We can't pay one overseas coach, now we have two. I hope these guys know what they aare doing. I think that the coaches have great credentials and should do well. My concern as always is with the local football body (TTFF) and whehter they have their act together.
Go Soca Warriors!!!
Wim preparing a law suit, but he will lose because from what I heard de man got out of order many times and the last straw was with Lincoln Phillips with blows pass breifly. Still love the brand of football we was playing under Beenhakker and Wim, we looked more organised than ever before.
Not bad news, considering this Maturana have more creditals than Anton.
Can Francisco Maturana speak English ? wonder how he will coach T&T, we might have to hire a translator too.
Anybody know de good and bad on this coach.. ?
I see Kevaughn Connell didn't get de call.....
Wim preparing a law suit, but he will lose because from what I heard de man got out of order many times and the last straw was with Lincoln Phillips with blows pass breifly. Still love the brand of football we was playing under Beenhakker and Wim, we looked more organised than ever before.
Zoran in charge of we youths, well yes..... 1 step forward, 2 backwards. Well on de bright side of things it could have been senseless McComie.....
Ah feel we might need Marvin Andrews, Brent Sancho and Dennis Lawrence to help we defence as them local defenders not ready.... pass on some experience a little.... Kelvin Jack should also get call up...
me eh know what to make of this.
matz is talk english?
Although I am partial to Wim and I would always believe in my heart that he got a raw deal, I could live with the fact that the two parties had to part ways.
What I have a hard time grappling with is they have abandoned the Dutch influence that got us to the “promise land.” I would have been happy with Maturana as senior coach and a Dutchman in charge of our youth development, not Zaron Vranes.
I am not surprised though. Jack Warner has proved once again that he is impetuous, short sighted and he has no vision for our football. I long for the day when he is no longer in charge.
Trinidad Guardian
BY GREGORY TRUJILLO
WORLD-RENOWNED Colombian coach Francisco Maturana has accepted the position as coach of T&T Soca Warriors left vacant by the six-month suspension of Dutchman Wim Rijsbergen.
Official confirmation of his interim appointment came at a hastily-called press conference yesterday at the Banquet Hall, Queen’s Park Oval.
Maturana will guide the fortunes of T&T football over the next six months from February 1—officially his first day on the job—when he will witness the friendly here between Guatemala and T&T.
The Colombian will be looking after measures to keep the T&T flag flying, after a year the state of the game at national level hit its lowest ebb, with the banning of the majority of top overseas professionals who competed in the 2006 World Cup in Germany because of a money dispute with the governing T&T Football Federation (TTFF).
Maturana, also known as Pacho, has had a colourful career both as a player and manager-coach.
The man who took his country to three World Cups was voted South American coach of the year by El Pais in 1993 and was ranked third in the Spanish Newspaper Marca’s list of the world’s greatest managers.
His coaching genius helped Colombia to qualify for a second time in a row in the 1994 World Cup.
Highlight of his country’s qualification was an historic 5-0 triumph over Argentina in Buenos Aires—a scoreline that made Colombia a surprising favourite for the World Cup.
Maturana got the nod for the position ahead of 12 other top foreign coaches, among those of whom were former England international John Barnes, three Germans, two Brazilians and two Dutchmen.
“We needed the best,” said Fifa vice president Jack Warner, the special adviser to the TTFF, at yesterday’s press conference.
“I found him within 24 hours,” Warner continued. “He was here on January 1. Anybody who leaves his family to discuss football on New Year’s Day has to be serious.”
Maturana himself was surprised of the appointment.
“A week ago I was invited by Mr Warner to come to T&T, “ he related. “I thought it was just to have a meeting. But as it turned out it was to coach T&T.”
Maturana said he could not turn down the offer: “Because T&T and Mr Warner are well known and respected in world football.
“After five minutes, I had bought into Warner’s dream and what he wanted. Let’s say that I was appointed to join in that dream and participate in that dream.”
Referring to his new job as “an attractive challenge and proposition,” Maturana stated that both outside and inside football he is a worker and an achiever.
Warner strongly believes that Maturana will be in charge of the national senior team leading up to the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and beyond.
“I know Rijsbergen will not be back here. Since he left, he has not contacted anybody. We needed the best available coach and I went for the best.”
Dutchman Rijsbergen, who replaced Leo Beenhakker at the end of the World Cup in 2006, was relieved of his duties as national coach following an physical altercation with Technical Director Lincoln Phillips. He received a six-month suspension for the incident by the Disciplinary Committee of the TTFF.
Rijsbergen’s assistant, countryman Van Deinsen was also relieved but on medical grounds.
Anton Corneal, who had been in charge since the suspension of Rijsbergen on December 4, will be assistant to Maturana.
The senior national team will also have a new manager. Replacing Sam Phillip will be 37-year-old David Mohammed.
Hang on, the TTFF did not FIRE Wim! its a 6 month break. Already TTFF gone and hire a famous coach on the interim?! Nah man, Wim is getting a raw deal. Treat the man with class nuh, especially after all the shit he put up with. steups. Its like if u separate from your wife for a little bit and immediately hook up with the neighbor next door and have no intention of going back.
This is a MASTERSTROKE by Jack
4th Place finisher of the Hex plays 5th placed South America.
Who better to hire than a South American who pass thru South American qualifying umpteen times. Know each ground, the styles, the players and the tactics to eliminate S.A. opposition.
Now realistically TT has to qualify outright...but if we slip and get the 4th place, this fella have the experience to help us battle it out.
Jack yes...yuh have to admire him the HERO and Saviour of TT football yet again.
Imagine you convince a man in 5 minutes after he reach in New Years Day.
But ent I tell alyuh long time Wim and Anton was caretaker till qualifiers.
how birchall ent get call, is he injured?
This is a MASTERSTROKE by Jack
4th Place finisher of the Hex plays 5th placed South America.
Who better to hire than a South American who pass thru South American qualifying umpteen times. Know each ground, the styles, the players and the tactics to eliminate S.A. opposition.
Now realistically TT has to qualify outright...but if we slip and get the 4th place, this fella have the experience to help us battle it out.
Jack yes...yuh have to admire him the HERO and Saviour of TT football yet again.
Imagine you convince a man in 5 minutes after he reach in New Years Day.
But ent I tell alyuh long time Wim and Anton was caretaker till qualifiers.
yuh hit the nail on the head breddah... maturana is a boss coach, i knew he was good b4 but when i read the man resume, it is extremely impressive, i rather see our team playing south american free flowing creative ball than european ball in all honesty, i think this was a stroke of genius by warner...
God is de BOSS....
yea boss birchall injured with a hamstriing i think .
congrats to the colombian and if allyuh check he first real game cuz he observin the one ash wednesday
IS AGAINST JAMROCK
This is a MASTERSTROKE by Jack
4th Place finisher of the Hex plays 5th placed South America.
Who better to hire than a South American who pass thru South American qualifying umpteen times. Know each ground, the styles, the players and the tactics to eliminate S.A. opposition.
Now realistically TT has to qualify outright...but if we slip and get the 4th place, this fella have the experience to help us battle it out.
Jack yes...yuh have to admire him the HERO and Saviour of TT football yet again.
Imagine you convince a man in 5 minutes after he reach in New Years Day.
But ent I tell alyuh long time Wim and Anton was caretaker till qualifiers.
yuh hit the nail on the head breddah... maturana is a boss coach, i knew he was good b4 but when i read the man resume, it is extremely impressive, i rather see our team playing south american free flowing creative ball than european ball in all honesty, i think this was a stroke of genius by warner...
God is de BOSS....
make up yuh mind..in the other thread you say u knew vaguely about Maturana until u read his resume..in this thread u say he is ah boss coach, u knew he was good b4..which one?.... ;D
This is a MASTERSTROKE by Jack
4th Place finisher of the Hex plays 5th placed South America.
Who better to hire than a South American who pass thru South American qualifying umpteen times. Know each ground, the styles, the players and the tactics to eliminate S.A. opposition.
Now realistically TT has to qualify outright...but if we slip and get the 4th place, this fella have the experience to help us battle it out.
Jack yes...yuh have to admire him the HERO and Saviour of TT football yet again.
Imagine you convince a man in 5 minutes after he reach in New Years Day.
But ent I tell alyuh long time Wim and Anton was caretaker till qualifiers.
From what I red on Bigsoccer, Maturana is considered persona non grata by the football fans in Costa Rica as he did a terrible job when he coached them. He also did a terrible job in his last stint with Colombia.
From what I red on Bigsoccer, Maturana is considered persona non grata by the football fans in Costa Rica as he did a terrible job when he coached them. He also did a terrible job in his last stint with Colombia.
yea boss birchall injured with a hamstriing i think .
congrats to the colombian and if allyuh check he first real game cuz he observin the one ash wednesday
IS AGAINST JAMROCK
More on Maturana (As provided in media conference press kit courtesy wikipedia and Maturana).
As a Player[/b]
Born in Quibdó, Chocó, Francisco Maturana moved with his family at an early age to the city of Medellín. Here he played professional soccer while attending the University of Antioquia where he later obtained a degree in Dentistry.
Me eh know how Spann get call. He injured more and play less than Birchall. He injured all now after coming back for a half of football.yea boss birchall injured with a hamstriing i think .
congrats to the colombian and if allyuh check he first real game cuz he observin the one ash wednesday
IS AGAINST JAMROCK
yet Spann(hardly playin at all?) & Edwards(Rolls Royce-in the garage) get called ! ah wonder how fast ah Out-of-Season Samuel will compare to ah relatively slow, non defensive In-season Samuel ? hmmmnnn...not an argument for Birchall yetthe defensive calls in mind must be on like corn - also in their off-season....includes Avery...an Cyd gone Puna...like we hitting the groundrunningcrawling outta ah WC(latrine)....at least it's interesting
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all;)
MATURANA IS A BAD CHOICE. HE IS WAY PAST HIS SELL DATE. WE SHOULD HAVE STAYED DUTCH.
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
From what I red on Bigsoccer, Maturana is considered persona non grata by the football fans in Costa Rica as he did a terrible job when he coached them. He also did a terrible job in his last stint with Colombia.
yea boss birchall injured with a hamstriing i think .If that is the case then why did Edward get called. He's injured as well and in the healing process just like Birchall.
congrats to the colombian and if allyuh check he first real game cuz he observin the one ash wednesday
IS AGAINST JAMROCK
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
Why doesnt he rate Birchall then?
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
Why doesnt he rate Birchall then?
Corneal Senior always use to say there are better local midfielders dan Birchall so we should give de locals a chance ahead of him.
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
Why doesnt he rate Birchall then?
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
Why doesnt he rate Birchall then?
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
Why doesnt he rate Birchall then?
He say Birchall cyah pass, he slow, he control not good, and it have plenty better local players dan him. In other words...he say Birchall is not an international footballer.
in my opinion we have some youths that will get call with maturana as coach... fellahs like guerra and britto, not to mention hardest and oliver...
all yuh stay dey and feel our team wont play well, birchall is a loss but we have other players who are more than willing to fill that void...and will fill that void...
God is de BOSS....
in my opinion we have some youths that will get call with maturana as coach... fellahs like guerra and britto, not to mention hardest and oliver...
all yuh stay dey and feel our team wont play well, birchall is a loss but we have other players who are more than willing to fill that void...and will fill that void...
God is de BOSS....
in my opinion we have some youths that will get call with maturana as coach... fellahs like guerra and britto, not to mention hardest and oliver...
all yuh stay dey and feel our team wont play well, birchall is a loss but we have other players who are more than willing to fill that void...and will fill that void...
God is de BOSS....
he calling up ah 15 year old now ::)
in my opinion we have some youths that will get call with maturana as coach... fellahs like guerra and britto, not to mention hardest and oliver...
all yuh stay dey and feel our team wont play well, birchall is a loss but we have other players who are more than willing to fill that void...and will fill that void...
God is de BOSS....
where Hardest playing now?
He say Birchall cyah pass, he slow, he control not good, and it have plenty better local players dan him. In other words...he say Birchall is not an international footballer.
i too find Birchall touch did (can't still say if that is the case) sometimes let him down, but nobody on we team ever put down wuk and run to rass like that, wheter because he bad pass or somebody else, not once standup and complain and point...our locals may have the skill, but they doh have the discipline or gumption...this is what he added...besides the fact he have a proven killer shot...Alvin could say wha he want in his professional capacity, buh in critizing that guy by saying he added nothing, he was quite unprofessional and WRONG....Mr nobody blindman me saw dat....buh say what, Alvin only showing he human, and biggin up we locals, not a totally bad thing...say wha
All yuh expect Me mum to get pick when Corneal had a say. All yuh doh follow football ah what? D real Corneal Alvin eh rate d man at all
I tell people once Anton get appoint that dat was it fuh Birchie T&T career.
Why doesnt he rate Birchall then?
He has said on at least two occasions that comes to my memory that he doesn't rate Birchall and that there are many local players that are much better than Birchall and that he could never make his starting 11. He cited poor first touch and giving away the ball easliy as his reasons. The same Birchall that played 90 mins in all the WC games. The same Birchall that is one of the very very few Warriors that isn't afraid to shoot.
Picture Denzil Theobald with Birchall's work ethic.
in my opinion we have some youths that will get call with maturana as coach... fellahs like guerra and britto, not to mention hardest and oliver...
A friend of mines bring up the point that the key might be how well Maturanna can speak english because as allyuh know we boys at times is not the brightest so how the instructions are interpreted to them might be of paramount importance...but point to note of you could get Columbia to qualify amongst Argentina , Brazil etc you have to have something....I'm looking forward to what he can do.........I know he cant be worse than Wim thats for sure.hear nuh
Dat is a big big coach doh.
Hmmmmm
I feel Keane will "suggest" to Edwards that he not come back for this one so soon after injury. Then it will be up to Jack and the TTFF to decide if they want to force the issue.
Why are we playing a match with a NON fifa team on a NON fifa matchday?firstly, dais de Special Advisor, FIFA VP, way man ;D
If all you feel keane letting go Jones and Edwards, his two most important players three days before one of the make or break games of the season without a fight crapaud smoke alyuh pipe.
I feel Keane will "suggest" to Edwards that he not come back for this one so soon after injury. Then it will be up to Jack and the TTFF to decide if they want to force the issue.
Is the 6th an official FIFA match day or not? I notice Sunderland away to Liverpool on the 2nd and then they host Wigan on the 9th. However, the next EPL game after that is on the 23rd, which would suggest that the international matchweek is from the 13th to the 20th
Why are we playing a match with a NON fifa team on a NON fifa matchday? If all you feel keane letting go Jones and Edwards, his two most important players three days before one of the make or break games of the season without a fight crapaud smoke alyuh pipe.
Other than his shot and his work rate, I personally believe that Birchall (maybe not at his debut but as of his pre injury self) was one of the most consistent crossers of a moving ball that put on a tnt shirt in the last 3 years and still available to do so.ah man up above rating Hardest above Birchall......... ::)............dais how we is I guess......
Throwing this boy by the wayside would be a huge disservice to him, to trini football and to our own image.
I feel Keane will "suggest" to Edwards that he not come back for this one so soon after injury. Then it will be up to Jack and the TTFF to decide if they want to force the issue.
Is the 6th an official FIFA match day or not? I notice Sunderland away to Liverpool on the 2nd and then they host Wigan on the 9th. However, the next EPL game after that is on the 23rd, which would suggest that the international matchweek is from the 13th to the 20th
Why are we playing a match with a NON fifa team on a NON fifa matchday? If all you feel keane letting go Jones and Edwards, his two most important players three days before one of the make or break games of the season without a fight crapaud smoke alyuh pipe.
According to the fifa international match calendar, the 6th is as an official fifa match day
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/calendarlive/intl_mc_fifa_2006_2008_en_7920.pdf
What if Anton Corneal as reported selected this team , trained this squad and received immeasurable success against Guadeloupe, would it change his status?
Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
Wait nah... What input do you think the latest coach would have on player selection and preparation for the alleged Ash Wednesday friendly against Guadeloupe?
What if Anton Corneal as reported selected this team , trained this squad and received immeasurable success against Guadeloupe, would it change his status?
Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
i myself would love to hear why maturana is a bad pick myself? ??? based on what?
God is de BOSS....
Chris Birchall has been out of action for weeks and has only just recovered from injury
he is clearly a long way off from being fully match fit
so i fully understand and agree with the decision not to include him at this time
Add Spann to that last. Injured most of the season. Struggling to make the team the rest of the time. Just like Birchall, except in an much much WORSE team.Chris Birchall has been out of action for weeks and has only just recovered from injury
he is clearly a long way off from being fully match fit
so i fully understand and agree with the decision not to include him at this time
I agree with you, but I have to wonder why Edwards was called when he hasn't even returned from his injury yet. Seems as though there is a double standard there.
I still don't expect Edwards to make the trip though - don't think we want to piss off Keane this early in the campaign.
Maybe Corneal seein BM post an dem bout Jamrock an day britz, an he say, " nah, TnT doh need no stinkin Britz" ;)Add Spann to that last. Injured most of the season. Struggling to make the team the rest of the time. Just like Birchall, except in an much much WORSE team.Chris Birchall has been out of action for weeks and has only just recovered from injuryI agree with you, but I have to wonder why Edwards was called when he hasn't even returned from his injury yet. Seems as though there is a double standard there.
he is clearly a long way off from being fully match fit
so i fully understand and agree with the decision not to include him at this time
I still don't expect Edwards to make the trip though - don't think we want to piss off Keane this early in the campaign.
He get call, though.
How come no MLS players get called? No Telesford or Avery John, I know the MLS wont be in season but so is the PFL
How come no MLS players get called? No Telesford or Avery John, I know the MLS wont be in season but so is the PFLOr Sealy, who seemed to be on a hot streak.
How come no MLS players get called? No Telesford or Avery John, I know the MLS wont be in season but so is the PFLOr Sealy, who seemed to be on a hot streak.
That's true. I guess I keep looking at Roberts as a midfielder even though we never use him as such.How come no MLS players get called? No Telesford or Avery John, I know the MLS wont be in season but so is the PFLOr Sealy, who seemed to be on a hot streak.
Samuel get called and he plays MLS
Telesford injured and hasn't played in a while
With Stern, KJ, Daryll Roberts and Jason Scotland called as the four forwards..all of whom are match fit and in good form..it hard to make a case for Sealy.
Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
i myself would love to hear why maturana is a bad pick myself? ??? based on what?
God is de BOSS....
I wouldn't go as far as to say he is a bad pick. However, all I've been hearing from Colombian and Costa Rican fans is negative. The Colombians seem to consider that he had the most talented side in Colombian football history in 94, and that qualifying was a matter of course - 5-0 thrashing of Argentina in Buenos Aires aside - but that he messed up when it came to the actual tournament, notably in his player selection.
Then his last turn at the helm was pretty short lived as was the case in Costa Rica, where in both cases he was dismissed for caastrophic results.
The only thing that seems to bode well to hear them talk is that he actually is not that far off from being a "Beenie ball" specialist. (whether this is true or not is left to be seen) With a bit of luck he might be able to install the same discipline in the new crop of defenders that Beenie did in the old.
Likely the same Colombian fans that wanted him to drop Pibe Valderrama.
Likely the same Colombian fans that wanted him to drop Pibe Valderrama.
Actually, it would seem that HE was the one that didn't want Valderrama on the team, though I'm not sure whether this refers to his first or second stint...
I'm assuming it was his first and he didn't get his way...
Likely the same Colombian fans that wanted him to drop Pibe Valderrama.
Actually, it would seem that HE was the one that didn't want Valderrama on the team, though I'm not sure whether this refers to his first or second stint...
I'm assuming it was his first and he didn't get his way...
Great appointment ... being from Columbia he should be able to handle the crime and drugs in T&T ;D
Among those given the chance to impress Maturana yesterday were Kevon Neaves, the left-footed former St Anthony's college winger who is at South Florida College in the United States. Neaves has been with the national Under-20 and Under-23 teams and now has the chance to vie for senior selection.
Not only that, but Neaves has already played for the senior team. He came on as a substitute against Iceland.QuoteAmong those given the chance to impress Maturana yesterday were Kevon Neaves, the left-footed former St Anthony's college winger who is at South Florida College in the United States. Neaves has been with the national Under-20 and Under-23 teams and now has the chance to vie for senior selection.
Mr. Prescott, yuh couldn't fact check? What is South Florida College? Allyuh doh play allyuh could mangle names of institutions. It calls into question whether other elements of your work are accurate. Oh gorm man ... The University of South Florida is wha yuh looking for.
Not only that, but Neaves has already played for the senior team. He came on as a substitute against Iceland.QuoteAmong those given the chance to impress Maturana yesterday were Kevon Neaves, the left-footed former St Anthony's college winger who is at South Florida College in the United States. Neaves has been with the national Under-20 and Under-23 teams and now has the chance to vie for senior selection.
Mr. Prescott, yuh couldn't fact check? What is South Florida College? Allyuh doh play allyuh could mangle names of institutions. It calls into question whether other elements of your work are accurate. Oh gorm man ... The University of South Florida is wha yuh looking for.
QuoteAmong those given the chance to impress Maturana yesterday were Kevon Neaves, the left-footed former St Anthony's college winger who is at South Florida College in the United States. Neaves has been with the national Under-20 and Under-23 teams and now has the chance to vie for senior selection.
Mr. Prescott, yuh couldn't fact check? What is South Florida College? Allyuh doh play allyuh could mangle names of institutions. It calls into question whether other elements of your work are accurate. Oh gorm man ... The University of South Florida is wha yuh looking for.
Warmonga,
Don't keep you hopes to high on that one. The special advisor will find someway to sabotage his own creation.
But seriously speaking, Pacho is a good coach. All he need is time and the resources to play competitive opponents. We should be playing some South American teams. Play some teams in Europe. Also play some African teams. They can arrange to play them in Europe.
Not only that, but Neaves has already played for the senior team. He came on as a substitute against Iceland.QuoteAmong those given the chance to impress Maturana yesterday were Kevon Neaves, the left-footed former St Anthony's college winger who is at South Florida College in the United States. Neaves has been with the national Under-20 and Under-23 teams and now has the chance to vie for senior selection.
Mr. Prescott, yuh couldn't fact check? What is South Florida College? Allyuh doh play allyuh could mangle names of institutions. It calls into question whether other elements of your work are accurate. Oh gorm man ... The University of South Florida is wha yuh looking for.
I was thinking the same thing as I was reading this article. I live in Orlando and when people here read these writers, they probably think little of our newspapers and journalism. That is one of the reasons people internationally often give us little credit and respect. We sound sometimes like "bush people" and it is embarassing for us patriotic Trinis who always want to talk about our country. This is just one example of the many, many times I see this kind of misinformation. I am aware that we are human and make errors. We all make typos and get something wrong sometimes. However, it is the consistency of misinformation, not mistakes, that bothers me. Just yesterday someone wrote about Justin Fojo from Charleston College. The name of the college is College of Charleston. That is a major difference, not to be taken lightly. Come on people, let's get it right.
QuoteAmong those given the chance to impress Maturana yesterday were Kevon Neaves, the left-footed former St Anthony's college winger who is at South Florida College in the United States. Neaves has been with the national Under-20 and Under-23 teams and now has the chance to vie for senior selection.
Mr. Prescott, yuh couldn't fact check? What is South Florida College? Allyuh doh play allyuh could mangle names of institutions. It calls into question whether other elements of your work are accurate. Oh gorm man ... The University of South Florida is wha yuh looking for.
Typical lazy Trini journalism. They hate to do research and does just guess. The editors turn a blind eye to fact verification, so this will continue until they get some serious editors in charge of those print houses.
Like we guh hadda help Lasana get body guards oui...
He hitting harddd
Lisana just have guts 2 say d truth is just we cyah handle d truth
Lisana just have guts 2 say d truth is just we cyah handle d truth
Yuh doh sleep or wha? ;D
Lisana just have guts 2 say d truth is just we cyah handle d truth
Yuh doh sleep or wha? ;D
u now realise that??
this is a boss article...while some know was been going on is good to see some actually beginning to take a stance
Lisana just have guts 2 say d truth is just we cyah handle d truth
Yuh doh sleep or wha? ;D
u now realise that??
this is a boss article...while some know was been going on is good to see some actually beginning to take a stance
Wha de? Allyuh cross wit soucouyant or wha? Wha allyuh doin up so late? ;D
Trinidad and Tobago's humbling 3-0 defeat to England on June 1 was a startling example, if one was needed, as to the extent of the team's decline since the summer of 2006 at the Germany World Cup.
ah just tryin to keep up with west coast and weary...cyah wait fuh she 10 days to finish so she can sleep like
normal people...sigh
ah just tryin to keep up with west coast and weary...cyah wait fuh she 10 days to finish so she can sleep likeWest Coast and weary?
normal people...sigh
WTF?
And all dis time I tort Wast Coast was mar................
Look..lemme stay outta big people bizness eh.... ;D
QuoteTrinidad and Tobago's humbling 3-0 defeat to England on June 1 was a startling example, if one was needed, as to the extent of the team's decline since the summer of 2006 at the Germany World Cup.
Nonsense. No way should any comparison be made between the finished product that was that WC team, and the experimental product that was thrown together for this friendly...and then use the latter as a gauge as to where we stand relative to the former. If the same WC players played again under the same crucible of pressure then perhaps. This is a superficial assessment not befitting a mind as astute as the author.
de two of allya are de finallists of "Trinidad Idle" or wha:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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QuoteTrinidad and Tobago's humbling 3-0 defeat to England on June 1 was a startling example, if one was needed, as to the extent of the team's decline since the summer of 2006 at the Germany World Cup.
Nonsense. No way should any comparison be made between the finished product that was that WC team, and the experimental product that was thrown together for this friendly...let alone to use the latter as a gauge as to where we stand relative to the former. If the same WC players played again under the same crucible of pressure then perhaps. This is a superficial assessment not befitting a mind as astute as that of the author.
As for the other stuff...who cares? really.
EDIT:
So what that Mats was forced to accommodate Yorke.
So what that Connell was given a sweat when his name wasn't even mentioned in the player pool.
The other stuff about the criteria for selection...regular starts (or even sweat) for club, or youth (ostensibly) are good points. They call to question the very consistency and transparency in selection that some of us fans have been clamoring for.
The very fact that you recognise that it is a superficial assessment should've ticked you off to the fact that criticising it is as useful as trying to sabotage a Benz by taking off the insignia. It might make it slightly less attractive but it don't take nothing away from the vehicule's intrinsic quality to get where it going.QuoteTrinidad and Tobago's humbling 3-0 defeat to England on June 1 was a startling example, if one was needed, as to the extent of the team's decline since the summer of 2006 at the Germany World Cup.
Nonsense. No way should any comparison be made between the finished product that was that WC team, and the experimental product that was thrown together for this friendly...let alone to use the latter as a gauge as to where we stand relative to the former. If the same WC players played again under the same crucible of pressure then perhaps. This is a superficial assessment not befitting a mind as astute as that of the author.
As for the other stuff...who cares? really.More people than you would care to think imo. I'm pretty sure that some of the fellas who can't get a sniff of the national team asking themselves similar questions.
So what that Connell was given a sweat when his name wasn't even mentioned in the player pool.Quite a number of people inquired as to the sudden unexplained changes in between the published lists and the gameday roster. I don't necessarily buy into the Corneal bad mind conspiracy theory, but you have to admit that it goes back to our habitual vaille-qui-vaille way of doing things, that you (and many others) usually criticise as being an obstacle to our maturity as a (sporting) nation.
Lasana keeping up his battle with Jack the ripper through subtle critiscism of the coach.
In reality it's BS, a next journalist could take the same points and turn them around as positives.
I ent see much difference between Maturana and Wimsean power is injured touches
Maturana does try to go tru the center...ball lorse.
Wim used to try the flank...ball lorse...men cyar cross.
Same knock the ball in the back, same lack of bite in the middle, same cluelessness and hit and hope up front. Backs and fwd game with no midfield.
The more things change the more they remain the same.
I will give Maturana all props for gettin rid of Seon Power and Dwayne Jack.
Funny how Telesford look decent vs England and vs JA the commentators and myself find he was running around wild and clueless.
Can anyone translate this article into Spanish. I can get it to Maturana before Corneal does.
Can anyone translate this article into Spanish. I can get it to Maturana before Corneal does.
Guys, lets follow up on this request. Can anyone translate it properly ? send it to Insider now..
Lasana is just a boss !!!!
Wasn't Roberts from Corneal school to.... now the Corneals could boast about how many players they supply to the T&T senior team yearly. They resume will look good. More than any other club in T&T...
And the thing is they dont even like Jack Warner, I know that personally.
I was not jokin freetranslation.com is d best side I used
Can anyone translate this article into Spanish. I can get it to Maturana before Corneal does.spanish translation to the bottom
i get the impression that Lasana is waiting with baited breath for the wheels to fall off..
The Point is the trust between player and coach. Bennie had his players trust vice versa and mats seems not to... it looks like other people is picking his squad for him... I SMELL FISH!! :devil:QuoteTrinidad and Tobago's humbling 3-0 defeat to England on June 1 was a startling example, if one was needed, as to the extent of the team's decline since the summer of 2006 at the Germany World Cup.
Nonsense. No way should any comparison be made between the finished product that was that WC team, and the experimental product that was thrown together for this friendly...let alone to use the latter as a gauge as to where we stand relative to the former. If the same WC players played again under the same crucible of pressure then perhaps. This is a superficial assessment not befitting a mind as astute as that of the author.
As for the other stuff...who cares? really.
EDIT:
So what that Mats was forced to accommodate Yorke.
So what that Connell was given a sweat when his name wasn't even mentioned in the player pool.
The other stuff about the criteria for selection...regular starts (or even sweat) for club, or youth (ostensibly) are good points. They call to question the very consistency and transparency in selection that some of us fans have been clamoring for.
i get the impression that Lasana is waiting with baited breath for the wheels to fall off..
It is a good article, but i must admit that i agree with you!!
I have said it before, Warner shit up Lisana real bad and i think that Lisana has his "motives" for writing these articles.
I am not speaking against good investigative journalism, i am glad he is exposing Jack and all the shit that is happening. But i think he goes overboard too quick.
He jamming Maturana unneccesarily. I think our coach is doing an excellent job. He is focusing on our local players and working with them.
In this article Lisana comparing the performance of this team with one that had 3-4 months of secluded preparation.
He is just waiting for de man to fail.
Get the article to Supa... he wife Puerto Rican.... :)
Bake:
You making some valid points, however, I believe all the other stuff is buffer for the real opinion which is the selection process.
It is not today that the Corneals are doing this. Go back to when Alvin was coaching. If I am correct at the time Anton was the youngest player to ever where T&T senior national team colors (I am sure someone can confirm this). As a player growing up in T&T, I had the opportunity to play for Alcons but my parents would never let me do so b/c of the bias nature in which the Corneals operate. This is not new and I applaud Lasana for calling a spade a spade.
Maybe it is just me, but I like what Maturana is about. The question of the Cornmeal's involvement in the selection of a Trinbago National team will never die, but if that is the case we may have good reason to be worried!!!
Many on this forum have real short memory. Many questioned Beenie Man's selection policy when he first took over the team in discarding the likes of Fitzpatrick, Ince, and Bertille's guys. Similarly folks forget Beenie Man's less than impressive early results. He was evaluating talent at the time. I would like to see Spann, Birchall, Scotland, et al included in the squad noting their experience and age but Matu has enough video tape material on these players playing big teams to judge whether they fit his system. Big coaches do not make a decision to include a player based on how he trains under him with the team, never has been the case. Let's not fool ourselves these guys are not exactly playing at the highest divisions either. Matu does not have any material on the youngsters and for the most part he can work with them more seeing that they are based at home.
Folks must always remember coaches at that level must be prepared to live with their decisions. When you have success with a small country like Trinidad and Tobago on the World Stage, you can write your ticket to go anywhere. Similarly if you don't have success even at a regional level, you are DONE as a big time coach. Coaching Trinidad is like going to Port of Spain General Hospital, if yuh lucky yuh go on to live a decent life if not yuh go to the morgue. No in between.
Matu has pedigree. His record speaks for itself.
A coach picks players that suits his system of player. What is Matu system of play?? What type of player is he looking for?? Me eh know, he has not said so, at least not in English. I am willing to give him a chance just like I did with Beenie Man. If he is not successful for South Africa 2010, at least we would have groomed some fresh young talent to move forward to 2014 (and could again cuss the administration for lacking continuity). If he is successful for 2010, then we would not be the oldest team in the World Cup.
Blessings
Lasana keeping up his battle with Jack the ripper through subtle critiscism of the coach.
In reality it's BS, a next journalist could take the same points and turn them around as positives.
Yes, but the TTFF ent paying Lasana a cent do do Fuentes' work. So until then, I will take critical BS over bamcee licking BS.
Is not even like if Lasana ent say nothing good about Maturana. The day anyone of the TTFF cronies lay an article as balanced as this, I will personally call him and ask him to shake his hand.
Baygo, if yuh study the article, notice Lisana eh criticise the selection of locals, he was just pointing out that the locals being called in more often than not have ties to the Corneals, sometimes even when some of the locals getting called up barely even playing for their clubs (see Kern Cupid, Akeem Adams). And what is confusing here is that this is the very reason they put forward for not selecting Birchall, Sancho, Glenn, etc.
It's just the lack of consistency that is raising a red flag
Right you are!! Further Maple was playing in the NFL 2nd division and had the most players in the squad. :devil:QuoteTrinidad and Tobago's humbling 3-0 defeat to England on June 1 was a startling example, if one was needed, as to the extent of the team's decline since the summer of 2006 at the Germany World Cup.
Nonsense. No way should any comparison be made between the finished product that was that WC team, and the experimental product that was thrown together for this friendly...let alone to use the latter as a gauge as to where we stand relative to the former. If the same WC players played again under the same crucible of pressure then perhaps. This is a superficial assessment not befitting a mind as astute as that of the author.
As for the other stuff...who cares? really.
EDIT:
So what that Mats was forced to accommodate Yorke.
So what that Connell was given a sweat when his name wasn't even mentioned in the player pool.
The other stuff about the criteria for selection...regular starts (or even sweat) for club, or youth (ostensibly) are good points. They call to question the very consistency and transparency in selection that some of us fans have been clamoring for.
Bake:
You making some valid points, however, I believe all the other stuff is buffer for the real opinion which is the selection process.
It is not today that the Corneals are doing this. Go back to when Alvin was coaching. If I am correct at the time Anton was the youngest player to ever where T&T senior national team colors (I am sure someone can confirm this). As a player growing up in T&T, I had the opportunity to play for Alcons but my parents would never let me do so b/c of the bias nature in which the Corneals operate. This is not new and I applaud Lasana for calling a spade a spade.
Baygo, if yuh study the article, notice Lisana eh criticise the selection of locals, he was just pointing out that the locals being called in more often than not have ties to the Corneals, sometimes even when some of the locals getting called up barely even playing for their clubs (see Kern Cupid, Akeem Adams). And what is confusing here is that this is the very reason they put forward for not selecting Birchall, Sancho, Glenn, etc.
It's just the lack of consistency that is raising a red flag
Kev, I agree with you - he is not critizing the locals - he has been pro-local. I am not going to try to speak for the Corneals, but I would like to believe that the coaching staff see something in those players to include them as starters. You and I both know that the fact some players may not be starting on their club teams should not be an indication that they are not worthy of National selection. It's just a matter of Coaching perspective and philosophy.
I agree with you regarding their reason for not calling Birchall and the others, but remember Maturana is seing more of the locals, and he should not be influenced by what we think of Birchall and the other Foreign based.
I guessed you weren't around when St Clair played Yorke vs Northern Ireland 4 years ago. His status then was the same as it is now :devil:Bake:
You making some valid points, however, I believe all the other stuff is buffer for the real opinion which is the selection process.
It is not today that the Corneals are doing this. Go back to when Alvin was coaching. If I am correct at the time Anton was the youngest player to ever where T&T senior national team colors (I am sure someone can confirm this). As a player growing up in T&T, I had the opportunity to play for Alcons but my parents would never let me do so b/c of the bias nature in which the Corneals operate. This is not new and I applaud Lasana for calling a spade a spade.
Yeah Arima...I agree that that is the main thrust of his argument, I just find some of the other stuff trivial and really just serving to detract from that main point.
Part of me also feel that people going overboard in their criticisms of Maturana...little nonsense like him not speaking as much English as they like and having Anton be his translator...or the fact that he played a player whose name wasn't originally in the pool...and all this other nonsense. Any number of these occurrences could reasonably be explained away, but because of the level of distrust we have for the TTFF (and that some have for the Corneals themselves- not saying anything of you, I remember your story well)...that translates into incessant nit-picking and second-guessing of Maturana, despite the fact that we can see improvements in the team under him.
To me that should be the bottom line.
I for one don't believe that Maturana owes an explanation of his selection criteria. As we all know talent is a dime a dozen in T&T, but those of us who have been involved with soccer for some time also know that there are other factors apart from skill that determines success.
As much as I admire Lisana - he does sound like a Monday morning quarterback in this article. Maturana's commitment to local players for this campaign is something I embrace. I am confident that if he is to depend on the foreign based we will not qualify. Let's not forget that we scrape through to the last WC even with our best, and the main reason (in my opinion) was that Beenie did not have quality access to our best.
Maturana has enough time to shape and educate the home based, and get them pass our early qualifiers. As much as we can argue that England did not put pressure on our lads, I saw enough from this new crop to take some of the worry away.
With that said, the TTFF now need to schedule friendlies against quality opponents if this is to work. Friendlies against lowly Concacaf teams will give us the win, but not improve this young inexperienced team.
The argument that the Corneals have an influence in the selection process is without significant merit, simply because we all know that these gentlemen understand talent - the Cornell kid is no Samuel, but he didn't look too bad. Cupid seemed nervous in his start, but I am willing to accept his nervousness - all things considered (he does have a quick turn, a quality necessary to good recovery).
Remember that our pool of quality experienced foreign players have dwindled significantly - Most of the players who featured in the last WC are (in my opinion) too old, and may not be as motivated. To get into to the WC we need highly motivated players.
However, I also would like to see Birchall, Samuel and Spann on the current team. I have no loyalty to our past defenders, especially those without speed. Just my take.
Fellas:
Let we get realistic nah. We cannot, I repeat cannot get to a WC with the majority of our players as local based. I agree with the development factor, but if we take that route it would be 2014 we shooting for. By the way, if the locals that good, they go head overseas real soon and then what?
Fact is, I have no real major problem with Maturana. Realistically, he has been on the job for a few months and I am sure he is still getting acquainted to the sqad. Let we give the man ah lil space, let him do he wok and see what happens. The man has a pedigree, at least the powers that be put him there, I cool with that.
My only concern is the influence of them damn Corneals and them....
I for one don't believe that Maturana owes an explanation of his selection criteria. As we all know talent is a dime a dozen in T&T, but those of us who have been involved with soccer for some time also know that there are other factors apart from skill that determines success.
As much as I admire Lisana - he does sound like a Monday morning quarterback in this article. Maturana's commitment to local players for this campaign is something I embrace. I am confident that if he is to depend on the foreign based we will not qualify. Let's not forget that we scrape through to the last WC even with our best, and the main reason (in my opinion) was that Beenie did not have quality access to our best.
Maturana has enough time to shape and educate the home based, and get them pass our early qualifiers. As much as we can argue that England did not put pressure on our lads, I saw enough from this new crop to take some of the worry away.
With that said, the TTFF now need to schedule friendlies against quality opponents if this is to work. Friendlies against lowly Concacaf teams will give us the win, but not improve this young inexperienced team.
The argument that the Corneals have an influence in the selection process is without significant merit, simply because we all know that these gentlemen understand talent - the Cornell kid is no Samuel, but he didn't look too bad. Cupid seemed nervous in his start, but I am willing to accept his nervousness - all things considered (he does have a quick turn, a quality necessary to good recovery).
Remember that our pool of quality experienced foreign players have dwindled significantly - Most of the players who featured in the last WC are (in my opinion) too old, and may not be as motivated. To get into to the WC we need highly motivated players.
However, I also would like to see Birchall, Samuel and Spann on the current team. I have no loyalty to our past defenders, especially those without speed. Just my take.
How is that going to happen? When top teams see that mess we play on Sunday you think they will answer when we come calling? Men talking about the football we play, what football? We had no true plan as to what we really wanted to do. I think the only thing that all the players may have agreed on was trying to not hit it long from the back. What football? Almost all the ball the forwards recieved were in the mid 1/3 of the field and then nothing after that. How many combinations did we play in the attacking 1/3? How many quality cosses did we create?
I don't know but I guess I see things way different from others. Look at the difference in technique when Yorke pass the ball to when the other guys pass the ball. Look at the ball itself in transition from one player to the other and the manner in which the move. The only positives are the ones we have to look for, which I guess is all we can do.
Say what, if you all happy with that then nothing is wrong
Let's ask ourselves this - why is Kenwayne so good - is it because he is coached by Keane, or that he plays against quality competition every Saturday? Let's not also forget that most T&T pro ballers were signed from their clubs in T&T - we must be doing something right back home.
I for one don't believe that Maturana owes an explanation of his selection criteria. As we all know talent is a dime a dozen in T&T, but those of us who have been involved with soccer for some time also know that there are other factors apart from skill that determines success.
As much as I admire Lisana - he does sound like a Monday morning quarterback in this article. Maturana's commitment to local players for this campaign is something I embrace. I am confident that if he is to depend on the foreign based we will not qualify. Let's not forget that we scrape through to the last WC even with our best, and the main reason (in my opinion) was that Beenie did not have quality access to our best.
Maturana has enough time to shape and educate the home based, and get them pass our early qualifiers. As much as we can argue that England did not put pressure on our lads, I saw enough from this new crop to take some of the worry away.
With that said, the TTFF now need to schedule friendlies against quality opponents if this is to work. Friendlies against lowly Concacaf teams will give us the win, but not improve this young inexperienced team.
The argument that the Corneals have an influence in the selection process is without significant merit, simply because we all know that these gentlemen understand talent - the Cornell kid is no Samuel, but he didn't look too bad. Cupid seemed nervous in his start, but I am willing to accept his nervousness - all things considered (he does have a quick turn, a quality necessary to good recovery).
Remember that our pool of quality experienced foreign players have dwindled significantly - Most of the players who featured in the last WC are (in my opinion) too old, and may not be as motivated. To get into to the WC we need highly motivated players.
However, I also would like to see Birchall, Samuel and Spann on the current team. I have no loyalty to our past defenders, especially those without speed. Just my take.
How is that going to happen? When top teams see that mess we play on Sunday you think they will answer when we come calling? Men talking about the football we play, what football? We had no true plan as to what we really wanted to do. I think the only thing that all the players may have agreed on was trying to not hit it long from the back. What football? Almost all the ball the forwards recieved were in the mid 1/3 of the field and then nothing after that. How many combinations did we play in the attacking 1/3? How many quality cosses did we create?
I don't know but I guess I see things way different from others. Look at the difference in technique when Yorke pass the ball to when the other guys pass the ball. Look at the ball itself in transition from one player to the other and the manner in which the move. The only positives are the ones we have to look for, which I guess is all we can do.
Say what, if you all happy with that then nothing is wrong
Elan, your assessment of the game is correct. However, we should both agree that this is a team of inexperienced youths, and they must be given the opportunity to prove their worth. We also have to agree that as a footballing nation we must move forward and it begins with the unproven. Remember all our stars had suspicous beginnings.
As regards your question - we may not get Italy and France to come play us, but I believe that teams like Norway, Eygpt, Turkey, Ghana, Nigeria even Columbia will come if Jack ask (he does have some use ;D).
Let's ask ourselves this - why is Kenwayne so good - is it because he is coached by Keane, or that he plays against quality competition every Saturday? Let's not also forget that most T&T pro ballers were signed from their clubs in T&T - we must be doing something right back home.
Elan, after reading your posts over the months it's clear that you understand the nuances of this game, but your current pessimism is troubling. Could it be that you expected too much from the Lads?
I ent see much difference between Maturana and Wim
Maturana does try to go tru the center...ball lorse.
Wim used to try the flank...ball lorse...men cyar cross.
Same knock the ball in the back, same lack of bite in the middle, same cluelessness and hit and hope up front. Backs and fwd game with no midfield.
The more things change the more they remain the same.
I will give Maturana all props for gettin rid of Seon Power and Dwayne Jack.
Funny how Telesford look decent vs England and vs JA the commentators and myself find he was running around wild and clueless.
2014 dat way d team of 2006 will b well dead and bury dat is d plan
2014 dat way d team of 2006 will b well dead and bury dat is d plan
I say that long time and men call me a weak heart. Mind you in the l;ast hex I buy my ticket when we was bottom of the group and was miles from qualifying.
It is nothing against Wim, maturana or the players it is just that lightning doesn't strike twice and you could underperform for only so long before you have to pay the consequences.
We make Germany by the skin of we teeth, playing against an Asian team, with Don Leo, and with experienced players like Latas, Yorke, Kelvin, Dog, Stern giving everything. Now we supposed to make it with a U-23 team?
Concacaf gone backwards in the last 4 years. Yuh don't think JA, Guatemale and Panama will see us coming from a mile off this rounds. CR, Mexico or the US get beatable or we going and beat a South American team in a playoff?
If we had built on the WC success we would have had a fighting chance. Even though Jack pull a surprise by getting a coach with Maturana's profile and experience taking us to the WC after the worst two years in our football's history is one magic trick too much.
2014 dat way d team of 2006 will b well dead and bury dat is d plan
I say that long time and men call me a weak heart. Mind you in the l;ast hex I buy my ticket when we was bottom of the group and was miles from qualifying.
It is nothing against Wim, maturana or the players it is just that lightning doesn't strike twice and you could underperform for only so long before you have to pay the consequences.
We make Germany by the skin of we teeth, playing against an Asian team, with Don Leo, and with experienced players like Latas, Yorke, Kelvin, Dog, Stern giving everything. Now we supposed to make it with a U-23 team?
Concacaf gone backwards in the last 4 years. Yuh don't think JA, Guatemale and Panama will see us coming from a mile off this rounds. CR, Mexico or the US get beatable or we going and beat a South American team in a playoff?
If we had built on the WC success we would have had a fighting chance. Even though Jack pull a surprise by getting a coach with Maturana's profile and experience taking us to the WC after the worst two years in our football's history is one magic trick too much.
TTFF cyah even plan a sex in a ho house, dem go have dah kinda foresight?
I agree Maturana have to go!
Nah SUPA if you'd seen the game the gaping holes in the midfield the questionable player selection and the tactical blunders were so evident you would definitely change your mind about Matu's ability as a coach. He got beaten tactically by Bermuda. That is enough to tell me he isn't ready.I agree Maturana have to go!
I truly understand your frustration Fish, but I think Maturana is good enough tuh make us qualify doh. He definitely is not a Beenie, but I think he have de football knowledge to get us there. Look at dis, If you doubt meh, look at de amount of goals meh boi Stern throw away may be other players also, dat said one great thing, dat the team is playing some attacking football and getting some open looks at goal. From what I read de defence didn't do 2 bad either, de second goal was an unfortunate situation for us. I know dat there are coaches out there looking for a job, dat have a better resume and success at the top level dan Maturana. However, we just need to rally around de team people, forget about de like Jack and doh like jack thing, dat will not help de team right now. Leave dem thing for another time, doh matter what we say at dis time, Mr. Warner and Mr. Maturana will still be de bosses on Sunday.Remember Sunday 15th June 2008, dat date and game is gone, I'm upset and disappointed like you all, but let us just pray, support de coach, his staff and de entire team, de fighting down of de staff and de team will not help dem on Sunday at all. Bless. HIGHLY BLESSED.
I agree Maturana have to go!
I truly understand your frustration Fish, but I think Maturana is good enough tuh make us qualify doh. He definitely is not a Beenie, but I think he have de football knowledge to get us there. Look at dis, If you doubt meh, look at de amount of goals meh boi Stern throw away may be other players also, dat said one great thing, dat the team is playing some attacking football and getting some open looks at goal. From what I read de defence didn't do 2 bad either, de second goal was an unfortunate situation for us. I know dat there are coaches out there looking for a job, dat have a better resume and success at the top level dan Maturana. However, we just need to rally around de team people, forget about de like Jack and doh like jack thing, dat will not help de team right now. Leave dem thing for another time, doh matter what we say at dis time, Mr. Warner and Mr. Maturana will still be de bosses on Sunday.Remember Sunday 15th June 2008, dat date and game is gone, I'm upset and disappointed like you all, but let us just pray, support de coach, his staff and de entire team, de fighting down of de staff and de team will not help dem on Sunday at all. Bless. HIGHLY BLESSED.
No. He gotta go - an' fas!Chunks....give de man ah chance nah jed
Great Article...Spot on except the part about K.Daniel... he should have taken off K.Smith instead and put Telesford RB and leave Danny on the LW we would have been more potent as K.Smith is a shithong..as well as A.Farrier.. if you see how many times dem send dat ball tru de left side de right side even tru him.. Makan is a next goat no1 taking on... I watchover that goal and 2 in the England game .. He cannot read danger like how Sancho and Andrews do.. But he is Pacho boy..so as long as the puppet dere.. Makan dere..
Great Article...Spot on except the part about K.Daniel... he should have taken off K.Smith instead and put Telesford RB and leave Danny on the LW we would have been more potent as K.Smith is a shithong..as well as A.Farrier.. if you see how many times dem send dat ball tru de left side de right side even tru him.. Makan is a next goat no1 taking on... I watchover that goal and 2 in the England game .. He cannot read danger like how Sancho and Andrews do.. But he is Pacho boy..so as long as the puppet dere.. Makan dere..
No blame for the player who squandered chance upon chance in front of goal?
We passing de buck but not de peso... hmmmn.
Great Article...Spot on except the part about K.Daniel... he should have taken off K.Smith instead and put Telesford RB and leave Danny on the LW we would have been more potent as K.Smith is a shithong..as well as A.Farrier.. if you see how many times dem send dat ball tru de left side de right side even tru him.. Makan is a next goat no1 taking on... I watchover that goal and 2 in the England game .. He cannot read danger like how Sancho and Andrews do.. But he is Pacho boy..so as long as the puppet dere.. Makan dere..
No blame for the player who squandered chance upon chance in front of goal?
We passing de buck but not de peso... hmmmn.
Yes Stern had a bad day..yet he scored.. But 9/10 times he would have taken 1 of the 2 clear cut chances.. but Everyone had a bad day at the office...it was just one of those days
Also.. Stern had lets say 4 good chances..scored 1.. Scotty 1 chance..0 goals...
What if they only get into position by chance? Or by the inferiority of the other team?Great Article...Spot on except the part about K.Daniel... he should have taken off K.Smith instead and put Telesford RB and leave Danny on the LW we would have been more potent as K.Smith is a shithong..as well as A.Farrier.. if you see how many times dem send dat ball tru de left side de right side even tru him.. Makan is a next goat no1 taking on... I watchover that goal and 2 in the England game .. He cannot read danger like how Sancho and Andrews do.. But he is Pacho boy..so as long as the puppet dere.. Makan dere..
No blame for the player who squandered chance upon chance in front of goal?
We passing de buck but not de peso... hmmmn.
Yes Stern had a bad day..yet he scored.. But 9/10 times he would have taken 1 of the 2 clear cut chances.. but Everyone had a bad day at the office...it was just one of those days
Also.. Stern had lets say 4 good chances..scored 1.. Scotty 1 chance..0 goals...
Indeed...everyone had a bad day at the office, and if Stern had scored two we hardly woulda be calling for Maturana head. I say that to remind folks to keep things in perspective... no matter what the tactic or what the strategy it comes down to the players on the field. If you don't put them in position to make plays then yes, you deserve blame. If you put them in position to make plays and they fail then that is hardly your fault (as coach) now is it?
What if they only get into position by chance? Or by the inferiority of the other team?
I think team morale is low. And I think it's directly tied to the (non-)selection process. Getting rid of Maturana won't solve it, but he have to take some grief for cooperating with it.
What if they only get into position by chance? Or by the inferiority of the other team?
Breds I really eh up fuh de hypotheticals dis morning nuh... my point is that everyone bawling fire Pacho as though that will solve anything. Yuh could bring in Mourinho or Big Phil or any other big name coach tomorrow. Bottom line is if de foreign-based pro's too big to kick ball with the local-based, or man is too much ah starboy tuh track back and fight fuh ball... if defenders cyah defend and forwards spooning chances over de bar... if all de free kick ending up by de fat man in de fourth row bleachers... den it really ent matter who it have on de sidelines twisting in Jack wind.
There's more than enough blame to be passed around and shared by all...from administration to technical staff to players. Our problems go way beyond the coaching.
I think team morale is low. And I think it's directly tied to the (non-)selection process. Getting rid of Maturana won't solve it, but he have to take some grief for cooperating with it.
What if they only get into position by chance? Or by the inferiority of the other team?
Breds I really eh up fuh de hypotheticals dis morning nuh... my point is that everyone bawling fire Pacho as though that will solve anything. Yuh could bring in Mourinho or Big Phil or any other big name coach tomorrow. Bottom line is if de foreign-based pro's too big to kick ball with the local-based, or man is too much ah starboy tuh track back and fight fuh ball... if defenders cyah defend and forwards spooning chances over de bar... if all de free kick ending up by de fat man in de fourth row bleachers... den it really ent matter who it have on de sidelines twisting in Jack wind.
There's more than enough blame to be passed around and shared by all...from administration to technical staff to players. Our problems go way beyond the coaching.
The real problem was the decision to play a formation of 3-5-2. A system our team will clearly not be comfortable with. Against Jamaica we used 4-4-2, against England, we used 4-4-2. So was it that the technical Team, led by the non English speaking coach.
MEP d man say he c tapes so me eh buyin dat he is part of d problem he needs some testicular fortitude or go back 2 pullin teeth
D man only loose 2 games and 1 was a fete match he should stayHe could stay in trinidad but not coaching we team if that's the kinda decisions he decide to make taking out a mid-fielder and putting in a defender when you a goal down... bull that's real bull I tell u!
Lp eh have nutten to do with bringing in players.....nutten
he eh no coach
Lp eh have nutten to do with bringing in players.....nutten
he eh no coach
I hope this wasn't directed to my comments.
By "coaching committee" I am referring to Anton (and by extension Alvin) and Maturana exclusively.
No. He gotta go - an' fas!When I said he should go after the England match, people blow me out. Allyuh take that in allyuh garrrr.... :rotfl:
No. He gotta go - an' fas!
Nah SUPA if you'd seen the game the gaping holes in the midfield the questionable player selection and the tactical blunders were so evident you would definitely change your mind about Matu's ability as a coach. He got beaten tactically by Bermuda. That is enough to tell me he isn't ready.I agree Maturana have to go!
I truly understand your frustration Fish, but I think Maturana is good enough tuh make us qualify doh. He definitely is not a Beenie, but I think he have de football knowledge to get us there. Look at dis, If you doubt meh, look at de amount of goals meh boi Stern throw away may be other players also, dat said one great thing, dat the team is playing some attacking football and getting some open looks at goal. From what I read de defence didn't do 2 bad either, de second goal was an unfortunate situation for us. I know dat there are coaches out there looking for a job, dat have a better resume and success at the top level dan Maturana. However, we just need to rally around de team people, forget about de like Jack and doh like jack thing, dat will not help de team right now. Leave dem thing for another time, doh matter what we say at dis time, Mr. Warner and Mr. Maturana will still be de bosses on Sunday.Remember Sunday 15th June 2008, dat date and game is gone, I'm upset and disappointed like you all, but let us just pray, support de coach, his staff and de entire team, de fighting down of de staff and de team will not help dem on Sunday at all. Bless. HIGHLY BLESSED.
I agree Maturana have to go!
I truly understand your frustration Fish, but I think Maturana is good enough tuh make us qualify doh. He definitely is not a Beenie, but I think he have de football knowledge to get us there. Look at dis, If you doubt meh, look at de amount of goals meh boi Stern throw away may be other players also, dat said one great thing, dat the team is playing some attacking football and getting some open looks at goal. From what I read de defence didn't do 2 bad either, de second goal was an unfortunate situation for us. I know dat there are coaches out there looking for a job, dat have a better resume and success at the top level dan Maturana. However, we just need to rally around de team people, forget about de like Jack and doh like jack thing, dat will not help de team right now. Leave dem thing for another time, doh matter what we say at dis time, Mr. Warner and Mr. Maturana will still be de bosses on Sunday.Remember Sunday 15th June 2008, dat date and game is gone, I'm upset and disappointed like you all, but let us just pray, support de coach, his staff and de entire team, de fighting down of de staff and de team will not help dem on Sunday at all. Bless. HIGHLY BLESSED.
NAH!!..
Leh Pacho go he way,and let Jack Haul he mudda asss
I agree Maturana have to go!
I truly understand your frustration Fish, but I think Maturana is good enough tuh make us qualify doh. He definitely is not a Beenie, but I think he have de football knowledge to get us there. Look at dis, If you doubt meh, look at de amount of goals meh boi Stern throw away may be other players also, dat said one great thing, dat the team is playing some attacking football and getting some open looks at goal. From what I read de defence didn't do 2 bad either, de second goal was an unfortunate situation for us. I know dat there are coaches out there looking for a job, dat have a better resume and success at the top level dan Maturana. However, we just need to rally around de team people, forget about de like Jack and doh like jack thing, dat will not help de team right now. Leave dem thing for another time, doh matter what we say at dis time, Mr. Warner and Mr. Maturana will still be de bosses on Sunday.Remember Sunday 15th June 2008, dat date and game is gone, I'm upset and disappointed like you all, but let us just pray, support de coach, his staff and de entire team, de fighting down of de staff and de team will not help dem on Sunday at all. Bless. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Imagine we had coaches who get fired for losing to Grenada and coacheswho get fired for ot winning Gold cup when we were long shots. Look at this saying is HE fault and he allwed tuh stay.. Wheeey sar..the wonderful world of Austin "Jack" Warner
I guess high expectations can lead to great disappointment and thus ... anything thereafter ! What would be the case if your son's newly appointed primary school teacher was a disappointment in a short term evaluation ? From some of the comments here ......I guess we would call for the teacher's head ...leaving the class teacherless until we could find a replacement. ! I wonder if most people believe that coaches are breaking down the door to coach us because we have such a wonderfully talented bunch and are in an easy qualifying group ?
Let me put things in perspective ... We are in the same qualifying group as Powerhouses USA, Mexico and to a lesser extent Costa Rica, El Salvador, Jamaica and Honduras.
Our talent pool has not attracted much attention with the majority of our " Professionals " getting opportunities at levels below the top in their respective foreign countries. Folks we eh have no Latapy or Dwight Yorke to call on !!! I see men calling for Beenie .... unless he could gears up and play like Ronaldo ..he kyah help dis bunch ....and why would he want to when tings going OK in Poland ? ...ah mean he doing just what he has always done in major competition .... he never win ah game with any team he coach and since his team has modest expectations, he reach by qualifying for Euro already .... just like he did for de soca warriors when our expectations were just to get there ... and we had Hislop, latapy , Yorke and a fit Carlos.
sEEMS LIKE WE GO BLAME mATURANA IF DE SUN DOH SHINE JUST NOW !
Dese fellas like babies in dis competition ...some of them are now making their debuts ...in ah WC competition... if we change de coach now I feel it will have a negative influence on de players ..... and before the next game ???? all yuh kyah be serious ?
Folks you can take a horse to water but you kyah make him drink ..... I did not see the game so I cant comment but from reports on the facts ...we muffed quite a lot of opportunities to kill off the game. Allyuh forget how dis team was doing before Maturana came here ?
Sorry I kyah support de call for de coach's head ...not now anyway ...we win together and we lose together at this point ..... and if we lose so be it ...it have more going on outside the field of play to distract many a top footballer anyway and it is not all the coach's fault.
Leave the man alone ....... yuh kyah give ah man ah job and as soon as he starts yuh panicking and want to give the wuk to someone else !!!
J Jai John...... a man who has been around for many such campaigns .
Lp eh have nutten to do with bringing in players.....nutten
he eh no coach
I hope this wasn't directed to my comments.
By "coaching committee" I am referring to Anton (and by extension Alvin) and Maturana exclusively.
NAH IT WAS DIRECTED AT MEP with he shit talk
Ok maturna time to go when you reach trinidad pack you bags and head on on to columbia
Ok maturna time to go when you reach trinidad pack you bags and head on on to columbia
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Ok maturna time to go when you reach trinidad pack you bags and head on on to columbia
columbia? u hadda mean colombia cause i ent have no space in my house for pacho...ah sorry
Is not easy to evaluate Pancho when he doh have de best cards to play. The language barrier cyah be helpful either.
boy you so far into denial yuh torkin swahili, bantu and maasai...
AB
It obvious 2 anybody hwo have a lil sense and eh a Wim hater that d man is doin JW biddin. You make a big point of lookin at tapes and u find Whitley aloneeeeeeeeeee.
You hear 6 mths and eh learn d language just tink Fabello
His decision 2 play 3 5 2 in d 1st WCQ alone should b a good enough reason 2 sent him packin back 2 he dental practice.
When we 1 down he sub d midfielder and bring on a defender but then again I eh know football.
It obviously have some division on dat team I hear he say bout man attidute problem but I eh hear nutten bout fixin it except droppin Ince because we all know bout he attitude.
But then again me eh know football
Somebody please, help mih nah... wasn't it de same 3-5-2 system we play and shut out Bermuda yesterday? So was it de system or was it de players last week Sunday that we need to blame? (yeah, yeah...blame de coach fuh havind de 'wrong' players on de field)
Also... does it matter if yuh hear 6 months... or if yuh one good ezz only allow yuh tuh hear 3?
Finally... who is Fabello ???
Grazie
Somebody please, help mih nah... wasn't it de same 3-5-2 system we play and shut out Bermuda yesterday? So was it de system or was it de players last week Sunday that we need to blame? (yeah, yeah...blame de coach fuh havind de 'wrong' players on de field)
Also... does it matter if yuh hear 6 months... or if yuh one good ezz only allow yuh tuh hear 3?
Finally... who is Fabello ???
Grazie
I really thought it was 4-4-2
because they say telesford went to right back and M. Edwards was left back... which leaves Hislop and Lawrence in the centre.... unless one of dem was playing DM ???
Somebody please, help mih nah... wasn't it de same 3-5-2 system we play and shut out Bermuda yesterday? So was it de system or was it de players last week Sunday that we need to blame? (yeah, yeah...blame de coach fuh havind de 'wrong' players on de field)
Also... does it matter if yuh hear 6 months... or if yuh one good ezz only allow yuh tuh hear 3?
Finally... who is Fabello ???
Grazie
I really thought it was 4-4-2
because they say telesford went to right back and M. Edwards was left back... which leaves Hislop and Lawrence in the centre.... unless one of dem was playing DM ???
I am 99% sure it was a 4-4-2... Alvin was saying it was.. even tho patriot say 3-5-2 but I think he get that wrong... It was a 4-4-2 with Telesford and M.Edwards playing RB and LB.. and Carlos and K.Daniel playing RW and LW
Somebody please, help mih nah... wasn't it de same 3-5-2 system we play and shut out Bermuda yesterday? So was it de system or was it de players last week Sunday that we need to blame? (yeah, yeah...blame de coach fuh havind de 'wrong' players on de field)
Also... does it matter if yuh hear 6 months... or if yuh one good ezz only allow yuh tuh hear 3?
Finally... who is Fabello ???
Grazie
Somebody please, help mih nah... wasn't it de same 3-5-2 system we play and shut out Bermuda yesterday? So was it de system or was it de players last week Sunday that we need to blame? (yeah, yeah...blame de coach fuh havind de 'wrong' players on de field)
Also... does it matter if yuh hear 6 months... or if yuh one good ezz only allow yuh tuh hear 3?
Finally... who is Fabello ???
Grazie
leo was hear 1 mth and we was playing good
we ketch we arse to beat them a lorse to Bermuda is unacceptable we play england etc , and games against Grenada Barbados enslaved Guyana ... let me see if he would call back avery john , sancho and birchall...
Somebody please, help mih nah... wasn't it de same 3-5-2 system we play and shut out Bermuda yesterday? So was it de system or was it de players last week Sunday that we need to blame? (yeah, yeah...blame de coach fuh havind de 'wrong' players on de field)
Also... does it matter if yuh hear 6 months... or if yuh one good ezz only allow yuh tuh hear 3?
Finally... who is Fabello ???
Grazie
leo was hear 1 mth and we was playing good
we ketch we arse to beat them a lorse to Bermuda is unacceptable we play england etc , and games against Grenada Barbados enslaved Guyana ... let me see if he would call back avery john , sancho and birchall...
nigel daniel is a better left back than avery john, avery has no ball control and gives away possession too much, plus hes much older than nigel.
God is de BOSS....
Stop calling for coach to come and go. We all know the problem and who / whom needs to GO. Until then T&T Football will always and I say always SUFFER. Blaming coach after coach is only white washing the true issue.
From watching all the games available to me down here, I am not happy with Maturana.
You seeing glaring deficiencies and you not seeing attempts to solve them.
I find we hitting and hoping, no constructive attacking play.
Nothing on corners or free kicks
Nothing in terms of midfield
Nothing in the way of defending
Lack of shape
Poor player selection ( Blacklist or no )
Poor subs
All against POOR OPPOSITION...We not ready.
We have improved marginally since the Guadelope game...if only understanding between local and foreign based.
Wim had us playing a better, more effective brand of ball.
A good coach does wonders....Alyuh foget Beenie away at Mexico and USA away.
Look at Simoes when he was here in a month we beat Honduras away, look decent vs Ja in the oval and play good across in China.
I would go so far as to say look at Fevrier record against the African teams we played...look at the time period..and the style in which we did it. ( He truly got a raw deal...he did an excellent job while in charge)
Patcho and he trainers shakey for me...even they warm up and training ent looking right.
I think 8 weeks is enough time to get a new man and a proper 6 week camp with about 4 friendly games to be able to pull of a result against Cuba and Guatemala.
But if he does stay...bringing back the blacklisted players...namely Cyd, Birchall and Avery would do wonders for this side.
TI
so wait nah, where nigel daniel playing now? u comparing a man who does only look good and only ever play in the pro league with a player who has played in much better leagues.
now avery is on the blacklist so nigel technically has a better chance to make the squad and he still cant, imagine maturana who obviously believe in giving evrybody ah chance still eh vibes nigel. Others such as akeem adams (high school student), akile edwards, ancil farrier, michael edwards, even cupid play left back yesterday, all dem men get a chance so what happen to nigel daniel.
u talking about avery's age and then on other post you will talk about how we need hardest, cyd gray, dennis lawrence,yorke, etc..all dem men is the same age, so if you want to use the age argument also use the not playing argument to be consistent and logical when yuh discussing hardest importance to the team.[/b]
leo was hear 1 mth and we was playing good
we ketch we arse to beat them a lorse to Bermuda is unacceptable we play england etc , and games against Grenada Barbados enslaved Guyana ... let me see if he would call back avery john , sancho and birchall...Quote
nigel daniel is a better left back than avery john, avery has no ball control and gives away possession too much, plus hes much older than nigel.
God is de BOSS....Quote
Well d difference TI is he did not have 2 deal wit d JWFF
From watching all the games available to me down here, I am not happy with Maturana....Touches since you said currently bringing back Cyd will do wonders to this team...am assunming he is atleast training with a club...please tell us what is Cyd staus right now?...(am sure am not the only one here who really want to know)
You seeing glaring deficiencies and you not seeing attempts to solve them.
I find we hitting and hoping, no constructive attacking play.
Nothing on corners or free kicks
Nothing in terms of midfield
Nothing in the way of defending
Lack of shape
Poor player selection ( Blacklist or no )
Poor subs
All against POOR OPPOSITION...We not ready.
We have improved marginally since the Guadelope game...if only understanding between local and foreign based.
Wim had us playing a better, more effective brand of ball.
A good coach does wonders....Alyuh foget Beenie away at Mexico and USA away.
Look at Simoes when he was here in a month we beat Honduras away, look decent vs Ja in the oval and play good across in China.
I would go so far as to say look at Fevrier record against the African teams we played...look at the time period..and the style in which we did it. ( He truly got a raw deal...he did an excellent job while in charge)
Patcho and he trainers shakey for me...even they warm up and training ent looking right.
I think 8 weeks is enough time to get a new man and a proper 6 week camp with about 4 friendly games to be able to pull of a result against Cuba and Guatemala.
But if he does stay...bringing back the blacklisted players...namely Cyd, Birchall and Avery would do wonders for this side.
TI
so wait nah, where nigel daniel playing now? u comparing a man who does only look good and only ever play in the pro league with a player who has played in much better leagues.
now avery is on the blacklist so nigel technically has a better chance to make the squad and he still cant, imagine maturana who obviously believe in giving evrybody ah chance still eh vibes nigel. Others such as akeem adams (high school student), akile edwards, ancil farrier, michael edwards, even cupid play left back yesterday, all dem men get a chance so what happen to nigel daniel.
u talking about avery's age and then on other post you will talk about how we need hardest, cyd gray, dennis lawrence,yorke, etc..all dem men is the same age, so if you want to use the age argument also use the not playing argument to be consistent and logical when yuh discussing hardest importance to the team.[/b]
leo was hear 1 mth and we was playing good
we ketch we arse to beat them a lorse to Bermuda is unacceptable we play england etc , and games against Grenada Barbados enslaved Guyana ... let me see if he would call back avery john , sancho and birchall...Quote
nigel daniel is a better left back than avery john, avery has no ball control and gives away possession too much, plus hes much older than nigel.
God is de BOSS....Quote
since nigel get that injury the man hasnt been the same, he has more control than avery will ever have and passing ability, i watch avery in the wc live and everytime he play, i also watch him in the US, just bc the man playing US ball doh mean shit, nigel is a better left back, just bc the man local doh mean he not good, i not picking the team sah, its corneal, so ask him, snce nigel injury i havent heard him do anything locally, yorke still playing in the epl at the highest level and can hold down the holding mid like in the wc, we dont have a player to fill lawrence role at the moment, no one plays centre back as well as he does at the moment, as for hardest, hes still younger than avery and it have no one in trinidad other than guerra to play his role, thats why hes on the list for the qualifying but the only reason he not playing is bc hes recovering from another injury.
God is de BOSS....
TI
so wait nah, where nigel daniel playing now? u comparing a man who does only look good and only ever play in the pro league with a player who has played in much better leagues.
now avery is on the blacklist so nigel technically has a better chance to make the squad and he still cant, imagine maturana who obviously believe in giving evrybody ah chance still eh vibes nigel. Others such as akeem adams (high school student), akile edwards, ancil farrier, michael edwards, even cupid play left back yesterday, all dem men get a chance so what happen to nigel daniel.
u talking about avery's age and then on other post you will talk about how we need hardest, cyd gray, dennis lawrence,yorke, etc..all dem men is the same age, so if you want to use the age argument also use the not playing argument to be consistent and logical when yuh discussing hardest importance to the team.[/b]
leo was hear 1 mth and we was playing good
we ketch we arse to beat them a lorse to Bermuda is unacceptable we play england etc , and games against Grenada Barbados enslaved Guyana ... let me see if he would call back avery john , sancho and birchall...Quote
nigel daniel is a better left back than avery john, avery has no ball control and gives away possession too much, plus hes much older than nigel.
God is de BOSS....Quote
since nigel get that injury the man hasnt been the same, he has more control than avery will ever have and passing ability, i watch avery in the wc live and everytime he play, i also watch him in the US, just bc the man playing US ball doh mean shit, nigel is a better left back, just bc the man local doh mean he not good, i not picking the team sah, its corneal, so ask him, snce nigel injury i havent heard him do anything locally, yorke still playing in the epl at the highest level and can hold down the holding mid like in the wc, we dont have a player to fill lawrence role at the moment, no one plays centre back as well as he does at the moment, as for hardest, hes still younger than avery and it have no one in trinidad other than guerra to play his role, thats why hes on the list for the qualifying but the only reason he not playing is bc hes recovering from another injury.
God is de BOSS....
i eh saying because avery playing in th US he is better but what this recent debacle against bermuda prove is the locals are not ready by any stretch of the imagination.
just because a man play well against ne stars and petrotrin doh mean he ready for international football, i agree that nigel daniel is a better passer than avery but that is about it when it comes to having an advantage, nigel is a poor tackler, his positional play is poor, likes to overlap but takes his time in getting back on defence, weak in the air. so come with a better argument than that.
right now we have few locals who capable of playing international football such as whitley and i trying to come up with some other names.
We callin 4 he 2 go because d Dutch men told JW where 2 go and he went. If u take a wuk and u cyah do all dat is necessary go pack and pull teeth. You look at tapes and u recall Whitley alone dat alone tells me u either dotish or eh pickin d team dat way take a connectin flight from Miami Int we go ship yuh stuff
Stop calling for coach to come and go. We all know the problem and who / whom needs to GO. Until then T&T Football will always and I say always SUFFER. Blaming coach after coach is only white washing the true issue.
1) So what if he beat argentina that was long long time ago ... but i care wha going on now ... i would be saying the same thing if was any other coach ...From watching all the games available to me down here, I am not happy with Maturana.
You seeing glaring deficiencies and you not seeing attempts to solve them.
I find we hitting and hoping, no constructive attacking play.
Nothing on corners or free kicks
Nothing in terms of midfield
Nothing in the way of defending
Lack of shape
Poor player selection ( Blacklist or no )
Poor subs
All against POOR OPPOSITION...We not ready.
We have improved marginally since the Guadelope game...if only understanding between local and foreign based.
Wim had us playing a better, more effective brand of ball.
A good coach does wonders....Alyuh foget Beenie away at Mexico and USA away.
Look at Simoes when he was here in a month we beat Honduras away, look decent vs Ja in the oval and play good across in China.
I would go so far as to say look at Fevrier record against the African teams we played...look at the time period..and the style in which we did it. ( He truly got a raw deal...he did an excellent job while in charge)
Patcho and he trainers shakey for me...even they warm up and training ent looking right.
I think 8 weeks is enough time to get a new man and a proper 6 week camp with about 4 friendly games to be able to pull of a result against Cuba and Guatemala.
But if he does stay...bringing back the blacklisted players...namely Cyd, Birchall and Avery would do wonders for this side.
mats is a 2 time wc coach and has won against teams like argentina, how all of a sudden he is a shithound? bc our strikers couldnt finish bc anton controlling in the shadows, come on nah man, you really think wim was better? we putting the ball on the ground and we cut down on the long ball garbage, all we need is a solid backline, cohesive back and our mid has to re-adjusted because whitley is a holding mid, we finally put to rest that scotland not cutting it at intl level and roberts and stern should start bc jones injured, i supporting maturana, bc ihe grooming a team for the future in the process, something beenie didnt do at all
God is de BOSS....
TI,
you are the most one dimensional person I have seen on this site, you are very close minded and always believe you are 100% correct about team selection.
you ever play any serious football, i not talking about cleaning hardest tugs and jockstrap...i talking about at a minimum inetrcol, probably league football or US college ball, some kinda ball wheer u will understand the difference between watching the game on tv, watching it live in the stadium, posting on this website and actually playing on the field.
avery is irrational, i guess u referring to the red card against sweden..men argue that ah million times on this site so i not going to discuss that again, my only comment on that is that tackle save us from ah serious buss net and 2 the yellow cards he got only 1 was a good call but on any given day the call could go either way.
i eh hating on nigel daniel, as a matter of fact nigel is mih bredren but from playing with and against him, as a forward i rather line up against him than avery because with nigel his mind doh be on the game for all 90 minutes while avery is ah force from beginning to end, he keeps u "honest" on the field.
TI,
you are the most one dimensional person I have seen on this site, you are very close minded and always believe you are 100% correct about team selection.
you ever play any serious football, i not talking about cleaning hardest tugs and jockstrap...i talking about at a minimum inetrcol, probably league football or US college ball, some kinda ball wheer u will understand the difference between watching the game on tv, watching it live in the stadium, posting on this website and actually playing on the field.
avery is irrational, i guess u referring to the red card against sweden..men argue that ah million times on this site so i not going to discuss that again, my only comment on that is that tackle save us from ah serious buss net and 2 the yellow cards he got only 1 was a good call but on any given day the call could go either way.
i eh hating on nigel daniel, as a matter of fact nigel is mih bredren but from playing with and against him, as a forward i rather line up against him than avery because with nigel his mind doh be on the game for all 90 minutes while avery is ah force from beginning to end, he keeps u "honest" on the field.
one dimensional is a joke, maybe yourself, i played high school football, toronto is 8 months of winter and i hated indoor football, so i resorted to playing against my cosuinswho played for holland/ajax and feyronord in europe and tt in the summers against my cousins who played intercol back home, but otherwise i havent played us college ball; so in terms of do i know football, yes i do, my family has a long history in it, so i know alot more than others who pretend to and i do play whenever i get the chance.
offense is your best defense and i rather see nigel lhandle the ball rather than avery.
God is de BOSS....
1) So what if he beat argentina that was long long time ago ... but i care wha going on now ... i would be saying the same thing if was any other coach ...From watching all the games available to me down here, I am not happy with Maturana.
You seeing glaring deficiencies and you not seeing attempts to solve them.
I find we hitting and hoping, no constructive attacking play.
Nothing on corners or free kicks
Nothing in terms of midfield
Nothing in the way of defending
Lack of shape
Poor player selection ( Blacklist or no )
Poor subs
All against POOR OPPOSITION...We not ready.
We have improved marginally since the Guadelope game...if only understanding between local and foreign based.
Wim had us playing a better, more effective brand of ball.
A good coach does wonders....Alyuh foget Beenie away at Mexico and USA away.
Look at Simoes when he was here in a month we beat Honduras away, look decent vs Ja in the oval and play good across in China.
I would go so far as to say look at Fevrier record against the African teams we played...look at the time period..and the style in which we did it. ( He truly got a raw deal...he did an excellent job while in charge)
Patcho and he trainers shakey for me...even they warm up and training ent looking right.
I think 8 weeks is enough time to get a new man and a proper 6 week camp with about 4 friendly games to be able to pull of a result against Cuba and Guatemala.
But if he does stay...bringing back the blacklisted players...namely Cyd, Birchall and Avery would do wonders for this side.
mats is a 2 time wc coach and has won against teams like argentina, how all of a sudden he is a shithound? bc our strikers couldnt finish bc anton controlling in the shadows, come on nah man, you really think wim was better? we putting the ball on the ground and we cut down on the long ball garbage, all we need is a solid backline, cohesive back and our mid has to re-adjusted because whitley is a holding mid, we finally put to rest that scotland not cutting it at intl level and roberts and stern should start bc jones injured, i supporting maturana, bc ihe grooming a team for the future in the process, something beenie didnt do at all
God is de BOSS....
2)yuh say anton controling and we struggling against bermuda well now pacho should really go !!!
3) Well is best we write off 2010 since he grooming fuh the future ... national team eh really to groom that fuh the under 20 under 17 teams etc .... .. and yuh gone with leo again now .... but look at it this way 1 mth in we did not struggle to beat panama under leo
TI,
you are the most one dimensional person I have seen on this site, you are very close minded and always believe you are 100% correct about team selection.
you ever play any serious football, i not talking about cleaning hardest tugs and jockstrap...i talking about at a minimum inetrcol, probably league football or US college ball, some kinda ball wheer u will understand the difference between watching the game on tv, watching it live in the stadium, posting on this website and actually playing on the field.
avery is irrational, i guess u referring to the red card against sweden..men argue that ah million times on this site so i not going to discuss that again, my only comment on that is that tackle save us from ah serious buss net and 2 the yellow cards he got only 1 was a good call but on any given day the call could go either way.
i eh hating on nigel daniel, as a matter of fact nigel is mih bredren but from playing with and against him, as a forward i rather line up against him than avery because with nigel his mind doh be on the game for all 90 minutes while avery is ah force from beginning to end, he keeps u "honest" on the field.
one dimensional is a joke, maybe yourself, i played high school football, toronto is 8 months of winter and i hated indoor football, so i resorted to playing against my cosuinswho played for holland/ajax and feyronord in europe and tt in the summers against my cousins who played intercol back home, but otherwise i havent played us college ball; so in terms of do i know football, yes i do, my family has a long history in it, so i know alot more than others who pretend to and i do play whenever i get the chance.
offense is your best defense and i rather see nigel lhandle the ball rather than avery.
God is de BOSS....
TI,
you are the most one dimensional person I have seen on this site, you are very close minded and always believe you are 100% correct about team selection.
you ever play any serious football, i not talking about cleaning hardest tugs and jockstrap...i talking about at a minimum inetrcol, probably league football or US college ball, some kinda ball wheer u will understand the difference between watching the game on tv, watching it live in the stadium, posting on this website and actually playing on the field.
avery is irrational, i guess u referring to the red card against sweden..men argue that ah million times on this site so i not going to discuss that again, my only comment on that is that tackle save us from ah serious buss net and 2 the yellow cards he got only 1 was a good call but on any given day the call could go either way.
i eh hating on nigel daniel, as a matter of fact nigel is mih bredren but from playing with and against him, as a forward i rather line up against him than avery because with nigel his mind doh be on the game for all 90 minutes while avery is ah force from beginning to end, he keeps u "honest" on the field.
one dimensional is a joke, maybe yourself, i played high school football, toronto is 8 months of winter and i hated indoor football, so i resorted to playing against my cosuinswho played for holland/ajax and feyronord in europe and tt in the summers against my cousins who played intercol back home, but otherwise i havent played us college ball; so in terms of do i know football, yes i do, my family has a long history in it, so i know alot more than others who pretend to and i do play whenever i get the chance.
offense is your best defense and i rather see nigel lhandle the ball rather than avery.
God is de BOSS....
yuh play football against yuh pumpkin vine cousin who play for "ajax' so dat make yuh ah expert on football, now allyuh doh get mih wrong i not saying that u have to play serious football to know football because some of the ebst coaches in the world never play at the highest level but keep in mind it easy for non players to be an armchair coach, what you from the sidelines is a lot different from on the field itself.
so back to Ti, yuh is ah boss cause u play small goal against yuh cousins, if i mention names of men i play small goal with them u will have to crown me FIFA player of the Year, anyway fire maturana and hire TI so he could select hardest, guerra and nigel, 2010 fuh sure..wait ah minute, TI say we planning for the future not like Leo and the quick fix, i always thought leo job and maturana was the same, qualify for the world cup, i didnt know dem men was hired for ah developmental program, my bad, carry on.
Sando Prince
I think Cyd is healed..I have seen him around...I do not know what is his playing status (club etc)...But if Hyland doesnt have a club and he training with the national team and gettin fit. I dont see why Cyd cant do the same.
Cyd has matured and improved 1000% from butting the ball 2 inches off the grass and all the other folly he used to engage in. He is far removed from being Wanchope and Gomez son.
He has been thru the wars, played against the best in Concacaf and has experience.
However experience aside he has this over all comers in the wingback position.
1) Size
2) Height
3) Speed...real important factor.
4) Tackling ability...yet to see any of the new defenders hit a man a good solid Jam.
5) Belley and fight...Things I ent see these new fellas have.
Isnt that what you want in a defender?
Even if not Cyd, Avery could come in...Tallest have too much work to do in the back. One less worry will help us out indeed. I find Hislop play too much game to still be uncomfortable in the back. Since Wim he dey and ent stamp his authority.
Also too one good defensive mid will help out the back 4/3 immensely. Whitley Cyar do it alone.
TI,
you are the most one dimensional person I have seen on this site, you are very close minded and always believe you are 100% correct about team selection.
you ever play any serious football, i not talking about cleaning hardest tugs and jockstrap...i talking about at a minimum inetrcol, probably league football or US college ball, some kinda ball wheer u will understand the difference between watching the game on tv, watching it live in the stadium, posting on this website and actually playing on the field.
avery is irrational, i guess u referring to the red card against sweden..men argue that ah million times on this site so i not going to discuss that again, my only comment on that is that tackle save us from ah serious buss net and 2 the yellow cards he got only 1 was a good call but on any given day the call could go either way.
i eh hating on nigel daniel, as a matter of fact nigel is mih bredren but from playing with and against him, as a forward i rather line up against him than avery because with nigel his mind doh be on the game for all 90 minutes while avery is ah force from beginning to end, he keeps u "honest" on the field.
one dimensional is a joke, maybe yourself, i played high school football, toronto is 8 months of winter and i hated indoor football, so i resorted to playing against my cosuinswho played for holland/ajax and feyronord in europe and tt in the summers against my cousins who played intercol back home, but otherwise i havent played us college ball; so in terms of do i know football, yes i do, my family has a long history in it, so i know alot more than others who pretend to and i do play whenever i get the chance.
offense is your best defense and i rather see nigel lhandle the ball rather than avery.
God is de BOSS....
yuh play football against yuh pumpkin vine cousin who play for "ajax' so dat make yuh ah expert on football, now allyuh doh get mih wrong i not saying that u have to play serious football to know football because some of the ebst coaches in the world never play at the highest level but keep in mind it easy for non players to be an armchair coach, what you from the sidelines is a lot different from on the field itself.
so back to Ti, yuh is ah boss cause u play small goal against yuh cousins, if i mention names of men i play small goal with them u will have to crown me FIFA player of the Year, anyway fire maturana and hire TI so he could select hardest, guerra and nigel, 2010 fuh sure..wait ah minute, TI say we planning for the future not like Leo and the quick fix, i always thought leo job and maturana was the same, qualify for the world cup, i didnt know dem men was hired for ah developmental program, my bad, carry on.
hislop is proving to be a good stopper, don't be so harsh on him! :)TI,
you are the most one dimensional person I have seen on this site, you are very close minded and always believe you are 100% correct about team selection.
you ever play any serious football, i not talking about cleaning hardest tugs and jockstrap...i talking about at a minimum inetrcol, probably league football or US college ball, some kinda ball wheer u will understand the difference between watching the game on tv, watching it live in the stadium, posting on this website and actually playing on the field.
avery is irrational, i guess u referring to the red card against sweden..men argue that ah million times on this site so i not going to discuss that again, my only comment on that is that tackle save us from ah serious buss net and 2 the yellow cards he got only 1 was a good call but on any given day the call could go either way.
i eh hating on nigel daniel, as a matter of fact nigel is mih bredren but from playing with and against him, as a forward i rather line up against him than avery because with nigel his mind doh be on the game for all 90 minutes while avery is ah force from beginning to end, he keeps u "honest" on the field.
one dimensional is a joke, maybe yourself, i played high school football, toronto is 8 months of winter and i hated indoor football, so i resorted to playing against my cosuinswho played for holland/ajax and feyronord in europe and tt in the summers against my cousins who played intercol back home, but otherwise i havent played us college ball; so in terms of do i know football, yes i do, my family has a long history in it, so i know alot more than others who pretend to and i do play whenever i get the chance.
offense is your best defense and i rather see nigel lhandle the ball rather than avery.
God is de BOSS....
yuh play football against yuh pumpkin vine cousin who play for "ajax' so dat make yuh ah expert on football, now allyuh doh get mih wrong i not saying that u have to play serious football to know football because some of the ebst coaches in the world never play at the highest level but keep in mind it easy for non players to be an armchair coach, what you from the sidelines is a lot different from on the field itself.
so back to Ti, yuh is ah boss cause u play small goal against yuh cousins, if i mention names of men i play small goal with them u will have to crown me FIFA player of the Year, anyway fire maturana and hire TI so he could select hardest, guerra and nigel, 2010 fuh sure..wait ah minute, TI say we planning for the future not like Leo and the quick fix, i always thought leo job and maturana was the same, qualify for the world cup, i didnt know dem men was hired for ah developmental program, my bad, carry on.
pumpkin vine? yuh mad or wha, we never play small goal neither, you need to take yuh out of timing comments back in the hole yuh come from, it seems like advancing is your only aim, development not part of the plan for you, quick fix and no youths to carry on into the future, real short sighted if you ask me and guerra is the best youth in tt, i dont need you to attest to that because you were in that group of people who say locals was a waste of time.
God is de BOSS....
GET OVER THE COLLIN SAMUEL DEAL... I know the man blank Maturana for the Jamaica game in Jamaica, but you are two grown men and get over for the sake of TnT. Give the man another call up. He was going through some rough times in Canada and also was release by Toronto FC. Put your egos aside and make this happen.
Next...
Since you are stead fast with your squad thinking its the best T&T has to offer. I challenge you for a practice match vs the Soca Warriors B squad to see if these players do belong.
Kelvin Jack
Cyd Gray (is back from injury) Brent Sancho - Julius James - Avery John
Anthony Wolfe - Chris Birchall - Denzil Theobald - Collin Samuel
Cornell Glenn - Trent Noel
From there you can see upclose and introduce your self to get to know these guy more and see if they fit to fit you squad. This will end the blacklist theory and that you can pick any player of trini passport. yes you can play the game in you MLStadium if you want ;D
GET OVER THE COLLIN SAMUEL DEAL... I know the man blank Maturana for the Jamaica game in Jamaica, but you are two grown men and get over for the sake of TnT. Give the man another call up. He was going through some rough times in Canada and also was release by Toronto FC. Put your egos aside and make this happen.
Next...
Since you are stead fast with your squad thinking its the best T&T has to offer. I challenge you for a practice match vs the Soca Warriors B squad to see if these players do belong.
Kelvin Jack
Cyd Gray (is back from injury) Brent Sancho - Julius James - Avery John
Anthony Wolfe - Chris Birchall - Denzil Theobald - Collin Samuel
Cornell Glenn - Trent Noel
From there you can see upclose and introduce your self to get to know these guy more and see if they fit to fit you squad. This will end the blacklist theory and that you can pick any player of trini passport. yes you can play the game in you MLStadium if you want ;D
put Spann and Patterson and Hardest on that team too.
GET OVER THE COLLIN SAMUEL DEAL... I know the man blank Maturana for the Jamaica game in Jamaica, but you are two grown men and get over for the sake of TnT. Give the man another call up. He was going through some rough times in Canada and also was release by Toronto FC. Put your egos aside and make this happen.
Next...
Since you are stead fast with your squad thinking its the best T&T has to offer. I challenge you for a practice match vs the Soca Warriors B squad to see if these players do belong.
Kelvin Jack
Cyd Gray (is back from injury) Brent Sancho - Julius James - Avery John
Anthony Wolfe - Chris Birchall - Denzil Theobald - Collin Samuel
Cornell Glenn - Trent Noel
From there you can see upclose and introduce your self to get to know these guy more and see if they fit to fit you squad. This will end the blacklist theory and that you can pick any player of trini passport. yes you can play the game in you MLStadium if you want ;D
put Spann and Patterson and Hardest on that team too.
Patterson aready in Maturana's plan. Stern John took his spot... Hardest too soft for international football... Yes Spann in for Trent Noel cuz, and move Wolfe up front with Glenn.
Doh take advice from here, live and die by your own decisions.
one man saying is Wim fault
Doh take advice from here, live and die by your own decisions.
Leh Pacho haul he backside.. A one way ticket to Columbia Por favor
SM u have more insight than d technical staff I email yuh training squad 2 Fuentes but I in d TTFF blacklist so it must b end up in spam
one man saying is Wim fault
Doh take advice from here, live and die by your own decisions.
Leh Pacho haul he backside.. A one way ticket to Columbia Por favor
ah next man saying is Mats fault.
;D
Austin "Jack" "Mugabe" Warnerone man saying is Wim fault
Doh take advice from here, live and die by your own decisions.
Leh Pacho haul he backside.. A one way ticket to Columbia Por favor
ah next man saying is Mats fault.
;D
Andde kicks is,Is really jackoffasour fault
Pacho coaching like back in the day when you sub position for position, despite score, condition, etc. his decision making in terms of game management is really suspect, as per Cupid on Sunday. I don't have any faith in Maturana. Every video highlight we see men standing around not involved in the session, low energy, no sense of urgency what so ever. Men keep saying that we cannot make a judgement from the highlights but, if all the videos have a recurring theme then we can infer.
I don't know how you all look at football and all that but, bringing Stern on as a sub was a big risk. Stern normally have to get rolling in a game. But, he gamble and it work, so well done.
Whoever the Goalkeeping coach is need to be re evaluated, cause there is no way Phillips or Williams have better footwork and technique than Ince.
We need Sancho and Avery along with Cyd, cause we will need speed against the Guatemalans and Americans. Hislop, Cupid, Smith all them will get burn with speed. Our recovery like cold condense milk.
A coach needs time to know his players and not to depend on opinions from others to make his selection.
We struggle to get past Bermuda so there is a problem.
Here is one suggestion for Maturana, since he didn't have the time to know our players physical, technical, tactical and mental strength and weaknesses under game pressure situations.
A coach needs time to know his players and not to depend on opinions from others to make his selection.
We struggle to get past Bermuda so there is a problem.
Here is one suggestion for Maturana, since he didn't have the time to know our players physical, technical, tactical and mental strength and weaknesses under game pressure situations.
Invite all foreign and Local pros, have a series of intersquad games, with the players knowing that it's a selection process so that they will give 100%
I can't understand why some of our foreign pros are not making the team, these guys are playing outside because there are something that is good about there game and Maturana needs to find that out for himself and not from other people opinions.
A foreign players is a guide for him to know that he must have a good look at those players, a local player don't get a contract abroad by guess.
Doh take advice from here, live and die by your own decisions.
Leh Pacho haul he backside.. A one way ticket to Columbia Por favor
WELL SAIDA coach needs time to know his players and not to depend on opinions from others to make his selection.
We struggle to get past Bermuda so there is a problem.
Here is one suggestion for Maturana, since he didn't have the time to know our players physical, technical, tactical and mental strength and weaknesses under game pressure situations.
Invite all foreign and Local pros, have a series of intersquad games, with the players knowing that it's a selection process so that they will give 100%
I can't understand why some of our foreign pros are not making the team, these guys are playing outside because there are something that is good about there game and Maturana needs to find that out for himself and not from other people opinions.
A foreign players is a guide for him to know that he must have a good look at those players, a local player don't get a contract abroad by guess.
What is this, an U14 scouting/trial session? Pros don't do that man. This is very amateurish!!!
So why Erickson doh do that in Mexico? It not happening. As a coach, you know what positions you are happy with and which ones you are not. You select players based on your observation or the observation of your entire staff. All men calling for all kinda men to come back. Please take men age into consideration. It's annoying to hear all the Maturana bashing. I not necessarily saying the man doing a great job but we cyar be Mexico neither and hurry to fire coaches all the time. I don't believe we are in panick mode, yet.
Relax people, the coach have 2 months to institute his program.
I not necessarily saying the man doing a great job but we cyar be Mexico neither and hurry to fire coaches all the time. I don't believe we are in panick mode, yet.
Relax people, the coach have 2 months to institute his program .
Should wait until we are in panic mode but that would be to late !!!
Doh take advice from here, live and die by your own decisions.
Leh Pacho haul he backside.. A one way ticket to Columbia Por favor
O'Conn ah feel ah spanish give yuh tabanca.
Who here ever play savannah football?
That football different than any other kind of football in the world.
And it could be the Queen's Park Savannah, Aranguez Savannah, or the savannah in Pinto Road Arima -- once is in Trinidad...
EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Everybody could tell the winger where to stand up, how to make a run, how he loafing, or the right technique to cross the ball.
The center link never knocking the ball enough... the sweeper always playing wild... the keeper not diving enough...
IN TRINIDAD EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Allyuh let Maturana coach nah.
Is years the man doing it and he have results to show too.
Relax, sit down, and watch. And leave Maturana to do his job.
Who here ever play savannah football?
That football different than any other kind of football in the world.
And it could be the Queen's Park Savannah, Aranguez Savannah, or the savannah in Pinto Road Arima -- once is in Trinidad...
EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Everybody could tell the winger where to stand up, how to make a run, how he loafing, or the right technique to cross the ball.
The center link never knocking the ball enough... the sweeper always playing wild... the keeper not diving enough...
IN TRINIDAD EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Allyuh let Maturana coach nah.
Is years the man doing it and he have results to show too.
Relax, sit down, and watch. And leave Maturana to do his job.
Left dem O'connor how much ah dem was call 4 BSC head? D man in d wuk 4 6 mths and we kecth we tail 2 beat Bermuda but then again we early 4 2014
Are our fans d only once who comments about a coach and dey selection is dis a unique Trini ting?How much peeps did feel Sven was madddddddddd 2 select Walcot 4 d WC? Let d people say that Ince betta than Williams and Phillip what is d big deal loud steupsssssssssss
Who here ever play savannah football?Recently Domenech say something about France having 60 million national team managers...However, Trinis have a funny way of feeling we unique with everything.
That football different than any other kind of football in the world.
And it could be the Queen's Park Savannah, Aranguez Savannah, or the savannah in Pinto Road Arima -- once is in Trinidad...
EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Everybody could tell the winger where to stand up, how to make a run, how he loafing, or the right technique to cross the ball.
The center link never knocking the ball enough... the sweeper always playing wild... the keeper not diving enough...
IN TRINIDAD EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Allyuh let Maturana coach nah.
Is years the man doing it and he have results to show too.
Relax, sit down, and watch. And leave Maturana to do his job.
Who here ever play savannah football?Recently Domenech say something about France having 60 million national team managers...However, Trinis have a funny way of feeling we unique with everything.
That football different than any other kind of football in the world.
And it could be the Queen's Park Savannah, Aranguez Savannah, or the savannah in Pinto Road Arima -- once is in Trinidad...
EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Everybody could tell the winger where to stand up, how to make a run, how he loafing, or the right technique to cross the ball.
The center link never knocking the ball enough... the sweeper always playing wild... the keeper not diving enough...
IN TRINIDAD EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Allyuh let Maturana coach nah.
Is years the man doing it and he have results to show too.
Relax, sit down, and watch. And leave Maturana to do his job.
I go tell you where we unique though. We are the only country where the biggest spectator coach of them all, a man who never kick a lime in the botanic gardens, let alone the Savannah, could fire qualified coaches whenever it please him for doing less shite than Maturana put down in the last 6 months.
Talk to Stewart Fevrier, talk to Vranes, talk to Wim and talk to BSC about "letting the coach coach..." Some of alyuh who singing that same refrain was busy running up alyuh mouth of some of these same fellas, even on Beenie. And we keeping quiet ent stop Jack from running them.
So as the saying go "Who in the Kitchen does feel de heat" and none of we ent paying licence for we mouth. If alyuh want to stay quiet and watch Jack and dese jokers he controlling turn ALYUH national team into a table football set dat is alyuh business...
And replace him with whom ?!! you saw the game with your own eyes, and so did i .Are our fans d only once who comments about a coach and dey selection is dis a unique Trini ting?How much peeps did feel Sven was madddddddddd 2 select Walcot 4 d WC? Let d people say that Ince betta than Williams and Phillip what is d big deal loud steupsssssssssss
And I say, let pacho go he way.!!
Exactly we cuss BSC till d cows came home dis man doin more crap but give he a chance like is a raffle we runin. Make u tink is 1 rule for foreign crap and another 4 local. Crap is crap whether it wrap ina TNT flag or a Colombian flag.
D only way d memory of d Bermudia fiasco will b removed is when D Warrior Nation charter flight landin in Johannesburg
I go tell you where we unique though. We are the only country where the biggest spectator coach of them all, a man who never kick a lime in the botanic gardens, let alone the Savannah, could fire qualified coaches whenever it please him for doing less shite than Maturana put down in the last 6 months.Talk to Stewart Fevrier, talk to Vranes, talk to Wim and talk to BSC about "letting the coach coach..." Some of alyuh who singing that same refrain was busy running up alyuh mouth of some of these same fellas, even on Beenie. And we keeping quiet ent stop Jack from running them.
So as the saying go "Who in the Kitchen does feel de heat" and none of we ent paying licence for we mouth. If alyuh want to stay quiet and watch Jack and dese jokers he controlling turn ALYUH national team into a table football set dat is alyuh business...
Pacho coaching like back in the day when you sub position for position, despite score, condition, etc. his decision making in terms of game management is really suspect, as per Cupid on Sunday. I don't have any faith in Maturana. Every video highlight we see men standing around not involved in the session, low energy, no sense of urgency what so ever. Men keep saying that we cannot make a judgement from the highlights but, if all the videos have a recurring theme then we can infer.
I don't know how you all look at football and all that but, bringing Stern on as a sub was a big risk. Stern normally have to get rolling in a game. But, he gamble and it work, so well done.
Whoever the Goalkeeping coach is need to be re evaluated, cause there is no way Phillips or Williams have better footwork and technique than Ince.
We need Sancho and Avery along with Cyd, cause we will need speed against the Guatemalans and Americans. Hislop, Cupid, Smith all them will get burn with speed. Our recovery like cold condense milk.
How yuh know that, yuh was at practice? What allyuh does really be saying. Let the coach and them coach nah!! I hope you are an "A" license coach or something yes b/c you sure know more that all the coaches. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback!!
Pacho coaching like back in the day when you sub position for position, despite score, condition, etc. his decision making in terms of game management is really suspect, as per Cupid on Sunday. I don't have any faith in Maturana. Every video highlight we see men standing around not involved in the session, low energy, no sense of urgency what so ever. Men keep saying that we cannot make a judgement from the highlights but, if all the videos have a recurring theme then we can infer.
I don't know how you all look at football and all that but, bringing Stern on as a sub was a big risk. Stern normally have to get rolling in a game. But, he gamble and it work, so well done.
Whoever the Goalkeeping coach is need to be re evaluated, cause there is no way Phillips or Williams have better footwork and technique than Ince.
We need Sancho and Avery along with Cyd, cause we will need speed against the Guatemalans and Americans. Hislop, Cupid, Smith all them will get burn with speed. Our recovery like cold condense milk.
How yuh know that, yuh was at practice? What allyuh does really be saying. Let the coach and them coach nah!! I hope you are an "A" license coach or something yes b/c you sure know more that all the coaches. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback!!
Mr, man yuh don't have to be in training to notice these things. I have consistently seen both GKs in action and observers who know GKing can see the difference.
And by the way all they may teach at an A' License course is including the GK in training sessions. To do be GK specific you have to do your GK diploma and or license. I won't go into qualifications, but I am sure I ain't no arm chair quarterback.
A coach needs time to know his players and not to depend on opinions from others to make his selection.
We struggle to get past Bermuda so there is a problem.
Here is one suggestion for Maturana, since he didn't have the time to know our players physical, technical, tactical and mental strength and weaknesses under game pressure situations.
Invite all foreign and Local pros, have a series of intersquad games, with the players knowing that it's a selection process so that they will give 100%
I can't understand why some of our foreign pros are not making the team, these guys are playing outside because there are something that is good about there game and Maturana needs to find that out for himself and not from other people opinions.
A foreign players is a guide for him to know that he must have a good look at those players, a local player don't get a contract abroad by guess.
What is this, an U14 scouting/trial session? Pros don't do that man. This is very amateurish!!!
So why Erickson doh do that in Mexico? It not happening. As a coach, you know what positions you are happy with and which ones you are not. You select players based on your observation or the observation of your entire staff. All men calling for all kinda men to come back. Please take men age into consideration. It's annoying to hear all the Maturana bashing. I not necessarily saying the man doing a great job but we cyar be Mexico neither and hurry to fire coaches all the time. I don't believe we are in panick mode, yet.
Relax people, the coach have 2 months to institute his program.
If yuh have 2 wuk magic 2 beat Bermuda what u have 2 do against USA Obeah dem writers does realize what nonesense dey does b puttin in d press
Ian Prescott seems impressed after the Bermuda win.
His Headline is...
MATURANA'S MAGIC
T&T coach rings changes for qualifying victory
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_sports?id=161343209
If yuh have 2 wuk magic 2 beat Bermuda what u have 2 do against USA Obeah dem writers does realize what nonesense dey does b puttin in d press
You are taking your dislike for Maturana to new heights, you are everywhere bad mouthing him. Take a break.
Pacho coaching like back in the day when you sub position for position, despite score, condition, etc. his decision making in terms of game management is really suspect, as per Cupid on Sunday. I don't have any faith in Maturana. Every video highlight we see men standing around not involved in the session, low energy, no sense of urgency what so ever. Men keep saying that we cannot make a judgement from the highlights but, if all the videos have a recurring theme then we can infer.
I don't know how you all look at football and all that but, bringing Stern on as a sub was a big risk. Stern normally have to get rolling in a game. But, he gamble and it work, so well done.
Whoever the Goalkeeping coach is need to be re evaluated, cause there is no way Phillips or Williams have better footwork and technique than Ince.
We need Sancho and Avery along with Cyd, cause we will need speed against the Guatemalans and Americans. Hislop, Cupid, Smith all them will get burn with speed. Our recovery like cold condense milk.
How yuh know that, yuh was at practice? What allyuh does really be saying. Let the coach and them coach nah!! I hope you are an "A" license coach or something yes b/c you sure know more that all the coaches. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback!!
Mr, man yuh don't have to be in training to notice these things. I have consistently seen both GKs in action and observers who know GKing can see the difference.
And by the way all they may teach at an A' License course is including the GK in training sessions. To do be GK specific you have to do your GK diploma and or license. I won't go into qualifications, but I am sure I ain't no arm chair quarterback.
You sure are an arn chair quarterback. If you read what the man say, basically in training the man was sharper than Ince. Regarding the GK issue, do you know who is the GK coach? Check yuh research, he was one of we all time bestsand he also worked along with Beenieman.
Let the coach please.
Brudder me likin Pancho eh likin Pancho what dat have 2 do wit anyting but y should a writer big up a man 4 beatin Bermuda dat is what u should focus on
Always remember d 1st ostrich was found in TNT
If we look back at the history of T&T Coaches there is a continued pattern,Coaches don't last any time on the job,we change Coaches more regular than we change our clothes,some of them had more than one term but were fired and rehired,Tallman could you put together a list of national team Coaches from lets say Burn Boots days,what's going on with Coaches in T&T is nothing new,the philosophy in T&T is always the Coach is the problem,once a team not playing well is Coach but when things going well is players.
My observation is,don't matter what Maturana does with the players he have at his disposal,to some people he still has to go,our Coaches have never been given enough time to settle in on the job,to developer and gain any kind of experience at that level,just how players take years to developer and play at different levels it's the same with Coaches,example look at say Gally and Bertille,i think they did a very good job as Coaches at the international despite what ever qualifications/experience to Coach at that level,now they were fired and where are they now,foreign Coaches at the top level go from job to job so it keep them sharp and their level up.
Our Coaches always have to be starting from scratch because they are never kept on the job long enough to know players,by the time they know the players they are fired or gone (Benie),Football today is about success and the easiest scapegoat in this game is the Coach,once things not going right is Coach,as long as T&T continue to just put plasters on every sore it have and don't get down to fixing our issues and problems don't expect much to change.
If we look back at the history of T&T Coaches there is a continued pattern,Coaches don't last any time on the job,we change Coaches more regular than we change our clothes,some of them had more than one term but were fired and rehired,Tallman could you put together a list of national team Coaches from lets say Burn Boots days,what's going on with Coaches in T&T is nothing new,the philosophy in T&T is always the Coach is the problem,once a team not playing well is Coach but when things going well is players.Coach , it seem like it's only you and a few men who does approach football objectivly ? ah mean, it's like ah can't believe what i'm hearing !
My observation is,don't matter what Maturana does with the players he have at his disposal,to some people he still has to go,our Coaches have never been given enough time to settle in on the job,to developer and gain any kind of experience at that level,just how players take years to developer and play at different levels it's the same with Coaches,example look at say Gally and Bertille,i think they did a very good job as Coaches at the international despite what ever qualifications/experience to Coach at that level,now they were fired and where are they now,foreign Coaches at the top level go from job to job so it keep them sharp and their level up.
Our Coaches always have to be starting from scratch because they are never kept on the job long enough to know players,by the time they know the players they are fired or gone (Benie),Football today is about success and the easiest scapegoat in this game is the Coach,once things not going right is Coach,as long as T&T continue to just put plasters on every sore it have and don't get down to fixing our issues and problems don't expect much to change.
fellas calling for the coach head after less than ten games, with only two defeats without we main star player KJ.
i sat and watch the first game @ the marvin lee and let me tell yuh, the reason bermuda beat us was due to compliasance and over confidence, especially after stern john equalized.
whitley , carlos and telesford were the only players playing with ah sense of urgency.
stern and scottie was walking around like we was up ten nil, ince was as drunk and giddy as craig with ah bottle ah bay rum in his hand,apart from the guys i mentioned together with farrier, the rest of the team was lax as lax could be.
so from what i saw! the team was to blame not the coach, stern kick ah powder puff straight @ the keeper (1)
he missed another sitter on a cross from edwards (2) he then missed another point blank shot from close range, no placing of shots ,
scottie also blew one straight over bars when he could've simply place ah nice shot in the corner, and ince was keeping like he was drunk out his chubby mind. scottie, stern and ince blew the game for us , so tell me how is that any fault of the coach.
GET OVER THE COLLIN SAMUEL DEAL... I know the man blank Maturana for the Jamaica game in Jamaica, but you are two grown men and get over for the sake of TnT. Give the man another call up. He was going through some rough times in Canada and also was release by Toronto FC. Put your egos aside and make this happen.
Next...
Since you are stead fast with your squad thinking its the best T&T has to offer. I challenge you for a practice match vs the Soca Warriors B squad to see if these players do belong.
Kelvin Jack
Cyd Gray (is back from injury) Brent Sancho - Julius James - Avery John
Anthony Wolfe - Chris Birchall - Denzil Theobald - Collin Samuel
Cornell Glenn - Trent Noel
From there you can see upclose and introduce your self to get to know these guy more and see if they fit to fit you squad. This will end the blacklist theory and that you can pick any player of trini passport. yes you can play the game in you MLStadium if you want ;D
put Spann and Patterson and Hardest on that team too.
Patterson aready in Maturana's plan. Stern John took his spot... Hardest too soft for international football... Yes Spann in for Trent Noel cuz, and move Wolfe up front with Glenn.
We aint deep enough for men to be losing they spot in the training squad.
I forget Sealy too, all these men should be in camp for the next few weeks fighting for spots.
I also find if we overloaded with forwards, and some of the mids not up to par then let some them extra forwards play in the middle, we need out best players on the field.Imagine Cornell and Stern up front, and Jones sitting behind the two strikers using his passing ability to link the mids and forwards as an attacking mid. Then Whitley could be more defensive, but still with the ability to go forward if the opportunity arose.
Agreed sit down ,relax and watch we ass get kicked up and down Concacaf :beermug:Who here ever play savannah football?
That football different than any other kind of football in the world.
And it could be the Queen's Park Savannah, Aranguez Savannah, or the savannah in Pinto Road Arima -- once is in Trinidad...
EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Everybody could tell the winger where to stand up, how to make a run, how he loafing, or the right technique to cross the ball.
The center link never knocking the ball enough... the sweeper always playing wild... the keeper not diving enough...
IN TRINIDAD EVERY SPECTATOR IS A COACH
Allyuh let Maturana coach nah.
Is years the man doing it and he have results to show too.
Relax, sit down, and watch. And leave Maturana to do his job.
Agreed.
If you check CONCACAF history since 1989, lots of supposed top teams have struggled immensely in the early rounds, and come good and peak when it matters, you guys rememebr Barbados beating Costa Rica in Barbados, then CR coming back to qualify?
Football is not 1+1 = 2 as Beenie used to say, so the fact that we struggled to beat Bermuda does not mean we are automatic crap and will lose heavily in the next round - how come only 1 week earlier we were 1 minute away from beating Jamaica who won their tie 13-0 or something like that? Didnt we lose to this same Ja team 2-4 in POS in July 2000, only to go on and romp past our semi final group one week after that ja beating??
If you check CONCACAF history since 1989, lots of supposed top teams have struggled immensely in the early rounds, and come good and peak when it matters, you guys rememebr Barbados beating Costa Rica in Barbados, then CR coming back to qualify?
Football is not 1+1 = 2 as Beenie used to say, so the fact that we struggled to beat Bermuda does not mean we are automatic crap and will lose heavily in the next round - how come only 1 week earlier we were 1 minute away from beating Jamaica who won their tie 13-0 or something like that? Didnt we lose to this same Ja team 2-4 in POS in July 2000, only to go on and romp past our semi final group one week after that ja beating??
I would prefer you use another example. We may have romped through the semifinal round in 02, but we get we ass handed to us in the Hex and dat same Yardie team beat us coming and going...
I personally never call for Pacho head but, I'm not sure if you remember what happen with Costa Rica in 2002, but after they barely make it out of that semifinal round (loss to Barbados, play off with Guatemala) they fire their Brazilian coach and bring in Guimaraes for the Hex ...
That said, yes the players deserve some of the blame too, along with Jack and the Corneals, etc.
So kev my guess is you were not @ the game , or maybe you didn't notice the changes he made to the defence @ 1/2 time, hence the reason we did not concede anymore goals.If we look back at the history of T&T Coaches there is a continued pattern,Coaches don't last any time on the job,we change Coaches more regular than we change our clothes,some of them had more than one term but were fired and rehired,Tallman could you put together a list of national team Coaches from lets say Burn Boots days,what's going on with Coaches in T&T is nothing new,the philosophy in T&T is always the Coach is the problem,once a team not playing well is Coach but when things going well is players.Coach , it seem like it's only you and a few men who does approach football objectivly ? ah mean, it's like ah can't believe what i'm hearing !
My observation is,don't matter what Maturana does with the players he have at his disposal,to some people he still has to go,our Coaches have never been given enough time to settle in on the job,to developer and gain any kind of experience at that level,just how players take years to developer and play at different levels it's the same with Coaches,example look at say Gally and Bertille,i think they did a very good job as Coaches at the international despite what ever qualifications/experience to Coach at that level,now they were fired and where are they now,foreign Coaches at the top level go from job to job so it keep them sharp and their level up.
Our Coaches always have to be starting from scratch because they are never kept on the job long enough to know players,by the time they know the players they are fired or gone (Benie),Football today is about success and the easiest scapegoat in this game is the Coach,once things not going right is Coach,as long as T&T continue to just put plasters on every sore it have and don't get down to fixing our issues and problems don't expect much to change.
fellas calling for the coach head after less than ten games, with only two defeats without we main star player KJ.
i sat and watch the first game @ the marvin lee and let me tell yuh, the reason bermuda beat us was due to compliasance and over confidence, especially after stern john equalized.
whitley , carlos and telesford were the only players playing with ah sense of urgency.
stern and scottie was walking around like we was up ten nil, ince was as drunk and giddy as craig with ah bottle ah bay rum in his hand,apart from the guys i mentioned together with farrier, the rest of the team was lax as lax could be.
so from what i saw! the team was to blame not the coach, stern kick ah powder puff straight @ the keeper (1)
he missed another sitter on a cross from edwards (2) he then missed another point blank shot from close range, no placing of shots ,
scottie also blew one straight over bars when he could've simply place ah nice shot in the corner, and ince was keeping like he was drunk out his chubby mind. scottie, stern and ince blew the game for us , so tell me how is that any fault of the coach.
JC the thing is, I could accept that argument if you were only talking about the first half of the game. Because after seeing that kind of display, at halftime Maturana should have torn them a new asshole, and let them know that shit not gonna slide. But it was pretty much more of the same in the 2nd half. No new sense of urgency, nuttin. Which telling me he definitely didn't make any kind of serious assertion that it was time to play some serious football. It was just 2nd half of the fete match. So he must take some of the blame.
That said, yes the players deserve some of the blame too, along with Jack and the Corneals, etc. Pacho jus deserve he share of pong too.
So kev my guess is you were not @ the game , or maybe you didn't notice the changes he made to the defence @ 1/2 time, hence the reason we did not concede anymore goals.If we look back at the history of T&T Coaches there is a continued pattern,Coaches don't last any time on the job,we change Coaches more regular than we change our clothes,some of them had more than one term but were fired and rehired,Tallman could you put together a list of national team Coaches from lets say Burn Boots days,what's going on with Coaches in T&T is nothing new,the philosophy in T&T is always the Coach is the problem,once a team not playing well is Coach but when things going well is players.Coach , it seem like it's only you and a few men who does approach football objectivly ? ah mean, it's like ah can't believe what i'm hearing !
My observation is,don't matter what Maturana does with the players he have at his disposal,to some people he still has to go,our Coaches have never been given enough time to settle in on the job,to developer and gain any kind of experience at that level,just how players take years to developer and play at different levels it's the same with Coaches,example look at say Gally and Bertille,i think they did a very good job as Coaches at the international despite what ever qualifications/experience to Coach at that level,now they were fired and where are they now,foreign Coaches at the top level go from job to job so it keep them sharp and their level up.
Our Coaches always have to be starting from scratch because they are never kept on the job long enough to know players,by the time they know the players they are fired or gone (Benie),Football today is about success and the easiest scapegoat in this game is the Coach,once things not going right is Coach,as long as T&T continue to just put plasters on every sore it have and don't get down to fixing our issues and problems don't expect much to change.
fellas calling for the coach head after less than ten games, with only two defeats without we main star player KJ.
i sat and watch the first game @ the marvin lee and let me tell yuh, the reason bermuda beat us was due to compliasance and over confidence, especially after stern john equalized.
whitley , carlos and telesford were the only players playing with ah sense of urgency.
stern and scottie was walking around like we was up ten nil, ince was as drunk and giddy as craig with ah bottle ah bay rum in his hand,apart from the guys i mentioned together with farrier, the rest of the team was lax as lax could be.
so from what i saw! the team was to blame not the coach, stern kick ah powder puff straight @ the keeper (1)
he missed another sitter on a cross from edwards (2) he then missed another point blank shot from close range, no placing of shots ,
scottie also blew one straight over bars when he could've simply place ah nice shot in the corner, and ince was keeping like he was drunk out his chubby mind. scottie, stern and ince blew the game for us , so tell me how is that any fault of the coach.
JC the thing is, I could accept that argument if you were only talking about the first half of the game. Because after seeing that kind of display, at halftime Maturana should have torn them a new asshole, and let them know that shit not gonna slide. But it was pretty much more of the same in the 2nd half. No new sense of urgency, nuttin. Which telling me he definitely didn't make any kind of serious assertion that it was time to play some serious football. It was just 2nd half of the fete match. So he must take some of the blame.
That said, yes the players deserve some of the blame too, along with Jack and the Corneals, etc. Pacho jus deserve he share of pong too.
the team also dominate in the 2nd half and bermuda bearly touch the ball , it was all T&T in the 2nd half, but what yuh expect the coach to do if fellas not finishing that's not his fault . the only blame i put on him is not replacing scottie for daryl, and many other felt the same as i did, and useing this david guy instead of tinto.
he took of hyland and put on farrier in the left back position, he changed the formation from three defenders to 4, and he also moved teleford way back as a fifth defensive option and pushed whitley up in ah more attacking position.
yuh must remember that this coach as with wim, did not have the luxury of having the full squad @ his disposal, so he must work with what's provided. like allyuh forget what jackular said last yr, he will go to the WC with a young team with a small remnant of the WC players.
the blacklist still stand and the coach have to play miracle worker with what's available, so lighten up nah allyuh, cause i don't think sancho, birchall and avery is ever comming back. JMO. positive.
We were almost eliminated by Bermuda, yes Bermuda, so there is a problem that need to get fix quickly.
The quality of players that we have, Bermuda should have never given us any problems. We don't even need a coach on the bench to beat Bermuda.
This only shows that we are putting the wrong team on the field.
Maybe the problem is the assistant coach, how much input does Anton have with Maturana decisions.
We do need a quick fix fast!!
People, all yuh need to get off Maturana's back. He getting blame because he didn't pick we favorites. Maturana is not the reason we lost the first game Stern and Scotland are - they throw away goals, is simply as that. I can't believe that some ah all yuh want to go to 2010 WC with the 2006 team - ah team that ketch the ass to qualify, and we strikers older and slower - Stern is a loafer, and as much as I respect what he has done for our country over the years, and I do see him as a footballing hero, let the man focus on his club career, and past the baton.You could not have said it any better,WELL SAID! :beermug: :beermug:
Coop's is correct, we are not always willing to give our coaches the opportunity to work with their charges. Building a team is an on-going process. Is almost like we expect miracles from our coaches. I for one am happy with Maturana simply because he's willing to work with the home based, something Beenie and Wim weren't willing to do. Our footballing future is dependent on our home based, believe it or not - our past proved that. Our nation's footballing glory did not begin with WC 2006, It began decades before.
Having a team full of foreign based will never guarantee any WC spot. What will guarantee it is a team training together constantly. All yuh fail to realize that even with our foreign based we were finding it difficult to defeat other CFU teams full of local players , coached by local coaches, and no pro league. As I have said before quality players doesn't always translate into a quality team. Our country was defeating other Caribbean teams without challenge decades ago simply because our teams were training together all the time - Mexico and the USA are perfect examples.
We may not like Maturana's picks, but we must remember that we do not have a National football philosophy like other major footballing nations, so we are dependent on the philosophy of each coach we hire. I have a question - Given the opportunity to select 3 T&T players to recommend to Aston Villa during their visit years ago, how many would have recommended Yorke?
Men asking for Beenie and Wim to come back, I don't want them back - they with all their experience did absolutely nothing to assist our local football, they dogged our league and local players, and never saw it fit to make quality suggestions, they were leeches, just like their pay-master.
People, all yuh need to get off Maturana's back. He getting blame because he didn't pick we favorites. Maturana is not the reason we lost the first game Stern and Scotland are - they throw away goals, is simply as that. I can't believe that some ah all yuh want to go to 2010 WC with the 2006 team - ah team that ketch the ass to qualify, and we strikers older and slower - Stern is a loafer, and as much as I respect what he has done for our country over the years, and I do see him as a footballing hero, let the man focus on his club career, and past the baton.You could not have said it any better,WELL SAID! :beermug: :beermug:
Coop's is correct, we are not always willing to give our coaches the opportunity to work with their charges. Building a team is an on-going process. Is almost like we expect miracles from our coaches. I for one am happy with Maturana simply because he's willing to work with the home based, something Beenie and Wim weren't willing to do. Our footballing future is dependent on our home based, believe it or not - our past proved that. Our nation's footballing glory did not begin with WC 2006, It began decades before.
Having a team full of foreign based will never guarantee any WC spot. What will guarantee it is a team training together constantly. All yuh fail to realize that even with our foreign based we were finding it difficult to defeat other CFU teams full of local players , coached by local coaches, and no pro league. As I have said before quality players doesn't always translate into a quality team. Our country was defeating other Caribbean teams without challenge decades ago simply because our teams were training together all the time - Mexico and the USA are perfect examples.
We may not like Maturana's picks, but we must remember that we do not have a National football philosophy like other major footballing nations, so we are dependent on the philosophy of each coach we hire. I have a question - Given the opportunity to select 3 T&T players to recommend to Aston Villa during their visit years ago, how many would have recommended Yorke?
Men asking for Beenie and Wim to come back, I don't want them back - they with all their experience did absolutely nothing to assist our local football, they dogged our league and local players, and never saw it fit to make quality suggestions, they were leeches, just like their pay-master.
Could anyone tell me if Sweden fired their coach after their humiliating 0-0 draw against lowly T&T?
People, all yuh need to get off Maturana's back. He getting blame because he didn't pick we favorites. Maturana is not the reason we lost the first game Stern and Scotland are - they throw away goals, is simply as that. I can't believe that some ah all yuh want to go to 2010 WC with the 2006 team - ah team that ketch the ass to qualify, and we strikers older and slower - Stern is a loafer, and as much as I respect what he has done for our country over the years, and I do see him as a footballing hero, let the man focus on his club career, and past the baton.
Coop's is correct, we are not always willing to give our coaches the opportunity to work with their charges. Building a team is an on-going process. Is almost like we expect miracles from our coaches. I for one am happy with Maturana simply because he's willing to work with the home based, something Beenie and Wim weren't willing to do. Our footballing future is dependent on our home based, believe it or not - our past proved that. Our nation's footballing glory did not begin with WC 2006, It began decades before.
Having a team full of foreign based will never guarantee any WC spot. What will guarantee it is a team training together constantly. All yuh fail to realize that even with our foreign based we were finding it difficult to defeat other CFU teams full of local players , coached by local coaches, and no pro league. As I have said before quality players doesn't always translate into a quality team. Our country was defeating other Caribbean teams without challenge decades ago simply because our teams were training together all the time - Mexico and the USA are perfect examples.
We may not like Maturana's picks, but we must remember that we do not have a National football philosophy like other major footballing nations, so we are dependent on the philosophy of each coach we hire. I have a question - Given the opportunity to select 3 T&T players to recommend to Aston Villa during their visit years ago, how many would have recommended Yorke?
Men asking for Beenie and Wim to come back, I don't want them back - they with all their experience did absolutely nothing to assist our local football, they dogged our league and local players, and never saw it fit to make quality suggestions, they were leeches, just like their pay-master.
I give Maturana 3 more games , then I will criticise or praise.
I give Maturana 3 more games , then I will criticise or praise.
You get yuh 3 games (Jamaica, Bermuda and Bermuda)
What is yuh verdict now?
dats the way FishsWhat Nappy song ? Bring back the old time days.I give Maturana 3 more games , then I will criticise or praise.You get yuh 3 games (Jamaica, Bermuda and Bermuda)
What is yuh verdict now?
Give Gally the job now.
"They passed Theobald the armband and he said I was the most senior man and passed it to me," said John. "I didn't think (Maturana) would take it so personally.."
If Stern sees nothing wrong with what he and Theobald did with the armband, then he shud be consistent and see nothing wrong with the "unprofessional" approach of the TTFF/Maturana. In all fairness, he shud have also commented on what would have been the outcome if he had pulled the armband stunt in Britain.
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ay stern. no need svcs 4 cuba game nxt wed.
want plyr who run fast and no stand up lol. siempre su amigo, pacho.
You are correct but Stern is the one that's going public with his statements,we have not heard anything so far from Pacho which suppose to be the other side of the storey,some how i feel that's not the only cause for Stern not being selected because that is too petty,it's more to do with his game."They passed Theobald the armband and he said I was the most senior man and passed it to me," said John. "I didn't think (Maturana) would take it so personally.."
If Stern sees nothing wrong with what he and Theobald did with the armband, then he shud be consistent and see nothing wrong with the "unprofessional" approach of the TTFF/Maturana. In all fairness, he shud have also commented on what would have been the outcome if he had pulled the armband stunt in Britain.
IF that's what is eating Maturana, well at least tell de man dat....2 professionals behaving unprofessionally.....lord help we....is really ah bunch ah chirren we dealing with yes...Hunt/Jackula and now dis....*sigh* steups....
coops since nobody wanna say it i will..I don't think i said anything different to what you said is just that you tried making it look like you are making a joke and i am just trying to figure out what might be going on,but i respect what you have to say as the expert on here.
YOU ON SHIT!
coops since nobody wanna say it i will..I don't think i said anything different to what you said is just that you tried making it look like you are making a joke and i am just trying to figure out what might be going on,but i respect what you have to say as the expert on here.
YOU ON SHIT!
"They passed Theobald the armband and he said I was the most senior man and passed it to me," said John. "I didn't think (Maturana) would take it so personally.."
If Stern sees nothing wrong with what he and Theobald did with the armband, then he shud be consistent and see nothing wrong with the "unprofessional" approach of the TTFF/Maturana. In all fairness, he shud have also commented on what would have been the outcome if he had pulled the armband stunt in Britain.
This is where the foreign coach thing is a disadvantage. Culture is a part of football as it is a part of life.
Maturana see it as disrespect Theobald see it as an honor to give it to the most senior man. If we had a head coach who was familiar with our culture he may not have reacted in that way.
For Maturana this Guadeloupe game was a big deal for the average Trini player this was a piece of shit game to get a free trip home for the carnival.
Let get real here with what we talking bout.
You could complain all you what about what is right and what is wrong but facts is facts.
We have a laxed attitude to most things in life including who wears the armband for a fete match in the oval.
You see it from the players
You see it from the TTFF management (how many different teams we was going to play before it end up being Guadeloupe.
You see it in the fans, no body even show up for the game
And now you have a coach who trying to expect seriousness in a world surronding by jokers. The end result is Misunderstanding!
Call it want you want, You dont grow up wineing for carnival every year and then all of a sudden a man show up and ask you to only dance salsa. what you think go happen
There is no right and wrong in the world only point of View.
Stern should have never been drop.
But also Stern should not expect any kind of letter or anything because he knows how the TTFF operates.
When was the last time a player get a letter from the TTFF saying they not on the squad. Stern been around long enough to know the deal.
He just throwing stones in the media but that is fine
He will be back on the squad by the US game.
nb: Lisana strikes again!!
KND it eh have nutten 2 do wit culture a clown is a clown is ah clown and we national coach sah clown. U eh go play a man 4 mths because he hand over d captincy drop him from being captin if u want. Y d man who keep d band was allowed 2 continue playinI think this should tell us something Weary,may be it's not the armband it's his playing.
"They passed Theobald the armband and he said I was the most senior man and passed it to me," said John. "I didn't think (Maturana) would take it so personally.."
If Stern sees nothing wrong with what he and Theobald did with the armband, then he shud be consistent and see nothing wrong with the "unprofessional" approach of the TTFF/Maturana. In all fairness, he shud have also commented on what would have been the outcome if he had pulled the armband stunt in Britain.
Good point!!
Imagine if Roy Keene give Carlos Edwards de armband for a game and in de tunnel, he just hand it to Yorke and tell him that he is the most senior.
There are always three sides to every story........and i will be patient!!
ah love it!!
nb: Lisana strikes again!!
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From +8686857744, 2:07am UK:
ay stern. no need svcs 4 cuba game nxt wed.
want plyr who run fast and no stand up lol. siempre su amigo, pacho.
coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
what is so surprising about this? Really?
When Bertille was the coach, he find out Beenie replace he on de radio.
lol
what is so surprising about this? Really?
When Bertille was the coach, he find out Beenie replace he on de radio.
lol
Doe take no tie up.... Dis is the work of ANTON AND ALVIN CORNEAL....
TTFF have to contact Stern re: the dropping. Dis is an organisation that cannot organise a fork in a ho house
palos when they want them men they does contact the club
they could've done that
"They passed Theobald the armband and he said I was the most senior man and passed it to me," said John. "I didn't think (Maturana) would take it so personally.."
If Stern sees nothing wrong with what he and Theobald did with the armband, then he shud be consistent and see nothing wrong with the "unprofessional" approach of the TTFF/Maturana. In all fairness, he shud have also commented on what would have been the outcome if he had pulled the armband stunt in Britain.
Good point!!
Imagine if Roy Keene give Carlos Edwards de armband for a game and in de tunnel, he just hand it to Yorke and tell him that he is the most senior.
There are always three sides to every story........and i will be patient!!
ah love it!!
nb: Lisana strikes again!!
So leh we examine dis situation:
Stern get drop from de team.
De team was officially announced on Thursday so dat is de absolute latest dat de decision to drop Stern could have taken place
We did play El Salvador on Thursday too. So leh we say de team got selected on Wednesday.
TTFF have to contact Stern re: the dropping. Dis is an organisation that cannot organise a fork in a ho house
No surprise dey.
BUT
So many tings could have gone on. They could have tried to contact Stern by phone, left messages dat perhaps weren't picked up, sent an email that could have been caught in a spam filter.
Is that likely given it's the TTFF? No. But is a possibility. One thing we know for sure, nobody from TTFF was goin to fly to England to personally give him de news.
So while Stern might be correct re: the lack of professionalism, what would have been the correct or appropriate means of communicating that his services were not required for the Cuba game IF they had tried and failed to contact him by phone?
"I don't mind being left out (because) that is part of the game," John told the Express. "But the way they handled it was completely unprofessional. They sent a fax out to my manager a week and a half ago saying they wanted me and then someone sent me a text a couple nights ago saying they didn't want me to come back.
Stern slams Maturana's management.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
Unprofessional !
Southampton FC striker and Trinidad and Tobago's all-time record scorer Stern John yesterday slammed the unprofessional approach of the present national coaching staff after being left out the team without any official explanation.
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) contacted Southampton, an English Championship Division club, early this month to request John's services for their 2010 World Cup qualifying fixture away to Cuba on August 20. However, John was stunned to receive a text message during the week from someone within the T&TFF-but not a member of the coaching staff-who said that national coach Francisco Maturana did not want him.
The prolific striker, whose international tally of 69 goals is sixth best of any striker who played the game and more than double the returns of any compatriot, got confirmation of his omission by the media rather than the T&TFF.
"I don't mind being left out (because) that is part of the game," John told the Express. "But the way they handled it was completely unprofessional. They sent a fax out to my manager a week and a half ago saying they wanted me and then someone sent me a text a couple nights ago saying they didn't want me to come back.
"They haven't told me anything yet Not even a phone call or a text or an email just to say 'Stern, this is the situation'.
"After all the years I served my country with honour, it is just about respect."
Neither Maturana nor the T&TFF explained John's exclusion for the Cuba qualifier. John scored the lone goal in a 2-1 qualifying home loss to Bermuda in June but was shocked to lose his starting position for the return leg. John came off the bench to grab the decisive goal as the "Soca Warriors" overcame Bermuda 2-0 and advanced on goal aggregate.
It was John's first taste of the man-management style of the present coaching staff and he was less than impressed. At present, David Muhammad holds the post of team manager, which usually includes the responsibility of ensuring the national players' well-being.
"They have no clue about player management," said the 31-year-old John. "(In Britain) once you are a senior player, the manager pulls you aside a couple days before (the game) and says I am going to leave you out this weekend or I am going to start you on the bench. This is how we are accustomed to things being done in the professional world
"It is embarrassing for a senior player to be treated like this."
John and Maturana, a two-time World Cup coach with his native Colombia, got off to a bad start in the latter's first game in charge against Guadeloupe in February.
The coach asked Densill Theobald to captain the team but, before kick off, the midfielder passed the armband to his 2006 World Cup teammate. Both players were substituted at halftime and Maturana dropped Theobald for five months for not following his instructions.
John insisted that neither he nor Theobald meant to disrespect the coach and too much was made of the episode.
"They passed Theobald the armband and he said I was the most senior man and passed it to me," said John. "I didn't think (Maturana) would take it so personally.."
He accepts that his services may no longer be required although he is not yet ready to retire from the international game.
"I had a fantastic career for Trinidad and Tobago," said John, "and going to the World Cup was a dream come through.
"Marvin (Andrews) and I were talking about it recently because we were there from under-16 when there was no travelling (allowance) or free boots. All we would get was a box lunch to play for your country. But to get to the World Cup was worth the sacrifice.
"I was one of the players who, whenever he got called up, was always there no matter what the situation. I always put my country first.
"If it ends here, I will obviously be disappointed but I had a fantastic career and I enjoyed every minute of it If I have taken my country as far as I can, then so be it."
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From +8686857744, 2:07am UK:
ay stern. no need svcs 4 cuba game nxt wed.
want plyr who run fast and no stand up lol. siempre su amigo, pacho.
Oneof the younger players who was on the team for the Ash Wednesday game say is Stern who tell Bleeder that he (Stern) is the most senior player on the team and to run the arm band. Bleeder say ok if you want it so bad take it.
Ok well the text part I not going to argue that but it was reported here before the world cup that he Stern did not want to play alongside Glen. At that time he had the backing of the technical staff so Glen was getting salt in the lead up to the World Cup. It was only at the World Cup that Glen got playing time alongside Stern. The story was given here by #8(poster's name) Claims to be a close personal friend of Glen and was giving it to us live from inside the camp. The had a few team meetings to try to get the situation sorted. Stern BIG and he does pull rank on everybody.Ratsaman , don't mind WEARY 1969, she have an axe to grind and she doing her job well. there's absolutely nothing you could say about the coaching staff that's remotely positive or complementary that she would respond favorably too, even if they took the team to SA 2010 in the first round of play, she would still find fault.
That being said, I am not making excuses for the text. But hey them men was in USA getting ready to play the game, after comming straight from Hati, so who was really to call ???
coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
Sub1,Amarldinho if nobdy wants to say it i will,it seems there is a tendancy on here to get me off this forum like they did Slim,is one thing i never do and that is attack people,when people start telling me about going somewhere else like i'm on their website it makes me wonder,the thing is all the people you all hate and don't like in our Football are my friends and that would not change,i don't need this site to get my information,i put things on here on purpose to rile you guys up and you buy it,if Stern John is you all hero he is not mine and that's my personal opinion and view,i have nothing to sell or prove in T&T Football that's for Stern and them to do,i respect you guys and i hope you all would do the same to me in return.coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
I agree with Coops as opposed to the other emotional utterances!!
Sub1,Amarldinho if nobdy wants to say it i will,it seems there is a tendancy on here to get me off this forum like they did Slim,is one thing i never do and that is attack people,when people start telling me about going somewhere else like i'm on their website it makes me wonder,the thing is all the people you all hate and don't like in our Football are my friends and that would not change,i don't need this site to get my information,i put things on here on purpose to rile you guys up and you buy it,if Stern John is you all hero he is not mine and that's my personal opinion and view,i have nothing to sell or prove in T&T Football that's for Stern and them to do,i respect you guys and i hope you all would do the same to me in return.coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
I agree with Coops as opposed to the other emotional utterances!!
Sub1,Amarldinho if nobdy wants to say it i will,it seems there is a tendancy on here to get me off this forum like they did Slim,is one thing i never do and that is attack people,when people start telling me about going somewhere else like i'm on their website it makes me wonder,the thing is all the people you all hate and don't like in our Football are my friends and that would not change,i don't need this site to get my information,i put things on here on purpose to rile you guys up and you buy it,if Stern John is you all hero he is not mine and that's my personal opinion and view,i have nothing to sell or prove in T&T Football that's for Stern and them to do,i respect you guys and i hope you all would do the same to me in return.coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
I agree with Coops as opposed to the other emotional utterances!!
coops, how does me saying you on shit equate to me attacking you or trying to get you off the forum? 90% of the post i make on this forum i on shit too. What happen you didnt read my next post after?
who could take you off the forum besides the mods?
you's ah big man, and look you just say u does put thing on here on purpose to rile up men, so doh come here with dem long tears when riled up man like sub1 take ah turn in yuh ass.
i say you on shit because i really cyah understand how you could look at the article in this thread with objective eyes and then spin it the way you did and talk bout we eh hear pacho side. Ent the article is about Stern's side of the story?? I eh know whey yuh feel you going with that jokey Carl Hooper-like spin, I seeing de ball big, big.
anyhow, bottom line no disrespect was intended from me but still, yuh was on shit.
Omar if you read all the posts after my own you would see how many different twist people put on this thing and nobody say they talking shyt,most repeated the same things i said,but the mentality is i am a JW fan so you find any thing i say not only on this topic alone i observe does be shyt to guys from the anti JW/TTFF clan.Sub1,Amarldinho if nobdy wants to say it i will,it seems there is a tendancy on here to get me off this forum like they did Slim,is one thing i never do and that is attack people,when people start telling me about going somewhere else like i'm on their website it makes me wonder,the thing is all the people you all hate and don't like in our Football are my friends and that would not change,i don't need this site to get my information,i put things on here on purpose to rile you guys up and you buy it,if Stern John is you all hero he is not mine and that's my personal opinion and view,i have nothing to sell or prove in T&T Football that's for Stern and them to do,i respect you guys and i hope you all would do the same to me in return.coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
I agree with Coops as opposed to the other emotional utterances!!
coops, how does me saying you on shit equate to me attacking you or trying to get you off the forum? 90% of the post i make on this forum i on shit too. What happen you didnt read my next post after?
who could take you off the forum besides the mods?
you's ah big man, and look you just say u does put thing on here on purpose to rile up men, so doh come here with dem long tears when riled up man like sub1 take ah turn in yuh ass.
i say you on shit because i really cyah understand how you could look at the article in this thread with objective eyes and then spin it the way you did and talk bout we eh hear pacho side. Ent the article is about Stern's side of the story?? I eh know whey yuh feel you going with that jokey Carl Hooper-like spin, I seeing de ball big, big.
anyhow, bottom line no disrespect was intended from me but still, yuh was on shit.
Omar if you read all the posts after my own you would see how many different twist people put on this thing and nobody say they talking shyt,most repeated the same things i said,but the mentality is i am a JW fan so you find any thing i say not only on this topic alone i observe does be shyt to guys from the anti JW/TTFF clan.Sub1,Amarldinho if nobdy wants to say it i will,it seems there is a tendancy on here to get me off this forum like they did Slim,is one thing i never do and that is attack people,when people start telling me about going somewhere else like i'm on their website it makes me wonder,the thing is all the people you all hate and don't like in our Football are my friends and that would not change,i don't need this site to get my information,i put things on here on purpose to rile you guys up and you buy it,if Stern John is you all hero he is not mine and that's my personal opinion and view,i have nothing to sell or prove in T&T Football that's for Stern and them to do,i respect you guys and i hope you all would do the same to me in return.coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
I agree with Coops as opposed to the other emotional utterances!!
coops, how does me saying you on shit equate to me attacking you or trying to get you off the forum? 90% of the post i make on this forum i on shit too. What happen you didnt read my next post after?
who could take you off the forum besides the mods?
you's ah big man, and look you just say u does put thing on here on purpose to rile up men, so doh come here with dem long tears when riled up man like sub1 take ah turn in yuh ass.
i say you on shit because i really cyah understand how you could look at the article in this thread with objective eyes and then spin it the way you did and talk bout we eh hear pacho side. Ent the article is about Stern's side of the story?? I eh know whey yuh feel you going with that jokey Carl Hooper-like spin, I seeing de ball big, big.
anyhow, bottom line no disrespect was intended from me but still, yuh was on shit.
Sub1,Amarldinho if nobdy wants to say it i will,it seems there is a tendancy on here to get me off this forum like they did Slim,is one thing i never do and that is attack people,when people start telling me about going somewhere else like i'm on their website it makes me wonder,the thing is all the people you all hate and don't like in our Football are my friends and that would not change,i don't need this site to get my information,i put things on here on purpose to rile you guys up and you buy it,if Stern John is you all hero he is not mine and that's my personal opinion and view,i have nothing to sell or prove in T&T Football that's for Stern and them to do,i respect you guys and i hope you all would do the same to me in return.coops since nobody wanna say it i will..[/b]
YOU ON SHIT!
Not on it only , he manufacturing it. In my heart of hearts is either Coops is the biggest brownnose looking for wuk or he just simply naive. Imagine this man play at national level and coming here with this BS. Coops boy go somewhere else to sell your BS because no one buying it here. Maturana is an asshole and is highly unprofessinal and should be run out of town with extreme urgency. If JW planted you on this board to for PR purposes it aint working.
I agree with Coops as opposed to the other emotional utterances!!
Omar if you read all the posts after my own you would see how many different twist people put on this thing and nobody say they talking shyt,most repeated the same things i said,but the mentality is i am a JW fan so you find any thing i say not only on this topic alone i observe does be shyt to guys from the anti JW/TTFF clan.QuoteQuote
but who fault is that?You beat around the bush until i get you to say what you wanted to say all along and save yourself all the old talk,it's not that i'm talking shyt this is personal attacks,just because i'm open and gives credit where credit is due,i have enough negative and hurtfull post on this site all i try to do is put a positive spin on things,tell me what's wrong with that,do i have to join your wagon to be accepted.Quote
Omar if you read all the posts after my own you would see how many different twist people put on this thing and nobody say they talking shyt,most repeated the same things i said,but the mentality is i am a JW fan so you find any thing i say not only on this topic alone i observe does be shyt to guys from the anti JW/TTFF clan.QuoteQuote
but who fault is that?You beat around the bush until i get you to say what you wanted to say all along and save yourself all the old talk,it's not that i'm talking shyt this is personal attacks,just because i'm open and gives credit where credit is due,i have enough negative and hurtfull post on this site all i try to do is put a positive spin on things,tell me what's wrong with that,do i have to join your wagon to be accepted.Quote
Stern has been and will always be a disruptive player. Remember the situation between he and Glen before the world cup ?
Pacho new so he now find this out. And he ent go take Stern side like the other coaches/JW yes men. How many coaches before had the balls to drop Stern. Just what he needed and it worked before in the final games in qualifying for 2006.
Let we hope this have the same effect and really motivate him to produce.
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Ok well the text part I not going to argue that but it was reported here before the world cup that he Stern did not want to play alongside Glen. At that time he had the backing of the technical staff so Glen was getting salt in the lead up to the World Cup. It was only at the World Cup that Glen got playing time alongside Stern. The story was given here by #8(poster's name) Claims to be a close personal friend of Glen and was giving it to us live from inside the camp. The had a few team meetings to try to get the situation sorted. Stern BIG and he does pull rank on everybody.
That being said, I am not making excuses for the text. But hey them men was in USA getting ready to play the game, after comming straight from Hati, so who was really to call ???
if Trinidad lose to cuba especially for not scoring goals you think Maturana feeling pressure now?i repeat
Stern has been and will always be a disruptive player. Remember the situation between he and Glen before the world cup ?
Pacho new so he now find this out. And he ent go take Stern side like the other coaches/JW yes men. How many coaches before had the balls to drop Stern. Just what he needed and it worked before in the final games in qualifying for 2006.
Let we hope this have the same effect and really motivate him to produce.
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Ok well the text part I not going to argue that but it was reported here before the world cup that he Stern did not want to play alongside Glen. At that time he had the backing of the technical staff so Glen was getting salt in the lead up to the World Cup. It was only at the World Cup that Glen got playing time alongside Stern. The story was given here by #8(poster's name) Claims to be a close personal friend of Glen and was giving it to us live from inside the camp. The had a few team meetings to try to get the situation sorted. Stern BIG and he does pull rank on everybody.
That being said, I am not making excuses for the text. But hey them men was in USA getting ready to play the game, after comming straight from Hati, so who was really to call ???
RASTAMAN YUH IS AH FACKING BALDHEAD !!
Yuh sounding like one ah dem 'sight meh and relate' macomey man who does bump dey gum bout wha dey doh know.Yuh read de tata yuh write before yuh post it or yuh just facking retarted ?????
Now you sound like you doh have ah facking idea about de game, and ah doh just mean on the pitch, but how de order of things are run ah the highest level of the game.Stern is not a 'disruptive player' a 'disruptive player' is someone who cause problems on and off the pitch,someone who is detrimental to the team and as a result hinders the performance of the team.If Stern had a problem with Cornell and he was 'disruptive' to the team ,do you think we would gone to the WC ?Do you think he or Cornell wudda ah still be on the team ,if the so called 'problem' between them was so 'disruptive' that Beenie wudda jepodize the whole team qualifying ? The fact is Stern was instrumental in getting us to the WC .Stern was never trying to 'salt' Cornell,he had no reason to.His place was secure on the squad for the simple fact that he was our LEADING FACKING GOAL SCORER nuttin else.No rank ting as you so dotishly put ,his spot was secure for his goals plain and simple.
Now ah doh want tuh slam Cornell but ah have tuh educate yuh chupid ass.A few years back in the Gold cup in Miami Cornell come on in de 2nd half and score ah nice header from ah cross from Angus.Well everybody say Cornell shud start the next game, so Cornell start the next game .............if he touch de ball twice he touch it pleanty and I eh joking, go and watch the tape....he was subbed at half time. My point is Stern doh feel threaten by any striker TnT have he is the only player we have that we could of count on to score goals for us to go to Germany and he delivered.The only player on TnT squad that yuh cud say 'bound tuh score'.
Just now rastaman ah go come back tuh you.....
Maturana is ah facking goat ,a has been who never had to do much with them Columbian teams that went to the WC. He had players like Valderama,Wanchope,Rincon in they prime,he had a good team,playing on talent.Hear meh good,when we was losing against Bermuda in TnT, at half time, Alvin facking Corneal had to come into the dressing room and talk to the players ,not that facking asshole that coaching TnT right now . He din have ah clue what to do and was looking and shaking like Muhammad Ali. That could never happen with a real gaffer,he is the one put the team on the pitch and now when things going wrong he eh have ah clue what to say to his players...NOT AH FACKING PEEP AT HALF TIME AND WE LOSING TUH BERMUDA ,AT HOME TOO.....Bertille St Clair better than this con't ,Maturana is ah dunce of the game working with old old old credentials.
Say what yuh want bout Beenie but as a expierence coach he understood that TnT does not have a talent pool like Brazil or Argentina and he work with the best we had.Beenie eh expierement with youth ,he realize the talent we have just needed good coaching, and he provided that,the rest is history.
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..Back tuh you nowRastamanBaldhead in case yuh din know,the so called 'disruptive' player never once turn his back on TnT and refuse tuh play.Always showing up when called,never late,and he doh walk with he hand swinging,he does walk with he goals.The man does be jeopdizing his starting place with the team that paying his wages,only tuh come home tuh some micky mouse organization and have tuh deal with pure bull shit and disrespect.But #14 never say 'fack dat',I bigger than this ,when Dwight and Latas getting the utmost respeck from everybody ,Stern for whatever reason,always getting pong and had to be proving himself.Imagine de haters say he is de laziest ,he doh run ah tall,he does loaf,he always in Zen partying hard,is like some ah all yuh practing tuh be paparattzi and hah nuttin beter to do than tuh maco wha #14 doing off the pitch.But with all that at the end of the day it eh have another player in de Concacaf region scoring at the rate #14 scoring at, UP TO TODAY....NOT EVEN FACKING CLOSE AH SAY !!!
So for all de IMPS who think dropping #14 is the best thing for TnT or that he deserver that kinda ah disrespect,laugh now,becuz time will prove that TnT is going nowhere this WC without #14,unfortunately this will only prove that the assholes that consist of the ttff and their asslickers were wrong in desrespecting and dropping TnT most prolific goal scorer ever.
Maturana + de Corneals + jackass warner + ttff x rastaman = PIG SHIT !!
Stern has been and will always be a disruptive player. Remember the situation between he and Glen before the world cup ?
Pacho new so he now find this out. And he ent go take Stern side like the other coaches/JW yes men. How many coaches before had the balls to drop Stern. Just what he needed and it worked before in the final games in qualifying for 2006.
Let we hope this have the same effect and really motivate him to produce.
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Ok well the text part I not going to argue that but it was reported here before the world cup that he Stern did not want to play alongside Glen. At that time he had the backing of the technical staff so Glen was getting salt in the lead up to the World Cup. It was only at the World Cup that Glen got playing time alongside Stern. The story was given here by #8(poster's name) Claims to be a close personal friend of Glen and was giving it to us live from inside the camp. The had a few team meetings to try to get the situation sorted. Stern BIG and he does pull rank on everybody.
That being said, I am not making excuses for the text. But hey them men was in USA getting ready to play the game, after comming straight from Hati, so who was really to call ???
RASTAMAN YUH IS AH FACKING BALDHEAD !!
Yuh sounding like one ah dem 'sight meh and relate' macomey man who does bump dey gum bout wha dey doh know.Yuh read de tata yuh write before yuh post it or yuh just facking retarted ?????
Now you sound like you doh have ah facking idea about de game, and ah doh just mean on the pitch, but how de order of things are run ah the highest level of the game.Stern is not a 'disruptive player' a 'disruptive player' is someone who cause problems on and off the pitch,someone who is detrimental to the team and as a result hinders the performance of the team.If Stern had a problem with Cornell and he was 'disruptive' to the team ,do you think we would gone to the WC ?Do you think he or Cornell wudda ah still be on the team ,if the so called 'problem' between them was so 'disruptive' that Beenie wudda jepodize the whole team qualifying ? The fact is Stern was instrumental in getting us to the WC .Stern was never trying to 'salt' Cornell,he had no reason to.His place was secure on the squad for the simple fact that he was our LEADING FACKING GOAL SCORER nuttin else.No rank ting as you so dotishly put ,his spot was secure for his goals plain and simple.
Now ah doh want tuh slam Cornell but ah have tuh educate yuh chupid ass.A few years back in the Gold cup in Miami Cornell come on in de 2nd half and score ah nice header from ah cross from Angus.Well everybody say Cornell shud start the next game, so Cornell start the next game .............if he touch de ball twice he touch it pleanty and I eh joking, go and watch the tape....he was subbed at half time. My point is Stern doh feel threaten by any striker TnT have he is the only player we have that we could of count on to score goals for us to go to Germany and he delivered.The only player on TnT squad that yuh cud say 'bound tuh score'.
Just now rastaman ah go come back tuh you.....
Maturana is ah facking goat ,a has been who never had to do much with them Columbian teams that went to the WC. He had players like Valderama,Wanchope,Rincon in they prime,he had a good team,playing on talent.Hear meh good,when we was losing against Bermuda in TnT, at half time, Alvin facking Corneal had to come into the dressing room and talk to the players ,not that facking asshole that coaching TnT right now . He din have ah clue what to do and was looking and shaking like Muhammad Ali. That could never happen with a real gaffer,he is the one put the team on the pitch and now when things going wrong he eh have ah clue what to say to his players...NOT AH FACKING PEEP AT HALF TIME AND WE LOSING TUH BERMUDA ,AT HOME TOO.....Bertille St Clair better than this con't ,Maturana is ah dunce of the game working with old old old credentials.
Say what yuh want bout Beenie but as a expierence coach he understood that TnT does not have a talent pool like Brazil or Argentina and he work with the best we had.Beenie eh expierement with youth ,he realize the talent we have just needed good coaching, and he provided that,the rest is history.
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..Back tuh you nowRastamanBaldhead in case yuh din know,the so called 'disruptive' player never once turn his back on TnT and refuse tuh play.Always showing up when called,never late,and he doh walk with he hand swinging,he does walk with he goals.The man does be jeopdizing his starting place with the team that paying his wages,only tuh come home tuh some micky mouse organization and have tuh deal with pure bull shit and disrespect.But #14 never say 'fack dat',I bigger than this ,when Dwight and Latas getting the utmost respeck from everybody ,Stern for whatever reason,always getting pong and had to be proving himself.Imagine de haters say he is de laziest ,he doh run ah tall,he does loaf,he always in Zen partying hard,is like some ah all yuh practing tuh be paparattzi and hah nuttin beter to do than tuh maco wha #14 doing off the pitch.But with all that at the end of the day it eh have another player in de Concacaf region scoring at the rate #14 scoring at, UP TO TODAY....NOT EVEN FACKING CLOSE AH SAY !!!
So for all de IMPS who think dropping #14 is the best thing for TnT or that he deserver that kinda ah disrespect,laugh now,becuz time will prove that TnT is going nowhere this WC without #14,unfortunately this will only prove that the assholes that consist of the ttff and their asslickers were wrong in desrespecting and dropping TnT most prolific goal scorer ever.
Maturana + de Corneals + jackass warner + ttff x rastaman = PIG SHIT !!
Stern has been and will always be a disruptive player. Remember the situation between he and Glen before the world cup ?
Pacho new so he now find this out. And he ent go take Stern side like the other coaches/JW yes men. How many coaches before had the balls to drop Stern. Just what he needed and it worked before in the final games in qualifying for 2006.
Let we hope this have the same effect and really motivate him to produce.
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Ok well the text part I not going to argue that but it was reported here before the world cup that he Stern did not want to play alongside Glen. At that time he had the backing of the technical staff so Glen was getting salt in the lead up to the World Cup. It was only at the World Cup that Glen got playing time alongside Stern. The story was given here by #8(poster's name) Claims to be a close personal friend of Glen and was giving it to us live from inside the camp. The had a few team meetings to try to get the situation sorted. Stern BIG and he does pull rank on everybody.
That being said, I am not making excuses for the text. But hey them men was in USA getting ready to play the game, after comming straight from Hati, so who was really to call ???
RASTAMAN YUH IS AH FACKING BALDHEAD !!
Yuh sounding like one ah dem 'sight meh and relate' macomey man who does bump dey gum bout wha dey doh know.Yuh read de tata yuh write before yuh post it or yuh just facking retarted ?????
Now you sound like you doh have ah facking idea about de game, and ah doh just mean on the pitch, but how de order of things are run ah the highest level of the game.Stern is not a 'disruptive player' a 'disruptive player' is someone who cause problems on and off the pitch,someone who is detrimental to the team and as a result hinders the performance of the team.If Stern had a problem with Cornell and he was 'disruptive' to the team ,do you think we would gone to the WC ?Do you think he or Cornell wudda ah still be on the team ,if the so called 'problem' between them was so 'disruptive' that Beenie wudda jepodize the whole team qualifying ? The fact is Stern was instrumental in getting us to the WC .Stern was never trying to 'salt' Cornell,he had no reason to.His place was secure on the squad for the simple fact that he was our LEADING FACKING GOAL SCORER nuttin else.No rank ting as you so dotishly put ,his spot was secure for his goals plain and simple.
Now ah doh want tuh slam Cornell but ah have tuh educate yuh chupid ass.A few years back in the Gold cup in Miami Cornell come on in de 2nd half and score ah nice header from ah cross from Angus.Well everybody say Cornell shud start the next game, so Cornell start the next game .............if he touch de ball twice he touch it pleanty and I eh joking, go and watch the tape....he was subbed at half time. My point is Stern doh feel threaten by any striker TnT have he is the only player we have that we could of count on to score goals for us to go to Germany and he delivered.The only player on TnT squad that yuh cud say 'bound tuh score'.
Just now rastaman ah go come back tuh you.....
Maturana is ah facking goat ,a has been who never had to do much with them Columbian teams that went to the WC. He had players like Valderama,Wanchope,Rincon in they prime,he had a good team,playing on talent.Hear meh good,when we was losing against Bermuda in TnT, at half time, Alvin facking Corneal had to come into the dressing room and talk to the players ,not that facking asshole that coaching TnT right now . He din have ah clue what to do and was looking and shaking like Muhammad Ali. That could never happen with a real gaffer,he is the one put the team on the pitch and now when things going wrong he eh have ah clue what to say to his players...NOT AH FACKING PEEP AT HALF TIME AND WE LOSING TUH BERMUDA ,AT HOME TOO.....Bertille St Clair better than this con't ,Maturana is ah dunce of the game working with old old old credentials.
Say what yuh want bout Beenie but as a expierence coach he understood that TnT does not have a talent pool like Brazil or Argentina and he work with the best we had.Beenie eh expierement with youth ,he realize the talent we have just needed good coaching, and he provided that,the rest is history.
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..Back tuh you nowRastamanBaldhead in case yuh din know,the so called 'disruptive' player never once turn his back on TnT and refuse tuh play.Always showing up when called,never late,and he doh walk with he hand swinging,he does walk with he goals.The man does be jeopdizing his starting place with the team that paying his wages,only tuh come home tuh some micky mouse organization and have tuh deal with pure bull shit and disrespect.But #14 never say 'fack dat',I bigger than this ,when Dwight and Latas getting the utmost respeck from everybody ,Stern for whatever reason,always getting pong and had to be proving himself.Imagine de haters say he is de laziest ,he doh run ah tall,he does loaf,he always in Zen partying hard,is like some ah all yuh practing tuh be paparattzi and hah nuttin beter to do than tuh maco wha #14 doing off the pitch.But with all that at the end of the day it eh have another player in de Concacaf region scoring at the rate #14 scoring at, UP TO TODAY....NOT EVEN FACKING CLOSE AH SAY !!!
So for all de IMPS who think dropping #14 is the best thing for TnT or that he deserver that kinda ah disrespect,laugh now,becuz time will prove that TnT is going nowhere this WC without #14,unfortunately this will only prove that the assholes that consist of the ttff and their asslickers were wrong in desrespecting and dropping TnT most prolific goal scorer ever.
Maturana + de Corneals + jackass warner + ttff x rastaman = PIG SHIT !!
Just the response I would expect from STERN'S BITCH.
I never said the man ent good. Every body know that he good. But he is a rank puller, cry baby, a disruptive player to the team. Yes he scores goals and we cannot take that away from him, but he sometimes has to be kept in check.
Stern has been and will always be a disruptive player. Remember the situation between he and Glen before the world cup ?
Pacho new so he now find this out. And he ent go take Stern side like the other coaches/JW yes men. How many coaches before had the balls to drop Stern. Just what he needed and it worked before in the final games in qualifying for 2006.
Let we hope this have the same effect and really motivate him to produce.
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Ok well the text part I not going to argue that but it was reported here before the world cup that he Stern did not want to play alongside Glen. At that time he had the backing of the technical staff so Glen was getting salt in the lead up to the World Cup. It was only at the World Cup that Glen got playing time alongside Stern. The story was given here by #8(poster's name) Claims to be a close personal friend of Glen and was giving it to us live from inside the camp. The had a few team meetings to try to get the situation sorted. Stern BIG and he does pull rank on everybody.
That being said, I am not making excuses for the text. But hey them men was in USA getting ready to play the game, after comming straight from Hati, so who was really to call ???
RASTAMAN YUH IS AH FACKING BALDHEAD !!
Yuh sounding like one ah dem 'sight meh and relate' macomey man who does bump dey gum bout wha dey doh know.Yuh read de tata yuh write before yuh post it or yuh just facking retarted ?????
Now you sound like you doh have ah facking idea about de game, and ah doh just mean on the pitch, but how de order of things are run ah the highest level of the game.Stern is not a 'disruptive player' a 'disruptive player' is someone who cause problems on and off the pitch,someone who is detrimental to the team and as a result hinders the performance of the team.If Stern had a problem with Cornell and he was 'disruptive' to the team ,do you think we would gone to the WC ?Do you think he or Cornell wudda ah still be on the team ,if the so called 'problem' between them was so 'disruptive' that Beenie wudda jepodize the whole team qualifying ? The fact is Stern was instrumental in getting us to the WC .Stern was never trying to 'salt' Cornell,he had no reason to.His place was secure on the squad for the simple fact that he was our LEADING FACKING GOAL SCORER nuttin else.No rank ting as you so dotishly put ,his spot was secure for his goals plain and simple.
Now ah doh want tuh slam Cornell but ah have tuh educate yuh chupid ass.A few years back in the Gold cup in Miami Cornell come on in de 2nd half and score ah nice header from ah cross from Angus.Well everybody say Cornell shud start the next game, so Cornell start the next game .............if he touch de ball twice he touch it pleanty and I eh joking, go and watch the tape....he was subbed at half time. My point is Stern doh feel threaten by any striker TnT have he is the only player we have that we could of count on to score goals for us to go to Germany and he delivered.The only player on TnT squad that yuh cud say 'bound tuh score'.
Just now rastaman ah go come back tuh you.....
Maturana is ah facking goat ,a has been who never had to do much with them Columbian teams that went to the WC. He had players like Valderama,Wanchope,Rincon in they prime,he had a good team,playing on talent.Hear meh good,when we was losing against Bermuda in TnT, at half time, Alvin facking Corneal had to come into the dressing room and talk to the players ,not that facking asshole that coaching TnT right now . He din have ah clue what to do and was looking and shaking like Muhammad Ali. That could never happen with a real gaffer,he is the one put the team on the pitch and now when things going wrong he eh have ah clue what to say to his players...NOT AH FACKING PEEP AT HALF TIME AND WE LOSING TUH BERMUDA ,AT HOME TOO.....Bertille St Clair better than this con't ,Maturana is ah dunce of the game working with old old old credentials.
Say what yuh want bout Beenie but as a expierence coach he understood that TnT does not have a talent pool like Brazil or Argentina and he work with the best we had.Beenie eh expierement with youth ,he realize the talent we have just needed good coaching, and he provided that,the rest is history.
.
..Back tuh you nowRastamanBaldhead in case yuh din know,the so called 'disruptive' player never once turn his back on TnT and refuse tuh play.Always showing up when called,never late,and he doh walk with he hand swinging,he does walk with he goals.The man does be jeopdizing his starting place with the team that paying his wages,only tuh come home tuh some micky mouse organization and have tuh deal with pure bull shit and disrespect.But #14 never say 'fack dat',I bigger than this ,when Dwight and Latas getting the utmost respeck from everybody ,Stern for whatever reason,always getting pong and had to be proving himself.Imagine de haters say he is de laziest ,he doh run ah tall,he does loaf,he always in Zen partying hard,is like some ah all yuh practing tuh be paparattzi and hah nuttin beter to do than tuh maco wha #14 doing off the pitch.But with all that at the end of the day it eh have another player in de Concacaf region scoring at the rate #14 scoring at, UP TO TODAY....NOT EVEN FACKING CLOSE AH SAY !!!
So for all de IMPS who think dropping #14 is the best thing for TnT or that he deserver that kinda ah disrespect,laugh now,becuz time will prove that TnT is going nowhere this WC without #14,unfortunately this will only prove that the assholes that consist of the ttff and their asslickers were wrong in desrespecting and dropping TnT most prolific goal scorer ever.
Maturana + de Corneals + jackass warner + ttff x rastaman = PIG SHIT !!
Just the response I would expect from STERN'S BITCH.
I never said the man ent good. Every body know that he good. But he is a rank puller, cry baby, a disruptive player to the team. Yes he scores goals and we cannot take that away from him, but he sometimes has to be kept in check.
Lika ah say before yuh is ah stinking pork eating baldhead that talking ah pile ah pig shit.
''Yes he scores goals and we cannot take that away from him,''
Bald facking head ..when he score goals he eh scoring for Stern John ,he scoring for TnT,and we need them goals .Yuh eh taking nuttin away from #14 yuh taking goals away from TnT,but they shud put we top goal scorer in 'check' becuz ah few assholes like you think he 'arrogant' ???.Yuh eh see yuh is ah facking cyat....Stop eating pork ,yuh posting PIG SHIT !!
Oh and before ah forget ..de only bitch here is yuh gyul ..ah hear #14 had she crawling outta he flat de odda morning at 5:43am. ;)
rastaman doh study berris dread..Trust me I ent studying that clown Berris. We all know who pulling on his piggie.
ah feelin whey yuh comin from.
we cyah have dem disruptive elements round we team, pacho know wha he doing.
rastaman doh study berris dread..Trust me I ent studying that clown Berris. We all know who pulling on his piggie.
ah feelin whey yuh comin from.
we cyah have dem disruptive elements round we team, pacho know wha he doing.
rastaman doh study berris dread..Trust me I ent studying that clown Berris. We all know who pulling on his piggie.
ah feelin whey yuh comin from.
we cyah have dem disruptive elements round we team, pacho know wha he doing.
rastaman doh study berris dread..Trust me I ent studying that clown Berris. We all know who pulling on his piggie.
ah feelin whey yuh comin from.
we cyah have dem disruptive elements round we team, pacho know wha he doing.
''PIGGIE'' yuh sayrastamanbaldhead...eh eh ...
1. The person doing de 'pulling' is yuh gyul.
2. She eh pulling meh 'piggie', she pulling meh IRON,get it right.
3. Ah give yuh 1 guess wha she using tuh pull ...hint hint .. is not she hands.
4. Now kakahole,see if yuh cud borrow ah wire brush and scrubb off dah rust
from de old chain yuh now bite....yuh big facking dunce :devil: :devil:
Give we 10 reasons y he must stay we have 10 and countin y he must goSo far we have one:
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
well untill FIFA changes how they handle this type of situation we cant bring it upGive we 10 reasons y he must stay we have 10 and countin y he must goSo far we have one:
1. Handball.
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
2. poor player poolWim, dais you?
3. poor player pool
4. poor player pool
5. players not giving of their best at all times( good today not so good tomorrow, poor next day )
6. unavailabilty of best players( due to injury or otherwie )
7. Been there done dat ( Maturana )
8. has managed to change ( although some like stick break in dey ears ) the dump ball style
9. is building more a team than an individual focus
10. has given opportunity to locals by picking them for friendlies
11. is working with locals to imprive their game
12. has the best record in friendlies while using locals as well
I could go on you know .....
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
you making excuses and burying your head in the sand..
those calls were only clear and visible after several tv replays and the 2nd goals was a clean call.. Don't try to swing this as if we get cheated or something.
what you should be more concerned with is how the man get so free and wide open for the 1st goal, handball or not, what was going on with our defense there..
Since yuh playing the "IF" game, what if USA had pong the other 4 goals they shoulda score on us?
But is the same set a men who was also saying "WIM MUST GO" begging now for "WIM TO COME BACK ".
So you all really expected a win last night ?
We lost due to :
1) Senior pleayers not standing up !!!! The same set of them who everybody was saying needed to be there .
Theobald,cyd, Avery (yellow carded), Scotland ( who was ineffective) against Guyana and Carlos who is really lacking confidence at this time !
2) Daniel not understanding his defensive duties
3) Poor set piece defending
4) Telesford not ready for that position !!
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
you making excuses and burying your head in the sand..
those calls were only clear and visible after several tv replays and the 2nd goals was a clean call.. Don't try to swing this as if we get cheated or something.
what you should be more concerned with is how the man get so free and wide open for the 1st goal, handball or not, what was going on with our defense there..
Since yuh playing the "IF" game, what if USA had pong the other 4 goals they shoulda score on us?
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
You seriously blaming de referee for that loss yestersay? That is de poorest excuse I've heard so far.
Reason number 4: They'll promote Anton if he goes.:devil:
Reason number 4: They'll promote Anton if he goes.
since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
We cant fire Maturana now........we have to rally with him. I dont agree with his selections but at this stage, too much has been invested in him for someone else to take over the team now.All kicks aside, I agree wit this. I wouldn't vex if they fire him now, but I doh know what purpose it would serve at this point.
The time to fire him was after the Bermuda game. So allyuh honestly think that if he wasnt fired when we lost to Bermuda at home, they would fire him now when we lost to the USA away?
Yes i know that we want to be playing better, but now is too late.
Good luck to the warriors!!
ah love it!!
Well spoken!!!!!since man putting up de opposite I go post dis ...it have plenty facts I eh seeing coming out ...the first two US goals had hand balls before de player scored all yuh din see dat ? what could Maturana do about dat ? how is he to be blamed for dat. A goal changes everything in a football game ..you chasing de game from dere on in ...yuh game plan etc. affected ...man walk on glen when he was on de ground and eh get nuttin for at ...all yuh eh see dat neither. the players fraid to tackle because de refereeing was jokey ..all yuh eh see man raising dey han and ting becase dey fraid to give away free kick and penalties.
If was a european referee he wasn't missing all dem ting ... Now what allyuh want from maturana ???
first dey criticize him because he kyah speak de language but all yuh same peole say ...de team playing some nice knock now (against Cuba and guatemala ) instead ah dem long ball we was playing !
I tink man go criticise de coach because he spoting ah Afro in dese times ..way ahhyuh want ?
You seriously blaming de referee for that loss yestersay? That is de poorest excuse I've heard so far.
Like I have to read and spell for you ..... no matter how you prepare for an event a single little thing can throw you ....if you never play sports ask someone nah !!! ask Ato, lara, Ames, Crawford ,,it does not matter the sport. I eh blaming de referee for how we play I blaming de referee for allowing or not seeing these little things that can change a game. How you go feel if you playing drafts and a man at the side ah de board move ah piece and noone else eh see and de play stands ? de team was poor because de opposition was superior ! You play as well as your opponent allows you to play ! we have lots of work to do but we have to crawl before we can walk ! The USA was playing Argentina in friendlies ..you think we could get ah friendly against dem ? doh try to make dis look like I blaming ah referee for how men was mistrapping and giving away the ball, Senior professionals on the team included, but you cant blame the coach for dat.If de coach did leave out carlos yuh woulda hear talk but did you see how many times carlos gave away de ball to de opponents or how Glen, who men say play good, was clueless in his position? If I was de coach i woulda let all dem things happen because dis is ah learning experience and we have to finish ahead of cuba and guatemala at this point. When Sorillo beat bolt at the olympics man eh call for bolt's head...because dey know bolt had a plan ...give de coach some credit nah...after all he has more experience dan you or I have right ?
i woulda use dis tape to motivate de players to beat Guatemala and cuba and get us to the next round ....we have seen them play better and I believe with this coach dey can. problem is the chicken and chips mentality hard to break.Let me simplify dis again before man get me wrong ..when you have a start up industry you give it protection before it can survive on its own ..if not it cannot compete with the already established operators ...well in this case the USA is the established operator 5 World cups straight ...you tell me what we should do here ???
Well Jai, I looking all over your post for a smiley, but could not find it, but still assuming you joking...
A true professional would not let a bad call that results in a goal let it affect him from minute 10 in a 90 minute game. That being said. How do you find the team played last night? Which other games have you seen T&T play under Maturana?
Answer those questions and den we could talk.
I am sure if you were the CEO of Repsol or BP you would not just say fire a manager , if you had not thought of who was going to do the job you wanted You want to upset the apple cart in mid stream ..you must have a plan !It would depend on the situation... If the manager thiefing, you will keep looking until you find a replacement to fill his shoes? This is not just about last night we have not played well under Mats and as someome else said he should have been made to walk after the Bermuda fiasco.
We like how the team play against El Salvador, Cuba and Guatemala for the most part, but want to fire de coach after USA beat we.
So let's say we don't make the Hex - I expect that Pacho will be fired then, then what next? I guess you will want the next coach to bring in the blacklisted to prepare for the 2014 WC. Anyhow yuh look at it the youths on this team is we 2014 squad - so get accustom to them. We are not developing players fast enough for there to be significant changes for 2014.
So we get lucky and scrape een the 2006 WC, and all yuh acting like is we birth right to be there every 4 years. For we to guarantee that we get in every 4 years it will take much more than a few foreign based, and a "big name" coach - we must develop a footballing culture in T&T.
We does call weself ah footballing nation, but we doh love football in T&T (we love it everywhere else but T&T), we is ah nation of waggonists, and all yuh want to know why we having problems with player development, and have been ketching we ass to beat lowly CFU teams, even when we "big names" on de field.
All yuh ever watch how we foreign based does play real hard for dey clubs, but look like dey on vacation when dey playing for T&T. Look at all de mistakes Carlos been making, ah bet he doh make dem with Sunderland. Stern doh loaf as much in England - Yet all yuh blaming de coach. The players suppose to want it bad enough because dey representing THEIR nation, and that is all de motivation dey need. That reason alone is enough for dem to play to their full potential, This is not club football - this is yuh nation yuh representing.
Truth be told, and all things considered we shouldn't be in a WC finals, we just very fortunate. Nevertheless, we may stumble in 2010, so that we can finish in 2014 - I cool with that.
yes let's wait till after we lose against Guatemala with Theobald, Leon, Telesford and Wolfe running the midfield and our best defender sitting on the bench and fire him after thatex-fkin - zactly arrow.
We like how the team play against El Salvador, CubaWe did? You mixing up 'happy for the win' with 'liking how they play'. Who here even see the Cuba game to like anything? To the contrary, complaints about the team's play have been going about since Ash Wednesday. Which was why the Guatemala game was a pleasant exception.
I still cannot blame Pacho because football is one of the simplest sports to learn, everything you need to know to be effective in this game you would have learned by the time you are 17 if you are taking the game serious enough, so there should be little need for a coach to have to identify and correct every fault or mistake or even plan strategy simply because the object is always the same. A national team player should be able for the most part to identify his/her faults, and also have an idea on how to fix it, even if it means looking at tapes of quality players/matches - with your coach acting as a facilitator.
So the question is - why are we (T&T) having so much problems on the pitch? I believe that our problem is psychological. I believe that our players enter games focusing on the opponents instead of focusing on OUR game. We consentrate too much on what the other team is doing or going to do instead of being prepared to respond effectively to whatever action they take.
Also, I could never understand the concept of a "game plan" simply because sport is about actions and reactions - you have to react quickly after your opponent provides action, and we can never truly know what an opponent will do at any given time in a match hence the importance of creativity (something that is natural in T&T).
I remember the glory days of T&T football when coaches didn't have game plans, and teams would enter matches knowing what they brought to the table with little or no care about what their opponents can do (in other words bring it on), they were confident in their abilities, even when they had little.
I remember watching T&T play years before the Strike Squad era, and even when we were playing superior teams back then we played like it was supposed to be our last game, we feared no one, our players didn't spectate, they played for glory, they played for T&T, and you witnessed the pride - we never gave up it was football till the end, but then again we weren't exposed to too much foreign football, so we had very little to reference our game by, but today our players and fans are privy to top quality football via cable, and I believe that it may be a contributing factor to OUR (fans) expectations.
We should not forget that the teams we admire have the resources, decades of trail and error, massive player pools, and a national footballing culture. Our players need to believe in their abilities and enter matches with a do or die, make or break mentality - this mind-set will invoke the passion and creativity, and lead us to the type of results we (T&T) are looking for. Remember, it's not what your opponents can do, but what you can do to your opponents.
offside was questionable because the argument is did he interfere with the play and that can be argued all day
Hand ball was unintentional so again hand ball or ball to hand can be argued all day.
The goals really score because we cannot mark properly either from dead ball or field of play.
I balme the coach for not working on set plays defensively men getting beat to the spot consistiently
3 out of the last 4 goals we conceed was the same basic mistake
I still cannot blame Pacho because football is one of the simplest sports to learn, everything you need to know to be effective in this game you would have learned by the time you are 17 if you are taking the game serious enough, so there should be little need for a coach to have to identify and correct every fault or mistake or even plan strategy simply because the object is always the same. A national team player should be able for the most part to identify his/her faults, and also have an idea on how to fix it, even if it means looking at tapes of quality players/matches - with your coach acting as a facilitator.This is one of the best posts I have read on this site in a while.
So the question is - why are we (T&T) having so much problems on the pitch? I believe that our problem is psychological. I believe that our players enter games focusing on the opponents instead of focusing on OUR game. We consentrate too much on what the other team is doing or going to do instead of being prepared to respond effectively to whatever action they take.
Also, I could never understand the concept of a "game plan" simply because sport is about actions and reactions - you have to react quickly after your opponent provides action, and we can never truly know what an opponent will do at any given time in a match hence the importance of creativity (something that is natural in T&T).
I remember the glory days of T&T football when coaches didn't have game plans, and teams would enter matches knowing what they brought to the table with little or no care about what their opponents can do (in other words bring it on), they were confident in their abilities, even when they had little.
I remember watching T&T play years before the Strike Squad era, and even when we were playing superior teams back then we played like it was supposed to be our last game, we feared no one, our players didn't spectate, they played for glory, they played for T&T, and you witnessed the pride - we never gave up it was football till the end, but then again we weren't exposed to too much foreign football, so we had very little to reference our game by, but today our players and fans are privy to top quality football via cable, and I believe that it may be a contributing factor to OUR (fans) expectations.
We should not forget that the teams we admire have the resources, decades of trail and error, massive player pools, and a national footballing culture. Our players need to believe in their abilities and enter matches with a do or die, make or break mentality - this mind-set will invoke the passion and creativity, and lead us to the type of results we (T&T) are looking for. Remember, it's not what your opponents can do, but what you can do to your opponents.
however removing him now may cause more harm than good...flip a coin...Cyah see anymore damage than what already happened..
If we go by the premise that Pacho is not to be blamed, ok!!! Our team looked bloody clueless!!!! When someone on the thread asked why we are never satisfied? Well yesterday's performance should give them a clue.
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
See Reality Check...dais a major reality CheckWho knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
Francisco "Sinatra" Maturana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c)<-- take ah listen :D
you know what i was suppose to ask and i forget, who really picking this team maturana or somebody else , or he getting help?I will ALWAYS be of the opinion that AJW gives ANY TnT Manager a list and says "do ya best wid that"
you know what i was suppose to ask and i forget, who really picking this team maturana or somebody else , or he getting help?I will ALWAYS be of the opinion that AJW gives ANY TnT Manager a list and says "do ya best wid that"
dais just my humble opinion.
'The Legend'
you know what i was suppose to ask and i forget, who really picking this team maturana or somebody else , or he getting help?I will ALWAYS be of the opinion that AJW gives ANY TnT Manager a list and says "do ya best wid that"
dais just my humble opinion.
ya know VB, as Winston Churchill would say....U seriously tink he coulda get away with dat with St. Clair or Beenie??you know what i was suppose to ask and i forget, who really picking this team maturana or somebody else , or he getting help?I will ALWAYS be of the opinion that AJW gives ANY TnT Manager a list and says "do ya best wid that"
dais just my humble opinion.
VB
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
One day down the road Palos' comments will be Exhibit A in ah 'bring back Pacho' thread.
I cool wid calling him Pacho ... as BM suggested a few days ago it might just boil down to "fitting in".
D best coach ever is a good name as he have a winnin recordI thought you'd never arrive. :whew: what took you so long ?
'The Legend'
dude i love the clip of yorke shoulder barge but only for a fine example of play acting by latinos
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
'The Legend'
dude i love the clip of yorke shoulder barge but only for a fine example of play acting by latinos
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
Francisco "Sinatra" Maturana
I know!!! I don't understand what wrong wit dem. Dem fellas on serious Jones oui.
Who knew dat de coach in charge of de 1st T&T team to defeat the USA in a WCQ (1st time in 12 tries) would endure so much abuse eh?
He draw twice with arch rivals Jamaica with a totally local based squad.
He had a winning record in we warm up matches.
We lorse to Bermuda at home but defeated them in their backyard when it counted again with a mostly local based squad
He take de same mostly local based team and beat Cuba in Cuba...when Cuba was still very much in contention for a qualifying spot and completely motivated.
He help to release Keon Daniel potential
We were leading Guatemala at home and conceded a late equalizer in injury time
We lost as expected to the USA
He then got an almost full strength squad and drew with Guatemala in Guatemala while playing for 60 minutes with 10 men
And now we just beat the USA for the first time in our WCQ history
I not sayin de man doh deserve some criticism. But from a RESULTS prespective, it kinda hard to argue against what he's done.
Allyuh want a nickname for Maturana? How about Francisco "I doh give a fork, I doin it my way" Maturana.
no... he slightly improved the local players he picked but funnily enough he failed to pick some of the better local players
Maturana is a goat that needs to get out of here
Well as everyone knows he constantly picks Makan Hislop...who was our number 1 CB(according to Maturana)..up to the USA away game..
I wouldnt say he is shit but he doesnt deserve his starting spot... he slightly improved under Maturana..but to the level of a sub CB at best
Well as everyone knows he constantly picks Makan Hislop...who was our number 1 CB(according to Maturana)..up to the USA away game..
I wouldnt say he is shit but he doesnt deserve his starting spot... he slightly improved under Maturana..but to the level of a sub CB at best
I hear yuh. 1 out of 50 ent bad considering ;D
What yuh think about Hyland...better now or worse than a couple months ago ?
Well as everyone knows he constantly picks Makan Hislop...who was our number 1 CB(according to Maturana)..up to the USA away game..
I wouldnt say he is shit but he doesnt deserve his starting spot... he slightly improved under Maturana..but to the level of a sub CB at best
I hear yuh. 1 out of 50 ent bad considering ;D
What yuh think about Hyland...better now or worse than a couple months ago ?
worse
only looks good when around a good cast of players
Makan Hislop seems a good player to me, but I am not local based. Name some local based center backs that are better than him?
Makan Hislop seems a good player to me, but I am not local based. Name some local based center backs that are better than him?Brent Sancho...he's been playing for NE Stars and they are currently in the semis of the Toyota Classic
Of all the new defenders I have seen I must say Thomas is the best.
Why not 70 players? In the build-up to WC 2002 Brazil tried 400 players before settling on a squad.
What was the purpose of that exercise? Development?
I think development is a long-term concept, and I'm not sure if Maturana has been around long enough for us to fairly comment on his success in the development arena.
I also think it's unrealistic to imagine that a senior team head coach would "improve the quality of local football" in the short space of time that Maturana has been around.
If his exploration of local talent was done in the hopes of unearthing a hidden gem, and giving him some exposure at the senior level (if deserved)... then I give him some credit despite some questionable selections/omissions...
If T&T is waiting on a nat'l senior team head coach to "develop" our local football talent or "improve the quality of local football"..... we're wasting time. I can hardly imagine a senior team head coach in any footballing nation that is charged with that responsibility. That probably brings to question what we actually mean by development.
Good thread though- should bring out some interesting responses...
Did Maturana improve the quality of local football ?
Well as everyone knows he constantly picks Makan Hislop...who was our number 1 CB(according to Maturana)..up to the USA away game..
I wouldnt say he is shit but he doesnt deserve his starting spot... he slightly improved under Maturana..but to the level of a sub CB at best
I hear yuh. 1 out of 50 ent bad considering ;D
What yuh think about Hyland...better now or worse than a couple months ago ?
worse
only looks good when around a good cast of players
Couldn't agree with you more.
Did Maturana improve the quality of local football ?
Did Beenie?
I think development is a long-term concept, and I'm not sure if Maturana has been around long enough for us to fairly comment on his success in the development arena.
I also think it's unrealistic to imagine that a senior team head coach would "improve the quality of local football" in the short space of time that Maturana has been around.
If his exploration of local talent was done in the hopes of unearthing a hidden gem, and giving him some exposure at the senior level (if deserved)... then I give him some credit despite some questionable selections/omissions...
If T&T is waiting on a nat'l senior team head coach to "develop" our local football talent or "improve the quality of local football"..... we're wasting time. I can hardly imagine a senior team head coach in any footballing nation that is charged with that responsibility. That probably brings to question what we actually mean by development.
Good thread though- should bring out some interesting responses...
I agree totally. Then I can't understand why men still saying he developing local players. It is even a stretch to say he unearthed some of the local players, because he come and meet them playing for some club or the other, so somebody done unearth them already. The most we could say is that he gave them a chance on the national team...IMO before their time. Personally I think he devalue the national team by treating it as his personal club team.
ps anytime I mention he...ah really referring to they...he and corneal.
Did Maturana improve the quality of local football ?
Did Beenie?
Categorically NO !
But I did see improvement with the local players who were on the WC team...especially Wolfe.
I think development is a long-term concept, and I'm not sure if Maturana has been around long enough for us to fairly comment on his success in the development arena.
I also think it's unrealistic to imagine that a senior team head coach would "improve the quality of local football" in the short space of time that Maturana has been around.
If his exploration of local talent was done in the hopes of unearthing a hidden gem, and giving him some exposure at the senior level (if deserved)... then I give him some credit despite some questionable selections/omissions...
If T&T is waiting on a nat'l senior team head coach to "develop" our local football talent or "improve the quality of local football"..... we're wasting time. I can hardly imagine a senior team head coach in any footballing nation that is charged with that responsibility. That probably brings to question what we actually mean by development.
Good thread though- should bring out some interesting responses...
I agree totally. Then I can't understand why men still saying he developing local players. It is even a stretch to say he unearthed some of the local players, because he come and meet them playing for some club or the other, so somebody done unearth them already. The most we could say is that he gave them a chance on the national team...IMO before their time. Personally I think he devalue the national team by treating it as his personal club team.
ps anytime I mention he...ah really referring to they...he and corneal.
So now I ask, did the Brazilians?
I think development is a long-term concept, and I'm not sure if Maturana has been around long enough for us to fairly comment on his success in the development arena.
I also think it's unrealistic to imagine that a senior team head coach would "improve the quality of local football" in the short space of time that Maturana has been around.
If his exploration of local talent was done in the hopes of unearthing a hidden gem, and giving him some exposure at the senior level (if deserved)... then I give him some credit despite some questionable selections/omissions...
If T&T is waiting on a nat'l senior team head coach to "develop" our local football talent or "improve the quality of local football"..... we're wasting time. I can hardly imagine a senior team head coach in any footballing nation that is charged with that responsibility. That probably brings to question what we actually mean by development.
Good thread though- should bring out some interesting responses...
I agree totally. Then I can't understand why men still saying he developing local players. It is even a stretch to say he unearthed some of the local players, because he come and meet them playing for some club or the other, so somebody done unearth them already. The most we could say is that he gave them a chance on the national team...IMO before their time. Personally I think he devalue the national team by treating it as his personal club team.
ps anytime I mention he...ah really referring to they...he and corneal.
So now I ask, did the Brazilians?
Did Maturana improve the quality of local football ?
Did Beenie?
Categorically NO !
But I did see improvement with the local players who were on the WC team...especially Wolfe.
How about Theobald & Atiba Charles?
Well as everyone knows he constantly picks Makan Hislop...who was our number 1 CB(according to Maturana)..up to the USA away game..SM if you don't want say I will say it. HE IS SHIT. The man slow , cyar mark and doesn't even use his height and size properly. Watch how much shit he does do when making a defensive header. Many times he will mistime his jump and fail to connect with the ball. Look at how often he gets caught ball watching.
I wouldnt say he is shit but he doesnt deserve his starting spot... he slightly improved under Maturana..but to the level of a sub CB at best
BTW ! what ever happened to this fella triniinfinite?? is he still with us?Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
i myself would love to hear why maturana is a bad pick myself? ??? based on what?
God is de BOSS....
BTW ! what ever happened to this fella triniinfinite?? is he still with us?Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
i myself would love to hear why maturana is a bad pick myself? ??? based on what?
God is de BOSS....
BTW What a big mistake hiring that coach! if we wanted an comebol coach it would've been better if it was lavolpe or zagalo instead.
seriously, was he banned?BTW ! what ever happened to this fella triniinfinite?? is he still with us?Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
i myself would love to hear why maturana is a bad pick myself? ??? based on what?
God is de BOSS....
BTW What a big mistake hiring that coach! if we wanted an comebol coach it would've been better if it was lavolpe or zagalo instead.
me eh know... but he was always trying to be a CONTROVERSIAL fella
seriously, was he banned?BTW ! what ever happened to this fella triniinfinite?? is he still with us?Maturana is no good. Bad Pick for T&T. Wim might have been better. Or even Bruce Arena.
i myself would love to hear why maturana is a bad pick myself? ??? based on what?
God is de BOSS....
BTW What a big mistake hiring that coach! if we wanted an comebol coach it would've been better if it was lavolpe or zagalo instead.
me eh know... but he was always trying to be a CONTROVERSIAL fella
seriously, was he banned?
me eh know... but he was always trying to be a CONTROVERSIAL fella
Breds is long time i hearing omaraldino calling assrancid (true trini) and controversial( TI ) but i thought he was ready too much into it, it's not that i slow, but rather , i didn't believe the hype. oh well, i guess i will have to reconsider. thanx . positive.seriously, was he banned?
me eh know... but he was always trying to be a CONTROVERSIAL fella
Oh god jus cool... read between de lines nah... de man is still among us
Emergency meeting in 7 days ::) ::)
I guess it betta than nothing
'Smoking Mirrors'...................If the powers to be are serious about doing something, they will not wait until April 09th. Meeting should have been done today and the post morterm decisions should happen promptly.
Guess it's because Mr Warner is going to be in Egypt for the next few days.
'Smoking Mirrors'...................If the powers to be are serious about doing something, they will not wait until April 09th. Meeting should have been done today and the post morterm decisions should happen promptly.
'Smoking Mirrors'...................If the powers to be are serious about doing something, they will not wait until April 09th. Meeting should have been done today and the post morterm decisions should happen promptly.Their decision will be made by Sunday...at this point they just trying to save face for Maturana which looks like time wasting but they are really assesing their options for a foreign coach as well.
'Smoking Mirrors'...................If the powers to be are serious about doing something, they will not wait until April 09th. Meeting should have been done today and the post morterm decisions should happen promptly.Their decision will be made by Sunday...at this point they just trying to save face for Maturana which looks like time wasting but they are really assesing their options for a foreign coach as well.
'Smoking Mirrors'...................If the powers to be are serious about doing something, they will not wait until April 09th. Meeting should have been done today and the post morterm decisions should happen promptly.Their decision will be made by Sunday...at this point they just trying to save face for Maturana which looks like time wasting but they are really assesing their options for a foreign coach as well.
'Smoking Mirrors'...................If the powers to be are serious about doing something, they will not wait until April 09th. Meeting should have been done today and the post morterm decisions should happen promptly.Their decision will be made by Sunday...at this point they just trying to save face for Maturana which looks like time wasting but they are really assesing their options for a foreign coach as well.
All yuh, this is Jack style. He is giving himself 7 days to find the new coach. He is just waiting to be sure who the next coach is and then he will announce that Maturana is fired and name the new coach. At least that is my prayer fro the next seven days! Now Maturana should jump be he is pushed off the cliff.
Jack busy trying to make a new newspaper headline for the UNC. so he cant meet earlier.Emergency meeting in 7 days ::) ::)
I guess it betta than nothing
Emergency and u wait till thu.
He could send Mats ah text from Egypt....ent dats de way everybody communicating these days
Allyuh people real simple when allyuh ready dred. Yuh don't fire somebody unless yuh already have somebody in line to replace them. The next seven days (assuming the decision has already been made with Maturana) will be spent in negotiations with the candidate/s for the national job.I am sorry, I kinda out ah the loop on this Fenwick and Jack argument. Why does Jack don't like Fenwick? I think that Fenwick can do a good job with our players, he knows them well and after reading his comments about Mataruna and those subs, it's clear Fenwick is very educated on our players. Also if for some reason he is offered the job, will he have to quit Jabloteh or can he keep that job while being the national coach?
God-willing de Angel Gabriel heself come down with ah stone tablet with Fenwick name on it... because he's de man we need, he's the man who capable at this juncture... and Lord knows it will take an act of God for Jack to see past the petty disagreements to give him the job.
What Fenwick do to make yuh feel that? Win Pro league? What else has he done to make yuh feel he is the man to do the job as international coach?
Jabloteh does play a nice brand a football and Fenwick does bring out the best in the youngsters on that team. He passionate about the winning if he could lick down opposing players when he losing lol ;DWhat Fenwick do to make yuh feel that? Win Pro league? What else has he done to make yuh feel he is the man to do the job as international coach?
my sentiments exactly, steve hart is the man for the job, led canada, played in tt, knows all the top players and is a real good coach, fenwick couldnt even make in england and i honestly dont think he will bring a brand of football better than maturana, maturana was a decent coach against latin countries, his short passing style is exactly what we needed... there are 2 ways to look at this, was losing to the US already in the cards, i see people totally avoiding that persepctive.
What Fenwick do to make yuh feel that? Win Pro league? What else has he done to make yuh feel he is the man to do the job as international coach?
If we get 4th spot with Fenwick ,I wonder if hes good enough to get us pass the South Americans with this team ?
"Face the music", alyuh mean turn off the damm music. >:( The party done, go home. Good night. :(what
Maturana was on my flight from Nashville to Atlanta, so was Latas and the local based except for Akile Edwards.. Ince was also on the flight....Obviously the airport or worse yet the airplane ain't no place to get pissed at the man, but boy was I tempted...
since the game i havent heard a press conference from maturana himself talking about the game on wednesday. did i miss something or he just dont care to give an explanation as to the shit that was displayed in nashville?
Latas cannot be head coach as yet, I prefer Terry Fenwick.
Emergency, Emergency !!!!! somebody help meh...
Maturana must face the music
By Lasana Liburd (T&T Express)
At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
Wait.Maturana must face the music
By Lasana Liburd (T&T Express)
At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
So yuh mean Akile eh even a left back? Nex ting dis man get tie up and call de wrong edwards.
And anyhow..allyuh hadda admit Pacho never was respected..he was like a enuch since he reach. Yeah it disrespectful you here so long you eh learn english..still hadda rely on translator...buh.....de man was a puppet right thru. De man say he eh want latas on de coaching staff he want him on de field.....Jack tell de man HHMC and latas is assistant coach. A wrong ting is a wrong ting..and dat eh right to do to any coach. Man salt theobald for giving stern the captains armband...yeh i go say de length of time was a bit extreme...buh.....he was never allowed full respect and control in my view. And he eh help with he zigzag approach at all. Personally for me....dat latas ting woulda be de last straw....and dahs wha he musbe doing..he eh care again...why should he.....let dem do wha dey want....once dey fire him dey hadda pay out he contract....once dey keep him dey payin him...so let dem reap wha dey sow.
All yuh, this is Jack style. He is giving himself 7 days to find the new coach. He is just waiting to be sure who the next coach is and then he will announce that Maturana is fired and name the new coach. At least that is my prayer fro the next seven days! Now Maturana should jump be he is pushed off the cliff.
At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
What is it you really trying to say?don't make this thing more complicated than it really is nah,in other words forget the assumption.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
I assuming dat he means a left wing...and a left back. a wingback is a left back....but overlaps. buh....edwards cyar afford to overlap with keon on dat flank..cuz dahs zero help. In one of the training videos in Nashville....i saw a part where edwards was pushing up in the scrimmage.....now...it seeming more plausible.
What is it you really trying to say?don't make this thing more complicated than it really is nah,in other words forget the assumption.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
I assuming dat he means a left wing...and a left back. a wingback is a left back....but overlaps. buh....edwards cyar afford to overlap with keon on dat flank..cuz dahs zero help. In one of the training videos in Nashville....i saw a part where edwards was pushing up in the scrimmage.....now...it seeming more plausible.
Thanks :beermug:What is it you really trying to say?don't make this thing more complicated than it really is nah,in other words forget the assumption.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
I assuming dat he means a left wing...and a left back. a wingback is a left back....but overlaps. buh....edwards cyar afford to overlap with keon on dat flank..cuz dahs zero help. In one of the training videos in Nashville....i saw a part where edwards was pushing up in the scrimmage.....now...it seeming more plausible.
Well i assuming defense force employs two persons named edwards on de left.....with different roles. One with more defensive responsibilities than the other. And.....seems like somebody get tie up with who doing what.
Men does use full back and wing back interchangeably on here, but me eh want to correct nobody. But as far as I understand, a wing back is a more advanced player in a defensive 5-3-2/3-5-2 system. They play further up the field more like a left wing but fall back in defence alongside 3 centre backs. Halfway between full back and winger, hence: wing back.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
Men does use full back and wing back interchangeably on here, but me eh want to correct nobody. But as far as I understand, a wing back is a more advanced player in a defensive 5-3-2/3-5-2 system. They play further up the field more like a left wing but fall back in defence alongside 3 centre backs. Halfway between full back and winger, hence: wing back.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(football)#Wingback
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41707000/gif/_41707346_wing_back_416.gif)
Men does use full back and wing back interchangeably on here, but me eh want to correct nobody. But as far as I understand, a wing back is a more advanced player in a defensive 5-3-2/3-5-2 system. They play further up the field more like a left wing but fall back in defence alongside 3 centre backs. Halfway between full back and winger, hence: wing back.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(football)#Wingback
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41707000/gif/_41707346_wing_back_416.gif)
Those wing backs would need to be real real fit, to play in that 3-5-2 system.
All but Latas on de block ;D.....Next up Latas as head coach :beermug:
i honestly dont think he will bring a brand of football better than maturana, maturana was a decent coach against latin countries, his short passing style is exactly what we neededDouble U. Tee. Eff.
:applause: :applause: :applause: i like you,doh worry with them,armchair Coaches do make sense too (common sense).Men does use full back and wing back interchangeably on here, but me eh want to correct nobody. But as far as I understand, a wing back is a more advanced player in a defensive 5-3-2/3-5-2 system. They play further up the field more like a left wing but fall back in defence alongside 3 centre backs. Halfway between full back and winger, hence: wing back.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(football)#Wingback
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41707000/gif/_41707346_wing_back_416.gif)
Those wing backs would need to be real real fit, to play in that 3-5-2 system.
Buh ent people was vex when he try de 3-5-2?
Allyuh hadda understand...we cyar get everyting.
We play 2 strikers..de midfield thin..
We play 3-5-2...de wingers eh using the width and is comess in de defense.
We play 4-5-1......dat eh how we does play...we need two strikers.....
It like rock paper scissors. Allyuh hadda understand dat. Personally...i would go with a 4-5-1.....with men who go run until dey have blood in dey socks on de wing. Buh...dahs jus me..ize a armchair coach.
Men does use full back and wing back interchangeably on here, but me eh want to correct nobody. But as far as I understand, a wing back is a more advanced player in a defensive 5-3-2/3-5-2 system. They play further up the field more like a left wing but fall back in defence alongside 3 centre backs. Halfway between full back and winger, hence: wing back.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(football)#Wingback
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41707000/gif/_41707346_wing_back_416.gif)
Those wing backs would need to be real real fit, to play in that 3-5-2 system.
Lord ah need to stay away from this site today.....however, just heard on I95.5fm that TTFF has brought their meeting forward by one day and Terry Fenwick was on record as saying he is interested in the job....stay tuned....ok ah not posting again for the rest of the day.....(I hope.. ;D)
Lord ah need to stay away from this site today.....however, just heard on I95.5fm that TTFF has brought their meeting forward by one day and Terry Fenwick was on record as saying he is interested in the job....stay tuned....ok ah not posting again for the rest of the day.....(I hope.. ;D)
i would go with a 4-5-1.....with men who go run until dey have blood in dey socks on de wing. Buh...dahs jus me..ize a armchair coach.
Whoever we hire, be it Fenwick, Lata's, SH......or flippin Sven (as he out ah wuk), as long as dey show that some thought has been put into our squad selection, starting XI, tactics and they get a bit more effort out of our players, I will support them. Afroman has always given me the impression that he dosen't genuinely believe we have a chance of qualifying, and also thinks Trinbagonians are just a bunch of happy go lucky people who have ah "Oh Well!" mentality to failure. He just not serious enough, He is just going through the motions of being a coach with us. If he was serious I can't imagine some of the things he been doing would have happened.
STOREBOY..plz explain how "WIM Play de fool"
Does anybody have any suggestions about which quality coach is available for the job???
I just concerned about Latas from this point of view: Didn't he just give up "a lot" at Falkirk to join de Warriors coaching staff. So with the possible introduction of a new coach, way dat leave Latas now. I just hope he don't get left by d wayside and have to go back Falkirk with he tail between he legs. But yuh know what, he shoulda know better dealin with Jack. I just hope Latas eh left out butt naked in d cold.
I just concerned about Latas from this point of view: Didn't he just give up "a lot" at Falkirk to join de Warriors coaching staff. So with the possible introduction of a new coach, way dat leave Latas now. I just hope he don't get left by d wayside and have to go back Falkirk with he tail between he legs. But yuh know what, he shoulda know better dealin with Jack. I just hope Latas eh left out butt naked in d cold.
I just concerned about Latas from this point of view: Didn't he just give up "a lot" at Falkirk to join de Warriors coaching staff. So with the possible introduction of a new coach, way dat leave Latas now. I just hope he don't get left by d wayside and have to go back Falkirk with he tail between he legs. But yuh know what, he shoulda know better dealin with Jack. I just hope Latas eh left out butt naked in d cold.
I was thinking the same thing. :-\ That go be a real sad story. :(
incitethe message was ok but the mode was kinda negative
–verb (used with object), -cit⋅ed, -cit⋅ing.
to stir, encourage, or urge on; stimulate or prompt to action: to incite a crowd to riot.
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imagine we team just get embarassed and they have to hold a meeting to fire this joker .... Why don't he just resign and done ....... quit nuh man >:( .. I think he see trinis as chupid people .. he lorse to bermuda and still have wuk we out get knock ah the digicel and he still have wuk....
while Sven get scaked in honduras .... Even burrell fire simoes in honduras also!! he went straight to brazil from honduras ...
maturana should have been boarding a flight to bogota or cali colombia after that game
imagine we team just get embarassed and they have to hold a meeting to fire this joker .... Why don't he just resign and done ....... quit nuh man >:( .. I think he see trinis as chupid people .. he lorse to bermuda and still have wuk we out get knock ah the digicel and he still have wuk....
while Sven get scaked in honduras .... Even burrell fire simoes in honduras also!! he went straight to brazil from honduras ...
maturana should have been boarding a flight to bogota or cali colombia after that game
mods allyuh do someting bout that pic ah maturana on de homepage bah,ah cyar stand to look at he,dat pic makin he look like one arrogant c**t.
Good article Lasana... harsh, but tempered at the same time. Very good.
The Escobar reference was unfortunate though... that could have been left alone.
(unlikely that something like that would ever happen... but you never know, no need to give anyone ideas.)
How about this guyI would love that trust meh, but i don't think we stand ah chance in landing him. plus wim would warn him about working for jack.
(http://www.elpais.com/recorte/20071013elpepudep_3/LCO340/Ies/Frank_Rijkaard.jpg) ;D
Just as Juande Ramos' lack of knowledge of the English game was a contributing factor in his spectacular failure in England, so to Francisco Maturana's lack of knowledge of Concacaf teams and his failure or unwillingness to scout our opponents and relay the information(once again the language barrier comes into play) on each of their players and a game plan to our team allowed USA to walk all over us, and Landon Donovan and Jozy Altidore to run ole mas, without receiving the special attention a proper game plan would have called for. Perhaps the team's utter lack of organisation and Maturana's failure to select our best players and best team is partly caused by a (or many) breakdown in communication because of the language barrier.( Giving Maturana the benefit of the doubt here, lol)
Just as Juande Ramos' lack of knowledge of the English game was a contributing factor in his spectacular failure in England, so to Francisco Maturana's lack of knowledge of Concacaf teams and his failure or unwillingness to scout our opponents and relay the information(once again the language barrier comes into play) on each of their players and a game plan to our team allowed USA to walk all over us, and Landon Donovan and Jozy Altidore to run ole mas, without receiving the special attention a proper game plan would have called for. Perhaps the team's utter lack of organisation and Maturana's failure to select our best players and best team is partly caused by a (or many) breakdown in communication because of the language barrier.( Giving Maturana the benefit of the doubt here, lol)
So u seriously think that Maturana didnt scout our opposition? lol
Come on man!! This is taking it too far!! All teams in the HEX are properly scouted, its just in some cases, the players didnt execute!
Maturana's decisions more often than not tend to baffle me, but do u have an idea what his record is as Trinidad and Tobago coach? Surf the net and learn that England and Bermuda (in that one off anomally match) are the only teams to get the better of us in 20 games at home.
Ramos time at Tottenham was a nightmare, not Maturana's time here.
We went to Cuba and beat them there 3-1, while USA won 1-0 and Guatemala lost 2-1.
We went to a place where we lost 5-1 in the last campaign but this time we drew 0-0 with ten men.
Our record against Central American teams has improved significantly, and quite frankly, they will be our competition in the HEX, not the USA.
No one gives Maturana credit for anythnig!! We played El Salvador off the park in the first match (first 70 mins) and there was no Lasana Libird article commenting about that, especially as it was in a place that we normally lose.
When the team does well, its because of Latas and Yorke's imput, but when they lose or dont play well, fire de coach....lol.
At this stage in the last campaign, we played two games at home and one away and had only one point.
In this campaign, we played one game at home and two away and have 2 points.
If we analyze it further, The games we lost in the last campaign was against USA home and Guatemala away (one of our direct rivals for a spot), while we drew against Costa Rica at home (another direct rival)
In this campaign we lost to USA away (who will beat everyone at home) and drew with El Salvador away (direct rival) and Honduras (direct rival).
Is this such a bad situation to be in? Knowing fully well that we would have been in third place if Dwight and Stern didnt swap penalty roles in El Salvador? OR is that Maturana's fault as well.
ah love it!!
nb: Let it be known that i am not a fan of this Columbian born TT coach.
The only thing you got wrong is he started laying eggs way before he landed at Piarco International ,hes being fired by lots of ppl over the last few yrs fans hate him in many places .Yeah. People keep talking bout this great reputation he have. He had success with Colombia, but his reputation otherwise is shit. Dem Costa Ricans on BigSoccer was warning us bout Pacho, offering sympathy and shit.
Is this such a bad situation to be in? Knowing fully well that we would have been in third place if Dwight and Stern didnt swap penalty roles in El Salvador? OR is that Maturana's fault as well.
What is it you really trying to say?don't make this thing more complicated than it really is nah,in other words forget the assumption.At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I a little confused here. What's the difference between left back and left wing back?
I assuming dat he means a left wing...and a left back. a wingback is a left back....but overlaps. buh....edwards cyar afford to overlap with keon on dat flank..cuz dahs zero help. In one of the training videos in Nashville....i saw a part where edwards was pushing up in the scrimmage.....now...it seeming more plausible.
At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
At the other flank, Maturana persists with Defence Force player Aklie Edwards although the regiment team clearly consider his namesake, Michael Edwards, to be the better defender-Defence Force coach Kerry Jamerson used Edwards (M) at left back and Edwards (A) at left wing back last season.
I have said it in the past and now Lasana confirm it.
Aklie is a left wing or better in that position.
Is this such a bad situation to be in? Knowing fully well that we would have been in third place if Dwight and Stern didnt swap penalty roles in El Salvador? OR is that Maturana's fault as well.
Bollocks!!
There was no guarantee that Dwight would have scored if he took that penalty instead of Stern!
And so it goes sometimes with penalties, sometimes penalties are missed by the best of players for a variety of factors!
The real reason we lost that game was because of massive coaching blunders!
After Stern’s penalty miss we were still 2 goals up afterall. All that was required was to change strategy from there on and defend a comfortable 2 goal cushion with less than 15 minutes to go! What does Maturana do? We bring on 2 fresh attackers rather than the logical and safe thing which is to bring on 2 fresh defenders, close up shop & resort to ball possession to run down the clock!
No one to blame but the coach for that lost period!
We would have been on at least 4 points right now and his job would have been safe but the positive I see in how things have transpired is that we will hopefully see the back of Maturana by this Thursday which should drastically better our chances of making it to SA2010 next year and us doing the Caribbean region proud once we get there!
Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.@ LEAST HE'S NOT GOING TO BE COACHING THE SENIOR TEAM RIGHT ? i telling allyuh now , if this man remain in this senior team job, then i not following this hex or national football until he and maybe even jack leave we football alone.
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
Have a drink or two lady..... breathe.
But anyhoo, last nite I had a wierd dream (must be the anaesthesia and the painkillers still in my system) I dream we organise a mail campaign to Jack. The letters were sent to the main office (whatever the address is an on each envelope was written
Mr. Jack Warner,
Whatever the address is,
ATTN: FIRE MATURANA NOW
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I wake up an still remembered the dream. The point is Just cool has a good idea. Flood the office (or Jack house) with phone calls, letters, emails, placcards, heck somebody find out how much it is to take out a billboard on the highway. Beg one of them radio stations to organise a "Honk at noon if you want a new coach day" Car rally an have a set of cars driving up an down outside HQ. I for one even though I living foreign, wouldnt mind sending a postcard or two or five.
Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
i being real! if we can't get 1,000 ppl tuh march on the TTFF head quarters and infront the ministry of sports , den we as fans DON'T derserve another World Cup! and we derserve everything we get from jack and maturana!
T&T have tuh have @ 1,000 strong fans who is willing tuh take ah half day in protest of our football!!
why someone from the warrior nation can't organize ah protest! get someone in the radio station tuh anounce it and get the true fans out for ah 4 hrs while dem clown decide the faith of maturana!
why should we leave it in their hand! it's high time the fans have ah serious voice! and i will go as far as to say , if i lived in trini, i would've tried tuh organize ah protest even if it failed , i would've @ least tried. common allyuh, show some heart nah man. and i doh want tuh hear no lazy talk! YES WE FORKIN CAN!! positive.
Tallman, WestCoast or Eman:
I need allyuh help. A few months ago, Brownsugar made a post I would like to see on this thread. Alas, I cannot find the post. Could somebody find it for me, if possible and it's not too much trouble?
She exhorted the powers that be to get rid of Maturana - :beermug: - because she was convinced he wasn't going to take us anywhere and they shouldn't wait until it actually happpens.
That post was succinct, descriptive and right on the money. I would like Brownsugar to reread that post. Her words helped prepare me for the situation we are in today.
Respect Brownsugar!
"Don't Sweat The Small Stuff... and it's all small stuff"
Richard Carlson
well i went through all BrownSugar's posts and found this one?
is this the one you were after?I didn't plan to come on here tonight....ah thought ah would sleep off de nightmare and come on tomorrow....but ah addicted to dis forum too much....
Anywho, after what I see with mih own 2 eyes today.....unless Maturana and dem know something me ent know....we not going no flecking where!!!...
First thing....we defence shaky no arse with 4 men in it, but yuh start with a 3-5-2 formation?? have we ever tried that system in the friendlies we've had recently?? If no, why PLAY DAT SYSTEM 2DAY??!!......and de players just looking out of sorts between Lawrence and Hislop...
Den de #7 for Bermuda - Ming - we had no answer for he....and he was just one player of the Bermudian team who had real fight and hustle and thing......wha happen nobody scout de Bermudians??!!!....
Den de Bermudians fighting we for EVERY ball....our players.....dem escorting men into we area....and when dey not doing dat, dey giving dem acres of space....We had no creative spark in midfield to move the play forward.....no ideas when we have de ball.....players not supporting each other, for example, at one point Carlos bringing in the ball...he coming up against defenders and he still trying to get in the box to score and NOT ONE PLAYER ARRIVE TO HELP DE MAN.....NOT ONE....
Look.....steups...thank God I went Germany yes.....I have mih memories to keep mih till when friggin ever.....
:'( :'( >:( >:( :banginghead: :banginghead: :frustrated: :frustrated: :'( :'( >:(
Tallman, WestCoast or Eman:
I need allyuh help. A few months ago, Brownsugar made a post I would like to see on this thread. Alas, I cannot find the post. Could somebody find it for me, if possible and it's not too much trouble?
She exhorted the powers that be to get rid of Maturana - :beermug: - because she was convinced he wasn't going to take us anywhere and they shouldn't wait until it actually happpens.
That post was succinct, descriptive and right on the money. I would like Brownsugar to reread that post. Her words helped prepare me for the situation we are in today.
Respect Brownsugar!
"Don't Sweat The Small Stuff... and it's all small stuff"
Richard Carlson
Yuh see me....I watch enough games with this man as coach to be able to judge for mih self dat the team only seems to play well when we professionals around. Other than that Maturana/Corneal doh seem to have a f*(&%ng clue....de two ah dem cyar inpsire no kinda confidence in mih that dem know what dey doing....
I doh have no more patience.....Bermuda first, now Grenada (in de space of 6 months to boot!!..steups) ....nah man.....
MATURANA MUST GO!!!.....
well i went through all BrownSugar's posts and found this one?
is this the one you were after?
Nice try a$$hole!! :P :devil:Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
i being real! if we can't get 1,000 ppl tuh march on the TTFF head quarters and infront the ministry of sports , den we as fans DON'T derserve another World Cup! and we derserve everything we get from jack and maturana!
T&T have tuh have @ 1,000 strong fans who is willing tuh take ah half day in protest of our football!!
why someone from the warrior nation can't organize ah protest! get someone in the radio station tuh anounce it and get the true fans out for ah 4 hrs while dem clown decide the faith of maturana!
why should we leave it in their hand! it's high time the fans have ah serious voice! and i will go as far as to say , if i lived in trini, i would've tried tuh organize ah protest even if it failed , i would've @ least tried. common allyuh, show some heart nah man. and i doh want tuh hear no lazy talk! YES WE FORKIN CAN!! positive.
Why? Is jus a game.
Seriously!!!well i went through all BrownSugar's posts and found this one?Do you have a life?
is this the one you were after?
Seriously?
Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
hear me nah, yuh cross dressing NY transplant!Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
FYI i liked the dutch coach and appreciated his input especially when dealing wid dem lazy backward complaisant morons in T&T football , and though he may have been voicerous and insulting @ times @ least he told the truth!
Nice try a$$hole!! :P :devil:Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
i being real! if we can't get 1,000 ppl tuh march on the TTFF head quarters and infront the ministry of sports , den we as fans DON'T derserve another World Cup! and we derserve everything we get from jack and maturana!
T&T have tuh have @ 1,000 strong fans who is willing tuh take ah half day in protest of our football!!
why someone from the warrior nation can't organize ah protest! get someone in the radio station tuh anounce it and get the true fans out for ah 4 hrs while dem clown decide the faith of maturana!
why should we leave it in their hand! it's high time the fans have ah serious voice! and i will go as far as to say , if i lived in trini, i would've tried tuh organize ah protest even if it failed , i would've @ least tried. common allyuh, show some heart nah man. and i doh want tuh hear no lazy talk! YES WE FORKIN CAN!! positive.
Why? Is jus a game.
hear me nah, yuh cross dressing NY transplant!Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
FYI i liked the dutch coach and appreciated his input especially when dealing wid dem lazy backward complaisant morons in T&T football , and though he may have been voicerous and insulting @ times @ least he told the truth!
The jb of a coach is not to say the players eh ready.....its his job to get them ready!
If he finds certain players eh good, pick others....if he cannot do the jo, then either he resigns or is fired.
let Wim haul he nasty c**t...ah cocnut should buss he ehad....Thats my taughts (sp on purpose)
Wham sar ! yuh just come from seance ah what?? take it easy breds, all i saying is i never had no beef wid wim. :beermug:hear me nah, yuh cross dressing NY transplant!Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
FYI i liked the dutch coach and appreciated his input especially when dealing wid dem lazy backward complaisant morons in T&T football , and though he may have been voicerous and insulting @ times @ least he told the truth!
The jb of a coach is not to say the players eh ready.....its his job to get them ready!
If he finds certain players eh good, pick others....if he cannot do the jo, then either he resigns or is fired.
let Wim haul he nasty c**t...ah cocnut should buss he ehad....Thats my taughts (sp on purpose)
hear me nah, yuh cross dressing NY transplant!Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
FYI i liked the dutch coach and appreciated his input especially when dealing wid dem lazy backward complaisant morons in T&T football , and though he may have been voicerous and insulting @ times @ least he told the truth!
The jb of a coach is not to say the players eh ready.....its his job to get them ready!
If he finds certain players eh good, pick others....if he cannot do the jo, then either he resigns or is fired.
let Wim haul he nasty c**t...ah cocnut should buss he ehad....Thats my taughts (sp on purpose)
And...to get them ready..he needs full cooperation of all persons involved. Meaning pro league..TTFF...everybody. And still he was doing a better job dan Pacho. Or yuh find Pacho is a improvement?
Wham sar ! yuh just come from seance ah what?? take it easy breds, all i saying is i never had no beef wid wim. :beermug:hear me nah, yuh cross dressing NY transplant!Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
FYI i liked the dutch coach and appreciated his input especially when dealing wid dem lazy backward complaisant morons in T&T football , and though he may have been voicerous and insulting @ times @ least he told the truth!
The job of a coach is not to say the players eh ready.....its his job to get them ready!
If he finds certain players eh good, pick others....if he cannot do the job, then either he resigns or is fired.
let Wim haul he nasty c**t...ah coconut should buss he ehad....Thats my taughts (sp on purpose)
Seriously!!!Why do you waste your time with me? Because you have nothing but time on your hands... yuh f**kin loser. I bet your laptop surgically attached tuh yuh elbows... world's first homosexual android. Why yuh doh log tuh f**k off and see if yuh could scare yuhself up a life yuh pansy-ass cunnie. Don't you have some little retarded child or some homeless person to hug?
seriously???
if Tallman or E-Man had found the post that Victor was looking for you would have kept ya mangy dog self quite wid ya tail between ya legs
ring ring ring
go off now and start to cuss and call me names and do what ever ya have to do to give yourself your jollies
why do i even waste my time wid you
this is the last
Then why bother to do anything if you're not passionate about it! and there's a thin line between caring and plain ole laziness.Nice try a$$hole!! :P :devil:Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
i being real! if we can't get 1,000 ppl tuh march on the TTFF head quarters and infront the ministry of sports , den we as fans DON'T derserve another World Cup! and we derserve everything we get from jack and maturana!
T&T have tuh have @ 1,000 strong fans who is willing tuh take ah half day in protest of our football!!
why someone from the warrior nation can't organize ah protest! get someone in the radio station tuh anounce it and get the true fans out for ah 4 hrs while dem clown decide the faith of maturana!
why should we leave it in their hand! it's high time the fans have ah serious voice! and i will go as far as to say , if i lived in trini, i would've tried tuh organize ah protest even if it failed , i would've @ least tried. common allyuh, show some heart nah man. and i doh want tuh hear no lazy talk! YES WE FORKIN CAN!! positive.
Why? Is jus a game.
It have a degree of seriousness in it. At what point is caring too much?
Breds my crossdressing is ah secret thing, why yuh putting meh business in the streets? ;DWham sar ! yuh just come from seance ah what?? take it easy breds, all i saying is i never had no beef wid wim. :beermug:hear me nah, yuh cross dressing NY transplant!Why you always mixing me up wid TT and fishes! i never said anything negative about wim , or replied to the statement when he put his foot in his mouth for the umpteen time.Maybe Wim was right .. the locals not ready.MAYBE??!! RIGHT AS 2+2= 4. THEM YUTES NOT READY AND OUR LEAGUE NOT READY!
Is not me .... is Wim say so :-[ :-[
I taught is just dat he was dissin we and we hobby 2 swing under coconut trees.
FYI i liked the dutch coach and appreciated his input especially when dealing wid dem lazy backward complaisant morons in T&T football , and though he may have been voicerous and insulting @ times @ least he told the truth!
The job of a coach is not to say the players eh ready.....its his job to get them ready!
If he finds certain players eh good, pick others....if he cannot do the job, then either he resigns or is fired.
let Wim haul he nasty c**t...ah coconut should buss he ehad....Thats my taughts (sp on purpose)
yuh still wearing yuh girdle or yuh take it off, i still have mines on..de one with de rossettes on it. :)
Dat still eh answer my question. At what point is it too much passion? At what point yuh going too far with being damn vex. I seriously asking.Then why bother to do anything if you're not passionate about it! and there's a thin line between caring and plain ole laziness.Nice try a$$hole!! :P :devil:Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
i being real! if we can't get 1,000 ppl tuh march on the TTFF head quarters and infront the ministry of sports , den we as fans DON'T derserve another World Cup! and we derserve everything we get from jack and maturana!
T&T have tuh have @ 1,000 strong fans who is willing tuh take ah half day in protest of our football!!
why someone from the warrior nation can't organize ah protest! get someone in the radio station tuh anounce it and get the true fans out for ah 4 hrs while dem clown decide the faith of maturana!
why should we leave it in their hand! it's high time the fans have ah serious voice! and i will go as far as to say , if i lived in trini, i would've tried tuh organize ah protest even if it failed , i would've @ least tried. common allyuh, show some heart nah man. and i doh want tuh hear no lazy talk! YES WE FORKIN CAN!! positive.
Why? Is jus a game.
It have a degree of seriousness in it. At what point is caring too much?
so who biting pillow and why? is it pain dat does cause yuh tuh bite down on something? And why dis Pavlov fella getting pain?Seriously!!!Why do you waste your time with me? Because you have nothing but time on your hands... yuh f**kin loser. I bet your laptop surgically attached tuh yuh elbows... world's first homosexual android. Why yuh doh log tuh f**k off and see if yuh could scare yuhself up a life yuh pansy-ass cunnie. Don't you have some little retarded child or some homeless person to hug?
seriously???
if Tallman or E-Man had found the post that Victor was looking for you would have kept ya mangy dog self quite wid ya tail between ya legs
ring ring ring
go off now and start to cuss and call me names and do what ever ya have to do to give yourself your jollies
why do i even waste my time wid you
this is the last
Bitch-ass pillow biter.
The only thing you got wrong is he started laying eggs way before he landed at Piarco International ,hes being fired by lots of ppl over the last few yrs fans hate him in many places .Yeah. People keep talking bout this great reputation he have. He had success with Colombia, but his reputation otherwise is shit. Dem Costa Ricans on BigSoccer was warning us bout Pacho, offering sympathy and shit.
OK breds , right now i'm seriously confused! i don't get your drift. let me go over this. first= i pleaded with the local based tuh organize a protest before or during the hearing on wednesday, i then encouraged them tuh make an effort BC nothing that's worth having comes easy, then i implore them not to take the lazy approach, and toped it of with the cliche"YES WE CAN"!Dat still eh answer my question. At what point is it too much passion? At what point yuh going too far with being damn vex. I seriously asking.Then why bother to do anything if you're not passionate about it! and there's a thin line between caring and plain ole laziness.Nice try a$$hole!! :P :devil:Yuh know something!! and forgive meh local forumites for what i'm about to say, but allyuh down dey cyar organize ah protest for ah few hours? ah mean nothing in the life does come easy! if we say we love we football and we willing tuh die for it , then why we can't organize ah protest in front the TTFF office on tuesday!!! why we trini's so complaisant boy??D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
Miss lady ah eh no mood for bad jokes eh....where you hear dat??.... >:(
well if he aint going we aint going SA simple as that, once he there fork that
I goh have to seriously consider ah one woman boycott of future games...we eh friggin serious nah, but let me wait on Weary's response before ah get even more vex!!!....... >:(
i being real! if we can't get 1,000 ppl tuh march on the TTFF head quarters and infront the ministry of sports , den we as fans DON'T derserve another World Cup! and we derserve everything we get from jack and maturana!
T&T have tuh have @ 1,000 strong fans who is willing tuh take ah half day in protest of our football!!
why someone from the warrior nation can't organize ah protest! get someone in the radio station tuh anounce it and get the true fans out for ah 4 hrs while dem clown decide the faith of maturana!
why should we leave it in their hand! it's high time the fans have ah serious voice! and i will go as far as to say , if i lived in trini, i would've tried tuh organize ah protest even if it failed , i would've @ least tried. common allyuh, show some heart nah man. and i doh want tuh hear no lazy talk! YES WE FORKIN CAN!! positive.
Why? Is jus a game.
It have a degree of seriousness in it. At what point is caring too much?
looks like I am going to have to manipulate the stimuliSeriously!!!Why do you waste your time with me? Because you have nothing but time on your hands... yuh f**kin loser. I bet your laptop surgically attached tuh yuh elbows... world's first homosexual android. Why yuh doh log tuh f**k off and see if yuh could scare yuhself up a life yuh pansy-ass cunnie. Don't you have some little retarded child or some homeless person to hug?
seriously???
if Tallman or E-Man had found the post that Victor was looking for you would have kept ya mangy dog self quite wid ya tail between ya legs
ring ring ring
go off now and start to cuss and call me names and do what ever ya have to do to give yourself your jollies
why do i even waste my time wid you
this is the last
Bitch-ass pillow biter.
looks like I am going to have to manipulate the stimuli
SIT BOO BOO SIT
tut tut tut
bad bitch
ADDENDUM:
This place is THE BEST
no wonder I cant saty away
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
it is uncany how predictable you arelooks like I am going to have to manipulate the stimuli
SIT BOO BOO SIT
tut tut tut
bad bitch
ADDENDUM:
This place is THE BEST
no wonder I cant saty away
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
"BOO BOO"... yuh think is de mangy flea-bitten bitch yuh does be lying down with yuh talking too or what? Posted at 10:00 am... edited at 11:06 am. Yuh had ah hour and 6 minutes to think about it and yuh still come back with something lame and corny. Is "UBU" yuh dunce nannyhole. Grown f**king loser of a man... 56 years old and what yuh doing with yuhself... f**king internet champion... link poster extraordinaire.
Like de f**kking song say Paul yuh mudder c**t.
it is uncany how predictable you are
dem judges go love you
anywho
do ya ting man
oh by the way here is ya next stimuli
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2007/04/09/rc-vibrating-lingerie/
make sure you share with your internet friends
...I am the one that fu#ked up last night. And, as senior members of this board, any one of you could have called me out.
Pavlov,Victor,
Last night I put my foot in my mouth, and you tried to help me out. I have been reading this message board long enough to know that's the kind of fella you are. That's why I mentioned your name when I requested help to find the post, BIG MISTAKE.
Frankly, I don't like what's happening bet'w you, Bakes and TT. I don't know what happened bet'w you guys. I also don't know if you are personal friends and something brought this on. It's obvious,though, Bakes & TT are upset about something.
I implore the three of you, WestCoast, TrueTrini and Bake & Shark, to work out your differences and be courteous to each other. If you don't have the desire to reconcile your differences at least stop attacking each other unnecessarily. I am the one that fu#ked up last night. And, as senior members of this board, any one of you could have called me out.
Each one of you is unique, smart and capable of making your arguments w/o disrespecting each other. ALLYUH STOP NAH, PLEASE!!!
I have to go to the barber now, so I will not be reading the response to this post until I get back home sometime this evening.
Respect brothers!
well i went through all BrownSugar's posts and found this one?
is this the one you were after?
Do you have a life?
Seriously?
Thats ok i go handle he as I would not want you to be cursed and sworn at like how he treats womenwell i went through all BrownSugar's posts and found this one?
is this the one you were after?
Do you have a life?
Seriously?
????
??? :o
Seriously? He was trying to help......... I think.... wasn't he? Why you going on after him like that?
????
??? :o
Seriously? He was trying to help......... I think.... wasn't he? Why you going on after him like that?
Thats ok i go handle he as I would not want you to be cursed and sworn at like how he treats women
it is uncany how predictable you are
dem judges go love you
anywho
do ya ting man
oh by the way here is ya next stimuli
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2007/04/09/rc-vibrating-lingerie/
make sure you share with your internet friends
Stimulus you c**t... stimuli is plural, yuh know... like de number ah dildos yuh does take in yuh ass regular? Uncanny also has two "n"s... rhymes with 'nanny'... yuh middle name nuh. Yuh could take yuh vibrating panty and tie it on yuh head... stimulate the clit yuh have in de middle ah yuh forrid, perfectly situated so that yuh could bend over and f**k yuhself.
Only action ah bet you does get.
D tak on d ground is dat he eh goin a place so brace all yuh self.
did I say handle????Yuh might want to sit this one out... :)
??? :o
Seriously? He was trying to help......... I think.... wasn't he? Why you going on after him like that?Thats ok i go handle he as I would not want you to be cursed and sworn at like how he treats womenYeah... take for example how I treating your bitch ass. Then again woman like you love to play de victim role ent? 'Bout you go 'handle' me... you could handle anything yuh ole hen.
????
??? :o
Seriously? He was trying to help......... I think.... wasn't he? Why you going on after him like that?
Yuh might want to sit this one out... :)
Something to consider. Discussion about Maturana led to a serious debate about advisors. ne person very much in contact with the inner runnings of T&T National football, indicated that Local Advisors in many instances do not believe a foreigner should be coaching T&T Football. As a consequence their guidance are less than honest, nor is it in the interest of T&T success for obvious reasons. I cannot say this is true or untrue, but I do know several peoples have brought this point up in the past.
Is this why Latas was brought in? Does Latas himself have a good understanding on local football? The truth is with his connections, by now he should! Should Latas now take it upon himself and sit down with Maturana, isolate the other advisors and pull his cord.
I hear the rumours from a player on the squad.
Latas and Yorke duo will be announced. Latas already in charge in calling all the shots apparently, and Pacho just there collecting a pay check.
Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
If Latas and Yorke get the call...I hope the frenism thing is not true or it take a back burner to the bigger picture.
Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
Latas already in charge in calling all the shots apparently, and Pacho just there collecting a pay check.So Latas to blame for de shit performances? Hope dey eh coming to announce he in charge den.
An American coach is what we need. I saying that long time now. If we have to improve in concacaf and do some damage here and improve an american coach. And I like Arena.
I hear the rumours from a player on the squad.
Latas and Yorke duo will be announced. Latas already in charge in calling all the shots apparently, and Pacho just there collecting a pay check.
Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
If Latas and Yorke get the call...I hope the frenism thing is not true or it take a back burner to the bigger picture.
I hear the rumours from a player on the squad.
Latas and Yorke duo will be announced. Latas already in charge in calling all the shots apparently, and Pacho just there collecting a pay check.
Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
If Latas and Yorke get the call...I hope the frenism thing is not true or it take a back burner to the bigger picture.
I hear the rumours from a player on the squad.
Latas and Yorke duo will be announced. Latas already in charge in calling all the shots apparently, and Pacho just there collecting a pay check.
Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
If Latas and Yorke get the call...I hope the frenism thing is not true or it take a back burner to the bigger picture.
I hope that rumour is not true. :P Latas and Yorke to take we all the way. ??? :-\
An American coach is what we need. I saying that long time now. If we have to improve in concacaf and do some damage here and improve an american coach. And I like Arena.
Singing that song for a long time now... but peoples like the europeans....
bruce beat every team in concacaf... I would give him a call asap.
An American coach is what we need. I saying that long time now. If we have to improve in concacaf and do some damage here and improve an american coach. And I like Arena.
Singing that song for a long time now... but peoples like the europeans....
bruce beat every team in concacaf... I would give him a call asap.
Unfortunately we cannot appoint an American coach because one of our opponents in the Hex is America!
I will not trust an American coach in charge of my team when we would need to beat America at home in the return leg in order to help us attain one of the top 3 spots and so qualify for SA2010!!
An American coach is what we need. I saying that long time now. If we have to improve in concacaf and do some damage here and improve an american coach. And I like Arena.
Singing that song for a long time now... but peoples like the europeans....
bruce beat every team in concacaf... I would give him a call asap.
Unfortunately we cannot appoint an American coach because one of our opponents in the Hex is America!
I will not trust an American coach in charge of my team when we would need to beat America at home in the return leg in order to help us attain one of the top 3 spots and so qualify for SA2010!!
Breds you really think latas would pick ah team wid only 4 defenders and no right back, plus use ah forward then waste ah sub tuh bring in ah cental defender??Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
When did Kenwyne get drop? I'm sure I saw him on the field in our last 2 games!!
I know that Kenwyne didn't produce anything of much significance in his last 2 games for us but to say that he got dropped (wasn't on the field) is stretching it a bit far don't you think!
As far as I can tell Glen got dropped for the USA game due to our head coach not properly examining what striking options were needed to try to beat the USA in the USA. What was needed was a 4-5-1 formation to make up for the weaknesses in our midfield and a striker like Glen who was fast and would run at the USA defenders!
Too much rumours & ole-talk going round!!The main thing at this juncture is to get rid of Maturana, anyone else in charge will be an improvement even Latas & Yorke as inexperienced as they may be!
But lets hope we put a more experienced head coach in charge as this is the World Cup we trying to make afterall, and World Cup is not the platform for those without the right kind of coaching experience!
Not under this frienism of Latas putting Stern, Wolfe, and Theobald because them he close friends.I hear the rumours from a player on the squad.
Latas and Yorke duo will be announced. Latas already in charge in calling all the shots apparently, and Pacho just there collecting a pay check.
Apparently Cornell and Kenwyne get drop for protesting to Yorke and Latas about Stern taking the penalty and the frenism and favouritism in the team since Latas come back.
If Latas and Yorke get the call...I hope the frenism thing is not true or it take a back burner to the bigger picture.
I hope that rumour is not true. :P Latas and Yorke to take we all the way. ??? :-\
Wasn't everyone calling for Latas to be head coach to take us to the WC?
out of curiousity, when will it air?Just got confirmation, it WILL air on (Good) Friday morning 7:00 AM
Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Wednesday or Thursday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!
Buh yuh rell democratic ... ONE person? Ent is 4-5 other fans yuh say?
i did my part in flooding emails before the 9th with "maturana must go". Do your part next Email: ttff1908@yahoo.com, shaunfuentes@yahoo.com
MY bad, jes I figure it going to be hard to find EVEN one :-\Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Wednesday or Thursday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!
Buh yuh rell democratic ... ONE person? Ent is 4-5 other fans yuh say?
MY bad, jes I figure it going to be hard to find EVEN one :-\Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Wednesday or Thursday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!
Buh yuh rell democratic ... ONE person? Ent is 4-5 other fans yuh say?
i sure weary go be part ah that man
Maybe we can fly Palos down to T&T just for this occasion to add some balance, otherwise I think your work cut out to find even one person to argue for Mats to stay on and continue the Cobo brand!! :thinking:MY bad, jes I figure it going to be hard to find EVEN one :-\Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Wednesday or Thursday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!
Buh yuh rell democratic ... ONE person? Ent is 4-5 other fans yuh say?
Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Tuesday (tomorrow) or Wednesday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!been saying that the same thing
MY bad, jes I figure it going to be hard to find EVEN one :-\Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Wednesday or Thursday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!
Buh yuh rell democratic ... ONE person? Ent is 4-5 other fans yuh say?
Sounds like a lynching to me.
De fact dat Patriot want ONE person to TRY AND MAKE IT APPEAR BALANCED come straight outta de Klu Klux Klan playbook. Kangaroo Court if there ever was one. ;D
Doh worry bout de hypocrisy nah Patriot....jes lynch and get it over wit nah man!.. 8)
By de way....ah would like a HONEST answer from yuh on dis one breddrin.
Were you willing to fire him after de 3-1 victory in Cuba?
Remember...ah say HONEST! De TRUTH, De WHOLE TRUTH, and NUTTING BUT DE TRUTH...so help you whoever or whatever yuh believe in.
Thanx ;D
Sounds like a lynching to me.
De fact dat Patriot want ONE person to TRY AND MAKE IT APPEAR BALANCED come straight outta de Klu Klux Klan playbook. Kangaroo Court if there ever was one. ;D
Doh worry bout de hypocrisy nah Patriot....jes lynch and get it over wit nah man!.. 8)
By de way....ah would like a HONEST answer from yuh on dis one breddrin.
Were you willing to fire him after de 3-1 victory in Cuba?
Remember...ah say HONEST! De TRUTH, De WHOLE TRUTH, and NUTTING BUT DE TRUTH...so help you whoever or whatever yuh believe in.
Thanx ;D
Forumites I have been invited by Joel Villafana to be part of a Panel discussion on whether or not Maturana should be fired NOW (ie at THIS point of the campaign). He has asked me to get 4-5 other fans to be part of the panel. We are looking at having the interview taped either Tuesday (tomorrow) or Wednesday at TV6 Studio... anyone who's interested send me a PM with your contact info cell/e-mail/Posting Name/Real name...nice opportunty to get our voices heard... would be good to have ONE person who actually supports KEEPING him, PURELY FOR BALANCE... for MY part he would have been fired since the 2-1 loss to Bermuda last June!
Sounds like a lynching to me.
De fact dat Patriot want ONE person to TRY AND MAKE IT APPEAR BALANCED come straight outta de Klu Klux Klan playbook. Kangaroo Court if there ever was one. ;D
Doh worry bout de hypocrisy nah Patriot....jes lynch and get it over wit nah man!.. 8)
By de way....ah would like a HONEST answer from yuh on dis one breddrin.
Were you willing to fire him after de 3-1 victory in Cuba?
Remember...ah say HONEST! De TRUTH, De WHOLE TRUTH, and NUTTING BUT DE TRUTH...so help you whoever or whatever yuh believe in.
Thanx ;D
Nope, he was able to get the result at that time
I have always been an advocacy over the years that we so called natural brand of football never really get us anywhere
The quality of the play on the field has been poor but we have been getting results so i was giving him his just due.
But what is happening now is that other teams are simply smothering our strengths and exploiting our weaknesses
We don't have the quality and depth in certain positions and it showing us up badly at this time around.
We've played 10 games so far in qualifying, how many of those games we kept clean sheets? I recall 3 out of 10. Dat ratio not going to get us anywhere above 4th place and it's going to be a fight for that too.
When champions can't score, they keep clean sheets, i just not seeing the preparation in terms of tactics and selection team selections to keep the ball out of our net and that is the responsibility of the Coaching staff
When Beenhakker started with the national team, he immediately went about coaching up our back line. His policy was zero mistakes and keep possession and the other team will not be able to score. He knew what was required. I not seeing that from Maturana in terms of the preparation.
HONESTLY? I STILL insisted Mats should go, because while the 3-1 victory was good for us, we were STILL conceding goals from dead ball situations, and using a conservative 4-5-1 despite our abundance of IN-FORMstrikers. I was pleasantly surprised that we achieved the victory withOUT the BEST players being selected tho! And as far as i was concerned EVEN the 2-1 victory over the US was achieved because it marked the return of Latas, who AGAIN provided the "VIBES IT UP" momentum both then and in the preceding 1st 1/2 against Guatemala away. I supported the TEAM, but never the Coach because I simply don't have faith in him, because I do NOT understand WHAT he is doing... after over a year and God Knows how many players of experimentation he STILL does NOT have a settled starting 11, and for reasons best known to himself he has a left-winger playing at left-back and now a striker at Right-back.. at the end of the day Akiel and Wolfe did NOT pick themselves to play dem positions..and you want me to support THAT??? Look at TWO events in the 2nd 1/2 of the Nashville game - IMMEDIATELY AFTER Jason Scotland entered the field... check and see what happened at EXACTLY that point... here's a hint it involves a "conversation" between Scotland and Stern... and secondly the 3rd US goal... they DELIBERATELY set up the goal for Altidore... so he could get he hat-trick... all 3 US players were alone in the area with Ince at their mercy and gave Jozy the shot... dem men was embarassing we man... and you doh expect meh to be DAMN VEX!!! You wanted honesty... thais as honest an answer as I can give. Didn't appreciate the Klu klux Klan analogy edduh... buh ah know how yuh have a twisted sense of humor ent? :devil:
Palos...yuh ever see de full game vz cuba ?? de same 3-1 yuh talking bout...well take it from me from a TTFF offical...dey was shame tuh show de game after...we were totally outplayed in a football sense...not result of course..
and patriot...if yuh want a man tuh back maturana...call Lincoln Phillips....let him say what i shame to repeat why maturana is de best man for the TNT job
Palos...yuh ever see de full game vz cuba ?? de same 3-1 yuh talking bout...well take it from me from a TTFF offical...dey was shame tuh show de game after...we were totally outplayed in a football sense...not result of course..Lincoln must say that, he trying tuh save his own a$$! i doh expect him tuh say nutten differant. all in all, the man maturana is lacking and the stats speak for it self! maybe palos could offer him a job tuh coach the white caps, but as far as T&T goes, he have tuh ride out!!!
and patriot...if yuh want a man tuh back maturana...call Lincoln Phillips....let him say what i shame to repeat why maturana is de best man for the TNT job
Palos...yuh ever see de full game vz cuba ?? de same 3-1 yuh talking bout...well take it from me from a TTFF offical...dey was shame tuh show de game after...we were totally outplayed in a football sense...not result of course..Lincoln must say that, he trying tuh save his own a$$! i doh expect him tuh say nutten differant. all in all, the man maturana is lacking and the stats speak for it self! maybe palos could offer him a job tuh coach the white caps, but as far as T&T goes, he have tuh ride out!!!
and patriot...if yuh want a man tuh back maturana...call Lincoln Phillips....let him say what i shame to repeat why maturana is de best man for the TNT job
Sounds like a lynching to me.
De fact dat Patriot want ONE person to TRY AND MAKE IT APPEAR BALANCED come straight outta de Klu Klux Klan playbook. Kangaroo Court if there ever was one. ;D
Doh worry bout de hypocrisy nah Patriot....jes lynch and get it over wit nah man!.. 8)
By de way....ah would like a HONEST answer from yuh on dis one breddrin.
Were you willing to fire him after de 3-1 victory in Cuba?
Remember...ah say HONEST! De TRUTH, De WHOLE TRUTH, and NUTTING BUT DE TRUTH...so help you whoever or whatever yuh believe in.
Thanx ;D
Allyuh want rejects like Sancho, Avery and Cyd to not jes be in de squad, but startin. Players who have consistently been rejected by clubs EVERYWHERE. But is Maturana fault.
The man's team selection and tactics were an accident waiting to happen.....that accident was the US (twice)....the dentist must go!!!...
p.s. although he annoy mih with that bachanal article last week, ah find The Fearless One's new ad mocking Maturana funny as hell.... :rotfl:
And you HONESTLY tellin me that you believe Maturana was the one who AT THAT TIME was keepin we best players off de team and NOT Jack Warner.
And you HONESTLY also blamin Maturana for the opposition queuin up to try and give Altidore he hattrick KNOWING that we was already down 2-0 and most of we players were over tjhe half line tryin to make something happen and we get ketch on a counter attack.Who yuh vex wit? Maturana or de players who expose Ince so cruelly? We ALL know de answer to dat question doh ent? YES! Re-Read what I wrote about WHO he (Mats) picked... Wolfe and Akiel are decent players, but HORRIBLE in the positions he is playing them... AGAIN... they did NOT pick themselves... HE did!
Proof positive dat no matter what Maturana does or doesn't do...even when de team doing exactly what YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IN SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES, nutting he could do would be right fuh allyuh. As Touches said some time aback, the ONLY good thing Mats did was to give the youths a bly at Senior level... and drop dem when it was clear they weren't ready yet. the UP side being that we benefitted at the Under-20 level, qualifying for Egypt
Allyuh want rejects like Sancho, Avery and Cyd to not jes be in de squad, but startin. YES! Those 3 have MORE heart and experience than SOME of the men playing in their place (deliberately NOT callin any SPECIFIC names... those who have GOOD eyesight could see!)
Yuh REAL like tuh play DEVIL's advocate eh? :devil:
Right? Or is Latapy pick dem? Or maybe Yorke? Are they playing in their correct positions?
Right? Or is Latapy pick dem? Or maybe Yorke? Are they playing in their correct positions?
Palos,
the one thing I agree with you on is that if yuh want to blame Maturana for the negative things that happen during his tenure yuh can't conveniently give credit to yorke or latas for good things.
you're right that anybody blaming Pacho for the blacklist is confused. I'm not too sure who was making those arguments.
that being said, the case against Maturana is still overwhelming: even among the players that were available to him at any given time he has made bad decisions. So for you to make a list of good selections that he has made is somewhat disingenuous because all of those are straightforward choices for a TT coach. In fact, they only serve to make the glaring errors more confusing.
You made a list of all the players that he did call, so the least you could do is be honest about it. Even among the players on that list he hasn't shown much consistency. And when men did get called up it wasn't unusual to see baffling decisions about who would actually be on the field e.g. some of the decisions he made to keep players like Lawrence, Stern and Scotland on the bench in favor of players who clearly weren't up to the level.
In any case, the overarching argument against him, I think, is that the side hasn't really played that well under him. The fact that you would have to resort to referring to a 3-1 victory over Cuba should tell you something. Cuba is decent opposition in the Caribbean context but realistically we should have more ambition than to be classified in the same tier as them.
Maturana must go, our last 2 goodish performances which was last year against Guatemala (0-0 in Gaut.) and the 2-1 win vs the USA here, was SOLELY to Yorke and Latas controlling the game, it had NOTHING to do with Matucraphole on the bench or any strategy by him. Obviously when Yorke and Latas not in the game the side shitty because that is when they have NO choice BUT to listen to Mr. Matushithong.I glad we got all the results we got so far in the hex, we deserve it!1 it was ah nessesary evil. id rather lose pancho now than later! so i glad we get drobbed.
Clyde Leon was NEVER supposed to be in that team, no one will ever know why Hyland did not START and play along with Birchall but Matushithong.
We played 3 games and have 2 points when realistically we should have had 4 (should have beaten El Salvador, and ironically I blame Yorke for letting Shitty Stern waste it).
Last time we had 1 point and a miracle man called Don Leo this time?????
I would say get Guus Hiddink...
what about Terry Fenwick as a local option?
J.
hey patriot I'm in, that panel discussion will be great on Friday, i cant wait to see our discussion again on TV
What I am against is the wholesale blame of Maturana for everything from de team selection to de wall goin up by de Beetham.
If yuh blamin Maturana for selectin Akile Edwards and Anthony Wolfe, how yuh go tun around & say is Latapy pick Stern John and Carlos Edwards?
A man lookin to blame de coach fuh de fact dat de Yankees set up Altidore fuh de hattrick, conveniently neglecting to mention dat we was 2 goals down, lookin to make something happen, and get ketch on de counter. If de team did maintain shape and try to restrict de scoreline, same man woulda bawl bout how we down 2 goals and nobody doin anyting.
Same ting wit Akile Edwards. Nutting de boy could do would be good enough for most people on dis site. NOTHING. Because in dem mind, dem know more football dan anybody else and de player is a hound. And yuh know...perhaps he is. But even when he do decent or something positive, dey still cyah bring deyself to acknowledge dat. Nah....DEM HAVE TO BE RIGHT. He is a hound and nutting will change dat. Bring back Avery.....until de next penalty dat leave we wit 10 men and a half to play dat is. Den yuh go hear man praisin Avery fuh de "BLADE" he does share.
hey patriot I'm in, that panel discussion will be great on Friday, i cant wait to see our discussion again on TVWelcome to the Forum Ian! Enjoy! And yes, I too will be watching on Friday!
YES YOU SELF!!! :devil:And you HONESTLY tellin me that you believe Maturana was the one who AT THAT TIME was keepin we best players off de team and NOT Jack Warner.
And you HONESTLY also blamin Maturana for the opposition queuin up to try and give Altidore he hattrick KNOWING that we was already down 2-0 and most of we players were over tjhe half line tryin to make something happen and we get ketch on a counter attack.Who yuh vex wit? Maturana or de players who expose Ince so cruelly? We ALL know de answer to dat question doh ent? YES! Re-Read what I wrote about WHO he (Mats) picked... Wolfe and Akiel are decent players, but HORRIBLE in the positions he is playing them... AGAIN... they did NOT pick themselves... HE did!
So is also Maturana dat pick
Clayton Ince
Dennis Lawrence
Keyeno Thomas
Christopher Birchall
Dwight Yorke
Carlos Edwards
Russell Latapy
Stern John
Kenwyne Jones
Jason Scotland
Aurtis Whitley and
Cornell Glen
Right? Or is Latapy pick dem? Or maybe Yorke? Are they playing in their correct positions?
As was discussed by the Panel earlier, it is CLEAR to see that once Latas replaced Corneal as Asst. Coach, we switched from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2... Silvio re-appeared on the scene, clearly Latas has had SOME impact on the Coaching decisions... maybe you missed the press Conference when JW stated clearly that Latas apointment as an Asst was NOT cosmetic and he WOULD have input into the coaching...HOW much I don't know, but I would suggest from the evidence that Matas isn't the SOLE Captain of this ship... UNFORTUNATELY for him as the Yanks are fond of saying " The buck stops with HIM"... he's being judged by results ad for the campaign he ain't cutting it!QuoteProof positive dat no matter what Maturana does or doesn't do...even when de team doing exactly what YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IN SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES, nutting he could do would be right fuh allyuh. As Touches said some time aback, the ONLY good thing Mats did was to give the youths a bly at Senior level... and drop dem when it was clear they weren't ready yet. the UP side being that we benefitted at the Under-20 level, qualifying for Egypt
Yuh still eh answer if you was coach or if anybody else was coach, if when yuh team down 2-0 late in a game that getting caught on the counter looking to create something offensively is the coach fault. Why yuh RUNNIN from answerin dat question? Thanks to Daryn for HIS response to this issue... the point is EXACTLY that if his selection and strategy (or lack thereof) were not flawed to begin with, we most likely wouldn't BE in a 2-0 deficit in the first place! His panicked response to go with 3 strikers, with Leon practically a 5th defender and Hyland our lone central midfielder and with carlos wide right did NOT work... we lost our shape and the resultant confusion (and Ince's lapse) resulted in that 3rd goal...QuoteAllyuh want rejects like Sancho, Avery and Cyd to not jes be in de squad, but startin. YES! Those 3 have MORE heart and experience than SOME of the men playing in their place (deliberately NOT callin any SPECIFIC names... those who have GOOD eyesight could see!)
Why yuh fraid to name names? Seein dat dem men YOU say have more HEART dan anybody who currently playin in their place. Me eh know how YOU does measure HEART. If by HEART you mean man who does get send off fuh dotish tackles leavin men to struggle short handed fuh a entire half, den yuh could keep yuh HEART thank yuh very much. By Heart I mean men who play HARD for 90 mins and do NOT get run past like a cone by the same play over and over again... Avery and Cyd WILL pick up yellow and red cards, but guess what? Akiel missing the next game after picking up 2 yellows in 3 games, so I guess he would fall into the men who could "keep yuh heart thank yuh very much" too based on what you just said about costing the team?...And for the record PLEASE re-read what I said before about Akiel and Wolfe being decent players, JUST NOT IN THE POSITIONS THE COACH PLAYING THEM!!!QuoteYuh REAL like tuh play DEVIL's advocate eh? :devil:
Moi? 8)
We ended up with 9 Pannellists being interviewed by Joel Villafana, three forumites - Weary, BrownSugar and Myself... along with Brent (Keep Maturana), my brother Anthony, Tansley Thompson (Bring back Gally) and three other gentlemen whom Joel invited... ONE of whom felt firing Maturana NOW would be a mistake, as the Coach is just a symptom of our Football problems... and NOT the root cause. The discussions were QUITE LIVELY and fairly balanced, definitely NOT "a lynching" eh Palos ;) Another panellist, Ian, even joined the forum tonight. Also the plan is to have a monthly Fan Discussion, so if THIS show is well received, there will be other opportunities for us to be present and air our views in the months ahead.
We ended up with 9 Pannellists being interviewed by Joel Villafana, three forumites - Weary, BrownSugar and Myself... along with Brent (Keep Maturana), my brother Anthony, Tansley Thompson (Bring back Gally) and three other gentlemen whom Joel invited... ONE of whom felt firing Maturana NOW would be a mistake, as the Coach is just a symptom of our Football problems... and NOT the root cause. The discussions were QUITE LIVELY and fairly balanced, definitely NOT "a lynching" eh Palos ;) Another panellist, Ian, even joined the forum tonight. Also the plan is to have a monthly Fan Discussion, so if THIS show is well received, there will be other opportunities for us to be present and air our views in the months ahead.
what time they airing the show? I believe it will be at 6:30am...It's the "Hot Topic" segment, and thats what time it usually airs... if not, then at 7:00am. Will confirm when I find out for sure.
I hope to God this man out of here by thursdaySM yuh planning ah good riddence or what?? :devil:
I hope to God this man out of here by thursdaySM yuh planning ah good riddence or what?? :devil:
Den i not supporting again! i've gone as far as i can go with this nonsense!! maybe allyuh down there could protest.I hope to God this man out of here by thursdaySM yuh planning ah good riddence or what?? :devil:
If it wasnt Easter that weekend I would go on a 3 day drinking/party (a la Barry Ferguson )
but if he does not get fired i'll definitely be drinking lol
Meeting push up to today at 10:00am. They must be find some already?
hey patriot I'm in, that panel discussion will be great on Friday, i cant wait to see our discussion again on TV
Whey boy dat was fast!!...welcome!!.... :beermug:
and in 2009 ?
scratch that, who is he to be replaced by ? How long we contracting him or her (weary might run) for ? What is their mandate ? How do we evaluate ? What will determine to be worse ? Does it depend on who is selected (like ah friend ting)? Is Avery/Cyd/Brent match fit and ready ? where did they get their match fitness ? does it matter, we picking dem anyway ? what to tell the guys who match fit ? when will they be ready ?
mats stayin... >:(
mats stayin... >:(
mats stayin... >:(
mats stayin... >:(
Doh just make dem kinda comment nah man, quote ah source....
Callin in eh meh peeps nutten yet
mats stayin... >:(
Doh just make dem kinda comment nah man, quote ah source....
Sorry brown... calling and texting meh peoples (I would like to think so) at TTFF and no answers, so as of now, with no word out... he's in... :'(
Callin in eh meh peeps nutten yet
I heard on I95.5 fm this morning that an announcement was due around 1 pm today....and dem was getting kicks and saying how since for dem, is a foregone conclusion dat Maturana has to go, the sports news department could write up the story before hand.... ;D
I am sure he is getting axed...I spoke with someone in the ttff last week, and they said Jack was pissed after the game, they basically said that they had no one lined up,so i assume that was why they waited to announce, so they woul have time for a replacement...
Also I cannot see them making an announcement to say they keeping him...
They should always have succession planning...but then again, it's the TTFF
HALLEUJAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HALLEUJAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Maturana...fired TODAY! ;D
Weary, ya go kill we here :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:HALLEUJAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Maturana...fired TODAY! ;D
Stop spreadin rumours he resign because of differences of opinion on d way forward. He wanted 2 show dat Wolfe is a complete footballer by putting him in the goal. After all he has played every other position.
Maybe he should of put Wolfe in as goalie :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Weary, ya go kill we here :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:HALLEUJAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Maturana...fired TODAY! ;D
Stop spreadin rumours he resign because of differences of opinion on d way forward. He wanted 2 show dat Wolfe is a complete footballer by putting him in the goal. After all he has played every other position.
Nah put he behind de post...that could run after de ball and them. >:(Maybe he should of put Wolfe in as goalie :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Weary, ya go kill we here :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:HALLEUJAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Maturana...fired TODAY! ;D
Stop spreadin rumours he resign because of differences of opinion on d way forward. He wanted 2 show dat Wolfe is a complete footballer by putting him in the goal. After all he has played every other position.
Ecuador was pleased to host its second Com-Unity course in the space of four years in Quito recently, with a special focus being placed on football's relationship with the media. Representing FIFA were Dr. Jorge Gullen (a medical representative), Ernesto Fillipi (a referee instructor), former Colombia and Trinidad and Tobago coach Francisco Maturana (representing the FIFA Technical Study Group) and Fernando Ruiz from FIFA TV.
(http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/afdeveloping/courses/01/06/29/58/1062958_small.jpg)
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
I truly do not doubt that for a moment. The unfortunate part of that is we truly do not know what he could have done had he had full control of the team. I know many here ragged on him but in reality the man was not a bad coach prior to coaching our team. Language barrier aside it can't be easy coaching a team that you have no control over picking. Given the freedom to pick his own team we might have had much better results. He did the best thing by retiring (whether forced or not) tho, because the situation had no appearance of improving.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Yep ah stopping right here with dat. Russell is a man. And he definitely dont need Jack to further his career in life
so believe what you want.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Me eh kno wha some man does be thinkin nah. Experienced coaches have endured it constantly with the TTFF but a rookie coach wanting to preserve his dream job will say "nah f**k dat, allyuh eh go run my program sah" to de TTFF ent?! :rotfl:A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Ent?
Ah suppose Porterfield wasn't a respectable coach. Neither was Wim. Nor Simoes. Nor Bertille. etc. etc. etc.
Of course we all know that super respectable coach Trini Terry would never take dat from anybody. 8)
Me eh kno wha some man does be thinkin nah. Experienced coaches have endured it constantly with the TTFF but a rookie coach wanting to preserve his dream job will say "nah f**k dat, allyuh eh go run my program sah" to de TTFF ent?! :rotfl:A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Ent?
Ah suppose Porterfield wasn't a respectable coach. Neither was Wim. Nor Simoes. Nor Bertille. etc. etc. etc.
Of course we all know that super respectable coach Trini Terry would never take dat from anybody. 8)
If Russell is so he own man, lemmeh see he 1) pick Brent Sancho &/or Kelvin Jack and 2) dey actually play. ;D
Yep ah stopping right here with dat. Russell is a man. And he definitely dont need Jack to further his career in life
so believe what you want.
You mean de same Jack dat gih him de wuk? Or de same jack dat say he have full control? Like ah say before you stop dey wid dat
And you can guarantee that? Dan be real nah, I not saying Russell eh he own man an all dat eh. But at the end of the day, if he serious about coaching it eh go look good that he walk away from his first coaching job without progressing to a better opportunity. As far as that run of the mill statement you must be on drugs. When was the last time our national team had a rookie coach? As convicted as Russell could be he has much less footing than any of our previous coaches to grand stand. I hoping for the best with him but I not under the same delusions as you. Stop dey wit dat fella!Yep ah stopping right here with dat. Russell is a man. And he definitely dont need Jack to further his career in life
so believe what you want.
You mean de same Jack dat gih him de wuk? Or de same jack dat say he have full control? Like ah say before you stop dey wid dat
It seems as though you dont understand the difference between givng a man a job and being the person needed to further that man's career. If you think that Russell is your run-of-mill type of coach that jack normally hires then who i am to tell you otherwise. I know that jack wont tell him who to pick. You seriouly think that russel reached where he reached in life because of inability to make firm decisions and stick to them? The day jack interferes with his business Russell will walk.
Me eh kno wha some man does be thinkin nah. Experienced coaches have endured it constantly with the TTFF but a rookie coach wanting to preserve his dream job will say "nah f**k dat, allyuh eh go run my program sah" to de TTFF ent?! :rotfl:A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Ent?
Ah suppose Porterfield wasn't a respectable coach. Neither was Wim. Nor Simoes. Nor Bertille. etc. etc. etc.
Of course we all know that super respectable coach Trini Terry would never take dat from anybody. 8)
If Russell is so he own man, lemmeh see he 1) pick Brent Sancho &/or Kelvin Jack and 2) dey actually play. ;D
And you can guarantee that? Dan be real nah, I not saying Russell eh he own man an all dat eh. But at the end of the day, if he serious about coaching it eh go look good that he walk away from his first coaching job without progressing to a better opportunity. As far as that run of the mill statement you must be on drugs. When was the last time our national team had a rookie coach? As convicted as Russell could be he has much less footing than any of our previous coaches to grand stand. I hoping for the best with him but I not under the same delusions as you. Stop dey wit dat fella!Yep ah stopping right here with dat. Russell is a man. And he definitely dont need Jack to further his career in life
so believe what you want.
You mean de same Jack dat gih him de wuk? Or de same jack dat say he have full control? Like ah say before you stop dey wid dat
It seems as though you dont understand the difference between givng a man a job and being the person needed to further that man's career. If you think that Russell is your run-of-mill type of coach that jack normally hires then who i am to tell you otherwise. I know that jack wont tell him who to pick. You seriouly think that russel reached where he reached in life because of inability to make firm decisions and stick to them? The day jack interferes with his business Russell will walk.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Ent?
Ah suppose Porterfield wasn't a respectable coach. Neither was Wim. Nor Simoes. Nor Bertille. etc. etc. etc.
Of course we all know that super respectable coach Trini Terry would never take dat from anybody. 8)
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Oh lawd, as meh granny in T&T will say, "mouth open torry start tuh jump out." Tell yuh co-worker tuh tell yuh some more, give us de run down, we really need it. May be is just me, but I honestly thought dem days fuh doing dat was over, cuz we went de big stage and dey should be at a different level as far how dey think. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Oh lawd, as meh granny in T&T will say, "mouth open torry start tuh jump out." Tell yuh co-worker tuh tell yuh some more, give us de run down, we really need it. May be is just me, but I honestly thought dem days fuh doing dat was over, cuz we went de big stage and dey should be at a different level as far how dey think. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Oh lawd, as meh granny in T&T will say, "mouth open torry start tuh jump out." Tell yuh co-worker tuh tell yuh some more, give us de run down, we really need it. May be is just me, but I honestly thought dem days fuh doing dat was over, cuz we went de big stage and dey should be at a different level as far how dey think. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Everybody know Jack want his hand in everyting.
I ask de Colombian man here what else Mats say, and where I could find the interview.
He say it should be on Caracol.com from last week but I eh see it there.
Anyway he say Maturana said he liked our players and wanted to keep the job but the FF wanted to have too much influence in the team selection and he couldn't do everyting he wanted, so he had to let it go.
He didn't mention the dissatisfaction the general public had with his tactics and subs, or any details of the meeting with the TTFF.
Also Mats say Colombia should hire a foreign coach.
My coworker was gettin worked up over that.
Me eh kno wha some man does be thinkin nah. Experienced coaches have endured it constantly with the TTFF but a rookie coach wanting to preserve his dream job will say "nah f**k dat, allyuh eh go run my program sah" to de TTFF ent?! :rotfl:A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Then he aint no coach as i supected. any respectable coach would not take that shit from anyone
I know Russell anit go take that from TTFF. And what people in the TTFF he talking bout. Only one person could do that.
Yeah you stop dey wid dat :rotfl:
Ent?
Ah suppose Porterfield wasn't a respectable coach. Neither was Wim. Nor Simoes. Nor Bertille. etc. etc. etc.
Of course we all know that super respectable coach Trini Terry would never take dat from anybody. 8)
If Russell is so he own man, lemmeh see he 1) pick Brent Sancho &/or Kelvin Jack and 2) dey actually play. ;D
Why all yuh bringing up a thread with Pacho. All yuh did'nt like him. There is no need to reminist on the good old days.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.i feel bad for mats here. from the blacklist to the corneals. ttff is ah mess
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.i feel bad for mats here. from the blacklist to the corneals. ttff is ah mess
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.Well, let me tell allya
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
I give Mats respect on one issue,he gave many of the youths and fringe players caps... :beermug:
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
Oh lawd, as meh granny in T&T will say, "mouth open torry start tuh jump out." Tell yuh co-worker tuh tell yuh some more, give us de run down, we really need it. May be is just me, but I honestly thought dem days fuh doing dat was over, cuz we went de big stage and dey should be at a different level as far how dey think. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Untill the TTFF is totally overhauled and all members removed and replaced that eh happenin SUPA
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
If indeed true and he succumbed, it confirms that Maturana is weak and would be ineffective as a coach/leader.
A Colombian in work here told me about a recent Maturana interview.
Maturana said that he wanted T&T to do well and was trying, but was being told who to pick by ppl in the TTFF.
If indeed true and he succumbed, it confirms that Maturana is weak and would be ineffective as a coach/leader.
So if de same said bout latas....wha we could deduce?
I done say there is a front three and then a gap...Costa Rica join the U.S. and Mexico as the teams to beat in Concacaf
They're a much more organized unit than us, and their World Cup experience may very well have increased their confidence. They don't have high profile players, with the exception of Navas at Madrid.
They have a lot more players playing in top leagues. They have a great ranking so they won't have trouble getting friendlies. I'm just amazed how everyone is taking their football to another level. Even Haiti, a third world country (and don't start arguments about Trinidad is also a third world country), had their team in order.
haiti got a ton of money cause of that earthquake. a lot more carib countries would be organized but money is the issue.
haiti got a ton of money cause of that earthquake. a lot more carib countries would be organized but money is the issue.
We should not look at Haiti's poverty as a hinderance to their foootball progress. Haiti slump from the top of Caribbean an Concacaf football had more to do with political instability. Baby Doc, the military, Lavalas and then the earthquake. But there are lots of wealthy Haitians in Haiti and Miami. They put a lot of money in football. Allyuh know who the wealthy people are in TT. What do they do football?
I feel if more indian people in trinidad were into football it would be better funded