Can't be bothered quoting that whole sequence there, but here are the highlights:
I said: So, this was not money allocated for any programme. It was additional money that was "discovered".
You said: The TTFA never said this money was allocated for any programme... that is FIFA money, don't get the two confused. And note the red highlight above, they never said they actually had the money in hand, they said a funding "source" was identified and that money was "available".
There is no confusion on my part. I made it clear that this was "fresh money" so that people could see for themselves that this funding could not have impacted in any way on any other planned spending by TTFA.
If, as you say, they never actually had the money, then how the hell could they make a payment schedule? Surely, they would add a caveat that said "if the funds come through" In which case, the players may not have settled. I'm surprised that you would advocate wishful thinking as a basis for a legal agreement.
You said: It's not at all a lie, not even slightly misleading... even if different from what Tim-Kee said. Tim-Kee spoke about money they were expecting, money which clearly they haven't yet gotten. All of that money could have been used for a number of things, including development of football. Instead it was earmarked for the settlement. Nothing at all wrong with the statement.
Of course, you are completely incorrect. Look at the language - Fuentes pointed out, “These are funds that has been taken from funding for the Association, that had to go towards development of all national youth teams, the development of youth football. There is a situation where football is suffering because the TTFA and (president Raymond) Tim Kee made a firm decision to come to a settlement with the players and to ensure that this debt is taken care of. They thought it was fit that we tried to ensure that this matter came to an end.”
Pure BS. This was money that was discovered, apparently. Like if you won the lottery and then lost the ticket. You can't say "I lost my lottery ticket so I can't feed my kids" You should have had all programmes that you could afford to run, planned. Not plan programmes you can't afford. This was a windfall and was never targeted for any other use. It was never taken from funding, it was never going towards development, no one has suffered additionally. So it is utterly, completely, thoroughly misleading.
Of course, if there was no settlement, then the windfall certainly may have been used. But there was, so it wasn't.
You said: That is nonsense. Why would anyone blame the players for the lack of funding for development?
Exactly, Sancho's point. Why would anyone blame them. Yet, unless English is your third or fourth language you cannot fail to understand that this is attempting to blame the players: Fuentes pointed out, “These are funds that has been taken from funding for the Association, that had to go towards development of all national youth teams, the development of youth football. There is a situation where football is suffering because the TTFA and (president Raymond) Tim Kee made a firm decision to come to a settlement with the players
It's not fact, so why say it? How can this not lead people to believe that the players received money which was taken from other programmes?
You said:The players got $1.7 million USD right after the settlement was announced, where did that money come from? Could it be that that was some of the CONCACAF TV money?
One would hope so, because that's where Tim-Kee said it was coming from. If it wasn't from there, but from "funds that has been taken[/i] from funding for the Association, that had to go towards development of all national youth teams, the development of youth football." then TTFA are guilty of mismanaging funds a)because they made a settlement based on funds they didn't have and b) because having done so, they then place the blame for lack of funding with the players. Sounds very similar to TTFF style financial management.
You said: The information I have is that the money was paid in November. So either I have it wrong, or your source has it wrong.
You have indeed got it wrong. No money has been paid aside from the initial payment. This has been well documented in the press since September.
You said: What "mismanagement of funds"
The first rule of financial planning/budgeting is not to commit funds you do not have. You spend money that you can guarantee. If this money wasn't guaranteed to TTFA by certain dates, that should have been made clear. By agreeing to make the payments, you are making a commitment. Of course, things can go wrong. In which case, admit there is a problem (which they did), but don't start trying to make the other party appear unreasonable because they want what was promised. You can't get vexed with T&TEC if you've used their electricity, then you don't receive some money promised to you by your auntie, and T&TEC cut you off. Only use the electricity you can pay for.
You said: You on shit yes. You reading what you want to read. It was "taken" from the women's team and the Senior MNT in the sense that it could have been earmarked for them instead but it wasn't.
Fuentes said: “These are funds that has been taken from funding for the Association, that had to go towards development of all national youth teams, the development of youth football."
Ain't no earmarking going on according to Fuentes. Read his words: “These are funds that has been taken" Can't be any clearer, therefore, actually, YOU ON SHIT.
You said: Don't blame me because I can read for understanding. You are the one who keeps confusing and in some cases misconstruing what's been stated.
This is the problem when you have two sides who have been adversaries for so long that people have dug in their heels and their anger and distrust prevents them from being able to see the merits to the other side's position.
Oh, damn...you wrote that, too!
I am not confused. I may be wrong, but we'll never know, because we're talking about opinion. In my opinion, the ordinary citizen will look at Fuentes comments and come away with the belief that money was "taken" from women, youths, SNT and coaches to pay the players. If that wasn't Fuentes intention, I apologise for the misunderstanding. But my question is: Why mention that money was "taken" from women, youths, SNT and coaches in the first place? It has nothing to do with the issue, which is that TTFA have failed to adhere to their agreement. Women, youths and SNT have nothing to do with the settlement, especially since Tim-Kee stated there was a separate source of funding for the settlement.
Finally, you said: Sancho needs to calm his ass down
To me, Sancho appears very calm. The letter was well written and included no coarse language, aimless threats or personal attacks. It just addressed quotes made by Fuentes and Tim-Kee. Now, if you want to advise people to calm down, I'd save it for Kelvin Jack who gets in town this week. Because I'm pretty sure he won't be as polite as Mr Sancho was.