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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on July 27, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
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The hunt for T&T's next number 10.
By: Inshan Mohammed.
Our last genuine number 10 to have donned the Red, White and Black for the Trinidad and Tobago men’s national football team in the past 20-years is probably back in Scotland job hunting for a new coaching position.
And if by now you cannot guess who I am referring to, here is a hint, he is affectionately known as the "Little Magician".
Yes, that's right, his name is Russell Latapy, a T&T football legend. What was amazing about him, is that he could terrorize any defence, spray passes with pinpoint accuracy and get off a decent shot on goal as well.
Take for instance, he played only 23 minutes against Paraguay in T&T's third and last World Cup match appearance in Germany (2006). Apart from Cornell Glen’s goal efforts throughout the tournament, Latapy had more shots on goal than any T&T player who played more minutes and more games for T&T's entire World Cup duration.
Now that the former Soca Warriors midfielder has retired and is currently in the coaching business the hunt is on for T&T's next number 10 to lead them on the Road to Rio in 2014 and beyond.
Not that the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) isn't searching, but we as supporters remain hopeful that Latapy’s heir apparent will soon emerge. As every T&T football fan knows, T&T is a small country, and it doesn't have a proper development football program at any level.
There is always some "bacchanal" surrounding T&T football and to top it off the players with possible number 10 capabilities aren’t willing to go the extra mile. They expect someone to come in and rescue them, as though their skill alone would get them to the Promised Land.
Now, I have heard of many great talents before my time such as some of the members of the 1973 WC team. Players like Everald Cummings, Leroy Spann, Leroy DeLeon, Bobby Sookram and Warren Archibald also come to mind. I was told by many that they were all top midfield players for both club and country, but for me to comment without seeing these men in action would be unfair, if so to speak, so I'll go with the players I've seen- leaving the foundation members with the respect they deserve.
To find another Russell Latapy or to a lesser entent, Kerwin Jemmott, Arnold Dwarika, Aurtis Whitley, Clint Marcelle or Hutson Charles might seemed far-fetched, however, here is a list of names I am going to juggle around that can potentially fill the creative midfield void;
The Prospects.
Densill Theobald (29) - Currently T&T's best passer of the ball. Theobald is capable of making good through passes from any distance. His weakness, inconsistency and a lack of composure, he's also a one pace player. His experience though is a plus. One for 2014.
Keon Daniel (24) - Now that he has broken into a solid left wing player, we seemed to have lost a midfielder who would have been great in a number 10 role. But is it too late? I don't believe so, or, I hope not? Daniel is clearly one of the most technically gifted player to come along since the Magician himself. With an abundance of skill Daniel could possibly be the one to solve a lot of T&T’s creative problems on the field. One for 2014 and beyond.
Ataullah Guerra (24) - Here is another player I really like. In 2010, his former coach Terry Fenwick while still at San Juan Jabloteh told me that Guerra is a top midfielder and probably is one of the best based in T&T. He is another technically gifted player and if he gets serious mentally he probably would be playing in some elite European league. His main problem is that he loses focus during games and as a coach Terry had to continue shaking him up from the sidelines. Once his focus was regained though, he was pure class to watch. One for 2014 and beyond.
Hughtun Hector (26) – Hughtun played for T&T as a winger in the past and would probably play in that position under the current head coach Otto Pfister. But if I know a talented player when I see one, Hector is special. I was surprised when I heard the news that his New York Red Bulls trial was unsuccessful in 2010, and in my opinion that’s their loss. I think this player should be groomed to play behind the two strikers for T&T. He would be unstoppable in that position, a role Russell Latapy himself played effectively. One for 2014 and beyond.
Silvio Spann (29) - I have never seen his father (Leroy) play and from what I've heard, Silvio and any of his brothers combined couldn't add up to the talent their father once possessed. Unfortunately, the great players we had are no more, so we have to make the best of what we currently have. Not that Silvio is a bad player; he has shown great passing ability in the past and was a great asset to the Soca Warriors during the 2005 World Cup Qualifiers. However, his major flaw is one that plagues many of T&T’s footballers, that being inconsistency. But like Theobald, Silvio has experience, an asset that can’t be overlooked during team selection time. I would keep him in training with the T&T team with hope that his full potential will be finally be realized. One for 2014.
Khaleem Hyland (22) - Surely, Khaleem’s T&T's finest overall player in the past decade – bar none. The San Juan Jabloteh product went from strength to strength and is continuing to grow as a player, and definitely possesses #10 capabilities. Now would be the perfect time to groom him to rule the Soca Warriors midfield. Though not as creative as Arnold Dwarika or Russell Latapy, Hyland can play the attacking and defensive role quite effectively, and can be described as a David Nakhid/Hutson Charles type player. Another player who seems similar to Hyland's style of play is Under 23 captain Sheldon Bateau. I am totally impressed with this young-man's ability, he seems like a sort of Patrick Vieira type player. One For 2014 & Beyond.
Shahdon Winchester (19) - If only this player could realize what potential he possesses. Shahdon is a diminutive player, but is nifty and tricky in the penalty box. He works well behind the strikers and does have some silkiness about his passing. His main problem though is his discipline. Is Shahdon willing to go the extra to be the next #10? Only he can answer that question - One for the future.
Andre Toussaint (29) - After Ataullah Guerra, I believe Andre Toussaint is currently T&T's best creative player locally. Toussaint should have been converted to a number 10 a long time ago. Is it too late? Time will tell as he is currently on Otto Pfister's training team and who knows what surprise tactics the German coach would bring. All should be revealed on August 10 when T&T faces Haiti in what would be Pfister’s first game as head coach, but please don't hold your breath. One for 2014.
Sean De Silva (21) – Sean definitely has the attitude and work ethnics to be a solid midfielder. Though, still green, in time I believe that he would be a main stay on the T&T side. His exemplary performance in the first round of the recently concluded CFU Olympic qualifiers was testimony to his potential as T&T’s future #10- One for the future.
Leston Paul (21) – I am quite surprised he was not on the current T&T Olympic team. Maybe his college obligations did not allow him the time to participate. Like De Silva, Leston falls in the same mold but is technically a bit better. A future captain and one to look out for the future.
Andre Boucaud (26) – Andre reminds me of Ronnie Mauge. He is packed with energy, determination, and is like a bull dog mentality. Andre has now move up the ladder to playing a more attacking creative style for his club. A definite prospect for T&T. One for 2014.
Justin Fojo (22) – I saw him played twice this year and he showed some intelligent passing ability. I believe Fojo deserves a look at for the senior team. - One for the future.
Jason Devenish (23) - Before his long term injury, the midfielder was one of the top midfielders at North East Stars alongside Marc Leslie, another good player. I believe Jason has a bright future, but I’m not sure what state he would be in after he comes out of rehabilitation. - One for the future.
Matthew Woo Ling (15) – Matthew is still very young, and I have seen clips of him which one cannot go by, even though they were all impressive. However, I was told personally by two of his coaches one being Terry Fenwick that he possesses great talent. In August 2010, Woo Ling was the lone T&T player selected by former England and Liverpool legend John Barnes along with eight other Caribbean players who travelled to Sunderland AFC. On completion of the coaching clinic that lead to Matthew’s selection for the one week Sunderland AFC training camp, he took home the award for the Most Promising Player. Let’s hope that this is the first sign of great things to come from Matthew. - One for the future.
Now that I have dug deep to find these number 10 candidates I plead with the TTFF to implement some sort of football program that would help harness and develop some of these talents.
We all know that Russell Latapy was a small individual who wore big shoes, shoes so big that since his international exploits that span over 2 decades, no one in T&T has ever come close to filling them.
However, the above mentioned names are a few possible players we can start working with and even if we have to combine any of them to fulfill the role of a number 10 then that would be something the fans could look forward to for the "Road to Rio" and beyond."
Over to you now TTFF!!!
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excellent analysis breds, imagine jemmott point out that guerra was special years ago :beermug:
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excellent analysis breds, imagine jemmott point out that guerra was special years ago :beermug:
you 'special' too...but i wouldn't hold dat against yuh ;D
Flex few of those players you call could fill Latapy shoes. Of the youger ones De Silva IMO comes closest in terms of ability and style. If De Silva and Leston Paul pursue professional ball after college that tandem will do great things for us in midfield playing just below Hector or Daryl Roberts. Flex...How Spann and Theobald see they way in here is between you and God oui 8)
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excellent analysis breds, imagine jemmott point out that guerra was special years ago :beermug:
you 'special' too...but i wouldn't hold dat against yuh ;D
Flex few of those players you call could fill Latapy shoes. Of the youger ones De Silva IMO comes closest in terms of ability and style. If De Silva and Leston Paul pursue professional ball after college that tandem will do great things for us in midfield playing just below Hector or Daryl Roberts. Flex...How Spann and Theobald see they way in here is between you and God oui 8)
spann is the best dead ball specialist we have, he have excellent dribblng skills and can pass the ball very well, the injury killed his world cup chance and that stunted his career, had he played in the WC he would have been a star by now
bleeder is one the best defensive mids we have, along with whitley, bleeder was the main reason wim held the midfield together when he was in charge, i know that for a fact
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Maybe not Spann, but Theobald have ability.
Good job Flex.
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excellent analysis breds, imagine jemmott point out that guerra was special years ago :beermug:
you 'special' too...but i wouldn't hold dat against yuh ;D
Flex few of those players you call could fill Latapy shoes. Of the youger ones De Silva IMO comes closest in terms of ability and style. If De Silva and Leston Paul pursue professional ball after college that tandem will do great things for us in midfield playing just below Hector or Daryl Roberts. Flex...How Spann and Theobald see they way in here is between you and God oui 8)
spann is the best dead ball specialist we have, he have excellent dribblng skills and can pass the ball very well, the injury killed his world cup chance and that stunted his career, had he played in the WC he would have been a star by now
Keon Daniel may have someting to say about dat ;D
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excellent analysis breds, imagine jemmott point out that guerra was special years ago :beermug:
you 'special' too...but i wouldn't hold dat against yuh ;D
Flex few of those players you call could fill Latapy shoes. Of the youger ones De Silva IMO comes closest in terms of ability and style. If De Silva and Leston Paul pursue professional ball after college that tandem will do great things for us in midfield playing just below Hector or Daryl Roberts. Flex...How Spann and Theobald see they way in here is between you and God oui 8)
spann is the best dead ball specialist we have, he have excellent dribblng skills and can pass the ball very well, the injury killed his world cup chance and that stunted his career, had he played in the WC he would have been a star by now
Keon Daniel may have someting to say about dat ;D
i agree 8) but spann is the man breds :beermug:
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Flex,
A joy to read. Thanks for the work and the initiative to put this out there.
BTW well written.
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excellent analysis breds, imagine jemmott point out that guerra was special years ago :beermug:
you 'special' too...but i wouldn't hold dat against yuh ;D
Flex few of those players you call could fill Latapy shoes. Of the youger ones De Silva IMO comes closest in terms of ability and style. If De Silva and Leston Paul pursue professional ball after college that tandem will do great things for us in midfield playing just below Hector or Daryl Roberts. Flex...How Spann and Theobald see they way in here is between you and God oui 8)
spann is the best dead ball specialist we have, he have excellent dribblng skills and can pass the ball very well, the injury killed his world cup chance and that stunted his career, had he played in the WC he would have been a star by now
bleeder is one the best defensive mids we have, along with whitley, bleeder was the main reason wim held the midfield together when he was in charge, i know that for a fact
The problem with being special is that if talent isn't nutured at an early age and inculcated with good habits by the time growth slows they become ordinary men burdened with high expectations.
Plus I'm not sure what measure you use for being special. In terms of a #10 I would call Messi, Iniesta, Kaka or even an Ozil special. Gurra is talented but he is in that generation of T&T footballers whose development was at a standstill while their international peers began passing them by.
I hear yuh with Spann, he and Rougier were among the very last deletions from the 2006 WC. But thats the business. Spann had a contract with Lazio???? or some Italian side at a young age. He was more a defensive mid than Latapy tho.
As for Theobald, he was at his best in 2007 but he has not matched that performance on the international stage since. Anyway I won't fight them down, they have skill, experience and leadership to impart to the next generation.
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The problem with being special is that if talent isn't nutured at an early age and inculcated with good habits by the time growth slows they become ordinary men burdened with high expectations.
Geez Zandolie, that is so sad & true!
I couldn't help but think of the DB thread in the T&F section of the Forum when I read that!!
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Our pickings really that slim?
I'm not seeing any realistic prospects to take up that role these men don't play very well under pressure ... thats the defining characteristic .... the ability to perform at a high level whilst under pressure ... Maybe Hyland but he isn't a latapy type player more in the mould of a holding or box to box but no where close to being as creative as latas.
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Camps is de best dead ball specialist in Trinidad.
Yes. Oliver Camps is...once he in de TTFF. all ball dead
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Camps is de best dead ball specialist in Trinidad.
Yes. Oliver Camps is...once he in de TTFF. all ball dead
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Camps is de best dead ball specialist in Trinidad.
Yes. Oliver Camps is...once he in de TTFF. all ball dead
;D :rotfl: :rotfl:
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From the men after Latapy I see Jemmot was his best replacement,de fella had it,passes,dribbling ability,shot etc but as we all know now he didn't have one crucial attribute a head.Ah excluding men over 24 bcuz yuh looking for prospects and probable the best we have is Hyland under good guidance,the british press said he was our best player when we played them at HCS.Daniel probale second if he come off that left side and play a more central role.I've heard a lot about Sean De Silva but never saw him play,hopes he fulfill his god given destiny from what I've heard.
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Keon Daniel is the 10 for me, hes dynamite on set pieces and picking a pass. Its also interesting to observe how the union play him. Although he primarily is a left winger it seems like he has the green light to slide into the central spot behind Ruiz. Since it happens a couple times during each game i think its their plan B before they make a sub.
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Ah appreciate d effort in not only posting dis list but in 'researchin' it as well. Good stuff.....
However, allyuh hadda be mad!!!!
Not a single player on dat list good eough to do anyting except play d odd bess game. None ah dem could or should even be mentioned in d same sentence as Latapy.
Theobald?????????? Seriously????? MADNESS
Spann??? what make Spanna dead ball specialist? he score a free kick here and there? Steupssss
We scrapin d barrel here ppl......imagin d post singlin out men who have 'intelligent passing ability'.....lord have mercy....we is so much shit dat we jus want men who could pass d ball. Oh...and we lookin for 'experience' too. Men playin level shit over d years but dey have 'experience' so look out for dem in 2014.
Ppl.....we have NO PROSPECTS...NONE....NADA....ZERO. Lewwe face it and stop sayin men is dis and dat. I supporting mih team......but we hadda be realistic.
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Like allyuh cant read or wha ?
De man never say any of these players will be de next latapy.
This is a list of players we have now to work with.....
Boy, allyuh good we....
Allyuh doh write or contribute anything and only looking for comess.....
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While I appreciate the work/research Flex put in here I have 2 issues.
First is that them fellas from 25 on up cyah really be considered prospects anymore. They shoulda already stake a claim on that spot and none of them really have.
My second issue is with the whole premise of the article. It kinda furthers the notion that we need one magical player ala Latapy to make things right again in our football. And that if none of these fellas can fill his shoes, we're doomed. Well here's the thing Latas was a really special player and fellas with that kinda ability don't come around very often so we shouldn't be looking to depend on that. We are not Argentina or Brazil who seem to be able to churn these fellas out every few years. What Flex's research does reveal however, is that we have a decent crop of up and comers along with a couple of experienced veterans who, with the right kind of coaching and development could form the core of a decent team for years to come.
Cheers :beermug:
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I am very impress with this Mr Flex.
I will have this forwarded to the TTFF staff and see what they think of it.
Well done, despite the few critics here, we have a million coaches in T&T and no one stepping forward.
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I say forget de number 10 and lets find ourselves a better number 7 and number 9. Give Hyland,/ Birchall, Boucaud, Daniel, Thompson and Guerra de midfield and concentrate on working dem wings. when dat gets boring.. Guerra and Daniel have enough touch to slot to de wings from de middle. Concentrate on de wings. Our best forward on paper is KJ. We must play to our strengths.
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I am very impress with this Mr Flex.
I will have this forwarded to the TTFF staff and see what they thing of it.
Well done, despite the few critics here, we have a million coaches in T&T and no one stepping forward.
Download this and send it to them for me please.
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Good writeup dey Flex. Hope the new number 10 stand up.
Hopefully after we find the next number 10 we could then send out ah search team for the next number 1 thru 9 and ah number 11. The bench go follow after that :beermug:
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Camps is de best dead ball specialist in Trinidad.
Yes. Oliver Camps is...once he in de TTFF. all ball dead
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
yuh fukker... long time yuh eh make man laugh so LOL yuh come good dey.
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Flex, I don't know if you saw the Union vs RM friendly the other night, but after watching Keon Daniel sleep walk through the first half in that friendly, I realized that Keon Daniel is exactly who I thought he was, a lazy, unintelligent, found technically wanting, and barefooted.footballer, who does not possess the intelligence or the skills of a #10. Here he was, in the biggest game of his life, against one of the best club teams in the world, in front of possibly millions of people watching, and a frienly nevertheless, with nothing to loose, and a perfect chance to show the fans of the Union, the coahcing staff, the owners of the team, and one particular Trini watching from afar, me, the silky smooth skills that I hear other people talk about but yet to see, Keon Daniel produced a brain fart. All of his passes except one, and that went to no one in particular, were side to side with the man close to him. It was as though the rock was too hot to handle. Daniel's most dangerous pass was to a man in white from RM.
Keon Daniel, #10. Nah, you are kidding me.
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in "MY " Opinion.. we will die before we see another Russell Latapy..so too will the good people of Falkirk...
so i will take a Guerra or Hughton hector...that the two...2014 depends a lot on them 2
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Good break down Flex.
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I think Carlos Edwards would be great in the center. He deserve to be our number 10.
See the game vs Mexico the last time we played them.
http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/fixtures-results.html?view=matchreport&id=498
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I think Carlos Edwards would be great in the center. He deserve to be our number 10.
See the game vs Mexico the last time we played them.
http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/fixtures-results.html?view=matchreport&id=498
Alright Alright stop nah man yuh making meh balls hurt meh,I like carlos as a right back or winger....
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Camps is de best dead ball specialist in Trinidad.
Yes. Oliver Camps is...once he in de TTFF. all ball dead
:devil: :devil:
that was a bullet sah
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From the men after Latapy I see Jemmot was his best replacement,de fella had it,passes,dribbling ability,shot etc but as we all know now he didn't have one crucial attribute a head.Ah excluding men over 24 bcuz yuh looking for prospects and probable the best we have is Hyland under good guidance,the british press said he was our best player when we played them at HCS.Daniel probale second if he come off that left side and play a more central role.I've heard a lot about Sean De Silva but never saw him play,hopes he fulfill his god given destiny from what I've heard.
i remember speaking with LP about jemmott and his exact sentence was that jemmott was the ronaldhino of trinidad and the only thing he was missing was the mental fortitude to carry on, LP is a man who know his ball and i have always had the utmost respect for him
guerra can be special, i don't know if he is special like jemmott in his youth but he can be a deadly player in the centre mid imo, he needs to get his head in the right place and play overseas, i hope its not too late
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Good Observation Flex!!! well put!!
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I think Kevin Molino should be on the list Flex.
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The more I think about it the more I see an issue ... I think realistically we don't have a number 10 and will not anytime in the near future .. perhaps an adjustment should be in place where we can concentrate on two "holding midfielders" like Birchy and the youth from Belgium who we "do" and concentrate maybe on finding "wingers" and building our plays through that route. We are looking for something we dont have yet overlooking what we do have. If the team is to be built around KJ who can do nothing more than head a ball or play it back to the midfield lets exploit this .. we dont need a "number 10" to be effective ... having good wingers still makes teams more dangerous despite the ever evolving tactics etc ... use what we have not what we want!
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What have we done or what are we doing at present to develop our young players (8-12 years) in to future #10's at the senior level?
Nice attempt Flex, and I understand and applaud your intentions, but them players yuh calling dey too old already, IMO. I was lucky enough to see Latas from 16-17 years till his prime, and none on your list can be considered the next number 10, not after Latas. The one player who I think could possibly achieve that number 10 status is Matthew Woo Ling.
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Dont want to spoil the fun but shouldn't we be more concerned with numbers 1 to 9 and number 11 ?? just wondering if even we get another Latapy whether that would be enough ???
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Dont want to spoil the fun but shouldn't we be more concerned with numbers 1 to 9 and number 11 ?? just wondering if even we get another Latapy whether that would be enough ???
True...
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Dont want to spoil the fun but shouldn't we be more concerned with numbers 1 to 9 and number 11 ?? just wondering if even we get another Latapy whether that would be enough ???
It shoulda be a hunt for the next TTFF, fost !!!!
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Whats the latest with Leston Paul, did we lose another player in the US ?
And where is Matthew Woo Ling ?
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If the truth be told I will retire the number 10 shirt . No one presently can fit Latapy's shirt. I heard Desilva is the only pretender at the moment.
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If the truth be told I will retire the number 10 shirt . No one presently can fit Latapy's shirt. I heard Desilva is the only pretender at the moment.
You living in a dream....
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Tinto stock fall so much he eh even get a mention?
Only Keon Daniel in that list is a number 10 type.
Molino is a name that pops up as well.
Where is Guerra? He has not really done anything of note at any level despite all his ratings. At 24, is time for him to start being a regular name in the papers.
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While I appreciate the work/research Flex put in here I have 2 issues.
First is that them fellas from 25 on up cyah really be considered prospects anymore. They shoulda already stake a claim on that spot and none of them really have.
My second issue is with the whole premise of the article. It kinda furthers the notion that we need one magical player ala Latapy to make things right again in our football. And that if none of these fellas can fill his shoes, we're doomed. Well here's the thing Latas was a really special player and fellas with that kinda ability don't come around very often so we shouldn't be looking to depend on that. We are not Argentina or Brazil who seem to be able to churn these fellas out every few years. What Flex's research does reveal however, is that we have a decent crop of up and comers along with a couple of experienced veterans who, with the right kind of coaching and development could form the core of a decent team for years to come.
Cheers :beermug:
Well said! Ah hope people reading and listening!
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Northern Oklahoma State.
Northern Cruises Past Neosho County C.C. 3-0
Playing much better than they did in the first game the Mavericks eased past Neosho County Community College 3-0. Northern got off to a bit of a slow start, but Isaiah Mejias broke the game open with a goal in the twenty-first minute after receiving a pass from Ramon Whittaker. The Mavericks had to wait until the second half for their next goal, but it was a goal worth waiting for. Mejias dribbled nearly the entire Panther team down the left sideline before playing a ball to Grant Wilks, who found Tanner Hamilton, who hit an unbelievable first time shot from twenty-five yards out for a goal. Edgar Resendiz finished off Neosho with a late goal with Brandon Alt picking up the assist. Taylor Parrott and Ray Clark combined in goal for the first shutout of the season for the Mavericks.
Isaiah wears #10 for Northern.
Your next #10 is probably playing at Northern Oklahoma State. Only time will tell.
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I saw Isaiah Mejias play before, very good player.....
But we only get one out of 30 players (especially as of lately) in the US who does really make it at internationaL level.
Hopefully, this is not the end of Isaiah Mejias and Leston Paul.
And glad to see Sean De Silva stepping up.
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latters came out of a jah lillywhite camp in the early years, it is guys like jah who help produce our no. 10 and i think the future no.10 would come from guys like jah, da da etc..
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Matthew Woo Ling is now with W Connection.
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:o wow if i were Connection i would invite all sorts of foreign clubs to come and play friendlies. This team has some of the best attacking young talent in TNT. Hector(i know he aint so young anymore), Britto, Winchester, Woo Ling they could make alot of money from player sales in the next few years if the play their cards right.
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Matthew Woo Ling is now with W Connection.
His latest youtube vid.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YR1_Lq7elYc
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passing is nice...ah lil more size and he good to go
I'm really impressed that his family helpin him workout till late........or maybe da was juss for the video
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Leston Paul is built like a true number 10. He plays like them hispanic players, nice one touch play with good runs on and off the ball.
I would like to see him considered for T&T soon.
I am surprised though that Paul and De Silva couldn't even make a US A League.
Especially Paul, he is good.
Spann is a big disappointment, my biggest disappointment, after his stint in Italy, I thought he would have surpass his dad. And where is Silas Spann ?
Andre Toussaint is a good player to, I am surprise no teams never picked him up afther Joe Public went out.
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From my perspective I would love to have an ideal #10 on my team but sometimes we don't have that luxury so we should look at what we do have and figure out how best to employ the talents we have.
Take for instance Manchester United, not one of my favorite teams but when you examine what goes on you find some very interesting things in regard to systems and philosophy.
Should we force players to play within a system (Beenhaaker) or do we design a system which suits the players allowing them the freedom of expression.
Manchester United don't employ traditional #10's and they don't play with a holding midfielder; yet the philosophy is attacking football. The philosophy of freedom to go forward takes precidence thus players determine the style of football. This I find to be profoundly interesting.
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Woo Ling....I said it first!! ;D
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So... Is this topic worth a look at again? How is Woo Ling coming along?
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For #10, Currently Molino. Guerra as back up.
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So... Is this topic worth a look at again? How is Woo Ling coming along?
Woo who??
When last anybody hear about him?
Who is he playing for these days??
VB
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So... Is this topic worth a look at again? How is Woo Ling coming along?
Woo who??
When last anybody hear about him?
Who is he playing for these days??
VB
Saw him play for St. Anthony last year. Good player but not in Latas zip code.
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Molino is playing hot right now! Great ball handling and off the ball movements. Finishing his chances too.
It'll be great next year when Orlando City plays in the MLS and he gets better competition. Might be the guy we really look at to lead us to 2018.
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So... Is this topic worth a look at again? How is Woo Ling coming along?
Woo who??
When last anybody hear about him?
Who is he playing for these days??
VB
Saw him play for St. Anthony last year. Good player but not in Latas zip code.
That's a shame, 'cause we could do with another one :p
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I guess none of these guys were suitable number 10's.
Anyone have any candidate for number 10's?
Matthew Woo Ling was a disappointment, he just disappeared.
I hope he comes back or I hope he is ok, cause he was a pretty decent player.
Hart really need to pull into the team a potential number 10 player from the earlies and just train them.
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I guess none of these guys were suitable number 10's.
Anyone have any candidate for number 10's?
Matthew Woo Ling was a disappointment, he just disappeared.
I hope he comes back or I hope he is ok, cause he was a pretty decent player.
Hart really need to pull into the team a potential number 10 player from the earlies and just train them.
He's 17!! They need to be able to drive before you start accusing players of disappearing lol
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is there any diamonds in the super league?
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is there any diamonds in the super league?
Stefan De Las is supposed to be good (but he's maybe more defensive mid?) and I've heard good things about Boucher (how old is he now? I've got him in his low 20's but I think that might be wrong?) - the majority of the best players in the Super League are getting on these days. There's also Simeon Augustus who played well at Petrotrin and T&TEC - I don't know where he is now (he was with T&TEC when they went bust), but he played centre mid.
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I guess none of these guys were suitable number 10's.
Anyone have any candidate for number 10's?
Matthew Woo Ling was a disappointment, he just disappeared.
I hope he comes back or I hope he is ok, cause he was a pretty decent player.
Hart really need to pull into the team a potential number 10 player from the earlies and just train them.
He's 17!! They need to be able to drive before you start accusing players of disappearing lol
Stop with yh assness....
It have plenty players broke out at a young age including Yorke.
Get him on the team, he don't have to play, but train with the seniors for now.
You have to spell it it for some f00ckers here all de time.
Yuh related to Contro?
Aymeric Laporte, Marquinhos, Kurt Zouma, Simone Scuffet, Luke Shaw, Adrien Rabiot, Leon Goretzka, Gerard Deulofeu, Lucas Piazon and Adnan Januzaj.
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he was with T&TEC when they went bust
Leh get it straight. When management bust them.
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I say John Paul Rochford, Isa Bramble, Mark Ramdeen, Jaiye Sheppard or Judah Garcia.
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I say John Paul Rochford, Isa Bramble, Mark Ramdeen, Jaiye Sheppard or Judah Garcia.
Clearly, Judah Garcia!!! ::)
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Nah two 8s and 6 any day especially if any of those 8s can drop into 10 as needed....I know fenwick may have different ideas but I feel we would do well in the short term with molino and hyland operating with a single out and out DM
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Nah two 8s and 6 any day especially if any of those 8s can drop into 10 as needed....I know fenwick may have different ideas but I feel we would do well in the short term with molino and hyland operating with a single out and out DM
Yuh gehin mix up wit de Garcias ahwah. Judah fits da 8 role yuh describe dey. Of course he shouldn't replace Molino but lay alongside him, or be his understudy
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Nah two 8s and 6 any day especially if any of those 8s can drop into 10 as needed....I know fenwick may have different ideas but I feel we would do well in the short term with molino and hyland operating with a single out and out DM
Yuh gehin mix up wit de Garcias ahwah. Judah fits da 8 role yuh describe dey. Of course he shouldn't replace Molino but lay alongside him, or be his understudy
My argument was for two attack capable mids and ah DM specific personnel wasn't really mandatory, from what I saw of the player I would agree though....I use hyland because he could fall into the pivot as needed as well as 10 and molino would do bits in both 10 and 8 he defends like a striker though so defensive side might have issues, but I like d idea of ah flexible midfield 3
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Nah two 8s and 6 any day especially if any of those 8s can drop into 10 as needed....I know fenwick may have different ideas but I feel we would do well in the short term with molino and hyland operating with a single out and out DM
Yuh gehin mix up wit de Garcias ahwah. Judah fits da 8 role yuh describe dey. Of course he shouldn't replace Molino but lay alongside him, or be his understudy
My argument was for two attack capable mids and ah DM specific personnel wasn't really mandatory, from what I saw of the player I would agree though....I use hyland because he could fall into the pivot as needed as well as 10 and molino would do bits in both 10 and 8 he defends like a striker though so defensive side might have issues, but I like d idea of ah flexible midfield 3
Yeah two 8s & a 6 go be Tunda. Cyar wait to see Fenwick team.
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Laaawd. Y’all experts and y’all numbers. And y’all doh even know who or what type of players yuh have. Maybe is old school to pick the best system to suite the ability of the players available . The coaches will pick the best system to suit the best players and we go wear it to everybody party, till we can afford changes.Then we can afford multiple suits and maybe get invited to bigger fete. ;D :beermug: :beermug:
I guess I on a Carnival head.
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Laaawd. Y’all experts and y’all numbers. And y’all doh even know who or what type of players yuh have. Maybe is old school to pick the best system to suite the ability of the players available . The coaches will pick the best system to suit the best players and we go wear it to everybody party, till we can afford changes.Then we can afford multiple suits and maybe get invited to bigger fete. ;D :beermug: :beermug:
I guess I on a Carnival head.
My approach is always data driven, that is how I throw ideas out, Dennis team had really nonfunctional pivot, I looked at dat looked usual suspects and try to plug an issue now when we know d who and what under Fenwick d wheels in mih head goh spin again with d new "data" til den chill and lehwe enjoy talkin out we ass nah ;) :beermug:
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Jemmott
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Laaawd. Y’all experts and y’all numbers. And y’all doh even know who or what type of players yuh have. Maybe is old school to pick the best system to suite the ability of the players available . The coaches will pick the best system to suit the best players and we go wear it to everybody party, till we can afford changes.Then we can afford multiple suits and maybe get invited to bigger fete. ;D :beermug: :beermug:
I guess I on a Carnival head.
My approach is always data driven, that is how I throw ideas out, Dennis team had really nonfunctional pivot, I looked at dat looked usual suspects and try to plug an issue now when we know d who and what under Fenwick d wheels in mih head goh spin again with d new "data" til den chill and lehwe enjoy talkin out we ass nah ;) :beermug:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: well said :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Laaawd. Y’all experts and y’all numbers. And y’all doh even know who or what type of players yuh have. Maybe is old school to pick the best system to suite the ability of the players available . The coaches will pick the best system to suit the best players and we go wear it to everybody party, till we can afford changes.Then we can afford multiple suits and maybe get invited to bigger fete. ;D :beermug: :beermug:
I guess I on a Carnival head.
My approach is always data driven, that is how I throw ideas out, Dennis team had really nonfunctional pivot, I looked at dat looked usual suspects and try to plug an issue now when we know d who and what under Fenwick d wheels in mih head goh spin again with d new "data" til den chill and lehwe enjoy talkin out we ass nah ;)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :chilling: