a play with Germany there almost identical to the one with Carter/Scotland in the TT-Jamaica game last night and the ref let play go on..
For me it was a bad call and Andy Gray is alluding as much.
Where is the line drawn as to where interfering with the play is concerned?
Lehman looking shaky...
Poland start hot but now the game settle and it looking like Germany beginning to get ahead.
Lehman looking shaky...
Poland start hot but now the game settle and it looking like Germany beginning to get ahead.
Poland is gonna win.. 1 - 0
Lehman looking shaky...
Poland start hot but now the game settle and it looking like Germany beginning to get ahead.
Poland is gonna win.. 1 - 0
Maybe 2-1, 1-0 Germany now, that offside trap could kill them today
Anybody have a schedule ah de games.....like I real out ah it
a play with Germany there almost identical to the one with Carter/Scotland in the TT-Jamaica game last night and the ref let play go on..
For me it was a bad call and Andy Gray is alluding as much.
Where is the line drawn as to where interfering with the play is concerned?
correct, agreed 100%, a bit fuzzy
germany not supposed to miss that. but poles may be saying "jah doh sleep", since it could've been offside
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players who can't make dey country's side. All them other big countries doing in so why not England? Who would have thought the day would come when a player with last name Gomez line up for Germany. Win at all cost not or win nothing and like it!
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players who can't make dey country's side. All them other big countries doing in so why not England? Who would have thought the day would come when a player with last name Gomez line up for Germany. Win at all cost not or win nothing and like it!
Both Poland and Germany had an African born player on their World Cup team.
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players who can't make dey country's side. All them other big countries doing in so why not England? Who would have thought the day would come when a player with last name Gomez line up for Germany. Win at all cost not or win nothing and like it!
Both Poland and Germany had an African born player on their World Cup team.
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players who can't make dey country's side. All them other big countries doing in so why not England? Who would have thought the day would come when a player with last name Gomez line up for Germany. Win at all cost not or win nothing and like it!nah , i doh support that. that is just not ethically right . pulling foreign players when you could let your local talent work harder.
nice to see football in HD ;D Watch Germany give Poland 3-0 like USA did them
No horse in dis race but I sure d German' go do d dopodolski on a hattrick
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players who can't make dey country's side. All them other big countries doing in so why not England? Who would have thought the day would come when a player with last name Gomez line up for Germany. Win at all cost not or win nothing and like it!nah , i doh support that. that is just not ethically right . pulling foreign players when you could let your local talent work harder.
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players who can't make dey country's side. All them other big countries doing in so why not England? Who would have thought the day would come when a player with last name Gomez line up for Germany. Win at all cost not or win nothing and like it!
Both Poland and Germany had an African born player on their World Cup team.
Gomez dad is Spanish - he coulda played for them, too.
Odonkor is German born but as a father from Ghana
Asamoah was born in Ghana and naturalized
Jimmy Hartwig and Erwin Kostedde were sons of African American GI's
Lawd d commentator ask if anybody born in Germany
Lawd d commentator ask if anybody born in Germany
heh heh....
is only today I realise after Germany's win in 1996 dey eh really make no waves in de tournament after dat....den ah remember dat nobody was really rating dem for WC 06 either....what change over de years den??...de influx of "foreign" players? Yeah ah know Klinsmann kinda shake up things, but ah only really ponder on dey progress while watching de game....congrats Germany...ah eh surprise but ah just had to throw mih support behind Poland...hard luck Beenie...must win against Austria.... :beermug:
podolski was born in poland.
If England want to make waves on the world stage, dey need tuh swallow dey collective pride and start giving citizenships tuh more talented players
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2008/7442255.stm
holland has always and will always be my team in europe besides england, without a shadow of a doubtA man after my own heart. Holland kills me with their perennial poor results but I with them.
God is de BOSS....
van nistelrooy actually was unable to score in the penalty box
GOOOOOAAAAAAL!!
Ruud Van Nistelrooy in the 26'
although he appeared offsides by a mile.... :(
GOOOOOAAAAAAL!!
Ruud Van Nistelrooy in the 26'
although he appeared offsides by a mile.... :(
was offside
question is does the italian that was injured behind the touch line still count
if he does he kept everyone on side
if not then it was offside
nah. once the defender behind the touch line you're off the field .so you won't count .GOOOOOAAAAAAL!!
Ruud Van Nistelrooy in the 26'
although he appeared offsides by a mile.... :(
was offside
question is does the italian that was injured behind the touch line still count
if he does he kept everyone on side
if not then it was offside
GOOOOOAAAAAAL!!
Ruud Van Nistelrooy in the 26'
although he appeared offsides by a mile.... :(
was offside
question is does the italian that was injured behind the touch line still count
if he does he kept everyone on side
if not then it was offside
If he was off the field then he's not a part of play...should have been offsides in my book.
As I type Sneijder in an absolutely clinical counter attack put the Dutch ahead 2-0
ok then what is to prevent defenders from just stepping over the end line during play to draw men offside?
he just went down and stayed there, he was not taken off. Just happened to land there
i say he keeps everyone onside
i think touches should post this in this you be the ref thread ;)
ok then what is to prevent defenders from just stepping over the end line during play to draw men offside?
he just went down and stayed there, he was not taken off. Just happened to land there
i say he keeps everyone onside
i think touches should post this in this you be the ref thread ;)
Maybe it's within the linesman's discretion in that situation to make the call. If he sees the defender just hop over the endline to play a man offsides then perhaps he can choose to not raise his flag. Not sure that was the case here though.
great save by buffon...look like rudd could only score off side goal ;D
GO HOLLAND!!!!![/b] [/color]
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nah the fella went down hurt from the first cross (he rolled over the line, but it was momentum that take him there) and was still on the ground (behind the line) when the ball went in
toni just blew it
(http://a813.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/15/l_cd5a414478afcac449f850a18ed329c4.jpg)
WHO'S NEXT :devil:
for some reason it felt good to see italy get nmash up like this. i mean, when was the last time that happened?
FORZA ITALIA!!??? LMAO!! ORANJE WITH THE WIN TODAY!!! CUTARSE FOR ITALY!! CUTARSE!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
for some reason it felt good to see italy get nmash up like this. i mean, when was the last time that happened?
Never...if we talking Euros here. They give up two goals all World Cup.
Clockwork Oranje looking dangerous....France better wake up.
nah the fella went down hurt from the first cross (he rolled over the line, but it was momentum that take him there) and was still on the ground (behind the line) when the ball went in
I was being facetious when I said "not sure that was what happened".... the defender collided with Buffon and stayed down after the collision. The explanation (just given on the broadcast) is that the player lying out of bounds was considered still a part of the play. The commentary team disagrees...saying that the defender didn't deliberately step out of bounds on his own (in which case they would have understood), but that his momentum took him out of bounds and he couldn't get back in play even if he wanted to.
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(http://a813.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/15/l_cd5a414478afcac449f850a18ed329c4.jpg)
WHO'S NEXT :devil:
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
lawd boy, the last time i remember Italy holding more than 2 in a tournament was against Brazil when they get the 4-1 and I cant even remember that cause ah wasn't even born yet. :-\
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
lawd boy, the last time i remember Italy holding more than 2 in a tournament was against Brazil when they get the 4-1 and I cant even remember that cause ah wasn't even born yet. :-\
Omar ah know yuh hurtin eh but dat funny as hell..... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
wdmc..
i feeling gutted...
italy is a side you don't score more than 1 goal against. full stop.
they go call for donadoni head on a platter.
i eh understand donadoni starting 3 defensive central midfielders with Ambrosini, Gattuso and Pirlo picking up the ball from deep. The problem was that it had nobody to do what Cassano came on and was doing in that starting lineup; pick up the ball in the midfield in the attacking third and run at the defence to create to make something happen.
in short, he didnt start anyone to replace Totti, yet the system is the same as when Totti was there.
He need to start Cassano or Del Piero in the hole next game.
lawd boy, the last time i remember Italy holding more than 2 in a tournament was against Brazil when they get the 4-1 and I cant even remember that cause ah wasn't even born yet. :-\
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
Geez Louise!! Talk 'bout spreadin' disease!
steups... i still sour.
oh feck man, 3-0? Best we go back to de tried and tested catenaccio!
wdmc..
i feeling gutted...
italy is a side you don't score more than 1 goal against. full stop.
they go call for donadoni head on a platter.
i eh understand donadoni starting 3 defensive central midfielders with Ambrosini, Gattuso and Pirlo picking up the ball from deep. The problem was that it had nobody to do what Cassano came on and was doing in that starting lineup; pick up the ball in the midfield in the attacking third and run at the defence to create to make something happen.
in short, he didnt start anyone to replace Totti, yet the system is the same as when Totti was there.
He need to start Cassano or Del Piero in the hole next game.
lawd boy, the last time i remember Italy holding more than 2 in a tournament was against Brazil when they get the 4-1 and I cant even remember that cause ah wasn't even born yet. :-\
if that is the rule it need SERIOUS revision!!
in this case Panucci wasnt intentionally stepping out of bounds...he get clean up by Bufon and was obviously injured
ITaly is alwasy suffer frm these kinda decisions and i still tink they comin out
holland hadda win all their games for we
that rule is going to be investigated for sure after this tournament
all the years i watching football...i never hear suck BS ...The Austrian fella must be jus say that not to cause no uproar at his country's tournament
he mad
if that is the rule it need SERIOUS revision!!
in this case Panucci wasnt intentionally stepping out of bounds...he get clean up by Bufon and was obviously injured
ITaly is alwasy suffer frm these kinda decisions and i still tink they comin out
holland hadda win all their games for we
that rule is going to be investigated for sure after this tournament
all the years i watching football...i never hear suck BS ...The Austrian fella must be jus say that not to cause no uproar at his country's tournament
he mad
It doh seem to matter that he was knocked out of the field by another player.
Once he there he there.
The other defenders should know about that rule and not try to play the stiker offside in such a situation, because he cannot be offside.
If they doh know the rule that is their hard luck.
Even if they know the rule, is a split second ting, nobody had time to think about it and Italy paid the price.
That 2nd goal was a beauty. Yuh doh get to see Buffon beaten at the near post very often!
Yeh the defense do real shit. Zambrotta run across to cover Kuyt and the two in the middle daydream until too late.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/Netherlands_national_football_team_logo.png)
italy wearing blue and like they real blight still boy.
losing 3 nil in the group ah death hmmmmmmm. going to take alot of work to advance now
People memory short oui! What goes around, comes to hell around. Italy was catapulted into the '06 WC Final in the pocket of a terrible call against poor Australia. If they get one bad call against them (one they still had plenty time and oportunity to recover from) and it end up influencing a major loss, well sobeit. :p They ain't quite been eliminated from the tournament just yet. They should get over their issues and play ball. The Dutch were the far better team on this day.That was only make up for all the shit calls they give we in korea
I am absoloutely amazed by the "expert panel" on ITVs coverage of this match. I understand most of you guys wouldn't have seen the ITV coverage, but their comments about the first goal amazed me.
Obviously, like everyone else who watched, my initial reaction was that is was offside. However, on seeing the reply it was immediately clear that Panucci was behind the touchline. I'm not an offside expert, but I assumed he was playing Van Nistelrooy onside. I did'nt know there was a speciic rule, but these "experts" should have been aware, or at least commented on Panucci's involvement.
They described it as a "horrible, horrible decision" whereas, it must be the best refereeing decision ever made in a major tournament.
The referree and his assistant should be publicly applauded and the decision explained clearly.
Its not often I feel a referee was the star man in a match, but in this occasion I think that was the case.
Mind you, the second goal was outstanding!!
wha bout the 3rd goal!van bronk pelt he frame straight up the field to score the 3rd goal! talk about an attacking wing back!
Euro 2008 - Controversy over "legal" Ruud goal
Eurosport - Tue, 10 Jun 09:49:00 2008
Austrian referees' commission chairman Gerhard Kapl said the goal was correctly awarded.
"The injured player behind the goal counts as a player on the field and therefore it was not offside," said Kapl.
wha bout the 3rd goal!van bronk pelt he frame straight up the field to score the 3rd goal! talk about an attacking wing back!
Van B had a great game..... Never a fan of his but yesterday he played his a$$ off.... The tall left-footed black man in the middle had a stellar game too...
Euro 2008 - Controversy over "legal" Ruud goal
Eurosport - Tue, 10 Jun 09:49:00 2008
Austrian referees' commission chairman Gerhard Kapl said the goal was correctly awarded.
"The injured player behind the goal counts as a player on the field and therefore it was not offside," said Kapl.
This seems, at best, counter-intuitive...
I think they slipped up here and do not want to admit it as there is no way Panucci should be considered an active player ....they probably did not envisage this situation happening !
I just coming to say that I vex I have tuh miss dis match...good thing, game like it over, as entertaining as Russia can be. I only right here in de home office but ah have too much work tuh catch up on. Hoping to still ketch Sweden/Greece later.
People memory short oui! What goes around, comes to hell around. Italy was catapulted into the '06 WC Final in the pocket of a terrible call against poor Australia. If they get one bad call against them (one they still had plenty time and oportunity to recover from) and it end up influencing a major loss, well sobeit. :p They ain't quite been eliminated from the tournament just yet. They should get over their issues and play ball. The Dutch were the far better team on this day.That was only make up for all the shit calls they give we in korea
i put a small TV in my office .. .so I watching the game over my shoulder ;D
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http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/tue10.6/Spain_Russia.html
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3 nil villa hatrick, a good man utd buy :devil:
so much for me calling Russia the underdog to watch. Hiddink doesn't look happy.they started this game very nice indeed
OK Russia pull 1 back
commentary on Soccernet:
93' And to think this Russian shambles are there because they knocked England out. My word we must have been truly terrible. Thanks Steve McClaren - you clown.
commentary on Soccernet:
93' And to think this Russian shambles are there because they knocked England out. My word we must have been truly terrible. Thanks Steve McClaren - you clown.
The most simple and practical interpretation of the law in this instance is the one that is adopted by referees throughout the world – that is that unless you have permission from the referee to be off the pitch, you are deemed to be on it and deemed to be part of the game.
i put a small TV in my office .. .so I watching the game over my shoulder ;Dcough
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/tue10.6/Spain_Russia.html
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My TV juss upstairs, de office in de basement...ah juss trying tuh show some discipline by keeping mih ass dong here and taking ah break every now so often tuh come online and peep de score.
But now ah find every "so often" becoming more every "now" :D
commentary on Soccernet:
93' And to think this Russian shambles are there because they knocked England out. My word we must have been truly terrible. Thanks Steve McClaren - you clown.
commentary on Soccernet:
93' And to think this Russian shambles are there because they knocked England out. My word we must have been truly terrible. Thanks Steve McClaren - you clown.
Browney, yuh in yuh glee eh ? ;D
D Barca men (Xavi, Iniesta and Puyol) and former Barca man (Cesc) do it today.aye
Xavi and Iniesta run riot in that midfield and Puyol look solid in the back.
A sterner test will be against Sweden.
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
Is like all ah we on here wukin nite shift or wha? We get to cockup and see allI got off my shift 4 hrs ago.....an I need to be in meh bed
de games live.
Is like all ah we on here wukin nite shift or wha? We get to cockup and see allI got off my shift 4 hrs ago.....an I need to be in meh bed
de games live.
buh what I doin
'Football on TV' Peong ;D ;D
wake me up when this is over.I geh off 7:30 an geh ah lil bit.Even thou dis one dull,I cyar see ball rollin an not watch. ::)
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
Come, come, I backing Holland too so doh try to spoil my good mood. Good thing they have some Madird players to balance things out, and two fo them scored! Huzzah!
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
Come, come, I backing Holland too so doh try to spoil my good mood. Good thing they have some Madird players to balance things out, and two fo them scored! Huzzah!
LOL! Only VanPussy can spoil the dance for them. I hope they win something for once! Dat would be sweet!
Game repalying on Espn something at 5pm. I predicting it here first - Spain v Holland in the final. Holland all the way!
i for some reason think that greece will beat sweden in this game.
A team with a United player on it will win Euro 08!
Come, come, I backing Holland too so doh try to spoil my good mood. Good thing they have some Madird players to balance things out, and two fo them scored! Huzzah!
LOL! Only VanPussy can spoil the dance for them. I hope they win something for once! Dat would be sweet!
Oh lord boy Giggsy, ah trying not to think that far.....de ghosts of the past haunt me when I do....so one game at a time bro..... :beermug:
the only thing positive about this game is the 2 swedish players i draft into my fantasy league side...You talking bout that I was hoping qreece didn't score cuz my back line is 2 swedes villa and cesc save my tail big time today Forza Two Left Feet!!!
i used the wild card to draft hansson (even though i eh even know who he is i know he start), and he just buss the net to save meh ass from de relegation zone.. :wavetowel:
Finally some body beat Greece 4ys later I cyah understand how them win dat cup
I think they slipped up here and do not want to admit it as there is no way Panucci should be considered an active player ....they probably did not envisage this situation happening !
The rule was put in to discourage defenders from deliberately stepping off the field and thus artificially making the offensive player offside. The rule applies (apparently) if the defensive player goes out of bounds on his own and has an opportunity to get back on the field. Obviously this wasn't the case here Panucci was legitimately hurt, but an assessment must be made as to whether he was truly hurt or whether he had an opportunity to get up and get back in play. If you look at the replay the ref was following the ball, and the call (correctly) was left to the linesman on the far side of the field, with the goal between him and Panucci. In the time it would have taken to make an assessment of Panucci's status (is he hurt or is he just loafing on the ground?) the goal scored. Between the time of Buffon knocking Panucci down, and Ruud scoring, there was only about 3 seconds that passed.
Unless they stopped play to take a look at Panucci, the only other thing the linesman could have done was give Panucci the benefit of the doubt (that he was legitimately hurt) and disallow the goal. I think the proper call was to give the benefit of the doubt to the offensive team here. The rule may or may not get looked at later on, but I think the proper call was made.
ah see Borat and dem rest 2 on Azerbaijan...
Yuh didn't see him in a mankini highfiving everyone after he leggo dat 40 yard screamer?ah see Borat and dem rest 2 on Azerbaijan...
Did Borat score?
I caught the 2nd half of Austria - Germany.....Austria equalize at the start of the 2nd half and had a good spell for most of the half then in true German style dey poison Austria in the 89th minute.....ah switch off after that but I'm assuming Germany won the game.....
Belarus 1 (Abidal OG 20')
France 1 (Malouda 22)
Belarus 1 (Abidal OG 20')
France 1 (Malouda 22)
looks like they're still in 2010 WC form.
Where all the Eng-ger-land fans? How Switzerland giving allyuh trouble so?
As i type that Bent just miss a sitter.
England very unconvincing against the Swiss.
England very unconvincing against the Swiss.
England were poor... the two free kicks were absolute gifts, Hart on the first, Milner on the second. Bent throw way about two very good chances as did Downing at the end.
I looked at the first and part of the 2nd. Honestly at times Eng. looked liked the visiting team. Yes, the Swiss 2 goal were gifts but they were goals. That is part of the game. They were lucky Swiss defender commited that foolish fowl. But Eng. still plays disjointed. Not fluid. It hard to pin point why this is so. And Capello has been at the helm for about 5 yrs now. Like Latas there should be a fire Capello thread. Look at the amount of players he has at his disposal. No foreign based ballers to confuse the situation, all the facilities and the amount of money he makes. The only bright spots for England was Ashley Young, Glen Johnson, Milner and Gareth Barry, I think.
italy takin at least 7pts from that group
...I'm not afraid of any greasy Italians (or Spaniards).
Look at group B, wow, that is actually crazy. :o :o
Predictions:
Group A: Russia and Poland
Group B: Germany and Holland
Group C: Spain and Ireland
Group D: England and France
Like Shabbazz?italy takin at least 7pts from that group
Trapattoni go do it to dem ;D
Am saving this post Observer so I can rub in your face in June ;)Predictions:
Group A: Russia and Poland
Group B: Germany and Holland
Group C: Spain and Ireland
Group D: England and France
You love your Brit teams eh ;D
Rep Ireland! Seriously!!
Ukraine playing at home will not be easy at all. Teams in that group don't count
your chickens at all. France for example struggling to score goals.
This thread eh really start until I post.....
GO ORANJE!!!!!
Bring it..... :bringiton: :challenge: :duel: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:
;D ;D
Imo, Micah Richards is the best English right back especially defensively.. Then its Kyle Walker, then Glen Johnson third.. Glen Johnson good going forward but he is a defensive liability.
I don't understand how you go into a tournament with one recognized right back and Phil Jones to cover. Picture a Robben running up against Phil Jones, i'd feel alot better about Micah Richards dealing with him.
I think the Carroll pick is a good one, but why not a 5th forward given that Rooney is suspended for 2 games? Wellbeck and Defoe is not men enough cover up top, coulda pick Sturridge.
How is Milner on that side in front of Carrick and how is Downing on that side is a mystery to me. How is Cahill there over Jagielka?
Anyway, no difference is licks all the same for this shitty Hengland squad.
A thread bout Euro 2012 descend into a England thread.
I'll check back when peeps start to discuss proper teams
A thread bout Euro 2012 descend into a England thread.
I'll check back when peeps start to discuss proper teams
ok. look a better side here.
Provisional Germany squad for Euro 2012
Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen), Ron Robert Zieler (Hannover), Marc-André ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach); Holger Badstuber, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm (all Bayern Munich), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke), Mats Hummels, Marcel Schmelzer (both Borussia Dortmund), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal); Sven Bender, Mario Götze, Ilkay Gundogan (all Borussia Dortmund), Lars Bender, Andre Schürrle (both Bayer Leverkusen), Julian Draxler (Schalke), Toni Kroos, Thomas Müller, Bastian Schweinsteiger (all Bayern Munich), Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil (both Real Madrid), Marco Reus (Borussia Monchengladbach); Lukas Podolski (Cologne), Cacau (Stuttgart), Mario Gomez (Bayern Munich), Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
A thread bout Euro 2012 descend into a England thread.
I'll check back when peeps start to discuss proper teams
ok. look a better side here.
Provisional Germany squad for Euro 2012
Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen), Ron Robert Zieler (Hannover), Marc-André ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach); Holger Badstuber, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm (all Bayern Munich), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke), Mats Hummels, Marcel Schmelzer (both Borussia Dortmund), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal); Sven Bender, Mario Götze, Ilkay Gundogan (all Borussia Dortmund), Lars Bender, Andre Schürrle (both Bayer Leverkusen), Julian Draxler (Schalke), Toni Kroos, Thomas Müller, Bastian Schweinsteiger (all Bayern Munich), Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil (both Real Madrid), Marco Reus (Borussia Monchengladbach); Lukas Podolski (Cologne), Cacau (Stuttgart), Mario Gomez (Bayern Munich), Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
This squad can cause some serious damage., especially going forward Gomez in fine form and he is an in the box striker, a player type Germans like, add Rueus & look out. Only one selection surprise me , its Mertesacker. Did not play well with Arsenal, was exposed for pace and he has been injured.
ok. look a better side here.
Provisional Germany squad for Euro 2012
Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen), Ron Robert Zieler (Hannover), Marc-André ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach); Holger Badstuber, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm (all Bayern Munich), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke), Mats Hummels, Marcel Schmelzer (both Borussia Dortmund), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal); Sven Bender, Mario Götze, Ilkay Gundogan (all Borussia Dortmund), Lars Bender, Andre Schürrle (both Bayer Leverkusen), Julian Draxler (Schalke), Toni Kroos, Thomas Müller, Bastian Schweinsteiger (all Bayern Munich), Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil (both Real Madrid), Marco Reus (Borussia Monchengladbach); Lukas Podolski (Cologne), Cacau (Stuttgart), Mario Gomez (Bayern Munich), Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
ok. look a better side here.
Provisional Germany squad for Euro 2012
Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen), Ron Robert Zieler (Hannover), Marc-André ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach); Holger Badstuber, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm (all Bayern Munich), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke), Mats Hummels, Marcel Schmelzer (both Borussia Dortmund), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal); Sven Bender, Mario Götze, Ilkay Gundogan (all Borussia Dortmund), Lars Bender, Andre Schürrle (both Bayer Leverkusen), Julian Draxler (Schalke), Toni Kroos, Thomas Müller, Bastian Schweinsteiger (all Bayern Munich), Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil (both Real Madrid), Marco Reus (Borussia Monchengladbach); Lukas Podolski (Cologne), Cacau (Stuttgart), Mario Gomez (Bayern Munich), Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
This squad can cause some serious damage., especially going forward Gomez in fine form and he is an in the box striker, a player type Germans like, add Rueus & look out. Only one selection surprise me , its Mertesacker. Did not play well with Arsenal, was exposed for pace and he has been injured.
ok. look a better side here.
Provisional Germany squad for Euro 2012
Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Tim Wiese (Werder Bremen), Ron Robert Zieler (Hannover), Marc-André ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach); Holger Badstuber, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm (all Bayern Munich), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke), Mats Hummels, Marcel Schmelzer (both Borussia Dortmund), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal); Sven Bender, Mario Götze, Ilkay Gundogan (all Borussia Dortmund), Lars Bender, Andre Schürrle (both Bayer Leverkusen), Julian Draxler (Schalke), Toni Kroos, Thomas Müller, Bastian Schweinsteiger (all Bayern Munich), Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil (both Real Madrid), Marco Reus (Borussia Monchengladbach); Lukas Podolski (Cologne), Cacau (Stuttgart), Mario Gomez (Bayern Munich), Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
Yuh look at that squad and is pace through and through...
Big, big keeper in Neuer.. A solid defence with Lahm, Hummels, Boateng and Holger... Then a midfield with the usual suspects, add in the Dortmund men like Sven Bender and Gotze.. Then a proven finisher in Gomez up top, with Podolski and Klose in the mix..
I have Germany down as my favourites to win it all..
I feel Spain will fall off this tournament with no fit or in form striker (Torres/Villa/Pedro), Puyol out injured and Piquetootoolbay on Shakiraoff form...
I looking for the Germans and the Dutch to go far.
I looking for the Germans and the Dutch to go far.
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Ireland meets France in the Quarterfinal, who wins?Without the cheating thieving shitsnake in the side I'd have to say Ireland
LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ;D :D(http://cf6.thingd.com/default/300300685_8be10cd64b5d.jpg)
Hoss....if yuh goin and show a bumpah....
SHOW A BUMPAH NAH MAN!!!!!
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Hoss....if yuh goin and show a bumpah....
SHOW A BUMPAH NAH MAN!!!!!
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Oranje will do well to make de 2nd round
I looking for the Germans and the Dutch to go far.
GO ORANJE!!!!!
No Euro thread would be complete without it...... ;D
It about time the Italians due a trophy, well at least a good run have been really poor since the '06 world cup .....hopefully Pirlo still have the legs if he playing well then Italy will have a good chance, I goining with a top three with Ballo Di Nattalie and cassano , with giovinco from the bench
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yeah it look like that italy starting 11 might be a lil juve heavy. i want to see di natale get his chance to shine though. he and balo up top go be real pepper
I looking for the Germans and the Dutch to go far.
GO ORANJE!!!!!
No Euro thread would be complete without it...... ;D
Portugal, Germany, Denmark, Holland dam! just getting out of this group would be like playing a tournament. Mind Oranje get peeled, pegged and suck we! ;D
would have liked to see Giuseppe Rossi on there.
Whey Luciano Narsingh from? He have Trini roots? Tallest whey yuh?
would have liked to see Giuseppe Rossi on there.
Think Rossi has been hurt for most of the season - probably still hurt or not yet fit.
Bulgarian poison right at the end, well done.
Spain squad for Euro 2012:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina, (Liverpool), Victor Valdes (Barcelona)
Defenders: Alvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Jordi Alba (Valencia), Raul Albiol (Real Madrid), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Javi Martinez (Athletic Bilbao)
Midfielders: Xavi (Barcelona), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), David Silva (Manchester City), Santi Cazorla (Malaga), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona), Juan Mata (Chelsea)
Forwards: Jesus Navas (Sevilla), Pedro (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao), Fernando Torres (Chelsea), Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
Spain squad for Euro 2012:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina, (Liverpool), Victor Valdes (Barcelona)
Defenders: Alvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Jordi Alba (Valencia), Raul Albiol (Real Madrid), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Javi Martinez (Athletic Bilbao)
Midfielders: Xavi (Barcelona), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), David Silva (Manchester City), Santi Cazorla (Malaga), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona), Juan Mata (Chelsea)
Forwards: Jesus Navas (Sevilla), Pedro (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao), Fernando Torres (Chelsea), Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
ah could be wrong but ah tink ah did see somewhere earlier in the week on FSC that Victor Valdes had get dropped for De Gea....
Spain squad for Euro 2012:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina, (Liverpool), Victor Valdes (Barcelona)
Defenders: Alvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Jordi Alba (Valencia), Raul Albiol (Real Madrid), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Javi Martinez (Athletic Bilbao)
Midfielders: Xavi (Barcelona), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), David Silva (Manchester City), Santi Cazorla (Malaga), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona), Juan Mata (Chelsea)
Forwards: Jesus Navas (Sevilla), Pedro (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao), Fernando Torres (Chelsea), Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
Spain squad for Euro 2012:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina, (Liverpool), Victor Valdes (Barcelona)
Defenders: Alvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Jordi Alba (Valencia), Raul Albiol (Real Madrid), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Javi Martinez (Athletic Bilbao)
Midfielders: Xavi (Barcelona), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), David Silva (Manchester City), Santi Cazorla (Malaga), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona), Juan Mata (Chelsea)
Forwards: Jesus Navas (Sevilla), Pedro (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao), Fernando Torres (Chelsea), Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
ah could be wrong but ah tink ah did see somewhere earlier in the week on FSC that Victor Valdes had get dropped for De Gea....
only the friendly because valdes was on the barca squad for the copa del rey.
the poles and uks vex now bout the bbc program.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/euro-2012-co-hosts-protest-140032196--sow.html
Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesman Oleh Voloshyn said the program was unjust and smacked of arrogance and xenophobia, portraying ''Eastern Europe as mentally not equal to the rest of Europe.''
''We believe this report is outrageous, done in the best traditions of Soviet journalism,'' Voloshyn said. ''Ukraine is one the leaders in Europe in terms of religious and racial tolerance.
''Nazi symbols can be seen at ... any match in England, but does it mean that fans should not come to London for the Olympics?''
Balo could play fuh me any friggin' DAY!
Is Quaglierra injured? Was Italy's best player in an atrocious WC 2010
Earlier post, Puyol injured, so no Euros this year for him
This program turn my stomach. It shows me that FIFA and UEFA don't really give a dam about Racism. Everybody knew the situation in both these countries & yet they get the Euro. In my view if FIFA want to make a strong statement these countries should be banned from football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93iQgI3_Iw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93iQgI3_Iw)
Let me post a real squad...... ;D
Netherlands Squad
Goalkeepers: Tim Krul (Newcastle United FC), Maarten Stekelenburg (AS Roma), Michel Vorm (Swansea City AFC).
Defenders: Khalid Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Wilfred Bouma (PSV Eindhoven), John Heitinga (Everton FC), Joris Mathijsen (Málaga CF), Ron Vlaar (Feyenoord), Gregory van der Wiel (AFC Ajax), Jetro Willems (PSV Eindhoven).
Midfielders: Mark van Bommel (AC Milan), Nigel de Jong (Manchester City FC), Stijn Schaars (Sporting Clube de Portugal), Wesley Sneijder (FC Internazionale Milano), Kevin Strootman (PSV Eindhoven), Rafael van der Vaart (Tottenham Hotspur FC).
Forwards: Ibrahim Afellay (FC Barcelona), Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (FC Schalke 04), Luuk de Jong (FC Twente), Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool FC), Luciano Narsingh (sc Heerenveen), Robin van Persie (Arsenal FC), Arjen Robben (FC Bayern München).
GO ORANJE!!!
:bringiton: :bringiton: :challenge: :duel: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :whip: :whip: :bringiton: :bringiton: ;D ;D ;D
This program turn my stomach. It shows me that FIFA and UEFA don't really give a dam about Racism. Everybody knew the situation in both these countries & yet they get the Euro. In my view if FIFA want to make a strong statement these countries should be banned from football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93iQgI3_Iw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93iQgI3_Iw)
Spain squad for Euro 2012:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina, (Liverpool), Victor Valdes (Barcelona)
Defenders: Alvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Jordi Alba (Valencia), Raul Albiol (Real Madrid), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Javi Martinez (Athletic Bilbao)
Midfielders: Xavi (Barcelona), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), David Silva (Manchester City), Santi Cazorla (Malaga), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona), Juan Mata (Chelsea)
Forwards: Jesus Navas (Sevilla), Pedro (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao), Fernando Torres (Chelsea), Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
Did Puyol retire from international football?
Be very wary of the dutch, you were all warned
This program turn my stomach. It shows me that FIFA and UEFA don't really give a dam about Racism. Everybody knew the situation in both these countries & yet they get the Euro. In my view if FIFA want to make a strong statement these countries should be banned from football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93iQgI3_Iw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93iQgI3_Iw)
Folks, if the kick off time is 18:00 that's about 12 noon EST right?? :-\
Folks, if the kick off time is 18:00 that's about 12 noon EST right?? :-\
6 pm I thought?
Folks, if the kick off time is 18:00 that's about 12 noon EST right?? :-\
6 pm I thought?
6 pm in Europe....but I'm on the other side of the Atlantic so I'm trying to nail down the equivalent time over on this side....
Folks, if the kick off time is 18:00 that's about 12 noon EST right?? :-\
6 pm I thought?
6 pm in Europe....but I'm on the other side of the Atlantic so I'm trying to nail down the equivalent time over on this side....
http://bit.ly/LfJYwx
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18331239Like half of France's team is made up of players with African parentage.
anyone watching the opening ceremonies?
It lacking something - maybe you have to be there live.
:rotfl:anyone watching the opening ceremonies?
It lacking something - maybe you have to be there live.
Monkey Chants
:rotfl:anyone watching the opening ceremonies?
It lacking something - maybe you have to be there live.
Monkey Chants
The broadcast I watching (of the game) have the crowd sounding like they in the parking lot.
Yawn , all the action tomorrow , Go Netherlands !!!
Russia vs Czech republic, should be good. :thinking:
Yawn , all the action tomorrow , Go Netherlands !!!
Russia vs Czech republic, should be good. :thinking:
Russia vs Czech republic, should be good. :thinking:
Good game... Russia just gone up 1-0 in the 15'... completely against the run of play.
Say what you want of ESPN, the production of their broadcast is top-notch. The commentary is another matter... not sure who the idiot providing color is, but somebody needs to tell him there's nobody named PETER Cech on the pitch... and that the Czech right back name is SeLAssie not SeLEEssie.
Czech Republic playing some nice ball.
Its Kasey Keller the old US keeper. I agree with you tho, I love Derek Rae as a commentator, but they disrespect him but pairing him with this amateur.
Somebody BBM Brownsugar quick
*sigh* ah reach.....and
ah just....
gutted..... :'( :'( :'( :frustrated: :frustrated:
What de hell was dat?? Ah bunch ah dried orange??!! steups!! :cursing: :cursing:
and Van Persie with he "in form" self.....wha happen to he?? Like he leave he form in England??!!
Steups again!!!
:'( :'( :'( :'( :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :'( :'( :'( :'(
Germany or Portugal ? something tells me go for the underdog , that is the trend. Go Portugal !!!!!!!
Germany or Portugal ? something tells me go for the underdog , that is the trend. Go Portugal !!!!!!!
Not dem Germans dem eh d Dutch.
*sigh* ah reach.....and
ah just....
gutted..... :'( :'( :'( :frustrated: :frustrated:
What de hell was dat?? Ah bunch ah dried orange??!! steups!! :cursing: :cursing:
and Van Persie with he "in form" self.....wha happen to he?? Like he leave he form in England??!!
Steups again!!!
:'( :'( :'( :'( :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :'( :'( :'( :'(
Wtf was that?
Lets Go Portugal alyuh is my second team
Rel pull stones ting with the Dutch lol, as always...
Anyway, Portugal seem to be containing Germany well enough and I love the blue adidas boots.
RVP should have never started. He always piss on himself with the Dutch. He may be the best player on Arsenal but this is Sneijders Dutch team, and it works alot better with the hunter.So the hunter was the starting centre forward for Holland when they went all the way to the world cup final in 2010?
Rel pull stones ting with the Dutch lol, as always...
Anyway, Portugal seem to be containing Germany well enough and I love the blue adidas boots.
I noticed it as well pretty advanced thing (Predator LZ)
http://www.youtube.com/v/ofUwA8A-gPI
Rel pull stones ting with the Dutch lol, as always...
Anyway, Portugal seem to be containing Germany well enough and I love the blue adidas boots.
I noticed it as well pretty advanced thing (Predator LZ)
http://www.youtube.com/v/ofUwA8A-gPI
dize not de same one rvp had on today when he keep slippin' all over de place? He shoulda wear a World Cup or a Puma King, he woulda perform better. :devil:
Rel pull stones ting with the Dutch lol, as always...
Anyway, Portugal seem to be containing Germany well enough and I love the blue adidas boots.
I noticed it as well pretty advanced thing (Predator LZ)
http://www.youtube.com/v/ofUwA8A-gPI
dize not de same one rvp had on today when he keep slippin' all over de place? He shoulda wear a World Cup or a Puma King, he woulda perform better. :devil:
Is a normal thing it look like :devil:
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RVP should have never started. He always piss on himself with the Dutch. He may be the best player on Arsenal but this is Sneijders Dutch team, and it works alot better with the hunter.So the hunter was the starting centre forward for Holland when they went all the way to the world cup final in 2010?
Or it wasn't Sneijder's Dutch team then?
Germany or Portugal ? something tells me go for the underdog , that is the trend. Go Portugal !!!!!!!
Not dem Germans dem eh d Dutch.
Germany or Portugal ? something tells me go for the underdog , that is the trend. Go Portugal !!!!!!!
Not dem Germans dem eh d Dutch.
England team visited an orphanage in Poland.
"It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces without hope" said Igor aged 6 ;D
Lol Kellar actually mention the Heats vs Celtics game later yes.
England team visited an orphanage in Poland.
"It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces without hope" said Igor aged 6 ;D
England team visited an orphanage in Poland.
"It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces without hope" said Igor aged 6 ;D
Who take in Sneijder's pass with the outside of his foot to Huntelaar? That was a stroke of genius and it really deserved a goal.
Where is Kluivert when u need him.... The dutch need quality strikers , van pussy only falling over the place
I just want to see good football.....
I just want to see good football.....
Yuh didn't see enough yesterday when Denmark did play?! :devil:
I just want to see good football.....
Yuh didn't see enough yesterday when Denmark did play?! :devil:
That was uncalled for :(
Never liked Italy and will NEVER support Italy, NEVER. :cursing:
It eh have another channel i could watch these euros, bc i real fackin fed up wid these bias racist arse yanks. :pissedoff:
listen tuh the two hamburger eating fackin yankees picking on balotteli like he deliberately throw away a goal, like balotelli is the first footballer to bang the ground on ah miss opportunity. and the worst part, here the big stinkin sh!t snake macomareman lalas saying that "not in a million yrs would he ever forget what balo did" and what he woulda do if they were team mates, good fuh balack and di rossi that they did not entertain them!
on the other hand , torres missed three one on one chances and all bullerman lalas could say was "poor guy, that must be hard on his confidence", i tell you, these fackin stinkin american white boys does real infuriate me to the limit and beyond wid their closet racist behavior, just wish i didn't have to hear them comment on the game of football, since the only people they does big up is their basic rough house fundamental unskillful players (dempsey and big head donovan).
BTW, that yellow card on balo was cow Bologna! that ref net ah fackin bull pestle in he clart! i wish balotelli win player of the tourney, let them eat they fackin dirty dog heart out!
Is it just me or someone is blowing a whistle in the stands causing the players to stop..I hearing it too...especially on the Irish goal..
Is it just me or someone is blowing a whistle in the stands causing the players to stop..I hearing it too...especially on the Irish goal..
Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
I doh even know why men letting Lalas rile dem up. Dat fella swear he's some kinda expert... yesterday I watching de broadcast and he steady keep interrupting Ballack. De Rossi on de set was a waste today, he catatonic as doh Robin Givens slip him something. Agree with you that they both did well to tune out Lalas.
DiNatale!
That fella doesn't get enough props outside of Italy I think.
DiNatale!
That fella doesn't get enough props outside of Italy I think.
i agree...even in italy successive coaches ent call him up or call him up and ent play him. i had never back italy before but this year b/c of meh boy balo, cassano and di natale i want dem do something.
It eh have another channel i could watch these euros, bc i real fackin fed up wid these bias racist arse yanks. :pissedoff:
listen tuh the two hamburger eating fackin yankees picking on balotteli like he deliberately throw away a goal, like balotelli is the first footballer to bang the ground on ah miss opportunity. and the worst part, here the big stinkin sh!t snake macomareman lalas saying that "not in a million yrs would he ever forget what balo did" and what he woulda do if they were team mates, good fuh balack and di rossi that they did not entertain them!
on the other hand , torres missed three one on one chances and all bullerman lalas could say was "poor guy, that must be hard on his confidence", i tell you, these fackin stinkin american white boys does real infuriate me to the limit and beyond wid their closet racist behavior, just wish i didn't have to hear them comment on the game of football, since the only people they does big up is their basic rough house fundamental unskillful players (dempsey and big head donovan).
BTW, that yellow card on balo was cow Bologna! that ref net ah fackin bull pestle in he clart! i wish balotelli win player of the tourney, let them eat they fackin dirty dog heart out!
DiNatale!
That fella doesn't get enough props outside of Italy I think.
i agree...even in italy successive coaches ent call him up or call him up and ent play him. i had never back italy before but this year b/c of meh boy balo, cassano and di natale i want dem do something.
Talking about Balotelli. What was he trying to do when he had de ball and acres of space?? He shoulda punish Spain at that point.......
Dem yanks vex bc di rossi blank them and chose italy instead, ah sure they never forgive him for that.Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
I doh even know why men letting Lalas rile dem up. Dat fella swear he's some kinda expert... yesterday I watching de broadcast and he steady keep interrupting Ballack. De Rossi on de set was a waste today, he catatonic as doh Robin Givens slip him something. Agree with you that they both did well to tune out Lalas.
Yeah Rossi wasn't the most verbose...or articulate. He looked kind of sour. Maybe he was totin cos he couldn't play for Italy. Lol
Yuh ain hear when Ballack say Di Rossi chose the better team by playing with the Italians instead lol...he say stand a better chance of winning somethingDem yanks vex bc di rossi blank them and chose italy instead, ah sure they never forgive him for that.Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
I doh even know why men letting Lalas rile dem up. Dat fella swear he's some kinda expert... yesterday I watching de broadcast and he steady keep interrupting Ballack. De Rossi on de set was a waste today, he catatonic as doh Robin Givens slip him something. Agree with you that they both did well to tune out Lalas.
Yeah Rossi wasn't the most verbose...or articulate. He looked kind of sour. Maybe he was totin cos he couldn't play for Italy. Lol
Why do i feel a underdog will win this tournament
Why do i feel a underdog will win this tournament
Why do i feel a underdog will win this tournament
like who, holland or italy?
Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
Lalas wid he over-rated ass always talking a setta shyte. He wish he had half as much talent as Balo. But anyway, Balotelli should have been more sinister with that ball in de box dey, especially since he work so hard to win it.
Why do i feel a underdog will win this tournament
cuz chelsea f up d system
Why do i feel a underdog will win this tournament
like who, holland or italy?
Why do i feel a underdog will win this tournament
like who, holland or italy?
Lol You backing anybody at all???
Not France, MangoChow, please...
DiNatale!
That fella doesn't get enough props outside of Italy I think.
i agree...even in italy successive coaches ent call him up or call him up and ent play him. i had never back italy before but this year b/c of meh boy balo, cassano and di natale i want dem do something.
Talking about Balotelli. What was he trying to do when he had de ball and acres of space?? He shoulda punish Spain at that point.......
DiNatale!
That fella doesn't get enough props outside of Italy I think.
i agree...even in italy successive coaches ent call him up or call him up and ent play him. i had never back italy before but this year b/c of meh boy balo, cassano and di natale i want dem do something.
Talking about Balotelli. What was he trying to do when he had de ball and acres of space?? He shoulda punish Spain at that point.......
Yeah, he stick dey, is almost like he thought he had de world ah time. Love his intensity to win that ball on de line doh, was almost unbelieveable...
Not France, MangoChow, please...
Why, wha happ'm? Who YOU backin'?
Not France, MangoChow, please...
Why, wha happ'm? Who YOU backin'?
Germany. :D
It eh have another channel i could watch these euros, bc i real fackin fed up wid these bias racist arse yanks. :pissedoff:
listen tuh the two hamburger eating fackin yankees picking on balotteli like he deliberately throw away a goal, like balotelli is the first footballer to bang the ground on ah miss opportunity. and the worst part, here the big stinkin sh!t snake macomareman lalas saying that "not in a million yrs would he ever forget what balo did" and what he woulda do if they were team mates, good fuh balack and di rossi that they did not entertain them!
on the other hand , torres missed three one on one chances and all bullerman lalas could say was "poor guy, that must be hard on his confidence", i tell you, these fackin stinkin american white boys does real infuriate me to the limit and beyond wid their closet racist behavior, just wish i didn't have to hear them comment on the game of football, since the only people they does big up is their basic rough house fundamental unskillful players (dempsey and big head donovan).
BTW, that yellow card on balo was cow Bologna! that ref net ah fackin bull pestle in he clart! i wish balotelli win player of the tourney, let them eat they fackin dirty dog heart out!
Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.We should all write ESPN and complain about his bias ass...Can't stand his non talented commentating ass!!
Yeah Rossi wasn't the most verbose...or articulate. He looked kind of sour. Maybe he was totin cos he couldn't play for Italy. Lol
DiNatale!
That fella doesn't get enough props outside of Italy I think.
i agree...even in italy successive coaches ent call him up or call him up and ent play him. i had never back italy before but this year b/c of meh boy balo, cassano and di natale i want dem do something.
Talking about Balotelli. What was he trying to do when he had de ball and acres of space?? He shoulda punish Spain at that point.......
Yeah, he stick dey, is almost like he thought he had de world ah time. Love his intensity to win that ball on de line doh, was almost unbelieveable...
Have to agree with Lefty (in essence). Lalas was a real idiot harping on about Balotelli and making really ridiculous comments. Good on Ballack and Rossi especially for not entertaining him. Torres throw way one setta goal Balotelli messed up once and Lalas saying he woulda 'jack him up' in the dressing room? As Rossie say Balo did a lot during the match.
I doh even know why men letting Lalas rile dem up. Dat fella swear he's some kinda expert... yesterday I watching de broadcast and he steady keep interrupting Ballack. De Rossi on de set was a waste today, he catatonic as doh Robin Givens slip him something. Agree with you that they both did well to tune out Lalas.
Yeah Rossi wasn't the most verbose...or articulate. He looked kind of sour. Maybe he was totin cos he couldn't play for Italy. Lol
Ah backing France today vs. England. Dey done start to complain bout de heat. I eh hear any of the commentators talk about the heat until they start analysing the England game. Steups!!!
I eh no fan of French football, but ah hope dey give England 2 or 3.....
Yeah, he HAD to know the defender was comin' back in he ass, maybe he was thinkin' the defender woulda had to foul him from behind to win de ball, who knows.....he shoulda really take the opportunity to blast dah ball past Casillas in the far post and shut all his critics up fuh a few minutes.
If England scores i think France will tank badly
If England scores i think France will tank badly
Yeah, he HAD to know the defender was comin' back in he ass, maybe he was thinkin' the defender woulda had to foul him from behind to win de ball, who knows.....he shoulda really take the opportunity to blast dah ball past Casillas in the far post and shut all his critics up fuh a few minutes.
That was such a confusing play by Balotelli. We does rightly knock KJ for his lack of effort but when yuh watch Balotelli he real similar. He is not about hustling and you will never see him busting a lung to gamble on a ball reaching the far post. Economy of motion is the name of the game with Balotelli. Even when he shooting at goal is more of a pass to the corner than a bullet. Very graceful player and a great finisher.
On that play I was surprised to see him put in the hustle to pick Ramos’ pocket and after he do all that hard-work is like he decide to go into slow-motion
If England scores i think France will tank badly
i feel so...i feel some of them france players ent have no heart
If England scores i think France will tank badly
i feel so...i feel some of them france players ent have no heart
There are times when a 'keeper is absolutely NOT supposed to be beaten at his first post.........that was one of them. Not sure if Hart was unsighted by players in his line of sight, though so maybe ah being a little harsh but for the most part, a man of his abillity shouldn't let that score.
There are times when a 'keeper is absolutely NOT supposed to be beaten at his first post.........that was one of them. Not sure if Hart was unsighted by players in his line of sight, though so maybe ah being a little harsh but for the most part, a man of his abillity shouldn't let that score.
Daarke and McManaman trying to give Hart the benefit of the doubt, saying that Hart might have seen the shot late.
...is it me or did that 1st half go by rel quick?! :o
...is it me or did that 1st half go by rel quick?! :o
There are times when a 'keeper is absolutely NOT supposed to be beaten at his first post.........that was one of them. Not sure if Hart was unsighted by players in his line of sight, though so maybe ah being a little harsh but for the most part, a man of his abillity shouldn't let that score.
Daarke and McManaman trying to give Hart the benefit of the doubt, saying that Hart might have seen the shot late.
Yes he saw it late that's why you cannot let them shoot from there. England has so many players in the defense behind the ball that Hart will be blinded, so those defenders need to stop the shot.
Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
There are times when a 'keeper is absolutely NOT supposed to be beaten at his first post.........that was one of them. Not sure if Hart was unsighted by players in his line of sight, though so maybe ah being a little harsh but for the most part, a man of his abillity shouldn't let that score.
Daarke and McManaman trying to give Hart the benefit of the doubt, saying that Hart might have seen the shot late.
Yes he saw it late that's why you cannot let them shoot from there. England has so many players in the defense behind the ball that Hart will be blinded, so those defenders need to stop the shot.
I agree, the defender should have charged down that shot. Nasri should not have been allowed to shoot.
Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
Simple equations:
French defence is suspect, but England's attack not really strong. If they had a Linekar, Shearer or Owen, france could suffer.
French attack not bad, possesion and passing good. But England defence strong.
Statistically, France should score again, unless Gerrard and Parker take control of middle third. Need to play higher up the pitch without losing contact with back four, or really start to penetrate with Cole and Johnson down the wings.
If England continue as they are, they will lose or be lucky to hold a draw.
Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
You giving shitong Lalas waaay too much credit.
The man is an imps and for years now the man knowledge of the game piss poor.
I doh even think I could sit down and have a proper footbal discussion with him. I does hadda wonder if we watching the same game.
Yuh know what, i just can't believe that these ppl get paid to talk ah crock full ah sh!t ! IMO bring in real class acts like gullet or rijkard to give their professional analysis, but not these fackin rednecks. even king compromising dwight york would have been better.Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
Calm yuhself nah.
None of these English players really providing any excitement. The fellas who were dangerous before all lost their form, and the new guys not ready yet.
Maybe they shoulda bring Heskey and Crouch. ::)
Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
None of these English players really providing any excitement. The fellas who were dangerous before all lost their form, and the new guys not ready yet.
Maybe they shoulda bring Heskey and Crouch. ::)
You use English players
And excitement
In de same sentence? ??? ::)
Ah backing France today vs. England. Dey done start to complain bout de heat. I eh hear any of the commentators talk about the heat until they start analysing the England game. Steups!!!
I eh no fan of French football, but ah hope dey give England 2 or 3.....
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
Lalas was impressed with England's performance.......
he's a dunce.
Man they giving Ballack alot of shit in that EsPn room and who is the balssy lass siding with Lalas
Man they giving Ballack alot of shit in that EsPn room and who is the balssy lass siding with Lalas
Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
At least Milner knew when to shoot. What Balotelli do?
Look Jesus playin for Sweden.
Don't get what people see in England.
What about them makes people other than the English want them to win? No character, no personality, no skill, no flair, no imagination...nothing.
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
...In all fairness to Milner, I think Balo had everything easier for him once he found himslef in all that space with what he seemed to think was all that time....Milner's momentum was taking him away from goal and he did his best to sqaure the ball back over the goal line.....I would be more vex wit my boy Balo than I would be if I were Milner's coach.??? ???
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
lol What Lalas saying allyuh?
No ESPN coverage for me today.
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
lol What Lalas saying allyuh?
No ESPN coverage for me today.
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
lol What Lalas saying allyuh?
No ESPN coverage for me today.
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
lol What Lalas saying allyuh?
No ESPN coverage for me today.
Ballack face was like WTF.
Allyuh hear this nasty man alexi la-ass?? yesterday he wanted tuh jack up balotelli for what wasn't even a clear shot on goal, but exonerated milner for missing an empty net, matter of fact he didn't even spend 10 seconds on that miss sitter.
yeh, ah hope all allyuh apologetic progressive thinker get ah chance tuh see the obvious double standards with these white people, and know dat ah black man is always held to a higher standard than a white man in the white world. :frustrated:
PS: then allyuh does want tuh label me for stating the obvious.
At least Milner knew when to shoot. What Balotelli do?
You serious or you joking?
...In all fairness to Milner, I think Balo had everything easier for him once he found himslef in all that space with what he seemed to think was all that time....Milner's momentum was taking him away from goal and he did his best to sqaure the ball back over the goal line.....I would be more vex wit my boy Balo than I would be if I were Milner's coach.
...In all fairness to Milner, I think Balo had everything easier for him once he found himslef in all that space with what he seemed to think was all that time....Milner's momentum was taking him away from goal and he did his best to sqaure the ball back over the goal line.....I would be more vex wit my boy Balo than I would be if I were Milner's coach.
I was gonna say something like but didnt want Just Cool to come and call me and apologetic, progressive thinking, uncle tom or something of that nature... :D
Doh get me wrong eh, is rheell shit Milner do there eh. Any international footballer player should put that away.
But at least he fling a foot.. I think Balo own would draw a bigger gasp because he just freeze up and didnt do anything.
Men still talking about Balo miss... Goals does throw-way every day man...How much goal Torres miss yesterday in the space of like 8 minutes? Lewwe overs that nuh....
Men still talking about Balo miss... Goals does throw-way every day man...How much goal Torres miss yesterday in the space of like 8 minutes? Lewwe overs that nuh....
Is not de quantity, is de quality. :laugh:
Men still talking about Balo miss... Goals does throw-way every day man...How much goal Torres miss yesterday in the space of like 8 minutes? Lewwe overs that nuh....
Is not de quantity, is de quality. :laugh:
hoss Buffon read he like a book on the first one when he try to rounds him lol ... and the scoop/chip - well that was just poor...
Torres lucky Balo had a gaffe to overshadow him...cause dem misses were terrible.
Honestly, folks, I really think the English (and lal-ass) are looking at Sweden and Ukraine as easy prey in this group......If they really think this is 2 pushover side, they go really be in fuh a shock when dey ridin' dat Easy Jet back home next week!
Casey Keller is commentating? Say it aint so. I cyah believe I have to put up with 90 minutes of this..
Casey Keller is commentating? Say it aint so. I cyah believe I have to put up with 90 minutes of this..
when I had was to PAY big money in NYC to buy mango and make a chow I did chalk it up to payin' fuh all de mango ah did tief in meh boy days....yuh grow up gettin' spoil on all de good football commentary yuh coulda ever wish for so take shit in yuh ass now! :laugh:
Honestly, folks, I really think the English (and lal-ass) are looking at Sweden and Ukraine as easy prey in this group......If they really think this is 2 pushover side, they go really be in fuh a shock when dey ridin' dat Easy Jet back home next week!
How much time dey try 2 deal wit d Swedes ind pass and could only end up with a draw?
Casey Keller is commentating? Say it aint so. I cyah believe I have to put up with 90 minutes of this..
when I had was to PAY big money in NYC to buy mango and make a chow I did chalk it up to payin' fuh all de mango ah did tief in meh boy days....yuh grow up gettin' spoil on all de good football commentary yuh coulda ever wish for so take shit in yuh ass now! :laugh:
For me, hell (if there is one) would be stuck in a room having to listen to Lalas and Keller commentating on matches for an eternity...
Not watching now, but I didn't think Keller was that bad in the games I heard him call.
Not watching now, but I didn't think Keller was that bad in the games I heard him call.
he is a cerebral fella.....rel Type A, aloof kinda finish and it kinda coes out in his commentary/analyses. People eh really have de appetite fuh dat......but boy, dat f**ker coulda save, oh SHIT!!
on another note....there are certain colours/combinations that just look REL beautiful as football kits, no matter the design.....yellow/blue is one ah dem boy!
Not watching now, but I didn't think Keller was that bad in the games I heard him call.
he is a cerebral fella.....rel Type A, aloof kinda finish and it kinda coes out in his commentary/analyses. People eh really have de appetite fuh dat......but boy, dat f**ker coulda save, oh SHIT!!
on another note....there are certain colours/combinations that just look REL beautiful as football kits, no matter the design.....yellow/blue is one ah dem boy!
I didn't know you were a Fatima College fan.
Honestly, folks, I really think the English (and lal-ass) are looking at Sweden and Ukraine as easy prey in this group......If they really think this is 2 pushover side, they go really be in fuh a shock when dey ridin' dat Easy Jet back home next week!
How much time dey try 2 deal wit d Swedes ind pass and could only end up with a draw?
and watch, if Either team come away from this game with 3 points....is worries fuh France and England because who want to deal with a desperate Sweden (not England) or a desperate host nation this Ukraine team? Neither one of them want that.
Look Chenko just find heself in a similar position as Ballo and he hit the shot far post.
Finally!
A game with action.
Not watching now, but I didn't think Keller was that bad in the games I heard him call.
Not watching now, but I didn't think Keller was that bad in the games I heard him call.
Perhaps you are right. I should give Keller the benefit of the doubt. In any case, I found a bbc link online, so I don't have to put up with the ESPN commentary.
Oh gosh, Elan!!
Yuh doh find the horse dead enough?
Ballack commenting on how open the game is and why he enjoying it...and Lalas still trying to make his England point...
now elan....with this photo yuh put up dey...ah want yuh to draw a (imaginary, if you must) vertical line just touching the outside of Casillas' right foot and tell meh hummuch of the goal is exposed......and mind you, this is just the instant Ramos is making the tackle.....so if you are trying to make the point that shooting last post was not an option, yuh lorse dah one dey. :beermug:
Ballack commenting on how open the game is and why he enjoying it...and Lalas still trying to make his England point...
You notice that too. I thought I was going crazy or paranoid
Ballack commenting on how open the game is and why he enjoying it...and Lalas still trying to make his England point...
Ballack commenting on how open the game is and why he enjoying it...and Lalas still trying to make his England point...
He face still red from when Ballack dismiss him after the England game! :rotfl:
Ballack commenting on how open the game is and why he enjoying it...and Lalas still trying to make his England point...
He face still red from when Ballack dismiss him after the England game! :rotfl:
now elan....with this photo yuh put up dey...ah want yuh to draw a (imaginary, if you must) vertical line just touching the outside of Casillas' right foot and tell meh hummuch of the goal is exposed......and mind you, this is just the instant Ramos is making the tackle.....so if you are trying to make the point that shooting last post was not an option, yuh lorse dah one dey. :beermug:
Okay, good.....now measure when Casillas lie down across the goal (head towards Pique and foot in line with the 1st post) and see where he will reach.
Toppa - Lalas bawl: you have to do what it takes to win...
Ballack bawl: but they didn't win...silence.....................crickets..............................silence.......................crickets
Toppa - Lalas bawl: you have to do what it takes to win...
Ballack bawl: but they didn't win...silence.....................crickets..............................silence.......................crickets
now elan....with this photo yuh put up dey...ah want yuh to draw a (imaginary, if you must) vertical line just touching the outside of Casillas' right foot and tell meh hummuch of the goal is exposed......and mind you, this is just the instant Ramos is making the tackle.....so if you are trying to make the point that shooting last post was not an option, yuh lorse dah one dey. :beermug:
Okay, good.....now measure when Casillas lie down across the goal (head towards Pique and foot in line with the 1st post) and see where he will reach.
Elan, yuh never play football ah wha?! Come nuh man! Ball does roll under, go over, go past 'keeper hand, go between 'keeper legs and all kinda ting. You really think if Balotelli put he foot through that ball and ress it last post that Casillas woulda had much of a chance? By the time he even decide to "lie down" as you say, the ball done bouncing out the net arready. Doh make meh :rotfl: at yuh nuh man!Toppa - Lalas bawl: you have to do what it takes to win...
Ballack bawl: but they didn't win...silence.....................crickets..............................silence.......................crickets
and hear nuh, is de "secondary school f**k-up look" he give him when he say it too eh! Ah was dyin'!
Toppa - Lalas bawl: you have to do what it takes to win...
Ballack bawl: but they didn't win...silence.....................crickets..............................silence.......................crickets
Big Striker vs Big Striker.
Shevchenko vs Ibrahimovic
now elan....with this photo yuh put up dey...ah want yuh to draw a (imaginary, if you must) vertical line just touching the outside of Casillas' right foot and tell meh hummuch of the goal is exposed......and mind you, this is just the instant Ramos is making the tackle.....so if you are trying to make the point that shooting last post was not an option, yuh lorse dah one dey. :beermug:
Okay, good.....now measure when Casillas lie down across the goal (head towards Pique and foot in line with the 1st post) and see where he will reach.
Elan, yuh never play football ah wha?! Come nuh man! Ball does roll under, go over, go past 'keeper hand, go between 'keeper legs and all kinda ting. You really think if Balotelli put he foot through that ball and ress it last post that Casillas woulda had much of a chance? By the time he even decide to "lie down" as you say, the ball done bouncing out the net arready. Doh make meh :rotfl: at yuh nuh man!Toppa - Lalas bawl: you have to do what it takes to win...
Ballack bawl: but they didn't win...silence.....................crickets..............................silence.......................crickets
and hear nuh, is de "secondary school f**k-up look" he give him when he say it too eh! Ah was dyin'!
So then we should not factor in the GK then. ??? anyways cool. :beermug:
Is a good thing Sweden had a man covering the front post...
Is a good thing Sweden had a man covering the front post...
Lol...
Is a good thing Sweden had a man covering the front post...
Yeah, the post does slip the marker easy... :)Is a good thing Sweden had a man covering the front post...
Keller focusing on Sheva losing Ibra....Sheva made a smart run from behind de man....it was a hard luck fuh de man on d post, de ball pass righ by he torso.....it hard to mark de post closer than that.
Yeah, the post does slip the marker easy... :)Is a good thing Sweden had a man covering the front post...
Keller focusing on Sheva losing Ibra....Sheva made a smart run from behind de man....it was a hard luck fuh de man on d post, de ball pass righ by he torso.....it hard to mark de post closer than that.
Seriously, the ball was an awkward height and speed to do anything. Maybe them defenders need wining lessons.
Murphy's law says that now that Sheva has been subbed, Sweden will score and the Ukraine will need a finisher.
best game of the tournament so far for me
Murphy's law says that now that Sheva has been subbed, Sweden will score and the Ukraine will need a finisher.
goat mouth.......how lucky was that
Men still talking about Balo miss... Goals does throw-way every day man...How much goal Torres miss yesterday in the space of like 8 minutes? Lewwe overs that nuh....Men only talking about it because Elan steady insist on making excuses fuh him and comparing it to Milner's miss.
best game of the tournament so far for me
Ditto
best game of the tournament so far for me
Ditto
Wha yuh mean "Ditto"?! Ent yuh miss de dam game? :laugh:
Any word yet on metro? He was last seen in the pre-game coin-toss and in spurts and flashes during the game but no one saw how he disappeared so magically from in the Lviv Arena.....
Any word yet on metro? He was last seen in the pre-game coin-toss and in spurts and flashes during the game but no one saw how he disappeared so magically from in the Lviv Arena.....
Stop hating on the bestplayerdisappearing act in the world.
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
lol What Lalas saying allyuh?
No ESPN coverage for me today.
Lalas bawl he very impressed with an excellent performance from England.
They had a plan and they executed well.
Ballack face was like WTF.
England well park de bus in this game. Boring.
Lalas talkin real tootoo and Ballack want to laugh at him.
lol What Lalas saying allyuh?
No ESPN coverage for me today.
Lalas bawl he very impressed with an excellent performance from England.
They had a plan and they executed well.
Ballack face was like WTF.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/v/x_DB4LA0tKU
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/TOuiZ3IJIMY
Murphy's law says that now that Sheva has been subbed, Sweden will score and the Ukraine will need a finisher.
goat mouth.......how lucky was that
I guess Murphy doh play football.
Good game. :applause:
Fete in Kiev tonight! Free bananas for everyone!
All these ESPN former american soccer players does remind me of bill O'riley on fox news network.
harks, wonalda , bill lee, julie foudy, and now this waste of ah fack, lal-ass! all ah dem real bulley-ish, super opinionated and dismissive! in other words, crude and rude!
Toppa - Lalas bawl: you have to do what it takes to win...
Ballack bawl: but they didn't win...silence.....................crickets..............................silence.......................crickets
:rotfl: @ that gif.
But allyuh might crucify me, but Lalas had a point...they both had points but I don't think Lalas was talking so much lala.
:rotfl: @ that gif.
But allyuh might crucify me, but Lalas had a point...they both had points but I don't think Lalas was talking so much lala.
Lalas might have a point, but why he must try to gunta he point down people throat.... Man does be interrupting mid sentence, loud and boisterous before Ballack sentence even finish.... And yuh done know Ballack is ah opinionated kinda fellah who doh eat nice.
Them ESPN production staff hadda tell Lalas to take it down a notch to B flat yes.
:rotfl: @ that gif.
But allyuh might crucify me, but Lalas had a point...they both had points but I don't think Lalas was talking so much lala.
Right after all that, a young 30s SWF who doh follow ball, buh was ketching de footage in de vicinity ask meh deadpan curious (in reference to Lalas) ... "What's Ginger's story?"
Ah nearly dead.
All these ESPN former american soccer players does remind me of bill O'riley on fox news network.
harks, wonalda , bill lee, julie foudy, and now this waste of ah fack, lal-ass! all ah dem real bulley-ish, super opinionated and dismissive! in other words, crude and rude!
All these ESPN former american soccer players does remind me of bill O'riley on fox news network.
harks, wonalda , bill lee, julie foudy, and now this waste of ah fack, lal-ass! all ah dem real bulley-ish, super opinionated and dismissive! in other words, crude and rude!
Just Cool, what you have to understand is that when ESPN looking for football analysts, they have certain criteria..
First and foremost they have to be American.. Secondly they have to be an ex-player/active player the audience can identify with... Thirdly, they have to have a personality that is palatable to an american audience, i.e. wild and excitable...
Example, like a Steven A. Smith, Charles Barkley or Kenny Smith in NBA, them fellahs does resonate with an American audience.
Unfortunately when yuh sift through the candidates and narrow down the pool to fit that profile yuh end up with an Alexi Lalas. For us who accustomed to and interested in football commentary focused on substance, this is a disgrace.. Especially for European analysts who have to sit alongside that and bite dey lip.
But is just that ESPN catering to an audience. Just thank yuh lucky stars them men ent commentating the whole actual games.
Greece could play, I don't know why they subscribe to this anti-football philosophy
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/TOuiZ3IJIMY
Yuh notice they put up Lalas Resume, like that suppose to convince yuh on the shyte he talking. Why did they not put up Ballack Resume? They would have had to cut away from studio and run a highlight reel.
All these ESPN former american soccer players does remind me of bill O'riley on fox news network.
harks, wonalda , bill lee, julie foudy, and now this waste of ah fack, lal-ass! all ah dem real bulley-ish, super opinionated and dismissive! in other words, crude and rude!
Just Cool, what you have to understand is that when ESPN looking for football analysts, they have certain criteria..
First and foremost they have to be American.. Secondly they have to be an ex-player/active player the audience can identify with... Thirdly, they have to have a personality that is palatable to an american audience, i.e. wild and excitable...
Example, like a Steven A. Smith, Charles Barkley or Kenny Smith in NBA, them fellahs does resonate with an American audience.
Unfortunately when yuh sift through the candidates and narrow down the pool to fit that profile yuh end up with an Alexi Lalas. For us who accustomed to and interested in football commentary focused on substance, this is a disgrace.. Especially for European analysts who have to sit alongside that and bite dey lip.
But is just that ESPN catering to an audience. Just thank yuh lucky stars them men ent commentating the whole actual games.
Yuh notice they put up Lalas Resume, like that suppose to convince yuh on the shyte he talking. Why did they not put up Ballack Resume? They would have had to cut away from studio and run a highlight reel.
They need to put up Ballack resume every time they show him on-screen?
I did not see it in that clip...............why did they put Lalas resume up? They don't have to, but if they are catering for US audience, then it may make greater sense to keep Ballacks resume at the forefront, showing him as not just another foreigner who can't speak english and plays soccer. ???
Yuh notice they put up Lalas Resume, like that suppose to convince yuh on the shyte he talking. Why did they not put up Ballack Resume? They would have had to cut away from studio and run a highlight reel.
They need to put up Ballack resume every time they show him on-screen?
I did not see it in that clip...............why did they put Lalas resume up? They don't have to, but if they are catering for US audience, then it may make greater sense to keep Ballacks resume at the forefront, showing him as not just another foreigner who can't speak english and plays soccer. ???
Yuh notice they put up Lalas Resume, like that suppose to convince yuh on the shyte he talking. Why did they not put up Ballack Resume? They would have had to cut away from studio and run a highlight reel.
They need to put up Ballack resume every time they show him on-screen?
I did not see it in that clip...............why did they put Lalas resume up? They don't have to, but if they are catering for US audience, then it may make greater sense to keep Ballacks resume at the forefront, showing him as not just another foreigner who can't speak english and plays soccer. ???
:rotfl: He was ready to play, no photo nonsense for him. The skipping makes it funnier.
:rotfl: He was ready to play, no photo nonsense for him. The skipping makes it funnier.
ent.....I cyar stop chuckling at dat shit
Yuh notice they put up Lalas Resume, like that suppose to convince yuh on the shyte he talking. Why did they not put up Ballack Resume? They would have had to cut away from studio and run a highlight reel.
They need to put up Ballack resume every time they show him on-screen?
I did not see it in that clip...............why did they put Lalas resume up? They don't have to, but if they are catering for US audience, then it may make greater sense to keep Ballacks resume at the forefront, showing him as not just another foreigner who can't speak english and plays soccer. ???
They showed Ballack's resumé in the first clip I posted.
Ah rel like how Poland eh backing down, is ah rel battle on the field. :duel:
All these ESPN former american soccer players does remind me of bill O'riley on fox news network.
harks, wonalda , bill lee, julie foudy, and now this waste of ah fack, lal-ass! all ah dem real bulley-ish, super opinionated and dismissive! in other words, crude and rude!
Thirdly, they have to have a personality that is palatable to an american audience, i.e. wild and excitable...
But is just that ESPN catering to an audience. Just thank yuh lucky stars them men ent commentating the whole actual games.
Ah rel like how Poland eh backing down, is ah rel battle on the field. :duel:
Czech Republic in trouble.....they eh sure to advance.
They need to put up Ballack resume every time they show him on-screen?
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Aside from that, saying that ESPN looking for "wild and exciteable" analysts is as nonsensical as calling Barkley and Kenny Smith "wild and exciteable". Barkley is in the TNT studio because he's funny and to an extent unpredictable. He's a great quote machine and has always been throughout his career. He's no different from Ray Hudson in that regard so to draw up some dichotomy of approach between supposedly "American tastes" and "our" footballing tastes on that point is simply dishonest.
ESPN appears to go after former US players who are "accomplished" and who have personality. In that regard Lalas fits the bill in his own limited way, perhaps moreso than any other US player current or retired. The problem with the ESPN approach is that they seem to be treating him (or allowing him to see himself) as some kinda expert, which he isn't. His resume pales in comparison to most of the other guests they employ (except he lacks the humility to recognize this... or otherwise thinks it insignificant), yet he opines in such a manner as to suggest that he is their equal or better.
All that said, I didn't think the exchange was as significant as men was making it out to be.
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All this talk, and the respective scorelines aside... we are seeing some real quality football at this tournament. Selassie was good in the first game for the Czech Republic... but he was brilliant tonight. Same for Jiracek or whatever the first goal scorer name is. For Greece, Samaras leave everything on the pitch tonight.
dis game is extra pace and spice boy!
Just the fact that there is a youtube clip of the interchange should tell you that we are not the only ones to find it a bit more than insignificant.
Just the fact that there is a youtube clip of the interchange should tell you that we are not the only ones to find it a bit more than insignificant.
Doh mind the naysayers.
Just the fact that there is a youtube clip of the interchange should tell you that we are not the only ones to find it a bit more than insignificant.
Doh mind the naysayers.
Both ah allyuh need to learn to read.
Well, here goes.....*sigh* ah hoping against all hope.....DHW, where you??
GO ORANJE!!!
:bringiton: :challenge: :duel: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:
:praying: :praying: :praying: :nailbiting: :nailbiting:
wha allyuh want ??? RUSKIN MARK ??... Well Well Well
All right, Germany!
Well, here goes.....*sigh* ah hoping against all hope.....DHW, where you??
GO ORANJE!!!
:bringiton: :challenge: :duel: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:
:praying: :praying: :praying: :nailbiting: :nailbiting:
I am here silently hoping for a miracle...
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All right, Germany!
Steups....
1-0 portugal 2th min
Will this be better or worse for Holland?
This is really the group of death yes.
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What a ting if Portugal and Holland win today. Everyone with 3 points, Germany vs Denmark and Holland vs Portugal on the last day.
What a ting if Portugal and Holland win today. Everyone with 3 points, Germany vs Denmark and Holland vs Portugal on the last day.
Then this group would really be living up to "G.O.D." expectations (even if I eh sure Denmark was really initially expected to be in them runnings). I think it's halfway there because Denmark look finished for the day. Dey eh showin' nothing going forward.
What a ting if Portugal and Holland win today. Everyone with 3 points, Germany vs Denmark and Holland vs Portugal on the last day.
Then this group would really be living up to "G.O.D." expectations (even if I eh sure Denmark was really initially expected to be in them runnings). I think it's halfway there because Denmark look finished for the day. Dey eh showin' nothing going forward.
Yuh'n see de score is 2-1 ah wha? :)
Lord he miss
Ronaldo better doh bring dem pull stones ting back to Madrid. :-[
Ronaldo need to be benched after that gifted chance. Denmark deserve this win screw portugal right now.
Goaaaal! Bram
damn lucky the Portguese are
damn lucky the Portguese are
I happy. At least I can celebrate one team today
damn lucky the Portguese are
I happy. At least I can celebrate one team today
Football can be a cruel sport.
i'm seeing some trends with some of the big name players (ronaldo, van persie). it's almost as if the pressure of delivering for their country makes them nervous and error prone in front of goal.
Football can be a cruel sport.
ANY sport can be cruel. As in life.
i'm seeing some trends with some of the big name players (ronaldo, van persie). it's almost as if the pressure of delivering for their country makes them nervous and error prone in front of goal.
Football can be a cruel sport.
ANY sport can be cruel. As in life.
Thanks... never really thought of that.
I really dh see why metro is the captain of theis Portuguese team. He does nothing that you expect a captain to do......but dize fuh another thread.....All dem goals today were beauties boy, yuh cyah vex wit either of the GK's, they really had zero chance on any of them.damn lucky the Portguese are
I happy. At least I can celebrate one team today
Me, to, because ah KNOW holland going down faster than a depth charge today!! :devil:
Denmark should have won.
Why no attempt to win it after they drew level?!?! >:(
damn lucky the Portguese are
I happy. At least I can celebrate one team today
Well yuh know dey say after joy is sorrow.
Denmark should have won.
Why no attempt to win it after they drew level?!?! >:(
Denmark should have won.
Why no attempt to win it after they drew level?!?! >:(
U know how long I ain't see u, glad u still alive
Denmark should have won.
Why no attempt to win it after they drew level?!?! >:(
I disappointed with them....they showed a lot of times that they could play well against Portugal, but throughout the game it was frustrating to watch them play around and lose the ball as often as they did in crucial areas (defensive AND offensive) of the field. Portugal realy defended well but Denmark helped them with some untimely poor touches sometimes.
Twellman sounds confident
Denmark should have won.
Why no attempt to win it after they drew level?!?! >:(
I disappointed with them....they showed a lot of times that they could play well against Portugal, but throughout the game it was frustrating to watch them play around and lose the ball as often as they did in crucial areas (defensive AND offensive) of the field. Portugal realy defended well but Denmark helped them with some untimely poor touches sometimes.
Yeah it was heartbreaking.
What is going on between Lalas and Ballack?
I cah take it. Bites nails
In the other Group B match today, Portugal beat Denmark 3-2. "After the Denmark-Portugal result," begins Simon McMahon, "a 3-2 win for Holland tonight followed by two 0-0 (or 1-1, 2-2 etc) draws in the final group games would see all three teams finish level on points with identical goals for and against. Maybe a long shot, but it could happen. What do the rules say?" Well, should this happen, it will go down to Uefa's magnificent national team coefficient ranking system. That would be good news for Germany (No3 in Uefa's system) and Portugal (No5) but not so good for Holland, or the Dutch, who are No 8, or Po' Denmark, a lowly No13. These coefficients are calculated by Michel Platini, who pulls the numbers out of the back of his trousers "multiplying each country's results from two and a half tournament cycles by their respective weighting factor, added up and divided by five (corresponding to the sum of the weighting factors)". England are No1, incidentally. Platini might actually pull the numbers from the back of his trousers.
Steups. Spirit over letter.
I cah take it. Bites nails
Doh worry, after Germany score de first goal and apply dat sodium pithental, yuh side eh go feel a thing after dat. Just relax and let the process flow. :devil:
the left back for holland and mathisen (sp) are having a poor game. also on the first goal where were van bommel and de jong...is 2 of them and schweinstiger still had all day to make that pass. them men letting de team down bad. 2nd half huntelaar and van der vaart coming on...take off de jong and prob afellay
Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Boy I feel deceived. I mean what really went on there dread?
De left back name is Wilhelm I believe, he's ah yute man.. ah think 19 years old. And yeah, he having a real bad game.
Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Boy I feel deceived. I mean what really went on there dread?
Mario Gomez with a fine example..... for all the naysayers that was tryin' to tell meh ah was talkin' shit about Balotelli shooting the ball last post from that angle.
De left back name is Wilhelm I believe, he's ah yute man.. ah think 19 years old. And yeah, he having a real bad game.Now turn 18. Youngest to ever play in the Euros.
man its like watching T&T play with the oranje
man its like watching T&T play with the oranje
nah it ent that bad...them men could trap the ball first time
Mario Gomez with a fine example..... for all the naysayers that was tryin' to tell meh ah was talkin' shit about Balotelli shooting the ball last post from that angle.
I know yuh coming with that.....but I will leave it alone. :beermug:
Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Boy I feel deceived. I mean what really went on there dread?
Mario Gomez with a fine example..... for all the naysayers that was tryin' to tell meh ah was talkin' shit about Balotelli shooting the ball last post from that angle.
I know yuh coming with that.....but I will leave it alone. :beermug:
....and I know yuh would leave it alone because there is nothing you (or anybody else) could say. Gomez proved the point I was making, plain as day. :beermug:
dat songin like d product of experience ;D ;)Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Boy I feel deceived. I mean what really went on there dread?
Is de long dress and high-heel shoes he had on did fool yuh.....yuh must look fuh de adam's apple, de hands and 5 o'clock shadow. :laugh:
Mario Gomez with a fine example..... for all the naysayers that was tryin' to tell meh ah was talkin' shit about Balotelli shooting the ball last post from that angle.
I know yuh coming with that.....but I will leave it alone. :beermug:
....and I know yuh would leave it alone because there is nothing you (or anybody else) could say. Gomez proved the point I was making, plain as day. :beermug:
Steups. Spirit over letter.
Which spirits de ones yuh seeing... or de ones yuh drinking?
dat songin like d product of experience ;D ;)Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Boy I feel deceived. I mean what really went on there dread?
Is de long dress and high-heel shoes he had on did fool yuh.....yuh must look fuh de adam's apple, de hands and 5 o'clock shadow. :laugh:
Mango - Gomez angle was different...
Mario Gomez with a fine example..... for all the naysayers that was tryin' to tell meh ah was talkin' shit about Balotelli shooting the ball last post from that angle.
I know yuh coming with that.....but I will leave it alone. :beermug:
....and I know yuh would leave it alone because there is nothing you (or anybody else) could say. Gomez proved the point I was making, plain as day. :beermug:
There are many points I can show, but Toppa will get mad at meh. ;D Take win if yuh want, but as seeker say, Gomes was more dynamic and we can look at the circumstances as to what allowed him to be so decisive, but not Ballotelli. Should and could are different things.
:beermug:
dat songin like d product of experience ;D ;)Never see a team fall flat like this after looking so good
It come like takin' a chick home from de club and findin' out she's a tra.......train wreck, eh? :devil:
Boy I feel deceived. I mean what really went on there dread?
Is de long dress and high-heel shoes he had on did fool yuh.....yuh must look fuh de adam's apple, de hands and 5 o'clock shadow. :laugh:
Yuh right! :laugh: yuh does see dem all over this city.Mango - Gomez angle was different...
Nice try, Kicker, but, "eehhhp! Wrong answer!" With how much ever of a difference in angle you found with your protractor, it changes nothing of what I said: All Balo had to do was blast the ball high or low last post and he was getting the same result.Mario Gomez with a fine example..... for all the naysayers that was tryin' to tell meh ah was talkin' shit about Balotelli shooting the ball last post from that angle.
I know yuh coming with that.....but I will leave it alone. :beermug:
....and I know yuh would leave it alone because there is nothing you (or anybody else) could say. Gomez proved the point I was making, plain as day. :beermug:
There are many points I can show, but Toppa will get mad at meh. ;D Take win if yuh want, but as seeker say, Gomes was more dynamic and we can look at the circumstances as to what allowed him to be so decisive, but not Ballotelli. Should and could are different things.
:beermug:
Yuh really takin' dat life line seeker trow fuh yuh eh.....and hiding behind Toppa on top (no pun intended) ah dat?! :laugh:
Seeker is kicks, oui! But seriously thogh, elan, yuh have no argument again. The point I made has nothing to do with "being more dynamic". Balotelli is a professional footballer of a very high standard with the same ability to have done with the ball what Gomez did today. It is simple fundamentals.
Allyuh start back agaaaaaain!
Mango - Gomez angle was different...
Nice try, Kicker, but, "eehhhp! Wrong answer!" With how much ever of a difference in angle you found with your protractor, it changes nothing of what I said: All Balo had to do was blast the ball high or low last post and he was getting the same result.
Mango - Gomez angle was different...
Nice try, Kicker, but, "eehhhp! Wrong answer!" With how much ever of a difference in angle you found with your protractor, it changes nothing of what I said: All Balo had to do was blast the ball high or low last post and he was getting the same result.
The opportunities on goal were not the same... they simply were not. The angles were different, the way Gomez ran onto the ball was different, the way the ball was played into him was different -it was just a different opportunity on goal... so I dunno how you know what the result woudla been? All a bunch of coulda woulda shoulda....Look I not saying Balo sholud not have gone for the far post...If you could see that from your TV, then we all know that's the right conclusion ;D..... but to assume that he would have had success based on Gomez's goal is very speculative.
Mango - Gomez angle was different...
Nice try, Kicker, but, "eehhhp! Wrong answer!" With how much ever of a difference in angle you found with your protractor, it changes nothing of what I said: All Balo had to do was blast the ball high or low last post and he was getting the same result.
The opportunities on goal were not the same... they simply were not. The angles were different, the way Gomez ran onto the ball was different, the way the ball was played into him was different -it was just a different opportunity on goal... so I dunno how you know what the result woudla been? All a bunch of coulda woulda shoulda....Look I not saying Balo sholud not have gone for the far post...If you could see that from your TV, then we all know that's the right conclusion ;D..... but to assume that he would have had success based on Gomez's goal is very speculative.
Well he said:
"All Balo had to do was blast the ball high or low last post and he was getting the same result."
That sound to me like he was assuming Balo woulda score...
Anyhow....
Or hor so dais how he end up in dey.....but Van Marwijck (sp?) couldn't find another defender with more experience??
- Could do better: Jetro Willems It's a bit harsh on the 18-year-old, but in truth he was chasing shadows and at fault for both of Germany's goals. The loss of Erik Pieters to injury pre-tournament is looking a greater blow with every game.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=334195&cc=3888 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=334195&cc=3888)
Well he said:
"All Balo had to do was blast the ball high or low last post and he was getting the same result."
That sound to me like he was assuming Balo woulda score...
Anyhow....
Elan...ah reading your last post again and from the content of it I come to realize.....yuh need to take some coaching coursess, jed....you will see some training methods and drills that would really enlighten you. Serious talk dey. :beermug:
Yuh grabbing at straws now elan. "things like that" coulda happen fuh Balotelli, too, had he pulled the trigger. All the work he did has nothing to do with anything. The fact remains, he ended up in the same position as Gomez did and was indecisive about what to do. THAT is what denied him his chance more than anything and also....Stekelenburg wasn't marking his first post any "harder" than Casillas and it is downright........silly to try and use Casillas' "pedigree" as a notion that Balotelli couldn'ta score on him from there because, as I said, goals does score on Casillas, to. Even on the goal he conceded he coulda done better (but I don't want to get into that) Come on, Jed, You really cyah be that..........stubborn. :beermug:
Or hor so dais how he end up in dey.....but Van Marwijck (sp?) couldn't find another defender with more experience??
- Could do better: Jetro Willems It's a bit harsh on the 18-year-old, but in truth he was chasing shadows and at fault for both of Germany's goals. The loss of Erik Pieters to injury pre-tournament is looking a greater blow with every game.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=334195&cc=3888 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=334195&cc=3888)
Typical wit de dutch. Dem always find a way to blame black players fuh dey failings
When it was Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf etc in de team...dem was too disruptive
Now it have a token black player in de team and dey still find a way to pin de blame on he
Meanwhile....not a peep bout Robben, Van Persie, Snjeider, Van Bommell etc
Typical :devil:
Yuh grabbing at straws now elan. "things like that" coulda happen fuh Balotelli, too, had he pulled the trigger. All the work he did has nothing to do with anything. The fact remains, he ended up in the same position as Gomez did and was indecisive about what to do. THAT is what denied him his chance more than anything and also....Stekelenburg wasn't marking his first post any "harder" than Casillas and it is downright........silly to try and use Casillas' "pedigree" as a notion that Balotelli couldn'ta score on him from there because, as I said, goals does score on Casillas, to. Even on the goal he conceded he coulda done better (but I don't want to get into that) Come on, Jed, You really cyah be that..........stubborn. :beermug:
Look at the two goals Cryonaldo miss today, he took your advice on both of them........must shoot on sight/site (pick one) and shoot for the back post. How'd that work out for him.
Look at the two goals Cryonaldo miss today, he took your advice on both of them........must shoot on sight/site (pick one) and shoot for the back post. How'd that work out for him.
I eh saying that Balo eh mess up. Yes he should have blast the ball. But for some reason he hesitated. I think he was in 2 minds. Shoot or pass the ball square. I think he was waiting for his other forward to come up. By that time he was stripped of the ball. Allyuh real hate Balotelli. Jeez. We have seen more experienced players throw way easier efforts in this very said tournament. Next time I hope he blast it and missed and then allyuh go say, " he too f--king selfish, he shoulda pass the ball right dey to the other man". And now everyone singing Gomez praises. But I have seen him go thru his funk this year. Today you is a hero, tomorrow you could be the goat. Imagine if Portugal game had tied, you think Madrid fans will say they don't want CR.
anybody have ah direct stream? atdhenet giving trouble in work
Im neutral for this game
Italy! 1nil.
Italy needs to beat Ireland nowIf we lose tonight Trap might just stand aside for his homeland.
f**king torres, 1nil espanaNow that shithong decides to score ::)
f**king torres, 1nil espanaNow that shithong decides to score ::)
1 min: Ireland kick-off, Cox Keane rolling it to Keane. That's a completed passes already. In your face Spain!
lol These people are the worst.
Torres looking hungry....
1 min: Ireland kick-off, Cox Keane rolling it to Keane. That's a completed passes already. In your face Spain!
lol These people are the worst.
:rotfl: :rotfl:Torres looking hungry....
How everybody lookin' hungry to you so, today, yuh sure is not YOU dat hungry? :laugh:
Ireland lucky that Torres loss he form... ::)
Torres is officially back
Torres is officially back
He is? Every time he score now he back? I thought he was back after de hat trick near the end of the season?
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Given at fault for two of those three goals.
Torres is officially back
He is? Every time he score now he back? I thought he was back after de hat trick near the end of the season?
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Given at fault for two of those three goals.
Oh gorm....why you so?? De man say "officially".......he was just back before..... ;D
Torres is officially back
He is? Every time he score now he back? I thought he was back after de hat trick near the end of the season?
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Given at fault for two of those three goals.
fabs score and buss a cuss oui. i woulda cuss too if i score and coach drop me for a man who woefully out of form
Scoring for chelsea don't count >:D
Mango look Fabregas now execute at the far post from an angle...
More instruction video for Balotelli... ;)
fabs score and buss a cuss oui. i woulda cuss too if i score and coach drop me for a man who woefully out of form
Fabregas kick that ball like he was vex in truth.
Scoring for chelsea don't count >:D
The first goal was boss... yuh cyah score if yuh doh shoot (more "hate" fuh Balo)... but Given has to do better in my mind, ball fly right between he hands... pace and all. The second Torres goal was class though, hard to tell at first blush how difficult a finish that was and he make it look easy. He's still ah rat bastard though.
Torres is officially back
He is? Every time he score now he back? I thought he was back after de hat trick near the end of the season?
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Given at fault for two of those three goals.
Torres is officially back
He is? Every time he score now he back? I thought he was back after de hat trick near the end of the season?
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Given at fault for two of those three goals.
Don't agree. Nothing Given could do about Fab's goals; that was a blast from close range. Yuh could argue about his positioning, bnut I not even buying that. For Torres' 2nd, Torres sort of hesitated on the 1v1 and that really puts a keeper off. The first goal came when Ireland's defence failed to clear their lines; ain't nothing Given could do bout that either.
Was it just me or were the matches today kind of boring compared to the others?
Albeit, I did not watch either of them, but still...
ok, oj Not just me then.Was it just me or were the matches today kind of boring compared to the others?
Albeit, I did not watch either of them, but still...
yeah someting was lacking...big lull's in beetween
Was it just me or were the matches today kind of boring compared to the others?
Albeit, I did not watch either of them, but still...
Was it just me or were the matches today kind of boring compared to the others?
Albeit, I did not watch either of them, but still...
How do you figure they were boring then?
Was it just me or were the matches today kind of boring compared to the others?
Albeit, I did not watch either of them, but still...
How do you figure they were boring then?
Ah just wasnt getting no vibes from the commentary ah was reading. And normally people woulda post and say "Ay this match is rel pace!"
Ah just wasnt getting no vibes from the commentary ah was reading. And normally people woulda post and say "Ay this match is rel pace!"
Both games were good.
Italy real ball in the 1st 45 then pop down in the 2nd half/Croatia figured them out - the football itself i the 2nd half wasn't very pleasing on the eye but it was a close contest.
Spain game was a clinic - not exciting from a competitive standpoint because of the gulf in class, but very very high level of quality from Spain - was nice to watch...and plenty goals too so not boring.
I only backin Fatima colours tomorrow.
Don't agree. Nothing Given could do about Fab's goals; that was a blast from close range. Yuh could argue about his positioning, bnut I not even buying that. For Torres' 2nd, Torres sort of hesitated on the 1v1 and that really puts a keeper off. The first goal came when Ireland's defence failed to clear their lines; ain't nothing Given could do bout that either.
For any of you wishing you were in Guyana's place right now, trust me, its worse being there and being totally outclassed than it is not being there.Tough luck dey worm. yuhs guys was up against the best team in football, so it's not so bad being out classed by the worlds champs.
Talking about Silva's goal - he rel shit up dem three defenders boy, waaaay!
For any of you wishing you were in Guyana's place right now, trust me, its worse being there and being totally outclassed than it is not being there.Tough luck dey worm. yuhs guys was up against the best team in football, so it's not so bad being out classed by the worlds champs.
as for the guyana comments, i am of the opinion that we could have gotten out the group with relative ease, "only if" we had a good program, a knowledgeable capable coach and staff, and time to gel as a team with the proper preparation. costa rica right now is not the costa rica of old, and el salvador is and has always been our bitch.
guyana on the other hand don't have much quality, you could give them pep gaurdiola and rijkard as his assistant and they would still bum, they just don't have the quality. now remember, a team with a plan is better than a team of talented players and no system. yes guyana beat us on that day, but the question is, could they do it on a consistent basis, and do they have more quality than us ? and i still maintain that the obvious answer to that is ah big fat no.
Backing France , just barely
Backing France , just barely
Aye DHW....where ah could get streaming for this?? ah cyar get on adthe.net.... :'( :'(
Backing France , just barely
Aye DHW....where ah could get streaming for this?? ah cyar get on adthe.net.... :'( :'(
Scroll and look for UEFA Euro 2012: Ukraine - France
http://www.rojadirecta.me/
Edit: this seems to be working , it in Spanish.
http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/vipracing6.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/stream-2.html
English
http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/livebroadcasings.blogspot.com/p/ch3.html
U will have to find a stable one
Evra bench yes..........Malouda too. :o
Backing France , just barely
But what de neck??!! I am actually hearing the thunder!!!....lawd fadder.... :o :o
stadium clear out oui...pressha by dat doubles stand
Game eh start back yet?? Ah cyar see nutten...
ukraine defence stifling menez and as usual he getting frustrated. he on a yellow and jump in to that tackle near the end of the half. i can't see blanc letting he play whole game, if i were blanc i woulda pull his tail off half time. question is who france have to play wide right
Mango Chow..............
England going and get taught a lesson.
England going and get taught a lesson.
Fuh ONCE we agree on sumting!! :laugh: Israel goin' and "liberate" the Palestinians now!
the French takes it with 2-0
Does anyone here support england?
Does anyone here support england?
only SM.......of whom I haven't seen much of lately..... :thinking: :thinking:
>:( Steuwps!!
>:( Steuwps!!
Co-signnnnnnn!!!!!..... :cursing: :cursing: :banginghead:
I eh goh lie eh....de goal sweet boy. The pass perfect......only problem is de side dat score it. I cyar revel fully in it........ :cursing:
>:( Steuwps!!
Co-signnnnnnn!!!!!..... :cursing: :cursing: :banginghead:
I eh goh lie eh....de goal sweet boy. The pass perfect......only problem is de side dat score it. I cyar revel fully in it........ :cursing:
Does anyone here support england?
>:( Steuwps!!
Co-signnnnnnn!!!!!..... :cursing: :cursing: :banginghead:
I eh goh lie eh....de goal sweet boy. The pass perfect......only problem is de side dat score it. I cyar revel fully in it........ :cursing:
i feel you on that one sis but i have to give credit where its due and it was a really nice goal, just dont understand why Zlatan seems to be a bit off
Made in Liverpool: Gerrard to Carroll! I more concerned bout seeing this next season. Carroll starting to look like the Pre-Liverpool player he was. ;D
>:( Steuwps!!
Co-signnnnnnn!!!!!..... :cursing: :cursing: :banginghead:
I eh goh lie eh....de goal sweet boy. The pass perfect......only problem is de side dat score it. I cyar revel fully in it........ :cursing:
i feel you on that one sis but i have to give credit where its due and it was a really nice goal, just dont understand why Zlatan seems to be a bit off
England cannot win this game, the gods are against it.
England cannot win this game, the gods are against it.
Does anyone here support england?
>:( Steuwps!!
Co-signnnnnnn!!!!!..... :cursing: :cursing: :banginghead:
I eh goh lie eh....de goal sweet boy. The pass perfect......only problem is de side dat score it. I cyar revel fully in it........ :cursing:
i feel you on that one sis but i have to give credit where its due and it was a really nice goal, just dont understand why Zlatan seems to be a bit off
Sweden's problem seems to be that Ibra is too far above his teammates....he has to skilled help and h'es doing all the work to get the ball into dangerous positions and get in the box to finish.....Sweden in dire need of some TALENT....nothing like their team from the '94 WC.
1-1 sweden tie it up
Ibrahimovic is a real dick boy.
Ibrahimovic cussing Hart hahahahahaha
How Walcott still in this team?
How Walcott still in this team?
I dunno nah... Hodgson like he trying ah ting ;D
How Walcott still in this team?
3 goals in 15 minutes. Lots of action for the fans.
Arsenal wish Walcott could do that deliberately. ::)
sssssttttteeeeuuuuuuppppsssss!!!!!... :cursing: :cursing:
And de better of the goals coming from Hengland.....double steups!!!! :cursing:
ibrah strong like a ox
ibrah strong like a ox
ibrah strong like a ox
69 min: It's Robben-esque at times from Ibrahimovic, who is only passing to a fellow Sweden player if he absolutely has to. What an exhibitionist. It's the Zlatan Show. Without much of an end product, mind you.
ibrah strong like a ox
and boldface like one, too...yuh see him goin' and takin' up Hart water bottle and drinkin' from it like is he own......aaafter he cuss up de man fuh no apparent reason... :D
Ibrah :beermug: he like a pest
ibrah strong like a ox
and boldface like one, too...yuh see him goin' and takin' up Hart water bottle and drinkin' from it like is he own......aaafter he cuss up de man fuh no apparent reason... :D
alyuh aint see that sweet forking goal from wellbeck :o
alyuh aint see that sweet forking goal from wellbeck :o
Really didn't think shitty Wellbeck had that in him... Great goal!
Gerard jumbie the man ball
Really didn't think shitty Wellbeck had that in him...Great goal!watch your mouth>:(
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Disappointed in Sweden
best game so far
best game so far
best game so far
Really didn't think shitty Wellbeck had that in him...Great goal!watch your mouth>:(
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Disappointed in Sweden
Ibra could not rely on his teammates today at all....too many bad passes and poor tackles (losing the ball) and England didn't relent. Every time Ibra touch the ball yuh expect something positive to happen and every time one of the others have the ball, is the opposite effect. Credit to England, though, they played well. This time.
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All i see is them man working the balls off and Ibra walking around the pitch. Three times he was 1v1 and could not beat his man, ok he made a couple of plays, but for a player of his status he eh help he team at all. People talking about CR body language as captain, Ibra worst. Once again he pull a Copperfield, when needed.
Really didn't think shitty Wellbeck had that in him...Great goal!watch your mouth>:(
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Disappointed in Sweden
Ibra could not rely on his teammates today at all....too many bad passes and poor tackles (losing the ball) and England didn't relent. Every time Ibra touch the ball yuh expect something positive to happen and every time one of the others have the ball, is the opposite effect. Credit to England, though, they played well. This time.
Made in Manchester :devil:
You serReally didn't think shitty Wellbeck had that in him...Great goal!watch your mouth>:(
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Disappointed in Sweden
Ibra could not rely on his teammates today at all....too many bad passes and poor tackles (losing the ball) and England didn't relent. Every time Ibra touch the ball yuh expect something positive to happen and every time one of the others have the ball, is the opposite effect. Credit to England, though, they played well. This time.
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All i see is them man working the balls off and Ibra walking around the pitch. Three times he was 1v1 and could not beat his man, ok he made a couple of plays, but for a player of his status he eh help he team at all. People talking about CR body language as captain, Ibra worst. Once again he pull a Copperfield, when needed.
We go agree to disagree....he was working very hard to bring up the ball all from midfield, make one-two passes, take on men....it hard to beat a man 1v1 when he have two men helping him....I didn't see Ibra pouting and preening like metro ALWAYS does. I don't even think metro celebrated any of Portugal's goals with his teammates, always choosing to cast himself aside like he upset it eh him getting glorified at that moment.....I digress...Ibra tried to take the game by the scruff of the neck but, to me, his teammates (but for 1 or 2 of them, starting with Isaksson) were not up to the task. :beermug:
best game so far
Men does hate on the EPL, but yuh gotta admit, it damn exciting. Forget bout technical quality; the frantic pace is real exciting. Not really an England selection fan, but good to see Steveie G play two in a row and come through unscathed, as well as to see Carroll score. Quandry for Hodgson: Carroll or Welbeck to partner Rooney? Or, does Rooney come off the bench for a 35-40 min run?
best game so far
Men does hate on the EPL, but yuh gotta admit, it damn exciting. Forget bout technical quality; the frantic pace is real exciting. Not really an England selection fan, but good to see Steveie G play two in a row and come through unscathed, as well as to see Carroll score. Quandry for Hodgson: Carroll or Welbeck to partner Rooney? Or, does Rooney come off the bench for a 35-40 min run?
Where was the EPL when they met Ligue 1 :devil:
best game so far
Men does hate on the EPL, but yuh gotta admit, it damn exciting. Forget bout technical quality; the frantic pace is real exciting. Not really an England selection fan, but good to see Steveie G play two in a row and come through unscathed, as well as to see Carroll score. Quandry for Hodgson: Carroll or Welbeck to partner Rooney? Or, does Rooney come off the bench for a 35-40 min run?
Where was the EPL when they met Ligue 1 :devil:
Dan, they finish 1-1, right?
best game so far
Men does hate on the EPL, but yuh gotta admit, it damn exciting. Forget bout technical quality; the frantic pace is real exciting. Not really an England selection fan, but good to see Steveie G play two in a row and come through unscathed, as well as to see Carroll score. Quandry for Hodgson: Carroll or Welbeck to partner Rooney? Or, does Rooney come off the bench for a 35-40 min run?
Where was the EPL when they met Ligue 1 :devil:
Dan, they finish 1-1, right?
His point was that it wasn't that exciting against France....as you say it is.
I doh hate on EPL eh but it annoying to hear ppl who talk like that's the only football it have going on in the world...And there are alot of those people.
btw Nice goal by Wellbeck jed! England deserved the win today - not a great performance but probably very close to as good as you'll get from this England line-up and a last minute manager installment.... and def the better side on the night. I expect them to beat Ukraine too.... in a heart-breaker as the home side will leave everything on the pitch...
That makes the three of us. france and england are my two euro teams, not now, but since gerres, tigana and tresaeu played for them, england bc of garth crooks, my all time favorite, plus i just love the EPL, the league with the best atmosphere.Does anyone here support england?
I right here too. Ah even wearing a English Jersey.
You have a disappointment to waste. any european team that could struggle against trinbago is ah goat team! sweden is the same team that let sh!t snake lawrence and CO put a grip on them, yes england struggled too, but england has since improved while sweden remained the same ole same ole.Really didn't think shitty Wellbeck had that in him...Great goal!watch your mouth>:(
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Disappointed in Sweden
Ibra could not rely on his teammates today at all....too many bad passes and poor tackles (losing the ball) and England didn't relent. Every time Ibra touch the ball yuh expect something positive to happen and every time one of the others have the ball, is the opposite effect. Credit to England, though, they played well. This time.
alyuh aint see that sweet forking goal from wellbeck :o
He learn dat from Drogba! ::)
alyuh aint see that sweet forking goal from wellbeck :o
He learn dat from Drogba! ::)
The celebration maybe.
alyuh aint see that sweet forking goal from wellbeck :o
He learn dat from Drogba! ::)
The celebration maybe.
eh-eh, doh try dat! Yuh fuget de pirouette back heel Drogba score a couple seasons back against (ah tink it was) arsenal ah wha?! Allyuh manu fans is some rel tief boy! :D Dize awright, tho....ah know somebody have it on Youtube.
You singing this same blasted song fuh de past 5 years... change yuh tune arready nah? Dat sound like ah real insecurity complex. We get it, allyuh like 101 5 yard passes with man stopping fuh siesta in de middle of the match. Nice.
The France match couldn't be played this way because Roy decided to play things more cautiously a) because the French midfield and attack deadly, b) because it was the opening match. Silly to be comparing the two matches when England decidedly did not play an EPL type of game, unless you believe Stoke football is representative of EPL football.
alyuh aint see that sweet forking goal from wellbeck :o
He learn dat from Drogba! ::)
The celebration maybe.
eh-eh, doh try dat! Yuh fuget de pirouette back heel Drogba score a couple seasons back against (ah tink it was) arsenal ah wha?! Allyuh manu fans is some rel tief boy! :D Dize awright, tho....ah know somebody have it on Youtube.
Is Arsenal-Chelsea yuh say
I mustbe have nothing to do.
I don't follow you about the insecurity complex... what is there to be insecure about? I watch and enjoy all good football and I personally try to be objective and appreciate it wherever it originates, with a little bias based on personal preference like everybody else, so I don't follow you. I support a team, not a league. I'm not one of them men who blindly backing a team from a particular league...
As for the England - France game, I wasn't calling for England to play any one way or the other - they played for a result and got it. Who eh like how they do it (even if that includes me), that's not England problem - them men there to do a job...
I was just giving my interpretation of what Elan was implying by responding to tenorsaw. England played an exciting game against Sweden and the plaudits of EPL's excitement factor came showering down... Elan reasonably (to me) asked "where was all that excitement the France game?" I doh see what the fuss is all about.
I am loving this Greek number 7,carving up the russian left hand sidedais samaras..he out a while now...the man have a real languid style
De worst ting is to see a player in ur fantasy side play an awful game...zhirkov smh
Russia better score of dey know what good fuh dem. :o
How is Russia out? Didn't they beat cezch 4-1 and draw 1-1 with Poland?
Czech top the group with 2 wins against Greece and Poland.
Greece lost to Czech, beat Russia, and tied with Poland.
That would mean Russia & Greece ended with 4 points each
So what's the first tie breaker? Couldn't be goal difference because Russia has plus 2 and Greece has a goal difference of zero. Has to be head to head which isn't "typical".
Unless Greece beat Poland which I don't remember happening but I must be wrong
How is Russia out? Didn't they beat cezch 4-1 and draw 1-1 with Poland?
Czech top the group with 2 wins against Greece and Poland.
Greece lost to Czech, beat Russia, and tied with Poland.
That would mean Russia & Greece ended with 4 points each
So what's the first tie breaker? Couldn't be goal difference because Russia has plus 2 and Greece has a goal difference of zero. Has to be head to head which isn't "typical".
Unless Greece beat Poland which I don't remember happening but I must be wrong
(a) Greater number of points obtained in the matches between the teams in question.
(b) Goal difference resulting from the matches between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal).
(c) Greater number of goals scored in the matches between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal).
(d) Goal difference in all the group matches.
(e) Greater number of goals scored in all the group matches.
(f) Higher position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking.
(g) Fair Play conduct of the teams (final tournament).
(h) A drawing of lots by the Organising Committee.
How is Russia out? Didn't they beat cezch 4-1 and draw 1-1 with Poland?
Czech top the group with 2 wins against Greece and Poland.
Greece lost to Czech, beat Russia, and tied with Poland.
That would mean Russia & Greece ended with 4 points each
So what's the first tie breaker? Couldn't be goal difference because Russia has plus 2 and Greece has a goal difference of zero. Has to be head to head which isn't "typical".
Unless Greece beat Poland which I don't remember happening but I must be wrong
(a) Greater number of points obtained in the matches between the teams in question.
(b) Goal difference resulting from the matches between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal).
(c) Greater number of goals scored in the matches between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal).
(d) Goal difference in all the group matches.
(e) Greater number of goals scored in all the group matches.
(f) Higher position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking.
(g) Fair Play conduct of the teams (final tournament).
(h) A drawing of lots by the Organising Committee.
Before the game, Greece knew if they won, they would qualify, Russia knew if they won or drew they would qualify. The system may suck, but everyone knew what was needed. Greece stood up and Russia wimped out.
Personally, I believe that Goal difference is the best "footballing" method. I don't like Head to Head as its based on one game, which may not reflect the other two game performances. For example, in the head to head game, you may miss several top players through injusy or suspension or a bad refereeing decision may hand a team a victory. These incidents would have less impact on a teams performance over 3 games.
Before the game, Greece knew if they won, they would qualify, Russia knew if they won or drew they would qualify. The system may suck, but everyone knew what was needed. Greece stood up and Russia wimped out.
Personally, I believe that Goal difference is the best "footballing" method. I don't like Head to Head as its based on one game, which may not reflect the other two game performances. For example, in the head to head game, you may miss several top players through injusy or suspension or a bad refereeing decision may hand a team a victory. These incidents would have less impact on a teams performance over 3 games.
Before the game, Greece knew if they won, they would qualify, Russia knew if they won or drew they would qualify. The system may suck, but everyone knew what was needed. Greece stood up and Russia wimped out.
Personally, I believe that Goal difference is the best "footballing" method. I don't like Head to Head as its based on one game, which may not reflect the other two game performances. For example, in the head to head game, you may miss several top players through injusy or suspension or a bad refereeing decision may hand a team a victory. These incidents would have less impact on a teams performance over 3 games.
I cannot beleive that I am agreeing with you again....I going and buy lotto
Well ah now reach and two things....
1. Imagine de team dat get de soundest cut arse in dey opening game, top de group and de team dat give de cut arse gone home.
2. How de arse de Czech player stop de ball from going in de net in de 92 min?? :o :o Mih mouth still hanging open.....
Before the game, Greece knew if they won, they would qualify, Russia knew if they won or drew they would qualify. The system may suck, but everyone knew what was needed. Greece stood up and Russia wimped out.
Personally, I believe that Goal difference is the best "footballing" method. I don't like Head to Head as its based on one game, which may not reflect the other two game performances. For example, in the head to head game, you may miss several top players through injusy or suspension or a bad refereeing decision may hand a team a victory. These incidents would have less impact on a teams performance over 3 games.
I don't follow you about the insecurity complex... what is there to be insecure about? I watch and enjoy all good football and I personally try to be objective and appreciate it wherever it originates, with a little bias based on personal preference like everybody else, so I don't follow you. I support a team, not a league. I'm not one of them men who blindly backing a team from a particular league...
As for the England - France game, I wasn't calling for England to play any one way or the other - they played for a result and got it. Who eh like how they do it (even if that includes me), that's not England problem - them men there to do a job...
I was just giving my interpretation of what Elan was implying by responding to tenorsaw. England played an exciting game against Sweden and the plaudits of EPL's excitement factor came showering down... Elan reasonably (to me) asked "where was all that excitement the France game?" I doh see what the fuss is all about.
I similarly doh see what the fuss is about Tenorsaw's comment either... he said you have to like the EPL brand of football, it's not always pretty, but it's exciting. Elan countered by mentioning the France game. My point is that England didn't play a typical "EPL game" versus France, but more a boring defensive, cautious game, hoping for the counter, ala Stoke City. So since this particular style isn't typical of the EPL game, you cannot use the France game to counter Tenor's point about the excitement of the EPL brand.
As for the "insecurity" comment... seems that every time a comment is made referencing the EPL as the best, most exciting etc. you are one of the first men to comment about bias towards the English game and it eh all dat and Spain better... I eh quoting yuh verbatim so leh we eh argue about what yuh actually say on those occasions. For me, fuh ah man to be doing that year after year says he still feels insecure about his preferred league... if you confident in your heart that La Liga is better then you wouldn't have to be defending it at every slight, real or imagined. Not saying this is what yuh doing, but just how I see it. Tenor want tuh praise he EPL woman... rock so with yuh bo-bo foot La Liga gyul and 'low de man nah ;D
Nah not me...Madrid is my side but if yuh check back I doh blindly fly no spanish league flag - that league have real issues with the way they handle TV rights that f-ing it up bad...look at the immense gap the Madrid and Barca open up over the pack in the last 5 or so seasons...it bordering on being a joke. Madrid is my side, and I admire alot about the style of many teams in Spain, but I doh put my head on a block for that league...They not doing a good job of keeping league competitive in my opinion...I does even get jones off the amateur production quality of the broadcasts..yuh can't get no vibes off plenty la liga games....But what does annoy me is the nonsensical statements I hear men make about the EPL (not tenorsaw's statement) that in my opinion are a reflection of an inferiority complex...Either way, I does siddong and watch my EPL (and la liga) every weekend because I just like football.
I think Elan's post was tongue in cheek...
Before the game, Greece knew if they won, they would qualify, Russia knew if they won or drew they would qualify. The system may suck, but everyone knew what was needed. Greece stood up and Russia wimped out.
Personally, I believe that Goal difference is the best "footballing" method. I don't like Head to Head as its based on one game, which may not reflect the other two game performances. For example, in the head to head game, you may miss several top players through injusy or suspension or a bad refereeing decision may hand a team a victory. These incidents would have less impact on a teams performance over 3 games.
Suppose Team A loses to Team B and and now both teams have one loss each. A rest 5 goals on de group minnow while B only scored 4 on them. Let's make it juicy, B really scored 6 but two goals negated by bad offside calls. So B should be ahead on goal differential but due to a foul up they trailing.
B lost it's only game in stoppage time... despite missing "several top players thru injury or suspension or bad refereeing decisions". Despite beating Team A, under your scenario Team B would not advance. How that better than head-to-head?
You lost me with all that verbage yes... I couldn't get past the table. The final goal differential isn't 5 to 4 in my scenario... 5 to 4 was the number of goals the teams respectively scored on the weakest team in the group. So by virtue of having scored more goals against the weakest team, A advances over B who defeated A in the head to head match up.
To make it more interesting, I used the same excuse you offered in the "one bad match" example... B would have scored more except they were missing players due to injury, suspension etc. Or in my exaggerated example... they actually scored more goals, but 2 goals were erroneously wiped out by poor officiating.
So A ends up with a superior goal differential thanks to fluky circumstances, and despite losing head to head to a team that was in every other regard equal or better. How is that fair?
So as I understand your scenario, Team A wins on goal difference. Why is that a problem? Man City won the EPL on a goal difference of 8. Now it could have happened that United beat City twice and City would still be Champions. Traditionally, its always been points, then goal difference. Although I believe there was something called goal average at one time, but I can't remember how that worked or if it was the same mathematic, just named differently.
Goal difference, in my opinion, encourages teams to go for more goals rather than sit back on a 1-0 and park the bus.
A scenario for Group D could be that if France lose to Sweden 4-0 and England draw with Ukraine, France will go forward as they beat Ukraine, yet Ukraine would have the better overall record.
But I'm wondering about Group B. If Spain and Croatia draw 0-0 and Italy win 2-0, the 3 teams will have 5 points. Croatia and Italy would both have a plus 2 g/d and scored and conceded exactly the same goals. So which team goes forward?
Because football games are effectively won by scoring more goals. Therefore, it follows that tournaments should be won the same way. A team may play out of their skins in one match and average in the others, while another team could play well in all games, yet have some bad luck in one game. Whether it be 3 games or 38 games, I think the team with the best goal difference deserves to win.
But whatever the case, all teams know the rules when they enter, so they can't complain. I just prefer goal difference to head to head.
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
Denmark and Portugal going home today! Watch thing.. ORANJE!
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
Well I never.....yuh jump ship on mih??!! :o smh..... :(Denmark and Portugal going home today! Watch thing.. ORANJE!
Thanks eh Jumbie.....ah thought ah was alone.....well here goes....
GO ORANJE!!!!!
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :nailbiting: :nailbiting: :nailbiting: :nailbiting: :nailbiting:
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
ronaldo always wants to "prove" himself.....holland go mash dem up today!! (:praying:)
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
ronaldo always wants to "prove" himself.....holland go mash dem up today!! (:praying:)
My one father's day wish is for a Holland win and a Denmark draw, preferably a 0-0. Gomez mashing up man fantasy league and Holland or Portugal in the knockout phase will be pressure
Ronaldo!! I called it
Waaay Portugal turning up pace. Holland struggling. Shooting gallery
Ronaldo mouth watering
Cameraman wukking!!! ;D
Cameraman wukking!!! ;D
Yuh SEE dat, eh?! Ah swicth to the Germany-Denmark game JUST in time! :laugh:
This Dutch defending is absolutely abysmal
Cameraman wukking!!! ;D
Yuh SEE dat, eh?! Ah swicth to the Germany-Denmark game JUST in time! :laugh:
What ah a miss?
Cameraman wukking!!! ;D
Yuh SEE dat, eh?! Ah swicth to the Germany-Denmark game JUST in time! :laugh:
What ah a miss?
Doh study it, horse....gwan and watch yuh portugal, traitor.
Germany not moving as much as they were in the first half, turning into one guy trying too much and getting caught out. Tehy have to score to come thru unscathed.
Ronaldo! Ah tell Alyuh so!
2nil
This Dutch defending is absolutely abysmal
*sigh* I just speechless....de man dat marking Ronaldo looking like he fraid him. And doh get mih started on de young boy Jetro. I eh know what Van Marwijk was thinking to bring him to this tournament......
*sigh let mih goh and get ready for the next 45 mins. Something telling mih it goh be painful..... :( :(
Ah shame.....dis is de worst, worse, worser Dutch team I've ever seen in my life.....lawd fadder. Ah gone on you tube to find some old Dutch football games.....and remember what used to be.....
:'( :'( :( :banginghead:
Hmmmn...Germany just one goal away from an improbable exit.now two goals
Hmmmn...Germany just one goal away from an improbable exit.now two goals
Nani and Ronaldo killing them!
Portugal not going past the 1/4s
Oh gorm , Ronaldo looking dread today. :o
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
Ah shame.....dis is de worst, worse, worser Dutch team I've ever seen in my life.....lawd fadder. Ah gone on you tube to find some old Dutch football games.....and remember what used to be.....
:'( :'( :( :banginghead:
My crystal ball crack after the first holland game. Taking ah chance with Portugal, Ronaldo wants to prove himself, holland will choke.
:heehee:
Ronaldo finally arrived!
Ah shame.....dis is de worst, worse, worser Dutch team I've ever seen in my life.....lawd fadder. Ah gone on you tube to find some old Dutch football games.....and remember what used to be.....
:'( :'( :( :banginghead:
dey miss man like edgar pitbull davids in de midfield today lol. i ent even see the game but just from highlights i see de dutch was with dey arrogant defending again. cant wait for the inquest into this tourney. how a team that race thru qualifications could implode so spectacularly??
Hmmmn...Germany just one goal away from an improbable exit.
Ronaldo geh on today boy!! :beermug: Good game :beermug:
Ah shame.....dis is de worst, worse, worser Dutch team I've ever seen in my life.....lawd fadder. Ah gone on you tube to find some old Dutch football games.....and remember what used to be.....:timeout: That is the same ducth team that had yuh waving yuh flag in the 2010 WC in SA, the same team that beat everyone and made it to the final, the only changes on that team is the left back the lil black boy w/villiam, and they exchange he for the next black boy ellia who was an attacking left side player, and that yuteman eh let in no set ah goals.
:'( :'( :( :banginghead:
Portugal not going past the 1/4sLike you forget this is the euros, i would not be surprise if greece and protugal make the finals again, if not, germany look real good to take it, but i still backing england and france though.
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Ronaldo geh on today boy!! :beermug: Good game :beermug:
That's like going to a strip club with a hand full of $100 bills and then boasting you had all the girls in the club vibezing yuh.
Croatia and Italy need a win right?
Ronaldo geh on today boy!! :beermug: Good game :beermug:
That's like going to a strip club with a hand full of $100 bills and then boasting you had all the girls in the club vibezing yuh.
not sure I understand the significance but funny nonetheless ;D ;D
Croatia and Italy need a win right?
no spain need to win and italy need to win. If croatia beats spain italy will be out
Ronaldo geh on today boy!! :beermug: Good game :beermug:
That's like going to a strip club with a hand full of $100 bills and then boasting you had all the girls in the club vibezing yuh.
not sure I understand the significance but funny nonetheless ;D ;D
Think he was trying to say that C Ronaldo is far superior to the rest f the Dutch team. :)
Ronaldo geh on today boy!! :beermug: Good game :beermug:
That's like going to a strip club with a hand full of $100 bills and then boasting you had all the girls in the club vibezing yuh.
not sure I understand the significance but funny nonetheless ;D ;D
Think he was trying to say that C Ronaldo is far superior to the rest f the Dutch team. :)
lol......not really
See the difference without Ballotelli up top? Not as dynamic centrally
What about that yellow for that stupid "tackle" a sec ago? If that was Ballotelli.............
Actually, its even more than that. If Spain and Croatia draw 2-2, it makes no difference if Italy wins, they (Italy) are out. Apparently, if Italy, Croatia and Spain all end up on 5 points, it goes by the goals scored in the head to head meeting between those three teams (in effect, a mini league), then goal difference. If the half time scores were to stay as is for full time with Italy winning 1-0 and Spain and Croatia tied at 0-0, the Italians will win the group followed by Spain....reason? well, Italy would have score 2 goals within the mini league of Itlay, Croatia and Spain, while Spain and Croatia would have scored 1 each. Spain would go ahead of Croatia based on overall goal difference. I find that a little messed up , as goal difference is the normal criteria, but I guess the idea is to not use the weak team in the group as the whipping boys to advance.Croatia and Italy need a win right?
no spain need to win and italy need to win. If croatia beats spain italy will be out
thanks
Does Modric ever use his left?
GOAL! Italy 2-0 Republic of Ireland (Balotelli 90) A wonderful, wonderful goal from the Manchester City striker. A corner swung in and an acrobatic volley crisper and sweeter than a Granny Smith apple
good anticipation by bonnucci to cover balo's mouth..i think balo was going to mouth off to the coach...nice play bonbon
Ah wonder what Lalas has to say about that goal?Absolutely nothing! don't you know that lalas is ah closet racist?
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ah want to feel Luca Modric have a " Best of Russell Latapy DVD"
really like to watch the little man play
That defender tried all HOW to foul Balo....in fact, he mighta even help de man....sweet, goal.
good anticipation by bonnucci to cover balo's mouth..i think balo was going to mouth off to the coach...nice play bonbon
I think he was gonna cuss out the crowd
good anticipation by bonnucci to cover balo's mouth..i think balo was going to mouth off to the coach...nice play bonbon
I think he was gonna cuss out the crowd
yea true..
just read that he said "you are all sons of b...." then bonnucci blocked his mouth....
my boy mario lol ah love him
Sweet friggin goal... clinical finish.
...but still, what ah imps... he was about tuh spoil de moment by making some jackass comment. Bonucci save him. If I was de coach ah woulda bench he ass next game.
Under all the old talk. Croatia for a country of only 3 million people, does produce some serious ballers. Hard luck today!
Under all the old talk. Croatia for a country of only 3 million people, does produce some serious ballers. Hard luck today!
The 6 republics of the former Yugos. are really good at sports. Don't forget basketball. I was so pissed off when that civil war tore the country apart. I was so ignorant to the fact that such hatred existed among the different ethnic groups.
Under all the old talk. Croatia for a country of only 3 million people, does produce some serious ballers. Hard luck today!
Under all the old talk. Croatia for a country of only 3 million people, does produce some serious ballers. Hard luck today!
The 6 republics of the former Yugos. are really good at sports. Don't forget basketball. I was so pissed off when that civil war tore the country apart. I was so ignorant to the fact that such hatred existed among the different ethnic groups.
He was still able to not only make his comment, but confirm afterwards what he was saying. Big deal. Life goes on and he still will play again for Italy beacause a REAL coach (that actually KNOWS football and not no jackass like you) knows how to manage his players properly.
For real, I used to run ball (FF and a few others as well) w/some Serbians in NY, doh make de mistake and call dem croats or odderwise, even by accident
What a goal boy. Man gettin pulled down and he recalculate and still meet the ball perfectly.
He really so vex he get bench? What a baby.
That defender tried all HOW to foul Balo....in fact, he mighta even help de man....sweet, goal.
This thread got real quiet after that goal oui! lol
Ah vex the player block Balo's mouth, then we woulda have something to talk about! ::) ;D
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He was still able to not only make his comment, but confirm afterwards what he was saying. Big deal. Life goes on and he still will play again for Italy beacause a REAL coach (that actually KNOWS football and not no jackass like you) knows how to manage his players properly.
I wish I was a betting man.
Now fuh Elan's response...For real, I used to run ball (FF and a few others as well) w/some Serbians in NY, doh make de mistake and call dem croats or odderwise, even by accident
Haha... good talk. One ah mih pardnas from school name Pedja and he's Serbian. When ah first meet him ah looking at he name (thinking of Stojakovic) and features ah ask him if he Croatian... de man recoil like ah calling ah bullerman yes :rotfl:
What a goal boy. Man gettin pulled down and he recalculate and still meet the ball perfectly.
He really so vex he get bench? What a baby.
No one called RVP ah baby de other day.
I wish I was a betting man.
Now fuh Elan's response...
Wah Ballotelli say
He was still able to not only make his comment, but confirm afterwards what he was saying. Big deal. Life goes on and he still will play again for Italy beacause a REAL coach (that actually KNOWS football and not no jackass like you) knows how to manage his players properly.
I wish I was a betting man.
good anticipation by bonnucci to cover balo's mouth..i think balo was going to mouth off to the coach...nice play bonbon
Nuff trinidadians does behave so too, only without the violence. let any white man or black american walk up and ask a trini if he from barbados, guyna or grenada and 8 out of 10 times is cuss fuh so.He was still able to not only make his comment, but confirm afterwards what he was saying. Big deal. Life goes on and he still will play again for Italy beacause a REAL coach (that actually KNOWS football and not no jackass like you) knows how to manage his players properly.
I wish I was a betting man.
Now fuh Elan's response...For real, I used to run ball (FF and a few others as well) w/some Serbians in NY, doh make de mistake and call dem croats or odderwise, even by accident
Haha... good talk. One ah mih pardnas from school name Pedja and he's Serbian. When ah first meet him ah looking at he name (thinking of Stojakovic) and features ah ask him if he Croatian... de man recoil like ah calling ah bullerman yes :rotfl:
If it was in english then maybe it was meant for the english press or the irish fans who booed him when he came on.good anticipation by bonnucci to cover balo's mouth..i think balo was going to mouth off to the coach...nice play bonbon
I had missed (and :( will continue to miss, henceforth) the games so I was ketchin' up on espn and foxsoccer....initial reports, one of his teammates (cyah remember which one, most likely it is bonnucci) said he was yelling "you bitches!" at someone/people/whoever......mighta been directed at the coach, I dunno, but who knows. Subsequent reports have men saying "...Mario spoke in English so I don't know what he said..." On the surface, Balo's Italian teammates really seem to like him and willing to do their partto protect him and foster an environment for him to grow. The coach have to play his part in that and of course and most importantly, so does Balo. His teammates understand that Balo's.....unpredictability is both his strength and his weakness. Hopefully he WILL continue to grow from/amongst all this.
Balo reminds me of Stoichkov Excellent baller, with plenty of attitude. Which in fact contributes to his football brilliance. Stoichkov use to cuss up referee, linesman, coach, president, physio who ever, get red card fuh fun and was nasty pri*k. He would not hesitate to shove an elbow down your throat or break a man leg. In truth Balo mild compared to Hristo.
I wish I was a betting man.
Now fuh Elan's response...
Wah Ballotelli say
He say ah shoulda play de Daily Double.
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Euro 2012: Croatia fined for Mario Balotelli racial abuse
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18461087
Ukraine 2 - England 2
Ukraine 2 - England 2
I'd take that!
england and france to go through.
this is the best international tournament around yes.
nike viral celebrating blue eyes. we go see if he time is now.
http://www.youtube.com/v/jvTv_oatLA0
Ukraine 2 - England 2
I'd take that!
But if Sweden win 2-0 and England lose 1-0, who would qualify out of England/France? Head to head equal, goal difference equal? Think it then goes on some computation of qualifying statistics? Probably be France!
Realisticly France are through and Ukraine have to win to join them.
But the result England need is a win while France lose, that way England play Italy which I would prefer to Spain!
Stinking Croats they and the Dutty Nasty Serbians..killing each other, cutting throats. And I went Bosnia-Hercegovina to bring stability there. Plenty Croats and Serbs and BosniaksBreds, not with the religious rhetoric again! :frustrated: i understand yuh don't check fuh no god business, but @ least be fair.
MUslims versus the rest..religious glory..... Serbians worse than he Croats though
How he time go be now and only playing one game?
Balo reminds me of Stoichkov Excellent baller, with plenty of attitude. Which in fact contributes to his football brilliance. Stoichkov use to cuss up referee, linesman, coach, president, physio who ever, get red card fuh fun and was nasty pri*k. He would not hesitate to shove an elbow down your throat or break a man leg. In truth Balo mild compared to Hristo.
Nah Ballotelli is ah clown, ask these saints on here.
england and france to go through.
Ok, so how allyuh calling it?
England to beat Ukraine and qualify?
Rooney to make an impact?
Nah Ballotelli is ah clown, ask these saints on here.
So every controversy Balotelli find heself in (backheel goal, petulant fouls, untimely red cards, sideline blowups) is justified because some opposing fans racially abuse him? You miss yuh calling yes dred, lol
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Ukraine all over England like a bad rash.
England is over rated ..name one , just one English player you would put on a world 11.
Just one.
England is over rated ..name one , just one English player you would put on a world 11.
Just one.
Peter Crouch
Ibramovich scored a cracker..Sweden 1 France ZERO!
Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
ibra when it doh matter good damn goal doh
Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
Exactly. First time a goal-line official gets called upon in the entire tournament and he messes it up! Bring in the cameras i say!
England showed how to play kick ball without a midfield and win.
However in listening to Ballack, it will be tough to stop the game to view the replay to see if a ball crossed the line or not since in football there's usually continuous play. I'm all for goal line technology but should the ref stop the game to go look at the cameras?Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
Yuh damn right!
England showed how to play kick ball without a midfield and win.
That non-existent midfield of Gerrard and Parker frustrated Ukraine whole game... on both ends. Imagine if they actually had a midfield.
However in listening to Ballack, it will be tough to stop the game to view the replay to see if a ball crossed the line or not since in football there's usually continuous play. I'm all for goal line technology but should the ref stop the game to go look at the cameras?Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
Yuh damn right!
However in listening to Ballack, it will be tough to stop the game to view the replay to see if a ball crossed the line or not since in football there's usually continuous play. I'm all for goal line technology but should the ref stop the game to go look at the cameras?Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
Yuh damn right!
You guys ever been to a store with security sensors at the door? The ball would have chips and the sensors could omit a noise or a light if the ball crossed the line. No need to stop the game. Its either a goal or its not!
I think you need to fix yuh rabbit ears on yuh tv, cause Ukraine was frustrated on top the 18, not in midfield.
@ Bakes re: the studio team ...
yeah because one moment in time is synonymous with forever?! No one suggested that there were permanently at loggerheads etc. The comments were rooted in the tension of that moment. You should try singing Kumbayah sometime. lol.
Ukraine all over England like a bad rash.
these ladies doh appreciate that analogy.
ukraine is not a brothel!
http://bit.ly/NNqrV0
England is over rated ..name one , just one English player you would put on a world 11.I'll name three. ashley cole, one of the best left side full backs in the world, with a FA cup and a champions league medal to prove it, and you don't win a champion's league title and not go up against the best attackers money could buy.
Just one.
Well if they go that route well that's an option, I knew they were doing some tests on placing a chip on the ball but I haven't heard the latest as to how accurate it is.However in listening to Ballack, it will be tough to stop the game to view the replay to see if a ball crossed the line or not since in football there's usually continuous play. I'm all for goal line technology but should the ref stop the game to go look at the cameras?Ukraine should have equalized... ball was over the line before Terry cleared it. But offside should have been called on the play anyways... justice is served..
ignoring the first offside... what is the point of the dem byline officials, if dey cyah see dat. Waste of time!
Yuh damn right!
You guys ever been to a store with security sensors at the door? The ball would have chips and the sensors could omit a noise or a light if the ball crossed the line. No need to stop the game. Its either a goal or its not!
I think you need to fix yuh rabbit ears on yuh tv, cause Ukraine was frustrated on top the 18, not in midfield.
I think yuh need to fix de yampi in yuh eye... I said the midfielders frustrated them "on both ends". Ashley Young was eating de the Ukrainian right back lunch whole game, including on the cross to Rooney that he missed. Gerrard sent dangerous cross after dangerous cross into the box, including skinning out the Ukrainian left back to cross for Rooney to score.
Defensively their impact wasn't as great, Ukraine had their way early, but then the midfield settled down. Milner knew enough of his limitations so as to not get too far forward and stretch the shape. Parker was hustling all over to try and clog the channels and limit time on the ball for the Ukraine. Not enough to stop them completely, but as I said, enough to frustrate them. You could disagree, but your objectivity is lacking, so I not worrying about you too much with that "winning without a midfield" talk.
I think you need to fix yuh rabbit ears on yuh tv, cause Ukraine was frustrated on top the 18, not in midfield.
I think yuh need to fix de yampi in yuh eye... I said the midfielders frustrated them "on both ends". Ashley Young was eating de the Ukrainian right back lunch whole game, including on the cross to Rooney that he missed. Gerrard sent dangerous cross after dangerous cross into the box, including skinning out the Ukrainian left back to cross for Rooney to score.
Defensively their impact wasn't as great, Ukraine had their way early, but then the midfield settled down. Milner knew enough of his limitations so as to not get too far forward and stretch the shape. Parker was hustling all over to try and clog the channels and limit time on the ball for the Ukraine. Not enough to stop them completely, but as I said, enough to frustrate them. You could disagree, but your objectivity is lacking, so I not worrying about you too much with that "winning without a midfield" talk.
Wait my objectivity is lacking but yours not? You marking these papers or what. Fella out with you yes.
@ Bakes re: the studio team ...
yeah because one moment in time is synonymous with forever?! No one suggested that there were permanently at loggerheads etc. The comments were rooted in the tension of that moment. You should try singing Kumbayah sometime. lol.
ASSilentReeker... the "moment" was "not as significant as men making it out to be". Yuh should try reading comprehension sometime. And yeah, lol.
England is over rated ..name one , just one English player you would put on a world 11.I'll name three. ashley cole, one of the best left side full backs in the world, with a FA cup and a champions league medal to prove it, and you don't win a champion's league title and not go up against the best attackers money could buy.
Just one.
wayne rooney, could you honestly tell me that there are five better forwards in the world ? i rate rooney in the top five best forwards in the world, the boy good.
when yuh talking bout speedy efficient wingers the first thing comes to mind is ashley young! the fella have skills fuh days, he's quick, he's smart and he scores crucial goals. there's my three.
Wait my objectivity is lacking but yours not? You marking these papers or what. Fella out with you yes.
Wait my objectivity is lacking but yours not? You marking these papers or what. Fella out with you yes.
Absolutely! You de one saying England had no midfield today. Yuh Four Four Two image eh helping yuh either... because it shows England completing 82% of its passes, with Ukraine completing 85%. What yuh wha we take and leave?
I understood fully the nuanced wording from the inception ... indeed, to that end, I tailored my comments with the hollow distinction in mind ... so deflect yuh monotonal reading comprehension drivel appropriately. Hence, I stated subsequently ... spirit of your comments over the letter of the comments. Subject that to any level scrutiny yuh want.
Finally, who the arse appointed you the arbiter of significant or insignificant ... it's subjective. It's also not insignificant that there are several views on the matter that depart from yours. Buh, that's immaterial.
However, for some reason, you found it necessary to resuscitate a breathless issue.
I noted the collegial exchange today. Probably you did too ... it still has no impact on the preceding event or perceptions that flowed from it.
Bakes doh cuss me eh....but did you look at where those passes happened for both teams?
Big Up!
The mighty England has not gone into the quarter finals at this tournament since 1996??!! :o :o
Big side dread ::) ::)......overrated no arse!!! Imagine dem praying not to meet Spain in the quarters.....steups!!.....Cyar wait for dem to go home......pretenders!!!....
The mighty England has not gone into the quarter finals at this tournament since 1996??!! :o :o
Big side dread ::) ::)......overrated no arse!!! Imagine dem praying not to meet Spain in the quarters.....steups!!.....Cyar wait for dem to go home......pretenders!!!....
The mighty England has not gone into the quarter finals at this tournament since 1996??!! :o :o
Big side dread ::) ::)......overrated no arse!!! Imagine dem praying not to meet Spain in the quarters.....steups!!.....Cyar wait for dem to go home......pretenders!!!....
Where Holland? :heehee:
The mighty England has not gone into the quarter finals at this tournament since 1996??!! :o :o
Big side dread ::) ::)......overrated no arse!!! Imagine dem praying not to meet Spain in the quarters.....steups!!.....Cyar wait for dem to go home......pretenders!!!....
Where Holland? :heehee:
England were poor, very poor. They looked to struggle when they recover the ball from a very deep defending position. Technically the could not come out of that compact shape The only time they really look dangerous is on Gerrard's set plays. His delivery has been excellent.
England could very well pull off a Greece, but as far as footballing quality :puking:
PS Just Cool, IMHO opinion, I have yet to see Rooney perform at the Inetrnational level at a major tournament. As for Young being classed as World Class, Please!
The mighty England has not gone into the quarter finals at this tournament since 1996??!! :o :o
Big side dread ::) ::)......overrated no arse!!! Imagine dem praying not to meet Spain in the quarters.....steups!!.....Cyar wait for dem to go home......pretenders!!!....
The mighty England has not gone into the quarter finals at this tournament since 1996??!! :o :o
Big side dread ::) ::)......overrated no arse!!! Imagine dem praying not to meet Spain in the quarters.....steups!!.....Cyar wait for dem to go home......pretenders!!!....
they got those facts wrong... England lost to Portugal on penalty kicks in quarters in Euro 04.
2nd Choice Steve famously failed to qualify them for Euro 08
I understood fully the nuanced wording from the inception ... indeed, to that end, I tailored my comments with the hollow distinction in mind ... so deflect yuh monotonal reading comprehension drivel appropriately. Hence, I stated subsequently ... spirit of your comments over the letter of the comments. Subject that to any level scrutiny yuh want.
Finally, who the arse appointed you the arbiter of significant or insignificant ... it's subjective. It's also not insignificant that there are several views on the matter that depart from yours. Buh, that's immaterial.
However, for some reason, you found it necessary to resuscitate a breathless issue.
I noted the collegial exchange today. Probably you did too ... it still has no impact on the preceding event or perceptions that flowed from it.
Who de ASS invited you to opine on my opinion that it was or wasn't significant? Oh wait, that ASS was you who invited yuhself... righto. And nutten wrong with that, since is only opinions being exchanged... therefore no need for your ASShole comment about "arbiter" and all dat ASSholery. However, the fact that they've carried on without a thought or incident since mitigates in favor of the notion that it really "wasn't as significant as men making it out to be". The "distinction" isn't the only thing hollow that yuh offering, so doh get hang up on dat.
Wait my objectivity is lacking but yours not? You marking these papers or what. Fella out with you yes.
Absolutely! You de one saying England had no midfield today. Yuh Four Four Two image eh helping yuh either... because it shows England completing 82% of its passes, with Ukraine completing 85%. What yuh wha we take and leave?
Bakes doh cuss me eh....but did you look at where those passes happened for both teams?
Big Up!
Who de ASS invited you to opine on my opinion that it was or wasn't significant? Oh wait, that ASS was you who invited yuhself... righto. And nutten wrong with that, since is only opinions being exchanged... therefore no need for your ASShole comment about "arbiter" and all dat ASSholery. However, the fact that they've carried on without a thought or incident since mitigates in favor of the notion that it really "wasn't as significant as men making it out to be". The "distinction" isn't the only thing hollow that yuh offering, so doh get hang up on dat.
Haul yuh equivocating, obtuse, pontificating cxnt.
To be sure it was you who not too long ago quite rightly pointed out on another thread that our venue is a public forum and opinions and comment are inherently to arrive from whosoever chooses to comment. Not that we needed any clarification ... but I'm glad you chimed in on that. Here, similarly, I chose to comment.
Hollow indeed.
The fact that they have carried on as professionally as they have is NOT decidedly conclusive or unpredictable, even to those who found the incident(s) amusing and intriguing.
Wait my objectivity is lacking but yours not? You marking these papers or what. Fella out with you yes.
Absolutely! You de one saying England had no midfield today. Yuh Four Four Two image eh helping yuh either... because it shows England completing 82% of its passes, with Ukraine completing 85%. What yuh wha we take and leave?
Who de ASS invited you to opine on my opinion that it was or wasn't significant? Oh wait, that ASS was you who invited yuhself... righto. And nutten wrong with that, since is only opinions being exchanged... therefore no need for your ASShole comment about "arbiter" and all dat ASSholery. However, the fact that they've carried on without a thought or incident since mitigates in favor of the notion that it really "wasn't as significant as men making it out to be". The "distinction" isn't the only thing hollow that yuh offering, so doh get hang up on dat.
Haul yuh equivocating, obtuse, pontificating cxnt.
To be sure it was you who not too long ago quite rightly pointed out on another thread that our venue is a public forum and opinions and comment are inherently to arrive from whosoever chooses to comment. Not that we needed any clarification ... but I'm glad you chimed in on that. Here, similarly, I chose to comment.
Hollow indeed.
The fact that they have carried on as professionally as they have is NOT decidedly conclusive or unpredictable, even to those who found the incident(s) amusing and intriguing.
If ever there was an example of an educated dunce, you would be front and center as both flag woman and flag bearer. There is no need to mention that comments on public forums invite responses... unless yuh just beholden to sound/sight of your own words. I myself said so then, and said so today, to wit: "And nutten wrong with that, since is only opinions being exchanged...", but you rather carry on using ah setta words to say nothing in particular. The words "obtuse" and "pontificating" come to mind.
Also... no one said anything about anything being "conclusive" yuh jackass... can you read? Do you understand what "mitigates" mean? Them carrying on "professional" is only part of the equation, any fool observing the exchange between the two could easily recognize that there is a certain banter there that is not indicative of strains in the relationship, as the comments here suggested last week. Plain and simple last week's exchange was significant only to those looking for a story. Good luck with that.
You have to be freaking joking me, who's talking about pass completion? Try again nah. I swear you invented the pretzel yes.
Pinocchio:
This just in: I can't read. I can only spell. However, fortunately, I do that at least as well as I carve.
While I don't discern or understand the meaning of words, I always know where you plan on taking them. Your responses confirm that you are in a delicate and compromised position.
Save all that f**kery and time, as I have perfected my craft.
Geppetto ::)
(signed).
P.S. I'm now into wood shavings.
Pinocchio:
This just in: I can't read. I can only spell. However, fortunately, I do that at least as well as I carve.
While I don't discern or understand the meaning of words, I always know where you plan on taking them. Your responses confirm that you are in a delicate and compromised position.
Save all that f**kery and time, as I have perfected my craft.
Geppetto ::)
(signed).
P.S. I'm now into wood shavings.
I know you into "wood shavings"... that pole up yuh ass give it away long time.
This selection is for all the England supporters out there. Keep hope alive.
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuD5Vlf5gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLph6ePNkGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xDmr_40WKw
This selection is for all the England supporters out there. Keep hope alive.
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuD5Vlf5gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLph6ePNkGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xDmr_40WKw
Oh GAWSH!, yuh come and put up MORE?! :frustrated: Ah too tired, ah only have time watch de first one.....where de fella walkin' downg de street, lickin' down people leff and right.....pretty much de way de Brits does play football. :D
This selection is for all the England supporters out there. Keep hope alive.
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuD5Vlf5gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLph6ePNkGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xDmr_40WKw
Oh GAWSH!, yuh come and put up MORE?! :frustrated: Ah too tired, ah only have time watch de first one.....where de fella walkin' downg de street, lickin' down people leff and right.....pretty much de way de Brits does play football. :D
I cyah sleep, so I was feeling kinda idle.
Hard luck. ;D
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Ronaldo preparing ahead of the Holland game. ::) ::)
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Ronaldo preparing ahead of the Holland game. ::) ::)
alternate caption:
[Ronaldo thinking] 'wonder if that's my kid in there'
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Ronaldo preparing ahead of the Holland game. ::) ::)
more croats behaving badly.
i doh understand how white people could be guilty of racism against other white people though.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/croatia-face-racism-charge-uefa-154601372--sow.html
WARSAW (Reuters) - The Croatian football federation, fined 80,000 euros by UEFA on Tuesday for racist chanting by their fans at Euro 2012, faces further punishment after it was charged on Wednesday for the display of racist banners against Spain.
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more croats behaving badly.
i doh understand how white people could be guilty of racism against other white people though.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/croatia-face-racism-charge-uefa-154601372--sow.html
WARSAW (Reuters) - The Croatian football federation, fined 80,000 euros by UEFA on Tuesday for racist chanting by their fans at Euro 2012, faces further punishment after it was charged on Wednesday for the display of racist banners against Spain.
more croats behaving badly.
i doh understand how white people could be guilty of racism against other white people though.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/croatia-face-racism-charge-uefa-154601372--sow.html
WARSAW (Reuters) - The Croatian football federation, fined 80,000 euros by UEFA on Tuesday for racist chanting by their fans at Euro 2012, faces further punishment after it was charged on Wednesday for the display of racist banners against Spain.
Racism is not about skin colour.
dey miss man like edgar pitbull davids in de midfield today lol. i ent even see the game but just from highlights i see de dutch was with dey arrogant defending again. cant wait for the inquest into this tourney. how a team that race thru qualifications could implode so spectacularly??
dey miss man like edgar pitbull davids in de midfield today lol. i ent even see the game but just from highlights i see de dutch was with dey arrogant defending again. cant wait for the inquest into this tourney. how a team that race thru qualifications could implode so spectacularly??
davids busy playin street ball (http://www.youtube.com/user/streetsoccertour)
Portugal!!!
Team of the tournament so far.
Buffon
Gebre Selassie
Alba
Hummels
AN Other (probably Sivok or Piqué. Woulda be Chiellini if not for the Croatia goal)
Gerrard
Pirlo
Iniesta
Schweinsteiger
Sneijder
Gomez
Notable mentions for Lescott, Cole, Debuchy, Khedira, Pilar, Jarocek, Ronaldo, Bendtner, Cassano
Go Czech Republic!!! Time for pretty boy to go home..... :devil: ;D
hahaha, cyber slap down :rotfl: :beermug: :devil:Go Czech Republic!!! Time for pretty boy to go home..... :devil: ;D
behave yuh self please :waiting:
Czech Republic to beat Portugal
Germany to beat Greece
Spain to beat France
England to beat Italy
Team of the tournament so far.
Buffon
Gebre Selassie
Alba
Hummels
AN Other (probably Sivok or Piqué. Woulda be Chiellini if not for the Croatia goal)
Gerrard
Pirlo
Iniesta
Schweinsteiger
Sneijder
Gomez
Notable mentions for Lescott, Cole, Debuchy, Khedira, Pilar, Jarocek, Ronaldo, Bendtner, Cassano
Did I just see another handshake ceremony after half-time... then game start at 50 mins? ESPN engaging in creative editing or what?
EDIT: Didn't know anything about Jiracek coming in, but very good player. Tough as nails... look like Vlad de Impaler :rotfl:
Meireles need to go back tuh being bald... dat nohawk struggling.He holding on to what little he has :D
Its looking like only a matter of time that Portugal score.
The Czech Republic look like they could do with an in-form rosicky in the middle. a lot of industry, but not much guile
Portugal getting better every game
Portugal getting better every game
Doh start to rate dem up too much nah, before yuh goat-mouth ah next team.
Metro Man score a nice goal for Pootigal.
Portugal getting better every game
Doh start to rate dem up too much nah, before yuh goat-mouth ah next team.
Big goal and 2 close chances. CRonaldo in gear at last.
Big goal and 2 close chances. CRonaldo in gear at last.
What should worry Portugal is their conversion rate. They had something like 20 chances and CR7 must have had around 10 (he hit the post twice!). But they will only get 2 or 3 decent chances against Spain or Germany. CR7 looking lively, but his free kicks aren't hitting the mark. He needs to convert more chances...and soon!
Big goal and 2 close chances. CRonaldo in gear at last.
What should worry Portugal is their conversion rate. They had something like 20 chances and CR7 must have had around 10 (he hit the post twice!). But they will only get 2 or 3 decent chances against Spain or Germany. CR7 looking lively, but his free kicks aren't hitting the mark. He needs to convert more chances...and soon!
I'm taking a risk today, but I backing Greece.
dey miss man like edgar pitbull davids in de midfield today lol. i ent even see the game but just from highlights i see de dutch was with dey arrogant defending again. cant wait for the inquest into this tourney. how a team that race thru qualifications could implode so spectacularly??
davids busy playin street ball (http://www.youtube.com/user/streetsoccertour)
That looked like a nice sweat...the game got intense too
Dis looking ugly already for Greece ;D
Germany looking like Spain out dey...endless possession.
Germany looking like Spain out dey...endless possession.
is a real dread knock boy...ozil, reus, scurrle forming a magic triangle...reus trow way bout 3 already...he go get one on frame just now though
Germany looking like Spain out dey...endless possession.
is a real dread knock boy...ozil, reus, scurrle forming a magic triangle...reus trow way bout 3 already...he go get one on frame just now though
Stueps when they score call me.
doh go too far...Germany looking like Spain out dey...endless possession.
is a real dread knock boy...ozil, reus, scurrle forming a magic triangle...reus trow way bout 3 already...he go get one on frame just now though
Stueps when they score call me.
Fat lady still dressing.
edit:
Damn 2-1 ???
1-0 is always a risky lead and the Greeks were showing that they could be dangerous. And Germany were taking too long to kill off this game
:rotfl:
*well look, as ah was typing that: BULL IT in Greece ass!*
Goetze and Gomez is the subs. Now they looking to twist the knife. Germany eh playing they have squad depth.
Goetze and Gomez is the subs. Now they looking to twist the knife. Germany eh playing they have squad depth.
boy! england or italy go have a real time dealing with the mannschaft nex game.
I'm taking a risk today, but I backing Greece.
Good so we know that Germany going and smash them........you is the same fella who back Oranje, right ??? good. We should be in fine form then. No worries.
Goetze and Gomez is the subs. Now they looking to twist the knife. Germany eh playing they have squad depth.
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In the 70s for a 12 yr period, Poland was one of the best in the world with players like Lato, Deyna, Boniek and goalkeeper Thomacheski.
Goetze and Gomez is the subs. Now they looking to twist the knife. Germany eh playing they have squad depth.
boy! england or italy go have a real time dealing with the mannschaft nex game.
italy wud deal wid dat normal normal...germany know when they play italy they up against organised ballers...an i aint scared ah no team callin deyself manshaft
In the 70s for a 12 yr period, Poland was one of the best in the world with players like Lato, Deyna, Boniek and goalkeeper Thomacheski.
Have to say....yuh know yuh ball. But I eh think Boniek was in de 70's though. More like 80's...dat is when he make mas wit Juventus and Poland in Spain 82
Germany showed how much depth they have in the squad. Dam! They were scary yesterday and the score flattered Greece. However, Germany did show some vulnerability defending against the counter attack, which did not go unnoticed.
Supporting Spain today :devil:thanks, dat goh make life easier for the germans :devil:
Germany eh go change up their style too much against Italy, either. They are probably the last of the big European teams that come out to just play (attacking) football.
So Spain and France aren't "big" European teams?
Supporting Spain today :devil:
Germany eh go change up their style too much against Italy, either. They are probably the last of the big European teams that come out to just play (attacking) football.
So Spain and France aren't "big" European teams?
yes they are and I eh meaning to say that Germany is "the only" team that is attack-minded as much as I'm trying to say they don't think or play any other way. Even Spain will leave out a forward to shore up the midfield and, no, that doh mean they not "attacking" but it means they want control through possession and build a fortress in the midfield. Germany does jest come out with a kinda posture like dem goin' and do they bess to rain goal on people ass and let the chips fall where they may. I like the fact that they doh really play too much cautious football. Their defenders and everybody ;ookin' to contribute up front and I don't think we will see much of a difference in their approach to the game against Italy than what we saw yesterday. Men go be goin' forward from de start. Ah could be proven wrong, but the game go be rel boring if I am.
France for me play more like Italy than the Italians. They have become ultra defensive and depending entirely on the counter. Not impressed at all, but in the knockout stages anything is possible
any links to watch the spain/france match online ??..please
France simply refuses to play
How utterly disappointing.
this is where france has to show character. i know blanc does not like the 4-4-2 but giroud will help create space for benzema.
this is where france has to show character. i know blanc does not like the 4-4-2 but giroud will help create space for benzema.
The best space for Benzema is the bench.
this is where france has to show character. i know blanc does not like the 4-4-2 but giroud will help create space for benzema.
The best space for Benzema is the bench.
... to you.
... to you.
... to you.
...and to Blanc, evidently. But I'm sure he appreciates the suggestion.
I may dispute several matters with you, but football will never be one of them.
yawn!Ditto. Boring match. Actually, any match with Spain does be boring.
I may dispute several matters with you, but football will never be one of them.
Nice attempt to try and deflect from the bullshit yuh talking with Benzema.
France is rel shit
yawn!Ditto. Boring match. Actually, any match with Spain does be boring.
France is rel shit
not so...france will outplay 90 percent of world teams...spain is on another level
Thoroughly disappointing game.. Was fighting a bep in the second half.
This France side seem like they gave up on about the 70th minute. Shame!
France were piss poor and I think Portugal can beat Spain.
Ronaldo know how to deal with them Barca men. :)
Germany -PortugalSpain for the final.
Thoroughly disappointing game.. Was fighting a bep in the second half.
This France side seem like they gave up on about the 70th minute. Shame!
Real Madrid men have scored 7 goals so far... But who's counting anyway? ::)
:devil:Real Madrid men have scored 7 goals so far... But who's counting anyway? ::)
:D Doh be givin' Toppa no ammo nuh man! Sssssssteuwps!!
That Spain team is over-rated and they are most certainly NOT one of the greatest.
england cutass booked
That Spain team is over-rated and they are most certainly NOT one of the greatest.
Toppa you think they overated or they just eh find the right balance yet. If you remember after the opening game of the WC, many pundits did not give them a chance. Alan Shearer was famously quoted after the Swiss game "so much for Spain winning the game, so much for Spain winning the group and so much for Spain winning the WC."
That Spain team is over-rated and they are most certainly NOT one of the greatest.
Toppa you think they overated or they just eh find the right balance yet. If you remember after the opening game of the WC, many pundits did not give them a chance. Alan Shearer was famously quoted after the Swiss game "so much for Spain winning the game, so much for Spain winning the group and so much for Spain winning the WC."
I find they're over-rated and boring. Sorry.
[/quot Well I respect the overated tag, but the boring argument eludes me. For me boring is France, England, Italy, Greece etc. If teams allow Spain space, park the bus and encourage them to come into the web, why should they fall for it. Its up to the opposition to take the initiative. Even when France were 1-0 down they still defending in numbers and Spain dam right not to fall for it! They winning the game, so come get the ball if you want to beat me ;D
@ Bourbon.....where all yuh does find dem ting??!!! ah weeeeaaaakkkkk!!!!!.....
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That Spain team is over-rated and they are most certainly NOT one of the greatest.
Toppa you think they overated or they just eh find the right balance yet. If you remember after the opening game of the WC, many pundits did not give them a chance. Alan Shearer was famously quoted after the Swiss game "so much for Spain winning the game, so much for Spain winning the group and so much for Spain winning the WC."
I find they're over-rated and boring. Sorry.
[/quot Well I respect the overated tag, but the boring argument eludes me. For me boring is France, England, Italy, Greece etc. If teams allow Spain space, park the bus and encourage them to come into the web, why should they fall for it. Its up to the opposition to take the initiative. Even when France were 1-0 down they still defending in numbers and Spain dam right not to fall for it! They winning the game, so come get the ball if you want to beat me ;D
I just don't favour their brand and honestly I've even found Italy more entertaining than Spain in this tournament. I think most people would agree that the France - Spain match was the most boring of the tournament so far. But I'm looking forward to Portugal - Spain because I think Portugal will take it to them.
That Spain team is over-rated and they are most certainly NOT one of the greatest.
I think most people would agree that the France - Spain match was the most boring of the tournament so far. But I'm looking forward to Portugal - Spain because I think Portugal will take it to them.
@ Bourbon.....where all yuh does find dem ting??!!! ah weeeeaaaakkkkk!!!!!.....
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I'm just hoping England really do put in such a strong performance as that!!!
Palos, why you toting for Spain so? If ah doh like dem, ah doh like dem. I never say France played well. France played rel shit. And to your question as to who playing well? Germany!!!
geez an ages,,, glen johnson you self!!
BTW what do people think of the Euro expanding to 24 teams in 2016?
BTW what do people think of the Euro expanding to 24 teams in 2016?
England is shit, you go hear lallas saying they play good
The queen f**k lallas ah what? Stueps
Why the English Comms. on Balo so. them is half chances. Like if the man wasteful.
Now he special..... ::)Why the English Comms. on Balo so. them is half chances. Like if the man wasteful.
I thought I alone notice that
Why the English Comms. on Balo so. them is half chances. Like if the man wasteful.
I jus glad it wasn't Balotelli who miss the chance De Rossi (or whoever) had missed. We woulda never hear de end.
I jus glad it wasn't Balotelli who miss the chance De Rossi (or whoever) had missed. We woulda never hear de end.
Hmmmnnn... no talk about how England shoulda have a penalty on that corner? Didn't think so.
Italy might lose this, the game have a Chelsea feel
Hmmmnnn... no talk about how England shoulda have a penalty on that corner? Didn't think so.
referees could give penalties on every corner that is taken. hush yuh c**t!
Terry must be wearing a cup. nah!!!!
Buffon remind me of Joel Batts
Terry must be wearing a cup. nah!!!!
Buffon remind me of Joel Batts
dat man was sick...used to stop penalties on ah regular.
weak yellow card dey...
Terry must be wearing a cup. nah!!!!
Buffon remind me of Joel Batts
referees could give penalties on every corner that is taken. hush yuh c**t!
I cyah stop you from posting...
nor can I stop you from talkin' shit, but hush yuh c**t all the same.
Can England make 3 passes in the midfield?
nor can I stop you from talkin' shit, but hush yuh c**t all the same.
Take yuh time... it will register.
Ey!!! But what really going on with Ribery hair line?
Ey!!! But what really going on with Ribery hair line?
Hahahaha How Random...Ribery or Rooney?
Prandelli shoulda take orff Balo with his last sub.....arkskin' de boy to behave he self fuh ah whole extra 30 minutes is just being greedy now!
Ribs!!! His hairline strange. boy!!!Ey!!! But what really going on with Ribery hair line?
Hahahaha How Random...Ribery or Rooney?
Poor Ribs! :rotfl:
This referee like he middle name is "lalas" boy. Dize 2 wicked yellow cards he give Italy now.
This referee like he middle name is "lalas" boy. Dize 2 wicked yellow cards he give Italy now.
Wasn't that a dive?
Balo displaying leadership they saying he selfish!! ::)
Balo is a big big player for his age. Say what you want. He worked to be where he is.
Come on England!
u mus be vex u have interests on that team
England going to go through by a fluke.
BTW what do people think of the Euro expanding to 24 teams in 2016?Bad idea IMO. Every group will have an Ireland in it and you'll have the 4 best 3rd place teams qualifying for the 2nd round.
England going to go through by a fluke.
You could never get it right at all eh. I rel sorry you backing portugal.
Joel BATTS!!!!!:rotfl: indeed
Lallas defending England again
Had NO confidence in Cole... none. Not surprisingly he stayed true to form.
Ah well...
Had NO confidence in Cole... none. Not surprisingly he stayed true to form.
Ah well...
True to form? The same Ashley Cole who scored the penultimate penalty in the Champions League Final? Haters gonna hate...
Go home, England!
Go home, England!
I eh understand how you couldn't like England yet you is a Chelsea supporter.
Both teams does play de same way! :devil:
Go home, England!
I eh understand how you couldn't like England yet you is a Chelsea supporter.
Both teams does play de same way! :devil:
Whole day ah waitin' fuh dis shoe to fall....ah tawt is was woulda be Die Hard woulda drop it....I apologize fuh underestimating yuh. :laugh:
It serve England right tho, because they played for penalties today from the start. Imagine a nation paranoid of penalty kicks playing for them from the start of a game, very confusing to me. Anyway on to big teams now.
Ballack say Germany doh care what style Italy play. Rel Gun talk
The more i see Rooney play, the more i realise he is ridiculously overrated. :-\
Go home, England!
I eh understand how you couldn't like England yet you is a Chelsea supporter.
Both teams does play de same way! :devil:
Whole day ah waitin' fuh dis shoe to fall....ah tawt is was woulda be Die Hard woulda drop it....I apologize fuh underestimating yuh. :laugh:
Well....is not like ah tellin stories. It as factual as rain bein wet! :devil:
Oh and dat penalty from Pirlo......lawd. Ah love it!!!! :applause: :applause:
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Oh and dat penalty from Pirlo......lawd. Ah love it!!!! :applause: :applause:
pirlo in a league of his own
uncharacteristically from pirlo, in an interview given yesterday he went on about how england were just.not.good. i think with that penalty he calmed the nerves of the kickers to come and had them believing yea we can do this. to pull of that pk at that kinda moment..lawwwddd...thats what juventus does to you...d man reborn..
Ah never support Italy till today
but yuh never see meh call yuh a liar. Yet. :rotfl:
It serve England right tho, because they played for penalties today from the start. Imagine a nation paranoid of penalty kicks playing for them from the start of a game, very confusing to me. Anyway on to big teams now.
i dont think they were playing for penalties...they're just not good technically to impose a certain style of play. for all d millions each of them are worth, its kinda unacceptable for them to play shit game after game after game...
but yuh never see meh call yuh a liar. Yet. :rotfl:
;D True.
So how come yuh like one but not de oddah? ;D
True to form? The same Ashley Cole who scored the penultimate penalty in the Champions League Final? Haters gonna hate...
It serve England right tho, because they played for penalties today from the start. Imagine a nation paranoid of penalty kicks playing for them from the start of a game, very confusing to me. Anyway on to big teams now.
i dont think they were playing for penalties...they're just not good technically to impose a certain style of play. for all d millions each of them are worth, its kinda unacceptable for them to play shit game after game after game...
We all know they are vastly overrated...
It serve England right tho, because they played for penalties today from the start. Imagine a nation paranoid of penalty kicks playing for them from the start of a game, very confusing to me. Anyway on to big teams now.
As far as England could go, playing that brand of football. Hope Hodgson will look to improve that style of play. They were horrible at possession, but that's Hodgson. Thankfully, he's not at Liverpool any longer. :beermug:
You NOW seein' dat?! Rooney capitalizes on the spaces his teammates afford him and he could do something on a counter attack.....once yuh limit the space he have to operate in, or force him to have to be creative with the ball at his feet....he dawgs dead
You NOW seein' dat?! Rooney capitalizes on the spaces his teammates afford him and he could do something on a counter attack.....once yuh limit the space he have to operate in, or force him to have to be creative with the ball at his feet....he dawgs dead
Rooney seems to be regressing. Either he getting older and just feeling his oats or he more enamored of scoring as he has become a better goalscorer/poacher.
He is no longer the player yuh could ask to play out on the left wing and get consistently good results. Asking him to drop into midfield to make a 4-4-2 a 4-4-1/4-2-3-1 also doesnt seem to work. He does run plenty and give his all but it is doing what he wants to do, not really what the rest of the team expecting him to do.
He used to excel at the team game when Ronaldo was around. He was also much better for England earlier in his career when he was a youth breaking through (Euro 2004), than in these tournaments where the whole team waiting on his appearance after break foot/suspension (2006, 2012). He was wretched in 2010 too.
With United this year it will be interesting to see how much time he spends playing in a creative role behind Welbeck or Hernandez or playing in front of Kagawa as a striker, sharing time with Welbeck and Hernandez.
FORZA ITALIA!!!
I have to grudgingly admit... Watching that England brand yesterday make me understand what it must have felt like to be a Bayern Munich fan in the CL Final versus Chelsea.... Only, that England's use of them kinda tactics look much much worse.
At least Chelsea could string some passes together and try to make something happen when they had the ball, and at least they had a viable outlet up front in Drogba, who you always feel could make something happen in that system. England on the other hand had NOTHING.
What a tepid performance. What pain me the most is that man for man, that England team really shouldn't have to play a team like Italy in such a cowardly fashion. On paper, this Italy side doesn't have that many individually talented players outside of Pirlo, Cassano, Balotelli and De Rossi. England could have matched that with Rooney, Gerrard, Young, Wellbeck in their lineup. Yet the way England line up, you would swear they up against a Brazil, Spain or Germany.
Imagine man like Abate have the freedom of the right flanks and have Ashley Young acting like an auxillary left back. Shameful. Better they had just start with Carroll and hoof everything up to him as he was winning all the headers, then try to profit off a knock down. I woulda respect that more.
Anyway enough about that shit side.
Pirlo dread... Lets forget the rank disrespectful, "Keep calm", "STFU Hart" nature of that penalty kick in injury time to swing momentum back to Italy (Yorke did it for Man U, Zidane did it for France, Abreu did it in Copa America for Uruguay). This man is such a boss and a joy to watch in midfield. At 33 years old and still a cut above the rest with that ball in midfield pulling the strings at walking pace, flighting passed over the top and dominating the midfield. There was one particular play when he collect the ball and Parker rush in too eager and get a simple "pull and push" and end up flailing all over him. "Easy yuhself my youth".
I thought Balotelli played really well but he needs to be a bit more clinical with his finishing. He need to watch some Romario tapes, when you get a flighted ball over the top is one touch to control and then another to slap hard or lob the keeper without thinking it. However he was giving them serious problems whole game, physical presence and coming short or going deep to play it simple. It will come!.
De Rossi needs to hold a bench. This is an immensely talented player who aaalways purging Italy in tournaments dating back to the elbow against the USA. I could never understand how come a player who supposed to be one of the leaders on the side could never make the difference when it counts. Easy chance to score a big player like that supposed to finish with aplomb. No surprise that he wasn't a factor when Italy won the World Cup in 2006.
Looking forward to the Italy v Germany semi-final, a repeat of one of the best games of football i've ever seen in my life (Italy v Germany world cup semi final 2006). Pirlo issue a football lesson that game. Hope he can repeat.
Oh and dat penalty from Pirlo......lawd. Ah love it!!!! :applause: :applause:
pirlo in a league of his own
uncharacteristically from pirlo, in an interview given yesterday he went on about how england were just.not.good. i think with that penalty he calmed the nerves of the kickers to come and had them believing yea we can do this. to pull of that pk at that kinda moment..lawwwddd...thats what juventus does to you...d man reborn..
i was thinking it was just me who find spain boring. effective but boring.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spain-wont-change-despite-boring-tag-alonso-125024735--sow.html
FORZA ITALIA!!!
I have to grudgingly admit... Watching that England brand yesterday make me understand what it must have felt like to be a Bayern Munich fan in the CL Final versus Chelsea.... Only, that England's use of them kinda tactics look much much worse.
At least Chelsea could string some passes together and try to make something happen when they had the ball, and at least they had a viable outlet up front in Drogba, who you always feel could make something happen in that system. England on the other hand had NOTHING.
What a tepid performance. What pain me the most is that man for man, that England team really shouldn't have to play a team like Italy in such a cowardly fashion. On paper, this Italy side doesn't have that many individually talented players outside of Pirlo, Cassano, Balotelli and De Rossi. England could have matched that with Rooney, Gerrard, Young, Wellbeck in their lineup. Yet the way England line up, you would swear they up against a Brazil, Spain or Germany.
Imagine man like Abate have the freedom of the right flanks and have Ashley Young acting like an auxillary left back. Shameful. Better they had just start with Carroll and hoof everything up to him as he was winning all the headers, then try to profit off a knock down. I woulda respect that more.
Anyway enough about that shit side.
Pirlo dread... Lets forget the rank disrespectful, "Keep calm", "STFU Hart" nature of that penalty kick in injury time to swing momentum back to Italy (Yorke did it for Man U, Zidane did it for France, Abreu did it in Copa America for Uruguay). This man is such a boss and a joy to watch in midfield. At 33 years old and still a cut above the rest with that ball in midfield pulling the strings at walking pace, flighting passed over the top and dominating the midfield. There was one particular play when he collect the ball and Parker rush in too eager and get a simple "pull and push" and end up flailing all over him. "Easy yuhself my youth".
I thought Balotelli played really well but he needs to be a bit more clinical with his finishing. He need to watch some Romario tapes, when you get a flighted ball over the top is one touch to control and then another to slap hard or lob the keeper without thinking it. However he was giving them serious problems whole game, physical presence and coming short or going deep to play it simple. It will come!.
De Rossi needs to hold a bench. This is an immensely talented player who aaalways purging Italy in tournaments dating back to the elbow against the USA. I could never understand how come a player who supposed to be one of the leaders on the side could never make the difference when it counts. Easy chance to score a big player like that supposed to finish with aplomb. No surprise that he wasn't a factor when Italy won the World Cup in 2006.
Looking forward to the Italy v Germany semi-final, a repeat of one of the best games of football i've ever seen in my life (Italy v Germany world cup semi final 2006). Pirlo issue a football lesson that game. Hope he can repeat.
Dinho, wha happen to Quagliarella? Is he injured?
Italy redeeming themselves somewhat from that abysmal 2010 WC, still a far cry from the 06, 90, or 82 teams
I like this diamanti change...this guy is mercurial
i was thinking it was just me who find spain boring. effective but boring.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spain-wont-change-despite-boring-tag-alonso-125024735--sow.html
I not saying be ah ass an' fall in ah counter attack trap hook line and sinker, but dem fellas have enough talent for targeted small incursion into d other team box without risking everything ah mean bomb rush dem open ah hole and shoot for fuuck sake, all d talk man talkin bout spain ability to possess d ball what about dey ability to get it back....dey dam good at it so wutdf**kk shoot lil bit nah, try to buss tru d fence nah....yuh goh get back d ball anyway.......but playin one touch in d middle ah d park whole game cause man refuse to jus let yuh wine on dey head, come nah man............
i was thinking it was just me who find spain boring. effective but boring.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spain-wont-change-despite-boring-tag-alonso-125024735--sow.html
I not saying be ah ass an' fall in ah counter attack trap hook line and sinker, but dem fellas have enough talent for targeted small incursion into d other team box without risking everything ah mean bomb rush dem open ah hole and shoot for fuuck sake, all d talk man talkin bout spain ability to possess d ball what about dey ability to get it back....dey dam good at it so wutdf**kk shoot lil bit nah, try to buss tru d fence nah....yuh goh get back d ball anyway.......but playin one touch in d middle ah d park whole game cause man refuse to jus let yuh wine on dey head, come nah man............
lol
Yuh know, I'se always mix you up with Just Cool!
i was thinking it was just me who find spain boring. effective but boring.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spain-wont-change-despite-boring-tag-alonso-125024735--sow.html
I not saying be ah ass an' fall in ah counter attack trap hook line and sinker, but dem fellas have enough talent for targeted small incursion into d other team box without risking everything ah mean bomb rush dem open ah hole and shoot for fuuck sake, all d talk man talkin bout spain ability to possess d ball what about dey ability to get it back....dey dam good at it so wutdf**kk shoot lil bit nah, try to buss tru d fence nah....yuh goh get back d ball anyway.......but playin one touch in d middle ah d park whole game cause man refuse to jus let yuh wine on dey head, come nah man............
....apparently, Buffon had made it clear in a (pregame?) press conference? that there is no way ashley young was going to score on him....or Ashley Cole, for that matter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81200188@N06/7439590022/sizes/m/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/81200188@N06/7439590022/sizes/m/in/photostream/)
:D
i was thinking it was just me who find spain boring. effective but boring.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spain-wont-change-despite-boring-tag-alonso-125024735--sow.html
I not saying be ah ass an' fall in ah counter attack trap hook line and sinker, but dem fellas have enough talent for targeted small incursion into d other team box without risking everything ah mean bomb rush dem open ah hole and shoot for fuuck sake, all d talk man talkin bout spain ability to possess d ball what about dey ability to get it back....dey dam good at it so wutdf**kk shoot lil bit nah, try to buss tru d fence nah....yuh goh get back d ball anyway.......but playin one touch in d middle ah d park whole game cause man refuse to jus let yuh wine on dey head, come nah man............
Yeah they refuse to play anything but a sure ball. No risks going forward, the chasing team can't get the ball, and if the defenders and block those openings, Spain just pass the ball in triangles in the midfield like vs France. At Barca those men can pass to Messi who makes it exciting. For Spain in this tournament they don't even have a striker to pass to.
i was thinking it was just me who find spain boring. effective but boring.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spain-wont-change-despite-boring-tag-alonso-125024735--sow.html
I not saying be ah ass an' fall in ah counter attack trap hook line and sinker, but dem fellas have enough talent for targeted small incursion into d other team box without risking everything ah mean bomb rush dem open ah hole and shoot for fuuck sake, all d talk man talkin bout spain ability to possess d ball what about dey ability to get it back....dey dam good at it so wutdf**kk shoot lil bit nah, try to buss tru d fence nah....yuh goh get back d ball anyway.......but playin one touch in d middle ah d park whole game cause man refuse to jus let yuh wine on dey head, come nah man............
Yeah they refuse to play anything but a sure ball. No risks going forward, the chasing team can't get the ball, and if the defenders and block those openings, Spain just pass the ball in triangles in the midfield like vs France. At Barca those men can pass to Messi who makes it exciting. For Spain in this tournament they don't even have a striker to pass to.
Under all the old talk about Spain, the no striker argument really not being looked at clear enough.
Spain remains the second top scoring team in the tournaments final 4.
germany have 9 goals
spain have 8 goals
portugal have 6 goals
italy have 4 goals
For me although Pirlo is a solid holding mid, Italy lacks a disruptive bruiser in the mid who can also transition play faster. I know Pirlo has another gear. I've seen it, but he uses that only when absolutely necessary and not for a sustained period. The team is built around Pirlo, but that slows the ticker somewhat. A fast Germany and a slow Italy would be an Italian nightmare. Fortunately, I doh expect them to sit back.
For me although Pirlo is a solid holding mid, Italy lacks a disruptive bruiser in the mid who can also transition play faster. I know Pirlo has another gear. I've seen it, but he uses that only when absolutely necessary and not for a sustained period. The team is built around Pirlo, but that slows the ticker somewhat. A fast Germany and a slow Italy would be an Italian nightmare. Fortunately, I doh expect them to sit back.
I always thought Pirlo was a playmaker. Not a holding mid.
Pirlo remind me very much of Valderrama
Role of Holding Midfielder
The holding midfield player has numerous responsibilities. Physical speed is not considered a
major factor for players in this position (although it never hurts) as this is, really, a sweeper in
front of the back players with little need to make long searching runs.
...
A low center of gravity, helps as this player, generally, does a lot of tackling.
Mentally, a thorough awareness of player movement, especially on the weak side of the field
and anticipation of when a pass is about to be made by an opposing player are excellent
psychological qualities. Continual swiveling of the head is a characteristic of good holding
midfielders.
Some of the tasks of the holding midfielder are as follows;
Defending
• Slowing down counter attacks
• Picking up, what is commonly called, the “shadow center forward” who plays behind the
lead or target center forward.
• Screens the center backs and picks off passes meant for center forwards. The holding
midfield player is in an ideal position to double team a center forward who is being held
up by a back line player.
Attacking
• Receiving ball from back players and relaying the ball to the forwards or other attacking
players.
• Being in a position to receive the ball from back line players whio are under pressure and
need a simple passing option.
• Available to change the point of attack. This is helped by virtue of the fact that the
holding player generally plays behind the other midfielders.
• Starts counter attacks with long passes or runs ball forward (only if another midfielder
holds).
• Holds in a central position to allow outside backs to go forward.
....apparently, Buffon had made it clear in a (pregame?) press conference? that there is no way ashley young was going to score on him....or Ashley Cole, for that matter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81200188@N06/7439590022/sizes/m/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/81200188@N06/7439590022/sizes/m/in/photostream/)
:D
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Arright, Die Hard, look ah fix it. :beermug: :beermug:
This is sad. :(
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Fan death
Report: Fatigued Chinese fan dies
ESPN.com news services
A soccer fan in China has died after staying up for 11 straight nights to watch every game of Euro 2012, according to a report in Chinese newspaper Sanxiang Metropolis.
Jiang Xiaoshan, 26, died after Ireland's 2-0 defeat to Italy on June 18, according to the report.
Because of the time difference between China and the European Championship in Poland and Ukraine, games would air at midnight and 2:45 a.m. local time. Jiang went to work after watching the matches.
"We would rest occasionally but he watched everyday and would not miss a single match," one friend told the Sanxiang Metropolis, according to a translation by British newspaper The Telegraph.
"Jiang was in good health. But staying up through the night and not sleeping enough weakened his immune system and he drank and smoked while watching the football, triggering his condition," Liu Zhiling, a doctor from the local People's Hospital ER, told the Chinese paper.
http://espnfc.com/us/en/news/1114008/reportfatigued-chinese-fan-dies.html
Lippi used Pirlo to join the back line with the midfield and attack in 2006. He was not a holding Mid Per say ie Ball Winner (though he sat in that pocket) but a deep lying plamaker. he also had the license to move forward. Guardolia and Koeman played a similar role for Cruyff, at Barca and Ajax. Carlos V played more advanced & in my books was one of the best passers I have ever seen.
joe hart real bump his gums and he eh touch ah ball in the shootout.
joe hart real bump his gums and he eh touch ah ball in the shootout.
joe hart real bump his gums and he eh touch ah ball in the shootout.
Lippi used Pirlo to join the back line with the midfield and attack in 2006. He was not a holding Mid Per say ie Ball Winner (though he sat in that pocket) but a deep lying plamaker. he also had the license to move forward. Guardolia and Koeman played a similar role for Cruyff, at Barca and Ajax. Carlos V played more advanced & in my books was one of the best passers I have ever seen.
Interesting discussion. Italy is abt to face Germany with a much heralded Pirlo, and mention of Pibe reminds me of that WICKED!!! crafty pass he played to Freddy Rincon to bring Colombia level with Germany and to get out of WC group play. Pibe without a doubt played in a more advanced position. (Of course he sometimes showed deep for balls coming from that advanced position buh that's nothing revolutionary).
Anyway, yuh just add plenty to the discussion because iz precisely the mix of license, playing qualities and reality that much comes down to how the functionality of a position/responsibility are interpreted that prompted me to not view him through a strict lens. Such a versatile player, yet not everyone's cup of tea.
joe hart real bump his gums and he eh touch ah ball in the shootout.
Lol... I was thinking same thing today... not the fact that he bump he gums, I dunno about that, but more the fact that it look like he was trying to psych Balotelli out... and I doh think he come close to one ball, lol
juiventus revived him...pirlo probably played 35+ games in league last season...the majority full 90 minutes...the training regime, medical staff we have are excellent...and not to mention the team chemistry that we have it was as if he was reborn because as he put it he finally started back enjoying football since he came to turin...and it shows....juventus play a possession and pressing game with a lot of movement...marchisio and especially vidal contribute to pirlo's resurgence as it is they who allow him to flourish the way he does...
i curious to know what balotelli told him after scoring...hart was trying to psych ppl out but he did not like he was trying to save crap.
on another note Bakes, what u think about milner? England doesnt have any better options?
juiventus revived him...pirlo probably played 35+ games in league last season...the majority full 90 minutes...the training regime, medical staff we have are excellent...and not to mention the team chemistry that we have it was as if he was reborn because as he put it he finally started back enjoying football since he came to turin...and it shows....juventus play a possession and pressing game with a lot of movement...marchisio and especially vidal contribute to pirlo's resurgence as it is they who allow him to flourish the way he does...
Assholery to de max.
mukumsplau! Bresia's coach was Carlo Mazzone. Imagine Inter bought Pirlo and he could not even get a cobeaux sweat
mukumsplau! Bresia's coach was Carlo Mazzone. Imagine Inter bought Pirlo and he could not even get a cobeaux sweat
mukumsplau! Bresia's coach was Carlo Mazzone. Imagine Inter bought Pirlo and he could not even get a cobeaux sweat
At Inter, i remember Pirlo was a young and upcoming forward.. Off the top of my head, i think it was him and Nicola Ventola who was struggling for lil corbeaux sweat here and there behind fellas like Zamorano and dem until he was transformed into a playmaker.
I always maintain it was a big mistake for Milan to let him go... Apparently he wanted a 2 year contract renewal which Milan refused to budge on, also apparently they had some doubts over whether his legs could take him a whole season... Look he turn around and win the Scudetto with Juve.
mukumsplau! Bresia's coach was Carlo Mazzone. Imagine Inter bought Pirlo and he could not even get a cobeaux sweat
At Inter, i remember Pirlo was a young and upcoming forward.. Off the top of my head, i think it was him and Nicola Ventola who was struggling for lil corbeaux sweat here and there behind fellas like Zamorano and dem until he was transformed into a playmaker.
I always maintain it was a big mistake for Milan to let him go... Apparently he wanted a 2 year contract renewal which Milan refused to budge on, also apparently they had some doubts over whether his legs could take him a whole season... Look he turn around and win the Scudetto with Juve.
Don't get me going with Milan nah! Sadly lacking a playmaker and yet they let Pirlo go. IMHO Galliani has lost his edge, bad decisions and dodggy buys in the last few years. Silvio has his own problems and left his Milan toy, but if he was still on top of things he would have asked some serious questions of Galliani
i curious to know what balotelli told him after scoring...hart was trying to psych ppl out but he did not like he was trying to save crap.
on another note Bakes, what u think about milner? England doesnt have any better options?
Dred you musse miss the post where I was wondering how the hell he still starting fuh England. De man slow and lacking for skills... no way you could convince me he starting ahead of Walcott... limitations in Theo's game and all. Theo need steady run... unfair to expect that youth to produce the minute he steps in the pitch, which is precisely how they've been using him his whole career (both Arsenal and England). At least there is better quality around him on the club... what is Capello and Roy story?
I think Milner provides experience and toughness to a City team that has more than its share of prima donnas... but Englad full ah players like that in midfield already... he surplus to requirement. It tells the tale the fact that his replacement was Jordan Henderson in that match. That's what English fans have to look forward to... lol.
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i curious to know what balotelli told him after scoring...hart was trying to psych ppl out but he did not like he was trying to save crap.
on another note Bakes, what u think about milner? England doesnt have any better options?
Dred you musse miss the post where I was wondering how the hell he still starting fuh England. De man slow and lacking for skills... no way you could convince me he starting ahead of Walcott... limitations in Theo's game and all. Theo need steady run... unfair to expect that youth to produce the minute he steps in the pitch, which is precisely how they've been using him his whole career (both Arsenal and England). At least there is better quality around him on the club... what is Capello and Roy story?
I think Milner provides experience and toughness to a City team that has more than its share of prima donnas... but Englad full ah players like that in midfield already... he surplus to requirement. It tells the tale the fact that his replacement was Jordan Henderson in that match. That's what English fans have to look forward to... lol.
Chamberlain showed more in his brief stint than Milner and Young put together.
Chamberlain and Walcott at least want to possess the ball.
England full of grafters
i curious to know what balotelli told him after scoring...hart was trying to psych ppl out but he did not like he was trying to save crap.
on another note Bakes, what u think about milner? England doesnt have any better options?
Dred you musse miss the post where I was wondering how the hell he still starting fuh England. De man slow and lacking for skills... no way you could convince me he starting ahead of Walcott... limitations in Theo's game and all. Theo need steady run... unfair to expect that youth to produce the minute he steps in the pitch, which is precisely how they've been using him his whole career (both Arsenal and England). At least there is better quality around him on the club... what is Capello and Roy story?
I think Milner provides experience and toughness to a City team that has more than its share of prima donnas... but Englad full ah players like that in midfield already... he surplus to requirement. It tells the tale the fact that his replacement was Jordan Henderson in that match. That's what English fans have to look forward to... lol.
i curious to know what balotelli told him after scoring...hart was trying to psych ppl out but he did not like he was trying to save crap.
on another note Bakes, what u think about milner? England doesnt have any better options?
Dred you musse miss the post where I was wondering how the hell he still starting fuh England. De man slow and lacking for skills... no way you could convince me he starting ahead of Walcott... limitations in Theo's game and all. Theo need steady run... unfair to expect that youth to produce the minute he steps in the pitch, which is precisely how they've been using him his whole career (both Arsenal and England). At least there is better quality around him on the club... what is Capello and Roy story?
I think Milner provides experience and toughness to a City team that has more than its share of prima donnas... but Englad full ah players like that in midfield already... he surplus to requirement. It tells the tale the fact that his replacement was Jordan Henderson in that match. That's what English fans have to look forward to... lol.
yeah i didnt understand why walcott wasnt starting ahead of milner, i assumed they saw walcott as being more effective coming on a sub. Milner is real pull stones.
I believe the reason why Hodgson played Milner is because he felt that Johnson needed the defensive help more than England needed an attacking option.
I think that's also why he played Ashley Young as well. Both Walcott & Chamberlain are young players not known for their defensive attributes and England needed numbers in midfield to help when Italy had the ball. As was seen by the stats, Italy had significantly more of the ball than England which made that help even more important.
Just a guess on my part.
i curious to know what balotelli told him after scoring...hart was trying to psych ppl out but he did not like he was trying to save crap.
on another note Bakes, what u think about milner? England doesnt have any better options?
Dred you musse miss the post where I was wondering how the hell he still starting fuh England. De man slow and lacking for skills... no way you could convince me he starting ahead of Walcott... limitations in Theo's game and all. Theo need steady run... unfair to expect that youth to produce the minute he steps in the pitch, which is precisely how they've been using him his whole career (both Arsenal and England). At least there is better quality around him on the club... what is Capello and Roy story?
I think Milner provides experience and toughness to a City team that has more than its share of prima donnas... but Englad full ah players like that in midfield already... he surplus to requirement. It tells the tale the fact that his replacement was Jordan Henderson in that match. That's what English fans have to look forward to... lol.
yeah i didnt understand why walcott wasnt starting ahead of milner, i assumed they saw walcott as being more effective coming on a sub. Milner is real pull stones.
I believe the reason why Hodgson played Milner is because he felt that Johnson needed the defensive help more than England needed an attacking option.
I think that's also why he played Ashley Young as well. Both Walcott & Chamberlain are young players not known for their defensive attributes and England needed numbers in midfield to help when Italy had the ball. As was seen by the stats, Italy had significantly more of the ball than England which made that help even more important.
Just a guess on my part.
Come on Portugal!
"So THAT'S what Spain looks like when they don't have the ball 70% of the time," gollies Rob McClean. "Normal. A bit scared. And wasteful. But when you think of it, they always need 20 chances for 2 goals. We just get carried away by all the possession they have in the meantime. They can also all, like, dribble the hell out of the ball."
All aboard HMS Haters!! :beermug:
"So THAT'S what Spain looks like when they don't have the ball 70% of the time," gollies Rob McClean. "Normal. A bit scared. And wasteful. But when you think of it, they always need 20 chances for 2 goals. We just get carried away by all the possession they have in the meantime. They can also all, like, dribble the hell out of the ball."
All aboard HMS Haters!! :beermug:
When Spain BUSS one in allyuh ras, watch all man jack jump ship!....startin' wit de cyap-tin!
Portugal is playing very well... Hussling them and harrying them and winning the physical battles all over the field.. And most importantly not letting the Spain midfield get into a rhythm to dictate the pace..
Xavi, Iniesta, Silva, Xabi (is he playing?) not seeing much of the ball, and when they do they not getting time to pick apart Portugal. This is like how Real Madrid defeated Barcelona in the Copa Del Rey.
Meireles and Coentrao having monster games, and Ronaldo is so much more effective as he has been all tournament when he plays as a team player and doesn't try to do it all for himself.
Ramos is a wild man.
"So THAT'S what Spain looks like when they don't have the ball 70% of the time," gollies Rob McClean. "Normal. A bit scared. And wasteful. But when you think of it, they always need 20 chances for 2 goals. We just get carried away by all the possession they have in the meantime. They can also all, like, dribble the hell out of the ball."
All aboard HMS Haters!! :beermug:
When Spain BUSS one in allyuh ras, watch all man jack jump ship!....startin' wit de cyap-tin!
Ah find yuh get quiet!!!
How much shot Ronaldo want/need?
Allyuh better doh be on Ronaldo eh.
:-X :-X :nailbiting: :nailbiting:
If Ronaldo miss another penalty he better stay in Ukraine.
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Portugal coach have some 'splainin' to do.
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punk azz biatch
Nani done went and huff Bruno Alves before he take his penalty... There would have been a mental effect... Why not send all the best takers ahead of him.
Had to be some kinda disastrous miscalculation went on there.
For what?
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
Could be the coach pick the line-up... who knows?
Portugal is playing very well... Hussling them and harrying them and winning the physical battles all over the field.. And most importantly not letting the Spain midfield get into a rhythm to dictate the pace..
Xavi, Iniesta, Silva, Xabi (is he playing?) not seeing much of the ball, and when they do they not getting time to pick apart Portugal. This is like how Real Madrid defeated Barcelona in the Copa Del Rey.
Meireles and Coentrao having monster games, and Ronaldo is so much more effective as he has been all tournament when he plays as a team player and doesn't try to do it all for himself.
Ramos is a wild man.
Sounds like Portugal really pressing Spain and giving them they hardest challenge so far. Win or lose Bento showing that he is a boss coach. And if Portugal win this is really Ronaldo tournament.
How much shot Ronaldo want/need?
I was about to say, how many freekicks will the ref give Crynaldo from that exact spot
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punk azz biatch
You relll extra dred.
How much shot Ronaldo want/need?
I was about to say, how many freekicks will the ref give Crynaldo from that exact spot
Ah not ah CR7 defender or promoter, but de man win dem kicks, elan.
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
Well, looked like leadership for a second (when he approached Rui Patricio to whisper in his ear) ... buh I really doh want to believe he was on a taking the winning kick scene.
Anchoring the kicks isn't a silly policy, but on the way the kicks (order and results) went ... yuh have to say, he should have at least kicked 4th.
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
Well, looked like leadership for a second (when he approached Rui Patricio to whisper in his ear) ... buh I really doh want to believe he was on a taking the winning kick scene.
Anchoring the kicks isn't a silly policy, but on the way the kicks (order and results) went ... yuh have to say, he should have at least kicked 4th.
That is why I said "(real) leadership". Going and whisper in the 'keeper ear is jes talkin' a talk (and makin' sure yuh get as much camera time as yuh could get ::) ) Walkin' a walk is makin' sure you, as the team's supposed bess player and team captain/leader, and supposed (self proclaimed) bess player in the world (that does take all the penalties to keep up with Messi) supposed to make sure that your team, at the very least, keeps pace, kick for kick with the opposing team. You cannot leave it to "lesser" players on the team to shoulder that responsibility.
Wham fellas how nobody eh talking about Ramos PK
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
Well, looked like leadership for a second (when he approached Rui Patricio to whisper in his ear) ... buh I really doh want to believe he was on a taking the winning kick scene.
Anchoring the kicks isn't a silly policy, but on the way the kicks (order and results) went ... yuh have to say, he should have at least kicked 4th.
That is why I said "(real) leadership". Going and whisper in the 'keeper ear is jes talkin' a talk (and makin' sure yuh get as much camera time as yuh could get ::) ) Walkin' a walk is makin' sure you, as the team's supposed bess player and team captain/leader, and supposed (self proclaimed) bess player in the world (that does take all the penalties to keep up with Messi) supposed to make sure that your team, at the very least, keeps pace, kick for kick with the opposing team. You cannot leave it to "lesser" players on the team to shoulder that responsibility.
Finally Chow we on the same page.
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
Well, looked like leadership for a second (when he approached Rui Patricio to whisper in his ear) ... buh I really doh want to believe he was on a taking the winning kick scene.
Anchoring the kicks isn't a silly policy, but on the way the kicks (order and results) went ... yuh have to say, he should have at least kicked 4th.
That is why I said "(real) leadership". Going and whisper in the 'keeper ear is jes talkin' a talk (and makin' sure yuh get as much camera time as yuh could get ::) ) Walkin' a walk is makin' sure you, as the team's supposed bess player and team captain/leader, and supposed (self proclaimed) bess player in the world (that does take all the penalties to keep up with Messi) supposed to make sure that your team, at the very least, keeps pace, kick for kick with the opposing team. You cannot leave it to "lesser" players on the team to shoulder that responsibility.
WHYYYY did Ronaldo not take the 4th penalty???!!!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Leave it to Bruno Alves hoss?
Because he is more interested in glory than (real) leadership.
Well, looked like leadership for a second (when he approached Rui Patricio to whisper in his ear) ... buh I really doh want to believe he was on a taking the winning kick scene.
Anchoring the kicks isn't a silly policy, but on the way the kicks (order and results) went ... yuh have to say, he should have at least kicked 4th.
That is why I said "(real) leadership". Going and whisper in the 'keeper ear is jes talkin' a talk (and makin' sure yuh get as much camera time as yuh could get ::) ) Walkin' a walk is makin' sure you, as the team's supposed bess player and team captain/leader, and supposed (self proclaimed) bess player in the world (that does take all the penalties to keep up with Messi) supposed to make sure that your team, at the very least, keeps pace, kick for kick with the opposing team. You cannot leave it to "lesser" players on the team to shoulder that responsibility.
Dise true but yuh's still ah hater.
Where Toppa gone............. :devil:
Well, here's an associated issue: Lloris is captain of France by default (incidentally, has this been the major tournament with a record # of keepers captaining squads? ... there seemed to be nuff a dem. Is Ronaldo skipper of Portugal (essentially default and a lil bit of deference? ... coz iz his time?) ... Been considering this for a lil while ... although I frankly cyah see who else could hold the armband on that squad (that could start consistently). In my view the only other option would be Bruno Alves.
Portugal deserve to go home. Playing ante-football in extra time. The better team won.
Well, here's an associated issue: Lloris is captain of France by default (incidentally, has this been the major tournament with a record # of keepers captaining squads? ... there seemed to be nuff a dem. Is Ronaldo skipper of Portugal (essentially default and a lil bit of deference? ... coz iz his time?) ... Been considering this for a lil while ... although I frankly cyah see who else could hold the armband on that squad (that could start consistently). In my view the only other option would be Bruno Alves.
In my equally subjective view, I concede, I could see Nani being the captain of this Portugal team. I really don't know why metro is the captain....yes he is, I guess, their best player, but he is far from being a good leader in my books. All them antics he does be doing, (the strong man pose on the free-kicks), all the pouting and preening, the "look at me" persona that he exhibits, them things eh leadership.
Is DHW again eh know.
Please don't start supporting Germany. This bandwagon can't hold any goats.
STUEPS how i turn the scapegoat for this now? Doh vex meh tonight eh >:(
Well, here's an associated issue: Lloris is captain of France by default (incidentally, has this been the major tournament with a record # of keepers captaining squads? ... there seemed to be nuff a dem. Is Ronaldo skipper of Portugal (essentially default and a lil bit of deference? ... coz iz his time?) ... Been considering this for a lil while ... although I frankly cyah see who else could hold the armband on that squad (that could start consistently). In my view the only other option would be Bruno Alves.
In my equally subjective view, I concede, I could see Nani being the captain of this Portugal team. I really don't know why metro is the captain....yes he is, I guess, their best player, but he is far from being a good leader in my books. All them antics he does be doing, (the strong man pose on the free-kicks), all the pouting and preening, the "look at me" persona that he exhibits, them things eh leadership.
Nani still stuck in Ronaldo's shadow.
Iz only one penalty Cristiano could take, why not take the last one? I'm also sure he took the last kick vs England in 2006.
Nani done went and huff Bruno Alves before he take his penalty... There would have been a mental effect... Why not send all the best takers ahead of him.
Had to be some kinda disastrous miscalculation went on there.
Iz only one penalty Cristiano could take, why not take the last one? I'm also sure he took the last kick vs England in 2006.
I'm also sure he wasn't the highly heralded, take-all-the-free-kicks and take-all-the-penalty kicks leader and captain of the team back in '06, either. So if you have your best penalty-kick takers on the right side and your not-so-best ones on the left side, yuh go let the onse on the left shoot first? Who yuh want takin' yuh free-throws at the end of the game, Dennis Rodman or Michael Jordan?
Iz only one penalty Cristiano could take, why not take the last one? I'm also sure he took the last kick vs England in 2006.
I'm also sure he wasn't the highly heralded, take-all-the-free-kicks and take-all-the-penalty kicks leader and captain of the team back in '06, either. So if you have your best penalty-kick takers on the right side and your not-so-best ones on the left side, yuh go let the onse on the left shoot first? Who yuh want takin' yuh free-throws at the end of the game, Dennis Rodman or Michael Jordan?
You're right, he wasn't the #1 man like now. So what? If Alves missed at #5 would they be through? A team counts on every single kicker to score, and they don't select kickers thinking that they will miss. Each man has to do his job.
Where Toppa gone............. :devil:
"If Pirlo was English would he have made the squad let alone been on the pitch?"
_ Rio Ferdinand (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12016/7843815/Rio-Hodgson-got-it-wrong)
Spot on, Rio.
Italy likely lineup..chiellini back from injury, this time at LB coming in for balzaretti
abate barzagli bonnucci chiellini
marchisio pirlo de rossi
montolivio
cassano balotelli
more defensive solidity than with balzaretti who might be better than chiellini going forward obviously but against germany might be a liability defensively
FORZA AZZZURRI!!!!!
Stueps i keeping silent on who i supporting , men want to lynch meh this rounds :worried:
Italy likely lineup..chiellini back from injury, this time at LB coming in for balzaretti
abate barzagli bonnucci chiellini
marchisio pirlo de rossi
montolivio
cassano balotelli
more defensive solidity than with balzaretti who might be better than chiellini going forward obviously but against germany might be a liability defensively
FORZA AZZZURRI!!!!!
Muku, Mota still injured then?
Italy likely lineup..chiellini back from injury, this time at LB coming in for balzaretti
abate barzagli bonnucci chiellini
marchisio pirlo de rossi
montolivio
cassano balotelli
more defensive solidity than with balzaretti who might be better than chiellini going forward obviously but against germany might be a liability defensively
FORZA AZZZURRI!!!!!
Muku, Mota still injured then?
he's recovered. usually prandelli plays him in the trequartista role why i dont know...montolivo is getting the start seein that he looked lively out there against england..
He ent hesitate at all for that one eh.
He get a yellow I hope he don't mess this upHe go score again... :beermug: :beermug:
Italy bossing the game now. Shocked
DHW yuh supporting Germany undercover or what ??? :frustrated: :frustrated:
Meh boy Ballotelli strikes :applause: :applause:
Ah bet all Lalas would talk about at halftime is how silly Ballo is for removing his jersey to celebrate and that yellow would hurt his team later in the game! ::)
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He ent hesitate at all for that one eh.
Look Ballack face hahahahahaha
Look Ballack face hahahahahaha
As much as ah did used to criticize him as a Chelsea player, ah like him in de studio.....ah feelin' sorry fuh him. :laugh:
Look Ballack face hahahahahaha
Look Ballack face hahahahahaha
As much as ah did used to criticize him as a Chelsea player, ah like him in de studio.....ah feelin' sorry fuh him. :laugh:
hahahah How he looking? Oh gosh ah feeling bad for ze German.
Wow, I have never seen Lalas this quiet and I don't think he mentioned Balotelli's name once!
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That is the quietest I ever see the studio panel. Nothing from Lalass, Ballack learn english proper.
Wait is hair clips I seein in Buffon hair?
and as fuh buffon..as if d two ashleys wasnt enough...u think he wud let ah manschaaft bore he?
Balloteli off
man the germans hating hard on that boy
Well Mario off..so....I done backing Italy.
Too little too late?
That is the quietest I ever see the studio panel. Nothing from Lalass, Ballack learn english proper.
Well...that was an interesting result. :-\
So DHW...Spain is de side for sunday? :D
Great semifinal :applause:
Well...that was an interesting result. :-\
Who u was supporting ? :devil:
BTW
Buffon is a God!!
pirlo showing that us old men could still ball ;D buffon is showing all the pretenders that he still has the throne
Real glad for Balo.....The man has been playing well all tournament.
Side note....Nadal just get ah cutarse from an unknown at Wimbledon....
Real glad for Balo.....The man has been playing well all tournament.
Not sure who happier today. mukumsplau cause he side win or Jus Cool cause Balo score two goals. ;D
Side note....Nadal just get ah cutarse from an unknown at Wimbledon....
I shall follow my routine till Sunday. :devil:
... Pirlo skin out several men well today ... effortlessly ... and had his portion of passes to carve out chances on goal. Some months ago, I commented without elaborating (I believe in response to a comment by FF) regarding (abstract) possession being overrated ... @ the end of the day, creating chances is where I put my money.
I shall follow my routine till Sunday. :devil:
lol Well ah know yuh doh like Spain at all, so ah not frighten...
...But just to be safe, I think the mods should ban DHW from posting until this tournament has ended.
Real glad for Balo.....The man has been playing well all tournament.
Not sure who happier today. mukumsplau cause he side win or Jus Cool cause Balo score two goals. ;D
Side note....Nadal just get ah cutarse from an unknown at Wimbledon....
Well done Balo... two nice goals... woulda been nice to see a hattrick. Is he injured for the final?
Pirlo jed!! damn!
Know of any replays? Where can I watch my boy's vindication?
Know of any replays? Where can I watch my boy's vindication?
Ballotelli thread
I thought Balotelli played really well but he needs to be a bit more clinical with his finishing. He need to watch some Romario tapes, when you get a flighted ball over the top is one touch to control and then another to slap hard or lob the keeper without thinking it. However he was giving them serious problems whole game, physical presence and coming short or going deep to play it simple. It will come!.
they dont make players like these again...this is the mark of a true captain...he said he was furious that italy almost threw it away against germany..he was even more passionate because the night before he spent over an hour watching the fan reactions back home in italy on youtube and it was sending chills through his spine..he wants to do this especially for the country...
Buffon: "I was angry at the end because we shouldn't have had to suffer towards the end after the game we played."
"This is a serious competition and we need to take our chances. If luck wasn't with us it would been a very different story."
gianni agnelli (god rest his soul) used to 'look at the man, not the player'...right now he's smiling looking at buffon out there...
http://www.youtube.com/v/8tmntmHm7rE
they dont make players like these again...this is the mark of a true captain...he said he was furious that italy almost threw it away against germany..he was even more passionate because the night before he spent over an hour watching the fan reactions back home in italy on youtube and it was sending chills through his spine..he wants to do this especially for the country...
Buffon: "I was angry at the end because we shouldn't have had to suffer towards the end after the game we played."
"This is a serious competition and we need to take our chances. If luck wasn't with us it would been a very different story."
gianni agnelli (god rest his soul) used to 'look at the man, not the player'...right now he's smiling looking at buffon out there...
http://www.youtube.com/v/8tmntmHm7rE
From Klinsmann's analysis on the BBC:
"Italy have done what most teams have not done so far and that is have a go at the German defence and they caused lots of problems.
"Putting Toni Kroos on Andrea Pirlo didn't work out at all, while Mario Gomez looked static and as a whole they could not match Italy. They lost the battles in midfield, and they couldn't control Pirlo, Riccardo Montolivo and Daniele De Rossi.
"A game like that it needs a special piece, too, and that was Balotelli's finishing but what makes me a bit upset, is we saw Pirlo play like that against England.
"We said you have to step on his toes and take the risk to look bad by getting to him. But no-one from the German team was willing to look bad. The last piece is sacrificing yourself for the team, and our midfield did not want to do that.
"The future lies in this team. They will continue to grow and mature but they were exploited by the Italians. Against Italy you could see they hit the wall."
Euro 2012: Joachim's Löw's Germany condemned to follow famous footsteps
Cesare Prandelli and Italy provide masterclass that means another near miss at a major tournament for Germany
Germany's coach, Joachim Löw, pictured, was outwitted in Warsaw by his Italy counterpart Cesare Prandelli.
Uwe Seeler and Karl-Heinz Schnellinger could not do it. Nor could Franz Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller. Or Paul Breitner and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Or Matthias Sammer and Jürgen Klinsmann. And last night Bastian Schweinsteiger and Mesut Ozil showed that they, too, could not do it. They could not beat Italy in a competitive fixture.
This result in Warsaw extends the historic sequence to four wins and four draws, going all the way back to the World Cup in Chile exactly 50 years ago, when the two sides drew 0-0 in a group match. Italy's goalkeeper that day was Lorenzo Buffon, a cousin of the grandfather of last night's captain, Gianluigi Buffon, whose hectic saves and punches buttressed a defence that endured typical Italian agonies as they clung to the lead supplied by Mario Balotelli's two goals.
That was quite a side back in 1962: Cesare Maldini, Omar Sívori, Jose Altafini and the 18-year-old Gianni Rivera established a template from which the results such as this are still being stamped out. And Germany, always so full of hope with generation after generation of shiny new-model players assembled in the spotless laboratories of the Bundesliga, are still being stamped on.
Coming into this tournament, Joachim Löw's squad were just about everybody's favourites to put an end to Spain's four-year grip on international football. They are the product of a programme that, in the last three years, had resulted in important victories over Italy at Under-17, Under-19 and Under-21 level. Before Thursday night, Löw's seniors had won 15 competitive fixtures in a row, beating a record previously held jointly by Spain, France and Holland. They seemed to be on an upward curve that began in Euro 2008 and continued at the World Cup two years ago. No doubt they and many others were hoping to see if they could reverse the result of the 2010 semi-final in Durban, where they lost to Spain by the only goal.
The style and quality of their football has made them perhaps the most widely admired Germany side since the team of Beckenbauer, Müller and Günther Netzer won the European title on home soil in 1972. With Ozil injecting the level of artistry and spontaneity once embodied by the great Netzer, this is a Germany we can all warm to.
On Thursday night they fought to the end but were not quite good enough to match Cesare Prandelli's remarkable Italy, the product of a man with a vision that involves taking the long-established virtues of Italian football and adding something extra. Just as Löw, right, has added emotion to German's efficiency, so Prandelli has made Italy much more than a brilliant defensive platform from which to mount the occasional counterattack. And, of course, he has Andrea Pirlo.
It took the English an awfully long time to discover Pirlo. And now that they have, everybody wants one. If only Roy Hodgson could unearth an English Pirlo, they are saying, all his problems would disappear. But it takes more than an Andrea Pirlo to make a team world class. The playmaker has to have someone to play with, a group of team-mates attuned to his patient geometry.
It takes a good team to extinguish Pirlo's influence, too, and that was German's priority on Thursday night. "He is the one who directs the game," Löw said, "so we'll have to stop him and get in his radius." Rudi Völler, one of his predecessors as Germany's head coach, added: "They have to isolate Pirlo."
Easier to say than to do, although Pirlo himself seemed to have an idea of how Germany might try to stifle him, comparing what he expected from Ozil to what he had got from Wayne Rooney. "I expect Ozil to be a greater threat in and around the areas where I'm playing," he said, "whereas Rooney stayed further up."
That was not how it worked out. Once again Pirlo sat deep, and once again he was able to find all the space he needed. In the 20th minute he swivelled and surprised the German cover by stroking the ball to the left, to Giorgio Chiellini, who fed Antonio Cassano further up the line, leading to the cross from which Balotelli gave his side the lead.
"We will not let Italy show us how to play football," Löw had said on the eve of the match, but the demonstration was under way.
Now Pirlo sat even further back, letting a younger man, the 27-year-old Riccardo Montolivo, run the show from the classic No10 position behind the two strikers. And in the 36th minute Montolivo collected Buffon's punched clearance, spotted Balotelli's run, and hit a long ball of perfect weight and trajectory for the striker to hammer past the motionless Manuel Neuer.
That wasn't Route One. It was the Via dei Condotti and the Via Veneto: the world of La Dolce Vita and the bella figura. It was the Appian Way, ancient Rome's "queen of the long roads". It was the football lesson Löw had been fearing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/28/euro-2012-germany-italy
in that first spain vs italy group stage match, de rossi was more in a sweeper position. what prandelli go try for de final?
Ah eh guh lie, keeper fuh keeper, still not sure who better as of late between him and casillas,
Ah eh guh lie, keeper fuh keeper, still not sure who better as of late between him and casillas,
Casillas.
Couldn't get chance to watch the game, but I woulda been rooting for Germany because they are one of my European teams, and because I usually can't stand Italy. That said, I happy for Balotelli... two sweet goals, and an equally sweet gesture to honor his adoptive mother. That moment was a thumb in the face of all the racists in Italy who would deny him as their own. I can't stand catenaccio, and to Prandelli's credit he has changed the tactical mentality of the squad since taking over, making them more enjoyable to watch.
Sunday will be the first time I will be rooting for Italy since the 94 final against Brazil. Then I rooted for them because of Baggio... and because everybody else was on the Brazil bandwagon. This time I'll root for them because I can't stand the whiny ass Spanish players, because their Federation does little to combat racism... and yes, because I want Balotelli to win yet another trophy.
Couldn't get chance to watch the game, but I woulda been rooting for Germany because they are one of my European teams, and because I usually can't stand Italy. That said, I happy for Balotelli... two sweet goals, and an equally sweet gesture to honor his adoptive mother. That moment was a thumb in the face of all the racists in Italy who would deny him as their own. I can't stand catenaccio, and to Prandelli's credit he has changed the tactical mentality of the squad since taking over, making them more enjoyable to watch.
Sunday will be the first time I will be rooting for Italy since the 94 final against Brazil. Then I rooted for them because of Baggio... and because everybody else was on the Brazil bandwagon. This time I'll root for them because I can't stand the whiny ass Spanish players, because their Federation does little to combat racism... and yes, because I want Balotelli to win yet another trophy.
And what exactly is the Italian Federation doing to combat racism???
Couldn't get chance to watch the game, but I woulda been rooting for Germany because they are one of my European teams, and because I usually can't stand Italy. That said, I happy for Balotelli... two sweet goals, and an equally sweet gesture to honor his adoptive mother. That moment was a thumb in the face of all the racists in Italy who would deny him as their own. I can't stand catenaccio, and to Prandelli's credit he has changed the tactical mentality of the squad since taking over, making them more enjoyable to watch.
Sunday will be the first time I will be rooting for Italy since the 94 final against Brazil. Then I rooted for them because of Baggio... and because everybody else was on the Brazil bandwagon. This time I'll root for them because I can't stand the whiny ass Spanish players, because their Federation does little to combat racism... and yes, because I want Balotelli to win yet another trophy.
And what exactly is the Italian Federation doing to combat racism???
Couldn't get chance to watch the game, but I woulda been rooting for Germany because they are one of my European teams, and because I usually can't stand Italy. That said, I happy for Balotelli... two sweet goals, and an equally sweet gesture to honor his adoptive mother. That moment was a thumb in the face of all the racists in Italy who would deny him as their own. I can't stand catenaccio, and to Prandelli's credit he has changed the tactical mentality of the squad since taking over, making them more enjoyable to watch.
Sunday will be the first time I will be rooting for Italy since the 94 final against Brazil. Then I rooted for them because of Baggio... and because everybody else was on the Brazil bandwagon. This time I'll root for them because I can't stand the whiny ass Spanish players, because their Federation does little to combat racism... and yes, because I want Balotelli to win yet another trophy.
And what exactly is the Italian Federation doing to combat racism???
I'm really not sure what yuh nitpicking about... I thought I was making it clear that they are the lesser of two evils, where I'm concerned? What did the Spanish Federation do to Aragones for his slur against Thierry Henry? To the Madrid fans who racially abused Emile Heskey and Ashley Cole? All that aside, at least the Italian Federation have a black man in the team though, Marcos Senna had a good run with Spain 4 years ago then never get call up again.
Not nick picking at all. Did not agree or disagree, I simply asked a question!
Couldn't get chance to watch the game, but I woulda been rooting for Germany because they are one of my European teams, and because I usually can't stand Italy. That said, I happy for Balotelli... two sweet goals, and an equally sweet gesture to honor his adoptive mother. That moment was a thumb in the face of all the racists in Italy who would deny him as their own. I can't stand catenaccio, and to Prandelli's credit he has changed the tactical mentality of the squad since taking over, making them more enjoyable to watch.
Sunday will be the first time I will be rooting for Italy since the 94 final against Brazil. Then I rooted for them because of Baggio... and because everybody else was on the Brazil bandwagon. This time I'll root for them because I can't stand the whiny ass Spanish players, because their Federation does little to combat racism... and yes, because I want Balotelli to win yet another trophy.
And what exactly is the Italian Federation doing to combat racism???
fine after fine after fine...if the clubs' fans keep acting up then you are forced to play in an empty stadium and further sanctions are placed on you if things persist. lazio are some of the biggest perpatrators with their nazi salutes and monkey chants etc
i guess it comes down to the anti-racism laws in that country. like UK...they seem to have a no nonsense approach where that is concerned...
As a neutral ah just want good, sweet, drama filled football.....and Balotelli to score....
ETHPAIN!
damn satellite acting up now? or is that my cable? Got a frozen screen.
ETHPAIN!
damn satellite acting up now? or is that my cable? Got a frozen screen.
Same here the feed is very choppy and went away for a while. Like it back now!
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Two great goals, inch perfect final passes. When Italy play a quick ball forward they give Spain problems. The slow build ups allow Spain to cover everything.
There is no way Italy can play 3 in the back vs Spain, madness from Lalass.
Spain on auto pilot now
There is no way Italy can play 3 in the back vs Spain, madness from Lalass.
I thought was me alone figure that eh sound correct......the upside to the end of this tournament, I eh have to listen to this arse for a while......
Pirlo is ah boss in de midfield. But is it just me or does he have ah "Boss yuh eh know who is me" look on he face when he is tackled.
We 2 Chelsea boys get ah cobo sweat and they both score.......lol
why did italy play with 10 men (missed 70mins of it)?
Wait, Torres win golden boot? Lol :rotfl:
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Well its official......Spain are the best team in the World at present.....No contest, no argument, no fuss or fight.......Best team ever...many better individuals on other Teams, but there has been no better complete Team, eand with such level of success..anybody coulda fall in and no adjustment would have to be made..they master the 2 touch.
Juventus get a serious cut ass from Barca today ;D
Well its official......Spain are the best team in the World at present.....No contest, no argument, no fuss or fight.......Best team ever...many better individuals on other Teams, but there has been no better complete Team, eand with such level of success..anybody coulda fall in and no adjustment would have to be made..they master the 2 touch.
Stueps
Stueps
How many years till xavi, silva, iniesta, and dem retire?
Ah think ah know how to beat them..therefore them big coaches do Now...but the problem is to get a TEAM together to do it..think about it, we is community small goal champs, how does one break up a small goal 2 touch strategy ? Especially one that flows through a central dam...hint :they kinda did it to Pirlo..he played their game, 11 tiger Claw masters, versus 1 with 8 labourers?...I think Germany woulda wuk them, but thought they wouldn't get pass Italy..advantage Del Bosque.. ;DWell its official......Spain are the best team in the World at present.....No contest, no argument, no fuss or fight.......Best team ever...many better individuals on other Teams, but there has been no better complete Team, eand with such level of success..anybody coulda fall in and no adjustment would have to be made..they master the 2 touch.
Yeah boy. How other teams going and beat dem anytime soon?? If Brazil feel dey going and walk off with the World Cup because they home, they better think again yes....the Spaniards just taking scalps, left right and center dread.....
Doh worry horse, spain eh winning no mo trophies with their cheating arse. my only beef was that italy played them too soft, no professional fouls @ all.Stueps
LOL.....LOL.....oh lawd Die Hard.....doh hate boy...... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Doh worry horse, spain eh winning no mo trophies with their cheating arse. my only beef was that italy played them too soft, no professional fouls @ all.Stueps
LOL.....LOL.....oh lawd Die Hard.....doh hate boy...... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Congrats to Spain... The best team won.
Was a bit disappointed with the Italian starting lineup, I thought Balzaretti shouldve started in front of Abate, who had a poor game. I also thought Prandelli could have considered the 3 defender formation which served them so well in the previous game against Spain.
That second goal from Alba should have never been allowed to happen. From where he started his run, no way no how that pass was supposed to find its way past Barzagli there. I think that knock the life out of Italy.
Di Natale had some chances which he had to do better, if he had scored one of them to bring it back to 2-1 then it may have been a different game. Also, De Rossi purge the side again with his errant passing and losing the ball.
As for Spain, credit where credit is due they deserve all the accolades they get. I personally don't want to get drawn on whether that is the best national team ever as i still find they lack a cutting edge to their play in the final third. Spain for me is Barcelona Lite, without the Messi and Dani Alves. They are some Brazilian, Italian and German teams of the past i personally would take before them, but you cannot argue with their record. 3 tournaments back to back is an amazing feat.
Big! goal x Lewandowski courtesy a wicked pass from Grosicki.
Germany v Poland delicately poised at the half.
Should Rashford be included in the England squad?I'm not sure if he'll be able to make the team considering he just came on the scene in the BPL. Credit to England they have Kane, Vardy, Welbeck, Walcott, Alli, Sturridge.....I've even heard debates as to if Rooney deserves a starting position or selection for that matter. I'm not sure if Rashford can make it ahead of any of those guys unless the coach Hodgson decides to bring him for the experience same way Erikkson added Walcott to the WC roster when he was 17/18.
With the best team in Europe taking ah break
Germany to win it all
My dark horse.....Spain
JUst to clarify....I am NOT a German fan. Never have been. Just being pragmatic. I'd prefer to see France win if I went with sentiment.
But any team with a forward line of Gignac, Griezmann, Coman, and Martial unlikely to win a tournament.
Above all else...I want to see positive, attractive, technical football.
Gignac is way down the pecking order and Giroud is above him anyway. Griezmann just had a great season scoring against the best clubs in Europe.
Don't forget France have maybe the best central midfielder in the world. Pogba can turn a game.
I goin with Poland to surprise us.
Germany to win it all
My dark horse.....Spain
JUst to clarify....I am NOT a German fan. Never have been. Just being pragmatic. I'd prefer to see France win if I went with sentiment.
But any team with a forward line of Gignac, Griezmann, Coman, and Martial unlikely to win a tournament.
Above all else...I want to see positive, attractive, technical football.
Gignac is way down the pecking order and Giroud is above him anyway. Griezmann just had a great season scoring against the best clubs in Europe.
Don't forget France have maybe the best central midfielder in the world. Pogba can turn a game.
I goin with Poland to surprise us.
Netherlands boy jeez.
Netherlands boy jeez.
So all yuh could understand why the tournament was not on my radar this year......*sigh *
:rotfl:Netherlands boy jeez.
So all yuh could understand why the tournament was not on my radar this year......*sigh *
Like it wasn't on de Netherlands radar either. :devil:
:rotfl:Netherlands boy jeez.
So all yuh could understand why the tournament was not on my radar this year......*sigh *
Like it wasn't on de Netherlands radar either. :devil:
sweet hahahaha :rotfl:Netherlands boy jeez.
So all yuh could understand why the tournament was not on my radar this year......*sigh *
Like it wasn't on de Netherlands radar either. :devil:
Netherlands boy jeez.
So all yuh could understand why the tournament was not on my radar this year......*sigh *
Like it wasn't on de Netherlands radar either. :devil:
Abby Wambach commenting on the Euros? Who dreamed that up?
Abby Wambach commenting on the Euros? Who dreamed that up?
For both tournaments, the studio team has been mostly useless.
Abby Wambach commenting on the Euros? Who dreamed that up?
For both tournaments, the studio team has been mostly useless.
She, in particular, strikes me as woeful. She is unprepared and adds no value. And she says the same thing haltingly in about 50 different ways.
ESPN allyuh fail.
Netherlands boy jeez.
So all yuh could understand why the tournament was not on my radar this year......*sigh *
Like it wasn't on de Netherlands radar either. :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
That game needed a Vardy, Sturridge or Rashford
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Abby Wambach commenting on the Euros? Who dreamed that up?and talk a lotta crap too...espn does a great disservice to the game apparently they think having players of some renown enhances the quality of commentary .....her first words wants to see if England playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-2....
Is it me or Raheem Sterling does run and run and then fizzle to nothing??..... :-\
Abby Wambach commenting on the Euros? Who dreamed that up?and talk a lotta crap too...espn does a great disservice to the game apparently they think having players of some renown enhances the quality of commentary .....her first words wants to see if England playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-2....
England was missing a X factor to defeat Russia. Messi or Ronaldo
England was missing a X factor to defeat Russia. Messi or Ronaldo
Been missing an x factor since 66
Abby Wambach commenting on the Euros? Who dreamed that up?and talk a lotta crap too...espn does a great disservice to the game apparently they think having players of some renown enhances the quality of commentary .....her first words wants to see if England playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-2....
Doh shake Joachim Löw's hand. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hajqD_ylV0)
Italy were magnificent today especially in the last 20 mins.
The Juve backline was solid.
Belgium still play like newcomers.
Doh shake Joachim Löw's hand. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hajqD_ylV0)
lol........'geed......he should do like d ress ah we and scratch he balls in private :D
Cameras? What cameras?
Doh shake Joachim Löw's hand. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hajqD_ylV0)
lol........'geed......he should do like d ress ah we and scratch he balls in private :D
More relaxed dress code than years past. I guess he is ultra-comfortable and relaxed in his position. Probably would not have occurred in a shirt.
Cameras? What cameras?
Why did he smell it? Geed
Viewing Slaven Bilic on ITV speaking about the context behind the supporter unrest. He tongue-in cheek said as a result of constant fines, "we are UEFA's biggest sponsors".
A segment of the fans is against the Croatian federation and have a long history of disrupting proceedings. The rivalry and different fortunes surrounding the relationship between Dinamo Zagreb (north of country) and Hajduk Split (from the south) were cited as contributing factors.
Viewing Slaven Bilic on ITV speaking about the context behind the supporter unrest. He tongue-in cheek said as a result of constant fines, "we are UEFA's biggest sponsors".
A segment of the fans is against the Croatian federation and have a long history of disrupting proceedings. The rivalry and different fortunes surrounding the relationship between Dinamo Zagreb (north of country) and Hajduk Split (from the south) were cited as contributing factors.
Have you see the "vice" piece on Hajduk Split vs Dinamo Zagreb (not the 5 min clip on Youtube..one on Vice TV)
This Hungary side beat somebody? They making some amateur mistakes.
I suppose is a sign if your keeper looking like he pull together his uniform from stuff he had in the trunk of his car.
This Hungary side beat somebody? They making some amateur mistakes.
I suppose is a sign if your keeper looking like he pull together his uniform from stuff he had in the trunk of his car.
;D A serious throw-back to Puskas days. Ah sure he gehhin fined by the goalkeepers union.
Ronaldo: no goals from 35 free kicks in major tournaments. Bale: 2 goals from 3 free kicks in major tournaments.
Croatia upset Spain to top the group. They (Spain) now meet Italy in the round of 16.....oh yeah.....mih only dilemma is how to watch that and work at the same time on Monday.....
mih only dilemma is how to watch that and work at the same time on Monday.....
Croatia made 5 changes, no Modric no Mandzukic.While England finish 2nd and get to face Iceland or Hungary :cursing:
Italy must feel hard done by. They win their group and have to face Spain.
This Hungary side beat somebody? They making some amateur mistakes.
I suppose is a sign if your keeper looking like he pull together his uniform from stuff he had in the trunk of his car.
;D A serious throw-back to Puskas days. Ah sure he gehhin fined by the goalkeepers union.
wow, real shootoutit lookin so..but that Portuguese defense crappy
Ah tune in late. Like dey get CR7 angry. He motivated after throwing that mic in de lake. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:I think he trying to one up messi
ireland, northern ireland, england and wales ?!!?!?!
ireland, northern ireland, england and wales ?!!?!?!
I was now coming to post that. This is Great Britain 2016.
Scotland lapsing
Reality will set in on the weekend though... :devil:
Too many Irelands for my likin. Jk whoever do the job deserve it yes. Look Portugal avoid the hard side of the bracket but they meet up Croatia haha. Croatia look ruthless yesterday, they could make the final.
ireland, northern ireland, england and wales ?!!?!?!
I was now coming to post that. This is Great Britain 2016.
Scotland lapsing
Reality will set in on the weekend though... :devil:
;Direland, northern ireland, england and wales ?!!?!?!
I was now coming to post that. This is Great Britain 2016.
Scotland lapsing
Reality will set in on the weekend though... :devil:
Is a next Brexit coming. Headline done make.
I was noe coming to post that Shaqiri is overrated. But then he gone and do that...lol
He still overrated.
Since when you don't have to advance the ball over the half during kickoffs? I've noticed in the Euro and Copa that one player goes into the center circle and play the ball back on kickoffs.
Copa America also has changes ...
:beermug:Since when you don't have to advance the ball over the half during kickoffs? I've noticed in the Euro and Copa that one player goes into the center circle and play the ball back on kickoffs.
That rule just changed. This is the first big tournament where the new rules are in effect:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/08/kickoffs-backwards-rule-changes
Copa America also has changes ...
True, i done forget them oui.
This game like two bus park and one have a flat tire.
This game like two bus park and one have a flat tire.
With th amount of good football that has been played last couple of weeks this was painful at times to watch
Croatia needed a bush bath.ah feel for them....play more ball the Portugal......that Portugal team would be better without Ronaldo
That was cruel.Yes, heartbreaking way to go out.
Renato Sanches: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:That youthman was the most impactful player for Portugal and he did well for them to get the goal.
Croatia needed a bush bath.ah feel for them....play more ball the Portugal......that Portugal team would be better without Ronaldo
Have either Dembele or Fellaini seen any action in this tournament?
Hope to see him do well at BayernRenato Sanches: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:That youthman was the most impactful player for Portugal and he did well for them to get the goal.
Slow game. ITA v. ESP.
Done and dusted. Now can Germany overcome this rounds? 2012, 2006, etc
Hook, line and sinker
Edit: Just see a Trini flag as Conte run like a wild man celebrating
There's a lesson (and a message) in fans singing their anthem during moments of adversity. That by itself should bring players to sacrifice.
Start of the half: Darke and Mcnanaman: Penalty, we go buss them up!
After the 2nd goal: Plenty of time. The right wing is a part-time doubles man.
End of the half: Who let these shithounds on the field wearing England uniforms?
Why is Rooney still on the field?
Why is Rooney still on the field?
Why is Rooney still on the field?Hodgson read your post.
Brexit is almost complete.
Iceland is the dark horse :devil::party:
That is what you get when you put too many spurs men in your squad... :devil:
Roy's first words at the press conference should be. "I resign"
Rashford should have been on much earlier. Kane taking terrible free kicks. You need creativity and you have Barkley on the bench?
That is what you get when you put too many spurs men in your squad... :devil:
That is what you get when you put too many spurs men in your squad... :devil:
Nail meet hammer
Iceland right now is a good example for other countries with small populations who use their pop size as an excuse for not being competitive at top levels. For them to even qualify for the Euro is an accomplishment by itself.
ah mean, if messi ready to leave the NT after failing to win a title in three consecutive finals .... what rooney excuse?
Don't think it's up to the football federations as much as it up to the People. Just Iceland cheer show a oneness and purpose. Would they reach further maybe,maybe not..but i doubt anybody will waste their team individuals down, regardless of how they play on the day.
Iceland right now is a good example for other countries with small populations who use their pop size as an excuse for not being competitive at top levels. For them to even qualify for the Euro is an accomplishment by itself.
I want to repeat this.. I hope the Caribbean nations football federations taking notes. Look at Iceland population and look what they are accomplishing. Doh be surprise if dey make it to the World Cup eh
Iceland's government invested into sports (training grounds, coaching, etc.) in the early to mid 2000's now they're reaping the benefits. They said even in 2010 when their economy took a hit they did not sacrifice funding or pull the plug providing the adequate resources for sports.
Iceland right now is a good example for other countries with small populations who use their pop size as an excuse for not being competitive at top levels. For them to even qualify for the Euro is an accomplishment by itself.
I want to repeat this.. I hope the Caribbean nations football federations taking notes. Look at Iceland population and look what they are accomplishing. Doh be surprise if dey make it to the World Cup eh
Start of the half: Darke and Mcnanaman: Penalty, we go buss them up!
After the 2nd goal: Plenty of time. The right wing is a part-time doubles man.
End of the half: Who let these shithounds on the field wearing England uniforms?
On ITV, Lee Dixon, Ian Wright and Peter Crouch are in distress.
I doh know what the US coverage keyed in on, but the British coverage slammed Hodgson and Neville for not having addressed the Iceland long throw threat, especially when it was repeated after half time and Rooney was still covering the giant.
Dixon in particular thought that was emblematic of root problems worth half a million quid (RH's salary supposedly).
Bottom line was: Roy= 80s football. Not that players escaped criticism for ...
Brexit is almost complete.
I watched bbc motd with lineker, shearer, rio and jenas.You mean Harry Kane's free kicks....they were atrocious
Everybody face was real long.
They talked about the failure to prepare for the iceland long throw, Sterling and Wilshire getting to play, sturridge playing as a winger, vardy's free kicks and hart's mistake.
Shearer said he wants to coach the team.
You mean Harry Kane's free kicks....they were atrocious
if Belgium do end up playing Portugal. I think Portugal will be at a disadvantage simply because Belgium uses more of the middle of the field than Portugal
Portugal Belgium should be a decent semi if you can excuse me from counting Begium's chickens before they hatch.
Quaresma is a frustrating player boy. He is usually an artisan when kicking the ball but this man put a corner out for a goal kick and just hit some bad crosses.
Yeah and THEN he hit a great penalty to win. High and hard.
If yuh watch the footage of Conte celebrating the 2nd goal vs Spain yuh will see a big Trini flag hanging behind the bench.
Portugal Belgium should be a decent semi if you can excuse me from counting Begium's chickens before they hatch.
Quaresma is a frustrating player boy. He is usually an artisan when kicking the ball but this man put a corner out for a goal kick and just hit some bad crosses.
Yeah and THEN he hit a great penalty to win. High and hard.
If yuh watch the footage of Conte celebrating the 2nd goal vs Spain yuh will see a big Trini flag hanging behind the bench.
You mean Harry Kane's free kicks....they were atrocious
Yeah kane I mean.
Ribbit they chastise everybody on offense especially Sterling. He aimlessly ran into defenders and lost the ball. He look like Space Jam when the aliens took all the players' skills away.
I really came to post that cristiano hit another free kick into the wall from far. His technique is utter shit.
Almost complete. UKIP on dey feet. #Brexit
Belgium really missing those centre-backs
Kompany is missing in the heart of the defence. But looking shaky is an understatement. Belgium have Wales looking like a Pep coached Barcelona team.Belgium really missing those centre-backs
Some one(s) missing?? That's why Belgian defence looking so shaky?
Kompany is missing in the heart of the defence. But looking shaky is an understatement. Belgium have Wales looking like a Pep coached Barcelona team.Belgium really missing those centre-backs
Some one(s) missing?? That's why Belgian defence looking so shaky?
Kompany is missing in the heart of the defence. But looking shaky is an understatement. Belgium have Wales looking like a Pep coached Barcelona team.Belgium really missing those centre-backs
Some one(s) missing?? That's why Belgian defence looking so shaky?
Is troot.....ah forget he doing comentary for ESPN.....he must be grinding like a sugar mill.......agreed re: Wales.....dem ent usually so dangerous looking....come on Belgium....complete the Brexit.....
Nainggolan smokes 6 to 10 a day. Imagine how many legs he would break without a pack.
Wales play for dat....dey deserve it, Belgium never look like ah TEAM
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Why Ian Darke all up under Twellman....look like he teefin ah wineLOL
Happy for wales. And Iceland is prof that with the good coaching and the right player attitude a small country can compete. I only wish that T&T could do the same.
Why Ian Darke all up under Twellman....look like he teefin ah wine:rotfl:
Victory loves preparation......
Victory loves preparation......
The ref ent love Germany there.
Victory loves preparation......
The ref ent love Germany there.
Dat wasn't a hand ball??
Victory loves preparation......
The ref ent love Germany there.
Dat wasn't a hand ball??
Fouls and Misconduct
Handling the ball
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the
ball with the hand or arm.
The following must be considered:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.)
is an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an
infringement
Victory loves preparation......
The ref ent love Germany there.
Dat wasn't a hand ball??
Fouls and Misconduct
Handling the ball
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the
ball with the hand or arm.
The following must be considered:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.)
is an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an
infringement
........perhaps this is what the refree applied?? I interpret "not necessarily" to mean its possible the position of the hand could result in a penalty......
To my lay man's eyes Boateng hand in de air like just looked like a no no.....ent the guide/rule is doh put yuh hand in a position like to that to avoid exactly what the ref probably blow for??
Victory loves preparation......
The ref ent love Germany there.
Dat wasn't a hand ball??
Fouls and Misconduct
Handling the ball
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the
ball with the hand or arm.
The following must be considered:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.)
is an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an
infringement
........perhaps this is what the refree applied?? I interpret "not necessarily" to mean its possible the position of the hand could result in a penalty......
To my lay man's eyes Boateng hand in de air like just looked like a no no.....ent the guide/rule is doh put yuh hand in a position like to that to avoid exactly what the ref probably blow for??
Not necessarily means just because the ball hits your hand, doesn't mean it's an infraction.
The deliberate part leads to discussions of intent, which is why you have all this ole talk about if the arm is in an unnatural position. In the case of what we just saw, the penalty was clearly the wrong call, same with the Yedlin call in 1st game of the copa.
The fact that this kind of call goes on all the time suggests that FIFA is comfortable with the interpretation. but according to the laws, no infraction.
Zaza just wanted to get he steps in for the day.
That was horrible.
The game was good but not attractive. I guess that's what happen when 2 strong teams meet. War of attrition. Not artistic at all. Penalties ...... Two great keepers psyched out those miskickers.If you notice Buffon almost saved the last one
His hands were up to demonstrate that he wasn't fouling the player in front of him.
Say what, this is headed to penalties.
His hands were up to demonstrate that he wasn't fouling the player in front of him.
Say what, this is headed to penalties.
oh hor....hhhmmmm..........I'll get a chance to watch it again....
His hands were up to demonstrate that he wasn't fouling the player in front of him.
Say what, this is headed to penalties.
oh hor....hhhmmmm..........I'll get a chance to watch it again....
Ah watch it again.....Boateng damn lucky Germany won in de end.....ah hope de coach make him walk back to the hotel....
His hands were up to demonstrate that he wasn't fouling the player in front of him.
Say what, this is headed to penalties.
oh hor....hhhmmmm..........I'll get a chance to watch it again....
Ah watch it again.....Boateng damn lucky Germany won in de end.....ah hope de coach make him walk back to the hotel....
The game was good but not attractive. I guess that's what happen when 2 strong teams meet. War of attrition. Not artistic at all. Penalties ...... Two great keepers psyched out those miskickers.If you notice Buffon almost saved the last one
The comeback is on!
The comeback is off!
The comeback is on!
The comeback is off!Hahahahaha :rofl:
The comeback is off!
They might be good for 2 more.
Iceland have been using the same starting 11 each game. Yuh hadda rotate for players to recover.
Plus about 8 of them were on a yellow coming into the game, and the way they play they bound to pick up yellows.
They good but playing like that it hard to last.
Those two quick goals were a killer. Wales just didn't have enough to mount a comeback.Yes that was nasty, it also had a defender who hit a Welshman a sombrero nice and easy in true Bob Marley who the cap fit let them wear it fashion.
Allyuh see Quaresma breed a welsh and get foul? No respect.
Ramsey's absence did not help either. But Putigal deserved it.True, he was sorely missed.
Only way to score on Germany is PK from a handball
Only way to score on Germany is PK from a handball
Or for Giroud to be faster
34 years ago ... July 8, 1982. Classic battle between Schumacher and Battiston. :devil:
France going to win the Cup at home, just like they won the World Cup at home in 98
France going to win the Cup at home, just like they won the World Cup at home in 98
Portugal going to shock the hosts like Greece did to them in 2004.
Ronaldo vs Griezmann again in a final.
France going to win the Cup at home, just like they won the World Cup at home in 98
Portugal going to shock the hosts like Greece did to them in 2004.
I hope not....I wanna see Pretty boy cry....again.... ;D
Giroud is French for pull stones?
Zzzzz
is santos the manager of the tournament so far?
I wonder how much longer can Portugal hold on, their keep has been outstanding in this game.
Yuh almost had 1 in de dregsI wonder how much longer can Portugal hold on, their keep has been outstanding in this game.
1. Gignac to win it all
2. Quaresma to shine at the other end
3. Sissoko to pull a Thuram
Wasn't it Eder was compared to KJ?Yup....he's made an impact since he came on
is santos the manager of the tournament so far?
At least for body language and facial expressions. He and Conte.
Éder: making a solid contribution as sub.
Quaresma lock de man neck yes lol
Had that scored dey woulda riot on de Champs Elysee. De free kick that is.
Coz dey jes scored.
Had that scored dey woulda riot on de Champs Elysee. De free kick that is.
Coz dey jes scored.
There were already riots earlier. Now they'll start for real.
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/tear-gas-and-water-cannon-used-at-fan-zone-during-franceportugal-match-34872052.html
Had that scored dey woulda riot on de Champs Elysee. De free kick that is.
Coz dey jes scored.
That's what they get for copying Iceland's viking chant.
Portugal really raised their game today. Are they the smallest country to win it?
I know they have small population.
Big achievement
I dislike the English press when England are playing. Insigne and company, please dun dem.
Maybe if England win they will become more gracious. Or maybe they'll get worse, more smug and annoying.
Either way I hope it is a great game
During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.
During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.
I beg to differ asylum. Ever since I following football and that is from the mid 60s, England and the clubs teams have had a strong following. Just go back to the names of clubs of the past. Straight otta of England. But that did not mean everything was all English. South America and Brazil were very popular. The Brazilians fostered great fantasy. Garrincha and Pele and Di Stefano to an extent.
I think by 70/74 things started to change with satelite TV. We able to see games 74 WC live for the first time. So we started to see different countries and clubs. Bayern, Ajax, Madrid, the Milans, Juve, etc
But their is still a strong nostalgia for English football. Just ask those who grew up when Liverpool used to run thisngs in the late 70s and 80s. It have diehard pool fans in TT.
During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.you’re quite wrong with that assumption. I am a colchester, west brom and a lions fan, I love the lions as well as countless trinis jamaicans and Africans. the reason why Caribbeans did not support England in the past was because they ignored some wonderfully talented players like Garth crooks for instance, so the older Caribbeans was never interested in supporting English football let alone go to the parks for club games be because of the racist intent and lack of representation.
During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.you’re quite wrong with that assumption. I am a colchester, west brom and a lions fan, I love the lions as well as countless trinis jamaicans and Africans. the reason why Caribbeans did not support England in the past was because they ignored some wonderfully talented players like Garth crooks for instance, so the older Caribbeans was never interested in supporting English football let alone go to the parks for club games be because of the racist intent and lack of representation.
It was only after John barns made the English team did caribbean people in my generation started paying serious attention to the lions, and as the years rolled on the second and third generation English born caribbean and african fans became more interested. the reason why most caribbeans don’t support their caribbean home football teams is because they are shit…..putting it quite frankly, and there are lots of trinis who follow England for that reason, in fact there are lots of trinis who were crushed by this loss including my cousins, in fact I’m crushed TBH.
I believe southgate got it wrong wrong wrong by playing a defensive strategy and even more wrong for brining on rashford and sancho at the end of the game when they should have been introduced for the whole 30 mins of extra time, and even more wrong for letting them kick penalties without a full 20 minutes of action, none the less I’m disturbed by this loss….maybe we’ll win the world cup and make up for it….maybe.
The few English supporters I know do so out of an affinity for the Premier League. I happy for dem....I root for every team that plays against England. De trophy must never go home....i understand your sentiments on good ole john bull dog and his checkered past, but at the same time in your disgust for one team, you must also be careful as to whom you lend your support too, and i could tell you that italy is no haven for black people especially in football.
p.s. I watched de game with some friends including a man who spent most of his life in England and moved back to Trinidad about 5 - 6 years ago. He was NOT backing England....the 6 of us all supported Italy...... ;D ;D
you must remember i spend much more of my time in england than any where else, and as much as i know how utterly shitty the brits can be, a part of me see it as home. and TBH i don't see the caribbean as any less racist than england. in fact i saw this in my own household.During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.you’re quite wrong with that assumption. I am a colchester, west brom and a lions fan, I love the lions as well as countless trinis jamaicans and Africans. the reason why Caribbeans did not support England in the past was because they ignored some wonderfully talented players like Garth crooks for instance, so the older Caribbeans was never interested in supporting English football let alone go to the parks for club games be because of the racist intent and lack of representation.
It was only after John barns made the English team did caribbean people in my generation started paying serious attention to the lions, and as the years rolled on the second and third generation English born caribbean and african fans became more interested. the reason why most caribbeans don’t support their caribbean home football teams is because they are shit…..putting it quite frankly, and there are lots of trinis who follow England for that reason, in fact there are lots of trinis who were crushed by this loss including my cousins, in fact I’m crushed TBH.
I believe southgate got it wrong wrong wrong by playing a defensive strategy and even more wrong for brining on rashford and sancho at the end of the game when they should have been introduced for the whole 30 mins of extra time, and even more wrong for letting them kick penalties without a full 20 minutes of action, none the less I’m disturbed by this loss….maybe we’ll win the world cup and make up for it….maybe.
Oh, so you have somewhere else to be if you're not here. :devil:
No assumption made, merely inquiring. You are spot on about Garth Crooks and the why of that period. In my view, the legacy of Crooks' exclusion has evolved but is still part of a pernicious aspect of England, magnified by Windrush revelations ... the same people that called into 606 cussing Sterling in recent time have been the ones with amnesia as they marched to the final.
There isn't a Cross of St. George I would waive for football.
During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.
I beg to differ asylum. Ever since I following football and that is from the mid 60s, England and the clubs teams have had a strong following. Just go back to the names of clubs of the past. Straight otta of England. But that did not mean everything was all English. South America and Brazil were very popular. The Brazilians fostered great fantasy. Garrincha and Pele and Di Stefano to an extent.
I think by 70/74 things started to change with satelite TV. We able to see games 74 WC live for the first time. So we started to see different countries and clubs. Bayern, Ajax, Madrid, the Milans, Juve, etc
But their is still a strong nostalgia for English football. Just ask those who grew up when Liverpool used to run thisngs in the late 70s and 80s. It have diehard pool fans in TT.
I agree with that on a club level, but as far as NT support from 1970 on, I sensed that ppl were for Brazil or Argentina, maybe the Dutch at a point, France at a later point, maybe Germany a lil ... but England?
I'm curious how posters see this by decade. Maybe the ppl who came of age being suckled on the Premier League post-2000 have a different perspective on favoring England support.
During the course of the tournament, I noticed that England had a base of supporters among Trinbagonians. This surprised me. I almost swear there was a moment in time when Trinbagonians "respected" English football but would NOT support an English team.
I beg to differ asylum. Ever since I following football and that is from the mid 60s, England and the clubs teams have had a strong following. Just go back to the names of clubs of the past. Straight otta of England. But that did not mean everything was all English. South America and Brazil were very popular. The Brazilians fostered great fantasy. Garrincha and Pele and Di Stefano to an extent.
I think by 70/74 things started to change with satelite TV. We able to see games 74 WC live for the first time. So we started to see different countries and clubs. Bayern, Ajax, Madrid, the Milans, Juve, etc
But their is still a strong nostalgia for English football. Just ask those who grew up when Liverpool used to run thisngs in the late 70s and 80s. It have diehard pool fans in TT.
I agree with that on a club level, but as far as NT support from 1970 on, I sensed that ppl were for Brazil or Argentina, maybe the Dutch at a point, France at a later point, maybe Germany a lil ... but England?
I'm curious how posters see this by decade. Maybe the ppl who came of age being suckled on the Premier League post-2000 have a different perspective on favoring England support.
I agree with that on a club level, but as far as NT support from 1970 on, I sensed that ppl were for Brazil or Argentina, maybe the Dutch at a point, France at a later point, maybe Germany a lil ... but England?
I agree. But England just was not winning. Until recently, not even at youth level. People just like winners.