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Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« on: May 20, 2008, 07:39:57 PM »
Cloud hangs over England match.
TTFF heading to court.
By: Francis Joseph (Guardian).


The international friendly dubbed A Score to Settle between T&T and England scheduled for June 1 is now in jeopardy. This is because of a new dispute between the Minister of Sport Gary Hunt and the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) over the use of the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

The Minister of Sport has submitted a new draft lease agreement for the use of the stadium. But this has not gone down well with the TTFF, who insists there was a binding agreement made on March 15 that the TTFF used to negotiate for the June 1 encounter with the English Football Association (FA).

Lawyers acting for the TTFF have given the Minister of Sport until Friday morning to resolve this matter, failing which they intend to take the matter to the High Court to seek injunctive relief.

The cancellation of the T&T vs England match could also lead to legal action being taken by the English FA for losses incurred, sources said last night.

The match was organised to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the TTFF, and the healing of wounds between FIFA vice president Jack Warner and the English FA over comments made last year.

‘Same terms’

Om Lalla, attorney for the TTFF, in a three-page letter to the Minister of Sport yesterday pointed out that his client approached the Ministry by letter dated February 18 requesting the use of the stadium for the England match.

Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

The Guardian was informed that, in recent years, the TTFF was called upon to pay a rental of $3,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gate receipts, whichever sum was greater, plus $2,000 and VAT for electricity.

Having received oral confirmation, Groden entered into an agreement on behalf of the TTFF with the English FA on March 17 for the hosting of the game at the stadium.

According to Lalla, the terms and conditions of the agreement dealt with the use of the stadium for the purposes of advertising, tickets and access.

He said the TTFF also hosted officials of the English FA to the stadium in March and conducted an examination of the facility.

Lalla, in his letter, said the TTFF sent a letter dated April 12 requesting a waiver of the fees agreed to in March for the use of the stadium. He said the local federation withdrew the request by letter dated May 5 due to a lack of co-operation from the Minister.

‘Markedly different’

Lalla said the TTFF executive was shocked to receive a draft lease agreement from Stephen on May 15. He said the draft lease agreement contained terms and conditions that were markedly different to those agreed upon at previous meetings.

The Ministry of Sport, in a media release yesterday, said among the conditions contained in the draft lease agreement were:

n a rental sum of $150,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gross gate receipts, whichever sum was greater;

n a refundable deposit of $45,000 towards damage;

n provision of advertising space, at a cost, within the television arc; and,

n prohibition of alcohol and tobacco advertising.

Lalla said Groden sent off a letter yesterday to the Minister seeking an urgent determination of this matter. The TTFF attorney reminded Hunt that the contract entered between the parties on March 15, was binding.

“To renege therefrom would amount not only to a breach of contract, but will have serious consequences of loss, embarrassment and liability to my client,” he said.

“My client agreed to use the facilities of the national stadium solely on the basis of the agreement entered into on or about the 15th of March 2008.

“This 11th-hour draft release, which does not reflect the agreement between your Ministry and our client, with less than ten days before the scheduled game, is not only disingenuous, but will cause irreparable damage to the reputation of the TTFF and subject each and every citizen of T&T to shame and humiliation and will result in a breach of contract with the English FA and may result in a cancellation of the match.”

Lalla said the TTFF advertised and sold tickets locally and internationally for the match.

The Port-of-Spain attorney reminded Hunt that the match was scheduled to be televised worldwide.

“As a consequence, it is imperative that personal and political differences are buried at this crucial hour and the joint efforts of your Ministry and our client are mobilised in the national interest,” Lalla wrote.

Ban on alcohol ads baffles Carib

Colin Murray, sponsorship and events manager at Carib, said his company had entered into an agreement with the TTFF for billboard and other advertising at the stadium.

As the official beer of the match, Murray said Carib had no agreement with the Ministry of Sport.

He could not understand the prohibition of alcohol advertising at the stadium, saying Heineken and Carling featured prominently in the English Premiership, while other alcohol companies were main sponsors for sport around the world.

Warner: No more matches at stadium

FIFA vice president Jack Warner said last night the T&T-England match on June 1 would be the last international game at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Commenting on the sudden increase in rental at the stadium, Warner said Minister of Sport Gary Hunt wanted to put his back to the wall, “but he cannot do that; I am going after him, mark my words.”

Warner said the last sports minister Roger Boynes had waived the fees at the stadium for the World Cup qualifying matches for the 2006 campaign.

“Look at what this minister has done,” Warner said.

“He has asked for a rental of $150,000 or ten per cent of the gate receipts.

“This match is costing us $15 million. We have sold $7.8 million in tickets, that means he wants $780,000 for the rental of the stadium.

“Where is the rest of the money going to come from?”

Warner said the Ministry was charging $10,000 for each of the 32 advertising billboards within the television arc and $5,000 for other advertising.

“We agreed for the English FA to come with six boards, what are we to do now?” he asked.
England/T&T match in jeopardy.
By: Ria Taitt Political Editor (Express).
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Football furore

"That is the most vindictive minister ever, and he shall pay," FIFA jefe and UNC-A boss Jack Warner fumed last night as he referred to Sports Minister Gary Hunt.

Politics reared its divisive head in sports, as Warner admitted that the Trinidad versus England centennial football match scheduled for June 1 was now in jeopardy because Hunt had imposed new "onerous conditions" for use of the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Warner, who is challenging these new conditions, stated: I will file the injunction on Friday morning at 9 a.m. if the Minister does not retract his onerous conditions. And if I win, the match is on. If I don't, it's off. We would have to give back people their money," he said.

"This is the same Minister who has refused to sign an arrangement with FIFA that will allow us to host in 2010 the FIFA Under-17 Women World Cup. And FIFA is giving us $10 million to help us. And all they are asking is that the Government allows whatever team qualifies for the final to get visas to come into the country, and to provide security and safety. And the Minister refuse to sign. On Monday I have to be in Sydney to apologise to the entire FIFA that this country would no longer host the Women's Under-17," an indignant Warner stated.

"Never has an evil been perpetrated on a country in the field of sport and more so football, than this present Minister of Sport. And for me, enough is enough!"

Warner said he had been given the (Queen's Park) Oval free of charge for the football game. "And they were even putting up lights for me," he said.

"The general council of the Football Federation begged me not to go there, but to go in the stadium since it is a Government facility. I said 'okay'. So I left the Oval and its 16,000 seats and went to the Stadium," Warner said.

"I made the biggest sporting mistake of my life," he declared.

He said even if he were to go in the Oval now, "the fact is that we have sold 23,000 tickets and the Oval can't hold 23,000 people. And the Minister knows that. So he believes that he has us over a barrel. But I would prefer to refund the people the money and lose, than to accept the Minister's conditions (for use of the Stadium)."

Warner said "what was really bad" was that Prime Minister Patrick Manning was aware of all of this, since he wrote him on the issue. "Nothing has been done," Warner said.

Warner said he even went to see His Excellency Prof George Maxwell Richards on Monday on the issue.

Warner said however that he had learnt after his experience in China during the earthquake, that "nothing in life is more important than relationships, values, love and friendship. And I will not allow the Minister to make me a bitter person".

Hunt could not be reached for comment last night, but the Express learned that the ministry is aware of the T&TFF's letter and is expected to respond to it today.
T&TFF to contest 'new' stadium agreement.
By: Kern De Freitas (Express).
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Ten days before the highly-anticipated friendly international football clash between Trinidad and Tobago and England, the encounter is hanging in the balance.

Yesterday, the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) handed Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs, Gary Hunt, an ultimatum to withdraw the rental "agreement" for the Hasely Crawford Stadium or face legal action.

This came mere hours after the Ministry disclosed that it would cost the T&TFF nearly $200,000 for use of the stadium for the June 1 match.

But the T&TFF's attorney, Om Lalla, has given the ministry until 9 a.m. on Friday to "indicate" whether it is "prepared to honour the terms of the agreement of the 15th March 2008", before legal proceedings are initiated.

Lalla referred to a document sent by the ministry as an "eleventh hour draft lease", saying it "will cause irreparable damage to reputation of the TTFF and subject each and every citizen of Trinidad and Tobago to shame and humiliation, and will result in a breach of contract with the English FA and may result in a cancellation of the match".

The issue surfaced after the ministry issued a media release outlining the various costs associated with the rental agreement, including: $150,000 plus VAT, or ten per cent of the gross gate receipts-depending on which is larger-a refundable deposit of $45,000 towards damages and costs associated with provision of advertising space, among other conditions.

But the T&TFF, through its lawyer, feel the agreement "does not reflect the agreement between your ministry and our client".

The letter, issued by Lalla, further expounded on this earlier agreement, said to have taken place during a March 15 meeting between T&TFF general secretary Richard Groden and stadium manager Wilfred Stevens.

"I am instructed to request from you a declaration that the contract entered into on or about 15th March 2008 and the oral representations made between the TTFF and yourself are binding, and to renege therefrom would amount not only to a breach of contract but will have serious consequences of loss, embarrassment and liability to my client," Lalla advised.

The T&TFF's statement also added that negotiations with the English Football Association (FA) and television rights, among others, had already been completed. Failure to deliver on any of these areas could lead in a legal backlash and embarrassment for the local football governing body. Lalla said he hoped to resolve the matter before the match, which is sold out.
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Re: Cloud hangs over England match .. TTFF heading to court
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 08:11:34 PM »

Hunt will get to talk to plenty BBC journalist now....start the papyshow.

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 08:24:14 PM »
Wait.
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Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

The Guardian was informed that, in recent years, the TTFF was called upon to pay a rental of $3,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gate receipts, whichever sum was greater, plus $2,000 and VAT for electricity.

Having received oral confirmation, Groden entered into an agreement on behalf of the TTFF with the English FA on March 17 for the hosting of the game at the stadium.

How dat part in bold compares to this?

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Lalla said the TTFF executive was shocked to receive a draft lease agreement from Stephen on May 15. He said the draft lease agreement contained terms and conditions that were markedly different to those agreed upon at previous meetings.

The Ministry of Sport, in a media release yesterday, said among the conditions contained in the draft lease agreement were:

n a rental sum of $150,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gross gate receipts, whichever sum was greater;

n a refundable deposit of $45,000 towards damage;

n provision of advertising space, at a cost, within the television arc; and,

n prohibition of alcohol and tobacco advertising.


The only difference is the amount of money involved. In both cases 10% of the gate receipts is the rental fee. So what is the TTFF's grouse...really? This seems more and more like a smokescreen for the arbitration issue.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 08:26:15 PM »
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Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

The Guardian was informed that, in recent years, the TTFF was called upon to pay a rental of $3,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gate receipts, whichever sum was greater, plus $2,000 and VAT for electricity.

Having received oral confirmation, Groden entered into an agreement on behalf of the TTFF with the English FA on March 17 for the hosting of the game at the stadium.

How dat part in bold compares to this?

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Lalla said the TTFF executive was shocked to receive a draft lease agreement from Stephen on May 15. He said the draft lease agreement contained terms and conditions that were markedly different to those agreed upon at previous meetings.

The Ministry of Sport, in a media release yesterday, said among the conditions contained in the draft lease agreement were:

n a rental sum of $150,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gross gate receipts, whichever sum was greater;

n a refundable deposit of $45,000 towards damage;

n provision of advertising space, at a cost, within the television arc; and,

n prohibition of alcohol and tobacco advertising.


The only difference is the amount of money involved. In both cases 10% of the gate receipts is the rental fee. So what is the TTFF's grouse...really? This seems more and more like a smokescreen for the arbitration issue.

the rental fee, d non advertisement of alcohol, d extra cost of billboard space...etc etc etc...


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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 08:31:37 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 08:36:44 PM »
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Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

The Guardian was informed that, in recent years, the TTFF was called upon to pay a rental of $3,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gate receipts, whichever sum was greater, plus $2,000 and VAT for electricity.

Having received oral confirmation, Groden entered into an agreement on behalf of the TTFF with the English FA on March 17 for the hosting of the game at the stadium.

How dat part in bold compares to this?

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Lalla said the TTFF executive was shocked to receive a draft lease agreement from Stephen on May 15. He said the draft lease agreement contained terms and conditions that were markedly different to those agreed upon at previous meetings.

The Ministry of Sport, in a media release yesterday, said among the conditions contained in the draft lease agreement were:

n a rental sum of $150,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gross gate receipts, whichever sum was greater;

n a refundable deposit of $45,000 towards damage;

n provision of advertising space, at a cost, within the television arc; and,

n prohibition of alcohol and tobacco advertising.


The only difference is the amount of money involved. In both cases 10% of the gate receipts is the rental fee. So what is the TTFF's grouse...really? This seems more and more like a smokescreen for the arbitration issue.

the rental fee, d non advertisement of alcohol, d extra cost of billboard space...etc etc etc...




The rental fee now is 150,000 or 10% of gate returns. Either way...the 10% is there. And from the calculated income from gate receipts, the 150,000 wouldnt be the cost, it would be the 10%. Advertising of alcohol......the ministry of sports has made it a point to eliminate companies that sell tobacco or alcohol in relation to sporting events. Remember WITCO was the sponsor of the Sportsman and Sportswoman of the year previously, and then due to this measure, FCB took it over. The English FA has a major role to play in terms of advertisement, and as such the TTFF would be gaining income. So the Sports Ministry simply trying to make as much as possible.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 08:40:37 PM »
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Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

The Guardian was informed that, in recent years, the TTFF was called upon to pay a rental of $3,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gate receipts, whichever sum was greater, plus $2,000 and VAT for electricity.

Having received oral confirmation, Groden entered into an agreement on behalf of the TTFF with the English FA on March 17 for the hosting of the game at the stadium.

How dat part in bold compares to this?

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Lalla said the TTFF executive was shocked to receive a draft lease agreement from Stephen on May 15. He said the draft lease agreement contained terms and conditions that were markedly different to those agreed upon at previous meetings.

The Ministry of Sport, in a media release yesterday, said among the conditions contained in the draft lease agreement were:

n a rental sum of $150,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gross gate receipts, whichever sum was greater;

n a refundable deposit of $45,000 towards damage;

n provision of advertising space, at a cost, within the television arc; and,

n prohibition of alcohol and tobacco advertising.


The only difference is the amount of money involved. In both cases 10% of the gate receipts is the rental fee. So what is the TTFF's grouse...really? This seems more and more like a smokescreen for the arbitration issue.

the rental fee, d non advertisement of alcohol, d extra cost of billboard space...etc etc etc...




The rental fee now is 150,000 or 10% of gate returns. Either way...the 10% is there. And from the calculated income from gate receipts, the 150,000 wouldnt be the cost, it would be the 10%. Advertising of alcohol......the ministry of sports has made it a point to eliminate companies that sell tobacco or alcohol in relation to sporting events. Remember WITCO was the sponsor of the Sportsman and Sportswoman of the year previously, and then due to this measure, FCB took it over. The English FA has a major role to play in terms of advertisement, and as such the TTFF would be gaining income. So the Sports Ministry simply trying to make as much as possible.


again...my big issue is 10 days before d game??????
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 08:46:10 PM »
The rental fee now is 150,000 or 10% of gate returns. Either way...the 10% is there. And from the calculated income from gate receipts, the 150,000 wouldnt be the cost, it would be the 10%. Advertising of alcohol......the ministry of sports has made it a point to eliminate companies that sell tobacco or alcohol in relation to sporting events. Remember WITCO was the sponsor of the Sportsman and Sportswoman of the year previously, and then due to this measure, FCB took it over. The English FA has a major role to play in terms of advertisement, and as such the TTFF would be gaining income. So the Sports Ministry simply trying to make as much as possible.

I seeing people referring to some change in the agreement relative to advertisement...the government made no such change.  The agreement as put forth by the government discusses the provision of advertising space "within the television arc".  I'm not wholly clear what that means, but I fail to see that as meaning that the gov't is trying to extort more money out of the arrangement.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 08:46:53 PM »
again...my big issue is 10 days before d game??????

Should they wait until after the game?

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 09:19:27 PM »
again...my big issue is 10 days before d game??????

Should they wait until after the game?

Exactly. When else should this be done?

The rental fee now is 150,000 or 10% of gate returns. Either way...the 10% is there. And from the calculated income from gate receipts, the 150,000 wouldnt be the cost, it would be the 10%. Advertising of alcohol......the ministry of sports has made it a point to eliminate companies that sell tobacco or alcohol in relation to sporting events. Remember WITCO was the sponsor of the Sportsman and Sportswoman of the year previously, and then due to this measure, FCB took it over. The English FA has a major role to play in terms of advertisement, and as such the TTFF would be gaining income. So the Sports Ministry simply trying to make as much as possible.

I seeing people referring to some change in the agreement relative to advertisement...the government made no such change.  The agreement as put forth by the government discusses the provision of advertising space "within the television arc".  I'm not wholly clear what that means, but I fail to see that as meaning that the gov't is trying to extort more money out of the arrangement.

I dunno if i missed it but i cant remember reading anything about advertising in the previous arrangement. If this is a new addition it still applicable and merited, and in the spirit of any business agreement, one would be expected to try to make as much money as possible. I not seeing it as extortion.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 09:24:55 PM »
A new sheriff in town who understands buziness so d nonesense JW got away wit Boynes etc is a ting of d pass
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 09:27:59 PM »
So where d hell we go see game now, if jack want to leave HCS. Oval? naaaaaaahhhhhh
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 09:31:14 PM »
Oval hope not just tryin 2 control d news wit dis red hearring
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 09:49:21 PM »
I agree that ten days before the game may not be the best timing but then again, this si the same TTFF that wanted the government to improve the HCS pitch and yet expects to contribute nothing towards the upkeep, but will criticize the condition of the stadium facilities. It's simply a case of TTFF not wanting to contribute to the condition of the HCS, but instead walk away smiling. Then in July yu will hear the TTFF accusing the government of not assisting with their expenses and JW having to pay Maturana out of he pocket. Imagine the cost BBC paying for worldwide tv rights from the holder of the rights. Somebody trying to recoup general elections expenses.

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2008, 09:55:32 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2008, 10:03:36 PM »
BBC know we is a bunch of jokers
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 01:36:10 AM »
Whamp whamp whamp whamp wwhhhaaaammmmpp..............  didn't i tell allyuh ah long time ago that they are bobtail monkeys withn no shame.




PS:  all who was bigging up the TTFF for a job well done on the ticketing, ah guess yuh talk way too fast. dat game go play right in the stadium.

too much money involved.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 02:55:14 AM »
The Guardian was informed that, in recent years, the TTFF was called upon to pay a rental of $3,000 plus VAT or ten per cent of the gate receipts, whichever sum was greater, plus $2,000 and VAT for electricity.

that is madness if  I had known this I would have book the stadium for a fete match ! dat is only $178 for a two teams of 14 !
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 03:24:19 AM »
Ah guess i talk too fast meh self, Check out this article!!! look like the game really hanging by ah thin thread. allyuh see how dogone bad mind, stuborn and disruptive our ppl are.

that's why the western powers will allways run things in the world, BC them men doh flex so petty. jackular is a lot of things, but that minister is ah bonified battyhole for pulling ah last minuite stunt like that, knowing is the public he will be really distressing and not jack.

 jack doh need this game, this is chump change for jack.

 is things like this that does make meh want to stay away from T&T football.   sssttuuueeepppsss.

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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2008, 04:23:16 AM »
If the Govt goes ahead with this, then they are the worst Govt in the histroy of Trinidad and Tobago!!

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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2008, 04:31:27 AM »
I dont understand why people fighting down the Government so much ................as much as I hate to say it, I dont believe they have done that much wrong the only thing I can see changed is the advertising aspect as it was still 10% before and after ?

Imagine Jack actually wrote a letter to get the $5,000 fee waived !
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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2008, 04:43:54 AM »
Imagine Jack actually wrote a letter to get the $5,000 fee waived !
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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2008, 04:52:58 AM »

“This match is costing us $15 million. We have sold $7.8 million in tickets, that means he wants $780,000 for the rental of the stadium.

hhhhhhhmmmmmm......ah think ah missing something......

($1200 x 1000) + ($600 x 4150) + ($300 x 18040) = $9,102,000.00

uuuuuhhhh.....accounting TTFF style again perhaps... ??? :-\
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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2008, 05:00:29 AM »

“This match is costing us $15 million. We have sold $7.8 million in tickets, that means he wants $780,000 for the rental of the stadium.

hhhhhhhmmmmmm......ah think ah missing something......

($1200 x 1000) + ($600 x 4150) + ($300 x 18040) = $9,102,000.00

uuuuuhhhh.....accounting TTFF style again perhaps... ??? :-\

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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 05:02:48 AM »

“This match is costing us $15 million. We have sold $7.8 million in tickets, that means he wants $780,000 for the rental of the stadium.

hhhhhhhmmmmmm......ah think ah missing something......

($1200 x 1000) + ($600 x 4150) + ($300 x 18040) = $9,102,000.00

uuuuuhhhh.....accounting TTFF style again perhaps... ??? :-\
doh forget to deduct de block of tickets to appease the English after his cocamamy statements
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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2008, 05:20:50 AM »
Jackula goh be on I95.5fm to give he side ah de story at 9 am.....poor Jackula....dat big bad Gary Hunt just doh like yuh....oh oh....poor you.... :devil:

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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2008, 05:22:35 AM »
all i can say is receipts ......check......tickets ..........check. i inside anyway they want the axe to fall
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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2008, 05:28:01 AM »
Jackula goh be on I95.5fm to give he side ah de story at 9 am.....poor Jackula....dat big bad Gary Hunt just doh like yuh....oh oh....poor you.... :devil:
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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2008, 06:05:05 AM »
‘Same terms’

Om Lalla, attorney for the TTFF, in a three-page letter to the Minister of Sport yesterday pointed out that his client approached the Ministry by letter dated February 18 requesting the use of the stadium for the England match.

Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

If this is true then the TTFF supposed to win the injunction.

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Re: Cloud hangs over T&T/England match.
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2008, 06:16:20 AM »
‘Same terms’

Om Lalla, attorney for the TTFF, in a three-page letter to the Minister of Sport yesterday pointed out that his client approached the Ministry by letter dated February 18 requesting the use of the stadium for the England match.

Lalla said a written response, dated March 11, was received from stadium manager Wilfred Stephen agreeing to the use of the facilities subject to the rescheduling of certain events at the stadium.

The TTFF, he added, was also informed that the rental charges would be forwarded at a later date.

TTFF general secretary Richard Groden met with Stephen on March 15 when it was agreed that the stadium was available for use by the TTFF and the only issue to be agreed upon was the rental cost.

Lalla said Stephen agreed that the terms of the rental of the stadium would be the same terms on which the TTFF had rented the stadium over the past 20 years for national and international matches.

If this is true then the TTFF supposed to win the injunction.

Same terms i.e. a fixed fee or 10% of gate receipts which ever is greater. Previously the fixed fee was 2000....now its 150000. But that wont be the issue...cause according to the TTFF they sold 7.8 Million in tickets.....but according to estimates here that value should be more like 9.1 Million in tickets. So....its a moot point...because the previous and the current terms are the same...i.e. 10% of gate receipts.
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