Bakes, my point is this (of course I am apprpoximating numbers based on 20 yrs of observation. We have about 400 thousand Afro Carribean ppl in TO. So 30 percent is a little over 100 thousand. Now it might be a bit more or less but you talking about 100 thousand ppl. What is get me if I get vex and say Niggah dat or dis or beat someone black and call them racist names, the Afro WIs will probably kill me. But when they see their race doing it they are literally comatose. All dat mouth about racism is boil down like bagee.
Now if an afro WI wants to point out a specific case of opression in TO and it's true (some ppl regardless of background is see race every day, especially when they cant get their way) I will support him. However, if he wants to talk about opression from whitey. I have no intentions of pretending I don't see or know about the most obvious racism I see in TO.
One day I was at a BBQ in Brampton. The men were all black and sons of Trinis. They were talking about racism by white people. And of course they are right we have a racism problem in Canada. And black ppl in particular seem to have a problem with the police when driving. However, after 20 minutes about racist white people, I realzied that the conversation seemed more about racism in general. And I said to the host, "you've been living here longer than me. And you know there is nobody more shameless, bold or agressive when it comes to racism than a black WI." He just smiled and stopped talking. They all did. They're not bad, ignorant ppl. They're decent ppl who were unbiased. They have seen what I have seen. And yes they are black and I respect them as friends because they are decent.
It seems to confuse some here when I say some of my best friends are black WI.
Well we have racist whites in Canada, we have the Arian Nation and the New World Order. However that doesn't stop me from being friends with decent, good, white people.
I can assume that the Africans on this site have close friends who are white or Indian but that won't stop you from criticizing a racist Indian or white fool. As said before I will criticize any racist ass, including my own race. But that doesn't mean I can't show a proper human being - regardless of his race - the proper respect.
VB
still anecdotal with no real back-up. You do realize that all arguments to support your hypothesis that 30% of Black WI are overtly racist, and 70% don't give a damn begin with phrases such as (paraphrased):
"A friend told me ..."
"I was on the subway and saw ..."
"I was at a BBQ and he said ... "
You honestly believe that Torontonians are afraid to speak up against rampant racist actions perpetrated by black West Indians?
You seeing things you want to see.
And you totally miss the point behind comments about your comment "some of my best friends are black WI".
Hint: go goggle the phrase "some of my best friends are X"
I think you reading what you want to read.
Anecdotal makes it false. Extract your head from your anus. Yes, I HAVE SEEN IT and I am now telling you. My friends and colleagues HAVE SEEN it and I am now telling you. I guess I should ignore all those black ppl who have tales of woe - anecdotal is it not.
Re. black friends - that was explained in the simplest of Engish I don't have to google a damn thing. If the explanation is over your head, that is not my concern.
I tired see blacks and Indians make racist commnets about each other and other races. Yet they have friends who are of those races.
Strange when the white man say "I have black friends, is a joke." But they dont' seem to fall into that category....Oh, that's right - they are not white - so they get a special pass when it comes to being ignorant.
No I do not believe Torontonians are afraid to speak up against ignorant, black racists. They do it on the occassion I have witnessed it in public.
What I have noticed is some of the white ones don't want to confront black ppl in general becz some black ppl in TO think that if they bawl they black loud enough and long enough it makes them right and everybody else wrong and don't want to degenerate into no racist rampage in public. For the same reason when those yutes was bawling coolie coolie on the bus I let it go.
If what I and others have observed is not enough for you bez it's "anecdotal" what de fk else you want. You think ppl could take youback in time and show you. But if a black man say he brudder say the police spit on him and called him nigger, you go accept that anecdote right.
So because I have decent black friends I should tolerate dotish, racist black ppl. I don't tolerate racist Indians and my family is Indian. But not surprisingly racism is bad when everybody does it but lets find an excuse for the black man - he opressed, he was beat down. Great Granddaddy was a slave, he come from a single paren household. But make sure to pong whitey and everybody else when they racist.
Btw, I was washing my hands in the washroom at Eaton's shopping centre downtown, a black fella just start to call meh coolie and turban head. I had to actually think what turban head mean. There was no reason for it. I would clock he ass but I had my little brother with me and I thought just in case I get stabbed or shot I cah have this yute by heself downtonw, stressed out so. So I walk out.
Yes, that's my anecdote, one of many. I eh have no video but I eh a black man getting harassed by whitey so le we fee free to tell VB is an anecdote.
VB