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Warner: You blew it Shabazz.
By: Ian Prescott (Express).
"You had a chance to create history and go up to another level with our women," Jack Warner said to Jamaal Shabazz, who coached the Trinidad and Tobago senior women football team at the CONCACAF Olympic qualifiers which concludes today in Cuidad Juarez, Mexico. "You had the chance up to the 90th minute and you blew it," he said.
Warner was referring to Trinidad & Tobago's preliminary round match against Costa Rica, which ended 2-2. The "Soca Princesses had twice led, and were in front leading 2-1 from the 35th minute, until a defensive lapse saw Costa Rica draw level in the final minute of the match. Had they held on, the T&T women would have advanced to the semi-final where they would have met Olympic champions, the United States. Instead, Costa Rica advanced on goal-difference.
Warner was in Mexico for the USA vs Costa Rica semi-final final, in which the Americans struggled to break down Costa Rica before advancing 3-0 on second half goals. Warner said that the Costa Rica effort and a similar 1-0 loss the Costa Ricans suffered to Canada, former World Cup semi-finalists, proved T&T had missed a big chance.
Warner said the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) went through tremendous cost to have the women team travel a week early to Mexico, so they could acclimatise. He said that although T&T are perennial Caribbean champions, it would have been a great achievement for them to also be among the top four in CONCACAF, alongside the United States, Canada and Mexico, teams which have all played at the Women World Cup.
"You go to Mexico and you catch a team like Costa Rica. You are leading 2-1, and you draw in the last minute?" Warner felt Shabazz had no excuse. Meanwhile, Warner cautioned national under-20 coach Zoran Vranes that he should not be looking to come up with similar excuses when T&T host the CONCACAF Final Round Under-20 World Cup qualifiers. Now that T&T have been confirmed as hosts and no longer have to go through qualifying, Warner told Vranes that his only job was to find the best young players in the country and prepare them to win one of the three places to the FIFA Under-20 World Cup.
However, there was not all condemnation for the T&T women's squad. Following his team's 6-0 victory over the Soca Princesses, Canadian coach Even Pellerud was quoted on the official Canadian football site as saying:" he Olympic Games campaign started with a quite comfortable win against a skillful and quick, but somewhat disorganised Trinidad and Tobago team."
Lincoln Phillips, the T&TFF'S technical director, said he was amazed at what the local women football programme has been able to achieve with a pool of just 200 players to choose from, while the Americans and Canadians had thousand of players. T&T's women have qualified for CONCACAF Final Round competition at under-17, under-20 and senior levels this year. Phillips said that the goal for Trinidad and Tobago now would be to become a force at the CONCACAF level.
Shabazz felt that the gap between T&T and the CONCACAF powers was narrowing. Shabazz also commended the TTFF for honouring the women's team although they fell short of expectations. Shabazz also said there was a big role for the local media in promoting the women's game.
"Being in Mexico for the last ten days, I saw a media that was frenzied,"Shabazz said. "And that woke me up about the role of the media in building women's football."
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Disorganised seems to be the order of the day whenever our teams play. BTW , how many caps will Shabazz fill? This man seems to b the go to man. :D
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"You go to Mexico and you catch a team like Costa Rica. You are leading 2-1, and you draw in the last minute?" Warner felt Shabazz had no excuse. Meanwhile, Warner cautioned national under-20 coach Zoran Vranes that he should not be looking to come up with similar excuses when T&T host the CONCACAF Final Round Under-20 World Cup qualifiers. Now that T&T have been confirmed as hosts and no longer have to go through qualifying, Warner told Vranes that his only job was to find the best young players in the country and prepare them to win one of the three places to the FIFA Under-20 World Cup.
Is not the same thing we did in Jamaica tie the game at last minute? would vranes be given the support and games necessary to prepare the under 20 team. Or it would be "d government aint giving we ah cent"
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all varnes has to do is select the best u20 yr olds in the country and make them qualify for the world cup? ??? ???
TOOOOOOOOOOO EASYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :-\
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Thank God Shabbazz blew it. Ley him go coach Guyana ... From day one mi neva like him bumboclaut!!!!!!!
War...
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I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team.. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Hold every one but himself
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So because dey went Mexico 2 aclimitise it will account 4 all d crab dat has been happenin in women futbol 4 yrs. Look Jack give meh a break
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So because dey went Mexico 2 aclimitise it will account 4 all d crab dat has been happenin in women futbol 4 yrs. Look Jack give meh a break
Yuh understand!!!....steeeuuupppsss....
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So Jackula. Who blew de preparation for de team?
What warm up matches did they play to prepare for the tournament? Against whom? Any other national team perhaps?
Yuh tink if dem women was even given a decent preparation for the tournament, dey woulda done better?
Who REALLY blew it Jackula?
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So Jackula. Who blew de preparation for de team?
What warm up matches did they play to prepare for the tournament? Against whom? Any other national team perhaps?
Yuh tink if dem women was even given a decent preparation for the tournament, dey woulda done better?
Who REALLY blew it Jackula?
true palos.
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
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Shabazz is a good coach
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Warner: You blew it Shabazz.
By: Ian Prescott (Express).
"You go to Mexico and you catch a team like Costa Rica. You are leading 2-1, and you draw in the last minute?" Warner felt Shabazz had no excuse.
This man is a "class" act oui. He blame the coach for the last minute equalizer yet no blame on the TTFF...a lot of money spent on the team to get used to the climate.....right...that is the winning formula....forget about warm up games....that is not necessary. Jack, puff puff pass...yuh messin up de rotation!
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
Interesting points here,some for and against Shabazz depending on how you look at him,some positive or negative depending on how to look at the game and T&T Women's Football,this can be said of any T&T Coach,unfortunately this happens to be Women's Football which we have never had any kind of success except in our backyard.
As far as our Women's Football is concerned we can blame Shabazz or TTFF, we have to give Shabazz some credit for sticking with the Women's program for so long,this is a job that no Coach wants in T&T and he choose to stand up with our women,i don't have to read and spell for any one here to know the treatment that Women Football gets in our country,we talk about the treatment our men's team gets no one ever talks about the women,can any one tell me if any of these girls get paid or flies first class for games?
His technical game and philosophy's may be questionable at times but which Coach don't have these problems,Shabazz i think is one of the good Coaches we have in our country,i totally agree with what our technical director Lincoln Phillips had to say,we are so limited as to how much we can do,our player pool is very small,our girls are not challenged regularly at a high enough level,we spend money on trips but what about training.
We should know by now this is the typical JW playing the blame game,he is never at fault for nothing,i still don't know how Shabazz stay in that position so long,Jack is normally quick to get rid of you for failures,i suffered under that system back in 1989 as a Coach.
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In the immediate 'what should have been an aftermath' of the game versus Costa Rica this was my gut reaction as well.
Regardless of the administrative conditions, I am of the view that a team leading 2-1 in this setting should not fall prey to a last minute equalizer. Administrative conditions are administrative conditions but the tactical posture of the team on the field is the coach's responsibility. There has to be separation.
This is/was my gut reaction in the context of a match featuring 3 first half goals and a couple of cards.
I am yet to see video of the game, but I have read a variety of accounts of the game. With the stakes as high as they were - even given certain known deficiencies about the environment in which Trinidad & Tobago footballers operate - I have a very difficult time being relaxed in assessing how things went down. This game should not have resulted in a draw in added time.
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Regardless of the administrative conditions, I am of the view that a team leading 2-1 in this setting should not fall prey to a last minute equalizer. Administrative conditions are administrative conditions but the tactical posture of the team on the field is the coach's responsibility. There has to be separation.
I am yet to see video of the game, but I have read a variety of accounts of the game. With the stakes as high as they were - even given certain known deficiencies about the environment in which Trinidad & Tobago footballers operate - I have a very difficult time being relaxed in assessing how things went down. This game should not have resulted in a draw in added time.
Sooooooo.....when T&T was down 2-1 late in de match in de Crawfie against Guatemala in WCQ needing a WIN to keep their hopes alive of qualifying for WC 2006, and we came back to win 3-2 with 2 goals in the last 5 minutes, that was a lapse in "tactical posture" by de Guatemalan's and had little to do with T&T's prowess and desire right?
Ah guess it also reinforces Touches' "Men of a fat and fertile soil are most commonly effeminate and cowards" theory too.
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Regardless of the administrative conditions, I am of the view that a team leading 2-1 in this setting should not fall prey to a last minute equalizer. Administrative conditions are administrative conditions but the tactical posture of the team on the field is the coach's responsibility. There has to be separation.
I am yet to see video of the game, but I have read a variety of accounts of the game. With the stakes as high as they were - even given certain known deficiencies about the environment in which Trinidad & Tobago footballers operate - I have a very difficult time being relaxed in assessing how things went down. This game should not have resulted in a draw in added time.
Sooooooo.....when T&T was down 2-1 late in de match in de Crawfie against Guatemala in WCQ needing a WIN to keep their hopes alive of qualifying for WC 2006, and we came back to win 3-2 with 2 goals in the last 5 minutes, that was a lapse in "tactical posture" by de Guatemalan's and had little to do with T&T's prowess and desire right?
Ah guess it also reinforces Touches' "Men of a fat and fertile soil are most commonly effeminate and cowards" theory too.
Ay palos, ah eh visit Touches concept thoroughly yet ... only selectively sampled thus far. At present I cyah go as far as saying wha we discussing is compatible with what Touches raised - though I believe @ heart they contemplate essentially different things.
Prowess and desire are to be considered in the equation when evaluating and responding to one's opponent. Where prowess and desire prevail does not negate the question of an opponent's tactics, they simply negate the effect of the opponent's tactics.
Similarly, the calling into question of [defeated] tactics does not minimize the winner's triumph.
Since yuh toss Bodin's paradox of plenty into the ring lehwe go Sun Tzu nah ...
Consider the art of war
Security against defeat implies defensive tactics; ability to defeat the enemy means taking the offensive.
Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength.
and
In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed
in order to secure victory.
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dis result save meh from having to defend/explain why we women get 10/15/20 from some big name Football country in de Olympics.....oh an Shabazz could haul he stinkin Muslimeem ass, no glory for him! Solomon McCloed RIP!
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I remember they had the Skeene brothers and Hyacinth in charge of the National women's team and they got rid of them. It was the fittest the team ever was. Proper eating and living style was emphasize. No friendship thing, yuh know what they get rid of them. There are other coaches who are willing to coach the women just they would not force their way in.
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I izatrini.. ok de games done... we aint make it from world cup qualifiers to olympic qualifiers... Everyone is pointing a finger...Jack, Shabazz and TTFA.. Jack well women football is growing and new measures and opportunities should be made.. Like you aint saw how Trinidad and Tobago made it to Germany... if it was not for the coach we would be at home.. Its is about time you focus on womens football.. If Jack had taken the time to make good preparations for the qualifiers and invest in a good coach we could of been going to Bejing .. well they did play some DIV 1 teams and lost so I will have to say invest in a pool of good players also..how yah go lost to some Div 1 teams not even in the top 10 rankings at NCAA...Shabazz is a ok coach but yet he has to prove himself on the women football level.. He ever win anything??? Its about time ..There are coaches out there but TTFA dont like spending time and money on women football. The women league and schooling system is poor... TTFA needs to develop these system and the pool of players to be a good force to international competition... Anyway the games are over Lincoln Phillip like u aint learn nothing out here in the USA.. Youll aint saw what TEAM USA did after the women world cup lost to Brazil. They got rid of that coach..They were in a mess but they look ok now ent... I fed up see we lost ... we had a chance but its time for a new beginning with a new obligation and purpose weee.... let we see TEAM TRINIDAD and TOBAGO nah...
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I'll be honest: I can't believe Jack said that to Shabazz! WHOAAAA! But it's true: we neva shoulda eaten 6 from Canada.... We really too good for that! The women are talented, but maybe fitness needs to be a lil tighter! I don't understand how the women's player pool is so small? DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY TRINIS ARE LIVING ABROAD? Or at least trinis by certification who are MORE THAN WILLING to play????? MANY. And many GOOD ONES at that. We should not have lost to CR either.... they ent good by any means, and our players are BETTER. True that there's nothing we can do at this point, but even with sending the girls down there a week early, the results stayed the same.... Something needs to change, but only ppl behind the scenes (like the players) know what that change needs to be.... I liked Miss Brown... Why doesn't SHE take the reigns? She works dem girls HARD.... Esp. with regards to fitness.... And WHY did we send Shabazz and not Charles????? Anyone know??
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because Shabazz is de womans boss...TD
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Yah forget its T&T football nah .. Its what TTFA does best shuffle coaches (the coaches merry go round system) Its about time they clean house and get out of that mentality... Time for TTFA to start a new beginning like they aint see everybody changing and moving to new levels men and women football rollin and we moving backward.. thumbs up to the men with the pool of players , but the women what is going on with the pool of players ...Ask the players .... take a hint Jack...
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Yah forget its T&T football nah .. Its what TTFA does best shuffle coaches (the coaches merry go round system) Its about time they clean house and get out of that mentality... Time for TTFA to start a new beginning like they aint see everybody changing and moving to new levels men and women football rollin and we moving backward.. thumbs up to the men with the pool of players , but the women what is going on with the pool of players ...Ask the players .... take a hint Jack...
You are right it's what the TTFF does best and it's because they have no choice,if they don't do that they have to seek outside help,we are limited where quality Coaches are concerned in T&T,if you look at the history of our Coaches it's the same ones being recycled,so as you said we are always going backwards,if you have a Coach you fired and in a couple years you brought him back i don't think that's a sign of progress.
I like the clean house and new beginning statements you made,i too wish we could turn some of our pages so we can move on but it's easier said than done,when we try to look at who we going to restart with we will realize there isn't much,our hands are tied when it come to professional help,experts that can guide us,give us a long range plan,give us some goals to achieve,Lincoln is the only person i've heard said anything along those lines but he alone can't do it.
My observation is that the TTFF have a lot of plans but implementing them is where the problems are,we just don't have the personnel to do it,we need more qualified people if any thing is to be a success.
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Coops, I hear you; I wonder if there is any active effort put into looking for other qualified professional (Trini)people who could give sound advise and assist with proper short and long term planning.
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CKI I am not sure if that is a real focus at the moment. Real men making some good points as I skim through some of these post. There are many untapped resources that is not being used. Someone alluded to attracting some of the overseas talents to increase the pool. I would agree with that idea especially since there are many talented female players here in the US with some sort of trini connection that will give them the right to don the red white and black uniform. To add to that I know nough men who will be wiling to do free scouting for Sweet TNT to help identify these players for them. Countries all over the world do it so we can take a page and do the same. In the beginning Mexico built their womens team using that format now look where they are at.
There are many trini coaches here in the US who are presently playing major roles in the development of the women's game at the youth and senior levels. I am sure them fellas will be willing to share ideas that can be used to assist with the further development of the womens game back home. There are also men I know from Trini who are coaching womens university teams who will be willing to make their facilities and housing available to offset some cost as well as find good competition for them to play against. I know this can happen on a yearly basis. Obviously this is not the end all. There is a lot more to be done but some of the things I mentioned above can go a long way to assisting in the further growth and development of the women's program.
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
Who are you? i guess you are not a Trini right?i agree with you may be we don't know,well help us Mr know it all,give us some information we don't know so we could stop talking crap,give us the half we don't know.
If you know Trinis,you would know we like talking crap but we can be very serious when we ready so don't come on here to vent your feelings on us,if you don't want to tell anybody what you know tell me i want to know what we wrong whay the girls draw.
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Costa Rica sneak one in
Ian Prescott iprescott@trinidadexpress
Saturday, April 12th 2008
Being a little naive in international football cost Trinidad and Tobago a semi-final place at the CONCACAF Olympic Qualifiers which end on Sunday in Cuidad Juarez, Mexico.
Returning home on Wednesday, Jamaal Shabazz, who was in charge of the T&T women's football team for the tournament, had a laugh when he recalled the circumstances that led to Costa Rica earning a 2-2 draw with the T&T "Soca Princesses".
Trinidad and Tobago played two matches, losing the first 6-0 to Canada, but would have still reached the semi-finals had they beaten the Costa Ricans.
With the point gained against T&T, Costa Rica went on to lose 1-0 to finalists Canada, thus eliminating the Caribbean team on goal-difference.
Costa Rica also put up a fight in Wednesday's semi-final, holding the USA goalless for a half , before eventually falling by a 3-0 margin.
Shabazz explained the dubious circumstances which led to the Soca Princesses not getting the victory which would have given them an automatic semi-final spot.
"We were leading 2-1 from since the first half, when Costa Rica scored in the last minute ," Shabazz recalled. "One of the Costa Ricans got injured, so in the spirit of fair play we put the ball out of the field. Afterwards, when the Costa Ricans took the resulting throw in our half, our girls hesitated, expecting them to give the ball back. Instead, one of the Costa Rican players crossed it to her teammate who took it down and scored the equaliser." The lapse in concentration apart, Shabazz felt Trinidad and Tobago should have put away the game against Costa Rica much earlier, missing three simple chance through Akheela Mollon, Kennya Cordner and Maylee Attin Johnson.
Shabazz admitted that Canada were better than Trinidad and Tobago, but he also felt there were positives coming out of that defeat.
"There was a time long ago when we could never get behind the Canadian defence," he said. "But, in that match, we were able to get behind them about six times. The results were not what we wanted, but the gap between us and those teams has definitely started to narrow."
Shabazz also felt that inexperience in the goalkeeping department cost Trinidad and Tobago heavily.
T&T opted to use untested 17-year-old Tobago keeper Kamika Forbes, sister of Under-17 midfielder Karyn Forbes. She has now become the country's number one due to the inactivity of former regular Lisa Jo Ramkisoon and the retirement of Nicole Mitchell.
While there is a lot of potential in the outfield, Shazazz said at all levels Trinidad and Tobago had a goal-keeping problem.
"Three of the goals we conceded against Canada will not score against her (Forbes) two years from now," Shabazz declared. "I think we had the right plan, which was to approach the game defensively, but there are a lot of things that happen on the field which we do not cater for." ???
Shabazz said the greatest benefit coming out of the tournament is that eight of the Trinidad and Tobago footballers have gained experience playing at the highest level and are still available for the CONCACAF Under-20 Final Round Qualifiers which will be played in June
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
Who are you? i guess you are not a Trini right?i agree with you may be we don't know,well help us Mr know it all,give us some information we don't know so we could stop talking crap,give us the half we don't know.
If you know Trinis,you would know we like talking crap but we can be very serious when we ready so don't come on here to vent your feelings on us,if you don't want to tell anybody what you know tell me i want to know what we wrong whay the girls draw.
Who is this poster in truth boy ?
De man (or woman) real bold to come on here with they second post and start to lambase man here boy. And they take a next poster's name and modify it too oui :o
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Who is this poster in truth boy ?
De man (or woman) real bold to come on here with they second post and start to lambase man here boy. And they take a next poster's name and modify it too oui :o
There was a shortage of originality...
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
Who are you? i guess you are not a Trini right?i agree with you may be we don't know,well help us Mr know it all,give us some information we don't know so we could stop talking crap,give us the half we don't know.
If you know Trinis,you would know we like talking crap but we can be very serious when we ready so don't come on here to vent your feelings on us,if you don't want to tell anybody what you know tell me i want to know what we wrong whay the girls draw.
Who is this poster in truth boy ?
De man (or woman) real bold to come on here with they second post and start to lambase man here boy. And they take a next poster's name and modify it too oui :o
who cares if it is him/her second post..
he/she talk sense dey and it eh have no copyright on forum name..
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
Dis post sounding like mey boi Shabazz. Shabazz, if dat is u, send yuh boi Steve ah pm, it is brother M in Miami. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
ELAN, may be yuh missing meh point my friend, Supa doh have tuh come again. I know Shabazz real good, from since 19 o long and I can surely vow for him and say dat he take his job very seriously. If you want to say dat he make some questionable decisions, dat is cool. He is human, just like all de other coaches in de world dat makes questionable decisions, so I guess he just have to learn from his mistakes. Yuh know plenty women players, cool, well I know most ah de women players dat played under him from since Nelson was playing on dat team ;) and most of dem had great things to say about de bredda. How far back yuh know yuh women players? Talk tuh meh nah man.
I agree wid Warner, but I also stand by saying Shabazz mean good when ever he is in charge of any team, he always want success and taking it tuh de next level. All yuh know ah does tell out and tell all yuh as it is. Are you all judging Shabazz for his work dat he put in as a coach or you al naturally dislike him cuz he is ah Muslim? Supa eh stupid, ah cud feel de vibe from some of you all, but anyway, dat is yuh human rights, yuh cud like or dislike anyone for what ever reason :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
ELAN, may be yuh missing meh point my friend, Supa doh have tuh come again. I know Shabazz real good, from since 19 o long and I can surely vow for him and say dat he take his job very seriously. If you want to say dat he make some questionable decisions, dat is cool. He is human, just like all de other coaches in de world dat makes questionable decisions, so I guess he just have to learn from his mistakes. Yuh know plenty women players, cool, well I know most ah de women players dat played under him from since Nelson was playing on dat team ;) and most of dem had great things to say about de bredda. How far back yuh know yuh women players? Talk tuh meh nah man.
I agree wid Warner, but I also stand by saying Shabazz mean good when ever he is in charge of any team, he always want success and taking it tuh de next level. All yuh know ah does tell out and tell all yuh as it is. Are you all judging Shabazz for his work dat he put in as a coach or you al naturally dislike him cuz he is ah Muslim? Supa eh stupid, ah cud feel de vibe from some of you all, but anyway, dat is yuh human rights, yuh cud like or dislike anyone for what ever reason :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
SUPA I know about all them players you talking about. I don't want to buss no files, it will serve no true purpose. Now....as in these recent, years the National team has changed a bit because of parental participation in and around the team. I wish them luck.
We will be in this situation for a long time to come. I hope they can give the team and staff some help.
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
ELAN, may be yuh missing meh point my friend, Supa doh have tuh come again. I know Shabazz real good, from since 19 o long and I can surely vow for him and say dat he take his job very seriously. If you want to say dat he make some questionable decisions, dat is cool. He is human, just like all de other coaches in de world dat makes questionable decisions, so I guess he just have to learn from his mistakes. Yuh know plenty women players, cool, well I know most ah de women players dat played under him from since Nelson was playing on dat team ;) and most of dem had great things to say about de bredda. How far back yuh know yuh women players? Talk tuh meh nah man.
I agree wid Warner, but I also stand by saying Shabazz mean good when ever he is in charge of any team, he always want success and taking it tuh de next level. All yuh know ah does tell out and tell all yuh as it is. Are you all judging Shabazz for his work dat he put in as a coach or you al naturally dislike him cuz he is ah Muslim? Supa eh stupid, ah cud feel de vibe from some of you all, but anyway, dat is yuh human rights, yuh cud like or dislike anyone for what ever reason :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
SUPA I know about all them players you talking about. I don't want to buss no files, it will serve no true purpose. Now....as in these recent, years the National team has changed a bit because of parental participation in and around the team. I wish them luck.
We will be in this situation for a long time to come. I hope they can give the team and staff some help.
I appreciate what everybody knows about our women's national team and the Coach etc etc i ask questions or give my views on what ever little info i have,i am sensitive towards women's Football because my daughter played for T&T for many years,she was even good enough to get a scholarship to the US so i think i know enough of what goes on and been going on with our women,if you all know Tricia Cooper you will know who i'm talking about,i would like to know some of the problems women's Football have that the men's teams don't,all our national teams have the same problems is just that they take care of the men and don't care about the women,you are right is recent years they have started taking notice and we starting to notice changes taking place.
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
ELAN, may be yuh missing meh point my friend, Supa doh have tuh come again. I know Shabazz real good, from since 19 o long and I can surely vow for him and say dat he take his job very seriously. If you want to say dat he make some questionable decisions, dat is cool. He is human, just like all de other coaches in de world dat makes questionable decisions, so I guess he just have to learn from his mistakes. Yuh know plenty women players, cool, well I know most ah de women players dat played under him from since Nelson was playing on dat team ;) and most of dem had great things to say about de bredda. How far back yuh know yuh women players? Talk tuh meh nah man.
I agree wid Warner, but I also stand by saying Shabazz mean good when ever he is in charge of any team, he always want success and taking it tuh de next level. All yuh know ah does tell out and tell all yuh as it is. Are you all judging Shabazz for his work dat he put in as a coach or you al naturally dislike him cuz he is ah Muslim? Supa eh stupid, ah cud feel de vibe from some of you all, but anyway, dat is yuh human rights, yuh cud like or dislike anyone for what ever reason :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
SUPA I know about all them players you talking about. I don't want to buss no files, it will serve no true purpose. Now....as in these recent, years the National team has changed a bit because of parental participation in and around the team. I wish them luck.
We will be in this situation for a long time to come. I hope they can give the team and staff some help.
Cool thing meh family, ah cud reason wid yuh man, yuh doh take things personal and get all bent and out of shape for no reason. Respect :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Shabazz is a real good brother, that really take his job seriously. However, unfortunately Shabazz, I have to support Mr. Warner on his statement. I like that Mr. Warner , come down hard on each individual, hold people accountable for any failure we may have on any of our national teams, especially the men senior team. At this point in time, I wouldn't say that we are better than USA or Mexico, or may be even CR, but on any given day with heart and effort right down to the final whistle, we can get a favorable result, against any of those countries.
In my opinion, we are right there, may be just a few steps behind those above mentioned countries. I think with us having a world cup appearance, some experienced lads on the team, that are playing at a high level, we should soon find out with this WCQ ahead of us, if we are really behind the big name CONCACAF teams. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Take his job seriously my rass.......how many years now Shabazz misusing players. Players training hard for months and then Shabazz carrying player who train for a week to player leaving out the dedicated players. Come again SUPA. I know plenty women player quit because of favoritism by this coach. Carrying players to tournament overseas because they want them to get scholarships, or because is friend thing. Taking forwrds and playing them as defenders just to include them on the trip and all kind of mess. He create he own monster now deal with it. As long as he is cooach we could have what good players we will always be 4th or fifth.
ELAN, may be yuh missing meh point my friend, Supa doh have tuh come again. I know Shabazz real good, from since 19 o long and I can surely vow for him and say dat he take his job very seriously. If you want to say dat he make some questionable decisions, dat is cool. He is human, just like all de other coaches in de world dat makes questionable decisions, so I guess he just have to learn from his mistakes. Yuh know plenty women players, cool, well I know most ah de women players dat played under him from since Nelson was playing on dat team ;) and most of dem had great things to say about de bredda. How far back yuh know yuh women players? Talk tuh meh nah man.
I agree wid Warner, but I also stand by saying Shabazz mean good when ever he is in charge of any team, he always want success and taking it tuh de next level. All yuh know ah does tell out and tell all yuh as it is. Are you all judging Shabazz for his work dat he put in as a coach or you al naturally dislike him cuz he is ah Muslim? Supa eh stupid, ah cud feel de vibe from some of you all, but anyway, dat is yuh human rights, yuh cud like or dislike anyone for what ever reason :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
SUPA I know about all them players you talking about. I don't want to buss no files, it will serve no true purpose. Now....as in these recent, years the National team has changed a bit because of parental participation in and around the team. I wish them luck.
We will be in this situation for a long time to come. I hope they can give the team and staff some help.
I appreciate what everybody knows about our women's national team and the Coach etc etc i ask questions or give my views on what ever little info i have,i am sensitive towards women's Football because my daughter played for T&T for many years,she was even good enough to get a scholarship to the US so i think i know enough of what goes on and been going on with our women,if you all know Tricia Cooper you will know who i'm talking about,i would like to know some of the problems women's Football have that the men's teams don't,all our national teams have the same problems is just that they take care of the men and don't care about the women,you are right is recent years they have started taking notice and we starting to notice changes taking place.
Coop's,
As you probably noticed, ah does take ah real quick browse on de forum and dip, cuz ah have a lot going on lately, cool. Tuh be honest, some how ah missed your first post, after reading the last one you did, I was asking myself, damn like meh family offended by my comments on Shabazz.
However, after reading your posts, I definitely see why you said the things in your posts. May be you all might be right with some of your observations about Shabazz, may be being around at dat time, I just couldn't see those things. I will stick by saying he is a very hard worker and dedicated to his job, I know dat for a fact. Sorry to hear dat about your daughter, I know how dat cud feel, if you did, don't take my posts personal. I just know some things about Shabazz, and I have to stand up and represent him, just like I will do for any of our players and staff, if I need to :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSSED.
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Coops,
I should have made the connection with you and Tricia. You and a handful of Trini are fortunate enough to say that father and sibling(daughter or son ) played for TT. Congrats Breds.
Taking that aside, it is a pity it took so long for them to recognize the importance of the women's game. They don't bring in the big crowds(as yet), but we have to work on development at all levels. The girls/ladies want to play, but resources are lacking. If there were no scholarships for the ladies to play college ball, they would have been in wore shape.
I am tired of the token gestures given the females. We want substansive efforts from the administration. NOW!!!!
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
Who are you? i guess you are not a Trini right?i agree with you may be we don't know,well help us Mr know it all,give us some information we don't know so we could stop talking crap,give us the half we don't know.
If you know Trinis,you would know we like talking crap but we can be very serious when we ready so don't come on here to vent your feelings on us,if you don't want to tell anybody what you know tell me i want to know what we wrong whay the girls draw.
Who is this poster in truth boy ?
De man (or woman) real bold to come on here with they second post and start to lambase man here boy. And they take a next poster's name and modify it too oui :o
who cares if it is him/her second post..
he/she talk sense dey and it eh have no copyright on forum name..
Whilst it have no copyright to names on the forum, yuh could see that it there is a possibility that it could cause some confusion down the road. I remember a particular thread not long ago that could have turned sour with Jus Cool and Just Cool.
More to the point...the poster come on the board and make suggestions about Trinis traits, irregardless of whether is true or not, but failed to identify what knowledge he/she had concerning the topic in question. Days pass and they never respond to Coops post....if yuh have facts, put yuh hand up and say yuh piece instead of just rambling about "alyuh Trinis".
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Not to mention that of the poster's 2 contributions BOTH are essentially identical ... almost a year apart
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3992;sa=showPosts
Somebody corn geh mash? ...
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Well at least they sounding like they probably close to the women's football, or probably have women football at heart.
Then at least come out and state some facts and enlighten us, the ignorants, who jes bumping we gums...dais all.
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Supa you know we cool,i'm not one to nitpick at anybody just give my views on the way i feel about situations taking place,i've always stood up for Shabazz right or wrong and is because we are all Coaches,i know how it feels when you are doing the best you can under adverse conditions and people expect the best results,Shabazz is like a father to our women Footballers,i wouldn't even try to list the things he have done for these girls,i know if it was not for him my daughter may not have made it to where she reached in the game,i was not in T&T when she made it so no one can say i had any influence on the Coach,she made it while going to Mucurapo Sr Com that's how good she was.The guy works hard and i give him credit for that,it's the same thing Marvin Oliver said.
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watch na alyuh trinis rel bad yes..alyuh doh have a life. alyuh know what them girls does go through...i could tell half ah alyuh bored with alyuh life and just like shit talk..
we all know that they should not draw that game, but typical trinis dont kno half of the story but jump to conclusions. I guess when you life boring and you need to vent bad talking the sports people who working hard and going through the stress is exciting. Whatever floats alyuh boat..but get alyuh facts straight before yuh talk yuh crap!!
Who are you? i guess you are not a Trini right?i agree with you may be we don't know,well help us Mr know it all,give us some information we don't know so we could stop talking crap,give us the half we don't know.
If you know Trinis,you would know we like talking crap but we can be very serious when we ready so don't come on here to vent your feelings on us,if you don't want to tell anybody what you know tell me i want to know what we wrong whay the girls draw.
Who is this poster in truth boy ?
De man (or woman) real bold to come on here with they second post and start to lambase man here boy. And they take a next poster's name and modify it too oui :o
who cares if it is him/her second post..
he/she talk sense dey and it eh have no copyright on forum name..
Whilst it have no copyright to names on the forum, yuh could see that it there is a possibility that it could cause some confusion down the road. I remember a particular thread not long ago that could have turned sour with Jus Cool and Just Cool.
More to the point...the poster come on the board and make suggestions about Trinis traits, irregardless of whether is true or not, but failed to identify what knowledge he/she had concerning the topic in question. Days pass and they never respond to Coops post....if yuh have facts, put yuh hand up and say yuh piece instead of just rambling about "alyuh Trinis".
the bredder/sistren was just expressing her frustration which was warranted in my opinion.. it have no honor system or seniority meter on the forum that governs the content of the post.
chances are, he/she ent here to stay so i doubt much thought or effort went into identifying a unique forum name..
that aside, i understand where the comment came from which is why I see the merit even if you see it as a mere ramble.
Ok so, the women's team lost, but lo and behold out of the shadows come a whole heap of foreign based experts looking to throw in dey 2 cents about lack of preparation, faulty infrastructure, lack of effort etc etc etc.. I could more reason with this if it was the men's team or some international team where information about everything is readily available for perusal and assessment. But imo the majority of critics don't have a clue about the slightest thing going on in the women's program back at home, but just criticising for criticsing sake.. Dont get me wrong because some of the comments were well-informed from people who had intimate knowledge about the ongoings. But like the poster said, for the most part is like people really have nothing better to do.
Allyuh trinis!
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Supa you know we cool,i'm not one to nitpick at anybody just give my views on the way i feel about situations taking place,i've always stood up for Shabazz right or wrong and is because we are all Coaches,i know how it feels when you are doing the best you can under adverse conditions and people expect the best results,Shabazz is like a father to our women Footballers,i wouldn't even try to list the things he have done for these girls,i know if it was not for him my daughter may not have made it to where she reached in the game,i was not in T&T when she made it so no one can say i had any influence on the Coach,she made it while going to Mucurapo Sr Com that's how good she was.The guy works hard and i give him credit for that,it's the same thing Marvin Oliver said.
Thanks for that line sah, that I know for sure. At least de people dat might have doubted me when I said so, I'm sure dey will think differently now. Bless meh bredda, respect to you all the time, ah man cud never get mad and cuss yuh out here, cuz yuh does address things openly and yet still respect your fellow members and Supa have huge respect for you, cuz of that :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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I see nough men making some valid points. However, I will continue to take the road I have always chosen which is simply to not be critical but drop lil knowledge based on my experiences in the women's game for the past 18 years. I am not home so I can't comment on things I have no knowledge on. I do still follow tnt football religiously though. I am of the belief that we can steal ideas and learn from countries who are ahead of us. There was a time when the US was the top team in the World, this is no longer the case because I have seen coaches and administrators come in from Brazil, Germany, Canada, Mexico and Asia just to name a few. Their goal was to steal ideas and concepts which they implement in their national teams today. I too have been a part of US contingents travelling abroad to return the favor and I have benefited each time as well as the US youth national teams I have worked with
We will all agree that there is alot to be done. Trini is truly a young female footballing nation but we have some talented ones. I remember having a conversation with Mia Hamm a few years ago about Maylee. She wished she was a US citizen so she could play for the US. I believe we have some very talented female players at home. Many of you all have already alluded to this. There is a general consensus that with serious/legitimate support from the football administration we can achieve so much more. At the same time there is a belief that our trini coaching staff could perform better. I know Shabazz long time back when we called him Hyron Best. I have not been around his stint with the womens team so ah cah say much about that.
I want to see these girls do well so bad. It was tough to see my ODP team rough up our 17's in Costa Rica. The majority of these girls I have been working with for the past three years. I wish our trini girls all the best though. I just hope that we will continue to grow and get better. Bless Up Ladies
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nnyman18 do you think that if we kept our female players at home ie not send them to college out here. Enroll them in UTT or UWI and have aan academy with KNOWledgable coaches working with them right through will help? I mean....coaches like yourself who kow how to take players to the next level and have been around. They will be readily available, fit and can travel together during the year playing games. I know the college experience out here is a good one, but looking at the US team (even Canada) they have their players right here. It is problems and disruptive for players to be leaving school for 3 weeks and coaches and professors pressuring them.
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Elan: your suggestion is definitly a good one but would not necessarily be good for the female player. The women have very limited opportunity to make a living from football and the US College opportunity at least gives them a chance to get an education. It's much easier for many of them to be admitted to a US college than UTT or UWI.
The American and Canadian players who are attending college have the same issues with professors and class attendance, so the USSF and CFA have to work around the college system as well. T&T needs to create a structured schedule which would allow them to conduct traing and camps around the college academic calendar...Sprig Break training camp etc. This could be done in the US as most of the players attend schools within fairly good travel proximity. The staff can travel to the US with the remaining T&T based players. Training in T&T in the summer(3 months) and Christmas (1 month)when the players are out of school. The summer could include a trip to Europe where they can play a number of teams. Christmas could include a trip to Brazil...nuff teams right there to play. Invite teams to come to T&T as well for friendlies in a tournament format.
The bigger question is the availability of financial and personnel resourses to make this kind of committment to the future of the women's game. I suspect that scheduling may be difficult for the personnel involved...if the WTD is the National team coach for Guyana; the head coach for a pro club and also coaching the WNT. I don't know any other place where a TD also coaches a club or national team...so some of these things need to be looked at in terms of providing the best system/opportunity for the female players to get what they need in terms of proper support for their development.( PS: THIS IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO BASH SHABBAZZ...I know him from way back in the day and believe he means well for football...men and women)
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I see nough men making some valid points. However, I will continue to take the road I have always chosen which is simply to not be critical but drop lil knowledge based on my experiences in the women's game for the past 18 years. I am not home so I can't comment on things I have no knowledge on. I do still follow tnt football religiously though. I am of the belief that we can steal ideas and learn from countries who are ahead of us. There was a time when the US was the top team in the World, this is no longer the case because I have seen coaches and administrators come in from Brazil, Germany, Canada, Mexico and Asia just to name a few. Their goal was to steal ideas and concepts which they implement in their national teams today. I too have been a part of US contingents travelling abroad to return the favor and I have benefited each time as well as the US youth national teams I have worked with
We will all agree that there is alot to be done. Trini is truly a young female footballing nation but we have some talented ones. I remember having a conversation with Mia Hamm a few years ago about Maylee. She wished she was a US citizen so she could play for the US. I believe we have some very talented female players at home. Many of you all have already alluded to this. There is a general consensus that with serious/legitimate support from the football administration we can achieve so much more. At the same time there is a belief that our trini coaching staff could perform better. I know Shabazz long time back when we called him Hyron Best. I have not been around his stint with the womens team so ah cah say much about that.
I want to see these girls do well so bad. It was tough to see my ODP team rough up our 17's in Costa Rica. The majority of these girls I have been working with for the past three years. I wish our trini girls all the best though. I just hope that we will continue to grow and get better. Bless Up Ladies
Ah believe yuh just educated a few people on dat, cuz ah sure a lot of people didn't know dat is Mr. Hyron Best. A lot of dem I believe got to know this gentleman by Shabazz, due to you all know what. I will never mention dat on de forum and dis meh brother. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Definitely wasn't trying to dis me brother deh because I have real love for that man since the early 80's. Jamal took me under his wings back in the day as a brother trying to make it in coaching school. So no man could never get me to say nothing bad bout that brother on no forum. As men already say Jamal take them girls and them at a time when no one else would have done what he did. So de brother needs to always get love for that. So as I have said before. I ain't spending no time on this forum criticising. Ah only dropping knowledge.
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Elan CKI address some of the questions you posed for me. So I will like to expound on it a little. I think as long as we familiarize ourselves with the American school system it could work. Both the ODP program and the US national team youth programs work around the players school schedules but there are times when we do run into situations where the players may have to miss school. With the college players its a bit different. So it will not hurt for us to schedule events around their school schedules knowing that at times it will be hard.
Teams like Canada have benefited greatly from their players playing in the college league here. So I wouldn't want to see our trini girls not be able to take advantage of this opportunity. I would actually like to see the opposite. I would love to see more girls here playing not just in college but eventually in the women's league which is about to form soon.
I would say that over time as the trini pool of players increase and become better we can look into keeping more players at home.
As for me being involved. I am sure we have nough quality men home to handle that venture. I wouldn't mind being a resource when it comes to sharing information or be part of a scouting team that constantly search for trini/ American players abroad. The qualified trini men out here ( and there are a lot of them) could even be working in conjunction with the staff in trini as it relates to the trini players abroad. Just this weekend I went to a tournament to scout for players and saw some trini Canadians playing for a club called AJAX. These girls were very good U-17 players. In the same breath I know nough trini American players who would jump at the idea to wear red black and white. They will only serve to further develop our team in the long run. As I have said before nough countries have done it before. So we won't be the first.
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As a coach I will say this simply... everyone has the answers to the match AFTER the match done. The two easiest scapegoats in team sports are the officials and the coach. So it's easy to say that the coach blew it because a team that was probably better prepared than us managed to score a goal in the last minute of the game. No acknowledgement of the fact that this team came closer to something never done before than any other. It's the old not seeing the forest through the trees cliché or as is often the case here in T&T we have too inflated an opinion of our abilities.
I'm sure most of us who have coached can appreciate that preparation for a competition is more than just 1 week before a tournament. There are phases and cycles. There are the physical aspects, which can further be broken down into sport specific, e.g. techniques. Then there are mental aspects, e.g. tactical awareness. Then there are things that training alone can't deal with so there's learning that happens only after experiencing a situation. That is why veteran understanding is so important.
At the end of the day I am far more sympathetic to Shabazz and appreciative of his efforts given the things he has to deal with with regards to preparation that he has no control over.
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I agree with you brother. There needs to be more support given to the womens program. One week preparation has been glorified as though it was enough to get the team ready. Shabazz needs to be commended for his efforts thus far and not ridiculed by the administration. As coaches we are aware that sometimes the criticisms we receive are well deserved. However,to suggest that one week was enough preparation time is ludicrous.
Until the program receives the necessary support from the federation to move forward then the majority of the criticism against the staff is unwarranted
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I have asked this before but I suppose the answer is predictable. Does a videographer travel with any of our teams?
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That's a good question and I wonder if we'll get the answer. In hockey we still don't have a trained videographer on tours, but we've started taking extra players for exposure and they double role behind the camera. With limited resources it's the best that can happen at this point.
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The ideas/views concerning this topic is very interesting,the guys discussing the issues here seem to be quite knowledgeable about what they are talking about but i would just like to add my bit,not to repeat what has already been said.
Our Football has a major problem and unless we can find a way to solve it all the ideas/views we have will not be able to be implemented,we can't support our Footballers fulltime,staying at home has no future for a Footballer,a Footballer can't have Football as a career at home,when we need our players it's not possible to get them at any time,we can't have Camps for no length of time because players are contracted to clubs or going to school and are not available.
What i have noticed for years the people that are called up for training/Camps/Clinics are not the ones that represent us,the ones that represent us are not at home,so sometimes you want to do or initiate things but who you doing it with,imagine for the WC in Germany they take a man because he playing in Germany add him to the squad in place of guys who had been there from day one,these are some of the reasons why our Football is where it is,something have to be done,i don't have the answers i don't know,all i can say is it's affecting the development of our Football and national teams.
The question i've always asked and can't get an answer is, how other countries get their players when ever they need them,weather it's training/games/banquet/just call it they get them,these are some of the things i would like PFATT to deal with,this is about players.I must say also the TTFF have to find a better way of working around or through these clubs/schools so that we can have our players when needed,our players are put in tough positions at times where they have to make decisions concerning their bread and butter and people taking them and playing the fool,we have to put ourselves in their positions to know how it feels.
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I remember a few years ago a phone call came in to my head coach office whilst I was present, and he began talking to the person on the other side. After 3 mins. or so he said listen to this, and put the speaker phone on. Music playing loudly in the the background with a member of the T&T Women's football coaching staff seeking to secure the release of a female player. The head coach asked why did he want the particular player when he (the head coach) ad 2 other T&T female players who are just as good if not better. No explanation could be given. Not that the coach felt an explanation was required, but he had a lot invested in these players. The one requested by the National team did not even want to go. Her prior experiences with the team was not good. She ended up in airport on her way to trinidad with no ticket and had to sleep in the airport and such.
The lack of professionalism is all across the board, and this is where things have to change.
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TTFA needs to make many changes and development to the women national team.. they should follow suit as other teams.. ..Women football is growing and its about time the big heads in the TTFA take recognition to the game, coaching and its players... There are great trini players in Trinidad and Tobago also a lot of players in the USA with trini parentage..There should be a vast recruitment base of players. But not much is spent to gather these players...TTFA needs to raise and restructure the level of the women football competition. They also need to set the standard, professionalism, coaching, assistance and support for the national womens team...The best thing a trini girl footballer player can look forward to is a soccer scholarship..... To touch on ya point Elan professionalism comes a long way especially in trini where effort and hard work can be under mention..I have saw many players fell to the way side both men and women by the lack of coaches professionalism....As for trini ball preparation and hard work is the key.... I think as a coach one should prepare for the battle e.g. one of my old coaches spoke of david and goliatt. I think david did prepared to beat Goliatt. hence forth his success... I think our national team has known for years what they lack from its past scores and performances. Thus nothing have ever been done or put in place for success and growth.. It about time for a change ... if it aint wukkin try something new... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: jw
yah kah go wrong with de strong... izatrini
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Well said trinipepper. I will add that the scholarship will also be an opportunity for these girls to excel and then be seen. This will result in consideration given not just to the women's league which is about to begin very soon but to the other leagues over seas in places like England and Sweden.
I can assure you that I have been privy o some meaningful conversation concerning possible opportunities for top female players from trini in the American league that is about to begin.
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As a coach I will say this simply... everyone has the answers to the match AFTER the match done. The two easiest scapegoats in team sports are the officials and the coach. So it's easy to say that the coach blew it because a team that was probably better prepared than us managed to score a goal in the last minute of the game. No acknowledgement of the fact that this team came closer to something never done before than any other. It's the old not seeing the forest through the trees cliché or as is often the case here in T&T we have too inflated an opinion of our abilities.
I'm sure most of us who have coached can appreciate that preparation for a competition is more than just 1 week before a tournament. There are phases and cycles. There are the physical aspects, which can further be broken down into sport specific, e.g. techniques. Then there are mental aspects, e.g. tactical awareness. Then there are things that training alone can't deal with so there's learning that happens only after experiencing a situation. That is why veteran understanding is so important.
At the end of the day I am far more sympathetic to Shabazz and appreciative of his efforts given the things he has to deal with with regards to preparation that he has no control over.
Ah know Coop's is ah coach fuh sure, I don't know de bredda personally, but people here does rate him, so he is official in my book. To my knowledge, ah believe there may be 2 or 3 more people here dat are real coaches also, but you is ah coach 2 ???? Ah not trying tuh dis or be ah smart azz, but ah hearing dis coach word regular on dis forum lately, so I'm just curious if is real coaches here, or if is just men trying tuh look important nah. Ah might be wrong and yuh might be ah big name coach in T&T, if dat is de case, no scene, yuh cud educate meh. Yuh should know Supa by now, ah will tell anyone just as it is, but I will avoid dis, unless you start it :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED
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Coach(dwolfman) ah not trying tuh be rude meh friend, but like yuh run off on meh man. All these days gone by and yuh doh want tuh reply, so dat you can give me and de other members here your resume. Any way, cool thing :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.