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World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« on: March 22, 2014, 10:28:21 PM »
Friendly foes bank on familiarity

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t20/content/current/story/730045.html

Match facts
March 23, 2014
Start time: 19:30 local | 13:30 GMT | 09:30 EDT | 08:30 CDT | 06:30 PDT

Big picture
If you put the names of players from both these squads in a hat, pulled them out into four random teams, added a few Indian domestic players, placed a few Bollywood stars and many hangers-on on the sidelines, and changed rules on the fly, you would have yourself an IPL. India and West Indies have played each other only thrice in international Twenty20s, but the players of these two teams are more familiar with each other's Twenty20 skills than any other set of two teams.

West Indies cricketers are the life of the IPL. Nine of their first XI play in the tournament, and this is a side missing Kieron Pollard. All of the Indians do too. They either net with each other or play against each other day in and day out for two months every year. If Virat kohli can share Chris Gayle's weaknesses with the India team, Dwayne Bravo will surely know how to bowl to MS Dhoni and Suresh Raina. Indian batsmen are the most exposed to Sunil Narine, West Indies know Amit Mishra better than any other batsmen in the world.

Conditions, too, suit both these teams. The spinners love the slowness, the batsmen the short boundaries. Some of the familiarity has flown in how Suresh Raina thinks West Indies batsmen struggle to rotate the strike against spin. West Indies might have a thing or two to say about Raina's general ordinary average against West Indies. What you can't argue about is the fact that this is a match between the ODI champions and the T20I champions with huge implications, which you expect of every league match when two out of five progress. The teams will have to keep an eye towards the skies though; it rained in Dhaka on Saturday and more wet spells are forecast for Sunday afternoon.

Form guide
(most recent first)
India WWWLL
West Indies LWWWL

Watch out for
Since he scored 75 in the semi-final of the last World T20, Chris Gayle has had a bit of a lean patch, which features five single-digit scores in eight matches, and no fifty. He began warming up against England, though, scoring 43 and 36. If he carries on for longer, there might not be many singles required against spinners.

Yuvraj Singh has been India's most influential Twenty20 international since the last World T20. No Indian has scored more runs, nor has an Indian taken more wickets. He will not be pleased with his work against Pakistan: a dropped catch, a 13-run over, a poor shot to get out for 1. Write him off at your own peril, though.

Team news
India have said that three spinners hasn't yet become the winning combination that shouldn't be tinkered with, but Amit Mishra is a good bet to play.
India: (possible) 1 Shikhar Dhawan, 2 Rohit Sharma, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Suresh Raina, 5 Yuvraj Singh, 6 MS Dhoni (capt. & wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Amit Mishra, 10 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 11 Mohammed Shami

Andre Russell should take Pollard's place in the XI as he did in the T20s against England unless West Indies want another specialist pace bowler in Krishmar Santokie.

West Indies: (possible) 1 Dwayne Smith, 2 Chris Gayle, 3 Marlon Samuels, 4 Lendl Simmons, 5 Dwayne Bravo, 6 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 7 Darren Sammy (capt.), 8 Andre Russell/ Krishmar Santokie, 9 Sunil Narine, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Samuel Badree

Stats and trivia
India have played West Indies twice in World T20s, losing both. They won the only other T20I they have played against West Indies

MS Dhoni holds the record for most T20 internationals as a captain, 43, even though India have played the least number of internationals among the eight big teams

Quotes
"West Indies will be a totally different team as they have a lot of players who can hit sixes but they don't have an idea about how to rotate the strike against spinners by taking singles and twos. Therefore, the more pressure we put on the bigger players, the better it will be for us."
Suresh Raina thinks he knows West Indies' weakness

"The good thing in our team is that we don't have to rely on any one person. We have at least five or six potential match-winners."
Darren Sammy knows he has a strong team
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2014, 07:21:34 AM »
We batting 1st, let's go boys!
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 07:36:44 AM »
Gonna miss half of this .My son going for his senior white belt in kung fu.
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 07:50:57 AM »
Anyone have a link to share?  Thanks
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 08:16:30 AM »
Gayle like he trying to out
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2014, 08:26:48 AM »
Hello we needs rins .why Samuels and not Simmo or Sammy .Otis

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2014, 08:32:19 AM »
Too many dot balls. We look disinterested and befuddled
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2014, 08:36:21 AM »
Too many dot balls. We look disinterested and befuddled

Because there was no effort to pick up singles in the early overs, thus increasing the pressure on the batsmen.

When our batsmen finally decided to start looking for singles, it was too late...

Then again, Gayle does not have the level of fitness required to be a singles type of batsman

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2014, 08:37:46 AM »
Good .your up sammy.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 08:39:56 AM »
Too many dot balls. We look disinterested and befuddled

Because there was no effort to pick up singles in the early overs, thus increasing the pressure on the batsmen.

When our batsmen finally decided to start looking for singles, it was too late...

Then again, Gayle does not have the level of fitness required to be a singles type of batsman

the indians mentioned this before the match. we cant rotate strike and keep the scoreboard ticking..hence placing ourselves under unnecessary pressure

simmons save us pls

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2014, 08:40:29 AM »
Only 5 overs left. We need to swing away now. Shit now Bravo gone.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 08:43:33 AM »
Disappointing
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2014, 08:51:48 AM »
somehow i think those warmup performances did a lil harm to our preparations... :-\

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2014, 08:53:42 AM »
This not done yet. But we will have to bowl and field like never before.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2014, 08:58:03 AM »
Bad batting or good bowling?
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 09:01:25 AM »
Bad batting or good bowling?

Both.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2014, 09:03:55 AM »
I think Simmons should be moved up to No. 3. Samuels really stunted the momentum of the WI innings with his ineffectual display.

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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2014, 09:06:31 AM »
I think Simmons should be moved up to No. 3. Samuels really stunted the momentum of the WI innings with his ineffectual display.

Agreed.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2014, 09:11:33 AM »
I think Simmons should be moved up to No. 3. Samuels really stunted the momentum of the WI innings with his ineffectual display.

He was way down the wicket .. poor Gayle.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2014, 09:21:00 AM »
The lazy running does just annoy me. I watch Australia this morning, When they wasn't getting the boundaries, they at least take the single, and looking to turn singles into 2 runs. I watching and these fellas ambling down the wicket like is a Sunday morning stroll.

We easily left 20 runs on the table. 67 Dot Balls!
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2014, 09:25:37 AM »
Dwayne Smith batted so poorly
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2014, 09:44:27 AM »
These fellas have a fete to go to or something?
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2014, 09:51:07 AM »
Poor batting
Poor bowling
Poor fielding

Poor!
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2014, 10:18:24 AM »
The lazy running does just annoy me. I watch Australia this morning, When they wasn't getting the boundaries, they at least take the single, and looking to turn singles into 2 runs. I watching and these fellas ambling down the wicket like is a Sunday morning stroll.

We easily left 20 runs on the table. 67 Dot Balls!

This is exactly what Suresh Raina said about us at the pre-match press conference and people digging horrors....he said our inability to pick the ones and twos is our greatest weakness and we would struggle to make runs if we couldn't hit the 4s and 6s... Sammy's response was, " well try to stop us from hitting sixes nah."   Well, I guess they did just that.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2014, 10:22:33 AM »
Onto game # 2.  Smith cannot play spin, well known, but IMO Fletcher/Charles not sure if they can deliver in place.  Russell to me always struggles, (as I type he just bowled Koli) Ravi needs to be back in.  I'd stick w/Krishmar, 1st game and not much runs on the board
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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2014, 11:00:21 AM »
The lazy running does just annoy me. I watch Australia this morning, When they wasn't getting the boundaries, they at least take the single, and looking to turn singles into 2 runs. I watching and these fellas ambling down the wicket like is a Sunday morning stroll.

We easily left 20 runs on the table. 67 Dot Balls!

This is exactly what Suresh Raina said about us at the pre-match press conference and people digging horrors....he said our inability to pick the ones and twos is our greatest weakness and we would struggle to make runs if we couldn't hit the 4s and 6s... Sammy's response was, " well try to stop us from hitting sixes nah."   Well, I guess they did just that.


Well you did not provide a link confirming the full comment, but if this is true, then this has to be one of the stupidest things I have heard in a long time.

If this statement reflects the overall philosophy of the West Indies T20 approach, then West Indies cricket really has big problems in the T20 area.

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2014, 11:09:04 AM »
The lazy running does just annoy me. I watch Australia this morning, When they wasn't getting the boundaries, they at least take the single, and looking to turn singles into 2 runs. I watching and these fellas ambling down the wicket like is a Sunday morning stroll.

We easily left 20 runs on the table. 67 Dot Balls!

This is exactly what Suresh Raina said about us at the pre-match press conference and people digging horrors....he said our inability to pick the ones and twos is our greatest weakness and we would struggle to make runs if we couldn't hit the 4s and 6s... Sammy's response was, " well try to stop us from hitting sixes nah."   Well, I guess they did just that.


Well you did not provide a link confirming the full comment, but if this is true, then this has to be one of the stupidest things I have heard in a long time.

If this statement reflects the overall philosophy of the West Indies T20 approach, then West Indies cricket really has big problems in the T20 area.

I may have taken certain liberties with the quotation ;D, but the gist of what he said is clear....

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/Stop-us-from-hitting-sixes--says-Sammy

Stop us from hitting sixes, says Sammy

Saturday, March 22, 2014

DHAKA, Bangladesh (CMC) – West Indies captain Darren Sammy has hit back at criticism from India’s Suresh Raina that the Caribbean side are only capable of hitting sixes, and suffer from their inability to rotate the strike.

Both teams are preparing for their highly anticipated clash on Sunday in the World Twenty20 Championship.

When asked to assess the big-hitting Windies opening pair of Chris Gayle and Dwayne Smith, Raina said: “West Indies will be a totally different team as they have a lot of players who can hit sixes but they don't have an idea about how to rotate the strike against spinners by taking singles and twos.

“Therefore, the more pressure we put on the bigger players, better it will be for us.”


Speaking in Saturday’s media conference, Sammy was straightforward in his response.

“Raina has a right to say whatever he wants. I guess if he has described us as six-hitters, then they have got to stop us from hitting sixes,” the skipper said dryly.

The two teams face-off at the Shere Bangla National Stadium at 7:30 pm (9:30 am Eastern Caribbean time).

West Indies start as defending champions following their triumph in Sri Lanka two years ago

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Re: World T20: India v West Indies - March 23, 2014
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2014, 09:49:26 AM »
Well Michael-J, here is more evidence of the stupidity (sorry, no kinder way for me to say it) behind West Indies' 20/20 philosophy and tactics.

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Gibson happy with West Indies methods

Mohammad Isam in Mirpur

March 24, 2014

Matches: Bangladesh v West Indies at Dhaka

When two opposition players speak openly about your weakness, a reply is awaited. When asked if his players are too reliant on boundaries and place a low emphasis on singles and twos, West Indies coach Ottis Gibson said he took pride in having big hitters in the team.

Before the India-West Indies game, Suresh Raina had said that India would look to cut out fours and sixes, because West Indies don't like rotating the strike. On Sunday evening, India bowled plenty of dot balls, cut out the boundaries and restricted West Indies to a modest score.

Now Bangladesh captain Mushfiqur Rahim has echoed Raina's words. In four T20s against Bangladesh so far, West Indies have averaged eleven fours and eight sixes a match. That sixes count is higher than their overall average of just over five per match.

Gibson responded by saying there was nothing wrong with West Indies' method, and they had done well basing their strategy around boundaries, even if India had taken advantage of intelligence gathered on his team's players during the IPL.

"We are blessed with players who can hit the ball to the stands," Gibson said. "I am sure people will look at [Chris] Gayle to hit the ball to the stands rather than take a quick single and pull a hamstring. If you look back at the game, most of our best players are in the IPL and I think they [India] know them quite well, and a lot of the plans from last night seem to come out of IPL. Bangladesh are different and we look forward to it. We have to focus on winning, to survive in the tournament.

"People will make assumptions based on what happened last night. India bowled well. We didn't get singles but we don't normally get singles. That's the way it goes sometimes."

Gibson believes that talk of taking more singles wouldn't necessarily mean his team would start doing that. He wants the batsmen to be more aware of the situation they are playing in, and then find ways to find the boundaries.
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"You can't change much technically but it is in the mindset," he said. "We have to be aware of what the opposition is trying to do. We need to adjust mindset to counteract that. We can't just start taking singles, but take those that are there. I wouldn't want them to be run out, like Gayle did last night. He would have got 30-40 extra runs."

Against India, West Indies didn't include the experienced Ravi Rampaul, and went with the in-form left-armer Krishmar Santokie instead. With India discovering plenty of swing under the lights, Gibson said it would be a factor in their selection against Bangladesh, in what will be another night game.

"The ball swung more at night, as the Indian bowlers showed," he said. "We have to look at it when we form the eleven. Rampaul and [Sheldon] Cottrell are in our side, both are excellent so we will see how the team shapes up.

"I thought he [Santokie] bowled okay. Defending 130 was never going to be easy against the Indian batting line-up. He will get more and more comfortable in the tournament. He was probably a bit nervous, and he will work to improve."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t20/content/story/730699.html

 

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