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Revised format for CFU youth cup.
« on: August 20, 2006, 05:09:37 AM »
Revised format for youth cup.
Top 4 CFU teams to contest for 2 spots.
By: Shaun Fuentes.
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Trinidad and Tobago’s Under 16 footballers will have some further matches to play on their way through to the CONCACAF Final qualifying round in the Journey to the 2007 FIFA Under 17 World Championship in Korea.
After initially being carded to go through to the quarter finals of the ongoing Under 16 Youth Cup where they would have faced the best second placed team Suriname, T&T will now contest a four-team group comprising of the remaining four Caribbean teams (with the exception of Jamaica) to battle for two places in the CONCACAF Final Round.
Caribbean Football Union President Jack Warner explained late on Saturday that based on the advice of Senior Vice President, Lisle Austin, and with the approval of the Emergency Committee of the Caribbean Football Union, it was agreed that there be a revision of the competition format of the Caribbean Youth Cup for the determination of the two Caribbean teams which shall qualify for the CONCACAF final qulifying round for the FIFA World U 17 Championship.
Since there are 5 Caribbean teams remaining in the competition - Jamaica, Barbados, Haiti, Trinidad & Tobago and best 2nd placed Suriname - the 4 Caribbean teams (excluding Jamaica ) will be placed in one Group - Group A - and participate in a Group League play off. From that play off, the first and second placed teams will subsequently qualify for the CONCACAF final round of the competition. Jamaica, being the host of one leg of that competition, will be placed in a Group with the other three non Caribbean Group winners - Canada, Panama and Mexico and this shall form Group B and will be played in a similar format as Group A.
The first placed teams of Group A and B will play for the Caribbean Youth Championship while the second placed teams of each Group will play for the 3rd and 4th places.

The new schedule:

Group A - Barbados, Haiti, Surinam, Trinidad & Tobago

Group B - Canada, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama

The Match Schedule is as follows:[/b]

Monday, August 21st - Mannie Ramjohn Stadium - Marabella

Haiti vs Surinam - 3:00pm

Trinidad & Tobago vs Barbados - 5:00pm

Dwight Yorke Stadium, Tobago

Panama vs Mexico - 3:00pm

Canada vs Jamaica - 5:00pm

Wednesday, August 23rd - Ato Boldon Stadium - Couva

Barbados vs Haiti - 3:00pm

Surinam vs Trinidad & Tobago - 5:00pm

Dwight Yorke Stadium - Tobago

Jamaica vs Panama - 3:00pm

Mexico vs Canada - 5:00pm

Friday, August, 25th - Larry Gomes Stadium - Arima

Surinam vs Barbados - 3:00pm

Trinidad & Tobago vs Haiti - 5:00pm

Dwight Yorke Stadium - Tobago

Canada vs Panama - 3:00pm

Mexico vs Jamaica - 5:00pm

Sunday, August, 27th

Loser Group A vs Loser Group B - 3rd and 4th placed winners

Winner Group A vs Winner Group B - CYC Champion and Runner Up
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2006, 06:02:02 AM »
whey sah, ah didnt know we fraid canada so much!! lol

anyways, i happy with the new format!!

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2006, 06:15:11 AM »
talk about vai qui vai planning....

so they didn't figure it coulda happen so from the start? Everybody know that Jamaica was basically playing for pride already...
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2006, 06:38:27 AM »
talk about vai qui vai planning....

so they didn't figure it coulda happen so from the start? Everybody know that Jamaica was basically playing for pride already...

Yuh talking about men who does think with edge of the toe nail.

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2006, 07:35:25 AM »
That was very smart,by the way who r the teams in the CONCACAF final round of qualifying
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2006, 07:37:52 AM »
ah vex ah wouldnt be in bago this week 2 see canada mash up some teams.  steups real football ah missing they boy :'( :'(
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2006, 07:42:33 AM »
The first placed teams of Group A and B will play for the Caribbean Youth Championship while the second placed teams of each Group will play for the 3rd and 4th places

This is good for jamaica becuase they are getting to see where they are and what they need to work on.

I dont like this format at all just another easy way warner trying for us to get into the finals why cant the first place team in a play the second place in B ?.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2006, 08:27:17 AM »

The first placed teams of Group A and B will play for the Caribbean Youth Championship while the second placed teams of each Group will play for the 3rd and 4th places

This is good for jamaica becuase they are getting to see where they are and what they need to work on.

I dont like this format at all just another easy way warner trying for us to get into the finals why cant the first place team in a play the second place in B ?. i think they make thier way to the final this is rubbish let them play mexico next...

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2006, 08:32:34 AM »
What eva andre why cant they earn thier way!! under the old format we  play mexico if we  lorse yuh lorse we take it from dey steeps
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2006, 08:50:43 AM »
What eva andre why cant they earn thier way!! under the old format we  play mexico if we  lorse yuh lorse we take it from dey steeps

Well in that case, why didnt you argue for us to play uruguay instead of bahrain in the play off for the world cup.

Before yuh be grate-full and be happy that Jack Warner is here to make decisions like that, yuh want to complain.

What if Mexico (a guest team) knock us out and barbados play Haiti in another quarter final and they go through to the final round...would you be happy?

with this new format, it ensures that the best 2 caribbean teams go forward into the next round (which is the purpose of this competition in the first place!!)

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Re: Revised format for CFU youth cup.
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2006, 08:58:15 AM »

with this new format, it ensures that the best 2 caribbean teams go forward into the next round (which is the purpose of this competition in the first place!!)



I think Andre hit the nail on the head, this is a caribbean competition and even though our invited teams may have a better program running with stronger teams a knockout stage may not be the best thing for any of the players at this point, especially when this tournament doesnt really qualify us for any world tournament (i not sure) I glad that we getting to play at least three more games to give our players more exposure against better teams.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2006, 09:19:28 AM »

with this new format, it ensures that the best 2 caribbean teams go forward into the next round (which is the purpose of this competition in the first place!!)



I think Andre hit the nail on the head, this is a caribbean competition and even though our invited teams may have a better program running with stronger teams a knockout stage may not be the best thing for any of the players at this point, especially when this tournament doesnt really qualify us for any world tournament (i not sure) I glad that we getting to play at least three more games to give our players more exposure against better teams.

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The 2006 CFU Youth Cup will also double as the Caribbean Preliminary Qualification to the CONCACAF Under-17 Final Round with the group games due to take place in April 2007.

In other words, this is the preliminary round for the qualifying for the FIFA Under 17 World Cup...
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2006, 09:28:54 AM »
I aint care what people say, jack warner is a genius, look how he pull that off.. that is a boss move he do there, shows how much pull he have in fifa, we almost guaranteed tuh make final against mexico... :beermug:


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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2006, 09:32:45 AM »
What eva andre why cant they earn thier way!! under the old format we  play mexico if we  lorse yuh lorse we take it from dey steeps

Well in that case, why didnt you argue for us to play uruguay instead of bahrain in the play off for the world cup.

Before yuh be grate-full and be happy that Jack Warner is here to make decisions like that, yuh want to complain.

What if Mexico (a guest team) knock us out and barbados play Haiti in another quarter final and they go through to the final round...would you be happy?

with this new format, it ensures that the best 2 caribbean teams go forward into the next round (which is the purpose of this competition in the first place!!)

ah love it!!

There are  tough match  and easy match-ups  in knock out stages   sometimes ent!!  suppose england had play Germany? . I stand by what i say if you want the best two caribbean teams to go through dont invite any guest teams then keep it in the CFU.

If we had to play uruguay to qualify well we play uruguay if we had to play a team from africa ,europe or asia to get into the WC then so be it...
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2006, 09:34:38 AM »
I aint care what people say, jack warner is a genius, look how he pull that off.. that is a boss move he do there, shows how much pull he have in fifa, we almost guaranteed tuh make final against mexico... :beermug:



Easy thing eh yuh like that eh
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2006, 09:34:52 AM »
triniman yuh shouldnt be so vex boss, whappen  :rotfl:

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2006, 09:38:31 AM »
I aint care what people say, jack warner is a genius, look how he pull that off.. that is a boss move he do there, shows how much pull he have in fifa, we almost guaranteed tuh make final against mexico... :beermug:



Easy thing eh yuh like that eh

not really bredda, i would have preferred they put us in the hard group so we can show how good we are, instead of jamaica getting so much good practise games, but say wha, we will face the bess team from that group in the final and that will measure how good we are also, this gives our team more time tuh gel and play, so there is a upside but the downside is we could have played in the other group and our team would have benefitted immensely from this, i see your point, i dont want de easy raod for them, i want dem to fight and play for what they get, but is JW yuh dealing with, he will try tuh keep tt at heart when he twisting and turning....

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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2006, 09:40:30 AM »
I aint care what people say, jack warner is a genius, look how he pull that off.. that is a boss move he do there, shows how much pull he have in fifa, we almost guaranteed tuh make final against mexico... :beermug:



We will have to play 3 games to get to the final, 1 of which is against Haiti. This is by no means easy.

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2006, 09:44:33 AM »
I aint care what people say, jack warner is a genius, look how he pull that off.. that is a boss move he do there, shows how much pull he have in fifa, we almost guaranteed tuh make final against mexico... :beermug:



Easy thing eh yuh like that eh



not really bredda, i would have preferred they put us in the hard group so we can show how good we are, instead of jamaica getting so much good practise games, but say wha, we will face the bess team from that group in the final and that will measure how good we are also, this gives our team more time tuh gel and play, so there is a upside but the downside is we could have played in the other group and our team would have benefitted immensely from this, i see your point, i dont want de easy raod for them, i want dem to fight and play for what they get, but is JW yuh dealing with, he will try tuh keep tt at heart when he twisting and turning....

I glad yuh see that
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2006, 09:48:29 AM »
What eva andre why cant they earn thier way!! under the old format we  play mexico if we  lorse yuh lorse we take it from dey steeps

Well in that case, why didnt you argue for us to play uruguay instead of bahrain in the play off for the world cup.

Before yuh be grate-full and be happy that Jack Warner is here to make decisions like that, yuh want to complain.

What if Mexico (a guest team) knock us out and barbados play Haiti in another quarter final and they go through to the final round...would you be happy?

with this new format, it ensures that the best 2 caribbean teams go forward into the next round (which is the purpose of this competition in the first place!!)

ah love it!!

I am not against the principle of the non host (in the next roud) caribbean teams duking it out. What i would have liked is for this to have been stipulated from the beginning of the competition and not done at the last moment. We had enough accusations of JW manipulating the draw in the semi final round to assure us passage to the hex, now this.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2006, 10:34:10 AM »
What eva andre why cant they earn thier way!! under the old format we  play mexico if we  lorse yuh lorse we take it from dey steeps

Well in that case, why didnt you argue for us to play uruguay instead of bahrain in the play off for the world cup.

Before yuh be grate-full and be happy that Jack Warner is here to make decisions like that, yuh want to complain.

What if Mexico (a guest team) knock us out and barbados play Haiti in another quarter final and they go through to the final round...would you be happy?

with this new format, it ensures that the best 2 caribbean teams go forward into the next round (which is the purpose of this competition in the first place!!)

ah love it!!

I am not against the principle of the non host (in the next roud) caribbean teams duking it out. What i would have liked is for this to have been stipulated from the beginning of the competition and not done at the last moment. We had enough accusations of JW manipulating the draw in the semi final round to assure us passage to the hex, now this.

yes that also it should have been kept the same way

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2006, 11:38:26 AM »
It good in a way.... we need as much caribbean teams up there so we can compete with the bigger youth teams like Mexico, Canada and so on and dont get blow out like 10-zip and all kinda thing. An invited guest team should not be allowed to win a qualifying tour even if they win anyway.

North America and Central America together and the Caribbean should have different qualifying system and then the top 6 winners go to a final round.

How come USA and CRC never took part ? Or them to big for we.

USA, Canada, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Panama, Mexico, Costa Rica etc etc....

Then all Caribbean team... etc etc

So in de end it go be something like this...

12 teams qualify - Costa Rica, Mexico, Guatemala, Canada, USA, Honduras, T&T, Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Surinam, Barbados.

3 groups with the top team going to the world cup. And the second place teams in each group have a playoff spot for the final spot.

Groups, A B C

x USA
y T&T
Honduras
Barbados

x Canada
y Haiti
Cuba
Guatemala

x Mexico
y Costa Rica
Surinam
Jamaica

Play off

x T&T
Costa Rica
Haiti

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Canada
T&T
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2006, 01:04:01 PM »
talk about vai qui vai planning....

so they didn't figure it coulda happen so from the start? Everybody know that Jamaica was basically playing for pride already...

eh eh eh. It funny too bad.  :D

Jack Warner coming up with new rules in the middle of the competition, which will see Jamaica now facing Canada, and not Barbados as was initially reported. So what we have now is possibly the best Caribbean team in the tourney more than likely making an exit from teh competition....so that the second best caribbean team will have a better chance of winning....

No complaints here though...I know the boyz will be giving the Canadians a run for their money.


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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2006, 01:13:11 PM »
talk about vai qui vai planning....

so they didn't figure it coulda happen so from the start? Everybody know that Jamaica was basically playing for pride already...

eh eh eh. It funny too bad.  :D

Jack Warner coming up with new rules in the middle of the competition, which will see Jamaica now facing Canada, and not Barbados as was initially reported. So what we have now is possibly the best Caribbean team in the tourney more than likely making an exit from teh competition....so that the second best caribbean team will have a better chance of winning....

No complaints here though...I know the boyz will be giving the Canadians a run for their money.

RF I find you making some serious assumptions there...you ever hear what assuming does make man do?  :devil:

As I stated, I don't agree with the break of protocol, but the fact of the matter is that Jamaica is getting a free pass to the final qualifying round as hosts. They have nothing to prove until then. At the end of the day, this Caribbean Cup is for bragging rights only (the fact that Canada was allowed to win it last year is enough alone to prove that. The Gold cup has a stipulation that the Cup is awarded to the best CONCACAF team, even if it doesn't win)
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2006, 01:41:48 PM »
talk about vai qui vai planning....

so they didn't figure it coulda happen so from the start? Everybody know that Jamaica was basically playing for pride already...

eh eh eh. It funny too bad. :D

Jack Warner coming up with new rules in the middle of the competition, which will see Jamaica now facing Canada, and not Barbados as was initially reported. So what we have now is possibly the best Caribbean team in the tourney more than likely making an exit from teh competition....so that the second best caribbean team will have a better chance of winning....

No complaints here though...I know the boyz will be giving the Canadians a run for their money.



and jamaica are the bess team based on wat? ??? past results maybe, which are always ur excuse? RF u real funny boy, your insularity is glaring and disgusting, jamaica should juss leave caricom and done...

Where did I say that Jamaica was the best Caribbean team in teh competition? I said POSSIBLY the best. The thing with T&T is that you never know if they are the best team or not, as you always seem to play everything on home soil...


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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2006, 01:47:28 PM »
Where did I say that Jamaica was the best Caribbean team in teh competition? I said POSSIBLY the best.
Yes you say possibly the best, but i notice you ent say "possibly" the second best  :o
Stop trying to tie up people with the semantics man..

The thing with T&T is that you never know if they are the best team or not, as you always seem to play everything on home soil...
So that is why Jamaica get a free bye into the final round of qualifying for the U17 cup and going to host the most important phase,  right ?  ::)
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2006, 01:50:49 PM »
talk about vai qui vai planning....

so they didn't figure it coulda happen so from the start? Everybody know that Jamaica was basically playing for pride already...

eh eh eh. It funny too bad.  :D

Jack Warner coming up with new rules in the middle of the competition, which will see Jamaica now facing Canada, and not Barbados as was initially reported. So what we have now is possibly the best Caribbean team in the tourney more than likely making an exit from teh competition....so that the second best caribbean team will have a better chance of winning....

No complaints here though...I know the boyz will be giving the Canadians a run for their money.

RF I find you making some serious assumptions there...you ever hear what assuming does make man do?  :devil:

As I stated, I don't agree with the break of protocol, but the fact of the matter is that Jamaica is getting a free pass to the final qualifying round as hosts. They have nothing to prove until then. At the end of the day, this Caribbean Cup is for bragging rights only (the fact that Canada was allowed to win it last year is enough alone to prove that. The Gold cup has a stipulation that the Cup is awarded to the best CONCACAF team, even if it doesn't win)

I wonder if RF has even seen either T&T or JA play. I can't wait to face them either in this round or the next. To shut him up once and for all.

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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2006, 02:01:47 PM »
Where did I say that Jamaica was the best Caribbean team in teh competition? I said POSSIBLY the best.
Yes you say possibly the best, but i notice you ent say "possibly" the second best  :o
Stop trying to tie up people with the semantics man..

The thing with T&T is that you never know if they are the best team or not, as you always seem to play everything on home soil...
So that is why Jamaica get a free bye into the final round of qualifying for the U17 cup and going to host the most important phase,  right ?  ::)

Which country in the Caribbean has the resources to host these tournaments. That Stadium in Barbados for the Digicel cup looked a little better than Arima Velodrome. T&T went to SVG for a WC qualifier and we almost had to play on a secondary school ground. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but didn't  Jack take money out of his own pocket to help fund last year's CFU youth cup ?


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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2006, 03:00:47 PM »
Either way, I wish Jessie Fullerton and the the rest of them youngsters all the best.  That schedule is tough for all of them teams.  3 games in five days or 4 in seven is tough, no matter who you playin' against.


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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2006, 03:02:28 PM »
Where did I say that Jamaica was the best Caribbean team in teh competition? I said POSSIBLY the best.
Yes you say possibly the best, but i notice you ent say "possibly" the second best  :o
Stop trying to tie up people with the semantics man..

The thing with T&T is that you never know if they are the best team or not, as you always seem to play everything on home soil...
So that is why Jamaica get a free bye into the final round of qualifying for the U17 cup and going to host the most important phase,  right ?  ::)

Which country in the Caribbean has the resources to host these tournaments. That Stadium in Barbados for the Digicel cup looked a little better than Arima Velodrome. T&T went to SVG for a WC qualifier and we almost had to play on a secondary school ground. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but didn't  Jack take money out of his own pocket to help fund last year's CFU youth cup ?



No country in the Caribbean has the resources to host these tournaments? What? Is it the T&T Government who is hosting these tourneys or is it the T&T Fopotball Association? Or is it Jack Warner? The last time I checked, there were at least 5 or 6 lighted playing facilities in Jamaica that could easily host these games....not to say that the JFF is in a position to host  under the current set of idiots who are in charge, but to say that T&T is the only country in the Caribben capable of hosting a football tournament is ridiculous.

 

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