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« on: April 22, 2008, 06:47:02 AM »

I was abused as a child’
BY ANDRE BAGOO Tuesday, April 22 2008

click on pic to zoom inTRINIDAD-born Nobel Lau-reate Sir VS Naipaul was sexually molested as a child by a male relative for years, a new authorised biography published this month reveals.

The child abuse, taking place intermittently over two to three years until Naipaul was ten, is recounted in the opening chapters of Patrick French’s biography The World Is What It Is. The biography, published by Picador in the United Kingdom this month and due to be published by Alfred A Knopf in the United States in November, was approved by Naipaul, 76, for publication without any changes to the text.

Naipaul is quoted in the book as stating that the molestation occurred in Trinidad shortly after 1940, when the Naipauls moved into a family commune in an old colonial house in Petit Valley along with members of their extended family. The family would later move to Luis Street, Woodbrook.

“Cool and shady, with savannah and plenty of snakes, Petit Valley was unfamiliar land,” French notes. Naipaul’s parents “were given a space in the servants’ quarters to the back of the house,” but all of the children slept in a separate area.

“The cousins—boys and girls—were not encouraged to associate with people who lived nearby,” and so, “there were no friends, only family.” It was in this setting that Naipaul’s first unwanted sexual encounter occurred. “The children made their own entertainment,” French notes wryly.

According to the biographer, Naipaul was “seduced by his cousin.” In an interview with Naipaul on July 25, 2002, Naipaul describes the encounter to French. “I was myself subjected to some sexual abuse by an older cousin. I was corrupted, I was assaulted. I was about six or seven. It was done in a sly, terrible way,” he says.

According to French, “molestation continued intermittently over the next two or three years, usually in the area where the boys slept.” “Vidia never mentioned it to anyone, at the time or later. He insisted he was never a willing participant,” French adds.

Naipaul, however, insists that the encounter did not affect his sexuality and said: “I never went through a period of liking the same sex.”

Later, Naipaul, who was honoured with the Trinity Cross, would pen several classics, including A House for Mr Biswas and In a Free State the latter of which features gay characters. In another interview with French on September 20, 2002, Naipaul says, “It was an outrage, but it was not a defining moment. I was very young. This thing was over before I was ten. I was always coerced. Of course he (the older cousin) was ashamed too later. It happened to other cousins.”

Naipaul suggested that child abuse is common: “I think it is part of Indian extended family life, which is an abomination in some ways, a can of worms…After an assault one is very ashamed—and then you realise it happens to almost everybody.”

All children are abused,” he states, adding, “All girls are molested at some stage. It is almost like a rite of passage.”

Yesterday, Naipaul’s sister Kamla Tewarie, 79, told Newsday that despite her close relationship with her brother, he never mentioned his childhood trauma to her. “I don’t know about this. Because if I did I would have been mad like hell. I would have been extremely annoyed. Nothing was told to me,” she said.

Tewarie said that she did not think the experience would have affected her brother’s later life.

“He’s not easily worried by something like that. If he writes something it’s quite honest. It rubs off him, it rubs off me myself,” she said. Naipaul’s child abuse is one of a string of revelations about his life in The World Is What It Is. His later relationship with his first wife, Patricia Ann Hale, is treated in depth as is his decades’ long sadomasochistic affair with Margaret Gooding, an Anglo-Argentinian. Of the latter relationship, French notes, “the affair was to be intense and intensely sexual… (Margaret) liked to be his slave and his victim… (Naipaul) had a mental dependence on both women: the ‘master’ in a masochistic relationship… (He) found himself unable, despite repeated efforts, to break away from either Margaret or Pat.”

How childhood abuse manifests itself in later life is a matter of how the individual deals with it, noted psychotherapist Camille Ojar-Franco yesterday. Ojar-Franco nonetheless pointed out that generally, such abuse affects an adult’s ability to trust persons around him and may fill that person with a lingering sense of shame.

Naipaul was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2001 “for having united perceptive narrative and incorruptible scrutiny in works that compel us to see the presence of suppressed histories.” Regarded by many as the finest writer of the English language, he is the author of more than two dozen works of fiction and non-fiction including Miguel Street, A Bend in the River, The Loss of El Dorado and Beyond Belief. His list of glittering literary accolades include: the Booker Prize, the David Cohen Prize for Literature, the John Llewellyn Rhys Prize, the Somerset Maugham Award as well as the Hawthornden Prize.

A Queen’s Royal College, Port-of-Spain graduate, he was awarded an island scholarship in 1949 and left for Oxford University in 1950. His first wife, Pat whom he met at Oxford and married in 1955 died in 1996. He married his second wife, Lady Nadira Naipaul, 55, that very year.

He has not lived in Trinidad for any extended length of time since leaving in 1950. Naipaul was honoured by the University of the West Indies last year.
 

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 08:00:36 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 10:16:19 AM »
Naipaul could haul he f**king ass.

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 10:20:40 AM »
Naipaul hadda be the most despised national award recipient ...

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 08:45:40 PM »
Guys,
           Most of these famous artists tend to be eccentric. There is some method to their madness. Thats what make their talent flow.  Maybe that is why they are famous. Naipaul is a great writer. Deep down, I think Naipaul loves TT, but TT is too small for him. he did all what he had to in TT already. There was nothing more that TT could offer to satisfy his drive.

Yes, he does not bigup TT like other famous people, but you can't take away the TT in him. Even now you can still hear his Trini accent. I have seem him on Tv giving interview and he does not have any strong Brit accent.  Look how long he left TT.

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2008, 09:03:51 PM »
Guys,
           Most of these famous artists tend to be eccentric. There is some method to their madness. Thats what make their talent flow.  Maybe that is why they are famous. Naipaul is a great writer. Deep down, I think Naipaul loves TT, but TT is too small for him. he did all what he had to in TT already. There was nothing more that TT could offer to satisfy his drive.

Yes, he does not bigup TT like other famous people, but you can't take away the TT in him. Even now you can still hear his Trini accent. I have seem him on Tv giving interview and he does not have any strong Brit accent.  Look how long he left TT.

Eccentric??  Not bigging up TnT?

Whey you been?? The man DISAVOWED TnT....he has made it known that he is British first, Indian second...and everything else afterwards.



Oh yeah, btw....it just so happens he was born on this small insignificant, nondescript island call Trinidad, but doh concern allyuh self with that.



Let him haul he muddac**t.

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 04:55:04 AM »
Naipaul hadda be the most despised national award recipient ...

Naipaul should get another T&T National Award.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 05:27:21 AM »
Guys,
           Most of these famous artists tend to be eccentric. There is some method to their madness. Thats what make their talent flow.  Maybe that is why they are famous. Naipaul is a great writer. Deep down, I think Naipaul loves TT, but TT is too small for him. he did all what he had to in TT already. There was nothing more that TT could offer to satisfy his drive.

Yes, he does not bigup TT like other famous people, but you can't take away the TT in him. Even now you can still hear his Trini accent. I have seem him on Tv giving interview and he does not have any strong Brit accent.  Look how long he left TT.

Eccentric??  Not bigging up TnT?

Whey you been?? The man DISAVOWED TnT....he has made it known that he is British first, Indian second...and everything else afterwards.



Oh yeah, btw....it just so happens he was born on this small insignificant, nondescript island call Trinidad, but doh concern allyuh self with that.



Let him haul he muddac**t.

Exactly. And the setting used for a good portion of his literary work was Trinidad. He does just upset me. He got the best of what ever little we had at the time...and then he identifying himself as English First....Indian Second? Steups.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 08:14:42 AM »
Naipaul could haul he f**king ass.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 08:18:28 AM »
loved most of his books from a liuterary perspective, i  eh rally care what his persoal views are about trini..... personally. it have enough people who claim to ove trini and f**kin it over off ah greed, if someone makes me look at trini critically then i find dais god.

loved sam selvon more. Although he use to criticize trini also..his work still had a hopeful tone. Despite our problems etc etc.....

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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 08:42:12 AM »
loved most of his books from a liuterary perspective, i  eh rally care what his persoal views are about trini..... personally. it have enough people who claim to ove trini and f**kin it over off ah greed, if someone makes me look at trini critically then i find dais god.

loved sam selvon more. Although he use to criticize trini also..his work still had a hopeful tone. Despite our problems etc etc.....



ah feel I go write a book for VS..I go call it " AH Bull for Mr Naipaul...ooops he done get dat already!

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 09:15:56 AM »


anyone familiar with Neil Bissoondath??

Neil Devindra Bissoondath (born April 19, 1955 in Arima, Trinidad and Tobago) is a Canadian author who lives in Ste-Foy, Quebec. He is a noted writer of fiction, and also an outspoken critic of Canada's system of multiculturalism. He is the nephew of authors V.S. Naipaul and Shiva Naipaul.

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    * Digging Up Mountains - 1987
    * "Im Not Racist, But..." - 1989
    * A Casual Brutality - 1989
    * On the Eve of Uncertain Tomorrows - 1991
    * The Innocence of Age - 1993
    * Selling Illusions: The Cult of Multiculturalism in Canada 1994
    * The Worlds Within Her - 1999 (Nominated for a Governor General's Award)
    * Doing the Heart Good - 2002
    * The Unyielding Clamour of the Night - 2005

I have seen him on TV and from all appearance, he does not seem to embrace his Trinidadian roots ...  and look, he related to VS Naipaul
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 09:24:02 AM »
So de indian man who born in trinidad (arima no less) living in de french people place and do not like multiculturalism.....anyone say slow boat to Goa.........maybe he ahd a bad experince(s) growing up in arima..lol

anyways...
Micheal Anthony another really good trinidadian author.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 09:31:38 AM »
Naipaul has so little respect for his homeland...pity. I like his work but when he opens his mouth I am disappointed.
T&T is not perfect, but to claim to be English - a land that decimated most of the known world...T&T appears to be idyllic in its history in comparison.

He is a poor ambassador.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 09:59:12 AM »
Naipaul has so little respect for his homeland...pity. I like his work but when he opens his mouth I am disappointed.
T&T is not perfect, but to claim to be English - a land that decimated most of the known world...T&T appears to be idyllic in its history in comparison.

He is a poor ambassador.

nah, yuh wrong queenis hs is not a poor ambassador, he is ah damn sour old fart.

He deserve ah damn good calpet and if I had meh way, ah woulda ban he from T&T.


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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2008, 10:03:30 AM »
He deserve ah damn good calpet and if I had meh way, ah woulda ban he from T&T.
I thought ya wanted to ban Wim :devil:
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2008, 10:04:23 AM »
He deserve ah damn good calpet and if I had meh way, ah woulda ban he from T&T.
I thought ya wanted to ban Wim :devil:

I want wim sit dong onder a coconut tree in ah very high wind.

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2008, 10:05:58 AM »
He deserve ah damn good calpet and if I had meh way, ah woulda ban he from T&T.
I thought ya wanted to ban Wim :devil:

I want wim sit dong onder a coconut tree in ah very high wind.

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 10:58:39 AM »

ent Naipaul was born a British citizen?

I doh care too much about his distancing from us....he grow up here as a teenager and then left.  and it didn't have as much communication and connection with home then so probably was easy to just assimilate.
takes all types....he is representative of a large number of emigrants...especially from that era.  Like how many people left here back in the day when they had the choice to take up British citizenship....home is a new place and trinidad a distant memory. 

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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 11:44:35 AM »
Exactly. And the setting used for a good portion of his literary work was Trinidad. He does just upset me. He got the best of what ever little we had at the time...and then he identifying himself as English First....Indian Second? Steups.

Di'n he win ah island scholarship to go study in England too?  If I correct we pay fuh he education and now dat he reach de facker wha' turn 'rung and fack we up like we eh nutten.



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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2008, 11:52:51 AM »

ent Naipaul was born a British citizen?

I doh care too much about his distancing from us....he grow up here as a teenager and then left.  and it didn't have as much communication and connection with home then so probably was easy to just assimilate.
takes all types....he is representative of a large number of emigrants...especially from that era.  Like how many people left here back in the day when they had the choice to take up British citizenship....home is a new place and trinidad a distant memory. 

leh meh remind yuh of a popular kaiso called Trini tuh de bone

Distant memory?  cyar be ah distant memory if he only mentioned we in ha bad light..leh he haul he c**t....ah feel de f**ker racist

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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 04:02:04 PM »
Yeah I ain't buying that distant memory thing neither. As Bourbon correctly stated most of his best work was set in Trinidad. He chose to forget Trinidad. His literary genius doesn't give him an excuse to proverbially shit on the flag.

Regarding the abuse,if it's true I think it is tragic that he had to experience that. 


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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 05:35:05 PM »
I cyan stand him either but lord have mercy i never see so much hate for one man in a thread dealing with his tragedy that is no fault of his own...

Maybe the abuse helped to condition his view of Trinidad  :-\
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2008, 05:36:53 PM »
When exactly he start getting heat from Trinis?  I think he said something when he won the nobel...didn't read all his books so i not sure if is based on that.
When he was here last year he say is a big misunderstanding...lol
don't really care....just another one of many who leave and don't have good things to say bout home...usually based on bad experiences (even though he claim he is misunderstood...or was it his wife say that?)
for some reason jus cool come to mind...at least when he had now come and was explaining his signature

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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2008, 06:32:21 PM »
What a piece of work this guy is....more from his biography

My cruelty killed first wife: V S Naipaul    
 
Friday, 21 March , 2008, 19:13 
 
London: Nobel Prize-winning writer Sir V S Naipaul says the mental cruelty he inflicted on his first wife may have contributed to her death, according to a new biography quoted by a British newspaper Friday.

 
Naipaul, 75, tormented his first wife Patricia for four decades, visited prostitutes and had an extra-marital affair for 24 years, the biography by Patrick French says.

The Daily Telegraph, which is to serialise the book, said that although Patricia knew of Naipaul's affair with his love Margaret Gooding, it was his disclosure about visits to prostitutes that finally killed her.

According to Patrick French, Patricia learnt that her husband regularly saw prostitutes in London after he boasted about it in a magazine interview in 1994. She had just had a mastectomy and was in remission from cancer.

She found the disclosure so abhorrent that it sent her rapidly downhill and she died in 1996, says French.

Naipaul admits in the biography, titled The World Is What It Is: "I think that consumed her. I think she had all the relapses and everything after that. She suffered. It could be said that I killed her. It could be said. I feel a little bit that way."

Patricia and Naipaul, who met at Oxford, were married in 1955. He ended his affair with the married Margaret Gooding as Patricia lay dying.

A day after her funeral, Naipaul "welcomed into his home" a Pakistani journalist, Nadira Khannum Alvi, and married her two months later, the newspaper reported.

French, a well-known writer on India and Tibet, was given free access to all of Naipaul's papers and is the first person to read Patricia's 24 volumes of diaries, kept under lock and key at the University of Tulsa since Naipaul sold his archive for $620,000.
 
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2008, 06:39:30 PM »
A day after her funeral, Naipaul "welcomed into his home" a Pakistani journalist, Nadira Khannum Alvi, and married her two months later, the newspaper reported.

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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2008, 06:47:53 PM »
I cyan stand him either but lord have mercy i never see so much hate for one man in a thread dealing with his tragedy that is no fault of his own...

Maybe the abuse helped to condition his view of Trinidad  :-\

For me, there's no hate for Naipaul. I don't know the man and can't hate someone I do not know. It's hard enough for me to hate people I do know...
But there seems to be at least one screw loose here that can't simply be ascribed to his eccentricity. If he was abused, I am sorry to hear. That should happen to no child. But here he is saying it happens to all Indian children in Trinidad. How crazy is that? Is he just trying to sell books?

The bridge crossed has been damned soundly and publicly. He speaks about my country of birth so I take offence, especially when he applauds another that is mired in age old blood.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2008, 07:01:06 PM »
I cyan stand him either but lord have mercy i never see so much hate for one man in a thread dealing with his tragedy that is no fault of his own...

Maybe the abuse helped to condition his view of Trinidad  :-\

I'm sure you use it figuratively...but there isn't a single person on God's green earth that I 'hate'.  Truth be told I won't even invest as much emotion in the man as to despise him.  I would have harsh words for anyone speaking ill of my country as QM said, that it is one of our own biting the hand that fed him means that his words/actions only cut deeper.  England can have him...but fack him all the same.

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2008, 07:04:43 PM »
A fine Englishman indeed.

http://www.usp.nus.edu.sg/post/caribbean/naipaul/meena.html

Naipaul is kind of like Mike Tyson....great at one specific thing, but an utter failure as a human being. Like most people possesed of a single standout talent he had neither the integrity nor intelligence to overcome the damning consequences of that single talent.
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