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« on: June 16, 2005, 06:52:51 AM »
To SAVE our SOCCER.
By: Mervyn Stewart (Express).
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Steve David, former national footballer, who represented Trinidad and Tobago between 1971-'75, scoring 16 goals in World Cup qualifiers, is willing to return home and assist in the development of local football, but only if the powers-that-be are serious about what needs to be done.
David was a former St. Benedict's College striker in the late '60s who later played for Police in the 1970s before migrating to the USA to ply his trade in much greener pastures.
In the USA he first played for Miami Toros where he scored an amazing 26 goals in 24 matches, winning numerous MVP awards despite having to compete with the likes of England's George Best, Brazil's Pele and Germany's Franz Beckenbauer, just to name a few.
In his twilight years he turned out for San Jose Earthquakes in the National American Soccer League (NASL) before hanging up his boots somewhere in the early '80s.
Asked about his opinion concerning the present state of local football he told Express Sports that it was quite clear that while the talent was there, this country's soccer was being affected by problems at the administrative level of the game, and at times it looks like T&T are doing things by guess.
"At present, I do not agree with the system we play as a team simply because we do not have the right coaches to implement and build those systems.
"I really felt like the unit that Everald 'Gally' Cummings developed in the late '80s was quite a good squad, but our administrators failed miserably in their capacity to build on all the hard work and progress that was achieved," he explained.
David said he had the opportunity to see Trinidad and Tobago's two recent World Cup qualifiers against Panama and Mexico.
"Against Panama, I am of the view that although we came away winners they were the better team. Now when I say better I am speaking in footballing terms because Panama played a much more constructive game of football than our lads. Their approach was definitely a bit more positive, and they were quite aggressive which led to them being more dominant in the middle of the field. Their only let-down was in their inability to finish, and as we all know, goals win matches.
"We took our chances when it mattered most, scored twice and thus walked away with all three points on offer, but there was a lot lacking in our aggression and our ability to keep possession of the ball and construct plays.
"In our match-up with Mexico there was definite signs of improvement and up to the 65th minute of the game both teams were pretty evenly matched, which was
a credit to us, and were it not for those two defensive blunders we could have come away with a goalless draw and a share of the points.
"As it stands the road to Germany is undulating, but we still have an outside chance of making it if the team continues to show the type of improvement that's necessary."
David said he believed Leo Beeenhakker is a coach of substance since there were two moves implemented by the Dutchman that were for the best interest of the team. "Firstly, playing Dwight Yorke as a striker instead of in midfield was an excellent move, and putting David Nakhid where he rightfully belongs--and that is off the playing field and in the stands (no disrespect meant)."
Asked to compare the players of his era to what we currently have now and David inferred that the players of today were falling short in the area of dedication and there existed a lack of excitement in the actual playing of the game.
"Football is supposed to be entertaining and if the excitement factor is missing then fans will not feel motivated to come out and watch football matches Instead they will find an alternative that provides them with the degree of excitement they are looking for."
David believes that in order for T&T's football to move forward skilled and knowledgeable persons, such as Leroy De Leon, need to have some sort of input. "De Leon fame is well-known, having been voted as one of the greatest player to grace CONCACAF tournaments and certainly one of the best players Trinidad and Tobago has ever produced.
"He's currently doing an excellent job of developing young players in the USA and if he could do it with so much success abroad then certainly he can do the same at home."
David is also calling on the people in charge of football that in the event T&T were not to qualify for next year's World Cup Finals, they should hang on to coach Beenhakker for at least the next four to five years to ensure that the standard of this country's football gets the opportunity to elevate so that next time around we will be exactly where we want to be.
Quizzed whether he would like to be given the opportunity of guiding this country's soccer? The US-based David's reply was: "With the sad state our football finds itself in at the moment, and if our football administrators are serious about what it takes to turn things around then I am quite prepared to quit my job and play a pivotal role in saving football in T&T".
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2005, 08:03:19 AM »
I do feel good when i read post like this,mordern day Footballers /Administrators take note,although i've been saying my bit for some time now it's nice to hear Sammy and now Steve,all we are saying is don't distroy the game improve it.   

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2006, 11:04:44 PM »
What have we learned? why is the record still playing the same tune?

To SAVE our SOCCER

Steve David wants...

Mervyn Stewart


Thursday, June 16th 2005 TNT EXPRESS
 
 
 
 

Steve David, former national footballer, who represented Trinidad and Tobago between 1971-'75, scoring 16 goals in World Cup qualifiers, is willing to return home and assist in the development of local football, but only if the powers-that-be are serious about what needs to be done.

David was a former St. Benedict's College striker in the late '60s who later played for Police in the 1970s before migrating to the USA to ply his trade in much greener pastures.

In the USA he first played for Miami Toros where he scored an amazing 26 goals in 24 matches, winning numerous MVP awards despite having to compete with the likes of England's George Best, Brazil's Pele and Germany's Franz Beckenbauer, just to name a few.

In his twilight years he turned out for San Jose Earthquakes in the National American Soccer League (NASL) before hanging up his boots somewhere in the early '80s.

Asked about his opinion concerning the present state of local football he told Express Sports that it was quite clear that while the talent was there, this country's soccer was being affected by problems at the administrative level of the game, and at times it looks like T&T are doing things by guess.

"At present, I do not agree with the system we play as a team simply because we do not have the right coaches to implement and build those systems.

"I really felt like the unit that Everald 'Gally' Cummings developed in the late '80s was quite a good squad, but our administrators failed miserably in their capacity to build on all the hard work and progress that was achieved," he explained.

David said he had the opportunity to see Trinidad and Tobago's two recent World Cup qualifiers against Panama and Mexico.

"Against Panama, I am of the view that although we came away winners they were the better team. Now when I say better I am speaking in footballing terms because Panama played a much more constructive game of football than our lads. Their approach was definitely a bit more positive, and they were quite aggressive which led to them being more dominant in the middle of the field. Their only let-down was in their inability to finish, and as we all know, goals win matches.

"We took our chances when it mattered most, scored twice and thus walked away with all three points on offer, but there was a lot lacking in our aggression and our ability to keep possession of the ball and construct plays.

"In our match-up with Mexico there was definite signs of improvement and up to the 65th minute of the game both teams were pretty evenly matched, which was

a credit to us, and were it not for those two defensive blunders we could have come away with a goalless draw and a share of the points.

"As it stands the road to Germany is undulating, but we still have an outside chance of making it if the team continues to show the type of improvement that's necessary."

David said he believed Leo Beeenhakker is a coach of substance since there were two moves implemented by the Dutchman that were for the best interest of the team. "Firstly, playing Dwight Yorke as a striker instead of in midfield was an excellent move, and putting David Nakhid where he rightfully belongs--and that is off the playing field and in the stands (no disrespect meant)."

Asked to compare the players of his era to what we currently have now and David inferred that the players of today were falling short in the area of dedication and there existed a lack of excitement in the actual playing of the game.

"Football is supposed to be entertaining and if the excitement factor is missing then fans will not feel motivated to come out and watch football matches Instead they will find an alternative that provides them with the degree of excitement they are looking for."

David believes that in order for T&T's football to move forward skilled and knowledgeable persons, such as Leroy De Leon, need to have some sort of input. "De Leon fame is well-known, having been voted as one of the greatest player to grace CONCACAF tournaments and certainly one of the best players Trinidad and Tobago has ever produced.

"He's currently doing an excellent job of developing young players in the USA and if he could do it with so much success abroad then certainly he can do the same at home."

David is also calling on the people in charge of football that in the event T&T were not to qualify for next year's World Cup Finals, they should hang on to coach Beenhakker for at least the next four to five years to ensure that the standard of this country's football gets the opportunity to elevate so that next time around we will be exactly where we want to be.

Quizzed whether he would like to be given the opportunity of guiding this country's soccer? The US-based David's reply was: "With the sad state our football finds itself in at the moment, and if our football administrators are serious about what it takes to turn things around then I am quite prepared to quit my job and play a pivotal role in saving football in T&T".
 

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2006, 06:15:33 AM »


In the USA he first played for Miami Toros where he scored an amazing 26 goals in 24 matches, winning numerous MVP awards despite having to compete with the likes of England's George Best, Brazil's Pele and Germany's Franz Beckenbauer, just to name a few.


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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2006, 06:31:03 AM »
David is correct, the problem with T&T football is not the players, it has always been the administrators. Football is about the players and de fans who support them, the administrators are mere facilitators.

As soon as our administrators in de federation and at club level recognize this only then would our football and the business of football improve in T&T.

The TTFF and the clubs have to create an environment that fosters growth, not only club and de federation ecomomic growth , but the kind that brings out genuine passion, and de excitement that Steve spoke about. Our 'ballers and fans have over the years been used as pawns, and this needs to stop. It's time we throw tradition out de window, and create a footballing system that brings de players and their fans together as a cohesive unit where one is an extention of the other, but not only on gameday.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 07:47:25 AM »
To SAVE our SOCCER
By: Mervyn Stewart


Steve David wants...

David said he believed Leo Beeenhakker is a coach of substance since there were two moves implemented by the Dutchman that were for the best interest of the team. "Firstly, playing Dwight Yorke as a striker instead of in midfield was an excellent move"

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2006, 01:40:22 PM »
I don't know what SHIT this so call hero of the past talking bout SOCCER I don't know the man, but for those of you who know him,please tell him to get with the program and call we sport Football before he come back here with the American talk bout Soccer >:(

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2006, 01:51:51 PM »
I don't know what SHIT this so call hero of the past talking bout SOCCER I don't know the man, but for those of you who know him,please tell him to get with the program and call we sport Football before he come back here with the American talk bout Soccer >:(

This is a joke right ?
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2006, 02:39:20 PM »
I don't know what SHIT this so call hero of the past talking bout SOCCER I don't know the man, but for those of you who know him,please tell him to get with the program and call we sport Football before he come back here with the American talk bout Soccer >:(

This is a joke right ?

Now it so happens that the man living in the USdonkey years now. Same way, Dwight speaks of the 'lads' the 'gaffer' and a 'spot of tea' you can't really blame him if the yankee vocabulary become part and parcel of his speech.
That said, if you (Trini airman) read the article carefully you would have noticed in the quotations the man only used the word "football". The word "soccer" was employed by the journalist and interchangeably with football at that. I think it use in the title was for alliterative effect.

Notwithstanding, the kind of disrespect that you just show to a national hero does hurt men heart bad bad bad..
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2006, 02:45:26 PM »
I don't know what SHIT this so call hero of the past talking bout SOCCER I don't know the man, but for those of you who know him,please tell him to get with the program and call we sport Football before he come back here with the American talk bout Soccer >:(

This is a joke right ?

Now it so happens that the man living in the USdonkey years now. Same way, Dwight speaks of the 'lads' the 'gaffer' and a 'spot of tea' you can't really blame him if the yankee vocabulary become part and parcel of his speech.
That said, if you (Trini airman) read the article carefully you would have noticed in the quotations the man only used the word "football". The word "soccer" was employed by the journalist and interchangeably with football at that. I think it use in the title was for alliterative effect.

Notwithstanding, the kind of disrespect that you just show to a national hero does hurt men heart bad bad bad..

Not to mention that whether he called it football or soccer is totally irrelevant to the overal point of the article... but I guess some people derive alot of pleasure from the minor issues while ignoring the big picture.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2006, 02:57:02 PM »
I don't know what SHIT this so call hero of the past talking bout SOCCER I don't know the man, but for those of you who know him,please tell him to get with the program and call we sport Football before he come back here with the American talk bout Soccer >:(

yuh should be grounded for yuh blasphemy....if yuh don't know find out..yuh chose to comment on somenody yuh doh nuthen bout, and amke yuh self look like yuh flying real low...step up young man

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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2006, 03:26:25 PM »

Lincoln Phillips is also say soccer sometimes.
It real annoying.

Anyway...yuh still doh need to disprespect former players.

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2006, 03:49:38 PM »

Lincoln Phillips is also say soccer sometimes.
It real annoying.


People who have a serious issue with the word "soccer" are just full of sh*t. The full technical name of the sport is Association football....which is where the word soccer was derived...

Because Americans use the word to distinguish it from American football, people have an issue with it, because of the age old ignorant point of view that Americans don't rightfully belong to the global football fraternity....the truth is, the word soccer was first used by the british- not Americans....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Wreford-Brown

And all of the english speaking world that call the sport football, just make one big lump of British influenced (& probably colonized) countries that adopted the word from their "masters"......so there really isn't any merit in that either....by calling it football, the only thing that you communicate is that you're an ex-colony of Britain......boast about that if you wish.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2006, 04:12:23 PM »
don't want to get off topic or argue...but I always thought the word was used to identify the Association (soccer) and not the sport (football) I have done a lot of reading where that is concern and never saw where the actually called the sport soccer back then, but referred to the head association. This was done to distinguish between the union and the association...one represented rugby and the other football. But anyways, it does not matter now..the word is now being used mainstream now, mainly because the USA have there own "football".

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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2006, 04:24:37 PM »

Sorry...the word is still annoying (even after repeating your history lesson for us again)

Hope u doh mind too much if we have an opinion different from yours about the word.

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 04:42:05 PM »

Sorry...the word is still annoying (even after repeating your history lesson for us again)

Hope u doh mind too much if we have an opinion different from yours about the word.

I hope that was not for me, cause I am on "your" side  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2006, 05:24:43 PM »
I hope that was not for me

Nah man.


To take it back to the original article.
If these guys are waiting for JW to step aside they probably won't come anytime soon.
You can sit on the fence complaining or jump in like LP.  In any case the admin will likely never be good enough for these guys.  Can't say I blame them because they have to make sure they have some stability to upkeep their families.

But from the way things are going it looks like the younger coaches like Anton, Brian Williams, Hutson Charles and the others are the ones being groomed to work with National Teams.

Are they suggesting he comes back to work with national programs or something else like Club programs.  Couldn't they get something with the Pro League if they had actual coaching credentials?
Or even another caribbean nation. 
They say he is doing stuff in the US but at what level exactly?  LP was working on the National Level I believe.  So is SH.

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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2006, 05:53:31 PM »

Sorry...the word is still annoying (even after repeating your history lesson for us again)

Hope u doh mind too much if we have an opinion different from yours about the word.

I don't really care who likes or doesn't like the word...what I know is that alotta people (most if not all) who don't like the word, don't like it  because they think it's American.....when it's not....

so it's an opinion that is rooted in ignorance...that was my point. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2006, 05:57:46 PM »

Sorry...the word is still annoying (even after repeating your history lesson for us again)

Hope u doh mind too much if we have an opinion different from yours about the word.

I don't really care who likes or doesn't like the word...what I know is that alotta people (most if not all) who don't like the word, don't like it  because they think it's American.....when it's not....

so it's an opinion that is rooted in ignorance...that was my point. 

Fair enough...but u have to admit its current usage is mostly from Americans (and Aussies)...so it is not all ignorance...regardless of its origins.

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2006, 06:39:31 PM »
After reading some of the replies,i realized that i disrespected David and i apologise for that.As for you Kicker the word Soccer is used by Americans more than anyone else and i lived in Trinidad most of my life,i grew up with the word, infact i Play the game we Trinidadians call Football,so forgive me if i does get mad when man calling Football Soccer.

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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2006, 06:46:29 PM »
After reading some of the replies,i realized that i disrespected David and i apologise for that.As for you Kicker the word Soccer is used by Americans more than anyone else and i lived in Trinidad most of my life,i grew up with the word, infact i Play the game we Trinidadians call Football,so forgive me if i does get mad when man calling Football Soccer.

it's all good....to me it's just a word. I grow up and know it as football, but I didn't invent the word, I don't take any credit for calling the sport football, so it eh worth it to me to get vex with another culture for having another name for it...... :beermug:
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