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Sports => Football => Topic started by: FireBrand on April 26, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
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T&T await winners of CONCACAF play-offs for 2014 W/Cup qualifiers.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
The North, Central America and Caribbean Zone (CONCACAF) will contest play-off matches in June 2011 in order to reduce the number of teams included in the Preliminary Draw for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil in Rio de Janeiro on July 30 2011.
And from these playoffs, Trinidad and Tobago’s first opponent will be determined, resulting from the subsequent Preliminary Draw.
The region’s ten lowest ranked teams according to March’s FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking were paired against each other to produce a series of five play-off matches which will be played on a two-legged, home and away basis.
Montserrat-Belize
Anguilla-Dominican Republic
US Virgin Islands-British Virgin Islands
Aruba-St. Lucia
Bahamas-Turks and Caicos Islands
The winners of these fixtures will join the remaining 25 higher-ranked teams from the region in the Preliminary Draw. The first leg will be played on Friday 3 June, with the return leg scheduled for Tuesday 7 June.
The teams taking part in this extra preliminary round of fixtures were determined according to their rank in the region on the March FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking. T&T are currently ranked 94th on the world rankings and tenth in Concacaf, one spot behind El Salvador and one above Haiti.
T&T head coach Otto Pfister returns to Port of Spain later this month from his trip to the UK and will conduct his first training session on May 2 at the Ato Boldon Stadium, Couva.
“The head coach returns from his overseas trip shortly and will commence his training with the selected home-based players.
We are in the process of identifying foreign-born players who are eligible to represent Trinidad and Tobago to join the already existing pool of local and foreign-based players.
At the same time we will also play a friendly international on the June 2 FIFA international window and this match will be announced in due course once all arrangements have been confirmed,” TTFF technical adviser Keith Look Loy told TTFF Media on Tuesday.
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wow, i hope the coach look at the team very carefully and do a good job with them.
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any word on the players he approached ?
who were they & if they are genuinely interested ?
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I thought with the new format, they would reduce the number of teams to 32 ??? Not 30. And that there will be 8 groups of 4. What format are they going to use with 30 teams? ???
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I put this thread separately (I expect it to be merged) because I'm seeing differing information as to the WCQ format.
Concacaf.com
04/26/2011World Cup qualifying to begin June 3
(http://www.concacaf.com/javaImages/40/d1/0,,12813~9621824,00.jpg)
NEW YORK - The 10 lowest CONCACAF teams in the FIFA rankings will face off in two-leg series June 3 and June 7, beginning the region's qualifying process for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.
FIFA announced on Tuesday the five preliminary round matchups, which is part of a proposal by the CONCACAF Executive Committee still pending full approval from FIFA that includes three group phases.
If authorized by the FIFA Executive Committee at the end of May at its meeting in Zurich, Switzerland, the winners between Montserrat- Belize, Anguilla- Dominican Republic, U.S. Virgin Islands-British Virgin Islands, Aruba-St. Luca and Bahamas-Turks and Caicos Islands would advance to the first group phase.
They would join the next highest 19 teams from the March 2011 FIFA rankings in one of six, four-team groups set to play from September to November later this year.
The group winners would then qualify for a three-group semifinal round - tentatively set for June-October 2012 -- along with the top six CONCACAF teams from the March FIFA rankings: the United States, Mexico, Honduras, Jamaica, Costa Rica and Cuba.
The top two teams from each of the semifinal round groups would advance to a six-team final round group - referred to by some in previous years as the "Hexagonal" -- to be played from February to October 2013. The final round would determine CONCACAF's three guaranteed berths and a fourth team that will enter a playoff with a side from another confederation for a final place.
Although not yet approved, the preliminary round winners would be included in a pot at the World Cup Preliminary Draw along with Bermuda.
Three other pots would include teams based on the March rankings. Puerto Rico, Barbados, Curacao, St. Vincent, the Cayman Islands and Nicaragua in one; Antigua, Guyana, Suriname, St. Kitts and Nevis, Guatemala and Dominica in another; and Panama Canada, El Salvador, Grenada, Trinidad & Tobago and Haiti in the last.
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Is it me, or does this format sound a bit daunting? :-\
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Panama Canada, El Salvador, Grenada, Trinidad & Tobago and Haiti in the last
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I think it is foolish that they use FIFA rankings to determine something as important as world cup qualifying.
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Don't like the fact that only the group winners of that first group phase will advance. Hopefully we can get our act together in time.
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I think it is foolish that they use FIFA rankings to determine something as important as world cup qualifying.
Why didn't you say something when Jack Warner used November 2007 for the 2010 qualifiers where T&T had an easy road to the HEX. ;)
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Jamaica get a bligh to Round 3! We gotta fight up to come out of Round 2 with the lessers.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/preliminarydraw/01/48/03/97/prelimdrawpotallocations.pdf
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No guarantee we're coming out of that group either. . .Well Otto had a chance to observe Panama and El Salv now he has to know what he has available to him and work his majic. . .
BUT we CAN do it
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GziPPnUselo/SKYz0q8kbXI/AAAAAAAABn4/utEwKS43cZA/s320/IM000183.jpg)
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No guarantee we're coming out of that group either. . .Well Otto had a chance to observe Panama and El Salv now he has to know what he has available to him and work his majic. . .
BUT we CAN do it
You cannot be drawn with teams from your pot.
We will meet teams from the other Pots.. de only strongish team then is Guatemala
... and ah guess Belize and Bermuda ;D
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Yeah just trying to keep you guys on your toes ;)
Thanks
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Jamaica get a bligh to Round 3! We gotta fight up to come out of Round 2 with the lessers.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/preliminarydraw/01/48/03/97/prelimdrawpotallocations.pdf
???If any nation got a bligh. It is Cuba, not Jamaica. If FIFA were to use July rankings for the pots Cuba would be out and Jamaica still in based on the fact that Jamaica is third in CONCACAF.
I guess since Jackula is now gone and an outdated ranking from two years ago won't be used. :rotfl:
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No guarantee we're coming out of that group either. . .Well Otto had a chance to observe Panama and El Salv now he has to know what he has available to him and work his majic. . .
BUT we CAN do it
Breds, yuh read the ting wrong, yuh have tuh read the ting sideways. the top six teams are in pot 4, and yuh have to read the tings from side tuh side.
looks like T&T would be playing guatemala , caymans, st lucia and we have tuh win the group to come out, BTW i thought the draw is on saturday ?
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pfister will eat those teams food, mark my words :beermug:
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No guarantee we're coming out of that group either. . .Well Otto had a chance to observe Panama and El Salv now he has to know what he has available to him and work his majic. . .
BUT we CAN do it
Breds, yuh read the ting wrong, yuh have tuh read the ting sideways. the top six teams are in pot 4, and yuh have to read the tings from side tuh side.
looks like T&T would be playing guatemala , caymans, st lucia and we have tuh win the group to come out, BTW i thought the draw is on saturday ?
no just cool they would randomly draw one team from each pot for 6 groups of 4
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No guarantee we're coming out of that group either. . .Well Otto had a chance to observe Panama and El Salv now he has to know what he has available to him and work his majic. . .
BUT we CAN do it
Breds, yuh read the ting wrong, yuh have tuh read the ting sideways. the top six teams are in pot 4, and yuh have to read the tings from side tuh side.
looks like T&T would be playing guatemala , caymans, st lucia and we have tuh win the group to come out, BTW i thought the draw is on saturday ?
We have our work cut out for us. We have to beat all them teams. We should take all of them seriously. If a scenario comes up with TT and Guat. equal on points, then most goals/goal difference will certainly matter. So this coach better get our team ready to score goals on the so-called weaker teams. No excuses. Coach making big money to prepare this team for the WC, not Panam games, not GC, not Olimpics. The WC in Brazil, sah. No f--king excuses. Winning is the ONLY thing.
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:beermug: Deeks
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great news (provided trini reach final stage). concacaf gonna play oceania this time instead of south america in the playoff. so thats probably new zealand
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We have to reach The last 6 to even have a chance.
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4th place have to face an Asian side AGAIN!?!?!?! they redoing the 2006 World Cup qualifying or what!?!?!?!
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Group B
Trinidad and Tobago
Guyana
Barbados
Bermuda
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Group B
Trinidad and Tobago
Guyana
Barbados
Bermuda
:whistling:
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Mexico
Costa Rica
Winner A
Winner B
Pressure!
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in the next round we would be playing Costa Rica and Mexico .......
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Mexico & Costa Rica
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fawk :( lawd
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fawk :( lawd
thank you latapy and jack camps this makes thing harder ...
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in the next round we would be playing Costa Rica and Mexico .......
and most likely El Salvador.
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>:( There will be challenges for Jamaica's Reggae Boyz, but I really wanted T&T's Soca Warriors in Jamaica's group to knock out T&T and advance to the HEX. That would be "sweet justice". For now ;D ;D
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in the next round we would be playing Costa Rica and Mexico .......
and most likely El Salvador.
the group of death ..... see why rankings important .... that latapy >:( that Warner >:( they screw us up
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wow we are soooo f*(ked!!!!!
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We get a hard group (relatively speaking)
I woulda prefer canada group...they get Honduras, Cuba as the two seeded teams.
I glad we ent get guatemala as they woulda deal with us.
Now if we cyar beat Bim, Guyana and Bermuda we don't deserve to go no world cup...but we go drop points against them...all three is blight teams and they does pull surprises. The heart attack starting earlier this rounds.
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so we group with guyana, b'dos and bermuda.
if we top we get mexico, costa rica and probably panama.
dare i saw no vaseline?
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminarydraw/draw.html
http://www.youtube.com/v/bvRc7pwnt0U
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in the next round we would be playing Costa Rica and Mexico .......
and most likely El Salvador.
the group of death ..... see why rankings important .... that latapy >:( that Warner >:( they screw us up
How Latapy screw us? He was not responsible for organizing matches.
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in the next round we would be playing Costa Rica and Mexico .......
and most likely El Salvador.
the group of death ..... see why rankings important .... that latapy >:( that Warner >:( they screw us up
I don't think you should blame Jackula. Remember the last World Cup draw he used an outdated ranking system which favoured T&T.
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i think the TTFF should petition fifa to move to the OFC. then we might have a chance.
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i think the TTFF should petition fifa to move to the OFC. then we might have a chance.
WOW! Always looking for an easy way in! Jack really spoiled T&T.
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If we good enough, we will qualify, if we not good enough, we will get knocked out!!
It has been a while since we last got a tough draw!
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So looks like
Group A : USA, Jamaica, Guatemala, Haiti
Broup B : Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad & Tobago, El Salvador (Group Of Death)
Group C : Honduras, Panama, Canada, Cuba
Group A, on paper should be USA first, Jamaica second going through
Group B, on paper should be Mexico first, Costa Rica second. Jones and crew will have something to say about that. El Salvadore is on the up, so its between them and T&T to see who can upset CRC and Mex for the first two spots.
Group C - Tough group this as well...My picks are Honduras and Panama. Canada, can spoil the party.
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I glad we ent get guatemala as they woulda deal with us.
Really? Guatemala? I dont know, but these guys seems to quiver whenever they step on the field with JAmaica...you'd think it would be the same when the face T&T (Big strong black men)
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If we good enough, we will qualify, if we not good enough, we will get knocked out!!
It has been a while since we last got a tough draw!
ah fed up point out de fallacy of this viewpoint...
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the great thing about football is that there are no secrets .....I'm sure the old man understands that so we just have to prepare accordingly..
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I glad we ent get guatemala as they woulda deal with us.
Really? Guatemala? I dont know, but these guys seems to quiver whenever they step on the field with JAmaica...you'd think it would be the same when the face T&T (Big strong black men)
I was surprise too when the Canadian coach said he hoped to avoid Guatemala. :o
I assume that since the next round of qualifiers starts in September that FIFA should have the schedule for match days out by the first or second week of August.
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So looks like
Group A : USA, Jamaica, Guatemala, Haiti
Broup B : Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad & Tobago, El Salvador (Group Of Death)
Group C : Honduras, Panama, Canada, Cuba
Group A, on paper should be USA first, Jamaica second going through
Group B, on paper should be Mexico first, Costa Rica second. Jones and crew will have something to say about that. El Salvadore is on the up, so its between them and T&T to see who can upset CRC and Mex for the first two spots.
Group C - Tough group this as well...My picks are Honduras and Panama. Canada, can spoil the party.
you do realize we can upset costa rica ;)
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I glad we ent get guatemala as they woulda deal with us.
Really? Guatemala? I dont know, but these guys seems to quiver whenever they step on the field with JAmaica...you'd think it would be the same when the face T&T (Big strong black men)
I was surprise too when the Canadian coach said he hoped to avoid Guatemala. :o
I assume that since the next round of qualifiers starts in September that FIFA should have the schedule for match days out by the first or second week of August.
Right now I'd say the two side to be feared most in Central America are Panama and Honduras.
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So looks like
Group A : USA, Jamaica, Guatemala, Haiti
Broup B : Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad & Tobago, El Salvador (Group Of Death)
Group C : Honduras, Panama, Canada, Cuba
Group A, on paper should be USA first, Jamaica second going through
Group B, on paper should be Mexico first, Costa Rica second. Jones and crew will have something to say about that. El Salvadore is on the up, so its between them and T&T to see who can upset CRC and Mex for the first two spots.
Group C - Tough group this as well...My picks are Honduras and Panama. Canada, can spoil the party.
you do realize we can upset costa rica ;)
Yes sir...Costa Rica is ripe for the picking. But first you have to deal with El Salvador who will be better this time around than they were last time.
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I glad we ent get guatemala as they woulda deal with us.
Really? Guatemala? I dont know, but these guys seems to quiver whenever they step on the field with JAmaica...you'd think it would be the same when the face T&T (Big strong black men)
I was surprise too when the Canadian coach said he hoped to avoid Guatemala. :o
I assume that since the next round of qualifiers starts in September that FIFA should have the schedule for match days out by the first or second week of August.
Right now I'd say the two side to be feared most in Central America are Panama and Honduras.
That's true. But you know they are saying the same thing about Jamaica. I'm sure the Gold Cup match where Jamaica used six different players is still fresh in their minds. ;D
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So looks like
Group A : USA, Jamaica, Guatemala, Haiti
Broup B : Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad & Tobago, El Salvador (Group Of Death)
Group C : Honduras, Panama, Canada, Cuba
Group A, on paper should be USA first, Jamaica second going through
Group B, on paper should be Mexico first, Costa Rica second. Jones and crew will have something to say about that. El Salvadore is on the up, so its between them and T&T to see who can upset CRC and Mex for the first two spots.
Group C - Tough group this as well...My picks are Honduras and Panama. Canada, can spoil the party.
you do realize we can upset costa rica ;)
Yes sir...Costa Rica is ripe for the picking. But first you have to deal with El Salvador who will be better this time around than they were last time.
i agree, they are playing much better, the only advantage we have is a superior coach to all the other teams in our group, a major setback would be our team hasn't been finalized and we haven't played any warm up games
right now it seems the ttff want to spite our nation and prep because heads are starting to roll, the blue crab in a barrel syndrome
i wish the best to jamaica, i hope they qualify for the hex, i expect TT to be there as well 8)
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The way i see it we have a slim chance of advancing but its still a chance.
Im not worried about El Salvador, we'll handle them, they havent beat us since the 2007 blacklist. They have one player Zeyala but overall as long as we dont take it for granted well beat them twice.
To me the rest is up to the schedule. We always get Mexico for the last game. I dont know how they pick this but it is vital that we get them at home for the last game again when they already would have qualified.
Obviously the two games vs Costa Rica are where this group will be decided. Hopefully we just keep the pressure on them throughout the whole group phase so theyll hopefully make a mistake. Honduras kept the pressure on them during 2010 qualification and they folded in the end.
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The way i see it we have a slim chance of advancing but its still a chance.
Im not worried about El Salvador, we'll handle them, they havent beat us since the 2007 blacklist. They have one player Zeyala but overall as long as we dont take it for granted well beat them twice.
To me the rest is up to the schedule. We always get Mexico for the last game. I dont know how they pick this but it is vital that we get them at home for the last game again when they already would have qualified.
Obviously the two games vs Costa Rica are where this group will be decided. Hopefully we just keep the pressure on them throughout the whole group phase so theyll hopefully make a mistake. Honduras kept the pressure on them during 2010 qualification and they folded in the end.
pfister with the right prep will do well, the ttff is making it hard for the coach like usual
we have a world class coach and they cannot get money for a plane ride and accommodation?
they are trying to sabotage our qualification again, all of a sudden we have no money to pay for a friendly?
the ttff needs to resign because this is a good chance for us to qualify and go to brazil, we have the coach and talent, all we need is a functioning federation
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Im not worried about El Salvador, we'll handle them, they havent beat us since the 2007 blacklist. They have one player Zeyala but overall as long as we dont take it for granted well beat them twice.
If you beat El Salvador twice then you go through to the HEX...but I am sure they are looking at T&T as 6 points as well...In fact I suspect all teams in the group would see T&T as the 6 point team (easier to get a result in POS than anywhere else)
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So looks like
Group A : USA, Jamaica, Guatemala, Haiti
Broup B : Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad & Tobago, El Salvador (Group Of Death)
Group C : Honduras, Panama, Canada, Cuba
Group A, on paper should be USA first, Jamaica second going through
Group B, on paper should be Mexico first, Costa Rica second. Jones and crew will have something to say about that. El Salvadore is on the up, so its between them and T&T to see who can upset CRC and Mex for the first two spots.
Group C - Tough group this as well...My picks are Honduras and Panama. Canada, can spoil the party.
you do realize we can upset costa rica ;)
It can always be done, and there is a first time for everything, but we have never beaten Costa Rica in World Cup Qualifying. As a matter of fact, we have played them 23 times, and only won 3, and drawn 4. We have scored 15 goals, but conceded 50.
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i agree, they are playing much better, the only advantage we have is a superior coach to all the other teams in our group, a major setback would be our team hasn't been finalized and we haven't played any warm up games
right now it seems the ttff want to spite our nation and prep because heads are starting to roll, the blue crab in a barrel syndrome
i wish the best to jamaica, i hope they qualify for the hex, i expect TT to be there as well 8)
What makes you think Pfister us a superior coach having not seen him in action yet with the T&T squad? Pfister is at a distinct disadvantage not knowing anything about the teams in CONCACAF (okay he saw a couole games at the Gold cup)
Unfortunate for him, as it must be frustrating not being able to play a game since he took the job aver 6 mnths ago.
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well look ting
pressure from early
but why peeps on here blaming latas tho? ???
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i agree, they are playing much better, the only advantage we have is a superior coach to all the other teams in our group, a major setback would be our team hasn't been finalized and we haven't played any warm up games
right now it seems the ttff want to spite our nation and prep because heads are starting to roll, the blue crab in a barrel syndrome
i wish the best to jamaica, i hope they qualify for the hex, i expect TT to be there as well 8)
What makes you think Pfister us a superior coach having not seen him in action yet with the T&T squad? Pfister is at a distinct disadvantage not knowing anything about the teams in CONCACAF (okay he saw a couole games at the Gold cup)
Unfortunate for him, as it must be frustrating not being able to play a game since he took the job aver 6 mnths ago.
you think coaching a successful team in africa is easier than concacaf?
don't be an idiot, africa is by far a harder challenge than concacaf, pfister is superior to all other coaches in the region, hands down, he is 2nd to klinsmann now.
there are no other coaches as good as ours, only the ttff is stopping our progress now, with their selfish intentions
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i see ppl dismissing el salvador when we cant even qualify for gold cup...as tallman said there is a first time for everybody, nothing is guaranteed, some things are highly unlikely (i.e. uSA, mexico not qualifying) but anything can happen and that is why the play the game on the field and not paper or xbox.
as for our chances, they are looking real slim right now, even the first group with guyana, bermuda and barbados could be a very tough challenge for us. the team need to focus on those teams and not who they may face after.
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i see ppl dismissing el salvador when we cant even qualify for gold cup...as tallman said there is a first time for everybody, nothing is guaranteed, some things are highly unlikely (i.e. uSA, mexico not qualifying) but anything can happen and that is why the play the game on the field and not paper or xbox.
as for our chances, they are looking real slim right now, even the first group with guyana, bermuda and barbados could be a very tough challenge for us. the team need to focus on those teams and not who they may face after.
Good Point
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Im not worried about El Salvador, we'll handle them, they havent beat us since the 2007 blacklist. They have one player Zeyala but overall as long as we dont take it for granted well beat them twice.
If you beat El Salvador twice then you go through to the HEX...but I am sure they are looking at T&T as 6 points as well...In fact I suspect all teams in the group would see T&T as the 6 point team (easier to get a result in POS than anywhere else)
maybe, maybe not
jamaica didn't make the hex, teams may look at them as an easy target instead of TT, get your facts straight
i knew it wouldn't take you long to attack the TT team, because your a low life, however jamaica needs to prove themselves that they can make the hex this year
TT has done it many times and will this year again, if the ttff doesn't sabotage us again with a poorly prepped team
thats the thing you forget reggaefan, if TT is prepared well like the rest of teams, you cannot stop us, especially with a world class coach, we have talent and ability to beat the big teams
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So no easy pass to the HEX but at the end of the day if we want to be making the trip to Brazil we have to be able to take points off teams like Mexico and Costa Rica. So we might as well look to be doing it before then. :beermug:
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So no easy pass to the HEX but at the end of the day if we want to be making the trip to Brazil we have to be able to take points off teams like Mexico and Costa Rica. So we might as well look to be doing it before then. :beermug:
this plays in our favor because we will have 6 wcq games under our belt before we face mexico and costa rica,
pfister can use those games to work out some kinks and get the team ready for round 3
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Why, are you actually hoping of going somewhere? While the rest of the world cup soccer playing nations are playing international friendlies, be it national teams or clubs from around the around the world loaded with internationals included in their roster, Trinidad and Tobago is training and playing amongst themselves.
Very interesting philosophy.
Damn, if only the rest of the soccer playing world knew about this little secret, maybe they too would adopt this philosophy and forget about playing international friendlies, after all that is just a waste of money, that way the Soca Warriors would have a snows day in hell of a chance to qualify for the 2014 world cup.
Oh, and by the way, if the Warriors qualify for the world cup, what then, is it going to be another fiasco as in 2006. Back then, it was the Soca Warriors first trip to the big dance and we were happy just to be there. No goals for us, but our only saving grace was a tie with Sweden. We still had a party in the neighborhood. We even had Jacko, tie himself up in a ponzie scheme that backfired on him. It was euphoria in the land of the humming bird, but now, fast forward it eight years later, if we qualify for the 2014 world cup, we are not the darlings of the world cup anymore, now we are suppose to be experienced and more advanced in our program, we are suppose to, and probably expected to, beat some people. Oliver Scamps would roll around in his grave to see such a happenings without the assistance of Jack, from the show Jack and Jill.
Al Capone
Lucky Luciano
Pablo Escobar Jr.
The Medellin Cartel
Jack Warner
Oliver Camps
Jeff Skillings
John Boehner
Kenneth Lay
The Executives of World Com
BP
Bernie Madoff
Osama Bin Laden
Maomar Khadaffi
Adolph Hitler
Martha Stewart
The Republican Party
Patrick Manning
Basdeo Panday
Raphael Palmeiro
Sammy Sosa
Barry Bonds
Mark Mcguire
Jose Canseco
Roger Clemence
And the list goes on and on..............................
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well if dis is d kinda attitude, we d supporters done start to adopt before d campaign even start, is best pfister pack up and go home. lewwe doh even bother to put out a team and leh all ah we save we money and doh bother to go any games ::)
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Discussion on now on i95fm about TT football and WCQ
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Discussion on now on i95fm about TT football and WCQ
Now saying we need a formal open foum discussion by all stakeholders to discuss the future of the game...
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jamaica didn't make the hex, teams may look at them as an easy target instead of TT, get your facts straight
i knew it wouldn't take you long to attack the TT team, because your a low life, however jamaica needs to prove themselves that they can make the hex this year
Not attacking your football, just stating facts here.
By the way, Jamaica is currently sitting @ #3 in CONCACAF behind USA and Mexico and just had a 3 game winning streak at the just concluded Gold Cup, where they defeated Honduras, Guatemala, and Grenada on the trot (before going belly up vs the USA). If you look at the jamaica squad and the number of oversas based players that are queing up to join the squad, you would relize that Jamaica has a very good chnace of going all the way this time. Not saying it will definately happen, but I believe you will agree with me based on Jamaicas performance over the past 2 years that teams in CONCACAF will be looking at Jamaica with some degree of respect, especially in Kingston.
The hex this time will be tougher I think, last time Jamaica and Panama were out while T&T and El Salvador got in (both teams eventually finshed in the cellar positions)...I honestly do believe that both Jamaica and Panama will be in this time, along with the other regulars. It will be a tough battle.
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
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you think coaching a successful team in africa is easier than concacaf?
don't be an idiot, africa is by far a harder challenge than concacaf, pfister is superior to all other coaches in the region, hands down, he is 2nd to klinsmann now.
there are no other coaches as good as ours, only the ttff is stopping our progress now, with their selfish intentions
Africa, on the whole, have better talent than teams in CONCACAF...the USA and Mexico can compete with any africa team...so, on the whole, Pfister will be working with less talent (T&T compared to the african teams hes coached), against teams (usa, mex) that are on par with the best in Africa that hes played agaianst (agruably).
His true qualities will have to come to the fore for him to be successfull this stint. It wont be easier than in Africa.
One thing for sure, he is an experience man.
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From i95.5.....If I heard correctly Ruskin Mark is going to represent the contingent of veteran players that will be engaging the TTFF. A discussion forum for interested parties will be set for POS City Hall on September 4th
Hands down the most forthright discussion of the achievements and failures of the football fraternity in a long time.
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Im not worried about El Salvador, we'll handle them, they havent beat us since the 2007 blacklist. They have one player Zeyala but overall as long as we dont take it for granted well beat them twice.
If you beat El Salvador twice then you go through to the HEX...but I am sure they are looking at T&T as 6 points as well...In fact I suspect all teams in the group would see T&T as the 6 point team (easier to get a result in POS than anywhere else)
maybe, maybe not
jamaica didn't make the hex, teams may look at them as an easy target instead of TT, get your facts straight
i knew it wouldn't take you long to attack the TT team, because your a low life, however jamaica needs to prove themselves that they can make the hex this year
TT has done it many times and will this year again, if the ttff doesn't sabotage us again with a poorly prepped team
thats the thing you forget reggaefan, if TT is prepared well like the rest of teams, you cannot stop us, especially with a world class coach, we have talent and ability to beat the big teams
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: I love to hear this song play like an unbroken record. Everyone knows that T&T has been in the HEX and not Jamaica because of "Papa Jack" devious rigging the draw system with outdated rankings.
Know what everyone is asking though: why is it that some Trinis keep boasting that they have been to the HEX more times than Jamaica. Yet they still can't qualify for another World Cup which would give T&T the edge to boast even more over rivals Jamaica. :thinking: :thinking:
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the great thing about football is that there are no secrets .....I'm sure the old man understands that so we just have to prepare accordingly..
The problem is, are we preparing properly when a useful friendly game against Haiti has been cancelled? NO!!
I feel them men running the TTFF have absolutely no shame, if they had one ounce of honour & care for T&T football in their old brittle bones they would resign over letting down our new coach in this way. They can’t even organise a friendly with our poorest Caribbean neighbours Haiti! I wonder whose football is in a worst state right now, Haiti’s or T&T’s?
Look how long Pfister in charge of the team and being paid BIG money by our government and not one decent friendly yet to check his progress with our team!
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
i agree, as of now no hex for us, if get through the first group we will be lucky to get 3 points in the next round. i hope i wrong.
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So no easy pass to the HEX but at the end of the day if we want to be making the trip to Brazil we have to be able to take points off teams like Mexico and Costa Rica. So we might as well look to be doing it before then. :beermug:
this plays in our favor because we will have 6 wcq games under our belt before we face mexico and costa rica,
pfister can use those games to work out some kinks and get the team ready for round 3
Breds, i want we tuh lose all them games with our best players too, let bermuda go through BC they serious bout the football and they deserve it more than lazy bum a$$ T&T.
we not goin nowhere boss, since our football is in the rubble.
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you think coaching a successful team in africa is easier than concacaf?
don't be an idiot, africa is by far a harder challenge than concacaf, pfister is superior to all other coaches in the region, hands down, he is 2nd to klinsmann now.
there are no other coaches as good as ours, only the ttff is stopping our progress now, with their selfish intentions
Africa, on the whole, have better talent than teams in CONCACAF...the USA and Mexico can compete with any africa team...so, on the whole, Pfister will be working with less talent (T&T compared to the african teams hes coached), against teams (usa, mex) that are on par with the best in Africa that hes played agaianst (agruably).
His true qualities will have to come to the fore for him to be successfull this stint. It wont be easier than in Africa.
One thing for sure, he is an experience man.
I go real fackin laugh when jamaica get knocked out de hex again, and it's all BC of you and 2099, BC all talk too much sh!t. :flamethrower:
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What de fack really goin on here?
People done talking about Mexico and Costa Rica already??
Allyuh serious??
We couldnt place in the top 2 in a group with Cuba, Grenada and Martinique, but we thinking that we would "easily" win a group with Barbados, Guyana and Bermuda??
Lets focus on these three teams first!! Lets scout Barbados, Guyana and Bermuda!!
We play these teams in less than 5 weeks but we on dis site chosing to talk about Mexico and Costa Rica (that series doh start until June next year)
We are not the TnT of old, so we cannot afford to take our fellow Caribbean teams lightly anymore.
I love my Soca Warriors, but we aint play ah game for de year..........Jack Warner is not a world power broker anymore and we sports minister is ah Swimming Coach, lol. Imagine we cant afford to fly to Haiti!!
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
the truth !
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I go real fackin laugh when jamaica get knocked out de hex again, and it's all BC of you and 2099, BC all talk too much sh!t. :flamethrower:
What exactly dont you agree with in my post? You dont agree that Africa have more talent than CONCACAF? OR dont you agree that T&T have less talent at its disposal at the moment (based on results over last 12 months or so) than the teams Pfister has coached in Africa?
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I go real fackin laugh when jamaica get knocked out de hex again, and it's all BC of you and 2099, BC all talk too much sh!t. :flamethrower:
What exactly dont you agree with in my post? You dont agree that Africa have more talent than CONCACAF? OR dont you agree that T&T have less talent at its disposal at the moment (based on results over last 12 months or so) than the teams Pfister has coached in Africa?
I agree wid all dat, but what ah don't agree wid is for all the yrs i on this site, i had tuh bare wid you comin here just tuh take ah dump in my yard yr in yr out when ever yuh feel like, with no regard. :frustrated:
i think iz high time yuh start sh!tin in your own yard and leff my yard in peace. meh eh mind yuh comin in my yard (against meh better judgment) but when yuh land keep it cordial!
my football in shambles , yes! my federation ain't sh!t right now , yes! and guess what else? yes ! it's my mudda fackin business , not yours!! so fack off and loww we tuh fix we house, and in the mean time just shut the fack up about it and enjoy your new found success, BC it soon dun!
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We will need the foreign based players for ALL the games.
These players ent kick ah lime together, so all those games with teams like Barbados, Guyana, Bermuda will have to be used to get the teams to gel and play more cohesive, none ah this I cyah show up, all the games are FIFA dates, if we serious about going Brazil they must play together for all the games.
We need the best team everytime to stand any chance
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I believe Otto Pfister is a talented coach. However, he should not be coach of T&T. Heres why:
For some reason, TTFF are totally incapable of running football. Anil should never have agreed to fund Pfister without a complete, budgeted business plan for 2014.
Instead, they should have appointed a local coach on, say, TT$30,000 per month and agreed to use the additional TT$270,000 p.m. to fund overseas trips.
Yes, I know we may not qualify for 2014 with a local coach, but everyone...us, TTFF, govt, must accept that we need to rebuild and focus on 2018. We cannot compete with the likes of USA, Mexico, Canada with a fete match mentality.
Before we spend TT$300,000 pm on a coach, we must get our infrastructure right and get a team used to playing together against international competition.
Its like we can take a loan to buy a Ferrari, but can't afford to insure it or put gas in it. Yeah, we got a Ferrari, but its no use to us in the garage. Instead, I'd rather buy a 20 year old Mustang, gradually restore it and then sell it to buy my Ferrari once I have sufficient income to run the damn thing.
TTFF are completely clueless, and govt should not indulge their fantasies.
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
My thoughts exactly. And now without Jack to massage they testicles and financially compensate for their lack of administrative abilities, these fokkers (TTFF) will continue to stay in power and kill our football. I now have to wait for fokking 2022 or divine intervention for TT to make a WC. Is hurt, when you know you have the potential.
Minister Roberts stop licking Jack ass and put a hand nah.
VB
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
Agreed. Let us think about Russia 2018 instead.
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I think it is foolish that they use FIFA rankings to determine something as important as world cup qualifying.
Why didn't you say something when Jack Warner used November 2007 for the 2010 qualifiers where T&T had an easy road to the HEX. ;)
What you have to like about idiots is that they have no qualms repeating misinformation adhominem i.e. they also tend to to be liars in addition to being jackasses
Feed yourself something intelligent for a change you troll:
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=14965455#post14965455
It might change the quality of the fecal matter you spout here on a daily basis
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Well the good news is that we have games to get the boys in shape ,get the chemistry going before Mexico and Costa Rica. The sad news is that Camps now talking about a business strategy to fund the program. Is he for real. Well hear me out- Anil having return from coaching Bovell111{ Isnt he not to do that as a Minister, will tell mother Kamla it is not politically expedient not to run the bread for the TTFF , plus Anil would like to go to the games in the various Countries so let not your hearts be troubled. All will be well.
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
Agreed. Let us think about Russia 2018 instead.
I hope you not agreeing with the last line of his post, bc that's simply not true! leh palos haul he cyaw, mexico is extremely beatable and so is costa rica and jamaica showed us how!
in the last hex mexico catch hell tuh qualify, we even field ah B team to play them the last game and they couldn't even run over us. costa rica is not strong this last rounds either and it showed in lavolpe's face in the gold cup.
our problem, as we all know is the federation, and no body eh willin to kill one ah dem asrehole in the TTFF like they would in brazil or argentina in order tuh free up we football and show them we serious bout it!
so the end results, arrested development! let allyuh so called "heroes" shaka, kelvin, sancho, even fackin latas or one ah dem oppose the TTFF and force them to step aside and let more capable minds rule, but oh yeh i forgot, this is trinidad we talkin bout and it only have sh!t snakes livin down there, ah bunch ah toothless tigers runnin round makin noise wid no serious action behind it.
for the yrs i on this site listening to all the gripes, i never heard anyone remotely showed any interest in runnin the federation, not one time, which is extremely attainable.
ppl just want tuh run to games and support from the comfort of their couches or behind their PC, but no one showed any serious interest in making a change. now is the best time since jack is powerless to stop anything. he's no longer in FIFA and he can't get involved in T&T football matters, isn't this what we've been waiting for ppl?
BTW palos, in case yuh don't know, we have the talent tuh make this WC, and we got an early start, which is better than the last two times. and we got ah gift in that we have an easy group in bados, guyana and bermuda.
all we have tuh do is win all our home games and beat el salvador away, and possibly look ah draw in costa rica and we are home free to the hex! and yes we have the talent, and we have ah capable coach, not like other times when we went with suspect coaches, now we have an early start wid ah best coach and ah few world class players, the federation just needs to stop pullin stones right about now and give us a chance!
palos here's ah list of our "not good enough" players. julius james, J.LLoyd, cyrus, jovin jones , r. primus, Y marshall.
k hyland, c edwards, c samuel, k daniel, h. hector, h. tinto, c.birchall
K.jones. D. roberts. C.glenn, s. john, L. peltier
miscellaneous players. theobald, jagdoesingh, J. scotland,k cupid,T. noel, s. winchester, d.jorslin, k. baptiste.
camps fee ded!
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"for the yrs i on this site listening to all the gripes, i never heard anyone remotely showed any interest in runnin the federation, not one time, which is extremely attainable."
I'm voting for JC to take over TTFF. Once you're in power you can bring on board who you like, even "so called "heroes" shaka, kelvin, sancho, even fackin latas or one ah dem oppose the TTFF"
Just because they don't have your intelligence and capabilities, JC, they could still assist. I think theres plenty of people willing to step forward, but just don't know how to beat TTFF. Now that you seem to know the way, take your chance hoss, and they will follow.
But how exactly would you take over? What is your plan?
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"for the yrs i on this site listening to all the gripes, i never heard anyone remotely showed any interest in runnin the federation, not one time, which is extremely attainable."
I'm voting for JC to take over TTFF. Once you're in power you can bring on board who you like, even "so called "heroes" shaka, kelvin, sancho, even fackin latas or one ah dem oppose the TTFF"
Just because they don't have your intelligence and capabilities, JC, they could still assist. I think theres plenty of people willing to step forward, but just don't know how to beat TTFF. Now that you seem to know the way, take your chance hoss, and they will follow.
But how exactly would you take over? What is your plan?
what kind of talk is dat?? i never said i know it all, but if i lived in T&T i would do a little more than talkin! knowing me i woulda end up in prison or ded BC i iz what yuh call ah hardcore revolutionary and i mighta try tuh bump off camps, serious ting!!!
i just think that trinis too MDCNT soft, if was ah hard core footballin nation like england or mexico this wacko federation would've been more than long gone!
don't underestimate jennings and the english FA for the demise of AJW. i feel they had ah hand in putting him out to pasture when it seemed all but possible.
my point iz, these ppl do more than talk, they actually put ah plan in place and implement it, while trinis just love tuh hear themselve.
just hold on to yuh hat, you'll see the kinda lacadaisical no action having mutha fackers trinis could be, i predict soon you'll be running out of trini back to good ole enland for some normalcy where ppl actually have some kind of serious conviction.
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"for the yrs i on this site listening to all the gripes, i never heard anyone remotely showed any interest in runnin the federation, not one time, which is extremely attainable."
I'm voting for JC to take over TTFF. Once you're in power you can bring on board who you like, even "so called "heroes" shaka, kelvin, sancho, even fackin latas or one ah dem oppose the TTFF"
Just because they don't have your intelligence and capabilities, JC, they could still assist. I think theres plenty of people willing to step forward, but just don't know how to beat TTFF. Now that you seem to know the way, take your chance hoss, and they will follow.
But how exactly would you take over? What is your plan?
Start a rival federation.
Register with FIFA
Talk to the regional peeps about how you will provide ofr them various opportunity to adavence their football, Insurance for the players so if the player gets hurt you can take care of them in 1st class facilities.
Whenever foreign teams come to play T&T the various region can send coaches to a symposium with these teams.
Open voting and accountability. Two terms of 3-4 years maximum and after the 2nd consecutive serving in office you have to wait 6-8 years before getting elected again.
Etc.
Seeing that JW cannot run to FIFA, TTFF will have to come real good to represent T&T seeing they are broke and cannot get a friendly or finance any events and/or activities to maintain a proper program.
If FIFA run to the aid of the TTFF then we will really know JW eh done.
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Just cool, I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not. If you know how to overcome TTFF, then tell us, because I sure can't think of a way. All we can do here is talk, because we just don't know what else to do.
The govt wouldn't be concerned if we marched up and down outside the Red House as they're busy trying to prevent a massive strike.
Similarly, Elans ideas mean well, but won't work. Who would join the alternative federation? you need the regional and zonal groups and they are all TTFF folk. Register what with FIFA, exactly? They will only recognise one body from a country and they recognise TTFF. How would you advance the regions and pay for insurance? Have you any idea how much specialised insurance costs? Where would your money come from?
I throw ideas this way purely at talking points, because I'm frustrated. I have no clue how to rectify things. But there's no sense you lambasting locals if you cannot provide a sensible option for them to follow.
I admire your revoloutionary stance, but you're right, all you would achieve is a lock up. I don't think any of us would be prepared to spend 10 years in prison to overthrow Camps.
I think the only soloution is similar to your points about Jennings. T&T media need to hound these people and force them into a public debate. Dig deep and reveal information about their salaries, their first class trips, their personal property etc. Make them persona non grata in their towns and the places they frequent. Make it so people approach them in the street, outside their church. Make it so their wives are too embarrassed to go out.
Then we may get somewhere, but we cannot do this, this is the job of the media.
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Just cool, I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not. If you know how to overcome TTFF, then tell us, because I sure can't think of a way. All we can do here is talk, because we just don't know what else to do.
The govt wouldn't be concerned if we marched up and down outside the Red House as they're busy trying to prevent a massive strike.
Similarly, Elans ideas mean well, but won't work. Who would join the alternative federation? you need the regional and zonal groups and they are all TTFF folk. It's them I'm talking about. JW have nothing to offer them anymore. If they don't want to budge talk to others than those in charge to push for something better. Register what with FIFA, exactly? They will only recognise one body from a country and they recognise TTFF. Don't your country have to register with FIFA? How does FIFA know which Federation within a country represents the country? Plus if they really want to get rid of JW then they make accept the new group. Is FIFA after all. How would you advance the regions and pay for insurance? When I say regions, I mean within T&T not CFU. Offering better access to coaching, resources, facilities etc. Like the coaching sympsoium during international friendlies, a 30 minute -1 hr tv spot highlighting the various leagues each week and highlights from games and training etc. Have you any idea how much specialised insurance costs? Where would your money come from? You approach businesses with you marketing plan. You propose to place members from the top business supporters on the board of the new Federation to assist in Marketing, PR and transparency. Just develop a proper plan of action and sustainability.
I throw ideas this way purely at talking points, because I'm frustrated. I have no clue how to rectify things. But there's no sense you lambasting locals if you cannot provide a sensible option for them to follow.
I admire your revoloutionary stance, but you're right, all you would achieve is a lock up. I don't think any of us would be prepared to spend 10 years in prison to overthrow Camps.
I think the only soloution is similar to your points about Jennings. T&T media need to hound these people and force them into a public debate. Dig deep and reveal information about their salaries, their first class trips, their personal property etc. Make them persona non grata in their towns and the places they frequent. Make it so people approach them in the street, outside their church. Make it so their wives are too embarrassed to go out.
Then we may get somewhere, but we cannot do this, this is the job of the media.
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Given today's draw, there won't be any Hex for T&T this world cup
We should emerge as winners in our group against Guyana, Barbados and Bermuda (although as much as our football sucks right now, this is not a sure thing by any means).
But if we win that group, we'll then have to play Mexico and Costa Rica in the 3rd round and there's very little chance of us beating either team. Given that only the top 2 teams move forward to the Hex...bye bye T&T.
We simply not good enough.
the truth !
Dose of reality!!!
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I believe Otto Pfister is a talented coach. However, he should not be coach of T&T. Heres why:
For some reason, TTFF are totally incapable of running football. Anil should never have agreed to fund Pfister without a complete, budgeted business plan for 2014.
Instead, they should have appointed a local coach on, say, TT$30,000 per month and agreed to use the additional TT$270,000 p.m. to fund overseas trips.
Yes, I know we may not qualify for 2014 with a local coach, but everyone...us, TTFF, govt, must accept that we need to rebuild and focus on 2018. We cannot compete with the likes of USA, Mexico, Canada with a fete match mentality.
Before we spend TT$300,000 pm on a coach, we must get our infrastructure right and get a team used to playing together against international competition.
Its like we can take a loan to buy a Ferrari, but can't afford to insure it or put gas in it. Yeah, we got a Ferrari, but its no use to us in the garage. Instead, I'd rather buy a 20 year old Mustang, gradually restore it and then sell it to buy my Ferrari once I have sufficient income to run the damn thing.
TTFF are completely clueless, and govt should not indulge their fantasies.
:beermug: :beermug:
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The hardest part to swallow of all dis is that if we make the hex we could make Brazil by only having to make the 4th spot. Well, now it doesnt look like we will even make the hex.
Thanks TTFF and Jack. >:(
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Allyu raising allyu blood pressure for nothing,JW eh dead,they only ban him from Football for life. :rotfl: :rotfl: nothing eh change we still playing Football,the Pro league going and start just now,SSFL fixtures out so they going and start too,Eve just qualify the U20's for the next round of qualification(everybody excited),WC qualifications going and start what's the problem,we was ever really prepared for anything where Football is concerned,allyu watching too much TV. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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That will be very hard but with this new coach, German football philosophy, I remain optimistic.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/round3.html (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/round3.html)
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That will be very hard but with this new coach, German football philosophy, I remain optimistic.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/round3.html (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/round3.html)
Mexico is de beast to tame...
So is Mehico and CR definitely, with Trinidad...and who else??? Any guessses's? :beermug:
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let c how it goes in dis rounds and determine the next step
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That will be very hard but with this new coach, German football philosophy, I remain optimistic.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/round3.html (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/round3.html)
Mexico is de beast to tame...
So is Mehico and CR definitely, with Trinidad...and who else??? Any guessses's? :beermug:
I say El salvador....I can't see Suriname, Cayman Islands or Dominican Republic giving them much horrors for that top spot in the group.
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When do we play guyana?? who's next when and where? thanx.
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When do we play guyana?? who's next when and where? thanx.
Our next qualifier is on October 7th against Bermuda (away). We play Guyana on November 11th (away) and 15th (home).
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
Jackula not running tings anymore :devil:
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When do we play guyana?? who's next when and where? thanx.
Our next qualifier is on October 7th against Bermuda (away). We play Guyana on November 11th (away) and 15th (home).
Thanx bro.
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
No need to fuss, this is how champions league runs their group stage format. The 3rd and 4th fixture are usually back to back the return of the 1st fixture is 5th and 2nd is 6th.
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
No need to fuss, this is how champions league runs their group stage format. The 3rd and 4th fixture are usually back to back the return of the 1st fixture is 5th and 2nd is 6th.
Come on G, you outline the CL format, look at our schedule and bawl is the same?
In our group, the return of the 1st tie is 3rd, the return of the 2nd tie is 4th, and the return of the 5th tie is 6th.
Our group format is retarded. We should play each team once, then start the return ties.
What is the purpose, to have the 2 strongest teams playing each other on the last 2 gamedays?
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
No need to fuss, this is how champions league runs their group stage format. The 3rd and 4th fixture are usually back to back the return of the 1st fixture is 5th and 2nd is 6th.
Come on G, you outline the CL format, look at our schedule and bawl is the same?
In our group, the return of the 1st tie is 3rd, the return of the 2nd tie is 4th, and the return of the 5th tie is 6th.
Our group format is retarded. We should play each team once, then start the return ties.
What is the purpose, to have the 2 strongest teams playing each other on the last 2 gamedays?
The disadvantage of this format is that if the two strongest teams are on equal or maximum points for winning all their previous games then goal difference will become crucial if both teams are equally matched and each win their home games against each other by a similar margin!
Let’s hope it doesn't come to that if we don't manage to score more goals than Guyana does against our other opponents in the group before we meet Guyana in the final two games home & away!
Check link for curent Group B table standings: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/index.html
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
No need to fuss, this is how champions league runs their group stage format. The 3rd and 4th fixture are usually back to back the return of the 1st fixture is 5th and 2nd is 6th.
Come on G, you outline the CL format, look at our schedule and bawl is the same?
In our group, the return of the 1st tie is 3rd, the return of the 2nd tie is 4th, and the return of the 5th tie is 6th.
Our group format is retarded. We should play each team once, then start the return ties.
What is the purpose, to have the 2 strongest teams playing each other on the last 2 gamedays?
The disadvantage of this format is that if the two strongest teams are on equal or maximum points for winning all their previous games then goal difference will become crucial if both teams are equally matched and each win their home games against each other by a similar margin!
Let’s hope it doesn't come to that if we don't manage to score more goals than Guyana does against our other opponents in the group before we meet Guyana in the final two games home & away!
Check link for curent Group B table standings: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/index.html
Formula retarded...
Only in Concacaf. Maybe they wanted to make it feel like a home and away must win playoff but i could see a team leading on goal difference before the end playing for 2 draws nice and easy, especially if they have the second game home...
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This is the schedule I saw from FIFA.com, home team first
07 Oct 2011 BER - TRI
11 Oct 2011 TRI - BRB
11 Nov 2011 GUY - TRI
15 Nov 2011 TRI - GUY
this is a sh!t schedule,we playing in a round robin and we play 2 of the 3 teams twice before we meet the other team.So we would of played 4 out of a total of 6 games before we face the other team for the first time
No need to fuss, this is how champions league runs their group stage format. The 3rd and 4th fixture are usually back to back the return of the 1st fixture is 5th and 2nd is 6th.
Come on G, you outline the CL format, look at our schedule and bawl is the same?
In our group, the return of the 1st tie is 3rd, the return of the 2nd tie is 4th, and the return of the 5th tie is 6th.
Our group format is retarded. We should play each team once, then start the return ties.
What is the purpose, to have the 2 strongest teams playing each other on the last 2 gamedays?
The disadvantage of this format is that if the two strongest teams are on equal or maximum points for winning all their previous games then goal difference will become crucial if both teams are equally matched and each win their home games against each other by a similar margin!
Let’s hope it doesn't come to that if we don't manage to score more goals than Guyana does against our other opponents in the group before we meet Guyana in the final two games home & away!
Check link for curent Group B table standings: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/standings/index.html
Formula retarded...
Only in Concacaf. Maybe they wanted to make it feel like a home and away must win playoff but i could see a team leading on goal difference before the end playing for 2 draws nice and easy, especially if they have the second game home...
EXACTLY!!
And men here want to condemn me for wanting maximum possible amount of goals against Barbados when we throw away at least 3 easy chances!!
Some folks don't understand about planning ahead!!
We have to ensure we score more goals against our other opponents than Guyana does as a safeguard for when me meet them up for the last two games!
But maybe we love to always have our backs against the wall! ::)