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Title: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: palos on July 12, 2010, 10:58:26 AM
Thuggery doh thrive.

SHAME ON HOLLAND!!!  :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :bs: :bs: :puking: :puking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou: :busshead: :busshead:


CONGRATS TO SPAIN!!  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: D.H.W on July 12, 2010, 11:00:17 AM
Thuggery doh thrive.

like you never watch a Chelsea game ah what?  :devil:
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: palos on July 12, 2010, 11:01:40 AM
Thuggery doh thrive.

like you never watch a Chelsea game ah what?  :devil:

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Brownsugar on July 12, 2010, 01:53:07 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

SHAME ON HOLLAND!!!  :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :bs: :bs: :puking: :puking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou: :busshead: :busshead:


CONGRATS TO SPAIN!!  :beermug: :beermug:

Oh lawd, oh lawd yuh just had to rub it een eh....steups.... ;D
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Red Mango on July 12, 2010, 01:57:35 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

like you never watch a Chelsea game ah what?  :devil:

 :rotfl:


:rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 12, 2010, 04:31:11 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

like you never watch a Chelsea game ah what?  :devil:

  from a fackin' manure fan!  ???
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: just cool on July 12, 2010, 04:45:10 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

SHAME ON HOLLAND!!!  :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :bs: :bs: :puking: :puking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou: :busshead: :busshead:


CONGRATS TO SPAIN!!  :beermug: :beermug:
But diving and rolling round like yuh get gunned down, apparently does!   fack spain and dat macomareman diving brand ah football. dutch football will always be ah better brand ah football to me, and if yuh want to be honest, german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.




PS: last i checked, football was ah mans game, not some little long haired wearing roll around on the ground sissy game.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: palos on July 12, 2010, 04:50:57 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

SHAME ON HOLLAND!!!  :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :bs: :bs: :puking: :puking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou: :busshead: :busshead:


CONGRATS TO SPAIN!!  :beermug: :beermug:
But diving and rolling round like yuh get gunned down, apparently does!   fack spain and dat macomareman diving brand ah football. dutch football will always be ah better brand ah football to me, and if yuh want to be honest, german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.




PS: last i checked, football was ah mans game, not some little long haired wearing roll around on the ground sissy game.

I didn't need any convincing, but seeing that you and I have different viewpoints on this matter, I'm now completely assured that not only did the better team win....it was the vastly superior team in every facet of the game that won as well.

Ah woulda have to check mehself if we did agree on this.  Now after readin your post...it jes confirms everything I originally thought.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: kicker on July 12, 2010, 04:54:11 PM
german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.


Did you watch the Germany - Spain game?
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: just cool on July 12, 2010, 05:17:53 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

SHAME ON HOLLAND!!!  :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :bs: :bs: :puking: :puking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou: :busshead: :busshead:


CONGRATS TO SPAIN!!  :beermug: :beermug:
But diving and rolling round like yuh get gunned down, apparently does!   fack spain and dat macomareman diving brand ah football. dutch football will always be ah better brand ah football to me, and if yuh want to be honest, german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.




PS: last i checked, football was ah mans game, not some little long haired wearing roll around on the ground sissy game.

I didn't need any convincing, but seeing that you and I have different viewpoints on this matter, I'm now completely assured that not only did the better team win....it was the vastly superior team in every facet of the game that won as well.

Ah woulda have to check mehself if we did agree on this.  Now after readin your post...it jes confirms everything I originally thought.
I'm sure you're basing your opinion on one solitary game! holland had the better record going forward, from qualifying to the semi's, they actually saved their worst game for last.

they played the tougher teams, was in ah tougher group and they trumped brazil, something i'm sure spain would've never been able tuh do, they also scored more goals and had more impressive wins.

spain actually got lucky, BC this should've been germany's WC, they lost muller and pedolsky for that game, had those two guys been able to play, spain woulda lose!!

so put it in it's proper prospective, not the best team won, but the luckier team did!!!
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: just cool on July 12, 2010, 05:23:28 PM
german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.


Did you watch the Germany - Spain game?
Yes i did, and the team with the "BETTER PLAN" won! i don't remember spain doing anything that special either. 

it would've been ah different story if roben scored the first sitter and fell when he needed to on the 2nd chance.

BTW, it really hard tuh play yuh best football wid 7 yellow cards. don't forget the foul on ellia just before the goal scored, how come no one ain't talkin bout that?
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: D.H.W on July 12, 2010, 05:29:59 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

like you never watch a Chelsea game ah what?  :devil:

  from a fackin' manure fan!  ???

my hate has no boundaries  :P
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 12, 2010, 05:40:26 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

like you never watch a Chelsea game ah what?  :devil:

  from a fackin' manure fan!  ???

my hate has no boundaries  :P

   Well, since yuh "hay-tin" on teams that beatin' up on yours, I guess Chelsea should welcome Spain to the club, not so?
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Socapro on July 12, 2010, 06:26:42 PM
Thuggery doh thrive.

SHAME ON HOLLAND!!!  :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :bs: :bs: :puking: :puking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou: :busshead: :busshead:


CONGRATS TO SPAIN!!  :beermug: :beermug:
But diving and rolling round like yuh get gunned down, apparently does!   fack spain and dat macomareman diving brand ah football. dutch football will always be ah better brand ah football to me, and if yuh want to be honest, german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.




PS: last i checked, football was ah mans game, not some little long haired wearing roll around on the ground sissy game.

I didn't need any convincing, but seeing that you and I have different viewpoints on this matter, I'm now completely assured that not only did the better team win....it was the vastly superior team in every facet of the game that won as well.

Ah woulda have to check mehself if we did agree on this.  Now after readin your post...it jes confirms everything I originally thought.
I'm sure you're basing your opinion on one solitary game! holland had the better record going forward, from qualifying to the semi's, they actually saved their worst game for last.

they played the tougher teams, was in ah tougher group and they trumped brazil, something i'm sure spain would've never been able tuh do, they also scored more goals and had more impressive wins.

spain actually got lucky, BC this should've been germany's WC, they lost muller and pedolsky for that game, had those two guys been able to play, spain woulda lose!!

so put it in it's proper prospective, not the best team won, but the luckier team did!!!

I can assure you that based on their performances in the final game (who played who on the path to getting to the final does not matter come the final) between Holland and Spain, that Spain was the better team and it was indeed a victory for football!

Let Holland go back to the drawing board with that brand of anti-football they now specialise in.

So glad they did not win the cup with that vicious anti-football brand as the end does not always justify the means!  ;D

That game sort of reminded me of a typical Ja vs T&T game with Ja replacing Holland and T&T replacing Spain, anti-football against proper football!  ;)
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: College on July 12, 2010, 07:24:41 PM
Netherlands actually impressed me.   They were grossly overmatched and changed the plan half way thru the first half and resorted to some rough play and almost stole the game if Robben didnt choke.  The wild tackling took Spain out of their groove an open up the game especially in the second half. "Good" tactics by the Dutch imo.....

 Football did win because the better team won...
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Jah Gol on July 12, 2010, 07:30:44 PM
How does one get to a point where one's judgement is so skewed that they just won't see reality ? It's crazy to say Spain got lucky. Every team plays defensively against them and apart from the first game all them get wood. Spain showed the whole world that the game at its core is about skill and craft not physical prowess and wild tackles from men like Van Bommel and De Jong. I applaud the Spaniards for their victory and their renaissance of the game, hopefully Brazil could get the act together for the next World Cup.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Socapro on July 12, 2010, 07:51:31 PM
How does one get to a point where one's judgement is so skewed that they just won't see reality ? It's crazy to say Spain got lucky. Every team plays defensively against them and apart from the first game all them get wood. Spain showed the whole world that the game at its core is about skill and craft not physical prowess and wild tackles from men like Van Bommel and De Jong. I applaud the Spaniards for their victory and their renaissance the game, hopefully Brazil could get the act together for the next World Cup.

 :thumbsup:

Also add T&T to that hopefully will get its act together for the next World Cup list!  ;)
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Brownsugar on July 12, 2010, 08:09:33 PM
How does one get to a point where one's judgement is so skewed that they just won't see reality ? It's crazy to say Spain got lucky. Every team plays defensively against them and apart from the first game all them get wood. Spain showed the whole world that the game at its core is about skill and craft not physical prowess and wild tackles from men like Van Bommel and De Jong. I applaud the Spaniards for their victory and their renaissance the game, hopefully Brazil could get the act together for the next World Cup.

 :thumbsup:

Also add T&T to that hopefully will get its act together for the next World Cup list!  ;)

Dream on brother......
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Jah Gol on July 12, 2010, 08:15:05 PM
How does one get to a point where one's judgement is so skewed that they just won't see reality ? It's crazy to say Spain got lucky. Every team plays defensively against them and apart from the first game all them get wood. Spain showed the whole world that the game at its core is about skill and craft not physical prowess and wild tackles from men like Van Bommel and De Jong. I applaud the Spaniards for their victory and their renaissance the game, hopefully Brazil could get the act together for the next World Cup.

 :thumbsup:

Also add T&T to that hopefully will get its act together for the next World Cup list!  ;)
If T&T qualify for 2014 I will name my first child (boy or girl) Jack.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Socapro on July 12, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
How does one get to a point where one's judgement is so skewed that they just won't see reality ? It's crazy to say Spain got lucky. Every team plays defensively against them and apart from the first game all them get wood. Spain showed the whole world that the game at its core is about skill and craft not physical prowess and wild tackles from men like Van Bommel and De Jong. I applaud the Spaniards for their victory and their renaissance the game, hopefully Brazil could get the act together for the next World Cup.

 :thumbsup:

Also add T&T to that hopefully will get its act together for the next World Cup list!  ;)
If T&T qualify for 2014 I will name my first child (boy or girl) Jack.

Some people were saying the same thing about Jack becoming T&T Prime Minister!  :devil:
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: JDB on July 13, 2010, 08:21:04 AM
german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.


Did you watch the Germany - Spain game?

spain actually got lucky, BC this should've been germany's WC, they lost muller and pedolsky for that game, had those two guys been able to play, spain woulda lose!!

Podolski played in the Spain game but that aside the most perplexing thing to me in this WC was the level of praise heaped on Germany. I feel that goals does make people bazodee. I felt that they were excellent from a tactical and execution standpoint but they were flattered by a slow England team and an Argentina team with no protection in front of the defence. I think the win aginst Australia was a open game where they took iniative and tore them apart but Australia just does not have the players to ramp with Germany. The Argentina and England games were about packing 9 men back and countering intelligently. A good plan and credit to them but very limited and it showed when they met Spain. And even Ghana and Serbia teams that played them as underdogs and did not leave space at the back nullified them.

I was happey to read some Jonathan Wilson columns recently that echoed my sentiment exactly.

From Jonathan Wilson's Guardian Blog (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/jul/09/world-cup-2010-tactics-the-question)

Which brings us to Germany. They too play a 4-2-3-1 and, although Philipp Lahm breaks forward occasionally, theirs is essentially a defensive set-up. Here again goals are the great betrayers; it was bewildering how much praise was heaped on their supposedly fresh, open approach just because they scored four goals in three games. This Germany was superb on the counterattack, and the interaction of the front four of Miroslav Klose, Thomas Müller, Lukas Podolski and Mesut Ozil was at times breathtaking. But this was reactive football.

In three games, Germany scored an early first goal – against Argentina and England, it was essentially handed to them – and in those games they ruthlessly took advantage of the space opponents left behind them as they chased an equaliser. England, Argentina and Australia all defended idiotically against them, and were severely punished. In the other three games, teams defended decently against them and the early goal didn't arrive surrounded by watercress on a silver salver. In those games Germany managed one goal, and that a wonder-strike from Ozil. Against Spain their poverty of ideas was such they ended up sending the lumbering centre-back Per Mertesacker forward as an auxiliary striker, an idea so bereft of subtlety that the only time I remember it working was when Dennis Smith once sent Gary Bennett forward for Sunderland against Oxford in 1990.


Which is a rehash of a column he did for SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/jonathan_wilson/07/07/germany.spain.analysis/index.html)

With a relatively young team, Germany did wonderfully well to reach the last four. Its ability on the counter was stunning, testament to the work Löw had done on the training ground with four attacking players: Mesut Ozil, who is young and surely destined for great things; Mueller, who is young and unproven; Miroslav Klose, who struggled for pitch time at Bayern Munich this season; and Lukas Podolski, who was offloaded by Bayern last summer. That this quartet could look so devastating shows what effort, teamwork and self-sacrifice can achieve.

They are, though, counterattackers, not attackers, and Germany's soccer, devastating as it has been, has largely been reactive in this tournament, delighting those who see goals as the be-all-and-end-all of football. Spain, meanwhile, is about control, and it controlled the semifinal as utterly as it did the final of Euro 2008 against Germany. Back then, in Vienna, the goal came relatively early, 33 minutes in, which allowed those who can't see beyond the score line to delight in the way it kept the ball from Germany in the final hour. In Durban, South Africa, on Wednesday, Spain kept the ball from Germany just as surely; it was just that the goal didn't arrive until the 73rd minute.

Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: dinho on July 13, 2010, 09:28:03 AM
^^ good post
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: kicker on July 13, 2010, 11:03:00 AM

The Argentina and England games were about packing 9 men back and countering intelligently.


Not true.  Germany's midfield had a presence.  Schweinsteiger in particular had alot of the ball against Argentina.... Argentina and England had their moments and there were significant spells when they pressed and could have gotten back into the game (England in particular- Argentina was all half chances, and nearly plays)....but what you wrote there is not true.  Germany may have scored primarily on counter attacks but in the run of play outside of counter-attacking, while the Germans were not as dominating as some might selectively remember, it was NOT nearly as one-sided as you make it out to be.

Germany had their weakness, and they rode some luck- just like EVERYONE else.  All in all, they were a top 3 or 4 team in this tournament, as their finishing position fairly represented. 
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: College on July 13, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
german football was the best brand i see in this entire WC.


Did you watch the Germany - Spain game?

spain actually got lucky, BC this should've been germany's WC, they lost muller and pedolsky for that game, had those two guys been able to play, spain woulda lose!!

Podolski played in the Spain game but that aside the most perplexing thing to me in this WC was the level of praise heaped on Germany. I feel that goals does make people bazodee. I felt that they were excellent from a tactical and execution standpoint but they were flattered by a slow England team and an Argentina team with no protection in front of the defence. I think the win aginst Australia was a open game where they took iniative and tore them apart but Australia just does not have the players to ramp with Germany. The Argentina and England games were about packing 9 men back and countering intelligently. A good plan and credit to them but very limited and it showed when they met Spain. And even Ghana and Serbia teams that played them as underdogs and did not leave space at the back nullified them.

I was happey to read some Jonathan Wilson columns recently that echoed my sentiment exactly.

From Jonathan Wilson's Guardian Blog (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/jul/09/world-cup-2010-tactics-the-question)

Which brings us to Germany. They too play a 4-2-3-1 and, although Philipp Lahm breaks forward occasionally, theirs is essentially a defensive set-up. Here again goals are the great betrayers; it was bewildering how much praise was heaped on their supposedly fresh, open approach just because they scored four goals in three games. This Germany was superb on the counterattack, and the interaction of the front four of Miroslav Klose, Thomas Müller, Lukas Podolski and Mesut Ozil was at times breathtaking. But this was reactive football.

In three games, Germany scored an early first goal – against Argentina and England, it was essentially handed to them – and in those games they ruthlessly took advantage of the space opponents left behind them as they chased an equaliser. England, Argentina and Australia all defended idiotically against them, and were severely punished. In the other three games, teams defended decently against them and the early goal didn't arrive surrounded by watercress on a silver salver. In those games Germany managed one goal, and that a wonder-strike from Ozil. Against Spain their poverty of ideas was such they ended up sending the lumbering centre-back Per Mertesacker forward as an auxiliary striker, an idea so bereft of subtlety that the only time I remember it working was when Dennis Smith once sent Gary Bennett forward for Sunderland against Oxford in 1990.


Which is a rehash of a column he did for SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/jonathan_wilson/07/07/germany.spain.analysis/index.html)

With a relatively young team, Germany did wonderfully well to reach the last four. Its ability on the counter was stunning, testament to the work Löw had done on the training ground with four attacking players: Mesut Ozil, who is young and surely destined for great things; Mueller, who is young and unproven; Miroslav Klose, who struggled for pitch time at Bayern Munich this season; and Lukas Podolski, who was offloaded by Bayern last summer. That this quartet could look so devastating shows what effort, teamwork and self-sacrifice can achieve.

They are, though, counterattackers, not attackers, and Germany's soccer, devastating as it has been, has largely been reactive in this tournament, delighting those who see goals as the be-all-and-end-all of football. Spain, meanwhile, is about control, and it controlled the semifinal as utterly as it did the final of Euro 2008 against Germany. Back then, in Vienna, the goal came relatively early, 33 minutes in, which allowed those who can't see beyond the score line to delight in the way it kept the ball from Germany in the final hour. In Durban, South Africa, on Wednesday, Spain kept the ball from Germany just as surely; it was just that the goal didn't arrive until the 73rd minute.



Cant agree with this breakdown. Every team has its DNA on how they are going to win games.... Germany is a good counter attacking side because they have the tools to do that, but to suggest that the England and Argentina game as about packing 9 men and counter attacking is a bit  misleading.

The first goal agains Eng was a long punt by the keeper and klose muscle upast the defender and finish. Another one was a build up from the right back position and a finish in the 18 yard box. The other 2 was on the break because Eng was overcommiting, a good attacking team will make you pay.

Against Argentina, they got an early goal from a set piece, a good team will capitalize on set plays.. One goal came from a short corner with some nice exchanges and good composure in the 6  yard box and a good  finish . Germany imo showed they could score in multiple scenarios.

 Against stronger defenses the goals and opportunities will be harder to come by.  Germany was totally outclassed by Spain who by the way,lost their first  and sored 1 goal in a fair amt of their games... are we to then suggest that Spain is not a good attacking team? or that they are just good at possessing the ball.  What this article fail to point out is that both counter attacking and keeping possession of the ball  are vialbe attacking options?

 Germany and Spain have different types of players and as such it dictated the final product on the field in terms of how they approached the game.. they both performed admirably regardless  of stlye etc etc ..
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: JDB on July 14, 2010, 06:44:06 AM
Kicker and College don't misunderstand me. I undertsand why Germany played how they played and it was devastatingly effective when it worked. I am also not questioning their final placement. They were a superior team by far than Argentina and England. What I have a problem with is its characterization as a brilliant attacking team. So much so that several people are saying that they played the best football of the tournament.

I actually like watching them because it is superb execution of counter-attacking football. I also think that their two holding midfielders had more attacking threat (on the break) than similar pairs i.e Melo and Gilberto - Van Pummel and De Jong or even Xabi and Busquets. Conversely Muller and Podolski were the hardest working wide men in the 4-2-3-1 system in the tournament being able to sit right in front of the full-backs in defence and then break intelligently and on offense.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: sammy on July 14, 2010, 07:22:33 AM
i dunno how ppl bigging up spain soo much. Their goal against Germany came from a set play from a defender for all of the possession they had. I could never like watching football where men making 50 passes across the midfield with no aim. They weren't making through passes into the box, they still had to kick the ball on the wing for Ramos (only) to make a cross which except for puyol in the first half went to no-one really. The othr "big" play came when Iniesta decided to run into the box and crossed the ball right across the face or the goal.

For all that possesion daiz all?? steups...T&T could play like spain too eh know, we keeper and defender could play raising in the back to pad the possession stats and hope for a set play to win.
OHO we could also bring some smallie indians on the side to fall down and roll with every lil touch to get free kicks to get the set play goals - look i go volunteer .

For all the hate I hate brazil, i glad they dont play that way. Imagine two sides meet up and only playing pass for pass across the half line.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Jah Gol on July 14, 2010, 07:59:13 AM
jook it until it buss.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2010, 08:17:04 AM
Spain played some of d most boring football I had seen in a while, I had looked forward to seeing this "attacking" football that they play, but never really left satisfied, sunday will be recorded as d fus time I fall asleep in a world cup final, as I fell asleep on d semifinal, I find it wasn't as true to say "they kept ball away from germany" as much as Germany made tentative efforts to get the ball....................in my view Germany didn't play like they played their earlier games because Spain had won d psychological battle even before dat game start..............maybe there is something to trying to play or feelin u could play better than u really are, because d teams dat jus say "Spain who?" went for it had some success..........even our very own hate bait USA
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: willi on July 14, 2010, 08:26:17 AM
Spain played boring football?
Hahahahahahahahah

Kicks man!

As to only getting 2 chances against Gerrmany...did you forget Pedro's non-pass to a free torres or Llorentes near free header and Puyols first half header and, and and...
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: palos on July 14, 2010, 08:40:43 AM
Spain played boring football?
Hahahahahahahahah

Kicks man!

As to only getting 2 chances against Gerrmany...did you forget Pedro's non-pass to a free torres or Llorentes near free header and Puyols first half header and, and and...

People who sayin Spain played boring football most likely brought up on a diet of helicopter football from the English Leagues.  One setta kick and rush ting.

Basically dem is a perfect example of de sayin...."Corbeaux cyah eat sponge cake!"
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2010, 08:47:21 AM
come on, for most of dey games they kept ah holdin pattern and systematically test the opponents walls for weakness.................intelligent?............mostly definitely!, adventurous ?................hardly!, exciting?...........sporadically at best.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: dinho on July 14, 2010, 08:51:44 AM
consider that maybe.... just maybe, spain's inability to play enough through balls is a testament to the strength and organization of the Paraguayan, German and Dutch defences?!

allyuh need to understand that in football today, tactics is king over substance. It have no split open defence, beats and thru ball thing again, a team obeying a correct system with team defence will stifle anybody. New Zealand couldn't get bore and even Trinidad in 2006 showed this to be true.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Jah Gol on July 14, 2010, 08:54:02 AM
Every team that plays against Spain plays very defensively and for good reason. Spain is just like Barcelona, they know that they have to pick a lock for every game. You can't pick that lock with aimless long balls and hail mary shots. I think they could have been more clinical in front the goal. But you have to admire the confidence they have that they can create more opportunities to score than any opponent. This is where we saw a level of complacency from them. David Villa could easily have double his tally if he was more accurate.

I was thoroughly entertained by Spain's play. Jook it until it buss is the name of the game. That's what they did and thats why they're are champions of the whole world.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
notice I said tested, and they never did really manage ah "breach" as much as d other side dropped a grenade in dey own bunker so to speak..............brilliant psychological warfare,  tsung tzu would be proud.......but also well rested ;D
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: palos on July 14, 2010, 09:23:51 AM
notice I said tested, and they never did really manage ah "breach" as much as d other side dropped a grenade in dey own bunker so to speak..............brilliant psychological warfare,  tsung tzu would be proud.......but also well rested ;D

So Puyol goal and Iniesta goal were examples of the other side droppin a grenade in dem own bunkers rather than Spain breachin dey defence?  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2010, 09:44:26 AM
notice I said tested, and they never did really manage ah "breach" as much as d other side dropped a grenade in dey own bunker so to speak..............brilliant psychological warfare,  tsung tzu would be proud.......but also well rested ;D

So Puyol goal and Iniesta goal were examples of the other side droppin a grenade in dem own bunkers rather than Spain breachin dey defence?  ??? ::)
puyol not so much, but iniesta in a sense yes, holland was dey own worst enemy for much of that game.....u seself ::)
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: palos on July 14, 2010, 09:46:45 AM
notice I said tested, and they never did really manage ah "breach" as much as d other side dropped a grenade in dey own bunker so to speak..............brilliant psychological warfare,  tsung tzu would be proud.......but also well rested ;D

So Puyol goal and Iniesta goal were examples of the other side droppin a grenade in dem own bunkers rather than Spain breachin dey defence?  ??? ::)
puyol not so much, but iniesta in a sense yes, holland was dey own worst enemy for much of that game.....u seself ::)

So in your opinion....holland beat deyself.

Is nutting dat spain do dat cause Holland to resort to thuggery to try and win de game.

Dem alone had goalscoring opportunities....and if dey did play "better"....dey woulda win de game.  It was a dutch back pass dat cause Iniesta to plant de ball in de back a de dutch net.  Ent?
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
notice I said tested, and they never did really manage ah "breach" as much as d other side dropped a grenade in dey own bunker so to speak..............brilliant psychological warfare,  tsung tzu would be proud.......but also well rested ;D

So Puyol goal and Iniesta goal were examples of the other side droppin a grenade in dem own bunkers rather than Spain breachin dey defence?  ??? ::)
puyol not so much, but iniesta in a sense yes, holland was dey own worst enemy for much of that game.....u seself ::)

So in your opinion....holland beat deyself.
not in d sense dat u tryin to make out but yes

Is nutting dat spain do dat cause Holland to resort to thuggery to try and win de game.
it seemed to me dat d thuggery was ah common theme in d dutch play almost from d start....... but then I was in and out (sleepin) at times in the first half.

Dem alone had goalscoring opportunities....and if dey did play "better"....dey woulda win de game.  It was a dutch back pass dat cause Iniesta to plant de ball in de back a de dutch net.  Ent?
 ??? doh know where yuh tryin to go wit diss, but dat drop d grenade statement wasn't intended mean spain didn't do nothing atall, as much as what they did caused a bit of suicide that lead to openings they got. would make good reading in a military journal, <sarcasm>an explosive game of chess</sarcasm> but a fairly uneventful game of football.

but dais jus me, I watch dat game as a neutral
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: kicker on July 14, 2010, 10:59:30 AM
Spain's game is patient and calculated- some people enjoy it, some don't. 

Depending on the opposition and how the chemistries work on a given day it could be fun to watch, or it could lull you to sleep...

Their results cannot be disputed though.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2010, 11:14:39 AM
Spain's game is patient and calculated- some people enjoy it, some don't. 

Depending on the opposition and how the chemistries work

on a given day it could be fun to watch
saw bits of dat david Villa goal where he ripped the defense new assholes before slammin d ball into net ....forget who they played though

, or it could lull you to sleep...
got alot of dat

Their results cannot be disputed though.

true, true :beermug:
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Dutty on July 14, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
Spain's game is patient and calculated- some people enjoy it, some don't. 

Depending on the opposition and how the chemistries work on a given day it could be fun to watch, or it could lull you to sleep...

Their results cannot be disputed though.

Exactly bredda, some people enjoy watching paint dry and some prefer to splash dey wall wile with vibrant colours and watch de drips race dong de wall
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: sammy on July 14, 2010, 12:06:02 PM
Spain's game is patient and calculated- some people enjoy it, some don't. 

Depending on the opposition and how the chemistries work on a given day it could be fun to watch, or it could lull you to sleep...

Their results cannot be disputed though.

nice way to put it
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: Jumbie on July 14, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
That wound real deep boy - doh worry the next WC in allyuh home.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: richpy on July 14, 2010, 08:27:34 PM

Way, look wha things come to! Men crying down a team for actually trying to play good football

Men really getting chain up with this negative brand these days in the name of tactics, boy?
Guess I mistook all Trinis for football romantics.

Forgive meh eh, but counter-attacking 'tactics' is cheap, shit football





Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: sammy on July 15, 2010, 07:10:15 AM

Way, look wha things come to! Men crying down a team for actually trying to play good football

Men really getting chain up with this negative brand these days in the name of tactics, boy?
Guess I mistook all Trinis for football romantics.

Forgive meh eh, but counter-attacking 'tactics' is cheap, shit football




So wait, when ever a side win the ball in their own half, they should wait for the other team to run back in their box and then launch an attack? or else is branded cheap shit?
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: pecan on July 15, 2010, 07:25:43 AM
this exchange on the style of play is not dissimilar to NHL ice hockey and Olympic Style ice hockey - thuggery versus clean skating and passing.  Some like the former and some like the latter.

Personally I prefer Spain kind of play, superb ball handling skills and teamwork.
Title: Re: Happy Days! Football won yesterday
Post by: kicker on July 15, 2010, 09:13:48 AM
"good football" is not always entertaining.

"bad football" is not always boring.