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Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« on: July 31, 2008, 04:42:27 PM »
Miami FC to play Haiti with free admission this Saturday
07/31/08 - USL First Division (USLFD) Miami FC


Miami, July 31, 2008 - Miami FC announced today that this Saturday, August 2nd at 5 pm (ET) Miami FC will play an exhibition game against the Haitian National Football Team at the Little Haiti Soccer Complex in North Miami (260 NE 59 Terrace). Admission to the game will be free and it should be a competitive match between two teams looking to achieve great things in the upcoming weeks.

During the match, Miami FC will announce a promotion which is aimed at Haitians living in South Florida and support the Blues. Those who attend Miami's next home game on August 24th against the Charleston Battery will have an opportunity to win 2 round trip airline tickets to Haiti and two tickets to see Haiti play Costa Rica in a 2010 World Cup Qualifier in Port-au-Prince on September 10th at 5 pm (ET).

Miami FC is in a battle to make the playoffs and will use this game to prepare for their next match against the Atlanta Silverbacks on August 8th, in Georgia. In their previous encounter, Miami lost a very close game to the first place Vancouver Whitecaps 2-1 at Tropical Park Stadium. Before that game however, the Blues thumped the Atlanta Silverbacks 3-0 to move into 6th place in the standings. Miami is led up front by forward Alex Afonso who currently leads the USL-1 in goals with 10.

Haiti is currently in the qualifying phases for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. They have an upcoming qualifying match on August 20th against Suriname and will use this game to get ready for their future fixtures. In 2007 Haiti was crowned Champion of the Caribbean Cup after beating Trinidad and Tobago 2-1 in the final. The Haitians are captained by former Miami FC goalkeeper Gabard Fénélon who currently plays for Racing Club Haitien. In 2008 Wagneau Eloi was given the head coaching job and will be steering Les Grenadiers toward South Africa.

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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 05:00:03 PM »
good luck getting in there. all dem north miami haitians go bum rush dat. they must be done camping out already.

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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 05:08:48 PM »
How them aint mention Haiti just get beat 2-0 by TnT  ;D, but instead they put results from last year..  In America is all about marketing so they want to make it like Haiti is such a great team.

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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 05:11:40 PM »
buh is how much blade dem frenchies want avery?

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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 06:48:37 AM »
Miami FC and Haiti ends in a 1-1 draw
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Miami, August 2nd, 2008-In front of a hyped up crowd of nearly 1,300 people in Little Haiti Soccer Complex, Miami FC vs. Haiti friendly match ended in a 1-1 draw, with both goals scored during the second half.

Miami FC started the game without much creativity and didn't generate many scoring chances in the first half. Haiti came out organized and had more possession of the ball. The best scoring chance came in the 30th minute when Haitian left wing crossed the ball but Haitian forward wasn't able to reach it.

The first half ended scoreless.

Miami FC came out stronger in the second half, but it was Haiti that scored first. In the 68th minute Haiti's number 18 had a powerful kick outside the box. Before reaching the goal, the ball deflected off a Miami FC player which completely tricked Sam Reynolds, Miami FC's goalkeeper.

Miami FC responded quickly and tied the game up in the 75th minute.  Bruno Menezes rushed down the right flank and crossed a perfect ball over all the Haitian defenders and Miami FC's forward Willie Sims headed the ball to the back of the net.

Miami FC and Haiti continued to put pressure but the game ended in a 1-1 draw.

"I was very pleased on what I saw on the field in the second half. Our team showed that we have very good  quality to play against a strong national team like Haiti" remarked Zinho, Miami FC's head coach.

Miami's next game is away at Silverbacks Park on Friday, August 8th against the same Atlanta team the Blues defeated 3-0 this past Sunday. Miami's next home match at Tropical Park is on August 24th against the Charleston Battery. Group tickets are currently on sale by visiting our ticket page by calling 305-728-2612. Single game tickets are available through Ticketmaster.com or by calling 1-866-57-MIAMI. Watch all of Miami's away games and all other USL games live on USL Live!
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 07:41:49 AM »
As I mentioned several months ago, Haiti will not make it out of the group stage with the current coach.

Jn-Bart has hired the incompetent and inexperienced coach Wagneau Eloi to replace the Haitian-Cuban coach Armelio Garcia and since then Haiti has not won a single game other than that pathetic match against the N-A in which the curacao boys dug their own grave.

Eloi started his reign with some unfortunate comments against the local players whom he has called lazy and malnourished. Thus, his relation with some of the best local players is irreversibly shattered. The team for example played his last two matches without Bruny and Cadet and the other vets like Fucien and Boucicaut who are still in the team know that they're there until Eloi and his friends find some 3rd or 4th division French players to replace them. In other words, the national team they have helped build as a real contender in the concacaf region has been taken away from them.

Eloi's primary goal was to simply replace all the local players with foreign-based players of Haitian origin, a plan that doesn't sound well with the locals who know even if they give it all for their country they will eventually be replaced by players who in most cases have never been to Haiti before and/or have never felt like they're really Haitians like that was the case for coach Eloi himself who ignored Haiti's calls during his prime while waiting in vain for a call from France.

Ironically, the coach has been unable to convince a single one of those 'foreign players' to join the team. Those guys who are Haitians on the paper, but French at heart simply don't want to hurt their chance to represent their home country (France). Thus, the unpopular coach is now forced to rely on some inexperienced players like St-Preux whom he erroneously keeps using as a striker while the guy is naturally a midfielder. The worst is that the coach is using that U-23 guy as the lone striker of the team. Consequences: Haiti has not scored a single goal in 3 international matches and the team is now 1 Win 4draws  5 Losses in its last 10 international games!!!!!

My prediction is, unless Eloi is kicked out and quickly replaced with a real coach, Haiti will not make it pass Costa Rica and El Salvador. Haiti is ripe for success and the team only needs the right coach to make it happen.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2008, 07:49:36 AM by Toussaint »
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 08:39:58 AM »
As I mentioned several months ago, Haiti will not make it out of the group stage with the current coach.

Jn-Bart has hired the incompetent and inexperienced coach Wagneau Eloi to replace the Haitian-Cuban coach Armelio Garcia and since then Haiti has not won a single game other than that pathetic match against the N-A in which the curacao boys dug their own grave.

Eloi started his reign with some unfortunate comments against the local players whom he has called lazy and malnourished. Thus, his relation with some of the best local players is irreversibly shattered. The team for example played his last two matches without Bruny and Cadet and the other vets like Fucien and Boucicaut who are still in the team know that they're there until Eloi and his friends find some 3rd or 4th division French players to replace them. In other words, the national team they have helped build as a real contender in the concacaf region has been taken away from them.

Eloi's primary goal was to simply replace all the local players with foreign-based players of Haitian origin, a plan that doesn't sound well with the locals who know even if they give it all for their country they will eventually be replaced by players who in most cases have never been to Haiti before and/or have never felt like they're really Haitians like that was the case for coach Eloi himself who ignored Haiti's calls during his prime while waiting in vain for a call from France.

Ironically, the coach has been unable to convince a single one of those 'foreign players' to join the team. Those guys who are Haitians on the paper, but French at heart simply don't want to hurt their chance to represent their home country (France). Thus, the unpopular coach is now forced to rely on some inexperienced players like St-Preux whom he erroneously keeps using as a striker while the guy is naturally a midfielder. The worst is that the coach is using that U-23 guy as the lone striker of the team. Consequences: Haiti has not scored a single goal in 3 international matches and the team is now 1 Win 4draws  5 Losses in its last 10 international games!!!!!

My prediction is, unless Eloi is kicked out and quickly replaced with a real coach, Haiti will not make it pass Costa Rica and El Salvador. Haiti is ripe for success and the team only needs the right coach to make it happen.
which player in fracne is he look at btw... I want haiti to make to that final hex
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 09:25:47 AM »
Marc Antoine Fortune, Nancy League 1

He denied he is Haitian and said he would rather play for his home country Fr. Guyana (many Fr. Guyanese players can also play for Haiti)

Yves Hadley Demarest, Vittoria Guimaraes (Portugal first division)

He has before expressed a desire to play for Haiti but he seems to be waiting for France or maybe Portugal since he has not yet been called by France. He's one of the finest midfielders in the Portuguese top division.

Johnny Placide, Le Havre

Johnny has played for Haiti at the Olympics. However, He seems to have used it as a way to showcase his talents to France. He is quite silent when called for the senior team.

Reginald Goreux, Standard Liege (Belgium)

Talented young midfielder who has expressed a strong desire to play for Haiti. Lately, he seems to have changed his mind since he is currently considered one of the most promising young belgians in his adopted country.

There are others like Eudes, Jeroboam, Genevoix, and another talented youngster in Ireland name Nooitmeer Regilio.

The interesting thing is that even the ones who have played for us before don't seem too interested in working with Eloi who ironically was hired mostly for his 'european connections', not his coaching abilities ;D




« Last Edit: August 03, 2008, 09:31:20 AM by Toussaint »
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 10:28:09 AM »
Haitians like dey abandonin reppin Haiti like de plague.

Check Altidore.  ???

Toussaint.  Wha goin on wit Joseph Peterson?  Hope he doh run away from allyuh at senior level too.
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 11:17:40 AM »
Haitians like dey abandonin reppin Haiti like de plague.

Check Altidore.  ???

Toussaint.  Wha goin on wit Joseph Peterson?  Hope he doh run away from allyuh at senior level too.

Peterson lives in Haiti and he is also a member of Eloi's team. He did play against TnT and I believe he was probably the best midfielder Haitian in that game. But, as you know, he's not yet full grown. He's still a kid.

Palos, it's politics a la Haitienne. The current prez of the FHF is backing Eloi's plan but very few people in Haiti want to be seen as killing local football by supporting the new movement. Most Haitians are favorable to the idea of importing a few good players but oppose the replacement of all local players by foreigners. That's a huge issue in Haiti.
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2008, 12:47:12 PM »
Haitians like dey abandonin reppin Haiti like de plague.

Check Altidore.  ???

Toussaint.  Wha goin on wit Joseph Peterson?  Hope he doh run away from allyuh at senior level too.

Peterson lives in Haiti and he is also a member of Eloi's team. He did play against TnT and I believe he was probably the best midfielder Haitian in that game. But, as you know, he's not yet full grown. He's still a kid.

Palos, it's politics a la Haitienne. The current prez of the FHF is backing Eloi's plan but very few people in Haiti want to be seen as killing local football by supporting the new movement. Most Haitians are favorable to the idea of importing a few good players but oppose the replacement of all local players by foreigners. That's a huge issue in Haiti.

What if Eloi is correct and the players that are MOST SUITABLE & READY for International football are the foreign based players?

In reality, it's no different than what Wim the ex T&T coach was saying.  Our local based players have a ways to go to be able to be ready for international football and the best & quickest way for them to get there is to be devolped outside, especially in the absence of a proper training & development league and program locally.

People doh like to hear the truth especially when it involve "local vs foreign", never mind they conveniently ignore the fact that the "foreigners" are indeed LOCALS!

Senior National team Coaches at that level are NOT RESPONSIBLE for turning water into wine.  They are NOT RESPONSIBLE for turning average club players into competent international footballers.  Their responsibility is to select the BEST AVAILABLE TEAM and coach THEM to successfully compete in International football.  The BEST CHANCE of success is to consistently pick your BEST PLAYERS and those NORMALLY are the players who consistently play at a level that's higher than the rest.
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2008, 01:22:41 PM »
I said it as it is.

My input is that for football countries like Haiti, Trinidad, Honduras, Salvador, Costa Rica etc you need both foreign and local players. First of all, the foreign players are not always available. Secondly, if you want to have a foreign players only team, why bother having a national league and/or a national football development program?

A national team from a football country should have the best available players regardless of where they live or play football.

In the case of Haiti, the locals have carried the team to the level it reached last year.
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2008, 01:47:04 PM »
Marc Antoine Fortune, Nancy League 1

He denied he is Haitian and said he would rather play for his home country Fr. Guyana (many Fr. Guyanese players can also play for Haiti)

Yves Hadley Demarest, Vittoria Guimaraes (Portugal first division)

He has before expressed a desire to play for Haiti but he seems to be waiting for France or maybe Portugal since he has not yet been called by France. He's one of the finest midfielders in the Portuguese top division.


Reginald Goreux, Standard Liege (Belgium)

Talented young midfielder who has expressed a strong desire to play for Haiti. Lately, he seems to have changed his mind since he is currently considered one of the most promising young belgians in his adopted country.

There are others like Eudes, Jeroboam, Genevoix, and another talented youngster in Ireland name Nooitmeer Regilio.

The interesting thing is that even the ones who have played for us before don't seem too interested in working with Eloi who ironically was hired mostly for his 'european connections', not his coaching abilities ;D

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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2008, 01:48:34 PM »
I said it as it is.

My input is that for football countries like Haiti, Trinidad, Honduras, Salvador, Costa Rica etc you need both foreign and local players. First of all, the foreign players are not always available. Secondly, if you want to have a foreign players only team, why bother having a national league and/or a national football development program?

A national team from a football country should have the best available players regardless of where they live or play football.

In the case of Haiti, the locals have carried the team to the level it reached last year.

Aren't you tired of only going so far and no further?

In T&T, The Strike Squad went as far as they were capable of going.

So did all of our other teams.

Local based will only get you so far.  In our case this rounds, defeat at home by Bermuda.

As for your "what's the purpose of a local league" statement.  The primary purpose is to encourage competition amongst your players.  The most important reason is so that the best players will be identified and can pick up a foreign contract outside. 

Why?

Because you dont have the resources, facilities, and/or expertise to provide the development and training necessary for these players to succeeed at international level.  Harsh but doesn't make it any less true.  And this is not exclusive to Haiti but the entire Caribbean region.

If you want to be content not making the Hex year after year...continue with your majority local base.  But don't complain when the journey ends as it always has for you.
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Re: Avery John vs Haiti in Miami (02-Aug-2008)
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2008, 02:57:56 PM »
Like Haiti and we have somethin in common
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