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Title: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: gtokyo on November 07, 2005, 01:53:08 AM
Just anyone know what d top players in the professional league make per match.  I was reading back in 2003 that fellas like Dwarika was making $7500TT a match...Does anyone have a list? 
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: spideybuff on November 07, 2005, 06:54:09 AM
Not a match soldier, monthly...them men got paid like a normal job.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Aymir on November 07, 2005, 03:47:39 PM
that would be monthly indeed mate. i doubt whether any team in the league can afford to pay players much higher than that.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: SHOTTA on November 07, 2005, 03:51:57 PM
yea boss i doubt that

dem men makin at most 10000 i think cuz pro footballeres earn a good livin i think dats why so many other nationals cum here to play in we league
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: gtokyo on November 07, 2005, 09:34:47 PM
Is $7500  a month...Dwarika was making.Jack say dat was enough money for 90 minutes football a week. ;D
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: prodigy23 on November 07, 2005, 09:39:47 PM
at jabloth, the pay there players really good, but most make around 6000 - 8000. guys like witley make around 10000  a month
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: rippin on November 07, 2005, 09:52:03 PM
That is some decent money for the few games they does play.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: SHOTTA on November 07, 2005, 10:13:21 PM
few???

in my view dem men alwayssssssssss playing ballllllllll no matter rain or snow
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Ponnoxx on November 07, 2005, 11:45:22 PM
Just anyone know what d top players in the professional league make per match. I was reading back in 2003 that fellas like Dwarika was making $7500TT a match...Does anyone have a list?
If that kinda money was being paid... ;D I woulda play PFL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Baygo Boy on November 09, 2005, 09:29:05 AM
I know for a fact the only players playing for Jabloteh and Connection getting that amount of $$$$. The players on Defense force and Fire get civil servants type salaries (which is not bad), but the other clubs are way behind when it comes to salaries, some players in smaller clubs are playing for pride more than $$$$. Some of the best players on smaller clubs still working for $1,500.00 - $2,000.00 per month, and that is during the season only.

This  is the main reason why several Tobagonian based players stay in Tobago, they prefere to play non-pro ball, and work for the tourism dept for more $$$$ than they will be offered in Trinidad, and the main reason why some of Guyana's best talent are still in Guyana.

Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Ponnoxx on November 09, 2005, 09:48:03 AM
I know for a fact the only players playing for Jabloteh and Connection getting that amount of $$$$. The players on Defense force and Fire get civil servants type salaries (which is not bad), but the other clubs are way behind when it comes to salaries, some players in smaller clubs are playing for pride more than $$$$. Some of the best players on smaller clubs still working for $1,500.00 - $2,000.00 per month, and that is during the season only.

This is the main reason why several Tobagonian based players stay in Tobago, they prefere to play non-pro ball, and work for the tourism dept for more $$$$ than they will be offered in Trinidad, and the main reason why some of Guyana's best talent are still in Guyana.


That explain alot me...I always wondered why good footballers from Tobago doesn't play PFL...And All Tobagonians have speed ;D ;D  ;D.....Go T&T
Title: PFL- transfer fees and salaries
Post by: Teflon Don on November 23, 2005, 12:35:27 PM
ok i was wondering what are player salaries like back home in the pfl and do the clubs buy players from eachother or men jus leave on free transfers???
oh and who is the highest paid player in the pfl u all think?
Title: Re: PFL- transfer fees and salaries
Post by: KND2 on November 23, 2005, 12:53:49 PM
Salary can be anywhere from 2000 to 10000 TT a month.
But it depends on the team

The teams with money pay their guys more

Poorer teams the guys operate on a Stipend rather than a full professional contract so to say.

I think I saw somewhere 1500TT a month was the mininmum

Also take into consideration that they guys are not on the clock 9-5 most of the teams will practice 2-3 times a week with 1 or 2 games a week but it vary from club to club

Tobago United for example may only be practicing once a day for 2 hours so men free to find other work during the day.

W connection may be practicing 2-3 times a day with gym work etc and may actually have a full schedule with team meetings etc.

The majority of the set up are not that professional.


 
Title: Re: PFL- transfer fees and salaries
Post by: andre samuel on November 23, 2005, 01:07:18 PM
Salary can be anywhere from 2000 to 10000 TT a month.
But it depends on the team

The teams with money pay their guys more

Poorer teams the guys operate on a Stipend rather than a full professional contract so to say.

I think I saw somewhere 1500TT a month was the mininmum

Also take into consideration that they guys are not on the clock 9-5 most of the teams will practice 2-3 times a week with 1 or 2 games a week but it vary from club to club

Tobago United for example may only be practicing once a day for 2 hours so men free to find other work during the day.

W connection may be practicing 2-3 times a day with gym work etc and may actually have a full schedule with team meetings etc.

The majority of the set up are not that professional.


for a man who say that he see five PFL games in the last three years, u seem to have plenty 'files' on Tobago Utd and WConn...lol

How u know that Tobago united ent have gym work and team meeting sessions?

What u just described was how the SPFL used to operate!

Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: trinidad badboy on November 23, 2005, 02:16:51 PM
Just anyone know what d top players in the professional league make per match. I was reading back in 2003 that fellas like Dwarika was making $7500TT a match...Does anyone have a list?
If that kinda money was being paid... ;D I woulda play PFL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


me and u.  :rotfl:

but nah thats a good salary per month. nobosy sponsoring tnt pfl. but hopefully due to the world cup qualification we could get some money commin in and better the sport.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Teflon Don on November 23, 2005, 02:20:32 PM
AH SURE OTIS SALARY GOIN UP...HE MOST PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE PFL...DAZ IF HE STAY THERE NE LONGER
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: ironman on November 23, 2005, 02:26:14 PM
A PFL team training 2-3 times a week,which team is that boy? :thinking:
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: skins on November 23, 2005, 08:37:54 PM
Connection does train about 3 times a week on the field and on certain days they does do strength training at the gym. My cousin does play for connection.
Title: proleague salary
Post by: legal alien on February 09, 2006, 08:03:01 PM
 i wsas wondering what is the salary structure in the tt proleaguue? and  what player or players are being paid the highest.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 09, 2006, 09:12:10 PM
i read that whitley and grey would be the highest paid local pros ever with some new contract offer
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: juventus_fc on February 10, 2006, 06:11:19 AM
so what about the men who playing for Joe Public in the super leaugue....yall think they gettin more or less than them PFL men?
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: pardners on February 10, 2006, 10:09:25 AM
I lil birdie tell mih that when Jack (goalie) was with Jabloteh (capt) he was getting $9000/mth.  Aurtis was getting less, but in 2004 he was getting a chance to play for some club in Japan or China (cyah remember now) and Jerry Hospedales and them offered him $10,000, a house and a car to stay with Jabloteh.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 10, 2006, 10:10:12 AM
JUST FOR ALYUH INFORMATION.....the highest paid player/s in the PFL is those brazilians at W-Connection. They (Ronaldo and Jefferson) get $2000US a month.

Now tell me why the Trinidadians player like Kendall Davis and DeLeon have to be getting they lil $3500-$4000 TT ah month?

John Williams, respect yuh players boy!!!

Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: fivers on February 10, 2006, 10:21:34 AM
Is $7500  a month...Dwarika was making.Jack say dat was enough money for 90 minutes football a week. ;D

What about the other minutes of traini. Honestly though, that isn't bad
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: maxg on February 10, 2006, 10:41:06 AM
Ah wonder how much of that would get put aside for when they career done at 36-37 ? Ah hope they have in dey contract that the club will help dem find another job. Cause they savings won't pay for any further education/preparation.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 10, 2006, 11:58:49 AM
Maxg, who tell yuh them fellas going and last till 36-37 years playing ball...very very few men does do it and able to get paided very well doing it...I sorry for some of them Trini ballers ras.

Usually, a baller life span is from 15-30 years. Anything after 30 is going down hill. Salary caps does drop and performance does drop. So yuh done know. Ah really sorry for them men who making they lil 4000TT in this timing ras especially with the cost of living raising like crazy.

For all those who choose yuh scholarships, well done wee. It have it pros and cons eh. But i believe it was d better move for alyuh because not everybody does make it ras. Sad but true...it have real talent in Trinidad still trying to get a bly and salt like d nuts man for them.

Lets say alyuh scholar athletes finish school at 23 and then move on to play pro (lil A league or 2nd division) for ah lil small money till 28-29.... at least they could still have ah degree in dey hand to get a job. Mission accomplished....yuh played professional and yuh have ah degree!!
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 10, 2006, 12:03:19 PM
Maxg, who tell yuh them fellas going and last till 36-37 years playing ball...very very few men does do it and able to get paided very well doing it...I sorry for some of them Trini ballers ras.

Usually, a baller life span is from 15-30 years. Anything after 30 is going down hill. Salary caps does drop and performance does drop. So yuh done know. Ah really sorry for them men who making they lil 4000TT in this timing ras especially with the cost of living raising like crazy.

For all those who choose yuh scholarships, well done wee. It have it pros and cons eh. But i believe it was d better move for alyuh because not everybody does make it ras. Sad but true...it have real talent in Trinidad still trying to get a bly and salt like d nuts man for them.

Lets say alyuh scholar athletes finish school at 23 and then move on to play pro (lil A league or 2nd division) for ah lil small money till 28-29.... at least they could still have ah degree in dey hand to get a job. Mission accomplished....yuh played professional and yuh have ah degree!!

Imagine davis was a top sec school football player in the late 1990's Connection just killing we players
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 10, 2006, 12:17:31 PM
you telling me Triniman? I know breds....it sad....real real sad. the hard part is them fellas aint really no book men eh so yuh done know they have to depend on the football to live :(
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 10, 2006, 12:21:38 PM
you telling me Triniman? I know breds....it sad....real real sad. the hard part is them fellas aint really no book men eh so yuh done know they have to depend on the football to live :(
they have to put a cap on the number of foreign players on the field at once. I waiting to see player like shane careldon and pacheco  etc starting regular for connection. King man you know what eva happen to jason marcano why he left connection
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 10, 2006, 01:58:11 PM
Jason Marcano leave out W-Connection because w-connection was not willing to pay him a decent salary. he is now playing with jabloteh. After he left w-connection he went and played in the couva league under jan steadman and where he was getting a salary figure close to the amount he was getting with w-connection. Yuh feel them fellas care about yuh triniman? dey aint business nah breds.

Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: pardners on February 10, 2006, 03:53:31 PM
Fellas we might think that some of the players getting small money, but think about the money the club and the sponsers have to put out EVERY month with very little returns.

You have player salaries..say 30 men on roster (could be more) and an average salary of $3000 per man...
30 x 3000 = 90000
90000 x 12mths = 1,080,000
Then you have the coach, trainer, equipment manager salaries too...leh we jus say 100,000 per yr split between the three of dem.
total = $1,180,000

We eh check rental for grounds, facilities, equipment, meals, transport, medical (doctor bills when man injured).  Ah think dey does share the bill for EHS services on match days.  The ball boys does get a bread and cheese too, sometimes football.  You also have players insurance...not sure bout NIS and thing.

Dat is plenty money to put out....could more than 2 million a year, not including the 1/2 million to register the team.

How much is the first prize....$100,000 ?
Gate receipts....200 people (ah being generous here) at $20 a man...$4000.  Even if they charge $50 a man that is only $10000 a game

$10000 * 50 games =500,000  (not sure how many games the avg team will play a year, including friendlies and practice matches with a cover charge.

The only way the club making back money is by selling players (to foreign teams).  How much players good enough to make the grade ?

That is why sponsorship so hard to come by in TT.  All in all is big big risk for the club and sponsers in TT.  Sponsors really have to love the game and be real patriotic to put dey money in the PFL.  Sponsors whose business is food and drinks could franchise they products at the match venues, but if you is a building contractor, how much business deals you could cut at a football match.

The players themselves doh even have the sense of mind to support they own sponsors...KFC sponsoring and man eating Royal Castle.  Clico sponsering and when game done, man put on a jersey and cap advertising Chicago Bulls, Knicks, ManU, etc. Carib sponsoring...man saying dem only drinking black bottle and Red Bull.  That is a hard pill to swallow !

So all things considered, them fellas dam lucky to be getting $4000 a month.




Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 10, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
Pal, yuh make real real sense...me aint lying. But the point wah we was trying to make, although it did not come across in a proper way, is that the money in trinidad football is nil.

Secondly, why they have to be paying the brazilians 2000US ah month but giving d Trini Youte and them 3000TT? Yuh see wah ah coming from? Is just ah matter of principle because them Trini youte playing nice ball too.

But we aint lying pal, yuh make real real real sense. I have to admit!
 :beermug:
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: fishs on February 11, 2006, 02:01:51 AM
I believe before a team becomes eligible for the PFL the owners have to prove the ability to fund the the team for a  year minimum, the PFL also requires them to state the players salary structure and they even have to provide a bond that the PFL can use if the club goes bust during the season.
Presumably this bond is used to pay off creditors etc. I do not know if there is a salary cap and a mininum because it has never been published, but what I do know is all the players have to sign contracts where they have to be paid for their services.
Maybe we should get somebody to talk to Dexter Skeene.
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Ponnoxx on February 11, 2006, 10:09:58 AM
The PFL is not ten years old guys..It is still in a growing phase...Things could get better after the World Cup or it doesn't have to change...We will have to see....In Trinidad and Tobago professional football is not looked at as a good career path....There are alot of things that need to be implemented but I believe that it will come eventually...Rome was not built in a day
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Bally on February 11, 2006, 10:29:43 AM
This Pro league will grow and as far as the Brazilians salary come on can you look at all the leagues in the world and there will be one player that get more pay than the rest it have nothing to do about being from Trinidad it’s a business if W-Connection wants Brazilian players so be it they also have a lot of young players that will learn from the foreign players on the team and in the league
    Just saying  the youth form Trinidad should make the same pay just because he from Trinidad is an ignorant statement and a form of tribalism.     
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Baygo Boy on February 11, 2006, 12:43:20 PM
The biggest mistake the pro club owners made was to start paying such high salaries in the beginning knowing fully well that corporate T&T would not have supported in the manner we see elsewhere. How did they expect to support their clubs and players when the average attendence is around 1000 per game. I believe that the pro league was created so that our players will have a greater appeal to foreign clubs, without any care for the consequence. We saw great football and attendence in T&T prior to the pro-league, players played for the love of the game. I am not against the creation of the pro league, I question their intial motives.

They have set themselves up, that is why Warner had to bankroll Caledonia, and Brian Williams side could only afford to pay good players $1,000.00TT per month, and Tobago United can't secure our better players. The only reason Jabloteh and Connection doing well is because they have the $$$. Anybody who know anything bout T&T football  know that a San Juan side can't beat a South side, but the table turn when yuh put $$$$ on it. :devil: :devil: :beermug: :beermug:

Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 11, 2006, 01:48:38 PM
Baygo Boy, you real cracking me up breds :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

That is a very bold and ignorant statement :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 11, 2006, 04:13:17 PM
Just anyone know what d top players in the professional league make per match. I was reading back in 2003 that fellas like Dwarika was making $7500TT a match...Does anyone have a list?
If that kinda money was being paid... ;D I woulda play PFL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
ponnox yuh salary is determined by skill and ability.i feel you woulda pay dem.lol.ah kicksin bredda. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Ponnoxx on February 11, 2006, 06:07:43 PM
 The PFL is in the beginning stages...I honestly do not think there are players that make 7500 a month...Anything is a possiblity but I do not think so.....There are players making less than 3000 dollars but still playing and training...They probably should have continued with the semi-pro a little longer...But I hope they get more sponsorship soon and those salaries raise....Go T&T
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 13, 2006, 09:46:52 AM
The PFL is in the beginning stages...I honestly do not think there are players that make 7500 a month...Anything is a possiblity but I do not think so.....There are players making less than 3000 dollars but still playing and training...They probably should have continued with the semi-pro a little longer...But I hope they get more sponsorship soon and those salaries raise....Go T&T

Ponnoxx, keep yuh lil backside shut nah :rotfl:
I telling you that them Brazilians with W-Connection are getting $2000US ah moth boy. Some men in that PFL getting a nice piece of paper.

And for players making less than $3000, that real sad. I really hope them youths have a back up yuh know ras because when they get fedup of making that small money yuh know wah they will be tempted to do? OK...ENOUGH SAID!!

Ponnoxx, who yuh backin for the world cup?
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: Ponnoxx on February 13, 2006, 09:59:10 AM
 T&T of course...and Brazil
Title: Re: Salaries in T&T Professional League!!
Post by: kingman on February 13, 2006, 12:16:26 PM
T&T of course...and Brazil

Ah know yuh woulda say Brazil...but they not winning this year. It belongs to the Germans
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