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Title: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Bitter on June 23, 2010, 05:58:59 AM
Slovenia-England preview (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=249722/match=300061462/preview.html)

After two disappointing England performances it is crunch time for Fabio Capello and his squad with this game deciding if they are to stay on at the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ or rather return home on Thursday with their tails between their legs. Slovenia are in a far healthier position and know that a draw will be enough to carry them into the knockout rounds for the first time at a major tournament.

The match
Slovenia-England, Group C, Port Elizabeth, 16.00 (local time)

Slovenia were not expected to create major waves at this tournament but so assuredly have they gone about their business that they find themselves in a position to create history for their country. England, on the other hand, are trying to avoid history because you have to go all the way back to 1958 for the last time they failed to advance from the initial group phase of a FIFA World Cup in which they were participating.

In only their second FIFA World Cup, Slovenia gained new admirers with a competent dismissal of Algeria in their first game. They then put themselves in with a great chance of taking maximum points from two games when they led USA 2-0 only to be rocked by the force of the Americans' recovery which earned them a point.

England first delighted their supporters by taking an early lead in Rustenburg against USA but then saw two points slip through goalkeeper Robert Green's fingers as he failed to hold onto Clint Dempsey's speculative shot from outside the area. It seemed a given that they would then make amends against Algeria but they produced an even more lacklustre performance with the African side having the better of a 0-0 draw. England need to win to progress. If they draw they can progress if USA-Algeria also ends in a draw in which case goals scored will be the deciding factor.

Players to watch
Milivoje Novakovic v John Terry

Slovenia's leading scorer in qualifying, Milivoje Novakovic is without a goal to his name so far at South Africa 2010 and, with only a single shot in two games, he will be anxious to get off the mark at the third time of asking. Novakovic will do battle with John Terry who finds himself with a third different central defensive partner at this tournament following injury to Ledley King and the suspension of Jamie Carragher.

That is one problem Terry has to deal with. The other is the controversy that has submerged him since the draw with Algeria and his subsequent comments that he intented to initiate a team discussion with Capello about where England were going wrong. In the end it was Capello who reasserted his authority over his former captain, leaving a contrite Terry to apologise to him and the squad.

The stat
1 - the number of times England have been defeated in their third and final match in the initial group phase. They lost 1-0 to Spain in 1950.

What they said
“The players need to help each other out, and be self-confident, brave and determined. If they do that, then I’m sure we’ll see another big, big show – a show that will make Slovenia and its players into household names around the world," Matjaz Kek, Slovenia coach

"I don't understand why during a game we don't change the rhythm or the speed. We are really slow. At this World Cup if you don't run or press or fight it is difficult to go forward," Fabio Capello, England coach

Voice of the fans
"The problem with all Slavic nations, they tend to come to the edge of something big only to fail at the last moment and then they lament the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. This Slovenian team, however, is different." FIFA.com user Jahbulon (Slovenia)

The question
It's the million-dollar question for England supporters: can they put all that has transpired over the last few days behind them and bring their performance levels back to what is expected of them? Or are they stuck in a trough of poor form?
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Observer on June 23, 2010, 07:10:49 AM
John Terry try to to take over (similar to what he did to Mourinho), but it llook like Capello knee cap him

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1288194/WORLD-CUP-2010-Its-mutiny-John-Terry-fails-plot-undermine-Fabio-Capello.html

Interesting
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Jumbie on June 23, 2010, 07:19:13 AM
Shit team at best.

EDIT: Go Defoe!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: weary1969 on June 23, 2010, 07:39:05 AM
John Terry try to to take over (similar to what he did to Mourinho), but it llook like Capello knee cap him

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1288194/WORLD-CUP-2010-Its-mutiny-John-Terry-fails-plot-undermine-Fabio-Capello.html

Interesting

I like d comments from d fans.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on June 23, 2010, 07:45:08 AM
call me crazy but i have a feeling england will have a good game today...
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: weary1969 on June 23, 2010, 07:48:06 AM
call me crazy but i have a feeling england will have a good game today...

I hope 2 not crazyyyyyy.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: JDB on June 23, 2010, 07:56:58 AM
call me crazy but i have a feeling england will have a good game today...

Crazy.

England might get through this but not by playing well. I still feel Slovenia taking it with a win or a draw.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: lefty on June 23, 2010, 08:09:12 AM
As ah Chelsea fan I have no regrets in callin JT ah selfish childish C U N T of ah man, ah mean u not getting what u want so u bright idea is to fuuck up what ever team chemistry dat exists bright idea moron, if Chelsea decide to offload his ass I would be too broken up.............I hate england eh, but dat is pure shit right dey.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: FF on June 23, 2010, 08:23:02 AM
Defoe score

England 1 - 0 Slovenia

22 mins
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: weary1969 on June 23, 2010, 08:23:51 AM
Dafoe steupsssssssss
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Observer on June 23, 2010, 08:50:57 AM
Slovenia feeling the weight of this game. Their left back allowing crosses frico. Their final passes letting them down in the attacking third.

Imagine this commentator saying that the keeper should have done better! man volley from 6 yards, at that distance is only reflexes involved.

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: FF on June 23, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
Slovenia feeling the weight of this game. Their left back allowing crosses frico. Their final passes letting them down in the attacking third.

Imagine this commentator saying that the keeper should have done better! man volley from 6 yards, at that distance is only reflexes involved.

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.

He get confused or you hear wrong... they are the smallest nation to qualify back to back world cups
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: elan on June 23, 2010, 09:09:37 AM
If anyone ever compare Rooney to Drogba or say he better I will really cuss alyuh.  :devil:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Observer on June 23, 2010, 09:09:50 AM
Slovenia feeling the weight of this game. Their left back allowing crosses frico. Their final passes letting them down in the attacking third.

Imagine this commentator saying that the keeper should have done better! man volley from 6 yards, at that distance is only reflexes involved.

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.

He get confused or you hear wrong... they are the smallest nation to qualify back to back world cups

Huh! They were not in Germany!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: FF on June 23, 2010, 09:13:56 AM
Slovenia feeling the weight of this game. Their left back allowing crosses frico. Their final passes letting them down in the attacking third.

Imagine this commentator saying that the keeper should have done better! man volley from 6 yards, at that distance is only reflexes involved.

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.

He get confused or you hear wrong... they are the smallest nation to qualify back to back world cups

Huh! They were not in Germany!

Look like I get confused
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Dutty on June 23, 2010, 09:15:42 AM
slovenia really need to get rid of that charlie brown kit
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Socafan on June 23, 2010, 09:34:10 AM
I eh go lie, England just doh have no excitement about them at all. No kinda inventive play. Nex rongs is nuff licks. Well..1 and out.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: JDB on June 23, 2010, 09:45:42 AM
Slovenia feeling the weight of this game. Their left back allowing crosses frico. Their final passes letting them down in the attacking third.

Imagine this commentator saying that the keeper should have done better! man volley from 6 yards, at that distance is only reflexes involved.

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.

He get confused or you hear wrong... they are the smallest nation to qualify back to back world cups

Huh! They were not in Germany!

Look like I get confused

I think the stat is the smallest country to qualify for more than one tournament. We not breaking that record anytime soon.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: spideybuff on June 23, 2010, 11:54:10 AM

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.

He said 5th smallest nation at 2 million. You heard wrong.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: dinho on June 23, 2010, 03:46:09 PM
Anybody see John Terry diving on the ground to block a shot with his head today?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


http://www.youtube.com/v/RrDu9Zznkjw

Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 23, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Anybody see John Terry diving on the ground to block a shot with his head today?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


http://www.youtube.com/v/RrDu9Zznkjw




 He's a imps and a slow one at that, but yuh cyah buy that kinda commitment nuh.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Deeks on June 23, 2010, 04:56:39 PM
Slovenia feeling the weight of this game. Their left back allowing crosses frico. Their final passes letting them down in the attacking third.

Imagine this commentator saying that the keeper should have done better! man volley from 6 yards, at that distance is only reflexes involved.

On another note T&T population grow. The commentator say Slovenia is the smallest Nation ever at a WC.

He get confused or you hear wrong... they are the smallest nation to qualify back to back world cups

They are the smallest nation of all the nations who are particpating in this current WC. Whooopeee! We still the smallest in population and land mass to have ever qualified. All yuh feel satisfied we still in the record books. We are also 1 of 6 nations never to have scored a goal in the WC. But at least we got 1 point.


taken from Wiki: TT:   The country covers an area of 5,128 square kilometres (1,980 sq mi)[6] and consists of two main islands, Trinidad and Tobago, and numerous smaller landforms. Trinidad is the larger and more populous of the main islands; Tobago is much smaller, comprising about 6% of the total area and 4% of the entire population which is estimated at 1.3 million (2005). The nation lies outside the hurricane belt.


Taken from Wiki: Slovenia: Slovenia covers an area of 20,273 square kilometres and has a population of 2.06 million. Around 40% of Slovenia's land mass is elevated land - mostly in the form of mountains and plateaus - which is located in the interior regions of the country. The highest point of Slovenia is the 2,864 metre (9,396 ft) high Mount Triglav. The majority of the population speaks Slovene, which is also the country's official language. Other local official languages are Hungarian and Italian.

Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: giggsy11 on June 23, 2010, 05:50:21 PM
Anybody see John Terry diving on the ground to block a shot with his head today?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


http://www.youtube.com/v/RrDu9Zznkjw




 He's a imps and a slow one at that, but yuh cyah buy that kinda commitment nuh.

Imps + slow = gimp!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Brownsugar on June 23, 2010, 07:26:11 PM
Wait nah John Terry serious??!!..... :o :o :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: giggsy11 on June 23, 2010, 08:22:56 PM
England barely win and dey bleetin that dey can beat anyone and they are back to their best! So predictable!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Bakes on June 23, 2010, 09:00:47 PM
Allyuh men harsh boy... I now watching de game, England play all over dat side and shoulda score more.  Lampard had a clear volley off a rebound from the keeper from about 25 meters... keeper out ah position, one defender scrambling back to goal... and he put it over bar.  Defoe was threatening whole first half (eh see de second half yet).  Gerrard had a crack and de keeper spill it almost like Green, into the goal... except he gathered it in time.  Milner was creating chance after chance with his crosses.

That said, England have a long way to go.  Don Fabio trying to teach ah donkey how tuh run like ah thoroughbred... right now it galloping like ah mule.  Not enough thoroughbred in England squad and they further hamstring by evident lack of cohesion.  That said, there is much here for them to build on and they need to figure it out fast because a nascent German team looms large... another brilliant chapter in the German-English rivalry to be written.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Spursy on June 23, 2010, 09:07:32 PM
how this thread ded out soo.... oh yea..  england sucks :rotfl:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Bakes on June 23, 2010, 09:13:34 PM
how this thread ded out soo.... oh yea..  england sucks :rotfl:

I too starting tuh believe de 12 behind yuh name represents yuh emotional age.  I eh go lie dred... you real immature.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Midknight on June 23, 2010, 09:14:28 PM
England had maybe a 30 minute spell where they actually looked like a WC last 16 team. The rest was just flattering to deceive as usual.

Slovenia was piss poor.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: rotatopoti3 on June 24, 2010, 03:12:13 AM
Don Fabio trying to teach ah donkey how tuh run like ah thoroughbred... right now it galloping like ah mule.  Not enough thoroughbred in England squad and they further hamstring by evident lack of cohesion

Bakes dat sums up Liverpool season.... :frustrated:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Observer on June 24, 2010, 03:23:02 AM
I just heard an interesting comment on the game: An analysis said "if that England performance yesterday, was one of the opening games, everyone would ahve been critical of it. But desperation allows fans to accept it."
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: JDB on June 24, 2010, 03:29:07 AM
I just heard an interesting comment on the game: An analysis said "if that England performance yesterday, was one of the opening games, everyone would ahve been critical of it. But desperation allows fans to accept it."

I agree with that. England has serious problems scoring goals when they have possession and they will not dominate possession against Germany.

That said, despite Germany's better play funny things does happen and England is always hard to beat outright in these knockout games. That Germany team has enough weaknesses for them to take advantage off. This game and the US Ghana games are 50:50 propositions IMO.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 37 - Group C: Slovenia vs England
Post by: Jumbie on June 24, 2010, 07:00:16 AM
I just heard an interesting comment on the game: An analysis said "if that England performance yesterday, was one of the opening games, everyone would ahve been critical of it. But desperation allows fans to accept it."

Thank you... the way the brit commentators was going orn you'd think we saw total dominance and the resurrection of a team that will win it all. The fans and media does scrape the bottom to find any slight good to blow out of proportion.

this is why when they fail they does kerry orn as if they loss a family member.


that youthful side germany have they will be a handful for hengland.

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