Which Trinidadian scored against Arsenal in 1965?

[E-man]

Which Trinidadian scored against Arsenal in Jamaica in 1965?

Bonus: Who was the keeper he scored on?

Extra Bonus: What half did he score in?

[Sam]

Ron La Forest.

2-1 at the half...

But Pat Small and Alvin Corneal was there too.... hhmmm...

[E-man]

Ron La Forest.

2-1 at the half...

But Pat Small and Alvin Corneal was there too.... hhmmm...

Incorrect.. This is the first game they played in Jamaica in question.

Although the halftime score is correct. Alvin was there, Pat was not (in fact LaForest was not there either.)

[Deeks]

Ron is not that old!!!

[E-man]

[GunnerStunner]

ways

i never knew this happened will have to email the arsenal website for details

[GunnerStunner]

Which Trinidadian scored against Arsenal in Jamaica in 1965?

Bonus: Who was the keeper he scored on?

Extra Bonus: What half did he score in?

side note yorke socred a hatrick at highbury the year manu won the treble i think

[Deeks]

What is the answer?

[E-man]

What is the answer?

I'll lead up to it. Give people more chances to guess. What happened at this festival is Trinidad played Arsenal first. The T&T met Jamaica who had signed up a Brazilain coach, Jorge Penna, who introduced the 4-2-4 where you had 4 forwards, 2 "linkmen" and 4 defenders. Trinidad was still playing the archaic 2-3-5 and lost pretty bad.

Then Jamaica played Arsenal, all hell broke loose and the ref blew off the match before half time.


Ten Arsenal players, officials here
Source: Jamaica Gleaner, page 12
Date Published: 1965-08-01

Seven footballers and three officials from the Arsenal Football club arrived in the island yesterday afternoon in the first group of Arsenal players who will be here for the Independence Football Festival at the National Stadium this Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

The rest of the Arsenal team is expected in the island this afternoon at 1.30.

Players who came in yesterday were Ian Ure, Joe Baker, Alan Skirton, Don Howe, Jon Sammels, Bob Wilson and Peter Storey.

The players were accompanied by manager of Arsenal Billy Wright and directors S. C. McIntyre and P. Hillwood.

On their arrival they were met by representatives of the Jaycees organizers of the tour, Mr. Gene McDonald of Martins Tours and Mr. Bunny McLean, representing Lig-Mona, promoters of the tour. The Festival is being sponsored by Frank Wilson.

Sports Editor's Diary
Source: Jamaica Gleaner, page 12
Date Published: 1965-08-01
Author: Keith Brown

The famed 'Gunners'

On Tuesday night, Jamaica soccer fans will see a team with one of the richest and most colourful histories, Arsenal, a team whose play, as bright as their crimson jerseys, made them one of the legendary teams in world soccer in that memorable period in the 1930s and 1940s.

I remember vividly reading of the famed "Gunners of Highbury" who crushed everything in their path. Names like "Juggler" James, the genius among artists in Arsenal's classic ball-playing days, the majestic Bernard Joy, a master tactician who was the rage in Arenal's days of methodically ruthless soccer and left winger Cliff Bastin who played for England at 16, still linger in memory.

Today, Arsenal, understandably, is no longer a fantastic team, but the Arsenal legend lives on and thousands of Jamaicans are certain to be at the Stadium on Tuesday night to see the "Gunners" fire away.

They won't be disappointed. I wasn't when I watched them for 90 minutes at Highbury last year. Today they have no James, Joys, or Bastins, but they have Ian Ure, George Eastham and Joe Baker. Ure, tall blonde and brilliant in the air, a fine long kicker; Eastham, a high calibre thinker, who unobtrusively rips a defence open and Baker, a dynamic goalgetter who has thrilled hard to please Italians and today thrills his thousands of home admirers. I remember too, the sharp, electifying burst by the diminutive and brilliant left winger George Armstrong.

Trinidad Face Arsenal
Source: Jamaica Gleaner, page 18
Date Published: 1965-08-03

Independence Football Festival Stars At Stadium Tonight
KC-Cornwall In First Match

JAMAICA'S first Independence Football Festival swings into operation tonight at 8.30 when the powerful Arsenal squad face Trinidad's strongest XI in the first match of the three-game series between Jamaica, Trinidad and Arsenal at the National Stadium.

At 7.00, Kingston College and Cornwall will meet in a preliminary match.

There is no doubt that the Arsenal squad will be going all out and holding back nothing. "We will be going all out," said manager Billy Wright yesterday. "These matches are very important for they are a part of our pre-season training and we have to do well and get into top shape."

From the interest and skill that the full squad showed when they worked out for the first time at the National Stadium yesterday afternoon, they seem intent on carrying out the orders of the manager to the letter.

The sharp-shooting of stocky Joe Baker at centre forward and the brilliant defence play of the costly Ian Ure promise to be outstanding features of tonight's game. Altogether the Arsenal bunch looked a fine group of footballers.

The team for tonight is Jim Furnell (goal), Don Howe (RB), Billy McCullough (LB), Frank McLintock (RH), Ian Ure (CH), Terry Neil (LH), Alan Skirton (OR), George Eastham (IR), Joe Baker (CF), David Court (IL), George Armstrong (OL).

Manager Billy Wright has made it clear that this team is quite a good one and may very well be the one that represents the Club in the next English Football season.

Although the Trinidad side is less experienced than the Arsenal squad confidence abounds in their camp. Their team includes players who have been regular representatives of the Trinidad national team for some while now. Goalkeeper Lincoln Phillips is regarded as the top man in the country at his position and is also in the rating among the Caribbean's top goalkeepers.

Tonight could be a good time for him to prove his skill for undoubtedly he will have a lot of testing.

The team practised at the National Stadium yesterday morning and seemed to master the art of short passing and positioning. Centre forward Gerry Brown and outside right Bobby Sookram are the dangers on the frontline while in the defence right half and captain Sedley Joseph could be responsible for the breakup of quite a few Arsenal raids.

The Trinidad team is Lincoln Phillips (goal), Bertrand Grelle (RB), Baldwin Ferguson (LB), Sedley Joseph (RH), Clem Clarke (CH), Tyrone DeLaBastide (LH), Bobby Sookram (OR), Jeff Gellineau (IR), Gerry Brown (CF), Victor Gamaldo (IL), and Alvin Corneal (OL).

The Independence festival is sponsored by Frank Watson, promoted by Lig-Mona and organized by the Jaycees.

[photo caption]
HERE FOR THE SERIES: Trinidadian footballers and officials who arrived in the island on Sunday afternoon for the Independence Football Festival with Jamaica and Arsenal. The Trinidadians are front row (l to r) Gerry Browne, Richard Nieves, Everald Cummings, Henry Multzac and Alvin Corneal; Second row (l to r) Ken Hodge, Bertrand Grelle, Tyrone DeLaBastide and Ken Henry; Back row (l to r) Lincoln Phillips, Baldwin Ferguson, Jean Moutett, Dudley Joseph (capt.), Mr. Ken Galt (president of the Trinidad Football Association), Clem Clarke, Jeff Gellineau, Conrad Brathwaite (coach), Victor Gamaldo, Cecil Thompson of the JFA and Bobby Sookram.

[E-man]

And the answer is.... Bobby Sookram. Here are the match reports for those three games



Arsenal Top Trinidad 3-1
Source: Jamaica Gleaner, page 14
Date Published: 1965-08-04

ARSENAL TOOK the lead in the Independence Football Festival which started at the National Stadium last night when they defeated Trinidad three goals to one. Half time score was 2-1.

The match started at a brisk pace to both halves but the Trinidadian team finding the slower game to their advantage kept the ball in the air and slowed the pace each time.

It was obvious from the first ball that the English first division team were superior in every department of the game. Their passing was fast and precise and their ball control authoritative.

Good goalkeeping by Trinidad's Lincoln Phillips and the failure of centre forward Joe Baker to capitalize on a through pass down the left wing prevented Arsenal from taking the lead in the first 10 minutes.

The Trinidad forwards were unable to come within the 20 yard-line until the final 15 minutes of the first half but they got two good shots to the goal from long shots which were capably handled by goalkeeper Fernell.

Arsenal got the first goal from a penalty awarded by referee Ken Chaplin when Arsenal's inside right Court was brought down in the area by Trinidadian captain Sedley Joseph.

Court took the spot kick and Phillips was completely beaten as he dived the wrong way. Arsenal was now in top gear and outside right Alan Skirton beat Phillips with a left footer which swerved sharply as it neared the goal and lodged in the left pigeon-hole.

Trinidad tried to get one past the Arsenal goal by using the long overhead pass but it was not until five minutes before the end of the first half that outside right Bobby Sookram opened Trinidad's account from a left side goalmouth melee.

The slimly-build Sookram shook goalkeeper Fernell just before the close with a blazing right footer on the run.

Arsenal cam out for the second half determined men. A long thrust down the left wing ended with Scottish centre forward Joe Barker, who was transferred from the Italian Club Torino for over for over £70,000 and who represented Enland five times, hitting a hard left footer past goalkeeper Phillips. The score was now 3-1.

The schoolboy outside right Sookram, who was the star of the first half almost gave Trinidad her second goal midway the half but his left footer hit under pressure from 20 yards skimmed the top bar.

Arsenal was in control for most of the half and except for the occasional breakthrough by Trinidad play centred in the losers goal area.

Highlight of the second half was the play of centre forward Barker who time after time ran past all through the Trinidadian defence, but was unable to put the ball into the goal for a second time.


Local squad trounce Trinidad 4-0
Source: Jamaica Gleaner, page 14
Date Published: 1965-08-06

Bravo Jamaica!

PLAYING ALTERNATELY brilliant and listless football Jamiaca overwhelmed Trinidad 4-0 at the National Stadium last night before a disappointing crowd of about 8,000. Jamaica joins Arsenal in the lead in the Independence Football Festival, both teams beating Trinidad.

The local team meets Arsenal in the deciding game tomorrow at the National Stadium.

Jamaica was quickest on the move and in the first 10 minutes two movements involving centre forward and captain Lascelles Dunkley could have ended in goals for Jamaica, but hesitancy wiped out the chances.

As in their game against Arsenal Tuesday night when they were defeated 3-1, Trinidad relied on the long ball to get them into the goal area but good defence work held them at bay.

Jamaica scored first in the 26th minute. Dunkley collected a short pass from linkman Lloyd McLean, fought his way past a pack of defenders and push past goalkeeper Lincoln Phillips.

Trinidad tried hard for the equalizer but repeated offside violations and good goalkeeping by Dan Clarke kept the ball out of the Jamaican goal.

The second

In the 35th minute Jamaica, whose play had been listless after the first 15 minutes, exploded. A lob from David Sanguinetti was headed goalwards by Dunkley. The ball appeared to be beating Phillips, but Welsh dashing from the left wing made certain by blasting it into the net.

The third goal came a minute later when Welsh made a solo run down the right wing and flashed a right footer past a diving Phillips. Referee Nell Dwyer's whistle ended the half with Jamaica leading 3-0.

Jamaica made on change for the start of the second half. Larry Wynter coming in for schoolboy Sanguinetti.

There was little purpose to Jamaica's play in the first 20 minutes of the second half as they seemed content with their lead. Trinidad tried hard to get an attack started, but the Jamaica defence, strengthened by the inclusion of Wynter, kept them at bay.

Trinidad's schoolboy star, Bobby Sookram, who scored his team's lone goal against Arsenal, got a glorious chance to make the score 3-1 after two Jamaican goals had been disallowed. Sookram shot hard and to Clark's left but the Jamaican goalkeeper, who was the star of the night's play, dived and brought off a brilliant save.

Jamaica got her fourth goal in the 31st minute just after Paul Thomas replaced Lloyd McLean who had a good game. Oscar Black on the left wing headed powerfully from a Welsh corner kick. The ball hit the inside of the upright and went onto the ground and was cleared by a Trinidadian defence man but referee Dwyer blew his whistle for a goal as the Trinidadian had been standing in the goal.

Before the match the teams were presented to the Acting Prime Minister the Hon. Donald Sangster.

[photo caption]
A TRINIDAD DEFENDER is beaten and Jamaica's centre forward Lascelles Dunkley prepares to slam in Jamaica's first goal at the National Stadium last night. At right is outside left Oscar Black.


Local Football's 'Black Saturday'
Source: Jamaica Gleaner, page 10
Date Published: 1965-08-09
Author: Keith Brown

SO the Independence Soccer Festival has been ruined by battling players, and bottle-throwing spectators who combined to wreck what looked like being a thrill-packed game and stamp Saturday, August 7 as the 'Black Saturday' in Jamaican Football.

Let's recap the major incidents that led to referee Ken Chaplin blowing off the match eight minutes before half time.

(1) Captain and centre-forward Lascelles Dunkley fouled Arsenal centre-half lan Ure and was immediately rushed by Arsenal players Frank McLintock and Don Howe. McLintock punched at Dunkley who retreated with his hands held out to protect himself. Referee Chaplin who had blown for the foul then decided to send Dunkley (for the foul) and McLintock (for fighting) off the field. Dunkley obeyed the order to "march", but McLintock and his teammates immediately raised protests and their manner indicated that they intended to walk off the field. Manager Billy Wright intervened and after a few minutes the confusion ended with McLintock coming off and play resuming with 10 men on each side.

(2) The spectators who had started booing became, became more boisterous after a series of fouls mainly by Arsenal players. Soon, a few bottles started landing on the running track.

(3) A short while later linesman Ralph Bardowell retreated to the centre of the field stopping the game as he claimed that he was in danger of being hit by the bottles which were, now coming in increased numbers. The few police officers who went over, failed to quiet the bleacher-crowd and one officer made a hurried dash to summon the riot squad after a bottle smashed at his feet.

Play soon restarted however.

(4) Suddenly, with play upfield in the Arsenal area. Arsenal's centre-forward Joe Baker was seen to push Jamaica left back Frank Brown and then punch him. Players from both sides immediately rushed up and were squaring off at each other when Chaplin, Jamaica team officials and a couple police officers intervened.

The crowd again started demonstrating and as the bottle shower increased and the situation looked like getting out of hand, Chaplin blew off the match.

Concerning Dunkley's foul. Chaplin said afterwards that he sent the Jamaica captain off for violent conduct—"deliberately stomping Ure in the groin when he was on the ground". Chaplin was perfectly right, in sending Dunkley off if he thought Dunkley had deliberately fouled Ure in a violent manner.

But I cannot agree with his verdict. Ure was hit in the groin; but it was not a deliberate act. It was more a follow-through action. Both men went for the bill. Ure fell, and Dunkley's momentum carried him on. Then too, if Chaplin saw fit to send McLintock off for punching at Dunkley, why was, Howe who had also rushed Dunkley and was right at McLintock's heels when he was charging after the retreating Jamaican, let off scot free? Why also was no firm action taken against Baker, who had started the trouble earlier by deliberately fouling Patrick Blair and also making a threatening advance at the same player?

Chaplin allowed the game to get away from him. Firmer action when the fouling started in the early stages might have averted the disgraceful end.

As for Arsenal, I have nothing but condemnation for their behaviour.

The team's conduct when Chaplin send McLintock off was a disgrace, doubly so when it was coming from players of their reputation. Perhaps they thing that being part of the glamorous money-spinning professional world gives them special privileges to do as they please. That might be acceptable in Britain, but in this country it is not. We still cling to a few remnants of sportsmanship left in the jungle of modern soccer.

Arsenal are the ones who should have apologized publicly to the JFF, not the JFF to them.

I'll bracket Joe Baker's behavior with the hooliganism of those spectators who were throwing bottles.

My opinion of them is unprintable.

[Deeks]

Thanks E-Man!. Real interesting.