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Build that rail.
« on: January 05, 2006, 07:29:54 AM »
Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
By Charleen Thomas (Newsday).


Government is expected to award a contract for the proposed multi-billion dollar mass transit rail system by September this year, as it moves to deal with the traffic congestion along the East/West and North/South corridors.
The initial phase of the project is expected to take between five to six years.
In yesterday’s daily newspapers, the Government placed an advertisement inviting letters of interest (LOI) to design, build, operate and maintain (DBOM) the system, which is now being called "the rapid rail project."
Newsday understands the advertisements will be placed worldwide, as Government seeks to get a DBOM contractor who is "committed to quality; has experience in the planning, design, construction, operation and maintenance of rail transit systems and who will bring innovative design and building approaches to ensure timely completion."
The advertisement advised proposers, that is, firms, consortiums and joint ventures, that their LOIs should be submitted no later than 1 pm on Carnival Tuesday, February 28, 2006. It also stressed that late submissions of the LOIs will "not be considered under any circumstances."
The advertisement noted that the traffic congestion along the corridors "is an ongoing and ever increasing problem."
Only those proposers sending LOIs by the deadline date will receive qualification forms and instructions, as Government intends to "select one DBOM contractor for the entire project."
The LOIs are to be sent to the US offices of Parsons Brinckerhoff Quade and Douglas, the Indian consulting firm which got the $25 million contract to undertake the National Transportation Study.
Government anticipates that by March 31 this year, the qualification forms and instructions will be issued and responses evaluated to select the potential DBOM contractor.
It noted that the selection process will evaluate the proven experience on similar DBOM contracts, as well as the approach of the DBOM contractor to manage, plan, design, construct, operate, maintain and control the project, delivering a quality product at a reasonable price.
The actual price of the project will be negotiated after selection.
The selected contractor may also have to provide some interim solutions to relieve the current traffic congestion.
A contract is expected to be awarded by the fall of 2006, with an expected design and construction of the initial phase expected to take between five and six years to complete.
This phase will consist of one or more of the segments — Sangre Grande to Arima; Arima to Port-of-Spain; Port-of-Spain to Diego Martin; Port-of-Spain to Chaguanas and Chaguanas to San Fernando as determined by Government and the selected contractor.
The project will be implemented through the National Infrastructure Development Company (NIDCO).
In the Budget debate in October last year, Works and Transport Minister Colm Imbert announced that foreign experts would have arrived in Trinidad and Tobago in November last year to advise on the system.
He pointed out back then that the system was absolutely necessary because this country was over the internationally accepted standard for traffic density.
According to the minister, studies revealed that once traffic density crossed 10,000 persons, a rail-based mass transit system was vital. He said the current traffic density along the Eastern Main Road exceeded 15,000 persons.
In April 2004, Prime Minister Patrick Manning indicated the Government’s confidence of the feasibility of the rail system, saying that the system should be in place and operational by 2010.
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2006, 07:46:36 AM »
I seeing this as another blasted inquiry. It seems lately that we cyah build anything without haveing an investigation for corruption.

This go take some of dem maxis off d road and ease up a lil with the people who travelling to and from town. The problem still remains of of too many cars and too small roads. Men who driving ent go give dat up dey ride so.

Fix d highway first. Where else in d world it have traffic lights on major highways?

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2006, 12:19:28 PM »
I seeing this as another blasted inquiry. It seems lately that we cyah build anything without haveing an investigation for corruption.

This go take some of dem maxis off d road and ease up a lil with the people who travelling to and from town. The problem still remains of of too many cars and too small roads. Men who driving ent go give dat up dey ride so.

Fix d highway first. Where else in d world it have traffic lights on major highways?

i doh mind they trying to deal with the traffic situation. that is always a good thing.
but ent we had a rail system back in the day? so why rip it up at build it back now? and what about the plans they had for that ferry that was supposed to work from the east to POS...where that plan gone? i think we need to get some people that thinking straight to make plans for us and actually put them into action! otherwise we will be the country that had the most plans...brilliant plans and that is all that we had!
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2006, 01:55:25 PM »
i like it. it doh matter if they tief some money like the airport, it does make meh feel proud every time ah land in meh country. build ah subway nah :beermug:

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 03:03:51 PM »
Is something to be proud of, no doubt but use some of dat money to fix what we have now nah. We need some flyovers in d highways to remove dem traffic lights, also put in some weighing stations and a heavy T lane for d trucks. If 2 trucks heading down d highway den is traffic back up behind dem.

I have family in construction and transport, dey have govt contracts and talking to dem it seems that most of the damage to the reoads comes from overloaded trucks. Weighing stations could help curb this and make sure dem men who running transport up to code.

Dem lil things help as well.

Anyways, what is the proposed line for the rail? East-West corridor and North- South?

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2006, 12:54:03 PM »
East to POS, POS - Diego, NOrth South ah think
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2006, 11:32:03 AM »
they cant even take care of a bus..yuh expect them to look after a rail-car..ah could done see the vandalizing taking place..it going to give some of them people who is watch the shit on tv to do the 'american' thing..steups.
what they have to do is get rid of all them traffic lights,build the interchange for the Gran Bazzaar area,make the Bus Route legal  for everybody,make South Quay a lot wider down by the lighthouse to get rid of that major bottleneck,widen Wrightson road all the way down to mucurapo..and if they want to make the Port bigger and expand..let them reclaim more flecking land.
i sure it have many people who have much better ideas than me anyway...we people is just have our head up our ass..and dont want to learn anything or see what things are implemented in other places.
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2006, 06:19:44 AM »
they cant even take care of a bus..yuh expect them to look after a rail-car..ah could done see the vandalizing taking place..it going to give some of them people who is watch the shit on tv to do the 'american' thing..steups.
what they have to do is get rid of all them traffic lights,build the interchange for the Gran Bazzaar area,make the Bus Route legal for everybody,make South Quay a lot wider down by the lighthouse to get rid of that major bottleneck,widen Wrightson road all the way down to mucurapo..and if they want to make the Port bigger and expand..let them reclaim more flecking land.
i sure it have many people who have much better ideas than me anyway...we people is just have our head up our ass..and dont want to learn anything or see what things are implemented in other places.

Actually the PTSC system has improved...

I actually excited to se how this new rail system might pan out... They might also want to introduce car pooling laws in the interim, or in conjunction with the rail system.!
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2006, 03:40:16 PM »
they cant even take care of a bus..yuh expect them to look after a rail-car..ah could done see the vandalizing taking place..it going to give some of them people who is watch the shit on tv to do the 'american' thing..steups.
what they have to do is get rid of all them traffic lights,build the interchange for the Gran Bazzaar area,make the Bus Route legal for everybody,make South Quay a lot wider down by the lighthouse to get rid of that major bottleneck,widen Wrightson road all the way down to mucurapo..and if they want to make the Port bigger and expand..let them reclaim more flecking land.
i sure it have many people who have much better ideas than me anyway...we people is just have our head up our ass..and dont want to learn anything or see what things are implemented in other places.

Actually the PTSC system has improved...

I actually excited to se how this new rail system might pan out... They might also want to introduce car pooling laws in the interim, or in conjunction with the rail system.!

Car pool lanes would be nice but they need to put another lane on d highway for dat. Here in FL and I guess most places it have a dedicated HOV (high occupancy vehicle) lane on d I-95 that at certain hours yuh need to have at least 2 people in d car to drive on. Doh play yuh pulling a solo drive in dey on a morning or evening or yuh getting pull over.

Ah hope whatever they plan out they really maintain. Not like d vehicle inspection stations and stickers which i see nobody does take on now. Dats too bad, plenty ole car woulda get pull of d roads if they would only enforce dat. They also need to start looking into who giving out d stickers, ah know real men who pay for theirs without taking in their cars.

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2006, 05:31:12 PM »

Trinidad Express
Wednesday, August 30th 2006

APETT cautions on the proposed Rapid Rail Project


The Association of Professional Engineers of Trinidad and Tobago (APETT) has expressed its concerns regarding the Government's proposed Trinidad Rapid Rail Project. The following is the first in a two part series prepared by the group.






APETT is extremely concerned about the Government of Trinidad and Tobago's approach to the planning and implementation of the proposed Trinidad Rapid Rail Project, (TRRP) scheduled to start by the end of the year. Our main concern is that the Government is about to commit taxpayers to an expenditure of tens of billions of dollars without doing the necessary analysis to determine if this is the best and most cost-effective way of achieving the stated goals.

At a recent breakfast forum hosted by APETT, presenters and participants alike raised several questions about the project. Unfortunately, no representative of the consultants, Parsons Brinckerhoff, or the Ministry of Works and Transport accepted the invitation to attend. The questions have therefore remained unanswered.

The Institute of Transportation Engineers (ITE) in its internationally recognised and used best practice guide: Transportation Planning Handbook, 2nd. Ed. p. 422 states: -

"The MIS (Major Investment Study) is reserved for situations where it is clear that a large investment is required and offers a rigorous method to evaluate the trade-offs, for example, between additional expressway lanes, HOV(High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes or fixed guideway rail transit. Just as the public and stakeholder groups were involved in the development of the plan, this same requirement exists on a more focused basis for the MIS."

The key element in these studies is that the planners should recognise the importance of having an open process that broadly examines corridor solutions without preconceived biases.

It is instructive to note that the Vision 2020 sub-committee on Infrastructure, comprising professionals, technocrats and managers from both the public and private sectors reviewed the state of the transportation sector and the Government's plans for land transportation improvements. The sub-committee recognised that the Government was in the process of developing a National Physical Development Plan (NPDP) that would inform land-use planning and control over the medium to long term and that a Comprehensive National Transportation Study (CNTS) for Trinidad and Tobago would be prepared by 2007. As such, the sub-committee felt that detailed project identification in the medium to long term was not practical at this time. In other words, a project such as the proposed TRRP should be considered only after the NPDP and CNTS. To date, neither of these studies has been completed nor even their preliminary findings made subject to public scrutiny. Yet, the Government is inviting tenders for Phase 1 TRRP. This is a clear case of putting the cart before the horse.

The only justification that we have heard for this undue haste is that the traffic situation is critical and requires immediate action. While the situation is indeed critical, unless we understand how it came to be, we cannot be sure that the massive expenditure estimated at over $20 billion in capital works and an annual expenditure of $3 billion will truly solve the problem. Furthermore, when faced with a critical problem, the first requirement is proper planning. The second is proper management of existing resources. In the case of the TRRP there is a marked absence of both of these ingredients. Contrary to uninformed popular thinking, the country does not suffer from too much planning and analysis. What it is suffering from is too little implementation of what is planned on the one hand, and too much unplanned implementation on the other.

A review of the history of development of the land transportation sector over the last 40 years since the National Transportations Plan of 1967 would reveal why we are in the position of gridlock today. Firstly, the NTP of 1967 did not deal adequately with the role of public transportation nor did it detail plans for meaningful growth of the sector. Furthermore, many of the proposed highway developments were not implemented. Indeed many of the projects currently being undertaken were first identified as necessary during that plan. The main reason given for this failure to implement was a lack of funding. Subsequently, the East-West Corridor study of 1973-74 by Lea-Trintoplan examined the passenger movement requirements of the corridor and recommended the Priority Bus Route (PBR) as an exclusive HOV roadway as well as major highway improvements, including the Southern Link Freeway.

It also reiterated the need for urban highways identified in 1967. These recommendations were only partially implemented - again, through lack of funding. Moreover, the PBR, was never fully developed as a HOV roadway, the Public Transport Service Corporation (PTSC) was never fully equipped to maximise its usage, and the maxi-taxi industry was never properly planned, organised and managed to provide optimal service at minimal tax-payer expense. Interestingly, a Light Rail alternative to the PBR was considered during the planning stage, but after evaluation, it was not identified as the preferred option. Since then, the Government's policies ranging from the subsidisation of gasoline to the ease with which foreign-used cars can be imported into the country, have moved the car ownership rates to almost one car per every three persons.

For a project of this magnitude and significance, a pre-feasibility study ought to have been done long before developers were asked to tender. APETT's investigations have not unearthed any such study. In the absence of transparent and readily-available information on the analysis which is driving the fast-tracking of the TRRP ahead of the completion of the CNTS, we are left to examine the proposed 129km system based on the scant information given by the consultant, Parsons Brinckerhoff, in its informational meeting with potential bidders on March 14 2006 and using international empirical data as a benchmark.

Our preliminary estimate is that the

system would have a capital cost in the vicinity of TT$20 billion with an annual operating and maintenance cost of about $3 billion per year. Most likely, this would be heavily subsidised by the Government. This massive commitment dwarfs the 2005 capital subsidy to the PTSC of TT$45 million with an annual recurrent support of $80 million.

Additionally, the current institutional arrangements are too weak to support the proper management and administration of the public transportation sector. There is no agency currently responsible for the planning and administration of the public transport sector. Even within the Ministry of Works, there is no department or section with the necessary staff and mandate to carry out those functions. Furthermore, the Government does not have the capability for the ongoing analysis of the demand for public transport services and the quality of service being supplied to the public, by region or otherwise disaggregated.

Consequently, the Government is unable to assess the most cost-effective interventions that would create the greatest benefit. Into this milieu, the Government now proposes to spend $20 billion and a further $3 billion per year on a rail system, ostensibly without even the benefit of a pre-feasibility study.

For further information please contact Mark François, President APETT, 623-0789 or

680-3825.

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 06:12:29 PM »
i not a civil eng, but i feel that heat go mash up dem lines and make it real hard to maintain.....lawd ah agree with feliz again  ::)
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2006, 06:56:15 PM »
I seeing this as another blasted inquiry. It seems lately that we cyah build anything without haveing an investigation for corruption.

This go take some of dem maxis off d road and ease up a lil with the people who travelling to and from town. The problem still remains of of too many cars and too small roads. Men who driving ent go give dat up dey ride so.

Fix d highway first. Where else in d world it have traffic lights on major highways?

i doh mind they trying to deal with the traffic situation. that is always a good thing.
but ent we had a rail system back in the day? so why rip it up at build it back now? and what about the plans they had for that ferry that was supposed to work from the east to POS...where that plan gone? i think we need to get some people that thinking straight to make plans for us and actually put them into action! otherwise we will be the country that had the most plans...brilliant plans and that is all that we had!


from east to POS  ??? wey dah ferry passing up de dry river oh wha  ??? ???
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 07:04:24 PM »
well some system need to eb in place to ease conngestion and a railsystem seems the best. it seems t be th emost feasible. not a subway in an island ... dais problems one time as de watertable will be high. any ways... nince trinidad had a rail system before maybe alot of the railsl coudl run on or  close to the old routes.
my only thing is ..is dat de government go for expensive and fancy isntead of preactical.a.nd one sutied to our climate. though it will ahve less stress than one iin a temperate climate.
 an efficent monorail or somehtign could work fine.. we dont need any high speed thing..trini small.
pos/diego to arima
and one that connecting somewhere along that route to sando. passing though chag. that is the majority of population and the most congested routes. as usual government eh taking advice of local profesinals..lor donly knwos y >>>$$$$$$$$$$$. i wonder who gettign thye cut this time
any ways. it is needed.
cause the stat is 2  cars per household..actually its 2 per person..but if u take into consideration who actually drive because of age and income etc..it works out to 2 perperson ..pure madness. u tell me....unless ppl wanan take boat to sando..lol.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2006, 08:49:04 PM »
There is a significant portion of this article that deserves some attention. It deals with the lack of an administrative framework to manage and maintain such a system. There seems to be an absence of a cleaHuman Resource Strategy for the PTSC in the long term. I saw Ministers Narine, Sahadeo and Imbert on the news tonight insisting in order to provide services and attract foreign investment, infrastural development is necessary. Thats all well and good but you can't just construct buildings and other massive projects without plans and without developing the strategic capability to ensure that resources are used effectively. Its the sort of rationale that Jack and previous government had in constructing stadia but engineering no plan for their use or maintenance.That was just over $100m but this project is going to involve 10s of billions of $. If we don't approach this with resposible scrutiny we could have major promblem on our hands. I applaud the APETT for raising its concerns.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2006, 08:55:47 PM »
such a high tec thing....ah wonder how much the toll will be to ride from POS to sando and back.
you think trinis go pay $200/ride?  ($15 US 1 way) the ones who could afford it eh go be using it......thats probably what it will cost to run AT LEAST
can you say big government subsidy
better off with the old box car yes
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2006, 09:07:51 PM »
this is just another recipe for more bobol, corruption and inquiry.
we ent need no high speed rail in T&T..country so damn small already.
and as Ricky say, the government will have to heavily subsidize that rail service.
i think we bout 30 years too late in trying to finally use some of we 'oil' money to try and develop the country and put down infrastrucutre for foreign investments.
remember oil and gas going and run out in few years time too.

another thing..ah hope we ent getting ah foreign used rail system if we do get it lol
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2006, 10:10:38 PM »
another thing..ah hope we ent getting ah foreign used rail system if we do get it lol

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man yuh kill meh with dat one   ;D

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2006, 10:21:11 PM »
Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
By Charleen Thomas (Newsday).


A contract is expected to be awarded by the fall of 2006, with an expected design and construction of the initial phase expected to take between five and six years to complete.
??? ??? ???

i want to know how long it taking to get from arima to pos and how many stops in between.......i guessing arouca, tunapuna, curepe, san juan
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2006, 10:27:03 PM »
this whole thing remind me of the Simpsons episode where dey built that monorail for Springfield....any of you remember that?   :rotfl: :rotfl:

As the camera pulls away from the scene, Marge's voice narrates:
 ``And that was the only folly the people of Springfield ever embarked
 upon.  Except for the popsicle stick skyscraper.  And the 50-foot
 magnifying glass.  And that escalator to nowhere.''



http://www.snpp.com/episodes/9F10.html
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2006, 12:12:23 AM »


 Ah like it , de bandit an dem going tuh reach home faster.  :devil: :devil:
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2006, 04:52:41 AM »
Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
By Charleen Thomas (Newsday).


A contract is expected to be awarded by the fall of 2006, with an expected design and construction of the initial phase expected to take between five and six years to complete.
??? ??? ???

i want to know how long it taking to get from arima to pos and how many stops in between.......i guessing arouca, tunapuna, curepe, san juan
i think they will have to stop at every little town on the east-west corridor.
all those villages are basically linear settlements, which means runing alongside a roadway.
but i think it mihgt have a train running eveyr 10 minutes, then again is Trinidad, how efficient and on schedule that train go be  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2006, 10:54:28 AM »
dat is only mouth talk...PNM aint building nothin innah dat country but cemeteries.. and taking away we football fields and expanding there houses...
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2006, 10:11:36 AM »
note: this was written in July....since then it seems the consultant is including BRT in its study. More on that later

Trindad & Tobago Newsday
Thursday, July 13 2006
Vooosh
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Rae Furlonge


...there goes Chaguanas

Construction of the Interchange is once again on the cards, and additional lanes are being planned for the Uriah Butler Highway (UBH). The Comprehensive National Transport Study (CNTS), currently being undertaken by Parsons Brinckerhoff (PB) on behalf of the Government, has unbelievably excluded the urban centres from its scope of work, and focusses only on improving highway travel.

For example, traffic and transport planning for the cities of POS, San Fernando, and the rapidly growing Borough of Chaguanas is not being catered for in the CNTS.

So what would happen after motorists fly over the west-to-south third-level ramp of the Interchange and speed down three lanes of highway and reach Chaguanas? How will this additional traffic get through the Borough? Everyone who is accustomed to travelling on the roads in Chaguanas knows that a journey that would normally take five minutes on a Sunday afternoon, can take one hour on a weekday. Improvement in highway capacity in the absence of appropriate urban centre transport solutions will exacerbate an already horrendous traffic situation.

Traffic congestion in urban Chaguanas is a result of the intensity and types of usage by vehicular and pedestrian traffic on roads that were never built to accommodate such uses. The explosive increase in urban population and commercial activity in the fastest growing town in Trinidad and Tobago is reacting to zero improvement in the traffic-carrying ability of the roads and streets of the Borough, and frustration levels are simmering. Implementation of a comprehensive traffic and transport plan is long overdue.

Chaguanas has been subjected to several piecemeal, ad hoc traffic management schemes, usually led by the Police or the Chaguanas Borough Corpora-tion without the input of sound engineering and planning analyses. There appears to be a lack of appreciation by both public and private sector bodies for the difference between the processes of traffic management and transport planning.

Transport planning is divided into two types: long-term, comprehensive, or strategic transport planning, and short- to medium-term transport planning. The aim of comprehensive transport planning is usually to provide investment planning for the next 20 years to facilitate the mobility and accessibility of people and goods and support the broader economic, social, and environmental objectives of the country.

Short- to medium-term transport planning (say two to five years) is concerned with obtaining maximum capacity or optimal operation from existing transport system facilities. This process is also known as transport systems management (TSM), which is a continuing, monitoring and adjustment of the working of the transport system by means of relatively low-cost techniques. Traffic management is a part of TSM, and focusses on adapting the use of the existing road network to improve the movement of people and goods in a safe and efficient manner without resorting to major new construction, and typically involves the following applications: intersection improvements; turn prohibitions; one-way streets; traffic signs and markings; geometric design; road widening; access control and management; parking management; auto-restricted zones.



In other words, traffic management only concentrates on measures to alleviate the symptoms of transportation problems and not root causes, and seeks solutions in the short term. Put another way: land use activity minus transport planning equals continuous traffic management problems. This means continuing to emphasize managing traffic only rather than managing transportation.

Chaguanas, like many other urban areas, has long outgrown these occasional traffic management schemes.

There is an urgent need for specially designated stopping bays must be painted along the following routes: Chaguanas Main Road; Southern Main Road; Rudranath Capildeo Street; Endeavour Road; John Street; and, De Verteuil Street.



There is a proliferation of PH taxis in Chaguanas not seen anywhere else in the country. They provide service at just about anytime of the day or night to particularly the out-of-the-way areas such Caparo, Tabaquite, round-d-road (meaning around Greater Chaguanas, such as Enterprise, Cunupia, etc). They are there when the maxis and taxis go home, such as when heavy rain falls and there is flooding and heavy traffic congestion, and especially on a Friday evening when there is no legal public transport vehicles available. Clearly there is a huge need for the planning, management and location of public transport service and facilities in Chaguanas.

To be continued next week.


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Trinidad Express
Wednesday, October 4th 2006
Have money, spend money
Government throws dollars, not sense, at traffic woes

By Raffique Shah




Colm Imbert

COME what may, Government will proceed with the proposed Rapid Rail System (RRS).

Works and Transport Minister Colm Imbert said so in response that suggestions that Cabinet was proceeding with the RRS without the benefit of a proper feasibility study. The Minister said government's decision was based on a study done by the Indian consulting firm, RITES Ltd.

APETT, commenting on that study, charged: "That document .should not be considered as a feasibility or even a pre-feasibility report, but rather as a Concept Paper." In addition to APETT's concerns over Government's decision to proceed with the project, estimated to cost US$2.5 billion, studies by transportation experts elsewhere in the world show that rail remains a prohibitively expensive mass transit option, and that many countries and cities that opted for that mode would reverse their decisions if they had to do it again.

The main aim of any mass transit system is to be able to efficiently move as many commuters as possible to and from their destinations in the shortest possible time, and in relative comfort. There is little doubt that rail, especially where established many years ago, has met this criteria. But in today's world of modern technology, except for very long-distance travel, rail is proving to be almost an anachronism. Transport Statistics (Great Britain) data show that:

- In highway terms, rail rapid transport systems are so lightly loaded as to be substantially disused. The average flow per track has a range equivalent to 92 to 525 buses per day, each bus containing 20 people. That may be compared with a potential of up to 10,000 vehicles per day for a single lane of motor road managed to avoid congestion. The comparison suggests a catastrophic under use of valuable transport land.




- In all cases the annual cost of capital plus estimated maintenance exceeds the fare receipts by a factor of greater than two.

The authors of that study also said: "Data from 1990 (on comparative fuel consumption) provided the equivalent of 51 passenger miles per gallon for Tyne and Wear and 55 for Strath Clyde (two rail systems). In comparison, buses would return 75 to 125 passenger miles per gallon. We conclude that, with the benefit of hindsight and of this data, none of these (rail) systems would have been built. An alternative may have been bus-ways open to commercial vehicles and to cars at certain times of the day. The modern option may be to control congestion by road pricing."

The T&T Government has opted for the rail alternative (working in conjunction with bus, maxi-taxi and water-taxi support) in the belief that an efficient RRS will encourage many persons to leave their private vehicles at home and use trains. Government has indicated it will enhance the PTSC bus fleet and is considering water-taxis that will connect Port of Spain and San Fernando. It has not projected plans for enhancing and/or policing the maxi-taxi services. Elsewhere in the world, rail attracting motorists has proved to be wishful thinking: if anything, such systems lure more people away from the existing public transport systems (bus, maxi-taxis, taxis and "PH" cars), which defeats the purpose of spending so much money to create an alternative mode of transport.

A main reason for this setback, besides the cultural aspect of "owning one's ride", is that rail does not offer "seamless commuting". In other words, people first need to get from their homes or workplaces to the nearest train stations. Then, having reached stations closest to their destinations, they need to take other means of transport to get to their final destinations. Besides high capital, maintenance and operating costs, this is one of the main weaknesses of the rapid rail system. Dr Rae Furlonge sums up the wooing or motorists to rail this way: "For non-auto transport, like rapid rail to be successful, it must be auto-competitive. This means that it must be widely available and provide a superior level of service. It must be so good that it will be chosen by large numbers of people for a wide variety of trips."

Government has also been advised to seriously consider other options before making a final, irrevocable decision on the RRS. In a response to the RITES report, Drs. Furlonge, Morris and Trevor Townsend said: "They (RITES and PB) should be asked to come up with the best alternative for solving the urban transportation problem. One must understand that a rail system, even if found feasible, may not be the best alternative." Many countries and very large cities are finding that Rapid Bus Transit (RBT), high occupancy vehicles (HOV) and high occupancy toll (HOT) lanes on existing or expanded highways is the way to go. In last week's article the point was made that Government's own transportation consultant, Parsons Brinkerhoff, has described the above alternatives as "the wave of the future". Capital costs in the latter are substantially lower than rail systems, as are their maintenance and operating costs. In America's west coast city of San Diego, that country's first "light rail city" (1981), rail accounts for only 0.2 per cent of work trips (Ted Balaker, Transportation Policy at Reason). "San Diego's first (rail) line was cheap, but subsequent extensions ballooned to five times the cost of the original line," he added.

Balaker argued: "Other aspects of San Diego's transportation policy are worth emulating. Take HOT lanes. On the Interstate 15 freeway, special lanes operate next to regular lanes, and since computers collect tolls electronically, there are no toll booths to slow down drivers. Tolls rise and fall with the rise and fall of traffic, which keeps cars moving at about 60 mph even during rush hour. HOT lanes offer commuters an escape route from congestion, and since cars funnel through them faster, they also relax congestion in the regular lanes. Allow buses to use the lanes without paying the toll and transit users can enjoy the unthinkable-fast and predictable travel times. Today, San Diego plans to build more HOT lanes, and many other areas-from San Francisco to Denver to Washington, DC-are moving toward the HOT concept."

Regarding the prospect of wooing people away from using their private vehicles in favour of public transport, a UCLA study, which projects Los Angeles' population to grow to 10.5 million by 2015, argues that "experience tells us that residents will change their travel behaviour as travel speeds change". The study also makes some of the very points against the expansion of rail made in this series, and in columns by Dr Rae Furlonge (Newsday). It continues: "In LA, as in most of North America, rail is an expensive, ineffective use of scarce resources that would be better used to support more cost-effective means of transportation. This includes expansion of the LA County bus system; improvement in the quality of bus services; reduction in bus fares; support for multi-passenger automobile travel; expansion of the HOV system and bus-ways; and implementation of peak-period pricing strategies, such as HOT lanes."

Besides decentralisation (shifting many government ministries, departments and agencies to towns and districts other than POS and San Fernando), which government has refused to even consider, there are many regulatory measures than can be put in place to curb the number of vehicles on the roads at any given time, and more so during peak traffic hours. Within recent years, vehicle ownership in this country has grown to one-in-three, way higher than world average. In Singapore, which is almost one-tenth our size, but with a population of four million and a per capita GDP of US$24,000 (twice that of Trinidad and Tobago), there is a Vehicle Quota System that limits vehicle growth to three per cent per annum. There are also vehicle use restraints through road and congestion pricing. By enforcing these systems, it was found that peak demand for private vehicle-use is on weekends, evenings and holidays, emphasising the need for private cars for recreational purposes.

The Vehicle Quota bidding system, which allocates a limited supply of vehicle certificates, has shown a notable demand despite high car ownership costs. Licensing a vehicle costs US$10,937.00, almost one-third the vehicle's purchase price. The artificially high fixed cost of ownership in Singapore is a barrier to entry (to certain roads at specific times), not vehicle use. Since 2003 the government has been relaxing the quota system, but at the same time managing travel demand more equitably through road pricing. A main pillar of the latter system is car-sharing, which is also being pursued in Japan. The concept of having multiple users share a fleet of vehicles first emerged in Japan in the late 1990s. By then, such system was already in place in several European countries. And recently, the city of London imposed an almost punitive tax on motorists seeking to access central London in private cars.

Whatever restraints are applied to curb the number of private cars using our roads, the measures must be accompanied by enhancement in the public transport system, including car parks where people may leave their vehicles safely for the day, and shuttle services in main cities and towns. Dr Philbert Morris, in his Softcom report presented to the Ministry of Works, made reference to the poor state of City Gate, and recommendations for its improvement to meet international standards. He also pointed to deficiencies in the maxi-taxi system that must be corrected before many commuters are comfortable with it. The report stated: "In many areas taxi stands are the major cause of congestion, because of both their location and the behaviour of drivers. Roadway space for taxi stands is a scarce resource and must be regulated. Stands need to be policed to enforce queue discipline, and to prevent drivers from playing for hire outside the stand. We need to have a clearly established Authority for Public Transport. The maxi-taxis, the main providers of public transport, do not behave in a disciplined fashion because the structure of the system encourages competition on the road."

To sum up, the realities that face government and commuters, and decisions to deal with them are as follows:

- Too many vehicles on limited roadways have led to traffic jams almost around-the-clock not only in approaches to Port of Spain, but in towns as disparate as Chaguanas, Penal and Rio Claro.

- Except for taxation (on both new and foreign-used vehicles), there are no mechanisms in place to reduce the number of vehicles on the roads. There is no obsolescence programme to remove unserviceable vehicles from the system.

- Government intends to proceed with its approximately 80-mile rapid rail project. The estimated capital cost is currently US$2.5 billion. However, there is an abundance of evidence to show that this will, at the very least, double before the project is completed. Maintenance and operating costs are projected to be around TT$3 billion per year. This cost will be borne by taxpayers virtually in perpetuity.

- While there are plans to create some HOV and HOT lanes on highways, they are few and far between, certainly insufficient to impact on the volume of traffic on the nation's roads.

- With government's decision to rejuvenate Port of Spain, the capital city will continue to attract large numbers of people on a daily basis (for work and conducting business). Entrances to the city remain unchanged, and will hardly change because of space constraint. What these tell us is that whatever new traffic measures government takes, there will be gross bottlenecks at the city's entrances.

- The overpass at the CR/Butler intersection will hardly mitigate traffic woes on those two highways, far less solve them.

- Government's plans for expanding existing highways, and building new ones (Golconda to Point Fortin, San Fernando to Mayaro, Arima to Manzanilla) will improve travel times to these far-flung district. But they will not impact on the traffic congestion in approaches to many city and town-centres.

- Rail and water-taxis may provide faster travel times between Port of Spain and San Fernando. In both cases, though, their success will depend on support facilities (like secure car parks, park-and-ride facilities and pedestrian comfort). Both are costly. In the case of water-taxis, the cost of wharves to accommodate passengers must be factored into the projected cost.

- Government has refused to entertain advice from local experts in traffic management and transport engineering.

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2006, 10:21:35 AM »
anudda set ah money belng spent where it is not needed
give de money to the police, and NOT for no Blimp
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2006, 11:59:15 AM »
DCS and Flex, thanks for posting these articles; living abroad I did not have a clear understanding of the nature of the proposed project as well as the discussions surroundding it. I have a few comments.

While having a rail system seems to fill some with a sense of pride, and on the surface seems like an answer to our chronic transportation problems, I believe that there are several practical hurdles to overcome which, makes this a REALLY BAD IDEA. I am (usually) in favour of mass transportation systems as opposed to (especially what obtains here) congested, single user personal transportation alternatives, but in Trinidad, I believe that we need to look at alternetaive (some of which were mentioned in the articels posted.

I am concerned about things like the impact on the environment as well as social impacts. It is a fact that implementing a large system such as this calls into question issues around land use. Apart from being capital intensive, a project such as this would appear to be land intensive. I am referring (in particular) to the "East West corridor". Will there have to be a significant re-possession/purchase of land along the proposed rail routes to make this viable, and what happens to the communities along the proposed route(s)? Will resettlement have to take place? To where? Take as a practical example, the area around Curepe/St. Augustine, or San Juan. Can anyone anticipate the effort in terms of capital, land use, disruption that would have to be extended? What would be the social, commercial and environmental effects?

Let us also consider the idea of ongoing maintenance. We all should know that we have not been very good at maintaining public works (I cite City Gate as an example). What is the plan for maintenance of plant and infrastructure after the fact? Can we assume a commitment to good maintenence practices after the system has been built? After a new political party with different agendas comes to power? What is the commitment to training so that local staff can effectively maintain and operate the system (IT systems, control systems, traffic integration management systems etc)?

I was pleased at the comments made about the actual economic feasibility of rail systems. I did not see from the Government documentation, any analysis of what amount of ridership it would take to make this system self sustaining. Has this been thought through, or are we to assumee Govt. subsidy of an un-economic enterprise (sounds like the old days of the 70s/80s eh)? Again, if so, what happens when governments change? What is the optimum number of stops that make it viable, providing adequate ridership?

With all of this, though, I remain a proponent of mass transit systems... where applicable...
I believe that (and the authors of one of the articles makes this important point) that this is a rushed deal that is being pushed through without any sort of proper planning, impact assessment studies, feasibility studies etc. It just seems like a good idea to someone and that's what we are running with...
I hope that I am way off base here, and the concerns raised by myself and others have been thought out and addressed, but considering our history of implementing large capital projects..... welllll...
I usually don't have much time for APETT, but their analysis raised some good points, along with Dr. Morris (a very intelligent man).
I would like to think that we are on the right track, and the people who are qualified to provide solution are allowed to do their jobs.

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2006, 12:48:28 PM »
anudda set ah money belng spent where it is not needed
give de money to the police, and NOT for no Blimp
What do you mean where it is not needed? Have you ever had to wait for a maxi on a morning anywhere along the east-west corridor during peak periods? Have you tried to go Chaguanas during non-peak period? Have you been on any one of our major highways, in particular the Churchill-Roosevelt, any time during the day? It is a major issue that needs addressing, whether it is by rapid transit systems, car pooling legislation or removal of traffic lights on the highways.

And for whoever asked the proposed ferry system is from San Fernando to POS. The price is supposed to be the same as what one would pay by maxi if I remember the report correctly. As berris said, unless they using some river we eh know about it cyah work east-west.

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2006, 12:58:54 PM »

I for one am very happy they have given transport this much attention.

But tell me they not moving just like JW....my way or the highway.

This form of leadership is quite intriguing....get things done at all costs and ignore all protestations and effort consuming protocol.
The outcome tends to be that something gets done but not anywhere close to optimal and sometimes far from it.

We crying for things to get done.....is that the only way they know how   :-[

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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2006, 02:19:35 PM »
I'm seeing a lot of comments about drawbacks of the proposed mass transport system.  My take is that something needs to get done, it just has to. Up till 9:30 am you could still see masses of people waiting by the roadways of La Horquetta and Maloney on the east west corridor, lord know how bad it is in places like Chaguanas. Yet we want to cry down the productivity of our citizens, chances are the person able to arrive to work at 8am will probably get more done than someone reaching at 9:30am hence leading to an overall more productive society and country.

I am interested in hearing about alternate viable solutions to this rail system
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Trinidad & Tobago Newsday
Monday 26th December 2005

Got bus?

They are flexible and offer cost advantages over traditional roadway transit
By Rae Furlonge Traffic and Transportation Engineer


This is part six in our series on the transportation system in TT. This week we examine another mode option for public transport: Bus Rapid Transit (BRT). The BRT system is based on the concept of utilising the most popular features of Light Rail Transit (LRT) with the flexibility and cost advantages of traditional roadway transit. It can come in a variety of different forms, from dedicated busways that have their own rights-of-way (including traffic signal preferential treatment and pre-emption at intersections) to bus services that utilise High Occupancy Volume (HOV) lanes, and dedicated highway lanes to limited stop buses on conventional routes. The key argument in favour of BRT systems is that they provide a higher quality of service (similar to LRT systems), but at greatly reduced capital investment in vehicles and right-of-way. Key to this assumption is the utilisation of existing roadways, so that capital costs in these areas are only for the vehicles themselves and additional street furniture required for operation. BRT allows for incremental construction and implementation and can be easily tailored to meet the specific transportation needs and opportunities within individual neighbourhoods and transportation corridors.

Insofar as BRT can utilise dedicated rights-of-way it offers advantages over regular bus service, including service frequency, increased capacity, and speed. Fares are collected upon entering an enclosed bus station or shelter area prior to bus arrivals (similar to how fares are collected at a kiosk before entering a subway system). This speeds up the trip for everyone. This system would allow passengers to board through all doors of a stopped bus. Many BRT systems also use low floor buses or high level platforms with high floor buses to speed up passenger boarding and enhance accessibility. BRT systems can operate at speeds nearly twice as fast as conventional buses and roughly equivalent to light rail, getting people quickly to their destination.

FLEXBILITY
A major advantage of BRT (and bus transit in general) is its flexibility in meeting changes in the shape of urban development and in changes in demand in terms of both quantity and quality. If necessary, existing bus routes can be modified almost overnight at virtually no cost. Expanded or new services can be introduced quickly and at relatively low initial cost. And all types of bus transit may be provided by the private sector, and so the financial burden on the state may be reduced. Another advantage is that since buses using busways or bus lanes can disperse to several terminals in urban areas, very high concentrations of passengers in buses can be minimised. Similarly, outbound buses are able to go out into suburban areas after leaving busways or bus lanes. In other words, passengers can be taken close to their destinations at both ends of these high-capacity facilities.                                                   

RIGHT OF WAY?
Opponents of bus rapid transit initiatives argue that BRT is not an effective replacement for light rail or subway services. They argue that in order for BRT to have greatest effect, it must have its own right-of-way; and BRT operating in mixed traffic is subject to the same congestion and delays as do ordinary buses. Furthermore, signal priority systems might cause severe disruptions to traffic flow on major cross streets. They argue that this merely redistributes, rather than reduces, the traffic congestion problems that BRT systems are designed to alleviate. BRT also suffers form a serious image problem. In many places, particularly in the United States, buses of any kind are far from attractive to middle-and upper-class riders than light rail and subway systems, suffering from resulting low ridership among segments of the population that prefer travel by automobile to using any sort of public transportation whatsoever.

While many BRT systems utilise state-of-the-art buses, BRT opponents insist that "a bus is still a bus."  The city of Curitiba in Brazil is held as a paragon of urban planning excellence. In 2001 it had a population of 1.6 million people. The city has implemented a map plan which provides strict control on urban sprawl, a reduction to traffic in the downtown area preservation of Curitiba's historic sector, and a convenient and affordable public transit system. The city has a notably efficient transportation system, including devotion of lanes on major streets for a BRT system. In 1992, they introduced bi-articulated buses which are long, split into three sections (two accordion-type joints instead of one as in the cases of one articulated bus), each unit is 25m  in length and is capable of carrying up to 270 passengers.

Their goal was to shelve plans for LRT through the bi-articulated concept, because the 21 km LRT system would cost US$400 million to build and would take at least two years to be completed. The bi-articulated project cost US$40 million and was operating in six months. The units are run by private companies, so that the largest part of the total investment was financed by the private sector. On reserved busways passenger volumes of 15-13,000 passengers per hour per lane for standard buses and 20-30,000 passengers per hour per lane for larger buses can be expected. The construction of exclusive busways in combination with at-grade intersections may cost between US$ two to seven million per kilometre. Next week, we examine ferryboats and their potential for intra-island travel.

 

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