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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2015, 09:11:25 AM »






Photos of the recent meeting of T&T and Venezuelan functionaries. Unless I'm mistaken, the reception of the Venezuelan Minister of Foreign Affairs constitutes the new PM's first meeting with a foreign government at this level.

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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2015, 09:13:48 AM »
So Frico, in your honest opinion, give it to we straight. We are mature people. election done. Who is the right person to lead the PNM?

Watch Frico tell yuh Sat Maharaj  :)

Yuh aint see how the man so focused on race.

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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2015, 09:19:16 AM »
frico is ah card carryin racist from long time  best to ignore him and he shit
I pity the fool....

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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2015, 05:14:43 PM »
Mischief-makers out to distract*
By Joel Julien, joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com
Published on Sep 27, 2015, 9:28 pm AST (T&T Express)


MISCHIEF-MAKERS are trying to “derail” Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley from governing the country, but they will all fail, general secretary of the People’s National Movement (PNM) Ashton Ford has said.

Ford made the comments yesterday as he responded to concerns raised about Rowley wearing a balisier tie to the funeral of former PNM minister Errol Mahabir last Friday.

Ford said in 2012 the general council of the PNM ruled that the wearing of the tie bearing the party’s logo will be optional.

“We made the wearing of the tie optional. Individuals can wear it in the Parliament if they wish, but it is optional. More importantly, at all PNM events and PNM activities, all officers of the Movement wear the balisier tie,” Ford said.

Ford said that is exactly what Rowley did on Friday.

“At Mahabir’s funeral, PNM flags were flown at half mast and we paid due respect to him as an ex-officer of the Movement, ex-minister under the PNM government and a ex-parliamentary representative under the PNM government and we gave him his due, flags were flown at half mast and people wore balisier ties at the funeral. The balisier tie will always be there,” Ford said.

Ford said Rowley wearing the Balisier tie was a non-issue.
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2015, 09:57:24 AM »

Hopes rise for Rowley home-based diplomacy

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150926/editorial/hopes-rise-for-rowley-home-based-diplomacy

PRIME Minister Keith Rowley has demonstrated ability to resist the lure of international bright lights, in favour of pursuing diplomacy at home. The annual United Nations General Assembly was reported to have drawn 170 world leaders to its New York sessions that included a celebrity appearance by Pope Francis.

That Dr Rowley chose to have the T&T UN delegation led by Foreign Affairs Minister Dennis Moses reflects positively on a disposition against indulging in foreign travel likely yielding unclear national benefits. In Mr Moses, T&T could be assured of competent representation by someone with training and experience in international relations.

Dr Rowley was able, however, to advance T&T interests through a direct encounter with a high-level visiting Venezuelan delegation. Steady deterioration in relations between closest neighbour, Venezuela, and Caricom partner, Guyana, represents a worrisome development.

Dr Rowley was able to convey to the Caracas government leadership T&T’s concerns for a lowering of tensions between Venezuela and Guyana. He also pressed exhortations that “neither side will do anything to escalate” the dispute which should be “resolved in the best interest of all and in accordance with international law”.

Such highest-level T&T diplomatic involvement came against the background of reports that Venezuela had deployed troops to a contested area of its border with Guyana. Those moves had raised alarms in Georgetown which was this week the scene of a street parade by Guyanese troops.

Nothing is to be gained by military muscle-flexing by either side. Along with the region and the world, T&T hopes the Guyanese military show of defiance will not trigger responses in kind from its far more powerful neighbour.

For now, T&T can only urge peace and restraint in a dispute that has mounted with the discovery of oil on the Guyanese side of a border not recognised by Venezuela. Appropriately, the differences will be aired, for hopeful settlement through mediation, at the current UN sessions where T&T will have another opportunity for diplomatic input.

In Port of Spain, however, Prime Minister Rowley was also able to press the case for T&T-Venezuela collaboration in energy, trade, security, arts and culture. Most urgent among T&T interests remains that of joint natural gas exploitation in the Loran-Manatee cross-border field.

Both countries stand to gain from early implementation of that project. T&T, however, suffering a painful natural gas shortage, is especially keen to realise progress on this front.

Any positive steps toward earliest bringing ashore of cross-border gas would easily justify Dr Rowley’s stay-home decision, over sharing the big-time spotlight in New York.

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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2015, 06:17:31 AM »
Minister to tackle outstanding $$ disputes*
Jenny and JTUM in labour meeting

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150929/news/minister-to-tackle-outstanding-disputes

Labour Minister Jennifer Baptiste-Primus yesterday announced that three committees will be set up to examine all outstanding wage negotiations, some of which date back to 2008.

The minister gave the assurance following a meeting with the Joint Trade Union Movement (JTUM), at the ministry’s office, Tower C, International Waterfront Complex, Port of Spain.

“We are not comfortable at all about negotiations being outstanding for such long periods. It contributes to a lot of wasted man hours and the usual hostility that we can learn to grow out of if we do things in the proper manner,” she said.
Baptiste-Primus said during the meeting with JTUM, the stalled negotiations at Cipriani College of Labour and Co-operative Studies was flagged.
Negotiations at the college have been going on for more than four years now.

The Minister said this had to be addressed as it reflected badly on the Ministry of Labour.
“I have given the undertaking that the new board would be given a mandate to not only settle negotiations but to develop a new vision for that college, because that college’s history, in terms of the empowerment of not only workers but persons from the co-operative arena, must be channelled in a very positive way,” she stated.

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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2015, 06:01:09 PM »


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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2015, 06:29:52 PM »

Minister: We will act on school bullying

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-09-30/minister-we-will-act-school-bullying

The Ministry of Education says it will act on any information brought to its attention as it relates to school violence and bullying.

Speaking briefly in a telephone yesterday, Education Minister Anthony Garcia expressed concern over the posting of online videos on social media, which depicted incidents of violence.

In the latest video posted to Facebook on Tuesday a male student from a secondary school in north Trinidad was seen slapping a younger boy in a classroom several times, while shouting obscenities and racial slurs at him.

The video was filmed by another student, while other students could be seen looking on.

Pressed to say what was the ministry’s policy regarding violence and bullying, Garcia said school principals had the authority to suspend students believed to be involved in such incidents.

Revealing that his ministry will soon host a national consultation, which will focus primarily on the syllabus and school discipline, Garcia said school supervisors also were assigned to each school, as part of the support mechanism to principals.

Garcia explained it was their responsibility to liaise with officials to ensure the smooth operation of the respective school.

Admitting that once an incident occurred the school first had to do its own investigation, Garcia said deans also were identified at each school to support the efforts of the principal to enforce discipline and the code of conduct.

Referring to the Education Act which empowers principals to suspend students “who go overboard,” Garcia said once a student/students were determined as the cause of injury/harm to others, they had the authority to suspend the child/children for a maximum of seven days.

He added: “If the situation was grave enough, principals can also apply to the ministry for an extension of the suspension.”

At least three new videos were posted to Facebook yesterday, showing students (both male and female), engaged in similar activities.

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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2015, 05:20:33 PM »

GA$ UP, VAT DOWN


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20151005/news/gas-up-vat-down

FINANCE Minister Colm Imbert spent two hours this afternoon detailing how he said the previous administration mismanaged the economy and squandered the country's money, before calling on citizens to help reverse the decline.

Among the actions to be taken to reduce the budget deficit and generate revenue lost from declining oil and gas revenue, citizens were told that with immediate effect, they could expect a 15 per cent increase in the price of super gasoline and diesel.

Delivering the new government's first budget, having taken office September 7, Imbert said the increase was the beginning of the PNM Government's plan to roll back the fuel subsidy, which had cost the country $19 billion in the past four years.

The price of super gasoline will increase from $2.70 per litre to $3.11 per litre.

The diesel price goes from $1.50 per litre to $1.73 per litre.

Imbert, addressing Parliament at the International Waterfront, Port of Spain, said the increase in fuel prices will see a $340 million reduction annual subsidies, however the fuel subsidy is still expected to exceed $1 billion.

The budget has been pegged at an oil price of $45 per barrel of oil.

Citizens can also expect to pay less Value Added Tax (VAT) on non-luxury items (from 15 per cent to 12.5 per cent), but should start saving to pay the property tax which will be reintroduced as of January 1, while the Revenue Authority is established before the end of next year.

Big business can expect to pay more through the business fund levy and green fund, with a taxation regime to be devised for the gaming industry.

However, there will be multiple incentives for the Agriculture sector with tax exemptions for agriculture-related tools, supplies and chemicals.

Imbert also disclosed that the Judiciary would be given the financial autonomy that he had sought for many years. In 2016 there would also be the introduction of a video conference system from remand Yard, with lay magistrates to deal with minor offences in order to deal with the backlog of cases.

And $2.772 billion will go to Tobago, which represents 4.4 percent of the total budget, significantly above minimum, and more in percentage terms than Tobago from the Peoples Partnership government. He said that Tobago is to receive a further $1.13 billion from Central Government.

In addition, Imbert said the Solomon Hochoy Highway Project to Point Fortin would be completed, and the highway between San Fernando to Mayaro would be started, along with a new road to Toco (where a ferry terminal to Tobago is th be constructed), and a new road to Moruga, where new fishing facility would be built.

 
Other highlights:

- There will be a review and audit of the Children's Life Fund, the brainchild of the former prime minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.

- The government to make full use of the sporting facilities nearing completion.

Budget Figures:

Total Revenue:$60.28 billion.

Total Expenditure: $63.048 billion.

Pegged oil Price:US$45

National Security: $10.81 billion

Education and Training: 9.763 billion

Health: $6.088 billion

Public utilities $4.452 billion

Local government $2.72 billion

Works and Infrastructure: $1.95 billion

Housing: $1.663 billion

Transport: $1.563 billion

Agriculture: $831 million



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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2015, 05:23:23 PM »

GA$ UP, VAT DOWN


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20151005/news/gas-up-vat-down

FINANCE Minister Colm Imbert spent two hours this afternoon detailing how he said the previous administration mismanaged the economy and squandered the country's money, before calling on citizens to help reverse the decline.

Among the actions to be taken to reduce the budget deficit and generate revenue lost from declining oil and gas revenue, citizens were told that with immediate effect, they could expect a 15 per cent increase in the price of super gasoline and diesel.

Delivering the new government's first budget, having taken office September 7, Imbert said the increase was the beginning of the PNM Government's plan to roll back the fuel subsidy, which had cost the country $19 billion in the past four years.

The price of super gasoline will increase from $2.70 per litre to $3.11 per litre.

The diesel price goes from $1.50 per litre to $1.73 per litre.

Imbert, addressing Parliament at the International Waterfront, Port of Spain, said the increase in fuel prices will see a $340 million reduction annual subsidies, however the fuel subsidy is still expected to exceed $1 billion.

The budget has been pegged at an oil price of $45 per barrel of oil.

Citizens can also expect to pay less Value Added Tax (VAT) on non-luxury items (from 15 per cent to 12.5 per cent), but should start saving to pay the property tax which will be reintroduced as of January 1, while the Revenue Authority is established before the end of next year.

Big business can expect to pay more through the business fund levy and green fund, with a taxation regime to be devised for the gaming industry.

However, there will be multiple incentives for the Agriculture sector with tax exemptions for agriculture-related tools, supplies and chemicals.

Imbert also disclosed that the Judiciary would be given the financial autonomy that he had sought for many years. In 2016 there would also be the introduction of a video conference system from remand Yard, with lay magistrates to deal with minor offences in order to deal with the backlog of cases.

And $2.772 billion will go to Tobago, which represents 4.4 percent of the total budget, significantly above minimum, and more in percentage terms than Tobago from the Peoples Partnership government. He said that Tobago is to receive a further $1.13 billion from Central Government.

In addition, Imbert said the Solomon Hochoy Highway Project to Point Fortin would be completed, and the highway between San Fernando to Mayaro would be started, along with a new road to Toco (where a ferry terminal to Tobago is th be constructed), and a new road to Moruga, where new fishing facility would be built.

 
Other highlights:

- There will be a review and audit of the Children's Life Fund, the brainchild of the former prime minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.

- The government to make full use of the sporting facilities nearing completion.

Budget Figures:

Total Revenue:$60.28 billion.

Total Expenditure: $63.048 billion.

Pegged oil Price:US$45

National Security: $10.81 billion

Education and Training: 9.763 billion

Health: $6.088 billion

Public utilities $4.452 billion

Local government $2.72 billion

Works and Infrastructure: $1.95 billion

Housing: $1.663 billion

Transport: $1.563 billion

Agriculture: $831 million




Download Budget Statement 2015/2016 delivered by Finance Min. Colm Imbert

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8A7QPkKr8NaRWgzWkIxYVA0bWc/view?pli=1

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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2015, 07:32:04 PM »
I eh see how much of that going into sport? I don't see the RR being built in the near future either. More important priorities to attend first. So brace for traffic  :(.  National security get the lion share.
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2015, 07:57:56 PM »
I eh see how much of that going into sport? I don't see the RR being built in the near future either. More important priorities to attend first. So brace for traffic  :(National security get the lion share.

Of course. what did you expect? Crime is a REAL problem in T&T

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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2015, 07:59:33 PM »

VIDEO Report; https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/videos/10153681466687996/

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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2015, 09:45:50 PM »
I eh see how much of that going into sport? I don't see the RR being built in the near future either. More important priorities to attend first. So brace for traffic  :(National security get the lion share.

Of course. what did you expect? Crime is a REAL problem in T&T

Breds, the sad face was for the traffic. I have no issue with NS getting the lion share because our internal security is in shambles.

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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2015, 11:50:34 PM »
I eh see how much of that going into sport? I don't see the RR being built in the near future either. More important priorities to attend first. So brace for traffic  :(National security get the lion share.

Of course. what did you expect? Crime is a REAL problem in T&T

Breds, the sad face was for the traffic. I have no issue with NS getting the lion share because our internal security is in shambles.
so has the crime issue been due to underfunding at National security ? Ok. Here's a idea ( nb: not mine, but I like it ), as done in other parts of the world, anybody especially the top dawgs, who have been found and convicted of being involved in funding of criminal activities, all assets - including immediate family assets seized and sold..similarly all officers of the law to be court marshalled, but no deals, general population .i.e. All criminals...surely deals may be made to ensure convictions, eg. Private cells.i.e.yes not part of general prison population but no buy out can occur here. No special privileges ,just as much National security as can be provided. These assets would pay for themselves. Whether be drugs or white collar issues, seize and sell their assets. The clicos, life sports,the corner pusher, the adult mugger,..for lesser crimes that does not affect or injure members of the population, strike rule..yes, we will give u opportunity to walk the right path or hide yuh stuff from us.. Since we have relationship with other countries, come to agreement to acquire/borrow manpower and patrol with local forces,  ensuring we do not suddenly live in an army state. Use proceeds of sales of assets to offset these initiatives.
I do think, the lion's share should go to the social programs,security for such workers in the troubled areas,and other such initiatives, however, I honestly, don't know what that ministry is. Probably, mental health.. I just prattling and brain storming doh..so any criticism or extrapolation of such welcome
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« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2015, 12:41:51 AM »
I eh see how much of that going into sport? I don't see the RR being built in the near future either. More important priorities to attend first. So brace for traffic  :(National security get the lion share.

Of course. what did you expect? Crime is a REAL problem in T&T

Breds, the sad face was for the traffic. I have no issue with NS getting the lion share because our internal security is in shambles.
so has the crime issue been due to underfunding at National security ? Ok. Here's a idea ( nb: not mine, but I like it ), as done in other parts of the world, anybody especially the top dawgs, who have been found and convicted of being involved in funding of criminal activities, all assets - including immediate family assets seized and sold..similarly all officers of the law to be court marshalled, but no deals, general population .i.e. All criminals...surely deals may be made to ensure convictions, eg. Private cells.i.e.yes not part of general prison population but no buy out can occur here. No special privileges ,just as much National security as can be provided. These assets would pay for themselves. Whether be drugs or white collar issues, seize and sell their assets. The clicos, life sports,the corner pusher, the adult mugger,..for lesser crimes that does not affect or injure members of the population, strike rule..yes, we will give u opportunity to walk the right path or hide yuh stuff from us.. Since we have relationship with other countries, come to agreement to acquire/borrow manpower and patrol with local forces,  ensuring we do not suddenly live in an army state. Use proceeds of sales of assets to offset these initiatives.
I do think, the lion's share should go to the social programs,security for such workers in the troubled areas,and other such initiatives, however, I honestly, don't know what that ministry is. Probably, mental health.. I just prattling and brain storming doh..so any criticism or extrapolation of such welcome


I will just accept your response as someone who is just rambling out of frustration.  :D

Like you said in part of your ramble.. "You don't know".. "Probably", therefore leaving us to believe your response was not well thought through.  You would also want the lion share of the budget go to social programs. Ok I understand critical thinking is not your forte  :D
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« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2015, 02:20:45 PM »
I eh see how much of that going into sport? I don't see the RR being built in the near future either. More important priorities to attend first. So brace for traffic  :(National security get the lion share.

Of course. what did you expect? Crime is a REAL problem in T&T

Breds, the sad face was for the traffic. I have no issue with NS getting the lion share because our internal security is in shambles.
so has the crime issue been due to underfunding at National security ? Ok. Here's a idea ( nb: not mine, but I like it ), as done in other parts of the world, anybody especially the top dawgs, who have been found and convicted of being involved in funding of criminal activities, all assets - including immediate family assets seized and sold..similarly all officers of the law to be court marshalled, but no deals, general population .i.e. All criminals...surely deals may be made to ensure convictions, eg. Private cells.i.e.yes not part of general prison population but no buy out can occur here. No special privileges ,just as much National security as can be provided. These assets would pay for themselves. Whether be drugs or white collar issues, seize and sell their assets. The clicos, life sports,the corner pusher, the adult mugger,..for lesser crimes that does not affect or injure members of the population, strike rule..yes, we will give u opportunity to walk the right path or hide yuh stuff from us.. Since we have relationship with other countries, come to agreement to acquire/borrow manpower and patrol with local forces,  ensuring we do not suddenly live in an army state. Use proceeds of sales of assets to offset these initiatives.
I do think, the lion's share should go to the social programs,security for such workers in the troubled areas,and other such initiatives, however, I honestly, don't know what that ministry is. Probably, mental health.. I just prattling and brain storming doh..so any criticism or extrapolation of such welcome


I will just accept your response as someone who is just rambling out of frustration.  :D

Like you said in part of your ramble.. "You don't know".. "Probably", therefore leaving us to believe your response was not well thought through.  You would also want the lion share of the budget go to social programs. Ok I understand critical thinking is not your forte  :D
nope.. as you hint that critical thinking is yours, please pass the knowledge. I am willing to listen/read and learn. what are your well thought out suggestions. Open discussion, no insults. well,unless u know my type so well and have already determined, i'm not even capable of learning. Go ahead. Educate, don't denigrate

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« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2015, 06:26:45 PM »
Here is a start  of idea exchange , I just chose a few at random, readily available, no particular reason.

http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/en/reseau/services.php             select Social problems see if any of it may apply

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/forum/e081/e081f-eng.shtml
http://lionheart.org/prison/
https://www.guelphhumber.ca/fcss
http://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/your-family/parenting/social-services-and-your-family/
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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2015, 05:36:28 PM »
Here is a start  of idea exchange , I just chose a few at random, readily available, no particular reason.

http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/en/reseau/services.php             select Social problems see if any of it may apply

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/forum/e081/e081f-eng.shtml
http://lionheart.org/prison/
https://www.guelphhumber.ca/fcss
http://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/your-family/parenting/social-services-and-your-family/


Pumping more money into social services is not the answer, if anything you do not want to establish a culture where one is reliant on handouts. I am in support for assistance of those who need help to get back on their feet but not to the extreme where large portions of the national budget that is derived from tax payers dollars and national revenue is going towards handouts.


As for social problems go hand in hand with family values and discipline. The Govt can pump all the billions of dollars you are dreaming for in the budget for social programs but to solve this problem families have to take responsibility. This problem will always exist in a society where parents are not taking the responsibility to instill morals and values in their children. One of many examples is the value for hard work and gradual success has been replaced by getting rich quick (sometimes by illegal means).

 
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« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2015, 05:41:07 PM »

T&T MINISTER OF FOREIGN AND CARICOM AFFAIRS DELIVERS FIRST ADDRESS TO UNITED NATIONS' GENERAL ASSEMBLY

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/videos/10153684535782996/

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« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2015, 05:55:34 PM »

VIDEO Report; https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/videos/10153685094357996/

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MINISTER IMBERT AT CHAMBER

The Minister of Finance says if the government had removed the entire fuel subsidy it could have led to an uprising in the country similar to what happened in Nigeria.

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« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2015, 06:42:23 PM »
Here is a start  of idea exchange , I just chose a few at random, readily available, no particular reason.

http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/en/reseau/services.php             select Social problems see if any of it may apply

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/forum/e081/e081f-eng.shtml
http://lionheart.org/prison/
https://www.guelphhumber.ca/fcss
http://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/your-family/parenting/social-services-and-your-family/


Pumping more money into social services is not the answer, if anything you do not want to establish a culture where one is reliant on handouts. I am in support for assistance of those who need help to get back on their feet but not to the extreme where large portions of the national budget that is derived from tax payers dollars and national revenue is going towards handouts.


As for social problems go hand in hand with family values and discipline. The Govt can pump all the billions of dollars you are dreaming for in the budget for social programs but to solve this problem families have to take responsibility. This problem will always exist in a society where parents are not taking the responsibility to instill morals and values in their children. One of many examples is the value for hard work and gradual success has been replaced by getting rich quick (sometimes by illegal means).
What if the Morality & Values has skipped the parents generation, who is to show the children and those parents the way ? I'm not purporting that we add more financial welfare, but more moral building blocks to mend the social fibre that has obviously deteriorated. The problem is not the parents alone, it all of ours, we all have to handle it together. If even by setting examples and lending our assistance where necessary, better guided by people who study and understand the behavioural issues and startegies required.

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What if the Morality & Values has skipped the parents generation, who is to show the children and those parents the way ? I'm not purporting that we add more financial welfare, but more moral building blocks to mend the social fibre that has obviously deteriorated. The problem is not the parents alone, it all of ours, we all have to handle it together. If even by setting examples and lending our assistance where necessary, better guided by people who study and understand the behavioural issues and startegies required.

this  :applause:

always dem problem, or UNC or PNM .. "YOUR Gov't.. never "our"! We don't take ownership (as SP said - responsibility)


Yuh notice we done start seeing the same sort of 'blame' thing like when PP took office. Rather than saying we have x.y and z problem and lets deal with it.



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« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2015, 08:11:38 PM »


James: Budget favourably received by the population

https://www.facebook.com/cnewslive/videos/10153625163830610/

The 2016 budget was favourably received by the population. Political Analyst Dr. Winford James said the 2016 fiscal measures and noted that there seems to be an attitude of accommodation on the part of the population. Dr. James said the budget was in line with what was outlined in the PNM Manifesto
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« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2015, 10:34:08 PM »
Here is a start  of idea exchange , I just chose a few at random, readily available, no particular reason.

http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/en/reseau/services.php             select Social problems see if any of it may apply

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/forum/e081/e081f-eng.shtml
http://lionheart.org/prison/
https://www.guelphhumber.ca/fcss
http://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/your-family/parenting/social-services-and-your-family/


Pumping more money into social services is not the answer, if anything you do not want to establish a culture where one is reliant on handouts. I am in support for assistance of those who need help to get back on their feet but not to the extreme where large portions of the national budget that is derived from tax payers dollars and national revenue is going towards handouts.


As for social problems go hand in hand with family values and discipline. The Govt can pump all the billions of dollars you are dreaming for in the budget for social programs but to solve this problem families have to take responsibility. This problem will always exist in a society where parents are not taking the responsibility to instill morals and values in their children. One of many examples is the value for hard work and gradual success has been replaced by getting rich quick (sometimes by illegal means).
What if the Morality & Values has skipped the parents generation, who is to show the children and those parents the way ? I'm not purporting that we add more financial welfare, but more moral building blocks to mend the social fibre that has obviously deteriorated. The problem is not the parents alone, it all of ours, we all have to handle it together. If even by setting examples and lending our assistance where necessary, better guided by people who study and understand the behavioural issues and startegies required.

Not disagreeing with you. But like I said discipline and values are instilled from home. Yes the Govt can have programs and workshops to help with the problem and as a community we can address the problems BUT the parents and guardians at home are always the FIRST ones to mould their children to becoming future good productive citizens or lawless parasites of T&T

Now tell me what type of environment do you think this young girl has at home? Don't be shy, what comes to mind first? And this is just one out of many I can show you.

https://www.facebook.com/231192483608140/videos/944120415648673/

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« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2015, 11:32:31 AM »
at work now, can't open FB will check laterMy point is. the discipline and values are NOT in the home. I saw this going out the door from since my time when my parents chose to send me away in '71. We have allways been a very free open society, but there is always a price to be paid with freedom...usually discipline, and wrong follow wrong without any restraint.  In many cases,
The parents either ignore or are ignorant to what the child does. (u know how much crap, i a GOOD boy get away with ?) Not that i did anything bad by today's standards, but my parents were totally oblivious to where i was. Them think I in savannah playing football, but I down in Chag, gone for a dip. They ketch meh is cutarse, but I never fraid no cutarse. Today's youth, more daring, more dangerous. Many of the GOOD parents are busy making the ends meet and/or have no time to monitor the youth. In some cases the youth from small has been rebellious and uncontrollable and parents have little control. they are still just parents..and especially when you have parents with weaknesses and morality issues, cause they themselves do what they learned to survive. , then you have nothing but the street and media to teach. Bad teachers.

I have very good kids, they love, respect and listen to me yet fraid meh to bad, cause they have seen me lose it. Yet, You think I can make them do what I want ? I constantly negotiating. Many ppl today, parents included do not have that time to invest and teach.

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« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2015, 03:27:47 PM »
at work now, can't open FB will check laterMy point is. the discipline and values are NOT in the home. I saw this going out the door from since my time when my parents chose to send me away in '71. We have allways been a very free open society, but there is always a price to be paid with freedom...usually discipline, and wrong follow wrong without any restraint.  In many cases,
The parents either ignore or are ignorant to what the child does. (u know how much crap, i a GOOD boy get away with ?) Not that i did anything bad by today's standards, but my parents were totally oblivious to where i was. Them think I in savannah playing football, but I down in Chag, gone for a dip. They ketch meh is cutarse, but I never fraid no cutarse. Today's youth, more daring, more dangerous. Many of the GOOD parents are busy making the ends meet and/or have no time to monitor the youth. In some cases the youth from small has been rebellious and uncontrollable and parents have little control. they are still just parents..and especially when you have parents with weaknesses and morality issues, cause they themselves do what they learned to survive. , then you have nothing but the street and media to teach. Bad teachers.

I have very good kids, they love, respect and listen to me yet fraid meh to bad, cause they have seen me lose it. Yet, You think I can make them do what I want ? I constantly negotiating. Many ppl today, parents included do not have that time to invest and teach.

So let me ask yuh ah question eh. So these so called good parents who too busy to be involved in a meaningful way in their children lives have time to fete? what about lime? how about being in the rum shop drinking for hours? eh? Are they too busy for all of dat? You want billions more spent on social programs to get them to change these habits?

How many of these so called good very busy parents you have mentioned take the time to have meaningful discussion with their children about school? about their children friends? What issues are bothering their children in class, in life, in the community? Iz Fathers engaging their daughters on the topic of sex and what type of man should be involved in their daughters future? or dey just too busy like yuh say?

My point is your desire to have more government finances involved does have some merits but the buck starts and stops at home with the parents because you can have all the educational workshops and programs in the school BUT the environment you go home to is most influential. So until parents and families take responsibility for their own families future you would not have presented an appropriate solution to a complex disease that is widespread in T&T today.
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« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2015, 10:28:56 PM »
Boss, I ent make it how it is. I can't say how or why. I only telling yuh as I see, and you calling it as you see too. Yeah, it shouldn't be so, yeah, it should be as you say. but who is to show that, is additional policing the answer ? more jails ? more patrol boats ? you, me, or bonafide leaders, and ppl who study social behaviours, methods and strategies ?

add:unlike many, I do not propose to have all the answers or think there is only one answer. I just suggested a possible method not previously or substantially implemented. If someone thinks that something as suggested won't help and the tried methods are to be stuck with, I cannot debate the possible outcomes or shortfalls. It is not my area of expertise, yet over the course of years it seems that past methods are not working, shouldn't we along with those then try to implement something else ?
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