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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2011, 11:00:05 AM »
Different kinds of strategies coming starting this week. if the gov't dont budge

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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2011, 11:21:40 AM »
No 20% pay hike for cops
Published: Sat, 2011-02-19 19:58
Richard Lord
 
Works and Transport Minister Jack Minister has dismissed reports that Cabinet had agreed to a 20 per cent pay hike for police officers. The report was carried in another newspaper yesterday. Warner denied the report when questioned about it after yesterday’s sod-turning ceremony to start  construction of an elevated Uriah Butler Highway at the intersection of the Churchill-Roosevelt Highway yesterday. He said the highway project would take a maximum of 24 months to complete.  Warner said about 750 people would be employed at the peak of construction.

He said no decision to approve a 20 per cent hike in salaries for police officers had been taken in the People’s Partnership Cabinet. “The cabinet of which I am a member, we never agreed to that,” Warner insisted. In his address at the ceremony, Warner said that the protest action by police, public servants and others had escalated since the PP Government assumed office, because “the prime minister is a woman, particularly an Indian woman...Everybody want everything same time.”

And he said the breathalyser had not had the desired objectives since being implemented in this country. “Breathalyser tests are done vie-ki-vie, so it hasn’t reduced the drunk driving on the roads, it has not reduced the carnage,” Warner said. He said new measures would have to be implemented to enforce the laws and as a consequence, 85 traffic wardens would be put on the nation’s roads to help curb traffic offences.

Warner also warned motorists against using their mobile phones while driving without hands-free devices. A law, which is now in effect, imposes a fine of $1,500 or three months’ imprisonment for anyone found guilty of breaching it. Warner said mobilisation for the start of construction of the $7.2 billion San Fernando/Point Fortin Highway would begin on Thursday.



no offense, but selecting de 3 most provocative quotes from warner and paraphrasing de rest of de context pass for journalism dese days.  ::)

anyway, back to square one. what will de police give for a 20% raise. it cyar be a "something for nothing" deal.

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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2011, 11:30:22 AM »
You see the thing is this Government is soooooo stupid it's ridiculous. When Sautt was still functioning, Police dare not strike because as you would have known Sautt was incharge of all gang related investigations. In the event of a police strike, investigations would have still taken place because Sautt would have taken up the strike. Disband Sautt and now Police have more bargaining power...!!!

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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2011, 12:33:05 PM »
Buh Congo wah you saying dey is not right, how you could say that you kah say that, the peps have all kind ah  university  degrees and you saying they stupid, so we have stupid people running we corntree darm man all is somthing else we .
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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2011, 10:14:59 PM »
Sloppy work by cops is cause
Published: Wed, 2011-03-02 20:12
Geisha Kowlessar
 
 
Akiel Chambers Often homicide cases are “screwed up from the very beginning” due to sloppy work on the part of the police. According to forensic pathologist Dr Valery Alexandrov, who is assigned to the Forensic Science Centre, St James, because of shoddy work many cases have gone cold. Citing the death of eight-year-old Daniel Guerra as an example, Alexandrov, in an interview yesterday, said while the manner of death may have been determined, the circumstances surrounding it were yet to be decided which may result in the probe becoming cold.

He added: “An autopsy does not solve the crime. It is part of the investigation. The police are supposed to provide certain circumstantial evidence which will include details and photos of the crime scene to paint a more comprehensive picture. “In most cases when a body is brought in the police don’t even know the name of the victim. They would say, ‘we just escorting the body.’ But police work is not an escort service.” He said although he developed a special form to be filled out by police to provide circumstantial information before an autopsy, in most cases that too was ignored.

In Daniel’s case, he said, little or no circumstantial evidence was provided by the police. He added: “The boy’s autopsy will not solve the case. It is the police who have to do their work by properly gathering circumstantial evidence from the very beginning and if that’s not so it would mean the police are lazy. “That’s why we have a detection of rate of seven per cent at best, because from the very onset cases are screwed up by the police because there is no gathering of circumstantial evidence,” Alexandrov said.

 The pathologist wondered whether photographs were taken of tyre marks, or of footprints, near the river where Daniel’s body was found.  Officers from the Crime Scene Unit (CSU), Alexandrov contended, were not properly trained and they “don’t have a clue” about the gathering of forensic evidence.  “In the United States there are medical investigators to gather forensic evidence. In Trinidad most of the police don’t know the difference between blood and decomposition fluid. “Some of the officers don’t know the difference between close and distant range or the different types of calibres,” he said. Alexandrov added that medical investigators work in tandem with the police and were specially trained to detect wounds, rigor mortis and other material relating to pathology.

“The police would then gather the physical evidence,”Alexandrov explained.  Daniel went missing around midday two Fridays ago after leaving his Bedeau Street, Gasparillo, home to go to a nearby parlour.  His body was found in a river off the Tarouba Link Road, San Fernando, two days later.  Alexandrov assisted in the first autopsy which was conducted by pathologist by Dr Eastlyn Mc Donald Borris last Monday and which gave the cause of death as drowning.  A second autopsy, conducted by Dr Hubert Daisley, another pathologist at the mortuary of the San Fernando General Hospital on Thursday, concluded the child was strangled.  A third autopsy, done by United States forensic pathologist Professor James Gill, determined Daniel was murdered, giving “asphyxia consistent with homicide” as the cause.                                                                                                                                                                                                                         About Valery Alexandrov

 Dr Valery Alexandrov was born in Russia in March 1947 and became an American citizen in 1994.  In 2007 he served in T&T as a pathologist under the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), operating at the Forensic Science Centre, St James.  He was subsequently invited back by T&T to work here.  Prior to that, he worked in the state of Michigan in private practice as an independent forensic pathologist/consultant.  Alexandrov has a wealth of experience, including working in several European countries, including Germany and Italy.

He is trained in pathology, forensic pathology, forensic issues in war crimes and torture investigations, forensic and somatic autopsies, anatomic pathology and toxicology.  In 1987, Alexandrov was a member of the International Commission (USSR, Germany, Poland, and Sweden) investigating the mass executions of victims of Joseph Stalin’s purges and various other crimes against humanity.  Daniel Guerra is just the latest young murder victim whose brutal end has prompted a national outpouring of grief and outrage.  Some of the cases are still unsolved.

Here is a look back at some of those cases:

 Sean Luke

Buggered to death: The body of little Sean Luke was found in a canefield near his home at Orange Valley, Couva, on March 28, 2006. The six-year-old, a United States citizen, would have felt no fear, smiling and laughing with the predator until he was stripped of his clothing and killed in a most agonising way.  Pathologist Dr Eastlyn Mc Donald Burris found, during a preliminary examination, the killer inserted a sugarcane stalk into the boy’s rectum, and pushed it until it reached the child’s throat.  His intestines were ruptured and other organs damaged.

He died from internal bleeding.

 Akeel Mitchell, 17, and Richard Chatoo, 20, have been charged with the boy’s brutal murder. They were 13 and 16 when they were arrested.

Tecia Henry

Ten-year-old Tecia Henry went missing on June 12, 2009, and  was found dead in a hole beneath a house in Plaisance Terrace, Laventille. Her partly decomposed corpse was found by a Cepep crew about four days after she went missing. An autopsy revealed the child was strangled. Reputed leader of Laventille’s Block Eight gang Ricardo “Docks” McCarthy, who was suspected of ordering the child’s murder, was discovered shot dead two weeks later. Henry, who lived on Essex Street, John John, with her mother, Diane Henry, and attended the St Rose’s Girls’ Primary School was sent to a nearby parlour but never returned home.

Hope Arismendez

The little girl’s battered and bruised body was found in a canefield in Petersfield, on the outskirts of Felicity, on May 29, 2008.  Hope, eight, was raped, buggered and stabbed to death. Her semi-nude body was left on a dirt road in the canefield, which runs parallel to Pierre Road, Charlieville. Homicide detectives said there was a stab wound to the anus and a knife was recovered from the canefield.  Hours before the victim was to be given her final farewell, her alleged killer Sunil Ali, 28, slashed both his wrists with a razor blade and hanged himself with a bedsheet in his prison cell at the Remand Yard, Golden Grove Prison, Arouca.

Inmates in cells nearby raised an alarm and Ali was found by prisons officers hanging from the ventilation blocks of his number seven cell, located at the Top Security Block on the eastern side of the Remand Yard.

Akiel Chambers

Akiel Chambers, 11, was found floating in a pool at the home of Charles and Annelore James at Haleland Park, Maraval, on May 24, 1998. No one saw Akiel get into the pool but when his body mysteriously surfaced the following day, he was wearing a man’s swimming trunks. An autopsy proved the boy was a victim of sexual assault.

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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2011, 06:50:00 AM »
even if they knew how to gather evidence, they probably  lazy to do it.
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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2011, 07:02:58 AM »
BBC England

Police pay cuts 'unavoidable' says home secretary

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Pay cuts for police officers "must form part of the package" of savings earmarked for the service in England and Wales, the home secretary has said.

Three-quarters of the budget, £11bn, goes on pay, and Theresa May told force leaders in London that must change if job losses were to be avoided.

The government is planning to cut its funding for the police by 20% by 2015.

Mrs May said she wanted officers' pay to be frozen for two years along with that of other public sector workers.

Her speech comes ahead of the publication of a review of police wages and conditions next week.

The review, by former rail regulator Tom Winsor, will consider cuts to overtime payments, and housing and travel allowances, and will also suggest changes to shift patterns, and procedures for retirement and redundancy.
'Extraordinary circumstances'

The home secretary told the meeting in Westminster the government had identified ways of making savings by cutting bureaucracy and improving the procurement of equipment and other services.

But she said: "There's no question that pay restraint and pay reform must form part of the package.

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"No home secretary wants to cut police officers' pay packages, but with a record budget deficit these are extraordinary circumstances."

The government announced last year that it would introduce a two-year pay freeze for all public sector workers earning £21,000 or more.

Mrs May said that subject to any recommendations from the police negotiating board, implementation of the freeze in 2011-12 and 2012-13 would save £350m.

During Prime Minister's Questions, David Cameron said the police were being "let down by a system that has far too many officers in back-office roles".

"That's what needs to change, along with some of the working practices that frankly aren't actually modern and up to date," he said.

"We need to make sure that happens so we keep the maximum number of police on the front line in our communities."

And he added: "As in so many areas we inherited a police service [that was] completely inefficient, not properly managed by the party opposite."

Earlier, the prime minister's official spokesman told reporters: "If you are going to find savings, pay is a good place to start."
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The Association of Chief Police Officers has suggested scrapping a host of additional payments and bonuses, as well as reducing the amount of overtime paid for working on public holidays.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson has also called for an end to all bonuses for police officers.

But the BBC's home affairs correspondent Andy Tighe said there were fears within the Police Federation, which represents officers, that removing additional payments for anti-social or dangerous work could deter high-quality candidates from applying to join the police.

In 2008, the then Labour home secretary Jacqui Smith rejected a recommended pay increase, but was forced to back down after marches by officers.

Last year, a report by the independent Centre for Crime and Justice Studies said spending on overtime in England and Wales had increased by 90% since 1998 despite a record rise in the number of officers.

The police overtime bill in 2009 was nearly £400m.

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how much we officers worth boy?
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Re: Trinidad Police Strike
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2011, 11:34:45 AM »
Sloppy work by cops is cause
Published: Wed, 2011-03-02 20:12
Geisha Kowlessar
 
 
Akiel Chambers Often homicide cases are “screwed up from the very beginning” due to sloppy work on the part of the police. According to forensic pathologist Dr Valery Alexandrov, who is assigned to the Forensic Science Centre, St James, because of shoddy work many cases have gone cold. Citing the death of eight-year-old Daniel Guerra as an example, Alexandrov, in an interview yesterday, said while the manner of death may have been determined, the circumstances surrounding it were yet to be decided which may result in the probe becoming cold.

He added: “An autopsy does not solve the crime. It is part of the investigation. The police are supposed to provide certain circumstantial evidence which will include details and photos of the crime scene to paint a more comprehensive picture. “In most cases when a body is brought in the police don’t even know the name of the victim. They would say, ‘we just escorting the body.’ But police work is not an escort service.” He said although he developed a special form to be filled out by police to provide circumstantial information before an autopsy, in most cases that too was ignored.

In Daniel’s case, he said, little or no circumstantial evidence was provided by the police. He added: “The boy’s autopsy will not solve the case. It is the police who have to do their work by properly gathering circumstantial evidence from the very beginning and if that’s not so it would mean the police are lazy. “That’s why we have a detection of rate of seven per cent at best, because from the very onset cases are screwed up by the police because there is no gathering of circumstantial evidence,” Alexandrov said.

 The pathologist wondered whether photographs were taken of tyre marks, or of footprints, near the river where Daniel’s body was found.  Officers from the Crime Scene Unit (CSU), Alexandrov contended, were not properly trained and they “don’t have a clue” about the gathering of forensic evidence.  “In the United States there are medical investigators to gather forensic evidence. In Trinidad most of the police don’t know the difference between blood and decomposition fluid. “Some of the officers don’t know the difference between close and distant range or the different types of calibres,” he said. Alexandrov added that medical investigators work in tandem with the police and were specially trained to detect wounds, rigor mortis and other material relating to pathology.

“The police would then gather the physical evidence,”Alexandrov explained.  Daniel went missing around midday two Fridays ago after leaving his Bedeau Street, Gasparillo, home to go to a nearby parlour.  His body was found in a river off the Tarouba Link Road, San Fernando, two days later.  Alexandrov assisted in the first autopsy which was conducted by pathologist by Dr Eastlyn Mc Donald Borris last Monday and which gave the cause of death as drowning.  A second autopsy, conducted by Dr Hubert Daisley, another pathologist at the mortuary of the San Fernando General Hospital on Thursday, concluded the child was strangled.  A third autopsy, done by United States forensic pathologist Professor James Gill, determined Daniel was murdered, giving “asphyxia consistent with homicide” as the cause.                                                                                                                                                                                                                         About Valery Alexandrov

 Dr Valery Alexandrov was born in Russia in March 1947 and became an American citizen in 1994.  In 2007 he served in T&T as a pathologist under the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), operating at the Forensic Science Centre, St James.  He was subsequently invited back by T&T to work here.  Prior to that, he worked in the state of Michigan in private practice as an independent forensic pathologist/consultant.  Alexandrov has a wealth of experience, including working in several European countries, including Germany and Italy.

He is trained in pathology, forensic pathology, forensic issues in war crimes and torture investigations, forensic and somatic autopsies, anatomic pathology and toxicology.  In 1987, Alexandrov was a member of the International Commission (USSR, Germany, Poland, and Sweden) investigating the mass executions of victims of Joseph Stalin’s purges and various other crimes against humanity.  Daniel Guerra is just the latest young murder victim whose brutal end has prompted a national outpouring of grief and outrage.  Some of the cases are still unsolved.

Here is a look back at some of those cases:

 Sean Luke

Buggered to death: The body of little Sean Luke was found in a canefield near his home at Orange Valley, Couva, on March 28, 2006. The six-year-old, a United States citizen, would have felt no fear, smiling and laughing with the predator until he was stripped of his clothing and killed in a most agonising way.  Pathologist Dr Eastlyn Mc Donald Burris found, during a preliminary examination, the killer inserted a sugarcane stalk into the boy’s rectum, and pushed it until it reached the child’s throat.  His intestines were ruptured and other organs damaged.

He died from internal bleeding.

 Akeel Mitchell, 17, and Richard Chatoo, 20, have been charged with the boy’s brutal murder. They were 13 and 16 when they were arrested.

Tecia Henry

Ten-year-old Tecia Henry went missing on June 12, 2009, and  was found dead in a hole beneath a house in Plaisance Terrace, Laventille. Her partly decomposed corpse was found by a Cepep crew about four days after she went missing. An autopsy revealed the child was strangled. Reputed leader of Laventille’s Block Eight gang Ricardo “Docks” McCarthy, who was suspected of ordering the child’s murder, was discovered shot dead two weeks later. Henry, who lived on Essex Street, John John, with her mother, Diane Henry, and attended the St Rose’s Girls’ Primary School was sent to a nearby parlour but never returned home.

Hope Arismendez

The little girl’s battered and bruised body was found in a canefield in Petersfield, on the outskirts of Felicity, on May 29, 2008.  Hope, eight, was raped, buggered and stabbed to death. Her semi-nude body was left on a dirt road in the canefield, which runs parallel to Pierre Road, Charlieville. Homicide detectives said there was a stab wound to the anus and a knife was recovered from the canefield.  Hours before the victim was to be given her final farewell, her alleged killer Sunil Ali, 28, slashed both his wrists with a razor blade and hanged himself with a bedsheet in his prison cell at the Remand Yard, Golden Grove Prison, Arouca.

Inmates in cells nearby raised an alarm and Ali was found by prisons officers hanging from the ventilation blocks of his number seven cell, located at the Top Security Block on the eastern side of the Remand Yard.

Akiel Chambers

Akiel Chambers, 11, was found floating in a pool at the home of Charles and Annelore James at Haleland Park, Maraval, on May 24, 1998. No one saw Akiel get into the pool but when his body mysteriously surfaced the following day, he was wearing a man’s swimming trunks. An autopsy proved the boy was a victim of sexual assault.

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so according to this fellow, de police just as dotish as de govt. thing is, is de policeman job to investigate de crimes. ah guess a 20% raise will make dem more competent.  :-\

 

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