Author Topic: WC 2010 - Match 57 - Quarter-finals: Holland vs Brazil (Read 39072 times)

dinho · « **Reply #30 on:** June 30, 2010, 11:56:55 AM »

Pele criticizing Brazil and Argentina points to a Braz v Arg final. thats the way it normally tends to work when he open he mouth.

KND2 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 30, 2010, 11:57:48 AM »

Brazil will win this game easy.

Brazil defense is tough cannot see holland dominating possesion

and most of all cannot see Holland defending well for most of the game.

Their defense is relatively inexperienced at this level. Nerves will kill them.

3-0 brazil

only risk is if roben hit them on the break
but dunga too smart for that.

palos · « **Reply #32 on:** June 30, 2010, 12:10:08 PM »

Quote from: AirMan on June 30, 2010, 11:51:52 AM

^^ If maradona wins the world cup I will not be surprised if Pele refuse to admit he was wrong.

Pele safe den

kicker · « **Reply #33 on:** June 30, 2010, 04:11:44 PM »

Brazil is only boring by their own standards. They've been by far a greater joy to watch than Holland.

Socapro · « **Reply #34 on:** June 30, 2010, 09:11:27 PM »

Quote from: AirMan on June 30, 2010, 11:51:52 AM

^^ If maradona wins the world cup I will not be surprised if Pele refuse to admit he was wrong.

Yuh overlooking that Pele will also be wrong if Brazil wins the World Cup since he critise Dunga's style as well!

kicker · « **Reply #35 on:** June 30, 2010, 09:14:45 PM »

Pele bad-talking Brazil makes me feel better about Brazil's chances.

dinho · « **Reply #36 on:** June 30, 2010, 11:10:41 PM »

Yo Brownsugar, rush hour traffic is at 3pm in South Africa.

So tell yuh side after they get they ass buss that they have to hurry up and pack when they get back to the hotel if they want to get to the airport on time for the Amsterdam flight.. Of course i know this since the Italy scene lol.

Spursy · « **Reply #37 on:** July 01, 2010, 02:02:22 AM »

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Match 57 - Quarter-finals - 02 July
Nelson Mandela Bay/Port Elizabeth - Port Elizabeth Stadium

Head-to-Head

NED:BRA
wins 2:3
draws 4
goals 13:14

Holland have met Brazil three times at a fifa world cup. Both sides have a win and a single draw however the orange has one more goal scored in 5 vs brazil 4.
In International friendlies Brazil have the edge with 2 wins vs hollands solo win in six encounters.
Brazil scoring 10 total goals in friendlies, 2 less than holland.

Under 20 team has met once at fifa world cup only to draw.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/headtohead/team1=bra/team2=ned/index.html

Tough, but we shall see whom is more important, Julio/Maicon/Lucio or Sniejder

JDB · « **Reply #38 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:15:35 AM »

Quote from: kicker on June 30, 2010, 04:11:44 PM

Brazil is only boring by their own standards. They've been by far a greater joy to watch than Holland.

I agree with that. I have criticized Brazil but only because we always imagine the 82 and 86 teams. As we all know them teams win zought. Tactically and in practice this is one of the most professional and effective teams I have ever seen play football. They have an effective gameplan, they have the players to execute it and they execute it. There is a lot of patience and confidence in the way they play and a lot of that confidence is in the fact they know that if they are forced to turn it on(as in the US game last year) they have a better chance than any other team of scoring goals.

I am also tired of all the cries for Ronaldinho. Elano is a much more effective player in this side. Doesn't slow down play, defends well and does set pieces. A much more disappointing choice was the omission of Ganso. That fella is the truth and at 20 is a much better player to bring in as a back-up for Kaka than Dinho.

jai john · « **Reply #39 on:** July 01, 2010, 06:00:24 AM »

Quote from: JDB on June 30, 2010, 05:42:51 AM

I pick Holland to win this game before the World Cup.

Crazy pick yes but I figure that the outright favourites rarely win the WC and if Brazil is going to get knocked out the only team that is likely is Holland. Their path seems even easier with either Ghana or Uruguay facing them in a potential semi.

In other words if Brazil win this game yuh could mark they name on the cup one-time. As much as I love Argentina and Diego this rounds this Brazil is a bad match-up for them and Brazil would roll them.

Spain would be an interesting clash but again the prospect of 1st and 2nd favourites both making it to the final just seems to o unlikely for me.

World Cup Football is not for the weak of heart .....you could not " love Argentina nad Diego " and doubt them . Why you love them in the first place ? if it is because they electrify the audience with quick precise passing and dribbling skills and score goals ... how could you fear any match up ? Argentina played germany before this world cup, when they were struggling ...you know the result of that game ? well you could leave the ship ..it have plenty looking to jump on now.

jai john · « **Reply #40 on:** July 01, 2010, 06:05:45 AM »

Brazil has the most balanced team so far ..as long as kaka plays ...that is only because maradona has not yet settled on his ideal team . Argentina has the most stars in this WC ...test will be the management. Holland has always produced a thrteat to brazil .....I seed Holland as the threat to Argentina ..ha ha ha ...
Luis fabiano is the deadliest striker on the planet ......when Messi is sleeping of course. The game will come down to which stars show up to brighten the world cup skies ....

weary1969 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 01, 2010, 06:09:20 AM »

Quote from: dinho on June 30, 2010, 11:10:41 PM

Yo Brownsugar, rush hour traffic is at 3pm in South Africa.

So tell yuh side after they get they ass buss that they have to hurry up and pack when they get back to the hotel if they want to get to the airport on time for the Amsterdam flight.. Of course i know this since the Italy scene lol.

Brownsugar · « **Reply #42 on:** July 01, 2010, 06:20:44 AM »

Quote from: dinho on June 30, 2010, 11:10:41 PM

Yo Brownsugar, rush hour traffic is at 3pm in South Africa.

So tell yuh side after they get they ass buss that they have to hurry up and pack when they get back to the hotel if they want to get to the airport on time for the Amsterdam flight.. Of course i know this since the Italy scene lol.

Yuh real idle for true yes....

Midknight · « **Reply #43 on:** July 01, 2010, 01:08:58 PM »

Quote from: jai john on July 01, 2010, 06:05:45 AM

Brazil has the most balanced team so far ..as long as kaka plays ...that is only because maradona has not yet settled on his ideal team . Argentina has the most stars in this WC ...test will be the management. Holland has always produced a thrteat to brazil .....I seed Holland as the threat to Argentina ..ha ha ha ...
Luis fabiano is the deadliest striker on the planet ......when Messi is sleeping of course. The game will come down to which stars show up to brighten the world cup skies ....

So yuh big coach done play 4 half the tournament already (plus 20 plus qualifiers and friendlies) and ent identify he ideal side yet? Dat must be one hell of a pool to choose from.

Also, wake up Striker Smurf and tell him the World Cup going on eh...

jai john · « **Reply #44 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:19:21 PM »

Quote from: Midknight on July 01, 2010, 01:08:58 PM

Quote from: jai john on July 01, 2010, 06:05:45 AM
Brazil has the most balanced team so far ..as long as kaka plays ...that is only because maradona has not yet settled on his ideal team . Argentina has the most stars in this WC ...test will be the management. Holland has always produced a thrteat to brazil .....I seed Holland as the threat to Argentina ..ha ha ha ...
Luis fabiano is the deadliest striker on the planet ......when Messi is sleeping of course. The game will come down to which stars show up to brighten the world cup skies ....

So yuh big coach done play 4 half the tournament already (plus 20 plus qualifiers and friendlies) and ent identify he ideal side yet? Dat must be one hell of a pool to choose from.

Also, wake up Striker Smurf and tell him the World Cup going on eh...

To respond I may have to explain the strategy of war ...and football is war ...you plan your strategy according to your opponent ...try and get out of the trinidadian and west indies mode ...we eh have to know bout dem ...dey have to know bout we ... yuh pick de same team whether is 20/20, 50 overs or test ...strategy .

start looking at things with a critical eye ...it is the only way to progress ...
analyse, plan , implement ..pick horses for courses ...a player may shine with his club but be less successful for his country ...one cristiano comes to mind. ..all these things are to be considered ..all the coaches who had their settled team ..Italy etc. are home now ..

P.s ..argentina has the european champions top scorer, the scorer of the most goals in the history of Boca juniors, on the bench, also the leading scorer in spain, the leading scorer in the olympics , the top scorers for their clubs in south america and Europe ...I would say they have one hell of a pool to choose from ...wouldn't you ?

Marcos · « **Reply #45 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:32:41 PM »

Quote from: kicker on June 30, 2010, 04:11:44 PM

Brazil is only boring by their own standards. They've been by far a greater joy to watch than Holland.

True dat... But this Brazil side still stale.

Socafan · « **Reply #46 on:** July 01, 2010, 06:28:06 PM »

Cyar see Holland winning this. They will be overpowered by a bigger, stronger faster side. They have enough quality to make it interesting though.

che · « **Reply #47 on:** July 01, 2010, 07:47:01 PM »

Brazil wins 2-1.

weary1969 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 01, 2010, 08:11:59 PM »

Quote from: che on July 01, 2010, 07:47:01 PM

Brazil wins 2-1.

Said dat on d radio 2day

Brownsugar · « **Reply #49 on:** July 01, 2010, 08:14:44 PM »

Quote from: weary1969 on July 01, 2010, 08:11:59 PM

Quote from: che on July 01, 2010, 07:47:01 PM
Brazil wins 2-1.

Said dat on d radio 2day

Nah the reverse happening....

Socapro · « **Reply #50 on:** July 01, 2010, 08:37:12 PM »

3 - 0 to Brazil if Holland doh score in the 1st half & 2 - 1 to Brazil if Holland manages to score 1st.
In other words if Holland allows Brazil to score 1st they dogs dead!!
As much as I like orange juice I can't see the Orange men scoring against this Brazilian team unless Brazil goes a man down by losing one of their defenders to a Red card!! Also Khaka needs to be extra careful as them referees out to get him!

Jah Gol · « **Reply #51 on:** July 01, 2010, 09:36:06 PM »

The only weakness on Brazil is Melo. I find he's a goat to be honest. Otherwise this game real hard for Holland. The truth is this Brazil team cutting up any side that doesn't have a water tight defence. Watching them play is like you know if they get ONE CHANCE they will take it. Brazil will take this one too.

I favour Robben v Bastos but Lucio and Juan there to stop anything coming in.

richpy · « **Reply #52 on:** July 01, 2010, 10:56:28 PM »

Holland need to move the football quickly, AND score any chance. They doh have the personnel to withstand Brazil's counter-attack.

Give it to Robben let him run at Bastos, but when double-teamed, swing it quickly to Schneijder and co.

They HAVE to score first, and if they do, continue attacking, not try to defend the lead.

Them have real problems tomorrow.

Brownsugar · « **Reply #53 on:** July 02, 2010, 05:15:54 AM »

Brazil, Brazil, Brazil.....blah, blah, blah.....steups!!!

GO ORANJE!!!!!!

giggsy11 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 02, 2010, 05:35:43 AM »

Brasil all the way-to bad this is not the finals. Brasil has an easier path to the finals and I see a Germany vs Brasil finals which will be just as entertaining. Germany has the organization, attack and footballing brain tuh mash up Aregentina's weak arse defense as well as Spain's.

che · « **Reply #55 on:** July 02, 2010, 06:01:37 AM »

Quote from: Brownsugar on July 02, 2010, 05:15:54 AM

Brazil, Brazil, Brazil.....blah, blah, blah.....steups!!!

GO ORANJE!!!!!!

This post is hard on the eyes

Brownsugar · « **Reply #56 on:** July 02, 2010, 06:09:46 AM »

Quote from: giggsy11 on July 02, 2010, 05:35:43 AM

Brasil all the way-to bad this is not the finals. Brasil has an easier path to the finals and I see a Germany vs Brasil finals which will be just as entertaining. Germany has the organization, attack and footballing brain tuh mash up Aregentina's weak arse defense as well as Spain's.

aaahhh yeeesss....FIFA at work....dais nutten....

GO ORANJE!!!

che · « **Reply #57 on:** July 02, 2010, 06:31:08 AM »

Quote from: Brownsugar on July 02, 2010, 05:15:54 AM

Brazil, Brazil, Brazil.....

JOGO BONITO!!!!!!

Ah much better.

D.H.W · « **Reply #58 on:** July 02, 2010, 07:13:20 AM »

nothing for brazil

kicker · « **Reply #59 on:** July 02, 2010, 08:00:43 AM »

Holland side is a serious side on paper...but Brazil can deal....

Hoping for a great game.