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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: January 18, 2018, 09:02:19 AM »

Great feedback Maxg. Which hotel did they stay? What if the process next year is more tourist friendly overall? Remember, this was done by SPORTT with no consulation from other entities until confronted.

What if the overall experience could be more synergized and planned out with consultation from the team as to their needs and expecations?

Also, did anyone from the SPORTT ask you to do a feedback form?

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Football / Re: Lawrence: I’m still searching for striker; T&T coach blames individual errors

« on: September 07, 2017, 01:51:55 PM »

Wrong approach. If he isn't cultivated throuh an organized local youth system, he is not a solution.

Who? Hallam Hope?

Any hypothetical player. We must provide the tools for success for each player for there to be any hope of collective success in the future. Looking for one striker who can save us instead of creating a base of athletes from which some very good players will struggle to make the national team means we trying to stave off defeat instead of creating a pathway to success.

No reason we can't do both.

Besides incompetence, I mean.

That being said, talent will be more compelled to lend a hand if we show impetus. It really is no secret why players are reluctant to sign on, and some of them born here.

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Football / Re: Lawrence: I’m still searching for striker; T&T coach blames individual errors

« on: September 07, 2017, 01:34:47 PM »

Wrong approach. If he isn't cultivated throuh an organized local youth system, he is not a solution.

Who? Hallam Hope?

Any hypothetical player. We must provide the tools for success for each player for there to be any hope of collective success in the future. Looking for one striker who can save us instead of creating a base of athletes from which some very good players will struggle to make the national team means we trying to stave off defeat instead of creating a pathway to success.

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Football / Re: Lawrence: I’m still searching for striker;

« on: September 07, 2017, 08:59:31 AM »

Wrong approach. If he isn't cultivated throuh an organized local youth system, he is not a solution.

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What about Track & Field / Re: The Lightning Bolt Road Show!!

« on: August 25, 2017, 10:53:55 AM »

So true. Wish more could understand the concept.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Jereem Richards breaks Boldon's record

« on: August 09, 2017, 03:16:08 PM »

Jereem! Would have been the fastest qualifier. But slow down and looked around. Which gave him 20.14. Isaiah Young 20.12. But he had to run out hard for that.

Yohan Blake out.
Van Niekerk came 3rd. Just made the final.

Actually, given the wind... he's the fastest by far. His heat was the only one with a head wind and heat one had a tail wind too fast to register legal times.

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Other Sports / T&T claims first ever CCCAN title

« on: July 04, 2017, 01:37:18 PM »

http://www.guardian.co.tt/sports/2017-07-03/tt-claims-first-ever-cccan-title


Published:


Monday, July 3, 2017
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Members of T&T's Gold medal winningBoys 18+ 400m Freestyle Relay team, Dylan Carter, Tariq Lashley, Joshua Romany and Jabari Baptiste, during day 3 of the XXX CCCAN Swimming Championships 2017, at the National Aquatic Centre, Couva.




Host T&T claimed an historic first ever overall title when the 30th Central American and Caribbean Swimming Confederation (CCCAN) Championship concluded at the National Aquatic Centre, in Balmain, Couva, on Sunday night, holding off the challenge of Puerto Rico.

The win by T&T marked the first time an English-speaking country had ever topped the overall points table and it came via the all-round effort of the 64-member swimming team as well as the Open Water members, four water polo teams, the two divers and the synchronized swimmers.

Overall, T&T swimmers without the injured USA-based Dylan Carter, who missed the final two nights of competition, added five gold, seven silver and three bronze on Sunday’s last day of competition for a final tally of 65 (21 gold, 26 silver and 18 bronze) for 938.5 swimming points and 1 2,595 combined from the five disciplines and top spot overall

Puerto Rico topped the swimming points table with 987 and also won the most medals in the swimming competition, 74 (32 gold, 19 silver and 23 bronze), but was second overall with 1, 217 points.

On Sunday, the quintet of Amira Pilgrim, Cherelle Thompson, Christopher Dieffenthaller, and 13-14 girl’s and 18 & Over Bosy 400m medley relay teams all won gold.

Pilgrim won gold in the 15-17 girl’s 50m freestyle in 26.26 seconds to beat Curacao’s Chade Nersicio (26.45) and Panama’s Cathy Cooper (26.47) while T&T’s Danielle Williams was joint seventh with Aruban, Elisabteh Timmer in 27.50.

Thomspn added gold in the 18 & Over girl’s 50m freestyle in 26.69 seconds ahead of teammate Kristin Julien (26.74) and Jamaica’s Kelsie Campbell (26.91).

Dieffenthaller continued his impressive performances when he top honors in the 13-14 boy’s 100m breaststroke in one minutes, 09.10 seconds followed by Barbadian N’Kosi Dunwoody (1:09.48) and Honduran Alejandro Panting (1:10.29).

The 13-14 girl’s team of Jahmia Harley, Gabriela Donahue, Regan Allen and Jada Chatoor won gold in the 400m medley relay in four minutes, 35.03 second well ahead of Puerto Rico (4:38.28) and Costa Rica (4:40.78).

And the quartet of Jabari Baptiste, Tariq Lashley, Christian Awah and Joshua Romany capped off the competition for the host in winning the final event on the programme, the 18 & Over boy’s 400m medley relay in a new meet record of 3:54.84 to better the 2009 mark of 3:55.29 set by Venezuela. Second was Puerto Rico in 4:00.15 and Costa Rica, third in 4:01.40.

Romany also added a second place finish in the 18 & Over boy’s 50m freestyle in 23.06, to trail Luis Flores (22.85) and Aruba’s Mikel Schreuders’ (23.49).

Gabriela Donahue added silver in the 13-14 girl’s 100m breaststroke in 1:17.14 well adrift of Puerto Rico’s Paola Guerra’s 1:16.26 while Barbadian, Ashley Weekes, 1:19.21.

The quartet of Zarek Wilson, Kyle West, Kadon Williams and Riquelio Joseph ended second in the 11-12 boy’s 400m medley relay in four minutes, 34.20 seconds behind champions Pueto Rico who clocked 4:30.52 with Barbados, third in 4:35.17.

Another medley relay silver came via the 13-14 boy’s combination of Delroy Tyrrell, Christopher Dieffenthaller, Aqeel Joseph and Malik Nelson in 4:11.28 behind Bahamas (4:06.66) while Costa Rica took third in 4:13.52.

There was also a silver for the 15-17 girl’s medley team of Ornella Walker, Ileana Bocage, Racine Ross and Amira Pilgrim in 4:33.33 with Puerto Rico taking gold in a new record of 4:27.12 to better the 1987 mark of Costa Rica, 4:31.27 while Honduras got bronze in 4:36.04.

The 15-17 boy’s medley combination of Justin Samlalsingh, Jeron Thompson, Kael Yorke and Emil Goin was second in 3:56.68 to trail fellow record breakers Puerto Rico who won in 3:54.75 while Barbados got bronze in 4:02.60. The previous record was 3:56.91 set in 1993 by Cuba.

T&T’s Jada Chatoor was third in the 13-14 girl’s 400m freestyle in four minutes, 32.78 seconds well behind Daniela Alfaro of Costa Rica who won gold in 4:30.52 and Honduran, Michelle Ramirez who got silver in 4:31.21.

Jahmia Harley was third in the 13-14 Girls 200m backstroke in two minutes, 27.05 behind Barbadian Danielle Titus (2:22:39), a new meet record to lower 1985 mark of 2:22.50 set by Silvia Poll. Guatemalan, Vanegas Yanci got silver in 2:24.41 and Adriana Gooding of T&T was sixth in 2:33.05

And the team of Kristin Julien, Colleen Parag, Kira Goin and veteran Sharntelle Mc Lean combined for a silver in the 18 & Over girl’s 400m medley relay in 4:40.78 with Costa Rica taking gold in 4:34.35 and Honduras, silver, in 4:37.58.

T&T other finalists on Sunday

Other results

400m freestyle

Girls 11-12: Zoe Anthony - 7th - 4:56.16 mins

Boys 11-12: Nikoli Blackman - 7th - 4:44.54

Boys 13-14: Delroy Tyrrell - 8th - 4:42.59

Boys 15-17: Emil Goin - 4th - 4:10.14; Daniel Retana - 6th - 4:12.05

Girls 18 & Over: Shania David - 8th - 5:13.97

 

50m freestyle

Boys 11-12: Kadon Williams - 4th - 26.84; Zarek Wilson - 6th - 27.43.

Girls 13-14: DeNicha Lewis - 7th - 28.47

Boys 13-14: Aqeel Joseph - 4th - 25.16; 6. Jonathan Constantine - 6th - 25.51

Boys 15-17: Jeron Thompson - 5th - 24.05

 

100m breaststrokee

Boys 11-12: Riquelio Joseph - 6th - 1:18.04; Kyle West - 7th - 1:18.08.

Boys 15-17: Jeron Thompson - 6th - 1:07.98; Obadayah Ince - 8th - 1:09.46

Girls 18 & Over: Colleen Parag - 8th - 1:25.89

Boys 18 & Over: Tariq Lashley - 8th - 1:07.38

 

200m backstroke

Girls 11-12: Neishelah Caseman - 8th - 2:52.98

Boys 11-12: Zarek Wilson - 4th - 2:28.84

Girls 13-14: Ornella Walker - 6th - 2:34.07

Boys 15-17: Josiah Parag - 6th - 2:18.23

Girls 18 & Over: Kristin Julien - 4th - 2:33.48; Shania David - 7th - 2:56.20

Boys 18 & Over: Jonathan Farah - 7th - 2:19.10; Bradley Thomas - 8th - 2:24.86

 

400m medley relay

Girls 11-12: T&T (Gabrielle Vickles, Arielle Dickson, Zoe Anthony, Savannah Che-Wah) - 6th - 5:05.23.

1. Puerto Rico - 978 pts

2. T&T - 938.50

3. Costa Rica - 676

4. Honduras - 482.5

5. Barbados - - 447

6. Bermuda - 392

7. Guatemala - 387

8. Panama - 338

9. Jamaica - 304

10. Bahamas - 231.5

11. El Salvador - 180

12. Aruba - 169.5

13. US Virgin Islands - 163

14. Suriname - 87.5

15. Curacao - - 84

16. Dominican Republic - 71.5

17. Grenada - 53

18. Antigua & Barbuda - 51

19. St Lucia - 47.5

20. French Guyana - 23

21. Nicaragua - 13.5

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Other Sports / Riding a wave T&T win overall CCCAN title, 2nd in swimming

« on: July 04, 2017, 10:39:05 AM »

Big up Maxg's young G's who stepped up big time.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170703/sports/tampt-win-overall-cccan-title-2nd-in-swimming

Trinidad and Tobago hosted the Central American and Caribbean Swimming Federation (CCCAN) Championships for the first time and also conquered CCCAN for the first time. And president of the Amateur Swimming Association of Trinidad and Tobago (ASATT) Wendell Lai Hing is pleased with the historic feat.

Team TTO, led by gold medal performances from the 11-12 age-group straight up to the 18 and over contingent, were declared the overall CCCAN champions when the curtain came down on the championship on Sunday night at the National Aquatics Centre in Balmain, Couva, However, the swimming contingent had to settle for second behind Puerto Rico.

“This is actually an historic event,” said Lai Hing as he reflected on T&T's performance in the biennial championships.

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)

« on: June 08, 2017, 05:41:57 PM »

Carlos

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)

« on: June 08, 2017, 01:31:09 PM »

trini_stallion, while your suggestion is noble, you ignoring the reality of the modern day football, and the lives of people who playing the sport. It is an honour and privilege to play for your country, but honour and previlege don't put food on the table, or pay for severe injuries. Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I old enough to know when TT players used toplay for honour and dignity. The fans loved it, but TT football did not go anywhere. In the "bun and sweet drink" days, unless you played for a factory team or a govt ministry team, your international career was limited.

Ask what happened to Nobbie Philips from TECSA who got injured while playing against Nautico. He was left to see for himself. Did not play for the national team after that. Ask Mikey Grayson what happened after playing in WC against Haiti. Got an ankle injury. No compensation. His career finished around 28 yrs of age.

With all the money some players making, yes, they should offer their service for "free". Actually some players do. You read about some African players " ponying up" money for other less well payed members of their national to play African Cup and WC. But the reality is, that is the exception to the rule.

Noble?

Is pure assness.

Who the PAYING public come out to see?

Who the TV rights people paying to see?

When advertisers spend $$$ hoping to capture eyes on TV and elsewhere when the National Team playing....who those eyes come to see?


When those eyes come out in their thousands to see administrators and a logo of the country flag and NOT the players, then get back to me bout playing for pride and honour

Otherwise.....is pure, unadulterated, f**kery that stallion chattin dey

If you don't understand where I coming from you just dotish. How cld I express my view in a different way...one more try...to play for a national team, one should not be motivated by financial compensation by playing those said games. If I was a player, I would be motivated by the opportunities it may bring...in terms of exposure, experience, and show casing my talent to possible scouts. It would be about no chump change...100/200$us per game...nah man

That is different from what you said originally. Motivation and policy are two different things. There should be a remuneration policy, even if the motivational levels are different. I'm sure everyone who has a chance to play in a World Cup feels highly motivated. Doesn't mean they should not get paid.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 08, 2017, 09:57:15 AM »

You answer a question with a question. Usually the last futile attempt at legitmizing an argument you have lost.

Let me answer you though:

I started with the drum pattern and provided examples of a kick and snare sequence which is present in soca songs of the past and even some present. I didn't even mention the floor tom present in certain bars when the brass is playing. The floor tom underscoring the beat is something that existed in the says of Shorty, which in those days replaced the snare in many recordings.

I will further explain myself in saying that there is a compelling argument that the song has commanding lyrics in tis hook which is ever present in modern dancehall and soca. The song is called "front of the line" with the hook insisting that the subject of the song 'step to the front of the line' which in many a party soca song can paralleled to Superblue telling the crowd to 'get something and wave' Nigel Lewis telling the crowd to  'move it to the left' or Machel telling the revellers to 'hold on to the big truck'.

Since then we have had American artists like Fatman Scoop doing the same thing and dancehall artists like Elephant Man and Voicemail belting out instructions in their songs, 8 years after hearing Jamaicans  say 'soca a eediat music, only a sing bout instructions to rass'.

Now I reiterate that this is not necessarily a soca song, but my original question to you was how did it no contain much of a soca element.

Further, opinions on this subject can go either way depending on the ear that is listening. I posited though, that Trinis are quick to give up something that they played a role in, because it doesn't meet certain criteria, which I think is an injustice to our indigenous music and the roll it can play in the wider world.

If this was the case with other art forms, then maybe one could argue that Bob Marley's  Could You Be Loved was not actually reggae, but Marley's attempt at securing a disco/soul American market, which from interviews of those around him then, we know to be fact. But then Shaggy's It Wasn't Me, is still the highest selling reggae song of all time, and one of the most successful singles in history. What made that reggae/dancehall?

5 years earlier he and Ini Kamoze had pop hits with soul beats behind them, yet Jamaicans and others identified with them as reggae songs. We are nowhere near that level of adjustment in the case of Front of the Line, yet you are willing to say Trinidad and Tobago's music had little no no influence on that? One of the producers is a friggin Trini!!

Start listening.... really listening, and then make your statement. Listen to Calypso in the 50's and listen to Calypso just 10 years later in the late 60's and they sound completely different. Same genre though. Music moves on, maybe it's time you do too.

I have presented my argument. I eagerly await yours. If you could have the dignity of providing examples with your arguments instead of simply regurgitating previous posts, it would be appreciated.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 08, 2017, 03:32:51 AM »

You wasting mine clearly. Like I said the Pop/Dancehall tune produced by Major Lazer clearly has not much Soca influence and you came to argue a soca drum beat which is not there, instead its the typical EDM Major Lazer beat. Yes you wasting my time

Then explain what is clearly soca and why that EDM beat cannot and has not borrowed elements of soca.


Easy question. If you respond with more conjecture and no direct answer, then I done wasting both our time.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 07, 2017, 06:23:19 PM »

No one said the song is soca. You said there aren not many soca elements and I disagreed and cited the drum pattern as being soca influenced.

I then asked you to qualify your statement and you have not been able to answer any of my questions.

I can see i am wasting my time.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 07, 2017, 01:14:46 PM »

So what makes it a Major Lazer EDM beat? Qualify your statement and stop dancing around the issue (pun intended).

Better yet, explain to me what makes something soca.

All tunes mentioned have the sequence of kick and snare that exists in the song in question btw. 

The problem as I see it as that we are quick to pigeon hole our own music and disqualify it, making soca very narrow and one dimensional in the mind of many a Trini. Sadly this is why our music finds difficulty breaking into other markets, because WE keep it back by saying garbage like "dat ehn soca!".

Clearly you have sat in studios around Trinidad and discussed this with producers and writers, so let me stop embarrasing myself.

BTW, is AOA by Machel EDM or soca? I'm so confused!

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 07, 2017, 07:17:47 AM »

So what makes you so sure that it is exclusive to EDM? The alternate switch between kick and snare was adopted since the early 1980's in soca. Tonal changes through the years may influence many other genres, including reggaeton, dancehall, and EDM. But that drum pattern orginated in 1980's soca. See songs like The Hammer, Sing in She Party, Doh Rock It So etc.

But hey, you are the authority on all things Trinidad culture right?

Can we move forward, or you still want to argue drum patterns?

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 07, 2017, 07:08:03 AM »

I'm your huckleberry

Let's start with the drum pattern which is used throughout the song.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel Montano Thread!!

« on: June 06, 2017, 08:10:52 AM »

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Major Lazer has a new tune with Machel and Konshens. More Pop and dancehall combination. Not much Soca influence. Still will most likely be a big song

'Front of the Line' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYxADz3ztA&t=71s
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How does this not have much soca influence.

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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: June 04, 2017, 11:27:45 AM »

Keep an open ear. Nothing in stone.

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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: June 02, 2017, 10:29:24 AM »

Congrats maxg. Going to be a great event.

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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: May 02, 2017, 01:17:08 PM »

Times for foreign based athletes should be submitted by May 21st. Sunday before the start of national open championships.

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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: May 02, 2017, 07:10:50 AM »

Once they agree to represent us. We are a small nation, and must focus on our own development, while tapping into the resources of those who are eligible to represent us outside of TnT. Nothing wrong with that.

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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: May 01, 2017, 08:44:32 AM »

Men's 18 and over could be our strongest age group at CCCAN. The only thing missing is a sprint breastroker. I never expected us to have any distance freestyle men, and not sure that we will, but Tariq takes care of IM and distance breast for us. We are heavy in the sprint free and fly department as usual. Even the 4 x 200 relay will be strong, with Dylan already 1:48 this season. With the other guys overing between 1:53 and 1:56, we will surely challenge for gold in that relay.

Right after that group is the boys 15-17, and we have some foreign based vying for spots with the locals which is shaping up to be exciting. 4 x 100 free relay will be tough.

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 24, 2017, 03:35:43 AM »

We got nudged put of 2rd by Cayman islands, but we topped the medal table with the most good at the meet. We improved our points total by over 100 easily from last year. So certain parameters have brought satisfaction, but there is a lot of damage to repair in local aquatics.

Onto CCCAN.

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Other Sports / Re: lil swimmers

« on: April 23, 2017, 08:38:33 PM »

National records for both Lashley and Goin on both 200's. Maxg, the 200 fly result wasn't posted. I will need to see it to have it ratified.

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 18, 2017, 02:16:11 PM »

Swima, how does the association handle/recruit swimmers from Tobago? Historically, what has happened?

There is competitive swimming in Tobago and a club that competes at all national events. There are three swimmers on the team who either currently or previously training in Tobago.

That's positive.

Would you say that one club meets the needs sufficiently? Seems like a higher yield would be viable?

It's a start. If you want to break it down completely, no one is really working at full pelt. Lots of systematic issues. Almost all coaches are part time. Almost all clubs lack sufficient pool time. The aquatic centre provides limited options due to the the financial situation in the country and certain bugetary constraints I am not at liberty to speak about.

It's time the country focus on developing a sporting academy and do systematic development of its young athletes. Too many slipping through the crack. I have heard mention of it in high places, so maybe it is on its way.

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 18, 2017, 12:36:56 PM »

Swima, how does the association handle/recruit swimmers from Tobago? Historically, what has happened?

There is competitive swimming in Tobago and a club that competes at all national events. There are three swimmers on the team who either currently or previously training in Tobago.

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 18, 2017, 12:35:57 PM »

Expected that Bahamas would be ahead at home. The goal this year is top three. By 2019, we want to start winning again.

I would like to see an improvement from last year. For me its not really what position we finish regardless if its first, second, or third

...and how would you qualify that improvement?

Not by finishing first second or third but instead by medal achievement and improvement in swim times. We know how performance has regressed over the last few years so we can compare this year to recent years

Fair enough, but we award the overall trophy on the basis of a points tally. Medals tell part of the story, and points provide a little more depth perspective. I think we are moving past our previous medal tally, but we have had some great individual performances. We are still lacking in the depth department, though I think we are getting a little bit better.

Regards.

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 18, 2017, 04:44:53 AM »

Expected that Bahamas would be ahead at home. The goal this year is top three. By 2019, we want to start winning again.

I would like to see an improvement from last year. For me its not really what position we finish regardless if its first, second, or third

...and how would you qualify that improvement?

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 17, 2017, 07:26:30 AM »

Expected that Bahamas would be ahead at home. The goal this year is top three. By 2019, we want to start winning again.

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Other Sports / Re: Carifta swimming 2017

« on: April 06, 2017, 08:46:31 AM »

As head of the technical committees for all sports we are tasked with the following objectives:

• To regain regional prominence in swimming/create more sustained swimming pathways for our potential world class athletes
  
  To grow the sport of water polo beyond its current demographic, and to get our senior team to an Olympic Games by 2028
  
  To grow the sport of Open Water swimming and put on more events during the year
  
  To begin the sports of diving and synchronised swimming and get national representation at regional level within two years.
  

Carifta is our first test.

Regards.