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TTFF sacrifice rookies.
« on: May 31, 2007, 06:56:34 PM »
TTFF sacrifice rookies.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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Fool's Gold.

Densill Theobald held the Digicel Shield trophy aloft on Wednesday night and led his teammates into an uninhibited victory dance after Trinidad and Tobago ’s 2-1 win over the Mexico national under-20 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port of Spain.
Theobald, the present national captain, is the only member of the 2006 World Cup squad who remains in active duty. Sixteen of his teammates were ignored by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) after threatening legal action over a bonus dispute while three more players refused 2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup invitations on principle and three, including Dwight Yorke and Russell Latapy, quit the international scene altogether.
Theobald will dream of a triumphant return at the Piarco International Airport on June 25, 2007—one day after the Gold Cup final in Chicago. In fact, it will be a minor miracle if the “Soca Warriors” get out of their group.
The Warriors have as much chance of survival as did the British Light Brigade in Balaklava, Russia on October 25, 1854.
For those unfamiliar with the infamous battle, immortalized by Lord Tennyson’s poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade”, 673 cavalry men were sent to attack 5,240 heavily armed Russian soldiers. The Russians initially thought their adversaries to be drunk and nearly half the Light Brigade were killed or seriously wounded before their retreat.
The reckless but futile bravery prompted the French Marshal Pierre Bosquet to proclaim, “C’est magnifique, mais ce n’est pas la guerre” or “It is magnificent, but it is not war”.
Trinidad and Tobago’s 22-man squad—all but one of whom plies his trade in the domestic Pro League—go to war next Thursday with fanciful notions of conquering the region for their flag.
In truth, the young men were badly let down by superior officers and it will be left to their Pro League employers to restore wounded pride later this month.
Only three members of the travelling party—Gary Glasgow, Silvio Spann and Theobald—have previous Gold Cup experience while 12 of coach Wim Rijsbergen’s 20-man squad have less than 10 international appearances each.
Rijsbergen had three games, including Wednesday’s stoppage time triumph against Mexican teenagers, to put them through their final paces. Tomorrow, they close their warm-up preparations away to a Honduran team that was whipped 3-1 at home to Haiti in April.
Compare this build-up to seven years ago when coach Bertille St Clair’s men tackled Canada, Costa Rica and a full strength Moroccan team before managing the country’s highest ever finish of fourth.
If the CONCACAF president was anyone but T&TFF special advisor Jack Warner, surely questions would be asked as to why a World Cup team has opted to treat the 2007 competition so shabbily and perhaps—as was this case with Togo at the Germany tournament—mediators might have been sought.
For administrators and players to disagree so bitterly in the face of a prior agreement is regrettable but not insurmountable. But for the T&TFF to submit its Gold Cup squad without attempting to meet its players and/or their representatives and following months of ignoring attempts at discussion by the Warriors’ lawyer smacks of foolhardy arrogance.
Literature recalls the brave British soliders of Balaklava but history is not so kind to their inept commanding officers.
Maybe Theobald and his men will also invoke a dashing tale from their efforts later this month.
The Pro League clubs would be thrilled at the prospect of such high profile exposure for their top players. But it could turn into a nightmare when the Warriors run into a full strength United States outfit on June 9.
Then, it will be worth remembering the circumstances that saw a bunch of brave Pro League players handed a task well above their station.
“Theirs not to reason why,” wrote Lord Tennyson, “theirs but to do and die.”
God help the survivors.
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Re: TTFF sacrifice rookies.
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 07:21:09 PM »
Very bleak outlook by Lasana.

This will be a tournament of "what could have been" for the fans but for the players it is something different.

These players will not need to be consoled by their clubs at tournament's end.

They have nothing to lose and will not be embarrassed as many seem to think.

I believe that a 3rd place or even 2nd place finish in the group is not out of reach so getting out of the group will not be that "miraculous".
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Re: TTFF sacrifice rookies.
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 07:27:02 PM »
TTFF sacrifice rookies.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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Fool's Gold.

Densill Theobald held the Digicel Shield trophy aloft on Wednesday night and led his teammates into an uninhibited victory dance after Trinidad and Tobago ’s 2-1 win over the Mexico national under-20 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port of Spain.
Theobald, the present national captain, is the only member of the 2006 World Cup squad who remains in active duty. Sixteen of his teammates were ignored by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) after threatening legal action over a bonus dispute while three more players refused 2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup invitations on principle and three, including Dwight Yorke and Russell Latapy, quit the international scene altogether.
Theobald will dream of a triumphant return at the Piarco International Airport on June 25, 2007—one day after the Gold Cup final in Chicago. In fact, it will be a minor miracle if the “Soca Warriors” get out of their group.
The Warriors have as much chance of survival as did the British Light Brigade in Balaklava, Russia on October 25, 1854.
For those unfamiliar with the infamous battle, immortalized by Lord Tennyson’s poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade”, 673 cavalry men were sent to attack 5,240 heavily armed Russian soldiers. The Russians initially thought their adversaries to be drunk and nearly half the Light Brigade were killed or seriously wounded before their retreat.
The reckless but futile bravery prompted the French Marshal Pierre Bosquet to proclaim, “C’est magnifique, mais ce n’est pas la guerre” or “It is magnificent, but it is not war”.
Trinidad and Tobago’s 22-man squad—all but one of whom plies his trade in the domestic Pro League—go to war next Thursday with fanciful notions of conquering the region for their flag.
In truth, the young men were badly let down by superior officers and it will be left to their Pro League employers to restore wounded pride later this month.
Only three members of the travelling party—Gary Glasgow, Silvio Spann and Theobald—have previous Gold Cup experience while 12 of coach Wim Rijsbergen’s 20-man squad have less than 10 international appearances each.
Rijsbergen had three games, including Wednesday’s stoppage time triumph against Mexican teenagers, to put them through their final paces. Tomorrow, they close their warm-up preparations away to a Honduran team that was whipped 3-1 at home to Haiti in April.
Compare this build-up to seven years ago when coach Bertille St Clair’s men tackled Canada, Costa Rica and a full strength Moroccan team before managing the country’s highest ever finish of fourth.
If the CONCACAF president was anyone but T&TFF special advisor Jack Warner, surely questions would be asked as to why a World Cup team has opted to treat the 2007 competition so shabbily and perhaps—as was this case with Togo at the Germany tournament—mediators might have been sought.
For administrators and players to disagree so bitterly in the face of a prior agreement is regrettable but not insurmountable. But for the T&TFF to submit its Gold Cup squad without attempting to meet its players and/or their representatives and following months of ignoring attempts at discussion by the Warriors’ lawyer smacks of foolhardy arrogance.
Literature recalls the brave British soliders of Balaklava but history is not so kind to their inept commanding officers.
Maybe Theobald and his men will also invoke a dashing tale from their efforts later this month.
The Pro League clubs would be thrilled at the prospect of such high profile exposure for their top players. But it could turn into a nightmare when the Warriors run into a full strength United States outfit on June 9.
Then, it will be worth remembering the circumstances that saw a bunch of brave Pro League players handed a task well above their station.
“Theirs not to reason why,” wrote Lord Tennyson, “theirs but to do and die.”
God help the survivors.
:rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  damn Lasana lash them oui  ;673 cavalry men were sent to attack 5,240 heavily armed Russian soldiers. The Russians initially thought their adversaries to be drunk and nearly half the Light Brigade were killed or seriously wounded before their retreat.;.
Jack Warner is ah Kakahole  ::)
But they might make it out of the group .

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Re: TTFF sacrifice rookies.
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 07:53:18 PM »
Guys this reminds me of a World War II movie where the soldiers go into a fight knowing they have no chance of surviving but doing it for their country, and in the end all man end up dead on d ground and movie done  :( sad indeed
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 10:03:35 PM »
Very poignant analogy by Lasana, as history has taught us, murder will out, just takes some time, it is just quite tragic that we (players and fans alike) would have suffered so much before the perpetrator(s) of all these "homicides" is no more...
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2007, 10:17:20 PM »
 Like Lasana never see 300 or he never hear about Vietnam war...We shall overcome...Go T&T

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2007, 10:32:11 PM »
Like Lasana never see 300 or he never hear about Vietnam war...We shall overcome...Go T&T

Umm....bad analoies there pallix, real ppl die on both those occasions. We going and get real lix but we will look at the team and say ''they played their heart out'' if you using those analogies.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2007, 10:50:24 PM »
well what is the team going honduras and the gold cup???

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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2007, 10:55:56 PM »
Like Lasana never see 300 or he never hear about Vietnam war...We shall overcome...Go T&T

for some strange reason i not seeing densil theobald and this team striking fear into opponents .......despite the valiant effort of the 300 dey still dead......

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2007, 10:58:33 PM »
well what is the team going honduras and the gold cup???

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http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28086.0

TRINIDAD & TOBAGO GOLD CUP SQUAD
GK: Marvin Phillip (North East Stars), Daurance Williams (San Juan Jabloteh), Jan Michael Williams (W Connection FC);
DF: Dwayne Jack (San Juan Jabloteh), Thomas Nickcolson (W Connection FC), Anthony Noreiga (Joe Public FC), Trent Noel (San Juan Jabloteh), Seon Power (Joe Public FC), Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public FC), Glenton Wolffe (North East Stars);
MD: Romauld Aguillera (United Petrotrin), Christon Baptiste (Defence Force), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public FC), Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin), Andrei Pacheco (W Connection FC), Silvio Spann (W Connection FC), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA);
AT: Gary Glasgow (Joe Public FC), Kendall Jagdeosingh (North East Stars), Errol McFarlane (Superstar Rangers), Darryl Roberts (Sparta Rotterdam/NED), Andre Toussaint (W Connection FC).
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2007, 03:32:31 AM »
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I believe that a 3rd place or even 2nd place finish in the group is not out of reach so getting out of the group will not be that "miraculous".
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2007, 04:45:27 AM »
Like Lasana never see 300 or he never hear about Vietnam war...We shall overcome...Go T&T

for some strange reason i not seeing densil theobald and this team striking fear into opponents .......despite the valiant effort of the 300 dey still dead......

Yea, but they did create a big impression didnt they?

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2007, 05:27:30 AM »
Like Lasana never see 300 or he never hear about Vietnam war...We shall overcome...Go T&T

for some strange reason i not seeing densil theobald and this team striking fear into opponents .......despite the valiant effort of the 300 dey still dead......

Yea, but they did create a big impression didnt they?

Trini, last year around dis time yuh was thinking that we woulda be going to de Gold Cup to "make ah impression" or to mash up team left, right and centre??....to really make we mark on this tournament once and for all?  I doh know bout you, but I was thinking of lifting de damn Cup once and for all....

Now ah hoping we get out de group.....

You see that is exactly why Jackula has won before and will continue to win.
He know we is ah nine day wonder country, and we goh forget we heroes as the months go by....

Stteeeuuppss.....I right on the brink of resignation over this whole blasted thing.....leh we goh wid we weakened and team and hope for de best......it seems like dat is all we forever will be....a bunch ah people hoping we team do well instead ah knowing for ah fact we have we best team available.....
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2007, 06:57:50 AM »
allyuhlook at movie and make alyuh self feel good.  De story is not about overcoming de odds alone yuh kmow..it showed what could happen with good preparation and training..NOTE well is de best ah de persian army dat went to war...
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 08:23:43 AM »
I-I-I TT! Shake de Balisier!

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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2007, 08:41:22 AM »
Like Lasana never see 300 or he never hear about Vietnam war...We shall overcome...Go T&T

300 Would be a more accurate representation of our situation. The Greek (aka TTFF)government failed to see the imminent threat to their lands and held back their army, and it was left to Leonidis to hold the narrow passage until, sadly all were eventually killed.

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2007, 08:44:35 AM »
Allyuh getting on like the regulars used to win everything ...steups...The best we ever do was with Bertille and he had players playing for him  and not for money alone

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2007, 09:02:08 AM »
Allyuh...Jackula is not a kakahole. He knows what he is doing. The only way he can maintain his control over TnT's football is if it is in a perpetual state of chaos.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2007, 09:07:10 AM »
When you really think about it...this is ah game with ah ball in thee middle and eleven men on each side. They say "God is ah Trini" so we go see! ;D
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2007, 10:01:04 AM »
Guys this reminds me of a World War II movie where the soldiers go into a fight knowing they have no chance of surviving but doing it for their country, and in the end all man end up dead on d ground and movie done  :( sad indeed

Good analogy Die Hard, and remmember,its always the fault of the weak generals (Camps) who risks his troops foolishly to satisfy the mad power hungry dictator/monarch (Warner)

The real damage I fear, is the confidence and future of these boys. If trini get mash up, maybe a potential star player lose his confidence and career go backwards?

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2007, 11:04:42 AM »
Guys this reminds me of a World War II movie where the soldiers go into a fight knowing they have no chance of surviving but doing it for their country, and in the end all man end up dead on d ground and movie done  :( sad indeed

Good analogy Die Hard, and remmember,its always the fault of the weak generals (Camps) who risks his troops foolishly to satisfy the mad power hungry dictator/monarch (Warner)

The real damage I fear, is the confidence and future of these boys. If trini get mash up, maybe a potential star player lose his confidence and career go backwards?

that is so true  :(
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2007, 11:50:08 AM »
What about the FIFA ranking and players who seeking work permit overseas? Would not all these games count against us if we lose? Would this not put players future careers in jeopardy?
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2007, 03:01:31 PM »
Ponnoxx, like yuh get a bumboclat handout from Jackula or wha? Hope he pay yuh in advance, because dat killa doh know what promise or contract mean at all
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2007, 08:45:40 PM »
I knew Lisana was a journalist now I can say he is one par excellent. An extremely well written piec. Them other jokers eh even know bout that war far less to use an anology.

As 4 playin for money all yuh is the same set who go cuss when u eh get bonus at th end of the yr. Yuh work was piss poor but you want bonus. The company eh make no money put u want bonus. None of them applicable to the warriors
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2007, 01:37:18 PM »
Allyuh...Jackula is not a kakahole. He knows what he is doing. The only way he can maintain his control over TnT's football is if it is in a perpetual state of chaos.

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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2007, 02:38:48 PM »
Ti Conscience is lacking from T&t Soul and you sporting a PNM baliser ?
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2007, 03:57:45 PM »
Ponnoxx, like yuh get a bumboclat handout from Jackula or wha? Hope he pay yuh in advance, because dat killa doh know what promise or contract mean at all

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