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United States News Thread
« on: July 01, 2015, 11:28:16 AM »
United States Elections 2016

Seems like there's a new announcement each day.

While that's happening, The Donald Trump just told Macy's and NBC to buzz off. Apparently, he is hoping to become POTUS before Latinos become the largest voting bloc in the US.  :P
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The principal declared candidates

Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Lincoln Chafee
Chris Christie
Hillary Clinton
Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Lindsey Graham
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal 
Martin O'Malley
George Pataki
Rand Paul
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Bernie Sanders
Rick Santorum
Jim Webb
Donald Trump

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Jeb Bush responds to Donald Trump's immigration remarks
By Michael Tanenbaum (PhillyVoice).


Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush is the latest to weigh in on controversial remarks made by fellow GOP challenger Donald Trump about Mexico and immigration.

According to the Associated Press, Bush spoke to reporters after marching in Fourth of July parades in Amherst and Merrimack, New Hampshire.

"I don't think he represents the Republican Party, and his views are way out of the mainstream of what Republicans think," Bush said. "No one suggests that we shouldn't control our borders - everybody has a belief that we should control our borders. But to make these extraordinarily ugly kind of comments is not reflective of the Republican Party. Trump is wrong on this."

Bush, whose wife was born in Mexico, went on to tell reporters that he took the remarks personally. Trump has steadfastly defended his views, expressed last month in a speech announcing his bid for the Republican nomination.

"They're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing their problems," Trump said. "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some I assume are good people, but I speak to border guards and they tell us what we are getting."

The most recent CNN/ORC national poll shows Bush at the front of a crowded GOP field, with 19 percent, up 6 points from May, while Trump stands at 12 percent.

Jeb Bush: Donald Trump's Immigration Remarks Offensive
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush says he is personally offended by rival Donald Trump's recent remarks about Mexico and immigrants and calls the remarks far outside the mainstream of Republican thought.

"I don't think he represents the Republican Party, and his views are way out of the mainstream of what Republicans think," Bush told reporters after marching in Fourth of July parades in Amherst and Merrimack, New Hampshire.

"No one suggests that we shouldn't control our borders - everybody has a belief that we should control our borders," he said. "But to make these extraordinarily ugly kind of comments is not reflective of the Republican Party. Trump is wrong on this."

Bush's wife was born in Mexico, and when he was asked if he took Trump's remarks personally, he responded: "Yeah, of course. Absolutely. And a lot of other people as well."

When Trump announced his presidential bid last month, he criticized Mexico and immigrants who come to the U.S. illegally. "They're bringing drugs," he said. "They're bringing crime. They're rapists."

In spite of earlier criticism from Bush and other Republicans and companies moving to cut business ties to Trump, the real estate mogul has defended his remarks.

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Donald Trump's 'hurtful and unjust' comments on Mexican migrants slammed by Miss Universe
David Usborne (The Independent, UK).


Now even royalty, of a sort, is turning on Donald Trump. Two weeks into to the ugly ruckus that began when he described  Mexican immigrants as drug dealers and rapists while announcing his run for president, Paulina Vega, the reigning Miss Universe, has condemned his comments as “unjust and hurtful”.

The fallout from his comments had already begun to seriously damage his business interests. New York City, which has a golf course and a skating rink bearing the Trump name, is reviewing all ties with him. Macy’s, the giant retailer, is dropping his fashion lines. Hispanic leaders have derided him and are demanding that other Republican presidential hopefuls call him out too.

“Donald Trump’s remarks were disgusting and offensive, and this hateful language has no place in our city,” New York Mayor Bill de Blasio said on Wednesday. America’s top golfing bodies, including the PGA, were moved to issue a joint statement after he suggested that the sport somehow shared his outlook. “We feel compelled to clarify that those remarks do not reflect the views of our organisations,” it said.

But it is possible that Ms Vega’s rather mild reprimand (Colombian-born, she did go on to say that she would not be surrendering her crown) that will get under his very thick skin the most.

A joint venture between Mr Trump and NBC Universal, the Miss Universe Organisation is itself imperiled after NBC said it was pulling the plug on the partnership. On top of that, Univision, the biggest Spanish-language network in the US, said it would not broadcast the upcoming Miss USA Pageant, a spin-off of Miss Universe.

The debacle, which threatens to scramble all attempts by  the Republican Party and its other presidential candidates to appeal to Hispanic voters in 2016, began when Mr Trump turned to the issue of illegal immigration in his announcement speech on 16 June. He spoke of building a “great, great wall” along the US-Mexican border. Mexican immigrants, he barrelled on, were “bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people”.

If Mr Trump is destined to be merely a side-show, or possibly freak-show, in the 2016 campaign, that cannot be said of his candidacy right now, with multiple new polls showing him running second nationally among the 14 Republicans who have so far declared, and doing equally well in some critical primary states such as New Hampshire. These numbers embolden him as he declines to back away from his comments.

History suggests that his success may be fleeting, caused in part by high name recognition. In the meantime, however, by further harming the image of his party among Hispanics, an increasingly crucial voting bloc in America, he may be doing Democrats an enormous favour. If Hillary Clinton and the other Democrat hopefuls have said nothing, it’s because they don’t have to.

His rivals for the Republican nomination seemed determined at first also to stay mum. But aware that saying nothing might look like an endorsement of the Trump rant, they are slowly stepping forward. Senator Marco Rubio, who his himself Hispanic, said: “Trump’s comments are not just offensive and inaccurate, but also divisive.” Jeb Bush, the front-runner in several polls, limited himself to saying that Mr Trump was “wrong”.
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so seeker, who would you say are the top front runners??

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Despite the polling, not Trump?

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Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2015, 03:11:25 PM »

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Donald Trump is right about Mexico says Jamiel Shaw Sr

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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2015, 08:35:56 PM »
trump have some kicksy speeches. at some point dey will have to do an autopsy of the gop.

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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2015, 10:55:39 AM »
trump have some kicksy speeches. at some point dey will have to do an autopsy of the gop.

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Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 05:45:36 PM »
Read the other day that Trump saying that immigrants bringing diseases to the U.S.  After that I realize the man double down and going full retard for the election.

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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2015, 07:51:11 PM »
Read the other day that Trump saying that immigrants bringing diseases to the U.S.  After that I realize the man double down and going full retard for the election.

ha ha - true dat. he promising a lot:

  • border fence
  • tear up nafta - (replace with bilateral deals)
  • lower corporate taxes
  • no changes to military funding or social security
  • repeal obamacare
  • new health care plans (supposed to be better than obamacare)
  • deny iran nuclear weaponry
  • jobs fuh so
  • a presidency immune from lobbyists
  • destroy (not degrade) isis

ah gorn listen to bernie now ....

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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2015, 05:05:14 PM »
What about the latest antics from Trump?
  • John McCain is not a hero because he was caught
  • He called Lindsey Graham an idiot and then recited Graham's mobile number at a campaign rally and told his supporters to call him
  • Says the Rick Perry wears glasses to appear smart
:rotfl: At this point he just trolling the GOP and the crazies loving it.

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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2015, 05:12:01 PM »
Giving out Lindsey Graham's cell number was extra special

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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2015, 07:19:08 PM »
Ha ha - Like Trump telling Graham: Yuh want to see jackass??


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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2015, 06:02:28 PM »
Ha ha - Like Trump telling Graham: Yuh want to see jackass??



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Re: Dump the rest of those Chumps and vote for Donald Trump in 2016
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2015, 06:23:38 PM »
The Donald is on CNN taking no prisoners. Humour interwoven with selected facts.

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Run, Joe, run!

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Run, Joe, run!

COSIGN luv him bad. He says what he wants despite the consequences.
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Just watched his speech. Very tight presentation in announcing he won't run. Hillary Clinton just dodged a bullet.

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Just watched his speech. Very tight presentation in announcing he won't run. Hillary Clinton just dodged a bullet.

Yep she jumping up and down.
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Where is Hillary hiding Bill?  :devil:

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Donald Trump’s ‘schlonged': A linguistic investigation
By Justin Wm. Moyer, The Washington Post


In a long campaign that’s far from over, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s comment in Grand Rapids, Mich., that Hillary Clinton — former first lady, former U.S. senator, former secretary of state, woman — “got schlonged” in her 2008 primary run might be considered just another insult. Trump, after all, has been down in the dirt slinging mud before, calling Rosie O’Donnell a “fat pig” and a “slob” and making comments that certainly seemed critical of Megyn Kelly’s menstrual cycle.

But there was something different about “schlonged.” Sure, it was sexist — especially given Trump’s general disapproval of Clinton’s bathroom use during the recent Democratic presidential debate.

“Republican frontrunner Donald Trump used a campaign stop in Michigan on Monday to make astonishingly sexist attacks against Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton,” the left-leaning ThinkProgress wrote. “. . . ‘Schlong’ is a well-known reference to a man’s genitals. There are no alternative definitions for the word, according to Merriam-Webster.”

Sexism for Trump, however, is nothing new. In an email to The Washington Post, Harvard University’s Steven Pinker, a noted researcher on language and cognition, pointed out that Trump, using a term that comes to English via Yiddish and Middle High German, may simply have been trying to say something else.

“Given Trump’s history of vulgarity and misogyny, it’s entirely possible that he had created a sexist term for ‘defeat’ (as far as I know there is no such slang verb in Yiddish),” Pinker wrote. “But given his history with sloppy language it’s also possible that it’s a malaprop.”

Trump’s problem? He’s a gentile who, linguistically, may have wandered too far from home.

“Many goyim are confused by the large number of Yiddish terms beginning with ‘schl’ or ‘schm’ (schlemiel, schlemazzle, schmeggegge, schlub, schlock, schlep, schmutz, schnook), and use them incorrectly or interchangeably,” he wrote. “And headline writers often ransack the language for onomatopoeic synonyms for ‘defeat’ such as drub, whomp, thump, wallop, whack, trounce, clobber, smash, trample, and Obama’s own favorite, shellac (which in fact sounds a bit like schlong). So an alternative explanation is that Trump reached for what he thought was a Yinglish word for ‘beat’ and inadvertently coined an obscene one.”

But Trump has used the word “schlonged” at least once before — in a 2011 discussion of a House seat Republicans lost.

“I watched a popular Republican woman [Jane Corwin] not only lose but get schlonged by a Democrat [Kathy Hochul] nobody ever heard of for the congressional seat, and that was because, simply, because of the Paul Ryan plan,” Trump said at the time. “That was an attack on Medicare. Now he’s trying to soften it, but whether you like it or not, that was an attack on Medicare.”

Still, maybe the power of “schlonged” was in its relative novelty. Trump could have used many other vulgar synonyms for “lost” — even the F-word, had he been so bold. Yet he casually chose an unusual formulation favored by frat boys and comedians working blue, not aspirants for the nation’s highest office.

Indeed, Nexis notes just seven uses of “schlonged.” Two were Trump’s recent jab at Clinton; one referenced a “long-schlonged” reality TV star; one appeared in an obituary for Philip Seymour Hoffman, noting the actor’s role as a “gauche gay boom operator with a crush on [a] long-schlonged superstar” in the film “Boogie Nights”; another appeared in an article about the HBO show “Hung”; and another in the transcript of an episode of Comedy Central’s long-canceled “The Man Show.”

Only one use of “schlonged” as a verb came from a respected political source. In 2011, NPR’s Neal Conan made this observation (to The Post’s Chris Cillizza) on the 1984 Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro campaign: “That ticket went on to get schlonged at the polls.”

As Ben Jacobs of the Guardian noted: “Has any candidate for Borough President, let alone President of the United States ever used ‘schlonged’ in public before?” Or, as another Twitter user wrote: “Because the leader of the free world would definitely publicly use the word ‘schlonged.’ ” And another: ” ‘Schlonged.’ Verb, right?”

Perhaps the sting of “schlonged” is best explained by grammarians. As The Post’s Jenna Johnson noted, this is quite a memorable example of “turning a vulgar noun . . . into a verb” — something we all do when we use verbs like “trend” or “Google.”

“This conversion of nouns to verbs is known as ‘verbing’ and it has been around for as long as the English language itself,” Oxford University Press noted in 2013. “Ancient verbs such as rain and thunder and more recent conversions such as access, chair, debut, highlight and impact were all originally used only as nouns before they became verbs.”

Perhaps anticipating Trump’s use of “schlonged,” the Press also noted: “Verbing exists essentially to make what we say shorter and snappier. It can also give a more dynamic sense to ideas.”

One need not be a Trump detractor to condemn such usage. Benjamin Franklin, complaining about “awkward and abominable” nouns-as-verbs such as “notice,” “advocate” and “progress” in 1789, wrote a lexicographer: “If you should happen to be of my Opinion with respect to these Innovations you will use your Authority in reprobating them.”

Trump, as usual, was not inclined to look back with regret on “schlonged,” and marched onward.

“THANK YOU Grand Rapids, Michigan!” he tweeted. “Time to end political correctness & secure our homeland!”

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United States Elections 2016
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2016, 10:35:36 AM »

Election year in America. Figured it will be good idea to have this thread. A lot of primary election and future general election discussion surrounding America's front runners..Trump, Clinton, Sanders, Cruz

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2016, 05:35:55 AM »
Sarah Palin is back!!!  I'm going to love this 2016 election. Especially if Trump wins the Republican nomination...... :praying: ;D
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2016, 04:45:17 AM »
Sarah Palin is back!!!  I'm going to love this 2016 election. Especially if Trump wins the Republican nomination...... :praying: ;D

This American election look like one big comedy fest oui  :D

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2016, 07:54:27 AM »
Sarah Palin is back!!!  I'm going to love this 2016 election. Especially if Trump wins the Republican nomination...... :praying: ;D

This American election look like one big comedy fest oui  :D

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2016, 09:07:20 AM »
Leh me put it this way. Is Hailary to lose. She has to be firm and doh be wishy washy.Make sure no new scandalous, other that what is in the public domain, appear on the scene.

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2016, 09:37:43 AM »
yuh hadda admit though, that Trump gambling dat he could ride home to nomination victory by SHAMELESSLY pandering to the the racists and xenophobes....takes guts
I pity the fool....

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2016, 09:42:58 AM »
Leh me put it this way. Is Hailary to lose. She has to be firm and doh be wishy washy.Make sure no new scandalous, other that what is in the public domain, appear on the scene.

Under a considered view, she has lost already.

And, as for the final sentence: good luck.

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Re: United States Elections 2016
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2016, 08:34:06 AM »
Trump will win the GOP nomination and it will be interesting to see how the Conservative establishment deal with him in the aftermath of this.. America's political reality show  :D
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