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Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
« on: February 13, 2008, 10:22:58 PM »
Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
By: Ian Prescott (Express)


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While Wim Rijsbergen, the suspended Trinidad and Tobago national football coach, often harped on the inadequate quality of footballers coming out of the local T&T Pro League, his replacement Francisco Maturana has pledged to make a proper assessment before deciding which of them he will work with during the 2010 World Cup qualifying campaign.
This was one of the major developments coming out of a meeting yesterday with officials of the T&T Pro League which was held to discuss their programme for the 2008 calendar as it relates to the campaign.
Maturana, along with assistant coach Anton Corneal, manager David Muhammad other members of the technical staff, as well as Pro League Chairman Larry Romany, CEO Dexter Skeene, other staff members and club representatives met for exactly two hours at the Pro League' Office, Valpark Shopping Centre.
Afterwards, Larry Romany, the chairman of the T&T Pro League, described the meeting as totally beneficial to both parties. When asked if the quality of players in the local Pro League had improved, Romany said: "Yes, we asked him about that. He said he had already seen four or five players he was interested in, but will be in a better position to say how good they are after an evaluation of the 21 or so local players who he will be working with. He said he would bring in some coaches from Uruguay to do the evaluation."
Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule. A proposal was also made to have Maturana meet with club coaches, so that he could instruct them on what specific training would be required to bring national prospects up to international status. Also pleased with the meeting was assistant national coach Alvin Corneal.
"The meeting was a very positive one," Corneal told TTFF Media. "It was really about harmonizing our plan with the League as it relates to the international campaign for the country's senior team in 2008 onwards for the 2010 qualification bid. At the end of it, all parties were on the same page and were firm on implementing what is best for the national programme and of course the League."
Later in the week, Maturana will announce a provisional training squad to resume preparations next week leading up to the March 26 friendly international with Jamaica in Kingston and a proposed friendly against El Salvador here at a date to be confirmed in March.
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The T&T Football Federation’s technical staff attached to the national senior team met with officials of the T&T Pro League yesterday to discuss its programme for the 2008 calendar as it relates to this country’s 2010 World Cup qualifying campaign. Both parties left the meeting table pleased with the discussions on the initiatives and measures to be put in place from here on.
Senior team interim head coach Francisco Maturana along with assistant coach Anton Corneal, manager David Muhammad, other members of the technical staff as well as Pro League chairman Larry Romany, CEO Dexter Skeene, other staff members and club representatives met for some two hours at the Pro League office at Valpark Shopping Centre.
“The meeting was a very positive one,” Corneal said. “It was really about harmonising our plan with the league as it relates to the international campaign for the country’s senior team in 2008 onwards for the 2010 qualification bid. At the end of it, all parties were on the same page and were firm on implementing what is best for the national programme and of course the league,” Corneal added.
Maturana will later in the week announce a provisional training squad to resume preparations next week leading up to the March 26 friendly international against Jamaica in Kingston and a proposed friendly against El Salvador in T&T at a date to be confirmed in March.
In related news World football governing body Fifa has picked its team that will inspect facilities where Nigeria intends to host next year’s Fifa U-17 World Cup championship.
Head of youth competitions and Fifa vice president, Jack Warner will lead a team that includes executive director, Fifa competitions division Jim Brown, senior manager, Fifa stadiums and security Adnan El Guindy, John Schumacher of Fifa competitions, Emmanuel Maradas of Fifa communications and Enrique Byrom of the accommodations office. There will also be representatives from Fifa marketing and Fifa TV. Warner leaves T&T today for Nigeria and then depart for Zurich Wednesday.
Top officials of the Nigeria 2009 LOC are already working round the clock to ensure that every facility and equipment at the centres that Nigeria is proposing for the competition is in great shape ahead of the visit. The final competition will take place in October 2009.
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Re: Uruguayan experts to assess local pros
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 10:30:49 PM »
Sonds like Maturana is proceeding ia an ordered professional fashion to produce the best possible team.
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Re: Uruguayan experts to assess local pros
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 11:38:53 PM »
ent ah said so.....

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=19905.msg206665#msg206665


Ent ah saying more.......


http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29591.msg337660#msg337660

Yuh develop our pros, yuh get better skilled players
yuh get better skilled players
yuh have a much improved national team
 

This is one of the few reports where a 'hired' coach is now actively working alongside local football executives to address the improvement of  the local talent.  Bravo fuh dat......
« Last Edit: February 13, 2008, 11:42:13 PM by AB.Trini »

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 12:05:43 AM »
we've heard this before though
lets hope it actully plays out

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 03:55:24 AM »
He said he had already seen four or five players he was interested in, but will be in a better position to say how good they are after an evaluation of the 21 or so local players who he will be working with. He said he would bring in some coaches from Uruguay to do the evaluation."

I'm all for bringing in additional expertise when needed but this strikes me as a bit odd...isn't player evaluation part of what we brought Maturana in to do?
Wonder who is paying to fly these coaches in from Uruguay ???  Can't be the bankrupt TTFF who can't afford to pay their players and coaches...

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 07:43:13 AM »
Yeah right
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 07:45:44 AM »
Not all coaches could look at prospects and tell what they could become .That s what scouts are for .

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 09:49:46 AM »
He said he had already seen four or five players he was interested in, but will be in a better position to say how good they are after an evaluation of the 21 or so local players who he will be working with. He said he would bring in some coaches from Uruguay to do the evaluation."

I'm all for bringing in additional expertise when needed but this strikes me as a bit odd...isn't player evaluation part of what we brought Maturana in to do?
Wonder who is paying to fly these coaches in from Uruguay ??? Can't be the bankrupt TTFF who can't afford to pay their players and coaches...

This has the benefit of independent assessment. Aside from that, it's not merely a question of simply looking at a player under match or match-related conditions. You have to consider the metric ibeing used.

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 10:27:43 AM »
Finally sound like we get the kinda coach we need. Coaching smaller countries is way different form larger more established ones. We needed someone to help us with developement of players and not just motivate players and develop a match strategy.

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 10:40:44 AM »
Very Good news...

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 11:31:31 AM »
Interesting development.....ah like it....let's just see if it does come to fruition and de TTFF doh let we (players and fans) down.....AGAIN!!...
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 12:47:09 PM »
Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
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Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule. A proposal was also made to have Maturana meet with club coaches, so that he could instruct them on what specific training would be required to bring national prospects up to international status. Also pleased with the meeting was assistant national coach Alvin Corneal.


This is the approach I thought Wim should have been taking all the long yet men lambast and bawl daiz not he wuk, he cyah involve heself at the club level and what not..

Lets hope after the assessments, he is still confident about the raw materials he will have at his disposal..
         

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2008, 02:04:20 PM »
Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
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Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule. A proposal was also made to have Maturana meet with club coaches, so that he could instruct them on what specific training would be required to bring national prospects up to international status. Also pleased with the meeting was assistant national coach Alvin Corneal.


This is the approach I thought Wim should have been taking all the long yet men lambast and bawl daiz not he wuk, he cyah involve heself at the club level and what not..

Lets hope after the assessments, he is still confident about the raw materials he will have at his disposal..

Wim is ah straight up asshole. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2008, 02:39:42 PM »
Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
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Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule. A proposal was also made to have Maturana meet with club coaches, so that he could instruct them on what specific training would be required to bring national prospects up to international status. Also pleased with the meeting was assistant national coach Alvin Corneal.


This is the approach I thought Wim should have been taking all the long yet men lambast and bawl daiz not he wuk, he cyah involve heself at the club level and what not..

Lets hope after the assessments, he is still confident about the raw materials he will have at his disposal..

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2008, 02:42:29 PM »
Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
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Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule. A proposal was also made to have Maturana meet with club coaches, so that he could instruct them on what specific training would be required to bring national prospects up to international status. Also pleased with the meeting was assistant national coach Alvin Corneal.


This is the approach I thought Wim should have been taking all the long yet men lambast and bawl daiz not he wuk, he cyah involve heself at the club level and what not..

Lets hope after the assessments, he is still confident about the raw materials he will have at his disposal..
Ahm... didn't Wim try to do the exact same thing and nobody come?

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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2008, 02:49:05 PM »
Uruguayan experts to assess local pros.
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Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule. A proposal was also made to have Maturana meet with club coaches, so that he could instruct them on what specific training would be required to bring national prospects up to international status. Also pleased with the meeting was assistant national coach Alvin Corneal.


This is the approach I thought Wim should have been taking all the long yet men lambast and bawl daiz not he wuk, he cyah involve heself at the club level and what not..

Lets hope after the assessments, he is still confident about the raw materials he will have at his disposal..
Ahm... didn't Wim try to do the exact same thing and nobody come?

when was that??

before or after he alienate all and sundry in de pro league?
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008, 04:52:53 PM »
 This is what I talking about...This man seem to be the real deal...From that move where he meeting with the clubs to instruct them....Why they could have gotten him sooner...I don't want to oversupport to quick but that move have me on the bandwagon...Wim's plan didn't actually get off the ground and at that point he was an asshole yet...but lets hope this guy can do it...It look like this is the first thing he looking to do so it seems he is in the right direction ...SA 2010 ...We comin.... :beermug:....Go T&T!!!
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2008, 06:07:58 PM »
hmmm sounds good, but ill believe it all when i see results.


It would some though as if he takin the right steps.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 06:57:06 PM »
Methodological evaluation and assessment are indispentional to having in place all factors for a top notch program.

According to Tim Tim, "Yuh see how we Trini's like tuh tork big."

Actually implementing it is totally another story.

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2008, 07:03:59 PM »
Well at least this foreign man de first I see or hear off that want to improve ball at the local level, and say what his plan is, unlike Simoes and Wim de dim-witted, dutch dunce, and I like it so far.  The real trouble is if de TTFF go implement the man plan.

He eh say de players shitty, dey like tuh lime under cocout tree andde culture is one dat doh..no cyar foster professionalim and if yuh want tuh succeed yuh have tuh leave at an early age...steups what de hell dat mean?  early age?  2 months old?  I hope Jack support de man and eh frustrate him.

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2008, 07:41:03 PM »
hope his coaches dont leave any stone unturn from tobago to moruga in finding talent,

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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2008, 07:55:48 PM »
Wim attended Pro-League matches regularly and was also actively involved in the national youth setup.   He wasn't just making comments maliciously about our football. I won't discredit what Maturana is doing. Considering his situation, it seems sensible that he wants 'evaluate' players. I just don't think he'll find anything Wim didn't. 

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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2008, 08:12:58 PM »
Wim attended Pro-League matches regularly and was also actively involved in the national youth setup.   He wasn't just making comments maliciously about our football. I won't discredit what Maturana is doing. Considering his situation, it seems sensible that he wants 'evaluate' players. I just don't think he'll find anything Wim didn't. 

I does watch EPL games regular too, dat doh mean ah ting when it comes to improving the league...dat may help in uncovering talent...bottom line!

wim is ah cow c**t.

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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2008, 08:35:48 PM »
Wim attended Pro-League matches regularly and was also actively involved in the national youth setup.   He wasn't just making comments maliciously about our football. I won't discredit what Maturana is doing. Considering his situation, it seems sensible that he wants 'evaluate' players. I just don't think he'll find anything Wim didn't. 

I does watch EPL games regular too, dat doh mean ah ting when it comes to improving the league...dat may help in uncovering talent...bottom line!

wim is ah cow c**t.

Romany further added that both parties were able to come to an agreement which will allow the technical staff to have access to national players on training days and international playing days, without severely disrupting the club schedule.
I distinctly remembered scant training sessions because clubs would not release players for duty. It seems that a change of personnel might have a positive impact in this regard. It is, admittedly, positive that efforts are being made to increase the level of cooperation between the National team and the League. But I don't believe your attacks on Wim are warranted.

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2008, 08:55:26 PM »
it all started the same way with Wim. Initial meetings went well....plans were drawn out on paper....yadda yadda yadda.

hopefully this one ends better.


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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2008, 09:15:11 PM »
Here we go again , everything is Wim fault!!!!!

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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2008, 10:03:55 PM »
All they need is to discover more Latapy likes.  Our midfeild talents are not being discovered at all

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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2008, 11:09:30 PM »
Here we go again , everything is Wim fault!!!!!

steups who saying everything is wim fault?

Allyuh head hard or what?

Wim getting blamed for alienating de Pro-League.

De man denigrate the league, the administrators, coaches and players.

he was ah hard head and very caustic, noone really wanted to work with the man.

That is what he getting blamed for..nutten else, well dat and he was ah goats ass!

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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2008, 11:49:23 AM »
lets not put the cart in front the horse...and correct me if im wrong, but the Uruguayan experts are coming to assess our pros and coach Matuarana will be wking cloosely with the pro league coaches, advising them what necessary preparation is needed to have players on their club...up to international level...This is excellent...i just dont see how it will develop our pros as some post suggested...I just think its more of a discovery project....looking for that new next talent....by the time players get to pro league they are peaking...however there will be those select few with that God given ability who can still improve further...i hope they find them...and even though the pro league is our highest level of local football...i hope the search is not only done there...lets have a Trinidad Idol....village by vilage...town by town....an open invitation for all footballers to showcase their ability....We must discover someone...must!!...and lets have the Uruguayan as the independent voice of reason....no Corneal influence...no local favoritism and nonsense...just picking the best..maybe it will work..maybe it wont..

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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2008, 11:56:30 AM »
lets not put the cart in front the horse...and correct me if im wrong, but the Uruguayan experts are coming to assess our pros and coach Matuarana will be wking cloosely with the pro league coaches, advising them what necessary preparation is needed to have players on their club...up to international level...This is excellent...i just dont see how it will develop our pros as some post suggested...I just think its more of a discovery project....looking for that new next talent....by the time players get to pro league they are peaking...however there will be those select few with that God given ability who can still improve further...i hope they find them...and even though the pro league is our highest level of local football...i hope the search is not only done there...lets have a Trinidad Idol....village by vilage...town by town....an open invitation for all footballers to showcase their ability....We must discover someone...must!!...and lets have the Uruguayan as the independent voice of reason....no Corneal influence...no local favoritism and nonsense...just picking the best..maybe it will work..maybe it wont..
I definitely agree with the part that is bolded....as we NEED to have the best interest of our game in gaining the most favorable outcome in the future.
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