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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2008, 03:10:39 PM »
Oh Lawd Tallman-

all seriousness some Orange Sky already help meh loose 5 lbs since meh wedding..... Just crank up de volume and run like ah beast....

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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2008, 03:25:57 PM »
Touches, yuh starting plan for approaching the 5k has to factor in when the race is ... yuh say January, but yuh eh say WHEN in January ... if the race is in late January you'll have the opportunity to do more endurance work that you can gradually supplement with a fartlek workout (in basic terms that's alternating the pace at which you run over a common distance/time period or you can elect to alternate the distance of the sprints/jogs).

The Savannah is a good location to do this if you divide it into segments that fit its natural layout ... I run counter-clockwise Savannahs, I eh know wha your approach is ... buh say yuh start by QRC, take it straight up from there to the nex' bend at a consistent pace, according to how yuh feel, decelerate/accelerate the next segment in front ah All Saints, then reverse the next natural segment/half segment as you go around the Savannah ...

Then I suggest you run another full Savannah at a comfortable pace (not too slow, somewhat challenging, lehwe say no less than 70% - no more than 80%).

Return to your starting point ... restrict your recovery period to no more than 7 - 8 minutes ... tackle the Savannah again with fartlek (this should be at least as aggressive as the initial fartlek) ... Make sure you finish strong over a reasonable distance in the end (not knowing yuh physical condition, buh since yuh kickin ball 3-4 times a week ... you should try to finish strong over 50-75 yards ... think of it as a finishing kick ... as you improve you'll learn to extend your kick and to determine when to kick ... I used to gear up for my kick as I rounded de final bend after the Hollows/the Zoo ... might be a good idea to finish wherever dey selling some coconut water ;)

Stretch, warm down ... call it ... I wouldn't stop your final burst abruptly, but I would gradually decelerate into a recovery walk (could be/should be at least the equivalent distance of your final burst) ... consciously think about your breathing/master your breathing and try to concentrate on running when you're running, rather than de sights.

Since yuh sweating 3-4 times  a week I eh know how yuh going to fit both in, but you should at least be running this cycle 3-4 times a week ... For your purposes, I would alternate days. If you thinking about running more frequently than that you can compensate with a longer weekend run instead.

The 5K is about 3 miles ... your daily training regimen doesn't need to exceed 8 or 9 miles (hence your weekend run should max out at this ... 7 miles long run optimally).

Hill Work?  ... again, I eh know yuh condition ... buh fuh me dahis marginal benefit fuh resistance purposes ... it need not be a part of yuh workout ...

Now, all a dis depends on your objectives ... ah 5k is a blazer ... buh maybe yuh planning on running it like a longer race and at a much slower clip than I have in mind.

If de race is earlier on in January ... lehwe say 4-5 weeks from now ... I would suggest no more than 3 weeks endurance work with weight training and the final 10 days to 2 weeks on speed with some minimal endurance (like de long weekend run)... You could incorporate fartlek here, but you could also just as well progressively sweat out de Xmas beers (ah trying to remember if yuh say yuh doh drink  :o) ... by going for time by monitoring your daily time progress each time you run the Savannah ... if dahis de case, do this: run your first Savannah slow as a warm up ... nutten more than 40%, run a second at least 60%-70%, run a third all out at 100%.

Good luck. Enjoy.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2008, 03:29:13 PM »
How dat making yuh gain weight ?

If yuh don't suck c**t , how yuh know about it ?

If anything it should make yuh lose weight either from it being a nutrient substitute or getting some debilitating disease.

Ah jus saying ....

Who in their right mind would "suck c__nt all bout de place"?


That alone should have let you on that my response was facetious.

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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2008, 04:56:23 PM »
Oh Lawd Tallman-

all seriousness some Orange Sky already help meh loose 5 lbs since meh wedding..... Just crank up de volume and run like ah beast....

orange sky with obasi and them? is rastamen who sing rock? didnt know they were that popular :-\
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2008, 05:28:54 PM »
Oh Lawd Tallman-

all seriousness some Orange Sky already help meh loose 5 lbs since meh wedding..... Just crank up de volume and run like ah beast....

orange sky with obasi and them? is rastamen who sing rock? didnt know they were that popular :-\

Dey been around a while, they signed a deal to endorse Dean Guitars (Dimebag Darell fame) which is pretty big for a local artist... and I saw them at a Music Festival in Bethlemem PA... so they on the up and up...! Dey drummer wicked 2 bad.  ;D

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2008, 05:34:39 PM »
Oh Lawd Tallman-

all seriousness some Orange Sky already help meh loose 5 lbs since meh wedding..... Just crank up de volume and run like ah beast....

orange sky with obasi and them? is rastamen who sing rock? didnt know they were that popular :-\

Dey been around a while, they signed a deal to endorse Dean Guitars (Dimebag Darell fame) which is pretty big for a local artist... and I saw them at a Music Festival in Bethlemem PA... so they on the up and up...! Dey drummer wicked 2 bad.  ;D

went to school with the drummer and saw him in ah wedding recently. told me about the band but i not into that music.
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2008, 11:39:24 PM »
Doh underestimate the value of a good pair of running shoes.
One of my partners is a serious runner and he keeps track of how much miles he put on his shoes and changes them out @ every 6 months. He was telling me that even though the sneakers look good, the impact from all the running starts to break down the rubber and foam and the support starts to deteriorate and could impact yuh knees.

Good advice.

From everything I've heard over the years...

New Balance
Saucony
Asics...


The best running shoes in that order.

Depends on whether one has wide feet or narrow feet or whether one is flatfooted ... also depends on whether one pronates or suponates ... that is, aside from personal preference. Certainly, Nike has very compelling products within the mix.
I hate Nikes ,for that shape in the middle of the shoe ,it go make me break my ankle ,.
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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2008, 07:44:05 AM »

Who in their right mind would "suck c__nt all bout de place"?


You would be surprised!!


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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2008, 09:12:47 AM »
asylumseeker,

Thanks for that heads up and training routine. I not aiming for no kinda best time or hard run kinda thing yet as it is my first 5k.

Is Clico own which will be the 19th of Jan I believe.'

All I want to do is keep a good pace and not be embarrassed by no fat ting, ole man, dog with a number etc.

I really doing it as a motivational thing to help with meh carnival physique. I take a chain up and I playing tennis too 2-3 times a week so really I just want to be active every day to help with the weight loss.

I get real talk last night after sweat...men lashing beers and I punk out and only drink 1 and a gatorade. This time about 6 rounds pass. But I trying to maintain a discipline.

I going and run 1 or 2 savannah this afternoon bout 6. Then go and play tennis from 7:30 till 9.

I resting tom and Saturday as I have christmas party and I will try not to overdo. I go run hard Sunday Afternoon.

Thanks for the advice fellas


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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2008, 09:24:22 AM »
All I want to do is keep a good pace and not be embarrassed by no fat ting, ole man, dog with a number etc.

It bong tuh happen. Dis is ah case where yuh relly cyar judge ah book by it's cover especially regarding old people. Plenty ah dem does be fit too bad and dey go leave yuh out. Doh study it  :rotfl:
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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2008, 09:30:04 AM »
Oh Lawd Tallman-

all seriousness some Orange Sky already help meh loose 5 lbs since meh wedding..... Just crank up de volume and run like ah beast....

orange sky with obasi and them? is rastamen who sing rock? didnt know they were that popular :-\


Dey been around a while, they signed a deal to endorse Dean Guitars (Dimebag Darell fame) which is pretty big for a local artist... and I saw them at a Music Festival in Bethlemem PA... so they on the up and up...! Dey drummer wicked 2 bad.  ;D

went to school with the drummer and saw him in ah wedding recently. told me about the band but i not into that music.

Man, Orange Sky versatile. Might be surprised. I eh familiar wid de latest renditions ... buh I have Orange Sky from de 90s and that shit kicks  ... Chuss mih, dem men shoulda buss long time.

Forever Trini or Big Mag etc ... wasn't there some kinda disbanding or re-arrangement of de group? Whais de scene dey ... 

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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2008, 10:43:28 AM »
I caught Orange Sky's performance in Pigeon Point one year back in the 90's and they brought the house down....I was really impressed!!...
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2008, 09:23:13 AM »
EHy EHY...alyuh orange sky somewhere else nah...the sky is blue.

Doh mash up meh running thread.


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« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2008, 11:29:00 AM »
So Touches, how slow/fast yuh think yuh could run de 5K?

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« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2008, 12:41:14 PM »
Bess Thread Brethren!!!!!!

Touches ah know yuh serious about dis thread and some men really giving some good info but de truth be told, Tallman mash up dis thread with the Fatwoman and de dog post.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

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« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2008, 12:50:32 PM »
Given Touches height, weight and age.... Under 25 mins I predict, but he will not break the 20 min barrier  :devil:

Any bets???

Oh lawd touches, forgive meh nah... ah was just recomending to put on some orange sky in de Ipod Touches when yuh runnin...

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« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2008, 01:19:20 PM »
Given Touches height, weight and age.... Under 25 mins I predict, but he will not break the 20 min barrier  :devil:

Any bets???

Oh lawd touches, forgive meh nah... ah was just recomending to put on some orange sky in de Ipod Touches when yuh runnin...

Touches ent breaking ah 25 mins, far less ah 20 mins... when dat christmas ham hit him... I feel he go make ah 25 to 30 mins...
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« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2008, 01:47:50 PM »
I kinda semi serious bout this...I actually went and price a casio g-shock to time mehself round the savannah.

But Maraj kinda expensive so I will check the 1000 tick timepieces at the side of the road when I make a spin in town tom.

I have xmas party tonight and tom but I going and try and run tom morning early bout 6 and Sun afternoon.

Arghm...alyuh does drink any kinda RedBull or anything before the race or during?...any kinda supplements?

I feel a tin of red bull and some bad mind could pull meh tru.



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« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2008, 05:02:44 PM »
I kinda semi serious bout this...I actually went and price a casio g-shock to time mehself round the savannah.
But Maraj kinda expensive so I will check the 1000 tick timepieces at the side of the road when I make a spin in town tom.

I have xmas party tonight and tom but I going and try and run tom morning early bout 6 and Sun afternoon.

Arghm...alyuh does drink any kinda RedBull or anything before the race or during?...any kinda supplements?

I feel a tin of red bull and some bad mind could pull meh tru.



Touches... better yet, get somebody tuh buy ah pedometer fuh yuh and send it down, they real cheap... online, as low as $5 US.  Not only can you time yuhself, but it also measures how far you've run (once calibrated to your steps).  More advanced ones measure your heart rate and stuff like dat as you work out... but them run $20-$50 all kinda thing.

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« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2008, 09:09:52 AM »
Reality set in people.

Christmas party Fri and Saturday...is nuff ham, pastelle, turkey and the like with Johnny in between.

Yesterday I wake up late and when it was time to run....ran start to fall. I end up playing FIFA 09, then I take een a 1/2 of the Digi final (what a waste)

I want to take a run this afternoon but I hadda leave home early to reach up in Paramin tonight before the traffic hits.  :-\

I feel I need a training partner yes.




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« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2008, 09:53:30 AM »
Reality set in people.

Christmas party Fri and Saturday...is nuff ham, pastelle, turkey and the like with Johnny in between.

Yesterday I wake up late and when it was time to run....ran start to fall. I end up playing FIFA 09, then I take een a 1/2 of the Digi final (what a waste)

I want to take a run this afternoon but I hadda leave home early to reach up in Paramin tonight before the traffic hits.  :-\

I feel I need a training partner yes.




It sound like you positioning dis ting for a new years resolution

But then yuh go say kanaval get in de way  of de trainin
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« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2008, 10:21:05 AM »
I want to take a run this afternoon but I hadda leave home early to reach up in Paramin tonight before the traffic hits.  :-\
Why yuh doh run/walk up Paramin as part of yuh training.

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« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2008, 11:18:02 AM »
Yuh cyar be sweaty in the people and dem parang.  :devil:

Ah lie yuh could be sweaty...but after yuh reach...not before.

I walk about town fast today looking for Xmas gift. We go factor that in as training too.




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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2009, 11:17:35 AM »
Touches, wha vibes?

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« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2009, 11:32:45 AM »
Well,

Christmas and New Years throw some sand in meh rice...but I coming along.

I start doing a savannah at 25 min...I get that down to 19 min now (But is real effort)

But I do 2 savannah in 44 and a bit.

All the sneakers I had home....start to dry rot and fall apart. 4 pairs of nike shox and a air max 95 the flourescent green and grey hadda pitch in the dustbin....I on meh last pair of shox.

I have to go Francis and buy a sneakers but they raise the price and ting real expensive. I see a nice reebok. I see some asics and a saucony...was less than 300...they bring up the price to 700...steups.

I running a savannah today, chancellor tomorrow, football sweat wed, savannah/maraval/ hill work thurs.

I find I moving better in football sweat. I had a shin splint, knee/ankle/lower back pain era but after a few days I was good.

Diet change too....I cut out Beers, I eating porridge and cereal for breakfast and dinner and a decent lunch.

I taking some apple cider vinegar occasionally, some wheatgrass and meh regular vitamins.

I drop 5 lbs so far.

I feeling better...I go be alright for this 5k. I aiming for under 1/2 hr.


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« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2009, 12:22:07 PM »
Well,

Christmas and New Years throw some sand in meh rice...but I coming along.

I start doing a savannah at 25 min...I get that down to 19 min now (But is real effort)

But I do 2 savannah in 44 and a bit.

All the sneakers I had home....start to dry rot and fall apart. 4 pairs of nike shox and a air max 95 the flourescent green and grey hadda pitch in the dustbin....I on meh last pair of shox.

I have to go Francis and buy a sneakers but they raise the price and ting real expensive. I see a nice reebok. I see some asics and a saucony...was less than 300...they bring up the price to 700...steups.

I running a savannah today, chancellor tomorrow, football sweat wed, savannah/maraval/ hill work thurs.

I find I moving better in football sweat. I had a shin splint, knee/ankle/lower back pain era but after a few days I was good.

Diet change too....I cut out Beers, I eating porridge and cereal for breakfast and dinner and a decent lunch.

I taking some apple cider vinegar occasionally, some wheatgrass and meh regular vitamins.

I drop 5 lbs so far.

I feeling better...I go be alright for this 5k. I aiming for under 1/2 hr.

Ah feel we go hadda bring yuh in fuh testing :devil: :)

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« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2009, 01:12:32 PM »
Well,

Christmas and New Years throw some sand in meh rice...but I coming along.

I start doing a savannah at 25 min...I get that down to 19 min now (But is real effort)

But I do 2 savannah in 44 and a bit.

All the sneakers I had home....start to dry rot and fall apart. 4 pairs of nike shox and a air max 95 the flourescent green and grey hadda pitch in the dustbin....I on meh last pair of shox.

I have to go Francis and buy a sneakers but they raise the price and ting real expensive. I see a nice reebok. I see some asics and a saucony...was less than 300...they bring up the price to 700...steups.

I running a savannah today, chancellor tomorrow, football sweat wed, savannah/maraval/ hill work thurs.

I find I moving better in football sweat. I had a shin splint, knee/ankle/lower back pain era but after a few days I was good.

Diet change too....I cut out Beers, I eating porridge and cereal for breakfast and dinner and a decent lunch.

I taking some apple cider vinegar occasionally, some wheatgrass and meh regular vitamins.

I drop 5 lbs so far.

I feeling better...I go be alright for this 5k. I aiming for under 1/2 hr.

Whey... congrats fella.


Congrats on de determination... the progress... the weight loss... the change in diet... wheatgrass?  I could drink dat normal mihself, but fuh ah man to drop beers and then turn straight tuh ah health kick, nuff kudos fuh dat.

I mihself eh run in like ah month... ah need to calibrate mih Nike+ sensor fuh mih iPod all over, so ah heading to de gym to get on de treadmill in a few.  Ah only plan on putting in ah mile... maybe two, enough to get it calibrated, but later on this week ah hitting de road... cold an all.  Gym running ent my thing.

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« Reply #57 on: January 12, 2009, 01:29:28 PM »
Bakes...I cut out  :beermug:

I just switch to scotch or rum and soda.

I having a occasional vodka and cran.

Watch meh its real make a difference...yuh doh be bloated. Only thing is when yuh sweatin yuh does smell it coming tru yuh pores.

Boxing day and Christmas day I was having a time...I wake up the saturday morning and run 5:30 round the savannah. I feel ahow meh chest wasnt good...but when I finished I feel real good. Sunday I run in the afternoon after playing some tennis and I was firing on all cylinders.

Another thing i realise is that I doh feel sluggish on a morning. When I wake up I alert and bright, not moving slow slow and need time to thaw out and de-yampee etc.


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« Reply #58 on: January 12, 2009, 01:43:08 PM »

All the sneakers I had home....start to dry rot and fall apart. 4 pairs of nike shox and a air max 95 the flourescent green and grey hadda pitch in the dustbin....I on meh last pair of shox.

I have to go Francis and buy a sneakers but they raise the price and ting real expensive. I see a nice reebok. I see some asics and a saucony...was less than 300...they bring up the price to 700...steups.

I running a savannah today, chancellor tomorrow, football sweat wed, savannah/maraval/ hill work thurs.


i cyah stress more the importance of making sure you have a good running shoe if you gonna be putting that kinda strain on the joints. remember that savannah running on the hard track is a steady jarring on the knees and ankles.

i was on the same kinda heights in late 2006.. alternating car park sweat with running around the savannah during the week to avoid traffic coming home.. Then I up the ante and start running on mornings, then savannah in the evening followed by the car park sweat on tues/thurs afternoon, and sweating savannah the other days.. All this i was doing with an umbro turfs..

well after about 2 months of that then i develop this tendonitis prob called jumper's knee and cyah see meh way. and it have no surgery or cure for that, they telling yuh to build up the muscles around the knee to 'manage' it. and i only really start to pay attention recently to how that thing change my whole lifestyle... i cant get out of a car without putting both legs out first then propping on the seat like ah old man. i does come down steps at an angle, and i eh walking fully upright. i cyah squat so to pick up something is a straight leg and bend back. So i now looking to make a serious effort to resolve. All that because of the savannah thing...

Spend de extra money and invest in a good pair of running shoes and run on the inside of the track on the grass as well. Yuh will not regret it in the long run.
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« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2009, 01:56:16 PM »
Bakes...I cut out  :beermug:

I just switch to scotch or rum and soda.

I having a occasional vodka and cran.

Watch meh its real make a difference...yuh doh be bloated. Only thing is when yuh sweatin yuh does smell it coming tru yuh pores.

Boxing day and Christmas day I was having a time...I wake up the saturday morning and run 5:30 round the savannah. I feel ahow meh chest wasnt good...but when I finished I feel real good. Sunday I run in the afternoon after playing some tennis and I was firing on all cylinders.

Another thing i realise is that I doh feel sluggish on a morning. When I wake up I alert and bright, not moving slow slow and need time to thaw out and de-yampee etc.


Exercise does jumpstart yuh metabolism... so no surprise that after yuh run yuh does feel so alert and thing.  As fuh de 'bloated feeling'... yuh think de term "empty calories" is joke or what? lol

I eh no drinker mihself so cutting out alcolhol was never ah issue fuh me... the biggest thing is getting motivated.  I'z ah man grow up on ah basketball court and all thru college was ballin' 4-5 days a week 3 hrs at a clip, full court, non-stop.  I used to get away with that... but nowadays I ent have that amount ah free time so dai'z why ah start de road running... but I eh go lie... motivation tuh run does be lacking sometimes. 

Seems like you dun getting over that though, which is key.  If I was you I'd do a google search for "marathon training" or "5k training" or something... they usually have running programs telling you at what rate you should be progressing or what goals you should be shooting for etc.  You might also want to start a running log to track not just your increased distances, reduced times etc.... but also your weight loss... to better help motivate you.

 

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