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On 24 June 2006, in Leipzig, Argentina and Mexico met in a pulsating Round of 16 encounter at that year's FIFA World Cup™. The South Americans went through with a 2-1 win, with the Mexicans' hopes of a quarter-final place dashed once again. Four years on, Javier Aguirre’s men are desperate for revenge and have the chance to test themselves against arguably the tournament’s form team. But will they be able to handle charismatic coach Diego Maradona and mercurial maestro Lionel Messi?
The match
Argentina-Mexico, Round of 16, Johannesburg, Sunday 27 June, 20.30 (local time)
Argentina come into the last 16 on the crest of a wave, having swept all before them in Group B and ended up with three wins and nine points. Coach Maradona seems to have forged a sense of purpose and endeavour from a squad that had its difficulties in qualifying for South Africa 2010 and, with an in-form Lionel Messi in their ranks, they are hoping to book their place amongst the world’s top eight sides for the second FIFA World Cup in succession. El Diego will also enjoy the luxury of having a full-strength squad to choose from, free from injuries and suspensions.
For his part, Mexico boss Aguirre has already expressed his disquiet at having finished in second place in Group A, largely because his team has been inconsistent so far. A fine victory against 2006 runners-up France was the highpoint of El Tri’s group games, but it was sandwiched between a draw with hosts South Africa and a narrow defeat against Uruguay.
However revenge will be uppermost in Los Aztecas’ thoughts, not least because the current squad contains several survivors of that last, fateful meeting with Argentina including Rafael Marquez, who scored Mexico’s goal in Leipzig four years ago. The objective for Aguirre’s men is plain and simple: to get to that elusive “fifth game” at a FIFA World Cup finals tournament, and to book their place in the quarter-finals for the first time in 24 years.
History is on the side of Argentina; in fourteen matches against Mexico in the last 20 years, La Albiceleste have emerged victorious on seven occasions, with five draws and only two wins for El Tri.
Players to watch
Lionel Messi v Rafael Marquez
The Barcelona team-mates will meet once again as international rivals, as in 2006, when Mexican skipper Marquez opened the scoring and Messi came on as a late substitute with only a matter of minutes left in the game. The FIFA World Player of the Year 2009 is yet to notch his first goal in South Africa 2010, and La Pulga will be hoping to open his account in the knockout stages. Marquez, however, has continued his knack of scoring goals from his defensive midfield position, and scored his country’s first goal of the tournament in the Opening Match against South Africa.
The stat
14 - No fewer than 14 current players are survivors of the two nations’ last FIFA World Cup meeting in Leipzig in 2006. Amongst the eight Mexicans and six Argentinians is midfielder Maxi Rodriguez, whose superb volleyed winner for the 1986 champions was named by FIFA.com readers as the goal of the 2006 finals.
What they said
“We’re going to give Mexico the respect they deserve because, in spite of losing against Uruguay, they know exactly what they're doing. We will try to get at them and look for their weaknesses. They will have to respect my players as well because we’re putting together a very good tournament and we'll give everything for the shirt,” Diego Maradona, Argentina coach.
“It’s Argentina, but so what? There is always a lot of pessimism in Mexico. Unfortunately sometimes we don’t believe in ourselves and we don’t have that extra self-belief that other teams have. We need to change that mindset. Argentina can be beaten and that’s the way we need to approach the game,” Rafael Marquez, Mexico captain.
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If this game is 1/2 as good as the 2006 round of 16 matchup, this will be the game of the tournament so far.
I am looking forward to this one.
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I agree......this game go have plenty of everthing, including diving. The Argentinians master that in the modern game.....I hope Mexico at least tire dem out.....get a few ah dem in yellow card trouble.....
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ME XI CO!!!
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it have a lil taqueria near to me...i never went to it but today i see a sign outside advertising the game...i mad to put on meh mexico shirt and go b/c dat go be real action
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this could possibly be the most exciting match of the round of 16..(the only match i can see dat can be more exciting is the Spain vs Portugal clash)..
Mexico have a lot of pride in their football and dey not bowing out easy
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Is only Mexican flags from out the wood works ah seeing all over the place yuh swear yuh in Mexico city. The police go be out in big numbers today !
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Ahright .....game of the day for me....VIVA MEJICO...... If argentina goes out that will make this THE BESTESTEST WORLD CUP EVA!!!
On another note, this game will have the most amount of diving ever seen ever.
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any steaming links for this game?
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any steaming links for this game?
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=worldcup2010
http://atdhe.net/
http://espn.go.com/espn3/index#
http://www.google.com/search?q=FIFA+World+Cup&ct=worldcupopen10-hp&oi=ddle
http://futbol.univision.com/fifacopamundial/partidos-en-vivo
http://www.tv6tnt.tv/TV6_Brightcove/default2.html
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any steaming links for this game?
Aye, aye.....yuh everywhere except the thread where yuh gone missing all of ah sudden....I wonder why??.... ::) ::)
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My brain with Argentina, my gut telling me Mexico :'( , ah leaning towards Maradona men
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Mexico Mexico rah rah rah !!
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any steaming links for this game?
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=worldcup2010
http://atdhe.net/
http://espn.go.com/espn3/index#
http://www.google.com/search?q=FIFA+World+Cup&ct=worldcupopen10-hp&oi=ddle
http://futbol.univision.com/fifacopamundial/partidos-en-vivo
http://www.tv6tnt.tv/TV6_Brightcove/default2.html
Thanks :)
@ Brownsugar.. meh side went out with pride, i am proud of them, proud of what they did for cocacaf. It was Ghana's nite and rightly so, they played a better brand of clincal football and i congratulate them on their much deserved victory over the US.
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any steaming links for this game?
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=worldcup2010
http://atdhe.net/
http://espn.go.com/espn3/index#
http://www.google.com/search?q=FIFA+World+Cup&ct=worldcupopen10-hp&oi=ddle
http://futbol.univision.com/fifacopamundial/partidos-en-vivo
http://www.tv6tnt.tv/TV6_Brightcove/default2.html
Thanks :)
@ Brownsugar.. meh side went out with pride, i am proud of them, proud of what they did for cocacaf. It was Ghana's nite and rightly so, they played a better brand of clincal football and i congratulate them on their much deserved victory over the US.
Steups...cop out.....
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It seems like in this knockout stage the teams with the better strikers win out in the end, which is bad news for Mexico.
Argentina to move on.
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I think Argentina frontline and midfield would prove to be too much for the Mexican defence. regardless it will still be a good test for Maradona men since they have not really been tested in the group stages
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go mexico!!!! si se puede!!!
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any steaming links for this game?
Go to CBC!
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bofo bautista starting ...hmmm...keep an eye on him
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Wishing Mexico well as they are the last left reps of our region & we want to keep our 3 1/2 spots & even argue for 4 spots!!
Go Mexico go!!
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LET'S GO ME-HEE-COOO!!!!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Rosetti
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Argentina go win but ah want Mexico wear dem out....make it easier for Brazil in de end! :devil:
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damn dem vuvuzelas :notlistening:
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Maradonna get ah touch lol.. this game rel bess
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I cannot stand them Mexicans... but ah like dem Argentinians even less. Fack Maradona... Go Mexico!!
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That ball that hit the bar was a concacaf strike :devil:
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MEXICO hit the bar and ... omg that balll LOOLLOOL
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Keep it up Meheeco :beermug:
Big Up!
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damn dem vuvuzelas :notlistening:
What vuvuzelas yuh talkin' 'bout? De filters done erase dem ting man.....yuh hearin' tings.
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damn dem vuvuzelas :notlistening:
What vuvuzelas yuh talkin' 'bout? De filters done erase dem ting man.....yuh hearin' tings.
i watchin it on tv 6 an i hearin it loud an clear
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damn dem vuvuzelas :notlistening:
What vuvuzelas yuh talkin' 'bout? De filters done erase dem ting man.....yuh hearin' tings.
i watchin it on tv 6 an i hearin it loud an clear
I hearin' dem loud and clear, too, whole tournament. But, according to the in-house, know-it-all sound tech on the forum, the filters cleared them up (or down, really) to a whisper.
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damn dem vuvuzelas :notlistening:
What vuvuzelas yuh talkin' 'bout? De filters done erase dem ting man.....yuh hearin' tings.
i watchin it on tv 6 an i hearin it loud an clear
I hearin' dem loud and clear, too, whole tournament. But, according to the in-house, know-it-all sound tech on the forum, the filters cleared them up (or down, really) to a whisper.
:heehee: :-X
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OFFSIDE >:(
Big Up!
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LOL... huge offside call missed there.
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wow...another controversial call
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I glad this kinda ting happening more and more....usa could stop crying like THEY are the only ones that suffer from bad officiating.
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LOL... huge offside call missed there.
I didn't need to see the replay.It was so glaring.
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My gosh.......too many missed calls....stupidness. It's marring the tournament.
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If nothing is done after this W.Cup to assist officiating you really have to wonder.
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Every game the same thing with these bad calls they really need to use instant reply.
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Clear offside. Wonder if itwoykd gave gone in without Tevez' touch.
Great game so far though. A moment of brilliance from Messi but I find that in general he holding on to the ball too long.
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ah must say, this is why we love/hate this game lol :devil:
Mexico still winning this..watch and see ;D
Big Up!
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LOL... huge offside call missed there.
I didn't need to see the replay.It was so glaring.
I coulda SWEAR the whistle was going to blow for offside.
My gosh.......too many missed calls....stupidness. It's marring the tournament.
fifa doh give a DAM!
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What's the point of Angel DiMaria?
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???
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Oh whata mistake ah da maker
Big Up!
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Poor Mexico.
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GAME DONE!! Good night, folks!
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Clear offside. Wonder if itwoykd gave gone in without Tevez' touch.
Great game so far though. A moment of brilliance from Messi but I find that in general he holding on to the ball too long.
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Jeezan..Tevez could haul he lil hardface tiefin muddarse, an he could carry he lil midget padna with he too.....shim 2
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School boy's error steups
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Mexico lost the plot.
Heinze meanwhile slap de camera fuh getting too close to the celebration, lol.
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That was ah concacaf error :)
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If nothing is done after this W.Cup to assist officiating you really have to wonder.
not with blatter in charge...old and set in his ways
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If nothing is done after this W.Cup to assist officiating you really have to wonder.
if Argentina win by a big enough margin it will not matter because we will justify the result based on the overall performances. We kinda used to that in football now.
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School boy's error steups
Only the Denmark error against Cameroon comes close. This is the worst.
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Clear offside. Wonder if itwoykd gave gone in without Tevez' touch.
Great game so far though. A moment of brilliance from Messi but I find that in general he holding on to the ball too long.
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Jeezan..Tevez could haul he lil hardface tiefin muddarse, an he could carry he lil midget padna with he too.....shim 2
How Tevez tiefin? ???
Big Up!
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Mexico lost the plot.
Heinze meanwhile slap de camera fuh getting too close to the celebration, lol.
Yeah boy. Mexico looking unglued. That first goal mess them up.
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Perez under siege in goal.
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If nothing is done after this W.Cup to assist officiating you really have to wonder.
if Argentina win by a big enough margin it will not matter because we will justify the result based on the overall performances. We kinda used to that in football now.
Sorta like the final Germany-England scoreline... "Germany was going to win anyways".
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come on mexico just test that argie keeper...he ent good
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Mexico get deflated by that Offside goal
Big Up!
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Clear offside. Wonder if itwoykd gave gone in without Tevez' touch.
Great game so far though. A moment of brilliance from Messi but I find that in general he holding on to the ball too long.
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Jeezan..Tevez could haul he lil hardface tiefin muddarse, an he could carry he lil midget padna with he too.....shim 2
How Tevez tiefin? ???
Big Up!
Cause not only he was offside...he tief he midget padna ah goal too...an for my final argument...he against ah concacaf side...I rest meh f#@$in case
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Heinze meanwhile slap de camera fuh getting too close to the celebration, lol.
lol iz because he bonx his head into the camera when he turned around....and get vex
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The game eh done yet. Argentina real weak at the back. Mexico need to attack them.
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and d refs win d game again , stueps . ARG defense is shit. Germany go work that
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I doh feel 22 en staying on de pitch for dis game.
Mexico damn vex...understandably so.
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Mexico no luck today :-[ meanwhile Argentina with all the luck
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The game eh done yet. Argentina real weak at the back. Mexico need to attack them.
2nd half they have to come out de gates flying...1 goal will shake argentina, mark my words
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Heinze meanwhile slap de camera fuh getting too close to the celebration, lol.
lol iz because he bonx his head into the camera when he turned around....and get vex
Yeah he butt de man camera den get vex and pull ah Rodman :rotfl:
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Bachannal between the two team benches at the half. The referee and officials had to break up a potential bench-clearing brawl.
I would be surprised if this game ends with 22 players on the field.
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look barrera come in...bautista ent do nutten first half....vamos barrera, vamos mexico!!!!
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Mexico crack up after the first goal. All them boys' heads drop. It took the second goal for them to ketch theyself lil bit.
This thing is a shame now
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Oh mother of god!!! Tevez!!!!!!!
Big Up!
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Wonder strike by Tevez... it's all over for sure now.
Jesus saves... but not even he was getting that one.
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Bess goal by tevez
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holy shit :o
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If nothing is done after this W.Cup to assist officiating you really have to wonder.
if Argentina win by a big enough margin it will not matter because we will justify the result based on the overall performances. We kinda used to that in football now.
Sorta like the final Germany-England scoreline... "Germany was going to win anyways".
yep...we have always been doing it only difference being that we do it mote often now due to the game speed, video technology, and pressure on officials.
In the CL this year Inter win the 1st leg 3-1 with a clear offside goal and we ignore it based on their general superiority, yet that one goal was the difference between Barca winning and losing the tie. At the end of the day we explain the gulf between the sides based on Inter's "vastly superior" tactics.
Easier to do that as a fan and member of the football fraternity than to imagine that the incident would have had an impact on the overall result.
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Bess goal by tevez
CO-SIGNNN
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ger vs arg 8)
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I cannot stand them Mexicans... but ah like dem Argentinians even less. Fack Maradona... Go Mexico!!
Ah go like this. :beermug:
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Think Rooney taking notes.
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And still with all ah dat, I eh find Argentina playing any kinda ball. Is only me or am I a hater?
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ger vs arg 8)
hopefully germany will be able to put some pressure on that argentina defence b/c no team has been able to consistently do that
And still with all ah dat, I eh find Argentina playing any kinda ball. Is only me or am I a hater?
no you are right
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ger vs arg 8)
hopefully germany will be able to put some pressure on that argentina defence b/c no team has been able to consistently do that
And still with all ah dat, I eh find Argentina playing any kinda ball. Is only me or am I a hater?
no you are right
Or hor..OK..So is level cutass from Germany then.
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look coach changing tactics...bring on a bruiser to make burdisso and demichelis work...and to get on de end of barrera's crosses
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ger vs arg 8)
hopefully germany will be able to put some pressure on that argentina defence b/c no team has been able to consistently do that
And still with all ah dat, I eh find Argentina playing any kinda ball. Is only me or am I a hater?
no you are right
Or hor..OK..So is level cutass from Germany then.
me ent know about dat...but i think germany will make them work a lil bit harder than they have all tourney long
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Loving everything I see from Hernandez so far.
I just hope he could get a better chance than Forlan or Tevez when he get to United.
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And still with all ah dat, I eh find Argentina playing any kinda ball. Is only me or am I a hater?
You're right. That said I'm definitely a hater. Germany will handle them just like last time.
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:rotfl:
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That youthman is the real deal. Luis Fabiano type finishing!
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It's about time :wavetowel:
Big Up!
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Loving everything I see from Hernandez so far.
I just hope he could get a better chance than Forlan or Tevez when he get to United.
Golazo de Chicharito!
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Loving everything I see from Hernandez so far.
I just hope he could get a better chance than Forlan or Tevez when he get to United.
There you go.
Argentina lucky they ent concede more... given the holes at the back and between the posts. Romero like he playing in sand.
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That youthman is the real deal. Luis Fabiano type finishing!
wow.
Fergie must be smiling. Really hope the youth could settle and flourish at United.
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That youthman is the real deal. Luis Fabiano type finishing!
dat go burn Chelsea back line next season :devil:
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First time ah see Messi get so much bat. Marquez owning him, lol
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Germany will crack that team
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not that it matter, but only 3 mins?
Big Up!
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Mexico played well, but the ref screwed them, then they shot themselves in the foot, then Tevez rubbed salt in the wound- There was just no coming back from that.
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Mexico played well, but the ref screwed them, then they shot themselves in the foot, then Tevez rubbed salt in the wound- There was just no coming back from that.
That about sums it up right there.
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Not impressed by Argentina. In general don't like them, but I can see them sucking some goals like England, and I think Germany will do it too.
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Hard luck Mexico...you left it out there but was outclassed by a better team. :beermug:
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Argentina worst game to date. They looked disjointed in midfield and in attack, plus Dimicheles continues to be a liability. Talk about a poor defender. Diego played into Mexico hands by taking off tevez, it allowed Mexico to push an extra player into the midfield.
As the saying goes "better to be lucky than good". Play poorly but still get a result, sign of a good team.
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If nothing is done after this W.Cup to assist officiating you really have to wonder.
if Argentina win by a big enough margin it will not matter because we will justify the result based on the overall performances. We kinda used to that in football now.
Sorta like the final Germany-England scoreline... "Germany was going to win anyways".
Yes they were. Get over it.....
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Chicaritooooooo....
I am very impressed with him...he is gonna be a big one...our very own Santiago Munez
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ARG defense is shit. Germany go work that
I was thinking the same thing. I kept saying all game that a better side will really test Argentina's defence and give them problems. Cyar wait for them to face Germany to see how good they really are.....and thank God its Germany cuz that shit side England woulda get creamed by the Argentinians....
I have to admit the Mexican players made some silly mistakes a couple times....they gave up the ball many times under no pressure whatsoever and paid for it when the defender made the mistake in his own area....
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Yes they were. Get over it.....
Maybe you juss on kicks... but I'm not sure why you inserting yuhself in de mix. I am merely agreeing with JDB's point about how easy it is to overlook officiating mistakes by trying to rationalize them away. I have nothing to "get over" because I dun move on long time... England winning or losing not buttering my bread.
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Yes they were. Get over it.....
Maybe you juss on kicks... but I'm not sure why you inserting yuhself in de mix. I am merely agreeing with JDB's point about how easy it is to overlook officiating mistakes by trying to rationalize them away. I have nothing to "get over" because I dun move on long time... England winning or losing not buttering my bread.
Really??....
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Yes they were. Get over it.....
Maybe you juss on kicks... but I'm not sure why you inserting yuhself in de mix. I am merely agreeing with JDB's point about how easy it is to overlook officiating mistakes by trying to rationalize them away. I have nothing to "get over" because I dun move on long time... England winning or losing not buttering my bread.
Really??....
Yes, really.
Anything else?
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http://www.youtube.com/v/aKHVBmfhWVc
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Yes they were. Get over it.....
Maybe you juss on kicks... but I'm not sure why you inserting yuhself in de mix. I am merely agreeing with JDB's point about how easy it is to overlook officiating mistakes by trying to rationalize them away. I have nothing to "get over" because I dun move on long time... England winning or losing not buttering my bread.
Really??....
Yes, really.
Anything else?
No. Yuh answer mih with this last posting....
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http://www.youtube.com/v/aKHVBmfhWVc
This was so weird....
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That youthman is the real deal. Luis Fabiano type finishing!
dat go burn Chelsea back line next season :devil:
lol
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Argentina and Germany have the best attacking players and they both have the worst defenders among the big teams, should make for a very exciting game. Somebody winning 3-2.
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Argentina survived today but dey goin down against Germany! Germany will tear dem apart! Can't stand henzie and his band of Argentinian divers!
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Didn't like the decision with the first goal ...That may have killed it for the mexicans ...
Again tech. needs to be introduced to correct mistakes ...it only takes a few seconds ...other sports are using it .
Back to the game ..... just looking at the haters now ...they backing every side against Argentina ...a pardner even force meh to bet ah case a stag ...so now he will proceed to back germany and most likely want to risk his car or house ..just because he hate Argentina.
I am still hoping for a brazil /argentina final ...it is possible this time around. That will be good for football. The two teams play attacking football and when they meet ...it is usually a classico.
there are many steps both have to overcome before that happens though..
maradona is still confusing critics with his tactics ...overloaded with attacking players he is giving rise to the beautiful game and the way it should be played. No matter the result he has shown himself to be capable ....who knows ...he may yet find himself running naked in the streets of buenos aires after this tournament.
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Didn't like the decision with the first goal ...That may have killed it for the mexicans ...
Again tech. needs to be introduced to correct mistakes ...it only takes a few seconds ...other sports are using it .
Back to the game ..... just looking at the haters now ...they backing every side against Argentina ...a pardner even force meh to bet ah case a stag ...so now he will proceed to back germany and most likely want to risk his car or house ..just because he hate Argentina.
I am still hoping for a brazil /argentina final ...it is possible this time around. That will be good for football. The two teams play attacking football and when they meet ...it is usually a classico.
there are many steps both have to overcome before that happens though..
maradona is still confusing critics with his tactics ...overloaded with attacking players he is giving rise to the beautiful game and the way it should be played. No matter the result he has shown himself to be capable ....who knows ...he may yet find himself running naked in the streets of buenos aires after this tournament.
Argentina's game was hardly "beautiful" after the third goal but I'll give them credit: If they do go all the way in this tournament I'll have to admit the best team won.
As far as your classico goes, I have two words:
3-0 ;)
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Didn't like the decision with the first goal ...That may have killed it for the mexicans ...
Again tech. needs to be introduced to correct mistakes ...it only takes a few seconds ...other sports are using it .
Back to the game ..... just looking at the haters now ...they backing every side against Argentina ...a pardner even force meh to bet ah case a stag ...so now he will proceed to back germany and most likely want to risk his car or house ..just because he hate Argentina.
I am still hoping for a brazil /argentina final ...it is possible this time around. That will be good for football. The two teams play attacking football and when they meet ...it is usually a classico.
there are many steps both have to overcome before that happens though..
maradona is still confusing critics with his tactics ...overloaded with attacking players he is giving rise to the beautiful game and the way it should be played. No matter the result he has shown himself to be capable ....who knows ...he may yet find himself running naked in the streets of buenos aires after this tournament.
Argentina's game was hardly "beautiful" after the third goal but I'll give them credit: If they do go all the way in this tournament I'll have to admit the best team won.
As far as your classico goes, I have two words:
3-0 ;)
You see you looking at the forest again ...... you missing the trees !! Look at the 3-0 Brazil vs argentina in the Copa America when brazil won ...look to at the 3-0 Argentina vs Brazil in world cup qualifier whem the albicilestes won .. look at bolts world records in both the 100 and the 200...the fact that the contest was over before the end did not mean that something special did not take place.
Did you notice maradona giving the shutdown signal ..a la Bilardo in ' 86 after diego's second goal against england ? The team took its feet off the gas after the contest was decided ...just like bolt !
So after the 3rd goal the team no longer need to play beautiful ...to impress who ?? if you missed what they are capable of before ...you would not notice it anyway if they did continue in the same vein ...
Now as for predicting the results of the classico ...3-0 is fair ..a hattrick from Messi to crown off the player of the tournament .. :beermug:
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Germany will break Argentina defence but Argentia midfield/frontline is the best in this world cup and will be too much for Germany in the end..I see a victory for Argentina in the Quarterfinal.
If Maradona win this world cup Pele will not be able to sleep for many nights :devil:
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Jai! ah ent feel yuh boy Messi scoring any goals dis tournament neh.
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Jai! ah ent feel yuh boy Messi scoring any goals dis tournament neh.
Quite frankly if Argentina wins the WC he won't care. ;D
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not no Argentina fan..........but I'sa messi fan "fus player ah buy for chelsea in fifa09 manager mode ;D" but I digress, d man doin ah job an' he doin it well,....MAKIN SPACE, allyuh ent see how much man does be arrong he when he have d ball, an u ent how many times he does fight or finesse he way free to create opportunity for tevez an' dem...........d man wukkin, end ah story!
dey goin home jus now doh 8) ::)
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Jai! ah ent feel yuh boy Messi scoring any goals dis tournament neh.
Quite frankly if Argentina wins the WC he won't care. ;D
nah man. give the man he bligh.
All these years he stuffing villareal down we throat to no reward, that is faith!
Let him play himself for as long as he can. De rope go give out soon enough... :D
ps Jai, you living in the past. De last time Argentina beat Brazil 3-0 T&T wasn't even a republic yet. In fact, all yuh can't see your way for de last 5 years...how much it is? something like 2 goals scored to 13 collected?
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http://guardian.co.tt/sports/football/2010/06/28/only-good-football-will-survive
Corneal must be have he own brand of TV. Argentina was in the clinic until they score. Mex hit de crossbar and had two other close chances before Arg wake up. Dis man does write real, real tata yuh know.
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Jai! ah ent feel yuh boy Messi scoring any goals dis tournament neh.
Quite frankly if Argentina wins the WC he won't care. ;D
nah man. give the man he bligh.
All these years he stuffing villareal down we throat to no reward, that is faith!
Let him play himself for as long as he can. De rope go give out soon enough... :D
ps Jai, you living in the past. De last time Argentina beat Brazil 3-0 T&T wasn't even a republic yet. In fact, all yuh can't see your way for de last 5 years...how much it is? something like 2 goals scored to 13 collected?
Midnight time to open yuh eyes so here goes ...The origins of the football rivalry between Argentina and Brazil can be traced to before football became so popular in both countries. During the colonization of America, Spain and Portugal often fought each other to gain control over vast territories.
Today few remember wars and other political confrontations between both countries, and only recall matches, victories, goals and other sport-related incidents. Their rivalry is found in almost all sports, but a men's football match between Argentina and Brazil is one that neither side wants to lose, and often acquires more importance than the championship within which it takes place. To exemplify the intensity of this rivalry, is enough to remember that after the 1946 incidents (see below), the two teams did not play against each other for ten years; either team would decline to play a given cup so that they would never have to play against the neighbouring country.
[edit] Games statistics
Matches For Argentina Draw For Brazil Goals
89 33 23 33 143/137[1]
Championship Titles Argentina Brazil
World Cup 2 5
Copa América
Panamerican Championship[2] (d) 15 10
Confederations Cup
Artemio Franchi Trophy[3] (d) 2 3
Olympic Gold[4] 2 0
Pan American Games 6 4
U-20 World Cup[5] 6 4
U-17 World Cup[6] 0 3
South American U-20 Championship 4 10
South American U-17 Championship 2 9
South American U-15 Championship 0 2
CONMEBOL Men Pre-Olympic Tournament[7] (d) 4 7
Since their first match in 1914, the national teams have played 93 matches counting friendlies, World Cup, and other official competitions (excluding matches between youth sides).
Even though there is a difference depending on whether the Argentine Football Association (AFA) or the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) does the counting, the near-balance is not in dispute. Of the 89 matches played between both national teams, 23 were draws, 33 were Brazilian victories and 33 for Argentina, with 143 goals for Argentina and 137 for Brazil. Only counting World Cup matches Brazil is ahead with 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss, whereas in the Copa América, Argentina has 15 victories, 8 draws and 9 defeats. Of 46 friendly matches, 18 were for Brazil, 15 for Argentina and 13 were draws. Since the first match between the two countries in 1914, the 1970s proved to be dark times for Argentina, with 6 defeats, 4 draws and no victories. Biggest wins are, for Argentina 6–1 (at home in Buenos Aires, 1940) and 1–5 (away at Rio de Janeiro, 1939), for Brazil 6–2 (at home in Rio de Janeiro, 1945 and 1960) and 1–4 (away at Buenos Aires, 1960).[8]
Argentina and Brazil's last continental final match took place on July 15, 2007 at Estadio José Pachencho Romero in Maracaibo, Venezuela and was the final match of Copa América 2007 which Brazil won by the score of 3–0. The first goal was scored by Júlio Baptista, while the second one was an own goal by Roberto Ayala after a pass attempt by Brazil's Dani Alves, who also scored the last goal.
The latest match between the two teams was for the 2010 World Cup qualifiers held on 5 September 2009 in Rosario, Argentina. Brazil won with two goals of Luís Fabiano and the final score of 3–1.
.....so depending on the era one team might have the ascendancy ....but we are both still in this competition so what matters is not so much the past but the present and future .
So who you backing ?
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Argentina and Germany have the best attacking players and they both have the worst defenders among the big teams, should make for a very exciting game. Somebody winning 3-2.
Name these worst defenders among de good teams and who in de bigger teams clearly better. Eng, France & Italy gone home, how much big team left incl. Arg & Germany. Spain now cutting they teeth in WC excellence and so is Portugal. Holland still trying to win de damn Cup. All four Brazilians in de back eh solid. None of de teams left have a real cork lock down back four.
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Jai! ah ent feel yuh boy Messi scoring any goals dis tournament neh.
You would not perhaps have a house and land in west or Eastmoorings that you want to part with ? If so just keep talking like that and you might get your dream ... :beermug:
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Chicharito is the fastest player in the World Cup
(http://g.ca.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Chicharito-is-the-fastest-player-in-the-World-Cu?urn=sow,251557)
By Daryl Grove
The FIFA egghead department has done some World Cup number crunching, and released its group stage stats. Good news is that all empirical evidence points to Sunday's Mexico vs Argentina Round of 16 game being awesome - numbers wise - as it features two of World Cup 2010's statistical leaders.
Argentina's Leo Messi had the most shots on target in the group stage with 11, and also shares the lead for most solo runs, as both he and Brazil's Maicon got dribbly with it 18 times. Argentina striker Gonzalo Higuain is also joint top top scorer with three goals, a record he shares with Spain's David Villa, Slovakia's Robert Vittek, and now Ghana's Asamoah Gyan.
The numbers don't all favor Argentina though. Mexico's Javier Hernandez has been clocked as the fastest player in the World Cup so far, with FIFA's speed guns (I'm assuming they use speed guns) catching the man they call Chicharito (The Little Pea) doing a top speed of 32.15 kph. That's close to 20 mph, for those of who don't speak metric. Not too fast for a car. But far too fast for most defenders.
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.....so depending on the era one team might have the ascendancy ....but we are both still in this competition so what matters is not so much the past but the present and future .
So who you backing ?
Stop asking answers nah.
I go take a sour Dungaesque Brazil over a resplendent Primadonna Argentina any day.
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.....so depending on the era one team might have the ascendancy ....but we are both still in this competition so what matters is not so much the past but the present and future .
So who you backing ?
Stop asking answers nah.
I go take a sour Dungaesque Brazil over a resplendent Primadonna Argentina any day.
So you backing Brazil ? or you not backing Argentina ? Ah find it have plenty passengers looking for seats now that their ship has been sunk ..we full eh pardner ! Some peeps eh saying who dey supporting ...dey backing every winning team !
You not on dat though ???
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Argentina and Germany have the best attacking players and they both have the worst defenders among the big teams, should make for a very exciting game. Somebody winning 3-2.
Name these worst defenders among de good teams and who in de bigger teams clearly better. Eng, France & Italy gone home, how much big team left incl. Arg & Germany. Spain now cutting they teeth in WC excellence and so is Portugal. Holland still trying to win de damn Cup. All four Brazilians in de back eh solid. None of de teams left have a real cork lock down back four.
IMO, as a defensive unit argentina and germany not looking very strong, right now Brazil (bastos only weak link), Uruguay and Holland (not really tested much) looking the best. Also I am considering the support they get from midfield in terms of defending.
Lucio, maicon and Juan playing very well and as a team they are good with Melo and Gilberto Silva helping Bastos. Julio Cesar in goal (nuff said)
Fucile, Godin and Pereira may not be the great when it comes to individual talent but as a team they defend very well. Lugano is a boss. Plus their midfielders get back in defence very quickly after losing the ball. Their keeper Muslera might be the weakest link.
Germany left back Badstuber was a disaster until he got replaced by boating who is slightly better. Friedrich is still trying to adjust to playing in the center of defence after being a right back for many years so his positioning is off on a regular basis, mertesacker is solid and lahm is a boss. I have doubts about Neuer in goal, looking a little shaky so far.
Gutierrez a big disaster at right back until maradona fixed it with Otamendi (a central defender), otamendi is a very talented player and I expect big clubs to chase him but right now he lacks experience at the international level and he is very new to the right back role (often left for dead after attack break down..ozil will have a field day). Demichelis is simply a shit snake. Burdisso is solid but he known for lapses in concentration at crucial moments, Samuel who started prior to him is till their best defender from a technical standpoint but he is very slow these days. Heinze is solid. Romero hasn’t been tested a lot but so far his positioning is poor but he looks like a keeper who play crap then save nuff penalties in a shootout.
Holland hasn’t been tested much but so far they looking good but the jury is still out but after their next game we will know for sure.
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.....so depending on the era one team might have the ascendancy ....but we are both still in this competition so what matters is not so much the past but the present and future .
So who you backing ?
Stop asking answers nah.
I go take a sour Dungaesque Brazil over a resplendent Primadonna Argentina any day.
So you backing Brazil ? or you not backing Argentina ? Ah find it have plenty passengers looking for seats now that their ship has been sunk ..we full eh pardner ! Some peeps eh saying who dey supporting ...dey backing every winning team !
You not on dat though ???
Mih father have a Brazil scrapbook from 1970 and he teach me everything I know about football before 2000.
I backing Brazil since the first world cup I was old enough to watch and understand in 1994.
Is TT first, Brazil second and good football third.
I doh be shame to hold up me hand when my side playing shit, but never fear, mih side dey and dey waiting on yours ;)
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Aguirre has resigned
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Aguirre has resigned
Saw the press conference. He didn't pull any punches. Took FULL responsibility; said he couldn't defend the indefensible. He even answered questions related to why players like Guardado did not start certain games. That stated ... many Mexicans have looked past Aguirre and lay the blame at the team owners who they see as not having Mexican football as a priority (many own other entities such as breweries and are regarded as treating football as a 5th or 6th priority (as one ESPN commentator railed ...
Other f**kery identified include giving Hugo Sanchez and Sven the job in the first place (this is viewed as delaying progress) ... Aguirre says a new coach should be put in place for the full 4 year cycle ... FMF president declined to discuss 'who' ... saying the press conference was about Aguirre (and out of respect for Aguirre, but he did outline the process that would be followed in choosing a name)
The general sentiment in Mexico is that they have systematic problems rather than a problem with the coach (although some sources ... me included are confounded about the use of Adolfo Bautista and others in a decisive game). Fellas in the media were literally SCREAMING and arguing with each other on the state of Mexican football. No direct blame was heard of Osorio for his pass that allowed the ARG 2-0 lead ... in fact, one commentator directly said their return from SA was much more about the football hierarchy than about the player's error.
Mexico is frustrated. Another second round exit ... and this one coincides with what they view as a generational transition to a possible golden generation ... Aguirre addressed the generation part by saying there were about 10 players in the current squad who will be key components for 2014 along with 5 other players who were in "the 30" named before the Cup but who were not selected to travel to SA ... according to him, add 5 or 6 players to that list and a full generational shift would be on.
Bottom line: Mexico if they pursue introspection will only become more worrisome in CONCACAF ... right now I think the unstated frustration for them is that they were unable to achieve separation from the US on the global stage ... they wanted that quarterfinal berth BADLY! Kinda burns them that both them and the US appear to be on level terms, especially given the different investment models both employ to achieve progress. What I caught of the the press conference was cordial. Says he's got 3 kids studying in 3 different countries ... time to handle their stories.