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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on October 03, 2008, 03:58:14 AM
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Trinidad's Joe Public stuns Atlante in Cancun.
CANCUN, Mexico – Roen Nelson scored his second goal of the CONCACAF Champions League™ in the 57th minute and Joe Public FC stunned Mexico’s Atlante FC 1:0 Thursday to restore its hopes in the continental competition.
The victory gave Joe Public three points and moved it into a tie for third with CD Olimpia in Group C as the phase of the competition reached its midpoint. Montreal leads the group with seven points, three more than Atlante, which last week was held to a 0:0 draw by the Impact.
Joe Public, coming off a penalty kick loss to W Connection in the Trinidad & Tobago First Citizen’s Cup final six days earlier, appeared content to absorb pressure and counterattack, largely limiting the Mexican side to chances from distance.
Nelson, who last scored in a 4:0 victory over the New England Revolution in the Preliminary Round, converted on one of Joe Public’s few chances. A free kick was headed into the path of Nelson, who escaped his marker, Giancarlos Maldonado, and found himself alone on the left side of the penalty area.
Nelson calmly struck a right-footed volley from 12 yards that left goalkeeper Frederico Vilar with no chance.
The loss snapped a five-game unbeaten streak for Atlante and eight without a loss at home.
The goal seemed to spark Atlante, resulting in several good chances, most notably by Maldonado.
He shot high in the 59th while unmarked at the right post and then forced Joe Public goalkeeper Alejandro Figueroa into a reaction save in the 62nd.
Both teams finished the game with 10 men when Jose Carevic of Atlante was ejected for a foul in the third minute of injury time and Joe Public's Gregory Richardson followed with a red card for dissent.
Joe Public will play its next two games at home, on Wednesday against Montreal and on 21 October against Atlante.
Two of Atlante’s remaining three games are away from home, starting next week when it travels to Honduras on Wednesday to face Olimpia and followed by the return leg against Joe Public.
Atlante FC: - 3-Federico Vilar; 17-Daniel Guerrero, 14-Ignacio Hierro, 20-Andrés Carevic, 29-Daniel García (2-Javier David Muñoz 46th); 15-Arturo Muñoz, 27-Raymundo Torres, 28-Fernando Herrera, 7-Fernando Navarro (18-Christian Bermúdez 51st); 25-José Omar Cervantes (11-Luis Gabriel Rey 46th), 9-Giancarlo Maldonado.
Coach: - José Guadalupe Cruz.
Joe Public: - 1-Alejandro Figueroa; 23-Keyeno Thomas, 20-Christopher Harvey, 13-Jason Springer, 19-Carlyle Mitchell, 8-Dale Saunders; 10-Lyndon Andrews (30-Silas Spann 63rd), 17-Kerry Baptiste, 14-Roen Nelson, 21-Gregory Richardson, 16-Kerry Noray (7-Shane Calderon 72nd).
Coach: - Keith Griffith.
CONCACAF.COM
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This is the biggest result in the history of Trinidad club football.
This has to be a first!! I know connection beat chivas in Trinidad but i sure no one even expected joe public to make a note in mexico.
ah love it!!
nb: Thank you joe public for flying de PFL flag high!!
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Here's the highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4i53qjQtcw)
Kingman
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This is the biggest result in the history of Trinidad club football.
This has to be a first!! I know connection beat chivas in Trinidad but i sure no one even expected joe public to make a note in mexico.
ah love it!!
nb: Thank you joe public for flying de PFL flag high!!
I believe so too, but question, when Army won the earlier version of this tournament in 85, did they have similar high profile wins? One would assume so since they won the tournament outright, Tallman, whey yuh?
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was this on fox soccer channel? i missed this
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HAHAHAHA.
Great result. Honestly, if at the begnning of the tournament you said they would lose the first two away games and win at home, I would have thought that the most likely set of results. Winning away in Mexico makes up for the home loss and puts JP where they would probably deserve to be realistically after 3 rounds of games. If JP can beat Montreal at home in the next game..things will be blown wide open in the group.
By the way..allyuh eh find the stadium look like the HC in them highlights ;D
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well done JP. would have liked to see the game though cuz highlights showin a few missed sitters. seem like the karate kid really special.
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So Chubby run things better than Dwarika in the middle or what?
I find Dwarika kept tryign too many through balls in the last two games, and not once did the pass get past the defenders.
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:applause: but dey still need tuh wok on dey passin, men passin de ball and just give in it away..
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How about Derek King being referred to as keith Griffith whole night ??
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The most frustrating thing about watching JP play is how the midfield collapse in defence especially through the middle and in transition.
Men just dropping their heads and jogging back and not getting goalside.
Keyano was great as usual last night in the defence !
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This game funny boy,it will still have those who will rate JP a shyt team,even Nelson is no good and look the team without Dwarika did well against guess who a Mexican team in Mexico,sometimes i wonder if is Jack or JP we really refering too,at least McComie is gone so that helping a bit.It have some peeps always waiting for you to lose.
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This game funny boy,it will still have those who will rate JP a shyt team,even Nelson is no good and look the team without Dwarika did well against guess who a Mexican team in Mexico,sometimes i wonder if is Jack or JP we really refering too,at least McComie is gone so that helping a bit.It have some peeps always waiting for you to lose.
Is like you does just siddung and wait fuh any opportunity tuh take people opinion and throw it in dey face or what dred? 'Bout "this game funny". De game ent funny people just have they own opinions. JP was very good against NE and men was overrating them. They come and pull stones against Montreal and men blast them fuh it... what any of that have to do with yuh fadda Jack?
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Congrate big win dat
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Great result. Sorry I had to miss it even though it sound like it was painful to watch.
ps:was there a suspicion of hand ball from the player who brought down the ball before Nelson score?
pss: I was one of those who bad talk Nelson since the NE game but I can't comment on him tonight other than for the goal. Let me put on mih disgruntled coat...
"Golazo my ---, you really think he was TRYING to do the more complicated thing and aim for the far post top corner? *steups* Fluke shot... :devil:
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This game funny boy,it will still have those who will rate JP a shyt team,even Nelson is no good and look the team without Dwarika did well against guess who a Mexican team in Mexico,sometimes i wonder if is Jack or JP we really refering too,at least McComie is gone so that helping a bit.It have some peeps always waiting for you to lose.
when last take ennn some pro-league matches?
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saw de game last nite.noray played well.public had real sweet chances in de 2nd half.nelson volley was nice.
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This game funny boy,it will still have those who will rate JP a shyt team,even Nelson is no good and look the team without Dwarika did well against guess who a Mexican team in Mexico,sometimes i wonder if is Jack or JP we really refering too,at least McComie is gone so that helping a bit.It have some peeps always waiting for you to lose.
Is like you does just siddung and wait fuh any opportunity tuh take people opinion and throw it in dey face or what dred? 'Bout "this game funny". De game ent funny people just have they own opinions. JP was very good against NE and men was overrating them. They come and pull stones against Montreal and men blast them fuh it... what any of that have to do with yuh fadda Jack?
Aye Breds JP getting pong ever since they were formed,weather they play good bad or ugly,they tired win the Pro league and beat all the so called better teams in the country,you all never give that team any credit,their Coach was the worst and still is,they have one or two foreign players peeps have problems with that.
You saying i does just siddung and wait,yes i does siddung and wait because that's what everybody does on here,just wait for not just JP to lose but T&T too,if you know anything about Football you will know why they lost against Montreal but it have certain peeps i will not discuss Football with that's why i don't discuss Football on this forum.
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Based on what JP has done so far anybody think the TT Pro league should get 1 automatic spot to the CCL? Or even based on the home results that other Pro League teams have had when the competition was the CCC. Jabloteh mashing up Chicago fire 5-2 and W Connection beating Chivas 1-0. I could be wrong but I don't think any MLS team has beaten a Mexican team in Mexico.
I am tempted to say that if MLS can get 4 automatic spots (and they have been woeful so far) then maybe we should get 1 automatic spot. Keep in mind that Joe Public is in 6th or 7th place in the league. Who knows what one of the higher placed teams would do.
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Aye Breds JP getting pong ever since they were formed,weather they play good bad or ugly,they tired win the Pro league and beat all the so called better teams in the country,you all never give that team any credit,their Coach was the worst and still is,they have one or two foreign peeps have problems with that.
You saying i does just siddung and wait,yes i does siddung and wait because that's what everybody does on here,just wait for not just JP to lose but T&T too,if you know anything about Football you will know why they lost against Montreal but it have certain peeps i will not discuss Football with that's why i don't discuss Football on this forum.
As much as I hear what yuh saying... I still disagree with yuh first post. When man criticizing de soca warriors 9/10 it is justified in my mind... you and others free to disagree. Same with JP... when they beat up NE man start all kinda talk how the Pro League better than de "shitty" MLS... den ah A-League team come and manners dem twice. Now they beat a Mexican team at home and is de greatest accomplishment fuh ah local team. As I said after the Montreal loss... dis is the main reason I doh get too high or too low with local teams.
The harsh truth is that none of our teams, whether national team or professional teams... are good enough to the point that they are posting consistent results on a regular basis. Good games will be followed by horrendous showings and vice versa. We lack quality... plain and simple. Quality is what breeds consistency... as the saying goes, form is temporary, class is permanent... in my mind quality is that necessary intermediary between form and class.
All that said, it's silly to go overboard with praise or the blame, living and dying with each game. Equally silly in my mind to sit in silence and just pounce conveniently on every opportunity to reproach men about things said weeks, months in the past... and do so repeatedly. But whatever... can't tell men what and how to post.
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Did Derek King play for T&T under 17 back in de eightiess?
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This is the biggest result in the history of Trinidad club football.
This has to be a first!! I know connection beat chivas in Trinidad but i sure no one even expected joe public to make a note in mexico.
ah love it!!
nb: Thank you joe public for flying de PFL flag high!!
I believe so too, but question, when Army won the earlier version of this tournament in 85, did they have similar high profile wins? One would assume so since they won the tournament outright, Tallman, whey yuh?
My understanding is that teh Army ended up sharing the title. Lack of funding led to the decision as the competition could not be completed.
PS I may be wrong Coops will know better
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Did Derek King play for T&T under 17 back in de eightiess?
No the nineties... he was the U-17 captain for qualifiers for the U-17 World Cup in Egypt 97.
Then Bertille take him under he wing from around 99 to 04 on the senior team... I eh know wha happen to he after that... like he overs football after ppl start to call him Bertille son
Cornell Glen, Scott Sealy, Kester Cornwall, Isa Ar-Razi, Kerwyn Jack, Andres Alexander, Gary Gibbings was on that same U-17 side...
Big players like Josh Johnson and Kerry Baptiste and also FF :'( did not make the final team... (yes ah grouping up meh name with dem fellas ;D )
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Big players like FF :'( did not make the final team... (yes ah grouping up meh name with dem fellas ;D )
So who end up gettin de Aqua Engineer wuk? ;D
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Big players like FF :'( did not make the final team... (yes ah grouping up meh name with dem fellas ;D )
So who end up gettin de Aqua Engineer wuk? ;D
Me eh know nah... but ah woulda take it oui... :rotfl:
The staff find meh water bottle throwing and gathering skills was sub-par just like meh game :'(
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Observer,
Army won it outright one year. I think Police was joint champions with one of them CA teams. Tallman????
JP play like "Mr. Hyde" last night. They win. Someone observed that Atlante was still running thru the middle. That is quite thru. JP defence played well to contain their opponents. I did not see the entire game. From what I saw they were holding their own against Atlante.
I thought Dwarika was very much into the game, but someone mentioned that he was trying to do to much and the final passes were going to the wrong men. But I still think he should be on the TT squad. I am biased to Dwarika. I think he still has a little bit of magic. All yuh might disagree with me on that one.
Yes, JP is the first TT team to beat a Mexican team in Mex(Tallman correct me I am in error). But All yuh must remember that game was played in Cancun(sea-level). believe you me that is a big difference from playing in Mex. City, Toluca or Guadalajara.
But congrats to JP. They look rested. they played well.
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Big players like FF :'( did not make the final team... (yes ah grouping up meh name with dem fellas ;D )
So who end up gettin de Aqua Engineer wuk? ;D
Me eh know nah... but ah woulda take it oui... :rotfl:
The staff find meh water bottle throwing and gathering skills was sub-par just like meh game :'(
;D ;D
Dah staff mus be did learn under Wim... >:( 8)
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boy this JP have me rel confuse one minute they playing a pack ah ass the next they knocking ball ::) Well that mean the pro league better than the Mexican league :P
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Die.Hard,
Yuh real jokey!!!!
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Did Derek King play for T&T under 17 back in de eightiess?
No the nineties... he was the U-17 captain for qualifiers for the U-17 World Cup in Egypt 97.
Then Bertille take him under he wing from around 99 to 04 on the senior team... I eh know wha happen to he after that... like he overs football after ppl start to call him Bertille son
Cornell Glen, Scott Sealy, Kester Cornwall, Isa Ar-Razi, Kerwyn Jack, Andres Alexander, Gary Gibbings was on that same U-17 side...
Big players like Josh Johnson and Kerry Baptiste and also FF :'( did not make the final team... (yes ah grouping up meh name with dem fellas ;D )
Ahright then, did we host an international tournament in 87, US, Canada, maybe Argentina.......
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Did Derek King play for T&T under 17 back in de eightiess?
No the nineties... he was the U-17 captain for qualifiers for the U-17 World Cup in Egypt 97.
Then Bertille take him under he wing from around 99 to 04 on the senior team... I eh know wha happen to he after that... like he overs football after ppl start to call him Bertille son
Cornell Glen, Scott Sealy, Kester Cornwall, Isa Ar-Razi, Kerwyn Jack, Andres Alexander, Gary Gibbings was on that same U-17 side...
Big players like Josh Johnson and Kerry Baptiste and also FF :'( did not make the final team... (yes ah grouping up meh name with dem fellas ;D )
I remember Gibbins as a lil yute comin around when he fadder was coachin de U-16 side, culd tell he wulda turn out to be a decent player...
Tell dem bout yuhself FF, dey eh know iz only b/c yuh decide to become a scholar (skuller ;D) why yuh overs football :beermug: :beermug:
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i nearly forget congrats Joe Public :beermug:
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If JP could go to Mexico and beat one of the best clubs in Central America why cant TT beat Guatemala in their backyard.
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If JP could go to Mexico and beat one of the best clubs in Central America why cant TT beat Guatemala in their backyard.
thats a very general statement lol..maybe cause T&T will be playing guat instead of atlante (unless you saying they both the same team and they both have the same players that will give the same performance)...or maybe you saying JP and T&T national team is the same..or maybe yuh think guat will give T&T that same performance in guat like what atlante give JP...I dunno explain fuh meh nah..just sayin
* i had to re-edit my post cause i said Mex instead of guat* :-\
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Observer,
Army won it outright one year. I think Police was joint champions with one of them CA teams. Tallman????
Army were joint winners in 1978, and won it outright in 1985. Police reached de final in 1991, but get beat by Puebla
I thought Dwarika was very much into the game, but someone mentioned that he was trying to do to much and the final passes were going to the wrong men. But I still think he should be on the TT squad. I am biased to Dwarika. I think he still has a little bit of magic. All yuh might disagree with me on that one.
Ahmmm...yuh get tie up. Dwarika didn't play last night because he did get ah red card in de last game against CD Olimpia. Yuh referring to Kerry Noray. Yuh shoulda know dat it wasn't Dwarika, because Dwarika doh hustle like dat. ;D
Yes, JP is the first TT team to beat a Mexican team in Mex(Tallman correct me I am in error).
As far as I know, dis is correck.
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Tallman,
I stand corrected. The stream I was watching was pixellated quite a bit. But he can passed for Dwa.You right he did hustle a lot. We both of them should b on the TT team, at least one starting.
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Aye Breds JP getting pong ever since they were formed,weather they play good bad or ugly,they tired win the Pro league and beat all the so called better teams in the country,you all never give that team any credit,their Coach was the worst and still is,they have one or two foreign peeps have problems with that.
You saying i does just siddung and wait,yes i does siddung and wait because that's what everybody does on here,just wait for not just JP to lose but T&T too,if you know anything about Football you will know why they lost against Montreal but it have certain peeps i will not discuss Football with that's why i don't discuss Football on this forum.
As much as I hear what yuh saying... I still disagree with yuh first post. When man criticizing de soca warriors 9/10 it is justified in my mind... you and others free to disagree. Same with JP... when they beat up NE man start all kinda talk how the Pro League better than de "shitty" MLS... den ah A-League team come and manners dem twice. Now they beat a Mexican team at home and is de greatest accomplishment fuh ah local team. As I said after the Montreal loss... dis is the main reason I doh get too high or too low with local teams.
The harsh truth is that none of our teams, whether national team or professional teams... are good enough to the point that they are posting consistent results on a regular basis. Good games will be followed by horrendous showings and vice versa. We lack quality... plain and simple. Quality is what breeds consistency... as the saying goes, form is temporary, class is permanent... in my mind quality is that necessary intermediary between form and class.
All that said, it's silly to go overboard with praise or the blame, living and dying with each game. Equally silly in my mind to sit in silence and just pounce conveniently on every opportunity to reproach men about things said weeks, months in the past... and do so repeatedly. But whatever... can't tell men what and how to post.
Bakes may be i does come across as though i'm opposing peeps but i don't mean it to be that way,i appreciate everyones views because i do hope they appreciate mine,i'm not here to say weather anyone is right or wrong because i'm not in a position to decide that,i understand and agree with your assessment because it's good standards for any team to work with.The difference with me is that i judge T&T Football different to most,i don't raise my expectations and then get disappointed,we all know the level of our Football but when we lose peeps going nuts,is not to say we are a top team that losing,T&T has always been inconsistent,in that respect we are no different from any other team,look at Haiti and Jamaica they made a WC finals too,where is their Football right now,you all know is one problem i does have on here and that is putting down our Football,weather it's teams/administration etc, i'm not against the criticism but when we suppose to give credit lets give it,i know personally how it feels to be under that kind of pressure.
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Bakes may be i does come across as though i'm opposing peeps but i don't mean it to be that way,i appreciate everyones views because i do hope they appreciate mine,i'm not here to say weather anyone is right or wrong because i'm not in a position to decide that,i understand and agree with your assessment because it's good standards for any team to work with.The difference with me is that i judge T&T Football different to most,i don't raise my expectations and then get disappointed,we all know the level of our Football but when we lose peeps going nuts,is not to say we are a top team that losing,T&T has always been inconsistent,in that respect we are no different from any other team,look at Haiti and Jamaica they made a WC finals too,where is their Football right now,you all know is one problem i does have on here and that is putting down our Football,weather it's teams/administration etc, i'm not against the criticism but when we suppose to give credit lets give it,i know personally how it feels to be under that kind of pressure.
Yuh does raise mih pressure sometimes... but yuh make plenty sense here :D
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Bakes may be i does come across as though i'm opposing peeps but i don't mean it to be that way,i appreciate everyones views because i do hope they appreciate mine,i'm not here to say weather anyone is right or wrong because i'm not in a position to decide that,i understand and agree with your assessment because it's good standards for any team to work with.The difference with me is that i judge T&T Football different to most,i don't raise my expectations and then get disappointed,we all know the level of our Football but when we lose peeps going nuts,is not to say we are a top team that losing,T&T has always been inconsistent,in that respect we are no different from any other team,look at Haiti and Jamaica they made a WC finals too,where is their Football right now,you all know is one problem i does have on here and that is putting down our Football,weather it's teams/administration etc, i'm not against the criticism but when we suppose to give credit lets give it,i know personally how it feels to be under that kind of pressure.
Yuh does raise mih pressure sometimes... but yuh make plenty sense here :D
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Cheers man! :beermug:
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Well done Joe Public!!!
Keep the T&T Flag flying!!!
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boy i come into de 2nd half and saying to mehself how Dwarika playing so good and tackling men hard and ting, like he looking for a call-up, den de announcer start calling him Noray, and ah ready to fire him up oui...is only after ah get a few close-ups ah realize is not Dwarika :rotfl:
anyway good result, but for anybody who eh see de game, JP defence give dem mexicans nuff chance (and i do mean nuff chance) to tie/win de game and dey didn't oblige.
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Everybody talking but nobody bother to give the Keeper some props for a very good effort.
It was he who kept them in the game in the second half. AT one pt. making a great reflex save going down low to stop a bullet that was blasted through a maze of defenders.
JP stifled the Mexicans. But yes they were a bit lucky at times. However, not bad considering they were in Mexico.
VB
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:applause:
I'm impressed w/the quality and character displayed along/w this win.Ah
think we need to refine the way we enter into tackles to economiz we
yellow cards.No need to ride ah man w/he back tuh your gaol in the
middle 1/3. Nice Game. Congrats. My .02.
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They defended as a group and tried to force Atlanta to shoot from the outside.
I was a bit horrified at how often they just gave away the ball. But at the end of the day, a nice shocker.
VB
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http://www.tvgolo.com/football.php?subaction=showfull&id=1223042928&archive=&start_from=&ucat=49&
check d highlights here fellas and ladies ...
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If JP could go to Mexico and beat one of the best clubs in Central America why cant TT beat Guatemala in their backyard.
As you noted,its a very general statement...no technicalities .
thats a very general statement lol..maybe cause T&T will be playing guat instead of atlante (unless you saying they both the same team and they both have the same players that will give the same performance)...or maybe you saying JP and T&T national team is the same..or maybe yuh think guat will give T&T that same performance in guat like what atlante give JP...I dunno explain fuh meh nah..just sayin
* i had to re-edit my post cause i said Mex instead of guat* :-\
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i just have to say what i saw in the first half was utter tata, and a steaming pile of it too
terrible first touches
ball watching
lame tracking back
prison yard style tackles
so i was surprised to hear they won the game, they better get thier shit together otherwise they going out faster than they went in
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Joe Public did it, so can T&T...
Lets go Warriors, 1 hour to go....
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Joe Public did it, so can T&T...
Lets go Warriors, 1 hour to go....
I agree Sam
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Not in Mexico city. There is difference. Cancun is at sea level!!!!!!!