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Maturana hits own wicket.
« on: November 11, 2008, 06:14:17 AM »
Maturana hits own wicket.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).


Colombian denies selecting squad.

Trinidad and Tobago head coach Francisco Maturana is consistent only in his inconsistencies when it comes to squad selection. And, after confusing the nation with such gems as the exclusion of Dennis Lawrence in Chicago and the demotion of Stern John in Bermuda, there was probably only one person left for him to surprise.

So, on Sunday night, Maturana expressed surprise that Maturana selected a squad without a left back to face Cuba in next week's World Cup qualifier and promptly distanced himself from himself.

"If there is a (team) list out there that is somebody else's problem," said Maturana, through his translator Professor Ancil Glod, "I didn't give anybody any list."

Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) press officer Shaun Fuentes insisted that the Colombian selected his 18-man squad on Saturday night and, during Sunday's final Digicel Caribbean Cup qualifier, the relevant names were relayed to the media.

Fuentes offered that Maturana probably intended to make late adjustments as he is prone to do. But such inconvenient-or convenient-memory loss would do nothing to quell speculation as to the machinations of team selection these days.

For last month's decisive World Cup qualifier against the United States, the Colombian summoned utility player Silvio Spann from non-league Wales-based club, Wrexham, on a recommendation from one of his national players. The "Soca Warriors" won 2-1 against a weakened North American outfit and, considering Spann was not recalled to face Cuba, perhaps his performance left the coach less than thrilled.

Nothing if not adventurous, Maturana was not deterred from another stab in the dark with his shock selections of 34-year-old Hull goalkeeper Anthony Warner and 27-year-old Rhyl FC winger Josh Johnson.

Warner, at present, is third choice at Hull and yet to play this season. Two years ago, he was summoned to a training camp by then coach Leo Beenhakker and quickly released after the technical staff decided he was not better than the three local goalkeepers, which included incumbent custodian Clayton Ince.

Warner supposedly twice rejected call-ups during the infamous "blacklist" period but might have some time on his hands these days and apparently fancies a World Cup qualifying cap.

Johnson, a quick but uncomplicated winger, won the last of his four caps six years ago in a 2-1 loss to St Kitts under caretaker coach Clayton Morris and the level of his employment at present does not quite scream "progress" on his part.

"It is not a sin to have a look at a player," said Maturana, when asked about the choices.

In Trinidad and Tobago, the mantra for curious children is "look but don't touch".

Surely Maturana did not need to involve paying patrons and the Trinidad and Tobago uniform in his experiment. When England coach Fabio Capello wants to know how Darren Bent is doing, he does not offer the striker a World Cup run out against Ukraine. He watches Tottenham play instead and, if suitably impressed, invites him to a friendly game for further evaluation.

Maturana's decision to do otherwise arguably cheapens the value of the national shirt, particularly for players like Ataullah Guerra, Lyndon Diaz, Marvin Oliver, Conrad Smith, Cleon John, Matthew Bartholomew and Trent Noel who are desperate for a chance in the "red, white and black" strip.

Maturana has already dabbled with school boys and pensioners on his team sheet. It seems that blind dates offer the latest rush.

It is, of course, not an intended slur on the capabilities of Warner, Johnson or anyone else wearing national colours on November 19. Rather, football fans may like to know that, when they fork out up to $500 to see their team, the deliberation behind its selection is more complex than "why not?"

There were some other sentiments expressed by Maturana that raised eyebrows.

He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

If it was a joke, it was a poor and ill-timed one particularly considering the present global euphoria over the election of the United States' first black president, Barack Obama.

Maturana, a qualified dentist, is an educated man and should be more careful in the way he makes his points.

Maturana also suggested that the Warriors' off-colour performance might have something to do with the players being homesick at the Crowne Plaza.

It is a small wonder then that Beenhakker's boys did not hop on the nearest plane for Piarco after two months in Europe in the build-up to the 2006 World Cup.

For Maturana's sake, it is best that we stick to his team sheets which have always been a thing of wonder. On Sunday, after the two-time World Cup coach insisted that he would not stray from a four-man defence, the TTFF released a team supposedly picked by the Colombian that comprised four central defenders and one right back.

"I did not pick any team," said Maturana, through his translator.

For once, Maturana was as surprised as everyone else by the composition of the national squad. It was probably always just a matter of time.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 06:19:59 AM »
tell us somthing we dont know

i feel manning picking this side
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 06:21:56 AM »
I still want to know who he calling Pensioner >:(
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 06:58:59 AM »
I didn't notice Maturana didn't pick any left backs... hhhmmmm....

Maybe he thinking about another experiment in another world cup qualifier. I starting to believe we in real trouble with this left back thing. Avery not playing well becuase he is being treated unfairly or maybe he aging to fast and his replacement (Aklie Edwards) is not a left back, he should play left out. Can anyone base home give Maturana Andrei Pacheco and Nigel Daniel number so he can go scout them.

Very good points Lasana. Why give players important caps to see what they can do. If you cant go see them atleast play a friendly or two against poor opposition to see what they have to offer. The DCC series was perfect for this.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 07:34:51 AM »
Maturana hits own wicket.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).


Colombian denies selecting squad.

Trinidad and Tobago head coach Francisco Maturana is consistent only in his inconsistencies when it comes to squad selection. And, after confusing the nation with such gems as the exclusion of Dennis Lawrence in Chicago and the demotion of Stern John in Bermuda, there was probably only one person left for him to surprise.

So, on Sunday night, Maturana expressed surprise that Maturana selected a squad without a left back to face Cuba in next week's World Cup qualifier and promptly distanced himself from himself.

"If there is a (team) list out there that is somebody else's problem," said Maturana, through his translator Professor Ancil Glod, "I didn't give anybody any list."

Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) press officer Shaun Fuentes insisted that the Colombian selected his 18-man squad on Saturday night and, during Sunday's final Digicel Caribbean Cup qualifier, the relevant names were relayed to the media.

Fuentes offered that Maturana probably intended to make late adjustments as he is prone to do. But such inconvenient-or convenient-memory loss would do nothing to quell speculation as to the machinations of team selection these days.

For last month's decisive World Cup qualifier against the United States, the Colombian summoned utility player Silvio Spann from non-league Wales-based club, Wrexham, on a recommendation from one of his national players. The "Soca Warriors" won 2-1 against a weakened North American outfit and, considering Spann was not recalled to face Cuba, perhaps his performance left the coach less than thrilled.

Nothing if not adventurous, Maturana was not deterred from another stab in the dark with his shock selections of 34-year-old Hull goalkeeper Anthony Warner and 27-year-old Rhyl FC winger Josh Johnson.

Warner, at present, is third choice at Hull and yet to play this season. Two years ago, he was summoned to a training camp by then coach Leo Beenhakker and quickly released after the technical staff decided he was not better than the three local goalkeepers, which included incumbent custodian Clayton Ince.

Warner supposedly twice rejected call-ups during the infamous "blacklist" period but might have some time on his hands these days and apparently fancies a World Cup qualifying cap.

Johnson, a quick but uncomplicated winger, won the last of his four caps six years ago in a 2-1 loss to St Kitts under caretaker coach Clayton Morris and the level of his employment at present does not quite scream "progress" on his part.

"It is not a sin to have a look at a player," said Maturana, when asked about the choices.

In Trinidad and Tobago, the mantra for curious children is "look but don't touch".

Surely Maturana did not need to involve paying patrons and the Trinidad and Tobago uniform in his experiment. When England coach Fabio Capello wants to know how Darren Bent is doing, he does not offer the striker a World Cup run out against Ukraine. He watches Tottenham play instead and, if suitably impressed, invites him to a friendly game for further evaluation.

Maturana's decision to do otherwise arguably cheapens the value of the national shirt, particularly for players like Ataullah Guerra, Lyndon Diaz, Marvin Oliver, Conrad Smith, Cleon John, Matthew Bartholomew and Trent Noel who are desperate for a chance in the "red, white and black" strip.

Maturana has already dabbled with school boys and pensioners on his team sheet. It seems that blind dates offer the latest rush.

It is, of course, not an intended slur on the capabilities of Warner, Johnson or anyone else wearing national colours on November 19. Rather, football fans may like to know that, when they fork out up to $500 to see their team, the deliberation behind its selection is more complex than "why not?"

There were some other sentiments expressed by Maturana that raised eyebrows.

He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

If it was a joke, it was a poor and ill-timed one particularly considering the present global euphoria over the election of the United States' first black president, Barack Obama.

Maturana, a qualified dentist, is an educated man and should be more careful in the way he makes his points.

Maturana also suggested that the Warriors' off-colour performance might have something to do with the players being homesick at the Crowne Plaza.

It is a small wonder then that Beenhakker's boys did not hop on the nearest plane for Piarco after two months in Europe in the build-up to the 2006 World Cup.

For Maturana's sake, it is best that we stick to his team sheets which have always been a thing of wonder. On Sunday, after the two-time World Cup coach insisted that he would not stray from a four-man defence, the TTFF released a team supposedly picked by the Colombian that comprised four central defenders and one right back.

"I did not pick any team," said Maturana, through his translator.

For once, Maturana was as surprised as everyone else by the composition of the national squad. It was probably always just a matter of time.

I could not have written it any better.  Lisana really have a way with words and actully does his research before putting pen to paper.  Is the same frigging thing I saying since Mats take over....especially the part about the paying patrons.  Yuh cyah expect people to pay to see experiments when yuh charging premium rates.  I feel Jack done decide to get we accustomed to paying $200 and up, to see games in the stadium, so that $100 in MLS would sound like a real deal...regardless of the team make or the opposition.

Wim talk about the quality of the local players and was severly chastised on this board.  I wonder what man have to say now about Mats....He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 07:42:10 AM »
If he hasn't chosen that team then who choose it and are we still waiting for the team selection from him.

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 08:01:25 AM »
like i stated prevously, its corneal picking the side with jw blessings.

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 08:09:49 AM »
like i stated prevously, its corneal picking the side with jw blessings.

nope cause corneal was hammering maturana on warner and josh johnson on the radio ... also on that keeper warner if he rejected us twice during the blacklist as lasana stated he should not be called up
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 08:12:03 AM »
As much as Cyd and Avery daz have meh trembling when they go in fuh de big tackle ah would still like to know who go pick ah TT team and leave dem out.

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 08:15:11 AM »
on that keeper warner if he rejected us twice during the blacklist as lasana stated he should not be called up
Ahm... Carlos and Scotty and Dennis, etc. reject us during the blacklist too. It's called solidarity (kinda).

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 08:27:10 AM »


but Not Out is the call eh..

Under the information presented, is it really Pacho who has played on to the stumps?[

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 08:30:16 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 08:33:38 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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I waiting to hear what man hadda say about that too.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 08:41:25 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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I waiting to hear what man hadda say about that too.
no problem....Mats is one ah we ;)
an seriously, how de hell we expect to concentrate when we only liming under coconut tree and drinking rum
allya orrite yes :devil:
hear nuh, where meh bottle gorn now ;D
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 08:59:30 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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I waiting to hear what man hadda say about that too.
Is only a insult when a white man they doh like say it.

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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 09:04:00 AM »
Hear nah.. is real confusion... everybody feel is everybody else picking de side...

I feel is Fuentes picking de side and sending all de text message and dem... dat bitch smart. He taking advantage...
I feel he have side wagers as to who getting call up with William Hill and dem.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 09:10:37 AM »
on that keeper warner if he rejected us twice during the blacklist as lasana stated he should not be called up
Ahm... Carlos and Scotty and Dennis, etc. reject us during the blacklist too. It's called solidarity (kinda).

he was not  blacklisted  he was not part of the WC squad he had no case against the ttff ..no solidarity there on his part ....
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 09:13:14 AM »
on that keeper warner if he rejected us twice during the blacklist as lasana stated he should not be called up
Ahm... Carlos and Scotty and Dennis, etc. reject us during the blacklist too. It's called solidarity (kinda).

he was not  blacklisted  he was not part of the WC squad he had no case against the ttff ..no solidarity there on his part ....
Carlos, Scotty, Dennis, etc were not blacklisted either. They were not part of any case either. In fact, there was talk of making Carlos captain during the blacklist for the Gold Cup. And they all refused to come back... in solidarity with the blacklisted players. Dennis went so far as to fake-retire.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 09:17:46 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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I waiting to hear what man hadda say about that too.
Is only a insult when a white man they doh like say it.

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If it was a joke, it was a poor and ill-timed one particularly considering the present global euphoria over the election of the United States' first black president, Barack Obama.

No, it's an insult and completely inappropriate when anyone says it. And while I agree that this is a good article, Lasana must know that the comment being wrong has nothing to do with Obama and the election. That comment is wrong in any environment, at any time in this day and age. If I was to rank the Fran Mat topics in terms of stupidity and ignorance in descending order, it would go like this:

1) The race comment
2) The "I didn't pick the team" comment
3) The homesickness comment

Not. Good. Enough.

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2008, 09:18:31 AM »
Men forget he say that already .

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2008, 09:19:46 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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I waiting to hear what man hadda say about that too.
Is only a insult when a white man they doh like say it.

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If it was a joke, it was a poor and ill-timed one particularly considering the present global euphoria over the election of the United States' first black president, Barack Obama.

No, it's an insult and completely inappropriate when anyone says it. And while agree that this is a good article, Lasana must know that the comment being wrong has nothing to do with Obama and the election. That comment is wrong in any environment, at any time in this day and age. If I was to rank the topics in terms of stupidity and ignorance in descending order, it would go like this:

1) The race comment
2) The "I didn't pick the team" comment
3) The homesickness comment

Not. Good. Enough.
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2008, 09:20:33 AM »
He cyah concentrate long enough 2 even pich a proper side. Dwarika is d pensioner
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2008, 09:21:30 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

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I was waiting fuh somebody to bring that up.  Men was blasting Wim now ah want to hear what they have to say about Pacho comment.  If yuh believe Wim statement was true then yuh could argue he dis de country.  If Maturana statement is true then he dis he entire race.

Maturana statement is pure ingnorance and stupidity.

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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2008, 09:25:24 AM »
He is d dumbtist remember. All d Wim haters luv dumbtist so dey go say stitch
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2008, 09:43:02 AM »
Fellas, Calm down nah.  If Maturan quit he would get paid the balance of his contract.  If he is then fired, he gets all of his money.  He might be smarter than you all think.  The sad part is that he is playing his games with our National Team.

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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2008, 09:45:44 AM »
He explained the team's concentration lapses with a flippant "our race doesn't like to concentrate for long".

Well he say our...so that means he in the jump up too.

I surprised nobody pick up on this line...yet drinking rum under a coconut tree got way more mileage.

So does this explain why Birchall runs harder than any other member of our team and has the best work ethic. Also he doesnt seem to shut off....maybe we need more players of other races on the team.  ::)

Steupsssss...We coach yes...the 4king corbeaux.

I waiting to hear what man hadda say about that too.
Is only a insult when a white man they doh like say it.

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If it was a joke, it was a poor and ill-timed one particularly considering the present global euphoria over the election of the United States' first black president, Barack Obama.

No, it's an insult and completely inappropriate when anyone says it. And while agree that this is a good article, Lasana must know that the comment being wrong has nothing to do with Obama and the election. That comment is wrong in any environment, at any time in this day and age. If I was to rank the topics in terms of stupidity and ignorance in descending order, it would go like this:

1) The race comment
2) The "I didn't pick the team" comment
3) The homesickness comment

Not. Good. Enough.
Leave we coach alone . He getting results !

Ah hear somebody calling Palos name ;D

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Re: Maturana hits own wicket.
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2008, 09:47:28 AM »
So because we have 2 buy out he contract we must keep him. JW have ltd funds plus it go b 1 more ting 4 he 2 sing he own praises dat he had 2 pay off d coach. Me eh c d problem
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