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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3630 on: January 19, 2013, 12:32:21 AM »
Sorry missed last week.  A decent performance and 3 points against a West Ham that didnt turn up.  Then back to a very poor performance against Bolton in the Cup, which seems to have upset Mon a bit.  2 signings so far 1 loan N'Daiye and Magane with a couple of more muted.

Today its Wigan away KO 3.00 dont know what will happen tbh.  Hope you have a nice weekend

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3631 on: January 21, 2013, 02:23:17 PM »
3 points 1 good half 1 poor half and a 2 week break.  Talk about possibly getting Zarate on loan maybe just agents drumming up business

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3632 on: January 29, 2013, 10:19:45 AM »
Sunderland v Swansea tonight.

Haven't a clue what will happen.  N'Diaye looked OK but tired badly towards end of Wigan game, still have a few injuries and not done enough in the window, hope to see at least 2 more new faces before Friday.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3633 on: February 02, 2013, 06:58:53 AM »
The Swansea game was awful lucky to get away with a point.

Reading away today who have been doing well lately so just have to see what happens.

Ended up signing Graham so still didn't do enough hope its enough to see the season out.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3634 on: February 09, 2013, 02:37:48 AM »
For Reading read Swansea.

Arsenal today, suspect an improved performance, but more of the same, as for the result not a clue although my expectations are low.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3635 on: February 23, 2013, 02:19:48 AM »
Arsenal game was better but toothless really.

West Brom away today not a clue, still busy elsewhere hence short and sweet.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3636 on: February 24, 2013, 01:37:03 AM »
2 average teams, penalty (given for handball, one of those that sometimes given sometimes not, but fair enough imho) and rebound off the keeper, missed a sitter at the end, still a drudge and still not safe.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3637 on: March 02, 2013, 02:01:10 AM »
Fulham at home today, Fulham are not great away from home (understatement) but still haven't a clue at the likely outcome, although have played better lately.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3638 on: March 09, 2013, 06:58:31 AM »
Draw with Fulham after gifting 2 goals again.

QPR away today, an important match as need to keep the gap, what will happen is anybodies guess.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3639 on: March 17, 2013, 02:15:21 AM »
Poor defence again last week, although good strikes far too easy.

Norwich at home today @ 1.30, if don't get anything it really is twitchy bum time  ;D can't honestly say which way it will go.  Repetitive but unfortunately true.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3640 on: March 18, 2013, 01:06:03 AM »
Poor defence again last week, although good strikes far too easy.

Norwich at home today @ 1.30, if don't get anything it really is twitchy bum time  ;D can't honestly say which way it will go.  Repetitive but unfortunately true.

Sunderland got lucky three times in this game! Maybe they will stay up after all.

Even since Norwich entered the Premier league (with that magical run up the leagues) they are one of two small clubs that I look at with some favor.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3641 on: March 18, 2013, 11:48:31 AM »
Sunderland got lucky three times in this game! Maybe they will stay up after all.

Even since Norwich entered the Premier league (with that magical run up the leagues) they are one of two small clubs that I look at with some favor.


"Lucky"... that's one way of describing it.  Chris Foy had as poor a day as any Premier League official in a very long time.  This is Rob Stiles, Graham Poll territory here.  Shockingly poor performance by him and the near side assistant.

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« Reply #3642 on: March 19, 2013, 02:43:52 AM »
I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us.  FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.

It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer.  It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are.  ;D

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« Reply #3643 on: March 19, 2013, 09:48:51 AM »
I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us.  FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.

It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer.  It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are.  ;D

All of this sounds a lot like excuse making.  If there was any contact on Bunn's "hand" it was his arm pit.  Foy was so sure about his wrong decision that he never even consulted the assistant.  As for the assistant... he's the same dunce who called Bassong for the handball when the ball rolled off his chest and maybe... maybe, then onto his arm.  The player was running... kinda hard to run and not move your arms, no?  As for the Norwich penalty that wasn't given... the linesman had (or should have had) a clear view of Rose's left foot landing six inches inside the box.  Not that hard to spot from his perspective, there's a reason why the line is white and the grass green.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3644 on: March 19, 2013, 10:10:14 AM »
I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us.  FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.

It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer.  It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are.  ;D

All of this sounds a lot like excuse making.  If there was any contact on Bunn's "hand" it was his arm pit.  Foy was so sure about his wrong decision that he never even consulted the assistant.  As for the assistant... he's the same dunce who called Bassong for the handball when the ball rolled off his chest and maybe... maybe, then onto his arm.  The player was running... kinda hard to run and not move your arms, no?  As for the Norwich penalty that wasn't given... the linesman had (or should have had) a clear view of Rose's left foot landing six inches inside the box.  Not that hard to spot from his perspective, there's a reason why the line is white and the grass green.
Ain't no maybe in the Bassong incident. The ball rolled down his arm clearly. The only question is one of intent. I think it was the wrong call too, but not because the handling didn't happen.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3645 on: March 19, 2013, 11:07:48 AM »
Ain't no maybe in the Bassong incident. The ball rolled down his arm clearly. The only question is one of intent. I think it was the wrong call too, but not because the handling didn't happen.

The ball was rolling laterally across his chest so it couldn't roll down his arm, if anything it may have rolled off his bicep.  People does also get tie up with the "intent" thing.  The player doesn't have to intentionally handle the ball (although that's what the rule should be).  Instead FIFA in their infinite lack of wisdom rule that the player must make an "intentional" movement with his arm... whether to handle the ball or not.  So even if you waving at somebody in the stands (exaggerated example) and the ball hit your hand... that by the book is what they interpreted as a hand ball.  Micah Richards slides to block a shot on the ground in the box and his hands instinctively go up... ball deflects of his thigh and onto his hands... handball, penalty.  Harsh, stupid interpretation. 

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« Reply #3646 on: March 20, 2013, 02:14:58 PM »
I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us.  FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.

It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer.  It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are.  ;D

All of this sounds a lot like excuse making.  If there was any contact on Bunn's "hand" it was his arm pit.  Foy was so sure about his wrong decision that he never even consulted the assistant.  As for the assistant... he's the same dunce who called Bassong for the handball when the ball rolled off his chest and maybe... maybe, then onto his arm.  The player was running... kinda hard to run and not move your arms, no?  As for the Norwich penalty that wasn't given... the linesman had (or should have had) a clear view of Rose's left foot landing six inches inside the box.  Not that hard to spot from his perspective, there's a reason why the line is white and the grass green.

Not making any excuses, the ball hit the underarm of the keeper the ref was head on so from his angle he would look like handball especially as he had his arms up,  most refs don't consult with their assistants if they feel they have made the right decision.

AS for the penalty it clearly hit his arm which was outstretched so as DM says its all about intent. 

The Rose incident was a penalty but again he was in the air and from a side view that the linesman had it would be hard for him to tell whether it was a penalty or not.  Not an excuse just an observation. 

A lot of fans are very black and white about officials being right or wrong after seeing many replays and slow motion, on many occasions on here I have said the decisions were wrong but understand how the refs could give them / not give them, they only get one shot at real time and have to make the decision, I don't mind the understandable ones I hate the blatant ones, but it will continue to happen, indeed it happened in both the Everton and Wigan games with handballs at the weekend

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3647 on: March 20, 2013, 04:38:49 PM »
Not making any excuses, the ball hit the underarm of the keeper the ref was head on so from his angle he would look like handball especially as he had his arms up,  most refs don't consult with their assistants if they feel they have made the right decision.

AS for the penalty it clearly hit his arm which was outstretched so as DM says its all about intent. 

The Rose incident was a penalty but again he was in the air and from a side view that the linesman had it would be hard for him to tell whether it was a penalty or not.  Not an excuse just an observation. 

A lot of fans are very black and white about officials being right or wrong after seeing many replays and slow motion, on many occasions on here I have said the decisions were wrong but understand how the refs could give them / not give them, they only get one shot at real time and have to make the decision, I don't mind the understandable ones I hate the blatant ones, but it will continue to happen, indeed it happened in both the Everton and Wigan games with handballs at the weekend

Well no sense going back and forth... the calls were clear to me, but objectively-speaking, close enough to generate debate.  So we can agree to disagree  :beermug:

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3648 on: March 30, 2013, 01:05:26 AM »
Manu today @ 12.45 so an easy game then  ;D

Very squeaky bum time now as Fletcher is out for the rest of the season having damaged his ankle playing for Scotland, not a good thing for a team that doesn't really look like scoring.

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Martin O'Neill: Sunderland 'part company' with manager
« Reply #3649 on: March 30, 2013, 03:49:31 PM »
Martin O'Neill: Sunderland 'part company' with manager
BBC Sport


Relegation-threatened Sunderland have announced they have "parted company"  with manager Martin O'Neill.

The Black Cats currently sit one point above the Premier League relegation zone with seven games to play after the 1-0 defeat by Manchester United.

That result extended their winless spell to eight games.

A successor to O'Neill, who joined the club in 2011, "will be made in the coming days" the club added.

More to follow.
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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3650 on: March 30, 2013, 04:00:37 PM »
Wtf?  ???

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3651 on: March 30, 2013, 04:23:25 PM »
 A surprising but understandable move by the board; a good manager but it is not working. 

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3652 on: March 30, 2013, 10:40:05 PM »
Damn good manager.

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« Reply #3653 on: March 31, 2013, 08:45:15 AM »
Damn good manager.

Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.

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« Reply #3654 on: March 31, 2013, 11:14:30 AM »
Damn good manager.

Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.

Not really
Wycombe 5 years
Norwich Months
Leciester 5 years
Celtic 5 Years

Down to simply not enough change in the players, didn't take the opportunity to improve it by the required amount in January, whether him or money.  Owner has seen has hit panic button.  I wasn't happy but would of liked to seen him given the summer, has one of the best records.

Paulo Di Canio is on his way for talks, it basically sums it up how little Short understands the game. 

As for the game it showed exactly where we have been lacking too slow in thought and deed by a mile.
Villa 4 years

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« Reply #3655 on: March 31, 2013, 12:50:25 PM »
Damn good manager.

Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.

Not really
Wycombe 5 years
Norwich Months
Leciester 5 years
Celtic 5 Years

Down to simply not enough change in the players, didn't take the opportunity to improve it by the required amount in January, whether him or money.  Owner has seen has hit panic button.  I wasn't happy but would of liked to seen him given the summer, has one of the best records.

Paulo Di Canio is on his way for talks, it basically sums it up how little Short understands the game. 

As for the game it showed exactly where we have been lacking too slow in thought and deed by a mile.
Villa 4 years

Why does he always leave after 5 or 4 years? IMO David Moyes is a better manager who season after season continues to produce teams on a smaller budget, that play attractive football and compete in matches consistently. O'Neil seems tuh have problems motivating his players, and himself after a while of being in the job and ends up leaving before he gets fired. And the usual excuse is he didn't get money to buy more players. 

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« Reply #3656 on: March 31, 2013, 12:57:54 PM »
Damn good manager.

Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.

Absolute nonsense.

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« Reply #3657 on: March 31, 2013, 01:17:49 PM »
Damn good manager.

Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.

Absolute nonsense.

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Re: Sunderland Forever Thread.
« Reply #3658 on: March 31, 2013, 02:43:56 PM »
The average time for a manager in the prem is less than 2 years at a club, I think that what has been said before.  That includes long stays for Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes.  MON has a history of his 1st full season being his worse then it tends to improve.  The fact he has had relatively few jobs speaks volumes.  Anyway its done so no point in going on about it.

Di Canio has been confirmed http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/march/new-head-coach-confirmed
Its a strange one but I don't think there will be a dull moment  for however long it lasts, I suspect not too long.

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« Reply #3659 on: March 31, 2013, 02:58:47 PM »
The average time for a manager in the prem is less than 2 years at a club, I think that what has been said before.  That includes long stays for Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes.  MON has a history of his 1st full season being his worse then it tends to improve.  The fact he has had relatively few jobs speaks volumes.  Anyway its done so no point in going on about it.

Di Canio has been confirmed http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/march/new-head-coach-confirmed
Its a strange one but I don't think there will be a dull moment  for however long it lasts, I suspect not too long.
Kev it looks like yuhs guy will be traveling to darby and wolves next season.   :rotfl:

what all those loud mouths like captain fishpaste and the other KJ haters like major major with the "dog with a balloon" comments, what they wouldn't give to have mr greedy money bags (bent) and dog with ah ballon (KJ) back @ sunderland for the remaining seven games.

the old folks had a saying,  "never damn the bridge that you crossed, for God know you might need to cross it again". hoping that yuhs guys survive, stoke and sunderland both, but would love to see villa and wigan take the tumble though.    :rotfl: :rotfl:
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