca are football magicians. Messi is a secular god.
Yeah, yeah. We know. But football cares nothing for such wisdom. It doesn't care who is or isn't the greatest side ever to walk the earth or who is the most tedious to watch, both of which may well be Barcelona. There is always a way to lose every game, there is always a way to win any game.
To win this one, Chelsea need to learn from the unfashionable past.
The modern orthodoxy is that Barcelona are so brilliant that you do little more than stand back and admire them as they destroy you; applaud as they run in five. They are the purveyors of the holy football which must be worshipped. Right. So Chelsea have two choices - they can give up or they can fight.
There used to be a way to beat superior sides like this. It didn't always work but it often did. It is now much harder to pull it off and it will offend many people in a way which it never would have done in the past.
Here it is.
Some of you will hate me for even suggesting it, I know.
Hurt them.
Studs down the Achilles, tread on his feet, break a toe if you can, grab his bollocks, elbow in the ribs, knee in the throat. All accidental, all covert, all nasty as hell. It's okay, hurting Messi or Xavi or Iniesta is not like punching the baby Jesus in the face. They'll get over it.
If needs must, get a man sent off in injury-time for a bad tackle - make sure you bring on someone useless like Obi Mikel to deliver it; anything to put their best men out of the next game.
Chelsea don't have to deliver any career-ending assaults, just hurt enough players badly enough to reduce their impact in the first leg and put them out of the second. Is it legitimate as a tactic? It is if you get away with it.
Injuring a side's best players was never a tactic anyone in the past directly admitted to but it was understood by everyone that this is what would happen. Some men built careers on it. Season after season Liverpool would send Graeme Souness in as a hatchet man - not that he needed any encouragement, the desire to savage a player was always near the surface for Souey. In the first few minutes he'd perform a full-body tackle on the opposition playmaker like a heat-seeking missile, exploding the man in a profusion of limbs, mud and blood. It was cruel and heartless but also, a bit bloody brilliant. And the history books don't show Liverpool won all those European trophies because of their ability to hurt the key opposition players, they merely show their success.
The trouble is the rules have changed and in 2012 you will get sent off if you even sneeze over someone, so Chelsea need to set about Barcelona in as snidey, nasty and covert way as possible. Out-snideying and cheating Barcelona is tough to do, admittedly. Rarely has such a good side been such a team of whiney cheats, especially in big important games. But Chelsea can use this to their advantage.
Precisely because most of the Barcelona side are ruthlessly despicable cheaters, the referee will expect that. So when they go to ground clutching a part of their body that until a couple of seconds previously worked perfectly, there's a good chance the referee won't take their protestations seriously. If they are hurt deviously enough, the officials will merely think it is just Mr Sergio Biscuits et al up to their usual tricks.
They need to be cold and calculating though. No heat of battle stamping or kicking. That's no use. They need to do it professionally, out of view of the referees and apparently accidentally. They need to plan times to do it, who to hit and how to hit them. They should do most of the damage in the second half so the officials can't be alerted by half-time footage.
All players must know where to kick, tread and stamp for maximum damage and minimal risk. It takes bravery because they might get hurt. It is not a foolproof plan but it is a plan and it can work and Chelsea is the only team
with the physicality and the football quality to achieve it.
But inflicting injury is not enough. They also need to score. Here too, the past can help them. Forget trying to play football against Barcelona. Don't try to be classy or clever.
Boot it long and boot it long often. Get some bloody snow on it. There's no shame in doing that even though the purists will hate you for it, especially if you win. Hurting them and beating them with the long ball will be like the devil taking over the church for some.
Chelsea is the only top English club that can and do play the long ball with any success. It's harder to do than many imagine. You need the men to do it. Small nippy forwards are no good. You need a massive b**tard who can roll like a tank towards the goal. As the magnificent Didier Drogba proved on Sunday, a big hoof down the pitch to him can be the most dangerous ball played. Critics of the long ball say it is boring and brutal and of course it often is. But that's because it is usually done by poor sides that have no alternative in their armoury. A good side who knows how and when to play it long is a different prospect all together. Was Drogba's weekend goal boring? No it was one of the finest you'll see.
Increasingly, top defenders don't play against the well-played long ball or against a big physical striker who knows how to play the tactic properly. Defenders are far more used to it being played on the deck, around and through them. The long ball is so out of fashion amongst the best sides that it will be the greatest challenge Chelsea can give to Barcelona.
What Chelsea must not do is try and play football. Everyone who tries that gets torn a new one by the Catalans. What they must do is play a dirty, disruptive and downright dull game, smother Barcelona in the midfield and hurt their best players. It almost worked for Holland in the World Cup final. Indeed, with better finishing, it would have worked. Their breathtaking display of brutality might have found few fans but that's not relevant. This is not a beauty contest or some moral debate. 'By all mean necessary' should be the Blues' motto.
Post by: D.H.W on April 18, 2012, 08:37:27 AM
But i think Barca have the tools to dismantle Chelsea
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 18, 2012, 02:42:55 PM
well done..only half time though
Post by: davidephraim on April 18, 2012, 02:58:11 PM
CHELSEA WAR MACHINE ROLLIN ON!
Post by: doublet750 on April 18, 2012, 03:05:09 PM
Post by: Toppa on April 18, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 18, 2012, 03:06:45 PM
I wouldnt start Mata..I would go with the same team minus Mata for Moluda and defend bravely and hope Drogba can nick one or score off a set piece and then you always have Torres, Mata and Kalou off the bench to add some firepower should it be needed
Post by: doublet750 on April 18, 2012, 03:10:38 PM
Post by: davidephraim on April 18, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
Davephraim, Lampard?? He was quality on and off the ball today...also everytime he got tackled he didnt roll all over the floor but got up one time and ready to continue the war
I wouldnt start Mata..I would go with the same team minus Mata for Moluda and defend bravely and hope Drogba can nick one or score off a set piece and then you always have Torres, Mata and Kalou off the bench to add some firepower should it be needed
lolo. It's for strategic purposes only not because he had a bad outing. Personally I believe if yuh dig in deep yuh loss. I feel yuh have to go and push dem. man like torres and sturridge pepperin - essien and miereles holdin; Ramirez and mata movin and I'd probably play 442 with whatever variation.
Post by: triniairman on April 18, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
Post by: dinho on April 18, 2012, 03:19:04 PM
Davephraim, Lampard?? He was quality on and off the ball today...also everytime he got tackled he didnt roll all over the floor but got up one time and ready to continue the war
I wouldnt start Mata..I would go with the same team minus Mata for Moluda and defend bravely and hope Drogba can nick one or score off a set piece and then you always have Torres, Mata and Kalou off the bench to add some firepower should it be needed
lolo. It's for strategic purposes only not because he had a bad outing. Personally I believe if yuh dig in deep yuh loss. I feel yuh have to go and push dem. man like torres and sturridge pepperin - essien and miereles holdin; Ramirez and mata movin and I'd probably play 442 with whatever variation.
I think they have to play for a goal in the second leg too, but yuh need to forget that Essien dream.. Have you seen Essien lately?? The man seriously needs a pre-season, Mikel looking like a boss compared to him right now.
Malouda and Sturridge is a good look for the second leg.
Post by: D.H.W on April 18, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
This is the first and last time I'll say this... I wish Chelsea win the CL... Abramovich* need a CL trophy, I does feel sorry for him when he looking all sad at the end of the season trophy less. The other reason is to show that The BPL is still a top league.
Sorry for Chelsea ? stueps. . I can handle them beating barca but not winning the trophy.
Post by: triniairman on April 18, 2012, 03:35:55 PM
nah not Chelsea, just Abramovich... The man does look rell sad, like somebody just steal all his money lol.This is the first and last time I'll say this... I wish Chelsea win the CL... Abramovich* need a CL trophy, I does feel sorry for him when he looking all sad at the end of the season trophy less. The other reason is to show that The BPL is still a top league.
Sorry for Chelsea ? stueps. . I can handle them beating barca but not winning the trophy.
Post by: D.H.W on April 18, 2012, 03:43:06 PM
nah not Chelsea, just Abramovich... The man does look rell sad, like somebody just steal all his money lol.This is the first and last time I'll say this... I wish Chelsea win the CL... Abramovich* need a CL trophy, I does feel sorry for him when he looking all sad at the end of the season trophy less. The other reason is to show that The BPL is still a top league.
Sorry for Chelsea ? stueps. . I can handle them beating barca but not winning the trophy.
LOL , he like instant success. He go suffer more before he win something :devil:
Post by: Blue on April 18, 2012, 04:10:35 PM
Post by: Cocorite on April 18, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Post by: mukumsplau on April 20, 2012, 06:49:31 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576552_381366818574444_212461882131606_1152139_2041647696_n.jpg)
Post by: lefty on April 20, 2012, 07:12:35 AM
;D
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576552_381366818574444_212461882131606_1152139_2041647696_n.jpg)
LOOOOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2012, 07:14:54 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 20, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
Only good thing alyuh have on that team :devil:
Maybe he just wanted some TLC from the trainer! Big fraud!
Post by: lefty on April 20, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
Only good thing alyuh have on that team :devil:and we reach d CL semis what dat sayin bout alyuh x=x-1
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2012, 08:53:30 AM
Only good thing alyuh have on that team :devil:and we reach d CL semis what dat sayin bout alyuh x=x-1
It says we have 3 CL titles , you all have none :heehee:
Post by: lefty on April 20, 2012, 09:11:25 AM
touché ..............still dem three title were won by "good" manu teams, dis years team ent good....... is jus dat everybody shitty dis year too......except for city...... in d earlies.. den dem trip over dey ass too so still x=x-1Only good thing alyuh have on that team :devil:and we reach d CL semis what dat sayin bout alyuh x=x-1
It says we have 3 CL titles , you all have none :heehee:
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2012, 09:36:05 AM
Post by: elan on April 20, 2012, 10:18:33 AM
Only good thing alyuh have on that team :devil:and we reach d CL semis what dat sayin bout alyuh x=x-1
It says we have 3 CL titles , you all have none :heehee:
"Hey boy stop live down inna de past, jus remember when man ah ride harse...."
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2012, 10:56:38 AM
Only good thing alyuh have on that team :devil:and we reach d CL semis what dat sayin bout alyuh x=x-1
It says we have 3 CL titles , you all have none :heehee:
"Hey boy stop live down inna de past, jus remember when man ah ride harse...."
Lol , just study about Barca next week please. And maybe try alyuh best to qualify for CL , next season
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 20, 2012, 10:22:19 PM
Post by: Blue on April 21, 2012, 05:06:21 AM
Chelsea fans are still riding high after the stunning performance against Barca, and that was after a fantastic day at Wembley on Sunday. This week has been surreal.
It's all about Barca on Tuesday now, today's match is an irrelevance.
Post by: Blue on April 21, 2012, 05:25:12 AM
Malouda and Sturridge is a good look for the second leg.
Sturridge against Barca would be disastrous, he does not and cannot defend.
Post by: samo on April 21, 2012, 05:42:33 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 21, 2012, 06:40:29 AM
Post by: Bitter on April 21, 2012, 07:11:10 AM
Barca watching this game closely :devil:
They having trouble sleeping?
Post by: D.H.W on April 21, 2012, 07:31:05 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on April 21, 2012, 09:18:04 AM
Torres is shit , d bitch always falling down or giving bad pass.
Take time. d man is not a physical player. and in that arsenal game, if he made 3 bad passes, he made plenty. if is one thing he does well is distribute the ball and assist.
This is why AVB is a dunce...should never have gotten rid of Anelka and Alex...
why are people stll calling this man's name. you all got what u wanted, he was fired. get off d man back
Post by: lefty on April 21, 2012, 09:47:32 AM
why are people stll calling this man's name. you all got what u wanted, he was fired. get off d man backqueen I for one was seeing where he wanted to go with dat team.....but it was obvious he people skillz was weak on an interpersonal level, not sayin the players didn' do their share of shit.........but dat all centered around his approach in any case ....an it doh help yuh when yuh like dat and dealing with fellas dat is in ah sense part of yuh peer group........
Post by: dinho on April 21, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
Excellent shifts by Bertrand and Romeu.. Essien was good too.
Kalou was shit as usual, and Torres and Sturridge eh say much either, but all in all a fair result.
On to Barca.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 21, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
This is why AVB is a dunce...should never have gotten rid of Anelka and Alex...
I eh go call de man a dunce jes yet because I was willing to wait and see where he eventually was going to take this team.....but I most certainly agree with the rest of your statement.
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
Post by: kicker on April 24, 2012, 11:18:02 AM
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2012, 01:33:37 PM
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2012, 02:05:28 PM
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
The best Champions League game I have ever seen :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Post by: Cocorite on April 24, 2012, 02:41:11 PM
What a goal from Ramires
Allyuh ain't hear the commentator say, "It's Torres"
What a game
After T&T Sweeden and T&T England what a game
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 24, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
Post by: doublet750 on April 24, 2012, 02:52:23 PM
Post by: boss on April 24, 2012, 02:56:34 PM
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2012, 02:59:49 PM
Post by: samo on April 24, 2012, 03:11:56 PM
Post by: injunchile on April 24, 2012, 03:53:19 PM
Post by: STEUPS!! on April 24, 2012, 04:04:18 PM
muh heart burstin right now. all d talks torres gets, he delivered today. so proud of my team
Post by: triniairman on April 24, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
Post by: kicker on April 24, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
On to the big clash tomorrow.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 25, 2012, 05:32:16 AM
Post by: elan on April 25, 2012, 10:03:01 AM
Ramires ... Ramires ... Ramires ;).
de other side ah de pillow
Post by: dinho on April 25, 2012, 10:55:52 AM
How good was Bosingwa, coming on to fill in at right back when Cahill got injured then having to fill in at centre half when Terry got sent off?
How great was Ivanovic throughout the entire game?
How good was Cole locking down the left?
How good was the discipline and defensive positioning of Mikel, Meireles and Lampard?
How good was Ramires, a beauty of a goal and solid filling in at right back.
How great was Drogba?
Kalou... As always constantly raising man blood pressure but at least he track back.
Torres, thanks for neglecting your defensive duties and liming up by the half line.
Bess fellahs, just bess!
Post by: palos on April 25, 2012, 11:05:28 AM
Just how good was Cech in goal repelling everything that came his way.. Especially the slightest of touches to put a Messi shot onto the post.
How good was Bosingwa, coming on to fill in at right back when Cahill got injured then having to fill in at centre half when Terry got sent off?
How great was Ivanovic throughout the entire game?
How good was Cole locking down the left?
How good was the discipline and defensive positioning of Mikel, Meireles and Lampard?
How good was Ramires, a beauty of a goal and solid filling in at right back.
How great was Drogba?
Kalou... As always constantly raising man blood pressure but at least he track back.
Torres, thanks for neglecting your defensive duties and liming up by the half line.
Bess fellahs, just bess!
How tremendously LUCKY were Chelsea? :)
Post by: elan on April 25, 2012, 11:19:20 AM
Just how good was Cech in goal repelling everything that came his way.. Especially the slightest of touches to put a Messi shot onto the post.
How good was Bosingwa, coming on to fill in at right back when Cahill got injured then having to fill in at centre half when Terry got sent off?
How great was Ivanovic throughout the entire game?
How good was Cole locking down the left?
How good was the discipline and defensive positioning of Mikel, Meireles and Lampard?
How good was Ramires, a beauty of a goal and solid filling in at right back.
How great was Drogba?
Kalou... As always constantly raising man blood pressure but at least he track back.
Torres, thanks for neglecting your defensive duties and liming up by the half line.
Bess fellahs, just bess!
How tremendously LUCKY were Chelsea? :)
PALOOOOOOSSSSSS
Post by: Blue on April 25, 2012, 12:10:08 PM
Not that the Premier League matters anymore lol...
Post by: triniairman on April 25, 2012, 03:42:05 PM
Times like this I wish there was a like button hahahaJust how good was Cech in goal repelling everything that came his way.. Especially the slightest of touches to put a Messi shot onto the post.
How good was Bosingwa, coming on to fill in at right back when Cahill got injured then having to fill in at centre half when Terry got sent off?
How great was Ivanovic throughout the entire game?
How good was Cole locking down the left?
How good was the discipline and defensive positioning of Mikel, Meireles and Lampard?
How good was Ramires, a beauty of a goal and solid filling in at right back.
How great was Drogba?
Kalou... As always constantly raising man blood pressure but at least he track back.
Torres, thanks for neglecting your defensive duties and liming up by the half line.
Bess fellahs, just bess!
How tremendously LUCKY were Chelsea? :)
Post by: doublet750 on April 26, 2012, 06:37:56 AM
Times like this I wish there was a like button hahahaJust how good was Cech in goal repelling everything that came his way.. Especially the slightest of touches to put a Messi shot onto the post.
How good was Bosingwa, coming on to fill in at right back when Cahill got injured then having to fill in at centre half when Terry got sent off?
How great was Ivanovic throughout the entire game?
How good was Cole locking down the left?
How good was the discipline and defensive positioning of Mikel, Meireles and Lampard?
How good was Ramires, a beauty of a goal and solid filling in at right back.
How great was Drogba?
Kalou... As always constantly raising man blood pressure but at least he track back.
Torres, thanks for neglecting your defensive duties and liming up by the half line.
Bess fellahs, just bess!
How tremendously LUCKY were Chelsea? :)
lets all admit that to win this competition nowadays yuh HADDA have some sort of luck WITH YOU.....
as for QPR they should be taken lightly especially after claiming the scalps of Arsenal and Tottenham recently ....
Post by: Blue on April 28, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Chelsea agree deal to sign Marko Marin from Werder Bremen
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/28/chelsea-marko-marin-werder-bremen
Chelsea have confirmed that they have agreed a deal to sign the Werder Bremen attacking midfielder Marko Marin.
A fee has been agreed for the Serbian-born Germany international and the deal will be concluded when the transfer window re-opens in the summer. Sky Germany are reporting that Chelsea will pay in the region of €8m (£6.5m) for the 23-year-old.
Marin, who joined Bremen from Borussia Monchengladbach in 2009 and was contracted to the club until June 2013, has already passed a medical in London and will sign a contract in the next few weeks, according to his current club. Speaking ahead of Bremen's Bundesliga match with Wolfsburg today, Marin said he cannot wait to play in the Premier League.
"I had a really good time with Werder together with many great guys here, and I have lots of nice memories, but of course I am looking forward to the challenge of playing in the Premier League with such an established club," he said.
Marin made his Germany debut in 2008 and was part of their 2010 World Cup squad. However, he has spent much of this season on the sidelines due to injury and is not assured of a place in Joachim Low's squad for Euro 2012. He has made just 21 appearances this season, scoring one goal
Bremen's director of sport Klaus Allofs said in a statement: "We have always said that we would be open to talk if any of our players receives a good offer which was also interesting for Werder and we had good talks with the management at Chelsea, so that we were able to reach an agreement quickly. In the coming weeks, we will then deal with the last formalities. We wish Marko all the best for this new challenge."
There have been suggestions that Chelsea may loan striker Romelu Lukaku, signed for £17m from Anderlecht last summer, to Bremen for the 2012-13 season as part of the deal but this has not been confirmed.
Post by: doublet750 on April 28, 2012, 12:32:33 PM
Good buy for CHelsea...young (23) and with bags of ability . good that they got him cheap and quick (6.5mil) hope we can lure Eden Hazaard to the club too
Post by: triniairman on April 28, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
the new ozil? truthfully he was talked about BEFORE ozil in germany.....Ozil was considered a lil less than him when he was at schalke then Ozil joined him at Werder Bremen and Thomas Schaff threw Marin out on the wing and gave Ozil the prefered FREE ROLE and Ozil blossomed...the rest as they say is history.... Marko is a VERY good player he can play on the wings but he is more influential behind the striker in the hole...yes he is a right footed Mata. Injuries hamper him this year but before the rise of Gotze in germany the belief was that Marin and Ozil were the best young creative germans for the manschaft . Not sure if he will make their euro squad but he is quality so i wouldnt be surprised if he was in it.Nice addition to your team. Very good player, he should be able to help you all to finish 2nd or 3rd behind Man.United ;D
Good buy for CHelsea...young (23) and with bags of ability . good that they got him cheap and quick (6.5mil) hope we can lure Eden Hazaard to the club too
Post by: Bitter on April 29, 2012, 06:54:54 AM
4-0 in the 25th minute.
Terry, Sturridge, Torres, Torres
Post by: D.H.W on April 29, 2012, 07:00:48 AM
Post by: Bitter on April 29, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
5-0
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 29, 2012, 07:56:55 AM
torres scoring goals now lol, 4nil I still shocked at d scoreline
Yep, it seems as if Torres has returned to his vintage form.
Nice composed finish to complete his hat trick.
This is a long way from the empty net miss versus Man Utd all those months ago.
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on April 29, 2012, 07:58:38 AM
Post by: D.H.W on April 29, 2012, 08:09:20 AM
Post by: JDB on April 29, 2012, 09:59:37 AM
the new ozil? truthfully he was talked about BEFORE ozil in germany.....Ozil was considered a lil less than him when he was at schalke then Ozil joined him at Werder Bremen and Thomas Schaff threw Marin out on the wing and gave Ozil the prefered FREE ROLE and Ozil blossomed...the rest as they say is history.... Marko is a VERY good player he can play on the wings but he is more influential behind the striker in the hole...yes he is a right footed Mata. Injuries hamper him this year but before the rise of Gotze in germany the belief was that Marin and Ozil were the best young creative germans for the manschaft . Not sure if he will make their euro squad but he is quality so i wouldnt be surprised if he was in it.
Good buy for CHelsea...young (23) and with bags of ability . good that they got him cheap and quick (6.5mil) hope we can lure Eden Hazaard to the club too
Marin is an excellent player. Very good for Chelsea as he can play deep in a midfield two. $0 Million for Modric or 8M for Marin, I will take Marin every day of the week.
Post by: Blue on April 29, 2012, 11:15:12 AM
Great centre forward play by Torres today, Stamford Bridge was almost in disbelief. For once he wasn't trying to be a winger. Its about time he started taking a few shots, hopefully he can do it again against a better team on Wednesday (Newcastle). Sturridge had a terrific first half....he tracked back for most of the game and for once his first option was to pass rather than dribble and he looked superb....maybe he realises that the only way he will get a sweat in one of the cup finals is by being more of a team player.
Moment of the match: Ramires came on to a standing ovation late on thanks to his heroics in Barca...and the previously unheralded player was serenaded to the tune of Guantanamera with "song for Ramires, we need a song for Ramires" :rotfl:
Post by: soccerman on April 29, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
Moment of the match: Ramires came on to a standing ovation late on thanks to his heroics in Barca...and the previously unheralded player was serenaded to the tune of Guantanamera with "song for Ramires, we need a song for Ramires" :rotfl::rotfl: That's the song right right there, you guys don't need to make up anything else :rotfl:
Post by: elan on May 02, 2012, 02:37:21 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2012, 02:37:58 PM
Anyone saw that goal? :o :o :o
Yes lol
Post by: elan on May 02, 2012, 02:38:06 PM
Post by: Observer on May 02, 2012, 02:40:16 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2012, 02:44:20 PM
:applause: :applause:Two of the best goals I have seen this year. Talk about bullet in Chelsea ass.
Hahaha, Chelsea need to win the CL to make it next season
Post by: davidephraim on May 02, 2012, 02:52:03 PM
Post by: boss on May 02, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 02, 2012, 03:34:44 PM
Post by: Cocorite on May 02, 2012, 04:05:04 PM
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2012, 04:10:46 PM
Between Ba and Cisse no team in the world have a chance with them two up front
Let's not get carried away.
Post by: triniairman on May 02, 2012, 04:17:40 PM
Post by: Blue on May 02, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
Ba and Cisse reminds me of Yorke and Cole
They are a fantastic combo, Ba (and Ben Arfa) work tirelessly to get Cisse good chances. Newcastle deserved to beat us today and Cisse was definitely one of the best strikers to visit Stamford Bridge this season....he is lethal. I'd love to see Cisse at Chelsea.
Not really too bothered by the result, its all about the cup finals now, bring on Liverpool.
Post by: fari on May 02, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
Between Ba and Cisse no team in the world have a chance with them two up front
Let's not get carried away.
for real...in any case...ba's goals have dried up but b/c cisse rippin up that kinda deflecting the attention. i guarantee that teams WILL enquire about his services this summer...is like every other goal he scores is a golazo!
Post by: triniairman on May 02, 2012, 04:41:25 PM
Post by: Blue on May 02, 2012, 05:01:32 PM
Between Ba and Cisse no team in the world have a chance with them two up front
Let's not get carried away.
for real...in any case...ba's goals have dried up but b/c cisse rippin up that kinda deflecting the attention. i guarantee that teams WILL enquire about his services this summer...is like every other goal he scores is a golazo!
Ba's goals have only dried up because he is not playing as a centre forward anymore. He is a support player for Cisse. He is not as talented as Cisse but he is still playing well.
Post by: rotatopoti3 on May 02, 2012, 05:27:57 PM
Post by: Bakes on May 02, 2012, 06:08:47 PM
Terrible outting, no creativity whatsoever. :cursing:
Real uninspiring...
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2012, 06:32:42 PM
Between Ba and Cisse no team in the world have a chance with them two up front
Let's not get carried away.
...is like every other goal he scores is a golazo!
kinda remind me of Tony Yeboah from some years back. Damned near every goal that man scored was a golazo. Them two strikes today were pure, pure friggin' magic and one can only tip yuh hat to them. The first goal, yuh could berate the defenders for poor marking, but it was a beautiful goal all the same. The second one? man, there was absolutely NOTHING that anybody on that Chelsea team coulda done to stop it. Great frggin' goal!! :applause: :applause:
Post by: elan on May 02, 2012, 09:05:17 PM
Terrible outting, no creativity whatsoever. :cursing:
Real uninspiring...
No.........real shyte...........................and no excuses either
Post by: Observer on May 03, 2012, 06:17:44 AM
Whare is Chelsea plan B :devil:
Post by: dinho on May 03, 2012, 06:32:13 AM
Cisse is rhell trouble yes.
All the games i see, the man have a way he does just swing he foot wild and is bullet on target. The first few goals he score i thought it was luck, cause sometimes the ball running across the goal hard and it look like he just pelt a foot behind it... Or sometimes he falling away at some weird angle and spin and swing a foot and is goal.
Before yesterday, i was saying that something about him remind me of a Van Nistelrooy.. Look like an average player until he get into the 18' yard box, then he just have a knack for scoring... But them 2 goals yesterday was simply out of this world, especially the 2nd. Demon!
Post by: injunchile on May 05, 2012, 03:34:39 PM
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2012, 04:27:38 PM
Not a great performance today, but say what. I really didn't understand why Liverpool played into our hands for the first hour, giving us all the possession and allowing us to slow the game down to practically walking pace in first half. Some of our players have been running on fumes these last few games and had Liverpool come out with a high tempo from the start they could easily have worn us down over the course of the game *shrug*.
Now the players can have a couple of weeks off before Munich with the knowledge that the season hasn't been a total failure. Niceness.
Some of my pictures from today's game:
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0013.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0043.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0042-Copy.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0032.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0087-Copy.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0110.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0102.jpg)
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0042-Copy.jpg)
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 05, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
Nice pictures. Eva !!!!!!!
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0042-Copy.jpg)
No wonder Drogba try ah ting with the *ahem* injury he had today. He tried to get Eva to come out onto the pitch.
Didn't work though.
;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 05, 2012, 08:32:15 PM
Nice pictures. Eva !!!!!!!
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0042-Copy.jpg)
No wonder Drogba try ah ting with the *ahem* injury he had today. He tried to get Eva to come out onto the pitch.
Didn't work though.
;D
:rotfl: I really didn't think of that nuh, and is not de fus' time he try, either. All the while the commentators was bad-talkin' de man....he had de right friggin' idea oui!
Post by: lefty on May 06, 2012, 08:06:32 AM
Nice pictures. Eva !!!!!!!
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/rgt_2006/IMG_0042-Copy.jpg)
No wonder Drogba try ah ting with the *ahem* injury he had today. He tried to get Eva to come out onto the pitch.
Didn't work though.
;D
:rotfl: I really didn't think of that nuh, and is not de fus' time he try, either. All the while the commentators was bad-talkin' de man....he had de right friggin' idea oui!
:D
;D
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576552_381366818574444_212461882131606_1152139_2041647696_n.jpg)
Post by: sammy on May 06, 2012, 12:33:47 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 08, 2012, 10:23:26 AM
We bussin' up "king kenny" and he shit side again today ah wha?.......or we go have a lil' pity fuh dem and focus on May 19 instead?
Pitty?!! Not ah fack ah dat! I smellin a Torres goal or 2 today. Meh nose lil stuffy eh so ah could be wrong, buh we beatin dat like ah bobolee today fuh sure!!!
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2012, 10:26:03 AM
We bussin' up "king kenny" and he shit side again today ah wha?.......or we go have a lil' pity fuh dem and focus on May 19 instead?
Alyuh go lorse... :)
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
We bussin' up "king kenny" and he shit side again today ah wha?.......or we go have a lil' pity fuh dem and focus on May 19 instead?
Alyuh go lorse... :)
Allyuh DONE lorse! :rotfl:
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2012, 10:51:45 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 10:56:55 AM
:-[ :-[ :-[ :( :-\ :'( stueps
The MUHAHA shall strike again!!! ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 10:58:12 AM
We bussin' up "king kenny" and he shit side again today ah wha?.......or we go have a lil' pity fuh dem and focus on May 19 instead?
Pitty?!! Not ah fack ah dat! I smellin a Torres goal or 2 today. Meh nose lil stuffy eh so ah could be wrong, buh we beatin dat like ah bobolee today fuh sure!!!
Let's hope you're right.....I would like for nothing more than to see Torres exorcise his EPL and Liverpool demons toda, today, TODAY!!
Post by: lefty on May 08, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
:-[ :-[ :-[ :( :-\ :'( stueps
dem 1 inch punch does hurt eh ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 11:29:53 AM
:-[ :-[ :-[ :( :-\ :'( stueps
dem 1 inch punch does hurt eh ;D
:D
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 11:44:43 AM
Mikel: I’ve had to calm down
Chelsea news: John Obi-Mikel says he is more disciplined
By Pete South May 08, 2012
John Obi-Mikel
"When you play in the role I play and after the first two years you have got four red cards, you can't keep going like that"
Player Profiles
John Obi Mikel
John Obi-Mikel has admitted he has been forced to change his game since arriving in England after garnering a reputation for being ill-disciplined in his first few seasons with Chelsea.
Mikel arrived at Chelsea in 2006 with a reputation as being a tough-tackling midfielder that could fill the void left by Claude Makelele, but soon found himself at the centre of attention for the wrong reasons.
The Nigerian international picked up four red cards and 18 yellows in his first two seasons in England, including being sent off in Chelsea’s League Cup final triumph against Arsenal in 2007.
Mikel appears to have calmed down in recent seasons and has not seen red since January 2008, and the 25-year-old believes he has matured drastically since he arrived at Stamford Bridge.
"When you play in the role I play and after the first two years you have got four red cards, you can't keep going like that," he told Chelsea's official magazine.
"You have to sit and think and look at what you're doing wrong and what you're doing right.
"So, I looked at that aspect of my game and I saw that I really needed to watch the tackles that I went into. Sometimes, it's not just about going in for tackles, it's about knowing how to win the ball without having to go in for those challenges, which is something I've learned.
"Now, I tend to be closer to the ball so I can win it much more easily, to pressurise instead of making those silly tackles I used to make when I first came. The boys now have banter with me sometimes, saying, "Remember four years ago when you used to kick us all the time in training"."
Mikel has been at the heart of Chelsea’s resurgence under Roberto di Matteo as they go in search of adding the Champions League to their FA Cup success of last weekend, and the midfielder believes his game has benefitted greatly from the tactical approach of the Italian.
"Now we play with two (defensive midfielders), where one tends to stay a little bit more and the other has a little bit more licence to go. So, it's pretty standard - it's not 4-4-2, but it's similar in some ways and it's been working well for us," he explained.
"Growing up, 4-4-2 was the standard for me. Then I came into the team at Chelsea and switched to a holding role. If I'm the only deep midfielder, it means I tend to play with more discipline.
"I need to be the one to keep the shape of the team, to be the one man holding, and every team needs that.
"It depends on what the manager wants to do and what he gives you permission to do. I've been here six years and in that time I have had managers who said, 'Don't even try it!'."
'But Robbie has encouraged it, and why not? I try to help the team and I try to show what I can do when I have the ball as well. I try to create and make the team play, to be a little bit more offensive, not only disciplined and defensive.'
...the man who gets berated by so many, including some Chelsea faithful.....sometimes people cannot appreciate the value of good young talent....or just don't know how to recognize it.
Post by: dinho on May 08, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2012, 01:29:24 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 01:36:37 PM
Hehe 3 nil down!Yeah, in a game that Chelsea has clearly abandoned. I think it's not only unprofessional, as the commentators have pointed out, but cruel to liverpool and their fans as well....Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Post by: Bitter on May 08, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 01:44:41 PM
I feel Terry take money
Naaah....he does only take money at Stamford Bridge! :D
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Bitter on May 08, 2012, 01:47:28 PM
I feel Terry take moneyIvanovich too
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2012, 01:55:40 PM
Hehe 3 nil down!Yeah, in a game that Chelsea has clearly abandoned. I think it's not only unprofessional, as the commentators have pointed out, but cruel to liverpool and their fans as well....Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Alyuh better win CL
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 01:59:15 PM
Hehe 3 nil down!Yeah, in a game that Chelsea has clearly abandoned. I think it's not only unprofessional, as the commentators have pointed out, but cruel to liverpool and their fans as well....Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Alyuh better win CL
Die Hard, boy, the way the squad depleted through suspensions and possible injuries, it go be a rel tall order boy. Dize why wasting away today's game is so confusing.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 08, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
Hehe 3 nil down!Yeah, in a game that Chelsea has clearly abandoned. I think it's not only unprofessional, as the commentators have pointed out, but cruel to liverpool and their fans as well....Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Alyuh better win CL
Die Hard, boy, the way the squad depleted through suspensions and possible injuries, it go be a rel tall order boy. Dize why wasting away today's game is so confusing.
Plus Bayern virtually playing at home. I believe that the Allianz Arena is Bayern's home ground.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 08, 2012, 02:03:17 PM
Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Aye I deadin @ dis oui!!! :rotfl:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 08, 2012, 02:09:21 PM
Post by: Bitter on May 08, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
The comeback is on
...soon as allyuh pull de ball back out de net one more time.
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2012, 02:24:08 PM
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 08, 2012, 02:34:05 PM
Chelsea doing shit. Them players lime before the game? Or they feel it go be a walk in the park?
Dey go join we in the Europa next season. Ah wonder how Abramovich go take that?
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
Chelsea doing shit. Them players lime before the game? Or they feel it go be a walk in the park?
Dey go join we in the Europa next season. Ah wonder how Abramovich go take that?
Chelsea show real sportsmanship by taking it easy on we shit side today.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2012, 03:05:10 PM
Chelsea doing shit. Them players lime before the game? Or they feel it go be a walk in the park?
Dey go join we in the Europa next season. Ah wonder how Abramovich go take that?
Chelsea show real sportsmanship by taking it easy on we shit side today.
We beat allyuh shit side with a very tired team Saturday so hopefully y'all will get over it.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 08, 2012, 03:10:05 PM
Post by: davidephraim on May 09, 2012, 07:14:37 AM
Hehe 3 nil down!Yeah, in a game that Chelsea has clearly abandoned. I think it's not only unprofessional, as the commentators have pointed out, but cruel to liverpool and their fans as well....Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Alyuh better win CL
Die Hard, boy, the way the squad depleted through suspensions and possible injuries, it go be a rel tall order boy. Dize why wasting away today's game is so confusing.
too many variables too hope on for top 4 finish. Go all out in CL and hope 4 de best. A ballsy move but possibly the right one.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2012, 07:46:58 AM
Hehe 3 nil down!Yeah, in a game that Chelsea has clearly abandoned. I think it's not only unprofessional, as the commentators have pointed out, but cruel to liverpool and their fans as well....Three days after they trash dey party take a trophy away from them they come and let them storm a fete with no girls, no DJ.
Alyuh better win CL
Die Hard, boy, the way the squad depleted through suspensions and possible injuries, it go be a rel tall order boy. Dize why wasting away today's game is so confusing.
too many variables too hope on for top 4 finish. Go all out in CL and hope 4 de best. A ballsy move but possibly the right one.
You're absolutely right, and Everybody (including the commentators yesterday) needed to recognize that and get over it. Trying to go hard for 4th place at this stage (yesterday) is more a waste than anything.
Post by: kicker on May 09, 2012, 08:17:47 AM
You're absolutely right, and Everybody (including the commentators yesterday) needed to recognize that and get over it. Trying to go hard for 4th place at this stage (yesterday) is more a waste than anything.
Easy to say that when yuh arse get wash.
When Barca and Real run eachother into the ground 2-3 days after their CL first legs and before and their CL return legs, EPL pundits buss up dey mouth and bawl how teams in Spain cyar handle back to back tough games because dey league too soft...Now it doh make sense for Chelsea to go all out 10-11 days before a final - better to save their legs and focus on one match....
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2012, 08:20:52 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2012, 08:26:29 AM
You're absolutely right, and Everybody (including the commentators yesterday) needed to recognize that and get over it. Trying to go hard for 4th place at this stage (yesterday) is more a waste than anything.
Easy to say that when yuh arse get wash.
When Barca and Real run eachother into the ground 2-3 days after their CL first legs and before and their CL return legs, EPL pundits buss up dey mouth and bawl how teams in Spain cyar handle back to back tough games because dey league too soft...Now it doh make sense for Chelsea to go all out 10-11 days before a final - better to save their legs and focus on one match....
Who gives a shit about what EPL pundits say? If Barca and RM still playing against each other before and/or after CL first and second legs, it means more than likely they are still competing for the La Liga title. Chelsea suffering from fatigue (as was evident on Saturday) and have injury woes and (as far as I am concerned) their only hope for a CL spot next year is to try and win the spot outright on May 19th. There was more to risk (injury) yesterday than there was to gain so what sense would it have made? How sure are you that Jose or Pep (or ANY other coach, in any other league) wouldn't have done the same or similar in the same situation?
*wasn't it evident enough to you that neither the Chelsea coaching staff nor the players really cared about yesterday's game?*
Post by: kicker on May 09, 2012, 08:39:59 AM
You're absolutely right, and Everybody (including the commentators yesterday) needed to recognize that and get over it. Trying to go hard for 4th place at this stage (yesterday) is more a waste than anything.
Easy to say that when yuh arse get wash.
When Barca and Real run eachother into the ground 2-3 days after their CL first legs and before and their CL return legs, EPL pundits buss up dey mouth and bawl how teams in Spain cyar handle back to back tough games because dey league too soft...Now it doh make sense for Chelsea to go all out 10-11 days before a final - better to save their legs and focus on one match....
Who gives a shit about what EPL pundits say? If Barca and RM still playing against each other before and/or after CL first and second legs, it means more than likely they are still competing for the La Liga title. Chelsea suffering from fatigue (as was evident on Saturday) and have injury woes and (as far as I am concerned) their only hope for a CL spot next year is to try and win the spot outright on May 19th. There was more to risk (injury) yesterday than there was to gain so what sense would it have made? How sure are you that Jose or Pep (or ANY other coach, in any other league) wouldn't have done the same or similar in the same situation?
*wasn't it evident enough to you that neither the Chelsea coaching staff nor the players really cared about yesterday's game?*
Easy jed....Not saying anything about Jose or Pep and I'm not saying that Chelsea cared or didn't care. I'm actually agreeing with you on the fatigue factor - just pointing out a double standard, and how people only appreciate the fatigue factor when it in dey own backyard (and when yuh get yuh arse cut too!!!)
Otherwise it's a bunch of huffing and puffing...
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2012, 09:25:46 AM
You're absolutely right, and Everybody (including the commentators yesterday) needed to recognize that and get over it. Trying to go hard for 4th place at this stage (yesterday) is more a waste than anything.
Easy to say that when yuh arse get wash.
When Barca and Real run eachother into the ground 2-3 days after their CL first legs and before and their CL return legs, EPL pundits buss up dey mouth and bawl how teams in Spain cyar handle back to back tough games because dey league too soft...Now it doh make sense for Chelsea to go all out 10-11 days before a final - better to save their legs and focus on one match....
Who gives a shit about what EPL pundits say? If Barca and RM still playing against each other before and/or after CL first and second legs, it means more than likely they are still competing for the La Liga title. Chelsea suffering from fatigue (as was evident on Saturday) and have injury woes and (as far as I am concerned) their only hope for a CL spot next year is to try and win the spot outright on May 19th. There was more to risk (injury) yesterday than there was to gain so what sense would it have made? How sure are you that Jose or Pep (or ANY other coach, in any other league) wouldn't have done the same or similar in the same situation?
*wasn't it evident enough to you that neither the Chelsea coaching staff nor the players really cared about yesterday's game?*
Easy jed....Not saying anything about Jose or Pep and I'm not saying that Chelsea cared or didn't care. I'm actually agreeing with you on the fatigue factor - just pointing out a double standard, and how people only appreciate the fatigue factor when it in dey own backyard (and when yuh get yuh arse cut too!!!)
Otherwise it's a bunch of huffing and puffing...
Well I dunno who the "people" are that you're talking about, at first you sad the EPL pundits....your implication is that "people" "...only appreciate the fatigue factor when it in dey own backyard (and when yuh get yuh arse cut too!!!)..." and I am saying that the so-called "cutarse" didn't come because of fatigue, to be used as a convenient axcuse....itt came as a result of Chelsea decidedly not showing up. I don't think it was going to be the same result if Chelsea hadn't abandoned the game as is clear they did. Putting 11 men on the field yesterday was evidently a formality or requirement and they proved on Saturday (under the same fatigue) that they was beating liverpool if and when they wanted to this time around.
Post by: kicker on May 09, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
I was making a general point that your post reminded me of, which is why I quoted it. I wasn't taking issue with what you said. The "people" that I'm talking about are the fools on various football pundit shows (e.g. ESPN press pass etc...), whose sentiments are often echoed in these very threads.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2012, 10:01:43 AM
The reason why they didn't put their best foot (or players) forward was because of the role that fatigue plays particularly at this time of the season - (e.g. prioritize your objectives and rest men for bigger games as is necessary)... just because the guys who were on the field were not tired themselves, doesn't mean that the TEAM didnt lose because of fatigue...Fatigue as you say likely played a big part in the coach's selection decisions.
I was making a general point that your post reminded me of, which is why I quoted it. I wasn't taking issue with what you said. The "people" that I'm talking about are the fools on various football pundit shows (e.g. ESPN press pass etc...), whose sentiments are often echoed in these very threads.
I really don't pay them people no mind.....sometimes I even does disagree strongly with some of the things even Shaka and all does say. (but ah wouldn't call 'im no names.) That being said, yesterday's game was really a farce.......so I eh callin' it no "cutarse". :beermug:
Post by: Bakes on May 09, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Well I dunno who the "people" are that you're talking about, at first you sad the EPL pundits....your implication is that "people" "...only appreciate the fatigue factor when it in dey own backyard (and when yuh get yuh arse cut too!!!)..." and I am saying that the so-called "cutarse" didn't come because of fatigue, to be used as a convenient axcuse....itt came as a result of Chelsea decidedly not showing up. I don't think it was going to be the same result if Chelsea hadn't abandoned the game as is clear they did. Putting 11 men on the field yesterday was evidently a formality or requirement and they proved on Saturday (under the same fatigue) that they was beating liverpool if and when they wanted to this time around.
Well good thing they really wanted to beat Liverpool this time... because evidently they didn't want to for the last 3 years. Be thankful allyuh get lucky and finally get a win and stop acting like yuh team that much better than a supposed shit side they struggle to hold off down the stretch.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 10, 2012, 03:03:36 AM
Well I dunno who the "people" are that you're talking about, at first you sad the EPL pundits....your implication is that "people" "...only appreciate the fatigue factor when it in dey own backyard (and when yuh get yuh arse cut too!!!)..." and I am saying that the so-called "cutarse" didn't come because of fatigue, to be used as a convenient axcuse....itt came as a result of Chelsea decidedly not showing up. I don't think it was going to be the same result if Chelsea hadn't abandoned the game as is clear they did. Putting 11 men on the field yesterday was evidently a formality or requirement and they proved on Saturday (under the same fatigue) that they was beating liverpool if and when they wanted to this time around.
Well good thing they really wanted to beat Liverpool this time... because evidently they didn't want to for the last 3 years. Be thankful allyuh get lucky and finally get a win and stop acting like yuh team that much better than a supposed shit side they struggle to hold off down the stretch.
Of course we "...struggled to hold off..." your shit side down the stretch, bitch, Chelsea is a tired team right now and everybody (except allyuh dumb-ass coach) seems to know that. Having played 9 games more than liverpool so far this season, it is quite understandable that we would "struggle" especially with the recent set of fixtures and liverpool having a day of extra rest before the FA Cup Final....and even so, that's why I careful enough to say "...this time around..." yuh c**t. (open yuh f**kin' eye and READ!) I would be the first to admit that liverpool has gotten the better of us a few times in recent times but we have always gotten a better view of the "bigger picture".
The last time I recall us having any significant good fortune against allyuh perennial 6th-place-and-below shit side ("70"s history" notwithstanding, of course) was in the 2009-2010 season (use yuh fingers and learn to COUNT, c**t. "...last 3 years" my ass.) when we won all 6 games vs arsenal, manu and....well.....allyuh, and the last time allyuh smell any CL action when shithong Saloman Kalou skin out two of allyuh shit defenders by the corner flag and john arne riise did one of your numbers and put his head where his ass belong. Of course there is also the matter of a referee's decision that you went on bitchin' about for 2 seasons well. But sometimes fortune favours the brave and not a pussy coach like "king kenny". If he woulda show some heart and have his team play like men and not boys on Saturday, when it counted, maybe he just mighta get lucky enough to salvage what has become a customary shambolic season fuh allyuh, yes, "shit side". Having success over us counts for nothing more than bragging rights and gaseous crowing, like you tryin' to do, when yuh constantly doing a limbo under the 6th-place line instead of steppin' over it with ease like a side with so much "history" is supposed to do.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 10, 2012, 03:19:30 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 10, 2012, 08:58:12 AM
Post by: elan on May 10, 2012, 09:40:26 AM
Post by: Bakes on May 10, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
Of course we "...struggled to hold off..." your shit side down the stretch, bitch, Chelsea is a tired team right now and everybody (except allyuh dumb-ass coach) seems to know that. Having played 9 games more than liverpool so far this season, it is quite understandable that we would "struggle" especially with the recent set of fixtures and liverpool having a day of extra rest before the FA Cup Final....and even so, that's why I careful enough to say "...this time around..." yuh c**t. (open yuh f**kin' eye and READ!) I would be the first to admit that liverpool has gotten the better of us a few times in recent times but we have always gotten a better view of the "bigger picture".
The last time I recall us having any significant good fortune against allyuh perennial 6th-place-and-below shit side ("70"s history" notwithstanding, of course) was in the 2009-2010 season (use yuh fingers and learn to COUNT, c**t. "...last 3 years" my ass.) when we won all 6 games vs arsenal, manu and....well.....allyuh, and the last time allyuh smell any CL action when shithong Saloman Kalou skin out two of allyuh shit defenders by the corner flag and john arne riise did one of your numbers and put his head where his ass belong. Of course there is also the matter of a referee's decision that you went on bitchin' about for 2 seasons well. But sometimes fortune favours the brave and not a pussy coach like "king kenny". If he woulda show some heart and have his team play like men and not boys on Saturday, when it counted, maybe he just mighta get lucky enough to salvage what has become a customary shambolic season fuh allyuh, yes, "shit side". Having success over us counts for nothing more than bragging rights and gaseous crowing, like you tryin' to do, when yuh constantly doing a limbo under the 6th-place line instead of steppin' over it with ease like a side with so much "history" is supposed to do.
So parsing thru all de "bitch" and "c**t" and "f**king" and sundry expletives.... yuh excuse is that Chelsea "tired". Okay.
So did they struggle to hold off this inferior side because ah de fatigue... or they cruise to victory ("beating liverpool if and when they wanted to this time around") in spite of it? Yuh kinda talking out both sides ah yuh mouth dey. One would expect ah "big" side like Chelsea to easily handle ah "shit side" who play like "boys" and who "perennially" (ah sure yuh could back that up) finishing below sixth... fatigue or no fatigue.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 10, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
Of course we "...struggled to hold off..." your shit side down the stretch, bitch, Chelsea is a tired team right now and everybody (except allyuh dumb-ass coach) seems to know that. Having played 9 games more than liverpool so far this season, it is quite understandable that we would "struggle" especially with the recent set of fixtures and liverpool having a day of extra rest before the FA Cup Final....and even so, that's why I careful enough to say "...this time around..." yuh c**t. (open yuh f**kin' eye and READ!) I would be the first to admit that liverpool has gotten the better of us a few times in recent times but we have always gotten a better view of the "bigger picture".
The last time I recall us having any significant good fortune against allyuh perennial 6th-place-and-below shit side ("70"s history" notwithstanding, of course) was in the 2009-2010 season (use yuh fingers and learn to COUNT, c**t. "...last 3 years" my ass.) when we won all 6 games vs arsenal, manu and....well.....allyuh, and the last time allyuh smell any CL action when shithong Saloman Kalou skin out two of allyuh shit defenders by the corner flag and john arne riise did one of your numbers and put his head where his ass belong. Of course there is also the matter of a referee's decision that you went on bitchin' about for 2 seasons well. But sometimes fortune favours the brave and not a pussy coach like "king kenny". If he woulda show some heart and have his team play like men and not boys on Saturday, when it counted, maybe he just mighta get lucky enough to salvage what has become a customary shambolic season fuh allyuh, yes, "shit side". Having success over us counts for nothing more than bragging rights and gaseous crowing, like you tryin' to do, when yuh constantly doing a limbo under the 6th-place line instead of steppin' over it with ease like a side with so much "history" is supposed to do.
So parsing thru all de "bitch" and "c**t" and "f**king" and sundry expletives.... yuh excuse is that Chelsea "tired". Okay.
So did they struggle to hold off this inferior side because ah de fatigue... or they cruise to victory ("beating liverpool if and when they wanted to this time around") in spite of it? Yuh kinda talking out both sides ah yuh mouth dey. One would expect ah "big" side like Chelsea to easily handle ah "shit side" who play like "boys" and who "perennially" (ah sure yuh could back that up) finishing below sixth... fatigue or no fatigue.
You care about them finite details more than anbeody else does.....because that what you need to care about. But hear what, at least 2 of them last 3 years yuh crowing about, liverpool came in 6th place and below....and day after tomorrow lookin' to be no different. At the end of the day, Chelsea and their fans doh give a f**k about style points, especially regarding Saturday's game. Sometimes yuh win ugly, sometimes yuh lose beautifully but we fans are here to enjoy the ride as best we could, no matter how rough it gets. Allyuh so does try to get caught up in "history" and "pedigree" that you not even part of or was too young to really even appreciate so you do that and STFU! For now, for me, all that matter is our "shithong" 'keeper contributed to preserve the FA Cup, our "non Brazilian" Ramires contributed to the win and your "reina-is-better-than-Cech" ole talk get put to rest with yet another putrid performance by the former. So all that pre-game bravado that you was talkin' out the side of your mouth just ended up being a shit stain on yuh chin.
Post by: dinho on May 10, 2012, 12:59:02 PM
We used to real go at it back in the Mourinho vs Benitez days when Liverpool was the one side to give Chelsea the most trouble. When them games would only ever finish 0-0 or 1-1 and when Liverpool had Chelsea number, so much so that I used to fear that side in CL probably even more than Barca.
Nowadays them fellas doh even bother because they really eh in the same bracket. Had Chelsea lost to Liverpool 4-1 back in dem days, regardless of the circumstances I would never hear the end of it. I think they see that game for what it was, which was a nothing game and nothing redeeming for them in what has been a shambolic season for Liverpool. I don't even see how scraping a Carling Cup in penalty kicks over a Championship team supposed to be a beacon of light as 'King Kenny' trying to swing it.
That rivalry these days is a non-entity... Liverpool simply are not ready. And that says alot given that Chelsea has been below par for much of the season.
Post by: Bakes on May 10, 2012, 01:18:40 PM
You care about them finite details more than anbeody else does.....because that what you need to care about. But hear what, at least 2 of them last 3 years yuh crowing about, liverpool came in 6th place and below....and day after tomorrow lookin' to be no different. At the end of the day, Chelsea and their fans doh give a f**k about style points, especially regarding Saturday's game. Sometimes yuh win ugly, sometimes yuh lose beautifully but we fans are here to enjoy the ride as best we could, no matter how rough it gets. Allyuh so does try to get caught up in "history" and "pedigree" that you not even part of or was too young to really even appreciate so you do that and STFU! For now, for me, all that matter is our "shithong" 'keeper contributed to preserve the FA Cup, our "non Brazilian" Ramires contributed to the win and your "reina-is-better-than-Cech" ole talk get put to rest with yet another putrid performance by the former. So all that pre-game bravado that you was talkin' out the side of your mouth just ended up being a shit stain on yuh chin.
Wheyyyy all ah dat? :rotfl:
Dred you in here talking ah pack ah emotional shit from de time allyuh win on Saturday. Where was I talking "pre-game bravado"... inside yuh head? You's real kicks yes gyul. I simply point out how yuh dogging my "shit" side as though your 'big' side didn't struggle against them and yuh start tuh cuss and carry on and fling up yuh skirt.
Yuh even go so far as to say Liverpool "constantly" and "perennially" sixth or below... when yuh do check de score not only has Chelsea failed to top Liverpool in the table, but in fact they finished sixth or lower more times than Liverpool... and "day after tomorrow lookin' to be no different." Oh, and by de way, this ent getting caught up in no long history eh... this is just the last 20 years, or in the current Premier League era. But doh let all ah dat distract yuh from yuh position that yuh current "tired" squad head and shoulders better.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2012, 12:09:07 PM
Wheyyyy all ah dat? :rotfl:
Dred you in here talking ah pack ah emotional shit from de time allyuh win on Saturday.
Somebody always "emotional" or "totin' feelings" fuh you, the lil' fella who was gettin' on whole season like Torres break yuh heart when he leave yuh shit side, as he say, "to win trophies." you, the lil' fella who couldn't stop cryin' but a ref's decision in a liverpool loss to Chelsea fuh two seasons. The other day Giorio Chinaglia come and dead and yuh cyah even gih de man a lil' "R.I.P." but yuh talkin' 'bout how "he was a tun tun in he playin days"....de same playin' days when you was too small to even know what a football was. Who he was a tun tun to, you and yuh muddah? Wha happen he refuse to autograph one ah yuh diapers fuh she?.....or he break in she eye? Yuh carry dem feelings all these years?!
Where was I talking "pre-game bravado"... inside yuh head?
If it was inside yuh mudda c**t yuh would know.....but it wasn't this time, so go to the last two pages of yuh shit side shit thread.....second-to last page in fact....scroll up. second from top.
You's real kicks yes gyul. I simply point out how yuh dogging my "shit" side as though your 'big' side didn't struggle against them and yuh start tuh cuss and carry on and fling up yuh skirt.
Yuh even go so far as to say Liverpool "constantly" and "perennially" sixth or below... when yuh do check de score not only has Chelsea failed to top Liverpool in the table, but in fact they finished sixth or lower more times than Liverpool... and "day after tomorrow lookin' to be no different." Oh, and by de way, this ent getting caught up in no long history eh... this is just the last 20 years, or in the current Premier League era. But doh let all ah dat distract yuh from yuh position that yuh current "tired" squad head and shoulders better.
So wha happ'm, it hurt yuh feeling that ah was doggin' yuh shit side? All de "pedigree" and "history" allyuh does be talkin' yuh shouldn't be comparing allyuh side to my side. Allyuh always supposed to be on top. Two outta the last 3 seasons is "perrenial" enough fuh me, I callin' it that.....and Sunday is no different. Allyuh stuck in mediocrity and next season will be more to come, reality show or not. When you constantly comin' and talkin' shit 'bout my team and my players, I do ketch no feelings like yuh yuh know....Aside from you showin' that yuh odoesn't know what yuh does be talkin' 'bouthalf the time, I does jes' prove yuh wrong. Yuh should try that instead of bein' such a lil' bitch.
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 12, 2012, 01:27:50 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2012, 05:03:54 PM
Post by: lefty on May 12, 2012, 05:49:17 PM
Wth like i going mad? Mango you didn't just post here before? either i going mad or replies gone :o
ah tink allyuh had ah server reset or someting...same ting happen to me in entertainment.......tort d mods was playin teef in d night again ....sorry mods :-[
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 12, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Wth like i going mad? Mango you didn't just post here before? either i going mad or replies gone :o
Wth like i going mad? Mango you didn't just post here before? either i going mad or replies gone :o
ah tink allyuh had ah server reset or someting...same ting happen to me in entertainment.......tort d mods was playin teef in d night again ....sorry mods :-[
De mods and *cough*kicker*cough*and dem tryin' and delete some ah dem "inappropriate" posts ah put up. :devil:
Post by: Blue on May 12, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Watching the German FA Cup right now with Bayern vs. Dortmund. Bayern look VERY susceptible to the counter: they lack recovery pace...very slow at the back. Their backline looks shaky (Boateng seems uncomfortable in possession). Plus, they are playing this high backline, probably because they looking for goals (down 4-1). They could very well be caused problems by Chelsea's pace (they're definitely the faster team from front to back). Different team, different game, but if Bayrn come out like this versus Chelsea, they will be embarassed on their home turf.
I watched the game too....was very encouraging (granted, most of the poor defending came from players who will be banned next week). Drogba (and even Torres) could murderize that team.
Meaningless game to end the season tomorrow, which is great from a Champions League perspective. Dunno if Drogba will be given a chance to say goodbye to the home crowd...I expect Torres to start and Lukaku and Lucas Piazon to be on the bench....Drogba is supposedly also carrying a minor injury so probably won't be risked.
Post by: Blue on May 13, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
And having said that....the original Drogba probably played his last Premiership game today. He came on with 35 minutes left to a prolonged standing ovation and, although he was playing it safe, you could see how much he wanted to sign off with a goal...if he plays with that passion next week he will rip Munich apart. After the final whistle, he really looked like he was saying goodbye, waving and bowing to the crowd, and looking pretty emotional. Thank you Sir Didier :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
Post by: lefty on May 13, 2012, 11:48:40 AM
And having said that....the original Drogba probably played his last Premiership game today. He came on with 35 minutes left to a prolonged standing ovation and, although he was playing it safe, you could see how much he wanted to sign off with a goal...if he plays with that passion next week he will rip Munich apart. After the final whistle, he really looked like he was saying goodbye, waving and bowing to the crowd, and looking pretty emotional. Thank you Sir Didier :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
wow :( if that is so I am sad, but he served and he served well :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: hope dey give him ah nice bonus :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
Post by: Blue on May 18, 2012, 02:03:40 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2012, 03:58:19 PM
Straightforward end to the season, noone really broke too much of a sweat and we ended with a win. Malouda seems to have picked up an injury which is worrying given how small our squad is already going into the CL final. Lukaku started and looked really good today, definitely his best performance to date and I'd love to see him get a few more games next season...on that showing maybe one day he will be the new Drogba.
And having said that....the original Drogba probably played his last Premiership game today. He came on with 35 minutes left to a prolonged standing ovation and, although he was playing it safe, you could see how much he wanted to sign off with a goal...if he plays with that passion next week he will rip Munich apart. After the final whistle, he really looked like he was saying goodbye, waving and bowing to the crowd, and looking pretty emotional. Thank you Sir Didier :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
They should give Drogba the keys to Stamford Bridge and any other Chelsea facility that plan on poppin' up in the future.
Post by: Observer on May 18, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
We talking double digit millions. If this is true?????
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2012, 04:56:28 PM
Heard some whispers around London that John Terry has some serious gambling debts owed to a casino.
We talking double digit millions. If this is true?????
if is true then I wish him luck!
Post by: Big Magician on May 19, 2012, 12:15:28 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 19, 2012, 06:45:06 AM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 07:01:48 AM
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I does glad to be surrounded by the more confident Chelsea fans oui, maybe I need to have more faith. I didn't think they woulda beat Barca and with such a reduced lineup today, meh confidence eh high against BM at all.....but the game hadda play and ah hope Drogba and possibly Lampard, too, could end their Chelsea careers on the highest notes. :beermug:
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 07:08:17 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 19, 2012, 07:11:43 AM
this forum needs a thumbs down button
Haters gon hate 8)
Post by: Blue on May 19, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 07:56:11 AM
In munich city centre now....lions f**kin den lol. EVERYONE is either bayern or chelsea (mostly bayern obviously). Over to u, Didier.
Enjoy yuh self and hug up 2-3 fraulein fuh we!! :beermug:
this forum needs a thumbs down button
so manu fans could lie dong on dey couch upside dong and suck it watchin' de game today!
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 08:20:18 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 19, 2012, 09:13:52 AM
:yapping:
Go hug up yuh community shield and relax yuhself :devil:
Post by: Brownsugar on May 19, 2012, 12:29:45 PM
Inquiring minds want to know....
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 01:44:25 PM
Ah still vex with John Terry. All yuh tell me something. After he got sent off in the semis, some one told me that he (or any of the players not eligible to play because of cards) wouldn't get a winners medal. Dais true??
Inquiring minds want to know....
....if Chelsea wins, not only will JT be collecting a medal, but he will also be allowed to lift the trophy.
Post by: Brownsugar on May 19, 2012, 01:48:12 PM
Ah still vex with John Terry. All yuh tell me something. After he got sent off in the semis, some one told me that he (or any of the players not eligible to play because of cards) wouldn't get a winners medal. Dais true??
Inquiring minds want to know....
....if Chelsea wins, not only will JT be collecting a medal, but he will also be allowed to lift the trophy.
OK. Thanks....
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 01:48:45 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 01:58:52 PM
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
Come on Bayern!
:wavetowel: :salute: :cheers: :
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 02:19:31 PM
Post by: fari on May 19, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: Mango Chow! link=topic=37658.msg806304#m :osg806304 date=1337458771
....so far, Ashley Cole hadda be Chelsea's MOM....de man defending with he life today boy.He reallll getting on....but bayern nervous in front of goal too
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 02:24:21 PM
BAYERN SCORES
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :whip: :whip:
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 02:26:08 PM
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 02:28:23 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
SALT!!!A TRUCK LOAD....I Remember someone posting there truck on our page, looks like they will have to load it up with SALT AND EUROPA THURSDAY SCHEDULES!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 02:30:51 PM
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 02:31:12 PM
Post by: Cocorite on May 19, 2012, 02:31:25 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 02:31:43 PM
Post by: ribbit on May 19, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 02:37:56 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 02:40:07 PM
Chelsea men eh posting at all boy!
Ent, they cah take d pressure. Lol
Post by: fari on May 19, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
Post by: Cocorite on May 19, 2012, 02:47:19 PM
Post by: Soccer 19 on May 19, 2012, 02:51:39 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 03:18:30 PM
Post by: Cocorite on May 19, 2012, 03:30:00 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Post by: Cocorite on May 19, 2012, 03:30:30 PM
Finally
DROGBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2012, 03:33:56 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2012, 03:34:47 PM
Chelsea is rel shit. Living on luck
Hey if Aston Villa can win it why not shitty Chelski!
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Stueps
Diehard boy it was good knowin yuh! I gone too!
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2012, 03:36:06 PM
Post by: Brownsugar on May 19, 2012, 03:47:47 PM
Chelsea is rel shit. Living on luck
Hey if Aston Villa can win it why not shitty Chelski!
Hate is not a nice thing..... ;D
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
Chelsea is rel shit. Living on luck
Hey if Aston Villa can win it why not shitty Chelski!
Hate is not a nice thing..... ;D
Nah man ah can't stand the players on dat side! Dat side dos jus bring out the hate!
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 03:56:22 PM
Chelsea is rel shit. Living on luck
Hey if Aston Villa can win it why not shitty Chelski!
RRRRRRRRIDE out, boat ah fackin' allyuh!!! ;D
Post by: fari on May 19, 2012, 04:02:12 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 19, 2012, 04:08:10 PM
Glad for men like Lamps, Cole, Cech and Drogba to win a trophy their careers have deserved
I love Terry the player but Terry the man and all the shit he does deserves to watch his teammates win it .. Karma
If allyuh men go and buy Modric I will take my hatred up another level... but enjoy the moment today.. It is the best feeling ever to win it...Cheers
Post by: dotless007 on May 19, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
Post by: Peong on May 19, 2012, 05:38:25 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 19, 2012, 06:16:40 PM
Post by: dinho on May 19, 2012, 06:22:22 PM
HOME OF THE CHAMPIONS!!
Enjoying this to the fullest.
Post by: injunchile on May 19, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Post by: elan on May 19, 2012, 08:29:02 PM
Post by: elan on May 19, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Post by: elan on May 19, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/j6agcwl2m5o&feature=related
Post by: mukumsplau on May 20, 2012, 02:28:37 AM
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 20, 2012, 02:45:36 AM
Chelsea is rel shit. Living on luck
Hey if Aston Villa can win it why not shitty Chelski!
FACK both of allyuh.
We are the Champions of Europe. Dont like it, then GTFO :beermug:
Post by: davidephraim on May 20, 2012, 03:33:04 AM
Post by: JDB on May 20, 2012, 05:13:36 AM
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The man really say he want to win trophies in truth.
So said so done, never mind how.
Post by: doublet750 on May 20, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
yes the best team doesnt always win ...yes we really lucky but havent we been so since the last league game against valencia? YOU NEED THE RUB OF THE GRAIN IN YOUR FAVOR TO WIN THIS CUP ....and NO ONE CAN DENY THAT WE HAVE SIMPLY NEVER HAD THAT TILL NOW ....so to those who try to minimise the feat of UPSETTING THE BAVARIAN GIANTS a 4 TIME WINNER AT HOME WHO PLAYED US LIKE BARCA DID BUT lacking efficiency in front of goal i say SOD OFF!!!....when T&T manage a draw with sweden in Germany (our only REAL chance being the cornell glen shot off the bar) alyuh didnt call our team all these names....so y be haters when another team get a upset done!! SPORTS IS MADE FOR MOMENTS OF UPSET otherwise if the favorite always win it would be boring!
GOd is good though !
GLad the boys finally got the win now on to conquer the World Club Cup and we would have won every trophy capable for the club to have won in its history....a feat alot of other HISTORIC WINNERS havent achieved
Post by: elan on May 20, 2012, 11:01:12 AM
coward football
Better to be a coward dog than a dead soldier.
He who fights and run away, lives to fight another day.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 20, 2012, 11:02:46 AM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
Post by: Blue on May 20, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
I made the trip by myself, my usual riding partner couldnt make it. Touched down in Munich around lunchtime and the atmosphere was immense...it was wall to wall fans. Or to be more precise, everyone was a fan, cuz from the taxi drivers to the bar staff to the street cleaners, everyone was backing Bayern. Chelsea fans came out in force, but it was about 30-35 thousand versus 1 million (that is not an exaggeration).
And Bayern fans really saw this as their destiny. They were very respectful and accommodating hosts but they had no doubt that this was their moment in time. For them the 90 minutes was supposed to be a procession to glory. Anyone who saw the show they put on before the kickoff would understand. I don't think that pressure helped those players at all.
Anyway, as yall know, Bayern dominated the match....tactically it was Barcelona all over again. Ribery and Robben went on raid after raid but we defended valiantly. We offered very little offensively, Drogba and Mata were isolated attackers, with Kalou and Bertrand having to concentrate on their defensive duties. It was not good for the nerves at all. To be frank, I still can't believe we got to half time goalless.
Second half, same story....when they scored that offside goal I thought the game was up...until we realised that it was offisde (cue massive celebrations). When they scored for real I thought the game was up......then Torres came on and gave us the offensive spark we needed...and Sir Didier did what he always does.
I will never forget that moment, it felt like slow motion. I was sitting in the corner where Mata took the corner from, between the 6 yard line and the penalty spot (i.e. - where all the players were congregating for the corner). I remember seeing the ball floating in and looking for Drogba...and seeing him eyeing the ball and moving towards it...but there was a Bayern player in front of him who looked like he would get there first. Then, just as the Bayern fella looked to head the ball clear, all of a sudden Drogba was in front of him. Bullet Header. Pandemonium. Hugging up a setta strangers, drinks flying everywhere as Didier slid towards us with his trademark celebration. I will never forget that ;D
From that point out, I never thought we would lose. The run of luck we were on was just too ridiculous. We were going to win. When Robben took that penalty in extra time, I knew he wasn't going to score, I was literally smiling as he ran up to take it. Still, penalties was nerve wracking...but you could see that Cech had at least one save in him because he kept diving the right way. And sure enough he came through. Then it was left to Sir Didier to sign off in style. What a legend :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
The rest of the evening was just euphoric....I dunno if I've ever experienced that. Even when Trinidad drew against Sweden - as happy as we were, we still had England in the back of our minds. This was different. Hard to describe. There was no feeling of relief or release of tension...those feelings didnt matter anymore....it was just pure joy ;D ;D ;D
We spent the next 90 minutes in the stadium palancing and then began to make our way back the city centre. Finally got back to my hotel around 4, sharing a cab with 4 exhausted yet ecstatic random Chelsea fans. Woke up this morning and was ecstatic again when I realised that last night really happened ;D
Shoutout to the Bayern fans who were incredibly gracious losers...most of them stayed to watch the trophy presentation and applauded us. No animosity on their part at all just disappointment. They deserve to win this trophy in the next few years and I hope they do.
Post by: Blue on May 20, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
Bayern Fans before the game
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Kickoff time
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The Opposition
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Drogba celebrating his goal
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Trophy celebrations
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Cech with the trophy
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Mata with the trophy
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Torres with the trophy
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Thank you Sir Didier :salute:
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The Allianz Arena
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Post by: FireBrand on May 20, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
Post by: injunchile on May 20, 2012, 01:59:36 PM
Post by: Brownsugar on May 20, 2012, 03:07:55 PM
Post by: dinho on May 21, 2012, 09:28:49 AM
Had a lime home for the game and did not stop drinking after the game till about 11pm as i had people passing through all hours to lime. Then more lime, drink and fete yesterday, i only really now recover.
I don't think I have ever experienced happiness like that since the Trinidad v Sweden game, in fact only my wedding day will top this. Which brings me to something else.
I sincerely believe that the Big Man upstairs does have a hand in this thing called football. To have a sport that can invoke so much emotion and bring so much joy, the Big Man hadda have a say in that, in fact i sure He watch the game. Heaven must have a football stadium up there.
My grandmother used to always tell me "What is for you is for you!", and when a team has had as much luck as Chelsea throughout the entire tournament you just have to hold your hand up and say that is destiny.
Like Ryan said, when Robben was taking that penalty i did not think for a second that he would score in fact i was on my feet laughing and telling them they wouldn't like it when Cech save the penalty here before he even kick it. The longer that game went on, anyone who watch enough football supposed to know that when a side missing all their chances like that they bound to get poison.
Chelsea was not supposed to beat Bayern Munich, hands down Bayern was the better team.
They wasn't supposed to beat Barcelona either, in both the first and second legs Barcelona was the better team.
They wasn't even supposed to get past Napoli with a 3-1 deficit to overcome.
Their name was just on that trophy and it had to happen so.
Champions of Europe for the first time ever. What a feeling.
Post by: dinho on May 21, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-hero-didier-drogba-serenaded-842269
(http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article841949.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Didier+Drogba+holds+the+Champions+League+and+FA+Cup)
“Why have you avoided us, eluded us, for so long? Why have you punished us so much?” asked Drogba, talking to the most famous pot in club football.
“For all these years you have flirted with us, tempted us, then run away.
“We thought you would come to us at Anfield twice, but you did not listen. Then in Moscow, you made us believe you were ours but turned your back, refused to let us touch you.
“Against Barcelona, again, you tortured us, made us want you even more, made it even harder.
“And even tonight, you hurt us first. Made us suffer. Made us fear it would be the same again, the late goal, the penalty kick, until the end. And now, at last, you belong to us.”
Post by: Daft Trini on May 21, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Post by: Blue on May 21, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Drogba to leave Chelsea
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7770087/Drogba-to-leave-Chelsea
Didier Drogba has revealed he intends to leave UEFA Champions League winners Chelsea, according to reports in France.
The 34-year-old, who scored a late equaliser and the decisive penalty in the shoot-out win over Bayern Munich on Saturday, is reported to have told team-mates his decision during Sunday's trophy parade.
Members of the triumphant Blues squad chanted for Drogba to stay in front of his adoring fans but the Ivory Coast international appears to have decided his eight-year spell at Stamford Bridge is up.
"We will not be together next season," Drogba told France Football magazine.
"As I have decided to leave, I wanted to tell them (my team-mates) straight to their faces.
"Except that I could not do it. They made me break down.
"Even though it's been three years since I said I wanted to leave, I found it hard to admit that it was finished with me and the club.
"But I don't envisage sitting on the bench watching others play at a time when the club is looking at putting together a new team.
"So there we go, I am readying myself for a great leap into the unknown. It will be another adventure."
Drogba has been linked with a lucrative move to Chinese side Shanghai Shenhuan, where his former Chelsea team-mate Nicolas Anelka is now a player-coach.
Post by: lefty on May 21, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
DROGBA
Post by: Blue on May 21, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/5tLNMj5DFc4
http://www.youtube.com/v/Mw2nK9hj5cg
Post by: lefty on May 21, 2012, 02:18:53 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
http://www.youtube.com/v/lNwDqJBJSY8
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 21, 2012, 03:32:52 PM
May 21, 2012
By ESPN staff
Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku has launched a stinging criticism of former manager Andre Villas-Boas, insisting he will "never forgive" the Portuguese boss.
Lukaku, 19, believes that he was sidelined by Villas-Boas from the day he arrived at the club, saying the former Porto boss did not treat him with respect.
Although Lukaku was signed during the Villas-Boas era at Stamford Bridge, he was bought as a result of a long-standing scouting project by the club - not at Villas-Boas' request.
Speaking after Chelsea's Champions League triumph, Lukaku told Sport Wereld: "I could not believe it. I had to think 'Is this really happening'? European champion ... My life has changed and I'm only nineteen.
"But there is one person that I will never forgive for what he did to me - the previous coach. It's not just that. It was also the way he spoke to me and treated me. Right from the beginning, it was weird. I could not stand how he was treating me. I received no explanation.
"In training he put me on the right or left wing. In training matches I was a substitute with a shirt to keep swapping teams. I really learned nothing! I have told the club that too. I understand that he was under pressure, but I was also thinking of myself. I have improved in recent months."
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 21, 2012, 04:39:43 PM
Lukaku: 'I will never forgive AVB'
May 21, 2012
By ESPN staff
Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku has launched a stinging criticism of former manager Andre Villas-Boas, insisting he will "never forgive" the Portuguese boss.
Lukaku, 19, believes that he was sidelined by Villas-Boas from the day he arrived at the club, saying the former Porto boss did not treat him with respect.
Although Lukaku was signed during the Villas-Boas era at Stamford Bridge, he was bought as a result of a long-standing scouting project by the club - not at Villas-Boas' request.
Speaking after Chelsea's Champions League triumph, Lukaku told Sport Wereld: "I could not believe it. I had to think 'Is this really happening'? European champion ... My life has changed and I'm only nineteen.
"But there is one person that I will never forgive for what he did to me - the previous coach. It's not just that. It was also the way he spoke to me and treated me. Right from the beginning, it was weird. I could not stand how he was treating me. I received no explanation.
"In training he put me on the right or left wing. In training matches I was a substitute with a shirt to keep swapping teams. I really learned nothing! I have told the club that too. I understand that he was under pressure, but I was also thinking of myself. I have improved in recent months."
Clearly, AVB is very poor in the man-management department and hopefully he will recognize that and make the necessary adjustments in his future. The players, though, need to get over certain things and remember they are professionals and that they play for the club and the fans. To me, once you playing a sport you love and gettin' paid seeeeerious money to do it, yuh cyah let certain things keep you down.
Post by: Brownsugar on May 21, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
it really start here
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
http://www.youtube.com/v/lNwDqJBJSY8
Tell dem nah lefty!!....anti-football come back from 2 - 0 down in the Nou Camp to tie and qualify for the final....ent??....Men really need to lay off de haterade..... ::) ::)
But I'm curious about something. While this particular game was playing live, I coulda swear Torres would have called off side cuz I couldn't believe he ran so fast and open up all that distance on the Barca player.
On a separate but related note, in this clip this is the first time I am getting to see where Torres was AT THE TIME the ball was played and it seems as though he was ahead of the last Barca player. At watch it over and over (from about min 4:10 - 4:22) and ah more confused than I was before....how come Torres wasn't offside?? I mean clearly nothing was wrong cuz the Barca players eh protest, the ref, the fans, the linesmen, the 4th official, Barca bench nobody eh complain....
So inquiring minds want to know (the offside rule does still baffle me sometimes).......what is the rule I'm missing?? Please and Thanks....
Post by: lefty on May 21, 2012, 06:21:27 PM
Post by: elan on May 21, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
it really start here
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
http://www.youtube.com/v/lNwDqJBJSY8
Tell dem nah lefty!!....anti-football come back from 2 - 0 down in the Nou Camp to tie and qualify for the final....ent??....Men really need to lay off de haterade..... ::) ::)
But I'm curious about something. While this particular game was playing live, I coulda swear Torres would have called off side cuz I couldn't believe he ran so fast and open up all that distance on the Barca player.
On a separate but related note, in this clip this is the first time I am getting to see where Torres was AT THE TIME the ball was played and it seems as though he was ahead of the last Barca player. At watch it over and over (from about min 4:10 - 4:22) and ah more confused than I was before....how come Torres wasn't offside?? I mean clearly nothing was wrong cuz the Barca players eh protest, the ref, the fans, the linesmen, the 4th official, Barca bench nobody eh complain....
So inquiring minds want to know (the offside rule does still baffle me sometimes).......what is the rule I'm missing?? Please and Thanks....
You cannot be offside in your half of the field.
Post by: D.H.W on May 21, 2012, 07:16:04 PM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
What team is that you talking about ? :waiting:
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 21, 2012, 07:47:37 PM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
What team is that you talking about ? :waiting:
Relax, is juventus ah talkin' 'bout. Allyuh side isn't one of the top clubs in the world and allyuh doh bribe match officials, "sir" alex does jes bully dem.
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 21, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
Lukaku: 'I will never forgive AVB'
May 21, 2012
By ESPN staff
Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku has launched a stinging criticism of former manager Andre Villas-Boas, insisting he will "never forgive" the Portuguese boss.
Lukaku, 19, believes that he was sidelined by Villas-Boas from the day he arrived at the club, saying the former Porto boss did not treat him with respect.
Although Lukaku was signed during the Villas-Boas era at Stamford Bridge, he was bought as a result of a long-standing scouting project by the club - not at Villas-Boas' request.
Speaking after Chelsea's Champions League triumph, Lukaku told Sport Wereld: "I could not believe it. I had to think 'Is this really happening'? European champion ... My life has changed and I'm only nineteen.
"But there is one person that I will never forgive for what he did to me - the previous coach. It's not just that. It was also the way he spoke to me and treated me. Right from the beginning, it was weird. I could not stand how he was treating me. I received no explanation.
"In training he put me on the right or left wing. In training matches I was a substitute with a shirt to keep swapping teams. I really learned nothing! I have told the club that too. I understand that he was under pressure, but I was also thinking of myself. I have improved in recent months."
Clearly, AVB is very poor in the man-management department and hopefully he will recognize that and make the necessary adjustments in his future. The players, though, need to get over certain things and remember they are professionals and that they play for the club and the fans. To me, once you playing a sport you love and gettin' paid seeeeerious money to do it, yuh cyah let certain things keep you down.
Lukaku need to take his time. He young in his football ting. he eh no legend like Drogba so he need to humble himself. with that being said, i loved avb but he needed to move different with the players. but then again, avb wasnt brough there to babysit and make fren. he was put there to change the style of our football. babysittin wud have been di matteo's job
Post by: asylumseeker on May 21, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
Post by: Blue on May 22, 2012, 12:16:45 AM
What do Chelsea fans feel about Anelka missing out on this trophy?
*shrug*
Post by: Brownsugar on May 22, 2012, 05:06:51 AM
I eh no expert and ah could be wrong but ah tink is 'cause he start he run in chelsea half when d ball play
You cannot be offside in your half of the field.
Thank you gentlemen.....ah feel like a real chupidy now..... :banginghead: ;D
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 22, 2012, 08:24:51 AM
What do Chelsea fans feel about Anelka missing out on this trophy?
Daz ah rell hard luck scenes oui! I actually wish Niko was part of it tbh. He gave us many good moments and despite how much I hated his lazy look at times on the field he contributed a lot and filled various gaps without grumbling about it. Also because of how AVB handle him make it even worse
I hope at some point AVB recognizes that his personnel management is very poor. While Lukaku is a young player and has to grow, I find it disheartening that AVB pretty much left him completely out the mix simply because he didn't choose him. Denying Niko de opportunity to attend the Christmas dinner and banning him and Alex from the facility shows just how little homework he did considering how popular they both were in the dressing room.
Post by: Big Magician on May 22, 2012, 08:43:28 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 22, 2012, 09:02:15 AM
22 May 2012
Andriy Shevchenko has been tipped to make a return to Chelsea ... this time as a coach.
The striker - widely regarded as a £30million flop after joining Chelsea in 2006 from AC Milan - is currently playing at Dynamo Kiev and is taking his coaching badges.
Roman Abramovich wants to make sweeping changes at Chelsea next season despite the club lifting the European Cup on Saturday.
Shevchenko - who scored nine goals in 48 games at Chelsea - has been a regular visitor to the Blues' training ground this season, according to the Daily Mail. He is still close friends with Abramovich.
He is expected to make a decision on his future after Euro 2012, where he will captain Ukraine.
If he decides to retire from playing at the end of the tournament, a return to Stamford Bridge could be on the cards.
This is not a good idea, I also read that DiMatteo had already decided he was planning to leave Chelsea win or lose. Don't know how true that is. To me if we are going to go the temporary route while supposedly waiting for Pep then RDM at minimum deserves a 1 year deal. I think he earned an opportunity to at minimum be looked at over the course of the next season as manager without the interum tag.
Big Mag yuh really takin on suwah man Palos an he shit lol
Post by: mukumsplau on May 22, 2012, 09:40:09 AM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
do a little reading and while at it apply objective thinking if posible. in the google age there is no reason to live in ignorance.
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2012, 10:39:56 AM
What do Chelsea fans feel about Anelka missing out on this trophy?
Outside with him, if he wanted one he shoulda score his penalty in 2009.
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
it really start here
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
http://www.youtube.com/v/lNwDqJBJSY8
Lefty, u trying to put water in my eye hoss?
Post by: Tongue on May 22, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
What do Chelsea fans feel about Anelka missing out on this trophy?
he miss out. buh say wha... is not like he doh have one
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 22, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
What do Chelsea fans feel about Anelka missing out on this trophy?
he miss out. buh say wha... is not like he doh have one
I forget he ha one oui! Well I eh feel so bad fuh him no more lol
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
not jus dat, d whole sequence of events deserving of tears hoss........especially as the Drogs gets to leave well and truly etched in Chelsea history as a hero ...my favorite player.... god be with him always ;D :cheers: :cheers:it really start here
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
http://www.youtube.com/v/lNwDqJBJSY8
Lefty, u trying to put water in my eye hoss?
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 22, 2012, 11:29:58 AM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
do a little reading and while at it apply objective thinking if posible. in the google age there is no reason to live in ignorance.
No need, I was watching things as they unfolded. I leave "google" and all those things to little youths of today that don't know how to go outside and play and get dirty. Based on your poor use of grammar and punctuation the shoe may very well fit. As far as your call for "objectivity" goes, juventus were afforded as much of it as possible before they had points deducted and before they went down to Serie B......for trying to spend dirty money to somehow influence games. If you want to talk about "coward football" then talk about that. Otherwise, ride out wit yuh ole talk and stfu.
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2012, 03:00:56 PM
The big man for the occasion.
A big loss to the EPL and he will be sorely missed.
Italy and Juventus had the "divine ponytail", well Chelsea had the "divine perm".
They should retire his #11 number.
Long live the Drogs!!
:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:
Post by: mukumsplau on May 22, 2012, 07:42:48 PM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
do a little reading and while at it apply objective thinking if posible. in the google age there is no reason to live in ignorance.
No need, I was watching things as they unfolded. I leave "google" and all those things to little youths of today that don't know how to go outside and play and get dirty. Based on your poor use of grammar and punctuation the shoe may very well fit. As far as your call for "objectivity" goes, juventus were afforded as much of it as possible before they had points deducted and before they went down to Serie B......for trying to spend dirty money to somehow influence games. If you want to talk about "coward football" then talk about that. Otherwise, ride out wit yuh ole talk and stfu.
watch how things unfolded? unless you know about the personalities and cults involved in italian football then quite frankly you aint know shit. the investigation and trial was rushed and material was selectively entered as evidence. if u were so fascinated by calciopoli 1 did u follow calciopoli 2 where it was established that we were not in violation of the articles that we were said to have violated? did u know that if ALL the material was entered as evidence then the milan clubs would have gone down to serie C? did u know that juventus was subsequently cleared of impropriety and that moggi was acting on his own? the authorities of calcio be it the league/italian fa even the investigators and prosecuters are milan stooges and moratti and berlusconi's empires ensure that they can influence/corrupt and manipulate..
and they made sure to drag out calciopoli 2 guess why? so the statute of limitations would have expired so as it stands the milan clubs cannot be prosecuted in light of the very damning evidence that has "emerged"
it actually makes for good reading...like a drama playing out..
at the end of the day, chelsea won on the scoreboard but for a team so expensively assembled they played like pussies for a good stretch of games...cowardice..
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 22, 2012, 08:48:49 PM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
do a little reading and while at it apply objective thinking if posible. in the google age there is no reason to live in ignorance.
No need, I was watching things as they unfolded. I leave "google" and all those things to little youths of today that don't know how to go outside and play and get dirty. Based on your poor use of grammar and punctuation the shoe may very well fit. As far as your call for "objectivity" goes, juventus were afforded as much of it as possible before they had points deducted and before they went down to Serie B......for trying to spend dirty money to somehow influence games. If you want to talk about "coward football" then talk about that. Otherwise, ride out wit yuh ole talk and stfu.
watch how things unfolded? unless you know about the personalities and cults involved in italian football then quite frankly you aint know shit. the investigation and trial was rushed and material was selectively entered as evidence. if u were so fascinated by calciopoli 1 did u follow calciopoli 2 where it was established that we were not in violation of the articles that we were said to have violated? did u know that if ALL the material was entered as evidence then the milan clubs would have gone down to serie C? did u know that juventus was subsequently cleared of impropriety and that moggi was acting on his own? the authorities of calcio be it the league/italian fa even the investigators and prosecuters are milan stooges and moratti and berlusconi's empires ensure that they can influence/corrupt and manipulate..
and they made sure to drag out calciopoli 2 guess why? so the statute of limitations would have expired so as it stands the milan clubs cannot be prosecuted in light of the very damning evidence that has "emerged"
it actually makes for good reading...like a drama playing out..
at the end of the day, chelsea won on the scoreboard but for a team so expensively assembled they played like pussies for a good stretch of games...cowardice..
like I give a f**k that moggi "acted alone". he acted on behalf of juventus while he was an official of juventus and the team benefitted from his actions. Maybe yuh google it and find yuh morals on the internet, too but the fact that he could even make calls to the man selecting referees to matches speaks volumes of the practice in and of itself. Just so you know, "watched it unfold" means, for YEARS I watched juventus get loads of favourable calls and when the shit hit the fan, I came to understand why. A team as successful as this doesn't need help and whether he "acted alone" or not, it's a f**kin' cowwardly act. I guarantee you that no Chelsea official is going to lower football to those depths. Maybe moggi thought his own players were too pussy to go out on the field and handle their own business themselves.
Post by: mukumsplau on May 22, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
coward football
I cyah think of anything more cowardly than being one of the top clubs in your country (and possibly even the world) and still feeling that you have to bribe officials to win your domestic league.
do a little reading and while at it apply objective thinking if posible. in the google age there is no reason to live in ignorance.
No need, I was watching things as they unfolded. I leave "google" and all those things to little youths of today that don't know how to go outside and play and get dirty. Based on your poor use of grammar and punctuation the shoe may very well fit. As far as your call for "objectivity" goes, juventus were afforded as much of it as possible before they had points deducted and before they went down to Serie B......for trying to spend dirty money to somehow influence games. If you want to talk about "coward football" then talk about that. Otherwise, ride out wit yuh ole talk and stfu.
watch how things unfolded? unless you know about the personalities and cults involved in italian football then quite frankly you aint know shit. the investigation and trial was rushed and material was selectively entered as evidence. if u were so fascinated by calciopoli 1 did u follow calciopoli 2 where it was established that we were not in violation of the articles that we were said to have violated? did u know that if ALL the material was entered as evidence then the milan clubs would have gone down to serie C? did u know that juventus was subsequently cleared of impropriety and that moggi was acting on his own? the authorities of calcio be it the league/italian fa even the investigators and prosecuters are milan stooges and moratti and berlusconi's empires ensure that they can influence/corrupt and manipulate..
and they made sure to drag out calciopoli 2 guess why? so the statute of limitations would have expired so as it stands the milan clubs cannot be prosecuted in light of the very damning evidence that has "emerged"
it actually makes for good reading...like a drama playing out..
at the end of the day, chelsea won on the scoreboard but for a team so expensively assembled they played like pussies for a good stretch of games...cowardice..
like I give a f**k that moggi "acted alone". he acted on behalf of juventus while he was an official of juventus and the team benefitted from his actions. Maybe yuh google it and find yuh morals on the internet, too but the fact that he could even make calls to the man selecting referees to matches speaks volumes of the practice in and of itself. Just so you know, "watched it unfold" means, for YEARS I watched juventus get loads of favourable calls and when the shit hit the fan, I came to understand why. A team as successful as this doesn't need help and whether he "acted alone" or not, it's a f**kin' cowwardly act. I guarantee you that no Chelsea official is going to lower football to those depths. Maybe moggi thought his own players were too pussy to go out on the field and handle their own business themselves.
u aint even address the milan sides involvement...just as how you hanging moggi for the phone conversations they intercepted have a look at the ones they intercepted involving moratti...u hanging juve? hang ac milan when they were rightfully demoted to serie b rightfully for worse...they came back up to serie a then were relegated on merit to serie b...the situation is rife in italian football
unfortunately the unholy alliances led by moratti successfully manipuated perception of juventus worldover...from italy to timbuktu...we will be seeking redress to the tune of 444mil euro..that hadda come out somebody pocket...right now figc bamsee squeakin....they even invited us to sit at a 'peace table' with moratti..during and after the meeting we realised they still on shit and we would be proceeding to make those responsible cough up that 444mil
a lil excerpt..
Inter are alleged to have committed sporting fraud during Calciopoli by the same man who last week said Juventus had no chance of having their 2006 Scudetto handed back.
FIGC (Italian FA) chief investigator Stefano Palazzi believes Inter are responsible for having committed sporting fraud during the 2005-06 season which subsequently led to the football scandal in Italy.
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Speaking to Ansa, Palazzi said: "Inter violated the article relative to sporting fraud with regards to the possibility of taking advantages in the standings."
His comments are based on what has emerged from the current Calciopoli 2 trial at the Tribunal of Naples where evidence shows former Inter directors had contact with referees and a number of other high-profile Italian football leaders between 2004 and 2006.
Transcripts from wire taps identified by the Tribunal of Naples showed Former Inter president Giacinto Facchetti had regular contact with former referee designators Paolo Bergamo and Pier Luigi Pairetto.
Palazzi also claimed Inter were "directly responsible for having secured an advantage in the league standings by conditioning the regular function of the referee sector."
ah tiyad an chelsea's knockout run was not the stuff of champions...i dont know why men cant knock dey side when it so obvious
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 22, 2012, 10:39:15 PM
Post by: sammy on May 23, 2012, 06:49:02 AM
Goodbye to Drogba... A true, true legend.
The big man for the occasion.
A big loss to the EPL and he will be sorely missed.
Italy and Juventus had the "divine ponytail", well Chelsea had the "divine perm".
They should retire his #11 number.
Long live the Drogs!!
:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:
Yeah boy.............i doh like chelsea....but u cyah like football and dont like the Drogz...
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Post by: Blue on May 24, 2012, 12:30:45 AM
Chelsea set to release Salomon Kalou and Jose Bosingwa
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18185485
Chelsea are set to release both Salomon Kalou and Jose Bosingwa when their contracts expire in the summer.
The club will announce their retained list later on Thursday and both names are likely to be omitted along with that of striker Didier Drogba.
The Ivorian has already announced that he will leave the club after eight years to seek a "new challenge".
Bosingwa had a one-year option on his contract at Stamford Bridge, but the club have opted not to take it up.
Kalou, an Ivory Coast international team-mate of Drogba, signed from Feyenoord in 2006 for a fee believed to be in the region of £8m.
The 26-year-old made more than 250 appearances, including a start in Chelsea's Champions League final victory against Bayern Munich on Saturday, and scored 60 goals for the Blues.
Bosingwa, 29, was signed by the club following his performances for Portugal during Euro 2008 after Luiz Felipe Scolari, his then national coach, took charge of the club.
The defender arrived from Porto for a fee of £16.2m, making 127 appearances during a four-year spell.
Post by: kicker on May 24, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
Goodbye to Drogba... A true, true legend.
The big man for the occasion.
A big loss to the EPL and he will be sorely missed.
Italy and Juventus had the "divine ponytail", well Chelsea had the "divine perm".
They should retire his #11 number.
Long live the Drogs!!
:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:
Cosign...
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2012, 08:45:15 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 24, 2012, 09:23:02 AM
Post by: kicker on May 24, 2012, 09:29:45 AM
Ryan you really thought Bosingwa was staying? lol. Is long time now he needed to ride in my opinion oui. I and a bredrin always use to argue about him with me defending him only because Paolo eh able but truth be told Bosingwa isn't of much use, especially when a central midfielder like Ivanovic is more productive in attack while playing LB and is a much better defender. I hope we get a good wing back for the position that can cross as replacement. Kalou was always goin so thatnks an good luck to he.
I hear Barca might overs Dani Alves... Allyuh should put in a bid.
I seeing a massive bidding war between Chelsea and Man City this season.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 24, 2012, 09:34:23 AM
Ryan you really thought Bosingwa was staying? lol. Is long time now he needed to ride in my opinion oui. I and a bredrin always use to argue about him with me defending him only because Paolo eh able but truth be told Bosingwa isn't of much use, especially when a central midfielder like Ivanovic is more productive in attack while playing LB and is a much better defender. I hope we get a good wing back for the position that can cross as replacement. Kalou was always goin so thatnks an good luck to he.
I hear Barca might overs Dani Alves... Allyuh should put in a bid.
I seeing a massive bidding war between Chelsea and Man City this season.
Alves would be a dream!
Post by: lefty on May 24, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
enjoy
Drogba
http://www.youtube.com/v/etKJm7i0K6I
Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
Post by: DeSoWa on May 24, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
Goodbye to Drogba... A true, true legend.
The big man for the occasion.
A big loss to the EPL and he will be sorely missed.
Italy and Juventus had the "divine ponytail", well Chelsea had the "divine perm".
They should retire his #11 number.
Long live the Drogs!!
:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:
haha at first glance I thought I saw "Diving Ponytail" and "Diving Perm" oui :rotfl:
Big Up!
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 24, 2012, 06:41:02 PM
Goodbye to Drogba... A true, true legend.
The big man for the occasion.
A big loss to the EPL and he will be sorely missed.
Italy and Juventus had the "divine ponytail", well Chelsea had the "divine perm".
They should retire his #11 number.
Long live the Drogs!!
:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:
haha at first glance I thought I saw "Diving Ponytail" and "Diving Perm" oui :rotfl:
Big Up!
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Post by: Mango Chow! on May 24, 2012, 10:01:58 PM
I eh go miss either Kalou or Bosingwa. all de bess in allyuh future endeavours, fellas. :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Post by: Big Magician on May 24, 2012, 10:55:46 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 25, 2012, 05:23:33 AM
well some here say Kenwyne is the new Drogba...so is a straight swap
Yuh rel wicked lol hahahahaha
Post by: lefty on May 25, 2012, 06:28:58 AM
well some here say Kenwyne is the new Drogba...so is a straight swap
u is rel comedian oui :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on May 27, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
Post by: 2cents on May 28, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Post by: Blue on May 28, 2012, 04:10:31 PM
Hazard to Chelsea he just announce
Boom bang :beermug:
To be honest, I will have to go look him up on Youtube, I've never seen him play lol. I've been following him on Twitter recently though and he seems like an imps, so I wont believe it until the club announce it.
But who wouldn't want to play for the European Champions? ;D
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 28, 2012, 09:34:07 PM
Hazard to Chelsea he just announce
Boom bang :beermug:
To be honest, I will have to go look him up on Youtube, I've never seen him play lol. I've been following him on Twitter recently though and he seems like an imps, so I wont believe it until the club announce it.
But who wouldn't want to play for the European Champions? ;D
He is a glory hunter and a wagonnist. and his lack of humility turned me off a great deal. but if its true that he comin, hell be a force on that wing, with mata in centre and ramires/marin and lampy and mikel in those defensive roles, midfield will be looking real sexy
Post by: dinho on June 05, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
Love the fact that he can operate on the left as well as in attacking mid, it gives Mata the option to move central where he is most effective and swap with Hazard in games. Also gives Chelsea some younger legs in midfield and Lampard can be phased out as I doubt he has another full season at peak form left in him.
Of course my only issue is his conduct in the press. With all the talk he talk, he set himself up big time. If he gets off to a slow start the press will have a field day with him ready to call him the latest overpriced money hungry flop in football. The whole time I wondering why this Hazard doh hush he cyaw.
Now all Chelsea needs to do is get Hulk to play on the right side of Torres with the option to move central if Torres still cant get his act together. Then a Van Der Wiel or Dani Alves for the right back spot and they will be back in title contention where they belong..
Oh...
And the little matter of the coach needs to be sorted out.
Post by: kicker on June 06, 2012, 08:29:15 AM
He getting alot of press but the jury still out on that fella for me... I not seeing the hype.
Post by: dinho on June 06, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
Omar you rate Hulk?
He getting alot of press but the jury still out on that fella for me... I not seeing the hype.
I rate Hulk alot from what i've seen of him..
Very direct player, very strong on the ball and technically very, very good...
I think he's exactly what Chelsea needs for that right side where Sturridge has been makeshifting this last season, he can play in tandem with Torres like how he played with Falcao season before. He can also operate up front as the target striker if Torres doesn't catch himself next season. Plenty upside if this deal happens.
Post by: mukumsplau on June 06, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
Omar you rate Hulk?
He getting alot of press but the jury still out on that fella for me... I not seeing the hype.
I rate Hulk alot from what i've seen of him..
Very direct player, very strong on the ball and technically very, very good...
I think he's exactly what Chelsea needs for that right side where Sturridge has been makeshifting this last season, he can play in tandem with Torres like how he played with Falcao season before. He can also operate up front as the target striker if Torres doesn't catch himself next season. Plenty upside if this deal happens.
that right there is a crucial element of this thing....and if torres return to the player of old....jeezann ages...hulk is a beast...torres will get alot of help playing with hulk in that forward line..defenders wouldnt know what to do wit deyself
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 11, 2012, 07:00:25 AM
Post by: Tongue on June 13, 2012, 10:43:37 AM
RDM to be named manager later in the week......back to work, Chelsea!
its official with a 2yr contract
Post by: lefty on June 13, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 13, 2012, 11:16:20 AM
wonder he have "attractive" football in him.........given how badly RA wanted to change Chelsea style of play he might be able to pull an ancelotti which was d best of both worlds stingy pragmatic defense meets marauding flowing attack
naaaahhhh, dize a transition that eh go come overnight, it have to be a combination of they style change coming up within the youth system along with the types of players (and coaches) they bring in, especially in the senior team(s)
Post by: lefty on June 13, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
wonder he have "attractive" football in him.........given how badly RA wanted to change Chelsea style of play he might be able to pull an ancelotti which was d best of both worlds stingy pragmatic defense meets marauding flowing attack
naaaahhhh, dize a transition that eh go come overnight, it have to be a combination of they style change coming up within the youth system along with the types of players (and coaches) they bring in, especially in the senior team(s)
yeah but remember Ancelotti an dem did what they did with a "Mourinho side", a mean dem fellas won't no labourers and were certainly capable of what they did that year....but it wasn't in d team DNA per say, it was "instilled" highest scoring record to boot
I am still of the humble view dat roman did f**k up ah good ting
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 13, 2012, 11:50:13 AM
wonder he have "attractive" football in him.........given how badly RA wanted to change Chelsea style of play he might be able to pull an ancelotti which was d best of both worlds stingy pragmatic defense meets marauding flowing attack
naaaahhhh, dize a transition that eh go come overnight, it have to be a combination of they style change coming up within the youth system along with the types of players (and coaches) they bring in, especially in the senior team(s)
yeah but remember Ancelotti an dem did what they did with a "Mourinho side", a mean dem fellas won't no labourers and were certainly capable of what they did that year....but it wasn't in d team DNA per say, it was "instilled" highest scoring record to boot
I am still of the humble view dat roman did f**k up ah good ting
Yeah, yuh have a good point dey. Oh shit! Yuh have TWO ("I am still of the humble view dat roman did f**k up ah good ting") good points!
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 14, 2012, 11:19:36 AM
wonder he have "attractive" football in him.........given how badly RA wanted to change Chelsea style of play he might be able to pull an ancelotti which was d best of both worlds stingy pragmatic defense meets marauding flowing attack
naaaahhhh, dize a transition that eh go come overnight, it have to be a combination of they style change coming up within the youth system along with the types of players (and coaches) they bring in, especially in the senior team(s)
yeah but remember Ancelotti an dem did what they did with a "Mourinho side", a mean dem fellas won't no labourers and were certainly capable of what they did that year....but it wasn't in d team DNA per say, it was "instilled" highest scoring record to boot
I am still of the humble view dat roman did f**k up ah good ting
I agree with yuh. I feel with the right coach he could get it out of them like Ancelloti did. RVB probably could have done it if his man management style was better. Plus look at the players we bringing in or chasing. Hazad, Marin, Hulk, Van Derwheil. Then combine that with Mata, Torres, Ramires, etc. If we get all those players we will more than have the pieces to play an attacking brand while defensively being good. RA like to meddle to damn much but at least I am glad to see he did the right thing and give RDM a chance. Despite the style he employed he garnered 2 trophies in what looked to be a totally lost season so he earned himself a chance IMO
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 14, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
wonder he have "attractive" football in him.........given how badly RA wanted to change Chelsea style of play he might be able to pull an ancelotti which was d best of both worlds stingy pragmatic defense meets marauding flowing attack
naaaahhhh, dize a transition that eh go come overnight, it have to be a combination of they style change coming up within the youth system along with the types of players (and coaches) they bring in, especially in the senior team(s)
yeah but remember Ancelotti an dem did what they did with a "Mourinho side", a mean dem fellas won't no labourers and were certainly capable of what they did that year....but it wasn't in d team DNA per say, it was "instilled" highest scoring record to boot
I am still of the humble view dat roman did f**k up ah good ting
I agree with yuh. I feel with the right coach he could get it out of them like Ancelloti did. RVB probably could have done it if his man management style was better. Plus look at the players we bringing in or chasing. Hazad, Marin, Hulk, Van Derwheil. Then combine that with Mata, Torres, Ramires, etc. If we get all those players we will more than have the pieces to play an attacking brand while defensively being good. RA like to meddle to damn much but at least I am glad to see he did the right thing and give RDM a chance. Despite the style he employed he garnered 2 trophies in what looked to be a totally lost season so he earned himself a chance IMO
Roman like a double edge sword....we glad he does rel spend he money and doh back-squeeze like a jew but he does use it as a permission slip to overstep his expertise....he is really a hammer and a sickle!
Post by: asylumseeker on June 21, 2012, 07:23:25 AM
Post by: Sando on June 29, 2012, 10:19:06 AM
Delta becomes "Official Airline Partner of Chelsea FC"
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LONDON, June 25, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) has made its first signing of a UK soccer club by striking a multi-year deal to become Chelsea Football Club's official airline sponsor. The deal brings together two major international brands: Delta, a leading global airline; and Chelsea FC, the champions of Europe. The partnership will commence in July 2012.
Delta will be exclusively designated as the "Official Airline Partner of Chelsea FC" and the agreement will give Delta numerous benefits including: LED exposure at each home game and exposure on the Chelsea FC website. The Delta logo will also be included on media backboards for interviews conducted at Chelsea's stadium around Premier League home matches.
Additionally, Delta will benefit from entitlement space at Stamford Bridge's Millennium Hotel, enabling the airline to entertain guests at Chelsea's home in a Delta-branded environment.
Delta is synonymous with sport in the United States where the airline is the official airline sponsor of leading U.S. sports teams including baseball's New York Yankees, hockey's Los Angeles Kings and American football's Minnesota Vikings. This summer, Delta will welcome the Chelsea FC team as they tour the United States. In July, they will play the French team, Paris Saint-Germain, at the new Yankee Stadium, which is also sponsored by Delta.
"We're delighted to sponsor Chelsea FC, a top-flight London club with a fan base of millions throughout Delta's worldwide network," said Perry Cantarutti, Delta's senior vice-president for Europe, the Middle East and Africa. "Partnering with a leading club in the English Premier League is an exciting way to strengthen our brand both in the UK and around the world while a tie-in with Delta will help build Chelsea's brand in the U.S."
This year's winner of the Champions League and The FA Cup, Chelsea FC is one of the best-supported clubs worldwide and allows Delta to reach an international audience of more than one billion.
"It is a fantastic opportunity for Chelsea Football Club to partner ourselves with Delta Air Lines, an industry leader in aviation," said Chelsea FC Chief Executive Ron Gourlay. "Their passion for innovation and first-class service around the world make them a perfect match for us and we look forward to working together as we continue to develop the Chelsea name across the globe."
To celebrate the Delta-Chelsea FC partnership and help kick off the team's U.S. tour, customers can visit Delta's Facebook page to vote for a U.S. city to host a fare promotion from the United States to London this summer. Visit Facebook.com/Delta to vote.
Delta Air Lines serves more than 160 million customers each year. During the past year, Delta was named domestic "Airline of the Year" by the readers of Travel Weekly magazine, was named the "Top Tech-Friendly U.S. Airline" by PCWorld magazine for its innovation in technology and won the Business Travel News Annual Airline Survey. With an industry-leading global network, Delta and the Delta Connection carriers offer service to nearly 350 destinations in 65 countries on six continents. Headquartered in Atlanta, Delta employs 80,000 employees worldwide and operates a mainline fleet of more than 700 aircraft.
A founding member of the SkyTeam global alliance, Delta participates in the industry's leading trans-Atlantic joint venture with Air France-KLM and Alitalia. Including its worldwide alliance partners, Delta offers customers more than 13,000 daily flights, with hubs in Amsterdam, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-LaGuardia, New York-JFK, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Salt Lake City and Tokyo-Narita. The airline's service includes the SkyMiles frequent flier program, a world-class airline loyalty program; the award-winning BusinessElite service; and more than 50 Delta Sky Clubs in airports worldwide. Delta is investing more than $3 billion through 2013 in airport facilities and global products, services and technology to enhance the customer experience in the air and on the ground. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes, check bags and review flight status at delta.com.
Post by: elan on July 07, 2012, 11:27:09 AM
Ivory Coast forward Salomon Kalou has joined French side Lille on a four-year deal.
The 26-year-old was available on a free transfer after seeing out his contract with Chelsea last month.
Kalou ended his Chelsea career on a high when winning the European Champions League in his final match.
"Lille is an ambitious club," Kalou told the club website. "From what I have already learned, Lille has nothing to envy the top clubs of Europe."
Kalou joined Chelsea in 2006 and won both the Champions League and FA Cup in his final season with the club.
The former Feyenoord star also won the league title during his time with the English club.
Lille, who won the French league and cup double in 2011, are strengthening following the sale of Eden Hazard to Kalou's old club Chelsea and the return of Joe Cole to Liverpool.
Having finished third last season, the club will once again be playing Champions League football in the new season.
Post by: dinho on July 07, 2012, 08:09:52 PM
Salomon Kalou joins former French champions Lille (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18754735)
Ivory Coast forward Salomon Kalou has joined French side Lille on a four-year deal.
The 26-year-old was available on a free transfer after seeing out his contract with Chelsea last month.
Kalou ended his Chelsea career on a high when winning the European Champions League in his final match.
"Lille is an ambitious club," Kalou told the club website. "From what I have already learned, Lille has nothing to envy the top clubs of Europe."
Kalou joined Chelsea in 2006 and won both the Champions League and FA Cup in his final season with the club.
The former Feyenoord star also won the league title during his time with the English club.
Lille, who won the French league and cup double in 2011, are strengthening following the sale of Eden Hazard to Kalou's old club Chelsea and the return of Joe Cole to Liverpool.
Having finished third last season, the club will once again be playing Champions League football in the new season.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 11, 2012, 04:48:50 PM
Salomon Kalou joins former French champions Lille (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18754735)
Ivory Coast forward Salomon Kalou has joined French side Lille on a four-year deal.
The 26-year-old was available on a free transfer after seeing out his contract with Chelsea last month.
Kalou ended his Chelsea career on a high when winning the European Champions League in his final match.
"Lille is an ambitious club," Kalou told the club website. "From what I have already learned, Lille has nothing to envy the top clubs of Europe."
Kalou joined Chelsea in 2006 and won both the Champions League and FA Cup in his final season with the club.
The former Feyenoord star also won the league title during his time with the English club.
Lille, who won the French league and cup double in 2011, are strengthening following the sale of Eden Hazard to Kalou's old club Chelsea and the return of Joe Cole to Liverpool.
Having finished third last season, the club will once again be playing Champions League football in the new season.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Which door?! He was gettin' release in Waterloo Station.
Post by: truetrini on July 27, 2012, 08:40:14 PM
A Man ask Torres if he feel he deserved a Champions League Medal...lol Jes kicksing.
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Post by: Mango Chow! on August 19, 2012, 11:22:32 AM
thinkin bout grabbin one ah dese (http://www.chelseamegastore.com/stores/chelsea/products/product_details.aspx?pid=115560) dreadin d cash outlay ....all tings considered(shipping and such) close to $1000.00TT :( ..... lil frivolous considering d economy but ah tinking ;D :-[ :P ...............
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Dize a rel nice shirt!! Doh study nobody nuh!
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1000? :bs:
doh worry my brain clockin d same thoughts ....still tinkin on it doh.....an ah doubt d price goh drop too soon
boy I not really in d mind set to drop $1000 on one shirt especially as ah want to wear it, if was solely ah keep sake to frame maybe, but ah want to wear d damn ting and ah done spend ah cool 7g's on a new Camera and accessories and still looking at a zoom lensthinkin bout grabbin one ah dese (http://www.chelseamegastore.com/stores/chelsea/products/product_details.aspx?pid=115560) dreadin d cash outlay ....all tings considered(shipping and such) close to $1000.00TT :( ..... lil frivolous considering d economy but ah tinking ;D :-[ :P ...............
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Dize a rel nice shirt!! Doh study nobody nuh!
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Why you paying so much for that? Shouldn't run you more than $500 or $600 tops even with all the badges and trimmings.
If you want a link pm me i'll send you contact for the person i order from in the UK.
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Why you paying so much for that? Shouldn't run you more than $500 or $600 tops even with all the badges and trimmings.
If you want a link pm me i'll send you contact for the person i order from in the UK.
ah factoring possible shipping costs plus is 97US in chelsea mega didn't see any other prices, but send me the link nah
thanks
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Why you paying so much for that? Shouldn't run you more than $500 or $600 tops even with all the badges and trimmings.
If you want a link pm me i'll send you contact for the person i order from in the UK.
Whatever price yuh pay for in in the UK, do NOT let them state the (proper) value of the item when shipping to Trinidad. the "duty" on it will be criminal!
Post by: Football supporter on August 20, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
Rix to become Central FC coach
Thursday, August 16 2012
RECENTLY-FORMED local football club Central FC is set to hire former Arsenal and England midfielder Graham Rix as its first-ever team coach.
According to a media release from the club, Rix was introduced to Central FC’s staff at a training session on Monday morning at the Presentation College Ground, Chaguanas.
The team was formed by ex-national defender and North East Stars’ Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Brent Sancho last month and had been inviting players to train, as the club is seeking a spot in the 2012/2013 Pro League season.
With regards to the team’s participation in the League, the club officials, on Tuesday, met with the Pro League Board, as well as CEO Dexter Skeene.
“We’ve provided all of the required information including a comprehensive marketing plan,” Sancho said. “Obviously, the league has to perform its due diligence, but we are confident that we meet their criteria.”
Sancho continued, “It’s fantastic to have Graham Rix here to assist us. Obviously, until our Pro League membership is confirmed, we can’t offer any contracts. However, we are hopeful that Graham will like what he sees and will agree to join us once we’re a Pro League club.
“I met Graham at Dundee and was really impressed with his coaching style. Graham won all kinds of trophies as a player and a coach and it’s a true testament of his standing in the game that after his six-month prison sentence in 1999, he could resume his career at Chelsea.
“His experience with the Glenn Hoddle Academy in Spain will really assist this club in identifying talent.”
Rix’s deputies will be former national players Kevin Jeffrey and Anthony Sherwood.
“We are four weeks behind in preparation and for the next few days, the emphasis is on fitness and letting the players get comfortable with each other,” said Jeffrey.
Sherwood added, “we will be reducing the numbers down and Graham will be assisting us in the selection process. We’ve been lucky as most of this group are professionals who have maintained their fitness.
“We just need to get some sharpness into them over the next week so they’ll be ready for the coach to develop his team tactics.”
The team, who will also be known as the Sharks, are hoping to confirm a partnership with Presentation College which will see the club using the school as their training facility.
“The principal has been very supportive and the partnership will bring benefits for both parties,” said Sancho.
Central FC will also be dealing with off-the-field activities, according to Operations Director Kevin Harrison. “Now we have players in training, Brent and I can concentrate on our marketing plan and community projects,” stated Harrison.
The 56-year-old Rix played 17 times for England, between 1980-1984, including five matches at the 1982 World Cup in Spain.
At club level, he scored 41 times in 351 appearances for Arsenal from 1975-1988, followed by spells in France with Caen (nine goals in 89 games from 1988-1991) and Le Havre (12 games in 1991-1992), and later Dundee (two goals in 14 matches in 1992-1993) and Chelsea (one game in 1995).
He began his coaching career at the youth level with Chelsea in 1993, and served as assistant to Ruud Gullit and Gianluca Vialli in the late 1990s.
He was a caretaker manager at Chelsea, for one match, in September 2000 followed by stints with Portsmouth (56 games with 16 victories from February 2001 to March 2002) and Oxford United (29 matches with six wins from March-November 2004).
His last coaching job was with Hearts in Scotland, from November 2005-March 2006, before he was sacked by owner Vladimir Romanov after winning nine out of his 19 games.
Post by: Blue on August 22, 2012, 04:02:45 PM
- This will definitely be a different Chelsea this season...we are much more focused on attacking than last year but will be more vulnerable in defence. I could see many more 4-2 games on the horizon. We ended the game with a setta small men on the pitch and I'm worried that we will turn into Arsenal (i.e. pushovers). The real test will be when we come up against Newcastle (on Saturday) or Stoke and have to battle physically rather than play pretty passes. I'd expect either Ramires or Bertrand to continue to start in one of the three attacking midfield positions to try and offer some defensive cover.
- We no longer have the option of playing long ball passes, which Reading exploited at times, pressing us very high up the pitch and causing the defence to relinquish the ball several times. Better teams will punish us using that tactic.
- Hazard is the real deal, he is a very, very good player. Three more assists tonight and he was the offensive spark for us tonight, the go-to guy starting most of our attacks. He and Mata will be poison.
- Oscar will also be a big player. He might take a bit longer to settle in but you could see that he is a confident, talented baller.
- Torres still has mental issues. He started and ended the game well but for long periods he was non-existent and reluctant to present himself in the box. At least he got a goal, hopefully that will help his confidence.
Post by: Bakes on August 22, 2012, 08:32:25 PM
Just back from the game...first home match of the season a 4-2 victory against Reading, a scoreline that somewhat flattered us...it was a hard fought victory. A few observations:
- This will definitely be a different Chelsea this season...we are much more focused on attacking than last year but will be more vulnerable in defence. I could see many more 4-2 games on the horizon. We ended the game with a setta small men on the pitch and I'm worried that we will turn into Arsenal (i.e. pushovers). The real test will be when we come up against Newcastle (on Saturday) or Stoke and have to battle physically rather than play pretty passes. I'd expect either Ramires or Bertrand to continue to start in one of the three attacking midfield positions to try and offer some defensive cover.
- We no longer have the option of playing long ball passes, which Reading exploited at times, pressing us very high up the pitch and causing the defence to relinquish the ball several times. Better teams will punish us using that tactic.
- Hazard is the real deal, he is a very, very good player. Three more assists tonight and he was the offensive spark for us tonight, the go-to guy starting most of our attacks. He and Mata will be poison.
- Oscar will also be a big player. He might take a bit longer to settle in but you could see that he is a confident, talented baller.
- Torres still has mental issues. He started and ended the game well but for long periods he was non-existent and reluctant to present himself in the box. At least he got a goal, hopefully that will help his confidence.
Somewhat?? lol
Reading outplayed Chelsea most of the game, both Torres and Hazard was quiet most of the second half until the Reading keeper decide to let Cahill score from midfield. Torres was clearly offside on the goal to put Chelsea up 3-2... then the 4th goal came from Reading chasing the game when the keeper left the box to go into the Chelsea goal on a corner and get ketch on the counter.
Post by: Blue on August 23, 2012, 12:37:50 AM
Somewhat?? lol
Reading outplayed Chelsea most of the game.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Posession: Chelsea 71% Reading 29%
Shots: Chelsea 21 Reading 6
Passes: Chelsea 651 Reading 234
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2012, 01:14:43 AM
Somewhat?? lol
Reading outplayed Chelsea most of the game.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Posession: Chelsea 71% Reading 29%
Shots: Chelsea 21 Reading 6
Passes: Chelsea 651 Reading 234
None of that amounts to anything... Chelsea sure kicked the ball around midfield a lot. According to the Guardian, 27 shots... 7 on target. Reading, 7 shots, 4 on target. Cahill fluke goal and Torres offside goal is what giving yuh confidence to suggest Chelsea had a much better game than they actually did. Ivanovic's breakaway goal only adding to the delusion... but say what, we'll see how much of an aberration the Cech shocker and the shaky defense today was.
Post by: Cocorite on August 23, 2012, 02:50:14 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 23, 2012, 07:55:19 AM
Somewhat?? lol
Reading outplayed Chelsea most of the game.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Posession: Chelsea 71% Reading 29%
Shots: Chelsea 21 Reading 6
Passes: Chelsea 651 Reading 234
None of that amounts to anything... Chelsea sure kicked the ball around midfield a lot. According to the Guardian, 27 shots... 7 on target. Reading, 7 shots, 4 on target. Cahill fluke goal and Torres offside goal is what giving yuh confidence to suggest Chelsea had a much better game than they actually did. Ivanovic's breakaway goal only adding to the delusion... but say what, we'll see how much of an aberration the Cech shocker and the shaky defense today was.
Study whether the leaks will cause allyuh to walk alone nah lol. Dis thread is a Champions thread, rebuilding team fans shouldn be hea ;D
Post by: lefty on August 23, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
Somewhat?? lol
Reading outplayed Chelsea most of the game.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Posession: Chelsea 71% Reading 29%
Shots: Chelsea 21 Reading 6
Passes: Chelsea 651 Reading 234
None of that amounts to anything... Chelsea sure kicked the ball around midfield a lot. According to the Guardian, 27 shots... 7 on target. Reading, 7 shots, 4 on target. Cahill fluke goal and Torres offside goal is what giving yuh confidence to suggest Chelsea had a much better game than they actually did. Ivanovic's breakaway goal only adding to the delusion... but say what, we'll see how much of an aberration the Cech shocker and the shaky defense today was.
Study whether the leaks will cause allyuh to walk alone nah lol. Dis thread is a Champions thread, rebuilding team fans shouldn be hea ;D
under all d ole talk we scoring goals but we leakin dem too and if we ent leak none we were lucky.....wigan had some good looks on sunday and didn't capitalize ..........also.....d preseason didn' look to hot either.......all causes for concern winning or not IMO
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 23, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
under all d ole talk we scoring goals but we leakin dem too and if we ent leak none we were lucky.....wigan had some good looks on sunday and didn't capitalize ..........also.....d preseason didn' look to hot either.......all causes for concern winning or not IMO
No argument here. The reality is that if we have to play a more attacking brand we will leave gaps on the counter. As long as we can try and minimize it we will be ok doh. The quick ball movement will aid in us managing that once we can keep it and not turn it over in the middle.
Post by: lefty on August 23, 2012, 12:48:41 PM
under all d ole talk we scoring goals but we leakin dem too and if we ent leak none we were lucky.....wigan had some good looks on sunday and didn't capitalize ..........also.....d preseason didn' look to hot either.......all causes for concern winning or not IMO
No argument here. The reality is that if we have to play a more attacking brand we will leave gaps on the counter. As long as we can try and minimize it we will be ok doh. The quick ball movement will aid in us managing that once we can keep it and not turn it over in the middle.
but this where I have issues underAncelotti had both d goal scoring and defensive records for that year and d brand was sweet..... dis brand good but we have no more marauders (of note) in d team to lick dong walls or reinforce we own when needed...........maybe is jus me havin a tabanca for the "War Machine" ........dis team could slice dice an' penitrate but wah we goh do when we meet ah big tough ass wall with no hole to crawl through.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 23, 2012, 01:18:48 PM
under all d ole talk we scoring goals but we leakin dem too and if we ent leak none we were lucky.....wigan had some good looks on sunday and didn't capitalize ..........also.....d preseason didn' look to hot either.......all causes for concern winning or not IMO
No argument here. The reality is that if we have to play a more attacking brand we will leave gaps on the counter. As long as we can try and minimize it we will be ok doh. The quick ball movement will aid in us managing that once we can keep it and not turn it over in the middle.
but this where I have issues under Ancelotti had both d goal scoring and defensive records for that year and d brand was sweet..... dis brand good but we have no more marauders (of note) in d team to lick dong walls or reinforce we own when needed...........maybe is jus me havin a tabanca for the "War Machine" ........dis team could slice dice an' penitrate but wah we goh do when we meet ah big tough ass wall with no hole to crawl through.
Well daz when Roman decide to meddle so we cah live in de past. DiMatteo crafting he own style and given how defensively we played last year, I actually pleasantly surprised at how he have dem organizing. Even Lampard who use to slow dong tings and get in people way working well within the system. The defense will get better and hopefully we don't need Ivanovic at CB because he does just ha me on edge like he ready to pelt ah wild blade an geh ah red any minute.
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2012, 01:29:28 PM
Study whether the leaks will cause allyuh to walk alone nah lol. Dis thread is a Champions thread, rebuilding team fans shouldn be hea ;D
LOL... laugh now, yuh facka... doh worry we coming back up, might take ah while but we coming back up.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 23, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
Study whether the leaks will cause allyuh to walk alone nah lol. Dis thread is a Champions thread, rebuilding team fans shouldn be hea ;D
LOL... laugh now, yuh facka... doh worry we coming back up, might take ah while but we coming back up.
See you in about 5 years :D
Post by: lefty on August 23, 2012, 02:50:10 PM
under all d ole talk we scoring goals but we leakin dem too and if we ent leak none we were lucky.....wigan had some good looks on sunday and didn't capitalize ..........also.....d preseason didn' look to hot either.......all causes for concern winning or not IMO
No argument here. The reality is that if we have to play a more attacking brand we will leave gaps on the counter. As long as we can try and minimize it we will be ok doh. The quick ball movement will aid in us managing that once we can keep it and not turn it over in the middle.
but this where I have issues under Ancelotti had both d goal scoring and defensive records for that year and d brand was sweet..... dis brand good but we have no more marauders (of note) in d team to lick dong walls or reinforce we own when needed...........maybe is jus me havin a tabanca for the "War Machine" ........dis team could slice dice an' penitrate but wah we goh do when we meet ah big tough ass wall with no hole to crawl through.
Well daz when Roman decide to meddle so we cah live in de past. DiMatteo crafting he own style and given how defensively we played last year, I actually pleasantly surprised at how he have dem organizing. Even Lampard who use to slow dong tings and get in people way working well within the system. The defense will get better and hopefully we don't need Ivanovic at CB because he does just ha me on edge like he ready to pelt ah wild blade an geh ah red any minute.
yeah ah we cyar live in past daiz for sure ah still luv mih war machine doh brutal-precise-deadly....end of an era :( :'( :beermug:
Post by: elan on August 24, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
Post by: Blue on August 24, 2012, 01:54:42 PM
MOSES TRANSFER COMPLETED
Posted on: Fri 24 Aug 2012
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Victor Moses from Wigan Athletic.
The 21-year-old winger's last appearance in Wigan colours came in Chelsea's 2-0 win at the DW Stadium last weekend, when he caught the eye with his strong running out wide.
The Nigerian international is a product of the Crystal Palace youth academy and made his first team debut in late 2007.
After establishing himself with the Championship side, Moses transferred to Wigan at the end of January 2010 and quickly settled into life in the Barclays Premier League.
In total he played 74 league games for the Latics, following 58 for Crystal Palace.
At international level, Moses appeared for England from schoolboy up to Under 21, but has opted to represent Nigeria at senior level, and made his debut in February against Rwanda.
Post by: Blue on August 24, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
Post by: FF on August 24, 2012, 02:58:47 PM
I kinda confused by how we planning to register all these players in our squad, we over the limit for Premier League and well over for Champions League. Say what, daz Roman problem.
(http://rookery.s3.amazonaws.com/1903000/1903079_f322_625x625.jpg)
Post by: Bakes on August 24, 2012, 05:15:15 PM
I kinda confused by how we planning to register all these players in our squad, we over the limit for Premier League and well over for Champions League. Say what, daz Roman problem.
Kinda confused why Moses would leave a starting role at Wigan, where he's a star and key player for Roberto Martinez... to go ride bench as a squad player for Chelsea.
Post by: lefty on August 24, 2012, 05:41:45 PM
I kinda confused by how we planning to register all these players in our squad, we over the limit for Premier League and well over for Champions League. Say what, daz Roman problem.
Kinda confused why Moses would leave a starting role at Wigan, where he's a star and key player for Roberto Martinez... to go ride bench as a squad player for Chelsea.
he looked plenty useful for wigan, but d system we have eh seem to have much place for out and out wingers unless dey feel he speed could be useful ??? in a CR7 kinda way ??? ???..... WB cover maybe ??? , dunno nah only seen him dat one time last week.
Post by: Football supporter on August 24, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
Post by: Observer on August 24, 2012, 07:25:53 PM
I've been watching Moses since he was a youthman at Palace. In fact he first come to my attention on Championship Manager and his stats were so good I made the point of specifically watching him!! It was a good move for him to go to Wigan to learn the trade rather than warming the bench for a big club. I just hope he gets the chance to get a run in the team.
I like him and his direct style. Chelsea needs a winger to do just that, I could see him being successful given the chance.
Post by: lefty on August 25, 2012, 01:55:14 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 25, 2012, 02:18:31 PM
I've been watching Moses since he was a youthman at Palace. In fact he first come to my attention on Championship Manager and his stats were so good I made the point of specifically watching him!! It was a good move for him to go to Wigan to learn the trade rather than warming the bench for a big club. I just hope he gets the chance to get a run in the team.
I like him and his direct style. Chelsea needs a winger to do just that, I could see him being successful given the chance.
"given the chance" being the operative words....Chelsea could be rel frustrating in their tactical philosophies sometimes....we have had some gifted and legitimate wingers on the team, only to stifle them and then let them go, to rely on the wing backs like Bosingwa to be pushing forward for width.....makes no sense.....with Moses being so young, I really doh see them looking to change that philosophy any time soon...this season, at least. I see him ridin' pine but hopefully I am wrong.
another day another 3 points and they did it while still looking rusty and lackin sharpness in attack.........imagine if dey ketch ah flow.....I envisage some good scores ahead ;D
the main thing, as the commentators talked about, is to take care of the main rivals FIRST...last time we won the league was in part because we went 6-0 against what was only 3 other top competitors.....last season we was only 2-8 against what is now 5 of them (mancity and possibly Spurs being the 2 "new" add-ons?) plus a few disappointments against the likes of QPR, Aston Villa, Swansea, etc, that we CANNOT allow to happen....not with this squad we now have. Men need to sharpen up quick and take care of business.
Post by: Blue on August 25, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
another day another 3 points and they did it while still looking rusty and lackin sharpness in attack.........imagine if dey ketch ah flow.....I envisage some good scores ahead ;D
I dunno what game you were watching but we were terrific today. That first half was some of the best football I've seen at Stamford Bridge in years. Hazard and Mata are already the best attacking combo in the Premiership, no contest, and that is not an exaggeration. Newcastle did not have a clue how to deal with them, it was wave after wave of one-touch passing and mesmerising runs. I know the media are getting carried away with our title chances, but that Hazard-Mata partnership is the real deal. The scary thing is that if any one of Oscar, Marin or Moses were to click with those two, it could really be the most lethal attack the Premiership has ever seen. And that is even with a mediocre Torres upfront (and Torres is still the same Torres from last year, doh mind he score a couple of goals, he is still hesitating to shoot).
Miereles was also an improvement on Lampard, he has a much better rapport with Mata and Torres. And the Luiz-Cahill combo seems stronger than either of those two with Terry. They are faster than Terry, which in my opinion will be more important when we playing all this attacking football this season.
Post by: lefty on August 25, 2012, 05:53:21 PM
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I dunno what game you were watching but we were terrific today. That first half was some of the best football I've seen at Stamford Bridge in years. Hazard and Mata are already the best attacking combo in the Premiership, no contest, and that is not an exaggeration. Newcastle did not have a clue how to deal with them, it was wave after wave of one-touch passing and mesmerising runs. I know the media are getting carried away with our title chances, but that Hazard-Mata partnership is the real deal. The scary thing is that if any one of Oscar, Marin or Moses were to click with those two, it could really be the most lethal attack the Premiership has ever seen. And that is even with a mediocre Torres upfront (and Torres is still the same Torres from last year, doh mind he score a couple of goals, he is still hesitating to shoot).
Miereles was also an improvement on Lampard, he has a much better rapport with Mata and Torres. And the Luiz-Cahill combo seems stronger than either of those two with Terry. They are faster than Terry, which in my opinion will be more important when we playing all this attacking football this season.
missed some that just saw highlights/..... 2nd half caught large chunks of that, the wing play and dead ball stuff wasn't great "from what I saw" nor d productivity of some of d final balls, but that had more to do with finishing or the "relative" lack thereof when I could look...so I guess my POV is kinda skewed.......but wouldn't u agree that they are not quite "THERE YET" all things considered.
Post by: Blue on August 26, 2012, 01:05:29 AM
.but wouldn't u agree that they are not quite "THERE YET" all things considered.
Second half was more about protecting the lead, we stepped off the gas a bit. I agree there are a couple of things to sort out, namely the shooting (we didnt take many shots, Torres hasn't changed) and the defence probably hasn't quite got into full flow yet (although they were very good yesterday).
The best part is that this is simply last season's team plus Hazard...what a difference one player can make.
Post by: lefty on August 26, 2012, 05:13:27 AM
.but wouldn't u agree that they are not quite "THERE YET" all things considered.
Second half was more about protecting the lead, we stepped off the gas a bit. I agree there are a couple of things to sort out, namely the shooting (we didnt take many shots, Torres hasn't changed) and the defence probably hasn't quite got into full flow yet (although they were very good yesterday).
The best part is that this is simply last season's team plus Hazard...what a difference one player can make.
yeah he has been that, we no longer have somebody that can bust through the gate..........so it is a damn good thing we have people that can pick the locks......still think we need an attacking option that can throw their frame about and cause trouble...don't think we should totally abandon the "old ways" especially for those times we might need a battering ram
Post by: injunchile on August 26, 2012, 02:45:38 PM
Post by: lefty on August 26, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
I agree with RYAN- The Matta- Hazzard combo was a joy to watch. We took our feet off the gas in the second half. Moses running the wing will add some more fire power. The possibility and potential of this side is mind boggling.
we keep doing that and it worries me, if I remember correctly the last couple seasons went down to the wire....if yuh could stack yuh GD do it
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 27, 2012, 07:28:20 AM
.but wouldn't u agree that they are not quite "THERE YET" all things considered.
Second half was more about protecting the lead, we stepped off the gas a bit. I agree there are a couple of things to sort out, namely the shooting (we didnt take many shots, Torres hasn't changed) and the defence probably hasn't quite got into full flow yet (although they were very good yesterday).
The best part is that this is simply last season's team plus Hazard...what a difference one player can make.
It's the addition of Hazard and the subtraction of Lampard that has livened up that attacking midfield. Hazard brings a more skillful and creative touch that works well for the team even when they are still in that slow, methodical mode that makes Lampard useless and quite frankly, many a time he is the cause of it. Teams (especially the lesser ones) can no longer drop back and challenge Chelsea to create something out of nothing and try to break them down...Mata and more so, Hazard have the ability and Hazard is extremely full of the confidence to take the ball and do whatever it takes or he's capable of doing to break down defenses and that is opening up opportunities for the forwards with, of course, Torres being the prime beneficiary so far. Outside of Lampard of a few seasons ago, Chelsea has not really been a big shooting team and Torres has never really been no big shooter, so it's a bit unfair to try to criticize him of not changing that. I do agree though, that a few players need to step up and develop that medium and long range threat for when teams try to drop back and circle their wagons.
we keep doing that and it worries me, if I remember correctly the last couple seasons went down to the wire....if yuh could stack yuh GD do it
TOTALLY agree wit yuh.....When you have (paid all this money for) ALLLLLLL this talent, I find when yuh have teams on the ropes, yuh have to finish them off and try your best to break their will. I might hate manu and "hate" fergie, but I totally respect their willingness to attack and keep attacking, whether you're home or on the road. When teams like Wigan, Reading, QPR, Swansea, liverpool and Fulham and their ilk are playing against you like they have nothing to lose, then you have to run them ragged and force them to wager their pride. You paid money for superior talent, you have to unleash them. Goal difference has been a factor in us losing the title a couple times well over the past few season. We are now too big a side to be playin' "safe" and being shy.
Post by: Blue on August 27, 2012, 09:53:52 AM
Outside of Lampard of a few seasons ago, Chelsea has not really been a big shooting team and Torres has never really been no big shooter, so it's a bit unfair to try to criticize him of not changing that.
Chelsea took 821 shots on goal in the 2009-2010 season (our last full season without Torres). In Torres' first full season with us (2011-2012) we took 661.
You might also recall that we were the highest scoring team in any European league in the 2009-2010 season - more than Barca, Real Madrid, Man U, anyone, and more than any team in Premiership history. Clearly we were good at shooting.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 27, 2012, 03:37:39 PM
Outside of Lampard of a few seasons ago, Chelsea has not really been a big shooting team and Torres has never really been no big shooter, so it's a bit unfair to try to criticize him of not changing that.
Chelsea took 821 shots on goal in the 2009-2010 season (our last full season without Torres). In Torres' first full season with us (2011-2012) we took 661.
You might also recall that we were the highest scoring team in any European league in the 2009-2010 season - more than Barca, Real Madrid, Man U, anyone, and more than any team in Premiership history. Clearly we were good at shooting.
did you not read the part where I specified that the "shooting" I am talking about is medium to long range shooting? Do me and yourself a favour and break down all dem stats nuh, and show where all them record-breaking goals was not derived from counter-attacking (like Ramires' equalizer against Barca or Meireles' own against Benfica), free-kicks, penalties or from the penalty area and closer. Isolate dem fuh meh. All during Mourinho's reign, Lampard wasn't shy about hitting the ball from anywhere from 20-25 yards out and he was consistent and effective with it, averaging 20+ goals per season. Now he is averaging less and hardly hitting the ball from beyond the penalty spot and NOBODY ELSE is doing it consistently FROM MEDIUM TO LONG RANGE. Drogba was he only other player that would let fly on a whim. Essien has not taken a good quality shot from distance since he score that last minute equalizer against Arsenal about 2 or 3 seasons ago. Malouda couldn'ta shoot to save he life, John Terry doh take shots, Kalou didn't used to shoot, Mikel is not a good shooter, neither is Ashley Cole, and Mata has hardly been willing to pull the trigger. All dat is Torres' fault, too? Then you isolating one friggin' record-breakin' season and forgetting the others we relinquished to manu where better and more consistent goal-scoring record(s) would have made the difference(s) for us. Don't you find it ironic that I mentioned the Lampard "of a few seasons ago" and you are quoting big stats from 2 seasons ago?
Post by: Blue on August 27, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
Post by: injunchile on August 27, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 28, 2012, 01:15:06 PM
I eh go spend much more time on this, but Chelsea took more shots from outside of the box than any other team in the Premiership last season. The conversion rate is very low (for any team). In my opinion it is not something we need to be doing more of.
Yuh might as well had not, jed, because yuh talkin' ah pack ah ass. Jes' like how allyuh was ridin' in Ramires ass, yuh kinda overdoin' it wit Torres now. We KNOW he has been a disappointment so far but gih de man a break now nuh, he done score 2 arready fuh de still short season. Is not HIS fault (alone) that the team....."didn't take many shots". He is the only one on the team? On the one hand yuh complaining that "...we didn't take many shots.." and somehow making the link to Chelsea's drop in shooting "statistics" to Torres' "not changing"......when I point out that Chelsea has not shot EFFECTIVELY and CONSISTENTLY from medium to long range over the last few seasons and make the connection to Lampard's drop off in both and in scoring, you telling me how Chelsea shooting the most and scoring the most (from two seasons ago) and taking the most shots from outside the box.....but yuh still cyah tell meh how consistently and to what (required positive) effect it is being done, yuh jes reading off of arbitrary numbers. How many corners they may have created, how many goals were scored either directly or indirectly as a result of them taking timely shots on goal instead of pussy-footing around the box sometimes, that is what I lookin' at. If our shooting stats and scoring are so great, WDF yuh complaining about 2 games into the season with a +4 goal difference? Why is it Torres' fault that (according to you) Chelsea taking the most shots but not taking many shots? Which one is it? The team playin' the best yuh have ever seen them play and Torres is right up in there being just as much a part as Hazard and Mata are.....and yuh still misappropriating blame on de man....allyuh rel good oui!
Even the Holding Nigerian shooting from outside the box.
that same Holding Nigerian I can probably count on one hand, the number of shots he has taken since he has joined the club and I can count on one finger, the number of goals he has scored. He can only shoot from outside the box because the only box he does get into with any frequency is his own.....maybe ONE of his shots were ever on target, most of them have gone wide.....to no effect. He is not a good shooter, for whatever reason.
Post by: Blue on August 28, 2012, 02:00:12 PM
All I was saying is that Chelsea take rel shots from outside the box, very few of which are successful (same as every other team - shooting from outside the box is a stupid tactic). However our shots from inside the box have drastically reduced in the Torres era.
I could bring all kinda statistical analysis here, but I go leave yuh wid two more stats and den I done lol
1. Number of touches Torres (our center forward) had in the six yard box for the whole of last season: 4 (for comparison, Van Persie had 26).
2. Torres took a shot every 40 minutes last season. Both Drogba and Sturridge did significantly better. Of all the high profile strikers in the Premier League only Darren Bent did worse.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 29, 2012, 08:51:24 AM
Post by: Bitter on August 31, 2012, 01:42:55 PM
Falcao is killing us.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 31, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
Licks in the Uefa Super Cup...
Falcao is killing us.
is Torres fault!
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2012, 06:44:06 PM
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2012, 06:45:33 PM
How "serious" am I taking it? If you on a forum discussing football as you watchin' it on tv or after going to every game isn't that "serious"? Ryan, you good oui! Hear this, though, you "watching Torres play every game" (live) is no different from anybody else watching him play every game (on TV) and it doesn't necessarily give you a better view of the game (especially if yuh have to be constantly looking down on yuh chart books to record all dem "statistical analyses") You and all the other Chelsea faithful woulda done run Mikel and Ramires AND Torres outta town arready so your presence at the games don't necessarily give you a better eye for them if you only see what you want to see and are short-sighted from a bigger picture. In the world of "statistics" if a man stub he toe into the turf and trip and fall while taking a shot and the ball trickle back to the 'keeper as he bend down under no pressure and pick up de ball laughing at him, that count as a "shot on goal" and a "save" and can serve the purpose of those that believe in "stats". Unless you could provide more information revolving around them stats, jed, they doh mean shit to me. "W L D GF GA PTS" are the most important stats in this game. What "stats" don't tell you are the times when a man have a clear shot at goal from on top the 18, and don't have the ability, confidence or whatever it takes to put the ball on target...but choose to try and play the ball through a sea of defenders instead....force the 'keeper into a (real) save...force a corner or even a rebound and possibly a goal. Nobody talking about using shooting as a tactic because the timing of a good shot can be more important that the number of times you shoot. It's just part of the game and is no less effective than hitting direct free-kicks straight at the goal and Lampard used to have pretty good success at putting the ball in the back of the net from distance....when he was averaging 20+ per season. Your suggestion that I dislike him is ridiculous. I actually love the guy, but I am not too in love with him that I can't see where some of his best production has diminished and how it relates to the team's poor production. I also pointed out others as well...It is EVERYBODY'S responsibility to shoot at the opponent's goal when they get a good look....you just puttin' all the blame on Torres and all the stats in the world couldn't make that true, accurate or sensible.
What kind wall of text blabbering is that. It looking like spam.
Post by: Dumplingdinho on August 31, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Post by: injunchile on August 31, 2012, 11:22:26 PM
Post by: Blue on September 01, 2012, 12:50:08 AM
what happen to chelsea, i thought dey were a big side?
Champions of Europe son :beermug:
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2012, 06:31:15 AM
what happen to chelsea, i thought dey were a big side?
Champions of Europe son :beermug:
You keep holding on to that. Reality will step in soon. But I will forgive Alyuh. Is alyuh first major trophy lol.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2012, 07:43:52 AM
How "serious" am I taking it? If you on a forum discussing football as you watchin' it on tv or after going to every game isn't that "serious"? Ryan, you good oui! Hear this, though, you "watching Torres play every game" (live) is no different from anybody else watching him play every game (on TV) and it doesn't necessarily give you a better view of the game (especially if yuh have to be constantly looking down on yuh chart books to record all dem "statistical analyses") You and all the other Chelsea faithful woulda done run Mikel and Ramires AND Torres outta town arready so your presence at the games don't necessarily give you a better eye for them if you only see what you want to see and are short-sighted from a bigger picture. In the world of "statistics" if a man stub he toe into the turf and trip and fall while taking a shot and the ball trickle back to the 'keeper as he bend down under no pressure and pick up de ball laughing at him, that count as a "shot on goal" and a "save" and can serve the purpose of those that believe in "stats". Unless you could provide more information revolving around them stats, jed, they doh mean shit to me. "W L D GF GA PTS" are the most important stats in this game. What "stats" don't tell you are the times when a man have a clear shot at goal from on top the 18, and don't have the ability, confidence or whatever it takes to put the ball on target...but choose to try and play the ball through a sea of defenders instead....force the 'keeper into a (real) save...force a corner or even a rebound and possibly a goal. Nobody talking about using shooting as a tactic because the timing of a good shot can be more important that the number of times you shoot. It's just part of the game and is no less effective than hitting direct free-kicks straight at the goal and Lampard used to have pretty good success at putting the ball in the back of the net from distance....when he was averaging 20+ per season. Your suggestion that I dislike him is ridiculous. I actually love the guy, but I am not too in love with him that I can't see where some of his best production has diminished and how it relates to the team's poor production. I also pointed out others as well...It is EVERYBODY'S responsibility to shoot at the opponent's goal when they get a good look....you just puttin' all the blame on Torres and all the stats in the world couldn't make that true, accurate or sensible.
What kind wall of text blabbering is that. It looking like spam.
mind yuh bizniz and go and pick up some bottle so allyuh could make up fuh all de money allyuh loss on Berbatov......and while yuh at it, go and do some research eh, talkin' 'bout we "first major trophy".....steuwps
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2012, 07:52:47 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on September 01, 2012, 08:45:31 AM
what happen to chelsea, i thought dey were a big side?
Champions of Europe son :beermug:
You keep holding on to that. Reality will step in soon. But I will forgive Alyuh. Is alyuh first major trophy lol.
Yuh have tuh forgive dem, since dey is ah bunch ah neva see come sees! And dey still in shock dey win dat trophy wit dat shit side, so dey have tuh keep repeating it!
Post by: Peong on September 01, 2012, 09:38:02 AM
Post by: palos on September 01, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
Radamel forkin Falcao. That was a beautiful performance. Man really know how to make the striker's runs, he look a lot like Hernan Crespo in that respect. I look forward to him goin to an elite club.
Ketch yuhself!
Ateletico is more of an "elite" club than Chelsea....as they proved over and over and over and over yesterday :)
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Radamel forkin Falcao. That was a beautiful performance. Man really know how to make the striker's runs, he look a lot like Hernan Crespo in that respect. I look forward to him goin to an elite club.
Ketch yuhself!
Ateletico is more of an "elite" club than Chelsea....as they proved over and over and over and over yesterday :)
Haul yuh ass!! In fact, haul ALL ah allyuh haters ass!! At least my side was playin' fuh sumting yesterday! (and yuh spell "Atletico" wrong.) :devil:
Post by: Cocorite on September 01, 2012, 01:01:20 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Doh worry. Chelsea go show allyuh
Doh study fork in dem!
Post by: Peong on September 01, 2012, 01:17:03 PM
Radamel forkin Falcao. That was a beautiful performance. Man really know how to make the striker's runs, he look a lot like Hernan Crespo in that respect. I look forward to him goin to an elite club.
Ketch yuhself!
Ateletico is more of an "elite" club than Chelsea....as they proved over and over and over and over yesterday :)
Hah I like Atletico's style, but Falcao need to be in the CL. Hopefully he doesn't go to an English club.
Post by: mukumsplau on September 16, 2012, 06:57:35 PM
Soon...
Post by: D.H.W on September 16, 2012, 09:13:38 PM
Post by: lefty on September 17, 2012, 04:48:08 AM
Post by: elan on October 06, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
I however like Norwich and their manager.
Post by: Cocorite on October 06, 2012, 04:14:15 PM
Post by: Bakes on October 07, 2012, 07:25:16 AM
Apparently, in acquitting Terry of criminal charges the Chief Magistrate said that he found his defense (that he was only repeating what Ferdinand had accused him of saying, by way of denial "I didn't call you a f**king black c**t") improbable. Also that Cole's testimony in support was essentially a lie, since he could not have heard Ferdinand say those words. The Guardian editorial in the link above calling for discipline against both players, Terry for the insult and lie, and Cole for the lie. Chelsea say they will discipline Cole.
I know some will be quick to raise Suarez name, but Suarez never lie and deny what he say... just that he meant no offense. Doesn't make what he said acceptable, but at least he didn't compound it with a lie and get others to lie on his behalf. It really puts Cole's behavior in a real shameful light and I surprise the FA didn't discipline him as well.
Post by: D.H.W on October 07, 2012, 07:31:10 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 07, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
I must admit that I haven't really been paying too much attention to the Terry/Anton Ferdinand flap... but this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/06/editorial-john-terry-ashley-cole-chelsea-england) is a pretty damning indictment of Terry's behavior (old news, I know).
Apparently, in acquitting Terry of criminal charges the Chief Magistrate said that he found his defense (that he was only repeating what Ferdinand had accused him of saying, by way of denial "I didn't call you a f**king black c**t") improbable. Also that Cole's testimony in support was essentially a lie, since he could not have heard Ferdinand say those words. The Guardian editorial in the link above calling for discipline against both players, Terry for the insult and lie, and Cole for the lie. Chelsea say they will discipline Cole.
I know some will be quick to raise Suarez name, but Suarez never lie and deny what he say... just that he meant no offense. Doesn't make what he said acceptable, but at least he didn't compound it with a lie and get others to lie on his behalf. It really puts Cole's behavior in a real shameful light and I surprise the FA didn't discipline him as well.
Terry is a c**t just like suarez is a c**t and CONTINUES to be a c**t. You dumb enough to believe that suarez "meant no offense"? If so, well ah have some liverpool stock to sell yuh. At least Chelsea is looking to discipline Ashley Cole instead of further compounding the incident by supporting either player and having the coach make jackass comments and printing up jackass t-shirts like liverpool did. The FA themselves need to be criticized for letting this incident drag on like it did and, in finding Terry guilty, then only handing him a 4-match ban. Otherwise, jes hush yuh c**t and worry 'bout yuh shit side nuh.
Post by: doublet750 on October 08, 2012, 08:02:22 AM
On another note I have to say Robbie di Matteo has gone about his job well. You can see he is managing to do what avb wanted to do more efficiently because he holds a relationship with his players . Frank Lampard is not a guaranteed starter at 34 but more someone who is used when we can utilize his best and he understands that. Youngsters like Bertrand and oriol romeu are slowly being blooded in....I even believe in preseason our young Belgians lukaku and de bruyne got enough playing time to make an impression for the future (Robbie told them its best to get games under ur belt on loan and they took it on the chin and both look forward to next year)
It's not the finished article yet but when you figure that with the bright starts that Oscar hazard and mata are having and we still have the exciting Marin and Moses and sturridge to step in as wingers/forwards (which we craved for a while since duff n robben) Chelsea has all te tools to mix it up and play intricately through the middle or I utilize the wings . And while El Niño isn't back to his best 4 prem goals so far I believe has him top of te scoring charts in the early days or thereabouts ---long season to come so let's just hope he sustains a decent rate at this pace and he could very well end up with 20
Post by: Bakes on October 08, 2012, 08:40:56 AM
Terry is a c**t just like suarez is a c**t and CONTINUES to be a c**t. You dumb enough to believe that suarez "meant no offense"? If so, well ah have some liverpool stock to sell yuh. At least Chelsea is looking to discipline Ashley Cole instead of further compounding the incident by supporting either player and having the coach make jackass comments and printing up jackass t-shirts like liverpool did. The FA themselves need to be criticized for letting this incident drag on like it did and, in finding Terry guilty, then only handing him a 4-match ban. Otherwise, jes hush yuh c**t and worry 'bout yuh shit side nuh.
You need to work out whatever issues you have going in fella. And learn to read for understanding while you at it.
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Correct you are doublet... the Cole discipline talk had to do with his Twitter criticism of the FA.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 08, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Bakes and mango careful with the wording ---Chelsea is only disciplining Ashley cole over his twitter remarks about the FA and violation to club policy because as a result of the since subsequent fa charge he could find hisself a ban (worst case scenario ) or even a fine and this would set Chelsea back in the fair play standings which although meaningless ultimately is not something any reputable club would like....by you guys wording and context cole is being dealt with by his club for "his evidence in the case" -----I believe JT is not a racist but he did make a racist remark in anger out of the heat of the moment in a tough DERBY game with his side already up against it (2 red cards and a goal down and some piccong could bring out anybody bad side) ----yes he should have been reprimanded albeit sooner and yes he should have just admitted that it was a lapse in thinking of which everyone is entitled to but would have been expected of him especially with his past lol .
Honestly speaking, I don't want to believe that Terry is a racist, but he may very well be as well as you may very well be correct, too. None of us know the man personally, but even though I is a Chelsea supporter, I is a black man first and I am as equally intolerant of what Terry may have said as I am of what suarez sorry ass did, as I would be if any man try to call me a nigger to my face. I would end up in jail for real! I have had many "heat of the moment" incidents in my lifetime, on and off the football field and never once thought of bringin' a next man race into the fray....maybe his nationality (jamaican, Bajan) but I just don't see that a man that don't have any racist leanings in his heart will go so far out of his character to be that way when getting into a minor altercation that is standard for his profession. Needless to say, I am a little less forgiving that to allow him that "entitlement" under the circumstances and especially because of his role at the time for club and country. As far as Ashley Cole is concerned, I really didn't remember that his crime was his comments on twitter. I simply responded to dat nex' asshole comments based on his own gospel testimony that he always deems to be truer and more accurate anybody else's.
Terry is a c**t just like suarez is a c**t and CONTINUES to be a c**t. You dumb enough to believe that suarez "meant no offense"? If so, well ah have some liverpool stock to sell yuh. At least Chelsea is looking to discipline Ashley Cole instead of further compounding the incident by supporting either player and having the coach make jackass comments and printing up jackass t-shirts like liverpool did. The FA themselves need to be criticized for letting this incident drag on like it did and, in finding Terry guilty, then only handing him a 4-match ban. Otherwise, jes hush yuh c**t and worry 'bout yuh shit side nuh.
You need to work out whatever issues you have going in fella. And learn to read for understanding while you at it.
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Correct you are doublet... the Cole discipline talk had to do with his Twitter criticism of the FA.
your incessant drone about people's so-called inability to "...read for understanding..." has long since been old, over-used and boring, chica. So is your inability to get your facts right the first time. for a (alleged) man that talks as much as you do and how much smarter than everybody else you purport yourself to be, it is comical to see how wrong you are so many times. You are nothing new, though. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people out there that feel they are good at giving advice while very poor at following it themselves. Maybe it is you that should "read for understanding" and stfu until yuh get shit correct.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 08, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
On another note I have to say Robbie di Matteo has gone about his job well. You can see he is managing to do what avb wanted to do more efficiently because he holds a relationship with his players . Frank Lampard is not a guaranteed starter at 34 but more someone who is used when we can utilize his best and he understands that. Youngsters like Bertrand and oriol romeu are slowly being blooded in....I even believe in preseason our young Belgians lukaku and de bruyne got enough playing time to make an impression for the future (Robbie told them its best to get games under ur belt on loan and they took it on the chin and both look forward to next year)
It's not the finished article yet but when you figure that with the bright starts that Oscar hazard and mata are having and we still have the exciting Marin and Moses and sturridge to step in as wingers/forwards (which we craved for a while since duff n robben) Chelsea has all te tools to mix it up and play intricately through the middle or I utilize the wings . And while El Niño isn't back to his best 4 prem goals so far I believe has him top of te scoring charts in the early days or thereabouts ---long season to come so let's just hope he sustains a decent rate at this pace and he could very well end up with 20
You are absolutely correct. AVB really needed (or might even STILL need to) work on his man-management skills as his handling of Anelka's and Alex' situations, to me, was downright foul. Lukaku was starting to cry and moan too much about playing time for my liking. RDM, obviously doused that fire before Lukaku got on the wrong side of the Chelsea fans. I look forward to what the finished product may turn out to be in a couple years from now.
Post by: dinho on October 08, 2012, 12:00:50 PM
On another note I have to say Robbie di Matteo has gone about his job well. You can see he is managing to do what avb wanted to do more efficiently because he holds a relationship with his players . Frank Lampard is not a guaranteed starter at 34 but more someone who is used when we can utilize his best and he understands that. Youngsters like Bertrand and oriol romeu are slowly being blooded in....I even believe in preseason our young Belgians lukaku and de bruyne got enough playing time to make an impression for the future (Robbie told them its best to get games under ur belt on loan and they took it on the chin and both look forward to next year)
It's not the finished article yet but when you figure that with the bright starts that Oscar hazard and mata are having and we still have the exciting Marin and Moses and sturridge to step in as wingers/forwards (which we craved for a while since duff n robben) Chelsea has all te tools to mix it up and play intricately through the middle or I utilize the wings . And while El Niño isn't back to his best 4 prem goals so far I believe has him top of te scoring charts in the early days or thereabouts ---long season to come so let's just hope he sustains a decent rate at this pace and he could very well end up with 20
You are absolutely correct. AVB really needed (or might even STILL need to) work on his man-management skills as his handling of Anelka's and Alex' situations, to me, was downright foul. Lukaku was starting to cry and moan too much about playing time for my liking. RDM, obviously doused that fire before Lukaku got on the wrong side of the Chelsea fans. I look forward to what the finished product may turn out to be in a couple years from now.
While its been a great start to the season, and I'm impressed with the way Di Matteo is going about his job (man management, squad rotation, handling of the press etc), it is way too early to make any kinda proclamations.
Firstly, lets understand the fixture list has been kind to Chelsea to start the season. The upcoming stretch of games will provide a much better gauge as to Chelsea's mettle and title credentials.
The easy games have masked some glaring squad deficiencies imo. Firstly, I was totally in disagreement with letting Essien go to Real Madrid. Ideally he should be rotating and competing directly with Mikel for the defensive midfield spot. If Mikel is injured, loses form or makes mistakes (2nd goal given up to Juventus), there is no viable alternative to keep him on his toes. Only Romeu, but he is a different breed of DM and does not provide the physical presence in the middle.
Also, was totally in disagreement with letting Lukaku out on loan to West Brom. For a top 4 side, need at least 3-4 strikers capable of coming in and performing throughout the season. Lukaku also gives a physical outlet and an option to change the style of play in different types of games when Chelsea needs to knuckle down. Right now with Sturridge injured, Torres is the only striker option and already there is talk about fatigue and we only just got to October. We don't even have a midfielder that can fill in for striker if need be.
I happy so far, but wary and waiting to see how we handle the tough games.
Post by: lefty on October 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Lukaku also gives a physical outlet and an option to change the style of play in different types of games when Chelsea needs to knuckle down.
this right concerns me most Torres ent showing up in d box nearly as much as he should already.....what will happen if we can't "tikki takka" we way through a defense ..........even with the new style chelsea tryin to adopt we need a battering ram for those tough times when yuh cyah dance yuh way through.
Firstly, I was totally in disagreement with letting Essien go to Real Madrid. Ideally he should be rotating and competing directly with Mikel for the defensive midfield spot. If Mikel is injured, loses form or makes mistakes (2nd goal given up to Juventus), there is no viable alternative to keep him on his toes. Only Romeu, but he is a different breed of DM and does not provide the physical presence in the middle.
have to agree with this as well.
Post by: Bakes on October 08, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
your incessant drone about people's so-called inability to "...read for understanding..." has long since been old, over-used and boring, chica. So is your inability to get your facts right the first time. for a (alleged) man that talks as much as you do and how much smarter than everybody else you purport yourself to be, it is comical to see how wrong you are so many times. You are nothing new, though. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people out there that feel they are good at giving advice while very poor at following it themselves. Maybe it is you that should "read for understanding" and stfu until yuh get shit correct.
Physician you might want to heal yourself with that "stfu until yuh get shit correct" talk. For one thing I began by saying I haven't been following the case closely. For a another another pass anything off as "Gospel" truth. If you wish to respond in a jackass Amana to something which you don't know the facts on who's fault is that? Finally as far as reading for understanding, I never gave my personal opinion as to what Suarez meant or was thinking when he said what he said to Evra. Might help you to take your Midol and calm down a bit before rushing to post.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 08, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
your incessant drone about people's so-called inability to "...read for understanding..." has long since been old, over-used and boring, chica. So is your inability to get your facts right the first time. for a (alleged) man that talks as much as you do and how much smarter than everybody else you purport yourself to be, it is comical to see how wrong you are so many times. You are nothing new, though. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people out there that feel they are good at giving advice while very poor at following it themselves. Maybe it is you that should "read for understanding" and stfu until yuh get shit correct.
Physician you might want to heal yourself with that "stfu until yuh get shit correct" talk. For one thing I began by saying I haven't been following the case closely. For a another another pass anything off as "Gospel" truth. If you wish to respond in a jackass Amana to something which you don't know the facts on who's fault is that? Finally as far as reading for understanding, I never gave my personal opinion as to what Suarez meant or was thinking when he said what he said to Evra. Might help you to take your Midol and calm down a bit before rushing to post.
I couldn't care less that I didn't "know" the facts surrounding Ashley Cole's involvement in the matter, Ashley Cole never has been the issue for me in this incident. You are the jackass that decided to post and make him an issue without knowing the facts yourself.....true to your idiotic form. I simply took your jackass post to show your dumb ass that even if it went how you say it went, it doesn't compare to how liverpool handled the suarez case. You tried to subtly downplay suarez' attempt at his own defense as being better than John Terry's by saying "... Suarez never lie and deny what he say... just that he meant no offense..." as if there really was/is a difference between the two idiots. The entire liverpool organization came out in shameful defense of suarez, lookin' like a bunch of fools.....and you now lookin' like a bigger one comin' here talkin' more crap as suarez continues to be a jackass on the field.
Yuh finally (seem to) have gotten over yuh Torres tabanca and now yuh want to bring up (as you rightly admitted) old, irrelevant shit. Yuh eh see is YOU is de one need to go in yuh muddah c**t room and take some ah she midol? Yuh seem to be wearin' all she other clothing, so doh stop dey, take she medicine, too.
Post by: lefty on October 08, 2012, 04:12:51 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 08, 2012, 04:29:29 PM
get ah room :P
Ha ha! Never dat!
Lukaku also gives a physical outlet and an option to change the style of play in different types of games when Chelsea needs to knuckle down.
this right concerns me most Torres ent showing up in d box nearly as much as he should already.....what will happen if we can't "tikki takka" we way through a defense ..........even with the new style chelsea tryin to adopt we need a battering ram for those tough times when yuh cyah dance yuh way through.
Maybe the coach feels Moses will be that player for now....he isn't your basic battering ram type of player but he isn't afraid to take on defenders more directly than the "tikki-takka" style we seem to be trying to adopt. Lukaku IS a very strong, phsical player so let's see how he does while he is out on loan....besides, Sturridge comin' back next week.Firstly, I was totally in disagreement with letting Essien go to Real Madrid. Ideally he should be rotating and competing directly with Mikel for the defensive midfield spot. If Mikel is injured, loses form or makes mistakes (2nd goal given up to Juventus), there is no viable alternative to keep him on his toes. Only Romeu, but he is a different breed of DM and does not provide the physical presence in the middle.
have to agree with this as well.
I not too worried about Essien leaving....I think he has been too injury-prone (not his fault) to expect any consistency out of him....I wonder if the harsh physicality of the English league might just be too much for him.
Post by: Bitter on October 28, 2012, 11:22:25 AM
Stupid red card.
Post by: Bitter on October 28, 2012, 11:25:36 AM
Ref tiefin. Time to switch to the NFL, or F1
Post by: Bakes on October 28, 2012, 11:26:04 AM
Blame David Moyes.
Post by: sammy on October 28, 2012, 11:27:27 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on October 28, 2012, 11:27:32 AM
WTF???!!!!
Ref tiefin. Time to switch to the NFL, of F1
The FA (Ferguson Association) is working well I see.
Trust me Chelsea fans. As a Liverpool fan, I feel your pain.
Post by: Cantona007 on October 28, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on October 28, 2012, 11:31:55 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on October 28, 2012, 11:32:36 AM
3-2 Utd.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:36:51 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 11:50:27 AM
Only the last red look bad on replay, first red was legit. Last Goal was offside but Czech block the linesman view. What about all the bad calls we had against Chelsea? Suddenly is a sin now?
You really want to restart that discussion again, horse?! After it has been well established and is very well known that manu gets MORE than their fair share of bad calls go in their favor against just about every team in the league.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:53:37 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on October 28, 2012, 11:55:00 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 11:58:19 AM
Fork Chelski!
Fork all ah allyuh!
Post by: giggsy11 on October 28, 2012, 11:59:17 AM
Only the last red look bad on replay, first red was legit. Last Goal was offside but Czech block the linesman view. What about all the bad calls we had against Chelsea? Suddenly is a sin now?
Dread, doh study dem and dey convinient memory! Fork Chelski!
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
So basically alyuh Chelsea men saying the ref and linesman get paid off. But to be fair to the linesman, it had no way he could of seen if Hernandez was offside.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
I will admit the ref make a brave call. He have balls of steal.
So basically alyuh Chelsea men saying the ref and linesman get paid off. But to be fair to the linesman, it had no way he could of seen if Hernandez was offside.
How could the linesman NOT have seen hernandez was offside, he was in line with (if not behind) the damned GK. Any more offside and he woulda be a ball boy.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 12:26:32 PM
I will admit the ref make a brave call. He have balls of steal.
So basically alyuh Chelsea men saying the ref and linesman get paid off. But to be fair to the linesman, it had no way he could of seen if Hernandez was offside.
How could the linesman NOT have seen hernandez was offside, he was in line with (if not behind) the damned GK. Any more offside and he woulda be a ball boy.
Find a screen cap or video and you would see. Straight on he could not have seen if Hernandez was inline, cause yuh goalie was infront of hernandez when he made the run back
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 12:33:32 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
I will admit the ref make a brave call. He have balls of steal.
So basically alyuh Chelsea men saying the ref and linesman get paid off. But to be fair to the linesman, it had no way he could of seen if Hernandez was offside.
How could the linesman NOT have seen hernandez was offside, he was in line with (if not behind) the damned GK. Any more offside and he woulda be a ball boy.
Find a screen cap or video and you would see. Straight on he could not have seen if Hernandez was inline, cause yuh goalie was infront of hernandez when he made the run back
DieHard, if a man is offside because there are no defenders between him and the GK, then what is he if he is the last man back to be in line with the GK? He could only be offside. Just because the GK block the official view (may have) doh mean he cyah figure it out.
Post by: Blue on October 28, 2012, 12:41:03 PM
Very encouraging performance by us today, after going down 2-0. We obviously didn't deserve to lose but at least we've only fallen into...first place. The atmosphere on Wednesday will be immense.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 12:44:04 PM
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson:
"The decision the referee has to make is whether
the striker has chosen to go down. He was
through on goal - I don't know why he has gone
down. I think it's his own fault.
"It's been 10 years since we have won down
here. We had a good record until Jose
[Mourinho] came along and spoiled the party.
"We've never got breaks down here and had
some terrible decisions against us in the last few
years. But today we have got a little break for
the goal - Chicharito may have been offside."
Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted that Jonny Evans
probably did catch a bit of Fernando Torres as
the Chelsea striker attempted to skip by him.
But the Manchester United manager says that
Torres only has himself to blame for his red
card.
Post by: Blue on October 28, 2012, 05:14:57 PM
Mark Clattenburg accused of racial slur during Chelsea v Manchester United
Chelsea have made a formal complaint to the football authorities about the referee Mark Clattenburg, whose handling of their 3-2 home defeat to Manchester United caused such controversy, alleging that he directed "inappropriate language" towards two of their players, with club officials briefing that one part of the allegation concerns language of a racist nature.
The west London club released a statement at eight o'clock, which brought a fresh twist to a tumultuous day. They did not reveal the identity of the players, although one of them is understood to have been the Nigeria international Mikel John Obi, a player that Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, felt had been lucky to avoid a red card from Clattenburg, in a game in which two Chelsea players, Branislav Ivanovic and Fernando Torres, did receive them.
Roberto Di Matteo, the Chelsea manager, was furious at Clattenburg's decisions, in particular the one to give Torres a second yellow card for diving while the assistant referee allowed Javier Hernández's winning goal to stand, despite him having come back from an offside position. Di Matteo went to see Clattenburg after the match, flanked by some of his backroom staff, and he was aware at the time of the grievances of his players. Mikel is understood to have visited Clattenburg in his room.
"We have a lodged a complaint to the Premier League match delegate with regards to inappropriate language used by the referee and directed at two of our players in two separate incidents during today's match," said a Chelsea spokesman. "The match delegate will pass the complaint to the Football Association. We will make no further comment at this time."
Clattenburg was not reachable for comment after Chelsea's allegations but a statement from Professional Game Match Officials said it "is aware of the allegations and they are being treated with the utmost seriousness. Mark will co-operate fully and welcomes the opportunity for the facts to be established. No further comment will be made until matter has been properly investigated."
It is understood that the other Chelsea player who felt he was the victim of offensive language from Clattenburg was white and, therefore, it was assumed that there was no racial connotation to this flashpoint. But there was in the other one with Mikel and Chelsea are fully aware of the severity of the allegation, particularly in the wake of the John Terry-Anton Ferdinand racist slur saga.
Terry did not play here, as he served the second part of his four-match domestic ban from the FA for the racist abuse of Ferdinand, the QPR defender, but Rio Ferdinand did play for United. He was the subject of cat-calls, his every touch booed and, after Hernández's winner, he struck a defiant celebratory pose that appeared to enrage the crowd, leading to missiles being thrown.
This was after Chelsea had chosen to support the Kick It Out anti-racism campaign and Terry mentioned his club's "pride" at backing the campaign in his programme notes. Terry wore an anti-racism badge for the day. All of the Chelsea players wore Kick It Out T-shirts in the warm-up; the United winger, Ashley Young, was the only player who did not. It was unclear whether he was making a statement. There were ironic cheers from the United supporters when the on-pitch announcer read out the anti-discrimination message and, over 90 frenetic minutes, there was also rancour between the benches, Ferguson clashing with Di Matteo and members of the Chelsea staff after Torres's red card and at full-time.
Rio Ferdinand shook hands beforehand with Ashley Cole, who had given evidence in support of Terry at the Chelsea captain's magistrates court trial for abusing Anton. It felt as though a line had attempted to be drawn under one of the modern game's most destructive episodes, only for another controversy to erupt.
Clattenburg was miked up throughout the game and he could be heard by his assistants and the fourth official. Their conversations would not have been recorded but they could, in theory, be in a position to assist any inquiry.
Di Matteo was furious at his post-match press conference, although he focused only on Clattenburg's decisions in relation to the match. "Yes, I have been in to see him," Di Matteo said. "Surely, when he's going to watch the images he's going to realise that he made big mistakes.
"We are massively disappointed that these key decisions were wrong. It always seems to be in favour of the opposition. That's a massive disadvantage for us. I thought at 2-2, we looked like the team that were probably going to win the game. You don't want the referees to be a big influence in the game, you let the two teams play each other and play a good game, that's what everybody loves to watch."
Post by: Blue on October 28, 2012, 05:49:24 PM
Post by: elan on October 28, 2012, 06:41:19 PM
No way Torres dive, you have to be crazy to suggest as much. Chicarito offside was easy, he came into the play from behind. The linesman stay even with one out of two things, the last defender or the ball. So if he was with the ball then he can see where Chicharito was. If he stayed with the last man, then he MUST see Chicharito rejoining the game from an offside position.
So what's the deal? :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 06:43:12 PM
I will admit the ref make a brave call. He have balls of steal.
So basically alyuh Chelsea men saying the ref and linesman get paid off. But to be fair to the linesman, it had no way he could of seen if Hernandez was offside.
How could the linesman NOT have seen hernandez was offside, he was in line with (if not behind) the damned GK. Any more offside and he woulda be a ball boy.
All this happen in less than a second, unless the ref have xray vision and slow motion replay he aint seeing that.
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Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 06:44:59 PM
This is the biggest load of :bs: ever and shows how low Man United fans will go. Man United supporters can't even admit that the ref was :bs:
No way Torres dive, you have to be crazy to suggest as much. Chicarito offside was easy, he came into the play from behind. The linesman stay even with one out of two things, the last defender or the ball. So if he was with the ball then he can see where Chicharito was. If he stayed with the last man, then he MUST see Chicharito rejoining the game from an offside position.
So what's the deal? :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Cool yuhself nah, one loss at home in ten years to UTD and you vex? We just suddenly buy out the ref for this game?
Post by: elan on October 28, 2012, 06:45:08 PM
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 06:45:41 PM
....or and by the way Man United was getting their arse handed to them after those 2 early goals. Balled up in a fetal position and all.
Will not deny that :(
Post by: elan on October 28, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
This is the biggest load of :bs: ever and shows how low Man United fans will go. Man United supporters can't even admit that the ref was :bs:
No way Torres dive, you have to be crazy to suggest as much. Chicarito offside was easy, he came into the play from behind. The linesman stay even with one out of two things, the last defender or the ball. So if he was with the ball then he can see where Chicharito was. If he stayed with the last man, then he MUST see Chicharito rejoining the game from an offside position.
So what's the deal? :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Cool yuhself nah, one loss at home in ten years to UTD and you vex? We just suddenly buy out the ref for this game?
Nah, nah, I doh care about the loss, as much as how it went down. If it was reversed I would have defenitely say we boss run something. My take is that the FA, pay Terry back for Ferdinand. Look back and is the same thing that happened when Terry and Bridge had they thing and Bridge lined up against Terry. Chelsea went down in similar fashion.
Post by: Bakes on October 28, 2012, 07:58:51 PM
Nah, nah, I doh care about the loss, as much as how it went down. If it was reversed I would have defenitely say we boss run something. My take is that the FA, pay Terry back for Ferdinand. Look back and is the same thing that happened when Terry and Bridge had they thing and Bridge lined up against Terry. Chelsea went down in similar fashion.
Yeah, because the FA gives a fack about ah Anton Ferdinand.
Post by: Blue on October 29, 2012, 01:31:04 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 29, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
I will admit the ref make a brave call. He have balls of steal.
So basically alyuh Chelsea men saying the ref and linesman get paid off. But to be fair to the linesman, it had no way he could of seen if Hernandez was offside.
How could the linesman NOT have seen hernandez was offside, he was in line with (if not behind) the damned GK. Any more offside and he woulda be a ball boy.
All this happen in less than a second, unless the ref have xray vision and slow motion replay he aint seeing that.
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Jed, I talkin' 'bout the linesman and you talkin' 'bout the ref....No matter what you tell me, the fact is, hernandez was always in an offside position once he had gotten himself past the goal line...the linesman who should have been in line with the last defender, should see that and be processing in his mind that Hernandez was ALWAYS offside until he got himself on the opposite side of the last defender and from your first pic, he failed to do that. The flag should have gone up immediately. Everything may happen one spit second at a time, but as the play unravels, you are processing things as you see them, too.
Post by: kev on October 29, 2012, 10:31:17 AM
On the Offside it happened so fast and as I have said before its easy with lines on the pitch and stopping the play, however when the 1st shot went in there was a Chelsea player in the goal with the Manu one, the shot then came in very fast the linesman would of had to look where the ball rebounded to, waited for the shot then changed he line of vision, by the time he reacted to that Manu and Chelsea players were out of the goal and he was back onside, the only way he could of give offside if he was watching both positions at the same time, not possible. The offside is nothing to do with the ref, but it was the wrong decision but nothing like the blatant ones we see week in week out. Only way to get it right all the time is technology.
Very slippery slope with comments against ref, given what they likely put up with from the players every game.
Post by: D.H.W on October 29, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
From the refs perspective Torres went down after a few steps when looked like defender was going to clear so I can understand why he thought he had dived in real time.
On the Offside it happened so fast and as I have said before its easy with lines on the pitch and stopping the play, however when the 1st shot went in there was a Chelsea player in the goal with the Manu one, the shot then came in very fast the linesman would of had to look where the ball rebounded to, waited for the shot then changed he line of vision, by the time he reacted to that Manu and Chelsea players were out of the goal and he was back onside, the only way he could of give offside if he was watching both positions at the same time, not possible. The offside is nothing to do with the ref, but it was the wrong decision but nothing like the blatant ones we see week in week out. Only way to get it right all the time is technology.
Very slippery slope with comments against ref, given what they likely put up with from the players every game.
You talking too much sense for the haters to comprehend.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 29, 2012, 12:50:15 PM
Post by: Blue on October 29, 2012, 12:57:11 PM
From the refs perspective Torres went down after a few steps when looked like defender was going to clear so I can understand why he thought he had dived in real time.
On the Offside it happened so fast and as I have said before its easy with lines on the pitch and stopping the play, however when the 1st shot went in there was a Chelsea player in the goal with the Manu one, the shot then came in very fast the linesman would of had to look where the ball rebounded to, waited for the shot then changed he line of vision, by the time he reacted to that Manu and Chelsea players were out of the goal and he was back onside, the only way he could of give offside if he was watching both positions at the same time, not possible. The offside is nothing to do with the ref, but it was the wrong decision but nothing like the blatant ones we see week in week out. Only way to get it right all the time is technology.
Very slippery slope with comments against ref, given what they likely put up with from the players every game.
You talking too much sense for the haters to comprehend.
To be fair to Clattenburg, being fouled by Johnny Evans has always been a bookable offence at Stamford Bridge....Drogba got a kung fu kick to the chest a couple of years ago and collected a yellow card for his troubles....so Torres definitely had to go :beermug:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Cs88nvpF_gw
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
From the refs perspective Torres went down after a few steps when looked like defender was going to clear so I can understand why he thought he had dived in real time.
On the Offside it happened so fast and as I have said before its easy with lines on the pitch and stopping the play, however when the 1st shot went in there was a Chelsea player in the goal with the Manu one, the shot then came in very fast the linesman would of had to look where the ball rebounded to, waited for the shot then changed he line of vision, by the time he reacted to that Manu and Chelsea players were out of the goal and he was back onside, the only way he could of give offside if he was watching both positions at the same time, not possible. The offside is nothing to do with the ref, but it was the wrong decision but nothing like the blatant ones we see week in week out. Only way to get it right all the time is technology.
Very slippery slope with comments against ref, given what they likely put up with from the players every game.
Wrong, the players off the pitch would not matter. If Chicarito had stayed in the goal and the goal scored then it stands. You cannot use a player out of bounds to make an offside decision call. The lines should have been in line with the defense as soon as the ball cleared.
This call was a very simple call, nothing complicated about it.
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
Nah, nah, I doh care about the loss, as much as how it went down. If it was reversed I would have defenitely say we boss run something. My take is that the FA, pay Terry back for Ferdinand. Look back and is the same thing that happened when Terry and Bridge had they thing and Bridge lined up against Terry. Chelsea went down in similar fashion.
Yeah, because the FA gives a fack about ah Anton Ferdinand.
Yeah, because Anton Ferdinand is the only person involved.
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 01:13:51 PM
Oh the irony-Chelski complaining about that racist language was used toward their players. Ah wonder if Terry and Cole will be sharing their expertise on the matter?
Cause at Man United 2 wrongs makes a game winner.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 29, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
Oh the irony-Chelski complaining about that racist language was used toward their players. Ah wonder if Terry and Cole will be sharing their expertise on the matter?
Cause at Man United 2 wrongs makes a game winner.
??? What does that have to do with Terry racially abusing a player and Cole lying about it?
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
Oh the irony-Chelski complaining about that racist language was used toward their players. Ah wonder if Terry and Cole will be sharing their expertise on the matter?
Cause at Man United 2 wrongs makes a game winner.
??? What does that have to do with Terry racially abusing a player and Cole lying about it?
What's ironic about Chelsea complaining about racists language being directed to their players ???
Post by: kev on October 29, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
From the refs perspective Torres went down after a few steps when looked like defender was going to clear so I can understand why he thought he had dived in real time.
On the Offside it happened so fast and as I have said before its easy with lines on the pitch and stopping the play, however when the 1st shot went in there was a Chelsea player in the goal with the Manu one, the shot then came in very fast the linesman would of had to look where the ball rebounded to, waited for the shot then changed he line of vision, by the time he reacted to that Manu and Chelsea players were out of the goal and he was back onside, the only way he could of give offside if he was watching both positions at the same time, not possible. The offside is nothing to do with the ref, but it was the wrong decision but nothing like the blatant ones we see week in week out. Only way to get it right all the time is technology.
Very slippery slope with comments against ref, given what they likely put up with from the players every game.
Wrong, the players off the pitch would not matter. If Chicarito had stayed in the goal and the goal scored then it stands. You cannot use a player out of bounds to make an offside decision call. The lines should have been in line with the defense as soon as the ball cleared.
This call was a very simple call, nothing complicated about it.
I know the rules.
It wasn't a simple call, it all happened so fast and by the time the ball got back to him the linesman couldn't see him past Czech or defender, it was the wrong call but it was understandable how he made it in real time.
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 03:34:19 PM
From the refs perspective Torres went down after a few steps when looked like defender was going to clear so I can understand why he thought he had dived in real time.
On the Offside it happened so fast and as I have said before its easy with lines on the pitch and stopping the play, however when the 1st shot went in there was a Chelsea player in the goal with the Manu one, the shot then came in very fast the linesman would of had to look where the ball rebounded to, waited for the shot then changed he line of vision, by the time he reacted to that Manu and Chelsea players were out of the goal and he was back onside, the only way he could of give offside if he was watching both positions at the same time, not possible. The offside is nothing to do with the ref, but it was the wrong decision but nothing like the blatant ones we see week in week out. Only way to get it right all the time is technology.
Very slippery slope with comments against ref, given what they likely put up with from the players every game.
Wrong, the players off the pitch would not matter. If Chicarito had stayed in the goal and the goal scored then it stands. You cannot use a player out of bounds to make an offside decision call. The lines should have been in line with the defense as soon as the ball cleared.
This call was a very simple call, nothing complicated about it.
I know the rules.
It wasn't a simple call, it all happened so fast and by the time the ball got back to him the linesman couldn't see him past Czech or defender, it was the wrong call but it was understandable how he made it in real time.
Again, that's a cop out, the speed at which it happens and Petr Cech getting in the way. None have to do with the decision. We are talking about the lines man here not the ref. The linesman main function is to adjudicate OFFSIDE.
Where do you think he thought Chicharito came from?
These are the same guys that can average when a 40 yard ball was hit and when the strker breaks the back line.
Post by: D.H.W on October 29, 2012, 03:52:21 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on October 29, 2012, 03:52:54 PM
Oh the irony-Chelski complaining about that racist language was used toward their players. Ah wonder if Terry and Cole will be sharing their expertise on the matter?
Cause at Man United 2 wrongs makes a game winner.
??? What does that have to do with Terry racially abusing a player and Cole lying about it?
What's ironic about Chelsea complaining about racists language being directed to their players ???
Your club jumped tru hopes tuh support Terry when he was accused of racially abusing Ferdinand. Even was accused of altering statements by those who presided over the FA hearing. And come down soft on him; now all yuh have the gall tuh complain? Is alright for Terry tuh call a player a f@ckin black c**t right? Yuh still doh see the irony? Maybe the ref was just repeating tuh Mikel and Mata what he thought Mikel and Mata thought he had called them.
Post by: D.H.W on October 29, 2012, 03:57:31 PM
Oh the irony-Chelski complaining about that racist language was used toward their players. Ah wonder if Terry and Cole will be sharing their expertise on the matter?
Cause at Man United 2 wrongs makes a game winner.
??? What does that have to do with Terry racially abusing a player and Cole lying about it?
What's ironic about Chelsea complaining about racists language being directed to their players ???
Your club jumped tru hopes tuh support Terry when he was accused of racially abusing Ferdinand. Even was accused of altering statements by those who presided over the FA hearing. And come down soft on him; now all yuh have the gall tuh complain? Is alright for Terry tuh call a player a f@ckin black c**t right? Yuh still doh see the irony? Maybe the ref was just repeating tuh Mikel and Mata what he thought Mikel and Mata thought he had called them.
Hahaha
Post by: Blue on October 29, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
Wrong, the players off the pitch would not matter. If Chicarito had stayed in the goal and the goal scored then it stands. You cannot use a player out of bounds to make an offside decision call. The lines should have been in line with the defense as soon as the ball cleared.
This call was a very simple call, nothing complicated about it.
Players off the pitch don't matter only because they are not involved in the play, not because of their positioning. If him being in the goal (off the pitch) means that he was not offside, then the minute he crossed the goal line back into play he was onside, because there were other Chelsea players on the goal line.
Instead, what Kev said is correct... he WAS in an offside position, but the ass't ref just missed it given how quickly everything went down and how many moving pieces he had to keep up with.
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2012, 08:30:23 PM
Yeah, because Anton Ferdinand is the only person involved.
So they taking up fire rage for Anton Ferdinand... okay ::)
What's ironic about Chelsea complaining about racists language being directed to their players ???
Because they have a man found guilty of using racial language at another player as their captain. Definition of irony if you ask me.
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Again, that's a cop out, the speed at which it happens and Petr Cech getting in the way. None have to do with the decision. We are talking about the lines man here not the ref. The linesman main function is to adjudicate OFFSIDE.
Where do you think he thought Chicharito came from?
These are the same guys that can average when a 40 yard ball was hit and when the strker breaks the back line.
The linesman in the Liverpool game had no excuse and he blew the call... shit happens, move on.
This is not like Rob Stiles giving Malouda a phantom penalty against Liverpool 5 yrs ago that ended up costing us the title... shit happens, move on.
That should keep Mango Chow occupied for a bit...
Post by: Banter Banton on October 29, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
One more thing....all this talk about a steward getting injured by missiles from the stands is not true. Missiles were raining down when Hernandez scored but the stewards weren't even on the field at that point. The stewards were sent out shortly after that (as normal - they usually create a ring around the field about 15 minutes before the end) but one of them slipped and injured himself. Everyone near him seemed pretty bemused.
Ryan is the John Terry of this forum.. ie a total C&*T
http://www.youtube.com/v/8K_RGPXL8zo
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 10:40:21 PM
Yeah, because Anton Ferdinand is the only person involved.
So they taking up fire rage for Anton Ferdinand... okay ::)
Thought you would have figured it out, if Anton is the only focus then......What's ironic about Chelsea complaining about racists language being directed to their players ???
Because they have a man found guilty of using racial language at another player as their captain. Definition of irony if you ask me. Let me type slowly, because they have a man who was found guilty of something wrong does not mean they should not report if they felt the same was done to them. The irony is understood, but mine was in response to the context in which it wasposted (or read by me)
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2012, 10:44:03 PM
Ever heard the saying "the chickens have come home to roost"? No one has suggested that reporting the comments to Mikel was inappropriate or misguided. It's just ironic, whether you choose to agree with that or not.
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 10:45:00 PM
Wrong, the players off the pitch would not matter. If Chicarito had stayed in the goal and the goal scored then it stands. You cannot use a player out of bounds to make an offside decision call. The lines should have been in line with the defense as soon as the ball cleared.
This call was a very simple call, nothing complicated about it.
Players off the pitch don't matter only because they are not involved in the play, not because of their positioning. If him being in the goal (off the pitch) means that he was not offside, then the minute he crossed the goal line back into play he was onside, because there were other Chelsea players on the goal line.
Instead, what Kev said is correct... he WAS in an offside position, but the ass't ref just missed it given how quickly everything went down and how many moving pieces he had to keep up with.
There was no other Chelsea player off the pitch, even if there was, they cannot be used to determine offside. Chicharito became offside when he stepped back on the pitch because the last LEGAL player for Chelsea was ahead of him.Chicharito came from an offside position and became involved in the play.
Can't see how that play was distracting. Seriously, to me that was routine. :-\
Post by: elan on October 29, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Before yuh attempt a misguided journey down the path of smartassery... read yuh own post slowly yuhself. There is rich irony in a club, whose captain has been found guilty of racial abuse, a club who then gives him a slap on the wrist and declines to remove him as captain... now complaining about racial abuse of one of their own players. Ever heard the saying "the chickens have come home to roost"? No one has suggested that reporting the comments to Mikel was inappropriate or misguided. It's just ironic, whether you choose to agree with that or not.
Of course it's ironic, duh. But, no one is whining. They did what they had to do.
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2012, 10:50:38 PM
So they taking up fire rage for Anton Ferdinand... okay ::)
Thought you would have figured it out, if Anton is the only focus then......
Well we are all entitled to our own opinions, but you seem to be saying that the FA (who have no control over the officials) has apparently instructed the officials to punish Chelsea for Terry's wrongdoing. My perspective is that the FA could give a rat's ass about Anton Ferdinand, and as such has no special incentive to punish Chelsea anymore than they've already punished Terry. Why would they want to punish the club for the actions of a solitary individual player? Doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me. Maybe is just me though...
Of course it's ironic, duh. But, no one is whining. They did what they had to do.
You contrary for no reason... not you who question
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What's ironic about Chelsea complaining about racists language being directed to their players?
Post by: doublet750 on October 31, 2012, 09:34:05 AM
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2012, 05:40:13 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on October 31, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 10:05:10 PM
Yep great night at the Bridge; Chelski- Standing up to racism since Sunday! (copyright)
:rotfl: :rotfl: Allyuh fork in people doh miss a beat boy!!
Post by: injunchile on November 01, 2012, 06:18:23 AM
Post by: Banter Banton on November 01, 2012, 08:44:13 AM
Great night at the Bridge :beermug:
Great Night for you racist twats
Chelsea to Investigate Monkey Gesture made by Chelsea Fan towards Danny Welbeck:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8216971/Chelsea-investigate-apparent-monkey-gesture-made-by-fan-against-Manchester-United
Chelsea "will take strongest possible action" against the fan if found guilty. Club captaincy it is then
Post by: Banter Banton on November 01, 2012, 08:53:54 AM
Brought on: Hazard (32m), Oscar (25m), Ramires (18m)
Academy graduates involved: 0
Total cost: £185.125m
United: Lindegaard (2m), Rafael (2m), Wootton (0), Keane (0), Buttner (3m), Fletcher (0), Anderson (20m), Nani (18m), Giggs (0), Hernandez (6m), Welbeck (0)
Brought on: Powell (4m), Tunnicliffe (0), Macheda (0)
Academy graduates involved: 7
Total cost: £55m
Congratulations to Chelsea on a superb victory
Post by: giggsy11 on November 02, 2012, 07:59:55 PM
Yep great night at the Bridge; Chelski- Standing up to racism since Sunday! (copyright)
:rotfl: :rotfl: Allyuh fork in people doh miss a beat boy!!
Seriously, what the fork Chelski was thinking tuh rush tuh file this complaint after such an emotionally charged game? Dey better hope it aint end up like dey previous situations involving refs or else dey will suffer some very negative/permanant backlash.
Post by: D.H.W on November 02, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 02, 2012, 08:37:16 PM
Yep great night at the Bridge; Chelski- Standing up to racism since Sunday! (copyright)
:rotfl: :rotfl: Allyuh fork in people doh miss a beat boy!!
Seriously, what the fork Chelski was thinking tuh rush tuh file this complaint after such an emotionally charged game? Dey better hope it aint end up like dey previous situations involving refs or else dey will suffer some very negative/permanant backlash.
I wasn't dey, so I doh know. they dropped one complaint and pursued the other, so they must feel like dey have a case....
Always the victim eh Chelsea ?
Oh puh-LEEZ!! Who does cry "victim" more dan "sir alex"?!
Post by: lefty on November 05, 2012, 06:14:35 PM
Post by: lefty on November 07, 2012, 03:42:27 PM
Post by: Blue on November 07, 2012, 04:22:31 PM
ah question for chelsea people......moses at d top off d attack...what alyuh tink.....ah know d evidence thin...at best......but when he plays he seems to be where Torres should be more often than Torres and doing what torres should be doin more often than Torres..........or is it jus me........Ryan especially, enlighten mih nah
I think Torres is doing ok at the moment, bringing the attacking mids into the game well. But if he starts to play badly again, I wouldnt have a problem with Moses getting a runout at striker. Having said that, I like him in his current role.
Post by: Blue on November 07, 2012, 04:24:28 PM
Post by: lefty on November 08, 2012, 06:24:29 AM
ah question for chelsea people......moses at d top off d attack...what alyuh tink.....ah know d evidence thin...at best......but when he plays he seems to be where Torres should be more often than Torres and doing what torres should be doin more often than Torres..........or is it jus me........Ryan especially, enlighten mih nah
I think Torres is doing ok at the moment, bringing the attacking mids into the game well. But if he starts to play badly again, I wouldnt have a problem with Moses getting a runout at striker. Having said that, I like him in his current role.
ok cool, but yesterday in particular Torres seemed to get tied up alot, even by his own two legs at times, his passing and interplay was good, but his penitration was lacking, I dont think he won a single one on one battle lastnight, always got blocked or robbed easily.
Lucky escape today. Shaktar are a very, very good side and I have no doubt that, if they still need to get points going into the final game, they will rinse out Juventus back in Ukraine.
Dat defense get leaky too bad boy, we started out good, but now we conceding heavily.... at least we scoring goals and fightin back into games....but holes need to get plugged.
Post by: Blue on November 08, 2012, 01:17:20 PM
Chelsea have taken up their option to purchase Fluminense right-back Wallace for €5.5 million, according to Brazilian news outlet Globo Esporte.
Wallace, 18, has seen 40% of his economic rights owned by the Blues since August 2010, when a portion of his ownership was transferred as part of the deal that took Deco to the Brazilian side.
The deal is yet to be officially confirmed, but the newspaper reports that it will be announced at the conclusion of the Brasileirão championship - which Fluminense could secure this weekend.
The clubs and Wallace's representative, Fred Moraes, met on Tuesday afternoon in Rio de Janeiro to complete a deal which will see the Brazil Under-20 international move to England in June 2013.
The full-back was part of the same Brazil Under-17 side as Chelsea midfielder Lucas Piazon at the 2011 World Cup in Mexico and, soon after the tournament, found himself making steps at first-team level.
Wallace has made 23 senior appearances for the Tricolor Carioca and looks set to shortly add the Brasileirão title to the Rio de Janeiro state championship title he won in June.
Fluminense have reportedly lined-up Ponte Preta's Cicinho as a possible replacement for the 2013 season.
Abel Braga: Wallace to Chelsea agreed long ago
Fluminense manager Abel Braga confirmed to reporters on Wednesday that the sale of full-back Wallace to Chelsea was agreed "long ago", despite both parties' officially refusing to confirm the transfer.
Wallace, 18, is set to join Chelsea next June after the two sides reportedly agreed a €5.5 million deal for his transfer - as revealed by Globo Esporte on Wednesday.
Later in the day, Abel Braga confirmed to reporters that Wallace would leave the club next season and insisted it was the right move for all parties involved.
"The sale of Wallace was agreed a long time ago, he is a player that has come through well," Braga told reporters.
"You think clubs from abroad sign him players on the basis of one game? They analyse players for two or three months, sometimes a year. They are taking a great player and Fluminense is right to sell him."
Fluminense executive director Rodrigo Caetano also confirmed that negotiations had taken place, but insisted nothing had been finalised. However, he pointed to a confidentiality clause that meant he could disclose nothing more regarding the move.
Caetano told Terra: "I can't deny that there is a negotiation with Chelsea, but it's not complete and we still need to sort the documentation.
"There is a confidentiality clause and it will be tricky if information is leaked. We hope that does not happen."
Post by: Bakes on November 21, 2012, 03:22:31 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 21, 2012, 04:02:43 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 21, 2012, 04:13:03 AM
Post by: D.H.W on November 21, 2012, 06:01:14 AM
Post by: dinho on November 21, 2012, 06:43:04 AM
The team is not even playing poorly, basically there are 2 problems right now both very fixable.
1. Torres... They should really just cut their losses and realize that this man is not the player they bought and move on from that. If you have a whole preseason behind you, a sure pick on a Chelsea side with the most potent midfield behind you, the likes of Mata, Hazard and Oscar loading yuh gun and no pressure if you not scoring.... And you STILL can't even look like you finding the net, then the problem is YOU. Then the squad is bereft of any striking alternatives.
2. The CBs... Luiz and Cahill, but especially Luiz has not been performing well and his interim partnership with Cahill has not been solid. Cahill seems to be dropping too deep and not stepping in and being assertive in the back.
But besides that the performances have been good.. Its just the fixture list has been rough with 2 games a week and difficult ones at that over a short stretch.
When you see the level of the performance in the second half against Man Utd, the win versus spurs and the comeback victory against Shaktar Donetsk, I find it very difficult to think that the team was in any kinda crisis situation to merit this. I actually liked what Di Matteo was doing with this team.
4 points off the top of the table with basically no striker all season is not a bad feat. I would even go so far as to say City have been in worse form than Chelsea.
Madness.
Post by: mukumsplau on November 21, 2012, 07:02:56 AM
and Rafa?!! lolol
Post by: davidephraim on November 21, 2012, 07:07:31 AM
Post by: davidephraim on November 21, 2012, 07:09:44 AM
Post by: Big Magician on November 21, 2012, 07:39:20 AM
they never really wanted him there....the CL win make Chelsea HAVE to give him the job...or else it would look bad to the public
Post by: asylumseeker on November 21, 2012, 07:53:12 AM
Post by: Bitter on November 21, 2012, 09:02:55 AM
Post by: D.H.W on November 21, 2012, 11:13:30 AM
Post by: Toppa on November 21, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/21/chelsea-didier-drogba-china-loan
Post by: davidephraim on November 21, 2012, 11:31:07 AM
Now dey trying to bring back de Drogs.Wow, If Abram do dat, it will distinguish him not only as a mad man but also a shamelessman. All the key ingredients to do what he does. Ah feel Ron and Jose is ah team now. Ron, Jose and Essien!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/21/chelsea-didier-drogba-china-loan
Post by: giggsy11 on November 21, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
Post by: Toppa on November 21, 2012, 12:38:40 PM
Roberto Di Matteo is the latest Chelsea manager to be removed from his post by the club's Russian owner Roman Abramovich, but what happened to his predecessors?
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Just six months ago Di Matteo led Chelsea to the Champions League. Here we look at his predecessors in the Chelsea hotseat and what became of them:
Claudio Ranieri (September 2000 to May 2004)
Life under Abramovich: The first manager to spend Abramovich's billions was under pressure from day one amid rumours Sven-Goran Eriksson was being lined up to replace him. The "Tinkerman" tag did not help the Italian and, despite finishing second in the Premier League and reaching the Champions League semi-finals, he was sacked.
Life after Abramovich: Returned to his former club Valencia, immediately winning the European Super Cup, but was sacked six months later. Has won nothing since, despite landing prestigious jobs at Parma, Juventus, Roma, and Internazionale. Currently managing Monaco in France's second tier.
José Mourinho (June 2004 to September 2007)
Life under Abramovich: Declared himself the "Special One" and completely lived up to the moniker, becoming the most successful Chelsea manager ever. Immediately ended their 50-year wait for a league title with back-to-back Premier League crowns and also won the FA Cup and two Carling Cups. Champions League glory remained elusive and a power struggle with Abramovich eventually saw him leave.
Life after Abramovich: Heavily linked with the England job before eventually resurfacing at Internazionale. One of the most successful managers in their history, he became only the third coach to win the European Cup with two different clubs. Now at Real Madrid where he became the first man to win league titles in England, Italy and Spain, although Champions League success currently evades him in the Spanish capital.
Avram Grant (September 2007 to May 2008)
Life under Abramovich: Less than two months after arriving as Chelsea's director of football, Grant found himself parachuted into the manager's role. Speculation was rife he did not have the backing of the dressing room but still managed to get the club to their only Champions League final up until then. Also reached the Carling Cup final and finished second in the Premier League before he was sacked.
Life after Abramovich: History repeated itself as Grant joined Portsmouth as director of football in October 2009, once again becoming manager less than two months later. Boosted his reputation by leading the side to the FA Cup final despite administration saga that saw them relegated. Resigned and joined West Ham but was sacked after they were also relegated.
Luiz Felipe Scolari (July 2008 to February 2009)
Life under Abramovich: Billed as the man to inspire Chelsea to take the final step in the Champions League, the World Cup-winner enjoyed a flying start but things soon began to go wrong amid rumours of dressing room unrest. The timing of the Brazilian's sacking after just seven months still came as shock.
Life after Abramovich: Made surprise decision to move to Uzbekistan and join the champions Bunyodkor, although the salary reportedly made him one of the highest-paid managers around. Left after less than a year and returned to former club Palmeiras, but recently lost his job.
Guus Hiddink (February 2009 to May 2009)
Life under Abramovich: Still revered by players and fans for rescuing Chelsea's season while combining the Russia job with a caretaker role at Stamford Bridge. Won the FA Cup and was desperately unlucky not to reach the Champions League final, Hiddink lost only one game in charge.
Life after Abramovich: Continued as Russia boss until June 2010, leaving after failing to lead them to the World Cup. Became Turkey manager but left in November after losing another play-off, this time for the European Championships. Persistently linked with a return to Chelsea after Carlo Ancelotti was sacked before joining the mega-rich Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala in February.
Carlo Ancelotti (June 2009 to May 2011)
Life under Abramovich: Recruited largely because of two Champions League successes at Milan, instead delivered Chelsea's first ever double in his first season. Nevertheless, his reputation was damaged by losing in the Champions League last 16, and a trophyless season followed.
Life after Abramovich: Linked with several jobs in England and abroad, December saw him appointed manager of the big-spending Ligue 1 leaders Paris Saint-Germain.
André Villas-Boas (June 2011 to March 2012)
Life under Abramovich: Arrived in London to a splash of publicity and dubbed the new Mourinho after a stellar spell in charge of Porto, which took in domestic and European titles. Cracks soon emerged, though, with senior players reportedly baffled by his methods and unhappy with his selection policy. He was sacked after a defeat at West Brom.
Life after Abramovich: Returned to English football in the summer when he replaced Harry Redknapp at Tottenham. Domestic form has been mixed, with a memorable victory at Manchester United the highlight and punishing derby defeats to Arsenal and Chelsea the lows.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/21/sacked-chelsea-managers-abramovich-matteo
Post by: elan on November 21, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Yesterday the tactics was madness even more so after the first goal and then nutten changed after the first half. RDM played it a little to cool I feel.
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 21, 2012, 01:26:33 PM
Post by: boss on November 21, 2012, 01:28:01 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/2987554/title/benitez-appointed
Post by: lefty on November 21, 2012, 01:34:12 PM
Post by: Observer on November 21, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
But he pull a rabbit out the hat in CL & they had no choice.
Post by: Bakes on November 21, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
Absolute madness!!
The team is not even playing poorly, basically there are 2 problems right now both very fixable.
1. Torres... They should really just cut their losses and realize that this man is not the player they bought and move on from that.
Correction... Torres is EXACTLY the player Chelsea bought.
David Ephraim also has it right in my book, the Benitez move is nothing more than Abramovitch refusing to admit that he bad spend on waste man Torres, and now he grasping at Spanish straws to try and save face. Torres attitude start tuh stink the last six months at Liverpool, basically since he return from the WC. I dunno if was lack of confidence coming off injury (his first real extended injury spell of his career), I think it shake him and he was never really comfortable pushing himself after that. Then at the WC he get treated like an afterthought which I think further mess up he head. He get disillusioned quick with Liverpool, right or wrong, and decide to rush off glory hunting to Chelsea thinking all he needed was a change in scenery without addressing the demons in his head. Well, now we seeing where the fault lay all along.
Post by: Bakes on November 21, 2012, 02:57:23 PM
Just madness! It just goes to show they did not want to hire him in the first place.
But he pull a rabbit out the hat in CL & they had no choice.
Agree with you and Big Mag here... I think they always wanted a bigger name. Benitez is a space holder... he have until the end of the season to conjure up some magic with Torres, then it's onto the next.
Post by: Blue on November 21, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
Hopefully we continue the trend and fire that fat f**ker after we lose to City on Sunday. Watch how we will boo him this weekend...no Chelsea fan can stand him.
And as mediocre as Torres is (and always will be)...lets not forget that Chelsea have had no problems scoring goals this season. We've scored 45 goals in 19 competitive games this season. The problem is purely defensive, largely the result of our less defensive minded attacking quartet.
Post by: lefty on November 21, 2012, 05:02:41 PM
What a f**kin shambles. :puking:
Hopefully we continue the trend and fire that fat f**ker after we lose to City on Sunday. Watch how we will boo him this weekend...no Chelsea fan can stand him.
what wrong wit dat fuuckin russian boy....no fuuckin patience or honor for that matter jeezan ages
Post by: D.H.W on November 21, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on November 22, 2012, 11:05:15 AM
Post by: D.H.W on November 22, 2012, 12:17:10 PM
Post by: elan on November 22, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
Clattenburg not charged. Obi Mikel charged with abusing and threatening Clattenburg.
So you did really expect them to charge Clattenberg? Which of the 4 refs stepping up to back up what Jon Obi say? The FA is one big bunch ah jokers, they eh much different from the TTFF.
Post by: Bakes on November 23, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
So you did really expect them to charge Clattenberg? Which of the 4 refs stepping up to back up what Jon Obi say? The FA is one big bunch ah jokers, they eh much different from the TTFF.
Nah Elan, yuh tripping. Obi never even accuse Clattenburg of anything, is Ramires who say he hear Clattenburg call he team mate ah monkey... something which nobody else, not even other Chelsea players nearby (certainly not Obi) could confirm.
Post by: fari on November 23, 2012, 03:13:59 PM
So you did really expect them to charge Clattenberg? Which of the 4 refs stepping up to back up what Jon Obi say? The FA is one big bunch ah jokers, they eh much different from the TTFF.
Nah Elan, yuh tripping. Obi never even accuse Clattenburg of anything, is Ramires who say he hear Clattenburg call he team mate ah monkey... something which nobody else, not even other Chelsea players nearby (certainly not Obi) could confirm.
ramires??? he could talk english? for that matter he could understand English english??
Post by: dinho on November 23, 2012, 04:03:14 PM
From what I understand, Mikel was haranguing the referee after the bad decisions, and the referee said something to the effect of "I don't give a monkey's ass"... Standard British speak..
Ramires with a limited understanding of English heard this and tell Mikel, "hoss yuh eh hear that man call yuh ah monkey ass"... And Mikel trip off and gone and gunta Clattenburg in the dressing room after.
All in all that's understandable, and it is instructive that the FA acknowledges that Ramires claim was made in "good faith".. It's also instructive that Mikel is not being charged for making the claim, but he's being charged for his behavior to the ref in the dressing room.
Where Chelsea went wrong here was to go public with the allegation instead of following a more guarded course of action.. But in the heat of the moment, feeling rightly aggrieved at the calls that went against them and the outcome of the game, they wild out. No issue if they face consequences for the way in which they handled the affair, but the actual incident itself seems like it was a gross misunderstanding.
Post by: Bakes on November 24, 2012, 06:51:15 PM
Chelsea have had unprecedented success under the Russian but they are fast losing admirers
Owen Gibson
The Guardian, Friday 23 November 2012 18.02 EST
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The Chelsea owner, Roman Abramovich, embraces John Terry after the club won the
Champions League in Munich. Photograph: Owen Humphreys/PA
At Stamford Bridge, Roman Abramovich is everywhere and nowhere. When Rafael Benítez was unveiled in a suite named after the man who captained Chelsea to their only league title of the pre-Abramovich era, the Spaniard blinked into the flashbulbs alone apart from the club's overworked communications director.
The chief executive, Ron Gourlay, was absent, despite the FA having just announced that the referee Mark Clattenburg had no case to answer over Chelsea's claim that he had racially abused one of their players. Nor was Bruce Buck, their urbane chairman, there to face the music. And, of course, there was no sign of the man who has poured £1bn into Chelsea over the past decade, around £86m on paying up the contracts of sacked managers alone, and who last week wrote off his latest £166m loan.
Abramovich, who will next year celebrate the 10th anniversary of his dramatic arrival as Chelsea's then-unknown new owner, has always let his money do the talking. Not a great deal more is known about his intentions now than it was then.
His fortune, estimated this year at $12.1bn (£7.5bn) by Forbes, has been invested in yachts (including $250m on the world's biggest), fine art, a private jet and homes throughout the world. But, at Chelsea at least, his controversially acquired fortune does not appear to have bought him happiness.
For the first time, pressure on him to break that silence and explain his decisions is coming from the club's fans as well as the media. Where they once sang songs about being "f**king loaded" and clapped along to Russian folk ditties before kick-off, some have begun to feel ambivalent about the dysfunctional way the club is run.
Chelsea, pulled in all directions by the owner's capricious nature and the accompanying pendulum swings in investment, are at once European champions, third in the league, in a state of perpetual revolution and under fire from all sides. Abramovich is a constant presence at the Bridge on matchdays, but satisfaction remains elusive – witness his expression in May when, having won the European Cup, he awkwardly embraced the man it is now clear he never really wanted as manager.
At various points during the Russian's tenure, Chelsea have claimed progress in moving towards a sustainable model and a semblance of normality in their executive structure. Just last week, they announced they had recorded a profit for the first time under Abramovich – albeit before last summer's splurge on talent including Oscar and Eden Hazard.
At various points, the rhetoric sounded convincing. But over the past year, it has seemed ridiculous. The owner's effect on Chelsea's hierarchy resembles nothing so much as Rupert Murdoch's empire during the period when his former lieutenant Andrew Neil referred to it as "the court of the Sun King", with underlings endlessly trying to second guess his desires at several steps removed.
Thirteen months have passed between the complaint that John Terry called Anton Ferdinand a "f**king black c**t" during a match against QPR and the Football Association deciding there was no evidence to support the claim that Clattenburg racially insulted Mikel John Obi. During that time, Abramovich has employed three managers.
They took in a debilitating legal saga that ended with the FA finding their captain guilty of racially abusing an opponent, their lowest league finish of the Abramovich era, the brutal sacking of two managers, and the usual summer whirl of activity in the transfer market at a net cost of £71.5m. Somewhere in the midst of all that, Chelsea enjoyed their greatest ever triumph in lifting the European Cup on a heady night in the Allianz Arena. Six months later, it is little exaggeration to say they are back at square one.
Internally, the club's power structures are strangely opaque. Abramovich's PA, Marina Granovskaia, has assumed a pivotal role as the main conduit to the owner on many matters. The technical director, Michael Emenalo, has risen virtually without trace – rapidly promoted from scout to assistant coach to his current post.
At Benítez's unveiling, he repeatedly referred to Emenalo's key role as the conduit to the owner on footballing matters: "The main thing is that I have spoken to Michael Emenalo, the technical director, and he's my link. I like to speak about football with him"
It has reached a stage where the once-lampooned Manchester City, for all the money they too have thrown at players and agents, appear enlightened benefactors in comparison.
City have invested in a systemic plan and an executive structure that should bear fruit long term and limit the potential for future embarrassment. Their Abu Dhabi owners appear to have learned from their mistakes, while Abramovich appears doomed to continue repeating his.
He might reasonably point to the trophies in the cabinet and nine years of unprecedented success, even if the most reliable-long term barometer – league position – appears on a downward tilt. And Chelsea too have invested in infrastructure – in the training ground at Cobham and a state-of-the-art academy, even if the results of the latter have been mixed at best.
But compared to their rivals for the upper berths of Deloitte's annual football finance revenue league table – both Manchester clubs, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Arsenal – there does not appear to be anything resembling a strategic plan.
How could there be when it is run according to one man's whims? The Russian's penchant for micro-management at his football club seems at odds with his hands-off attitude to the rest of his remaining business portfolio, which includes stakes in steel giant Evraz and mining firm Highland Gold.
Eight managers in six seasons, and the inevitable accompanying upheaval, is part of the story. But he has ended up not much further forward – Claudio Ranieri, the original "dead man walking", managed second in the Premier League and the semi-final of the Champions League in Abramovich's first season.
Abramovich famously fell in love with football after watching Manchester United beat Real Madrid 4-3 at Old Trafford. If his goal was to create a club that was admired from afar as well as within the confines of Stamford Bridge, he has ended up doing almost the opposite. Never have neutrals been more united in their distaste and even among a minority of season ticket holders there is suddenly talk of protests and boycotts.
On the pitch and off, many of Chelsea's current issues can be traced back to the shockwaves of Abramovich's split with the man who delivered the club's first league titles in half a century. While José Mourinho's team was expensively acquired, it was undeniably his.
That began to shift when Mourinho had Andriy Shevchenko foisted upon him and reached its logical conclusion when Roberto Di Matteo was sacked for failing to get the best out of Fernando Torres. The seven managers who have followed Mourinho have had to work largely with the expensively acquired but mismatched tools they were given. Benítez may again return to the spine of Mourinho's team to provide the steel and focus sorely lacking last week in Turin, leaving the wholesale overhaul of the squad that André Villas-Boas was brought in to initiate still on the drawing board.
Political manoeuverings and an alternative powerbase installed by Abramovich under Frank Arnesen did for Mourinho and ever since the internal machinations in the boardroom Chelsea have been Byzantine in their complexity. Insiders say Gourlay has brought a degree of stability since taking over from Peter Kenyon – but that there is only so much he can do as the ground constantly shifts beneath him. There are ongoing issues surrounding the stadium – with progress over finding a larger, more lucrative alternative to Stamford Bridge stalled – and the string of controversies is in danger of damaging the club's commercial potential around the globe.
All the biggest clubs look to exploit their brands overseas while struggling to comply with Uefa's break even rules; Manchester United are way ahead of the rest and Arsenal believe – rightly or wrongly – that their image is a major selling point. Despite the best efforts of their commercial team, it is becoming harder to see where Chelsea fit in, Kenyon's infamous boast that he would "turn the world blue" notwithstanding.
As Pep Guardiola ponders the situation from New York, it is surely inconceivable that the fallout from the past few weeks has not also registered with him, the real object of Abramovich's desire.
Chelsea would argue that with success comes jealousy. There may be some truth in that, but it does not go nearly far enough to explaining the reasons why they have become most neutral's least favoured team. The last 13 months in particular have been marked by a string of misjudgments, compounded by the lack of structure.
The rancid stench of the Terry incident was not cleared as well as it might have been – with Chelsea refusing to apologise directly to Ferdinand and instead focusing on their "duty of care" to Terry. The same was true on Thursday, when there was no remorse for the difficulties Clattenburg had been through.
Chelsea were right to say they had a duty of care to report Ramires' complaint, but they could have handled the fallout differently. An expression of sympathy would not have been the same as an admission of culpability. It is now understood that Chelsea will make a gesture of reconciliation of some kind towards Clattenburg in an attempt to calm troubled waters, but they are again left looking reactive rather than proactive.
Chelsea have often polarised opinion as a club but there have been times – the swinging Kings Road era of the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Gullit/Vialli/Zola-era, even Carlo Ancelotti's tenure – when they have been considered more warmly. Now the brand appears toxic.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/nov/23/roman-abramovich-chelsea-toxic/print
Post by: Bakes on November 24, 2012, 06:58:15 PM
Still Rafa on some smartman thing dey lol, he setting up Emenalo fuh all de short-term praise... and de long-term blame.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 25, 2012, 07:27:14 AM
Post by: D.H.W on November 25, 2012, 07:33:08 AM
Nobody wants a 10days wuk with Chelsea.
Post by: Bourbon on November 25, 2012, 08:33:32 AM
:)
Nobody wants a 10days wuk with Chelsea.
I go take it. Make sure the severance terms nice..and run them into the ground. ;D
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 25, 2012, 10:23:08 AM
Hopefully, Benitez' reign will be this interesting. Perhaps a great run and a title and all will be forgotten..
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2012, 11:27:27 AM
Post by: D.H.W on November 25, 2012, 11:50:43 AM
Post by: Observer on November 25, 2012, 11:56:07 AM
New man steps in, wants the job, has a history with the player and will do as the boss wants, simply because he has little to lose by doing so. :frustrated: for Chelski fans :frustrated:
Post by: Blue on November 25, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2012, 01:05:42 PM
As an outsider looking in, it seems like this. The Owner bought a player that the coach in place did not want and advised against. This coach was fired once he started placing this player on the bench. Interim comes in, wants the job and does what is necessary to get it. ie plays the player. he then gets the job on the back of results, drops the player, now he is in the big seat and as a consequence gets the boot.
New man steps in, wants the job, has a history with the player and will do as the boss wants, simply because he has little to lose by doing so. :frustrated: for Chelski fans :frustrated:
Torres was there before AVB though... I think AVB was genuinely interested in working with Torres (who at that point wouldn't?), but he soon realized what a cancer he was on the field. Not only that, but Torres also wasn't producing, so of course he get bench. Much as we saw with Shevchenko though, Abramovich decide he didn't pay that much for a player to be riding pine so he start tuh interfere with AVB's selection. I think RDM take the job knowing full well he have to stomach some of that interference. Evidently that still wasn't enough. Rafa take it because he desperate... kinda hard luck fuh Chelsea fans, but this situation is precisely what them and the club deserves. They've benefited from Abramovich's ruthlessness in the past... now they suffering because of it. So it goes.
Dunno if it came across on the cameras but the WHOLE stadium booed Benitez when they introduced him. It was deafening. Most unpopular appointment ever.
Makes you wonder if he'll even live to see the end of the season at this rate.
Post by: Observer on November 25, 2012, 01:21:14 PM
As an outsider looking in, it seems like this. The Owner bought a player that the coach in place did not want and advised against. This coach was fired once he started placing this player on the bench. Interim comes in, wants the job and does what is necessary to get it. ie plays the player. he then gets the job on the back of results, drops the player, now he is in the big seat and as a consequence gets the boot.
New man steps in, wants the job, has a history with the player and will do as the boss wants, simply because he has little to lose by doing so. :frustrated: for Chelski fans :frustrated:
Torres was there before AVB though... I think AVB was genuinely interested in working with Torres (who at that point wouldn't?), but he soon realized what a cancer he was on the field. Not only that, but Torres also wasn't producing, so of course he get bench. Much as we saw with Shevchenko though, Abramovich decide he didn't pay that much for a player to be riding pine so he start tuh interfere with AVB's selection. I think RDM take the job knowing full well he have to stomach some of that interference. Evidently that still wasn't enough. Rafa take it because he desperate... kinda hard luck fuh Chelsea fans, but this situation is precisely what them and the club deserves. They've benefited from Abramovich's ruthlessness in the past... now they suffering because of it. So it goes.Dunno if it came across on the cameras but the WHOLE stadium booed Benitez when they introduced him. It was deafening. Most unpopular appointment ever.
Makes you wonder if he'll even live to see the end of the season at this rate.
Bakes I was talking about Ancelotti, first and foremost, then the domino effect.
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2012, 01:54:11 PM
Bakes I was talking about Ancelotti, first and foremost, then the domino effect.
Okay... is de 'interim' part that throw mih off then... reading back I see you went from Ancellotti to RDM.
Post by: elan on November 25, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Post by: elan on November 25, 2012, 02:19:49 PM
word on de street is.....Pep Guardiola lookin' to go and coach manu......Abramovich, for all the money in the world, may never be able to attract a good coach to this team.....any more. Not even arsene9 like this much drama.
Pep did his do with a club he knew inside out and a stable full of Arabians, what's the expectations for him in charge of clydesdale?
Post by: giggsy11 on November 25, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
Dunno if it came across on the cameras but the WHOLE stadium booed Benitez when they introduced him. It was deafening. Most unpopular appointment ever.
So why all yuh didn't boo the owner? So all yuh wouldn't have booed if it was anybody but Rafa? All yuh had a chance tuh let Roman know you didn't like his move, but ah guess Rafa was an easier target right? Suck ups!
Post by: giggsy11 on November 25, 2012, 02:32:12 PM
No way that was a yellow card for Ballo........David Luiz should have been the one who got the yellow for impeding or professional foul.
Very true, he even shifted so he could catch him. Luiz like tuh pull that wrestling move a lot, and the refs usually let it go. A feel for Ballotelli on that one.
Post by: D.H.W on November 25, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Post by: Deeks on November 25, 2012, 03:08:18 PM
Bakes, you have a point. When you winning, he is a genius. When you losing he is ah goat. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 25, 2012, 10:54:02 PM
They've benefited from Abramovich's ruthlessness in the past... now they suffering because of it. So it goesl;
Bakes, you have a point. When you winning, he is a genius. When you losing he is ah goat. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Nobody has ever called Abramovich a "genius". His deep pockets and relatively free hand with his money always been appreciated by Chelsea fans but his meddling with the team never has been, from the first obvious sign of it with Mourinho and Shevchenko. His getting rid of Ranieri for Jose had to have been seen at that time, as par for the course with a new owner bringing in a new coach by the Chelsea faithful. No one expected that it would be par for the course every season and no one would have appreciated it had they known it going in....so I not so sure how much his "ruthlessness" as KJ say, is really "deserved" by the team and the fans. Nobody is suffering. We vex, but we eh suffering.
Post by: Bourbon on November 26, 2012, 08:25:24 AM
ah will take that draw
Just to ice the cake..the ground coulda open up and swallow both teams..buh yeah..I could work with a draw.
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 08:18:37 AM
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 08:29:11 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 01, 2012, 08:30:09 AM
Since Chelsea sack they coach they playing more shit.
And they will be in a world of animal excrement soon. West Ham has just gone ahead 2-1.
Roman look fuh dat. He has put Rafa in an impossible situation and seems to have a short memory. Of all the managers to sign, he will sign one who has had a hostile relationship with the club in the past.
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 08:32:36 AM
Tell me why Di Matteo get fired again?
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 01, 2012, 08:33:06 AM
Chelsea are sinking deeper and deeper into it.
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 08:36:58 AM
Post by: chelsealife on December 01, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 01, 2012, 08:38:49 AM
Lol the biggest problem with this club is the owner.
Roman is trying to do his best impression of the late George Steinbrenner. A few bad results and the idiotic Russian overreacted.
As a fan of football, this is just a sad situation.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 01, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
Lol the biggest problem with this club is the owner.
Roman is trying to do his best impression of the late George Steinbrenner. A few bad results and the idiotic Russian overreacted.
As a fan of football, this is just a sad situation.
Eventually, George learned to let he ego recede (either that or old age) and leave the baseball to the baseball people. I doh get dat sense from roman. I could be and wish I were wrong, but I see him packin' up and leaving (wit he deep pockets) before allowing himself to be humbled by the errors of his ways. I wish that them same people that call themselves the Stamford Bridge faithful, dat does be so quick to boo dem players dat does really be tryin' dey bess, even if we doh "like" dem, to send roman a message and direct dat same voice of displeasure to his ass, too. Ryan does come on here and be braggin' hard, hard, hard 'bout how dey boo dis one and dat one.....Ryan, allyuh boo roman yet?
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 01, 2012, 04:47:36 PM
West Ham were brilliant. Carlton Cole was a beast in d second half. As was Diame, well done west ham
Yuh eh lie yuh know and Cole is more than happy wit he inconsistent, up and down self, to have an "up" game against Chelsea.... 3 simple defensive errors, 3 simple goals. rough times are ahead!
Post by: giggsy11 on December 01, 2012, 05:02:24 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on December 01, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Lol the biggest problem with this club is the owner.
Roman is trying to do his best impression of the late George Steinbrenner. A few bad results and the idiotic Russian overreacted.
As a fan of football, this is just a sad situation.
Eventually, George learned to let he ego recede (either that or old age) and leave the baseball to the baseball people. I doh get dat sense from roman. I could be and wish I were wrong, but I see him packin' up and leaving (wit he deep pockets) before allowing himself to be humbled by the errors of his ways. I wish that them same people that call themselves the Stamford Bridge faithful, dat does be so quick to boo dem players dat does really be tryin' dey bess, even if we doh "like" dem, to send roman a message and direct dat same voice of displeasure to his ass, too. Ryan does come on here and be braggin' hard, hard, hard 'bout how dey boo dis one and dat one.....Ryan, allyuh boo roman yet?
Roman say Chelski his he hobbie/toy.
Post by: Toppa on December 02, 2012, 07:18:23 PM
Post by: kev on December 03, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
Lol the biggest problem with this club is the owner.
I am sure I read somewhere recently he has spent £78,000,000 per year since he took over. More than 5 times the amount most clubs spend per year. Chelsea were really a no mark club before his money and will revert after.
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 03, 2012, 01:30:54 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/67786_517602194946668_90474823_n.png)
Nice one (Sorry Chelsea fans).
;D
Post by: D.H.W on December 03, 2012, 01:49:41 PM
Lol the biggest problem with this club is the owner.
I am sure I read somewhere recently he has spent £78,000,000 per year since he took over. More than 5 times the amount most clubs spend per year. Chelsea were really a no mark club before his money and will revert after.
exactly
Post by: Bakes on December 03, 2012, 02:02:07 PM
I am sure I read somewhere recently he has spent £78,000,000 per year since he took over. More than 5 times the amount most clubs spend per year. Chelsea were really a no mark club before his money and will revert after.
I likened the club to Leeds and said the same thing on this website years ago and was argued into the ground by the diehards.
Post by: D.H.W on December 03, 2012, 02:04:07 PM
Post by: Toppa on December 03, 2012, 02:06:06 PM
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Post by: giggsy11 on December 03, 2012, 02:18:35 PM
Post by: lefty on December 03, 2012, 03:34:13 PM
Post by: mukumsplau on December 05, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Post by: chelsealife on December 05, 2012, 04:06:37 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/11bu1og.png)Ummm whats ur point here??? He did sign for the champion's league winner. New champions haven't been crowned yet ???
Post by: elan on December 05, 2012, 04:19:04 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/11bu1og.png)Ummm whats ur point here??? He did sign for the champion's league winner. New champions haven't been crowned yet ???
He's showing he following the best team and best players on Twitter.
Post by: chelsealife on December 05, 2012, 04:22:24 PM
Hadda be cuz to go back to look for this from since May 28th means he either really bored or in love with Chelsea and Hazard :D(http://i50.tinypic.com/11bu1og.png)Ummm whats ur point here??? He did sign for the champion's league winner. New champions haven't been crowned yet ???
He's showing he following the best team and best players on Twitter.
Post by: mukumsplau on December 05, 2012, 04:23:50 PM
Hadda be cuz to go back to look for this from since May 28th means he either really bored or in love with Chelsea and Hazard :D(http://i50.tinypic.com/11bu1og.png)Ummm whats ur point here??? He did sign for the champion's league winner. New champions haven't been crowned yet ???
He's showing he following the best team and best players on Twitter.
HA! yuh wish..it was making the rounds on social media
shit club.
Post by: chelsealife on December 05, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
So u say, and the shit club never literally bought league matches and refs. We actually won games. ;DHadda be cuz to go back to look for this from since May 28th means he either really bored or in love with Chelsea and Hazard :D(http://i50.tinypic.com/11bu1og.png)Ummm whats ur point here??? He did sign for the champion's league winner. New champions haven't been crowned yet ???
He's showing he following the best team and best players on Twitter.
HA! yuh wish..it was making the rounds on social media
shit club :bs:.
Post by: Raul on December 05, 2012, 05:46:14 PM
hahaha Chelsea fans...
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What's "hieght"?
Post by: D.H.W on December 05, 2012, 05:56:05 PM
Post by: Observer on December 05, 2012, 06:10:23 PM
Amazing that Chelski fans using Rafa as a scapegoat, when the blame should lay squarely on the shoulders of the owner
Post by: palos on December 05, 2012, 07:32:50 PM
Dem and dey fans have some serious salt to suck fuh years to come.
Post by: Dumplingdinho on December 05, 2012, 08:50:52 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 05, 2012, 08:53:18 PM
Post by: elan on December 05, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
Seriously not Rafa fault. After all he won his CL game and won it big. The truth is Chelski was in this position before Rafa.
Amazing that Chelski fans using Rafa as a scapegoat, when the blame should lay squarely on the shoulders of the owner
Who using Rafa as a scapegoat? We play/ing crap. We do not want Rafa as manager plain and simple.
Post by: triniairman on December 05, 2012, 10:28:59 PM
Seriously not Rafa fault. After all he won his CL game and won it big. The truth is Chelski was in this position before Rafa.
Amazing that Chelski fans using Rafa as a scapegoat, when the blame should lay squarely on the shoulders of the owner
Europa league? Karma is a bitch eh.I remember ah certain man was throwing that n our face last season....Like you said. Karma is a BITCH!!! HAHAHAHA
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 05, 2012, 11:46:38 PM
Post by: injunchile on December 06, 2012, 07:26:25 AM
Post by: chelsealife on December 06, 2012, 07:34:12 AM
Despite being out of the Champions league, I really liked the brand on display yesterday and the passion of the players. There are trophies to be won. I hope they keep Moses in the starting lineup.Next should be Marin getting his chance but Moses is quite a player
Post by: D.H.W on December 06, 2012, 07:38:23 AM
Seriously not Rafa fault. After all he won his CL game and won it big. The truth is Chelski was in this position before Rafa.
Amazing that Chelski fans using Rafa as a scapegoat, when the blame should lay squarely on the shoulders of the ownerEuropa league? Karma is a bitch eh.I remember ah certain man was throwing that n our face last season....Like you said. Karma is a BITCH!!! HAHAHAHA
he quiet like church mouse now
Post by: dinho on December 06, 2012, 08:12:13 AM
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2012, 10:01:53 AM
Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Dinho why most man pelting some cuff, is because after the opening game some Chelski supporters come on the site saying "Juventus is one shit side & SerieA dis and dat." They talk they talk and now look what happen. No consideration for the fact that Italian teams always struggle with the opening of CL, because the SerieA season sometimes has not even started, or their teams play one league game.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 06, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Dinho why most man pelting some cuff, is because after the opening game some Chelski supporters come on the site saying "Juventus is one shit side & SerieA dis and dat." They talk they talk and now look what happen. No consideration for the fact that Italian teams always struggle with the opening of CL, because the SerieA season sometimes has not even started, or their teams play one league game.
is "some" Chelsea fans yuh say dey dat call Juventus a shit side, Observer?! I seem to really only recall ONE.....but I will stand correckted if yuh correck meh.
Post by: D.H.W on December 06, 2012, 10:17:41 AM
Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
go back in hole nah :devil:
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2012, 10:17:46 AM
Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Dinho why most man pelting some cuff, is because after the opening game some Chelski supporters come on the site saying "Juventus is one shit side & SerieA dis and dat." They talk they talk and now look what happen. No consideration for the fact that Italian teams always struggle with the opening of CL, because the SerieA season sometimes has not even started, or their teams play one league game.
is "some" Chelsea fans yuh say dey dat call Juventus a shit side, Observer?! I seem to really only recall ONE.....but I will stand correckted if yuh correck meh.
Chow I really did not go through all the threads, I just going off memory. So if you say is one, then is one. Then again you have to expect rival fans will always buss some picong on a day like yesterday.
Post by: triniairman on December 06, 2012, 10:22:59 AM
Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.Benfica and Basle was a strong team for our B side that Fergie play the ass with last season ;D...What yuh should do now is free up your Thursdays for Europa Thursday games. It's a respectable competition that you should not be ashamed off. ;D
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 06, 2012, 10:27:48 AM
Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Dinho why most man pelting some cuff, is because after the opening game some Chelski supporters come on the site saying "Juventus is one shit side & SerieA dis and dat." They talk they talk and now look what happen. No consideration for the fact that Italian teams always struggle with the opening of CL, because the SerieA season sometimes has not even started, or their teams play one league game.
is "some" Chelsea fans yuh say dey dat call Juventus a shit side, Observer?! I seem to really only recall ONE.....but I will stand correckted if yuh correck meh.
Chow I really did not go through all the threads, I just going off memory. So if you say is one, then is one. Then again you have to expect rival fans will always buss some picong on a day like yesterday.
I agree, we go talk we shit.....but oh gawsh man! Make sure yuh get yuh numbers right when yuh levellin' dem outrageous accusations nuh? I eh want de ress ah Chelsea fans to be gettin' no bad name of ah....one or two....bad apples. Nex' ting, people go start comparin' we to de manu and liverpool fans it have on here. :devil: :rotfl:
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 06, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl: We go take dat in we pweffen!Why are Man U fans even talking here? Their trophyless team couldn't even qualify from a much weaker CL group last year. We couldn't hear them all last year and now they find a voice lol.Benfica and Basle was a strong team for our B side that Fergie play the ass with last season ;D...What yuh should do now is free up your Thursdays for Europa Thursday games. It's a respectable competition that you should not be ashamed off. ;D
As Mango Chow said, the killer was that 2nd goal conceded in the game against Juventus (gawd boy Obi Mikel yuh kill we), because this was always going to be a difficult group. Shaktar Donetsk is playing world class football and then there is Juventus.
The sourness with this group is that there was a tap up side in the Nords, so it was a straight 3 way fight. 10 pts is normally enough to qualify from a CL group but not this rounds.
I not shame.
I would be more ashamed if we couldn't qualify from a CL group that included Benfica, Basle and Otalelul Gulati. That is pathetic.
Post by: D.H.W on December 06, 2012, 10:36:55 AM
What yuh should do now is free up your Thursdays for Europa Thursday games. It's a respectable competition that you should not be ashamed off. ;D
:rotfl:
Post by: mukumsplau on December 06, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
Post by: kev on December 06, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
John Mikel Obi banned for Mark Clattenburg threats
Chelsea's John Mikel Obi has been given a three-match ban and fined £60,000 by the Football Association for threatening referee Mark Clattenburg.
Mikel admitted an FA charge following an incident in the match officials' changing room after Chelsea's defeat by Manchester United on 28 October.
The FA accepted the player had believed the referee had racially abused him.
"But for that factor the suspension would have been significantly longer," the FA said in a statement.
In a personal hearing on Thursday the FA's Independent Regulatory Commission also accepted the Nigerian midfielder's explanation.
The FA has investigated the allegation against Clattenburg and found that there was no case for him to answer.
The police also dropped their own inquiry into the allegations that Clattenburg had racially abused Mikel, 25.
Mikel's team-mate Ramires had made the allegation and Chelsea later said they regretted the way the matter was handled.
Clattenburg missed four weekends of Premier League matches while the FA investigated Chelsea's complaint.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 07, 2012, 04:14:20 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20631964John Mikel Obi banned for Mark Clattenburg threats
Chelsea's John Mikel Obi has been given a three-match ban and fined £60,000 by the Football Association for threatening referee Mark Clattenburg.
Mikel admitted an FA charge following an incident in the match officials' changing room after Chelsea's defeat by Manchester United on 28 October.
The FA accepted the player had believed the referee had racially abused him.
"But for that factor the suspension would have been significantly longer," the FA said in a statement.
In a personal hearing on Thursday the FA's Independent Regulatory Commission also accepted the Nigerian midfielder's explanation.
The FA has investigated the allegation against Clattenburg and found that there was no case for him to answer.
The police also dropped their own inquiry into the allegations that Clattenburg had racially abused Mikel, 25.
Mikel's team-mate Ramires had made the allegation and Chelsea later said they regretted the way the matter was handled.
Clattenburg missed four weekends of Premier League matches while the FA investigated Chelsea's complaint.
If ah was Ramires ah payin' dat fine. :) Ah woulda even step up and take de 3 games meh self but it too late fuh dat now. He should at least pay de fine.
Post by: elan on December 07, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20631964John Mikel Obi banned for Mark Clattenburg threats
Chelsea's John Mikel Obi has been given a three-match ban and fined £60,000 by the Football Association for threatening referee Mark Clattenburg.
Mikel admitted an FA charge following an incident in the match officials' changing room after Chelsea's defeat by Manchester United on 28 October.
The FA accepted the player had believed the referee had racially abused him.
"But for that factor the suspension would have been significantly longer," the FA said in a statement.
In a personal hearing on Thursday the FA's Independent Regulatory Commission also accepted the Nigerian midfielder's explanation.
The FA has investigated the allegation against Clattenburg and found that there was no case for him to answer.
The police also dropped their own inquiry into the allegations that Clattenburg had racially abused Mikel, 25.
Mikel's team-mate Ramires had made the allegation and Chelsea later said they regretted the way the matter was handled.
Clattenburg missed four weekends of Premier League matches while the FA investigated Chelsea's complaint.
These are the same people who fight for Rooney after he violently attack a player ??? :bs:
Post by: Bakes on December 07, 2012, 12:24:56 PM
These are the same people who fight for Rooney after he violently attack a player ??? :bs:
Actually it isn't... but that's beside the point. What are they supposed to do with a player who admits to threatening a ref?
Post by: elan on December 07, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
These are the same people who fight for Rooney after he violently attack a player ??? :bs:
Actually it isn't... but that's beside the point. What are they supposed to do with a player who admits to threatening a ref?
The FA and The FA are different people? From all reading it's the FA that handled both matter. Could be wrong.
Post by: Bakes on December 07, 2012, 11:32:11 PM
These are the same people who fight for Rooney after he violently attack a player ??? :bs:
Actually it isn't... but that's beside the point. What are they supposed to do with a player who admits to threatening a ref?
The FA and The FA are different people? From all reading it's the FA that handled both matter. Could be wrong.
Yeah, yuh wrong... was the Independent Regulatory Commission that reviewed Obi Mikel's conduct and made the finding. The FA just administered the penalty.
Post by: Big Magician on December 08, 2012, 12:52:59 AM
Post by: Blue on December 08, 2012, 03:17:01 AM
Didier Drogba's £800,000 gift to former Chelsea team-mates
Ivory Coast striker gives out commemorative rings at dinner for players he won Champions League with
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/didier-drogbas-800000-gift-to-former-chelsea-teammates-8390608.html
Didier Drogba tonight went to the extraordinary length of presenting his Chelsea team-mates from last season’s Champions League final victory with individual rings to commemorate the triumph – at what is thought to be a cost of around £800,000 to the player.
Drogba hosted a dinner for the players as well as staff who won the trophy – although the recently sacked manager Roberto Di Matteo was unable to attend – and presented them with the rings as a surprise. The timing of the dinner came just 24 hours after the last games in this year's Champions League group stage, beyond which Chelsea failed to progress in the competition for the first time.
Fernando Torres was one of a group of players who played last season not present at the event at Wyndham Grand Chelsea Harbour, a hotel in London, including Petr Cech and Juan Mata. The team have another game tomorrow against Sunderland, and travel today.
"I wanted to give something to the team so we can all look back and remember that achievement," said Drogba, before singling out John Terry, in attendance, for special praise. "You're my hero and everyone at Chelsea loves you," he added.
Drogba has returned to London after the end of the Chinese Super League and is expected to train with Chelsea over the winter to keep in shape for the African Nations Cup in next month, when he will captain Ivory Coast.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01633/ring_1633681a.jpg)
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Post by: injunchile on December 08, 2012, 01:17:36 PM
Post by: elan on December 08, 2012, 01:45:17 PM
These are the same people who fight for Rooney after he violently attack a player ??? :bs:
Actually it isn't... but that's beside the point. What are they supposed to do with a player who admits to threatening a ref?
The FA and The FA are different people? From all reading it's the FA that handled both matter. Could be wrong.
Yeah, yuh wrong... was the Independent Regulatory Commission that reviewed Obi Mikel's conduct and made the finding. The FA just administered the penalty.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You had me thinking I going crazy. :rotfl: :rotfl: I knew I knew what I was talking about.
Post by: elan on December 13, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
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Darren Walsh/Chelsea/AP ImagesAgainst Monterrey in the Club World Cup, David Luiz acquitted himself quite well in central midfield.
Apart from center forward, Chelsea have looked most undermanned in central midfield this year, particularly after Oriol Romeu's season-ending injury last week. Inevitably, this prompted speculation that Roman Abramovich would be spending again to bolster the middle of the park this January. But maybe Chelsea can find their solution in-house.
We've pretty much heard it since he landed in the Premier League, back in January 2011. Wouldn't David Luiz be better in central midfield?
You could see the logic behind it. His combination of size, athleticism, energy and technique on the ball meant you wanted to find a place for him in the lineup. At the same time, a few major positional blunders left some wondering whether he was really cut out to be a week-in, week-out centre half.
Gary Neville famously said he played as if he was “controlled by a 10-year-old in the crowd on a PlayStation.” Andre Villas-Boas, boss No. 2 of the four David Luiz has had at Stamford Bridge, famously said it was a “stupid” and “ridiculous” thing to say, but there were times when you could see where Neville was coming from.
So, the thinking went, in midfield you could still have his energy, presence and passing, and the odd mistake wouldn't be as damaging as if he was the last man in front of Petr Cech. Yet it took a long time for this to come to fruition.
Carlo Ancelotti's Chelsea played 4-3-3 and could already call upon John Obi Mikel, Frank Lampard, Ramires and Michael Essien in the middle of the park. You can see why he wasn't tempted. Neither was Villas-Boas -- who made a point of adding to the number of central midfielders by picking up Romeu and Raul Meireles -- or his successor, Roberto Di Matteo.
But now, against Monterrey in the FIFA Club World Cup, Rafa Benitez finally pulled the trigger. Luiz lined up alongside Mikel in the 4-2-3-1, with the usual trio of attacking midfielders -- Oscar, Juan Mata and Eden Hazard -- ahead of him.
Benitez's hand was forced somewhat. He only has four central midfielders and one of them, Romeu, saw his season end with a cruciate injury last weekend. Lampard is 34 and just coming back from injury himself. Ramires has been running himself into the ground recently; he deserved a day off. In that sense, this was the perfect scenario for the switch.
Without any disrespect to Monterrey, the slower pace of their football offered a good chance for Luiz to ease himself into this new role. And he still had Ramires and Lampard to come in off the bench should things go horribly wrong.
Luiz did well. His size and strength, coupled with his ability to run with the ball, created a mismatch when he came forward. And when he won possession -- unlike Ramires and Mikel, who tend to look short -- he wasn't shy about going vertical, with accurate balls into space.
On the flip side, he did give the ball away more than the guys who usually play there, possibly because he took more risks. And there were times when he was caught out of position which, against Monterrey, wasn't much of an issue but, against tougher opponents who play at a higher pace, it could be.
Still, you can't help but feel that it's an experiment worth repeating. This doesn't mean that Chelsea's three previous managers got it wrong in not lining him up in midfield. The reality is that Luiz in midfield didn't quite fit the way they played or there were better options at the time. Ancelotti's 4-3-3 had a younger version of Lampard breaking from the middle of the park. Villas-Boas played a high defensive line and required midfielders who pressed as a group. Di Matteo did switch to a 4-2-3-1 but he had enough on his plate last year in simply stopping Chelsea from sinking and, this season, was looking to introduce the kind of short passing game Abramovich supposedly craved.
But Benitez looks to be doing his own thing. Rather than some kind of samizdat Barcelona, his priority -- apart from results -- seems to be getting the best out of Fernando Torres. And that means mixing it up with the kind of service Torres needs: balls into space. It's not a coincidence that, when Torres performed at his best, he had guys like Steven Gerrard and Xabi Alonso offering him that very service from midfield.
This is not to say that Luiz is as good a passer as Gerrard and Alonso. But he does have the long, searching pass in his skill set, certainly more so than Ramires and Mikel. And in Benitez's system, it simply makes more sense. If it works out, it also gives Chelsea the option of stiffening up the attacking midfield by moving Ramires into that area, the way Di Matteo did so effectively last year. The other bonus is that it gives Chelsea another big body on set pieces. Along with whichever two play centre half, the Blues would now have three legitimate aerial threats in the lineup, which is something they haven't had since last year, when Didier Drogba played up front.
But let's not get carried away. In games in which Chelsea are going to be on the back foot, you wonder whether Luiz has the tactical sense and ability to read the game in the center of midfield to make it work. Because that's also something Benitez values, as he showed at Liverpool, when he assembled the Javier Mascherano-Alonso partnership to protect the back four.
Right now, it's something worth revisiting and nothing more. But if it works out, it could mean that Benitez -- supposedly signed in part to get the best out of Torres -- could also benefit Luiz, the other man Chelsea signed in that wild $110 million spending spree two Januarys ago.
Post by: lefty on December 13, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
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Gary Neville famously said he played as if he was “controlled by a 10-year-old in the crowd on a PlayStation.”
LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ;D dat does look so true sometimes eh......
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
QuoteGary Neville famously said he played as if he was “controlled by a 10-year-old in the crowd on a PlayStation.”
LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ;D dat does look so true sometimes eh......
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: Blue on December 13, 2012, 02:24:40 PM
Q? - Has Benitez started the Torres revival.
No. All his recent goals have come against dreadful teams.
Torres problem isn't just that he doesn't score, it is that he doesn't even get in goalscoring positions, let alone shoot. When he begins to do that against big teams then we could talk about revival.
Good job by Benitez forcing him to take the penalty against Sunderland though (despite him saying it was the players' choice...bull$h!t)...it's time Torres started manning up.
Post by: D.H.W on December 16, 2012, 06:17:21 AM
Post by: Observer on December 16, 2012, 06:27:56 AM
Alyuh enjoying the samba this morning?
Chelsea played well first half, but run into a wall of a goalkeeper. Second half Chelsea were a mess and could not contain Corinthians team speed. Congrats to the Brasilians. Abramovic take wood :flamethrower:
Post by: lefty on December 16, 2012, 06:31:55 AM
Alyuh enjoying the samba this morning?let it happen, roman too unreasonable
Post by: Jah Gol on December 16, 2012, 07:12:14 AM
0:40 Feel rude
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 16, 2012, 08:12:41 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on December 16, 2012, 10:54:00 AM
Post by: D.H.W on December 16, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
Midnite about tuh strike on this shite side! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/tfslY_AvhLw
Post by: Bitter on December 23, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Bull dem Chelsea!
Post by: Bakes on December 23, 2012, 12:00:34 PM
Liverpool collect 3 from this side?
Bull dem Chelsea!
...and allyuh couldn't score on de same Fullham who collect 4 from we yesterday, not sure what either of that says.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 23, 2012, 12:08:33 PM
Liverpool collect 3 from this side?
Bull dem Chelsea!
...and allyuh couldn't score on de same Fullham who collect 4 from we yesterday, not sure what either of that says.
Shut to f**k up, allyuh colleck tree from a shit side, daiz he point.....and is a good one, too.
side note: Aston Villa is a side does normally gih we lil' trouble, especially when they play wit some physicality....today just wasn't their day. Brad Guzan ah feel, coulda do better on Luiz free-kick but otherwise he was fckn brilliant in a rel badly-looking team losing effort.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 23, 2012, 12:32:10 PM
Midnite about tuh strike on this shite side! ;D
After this morning, it startin' to look more like allyuh side is de ones with a clock tickin' in allyuh head. :o
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 23, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 23, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
If Chelsea keeps this up, perhaps all will be forgiven for Rafa?
Stueps, let him lose a few and he will be the next manager out
Post by: pecan on January 02, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
So what going on with Frank Lampard and his contract with Chelsea?
http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/12/30/frank-lampards-brace-keeps-chelsea-alive-in-english-premier-league-title-race/
Dec 30, 2012
LIVERPOOL, England — Frank Lampard proved his enduring worth to Chelsea by scoring twice in a hard-fought 2-1 win at Everton on Sunday, keeping his team on the fringes of the Premier League title race.
Having fallen behind to Steven Pienaar’s goal after just 63 seconds, Chelsea had the 34-year-old Lampard to thank for securing a fourth straight win to maintain the momentum under interim manager Rafa Benitez.
The England midfielder, who has yet to be offered an extension to a contract that expires in June, headed in a 42nd-minute equalizer from Ramires’ cross and grabbed the winner in the 72nd by turning the ball high into the net from close range after Juan Mata’s shot was saved by goalkeeper Tim Howard.
The double will undoubtedly increase speculation about the future of Lampard, a mainstay at Chelsea since joining the London club in 2001. Injury has restricted him to 11 league appearances this season, but Chelsea hasn’t lost any of them and he has now scored six times.
“I know there is a lot of speculation and talk but I just want to continue playing,” said Lampard, one of the most prolific midfielders in Premier League history. “I will always have Chelsea in me for life.”
Post by: lefty on January 02, 2013, 02:36:48 PM
Post by: Andre on January 02, 2013, 03:13:18 PM
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Post by: D.H.W on January 02, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: FF on January 02, 2013, 03:50:57 PM
Harry so good or is Mark Hughes so much sh!t... i think Hughes is a hound
Post by: elan on January 02, 2013, 09:03:07 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 03, 2013, 05:50:45 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on January 03, 2013, 06:15:43 PM
Post by: Deeks on January 03, 2013, 06:49:30 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 03, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
That is the nature of pro-football. You know how I felt when Clive Burnett left Malvern for Colts. Or when Ken Ramdoo and Lenny Alfonso left Essex for Malvern. We "played for the love of the game". What about when all them guys leave they clubs to join Police, Fires and DF.
I agree and totally accept that, but SWP, to me, was different. He didn't leave Chelsea as much as he was forced to leave. The man was ridin' high and playing very well in the league when we acquired him from mancity and then Jose decide to marginalize the man to being a bits-and-pieces player. To this day, Chelsea still looking for our wing backs to provide attacking width ( a tactic that Ivanovic has fallen madly and, quite often, foolishly in love with) after we totally turn our backs on players that can truly provide that width we looking for.....one of the things that totally confuses me about my side.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 04, 2013, 07:33:40 AM
That is the nature of pro-football. You know how I felt when Clive Burnett left Malvern for Colts. Or when Ken Ramdoo and Lenny Alfonso left Essex for Malvern. We "played for the love of the game". What about when all them guys leave they clubs to join Police, Fires and DF.
I agree and totally accept that, but SWP, to me, was different. He didn't leave Chelsea as much as he was forced to leave. The man was ridin' high and playing very well in the league when we acquired him from mancity and then Jose decide to marginalize the man to being a bits-and-pieces player. To this day, Chelsea still looking for our wing backs to provide attacking width ( a tactic that Ivanovic has fallen madly and, quite often, foolishly in love with) after we totally turn our backs on players that can truly provide that width we looking for.....one of the things that totally confuses me about my side.
At the time Chelski bought SWp they didn't need him and he was a "luxury buy" in order to keep him out of the hands of other teams who were showing interest. Hence the reason he ate bench. If you remembered they buying players left an right because they could affor to and also as a way to kep players away from competing teams. SWP ran for the money and he got what he deserved-if I remembered at that time one of the teams who was chasing him may have been Arsenal or even Spurs. Same reason a Scott Sinclair eating bench at Citeh.
Post by: Bitter on January 05, 2013, 09:14:52 AM
Already up front ahead of Torres.
Edit: cup-tied for Capital One Cup and the Europa League.
Post by: lefty on January 05, 2013, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: Bakes on January 05, 2013, 04:35:47 PM
it seems we finally get back somebody dat know bout positionin and can get physical when needed ....good......leah we see if 1) Ba will keep it up, and 2) if torres will rise to d occasion.....or be discarded as a failed experiment...........
Ba is quality... been that way from the first time I saw him at West Ham about two years ago. I think his inconsistency this year has been a function of the rise of Cisse, and him being unsettled.
Post by: Blue on January 05, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
it seems we finally get back somebody dat know bout positionin and can get physical when needed ....good......leah we see if 1) Ba will keep it up, and 2) if torres will rise to d occasion.....or be discarded as a failed experiment...........
Ba is quality... been that way from the first time I saw him at West Ham about two years ago. I think his inconsistency this year has been a function of the rise of Cisse, and him being unsettled.
To me he was never inconsistent...he just wasnt being played at centre forward for the first half of 2012 when Cisse arrived. He has always scored goals as a centre forward. I've always been impressed by him too, since his West Ham days (ironically the first time I saw him live was the day Torres finally scored his first goal for Chelsea). Thank god we have a proper striker now, if Ba stays fit and Benitez is brave enough to bench Torres, this team will rip up.
Post by: lefty on January 05, 2013, 04:54:41 PM
it seems we finally get back somebody dat know bout positionin and can get physical when needed ....good......leah we see if 1) Ba will keep it up, and 2) if torres will rise to d occasion.....or be discarded as a failed experiment...........
Ba is quality... been that way from the first time I saw him at West Ham about two years ago. I think his inconsistency this year has been a function of the rise of Cisse, and him being unsettled.
I read he has knee issues sometimes............still it will be good to have a physical threat up top again..........steups, it will be good to have a threat full stop...........I hope this is the end of having to watch Torres not being in striking positions again.....either by force....or exclusion....which ever comes first...........but den he didn't raise his game when drogba force him out of first string last yr so............
Post by: doc on January 09, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Post by: Deeks on January 09, 2013, 05:22:41 PM
Post by: lefty on January 09, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
A crisis? :o
the defensive errors and rafa still tryin to sqeeze gold out of $50m worth of sand stone luckily he have a second chance.............this time steups
Post by: D.H.W on January 09, 2013, 05:39:07 PM
Post by: Blue on January 10, 2013, 01:38:57 AM
And as for Benitez.....if he thought the fans would eventually accept him, he must have realised by now that it isn't going to happen any time soon. Deafening chants for Di Matteo last night. We dominated the game but there was absolutely no excuse for not bringing on Ba earlier, the decision to leave Torres on had the crowd livid.
Post by: lefty on January 10, 2013, 05:20:41 AM
The only positive to take from last night was that, for the first time in his useless Chelsea career, Torres was booed off. Perhaps he'll take the hint, there's still 20+ days left in this transfer window.
it still amazes me that people including the russian thought torres was a good buy...........bought him...no glory(him in isolation)......bought a team to supposedly fit him.....no glory......bought coach to supposedly fit him.........no glory. maybe because I am a drogba and chelsea war machine(we not dat anymore) fan, I biased, but I knew it was doomed to fail...I just knew :( ..........ah mean he was in obvious decline at liverpool....so seriously..............a fan on a chelsea forum joked that roman just like staring at torres' arse and needed to get his fix................hmmmmmmm alyuh tink ??? ??? ??? :thinking: :thinking: ..............
Post by: Bakes on January 10, 2013, 02:36:48 PM
The only positive to take from last night was that, for the first time in his useless Chelsea career, Torres was booed off. Perhaps he'll take the hint, there's still 20+ days left in this transfer window.
it still amazes me that people including the russian thought torres was a good buy...........bought him...no glory(him in isolation)......bought a team to supposedly fit him.....no glory......bought coach to supposedly fit him.........no glory. maybe because I am a drogba and chelsea war machine(we not dat anymore) fan, I biased, but I knew it was doomed to fail...I just knew :( ..........ah mean he was in obvious decline at liverpool....so seriously..............a fan on a chelsea forum joked that roman just like staring at torres' arse and needed to get his fix................hmmmmmmm alyuh tink ??? ??? ??? :thinking: :thinking: ..............
I tempted to go pull some of the posts from back then lol. I remember a woman cussing me and telling me I have all kinda tabanca over Torres LOL Liverpool have to live with setting the transfer record for an English player when they grossly overspend on Carroll... but in the end is Abramovich money that end up in Newcastle coffers, and we even convince West Ham to chip in ah portion too ;D
Post by: lefty on January 10, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
The only positive to take from last night was that, for the first time in his useless Chelsea career, Torres was booed off. Perhaps he'll take the hint, there's still 20+ days left in this transfer window.
it still amazes me that people including the russian thought torres was a good buy...........bought him...no glory(him in isolation)......bought a team to supposedly fit him.....no glory......bought coach to supposedly fit him.........no glory. maybe because I am a drogba and chelsea war machine(we not dat anymore) fan, I biased, but I knew it was doomed to fail...I just knew :( ..........ah mean he was in obvious decline at liverpool....so seriously..............a fan on a chelsea forum joked that roman just like staring at torres' arse and needed to get his fix................hmmmmmmm alyuh tink ??? ??? ??? :thinking: :thinking: ..............
I tempted to go pull some of the posts from back then lol. I remember a woman cussing me and telling me I have all kinda tabanca over Torres LOL Liverpool have to live with setting the transfer record for an English player when they grossly overspend on Carroll... but in the end is Abramovich money that end up in Newcastle coffers, and we even convince West Ham to chip in ah portion too ;D
so yuh sayin I wasn't blind den ......good for me :D, but plenty of d chelsea faithfulseemed to be............ah mean even if yuh not watchin pool game in game out, u had to know that torres was a big gamble
Post by: Bakes on January 10, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
so yuh sayin I wasn't blind den ......good for me :D, but plenty of d chelsea faithfulseemed to be............ah mean even if yuh not watchin pool game in game out, u had to know that torres was a big gamble
Nah, ability-wise Torres wasn't a gamble... the issue was his attitude. He noticeably shut it down for Liverpool and give up trying. The disillusionment started with Rafa's sacking, continued when he got hurt, then benched for the World Cup, where he was largely marginalized in favor of the better-performing, healthier Real/Barca players.
He barely bothered showing up for Liverpool after the WC, ironically the double against Chelsea in November 2010 being the one notable exception. He showed his quality on both those goals, the gather, then finish (hitting the ball into the ground as Cech rushed out) on the first, then curling it inside the far post for the second. Pure quality. But by that time he was little more than a selfish, pouting shadow of himself. Two months later he forced a move hours before the transfer window closed, handcuffing the club and causing the desperate grab for Carroll.
That is what I and most LFC fans despise him for... quitting on the team (and he admitted as much later on) then saying he was staying at the start of January only to force a transfer last minute. Just be honest, let the club take its time and set up a replacement player and be gone.
Post by: lefty on January 10, 2013, 04:20:48 PM
so yuh sayin I wasn't blind den ......good for me :D, but plenty of d chelsea faithfulseemed to be............ah mean even if yuh not watchin pool game in game out, u had to know that torres was a big gamble
Nah, ability-wise Torres wasn't a gamble... the issue was his attitude. He noticeably shut it down for Liverpool and give up trying. The disillusionment started with Rafa's sacking, continued when he got hurt, then benched for the World Cup, where he was largely marginalized in favor of the better-performing, healthier Real/Barca players.
He barely bothered showing up for Liverpool after the WC, ironically the double against Chelsea in November 2010 being the one notable exception. He showed his quality on both those goals, the gather, then finish (hitting the ball into the ground as Cech rushed out) on the first, then curling it inside the far post for the second. Pure quality. But by that time he was little more than a selfish, pouting shadow of himself. Two months later he forced a move hours before the transfer window closed, handcuffing the club and causing the desperate grab for Carroll.
That is what I and most LFC fans despise him for... quitting on the team (and he admitted as much later on) then saying he was staying at the start of January only to force a transfer last minute. Just be honest, let the club take its time and set up a replacement player and be gone.
daiz d ting ability wise.........but otherwise d man had no "spirit" none that I could see and d moment he had to use a ounce a muscle he would jus give up........I would say this too....if chelsea did play chupid an sell drogba in the january transfer window, as was rumoured back then, we wasn' even sniffin any cup success
Post by: boss on January 16, 2013, 10:30:08 AM
And as for Benitez.....if he thought the fans would eventually accept him, he must have realised by now that it isn't going to happen any time soon. Deafening chants for Di Matteo last night. We dominated the game but there was absolutely no excuse for not bringing on Ba earlier, the decision to leave Torres on had the crowd livid.
Pep just signed a 3 year contract with Bayern. I wonder what Roman's next move is (if any). :beermug:
Post by: FF on January 16, 2013, 10:39:07 AM
And as for Benitez.....if he thought the fans would eventually accept him, he must have realised by now that it isn't going to happen any time soon. Deafening chants for Di Matteo last night. We dominated the game but there was absolutely no excuse for not bringing on Ba earlier, the decision to leave Torres on had the crowd livid.
Pep just signed a 3 year contract with Bayern. I wonder what Roman's next move is (if any). :beermug:
Wait 3 more years
Post by: boss on January 16, 2013, 10:40:04 AM
Wait 3 more years
;D
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2013, 10:41:33 AM
Post by: FF on January 16, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Fook no pep for Utd. :(
Sir Alex look like he go bury Pep and all... you frighten ;D
Post by: giggsy11 on January 16, 2013, 12:55:04 PM
Post by: lefty on January 16, 2013, 01:03:51 PM
And as for Benitez.....if he thought the fans would eventually accept him, he must have realised by now that it isn't going to happen any time soon. Deafening chants for Di Matteo last night. We dominated the game but there was absolutely no excuse for not bringing on Ba earlier, the decision to leave Torres on had the crowd livid.
Pep just signed a 3 year contract with Bayern. I wonder what Roman's next move is (if any). :beermug:
dat russian will have a hell of a time trying to attract good coaches to the bridge............he jus too damn impatient and unreasonable .....what d f**k he fire di mateo for....steups what d f**k he fire ancelotti for....tell meh?!
Post by: giggsy11 on January 20, 2013, 08:10:58 AM
Post by: lefty on January 20, 2013, 09:31:04 AM
Ah notice Lampard the fraud didn't beat his Chelski badge this time after he scored. A lil bitter are we that Cole getting a contract he is not? Torres shave his head tuh look like Sheva since he has been playing like Sheva during he Chelski days.
still tryin to get gold from sand stone steups
Post by: Observer on January 20, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
Post by: asylumseeker on January 20, 2013, 07:53:03 PM
Ramirez is a machine. After all the criticism he took when he first join Chelski, now he is the engine room. he not just breaking up plays, he also creating and joining attacks, because he intercepts so many passes on the move.
Selah. The writing was ever on the wall.
Post by: Bitter on January 23, 2013, 03:25:48 PM
How yuh go kick a ballboy?
Take a Red for that!
Post by: theworm2345 on January 23, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
WDMC Hazard?Far as I'm concerned he deserved it, he was trying to waste time
How yuh go kick a ballboy?
Take a Red for that!
Post by: Bitter on January 23, 2013, 03:46:38 PM
WDMC Hazard?Far as I'm concerned he deserved it, he was trying to waste time
How yuh go kick a ballboy?
Take a Red for that!
Somebody remind me never to sweat against you. ::)
The ball-boy was being an ass, but yuh still cyah rough him up.
Post by: Bourbon on January 23, 2013, 04:05:32 PM
http://www.mixturecloud.com/media/2Szp24OE
Like this is de youthman twitter account.
https://twitter.com/CHARLIEM0RGAN
Small man badmind!
Post by: theworm2345 on January 23, 2013, 04:12:20 PM
Like this is de youthman twitter account.Should've kicked him harder
https://twitter.com/CHARLIEM0RGAN
Small man badmind!
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 23, 2013, 04:14:22 PM
Ramirez is a machine. After all the criticism he took when he first join Chelski, now he is the engine room. he not just breaking up plays, he also creating and joining attacks, because he intercepts so many passes on the move.
The criticisms were coming from people that were too impatient and too overestimating in their own abilities to recognize a footballer when they see one. To me, it was obvious from the onset that Ramires' strengths was always going to revolve around his energy and his work rate because that is what he was showing from jump. The fact that he was seeming to struggle, again, to me, was always due to him adjusting to a new club/country/environment/climate....but, as yuh say, the man is a damned machine. Sometimes I does wonder if he on drugs, he doh stop moving at all. Left up to a lot of them same critical Chelsea fans, he, Mikel and "Sideshow Bob" woulda done be run outta town arready......and Lampard would always be starting.....Left up to me, Ramires (and them other two) startin' every game!
Post by: Bourbon on January 23, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
Ramirez is a machine. After all the criticism he took when he first join Chelski, now he is the engine room. he not just breaking up plays, he also creating and joining attacks, because he intercepts so many passes on the move.
The criticisms were coming from people that were too impatient and too overestimating in their own abilities to recognize a footballer when they see one. To me, it was obvious from the onset that Ramires' strengths was always going to revolve around his energy and his work rate because that is what he was showing from jump. The fact that he was seeming to struggle, again, to me, was always due to him adjusting to a new club/country/environment/climate....but, as yuh say, the man is a damned machine. Sometimes I does wonder if he on drugs, he doh stop moving at all. Left up to a lot of them same critical Chelsea fans, he, Mikel and "Sideshow Bob" woulda done be run outta town arready......and Lampard would always be starting.....Left up to me, Ramires (and them other two) startin' every game!
I hate chelsea bad...buh...I endorse this post. I go take Ramires on my side any day.
Post by: asylumseeker on January 23, 2013, 04:31:43 PM
Ramirez is a machine. After all the criticism he took when he first join Chelski, now he is the engine room. he not just breaking up plays, he also creating and joining attacks, because he intercepts so many passes on the move.
The criticisms were coming from people that were too impatient and too overestimating in their own abilities to recognize a footballer when they see one. To me, it was obvious from the onset that Ramires' strengths was always going to revolve around his energy and his work rate because that is what he was showing from jump. The fact that he was seeming to struggle, again, to me, was always due to him adjusting to a new club/country/environment/climate....but, as yuh say, the man is a damned machine. Sometimes I does wonder if he on drugs, he doh stop moving at all. Left up to a lot of them same critical Chelsea fans, he, Mikel and "Sideshow Bob" woulda done be run outta town arready......and Lampard would always be starting.....Left up to me, Ramires (and them other two) startin' every game!
Preach!
Post by: Bakes on January 23, 2013, 05:24:58 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on January 23, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 23, 2013, 05:53:05 PM
Police investigating Hazard... according to Sky Sports News and BBC on twitter.The youth already say he ain't pressing charges.
Post by: giggsy11 on January 23, 2013, 06:06:00 PM
Post by: Bakes on January 23, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
The youth already say he ain't pressing charges.
...and this is important because?
Post by: D.H.W on January 23, 2013, 06:39:36 PM
Post by: D.H.W on January 23, 2013, 06:42:40 PM
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Post by: g on January 23, 2013, 06:48:59 PM
Storm in a teacup ting.
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 23, 2013, 07:20:55 PM
Ramirez is a machine. After all the criticism he took when he first join Chelski, now he is the engine room. he not just breaking up plays, he also creating and joining attacks, because he intercepts so many passes on the move.
The criticisms were coming from people that were too impatient and too overestimating in their own abilities to recognize a footballer when they see one. To me, it was obvious from the onset that Ramires' strengths was always going to revolve around his energy and his work rate because that is what he was showing from jump. The fact that he was seeming to struggle, again, to me, was always due to him adjusting to a new club/country/environment/climate....but, as yuh say, the man is a damned machine. Sometimes I does wonder if he on drugs, he doh stop moving at all. Left up to a lot of them same critical Chelsea fans, he, Mikel and "Sideshow Bob" woulda done be run outta town arready......and Lampard would always be starting.....Left up to me, Ramires (and them other two) startin' every game!
I hate chelsea bad...buh...I endorse this post. I go take Ramires on my side any day.
Yuh unnah-stand??!! (haters gonna hate.) ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 23, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
Post by: Fyzoman on January 24, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
quite honestly, after only now watching the incident, ain't a damned ting wrong wit de boy and eh nutting wrong with what Hazard do. He kicked (at) the ball, not the boy. Home field or not, the ball boy went too far with his antics, falling on the ball and smothering it to waste time.....he need to remember that he is only a damned ball boy, nothing more.....once he cross that line and want to assume the role of a "player" on the field, he deserve to get treated like one. I woulda step on he fingers while he want to play suarez on de ground. :devil:
Ent!!!!
I just see it fully on TV and I would be de first to say he deserve what he get, thing is he eh really get nothing, minimal contact if any.
He is just ah little cunny-hole, posting in advance on twitter and all dat.
Hazard toe-poke the ball fair and square and leave him like the little cunny-hole dat he is on de ground. Steups!!!
Post by: giggsy11 on January 27, 2013, 06:26:51 PM
Post by: elan on January 27, 2013, 10:33:32 PM
I may not like the Fat Spanish crumb dropper but it is ah shame he is being made the scape goat for Chelski's failings as a side/club. For a club with such unlimited finances they have been poorly constructed. Watching dem against Bradford today They lack depth as a squad, flexibility, to many midfielders,; most with similar skill sets, not enough forwards or wingers. The team lacks creativity when Mata is not on the pitch. Chances are DiMatteo would have encountered the same problems if he had stayed on the job. Players will get worn down.
Style of play is our biggest problem. We needed to settle down and establish a style of play early after the CL last year. We kinda started in the early part of the season, but for some reason it was abandoned - apparently. We were more fluid, and was stretching opponents nad running them over. Even the dreaded game vs Man United we had Man United in bits. But alas.....
Post by: giggsy11 on January 28, 2013, 08:52:13 AM
I may not like the Fat Spanish crumb dropper but it is ah shame he is being made the scape goat for Chelski's failings as a side/club. For a club with such unlimited finances they have been poorly constructed. Watching dem against Bradford today They lack depth as a squad, flexibility, to many midfielders,; most with similar skill sets, not enough forwards or wingers. The team lacks creativity when Mata is not on the pitch. Chances are DiMatteo would have encountered the same problems if he had stayed on the job. Players will get worn down.
Style of play is our biggest problem. We needed to settle down and establish a style of play early after the CL last year. We kinda started in the early part of the season, but for some reason it was abandoned - apparently. We were more fluid, and was stretching opponents nad running them over. Even the dreaded game vs Man United we had Man United in bits. But alas.....
But to my point, whatever style you started with would have been hard to sustain because your team lacks the depth to and consistency through out. How often can you play the same 11 that was getting results at the beginning of the season? Considering at the beginning of the season you were veying for 7 trophies, you were due to fade as a team. Why Mata can't get a rest against a team like Brentford?
Post by: lefty on January 28, 2013, 09:32:37 AM
Post by: D.H.W on February 02, 2013, 10:57:27 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 02, 2013, 11:01:42 AM
Newcastle have a good team boy. Mata goal was good eh, but Newcastle linking up was excellent
Yes they do, they bring een all dem frenchies who have gelled rather quickly and it look like they get howard webb on loan from manu, too. But not fuh de remainder of the season....jes' fuh this game. :devil:
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 02, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
No way slow and slower should be playing together in defense if Luis is healthy. WTf was Terry doing racing in tuh drop a bat on Cisse for ? He look like Luis dey!
I see the Argentinian leave him out on a counter in the first half.....looked like he was running backwards! lmao!
Post by: Bakes on February 02, 2013, 12:34:53 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 10:26:19 AM
All yuh have a few more months to sing all yuh is Champions of Europe.
Post by: boss on February 27, 2013, 05:02:51 PM
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/306894143152590849
Audio of interview here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&v=HjZpBizVA4s&nomobile=1
Post by: Blue on February 27, 2013, 05:07:32 PM
Rafa Benitez confirms he will leave Chelsea at end of the season
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/306894143152590849
Three cheers for the end of the season :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: boss on February 27, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
Rafa Benitez confirms he will leave Chelsea at end of the season
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/306894143152590849
Three cheers for the end of the season :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
I suspect you'll get your wish by tomorrow..
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 28, 2013, 08:10:34 AM
Post by: Bourbon on February 28, 2013, 10:23:26 AM
No European football....no trophies. Yuh could do it!
Post by: D.H.W on February 28, 2013, 10:50:17 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 28, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
I am no fan of rafa benitez, not by any stretch of the imagination....actually, ah cyah stand de man at all!!......but he made some valid points in his lil' post-game rant yesterday. I actually even started to think about feeling a lil' sorry fuh him and all.
He may have made some valid points, but overall, what Rafa did was extremely unwise. He has just put his entire managerial future in jeopardy with his the temper tantrum that he threw during that fateful press conference. I understand his ego took a battering when he realized he was an interim manager, but he should have realized what he was getting himself into when he agreed to sign up for the club. Di Matteo basically had one bad week and was shown the door and many fans had a high degree of loyalty to the Italian, who also represented the club as a player. Also add the fact that Rafa made some acerbic comments towards Chelsea while managing Liverpool and one can understand why his reception among the Chelsea faithful was less than warm.
Rafa has made some ill-judged utterances in the past, but this latest one takes the cake...
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 28, 2013, 11:57:30 AM
I am no fan of rafa benitez, not by any stretch of the imagination....actually, ah cyah stand de man at all!!......but he made some valid points in his lil' post-game rant yesterday. I actually even started to think about feeling a lil' sorry fuh him and all.
He may have made some valid points, but overall, what Rafa did was extremely unwise. He has just put his entire managerial future in jeopardy with his the temper tantrum that he threw during that fateful press conference. I understand his ego took a battering when he realized he was an interim manager, but he should have realized what he was getting himself into when he agreed to sign up for the club. Di Matteo basically had one bad week and was shown the door and many fans had a high degree of loyalty to the Italian, who also represented the club as a player. Also add the fact that Rafa made some acerbic comments towards Chelsea while managing Liverpool and one can understand why his reception among the Chelsea faithful was less than warm.
Rafa has made some ill-judged utterances in the past, but this latest one takes the cake...
Yeah, we are well aware of the history but I not so sure his rant was all that unwise nuh. He crazy like a fox....I DO think he is frustrated at not being able to win over the fans (and possibly the players overall) and I totally agree that he was well aware of what he was walking into so he shouldn't have even THOUGHT of gaining ground there, so overall I totally agree with you. Where I agree with what he is saying is on the issue of the fans "not supporting the team" especially this practice they have of booing players (that are doing nothing more or less than trying their best for the team) at Stamford Bridge. ESPECIALLY at Stamford Bridge. ryan always braggin' on here 'bout how dey boo dis one and dey boo dat one....especially when the Stamford Bridge faithful don't exactly have a reputation for being the most boisterous in (positive) support of their team in the first place...I could never see how that could have ever been any good for the team....I could boo joey barton anywhere....but some of the derision that a few Chelsea players have been (allegedly) subjected to at home, to me, was totally unwarranted and counterproductive.
Post by: Bakes on February 28, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
He may have made some valid points, but overall, what Rafa did was extremely unwise. He has just put his entire managerial future in jeopardy with his the temper tantrum that he threw during that fateful press conference. I understand his ego took a battering when he realized he was an interim manager, but he should have realized what he was getting himself into when he agreed to sign up for the club. Di Matteo basically had one bad week and was shown the door and many fans had a high degree of loyalty to the Italian, who also represented the club as a player. Also add the fact that Rafa made some acerbic comments towards Chelsea while managing Liverpool and one can understand why his reception among the Chelsea faithful was less than warm.
Rafa has made some ill-judged utterances in the past, but this latest one takes the cake...
Reading this I can only surmise that you didn't watch the video of the conference, because that was no "temper tantrum". He was asked questions and he responded candidly to them. I also don't see how he has "put his entire managerial future in jeopardy" for stating the obvious. This situation was created in large part by the way the club handled his appointment. If he is to be believed, he was hired for the job and only afterwards was he told it would be on an interim basis ("yes, that was a surprise to me, that someone decided afterwards that it would be 'interim' "). That sent a message to fans that he's only there as a stop-gap measure and that they didn't need to throw their full support behind him.
That aside, he was very clear in stating that his issue was with a relative minority of fans who boo the players and otherwise do things that "do no favor" to the club He never attacked the fanbase as a whole... and I struggle to think of any "acerbic" comments he's ever made about Chelsea. He had a heated rivalry with Mourinho and said things to get under his skin but I don't recall him saying anything that negative about the club and the fans.
All that said, this was always the most likeliest of results.
Post by: Blue on February 28, 2013, 03:54:14 PM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
Post by: Bourbon on February 28, 2013, 04:03:59 PM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
Right so take dat. If is dah wha yuh did want..is dat wha yuh did want.
Post by: lefty on February 28, 2013, 04:11:26 PM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
chelsea benefits from his financing, but suffers from his constant meddling and general lack of consideration for the very managers he hires........I will beat this till it dead, ancellotti and Wilkinson should still be at Chelsea and Di Matteo get a roar deal, given what he achieved with d team at his disposal, regardless of how it was done
Post by: Blue on February 28, 2013, 04:46:18 PM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
Right so take dat. If is dah wha yuh did want..is dat wha yuh did want.
To be honest, I enjoy both the trophies and the soap opera...never a dull moment. ;D
I'm already relishing d heckling fatso is gonna get on Saturday....and if the announcer only makes the mistake of mentioning his name for any reason....my word....
Post by: giggsy11 on February 28, 2013, 04:53:38 PM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
:shameonyou: United and Chelski have both won 10 trophies in that period of time. Check yuh self.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 28, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
Right so take dat. If is dah wha yuh did want..is dat wha yuh did want.
To be honest, I enjoy both the trophies and the soap opera...never a dull moment. ;D
I'm already relishing d heckling fatso is gonna get on Saturday....and if the announcer only makes the mistake of mentioning his name for any reason....my word....
And I am still wondering why you haven't yet heckled the owner since he put the "fatso" in charge? What yuh fraid he buss it? Ryan you come off as a damn waggonist, neva se come se. Yuh supported Terry and Lampard, when dey was back stabbing managers left and right but yuh booing players and managers who have tuh deal with the domino effects dey help tuh create.
Post by: Bourbon on February 28, 2013, 05:54:44 PM
Who make allyuh who allyuh is? Not Roman? So take dat!
De ingratitude woulda be worse if Rafa did win something....buh again...a lot of Chelsea fans logic doh make sense to me...so I not going and try to understand.
De man come in to do a wuk and he do it. When Torres came...all Chelsea fans was in their glee. Who he play for and all dat didnt matter then...cause allyuh thought allyuh was getting a goal machine and now quick to turn on de man cuz he a expired and damaged square peg in a round hole. Allyuh squad paper thin and old and vex with Rafa for rotating and blaming him for everything. Allyuh try to dramatically change allyuh playing style based on de whims and fancy of de man who finance allyuh being who allyuh is now....a group of fans who feel some entitlement to success just because a billionare buy allyuh.
Dis problem eh start with Rafa...and it eh go end with the season. When allyuh start showing Roman the depth of allyuh disgust...rather than some passive aggressive "is this what you want, is this what you want,roman abramovich, is this what you want" chant....den I go take allyuh seriously. In fact..when a manager getting to do what he thinks best, and get to buy and use players in the way that he thinks best rather than a conglomeration of assholes in the boardroom or on the field who refuse to be supportive unless it pleasing to dem...den allyuh might get some modicum of sympathy from me. Other than dat take what allyuh getting and cool it.
Post by: Bakes on February 28, 2013, 06:04:20 PM
Dis is why dey should ketch dey ass. Players consistently underminding the manager...not pulling their weight buh dis only started happening with Rafa? Wha bout AVB?
Who make allyuh who allyuh is? Not Roman? So take dat!
De ingratitude woulda be worse if Rafa did win something....buh again...a lot of Chelsea fans logic doh make sense to me...so I not going and try to understand.
De man come in to do a wuk and he do it. When Torres came...all Chelsea fans was in their glee. Who he play for and all dat didnt matter then...cause allyuh thought allyuh was getting a goal machine and now quick to turn on de man cuz he a expired and damaged square peg in a round hole. Allyuh squad paper thin and old and vex with Rafa for rotating and blaming him for everything. Allyuh try to dramatically change allyuh playing style based on de whims and fancy of de man who finance allyuh being who allyuh is now....a group of fans who feel some entitlement to success just because a billionare buy allyuh.
Dis problem eh start with Rafa...and it eh go end with the season. When allyuh start showing Roman the depth of allyuh disgust...rather than some passive aggressive "is this what you want, is this what you want,roman abramovich, is this what you want" chant....den I go take allyuh seriously. In fact..when a manager getting to do what he thinks best, and get to buy and use players in the way that he thinks best rather than a conglomeration of assholes in the boardroom or on the field who refuse to be supportive unless it pleasing to dem...den allyuh might get some modicum of sympathy from me. Other than dat take what allyuh getting and cool it.
Wow, lol
...but well said. And Ryan does have a plastic sheen tuh him.
Post by: D.H.W on February 28, 2013, 06:14:49 PM
Dis is why dey should ketch dey ass. Players consistently underminding the manager...not pulling their weight buh dis only started happening with Rafa? Wha bout AVB?
Who make allyuh who allyuh is? Not Roman? So take dat!
De ingratitude woulda be worse if Rafa did win something....buh again...a lot of Chelsea fans logic doh make sense to me...so I not going and try to understand.
De man come in to do a wuk and he do it. When Torres came...all Chelsea fans was in their glee. Who he play for and all dat didnt matter then...cause allyuh thought allyuh was getting a goal machine and now quick to turn on de man cuz he a expired and damaged square peg in a round hole. Allyuh squad paper thin and old and vex with Rafa for rotating and blaming him for everything. Allyuh try to dramatically change allyuh playing style based on de whims and fancy of de man who finance allyuh being who allyuh is now....a group of fans who feel some entitlement to success just because a billionare buy allyuh.
Dis problem eh start with Rafa...and it eh go end with the season. When allyuh start showing Roman the depth of allyuh disgust...rather than some passive aggressive "is this what you want, is this what you want,roman abramovich, is this what you want" chant....den I go take allyuh seriously. In fact..when a manager getting to do what he thinks best, and get to buy and use players in the way that he thinks best rather than a conglomeration of assholes in the boardroom or on the field who refuse to be supportive unless it pleasing to dem...den allyuh might get some modicum of sympathy from me. Other than dat take what allyuh getting and cool it.
Nice!
Post by: giggsy11 on February 28, 2013, 06:22:15 PM
Dis is why dey should ketch dey ass. Players consistently underminding the manager...not pulling their weight buh dis only started happening with Rafa? Wha bout AVB?
Who make allyuh who allyuh is? Not Roman? So take dat!
De ingratitude woulda be worse if Rafa did win something....buh again...a lot of Chelsea fans logic doh make sense to me...so I not going and try to understand.
De man come in to do a wuk and he do it. When Torres came...all Chelsea fans was in their glee. Who he play for and all dat didnt matter then...cause allyuh thought allyuh was getting a goal machine and now quick to turn on de man cuz he a expired and damaged square peg in a round hole. Allyuh squad paper thin and old and vex with Rafa for rotating and blaming him for everything. Allyuh try to dramatically change allyuh playing style based on de whims and fancy of de man who finance allyuh being who allyuh is now....a group of fans who feel some entitlement to success just because a billionare buy allyuh.
Dis problem eh start with Rafa...and it eh go end with the season. When allyuh start showing Roman the depth of allyuh disgust...rather than some passive aggressive "is this what you want, is this what you want,roman abramovich, is this what you want" chant....den I go take allyuh seriously. In fact..when a manager getting to do what he thinks best, and get to buy and use players in the way that he thinks best rather than a conglomeration of assholes in the boardroom or on the field who refuse to be supportive unless it pleasing to dem...den allyuh might get some modicum of sympathy from me. Other than dat take what allyuh getting and cool it.
Ah rell pullin for AVB tuh finish above dem and fuh Chelski tuh finish 5th or below. No CL tuh pull dem out of the fire this year.
Post by: Bourbon on February 28, 2013, 06:48:47 PM
Dis is why dey should ketch dey ass. Players consistently underminding the manager...not pulling their weight buh dis only started happening with Rafa? Wha bout AVB?
Who make allyuh who allyuh is? Not Roman? So take dat!
De ingratitude woulda be worse if Rafa did win something....buh again...a lot of Chelsea fans logic doh make sense to me...so I not going and try to understand.
De man come in to do a wuk and he do it. When Torres came...all Chelsea fans was in their glee. Who he play for and all dat didnt matter then...cause allyuh thought allyuh was getting a goal machine and now quick to turn on de man cuz he a expired and damaged square peg in a round hole. Allyuh squad paper thin and old and vex with Rafa for rotating and blaming him for everything. Allyuh try to dramatically change allyuh playing style based on de whims and fancy of de man who finance allyuh being who allyuh is now....a group of fans who feel some entitlement to success just because a billionare buy allyuh.
Dis problem eh start with Rafa...and it eh go end with the season. When allyuh start showing Roman the depth of allyuh disgust...rather than some passive aggressive "is this what you want, is this what you want,roman abramovich, is this what you want" chant....den I go take allyuh seriously. In fact..when a manager getting to do what he thinks best, and get to buy and use players in the way that he thinks best rather than a conglomeration of assholes in the boardroom or on the field who refuse to be supportive unless it pleasing to dem...den allyuh might get some modicum of sympathy from me. Other than dat take what allyuh getting and cool it.
Ah rell pullin for AVB tuh finish above dem and fuh Chelski tuh finish 5th or below. No CL tuh pull dem out of the fire this year.
In order how I would want it to happen based on the table as it is now:
United, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton. In fact Everton could huff Arsenal and I eh go mind too much...that position is more out of sympathy for Wenger than anything else.
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 28, 2013, 10:05:48 PM
He may have made some valid points, but overall, what Rafa did was extremely unwise. He has just put his entire managerial future in jeopardy with his the temper tantrum that he threw during that fateful press conference. I understand his ego took a battering when he realized he was an interim manager, but he should have realized what he was getting himself into when he agreed to sign up for the club. Di Matteo basically had one bad week and was shown the door and many fans had a high degree of loyalty to the Italian, who also represented the club as a player. Also add the fact that Rafa made some acerbic comments towards Chelsea while managing Liverpool and one can understand why his reception among the Chelsea faithful was less than warm.
Rafa has made some ill-judged utterances in the past, but this latest one takes the cake...
Reading this I can only surmise that you didn't watch the video of the conference, because that was no "temper tantrum". He was asked questions and he responded candidly to them. I also don't see how he has "put his entire managerial future in jeopardy" for stating the obvious. This situation was created in large part by the way the club handled his appointment. If he is to be believed, he was hired for the job and only afterwards was he told it would be on an interim basis ("yes, that was a surprise to me, that someone decided afterwards that it would be 'interim' "). That sent a message to fans that he's only there as a stop-gap measure and that they didn't need to throw their full support behind him.
That aside, he was very clear in stating that his issue was with a relative minority of fans who boo the players and otherwise do things that "do no favor" to the club He never attacked the fanbase as a whole... and I struggle to think of any "acerbic" comments he's ever made about Chelsea. He had a heated rivalry with Mourinho and said things to get under his skin but I don't recall him saying anything that negative about the club and the fans.
All that said, this was always the most likeliest of results.
Well, then your issue should be with the press accounts of his comments because it was characterized as a tirade, and I have, unwisely judging by your remarks in rebuttal, should not have relied solely on the press accounts and for that I am guilty as charged. Things have been hectic with work lately and I have not had the time to follow up on sports news of any type recently. However, I did place my trust in the integrity of the stories I read. If there was inaccurate attribution or a misreprentation of the tenor of Rafa's comments about the situation at Chelsea, then it appears much of the fault lies with the press, because it has placed Mr. Benitez in an unfavourable light.
Post by: Bakes on February 28, 2013, 10:18:25 PM
Well, then your issue should be with the press accounts of his comments because it was characterized as a tirade, and I have, unwisely judging by your remarks in rebuttal, should not have relied solely on the press accounts and for that I am guilty as charged. Things have been hectic with work lately and I have not had the time to follow up on sports news of any type recently. However, I did place my trust in the integrity of the stories I read. If there was inaccurate attribution or a misreprentation of the tenor of Rafa's comments about the situation at Chelsea, then it appears much of the fault lies with the press, because it has placed Mr. Benitez in an unfavourable light.
You know how the British press is...
http://www.youtube.com/v/BFBD2Npg2_w
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 28, 2013, 11:17:24 PM
Well, then your issue should be with the press accounts of his comments because it was characterized as a tirade, and I have, unwisely judging by your remarks in rebuttal, should not have relied solely on the press accounts and for that I am guilty as charged. Things have been hectic with work lately and I have not had the time to follow up on sports news of any type recently. However, I did place my trust in the integrity of the stories I read. If there was inaccurate attribution or a misreprentation of the tenor of Rafa's comments about the situation at Chelsea, then it appears much of the fault lies with the press, because it has placed Mr. Benitez in an unfavourable light.
You know how the British press is...
http://www.youtube.com/v/BFBD2Npg2_w
Yeah, I should know by now, how the press is period. It was laziness on my part. I should have listened to the actual clip of his conference instead of reading the distorted representations of his comments. There was nothing to suggest that his comments, albeit couched with an undercurrent of mild irritation with a small section of the Chelsea fan base, could be construed as a "tirade" or "rant".
Oh well, I eh go get ketch next time.
:beermug:
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2013, 01:38:16 AM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
Right so take dat. If is dah wha yuh did want..is dat wha yuh did want.
To be honest, I enjoy both the trophies and the soap opera...never a dull moment. ;D
I'm already relishing d heckling fatso is gonna get on Saturday....and if the announcer only makes the mistake of mentioning his name for any reason....my word....
And I am still wondering why you haven't yet heckled the owner since he put the "fatso" in charge? What yuh fraid he buss it? Ryan you come off as a damn waggonist, neva se come se. Yuh supported Terry and Lampard, when dey was back stabbing managers left and right but yuh booing players and managers who have tuh deal with the domino effects dey help tuh create.
Steups, Trinis does get too carried away wid dis waggonist talk....yuh calling me a waggonist but unless you're from Manchester then you are, by definition, a waggonist. Football is about enjoyment, try not to take it too seriously :beermug:
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2013, 03:55:43 AM
Hehe
Post by: lefty on March 01, 2013, 06:01:14 AM
All Chelsea fan is waggonist
Hehe
my ass
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2013, 07:07:45 AM
Change the owner. That's the cause of everything.He is absolutely the cause of everything. He's why we've won more trophies than any other team in England since he took over :beermug:
Right so take dat. If is dah wha yuh did want..is dat wha yuh did want.
To be honest, I enjoy both the trophies and the soap opera...never a dull moment. ;D
I'm already relishing d heckling fatso is gonna get on Saturday....and if the announcer only makes the mistake of mentioning his name for any reason....my word....
And I am still wondering why you haven't yet heckled the owner since he put the "fatso" in charge? What yuh fraid he buss it? Ryan you come off as a damn waggonist, neva se come se. Yuh supported Terry and Lampard, when dey was back stabbing managers left and right but yuh booing players and managers who have tuh deal with the domino effects dey help tuh create.
Steups, Trinis does get too carried away wid dis waggonist talk....yuh calling me a waggonist but unless you're from Manchester then you are, by definition, a waggonist. Football is about enjoyment, try not to take it too seriously :beermug:
Since football is for enjoyment your enjoyment is tuh pay money and go to the stadium and heckle the manager of your side? That is why I call yuh a waggonist. You not about supporting yuh team but about supporting negative vibes that taking yuh team down. You still aint answer why yuh still haven't heckled Roman? Because waggonist can't bite the hand that feed dem, right?
Post by: lefty on March 01, 2013, 07:49:18 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2013, 10:09:01 AM
Post by: Bitter on March 01, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
Post by: elan on March 07, 2013, 03:45:44 PM
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2013, 05:42:59 PM
Post by: lefty on March 08, 2013, 07:41:45 AM
imagine yuh move ah relatively galvanizing presence and bring ah polarising presence all in an attempt to not make yuhless not look like so much of an ass for wasting $50m.....jus write it off damn it
Post by: Blue on March 16, 2013, 01:15:08 PM
John Terry ditches £175,000 motor in traffic jam
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4844521/john-terry-bentley-traffic-jam.html#ixzz2NjQeaoX3
FED-UP John Terry dumped his Bentley in a traffic jam — and phoned a mate to sit in the £175,000 supercar until the dual carriageway cleared.
The Chelsea skipper — famously lauded by fans as “Captain, Leader, Legend” — lost patience after being stuck three miles from his Surrey mansion.
He leapt out, hopped over the central reservation and started walking home while the pal raced to babysit the motor abandoned on the A3.
Another chum phoned by the soccer idol, 32, eventually spared him from having to trek the entire way — by picking him up in his car.
A witness caught in the same tailback near Esher said yesterday: “We’d all sat there for hours. People had been getting out of cars and chatting. Then out jumped John Terry in his Chelsea training gear.
“He leapt over the barrier and b******d off — leaving his car. We were speechless.” Hundreds were left in gridlock after a man killed himself jumping off a bridge — and a motorcyclist then died smashing into a parked ambulance.
Terry was heading home to Oxshott when he ditched his silver Bentley Continental GT. The witness said: “For all he knew the road could have opened five minutes later. His car would have been blocking everyone.”
The footballer’s agent said: “John needed to get home so he called a friend to come and sit in his car.
“Another friend kindly picked him up further down the road.”
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 17, 2013, 08:14:27 AM
Captain, leader, legged it :rotfl:
John Terry ditches £175,000 motor in traffic jam
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4844521/john-terry-bentley-traffic-jam.html#ixzz2NjQeaoX3
FED-UP John Terry dumped his Bentley in a traffic jam — and phoned a mate to sit in the £175,000 supercar until the dual carriageway cleared.
The Chelsea skipper — famously lauded by fans as “Captain, Leader, Legend” — lost patience after being stuck three miles from his Surrey mansion.
He leapt out, hopped over the central reservation and started walking home while the pal raced to babysit the motor abandoned on the A3.
Another chum phoned by the soccer idol, 32, eventually spared him from having to trek the entire way — by picking him up in his car.
A witness caught in the same tailback near Esher said yesterday: “We’d all sat there for hours. People had been getting out of cars and chatting. Then out jumped John Terry in his Chelsea training gear.
“He leapt over the barrier and b******d off — leaving his car. We were speechless.” Hundreds were left in gridlock after a man killed himself jumping off a bridge — and a motorcyclist then died smashing into a parked ambulance.
Terry was heading home to Oxshott when he ditched his silver Bentley Continental GT. The witness said: “For all he knew the road could have opened five minutes later. His car would have been blocking everyone.”
The footballer’s agent said: “John needed to get home so he called a friend to come and sit in his car.
“Another friend kindly picked him up further down the road.”
??? Ryan....I eh sure what the significance or point of this article is nuh........or its posting.....spell it out fuh meh nuh? Please?
Post by: lefty on March 17, 2013, 08:24:31 AM
this..............and rafa pull ah rabbit out he ass to save d FA cup......talk bout dat nahCaptain, leader, legged it :rotfl:
John Terry ditches £175,000 motor in traffic jam
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4844521/john-terry-bentley-traffic-jam.html#ixzz2NjQeaoX3
FED-UP John Terry dumped his Bentley in a traffic jam — and phoned a mate to sit in the £175,000 supercar until the dual carriageway cleared.
The Chelsea skipper — famously lauded by fans as “Captain, Leader, Legend” — lost patience after being stuck three miles from his Surrey mansion.
He leapt out, hopped over the central reservation and started walking home while the pal raced to babysit the motor abandoned on the A3.
Another chum phoned by the soccer idol, 32, eventually spared him from having to trek the entire way — by picking him up in his car.
A witness caught in the same tailback near Esher said yesterday: “We’d all sat there for hours. People had been getting out of cars and chatting. Then out jumped John Terry in his Chelsea training gear.
“He leapt over the barrier and b******d off — leaving his car. We were speechless.” Hundreds were left in gridlock after a man killed himself jumping off a bridge — and a motorcyclist then died smashing into a parked ambulance.
Terry was heading home to Oxshott when he ditched his silver Bentley Continental GT. The witness said: “For all he knew the road could have opened five minutes later. His car would have been blocking everyone.”
The footballer’s agent said: “John needed to get home so he called a friend to come and sit in his car.
“Another friend kindly picked him up further down the road.”
??? Ryan....I eh sure what the significance or point of this article is nuh........or its posting.....spell it out fuh meh nuh? Please?
Post by: Cocorite on March 17, 2013, 11:18:44 AM
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Post by: Blue on March 19, 2013, 01:31:04 AM
The Commentator did say BABA suffering from Torres jumbie. The highpoint in this game was Eden Hazzard and the touch and go with Mata
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Post by: Mango Chow! on March 19, 2013, 08:19:14 AM
That lion need to eat some food.
Watch when yuh see he start to eat so, is only red go be drippin' from he mouth. He eatin' everyting on de table, down to dat ugly tablecloth and all.
Post by: Blue on March 23, 2013, 06:33:36 PM
Diego Simeone has refused to rule out a bid for Fernando Torres
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8592305/Diego-Simeone-has-refused-to-rule-out-a-bid-for-Fernando-Torres
Atletico Madrid coach Diego Simeone has seemingly opened the door for a possible return of Fernando Torres.
Torres has endured a torrid stay at Stamford Bridge since joining from Liverpool in January 2011 for £50million.
In 74 league games he has scored just 14 times, which is a shadow of his Liverpool form where he hit 65 goals in 102 Premier League appearances.
The 29-year-old began his career with Atletico Madrid and is still revered by their fans, and now Simeone has refused to rule out a possible return.
"Fernando Torres is currently playing for another team. We have to wait for the season to finish and decide which of the available players could come here and do a good job," Simeone told Onda Cero.
"Fernando knows about the club's history, what it means to play here and I don't need to speak about his ability.
"We were team-mates. I know how important he can be."
Simeone admits he does not know if a deal could be struck, adding: "It's complicated. I wouldn't like to say yes or no. He's a player who always performs and we have to respect his choice."
With Chelsea being strongly linked with Atletico's Radamel Falcao - a player-swap plus cash deal has long been mooted.
Simeone was also quizzed about the future of the Colombian, and said: "I'm not Falcao and I'm not his agent. I'm the manager and have the utmost respect for him, because he gave me so much at River Plate and has done the same here.
"He always gives his all and I really respect players who do that. But everyone makes their own decisions in life. Every person is different, and we have to respect each other. Those who stay are always going to be the best."
Post by: giggsy11 on March 23, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
Post by: elan on March 29, 2013, 02:30:45 PM
By Avi Creditor | Goal.com
Chelsea and Manchester City are coming back to America.
The two English Premier League powers will return to the United States after the conclusion of the current season and will face off in a friendly in the first international soccer match at St. Louis' Busch Stadium on May 23. The match comes four days after the end of the Premier League campaign, with Chelsea hosting Everton and Manchester City hosting Norwich City as both look to seal a place in next season's UEFA Champions League.
Both clubs have made it a habit to play friendlies in the United States during the offseason, with City coming stateside in 2010 and 2011.
"The summer visit to St Louis is tremendously exciting for us," City chief executive Ferran Soriano said on the club's official website. “The club’s first U.S. tour was in 2010, and we have continued to develop a close relationship with our fans in North America ever since. You will now find Manchester City soccer fields in some of the most deserving communities of New York, Miami, LA and Chicago, and loyal supporters clubs in major cities across the continent."
Chelsea, meanwhile, the opponent in last year's MLS All-Star Game, played a number of matches in America last summer in addition to doing so in 2009.
"It's an excellent opportunity for the club to be able to return to America so quickly after our successful tour there last July," Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay said on the club's official website. "The club and the players have enjoyed regularly traveling to the U.S. and also helping to create long-term growth and sustainability of soccer in the country through our super club network.
"We will face the strongest opposition in Manchester City, and I am sure we will provide a competitive and entertaining match in St Louis."
Chelsea's time in America will precede a preseason trip to Asia ahead of the 2013-14 season. It is unclear who will be managing Chelsea during the friendly in St. Louis, as Rafa Benitez' contract as interim manager is set to expire at the end of the Premier League campaign.
Post by: Bourbon on March 29, 2013, 03:16:06 PM
Chelsea, Manchester City set friendly date in St. Louis (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-manchester-city-set-friendly-185000822--sow.html)
By Avi Creditor | Goal.com
Chelsea and Manchester City are coming back to America.
The two English Premier League powers will return to the United States after the conclusion of the current season and will face off in a friendly in the first international soccer match at St. Louis' Busch Stadium on May 23. The match comes four days after the end of the Premier League campaign, with Chelsea hosting Everton and Manchester City hosting Norwich City as both look to seal a place in next season's UEFA Champions League.
Both clubs have made it a habit to play friendlies in the United States during the offseason, with City coming stateside in 2010 and 2011.
"The summer visit to St Louis is tremendously exciting for us," City chief executive Ferran Soriano said on the club's official website. “The club’s first U.S. tour was in 2010, and we have continued to develop a close relationship with our fans in North America ever since. You will now find Manchester City soccer fields in some of the most deserving communities of New York, Miami, LA and Chicago, and loyal supporters clubs in major cities across the continent."
Chelsea, meanwhile, the opponent in last year's MLS All-Star Game, played a number of matches in America last summer in addition to doing so in 2009.
"It's an excellent opportunity for the club to be able to return to America so quickly after our successful tour there last July," Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay said on the club's official website. "The club and the players have enjoyed regularly traveling to the U.S. and also helping to create long-term growth and sustainability of soccer in the country through our super club network.
"We will face the strongest opposition in Manchester City, and I am sure we will provide a competitive and entertaining match in St Louis."
Chelsea's time in America will precede a preseason trip to Asia ahead of the 2013-14 season. It is unclear who will be managing Chelsea during the friendly in St. Louis, as Rafa Benitez' contract as interim manager is set to expire at the end of the Premier League campaign.
Nice. All we need is for the ground to open up and swallow them both.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 29, 2013, 03:23:45 PM
Chelsea, Manchester City set friendly date in St. Louis (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-manchester-city-set-friendly-185000822--sow.html)
By Avi Creditor | Goal.com
Chelsea and Manchester City are coming back to America.
The two English Premier League powers will return to the United States after the conclusion of the current season and will face off in a friendly in the first international soccer match at St. Louis' Busch Stadium on May 23. The match comes four days after the end of the Premier League campaign, with Chelsea hosting Everton and Manchester City hosting Norwich City as both look to seal a place in next season's UEFA Champions League.
Both clubs have made it a habit to play friendlies in the United States during the offseason, with City coming stateside in 2010 and 2011.
"The summer visit to St Louis is tremendously exciting for us," City chief executive Ferran Soriano said on the club's official website. “The club’s first U.S. tour was in 2010, and we have continued to develop a close relationship with our fans in North America ever since. You will now find Manchester City soccer fields in some of the most deserving communities of New York, Miami, LA and Chicago, and loyal supporters clubs in major cities across the continent."
Chelsea, meanwhile, the opponent in last year's MLS All-Star Game, played a number of matches in America last summer in addition to doing so in 2009.
"It's an excellent opportunity for the club to be able to return to America so quickly after our successful tour there last July," Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay said on the club's official website. "The club and the players have enjoyed regularly traveling to the U.S. and also helping to create long-term growth and sustainability of soccer in the country through our super club network.
"We will face the strongest opposition in Manchester City, and I am sure we will provide a competitive and entertaining match in St Louis."
Chelsea's time in America will precede a preseason trip to Asia ahead of the 2013-14 season. It is unclear who will be managing Chelsea during the friendly in St. Louis, as Rafa Benitez' contract as interim manager is set to expire at the end of the Premier League campaign.
Nice. All we need is for the ground to open up and swallow them both.
:rotfl: That would be sweet!
Post by: ballpriest on March 29, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
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Post by: Bitter on April 01, 2013, 08:52:05 AM
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Post by: Mango Chow! on April 01, 2013, 09:07:48 AM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8530/8609992448_edfddb183c_o.gif) Demba f**kin BA!!!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8536/8610022536_3fe0535d14_o.gif) Petr f**kin CECH!!
tank yuh, Bitter. (I still cyah figure out how to post dem ting.) :beermug:
Post by: asylumseeker on April 01, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
08 Mar 2013 00:00 - Owen Gibson
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-03-08-00-why-abramovich-cant-buy-the-best
After a decade of hiring and firing big-name managers, Chelsea's owner may be short of applicants to replace Rafael Benitez.
Even if Rafael Benitez does limp on until May, it is becoming harder to see where Roman Abramovich goes from there. A man used to being able to secure whatever he covets is potentially running out of options. After 10 years, 10 managers and £1-billion of investment, the turbulence associated with the top job at Stamford Bridge has made a post once coveted by many of the biggest names in European football into a poisoned chalice.
By most measures it should be an attractive proposition. But even the prospect of a hefty pay packet and the lure of working with some of the best players in the world has not been enough to stop some of the names highest on his wanted list from removing themselves from the frame.
Despite the soothing mood music from Stamford Bridge, it is unwise to second guess anything in a court where the word of one man is king.
With Benitez just the latest dead man walking, the Chelsea owner is left contemplating the next phase of a ''project" that long since lost all coherence.
When Benitez was appointed, the prize of Pep Guardiola, long coveted for his marriage of style and silverware, still hovered tantalisingly within reach as the former Barcelona coach watched on from New York. Many speculated that, by ruthlessly dispatching Roberto di Matteo and highlighting the instability at the heart of the club, Abramovich had made west London an even less appealing destination for Guardiola. So it proved, as it emerged he had already pledged himself to Bayern Munich. Borussia Dortmund’s highly rated Jurgen Klopp has also said he will not be lured by the Russian’s siren call.
For the bookmakers, José Mourinho is the clear favourite and the prospect has clear appeal, not least for fans and the media. But the dramatic return of the Special One from Madrid might create as many problems as it would solve.For better or worse, Abramovich appears wedded to a backroom model that leaves people such as the technical director, Michael Emenalo, firmly in place. That would clash with a likely demand from the Portuguese for full control over football matters - the very flashpoint that ended his first successful tenure.
Mourhino knows there may be rival offers from Manchester City and Paris Saint-Germain with more control and less baggage. On the other hand, those positions are not currently vacant and he may be drawn to the idea of being able to tie up his future before the end of the season.
Light at the end of the tunnel
Contrary to external impressions, there is some continuity at Chelsea. The assistant first-team coach, Steve Holland, has worked with a succession of managers and others have been there even longer. Away from the first team, the academy director, Neil Bath, has been on the staff since well before Abramovich arrived.
The chairperson, Bruce Buck, and the chief executive, Ron Gourlay, would argue they are attempting to put in place a structure that can sustain personnel changes. But it holds little water when there is so little sense to the expensive but incoherent collection of players bequeathed to the next man to take up the reins. Clubs can survive a high turnover but only if there is a clear footballing and recruitment philosophy underpinning them. Both have been lacking at Chelsea.
Abramovich appears wedded to two paradoxical aims: to establish a structure that can withstand endless revolution, while craving the charismatic auteur who can repeat the success of Mourinho and add a swashbuckling sense of adventure to it. The Russian may argue the trophy cabinet tells its own story but the towering European triumph last May obscures diminishing returns. Of his four least successful managers, according to their win percentages, three are the most recent incumbents.
The daunting rebuilding task that was supposed to begin under André Villas-Boas has stalled. Didier Drogba is gone but not replaced and the rest of the spine of Mourinho’s team has not been adequately overhauled. Questions over Frank Lampard’s contract have proved an endless distraction and the squad lacks balance. A trio of exciting young players expensively signed to usher in a new era - Oscar, Eden Hazard and Juan Mata - has alternated between brilliance and bewilderment as chaos has swirled around them, whereas Fernando Torres increasingly resembles a lost cause.
Like other chaotic institutions, it is possible Abramovich will lurch from one extreme to the other and seek to replace Benitez with a former hero. Gianfranco Zola would certainly tick that box. But, although he has impressed at Watford, he struggled in the Premier League with West Ham.
Gus Poyet, who perhaps ranks less highly in the affections of Chelsea fans after his stint at Spurs, is untested at the highest level but has shown himself to be a progressive young manager at Brighton. Both would be tempted by what would be a huge step up; both would be huge gambles. But other highly rated young coaches - notably Swansea’s Michael Laudrup - would now surely think twice about cashing in their rising stock to take the Abramovich shilling. David Moyes, who enjoys absolute control at Everton but is endlessly frustrated by a lack of resources, is an intriguing possibility but for him the internal politics might be a deal-breaker.
Chelsea have worked their way through many of the usual suspects. But from that seam of speculation, two former Real Madrid managers - Fabio Capello and Manuel Pellegrini - might reasonably be considered. The former is in charge of Russia but has recently made noises about wanting to return to England. Pellegrini’s agent said this week that the Chilean coach of Malaga would “love” to come to the Premier League and claimed Chelsea and others had been in touch to ask about his availability.
But neither would represent the new broom Abramovich would appear to crave to reshape a squad that badly needs a vision for the long term. Of course, he could always go to the other extreme, take player power to its logical conclusion and install John Terry as manager.
Benitez, when he was appointed, claimed the task before him was “easy when you have experience at this level: to win games, try to do it playing well and win trophies”. It is unlikely even he feels the same way now. His experience, like those who came before him, will be just the latest salutary tale to weigh on the minds of those considering the demands of one of football’s most challenging jobs
Post by: lefty on April 11, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
moses an all do someting good he fall of some since ACON :applause:
atleast dey progress but is either dey tryin to prove dey could win Europa with a half-assed effort or dey jus doh care ...still see disinterest and lack of intensity in dat game
Post by: Blue on April 12, 2013, 12:38:34 AM
torres score ah beauty :o..............when last alyuh hear somebody say dat
moses an all do someting good he fall of some since ACON :applause:
atleast dey progress but is either dey tryin to prove dey could win Europa with a half-assed effort or dey jus doh care ...still see disinterest and lack of intensity in dat game
Torres pace seems to have improved in recent weeks, but I eh getting carried away yet.
Lack of intensity might just be tiredness or holding something in reserve on a plastic pitch. Having said that, I dont think anyone cares about this tournament but we might as well win it now that we here...plus I done book flights to the final so from my perspective we hadda reach lol.
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2013, 09:06:26 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2013, 09:09:10 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
....maybe not in TnT,,,but ut showin' live and direck hyere in nyc. ;D
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
....maybe not in TnT,,,but ut showin' live and direck hyere in nyc. ;D
:rotfl: Citeh come out fast and direct! Ya Ya like he had extra servings for breakfast.
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2013, 09:10:47 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
....maybe not in TnT,,,but ut showin' live and direck hyere in nyc. ;D
steups!! dey have the thing listed as showing but when I tune een nothing.....steups!! Ah want ah link.....help ah sistah nah..... ;D
Post by: D.H.W on April 14, 2013, 09:14:10 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
....maybe not in TnT,,,but ut showin' live and direck hyere in nyc. ;D
steups!! dey have the thing listed as showing but when I tune een nothing.....steups!! Ah want ah link.....help ah sistah nah..... ;D
-_- Bookmark it!
http://www.sportwebz.com/
http://www.streamhunter.eu/football-live-streaming-video.html
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2013, 09:23:04 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
....maybe not in TnT,,,but ut showin' live and direck hyere in nyc. ;D
steups!! dey have the thing listed as showing but when I tune een nothing.....steups!! Ah want ah link.....help ah sistah nah..... ;D
-_- Bookmark it!
http://www.sportwebz.com/
http://www.streamhunter.eu/football-live-streaming-video.html
Thank you doo doo darling.... :-* :-* ;D
Post by: lefty on April 14, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
wha u talkin bout i watchin it now on FSC I have greendot doh....but dat shouldn't be ah issue
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2013, 10:10:43 AM
Ivanovic is one of the worse defenders in the EPL! He get fat and heavy legged and has zero lateral movement! Luiz might as well be playing by himself.
What is it about short men scoring headers against Chelski?
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2013, 10:14:24 AM
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2013, 10:16:10 AM
uuuuuummmm FA cup semifinal not showing on FSC?? I now tune een and it eh showing...... ???
wha u talkin bout i watchin it now on FSC I have greendot doh....but dat shouldn't be ah issue
The coverage didn't start on time.....at the appointed 11:00 am hour some stupid car show started....but ah see it showing now.....but it doh matter Chelsea down 2 - 0 :cursing: :cursing: ah gone and wash some clothes.....
Post by: Bitter on April 14, 2013, 10:26:58 AM
Post by: Bitter on April 14, 2013, 10:28:10 AM
Warren Barton needs tuh STFU! Lampard is not the answer for stopping Ya Ya. Only Ya Ya can stop Ya Ya. Lampard would leave bigger holes for Ya ya tuh run thru or give him a nice escort up the field. Not athletic enough and he always looking tuh run in the box tuh score.
Barton jus vex Newcastle loss.
Post by: Bitter on April 14, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2013, 10:36:02 AM
This is a damn good game. I can't help but think that the Final will be a disappointment
Ent- ah want extra time.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2013, 10:41:49 AM
Post by: Bakes on April 14, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
Wat dey arse wrong with Sergio? He arse gettin banned for the final!
He will not be disciplined.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2013, 10:46:50 AM
Wat dey arse wrong with Sergio? He arse gettin banned for the final!
I hope he does......or for the replay if we score.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
Wat dey arse wrong with Sergio? He arse gettin banned for the final!
I hope he does......or for the replay if we score.
So is a replay? No extra time? Never mind. Torres to honest for he own good.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2013, 10:53:03 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2013, 10:53:36 AM
Wat dey arse wrong with Sergio? He arse gettin banned for the final!
I hope he does......or for the replay if we score.
So is a replay? No extra time? Never mind. Torres to honest for he own good.
well is too late fuh him to get punished in the game....
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2013, 10:55:32 AM
This is a damn good game. I can't help but think that the Final will be a disappointment
Yeah Man City done win de trophy.....who is Wigan Athletic?? ??? Chups....ah gone back to my load of laundry....
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2013, 10:55:45 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
This is a damn good game. I can't help but think that the Final will be a disappointment
Yeah Man City done win de trophy.....who is Wigan Athletic?? ??? Chups....ah gone back to my load of laundry....
COSIGN!!
Post by: Blue on April 17, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 17, 2013, 04:29:02 PM
DAVID LUIZ.....GOOOOOOLLLLAAASSSSOOOOO
Beautiful goal....de cynical part ah meh liking the irony of your appreciation for that goal....kinda touch on the little "discussion" we was having the other day about men taking (long to medium range) shots when they have it to take. ;) :beermug:
Post by: Blue on April 18, 2013, 12:20:55 AM
DAVID LUIZ.....GOOOOOOLLLLAAASSSSOOOOO
Beautiful goal....de cynical part ah meh liking the irony of your appreciation for that goal....kinda touch on the little "discussion" we was having the other day about men taking (long to medium range) shots when they have it to take. ;) :beermug:
I think we differ on whether a sample of one is representative. Anyway, here is the goal:
http://www.youtube.com/v/OdBiVNxNOgk
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 18, 2013, 10:58:36 AM
Post by: Blue on April 18, 2013, 03:41:25 PM
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01712/Chelsea-620-1_1712740a.jpg)
Post by: grimm01 on April 18, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
Also is Chelsea putting out a new kit every year? Don't teams usually do a new one every other year or alternate new home and away kits?
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 19, 2013, 02:55:57 PM
Lawd whey dey get that pic of Oscar? He looking like a prepubescent school girl...horrible pic.
Also is Chelsea putting out a new kit every year? Don't teams usually do a new one every other year or alternate new home and away kits?
Yeah, the trend lately has been every 2 years....but after Roman put out dah 50M fuh Torres and all dah fair play financial shit kickin' een..shirts hadda sell oui!
Post by: lefty on May 02, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzj3sj_c3-1b_lifestyle#from=embediframe
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2013, 06:00:41 PM
Post by: elan on May 02, 2013, 10:46:37 PM
Sweet goal, hope one of these matches he finally gets send off for one of his cheap shot tackles!
Right after Jonny Evans or Vidic
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 03, 2013, 08:13:04 AM
Sweet goal, hope one of these matches he finally gets send off for one of his cheap shot tackles!
Right after Jonny Evans or Vidic
:rotfl: Yuh wastin' yuh time dey!! If johnny evans eh get sent off yet for the shit he has already done, it will never happen and , as for Mr. "we don't care about pretty football" vidic, dem manu fans too focused on JT (and now, David Luiz) than to see how nasty HE is....Dey too happy to have an enforcer like he on dem team.
Post by: Blue on May 11, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
Post by: Observer on May 11, 2013, 07:38:02 AM
Super Frankie Lampard....203 goals, Chelsea's all time leading scorer :beermug:
Legend :applause: :applause:
Post by: Sando on May 11, 2013, 07:55:39 AM
Because Spurs and Gunners still have 6 points to play for !
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2013, 08:04:23 AM
Does this mean Chelsea qualify for the CL next year ?
Because Spurs and Gunners still have 6 points to play for !
Unless Spurs could make up a 17 goal margin in the next 2 matches, Chelsea is guaranteed at least 4th
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 08:23:40 AM
Post by: Blue on May 11, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
From day one up until now, Lampard has always been a class act. Hopefully we could win a trophy on Wednesday and he could ride off into the sunset like Drogba.
Man U have set an example: you do not just let your most experienced players ride off into the sunset. You don't go from hero to zero overnight. He is currently the 6th highest goalscorer in the Prem this season and is more than capable of making a contribution next season.
Post by: Sam on May 11, 2013, 09:12:12 AM
4. Arsenal 36 19 10 7 67 36
5. Tottenham Hotspur 36 19 9 8 63 45
So de 4th place finish playing CL qualifying against who though ?
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 09:26:55 AM
From day one up until now, Lampard has always been a class act. Hopefully we could win a trophy on Wednesday and he could ride off into the sunset like Drogba.
Man U have set an example: you do not just let your most experienced players ride off into the sunset. You don't go from hero to zero overnight. He is currently the 6th highest goalscorer in the Prem this season and is more than capable of making a contribution next season.
I totally agree that he still has something left in him and he should stay. As long as he first can accept that he can't be an everyday starter. That was something that he was absolutely not willing to accept last year under AVB when he was actually struggling to score but (ironically) seems to be quite happy to accept this season under "rotatin' Rafa" now that he's back to his old self again...this season he has rediscovered his scoring foot again, in great part to doing what I was saying last year that he needed to do, which was, to find his shooting foot again...especially when it comes to what is his greatest asset to the team: his medium-range shooting. (ain't that something. ;)) Ironically, again, (according to the football experts that carried the game today) it's because of his alleged role in the perceived undermining of AVB's attempts to re-shape Chelsea into the "British Barca" that is seeing him to the exit door. If yuh find out sumting at next week's game, leh we know.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 09:29:20 AM
3. Chelsea 37 21 9 7 73 38
4. Arsenal 36 19 10 7 67 36
5. Tottenham Hotspur 36 19 9 8 63 45
So de 4th place finish playing CL qualifying against who though ?
against the other European teams that qualified similarly in their respective domestic leagues (2nd, 3rd or 4th place, where applicable, etc).....and other variable qualifying criteria...I thinks.
Post by: Blue on May 16, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
Pre-game the atmosphere was mostly mellow (not really a surprise in Amsterdam). The game meant alot more to Benfica fans than Chelsea fans...Benfica were there to try and win their first European trophy in decades, Chelsea were basically there for the party.
At one point it looked as if it was all kicking off in the town center near where me and my pardna were liming. I couldnt see whether it was Chelsea v Benfica or just Chelsea imbeciles fighting one another. Anyway we decided to make a move down the road, just as a squad of Chelsea hard men came steaming in looking for a fight, quickly followed by some MASSIVE dutch police (some of them fellas look like robocop on steroids), followed by a herd of police horses, then even more police. Didn't hear any more about that fiasco, guess nothing came of it (edit - more about it here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/europa-league-final-chelsea-hooligans-1892194)
Anyway, onto the match. I eh go lie, we were pretty poor yesterday, Benfica were better. We looked tired and seemed to be conserving energy in the first half. David Luiz and Lampard were getting overrun in midfield and Ramires was useless out on the right wing. The only saving grace for us was the Benfica aren't that skillful and just couldn't make good use of their possession. Similar to last year's game at Stamford Bridge, they had a lot of the ball but didn't threaten anywhere near as much as they could have.
Second half we stepped it up a bit and that half was more competitive from a Chelsea perspective. Even so, I wasn't looking forward to extra time - several players were completely bun in the last 10 minutes, Benitez was determined not to sub anybody and as a spectacle the match was still pretty dry. So thank God for Ivanovic ;D. That ball seemed to hang in the air for ever...we were behind that goal...watched the ball loop high across the six yard box...watched the keeper take a step and then stop as if the ball was going over...but then.... :wavetowel:
As every Chelsea hater has already said, the Europa League doesn't compare to Champions League and its true...for me yesterday's experience could never touch Munich. Amsterdam was fun but Munich was magical. But a trophy is a trophy and it was a great way to end the season :beermug:
Jimmy Floyd in de dance
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Pre-game
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Benfica
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Chelsea
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Action
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Champions
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Celebrations
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Post by: Blue on May 18, 2013, 07:16:49 AM
Chelsea loan star Thorgan Hazard on top form for Belgian side Zulte-Waregem
http://www.givemefootball.com/346162-thorgan-hazard-earns-belgium-call-up
Chelsea loan star Thorgan Hazard has been on top form for Belgian side Zulte-Waregem this season as they stand on the cusp of their first ever league title.
Eden Hazard's brother joined Chelsea with slightly less fanfare last summer, and was immediately loaned to Zulte-Waregem.
His performances at the club have earned him a call up to the national team, and he demonstrated just what he can do earlier this week with an awesome performance in their 5-2 victory over Club Brugge.
The younger Hazard pulled the strings, bagging one and setting up two for his side.
And a win over Anderlecht this weekend - the final league fixture of the season - will see them secure their maiden title and Champions League qualification.
Post by: Bitter on May 19, 2013, 10:52:41 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Post by: Blue on May 20, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZzDB70d9AUU#!
Post by: de_redman on May 20, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
Great goal, great celebrationSign him up! He can replace Torres... ;D
Post by: elan on May 31, 2013, 01:28:06 PM
Post by: grimm01 on May 31, 2013, 02:30:59 PM
Torres + $30 mill for Cavani from Napoli
Talk about depreciation.
Post by: D.H.W on June 03, 2013, 06:45:43 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 03, 2013, 08:32:37 PM
Jose coming back, not a smart move
Only time can tell but why you say it isn't a smart move?
Post by: D.H.W on June 03, 2013, 08:46:15 PM
Jose coming back, not a smart move
Only time can tell but why you say it isn't a smart move?
Because the Russian bastard still running things, two man rat cah live in the same hole
Post by: Deeks on June 03, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
Jose coming back, not a smart move
Only time can tell but why you say it isn't a smart move?
Because the Russian bastard still running things, two man rat cah live in the same hole
Is the Russian bastard spending he money!
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 03, 2013, 11:37:11 PM
Jose coming back, not a smart move
Only time can tell but why you say it isn't a smart move?
Because the Russian bastard still running things, two man rat cah live in the same hole
I hyear what yuh sayin' and I agree, he's a damned prick, but, as Deeks say, is he spendin' he money but more importantly, and, at the end of the day, somebody hadda coach de team and who better than the Special One? Meanwhile, I rubbin' meh hands wit GLEE at the prospect of what Messi, Neymar, Xavi and Iniesta go do to European football........dey soung like a dam law firm! ;D
Post by: triniairman on June 03, 2013, 11:57:23 PM
Neymar aint doing shit, infact, Barca is old news, The Germans are back!! ;DJose coming back, not a smart move
Only time can tell but why you say it isn't a smart move?
Because the Russian bastard still running things, two man rat cah live in the same hole
I hyear what yuh sayin' and I agree, he's a damned prick, but, as Deeks say, is he spendin' he money but more importantly, and, at the end of the day, somebody hadda coach de team and who better than the Special One? Meanwhile, I rubbin' meh hands wit GLEE at the prospect of what Messi, Neymar, Xavi and Iniesta go do to European football........dey soung like a dam law firm! ;D
Post by: sammy on June 04, 2013, 06:45:05 AM
Jose coming back, not a smart move
Only time can tell but why you say it isn't a smart move?
Because the Russian bastard still running things, two man rat cah live in the same hole
I hyear what yuh sayin' and I agree, he's a damned prick, but, as Deeks say, is he spendin' he money but more importantly, and, at the end of the day, somebody hadda coach de team and who better than the Special One? Meanwhile, I rubbin' meh hands wit GLEE at the prospect of what Messi, Neymar, Xavi and Iniesta go do to European football........dey soung like a dam law firm! ;D
But what about Terry - Jose relationship? Didnt Terry help to push him out?
Post by: davidephraim on August 07, 2013, 09:52:58 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 07, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
Post by: injunchile on August 08, 2013, 07:00:46 AM
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Post by: lefty on August 08, 2013, 07:46:04 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 08, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 08, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?
Post by: KND2 on August 08, 2013, 10:30:43 AM
I would pick Messi.
Ronaldo only beat him on the physical power side.
Messi game does not depend on power
even if Messi comes up against faster more powerful men he finds a way to be successful.
I have seen Ronaldo get locked down plenty of times
same cannot be said of Messi.
he always finds a way to at least have an impact.
Post by: futbolfan on August 08, 2013, 10:38:55 AM
If you had a chance to pick either messi or ronaldo who whould you pick for your side.
I would pick Messi.
Ronaldo only beat him on the physical power side.
Messi game does not depend on power
even if Messi comes up against faster more powerful men he finds a way to be successful.
I have seen Ronaldo get locked down plenty of times
same cannot be said of Messi.
he always finds a way to at least have an impact.
Messi has been been locked down many times while playing for Argentina. I think a true test would be if Messi went to a different team in another league. I don't think that he will struggle, but he may not be as dominant as he is with Barcelona.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 08, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 08, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
If you had a chance to pick either messi or ronaldo who whould you pick for your side.
I would pick Messi.
Ronaldo only beat him on the physical power side.
Messi game does not depend on power
even if Messi comes up against faster more powerful men he finds a way to be successful.
I have seen Ronaldo get locked down plenty of times
same cannot be said of Messi.
he always finds a way to at least have an impact.
Messi has been been locked down many times while playing for Argentina. I think a true test would be if Messi went to a different team in another league. I don't think that he will struggle, but he may not be as dominant as he is with Barcelona.
not too many teams in south America locking him OR Argentina down these days th ;)o.
Post by: Banter Banton on August 08, 2013, 10:49:05 AM
Post by: futbolfan on August 08, 2013, 10:53:55 AM
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?
Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?
Post by: noize on August 08, 2013, 11:14:10 AM
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 08, 2013, 11:19:05 AM
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?
Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?
You sounding like them ronaldo fans that repeating the same thing about being "successful" at different clubs. Pele only played for ONE club before retiring with the cosmos eh....Where has ronaldo proven that he is "better" at heading the ball than Messi? Just because he scores more goals with his head does not make him "better" at it and if RM played the same "tiki-taka" style of football that Barca does, ronaldo wasn't scoring that many headers, either. You forget that goal that messi score against manu and left rio and vds in knots? You think he score that because he cyah head a ball....good? If you know the kinds of (heading) drills an Argentinian have to perform to pass muster for their national team yuh would be embarrassed for saying that.
to say that ronaldo is a better finisher suggest yuh smoking something, jed. for real...ask Almunia if Messi cyah finish like ronaldo...ask AC Milan....ask manu and vds again, remember de bullet he put on dem in Wembley? Nah, jed, try again.
Post by: futbolfan on August 08, 2013, 11:54:01 AM
Ronaldo fan? nah not by a long shot, but ah just like to see good players ply dey trade. Neymar,Messi,Ronald etc.Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?
Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?
You sounding like them ronaldo fans that repeating the same thing about being "successful" at different clubs. Pele only played for ONE club before retiring with the cosmos eh....Where has ronaldo proven that he is "better" at heading the ball than Messi? Just because he scores more goals with his head does not make him "better" at it and if RM played the same "tiki-taka" style of football that Barca does, ronaldo wasn't scoring that many headers, either. You forget that goal that messi score against manu and left rio and vds in knots? You think he score that because he cyah head a ball....good? If you know the kinds of (heading) drills an Argentinian have to perform to pass muster for their national team yuh would be embarrassed for saying that.
to say that ronaldo is a better finisher suggest yuh smoking something, jed. for real...ask Almunia if Messi cyah finish like ronaldo...ask AC Milan....ask manu and vds again, remember de bullet he put on dem in Wembley? Nah, jed, try again.
He is a talented player, but sometimes the antics and flopping does get old. That being said I am just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.
Argentina could be head butting co-co nuts in dey team drills but it eh go make Messi a better header of the ball than Ronaldo.
I eh saying Messi cyah head the ball, but you seriously think he is a better header of the ball than Ronaldo?
As far as finishing, Ronaldo's goal scoring record in the EPL AND La Liga speaks volumes.
Yuh call all dem big teams, but didn't Ronaldo score against them also?
If yuh say Messi's vision is better than Ronaldo, I will totally agree, but we go have to agree to disagree on the other attributes.
Who was the better player Zidane or Ronald (brasil)
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 08, 2013, 12:51:13 PM
Ronaldo fan? nah not by a long shot, but ah just like to see good players ply dey trade. Neymar,Messi,Ronald etc.Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?
Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?
You sounding like them ronaldo fans that repeating the same thing about being "successful" at different clubs. Pele only played for ONE club before retiring with the cosmos eh....Where has ronaldo proven that he is "better" at heading the ball than Messi? Just because he scores more goals with his head does not make him "better" at it and if RM played the same "tiki-taka" style of football that Barca does, ronaldo wasn't scoring that many headers, either. You forget that goal that messi score against manu and left rio and vds in knots? You think he score that because he cyah head a ball....good? If you know the kinds of (heading) drills an Argentinian have to perform to pass muster for their national team yuh would be embarrassed for saying that.
to say that ronaldo is a better finisher suggest yuh smoking something, jed. for real...ask Almunia if Messi cyah finish like ronaldo...ask AC Milan....ask manu and vds again, remember de bullet he put on dem in Wembley? Nah, jed, try again.
He is a talented player, but sometimes the antics and flopping does get old. That being said I am just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.
Argentina could be head butting co-co nuts in dey team drills but it eh go make Messi a better header of the ball than Ronaldo.
I eh saying Messi cyah head the ball, but you seriously think he is a better header of the ball than Ronaldo?
As far as finishing, Ronaldo's goal scoring record in the EPL AND La Liga speaks volumes.
Yuh call all dem big teams, but didn't Ronaldo score against them also?
If yuh say Messi's vision is better than Ronaldo, I will totally agree, but we go have to agree to disagree on the other attributes.
Who was the better player Zidane or Ronald (brasil)
Zidane and ronaldo were two completely different players playing completely different roles....but I would still take ronaldo probably because I am a Brazil fan.
I still want to know what makes ronaldo a better header of the ball than Messi? I asked you if RM played the same style of football as Barca where they as a team don't play the ball in the air as much as RM do, if ronaldo would score as many headers and yuh still eh answer meh yet. Just because he scores more with his head doesn't make him better. I brought up their national team drills because it speaks directly of their ability....anything ronaldo can do, Messi can do, too, and in most cases (if not all) he does them better. Yes, ronaldo scored against them teams, too, but you cannot compare the quality of the goals that Messi scores. You ever see ronaldo run up the middle with the ball and take on a whole central defence?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 08, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
Post by: futbolfan on August 08, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
Ronaldo fan? nah not by a long shot, but ah just like to see good players ply dey trade. Neymar,Messi,Ronald etc.Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest
Ronaldo has more tools than Messi. People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision. If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet. Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective. This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore. And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.
What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?
Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?
You sounding like them ronaldo fans that repeating the same thing about being "successful" at different clubs. Pele only played for ONE club before retiring with the cosmos eh....Where has ronaldo proven that he is "better" at heading the ball than Messi? Just because he scores more goals with his head does not make him "better" at it and if RM played the same "tiki-taka" style of football that Barca does, ronaldo wasn't scoring that many headers, either. You forget that goal that messi score against manu and left rio and vds in knots? You think he score that because he cyah head a ball....good? If you know the kinds of (heading) drills an Argentinian have to perform to pass muster for their national team yuh would be embarrassed for saying that.
to say that ronaldo is a better finisher suggest yuh smoking something, jed. for real...ask Almunia if Messi cyah finish like ronaldo...ask AC Milan....ask manu and vds again, remember de bullet he put on dem in Wembley? Nah, jed, try again.
He is a talented player, but sometimes the antics and flopping does get old. That being said I am just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.
Argentina could be head butting co-co nuts in dey team drills but it eh go make Messi a better header of the ball than Ronaldo.
I eh saying Messi cyah head the ball, but you seriously think he is a better header of the ball than Ronaldo?
As far as finishing, Ronaldo's goal scoring record in the EPL AND La Liga speaks volumes.
Yuh call all dem big teams, but didn't Ronaldo score against them also?
If yuh say Messi's vision is better than Ronaldo, I will totally agree, but we go have to agree to disagree on the other attributes.
Who was the better player Zidane or Ronald (brasil)
Zidane and ronaldo were two completely different players playing completely different roles....but I would still take ronaldo probably because I am a Brazil fan.
I still want to know what makes ronaldo a better header of the ball than Messi? I asked you if RM played the same style of football as Barca where they as a team don't play the ball in the air as much as RM do, if ronaldo would score as many headers and yuh still eh answer meh yet. Just because he scores more with his head doesn't make him better. I brought up their national team drills because it speaks directly of their ability....anything ronaldo can do, Messi can do, too, and in most cases (if not all) he does them better. Yes, ronaldo scored against them teams, too, but you cannot compare the quality of the goals that Messi scores. You ever see ronaldo run up the middle with the ball and take on a whole central defence?
I completely agree that Ronaldo was better than Zidane. But as you mentioned, they are both completely different players who fulfilled different roles. The same can be said for Ronaldo and Messi. I think your view may be based on personal preference or an utter dislike of Ronaldo and that is cool.
On as side note, how can you be a true Brazil fan and support a player from Argentina? ;D A true Brazil fan would support a player from the Salmon Islands before they ever vouch for an Argie.. ;D
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 08, 2013, 03:01:38 PM
Post by: Fyzoman on August 08, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
And while Ronaldo is part of the discussion...I wonder how many people (and by that I mean his haters and detractors) expected his reaction to the fan who invaded the field last night.
Ah mean what is this Jerk doing embracing this fan (and for so long too?), it was-for me-a very moving moment in the life of one our current great footballers...oh and added to the fact that he scored two against his old coach's team, I'll say the Ronaldo fans in Miami last night got their money's worth, and then some :)
Post by: futbolfan on August 23, 2013, 01:09:10 PM
Kinda underhanded move my Chelsea if my I may say so, but then again at the end of the day football is a business....
Chelsea agree £30 million Willian deal
Willian has opted to join Chelsea rather than Tottenham, a source has told ESPN, with the Blues agreeing a £30 million deal with Anzhi Makhachkala to sign the forward subject to a work permit hearing.
Chelsea made their move for the 25-year-old late on Thursday, just when it emerged that he was undergoing a medical with Spurs.
Mourinho hinted during his press-conference on Friday that he already knew of the Brazilian's decision, while adding that he was an “extra target” alongside Manchester United’s Wayne Rooney, who he will continue to pursue. The Portuguese also insisted that Juan Mata is not for sale.
But despite attempting to remain coy, Mourinho seemed to revel in discussing the Willian situation as he joked about the dangers of doing a medical before any contract is finalised.
When specifically asked about the possibility of Willian joining Chelsea ahead of Spurs, Mourinho paused and then said: “That’s a good question because I think he already made his decision.”
The Portuguese attempted to evade questions about whether that decision was to move to Chelsea, but then conceded that he “couldn’t hide” what he knew.
“I don’t like to speak before time, because football can be crazy and this is the problem when we speak a lot about names and transfers,” he said. “Sometimes it looks like [a situation is one way], but it isn’t. But I know what the player wants, so we cannot hide.
“That’s the danger of medicals before contracts but, at the same time, sometimes you can have a problem before signing a player so you have to do the medical before. The best thing you can do is do the medical in secret. The player is fine, you can sign him. The player is not fine, you don’t destroy his career by saying the player has problems. So you do it in secret and after that sign the contract with the club and the player.
“Sometimes you don’t make it. Sometimes you guys have great sources, find everything, but that’s the risk.”
When quizzed on whether he expected the deal to be completed, Mourinho again joked: “We have to do a medical!”
The Blues boss also said that he hopes to bring in Willian alongside a striker like Rooney.
“If you remember the press conference [ahead of the Aston Villa match]. I couldn’t say much. I have to answer your question and try to be honest, but at the same time try to hide a few things,” he said. “Yeah, it’s true. But if you remember I told you that I’m happy with my squad but every one of us managers, we say we are happy but we are always unhappy. We always want something more, always want something of more quality, and we never close the door to the possibility of adding more quality.
“Before Villa, I told you we have plan B and we have plan C, so I was letting the door open to other possibilities.”
Mourinho also indicated he is relaxed about the Rooney situation, with Chelsea understood to be readying a final bid after their visit to Manchester United on Monday.
“At this moment, I don’t care. I have a big match to play on Monday. I don’t care with new players, with the market, I don’t care,” he said.
“Not disappointed [if we don’t get a forward] but we are going to try, we are going to try to the last day, as I was saying before, to add more quality to the team, to add more options, we are going to try.”
Finally, despite the pursuit of Willian increasing the speculation about Mata being mooted as a potential swap for Rooney, Mourinho stated the Spain international is not for sale.
“No speculation, no speculation. He's a player we all like, he's a player we all want to keep,” he said. “We want more quality in the team, we don’t want less quality. We want to add quality to the quality we have. So Juan is not a player we want to lose.
“The point is not to sell, the point is I want a 22-player squad. So if somebody comes... Do we need to sell? No, we don’t. Do we need to loan, probably yes because I don’t like to work with big squads. I like to work with a small group of players and I think 22 is a perfect number to answer to our needs in four different competitions, and at same time to leave the door open for some kids to come out and train with us, to be selected in a few matches.”
By Miguel Delaney
espn.com
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 23, 2013, 08:10:59 PM
Post by: Bakes on August 24, 2013, 05:26:04 AM
Dat is payback fuh de shit Levy pull about 3 years ago when he hold Luka Modric hostage. Let dem take dat in dey pwefem!
How they hold Modric "hostage"? Is Liverpool holding Suarez hostage now? Why would any club allow a top-class player go to one of their chief rivals for a championship... let alone a cross-town rival? Say what yuh want about Chelsea swooping for Willian- and Spurs just getting a taste ah dey own medicine for swooping and hijacking the deal from Liverpool- but I can't blame them for the Modric situation as it went down.
Post by: triniairman on August 24, 2013, 07:54:50 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 26, 2013, 04:14:45 AM
Post by: dinho on August 26, 2013, 08:42:05 AM
Just hope he passes the medical :D.
On another note, Chelsea's midfield is overstocked right now, I would expect to see at least Essien and Van Ginkel go out on loan but hope they don't send Moses.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 26, 2013, 09:51:22 AM
From the first time i saw Willian at Shaktar Donetsk I said he is the closest thing to a Russel Latapy in modern football. Said since then that I would have been happy to see him at Chelsea to replace Lampard, so very happy to see that come to fruition.
Just hope he passes the medical :D.
On another note, Chelsea's midfield is overstocked right now, I would expect to see at least Essien and Van Ginkel go out on loan but hope they don't send Moses.
I think Jose going to compete hard for every trophy if he doesn't. Considering we still looking to add a striker too. I agree with your assesment of Willian, da boy is de real scenes. Yo buh Jose eh bet he nasty to do Spurms dat in troot doh :D
Post by: Bitter on August 26, 2013, 01:58:20 PM
How De Bruyne get a yellow and Valencia? get away with a rediculous tackle with just a talking-to?
Post by: Bitter on August 26, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Post by: lefty on August 26, 2013, 02:55:23 PM
Post by: triniairman on August 26, 2013, 02:57:36 PM
Study de cuttarse allyuh gettin later @ home!well that did not happen, how about you all try again @ home. Lucky the ref eyes in he kaka hole, otherwise we would of had a penalty which Rooney would have scored lol
Post by: Bitter on August 26, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
I find jose playin it too conservative :( glad for d point but he coulda take ah risk and bring in Mata and lukaku or ba ................Ancellotti wah yuh :(
Ba didn't make the bench. Both sides played not to lose.
Study de cuttarse allyuh gettin later @ home!well that did not happen, how about you all try again @ home. Lucky the ref eyes in he kaka hole, otherwise we would of had a penalty which Rooney would have scored lol
If your nosehole was a post-hole...
No penalty there. Just an all-around boring game. Typical Jose though. I might have to switch to Arsenal, they might not win anything, but you can't say the games are boring.
Post by: Bakes on August 26, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
They done tiefin.
How De Bruyne get a yellow and Valencia? get away with a rediculous tackle with just a talking-to?
Valencia get a bligh because the ref gave Ashley young a bligh earlier... come on man.
As for the match... real underwhelming affair. Jose came out settling for a point, playing without a striker for 60 mins. Good defensive performance by Chelsea though. They lucky not to be called for a penalty on that handball shout. Cole deserved a booking for that blatant dive in the box.
Post by: Bitter on August 26, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
They done tiefin.
How De Bruyne get a yellow and Valencia? get away with a rediculous tackle with just a talking-to?
Valencia get a bligh because the ref gave Ashley young a bligh earlier... come on man.
So De Bruyne get a yellow that Cole should have gotten. ok.
Post by: Bakes on August 26, 2013, 03:55:27 PM
They done tiefin.
How De Bruyne get a yellow and Valencia? get away with a rediculous tackle with just a talking-to?
Valencia get a bligh because the ref gave Ashley young a bligh earlier... come on man.
So De Bruyne get a yellow that Cole should have gotten. ok.
No. The game/tackles were starting to get outta hand... De Bruyne was just unlucky that he got the first card after the ref was a bit too lenient on both teams.
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 26, 2013, 04:06:27 PM
They done tiefin.
How De Bruyne get a yellow and Valencia? get away with a rediculous tackle with just a talking-to?
Valencia get a bligh because the ref gave Ashley young a bligh earlier... come on man.
As for the match... real underwhelming affair. Jose came out settling for a point, playing without a striker for 60 mins. Good defensive performance by Chelsea though. They lucky not to be called for a penalty on that handball shout. Cole deserved a booking for that blatant dive in the box.
And he get up and start to quarrel with the ref. Too much playacting!
Post by: triniairman on August 26, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
Drogba must have been so proud to see some of his moves still being used at Chelsea ;DThey done tiefin.
How De Bruyne get a yellow and Valencia? get away with a rediculous tackle with just a talking-to?
Valencia get a bligh because the ref gave Ashley young a bligh earlier... come on man.
As for the match... real underwhelming affair. Jose came out settling for a point, playing without a striker for 60 mins. Good defensive performance by Chelsea though. They lucky not to be called for a penalty on that handball shout. Cole deserved a booking for that blatant dive in the box.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 27, 2013, 08:57:46 AM
Study de cuttarse allyuh gettin later @ home!well that did not happen, how about you all try again @ home. Lucky the ref eyes in he kaka hole, otherwise we would of had a penalty which Rooney would have scored lol
Allyuh dead dis f**kin season lmao. Hoss look at how many options our bench had if Jose really wanted to take it to allyuh yesterday. Who Allyuh had dat coulda change de game if needed? Geh tie up, Jose put out that team to show Rooney that he want him to come play and lead our attack. It probably didn't work but make no mistake the team we put out wasn't set up to pressure allyuh. When allyuh come to de bridge allyuh will get ah dread sweat! :D
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2013, 09:11:16 AM
but why do we really want Rooney........we never give truly give Sturridge ah good extended run...BA same ting , Lukaku?..........I never was keen for Torres anyways......but Lukaku and\or BA should get some real minutes man.......my only real complaint is BA does seem to read d Ooffside trap too good but I feel dat have more to do with d play getting slowed down in weird times while attackinStudy de cuttarse allyuh gettin later @ home!well that did not happen, how about you all try again @ home. Lucky the ref eyes in he kaka hole, otherwise we would of had a penalty which Rooney would have scored lol
Allyuh dead dis f**kin season lmao. Hoss look at how many options our bench had if Jose really wanted to take it to allyuh yesterday. Who Allyuh had dat coulda change de game if needed? Geh tie up, Jose put out that team to show Rooney that he want him to come play and lead our attack. It probably didn't work but make no mistake the team we put out wasn't set up to pressure allyuh. When allyuh come to de bridge allyuh will get ah dread sweat! :D
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 27, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
but why do we really want Rooney........we never give truly give Sturridge ah good extended run...BA same ting , Lukaku?..........I never was keen for Torres anyways......but Lukaku and\or BA should get some real minutes man.......my only real complaint is BA does seem to read d Ooffside trap too good but I feel dat have more to do with d play getting slowed down in weird times while attackinStudy de cuttarse allyuh gettin later @ home!well that did not happen, how about you all try again @ home. Lucky the ref eyes in he kaka hole, otherwise we would of had a penalty which Rooney would have scored lol
Allyuh dead dis f**kin season lmao. Hoss look at how many options our bench had if Jose really wanted to take it to allyuh yesterday. Who Allyuh had dat coulda change de game if needed? Geh tie up, Jose put out that team to show Rooney that he want him to come play and lead our attack. It probably didn't work but make no mistake the team we put out wasn't set up to pressure allyuh. When allyuh come to de bridge allyuh will get ah dread sweat! :D
My theory on Rooney is that a. he want to stick it to Man U by taking away their crown jewel. b. he believes that Rooney is a better option than any of the 3 we currently have, and 3. With Rooney will come a bunch of fans that are more infatuated with him than they love Man U. He doesn't favor Ba too much so my guess is Ba might be gone by the time the window closes. He believes he can ressurect Torres and if pre season is any indicator he like Lukaku but probably thinks he need a lil more seasoning. Sturridge while talented always seemed to make the wrong decision while at Chelsea. When he shoould shoot he would pass and when there was no opportunity for a good shot and the pass made sense, there he was taking a wasted shot. I liked him and believe he can blossom into a lethal striker. He is certainly playing his part at pool.
Post by: Bakes on August 27, 2013, 09:38:44 AM
My theory on Rooney is that a. he want to stick it to Man U by taking away their crown jewel. b. he believes that Rooney is a better option than any of the 3 we currently have, and 3. With Rooney will come a bunch of fans that are more infatuated with him than they love Man U. He doesn't favor Ba too much so my guess is Ba might be gone by the time the window closes. He believes he can ressurect Torres and if pre season is any indicator he like Lukaku but probably thinks he need a lil more seasoning. Sturridge while talented always seemed to make the wrong decision while at Chelsea. When he shoould shoot he would pass and when there was no opportunity for a good shot and the pass made sense, there he was taking a wasted shot. I liked him and believe he can blossom into a lethal striker. He is certainly playing his part at pool.
Maybe he's finally found a manager who knows how to best utilize his talents... 12 goals in 16 appearances since joining Liverpool. Meanwhile, "El Pickney"... score 15 goals in 84 appearances since Joining Chelsea. That worked out well.
Post by: futbolfan on August 27, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
Study de cuttarse allyuh gettin later @ home!well that did not happen, how about you all try again @ home. Lucky the ref eyes in he kaka hole, otherwise we would of had a penalty which Rooney would have scored lol
Allyuh dead dis f**kin season lmao. Hoss look at how many options our bench had if Jose really wanted to take it to allyuh yesterday. Who Allyuh had dat coulda change de game if needed? Geh tie up, Jose put out that team to show Rooney that he want him to come play and lead our attack. It probably didn't work but make no mistake the team we put out wasn't set up to pressure allyuh. When allyuh come to de bridge allyuh will get ah dread sweat! :D
Hate to agree with this point, but other than Kagwa, Man-U did not have a game changer on the bench. A 52 year old Giggs came on and although he is a quality player, he is well past his prime. If decide to sell Rooney, they better make sure a world class talent is coming in and ah eh talking bout Baines or Fellani...
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2013, 09:57:43 AM
My theory on Rooney is that a. he want to stick it to Man U by taking away their crown jewel. b. he believes that Rooney is a better option than any of the 3 we currently have, and 3. With Rooney will come a bunch of fans that are more infatuated with him than they love Man U. He doesn't favor Ba too much so my guess is Ba might be gone by the time the window closes. He believes he can ressurect Torres and if pre season is any indicator he like Lukaku but probably thinks he need a lil more seasoning. Sturridge while talented always seemed to make the wrong decision while at Chelsea. When he shoould shoot he would pass and when there was no opportunity for a good shot and the pass made sense, there he was taking a wasted shot. I liked him and believe he can blossom into a lethal striker. He is certainly playing his part at pool.
I hear yuh, still eh to keen on how jose runnin ting doh, Mata coulda make a real difference as a late addition yesterday, even d ones we win has been like watchin paint dry....for the most part, cyah understand how he moving so with Mata, especially since he seems the best fit with hazard and the most Creative in his position.............steups
Post by: futbolfan on August 27, 2013, 10:12:19 AM
My theory on Rooney is that a. he want to stick it to Man U by taking away their crown jewel. b. he believes that Rooney is a better option than any of the 3 we currently have, and 3. With Rooney will come a bunch of fans that are more infatuated with him than they love Man U. He doesn't favor Ba too much so my guess is Ba might be gone by the time the window closes. He believes he can ressurect Torres and if pre season is any indicator he like Lukaku but probably thinks he need a lil more seasoning. Sturridge while talented always seemed to make the wrong decision while at Chelsea. When he shoould shoot he would pass and when there was no opportunity for a good shot and the pass made sense, there he was taking a wasted shot. I liked him and believe he can blossom into a lethal striker. He is certainly playing his part at pool.
I hear yuh, still eh to keen on how jose runnin ting doh, Mata coulda make a real difference as a late addition yesterday, even d ones we win has been like watchin paint dry....for the most part, cyah understand how he moving so with Mata, especially since he seems the best fit with hazard and the most Creative in his position.............steups
Mata is great attacking player, but he is defensive liability in Jose's system. If Mata was smart he would request an immediate trade because man like Lampard and Essien may get more playing time than him this season.
Post by: Bitter on August 27, 2013, 10:21:38 AM
My theory on Rooney is that a. he want to stick it to Man U by taking away their crown jewel. b. he believes that Rooney is a better option than any of the 3 we currently have, and 3. With Rooney will come a bunch of fans that are more infatuated with him than they love Man U. He doesn't favor Ba too much so my guess is Ba might be gone by the time the window closes. He believes he can ressurect Torres and if pre season is any indicator he like Lukaku but probably thinks he need a lil more seasoning. Sturridge while talented always seemed to make the wrong decision while at Chelsea. When he shoould shoot he would pass and when there was no opportunity for a good shot and the pass made sense, there he was taking a wasted shot. I liked him and believe he can blossom into a lethal striker. He is certainly playing his part at pool.
I hear yuh, still eh to keen on how jose runnin ting doh, Mata coulda make a real difference as a late addition yesterday, even d ones we win has been like watchin paint dry....for the most part, cyah understand how he moving so with Mata, especially since he seems the best fit with hazard and the most Creative in his position.............steups
Except for a few periods (so many managers!), Chelsea since 2004 has been like watching paint dry. When I first started following Chelsea, they weren't as successful, but certainly more entertaining. Gullit, Vialli and Ranieri all produced exciting teams.
Mourinho's teams have always had too much talent for such a cautious approach. To be fair, The last few United teams haven't been champagne football either. The only teams that seem to want to go out and play, are all out of the top 3, so I guess the results speak for themselves.
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2013, 10:40:59 AM
My theory on Rooney is that a. he want to stick it to Man U by taking away their crown jewel. b. he believes that Rooney is a better option than any of the 3 we currently have, and 3. With Rooney will come a bunch of fans that are more infatuated with him than they love Man U. He doesn't favor Ba too much so my guess is Ba might be gone by the time the window closes. He believes he can ressurect Torres and if pre season is any indicator he like Lukaku but probably thinks he need a lil more seasoning. Sturridge while talented always seemed to make the wrong decision while at Chelsea. When he shoould shoot he would pass and when there was no opportunity for a good shot and the pass made sense, there he was taking a wasted shot. I liked him and believe he can blossom into a lethal striker. He is certainly playing his part at pool.
I hear yuh, still eh to keen on how jose runnin ting doh, Mata coulda make a real difference as a late addition yesterday, even d ones we win has been like watchin paint dry....for the most part, cyah understand how he moving so with Mata, especially since he seems the best fit with hazard and the most Creative in his position.............steups
Except for a few periods (so many managers!), Chelsea since 2004 has been like watching paint dry. When I first started following Chelsea, they weren't as successful, but certainly more entertaining. Gullit, Vialli and Ranieri all produced exciting teams.
Mourinho's teams have always had too much talent for such a cautious approach. To be fair, The last few United teams haven't been champagne football either. The only teams that seem to want to go out and play, are all out of the top 3, so I guess the results speak for themselves.
this is why I favour Ancelotti\Ray Wilkins more than jose, defensive and offensive records in that first year....will always say without apology dat d Russian fuuck up ah good ting.
Post by: dinho on August 27, 2013, 11:05:46 AM
http://www.chelseafc.com/chelsea-article/article/3438268
On unused sub Juan Mata, who has been linked with a move away from the club:
'He is very important for me, for Chelsea. The stories coming are nonsense stories, he goes nowhere and is very important for me. He had a very small pre-season after the Confederations Cup, during that small pre-season he was injured. He started training two days before we played the first Premier League match, and had a match last week against Aston Villa, a difficult one, and today I decided to put him on the bench.
'I played with De Bruyne on the right because I know De Bruyne will give complete control of Evra defensively. When Juan plays on the right he comes more inside. I don't say the kid is more tactically disciplined but is more adapted to that situation. I wanted Oscar to play behind the striker so I decided not to play Juan.. Minute 70, 75, I was feeling [it was] difficult to win, I don't want to lose, so I made the changes to control the last few minutes of the game, but no chance Juan goes anywhere.'
Post by: dinho on August 29, 2013, 10:27:10 AM
http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3441538/title/etoo-signs
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Posted on: Thu 29 Aug 2013
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Samuel Eto'o from Anzhi Makhachkala.
The 32-year-old has signed a one-year contract and on finalising the transfer he said: 'I am very happy to be here but also anxious because I want to get playing as soon as possible.
'It wasn't a hard decision. I saw the qualities Chelsea have, and I was very happy with Jose Mourinho before, so when the opportunity came, I was very happy to take it.'
A prolific striker who has scored goals at the highest level throughout his career, Eto'o learned his trade in his native Cameroon before joining the Real Madrid youth academy in 1997. He then embarked on loan spells with Leganes, Espanyol and Real Mallorca.
His time at Mallorca proved a pivotal period in his early career, as a string of impressive displays earned Eto'o a permanent move to the club in 2000. The highlight there came when he scored twice to help his side to a 3-0 win over Recreativo in the 2003 Copa del Rey final.
Having caught the eye with his predatory instincts in front of goal as well as helping Mallorca secure qualification to the Champions League for the first time in their history, some of Europe's biggest clubs unsurprisingly began to show an interest in acquiring his services, and after becoming Mallorca's all-time leading league goalscorer, he completed a move to Barcelona in 2004.
Eto'o made his debut away at Racing Santander on the opening day of the 2004/05 season and scored the second goal in a 2-0 win, before netting four times in the space of two matches shortly after.
His impact was so significant that by the end of October he had already scored eight league goals, a run of form which would continue throughout the campaign as Frank Rijkaard's side clinched the La Liga title.
During that season he also scored the winner for Barcelona as Chelsea were beaten 2-1 in the Camp Nou in the Champions League, although it was the Blues who would progress courtesy of a 4-2 second-leg victory at Stamford Bridge.
Eto'o went from strength to strength during the following season, once again playing a pivotal role as Barcelona retained the domestic title. He also finished the campaign as top scorer in La Liga with 26 goals, narrowly edging out David Villa.Even better was to come in the Champions League, as Barcelona overcame Arsenal 2-1 in Paris to lift the trophy. In what was an eventful final for Eto'o, he was brought down early in the game by Gunners' goalkeeper Jens Lehmann, who was subsequently shown a red card. With his side trailing 1-0, Eto'o then scored the equaliser 14 minutes from time before an extra-time winner by future Blue Juliano Belletti secured the trophy for the Spanish side.
After a brilliant season, Eto'o came third in the FIFA World Player of the Year award voting, with club team-mate Ronaldinho winning the prize and Frank Lampard finishing as runner-up.
His goals-to-games ratio remained impressive for the next two seasons at Barcelona, and he ended his time at the club in spectacular fashion, scoring the opening goal as Barcelona beat Manchester United 2-0 in Rome to win another Champions League, completing the treble in the process. His five-year spell at the Camp Nou had yielded a remarkable 152 goals in 232 appearances.
In the summer of 2009, Eto'o swapped Spain for Italy, making the switch from Barcelona to Inter Milan in a deal which saw Zlatan Ibrahimovic move in the opposite direction.
Under the guidance of Mourinho, who was Inter manager at the time, Eto'o enjoyed a fruitful first season at the San Siro, scoring on his Serie A debut from the penalty spot in a 1-1 draw against Bari and going on to enjoy a productive time in front of goal.
He was also on target with the only goal of the game when Inter won 1-0 at Stamford Bridge in the knockout stages of the Champions League, sealing a 3-1 aggregate victory for the Italian side on their way to lifting the trophy courtesy of a 2-0 win against Bayern Munich in the final.
Eto'o completed the full 90 minutes in the showpiece fixture and picked up a winners' medal in the competition for the third time in his career, while also achieving the unique feat of winning the treble in successive seasons with different teams, after Inter had won both the domestic title and Italian Cup.
His second and final season at Inter saw Eto'o flourish. He scored a memorable Champions League hat-trick against Werder Bremen and signed off with a brace as they beat Palermo 3-1 in the Italian Cup final.
Eto'o ended his two-year spell at Inter having scored 53 goals in 102 appearances.
In August 2011, it was announced that Eto'o had signed for Russian side Anzhi Makhachkala, and the striker began in style, much like at his two previous clubs, by scoring on his debut in a game against FC Rostov.
As has been the case throughout his career, Eto'o, who was handed the Anzhi captaincy, scored regularly during his time in Russia, with his last goal for the club coming in a 1-1 draw against Kryliya Sovetov in July.
On the international stage, Eto'o has been a regular in the Cameroon side for many years after making his international debut the day before he turned 15. At only 17 years old he was part of the national squad which travelled to France for the 1998 World Cup, where he was the youngest player in the tournament.
Four years later he scored the winning goal as Cameroon secured their only victory of the 2002 World Cup by beating Saudi Arabia.
Eto'o is the all-time leading goalscorer in the Africa Cup of Nations, and as well as tasting success at both the 2000 and 2002 tournaments, he was part of the Cameroon team which won gold at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney.
He also captained Cameroon at the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and scored in matches against Denmark and the Netherlands, although his goals were unable to prevent them from suffering elimination at the group stage.
His most recent goals for the national side came in Cameroon's World Cup qualifying win over Togo back in March, when he netted a brace in a 2-1 win.
He is a four-time winner of the African Player of the Year Award.
Post by: lefty on August 29, 2013, 10:37:59 AM
ETO'O SIGNS
http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3441538/title/etoo-signs
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Posted on: Thu 29 Aug 2013
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Samuel Eto'o from Anzhi Makhachkala.
The 32-year-old has signed a one-year contract and on finalising the transfer he said: 'I am very happy to be here but also anxious because .....
He is a four-time winner of the African Player of the Year Award.
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Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 29, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
Post by: Flex on August 29, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
Jose have so much midfielders what will happen now.
Then he wants to sign strikers and he killing off the decent ones like Demba Ba and Romelu Lukaku. He only play one striker most of the times.
Not to impress with Schürrle and De Bruyne, but I am sure they will come in better.
Mata and Luiz is two boss players, I hope he dont sell them.
Look at midfielders, Hazard, Essien, Ramierz, Mata, Oscar, Moses, Willian, Lampard, Mikel, Ginkel, Schürrle and De Bruyne....
Dam..
Post by: Peong on August 29, 2013, 12:55:40 PM
Post by: triniairman on August 29, 2013, 12:56:30 PM
Flex, I guess money can't buy everything after all ;D
Finally, Chelski could have all the fire power they want, but at the end of the day, results is all that matters. So keep playing that wack defensive style of football and we will see how much titles you all hold at the end of the season.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 29, 2013, 01:38:17 PM
Mourinho goin for the treble this year boy. Man have 1 squad for the league and another for CL.
Man eh peep de card yet. JM going for every available trophy just watch. It starting tomorrow with Bayern!
Post by: Bitter on September 28, 2013, 07:11:37 AM
Post by: chelsealife on September 28, 2013, 07:25:24 AM
Post by: Bitter on September 28, 2013, 07:25:56 AM
Now we know what's coming. Defend until the final whistle.
Post by: Bitter on September 28, 2013, 07:28:20 AM
Torres was beastly in dis second half
Roid rage. :devil:
Post by: chelsealife on September 28, 2013, 07:36:06 AM
Post by: Bakes on September 28, 2013, 12:39:49 PM
The ref don't have the benefit of the slow motion replay. But that was a bad call on the Red for Torres.
Now we know what's coming. Defend until the final whistle.
Elbow never seemed to make contact anywhere neare to Vertonghen's head. Disgraceful part is that both of them grab they head as though they got hurt. Vertonghen even lie down and roll around for a while.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15ao0x_%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%BC%CF%84%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%BB%CF%83%CE%B9-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%B3%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1-%CE%BFurmatch-net_animals
Post by: Bakes on September 30, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
Post by: lefty on September 30, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
Sturridge and Lukaku... shithongs. Surplus to requirements.steup I doh know what this club really want nah....Lukaku perform preseason and they still ship him off and buy Etoo and never give sturridge ah real chance....Lakaku may simply decide to leave steups.......meanwhile we labourin for goals
Post by: Bakes on September 30, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
Post by: lefty on October 01, 2013, 07:13:00 AM
What's funny in all of that is that while Lukaku get shunted to the wings, Torres, who score a grand total of 12 goals (or something so) in 2 1/2 years, finally showed a modicum of interest on Saturday, and the 'Special' genius... as ah see somebody say on FB, feteing him and ready to anoint he head with oil lol
SMH >:(
Post by: Bakes on October 01, 2013, 08:05:05 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 01, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
Post by: lefty on October 01, 2013, 10:51:01 AM
Lukaku was never surpluss. Jose was not going to keep 4 strikers beyond the transfer window. Arsenal were all set and loan papers were awaiting Jose signature for Ba to be loaned out. Once Arsenal landed Ozil, Jose changed his mind about loaning them Ba. Everton wanted Lukaku on loan, not Ba so Lukaku wen, as Jose believes he will manage just fine with Etoo, Torres and Ba and Lukaku will get constant first team action as opposed to inconsistently had he stayed. there is a method to the madness. As fans many may not agree with it but it is the reason nontheless. getting regular 1st XI action is the same reason why Moses is with Liverpool now on loan.
may be so, but the on loan and sold strikers wukkin and the ones we keep still off dey step.......50m million dollar man should be written off as a loss and be done with it.........we wasting time....he does always start to look "back to himself" then proceed to fizzle out as d season progresses...........
Post by: Bakes on October 01, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
Lukaku was never surpluss. Jose was not going to keep 4 strikers beyond the transfer window. Arsenal were all set and loan papers were awaiting Jose signature for Ba to be loaned out. Once Arsenal landed Ozil, Jose changed his mind about loaning them Ba. Everton wanted Lukaku on loan, not Ba so Lukaku wen, as Jose believes he will manage just fine with Etoo, Torres and Ba and Lukaku will get constant first team action as opposed to inconsistently had he stayed. there is a method to the madness. As fans many may not agree with it but it is the reason nontheless. getting regular 1st XI action is the same reason why Moses is with Liverpool now on loan.
Nah dred, if he wasn't surplus to requirements he'd be kicking ball fuh Chelsea right now, end ah story. He brought Eto'o on near the close of the window in part because he didn't have confidence in Lukaku... who he sent to Everton the very next day. So he preferred Eto'o to Lukaku. How is that NOT him being surplus to requirements?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 01, 2013, 01:51:48 PM
Lukaku was never surpluss. Jose was not going to keep 4 strikers beyond the transfer window. Arsenal were all set and loan papers were awaiting Jose signature for Ba to be loaned out. Once Arsenal landed Ozil, Jose changed his mind about loaning them Ba. Everton wanted Lukaku on loan, not Ba so Lukaku wen, as Jose believes he will manage just fine with Etoo, Torres and Ba and Lukaku will get constant first team action as opposed to inconsistently had he stayed. there is a method to the madness. As fans many may not agree with it but it is the reason nontheless. getting regular 1st XI action is the same reason why Moses is with Liverpool now on loan.
Nah dred, if he wasn't surplus to requirements he'd be kicking ball fuh Chelsea right now, end ah story. He brought Eto'o on near the close of the window in part because he didn't have confidence in Lukaku... who he sent to Everton the very next day. So he preferred Eto'o to Lukaku. How is that NOT him being surplus to requirements?
He wanted Rooney. That didn't work out so he bought Eto'o. Eto'o gives him a proven striker that he worked with before and knows can execute whatever directive is laid out for him. Therefore he is automatically #1. Lukaku going to Everton only evolved because of the Ba situation changing at the last minute. If anyone else wanted Ba he would have been the one to go and Lukaku would still be in Chelsea blue. So it was a matter of circumstance more tan anything else. You making it out as if Lukaku was always going which is not the case at all. In fact Lukaku was among the last tranfers anounced so , if it was about a lack of confidence then WBA who wanted him for a second term would have gotten him before Everton had any chance to come in offering a higher fee. Moses was surplus. Look at how early on that was announced and arranged.
Post by: Bakes on October 01, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
He wanted Rooney. That didn't work out so he bought Eto'o. Eto'o gives him a proven striker that he worked with before and knows can execute whatever directive is laid out for him. Therefore he is automatically #1. Lukaku going to Everton only evolved because of the Ba situation changing at the last minute. If anyone else wanted Ba he would have been the one to go and Lukaku would still be in Chelsea blue. So it was a matter of circumstance more tan anything else. You making it out as if Lukaku was always going which is not the case at all. In fact Lukaku was among the last tranfers anounced so , if it was about a lack of confidence then WBA who wanted him for a second term would have gotten him before Everton had any chance to come in offering a higher fee. Moses was surplus. Look at how early on that was announced and arranged.
Nah I not even looking into all ah dat... I more concerned with the bottom line. Jose brought in Eto'o because in your words "Eto'o gives him a proven striker that he worked with before and knows can execute whatever directive is laid out for him." Not sure how that is any from me saying that Mourinho didn't have confidence in Lukaku being able to give him what he wanted in those areas. Why didn't he keep Lukaku on transfer day? That is what it boils down to. He thought he had enough in Ba, Eto'o and Torres... Lukaku wasn't going to get any run... he was surplus. So rather than sell him, he was sent back out on loan. But bottom line is they had too many strikers at that point and Lukaku was odd man out, no matter how you spin it. Doesn't matter if Mourinho arrived at that decision earlier on in the process (as he apparently did with Moses) or if he only make up he mind last minute.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 01, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
Post by: Bakes on October 04, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
Hoss at the end of the day Lukaku's move was a matter of circumstance as Mou was never going to keep 4 strikers. If Wenger din play fass an sign Ozil den dis wouldn be no discussion. Had anyone else wanted Ba then he was gone and not Lukaku. If yuh argument is about whether Lukaku would have been first choice then it's obvious he wasn't going to be that this early in the season. In the end is better for him that he at Everton right now because if Ba went to Arsenal Lukaku minutes would still have been limited.
Lukaku loan is Everton's gain
by John Brewin (ESPN FC)
Bucharest, Monday evening, and Jose Mourinho abruptly takes his leave of a news conference.
"You have spoken about [Juan] Mata for three weeks," he says. "Now you're asking about Kevin [De Bruyne]. You are impressed with the players who are not playing."
A couple of hours later at Goodison Park and Romelu Lukaku has destroyed Newcastle United by half-time. Mourinho could rather do with such a striker, but here is another question to be asked at peril: Why is Lukaku with Everton and not Chelsea?
Indeed, chief among the reasons for Mourinho's flounce was his concern that Fernando Torres was facing a lengthy ban for his unsportsmanlike pawing of Tottenham defender Jan Vertonghen's face, a fear later proved unfounded by the vagaries of the Football Association's flaccid "retrospective punishment" policy.
With Samuel Eto'o yet to work off the possibly terminal torpor of two years at Anzhi Makhachkala, and Demba Ba becoming Stamford Bridge's invisible man, Torres' recent return to form is timely. The knee injury sustained on Tuesday is not as serious as first thought; the Spaniard will most probably be back after the international break. Still, he could do with a bit of support.
Meanwhile, Chelsea's loan is Everton's gain. Lukaku's Newcastle brace followed a match-winning header at West Ham. Goodison has a new hero; Roberto Martinez has pulled off a masterstroke.
But why would Mourinho let Lukaku go? The accepted truth among insiders is simplicity itself: Mourinho does not share others' high admiration for the player. The Belgian's preseason performances were not to the manager's approval, despite a winning goal against Roma in Washington DC in the final match of the US tour.
As Mata has discovered, tracking back and working hard in defence are a minimum Mourinho requirement. Lukaku's last kick as a Chelsea player came in missing the penalty in Prague that cost his club the Super Cup, but the Blues boss is believed to have been far more annoyed by the Belgian's defensive laxity as Bayern Munich swarmed over the dying embers of extra time.
Mourinho made it a personal mission to land Wayne Rooney, and the subsequent failure turned him further against his strikers. Torres is barely shiftable given his vast wages and the embarrassment a low-value sale would cause to Roman Abramovich; Ba is viewed, fatally, as a Rafa Benitez signing, and not of sufficient quality; Eto'o arrived as an afterthought when it was clear Rooney would not be coming.
Indeed, Ba would likely have been plying his trade on loan at Arsenal had the Gunners met Chelsea's £3 million loan fee. Mourinho later claimed Arsenal's landmark signing of Mesut Ozil led him to block the loan at the last minute, but Lukaku would have been retained had the Ba move been completed. Instead, Lukaku was allowed to move to Merseyside.
When the news came that Mourinho was prepared to let him go, a disappointed Lukaku was on Belgium duty, and Kevin Mirallas is said to have been key in persuading him to join Everton. The winger sat with Lukaku in his hotel room before the deal was completed in the final hour of the transfer window. At Upton Park, it was Mirallas who supplied the cross for Lukaku's winner. Without first-team football, a place in Belgium's first World Cup finals since 2002 could not be guaranteed; Christian Benteke is coach Marc Wilmots' first choice as lone striker.
Lukaku is now at a club where his talents are appreciated and a necessity; Everton desperately required someone to supplant the ailing Nikica Jelavic, and Martinez is more likely to indulge his rawness. Last season's loan at West Brom was considered successful, with 17 goals scored, yet Steve Clarke, Mourinho's former assistant, only started him in 20 Premier League games. Pragmatist Clarke usually preferred the discipline of Shane Long to start, before Lukaku was launched as an impact sub. A fruitful policy, but suggestive that a starting place at Chelsea could hardly be expected.
In Belgium, the concern is rather more for De Bruyne, criticised publicly by Mourinho in Bucharest before that sharp exit. A Facebook page that translates as "Jose, what is your problem with Kevin De Bruyne?" has over 30,000 likes. Lukaku's treatment has been pinpointed by a wider suspicion of the Chelsea manager, who also has Eden Hazard under his charge. Hazard, whose dedication to defence has hardly ever been fanatical, may yet be the next in the Fastidious One's sights.
Lukaku has a reputation as Didier Drogba minor, helped in no small part by the elder man taking him under his wing during the 2011-12 season they spent together at Stamford Bridge. Lukaku made just one Premier League start, scoring no goals in Drogba's swan song, but the pair bonded. "Only those who don't take a penalty never miss and you were strong enough to do it," Drogba's Instagram page sympathised when his 20-year-old protege missed in Prague.
Yet there are distinct differences. When Drogba joined Chelsea at 26 in 2004, he was approaching the finished article -- his goals had helped Marseille to reach the UEFA Cup final the previous season. Even then, he had to follow the Mourinho doctrine, defend from the front, hold shape. Drogba played with the knowing hunger of a late developer, having not signed a professional contract until he was 21.
Lukaku has been a pro from the age of 16. Since making his debut for Anderlecht in 2009, he has been regarded as a player most likely to. Mourinho is not a coach to pander to those who exhibit an air of entitlement; star quality is little use without industry. The likes of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Eto'o were made to toil and sacrifice themselves at Inter. Lukaku can only become a Mourinho player if he shows similar dedication, though, this being Chelsea, by the time his loan ends and he returns, there is always the possibility that he might be working under a different coach entirely.
Until then, he is an Everton player, an arrangement that suits both club and player. Just beware of asking Mourinho about it.
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/9898?cc=5901
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 04, 2013, 02:30:08 PM
Indeed, Ba would likely have been plying his trade on loan at Arsenal had the Gunners met Chelsea's £3 million loan fee. Mourinho later claimed Arsenal's landmark signing of Mesut Ozil led him to block the loan at the last minute, but Lukaku would have been retained had the Ba move been completed. Instead, Lukaku was allowed to move to Merseyside.
Weird how this repeats the same thing I've said all along
Post by: Bakes on October 04, 2013, 03:16:10 PM
Indeed, Ba would likely have been plying his trade on loan at Arsenal had the Gunners met Chelsea's £3 million loan fee. Mourinho later claimed Arsenal's landmark signing of Mesut Ozil led him to block the loan at the last minute, but Lukaku would have been retained had the Ba move been completed. Instead, Lukaku was allowed to move to Merseyside.
Weird how this repeats the same thing I've said all along
...and weird how all of it repeats everything I've been saying all along (and what is plainly obvious), Mourinho, whatever his motivation, considered him surplus to requirements. This wasn't simply a case of "oh shit, we have too much strikers... leh we loan somebody." Mourinho had little faith in Lukaku ("He brought Eto'o on near the close of the window in part because he didn't have confidence in Lukaku... "), the article (if it is to be believed) bears that out... JM didn't think he was productive enough, and wasn't enamored of his defensive effort.
Post by: Bitter on October 06, 2013, 07:56:26 AM
Some fella name Bo? By? Ba! Yeah a fella name Ba playing up front.
Post by: Bitter on October 06, 2013, 08:14:46 AM
Norwich went from looking more likely to score, to losing convincingly in the space of 5 minutes.
I'm not a big fan of Mourinho, and I wouldn't say that the change of system made the goals. But at least it was a positive adjustment.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 07, 2013, 07:32:27 AM
Indeed, Ba would likely have been plying his trade on loan at Arsenal had the Gunners met Chelsea's £3 million loan fee. Mourinho later claimed Arsenal's landmark signing of Mesut Ozil led him to block the loan at the last minute, but Lukaku would have been retained had the Ba move been completed. Instead, Lukaku was allowed to move to Merseyside.
Weird how this repeats the same thing I've said all along
...and weird how all of it repeats everything I've been saying all along (and what is plainly obvious), Mourinho, whatever his motivation, considered him surplus to requirements. This wasn't simply a case of "oh shit, we have too much strikers... leh we loan somebody." Mourinho had little faith in Lukaku ("He brought Eto'o on near the close of the window in part because he didn't have confidence in Lukaku... "), the article (if it is to be believed) bears that out... JM didn't think he was productive enough, and wasn't enamored of his defensive effort.
"Romelu Lukaku has claimed it was his wish to leave Chelsea on loan and insisted Jose Mourinho should not be criticised for sanctioning the move to Everton. Towards the end of the summer transfer window Chelsea scoured the market for a new striker, eventually settling on Samuel Eto’o. Despite Eto’o’s arrival Chelsea remained light in the attacking department, so it came as a surprise when the Blues sent Lukaku on loan to Everton. Lukaku has made a blistering start to life at Everton. He bagged two goals in the win over Newcastle on Monday. His form for the Toffees has led to questions about why Mourinho let the Belgium international leave on a season-long loan. During his press conference on Friday, Mourinho said he had no regrets about the decision to allow Lukaku to leave.
And now the forward has waded in, saying it was his wish to move, per Chris Bascombe of the Daily Telegraph. "I did not know if I would be playing for Chelsea so I asked the manager to let me leave," Bascombe quoted Lukaku as saying. "We spoke and I told him." It appears Lukaku’s move was fuelled by his desire to nail down a spot in the Belgium national side ahead of next summer’s World Cup in Brazil.
Speaking to the Daily Telegraph, Lukaku said:
"I could have stayed and fought, but it was not about the competition. When you are a 20-year-old you need minutes. I lost my place in the national team because I did not play for a year with Chelsea. I want that position back. I want to be in a top team and play. You only get better if you play so the best thing was to leave."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1799258-romelu-lukaku-says-he-wanted-to-leave-chelsea-so-dont-blame-jose-mourinho (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1799258-romelu-lukaku-says-he-wanted-to-leave-chelsea-so-dont-blame-jose-mourinho)
Surpluss my ass, the man requested his move. If Ba had gone to Arsenal that move was likely to be denied. It have nothing to do with faith in or lack thereof. But I'm sure yuh go rinse and repeat yuh argument even though it not founded in reality lol
Post by: Bakes on October 07, 2013, 10:48:00 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 07, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
You fall on yuh blasted head or what? The man state clearly he did not know if he would be playing, Suarez requested a move away from Liverpool and how that turn out? Modric did the same at Spurs and Rooney at United. What de ass yuh really talking about he requested move? He didn't ask for a transfer, he asked to be loaned out so he could get more run and have a chance to play international ball. If Mourinho didn't want to send him on loan he would NOT have sent him on loan. Period. The fact that he did means that he thought the players he was retaining were better or enough, individually or in aggregate to compensate for whatever Lukaku had to offer. In other words, he did not need Lukaku. However yuh try to spin it to try and be right... if he did not NEED the player, then clearly he was "surpluss" to Mourinho's needs.
Not related, they asked to be sold and to be sold to direct rivals for CL spots. Not the same by any stretch. Suarez was never worried about his position in the starting XI. Levy has always been an asshole so anything to do with Spurs and transfer need an asterix next to it. As I see it the man ST position for Chelsea was up for grabs. Despite knowing and trusting Eto'o he hasn't been playing in the same calibre of league so time to settle would be needed, Torres has ben good in Europe and poor in the EPL, Lukaku was good at WB last season and yet they are no where near the same type of outfit with the same aspirations. Therefore in order to be a first pick it would have had to be earned. The man make the smart move and ask to get loaned out and end up on a team where he is first choice. You keep harping on whether Jose rated him or not, but rating him and having complete confidence in him is 2 different things. You feel he doh rate Mata, Luiz, DeBruyne, etc, too? Come on fella yuh arguing nonsense. Yuh argument about surpluss is crap. If Lukaku took the same tact as Ba he would have his opportunities to earn his spot. He chose another route and Jose grant him his request because as manager he know he can make it work. If Torres had asked to go instead of Lukaku yuh think Torres wouldn't be gone now? Instead he said from day 1 I will fight for my place "I am a Chelsea player." Is all about choices and Jose don't like malcontents. Why would he have kept him?
Post by: Bakes on October 07, 2013, 08:54:46 PM
Not related, they asked to be sold and to be sold to direct rivals for CL spots. Not the same by any stretch. Suarez was never worried about his position in the starting XI. Levy has always been an asshole so anything to do with Spurs and transfer need an asterix next to it. As I see it the man ST position for Chelsea was up for grabs. Despite knowing and trusting Eto'o he hasn't been playing in the same calibre of league so time to settle would be needed, Torres has ben good in Europe and poor in the EPL, Lukaku was good at WB last season and yet they are no where near the same type of outfit with the same aspirations. Therefore in order to be a first pick it would have had to be earned. The man make the smart move and ask to get loaned out and end up on a team where he is first choice. You keep harping on whether Jose rated him or not, but rating him and having complete confidence in him is 2 different things. You feel he doh rate Mata, Luiz, DeBruyne, etc, too? Come on fella yuh arguing nonsense. Yuh argument about surpluss is crap. If Lukaku took the same tact as Ba he would have his opportunities to earn his spot. He chose another route and Jose grant him his request because as manager he know he can make it work. If Torres had asked to go instead of Lukaku yuh think Torres wouldn't be gone now? Instead he said from day 1 I will fight for my place "I am a Chelsea player." Is all about choices and Jose don't like malcontents. Why would he have kept him?
I convince you smoking yes... after this I done. LFC (John Henry in particular) make it clear that Suarez wasn't going nowhere. Of course if Madrid came in with 50 mil they would have sold him. Finances and not the player was going to dictate the move. This is where the analogy gets lost on you. You saying/implying that Lukaku asked to be loaned out so Mourinho had no choice but to grant the request because he didn't want to keep a malcontent. I show you clear examples of where being a malcontent don't mean a team has to give in to a player's wishes. Instead of seeing the forest in the analogy, you eh even seeing de trees... your head down in de weeds talking about direct CL rival and what not. None of that matters for purposes of the analogy. Malcontents... demand transfers... teams didn't budge... end of.
Next you talking about me "harping on whether Jose rated" Lukaku or not. I dunno, this is about the tenth time ah posting basically de same argument so possibly I talk about Jose rating him, but ah doubt it... and too lazy to go check. Me eh say nutten about Jose rating him. Ah say whatever he was offering, Jose thought he had the same if not better in Ba/Eto'o/Torres.
...yuh hitting Miami or what?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 08, 2013, 08:39:25 AM
Not related, they asked to be sold and to be sold to direct rivals for CL spots. Not the same by any stretch. Suarez was never worried about his position in the starting XI. Levy has always been an asshole so anything to do with Spurs and transfer need an asterix next to it. As I see it the man ST position for Chelsea was up for grabs. Despite knowing and trusting Eto'o he hasn't been playing in the same calibre of league so time to settle would be needed, Torres has ben good in Europe and poor in the EPL, Lukaku was good at WB last season and yet they are no where near the same type of outfit with the same aspirations. Therefore in order to be a first pick it would have had to be earned. The man make the smart move and ask to get loaned out and end up on a team where he is first choice. You keep harping on whether Jose rated him or not, but rating him and having complete confidence in him is 2 different things. You feel he doh rate Mata, Luiz, DeBruyne, etc, too? Come on fella yuh arguing nonsense. Yuh argument about surpluss is crap. If Lukaku took the same tact as Ba he would have his opportunities to earn his spot. He chose another route and Jose grant him his request because as manager he know he can make it work. If Torres had asked to go instead of Lukaku yuh think Torres wouldn't be gone now? Instead he said from day 1 I will fight for my place "I am a Chelsea player." Is all about choices and Jose don't like malcontents. Why would he have kept him?
I convince you smoking yes... after this I done. LFC (John Henry in particular) make it clear that Suarez wasn't going nowhere. Of course if Madrid came in with 50 mil they would have sold him. Finances and not the player was going to dictate the move. This is where the analogy gets lost on you. You saying/implying that Lukaku asked to be loaned out so Mourinho had no choice but to grant the request because he didn't want to keep a malcontent. I show you clear examples of where being a malcontent don't mean a team has to give in to a player's wishes. Instead of seeing the forest in the analogy, you eh even seeing de trees... your head down in de weeds talking about direct CL rival and what not. None of that matters for purposes of the analogy. Malcontents... demand transfers... teams didn't budge... end of.
Next you talking about me "harping on whether Jose rated" Lukaku or not. I dunno, this is about the tenth time ah posting basically de same argument so possibly I talk about Jose rating him, but ah doubt it... and too lazy to go check. Me eh say nutten about Jose rating him. Ah say whatever he was offering, Jose thought he had the same if not better in Ba/Eto'o/Torres.
...yuh hitting Miami or what?
No choice?! You have a comprehension problem? He asked and Mo granted his request based on: 1. the fact that he never wanted to keep 4 strikers to start with, 2. he doesn't like to keep players who don't want to work for their position, 3. Lukaku hasn't had the burden of attempting to lead a team as big as Chelsea from the front. Therefore he would have to put his head down and really work to impress the boss to get that spot and since he didn't want to take that route Jose CHOSE to grant his request. It is not exactly the same as handing in a transfer request and publicly saying I want to go so not sure why you feel that fits when it is off. If none of that (being sold to CL and domestic league rivasl mattered) the Ba would have been wearing Arsenal colors. So think again because it does matter. Your analogy also fails because Saurez going into the season was still your most prolific and best all around scoring option. Therefore it would have been foolish to sell him without a clear replacement lined up. So malcontent or not Rogers did the wise thing to keep him where he was and not bow to Suarez. Quite different with Lukaku. He has the tools and physique to be even better than Drogba was for us but he isn't there yet. Last season he was a sub at West Brom that played great but Shane Long was still in front. Lukaku would come on with fresh legs and destroy the opposition with his skill, strength and pace. He whether rated or not (on paper) was not our strongest scoring option. If you sick in yuh head and think he is a better class of Striker than either Eto'o or Torres then you must be on one. As for your last point about rating and confidence Lukaku isn't proven in an outfit with such high aspiarations as a team like Chelsea. Despite the thin numbers Torres is great in Europe and plays very well even when he doesn't score. Eto'o is also a proven big time striker even better than Torres. Ba is really the odd man out but Lukaku want to be in he WC starting XI so he needed guaranteed first team work and getting it. Now he has a true chance to pressure the coach into whether he worth it ahead of Benteke.
Doh worry Chelsea will come out of this shining and prove that loaning him out was to both our benefit when next season rolls around.
Still up in de air, I does jess jump up lass minute and comandeer ah buddy pass and go so stay tuned. More dan likely ah go end up dong dey as ah on de cast fuh ah few events that DJs does does fight up with each other to play for 5 minutes in lol.
Post by: Bakes on October 08, 2013, 10:46:18 AM
We go link.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 08, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
All dat noise to say that Lukaku didn't want to fight fuh spot, unproven, Torres and Eto'o and Ba better... he was the fourth man in a 3 man striker rotation. Fifth wheel... odd man out. Surplus to requirements.
We go link.
Nah Ba eh better fella lol. Ba is a decent striker but since joining de big team he eh sayin nutten. He does make promising runs but they yeild no result. Jose woulda love to offlaod he becaw he done tink Raffa is ah shittong an is Raffa bring he een lol.
Post by: lefty on October 08, 2013, 10:53:52 AM
All dat noise to say that Lukaku didn't want to fight fuh spot, unproven, Torres and Eto'o and Ba better... he was the fourth man in a 3 man striker rotation. Fifth wheel... odd man out. Surplus to requirements.
We go link.
Nah Ba eh better fella lol. Ba is a decent striker but since joining de big team he eh sayin nutten. He does make promising runs but they yeild no result. Jose woulda love to offlaod he becaw he done tink Raffa is ah shittong an is Raffa bring he een lol.
Rafa teams doh threaten to lull yuh to sleep doh :( :P
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 08, 2013, 10:56:56 AM
All dat noise to say that Lukaku didn't want to fight fuh spot, unproven, Torres and Eto'o and Ba better... he was the fourth man in a 3 man striker rotation. Fifth wheel... odd man out. Surplus to requirements.
We go link.
Nah Ba eh better fella lol. Ba is a decent striker but since joining de big team he eh sayin nutten. He does make promising runs but they yeild no result. Jose woulda love to offlaod he becaw he done tink Raffa is ah shittong an is Raffa bring he een lol.
Rafa teams doh threaten to lull yuh to sleep doh :( :P
Agreed. I think Jose is working on improving that though. He wants (probably Roman's orders) a complete team that great in all areas. That is why he challenged Mata to do more. It ha no question Mata great up in attack but Jose also want team defense. I think as the season progresses (and at least one of our strikers get the scoring itch) it will start to bear fruit.
Post by: Bitter on October 19, 2013, 09:44:07 AM
Post by: Peong on October 19, 2013, 10:11:57 AM
Post by: lefty on October 19, 2013, 10:37:53 AM
Breathing down Liverpool neck.still not convincin doh...but ah go take it.....we have to ketch Man U at d top....no wait :-\.................
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 19, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
Breathing down Liverpool neck.still not convincin doh...but ah go take it.....we have to ketch Man U at d top....no wait :-\.................
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: doc on October 19, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
Post by: elan on October 19, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
The referee and his assistant blew the call on Chelsea's first goal... It was a foul by Eto'o
How so? ??? ???
Post by: Bakes on October 19, 2013, 10:26:10 PM
The referee and his assistant blew the call on Chelsea's first goal... It was a foul by Eto'o
How so? ??? ???
Goalkeeper releases the ball to punt it upfield, he's still considered to be in possession of the ball and you can't take it away from him.
From the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/19/chelsea-cardiff-city-premier-league):
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According to Fifa's Laws of the Game – 12.16, a goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball even while bouncing it and any attempt by an opposition player to take it away from him should be "punished by a direct free-kick".
Post by: elan on October 20, 2013, 09:43:39 AM
The referee and his assistant blew the call on Chelsea's first goal... It was a foul by Eto'o
How so? ??? ???
Goalkeeper releases the ball to punt it upfield, he's still considered to be in possession of the ball and you can't take it away from him.
From the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/19/chelsea-cardiff-city-premier-league):QuoteAccording to Fifa's Laws of the Game – 12.16, a goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball even while bouncing it and any attempt by an opposition player to take it away from him should be "punished by a direct free-kick".
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Offences committed by goalkeepers
A goalkeeper is not permitted to keep control of the ball in his hands for more
than six seconds. A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball:
• while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface
(e.g. ground, own body)
• while holding the ball in his outstretched open hand
• while in the act of bouncing it on the ground or tossing it into the air
When a goalkeeper has gained possession of the ball with his hands, he cannot
be challenged by an opponent.
A goalkeeper is not permitted to touch the ball with his hand inside his own
penalty area in the following circumstances:
• if he handles the ball again after it has been released from his possession
and has not touched any other player:
– the goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball by touching
it with any part of his hands or arms except if the ball rebounds
accidentally from him, e.g. after he has made a save
– possession of the ball includes the goalkeeper deliberately parrying the
ball
• if he touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to
him by a team-mate
• if he touches the ball with his hands
Yeah, I know that application of the Law, one of which I have contention with as there are many grey areas in there. Mind you I am a supporter of protecting the goalkeeper, however, to me some of these rules conflict with each other.
Post by: Bakes on October 20, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
Yeah, I know that application of the Law, one of which I have contention with as there are many grey areas in there. Mind you I am a supporter of protecting the goalkeeper, however, to me some of these rules conflict with each other.
None of those rules conflict with the one I posted though... he was in the process of dribbling the ball in preparation to kick it upfield. From your post:
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• while in the act of bouncing it on the ground or tossing it into the air
Rookie officiating error... pub league level actually, by Taylor.
Post by: Blue on October 20, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
Rookie officiating error... pub league level actually, by Taylor.
It was the linesman's fault, not the ref's. He consulted his linesman who told him that the keeper had dropped the ball to his feet (as opposed to bouncing it). The linesman clearly didnt see either
Post by: Bakes on October 20, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
It was the linesman's fault, not the ref's. He consulted his linesman who told him that the keeper had dropped the ball to his feet (as opposed to bouncing it). The linesman clearly didnt see either
What was there to consult about? If it's even close the spirit of the rule requires you to whistle for an infringement. That sort of thing might be okay in a pick up game, but for my part has no part in the professional game.
Post by: elan on October 20, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
It was the linesman's fault, not the ref's. He consulted his linesman who told him that the keeper had dropped the ball to his feet (as opposed to bouncing it). The linesman clearly didnt see either
What was there to consult about? If it's even close the spirit of the rule requires you to whistle for an infringement. That sort of thing might be okay in a pick up game, but for my part has no part in the professional game.
As per Ryan though, the lines man view is that he dropped the ball, the laws does not cover that....and well the spirit of the law :-\
Post by: Bakes on October 20, 2013, 07:44:13 PM
As per Ryan though, the lines man view is that he dropped the ball, the laws does not cover that....and well the spirit of the law :-\
Take a look at the replay at 1:13 thereabouts... tell me what part of that looks like he dropped the ball.
http://www.youtube.com/v/0BmzxZUii-8
I understand that's not your argument (Mackay confirmed that both officials were in agreement that he dropped the ball, that if he was bouncing it and Eto'o did what he did then that would be a foul), but I don't understand how they could both miss such an obvious call.
Post by: Peong on October 20, 2013, 09:02:37 PM
Post by: Bitter on October 22, 2013, 01:37:09 PM
Post by: Bitter on October 27, 2013, 10:35:11 AM
Bad Torres 1 - Good Torres 1
Terrible Miss, Excellent cross.
Post by: Sam on October 27, 2013, 11:00:58 AM
Post by: Bitter on October 27, 2013, 11:05:53 AM
Post by: Bitter on October 27, 2013, 11:09:38 AM
Don't worry Torres. Assists are the new goals.
Aguero: No, goals are the new goals.
Post by: lefty on October 27, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: Bitter on October 27, 2013, 11:52:29 AM
Post by: jai john on October 28, 2013, 10:20:15 AM
Is this the end of the beautiful game as we know it ? dangerous happenings are taking place worldwide which threatens weekend enjoyment and even the right to attend football matches. What if a man made disaster happened in a world cup environment with such an international audience and with those wanting maximum publicity ? it always seems to be centured around racism as I am sure many of us are noticing is creeping back into the game of football.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/5610/mysterious-circles/2013/10/28/4364588/mysterious-figures-at-chelsea?ICID=HP_HN_2Another stadium was visited by strange guests over the weekend, with 11 hooded onlookers causing a stir at Stamford Bridge on Sunday
Post by: jai john on October 28, 2013, 10:24:50 AM
Post by: FF on October 28, 2013, 10:27:13 AM
Post by: Bitter on November 02, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
Post by: Bitter on November 09, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
Post by: Bakes on November 09, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
Saved by the ref!
No talk of the dive by Ramirez? He clearly threw himself into Reid to draw the contact then fell, turned around and appealed for a penalty. I'm surprised people don't talk more about this aspect of his game.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on November 09, 2013, 05:25:51 PM
Saved by the ref!
No talk of the dive by Ramirez? He clearly threw himself into Reid to draw the contact then fell, turned around and appealed for a penalty. I'm surprised people don't talk more about this aspect of his game.
I used to like Ramires as a player but I am fed up of his constant fouling and diving. So it go sometimes. With him, Neymar and Dani Alves, Brazil going to "win" real penalties next summer.
Post by: Dumplingdinho on November 09, 2013, 07:04:52 PM
Saved by the ref!
No talk of the dive by Ramirez? He clearly threw himself into Reid to draw the contact then fell, turned around and appealed for a penalty. I'm surprised people don't talk more about this aspect of his game.
yeah he does overdo it. Chelsea is luckiest team when it comes to ghost penalties. I feel them rub off on Ramires, he wasnt on the diving scene but i noticed since last season he hitting the ground real quick. his game has changed.
Post by: Bakes on November 09, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
Post by: Sam on November 17, 2013, 09:59:43 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 18, 2013, 09:49:07 AM
I feel Chelsea should go in for Chicharito. Man Utd killing de man.
I like that idea. He is a poacher extrodianaire!
Post by: lefty on November 26, 2013, 03:47:58 PM
Post by: palos on November 26, 2013, 03:55:47 PM
how in d hell Mata cyar get no run on this side steups
Because Mata and Oscar does play same position and Oscar has been Chelsea's best player (and one of the best in the EPL) this season.
Post by: elan on December 01, 2013, 12:13:55 PM
Post by: lefty on December 01, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
Shyte game, yet still able to walk away winners.
true
Post by: Bitter on December 07, 2013, 11:01:32 AM
Post by: lefty on December 14, 2013, 09:37:52 AM
Post by: Cocorite on December 14, 2013, 09:50:39 AM
Post by: elan on December 14, 2013, 10:42:31 AM
The Man City-Arsenal game making it hard to watch this Chelsea game, boy.
What Man City-Arsenal game? I saw Man City had a training session this morning. They looked good in that session.
Post by: lefty on December 14, 2013, 10:57:28 AM
The Man City-Arsenal game making it hard to watch this Chelsea game, boy.
yeah..... I doh know, d russian shoulda probably hold on to Rafa.....Jose not inspiring mih......it goh be pressure at arsenal if dey can't get dey shit together.
Post by: Blue on December 14, 2013, 03:21:42 PM
The Man City-Arsenal game making it hard to watch this Chelsea game, boy.
yeah..... I doh know, d russian shoulda probably hold on to Rafa.....Jose not inspiring mih......it goh be pressure at arsenal if dey can't get dey shit together.
Rafa, Jose, whoever. We not winning a title until we have a striker. Time to draw a line under this Torres project.
I think City will win the title this season by at least 8 points.
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Rafa, Jose, whoever. We not winning a title until we have a striker. Time to draw a line under this Torres project.
I think City will win the title this season by at least 8 points.
A telling stat, if I heard correctly... is that they trailed Arsenal by 9 pts at this point two seasons ago when they eventually won it all. Lot more defensive questions this season though.
Post by: elan on December 14, 2013, 05:10:05 PM
The Man City-Arsenal game making it hard to watch this Chelsea game, boy.
yeah..... I doh know, d russian shoulda probably hold on to Rafa.....Jose not inspiring mih......it goh be pressure at arsenal if dey can't get dey shit together.
Rafa, Jose, whoever. We not winning a title until we have a striker. Time to draw a line under this Torres project.
I think City will win the title this season by at least 8 points.
We have strikers, we lacking consistent quality service, especially on the wing. We have no true game changer.
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2013, 05:20:33 PM
We have strikers...
Yeah... they just playing for other teams ;D
Post by: elan on December 16, 2013, 01:54:04 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 23, 2013, 10:44:58 PM
This is why I wasn't happy with the return of the special one. That performance was worthy of Di Matteo. Negative football by one of the most expensive sides in the world. Practical? Yes, but we could have kept Rafa for that.
If i want to see Stoke or Sunderland play, I'll watch them.
Post by: lefty on December 24, 2013, 05:52:15 AM
Just finish watching this game.
This is why I wasn't happy with the return of the special one. That performance was worthy of Di Matteo. Negative football by one of the most expensive sides in the world. Practical? Yes, but we could have kept Rafa for that.
If i want to see Stoke or Sunderland play, I'll watch them.
true boy......ting is when d team get ah chance to express dey self dey does look good, den two goals goh score and jus so shop close Ancelotti have the offensive and defensive records and in d same year an' do dat was with ah mourinho side. d caution getting overbearing now.
Post by: Flex on December 24, 2013, 07:32:42 AM
Just finish watching this game.
This is why I wasn't happy with the return of the special one. That performance was worthy of Di Matteo. Negative football by one of the most expensive sides in the world. Practical? Yes, but we could have kept Rafa for that.
If i want to see Stoke or Sunderland play, I'll watch them.
I really cannot stand the way Jose coaches. I can't believe Chelsea brought this guy back. Rafa was wayy better...
Post by: elan on December 24, 2013, 10:47:30 AM
Just finish watching this game.
This is why I wasn't happy with the return of the special one. That performance was worthy of Di Matteo. Negative football by one of the most expensive sides in the world. Practical? Yes, but we could have kept Rafa for that.
If i want to see Stoke or Sunderland play, I'll watch them.
true boy......ting is when d team get ah chance to express dey self dey does look good, den two goals goh score and jus so shop close Ancelotti have the offensive and defensive records and in d same year an' do dat was with ah mourinho side. d caution getting overbearing now.
:bs: utter :bs:
Arsenal had 61% of the possession, but only 2 shots on target. What were they doing with all that possession. Chelsea did not park the bus. Again buying in to these useless English commentator. Chelsea was by no means were gong ho, but neither was Arsenal. Arsenal showed no creativity, nothing enterprising, or tried anything different. They as much as Chelsea played to not lose look at the highlight they belonged to Chelsea. It was a practical game for both teams as should have been expected. Chelsea is still what 2 points from the top and Arsenal 1.
Give me a freaking break already. If you criticize them for not enough flair fine, but Arsenal had no flair and that is what they are supposedly known for.
Post by: Cocorite on December 24, 2013, 10:56:32 AM
Post by: lefty on December 24, 2013, 11:11:02 AM
Just finish watching this game.
This is why I wasn't happy with the return of the special one. That performance was worthy of Di Matteo. Negative football by one of the most expensive sides in the world. Practical? Yes, but we could have kept Rafa for that.
If i want to see Stoke or Sunderland play, I'll watch them.
true boy......ting is when d team get ah chance to express dey self dey does look good, den two goals goh score and jus so shop close Ancelotti have the offensive and defensive records and in d same year an' do dat was with ah mourinho side. d caution getting overbearing now.
:bs: utter :bs:
Arsenal had 61% of the possession, but only 2 shots on target. What were they doing with all that possession. Chelsea did not park the bus. Again buying in to these useless English commentator. Chelsea was by no means were gong ho, but neither was Arsenal. Arsenal showed no creativity, nothing enterprising, or tried anything different. They as much as Chelsea played to not lose look at the highlight they belonged to Chelsea. It was a practical game for both teams as should have been expected. Chelsea is still what 2 points from the top and Arsenal 1.
Give me a freaking break already. If you criticize them for not enough flair fine, but Arsenal had no flair and that is what they are supposedly known for.
a couple we lost this season were lost "tryin not to loose" it had games dat we win......where we coulda more than pad up the goal difference and jus close up.......say whey yuh want we should have tested Man U more than we did. frikkin mid-table side scentin blood an' pushin manu, but we bein cautious steups...............rafa was many things but never boring..............jose need to loosen up
Post by: Bakes on December 24, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
:bs: utter :bs:
Arsenal had 61% of the possession, but only 2 shots on target. What were they doing with all that possession. Chelsea did not park the bus. Again buying in to these useless English commentator. Chelsea was by no means were gong ho, but neither was Arsenal. Arsenal showed no creativity, nothing enterprising, or tried anything different. They as much as Chelsea played to not lose look at the highlight they belonged to Chelsea. It was a practical game for both teams as should have been expected. Chelsea is still what 2 points from the top and Arsenal 1.
Give me a freaking break already. If you criticize them for not enough flair fine, but Arsenal had no flair and that is what they are supposedly known for.
Arsenal had 'no flair' because Mourinho picked a side designed to deny them room to express themselves with such flair. Add to which Giroud muffed the one true chance he had, and Cech denied him the other. Credit to Chelsea's defense, but criticizing Arsenal for lacking offensive potency does not in any way address the fact that Mourinho came to play anti-football... just as he threatened to do. You are the only man I have seen anywhere arguing that Chelsea didn't park the bus when that is precisely what they did. You trying to tell me that a side with Mikel, Willian, Ramirez and Lampard in midfield, Torres up top by himself and Cahill and Terry at center backs, that that team came to play for a win? gtfoh
Post by: elan on December 24, 2013, 05:46:35 PM
:bs: utter :bs:
Arsenal had 61% of the possession, but only 2 shots on target. What were they doing with all that possession. Chelsea did not park the bus. Again buying in to these useless English commentator. Chelsea was by no means were gong ho, but neither was Arsenal. Arsenal showed no creativity, nothing enterprising, or tried anything different. They as much as Chelsea played to not lose look at the highlight they belonged to Chelsea. It was a practical game for both teams as should have been expected. Chelsea is still what 2 points from the top and Arsenal 1.
Give me a freaking break already. If you criticize them for not enough flair fine, but Arsenal had no flair and that is what they are supposedly known for.
Arsenal had 'no flair' because Mourinho picked a side designed to deny them room to express themselves with such flair. Add to which Giroud muffed the one true chance he had, and Cech denied him the other. Credit to Chelsea's defense, but criticizing Arsenal for lacking offensive potency does not in any way address the fact that Mourinho came to play anti-football... just as he threatened to do. You are the only man I have seen anywhere arguing that Chelsea didn't park the bus when that is precisely what they did. You trying to tell me that a side with Mikel, Willian, Ramirez and Lampard in midfield, Torres up top by himself and Cahill and Terry at center backs, that that team came to play for a win? gtfoh
:bs: Bakes, so Chelsea is supposed to make Arsenal job easier? I came you are now learning the game the idea is to make it as difficult for the opposing team to score. Did arsenal field a team that made it easy for Chelsea to run at them. No
What a soft excuse, Chelsea did not GIVE them the room to play :rotfl: If Arsenal is that good, then break Chelsea down.
Post by: Bakes on December 24, 2013, 06:17:55 PM
:bs: Bakes, so Chelsea is supposed to make Arsenal job easier? I came you are now learning the game the idea is to make it as difficult for the opposing team to score. Did arsenal field a team that made it easy for Chelsea to run at them. No
What a soft excuse, Chelsea did not GIVE them the room to play :rotfl: If Arsenal is that good, then break Chelsea down.
You are completely missing the point... either deliberately so, or despite your best efforts. No, Chelsea is not supposed to make it easy for them to play. Let's use simple language so that even you could follow along. Your focus is on criticising Arsenal's lack of offensive punch. That is a separate issue from whether Chelsea played "negative" defensive-minded football. Simple enough so far? The discussion started with Bitter's post about Chelsea playing negative ("Stoke or Sunderland") football. Following so far? See, no mention of how Arsenal played. In fact, if Arsenal was so poor as you claim, then there would be no need for Chelsea to play in a limited defensive shell, would there? Good.
So continuing...
Yes, the idea it to make it difficult for the other team to score. Really good teams figure out how to do this without sacrificing positive, attacking football. At his best Mourinho was able to achieve this with past Chelsea teams. I believe he came and tried to do the same again, but realized the limitations of his team following losses to Stoke and Sunderland. You are here arguing for the sake of arguing, especially when Mourinho himself predicted how he might set the strategy going forward:
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"We may have to take a step back in order to be more consistent at the back," the Portuguese manager said after Chelsea's surprise Capital One Cup exit at Sunderland on Tuesday evening. "It's something I don't want to do, to play more counterattacking, but I'm giving it serious thought. If I want to win 1-0, I think I can, as I think it's one of the easiest things in football. It's not so difficult, as you don't give players the chance to express themselves."
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/18/jose-mourinho-chelsea-tactics-results-football
So yes, argue that Arsenal were inept if you want, but don't be so disingenuous as to argue that Chelsea did anything but play cautious, boring, counter-attacking football.
Post by: elan on December 29, 2013, 06:41:58 PM
Post by: Bitter on January 19, 2014, 10:10:39 AM
1-0 ;D
Post by: Bitter on January 19, 2014, 10:16:54 AM
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 19, 2014, 10:19:50 AM
Post by: Bitter on January 19, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
We will crush them!1-02-0 ;D
Post by: lefty on January 19, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
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Post by: lefty on January 19, 2014, 12:25:44 PM
Post by: elan on January 19, 2014, 12:28:11 PM
good win...but ah hate how jose closin shop wit all kinda 25min left in games .......d way tings going GD could be a factor and mancity have dat on lock down right now.
Yuh 3-0 up at home, should you be foolhardy and keep pushing it. I don't think he closed up shop, he just shore up the middle and then introduce Torres. You always knew Man United would score, that was not a surprise. I think it was a very good game by Jose.
Post by: lefty on January 19, 2014, 12:43:41 PM
good win...but ah hate how jose closin shop wit all kinda 25min left in games .......d way tings going GD could be a factor and mancity have dat on lock down right now.
Yuh 3-0 up at home, should you be foolhardy and keep pushing it. I don't think he closed up shop, he just shore up the middle and then introduce Torres. You always knew Man United would score, that was not a surprise. I think it was a very good game by Jose.
yes .......Man u was chasing d game.......we were lucky because united started better .....but, again..Man u was chasing d game..............man u scored while we were winding down on attack anyways..........so why ease off?
Post by: Blue on January 22, 2014, 05:03:56 PM
:banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
Post by: elan on January 23, 2014, 10:32:12 PM
Chelsea have announced that they have reached an agreement with FC Basel for Mohamed Salah.
Liverpool have been chasing a deal for the 21-year-old, who can also play in midfield, for several months, but they are set to lose out on the Egypt international.
A statement on the Blues' official website read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm an agreement has been reached with FC Basel for the transfer of their 21-year-old attacking midfielder Mohamed Salah.
"The move is subject to the Egyptian international agreeing personal terms and completing a medical examination."
Basel are thought to have been seeking around 12 million pounds for Salah, and Chelsea were in a position to put in a higher offer for him as they prepare to sell Juan Mata to Manchester United for 37 million pounds.
It appears increasingly unlikely that Reds boss Brendan Rodgers will add to his squad before the transfer window shuts at the end of January.
Asked on Thursday about the prospect of bringing in Salah or anyone else, Rodgers said: “Nothing as of yet. There have obviously been targets that we have looked at, but there’s nothing imminent.”
Salah struck the equaliser when the Swiss champions earned a 2-1 win at Chelsea in the Champions League on Sept. 18 and then got the only goal in a 1-0 victory at home to Jose Mourinho’s side on Nov. 26.
However, Basel failed to make it through the group and dropped into the Europa League, in which they will play Maccabi Tel Aviv over two legs in February.
Post by: lefty on January 26, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
pool v arsenal should be interesting too
Post by: Bitter on January 26, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
:thinking:
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Post by: lefty on January 26, 2014, 01:19:36 PM
City vs Chelsea...ent :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:thinking:
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Post by: lefty on January 29, 2014, 05:33:14 PM
Post by: elan on January 29, 2014, 05:37:25 PM
why we sell mata again ???............steups, jose second coming......jus raisin mif pressure
That was some quality play today we exhibited. Even with Mata I don't think we were scoring. If WH had played a bit more open I think easily a 6 nil beating.
Post by: lefty on January 29, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
why we sell mata again ???............steups, jose second coming......jus raisin mif pressure
That was some quality play today we exhibited. Even with Mata I don't think we were scoring. If WH had played a bit more open I think easily a 6 nil beating.
38 shots 9 on target and no true creator to unlock door.......steups please
Post by: Bitter on January 30, 2014, 02:06:07 PM
by Chris | 30th, January 2014
By Chris Wright
Jose Mourinho did his darndest to deflect attention away from his Chelsea side after the failed to register with any of their 39 shots against a defiant West Ham at Stamford Bridge last night.
True, it didn’t make for much of a spectacle, but Sam Allardyce’s Hammers successfully shut up shop from minute one and went on to avoid slumping to their 14th defeat in 17 meetings against the Blues.
Whereas the goalless stalemate was a victory of sorts for West Ham, Mourinho was left frustrated by his team’s failure to make inroads and, as is his wont, duly set about deflecting all the attention away from his troops after the game – passive-aggressively ‘complimenting’ Large Samuel on “getting the point he came for” and playing football from the “19th Century”.
Speaking in his post-match interview, Mourinho said:
“It is very difficult to play a match when only one team wants to play. Football matches are about two teams playing but because West Ham needed points they came here the way they did.
“Is it acceptable? Maybe yes. I don’t want to criticise too much because if I was in their position I don’t know if I would do the same. But at the same time this is not football from the Premier League, the best league in the world, this football from the 19th Century.
“I am happy with my players. Especially in the second half the West Ham goalkeeper saved a lot but also other players without gloves, they saved a lot. They had five defenders who looked more goalkeepers than defenders.”
Yes, this is Jose Mourinho accusing a fellow manager of parking the bus and deliberately playing anti-football. The hypocrisy is strong in this one.
Now, it just so happens that Allardyce was interviewed after Mourinho and was duly informed of the Chelsea manager’s comments, to which he duly replied (as quoted by the Guardian):
“He can’t take it, can he? He can’t take it because we’ve out-tactic-ed him, out-witted him. He just can’t cope.
“He can tell me all he wants. I don’t give a s***e, to be honest.
I love to see Chelsea players moaning at the referee, trying to intimidate the officials, and José jumping up and down in his technical area. It’s great to see.”
“Out-tactic-ed” is a particular favourite. The man’s a genius.
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/chelsea/183920/i-couldnt-give-a-shite-sam-allardyce-reacts-to-jose-mourinhos-passive-aggressive-19th-century-football-jibes.html
Post by: Bakes on January 30, 2014, 02:30:37 PM
Post by: elan on January 30, 2014, 03:38:46 PM
why we sell mata again ???............steups, jose second coming......jus raisin mif pressure
That was some quality play today we exhibited. Even with Mata I don't think we were scoring. If WH had played a bit more open I think easily a 6 nil beating.
38 shots 9 on target and no true creator to unlock door.......steups please
38 shots 9 on target meant that we created, which means we need a goal scorer.
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2014, 01:56:13 PM
City vs Chelsea...
:thinking:
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time to get d bus :D :( :D
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 02:03:58 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 02:20:23 PM
Defend deep, spring the quick counter. This game could do with a Drogba to poison city on one of those counter-attacks.
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2014, 02:27:17 PM
This game could do with a Drogba to poison city on one of those counter-attacks.
ent :(
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 02:30:50 PM
This game could do with a Drogba to poison city on one of those counter-attacks.
ent :(
Like that 4 on 2 breakaway for instance! :cursing:
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
Ivanovic!
Buses and Trucks only
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2014, 02:34:46 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Hazard and Willian are giving City fits.
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2014, 02:49:26 PM
Post by: Flex on February 03, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 02:57:47 PM
Post by: elan on February 03, 2014, 02:59:10 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 03:32:55 PM
Nice so far, but you City and their 2nd half performance. Let's see.
The bus is well parked now.
Post by: FF on February 03, 2014, 03:41:48 PM
Nice so far, but you City and their 2nd half performance. Let's see.
The bus is well parked now.
Oscar coming on... that ent look like a park up move
Ha ha never mind is Eto'o come off ;D tactical sub ;)
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 03:42:51 PM
Nice so far, but you City and their 2nd half performance. Let's see.
The bus is well parked now.
Oscar coming on... that ent look like a park up move
Ha ha never mind is Eto'o come off ;D tactical sub ;)
Take off a forward, put on a midfielder... ::)
Post by: FF on February 03, 2014, 03:44:02 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 03:51:24 PM
Post by: Bakes on February 03, 2014, 03:52:44 PM
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2014, 03:54:18 PM
Post by: elan on February 03, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
When city have the ball, is 9 Chelsea men in they own area. Oscar is there to hold the ball when they get it and relieve the pressure, maybe spring the counter-attack.
That was only in the last 10 minutes.
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
Post by: maxg on February 03, 2014, 03:57:17 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 03, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
When city have the ball, is 9 Chelsea men in they own area. Oscar is there to hold the ball when they get it and relieve the pressure, maybe spring the counter-attack.
That was only in the last 10 minutes.
Nah, it was longer than that.
The first half was too open. Chelsea tighten it up in the 2nd. Whole game there were always at least 6 Chelsea players in the area.
Like I said, brilliant game-plan Mou used City's desire to go forward against them. I wonder if Aguero would have missed all those chances though.
Post by: elan on February 03, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 03, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
Wenger zips up his puffy coat and walks away smiling.
:applause:
Post by: lefty on February 03, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
leh we see how alyuh do against dem, dat might be d differ between d title and noneWenger zips up his puffy coat and walks away smiling.
:applause:
Post by: palos on February 03, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
Other than that, and especially under Mourinho....mostly forgettable football matches.
Chelsea come like de Brigo of football.
Only a mother (fan) could love a face (team) like that. But a force to be reckoned with none the less.
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(http://www.sweetsoca.com/cdcovers/brigo_legendtoremember.jpg)
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 04, 2014, 08:51:56 AM
leh we see how alyuh do against dem, dat might be d differ between d title and noneWenger zips up his puffy coat and walks away smiling.
:applause:
Maybe. I think Chelsea will give us enough chances to put some space between them and Arsenal. Still more worried about City than them.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 04, 2014, 10:27:22 AM
Maybe. I think Chelsea will give us enough chances to put some space between them and Arsenal. Still more worried about City than them.
Just the way we like it. I hope nobody eh scared ah we. That title coming to the Bridge this year, watch and see. People could talk any amount ah shit dey want, but the mor JM gets comfortable with the squad playing the way he likes the more he will let them loose. I doh know what game man was watchin yesterday but it had no bus park nowhere. JM likes his entire team to be defensively aware and that is exactly what occurred. Matic did well to keep the engine under a lot of pressure and we used our pace on the break very well. JM know's MP style so he had the perfect gameplan lined up and went into the mighty Etihad and walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet to boot. Who eh like it fack dem!
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 04, 2014, 12:28:43 PM
Maybe. I think Chelsea will give us enough chances to put some space between them and Arsenal. Still more worried about City than them.
Just the way we like it. I hope nobody eh scared ah we. That title coming to the Bridge this year, watch and see. People could talk any amount ah shit dey want, but the mor JM gets comfortable with the squad playing the way he likes the more he will let them loose. I doh know what game man was watchin yesterday but it had no bus park nowhere. JM likes his entire team to be defensively aware and that is exactly what occurred. Matic did well to keep the engine under a lot of pressure and we used our pace on the break very well. JM know's MP style so he had the perfect gameplan lined up and went into the mighty Etihad and walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet to boot. Who eh like it fack dem!
Who said anything about park bus? I just said I more worried about City than Chelsea. Chelsea was the better side yesterday and deserve their win. I ent say nutten bout that. I just think over a season, City is more dangerous than Chelsea. That's why they have been favourites all year and they have been on our tails or until recently, in first. Chelsea is a good side. I just think that overall, City is better.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 04, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
Maybe. I think Chelsea will give us enough chances to put some space between them and Arsenal. Still more worried about City than them.
Just the way we like it. I hope nobody eh scared ah we. That title coming to the Bridge this year, watch and see. People could talk any amount ah shit dey want, but the mor JM gets comfortable with the squad playing the way he likes the more he will let them loose. I doh know what game man was watchin yesterday but it had no bus park nowhere. JM likes his entire team to be defensively aware and that is exactly what occurred. Matic did well to keep the engine under a lot of pressure and we used our pace on the break very well. JM know's MP style so he had the perfect gameplan lined up and went into the mighty Etihad and walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet to boot. Who eh like it fack dem!
Who said anything about park bus? I just said I more worried about City than Chelsea. Chelsea was the better side yesterday and deserve their win. I ent say nutten bout that. I just think over a season, City is more dangerous than Chelsea. That's why they have been favourites all year and they have been on our tails or until recently, in first. Chelsea is a good side. I just think that overall, City is better.
Nah dah bus tawk was ah general statement not attributed to you. Ah shoulda separate it.
I doh mind dat outlook because city is the only team that raise my eyebrows an dem. No disrespect to your team but with dat brutal month of March schedule allyuh have I eh worryin about allyuh bein ah obstacle to we winnin it.
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
in all honesty...it did roll in for d last 8-10mins of d game...he jus leave room to make raid if space did open up, so it wasn't obvious.Maybe. I think Chelsea will give us enough chances to put some space between them and Arsenal. Still more worried about City than them.
Just the way we like it. I hope nobody eh scared ah we. That title coming to the Bridge this year, watch and see. People could talk any amount ah shit dey want, but the mor JM gets comfortable with the squad playing the way he likes the more he will let them loose. I doh know what game man was watchin yesterday but it had no bus park nowhere. JM likes his entire team to be defensively aware and that is exactly what occurred. Matic did well to keep the engine under a lot of pressure and we used our pace on the break very well. JM know's MP style so he had the perfect gameplan lined up and went into the mighty Etihad and walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet to boot. Who eh like it fack dem!
Who said anything about park bus? I just said I more worried about City than Chelsea. Chelsea was the better side yesterday and deserve their win. I ent say nutten bout that. I just think over a season, City is more dangerous than Chelsea. That's why they have been favourites all year and they have been on our tails or until recently, in first. Chelsea is a good side. I just think that overall, City is better.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 04, 2014, 01:35:45 PM
Maybe. I think Chelsea will give us enough chances to put some space between them and Arsenal. Still more worried about City than them.
Just the way we like it. I hope nobody eh scared ah we. That title coming to the Bridge this year, watch and see. People could talk any amount ah shit dey want, but the mor JM gets comfortable with the squad playing the way he likes the more he will let them loose. I doh know what game man was watchin yesterday but it had no bus park nowhere. JM likes his entire team to be defensively aware and that is exactly what occurred. Matic did well to keep the engine under a lot of pressure and we used our pace on the break very well. JM know's MP style so he had the perfect gameplan lined up and went into the mighty Etihad and walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet to boot. Who eh like it fack dem!
Who said anything about park bus? I just said I more worried about City than Chelsea. Chelsea was the better side yesterday and deserve their win. I ent say nutten bout that. I just think over a season, City is more dangerous than Chelsea. That's why they have been favourites all year and they have been on our tails or until recently, in first. Chelsea is a good side. I just think that overall, City is better.
Nah dah bus tawk was ah general statement not attributed to you. Ah shoulda separate it.
I doh mind dat outlook because city is the only team that raise my eyebrows an dem. No disrespect to your team but with dat brutal month of March schedule allyuh have I eh worryin about allyuh bein ah obstacle to we winnin it.
I think we have an easier run in once we could stay closeto the top thru March. And we will have enough options in midfield to cope. We got through the Group of Death ok. It go be hard but the most I worried about is going to Stamford Bridge. I wouldn't be too upset about getting knocked out of UCL by Bayern. We can go for that next year when we get the top class striker we need. League is my priority this season.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 04, 2014, 01:45:12 PM
I think we have an easier run in once we could stay closeto the top thru March. And we will have enough options in midfield to cope. We got through the Group of Death ok. It go be hard but the most I worried about is going to Stamford Bridge. I wouldn't be too upset about getting knocked out of UCL by Bayern. We can go for that next year when we get the top class striker we need. League is my priority this season.
Allyuh gettin bobolize in de Bridge. Is too bad Moyes strugglin so bad oddawize ah woulda say fear ManU especially after Jose put ah arm rong Moyes shoulder and give him Mata. If we eh win ah wouldn mind seein allyuh misery end but dat eh go be dis year doh lol
Aye Lefty geh yuh eye an dem check please. Who JM deploy to make sure de bus park, Oscar?
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2014, 01:49:56 PM
I think we have an easier run in once we could stay closeto the top thru March. And we will have enough options in midfield to cope. We got through the Group of Death ok. It go be hard but the most I worried about is going to Stamford Bridge. I wouldn't be too upset about getting knocked out of UCL by Bayern. We can go for that next year when we get the top class striker we need. League is my priority this season.
Allyuh gettin bobolize in de Bridge. Is too bad Moyes strugglin so bad oddawize ah woulda say fear ManU especially after Jose put ah arm rong Moyes shoulder and give him Mata. If we eh win ah wouldn mind seein allyuh misery end but dat eh go be dis year doh lol
Aye Lefty geh yuh eye an dem check please. Who JM deploy to make sure de bus park, Oscar?
yes! oscar has good defensive hustle in his game too plus his deployment was a bit lower dan willian not only mickel does sgnal d comin of d bus.......it was just a very well disguised bus
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 04, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
I think we have an easier run in once we could stay closeto the top thru March. And we will have enough options in midfield to cope. We got through the Group of Death ok. It go be hard but the most I worried about is going to Stamford Bridge. I wouldn't be too upset about getting knocked out of UCL by Bayern. We can go for that next year when we get the top class striker we need. League is my priority this season.
Allyuh gettin bobolize in de Bridge. Is too bad Moyes strugglin so bad oddawize ah woulda say fear ManU especially after Jose put ah arm rong Moyes shoulder and give him Mata. If we eh win ah wouldn mind seein allyuh misery end but dat eh go be dis year doh lol
Aye Lefty geh yuh eye an dem check please. Who JM deploy to make sure de bus park, Oscar?
yes!
You musse high oui! Oscar to park bus? Why not Mikel? Oscar could pressure anybody in we half? How much plays Oscar break up this season compared to Mikel or even Matic who now reach? How many times did we get the ball and hoof it downfield without a care which is a trademark of the PTB scheme? Jose execute the perfect foil to City attack and is like man like you vex we walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet oui smh
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2014, 01:58:38 PM
You musse high oui! Oscar to park bus? Why not Mikel? Oscar could pressure anybody in we half? How much plays Oscar break up this season compared to Mikel or even Matic who now reach? How many times did we get the ball and hoof it downfield without a care which is a trademark of the PTB scheme? Jose execute the perfect foil to City attack and is like man like you vex we walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet oui smh
I edit mih post but u done answer....read it again....and I is a chelsea fan...doh get tie up
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 04, 2014, 02:10:27 PM
You musse high oui! Oscar to park bus? Why not Mikel? Oscar could pressure anybody in we half? How much plays Oscar break up this season compared to Mikel or even Matic who now reach? How many times did we get the ball and hoof it downfield without a care which is a trademark of the PTB scheme? Jose execute the perfect foil to City attack and is like man like you vex we walk out with 3 points and a clean sheet oui smh
I edit mih post but u done answer....read it again....and I is a chelsea fan...doh get tie up
Yuh still eh making sense because despite his hustle Oscar doesn't break up anything. He is good at pressuring defenders into mistakes but to say he could help control Yaya, Silva and dem when dem in the mid and advancing is madness. I know yuh is ah fan but you seem like yuh only trying to find fault with JM from since he reach back. What West Ham do we was park the bus what we do yesterday was play to control or limit the effectiveness of certain key players. Matic got the start over Mikel because he is a box to box player. He makes forward passes and can shoot even though his strength is breaking up plays and helping out the defense. If the intent was to park the bus Mikel would have come on for Eto not Oscar.
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2014, 03:32:37 PM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 04, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
I think we have an easier run in once we could stay closeto the top thru March. And we will have enough options in midfield to cope. We got through the Group of Death ok. It go be hard but the most I worried about is going to Stamford Bridge. I wouldn't be too upset about getting knocked out of UCL by Bayern. We can go for that next year when we get the top class striker we need. League is my priority this season.
Allyuh gettin bobolize in de Bridge. Is too bad Moyes strugglin so bad oddawize ah woulda say fear ManU especially after Jose put ah arm rong Moyes shoulder and give him Mata. If we eh win ah wouldn mind seein allyuh misery end but dat eh go be dis year doh lol
Aye Lefty geh yuh eye an dem check please. Who JM deploy to make sure de bus park, Oscar?
We go see bout bobolize. I think it will be a close game but it is the only one we shouldn't be favourites for. We leading the league for a reason.
Post by: Bitter on February 04, 2014, 10:24:35 PM
Quote
"Parking the bus has no relation with the players the manager chooses, it has a relation to how the team plays. You can play with six, seven, eight defensive players and be an attacking team."
-JM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 05, 2014, 10:11:37 AM
In his regular BBC Sport column, Robbie Savage looks at Chelsea's stunning victory over Manchester City.
I was at Etihad Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live on Monday night to see Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho get his tactics spot on, again.
I thought Mourinho would park the bus and concentrate on stifling City and killing the game but, from the start, his side showed plenty of attacking intent.
Chelsea completely controlled the game and carried out his plan to perfection. Man for man, in every department, they were absolutely brilliant.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26025948 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26025948)
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Post by: chelsealife on February 08, 2014, 12:05:45 PM
Post by: elan on February 08, 2014, 01:34:26 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 10, 2014, 10:22:42 AM
Like ah Brand new new Land Rover, powerful and practical while still stylish.
Ah like dat!!
Post by: Tiresais on February 10, 2014, 10:35:24 AM
Like ah Brand new new Land Rover,powerful and practical while still stylishowned by a dodgey character and driven by ego.
:P :p.
Post by: Bitter on February 11, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
We don't have Kolo Toure. How are we tied?
Post by: elan on February 11, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
Some dodgy yellows.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 11, 2014, 04:10:55 PM
WBA played the game backward and deserved that point. As always whenever we can put some space between us and the rest we either draw or lose. Did it all season last season.
Some dodgy yellows.
Not takin away from WBA buh Luiz was supposed to stay in front da man. Yuh done see Cahill limpin an cah jump so he ha to know is on he to make sure da man eh get between he and Cahill. Oh well back to 3rd tomorrow caw Sunderland gettin ah dread sweat and ManUre hopeless!
Post by: palos on February 11, 2014, 06:40:06 PM
Like ah Brand new new Land Rover, powerful and practical while still stylish.Never knew Land Rover does make bus :devil:
Post by: elan on February 11, 2014, 09:08:51 PM
Like ah Brand new new Land Rover, powerful and practical while still stylish.Never knew Land Rover does make bus :devil:
Nah nah we eh park the bus, we come out 2nd half as doh the game over and WBA put they foot up we muffler.
Land Rover testing the bus market. ;D
Post by: Bakes on February 11, 2014, 11:46:45 PM
Never knew Land Rover does make bus :devil:
Nah... but Land Rover owned by Tata now LOL
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 12, 2014, 09:27:26 AM
Post by: lefty on February 15, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
Post by: Bitter on February 15, 2014, 12:44:57 PM
1. Less of a defensive posture by Chelsea (but city scored early, so that was out the window from then)
2. City is playing much more physical.
I think Pelle reminded them that they are a side full of some big strong mofos and they would do wel to remind Chelsea of this fact.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 18, 2014, 11:15:03 AM
The difference between this game and last week.
1. Less of a defensive posture by Chelsea (but city scored early, so that was out the window from then)
2. City is playing much more physical.
I think Pelle reminded them that they are a side full of some big strong mofos and they would do wel to remind Chelsea of this fact.
Jose playing mind games galore. If JM wanted that game he would have sent out a better line up than that. He package that fuh Manny to carry home.
Post by: lefty on February 22, 2014, 08:44:55 AM
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Post by: chelsealife on March 01, 2014, 11:12:15 AM
Post by: Bitter on March 08, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
Dive, followed by a red for Kaboul, who was surprisingly calm, I woulda get sanctioned for referee abuse after that.
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Post by: Bakes on March 08, 2014, 03:38:16 PM
Nice dive by Eto'o. I only give him a 8 for style though.
Dive, followed by a red for Kaboul, who was surprisingly calm, I woulda get sanctioned for referee abuse after that.
I don't know if he's always been guilty of doing this... but is something he's been doing all season and the first time I really take notice. Very disappointed in him as a player for his simulations.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2014, 03:41:48 PM
Nice dive by Eto'o. I only give him a 8 for style though.
Dive, followed by a red for Kaboul, who was surprisingly calm, I woulda get sanctioned for referee abuse after that.
I don't know if he's always been guilty of doing this... but is something he's been doing all season and the first time I really take notice. Very disappointed in him as a player for his simulations.
Does Suarez still player at Liverpool.
Post by: Bakes on March 08, 2014, 03:58:15 PM
Does Suarez still player at Liverpool.
I'm really not sure what your point is... not that you ever have one. All you ever try to do is engage in some kinda tit for tat. Ritalin and Adderall should help with your focus. Suarez hasn't been accused of diving just once in almost two years... and that was against Villa this seaon. Video evidence is inconclusive. The mention of Suarez is misguided for other reasons... more than any other Liverpool fan on this board, and on most others, I have been harshest on Suarez for everything from the Ghana handball, to diving to the controversies with Evra and Ivanovic, so there is no inconsistency on my part. I have been equally critical of Young and Bale for diving and simulation as well.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2014, 04:59:41 PM
Does Suarez still player at Liverpool.
I'm really not sure what your point is... not that you ever have one. All you ever try to do is engage in some kinda tit for tat. Ritalin and Adderall should help with your focus. Suarez hasn't been accused of diving just once in almost two years... and that was against Villa this seaon. Video evidence is inconclusive. The mention of Suarez is misguided for other reasons... more than any other Liverpool fan on this board, and on most others, I have been harshest on Suarez for everything from the Ghana handball, to diving to the controversies with Evra and Ivanovic, so there is no inconsistency on my part. I have been equally critical of Young and Bale for diving and simulation as well.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: davidephraim on March 09, 2014, 06:58:37 PM
Does Suarez still player at Liverpool.
I'm really not sure what your point is... not that you ever have one. All you ever try to do is engage in some kinda tit for tat. Ritalin and Adderall should help with your focus. Suarez hasn't been accused of diving just once in almost two years... and that was against Villa this seaon. Video evidence is inconclusive. The mention of Suarez is misguided for other reasons... more than any other Liverpool fan on this board, and on most others, I have been harshest on Suarez for everything from the Ghana handball, to diving to the controversies with Evra and Ivanovic, so there is no inconsistency on my part. I have been equally critical of Young and Bale for diving and simulation as well.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: davidephraim on March 09, 2014, 07:18:32 PM
Nice dive by Eto'o. I only give him a 8 for style though.
Dive, followed by a red for Kaboul, who was surprisingly calm, I woulda get sanctioned for referee abuse after that.
I don't know if he's always been guilty of doing this... but is something he's been doing all season and the first time I really take notice. Very disappointed in him as a player for his simulations.
Does Suarez still player at Liverpool.
I feel sometimes man does have to fake and dive because people are held to different standards - allow me to explain. This by no means excuses the divers or diving but some of the tackles coming in sometimes seem to be adjudged harder when they are on certain players and then not so for others.
Iniesta, If yuh only touch dat little guy he on de floor and if we ask ourselves here if he's a diver, we might decide not but he still light like a feather to the touch. Shouldn't YaYa get the same foul for the same level of tackle, one that may make Iniesta fall down but not make YaYa budge?
African players and africans in general,can't seem to do anything with skill or tact in the media's eyes - is only brute force & muscle we get credit for which also must mean, we could clearly take more kick than the average Joe . If Serena playing, everybody else hits with such grace and skill/placement but she only seems to be able to hit with power! Maybe man like Eto have to roll around on de ground so that we can continue getting the soft fouls and be treated like world class athletes and not only have the whistle blown for break-foot tackles as was in yester-years. De situation has changed but lingers even to today!
IMO, set the standard the same, fall or not, African or not, Big Scandinavian dude or not, rollin around in agony or not, not rolling around in agony or not. Blow de same for everyone and then I'd fully cry down man like Eto.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 10, 2014, 09:33:49 AM
Intelligent movement by E'too.
Post by: elan on March 10, 2014, 12:33:11 PM
RE: Kaboul/E'too incident
Intelligent movement by E'too.
Quote
'He's not super-fast like he was 10 years ago, so he needs to be close to the goal, he needs his feet in the box and he's very intelligent in the way he moves.
'He scored against Cardiff when the goalkeeper dropped the ball, he scored a goal against West Brom when Ridgewell controlled the ball and he came from behind. Now he reads Vertonghen's mistake. These are fox goals.'
Post by: Bakes on March 10, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
Chelsea 8 yellow cards for simulation since August 2012.
Quote
Contrary to Jose Mourinho’s claims, Chelsea are the side with the most bookings for simulation over the past two seasons. The Blues picked up six bookings last season and have added to that total with a further two this campaign.
http://talksport.com/football/premier-leagues-worst-divers-top-5-worst-clubs-simulation-14010674505?p=4
But let's talk about Luis Suarez, shall we?
Post by: FF on March 10, 2014, 02:00:08 PM
Liverpool 2 yellow cards for simulation since August 2012
Chelsea 8 yellow cards for simulation since August 2012.QuoteContrary to Jose Mourinho’s claims, Chelsea are the side with the most bookings for simulation over the past two seasons. The Blues picked up six bookings last season and have added to that total with a further two this campaign.
http://talksport.com/football/premier-leagues-worst-divers-top-5-worst-clubs-simulation-14010674505?p=4
But let's talk about Luis Suarez, shall we?
All dat mean is Chelsea is the worst performers of a dive ;D
Liverpool is de best at getting away with it
Post by: Bakes on March 10, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
All dat mean is Chelsea is the worst performers of a dive ;D
Liverpool is de best at getting away with it
Well we clearly not that good at it, since Suarez was twice clattered in the box by Eto'o and Oxlade-Chamberlain in games this season and nothing was given.
Post by: Bitter on March 15, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
Nice goal by Delph though, I thought at first that it was a mis-kick, but he meant it.
Post by: elan on March 15, 2014, 01:30:09 PM
Soft red on Willian.
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
Nice goal by Delph though, I thought at first that it was a mis-kick, but he meant it.
The 2nd yellow on Willian was arseness. Look at how Villa win the ball to score and tell me how you compare that to Willian foul.
Also keep in mind that the ref did not book Willian the first time until Ablongahor ran up to him and reminded the ref of the first card that he issued. You can plainly see that Foy was receiving instructions in his ear.
Tough game to lose on refs decision especially after having Villa in bits.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 15, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Post by: elan on March 15, 2014, 02:52:45 PM
Can Chelsea appeal a 2nd yellow sending off? I vaguely recall a rule about that. I mean, I hope he's suspended against Arsenal but I feel the club have grounds for appeal with Willian.
Because it was a 2nd yellow, don't think they can. Say what, the league more interesting now.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 15, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Can Chelsea appeal a 2nd yellow sending off? I vaguely recall a rule about that. I mean, I hope he's suspended against Arsenal but I feel the club have grounds for appeal with Willian.
Because it was a 2nd yellow, don't think they can. Say what, the league more interesting now.
Yeah, wasn't sure about that rule.
Like I said before, nobody is consistent enough to pull away from the pack.
Post by: Bakes on March 15, 2014, 03:09:54 PM
Soft red on Willian.
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
Nice goal by Delph though, I thought at first that it was a mis-kick, but he meant it.
My jaw literally dropped when I saw the replay... what an incredibly nasty tackle. I don't think that's who he is as a player, I accuse him of diving and yes, there's an element of petulance to his game, but to stamp a man going full-pace like that? That is break foot thing. No excuse.
As for the goal... beautiful goal all around. Delph wins the ball, dribbles neatly around two players, plays a one-two to the sideline... then that finish! Sublime, even if a bit lucky.
Post by: Bakes on March 15, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
The 2nd yellow on Willian was arseness. Look at how Villa win the ball to score and tell me how you compare that to Willian foul.
Also keep in mind that the ref did not book Willian the first time until Ablongahor ran up to him and reminded the ref of the first card that he issued. You can plainly see that Foy was receiving instructions in his ear.
Tough game to lose on refs decision especially after having Villa in bits.
To use our favorite quote... :bs:
Villa played Chelsea fairly evenly the entire game... Chelsea didn't have them in "bits" one fart. The yellow was soft, but it was the right call... it was a professional foul. Willian has to be smarter playing on a yellow... Chris Foy set the tone early with a 4' minute yellow card on a Villa defender. He didn't have to show him a yellow, but it was in keeping with how he officiated the entire game.
Post by: elan on March 15, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
The 2nd yellow on Willian was arseness. Look at how Villa win the ball to score and tell me how you compare that to Willian foul.
Also keep in mind that the ref did not book Willian the first time until Ablongahor ran up to him and reminded the ref of the first card that he issued. You can plainly see that Foy was receiving instructions in his ear.
Tough game to lose on refs decision especially after having Villa in bits.
To use our favorite quote... :bs:
Villa played Chelsea fairly evenly the entire game... Chelsea didn't have them in "bits" one fart. The yellow was soft, but it was the right call... it was a professional foul. Willian has to be smarter playing on a yellow... Chris Foy set the tone early with a 4' minute yellow card on a Villa defender. He didn't have to show him a yellow, but it was in keeping with how he officiated the entire game.
Dude we had 70% of the ball at one time and was all over Villa who gave us back the ball in two passes.
Post by: elan on March 15, 2014, 10:36:12 PM
Soft red on Willian.
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
Nice goal by Delph though, I thought at first that it was a mis-kick, but he meant it.
My jaw literally dropped when I saw the replay... what an incredibly nasty tackle. I don't think that's who he is as a player, I accuse him of diving and yes, there's an element of petulance to his game, but to stamp a man going full-pace like that? That is break foot thing. No excuse.
As for the goal... beautiful goal all around. Delph wins the ball, dribbles neatly around two players, plays a one-two to the sideline... then that finish! Sublime, even if a bit lucky.
Did you see the tackle on Ramires to cough up the ball? So much for the ref keeping consistent in how he reffed the game.
Post by: palos on March 15, 2014, 11:15:40 PM
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
This is a characteristic of Mourinho coached teams. They are a reflection of their coach and when they getting their asses kicked, the players resort to nastiness.
Real Madrid used to do it all the time when dey was getting WAX from Barca. Same ting when he was Inter coach.
He's a repulsive lil f**ker.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 16, 2014, 06:09:37 AM
Post by: elan on March 16, 2014, 09:47:04 AM
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
This is a characteristic of Mourinho coached teams. They are a reflection of their coach and when they getting their asses kicked, the players resort to nastiness.
Real Madrid used to do it all the time when dey was getting WAX from Barca. Same ting when he was Inter coach.
He's a repulsive lil f**ker.
Palos that show that you really don't get Mourinho and understand what he do.
Post by: Toppa on March 16, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
This is a characteristic of Mourinho coached teams. They are a reflection of their coach and when they getting their asses kicked, the players resort to nastiness.
Real Madrid used to do it all the time when dey was getting WAX from Barca. Same ting when he was Inter coach.
He's a repulsive lil f**ker.
Palos that show that you really don't get Mourinho and understand what he do.
Oh please, I agree with Palos and I back Madrid.
Post by: elan on March 16, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Self-destruct button pressed by Ramires. What was that tackle all about?
This is a characteristic of Mourinho coached teams. They are a reflection of their coach and when they getting their asses kicked, the players resort to nastiness.
Real Madrid used to do it all the time when dey was getting WAX from Barca. Same ting when he was Inter coach.
He's a repulsive lil f**ker.
Palos that show that you really don't get Mourinho and understand what he do.
Oh please, I agree with Palos and I back Madrid.
So what, that eh say nutten. There was no self destruct you all buying in to these reports and commentary to easily. Willian sending off had nutten to do with Chelsea and had everything to do with very poor officiating. What does that have to do with Mourinho? A ref decides to give a 2nd yellow on a routine foul and a 1st after an opposing player hassle him? So what Chelsea should have stopped tackling? Tackle how? Look at all Benteke tackles. And again I point to the tackle on Ramires that cough up the ball that led to the goal. Where was the ref consistency on that.
Ramires always play on the edge, always. That eh nutten new. All these holier than thou jumping up about nasty tackle, because it suit them now.
It doesn't matter to me that we lost, after the 67 minute I knew we weren't going to win and most likely would have lost on a goal (actually I won a burrito from qdobas on that bet that we would lose 1-0).
Post by: Bakes on March 16, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
... And again I point to the tackle on Ramires that cough up the ball that led to the goal. Where was the ref consistency on that.
You's a frigging joke yes. The play happens right at the very start of this clip. Ramires was dispossessed... nothing at all wrong about that. He's ah man love to fall and roll around whenever he feel he get fouled. Very telling then that he got up right away and started chasing after the ball. You could tell if a player is fouled, or thinks he gets fouled by how he reacts... Ramires never raised a hand in complaint/protest to the ref. Clean play.
http://www.youtube.com/v/lGBfWbyxV0o
Post by: elan on March 16, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
... And again I point to the tackle on Ramires that cough up the ball that led to the goal. Where was the ref consistency on that.
You's a frigging joke yes. The play happens right at the very start of this clip. Ramires was dispossessed... nothing at all wrong about that. He's ah man love to fall and roll around whenever he feel he get fouled. Very telling then that he got up right away and started chasing after the ball. You could tell if a player is fouled, or thinks he gets fouled by how he reacts... Ramires never raised a hand in complaint/protest to the ref. Clean play.
http://www.youtube.com/v/lGBfWbyxV0o
Exactly what Willian did (from behind pushing Ramires aside) except he did not get the ball, which is a foul. Not a yellow.
Post by: elan on March 16, 2014, 05:08:54 PM
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Post by: Bakes on March 16, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
Exactly what Willian did (from behind pushing Ramires aside) except he did not get the ball, which is a foul. Not a yellow.
The two plays not even similar... in one instance you have a player dwelling on the ball and he get bodied off the ball, hard to tell, but looks like the defender poked the ball free first. In the other you have a player running with the ball, and a defender who comes from behind and fouls to stop the break. I agree that the yellow was harsh, especially for it to result in a sending off, but the two plays are not at all similar in my book. I mean, nobody else on that field appealed for a foul on the Ramirez play.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 17, 2014, 08:57:43 AM
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Bakes you really thought Villa was playing us evenly? You must have been watching another game. Up until Wilian sending off we was all over Villa. The only thing they were excellent at was holding their defensive line.
All over dem with what, possession? Doh believe me... believe de stats:
Villa Chelsea
4 Shots On Target 2
6 Shots Off Target 7
3 Blocked Shots 6
4 Corners 5
14 Fouls 8
71% Pass Completion % 81%
43% Tackle Success % 17%
44% Possession % 56%
Post by: elan on March 17, 2014, 01:03:24 PM
Bakes you really thought Villa was playing us evenly? You must have been watching another game. Up until Wilian sending off we was all over Villa. The only thing they were excellent at was holding their defensive line.
All over dem with what, possession? Doh believe me... believe de stats:
Villa Chelsea
4 Shots On Target 2
6 Shots Off Target 7
3 Blocked Shots 6
4 Corners 5
14 Fouls 8
71% Pass Completion % 81%
43% Tackle Success % 17%
44% Possession % 56%
Where you get those stats?
Here you saying Villa played us straight up, yet you saying that pool killed Man United when this was the stats from the pool v. MU game
Liverpool Man United
7 (4 of which after the red) Shots On Target 1
18 Shots Off Target 13
12 Fouls 13
38 Tackles 31
51 Possession % 49%
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2014, 01:09:19 PM
Where you get those stats?
Squawka (http://epl.squawka.com/aston-villa-vs-chelsea/15-03-2014/english-barclays-premier-league/matches)... and ah didn't even want tuh embarrass allyuh by mentioning that the top three players of the match were all Villa players, or that the overall performance score over the entire match was Villa 234- Chelsea 80
If yuh eh like those, try de Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/football/match/2014/mar/15/aston-villa-v-chelsea)stats...
Aston Villa Chelsea
Possession
38% 62%
Goal attempts
13 15
On target
4 2
Off target
9 13
Corners
4 5
Fouls
14 6
Offsides
3 7
Or de BBC (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26493266)...
Chelsea Villa
Possession
61% 39%
Shots
13 15
On target
4 2
Corners
4 5
Fouls
14 8
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2014, 01:32:01 PM
Here you saying Villa played us straight up, yet you saying that pool killed Man United when this was the stats from the pool v. MU game
Liverpool Man United
7 (4 of which after the red) Shots On Target 1
18 Shots Off Target 13
12 Fouls 13
38 Tackles 31
51 Possession % 49%
I don't recall making any kinda comment or how the teams played... but regardless, Liverpool played Man U off the pitch yesterday. Stats don't paint the complete picture, but even the stats support that notion:
Liverpool forced 7 saves, United force 1.
Liverpool score 3 goals, United score 0
Liverpool easily could have had two more penalties given, both for fouls on Sturridge.
Just from penalties and legitimate penalty shouts Liverpool created 5 scoring chances, United 0
You don't think that is dominance, or playing all over a team? Chelsea didn't even create more chances or force more saves than Villa... in fact, Cech was the busier of the two goalkeepers. I really not sure what your argument is.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 17, 2014, 02:39:34 PM
Bakes you really thought Villa was playing us evenly? You must have been watching another game. Up until Wilian sending off we was all over Villa. The only thing they were excellent at was holding their defensive line.
All over dem with what, possession? Doh believe me... believe de stats:
Villa Chelsea
4 Shots On Target 2
6 Shots Off Target 7
3 Blocked Shots 6
4 Corners 5
14 Fouls 8
71% Pass Completion % 81%
43% Tackle Success % 17%
44% Possession % 56%
Before the sending off. Not after when we had to chase them all over. You really pretending Villa looked like they could win that game before the sending off? Steups ah kno yuh biased and all buh yuh gone beyond bullshit with that if so.
Post by: elan on March 17, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
Here you saying Villa played us straight up, yet you saying that pool killed Man United when this was the stats from the pool v. MU game
Liverpool Man United
7 (4 of which after the red) Shots On Target 1
18 Shots Off Target 13
12 Fouls 13
38 Tackles 31
51 Possession % 49%
I don't recall making any kinda comment or how the teams played... but regardless, Liverpool played Man U off the pitch yesterday. Stats don't paint the complete picture, but even the stats support that notion:
Liverpool forced 7 saves, United force 1.
Liverpool score 3 goals, United score 0
Liverpool easily could have had two more penalties given, both for fouls on Sturridge.
Just from penalties and legitimate penalty shouts Liverpool created 5 scoring chances, United 0
You don't think that is dominance, or playing all over a team? Chelsea didn't even create more chances or force more saves than Villa... in fact, Cech was the busier of the two goalkeepers. I really not sure what your argument is.
Bakes you joking....you have the gall to come here and boastfully talk about Sturridge diving? You cannnot be serious.
Chelsea created many, many chances, what they did not do well was the final pass (shot on goal). We placed ourselves in position to shoot but we for some reason did not.
Liverpool at half time only had 2 shots on target and Man United had 1. Talk about dominance. The thing is Liverpool got 2 Pks which was the difference (that being the 2 shots on goal). Liverpool then had 1 shot on target before Vidic got sent off. Your stats is as even with Man United, yet you saying you played them off the park.
We had 70% possession at half time. What do you think Aston Villa was doing at that time. Come on be real. Yes you all dominated Man United, the stats however does not reflect that. Just as we dominated Villa but the SCORE does not reflect that.
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2014, 04:13:09 PM
Bakes you joking....you have the gall to come here and boastfully talk about Sturridge diving? You cannnot be serious.
Chelsea created many, many chances, what they did not do well was the final pass (shot on goal). We placed ourselves in position to shoot but we for some reason did not.
Liverpool at half time only had 2 shots on target and Man United had 1. Talk about dominance. The thing is Liverpool got 2 Pks which was the difference (that being the 2 shots on goal). Liverpool then had 1 shot on target before Vidic got sent off. Your stats is as even with Man United, yet you saying you played them off the park.
We had 70% possession at half time. What do you think Aston Villa was doing at that time. Come on be real. Yes you all dominated Man United, the stats however does not reflect that. Just as we dominated Villa but the SCORE does not reflect that.
You's ah kinda f**king ass or what? Where do you see me "boastfully talking about Sturridge 'diving'"? Sturridge dove ONCE, was flat out tripped by Carrick in the box and pulled down by Rooney on the endline, IN THE BOX and nothing was called. The point being that he was in a threatening position IN THE BOX yuh imps. You making it seem as though Liverpool only started pressuring United after Vidic got sent off in the 77'... at that point we had 9 shots already, all but one from inside the final 3rd. The lone exception was Suarez' attempted lob in the 54'. After the sending off we only attempted 5 shots... we pressured them less with shots. Looking at the United heat map they hardly spend any time in our third... the exceptions being taking two right-sided corner kicks, and a couple chances crossing the ball from that area. Other than that they hardly get a sniff with the ball at their feet from 35 yards in. Liverpool in the mean time have considerably more of a presence inside the final third (numerous red areas, versus none for United in LFC's 3rd). You's the only fool saying Liverpool did not dominate United... not even Man U fans arguing that point.
Now onto Chelsea... look at Chelsea's heat map and you'll see they spend the majority of time in their own defensive 3rd, then along the left side line and to a much lesser extent, a couple possessions about 10 yards from the left corner flag. Hardly a presence in a threatening position... which is to say inside the box. Looking at Villa's heat map and it's the same thing... most of their time was spent in their own box, then defending along the Chelsea left side, their right side. Where did these imaginary scoring opportunities that you mention come from... because they not showing up in the stats? Scoring opportunities aside, Villa outshot Chelsea, forced more saves and defended better. The only area Chelsea was markedly better was in possession.
Before the sending off. Not after when we had to chase them all over. You really pretending Villa looked like they could win that game before the sending off? Steups ah kno yuh biased and all buh yuh gone beyond bullshit with that if so.
You's ah next one can't read or what? Yuh gone from asking if ah really thought Villa play allyuh even... to not asking if I really thought Villa coulda win de game. Where did I ever say that I thought Villa coulda win the game? Point is Chelsea didn't look like they would win the game either... not based on how they was playing. With the quality they have you fully expected them to pull off some 'nother last-minute thing, but they hardly threatened Villa all day. 2 saves is all Guzan had to make... compared to 4 for Cech.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 18, 2014, 08:29:51 AM
Post by: elan on March 18, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
We were out shot, yes, but when did those shot come? After the sending off. It's funny you can understand that in Liverpool game but not ours. Funny.....hmmm. You using total shots, I am dealing with shots on goal. At half time Liverpool had 2, from 2 PKs. Man United had 1. Your shots on target in the run of play came after Vidic was sent off.
Dude Chelsea was all over Villa and for a long time Villa was parked in front their goal. Their back line stayed put throughout the game. Just like Liverpool had Man United in bits, but the stats don't reflect that.
See when you are coaching a team, stats is only part of your decision making. A major part of the decision making is the eye test. See Chelsea heat map could say we expend lots of energy in our defensive 1/3, but what it may not tell you is that it came after being down a man.
I'll use an example, the US U17 men's team vs Honduras WCQ. The USA lost 3-1 to Honduras first time ever and did not qualify for the WC. The Pro Zone stats told them that the AM was the player who gave up possession the most, what the stats did not show was that he was the player who was attempting to play the entry pass or take players on to create opportunities (the best player out there). The best player of the game according to ProZone for the US, only played the 1st half.
Stats is great and all, but you have to use stats in contrast or in comparisons to what you see in the game. Ask AVB how those stats working out for him.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
... Ask AVB how those stats working out for him.
They have him heading to Russia at an interesting time.
Post by: elan on March 18, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
... Ask AVB how those stats working out for him.
They have him heading to Russia at an interesting time.
Yeah, not bad. But because of his nature I thought he would have looked to Italy or Spain as his next stop.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2014, 12:21:10 PM
... Ask AVB how those stats working out for him.
They have him heading to Russia at an interesting time.
Yeah, not bad. But because of his nature I thought he would have looked to Italy or Spain as his next stop.
I doubt it was his preference.
Post by: Bakes on March 18, 2014, 12:49:14 PM
I can't see playing evenly to mean anything other than both teams appear to be evenly match giving both equal chance to win. Feel free to clarify how what you stated should be interpreted.
I'm saying that because of Chelsea's quality and reputation of late of pulling out late wins... one fully expected that they would eventually score. HOWEVER, based on what they actually showed during the game, they never looked threatening... save for the handball goal. Apparently you and Elan saw a different game.
See you have to understand football beyond the commentary and the stats. Chelsea created opportunities to score, they did not score, as I said they did not execute the final pass (the shot) therefore no stats. Stats don't measure the means, just the ends.
We were out shot, yes, but when did those shot come? After the sending off. It's funny you can understand that in Liverpool game but not ours. Funny.....hmmm. You using total shots, I am dealing with shots on goal. At half time Liverpool had 2, from 2 PKs. Man United had 1. Your shots on target in the run of play came after Vidic was sent off.
Dude Chelsea was all over Villa and for a long time Villa was parked in front their goal. Their back line stayed put throughout the game. Just like Liverpool had Man United in bits, but the stats don't reflect that.
See when you are coaching a team, stats is only part of your decision making. A major part of the decision making is the eye test. See Chelsea heat map could say we expend lots of energy in our defensive 1/3, but what it may not tell you is that it came after being down a man.
I'll use an example, the US U17 men's team vs Honduras WCQ. The USA lost 3-1 to Honduras first time ever and did not qualify for the WC. The Pro Zone stats told them that the AM was the player who gave up possession the most, what the stats did not show was that he was the player who was attempting to play the entry pass or take players on to create opportunities (the best player out there). The best player of the game according to ProZone for the US, only played the 1st half.
Stats is great and all, but you have to use stats in contrast or in comparisons to what you see in the game. Ask AVB how those stats working out for him.
I not even wasting my time dissecting this pack ah ass because you continue to conveniently miss the point. Stats by themselves are meaningless, the context must be taken into consideration. Nobody could argue with that. In this case the stats support what I saw by watching the match, that it was a dull even affair until on spectacular moment of brilliance by Delph. You say Liverpool only had 2 shots on goal... the two penalty kicks, which only goes to prove you can't analyze the data you're seeing or you're disingenuously trying to use it to further your own agenda. If the keeper has to make a save then that is a considered a shot ON GOAL. Glen Johnson forced a save from Guzan in the 8' and Joe Allen forced another in the 28'... separate from any penalty kicks. That's as many shots on goal that Chelsea had all game. Not sure why you persisting in trying to make a comparison between the two matches.
The two ah allyuh insist that Chelsea created all these chances. I saw the match as it happened I didn't see any Chelsea dominance, nor did I see Chelsea creating any chances. After reading what both of you had to say I then went and read the Minute-by-minute report (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/15/aston-villa-v-chelsea-live-premier-league-report). Still nothing. Then I went to try to find highlights of the game. Still nothing. So maybe allyuh could point out the chances Chelsea created, or how they dominated... b/c me eh no big coach like you elan, so hopefully yuh could break down the dominance and numerous chances created.
https://www.youtube.com/v/3YQsnMIwC08
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
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Post by: elan on March 19, 2014, 03:46:08 PM
Post by: Bakes on March 19, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
So Jose get charge for stepping on the field when at one point in that whole melee I swear Lambert was on the field too. Also where is the charge for Ablongahor?
If you read the statement you'll see that it wasn't just for stepping onto the field.
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The match official, Chris Foy, ordered the managers, coaching staff and substitutes from the turf but Mourinho, who had become infuriated by the referee's performance, immediately came back on to the pitch, signalling for a "timeout", and was promptly sent to the stands by the official.
From the FA:
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"It is alleged the Chelsea manager's behaviour in re-entering the field of play in or around the 90th minute of the fixture and approaching the match referee amounted to improper conduct."
Post by: elan on March 19, 2014, 06:45:46 PM
So Jose get charge for stepping on the field when at one point in that whole melee I swear Lambert was on the field too. Also where is the charge for Ablongahor?
If you read the statement you'll see that it wasn't just for stepping onto the field.QuoteThe match official, Chris Foy, ordered the managers, coaching staff and substitutes from the turf but Mourinho, who had become infuriated by the referee's performance, immediately came back on to the pitch, signalling for a "timeout", and was promptly sent to the stands by the official.
From the FA:Quote"It is alleged the Chelsea manager's behaviour in re-entering the field of play in or around the 90th minute of the fixture and approaching the match referee amounted to improper conduct."
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"It's a big occasion for me to know about the character of Mr Foy, because I want to know what he's going to write about my sending off," Mourinho said. "I was two-three metres inside the pitch or four-five metres, but there was like 10 persons there. It was me, my two assistants, (Villa boss) Paul Lambert, Paul's assistants. And there was Agbonlahor, who come in and made an aggression on Ramires from behind.
"I think almost all of us were just trying to calm (things) down and try to stop (it). So if I was sent off because I was on the pitch, I ask why not the others, especially one player that made an aggression on another one, Agbonlahor on Ramires? Agbonlahor came from the dug out, he went to Ramires pulled him from his neck and Agbonlahor was not on pitch he was on the bench."
Post by: elan on March 19, 2014, 06:55:03 PM
If the ref did not want JM to talk to him then he should have remained where he was and wave JM back to his bench.
Post by: Bakes on March 19, 2014, 08:57:20 PM
Another thing, if you watch the video well you will see that JM walked down the pitch and stopped on the side line, he gained the refs attention and it appears he asked the ref to speak to him. You then see Foy coming to him at which time JM stepped onto the field and talked to the ref.
If the ref did not want JM to talk to him then he should have remained where he was and wave JM back to his bench.
Useless trying to have an objective conversation with you where your team is concerned. Everything Chelsea do is golden... Mourinho could piss on your head and yuh'll say is rain.
Post by: elan on March 19, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
Another thing, if you watch the video well you will see that JM walked down the pitch and stopped on the side line, he gained the refs attention and it appears he asked the ref to speak to him. You then see Foy coming to him at which time JM stepped onto the field and talked to the ref.
If the ref did not want JM to talk to him then he should have remained where he was and wave JM back to his bench.
Useless trying to have an objective conversation with you where your team is concerned. Everything Chelsea do is golden... Mourinho could piss on your head and yuh'll say is rain.
Yeah I know how yuh feel. It does be the same thing when you on about Liverpool. I understand what you say and the charges explained, just I feel as though the FA pick and choose in this situation as the video show there should be more than one person being fined if they are being impartial. But hey this is the English FA.
Post by: Bakes on March 20, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
Yeah I know how yuh feel. It does be the same thing when you on about Liverpool. I understand what you say and the charges explained, just I feel as though the FA pick and choose in this situation as the video show there should be more than one person being fined if they are being impartial. But hey this is the English FA.
I am as objective as they come when it comes to Liverpool and you cannot argue otherwise... you just on shit. Was there anybody else who RE-ENTERED the playing field after being told to get off the pitch? Mourinho is also a repeated offender so you really don't get to argue about "pick and choose" when yuh constantly violating the rules and otherwise making a spectacle of yourself.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 22, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
2-0 within the first ten minutes of the match.
Post by: Bitter on March 22, 2014, 07:02:17 AM
But I don't know why Gibbs went off instead of Oxlade-Chaimberlain
Post by: soccerman on March 22, 2014, 07:02:28 AM
Post by: soccerman on March 22, 2014, 07:10:05 AM
Self-destruct button pressed by the gunners.Mistaken identity
But I don't know why Gibbs went off instead of Oxlade-Chaimberlain
Post by: FF on March 22, 2014, 07:10:59 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 22, 2014, 07:11:45 AM
Post by: Bitter on March 22, 2014, 07:23:58 AM
All half black ppl does look de same :P
Somebody call Al Sharpton!
Post by: soccerman on March 22, 2014, 07:57:53 AM
:rotfl:All half black ppl does look de same :P
Somebody call Al Sharpton!
Post by: lefty on March 22, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
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Post by: elan on March 29, 2014, 11:14:44 AM
Playing Mikel who knows his role so well is a much better decision I think.
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 29, 2014, 11:24:59 AM
Post by: Bakes on March 29, 2014, 06:46:27 PM
Mourinho just lose to the master of grinding out results: Tony Pulis. I thought Chelsea should have come out a bit more attacking minded, especially seeing how Pulis' teams play.
Pulis like he abandon de hoof and chase strategy. Not yet "pretty" football, but good attacking game today. Bolasie, Jerome and Puncheon had Chelsea backline busy whole game.
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 29, 2014, 11:30:58 PM
Mourinho just lose to the master of grinding out results: Tony Pulis. I thought Chelsea should have come out a bit more attacking minded, especially seeing how Pulis' teams play.
Pulis like he abandon de hoof and chase strategy. Not yet "pretty" football, but good attacking game today. Bolasie, Jerome and Puncheon had Chelsea backline busy whole game.
Well, if that cost you your last job, as fans were getting tired of that style, wouldn't you learn a lesson. Word is that Pulis ad agreed to change his approach to the game at Stoke, and had even submitted a proposal to management and the Board, but they just wanted to go on a different path. When your chief scout comes out and basically blasts your approach to the game, that is not a good sign, and that is what happened at Stoke.
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 29, 2014, 11:31:11 PM
Mourinho just lose to the master of grinding out results: Tony Pulis. I thought Chelsea should have come out a bit more attacking minded, especially seeing how Pulis' teams play.
Pulis like he abandon de hoof and chase strategy. Not yet "pretty" football, but good attacking game today. Bolasie, Jerome and Puncheon had Chelsea backline busy whole game.
Well, if that cost you your last job, as fans were getting tired of that style, wouldn't you learn a lesson? Word is that Pulis had agreed to change his approach to the game at Stoke, and had even submitted a proposal to management and the Board, but they just wanted to go on a different path. When your chief scout comes out and basically blasts your approach to the game, that is not a good sign, and that is what happened at Stoke.
Post by: elan on April 08, 2014, 02:46:50 PM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Post by: Sando on April 08, 2014, 04:04:39 PM
They need some fire power going into the next rounds.
Victor Moses and Lucas Piazon is also options. Torres confidence is a problem since he join Chelsea.
Post by: elan on April 08, 2014, 11:37:09 PM
Ok, time for Chelsea to call back Romelu Lukaku.
They need some fire power going into the next rounds.
Victor Moses and Lucas Piazon is also options. Torres confidence is a problem since he join Chelsea.
:shameonyou: that was before he came to us.
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Flickin Sunderland?
And we know Ramires missing at least one of the next few games
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 12:13:15 PM
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Post by: lefty on April 19, 2014, 12:25:58 PM
Freakin Sunderland ends the streak!
yeah dat penalty....but dem fellas been missin ah spark long time it was bound to happen
Post by: Dumplingdinho on April 21, 2014, 08:03:43 PM
Freakin Sunderland ends the streak!
yeah dat penalty....but dem fellas been missin ah spark long time it was bound to happen
come nah man doh blame the penalty...chelsea has received many a "ghost" penalty over the years...you win some you lose some....dont impersonate mourinho (i.e. blame a 3rd party).
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 22, 2014, 08:28:33 AM
come nah man doh blame the penalty...chelsea has received many a "ghost" penalty over the years...you win some you lose some....dont impersonate mourinho (i.e. blame a 3rd party).
It had to happen sooner or later. Shitty time for it to happen buh say wha.
Post by: weary1969 on April 22, 2014, 10:41:08 AM
Following David Moyes' sacking, police have been called to quell the protests outside Old Trafford.
The Liverpool, Man City, and Chelsea fans have all been told to go home.
Go to work all yuh
Post by: elan on April 22, 2014, 12:42:23 PM
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2014, 01:06:05 PM
:nailbiting:
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 01:06:36 PM
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Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 02:21:22 PM
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2014, 02:21:56 PM
Is Mourinho interested in an away goal?
Is he ever?
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2014, 02:46:51 PM
Di Matteo would be proud.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Is Mourinho interested in an away goal?
Is he ever?
:rotfl:
Post by: elan on April 22, 2014, 07:35:36 PM
Post by: elan on April 22, 2014, 07:46:55 PM
Post by: lefty on April 22, 2014, 07:59:32 PM
nah man me eh blame d penalty......Chelsea been off dey game in d league for most of d tail end of d season 'cept for d arsenal gameFreakin Sunderland ends the streak!
yeah dat penalty....but dem fellas been missin ah spark long time it was bound to happen
come nah man doh blame the penalty...chelsea has received many a "ghost" penalty over the years...you win some you lose some....dont impersonate mourinho (i.e. blame a 3rd party).
Post by: davidephraim on April 22, 2014, 08:33:09 PM
As for Lukaku, dont think Mour like him.
Post by: Toppa on April 22, 2014, 10:22:41 PM
• José Mourinho plans protest at being made to play on Sunday
• Manager to seek Abramovich's consent but could forfeit title
José Mourinho is threatening to rest virtually his entire Chelsea team and potentially hand Liverpool the Premier League title after revealing he will seek permission from Roman Abramovich to pick a deliberately weakened side in protest at being made to play the game on Sunday.
Mourinho's plan is likely to infuriate the Premier League and also has serious ramifications for Manchester City, who are relying on Chelsea to beat Liverpool and throw the title race back open.
However, Mourinho is furious that the game was not switched to Friday or Saturday when Chelsea have the second leg of their Champions League semi-final against Atlético Madrid at Stamford Bridge the following Wednesday and is willing to risk sacrificing their slim chance of the title unless Abramovich, the owner, blocks him.
The Chelsea manager was speaking after learning that Petr Cech dislocated a shoulder in the goalless first leg at the Vicente Calderón and that John Terry suffered an ankle injury that is likely to end his season unless they reach the final.
"I can't decide by myself," Mourinho replied when asked how the injuries would influence his team selection at Anfield. "I have to listen to the club. I'm just the manager and I have to listen to the club.
"The fact that the match is on Sunday, I think that puts the problem not in my hands but in the hands of those who decide the game should be Sunday, not Saturday or Friday. We represent English football and are the only [English] team in European competition.
"Spain have four and give them all the conditions to try to have success. So I know what I would do. I would play the players who are not going to play on Wednesday. My priority is the Champions League. But I'm not the club. I have to speak to them."
Continues...http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/23/jose-mourinho-chelsea-liverpool-abramovich
Post by: Tiresais on April 23, 2014, 05:44:13 AM
Post by: FF on April 23, 2014, 08:29:04 AM
Premier League really don't care nah...
Post by: elan on April 23, 2014, 08:31:47 AM
Manager should be able to pick whatever team he deems most appropriate for the club - hate the sanctions against fielding weakened teams - leagues are played over 38 matches, so win the others and any one won't matter nearly as much :p
You have to blame the FA, is years now managers and clubs have been complaining about adjusting the schedule to assist FA teams in the CL but they are yet to budge.
Same thing in the 2nd leg vs PSG. PSG got to play their game the Friday and got the extra day of rest, whereas Chelsea had to play the Saturday game.
Post by: Tiresais on April 23, 2014, 09:28:27 AM
Post by: elan on April 23, 2014, 10:03:21 AM
Yea the FA can take some of the blame, but I think it's a British football culture thing - "deal with it" lol
That's why this summer when they're "home before the card" I hope "they deal with it".
Post by: Tiresais on April 23, 2014, 03:47:49 PM
Yea the FA can take some of the blame, but I think it's a British football culture thing - "deal with it" lol
That's why this summer when they're "home before the card" I hope "they deal with it".
Yuh talking plenty, lets see how it goes down in Brazil :P If we go out early the media will be brutal of course.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 27, 2014, 08:06:41 AM
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Post by: elan on May 02, 2014, 10:47:35 AM
They have been chasing him for months, and now Chelsea have apparently got their man after finally agreeing to sign Diego Costa from Atletico Madrid.
Costa, who scored against in the Blues in the Champions League this week, is Jose Mourinho’s number one transfer target – and it appears he’s landed him early.
According to reports in Spain, Chelsea have wrapped up the transfer after agreeing to meet the striker’s £32million buyout clause.
Costa has also accepted personal terms on a five-year contract, with the move set to be formally announced at the end of the season.
The 25-year-old told reporters yesterday that he was aware of offers from other clubs, before going coy when asked if he was west London-bound.
Costa will reportedly pocket about £200,000-a-week at Stamford Bridge, while Chelsea will hope to offset some of that expenditure by clearing out forwards such as Fernando Torres and Samuel Eto’o, both of whom are high earners.
Post by: injunchile on May 02, 2014, 11:00:40 AM
If we can get Pepe to replace Terry, then Chelsea good to go. watch the phonies become race horses
Post by: lefty on May 02, 2014, 11:02:44 AM
Post by: asylumseeker on May 02, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
so what would that mean for lukaku? to everton permanently.....heard BA wants out as well so..............
The sad thing is Ba could be cultivated, but Mourinho has marginal to no interest in cultivating him. The net of that is it places Ba in a kind of career-derailing position of possibly becoming a PL journeyman. Let's see what happens ... he's made key contributions in silence. Pained me to watch Schurrle deal with him kind of disrespectfully. He needs nuff minutes at a not-obscure club where he will settle for a few seasons. Right now, the best he can expect at Chelsea is a Kalou experience.
Post by: lefty on May 02, 2014, 12:26:35 PM
so what would that mean for lukaku? to everton permanently.....heard BA wants out as well so..............
The sad thing is Ba could be cultivated, but Mourinho has marginal to no interest in cultivating him. The net of that is it places Ba in a kind of career-derailing position of possibly becoming a PL journeyman. Let's see what happens ... he's made key contributions in silence. Pained me to watch Schurrle deal with him kind of disrespectfully. He needs nuff minutes at a not-obscure club where he will settle for a few seasons. Right now, the best he can expect at Chelsea is a Kalou experience.
I hear yuh dey..........as I have said before....I think it was a mistake to marginalize him in favour of torres...even in the face of torres' lack of productivity, even Rafa, the one who brought him in was doing it which was weird because Ba scored a double on debut and seem to always be visible when playing.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 02, 2014, 01:47:08 PM
so what would that mean for lukaku? to everton permanently.....heard BA wants out as well so..............
The sad thing is Ba could be cultivated, but Mourinho has marginal to no interest in cultivating him. The net of that is it places Ba in a kind of career-derailing position of possibly becoming a PL journeyman. Let's see what happens ... he's made key contributions in silence. Pained me to watch Schurrle deal with him kind of disrespectfully. He needs nuff minutes at a not-obscure club where he will settle for a few seasons. Right now, the best he can expect at Chelsea is a Kalou experience.
I hear yuh dey..........as I have said before....I think it was a mistake to marginalize him in favour of torres...even in the face of torres' lack of productivity, even Rafa, the one who brought him in was doing it which was weird because Ba scored a double on debut and seem to always be visible when playing.
That call came from Roman breds. Allyuh eh realize dat yet? When Shevy came and was not producing didn't he get ample opportunities too just like Torres? When RA make an investment he will press to see that it brings some kind or return. That's why it was best Lukaku went on loan because he wouldn't have had any chance to show the form he did at Everton. He actually have Wenger to thank because if not for bagging Ozil, is Ba who was gone and he woulda be dey suckin salt!
assylum I hoping Lukaku comes back to be option number 2 behind Costa.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 02, 2014, 02:05:56 PM
Post by: davidephraim on May 02, 2014, 07:39:43 PM
There I said it! (Now how do I get this to Jose)
Post by: elan on June 12, 2014, 10:33:55 AM
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has confirmed his interest in Cesc Fabregas at a pre-World Cup event for Yahoo! Sports
Cesc Fabregas said he has "unfinished business" in England as his transfer from Barcelona to Chelsea was confirmed.
Fabregas, 27, who has signed a five-year contract, also said he had "rejected offers" from other clubs to move to Chelsea in a deal reported to be worth 33 million euros.
The Spain midfielder's return to the Premier League had been expected after three up and down seasons at the Camp Nou. Even last summer he took his time before deciding to reject a reported big-money offer from Manchester United and stay for another season in La Liga.
A switch this summer appeared imminent after club and country colleague Gerard Pique was caught on camera last week telling national coach Vicente Del Bosque that a deal had been agreed.
The confirmation was announced by both clubs on Thursday afternoon, with the new Blues No. 4 saying that he had chosen Chelsea due to the club's ambitions, their strong squad and manager Jose Mourinho.
"Firstly I would like to thank everyone at FC Barcelona where I enjoyed three wonderful years," Fabregas said on his new club's official website. "It was my childhood club and I will always be proud and honoured that I had a chance to play for such a great team.
"I do feel that I have unfinished business in the Premier League and now is the right time to return. I considered all the other offers very carefully and I firmly believe that Chelsea is the best choice."
They match my footballing ambitions with their hunger and desire to win trophies. They have an amazing squad of players and an incredible manager. I am fully committed to this team and I can't wait to start playing."
Barcelona's statement on the move thanked the player for his efforts during the last three seasons and wished him the best for the future.
“I do feel that I have unfinished business in the Premier League and now is the right time to return.”
"FC Barcelona and Chelsea FC have reached an agreement for the transfer of player Cesc Fabregas to the English club," the statement said.
"FC Barcelona wishes to publicly thank Cesc Fabregas for his professionalism and dedication during his years at the club, which will always be his home, and to wish him all the very best for the future."
This is the second time that Fabregas departs from Barca -- having first left the club's youth system as a 16-year-old back in 2003 to join Arsenal.
Following eight seasons with the Gunners he returned to the Camp Nou in 2011, but never quite seemed to be a leading figure despite playing under three coaches in Pep Guardiola, Tito Vilanova and Gerardo Martino.
Fabregas did however win six trophies during these three years, including the 2012 Copa del Rey and 2012-13 La Liga title, scoring 42 goals in 151 games.
Barca are now expected to soon announce the signing, for around 20 million euros, of Croatian playmaker Ivan Rakitic as an replacement for their departing midfielder.
Fabregas is a key member of the Spain squad at the upcoming World Cup, where he will feature alongside new clubmates Fernando Torres and Cesar Azpilicueta, as well as reported Chelsea target Diego Costa.
Post by: mukumsplau on June 13, 2014, 04:53:39 AM
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Post by: soccerman on June 13, 2014, 12:09:30 PM
Post by: Sam on June 18, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
Chelsea finally agree to sign Diego Costa in £32million transfer (http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/02/chelsea-finally-agree-to-sign-diego-costa-in-32million-transfer-4716072/)
They have been chasing him for months, and now Chelsea have apparently got their man after finally agreeing to sign Diego Costa from Atletico Madrid.
Costa, who scored against in the Blues in the Champions League this week, is Jose Mourinho’s number one transfer target – and it appears he’s landed him early.
According to reports in Spain, Chelsea have wrapped up the transfer after agreeing to meet the striker’s £32million buyout clause.
Costa has also accepted personal terms on a five-year contract, with the move set to be formally announced at the end of the season.
The 25-year-old told reporters yesterday that he was aware of offers from other clubs, before going coy when asked if he was west London-bound.
Costa will reportedly pocket about £200,000-a-week at Stamford Bridge, while Chelsea will hope to offset some of that expenditure by clearing out forwards such as Fernando Torres and Samuel Eto’o, both of whom are high earners.
What is waste of buy for Chelsea, Diego Costa is lame, another over price goat.
Post by: elan on June 18, 2014, 07:23:46 PM
Chelsea finally agree to sign Diego Costa in £32million transfer (http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/02/chelsea-finally-agree-to-sign-diego-costa-in-32million-transfer-4716072/)
They have been chasing him for months, and now Chelsea have apparently got their man after finally agreeing to sign Diego Costa from Atletico Madrid.
Costa, who scored against in the Blues in the Champions League this week, is Jose Mourinho’s number one transfer target – and it appears he’s landed him early.
According to reports in Spain, Chelsea have wrapped up the transfer after agreeing to meet the striker’s £32million buyout clause.
Costa has also accepted personal terms on a five-year contract, with the move set to be formally announced at the end of the season.
The 25-year-old told reporters yesterday that he was aware of offers from other clubs, before going coy when asked if he was west London-bound.
Costa will reportedly pocket about £200,000-a-week at Stamford Bridge, while Chelsea will hope to offset some of that expenditure by clearing out forwards such as Fernando Torres and Samuel Eto’o, both of whom are high earners.
What is waste of buy for Chelsea, Diego Costa is lame, another over price goat.
Coaching makes the difference Sam. We will see. Costa has what we need, maybe the Special One brings it out.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 26, 2014, 03:47:53 PM
Post by: Tiresais on July 27, 2014, 07:47:19 AM
Chelsea Arrivals Again Leave Lukaku Out In The Cold
Football 365 (Daniel Storey)
"The transfer market closes on August 31 and we close our market on July 19. We finished the market today" - Jose Mourinho, July 19.
"This summer, we've bought new players and we are trying to build for the next decade" - Jose Mourinho, July 24.
Taking Jose Mourinho's words as the gospel truth has long been a foolish pastime, but to disprove two claims in one move is an impressive feat even for Jose, a man who almost prides himself on an ability to make people erroneously take his words as verbatim. In signing Didier Drogba on a one-year contract as a player (with no future coaching plans included), Mourinho at least partially invalidated his claim that he was building for the future. The departure of Romelu Lukaku now seems an inevitable occurrence - this time his parting will be of a permanent nature.
Mourinho's treatment of Lukaku has been a bone of contention for some time. When the Belgian claimed in December that he would like to remain at Everton for another season, the Chelsea manager was quick to put him in his place. "Maybe there is a new rule in football where when the season finishes every player is able to decide their own future," Mourinho said sarcastically. "Romelu likes to speak. He's a young boy who likes to speak." Stones can be heard hitting the windows of a glass house.
Lukaku's continued disappointment is at his lack of opportunities at Stamford Bridge since arriving for around £18million in August 2011. He has played just 199 Premier League minutes for Chelsea, loaned out to both West Brom and Everton on season-long deals, and evidently feels that he has been unfairly rejected by the club despite meriting an extended chance to impress.
It's difficult to disagree. Lukaku only turned 21 at the end of last season, and yet the only current Premier League player with more PL goals in the last two seasons than the Belgian's total of 32 is Robin van Persie. That Lukaku achieved such a feat whilst playing for Everton and West Brom, where service (particularly away from home) was occasionally scarce, indicates just how comfortable he is playing as the central striker in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation, precisely the approach Mourinho may well utilise at Chelsea next season.
A comparison of the number of league goals scored by the age of 21 sees Lionel Messi with 57, Michael Owen 55 and Wayne Rooney 44 - Lukaku has 65. This may not yet be the complete striker, but at such a tender age nor should he be - what he has demonstrated is that he could be one of the best forwards in the world in three or four years' time.
It isn't as if things have been going swimmingly for Chelsea in such an area, either. It is likely that the title would have been won last season had Jose Mourinho had a competent striker at his disposal. Samuel Eto'o scored nine times (before being released), whilst Demba Ba and Fernando Torres managed just ten goals between them. In each of the last two seasons, Lukaku has outscored Chelsea's top Premier League goalscorer.
The contrast between Lukaku and Torres is the most striking, the Belgian managing more league goals in his last two seasons (at Everton and West Brom, remember) than Torres has in his last four seasons at Chelsea and Liverpool. Lukaku's shot accuracy of 62.5% and conversion rate of 20.83% dwarfs that of Torres (48.65% and 13.51%), and yet it is Torres that will remain at Stamford Bridge, his high wages and pitifully low output making him a less than tempting proposition.
Mourinho has attempted to rectify his striking woes, recruiting Diego Costa for £32million from Atletico Madrid. Costa was continuously excellent for Atletico in both La Liga and the Champions League, but has only ever scored more than ten in a league season on one occasion- Lukaku has done so four times. His accuracy (57%) was also lower than Lukaku's last season.
It's a move that has left former Chelsea coach (and current Real Madrid assistant) Paul Clement not entirely convinced. "Costa's aggression and nastiness is the key, as without that he'd be a fairly average player," Clement said. "I'm not surprised Mourinho has signed him as he's the kind of player who'd die on the pitch for his team-mates, but he won't find it as easy to bully defenders in England as he did in Spain." Chelsea have taken a gamble, of that there is no doubt, the financial burden at least eased by Paris St Germain's unfathomable decision to pay £40million for David Luiz.
The bizarre conclusion, however, is that if Mourinho wanted a physical presence to lead his line, that is exactly what Lukaku constitutes (with the added bonus of Premier League experience and success). He won 38% of his aerial duels (compared to Costa's 21%) and was dispossessed only 1.7 times per game in the Premier League. Costa's figure of 3.6 is markedly higher.
That is certainly the opinion of Joel Robles, team-mate of Lukaku at Goodison last season: "He's a lot like Costa but I would say he is even more physically powerful," Robles said. "He is a player who fights a lot and has a goal in him, like Costa. Lukaku is a player who always faces up. He never hides if a game gets ugly, and has a lot of character."
And so, whilst one of the Premier League's most potent strikers will be allowed to leave at the age of just 21 without Chelsea even making a meaningful profit, with both Atletico and Real Madrid reportedly keen on a move.
All eyes now turn to Costa, Chelsea's second most expensive ever purchase. If it works out anything like the Spaniard above Costa on that list, supporters will be rightly questioning why Lukaku is being permitted to leave. What's more, why did he never even get a meaningful chance when other clubs rate him so highly?
Post by: asylumseeker on August 13, 2014, 08:16:54 AM
Jose Mourinho has claimed Chelsea have bagged a £32 million bargain in striker Diego Costa.
Costa gave notice that Chelsea manager Mourinho has solved his team’s goalscoring problems on the brink of the new Premier League season.
It took Costa just 57 seconds to score his first Stamford Bridge goal in a Chelsea shirt in the final pre-season friendly against Real Sociedad.
With eight minutes gone, pink-booted Costa had grabbed a second by tapping the ball into an empty net after Andre Schurrle had rattled the post to complete a 2-0 victory. It may have looked like the easiest of goals, but Fernando Torres, who replaced Costa from the bench after 61 minutes, has missed those kinds of opportunities in a blue shirt.
Strikers — Didier Drogba excepted — have found it difficult to justify their expensive price tags at Chelsea in recent years, but early indications are that Costa looks well worth the money.
When you look at the market, it is crazy and the value of strikers is even more,” Mourinho said. “Diego has won the league in Spain, played in the final of the Champions League and is still just 25. We consider the price as very much in our favour considering the values of the market.
“Diego is a team player, who works for the team. He is not just about goals, he works for the team and defends well.
“This is the player we were waiting for since last season. The player why we didn’t buy a striker in the last winter market. The Premier League should be happy because sometimes we lose important players to other countries.”
Costa added: “I hope my actions on the pitch and my feet will do the talking and then people can decide if I’m a good player or not, if I’m improving or not. All I can say is I love playing hard and fairly. Joining was an easy decision for me. We have some of the best players in the world, the best manager in the world and it’s a club with great history. I want to improve, not only as a player but as an individual, and I believe this is the perfect place for me to do that. That’s the reason I chose Chelsea and why I want to defend this shirt.”
Other than getting excited over the prospect of watching Costa every week, the Chelsea faithful were given a big hint that a new era has started at the other end of the pitch.
Goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois started what was Chelsea’s showpiece pre-season friendly ahead of Petr Cech and, significantly, was the only player to remain on the pitch for the entire 90 minutes.
When both men have been available, Mourinho had previously given Courtois and Cech a half each, but the Belgian may now have the edge in the battle to start against Burnley on Monday.
Chelsea’s 25-man first-team squad that was listed on the back of the match programme still contained one too many foreign players to meet Premier League and Champions League rules. Selling Cech may yet prove to be the easiest way around the problem.
Mourinho admitted he has decided on his first-choice goalkeeper, but claimed he will keep Courtois and Cech guessing until the day before the Burnley game.
“I have my first-choice keeper in my mind,” said Mourinho. “The players do not know yet. I will tell them on Sunday.”
(Source: The Telegraph)
Post by: elan on August 13, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
Elan, I thought you would be the first to welcome Drogba back to his home. :devil:
Man licking my chops with Drogba and Costa leading the line. ;D
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 13, 2014, 12:43:34 PM
Elan, I thought you would be the first to welcome Drogba back to his home. :devil:
Man licking my chops with Drogba and Costa leading the line. ;D
Torres go look like even more shite now lol
Post by: Bitter on August 18, 2014, 01:45:34 PM
Post by: elan on August 18, 2014, 08:48:11 PM
Post by: elan on August 18, 2014, 08:51:40 PM
Post by: Bitter on August 23, 2014, 12:34:34 PM
I say this every year, but it's true every year. Until proven otherwise, Chelsea are favorites to win the title.
Post by: lefty on August 23, 2014, 01:33:31 PM
Cruise control.
I say this every year, but it's true every year. Until proven otherwise, Chelsea are favorites to win the title.
yeah but, I does still find mih self wishin chelsea don't score in d first half......d team need to play like goal difference actually important and stop closin shop with 2 and 3 on d board if more can be had even if it mean ah lil more risk, atleast wait till minute 70 or sumting nah...... lord boy jose
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Cruise control.
I say this every year, but it's true every year. Until proven otherwise, Chelsea are favorites to win the title.
You've played Burnley and Leicester... long season ahead.
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2014, 03:08:34 PM
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2014, 03:13:57 PM
On the strength of their performances to start the season, I'd have to say that City are the favorites to win the title now.
But they only played Newcastle and Liverpool... long season ahead. ;D
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
On the strength of their performances to start the season, I'd have to say that City are the favorites to win the title now.
But they only played Newcastle and Liverpool... long season ahead. ;D
New Castle away and a tricky fixture against Liverpool... both of which they made look easy. Not quite the same as playing two newly-promoted teams. That aside, they have way more ability up front than Chelsea, and they're not exactly shaky at the back.
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2014, 03:34:54 PM
On the strength of their performances to start the season, I'd have to say that City are the favorites to win the title now.
But they only played Newcastle and Liverpool... long season ahead. ;D
New Castle away and a tricky fixture against Liverpool... both of which they made look easy. Not quite the same as playing two newly-promoted teams. That aside, they have way more ability up front than Chelsea, and they're not exactly shaky at the back.
Doh worry, allyuh will get to play Burnley and Leicester too
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2014, 04:10:18 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 26, 2014, 09:35:54 AM
...and allyuh will get to play City too, and see fuh allyuh self :beermug:
They were champs last year and get they ass cut in both fixtures against us right? Despite all what people does say about Chelsea no "big" teams eh beatin we jess so doh.
Post by: elan on August 26, 2014, 09:49:21 AM
...and allyuh will get to play City too, and see fuh allyuh self :beermug:
They were champs last year and get they ass cut in both fixtures against us right? Despite all what people does say about Chelsea no "big" teams eh beatin we jess so doh.
Doh study dem, season now start Champions League coming yuh go see bachanal then. They done only play 2 game and they struggling for players.
Post by: Bakes on August 26, 2014, 10:22:49 AM
Doh study dem, season now start Champions League coming yuh go see bachanal then. They done only play 2 game and they struggling for players.
You need to take yuh head out yuh ass ah little bit more and let it breathe. This isn't about Liverpool, the conversation is about whether Chelsea are better favorites to win the title (as Bitter suggests) than City.
Post by: elan on August 26, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
Doh study dem, season now start Champions League coming yuh go see bachanal then. They done only play 2 game and they struggling for players.
You need to take yuh head out yuh ass ah little bit more and let it breathe. This isn't about Liverpool, the conversation is about whether Chelsea are better favorites to win the title (as Bitter suggests) than City.
Buckle up and take yuh meds will be a long season for yuh.
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 10:44:09 AM
Post by: grimm01 on August 30, 2014, 10:46:39 AM
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 11:28:29 AM
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 12:06:34 PM
Post by: Bakes on August 30, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
Buckle up and take yuh meds will be a long season for yuh.
Fuh me? I doh play football... try yuh best.
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 12:10:40 PM
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 12:12:45 PM
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 12:12:51 PM
4-3!
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 12:14:01 PM
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 12:14:08 PM
This game is off the chain.4-3!
5-3!
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Post by: chelsealife on August 30, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 12:36:06 PM
Cruise control. I say this every year, but it's true every year. Until proven otherwise, Chelsea are favorites to win the title.::)
Post by: lefty on August 30, 2014, 12:40:52 PM
Post by: Peong on August 30, 2014, 02:05:26 PM
Post by: elan on August 30, 2014, 07:13:16 PM
Post by: Bitter on September 13, 2014, 09:39:42 AM
Post by: chelsealife on September 13, 2014, 09:48:41 AM
Post by: elan on September 13, 2014, 10:21:26 AM
Post by: lefty on September 13, 2014, 11:19:07 AM
We still eh play nobody yet ??? ::)
lolol :D
Post by: Peong on September 13, 2014, 01:27:46 PM
Post by: Bitter on September 13, 2014, 01:38:09 PM
Somebody need to find the off button for Costa.
Spain have one.
Post by: lefty on September 13, 2014, 02:57:48 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Somebody need to find the off button for Costa.
Spain have one.
Post by: Bakes on September 21, 2014, 09:15:41 AM
We still eh play nobody yet ??? ::)
This is allyuh first real test... Chelsea definitely looks the class of the League so far, but "let wait and see."
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 10:43:42 AM
Post by: Bakes on September 21, 2014, 10:45:47 AM
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 10:55:44 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 22, 2014, 08:21:39 AM
Good counter-attack to score for Chelsea... but that's just disgusting football for a neutral. Mike Dean had an outsized effect on the game in sending Zabaleta off. Yes the second yellow was deserved, but not the first... and in light of the two-footed lunge by Schurrle being let go, it's even harder to justify the Zabaleta decision. Chelsea might get the win but it's hardly the convincing kind of football one would expect in light of all the crowing.
Mike Dean had a really shitty game as far as the cards go. For a neutral I can see how our approach may turn them off but against title competition Jose not trying to give away anything. So given that we have the horses for counterattack football he chose that. People always accuse Chelsea of parking the bus but on all intervals of any semblance of sustained possession by us City's entire team was in their half including both strikers. It sucks that we ended up splitting the points but going in I was hoping for 3 but expecting a draw. Given their quality it is hard to imagine us continueing to bobolize dem in the league especially in the Etihad. To me the split was a fair result.
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2014, 09:46:54 AM
Mike Dean had a really shitty game as far as the cards go. For a neutral I can see how our approach may turn them off but against title competition Jose not trying to give away anything. So given that we have the horses for counterattack football he chose that. People always accuse Chelsea of parking the bus but on all intervals of any semblance of sustained possession by us City's entire team was in their half including both strikers. It sucks that we ended up splitting the points but going in I was hoping for 3 but expecting a draw. Given their quality it is hard to imagine us continueing to bobolize dem in the league especially in the Etihad. To me the split was a fair result.
I have no real issue with Chelsea's approach... it's ugly, but it's pragmatic. As a fan of Georgetown and New York Knicks basketball, both programs were accused back in the 90s of playing ugly "defense-first" basketball. I can appreciate a defensive battle with the best of them. My thing is Mourinho's hypocrisy, which is so blatant that he's becoming more and more of a caricature of himself. He criticises West Ham for 19th Century football tactics, then deploys the same a few weeks later against Liverpool. Then you have the fans who insist that Chelsea are head and shoulders above the competition this season... yet when faced with their biggest test in the young season they pull this stunt... and fail at that. I don't care how you dress it up, failing to see out a lead with 20 minutes to go against a 10-man side is failure by any definition.
City would have been hard-done by anything less than a draw, and arguably deserved more if not for Dean's ridiculous officiating. And just to elaborate on that... I don't have a problem with showing cards early and often. The problem is when you're sharing cards for silly reasons... some of those tackles were caution-worthy, but some others were run-of-the-mill fouls. With Zabaleta's first card he actually won the ball... one can only surmise that the whistle was for the fact that it was from the back. Given that soft card, a good referee would have given him a stern talking to rather than send him off.
Post by: Peong on September 22, 2014, 01:53:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/KaoC61dS55k
Post by: elan on September 22, 2014, 03:09:49 PM
Mike Dean had a really shitty game as far as the cards go. For a neutral I can see how our approach may turn them off but against title competition Jose not trying to give away anything. So given that we have the horses for counterattack football he chose that. People always accuse Chelsea of parking the bus but on all intervals of any semblance of sustained possession by us City's entire team was in their half including both strikers. It sucks that we ended up splitting the points but going in I was hoping for 3 but expecting a draw. Given their quality it is hard to imagine us continueing to bobolize dem in the league especially in the Etihad. To me the split was a fair result.
I have no real issue with Chelsea's approach... it's ugly, but it's pragmatic. As a fan of Georgetown and New York Knicks basketball, both programs were accused back in the 90s of playing ugly "defense-first" basketball. I can appreciate a defensive battle with the best of them. My thing is Mourinho's hypocrisy, which is so blatant that he's becoming more and more of a caricature of himself. He criticises West Ham for 19th Century football tactics, then deploys the same a few weeks later against Liverpool. Then you have the fans who insist that Chelsea are head and shoulders above the competition this season... yet when faced with their biggest test in the young season they pull this stunt... and fail at that. I don't care how you dress it up, failing to see out a lead with 20 minutes to go against a 10-man side is failure by any definition.
City would have been hard-done by anything less than a draw, and arguably deserved more if not for Dean's ridiculous officiating. And just to elaborate on that... I don't have a problem with showing cards early and often. The problem is when you're sharing cards for silly reasons... some of those tackles were caution-worthy, but some others were run-of-the-mill fouls. With Zabaleta's first card he actually won the ball... one can only surmise that the whistle was for the fact that it was from the back. Given that soft card, a good referee would have given him a stern talking to rather than send him off.
::)
Post by: Bakes on September 24, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Post by: Blue on September 25, 2014, 03:32:45 PM
Schürrle is a player... and only 23 at that.
Took shots into the upper tier on at least 3 occasions last night. Never seen one man throw away so much in a single game ever.
Post by: Bakes on September 25, 2014, 03:38:03 PM
Schürrle is a player... and only 23 at that.
Took shots into the upper tier on at least 3 occasions last night. Never seen one man throw away so much in a single game ever.
His movement and creativity though...
Post by: lefty on September 27, 2014, 10:19:44 AM
Post by: Bakes on October 05, 2014, 09:19:09 AM
Post by: lefty on October 05, 2014, 11:41:57 AM
Chelsea finally play somebody worth talking about... and they make it look easy against Arsenal.
yeah...was the usual boring drek though.........ting is.....ah more believe is because arsenal eh really push dem......looks like chelsea will only let loose if pushed to that........would be nice to see more "unforced" attacking from dem
Post by: chelsealife on October 05, 2014, 12:20:10 PM
Post by: Bitter on October 18, 2014, 08:44:29 AM
Give away what little advantage Palace had
Post by: lefty on October 18, 2014, 08:46:03 AM
What a moron!
Give away what little advantage Palace had
ent....dat delaney fella is a real clown
Post by: Tallman on October 22, 2014, 04:44:39 PM
BBC News
A failed footballer who posed as a Chelsea star to live a Premier League lifestyle has been jailed.
Manchester Crown Court heard Medi Abalimba went on a £20,000 shopping spree at Selfridges, stayed at top hotels and even hired a helicopter.
The player, who joined Derby County in 2009 for more than £1m but whose career failed to progress, masqueraded as France youth international Gael Kakuta.
Medi Abalimba, 25, admitted multiple frauds and was sentenced to four years.
Abalimba, of Burton Street, London, phoned venues claiming to be the agent of Chelsea winger Gael Kakuta before turning up posing as the player.
The court was told he would ring a venue advising of the imminent arrival of an elite sport star, requesting discretion and paying for goods with stolen credit card details.
Abalimba obtained the details by photographing American Express cards he found in lockers he broke into using a master key at a gym in Camden, north London.
In June 2014, he visited a Manchester nightclub and ordered £2,600 worth of champagne while claiming he left his wallet in a limousine.
Football skills
He pre-paid more than £2,000 using stolen credit card details telling staff he would return next day, which he did, ordering more champagne and leaving in a chauffeur-driven Bentley GT.
In July, he ordered more than £20,000 worth of clothes in Selfridges in the Trafford Centre, even displaying his football skills while shopping - but store detectives were suspicious.
His crime spree saw him stay at expensive hotels, dine at fine restaurants and, on one occasion, he even took four women from Manchester to London in a helicopter.
Greater Manchester Police tracked him down to an £800-a-night rented mansion in Berkshire.
Sgt Adam Cronshaw of GMP, said Abalimba was "charming and charismatic" and could call on his previous football experience and "some resemblance to the real Gael Kakuta to deceive his victims".
He added: "Abalimba told us that many of his victims treated him so differently because they thought he was a celebrity footballer."
'Difficulties snowballed'
The player had stints with Derby, Oldham Athletic, Southend United, Fulham and Crystal Palace and, as a youngster, had trials with Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool.
He admitted 12 offences of fraud and dishonesty, in London, West Yorkshire, Manchester and Derby and asked for 19 offences to be considered.
Speaking in mitigation, his barrister Vic Wozny said Abalimba had had a "rough upbringing" and that he "ran with the wrong crowd" after coming to London at the age of five.
He said his footballing success had come with a lot of "hangers on", who Abalimba would spend his wages on.
When Abalimba "started to slide and money dried up, my client could not accept that he did not continue to lead the high life", he said.
"The offences started to happen. Thereafter my client's difficulties snowballed."
Gael Kakuta, 23, joined Spanish team Rayo Vallecano on loan for the 2014-15 season.
Post by: lefty on November 25, 2014, 05:25:12 PM
Post by: elan on December 16, 2014, 09:40:56 PM
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Post by: Spursy on December 22, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
Jose Mourinho accepts there are frustrated and even unhappy individuals in the Chelsea dressing room but is confident such players are ready to help the team during this hectic festive period.
An exceptional start to the season means the west Londoners head to Stoke today at the top of the Premier League and, in theory, able to win an unparalleled quadruple.
Mourinho joked the only quadruple he is interested in right now is a fourth consecutive victory in all competitions when the Blues play their first of five matches over the next 14 days .
It is a period Chelsea look well placed to succeed over due to the strength in depth at their disposal, which sees top-quality internationals amongst those having to wait patiently for a chance.
Mourinho knows that brings with it a certain level of disgruntlement, yet believes it makes the players hungry and ready to bring the Blues success.
"I'm very club, club, team, team, club, group [orientated]," the Portuguese said.
"I think everybody has to be ready to sacrifice for the team, to give everything for the team, to think about the team, not to be selfish. This is the way I want a team to be.
"I think it is right when you say that players are unhappy or players are frustrated, that they need to be patient. I don't have a secret to keep players happy.
"But the reality is that, to be professional and work at a high level, you don't need to be happy. All of them are professionals.
"The team is more important than themselves, and the club [is].
"Even the ones not playing like [Mark] Schwarzer, who hasn't played a second, but if he has to play tomorrow he would be ready. Why? Because he is very professional and he trains very well.
"We don't have a secret to keep them happy because we don't keep them happy. We may have a secret to make them work every day at a high level."
One of those frustrated players appears to be Petr Cech, who this term has been displaced as number one by Thibaut Courtois.
Mourinho says the long-serving Czech is one of the top three goalkeepers in the world, but would have no problem bringing a fit-again Courtois back in at Stoke.
"I put the team up," the Chelsea boss said when asked how Cech would find out.
"It's my decision and the players may not be happy with the decision, or not agree with the decision, but they know my decision is not to favor somebody or to punish somebody.
"It's what I think is best for the team at a certain moment. This is the way I do it. It's one of the first things I say to every squad at the beginning of the season: I don't give explanations to players unless they ask me for one.
"If somebody come to me and ask me to explain, obviously [no problem]. But, by principle, I don't explain things. I have to see if Courtois is 99 per cent or 100 per cent. If he's 99 per cent he doesn't play for sure.
"I have to make life easy for me. If I explain to one, I have to give them all explanations. In Christmas, I'd spend all the time giving explanations."
Mourinho gave a curt response when one Chelsea player knocked on his door - "I said [the other guy] was playing better, closed door, goodbye" - and says even the likes of Mario Balotelli and Iker Casillas did not approach him at former clubs.
"It's the concept of helping the team," he explained. "The one that comes on in the last five minutes, he can be a crucial player.
"If he makes a mistake, the team loses. If he does well, the team wins. It is the concept of the team - everybody wins, everybody loses."
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/mourinho-admits-some-players-are-unhappy-at-chelsea-122214 (http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/mourinho-admits-some-players-are-unhappy-at-chelsea-122214)
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Post by: Spursy on December 23, 2014, 01:38:43 PM
Chelsea FC are three points clear at the top after goals from John Terry and Cesc Fàbregas secured a 2-0 win at Stoke City FC in their final pre-Christmas game.
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• Chelsea FC restore three-point advantage at the top of the league with win at Stoke City FC.
• John Terry heads early opener to set Blues on way to 13th success in 17 league matches.
• Cesc Fàbregas's second Premier League goal of season secures points in 78th minute.
Post by: Spursy on December 30, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
DECEMBER 28TH, 2014 BY THOMAS HAUTMANN
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Chelsea fans, it’s time.
Time to start drawing up your Premier League title parade plans and ramp up the talk trash to your rivals, because the Blues are winning the league this season. Book it!
Why are we so confident? Jose Mourinho has never squandered a league title in which his team has been in first place on December 25th. Never.
In fact, it seems as if that is a prerequisite for “The Special One.” All seven of his titles have come after his team was on top at Christmas, and he’s failed to win a title in which that hasn’t been the case.
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http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/106417643172/history-says-chelsea-will-win-the-premier-league (http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/106417643172/history-says-chelsea-will-win-the-premier-league)
Post by: Spursy on December 30, 2014, 02:39:07 PM
Published: Tuesday 30 December 2014, 10.48CET
Champions Matchday recalls Chelsea FC's debut on club football's greatest stage in 1999, 44 years after they were denied the chance to play in the inaugural European Cup.
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It was a long 44 years since Chelsea FC had been denied the opportunity to enter the inaugural European Champion Clubs' Cup in 1955. But having finished third behind treble winners Manchester United FC and Arsène Wenger's Arsenal FC in 1999, the Londoners finally made their first foray into the UEFA Champions League with a qualifying tie against serial Latvian title winners Skonto FC.
Manager Gianluca Vialli was only 35, but he named a team crammed with leaders in the first leg at Stamford Bridge. Indeed, of his starting XI, Dan Petrescu, Didier Deschamps, Gustavo Poyet, Chris Sutton, Dennis Wise, Albert Ferrer and Gianfranco Zola would all become head coaches.
Ferrer, Deschamps and Marcel Desailly had already lifted Europe's biggest prize and nine of the squad, including the manager, had featured in Chelsea's 1998 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup triumph – not to mention Deschamps, Desailly and Frank Leboeuf's 1998 FIFA World Cup winners' medals.
In a way, Chelsea could be described as the most experienced debutants in European history. For Skonto, it was their fifth time in the competition. They had defeated Luxembourg's AS Jeunesse Esch 10-0 and Romania's FC Rapid Bucureşti 5-4 in the earlier rounds. Aleksandrs Starkovs was the man in charge and the visitors possessed a core of players who would feature for him in Latvia's UEFA EURO 2004 campaign – the country's only major final tournament appearance.
Future Skonto chairman Vladimirs Koļeņičenko and Arsenal defender Igors Stepanovs were on the bench as the game kicked off in west London, but Juris Laizāns – later part of PFC CSKA Moskva's 2005 UEFA Cup-winning squad – and captain Vitālijs Astafjevs, who would earn more caps than any other European player with 167 for Latvia, both started.
The Blues had an unbeaten European home record spanning 27 matches in the UEFA Cup and Cup Winners' Cup, yet they took a while to click against the Riga-based club. Skonto were reduced to ten men after 33 minutes, but the contest remained scoreless until two substitutes combined with 14 minutes left.
Tore André Flo chested the ball to Celestine Babayaro – who five years earlier had become the youngest ever UEFA Champions League player while at RSC Anderlecht – and the Nigerian struck low and hard into the net.
Two minutes later Poyet rounded off a fantastic passing move by curling past goalkeeper Aleksandrs Koļinko, before Sutton made it 3-0 with a smart finish on the turn – his first Chelsea goal. Afterwards Vialli said: "I'm happy with that: 3-0 is better than 2-0. We can go to Latvia with confidence."
A fortnight later in Riga he rang the changes, with six different players beginning the return leg. In front of 5,000 home fans brandishing airhorns, the English team saw out a 0-0 draw, the most notable aspect being the introduction of Carlo Cudicini, who replaced Ed de Goey late on. The Italian keeper had been on the bench for AC Milan in the 1993 final, while his father Fabio had won the tournament with the Rossoneri in 1969.
Vialli said: "We have some exciting times to look forward to." He wasn't wrong. The Blues would score 22 goals – including eight from Flo – and overcome Milan, Feyenoord, Olympique de Marseille and Galatasaray AŞ en route to a thrilling 6-4 aggregate loss to FC Barcelona in the quarter-finals.
Chelsea would be back in 2003, with signings including Damien Duff, Juan Sebastián Verón and Geremi starting their first match against MŠK Žilina – heralding the dawning of a new era under Roman Abramovich.
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2190396.html (http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2190396.html)
Post by: Deeks on January 01, 2015, 12:42:36 PM
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Post by: asylumseeker on January 01, 2015, 01:07:10 PM
Upon post-match review, Cahill should be sanctioned for that kick in Kane's back.
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Post by: asylumseeker on January 02, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
Regarding Willan ... any comments from fans or detractors?
What does Mourinho value in this player's contribution?
Post by: elan on January 02, 2015, 01:18:12 PM
Regarding Willan ... any comments from fans or detractors?
What does Mourinho value in this player's contribution?
I think he is a hybrid Ramirez who Jose has shown that he like/d. Box-to-box
The problem with William though is that he still struggles when the game becomes physical, whereas Ramirez has no problem playing the physical game. Willian however, is much more creative and technical than Ramirez is. He works about 10% less than Ramirez, but his creativity and superior technique makes up for this.
Therefore, I think Jose prefers to take his chances now with Willian who has shown great improvement (like Hazard) from last season to this season. I suspect Jose will be hammering away at Willian to make tackles and improve his ball winning ability (not hide after he receives a couple crunching tackles) to cement his game.
Post by: asylumseeker on January 07, 2015, 11:01:19 AM
Regarding Willan ... any comments from fans or detractors?
What does Mourinho value in this player's contribution?
I think he is a hybrid Ramirez who Jose has shown that he like/d. Box-to-box
The problem with William though is that he still struggles when the game becomes physical, whereas Ramirez has no problem playing the physical game. Willian however, is much more creative and technical than Ramirez is. He works about 10% less than Ramirez, but his creativity and superior technique makes up for this.
Therefore, I think Jose prefers to take his chances now with Willian who has shown great improvement (like Hazard) from last season to this season. I suspect Jose will be hammering away at Willian to make tackles and improve his ball winning ability (not hide after he receives a couple crunching tackles) to cement his game.
You took the discussion in a direction I hoped it would get to.
In observing Ramires in the loss to Spurs, I found him to be immediately incisive in the final third, particularly in the penalty area. Found it telling that Mourinho turned to him to resolve the problem presented. Ramires gets more shots off also.
However, is it valid to compare Willan and Ramires? Is this a distinction through which Mourinho frames things?
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Post by: lefty on January 20, 2015, 02:33:40 PM
http://goatd.net/101043/watch-liverpool-vs-chelsea
Post by: elan on January 20, 2015, 03:20:56 PM
Post by: lefty on January 20, 2015, 03:37:39 PM
Fabregas played Gerard off the pitch.
yeah but liverpool pressure was still heavy throughout ....dat sterling is ah exceptional talent though....jeezan
Post by: elan on January 20, 2015, 03:40:01 PM
Fabregas played Gerard off the pitch.
yeah but liverpool pressure was still heavy throughout ....dat sterling is ah exceptional talent though....jeezan
It's funny that they are forcing him into the role Balo should be playing. This way that Liverpool is playing if they had done that when Balo first came he would have been successful and Liverpool would have been more successful too.
Post by: lefty on January 20, 2015, 03:41:57 PM
Fabregas played Gerard off the pitch.
yeah but liverpool pressure was still heavy throughout ....dat sterling is ah exceptional talent though....jeezan
It's funny that they are forcing him into the role Balo should be playing. This way that Liverpool is playing if they had done that when Balo first came he would have been successful and Liverpool would have been more successful too.
what about he injured ???
Post by: Bakes on January 20, 2015, 03:46:35 PM
Fabregas played Gerard off the pitch.
That's something to brag about? Gerrard is 35, slowing down and just coming off a hamstring injury. You should be more worried that Henderson played Fabregas off the pitch. For all the big side Chelsea supposed to be a big side, they have an interesting habit of morphing into a mid-table club when faced with real competition away from home. One shot on goal whole game... and that was the penalty.
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 20, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
Post by: Bakes on January 20, 2015, 04:42:54 PM
Good game...Brendan Rodgers should not have abandoned the philosophy at the beginning of the season; newbies should have been made to fall in line. Our defending is getting better; midfield is livelier; just need to get Sturridge back. Not sure Balo could fit in to this style, cause he does not run the channels.
That right there is the problem. The same elan who earlier in the season was criticizing Rodgers for not tweaking Liverpool style to suit Balotelli, now saying is ah pity Rodgers didn't play his preferred style all along because Balo woulda be successful, lol. Balotelli played in two matches since the Bournemouth win (when the new tweak was implemented) and still eh make ah note. He just doesn't play to suit the style... at least not yet. Still holding out hope that he'll adjust, if not he getting sell this summer.
Post by: Spursy on January 23, 2015, 12:28:09 PM
Jose Mourinho has insisted Chelsea have no plans to sell or buy in the January transfer window, playing down reports of imminent exits for World Cup winner Andre Schurrle and Mohamed Salah.
The Blues boss says both Germany forward Schurrle and Egypt winger Salah will be in the squad for Saturday's FA Cup fourth-round tie with League One Bradford, a game for which captain John Terry will drop to the bench.
"The club doesn't move. We don't move. Our desire is to keep the same squad," Mourinho said.
"The window is open, but what I can say is I like them, I need them and I trust them.
"We are happy with the players, we are happy with the work we did in the summer to prepare for the season, (it) reflects the trust we have in the group and, if possible, we don't want to be involved in the transfer window.
"If we have to be it's because somebody pushed us, with some offer for our player, but Chelsea moving and looking for a change? No.
"Sometimes we have needs, like we had in the past transfer windows where we sold some players.
"The reality is normally nothing should happen in the next two weeks and we should go to February with the same squad."
Salah has found first-team opportunities limited this season and has been linked with a move to Roma.
A Bundesliga return for Schurrle has been suggested, with Wolfsburg mentioned.
If a move were to happen, it would take a "phenomenal offer" and a player indicating his desire to switch, Mourinho says.
"The principle is that we would like him to stay," Mourinho added.
"The question is not to be allowed or not allowed. The question is to have a phenomenal offer and a player to be super keen of accepting a new challenge in his career.
"We don't want to sell our players."
Fiorentina's Colombia winger Juan Cuadrado has been linked with a move to Chelsea.
Mourinho, who insisted Chelsea do not have players lined up to join them if a player is sold, added: "I shouldn't make any comments about players from other clubs. You speak about Cuadrado, you can speak about 10, 20 players.
"It's my job to know them all. I think he fits well in Fiorentina's squad and Colombia's squad, not in Chelsea's squad."
Schurrle began the season full of confidence after setting up the World Cup-clinching goal in Brazil last July, but is currently finding opportunities hard to come by at Stamford Bridge.
Mourinho said: "I consider him an important player, (but) unless I find a tactical system with three wingers, it's difficult to be in front of Eden (Hazard) and Willian.
"He's not a kid to moan. He's a good professional. He works always well."
Schurrle is to start against Bradford, with Petr Cech to play in goal after Thibaut Courtois returned for the midweek Capital One Cup semi-final first leg at Liverpool.
Cech played last weekend's match at Swansea as Courtois was still nursing a minor thumb problem and Mourinho has no concerns with managing two goalkeepers he believes are among the world's best.
"It's my easiest decision," he said.
"No other manager in the world is so happy and comfortable as I am about the problems I have in goal."
Mourinho will make changes for Bradford, with Tuesday's second leg with Liverpool at Stamford Bridge in mind.
There is also the small matter of a Premier League encounter with Manchester City, who are five points behind the leaders in second place, on January 31.
The Portuguese added: "We have two knockout matches in three days, so we can after Tuesday we can be in four competitions or only two. Of course we want to try to be in all four.
"The third match is just a Premier League match, one of 38, and that is different. It doesn't decide anything, but Bradford and Liverpool, yes. They decide if we are still in the competition."
Chelsea, who play Paris St Germain in the Champions League last 16 next month, remain on course for a quadruple which Mourinho says is "almost impossible" due to fixture congestion as much as anything.
"It's very difficult," Mourinho said.
"A team that plays the Capital One Cup final will have one game in the Premier League postponed. A team that plays the FA Cup semi-final will have a game postponed. A team that gets a draw in the FA Cup has to play another game.
"If a team is in all these competitions plus the European competition until the end of the season, (there) will arrive a moment in April, May so, so difficult that I would say almost impossible."
Link: http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/mourinho-denies-schurrle-and-salah-to-leave-chelsea-in-january-012315
Post by: elan on January 24, 2015, 10:42:24 AM
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Post by: soccerman on January 31, 2015, 01:15:26 PM
I feel Kompany owe people money... :thinking:Lol
Post by: ribbit on February 18, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/group-soccer-fans-prevent-black-man-boarding-train-102708243.html
steups.
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Post by: Bakes on February 23, 2015, 12:22:09 PM
So no action taken by the FA on Ashley Barnes tackle on Matic. Martin Atkinson saw that tackle on the field during play and thought that it was fair and okay.
Or maybe Atkinson saw the play but not the full extent of it... that being the case, probably not enough for retrospective discipline. Not the same as saying that there was nothing wrong with the play.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 23, 2015, 02:58:25 PM
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Post by: lefty on March 11, 2015, 05:40:28 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 12, 2015, 09:26:41 AM
playin defensive cacahole ball when we ah man up steups.........a blind man could see dis chelsea does play better when they actually play......jose micro management will continue to cost this team.....steups.........should have been much further ahead in d league too
Dude poor marking on set pieces did us in, nothing else.
Post by: Bakes on March 12, 2015, 09:36:51 AM
playin defensive cacahole ball when we ah man up steups.........a blind man could see dis chelsea does play better when they actually play......jose micro management will continue to cost this team.....steups.........should have been much further ahead in d league too
Dude poor marking on set pieces did us in, nothing else.
Not conceding 49% possession and a number of good scoring chances to a team that played the equivalent of a full game a man down?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 12, 2015, 12:24:55 PM
All of that is irrelevant if we defend those corners. If we defended the corners better we win. Simple as that. Credit to PSG because on defense they took care of business for the most part.playin defensive cacahole ball when we ah man up steups.........a blind man could see dis chelsea does play better when they actually play......jose micro management will continue to cost this team.....steups.........should have been much further ahead in d league too
Dude poor marking on set pieces did us in, nothing else.
Not conceding 49% possession and a number of good scoring chances to a team that played the equivalent of a full game a man down?
Post by: Sam on March 13, 2015, 03:40:42 AM
It good for them.
Rafael Benítez was de best coach for Chelsea.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 13, 2015, 10:33:20 AM
Jose Mourinho killing Chelsea and he boaring ass football.
It good for them.
Rafael Benítez was de best coach for Chelsea.
Leh Rafa haul he muddazcont
Post by: lefty on March 13, 2015, 10:36:51 AM
Jose Mourinho killing Chelsea and he boaring ass football.
It good for them.
Rafael Benítez was de best coach for Chelsea.
Leh Rafa haul he muddazcont
steups rafa had dis team playin good ball
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 13, 2015, 10:39:10 AM
Jose Mourinho killing Chelsea and he boaring ass football.
It good for them.
Rafael Benítez was de best coach for Chelsea.
Leh Rafa haul he muddazcont
steups rafa had dis team playin good ball
Go and support Napoli den nah. It eh hard
Post by: lefty on March 13, 2015, 10:42:25 AM
Jose Mourinho killing Chelsea and he boaring ass football.
It good for them.
Rafael Benítez was de best coach for Chelsea.
Leh Rafa haul he muddazcont
steups rafa had dis team playin good ball
Go and support Napoli den nah. It eh hard
me eh know wha alyuh issues is, man doh like how jose runnin d team, dey doh like it.... is called free will.....f**k off :beermug: and have a nice day too
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 13, 2015, 01:08:58 PM
Jose Mourinho killing Chelsea and he boaring ass football.
It good for them.
Rafael Benítez was de best coach for Chelsea.
Leh Rafa haul he muddazcont
steups rafa had dis team playin good ball
Go and support Napoli den nah. It eh hard
me eh know wha alyuh issues is, man doh like how jose runnin d team, dey doh like it.... is called free will.....f**k off :beermug: and have a nice day too
Dan haul yuh whiney cont nah. Always f**kin complainin. If CFC stressin yuh so much bast yuh support ah nex team. Me eh know wey yuh exciting yuhself so for
Post by: Deeks on March 22, 2015, 10:10:24 AM
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Post by: Bitter on April 04, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
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Post by: lefty on April 04, 2015, 11:28:48 AM
Charlie Adam!
:notworthy: :notworthy:
ent .......don't tink courtios was lookin for him dey
Post by: Bitter on April 04, 2015, 11:44:25 AM
Costa need a psychiatrist, or a better physio?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 04, 2015, 12:28:13 PM
Charlie Adam!
:notworthy: :notworthy:
ent .......don't tink courtios was lookin for him dey
Ah know it's a stretch, but did Courtois touch that? Haven't seen a definitive replay yet.
Post by: Bakes on April 04, 2015, 01:54:15 PM
Post by: elan on April 04, 2015, 02:03:08 PM
Yeah he got a mitt to it. Audacious goal... but nobody talking about the goalkeeping? Of the 40+ keepers in the Prem, Courtois is the last one I'd expect to get lobbed from 65 yards. Not only because of his height, but because of his overall excellent standard of play this season.
First that wasn't a lob, secondly height has nothing to do with that goal. Courtois was in great position for where the ball was. Adams went for it and it worked. Can't blame (not saying you are) for that. Just got to applaud.
Post by: Bakes on April 04, 2015, 02:36:28 PM
First that wasn't a lob, secondly height has nothing to do with that goal. Courtois was in great position for where the ball was. Adams went for it and it worked. Can't blame (not saying you are) for that. Just got to applaud.
Whether you want to quibble with whether that was a lob or not, no goalkeeper should be beaten by a shot taken from ten yards inside the opposing half. There is 'coming off the line' and then there is "going for a walkabout." Courtois was actually outside the penalty area (standing in the semi-circle) when Adams took the shot. What was he doing 18 yards from goal? If he was in 'great' position then the shot should not have scored. Fantastic effort by Adams but it was always speculative from that distance. Yes, I'm faulting Courtois.
Post by: elan on April 04, 2015, 04:57:41 PM
First that wasn't a lob, secondly height has nothing to do with that goal. Courtois was in great position for where the ball was. Adams went for it and it worked. Can't blame (not saying you are) for that. Just got to applaud.
Whether you want to quibble with whether that was a lob or not, no goalkeeper should be beaten by a shot taken from ten yards inside the opposing half. There is 'coming off the line' and then there is "going for a walkabout." Courtois was actually outside the penalty area (standing in the semi-circle) when Adams took the shot. What was he doing 18 yards from goal? If he was in 'great' position then the shot should not have scored. Fantastic effort by Adams but it was always speculative from that distance. Yes, I'm faulting Courtois.
Don't have to argue, but if you understand strategy and tactics you would not say that Courtois was on a "walk about". The fact that he was beaten from that distance tells you it was not a lob. Players don't "lob" 59 yard balls.
It's a quality goal.
Post by: Bakes on April 04, 2015, 09:06:12 PM
Don't have to argue, but if you understand strategy and tactics you would not say that Courtois was on a "walk about". The fact that he was beaten from that distance tells you it was not a lob. Players don't "lob" 59 yard balls.
It's a quality goal.
You don't "have" to argue because you have no argument. When is it ever good "strategy and tactics" to have your keeper stand outside the penalty area, let alone with the action just inside the opponent's half? It's not like it was a corner on the other end. Apparently the so-called "Special One" doesn't understand your brand of strategy and tactics either... since he too is faulting Courtois.
As for your literally pointless argument that it was not a "lob'... many others are describing it as a lob (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=courtois%20lobbed%20by%20adams).
Post by: Deeks on April 12, 2015, 06:00:29 PM
Post by: lefty on April 12, 2015, 07:40:42 PM
Aye Allyuh Chelsea win 1-0 today. QPR fought them tooth and nail. I surprised no comments.
dey runnin on fumes now......next two weeks will test their staying power to the limit Man U and arsenal back to back............if they get through that without losing AND with at least one win, they might be free and clear especially if dey manage to beat arsenal.........but is ah long and treacherous road ahead........still tink we throw way four point against d manchesters in d first half of d season, playin too cautious but say what, we on top
Post by: lefty on April 18, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
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Post by: Bourbon on April 19, 2015, 03:17:16 PM
Conceding 71% possession with 4 starters missing from your opponent at home. Yeah Jose doesn't care.
Same thing next week most likely. Although he likes to advantage Wenger so maybe he'd go for more than one goal.
Post by: lefty on April 19, 2015, 06:21:54 PM
Even before yesterday... Chelsea just needed 8. And unless Jose has to win against a big side... He will only do one thing.
Conceding 71% possession with 4 starters missing from your opponent at home. Yeah Jose doesn't care.
Same thing next week most likely. Although he likes to advantage Wenger so maybe he'd go for more than one goal.
unless chelsea score three early goal or concede or arsenal ketch ah red. jose not goin an let dem horse out d stable....goh be shock if he do dat, if i were to be honest
Post by: lefty on April 26, 2015, 11:03:09 AM
Post by: elan on April 26, 2015, 04:49:54 PM
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Post by: Bakes on April 27, 2015, 12:33:29 AM
Eva need to be fired.
Post by: lefty on April 29, 2015, 02:38:34 PM
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Post by: lefty on April 29, 2015, 02:59:28 PM
Ramires finish was sweet! He just stroke it into the net.
ent :applause: :applause: :applause: :salute: :salute:
Post by: elan on April 29, 2015, 10:10:40 PM
Hazard deserve PoY award.
Eva need to be fired.
Because she had the same vantage point as you did including all the replays to show exactly what happened and that his hands went stiff. A doctor should be able to see clear across the field what happened in a clash of that nature. At full speed it did not even look like he got hit in his head.
By the time she got to Oscar he war oriented. And apparently she knew what she was doing as he was on the bench today available for selection 2 days later.
Maybe that's why she's a Doctor.
Post by: Bakes on April 30, 2015, 11:27:16 AM
Because she had the same vantage point as you did including all the replays to show exactly what happened and that his hands went stiff. A doctor should be able to see clear across the field what happened in a clash of that nature. At full speed it did not even look like he got hit in his head.
By the time she got to Oscar he war oriented. And apparently she knew what she was doing as he was on the bench today available for selection 2 days later.
Maybe that's why she's a Doctor.
You real jokey yes. I bet you everybody on that sideline saw Oscar's hands "went stiff". I also bet you that Oscar didn't go from being dazed with a blank stare to being "oriented" in the 30-45 seconds it took her to get to him. The fact that he was available for selection two days later is besides the point... was he NOT rushed to the hospital at halftime? You think it's proper to tend to a player on the field for a head injury, send him back on to finish 10+ minutes of action... then rush him to the hospital? You on kicks.
If this was the only incident it would be one thing, but this is the second time in 6-7 months she/the medical staff okayed a player to continue playing, only to later rush them off to hospital upon second thoughts. The concussion/injury protocol needs to change before somebody ends up dying, only then allyuh will look beyond club colors and start being serious about player safety.
Post by: elan on April 30, 2015, 01:33:22 PM
Because she had the same vantage point as you did including all the replays to show exactly what happened and that his hands went stiff. A doctor should be able to see clear across the field what happened in a clash of that nature. At full speed it did not even look like he got hit in his head.
By the time she got to Oscar he war oriented. And apparently she knew what she was doing as he was on the bench today available for selection 2 days later.
Maybe that's why she's a Doctor.
You real jokey yes. I bet you everybody on that sideline saw Oscar's hands "went stiff". I also bet you that Oscar didn't go from being dazed with a blank stare to being "oriented" in the 30-45 seconds it took her to get to him. The fact that he was available for selection two days later is besides the point... was he NOT rushed to the hospital at halftime? You think it's proper to tend to a player on the field for a head injury, send him back on to finish 10+ minutes of action... then rush him to the hospital? You on kicks.
If this was the only incident it would be one thing, but this is the second time in 6-7 months she/the medical staff okayed a player to continue playing, only to later rush them off to hospital upon second thoughts. The concussion/injury protocol needs to change before somebody ends up dying, only then allyuh will look beyond club colors and start being serious about player safety.
You're sure about something that you cannot be sure about. Yet I am jokey being sure about the opposite of what you are sure about. Got you.
A Dr. and a medical staff making a decision on a medical situation. How much more crazy can this world get.
Oscar played out the half with (seemingly) no problems. He did not look as though he was in any trouble.
He was not rushed to hospital. As in many situation, the player was taken to hospital as further precaution at which time (apparently) the decision taken pitch side that he was okay was substantiated.
You can say all you want, but Eva and other Drs. are put in those situations for their expertise. If their diagnosis cannot be respected, then they should just have a trainer load players into the ambulance and cart them off to the hospital.
A commentator in a studio or a fan in front of a television cannot usurp the decision of an experienced Dr.
Chelsea and Mourinho knows first hand the dangers of head injuries and the importance of Drs. at pitch side to which I believe they will err on the side of caution.
Post by: Bakes on April 30, 2015, 02:49:59 PM
You're sure about something that you cannot be sure about. Yet I am jokey being sure about the opposite of what you are sure about. Got you.
A Dr. and a medical staff making a decision on a medical situation. How much more crazy can this world get.
Oscar played out the half with (seemingly) no problems. He did not look as though he was in any trouble.
He was not rushed to hospital. As in many situation, the player was taken to hospital as further precaution at which time (apparently) the decision taken pitch side that he was okay was substantiated.
You can say all you want, but Eva and other Drs. are put in those situations for their expertise. If their diagnosis cannot be respected, then they should just have a trainer load players into the ambulance and cart them off to the hospital.
A commentator in a studio or a fan in front of a television cannot usurp the decision of an experienced Dr.
Chelsea and Mourinho knows first hand the dangers of head injuries and the importance of Drs. at pitch side to which I believe they will err on the side of caution.
Where did I say I was "sure" about anything? If you think that it makes sense logically, to send a player who suffered a head injury back into the game, then within the hour send him to the hospital "as a precaution" (on two separate occasions) then what ah go tell yuh.
The medical team essentially say "he arrite man, let him finish de half and we go send him to the hospital halftime, juss in case." Is either he was fine to continue or he needed to go to the hospital as a precaution, to say that he was both is an unnecessary gamble but once is de doctors making that gamble you good with that. One wonders if that was your child if you'd have that much faith and confidence under the same circumstances.
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Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 21, 2015, 02:16:08 PM
Post by: Flex on August 11, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
AFP
London (AFP) - Chelsea have sidelined team doctor Eva Carneiro from match-day duties after she fell foul of manager Jose Mourinho, according to British media reports on Tuesday.
Mourinho criticised Carneiro after she ran on the pitch to treat Eden Hazard in stoppage time of Chelsea's 2-2 draw at home to Swansea City on Saturday, saying she did not "understand the game".
After receiving support from fans, Carneiro wrote on her Facebook page: "I would like to thank the general public for their overwhelming support. Really very much appreciated."
The Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail said that while Carneiro would continue in her role as first-team doctor, she would no longer attend games or training sessions or enter the team hotel.
Mourinho felt that Carneiro had been wrong to go to Hazard's aid as his side pushed for a winner against Swansea at Stamford Bridge.
"I wasn't happy with my medical staff because even if you are a medical doctor or secretary on the bench, you have to understand the game," he told reporters after the match.
"If you go to the pitch to assist a player, then you must be sure that a player has a serious problem. I was sure that Eden didn't have a serious problem. He had a knock and was very tired.
"My medical department left me with eight fit outfield players in a counter-attack after a set-piece and we were worried we didn't have enough players left."
Carneiro joined Chelsea in February 2009 and was promoted to the role of first-team doctor and assistant medical director by Andre Villas-Boas, one of Mourinho's predecessors, in 2011.
The Telegraph and the Mail said her role had been changed as part of a shake-up of back-room staff by Mourinho.
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Post by: Deeks on August 11, 2015, 04:09:27 PM
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Post by: Blue on August 12, 2015, 01:21:10 PM
She been skating on Thin ice since that Arsenal game when Oscar sustained a concussion and was allowed to return, only to be taken off at the half and sent to the hospital in an ambulance. When you look at that and this, one might be tempted to say that with Oscar she was probably attempting to game manage, but I liken the two to a player who passes when he should shoot and shoots when he should pass. In either situation the result is a botched play. Jose have plenty haters and detractors and they are having a field day with this. However the only reason this generates so much attention is because 1. Jose mentioned it, 2. Eva is a woman, and 3. she is attractive. I doubt most people can name 2 other physios especially of teams they don't support, yet everyone knows Eva and by name. Naturally many will claim she was only doing her job, yet I personally do not think what Jose said about understanding the game is unreasonable. What if Hazard was seriously injured which is the next fantasy statement many have made, the counter is he would have made the universal football signal that players make after sustaining a serious injury. He eh no rookie that drop from space.
Jose is being an idiot and noone will support him on this. It would be terrible PR for the club if he is allowed to demote her. She is not there to help the team win the game she is there to look after the welfare of the players. She suceeded at her job, Jose failed at his. He should have reserved his anger for Courtois, cuz Eva certainly didnt cause us to drop points.
And when Oscar got injured, Jose claimed that he deferred to his medical team on all medical decisions. He needs to continue doing that.
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2015, 02:56:37 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 13, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
She been skating on Thin ice since that Arsenal game when Oscar sustained a concussion and was allowed to return, only to be taken off at the half and sent to the hospital in an ambulance. When you look at that and this, one might be tempted to say that with Oscar she was probably attempting to game manage, but I liken the two to a player who passes when he should shoot and shoots when he should pass. In either situation the result is a botched play. Jose have plenty haters and detractors and they are having a field day with this. However the only reason this generates so much attention is because 1. Jose mentioned it, 2. Eva is a woman, and 3. she is attractive. I doubt most people can name 2 other physios especially of teams they don't support, yet everyone knows Eva and by name. Naturally many will claim she was only doing her job, yet I personally do not think what Jose said about understanding the game is unreasonable. What if Hazard was seriously injured which is the next fantasy statement many have made, the counter is he would have made the universal football signal that players make after sustaining a serious injury. He eh no rookie that drop from space.
Jose is being an idiot and noone will support him on this. It would be terrible PR for the club if he is allowed to demote her. She is not there to help the team win the game she is there to look after the welfare of the players. She suceeded at her job, Jose failed at his. He should have reserved his anger for Courtois, cuz Eva certainly didnt cause us to drop points.
And when Oscar got injured, Jose claimed that he deferred to his medical team on all medical decisions. He needs to continue doing that.
The bold is why I believe this whole thing is a build up. Jose handle this poorly because he should have never opened his mouth and say what he said in the post match presser. But even if he didn't say anything, everyone saw how incensed he was and how he carry on. So anytime Eva turned up missing it would have been noted and attributed to his reaction anyway. This is a mess but I am not so sure that is Jose pull the strings on the move tho. They say da woman behind Abaramovic is ah beast no matter how pretty she looks and she does call the shots. It have more to this than what seems obvious tho.
Post by: Tallman on August 13, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
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Post by: Peong on August 13, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
Plus Swansea were really outplaying Chelsea in the 2nd half.
He have some serious tactical analysis to do.
Hush yuh mout and coach yuh team.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 22, 2015, 01:36:44 AM
By Gary Neville (The Telegraph).
There are steps you can walk down, or there is a cliff you can fall straight off. I suggest Chelsea and John Terry use the steps, because he should be a vital presence over the next three seasons, irrespective of the embarrassment he will have felt at being taken off at half-time at Manchester City last weekend.
The cliff is painful, and comes at a cost: not least, potentially uprooting your family, with a fresh start late in life, at an unfamiliar club, or even early retirement. None of this need apply here. Jose Mourinho’s challenge will be to ‘transition’ Terry out of the team over the next few seasons and the player himself will have to accept a reduced role: willingly, rather than as an insult.
Terry and their transfer target, John Stones, could play 25 or 35 games each for Chelsea in the transition phase. All parties would benefit. If Chelsea were to have Terry, Gary Cahill, Stones and Kurt Zouma – what a quartet of centre-backs that would be. You need four at title-winning and Champions League level, though of course Mourinho loves a settled back-four.
First, a thought on the substitution itself in Man City’s 3-0 win last Sunday. I had not seen a striker run away from Terry the way Sergio Aguero did in the first 15 seconds or be beaten by a ball over his head, as he was in the 35th minute, since Andre Villas-Boas made the Chelsea defence play five yards off the halfway line (a dangerously high line).
So there were worrying signs for Mourinho to deal with. But consider the other factors. First, it’s early in the season, and you can be caught out fitness-wise, or make those errors early in the campaign. Terry, still, is a magnificent defender, for whom I have enormous respect. I played for England with him for a lot of years and love him as a player.
Across football there is mishandling of 32 to 34-year-olds. Didier Drogba was moved out of Chelsea, then brought back in. Steven Gerrard should still be at Liverpool. There is no way he should be kicking a football for LA Galaxy. At Liverpool on Monday night, Jordan Henderson went off injured with his team 1-0 up. Why could Gerrard not come in those circumstances to do a job, to provide control and experience? Staleness is a crime in football, but in a 23-man squad you need two or three stalwarts who manage the changing room, are good pros, set the standards around the club.
Terry doesn’t need advice from me, but in these situations I would always say: relax, enjoy what’s to come, realise that 25 games for Chelsea is better than 45 for the Orlando Owls or the Tasmanian Tigers. Equally Mourinho has to be happy with it and know the player will not be disruptive.
Last season we saw difficulties when Gerrard was left out by Liverpool at Real Madrid; this year we have seen Terry suffer at Man City. But the message is: ‘Look, lads, it doesn’t have to be like this.’
At 18, you find yourself put into a team, then pulled back out, then put back in. The cycle of a career requires acceptance and tolerance at both ends: club and player. Terry coming off in a game last week was embarrassing for him but most pros know that feeling. It happened to me against Manchester City, just after half-time. I’ll always remember thinking: ‘I want to be at home. I don’t want people looking at me. I don’t want to speak to people.’ I recall sitting in Sir Alex Ferguson’s office the following Monday morning for one of the longest meetings I ever had with him.
He told me what I’d done wrong, explained why he wasn’t happy with my performance. But the next half hour of the chat was about where I stood in the team, my future at the club – in a positive sense. It’s all about man management of the player. There is no need for this black and white distinction: in the team or out; an important player still or finished.
There is a reason why Ryan Giggs played until he was 40 and Paul Scholes made it to 38. They accepted the shift into a different phase of their career: a change Gerrard struggled to accept last season. It was a challenge, too, to Frank Lampard at Chelsea.
So Mourinho hooking Terry at the Etihad has already led to this heated speculation about the demise of Terry and inevitable friction with the manager. There is no need for it. If Chelsea were to sign a John Stones, Terry becomes the most important player at Chelsea for the next three seasons. If Stones could watch Terry in games 15 times a season and in training three times a week then his own development will be greatly enhanced.
To stay at the club where you belong sounds better to me than wandering around the world to prolong your career. Terry should be at Chelsea until he is 36, 37 years of age. He might play only 20 games a season but they will be 20 very important ones; and the 200 training sessions will be crucial to the squad in maintaining that winning mentality.
There could be a situation brewing, too, for City and Yaya Youre. In the Chelsea game Toure was wilting after about 65 minutes. He has a vital role now at City. If he plays every Wednesday, every Saturday – and Manuel Pellegrini feels he has to pick him – it will be to the team’s detriment. It will cost them points. He has to be used in a clever manner, so his performances hit 100%, which is better than three at 75%. Once you get past 32 or 33 that becomes the choice.
I probably spoke to Sir Alex one-on-one more in my last two years than in my first 15 at Old Trafford. He was constantly managing me, saying – "Look son, you won’t be playing this weekend but I’ll need you in a week’s time. There’s a big job for you to do here. Go and have a chat with Rafael and look after him." The communication line was open.
So I hope John Terry and Mourinho have been sitting down. I hope they’ve had a laugh together. I hope they’ve talked it through - and that Terry is pulling the dressing room around him after a turbulent couple of weeks for the club.
It’s about acceptance and consultation. It cannot be that Terry either a) plays every game or b) leaves the club.
Jose Mourinho needs John Terry and John Terry needs Jose Mourinho.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 22, 2015, 01:50:04 AM
By Harry Redknapp (The Telegraph).
Chelsea are now five points behind Manchester City and Manchester United. Early days, obviously, but any more of this and there will be a picture on one of the back pages of the Chelsea badge split in half and headlines claiming that they are a club in crisis.
Is it a case of complacency after winning the title so easily last season? Knowing Jose Mourinho, I wouldn’t think so. He is not a manager who allows his players to coast, or to think they have it made. In his world, they have to fight for everything.
What I think happened at the Etihad – a result nobody, certainly not me, saw coming – was two fold. First, let’s not for a moment diminish what City did. They were excellent from first minute to last, from goalkeeper to centre forward, not forgetting their full backs who were brilliant.
If I’m honest, over the summer I wasn’t sure they would be a serious challenger. I thought they had lost their hunger. How wrong could I be? I saw them at West Brom and was blown away by that spine of Vincent Kompany, Yaya Touré and David Silva, the old guard right back on their game. And with Sergio Agüero leading the line – who, if he stays fit, will be uncatchable at the top of the Premier League scoring charts – they were fantastic. But however good they were, you don’t expect to see Chelsea so easily brushed aside. Never mind parking the bus, Jose appeared to have misplaced the keys. They never got started. They could easily have been three down within five minutes.
That they weren’t was thanks to my old Pompey keeper Asmir Begovic who showed what he is: one of the best six keepers in the Premier League. I for one was very surprised when he went to be number two at Chelsea. I could easily see him as the first choice at Manchester United or Liverpool. He can never have expected to be as busy as he was on his first appearance.
What I think is the problem is that for once this is a Chelsea team who are starting off the pace: this defeat, together with the draw against Swansea and the loss in the Community Shield represent a start that could not be much less convincing. Which is very unusual for a Mourinho side. When he first came to England to manage at Stamford Bridge, he reckoned that the Premier League was not a marathon, it was a sprint. He had his side so fit, so ready, they tore out of the blocks. So quick were they into their stride, no one could catch them. This season, they look under-cooked. He has said he wanted to give them longer time off in the summer, that he worried they went off the boil last season, so he was looking for them not to be exhausted too soon. Well, if that’s the case no one could accuse them of going off too quickly in Sunday’s game. City were at them straight away and Agüero was in behind their back line two or three times in the first 10 minutes.
Much of the reaction to their defeat will focus on John Terry. This was the first time Jose ever substituted him in a Premier League game. That is how important he has been to Chelsea over the last 10 years. But when I saw Kurt Zouma warming up before half-time, I feared it could be John coming off. It was clear Jose wanted them to play a higher line. But then if he had pushed up with John still there, then he would have opened himself up even more to Agüero getting in behind. He needed more pace in there. And you have to say, they looked more solid in the second half.
Clearly, the manager wants John Stones. But let’s be honest here, can you really see them winning the league with Stones and Gary Cahill at centre back? No, for me John Terry is still the man. He’s the leader, the motivator, a massive influence on the team. I just couldn’t see John ditched this early in the season. He’s simply too important. Besides, you have to look beyond the back four to see why Chelsea defended so poorly yesterday.
They had very little protection from the midfield. The manager brought in Ramires to play with Nemanja Matic but neither of them were strong enough, and they got easily bullied by Yaya Touré and Fernandinho. The tactic was to try to free Cesc Fabregas, who Jose doesn’t feel in can play in big away games as one of the holding two. But if he was hoping for more security, it back fired.
Fabregas in particular was way off the pace. The game almost passed him by; Yaya was not just running past him, he was running over the top of him.
Listen, I’m not going to write off Chelsea, there’s a long, long way to go. They could so easily now put together a run of seven or eight wins and be right back in contention. But what I think we saw yesterday is that they are not yet at the races. Which is no place to be when you face competition as good as this City side.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 31, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 01, 2015, 08:54:12 AM
What was the point of buying Filipe Luis last year and then having to purchase Baba Rahman this year? Players finding it hard to say no to Chel$ea, but will confront hard, cold reality after chasing the hard, cold ca$h. Mourinho will stand in a firing line for Azpilicueta and since playing time is key for any player who would ordinarily be a likely NT starter, going to Chelsea to sit on the bench is a non-starter of an idea. Literally.
The reality here is that Ivanovic performed so well last term @ RB even though his true position is CB, that Jose found it difficult to sit him. Why not sit Dave you ask? Well Dave was rock solid in defense. It was very extremely rare to see a successful cross come in from opponents right flank because Dave was very adept at dispossessing his mark and launching counters. His only weakness was his lack of ability with his left which meant limited crosses from our left side. So it isn't so much what you are making it out to be at all. In fact I imagine had Luis chosen to stay he probably would have been inserted already and Dave returned to the right. Iva was looking woeful since preseason but by then Luis had already made up his mind and the club obliged even if that is not what is being spoken in the press. JM making Iva a VC doesn't help either because it has meant that given such trust he had to give him a chance to get right. If Baba was ready to start last game I imagine he would have as the combo of preseason and the initial 3 games were enough for JM to spot the glaring weakness that Iva has represented this term. It also doesn't help that Matic has under-performed as well. I think Baba has come at the right time and has an opportunity to take that spot and claim it as his own. Even Kennedy looked like a breath of Fresh air was injected when he came on. The biggest mistake JM made on that day was letting the youngster replace Dave instead of sending Iva to the bench and Dave to the RB position.
Post by: Blue on September 01, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
What was the point of buying Filipe Luis last year and then having to purchase Baba Rahman this year? Players finding it hard to say no to Chel$ea, but will confront hard, cold reality after chasing the hard, cold ca$h. Mourinho will stand in a firing line for Azpilicueta and since playing time is key for any player who would ordinarily be a likely NT starter, going to Chelsea to sit on the bench is a non-starter of an idea. Literally.
The reality here is that Ivanovic performed so well last term @ RB even though his true position is CB, that Jose found it difficult to sit him. Why not sit Dave you ask? Well Dave was rock solid in defense. It was very extremely rare to see a successful cross come in from opponents right flank because Dave was very adept at dispossessing his mark and launching counters. His only weakness was his lack of ability with his left which meant limited crosses from our left side. So it isn't so much what you are making it out to be at all. In fact I imagine had Luis chosen to stay he probably would have been inserted already and Dave returned to the right. Iva was looking woeful since preseason but by then Luis had already made up his mind and the club obliged even if that is not what is being spoken in the press. JM making Iva a VC doesn't help either because it has meant that given such trust he had to give him a chance to get right. If Baba was ready to start last game I imagine he would have as the combo of preseason and the initial 3 games were enough for JM to spot the glaring weakness that Iva has represented this term. It also doesn't help that Matic has under-performed as well. I think Baba has come at the right time and has an opportunity to take that spot and claim it as his own. Even Kennedy looked like a breath of Fresh air was injected when he came on. The biggest mistake JM made on that day was letting the youngster replace Dave instead of sending Iva to the bench and Dave to the RB position.
Rahman was purchased as a squad player. In future years he might get more of a sweat. Felipe Luis wasnt happy with it and left, but Rahman must have known that was the role that was on offer before he arrived. He got here before our shaky start to the season and knew he was arriving at a club with the best defence in the Prem and would be competing for a spot with the best left back in the Prem.
Ivanovic has been our regular RB years ago, more or less since he joined Chelsea. That is his best position for us and a few lukewarm games to start the season does not make him a bad player. He has been great over the last 4 or 5 seasons, probaly our best player. He now has Pedro playing in front of him, who is not at strong defensively as Wilian and will take time to adapt. Benching him for a kid is not the answer, Ivanovic will come good.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 02, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
What was the point of buying Filipe Luis last year and then having to purchase Baba Rahman this year? Players finding it hard to say no to Chel$ea, but will confront hard, cold reality after chasing the hard, cold ca$h. Mourinho will stand in a firing line for Azpilicueta and since playing time is key for any player who would ordinarily be a likely NT starter, going to Chelsea to sit on the bench is a non-starter of an idea. Literally.
The reality here is that Ivanovic performed so well last term @ RB even though his true position is CB, that Jose found it difficult to sit him. Why not sit Dave you ask? Well Dave was rock solid in defense. It was very extremely rare to see a successful cross come in from opponents right flank because Dave was very adept at dispossessing his mark and launching counters. His only weakness was his lack of ability with his left which meant limited crosses from our left side. So it isn't so much what you are making it out to be at all. In fact I imagine had Luis chosen to stay he probably would have been inserted already and Dave returned to the right. Iva was looking woeful since preseason but by then Luis had already made up his mind and the club obliged even if that is not what is being spoken in the press. JM making Iva a VC doesn't help either because it has meant that given such trust he had to give him a chance to get right. If Baba was ready to start last game I imagine he would have as the combo of preseason and the initial 3 games were enough for JM to spot the glaring weakness that Iva has represented this term. It also doesn't help that Matic has under-performed as well. I think Baba has come at the right time and has an opportunity to take that spot and claim it as his own. Even Kennedy looked like a breath of Fresh air was injected when he came on. The biggest mistake JM made on that day was letting the youngster replace Dave instead of sending Iva to the bench and Dave to the RB position.
Rahman was purchased as a squad player. In future years he might get more of a sweat. Felipe Luis wasnt happy with it and left, but Rahman must have known that was the role that was on offer before he arrived. He got here before our shaky start to the season and knew he was arriving at a club with the best defence in the Prem and would be competing for a spot with the best left back in the Prem.
Ivanovic has been our regular RB years ago, more or less since he joined Chelsea. That is his best position for us and a few lukewarm games to start the season does not make him a bad player. He has been great over the last 4 or 5 seasons, probaly our best player. He now has Pedro playing in front of him, who is not at strong defensively as Wilian and will take time to adapt. Benching him for a kid is not the answer, Ivanovic will come good.
Iva was and still is a CB by trade. He has been shaky many times for us @CB so tbh I was happy he held down the RB spot. He only really gained a foothold on that spot when Dave was switched from right to left and used to replace Cole. Remember Cole left at the conclusion of the 13-14 season, So Iva hasn't been holding that position for even 2 years yet regularly and certainly not since he joined at all so check your facts bredrin. Great over the last 4 or 5?!! He had a great season last year, no other years have been great so unless you are an Iva fan I cah even understand where you get that from. Based on current form/play dating back to the end of last season and thru preseason Iva has struggled mightily at RB. With Dave being a natural RB it only makes sense considering his tremendous ability to dispossess opponents that if any one is removed from the starting XI it will be Iva. While I agree Rahman was brought on as a squad player to push for starting honors in time to come, his time may have arrived earlier than expected. How many games you want to see us get torn apart on our right side? How many games we need to drop points and it be a result of Iva either getting beat or being out of position? BTW no one said he was a bad player but he is struggling a lot and maybe needs a break to watch from the bench to regain his sense of positioning and fearlessness so that he not susceptible to being beaten by the slightest of feints. When Cahill was struggling didn't Zouma get a chance? What make Iva so unmovable?
Post by: injunchile on September 02, 2015, 10:36:46 AM
Watch Kennedy he greedy - a ball jumbie and he can shoot. With the kind of money them men getting one expects more than the mediocre performances by most of the players. 4points after four games is unacceptable . Coaches get fired for this kind of performance.
Post by: reggae-fan on September 02, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
The 23-year-old centre-back, who has signed a five-year-contract, will return to Reading and spend the remainder of this season on loan at the Madejski Stadium.
Hector, from London and a boyhood Chelsea supporter, began his career in the youth team at Millwall and moved to the Reading academy in 2009.
Having continued his development and gained crucial experience of first-team football out on loan, Hector made his Reading debut in January 2014 at the age of 21.
Last season, under the guidance of former Chelsea player and coach Steve Clarke, Hector established himself as a hugely important member of the Reading defence, making 49 appearances in all competitions and scoring three goals. He also played the full 120 minutes of Reading's FA Cup semi-final defeat against Arsenal at Wembley.
Hector, who captained Reading for the first time last week, has represented Jamaica at international level and started all three of their matches at this summer’s Copa America.
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Great talent this kid, I believe he would eventually have gotten an England cap had he not comitted to Jamaica. He Had a bad game in the GC final vs Mexico, but overall a very solid, promising defender. Was excellent in the Copa America, which no doubt contributed somewhat to Chelsea signing him.
Post by: Blue on September 02, 2015, 11:48:41 AM
Iva was and still is a CB by trade. He has been shaky many times for us @CB so tbh I was happy he held down the RB spot. He only really gained a foothold on that spot when Dave was switched from right to left and used to replace Cole. Remember Cole left at the conclusion of the 13-14 season, So Iva hasn't been holding that position for even 2 years yet regularly and certainly not since he joined at all so check your facts bredrin.
Come better than that man lol. 2009/10 season - when we won the Premier League - Ivanovic was named in the Premier League team of the season as a right back (Terry and Carvalho were our starting CBs that year). There have been times when he was deployed as a CB but he has been our starting RB more often than not in most seasons since then. The only player who has ever competed with him for that spot was Bosingwa and that battle didnt last long.
Mourinho acknowledged how good Azpilicueta was but admitted that he could not bench Ivanovic (Mourinho actually said this in a match program, if you want I could go look for it lol)....a few games later Azpilicueta came in for Cole and became the starting LB.
I agree with you that he is shaky as a CB but we will have to disagree on who is our best RB because to me he is still one of if not the best in the league :beermug:
Post by: Deeks on September 02, 2015, 12:01:54 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on September 02, 2015, 12:54:12 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 02, 2015, 01:01:20 PM
Remember Bosingwa had sustained a knee injury and was out from since for a year from October 09. Iva was deployed there by Ancilotti as a stop gap because until that point he wasn't getting a lot of regular and continuous play. Now I can admit he had a good year there most of the season. But remember once Bosingwa came back he got his position back. Now peep this, Neither DiMatteo nor Benitez used Dave on the left and yet Dave made at least 20 starts in the EPL that season. So in reality out of all the years Iva been at the bridge he played about the equivalent of maybe two and a half seasons at RB with last season being his first full season in the position. Now I doh dislike the man because he has performed well most of the time in the position however that is Dave natural position and if Iva struggling he should get a break. It's not as if we have no one at all to play. Even if Baba not ready that yute Kennedy looking to impress and the few minutes he came on he was busy in that last game and to me gave Jose reason to try to find him some minutes. I am a Cahill fan since he was @ Bolton but when he started to struggle last season I fully expected him to see the bench as he did. Now he seems to be back, refreshed and ready. Iva need a shake up lolIva was and still is a CB by trade. He has been shaky many times for us @CB so tbh I was happy he held down the RB spot. He only really gained a foothold on that spot when Dave was switched from right to left and used to replace Cole. Remember Cole left at the conclusion of the 13-14 season, So Iva hasn't been holding that position for even 2 years yet regularly and certainly not since he joined at all so check your facts bredrin.
Come better than that man lol. 2009/10 season - when we won the Premier League - Ivanovic was named in the Premier League team of the season as a right back (Terry and Carvalho were our starting CBs that year). There have been times when he was deployed as a CB but he has been our starting RB more often than not in most seasons since then. The only player who has ever competed with him for that spot was Bosingwa and that battle didnt last long.
Mourinho acknowledged how good Azpilicueta was but admitted that he could not bench Ivanovic (Mourinho actually said this in a match program, if you want I could go look for it lol)....a few games later Azpilicueta came in for Cole and became the starting LB.
I agree with you that he is shaky as a CB but we will have to disagree on who is our best RB because to me he is still one of if not the best in the league :beermug:
Post by: Sam on September 03, 2015, 10:40:41 AM
CourtoisRahmanDjilobodjiCahillAzpilicuetaKenedyRamiresWillianPedroCostaFalcaoPost by: asylumseeker on September 03, 2015, 02:12:47 PM
Well, fuh sure Djilobodji is a league or Cup player because he's not on the Champion's League roster.
I get the sense posters are under-rating Baba Rahman.
Post by: Sam on September 03, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Yuh eh like Pedro? :devil:
Well, fuh sure Djilobodji is a league or Cup player because he's not on the Champion's League roster.
I get the sense posters are under-rating Baba Rahman.
Fix, how yuh like de squad though?
Post by: asylumseeker on September 03, 2015, 04:30:13 PM
Yuh eh like Pedro? :devil:
Well, fuh sure Djilobodji is a league or Cup player because he's not on the Champion's League roster.
I get the sense posters are under-rating Baba Rahman.
Fix, how yuh like de squad though?
It's a playable squad. Ah thought Ramires would have been the one yuh benched, and not Mikel, buh ah glad yuh didn't. .... However, not so sure Mou would rest Fabregas.
He might also be cautious about starting a new flank defender and a new central defender.
It's going to be interesting to see what balance he strikes because he needs goals, defensive transition and an unbreachable back 4.
Post by: injunchile on September 04, 2015, 05:37:17 AM
Your selecting is a good Cup team.
Post by: Sam on September 04, 2015, 08:37:51 AM
Sam- how you leave out Hazard and Zouma, JM would play Fabregas before Ramires.
Your selecting is a good Cup team.
Zouma is decent but he to clumsy especially to play as a central defender.
Hazard is a shadow of himself.
Post by: Sam on September 04, 2015, 08:43:01 AM
Yuh eh like Pedro? :devil:
Well, fuh sure Djilobodji is a league or Cup player because he's not on the Champion's League roster.
I get the sense posters are under-rating Baba Rahman.
Fix, how yuh like de squad though?
It's a playable squad. Ah thought Ramires would have been the one yuh benched, and not Mikel, buh ah glad yuh didn't. .... However, not so sure Mou would rest Fabregas.
He might also be cautious about starting a new flank defender and a new central defender.
It's going to be interesting to see what balance he strikes because he needs goals, defensive transition and an unbreachable back 4.
Ramires could replace
If Mikel learn to pass more forward through balls he go be good to, but he does kill attacking play to much.
Even Pedro could play de central play maker role, but Fiberglass go to bench.
Post by: Flex on September 08, 2015, 03:38:27 PM
By Tim Witcher (AFP)
Manchester (United Kingdom) (AFP) - FIFA's medical commission will this week discuss Jose Mourinho's battle with Chelsea club doctor Eva Carneiro amid growing pressure for a settlement by the English Premier League Champions.
Mourinho has refused to back down from criticism of Carneiro and head physio Jon Fearn after they went on the pitch to treat Eden Hazard in the 2-2 home draw with Swansea last month.
They have since been excluded from the team bench by Mourinho and have consulted lawyers.
Carneiro and Fearn's medical intervention -- called on by Hazard and the referee -- reduced Chelsea to nine players as goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois had already been sent off. An angry Mourinho called it "impulsive and naive".
FIFA's top medical experts have already backed Carneiro and FIFA's medical commission is expected to issue a statement backing the Chelsea doctor after a meeting on Friday.
"You would expect me to support the team doctor," said medical commission chairman Michel D'Hooghe, a longstanding FIFA executive member, when he announced it would be discussed.
Mary O'Rourke, one of Britain's top medical lawyers who has been involved in landmark cases on football injuries, said FIFA would back the 41-year-old Carneiro.
"It is an important point of principle," she said on the sidelines of the Soccerex convention in Manchester.
"I would like to see the message go round the world -- and I think you will see FIFA on Friday saying the same -- they did nothing wrong because their duty was to the player as a patient, their duty was to the referee," O'Rourke said.
"Their job in the club is to look after the players, and not to run the team and not to be tactically aware."
O'Rourke said clubs have to be even more wary of injuries after the Petr Cech case at Chelsea and Tottenham goalkeeper Hugo Lloris's recent concussion.
But the leading barrister said there were signs that a settlement is being discussed without the need for court proceedings by Carneiro or an apology by Mourinho.
"I don't think you need to say that Mourinho has to apologise. I think you get the message out there if you have the pair of them back out there on the bench.
"We don't need to start making people eat humble pie or anything. It is a recognition that they did nothing wrong."
- 'Heat of the moment' -
O'Rourke said the referee had to call on a doctor after Hazard signalled his injury. She said that in rugby union, referees have been sued for not bringing on medical assistance.
The lawyer said Mourinho's comments had were "heat of the moment" after a game that Chelsea should have won and had "not been thought through".
"As much as one understands the passion of the manager or a coach, or their needs, you have to at the end of the day prioritise the player, because apart from anything else if the player sues he is not suing the manager he is suing the doctor and the physio."
O'Rourke said there were signs that Chelsea wanted to "mend" its relationship with the doctor.
"Some situations are not mendable. This one may not be.
"You should take something from it that Chelsea have said nothing and that Eva Carneiro has said nothing -- there may well be a will to see if this situation can be mended."
O'Rourke, who has written widely about football injury cases, said it was disappointing that the Football Association and Premier League have not spoken about the case. But she said it could be a sign that both are in contact with Chelsea.
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Post by: Bitter on September 12, 2015, 07:55:50 AM
::)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 08:01:33 AM
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 09:15:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/Cx8-O8MJs44
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/ObRNxGHNpgk
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/kc8PrdgCCIw
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 09:21:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/7T0X7SaXWB4
Post by: Bitter on September 19, 2015, 07:29:48 AM
Neither red was necessary, which is not to say that they aren't cards, but the ref could have just had a word. especially on the Gabriel red.
Post by: Deeks on September 19, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on September 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PM
Post by: soccerman on September 22, 2015, 02:30:12 PM
I like Costa as a pure footballer. But his instigating style does cause disruption in almost every game he plays. He is the man who appears to have started all the chaos. He baits players into "fouling" him.He got a 3 game ban from the FA.
Post by: Deeks on September 22, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
I like Costa as a pure footballer. But his instigating style does cause disruption in almost every game he plays. He is the man who appears to have started all the chaos. He baits players into "fouling" him.He got a 3 game ban from the FA.
I just read that. Unfortunately, he had it coming. He is a good baller. Just play ball, man.
Post by: Flex on September 24, 2015, 01:46:32 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 24, 2015, 02:25:16 PM
Post by: Tallman on September 24, 2015, 04:05:56 PM
GOAL ACCREDITATION PANEL Chelsea’s 2nd goal against Arsenal was in fact an own goal (Calum Chambers) & has not been credited to Eden Hazard
Ah cyar support dat. Allyuh messing up my fantasy team points man. :cursing:
Post by: lefty on September 24, 2015, 04:38:03 PM
LolGOAL ACCREDITATION PANEL Chelsea’s 2nd goal against Arsenal was in fact an own goal (Calum Chambers) & has not been credited to Eden Hazard
Ah cyar support dat. Allyuh messing up my fantasy team points man. :cursing:
Post by: Deeks on September 26, 2015, 12:19:01 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on October 30, 2015, 02:31:14 PM
InsideWorldFootball.com
Lawyers acting on behalf of Eva Carneiro, the Chelsea team doctor who was verbally lambasted by manager Jose Mourinho and had her position downgraded, have served notice of a claim of constructive dismissal against the club after she failed to agree a severance package.
Mourinho's treatment of Carneiro, including a ban from the bench after he described her and Jon Fearn, the Chelsea physiotherapist, of being "impulsive and naive" for treating Belgian star Eden Hazard when Chelsea were chasing the game on the opening game of the season, has been widely criticised across the sport's medical profession. She has since left the club.
Reports say the legal papers will trigger an employment tribunal unless the club can agree an out-of-court settlement with Carneiro before any hearing.
Mourinho has been cleared of using discriminatory language but the defending champions have had their worst ever start to a Premier League campaign with their Portuguese coach reportedly in grave danger of being replaced if results don't pick up, starting with Saturday's match against Liverpool.
Eva Carneiro to claim for constructive dismissal against Chelsea
By Dominic Fifield, The Guardian
• Employment tribunal expected unless club settles out of court
• Former Chelsea doctor dropped over Eden Hazard treatment
Lawyers acting for the former Chelsea team doctor Eva Carneiro have served notice on the club that she intends to bring a claim for constructive dismissal, having failed as yet to agree a severance package following her departure last month.
Legal papers are understood to have been served on the Premier League champions earlier this week as time in the three-month window permitted for claimants to lodge any complaint ticked down towards its deadline of 8 November. The papers will trigger an employment tribunal unless an out-of-court settlement can be agreed before a hearing takes place. Such tribunals are conducted in public and could be embarrassing for either defendant or claimant, meaning a compromise is usually struck beforehand.
Carneiro and the club’s physio Jon Fearn were publicly criticised by Chelsea’s manager, José Mourinho, for legitimately entering the field of play to treat Eden Hazard in stoppage time at the end of the 2-2 draw with Swansea City on 8 August. The referee, Michael Oliver, had waved the medical staff on to the pitch, with the Belgium international apparently in need of treatment – the medics were obliged to comply – although that meant the hosts played out a period of added time with only nine men on the field after the earlier dismissal of Thibaut Courtois.
The doctor and physio were subsequently dropped from first-team duties. Chelsea have consistently refused to comment publicly on what they consider to be an internal staffing matter but, whereas Fearn remains at the club, Carneiro did not report for work in the period after the incident and formally left last month, with her legal team entering negotiations to stave off any legal action. Mourinho has since been cleared by the Football Association of using discriminatory language towards Carneiro on the touchline, although the doctor released a statement criticising the governing body over its investigation of the incident.
“I was surprised to learn that the FA was allegedly investigating the incident of 8 August via the press,” she said this month. “I was at no stage requested by the FA to make a statement. I wonder whether this might be the only formal investigation in this country where the evidence of the individuals involved in the incident was not considered relevant. Choosing to ignore some of the evidence will surely influence the outcome of the findings.”
Although there is still scope for compromise to be reached, the ramifications of the fallout have added to the sense of chaos at Chelsea over what has been a traumatic season. Mourinho and his team go into Saturday’s potentially pivotal game against Liverpool 15th in the Premier League table after five defeats in 10 matches and with two disciplinary issues hanging over the manager. The Portuguese and his assistant Silvino Louro will be in the dugout at Stamford Bridge, despite being sent to the stands at West Ham last Saturday, with their misconduct charges to be heard by a commission next week at the earliest.
The Chelsea manager is also appealing against a £50,000 fine and suspended one-match stadium ban for suggesting officials were “afraid” to award his side decisions following the defeat by Southampton on 3 October. That appeal over the scale of the punishment was initially expected to be heard this week.
The champions’ Brazil midfielder Ramires signed a new contract through to 2019 on Thursday, in effect serving as a two-year extension, although even that was overshadowed by news that his compatriot Lucas Piazon, a young forward on a season-long loan at Reading, is wanted by police in Toronto in connection with an alleged sexual assault.
A warrant has been issued for the arrest of Piazon and his Brazil Under-22s team-mate Andrey da Silva Ventura after an alleged incident during the Pan-Am Games last summer. Police allege a 21-year-old woman was sexually assaulted by two men who met her at a downtown club on 25 July and then went to her home. It is alleged the woman was sexually assaulted after she fell asleep and the two men fled the scene.
The alleged incident occurred on the same day Brazil won the bronze medal in the tournament, with Piazon, who moved to Chelsea for £5m in 2011 from São Paulo, scoring in a 3-1 win over Panama. Both Chelsea and Reading, for whom Piazon scored at Fulham on Saturday, confirmed they were “aware of the reports” but made no further comment. The forward is understood to have trained as normal with Steve Clarke’s squad on Thursday.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 30, 2015, 02:42:52 PM
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03449/eva_carneiro_3449419b.jpg)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 30, 2015, 02:52:05 PM
2-2 vs Newcastle. Chelsea putting on a performance. Actually, Ramires putting on a performance, today!
On Ramires' new deal
Mourinho: "Not many people understand what Ramires really offers. He's a guy every manager loves. He deserves this new contract. He's a player who is ready to play, be on the bench, it's his mentality as a group man."
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03458/terrybench_3458410b.jpg)
Post by: Flex on December 09, 2015, 12:51:50 PM
Post by: boss on December 17, 2015, 08:54:41 AM
Post by: Deeks on December 17, 2015, 09:13:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9uizdKZAGE
Post by: Flex on December 17, 2015, 09:56:56 AM
Post by: lefty on December 17, 2015, 10:34:38 AM
Post by: Sam on December 17, 2015, 10:55:12 AM
They need to clean up that team, starting with two of them plus Ivan, Oscar, Matic and Costa.
Post by: Bitter on December 17, 2015, 11:31:02 AM
Yuh tort it was easy to keep a team in the top 4 for all this time?
Post by: Flex on April 05, 2016, 03:20:02 PM
BY BEN GLADWELL
Chelsea's incoming manager Antonio Conte should be handed a six-month suspended prison sentence in a hearing into sports fraud, according to the Cremona public prosecutor Roberto Di Martino.
Conte is being investigated over his alleged failure to report the arrangement of Albinoleffe's Serie B clash with his Siena side in May 2011. The 46-year-old, who will end his two-year stint as Italy's head coach after Euro 2016 to move to Stamford Bridge this summer, is accused of being aware of a match-fixing agreement for that game, even though he was not directly involved.
According to a preliminary investigation into that fixture, it emerged that Conte was aware of an agreement to allow Albinoleffe to win -- which they did 1-0 -- if Siena did not require a positive result to be promoted. Ferdinando Coppola, who was Siena's goalkeeper at the time but did not play in the fixture, claimed in his 2013 sports court hearing that Conte had "left it up to us to decide for ourselves."
He said: "Conte reminded us that he wanted to finish top, but that if the team felt obliged to adhere to the agreement with Albinoleffe, he would let us get on with it."
In addition to a six-month term, which would then only be a suspended sentence, Di Martino has suggested that Conte pay a fine of €8,000, the ANSA news agency reports. The full hearing will take place in early to mid-May, when Di Martino's suggestions will be debated along with the evidence and a final sentence will be handed down.
Conte requested and obtained an accelerated process to enable him the opportunity to clear his name or learn of any sanctions ahead of Euro 2016, allowing him then to be able to focus on his duties with the Italy national team.
Post by: Deeks on April 05, 2016, 03:25:19 PM
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2016, 07:57:19 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on August 31, 2016, 07:41:39 PM
Like JM and Drogba, David Luiz gets a second Chelsea shift.
Post by: lefty on August 31, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Not sure how many Chelsea fans remain on this forum since the departure of Mourinho and Drogba, but ...I guess you'll be excited to welcome back David Luiz.
Like JM and Drogba, David Luiz gets a second Chelsea shift.
I still here......admitted wasn't a fan of Mourinho per say, d micro management used to irk mih, david kinda scary for ah CB for me though....only see him at chelsea and Brazil...it have nuff scary moments to give yuh nightmares dey so..............
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 01, 2016, 08:53:39 AM
Post by: soccerman on April 16, 2017, 11:58:41 AM
Post by: lefty on April 16, 2017, 01:23:25 PM
Umm Happy Easter
we jus couldn't get started today good win :beermug:
Post by: asylumseeker on April 16, 2017, 04:20:37 PM
Umm Happy Easter
we jus couldn't get started today good win :beermug:
Enjoyable match from start to finish. Lots of personalities showing their quality. And as usual, happy for Rashford.
Also, although he wasn't on the winning team, Costa was textbook. If a player cyah learn from Costa, he cyah learn from anyone.
However, best thing is it puts Spurs within reach. :beermug:
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2017, 10:00:06 PM
By Sam Wallace, The Telegraph.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2017/11/06/TELEMMGLPICT000145889173_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqXm5Gjs0VccvfhnTcA1twMek_Piu6NnE5a4Ji4a5_OI0.jpeg?imwidth=700)
Michael Emenalo had not realised at the time, but as he sat on a plastic chair outside the drug testing room in Massachusetts’ Foxborough Stadium in June 1994 - still in his kit, and totally exhausted - Diego Maradona was trying to tell him something.
Maradona, who had also been selected for doping control, wanted to change shirts with his midfield opponent who, aged 28, and not a Nigeria regular, had just played one of the games of his life against Argentina. Emenalo was still lost in his thoughts and never realised. He passed his drugs test; Maradona tested positive for ephedrine, was sent home from the 1994 World Cup finals in disgrace and never played for Argentina again. That sweaty blue and white shirt would have been his last national team jersey, and quite a memento.
A small lesson in taking your opportunity in football wherever it arises, and one heeded by Emenalo after his playing days were finished, when he had a call from Avram Grant, one of his many former managers, to come to Chelsea in 2007 to be part of the Israeli’s backroom staff. Grant did not make it beyond the end of the 2007-2008 season but Emenalo stayed and has fulfilled a number of roles, a rare island of stability in a club that changes so much so often.
His departure on Monday (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/06/michael-emenalo-quits-chelsea-major-blow-roman-abramovich/) was at least done on his terms. He will leave to try something new, even though his friend and boss Roman Abramovich preferred that he stay. The news of his departure came just four days after two of Chelsea’s most promising young guns, both of them south London boys in Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Tammy Abraham, got their senior England call-ups from Gareth Southgate.
The club has had much criticism over the years, some of it my own, for the mistakes they have made in player development but as Emenalo goes the system is starting to bear fruit for the England team. There have been an extraordinary number of Chelsea boys in the England junior teams, including six in the Under-19s’ European championship winning squad and five in the Under-17 World Cup winners, a record that only Everton have got close to over the Football Association’s summer of trophies.
Much of that is due to the work of academy director Neil Bath and Emenalo himself. They organise the scouting and development of many of the best players in the country and then meticulously plot their path through the loan system.
Chelsea have dominated the FA Youth Cup in recent years. Yes, they have paid big salaries but their programme has raised the bar in youth development over the last decade to the extent that traditional powerhouses such as Manchester United and Arsenal have had to fight to keep up.
It is not easy to plot a path amongst the creative tensions at work in Chelsea – not so much a management hierarchy as a management plateau, where territory and influence is grabbed. Emenalo’s departure suggests that Marina Granovskaia and Antonio Conte have that now.
Emenalo’s input included championing young players such as Romelu Lukaku, Kevin De Bruyne, Mohamad Salah, Ryan Bertrand and Filipe Luis, all of whom were ultimately judged expendable at Chelsea but have thrived elsewhere. He also help coordinate the massive worldwide scouting programme that has found the likes of Bertrand Traore, boys who grew up a long way from south-west London, and in very different circumstances.
Who better to do so than Emenalo, a man who built his own career from scratch, coming from Nigeria to first do a college scholarship in Boston. His peripatetic playing CV attracted scorn from some but this was a talented African footballer, who had a fine game against Maradona in 1994.
Had he been born a generation later he would probably have benefited from the guidance in the European game that a club like Chelsea, with their bespoke career plans, can now offer.
He understands young footballers, and the way in which they think - be they a talented young English hopeful like Mason Mount, keen to make progress, or a talented young Kenedy or Charley Musonda getting themselves in trouble on social media. Keeping so many of them challenged and motivated has been a key part of his job.
For all the criticism of Chelsea, and much of it justified, it has been heartening to see that they have achieved the kind of diversity in their hierarchy that few others have managed, with Granovskaia and Emenalo. This coming when there are serious concerns about the absence of women and BAME figures in the higher echelons of football.
The club were also not averse to putting Emenalo on the frontline when required, and never more so when he stepped forward in the aftermath of Jose Mourinho’s sacking in December 2015. There are not many football people who, on the spot, could have come up with his delicately understated description of the tension between players and manager.
“Palpable discord” was Emenalo’s phrase and if ever anyone gets round to writing the history of the Abramovich years at Chelsea, then that should be the book’s title.
Where the power lies at Chelsea
Roman Abramovich
Owner
Bought out Ken Bates in 2003. Has invested over £1 billion on the club since and will also fund the club’s new stadium.
Bruce Buck
Chairman
American lawyer who is often the public face of the board. A fixture at matches and close to Abramovich, having worked with him on a deal to sell his Sibneft oil firm to Gazprom in 2005.
Eugene Tenenbaum
Director
Former head of corporate finance at Sibneft. The Ukrainian-born accountant is not known to be a strong football fan but is one of Abramovich's most trusted allies.
Marina Granovskaia
Director
One of the most powerful women in world football, Russian-born Granovskaia has been an Abramovich ally since 1997. Key figure in negotiating contracts and player transfers.
Michael Emenalo
Technical director
Only member of Abramovich’s executive team with playing experience, the former Nigerian international also held positions in the scouting and academy programme and has overseen the vast loan system that is now bearing fruit for the club.
Antonio Conte
First team coach
Former Italian international has responsibility for first team matters but does not have complete control around issues such as player recruitment.
David Barnard
Club secretary
Deals with the day-to-day running of the football department, although it is a largely administrative role. One of the last links to the pre-Abramovich era.
Neil Bath
Academy director
Very influential at Cobham, having built the most successful player development system in modern English football. Highly regarded at club and in wider football, even if many Chelsea managers have not given his proteges a first team chance.