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Title: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on March 31, 2010, 10:50:36 AM
Let the Voting Begin  :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 31, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
But dias jus me  :o :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on March 31, 2010, 10:56:45 AM
is kicks to see who the first few pick...!  :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on March 31, 2010, 11:05:14 AM
should put abstain, I seriously considering dat....................unless it have ah new type ah revolutionary dat would take over, set tings right, an den return d country to democracy...............sadly there has never really been one ah those.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 31, 2010, 01:24:34 PM
Yuh need a category for none....."other" doh count....
Title: Re: Racial division by agenda
Post by: truetrini on March 31, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Group accuses Manning of discrimination
Saturday, August 1st 2009

The Indo Trinbago Equality Council (ITEC) has accused Prime Minister Patrick Manning of discriminating against the East Indian population in this country.

The Council's chairman, Devant Maharaj, in a statement issued yesterday charged that Manning was practising discrimination because over the years he has been noticeably absent at many of the activities commemorating East Indian Arrival Day but has been making his presence felt at those activities commemorating Emancipation Day, which is being celebrated today.

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"Mr Manning is very visible during Emancipation Day celebrations. Dressed in appropriate African attire, he endorses Emancipation Day celebrations. This sends a positive signal to corporate and State sponsors and redounds to the benefit of the Afro Trini community. For this we are happy, we are, however ,saddened by the converse absence of PM Manning at Indian Arrival Day celebrations. Maharaj said days before the Indian Arrival Day 2009 celebrations, his organisation wrote Prime Minister Manning to express its concern about his absence at Indian Arrival Day activities and "it was hoped that ITEC's recommendation that the Honourable Prime Minister begin attending Indian Arrival Day be addressed, however the Honourable Prime Minister ignored not only our recommendation but also once again Arrival Day celebrations."
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Prime Minister Manning in traditional East Indian clothing at an Indian Arrival celebration.

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Maharaj said that with allegations of "ethnic cleansing" rife in the air along with many court cases of inequality of treatment against Indians "the Prime Minister appearance at only Emancipation Day celebrations entrenches the already strong perception that the Manning administration has an unwritten ethnic policy that is anti-Indian."


It look like Devant's Memory failing???
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on March 31, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
I agree with Browning. Other doh count, put NONE!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2010, 07:58:16 PM
should put abstain, I seriously considering dat....................unless it have ah new type ah revolutionary dat would take over, set tings right, an den return d country to democracy...............sadly there has never really been one ah those.
The only way that could happen is if the military declared marshall law and suspend the govt. and that would be an extremely bad idea in the long run, reasons?

first off, all the foreign investors would more than likely pull out of their ivestments. the progress we made from the summit and all our endeavors be become ah financial hub and a convention haven like dubai and singapore would blow up in our face.

our industries would suffer, as well as tourism.          any more bright ideas?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on March 31, 2010, 08:56:46 PM
should put abstain, I seriously considering dat....................unless it have ah new type ah revolutionary dat would take over, set tings right, an den return d country to democracy...............sadly there has never really been one ah those.
The only way that could happen is if the military declared marshall law and suspend the govt. and that would be an extremely bad idea in the long run, reasons?

first off, all the foreign investors would more than likely pull out of their ivestments. the progress we made from the summit and all our endeavors be become ah financial hub and a convention haven like dubai and singapore would blow up in our face.

our industries would suffer, as well as tourism.          any more bright ideas?

well we are well aware of these things, I stated that.....err though be it abstractly, especially since our "democracy" is a rotating quasi dictatorship, an d culture of maximum leadership well an truly seasoned in we blood, I highly doubt d military will want to give power back much less be in position to set things "right"

as said before a "neeeeeeewwwwwwww typpe of revolutionary" as in dat species doh exist...........especially here
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: che on March 31, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
Njac still exist ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on April 01, 2010, 05:22:22 AM
Njac still exist ?

But aye, aye...how yuh mean?? Dem was marching up and down the place the other day against Calder Hart & UDeCOTT......yuh just farse.... :devil: ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Pointman on April 03, 2010, 09:12:20 PM
for Obama again oui ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 09:21:30 PM
soo i see UNC winning in the polls  :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on April 04, 2010, 09:55:07 AM
I find Daft Trini discriminating......where the "none ah dem category" ??    >:(


And who vote for other??   :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: mukumsplau on April 04, 2010, 10:10:39 AM
soo i see UNC winning in the polls  :devil:

da mightnt b such a good thing...but it seemin likely
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on April 04, 2010, 07:09:06 PM
many can come up with or narrow the conclusions as to the results
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on April 05, 2010, 01:11:48 PM
I find Daft Trini discriminating......where the "none ah dem category" ??    >:(


And who vote for other??   :devil:

NONE OF THE ABOVE IS D BEST OPTION AT THE MOMENT. But PNM and UNC in we face so God help us.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on April 05, 2010, 06:21:57 PM
If it is truth, I wonder what Panday's new party will be called.
Another split for the UNC....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on April 06, 2010, 06:49:50 AM
If it is truth, I wonder what Panday's new party will be called.
Another split for the UNC....

PPP- Panday's Political Party :o
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: 1-868 on April 06, 2010, 07:49:39 AM
PNM till ah dead :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 06, 2010, 09:12:14 AM
If it is truth, I wonder what Panday's new party will be called.
Another split for the UNC....

Where are you getting your info from ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on April 06, 2010, 11:29:47 AM
If it is truth, I wonder what Panday's new party will be called.
Another split for the UNC....

Where are you getting your info from ?

One of the newspapers from lsome time ago deary.
Hinting of forming a new party.

When I get home later, I'll get the link. But I swear it was posted in another thread...


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Panday to form his own party
Kimberly Mackhan
Published: 17 Feb 2010
Kimberly Mackhan

Attorney Ricky Harnanan has been mandated to pinpoint the requirements that Basdeo Panday would need to form another political party, and maintain his position as Leader of the Opposition, according to a well-placed informant.

“Ricky has been asked to prepare a constitution (for Panday’s proposed party) for consideration, in consultation with Ramesh Maharaj, and the discussions with Ramesh have been spearheaded by Kelvin (Ramnath),” said the informant, who was close to Panday. “It includes Ramesh being made chief whip and deputy political leader and political leader-in-waiting (of Panday’s new party).” The informant said that Panday was holding on to his strength of Opposition UNC Members of Parliament (MPs)—his daughter Mikela, brother Subhas, Kelvin Ramnath, Ramesh Maharaj, Vasant Bharath, Dr Hamza Rafeeq and Dr Tim Gopeesingh—to prevent his rival, Kamla Persad-Bissessar, from removing and replacing him as Opposition Leader. Persad-Bissessar, who defeated Panday to become political leader of the Opposition United National Congress (UNC), indicated last week that she needed the written support of one more Opposition MP for President George Maxwell Richards to appoint her to the post of Opposition Leader.
Read the rest http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/02/17/panday-form-his-own-party


Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 06, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
^^ I posted that article in this "general Election thread" but that to me seem like after internal election backlash to sit on the backbench..., noticed its dated february 17th...since Manning annouce general elections fuh this year and since kamla started her campaign (even choosing candidates) I am yet to hear of a Panday new party..maybe his new party would come but i wont be surprised if it does does not come..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 06, 2010, 11:47:27 AM
^^ I posted that article in this "general Election thread" but that to me seem like after internal election backlash to sit on the backbench..., noticed its dated february 17th...since Manning annouce general elections fuh this year and since kamla started her campaign (even choosing candidates) I am yet to hear of a Panday new party..maybe his new party would come but i wont be surprised if it does does not come..
Dais because yuh reading selectively.  He jes say that others may want to form a new party..he gave the hint fella, jes 3 days ago.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 06, 2010, 11:49:44 AM
^^ I posted that article in this "general Election thread" but that to me seem like after internal election backlash to sit on the backbench..., noticed its dated february 17th...since Manning annouce general elections fuh this year and since kamla started her campaign (even choosing candidates) I am yet to hear of a Panday new party..maybe his new party would come but i wont be surprised if it does does not come..
Dais because yuh reading selectively.  He jes say that others may want to form a new party..he gave the hint fella, jes 3 days ago.

so why dont you post a link so we can all read ..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 06, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
Because your eye does only see anti government, and not balanced, leh meh help yuh pout..in fact yuh eye seeing like manning 20/20/..all over de place

Look:

Bas sees new party coming
Richard Lord
Published: 3 Apr 2010

Basdeo Panday
Richard Lord

Former Opposition Leader Basdeo Panday says a new political party may be formed in T&T. Panday made the statement during a brief interview yesterday. Asked to comment on the state of affairs within the Opposition United National Congress (UNC) and moves to achieve opposition unity, Panday said: “If they (party leaders) continue to be spiteful and agonise enough people, maybe they (the agonised) would form a new political party, which would defeat the entire process of unity.”

Asked if he was expected to play any role in that exercise, Panday quickly responded: “No, no, no. I now have the time to do a lot of the things I always wanted to do and I am enjoying my life.” Panday said he was studying literature, listening to music and reading books. He said he has resumed work on his autobiography. He said any attempt to achieve opposition unity would be unsuccessful if the leaders could not genuinely come together. He said there must be meaningful discussions among the leaders if the opposition has to engage the ruling People’s National Movement (PNM) in a one-on-one election battle.

And Panday has welcomed the move by the Government to lay the controversial, unsanitised report of the Uff Commission of Enquiry into the Construction Sector and the Urban Development Corporation of T&T (Udecott) in the Senate. “It was the right thing to do,” Panday added. He said, however, that there was the real danger of libelling innocent people by tabling the document in the Parliament. But he quickly countered saying that most of the people interviewed and named in the report would have been cross-examined in the commission hearings before chairman Prof John Uff. (RL)

http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/04/03/bas-sees-new-party-coming
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 06, 2010, 03:42:39 PM
If it is truth, I wonder what Panday's new party will be called.
Another split for the UNC....



Because your eye does only see anti government, and not balanced, leh meh help yuh pout..in fact yuh eye seeing like manning 20/20/..all over de place

Look:

Bas sees new party coming
Richard Lord
Published: 3 Apr 2010

Basdeo Panday
Richard Lord

Former Opposition Leader Basdeo Panday says a new political party may be formed in T&T. Panday made the statement during a brief interview yesterday. Asked to comment on the state of affairs within the Opposition United National Congress (UNC) and moves to achieve opposition unity, Panday said: “If they (party leaders) continue to be spiteful and agonise enough people, maybe they (the agonised) would form a new political party, which would defeat the entire process of unity.”
Asked if he was expected to play any role in that exercise, Panday quickly responded: “No, no, no. I now have the time to do a lot of the things I always wanted to do and I am enjoying my life.” Panday said he was studying literature, listening to music and reading books. He said he has resumed work on his autobiography. He said any attempt to achieve opposition unity would be unsuccessful if the leaders could not genuinely come together. He said there must be meaningful discussions among the leaders if the opposition has to engage the ruling People’s National Movement (PNM) in a one-on-one election battle.

And Panday has welcomed the move by the Government to lay the controversial, unsanitised report of the Uff Commission of Enquiry into the Construction Sector and the Urban Development Corporation of T&T (Udecott) in the Senate. “It was the right thing to do,” Panday added. He said, however, that there was the real danger of libelling innocent people by tabling the document in the Parliament. But he quickly countered saying that most of the people interviewed and named in the report would have been cross-examined in the commission hearings before chairman Prof John Uff. (RL)

http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/04/03/bas-sees-new-party-coming



So how does this article confirms Prematee Bheem earlier post, or your previous post ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 06, 2010, 04:28:47 PM
steups, yuh is ah beh beh or wah?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 06, 2010, 10:09:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3MF2rs8HwA


A gentle reminder from Rowley!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 06, 2010, 10:12:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TUIGjPCICQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Panday and his cronies stepping up the push for a new party.
Post by: truetrini on April 07, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
Ronald Bhola: CAUCUS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF DEMOCRACY COUVA SOUTH. Come and join us at a meeting of the caucus for the preservation of democracy in the UNC on Thursday April 8th @ 5:00pm at the Couva South Constituency conference room. Present will be Mr. Basdeo Panday, Ramesh L Maharaj, Kelv...in Ramnath, Mickela Panday and other MP's and activists. Kelvin Ramnath MP
Title: Re: Panday and his cronies stepping up the push for a new party.
Post by: Brownsugar on April 08, 2010, 05:25:02 AM
Ronald Bhola: CAUCUS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF DEMOCRACY COUVA SOUTH. Come and join us at a meeting of the caucus for the preservation of democracy in the UNC on Thursday April 8th @ 5:00pm at the Couva South Constituency conference room. Present will be Mr. Basdeo Panday, Ramesh L Maharaj, Kelv...in Ramnath, Mickela Panday and other MP's and activists. Kelvin Ramnath MP

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
other MP's like who??.... ??? ???

Well yes, Patrick yuh could always count on yuh boy Bas to screw up things.....look let me go and buy out shares in the Orville Redenbacker popcorn company.....the supermarkets eh goh have enough popcorn for this upcoming mother of all silly seasons... ::) ::)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on April 08, 2010, 05:30:32 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on April 08, 2010, 05:41:10 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:

coolie people real stupid yes. I feel it could only be a race issue that people wanna stick with panday, likewise pnm. PNM may not be a racist party as per say, but the people who suffer/support them most, and get nothing in return, could only be voting them because is a black man in charge.
What was the reason Kamal Mohammed was side stepped again?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on April 08, 2010, 05:54:14 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:

coolie people real stupid yes. I feel it could only be a race issue that people wanna stick with panday, likewise pnm. PNM may not be a racist party as per say, but the people who suffer/support them most, and get nothing in return, could only be voting them because is a black man in charge.
What was the reason Kamal Mohammed was side stepped again?

Because was an old tief d health sector neva recover from all what did tief when he was Min of Health
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 08, 2010, 05:57:11 AM
Marlene booed outside Balisier House/ Kimberly Mackhan ... Port-of-Spain South MP Marlene McDonald received loud and persistent booing from one long-standing People’s National Movement (PNM) supporter Christine “Twiggy” Levia after being screened to recontest her seat.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on April 08, 2010, 06:18:31 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:

coolie people real stupid yes. I feel it could only be a race issue that people wanna stick with panday, likewise pnm. PNM may not be a racist party as per say, but the people who suffer/support them most, and get nothing in return, could only be voting them because is a black man in charge.
What was the reason Kamal Mohammed was side stepped again?

It was a know fact that Mahabir and Mohammed was side stepped by Clarke to lead the country because they were indians ??? Think again they were greedy and dirty politicians also  ;)... but this is 2010, I feel Indians in trinidad because of the general family structure, knitted to their culture, dedication to higher education and thriftiness have a larger fighting chance than the average black man in trinidad... look how far they have come so why the need to form an equality organization...?

The year was 1930, Literacy in Trinidad stood at a 57 % balanced between men and women; among Indians it stood a pathetic 23 % and among Indian women @ 13 %. Only christian converts had average levels of literacy, thanks to a Canadian Presbyterian Mission which had the aim of "Christianizing and Educating" the indians of Trinidad. In popular legend in the 1930's indians were depicted as poor, mean, rural, heathen, aggressive, ethnically exclusive abd illiterate.... Handbook of Trinidad and Tobago

Indians gave absolutely little support for Dr Williams, who had despised many of them for this. Which was only giving him punitive political support against the British Commission in TnT. It was from here and his need to secure himself in politics that the country was seen as politically divided. In 1961 Dr Williams enacted the Representation of the People Bill which gave many afro Caribbean settlers to trinidad the right to vote (they were aptly rewarded and they have remained a main stay for PNM support till the present day). This was seen as a betrayal by the Panday and the Workers and Farmers Party who felt isolated by the political process. It was here the actor cum law student/politician was able to inject his venom into the minds of the indian masses... since then his political career has been kept alive hinging on race politricks...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on April 08, 2010, 06:19:58 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:

coolie people real stupid yes. I feel it could only be a race issue that people wanna stick with panday, likewise pnm. PNM may not be a racist party as per say, but the people who suffer/support them most, and get nothing in return, could only be voting them because is a black man in charge.
What was the reason Kamal Mohammed was side stepped again?

Because was an old tief d health sector neva recover from all what did tief when he was Min of Health

From what I heard... this is true and Ellis took into consideration if his hands was dirty with a little of TnT's money... what if he had... all?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on April 08, 2010, 06:35:51 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on April 08, 2010, 06:47:47 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

NAR D ONLY PARTY I EVER VOTED 4 AND DID NOT FEEL SICK AFTER.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on April 08, 2010, 06:50:25 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: ribbit on April 08, 2010, 08:05:11 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

true dat.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on April 08, 2010, 08:43:35 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:

coolie people real stupid yes. I feel it could only be a race issue that people wanna stick with panday, likewise pnm. PNM may not be a racist party as per say, but the people who suffer/support them most, and get nothing in return, could only be voting them because is a black man in charge.
What was the reason Kamal Mohammed was side stepped again?
Sammy, yuh right about the sufferers voting and not getting any benefits thereoff , that is very true TODAY, but yesteryear that was ah whole different story, as for voting BC iz black man in charge, ah think yuh might be exaggerating.

my great aunt was ah carib woman from arima, as ah matter of fact, my grandmother and her whole klan was carib and spanish mixed, those ppl were as poor as they come, but loved the pmn like is ah party send from god, and rightfully so.

the pmn took these ppl away from colonial deprivation, and gave them ah sense of independence, which included, affordable housing, instead of sharing ah barrack yard with tons of ppl and 1800s amenities like latrines and ah stand pipe to take showers,

they finally had running water in their homes and no longer had to suffer the effects of livin in ah tenement, they also had ah more dignified way to earn ah livin without having to scrub white ppl floors and clean up dog sh!t after their dogs.

back then, the PMN was the ppl's party. it had chinese supporters, indian supporters (northerners that is), syrian, black, mixed, and strong carib & spanish supporters.  that's BC these ppl knew what it was like tuh suffer the ills of colonialism, and the PNM delivered them from that existence.

so yuh have tuh understand why uptil now, grass roots ppl in the north and in the east west corridor despite their less than rosy economic position are still supportive of the PNM. i would like to think it's out of indebtedness rather than conscious support. i'm not condoning it, but rather stating the obvious.

 it was our first party, and our parents and grand parents brought us up in that environment tuh love the PNM, and God forbid if we ever decide tuh diss the programm and bad talk the PNM? that was never tolerated, and had to be done in their absence, back then, that was on ah level as disrespecting divinity.

i will agree that in earlier times indian ppl were severely disrespected and scorned, not only by blacks, but french creoles, mix race ppl, some chinese and in some instance whites, but this was also a two way street, indians also showed disdain for other ethnic groups, particularly africans.,

 believe it or not sammy, this was designed by the british tuh keep the masses from forming an alliance against them, so they divided the masses with heavy propaganda concerning each other. they did it in south africa, uganda, in india before it was separated into other 3 countries, guyana, and indo china.

i believe if we were governed by the yanks, africans and indians would have ah better more amicable relationship in TNT! these former bastard colonial masters made mayhem amongst many differant ethnic groups where ever they were. just look @ israel.

as sad as it maybe sammy, i think it will take ah few hundred yrs for this venom to leave our system, the shyte has deep roots compounded by british colonial intelligence
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 08, 2010, 09:45:23 AM
Ah... why why.... Ah hearing Bas getting support from the Indo Equality what ever organization... I did not know there was Jim Crow laws ever in TnT and I fancy myself as a part time historian.... :beermug:

coolie people real stupid yes. I feel it could only be a race issue that people wanna stick with panday, likewise pnm. PNM may not be a racist party as per say, but the people who suffer/support them most, and get nothing in return, could only be voting them because is a black man in charge.
What was the reason Kamal Mohammed was side stepped again?

fuh real..at the end of the day Trinidadians will get nothing in return...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on April 08, 2010, 10:28:22 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.
Sammy, ah think yuh giving black ppl too much credit! :rotfl: :rotfl: bredder, if yuh know anything about PNM and their strong hold, then you would know there's nowhere that is comparable to lakooharp (the harp), desperle cresent laventille and basilon street!!

these ppl don't allow outsiders tuh come in and dictate for them, but wait, have you ever heard of ramjit samarroo? well he's the musical arranger for renegades steel orchestra. jit as he's affectionately called is like a lord in the harp, and EDR, the young and the old know and love jit, patrick penco captained renegades from1984 - 1991 was also of east indian decent/ dougla, but more indian than anything.

mr and mrs singh had ah vegetable palour smack in the middle of basilon street, and the singhs were like family, they've been there way before me, some 30 something yrs. every body loved and appreciated the singhs, and if mr singh decided tuh run for office in that constituency, he most likely would've won by ah huge margin.

MR sammarro was also another piller in the community,he had ah variety store smack on observatory street, ppl in the community used tuh call him "the boss", he had nuff nuff say in the community and was like ah father figure. him and DR RAT was very close and he would often advise him on business matters.

the fella who made rudolph charles pan casket was an indian fella name ish, i was present when he welded it on laventille rd right off desperle cresent and ovid alley. ish was no slouch and ah real cool bredder.

the point ah trying tuh make is, yuh need tuh spend some time in this community(EDR, pos) tuh know that we never suffered from that sickness. when i was growing up in EDR , we had working class whites, indians, chinese, french creoles,spanish, dougla just every race living real real fackin cool wid each other and all PNM supporters!

it didn't have no black or indian neighborhoods, every body just live together in peace. ah bet yuh didn't know it have ah high concentration of indains up in gonzales bordering belmont bellau rd? they keep all the indian festivals and holydays, the weddings hindu and muslim alike, it was ah real cool scene.

it's only when i was old enough to travel around the country as ah young fella and visit other rural communities, did i realize, "WAIT!" "trinidad is really ah divided country along racial lines boy?"  i'm pretty sure  it's Bc of the way i was raised in POS, and what i saw as ah yute had me naive about this reality.

tuh tell yuh the truth, nothing prepared me for this, especially living in and around EDR , belmont, and wood brook.. but sammy, i believe the PNM woulda never had ah problem wid an indian PM, well @ least not town ppl. can't speak for the rest of trinidad though.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on April 08, 2010, 11:02:23 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.
Sammy, ah think yuh giving black ppl too much credit! :rotfl: :rotfl: bredder, if yuh know anything about PNM and their strong hold, then you would know there's nowhere that is comparable to lakooharp (the harp), desperle cresent laventille and basilon street!!

these ppl don't allow outsiders tuh come in and dictate for them, but wait, have you ever heard of ramjit samarroo? well he's the musical arranger for renegades steel orchestra. jit as he's affectionately called is like a lord in the harp, and EDR, the young and the old know and love jit, patrick penco captained renegades from1984 - 1991 was also of east indian decent/ dougla, but more indian than anything.

mr and mrs singh had ah vegetable palour smack in the middle of basilon street, and the singhs were like family, they've been there way before me, some 30 something yrs. every body loved and appreciated the singhs, and if mr singh decided tuh run for office in that constituency, he most likely would've won by ah huge margin.

MR sammarro was also another piller in the community,he had ah variety store smack on observatory street, ppl in the community used tuh call him "the boss", he had nuff nuff say in the community and was like ah father figure. him and DR RAT was very close and he would often advise him on business matters.

the fella who made rudolph charles pan casket was an indian fella name ish, i was present when he welded it on laventille rd right off desperle cresent and ovid alley. ish was no slouch and ah real cool bredder.

the point ah trying tuh make is, yuh need tuh spend some time in this community(EDR, pos) tuh know that we never suffered from that sickness. when i was growing up in EDR , we had working class whites, indians, chinese, french creoles,spanish, dougla just every race living real real fackin cool wid each other and all PNM supporters!

it didn't have no black or indian neighborhoods, every body just live together in peace. ah bet yuh didn't know it have ah high concentration of indains up in gonzales bordering belmont bellau rd? they keep all the indian festivals and holydays, the weddings hindu and muslim alike, it was ah real cool scene.

it's only when i was old enough to travel around the country as ah young fella and visit other rural communities, did i realize, "WAIT!" "trinidad is really ah divided country along racial lines boy?"  i'm pretty sure  it's Bc of the way i was raised in POS, and what i saw as ah yute had me naive about this reality.

tuh tell yuh the truth, nothing prepared me for this, especially living in and around EDR , belmont, and wood brook.. but sammy, i believe the PNM woulda never had ah problem wid an indian PM, well @ least not town ppl. can't speak for the rest of trinidad though.

some good talk there from jc, the edr is different than other parts of the nation, alot of people on a scene in other areas and have a racial way of conducting themselves. if your from the ghetto, it didnt matter what colour you were, you were all the same, treated the same.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Andre on April 08, 2010, 11:07:03 AM
i go run as an independent and vote for mihself.

all dem party full of sh*t.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on April 08, 2010, 11:13:52 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

All yuh wrong like ah o. COP eh no NAR
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on April 08, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
In my humble opinion:

The alternatives to the existing government do not present viable platforms that suggest positive reforms in social, economic, governance, health, educational ,infrastructural or political improvements.

Change for change sake or change because of apathy does not represent in my opinion improved lifestyle for the majority. Likewise, change as a result of prolonged resentment or perceived ineptitude does not seem  like a viable solution.

The advent of crime, inflation and social ills are not endemic to TNT. Major industrial countries, including North America are  up against the same ills and have not conquered nor mastered  effective preventative programs, yet we all expect TNT to have these problems resolved. Given our cultural approaches to bureaucracy and to 'getting things done' we expect over night drastic changes by government. Government changes and innovative attempts are fruitless until as a nation we adjust our cultural lens to combat the callousness with how we approach human lives, the integrity with how we complete daily transactions, the wanton economic waste and the manner in which we move in a selfish appetite to horde and to thirstfully exploit the masses to benefit and to promote self interest.

Until all political foes unite with a common pledge to improve  the lives of the masses what we will continue to  engender is a government  who will be self serving to those who are connected, paid off, and to those who continue to suck the $$$ form its coffers while  food prices, housing, and basic commodities continue to soar and impoverish conditions to ravage the very said communities that languish and cry out for changes.

What are all parties' plans for managing and sustaining renewable and existing natural resources? How will these resources be profitable so that all citizens would benefit and not  bear the strain and burden of inept and grossly mismanaging of public funds?

At the moment opposition agendas are not been presented with any solid plans  for reforms simply because none exist. The energies  of today's opposition members appear to be based solely on acquiring power . Therefore, it  incumbent that prior to inking  a finger and casting a vote, that we  demand from all parties, including the one in power and those striving for power to be accountable, to produce concrete and pragmatic  reforms that would address and be implemented to bring about  timely and real change that would improve the  lot of the masses. STOP running our economy as if we were living and earning  usa $$$ and PURCHASING IN THE USA. Implement REGULATORY AGENCIES to enforce price control in an economic market where daily gauging of the ordinary citizen is rampant; to enforce and be a watchdog over government spending and  enacting of policies.

All so called members of parliaments must be more accountable to their constituents;  too often we simply cast our vote with a blind faith that it will be better or that race, ethnicity and social class will act as determining factors for  improvements. I suggest that we must act and hold those who ascribe for public offices to a higher degree of accountability. Nepotism, favoritism and all the other isms which have put us in this mess must be eradicated.

Until Oppositions assist in supporting social programs and change for the people as oppose to opposing for opposing sake, then they too musty also share in the blame for our present conditions; until opposition parties put forth alternatives to crime prevention measures then they too are with fault. No longer should the populous be content with putting people win power who ARE THEN improvising PLANS TO SOLVE THE ISSUES. If an opposition party has solutions, then that must be evident  to the electorate hence voter confidence will be informed and not based on sentimentality.

If government reforms are stymied by opposition, then the opposition should be bold enough to produce their plans and outline their resolutions to today's ills which plague society.

As  those who  have the right to vote, let that be one that is  one based on informed decisions and with  a degree of accountability. I rest my case.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on April 08, 2010, 01:08:36 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!.....Manning has told the President to dissolve Parliament with effect from midnight tonight.....the silly season has officially started!!!...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on April 08, 2010, 01:56:20 PM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

All yuh wrong like ah o. COP eh no NAR
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Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on April 08, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Long live the virtues and the original precepts of Eric Williams
Title: Re: Panday and his cronies stepping up the push for a new party.
Post by: AB.Trini on April 08, 2010, 04:27:35 PM
Ronald Bhola: CAUCUS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF DEMOCRACY COUVA SOUTH. Come and join us at a meeting of the caucus for the preservation of democracy in the UNC on Thursday April 8th @ 5:00pm at the Couva South Constituency conference room. Present will be Mr. Basdeo Panday, Ramesh L Maharaj, Kelv...in Ramnath, Mickela Panday and other MP's and activists. Kelvin Ramnath MP
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thailand’s  This headline insinuates that policies toward Democracy as we know it in TNT will change if the planned election installs a new regime with a seemingly democratic face.  How was democracy any different when UNC was the elected government? How is  it going to be democratic when one of these so called leaders premise is for the advocacy of one ethnic group above the rest? What constitutes undemocratic practices and principles?

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Deeks on April 08, 2010, 05:44:13 PM
Two terms and out for Prime ministers!!!!!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on April 08, 2010, 08:45:44 PM
Interesting stuff JC.


Quote
believe it or not sammy, this was designed by the british tuh keep the masses from forming an alliance against them, so they divided the masses with heavy propaganda concerning each other.

It wasnt the colonials alone that did that, both Williams and Bhadase used this very same tactic back in the early days to keep the people divided to suit their own needs.

I heard clive nunez speak about racial tensions in T&T so much so that williams couldnt ride the train through caroni cause he could've been stoned/killed and the same for bhadase in other parts of the country. He even spoke of a plot between williams and bhadase where Bhadase faked his daughter's kidnapping just so that Indians wont trust the africans thus keeping the divisions and tensions alive.

I know what u speak of people (africans and indians ) living and working together as one. I grew up in that. When i get sick and my nother didnt know what to do, is granny next door(an african) she running by. I remember we were so good with those people- too bad they moved away. I remember a time tanty Phillis (granny daughter who was big and fat) come across by we and sat down causing the chair leg to buss through the rotten floor board of we house  :rotfl: and it was all good- no hard feelings.
 
Anyhow, i am sure that there are many stories like that many people across T&T have but here is the main question: even if the races are all good and dandy, deep down would they really want to put someone of different ethnic back ground to rule them?In other words, would they want to bow down to some one who is perceived to be lower than them.  I think this is the seed sown in the hearts of people of those times and it still germinates today, a seed sown by those who wished to rule including williams, bhadase, panday and the lot.

Look at how some pnm people does complain about the PNM government but if u ask them y they dont vote for someone else, they will say UNC in a mess and full of corruption and it eh have no one else. So alone comes COP, so y not vote for COP? they will say how COP is a knife and fork party and how Dookeran does shake he head too much when he talking . Come on, they vote for the pnm as u rightly said because mainly because of tradition, a sense of indebtedness and race. UNC is the same thing, but thank goodness that the new era rolling in and the indians no longer feel they owe panday anymore. I can only hope/pray that the african youths adopting this style of thinking too.
 
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on April 08, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
Which ruling party had more of a multi-ethnic composition as ministers? Check this party's ministers from the early 60's?

Remember the minister of External affairs? K M? Remember E M?

This party had Indo, Afro Chinese, Syrian, and others of all mixes yet toady we decry and  default to 'race' as a line of demarcation from which we must rest our loyalties upon...why?

What will the ruling party do differently to improve the conditions which has exist for the past five years?
In what areas have  we improved as a nation? In what areas are we continuing to struggle?

EVERY PARTY EVERY ONE WHO IS SEEKING PUBLIC OFFICE MUST STAND UP AND BE ACCOUNTABLE PRIOR TO A VOTE BEING CAST THEIR WAY ; REGARDLESS OF PARTY, CRED OR RACE. THE TIME HAS COME FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AT IT'S HIGHEST.


http://ir.lib.sfu.ca/bitstream/1892/6269/1/b14490298.pdf
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on April 08, 2010, 10:24:29 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!.....Manning has told the President to dissolve Parliament with effect from midnight tonight.....the silly season has officially started!!!...

LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dcs on April 08, 2010, 11:51:30 PM
Here we go again.

Wonder if the UFF report is going to be made public before the election!

We'll see if there is the same ground swell of support there was for the COP last time.  Only way the UNC and COP have a chance is if they co-ordinate which seats they contest.
Doh make any kinda sense for UNC to run in Diego.

I think the PNM just decided things going to get worse as time pass so best to cash in now before the opposition unifies and before the UFF findings start burying them.  Very risky move.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 09, 2010, 04:43:21 AM
Here we go again.

Wonder if the UFF report is going to be made public before the election!

We'll see if there is the same ground swell of support there was for the COP last time.  Only way the UNC and COP have a chance is if they co-ordinate which seats they contest.
Doh make any kinda sense for UNC to run in Diego.

I think the PNM just decided things going to get worse as time pass so best to cash in now before the opposition unifies and before the UFF findings start burying them.  Very risky move.


Hmmm lets see what happens
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on April 09, 2010, 08:43:33 AM
Interesting stuff JC.


Quote
believe it or not sammy, this was designed by the british tuh keep the masses from forming an alliance against them, so they divided the masses with heavy propaganda concerning each other.

It wasnt the colonials alone that did that, both Williams and Bhadase used this very same tactic back in the early days to keep the people divided to suit their own needs.

I heard clive nunez speak about racial tensions in T&T so much so that williams couldnt ride the train through caroni cause he could've been stoned/killed and the same for bhadase in other parts of the country. He even spoke of a plot between williams and bhadase where Bhadase faked his daughter's kidnapping just so that Indians wont trust the africans thus keeping the divisions and tensions alive.

I know what u speak of people (africans and indians ) living and working together as one. I grew up in that. When i get sick and my nother didnt know what to do, is granny next door(an african) she running by. I remember we were so good with those people- too bad they moved away. I remember a time tanty Phillis (granny daughter who was big and fat) come across by we and sat down causing the chair leg to buss through the rotten floor board of we house  :rotfl: and it was all good- no hard feelings.
 
Anyhow, i am sure that there are many stories like that many people across T&T have but here is the main question: even if the races are all good and dandy, deep down would they really want to put someone of different ethnic back ground to rule them?In other words, would they want to bow down to some one who is perceived to be lower than them.  I think this is the seed sown in the hearts of people of those times and it still germinates today, a seed sown by those who wished to rule including williams, bhadase, panday and the lot.

Look at how some pnm people does complain about the PNM government but if u ask them y they dont vote for someone else, they will say UNC in a mess and full of corruption and it eh have no one else. So alone comes COP, so y not vote for COP? they will say how COP is a knife and fork party and how Dookeran does shake he head too much when he talking . Come on, they vote for the pnm as u rightly said because mainly because of tradition, a sense of indebtedness and race. UNC is the same thing, but thank goodness that the new era rolling in and the indians no longer feel they owe panday anymore. I can only hope/pray that the african youths adopting this style of thinking too.
 
Sammy yuh totally missed my point. :frustrated: i was not refering to northerners as being more accepting of indains, or the races getting along together. NO!

my point was that PNM is not ah african party bro, it's ah ppl's party, some of eric williams most loyal supporters were chinese! and the only reason the masses don't know that is BC they were a minority group @ the time.

even eric was torn between being ah chine and ah african, and some black ppl would say he was ah half chine. he did loads for the chinese community, even more than any other demographic on the twin island, and promoted them to high status and blessed them with land and loans tuh run business.

eric used to be up in chungsang chinese association in st anns all the time according to numerous reports hanging out like normal.

so yuh see, it have nutten tuh do wid black party. it have old indian PNM supporters who would never vote for the UNC, that's BC the PNM was never a party of race. french creoles, syrians , chines, african, mix up ppl, like up in paramin, who are for the most part cocospanish and carib natives, they would only vote PNM and nothing more!

yuh want tuh know why? BC it was the party that made us ah nation(independant) gave us hope, and delivered the ppl from colonial head luck that held them back, that's what these ppl felt indebted too, and nothing more.

believe it or not, if errol mahabir, sham mohammad or kamal mohammad back then ran as the leader of the PNM party, PNM supporters woulda voted for them in like manner they did for williams!!

maybe williams was ah racist who hated indians and would never give an indian the nod tuh lead the party and the nation, ah certainly wouldn't put it past him, BC them old fellas was full ah grudging!

 and if so, then that was internal. but ask the ppl if the balisay was worn by an indain, would they care? they would say" we voting PNM and nothing more".

trust meh horse, it was never about race, but rather ah grass roots movement! and nothing more! my granny was not an african, nor is half my family in arima, and tamana and they was all staunch PNM supporters, and not just them, but the whole community, even though they were broke like liberty bell.

bottom line, most african ppl voted PNM BC it was the founding party, and it was ah grass roots party as well, not ah hoity toity party that catered only for the upper and middle crust, but rather the small man who was quite insignificant, especially in those days.

the ppl identified with it, and they felt ah sense of pride and belonging. same for indian ppl. for yrs bass gave them hope when he was the union leader for the CFA, and that was also ah continuation of the labor struggle back in the fifties. so there is some sense of indebtedness i guess.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Dr. Rat on April 09, 2010, 01:10:50 PM
PNM all the way (if I could)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on April 09, 2010, 02:20:34 PM

my point was that PNM is not ah african party bro, it's ah ppl's party, some of eric williams most loyal supporters were chinese! and the only reason the masses don't know that is BC they were a minority group @ the time.


I can not speak for the PNM under Eric but under Patrick, how the saying goes look like a duck, act like a duck. And the same can be said about the UNC.

This has been the posture that these parties have taken to ensure their base because at the end of the day all these politicans care about is themselves, they may be off the people but they are not for the people.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: ribbit on April 09, 2010, 02:47:46 PM
ah see people voting PNM but they giving reason like they afraid the consequences if UNC win. vote strategic instead of voting conscience  :-[ .
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on April 09, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
ah see people voting PNM but they giving reason like they afraid the consequences if UNC win. vote strategic instead of voting conscience  :-[ .
cosign
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 09, 2010, 05:13:19 PM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

true dat.

Bullshit ... ribbit you never fail to disappoint. Viewed strictly through the lens of race, it would have been a watershed moment for the country, and possibly a favourable tipping point. There would have been no revolt of the masses because of the circumstances under which the transition would have occurred.

On a level it's difficult to distill the 80s political climate from the vantage point of hindsight and the vitriol of the political climate 30 years on, but the polarity and invective of present circumstances were unfamiliar then. It very well may have been a poor call by the powers that be (from the perspective of long-term political implications) to usher in Mr. Chambers.

Then again ... me eh know, I din have no Japanese garden in my backyard. ;)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 09, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Long live the virtues and the original precepts of Eric Williams

Wha kind of 'cult of personality' business yuh going on with?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 09, 2010, 08:44:50 PM

Press Conference with Kamla Bissesar


http://www.youtube.com/v/XfYmTzO6hcc
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 09, 2010, 08:46:54 PM
Prime Minister answers


http://www.youtube.com/v/JGS4gcz7e_4
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 09, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

true dat.

Bullshit ... ribbit you never fail to disappoint. Viewed strictly through the lens of race, it would have been a watershed moment for the country, and possibly a favourable tipping point. There would have been no revolt of the masses because of the circumstances under which the transition would have occurred.

On a level it's difficult to distill the 80s political climate from the vantage point of hindsight and the vitriol of the political climate 30 years on, but the polarity and invective of present circumstances were unfamiliar then. It very well may have been a poor call by the powers that be (from the perspective of long-term political implications) to usher in Mr. Chambers.

Then again ... me eh know, I din have no Japanese garden in my backyard. ;)

Not so sure that it is bullshit you know.  The PNM had a great propensity to discriminate against Hindus, and while Kamal was NOT a hindu, you must remember that indians were bottom of the socio-economic ladder.

There was an interesting occurrence when lots of Indians boycotted the polls and PNM under Eric Williams swept every seat in the election.  Do you know what caused this to happen?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dinho on April 10, 2010, 08:52:31 AM
Fork that I voting UNC solely off of bad mind.

Is a sad situation because both parties is shit and providing a man with no viable options. And not voting is basically a vote for a party anyhow yuh take it.

But the way i see, PNM realize they up shit street so trying to force through an election quick quick before the shit hit the fan... Lewwe hurry up and jam dem before UNC sort themselves out and in a position to provide an option for better governance. They trying to ride the incumbency advantage to buy a next 5 years could continue with the bullshit?

Nah, i find thats insulting my intelligence... Almost as bad as McCain pulling in Palin on the sole basis of needing a woman as a running mate and expecting me to fall for that.

Kamla, Jack and the UNC all the way!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on April 10, 2010, 09:38:33 AM
Prime Minister Patrick Manning and Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar will both be in Tobago today for screening of PNM candidates and cementing of UNC Tobago allies, respectively. And both the ruling party and the Opposition UNC hit the road on Monday night in north and south Trinidad, respectively, each with the first of their election meetings. Leaders, MPs and party officials of each party will be speaking on the two respective platforms. Manning is going to Tobago today for screening of PNM’s Tobago East and West nominees. Screening begins at PNM’s Tobago office at 9.30 am, PNM’s Tobago Council confirmed.

UNC leader Persad-Bissessar will be in Tobago from 4.30 pm to meet with leader of the Tobago Organisation of People (TOP) Ashworth Jack to discuss TOP candidates to fight the two Tobago seats on behalf of the UNC. Persad-Bissessar yesterday reiterated that UNC would not be contesting the two Tobago seats, but was in discussions with TOP to have an arrangement for election. The PNM, which has put its cottage meetings and walkabouts on hold pending completion of screening, will hold the first of its public campaign meetings on Monday night in the heart of the East-West Corridor in St Augustine (near Hi-Lo car park). The UNC’s executive on Thursday night also agreed to kick off that party’s election campaign with a public meeting at Gopaul Lands (near Hi-Lo) in Marabella on Monday night, according to Persad-Bissessar.

She said statements which UNC MPs had prepared for the aborted no-confidence motion debate yesterday would be issued at UNC meetings. She alleged that the UNC had obtained “information” regarding the PNM Government, the controversial Guanapo church and the Shanghai Corporation. Yesterday, the PNM screened nominees for several more East-West Corridor seats, including D’Abadie/O’Meara, Caroni East, Chaguanas West, St Augustine (Esau Mohammed, who had unsuccessfully contested the seat), Arima (incumbent MP Pennelope Beckles and Senator Laurel Lezama), and St Ann’s East (incumbent Anthony Roberts). Among the Arima nominees, Beckles was nominated by 19 party groups and Lezama by three, according to Bobby Charles, assistant secretary of PNM’s Arima constituency executive, yesterday.

Today, Manning who heads PNM’s screening team will interview Tobago East incumbent MP Rennie Dumas who has been nominated by party groups for the seat again. The Tobago West nominee is banker Terrence Williams, of Canaan/Bon Accord, who is tipped to replace incumbent MP Standford Callendar. The latter did not sign a consent letter to be renominated and was therefore out of the running. On Wednesday, Callendar said in an interview that he had won the seat in general elections of 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2007, and had decided that he would not contest again and this would have been his last term. He said Manning’s decision to call an election had only shortened his term. Thanking his constituents and the ruling party “for the faith and confidence in me over the years,” Callendar added: “I have absolutely no problems with the election being called.

“I’ll be a big part of PNM’s upcoming campaign platform and together with PNM’s Tobago Council, I’ll also be helping the new Tobago West candidate,” he said. “I think the party is making an excellent nomination in Terrence Williams, a young man who is very intelligent and who, in my experience, seems committed to service and the interests of the people and party.
“I have every confidence he’ll be an excellent replacement for me in Tobago West.” After Tobago screening is completed this morning, the Screening team returns to screening at Balisier House in Port-of-Spain where nominees for seats, including Mayaro, will be interviewed this afternoon. Mayaro nominees include Clifford Campbell and Arvind Moonan. The PNM continues screening nominees next Tuesday, after Monday’s public meeting.

See Public Affairs
http://guardian.co.tt/commentary/columnist/2010/04/10/final-face-pmrowle...

 :o
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trinione on April 10, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
is Rowley a candidate this election?... or not decided yet?
if not I think PNM loosing Diego West.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on April 10, 2010, 10:57:37 AM
Fork that I voting UNC solely off of bad mind.

Is a sad situation because both parties is shit and providing a man with no viable options. And not voting is basically a vote for a party anyhow yuh take it.

But the way i see, PNM realize they up shit street so trying to force through an election quick quick before the shit hit the fan... Lewwe hurry up and jam dem before UNC sort themselves out and in a position to provide an option for better governance. They trying to ride the incumbency advantage to buy a next 5 years could continue with the bullshit?

Nah, i find thats insulting my intelligence... Almost as bad as McCain pulling in Palin on the sole basis of needing a woman as a running mate and expecting me to fall for that.

Kamla, Jack and the UNC all the way!
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Eh  eh it is the \bad mind vote \ now.. general apathy? I am not saying that the present government has all the solutions and that the country is not  wreathing with discontentment but what are the other parties offering as solutions?

In my humble opinion the present party ought to have a  change of leadership ( mistake number one: put wife in office; put the same inept minister in charge of security; purchasing more boats without  trained and  people  loyal to the cause will not reduce or act as a deterrent to crime; overhaul of security forces needed; eradicate those who are suppose to uphold the law yet are in cahoots with 'badjohns') but given the state  and lack of substantive platforms by present opposing parties, I and not convinced that the alternatives will be any better or worse? WE MUST DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY ; WE MUST DEMAND PRAGMATIC AND PRACTICAL PLANS FOR SOCIAL CHANGE RATHER THAN  VOTE WITH AH VEXATION or on account of  RACIAL AFFILIATION'

So with that being said, here is one for those who will vote based on apathy, party affiliation or otherwise:


PNM til I die. Is PNM  til I die.
You could tell meh you don’t love me and that’s the reason why.

Because you ent see eh talking nothing
Because you ent  see eh talking nothing
They going without telling people nothing

PNM til I die. Is PNM  til I die.
You could tell meh you don’t love me and that’s the reason why.

Dem  parties I  listening to doh even know
Dem  parties I  listening to doh even know
They looking for direction and they eh even know.

PNM til I die. Is PNM  til I die.
You could tell meh you don’t love me and that’s the reason why.

Each day pass without you ent see not  getting better
Each day pass without you ent see not  getting better
Ah doh know why ah fear them in power

PNM til I die. Is PNM  til I die.
You could tell meh you don’t love me and that’s the reason why.

But if PNM  leaving it may not be  for better
But if PNM  leaving it may not be  for better
That is why I  staying with PNM  and not the other

PNM til I die. Is PNM  til I die.
You could tell meh you don’t love me and that’s the reason why.

WAKE UP TNT
ASK THEM ALL FOR ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on April 10, 2010, 10:59:19 AM
i fed up  :-\
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on April 10, 2010, 01:27:44 PM
i fed up  :-\

D congregation say AMENNNNNNN
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on April 11, 2010, 06:46:45 AM
Fork that I voting UNC solely off of bad mind.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Ah laughing eh Omar, but that is the kinda sentiment I'm feeling.....people prepared to vote UNC just to teach Patrick a lesson....

i fed up  :-\

D congregation say AMENNNNNNN

......and Amen and Amen and Amen....*sigh*
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 11, 2010, 08:34:46 AM
is Rowley a candidate this election?... or not decided yet?
if not I think PNM loosing Diego West.


Is loose yuh say..lol
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on April 11, 2010, 10:09:19 AM
 This  is the original question:Given the current state of Trinidad and Tobago, how and what will influence your decisions if you are given a chance to ink a finger?



"society, like fish, rots from the head, down - not in the other direction"
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on April 11, 2010, 10:33:51 AM
is Rowley a candidate this election?... or not decided yet?
if not I think PNM loosing Diego West.


Is loose yuh say..lol

lol
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 12, 2010, 08:00:39 AM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

true dat.

Bullshit ... ribbit you never fail to disappoint. Viewed strictly through the lens of race, it would have been a watershed moment for the country, and possibly a favourable tipping point. There would have been no revolt of the masses because of the circumstances under which the transition would have occurred.

On a level it's difficult to distill the 80s political climate from the vantage point of hindsight and the vitriol of the political climate 30 years on, but the polarity and invective of present circumstances were unfamiliar then. It very well may have been a poor call by the powers that be (from the perspective of long-term political implications) to usher in Mr. Chambers.

Then again ... me eh know, I din have no Japanese garden in my backyard. ;)

Not so sure that it is bullshit you know.  The PNM had a great propensity to discriminate against Hindus, and while Kamal was NOT a hindu, you must remember that indians were bottom of the socio-economic ladder.

There was an interesting occurrence when lots of Indians boycotted the polls and PNM under Eric Williams swept every seat in the election.  Do you know what caused this to happen?

To accept what you're suggesting, I would have to accept that the PNM was discerning in its discrimination of Hindus vis-a-vis Muslims vis-a-vis Indians as a collective per se. Yet still you remind me that Indians as a collective were at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder (a reality not created by the PNM incidentally).

A question I haven't had a definitive answer to is whether anyone of Indian ethnicity had a seat at the decision-making table when the transition created by Williams' passing occurred. I know there's popular lore as to reasons for what we saw in public view as it relates to race relations (and the subsequent growth of the legend/myth? such as promoted by ribbit ... However, in other words, was there Indian 'complicity' in the decision as to the successor? Was there successor planning? Was there a disgruntled core of disllusioned Indian PNMites following the decision? Was there an exodus/switching of political allegiance as a result of the decision?

Can we ignore that the decision occurred under constitutional fiat? What was the extent of the discretion involved given the former? Upon whose recommendation did the appointment occur?

Just asking.

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The events of the 1971 election boycott are not properly characterized as an Indian boycott. Nor are they completely characterized as an Indian boycott. As you know, there were several antecedent events leading to (and including) the inability of the opposition to coalesce.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 12, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
The events of the 1971 election boycott are not properly characterized as an Indian boycott. Nor are they completely characterized as an Indian boycott. As you know, there were several antecedent events leading to (and including) the inability of the opposition to coalesce.

What about the series of motorcades threatening people?  I saw it with my own eyes and heard the talk of violence...culminating with a drive around the Queens Park Savannah and down Frederick Street.

While the Hindus voted against the PNM for ever, the Muslims and Presbyterians voted PNM.  The demogrpahics support this and is factual!

Based on this tribal voting the Hindus were marginalized..again FACTUAL!  If the PNM were interested in changing this they had ample opportunity.  They could have brought some hindus into the fold but they did not as they felt they did not need them to win, until the population demographic changed, and Hindus increased in numbers.

It is true that the PNm were not responsible for Indians being at the foot of the socio-economic ladder, but they did very little to help them climb up that same ladder.

hINDUS HAVE BEEN LARGELY MARGINALIZED BY THE pnm, THEY REFERRED TO THE OPPOSITION AS TROUBLESOME COOLIES AND hINDUS.  tHAT IS A FACT, i AM NOT SURE WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING, but what I am saying I KNOW is FACT!

They even refuaed the people a radio license!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: 1-868 on April 12, 2010, 02:32:10 PM
Fackery

Everyone of the rich hindus got their wealth with the PNM government in power, Moonan Seeram brother, Junior Sammy, Ish, just to name a few all got bigggggg contracts from the PNM, long before NAR, UNC and COp come into being

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 12, 2010, 02:42:06 PM
Fackery

Everyone of the rich hindus got their wealth with the PNM government in power, Moonan Seeram brother, Junior Sammy, Ish, just to name a few all got bigggggg contracts from the PNM, long before NAR, UNC and COp come into being



Corruption is different from supplying the masses fool!   Black Power really meant negro power and the indians did not even view NJAC and Granger as representing them, black protesters, black police and a black government.

Name me the Hindu Cabinet Minister in a PNM government!  Jes one!  Steups.  NONE ah allyuh could teaCH ME ANYTHING ABOUT THE pnm..none!!!!

yES THERE WERE A FEW iNDIANS WITH njac, BUT THEY were UWI students and some muslims, who beleived that NAJC included them...but the majority, VAST majority did not buy into black power...!

I wonder how blacks would have felt if Indians had raised clenched fists and shouted "Indian Power!"
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: 1-868 on April 12, 2010, 03:05:31 PM
Why are you using this forum for your racist rants...   
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on April 12, 2010, 03:11:37 PM
Why are you using this forum for your racist rants...   

 Let me inform you..I am black,, there is NO racist rants fool!  Just the truth that you cannot handle.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 12, 2010, 03:31:30 PM
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I wonder how blacks would have felt if Indians had raised clenched fists and shouted "Indian Power!"

I support your position regarding this ... and there's ample support in my record on the forum, should anyone doubt that.

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Well, I know you know the intricacies of the PNM ... so we eh go waste time on that ... but I will ask what did Mohammed, Mahabir, and Chambers each bring to the table in EW's view?

And, of course, the questions I raised above are not negated by you being an eyewitness to history.

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As far as bringing Hindus in particular into the fold? Here's an excerpt from US Army Intelligence:

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After his election in 1961, Williams reached an understanding with R.N. Capildeo, the Hindu DLP leader, under which the DLP was consulted in some national decisions and DLP members were sent abroad on diplomatic missions. Capildeo was allowed a special leave of absence from Parliament to spend the greater part of the year in London. Although the understanding appeared, on the surface, to be a magnanimous gesture on Williams's part, it was a skillful political move because it left the opposition party without a leader in Trinidad and Tobago. Capildeo's high-handed absentee management alienated many within the DLP, especially blacks. In 1964 many non-East Indians defected from the DLP and founded the Liberal Party of Trinidad, reducing the DLP representation in the House from ten to seven.

http://countrystudies.us/caribbean-islands/54.htm

Thought I would point that out lest anyone think the historical definition of Indo-African political interface turned on the PNM.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on April 12, 2010, 06:26:25 PM
In keeping with some of the recent posts thought I would share this article, I found the highlighted sections thought provking.
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The Road to Independence and Dr. Eric Williams (http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/selfnews/viewnews.cgi?newsid1157500432,97485,.shtml)
Posted: Tuesday, September 5, 2006

tntmirror.com
September 01, 2006

AS we celebrate Independence this year we should reflect on the road to our freedom.

It is said that self-government was gradually increased between 1946 and 1961 and the elections of those years served as dress rehearsals for independence.

From 1946 to 1955, East Indians were the best organised group in Trinidad and Tobago, according to history books.
Comprising only 35 per cent of the population in 1946, East Indians won almost half of the elected seats in the Legislative Council that year.


They used their votes to finally secure the legal right to marry and bury their dead according to Hindu and Muslim rites.

Since their arrival in Trinidad more than a century earlier, many East Indians had been classified as illegitimate because no unregistered marriage was considered legal for inheritance purposes.

Political parties remained fragmented in the 1950 elections, often united, as one historian has put it, by nothing more than a "common passion for the spoils of office."

One hundred forty-one candidates contested the 18 elected seats; the single largest bloc of seats on the Legislative Council, eight out of 26, was captured by an alliance between the "Butler party" and East Indian leaders.

The British and the non-East Indians disliked the idea of having Butler and his supporters come to power.

After the 1950 elections, none of Butler's party was chosen to sit on the Executive Council, the result being that Gomes practically ran the government.

Within the restrictions of his semi-autonomous government, Gomes tried to function as a mediator between capital and labor and to placate both Britain and Trinidad and Tobago.

He had limited success, however, and constitutional reform was postponed until 1955, with elections scheduled for the following year.

The election of 1956 was a watershed in the political history of Trinidad and Tobago because it determined the course of the country for the next thirty years.

Gomes was defeated, and a new party, the PNM, captured power and held it until 1986.

PNM founder and leader Eric Williams dominated the political scene from 1956 until his death in 1981.

Williams was a native Trinidadian who had spent almost 20 years abroad in Britain and the United States.

Although his family was poor, Williams had received a very good education by winning scholarships and had earned a First Class Oxford degree.

Williams' academic prowess set the standard for all Trinidadian and Tobagonian political leaders through the late 1980s.

While at Oxford, Williams was subjected to a number of racial slights, and he also suffered racial discrimination when he worked for the Anglo-American Caribbean Commission in Washington from 1948 to 1955, an organisation created in 1942 to co-ordinate nonmilitary aspects of Caribbean policy.

This discrimination profoundly and permanently affected Williams' outlook on life and his politics.

He was a man who knew himself to be the intellectual equal of educated people in Oxford, London, and Washington, and he felt that he had not been accepted as such.

Returning to Trinidad in 1948 as deputy chairman of the Caribbean Research Council of the Caribbean Commission, Williams involved himself in cultural, educational, and semi-political activities and became well known.

In 1956 he decided to enter politics and to forge a political party, the People's National Movement (PNM).

The PNM was created by middle-class professionals who were mainly but not exclusively black.

Its main support came from the black community, although Williams was also able to attract some whites and East Indians.


Williams gained a public constituency and a loyal party following by giving lectures in Woodford Square, the main square in Port of Spain.

His lectures on Caribbean history were attended by thousands, and Williams dubbed his interaction with the crowd the "University of Woodford Square."

There, Williams forged a bond with the people that remained even after his death 25 years later.

Trinidadians and Tobagonians were proud to have an international scholar in their midst. Williams gave them a sense of national pride and confidence that no other leader was able to match.

His charisma and leadership made it possible for the new party to be independent from existing political organisations and from trade unions.

PNM leaders envisioned a broad national party that would include both capitalists and labourers; as such, the PNM rejected socialism and welcomed foreign capital investment.

In 1956 the PNM captured a slim majority of the elected seats on the Legislative Council, receiving 39.8 per cent of the vote.

Butler's party and the TLP split the other elected seats.

The British governor, who controlled five appointed seats and two ex-officio seats, filled all of these with men acceptable to the PNM, thus giving the party a majority of two-thirds of the seats on the Legislative Council.

Because the British were hoping to form a Caribbean federation or, as a second choice, to launch viable independent countries, it was in their interest to support Williams, a charismatic black leader who had founded a strong political party, who had international education and experience, and who believed in private domestic and foreign investment.

Between 1956 and 1962, Williams consolidated his political base and resolved two very important issues: federation and the presence of United States bases on Trinidad.

The British created the West Indies Federation in 1958.

During the next four years, 10 island nations, including Trinidad and Tobago, struggled without success to make the federation into a government.

The two largest nations, Trinidad and Tobago and Jamaica, had opposing viewpoints; the former advocated a strong federal government, whereas the latter preferred a weak one.

Trinidad and Tobago, with its higher revenues, preferred representation according to financial contribution, but Jamaica, with its larger population, wanted representation on the basis of population.

After Jamaica decided in September 1961 not to remain in the federation, Trinidad and Tobago also decided to withdraw, not wishing to be tied to eight small, poor islands for which it would be financially responsible.

Despite British assistance and Williams' compelling personality, the PNM did not come to rule Trinidad and Tobago without a struggle.

A number of groups united to oppose the PNM in the federal elections of 1958 under the banner of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP).

Once again the campaign became racially polarised as the DLP attracted the East Indians and others who were left out of the PNM.

East Indians felt that their cultural identity might be lost if they did not stick together.

They deplored marriages between East Indians and blacks because they considered blacks to have an inferior culture; East Indians were less hostile to marriage with whites.

Blacks also looked with disfavor on intermarriage with East Indians.

In addition, the East Indian middle class, which had developed since the 1930s, seemed a threat to the black professionals who were just coming to power.


The PNM increased its share of the vote in the 1958 election from 39.8 per cent in 1956 to 48 per cent; under the winner-take-all rule, however, the DLP won 6 out of the 10 contested seats, as most of its victories came in regions where the East Indians had an absolute majority.

The PNM profited from the British policy of granting increasing self-government to Trinidad and Tobago.

Cabinet government was introduced in 1959; the governor no longer presided over the Executive Council, the Executive Council and chief minister were renamed cabinet and premier (the pre-independence title for prime minister), and the premier had the right to appoint and dismiss ministers.

Mindful of their slim majority in the 1958 election, leaders of the PNM determined to take whatever steps were necessary to win the 1961 elections and be the party to lead Trinidad and Tobago into independence.

The PNM decided to use the issue of the withdrawal of the United States from the Chaguaramas naval base to unify the country and solidify their political base.

In party rallies in 1959 and 1960, Williams pledged that the flag of Trinidad and Tobago would soon fly over Chaguaramas and also declared independence from Britain and from the 1941 Lend-Lease Agreement.

Declaring that Trinidad and Tobago would not exchange British colonialism for the United States variety, Williams rallied the country to oust the United States from Chaguaramas and to support the PNM.

When British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan came to Port of Spain in June 1960, he told the government that he would open negotiations between the United States and Trinidad and Tobago over Chaguaramas and that Trinidad and Tobago would be an independent participant.

Once Williams had won the right for Trinidad and Tobago to sit as an equal with the United States and Britain, he cooled his anti-imperialist rhetoric.

The December 1960 settlement gave the United States base rights until 1977 and granted Trinidad and Tobago US$30 million in United States Agency for International Development assistance money for road construction and education.

The United States closed the naval base at Chaguaramas in 1967.

The December 1961 election, which took place after Trinidad and Tobago had received full internal self-government within the West Indies Federation, was characterised by the use of racial appeals by both parties.

The main constitutional issue was the drawing of electoral boundaries.

Pro-PNM supporters broke up DLP meetings with stone throwing; the government declared a State of Emergency in areas where East Indians were a majority and called out 3,000 police.

The PNM used its government leadership to good advantage.

Responding to labour unrest, Williams gave all government workers a raise during the summer of 1961.

He also moved politically to the right, purging some left-wing supporters who had been prominent in the Chaguaramas fight.

The PNM profited from the fact that the DLP was not a unified party.

Its leader had been ill, and younger East Indians felt that his lack of education was a liability when contrasted with Williams.

During the DLP political infighting, the new generation of East Indian professionals chose Rudranath Capildeo, a high-caste Hindu, to head the DLP.
Although Capildeo was highly educated, a Ph.D. and a fully qualified barrister, he lacked Williams' ability to appeal to the masses.

Eighty-eight per cent of the voters turned out for the December 1961 election; in a vote that largely followed ethnic lines, Williams and the PNM won with 57 per cent.

Reflecting the ethnic split, Williams filled the 12 cabinet slots with eight blacks, two whites, and two East Indians -- one Christian and one Muslim.

Appointees for the newly created Senate followed similar lines.

As Trinidad and Tobago faced independence, the Black middle class was firmly in power.




Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on April 13, 2010, 01:04:38 AM
OBAMA men advise UNC...
..link  http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/04/13/obama-men-advise-unc
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on April 13, 2010, 04:16:43 PM
OBAMA men advise UNC...
..link  http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/04/13/obama-men-advise-unc
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YES WE CAN....so what? how much did that cost to bring in these high price consultants? for less I could  come and say based on the sentiments of the electorates, the biased ways in which people want to vote and the general lack  or "I doh care what all yuh have as plans" as long as allyuh run against the PNM that go take care of the discontentment,  and disenchantment allyuh have good  chances of winning.
How come jackasses cyar see that; they have tuh  go bring in  these folks...lawd and  that is to impress which people?

 Is the context the same?  well then again with the way people does quote us $$$$ prices for every flipping thing you would think that TNT nationals working and making US $$$$.


Is the strategy to  win an election or to have some real concrete plans to alleviate the ills that plague TNT society?  Spend money time  consultants devising  pragmatic and  workable  frameworks that would  benefit teh common good of all; despite RACE CREED GENDER .
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on May 16, 2010, 10:43:54 PM
Let  thy People go!!!! out of the depths  have we cried..... who will lead?

 Leaders of integrity where are you?

I cast my vote for.........
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on May 16, 2010, 11:02:37 PM
Let  thy People go!!!! out of the depths  have we cried..... who will lead?

 Leaders of integrity where are you?

I cast my vote for.........

you not voting....in Trinidad elections.....so wha???
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on May 18, 2010, 05:11:17 PM
The opposition parties have not  shown me substantial  concrete palns that they have any solid platform to do any better than the  present ruling party.

The present ruling party have not shown any  innovative ideas to combat the ills that is plaguing  society.

If they were to call a leadership referendum and change leaders, one may be inclined to go with what is.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Deeks on May 18, 2010, 05:13:10 PM
People don't want to see plans from the opposition. They just don't want to see Patos face anymore!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 18, 2010, 05:17:45 PM
People don't want to see plans from the opposition. They just don't want to see Patos face anymore!!!

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

That my BROTHERS AND SISTERS IS THE REASON why people voting. Wednesday we go try and figure out what the hell Kamla and her posse up too. And in 6 months call another elections. By then the coalition mash up because Warner find Assam tiefin the money faster dan he.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on May 18, 2010, 05:32:53 PM
'Vex' vote could see TNT moving in  a catastrophic direction of further degradation. The xisiting opposition  parties are sitting in the best position because  what is presently ruling is taking a lot of  'heat' and major discontentment is apparent.

However the electorates could simply vote out the ruler in his constituency riding; rule out the minister of security and let's move on from there.

When allyuh go in that booth THINK twice as to whether or not these so call opposition parities are selling you a bag of hot air and fruitless promises.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 18, 2010, 05:47:30 PM

article by Pastor Clive Dottin

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Post-May 24, 3 Cs and corruption
Pastor Clive Dottin
Published: 18 May 2010
Pastor Clive Dottin
After May 24, we have to appreciate the talents of every group, and unite to fight the monsters that are placing us on the list of endangered species.

After May 24, we have to empower the victims of abuse, comfort mothers mourning the loss of their sons and daughters, support children grieving for their fathers whom they saw collapsing as bullets were pumped into them. After May 24, we have to adopt homeless children and encourage decent citizens to lift their self-esteem and help them to identify their talents. We have to motivate them to trust, have respect and forgive. After May 24, we have to launch a national grief-care project. In fact the project must become a ministry. But we have a challenge: some people wish to heal while holding on to the desire for revenge. This is impossible. There can be no real healing without forgiveness! After May 24, we have to continue the quest for justice. Who will protect Police Officer YY94? This is not her number; I have used 94 as a symbol. Who will have the courage to protect this police officer? She has been threatened because she dared to attack corruption and is prepared to pay the price. I have said it before, and I will say it again, behind every consistently corrupt cop there is a crooked lawyer, a reckless politician, and a greedy businessman. Therefore, after May 24, the untouchables in business, in the police, in the Customs, must be challenged.

Whichever party wins, that group must appreciate the development strategy that involves consultation before imposition. The leader of the Partnership has called for constitutional reform that involves a fixed election date, term limits for Prime Ministers—two terms—and the right to recall MPs. If Kamla Persad-Bissessar becomes the first female Prime Minister, we would hope that she engages the process that would make the vision a reality. Because expressions of nobility are articulated when folks are in the opposition, and when they become the government, those ideals are placed on the backburner. But with a few days to go, we would not have very long to wait to separate the genuine from the cosmetic. Let us remember that sections of our Constitution nourish the maximum leadership style and that is why we have to engage in reform after meaningful dialogue. Bodies here, bodies there, bodies everywhere. Pregnant woman shot and killed along with her partner. Imagine at a wake people are being killed. Death producing death!

But what about Michelle Samaroo, 23? She went in search of a job and was brutally abducted and murdered. We need the three Cs to deal with crime and corruption. We have to be clinical, consistent and courageous. A spiralling crime rate reflects our inconsistency in the destruction of the monster called corruption. Imagine children playing with stepfather’s weapon, legal or illegal? Then a shot pierces the valley, a child drops dead. This is the climax of lawbreaking, indiscipline and missing fathers. The problems are so deep and pervasive; consequently we must be clinical, consistent and courageous. After May 24, who will defend the righteous who are being oppressed by the wicked? This calls for faith and courage, because ultimately light will triumph over darkness. After May 24, we have to deal with the decreasing amount of role models in the society. Think of the senior officer, a superintendent if you please, driving on the Priority Bus Route who refused to hand over his insurance. He fled the scene, leaving his permit behind.

What about the law and justice? We have to be clinical, consistent, and courageous. We have to do the research, get the facts and take the best actions in the interest of the country. What about the most horrific act for 2010, perhaps greater than any tragedy that took place in 2009? This was the fiery destruction of five members of the Douragh family. Already it has been suggested that politics may be splashed over the ocean of this bizarre murder. Hello there, children perished in the blaze, triggered by demon-possessed beasts in human form. After May 24, we would have to follow the biblical advice and resist false prophets who mislead and misinform leaders. Let us examine Matthew 24:23,
24:23. Then if any man shall say unto you, lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

There is a phenomenal example in the Bible involving King Saul and the witch of Endor. The king had outlawed witchcraft but he returned to her to get advice. This witch claimed to have the power to communicate with the dead, but in fact she was flirting with the devil. After this encounter, depressed Saul went to battle, perceiving that the spirit of God had left him and he committed suicide. His sons were also killed that day. Israel experienced a compound tragedy. After May 24, some religious leaders will have to repent for encouraging their members to vote along racial lines. O what a tangled web we weave, when we first set out to deceive. It is incredible that religious leaders who preach about grace and forgiveness would use the pulpit to propagate racism. Religious leaders must be instruments of healing and not political tools compromising spiritual principles and injecting hatred into their members.

After May 24, we would have to cope with the clinical reality of victims of abuse becoming abusers. After May 24, we would have to respond to the black male crisis. We would have to build a bridge between the hills of Laventille and the plains of Caroni. We have to proclaim the sanctity of life as we deal with the thorny issue of abortion. We are here to protect life, not to destroy it. Every child is appointed by God to perform a special function which is called the mission. Finally, speakers on the politi-cal platform must display a passion for injecting hope in our citizens!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 18, 2010, 07:57:03 PM
'Vex' vote could see TNT moving in  a catastrophic direction of further degradation. The xisiting opposition  parties are sitting in the best position because  what is presently ruling is taking a lot of  'heat' and major discontentment is apparent.

However the electorates could simply vote out the ruler in his constituency riding; rule out the minister of security and let's move on from there.

When allyuh go in that booth THINK twice as to whether or not these so call opposition parities are selling you a bag of hot air and fruitless promises.

Right now AB people just fed up and doh give ah ass what Kamla and her posse planning for the nation. People just want Manning OUT. And they will tell you in your face, that they voting for the coalition just to get Manning out.  Simple!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 18, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
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Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 18, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
'Vex' vote could see TNT moving in  a catastrophic direction of further degradation. The xisiting opposition  parties are sitting in the best position because  what is presently ruling is taking a lot of  'heat' and major discontentment is apparent.

However the electorates could simply vote out the ruler in his constituency riding; rule out the minister of security and let's move on from there.

When allyuh go in that booth THINK twice as to whether or not these so call opposition parities are selling you a bag of hot air and fruitless promises.

Right now AB people just fed up and doh give ah ass what Kamla and her posse planning for the nation. People just want Manning OUT. And they will tell you in your face, that they voting for the coalition just to get Manning out.  Simple!

Simple as u say wit all d free education peeps dunce no tail. So Manning gone all will b well. I will neva 4get when manning came 2 power in 1991 he give dem back deh 10%  but Income Tax went up 2 35% mankind cuss. Then Panday tell dem a debt is a debt and it must b paid in cash is when Manning get back in power d arreas was settle so let dem get rid ah Manning and we will b dancin in d streets from d 31st give she ahwk 2 put d kitchen cabinet 2gether.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: mukumsplau on May 19, 2010, 03:15:19 AM
People don't want to see plans from the opposition. They just don't want to see Patos face anymore!!!

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

That my BROTHERS AND SISTERS IS THE REASON why people voting. Wednesday we go try and figure out what the hell Kamla and her posse up too. And in 6 months call another elections. By then the coalition mash up because Warner find Assam tiefin the money faster dan he.



na..warner does tief by d millions..assam, by d thawzens
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 19, 2010, 04:15:36 AM
Mrs John why does she have to write a letter describing anything... look at the pics or visit the woman...

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2010/05/19/mom-2-kids-live-fowl-pen
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: ann3boys on May 19, 2010, 08:28:54 AM
the coalition manifesto is available online
www.coptnt.com
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 19, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
'Vex' vote could see TNT moving in  a catastrophic direction of further degradation. The xisiting opposition  parties are sitting in the best position because  what is presently ruling is taking a lot of  'heat' and major discontentment is apparent.

However the electorates could simply vote out the ruler in his constituency riding; rule out the minister of security and let's move on from there.

When allyuh go in that booth THINK twice as to whether or not these so call opposition parities are selling you a bag of hot air and fruitless promises.

Right now AB people just fed up and doh give ah ass what Kamla and her posse planning for the nation. People just want Manning OUT. And they will tell you in your face, that they voting for the coalition just to get Manning out.  Simple!

Simple as u say wit all d free education peeps dunce no tail. So Manning gone all will b well. I will neva 4get when manning came 2 power in 1991 he give dem back deh 10%  but Income Tax went up 2 35% mankind cuss. Then Panday tell dem a debt is a debt and it must b paid in cash is when Manning get back in power d arreas was settle so let dem get rid ah Manning and we will b dancin in d streets from d 31st give she ahwk 2 put d kitchen cabinet 2gether.

You don't seem to understand that it is not about whether all will be well with the country when manning out. The fact of the matter is no one wants to give that swell headed idiot and his acolytes any kind of caution for his (their) misguided delusions of grandeur, blatant disregard to the concerns of the citizenry, and complete refusal to accept the error of their ways.

What you have is an (essentially with a few notable exceptions) popular (or at least populist) policy being implemented by a decidedly unpopular government.

Is not just Manning have to go: I would throw Marlene, Emily, Colm, Martin, Conrad, Karen, Hazel (and possibly Amery) under the bus as well. Is just that getting rid of Patos is the fastest way to get that clearing out done - all ah them could lose their seat and then still get put back as senator ministers (Martin, Conrad, Emily and Hazel not even going up)

now if only the coalition didn't make me steups every other hour I wouldn't be flipping this coin...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 19, 2010, 10:28:03 PM
For those who doh support nun ah dem... ah cayr do that because their is no such thing as "nun ah dem" when yuh voting... One of the top 3 will win... and go on to run de country... if I had it my way I would still have the NAR... but this is wishful thinking..!

come on NAR in modern language is spelt COP.


Listen in my view, if an Indian had taken over the PNM, their base would not have accepted that - simple. Imagine is indian making most use of the pnmistic ways and benefiting behind the scenes and the african base didn't/doesnt mind that, but if an Indian take over leadership then it will be right up in their faces and that was/is unacceptable.

true dat.

Bullshit ... ribbit you never fail to disappoint. Viewed strictly through the lens of race, it would have been a watershed moment for the country, and possibly a favourable tipping point. There would have been no revolt of the masses because of the circumstances under which the transition would have occurred.

On a level it's difficult to distill the 80s political climate from the vantage point of hindsight and the vitriol of the political climate 30 years on, but the polarity and invective of present circumstances were unfamiliar then. It very well may have been a poor call by the powers that be (from the perspective of long-term political implications) to usher in Mr. Chambers.

Then again ... me eh know, I din have no Japanese garden in my backyard. ;)

Not so sure that it is bullshit you know.  The PNM had a great propensity to discriminate against Hindus, and while Kamal was NOT a hindu, you must remember that indians were bottom of the socio-economic ladder.

There was an interesting occurrence when lots of Indians boycotted the polls and PNM under Eric Williams swept every seat in the election.  Do you know what caused this to happen?

I wasn't around then, but everything I hear told me that the boycott took place ostensibly because of protests against the continued use of voting machines that were deemed rigged by the then Opposition, led by ANR Robinson. It is likely that in truth and in fact, Robinson (then leader of the ACDC, knew pertinently he could not win the election and sought to undermine the PNM's credibility in the wake of the Black Power elections by orchestrating the no vote campaign.
The reason that so many Indians boycotted, however was that the DLP, Robinson's coalition partner in that election, was a decidely Indian supported party, and the major vote gatherer in Trinidad. What is quite weird about the boycott is that is was essentially a one man decision by Robinson, and leader of the DLP at the time was not consulted (he essentially found out about it on the platform while waiting for Mr. Robinson to finish his speech)
What occurred is that most of the non PNM Indian vote cast that year was actually loyalty votes for Badase Sagan Maraj, the man who had been the pioneer of party politics among the Indian electorate, and who was then sidelined when the DLP was formed to counter the PNM.

Is pretty much the equivalent of today, if Rowley quit the PNM, start a Tobago party called the RWB (Rottweiler Brigade), had join up with the UNC after Kamla wipe the floor with Bas to contest this election, then get up on a joint platform one day just before the election to announce that he call on all conscientous and responsible citizens to boycott the polls because he has conclusive proof that EBC are loaded with PNM cronies and have been since 2002...and finally only Bas' new party support went out and vote while the PNM loyalists make mas

sounds weird eh?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 19, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
Mrs John why does she have to write a letter describing anything... look at the pics or visit the woman...

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2010/05/19/mom-2-kids-live-fowl-pen

Come on man... allyuh criticism of any and everything 'government' bordering on the irrational now.  How feasible is it for a government Minister... or even a delegate to go out and visit every needy person in TnT when a letter from that person can easily get the ball rolling?  Besides, anybody can stage a picture... as well they can lie in a letter, but at least with a letter you have their words to use against them in case the lie ever gets uncovered.  With just a picture it may be harder to prove a deliberate attempt to mislead.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Touches on May 20, 2010, 08:07:03 AM
For those not in TT...racism has reared it's ugly head and it is truly shocking to hear the comments made by people on the street.

From both sides

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 20, 2010, 08:16:09 AM
For those not in TT...racism has reared it's ugly head and it is truly shocking to hear the comments made by people on the street.

From both sides



Yep. I rel fraid for next week. I feeling like dis place going and explode.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: mukumsplau on May 20, 2010, 08:53:39 AM
For those not in TT...racism has reared it's ugly head and it is truly shocking to hear the comments made by people on the street.

From both sides



u shud check d Team Alphabet facebook page..my word if u seed racist nasty comments on there...well that was wen i saw it bout a 3 weeks ago...i aint kno if they clean it up since then...tings relly ridiculous
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 20, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
Mrs John why does she have to write a letter describing anything... look at the pics or visit the woman...

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2010/05/19/mom-2-kids-live-fowl-pen

Come on man... allyuh criticism of any and everything 'government' bordering on the irrational now.  How feasible is it for a government Minister... or even a delegate to go out and visit every needy person in TnT when a letter from that person can easily get the ball rolling?  Besides, anybody can stage a picture... as well they can lie in a letter, but at least with a letter you have their words to use against them in case the lie ever gets uncovered.  With just a picture it may be harder to prove a deliberate attempt to mislead.
I work in the public service. We have rules and procedures designed to ensure accountability and relative efficiency. Sometimes when there is a special case you still need to operate within the rules, even if that means accelerating the process you still have to go through it.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 20, 2010, 12:22:29 PM
For those not in TT...racism has reared it's ugly head and it is truly shocking to hear the comments made by people on the street.

From both sides



so give me some examples of what is being said in a nutshell? i havent heard about any racist remarks from the ground from people back home, however i am not doubting you and there probably is but it would be good to know what is being said and how politics has divided the nation even further
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: mukumsplau on May 20, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
d illuminati jus lovin every minute ah dis
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 12:42:28 PM
For those not in TT...racism has reared it's ugly head and it is truly shocking to hear the comments made by people on the street.

From both sides



Yep. I rel fraid for next week. I feeling like dis place going and explode.

No explosion eh go take place dat is what peeps what but nutten go happen. If UNC eh win dey go do like in 2002 dey go put dey tail dey tail between dey leg and probably doh come and sell in d market 4 ah few days.

If PNM eh win nobody gob shock and evry body will go bout dey business.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 12:45:18 PM
'Vex' vote could see TNT moving in  a catastrophic direction of further degradation. The xisiting opposition  parties are sitting in the best position because  what is presently ruling is taking a lot of  'heat' and major discontentment is apparent.

However the electorates could simply vote out the ruler in his constituency riding; rule out the minister of security and let's move on from there.

When allyuh go in that booth THINK twice as to whether or not these so call opposition parities are selling you a bag of hot air and fruitless promises.

Right now AB people just fed up and doh give ah ass what Kamla and her posse planning for the nation. People just want Manning OUT. And they will tell you in your face, that they voting for the coalition just to get Manning out.  Simple!

Simple as u say wit all d free education peeps dunce no tail. So Manning gone all will b well. I will neva 4get when manning came 2 power in 1991 he give dem back deh 10%  but Income Tax went up 2 35% mankind cuss. Then Panday tell dem a debt is a debt and it must b paid in cash is when Manning get back in power d arreas was settle so let dem get rid ah Manning and we will b dancin in d streets from d 31st give she ahwk 2 put d kitchen cabinet 2gether.

You don't seem to understand that it is not about whether all will be well with the country when manning out. The fact of the matter is no one wants to give that swell headed idiot and his acolytes any kind of caution for his (their) misguided delusions of grandeur, blatant disregard to the concerns of the citizenry, and complete refusal to accept the error of their ways.

What you have is an (essentially with a few notable exceptions) popular (or at least populist) policy being implemented by a decidedly unpopular government.

Is not just Manning have to go: I would throw Marlene, Emily, Colm, Martin, Conrad, Karen, Hazel (and possibly Amery) under the bus as well. Is just that getting rid of Patos is the fastest way to get that clearing out done - all ah them could lose their seat and then still get put back as senator ministers (Martin, Conrad, Emily and Hazel not even going up)

now if only the coalition didn't make me steups every other hour I wouldn't be flipping this coin...

I willing 2 throw all dem under d bus but dat eh what peeps sayin dey sayin get rid ah Manning. D only ting is that d next set ah drivers eh no betta.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 20, 2010, 01:09:18 PM
d illuminati jus lovin every minute ah dis

Who??  The ones that summon Patos to come up Goodwood Park about two months ago??.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 20, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
For those not in TT...racism has reared it's ugly head and it is truly shocking to hear the comments made by people on the street.

From both sides



Yep. I rel fraid for next week. I feeling like dis place going and explode.

No explosion eh go take place dat is what peeps what but nutten go happen. If UNC eh win dey go do like in 2002 dey go put dey tail dey tail between dey leg and probably doh come and sell in d market 4 ah few days.

If PNM eh win nobody gob shock and evry body will go bout dey business.

people must stay away from race and start to think about the management of the nation, this race issue is getting old in tt, all races suffer when there is an incompetent govt.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Touches on May 20, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 20, 2010, 02:12:25 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



agree 100% with you family, you are one fellah who i respect in terms of what happening on the ground.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 02:58:37 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



I glad 4 dem tue is ah normal day go 2 d people wuk.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 20, 2010, 05:23:25 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



yuh eh lie at all dey touches.  right now some relationships i have with some of my indian friends more or less strained. i am shocked to hear d racist things they sayin and some of the posts that they put on facebook, when jus a couple of months ago everybody limin and lovin one another. dis election really upsetting and i cant wait for it to be over an done with.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 20, 2010, 05:27:42 PM
Mrs John why does she have to write a letter describing anything... look at the pics or visit the woman...

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2010/05/19/mom-2-kids-live-fowl-pen

Come on man... allyuh criticism of any and everything 'government' bordering on the irrational now.  How feasible is it for a government Minister... or even a delegate to go out and visit every needy person in TnT when a letter from that person can easily get the ball rolling?  Besides, anybody can stage a picture... as well they can lie in a letter, but at least with a letter you have their words to use against them in case the lie ever gets uncovered.  With just a picture it may be harder to prove a deliberate attempt to mislead.
I work in the public service. We have rules and procedures designed to ensure accountability and relative efficiency. Sometimes when there is a special case you still need to operate within the rules, even if that means accelerating the process you still have to go through it.
I agree that the system of filling out the required forms should be followed even though the family is clearly in dire straits
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 20, 2010, 05:30:59 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.


There has to be some sort of Plan instituded to Lift the EI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence) of the general population over a certain period of time in the future
untill then the average person on the street "spinnin top in mud" as far as attaining maturity
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 05:35:28 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



yuh eh lie at all dey touches.  right now some relationships i have with some of my indian friends more or less strained. i am shocked to hear d racist things they sayin and some of the posts that they put on facebook, when jus a couple of months ago everybody limin and lovin one another. dis election really upsetting and i cant wait for it to be over an done with.


Yuh true colours does show durin adversity so dem was racist all d time. So duck dem from tue.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 20, 2010, 05:38:33 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



yuh eh lie at all dey touches.  right now some relationships i have with some of my indian friends more or less strained. i am shocked to hear d racist things they sayin and some of the posts that they put on facebook, when jus a couple of months ago everybody limin and lovin one another. dis election really upsetting and i cant wait for it to be over an done with.


Yuh true colours does show durin adversity so dem was racist all d time. So duck dem from tue.
well said Weary
sometimes it is a ruse to give you a false sense of security
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on May 20, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
Touches, iz long time i tellin allyuh TNT divided! when i was there it had nayger coolie and whitey neighborhood!

in tobago man still carrying feelings for trinis, if yuhs ah trini and yuh go there for wuk, ppl does be grumbling bout " how dis trini come here juss so and get wuk before we". big man watching lil boy and cussin yuh BC yuh from trinidad saying " allyuh trini does feel allyuh better than we, and allyuh doh recognize we!".

 i remember the last time i visit family there, i went tuh get ah rental and every company blank meh, then meh cousin went and get approval from every rental company, and he wasn't familiar with ah single company.

is yrs TNT ppl divided like dat, me eh surprise! the thing yuh describe with the free maxi and $200 bribe eh nutten new, back in the days that was dubbed as rum and roti politics, donkey yrs now!

in the end, dem dummies would put the incumbent party back in power BC trinis are only interested in instant gratification! these ppl have no clue as to what the issues are and even more clueless in regard to long term benefits.  

i would really like yuh see TNT cleaned up, and ah greater effort to curb crime and the eradication of gangs on the whole!

i would also like tuh see @ least ah TNT appealant court, and ah revamping of the justice system, no more privy council! and i was really pleased tuh hear kamla address this as one of her priorities.

patos on the other hand failed terribly in this regard! he didn't give ah galant effort towards pressing quality of life domestic issues, crime, inflation, basic infrastructure such as accessable water and sewage upgrades (in house running water and bathrooms).

imagine in this day and age ppl still bathing by stand pipes, bringing water and sharing one solitary latrine! in ah country with billions and billions of annual revenue! that's simply ridiculous and unacceptable!

i say give the coalition ah chance, after all, they cyar do no worst than what's being done/ not being done, and we need new ideas.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 20, 2010, 05:50:54 PM
Touches, iz long time i tellin allyuh TNT divided! when i was there it had nayger coolie and whitey neighborhood!

in tobago man still carrying feelings for trinis, if yuhs ah trini and yuh go there for wuk, ppl does be grumbling bout " how dis trini come here juss so and get wuk before we". big man watching lil boy and cussin yuh BC yuh from trinidad saying " allyuh trini does feel allyuh better than we, and allyuh doh recognize we!".

 i remember the last time i visit family there, i went tuh get ah rental and every company blank meh, then meh cousin went and get approval from every rental company, and he wasn't familiar with ah single company.

is yrs TNT ppl divided like dat, me eh surprise! the thing yuh describe with the free maxi and $200 bribe eh nutten new, back in the days that was dubbed as rum and roti politics, donkey yrs now!

in the end, dem dummies would put the incumbent party back in power BC trinis are only interested in instant gratification! these ppl have no clue as to what the issues are and even more clueless in regard to long term benefits.  

i would really like yuh see TNT cleaned up, and ah greater effort to curb crime and the eradication of gangs on the whole!

i would also like tuh see @ least ah TNT appealant court, and ah revamping of the justice system, no more privy council! and i was really pleased tuh hear kamla address this as one of her priorities.

patos on the other hand failed terribly in this regard! he didn't give ah galant effort towards pressing quality of life domestic issues, crime, inflation, basic infrastructure such as accessable water and sewage upgrades (in house running water and bathrooms).

imagine in this day and age ppl still bathing by stand pipes, bringing water and sharing one solitary latrine! in ah country with billions and billions of annual revenue! that's simply ridiculous and unacceptable!

i say give the coalition ah chance, after all, they cyar do no worst than what's being done/ not being done, and we need new ideas.
Just Cool, where in the great USA you will find any of those things ya mention there
NOWHERE
it real sad that no government past or present had the intestinal fortitude to do the things that you asking for
NOT ONE
from colonial days on up
I too ask for the same things and my pet peeve in good roads
Ya ever drive between princess town and Mayaro??
Lawd dont drive dat....that road REAL bad
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 20, 2010, 06:00:02 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



yuh eh lie at all dey touches.  right now some relationships i have with some of my indian friends more or less strained. i am shocked to hear d racist things they sayin and some of the posts that they put on facebook, when jus a couple of months ago everybody limin and lovin one another. dis election really upsetting and i cant wait for it to be over an done with.


Yuh true colours does show durin adversity so dem was racist all d time. So duck dem from tue.

i eh waitin so long nah girl. i lock dem off already
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 06:03:47 PM
TI in the ideal world it should be so but it is not.

T+T has not grown up and matured.

Look at our leaders...not one good discussion, only mudslinging.

It starts at the top and dat is wha the populace like, lackaray and bacchanal.

Also there are many duncees among us. They will listen to whoever shouts the loudest and they believe it is so.

Their vote is had for a jersey, a softdrink or mauby a plate of food and $200 for each political meeting they attend. Maxi picking yuh up and dropping yuh home.

But it will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth and gums come next tues for plenty people down here.



yuh eh lie at all dey touches.  right now some relationships i have with some of my indian friends more or less strained. i am shocked to hear d racist things they sayin and some of the posts that they put on facebook, when jus a couple of months ago everybody limin and lovin one another. dis election really upsetting and i cant wait for it to be over an done with.


Yuh true colours does show durin adversity so dem was racist all d time. So duck dem from tue.
well said Weary
sometimes it is a ruse to give you a false sense of security

cosignnnnn
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 20, 2010, 06:10:43 PM
i have been listening to both sides of d platform and i cant say i have heard anything concrete plan from d coalition. other than free laptops for d children, what else d coalition comin wid? what is there vision? instead of kamla singing on d platform like if is a blasted talent show, she should talk about what d coalition plan to do. break down d manifesto, let us know what u intend to do and how yuh intend to do it.

ppl gettin tie up, manning eh go be there forever. colm, martin, hazel, dem eh go be there forever. as rowley say, vote not for who u like but vote for d policies pursued in your interest.  pnm make mistakes, yes, but in terms of solid governance, pnm outweigh d coalition any day. my two cents
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 20, 2010, 06:20:07 PM
i have been listening to both sides of d platform and i cant say i have heard anything concrete plan from d coalition. other than free laptops for d children, what else d coalition comin wid? what is there vision? instead of kamla singing on d platform like if is a blasted talent show, she should talk about what d coalition plan to do. break down d manifesto, let us know what u intend to do and how yuh intend to do it.

ppl gettin tie up, manning eh go be there forever. colm, martin, hazel, dem eh go be there forever. as rowley say, vote not for who u like but vote for d policies pursued in your interest.  pnm make mistakes, yes, but in terms of solid governance, pnm outweigh d coalition any day. my two cents
I tend to accept this view
but my fear is having AJW drooling over ALL that money in the National Treasury
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 20, 2010, 06:40:07 PM
i have been listening to both sides of d platform and i cant say i have heard anything concrete plan from d coalition. other than free laptops for d children, what else d coalition comin wid? what is there vision? instead of kamla singing on d platform like if is a blasted talent show, she should talk about what d coalition plan to do. break down d manifesto, let us know what u intend to do and how yuh intend to do it.

ppl gettin tie up, manning eh go be there forever. colm, martin, hazel, dem eh go be there forever. as rowley say, vote not for who u like but vote for d policies pursued in your interest.  pnm make mistakes, yes, but in terms of solid governance, pnm outweigh d coalition any day. my two cents

 :rotfl: Steupse this comment reminds me of what Panday supporters use to say about Panday and other UNC leaders to convince people to vote for them
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on May 20, 2010, 06:45:41 PM
i have been listening to both sides of d platform and i cant say i have heard anything concrete plan from d coalition. other than free laptops for d children, what else d coalition comin wid? what is there vision? instead of kamla singing on d platform like if is a blasted talent show, she should talk about what d coalition plan to do. break down d manifesto, let us know what u intend to do and how yuh intend to do it.

ppl gettin tie up, manning eh go be there forever. colm, martin, hazel, dem eh go be there forever. as rowley say, vote not for who u like but vote for d policies pursued in your interest.  pnm make mistakes, yes, but in terms of solid governance, pnm outweigh d coalition any day. my two cents
Geh meh some ah dat high grade nah girl? BC it seem like it working real good on you, i want tuh be in ah trance like state as you and is ah long time i eh get ah good smoke.

BTW, manning totally ignore the quality of life issues that has been plaguing the nation since 1990! is true the fella build highways and skyscrapers, create social programs mainly geared towards education and higher learning which is real good,

 but he totally ignore the fact that ppl was paying ah pound and ah crown for basic necessities , while bad man and gangsters was left tuh roam the place doing whatever they will without fear of recompense!

to me that was ah real brain freeze. tell me this, which would ah fella prefer, his kids to be educated or kept safe and fed? access to the best education while they their kids live in an increasingly unsafe society makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 20, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Manning make me hate PNM, i was a PNM supporter all my life. but sometimes u have to let go of the PNM till i die shit, and open yuh eyes to the truth. Fact is Manning play ass the past few years, arrogant bitch. One thing is for certain, if i had to vote, is not the PNM i voting for, i rather not vote than to vote he in again. Manning is the face of PNM, like it or not. i doh have crystal ball or patience to wait for he to step down. When people suffering all around me.

/END RANT -_- steam blown... carry on folks.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 20, 2010, 07:02:59 PM
nah JC, no high grade tonight. i jes statin my opinion after viewing d information from both sides. im not into d 'pnm till i die' bullshit. daiz not me. to be honest, i really fed up of dis whole election campaign across d board. but i jus cannot put my future in d hands of jack warner, an errol mc leod etc. cyah live wid myself if i do dat.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 20, 2010, 07:05:12 PM
the coalition manifesto is available online
www.coptnt.com


thanks i was looking for the link
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
Manning make me hate PNM, i was a PNM supporter all my life. but sometimes u have to let go of the PNM till i die shit, and open yuh eyes to the truth. Fact is Manning play ass the past few years, arrogant bitch. One thing is for certain, if i had to vote, is not the PNM i voting for, i rather not vote than to vote he in again. Manning is the face of PNM, like it or not. i doh have crystal ball or patience to wait for he to step down. When people suffering all around me.

/END RANT -_- steam blown... carry on folks.



Robbie was arrogant now peeps sayin he was d best ting since slice bread. So dat arrogance ting eh holdin no water by me. D man do nonesense BECAUSE HE PACK D CABINET WIT REAK JOKERS. Kamla as d option I in d pre steupsin phase fastly movin 2 d steupsin phase mon mor and d post steupsin phase right after I put d x by d baliser. Is a vote against Rambachan for SPIC/JW 4 robbin d warriors and 4 Kamla who did not approve a gfriend of minds gettin a wuk when she was Minister of ED she say not ... she is PNM. Not necessary a vote 4 d PNM
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Socapro on May 20, 2010, 09:08:51 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!
Plus I can't stand the thought of Jack getting his claws on our treasury after what he did to our World Cup Warriors!

Unfortunately Kamal & the UNC not yet ready to govern T&T and look after our interest especially with Jackula as their chairman, sad but true!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 20, 2010, 09:21:31 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!
Plus I can't stand the thought of Jack getting his claws on our treasury after what he did to our World Cup Warriors!

Unfortunately Kamal & the UNC not yet ready to govern T&T and look after our interest especially with Jackula as their chairman, sad but true!

Dat not relevant Manning arrogant.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on May 20, 2010, 09:22:23 PM
Buh a-a JC yuh change yuh chune????  uh was backing Mannign BIG time earlier.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 20, 2010, 09:24:57 PM
Sadly...right now..it looking like...until better can be done......let de worst continue.

Just like 2007.

*sigh*


Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 20, 2010, 09:35:47 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!

I really doh understand how people could say things like this.  but that's just me.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 20, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!

I really doh understand how people could say things like this.  but that's just me.
its called "Pnm til ah dead"..dont matter the opposition  :D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Socapro on May 20, 2010, 10:12:57 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!

I really doh understand how people could say things like this.  but that's just me.
its called "Pnm til ah dead"..dont matter the opposition   :D

No its called following what the candidates and parties are presenting and using your brain as to which is the least worst alternative!

I doh live or vote in T&T and in fact I have never voted for PNM so my view has nothing to do with PNM till ah head!

You also ignored my obsevation of the alternative so maybe you want Jack hands on T&T's treasury but I don't!
Sorry!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 20, 2010, 10:15:56 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!

I really doh understand how people could say things like this.  but that's just me.
its called "Pnm til ah dead"..dont matter the opposition   :D

No its called following what the candidates and parties are presenting and using your brain as to which is the least worst alternative!

I doh live or vote in T&T and in fact I have never voted for PNM so my view has nothing to do with PNM till ah head!

You also ignored my obsevation of the alternative so maybe you want Jack hands on T&T's treasury but I don't!
Sorry!!

i shared the same sentiment with the poster i quoted..i dont understand about the alternative looking much worse. like he said  "dont understand how people could say things like this"..like many die hards you cannot say what exactly look worse..however that is my opinion..you have yours..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 20, 2010, 10:16:22 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!

I really doh understand how people could say things like this.  but that's just me.
its called "Pnm til ah dead"..dont matter the opposition  :D

100 murders a year used to be a big deal.  Last year had over 500 and the Minister was boasting about how it was a decrease from the year before.   Done have 200 for this year alone I believe.  In last Friday's Guardian, Martin Joseph say crime is not a major issue in the election. (The same issue of the Guardian had Conrad Enill saying UDECOTT is not an issue in the election btw).

this government waste more money than any other administration in the history of the country and now they bold enough to start a whisper campaign about UNCOP removing GATE.  How much potential tuition money get wasted on all Manning's underutilized vanity projects? 200 years from we still wouldn't have gotten a decent return on all the money that get waste on the Tarouba stadium.

Some people impressed by all the skyscrapers just wait till the oil/gas money start to run dry. 

Last year when people was saying that the money they spend on the flag could have been spent financing medical expenses they say they didn't want to open the floodgates.  UNC promise a 100 million dollar fund, now in this morning (Thursday) papers I read that they promising to set up a 250 million dollar fund.

Local government elections were due 3 years ago but it seems like people ent even notice dat.  Patos say that the system need reform so we waiting till he satisfied before the next election. 

Manning say they can't release the gas price because they have to honour the sanctity of contracts.  Now, my question is: is it appropriate for a government to enter a contract that has a condition to hide such information from the general public?  the government is a proxy for the people.  What mechanisms are in place to hold them accountable?

but yeah, the alternative is much worse.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Socapro on May 20, 2010, 10:27:30 PM
The problem with not voting for the PNM is that the alternative looks much worst!

I really doh understand how people could say things like this.  but that's just me.
I guess you haven't been following the elections and what the parties have been presenting as their future plans and policies via C-TV and TV6 like I have been doing!
I don't live in T&T and recently voted in the UK elections so I have trained myself to listen to what the opposing parties are presenting as policies rather than looking at the personalities of the leaders.

Yes we can all agree that PNM can do better but you know what, the alternative looks much worst based upon my observations and what they have been presenting!

Plus to cap it all off, do you really want the corrupt hands of Jack on T&T's treasury after what he has done to T&T football over the years and to our 2006 World Cup Warriors just recently?

Yeah right! The grass may look greener on the other side but it is not!

Until better can be done I think its a safer bet to stick with what they've got and make stronger demands from the PNM to improve their performance in certain areas as we are all hoping and praying happens!

If T&T people foolish enough to let Jack have access to their treasury then I am sure his investment in funding the UNC for this elections will be well rewarded by himself to himself many times over!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 20, 2010, 10:28:02 PM
can't believe I forget the Scarborough Hospital.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 20, 2010, 11:08:39 PM

I guess you haven't been following the elections and what the parties have been presenting as their future plans and policies via C-TV and TV6 like I have been doing!

I live in San Fernando West, I couldn't not follow the campaign even if I wanted to.  I have access to all those channels and I watch the proceedings on a nightly basis.  I buy and read the newspapers every morning and I've even been known to put on the radio.  In fact, due to my specific location and the relevant acoustics I can sometimes hear political meetings by simply opening the window.

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I don't live in T&T and recently voted in the UK elections so I have trained myself to listen to what the opposing parties are presenting as policies rather than looking at the personalities of the leaders.

I will seek to train myself in a similar manner. starting tomorrow. 

The truth of the matter is that neither side is speaking much about what they are actually going to do.  This is an indictment of the populace at least as much as it is of the parties.  We want cliches, gossip and a decent selection of musical acts.

1. I've heard Manning rant about how he knows who told Panday about the election date in '95, about Kamla's political acumen, about how vilified and persecuted he is and many other things.  I've heard Rowley talk about how the party is bigger than any one person and about how the PNM will lose if supporters don't come out to vote in numbers.  I've heard Minister McDonald blame the coalition because someone circulated a picture of her on the internet.  So yes, Kamla isn't saying much, if anything, of substance but it's not worse than the PNM.     

2. Patrick Manning has chosen to make this election a referendum on him and his personality is major influence on how things get done in T&T.  Seeing that you live in the UK I hope you will agree that a British Prime Minister involved with a scandal similar to UDECOTT would have resigned and allowed another member of his party to become PM with their comfortable majority retained.
The, perhaps sad, reality of the situation is that simply promising not to steal as much money as the current administration is a valid campaign promise in our context.

3. I think if you listen to the COP candidates in their meetings they offer somewhat more substance at their meetings than both the PNM and UNC candidates.  At least in my opinion.

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Yes we can all agree that PNM can do better but you know what, the alternative looks much worst based upon my observations and what they have been presenting

I fully understand why people would have reservations about the ensemble that is the coalition: I have them myself.  However I stand by what I said before.  I've read your comment and the only specific thing you mention is Jack Warner getting his hands on the treasury.  I am looking at Manning's record with his hand on it and I don't see how things could get "much worst".
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 21, 2010, 06:56:06 AM
well my view is our polical system is rotten .....rotten to the core, and for weeks I was conflicted as to what to do with my vote ,but know I definitely know what I doin' wit mine, though be it with a heavy heart and conscience.....................the racist vibe I have been getting on the ground from indian people have come into contact with has pretty much made my mind for me...........................so much so that, I tell u what regardless of the result if anybody loss d key to dey brain and call me nigger or make any aggressive movement in my direction (alcohol induced or not) it will be ah horse of a different colour..........I shit u not!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 07:30:29 AM
People say that under Manning's leadership, you see the kind of apathy and disregard for citizenry that leads to more corruption, disenfranchisement and frustration of the public. These words can be used to describe the feelings of some under the UNC administration as well. We cannot forget the scandals and acts of corruption perpetuated under Panday's leadership.
 
But Manning will only go as far as we allow him - even those that surround him in the PNM must be made of sterner stuff and have the balls to stand up for what is right even if it means being unpopular and sidelined etc. It means that we have to get up off our laurels and instead of writing here on random thoughts, start writing letters to the editor, our parliamentarians, local government ministers, church leaders etc. Nobody can make us do anything without our explicit consent; that is the simple/profound truth.

If we would only spend time, attention and sufficient effort to raise people who are able to do the right thing...regardless...in our families, schools, communities etc, then we would see an improvement in the actions of our 'governement'. Remember that the 'government' is simply a microcosm of the wider society. If we want
that is the simple/profound truth.

If we would only spend time, attention and sufficient effort to raise people who are able to do the right thing...regardless...in our families, schools, communities etc, then we would see an improvement in the actions of our 'governement'. Remember that the 'government' is simply a microcosm of the wider society. If we want there to be more honest, fair-minded, ethical members of government, then we have to create that society, because it is the society that produces the government, not the other way around.

I don't believe in a top-down approach to society building; the power lies with the people. Some 41 members of society in 'government' do not have the power over you me or you to decide how we will live our lives. They don't decide for you if you want to be hardworking or lazy, ethical or dishonest, fair-minded or foul, loyal to country or not, safe on the roads, or speed like a damn maniac, put on your seat-belt or 'text' while driving, drive sober or as drunk as a fish1.
 
When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 21, 2010, 07:49:01 AM
People say that under Manning's leadership, you see the kind of apathy and disregard for citizenry that leads to more corruption, disenfranchisement and frustration of the public. These words can be used to describe the feelings of some under the UNC administration as well. We cannot forget the scandals and acts of corruption perpetuated under Panday's leadership.
 
But Manning will only go as far as we allow him - even those that surround him in the PNM must be made of sterner stuff and have the balls to stand up for what is right even if it means being unpopular and sidelined etc. It means that we have to get up off our laurels and instead of writing here on random thoughts, start writing letters to the editor, our parliamentarians, local government ministers, church leaders etc. Nobody can make us do anything without our explicit consent; that is the simple/profound truth.

If we would only spend time, attention and sufficient effort to raise people who are able to do the right thing...regardless...in our families, schools, communities etc, then we would see an improvement in the actions of our 'governement'. Remember that the 'government' is simply a microcosm of the wider society. If we want
that is the simple/profound truth.

If we would only spend time, attention and sufficient effort to raise people who are able to do the right thing...regardless...in our families, schools, communities etc, then we would see an improvement in the actions of our 'governement'. Remember that the 'government' is simply a microcosm of the wider society. If we want there to be more honest, fair-minded, ethical members of government, then we have to create that society, because it is the society that produces the government, not the other way around.

I don't believe in a top-down approach to society building; the power lies with the people. Some 41 members of society in 'government' do not have the power over you me or you to decide how we will live our lives. They don't decide for you if you want to be hardworking or lazy, ethical or dishonest, fair-minded or foul, loyal to country or not, safe on the roads, or speed like a damn maniac, put on your seat-belt or 'text' while driving, drive sober or as drunk as a fish1.
 
When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"



Cuz it easier to say Patrick Manning have to go! Typical trinis..never dem to blame for anyting. Doh worry...time june we go be experiencing utopia if yuh take on a certain platform.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Touches on May 21, 2010, 09:19:02 AM
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But Manning will only go as far as we allow him - even those that surround him in the PNM must be made of sterner stuff and have the balls to stand up for what is right even if it means being unpopular and sidelined etc.

Weary and that happenin when?

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 21, 2010, 10:13:16 AM
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But Manning will only go as far as we allow him - even those that surround him in the PNM must be made of sterner stuff and have the balls to stand up for what is right even if it means being unpopular and sidelined etc.

Weary and that happenin when?


u eh hear what the lady say a what? he eh reach far enough as yet to warrant her stopping him.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 21, 2010, 10:16:24 AM


If T&T people foolish enough to let Jack have access to their treasury then I am sure his investment in funding the UNC for this elections will be well rewarded by himself to himself many times over!!


so the treasury in good hands now? steups.....U think the pnm financiers wasnt rewarding themselves all the time over the 50 years?

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 21, 2010, 10:53:47 AM


If T&T people foolish enough to let Jack have access to their treasury then I am sure his investment in funding the UNC for this elections will be well rewarded by himself to himself many times over!!


so the treasury in good hands now? steups.....U think the pnm financiers wasnt rewarding themselves all the time over the 50 years?



its remarkable how blind people can be and ignore rampant corruption and still vote the same party back in, to me its not about governance with some on this board, its about race and they afraid to admit it.

when the unc under panday were found for their corruption, many individuals on this very board condemned it and made a big deal about it, now that the current admin have been found in even bigger corruption, there is silence.

that to me shows race is their main motivating factor in their decision. thank god i come from a mixed family, where i could point out right and wrong from both races and make a fair judgement as to which party actually or leader is a better bet for the nation.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 21, 2010, 11:23:47 AM


If T&T people foolish enough to let Jack have access to their treasury then I am sure his investment in funding the UNC for this elections will be well rewarded by himself to himself many times over!!


so the treasury in good hands now? steups.....U think the pnm financiers wasnt rewarding themselves all the time over the 50 years?



its remarkable how blind people can be and ignore rampant corruption and still vote the same party back in, to me its not about governance with some on this board, its about race and they afraid to admit it.

when the unc under panday were found for their corruption, many individuals on this very board condemned it and made a big deal about it, now that the current admin have been found in even bigger corruption, there is silence.

that to me shows race is their main motivating factor in their decision. thank god i come from a mixed family, where i could point out right and wrong from both races and make a fair judgement as to which party actually or leader is a better bet for the nation.

 :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 21, 2010, 12:21:50 PM

By Clevon Raphael  http://guardian.co.tt/commentary/columnist/2010/05/19/campaign-2010-ugly-side

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Campaign 2010: The ugly side
Clevon Raphael
Published: 19 May 2010
Clevon Raphael
Judgment day is just five days away. By this time next week a new government should be in place and all election activities would have abated with the country well on the way to breathing once again.

Today we are looking at some aspects of the campaign, the savoury and the unsavoury, so far. On top of the list, I am afraid, is the race card which, unfortunately, is playing out particularly in one party, even though there are some who would say this ugly phenomenon is being abused by all the parties. I beg to disagree and the offending people know who exactly they are. All you racist politicians who are proud of sowing your politics of hate and fear, you may try as you might but racist tendencies would never triumph over the love that we all have for our country. The racial bogey was somewhat tackled head-on after the 1986 NAR victory but unfortunately the experience did not go the full course and today we still have to contend with those of that ilk peddling their sick minds among the population. Thank God they are in the minority, although one racist is one too many.

It is pathetic to hear otherwise bright Trinis—one assumes they are—saying they cannot vote for this or that candidate because of their ethnic origin. I respect anyone who says they are unable to give their franchise to a particular party because they do not like its policies and things of the kind. However, I have been literally chasing away those who come to me with tribal crap because I firmly believe that we as a people are on the way to doing away with racial voting and to push that doltish head in 2010 is hypocritical and retrogressive. The results of the May 24 exercise would show how far we are really on the road to eliminating naked tribalism on voting day. Another aspect of the campaign I find very distasteful are the personal insults being hurled at various candidates by their opposite numbers. It is indeed silly and unproductive for supposedly intelligent men and women who are begging us to put them as leaders of the nation to be engaged in such unbelievable verbal abuse simply because they do not belong to the same political party.

Again this particular party started this unpleasant trend and, although not on the same degree, the favour was returned by platform speakers of the other major party. What does some woman allegedly trying look like the wife of the American President have to do with providing us with good governance for the next five years and beyond? How does describing one candidate with links to a rodent contribute to providing citizens with amenities and facilities we all expect from a government? Picong is a normal part of politicking and is good fare on the campaign trail but there are limits that decent people who are setting up themselves as potential leaders should go in their quest for high public office. Much ado has been made by the PNMites of the tearing up of their manifesto, which to me was another attempt by that party to divert attention, no matter how limited, from the real campaign issues. One of them went so far as to say it would encourage disrespect among the citizenry for authority. As if to say the attacks could be more ridiculous, another ventured that Kamla’s action could also influence people to commit acts of violence. Tut tut...

On Sunday night we were treated to an interview with the Prime Minister and although I have certain thoughts about that event, I would keep them private from the standpoint of being a journalist myself. However, one response by Mr Manning cannot be left unchallenged, which is when he said the initials “PM” on the drawings of the controversial Heights of Guanapo church could mean “project manager.” Manning is no architect or anywhere near other professions associated with the construction industry. But as someone intimately involved in the vast expenditure of state funds on mega construction projects, the Prime Minister by now should be familiar with at least some of the elementary terms in the sector. Additionally, he should know that a project manger only comes on the scene after a contract has been signed. I am not saying the Prime Minister told a blatant lie when he said “PM” could have meant project manger but one thing is definitely certain: we haven’t by any stretch of the imagination heard the last of this controversial church-building project.

At this time it is reasonable to assume that most voters have already made up their minds and are just waiting on next Monday to perform their civic duty. I am in that group and I am urging all who enjoy that privilege not to take their duty lightly. If you are going to vote on sentimentality or any other such vacuous reasons you might as well forget it. Voting is serious business and we must carefully weigh all the options given on the campaign trail and the news media to make intelligent choices.
The country’s future is at stake.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 21, 2010, 12:27:45 PM
its remarkable how blind people can be and ignore rampant corruption and still vote the same party back in, to me its not about governance with some on this board, its about race and they afraid to admit it.

when the unc under panday were found for their corruption, many individuals on this very board condemned it and made a big deal about it, now that the current admin have been found in even bigger corruption, there is silence.

that to me shows race is their main motivating factor in their decision. thank god i come from a mixed family, where i could point out right and wrong from both races and make a fair judgement as to which party actually or leader is a better bet for the nation.

So you's de only one here come from ah mixed family?  You's de only one God bless with impartiality tuh call right from wrong?  Why yuh doh hush yuh ass and give yuh bowels ah rest.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 21, 2010, 12:31:29 PM
its remarkable how blind people can be and ignore rampant corruption and still vote the same party back in, to me its not about governance with some on this board, its about race and they afraid to admit it.

when the unc under panday were found for their corruption, many individuals on this very board condemned it and made a big deal about it, now that the current admin have been found in even bigger corruption, there is silence.

that to me shows race is their main motivating factor in their decision. thank god i come from a mixed family, where i could point out right and wrong from both races and make a fair judgement as to which party actually or leader is a better bet for the nation.

So you's de only one here come from ah mixed family?  You's de only one God bless with impartiality tuh call right from wrong?  Why yuh doh hush yuh ass and give yuh bowels ah rest.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 21, 2010, 12:52:53 PM
TrinidadGuardian Poll Do you expect Election Day to be peaceful ?

As of today you can vote from the hompepage.. http://guardian.co.tt/poll/do-you-expect-election-day-be-peaceful
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
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But Manning will only go as far as we allow him - even those that surround him in the PNM must be made of sterner stuff and have the balls to stand up for what is right even if it means being unpopular and sidelined etc.

Weary and that happenin when?



Not goin 2 happen because TNT peeps not serious bout nutten. We here are d diehard football fans and we eh united to buy black juzzy 2 support d warriors. D ave Tri eh care bout nutten dat is y we in d sorry state we in.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
People say that under Manning's leadership, you see the kind of apathy and disregard for citizenry that leads to more corruption, disenfranchisement and frustration of the public. These words can be used to describe the feelings of some under the UNC administration as well. We cannot forget the scandals and acts of corruption perpetuated under Panday's leadership.
 
But Manning will only go as far as we allow him - even those that surround him in the PNM must be made of sterner stuff and have the balls to stand up for what is right even if it means being unpopular and sidelined etc. It means that we have to get up off our laurels and instead of writing here on random thoughts, start writing letters to the editor, our parliamentarians, local government ministers, church leaders etc. Nobody can make us do anything without our explicit consent; that is the simple/profound truth.

If we would only spend time, attention and sufficient effort to raise people who are able to do the right thing...regardless...in our families, schools, communities etc, then we would see an improvement in the actions of our 'governement'. Remember that the 'government' is simply a microcosm of the wider society. If we want
that is the simple/profound truth.

If we would only spend time, attention and sufficient effort to raise people who are able to do the right thing...regardless...in our families, schools, communities etc, then we would see an improvement in the actions of our 'governement'. Remember that the 'government' is simply a microcosm of the wider society. If we want there to be more honest, fair-minded, ethical members of government, then we have to create that society, because it is the society that produces the government, not the other way around.

I don't believe in a top-down approach to society building; the power lies with the people. Some 41 members of society in 'government' do not have the power over you me or you to decide how we will live our lives. They don't decide for you if you want to be hardworking or lazy, ethical or dishonest, fair-minded or foul, loyal to country or not, safe on the roads, or speed like a damn maniac, put on your seat-belt or 'text' while driving, drive sober or as drunk as a fish1.
 
When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"



Cuz it easier to say Patrick Manning have to go! Typical trinis..never dem to blame for anyting. Doh worry...time june we go be experiencing utopia if yuh take on a certain platform.

Nah not from June Tuesday
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 21, 2010, 12:55:12 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Socapro on May 21, 2010, 01:07:36 PM
its remarkable how blind people can be and ignore rampant corruption and still vote the same party back in, to me its not about governance with some on this board, its about race and they afraid to admit it.

when the unc under panday were found for their corruption, many individuals on this very board condemned it and made a big deal about it, now that the current admin have been found in even bigger corruption, there is silence.

that to me shows race is their main motivating factor in their decision. thank god i come from a mixed family, where i could point out right and wrong from both races and make a fair judgement as to which party actually or leader is a better bet for the nation.

So you's de only one here come from ah mixed family?  You's de only one God bless with impartiality tuh call right from wrong?  Why yuh doh hush yuh ass and give yuh bowels ah rest.

 :rotfl:

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 01:24:01 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.

When Manning gone then what?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 21, 2010, 01:45:15 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.


Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Socapro on May 21, 2010, 01:47:08 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.

When Manning gone then what?

Jackula takes over!  :nailbiting:

Lord please forgive some of my people but I know in the end you only giving them what they've been asking for!  :praying:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Socapro on May 21, 2010, 01:55:29 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.

That should definitely be the case if PNM loses!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 21, 2010, 02:01:41 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.

When Manning gone then what?
y would/should he go if he have the support?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 02:35:58 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.

That should definitely be the case if PNM loses!

All yuh doh understand d PNM as an organization. It is not 1 man 1 vote like d UNC. So d party grps eh like Rowley and he cyah win no party election unless Patos say he is d man.

He eh Manning choice so PNM get voted out d battle go b 4 Rowley 2 win d hearts ah d FAB who control d party.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 21, 2010, 03:13:20 PM
I found this interesting.

http://lyndersaydigital.com/brain/dump_files/punditry.html

People who “call the elections” usually have the capacity to do polls, come to the table with an extensive understanding of political history and degrees to match and enjoy some reputation.

I am not one of those people. Because I write editorial leaders for the Trinidad Guardian, I’ve spent a fair amount of time looking at the campaigns that have taken place in this country since the turn of the century and looking at the 2010 election in particular.

So here are my election predictions, based on nothing more than a casual remembrance of who these people are in public life, the general public perception of them and, frankly, what they look like in their photographs. I’ve limited my predictions to the candidates of the UNC coalition and PNM.

This is really a test of my theory that the majority of people who show up in a polling station with no strong commitment to one party or another make their choices on nothing more than one or more of my own criteria for judgement.
On May 25th, we’ll all know just how valid a process this might be.
Curious about my prior blogging about politics? Here you go...
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My punditry puts the election at 30 seats for the People’s Partnership Coalition and the elected representatives of the PNM in my crystal ball are a quite odd grouping indeed.

Please add your own observations using the comments below the post.

Constituency by constituency, the predictions...

Arima
Candidates: Laurel Lezama Lee-Sing, PNM and Roger Samuel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Arima’s a PNM stronghold and Laurel’s cute. I’ve never heard of Roger Samuel and I’m willing to bet that the folks in Arima haven’t either. Add to that mix the fact that Penelope Beckles has been undeniably gracious in accepting being stricken from the ballot and Lezama Lee-Sing is likely to keep the majority ballot for the PNM that’s been the tradition in the constituency.
Winner: Laurel Lezama Lee-Singh

Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Tough call. Alicia Hospedales is the incumbent. Anna Maria Mora is a strong contender with serious social intervention credibility. Expect a strong sympathy pull for Hospedales, who was doused in paint by a political dissenter, but Mora is well-known, capable and intelligent. I give her the nod.
Winner: Anna Maria Mora.

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Wow. Barataria and San Juan should love Joseph Ross, except that he’s so utterly bland and when he’s not, so reflexively unlikable that Fuad Khan has a real shot at taking this one home. Both men sport likeable public smiles and Joseph Ross has been the public eye a lot as Minister of Tourism, except that may not actually turn out to be an asset if anyone remembers what he’s been saying.
Winner: Joseph Ross.

Caroni Central
Candidates: Sheila Madoo Kurban, PNM and Glenn Ramadharsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Sheila! What you do them? Glenn’s walking this one home, sorry.
Winner: Glenn Ramadharsingh

Caroni East
Candidates: Harold Ramoutar, PNM and Tim Gopeesingh UNC-CoP Coalition.
Harold, dude, you have stones. I look at your confidently smiling face and squared shoulders and really wish you well. Tim’s smirk in his campaign photo is, unfortunately, well earned.
Winner: Tim Gopeesingh

Chaguanas East
Candidates: Mustapha Abdul-Hamid, PNM and Stephen Cadiz, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Ever since the populous Chaguanas constituency was split in two for the 2007 elections, Mustapha Abdul-Hamid has owned the eastern half. A sensible, articulate man, he has been a low profile but lucid participant in politics since emerging under the PNM banner. Stephen Cadiz has a lot of brand equity as a public voice speaking out for victims of crime. Abdul-Hamid is likeable, but his commodity rates low against the stocks of Cadiz.
Winner: Stephen Cadiz.

Chaguanas West
Candidates: Ronald Heera, PNM and Jack Warner, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I kept looking at Ronald’s photo. What could be going through his head? “Dude, I’m in a UNC stronghold, going up against the legacy of Hulsie Bhaggan and Manohar Ramsaran and the presence of the UNC chief financier Jack Warner. What, you expect me to smile? Okay, here.”
Winner: Jack Warner

Couva North
Candidates: Nal Ramsingh, PNM and Ramona Ramdial, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Nal, dude, great smile. You know this was Basdeo Panday’s seat, right? You know he’s not a candidate to split the vote, right? Okay, I’ve never heard of Ramona either, but... Nal, come back... You got the photo, right?
Winner: Ramona Ramdial

Couva South
Candidates: Anthony Khan, PNM and Rudy Indarsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Heyyy Anthony! Yes, that’s right, just sit there, nice pose with the chin up. Why Nal just stormed out? Oh just telling him who he’s campaigning against. Oh you? Just some guy named Rudy. Hah, Rudy in Couva South, imagine that, and he’s a trade unionist too, as if that will fly in Couva. Hah! Oh, Rudy stands for Rudranath? He’s a sugar trade unionist? Why don’t people tell us these things? You aren’t going to smile, are you?
Winner: Rudranath Indarsingh

Cumuto/Manzanilla
Candidates: Darryl ‘Japs’ Mahabir, PNM and Collin Partap, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Japs looks like this big strapping guy. I imagine that he runs a transport business and will occasionally lend a truck to help a guy out. Or he could just be a guy who just has a lot of jep nests on his property. He’s up against Harry’s son. Cumuto/Manzanilla’s a new constituency and it’s been UNC so far, so let’s see how the big guy fares.
Winner: Collin Partap

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Here are two people everybody knows. Anil may not be your cup of tea, but Karen’s a strong drink even for the experienced political imbiber.
Winner: Anil Roberts

Diego Martin Central
Candidates: Amery Brown, PNM and Nicole Dyer-Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Everybody knows these two, though their public perception is quite different. Nicole was our beauty queen when the UNC brought the Miss Universe competition to Trinidad and Tobago and Amery’s a generally well-meaning guy who, to his credit, looks out of place in the hardest parries of political repartee and rejoinder. But it’s Diego Martin and his work with the aged and challenged are likely to be a strong pull for older voters.
Winner: Amery Brown

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
If there’s anyone who’s more universally disliked than the Prime Minister in this election, it’s Colm Imbert, who is widely regarded as his facilitator in matters of public works. Nobody’s denying the value of the overpass and the water taxis executed under Imbert’s transport portfolio, but oh, the man sooo irritating.
Garvin’s largely a political unknown, despite contesting an election or two in the past, but he has one unerring advantage in Diego Martin North/East and that’s not being Colm Imbert.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas

Diego Martin West
Candidates: Keith Rowley, PNM, and Rocky Garcia, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Let’s see now. We have Keith Rowley, the man who faced down the entire infrastructure of the PNM in Parliament to blow the whistle on Udecott and precipitate the crisis of confidence that pretty much led to this election, a man that even annoyed PNM supporters hail as a hero, and we have Rocky Garcia.
Rocky, dude. Try and make up with Winston. He can’t keep asking you to beat Keith Rowley.
Winner: Keith Rowley.

Fyzabad
Candidates: Joel Primus, PNM and Chandresh Sharma, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I know Chandresh is a smooth talker and Joel has serious PNM youth league credibility, but my blood doesn’t ken toward either of these guys. Primus in particular, through his writing in the newspapers and speeches strikes me as exactly the kind of troubling apparatchik redshirt that the party has always been danger of breeding.
Winner: Chandresh Sharma

La Brea
Candidates: Fitzgerald Jeffrey, PNM and Ernesto Kesar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Labour’s a big issue in La Brea and its environs, but the PNM has been sensible about training people in the area for the jobs that are available in the heavy industries in the area. This has also been a PNM stronghold for decades.
Winner: Fitzgerald Jeffrey

La Horquetta/Talparo
Candidates: Nadra Nathai-Gyan, PNM, Jairam Seemungal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Nadra’s a powerful contender in this constituency, a new one since the redrawing of the boundaries that’s been PNM since it was created. Jairam, meet Rocky. You guys have a lot to talk about. Start by Googling “straw man.”
Winner: Nadra Nathai-Gyan

Laventille East/Morvant
Candidates: Donna Cox, PNM and Kwasi Mutema, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is one that’s going to be decided on the ground, but two more contrasting candidates one cannot imagine. The dashiki guy versus the colour contacts sistah.
Winner: Donna Cox

Laventille West
Candidates: Nileung Hypolite, PNM and Makandal Daaga, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is one of those seats that’s going to be a bellwether about the real mood of the country. The PNM dude or the NJAC dude? That’s going to be a real indicator of change. I’m guessing not. I’d love to be wrong about this, but, Daaga’s like somebody’s 70’s grandad, isn’t he?
Winner: Nileung Hypolite

Lopinot/Bon Air West
Candidates: Neil Parsanal, PNM, Dr Lincoln Douglas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Who is Dr Douglas? I hope that the people of this constituency know, because otherwise Neil’s gonna get a free ride.
Winner: Neil Parsanal

Mayaro
Candidates: Clifford Campbell, PNM and Winston ‘Gypsy’ Peters UNC-CoP Coalition.
Gypsy has brought Mayaro home four times out of the five elections since 2000.
This one’s going to be an uphill climb for Clifford.
Winner: Winston Peters.

Naparima
Candidates: Faiz Ramjohn, PNM and Nizam Baksh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Nizam’s owned this seat since it was won in the 2000 election by Ralph Maharaj for the UNC. Nobody from the PNM has won this seat since 1971.
Winner: Nizam Baksh

Oropouche East
Candidates: Christin Ramdial, PNM and Roodal Moonilal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Oropouche has been steadfastly UNC for at least two generations now. The split in the constituency hasn’t changed that at all.
Winner: Roodal Moonilal

Oropouche West
Candidates: Heather Cedeno, PNM and Stacy Roopnarine, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Oropouche, UNC stronghold. Will that hold true for a girl just out of her teens? Probably.
Winner: Stacy Roopnarine

Point Fortin
Candidates: Paula Gopee-Scoon, PNM and Nyahuma M Obika, UNC-CoP Coalition.
PNM through and through. Survived a representative who crossed the floor, and mouthed curses. Not likely to change.
Winner: Paula Gopee-Scoon

Pointe a Pierre
Candidates: Christine Kangaloo, PNM and Errol McLeod, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Until Christine came along, there hadn’t been a PNM presence in this constituency since 1991. Against Errol McLeod, who has a strong presence in this part of Trinidad and Tobago, it’s quite likely to swing back.
Winner: Errol McLeod  ???

Port of Spain North / St Ann’s West
Candidates: Patricia McIntosh, PNM and Annabelle Davis, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Annabelle’s got the social intervention credibility, Patricia has the educator history. Close call in a PNM stronghold. Will the legacy of the flagman tip things the coalition way? Hmmmm. No.
Winner: Patricia McIntosh

Port of Spain South
Candidates: Marlene McDonald, PNM and Giselle Russel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is the constituency in which I will be voting. I cannot imagine that Marlene McDonald will be returning to government because of the actions of my colleagues. I am not fond of this woman. Not her attitude, not her approach, not her manner. But this was the constituency of Dr Eric Williams and later his namesake, Eric Williams. The only time it left the grasp of the PNM was in the sweep of the NAR in 1986 when Teddy Guerra took the seat.
Winner: Marlene McDonald

Princes Town
Candidates: Annwarie Ramkissoon, PNM and Nela Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Generally a UNC stronghold. Split in 2007 into North and South, with Subhas Panday taking the north and Peter Taylor taking the southern end which was merged with Tableland. It’s one constituency again now. Likely to return to form.
Winner: Nela Khan

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat  ??? ???

San Fernando West
Candidates: Junior Regrello, PNM and Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Junior Regrello is the Eddie Hart of the modern PNM. An easy going guy who works hard, came up through the ranks, has strong credentials in a field entirely unrelated to politics and would be the go to guy for the voter under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances.
Winner: Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan

Siparia
Candidates: Vidya Deokiesingh, PNM and Kamla Persad-Bissessar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Kamla beat every set of odds raised against her. She slapped down Basdeo Panday and Ramesh Lawrence-Maharaj for the post of political leader of the UNC, stepped up to the role forcibly and clearly enough to rally virtually every party existing in opposition to the PNM into an unprecedented coalition.
Vidya, go give Nal and Rocky a pep talk. They need to understand that behind your smile are balls of steel.
Winner: Kamla Persad-Bissessar

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Verna St Rose Greaves  ???

St Augustine
Candidates: Balchandra Sharma, PNM and Prakash Ramadhar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
UNC seat. Prakash fills it admirably. Balchandra, the lime with Nal, Rocky and the boys is going strong.
Winner: Prakash Ramadhar

St Joseph
Candidates: Kennedy Swaratsingh, PNM, and Herbert Volney, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Two more guys I’m not feeling right about at all. Encountered Swaratsingh several times covering the IT efforts of the Ministry of Public Administration and everything about how Herbert Volney entered politics rubs me the wrong way. I don’t envy the voters of the St Joseph constituency having to choose between these two. Vote’s more likely to run on party than personality.
Winner: Herbert Volney  ??? ??? ???

Tabaquite
Candidates: Farouk Mohammed, PNM and Suruj Rambachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This used to be Adesh Nanan’s seat and it’s never really changed its paradigm.
Winner: Suruj Rambachan

Tableland/Moruga
Candidates: Augustus Thomas, PNM and Clifton De Coteau, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is a new constituency in a district which has tended to swing to the UNC.
Winner: Clifton De Coteau

Tobago East
Candidates: Gizel Thomas-Roberts, PNM and Verna Alleyne Toppin, UNC-CoP Coalition.
The ways of Tobago are strange but definite. Once Orville London took a stage to apologise for the failings of the PNM in Tobago and to call the annoyance of the crowd with the party on himself, personally, it was clear that something fundamental was wrong over there.
Winner: Verna Alleyne Toppin  ???

Tobago West
Candidates: Terrence Williams, PNM and Dr Delmon Baker, UNC-CoP Coalition.
People underestimate the power of TOP leader Ashworth Jack appearing in advertisements seated side by side with Kamla Persad-Bissessar and the other opposition party leaders and appearing on the campaign trail in Trinidad. What Tobago wants is parity and more with its sister island and the first step in that process is respect. That’s what Jack is demanding and Tobago will notice it.
Winner: Delmon Baker  ???

Toco/Sangre Grande
Candidates: Eric ‘Pink Panther’ Taylor, PNM and Rupert Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Toco/Manzanilla used to be PNM town. Only the NAR changed that. Toco/Sangre Grande is more urban, so it should be more so. The PNM now has its own calypsonian on the campaign trail in a remote district. I don’t think it’s going to work.
Winner: Rupert Griffith

Tunapuna
Candidates: Esther Le Gendre, PNM and Winston Dookeran, UNC-CoP Coalition.
The only person of Indian descent to ever win the Tunapuna seat was Dr Emmanuel Hosein for the NAR and his career didn’t end well. Winston Dookeran is an earnest, powerful name in local politics that’s all too easy to ridicule. Esther Le Gendre has had a spotty time of it since being appointed Minister of Education.
Winner: Winston Dookeran  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dinho on May 21, 2010, 03:14:55 PM
De ting gettin sticky icky....

Outside PM's residence:

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0199-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196.jpg)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 21, 2010, 04:07:01 PM
De ting gettin sticky icky....

Outside PM's residence:

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0199-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196.jpg)

nice artistic touch  :devil: ::)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 21, 2010, 04:24:52 PM
De ting gettin sticky icky....

Outside PM's residence:

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0199-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196.jpg)

nice artistic touch  :devil: ::)
Artistic touch at breaking the law and defacing state property.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 21, 2010, 04:37:24 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.



Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 21, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Artistic touch at breaking the law and defacing state property.

Nah man... it against Manning, so automatically that make it good.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 04:53:07 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.



Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.

Dat is d mantra. Manning is d problem so we get rid ah he all will b well.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 21, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.

Noted. 

I think in particular that Kamla wasn't a very good Minister of Education.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 21, 2010, 05:01:40 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.



Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.
you serious Jah Gol?
dese UNC ent easy atal atall
no wonder Jack LOVES them
This is a real desperate move by ALL opposition parties to come together, no matter what their current stance is, just to get rid of the PNM
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 05:30:49 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.



Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.
you serious Jah Gol?
dese UNC ent easy atal atall
no wonder Jack LOVES them
This is a real desperate move by ALL opposition parties to come together, no matter what their current stance is, just to get rid of the PNM

I was wukin police and d Police bills were UNC idea and then vote against it. I bet d DCP at the time that dey go vote against it and 1 d bet.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 21, 2010, 05:39:44 PM
its remarkable how blind people can be and ignore rampant corruption and still vote the same party back in, to me its not about governance with some on this board, its about race and they afraid to admit it.

when the unc under panday were found for their corruption, many individuals on this very board condemned it and made a big deal about it, now that the current admin have been found in even bigger corruption, there is silence.

that to me shows race is their main motivating factor in their decision. thank god i come from a mixed family, where i could point out right and wrong from both races and make a fair judgement as to which party actually or leader is a better bet for the nation.

So you's de only one here come from ah mixed family?  You's de only one God bless with impartiality tuh call right from wrong?  Why yuh doh hush yuh ass and give yuh bowels ah rest.

 :rotfl:

 :thumbsup:

haha ah strike a nerve or wha? last time ah check the board was free speech, the truth does offend ignorant fools who cant debate a topic sensibly without insulting. save yuh monkey gland raising for carrera nah :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 21, 2010, 05:42:37 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.

That should definitely be the case if PNM loses!

All yuh doh understand d PNM as an organization. It is not 1 man 1 vote like d UNC. So d party grps eh like Rowley and he cyah win no party election unless Patos say he is d man.

He eh Manning choice so PNM get voted out d battle go b 4 Rowley 2 win d hearts ah d FAB who control d party.

Can the PNM could change their constitution to make it one man, one vote??  Just asking....as an outside observer, I eh like that party groups thing....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 05:49:58 PM

When will we take personal responsibility and stop trying to use Patrick Manning as an excuse for all ills!!"


He is not an excuse for all ills.  But I find he have to go.  In fact he is one of the ills and I am taking personal responsibility for using my vote in the effort to put him out.
When Manning gone then what?

what you mean by that?  it only have one Prime Ministerial candidate? 

serious question(for anyone who wants to answer): what do you think can reasonably be expected to get worse (or better) if the PNM didn't win the election?

Or maybe you mean, within the PNM?

I don't know who going to win, but I would like to believe that if the PNM lose they will come under new leadership in the relatively short-term future.

That should definitely be the case if PNM loses!

All yuh doh understand d PNM as an organization. It is not 1 man 1 vote like d UNC. So d party grps eh like Rowley and he cyah win no party election unless Patos say he is d man.

He eh Manning choice so PNM get voted out d battle go b 4 Rowley 2 win d hearts ah d FAB who control d party.

Can the PNM could change their constitution to make it one man, one vote??  Just asking....as an outside observer, I eh like that party groups thing....

Cyah answer I is just a student of history and does watch how ting does unfold so when Kiethos challenge Patos I compared when PJ went up against Portia when I was in JA at d time so that is how I know bout d PNM. Me eh member ah no political party and eh likely 2 join none in d near future.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 21, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
Weary, what is the FAB?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 06:07:37 PM
Weary, what is the FAB?

Fat Ass Brigade of which Marjorie Bepatsingh is d leader. All yuh eh know d history of sweet TNT.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 21, 2010, 06:12:55 PM
Weary, what is the FAB?

Fat Ass Brigade of which Marjorie Bepatsingh is d leader. All yuh eh know d history of sweet TNT.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: right right

yeah, peeps on here does call that "Friendism" ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 21, 2010, 06:42:31 PM
@ Cana, girl I'm not sure how that fella came about his results, but he did say he's not a pollster so I guess that explains a lot.

In the absence of the great NACTA poll  ::)  ::), the next best thing I found was a poll Hamid Ghany did for CNMG.  He focused on the marginals.  The ones I caught were

San Juan/Barataria - People's Partnership
Tunapuna - trending People's Partnership
Lopinot/Bon Air West - trending people's partnership   ???  ???
St. Joseph - Too close to call. 

Dr. Ghany said it was interesting that the poll was able to pick up at least a result and trends in the other marginals but St. Joseph was too close to call.  I know the reason; HERBERT VOLNEY.....I'm willing to bet if he was not the candidate for the opposition that seat would have been won already.....

There was one other marginal in Trinidad that he discussed but I can't remember which one.  I remember that it was trending People's Partnership and it raised my eyebrows...

He said Tobago West is looking like it would be won by the TOP while Tobago East is too close to call.....which is really strange because I always felt that if the TOP won at least one Tobago seat it would be the East seat with a fight for the West....hhhhhmmmm....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 21, 2010, 06:52:20 PM
De ting gettin sticky icky....

Outside PM's residence:

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0199-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196.jpg)

Sad Sad day in this country's history...Sums up some Trinidadians...No respect whatsoever...To deface the official residence of the prime minister  is very low in my opinion...No wonder we in the state that we in today..!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 07:07:07 PM
De ting gettin sticky icky....

Outside PM's residence:

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0199-1.jpg)


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196.jpg)

Sad Sad day in this country's history...Sums up some Trinidadians...No respect whatsoever...To deface the official residence of the prime minister  is very low in my opinion...No wonder we in the state that we in today..!!

We like it so.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 21, 2010, 08:46:33 PM
Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.

Noted. 

I think in particular that Kamla wasn't a very good Minister of Education.

Like yuh fraid to say it. She was terrible. The same way she allowed students who couldn't make 40 % in common entrance to enter secondary school she wants to be promoted to Prime Minister.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 21, 2010, 09:22:53 PM
@ Cana, girl I'm not sure how that fella came about his results, but he did say he's not a pollster so I guess that explains a lot.

In the absence of the great NACTA poll  ::)  ::), the next best thing I found was a poll Hamid Ghany did for CNMG.  He focused on the marginals.  The ones I caught were

San Juan/Barataria - People's Partnership
Tunapuna - trending People's Partnership
Lopinot/Bon Air West - trending people's partnership   ???  ???
St. Joseph - Too close to call. 

Dr. Ghany said it was interesting that the poll was able to pick up at least a result and trends in the other marginals but St. Joseph was too close to call.  I know the reason; HERBERT VOLNEY.....I'm willing to bet if he was not the candidate for the opposition that seat would have been won already.....

There was one other marginal in Trinidad that he discussed but I can't remember which one.  I remember that it was trending People's Partnership and it raised my eyebrows...

He said Tobago West is looking like it would be won by the TOP while Tobago East is too close to call.....which is really strange because I always felt that if the TOP won at least one Tobago seat it would be the East seat with a fight for the West....hhhhhmmmm....

Well, St Joseph shocked me. I always thought Kenny was their breadfruit! I honestly didn't expect a great challenge from the judge. Sando West - Manning losing his seat? Ahtall!!
Anyway everybody predicating yes. I have this gut feeling that Manning coming right back. Nothing ain't changing, all the promises will be there for the next elections and my people still feting.

I wonder if the Prime Minister's residence have surveillance cameras? I want them catch that jackass who defaced the wall.  Set a damn example of them.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2010, 09:30:03 PM
Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.

Noted. 

I think in particular that Kamla wasn't a very good Minister of Education.

Like yuh fraid to say it. She was terrible. The same way she allowed students who couldn't make 40 % in common entrance to enter secondary school she wants to be promoted to Prime Minister.

30 per cent not 40 per cent is Hazel who let dem do it ovah.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 21, 2010, 09:30:42 PM
Education

The UNC neglected Teachers Training Colleges.  The PNM spent significantly to improve them and even increased the entry requirements of the service.

Technical/Vocational training. They neglected or discontinued  social programmes that assisted young people in this area.

The UNC stalled the passage of Police reform bills and anti money laundering legislation.

But Manning is a dictator so those things don't matter.

Noted. 

I think in particular that Kamla wasn't a very good Minister of Education.

Like yuh fraid to say it. She was terrible. The same way she allowed students who couldn't make 40 % in common entrance to enter secondary school she wants to be promoted to Prime Minister.

No I'm not afraid to say it: everyone that I trust to know about it better than I agrees with your assessment.  (I wasn't living in T&T at the time and honestly I wasn't keeping very close tabs on the situation).  I am also in favour of some PNM-supported measures: notably, I think we need TTRA and rapid rail.  

Overall, I still think the UNCOP is the better option.  Nobody is going to change their mind at this stage but I just find it hard to understand when people say things to the effect that the alternative will be much worse.  

When UNC was doing rubbish they get put out.  And rightly so.  I find the PNM has been even worse this time around.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 21, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
challenge from the judge. Sando West - Manning losing his seat? Ahtall!!

Patos in Sando East.

Sando West does seem to change MPs every election even when the party remains the same.  I think Junia Regrello would be the first to win the seat twice in a row since at least '81 if he wins.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 21, 2010, 10:32:31 PM
haha ah strike a nerve or wha? last time ah check the board was free speech, the truth does offend ignorant fools who cant debate a topic sensibly without insulting. save yuh monkey gland raising for carrera nah :devil:

You giving yuhself way too much credit... "strike a nerve"?  I juss refuse tuh give yuh ah pass with dat bullshit yuh talking.  You want to talk about who "ignorant" and "cant [sic] debate a topic sensibly without insulting"... yet you's de man who dismiss people  who refuse to support UNC-COP as being "racist".  What part ah dat "sensible"?  You want to talk like ah fool and yet get vex when people treat yuh like one.  Make up yuh mind what yuh want to do then we'll take it from there.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 21, 2010, 10:40:40 PM
Sad Sad day in this country's history...Sums up some Trinidadians...No respect whatsoever...To deface the official residence of the prime minister  is very low in my opinion...No wonder we in the state that we in today..!!

As Weary say... we like it so.  If yuh disagree with something the solution isn't just to oppose it... it is to attack it.  Yuh ent see how Alicia Hospedales get douse with paint juss cause ah next man vex wid PNM?

Yet we vex because Abu Bakr bun down de Red House.  How is this any different... because fire wasn't the implement of choice this time?  Man grinning and laffing kee kee... next time is de courts dey go start mashing up when dey eh get de rulings dey like.  Tings nice man.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 21, 2010, 11:24:35 PM
De ting gettin sticky icky....

Outside PM's residence:


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc62/trini_omar/IMG_0196.jpg)

Sad Sad day in this country's history...Sums up some Trinidadians...No respect whatsoever...To deface the official residence of the prime minister  is very low in my opinion...No wonder we in the state that we in today..!!

more like a sad state of security even the prime minister has. image how it is for a normal citizen.  Where is the security or even security cameras. You think anyone could do this to the white house and at Number 10 Downing Street in London without being caught?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Quags on May 21, 2010, 11:25:37 PM
4 more years baby,cmon.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 21, 2010, 11:25:42 PM
haha ah strike a nerve or wha? last time ah check the board was free speech, the truth does offend ignorant fools who cant debate a topic sensibly without insulting. save yuh monkey gland raising for carrera nah :devil:

You giving yuhself way too much credit... "strike a nerve"?  I juss refuse tuh give yuh ah pass with dat bullshit yuh talking.  You want to talk about who "ignorant" and "cant [sic] debate a topic sensibly without insulting"... yet you's de man who dismiss people  who refuse to support UNC-COP as being "racist".  What part ah dat "sensible"?  You want to talk like ah fool and yet get vex when people treat yuh like one.  Make up yuh mind what yuh want to do then we'll take it from there.

i didnt see you riding in on your horse when another poster agreed with me.

im merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the board and some of its posters, i support neither party, in fact to let you know how radical i am, i would vote njac every time above all the other parties. So you shouldnt be asking me the question of whether my statement is legitimate, you should ask the others who profess to want a non corrupt regime whether they are true to the improvement and prosperity of the nation.

i have no hesitation in pointing out the corruption of any party, especially the current unc, but they are not in office, nor are they faced with corruption charges while governing.

nor is it an endorsement of the party, i am merely an onlooker observing posters behaviors who claim to be unbiased. but in turn endorse a party whose corruption was uncovered, yet the same individuals acted much differently under other circumstances.


Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 22, 2010, 12:17:20 AM
i didnt see you riding in on your horse when another poster agreed with me.

Why should I respond to the follower who cosigning onto your bullshit when I could respond to both ah allyuh by refuting your nonsense directly? Yuh feel I have time to respond to every jackass braying in de night?  No, so consider yuhself special.

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im merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the board and some of its posters, i support neither party, in fact to let you know how radical i am, i would vote njac every time above all the other parties. So you shouldnt be asking me the question of whether my statement is legitimate, you should ask the others who profess to want a non corrupt regime whether they are true to the improvement and prosperity of the nation.

I didn't ask you shit and don't need to... you talking shit that yuh can't prove or substantiate.  You juss trying hard to to come off like some kinda straight shooter unafraid to ruffle feathers.  You in one fell swoop dismiss everybody who supporting PNM over UNC-COP as racist just because as you see it, both parties thief.  How de ass you know what going on inside anybody head?  You barely know what going on inside your own blasted head to try tuh say you know who's closet racist from who ent racist.  And then have nerve to talk about thank God you come from mixed family?  You remind me ah dem white people who forever trying to be down by telling black people about they late great granny on dey father second cousin side who also was quarter black.

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i have no hesitation in pointing out the corruption of any party, especially the current unc, but they are not in office, nor are they faced with corruption charges while governing.

nor is it an endorsement of the party, i am merely an onlooker observing posters behaviors who claim to be unbiased. but in turn endorse a party whose corruption was uncovered, yet the same individuals acted much differently under other circumstances.

Who is these mystery posters yuh talking about?  Call names and done... if yuh so "controversial" call dem out fuh dey racism, doh hide behind bullshit by raking in other people who refuse to support Kamla and she Lost Brigade.  Jack Warner is a thief and everybody who have eyes and care to see can see that.  Volney is ah next crook who making his bed next to Jack.  These are the "leaders" who Kamla putting up fuh election in she party?  She bounce she f**king head or what?  And what... because people ent want to support dem dey racist?  Look man rock so with dat bullshit yes.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 12:27:32 AM

link http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/21/mcleod-turn-guanapo-church-jail

McLeod: Turn Guanapo church into jail
Sascha Wilson
Published: 21 May 2010
Sascha Wilson
People’s Partnership candidate for Pointe-a-Pierre, Errol McLeod, has hinted that if it is proven state funds were used to build the controversial church on the Heights of Guanapo, it would be turned into a jail, if the party comes into power.

Speaking Wednesday night at a political meeting at Palmiste Park, McLeod said: “We are being told that the jails are filled to capacity. “I am sure one of the projects that seriously needs investigating is the Guanapo project, and when we find out for sure, when we confirm that indeed the building for Guanapo was credited to the palace, we are going to spend another $20 to $30 million to put jail facilities in Guanapo,” he said.

He also said they would put legislation, if necessary, to ensure migrant labourers were not employed at the expense of local workers and labourers. He also said they were committed to taking to opening training facilities for youths. He said there was a large percentage of the work force which were unskilled. “T&T used to supply welders, as we supply oil men, to Saudia Arabia. They were trained right here.”

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Quags on May 22, 2010, 12:38:11 AM
where he gonna train the youths in the jail ?
What he shoulda do was turn the Church into the school ,to train the youths ent .
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 22, 2010, 12:42:40 AM
i didnt see you riding in on your horse when another poster agreed with me.

Why should I respond to the follower who cosigning onto your bullshit when I could respond to both ah allyuh by refuting your nonsense directly? Yuh feel I have time to respond to every jackass braying in de night?  No, so consider yuhself special.

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im merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the board and some of its posters, i support neither party, in fact to let you know how radical i am, i would vote njac every time above all the other parties. So you shouldnt be asking me the question of whether my statement is legitimate, you should ask the others who profess to want a non corrupt regime whether they are true to the improvement and prosperity of the nation.

I didn't ask you shit and don't need to... you talking shit that yuh can't prove or substantiate.  You juss trying hard to to come off like some kinda straight shooter unafraid to ruffle feathers.  You in one fell swoop dismiss everybody who supporting PNM over UNC-COP as racist just because as you see it, both parties thief.  How de ass you know what going on inside anybody head?  You barely know what going on inside your own blasted head to try tuh say you know who's closet racist from who ent racist.  And then have nerve to talk about thank God you come from mixed family?  You remind me ah dem white people who forever trying to be down by telling black people about they late great granny on dey father second cousin side who also was quarter black.

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i have no hesitation in pointing out the corruption of any party, especially the current unc, but they are not in office, nor are they faced with corruption charges while governing.

nor is it an endorsement of the party, i am merely an onlooker observing posters behaviors who claim to be unbiased. but in turn endorse a party whose corruption was uncovered, yet the same individuals acted much differently under other circumstances.

Who is these mystery posters yuh talking about?  Call names and done... if yuh so "controversial" call dem out fuh dey racism, doh hide behind bullshit by raking in other people who refuse to support Kamla and she Lost Brigade.  Jack Warner is a thief and everybody who have eyes and care to see can see that.  Volney is ah next crook who making his bed next to Jack.  These are the "leaders" who Kamla putting up fuh election in she party?  She bounce she f**king head or what?  And what... because people ent want to support dem dey racist?  Look man rock so with dat bullshit yes.

haha your funny to read, up to now you havent addressed the other hypocrites on the board, special my a%$, you try to target individuals you personally dont like and you never addressed the other poster, every comment was directed to me, wheel and come again, your senseless mind games not working on me, your sounding more convoluted than educated.

once again this is not an endorsement of uncop, but yet you claim that i am an avid supporter, it seems like my comments hit home with you bc in your mind your vote is already decided or else you wouldnt be trying to attack like a rot when yuh only meowing.

it seems as though, only one party is a sinner, maybe you should be the man to caste the first stone. the only problem with that is the current admin is under fire, from what i remember unc not in power, but of course you cant point out the corruption of pnm bc you will be accused of being a supporter of the unc and chastised.

no wonder tt going down the drain.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: just cool on May 22, 2010, 02:34:18 AM
Buh a-a JC yuh change yuh chune????  uh was backing Mannign BIG time earlier.
Seriously bro, i never really liked the PNM, and i never really hated the UNC either, i just hated panday and all his racist following and policies.

i just think that for a small country as ours, crime should not be such an issue. IMO manning shoulda put an end to this nonsense ah long time ago, BC 1.5 million ppl eh nothing tuh manage! especially when yuh workin with ah land mass of 50 by 100 miles if so much.

i say give another party ah chance, after all, i doubt anyone could do worst. JMO.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 22, 2010, 07:45:19 AM
wheyyy, Jack real deadly boy...allyuh ent see how jack hand the man the money easy easy yeaterday in sando west, as if nutten happen..lol.lol :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 08:12:04 AM
wheyyy, Jack real deadly boy...allyuh ent see how jack hand the man the money easy easy yeaterday in sando west, as if nutten happen..lol.lol :rotfl: :rotfl:

Post d link nah
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 22, 2010, 08:16:34 AM
wheyyy, Jack real deadly boy...allyuh ent see how jack hand the man the money easy easy yeaterday in sando west, as if nutten happen..lol.lol :rotfl: :rotfl:
send the link to Jennings :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 22, 2010, 08:25:26 AM

link http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/21/mcleod-turn-guanapo-church-jail

McLeod: Turn Guanapo church into jail
Sascha Wilson
Published: 21 May 2010
Sascha Wilson
People’s Partnership candidate for Pointe-a-Pierre, Errol McLeod, has hinted that if it is proven state funds were used to build the controversial church on the Heights of Guanapo, it would be turned into a jail, if the party comes into power.
Speaking Wednesday night at a political meeting at Palmiste Park, McLeod said: “We are being told that the jails are filled to capacity. “I am sure one of the projects that seriously needs investigating is the Guanapo project, and when we find out for sure, when we confirm that indeed the building for Guanapo was credited to the palace, we are going to spend another $20 to $30 million to put jail facilities in Guanapo,” he said.

He also said they would put legislation, if necessary, to ensure migrant labourers were not employed at the expense of local workers and labourers. He also said they were committed to taking to opening training facilities for youths. He said there was a large percentage of the work force which were unskilled. “T&T used to supply welders, as we supply oil men, to Saudia Arabia. They were trained right here.”


Steups this party is ALL about the country ent...First the prime minister's residence going to be turned into an orphanage, now this clown talking about turning some church into a jail...They not ready yet..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 22, 2010, 08:27:18 AM
Ato Boldon is a UNC supporter......
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 22, 2010, 08:29:33 AM
Ato Boldon is a UNC supporter......
not only that
but he was a UNC senator
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 08:34:15 AM
Ato Boldon is a UNC supporter......
not only that
but he was a UNC senator

ENTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 09:40:12 AM
I've found a solution to make everyone (more or less) happy

Arima
Candidates: Laurel Lezama Lee-Sing, PNM and Roger Samuel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Laurel Lezama Lee-Singh No one is expecting anything but a PNM victory here anyway.
PNM

Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Alicia Hospedales. Paint Manufacturers everwhere will be in their glee
PNM

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Joseph Ross. Ross might come across as a complete ditz when he talks as the Minister of tourism but he might be one of the few PNM ministers who hasn't made everyone angry with him, and Fuad still represents old (dysfunctional) UNC.
PNM

Caroni Central
Candidates: Sheila Madoo Kurban, PNM and Glenn Ramadharsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Glenn Ramadharsingh No surprise here.
UNCOP

Caroni East
Candidates: Harold Ramoutar, PNM and Tim Gopeesingh UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Harold Ramoutar Gopeesingh is the "ethnic cleansing" and anti costaat man, right ::)
PNM

Chaguanas East
Candidates: Mustapha Abdul-Hamid, PNM and Stephen Cadiz, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Stephen Cadiz. One for the Civil Society
UNCOP

Chaguanas West
Candidates: Ronald Heera, PNM and Jack Warner, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Ronald Heera Most real football fans, all PNMites and 3/4 of the UNC will be happy
PNM

Couva North
Candidates: Nal Ramsingh, PNM and Ramona Ramdial, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Ramona Ramdial PNM doesn't care about this seat and everybody else who cares will be happy, except Basdeo Panday . That last part alone is a good enough reason for her to win.
UNCOP

Couva South
Candidates: Anthony Khan, PNM and Rudy Indarsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Rudranath Indarsingh No surprise.
UNCOP

Cumuto/Manzanilla
Candidates: Darryl ‘Japs’ Mahabir, PNM and Collin Partap, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Collin Partap Without the Pandays, the UNC can continue the fine Trinidadian tradition of political family enterprises. DOMA would be proud.
UNCOP

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Anil Roberts Few people like SPALK. No one, especially not CLICO clients likes De TaxSharer.
UNCOP

Diego Martin Central
Candidates: Amery Brown, PNM and Nicole Dyer-Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Amery Brown Even COP people would admit there's no contest.
PNM

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas Most non white Trinidadians, anyone over the height of five feet tall and a whole stadiumful of Grenadians will be happy to see Colm's dripping sarcasm finally take a hike.
UNCOP

Diego Martin West
Candidates: Keith Rowley, PNM, and Rocky Garcia, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Keith Rowley. Everybody except Manning will be happy. Yet another good enough reason in of itself.
PNM

Fyzabad
Candidates: Joel Primus, PNM and Chandresh Sharma, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Chandresh Sharma Please. Anyone that has Manning's blessing is a disaster in incubation.
UNCOP

La Brea
Candidates: Fitzgerald Jeffrey, PNM and Ernesto Kesar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Fitzgerald Jeffrey No surprise here.
PNM

La Horquetta/Talparo
Candidates: Nadra Nathai-Gyan, PNM, Jairam Seemungal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nadra Nathai-Gyan Even NNV candidates would be happy given this candidates somewhat similar initials
PNM

Laventille East/Morvant
Candidates: Donna Cox, PNM and Kwasi Mutema, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Donna Cox You don't mess with a pregnant woman.
PNM

Laventille West
Candidates: Nileung Hypolite, PNM and Makandal Daaga, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nileung Hypolite Tough call, but I think Daaga's ship has sailed. Well done good and faithful servant
PNM

Lopinot/Bon Air West
Candidates: Neil Parsanal, PNM, Dr Lincoln Douglas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Neil Parsanal No contest.
PNM

Mayaro
Candidates: Clifford Campbell, PNM and Winston ‘Gypsy’ Peters UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Winston Peters. For the sake of parity, we need a 2nd in command to Crazy in the Kaiso world to counter Aloes and Cro Cro's level of partisanship
UNCOP

Naparima
Candidates: Faiz Ramjohn, PNM and Nizam Baksh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nizam Baksh No surprise to anyone.
UNCOP

Oropouche East
Candidates: Christin Ramdial, PNM and Roodal Moonilal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Roodal Moonilal No one is expecting any different
UNCOP

Oropouche West
Candidates: Heather Cedeno, PNM and Stacy Roopnarine, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Stacy Roopnarine Young, female, non PNM Candidate. Always a winner in this place, in this time.
UNCOP

Point Fortin
Candidates: Paula Gopee-Scoon, PNM and Nyahuma M Obika, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Paula Gopee-Scoon The Boss' Mafia will be pulling hard as usual. No contest.
PNM

Pointe a Pierre
Candidates: Christine Kangaloo, PNM and Errol McLeod, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Christine Kangaloo  One of the brighter PNM lights, and Mcleod is too divisive to be a credible voice, even for labour.
PNM

Port of Spain North / St Ann’s West
Candidates: Patricia McIntosh, PNM and Annabelle Davis, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Patricia McIntosh No surprise in a PNM stronghold.
PNM

Port of Spain South
Candidates: Marlene McDonald, PNM and Giselle Russel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Giselle Russel Marlene is as unlikeable a candidate as they come. Off with her head!
UNCOP

Princes Town
Candidates: Annwarie Ramkissoon, PNM and Nela Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nela Khan No surprise
UNCOP

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat  Manning Must Go. Even die hard PNMites agree on this, just not in public.
UNCOP

San Fernando West
Candidates: Junior Regrello, PNM and Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Junior Regrello Grassroots, panman, blah blah blah.
PNM

Siparia
Candidates: Vidya Deokiesingh, PNM and Kamla Persad-Bissessar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Kamla Persad-Bissessar Really? What else?
UNCOP

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Joanne Thomas  No one likes a baldhead woman unless her name is Ripley.
PNM

St Augustine
Candidates: Balchandra Sharma, PNM and Prakash Ramadhar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Prakash Ramadhar What else?
UNCOP

St Joseph
Candidates: Kennedy Swaratsingh, PNM, and Herbert Volney, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Kennedy Swaratsingh Volney is too controversial for his own good.
PNM

Tabaquite
Candidates: Farouk Mohammed, PNM and Suruj Rambachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Farouk Mohammed The further Rambachan remains away from any position of power, the easier a lot of people sleep.
PNM

Tableland/Moruga
Candidates: Augustus Thomas, PNM and Clifton De Coteau, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is a new constituency in a district which has tended to swing to the UNC.
Winner: Clifton De Coteau No Surprise
UNCOP

Tobago East
Candidates: Gizel Thomas-Roberts, PNM and Verna Alleyne Toppin, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Gizel Thomas-Roberts Lets just do like King Solomon and split the child down the middle
PNM
Tobago West
Candidates: Terrence Williams, PNM and Dr Delmon Baker, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Delmon Baker  Ditto
UNCOP

Toco/Sangre Grande
Candidates: Eric ‘Pink Panther’ Taylor, PNM and Rupert Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Pink Panther PP is PNM's answer to Gypsy, and once a snake, always a snake for Rupert.
PNM

Tunapuna
Candidates: Esther Le Gendre, PNM and Winston Dookeran, UNC-CoP Coalition.

Winner: Winston Dookeran  Esther's hairstylist is annoying, her policy as education minister is constantly ovedrshadowed by Manning's constant attention hogging and you can't help but feel sorry for Winston...
UNCOP

No clear majority, so we wheel and come again in 4-5 months, to the glee of all calypsonians, chutney artists, fete promoters, truck and car rental companies, djs, printers, flower and t shirt salesmen etc etc

Niceness!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 22, 2010, 09:55:12 AM
I've found a solution to make everyone (more or less) happy

Arima
Candidates: Laurel Lezama Lee-Sing, PNM and Roger Samuel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Laurel Lezama Lee-Singh No one is expecting anything but a PNM victory here anyway.
PNM

Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Alicia Hospedales. Paint Manufacturers everwhere will be in their glee
PNM

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Joseph Ross. Ross might come across as a complete ditz when he talks as the Minister of tourism but he might be one of the few PNM ministers who hasn't made everyone angry with him, and Fuad still represents old (dysfunctional) UNC.
PNM

Caroni Central
Candidates: Sheila Madoo Kurban, PNM and Glenn Ramadharsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Glenn Ramadharsingh No surprise here.
UNCOP

Caroni East
Candidates: Harold Ramoutar, PNM and Tim Gopeesingh UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Harold Ramoutar Gopeesingh is the "ethnic cleansing" and anti costaat man, right ::)
PNM

Chaguanas East
Candidates: Mustapha Abdul-Hamid, PNM and Stephen Cadiz, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Stephen Cadiz. One for the Civil Society
UNCOP

Chaguanas West
Candidates: Ronald Heera, PNM and Jack Warner, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Ronald Heera Most real football fans, all PNMites and 3/4 of the UNC will be happy
PNM

Couva North
Candidates: Nal Ramsingh, PNM and Ramona Ramdial, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Ramona Ramdial PNM doesn't care about this seat and everybody else who cares will be happy, except Basdeo Panday . That last part alone is a good enough reason for her to win.
UNCOP

Couva South
Candidates: Anthony Khan, PNM and Rudy Indarsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Rudranath Indarsingh No surprise.
UNCOP

Cumuto/Manzanilla
Candidates: Darryl ‘Japs’ Mahabir, PNM and Collin Partap, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Collin Partap Without the Pandays, the UNC can continue the fine Trinidadian tradition of political family enterprises. DOMA would be proud.
UNCOP

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Anil Roberts Few people like SPALK. No one, especially not CLICO clients likes De TaxSharer.
UNCOP

Diego Martin Central
Candidates: Amery Brown, PNM and Nicole Dyer-Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Amery Brown Even COP people would admit there's no contest.
PNM

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas Most non white Trinidadians, anyone over the height of five feet tall and a whole stadiumful of Grenadians will be happy to see Colm's dripping sarcasm finally take a hike.
UNCOP

Diego Martin West
Candidates: Keith Rowley, PNM, and Rocky Garcia, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Keith Rowley. Everybody except Manning will be happy. Yet another good enough reason in of itself.
PNM

Fyzabad
Candidates: Joel Primus, PNM and Chandresh Sharma, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Chandresh Sharma Please. Anyone that has Manning's blessing is a disaster in incubation.
UNCOP

La Brea
Candidates: Fitzgerald Jeffrey, PNM and Ernesto Kesar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Fitzgerald Jeffrey No surprise here.
PNM

La Horquetta/Talparo
Candidates: Nadra Nathai-Gyan, PNM, Jairam Seemungal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nadra Nathai-Gyan Even NNV candidates would be happy given this candidates somewhat similar initials
PNM

Laventille East/Morvant
Candidates: Donna Cox, PNM and Kwasi Mutema, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Donna Cox You don't mess with a pregnant woman.
PNM

Laventille West
Candidates: Nileung Hypolite, PNM and Makandal Daaga, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nileung Hypolite Tough call, but I think Daaga's ship has sailed. Well done good and faithful servant
PNM

Lopinot/Bon Air West
Candidates: Neil Parsanal, PNM, Dr Lincoln Douglas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Neil Parsanal No contest.
PNM

Mayaro
Candidates: Clifford Campbell, PNM and Winston ‘Gypsy’ Peters UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Winston Peters. For the sake of parity, we need a 2nd in command to Crazy in the Kaiso world to counter Aloes and Cro Cro's level of partisanship
UNCOP

Naparima
Candidates: Faiz Ramjohn, PNM and Nizam Baksh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nizam Baksh No surprise to anyone.
UNCOP

Oropouche East
Candidates: Christin Ramdial, PNM and Roodal Moonilal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Roodal Moonilal No one is expecting any different
UNCOP

Oropouche West
Candidates: Heather Cedeno, PNM and Stacy Roopnarine, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Stacy Roopnarine Young, female, non PNM Candidate. Always a winner in this place, in this time.
UNCOP

Point Fortin
Candidates: Paula Gopee-Scoon, PNM and Nyahuma M Obika, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Paula Gopee-Scoon The Boss' Mafia will be pulling hard as usual. No contest.
PNM

Pointe a Pierre
Candidates: Christine Kangaloo, PNM and Errol McLeod, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Christine Kangaloo  One of the brighter PNM lights, and Mcleod is too divisive to be a credible voice, even for labour.
PNM

Port of Spain North / St Ann’s West
Candidates: Patricia McIntosh, PNM and Annabelle Davis, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Patricia McIntosh No surprise in a PNM stronghold.
PNM

Port of Spain South
Candidates: Marlene McDonald, PNM and Giselle Russel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Giselle Russel Marlene is as unlikeable a candidate as they come. Off with her head!
UNCOP

Princes Town
Candidates: Annwarie Ramkissoon, PNM and Nela Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nela Khan No surprise
UNCOP

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat  Manning Must Go. Even die hard PNMites agree on this, just not in public.
UNCOP

San Fernando West
Candidates: Junior Regrello, PNM and Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Junior Regrello Grassroots, panman, blah blah blah.
PNM

Siparia
Candidates: Vidya Deokiesingh, PNM and Kamla Persad-Bissessar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Kamla Persad-Bissessar Really? What else?
UNCOP

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Joanne Thomas  No one likes a baldhead woman unless her name is Ripley.
PNM

St Augustine
Candidates: Balchandra Sharma, PNM and Prakash Ramadhar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Prakash Ramadhar What else?
UNCOP

St Joseph
Candidates: Kennedy Swaratsingh, PNM, and Herbert Volney, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Kennedy Swaratsingh Volney is too controversial for his own good.
PNM

Tabaquite
Candidates: Farouk Mohammed, PNM and Suruj Rambachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Farouk Mohammed The further Rambachan remains away from any position of power, the easier a lot of people sleep.
PNM

Tableland/Moruga
Candidates: Augustus Thomas, PNM and Clifton De Coteau, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is a new constituency in a district which has tended to swing to the UNC.
Winner: Clifton De Coteau No Surprise
UNCOP

Tobago East
Candidates: Gizel Thomas-Roberts, PNM and Verna Alleyne Toppin, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Gizel Thomas-Roberts Lets just do like King Solomon and split the child down the middle
PNM
Tobago West
Candidates: Terrence Williams, PNM and Dr Delmon Baker, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Delmon Baker  Ditto
UNCOP

Toco/Sangre Grande
Candidates: Eric ‘Pink Panther’ Taylor, PNM and Rupert Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Pink Panther PP is PNM's answer to Gypsy, and once a snake, always a snake for Rupert.
PNM

Tunapuna
Candidates: Esther Le Gendre, PNM and Winston Dookeran, UNC-CoP Coalition.

Winner: Winston Dookeran  Esther's hairstylist is annoying, her policy as education minister is constantly ovedrshadowed by Manning's constant attention hogging and you can't help but feel sorry for Winston...
UNCOP

No clear majority, so we wheel and come again in 4-5 months, to the glee of all calypsonians, chutney artists, fete promoters, truck and car rental companies, djs, printers, flower and t shirt salesmen etc etc

Niceness!

My bredda making ah mint with he truck and music... he wukking PNM and he workers wukking UNC-COP elekshuns every 4 mts yes....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
I've found a solution to make everyone (more or less) happy

Arima
Candidates: Laurel Lezama Lee-Sing, PNM and Roger Samuel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Laurel Lezama Lee-Singh No one is expecting anything but a PNM victory here anyway.
PNM

Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Alicia Hospedales. Paint Manufacturers everwhere will be in their glee
PNM

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Joseph Ross. Ross might come across as a complete ditz when he talks as the Minister of tourism but he might be one of the few PNM ministers who hasn't made everyone angry with him, and Fuad still represents old (dysfunctional) UNC.
PNM

Caroni Central
Candidates: Sheila Madoo Kurban, PNM and Glenn Ramadharsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Glenn Ramadharsingh No surprise here.
UNCOP

Caroni East
Candidates: Harold Ramoutar, PNM and Tim Gopeesingh UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Harold Ramoutar Gopeesingh is the "ethnic cleansing" and anti costaat man, right ::)
PNM

Chaguanas East
Candidates: Mustapha Abdul-Hamid, PNM and Stephen Cadiz, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Stephen Cadiz. One for the Civil Society
UNCOP

Chaguanas West
Candidates: Ronald Heera, PNM and Jack Warner, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Ronald Heera Most real football fans, all PNMites and 3/4 of the UNC will be happy
PNM

Couva North
Candidates: Nal Ramsingh, PNM and Ramona Ramdial, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Ramona Ramdial PNM doesn't care about this seat and everybody else who cares will be happy, except Basdeo Panday . That last part alone is a good enough reason for her to win.
UNCOP

Couva South
Candidates: Anthony Khan, PNM and Rudy Indarsingh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Rudranath Indarsingh No surprise.
UNCOP

Cumuto/Manzanilla
Candidates: Darryl ‘Japs’ Mahabir, PNM and Collin Partap, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Collin Partap Without the Pandays, the UNC can continue the fine Trinidadian tradition of political family enterprises. DOMA would be proud.
UNCOP

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Anil Roberts Few people like SPALK. No one, especially not CLICO clients likes De TaxSharer.
UNCOP

Diego Martin Central
Candidates: Amery Brown, PNM and Nicole Dyer-Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Amery Brown Even COP people would admit there's no contest.
PNM

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas Most non white Trinidadians, anyone over the height of five feet tall and a whole stadiumful of Grenadians will be happy to see Colm's dripping sarcasm finally take a hike.
UNCOP

Diego Martin West
Candidates: Keith Rowley, PNM, and Rocky Garcia, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Keith Rowley. Everybody except Manning will be happy. Yet another good enough reason in of itself.
PNM

Fyzabad
Candidates: Joel Primus, PNM and Chandresh Sharma, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Chandresh Sharma Please. Anyone that has Manning's blessing is a disaster in incubation.
UNCOP

La Brea
Candidates: Fitzgerald Jeffrey, PNM and Ernesto Kesar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Fitzgerald Jeffrey No surprise here.
PNM

La Horquetta/Talparo
Candidates: Nadra Nathai-Gyan, PNM, Jairam Seemungal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nadra Nathai-Gyan Even NNV candidates would be happy given this candidates somewhat similar initials
PNM

Laventille East/Morvant
Candidates: Donna Cox, PNM and Kwasi Mutema, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Donna Cox You don't mess with a pregnant woman.
PNM

Laventille West
Candidates: Nileung Hypolite, PNM and Makandal Daaga, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nileung Hypolite Tough call, but I think Daaga's ship has sailed. Well done good and faithful servant
PNM

Lopinot/Bon Air West
Candidates: Neil Parsanal, PNM, Dr Lincoln Douglas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Neil Parsanal No contest.
PNM

Mayaro
Candidates: Clifford Campbell, PNM and Winston ‘Gypsy’ Peters UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Winston Peters. For the sake of parity, we need a 2nd in command to Crazy in the Kaiso world to counter Aloes and Cro Cro's level of partisanship
UNCOP

Naparima
Candidates: Faiz Ramjohn, PNM and Nizam Baksh, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nizam Baksh No surprise to anyone.
UNCOP

Oropouche East
Candidates: Christin Ramdial, PNM and Roodal Moonilal, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Roodal Moonilal No one is expecting any different
UNCOP

Oropouche West
Candidates: Heather Cedeno, PNM and Stacy Roopnarine, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Stacy Roopnarine Young, female, non PNM Candidate. Always a winner in this place, in this time.
UNCOP

Point Fortin
Candidates: Paula Gopee-Scoon, PNM and Nyahuma M Obika, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Paula Gopee-Scoon The Boss' Mafia will be pulling hard as usual. No contest.
PNM

Pointe a Pierre
Candidates: Christine Kangaloo, PNM and Errol McLeod, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Christine Kangaloo  One of the brighter PNM lights, and Mcleod is too divisive to be a credible voice, even for labour.
PNM

Port of Spain North / St Ann’s West
Candidates: Patricia McIntosh, PNM and Annabelle Davis, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Patricia McIntosh No surprise in a PNM stronghold.
PNM

Port of Spain South
Candidates: Marlene McDonald, PNM and Giselle Russel, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Giselle Russel Marlene is as unlikeable a candidate as they come. Off with her head!
UNCOP

Princes Town
Candidates: Annwarie Ramkissoon, PNM and Nela Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Nela Khan No surprise
UNCOP

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat  Manning Must Go. Even die hard PNMites agree on this, just not in public.
UNCOP

San Fernando West
Candidates: Junior Regrello, PNM and Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Junior Regrello Grassroots, panman, blah blah blah.
PNM

Siparia
Candidates: Vidya Deokiesingh, PNM and Kamla Persad-Bissessar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Kamla Persad-Bissessar Really? What else?
UNCOP

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Joanne Thomas  No one likes a baldhead woman unless her name is Ripley.
PNM

St Augustine
Candidates: Balchandra Sharma, PNM and Prakash Ramadhar, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Prakash Ramadhar What else?
UNCOP

St Joseph
Candidates: Kennedy Swaratsingh, PNM, and Herbert Volney, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Kennedy Swaratsingh Volney is too controversial for his own good.
PNM

Tabaquite
Candidates: Farouk Mohammed, PNM and Suruj Rambachan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Farouk Mohammed The further Rambachan remains away from any position of power, the easier a lot of people sleep.
PNM

Tableland/Moruga
Candidates: Augustus Thomas, PNM and Clifton De Coteau, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This is a new constituency in a district which has tended to swing to the UNC.
Winner: Clifton De Coteau No Surprise
UNCOP

Tobago East
Candidates: Gizel Thomas-Roberts, PNM and Verna Alleyne Toppin, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Gizel Thomas-Roberts Lets just do like King Solomon and split the child down the middle
PNM
Tobago West
Candidates: Terrence Williams, PNM and Dr Delmon Baker, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Delmon Baker  Ditto
UNCOP

Toco/Sangre Grande
Candidates: Eric ‘Pink Panther’ Taylor, PNM and Rupert Griffith, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Winner: Pink Panther PP is PNM's answer to Gypsy, and once a snake, always a snake for Rupert.
PNM

Tunapuna
Candidates: Esther Le Gendre, PNM and Winston Dookeran, UNC-CoP Coalition.

Winner: Winston Dookeran  Esther's hairstylist is annoying, her policy as education minister is constantly ovedrshadowed by Manning's constant attention hogging and you can't help but feel sorry for Winston...
UNCOP

No clear majority, so we wheel and come again in 4-5 months, to the glee of all calypsonians, chutney artists, fete promoters, truck and car rental companies, djs, printers, flower and t shirt salesmen etc etc

Niceness!

Yes a co-worker say wash yuh juzzy and hang it up
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 22, 2010, 10:58:00 AM
wheyyy, Jack real deadly boy...allyuh ent see how jack hand the man the money easy easy yeaterday in sando west, as if nutten happen..lol.lol :rotfl: :rotfl:

Post d link nah


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3mvJ6_9mbA
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2010, 11:14:42 AM
WAIT!, the person put Anil winning in D’Abadie/O’Meara (Arima)?  :D , HA!. i mean PNM aint my favorite choice right now, but here is PNM country, Anil will have to pull off a rel upset lol, best of luck my Spalker lol
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 11:45:14 AM

link http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/21/mcleod-turn-guanapo-church-jail

McLeod: Turn Guanapo church into jail
Sascha Wilson
Published: 21 May 2010
Sascha Wilson
People’s Partnership candidate for Pointe-a-Pierre, Errol McLeod, has hinted that if it is proven state funds were used to build the controversial church on the Heights of Guanapo, it would be turned into a jail, if the party comes into power.
Speaking Wednesday night at a political meeting at Palmiste Park, McLeod said: “We are being told that the jails are filled to capacity. “I am sure one of the projects that seriously needs investigating is the Guanapo project, and when we find out for sure, when we confirm that indeed the building for Guanapo was credited to the palace, we are going to spend another $20 to $30 million to put jail facilities in Guanapo,” he said.

He also said they would put legislation, if necessary, to ensure migrant labourers were not employed at the expense of local workers and labourers. He also said they were committed to taking to opening training facilities for youths. He said there was a large percentage of the work force which were unskilled. “T&T used to supply welders, as we supply oil men, to Saudia Arabia. They were trained right here.”



Steups this party is ALL about the country ent...First the prime minister's residence going to be turned into an orphanage, now this clown talking about turning some church into a jail...They not ready yet..

not some church but a church that is alleged to be financed by state funds
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 11:47:47 AM
So wait Ato Boldon being a UNC supporter or senator making the PNM die hards in here upset ?  :D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 22, 2010, 11:59:59 AM
So wait Ato Boldon being a UNC supporter or senator making the PNM die hards in here upset ?  :D
not is my case
I just pointed out a fact that I though somebody forgot about
This is a freee country where a person's opinions and idealogies are theirs to follow
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TdotTrini on May 22, 2010, 12:14:26 PM
Why these pollsters not giving us any real numbers for each constituency. I keep hearing who leading or too close to call, but no numbers.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2010, 12:20:51 PM
i have a question.. can a political party use state resources for election campaigning?

because i getting first hand reports of people getting calls from private numbers asking for them by name, then asking if they will be voting back PNM in power.

then friends of mine getting letters in the mail from candidate addressing them by name and talking to them as youth obviously knowing their ages. where do they get this info?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 12:29:32 PM
i have a question.. can a political party use state resources for election campaigning?

because i getting first hand reports of people getting calls from private numbers asking for them by name, then asking if they will be voting back PNM in power.

then friends of mine getting letters in the mail from candidate addressing them by name and talking to them as youth obviously knowing their ages. where do they get this info?

How dey get d priest credit card info? Somebody give dem so no different than when dey get yuh name 4 other purposes. Right here we had a thread wit peeps address and what constituency d in. How difficult is it for somebody at TSTT to give out peeps number and askin dem who dey votin for.

Y it have 2 b state funds?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Interesting read here from Selwyn Ryan.. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161672448&weba=NWSOpinion

Quote
The church on the hill and public integrity
Selwyn Ryan
Friday, May 21st 2010

Integrity - who has or does not have it - featured prominently in the election discourse. This preoccupation was sparked by the UDeCOTT Inquiry and Mr Manning’s refusal to distance himself from Mr Hart on the ground that the proper thing to do was to wait until the Commission had submitted its report. There was, however, widespread suspicion that there was more in the mortar than the pestle.

But the imperatives of the election campaign and the publication of documents sourced by the COP from the Malaysian authorities which indicated that Mr Hart had a case of perjury to answer prompted the Prime Minister to try and put some distance between himself and Mr Hart.

As he declared on the campaign trail, ’I cannot support breaches of integrity in the Government or anywhere else, and I don’t.

The one thing people know about me is that I stand for integrity and I have always stood for integrity in the conduct of public affairs. And the minute anybody breaches the codes of conduct and standards of integrity that are expected of persons in public office, they stand on their own. And if they have a case to answer, we will ensure that they have a fair trial and they will answer before the courts’.

Mr Manning’s behaviour in respect of UDeCOTT, however, suggests that there was some dark reason why he was reluctant to fire Hart or ask him to fall on his sword. He claimed, somewhat disingenuously, in a controversial ’interview’, that Mr Hart was attracting unfair and undeserved public criticism because he was a member of the PNM. He however conceded that Mr Hart may have done certain things without paying sufficient attention to process, and that he may have ’cut corners’ to get certain projects completed.
Continue.. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161672448&weba=NWSOpinion
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 03:17:08 PM
i have a question.. can a political party use state resources for election campaigning?

What you think funding all the Vision 2020 ads and the ads for all the under fire ministries that suddenly started popping up after election call?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 03:32:08 PM
What is amazing about this entire campaign from the PNM's point of view, is the complete and utter unrepentance vis a vis all allegations and proven instances of highhandedness, corruption, and demonstrated disdain for the rule of law and the concerns of the citizens of this country.

There has been no "Stay the course, we will correct the errors" or "We love you so we will try harder"

Just off the top of my head, UDECOTT and the church aside you have Enill questioning the people's right to have the information about the awarding of the public work contract AFTER IT WAS EXPRESSEDLY RULED that it should be divulged under the FOIA.

You have the decision to put up first , "the berm" to block off the Beetham squalor from Obama, Elizabeth and co and then the "security" walls, being made unilaterally and without any consultation

You have Marlene McDonald promising to explain about the Ministry of Culture bursaries, ducking out of it, and then promising to explain about it again AFTER the elections.

You have Manning pulling out files on Villafana in Parliament, telling the Opposition Leader that he has people watching her, Colm (who has no capacity to comment on the matter whatsoever) claiming the hit on Kamla to be a hoax (while the matter is under police investigation), Manning claiming to have been informed by the police of such (while the matter is under police investigation), Sarawatsingh telling Villafana to "Stop making a fool of himself because he is 81 years old" for exercising his constitutional right to express his political opinion.

This must be really PNM country. Cause it ent mine, that's for sure.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 03:39:25 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 03:44:31 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 03:58:55 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man

D otherside eh represent d beacon of integrity so is d devil and d deep blue sea. So d lesser of d 2 evil 4 me  is d PNM. If Anil can say wed d players was entitle 2 50% of  d net and sat say dey was entitle to 50% if dey reach d 2nd round and JW say dat dey get paid ahready.

As Johnny Cochraine say if u lie bout d lil tings u go lie bout d big things.

We eh gettin into all d scandals when dey was in power. Man sayin Calder Hart he is 1 man not Gopeesingh who avoid jail on a technicality/ Finbar Ganger/ Bas found guilty/ Carlos John b4 d court/Brian I eh take a vow of poverty etc.

So doh get on like is PNM till we dead thread is just dat some ah we say no 2 d Rising SUN and d Mottley Crew

l
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 22, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man

D otherside eh represent d beacon of integrity so is d devil and d deep blue sea. So d lesser of d 2 evil 4 me  is d PNM. If Anil can say wed d players was entitle 2 50% of  d net and sat say dey was entitle to 50% if dey reach d 2nd round and JW say dat dey get paid ahready.

As Johnny Cochraine say if u lie bout d lil tings u go lie bout d big things.

We eh gettin into all d scandals when dey was in power. Man sayin Calder Hart he is 1 man not Gopeesingh who avoid jail on a technicality/ Finbar Ganger/ Bas found guilty/ Carlos John b4 d court/Brian I eh take a vow of poverty etc.

So doh get on like is PNM till we dead thread is just dat some ah we say no 2 d Rising SUN and d Mottley Crew

l

endorsed!

an AIRMAN, i doh recall anybody sayin dey are die hard PNM in dis thread. we just statin we opinions. so stop tryin to start comess
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 22, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
why is only 'pnm till ah dead' people does get cuss up so??
ah doh hear nobody cussing kamla for being UNC till she dead..even when panday facing the courts, she right behind him each and every step of the way, sometimes she was closer to him on the steps than oma.


And check the spin....
If you is PNM, you is 'PNM till ah dead'
If you is UNC, you is 'die-hard UNC'

If people want to declare themselves as die-hards then let them be..them alone no how dey bread butter.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 04:49:46 PM
why is only 'pnm till ah dead' people does get cuss up so??
ah doh hear nobody cussing kamla for being UNC till she dead..even when panday facing the courts, she right behind him each and every step of the way, sometimes she was closer to him on the steps than oma.


And check the spin....
If you is PNM, you is 'PNM till ah dead'
If you is UNC, you is 'die-hard UNC'

If people want to declare themselves as die-hards then let them be..them alone no how dey bread butter.

U so correck die hard UNC a like d term.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man

D otherside eh represent d beacon of integrity so is d devil and d deep blue sea. So d lesser of d 2 evil 4 me  is d PNM. If Anil can say wed d players was entitle 2 50% of  d net and sat say dey was entitle to 50% if dey reach d 2nd round and JW say dat dey get paid ahready.

As Johnny Cochraine say if u lie bout d lil tings u go lie bout d big things.

We eh gettin into all d scandals when dey was in power. Man sayin Calder Hart he is 1 man not Gopeesingh who avoid jail on a technicality/ Finbar Ganger/ Bas found guilty/ Carlos John b4 d court/Brian I eh take a vow of poverty etc.

So doh get on like is PNM till we dead thread is just dat some ah we say no 2 d Rising SUN and d Mottley Crew

l

endorsed!

an AIRMAN, i doh recall anybody sayin dey are die hard PNM in dis thread. we just statin we opinions. so stop tryin to start comess

so because this is a different thread means they are not die hards when a poster/posters have stated they will always vote PNM til they dead in other threads ??
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 05:05:16 PM
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Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 05:11:21 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man

D otherside eh represent d beacon of integrity so is d devil and d deep blue sea. So d lesser of d 2 evil 4 me  is d PNM. If Anil can say wed d players was entitle 2 50% of  d net and sat say dey was entitle to 50% if dey reach d 2nd round and JW say dat dey get paid ahready.

As Johnny Cochraine say if u lie bout d lil tings u go lie bout d big things.

We eh gettin into all d scandals when dey was in power. Man sayin Calder Hart he is 1 man not Gopeesingh who avoid jail on a technicality/ Finbar Ganger/ Bas found guilty/ Carlos John b4 d court/Brian I eh take a vow of poverty etc.

So doh get on like is PNM till we dead thread is just dat some ah we say no 2 d Rising SUN and d Mottley Crew

l

endorsed!

an AIRMAN, i doh recall anybody sayin dey are die hard PNM in dis thread. we just statin we opinions. so stop tryin to start comess

so because this is a different thread means they are not die hards when a poster/posters have stated they will always vote PNM til they dead in other threads ??


LOUDDDDDDDD
STEUPSSSSSS
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 05:14:03 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man

D otherside eh represent d beacon of integrity so is d devil and d deep blue sea. So d lesser of d 2 evil 4 me  is d PNM. If Anil can say wed d players was entitle 2 50% of  d net and sat say dey was entitle to 50% if dey reach d 2nd round and JW say dat dey get paid ahready.

As Johnny Cochraine say if u lie bout d lil tings u go lie bout d big things.

We eh gettin into all d scandals when dey was in power. Man sayin Calder Hart he is 1 man not Gopeesingh who avoid jail on a technicality/ Finbar Ganger/ Bas found guilty/ Carlos John b4 d court/Brian I eh take a vow of poverty etc.

So doh get on like is PNM till we dead thread is just dat some ah we say no 2 d Rising SUN and d Mottley Crew

l

endorsed!

an AIRMAN, i doh recall anybody sayin dey are die hard PNM in dis thread. we just statin we opinions. so stop tryin to start comess

so because this is a different thread means they are not die hards when a poster/posters have stated they will always vote PNM til they dead in other threads ??


LOUDDDDDDDD
STEUPSSSSSS

 :D I dont know why Steupse feel offended with being called a "die hard"..she should be proud like you
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 05:15:33 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man

D otherside eh represent d beacon of integrity so is d devil and d deep blue sea. So d lesser of d 2 evil 4 me  is d PNM. If Anil can say wed d players was entitle 2 50% of  d net and sat say dey was entitle to 50% if dey reach d 2nd round and JW say dat dey get paid ahready.

As Johnny Cochraine say if u lie bout d lil tings u go lie bout d big things.

We eh gettin into all d scandals when dey was in power. Man sayin Calder Hart he is 1 man not Gopeesingh who avoid jail on a technicality/ Finbar Ganger/ Bas found guilty/ Carlos John b4 d court/Brian I eh take a vow of poverty etc.

So doh get on like is PNM till we dead thread is just dat some ah we say no 2 d Rising SUN and d Mottley Crew

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endorsed!

an AIRMAN, i doh recall anybody sayin dey are die hard PNM in dis thread. we just statin we opinions. so stop tryin to start comess

so because this is a different thread means they are not die hards when a poster/posters have stated they will always vote PNM til they dead in other threads ??


LOUDDDDDDDD
STEUPSSSSSS

an' yuh notice dey keep dodging d hate vibe questions an reasonings
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 22, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
Anybody who could support a party that include men like jack and Volney hadda be joking...!!! Volney have enough sins to bear far less for jack..I hope that when PNM win, they dig deep into Volney..!!
I not putting that on my conscience..!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 05:26:10 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 22, 2010, 05:29:41 PM
die HARD, UNC
:devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 05:30:04 PM
There are two parties going up for election.
One party has been in power for the last eight years~. And most if all would tend to agree that present course that nation has taken is not the right one.... and we must change. The second party going up for election formed the government for ~ 6 years prior before the current party came to power. Now this party had a checkered tenure in gov't and is accused of some underhand act ivies very similar to what the current govt is being accused off.
It is safe to say that both parties are less than desirable. However the party in opposition has elected a new leader and claims to be offering an avenue for change, yet their manifesto does not show how this change is going to come about.
So now comes the decision should I vote for the existing gov't,  some would call them lesser of two evils, even though I disagree with their policies, the same policies will continue if they are elected.  
Or should I vote for the party who has plans I know little off?  
Should we  tend to gravitate towards the opposition despite the unanswered questions on their policies.  Because we don't want 5 more years of the existing gov't and their policies.  Choose the promise of something different, a promise that may end up broken.
Is it possible to think of one’s  vote not as an endorsement for one,  but instead the disapproval of the other?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 05:36:48 PM
There are two parties going up for election.
One party has been in power for the last eight years~. And most if all would tend to agree that present course that nation has taken is not the right one.... and we must change. The second party going up for election formed the government for ~ 6 years prior before the current party came to power. Now this party had a checkered tenure in gov't and is accused of some underhand act ivies very similar to what the current govt is being accused off.
It is safe to say that both parties are less than desirable. However the party in opposition has elected a new leader and claims to be offering an avenue for change, yet their manifesto does not show how this change is going to come about.
So now comes the decision should I vote for the existing gov't,  some would call them lesser of two evils, even though I disagree with their policies, the same policies will continue if they are elected.  
Or should I vote for the party who has plans I know little off?  
Should we  tend to gravitate towards the opposition despite the unanswered questions on their policies.  Because we don't want 5 more years of the existing gov't and their policies.  Choose the promise of something different, a promise that may end up broken.
Is it possible to think of one’s  vote not as an endorsement for one,  but instead the disapproval of the other?


this post come like those shows on History channel about big foot....or UFOs......watch for a whole hour...real questions raised..but no answer in the end...an hour wasted.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 05:37:44 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 05:44:38 PM
There are two parties going up for election.
One party has been in power for the last eight years~. And most if all would tend to agree that present course that nation has taken is not the right one.... and we must change. The second party going up for election formed the government for ~ 6 years prior before the current party came to power. Now this party had a checkered tenure in gov't and is accused of some underhand act ivies very similar to what the current govt is being accused off.
It is safe to say that both parties are less than desirable. However the party in opposition has elected a new leader and claims to be offering an avenue for change, yet their manifesto does not show how this change is going to come about.
So now comes the decision should I vote for the existing gov't,  some would call them lesser of two evils, even though I disagree with their policies, the same policies will continue if they are elected.  
Or should I vote for the party who has plans I know little off?  
Should we  tend to gravitate towards the opposition despite the unanswered questions on their policies.  Because we don't want 5 more years of the existing gov't and their policies.  Choose the promise of something different, a promise that may end up broken.
Is it possible to think of one’s  vote not as an endorsement for one,  but instead the disapproval of the other?


this post come like those shows on History channel about big foot....or UFOs......watch for a whole hour...real questions raised..but no answer in the end...an hour wasted.



LOL , next time change the channel to FOX.
Sammy I doh live home, so I cah vote. Just trying to raise some question for voters to think about yet remain politically neutral.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 05:46:05 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

 And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 05:48:31 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

Let me guess u live south of d Caroni?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 05:54:43 PM


thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

 And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

when the hell did I say that indians doh get trouble from africans, and is not ah few imps, is ah shitload ah imps an when dey start and continue, and make dumb ass assertions simply because yuh black (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:bQFyGVfHuCrx9M:http://tothewire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/swastika-inverted.jpg) is pretty much d image dat enters my mind
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 22, 2010, 05:55:24 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 22, 2010, 05:59:19 PM
*sigh*  aaaahhhh yeeessss.........here we are with less than 48 hours before the elections and the thread finally threatning to disintegrate into race.....the more things change, the more they stay the same.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 06:00:58 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

who is "dem" ? u mean we indians? who pushing race talks now? u no better than the people who giving trouble.
Indians is dem and africans is we right?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 06:03:51 PM
*sigh*  aaaahhhh yeeessss.........here we are with less than 48 hours before the elections and the thread finally threatning to disintegrate into race.....the more things change, the more they stay the same.....


nah man....we could stop that.... ppl just have to stop making it look like all indians picking on africans and making that a reason to vote pnm
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 06:07:07 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 06:12:16 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 06:17:05 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.

ok Weary we now getting down to the heart of your anti-UNC issues  :devil:..what other experiences from 1995 you have..lets spill it all out so we can help one another move forward for a better T&T
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: g on May 22, 2010, 06:19:35 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Sammy,

Just a question, do you care to share some of your experiences about this suffering you are experiencing?

And I hope you don't think im being facetious, i just think of my own situation. Where i was 10 years ago and where i am now. I was never the recipient of any government handout other than the public utilities that everybody else gets. I went to school, i was able to graduate and acquire employment, i am trying to start my own business on the side. Everything aint perfect but at the same time i think of what i was able to achieve by my own valition and efforts and to ensure that i will not suffer myself in any undue way. If you presensent your case i will accept that. Please don't try to include other persons experiences in your case.

I want to know what are  your own sufferings.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 06:24:06 PM
Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.

Don't know about the doubles man, but in 2001 when I was studying abroad  oung lady said that she was going home after graduating now that UNC was not in power her job was assured.  Does that count????


It should not because everybody does not think that way,  and that Is what I choose to believe.  
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 06:28:51 PM
Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.

Don't know about the doubles man, but in 2001 when I was studying abroad  young lady said that she was going home after graduating now that UNC was not in power she was assured to get a job.  Does that count????
It should not because everybody does not think that way,  and that Is what I choose to believe.  


oh so you and Weary had similar experiences..the only ting different is which party won an election from a different year..hmmm
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 06:32:13 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid, but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, "we doh like yuh"...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty, eh, tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.

ok Weary we now getting down to the heart of your anti-UNC issues  :devil:..what other experiences from 1995 you have..lets spill it all out so we can help one another move forward for a better T&T

Friend racism alive in central prior 2 1995 and will b present till Christ return my issues wit d UNC eh have nutten 2 do wit race. My biggest beef is d voter padding and d ghost gang dat grew under dem that have d crime rate where it is 2day. Is UNC dat had d late Bill Francis as a candidate.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.

ok Weary we now getting down to the heart of your anti-UNC issues  :devil:..what other experiences from 1995 you have..lets spill it all out so we can help one another move forward for a better T&T

Friend racism alive in central prior 2 1995 and will b present till Christ return my issues wit d UNC eh have nutten 2 do wit race. My biggest beef is d voter padding and d ghost gang dat grew under dem that have d crime rate where it is 2day. Is UNC dat had d late Bill Francis as a candidate.


well you took your time to specifically mention 1995 after elections so was i wrong to assume your post was UNC related ??..and Correct me if i am wrong didnt voter padding started in the 1970's with Eric Williams and was continued with Panday in the 90's ??..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 06:40:08 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 06:44:09 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, we doh like yuh...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty eh tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 06:48:05 PM
Some how I neva hear bout anybody goin 2 a doubles vendor and eh pay and say is we time now. While in 1995 nuff maxi man complain bout peeps jumpin in maxi and say is we time now.

Don't know about the doubles man, but in 2001 when I was studying abroad  young lady said that she was going home after graduating now that UNC was not in power she was assured to get a job.  Does that count????
It should not because everybody does not think that way,  and that Is what I choose to believe.  


oh so you and Weary had similar experiences..the only ting different is which party won an election from a different year..hmmm

Yuh know  the strangest thing was that I did not remember that until just now  :angel:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 06:56:11 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 06:56:31 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid, but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, "we doh like yuh"...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty, eh, tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

ok. i cant put myself in your shoes so i cant really know how u feel or how strongly it affects u and u must do what u must.  :beermug:

Sometimes hard decisions have to be made and i know it may be hard, but weather u vote for kamla or not is not going to change those people. However, how u vote will affect u and your family in a much bigger way than whats those fools say to u.
U say the government doing shit, but how will they know or change or care if they know ppl will always vote for them no matter what? And that is the mistake a lot of ppl are making in this thread. They say pnm is the lesser of the evils, but thats just...they will always be evil unless ppl show them.
People falling into the same trap over and over.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 06:58:29 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, we doh like yuh...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty eh tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

wow...nice post..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?

What voter padding. Voter padding is willfully registering 2 vote in a constituency when u doh live dey. When dat happen in d 70's. Explain it 2 me.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?





pnm.  u eh know that?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 07:07:21 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?

What voter padding. Voter padding is willfully registering 2 vote in a constituency when u doh live dey. When dat happen in d 70's. Explain it 2 me.

yeh stay there and pretend you dont know about al the Grenadians and Vincentians that were given citizenship in the 70's in respect to voter padding..Now i dont really care about what happened much in the past because I dwell more on the present and future.. but since you find it necessary to bring up voter padding from the past under UNC/panday and failed to mention the voter padding in the 70's leaves me to remind you...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 22, 2010, 07:12:52 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?

pnm.  u eh know that?

an how u know dat? u do a poll within d chinese community ah wat?



Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?

What voter padding. Voter padding is willfully registering 2 vote in a constituency when u doh live dey. When dat happen in d 70's. Explain it 2 me.

yeh stay there and pretend you dont know about al the Grenadians and Vincentians that were given citizenship in the 70's in respect to voter padding..Now i dont really care about what happened much in the past but I dwell more on the present and future.. but since you find it necessary to bring up voter padding under UNC/panday and failed to mention the voter padding in the 70's leaves me to remind you...

Friend it is a fallacy dat PNM get Vincy and Grenadians 2 vote 4 dem. If dat is d case y did NAR gave an amnesty for all d illegals to get citizenship. U must not repeat what peeps say do yuh own research and find out d truth not d old wives tails dat become folklore in TNT.

Even if it is true dat eh voter padding done give yuh d definition ah dat ah ready. It eh d past it happen less than a decade ago dat Sadiq and co try 2 tief meh democracy.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2010, 07:16:06 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, we doh like yuh...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty eh tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

truth is I dont believe either party has the people's and I mean all peoples interest at heart.............is ah tussle for the treasury pure and simple..................... but, if dis was jus about some uneducated fools it would be one thing, but you get stories from people in the public service about wholesale removal of black people in public office, the last time dey was dere.................and not jus d vetoing of high level positions"for those coming hot an' sweaty to throw that" it was system wide and seemed to have no rhyme or reason apart from what was obvious

Is dispensation of the unc going to be different maybe......................but in my view d general sentiment of your support dont be to far from yuh own, even if not outwardly set forth.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 07:21:04 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?

What voter padding. Voter padding is willfully registering 2 vote in a constituency when u doh live dey. When dat happen in d 70's. Explain it 2 me.

yeh stay there and pretend you dont know about al the Grenadians and Vincentians that were given citizenship in the 70's in respect to voter padding..Now i dont really care about what happened much in the past but I dwell more on the present and future.. but since you find it necessary to bring up voter padding under UNC/panday and failed to mention the voter padding in the 70's leaves me to remind you...

Friend it is a fallacy dat PNM get Vincy and Grenadians 2 vote 4 dem. If dat is d case y did NAR gave an amnesty for all d illegals to get citizenship. U must not repeat what peeps say do yuh own research and find out d truth not d old wives tails dat become folklore in TNT.

Even if it is true dat eh voter padding done give yuh d definition ah dat ah ready. It eh d past it happen less than a decade ago dat Sadiq and co try 2 tief meh democracy.



 we know alot was given citizenship in respect to voter padding..and if that is not voter padding then what Panday did with the Guyanese in the 90's aint voter padding either...right ?.same shit..just different parties..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 07:23:51 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, we doh like yuh...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty eh tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

truth is I dont believe either party has the people's and I mean all peoples interest at heart.............is ah tussle for the treasury pure and simple..................... but, if dis was jus about some uneducated fools it would be one thing, but you get stories from people in the public service about wholesale removal of black people in public office, the last time dey was dere.................and not jus d vetoing of high level positions"for those coming hot an' sweaty to throw that" it was system wide and seemed to have no rhyme or reason apart from what was obvious

Is dispensation of the unc going to be different maybe......................but in my view d general sentiment of your support dont be to far from yuh own, even if not outwardly set forth.

Doh worry wit dem ostrich a personal friend ah minds eh get a wuk in education on contract Kamla say nah she is PNM. In police where I was wukin dey get dey commish d 1 who could not remember when he did born promote 1 man to sgt so he seniority go b higher. D contract 2 clean d blinds in d min of ed was a company in Penal.

All d cost overruns 4 primary schools who went and do they own fence was county caroni schools. Is just a tip of d iceberg.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 22, 2010, 07:25:20 PM
Of the 95 persons(i think) offering themselves for election, what percentage allyuh think in it for themselves vs love of country.

I think over 95 % in it for themselves. If yuh really follow politicians in T&T yuh en vote!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 07:28:45 PM
Of the 95 persons(i think) offering themselves for election, what percentage allyuh think in it for themselves vs love of country.

I think over 95 % in it for themselves. If yuh really follow politicians in T&T yuh en vote!!!

right, so alla we going to abstain from the polls.  then what?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 07:29:56 PM
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship.
yes.

So who d chinese votin 4?
..and since we on the topic of Voter Padding..
PNM OPENS MORE ARM TO MIGRANTS link..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161673956&weba=NWSBusiness

So migrants= automatic citizenship. It different from having UWI students registering dey address in Tpuna when is  d apartment dey livin during d semester so dey can vote in Tpuna.

good point but why did you fail to address my previous post about voter padding from since the 70's with Eric Williams ?

What voter padding. Voter padding is willfully registering 2 vote in a constituency when u doh live dey. When dat happen in d 70's. Explain it 2 me.

yeh stay there and pretend you dont know about al the Grenadians and Vincentians that were given citizenship in the 70's in respect to voter padding..Now i dont really care about what happened much in the past but I dwell more on the present and future.. but since you find it necessary to bring up voter padding under UNC/panday and failed to mention the voter padding in the 70's leaves me to remind you...

Friend it is a fallacy dat PNM get Vincy and Grenadians 2 vote 4 dem. If dat is d case y did NAR gave an amnesty for all d illegals to get citizenship. U must not repeat what peeps say do yuh own research and find out d truth not d old wives tails dat become folklore in TNT.

Even if it is true dat eh voter padding done give yuh d definition ah dat ah ready. It eh d past it happen less than a decade ago dat Sadiq and co try 2 tief meh democracy.



 we know alot was given citizenship in respect to voter padding..and if that is not voter padding then what Panday did with the Guyanese in the 90's aint voter padding either...right ?.same shit..just different parties..


So NAR voterpad as well. I will say is folklore that PNM give peeps citizenship because if it was then there would b no need 4 an amnesty. As 4 Panday if u say dat is d case I go blieve u as u iz UNC. I is NAR and dem dead
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 07:30:46 PM
Of the 95 persons(i think) offering themselves for election, what percentage allyuh think in it for themselves vs love of country.

I think over 95 % in it for themselves. If yuh really follow politicians in T&T yuh en vote!!!

right, so alla we going to abstain from the polls.  then what?

although it was only ABOUT half the voting population that did not vote in 1972..I dont think we will have anything as close to dat again
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 22, 2010, 07:37:35 PM
Of the 95 persons(i think) offering themselves for election, what percentage allyuh think in it for themselves vs love of country.

I think over 95 % in it for themselves. If yuh really follow politicians in T&T yuh en vote!!!

right, so alla we going to abstain from the polls.  then what?


nope, i would never encourage not voting,  i exercised my rights this morning self. what i was getting at is darm if you do, damn if you dont, the unc and the pnm are just 2 sides of the same nasty, stinking, dutty coin.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 22, 2010, 07:41:24 PM
Darn vex but still supporting the PNM
Published: 22 May 2010

I have told many of my friends that I am vex, darn vex, but I am still supporting the PNM and they have all inquired of me if that means that I am not supporting Patrick Manning and my unequivocal answer is “of course, he is the leader of the PNM, and I must accept the good, the bad and the ugly and whosoever is the leader must be accepted by all supporters of the PNM.” I am vex because the PM called the election when he had two and a half years to put all actual/perceived wrongs right. I am vex because Manning’s style of leadership has alienated hundreds if not thousands of his supporters. But I am supporting the PNM because it is the only party on the horizon capable of handling the diversity in terms of ethnicity in this country.

If the PNM cannot properly manners Laventille and other hot spots it will be worse for the UNC/Partnership. And the PNM is slowly but sincerely evolving into a real multiracial party from the bottom up. The East Indians have benefited tremendously under the governance of the PNM. All together there are hundreds of thousands of East Indian teachers, lawyers, doctors, judicial officers, public servants, successful businessmen in T&T etc. But I would like to see an ethnic balance (more East Indians) in the armed forces, that is, the police, army, coast guard. There are many other things I would like to see implemented but we will deal with those after May 24.

I support the PNM because it is a unitary party, well structured and disciplined with a democratic/socialist political ideology, that is, mixed capitalism with a social welfare net for the have-nots. The PNM has promoted and perfected the fundamental rights to worship, join political parties of one’s choice, freedom of the press and free speech. There are no political prisoners in this country. But in spite of this Manning has made victory at the polls very difficult at this point in time. Who-soever wins this election will do so by not more that one or two seats. It could be PNM 20, UNC/COP 20, TOP one. I say so because in my own home the potential voters have different preferences.

My wife supports the view that a woman Prime Minister will be better for the country, one of my sons wants to see Dookeran in Parliament but not the UNC/accommodation, and another could not care less who governs this country. It is the same khaki pants as far as he is concerned.
Say what, life goes on after the election. We all have to live in this country. But this election has demonstrated that the people of this country have good and decent hearts. Look at the crossover to the UNC and the PNM. Thousands of East Indians are supporting the PNM while thousands of Africans are supporting the UNC. The other tribes’ political support is shared between the UNC and the PNM. This is a good sign and I say that in spite of all our problems; this country has a bright future.
See you after the elections.

Israel B Khan SC
St Augustine


i guess is not only poor, backward and illiterate people who does be 'pnm till i die' :o
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 07:42:04 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid, but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, "we doh like yuh"...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty, eh, tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

good joke har har..i know there are racists on both sides but for you to say the opposite is no where that nasty makes me wonder...we even have posters coming in here making comments along the lines of "I hope dem coolies eat grass" in regards to who chooses what political party.....and I am not even indian but of course still find that disrespectful..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 07:48:24 PM
Darn vex but still supporting the PNM
Published: 22 May 2010

I have told many of my friends that I am vex, darn vex, but I am still supporting the PNM and they have all inquired of me if that means that I am not supporting Patrick Manning and my unequivocal answer is “of course, he is the leader of the PNM, and I must accept the good, the bad and the ugly and whosoever is the leader must be accepted by all supporters of the PNM.” I am vex because the PM called the election when he had two and a half years to put all actual/perceived wrongs right. I am vex because Manning’s style of leadership has alienated hundreds if not thousands of his supporters. But I am supporting the PNM because it is the only party on the horizon capable of handling the diversity in terms of ethnicity in this country.

If the PNM cannot properly manners Laventille and other hot spots it will be worse for the UNC/Partnership. And the PNM is slowly but sincerely evolving into a real multiracial party from the bottom up. The East Indians have benefited tremendously under the governance of the PNM. All together there are hundreds of thousands of East Indian teachers, lawyers, doctors, judicial officers, public servants, successful businessmen in T&T etc. But I would like to see an ethnic balance (more East Indians) in the armed forces, that is, the police, army, coast guard. There are many other things I would like to see implemented but we will deal with those after May 24.

I support the PNM because it is a unitary party, well structured and disciplined with a democratic/socialist political ideology, that is, mixed capitalism with a social welfare net for the have-nots. The PNM has promoted and perfected the fundamental rights to worship, join political parties of one’s choice, freedom of the press and free speech. There are no political prisoners in this country. But in spite of this Manning has made victory at the polls very difficult at this point in time. Who-soever wins this election will do so by not more that one or two seats. It could be PNM 20, UNC/COP 20, TOP one. I say so because in my own home the potential voters have different preferences.

My wife supports the view that a woman Prime Minister will be better for the country, one of my sons wants to see Dookeran in Parliament but not the UNC/accommodation, and another could not care less who governs this country. It is the same khaki pants as far as he is concerned.
Say what, life goes on after the election. We all have to live in this country. But this election has demonstrated that the people of this country have good and decent hearts. Look at the crossover to the UNC and the PNM. Thousands of East Indians are supporting the PNM while thousands of Africans are supporting the UNC. The other tribes’ political support is shared between the UNC and the PNM. This is a good sign and I say that in spite of all our problems; this country has a bright future.
See you after the elections.

Israel B Khan SC
St Augustine


i guess is not only poor, backward and illiterate people who does be 'pnm till i die' :o

Isreal Khan was a leading NAR LT. He was chairman of d NAR St. Agustine consituency. So he can neva b considered pnm till I die.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 07:52:03 PM
Darn vex but still supporting the PNM
Published: 22 May 2010

I have told many of my friends that I am vex, darn vex, but I am still supporting the PNM and they have all inquired of me if that means that I am not supporting Patrick Manning and my unequivocal answer is “of course, he is the leader of the PNM, and I must accept the good, the bad and the ugly and whosoever is the leader must be accepted by all supporters of the PNM.” I am vex because the PM called the election when he had two and a half years to put all actual/perceived wrongs right. I am vex because Manning’s style of leadership has alienated hundreds if not thousands of his supporters. But I am supporting the PNM because it is the only party on the horizon capable of handling the diversity in terms of ethnicity in this country.

If the PNM cannot properly manners Laventille and other hot spots it will be worse for the UNC/Partnership. And the PNM is slowly but sincerely evolving into a real multiracial party from the bottom up. The East Indians have benefited tremendously under the governance of the PNM. All together there are hundreds of thousands of East Indian teachers, lawyers, doctors, judicial officers, public servants, successful businessmen in T&T etc. But I would like to see an ethnic balance (more East Indians) in the armed forces, that is, the police, army, coast guard. There are many other things I would like to see implemented but we will deal with those after May 24.

I support the PNM because it is a unitary party, well structured and disciplined with a democratic/socialist political ideology, that is, mixed capitalism with a social welfare net for the have-nots. The PNM has promoted and perfected the fundamental rights to worship, join political parties of one’s choice, freedom of the press and free speech. There are no political prisoners in this country. But in spite of this Manning has made victory at the polls very difficult at this point in time. Who-soever wins this election will do so by not more that one or two seats. It could be PNM 20, UNC/COP 20, TOP one. I say so because in my own home the potential voters have different preferences.

My wife supports the view that a woman Prime Minister will be better for the country, one of my sons wants to see Dookeran in Parliament but not the UNC/accommodation, and another could not care less who governs this country. It is the same khaki pants as far as he is concerned.
Say what, life goes on after the election. We all have to live in this country. But this election has demonstrated that the people of this country have good and decent hearts. Look at the crossover to the UNC and the PNM. Thousands of East Indians are supporting the PNM while thousands of Africans are supporting the UNC. The other tribes’ political support is shared between the UNC and the PNM. This is a good sign and I say that in spite of all our problems; this country has a bright future.
See you after the elections.

Israel B Khan SC
St Augustine


i guess is not only poor, backward and illiterate people who does be 'pnm till i die' :o

Isreal Khan was a leading NAR LT. He was chairman of d NAR St. Agustine consituency. So he can neva b considered pnm till I die.

how bout converted pnm til i die?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trinione on May 22, 2010, 07:56:51 PM
Darn vex but still supporting the PNM
Published: 22 May 2010

I have told many of my friends that I am vex, darn vex, but I am still supporting the PNM and they have all inquired of me if that means that I am not supporting Patrick Manning and my unequivocal answer is “of course, he is the leader of the PNM, and I must accept the good, the bad and the ugly and whosoever is the leader must be accepted by all supporters of the PNM.” I am vex because the PM called the election when he had two and a half years to put all actual/perceived wrongs right. I am vex because Manning’s style of leadership has alienated hundreds if not thousands of his supporters. But I am supporting the PNM because it is the only party on the horizon capable of handling the diversity in terms of ethnicity in this country.

If the PNM cannot properly manners Laventille and other hot spots it will be worse for the UNC/Partnership. And the PNM is slowly but sincerely evolving into a real multiracial party from the bottom up. The East Indians have benefited tremendously under the governance of the PNM. All together there are hundreds of thousands of East Indian teachers, lawyers, doctors, judicial officers, public servants, successful businessmen in T&T etc. But I would like to see an ethnic balance (more East Indians) in the armed forces, that is, the police, army, coast guard. There are many other things I would like to see implemented but we will deal with those after May 24.

I support the PNM because it is a unitary party, well structured and disciplined with a democratic/socialist political ideology, that is, mixed capitalism with a social welfare net for the have-nots. The PNM has promoted and perfected the fundamental rights to worship, join political parties of one’s choice, freedom of the press and free speech. There are no political prisoners in this country. But in spite of this Manning has made victory at the polls very difficult at this point in time. Who-soever wins this election will do so by not more that one or two seats. It could be PNM 20, UNC/COP 20, TOP one. I say so because in my own home the potential voters have different preferences.

My wife supports the view that a woman Prime Minister will be better for the country, one of my sons wants to see Dookeran in Parliament but not the UNC/accommodation, and another could not care less who governs this country. It is the same khaki pants as far as he is concerned.
Say what, life goes on after the election. We all have to live in this country. But this election has demonstrated that the people of this country have good and decent hearts. Look at the crossover to the UNC and the PNM. Thousands of East Indians are supporting the PNM while thousands of Africans are supporting the UNC. The other tribes’ political support is shared between the UNC and the PNM. This is a good sign and I say that in spite of all our problems; this country has a bright future.
See you after the elections.

Israel B Khan SC
St Augustine


i guess is not only poor, backward and illiterate people who does be 'pnm till i die' :o

Isreal Khan was a leading NAR LT. He was chairman of d NAR St. Agustine consituency. So he can neva b considered pnm till I die.

how bout converted pnm til i die?

I think it is biologically proven from several clinical studies to be PNM 'till you die you have to be born a PNM.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 22, 2010, 08:00:16 PM

what i was getting at is darm if you do, damn if you dont, the unc and the pnm are just 2 sides of the same nasty, stinking, dutty coin.

 :applause: :applause:

And with that I say goodnight....enjoy all yuh Sunday and see all yuh Monday morning.......I on a flight to Bago in the morning and will miss the "lovely" back and forth that has developed over the past 2 -3 hours   ::) ::)....just remember folks, we still have to live here come Tuesday morning.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 08:02:54 PM

what i was getting at is darm if you do, damn if you dont, the unc and the pnm are just 2 sides of the same nasty, stinking, dutty coin.

 :applause: :applause:

And with that I say goodnight....enjoy all yuh Sunday and see all yuh Monday morning.......I on a flight to Bago in the morning and will miss the "lovely" back and forth that has developed over the past 2 -3 hours   ::) ::)....just remember folks, we still have to live here come Tuesday morning.....
have a safe trip
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 22, 2010, 08:08:43 PM
Me...i just watching as men jump outta dey crease with dey dotish talk. One positive i could take from all dis is dat yuh get to see what people truly made of.

I was thinking doh....
Why manning really allow dah UDECOTT scene to play off? Especially after he pop franklyn khan and eric williams neck...and was moving like he taking a hard line against corruption?

De only thing i could think of...is due to the summits...that he wanted dem buildings finish.....under the rationale that those summits would raise the country's profile.....and bring in investments.

Buh if dahs de case...he still handle it bad.

Buh....leh me dress back and observe as de race element comes stronger and stronger. Who walking in government office and telling who dat dey time up. Who cussing de nex one.

I tell yuh...i feel dis time dis place go explode. Seriously.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 08:11:51 PM

what i was getting at is darm if you do, damn if you dont, the unc and the pnm are just 2 sides of the same nasty, stinking, dutty coin.

 :applause: :applause:

And with that I say goodnight....enjoy all yuh Sunday and see all yuh Monday morning.......I on a flight to Bago in the morning and will miss the "lovely" back and forth that has developed over the past 2 -3 hours   ::) ::)....just remember folks, we still have to live here come Tuesday morning.....


Yep we all have 2 live on these 2 pieces ah rock come tue.

what i was getting at is darm if you do, damn if you dont, the unc and the pnm are just 2 sides of the same nasty, stinking, dutty coin.

 :applause: :applause:

And with that I say goodnight....enjoy all yuh Sunday and see all yuh Monday morning.......I on a flight to Bago in the morning and will miss the "lovely" back and forth that has developed over the past 2 -3 hours   ::) ::)....just remember folks, we still have to live here come Tuesday morning.....
have a safe trip

COSIGNNNNNNN
Me...i just watching as men jump outta dey crease with dey dotish talk. One positive i could take from all dis is dat yuh get to see what people truly made of.

I was thinking doh....
Why manning really allow dah UDECOTT scene to play off? Especially after he pop franklyn khan and eric williams neck...and was moving like he taking a hard line against corruption?

De only thing i could think of...is due to the summits...that he wanted dem buildings finish.....under the rationale that those summits would raise the country's profile.....and bring in investments.

Buh if dahs de case...he still handle it bad.

Buh....leh me dress back and observe as de race element comes stronger and stronger. Who walking in government office and telling who dat dey time up. Who cussing de nex one.

I tell yuh...i feel dis time dis place go explode. Seriously.

no explosion will not confess that
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 22, 2010, 08:17:26 PM
If/When a certain party loss. Yuh go hear.
Dey done "oppressed". Dey done "fed up" . Dey part of the "revolution". Yuh doh feel due to the elections not going how they would have liked..they go use dat as a reason to riot?

Ah mean..i cynical eh..buh.....dahs how it seeming to me.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 08:18:55 PM

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

what happens wit d govt affects everybody, and yes is not Kamla saying it,, and yes alot of shit going on wit d pnm gov't and let meh jus tell yuh someting dat same mother an' me been cussin back an' foward bout d shit d gov't doin because she is ah pnm-tid but it bad sammy, and it doh give confidence to vote for people, whose support tellin yuh to yuh face, we doh like yuh...................how I ask u, do look past d general hateful sentiment especially when d opposite no way near dat nasty eh tell mih...................an for d last time, ah not preachin race, preachin race "to me" is "dey hair does be too f**kin oily" stating an untenable situation dat quickly treatening to become violent is treating wit facts not mere idle stereotyping.

Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

truth is I dont believe either party has the people's and I mean all peoples interest at heart.............is ah tussle for the treasury pure and simple..................... but, if dis was jus about some uneducated fools it would be one thing, but you get stories from people in the public service about wholesale removal of black people in public office, the last time dey was dere.................and not jus d vetoing of high level positions"for those coming hot an' sweaty to throw that" it was system wide and seemed to have no rhyme or reason apart from what was obvious

Is dispensation of the unc going to be different maybe......................but in my view d general sentiment of your support dont be to far from yuh own, even if not outwardly set forth.

I would tend to agree with you, and go a step further and say that the all politicians seek there own interest; few if any live up to the mantra of “off the people for the people.”  Like you I have heard the stories of the prejudicial hiring of the UNC, and recently we have some questionable examples from the PNM i.e chief justice.
I am not impressed by Kamla, and I wished the COP had run by themselves. But I also understand that their coffers were in no condition for funding an election campaign. The decision you must make is choose between the devil (PNM) you know and the devil (UNC) you don’t .
If you choose the devil you don’t , the only thing you can do is hope the previous hiring practices went out the door with the previous political leader.  But the one good thing about democracy is come next election you get to learn from your mistakes. “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.”
I agree with your take on d general sentiment of the ones that you chose to support dont be to far from yuh own, but this is a sentiment that is promoted by tales of one group acting out against the other when they are in power.  But you must remember that many of these story tellers will promote their own agenda.
Ultimately the decision is yours.  The way I see it do you  vote for more or the same or the small possibility of something different that may or not be better.

Now if there was only some way the peope could bring a vote of no confidence in the gov't and force an early election.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 08:19:19 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Sammy,

Just a question, do you care to share some of your experiences about this suffering you are experiencing?

And I hope you don't think im being facetious, i just think of my own situation. Where i was 10 years ago and where i am now. I was never the recipient of any government handout other than the public utilities that everybody else gets. I went to school, i was able to graduate and acquire employment, i am trying to start my own business on the side. Everything aint perfect but at the same time i think of what i was able to achieve by my own valition and efforts and to ensure that i will not suffer myself in any undue way. If you presensent your case i will accept that. Please don't try to include other persons experiences in your case.

I want to know what are  your own sufferings.

1. Long wait at the hospital & inadequate facilities
2. Getting stressed out having to sit at traffic lights and wait in line while ppl come allong side me and cut in making me miss the light. Where are the police?
3. Not being free to roam the country while feeling safe.
4. Thinking i was earning a good salary only to realise that the high food prices making it smaller and smaller
5. raise in gas prices
6. poor roads causing me to constantly repair the car
7.having to listen to news everyday and ppl getting killed and no-one being put in jail for it
8. The paranoia of knowing that one day the oil will run out and we have no alternatives to bring money into the country
9. the paranoia knowing that we wasting we farm land and cant feed ourselves.
10.having multiple drug blocks around my neighborhood
11.the stress from hearing bout the billions lost from cost overruns on state projects
12.the stress of knowing tat we host summit and only we Project Manger signed the treaty
13.Poor water supply and quality
14.High electricity price
15.the stress from watching the ruling party blatantly  disregard the law on more than one occasions
16.the anger from watching a whole gang of CEPEP ppl come to clean the clean part of the drain in front my house whilst leaving the dirty part.

17. worst of all, having to watch the arrogance of the PM and his croonies when they address us, and when they dont answer questions placed by the ooposition.

I dunno, maybe these things does only happen to me yes......cause the way u talk, these "sufferings"  not applicable to u

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 08:23:41 PM
Me...i just watching as men jump outta dey crease with dey dotish talk. One positive i could take from all dis is dat yuh get to see what people truly made of.

I was thinking doh....
Why manning really allow dah UDECOTT scene to play off? Especially after he pop franklyn khan and eric williams neck...and was moving like he taking a hard line against corruption?


that easy. When they came into power they had to act and perform well, cause they knew that they was out of govmt for a while, but as time passed by, they realised the vibes of the ppl is that they PMN t.i.d. so they didnt have to do squat anymore. simple imagine what going to happen if they win again?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 08:26:02 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole

All very unfortunate.
However, something frightens me more than asshole supporters...

Asshole leaders.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 08:29:13 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole

All very unfortunate.
However, something frightens me more than asshole supporters...

Asshole leaders.


ouch
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 22, 2010, 08:37:25 PM
haha your funny to read, up to now you havent addressed the other hypocrites on the board, special my a%$, you try to target individuals you personally dont like and you never addressed the other poster, every comment was directed to me, wheel and come again, your senseless mind games not working on me, your sounding more convoluted than educated.

Must be ah whole setta people on this board that I don't personally like then... b/c whether "friend" or "foe" (in quotes b/c this is de web, it not dat serious to me) I does criticize equally and liberally when man, woman or in-between talking shit.  But if you insist that I have some personal animus against you then as I said,  feel free to feel special.

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once again this is not an endorsement of uncop, but yet you claim that i am an avid supporter, it seems like my comments hit home with you bc in your mind your vote is already decided or else you wouldnt be trying to attack like a rot when yuh only meowing.
 

you's ah kinda c**t or dred... or yuh juss like acting dis way??  Where have I accused you of being a UNC supporter?  Yuh sure is not yuh conscience talking dey?  and about this bullshit about my vote already being decided... c**thole, I live in de US and sentimentality aside I have no dog in dis fight.  So wheel with yuh fukkery and come again.

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it seems as though, only one party is a sinner, maybe you should be the man to caste the first stone. the only problem with that is the current admin is under fire, from what i remember unc not in power, but of course you cant point out the corruption of pnm bc you will be accused of being a supporter of the unc and chastised.

no wonder tt going down the drain.



Again... either yuh can't read... have a persecution complex or just plain dotish.  Smart money is on all three because nobody (not I) accuse you of being a supporter of either party.  I responded to you on yuh bullshit racism charge.  The fact that yuh trying hard to argue UNC case is revealing in of itself... but matters not to me.  I couldn't give a rat's ass who yuh supporting because at the end of the day I know you in TO trying to maquerade as a soca artist and not voting in no election.  
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 22, 2010, 08:43:51 PM
Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

Which would be people like Jack Warner... and Herbert Volney.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 22, 2010, 08:47:54 PM
good joke har har..i know there are racists on both sides but for you to say the opposite is no where that nasty makes me wonder...we even have posters coming in here making comments along the lines of "I hope dem coolies eat grass" in regards to who chooses what political party.....and I am not even indian but of course still find that disrespectful..

yuh have ah link to that comment?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 08:50:10 PM
Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

Which would be people like Jack Warner... and Herbert Volney.

As compared to Colm Imbert .... or Mariano Browne.
again pick your poison
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 22, 2010, 08:53:03 PM
All very unfortunate.
However, something frightens me more than asshole supporters...

Asshole leaders.


Read yuh siggy and come again.

-------------------------------


Trinindian... you simply CANNOT be serious.


anyway... I heading out, time tuh go wine on sumting... I'll leave you people in here up tuh allyuh devices.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 22, 2010, 09:00:25 PM
All very unfortunate.
However, something frightens me more than asshole supporters...

Asshole leaders.


Read yuh siggy and come again.

-------------------------------


Trinindian... you simply CANNOT be serious.


anyway... I heading out, time tuh go wine on sumting... I'll leave you people in here up tuh allyuh devices.
The point was not to say that a Mr Imbert  and Mrs Browne equals a J. Warner or Volney, simply to point out that there are undesirables in each party.
Enjoy the wine , like a true trini the party does not start till midnight.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
good joke har har..i know there are racists on both sides but for you to say the opposite is no where that nasty makes me wonder...we even have posters coming in here making comments along the lines of "I hope dem coolies eat grass" in regards to who chooses what political party.....and I am not even indian but of course still find that disrespectful..

yuh have ah link to that comment?

it was said more than once in "The General elections thread"..it was said by Daft Trini and one time Jumbie corrected him  by saying.
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"the whole indian this and negro this is what have the facking country where it is today. no responsibility for one's actions and bawl we deprived. time to get up and get... and take care of your own.
I juss facking fedup of the blatant disrespect for people on this forum."


dont know if he deleted the original statement or was the mods or deleted it..

Now no offense to de man (Daft Trini) and i am targeting him. I am just responding to your question..In fact Daft Trini went on further explain why he made that comment in that particular thread..


Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 22, 2010, 09:08:20 PM
The PNM will win the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 09:19:53 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 09:25:23 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 09:28:25 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.

No luv dat is rum talk is d way dey behave when u interact wit dem on d street/gas station etc. Anil say we win ahready. 
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 09:29:26 PM
All very unfortunate.
However, something frightens me more than asshole supporters...

Asshole leaders.


Read yuh siggy and come again.

I don't live in Chaguanas East and I am not voting for Jack Warner. Neither am I in St. Joseph voting for Volney. If I had that privilege, the choice would be easily made.
It sounds, that by your thinking, a vote for the coalition is a vote for either of these gentlemen. Then I'm sure you can understand why some people think that a vote for any PNM candidate is a vote (and endorsement) for Manning and his herd of sheep.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 09:30:13 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.

No luv dat is rum talk is d way dey behave when u interact wit dem on d street/gas station etc. Anil say we win ahready. 

Who de ass is dis "dem" and dis "we" I keep hearing bout?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jumbie on May 22, 2010, 09:34:56 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

it's sad that in less than 5 years we'll be in the same situation again, where emphasis will be placed on how straight your hair is and NOT what's really best for the individual and country. It's  also sad that so much is based on hearsay and not real facts when people speak on this forum about why or not they support a party.

the few here who do vote and live in the mess that Trinidad and Tobago is.. good luck on Monday and beyond. It's easy for us afar to come on here and bray, but when it comes down to reality.. we cud care less who in charge and what they do, since it does not directly affect us.

Brothers and Sisters.. good luck.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: g on May 22, 2010, 09:41:50 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Sammy,

Just a question, do you care to share some of your experiences about this suffering you are experiencing?

And I hope you don't think im being facetious, i just think of my own situation. Where i was 10 years ago and where i am now. I was never the recipient of any government handout other than the public utilities that everybody else gets. I went to school, i was able to graduate and acquire employment, i am trying to start my own business on the side. Everything aint perfect but at the same time i think of what i was able to achieve by my own valition and efforts and to ensure that i will not suffer myself in any undue way. If you presensent your case i will accept that. Please don't try to include other persons experiences in your case.

I want to know what are  your own sufferings.

1. Long wait at the hospital & inadequate facilities
2. Getting stressed out having to sit at traffic lights and wait in line while ppl come allong side me and cut in making me miss the light. Where are the police?
3. Not being free to roam the country while feeling safe.
4. Thinking i was earning a good salary only to realise that the high food prices making it smaller and smaller
5. raise in gas prices
6. poor roads causing me to constantly repair the car
7.having to listen to news everyday and ppl getting killed and no-one being put in jail for it
8. The paranoia of knowing that one day the oil will run out and we have no alternatives to bring money into the country
9. the paranoia knowing that we wasting we farm land and cant feed ourselves.
10.having multiple drug blocks around my neighborhood
11.the stress from hearing bout the billions lost from cost overruns on state projects
12.the stress of knowing tat we host summit and only we Project Manger signed the treaty
13.Poor water supply and quality
14.High electricity price
15.the stress from watching the ruling party blatantly  disregard the law on more than one occasions
16.the anger from watching a whole gang of CEPEP ppl come to clean the clean part of the drain in front my house whilst leaving the dirty part.

17. worst of all, having to watch the arrogance of the PM and his croonies when they address us, and when they dont answer questions placed by the ooposition.

I dunno, maybe these things does only happen to me yes......cause the way u talk, these "sufferings"  not applicable to u



Thanks for responding,

Your greviances are your greviances, i will make no attempt to down play or reduce them as you cited them as relative to you, especially when it comes to the safety of yourself and possibly ones in your care.

I can only speak for myself having lived both here and the US for a period of time and it has given me a kind of perspective based on my experience.

I've never been subject to crime here but i've been robbed at gunpoint twice in washington dc
I get my garbage picked up in trini everyday here but in the US it's only done once a week
I've had an accident in the US that i had to go to hospital in an ambulance. Think of me a student facing a 1,500USD medical bill. I got swift healthcare but ask anybody in trini to pay equivalent for that.
We marvel at first world societies but the things we don't like about them are the same exact things that make them first world.

I've learnt in this life that nowhere is perfect, and while its not an excuse on any government's part for not delivering services that a government should. But i find folks seem to complain conveniently, all the things you cite will probably will not change after this election regardless who forms the next government. Hence i believe its a personal responsibility to ensure that you do what you have to do to make your existance in our country and by extension this world as comfortable as possible .

But we have our franchise to vote for who we think will do the best job of government and i will exercise my right, after that i let the chips fall where they may. I have my opinions on how things should be done in the country but who knows if what i think will work. Government is simply a bunch of individuals like you and me who will have their own ideas on how a country should be run and as in most things in life, somethings will work well, others will work not so well, and others won't work at all. Collective assesment will determine whether they get to continue or whether another set of individuals will get a chance.

You say that these sufferings i cited may not applicable to me. Well, i can't say that they don't. I read the news and suffer the same woes of traffic and cost of living etc. I guess i just deal with them in a different way. I not living my life to be unhappy and stressed over things i can't control. If a man decide to use the shoulder while i sit in the traffic, well he may get away once or twice or more. But there is the chance that he may get caught and will have to pay 1,000 dollars when i know for a fact that I won't.

My only criticism of our people is that we sometimes fail to understand that a working government is all of us. We all have our roles to play in our different spheres to shape the society and I think that is where we need to educate and challenge each other. If every father does what a father is supposed to do, we would not have the level of crime that we have now. Is it the government's role to be the father in a home?  We complain about flooding but when we see fellow citizens litter indiscriminantly we turn a blind eye (yes me too). I believe if someone feels strongly enough about how things are being run, or not being run. They will offer themselves up, deliver their ideologies and hope that their message is accepted.

Yea i'm laughing too
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 09:49:18 PM
midnight....u wasting your breath finger tips on the ppl in this forum.......

so why den dont u address in some form or fashion d HATE vibe dat some gettin u is indian right it eh happen to u right, so who cares...right,  u feel people really willin to overlook bold face wrong doin jus so, come nah man
i is an indian cause i backing unc? u feel negros eh voting unc too....steups..

So tell me bout all the ppl who willing to overlook wrong doing from the 50 yrs of pnm nah? ent they overlooking it? ent? ent? who more bold face than the pnm and thier supporters who will always make excuse to vote them ?

come again breads....and stop pushing that race talk just like u leader......the majority of people who oppressing/killing/threating africans is not indians/chinese/syrians.

 

yeah so unc people doh make excuses, doh justify blindly, and not pushin no race talk, stating experiences right hear right now

directed at my mother "when we win ah spittin on d fuss nigger ah see"
directed at me "when we reach we go walk on alyuh"

tell mih, race talk I pushin ................please..................up until dat f**kin day alyuh had my vote lock up so stop yuh shit >:(

thats unfortunate and it does happen from both sides - u feel indian doh face trouble from africans?? steups,

And for u to change your mind cause of a few imps? come on u eh fooling anyone but yourself.

easy for u to dismiss it cuz it eh happenin to u. i gettin talks from indian who i eh know, an indians who i thought were friends. d only thing dey eh do is call me n****r to my face. for sure ah know dey sayin it behind my backs.

d politics doh have to reach dat racist levels. anddaiz d problem i havein wid plenty ppl. yuh could support yuh party widout being an asshole



dem doh want to hear dat gyal, it doh affect dem so to f**k wit it

it may not happen to us, however what happens with the government affects us.

Unless u mother was abused by kamla herself, then u eh really have no excuse for changing u vote cause at the end of the day, pnm doing mess and we all have to suffer weather u is inidan or african if they get back into power

Sammy,

Just a question, do you care to share some of your experiences about this suffering you are experiencing?

And I hope you don't think im being facetious, i just think of my own situation. Where i was 10 years ago and where i am now. I was never the recipient of any government handout other than the public utilities that everybody else gets. I went to school, i was able to graduate and acquire employment, i am trying to start my own business on the side. Everything aint perfect but at the same time i think of what i was able to achieve by my own valition and efforts and to ensure that i will not suffer myself in any undue way. If you presensent your case i will accept that. Please don't try to include other persons experiences in your case.

I want to know what are  your own sufferings.

1. Long wait at the hospital & inadequate facilities
2. Getting stressed out having to sit at traffic lights and wait in line while ppl come allong side me and cut in making me miss the light. Where are the police?
3. Not being free to roam the country while feeling safe.
4. Thinking i was earning a good salary only to realise that the high food prices making it smaller and smaller
5. raise in gas prices
6. poor roads causing me to constantly repair the car
7.having to listen to news everyday and ppl getting killed and no-one being put in jail for it
8. The paranoia of knowing that one day the oil will run out and we have no alternatives to bring money into the country
9. the paranoia knowing that we wasting we farm land and cant feed ourselves.
10.having multiple drug blocks around my neighborhood
11.the stress from hearing bout the billions lost from cost overruns on state projects
12.the stress of knowing tat we host summit and only we Project Manger signed the treaty
13.Poor water supply and quality
14.High electricity price
15.the stress from watching the ruling party blatantly  disregard the law on more than one occasions
16.the anger from watching a whole gang of CEPEP ppl come to clean the clean part of the drain in front my house whilst leaving the dirty part.

17. worst of all, having to watch the arrogance of the PM and his croonies when they address us, and when they dont answer questions placed by the ooposition.

I dunno, maybe these things does only happen to me yes......cause the way u talk, these "sufferings"  not applicable to u



Thanks for responding,

Your greviances are your greviances, i will make no attempt to down play or reduce them as you cited them as relative to you, especially when it comes to the safety of yourself and possibly ones in your care.

I can only speak for myself having lived both here and the US for a period of time and it has given me a kind of perspective based on my experience.

I've never been subject to crime here but i've been robbed at gunpoint twice in washington dc
I get my garbage picked up in trini everyday here but in the US it's only done once a week
I've had an accident in the US that i had to go to hospital in an ambulance. Think of me a student facing a 1,500USD medical bill. I got swift healthcare but ask anybody in trini to pay equivalent for that.
We marvel at first world societies but the things we don't like about them are the same exact things that make them first world.

I've learnt in this life that nowhere is perfect, and while its not an excuse on any government's part for not delivering services that a government should. But i find folks seem to complain conveniently, all the things you cite will probably will not change after this election regardless who forms the next government. Hence i believe its a personal responsibility to ensure that you do what you have to do to make your existance in our country and by extension this world as comfortable as possible .

But we have our franchise to vote for who we think will do the best job of government and i will exercise my right, after that i let the chips fall where they may. I have my opinions on how things should be done in the country but who knows if what i think will work. Government is simply a bunch of individuals like you and me who will have their own ideas on how a country should be run and as in most things in life, somethings will work well, others will work not so well, and others won't work at all. Collective assesment will determine whether they get to continue or whether another set of individuals will get a chance.

You say that these sufferings i cited may not applicable to me. Well, i can't say that they don't. I read the news and suffer the same woes of traffic and cost of living etc. I guess i just deal with them in a different way. I not living my life to be unhappy and stressed over things i can't control. If a man decide to use the shoulder while i sit in the traffic, well he may get away once or twice or more. But there is the chance that he may get caught and will have to pay 1,000 dollars when i know for a fact that I won't.

My only criticism of our people is that we sometimes fail to understand that a working government is all of us. We all have our roles to play in our different spheres to shape the society and I think that is where we need to educate and challenge each other. If every father does what a father is supposed to do, we would not have the level of crime that we have now. Is it the government's role to be the father in a home?  We complain about flooding but when we see fellow citizens litter indiscriminantly we turn a blind eye (yes me too). I believe if someone feels strongly enough about how things are being run, or not being run. They will offer themselves up, deliver their ideologies and hope that their message is accepted.

Yea i'm laughing too



:beermug:

Is we who have TNT in d state it in because is we who doh wuk and expect 2 b paid. My biggest beef wit PNM govt is dat dey does encourage d slackness as is like d WI team no clear policy. If u eh do yuh wuk no problem and when u do yours  peeps want 2 know what yuh playin.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 22, 2010, 10:27:49 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.


Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dinho on May 22, 2010, 10:37:36 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.


since no one is willing to answer that question can i offer my theory and then people can come here and tell me why it is wrong?

I think that the current government and this prime minister, with the exposure of UDECOTT and the Guanapo church, is on the brink of getting caught red handed in serious acts of corruption.

Calling an early election allows them to quickly strangle the populace another 5 years of power before the political damage is suffered and before the opposition has a chance to organize itself and become a real option.

am i wrong?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 10:43:53 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.





I wish it was 1986 again dat was change man from Westmorings was in Sea Lots helpin d clean up campaign. As u say promises and more promises but tue I wonderin who is d next line Min I have 2 wuk wit because I know what it is 2 change Minister and even wit no change ah govt is pressure.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 22, 2010, 10:48:28 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.
I agree that both parties have expressed overconfidence.The PNM however has used the words 'if they win then .......' fairly often as part of their scare tactics. Rowley in his second address to Diego Martin even said 'it is possible that we might lose.' He repeated these words at another public meeting at Five Rivers Junction where he along with Fitzgerald Hinds supported Neil Parsanlal.

The presumption of victory or at least the projection of confidence is normal. Take the NNV leader for instance, Fuad Abu Bakr , who said that he was confident that he had 8 seats in the bag, a claim that can only be described as a flamboyant hallucination.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

Which would be people like Jack Warner... and Herbert Volney.

maybe we should get ppl from jack constituency and find out what kind of rep he is?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 10:56:07 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.


since no one is willing to answer that question can i offer my theory and then people can come here and tell me why it is wrong?

I think that the current government and this prime minister, with the exposure of UDECOTT and the Guanapo church, is on the brink of getting caught red handed in serious acts of corruption.

Calling an early election allows them to quickly strangle the populace another 5 years of power before the political damage is suffered and before the opposition has a chance to organize itself and become a real option.

am i wrong?

That would make too much sense Dinho...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 10:58:28 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.

No luv dat is rum talk is d way dey behave when u interact wit dem on d street/gas station etc. Anil say we win ahready. 

Who de ass is dis "dem" and dis "we" I keep hearing bout?

i deciphered that code talk higher up already as seen through the eyes of the people who vex with the pnm but voting for them anyways...,.......them is indian which equals is UNC.....and we is negro which equals  PNM.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 10:58:53 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.


since no one is willing to answer that question can i offer my theory and then people can come here and tell me why it is wrong?

I think that the current government and this prime minister, with the exposure of UDECOTT and the Guanapo church, is on the brink of getting caught red handed in serious acts of corruption.

Calling an early election allows them to quickly strangle the populace another 5 years of power before the political damage is suffered and before the opposition has a chance to organize itself and become a real option.

am i wrong?

as simple as you make it sound alot of people will still not care when its time to vote
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 10:59:25 PM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

it's sad that in less than 5 years we'll be in the same situation again, where emphasis will be placed on how straight your hair is and NOT what's really best for the individual and country. It's  also sad that so much is based on hearsay and not real facts when people speak on this forum about why or not they support a party.

the few here who do vote and live in the mess that Trinidad and Tobago is.. good luck on Monday and beyond. It's easy for us afar to come on here and bray, but when it comes down to reality.. we cud care less who in charge and what they do, since it does not directly affect us.

Brothers and Sisters.. good luck.

thanks
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 11:00:19 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.


since no one is willing to answer that question can i offer my theory and then people can come here and tell me why it is wrong?

I think that the current government and this prime minister, with the exposure of UDECOTT and the Guanapo church, is on the brink of getting caught red handed in serious acts of corruption.

Calling an early election allows them to quickly strangle the populace another 5 years of power before the political damage is suffered and before the opposition has a chance to organize itself and become a real option.

am i wrong?

The aspect about UDECOTT could be the gospel truth but the aspect of the opposition being a unified force is a fallacy. Is a case of been there done that. Lets see if they loose lets see how long hey stay together. The average person is of the opinion that they will not be able to hold it together so lets see if they can stay together for 5 years.

If they can stay together if they loose people may take them serious at present they are a pick up side.
Lefty,  ah know it not easy,  but at the end of the day you have to realize that both parties will have die hard supporters that leave a lot to desire, but you are not voting for the supporters you voting for who you want to represent you in parliament.  Who is going to seek your interest?  Do you believe that is now the PNM because some UNC supporters hurled racial slurs at you?

Which would be people like Jack Warner... and Herbert Volney.

maybe we should get ppl from jack constituency and find out what kind of rep he is?

Gr8 MP he shares real money
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 11:02:08 PM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.



prophetess? is that u???  ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 22, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
http://guardian.co.tt/commentary/columnist/2010/05/18/those-people

Those people
David E Bratt MD
Published: 18 May 2010
David E Bratt MD

Quote
Overheard in the Four Roads Hi-Lo supermarket last week: “Boy, yuh make up yuh mind yet? Make sure yuh vote for we or dey go send we back to Africa.” The speaker was an elderly pensioner talking to another.

logoThis election was always about race. Even if scientists say there is no such thing, anecdotes trump research any time. I had intended to repeat the litany of woes about the present Manning administration: lack of governance; the hundreds of millions wasted on grand-charging at summits; empty skyscrapers; kidnappings which the Government thinks is a joke; The failure to stop the 3,000 murders and the unspoken fear that the ruling party was part of it through its dealings with “community leaders;” Cepep; Udecott and the Uff Commission of Enquiry; Calder Hart and his unbelievable closeness to the Prime Minister; perjury allegations that have gone nowhere; Rowley’s accusations and flip flop;

Political interference with the appointments of the Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecution; the illegal coat-of-arms on the PM’s car; the condition of President’s House; the Integrity Commission debacles; the indecent dependency on foreign consultants and Chinese workers; candalous procurement processes; The hasty attempts to arrest a Chief Justice on a Friday afternoon; discrimination against the Maha Sabha in granting a FM radio broadcasting licence; the emasculation of the EMA; the illegal rally in Woodford Square under police protection whilst a motion against the Government was being debated across the street; the $2 million flag; the abandoned hospitals and health centres; The 30 per cent SEA failures year after year with no one knowing why; the lack of diversification of the economy whilst inviting foreign companies to exploit gas and oil under conditions unknown to most of the population; the squandering of oil and gas money for a second time, $300 billion gone; the deal with Abu Bakr prior to the 2002 election, as outlined by the Privy Council;

The inefficient Licensing Offices, District Revenue Offices, courts, Passport Office and ministries; the traffic; the enormity of corruption within the state-owned special purpose entities; the Tarouba stadium; the scholarship scandal involving the Ministry of Culture; NAPA; the Scarborough Hospital; the state-of-the-art radar that does not work; the three blimps; the fast-speed radar boats and the attack helicopters; the destruction of the Grand Stand and a large part of the Savannah; The crippling of the calypso tents; the ICC Cricket World Cup “brown bag“ fiasco; the desalination plants; the wonderful smelters; the berm at Beetham; a Minister of Finance and author of a book on ethics who did not understand the meaning of “fixed deposit;” Clico; The property tax; the “palace;” the bacchanal surrounding the Guanapo church and the threats to reporters investigating it; the blatant attempts to give the Government control over the judiciary as outlined by the present Chief Justice; The constitutional draft, written by unknowns, that would make the PM an “executive president” with control over everything, a la Burnham; the incom- prehensible security details and blaring sirens that we have had to tolerate in an island the size of a large American city; the surprise visit to the radio station; the insulting entrance into Mr Villafana’s property; the prophetess and the intrusion of religion into what is supposed to be a secular state.

Above all, the “gimme gimme dependency syndrome” the PNM has encouraged amongst its supporters and the pandering to the lowest common denominator, ie, race. Race equals group prejudice equals group politics in T&T. This sense of group functions along two important levels. One level involves the obvious dimension of domination, of hierarchical ordering and positioning as typified by the political cry: “Trinidad is PNM country.” A second critical level, however, involves a dimension of exclusion and inclusion, of socio-emotional embrace and rejection. “We culture.” This exclusion and inclusion dimension, again, invokes an emotional basis to the sense of group. Listen to the radio talk shows and hear the various tribes talk about “those people!” Race prejudice is a protective device. It functions, however shortsightedly, to preserve the integrity and the position of the dominant group, even if there is corruption, incompetence and lack of integrity.

It is race that is behind the commess that is going on in T&T, the tacit understanding that it is all gobar but that it is our gobar so it is all right. The righteous concerns within the PNM apparently have given in. That must change. Politics in T&T is a politics waiting to be broken. Until we recognise this, until we move away from race as the defining feature of our politics, we will struggle. The island is too small. From my reading of the issues, it is the present PNM party, molded in the image of one man, that is holding most to race. They have failed us. It is the coalition of parties that offers the best hope of escape from the politics of race. They may fail again but there is no alternative. I will support the People’s Partnership coalition next Monday.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2010, 11:05:48 PM
wheyyyy..allyuh ppl doh sleep dread........anyhow good night ppl
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 11:08:45 PM
http://guardian.co.tt/commentary/columnist/2010/05/18/those-people

Those people
David E Bratt MD
Published: 18 May 2010
David E Bratt MD

Quote
 Overheard in the Four Roads Hi-Lo supermarket last week: “Boy, yuh make up yuh mind yet? Make sure yuh vote for we or dey go send we back to Africa.” The speaker was an elderly pensioner talking to another.

logoThis election was always about race. Even if scientists say there is no such thing, anecdotes trump research any time. I had intended to repeat the litany of woes about the present Manning administration: lack of governance; the hundreds of millions wasted on grand-charging at summits; empty skyscrapers; kidnappings which the Government thinks is a joke; The failure to stop the 3,000 murders and the unspoken fear that the ruling party was part of it through its dealings with “community leaders;” Cepep; Udecott and the Uff Commission of Enquiry; Calder Hart and his unbelievable closeness to the Prime Minister; perjury allegations that have gone nowhere; Rowley’s accusations and flip flop;

Political interference with the appointments of the Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecution; the illegal coat-of-arms on the PM’s car; the condition of President’s House; the Integrity Commission debacles; the indecent dependency on foreign consultants and Chinese workers; candalous procurement processes; The hasty attempts to arrest a Chief Justice on a Friday afternoon; discrimination against the Maha Sabha in granting a FM radio broadcasting licence; the emasculation of the EMA; the illegal rally in Woodford Square under police protection whilst a motion against the Government was being debated across the street; the $2 million flag; the abandoned hospitals and health centres; The 30 per cent SEA failures year after year with no one knowing why; the lack of diversification of the economy whilst inviting foreign companies to exploit gas and oil under conditions unknown to most of the population; the squandering of oil and gas money for a second time, $300 billion gone; the deal with Abu Bakr prior to the 2002 election, as outlined by the Privy Council;

The inefficient Licensing Offices, District Revenue Offices, courts, Passport Office and ministries; the traffic; the enormity of corruption within the state-owned special purpose entities; the Tarouba stadium; the scholarship scandal involving the Ministry of Culture; NAPA; the Scarborough Hospital; the state-of-the-art radar that does not work; the three blimps; the fast-speed radar boats and the attack helicopters; the destruction of the Grand Stand and a large part of the Savannah; The crippling of the calypso tents; the ICC Cricket World Cup “brown bag“ fiasco; the desalination plants; the wonderful smelters; the berm at Beetham; a Minister of Finance and author of a book on ethics who did not understand the meaning of “fixed deposit;” Clico; The property tax; the “palace;” the bacchanal surrounding the Guanapo church and the threats to reporters investigating it; the blatant attempts to give the Government control over the judiciary as outlined by the present Chief Justice; The constitutional draft, written by unknowns, that would make the PM an “executive president” with control over everything, a la Burnham; the incom- prehensible security details and blaring sirens that we have had to tolerate in an island the size of a large American city; the surprise visit to the radio station; the insulting entrance into Mr Villafana’s property; the prophetess and the intrusion of religion into what is supposed to be a secular state.

Above all, the “gimme gimme dependency syndrome” the PNM has encouraged amongst its supporters and the pandering to the lowest common denominator, ie, race. Race equals group prejudice equals group politics in T&T. This sense of group functions along two important levels. One level involves the obvious dimension of domination, of hierarchical ordering and positioning as typified by the political cry: “Trinidad is PNM country.” A second critical level, however, involves a dimension of exclusion and inclusion, of socio-emotional embrace and rejection. “We culture.” This exclusion and inclusion dimension, again, invokes an emotional basis to the sense of group. Listen to the radio talk shows and hear the various tribes talk about “those people!” Race prejudice is a protective device. It functions, however shortsightedly, to preserve the integrity and the position of the dominant group, even if there is corruption, incompetence and lack of integrity.

It is race that is behind the commess that is going on in T&T, the tacit understanding that it is all gobar but that it is our gobar so it is all right. The righteous concerns within the PNM apparently have given in. That must change. Politics in T&T is a politics waiting to be broken. Until we recognise this, until we move away from race as the defining feature of our politics, we will struggle. The island is too small. From my reading of the issues, it is the present PNM party, molded in the image of one man, that is holding most to race. They have failed us. It is the coalition of parties that offers the best hope of escape from the politics of race. They may fail again but there is no alternative. I will support the People’s Partnership coalition next Monday.

steupse..just the beginning alone made me not want to read anymore ..we backwards in T&T
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 22, 2010, 11:15:48 PM
Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Tough call. Alicia Hospedales is the incumbent. Anna Maria Mora is a strong contender with serious social intervention credibility. Expect a strong sympathy pull for Hospedales, who was doused in paint by a political dissenter, but Mora is well-known, capable and intelligent. I give her the nod.
Winner: Anna Maria Mora.

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Wow. Barataria and San Juan should love Joseph Ross, except that he’s so utterly bland and when he’s not, so reflexively unlikable that Fuad Khan has a real shot at taking this one home. Both men sport likeable public smiles and Joseph Ross has been the public eye a lot as Minister of Tourism, except that may not actually turn out to be an asset if anyone remembers what he’s been saying.
Winner: Joseph Ross.

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Here are two people everybody knows. Anil may not be your cup of tea, but Karen’s a strong drink even for the experienced political imbiber.
Winner: Anil Roberts

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
If there’s anyone who’s more universally disliked than the Prime Minister in this election, it’s Colm Imbert, who is widely regarded as his facilitator in matters of public works. Nobody’s denying the value of the overpass and the water taxis executed under Imbert’s transport portfolio, but oh, the man sooo irritating.
Garvin’s largely a political unknown, despite contesting an election or two in the past, but he has one unerring advantage in Diego Martin North/East and that’s not being Colm Imbert.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Verna St Rose Greaves


Yeah..... the exact opposite is going to happen in these seats. Pure rumtalk. I could also add Tobago West to the list. 

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 11:19:04 PM
Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Tough call. Alicia Hospedales is the incumbent. Anna Maria Mora is a strong contender with serious social intervention credibility. Expect a strong sympathy pull for Hospedales, who was doused in paint by a political dissenter, but Mora is well-known, capable and intelligent. I give her the nod.
Winner: Anna Maria Mora.

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Wow. Barataria and San Juan should love Joseph Ross, except that he’s so utterly bland and when he’s not, so reflexively unlikable that Fuad Khan has a real shot at taking this one home. Both men sport likeable public smiles and Joseph Ross has been the public eye a lot as Minister of Tourism, except that may not actually turn out to be an asset if anyone remembers what he’s been saying.
Winner: Joseph Ross.

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Here are two people everybody knows. Anil may not be your cup of tea, but Karen’s a strong drink even for the experienced political imbiber.
Winner: Anil Roberts

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
If there’s anyone who’s more universally disliked than the Prime Minister in this election, it’s Colm Imbert, who is widely regarded as his facilitator in matters of public works. Nobody’s denying the value of the overpass and the water taxis executed under Imbert’s transport portfolio, but oh, the man sooo irritating.
Garvin’s largely a political unknown, despite contesting an election or two in the past, but he has one unerring advantage in Diego Martin North/East and that’s not being Colm Imbert.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Verna St Rose Greaves


Yeah..... the exact opposite is going to happen in these seats. Pure rumtalk. I could also add Tobago West to the list. 



Rum/Whisky/Beer  dey so intoxicated it eh funny
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 22, 2010, 11:21:10 PM
is babash we jinking  ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 22, 2010, 11:23:11 PM
is babash we jinking  ;D

Have 2 b
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 22, 2010, 11:27:51 PM
And doh forget the  misleading will continue to take place before during and after.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 22, 2010, 11:44:09 PM
(http://guardian.co.tt/files/front_cover/23%20may%20pg1.png)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: big dawg on May 23, 2010, 05:48:51 AM
(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz292/fromsando/table1.png?t=1274615475)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: signal on May 23, 2010, 06:23:22 AM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.

No luv dat is rum talk is d way dey behave when u interact wit dem on d street/gas station etc. Anil say we win ahready. 

Who de ass is dis "dem" and dis "we" I keep hearing bout?

i deciphered that code talk higher up already as seen through the eyes of the people who vex with the pnm but voting for them anyways...,.......them is indian which equals is UNC.....and we is negro which equals  PNM.....


not really..We is you and your peeps...and them is dem and they peeps
like in 95 when unc won, all over this country (except in tobago), yuh had written up on every available wall...'is we time now'...who was the 'we' then?...it all depends on the side of the fence you standing.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 23, 2010, 07:03:24 AM
hmmm i wonder if i can log in with a different name and pad the results of the poll above?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 23, 2010, 07:10:12 AM
anybody see the ad with kamla as the puppet?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: these ads is real kicks yes...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 23, 2010, 07:14:11 AM
All this set of back and forth, back and forth. Anyone of allyuh pundits know why we are having an early elections YET???

Come Tuesday next week, its a continuation of the same assness - doesn't matter if it's the same people or ah coalition. Same assness will happen. Some of allyuh doing like it will be the dawning of a new beginning. Try and remember is the same set of recycled politicians.

All these policies/promises will come and meet we still pending whenever next elections is called.

Race? Man fack face, all ah allyuh hafta to live and work with each other STILL.



prophetess? is that u???  ;D

Nah it's God! Watch meh good!

But under serious talk sammy. I don't know your age or how much elections/change of government you have seen. But in previous elections and all these promises and policies talk - has any come to play? Any of significance that is? How long did it take to build ONE overpass? We expect 10 hospitals and 6 more highways before the next scheduled elections?

Is only in Trinidad and Tobago, a man and his 114 murderers can kill people, burn down buildings turn a whole country upside down, hold a government hostage and yet be able to form a party for elections.  I'm not wishing nobody no damn good luck bullshit. Come Tuesday is back to working with one another. and hopefully a band launch can bring us back together. Go wine on something.....anything!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: TriniCana on May 23, 2010, 07:24:38 AM
Hey I have a question.

The degrees received from the University of TnT or the other one (forgot name), are they recognized in north america or any other country?  Not talking about those at Roytec and the Uwee.

I was reading some comments on a UNC/COP/TOP/ABC/MACO uhmm whatever else yes, forum and some of the people were saying that they were not. So now i'm wondering why not and does this make any damn sense to go to school and only have our degrees recognized in the Caribbean only?

Or are these people mis leading in their comments.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 23, 2010, 07:57:15 AM
Hey I have a question.

The degrees received from the University of TnT or the other one (forgot name), are they recognized in north america or any other country?  Not talking about those at Roytec and the Uwee.

I was reading some comments on a UNC/COP/TOP/ABC/MACO uhmm whatever else yes, forum and some of the people were saying that they were not. So now i'm wondering why not and does this make any damn sense to go to school and only have our degrees recognized in the Caribbean only?

Or are these people mis leading in their comments.
The UTT received accreditation locally and established affiliations with some major universities in the United States and Britain.  I don't think they have international recognition as yet. I understand your point but I want to emphasize that UTT only started in 2003 and meaningful operations at around academic year 05/06. Moreover it should be noted that the intention is to train students for local industry.

Also note (http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTPROSPECTS/Resources/334934-1199807908806/Trinidad&Tobago.pdf)that World Bank statistics pointed to an graduate immigration rate of more the 78 % in T&T, that was in the year 2000, before the introduction of GATE.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 23, 2010, 07:58:23 AM
Hey I have a question.

The degrees received from the University of TnT or the other one (forgot name), are they recognized in north america or any other country?  Not talking about those at Roytec and the Uwee.

I was reading some comments on a UNC/COP/TOP/ABC/MACO uhmm whatever else yes, forum and some of the people were saying that they were not. So now i'm wondering why not and does this make any damn sense to go to school and only have our degrees recognized in the Caribbean only?

Or are these people mis leading in their comments.
The other school is the University of the Southern Caribbean. Do not go to that school.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 23, 2010, 08:13:24 AM
Hey I have a question.

The degrees received from the University of TnT or the other one (forgot name), are they recognized in north america or any other country?  Not talking about those at Roytec and the Uwee.

I was reading some comments on a UNC/COP/TOP/ABC/MACO uhmm whatever else yes, forum and some of the people were saying that they were not. So now i'm wondering why not and does this make any damn sense to go to school and only have our degrees recognized in the Caribbean only?

Or are these people mis leading in their comments.


is it COSTAATT that you are thinking of?

I think that the various programs are in the process of earning accreditation.  I don't think it's an unusual situation for a young tertiary institute.

I think it makes sense.  The education itself is sound and the majority of people in the system will only ever look for work in T&T or the wider Caribbean.  Many people get Associates degrees at COSTAATT and go on to do very well at UWI if that is any indication.  With these institutions in place the only thing stopping somebody from earning a degree is their capacity for putting in the work.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 23, 2010, 08:48:30 AM
The point was not to say that a Mr Imbert  and Mrs Browne equals a J. Warner or Volney, simply to point out that there are undesirables in each party.
Enjoy the wine , like a true trini the party does not start till midnight.


Which is why I said yuh couldn't be serious... there is the fact that none of their transgressions (that I know of) are on par with Warner's... and Volney's questionable personal and professional ethics.  Then there's also the fact that neither Browne nor Imbert, reviled as they may be, are being offered for positions of import within their respective parties.  Nothing against either portfolio, but Jack Warner is UNC-COP party leader-in-waiting... Volney by virtue of his professional training and status, you'd have to assume will be offered a high-ranking portfolio, greater even than that of Minister of Legal Affairs.


------------------------------


Yuh know how we Trinis (and WI's in general are) reach late and fete 'til de earlies, lol
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 23, 2010, 08:51:41 AM
it was said more than once in "The General elections thread"..it was said by Daft Trini and one time Jumbie corrected him  by saying.
Quote
"the whole indian this and negro this is what have the facking country where it is today. no responsibility for one's actions and bawl we deprived. time to get up and get... and take care of your own.
I juss facking fedup of the blatant disrespect for people on this forum."


dont know if he deleted the original statement or was the mods or deleted it..

Now no offense to de man (Daft Trini) and i am targeting him. I am just responding to your question..In fact Daft Trini went on further explain why he made that comment in that particular thread..




Daft Trini (much like Capo) you'd have to take what he says with a grain of salt, simply because when they speak of Indians they speak of themselves or their family.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 23, 2010, 08:54:41 AM
The PNM will the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

U know if dey did not behave like dey win it ahready u know like Anil say dey win ah ready dey would b no need 4 venom. They would just say hard luck and lets keep d govt honest. But nah dem go b bitter as gawl because dey eh want d best 4 TNT. Dey go continue 2 oppose evryting even legislaion dey propose like d police bills.

Both parties are behaving like they win already. Since the campaign started is a setta "Next MP for" and "Next Prime Minister" talk. Grandcharging is par for the course.

No luv dat is rum talk is d way dey behave when u interact wit dem on d street/gas station etc. Anil say we win ahready. 

Who de ass is dis "dem" and dis "we" I keep hearing bout?

i deciphered that code talk higher up already as seen through the eyes of the people who vex with the pnm but voting for them anyways...,.......them is indian which equals is UNC.....and we is negro which equals  PNM.....


not really..We is you and your peeps...and them is dem and they peeps
like in 95 when unc won, all over this country (except in tobago), yuh had written up on every available wall...'is we time now'...who was the 'we' then?...it all depends on the side of the fence you standing.

signal, yuh wastin time tryin to explain to sammy. he talkin bout who pushin race talk when he clearly is d one tryin to push bobol. clearly he doh know what a pronoun is.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 23, 2010, 08:55:46 AM
I don't live in Chaguanas East and I am not voting for Jack Warner. Neither am I in St. Joseph voting for Volney. If I had that privilege, the choice would be easily made.
It sounds, that by your thinking, a vote for the coalition is a vote for either of these gentlemen. Then I'm sure you can understand why some people think that a vote for any PNM candidate is a vote (and endorsement) for Manning and his herd of sheep.

Yes, absolutely.  Whether they carry their respective seats or not you can bet your bottom dollar that either will hold positions of great influence within a UNC-COP government.

As for your second supposition... of course I understand, I have sufficient reservations myself about Manning to understand why people would want to vote anti-PNM.  What I don't understand is why you think it necessary to ask me the question... I never questioned the anyone's voting preferences *shrug*


EDIT:

I like Kamla... but I think she real bounce she head when it comes to this Faustian bargain she strike with Jack.  Yuh know what they say about laying down with dogs.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 09:32:12 AM
http://guardian.co.tt/commentary/columnist/2010/05/18/those-people

Those people
David E Bratt MD
Published: 18 May 2010
David E Bratt MD

Quote
Overheard in the Four Roads Hi-Lo supermarket last week: “Boy, yuh make up yuh mind yet? Make sure yuh vote for we or dey go send we back to Africa.” The speaker was an elderly pensioner talking to another.

logoThis election was always about race. Even if scientists say there is no such thing, anecdotes trump research any time. I had intended to repeat the litany of woes about the present Manning administration: lack of governance; the hundreds of millions wasted on grand-charging at summits; empty skyscrapers; kidnappings which the Government thinks is a joke; The failure to stop the 3,000 murders and the unspoken fear that the ruling party was part of it through its dealings with “community leaders;” Cepep; Udecott and the Uff Commission of Enquiry; Calder Hart and his unbelievable closeness to the Prime Minister; perjury allegations that have gone nowhere; Rowley’s accusations and flip flop;

Political interference with the appointments of the Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecution; the illegal coat-of-arms on the PM’s car; the condition of President’s House; the Integrity Commission debacles; the indecent dependency on foreign consultants and Chinese workers; candalous procurement processes; The hasty attempts to arrest a Chief Justice on a Friday afternoon; discrimination against the Maha Sabha in granting a FM radio broadcasting licence; the emasculation of the EMA; the illegal rally in Woodford Square under police protection whilst a motion against the Government was being debated across the street; the $2 million flag; the abandoned hospitals and health centres; The 30 per cent SEA failures year after year with no one knowing why; the lack of diversification of the economy whilst inviting foreign companies to exploit gas and oil under conditions unknown to most of the population; the squandering of oil and gas money for a second time, $300 billion gone; the deal with Abu Bakr prior to the 2002 election, as outlined by the Privy Council;

The inefficient Licensing Offices, District Revenue Offices, courts, Passport Office and ministries; the traffic; the enormity of corruption within the state-owned special purpose entities; the Tarouba stadium; the scholarship scandal involving the Ministry of Culture; NAPA; the Scarborough Hospital; the state-of-the-art radar that does not work; the three blimps; the fast-speed radar boats and the attack helicopters; the destruction of the Grand Stand and a large part of the Savannah; The crippling of the calypso tents; the ICC Cricket World Cup “brown bag“ fiasco; the desalination plants; the wonderful smelters; the berm at Beetham; a Minister of Finance and author of a book on ethics who did not understand the meaning of “fixed deposit;” Clico; The property tax; the “palace;” the bacchanal surrounding the Guanapo church and the threats to reporters investigating it; the blatant attempts to give the Government control over the judiciary as outlined by the present Chief Justice; The constitutional draft, written by unknowns, that would make the PM an “executive president” with control over everything, a la Burnham; the incom- prehensible security details and blaring sirens that we have had to tolerate in an island the size of a large American city; the surprise visit to the radio station; the insulting entrance into Mr Villafana’s property; the prophetess and the intrusion of religion into what is supposed to be a secular state.

Above all, the “gimme gimme dependency syndrome” the PNM has encouraged amongst its supporters and the pandering to the lowest common denominator, ie, race. Race equals group prejudice equals group politics in T&T. This sense of group functions along two important levels. One level involves the obvious dimension of domination, of hierarchical ordering and positioning as typified by the political cry: “Trinidad is PNM country.” A second critical level, however, involves a dimension of exclusion and inclusion, of socio-emotional embrace and rejection. “We culture.” This exclusion and inclusion dimension, again, invokes an emotional basis to the sense of group. Listen to the radio talk shows and hear the various tribes talk about “those people!” Race prejudice is a protective device. It functions, however shortsightedly, to preserve the integrity and the position of the dominant group, even if there is corruption, incompetence and lack of integrity.

It is race that is behind the commess that is going on in T&T, the tacit understanding that it is all gobar but that it is our gobar so it is all right. The righteous concerns within the PNM apparently have given in. That must change. Politics in T&T is a politics waiting to be broken. Until we recognise this, until we move away from race as the defining feature of our politics, we will struggle. The island is too small. From my reading of the issues, it is the present PNM party, molded in the image of one man, that is holding most to race. They have failed us. It is the coalition of parties that offers the best hope of escape from the politics of race. They may fail again but there is no alternative. I will support the People’s Partnership coalition next Monday.

boy not a man jack could comment negatively about this article in the Guardian..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 23, 2010, 10:05:05 AM
anybody see the ad with kamla as the puppet?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: these ads is real kicks yes...

it rivals the chipanddales one. i cant believe tv stations allow to show this
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ZTkbYurvVlA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTkbYurvVlA
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Boodsy on May 23, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
anybody see the ad with kamla as the puppet?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: these ads is real kicks yes...

it rivals the chipanddales one. i cant believe tv stations allow to show this
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ZTkbYurvVlA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTkbYurvVlA
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 23, 2010, 11:03:27 AM
anybody see the ad with kamla as the puppet?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: these ads is real kicks yes...

it rivals the chipanddales one. i cant believe tv stations allow to show this
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZTkbYurvVlA

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 23, 2010, 12:22:01 PM
yeh it sweet lol
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Conquering Lion on May 23, 2010, 12:56:04 PM
anybody see the ad with kamla as the puppet?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: these ads is real kicks yes...
[/quote]
it rivals the chipanddales one. i cant believe tv stations allow to show this
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ZTkbYurvVlA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTkbYurvVlA
[/quote]
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
[/quote]

Yeah it is real kicks, but on a serious note the last frame says it all... and it goes back to the article that talks about the race dilemma on both sides. It have plenty people fed up with manning and he chupidness, but can't swallow the pill that they have to vote for an Indian (and female) prime minister. They actually considering giving Manning validation for his dotishness by giving him a mandate for another 5 years.... and dey making all kinda excuses not to vote for Kamla and dem. They would not even consider that PNM probably needs to get rid of Manning and start fresh again.

On the flipside there's the message that Kamla is only a puppet and if "Jack and dem in control," the East Indian interests will not be served.

Interesting to see what will happen come Monday. Allyuh take lyrics.........................(and check the year!) 1987......lol

http://www.youtube.com/v/C3XPLSPvcKY&hl=en_US&fs=1&
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dinho on May 23, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
anybody see the ad with kamla as the puppet?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: these ads is real kicks yes...

it rivals the chipanddales one. i cant believe tv stations allow to show this
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ZTkbYurvVlA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTkbYurvVlA

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 23, 2010, 02:25:42 PM
I don't live in Chaguanas East and I am not voting for Jack Warner. Neither am I in St. Joseph voting for Volney. If I had that privilege, the choice would be easily made.
It sounds, that by your thinking, a vote for the coalition is a vote for either of these gentlemen. Then I'm sure you can understand why some people think that a vote for any PNM candidate is a vote (and endorsement) for Manning and his herd of sheep.

Yes, absolutely.  Whether they carry their respective seats or not you can bet your bottom dollar that either will hold positions of great influence within a UNC-COP government.

As for your second supposition... of course I understand, I have sufficient reservations myself about Manning to understand why people would want to vote anti-PNM.  What I don't understand is why you think it necessary to ask me the question... I never questioned the anyone's voting preferences *shrug*


EDIT:

I like Kamla... but I think she real bounce she head when it comes to this Faustian bargain she strike with Jack.  Yuh know what they say about laying down with dogs.

Was just responding to your comment about my sig. I know you haven't questioned anyone's voter preferences, and i was more interested in others seeing your response than in you answering the question, if you get what i mean.

Of course Kamla bounce her head, the same way she bounce it with Volney. But where realpolitik reigns common sense goes out the door unfortunately. Political campaigns cost money and all the Bas financiers own tied up in lawyer fees or being with held.

When is a choice between being mauled by the pitbulls (they say they love children) and ketching fleas from the pompeks I taking fleas any day. And yes I'm fully aware is real fleas in we mudda a$$.
But I done stock up on sevins powder long time now.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 23, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
lol even the thread votes too close to call, but UNC have the edge with the partnership.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Arouca/Maloney
Candidates: Alicia Hospedales, PNM and Anna Maria Mora, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Tough call. Alicia Hospedales is the incumbent. Anna Maria Mora is a strong contender with serious social intervention credibility. Expect a strong sympathy pull for Hospedales, who was doused in paint by a political dissenter, but Mora is well-known, capable and intelligent. I give her the nod.
Winner: Anna Maria Mora.

Barataria/San Juan
Candidates: Joseph Ross, PNM and Fuad Khan, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Wow. Barataria and San Juan should love Joseph Ross, except that he’s so utterly bland and when he’s not, so reflexively unlikable that Fuad Khan has a real shot at taking this one home. Both men sport likeable public smiles and Joseph Ross has been the public eye a lot as Minister of Tourism, except that may not actually turn out to be an asset if anyone remembers what he’s been saying.
Winner: Joseph Ross.

D’Abadie/O’Meara
Candidates: Karen Nunez-Teshiera, PNM and Anil Roberts, UNC-CoP Coalition.
Here are two people everybody knows. Anil may not be your cup of tea, but Karen’s a strong drink even for the experienced political imbiber.
Winner: Anil Roberts

Diego Martin North/East
Candidates: Colm Imbert, PNM and Garvin Nicholas, UNC-CoP Coalition.
If there’s anyone who’s more universally disliked than the Prime Minister in this election, it’s Colm Imbert, who is widely regarded as his facilitator in matters of public works. Nobody’s denying the value of the overpass and the water taxis executed under Imbert’s transport portfolio, but oh, the man sooo irritating.
Garvin’s largely a political unknown, despite contesting an election or two in the past, but he has one unerring advantage in Diego Martin North/East and that’s not being Colm Imbert.
Winner: Garvin Nicholas

San Fernando East
Candidates: Patrick Manning, PNM and Carol Cuffy-Dowlat, UNC-CoP Coalition.
I’m feeling a big upset here. The sentiments regarding the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, Patrick Manning, are sharply polarised and this is where it will play out.
Winner: Carol Cuffy-Dowlat

St Anns East
Candidates: Joanne Thomas, PNM and Verna St Rose Greaves, UNC-CoP Coalition.
This should be a safe bet. St Anns East has been PNM since it was established except for Lincoln Myers’ tenure in the 1986 NAR sweep. I don’t think that will happen this year. Verna’s smart, persuasive and you don’t want her to shake her water bottle at you. No you don’t.
Winner: Verna St Rose Greaves


Yeah..... the exact opposite is going to happen in these seats. Pure rumtalk. I could also add Tobago West to the list. 



Rum/Whisky/Beer  dey so intoxicated it eh funny


Typical trinitis. Like you miss the most important part of the article:
Quote
People who “call the elections” usually have the capacity to do polls, come to the table with an extensive understanding of political history and degrees to match and enjoy some reputation.

I am not one of those people.

So here are my election predictions, based on nothing more than a casual remembrance of who these people are in public life, the general public perception of them and, frankly, what they look like in their photographs.

This is really a test of my theory that the majority of people who show up in a polling station with no strong commitment to one party or another make their choices on nothing more than one or more of my own criteria for judgement.
On May 25th, we’ll all know just how valid a process this might be.

The fact that people are even commenting on the quality of the prediction beggars belief
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Midknight on May 23, 2010, 02:56:08 PM
My fellow forumites...

I do believe that some of the words and actions we have seen in the last week and a half, prove that this election campaign has overstayed its welcome. Commandeering the nation's television stations for politicking, defacing the PM's residence, Mariano Brown's office, Errol Mcleod's office, "running" potential candidates on walkabouts, telling an 81 year old man expressing his political opinion to "stop making a fool of himself...you are 81 years old", bringing candidate's families into disrepute, carjacking candidates vehicles and stealing their documents, dousing candidates with paint, throwing water bottles into candidates vehicles, airing frankly unsavoury ads etc etc prove to me that we are taking this way too seriously, exhorting supporters to "deal with the media" particularly when contrasted with our general lackadaisical nature.

I pray that on May 24th, every single eligble person goes out and votes, even if only to express their displeasure at the lack of options given to them, in order to celebrate the luxury of belonging to a democracy.

I pray, and I have faith in my people, that regardless of the result, on May 25th, we will go back to our normal frame of life:

We will push our paper, we will cut our cane, we will sell our produce, we will fix our cars, we will build our buildings, we will sell our advertising space, we will sing and we will dance, we will complain, we will gripe, we will smile and we will laugh, we will love our football and we will love our cricket, we will suffer when West Indies fail and crash when T&T falters, we will beam when Ganga scores runs and jump when Kenwyne backflips, and cheer when either of the Marcs earns a medal. We will eat our doubles, and dish out our pelau, we will go to our weddings and our prayers, and our wakes and our funerals.

However, while we do this, one thing would have changed: we will be aware of our power, and of our maturity, and we will not let this happen again. We shall demand leadership that does not put us in between the devil, the deep blue sea, and the jagged rocks. We will make it plainly obvious that if those who seek to lead us do not get their act in order they will be made irrelevant by a people willing to forge their own destiny together, despite their differences and their differences of opinion.

I pray that on May 25th, we remember that "how we vote is not how we party", and that a people gets the politics it deserves. I hope that on May 25th, we don't simply stay the course, nor do we simply rise.
I pray that on May 25th we rise above the course we have taken, before and during this campaign.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 23, 2010, 03:23:51 PM
My fellow forumites...

I do believe that some of the words and actions we have seen in the last week and a half, prove that this election campaign has overstayed its welcome. Commandeering the nation's television stations for politicking, defacing the PM's residence, Mariano Brown's office, Errol Mcleod's office, "running" potential candidates on walkabouts, telling an 81 year old man expressing his political opinion to "stop making a fool of himself...you are 81 years old", bringing candidate's families into disrepute, carjacking candidates vehicles and stealing their documents, dousing candidates with paint, throwing water bottles into candidates vehicles, airing frankly unsavoury ads etc etc prove to me that we are taking this way too seriously, exhorting supporters to "deal with the media" particularly when contrasted with our general lackadaisical nature.

I pray that on May 24th, every single eligble person goes out and votes, even if only to express their displeasure at the lack of options given to them, in order to celebrate the luxury of belonging to a democracy.

I pray, and I have faith in my people, that regardless of the result, on May 25th, we will go back to our normal frame of life:

We will push our paper, we will cut our cane, we will sell our produce, we will fix our cars, we will build our buildings, we will sell our advertising space, we will sing and we will dance, we will complain, we will gripe, we will smile and we will laugh, we will love our football and we will love our cricket, we will suffer when West Indies fail and crash when T&T falters, we will beam when Ganga scores runs and jump when Kenwyne backflips, and cheer when either of the Marcs earns a medal. We will eat our doubles, and dish out our pelau, we will go to our weddings and our prayers, and our wakes and our funerals.

However, while we do this, one thing would have changed: we will be aware of our power, and of our maturity, and we will not let this happen again. We shall demand leadership that does not put us in between the devil, the deep blue sea, and the jagged rocks. We will make it plainly obvious that if those who seek to lead us do not get their act in order they will be made irrelevant by a people willing to forge their own destiny together, despite their differences and their differences of opinion.

I pray that on May 25th, we remember that "how we vote is not how we party", and that a people gets the politics it deserves. I hope that on May 25th, we don't simply stay the course, nor do we simply rise.
I pray that on May 25th we rise above the course we have taken, before and during this campaign.

good post midknight. i agree with most of the sentiments expressed  :beermug:


however, please email a copy of this  post to uncle dookeran cuz clearly he has other ideas

 http://indiaempire.com/v1/2010/may/winston_dookeran.asp

chelck d last paragraph. i doh know bout everybody else. but dat statement he made there leavin a very sour taste in my mouth
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: bill on May 23, 2010, 03:48:42 PM
lol even the thread votes too close to call, but UNC have the edge with the partnership.

This poll a little suspect as this thread started before the parliment was even disolved. Plus it also have UNC,COP and NJAC as 3 seperate groups which is not quite the best in the context of this election. Also I ent figure out who is "Other".
Suggest you vote in the link below (this one also too close to call  ;D)

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=49359.0
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on May 23, 2010, 04:17:56 PM
My fellow forumites...

I do believe that some of the words and actions we have seen in the last week and a half, prove that this election campaign has overstayed its welcome. Commandeering the nation's television stations for politicking, defacing the PM's residence, Mariano Brown's office, Errol Mcleod's office, "running" potential candidates on walkabouts, telling an 81 year old man expressing his political opinion to "stop making a fool of himself...you are 81 years old", bringing candidate's families into disrepute, carjacking candidates vehicles and stealing their documents, dousing candidates with paint, throwing water bottles into candidates vehicles, airing frankly unsavoury ads etc etc prove to me that we are taking this way too seriously, exhorting supporters to "deal with the media" particularly when contrasted with our general lackadaisical nature.

I pray that on May 24th, every single eligble person goes out and votes, even if only to express their displeasure at the lack of options given to them, in order to celebrate the luxury of belonging to a democracy.

I pray, and I have faith in my people, that regardless of the result, on May 25th, we will go back to our normal frame of life:

We will push our paper, we will cut our cane, we will sell our produce, we will fix our cars, we will build our buildings, we will sell our advertising space, we will sing and we will dance, we will complain, we will gripe, we will smile and we will laugh, we will love our football and we will love our cricket, we will suffer when West Indies fail and crash when T&T falters, we will beam when Ganga scores runs and jump when Kenwyne backflips, and cheer when either of the Marcs earns a medal. We will eat our doubles, and dish out our pelau, we will go to our weddings and our prayers, and our wakes and our funerals.

However, while we do this, one thing would have changed: we will be aware of our power, and of our maturity, and we will not let this happen again. We shall demand leadership that does not put us in between the devil, the deep blue sea, and the jagged rocks. We will make it plainly obvious that if those who seek to lead us do not get their act in order they will be made irrelevant by a people willing to forge their own destiny together, despite their differences and their differences of opinion.

I pray that on May 25th, we remember that "how we vote is not how we party", and that a people gets the politics it deserves. I hope that on May 25th, we don't simply stay the course, nor do we simply rise.
I pray that on May 25th we rise above the course we have taken, before and during this campaign.

good post midknight. i agree with most of the sentiments expressed  :beermug:


however, please email a copy of this  post to uncle dookeran cuz clearly he has other ideas

http://indiaempire.com/v1/2010/may/winston_dookeran.asp

chelck d last paragraph. i doh know bout everybody else. but dat statement he made there leavin a very sour taste in my mouth
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The statements quoted by Winston Dookeran points to  the deeply embedded issues which are slightly below the surface each time we come to elections in this country. As long as there is this undercurrent of cleaving to ethnic divide as oppose to a NATIONAL IDENTITY as T& T nationals, we will always have the perception that one group is driving the political will and clamoring to power.

We are not in South Africa; we are not in a nation that is build on tribal laws and tribal claims to representation nor are we a nation that clings to the notion of a caste system that reduces the worth of individuals based on salient and not so salient features yet we act as if the political will to shape our society and to assert power is based on an ethnic vote.

I grew up as a child in the 50's attended school in the 60's and I experienced the  political clashes and the old  contention of PNM versus DLP. As  a form five student in the late 60's I at one time took an interest in the  politics of the then TAPIA party although I was bias to the political ideologies of Dr. Eric Williams.

Over the years, I have seen an increase in the discourse of a National Identity. There appears to be an alarming outcry by those who are seeking power to attest some form of injustice to their ethnicity.  If in fact  our ancestral and historical divide is so salient in some eyes, then I reiterate the fact that  for some who are seeking power, it is a selfish endeavor rather that an altruistic one to serve the good and the benefit of a nation in dire straits.

The issues faced by many are far more immediate than those like Winston Dookeran who appears to be seeking  positions of authority to assert their own  personal and ethnic identities. We are a pluralistic society- that is:

This is a form of society which is made up of people from different ethnic, religous and cultural backgrounds. A society which embraces minority groups and is tolerant towards them.


plu·ral·ism  (plr-lzm)
n.
1. The condition of being multiple or plural.
2.
a. A condition in which numerous distinct ethnic, religious, or cultural groups are present and tolerated within a society.
b. The belief that such a condition is desirable or socially beneficial.



Why is it that there are those who are bend on always  laying down the  'race card' at times when they feel  that the  emotions of the masses are most vulnerable?

Are there more urgent issues to put forth for all:

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 23, 2010, 04:23:01 PM
Was just responding to your comment about my sig. I know you haven't questioned anyone's voter preferences, and i was more interested in others seeing your response than in you answering the question, if you get what i mean.

Of course Kamla bounce her head, the same way she bounce it with Volney. But where realpolitik reigns common sense goes out the door unfortunately. Political campaigns cost money and all the Bas financiers own tied up in lawyer fees or being with held.

When is a choice between being mauled by the pitbulls (they say they love children) and ketching fleas from the pompeks I taking fleas any day. And yes I'm fully aware is real fleas in we mudda a$$.
But I done stock up on sevins powder long time now.


I ent so sure ah de mauling vs. fleas analogy nah... with Jack yuh might still end up getting maul after all de fleas  :-\
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on May 23, 2010, 04:35:24 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 04:58:47 PM

By Martin Daly...http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/nart?id=161674866&weba=NWSOpinion

Quote
Squeaky bum time
Martin Daly
Sunday, May 23rd 2010

We have reached the end of the political campaign for the general election to be held tomorrow, May 24, 2010. Borrowing a delightful phrase, which is used by British sports commentators to describe the tension players feel nearing the end of a close contest, ’it is squeaky bum time’. There are a lot of squeaky bums in Balisier House and Rienzi Complex and, sometime after midnight, there will also be tears.

The election remains close because no one can accurately poll the disenchanted People’s National Movement (PNM) supporters. They will wake up tomorrow still volatile and uncertain whether to hold their noses and vote for a party led by Mr Manning. If they, ’the don’t knows’, abstain, the coalition will bag 22 or 23 seats.

The campaigns of the two parties were intense, frequently nasty, and uniformly unsatisfactory because so little platform time was devoted to a coherent exposition of policy issues. Manning ran away from debating Kamla. She left us wanting when interviewed by Shelly Dass, although, to be fair, the interview questions were dis-organised and rushed.

Except for Dr Rowley, the PNM has made no reference on the platform to the Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago (UDecott) or Calder Hart. It has ducked and has therefore portrayed itself as approving of alleged perjury, corruption and nepotism.

However, in a highly stage managed television interview, aided and abetted by three hand-picked, pusillanimous journalists, (a modus operandi apparently to be repeated this evening), Mr Manning tried to tell us that the involvement of Hart and Udecott in the building of a church in Guanapo Heights for his treasured spiritual adviser/prophetess was an involvement of Hart in his personal capacity. He added that reference to ’the PM’ in certain correspondence might be to the project manager.




The three journalists who let that go without a whimper were gutless. They all had an attack of squeaky bum. Mind you, I had no positive expectations of them. One of them was so thrilled that he got a pick that his approach to the interview was sugary pap. He was so sweet he nearly gave Mr Manning diabetes. Another one was visibly frightened, probably afraid of losing his state enterprise work. He served up sweet bread lobs and helped provide nice answers.


This is the UDecott election, yet the third journalist, when confronted with the Prime Minister’s smirking responses that perhaps it was in his personal capacity that Hart was involved in the church building and the PM might mean project manager, shamefully and incompetently failed to ask obvious, relevant follow up questions.

Here are a few: Do you categorically deny that PM in this letter is a reference to you? Would Mr. Hart know to whom it is referring? Have you the means to contact Mr Hart and ask him? Are you in touch with Mr Hart?

George Orwell, who so well understood how a state grows totalitarian and enmeshes citizens with Big Brother, wrote an essay entitled Politics and the English Language. An edited but extensive quotation is justified: ’In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. The inflated style itself is a kind of euphemism.


A mass of Latin words falls upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms. But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought. A bad usage can spread by tradition and imitation even among people who should and do know better’.

’Political language-and with variations this is true of all political parties-is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. One cannot change this all in a moment, but one can at least change one’s own habits, and from time to time one can even, if one jeers loudly enough, send some worn-out and useless phrase or other lump of verbal refuse into the dustbin, where it belongs’.

If one examines Orwell’s statements one can readily see support for the view that dismissing the murderous death of a young woman as collateral damage is verbal refuse and a corrupting influence on serious thought about violent crime, calculated to induce easy tolerance of it.

The campaign gimmicks have left me unsatisfied. Tomorrow when I vote, I will close my eyes when I am putting my ballot paper in the box and pretend that I am putting the Prime Minister’s contemptuous, heartless phrases into the dustbin, as recommended by Orwell, and I will likely shed another tear for Akiel Cha
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trinione on May 23, 2010, 05:02:10 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be apart of  a government?



Just goes to show how sad our politics is!.
I think people first believe they have to vote fro UNC so then they have to find a way to justify voting for Jack Warner, so they make up a story about him in their minds. If Jack was part of the PNM I guarantee that all those same people would say what a criminal he is and they cant vote for him.
Its Sad, sad, sad!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 05:07:42 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work/or trying to find work everyday..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: doc on May 23, 2010, 05:17:31 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 05:19:50 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trinione on May 23, 2010, 05:39:34 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 05:41:49 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.

So we all can assume you will not be voting for Patos ?... :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trinione on May 23, 2010, 05:43:24 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.

So we all can assume you will not be voting for Patos ?... :devil:

Yep, that is correct
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 05:44:46 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.

So we all can assume you will not be voting for Patos ?... :devil:

Yep, that is correct

Or hor ..ah had to ask since yuh was so specific about Warner and yuh forget to mention the current Prime Minister....at the end of teh day you have to choose the lesser of both evils
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trinione on May 23, 2010, 05:52:33 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.

So we all can assume you will not be voting for Patos ?... :devil:

Yep, that is correct

Or hor ..ah had to ask since yuh was so specific about Warner and yuh forget to mention the current Prime Minister....at the end of teh day you have to choose the lesser of both evils

I personally dont think much people, if any, could be worse than Jack Warner, but that is my opinion. All I saying if is you voting Jack admit you voting for a crook and not a "good" man and that you are using the lessor of 2 evils reasoning.  Don't fool yourself into thinking jack is a good person.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: doc on May 23, 2010, 06:11:48 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.
Logic is truly not a simple thing. I spoke to the fact that he was elected already and had his party won enough seats to form the government he would have been in government. He got elected then, and he now has a record of representation to run on. Ah can't make it any clearer. I am not speaking to his character.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?



I dunno maybe they get mad when they see a 2 million dollar flag on their way to work everyday..
It has been done already. He is actually running for re-election. the first run should have been more difficult as he now has a record of representing his constituency.

I think most people in here dont undertand that ..dat controversial fella (Warner) has a record for representing his constituency unlike alot of MPs..

The moral of the story for those wish to get rich from corruption is if you going to tief plenty... then make sure and give a little back to the people and everything will be ok.
Jack could never get my vote no matter what he does for his constituency, I have to look at the big picture, otherwise I am just as bad as he is.

So we all can assume you will not be voting for Patos ?... :devil:

Yep, that is correct

Or hor ..ah had to ask since yuh was so specific about Warner and yuh forget to mention the current Prime Minister....at the end of teh day you have to choose the lesser of both evils

I personally dont think much people, if any, could be worse than Jack Warner, but that is my opinion. All I saying if is you voting Jack admit you voting for a crook and not a "good" man and that you are using the lessor of 2 evils reasoning.  Don't fool yourself into thinking jack is a good person.

who said anything about "voting for a good man"...like i said lesser of two evils
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 23, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
So the choice is between two crooks. On is the current PM and the other will be accountable to the new PM if elected. So if Kamla wins and allows Jack to steal,  she will have to held accountable for him. But who do we hold accountable for our esteem Project Manager, especially if we reelect him and send him back in to do more of the same.

I appreciate everyones concern that Kamla is Warner puppet, but what of the concerns that the PNM organization is Patos company of marionettes.

No one knows who will win tomorrow, and I am not a factor in the outcome because I will not be voting. But I do hope that if the PNM looses they use the opportunity to reevaluate the current party leadership.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 23, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
As i said.....de race element sickening. From both sides. But a wrong ting is a wrong ting. And i dunno if its cuz my major composition is of one particular ethnic group means i perceive things that may be against that group better. But i do know dat irregardless of who does it...it wrong.


My brethrin pull me in a talk...talking bout issues of racism dat he experienced...how he was in a maxi..and a drunk indian man saying..."Nex week i go spit on every nigger i see!" and how because he believe indian people inherently racial..he doh like dem..so he racial with dem. And i  told him dah kinda rationale doh make sense cuz is de same dotishness dat does perpetuate de nonsense...and if he find is rel shit dem thinking like that.....it go be shit for him to think so. After rel debate..he agreed....grudgingly.


My nex brethrin telling me bout dis woman who walked into the ministry of legal affairs office and shouted to all the persons of african descent "ALLYUH TIME UP!! IS WE TIME NOW!!!". How yuh supposed to feel with that?

Or....a man i go to class with...who i cool with.....who i does do group work with.....who's the vice president of an organization for students that i am president of commenting on a video on facebook after a another classmate  with these words:

"Allyuh f**kin niggers too dotish! Manning still have allyuh in f**kin chains! All allyuh does f**king do is distress people!"

Apparently, he deleted his comments afterwards..but facebook sends emails with the replies...almost instantly.....and.....my friend still had the emails even after he deleted it. He showed me it cause he was hurt as well....cuz.....in our class...everybody is cool with everybody...or at least so we thought. How yuh supposed to deal with that?


Or a certain popular automotive forum which is particularly frequented by persons of an ethic group... where racial and psuedo racial comments happen a bit more often than not. Along with allegations about "racism" by both sides. Den yuh notice...for some reason....the cuss filter knows to change the word "coolie" to "indo-trinidadian.." but "nigger" remains unchanged. Could be accidental but..who knows.

Den..yuh see dis:
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/triniBourbon/?action=view&current=29702_10150196114525716_64548571-2.jpg

And dahs just a few. And i sure persons of east indian heritage could come with any. I not saying that people of one ethnic group "more racial" than another. I just seeing it more and more now. And all that has me as worried as i am.


But persons could point fingers. Persons could fool deyself with de mamaguy. I have a choice to make....you have yours......you free to chose just as i free to chose. Dahs all. But.....i cyar force nobody to see it like me.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 23, 2010, 06:58:57 PM
True true bourbon, really sad...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 23, 2010, 07:20:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?id=761050723&pid=12676239&fbid=10150197714040724 (http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?id=761050723&pid=12676239&fbid=10150197714040724)

One comment from Krishan Madmax Saroop to a picture of the PNM rally

"yuh know one bomb in there and all the friggin crime problem done"

I don't dispute that racism is 2 way street but I would be lying if I didn't say that I notice one lane busier than the other in the last couple of weeks. There is a clear sense of anticipation of impending power. They will spit venom if and when they lose. By 'they' I mean a minority of assholes.

I changed my profile pic to one of Dr. Eric Williams my status to "I promise to respect the Government and my countrymen on Tuesday morning." I think we need cool heads. Sensible people cannot allow themselves to be caught up in an ethnic frenzy.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 07:29:21 PM
but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 07:33:43 PM
PNM supporter responding to the UNC rally on islandmix.com

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What...an Aranguez drunk fest! Everybody must head there to take a drink.



another one..

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eh eh, wha u say dumby UNC swine...u like a lil UNC hoe always spewing crap on here. When de country bankrupt under Kamla I will hear allyuh "bwoy, if we did only know we woulda never support Kamla/TOPUNCCOPNJACMND...pick up side".

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 23, 2010, 08:36:52 PM
everything is race to people, if UNC win monday what go happen to them, they go dead  ??? life goes on, if PNM life still goes on
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 23, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
Svgn S Ramdeen: I went to service commissions to query my job application and was bluntly told to 'look for vacancies in the newspapers',as i would never get through.
May 10 at 7:53am · Flag

Devant Maharaj: This cannot be right..hold on for 14 more days my friend...depends on who wins the election may influence how we act

Just cruising through facebook and come across the Indo trinidadian equality commission..Alot of racist remarks on the site but it is expected so I chose not to share those...But this one interests me..!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: royal on May 23, 2010, 09:17:49 PM
but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..


Sadly to say race is the foundation block or cornerstone of Trinidad politics.It was clearfully laid down by Williams and Capildeo TOGETHER,just more than 50 yrs ago.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 23, 2010, 09:19:32 PM
but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..


Sadly to say race is the foundation block or cornerstone of Trinidad politics.It was clearfully laid down by Williams and Capildeo TOGETHER,just more than 50 yrs ago.
so the Colonial power Machine was not a participant in that kind of politics?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: royal on May 23, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..


Sadly to say race is the foundation block or cornerstone of Trinidad politics.It was clearfully laid down by Williams and Capildeo TOGETHER,just more than 50 yrs ago.
so the Colonial power Machine was not a participant in that kind of politics?


not to the extent that we think.Capildeo never wanted to be Prime Minister,he was happy as opposition leader and Williams wanted to be Prime Minister.They therefore formed their own alliance.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 23, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
Svgn S Ramdeen: I went to service commissions to query my job application and was bluntly told to 'look for vacancies in the newspapers',as i would never get through.
May 10 at 7:53am · Flag

Devant Maharaj: This cannot be right..hold on for 14 more days my friend...depends on who wins the election may influence how we act

Just cruising through facebook and come across the Indo trinidadian equality commission..Alot of racist remarks on the site but it is expected so I chose not to share those...But this one interests me..!!
I applied for the posts of Foreign Affairs Officer and Cabinet Affairs officer in 2007, dropped the applications in with my C.V. by hand. No word yet on the outcome. I don't know anyone who recently entered the public service through the Service Commission. Most positions are now contract posts that are advertised.

Some people just like to claim discrimination.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 23, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
Svgn S Ramdeen: I went to service commissions to query my job application and was bluntly told to 'look for vacancies in the newspapers',as i would never get through.
May 10 at 7:53am · Flag

Devant Maharaj: This cannot be right..hold on for 14 more days my friend...depends on who wins the election may influence how we act

Just cruising through facebook and come across the Indo trinidadian equality commission..Alot of racist remarks on the site but it is expected so I chose not to share those...But this one interests me..!!





 :o

You dont say! You mean an organisation named the Indo-Trinidadian Equality Council ...who state  here  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Trinbago_Equality_Council) that states here on their flagged wikepedia page that:
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Indo-Trinbago Equality Council or i-Tec [pronounced eye-tech] founded by Devant Maharaj in 2008 was established in Trinidad & Tobago. ITEC is an advocacy group working to identify and eliminate racial and religious discrimination, reduce inequality and inequality of opportunity, protect human rights and build good relations, while ensuring that everyone is given a fair chance to participate in society.

You mean a sterling organization like that allowing something like racist comments on their facebook page? I'm aghast!

I highly doubt that! An upstanding citizen like Devant Maharaj who is so concerned about crime that he suggested that it be nipped in its bud by offering abortions for babies born to laventille mothers allowing something like that? Nah man...i cyar believe dat.

 ::)


but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..


Sadly to say race is the foundation block or cornerstone of Trinidad politics.It was clearfully laid down by Williams and Capildeo TOGETHER,just more than 50 yrs ago.
so the Colonial power Machine was not a participant in that kind of politics?


not to the extent that we think.Capildeo never wanted to be Prime Minister,he was happy as opposition leader and Williams wanted to be Prime Minister.They therefore formed their own alliance.


Dahs exactly what i saying. Now is all ah we to ketch.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 23, 2010, 09:50:29 PM
but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..


Sadly to say race is the foundation block or cornerstone of Trinidad politics.It was clearfully laid down by Williams and Capildeo TOGETHER,just more than 50 yrs ago.
so the Colonial power Machine was not a participant in that kind of politics?


not to the extent that we think.Capildeo never wanted to be Prime Minister,he was happy as opposition leader and Williams wanted to be Prime Minister.They therefore formed their own alliance.
I talking about the government BEFORE independence ;)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 23, 2010, 09:58:13 PM
but why is it most (or none in recent years) of our politicians (from either parties) never seriously and directly address racism in relation to TT politics during their election campaigns ..steupse..


Sadly to say race is the foundation block or cornerstone of Trinidad politics.It was clearfully laid down by Williams and Capildeo TOGETHER,just more than 50 yrs ago.
so the Colonial power Machine was not a participant in that kind of politics?


not to the extent that we think.Capildeo never wanted to be Prime Minister,he was happy as opposition leader and Williams wanted to be Prime Minister.They therefore formed their own alliance.
I talking about the government BEFORE independence ;)

in order to control the natural resources and wealth of the nation, foreign entities would need to divide the nation on race as it happened in guyana, if people dont know the history, the people of guyana were united b4 foreign entities stepped in and caused the division to control the gold mines of guyana.

in trinidad both political parties have subscribed to the same practise. except trinidadians surprisingly there is less racist conflict than our guyanese counterparts.

the leaders are used to carry out the divide, from my knowledge, both panday and manning are great friends that have used the majority base of afro-trinis and indo-trinis as pawns to climb the social ladder through race politics.

the same applied to the dlp and pnm in the early years

ALL SUMMED UP AS COUNTER-RESISTANCE

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 23, 2010, 10:11:55 PM
Million-plus listed to vote tomorrow
Published: 23 May 2010
Approximately 1,040,011 citizens are registered to vote in tomorrow’s general election. Of the number eligible to exercise the franchise at the country’s 2,156 polling stations, approximately 6,943 people have been registered as new voters by the Elections and Boundaries Commission (EBC). In 2007, 993,051 people were listed as eligible, but only 653,882 availed themselves of the opportunity. Comparing the 2007 voting list to this year’s total voting eligibles, the EBC has seen an increase of 46,960 electors over a 30-month period.

An EBC revised list dated May 7, 2010, shows the Diego Martin West seat of incumbent Dr Keith Rowley having the largest voter population, with 28,364 listed. Tobago East, which was held by People’s National Movement Rennie Dumas, who has since been replaced by candidate Gizel Thomas-Roberts, has the smallest number, with 20,424 registered voters. Following closely behind the Diego Martin West electoral district is Couva North, with 27,682 voters, while Diego Martin North/West is the third highest with an electorate of 27,647.

Comparing the old EBC list dated February 2, 2010, it showed that 1,033,068 were initially eligible. However, with the EBC’s ten-day regularisation status last month, close to 7,000 were added, taking the figure to 1,040,011. The revised list shows also that of the 1,472 polling divisions in the country, Port-of-Spain South has the most divisions, numbering 63, followed by Port-of-Spain North/St Ann’s East with 58. Chaguanas East, which was won by Mustapha Abdul-Hamid in the last general election, has 19 polling divisions, the lowest number. (SH) http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/23/million-plus-listed-vote-tomorrow
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Conquering Lion on May 24, 2010, 02:52:31 AM
Hey I have a question.

The degrees received from the University of TnT or the other one (forgot name), are they recognized in north america or any other country?  Not talking about those at Roytec and the Uwee.

I was reading some comments on a UNC/COP/TOP/ABC/MACO uhmm whatever else yes, forum and some of the people were saying that they were not. So now i'm wondering why not and does this make any damn sense to go to school and only have our degrees recognized in the Caribbean only?

Or are these people mis leading in their comments.
The other school is the University of the Southern Caribbean. Do not go to that school.

Why? I went to the school when it was CUC and it was the best decision I ever made because it was a US degree. When time to do my MAster's, you know how much gymnastics I woulda have to do if I had a degree from UWI? (as far as transcript assessment and prerequisites). To be fair, I am not sure how the school is now or if they still run the affiliate program with Andrews University. 
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 04:40:49 AM
Hey Brothers and Sisters-

Thank you for voting and participating in this discussion... It was a pleasure to hear all the responses. Sammy I'm sorry if you misconstrued my original statement in the General Elections thread... I apologize, when I talk, I'm talking from both sides of my family... I'm saddened that so many racist remarks surfaced on Facebook or other social media or in public. This is heartbreaking and equally disturbing... just 4 years ago in Germany I remember us... every creed and race feteing the night away... no black, no indian, no white... no chinee, no middle eastern, just Trini... and for Brown Trinbago  ;D

However yuh vote today... may God be with you in your decision and my you be safe...! We will all have to still coexist tomorrow.

(on a side note... whatever the outcome... I still vex that in less than a 2 weeks I will have to be supporting Landon and them fellas)

peace love and respect...

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 24, 2010, 05:14:41 AM
This is heartbreaking and equally disturbing... just 4 years ago in Germany I remember us... every creed and race feteing the night away... no black, no indian, no white... no chinee, no middle eastern, just Trini... and for Brown Trinbago  ;D

Not sure about that 4 years ago it was why it ah have no indian on the team, to which the response was that cah play football (sports)  :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 24, 2010, 05:21:24 AM
Svgn S Ramdeen: I went to service commissions to query my job application and was bluntly told to 'look for vacancies in the newspapers',as i would never get through.
May 10 at 7:53am · Flag

Devant Maharaj: This cannot be right..hold on for 14 more days my friend...depends on who wins the election may influence how we act

Just cruising through facebook and come across the Indo trinidadian equality commission..Alot of racist remarks on the site but it is expected so I chose not to share those...But this one interests me..!!

Devant Mahara turn this into a racial thing
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2010, 06:24:28 AM
This is heartbreaking and equally disturbing... just 4 years ago in Germany I remember us... every creed and race feteing the night away... no black, no indian, no white... no chinee, no middle eastern, just Trini... and for Brown Trinbago  ;D

Not sure about that 4 years ago it was why it ah have no indian on the team, to which the response was that cah play football (sports)  :devil: :devil:

Trinindian,
             Really think about. Why aren't Indian football on the Trini team. What about track and field, rugby, basketball, swimming. The same question should be asked in Guyana and Suriname where there are a large amount of Ino bros and sis. Are  you trying to say all those organizations don't like or don't want Indos to represent our respective countries?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 06:26:05 AM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4635720188_bdfb4712d9_o.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4635116621_5c4c5e8fb9_o.jpg)

Took about an hour. The signs were not helpful. They were much better organised last election. Anyway ..mission complete !
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 07:01:04 AM
(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=12616503&id=851965182)
(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=12005493&id=851965182)

Took about an hour. The signs were not helpful. They were much better organised last election. Anyway ..mission complete !

pressure.....the EBC not ready......they real disorganized. Polling clerks dont know what to do.
Is not you right index finger u supposed to dip in the ink? they make me dip my left one..

PS the ink washing off with clorax....u doh even have to scrub it...a lil rubbing will work.
 
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:09:05 AM
This is heartbreaking and equally disturbing... just 4 years ago in Germany I remember us... every creed and race feteing the night away... no black, no indian, no white... no chinee, no middle eastern, just Trini... and for Brown Trinbago  ;D

Not sure about that 4 years ago it was why it ah have no indian on the team, to which the response was that cah play football (sports)  :devil: :devil:

Trinindian,
             Really think about. Why aren't Indian football on the Trini team. What about track and field, rugby, basketball, swimming. The same question should be asked in Guyana and Suriname where there are a large amount of Ino bros and sis. Are  you trying to say all those organizations don't like or don't want Indos to represetnt oubr respective countries?

maybe he was not referring to any organisations but the general sentiment of alot of people..when we qualified for germany you never heard anyone making those comments that Trinindian previously made ??
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 09:26:54 AM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4635720188_bdfb4712d9_o.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4635116621_5c4c5e8fb9_o.jpg)

Took about an hour. The signs were not helpful. They were much better organised last election. Anyway ..mission complete !

I'm hearing bits and pieces of disorganisation from different parts of the country.  Mostly that the process is taking a bit too much longer than usual.  After all this was a snap election so I could see things not clicking like clockwork at the EBC for this one.  Over in Tobago where I voted was easy, breezy.....in and out in less than 10 minutes....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 09:35:22 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27832_403951012995_126206357995_4082121_5413004_n.jpg)

Patrick and Hazel both inking their finger for the Prime Minister/Project Manager...

Great is the PNM we shall Prevail....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 09:47:16 AM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4635720188_bdfb4712d9_o.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4635116621_5c4c5e8fb9_o.jpg)

Took about an hour. The signs were not helpful. They were much better organised last election. Anyway ..mission complete !

I'm hearing bits and pieces of disorganisation from different parts of the country.  Mostly that the process is taking a bit too much longer than usual.  After all this was a snap election so I could see things not clicking like clockwork at the EBC for this one.  Over in Tobago where I voted was easy, breezy.....in and out in less than 10 minutes....
My brother and sister voted at the same station as me. They went 9:30 and had no problems. I guess it was just the 6:00 early morning rush.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 24, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
Trinindian,
             Really think about. Why aren't Indian football on the Trini team. What about track and field, rugby, basketball, swimming. The same question should be asked in Guyana and Suriname where there are a large amount of Ino bros and sis. Are  you trying to say all those organizations don't like or don't want Indos to represent our respective countries?

I don't care to give any credence to this sentiment, but I recommend that you view the previous thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=17428.0) to read everyone else opinion if you are so inclined.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 24, 2010, 10:14:50 AM
Jah Gol you get thru in an hour? that real good compare to voting in NY. lines like3-4 hrs if you not one of the few in front
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
Jah Gol you get thru in an hour? that real good compare to voting in NY. lines like3-4 hrs if you not one of the few in front
Yeah but they were better last time.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 10:34:30 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs283.snc3/27832_403951012995_126206357995_4082121_5413004_n.jpg)

Patrick and Hazel both inking their finger for the Prime Minister/Project Manager...

Great is the PNM we shall Prevail....

you sure they vote for the pnm boy?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
I vote in bout 5 min number 68 in Couva North in my polling station. Me eh vote last election so cyah compare.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 24, 2010, 11:34:47 AM
I vote in bout 5 min number 68 in Couva North in my polling station. Me eh vote last election so cyah compare.

which one Yellow or Red
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jumbie on May 24, 2010, 11:45:16 AM
I vote in bout 5 min number 68 in Couva North in my polling station. Me eh vote last election so cyah compare.

which one Yellow or Red


She's part of the voter padding scheme so red.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 11:58:52 AM
 hearing ah talk about Manning may lose he seat in Sando, but dat have to be pure rum talk oui  :D

because if that happens then it would be the biggest upset in T&T political history thus far (even bigger than when Chambers lost he seat )
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 12:14:07 PM
pure ole talk
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: mukumsplau on May 24, 2010, 12:18:09 PM
ah hearin jack make a report to d police that junia regrello wa kill him

at d same time there is a video said to be taken this mornin of jack payin off ppl in sando west again
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 24, 2010, 12:20:27 PM
pure ole talk
might I dont know who true( somebody from Sdo'E chime in nah) he do shit wit d country but does rep dey good ???
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
lol The Guardian all over this ..check out this election update map http://guardian.co.tt/2010election
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 01:01:04 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs639.snc3/32084_398801784797_348203869797_3977590_3770761_n.jpg)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 01:12:36 PM
lol The Guardian all over this ..check out this election update map http://guardian.co.tt/2010election

that nice
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
lol The Guardian all over this ..check out this election update map http://guardian.co.tt/2010election

that nice

If only there was a way I can post the map over here on SW.NET, and the voting updates will be updated on that same map via the guardian....hmmmmm

you would basically be checking the map every minute to see the progress in votes
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 02:25:53 PM
lol The Guardian all over this ..check out this election update map http://guardian.co.tt/2010election

that nice

If only there was a way I can post the map over here on SW.NET, and the voting updates will be updated on that same map via the guardian....hmmmmm

you would basically be checking the map every minute to see the progress in votes

How come caroni central done have 200 pnm votes and 100 unc votes and de polls eh closed?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: mukumsplau on May 24, 2010, 02:37:59 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 02:54:50 PM
lol The Guardian all over this ..check out this election update map http://guardian.co.tt/2010election

that nice

If only there was a way I can post the map over here on SW.NET, and the voting updates will be updated on that same map via the guardian....hmmmmm

you would basically be checking the map every minute to see the progress in votes

How come caroni central done have 200 pnm votes and 100 unc votes and de polls eh closed?

I want to believe that is a mistake by the Guardian..from my understanding votes are counted when polls closed..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 24, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/YEuBv9dZ134

That good . dont' come in sando and do your crap.  Keep buying you Chaguanas west people. Sando is not for sale.  The EBC should look into this. no sorth of campaigning allowed on election day.  look how they make have the walk of shame.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 03:22:55 PM
Quote
Power outage hits three polling stations
Two pollings stations 2405 and 2365, located in Tamana, in the constituency of Cumuto/Manzanilla were reported hit by a power outage shortly after 6am, says outgoing Member of Parliament for the constituency Harry Partap. While the voting process was hampered, it was not stopped.
Express reporter Camille Bethel is reporting that there has also been a power cut at the Guapo Primary School Polling Station. Congress of the people candidate for Point Fortin Nyahuma Obika said he had reported to the Elections and Boundaries Commission this morning that there was a power outage at 9am and the polling station had been left in complete darkness.
"People cannot see to vote. the polling station is as black as a (photographic) dark room". He said "this is unacceptable and has to be rectified.The Sangre Grande police has also been asked to deal with an issue at the Sangre Grande Government Primary school where supporters of one party is said to be congregating outside a polling station. It is an offence to congregate outside a polling station of within 100 metres of a polling station. Three candidates are vying for the Cumuto/Manzanilla seat, the UNC Collin Partap, the PNM’s Darryl Mahabir and independent Kris Jurai.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 03:27:01 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!

Ah man start a chant..."PAY DE FOOTBALLERS!!"

AHAHAHA!!!

Buh me eh see no money hand out. I guess de make out is due to de walk about.
And oh gorm....lil children shouldnt be dey.

Buh..as usual...i hearing people with all kinda allegations. I hear bout a PNM candidate who "allegedly was canvassing on election day outside a polling station." I hear a man in st joseph who is a party strategist for UNC get ketch with some polling cards....buh..i eh get anything other than allegations from both sides...one saying is victimisation...and the other saying is voter padding.

Ah yes.....it will soon be over.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 03:45:21 PM
Link http://ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=20978


Strong support for TOP and PNM in Tobago
Sunday 23rd May, 2010

It was a showing of strong support for the PNM and TOP in Tobago today as hundreds of supporters turned out for the political rallies through the villages of the sister isle.

The bright hues of red for the PNM and the yellow of the TOP took over the island of Tobago today. Hundreds of supporters packed into cars, maxis and anything that would take them on the motorcade trail on the last leg of campaigning.

The two political parties began their rallies in Scarborough with the PNM heading East and the TOP heading West.

With the recent Hamid Ghany poll predicting the TOP insurgence in the West and the East to tight to call, Deputy Political Leader Orville London has challenged the credibility of this poll.

Meantime TOP Leader Ashworth Jack marvelled at the support his party received today and he was pleased with the poll's predictions.

With general election 2010 mere hours away, everyone says they are read to go.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 04:09:51 PM
alyuh stop voting now , voter padding in the thread  :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on May 24, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs294.snc3/28357_403500082720_546252720_4655768_4847070_n.jpg)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: royal on May 24, 2010, 04:20:09 PM
regardless of the outcome always remember people ALWAYS get the government they deserve.so we'll see if trinis want a coalition or the pnm.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: The_Ice on May 24, 2010, 04:32:43 PM
regardless of the outcome always remember people ALWAYS get the government they deserve.so we'll see if trinis want a coalition or the pnm.

true talk  :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Boodsy on May 24, 2010, 04:33:52 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs294.snc3/28357_403500082720_546252720_4655768_4847070_n.jpg)

nice... :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 24, 2010, 04:34:42 PM
A PNM defeat mightn' be the best outcome for TnT... but it mightn' be the worst either.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 24, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!

Ah man start a chant..."PAY DE FOOTBALLERS!!"

AHAHAHA!!!

Buh me eh see no money hand out. I guess de make out is due to de walk about.
And oh gorm....lil children shouldnt be dey.

Buh..as usual...i hearing people with all kinda allegations. I hear bout a PNM candidate who "allegedly was canvassing on election day outside a polling station." I hear a man in st joseph who is a party strategist for UNC get ketch with some polling cards....buh..i eh get anything other than allegations from both sides...one saying is victimisation...and the other saying is voter padding.

Ah yes.....it will soon be over.


I don’t support his presence, but I have to agree I did not see any money pass. 
And what off the comments “ Tante you cah do that live here”
“People who like rum does like each other”
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 04:42:53 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!

Ah man start a chant..."PAY DE FOOTBALLERS!!"

AHAHAHA!!!

Buh me eh see no money hand out. I guess de make out is due to de walk about.
And oh gorm....lil children shouldnt be dey.

Buh..as usual...i hearing people with all kinda allegations. I hear bout a PNM candidate who "allegedly was canvassing on election day outside a polling station." I hear a man in st joseph who is a party strategist for UNC get ketch with some polling cards....buh..i eh get anything other than allegations from both sides...one saying is victimisation...and the other saying is voter padding.

Ah yes.....it will soon be over.


I don’t support his presence, but I have to agree I did not see any money pass. 
And what off the comments “ Tante you cah do that live here”
“People who like rum does like each other”


I dont care much for Warner but I dont see the bribery in that video either..maybe he did bribe when the camera was not on, but that video only proved there are still people who would make ridiculous comments to prove they are a "die hard"..either way its kinda expected in that area of sando (which is dead pnm), dont know why warner was even dey..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 04:52:07 PM
I pondering.

The allegations of poll clerks not signing ballots. How dat go work?
If 4000 voters turn up to vote....they cross 4000 names off the list. But...when they check the ballots, quite a few are missing signatures of the poll clerks. What can be done?

If you check..and see...4000 voters ....but 5000 ballots present......and some missing signatures....then...you could infer that those ballots were planted.

If you check..and see 4000 ballots...and 4000 names crossed off the list....then you could infer that it hadda be a serious breach of proceedure..which is de responsibility of the poll clerk!

Why anybody go take a risk like dat? It eh like yuh could get away.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: daryn on May 24, 2010, 04:53:20 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!

is that Junia in the Operations jersey?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 24, 2010, 04:58:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1362752121323)


jack went down to sando west constituency TODAY!!! wit a coil to dole out bills for votes...he get he ass chase from d residents!!!

Dat ting wid de dread in de hot pink pants sweet boy!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:04:19 PM
Just heard from my sources a reporter has been attacked in St Joseph.. :-\
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:05:04 PM
Jack Warner is a real kakahole....wtf he doing campaigning on election day....real damn arse....steups!!....If Kamla loss she should look no further than Jackula.......real nasty....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:06:47 PM
Oh right....ah now remember why I came on here....

          PAGING CANA, PAGING CANA!!.....       

Ah have popcorn......where the beers??  I prefer Heineken.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:08:28 PM
I pondering.

The allegations of poll clerks not signing ballots. How dat go work?
If 4000 voters turn up to vote....they cross 4000 names off the list. But...when they check the ballots, quite a few are missing signatures of the poll clerks. What can be done?

If you check..and see...4000 voters ....but 5000 ballots present......and some missing signatures....then...you could infer that those ballots were planted.

If you check..and see 4000 ballots...and 4000 names crossed off the list....then you could infer that it hadda be a serious breach of proceedure..which is de responsibility of the poll clerk!

Why anybody go take a risk like dat? It eh like yuh could get away.

Just heard on TV 6 that a ballot without the requisite signature will not be counted as spoilt......
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
Oh right....ah now remember why I came on here....

          PAGING CANA, PAGING CANA!!.....       

Ah have popcorn......where the beers??  I prefer Heineken.... ;D ;D

Gyurl shift a little nah, let meh get ah seat and drink something too
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 24, 2010, 05:08:57 PM
I don’t support his presence, but I have to agree I did not see any money pass. 
And what off the comments “ Tante you cah do that live here”
“People who like rum does like each other”


Jack free tuh campaign wherever he want... and I doh see nutten wrong with the comments.



I nearly dead at de 'flag woman' wining up in front ah Jack doh  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:10:07 PM
Just heard from my sources a reporter has been attacked in St Joseph.. :-\

Reporter assaulted in St. Joseph

“I was roughed up and physically struck by security personnel at Mr. Swaratsingh’s office,” claims Express journalist Akile Simon.
Simon visited the Constituency office of the Member of Parliament for St. Joseph, Kennedy Swaratsingh, to speak to the MP over claims of intimidation against PNM supporters but never got the opportunity to do so.

“On entering the compound I was approached by one gentleman who said they did not want any media personnel on the compound,” says Simon.  “I proceeded to explain that I had a telephone conversation with Mr. Swaratsingh and he knew I was coming but the man called security to evict me,” Simon continues. ”One officer began pushing me and I received a blow to my back from another.”

 Inspector Silman, one of Swaratsingh’s security detail, as well as officials from the MP’s office confirmed that the incident did happen. However, they said the officers in question were neither staff members nor part of Swaratsingh’s security detail but belonged to a private security firm contracted to protect the compound. The name of the firm was not disclosed.

 Swaratsingh was not available to comment on the incident.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:11:19 PM
wait nah people stll voting in this thread ?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
I don’t support his presence, but I have to agree I did not see any money pass. 
And what off the comments “ Tante you cah do that live here”
“People who like rum does like each other”


Jack free tuh campaign wherever he want... and I doh see nutten wrong with the comments.



I nearly dead at de 'flag woman' wining up in front ah Jack doh  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Is one of the few times I see Jack look beaten and defeated.....all he money couldn't stop the humiliation....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
For the foreign based.LIVE Coverage..http://ctntworld.com/
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 05:13:03 PM
I pondering.

The allegations of poll clerks not signing ballots. How dat go work?
If 4000 voters turn up to vote....they cross 4000 names off the list. But...when they check the ballots, quite a few are missing signatures of the poll clerks. What can be done?

If you check..and see...4000 voters ....but 5000 ballots present......and some missing signatures....then...you could infer that those ballots were planted.

If you check..and see 4000 ballots...and 4000 names crossed off the list....then you could infer that it hadda be a serious breach of proceedure..which is de responsibility of the poll clerk!

Why anybody go take a risk like dat? It eh like yuh could get away.

Just heard on TV 6 that a ballot without the requisite signature will not be counted as spoilt......

Right. So following with that...this is my question.

4000 voters voted. 5000 ballots counted. 1000 without signatures.

No question marks?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:17:45 PM
I pondering.

The allegations of poll clerks not signing ballots. How dat go work?
If 4000 voters turn up to vote....they cross 4000 names off the list. But...when they check the ballots, quite a few are missing signatures of the poll clerks. What can be done?

If you check..and see...4000 voters ....but 5000 ballots present......and some missing signatures....then...you could infer that those ballots were planted.

If you check..and see 4000 ballots...and 4000 names crossed off the list....then you could infer that it hadda be a serious breach of proceedure..which is de responsibility of the poll clerk!

Why anybody go take a risk like dat? It eh like yuh could get away.

Just heard on TV 6 that a ballot without the requisite signature will not be counted as spoilt......

Right. So following with that...this is my question.

4000 voters voted. 5000 ballots counted. 1000 without signatures.

No question marks?


Right, right ah see yuh point.......hhhhhmmmm.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 05:26:04 PM
Live stream link - http://www.ctntworld.com/livestream/

Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Well I was watching CNMG and then they bring on Overand Padmore.....steups....he does just rub me the wrong way....I switch one time....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 05:31:14 PM
I pondering.

The allegations of poll clerks not signing ballots. How dat go work?
If 4000 voters turn up to vote....they cross 4000 names off the list. But...when they check the ballots, quite a few are missing signatures of the poll clerks. What can be done?

If you check..and see...4000 voters ....but 5000 ballots present......and some missing signatures....then...you could infer that those ballots were planted.

If you check..and see 4000 ballots...and 4000 names crossed off the list....then you could infer that it hadda be a serious breach of proceedure..which is de responsibility of the poll clerk!

Why anybody go take a risk like dat? It eh like yuh could get away.

Just heard on TV 6 that a ballot without the requisite signature will not be counted as spoilt......

Right. So following with that...this is my question.

4000 voters voted. 5000 ballots counted. 1000 without signatures.

No question marks?


Right, right ah see yuh point.......hhhhhmmmm.....

It could be me being cynical eh..buh i just saying.
Dey simply saying that it happen in marginals. No statement of which marginals. None. Easy for people to say anything whatsoever. But..that is a serious allegation. If the numbers add up..then the polling clerk backside on the line. Dem hadda know that. So why would they take that risk?


Someting suspect.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 05:31:21 PM
I pondering.

The allegations of poll clerks not signing ballots. How dat go work?
If 4000 voters turn up to vote....they cross 4000 names off the list. But...when they check the ballots, quite a few are missing signatures of the poll clerks. What can be done?

If you check..and see...4000 voters ....but 5000 ballots present......and some missing signatures....then...you could infer that those ballots were planted.

If you check..and see 4000 ballots...and 4000 names crossed off the list....then you could infer that it hadda be a serious breach of proceedure..which is de responsibility of the poll clerk!

Why anybody go take a risk like dat? It eh like yuh could get away.

Just heard on TV 6 that a ballot without the requisite signature will not be counted as spoilt......

Right. So following with that...this is my question.

4000 voters voted. 5000 ballots counted. 1000 without signatures.

No question marks?

yeah
right here
?? ?? ??
that cyar be right
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:38:41 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central
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Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 05:43:52 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central
how come the "Other" party have so many votes in all the ridings :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:46:32 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central
how come the "Other" party have so many votes in all the ridings :rotfl: :rotfl:

I want to believe yuh being sarcastic  :D...de constituencies with 100% votes for "other" has not started counting their votes yet...check the scenario with Couva north and Fyzabad..as of right now both parties have huge leads in those constituencies
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central

do i need to refresh this page or it automatically updating?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:49:08 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central

do i need to refresh this page or it automatically updating?

it refreshes automatically
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
check out the scenario in Pont Fortin http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (I know its still too early to claim dat seat ;D )
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 05:51:02 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central
how come the "Other" party have so many votes in all the ridings :rotfl: :rotfl:

I want to believe yuh being sarcastic  :D...de constituencies with 100% votes for "other" has not started counting their votes yet...check the scenario with Couva north and Fyzabad..as of right now both parties have huge leads in those constituencies
is just a different way to do it I guess
"Other" party should have 0 votes also...not 999999999 votes
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:52:02 PM
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Election Ridings Map -  http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/ (http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/)

thanks this is the best map so i found so far..(better than both Guardian and Express)..when you click on each constituency you can see the most recent tally of votes  :beermug:  vote count done start in caroni central
how come the "Other" party have so many votes in all the ridings :rotfl: :rotfl:

I want to believe yuh being sarcastic  :D...de constituencies with 100% votes for "other" has not started counting their votes yet...check the scenario with Couva north and Fyzabad..as of right now both parties have huge leads in those constituencies
is just a different way to do it I guess
"Other" party should have 0 votes also...not 999999999 votes

yeh i agree..a simple 0 would have made more sense..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
Interesting.....so far Joel Primus leading Chandresh Sharma in Fyzabad....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:56:09 PM
Interesting.....so far Joel Primus leading Chandresh Sharma in Fyzabad....

i know that is very surprising because its a traditional UNC seat
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 05:57:07 PM
This just in
look a couple of pictures of Jack in the National Treasury tonight
(http://moneybin.at.infoseek.co.jp/scrooge.jpg)(http://queserasara.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/scrooge-mcduck.jpg)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 05:58:15 PM
LOL Right now Jack the Ripper doing a massacre in Chaguanas West oui http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 06:05:22 PM
No one find it ironic that none of the votes in the marginal seats have been counted yet ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 06:15:45 PM
Hello all.... peeking out from my office to catch a glimpse of the real world... quick question though, what area would Lavantille and Beetham fall under?

Never mind I find the map  ;D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 06:21:39 PM
Interesting.....so far Joel Primus leading Chandresh Sharma in Fyzabad....

i know that is very surprising because its a traditional UNC seat

Yeah.  Everytime they count it, Primus leading....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 06:22:16 PM
Hello all.... peeking out from my office to catch a glimpse of the real world... quick question though, what area would Lavantille and Beetham fall under?

Laventille East/Morvant, Laventille West.....perhaps I'm not sure...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 06:23:54 PM
This poll is real kicksy. It look like people padding votes on a online forum,  :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 06:25:58 PM
Thanks ma'am, I wasn't sure if they had their own or if they were all combined under one.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 06:26:30 PM
Pay close attenton to Patos own seat (Sando East)..it go be sad if he fall in Chambers shoes..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

well let meh dream for a while
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 06:27:40 PM
Pay close attenton to Patos own seat (Sando East)..it go be sad if he fall in Chambers shoes..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

well let meh dream for a while

Steups....you stay dey....I not even bothering to entertain the thought.......Patos winning he seat......
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 06:28:35 PM
This poll is real kicksy. It look like people padding votes on a online forum,  :rotfl:

yeh
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 06:30:02 PM
Pay close attenton to Patos own seat (Sando East)..it go be sad if he fall in Chambers shoes..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

well let meh dream for a while

Steups....you stay dey....I not even bothering to entertain the thought.......Patos winning he seat......

well alot of PNM people fed up wth him..what better way to get him out..buh yuh right dey love him in Sando East
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 06:52:26 PM
Looks like Tobago tight. Sugar gyal....what yuh feel like? You's de correspondent on de ground for de forum. CNC3 gone and declare Tobago east for TOP...with 25% of de registered electorate counted. So i dunno bout dat.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 07:00:22 PM
CNC 3 just declared Tobago East for TOP....pressure....lawd look bachanal....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 24, 2010, 07:01:34 PM
look like the UNC leading
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
CNC 3 just declared Tobago East for TOP....pressure....lawd look bachanal....
That means unc win.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
Looks like Tobago tight. Sugar gyal....what yuh feel like? You's de correspondent on de ground for de forum. CNC3 gone and declare Tobago east for TOP...with 25% of de registered electorate counted. So i dunno bout dat.

Boy just before CNC3 declare the seat, a friend over in Tobago told me that TOP winning the 2 seats and he is watching it on the local station Tobago Channel 5.......I still watching because all the polling stations eh count yet.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:04:27 PM
Dem say Mayaro is a marginal seat but it doh look close in votes at all..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Quags on May 24, 2010, 07:04:38 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?


Just goes to show ,not much peeps follow the National Team .
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 07:06:09 PM
 :devil: pressure tonight .
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:07:12 PM
:devil: pressure tonight .

ah hope Weary dont have any sharp objects near she..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
pnm loss
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
How can a man whose character is  brought to question due to the scandalous handing of government funds/ FIFA funds/ TTFF funds and everyone's'  funds be  held in such high esteem that there is a chance that he could be elected and  be a part of  a government?


Just goes to show ,not much peeps follow the National Team .
:devil: pressure tonight .

ah hope Weary dont have any sharp objects near she..

D only party I support is NAR. I vote PNM because d coalition go insure dat we doin this ASAP. History is agr8 teacher Patos eh realize dat.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:14:05 PM
The PNM will win the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

pnm loss

bossman yuh flip flopping ..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:15:23 PM
But D.H.W what really going on in yuh Arima constituency ? http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 07:16:21 PM
But D.H.W what really going on in yuh Arima constituency ? http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

i here on TV UNC leading in Arima now  :o , if they pull that off hmmm
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 07:18:10 PM
Anil Roberts leading Nunez-Tesheira.....if that stays that way for much longer...then game, set, match.....

Patos, I really hope that something major happens before the night is over......for your sake....
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Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 07:18:39 PM
anil lookin like he takin dabadie! what wrong wid trinbago boy??????
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 07:19:29 PM
But D.H.W what really going on in yuh Arima constituency ? http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

i here on TV UNC leading in Arima now  :o , if they pull that off hmmm

I heard that too but I ignore that....no way UNC winning Arima....NO WAY!!!
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:19:56 PM
The people has spoken ..people fed up and they want change..
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Post by: royal on May 24, 2010, 07:22:34 PM
Ah guess no money for the footballers
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
I dunno why some of allyuh surprise..after all this UDECOTT Scandal , and Guanapo church with state funds what did allyuh expect after a snap elections ?..steupse
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
But D.H.W what really going on in yuh Arima constituency ? http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

i here on TV UNC leading in Arima now  :o , if they pull that off hmmm

I heard that too but I ignore that....no way UNC winning Arima....NO WAY!!!

Girl i surprise my Arima people voting UNC this is unheard of, blasphemy  :D Amazing , where my popcorn  :devil:
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
Sando West is VERY a VERY CLOSE race..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/... sando has always been PNM..
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 07:30:54 PM
Ah hear the TOP claiming both Tobago seats and Orville London is set to make a statement....look bachanal....
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Post by: daryn on May 24, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
Sando West is VERY a VERY CLOSE race..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/...sando has always been PNM..

almost always.  but it was always relatively close.  Sadiq Baksh won once and was very popular.
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Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 07:31:30 PM
anil lookin like he takin dabadie! what wrong wid trinbago boy??????

GIRL IF ANIL IN PARLIAMENT I goin and explore d CSME option I cyah live here we go be beyond SICKKKK
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:33:05 PM
Ah hear the TOP claiming both Tobago seats and Orville London is set to make a statement....look bachanal....

what can he possibly say now ??..he said last week than PNM had Tobago on lock..
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 07:33:50 PM
whey...i feel i just see trevor sayers jumping up in rienzi on tv just now. It looking like he same outfit for stamina man  :D
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 07:34:23 PM
london now concede defeat in tobago
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Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 07:35:56 PM
The PNM will win the election and there will be a great deal of bitterness to follow. I wouldn't use the word 'explode' like Bourbon but there will be real venom for weeks to come.

pnm loss

bossman yuh flip flopping ..
I was wrong
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 07:37:04 PM
what is to become of manning?
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:37:23 PM
Sando West is VERY a VERY CLOSE race..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/...sando has always been PNM..

almost always.  but it was always relatively close.  Sadiq Baksh won once and was very popular.
thanks for the correction..
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:39:24 PM
the best hope for the PNM right now is for Mnning to lose his seat..so him dont even have to consider remaining leader of the party  :D
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:45:27 PM
What about other marginal seats like Lopinot/Bonair and Tunapuna (remeber its Dookeran vs the current Minister of Education in Tunapuna)..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 07:49:43 PM
what is to become of manning?

he joining BAS in the coffin
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:50:32 PM
I wanted the Coalition to win but I want Volney lose bad bad ..
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Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 07:51:13 PM
What about other marginal seats like Lopinot/Bonair and Tunapuna (remeber its Dookeran vs the current Minister of Education in Tunapuna)..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

tv 6 have dooks takin tunapuna. all votes counted
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Post by: lefty on May 24, 2010, 07:52:08 PM
what is to become of manning?

he joining BAS in the coffin

pray boy, pray hard.............jus a few more characters to go but ah hear he trying to position frodo for leadership :-\ :rotfl:
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 07:53:37 PM
what is to become of manning?

what about his loyalists like Imbert and Enil ?..you think them would give Rowley full support ??..
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 07:54:04 PM
What about other marginal seats like Lopinot/Bonair and Tunapuna (remeber its Dookeran vs the current Minister of Education in Tunapuna)..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

tv 6 have dooks takin tunapuna. all votes counted

yeh i figured as such, Dooks nearly beat UNC there last time, so with the combine vote he winning for sure
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
What about other marginal seats like Lopinot/Bonair and Tunapuna (remeber its Dookeran vs the current Minister of Education in Tunapuna)..http://www.ctntworld.com/imap/

tv 6 have dooks takin tunapuna. all votes counted

yeh i figured as such, Dooks nearly beat UNC there last time, so with the combine vote he winning for sure
i real real happy for dooks yes.......
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Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
You reap what you sow.
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Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 08:00:35 PM
You reap what you sow.

ENTTTTTTT
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:00:53 PM
Can you believe that the UNC is actually leadng in Diego Martin North/East ??..what ah ting !
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:02:02 PM
what is to become of manning?

what about his loyalists like Imbert and Enil ?..you think them would give Rowley full support ??..

colm going and fight rowley for leadership.

PS...suruj rambachan getting real licks yes.
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Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
You reap what you sow.

ENTTTTTTT

 :beermug:

dat statement cud be used in so many ways eh
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
anil falling behind
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
Can you believe that the UNC is actually leadng in Diego Martin North/East ??..what ah ting !

Arima is the shocker.

Hmm it dropping now , i wonder if he could hold off

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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:11:21 PM
 I thought PNM had Toco/Sangre Grande on lock..well Rupert Griffith making mas right now
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:14:01 PM
I feel proud of my Trinbagonian people today..if you dont like how a man is leading your country then you vote him out, you dont keep voting for him over and over again while he keep bulling you in yuh buttum every time steupse..if the next party do nonsense you vote them out too..but once you send that message they will be more entitle to govern better because they know you are not afraid of voting them out...and plus all that calder hart, gunapo church, 2 millon dollar flag nonssense ..steupse
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:15:30 PM
i feel cnmg have old info yes..
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:16:40 PM
I feel proud of my Trinbagonian people today..if you dont like how a man is leading your country then you vote him out, you dont keep voting for him over and over again while he keep bulling you in yuh buttum every time steupse..

hahahaha
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:17:56 PM
Well PNM loss, they might pull back a few seats but the writing on the wall now. Fat lady preparing the throat
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Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2010, 08:18:09 PM
I feel proud of my Trinbagonian people today..if you dont like how a man is leading your country then you vote him out, you dont keep voting for him over and over again while he keep bulling you in yuh buttum every time steupse..if the next party do nonsense you vote them out too..but once you send that message they will be more entitle to govern better because they know you are not afraid of voting them out...and plus all that calder hart, gunapo church, 2 millon dollar flag nonssense ..steupse

calder hart, gunapo church   that is what pissed me off!!!!
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Post by: Jah Gol on May 24, 2010, 08:20:12 PM
Congratulations to Prime Minister-elect Kamla Persad-Bissessar
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:23:02 PM
Congratulations to Prime Minister-elect Kamla Persad-Bissessar

Yes congrats to her but I am going to hold her to the same high standards as i did wth Manning and  hope the media hold her to the same high standards..I am very curious to see what her cabinet would look like..because some representatives woud fit better in different Ministries..Warner said a few months ago he wanted the task of Minister of security so he can deal with the crime (dont know if he changed his mind)
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Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 08:23:27 PM
Congratulations to Prime Minister-elect Kamla Persad-Bissessar

 :'(
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:23:54 PM
So much for too close to call, they shoulda hire me for the result before time

UNC do a Shock and Awe campaign on PNM tonight , BLITZ
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Post by: Preacher on May 24, 2010, 08:29:13 PM
Seems like the chart is becoming progressively red...
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 08:31:07 PM
Winston Dookeran preparing to give a speech.....on CNC 3
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Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 08:31:44 PM
Tabaquite was won by the PNM...?
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:32:21 PM
Seems like the chart is becoming progressively red...

it get back Orange now
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
check manning face on CNC3 LOL  :devil:
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 08:36:47 PM
Tabaquite was won by the PNM...?

Eh??!!.... :o :o
 People was real vex that Ramesh wasn't the rep chosen....

Hold on

Manning about to give a speech.....on CNC 3
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Post by: AB.Trini on May 24, 2010, 08:37:32 PM
Is anyone really surprised by these results tonight/ I mean the writing was on the wall and the time was ripe for a political change in TNT.

The real shocker is how people could put individuals in power knowing fully well that they are bearing  ill repute and corruptness in their personal views.  Is Winston Dookeran a man of the people? or just of some? Is Jack for all the people or for his own interest? the future will tell if the faith placed on  men like these are  well intent.
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Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
all d stations now freeze jes so jes so. i was expecting to see abu bakr face pop up on d screen

it back up now  ::)
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Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 08:39:09 PM
Tabaquite was won by the PNM...?

Eh??!!.... :o :o
 People was real vex that Ramesh wasn't the rep chosen....

Hold on

Manning about to give a speech.....on CNC 3

Big up to meh dad  :beermug:
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:39:19 PM
check manning face on CNC3 LOL  :devil:

Give me some commentary my link just pop dung..what he saying ?
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:39:31 PM
all d stations now freeze jes so jes so. i was expecting to see abu bakr face pop up on d screen

it back up now  ::)

lol
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
check manning face on CNC3 LOL  :devil:

Give me some commentary my link just pop dung..what he saying ?

try this

http://www.jumptv.com/en/channel/cnc3/?&ref=

he face looking rel sour dread waaay
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 08:41:16 PM
This is a bittersweet moment for me.....I'm glad Manning got his arse handed to him.  These politicians must learn that they serve US and not the other way around.  That we are not stupid.  Don't insult our intelligence....over and over and over again....

On the other hand laaaawwwwwdddd....Jack close to the treasury now..... :'( :banginghead: :frustrated: :cursing:
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
so the Coalition ALSO won in Sando west...and Manning win in Sando East was not convincing to me
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:41:55 PM
wait i here manning say he resignation on the cards?
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Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
someone give me a sentence by sentence commentry on wha he saying.. :D
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:43:13 PM


On the other hand laaaawwwwwdddd....Jack close to the treasury now..... :'( :banginghead: :frustrated: :cursing:


the warriors go get NIKE to sponser we now  ::)
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Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 08:44:11 PM
wait i here manning say he resignation on the cards?

He shoulda just say YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I RESIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
manning concede defeat.....long time i eh see manning humble soooo

hahehaheheaheahaehaeae
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Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 08:45:31 PM
manning concede defeat.....long time i eh see manning humble soooo

hahehaheheaheahaehaeae

He was rather gracious in defeat wasn't he? Nearly brought a tear to my eye...
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:46:31 PM
manning concede defeat.....long time i eh see manning humble soooo

hahehaheheaheahaehaeae

He was rather gracious in defeat wasn't he? Nearly brought a tear to my eye...
he outclass panday

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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
manning now say how he has to reconsider his future in politics
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Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 08:48:00 PM
manning now say how he has to reconsider his future in politics

HE FUTURE DECIDED FOR HIM.
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
 :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:49:14 PM
manning now say how he has to reconsider his future in politics

HE FUTURE DECIDED FOR HIM.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/images/2007/07/31/radnor_street_cemetery_1_470x353.jpg)
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
penny under pressure on CNC 3........

doh worry..kamla go handle yuh right up
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 08:49:51 PM
@ D.H.W....

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Oh lord, look let we go easy on the man nah....poor fella....
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Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 08:49:55 PM
yeah basically he said PMN is a democratic party, they accept the results and he takes full responsibility for it and now he has to consider his political future. At which point his adoring fans sent up a faint chorus of "noooooo"
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Post by: lefty on May 24, 2010, 08:50:00 PM
manning now say how he has to reconsider his future in politics

HE FUTURE DECIDED FOR HIM.

truer words were never spoken
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
yeah basically he said PMN is a democratic party, they accept the results and he takes full responsibility for it and now he has to consider his political future. At which point his adoring fans sent up a faint chorus of "noooooo"

all 243 of them
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Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 08:51:13 PM
yeah basically he said PMN is a democratic party, they accept the results and he takes full responsibility for it and now he has to consider his political future. At which point his adoring fans sent up a faint chorus of "noooooo"

Chups....they'll get over it....
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:51:37 PM
manning going back
manning going back
manning going back
right out of government
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Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 08:52:17 PM
manning concede defeat.....long time i eh see manning humble soooo

hahehaheheaheahaehaeae

He was rather gracious in defeat wasn't he? Nearly brought a tear to my eye...
he outclass panday
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



[/quote]
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:52:38 PM
@ D.H.W....

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Oh lord, look let we go easy on the man nah....poor fella....

 :devil: :devil: :devil:
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Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 08:53:19 PM
yeah basically he said PMN is a democratic party, they accept the results and he takes full responsibility for it and now he has to consider his political future. At which point his adoring fans sent up a faint chorus of "noooooo"


LOUDESTTTTTTTT OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF STEUPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 08:53:46 PM
yeah basically he said PMN is a democratic party, they accept the results and he takes full responsibility for it and now he has to consider his political future. At which point his adoring fans sent up a faint chorus of "noooooo"

all 243 of them

Wait... they find more? :)
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Post by: truetrini on May 24, 2010, 08:54:34 PM
manning concede defeat.....long time i eh see manning humble soooo

hahehaheheaheahaehaeae

He was rather gracious in defeat wasn't he? Nearly brought a tear to my eye...
he outclass panday



onsense de man eh even say congrats kamal...steups sour old bitch.
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 08:56:12 PM
KAMLA have Calder Hart balls in she hand, and she squeezing hard  :-X
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Post by: truetrini on May 24, 2010, 08:56:48 PM
dem people telling Manning he was going to win come jes like de news man Saddam Hussein used to have elling de Iraqi people how dey killing US troops and winning de war....steups.
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 08:59:24 PM
manning concede defeat.....long time i eh see manning humble soooo

hahehaheheaheahaehaeae

He was rather gracious in defeat wasn't he? Nearly brought a tear to my eye...
he outclass panday



onsense de man eh even say congrats kamal...steups sour old bitch.

yeah he said he wishes her well.


anybody wondering what panday thinking/doing right about now?  :devil:
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Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 09:00:07 PM
watching Jack speechify :) waiting for Kamla
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Post by: Dutty on May 24, 2010, 09:02:11 PM
yeah basically he said PMN is a democratic party, they accept the results and he takes full responsibility for it and now he has to consider his political future. At which point his adoring fans sent up a faint chorus of "noooooo"

maybe it was "booooooo"
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:03:01 PM
watching Jack speechify :) waiting for Kamla

ramesh, panday and kelvin probably make a lime and gone movie town tonight
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 09:03:17 PM
HA Martin Joseph gone!!!
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Post by: rotatopoti3 on May 24, 2010, 09:03:47 PM
All dem new contracts the present govt is signing..I should hope that new govt makes sure dey dont get pull down in it....

How long does the present govt have in power before it hands over the keys?  I hope the incoming PM sticks to her promise and makes the PM house a open house for the citizens of TNT to visit or preferably make it a museum
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:05:02 PM
karen crying yes......

balisier house like it hosting a wake tonight
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Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 09:06:17 PM
LOOK Taxsharer  on TV  ::), Dingolay , lord the woman aint even acknowledge the Kamla as a the first female prime minister historic
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Post by: congo on May 24, 2010, 09:07:10 PM
Steupsss ....So we really put ANIL and VOLNEY in OUR parliament....!!!!
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Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:07:27 PM
karen cyah congrat kamla as first female PM........ >:(
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Post by: Dutty on May 24, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
ah wonder if percy go get ah small wukk...is he whey start de revolution
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Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 09:08:08 PM
OUR NATION'S DAWNING
 
Come come away, hail to the day,
This is our land's great morning,
Birds in the trees waft to the breeze
Songs of the Nation's dawning.
Humming bright, lend your delight,
Ibis your scarlet feathers;
Keskidee call, summon them all
This is a day of wonders!
 
    Oh land of fairest beauty
    We pledge our lives to duty
    And vow this day to serve thee.
 
Flamboyant gay, make glad the day
Colourful blooms resplendent.
Hibiscus hedge witness our pledge
And honour this day transcendent
Fireflies bright, shine through the night:
Illumine our thanksgiving.
Of this great day each heart can say
This is our Nation's Dawning!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 24, 2010, 09:08:17 PM
All dem new contracts the present govt is signing..I should hope that new govt makes sure dey dont get pull down in it....

How long does the present govt have in power before it hands over the keys?  I hope the incoming PM sticks to her promise and makes the PM house a open house for the citizens of TNT to visit or preferably make it a museum


regardless of d cost and it's symbolic nature as a mark of decadence  dont tink dat would be practical, I would go for an open house, type museum section because it built aready
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
karen cyah congrat kamla as first female PM........ >:(

nasty
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
ah wonder if percy go get ah small wukk...is he whey start de revolution

dookeran start the revolution a few years ago.....i hope no one try to take that away from him
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Boodsy on May 24, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
watching Jack speechify :) waiting for Kamla

ramesh, panday and kelvin probably make a lime and gone movie town tonight
Panday is a Panelist on IETV...
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ietvchannel1 (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ietvchannel1)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 09:09:54 PM
What is the final result...
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 09:10:03 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: royal on May 24, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
ah guess we'll have to wait and see how things go.Everybody seems to be happy.Let's welcome Volney,McCleod and Anil to parliament,and welcome back Jack.
 Kamla,lets see yuh leadership !!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

go join the wake in balisier nah
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Dutty on May 24, 2010, 09:11:38 PM

karen cyah congrat kamla as first female PM........ >:(

Quote



shoot, I just realize that oui

Good for T&T :applause:..democracy alive & well
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 24, 2010, 09:11:57 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

so d alternative didn' leave just as bitter ah taste in u mout..................me eh happy but wait an see, dey might surprise we
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 24, 2010, 09:13:08 PM
watching Jack speechify :) waiting for Kamla

ramesh, panday and kelvin probably make a lime and gone movie town tonight
Panday is a Panelist on IETV...
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ietvchannel1 (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ietvchannel1)

this man is still kicks
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 09:13:57 PM
Dingolay!!!

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 09:14:32 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

Thanks could not say it betta
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: kounty on May 24, 2010, 09:19:04 PM
nah man.  now is not the time for that yet. congrats kamla. best of luck, hopefully you and whoever you pick can solve the crime situation and keep t&t moving on the up and up.  jack i know i cyah say doh tief, but juss try to not brokes we nah.... 
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 09:19:41 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

go join the wake in balisier nah

well ah know u on your way to rienzi to hold jack warner hand and sing 'One Love'
have a good time

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 09:21:40 PM
Now we have money for football....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:24:32 PM
i want to publicly thank , "steups" congo, weary, quags and the others for ensuring that we still have an opposition to keep tabs on the new government. thank u for taking one for the team.  :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:26:17 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

so d alternative didn' leave just as bitter ah taste in u mout..................me eh happy but wait an see, dey might surprise we
fair enough.... everyone including the supporters have to wait and see.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2010, 09:28:20 PM
THE WHOLE COUNTRY ALMOST ORANGE WAAAAY
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 24, 2010, 09:28:35 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

not saying your wrong but atleast give her a fair chance..she and the Coalition know they have to perform to get re-elected..if Manning had won AGAIN we know EXACTLY what was coming..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 09:29:57 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

not saying your wrong but atleast give her a fair chance..she and the Coalition know they have to perform to get re-elected..if Manning had won AGAIN we know exctly what was coming..

point taken airman  :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: verycute1 on May 24, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
i want to publicly thank , "steups" congo, weary, quags and the others for ensuring that we still have an opposition to keep tabs on the new government. thank u for taking one for the team.  :beermug:


So used to Facebook, looking all over for the "Like" button :)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

go join the wake in balisier nah

well ah know u on your way to rienzi to hold jack warner hand and sing 'One Love'
have a good time


nah....we singing sun is shining....... come down nah?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 09:32:52 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

not saying your wrong but atleast give her a fair chance..she and the Coalition know they have to perform to get re-elected..if Manning had won AGAIN we know exctly what was coming..

point taken airman  :beermug:

aye is just a lil political picong i throwing at yuh eh nothing personal or permanent  ;)
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 24, 2010, 09:33:14 PM
The PNM work continues... if KPB doh want to see another elections in 6 mts she will have to commit to all those PNM projects... Great is the PNM... the work continues... !
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 24, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

not saying your wrong but atleast give her a fair chance..she and the Coalition know they have to perform to get re-elected..if Manning had won AGAIN we know exctly what was coming..

point taken airman  :beermug:

Queen ah understand yuh frustration......we need to now be watch dogs over the treasury like never before....
In the meantime could the PNM please sort itself out.....pleeeeaaasssseee!!!!....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 09:37:14 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

go join the wake in balisier nah

well ah know u on your way to rienzi to hold jack warner hand and sing 'One Love'
have a good time


nah....we singing sun is shining....... come down nah?

i eh have no sun screen
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

not saying your wrong but atleast give her a fair chance..she and the Coalition know they have to perform to get re-elected..if Manning had won AGAIN we know exctly what was coming..

point taken airman  :beermug:

aye is just a lil political picong i throwing at yuh eh nothing personal or permanent  ;)

ah know. no love lost  :beermug:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: STEUPS!! on May 24, 2010, 09:39:25 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

not saying your wrong but atleast give her a fair chance..she and the Coalition know they have to perform to get re-elected..if Manning had won AGAIN we know exctly what was coming..

point taken airman  :beermug:

Queen ah understand yuh frustration......we need to now be watch dogs over the treasury like never before....
In the meantime could the PNM please sort itself out.....pleeeeaaasssseee!!!!....

most definitely. is up to us at d end of d day to keep d government honest. same way d popultation jus 'unite' to oust manning, ah hope d population come together d same way to make sure d new government  do what dey have to do

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2010, 09:39:30 PM
Patrick should throw yourselve on the sword, nah. Fuera. Is time to go. Is time for kamla to live La fantasia. Your work is done. please believe us Patrick. PNM needs a whole new dress or suit. Thanks for the memories. Over and out.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bourbon on May 24, 2010, 09:43:24 PM
To hell in a handbasket we go.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: lefty on May 24, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
so yuh get rid of manning, right?
but look who we forkin inherit
forkin warner, volney, gopeesingh, suruj rambachan, mc cleod, anil roberts, warner, jack warner, austin warner, AUSTIN JACK F**KIN WARNER!!!!!!!

an i supposed to be happy wid dat

steups

we really in a mess oui

so d alternative didn' leave just as bitter ah taste in u mout..................me eh happy but wait an see, dey might surprise we
fair enough.... everyone including the supporters have to wait and see.

boss is HATE dat had my jockey shorts riding mih,  it was always d hate, national issues as they stand was ah big concern to me, my hope is dat we see mannings back an' wit him, d end of daddy politiks, an on dat note jack still worries me, ah hope kams could take dat bull by d horns an drag it dong.......................... if it come to dat
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 24, 2010, 09:56:46 PM
Well yes... Manning had to go, but at what price?  Allyuh will have to forgive me if ah eh join in de celebration.  Those who saying give Kamla a chance... fuh what?  Is not Kamla we worried about, Kamla dun strike she bargain with Jack Warner, yuh feel she could keep he on ah leash??  Allyuh play like allyuh doh know Jack Warner.  He's ah man never go into a deal without having ah ace up he sleeve.  I doh know if he have anything on Kamla, but if Sepp Blatter couldn't control Jack... what make allyuh so sure Kamla can?

Time will tell, we have no choice but to give them an opportunity to govern. TnT get what it asked for, but for our sake leh we hope that what we asked for is something we could live with.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 10:00:41 PM
allya tink that Ms Cleo lorse she work dis rongs :devil:

hear nuh
Ms Cleo was telling Manning that "if ya have election on May 24 th"
and before she finish he call de damn election oui
is tonight he call she to finish
and she tell him
"well what I was goin to tell ya was
that if ya have election on May 24 th ya go LORSE REAL BAD" :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2010, 10:11:54 PM
allya tink that Ms Cleo lorse she work dis rongs :devil:

hear nuh
Ms Cleo was telling Manning that "if ya have election on May 24 th"
and before she finish he call de damn election oui
is tonight he call she to finish
and she tell him
"well what I was goin to tell ya was
that if ya have election on May 24 th ya go LORSE REAL BAD" :devil: :devil:

yesterday Mann-in
today Mann-out
  :rotfl:
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 10:13:36 PM
well
my congratulations to the FIRST FEMALE Prime Minister for TnT
Well done Kamla

ya better watch Jack REAL close eh...if ya want "some" ya have to run quick before he get to the national treasurery first, because you wont get any
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 24, 2010, 10:15:13 PM
To hell in a handbasket we go.

NAH MAN MANNING D CAUSE OF ALL ILLS HAVE GONEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 24, 2010, 10:17:18 PM
Election done let's all move forward
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 24, 2010, 10:18:55 PM
Yeah but at what costs...We always knew that there was a chance that the PNM was losing this...No if no but no maybe but at the costs of a constitutional majority? I would have prefered it to be close like 21/20...22/19...That way we guaranteed good governance...With this result we only switch sides...!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on May 24, 2010, 10:20:48 PM
To hell in a handbasket we go.

NAH MAN MANNING D CAUSE OF ALL ILLS HAVE GONEEEEEEEEEEEEE

stop it, Manning called the elections like a mad man, but in fairness his government was collapsing.

he bought this shit upon the PNM,  It is his fault, he allowwed our treasury to be raped by Hart etc.

It IS  his FAULT
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 24, 2010, 10:25:48 PM
Manning do shit...yes we all agree but we now have a government with a constitutional majority.....Win lose or draw our politicians are not mature enough to understand the responsibility that comes with a constitutional majority...!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 24, 2010, 10:30:12 PM
Jack Warner now tell Rienzi complex that the bar is open until 6...They have nothing to pay for...Eat and drink as much as you like...Yet he still can't pay the footballers...!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: WestCoast on May 24, 2010, 10:30:23 PM
Manning do shit...yes we all agree but we now have a government with a constitutional majority.....Win lose or draw our politicians are not mature enough to understand the responsibility that comes with a constitutional majority...!!!
The "status quo bias" in TnT politics does not give me much encouragement
but I am hoping that one day a leader comes along and starts the recovery process as it will take a very long time to change the thinking
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2010, 10:30:36 PM
Manning do shit...yes we all agree but we now have a government with a constitutional majority.....Win lose or draw our politicians are not mature enough to understand the responsibility that comes with a constitutional majority...!!!


Is time we move on. We mature enough. We still want to Brits to hold our hands thru westminster style politics. common man. We should be making our own decisions. Like term limits and moving away from the privy council. Is time we become truly independent.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on May 24, 2010, 11:03:56 PM
Yeah but at what costs...We always knew that there was a chance that the PNM was losing this...No if no but no maybe but at the costs of a constitutional majority? I would have prefered it to be close like 21/20...22/19...That way we guaranteed good governance...With this result we only switch sides...!!!

Parity or near parity in the distribution of parliamentary seats DOES NOT guarantee good governance! Wha yuh saying at all? Reflect on our contemporary political history.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: congo on May 24, 2010, 11:22:58 PM
Wouldn't there be a better balance as one party runs th risk of members crossing the floor when dissatisfied...Hence Dr Rowley was frozen out as Manning had enough members without him....Same with Ramesh..Sudama and Maraj...when Bas refused to investigate corruption, they caused the government to say...All I am saying is that are we comfortable with either party having a constitutional majority..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on May 24, 2010, 11:40:22 PM
Because we consistently confuse or conflate stability as a substitute or synonym for 'good governance'.

Good governance addresses the effective delivery of services to the citizenry ... accompanied by the requisite inherent guarantees of personal freedoms etc.

Good governance is not compromised by the prerogatives of political parties such that the interests of a party (or now possibly parties) stand superior to the interest(s) of the public ... as an example, Golding's jackassness regarding the Dudus scene was not an exercise in good governance but was pursued supremely in the interest of the JLP ... now, consequently look at the mess in progress ... pertinent question: what's the parliamentary distribution in Jamaica?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 25, 2010, 12:01:47 AM
In simple terms. Our political history shows that Trinidad is a democratic country, changing power without any major problems during an election thus far, thank god.  UNC is the constitutional majority now.. and is in driver's seat to pass and change extensive, laws. The people wanted change by the outcome of the results. Lets see how parliament function with this new transformation of government. Lets all move forward and hope for a better nation and that is the bottom line. Rowley has plenty work to do stay tuned.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 25, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
From Manning to Jack from sleepless in Seattle to sleepless in Piarco  and many more questions to come.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 25, 2010, 12:15:05 AM
So this is what the opposition looking like: Dr. Keith Rowley, Joel Primus, Dr Amery Browne, Alicia Hospedales, Marlene McDonald, Colm Imbert, Patricia McIntosh, Donna Cox, NiLeung Hypolite, Joanne Thomas, Patrick Manning? and Paula Gopee-Scoon... PNM need and big time 'tyra banks' make-over.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on May 25, 2010, 04:05:00 AM
So this is what the opposition looking like: Dr. Keith Rowley, Joel Primus, Dr Amery Browne, Alicia Hospedales, Marlene McDonald, Colm Imbert, Patricia McIntosh, Donna Cox, NiLeung Hypolite, Joanne Thomas, Patrick Manning? and Paula Gopee-Scoon... PNM need and big time 'tyra banks' make-over.

i want to see how arrogant they will be now, esp imbert and marlene mcdonald.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Daft Trini on May 25, 2010, 04:23:41 AM
Anybody have a copy of that scandalous photo of Marlene McDonald  :devil: ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 25, 2010, 09:22:06 AM
To hell in a handbasket we go.

NAH MAN MANNING D CAUSE OF ALL ILLS HAVE GONEEEEEEEEEEEEE

stop it, Manning called the elections like a mad man, but in fairness his government was collapsing.

he bought this shit upon the PNM,  It is his fault, he allowwed our treasury to be raped by Hart etc.

It IS  his FAULT

Where I say it eh he fault but d problems in this country will not all dissapear wit Patrick. D votin yday indicated dat get rid ah Manning and all will b swell.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: truetrini on May 25, 2010, 09:58:23 AM
The voting yesterday indicated that manning is hated and people wanted he gorn.  peopl, includign a PNMite like me felt that enough was enough and it was high time he rode out, as tings could NOT get any worse.

people have a right to feel that when things real bad they could get better.  Kamal represents hope, if she is successful is left to be seen, but HOPE is alive....look at the sheer numbers voting against teh PNM!

poor leadership, poor management and piss poor politics led the PNm to where they are now.

manning needs to ride out!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: dinho on May 25, 2010, 10:29:25 AM
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have a hastily put together alliance that gives no confidence of staying together and provides no tangible solutions to the problems that face the society. Worst yet they bring more than their fair share of characters of questionable moral standing. The corruption that was significant of the party's previous tenure in government should also be fresh in memory.

But at the end of the day, a vote for the incumbent would have been a vote for the continued regression of this government and an endorsement for a leader that has simply lost the plot. And Trinidad and Tobago has decided not to have that.

Coming out of this election, as an optimist these are my hopes for the country:

- The crime situation is tackled head on by the new government. I seriously would like to see Jack take on the role of national security. He might be ah stinkin ole tief, but the f**ker is the hardest working person in government and he gets shit done!

- Government alliances with criminal elements managed through the URP and CEPEP are broken.

- The new government addresses the wanton spending on non-necessities by the prior administration and starts addressing the basic necessities like health care.

- The PNM uses this loss to re-organize itself, get its act together, get some fresh blood and become a stronger party that will be a real option for good governance in the next election.

- Term limits

- Societal integration.

These are just some things I hope for, like i said as an optimist. Lewwe see wha number play.

Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Controversial on May 25, 2010, 10:46:13 AM
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have a hastily put together alliance that gives no confidence of staying together and provides no tangible solutions to the problems that face the society. Worst yet they bring more than their fair share of characters of questionable moral standing. The corruption that was significant of the party's previous tenure in government should also be fresh in memory.

But at the end of the day, a vote for the incumbent would have been a vote for the continued regression of this government and an endorsement for a leader that has simply lost the plot. And Trinidad and Tobago has decided not to have that.

Coming out of this election, as an optimist these are my hopes for the country:

- The crime situation is tackled head on by the new government. I seriously would like to see Jack take on the role of national security. He might be ah stinkin ole tief, but the f**ker is the hardest working person in government and he gets shit done!

- Government alliances with criminal elements managed through the URP and CEPEP are broken.

- The new government addresses the wanton spending on non-necessities by the prior administration and starts addressing the basic necessities like health care.

- The PNM uses this loss to re-organize itself, get its act together, get some fresh blood and become a stronger party that will be a real option for good governance in the next election.

- Term limits

- Societal integration.

These are just some things I hope for, like i said as an optimist. Lewwe see wha number play.



2 terms max will be the legilslation, improved health care and education programs. the sports ministry will flourish and the pnm needs to re-group, the people have lost trust in them and it will take more than rowley to bring them back, kamla will be there for 2 terms, the coalition will not break.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 25, 2010, 11:38:36 AM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 25, 2010, 11:42:17 AM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today his reply was " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

LOL and this a surprise to you ?..Panday have been saying that months now..allyuh fellas is jones oui  :D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: ribbit on May 25, 2010, 11:48:30 AM
To hell in a handbasket we go.

NAH MAN MANNING D CAUSE OF ALL ILLS HAVE GONEEEEEEEEEEEEE

stop it, Manning called the elections like a mad man, but in fairness his government was collapsing.

he bought this shit upon the PNM,  It is his fault, he allowwed our treasury to be raped by Hart etc.

It IS  his FAULT

Where I say it eh he fault but d problems in this country will not all dissapear wit Patrick. D votin yday indicated dat get rid ah Manning and all will b swell.

so dey shoulda print de ballot to say "Get rid of all de problems" instead of de candidate name.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 25, 2010, 11:52:15 AM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today his reply was " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

LOL and this a surprise to you ?..Panday have been saying that months now..allyuh fellas is jones oui  :D

   :o LOL at you too!!  is a talk show host who ask the question.read again  
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 25, 2010, 11:55:51 AM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today his reply was " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

LOL and this a surprise to you ?..Panday have been saying that months now..allyuh fellas is jones oui  :D

   :o LOL at you too!!  is a talk show host who ask the question.read again  

meh boy dont get emotional.. :D  I am just telling you de man has been saying dont want Jack as part of the UN months now both men have filed charges against each other in the past..that host must of thought Panday had changed his mnd since election results..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 25, 2010, 11:56:34 AM
HA Martin Joseph gone!!!

what seat was he representing ?
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 25, 2010, 12:00:59 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 25, 2010, 12:42:18 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today his reply was " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

LOL and this a surprise to you ?..Panday have been saying that months now..allyuh fellas is jones oui  :D

   :o LOL at you too!!  is a talk show host who ask the question.read again  

meh boy dont get emotional.. :D  I am just telling you de man has been saying dont want Jack as part of the UN months now both men have filed charges against each other in the past..that host must of thought Panday had changed his mnd since election results..

Lets move forward hope for a better T&T. Kamla have plenty wuk to put down I wish her well.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 25, 2010, 12:48:17 PM
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have a hastily put together alliance that gives no confidence of staying together and provides no tangible solutions to the problems that face the society. Worst yet they bring more than their fair share of characters of questionable moral standing. The corruption that was significant of the party's previous tenure in government should also be fresh in memory.

But at the end of the day, a vote for the incumbent would have been a vote for the continued regression of this government and an endorsement for a leader that has simply lost the plot. And Trinidad and Tobago has decided not to have that.

Coming out of this election, as an optimist these are my hopes for the country:

- The crime situation is tackled head on by the new government. I seriously would like to see Jack take on the role of national security. He might be ah stinkin ole tief, but the f**ker is the hardest working person in government and he gets shit done!

- Government alliances with criminal elements managed through the URP and CEPEP are broken.

- The new government addresses the wanton spending on non-necessities by the prior administration and starts addressing the basic necessities like health care.

- The PNM uses this loss to re-organize itself, get its act together, get some fresh blood and become a stronger party that will be a real option for good governance in the next election.

- Term limits

- Societal integration.

These are just some things I hope for, like i said as an optimist. Lewwe see wha number play.



Good post Dinho, the characters of questionable moral content on this elected platform worries me, but as you said, riock and hard place
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: asylumseeker on May 25, 2010, 12:57:47 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....

Damn good question. The answer is because his walk in the wilderness is not permanent. I'm not suggesting he'll hold elective office again, but last night's overtures to him already point to paving the way for reconciliation. It's one thing to alienate a primary actor when there is tension within opposition ranks. Upon attaining office, the equation changes. Watch for a resurrection in Mikela's interest.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: JDB on May 25, 2010, 12:58:26 PM
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have a hastily put together alliance that gives no confidence of staying together and provides no tangible solutions to the problems that face the society. Worst yet they bring more than their fair share of characters of questionable moral standing. The corruption that was significant of the party's previous tenure in government should also be fresh in memory.

But at the end of the day, a vote for the incumbent would have been a vote for the continued regression of this government and an endorsement for a leader that has simply lost the plot. And Trinidad and Tobago has decided not to have that.

Coming out of this election, as an optimist these are my hopes for the country:

- The crime situation is tackled head on by the new government. I seriously would like to see Jack take on the role of national security. He might be ah stinkin ole tief, but the f**ker is the hardest working person in government and he gets shit done!

- Government alliances with criminal elements managed through the URP and CEPEP are broken.

- The new government addresses the wanton spending on non-necessities by the prior administration and starts addressing the basic necessities like health care.

- The PNM uses this loss to re-organize itself, get its act together, get some fresh blood and become a stronger party that will be a real option for good governance in the next election.

- Term limits

- Societal integration.

These are just some things I hope for, like i said as an optimist. Lewwe see wha number play.



The one good thing that can be said is that the media and th epublic starting from a position of distrust and vigilance. Not just because of the current characters but the past history of the UNC with Carlos and Ish.

you woul dhope that Jack and company will not get as long a leash as Calder Hart (and by extension Manning). The only thing they can't stop is the "legal" corruption, the open nepotism and self serving award of non-tender business to friends and family. Jack master that with FIFA and the TTFF.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 25, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....

Damn good question. The answer is because his walk in the wilderness is not permanent. I'm not suggesting he'll hold elective office again, but last night's overtures to him already point to paving the way for reconciliation. It's one thing to alienate a primary actor when there is tension within opposition ranks. Upon attaining office, the equation changes. Watch for a resurrection in Mikela's interest.

I personally don't have a problem with bringing Mikela in via the Senate or in some similar capacity.  Actually, I think she should have been allowed to fight her seat.....Panday on the other hand is a no, no......Kamla better doh play up nah.....let Panday stay where he is.....
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: weary1969 on May 25, 2010, 01:10:10 PM
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have a hastily put together alliance that gives no confidence of staying together and provides no tangible solutions to the problems that face the society. Worst yet they bring more than their fair share of characters of questionable moral standing. The corruption that was significant of the party's previous tenure in government should also be fresh in memory.

But at the end of the day, a vote for the incumbent would have been a vote for the continued regression of this government and an endorsement for a leader that has simply lost the plot. And Trinidad and Tobago has decided not to have that.

Coming out of this election, as an optimist these are my hopes for the country:

- The crime situation is tackled head on by the new government. I seriously would like to see Jack take on the role of national security. He might be ah stinkin ole tief, but the f**ker is the hardest working person in government and he gets shit done!

- Government alliances with criminal elements managed through the URP and CEPEP are broken.

- The new government addresses the wanton spending on non-necessities by the prior administration and starts addressing the basic necessities like health care.

- The PNM uses this loss to re-organize itself, get its act together, get some fresh blood and become a stronger party that will be a real option for good governance in the next election.

- Term limits

- Societal integration.

These are just some things I hope for, like i said as an optimist. Lewwe see wha number play.



The one good thing that can be said is that the media and th epublic starting from a position of distrust and vigilance. Not just because of the current characters but the past history of the UNC with Carlos and Ish.

you woul dhope that Jack and company will not get as long a leash as Calder Hart (and by extension Manning). The only thing they can't stop is the "legal" corruption, the open nepotism and self serving award of non-tender business to friends and family. Jack master that with FIFA and the TTFF.
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have a hastily put together alliance that gives no confidence of staying together and provides no tangible solutions to the problems that face the society. Worst yet they bring more than their fair share of characters of questionable moral standing. The corruption that was significant of the party's previous tenure in government should also be fresh in memory.

But at the end of the day, a vote for the incumbent would have been a vote for the continued regression of this government and an endorsement for a leader that has simply lost the plot. And Trinidad and Tobago has decided not to have that.

Coming out of this election, as an optimist these are my hopes for the country:

- The crime situation is tackled head on by the new government. I seriously would like to see Jack take on the role of national security. He might be ah stinkin ole tief, but the f**ker is the hardest working person in government and he gets shit done!

- Government alliances with criminal elements managed through the URP and CEPEP are broken.

- The new government addresses the wanton spending on non-necessities by the prior administration and starts addressing the basic necessities like health care.

- The PNM uses this loss to re-organize itself, get its act together, get some fresh blood and become a stronger party that will be a real option for good governance in the next election.

- Term limits

- Societal integration.

These are just some things I hope for, like i said as an optimist. Lewwe see wha number play.



The one good thing that can be said is that the media and th epublic starting from a position of distrust and vigilance. Not just because of the current characters but the past history of the UNC with Carlos and Ish.

you woul dhope that Jack and company will not get as long a leash as Calder Hart (and by extension Manning). The only thing they can't stop is the "legal" corruption, the open nepotism and self serving award of non-tender business to friends and family. Jack master that with FIFA and the TTFF.

WE LIVE IN HOPE
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 25, 2010, 01:18:48 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....

Damn good question. The answer is because his walk in the wilderness is not permanent. I'm not suggesting he'll hold elective office again, but last night's overtures to him already point to paving the way for reconciliation. It's one thing to alienate a primary actor when there is tension within opposition ranks. Upon attaining office, the equation changes. Watch for a resurrection in Mikela's interest.


...dont think most people will have a problem if Mickela Panday was to return as a senator or in some form of future local government..I dont like Basdeo Panday but I cannot hold his children or even his future grandchildren at hostage for his corrupt ways ..
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 25, 2010, 01:40:49 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....

Damn good question. The answer is because his walk in the wilderness is not permanent. I'm not suggesting he'll hold elective office again, but last night's overtures to him already point to paving the way for reconciliation. It's one thing to alienate a primary actor when there is tension within opposition ranks. Upon attaining office, the equation changes. Watch for a resurrection in Mikela's interest.


...dont think most people will have a problem if Mickela Panday was to return as a senator or in some form of future local government..I dont like Basdeo Panday but I cannot hold his children or even his future grandchildren at hostage for his corrupt ways ..

whatt happened to Imix bway???
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 25, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....

Damn good question. The answer is because his walk in the wilderness is not permanent. I'm not suggesting he'll hold elective office again, but last night's overtures to him already point to paving the way for reconciliation. It's one thing to alienate a primary actor when there is tension within opposition ranks. Upon attaining office, the equation changes. Watch for a resurrection in Mikela's interest.


...dont think most people will have a problem if Mickela Panday was to return as a senator or in some form of future local government..I dont like Basdeo Panday but I cannot hold his children or even his future grandchildren at hostage for his corrupt ways ..

whatt happened to Imix bway???

  I dunno nah Olokun..all the PNMites mash up the site since election results
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Babalawo on May 25, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
A host on  talk city radio said  that they spoke to Panday today.
Host Q : what you think about UNC in this new government.

Panday  replid: " I don't have a problem with UNC in power but i have a problem with Jack"

Oh please.... ::) ::) 

When Jack was funding the UNC campaign in 2007, bailing out Oma and funding he trip to Germany for the World Cup in '06 he didn't have a problem then.  Steups!!....is because of Panday we are saddled with Jack in Gov't.  Let Pandy throw he frame!!!.....why they still interviewing him is beyond me....

Damn good question. The answer is because his walk in the wilderness is not permanent. I'm not suggesting he'll hold elective office again, but last night's overtures to him already point to paving the way for reconciliation. It's one thing to alienate a primary actor when there is tension within opposition ranks. Upon attaining office, the equation changes. Watch for a resurrection in Mikela's interest.


...dont think most people will have a problem if Mickela Panday was to return as a senator or in some form of future local government..I dont like Basdeo Panday but I cannot hold his children or even his future grandchildren at hostage for his corrupt ways ..

whatt happened to Imix bway???

  I dunno nah Olokun..all the PNMites mash up the site since election results
and to add the traffic to see updates from the massacre in Jamaica
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: trinindian on May 25, 2010, 02:08:30 PM
One sure way for Kamla to screw up an loose all the good will she currently has, would be to appoint basdeo as a senator.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AirMan on May 25, 2010, 02:13:28 PM
One sure way for Kamla to screw up an loose all the good will she currently has, would be to appoint basdeo as a senator.

seriously no amount of alcohol she can consume that will make her do something like that ..Warner and Dookeran dont get along with Panday at all, so she woud be mashing up her own coalition..steupse..I woud not even entertain that thought..how did that even became a topic in here  :D
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Bakes on May 25, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
Congratulations Trinidad and Tobago.

The people wanted change and the people have spoken. And given the climate surrounding this entire elections, I'm also happy that it seems to have came off smoothly and without incident.

This was always a 'rock and a hard place' election. On the one hand you have a government failing its citizens in basic human necessities with an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions. The decision to call an early election itself was a tacit admission of failure and ineptitude.

On the other hand you have...
..."an arrogant, borderline dictatorial leader consumed by power and now mired in serious implications of corruptions."

Oh wait... that kinda redundant.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: AB.Trini on August 14, 2014, 02:30:25 AM
Ah go take ah run off - ah voting for integrity ethical practice moral fortitude - upright citizens with proven competences- a party that reflects the plurals tic multi ethnic representation ; representatives who can effect change in social medical political and economic opportunities for all peoples.
A party who believes in that'd every creed and race have an equal place in our society; a party that would stamp out gang warfare and be hard on criminals- yes and before ah vote ah want to hear of concrete plans  that candidates have  for potential portfolios which they may qualify for. Ah voting for string decisive well informed leadership. One who could discern and one who could select ministers who are competent to run a ministry.
Yes ah voting for these principles - ah looking for a party with principles not propaganda and baseless rhetoric- I heard too much of that in the last victory speech. Baseless promises about unity that never came to fruition. Don't want to experience that disappointment in an election again.
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2014, 07:00:39 AM
AB.Trini, your choice is limited! Is either/or!!!!
Title: Re: If Elections called today... how will all yuh vote?
Post by: sammy on August 14, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
A new party was formed out of the belly of the PMN yesterday... I think it was the PDA.
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