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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on May 06, 2008, 06:35:11 AM
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Hey fellas, to many transfer news scattered all over the forum and its hard to keep track, so I created a thread for it...
Post all the transfers, speculations, rumours, etc etc. Here....
Cheers.
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From a earlier post:
Samuel joins up at St Johnstone
St Johnstone have signed former Dundee United striker Collin Samuel on a two-year contract.
The 26-year-old Trinidad and Tobago international arrives from Toronto FC in Major League Soccer, where he played for only one season.
Samuel joined Falkirk in 2001 before moving to Tannadice after two years, scoring 14 goals in 66 games.
He has also represented his country 17 times, and played at the World Cup in Germany in 2006.
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This seems strange.........he only played for TnT 17 times........he seems as if he has been around for so long.
And Birchall is ah just come and has played more games........interesting.
ah love it!!
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=532510&cc=5901
Villa's Berger frozen out after Barry comments
Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has told Patrik Berger he has played his last game for the club after recent remarks he made about Gareth Barry.
The Czech told fellow midfielder Barry to move to Liverpool if he gets the chance in the summer.
Berger said it was 'the opportunity of a lifetime. Liverpool don't come after you every year' and that 'if I was in Gareth's position I would go there tomorrow'.
The comments irked Villa boss O'Neill and he has subsequently spoken to Berger, who was expected to leave in the summer having made only eight Premier League starts in three seasons, and indicated he will not play any further part in his plans.
'I was really disappointed and surprised that Patrik, with all his experience of dealing with the press, would make such an inappropriate comment,' O'Neill said.
'The sad aspect of it is that we are paying Patrik's wages for him to recommend one of our players to another football club. It's ludicrous.
'I think Pat realises that now and he's apologised. He said he didn't mean a great deal of harm but the harm has been done and he won't be playing any part in proceedings from here on in.'
O'Neill confirmed last week that an offer had been received from Liverpool for Barry but admitted he was keen to keep hold of the player.
O'Neill said: 'Gareth Barry still has two years of his contract left to run and from my two years' experience of working with him, he's not one who would be wanting to break contracts lightly.
'I don't want to be in a position of letting really good players go. Gareth Barry is a really good player who still has two years left on his contract.
'I haven't discussed these things with him yet. At some stage obviously I will do. But the day before probably our most important game of the season is not the time to be discussing it.'
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Not ah player transfer ting, but ah football rumour nevertheless. Ah hear some talk dat HCL looking tuh bring ah Pro League side next year.
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Year after I think. It depends on how things go this year. i think they campaigning in the east zone first.
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Flamini to AC
Mellberg and Amauri to Juventus (amauri is virtually Juve's now)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/08/chelsea.premierleague
Chelsea put down marker in Sergio Ramos move
Real's right-back a summer transfer target for Grant Defender's arrival could herald changes at Bridge...
Chelsea's on-going pursuit of a new right-back has prompted serious interest in the Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos, with Roman Abramovich willing to spend heavily on a small number of high-quality targets to bolster the Londoners' first-team this summer.
Reports emanating from Spain yesterday claimed a deal worth in excess of £50m had already been struck for Ramos. While that suggestion was very premature and the figure quoted vastly inflated - no direct contact has been made between the clubs or with the player's agent, and the Londoners would not stretch to that price for a defender - it is a sign of Chelsea's ambition that they are considering moving for the Real full-back.
The 22-year-old features on a shortlist that is understood to include Sevilla's Daniel Alves, the attack-minded Brazilian defender who is a longstanding target at Stamford Bridge and came close to signing for them back in August, and the Bayern Munich defender Philipp Lahm as potential recruits to fill what has proved a problematic berth at right-back.
Abramovich and the club's scouting department, headed by Frank Arnesen, together with the manager Avram Grant intend to see which candidate offers best value for money. "We know our targets in the market," confirmed the manager last week. "We are working towards the players we want." Indeed, Ramos' representatives are aware of the Premier League club's interest and the Spain international could be persuaded to swap La Liga for England after growing frustrated at Real's apparent reluctance to offer him new terms at the Bernabéu.
Ramos, who began his career at Sevilla, became the third most expensive teenager in history when he moved to Real in 2005 for around £20m, signing an eight-year contract in the Spanish capital. He was initially employed as a defensive midfielder or centre-half but has since established himself at right-back, impressing both as an attacking threat down the flank and defensively to such an extent that the Milan veteran Paolo Maldini recently suggested he was fast developing into "the best defender in the world".
However, his progress has not been reflected in new personal terms, with the defender still locked into the long-term deal he signed upon arriving from Sevilla three years ago. In the interim, other stalwarts of the La Liga champions such as Iker Casillas, Guti and Raul have signed what Real deem to be "contracts for life" with Ruud van Nistelrooy also putting pen to paper on a new deal this season. That has prompted some resentment in Ramos' camp. Ramos would offer real pedigree with Grant unconvinced that Juliano Belletti, the Brazilian signed last summer from Barcelona, or Paulo Ferreira are the long-term answer at right-back.
Grant has had only one transfer window in which to mould this squad into something approaching his own, recruiting Nicolas Anelka from Bolton and the Serbian defender Branislav Ivanovic from Lokomotiv Moscow in January. The 23-year-old centre-half has yet to make a first-team appearance and has been recruited very much with next season in mind. Yet, while Grant would ideally only add around three or four top-class players to his current set-up ahead of next term, he is braced to lose squad players who have failed to make their mark at the club this season. Those would include Steve Sidwell, who is interesting Everton, Claudio Pizarro and the former Bolton centre-back Tal Ben Haim. Andriy Shevchenko is expected to rejoin his former club, Milan, after an unconvincing stay in English football.
There are also concerns that some first-team regulars, such as Didier Drogba and Ricardo Carvalho, could agitate for a transfer to rejoin Grant's predecessor at Stamford Bridge, Jose Mourinho, when the Portuguese ends his exile from the game in the summer and takes up the reins at another club.
Their departures would be resisted though, should Chelsea end up being stripped of their services, Abramovich would sanction lavish purchases to replace them
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Dennis Lawrence and Kevin Austin have been offered new one-year contracts by Swansea.
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Great news for Lawrence and Austin.....more so for Austin. De way he was riding pine I thought this was going to be his last season with Swansea!
Well done fellas!
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http://www.soccernews.com/crouch-put-up-for-sale-for-15million/1810/
Who will pick him up and for that price??
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http://www.soccernews.com/crouch-put-up-for-sale-for-15million/1810/
Who will pick him up and for that price??
He is a good goal scorer...Maybe Spurs(since we going and take Berba ;D )...Newcastle...City..Pompey
those 4 teams can afford him
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I will hate tuh see him leave... :-\but ah guess if someone have tuh go it would likely be him..
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that boy is shit
he cyah even make Tobago United bench
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Wey de garage is?
Ah need a hat/coat rack.
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Dennis Lawrence and Kevin Austin have been offered new one-year contracts by Swansea.
Amen
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Rumour has it there will be a deal involving Crouch and Gareth Barry between Liverpool and Villa...I would like Crouch to stay at Liverpool, but I don't blame him for wanting to move and get first team football. :beermug:
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no love for cheaters :devil:
(http://www.footballspectator.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Crouch%20Foul.jpg)
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Ent Babalawo.....sssttteeeuuppppssss......waste of thread....
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that boy is shit
he cyah even make Tobago United bench
nobody ent make ah bench for dem as yet ;D day does just stand around on de sidelines ;D
:-[ :-[
no love for cheaters :devil:
(http://www.footballspectator.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Crouch%20Foul.jpg)
Yeah, cut de rope and let de Four Car float away in de Raymoo :devil:
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Wenger rocked as Hleb quits
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/09/arsenal.internazionale
Arsène Wenger's desire to keep his Arsenal squad together encountered another setback yesterday when the agent of Alexander Hleb, the midfielder who has been courted by Internazionale, went public with the Belarusian's desire to leave at the end of the season.
Wenger has been enraged by what he sees as the tapping-up of Hleb by the Italian club and has threatened to report them to Fifa. But according to Hleb's agent, Nikolai Shpilevski, there is nothing the manager can do to prevent the player from moving on. "Alexander is preparing to make one of the most important moves of his life," Shpilevski told the Belarus paper Pressball. "He is leaving Arsenal even though they want to offer him a new long-term contract and better conditions. Only time will tell if leaving is the right decision, but there's no way back now. Everything will be cleared up in the next two weeks."
Hleb joined Arsenal from Stuttgart in July 2005 for £11.2m and showed only flickers of talent in his first two seasons, but this time out the 27-year-old has been one of the team's best performers. However, he met up with Claudio Vigorelli, the agent who brokers deals for Inter, in Milan on March 3, the night before Arsenal played Milan in the Champions League. When the meeting was exposed, Vigorelli's associate, Vincenzo Morabito, a leading agent who is well known to Premier League clubs, claimed that the pair had merely gone for an ice-cream. Morabito added: "We are sorry that Mr Wenger took it badly and complained because we have a good relationship with him."
Inter are prepared to offer Hleb a huge increase on his Arsenal salary, leaving Wenger, who only on Wednesday was clinging to the hope that the Belarusian could be talked round, to wring his hands.
Wenger has already seen Mathieu Flamini, the midfielder, join Milan on a Bosman transfer, having refused to sign a new contract at Arsenal, and there are doubts about Gilberto Silva's future. The Brazilian is under contract until 2009 but he does not want to be a fringe player next season as he has this time. Wenger will have talks with him after Arsenal's final match, at Sunderland on Sunday. The goalkeeper Jens Lehmann will also move because his contract, which expires at the end of the season, has not been renewed.
Wenger, though, did receive one piece of good news yesterday when it emerged that Nicklas Bendtner had ignored overtures from Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Werder Bremen to declare his continuing faith in Arsenal.
Bayern indicated via an intermediary that they were prepared to pay €10m for the striker and the other two Bundesliga clubs also made their interest known. "I have heard about these offers from Germany but Nicklas will stay at Arsenal," said Thomas Bendtner, his father. "The only way things could be different was if something unexpected should happen, such as him being moved totally outside of the team, but it's difficult to see that happening as he is playing right now."
Bendtner, 20, has made 39 appearances this season, 16 as a starter, and has scored nine goals. "I've always said that Arsenal is my club and that's where I want to play my football," he said. "When you look at my season and the way it has developed, I see no reason why I should want to change Arsenal with any other club."
The season, though, has again ended without a trophy and Petr Cech, the Chelsea goalkeeper who is chasing a double, believes that Arsenal's attractive football alone will not cause them to be remembered. "You need to get the trophies because in the end, if you take the last three years of Arsenal, I don't think in 10 years people will remember that between 2004 and 2008 they played brilliant football," he said. "No one will remember because they finished fourth and third. History recognises the winners
ARSENE WENGER was staring into an Arsenal abyss last night after Alex Hleb revealed he is the latest star to quit the club.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1143082.ece
Hleb, 27, will buy out the final two years of his contract for £3million and join Inter Milan in the summer.
He follows Mathieu Flamini who snubbed a new Gunners deal to sign for AC Milan on a free.
Boss Wenger also faces a fight to keep Cesc Fabregas after Real Madrid confirmed this week the Spanish star is their No 1 target.
Hleb’s agent, Nikolai Shpilevski, revealed the Belarus midfielder gave Wenger the news face- to-face yesterday.
Shpilevski said: “Alex is preparing to make one of the most important moves of his life.
“He is leaving even though Arsenal want to offer him a new long-term contract.
“Only time will tell if it is the right decision but there’s no way back now. Everything will be settled in the next two weeks.”
Wenger is furious Inter publicly announced they wanted Hleb — who cost Gunners £10m three years ago — and could report the Italians to FIFA.
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shithounds :devil:
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cyah blame them
I wouldn't want to stay on a broken shit side either
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players want trophies BOTTOM LINE
if barca offer cesc a deal its as good as done, he have catalan blood in he. no way going and play 4 madrid
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hmm..
that side crumbling fast.
they lose 2 of their best players for no money.
if they eh careful they could fall out of the top 4.
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Its the nature of the game, but we'll survive this too ;D
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Look like The top Italian sides looking to make a big push for the CL trophy, boy. Watch out, Europe! This off-season lookin' very interesting.
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cyah blame them
I wouldn't want to stay on a broken shit side either
I wouldn't call Arsenal a broken shit side, they're 4 points off the top of the table.
Barca (17 points away from Madrid) fans shouldn't be calling anyone shit, cause I see them get 4 goals yesterday, only a former Arsenal man get them a consolation.
Hleb might well be leaving, but the title of the thread is a little misleading (for now)
He's not gone YET, i'm sure as soon as its a done deal it'll be confirmed by Inter, not the guardian or sun. If you see the transfer rumors they are putting out already I wouldn't take them as gospel.
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players want trophies BOTTOM LINE
if barca offer cesc a deal its as good as done, he have catalan blood in he. no way going and play 4 madrid
Players want money, that is the bottom line.
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players want trophies BOTTOM LINE
if barca offer cesc a deal its as good as done, he have catalan blood in he. no way going and play 4 madrid
Players want money, that is the bottom line.
True. Its a sad state of football.
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the man just fed up being ah loser.
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Hopefully he understands that its ok to shoot at times.
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the man just fed up being ah loser.
Actually Hleb was crap for the first 2 years, this season he's been good but if he had some more shots at goal he would be a winner.
Either you want to help a team win, or you try to jump into a team where you win without doing anything.
I think part of his problem is the physical league. Wenger made a comment once about the state of Hleb's legs after every game.
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dem men seein the quality of Manu and Chelsea, and hearing about the money Liverpool plans to spend... so they know the battle at the top going to be real hard, and arsenal not making the significant steps forward to be a "great side", dem men doh want to be 3rd and slipping... they want the opportunity to be great, but see it's unlikely with a young ManU side that will only get better, and Chelsea with an owner who is richer than some small countries, and is wilingl to break the bank, and a Liverpool side who is capable of getting better. the road only going to get harder. so dem men riding out... taking the money/gettin better life style/and opportunity... seriously how much time C Ronaldo have tuh hut yuh up before yuh ride out lol arsenal still is a top side, but you know whart a mean...
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players want trophies BOTTOM LINE
if barca offer cesc a deal its as good as done, he have catalan blood in he. no way going and play 4 madrid
Players want money, that is the bottom line.
True. Its a sad state of football.
I think it's fantastic. Clubs often have no loyalty and don't care much about contracts when it suits them. Players must look out for themselves. I don't have to list the reasons why. Ease up on all this whining about money. Fans tend to have no perspective about players leaving for a bigger team and bigger paycheck..yet those same players arrived at Arsenal after being offered more than they were making at their previous clubs. Arsenal does the exact same thing you crying about..great when they come, shame when they leave. Be serious. You forget they left somewhere before the arrived at Emirates (Highbury). Doh get vex if there is a tier higher than Arsenal...same game all d big clubs playing. Some big clubs just willing to put up more..but the message is the same..come here to win things and play in the best league against and with the best players. That Arsenal not willing to sweeten the deal as much as others do is simply a financial decision..not a moral one
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players want trophies BOTTOM LINE
if barca offer cesc a deal its as good as done, he have catalan blood in he. no way going and play 4 madrid
Players want money, that is the bottom line.
True. Its a sad state of football.
I think it's fantastic. Clubs often have no loyalty and don't care much about contracts when it suits them. Players must look out for themselves. I don't have to list the reasons why. Ease up on all this whining about money. Fans tend to have no perspective about players leaving for a bigger team and bigger paycheck..yet those same players arrived at Arsenal after being offered more than they were making at their previous clubs. Arsenal does the exact same thing you crying about..great when they come, shame when they leave. Be serious. You forget they left somewhere before the arrived at Emirates (Highbury). Doh get vex if there is a tier higher than Arsenal...same game all d big clubs playing. Some big clubs just willing to put up more..but the message is the same..come here to win things and play in the best league against and with the best players. That Arsenal not willing to sweeten the deal as much as others do is simply a financial decision..not a moral one
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and on top of making smaller money at Arsenal, you know that once you creeping towards 30, they looking to get rid ah you because of their "policy." Yet, you must have blind loyality to them ???
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Forget all dat. Dat shithound Bendter still dey! Why he doh leave? Daiz de one I sooooo wanted to see move on. Argh! >:(
And ah say it already, ah doh care if he have to scour Europe, Africa or South America, Wenger NEEDS to bring a couple big name players this summer or it's all over before it even begins next season.
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If ah man buyng out he own contract how can his bottom line be money? if u consider yuhself one ah d best in d biz, trophies are one way of backing that up. i really believe in this case money is secondary
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Ricky Shakes released by Brentford (http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~1307727,00.html)
Ricky signed initially on a three-month contract following a pre-season trial and scored on his debut away at Bury in September, before having his contract extended for a further month, and then until the end of the 2007/08 season. He made a total of 25 league starts for the Bees, scoring four goals, and is released with immediate effect.
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Ricky Shakes released by Brentford (http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~1307727,00.html)
Ricky signed initially on a three-month contract following a pre-season trial and scored on his debut away at Bury in September, before having his contract extended for a further month, and then until the end of the 2007/08 season. He made a total of 25 league starts for the Bees, scoring four goals, and is released with immediate effect.
Dude ???
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If ah man buyng out he own contract how can his bottom line be money? if u consider yuhself one ah d best in d biz, trophies are one way of backing that up. i really believe in this case money is secondary
Freakazoid , if the man is buying out his contract, say for 3Million, Inter will give him a "signing on" bonus of 4 or 5 Mil, on top of his salary. So basically Inter is paying him back, with a lil bit extra.
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The man ent goin' no way!! ;D Fear the Gunners! :devil:
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Come nuh man fellahs what is with de wrong news?
Mods yuh cyah be merging ting in here until officially confirmed, that is for the gossip threads..
Wenger mystified by Hleb reports
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7392283.stm
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger insists there is nothing in reports that Alexander Hleb is leaving the club.
Hleb's agent has been quoted claiming the 27-year-old has rejected the offer of a new Gunners contract and is considering joining Inter Milan.
Hleb's departure would be a huge blow following Mathieu Flamini's exit.
But asked if there was any news on Hleb, Wenger told BBC Radio 5 Live: "No. We have not been in touch with any club about Alexander Hleb."
Flamini's decision to join AC Milan instead of signing a new contract at the Emirates Stadium sparked fears of an exodus after Arsenal's third consecutive season without silverware.
But Wenger sought to put the fans' minds at ease.
"We will have a competitive team next year to fight for the title, just like this year," he said. "I believe we are still together and we'll be stronger."
A report in Friday's newspapers claimed striker Emmanuel Adebayor would leave Arsenal unless he was rewarded with a pay rise.
Adebayor has dismissed those claims as "rubbish" while Wenger said he knew nothing about it.
The Arsenal boss said he would never be tempted to break his wage structure to keep a player.
"I personally have fought all my life for players to earn good money because I think they deserve it," he said.
"But I believe at every club you have to respect what you can spend and you shouldn't promise what you cannot afford.
"We want every player to earn good money but you have to respect the wage structure of the club and the financial potential of the club."
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Ricky Shakes released by Brentford (http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~1307727,00.html)
Ricky signed initially on a three-month contract following a pre-season trial and scored on his debut away at Bury in September, before having his contract extended for a further month, and then until the end of the 2007/08 season. He made a total of 25 league starts for the Bees, scoring four goals, and is released with immediate effect.
Too bad. Thought he was doing decent there. Must be change of management. I'm sure he could find another league 2 club with little problem, plus he have he passport - one handicap less.
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"What is unbelievable is I’m sitting here [at the press conference and it is] like we have killed all the players. Yet when I go to my office I have 220 calls from players who want to come in."
It has been suggested that Hleb may employ the new Webster clause and buy out his own contract.
"That is not as simple as it looks," retorted Wenger. "And you should not forget that what players can do to us we can do to them.
"The Webster clause is not easy, you can't come in next day and buy out. There is no rule that says what it is all about.
"You have to go to a tribunal and then to FIFA and if you don't agree with FIFA [you] have to go to ACAS. It takes a lot of months. And you can be banned for the whole period if it is not done in a proper way."
Arsenal.com
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Come nuh man fellahs what is with de wrong news?
Mods yuh cyah be merging ting in here until officially confirmed, that is for the gossip threads Right thread man ... rumours, gossip, speculation, confirmed ...;D ... Flex covered de waterfront ... there will be much uncertainty for many weeks ahead.
Wenger mystified by Hleb reports
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7392283.stm
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger insists there is nothing in reports that Alexander Hleb is leaving the club.
Hleb's agent has been quoted claiming the 27-year-old has rejected the offer of a new Gunners contract and is considering joining Inter Milan.
Hleb's departure would be a huge blow following Mathieu Flamini's exit.
But asked if there was any news on Hleb, Wenger told BBC Radio 5 Live: "No. We have not been in touch with any club about Alexander Hleb."
Flamini's decision to join AC Milan instead of signing a new contract at the Emirates Stadium sparked fears of an exodus after Arsenal's third consecutive season without silverware.
But Wenger sought to put the fans' minds at ease.
"We will have a competitive team next year to fight for the title, just like this year," he said. "I believe we are still together and we'll be stronger."
A report in Friday's newspapers claimed striker Emmanuel Adebayor would leave Arsenal unless he was rewarded with a pay rise.
Adebayor has dismissed those claims as "rubbish" while Wenger said he knew nothing about it.
The Arsenal boss said he would never be tempted to break his wage structure to keep a player.
"I personally have fought all my life for players to earn good money because I think they deserve it," he said.
"But I believe at every club you have to respect what you can spend and you shouldn't promise what you cannot afford.
"We want every player to earn good money but you have to respect the wage structure of the club and the financial potential of the club."
From the Telegraph ...
Alexander Hleb's departure from the club has apparently and quickly progressed from a mere rumour to something inevitable as the midfielder is reported to be on the verge of joining Inter, with the player's agent stating that Arsene Wenger can't stop him. The midfielder joined Arsenal in July 2005 from Stuttgart for £11.2 million. "Alexander is preparing to make one of the most important moves of his life. He is leaving Arsenal even though they want to offer him a new long-term contract and better conditions," Nikolai Shpilevski is quoted as saying in the Belarus press.
Despite already losing Mathieu Flamini, who completed his move to AC Milan on Monday and signed a four-year contract worth £60,000 a week after tax, it is not all doom and gloom in North London after Emmanuel Adebayor turned down Barcelona to stay with Arsenal. The forward was on Barca’s summer shopping list after scoring 30 goals this season but has vowed to remain with the club provided they meet his wage demands.
The club is considering a bid for £12 million rated Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani. The 23-year-old, who has won four Italy cap, is also attracting interest from Manchester United.
Cesc Fabregas has once again been linked with Real Madrid. However, two weeks ago, Fabregas said: "My future belongs to Arsenal, and it is the truth."
Lille midfielder Jean II Makoun is said to be a key contender to replace Flamini in the side. Makoun's agent said: "Makoun is on Arsenal's shortlist if Flamini leaves. I can tell you for sure that Jean II is appreciated by Arsene Wenger."
As for Hleb, his possible replacement may be Portsmouth midfielder Niko Kranjcar. The Croatian has been linked to the club by his father, who said: "Arsenal plays creative football and Wenger recognises this in Niko and he would be a logical replacement for Hleb. Wenger was interested in Niko in the Croatian League and he has tracked him for sometime." It would cost around £12 million to bring the Croatian to the Emirates.
Wenger is reportedly interested in signing Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins for around £15 million.
Along with Liverpool, the Gunners are also interested in Aston Villa captain Gareth Barry.
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Come nuh man fellahs what is with de wrong news?
Mods yuh cyah be merging ting in here until officially confirmed, that is for the gossip threads Right thread man ... rumours, gossip, speculation, confirmed ...;D ... Flex covered de waterfront ... there will be much uncertainty for many weeks ahead.
Wenger mystified by Hleb reports
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7392283.stm
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger insists there is nothing in reports that Alexander Hleb is leaving the club.
Hleb's agent has been quoted claiming the 27-year-old has rejected the offer of a new Gunners contract and is considering joining Inter Milan.
Hleb's departure would be a huge blow following Mathieu Flamini's exit.
But asked if there was any news on Hleb, Wenger told BBC Radio 5 Live: "No. We have not been in touch with any club about Alexander Hleb."
Flamini's decision to join AC Milan instead of signing a new contract at the Emirates Stadium sparked fears of an exodus after Arsenal's third consecutive season without silverware.
But Wenger sought to put the fans' minds at ease.
"We will have a competitive team next year to fight for the title, just like this year," he said. "I believe we are still together and we'll be stronger."
A report in Friday's newspapers claimed striker Emmanuel Adebayor would leave Arsenal unless he was rewarded with a pay rise.
Adebayor has dismissed those claims as "rubbish" while Wenger said he knew nothing about it.
The Arsenal boss said he would never be tempted to break his wage structure to keep a player.
"I personally have fought all my life for players to earn good money because I think they deserve it," he said.
"But I believe at every club you have to respect what you can spend and you shouldn't promise what you cannot afford.
"We want every player to earn good money but you have to respect the wage structure of the club and the financial potential of the club."
From the Telegraph ...
Alexander Hleb's departure from the club has apparently and quickly progressed from a mere rumour to something inevitable as the midfielder is reported to be on the verge of joining Inter, with the player's agent stating that Arsene Wenger can't stop him. The midfielder joined Arsenal in July 2005 from Stuttgart for £11.2 million. "Alexander is preparing to make one of the most important moves of his life. He is leaving Arsenal even though they want to offer him a new long-term contract and better conditions," Nikolai Shpilevski is quoted as saying in the Belarus press.
Despite already losing Mathieu Flamini, who completed his move to AC Milan on Monday and signed a four-year contract worth £60,000 a week after tax, it is not all doom and gloom in North London after Emmanuel Adebayor turned down Barcelona to stay with Arsenal. The forward was on Barca’s summer shopping list after scoring 30 goals this season but has vowed to remain with the club provided they meet his wage demands.
The club is considering a bid for £12 million rated Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani. The 23-year-old, who has won four Italy cap, is also attracting interest from Manchester United.
Cesc Fabregas has once again been linked with Real Madrid. However, two weeks ago, Fabregas said: "My future belongs to Arsenal, and it is the truth."
Lille midfielder Jean II Makoun is said to be a key contender to replace Flamini in the side. Makoun's agent said: "Makoun is on Arsenal's shortlist if Flamini leaves. I can tell you for sure that Jean II is appreciated by Arsene Wenger."
As for Hleb, his possible replacement may be Portsmouth midfielder Niko Kranjcar. The Croatian has been linked to the club by his father, who said: "Arsenal plays creative football and Wenger recognises this in Niko and he would be a logical replacement for Hleb. Wenger was interested in Niko in the Croatian League and he has tracked him for sometime." It would cost around £12 million to bring the Croatian to the Emirates.
Wenger is reportedly interested in signing Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins for around £15 million.
Along with Liverpool, the Gunners are also interested in Aston Villa captain Gareth Barry.
always a truth in a rumour :rotfl: :devil:
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how ppls could still honestly say that Crouch is shit??
all ya watch football? or thas a grudge from WC2006 still?
and hleb was on point last yr too in my opinion
first yr he was quiet...
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Ronaldo may consider Spanish move
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7404089.stm
Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo says he may consider his future at the club after next week's Champions League final.
The 23-year-old, who has scored 41 goals in a superb season, has been linked with a move to Real Madrid.
"I'm very happy here but let's see after the Champions League final what happens," Ronaldo told Spanish TV at United's training ground.
"I feel at home here. I've been here five years but the future, we'll see."
He added: "I've said a million times I'd like to play in Spain but dreaming is one thing, reality is another. I don't know."
Ronaldo won the Football Writers' Association award on Thursday to make it a clean sweep of the English player-of-the-year prizes this season.
Speaking in January, Manchester United chief executive David Gill told Football Focus: "There's no chance of us selling him, no way, whatever the bid.
"Cristiano signed a new contract last season to 2012 and we are not a selling club."
And selling the club's leading scorer would not sit well with last week's statement from Gill outlining plans to further improve the squad over the summer.
"We will certainly be in a position where, if we can improve it, we will," Gill told MUTV.
However, Real Madrid have made no secret of their desire to sign Ronaldo, with their coach Bernd Schuster describing Ronaldo as "the best player in the world" earlier this year.
On Wednesday, Miguel Angel Arroyo, Real Madrid's general director, said: "We have the solvency and the financial liquidity to be able to take on a signing of the magnitude of Cristiano Ronaldo.
"It would be economically beneficial due to the merchandising that would arise from it."
Real have signed big names from United in recent seasons, with David Beckham and Ruud van Nistelrooy both moving from Old Trafford to the Bernabeu.
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WTF...Jus so, anyway he not movin from MANU for a very long time :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: Keep dreaming :rotfl: :beermug:
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This one stood out to me!
Manchester City owner Thaksin Shinawatra has put the entire squad up for sale. (Daily Express) :o :o ???
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/default.stm
Marseille coach Eric Gerets says the French club would be willing to sell Samir Nasri, who has reportedly been attracting interest from Arsenal, as well ex-Liverpool striker Djibril Cisse if they get favourable offers. (Press Association, 1505 BST)
Jussi Jaaskelainen's agent warns Bolton there are a queue of clubs keen on signing the Finland goalkeeper. (Clubcall, 1517 BST).
AC Milan have made their final offer of £20m for Barcelona's Ronaldinho. Manchester City have offered £24m but the Brazilian only wants to join the Milan giants. (Italian sports paper Gazzetta dello Sport, BST 1105)
Derby midfielder Dave Jones is set to leave for £1m. (Clubcall, 1200 BST)
Barcelona have put Samuel Eto'o up for sale for £30m to finance the purchase of a big name for next season, but the striker does not want to leave. (Spanish sports paper Marca, BST 1100)
South Korea striker Dong Gook Lee is in negotiations with five Japanese teams after being released by Middlesbrough earlier this week. (Press Association, 1055 BST)
Newcastle could be ready to bid for Jonny Evans if the Manchester United prospect becomes available this summer. (The Journal, 1020 BST)
Manchester United defender Mikael Silvestre says he would be interested in a move to Bordeaux. (L'Equipe, 0955 BST)
Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy will fly to Barcelona on Sunday to try to sign striker Samuel Eto'o. (Spanish sports paper Marca, 0610 BST)
TRANSFER RUMOURS
Manchester United midfielder Cristiano Ronaldo has hinted he may reconsider his future at Old Trafford after the Champions League final. (various)
Chelsea defender Ricardo Carvalho also says that he is unsure whether he will be at the Blues next season. (various)
Dutch side Feyenoord are interested in signing Chelsea centre-back Tal Ben Haim. (Daily Express)
Manchester City owner Thaksin Shinawatra has put the entire squad up for sale. (Daily Express)
Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas has reassured fans he is not planning to join Real Madrid. (Daily Express)
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is eager to sign experienced French defender Lilian Thuram. (Daily Star)
Middlesbrough boss Gareth Southgate is keen to end Steve Sidwell's Chelsea nightmare by paying £6m for his services. (Daily Mirror)
Bristol City boss Gary Johnson will launch a £2m bid for Leroy Lita if his side win the Championship play-off. (Daily Mirror)
Wolves boss Mick McCarthy wants to bring Leicester striker Steve Howard to the club for £1m. (Daily Mirror)
West Ham have made a £5m offer for Manchester City defender Richard Dunne. (Daily Mirror)
Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill will offer Reading £4m for Republic of Ireland striker Kevin Doyle. (Mirror)
Portsmouth are in talks with Liverpool to bring £15m-rated Peter Crouch to Fratton Park. (The Times)
Cardiff are ready to sell teenage wonderkid Aaron Ramsey for the right price. (Daily Telegraph)
Nottingham Forest may make a £4m bid for Sheffield United striker James Beattie. (Daily Mail)
Liverpool keeper Scott Carson wants his club to lower their £10m price tag for him. (The Sun)
Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp will pick up £750,000 if he leads the club to FA Cup glory. (Daily Star)
Peter Taylor is being lined up to take over as the director of Newcastle United's academy. (The Guardian)
Liverpool's ownership saga is unlikely to be resolved until next season. (The Guardian)
Arsenal are set to reward Cesc Fabregas, Emmanuel Adebayor, Gael Clichy and Bacary Sagna with improved contracts. (Daily Telegraph)
Chelsea boss Avram Grant will be punished by the Football Association for his comments about referee Steve Bennett. (The Sun)
World Cup winner Zinedine Zidane will play in an exhibition match at the Sydney Football Stadium on 1 June, alongside former France team-mates Marcel Desailly and Robert Pires. (AFP)
Cardiff's 17-year-old star Aaron Ramsey says playing in the FA Cup final does not scare him, although there is one thing that does.
"I wouldn't like to come that close to tarantulas," he said on his Bebo website profile.
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WTF...Jus so, anyway he not movin from MANU for a very long time :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: Keep dreaming :rotfl: :beermug:
If Beckham could leave Utd, then anybody could go anywhere!!
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Ronaldo hints at leaving Man United
http://sportsnet.ca/soccer/2008/05/16/ronaldo_leaving/
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
MADRID, Spain -- Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo has hinted he could leave the club once the season is over.
Ronaldo said this week he would consider his future after United plays Chelsea in the Champions League final -- the club's final fixture of the season -- in Moscow on May 21.
"I'm very happy here, but let's see what happens after the Champions League. I feel at home, this is my home. I've been here for five years and so I feel very happy here. But no one knows the future," he told Spanish TV station Antena 3.
"I have said a million times that I would like to play in Spain but one thing is to dream and another is for it to happen. I don't know the club. I'm not going to lie to you and I know other clubs like my style of play. It's very important for me but I'm very happy here."
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon had repeatedly stated his interest in signing the Portugal winger over recent months although conceding the move would be nearly impossible given the transfer fee that would be demanded by United, where he remains under contract for another four years.
The Spanish champion would almost certainly need to break the world's transfer record to sign the 23-year-old. The current record was set in 2001 when Madrid signed Zinedine Zidane from Juventus for US$65 million.
Madrid spokesman and general director, Miguel Angel Arroyo, said this week that the club could afford a large outlay on Ronaldo, and would even make money through increased marketing revenues.
Ronaldo, who joined United from Sporting Lisbon, has scored 41 league and cup goals for United this season, helping the Red Devils win the Premier League for the second straight season and reach its third final in Europe's top club competition.
Earlier this week, Ronaldo told United's TV channel MUTV that he was happy to stay at the club.
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Dennis Lawrence and Kevin Austin have been offered new one-year contracts by Swansea.
Very good news.!
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ok im watching Sportsnet (canada)
and the ticker on the bottom just said that Ronaldo had agreed to join Madrid
Sorry thats all i got
can anyone confirm or deny this?
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ok im watching Sportsnet (canada)
and the ticker on the bottom just said that Ronaldo had agreed to join Madrid
Sorry thats all i got
can anyone confirm or deny this?
I will not be surprised at all, cuz de yute had a monster season, he helped Man U win de EPL and de Champions league, so why not move on tuh some new challenges. All de Man U fans here, if dat is true, all yuh better start tuh scratch all yuh head. Cuz his talent and work rate will not be replaced, unless is Dinho when he is back to his best.
De members here dat know dey ball, you all should not be 2 surprised either, cuz dat deal wid RM probably was close to be completed, wid just his medical at RM and some small things to finalise after de game yesterday. Obviously it is not de way business is professional conducted, fuh dem tuh announce anything before de game yesterday, tuh cause any distractions in de camp and problems wid some ah dem alcoholic supporters in England. I wud love to see him do dem fancy foot works in Italy doh, wid dem defenders over dey, dat doh leave any prisoners at all. However, I'm not one of his fans, but I enjoy looking at him play, so good luck Mr.Ronaldo. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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so soon? he probably still drunk from last nite and having a orgy with nani, anderson and a few high priced escorts.
u know how he is roll.
anyhow, peep dis.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7414182.stm
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If it happens..it happens... If he wants to be a total ass and go to a shithole like Madrid he can if he would like... but last night he said he will love to stay .... i honestly think he just wants more money..and it seems United are going to offer him a bigger contract within the next week...
Ronaldo: I'd love to stay
CRISTIANO Ronaldo said he would 'love' to stay at Old Trafford after United's dramatic Champions League victory against Chelsea in Moscow.
However, the Portuguese star, a reported target for Spanish giants Real Madrid, stopped short of promising anything to the expectant Reds fans.
He said: "I have played with these lads for five years and to win the Premier League and the Champions League is a great achievement.
"It is big for the club and the players. It is a young team and we have every chance to win the Premier League and Champions League again next year.
"We have a great chance to do it again and all the lads believe that. I believe it. We have a good team and a good spirit. We will try to do this again.
"We have won the most important trophies this season and next season I want it again.
"I would love to stay with this club. I love the people. The players are fantastic. The atmosphere at Old Trafford is unbelievable. All the staff are great. I want to stay.
"I feel very happy in the club. I win trophies. The people are friendly; the support is amazing. Everything is very good.
"The English people have been good to me since the World Cup in 2006 and I love it."
But Ronaldo, who scored his 42nd goal of a sensational personal campaign and ended the Champions League number one scorer with eight goals, added: "I don’t promise nothing, I don’t promise nothing to my mum, I don’t promise nothing to the supporters.
“I want to stay, but the future... no-one knows. I want to stay. We are going to see in the next two weeks, I don’t say I make a decision.”
Ronaldo is just one year into a five-year contract at United.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1050802_ronaldo_id_love_to_stay
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when moms speaks ronaldo has 2 listen
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im not sure i buying this due to the fact its sportsnet canada and nothing else is up on the net
but somebody tell me something, i never really followed the way the football contracts work
if the man is signed for another 4 years, how can he just leave and sign with a next team before that contract done?
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notice that everyone who saying that he cant get it any better than at Man United are english.
Is just ah kinda ignorance and small-mindedness as to the quality of football outside of the EPL.
He already reach the pinnacle, winning all he could at Man Utd. If the man aspiring for something different then so be it. Let him go and prove himself in another league on another level. Is not every day ah man want to be advantaging ah Derby, Bolton and Fulham. Let him find pastures new.
so soon? he probably still drunk from last nite and having a orgy with nani, anderson and a few high priced escorts.
u know how he is roll.
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http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=5993282
Ronaldo: I'm staying
On a night of European glory, Cristiano Ronaldo gave Reds fans even more reason to celebrate when he quashed rumours that he could join Real Madrid this summer by pledging his future to United.
When asked by a TV reporter whether he would be leaving the club with which he has already achieved so much in his short career, Ronaldo gave the emphatic reply all Reds fans wanted to hear.
“No, no, no. I’m going to stay,” he said.
It was a fitting end to an emotional night for the Portuguese winger who opened the scoring in the 26th minute, but then missed his spot-kick in the dramatic penalty shoot-out.
“When I missed the penalty, I thought we were going to lose,” he said.
“I played well in the game and I scored a goal, but I missed the penalty. I thought it was going to be the worst day of my life.
“But the lads did their jobs. They believed they were going to score, and they scored. Penalties is a lottery, you never know who is going to win, but I think we deserve to win because we played better in the game.
“It means everything to me because we won both trophies, the Champions League and the League, so I feel very happy. It is one of the most happy days of my life. I feel very, very proud.”
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I find it hard to belive that Sportnet in Canada will find out accurate information before BBC and Skysports...Its like trusting The Sun newspaper
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http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=5993282
Ronaldo: I'm staying
On a night of European glory, Cristiano Ronaldo gave Reds fans even more reason to celebrate when he quashed rumours that he could join Real Madrid this summer by pledging his future to United.
When asked by a TV reporter whether he would be leaving the club with which he has already achieved so much in his short career, Ronaldo gave the emphatic reply all Reds fans wanted to hear.
“No, no, no. I’m going to stay,” he said.
It was a fitting end to an emotional night for the Portuguese winger who opened the scoring in the 26th minute, but then missed his spot-kick in the dramatic penalty shoot-out.
“When I missed the penalty, I thought we were going to lose,” he said.
“I played well in the game and I scored a goal, but I missed the penalty. I thought it was going to be the worst day of my life.
“But the lads did their jobs. They believed they were going to score, and they scored. Penalties is a lottery, you never know who is going to win, but I think we deserve to win because we played better in the game.
“It means everything to me because we won both trophies, the Champions League and the League, so I feel very happy. It is one of the most happy days of my life. I feel very, very proud.”
how come this report omits the "i don't know.. i don't promise" part of the interview??
oh.... its from man utd website. my bad.
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im not sure i buying this due to the fact its sportsnet canada and nothing else is up on the net
but somebody tell me something, i never really followed the way the football contracts work
if the man is signed for another 4 years, how can he just leave and sign with a next team before that contract done?
He can't just ups and leave in that situation. If he is under contract the teams have to agree on the sale of the player first. Then once they've agreed a fee it's up to the player to decide if he wants to go or not. If he decides he's going to go he then has to agree on personal terms (length of contract, salary, etc.) with the new team (the contract isn't automatically transferred like in north american sports). If they can't come to an agreement then the deal is cancelled and he goes back to the original team.
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im not sure i buying this due to the fact its sportsnet canada and nothing else is up on the net
but somebody tell me something, i never really followed the way the football contracts work
if the man is signed for another 4 years, how can he just leave and sign with a next team before that contract done?
He can't just ups and leave in that situation. If he is under contract the teams have to agree on the sale of the player first. Then once they've agreed a fee it's up to the player to decide if he wants to go or not. If he decides he's going to go he then has to agree on personal terms (length of contract, salary, etc.) with the new team (the contract isn't automatically transferred like in north american sports). If they can't come to an agreement then the deal is cancelled and he goes back to the original team.
right thats what i thought. thanks
so really if united dont want him to go he ent going, correct?
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This is probably just speculation because he turned around last night and said that he will not commit to United for next season as yet.
Omar is right Ronaldo has won every title available to him in England (FA Cup, League Cup, Premiership, Champions League) at age 22. That is phenomenal by any standard.
Also the appeal of a club like Madrid to a player like Ronaldo is no surprise. Spain and Italy regularly have the best player in the World. If Ronaldo was playing in Spain and Italy there would be no debate about whether he is the World's best as there is because he plays in England for Manchester United. The big two in Italy and Spain are just more glamourous by nature and because of their history.
What I would say though is that he would not find another team that will cater to his unique talents like an Alex Ferguson team. Ferguson loves wingers and always gives them the freedom and tools to shine. Not so much in Spain or Italy where the most creative position is the player playing just behind the striker/s.
I think he is good enough to change his game and prosper in that kind of role or even as a striker becuase his touches are that good and he is an intelligent creative player but he will not be the free-wheeling phenomenal force that he is now, attacking defences with pace and power. SO from the aspect of taking a challenge to improve, test or just prove his greatness against all comers then a move abroad would make plenty sense.
I have no doubt that his agent wants him to go. I am sure his agent would be happy if he transfers every season. If he really wants to go, good luck to him as long as Madird pay they money 70 - 80 M pounds will go a long way to help United. Two top strikers, a right back and a wing replacement will be very welcome and would make the team deeper and maybe even more versatile.
That being said it would be sad to see him go. Would love to see him at least, play out his contract and at best his career at United.
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how come this report omits the "i don't know.. i don't promise" part of the interview??
oh.... its from man utd website. my bad.
He made two separate statements last night.
Right after the game he said he was not going anywhere and later on he said he cannot make any promises.
im not sure i buying this due to the fact its sportsnet canada and nothing else is up on the net
but somebody tell me something, i never really followed the way the football contracts work
if the man is signed for another 4 years, how can he just leave and sign with a next team before that contract done?
He can't just ups and leave in that situation. If he is under contract the teams have to agree on the sale of the player first. Then once they've agreed a fee it's up to the player to decide if he wants to go or not. If he decides he's going to go he then has to agree on personal terms (length of contract, salary, etc.) with the new team (the contract isn't automatically transferred like in north american sports). If they can't come to an agreement then the deal is cancelled and he goes back to the original team.
right thats what i thought. thanks
so really if united dont want him to go he ent going, correct?
If he wants to go he is gone, despite the fact that he is tied up for th enext 4 years. It is too distracting to keep a player when there is constant speculation or when he wants to go. Just look at recent histoiry of players who have "made up their mind", Saha, Gallas, Essien
It just becomes a matter of "how much" he will go for. In this respect United is in a good position as they genuinely do not want him to go and do not need the money (as opposed to Beckham and Ruud who they were looking for a buyer for).
Will be an interesting summer.
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If it happens..it happens... If he wants to be a total ass and go to a shithole like Madrid he can if he would like... but last night he said he will love to stay ....
That 'shithole' has won more honors than any other club in Europe breds so catch yuhself.
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If it happens..it happens... If he wants to be a total ass and go to a shithole like Madrid he can if he would like... but last night he said he will love to stay ....
That 'shithole' has won more honors than any other club in Europe breds so catch yuhself.
He plays in present time... Who gives a f**k what they won in the 50's... Also it was just a heat of the moment post..i have respect for Madrid..Ruud plays there :D
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If it happens..it happens... If he wants to be a total ass and go to a shithole like Madrid he can if he would like... but last night he said he will love to stay ....
That 'shithole' has won more honors than any other club in Europe breds so catch yuhself.
Real is shit, they ain't winning nothing in the near future :devil:
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The truth is.. contracts are not worth the paper they're written on.
The clubs no longer have the power to 'force' a player to honour his contract if he wants to move on.
And its funny how many different slants on one issue you can get depending on where you read your news. For the record, your club website is NOT a reputable, objective site. Also goal.com and the tabloids are to be kept away from if you're searching for the truth.
And a hint... The betting odds can give you a good indicator of the veracity of a rumor. Remember betting companies have their inside sources to crucial information to determine how they set their odds..
The odds on Ronaldo starting at Real Madrid next season are 4/1.
Ronaldo can't guarantee future
United winger will see how things pan out in the next fortnight
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3596295,00.html
Ronaldo: No promises
Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has failed to outright dispel rumours of an exit from Old Trafford.
Ronaldo added to his sky-high reputation on Wednesday evening as he netted an excellent header in United's UEFA Champions League success over Chelsea.
The Portugal international has been linked with a move away from United, with Real Madrid reportedly lining up a record-breaking £100million bid.
And, despite chief executive David Gill insisting Ronaldo will not be leaving in the summer on Wednesday, the 23-year-old has said he will contemplate his future over the next fortnight.
"I don't promise anything, I don't promise anything to my mum, I don't promise anything to the supporters," he said.
"I want to stay, but the future... no-one knows. I want to stay. We are going to see in the next two weeks, I don't say I make a decision."
Calderon
Meanwhile, Real president Ramon Calderon has refused give up his hunt for the world-class forward.
"Players play where they want to. If a player decides to leave a club then he cannot be stopped, the days of player enslavement have gone. Nobody can prevent them from changing clubs," he said.
"(Ronaldo) is an extraordinary player. If he makes a firm decision that there is nobody that can keep him back.
"I have already said that providing Manchester United want to sell, we will ask about him, and if he wants to come and we can pay what is being asked."
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im not sure i buying this due to the fact its sportsnet canada and nothing else is up on the net
but somebody tell me something, i never really followed the way the football contracts work
if the man is signed for another 4 years, how can he just leave and sign with a next team before that contract done?
He can't just ups and leave in that situation. If he is under contract the teams have to agree on the sale of the player first. Then once they've agreed a fee it's up to the player to decide if he wants to go or not. If he decides he's going to go he then has to agree on personal terms (length of contract, salary, etc.) with the new team (the contract isn't automatically transferred like in north american sports). If they can't come to an agreement then the deal is cancelled and he goes back to the original team.
right thats what i thought. thanks
so really if united dont want him to go he ent going, correct?
Technically, yes that's correct. In practice, not exactly. Sometimes if the purchasing team puts enough pressure then the team that has the player can be forced into accepting a deal. For example: Aston Villa didn't want to sell Yorke to ManU.
Typically, the purchasing team will make a big money bid public (leh we say 90millon pounds in dis case), so the fans start saying "fuh dat money, sell him and buy 3 or 4 cheaper replacements" and the player may look at it and say "if dey willing to pay dat much I could get a good raise" and he may look at Madrid's achievements and feel "well if I could make mih name dey I go be legend" and he may then tell team mgmnt something like "I eh playing fuh allyuh no more" or perhaps just start to grumble and make noise, so the team eventually decides to just get rid of him to before team morale turn sour. Doesn't always work but sometimes happens.
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The truth is.. contracts are not worth the paper they're written on.
The clubs no longer have the power to 'force' a player to honour his contract if he wants to move on.
And its funny how many different slants on one issue you can get depending on where you read your news. For the record, your club website is NOT a reputable, objective site. Also goal.com and the tabloids are to be kept away from if you're searching for the truth.
And a hint... The betting odds can give you a good indicator of the veracity of a rumor. Remember betting companies have their inside sources to crucial information to determine how they set their odds..
The odds on Ronaldo starting at Real Madrid next season are 4/1.
Ronaldo can't guarantee future
United winger will see how things pan out in the next fortnight
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3596295,00.html
Ronaldo: No promises
Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has failed to outright dispel rumours of an exit from Old Trafford.
Ronaldo added to his sky-high reputation on Wednesday evening as he netted an excellent header in United's UEFA Champions League success over Chelsea.
The Portugal international has been linked with a move away from United, with Real Madrid reportedly lining up a record-breaking £100million bid.
And, despite chief executive David Gill insisting Ronaldo will not be leaving in the summer on Wednesday, the 23-year-old has said he will contemplate his future over the next fortnight.
"I don't promise anything, I don't promise anything to my mum, I don't promise anything to the supporters," he said.
"I want to stay, but the future... no-one knows. I want to stay. We are going to see in the next two weeks, I don't say I make a decision."
Calderon
Meanwhile, Real president Ramon Calderon has refused give up his hunt for the world-class forward.
"Players play where they want to. If a player decides to leave a club then he cannot be stopped, the days of player enslavement have gone. Nobody can prevent them from changing clubs," he said.
"(Ronaldo) is an extraordinary player. If he makes a firm decision that there is nobody that can keep him back.
"I have already said that providing Manchester United want to sell, we will ask about him, and if he wants to come and we can pay what is being asked."
As i said if he goes..good luck to CR7.. i wish him the best... i honestly think when Fergie and Giggs and the other leaders sit him down and reassure him he is a the right club he will stay
But Calderon and Schuster are crossing the line in recent weeks...Day light tapping up... That is disrespectful
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two things will happen if he leave, success might be difficult to come by for him in a new club and two Fergie buys another star boy.
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ok i get allyuh
its like a NHL player holding out and demanding a trade, even under contract like pronger.
sorry i have to equate it to ice hockey :-[
being one of the few who dont have one specific team that i follow, ive never really paid attention to contracts in football, teams moves in the summer and how the transfers work.
i just always assumed they were out of contract players or the team was looking to sell them
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ice hockey isnt ah sport
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ice hockey isnt ah sport
:rotfl: :rotfl: :devil:
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ice hockey isnt ah sport
well ah was watching todays edition of "hockey central" when i saw the news on ronaldo on the ticker :rotfl:
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Villarreal signs Edmilson from Barcelona
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8169720/Villarreal-signs-Edmilson-from-Barcelona
VILLARREAL, Spain (AP) - Villarreal has signed Brazilian midfielder Edmilson from FC Barcelona on a two-year contract.
Edmilson, who has played 40 times for Brazil, won two Spanish league titles and the 2006 Champions League in four years with Barcelona.
Villarreal finished runner-up to Real Madrid this season, the club's best placing in its history. It will present Edmilson at a news conference on Monday.
The small-town team is looking for reinforcements to play next season in the Champions League, in which it reached the semifinals in 2006.
Edmilson, who won the 2002 World Cup with Brazil, began his career with Sao Paulo and left for Lyon after seven years. With the French club, he won three league titles.
The 31-year-old Edmilson is the first of several players expected to leave Barcelona, which is undergoing a revamp after a disappointing season in which it finished third in the league and was knocked out in the Champions League semifinals by eventual winner Manchester United.
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two things will happen if he leave, success might be difficult to come by for him in a new club and two Fergie buys another star boy.
IF he wants to go, sell him......no need for any distraction in d dressing room....instead of Real giving us 100mil for him, give us 75 and the rights to Quaresma......
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Seydou Keita has completed his widely expected transfer from Sevilla to Barcelona after the Catalan club met his buy-out clause to make him their first signing of the season.
Both the Blaugrana and the Andalucian outfit announced the deal on their official websites following the player's decision to send a fax cancelling his employment contract.
That move meant that Barça will now have to pay €14m as part of the terms of the clause in his contract only a year after he signed for Sevilla for €4m from Lens.
Keita has put pen-to-paper on a four-year contract at the club's offices in Barcelona and the deal sees his new buy-out stand at a staggering €90m.
During his one season at Sevilla, the 28-year-old midfielder enforcer impressed alongside Christian Poulsen, who Bará were also rumoured to be watching, and that has earned him a high profile move.
After starting out with a youth club in his native Mali, Keita joined Olympique Marseille in 1997 and then moved on to Lorient after just one season l'OM's first team.
A two-year stint Stade du Moustoir followed before he moved to Lens in 2002 and enjoyed a very successful five-year stay where he became captain of Les Sang et Or
Keita's arrival at Barça should now spell the end of Deco's time at Camp Nou amid reports that he is set to move to Inter to rejoin his former coach José Mournho at the San Siro.
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Nice. Heard they also got Pique from Man U.
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Nice. Heard they also got Pique from Man U.
Last Reports claimed Pique was in advanced stages with them... I could understand it though...He cant break through with Rio and Vidic and then Brown and Silvestre as Cover....and Utd may buy a defender in the Summer.... I wish he could go on loan because he is a great talent..
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recipe for disaster ...no named coach yet they buying players ...what they going to do when a new coach is named ...here is your team ? That is why Man united just keeps on winning ....the coach brings in the players ...not the owners and investors. Barca making the same mistakes others have made .....
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recipe for disaster ...no named coach yet they buying players ...what they going to do when a new coach is named ...here is your team ? That is why Man united just keeps on winning ....the coach brings in the players ...not the owners and investors. Barca making the same mistakes others have made .....
I guess you doh know that pepe guardiola was confirmed as coach right?
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Nice. Heard they also got Pique from Man U.
We need a proper goal keeper. Valdes does lose he mind on the pitch too often. And on crosses, steups He is almost as bad as a 18 year old Casillas.
I hearing talk of Colocinni in the back . I eh really too keen on that. I think we need more pace at the back. If we do get him I guess he will be useful because he is very solid player.
If they let Toure go they stupid.
If they let Eto'o go they damn stupid. He starting on my World 11 anyday.
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Nice. Heard they also got Pique from Man U.
We need a proper goal keeper. Valdes does lose he mind on the pitch too often. And on crosses, steups He is almost as bad as a 18 year old Casillas.
I hearing talk of Colocinni in the back . I eh really too keen on that. I think we need more pace at the back. If we do get him I guess he will be useful because he is very solid player.
If they let Toure go they stupid.
If they let Eto'o go they damn stupid. He starting on my World 11 anyday.
Doubt they go let go Toure....he was the best money spent last season. Last i heard he and milito had surgery...dey go be out bout 6 to 9 months....i go hadda double check it doh but i do kno dey most likely eh go be available for the start of the season. Valdez doh inconsistent....may not be replaced immediately...but a keeper that young that can give him some competition would be nice. Problem is to find such.
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Letting Pique go may prove to be a great mistake by Man U
He's already better than either of Silvestre or Brown IMO and he's much younger.
Maybe the price Barca is paying is too good to refuse.
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Nice to see Barca working on things..........Valdés eh goin' a dam place! He young and is still improving (with his inclusion into the national team sure to expedite his improvement.)........and he's a Catalan. Allyuh need to leave my 'keeper alone eh! ;D
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Seydou Keita’s talent was obvious from a very early age, and he won the Golden Ball as best player in the under-20s World Cup in 1999 in Nigeria. Mali finished third in a tournament won by a Spain team featuring Xavi Hernánde
eydou Keita is Barça’s first signing for the 2008-09 season. The Mali player will reinforce the side’s midfield.
Keita has been signed from Sevilla FC and combines physical strength with technical quality and tactical awareness. He is the first of the reinforcements for Barça’s first team for next season.
8 years in France
Barça’s new player first made his name in European football in the French League. At the start of the 1999-2000 season he signed for Olympique de Marseille where he spent a not very successful year. He then had two years at Lorient where he won the French Cup before moving on to Lens for 5 campaigns between 2002-03 and 2006-07. His last season there was his best as he scored 11 goals in 37 games and was seen as the second best player in the French first division after Florent Malouda.
A year in Seville
celebraciones_1.jpgKeita already knows a lot about Spanish football as, having been signed from Lens, he played in 31 out of Seville’s 38 League matches last season. He was in the starting XI on 29 occasions and scored 4 goals, demonstrating the quality of his long-range shooting.
With Mali
The new FC Barcelona player has been in Mali’s national team since 2003. He played with “The Eagles” in the African Cup of Nations last January and February when, in spite of being one of the favourites, the side went out in the first roun
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http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/05/23/Prem-Fergie-slams-Real/ Fergie slams immoral madrid.
trying to hold on to his superstar 4 dear life and trying to slam madrid in the face with the petty comparison to barca, cheap shot and not going to help yuh situation
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According to Portuguese sports daily A Bola, José Mourinho and Inter Milan have come to an agreement for the former Chelsea man to replace Roberto Mancini as coach.
It was reported in the Italian press earlier Monday that Mourinho had made up his mind that he wanted the job at Inter, but had issued club president Massimo Moratti a deadline of midnight to make or break the deal.
Moratti, who was said to be having second thoughts about whether or not to keep Mancini on, has now, according to A Bola, decided that Mourinho is indeed his man.
The 45-year-old has apparently been handed a three-year contract at San Siro, and will earn $14 million per season.
As part of the deal, Mourinho will immediately be allowed to sign former players Frank Lampard from Chelsea and Deco from Barcelona, while Luís Figo will be handed a one-year extension to his current contract that runs out next month.
The Mancini era, which yielded three successive Scudetti, appears now to be over, although it must be noted that there is still no official confirmation.
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recipe for disaster ...no named coach yet they buying players ...what they going to do when a new coach is named ...here is your team ? That is why Man united just keeps on winning ....the coach brings in the players ...not the owners and investors. Barca making the same mistakes others have made .....
I guess you doh know that pepe guardiola was confirmed as coach right?
..I will put this one down to lack of sleep ..... must have had it in my mind a long time ago. my mistake !
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recipe for disaster ...no named coach yet they buying players ...what they going to do when a new coach is named ...here is your team ?
That's how it is always done in Spain and Italy though. The club president buys the players, not the coaches. That is why they are called coaches and trainers in those countries and called managers in England.
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Wolves in bid for Yorke. ?
If the rumour mill is to be believed, and it rarely is, Mick McCarthy is making unlikely overtures to former Villa and Man United striker Dwight Yorke.
Now in the twilight of his career, the former hitman is now more likely to be found acting as a midfield anchor than a goal machine, and is keen to secure himself a long term deal not forthcomong from his current club Sunderland.
It's tricky to weigh this one up. It's so unlikely, it may just be true.
He isn't young, and it's debatable whether he's still hungry after his medal haul at United and his stint in Australia. There are also now suggestions Wolves are battling it out with Reading and Derby for Sunderland's Dwight Yorke.
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Pique agrees return to Barcelona
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7410111.stm
Gerard Pique's United contract expires next summer
Barcelona will sign Manchester United's Gerard Pique after the defender agreed a four-year deal at the Nou Camp.
The 21-year-old left the Catalan giants to join United as a trainee in 2004, but has never been a regular.
Pique's signing is part of a major revamp of the squad at Barcelona under new coach Josep Guardiola.
He made 13 appearances for United last season, scoring twice, in the Champions League win over Dynamo Kiev in November and the 1-1 draw at Roma in December.
Pique initially signed a five-year deal at Old Trafford and his contract was due to expire next summer.
He has always been regarded as an outstanding youngster, but he has been unable to break up the established central defensive partnership of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic.
Barcelona are set for a major reshuffle this summer, with president Joan Laporta keen for the club to improve on this season's third place finish in La Liga.
Frank Rijkaard has already been replaced as manager by Guardiola, while Brazilian playmaker Ronaldinho and striker Samuel Eto'o could also be on their way out of the club.
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http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/05/23/Prem-Fergie-slams-Real/ Fergie slams immoral madrid.
trying to hold on to his superstar 4 dear life and trying to slam madrid in the face with the petty comparison to barca, cheap shot and not going to help yuh situation
.......read some of those postings.......seems no matter what part of the globe they're from, them manUre fans does real have issues boy. :rotfl:
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http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/05/23/Prem-Fergie-slams-Real/ Fergie slams immoral madrid.
trying to hold on to his superstar 4 dear life and trying to slam madrid in the face with the petty comparison to barca, cheap shot and not going to help yuh situation
.......read some of those postings.......seems no matter what part of the globe they're from, them manUre fans does real have issues boy. :rotfl:
Chow, if is one thing yuh go learn..
Man Utd fans when under pressure does always lecture bout "their club".
Arsenal fans when under pressure does always lecture bout "their style".
Liverpool fans when under pressure does always lecture bout "their history".
all pointless if you ask me.
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http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/05/23/Prem-Fergie-slams-Real/ Fergie slams immoral madrid.
trying to hold on to his superstar 4 dear life and trying to slam madrid in the face with the petty comparison to barca, cheap shot and not going to help yuh situation
.......read some of those postings.......seems no matter what part of the globe they're from, them manUre fans does real have issues boy. :rotfl:
Chow, if is one thing yuh go learn..
Man Utd fans when under pressure does always lecture bout "their club".
Arsenal fans when under pressure does always lecture bout "their style".
Liverpool fans when under pressure does always lecture bout "their history".
all pointless if you ask me.
Omar, yuh eh lie. As I was informed the other day:
liverpool playing in their past and ass-n'-all playin on their future and fergie....oops, ah mean, manure is a temple ;D But I eh vex wit dem. Everybody entitled to have issues.
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Roy Keane linked to Chelsea job.
By Charlie Caroe.
Sunderland manager Roy Keane is a candidate for the vacant managerial position at Stamford Bridge, according to reports this morning.
Speaking to The Independent, Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn revealed that it is not a shock that the Irishman's name has made the Chelsea shortlist.
Ruling the roost: Roy Keane's managerial style is reported to have caught the eye of the Chelsea board
Quinn said: "I'm not overly surprised that Roy has been linked.
"But rather than fret about it, I'd take it as a positive that we must be doing something right as a football club.
"Roy is still under contract at Sunderland for next season and I'm pretty happy at this stage that he'll be with us for a long time to come."
Keane, 36, is in his first managerial role at the Stadium of Light and led Sunderland to the top of the Championship in his first season, securing a place in the Premier League as a result.
The North-east side survived their first seasons in English football's top flight, and Keane had been suggested as a possible replacement for Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford.
Keane spent twelve years at Manchester United, where he won seven Premier League titles, four FA Cups and the Champions League in 1999, before a move to Celtic and eventual retirement from playing.
The Sunderland manager could fit the Chelsea hierarchy's desire for a strong manager to replace the recently-sacked Avram Grant, but his is one more name to add to those of Roberto Mancini, Frank Rijkaard and Didier Deschamps on the Stamford Bridge shortlist.
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Premier League Transfer Talk
By Telegraph staff.
All the latest Premiership transfer news and reports, updated throughout the day.
TRANSFER ROUND UP:
Arsenal
Latest News:
Alexander Hleb is now being linked with Real Madrid, as well as Inter Milan and Barcelona, after Real recently learnt of his availability.
Arsenal are being linked with a £20m move for Real Mallorca striker Dani Guiza, 27, and Real Madrid midfielder Ruben de la Red, 22, while Arsene Wenger has said Samir Nasri could complete his £11 million move to the Emirates in the next week. The Gunners are also monitoring Saint Etienne midfielder Blaise Matuidi.
17-year-old Laval midfielder Francis Coquelin has reportedly become the first summer newcomer at the Emirates on a free transfer. Wenger had the chance to view Coquelin when he trained with Arsenal earlier during the season.
Meanwhile, Sporting Lisbon's Miguel Veloso could be drafted in to replace Mathieu Flamini. Roma's £12 million-rated midfielder Alberto Aquilani is alternatively being tipped to come in to replace the departed midfielder, according to the player's agent, although the Aquilani says he is not planning to move. Another potential newcomer could be Fiorentina keeper Sebastian Frey, one option to replace the outgoing Jens Lehmann.
Aston Villa
Latest News:
Villa have scrapped plans to sign Scott Carson from Liverpool after failing to agree an appropriate fee, and are now interested in Man Utd goalkeeper Ben Foster instead. Manchester City's £4m-rated defender Richard Dunne is also on the wish-list.
Villa are being linked with a move for 18-year-old Real Valladolid goalkeeper Sergio Asenjo, who has a buy-out clause of £3.3 million. Portsmouth midfielder Pedro Mendes has recently been connected with the club while reports suggesting that Villa are considering signing Stephen Carr, who was released by Newcastle recently, have resurfaced.
Martin O'Neill is said to be closer than both Arsenal and Chelsea to signing Valencia defender Miguel at a cut-back price. Following the Spanish side's terrible season Valencia need to bring in some fast cash before they can think about strengthening their squad. Miguel will be an ideal replacement for Olof Mellberg who is moving to Juventus in the summer. Another possible replacement is Wigan defender Paul Scharner, who has been attracting interest recently.
Birmingham City
Latest News:
Mauro Zarate could be on the way out after his agent revealed that talks have opened with Premiership clubs about next season. "We are in talks with two Premier League clubs, but there are three or four others who are also interested," Christian Otero said. "He would have loved to stay at Birmingham...but unfortunately with the situation there it will not be possible for him to stay."
Karren Brady, the club's managing director, was on the verge of taking a similar role at Arsenal before her move was derailed by her arrest along with that of Birmingham owner David Sullivan on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud and false accounting. Both have denied the charges and vowed to clear their names but the North London club Brady has followed since childhood are now looking elsewhere.
Sebastian Larsson will stay at Birmingham City in spite of their relegation. The Swedish midfielder said: "It's so disappointing being relegated. It's funny because ever since the new management team have come in, it's felt great. It's felt like we have been moving in the right direction all of the time. At the end of the day, it's us players who have to take responsibility for being relegated. But we can come back up straight away. We have to come back stronger. As a team, we have to bounce back."
Blackburn Rovers
Latest News:
Tottenham's Hossan Ghaly has confirmed that he is on Blackburn’s summer transfer shopping list. "Blackburn want to sign me. I have offers from other Premier League sides in addition to a Hertha Berlin bid but I haven't chosen my next destination yet," said Ghaly.
Blackburn are preparing a raid on Espanyol to sign Albert Riera, Marc Torrejon, striker Ferran Corominas, as well as also considering an approach for Bulgarian winger Ivelin Popov after reportedly flying the player to the UK. The 20-year-old, who was linked with Manchester City last year, currently plays for PFC Litex Lovech. Rumours linking the player with Derby were rubbished by Paul Jewell. According to reports, Blackburn are looking to strengthen their defence by bringing in Newcastle United defender Abdoulaye Faye.
Blackburn midfielder David Bentley has reportedly rejected a new contract at Ewood Park, which will arouse the attention of both Tottenham and Chelsea. Both are expected to launch £15 million bids after expressing interest in the player earlier this month.
Bolton Wanderers
Latest News:
Bolton are targeting Sporting Lisbon's Miguel Veloso, although they have been informed by the Portuguese club that they will have to pay £16 million for the player.
The club are leading the race for Sean Geddes, the Walsall youngster. Apparently, Newcastle and Blackburn also want the midfielder but the 16-year-old chose to train with Gary Megson's team this week. Megson has informed winger Stelios Giannakopoulos that his contract will not be renewed and he must now find a new club. The 33-year-old has said he wants to stay in England and his agents are said to be contacting other clubs offering his services.
Megson has also stressed that striker El-Hadji Diouf will not be released at a cut price, despite the 27-year-old insisting that he will depart the Reebok stadium at the end of the season.
Chelsea
Latest News:
Samuel Eto'o and Zlatan Ibrahimovic could sign for Chelsea for a combined £50 million if Frank Rijkaard becomes the new manager.
Meanwhile, AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has confirmed that Milan would welcome a return for Andriy Shevchenko to the San Siro. He said: "If Chelsea lets him leave, Sheva will come, it depends on them. Chelsea knows what the conditions are of Milan. If they are available to negotiate, we certainly will sign Sheva."
Speculation surrounding Kaka has once again been whipped up. Didier Drogba and Ricardo Carvallho will be offered in return for the AC Milan player, along with a substantial cash payment.
Chelsea are the latest club to be linked with Mexican teenager Giovani dos Santos, who currently plays for Barcelona. Chelsea could offer Florent Malouda in return. Malouda has also been linked with a move to Italy, with Juventus leading the pack to sign him.
Frank Lampard has told Chelsea he will be ready to discuss a new contract after playing in England's forthcoming friendly internationals, while Chelsea will have been alerted to the availability of Deco at Barcelona, and would reportedly make an offer if Lampard chose to move on.
Derby County
Latest News:
Paul Jewell has said that he expects Hossam Ghaly to look elsewhere. "Hossam had a really good spell for us, and when I spoke to him he said he would like to stay in the Premier League," said Jewell.
Derby have confirmed that the club has accepted a bid for Rob Earnshaw, although the club refused to reveal the identity of Earnshaw's future club. Nottingham Forest - from whom Kris Commons will join on a free transfer in the summer - are believed to be in the running for the Welsh striker, who broke Derby's transfer record when he signed from Norwich City last summer for £3.5 million.
John Steward is set to join Derby on a free transfer from Watford. Derby striker Kenny Miller is set jump ship and make a return to Ibrox to play once again for Rangers, who will pay £2 million for him.
Paul Jewell will continue his efforts to rebuild Derby by making a move for Plymouth's Paul Connolly. Despite having strong links with a move to Charlton at the end of this campaign the 24-year-old defender has been in talks with Derby.
Everton
Latest News:
David Moyes has decided against approaching CSKA Moscow for Jo, although Everton are now being linked with CSKA's midfielder Dudu, who has been on loan at Valencia. The Brazilian would cost around £8m.. If that bid should fail, Bordeaux midfielder Alou Diarra is reportedly another £8 million target for the summer.
Everton are hoping to bring Michael Owen back to Merseyside, and the club that Owen's father Terry once played, and which Owen himself supported as a boy. With rumours that Owen is set to have his wages cut from £120,000-a-week to £80,000-a-week, and a contract that has just one year left, Owen's future at Newcastle is far from certain.
Latest news has Everton boss David Moyes preparing for a £3 million bid for out-of-favour Chelsea midfielder Steve Sidwell and a £4 million offer for American midfielder Michael Bradley from the Dutch side Heerenveen. Interest has also been made known to Spanish international Joaquin, and his club Valencia.
Wayne Hennessy, Wolves' Welsh international goalkeeper, has been linked with a £5.5 million summer transition to Everton, while Newcastle defender Stephen Carr has also been tipped with a move to Goodison Park, although David Moyes could face stiff competition for the full-back. Everton are also interested in Wolves striker Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, and Cardiff's £3m-rated star Aaron Ramsey. However, Moyes faces a fight with Arsenal, Chelsea and even Manchester United.
Fulham
Latest News:
The reasonably quiet end of season transfer news for Fulham ends abruptly as reports have filtered through that captain Brian McBride could be heading back to States. The American is wanted by Major League Soccer sides Columbus Crew and Chicago Fire, and the fact that his contract expires this summer will do nothing to put fans minds at ease.
Fulham have signed Middlesbrough goalkeeper Mark Schwartzer on a free transfer for a two-year deal. Schwarzer has called time on an 11-year career with Middlesbrough.
Roy Hodgson is considering paving the way for a return for Steve Finnan from Liverpool. He would cost £2 million, but Liverpool are said to be willing to let him go, especially after just signing Philipp Degen.
Goalkeeper Kasey Keller has been linked with a move to Bayern Munich. The 38-year-old's contract is up for renewal in the summer.
Liverpool
Latest News:
Rafa Benitez continues to look to augment his squad with defenders as Bristol City defender Liam Fontaine is reportedly being lined up as a £1 million target.
Udinese left-back Andrea Dossena will reportedly close with Liverpool this week, although competition from Fiorentina and Juventus could push the price up from £6 million to £8 million. Liverpool appear to be in pole position for the 26-year old after opening negotiations recently with Udinese sporting director Pietro Leonardi.
Benitez is lining up former France 'keeper, and current Bordeaux number one Ulrich Rame to deputy for Pepe Reina. 20-year-old Napoli midfielder Marek Hamsik and Espanyol's £6m-rated winger Albert Riera are other names being linked with the club. Riera could be a likely option as he has informed his club that he would like to leave this summer.
Liverpool have reportedly turned down a £25 million bid from Inter Milan for Steven Gerrard. The Italian giants want to make the 27-year-old their main signing as they begin their centenary celebrations.
Liverpool are preparing alternatives in case their bid to sign Gareth Barry falls through. Stewart Downing is one option that is currently being considered at Anfield, with Benitez ready to pay £12 million for the Middlesbrough winger.
Manchester City
Latest News:
Manchester City will break their transfer record by some margin if reports that the club are close to signing Brazilian striker Jo from CSKA Moscow are proved true. The deal is said to be worth around £18 million.
City sent out "super agent" Pini Zahavi yesterday to begin talks with Barcelona to sign their teenage midfielder Giovani Dos Santos, although Tottenham now seem to be favourites to sign the Mexican tyro.
Manchester City have offered £12 million for Zenit St Petersburg striker Andrei Arshavin. The club wasted no time in approaching the player after watching him during the Uefa Cup final and have ambitions to see him perform at Eastlands on a more permanent basis.
Frank Rijkaard, the former Barcelona manager, has been named as City's first-choice managerial target if Luis Felipe Scolari turns the position down. Scolari however, is understood to been interested in taking over at Brazil again.
Manchester United
Latest News:
Micah Richards, and Sevilla's Brazilian duo Luis Fabiano and Daniel Alves are heading the list of players that Sir Alex Ferguson is keen to sign, apparently within two weeks. The Scot has a reputed £50 million to fund summer transfers.
Alves is seen as a replacement for Gerard Pique while Fabiano has been designated as United's top summer target. Ferguson will be looking to broaden his attacking options this summer, especially after losing patience with Louis Saha. Fabiano, who has scored 33 goals for Seville in La Liga this season, is eclipsing names such as Dimitar Berbatov as United's first choice summer buy. The 27-year-old has a contract valuation of £46.8 million but, more realistically, United could expect to sign him for a quarter of that price. Fabiano's own representatives put his price at £8.6 million.
United look to be facing a challenge to keep hold of fullback Patrice Evra next season, who is being courted by AC Milan. Le Parisien has reported that Milan will hope to sign the player on a free transfer if contract talks with United continue to stall. The France international has one year left on his contract.
The club are considering long-term target Klaas-Jan Huntelaar if they are priced out of the race to sign Dimitar Berbatov. Apparently, Sir Alex Ferguson has been tracking the Holland international since he moved to Ajax in January 2006 and may be inclined to make a bid of about £16 million. Huntelaar says Ajax will have the final say on whether he moves on this summer. "I am playing in the Dutch squad and the rest is not in my hands," he said.
Middlesbrough
Latest News:
Middlesbrough will fund a £3m move for Heerenveen's American midfielder Michael Bradley by selling George Boateng. Boro are also considering a move for Wolves' goalkeeper Wayne Hennessey after their main target, Paul Robinson, looks certain to sign for Man City this summer.
Newcastle's £6 million striker Alan Smith could find himself at the Riverside Stadium next season if Gareth Southgate gets his way.
Middlesbrough are prepared to make a £2 million bid to bring Crewe striker Nicky Maynard to the Riverside Stadium as soon as the summer transfer window opens. Gareth Southgate is understood to be a long-standing fan of the 21-year-old, and has been told that Crewe are willing to sell.
Gareth Southgate is considering spending £5 million on Bordeaux's Fernando Menegazzo. The 27-year-old would be required to strengthen the 'Boro midfield as both George Boateng and Fabio Rochemback are looking likely to leave the club in the summer. In addition, Southgate is also monitoring Giles Barnes at Derby and Jimmy Bullard at Fulham.
Cardiff centre-back Roger Johnson could be moving to the Riverside Stadium as Middlesbrough are rumoured to be preparing to offer £1.2 million for him.
Newcastle United
Latest News:
Newcastle have shown interest in Le Mans midfielder Stephane Sessegnon, who is flattered by the attention. "I am in contact with Le Mans, they told me Newcastle United have watched me and I am flattered to be linked with a big team in England," Sessegnon declared. "There are a lot of African players in the Premier League, [and moving there] would be a dream but I have to work hard and one day I could be there."
Newcastle are looking to continue their clear-out by off-loading Emre to Galatasaray in a swap deal with left winger Arda Turan. They are also eyeing Stuttgart striker Mario Gomez Rangers defender Carlos Cuellar.
Peter Ramage has left Newcastle in favour of a three-year deal and a better shot at first team football at QPR, while Newcastle look to replace him with Manchester City defender Richard Dunne. Kevin Keegan has put Dunne at the top of his transfer wish-list, and is urging his board to fight West Ham for the player.
Michael Owen's position at Newcastle is looking increasingly unstable. After talks with Mike Ashley, Keegan could be required to cut Owen's wages by up to £40,000-a-week. With Everton rumoured to be interested, Owen could look for a move. He is also being ambitiously chased by the Japanese J-League club JEF United Chiba.
Portsmouth
Latest News:
Portsmouth could sign Lyon striker Sidney Govou for £7m and Lazio midfielder Gaby Mudingayi for £8m and are also watching PSG star Amara Diane.
Harry Redknapp is reported to have seen off competition from Arsenal, Manchester City and Everton to sign 16-year-old Paris Saint-Germain’s Gael N'Lundulu, after he turned down a youth contract with the French side. "The offer from Portsmouth was very interesting. If PSG had really wanted to keep me, I would have stayed," he said.
Portsmouth have made a formal enquiry about Spurs' Younes Kaboul, who has alienated himself from White Hart Lane by criticising the management, according to the player's agent. Redknapp will now look to secure the defender, who cost Tottenham £7 million last summer, in a cut-price deal. Portsmouth are also lining up a £5 million offer for West Bromwich striker Ishmael Miller.
Portsmouth have gone head-to-head in the competition to sign Croatian striker Ivica Olic. The 28-year-old who has scored 10 times this season is out of contract next year and has a price tag of £4 million.
Harry Redknapp is keen to bring Benfica defender Luisao to Fratton Park. Redknapp, who has dispatched scouts to Portugal to report back on the Brazilian, would have to put up around £12 million for the centre-half. Luisao said: "I have no desire to speak about my future until the end of the season. The club are aware of my position, and if they receive a good offer for me then I have a good chance of leaving Portugal."
Reading
Latest News:
Relegated Reading look likely to lose a number of players this summer already. Roy Keane is hoping to sign Irish duo Stephen Hunt (who he tried and failed to sign in January) and Kevin Doyle, while Glen Little will look to leave Reading this summer after a disappointing season, according to reports.
Emerse Fae, the Ivory Coast international midfielder, has also announced his intention to leave Reading at the end of the season. He cites the lack of first team opportunities as a reason for wanting to leave. James Harper are also rumoured to be on the leaving list.
Nicky Shorey, who has been linked with a £2.5 million move to Newcastle, will be available for signing this summer, according to reports. Reading are desperate to generate transfer fees to ease Reading's drop into the Championship but chief executive Nigel Howe insists it also necessary to cut wages.
Looking to strengthen their midfield, Reading have expressed interest in Brahim Hemdani, the unsettled Rangers midfielder while Metz striker Rudy Gestade could also be incoming this summer. A likely transfer fee for the young French striker would be around the £3 million mark.
Stoke City
Latest News:
Stoke are in talks with Fulham about turning Gabriel Zakuani's loan deal into a more permanent deal, while also targeting Reading defender Ibrahima Sonko, although they might face a struggle with West Brom. Stoke City manager Tony Pulis insists he will adopt a prudent stance in the transfer market this summer. "We can't afford to have players coming in who feel they are doing us a favour. If we do that we are going to fail because when push comes to shove they will go running," he said.
Valenciennes defender Abdeslam Ouaddou has revealed that he is open to a move back to England after being linked with a move to newly-promoted Stoke. The 29-year-old has previously played with Fulham, and with Newcastle and Middlesbrough also thought to be keen on the Moroccan, a return looks likely. "Any player in the world would consider playing in the Premier League," he said.
Sunderland
Latest News:
Sunderland will reportedly offer West Ham £3 million for their unhappy winger Luis Boa Morte.
With places freed up Keane will use his Irish connections to raid Reading's Championship bound squad and take Kevin Doyle, Stephen Hunt and Shane Long to Wearside on the cheap.
Keane is determined to keep Kenwyne Jones at Sunderland having knocked back interest from Liverpool. Rafa Benitez is rumoured to be prepared to pay £10 million for the striker, but Keane is determined to keep him at the Stadium of Light. Jones has only been at Sunderland for one season but has impressed Keane enormously. The Irish manager described him as "the best striker in the division."
Sunderland have joined the race with Celtic and Tottenham to sign Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng. The Dutchman almost moved to White Hart Lane in January but the deal fell through when Didier Zokora refused a move the other way. Meanwhile, Keane is relishing another battle with Celtic and Middlesbrough over West Ham's Carlton Cole, with Sunderland said to be heading the charge for the former England Under-21 striker.
Roy Keane will purchase Birmingham's on-loan Argentine striker Mauro Zarate if the club are relegated, suggest reports.
Tottenham Hotspur
Latest News:
According to reports, Spurs have beaten off Manchester City and signed Barcelona's teenage tyro Giovani Dos Santos in a £12.5 million deal, while defender Ricardo Rocha has said that he would be keen to return to Benfica after playing just 13 times for Spurs.
Lazio's Swiss midfielder Valon Behrami, valued at around £9.6 million, has been linked with White Hart Lane.
Dimitar Berbatov’s agent Emil Dantchev has confirmed that his client's future will be decided in the next few weeks, with Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona and AC Milan all expected to compete for his signature.
They are also chasing Real Zaragoza's £10 million-rated striker Diego Milito, who has been made available following Zaragoza's relegation and Bolivia striker Marcelo Moreno, who has been dubbed the "new Gabriel Batistuta". Alvimar Perrella, president of Cruzeiro, said: "The [first] proposal was well short of what we expected. Of course, they should return to make a new offer but, until now, no [they haven't]."
West Bromwich Albion
Latest News:
West Brom look set to complete a £3.5 million deal to sign Aston Villa striker Luke Moore.
Zoltan Gera could be moving further on up, as the midfielder has received an offer to join Benfica, according to reports.
According to Danish daily newspaper Ekstra Bladet, FC Copenhagen 'keeper Jesper Christiansen will join the Baggies for their return to the Premier League, as is South Korean international Kim Do-Heon. The 25-year-old has been on loan at the club since January, but he will sign a permanent deal.
Portsmouth have moved to sign highly-rated West Bromwich Albion player James Hurst for an undisclosed fee. The 16-year-old is an England youth international and he has accepted the offer to move to Fratton Park. "He is a promising right-back who our recruitment officer Alan Miller chased rigorously," said Pompey's academy coach Ian Woan. "He's got a lot of work to do but he can handle a football, he's quick and he's intelligent. We're all looking forward to with working with him."
West Ham United
Latest News:
West Ham look set to land Palermo midfielder Mark Bresciano for £4 million, and are weighing up the possibility of moving for Manchester United's Louis Saha and Bolton winger El-Hadji Diouf.
The hoped-for transfer of Juventus' Davide Lanzafame could be threatened after complications arising from Juventus' attempts to sign Brazilian-born striker Amauri. Alan Curbishley is willing to sell both Dean Ashton and Anton Ferdinand to raise funds for Everton striker Andrew Johnson and Newcastle defender Steven Taylor.
The club have also joined the race to sign Manchester City's Richard Dunne, who is believed to be unhappy after recent club politics surrounding Sven-Goran Eriksson. Alan Curbishley has been told that he must free up some squad space before he makes any moves to bring new players in. The club are likely to part company with Freddie Ljungberg who has endured an injury-marred campaign in East London though the move will cost West Ham some £3 million, while Curbishley is hoping to sign Reading defender Nicky Shorey. Alan Curbishley is set to bid £3.5m for Wolves winger Michael Kightley.
Wigan Athletic
Latest News:
Newcastle's Charles N'Zogbia is being linked with a £3.5 million move to Wigan, while Josip Skoko and Salomon Olembe have both been told that they will not have their contracts renewed at the end of the season.
Wigan winger Ryan Taylor is being targeted by Neil Warnock at Crystal Palace. Warnock is keen to sign Taylor regardless of whether his side earn promotion to the Premier League.
Bruce is rumoured to be offering Cardiff's Peter Whittington a ticket back to the Premiership. The former Aston Villa midfielder has been widely impressive during Cardiff's journey to the FA Cup final, he carries a price tag of £2 million. Ricardo Gardner, currently at Bolton, has also been connected with the club.
Hendry Thomas, a defensive midfielder from Honduras currently playing for Olimpia, could sign a three-year deal with Wigan this summer. Steve Bruce confirmed his club are looking to sign the player. "John Benson [Wigan's general manager] is in Honduras at the moment trying to tie someone up for us," Bruce said. "We've got an iron in the fire."
Transfers in full (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/football/transfers/sfntra102.xml)
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http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8184920/Gilardino-transfers-from-AC-Milan-to-Fiorentina
Gilardino transfers from AC Milan to Fiorentina
FLORENCE, Italy (AP) - Former Italy striker Alberto Gilardino has transferred from AC Milan to Fiorentina, the Tuscan club said Wednesday.
Gilardino scored 36 goals over three seasons at Milan, but never fully lived up to his hype as the next great Italian forward.
Gilardino started several games during Italy's World Cup victory in 2006, but has since been dropped from the team and will not play in the European Championship next month.
Fiorentina reportedly paid a €14 million ($21.8 million) transfer fee, and has signed Gilardino to a five-year deal worth €1.65 million per season, plus bonuses and incentives.
Fiorentina coach Cesare Prandelli previously guided Gilardino when the pair were with Parma.
Fiorentina will play Champions League qualifying matches in August. Milan will have to settle for the UEFA Cup for next season.
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Palermo losing players by the week boy.
Amauri leaving more than likely to Juve
Now Wolfsburg Go For Quagliarella & Bianchi
German-side Wolfsburg have already signed two Serie A stars, and they are now hoping to snap up another two in the form of Fabio Quagliarella and Rolando Bianchi.
Wolfsburg are one of the most ambitious teams in the German Bundesliga, and they have signalled their intentions for the future by signing Palermo’s highly-rated Italy international defenders Cristian Zaccardo and Andrea Barzagli.
Funded by German car manufacturing giants Volkswagen, Wolfsburg are now looking to sign up more Italians, and according to the Gazzetta dello Sport, are ready to spend big on a forward.
The primary aim is to buy Udinese’s Fabio Quagliarella, who scored 12 Serie A goals this past season, and is part of Italy’s Euro 2008 squad.
A second option is Rolando Bianchi, who spent the second half of the season at loan at Lazio from Premiership side Manchester City, and is available for €12m.
Wolfsburg are fast developing into the most Italian side outside of Serie A, and indeed they already have more first team players from the peninsula than Scudetto champions Inter do.
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Keane turns it down.
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Keane turns it down.
source?
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Keane turns it down.
source?
Good padnah who in de know. Cyah really reveal he name here but de news will come out shortly.
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He caryin him Chelsea lol
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Liverpool prepared to move for Sunderland’s Kenwyne Jones.
Rafa Benitez the Liverpool manager is on the verge of making a full bid for Kenwyne Jones the impressive Trinidad and Tobago striker currently plying his trade under Roy Keane at Sunderland.
Jones has had a great season at Sunderland and his club and manager in particular will fight tooth and nail to hold on to their star asset, however the lure of Anfield may prove too much for the 23 year old and Sunderland may have to accept defeat if the player is adamant that he wants the move to happen.
Sunderland will expect nothing less than £12 million for the player that joined them for £6 million from Southampton only a year ago and are aware that it is unlikely in the long run that the player will remain at the stadium of light.
Jones has been attracting some good reviews and only recently England captain John Terry said "Jones was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He is a very good player, very hard working and probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League, he really is that good"
Very high praise indeed.
Liverpool will try a swap deal initially with Peter Crouch, however Crouch will not entertain this idea and if anything is prepared to sit out his contract if he cannot get the move he desires and so it is likely that if Benitez hopes to get the player that Liverpool will have to pay big.
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Milan signs Zambrotta from Barcelona
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8197700/Milan-signs-Zambrotta-from-Barcelona
MILAN, Italy (AP) - AC Milan has signed Italy defender Gianluca Zambrotta from FC Barcelona, the Serie A club said.
Milan did not release financial details, but Gazzetta dello Sport reported Sunday that the team paid €9 million (US$13.96 million) for Zambrotta and will pay another €2 million (US$3.1 million) if Milan finishes in the top three in Italy's Serie A next season.
Zambrotta, 31, played the last two seasons at Barcelona following a seven-year stint at Juventus. The defender is part of the Italy team that will play in the European Championship this month in Switzerland and Austria.
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Been confirmed today.
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I can't understand this move at all.
Why leave a stable club that is progressing under your guidance to go to one where the owner has unrealistic goals and already show that he is a ruthless man not to be trusted.
Plus the team is not indisputably better than the one you have already!
And the whole Utd\City rivalry as well. Is not like Blackburn that far from Manchester to say he missing his house there.
All I could see is that maybe he couldn't get the bankroll to buy players at Blackburn that he might get at City...but is not like either club could attract the big names who cost those prices anyway.
Then again, maybe Thaskin really bringing Ronaldinho. Then it would all make sense...
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And the whole Utd\City rivalry as well. Is not like Blackburn that far from Manchester to say he missing his house there.
Plus the fact that he was always a potential successor to Fergie at Utd. This can't help.
Plus Thaksin is a madman - why would you ever want to work for him? :beermug:
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No potential successors named at Blackburn yet but I would like to see Paul Ince get a chance
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I can't understand this move at all.
Why leave a stable club that is progressing under your guidance to go to one where the owner has unrealistic goals and already show that he is a ruthless man not to be trusted.
Plus the team is not indisputably better than the one you have already!
And the whole Utd\City rivalry as well. Is not like Blackburn that far from Manchester to say he missing his house there.
All I could see is that maybe he couldn't get the bankroll to buy players at Blackburn that he might get at City...but is not like either club could attract the big names who cost those prices anyway.
Then again, maybe Thaskin really bringing Ronaldinho. Then it would all make sense...
Blackburn wasn't really progressing.. they were moreless hovering around the same place. I think they peaked under hughes and he was at the risk of getting stale there.
maybe he felt that he had taken that team as far as they could go and wanted a new challenge to press for champions league football.. Fact is he would never get anywhere near the kind of funds and investment from blackburn than he would at man city..
as for blackburn, i think sam allardyce would be a good fit for that wildman side.
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Blackburn wasn't really progressing.. they were moreless hovering around the same place. I think they peaked under hughes and he was at the risk of getting stale there.
maybe he felt that he had taken that team as far as they could go and wanted a new challenge to press for champions league football.. Fact is he would never get anywhere near the kind of funds and investment from blackburn than he would at man city..
as for blackburn, i think sam allardyce would be a good fit for that wildman side.
Well i don't know...adding Benni McArthy one year then Roque Santa Cruz the next were steps in the right direction. Plus they started off as a ''wildman side' as u put it, but this year Hughes impress everybody because he change them into a side that playing good ball now.
I understand the hovering at around the same place but, to me, it have no real difference between 9th and 5th in the premier league currently. They will all keep swapping places. I guess the bankroll is the major thing. Man City, Everton, Spurs, Villa (and probably Newcastle) all in a space to challenge Liverpool while Blackburn will remain mid-table.
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Villarreal have announced that they have agreed a fee with Barcelona for young central defender Martín Cáceres, who will sign his new contract with the Catalunya club imminently...
Villarreal announced via their official website that they have reached a 'principle of agreement' with Barcelona over the young Uruguayan, who is expected to agree personal terms with FCB this evening.
Barça report that the youngster, who spent last season on loan at Recreativo de Huelva, will transfer to Camp Nou for a total fee of around €16.5m.
Sport.es further claims that of this fee €10m will swell Villarreal's coffers, while the remaining €6.5m will be somehow divided between a group of agents, led by Daniel Fonseca, and Defensor Sporting of Montevideo, the 21-year-old's former club.
The player himself, who is jetting in to Barcelona to finalise matters, told Uruguayan media sources, "My agent told me that everything has been agreed with Barcelona.
"I thought I would sign for Real Madrid but Barça have come out suddenly. I'm excited, because its the best team of Spain. I didn't expect that my first season in Europe would be so good."
Barcelona's Report
Meanwhile, FC Barcelona clearly anticipate no problems in the actual signing process, with the penning of contracts a mere formality by this point.
To this end they have stated that the €16.5.m transfer will see Cáceres remain at Camp Nou for the next four seasons, while his minimum release clause will weigh in at €50m.
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=723319
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I want to hear what these Manchester Utd fans have to say about this!! lol................Allyuh still blaming Real Madrid?
www.skysports.com
Cristiano Ronaldo has broken his silence over his future by declaring a desire to move to Real Madrid.
The transfer story of the summer gathers pace by the day but prior to speaking to Brazilian website Terra, little of note had been offered by the Manchester United winger.
Sir Alex Ferguson and United's owners, the Glazer family, are united in their stance that Ronaldo will not be allowed to quit Old Trafford but their resolve to keep him will now be further tested by the player's latest declaration.
Speaking from Portugal's training base in the Swiss city of Neuchatel, Ronaldo admitted, according to Terra, that a move to the Spanish capital appealed.
"I want to play for Real Madrid, but only if it is true they are eager to pay me and Manchester United what they have been saying they will," said Ronaldo.
"However, it does not depend on me. It is important to send a message.
"From now on I will not talk again about this until the end of the Euros. It is not worth asking me because I will not reply."
On Wednesday, Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon said he would not risk ruining his club's relationship with Manchester United by bidding for a player under contract.
However, now Ronaldo has signalled his intent for a future in Spain, it could be Madrid that make the next move.
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and the plot thickens..........
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lol if the man want to go let him that is he choice lol. only time will tell if is a good or bad move if he leave
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Oh lawwwwwd. Look fergie scratchin' he head now. Is reserve team and bench fuh he now! :rotfl:
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A bad soap is 1 dat does show in d nite
A very bad soap is 1 ah d daytime ones
This is a very bad soap
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If this talk mushrooms somehow into action and the transfer materializes, it will force cronaldo to be a better player.
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Doh worry fellahs allyuh have Nani ::)
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Too bad Real open dey mouth and promised to pay Man United 100 million and promised Cronaldo 300,000 quid a week.... now that he wants the move, they have to put up or shut up.......
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Look more bachannal..........ah love it
www.skysports.com
Ruud van Nistelrooy is confident Cristiano Ronaldo will follow his lead and join Real Madrid to maintain the Spanish champions' world class transfer pedigree.
Speculation over Ronaldo's future has raged for months as United battle to keep hold of the Portuguese ace, while Real attempt to lure the winger to the Bernabeu.
But Real striker Van Nistelrooy, who left United in 2006 after 150 appearances and 95 goals, believes it is inevitable that his former Old Trafford team-mate will also move to Spain.
"He'd be an important signing for Madrid because this is a club which signs the best players in the world, and that's what Cristiano is," Van Nistelrooy told Marca.
"Cristiano could bring a lot of things to this club. He's young, he has everything and a long sporting career ahead of him.
"For Madrid he would be a great signing."
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Doh worry fellahs allyuh have Nani ::)
:devil: fergie go find a next star diver boy doh worry
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ManUtd = Feeder club to bigger teams like Real Madrid and Chelsea...:rotfl:
Not a big fish anymore?
But lets face it, de man want to win as much tings as possible!! He doen win everything in England already: Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup, Scoring Title, MVP etc
Time to move on......
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ManUtd = Feeder club to bigger teams like Real Madrid and Chelsea...:rotfl:
Not a big fish anymore?
But lets face it, de man want to win as much tings as possible!! He doen win everything in England already: Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup, Scoring Title, MVP etc
Time to move on......
valid point
, bigger teams :D, doh classfify Classify chelsea in that lol ??? :D chelsea aint win nothing yet. :devil:
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ManUtd = Feeder club to bigger teams like Real Madrid and Chelsea...:rotfl:
:rotfl:
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300,000 pounds a week? How de hell u can say no to that?
Of course he would want to go.........dat is real money!!
I thinking about it and want to know what de hell dey waiting on!!
The funniest part is that they (Rmadrid) said that this offer is only valid for this season!
ah love it!!
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And the plot thickens. If he comes to Real it'll be at the expense of Robinho, who would most likely go to ManU. My least favourite player coming to my favourite club and my favourite player going to my most hated club.
>:(
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If he wants to go i say sell him....take d offer of Robinho, Ramos, Diarra plus d 75 mill....we can buy Quaresma and Veloso.....we lost important players from the team already and we survived, Ronaldo is no different, Club always comes first.
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And the plot thickens. If he comes to Real it'll be at the expense of Robinho, who would most likely go to ManU. My least favourite player coming to my favourite club and my favourite player going to my most hated club.
>:(
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Madrid is a shite side.... let him go dey if he want to play on dey galitco garbage side....
Me ah no big La Liga fan and I doh waste time with dem.... rather watch a real ball team like Barca.... but United got the best of them also... ;D
Let him go, madrid have ah seta hoes...
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Madrid is a shite side.... let him go dey if he want to play on dey galitco garbage side....
Me ah no big La Liga fan and I doh waste time with dem.... rather watch a real ball team like Barca.... but United got the best of them also... ;D
Let him go, madrid have ah seta hoes...
boy i have to give you two beer for that :beermug: :beermug: well said
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Madrid is a shite side.... let him go dey if he want to play on dey galitco garbage side....
Me ah no big La Liga fan and I doh waste time with dem.... rather watch a real ball team like Barca.... but United got the best of them also... ;D
Let him go, madrid have ah seta hoes...
boy i have to give you two beer for that :beermug: :beermug: well said
them is some sour grapes boy, waaay...
matter of fact, is more like ah young cashew.. lol
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:devil: :devil: doh turn yuh back on the Man utd, u will be classified ah outcast ::)
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With regards to Van Nistelrooy, this is the same Van Nistelrooy who was very open with his dislike of Ronaldo while he was at United. Part of the reason Van Nistelrooy was sold was because of the fracas he had with Ronaldo on the training ground after reducing Cristiano to tears by making fun of his dead father.
Madrid are playing a very dangerous game and it borders on an illegal approach.
"However, it does not depend on me."
Listen to what he says there.
Madrid pull this tactic every close season to unsettle big name players into joining them. Two days ago, Calderon says that he does not want to destroy the good relationship Madrid have with United. Last week he says it would be impossible to sign Ronaldo. Today he says "I'll give Ronaldo three hundred grand a week". Now we have Van Nistelrooy, a player who already went public and said that he and Ronaldo never got on with each other when at United.
Madrids PR and propaganda machine is running at full pelt and this will just go on and on. If Ronaldo wants to go then let him go. Let them pay United 100 million and let them pay Ronaldo three hundred thousand a week. A hundred grand could buy United Huntelaar, Quaresma and Richards and they'll still have change to spare for any additional signings. No one player is bigger than the club.
This is why a lot of American sports have a wage cap.
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I don't mind if he go, let him go, no player has or is bigger than United! As long as they ain't take no payments in installments. Real want him then they need to pay out of this world money for him and send a few players with the check and everytime Ronaldo win something United need to get a kick back. Ah want to see who will be doing the type of donkey work at Real others do at United to ensure Ronaldo shined for United.
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With regards to Van Nistelrooy, this is the same Van Nistelrooy who was very open with his dislike of Ronaldo while he was at United. Part of the reason Van Nistelrooy was sold was because of the fracas he had with Ronaldo on the training ground after reducing Cristiano to tears by making fun of his dead father.
Madrid are playing a very dangerous game and it borders on an illegal approach.
"However, it does not depend on me."
Listen to what he says there.
Madrid pull this tactic every close season to unsettle big name players into joining them. Two days ago, Calderon says that he does not want to destroy the good relationship Madrid have with United. Last week he says it would be impossible to sign Ronaldo. Today he says "I'll give Ronaldo three hundred grand a week". Now we have Van Nistelrooy, a player who already went public and said that he and Ronaldo never got on with each other when at United.
Madrids PR and propaganda machine is running at full pelt and this will just go on and on. If Ronaldo wants to go then let him go. Let them pay United 100 million and let them pay Ronaldo three hundred thousand a week. A hundred grand could buy United Huntelaar, Quaresma and Richards and they'll still have change to spare for any additional signings. No one player is bigger than the club.
This is why a lot of American sports have a wage cap.
That is why these people play football for a living versus a job where they actually have to think! Most of them are as dumb as a bag of rocks who lbeleive they are smarter than they really are because they have people they pay telling them that. I have zero love for most ex United players all I care about is who on the team and how they can help the team win. They are all ex-players for a reason! My United jersey has Giggs on the back not none of them jonny come lately players who just droppin in for a cup of nescafe`.
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I don't mind if he go, let him go, no player has or is bigger than United! As long as they ain't take no payments in installments. Real want him then they need to pay out of this world money for him and send a few players with the check and everytime Ronaldo win something United need to get a kick back. Ah want to see who will be doing the type of donkey work at Real others do at United to ensure Ronaldo shined for United.
no one, cause both Raul and RVN want to shine, if he goes he'll have to work harder cause they wont be giving him d ball all d time.
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We are the best club in Europe hands down.... and the EPL is the best league in Europe... why would he want to go to a second class league????
Glory Glory Man United....
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Fergie eh stupid.....so i doh have no worries.......
if Ronaldo go....i sure we getting good compensation.
Besides, we eh wha no one stay against their will... next thing they eh want to fight the game or chase after a ball etc.
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ManUtd = Feeder club to bigger teams like Real Madrid and Chelsea...:rotfl:
Not a big fish anymore?
But lets face it, de man want to win as much tings as possible!! He doen win everything in England already: Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup, Scoring Title, MVP etc
Time to move on......
but I eh find nothing wrong with what ronaldo saying.... and what he said wasn't disrespectful to ManU at all, in my opinion...
De man basically say he want to play for them if they give him more money, simple... don't matter what profession you in, many of us will probably express the same desire if somebody offer alot more money right or wrong? so ii really doh see wha man gallery off of.
is not like he come out and say he want out of ManU at all cost... is ah $$ thing. Best of luck to him if he goes, we will spend the money wisely to strengthen the squad.
am i wrong on this?
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Fergie eh stupid.....so i doh have no worries.......
if Ronaldo go....i sure we getting good compensation.
Besides, we eh wha no one stay against their will... next thing they eh want to fight the game or chase after a ball etc.
Like Ruud did. And he wandered why Fergie sell he arse?
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Madrid is a shite side.... let him go dey if he want to play on dey galitco garbage side....
Me ah no big La Liga fan and I doh waste time with dem.... rather watch a real ball team like Barca.... but United got the best of them also... ;D
Let him go, madrid have ah seta hoes...
Real ball teams doh come 3rd eh. Check yuhself
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Kevin Austin leaves Swansea: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7431302.stm
5 June 2008
Kevin Austin [Swansea - Chesterfield] Free
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Yeah real ball teams win champions leagues fella! Like UNITED.......
I does watch La Liga only it is an alternative to Jerry Springer..... :devil:
The only reason I see him going here is if Madrid paying more.....
I enjoy watching Barca because I feel they brand better.... you could thank Disgruntled and West Coast for that....
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If the man wants to go let him go.
70+ M pounds will go down very nicely.
At least Ronaldo laid down the gauntlet to Madrid saying that they have to be prepared to spend record money. That helps United because if Real does not show any ambition Ronaldo should have some understanding if he doesn't get moved this year.
He can't really expect United to bend over and let him go for chicken feed.
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I enjoy watching Barca because I feel they brand better.... you could thank Disgruntled and West Coast for that....
thanks eh
but ya cyar rate me at the same level as Disgruntled for supporting Barca eh
He is de Barca Fanatic
Go Barca
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If the man wants to go let him go.
70+ M pounds will go down very nicely.
At least Ronaldo laid down the gauntlet to Madrid saying that they have to be prepared to spend record money. That helps United because if Real does not show any ambition Ronaldo should have some understanding if he doesn't get moved this year.
He can't really expect United to bend over and let him go for chicken feed.
Agreed... i still don't trust the source... A Brazilian website?? Come on... Until he speaks into a skysports or BBC microphone i will believe it..
Till then he is still with us... everyone is acting as if he has left... it is not even 50% confirmed...
The only players that are in the same class and versatile like CR7 that can replace him are..Kaka who actually said this week he would love to play for United ... sounded quite serious.. Messi and Dinho are the only others...
I'll take 70 million pounds plus Ramos.... Quite ridiculous move by CR7 if you ask me... 23 years old..At the best team in the world..about to dominate English and potentially European Football and wants to go to unstable Madrid...oh Loyalty..where are you? Money is the only reason and its quite disappointing... If he leaves this summer I will never forgive him...
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
what? to challenge for "3rd" place in europe?
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
what? to challenge for "3rd" place in europe?
nice strike
top corner ;D ;D
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
LOL ... What a c**t
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
ent..
if he stick around is de mighty hull city, stoke and west brom in he cuddas munt come ah sunday..
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
ent..
if he stick around is de mighty hull city, stoke and west brom in he cuddas munt come ah sunday..
Much different to the bottom 5 teams in La Liga? Btw dont you support Chelsea? f**king waggonists..
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I think he should just go. That would be nice. He could do with a new challenge. ;D
And Alex should replace him with Senderos.
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
ent..
if he stick around is de mighty hull city, stoke and west brom in he cuddas munt come ah sunday..
Much different to the bottom 5 teams in La Liga? Btw dont you support Chelsea? f**king waggonists..
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil:
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Since allyuh EPL fans eh notice, CR wants a challenge, the EPL is not supplying that.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
ent..
if he stick around is de mighty hull city, stoke and west brom in he cuddas munt come ah sunday..
Much different to the bottom 5 teams in La Liga? Btw dont you support Chelsea? f**king waggonists..
yep, much different..
one of these days you must take a lil walk on the wild side and watch some la liga ball.
overcoming the EPL brainwashing won't happen overnight, but I think you'd be surprised by what you see.
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Allyuh Man U fans feeling like CR hornin allyuh lol.
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I feel if he want a challenge he should take up Soduku or cross word puzzles or even an english class....
If he want more money feel free to go to Madrid and watch the EPL teams make CL final after final.....
Take me home.... take me home.....
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As much as I wouldn't like to see CR7 leave, NO MAN BIGGER DAN MANU, so if dey paying let him go......
If the story true CR7 think de grass greener on de other side.....I doh think it would be a good move (Going from #1 club to #3)
But anyway it have sooooo many MANU players on de bench dat could/would fill dat gap no biggie in my eyes.
But he go be missed if he leaves :devil: :devil: :devil:
Glory Glory
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As much as I wouldn't like to see CR7 leave, NO MAN BIGGER DAN MANU, so if dey paying let him go......
If the story true CR7 think de grass greener on de other side.....I doh think it would be a good move (Going from #1 club to #3)
But anyway it have sooooo many MANU players on de bench dat could/would fill dat gap no biggie in my eyes.
But he go be missed if he leaves :devil: :devil: :devil:
Glory Glory
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Allyuh Man U fans feeling like CR hornin allyuh lol.
Ronaldo is replacable just like any man or woman! He wants to test the waters so be it but at least be a grown up about it and speak it to a credible media outlet so everyone knows where he stands. All this drawn out nonsense is drama and soap oprahish!
The is only one RYAN GIGGS, there is only one RYAN GIGGS!!!!!!!!
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Well Dos Santos sign with Spur :'(
http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada07-08/06/n080606104518.html
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
Unless that guy's name is Roy Keane i'll believe your source ;D
I'm tired of this topic... Whatever happens..happens
"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
Unless that guy's name is Roy Keane i'll believe your source ;D
I'm tired of this topic... Whatever happens..happens
"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
Source solid in my eyes LOL......Yu right Maggs MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
:applause:
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
i jus read on BBC rumors section that he ban Fergie from visiting him at portugal training camp.........could just all be gossip, but if thats true he's going about things the wrong way and making enemies for himself, something he doesn't need if he wants to be a global superstar........at this point i say sell d facka, take d 70+ mil, along with Ramos, Robinho and who every else they was giving up....we don't need any distraction going back into camp come july 1st......
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But anyway it have sooooo many MANU players on de bench dat could/would fill dat gap no biggie in my eyes.
Ronaldo is replacable just like any man or woman!
So allyuh have another 42-goal man, and he on de bench no less??? Why allyuh doh play him!!!
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But anyway it have sooooo many MANU players on de bench dat could/would fill dat gap no biggie in my eyes.
Ronaldo is replacable just like any man or woman!
So allyuh have another 42-goal man, and he on de bench no less??? Why allyuh doh play him!!!
wop wap
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
Unless that guy's name is Roy Keane i'll believe your source ;D
I'm tired of this topic... Whatever happens..happens
"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
...and wha name is dat? "AIG"?
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
Unless that guy's name is Roy Keane i'll believe your source ;D
I'm tired of this topic... Whatever happens..happens
"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
...and wha name is dat? "AIG"?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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But anyway it have sooooo many MANU players on de bench dat could/would fill dat gap no biggie in my eyes.
Ronaldo is replacable just like any man or woman!
So allyuh have another 42-goal man, and he on de bench no less??? Why allyuh doh play him!!!
Did anybody think Ronaldo will score that much next season whether he is at United or not? He may score between 25 and 30 but not that much. Plus United need to replace Saha, plus another forward to compliment Rooney and Tevez. Ronald's goals can and will be replaced. Fergie has been doing this long enough not build his teams around one player!!!!!!!!!! Ronaldo is only one player not the team! Everyone is replaceable even you Peong! LOL!
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Doh worry wid dem HATERS, dey looking for hope for next season.....Glory GLORY MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Ah know all dem Liverfool, Chelski and Arsenal fans praying he leave cause they believe it will give their team a chance to actually win something next season. He can go, he can stay, allyuh ain't winning shite!! But allyuh can still hope.
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giggsy keep foolin yuhself, before CR take Man U on he back allyuh wasn't runnin nutting.
If CR leave allyuh ass is grass.
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man united fans.. being a feeder club, would it not give you great joy to see a player you developed so much succeeding at the best club in the world?
i would imagine Sporting Lisbon feel the same way about CR7.
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
Unless that guy's name is Roy Keane i'll believe your source ;D
I'm tired of this topic... Whatever happens..happens
"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
...and wha name is dat? "AIG"?
nice one Chow,
and for dramatic effect
(http://store.manutd.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237925-601.jpg)
and you need one ah dese to see the Real Name
(http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/look---.gif)
MU HA HA ;D
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Jus hear from ah guy I work with in Ireland and he say how CR7 and Fergie fall out a couple of days ago about CR7 wanting to leave. It looking more and more like he really want to go.
Anyway no biggie, we go be getting 70+ million and 3 or 4 of Real players in dis deal LOL........
Glory Glory
Unless that guy's name is Roy Keane i'll believe your source ;D
I'm tired of this topic... Whatever happens..happens
"The Name on the Front of the Shirt..Is much more important than the Name on the Back"
...and wha name is dat? "AIG"?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
or a line from Goal the dream begins......
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giggsy keep foolin yuhself, before CR take Man U on he back allyuh wasn't runnin nutting.
If CR leave allyuh ass is grass.
Keep hoping Peong ah mean hator, keep hoping! Ronaldo was a big part of the team, but if he goes, you think Lord Wrigley will not replace him? Especially if they make sure they get serious wonga for him? We shall over come!
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I enjoy watching Barca because I feel they brand better.... you could thank Disgruntled and West Coast for that....
thanks eh
but ya cyar rate me at the same level as Disgruntled for supporting Barca eh
He is de Barca Fanatic
Go Barca
Big side is big side
Força Barça
Much different to the bottom 5 teams in La Liga? Btw dont you support Chelsea? f**king waggonists..
The bottom 5 in La Liga will run rings around the bottom 5 in the EPL any day Small Mag.
Is aight to back Man U, is kind ah aight to back England (not really) but is foolish to believe the bottom half of the EPL could beat anybody in Europe
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Hear what: I tell allyuh manUre fans dat dem two trowfee allyuh win arready is de LAST allyuh winning in europe fuh a long, long time. Whether allyuh lil' beeeeeeeyotch leave or stay, dat brand ah football allyuh does play is only good enough fuh de occaisional "one-shot-deal". Chelsea eh bizniz wit epl dominance. Chelsea prove dey could win dat, and BUILD their team to CL class. Once dey done tinkering, allyuh eh go see allyuh way. English teams as a whole, have seen the last of their "dominance" in contemporary European football. and that include all dem shit side from North London, to North England! ;D
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Hear what: I tell allyuh manUre fans dat dem two trowfee allyuh win arready is de LAST allyuh winning in europe fuh a long, long time. Whether allyuh lil' beeeeeeeyotch leave or stay, dat brand ah football allyuh does play is only good enough fuh de occaisional "one-shot-deal". Chelsea eh bizniz wit epl dominance. Chelsea prove dey could win dat, and BUILD their team to CL class. Once dey done tinkering, allyuh eh go see allyuh way. English teams as a whole, have seen the last of their "dominance" in contemporary European football. and that include all dem shit side from North London, to North England! ;D
Chow,take off yuh colour ( blue with addidas stripes) glasses!. United will win the CL and EPL before your beloved Chelski do. Half of your team leaving and nobody want to even manage yuh team no matter how much wonga Roman throw at them. They two assistants Chow and Omar can't even decide who is suppose tuh put out the cones and collect the balls after practice and yuh think all yuh building empire! Man come again!
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Losing ronaldo is not no scene, Man utd will always be a big club, with or without him i am sure it have other players out there fergie can buy.
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Yeah real ball teams win champions leagues fella! Like UNITED.......
I does watch La Liga only it is an alternative to Jerry Springer..... :devil:
The only reason I see him going here is if Madrid paying more.....
I enjoy watching Barca because I feel they brand better.... you could thank Disgruntled and West Coast for that....
Like de NINE Real Madrid win?
Why yuh doh go so!
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Losing ronaldo is not no scene, Man utd will always be a big club, with or without him i am sure it have other players out there fergie can buy.
Yeah, ones who are actually world class.
If C. Ronaldo has to leave, he should go to Barca, not Real. >:(
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According to reports in Spain, Sevilla's Brazilian winger Dani Alves has signed for Barcelona.
Dani Alves is on the verge of signing for the Blaugrana. A deal has been reached but just a few minor details need to be fixed before pen can be put to paper.
Barcelona have managed to strike a deal with Sevilla for Alves following a six hour meeting between Blaugrana and Rojiblanco directors.
Txiki Begiristain and Marc Ingla met with Sevilla president Jose Maria Del Nido and both parties decided to agree on a €32 million deal which could rise to €35 million depending on how well the wing-back does at Camp Nou.
According to Sport, everything has been cleared and all that is needed is confirmation from both clubs in order to finalise and make the transfer official.
The Spanish paper claims that an inside source has informed them that the deal will be resolved by telephone or fax within the next few hours.
The meeting between the clubs dragged on as Del Nido did not want to part company with his player for anything less than €35m with Barcelona offering less than €30m.
However, Del Nido settled for €32m for Alves to make a €31m profit on the player he signed for $1m from Bahia in 2002.
It is believed that Fernando Navarro will also have the possibility of moving to Sevilla as part of the Alves deal but this has not been confirmed just yet.
Alves is currently in the United States and reports in Spain suggest that the player is delighted with the move and that he cannot wait to begin his new adventure with the Blaugrana.
goal.com (http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=726076)
I expect 2 or 3 players to be sold.
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And the plot thickens. If he comes to Real it'll be at the expense of Robinho, who would most likely go to ManU. My least favourite player coming to my favourite club and my favourite player going to my most hated club.
>:(
dance puppets...dance ;D
and the cycle continues..the new Galacticos machine is being built, while Barca tears theirs down. wash, rinse, repeat cycle
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Losing ronaldo is not no scene, Man utd will always be a big club, with or without him i am sure it have other players out there fergie can buy.
Yeah, ones who are actually world class.
If C. Ronaldo has to leave, he should go to Barca, not Real. >:(
doh wish dat upon us nuh :devil:
diving ent a football sport
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Look more bachannal..........ah love it
www.skysports.com
Ruud van Nistelrooy is confident Cristiano Ronaldo will follow his lead and join Real Madrid to maintain the Spanish champions' world class transfer pedigree.
Speculation over Ronaldo's future has raged for months as United battle to keep hold of the Portuguese ace, while Real attempt to lure the winger to the Bernabeu.
But Real striker Van Nistelrooy, who left United in 2006 after 150 appearances and 95 goals, believes it is inevitable that his former Old Trafford team-mate will also move to Spain.
"He'd be an important signing for Madrid because this is a club which signs the best players in the world, and that's what Cristiano is," Van Nistelrooy told Marca.
"Cristiano could bring a lot of things to this club. He's young, he has everything and a long sporting career ahead of him.
"For Madrid he would be a great signing."
RVN is d same man who had him cryin on the trainin pitch when he cuss him an tease him bout he dead father ???
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I enjoy watching Barca because I feel they brand better.... you could thank Disgruntled and West Coast for that....
thanks eh
but ya cyar rate me at the same level as Disgruntled for supporting Barca eh
He is de Barca Fanatic
Go Barca
Big side is big side
Força Barça
Much different to the bottom 5 teams in La Liga? Btw dont you support Chelsea? f**king waggonists..
The bottom 5 in La Liga will run rings around the bottom 5 in the EPL any day Small Mag.
Is aight to back Man U, is kind ah aight to back England (not really) but is foolish to believe the bottom half of the EPL could beat anybody in Europe
Doh mind he. puh-LEEZ! When it come to challenging anybody in Europe, de bottom half o' de epl cyah even beat dey self!
As fuh you, Giggsy, you have rel belly to be talkin' 'bout me and my "blue coloured glasses". (and dat is ROYAL BLUE, too eh. Get it RIGHT!!) You cyah even see past your red, "horn-rimmed" (no pun intended) glasses to even admit that allyuh hansey-pansey, cry-baby, ALWAYS-gesturin'-like-a-b**ch-when-he-don't-get-a-call, lil' golden girl is a diver (much less the biggest one in Europe, at least).
MUHAHA!!!
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Madrid obtiene lo que Madrid quiere...siempre
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would it not give you great joy to see a player you developed so much succeeding at the best club in the world?
Madrid have failed to get past the quarter final stage of the Champions League in their last four attempts.
In that time, an average Liverpool side who haven't won their domestic championship since 1990, have gotten to the final twice (winning it once).
Still think they're the best club in the world?
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But lets face it, de man want to win as much tings as possible!! He doen win everything in England already: Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup, Scoring Title, MVP etc
Time to move on......
Your post is ridiculous to the point of being banal.
The players United have sold to Madrid are players that they were willing to let go. Van Nistelrooy was offloaded because of his problems with Ronaldo and inability to adapt to the new system that united wanted to employ. You'll notice that at the latter half of the the 2005/06 season, United were playing Rooney and Saha up front and Ronaldo roaming with great success and almost nearly won the title that season. It was clear the RVNs time was up and was promptly sold. Notice how RVN was PUT UP FOR SALE. The following season, United win the league.
Near the end of the 2002/03 season, Solskjaer was employed on the right flank instead of Beckham. United win the league and Beckham is sold. Both of these players were put up for sale by United. Madrid just happened to offer the most money for both of them.
Fergie is an expert at breaking teams up and building better ones. It doesn't matter who you are, if you don't fit in with the new system he wants to put in place for success, you're gone. In the summer of 1995, United sold Hughes, Ince and Kanchelskis. Thats three STAR players sold. The following season, United promote Scholes, Beckham, Neville and Butt from the youth team and promptly win the league and FA Cup.
The problem here is that united DON'T want to sell Ronaldo. Madrid don't want to play by the rules and open formal negotiations or make a formal approach, instead they use their media machine to say "We will give him x amount of money if he comes to us" or "We will sign him" ignoring the fact that they haven't approached United nor have their been any negotiations because United have put a 'Not for sale' sign on his head. They can't talk to Ronaldo without the clubs consent because thats a breach of the regulations and illegal.
You can't have employees talking to other people and signing contracts and their employer not knowing anything about it.
ManUtd = Feeder club to bigger teams like Real Madrid and Chelsea...:rotfl:
And who have United sold to Chelsea to make them a feeder club? I'll answer that. Nobody.
The last United player to move to Chelsea was Juan Veron in the summer of 2003.
Bigger clubs like Real Madrid and Chelsea?
Who are the current European Champions?
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But lets face it, de man want to win as much tings as possible!! He doen win everything in England already: Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup, Scoring Title, MVP etc
Time to move on......
Your post is ridiculous to the point of being banal.
The players United have sold to Madrid are players that they were willing to let go. Van Nistelrooy was offloaded because of his problems with Ronaldo and inability to adapt to the new system that united wanted to employ. You'll notice that at the latter half of the the 2005/06 season, United were playing Rooney and Saha up front and Ronaldo roaming with great success and almost nearly won the title that season. It was clear the RVNs time was up and was promptly sold. Notice how RVN was PUT UP FOR SALE. The following season, United win the league.
Near the end of the 2002/03 season, Solskjaer was employed on the right flank instead of Beckham. United win the league and Beckham is sold. Both of these players were put up for sale by United. Madrid just happened to offer the most money for both of them.
Fergie is an expert at breaking teams up and building better ones. It doesn't matter who you are, if you don't fit in with the new system he wants to put in place for success, you're gone. In the summer of 1995, United sold Hughes, Ince and Kanchelskis. Thats three STAR players sold. The following season, United promote Scholes, Beckham, Neville and Butt from the youth team and promptly win the league and FA Cup.
The problem here is that united DON'T want to sell Ronaldo. Madrid don't want to play by the rules and open formal negotiations or make a formal approach, instead they use their media machine to say "We will give him x amount of money if he comes to us" or "We will sign him" ignoring the fact that they haven't approached United nor have their been any negotiations because United have put a 'Not for sale' sign on his head. They can't talk to Ronaldo without the clubs consent because thats a breach of the regulations and illegal.
You can't have employees talking to other people and signing contracts and their employer not knowing anything about it.
ManUtd = Feeder club to bigger teams like Real Madrid and Chelsea...:rotfl:
And who have United sold to Chelsea to make them a feeder club? I'll answer that. Nobody.
The last United player to move to Chelsea was Juan Veron in the summer of 2003.
Bigger clubs like Real Madrid and Chelsea?
Who are the current European Champions?
Welcome to the board venerable one..
looks like you know your stuff but keep in mind that men just getting jones off Man Utd head calling them a feeder club.
nothing is more entertaining than riling up de prawn sandwich eaters on here. :beermug:
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Yeah so ManU say dey rather see de man rot in de stands than play in the Bernabeu...dise how allyuh does treat allyuh people? Dey's de "family" Small Mag always waxing lyrical about?
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Yeah so ManU say dey rather see de man rot in de stands than play in the Bernabeu...dise how allyuh does treat allyuh people? Dey's de "family" Small Mag always waxing lyrical about?
doh get involve in man utd personal affairs nah, stueps ::) :devil:
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Yeah so ManU say dey rather see de man rot in de stands than play in the Bernabeu...dise how allyuh does treat allyuh people? Dey's de "family" Small Mag always waxing lyrical about?
doh get involve in man utd personal affairs nah, stueps ::) :devil:
Whatever. What a loving family.
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Yeah so ManU say dey rather see de man rot in de stands than play in the Bernabeu...dise how allyuh does treat allyuh people? Dey's de "family" Small Mag always waxing lyrical about?
doh get involve in man utd personal affairs nah, stueps ::) :devil:
Whatever. What a loving family.
yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so ::)
daiz why no team is more important to me than our players who play for them
Go Sunderland
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Yeah so ManU say dey rather see de man rot in de stands than play in the Bernabeu...dise how allyuh does treat allyuh people? Dey's de "family" Small Mag always waxing lyrical about?
doh get involve in man utd personal affairs nah, stueps ::) :devil:
Whatever. What a loving family.
yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so ::)
daiz why no team is more important to me than our players who play for them
Go Sunderland
"Take infront before infront take you"
Dise wha Ronaldo doing now.
Dey saying dah dey geh him vex with dat "sit in the stands for a yr" talk.
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since when alyuh care about us :devil: we have two trophies, so alyuh old talk doh mean shit :devil: and it might be more before the end of the year
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Yeah so ManU say dey rather see de man rot in de stands than play in the Bernabeu...dise how allyuh does treat allyuh people? Dey's de "family" Small Mag always waxing lyrical about?
As opposed to club that is traditionally fascist and whose ultras make monkey noises at opposing black players? I doubt you anything about Real Madrids ties to fascism and Franco's dream of a decentralized Spain, do you?
They still have a hardcore fascist fan base.
Man United were never used as a propaganda tool for a fascist dictators own personal ideology...
Do your research before criticising other clubs.
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
you and fergie are probably right, but my point is that I will never support a TEAM over one of our players.
I support where ever our players play.
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Man Utd report Real over Ronaldo
Manchester United have lodged an official complaint with Fifa over Real Madrid's interest in signing their Portugal winger Cristiano Ronaldo.
The English champions have reacted angrily to the Spaniards' persistent courting of the 23-year-old.
"On 27 May, United made clear its intention to report Real Madrid if it continued to involve itself in the future of Ronaldo," a statement read.
"Unfortunately, Real Madrid has not kept its own counsel."
The statement went on: "The club feels it has no alternative but to make a formal complaint to the world governing body, which it has done today.
"The precise content and nature will remain confidential."
A Fifa spokesman added: "I can confirm that we have received an official request from Manchester United to look into the matter.
"We have only just received the documents so we need some time to analyse them before we can make any decision."
The two clubs have been engaged in a war of words over the last month - while comments attributed to the player himself have also fuelled the speculation.
Despite being under contract at Old Trafford until 2012, Ronaldo has refused to state publicly and unequivocally that his future lies with United.
The Red Devils' threat of a complaint to Fifa on 27 May came after Real coach Bernd Schuster claimed Ronaldo was their number one summer transfer target.
Following United's victory over Chelsea in the Champions League final, manager Sir Alex Ferguson accused Real of a "lack of morals", insisted his player was not for sale and criticised Schuster and Madrid club president Ramon Calderon for their attempts to unsettle the player.
"Schuster's talking and Calderon's talking," he said. "Real think they can ride roughshod over everyone, but they won't do it with us. They have no moral issues."
And Ferguson drew a comparison with Real's fierce rivals Barcelona as he fought to draw a line under continuing speculation surrounding the 23-year-old's future.
He said: "In terms of great clubs, Barcelona have far better morality than Real Madrid will ever have. Real use this Marca newspaper as a vehicle to unsettle players.
"Do you not think we have had many expressions of interest about our players from big clubs in Europe?
"Real Madrid are not the only club interested in Ronaldo. But the others are not saying so. They don't get into this nonsense.
"Calderon makes that great statement 'slavery was abolished many years ago'. Did they tell General Franco that? Give me a break.
"The simple fact is Cristiano has another four years left on his contract."
United have sold David Beckham, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Gabriel Heinze to Real in recent years, but Ferguson insisted the case of Ronaldo was different.
He said: "Yes, we sold them Van Nistelrooy and Beckham but we did that because we wanted to."
And Argentine defender Heinze was transferred to Real last summer after failing in a public battle to secure a move to United's arch-rivals Liverpool.
Calderon has denied that his club were trying to unsettle Ronaldo, saying: "We aren't going to start a conflict. If a club doesn't want to sell why would we insist they sell him?"
But Ronaldo was quoted last week as saying that he "would like to play for Real Madrid - but only if they are ready to pay what Manchester United ask of them".
Ferguson had previously said that the club would rather have Ronaldo sitting in the stands than sell him to Real.
But on Sunday, Ronaldo said he had not decided about his future, and would not comment again until after the European Championship.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7416981.stm
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
Preach Fergie ah mean, V1.
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
you and fergie are probably right, but my point is that I will never support a TEAM over one of our players.
I support where ever our players play.
Weary yuh really think 'our players' studing you? You supporting players blindly because they from Trinidad or Tobago, is that all that matters? You must own a lot of thro wey jerseys if that is the case.
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:beermug: Great Article and advice from Ian Wright to Ronaldo
Ian Wright:You've shown no class, Ron
AS a player, there’s no doubt what you’re capable of. As a man, you’re not showing any class whatsoever.
You’re also failing to show any respect to either Alex Ferguson or the Manchester United fans.
To be honest, I’m embarrassed for you.
You’re now 23 and you should not be acting quite so immature.
You’ve been at Old Trafford for five years but it’s only the last two seasons you’ve set the place on fire.
Previous to that, Fergie stuck with you. Despite your diving and despite the fact you would always try to take on a defender rather than pass to a team-mate. When you acted a right winker at the World Cup two years ago, your club manager once again showed extreme loyalty to you, along with United’s fans.
They could have turned on you after your behaviour during the England match in Germany but they didn’t.
You’ve now become one hell of a player — the best on this planet. I’d pay just to see you warm-up, let alone play a game.
But with the drop of a hat, it seems you’re ready to join Real Madrid.
What’s the rush? You’re still so young, for heaven’s sake. Surely you should give United another two years’ service before thinking about heading off to the Bernabeu.
I understand if it’s your dream to play for Real but you owe it to United to be patient — and that’s why you should stay. Doesn’t the affection of United’s fans and your team-mates mean anything to you?
I’m sure you’ve got advisors whispering in your ear but surely you have realised they could only be in it for the money, rather than your personal welfare.
While Real may be tempting you with £300,000 a week after tax, how much money do you actually want? If you stay in Manchester, you could be banking £7.5million a year. It shouldn’t be about money at all, in any case.
At the end of the season, I’d have loved it if you had said ‘I’m not interested in joining Real — I’m happy at United.’
But you didn’t. You gave a smile and said you’d let us know ‘in two or three weeks.’ You may have thought you were being funny but no one was laughing.
Even if you do surprise us and decide to stay at United, I’m not convinced your heart will be in the job. Not after your recent behaviour.
In 12 months’ time, we’ll end up with another similar will-he-leave-or-will-he-stay pantomime. Arsenal had this with Patrick Vieira and it didn’t do anyone any good.
Having a player in this situation is a bit like having a girlfriend who is unhappy. There comes a time when you just have to split.
The whole episode reminds me of when I had the chance to leave the Gunners for Chelsea. At the time I didn’t get on with then-boss Bruce Rioch. But if I’d gone it would have been for a football reason and not money. I never wanted to leave Arsenal and, fortunately for me, Rioch left and I stayed with the club I loved.
Of course, I know you’re not the only one to blame in this.
It seems Real have again shown they have a disregard for other clubs and the rules of football. But they’ll continue to act like this, as long as they’re allowed to get away with it.
It’s a sorry reminder that football can be a real cesspit. I’d love it if you could show some guts and prove us wrong by staying with United.
Sadly, I don’t think you will.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/article1269000.ece
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:violin: :violin:
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Five years at one club is enough.
Variety is the spice of life.
And Spanish women very spicy so let de man do he ting.
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Ian Wright in talking sense shock!
I agree with what he said. Great player but very childish.
United stuck by him when his father died. They gave him time off and even helped his family out to cope with their loss. After the 2006 World Cup the English press and media tried to force him out. united, an English club, stuck by him in the same manner that they stuck by Beckham in '98. It just goes to show what an ungrateful person he is, he would have never gotten that level of support from Madrid.
The only thing he owes United is a little respect and he's not giving that to them.
Great player, but as a person he has no class. But thats the modern footballer for you.
Madrids antics have been absolutely diabolical. United report them to UEFA and their response is to laugh and say that they will launch a bid after Euro 2008. But as long as they are allowed to do things like this, they will. Its a sad indictment on UEFA and Mr. Integrity, Michel Platini that he accuses United and Chelsea of cheating their way to the Champions League final because they pay lots of money for the best players when Madrid are trying their best to unsettle a player of another club with a record breaking transfer deal and salary. I'm getting pretty fed up with it all and I say sell him. United should squeeze every last penny out of Madrid and use that cash to buy another three players who actually want to play for the club. Besides, in a couple years Madrid will get bored with their new toy and go after the next big thing like they always do.
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
you and fergie are probably right, but my point is that I will never support a TEAM over one of our players.
I support where ever our players play.
Weary WestCoast yuh really think 'our players' studing you? You supporting players blindly because they from Trinidad or Tobago, is that all that matters? You must own a lot of thro wey jerseys if that is the case.
Only TnT jerseys baby ;)
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wake me up when all this over :sleepy: :yawning:
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i agree with the venerable one in saying we shud squeeze all the money out of him and buy players (like hargreaves) who want to play for the club. we may never get this kind of money for ronaldo again so i say take it..... UNITED>ronaldo
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it doh make sense keeping him again, he mine not on the club anymore, sell him and take the money, like he get swell headed
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Ian Wright in talking sense shock!
I agree with what he said. Great player but very childish.
United stuck by him when his father died. They gave him time off and even helped his family out to cope with their loss. After the 2006 World Cup the English press and media tried to force him out. united, an English club, stuck by him in the same manner that they stuck by Beckham in '98. It just goes to show what an ungrateful person he is, he would have never gotten that level of support from Madrid.
The only thing he owes United is a little respect and he's not giving that to them.
Great player, but as a person he has no class. But thats the modern footballer for you.
Madrids antics have been absolutely diabolical. United report them to UEFA and their response is to laugh and say that they will launch a bid after Euro 2008. But as long as they are allowed to do things like this, they will. Its a sad indictment on UEFA and Mr. Integrity, Michel Platini that he accuses United and Chelsea of cheating their way to the Champions League final because they pay lots of money for the best players when Madrid are trying their best to unsettle a player of another club with a record breaking transfer deal and salary. I'm getting pretty fed up with it all and I say sell him. United should squeeze every last penny out of Madrid and use that cash to buy another three players who actually want to play for the club. Besides, in a couple years Madrid will get bored with their new toy and go after the next big thing like they always do.
steups, to be honest i am far past the stage where i have any kind of expectations of footballers as role models or as having great personalities, morals or ethics. Those things are only a plus.
You can't please the fans. People want to see their defenders have a cut throat, merciless, aggressive, take no prisoners persona on the field but be the beacon of humanity off of it. Some people would only be happy when Jesus himself come down and kick some ball.
The very same Alex Ferguson allyuh lauding and who is taking every opportunity to brainwash allyuh about all this loyalty shit. What does Ferguson do anytime a non-british player goes through some bumpy patch in their personal lives that is not on his same wavelength??
All this talk about Yorke, Beckham and Van Nistelrooy making the beds they lay in.. Lets not forget that those guys recognized the error of their ways and were begging for second chances as well. It hurt them when they were shown the exit door. Where was the loyalty then?
Fergie's loyalty only extends to Fergie's boys = Giggs, Nevilles, O'Shea, Fletcher.
And listen to this. Doh figure the very day (and it shall come) that Ronaldo endures a patch of poor form or a lowpoint in his career like Ronaldinho, the he won't be sold. Don't think for a second that Fergie and the Glazers would bat an eyelid to take the 75 million pounds that Real Madrid are offering.
Allyuh need to recognize that players are commodities in today's game. This whole concept of loyalty is a farce in my opinion, and belongs to an era that is long gone. If the man want to go then let him go.
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Oh please just take the money already! I enjoyed watching him when he was on but just go already! What is wrong with him saying I want to go I want to stay. At some point it will come down to him not leaving fast enough, so just go already.
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
you and fergie are probably right, but my point is that I will never support a TEAM over one of our players.
I support where ever our players play.
Weary WestCoast yuh really think 'our players' studing you? You supporting players blindly because they from Trinidad or Tobago, is that all that matters? You must own a lot of thro wey jerseys if that is the case.
Only TnT jerseys baby ;)
Sorry about the name.
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
you and fergie are probably right, but my point is that I will never support a TEAM over one of our players.
I support where ever our players play.
Weary WestCoast yuh really think 'our players' studing you? You supporting players blindly because they from Trinidad or Tobago, is that all that matters? You must own a lot of thro wey jerseys if that is the case.
Only TnT jerseys baby ;)
Sorry about the name.
dais orrite man,
I attribute it to the AIG glasses that you wearing :devil:
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yeah, after ALL that Dwight did fa dem.......troway jez so
Do you even know why he was sold?
In his third season it was widely reported that he was spending too much time in Manchester night clubs and turning up late for training. His form and fitness suffered and he subsequently lost his place. When Van Nistelrooy became available, there was no point in keeping him.
Yorke was sold because of his extra curricular activities. Manchester United are not a fete club.
Which is probably why Yorke has come out and made recent comments about Kenwyne Jones. Maybe he's seeing the same thing happening to the fella at Sunderland.
you and fergie are probably right, but my point is that I will never support a TEAM over one of our players.
I support where ever our players play.
Weary WestCoast yuh really think 'our players' studing you? You supporting players blindly because they from Trinidad or Tobago, is that all that matters? You must own a lot of thro wey jerseys if that is the case.
Only TnT jerseys baby ;)
Sorry about the name.
dais orrite man,
I attribute it to the AIG glasses that you wearing :devil:
LOL!
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You can't please the fans. People want to see their defenders have a cut throat, merciless, aggressive, take no prisoners persona on the field but be the beacon of humanity off of it.
Erm...all I was saying that they should show a little more loyalty to the fans and their club. Its the least they could do for the endless support they receive from the masses week in and week out and living their dreams on the pitch rather than piss on them when a club waves some cash in their face. I didn't say they should be divine creatures of holy goodness who do no wrong. Where did I say that? Put your words in someone elses mouth.
The very same Alex Ferguson allyuh lauding and who is taking every opportunity to brainwash allyuh about all this loyalty shit. What does Ferguson do anytime a non-british player goes through some bumpy patch in their personal lives that is not on his same wavelength??
Fergie's loyalty only extends to Fergie's boys = Giggs, Nevilles, O'Shea, Fletcher.
This statement makes no sense. It was already established that he helped Ronaldo through his fathers death and the club assisted his family which blows your theory right out the window. If you want another example, Ferguson did the same when Kanchelskis was having personal problems after his wife lost their first baby. Then there was the Cantona affair when Eric was facing a two week jail term where Ferguson and the club continuously stuck by their man. So much for only looking after 'Fletcher, O'Shea, Giggs etc.'...What about when United initially signed Van Nistelrooy in 2001, only for him to break his leg before he signed a contract and spent a year out injured. Did they pull out of the deal? Did they abandon him? No. They sent their medical personnel over to Holland to work in conjunction with PSV to aid his recuperation and financed a lot of PSVs medical costs themselves and then signed him when he regained fitness.
Yeah, United and Ferguson are truly evil.
All this talk about Yorke, Beckham and Van Nistelrooy making the beds they lay in.. Lets not forget that those guys recognized the error of their ways and were begging for second chances as well. It hurt them when they were shown the exit door. Where was the loyalty then?
Van Nistelrooy was creating disharmony in the dressing room with his feud with Ronaldo and then ran to the media sulking because he was left out of the league cup final questioning the mangers judgment (which seemed inappropriate as United won that cup without him anyway). Thats two instances where his actions were detrimental to the stability of the team. Yorke was WARNED about his nightclubbing , drinking adventures and pornstar dating (Jordan) activities. He was WARNED and ignored those warnings, in fact he responded to those warnings by turning up late for training frequently. Beckham was mostly sold because of his poor form, lack of focus and meddling wife, who went whoring herself to the media saying that 'a move to Madrid would be the best move for David' for the better part of two seasons. Do some fact-checking please. She partly orchestrated the LA Galaxy deal so that she get more exposure in Hollywood.
And listen to this. Doh figure the very day (and it shall come) that Ronaldo endures a patch of poor form or a lowpoint in his career like Ronaldinho, the he won't be sold.
Thats pure guesswork. You don't know what would happen if that were the case. If you do, produce some hard facts to support it. Besides, Ronaldinho's poor form have been the result of his alleged alcoholism.
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
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English Debate: Why Ronaldo Should Leave United
It’s a strange thing to say for a fan of the English Premier League and an admirer of Cristiano Ronaldo. He is, along with Thierry Henry, possible the greatest player in Premier League history, lights up matches week in, week out, and his on-field achievements range from the sublime to the ridiculous.
So why do I think he should leave?
Firstly, he has done all he can do at Manchester United. The Premier League and Champions League double is as good as it gets at club level. He’s won the various English player of the year awards, has taken goalscoring as a wide midfielder to new levels, and most remarkably, has won the adulation of opposition fans who chastised him for months after he played such a prominent part in getting Wayne Rooney sent off at the last world cup.
The second reason is because he has gone on record saying Real Madrid are his boyhood dream. He grew up wishing to become a professional player and to one day possibly have the chance to step on the hallowed Bernabeu turf, in the home kit of all white, and be the matador for the Galacticos. No one should deny a man his wish to fulfil a boyhood ambition, and it’s not as if he hasn’t given his all during every minute he’s worn the Red Devils’ shirt.
But, you might argue, how about what United have done for him? Well, I’d reply by saying that I’m the biggest advocate for loyalty and old fashioned commitment from players towards their clubs. But it’s not as if he grew up a stone’s throw away from the ground and had no other options, and was saved by United from a life on the streets.
Fans beg local players not to leave because they’re hometown heroes, but with a foreign superstar, the situation has to be different. The loyalty - or lack thereof - shouldn’t be compared, because why should a foreigner feel loyal to the club? People like Thierry Henry talk about Arsenal now being in his blood. But if that was the case, he’d have never have left. Paulo Maldini, Francesco Totti or even people like Stewart Downing are the players fans most get attached to. One club men, playing for their boyhood team. It’s when they leave that fans have a real right to kick up a storm.
But not Ronaldo.
This enigmatic superstar was born to entertain the world and it would be fitting to see him move from one of the globe’s two biggest clubs, to the other one, to let him put on a show in another top league. And put on a show he does. He is compulsive viewing, as we all know. He takes Portuguese beach football onto the big arena and just turns on the style. Furthermore, despite oozing class, Ronaldo is as hard a working flair player as the game has even seen.
But United didn’t pluck him from obscurity, did they? He was bound to end up at a big club, and from the moment United’s players first saw him play, and old pros like Ryan Giggs insisted Sir Alex Ferguson sign him up, the Manchester club were up against it, in fending off his other suitors.
Two years ago, it was rumoured that he might be leaving, given the public outcry against him, in the wake of his petulant, spiteful attempts to encourage the sending off of his club teammate Rooney, in the world cup. The public put the England defeat down to him and labelled him a cheat. While his propensity to dive, exaggerate and look generally hard done by, are all things which have understandably far from impressed the British public, his talent has gone from strength to strength, at a far more rapid pace than their very own Rooney.
He has cut down - although not eradicated - the playacting from his game, and has channelled more of his emotions into producing the goods on the pitch. However, he still has some way to go in fully removing the immature showmanship that follows every referee decision against him.
However, such behaviour is less likely to infuriate opposition fans in the Primera Liga, than it does in the Premier League. Artful simulation is more part of the course of a southern European match, and the fans are, in the main, far more forgiving, than they are in Britain. Some Serie A and Primera Liga spectators even condone it, putting it down as a masterful art within the game. The ability to trick and con the referee is a skill performed best by the Ronaldos and Drogbas of this world. But that sentiment is unlikely to ever wash in England. So perhaps, there’s another reason he should go. The ‘spoilt brat’ feeling within him, which boils over whenever he doesn’t get his way, is, on the one hand what drives him onward to succeed, but on the other, his biggest downfall.
But that wouldn’t be such a big issue in Spain, and he knows it.
While Madrid are champions, they’ve not succeeded on the European front in recent years, in the manner that their fans and owners expect. Changing that is a challenge which appeals to Ronaldo, even though his love for United is a bond he’ll find hard to break.
He’s openly flirted with the woman of his lifelong dreams, but is taken by the one who pursued him when he was young. Will she understand if he has to leave to fulfil a dream? I doubt it. But it’s a dream he just has to go for. It’d be cruel to deny him that opportunity.
Oliver Petersen
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
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The Premier League and Champions League double is as good as it gets at club level.
The team of '99 will disagree...
(http://www.skysportsdvdshop.co.uk/images/products/1/MUDVD1.jpg)
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
Really? I watch Real Madrid play week in, week out and have yet to hear any monkey noise directed at Black players. And the last time ManU won a CL trophy before this yr was in 1999 so shut the f*ck up before I have to tell you something bad. I think it's sad that ManU fans are so immature that they need to take everything to heart. You're not passionate fans...you're obssessed fanatics. Get a life.
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Venerable, supposed Cristiano is a fascist to heart that would love to play for such a club... what happens then to your argument?
ps: i will respond to that passionate essay yuh type above when i reach home.
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?
The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
That was how many years ago? ::) ::) ::)
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Really? I watch Real Madrid play week in, week out and have yet to hear any monkey noise directed at Black players.
You're at the Bernabeu for every home game? I salute you.
Oh dear, even Diarra (a Madrid player) has made this fact public. Tsk.
so shut the f*ck up before I have to tell you something bad.
School doesn't finish until July.
I think it's sad that ManU fans are so immature
so shut the f*ck up before I have to tell you something bad.
Immature? See above.
Btw, you do know that 'fan' is an abbreviation of 'fanatic'...right?
:rotfl:
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
That was how many years ago? ::) ::) ::)
Right now.
Google Ultra Sur, a large portion of Real Madrid fans still embrace their ties to Franco...
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Learn to quote properly. And yes, I was well aware of the relationship between fan and fanatic but the statement still stands. Stupid ManU people.
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
That was how many years ago? ::) ::) ::)
Right now.
Google Ultra Sur, a large portion of Real Madrid fans still embrace their ties to Franco...
ANd I'm sure a lot of ManU fans are hooligans and racist and what have you, but that does not stop you from supporting them. So as I said, shut the f*ck up.
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Learn to quote properly. And yes, I was well aware of the relationship between fan and fanatic but the statement still stands. Stupid ManU people.
What are you? 12?
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Learn to quote properly. And yes, I was well aware of the relationship between fan and fanatic but the statement still stands. Stupid ManU people.
What are you? 12?
If I were I'd still be acting twice your age.
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
That was how many years ago? ::) ::) ::)
Right now.
Google Ultra Sur, a large portion of Real Madrid fans still embrace their ties to Franco...
ANd I'm sure a lot of ManU fans are hooligans and racist and what have you, but that does not stop you from supporting them. So as I said, shut the f*ck up.
:rotfl: All clubs have a hooligan element. I never denied that.
But not many of them openly embrace dead fascist dictators...
:rotfl:
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
That was how many years ago? ::) ::) ::)
Right now.
Google Ultra Sur, a large portion of Real Madrid fans still embrace their ties to Franco...
ANd I'm sure a lot of ManU fans are hooligans and racist and what have you, but that does not stop you from supporting them. So as I said, shut the f*ck up.
:rotfl: All clubs have a hooligan element. I never denied that.
But not many of them openly embrace dead fascist dictators...
:rotfl:
Who are you backing for Euro 2008?
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Learn to quote properly. And yes, I was well aware of the relationship between fan and fanatic but the statement still stands. Stupid ManU people.
What are you? 12?
If I were I'd still be acting twice your age.
(http://www.be-a-wahm.com/images/temper-tantrum.jpg)
:rotfl:
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:rotfl: All clubs have a hooligan element. I never denied that.
But not many of them openly embrace dead fascist dictators...
:rotfl:
And your evidence for that is where? And it would be prudent to make a distinction between a minority of fans and the establishment itself and what it seeks to promote. Just be quiet.
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Go Real ;D
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ManU people still crying? steupsssss
About what? Being the current English and European Champions?
When Madrid finally figure out how to get past the quarter final stage (something they have failed to do in the last four seasons) in the Champions League, come back and have a discussion.
:-)
I'd rather support United than a club that has ties to fascist organisations (past and present!) and whose fans regularly make moneky noises at black players.
What does that have to do with anything?? Someone is very bitter....
Monkey noises at black players doesn't matter?
Having a ties to fascism doesn't matter?The Catalans don't just hate them because of their success. I suggest you read into things a little more...
Ok then...
Some people either don't check their facts or just simply don't like what they hear...
That was how many years ago? ::) ::) ::)
Right now.
Google Ultra Sur, a large portion of Real Madrid fans still embrace their ties to Franco...
ANd I'm sure a lot of ManU fans are hooligans and racist and what have you, but that does not stop you from supporting them. So as I said, shut the f*ck up.
:rotfl: All clubs have a hooligan element. I never denied that.
But not many of them openly embrace dead fascist dictators...
:rotfl:
Who are you backing for Euro 2008?
Holland.
Last nights performance wasn't just a convincing performance but a statement of purpose. I think they have what it takes.
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:rotfl: All clubs have a hooligan element. I never denied that.
But not many of them openly embrace dead fascist dictators...
:rotfl:
And your evidence for that is where? And it would be prudent to make a distinction between a minority of fans and the establishment itself and what it seeks to promote. Just be quiet.
Real Madrid and Fascism
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article393494.ece
http://forum.fcbarcelonaweb.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11023
http://www.ilrmagazine.com/article/issue3_ar7.php
I can list you some books if you like.
Monkey Chants
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060129/ai_n16037786
Hardcore fans of Real Madrid, called the Ultra Surs, are sure to subject Arsenal players to catcalls when the two clubs meet in Madrid in February. The Arsenal striker, Thierry Henry, was called a "black shit" by the Spanish national coach, Luis Aragons, in an overheard conversation with another of the club's players, Jos Antonio Reyes, during training. But Aragons kept his job, and will lead Spain into the World Cup this summer.
http://forum.fcbarcelonaweb.co.uk/lofiversion/index.php?t3075.html
Perez warns against Eto'o inclusion
tribalfootball.com - November 7, 2005
Real Madrid president warned FC Barcelona about fielding Cameroon striker Sam Eto'o for th all important deby clash in two weeks time.
"After the Getafe display, I don't want to see Eto'o at the Bernabuae,
its not because I'm afraid he will score multiple goals gainst us at all,
He added: "Our crowds are use to our blacks we have in the team. Most are fair-skinned Brazilan's anyway. Eto'o is just too dark. Like Makelele, we sold him too.
"We are using the footage from the Barca game for the sequel to "goal!". it will impossible to edit all the Schawastiger's you'll see in our crowd if Eto'o is played.
Enough? Or you want more?
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Idiot, I said you should distinguish between what some fans partake in and the Club itself.
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:devil: :devil:
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Idiot, I said you should distinguish between what some fans partake in and the Club itself.
Looks like you skimmed through the entire thing.
Including former Real president Perez URGING Barca not to play Etoo against them at the Bernebau for fear of racist chanting, swastika flag waving and monkey chants for a fixture there.
You ignore the fact that the Ultra Sur (Franco lovers) are still allowed to attend games without fear or restriction because essentially, Madrid is still a fascist club which Franco used as a propaganda tool during his reign.
I doubt you even knew who the Ultra Sur were before today.
:-)
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Idiot, I said you should distinguish between what some fans partake in and the Club itself.
Looks like you skimmed through the entire thing.
Including former Real president Perez URGING Barca not to play Etoo against them at the Bernebau for fear of racist chanting, swastika flag waving and monkey chants for a fixture there.
You ignore the fact that the Ultra Sur (Franco lovers) are still allowed to attend games without fear or restriction because essentially, Madrid is still a fascist club which Franco used as a propaganda tool during his reign.
I doubt you even knew who the Ultra Sur were before today.
:-)
doh fall for dem haters tactics, that is all they does do, rile the man utd faithful up, she and mango chow is the heads lol , i aint know why Toppa causing so much trouble nah ::) :devil:
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Idiot, I said you should distinguish between what some fans partake in and the Club itself.
Looks like you skimmed through the entire thing.
Including former Real president Perez URGING Barca not to play Etoo against them at the Bernebau for fear of racist chanting, swastika flag waving and monkey chants for a fixture there.
You ignore the fact that the Ultra Sur (Franco lovers) are still allowed to attend games without fear or restriction because essentially, Madrid is still a fascist club which Franco used as a propaganda tool during his reign.
I doubt you even knew who the Ultra Sur were before today.
:-)
the hater calling u names too yes - like side like supporter :devil: :devil:
careful or he might start to chant just now
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You can't please the fans. People want to see their defenders have a cut throat, merciless, aggressive, take no prisoners persona on the field but be the beacon of humanity off of it.
Erm...all I was saying that they should show a little more loyalty to the fans and their club. Its the least they could do for the endless support they receive from the masses week in and week out and living their dreams on the pitch rather than piss on them when a club waves some cash in their face. I didn't say they should be divine creatures of holy goodness who do no wrong. Where did I say that? Put your words in someone elses mouth.[/b]
Lol.. endless support from the masses? The same masses who was cussing him breathless for winking at the world cup? What about the masses at Sporting Lisbon? You weren't throwing your toys out of the pram when he was pissing on them as soon as Manchester United came with their pounds sterling right?
He left Lisbon for a bigger challenge at Man United. And now he wants to leave Manchester United for what he feels is a bigger challenge at Real Madrid. Despite their dearth of recent successes, Real Madrid are arguably the biggest club in the world. I put that in bold because you seem not to know the difference between a big 'club' and a big 'side'. Not too hard to comprehend really.
The very same Alex Ferguson allyuh lauding and who is taking every opportunity to brainwash allyuh about all this loyalty shit. What does Ferguson do anytime a non-british player goes through some bumpy patch in their personal lives that is not on his same wavelength??
Fergie's loyalty only extends to Fergie's boys = Giggs, Nevilles, O'Shea, Fletcher.
This statement makes no sense. It was already established that he helped Ronaldo through his fathers death and the club assisted his family which blows your theory right out the window. If you want another example, Ferguson did the same when Kanchelskis was having personal problems after his wife lost their first baby. Then there was the Cantona affair when Eric was facing a two week jail term where Ferguson and the club continuously stuck by their man. So much for only looking after 'Fletcher, O'Shea, Giggs etc.'...What about when United initially signed Van Nistelrooy in 2001, only for him to break his leg before he signed a contract and spent a year out injured. Did they pull out of the deal? Did they abandon him? No. They sent their medical personnel over to Holland to work in conjunction with PSV to aid his recuperation and financed a lot of PSVs medical costs themselves and then signed him when he regained fitness.
Yeah, United and Ferguson are truly evil.[/b]
Trying to garner brownie points for Man United giving Ronaldo and his family support through his father's death is akin to a father beating his chest and boasting, "I take care of my kids!". Its what they're expected to do!!
I work a 9 to 5 and I aint the most indispensable employee at the firm, but I would expect my company to be supportive in such circumstances. Far less when you have the franchise player on your roster. And as for your references re: Cantona and Kanchelskis;, the club's decisions are as much noble gestures as they are business decisions. You look at the player you have, his long term value to the club and determine the course of action. Even Newcastle are being patient with Joey Barton's (of all people) indiscretions. Its better and more cost effective than taking a loss and kicking him to the curb in the long run.
My point about Fletcher, the Nevilles and Giggs etc is a personal pet peeve I have with Fergie. Apart from Giggs, he's all too willing to keep these shitongs on his roster but quick to buss big players throat like Stam at the first sign of fire. I won't forget how long he persisted with a clearly ageing and past his prime Roy Keane and played Veron out of position thereby stifling his career.
But like I said, thats personal.
All this talk about Yorke, Beckham and Van Nistelrooy making the beds they lay in.. Lets not forget that those guys recognized the error of their ways and were begging for second chances as well. It hurt them when they were shown the exit door. Where was the loyalty then?
Van Nistelrooy was creating disharmony in the dressing room with his feud with Ronaldo and then ran to the media sulking because he was left out of the league cup final questioning the mangers judgment (which seemed inappropriate as United won that cup without him anyway). Thats two instances where his actions were detrimental to the stability of the team. Yorke was WARNED about his nightclubbing , drinking adventures and pornstar dating (Jordan) activities. He was WARNED and ignored those warnings, in fact he responded to those warnings by turning up late for training frequently. Beckham was mostly sold because of his poor form, lack of focus and meddling wife, who went whoring herself to the media saying that 'a move to Madrid would be the best move for David' for the better part of two seasons. Do some fact-checking please. She partly orchestrated the LA Galaxy deal so that she get more exposure in Hollywood.
I have my facts partner. After the whole scenario with Yorke when he was parked on the bench, he refused to be traded to Middlesborough. He worked hard in the reserves and cut out the shenanigans trying to force his way back into the reckoning. Fergie was having none of it.
Van Nistelrooy stepped out of line with the Ronaldo feud but I would have like to see Fergie sort out his differences with a 40 goal a season striker rather than show him the exit door. They took a while to recover from that.
Your fact about Beckham just strengthens another criticism of Ferguson of wanting to be too involved in his players' private lives. Beckham only warmed to Madrid after he get a boot to face. It seems like Ferguson mellowing though. Ronaldo could brush all the hos in the world as long as he putting the ball in the back of the net right?
And listen to this. Doh figure the very day (and it shall come) that Ronaldo endures a patch of poor form or a lowpoint in his career like Ronaldinho, the he won't be sold.
Thats pure guesswork. You don't know what would happen if that were the case. If you do, produce some hard facts to support it. Besides, Ronaldinho's poor form have been the result of his alleged alcoholism.
Now you contradicting yourself because we just discussed the marquee players that were sold for a variety of contributing factors to poor form and you calling it guesswork. Regardless of what contributes to the poor form, be it alcoholism, lifestyle, blight, feud... whatever it is I am saying that Ronaldo WILL get sold in a heart beat for that same big money that is inconsequential now.
You really think the Glazers love "soccer" so much. Football is a business for them and players are commodities. There is no such thing as loyalty.
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Sell him...the Bucks need better players..... cayr let NY win again....
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There is no such thing as loyalty.
Giggs
Scholes
Maldini
Neville
Xavi
Cantona
And those are just a few...
Players who turned down the chance to play for double of what they currently earned to stay with their club.
The same masses who was cussing him breathless for winking at the world cup?
So wait...every single England fan and his dog are United fans now? Man Utd stood by him. Fans OF MANCHESTER UNITED stood by him. Remember how they kept singing his name at the beginning 2006/07 season with chants of "You can stick your f**kin' England up your arse". United fans have always been dubious of the national team and its fans. What? You've never heard of The Republic of Mancunia. Its not just a football thing either, its historical. There is a genuine dislike of the national side in Manchester.
You weren't throwing your toys out of the pram when he was pissing on them as soon as Manchester United came with their pounds sterling right?
I don't throw my toys out of the pram over friendlies which was where he tore us to pieces in a 3-1 win for Sporting Lisbon. But regardless of that, I'm not allowed to appreciate someones talent if they play for an opposing side? Stop trying to guess what I would have done or will do. ::)
Real Madrid are arguably the biggest club in the world. I put that in bold because you seem not to know the difference between a big 'club' and a big 'side'. Not too hard to comprehend really.
Well let me put this in bold for you...
Manchester United European Champions 2008
Not too hard to comprehend really.
So Man United only have a big side but are not a big club? Ok then. Looks like we have a post-98 football fan in our midst. Madrid are the most well marketed club in the world. In '98 they were champions of Europe, that was their FIRST EUROPEAN CUP WIN SINCE 1966. So don't think they've been dominating Europe since the beginning of European football. The same can be said of United in '99, their first European title since '68 but then we aren't claiming that United are biggest and best club in the world are we?
If you're going to say that United just have a bunch of decent players but aren't a big club, then you can't expect people to take you seriously. Theres not a football fan on the planet who doesn't know who United are.
Trying to garner brownie points for Man United giving Ronaldo and his family support through his father's death is akin to a father beating his chest and boasting, "I take care of my kids!". Its what they're expected to do!!
Hahaha, let me focus on this statement for a bit because you're contradicting yourself.
First off, your analogy is all wrong. Players are employees, not next of kin. Two completely different things. Besides, you said:
Fergie's loyalty only extends to Fergie's boys = Giggs, Nevilles, O'Shea, Fletcher.
I disproved that by stating the fact about Fergie and the clubs reaction to his fathers death. Thats not chest beating, thats proving a point. Or maybe you regard someone who offers a counter argument to your own as chestbeating. Who knows
I work a 9 to 5 and I aint the most indispensable employee at the firm, but I would expect my company to be supportive in such circumstances. Far less when you have the franchise player on your roster. And as for your references re: Cantona and Kanchelskis;, the club's decisions are as much noble gestures as they are business decisions. You look at the player you have, his long term value to the club and determine the course of action. Even Newcastle are being patient with Joey Barton's (of all people) indiscretions. Its better and more cost effective than taking a loss and kicking him to the curb in the long run.
My point about Fletcher, the Nevilles and Giggs etc is a personal pet peeve I have with Fergie. Apart from Giggs, he's all too willing to keep these shitongs on his roster but quick to buss big players throat like Stam at the first sign of fire. I won't forget how long he persisted with a clearly ageing and past his prime Roy Keane and played Veron out of position thereby stifling his career.
You like analogies? Heres one.
With regards to Stam.
An employee writes a book about his company and his fellow employees whereby he makes a claim that certain other co-workers are not very bright and that they have questionable personal lives. Not only that, he criticises his boss and the company he works for and expects to keep his job regardless, even after degrading people associated with the club publicly. Company does what any other company would do and fire him.
and played Veron out of position thereby stifling his career.
Noone stifled anyones career. What bullshit. So if a club buy a player for a particular position and to play a particular role and it doesn't work out, aren't they allowed to try him somewhere else? If the club realise that a player no longer fits in with their plans, aren't they allowed to let him go? United aren't allowed to sell players now? Playing players out of position is wrong? It happens every week, you're obviously watching a different game. Veron signed for United, it didn't work out because his style of play was not suitable for English football and was sold. There was no animosity, both parties agreed to the transfer. Jesus.
he persisted with a clearly ageing and past his prime Roy Keane
Again, this has nothing to do with anything. If the manager decides to select a player who is old and isn't as good as he used to be then so what? Fans may not agree with i, but its his decision. He picks the team. I don't see how thats related to 'offloading players in a cut-throat manner'. Fletcher and O'Shea hardly started a game last season and are mostly fringe players. You make it sound as though they were picked every week. That wasn't the case. Check the stats, they rarely started a game (unless there were injuries or when players were rested)
Let me end this once and for all:
Beckham - Interfering wife who was doing her best to orchestrate a move away, focusing too much on the glamor lifestyle, loss of form on the pitch = Sold
Yorke - Nightclubbing, pornstars, turning up late for training despite being WARNED about it = Sold
Van Nistelrooy - Making fun of a players dad who had recently died, training ground fracas with said player, sulking to the media when not selected, creating disharmony within the team = Sold
Now, when you work in a normal job...aren't those things grounds for dismissal?
I have my facts partner. After the whole scenario with Yorke when he was parked on the bench, he refused to be traded to Middlesborough. He worked hard in the reserves and cut out the shenanigans trying to force his way back into the reckoning. Fergie was having none of it.
Like I said.
He broke some rules. Was WARNED...and then broke them again.
How many chances do you think he should have had?
Van Nistelrooy stepped out of line with the Ronaldo feud but I would have like to see Fergie sort out his differences with a 40 goal a season striker rather than show him the exit door.
We've been through this already time and time again. Its no just ONE thing he did but a number of things. The club still played him and tried to sort things out but when he wasn't picked for the league cup final, he ran to the media and created even more fuss.
They took a while to recover from that.
Yeah, United won the league the following season. We've won two championships and a European title since he left.
We're really struggling to cope.
:rotfl:
Your fact about Beckham just strengthens another criticism of Ferguson of wanting to be too involved in his players' private lives.
Well, you're just contradicting yourself now (again). Didn't you just say players are business assets? Doesn't a company take particular interest in its assests/properties? But let me just shoot this down, Ferguson wasn't 'too involved' in his personal life. When a player is putting more effort into tv ads, attending movie premieres and doing magazine photoshoots for GQ when he is woefully off form (as he was in the 2002/2003 season which resulted in Solskjaer being played on the right flank instead of him), don't you think the manager (and the 'company') has a right to be concerned over a players extra-curricular activities and the effects it will have on his form.
Having a wife like Posh doesn't help either. Not when she influences her husband to make career decisions that will undoubtedly enhance her own.
Beckham only warmed to Madrid after he get a boot to face.
You forget that the previous summer his wife indicated that 'David would like to play abroad at some point in his career'. The wheels were in motion long before that. The boot incident was an accident, Beckham even stated that.
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United In Frame For Ramos And Robinho Bids
The story, in Marca, does appear far-fetched when the fact that Ramos could cost as much as €65m and his Brazilian team-mate would weigh in at a further €45m.
Robinho's desire to sort out his future at the Bernabéu has seen him linked to a move away from the Spanish giants this summer and sizeable offer could still see a move pushed through.
Having been a key player in the clubs two successive titles, the 24-year-old has demanded to be put on the same salary as the club's top earners, but no new deal has been reached.
Ramos' link to United is more tenuous given that he has stated that he would be willing to end his career there and Madrid have stated they will not sell.
But according to the player's agent, Pedro Bravo, the English champions have made their interest known and that has been passed on to Madrid's sporting director Predrag Mijatovic.
After the Red Devils' denunciation of Madrid over the Cristiano Ronaldo affair, Marca must recognise that their name will be at the forefront of any investigation.
The Portuguese star has still refused to say either way what he wants to do next season and could be holding out for a move to Madrid or pushing United for yet another pay rise.
Lucas Brown, Goal.com
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FIFA Go With Madrid On Ronaldo
FIFA have told Manchester United in no uncertain terms to quit complaining about Real Madrid’s attempts to lure Cristiano Ronaldo from Old Trafford…
The Red Devils lodged an official complaint last week regarding the manner in which los Merengues have approached the Portugal superstar, who spurred his country to victory against the Czech Republic yesterday.
Sir Alex Ferguson and co believe the Spanish giants have been tapping-up their prize winger, with recent revelations suggesting Real have been in contact with Ronaldo and his agent for several months.
But los Blancos have refused to admit to any foul play on their part – and world football’s governing body has sided with the La Liga champions.
A spokesman for the FIFA executive committee said: “United’s chances of getting Real punished are zero.
“I think everyone knows that these things go on in football but proving any wrongdoing is next to impossible.
“Real are very powerful and I don’t think they’ll be too worried about United’s claims.”
Mickey
The sordid saga has not been helped by the man in the middle of it all, as Ronaldo has failed to commit his future one way or the other.
And ex-United winger Gordon Hill believes the 23-year-old's behaviour on and off the pitch has made a mockery of the club and its traditions.
“It looks like there’s been something cooking for months,” he said. “What pees me off is that meanwhile they grab the shirt and they grab the badge. That takes the mickey.”
Getting back to the issue at hand, with FIFA having washed their hands off this subject, and Ronaldo and Madrid keen on the reunion (as apparent from their daily reminders), the chances of Manchester United holding on to the winger are growing slimmer by the day.
Mike Maguire
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I Prefer Wearing A White Jersey - Ronaldo
Portugal and Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has dropped another bombshell as he insists he likes wearing a white football kit.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=732753
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I Prefer Wearing A White Jersey - Ronaldo
Portugal and Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has dropped another bombshell as he insists he likes wearing a white football kit.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=732753
He talkin' 'bout de one Portugal wear yesterday. He prefer dat over de red and green one. ;D
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Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos has admitted that he is flattered by Manchester United's reported interest.
On Thursday, it was claimed that United were monitoring the Spain international's situation at the Bernabeu as manager Sir Alex Ferguson lines up a long-term replacement for Gary Neville.
Ramos' brother, Rene, moved to play down the speculation, and the 22-year-old right-back has reiterated those comments, insisting he is happy with his current deal at Real.
"It is a good sign that such big teams are interested in me, but not I have no ideas about that (a transfer)," Ramos told Marca.
Meeting
"I have a good contract with Madrid and I am focussed on the Spanish team. When the European Championships finish we can see what happens."
Ramos' agent, Pedro Bravo, did admit that reports of him having recently travelled to England were true, but did not reveal whether he had met with United officials.
"One thing I would ask is what clubs are not interested in a player like Sergio Ramos?" Bravo said.
"It is true that on Monday I was in England. I have a good relationship with Manchester United."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3685014,00.html
Wouldnt be fanf**kingtastic If we sign Ramos and Ronaldo declares he's staying lol
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
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Wouldn't mind having Robinho at United. Not too sure about Ramos, whenever I've seen him play he's either getting sent off or on his way to getting sent off...although he seems to have improved in the last year or so.
United should go for Richards. With that mentalist Thaksin at Man City, they might be able to get him too...
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I Prefer Wearing A White Jersey - Ronaldo
Portugal and Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo has dropped another bombshell as he insists he likes wearing a white football kit.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=732753
"I like wearing a white shirt...the white shirt of Portugal that is"
Thats what he said.
Hardly a bombshell, he's clearly toying with the media there...
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
time will tell :devil:
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
time will tell :devil:
Righto.
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
time will tell :devil:
Righto.
i know yuh vex we is Champions yuh know, doh worry next season yuh will get alyuh chance again :D
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When CR on he does looks good and was enjoyable to watch, so if the little f^cker go his skills will be missed. If he stays it will be interesting to see how the fans react to him.
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
What you should be asking is 'Do Madrid have anyone that United need?'...
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
What you should be asking is 'Do Madrid have anyone that United need?'...
C Ronaldo.
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AC Milan make Adebayor approach
BBC Sport
AC Milan have revealed they have made Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor their sole transfer target and are trying to negotiate a deal with the London club.
As well as Adebayor, 24, who signed a long-term deal in 2007, AC Milan have been linked with Spurs forward Dimitar Berbatov and Chelsea's Didier Drogba.
But AC Milan vice president Adriano Galliani told L'Equipe: "If Adebayor doesn't come then nobody will come.
"We are in negotiations but Arsenal are unwilling to sell at the moment."
The Rossoneri are keen to sign a striker following the departure of Alberto Gilardino to Fiorentina and a serious injury to Ronaldo.
And Galliani said at the beginning of June that Drogba, Berbatov, Barcelona's Samuel Eto'o and Stuttgart's Mario Gomez were all on Milan's wish-list along with Adebayor.
But now the Milan vice president has claimed the club will put all their efforts into convincing Arsenal to part with their 24-year-old Togo forward.
"One single player interests us and that is Emmanuel Adebayor," he added.
Arsenal are reluctant to sell their star forward, who last season found the net 30 times in 48 outings, and Adebayor has repeatedly committed his future to Arsenal.
Another sticking point for Milan could be the fact they have failed to qualify for next season's Champions League.
But Galliani was adamant the Italian club will continue to chase Adebayor until they are convinced they can do no more to persuade Arsenal to sell.
Should Adebayor be tempted to move to the Serie A club he will be reunited with French midfielder Matthieu Flamini who left Arsenal for AC Milan in May.
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Adebayor has no right near a Serie A team...IMHO
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I don't really bizniz if Adebayor is good enough quality for AC or any other team, don't care about AC on the whole cuz i'm Juventus all the way. What suprise me the most in this story...is that they said Adebayor is the SOLE target. I have no clue what the average age of this team is...but they damn sure need to bring in at least 4-5 younger players. Gattuso, Maldini, Cafu, Ambrosini, Nesta and the rest up there in age at this time and they can't take forever to replace them.
Following Serie A all these years I know AC is ah team don't overhaul every summer like a Real Madrid or dem joke side does do, they does add piece by piece, but at some point you have to say we need fresh blood. Even with a young Pato, Adebayor, Kaka as the front 3...what about the old legs behind them? Its time for the GREAT Maldini and Cafu and them kinda men to ride as far as I see, but I repeat...Juve all the way...so then again keep allyuh old men. blessed
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yes, go throw yuh frame...
Milan better take out some indemnity insurance for the amount of sh** he'll put down on the San Siro
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Adebayor has no right near a Serie A team...IMHO
ah love it!!
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What suprise me the most in this story...is that they said Adebayor is the SOLE target. I have no clue what the average age of this team is...but they damn sure need to bring in at least 4-5 younger players. Gattuso, Maldini, Cafu, Ambrosini, Nesta and the rest up there in age at this time and they can't take forever to replace them.
I think they mean in the forward line. Cause they've already signed Flamini and Zambrotta (the AC Milan followers can probably name more).
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Once we get more than +15 million for him lewwe sell him and make some change yes.
He had one good season and even dat he had a drought coming down to the end. If he want to leave let him ride.
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world’s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United’s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him — as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world’s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry’s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player — who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club — has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo’s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that’s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson’s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called ‘Viva Ronaldo’.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
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:whistling: :yapping:
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Adebayor has no right near a Serie A team...IMHO
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Adebayor has no right near a Serie A team...IMHO
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
where FLi ! ;D
he chase de flickin man oui ;D ;D
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Adebayor has no right near a Serie A team...IMHO
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
where FLi ! ;D
LOL! He gone and chase the man from the EPL! Ah wonder if he will start a similar campain to oust him once he go to Serie A? He might end up chasing the man back to Africa!
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is time we start theifing some of Madrid players :devil: see how they like it ;D
How many people would willingly leave Real to go to ManU?
Or hor.
What you should be asking is 'Do Madrid have anyone that United need?'...
C Ronaldo.
Signed him have they?
:rotfl:
Ronaldo signed a new contract deal last year. Now he wants to tear it up?
If he was sure of going, then why sign it at all.
I think United should ask for 60 million plus Robinho or Sneidjer...
Deco was easily the best player for Portugal yesterday. In a game where everyone expected Ronaldo to step up to the plate, he didn't. I also thought Lahm and Ballack were fantastic. Nani achieved more in 15 minutes than Ronaldo did in 90...
I say cash him in now. He's already said that he is 'not worried about how the fans feel or who he upsets' because this is what 'he wants'...
Let him go. Let him go the best marketed and most unstable team in the World where they change their manager every two seasons...
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world’s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United’s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him — as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world’s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry’s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player — who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club — has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo’s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that’s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson’s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called ‘Viva Ronaldo’.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
weeeeeeeeey sah! call de man "supposedly" the best player in de world and a "one-trick pony" yes.......
(I eh so sure 'bout manu being the greatest team in the world, though. That is very much a stretch.) but look how quick the man stock looking to drop all of a sudden now he want to go somewhere else fuh more money. Watch all de manu fans turn on 'im now. :rotfl:
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world’s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United’s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him — as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world’s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry’s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player — who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club — has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo’s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that’s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson’s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called ‘Viva Ronaldo’.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
weeeeeeeeey sah! call de man "supposedly" the best player in de world and a "one-trick pony" yes.......
(I eh so sure 'bout manu being the greatest team in the world, though. That is very much a stretch.) but look how quick the man stock looking to drop all of a sudden now he want to go somewhere else fuh more money. Watch all de manu fans turn on 'im now. :rotfl:
Errr...United fans have always given ex-players warm receptions except for people like Ince (who engineered his move to Inter Milan behind the clubs back) and Kanchelskis (faked injuries and went AWOL just to get a move). The reason why they'll turn on him is his blatant disregard for the fans during his last interview where he basically said that he 'didn't care how they felt'. He will fit in well at Madrid.
Noone is bigger than the club. Ronaldo thinks he is and thats the problem. United were there long before Ronaldo and they'll still be there long after he's gone.
As for the best team in the world, well...
I think a certain game in Moscow answers that question.
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Fli is really a scout 4 AC
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world’s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United’s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him — as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world’s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry’s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player — who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club — has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo’s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that’s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson’s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called ‘Viva Ronaldo’.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
weeeeeeeeey sah! call de man "supposedly" the best player in de world and a "one-trick pony" yes.......
(I eh so sure 'bout manu being the greatest team in the world, though. That is very much a stretch.) but look how quick the man stock looking to drop all of a sudden now he want to go somewhere else fuh more money. Watch all de manu fans turn on 'im now. :rotfl:
Is about acting with some flickin class. He is entitled to move to Spain because God knows when yuh time up with Fergie yuh time up, but the way Ronaldo went about it and has gone about it was classless and gutless. He knew he wanted tuh leave and instead of ending the speculation he choose to say nothing one way or the other. Yeah the fans will turn on him and rightly so. Speking about loyalty, yuh buy yuh 'I love Jose' AC shirt yet? LOL!
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world’s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United’s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him — as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world’s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry’s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player — who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club — has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo’s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that’s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson’s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called ‘Viva Ronaldo’.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
weeeeeeeeey sah! call de man "supposedly" the best player in de world and a "one-trick pony" yes.......
(I eh so sure 'bout manu being the greatest team in the world, though. That is very much a stretch.) but look how quick the man stock looking to drop all of a sudden now he want to go somewhere else fuh more money. Watch all de manu fans turn on 'im now. :rotfl:
like yuh didnt see he pony trick yesterday :D
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world`s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United`s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him ? as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world`s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry`s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player ? who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club ? has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo`s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that`s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson`s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called `Viva Ronaldo`.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
weeeeeeeeey sah! call de man "supposedly" the best player in de world and a "one-trick pony" yes.......
(I eh so sure 'bout manu being the greatest team in the world, though. That is very much a stretch.) but look how quick the man stock looking to drop all of a sudden now he want to go somewhere else fuh more money. Watch all de manu fans turn on 'im now. :rotfl:
Errr...United fans have always given ex-players warm receptions except for people like Ince (who engineered his move to Inter Milan behind the clubs back) and Kanchelskis (faked injuries and went AWOL just to get a move). The reason why they'll turn on him is his blatant disregard for the fans during his last interview where he basically said that he 'didn't care how they felt'. He will fit in well at Madrid.
Noone is bigger than the club. Ronaldo thinks he is and thats the problem. United were there long before Ronaldo and they'll still be there long after he's gone.
As for the best team in the world, well...
I think a certain game in Moscow answers that question.
I just find it funny that when a team wants to make a move that's in its own best interests they can do so as they please, when they please but when it comes to a player wanting to do the same (get P-P-P-PAID!!) now everybody want to talk about "loyalty" and "class" and all that stuff. As far as his comments are cncerned, I wouldn't put it past him to have said it as a calculating move. More often than not, the only recourse players have is to act "disgruntled" and become disgruntled in order to facilitate whatever move to whatever team they're trying to obtain........especially when you're dealing with a manager like fergie and one knows how he's likely to handle the situation himself.
As for that one game in Moscow, I think when a writer uses the word "greatest" do describe a team or an athlete, he or she is intending to cover a greater span of time than just one game or even one season. Seems to me he's putting the description in a more historic proportion than just one season, and even so, if it's just this one season he's talking about, don't manu still have to win against other teams from the other confederations before he coronate them so?
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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!! This writer hit the nail on the head!
Big-time Charlie has most to lose By NEIL CUSTIS
Published: Today: THE SUN NEWSPAPER
MANCHESTER United have seen legends come and go but never have they let a player leave they want to keep. So why does Cristiano Ronaldo believe he can dictate his future now?
After a shocking performance from the supposed world’s best player last night he said his future at Old Trafford was over.
What a sickening message to Sir Alex Ferguson who turned a one-trick pony into the player he is today.
Perhaps he has underestimated the power of the man who is adamant he will not sell to United’s greatest challengers in European football.
Better Fergie gets him back to Carrington and tells him straight Old Trafford is the best place for him — as it is.
United do not need to sell and do not want to sell.
If the petulance of this youth means they have to then more fool him.
United will go on without Ronaldo. What he risks is his place in the folklore of the world’s greatest club.
He has been at the club five years and had two good seasons.
Compare that to the Holy Trinity of Best, Law and Charlton and more recently such as Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Their names will live for ever but if Ronaldo forces this move his will be forgotten tomorrow.
For too long the Portuguese international has tried to be bigger than the club. Witness the moment United won their third European Cup.
As the whole squad ran to embrace the real hero of the night, Edwin van der Sar, Ronaldo set off.
But realising it was not all about him he stopped and fell to the ground supposedly in tears.
They should have been tears of relief not joy having missed the penalty that would have cost United a season of toil but for John Terry’s slip.
Instead of focusing on a true professional like Van der Sar the cameras sadly went to a big-time Charlie.
We should still be talking about that incredible Double now.
Instead a player — who has lived on the back of United rather than enhanced the stature of the club — has taken the headlines away from the heroics of that night.
Almost immediately we were talking about Ronaldo’s future.
How United fans must have wished Roy Keane was still around to give this guy his opinion.
But that’s the point.
The coward never talks about leaving during the season when he is in Ferguson’s charge.
On Wednesday when he was pushed in his Press conference to address United fans about his position he talked about respecting a Portuguese request not to talk about his future.
What about the respect he should show to Alex Ferguson and United fans who even made up a song called ‘Viva Ronaldo’.
Go if you want. But no true United fan will lament the passing of a big-time Charlie who graced the stage for an instant where others will be remembered for ever.
weeeeeeeeey sah! call de man "supposedly" the best player in de world and a "one-trick pony" yes.......
(I eh so sure 'bout manu being the greatest team in the world, though. That is very much a stretch.) but look how quick the man stock looking to drop all of a sudden now he want to go somewhere else fuh more money. Watch all de manu fans turn on 'im now. :rotfl:
like yuh didnt see he pony trick yesterday :D
Ah take it he dead tuh you Die Hard? Ah wonder who bun the United# 7 jersey already or who uisng it tuh polish dey car or bikes?
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
Doh mind dem, Omar, cough cough, Boss. Some of them are extreme beyond reason. Giggsy is was cronaldo BIGGEST fan up to a week ago yuh hear me? Hear when ah tell yuh dat!!
If they would be honest and consistent in their reasoning and evaluation all along they wouldn't be looking like women scorned right now. Dey go be arright, though. fergie go giddem a nex idol to worship.
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first Ronaldo not Adebayor
AC Milan is ah Labasse or wha, how dem only collecting garbage so???
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
Doh mind dem, Omar, cough cough, Boss. Some of them are extreme beyond reason. Giggsy is was cronaldo BIGGEST fan up to a week ago yuh hear me? Hear when ah tell yuh dat!!
If they would be honest and consistent in their reasoning and evaluation all along they wouldn't be looking like women scorned right now. Dey go be arright, though. fergie go giddem a nex idol to worship.
Chow, haul yuh arse! I have never pushed myself as Ronaldo's biggest fan. I have always stated I am a fan but I have also called him on his shit. I am still a fan of his talent but I am not a fan of how he handled this situation I think that is why most United fans have turned on him. Oh yeah still haul yuh arse !
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
Doh mind dem, Omar, cough cough, Boss. Some of them are extreme beyond reason. Giggsy is was cronaldo BIGGEST fan up to a week ago yuh hear me? Hear when ah tell yuh dat!!
If they would be honest and consistent in their reasoning and evaluation all along they wouldn't be looking like women scorned right now. Dey go be arright, though. fergie go giddem a nex idol to worship.
Small Mag is a man used to watch EPL highlights then go and jock he wood in the shower..
Now this venerable one fellah trying he best to attach reason and rationale to what can be expressed in simple terms as a solid BUTT of the type only mountain goats in the Andes capable of administering.. I have to applaud de fellah efforts though..
Wha dey worried about though..
they have Nani!! :rotfl:
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
Doh mind dem, Omar, cough cough, Boss. Some of them are extreme beyond reason. Giggsy is was cronaldo BIGGEST fan up to a week ago yuh hear me? Hear when ah tell yuh dat!!
If they would be honest and consistent in their reasoning and evaluation all along they wouldn't be looking like women scorned right now. Dey go be arright, though. fergie go giddem a nex idol to worship.
Chow, haul yuh arse! I have never pushed myself as Ronaldo's biggest fan. I have always stated I am a fan but I have also called him on his shit. I am still a fan of his talent but I am not a fan of how he handled this situation I think that is why most United fans have turned on him. Oh yeah still haul yuh arse !
Wipe off yuh monitor and speak softer. It have grape juice sprinkle all over it.
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I just find it funny that when a team wants to make a move that's in its own best interests they can do so as they please, when they please but when it comes to a player wanting to do the same (get P-P-P-PAID!!)
Talk about a moot point.
All teams will make a move that is in their best interests. The question is HOW THEY DO IT.
Some will go by the book and others will deliberately unsettle the player, encourage him to breach a contract that he signed less than a year ago and then try and tap him up using their various agents and propaganda machine (like Madrid).
now everybody want to talk about "loyalty" and "class" and all that stuff.
Yeah, god forbid that sort of thing should come into the conversation.
/sarcasm
Its not just about loyalty, he's obligated. He signed a new contract a few months ago and now he wants to tear it up?
Tell me whats classy about that?
As far as his comments are cncerned, I wouldn't put it past him to have said it as a calculating move. More often than not, the only recourse players have is to act "disgruntled" and become disgruntled in order to facilitate whatever move to whatever team they're trying to obtain........
Then why did he sign an improved deal with United a few months ago? So far all of you have failed to answer this question
As for that one game in Moscow, I think when a writer uses the word "greatest" do describe a team or an athlete, he or she is intending to cover a greater span of time than just one game or even one season.
There. You've just answered your own question...
Makes me wonder why you bothered to ask in the first place. If what you said there is true, then it only backs up that claim further. In the last 18 years united have won:
League Cup - 1992, 2006
FA Cup - 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
Premiership - 1993 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008
Champions League - 1999, 2008
European Cup Winners Cup - 1991
There you go. United have been consistently successful over a sustained period of nearly two decades. I think they deserve the 'greatest'...tag. I mean, you said it yourself.
Seems to me he's putting the description in a more historic proportion than just one season, and even so, if it's just this one season he's talking about, don't manu still have to win against other teams from the other confederations before he coronate them so?
See above.
;)
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
Doh mind dem, Omar, cough cough, Boss. Some of them are extreme beyond reason. Giggsy is was cronaldo BIGGEST fan up to a week ago yuh hear me? Hear when ah tell yuh dat!!
If they would be honest and consistent in their reasoning and evaluation all along they wouldn't be looking like women scorned right now. Dey go be arright, though. fergie go giddem a nex idol to worship.
Small Mag is a man used to watch EPL highlights then go and jock he wood in the shower..
Now this venerable one fellah trying he best to attach reason and rationale to what can be expressed in simple terms as a solid BUTT of the type only mountain goats in the Andes capable of administering.. I have to applaud de fellah efforts though..
Wha dey worried about though..
they have Nani!! :rotfl:
.....So yuh saying from now on every time Small Mag takin' a shower he go be blastin' "Nanny Wine" on de stereo loud loud?
Ah see where giggsy talkin' 'bout ronaldo have no "class" :rotfl:........... And where was he supposed to get dat? At manu? Under fergie? Ha!! More :rotfl: :rotfl:
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only mountain goats in the Andes capable of administering.
Maybe I should chuck in a few spelling errors and break up a few of my sentences in my posts for you to understand them.
A five year old would baulk at your grammar.
:rotfl:
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venerable...
it is not a horn, es el mano de ayuda (the helping hand)... :rotfl:
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some of the comments from the manure faithful in this thread gone beyond a simple fox and the grapes to chronic and deep rooted elements of tabanca...
chow boy... imagine if we was getting on so over Drogba..
dem men even gone as far as to call de man a one trick poney! the same man who just a few weeks ago was being lauded as the best player on the planet and a possible legend in the mould of the great George best..
allyuh keep sucking on that bitter lime..
player power!
Doh mind dem, Omar, cough cough, Boss. Some of them are extreme beyond reason. Giggsy is was cronaldo BIGGEST fan up to a week ago yuh hear me? Hear when ah tell yuh dat!!
If they would be honest and consistent in their reasoning and evaluation all along they wouldn't be looking like women scorned right now. Dey go be arright, though. fergie go giddem a nex idol to worship.
Small Mag is a man used to watch EPL highlights then go and jock he wood in the shower..
Now this venerable one fellah trying he best to attach reason and rationale to what can be expressed in simple terms as a solid BUTT of the type only mountain goats in the Andes capable of administering.. I have to applaud de fellah efforts though..
Wha dey worried about though..
they have Nani!! :rotfl:
.....So yuh saying from now on every time Small Mag takin' a shower he go be blastin' "Nanny Wine" on de stereo loud loud?
Ah see where giggsy talkin' 'bout ronaldo have no "class" :rotfl:........... And where was he supposed to get dat? At manu? Under fergie? Ha!! More :rotfl: :rotfl:
LOL! Chow still haul yuh arse! Is all good doh! Ah waitin for Smalls rebutle!
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I just find it funny that when a team wants to make a move that's in its own best interests they can do so as they please, when they please but when it comes to a player wanting to do the same (get P-P-P-PAID!!)
Talk about a moot point.
All teams will make a move that is in their best interests. The question is HOW THEY DO IT.
Some will go by the book and others will deliberately unsettle the player, encourage him to breach a contract that he signed less than a year ago and then try and tap him up using their various agents and propaganda machine (like Madrid).
now everybody want to talk about "loyalty" and "class" and all that stuff.
Yeah, god forbid that sort of thing should come into the conversation.
/sarcasm
Its not just about loyalty, he's obligated. He signed a new contract a few months ago and now he wants to tear it up?
Tell me whats classy about that?
As far as his comments are cncerned, I wouldn't put it past him to have said it as a calculating move. More often than not, the only recourse players have is to act "disgruntled" and become disgruntled in order to facilitate whatever move to whatever team they're trying to obtain........
Then why did he sign an improved deal with United a few months ago? So far all of you have failed to answer this question
As for that one game in Moscow, I think when a writer uses the word "greatest" do describe a team or an athlete, he or she is intending to cover a greater span of time than just one game or even one season.
There. You've just answered your own question...
Makes me wonder why you bothered to ask in the first place. If what you said there is true, then it only backs up that claim further. In the last 18 years united have won:
League Cup - 1992, 2006
FA Cup - 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
Premiership - 1993 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008
Champions League - 1999, 2008
European Cup Winners Cup - 1991
There you go. United have been consistently successful over a sustained period of nearly two decades. I think they deserve the 'greatest'...tag. I mean, you said it yourself.
Seems to me he's putting the description in a more historic proportion than just one season, and even so, if it's just this one season he's talking about, don't manu still have to win against other teams from the other confederations before he coronate them so?
See above.
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dread, manu's european success pales in comparison to Real Madrid's and they have been soundly beaten in World Club competition during this 18-year period. Please don't use epl and FA Cup successes to try to put them in contention for greatest club in the world. it doesn't apply. dominating the english league, a league that is hardly the best in the world, doesn't make you the "greatest club" in the world.
If cronaldo signed a contract yesterday and today he changed his mind aboout it, He is entitled to do that. Every man on this earth is born with free will. If he is so replaceable then tear up the contract and let him go. manu ent loss nutting and he's only a "one-trick pony", so let him go.
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I just find it funny that when a team wants to make a move that's in its own best interests they can do so as they please, when they please but when it comes to a player wanting to do the same (get P-P-P-PAID!!)
Talk about a moot point.
All teams will make a move that is in their best interests. The question is HOW THEY DO IT.
Some will go by the book and others will deliberately unsettle the player, encourage him to breach a contract that he signed less than a year ago and then try and tap him up using their various agents and propaganda machine (like Madrid).
now everybody want to talk about "loyalty" and "class" and all that stuff.
Yeah, god forbid that sort of thing should come into the conversation.
/sarcasm
Its not just about loyalty, he's obligated. He signed a new contract a few months ago and now he wants to tear it up?
Tell me whats classy about that?
As far as his comments are cncerned, I wouldn't put it past him to have said it as a calculating move. More often than not, the only recourse players have is to act "disgruntled" and become disgruntled in order to facilitate whatever move to whatever team they're trying to obtain........
Then why did he sign an improved deal with United a few months ago? So far all of you have failed to answer this question
As for that one game in Moscow, I think when a writer uses the word "greatest" do describe a team or an athlete, he or she is intending to cover a greater span of time than just one game or even one season.
There. You've just answered your own question...
Makes me wonder why you bothered to ask in the first place. If what you said there is true, then it only backs up that claim further. In the last 18 years united have won:
League Cup - 1992, 2006
FA Cup - 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
Premiership - 1993 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008
Champions League - 1999, 2008
European Cup Winners Cup - 1991
There you go. United have been consistently successful over a sustained period of nearly two decades. I think they deserve the 'greatest'...tag. I mean, you said it yourself.
Seems to me he's putting the description in a more historic proportion than just one season, and even so, if it's just this one season he's talking about, don't manu still have to win against other teams from the other confederations before he coronate them so?
See above.
;)
Dread dey knows this, they just windin yuh up and yuh takin it. Chow is the number one United hator on this site, doh pay him no mind when he saying he stuff. All he doing is sittin behind his computer rubbin his hands in glee because he have another United fan tuh pound! Cause his beleoved Chelski stil trying tuh by history and class!
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I want to know why Manchester Utd getting on so over Ronaldo.........
They did the same thing to Fulham when they wanted Saha.
Let the blasted player move..........shit.
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I want to know why Manchester Utd getting on so over Ronaldo.........
They did the same thing to Fulham when they wanted Saha.
Let the blasted player move..........shit.
:timeout:
no, no, no Andre.. wash your mouth fingers..
That is a club with class you talking about there..
rumoured to be pondering over making a substantial offer for the Dalai Lama..
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Class my arse..........they so accustomed to being the big fish that they cant handle the fact that a player wants to leave their "great" club.
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LOL this thread going down hill fast :devil:
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D real question is, if CR leaves who is going to captain your squad in the Andre Samuel Fantasy League.
D man was the only sure thing
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LOL this thread going down hill fast :devil:
Considering who the thread is about and the club team he does play for, it didn't have far to go. :devil:
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D real question is, if CR leaves who is going to captain your squad in the Andre Samuel Fantasy League.
D man was the only sure thing
that will wreak havoc on man like Andre Samuel with his "CR7 as captain and 1 transfer a week" management model. lol
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Ronaldo wants 'dream' Real move
Cristiano Ronaldo says he hopes to "complete his dream" of moving to Real Madrid, despite Manchester United insisting he is "not for sale".
The European champions said on Friday: "We are not listening to offers."
But the Portugal winger, 23, has signalled his intention to "take advantage of a great opportunity".
"Everybody knows what I want but things don't only depend on me," he said. "I am not the person who decides but I hope to complete my dream."
Ronaldo stated that he made up his mind before the Champions League final that he wanted to leave United for Real.
And he revealed that Luiz Felipe Scolari, about to take over at Chelsea after Portugal's exit from Euro 2008, advised him to make the move.
I don't mind if people get upset. It is my decision
Cristiano Ronaldo
"It is a dream, a step forward," Ronaldo replied when asked about the prospect of playing at the Bernabau.
"For me, it is a great opportunity and, as Scolari says, that train passes by only once and we have to take advantage of it."
Ronaldo indicated he will make a public statement about his plans over the next few days.
He said he had not spoken to Sir Alex Ferguson, who is on holiday in France, during his participation in Euro 2008.
And he insisted he is not worried about upsetting the United manager, who he is set to meet for talks about his future following Portugal's exit against Germany on Thursday.
"It is my opinion," added Ronaldo. "That is why I don't mind if people get upset. It is my decision. It is what I want."
The midfielder was in scintillating form throughout the domestic season and scored 42 goals as United clinched a Premier League and Champions League double.
United have already reported Real Madrid to world governing body Fifa over their public courtship of Ronaldo, although the organisation decided to take no formal action.
Real president Ramon Calderon insists any prospective transfer is far from a done deal, although admitted Ronaldo's comments could be a "key step' in the process.
"As we have already said many times, it is a problem between Manchester United and the player," Calderon told Spanish sports paper AS.
"If the two resolve this situation and Manchester United want to call us then we will be happy and delighted with them because Cristiano is a great player.
"If the kid keeps himself in that strong position, the step he has taken could be key."
Ronaldo's possible transfer fee has been put at between £50m and £80m.
He said after Portugal's 3-2 defeat by Germany that he requires surgery on a "small foot problem" that has been bothering him for three months.
"I'll have the operation and then have a good recovery period," he added.
Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7463439.stm
Published: 2008/06/21 08:01:09 GMT
© BBC MMVIII
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dream move eh, stueps Real is a rel shit team. :devil:
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Russia playmaker Andrei Arshavin has set his heart on a move to Barcelona this summer after the end of Euro 2008.
BBC Sport
Arshavin, who has been one of the stars of the tournament in Russia's run to the semi-finals, has also been linked with a move to the Premier League.
But the 27-year-old Zenit St Petersburg midfielder says playing for the club he supported as boy would be his "dream"
"Barcelona are my dream, I never thought I would have a genuine chance to play for the club," said Arshavin.
He added: "I have supported Barcelona all my life, let's see how the situation unfolds. For now I can't say anything for sure."
Arshavin has asked to leave Uefa Cup champions Zenit St Petersburg and his transfer value has soared after his superb performances at Euro 2008.
He has said he would prefer to move to an English or Spanish club and he previously told BBC Radio 5 Live of his admiration for England's top level.
"I see English games on TV - it's the best league in the world," he said.
As well as the Uefa Cup, Arshavin helped Zenit win the Russian league last season, but he is now keen to pursue a new challenge in another European league.
Arsenal and Chelsea have already been linked with a possible move, along with Spanish giants Barcelona.
"I would like to change club," said Arshavin in English. "It's not a big difference between England and Spain. It's another level for me."
Zenit coach Dick Advocaat is already resigned to losing his star player when the tournament ends.
"I can understand that he wants to play in Europe," Advocaat told BBC Radio 5 Live.
"I think he has some clubs in his mind, some in England and others in Spain, because they are the only two countries he would like to play in.
"If you lose one of your main players you don't like it as a coach but you have to be realistic."
Arshavin was suspended for Russia's opening two games at Euro 2008, but his return has propelled Guus Hiddink's side to a semi-final meeting with Spain, the team that beat them 4-1 in their first group game.
"It is difficult to say which league would suit him best," added Advocaat. "We play more or less 4-3-3 and our wide players have a lot of freedom.
"I'm not sure other coaches will give him the freedom but you have to otherwise it's difficult to use him. He needs the freedom to do what he thinks is best for the team.
"I have worked with him for two years and he is a very talented player.
"He's just turned 27, he's very quick, he has an excellent shot on both legs and besides scoring he can also provide for other players."
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I would prefer him to go Barca over Chelsea and Arsenal so he doesnt kill us when he plays ... He is a boss..I hope Utd steal him.. I doubt though
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If you believe some people on this forum, everyone wants to play for Real Madrid.
:rotfl:
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Russia playmaker Andrei Arshavin has set his heart on a move to Barcelona this summer after the end of Euro 2008.
BBC Sport
Arshavin, who has been one of the stars of the tournament in Russia's run to the semi-finals, has also been linked with a move to the Premier League.
But the 27-year-old Zenit St Petersburg midfielder says playing for the club he supported as boy would be his "dream"
"Barcelona are my dream, I never thought I would have a genuine chance to play for the club," said Arshavin.
He added: "I have supported Barcelona all my life, let's see how the situation unfolds. For now I can't say anything for sure."
Arshavin has asked to leave Uefa Cup champions Zenit St Petersburg and his transfer value has soared after his superb performances at Euro 2008.
He has said he would prefer to move to an English or Spanish club and he previously told BBC Radio 5 Live of his admiration for England's top level.
"I see English games on TV - it's the best league in the world," he said.
As well as the Uefa Cup, Arshavin helped Zenit win the Russian league last season, but he is now keen to pursue a new challenge in another European league.
Arsenal and Chelsea have already been linked with a possible move, along with Spanish giants Barcelona.
"I would like to change club," said Arshavin in English. "It's not a big difference between England and Spain. It's another level for me."
Zenit coach Dick Advocaat is already resigned to losing his star player when the tournament ends.
"I can understand that he wants to play in Europe," Advocaat told BBC Radio 5 Live.
"I think he has some clubs in his mind, some in England and others in Spain, because they are the only two countries he would like to play in.
"If you lose one of your main players you don't like it as a coach but you have to be realistic."
Arshavin was suspended for Russia's opening two games at Euro 2008, but his return has propelled Guus Hiddink's side to a semi-final meeting with Spain, the team that beat them 4-1 in their first group game.
"It is difficult to say which league would suit him best," added Advocaat. "We play more or less 4-3-3 and our wide players have a lot of freedom.
"I'm not sure other coaches will give him the freedom but you have to otherwise it's difficult to use him. He needs the freedom to do what he thinks is best for the team.
"I have worked with him for two years and he is a very talented player.
"He's just turned 27, he's very quick, he has an excellent shot on both legs and besides scoring he can also provide for other players."
It could be feast or famine for a player like this.
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Thought he was younger than 27....
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Thought he was younger than 27....
Looks younger than 27 ...
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I am a Barca fan, so that would be great!
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Nice player. Who was the last great Russian player to be raved about? Anyone recall? It's been a while siince Russia (or former Soviet Union) has had a really world class gem. I think the more skillful players were from the other republics and not necessarily Russia.
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Nice player. Who was the last great Russian player to be raved about? Anyone recall? It's been a while siince Russia (or former Soviet Union) has had a really world class gem. I think the more skillful players were from the other republics and not necessarily Russia.
I remember Aleinikov, Zavarov, Dobrovolsky and Mikalichenko from back in the early 90s..
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Oleg Blokhin!
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there were two dudes used to play for celta vigo who used to rip up...alexsander mostovoi and valery karpin. wow...celta real fall off dread.
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now i was all hyped last season when we signed henry and we had 4 lethal men in we attack. i must say i am extremely happy with arshavin's stament buh ah not starting to preach world dominance............well atleast not yet
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Nice player. Who was the last great Russian player to be raved about? Anyone recall? It's been a while siince Russia (or former Soviet Union) has had a really world class gem. I think the more skillful players were from the other republics and not necessarily Russia.
Valery Karpin who used to play for Real Sociedad and Celta Vigo in Spain a few years ago. He was a quality technician who played for mediocre teams. I think he was captain of Russia at one time.
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Look a lil write up on him here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeri_Karpin)
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Arshavin go easy on puyol eh
or should i say puyol go easy on arshavin. knocking spain out of euro may quell any barca move or maybe it will fuel it. who knows
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Arshavin go easy on puyol eh
or should i say puyol go easy on arshavin. knocking spain out of euro may quell any barca move or maybe it will fuel it. who knows
(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1700/cataloniaisnotspainciu4fj.gif)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/73/182817010_469c971537.jpg?v=0)
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Dem spanish clubs dose buy out everybody lol
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arshavin stock went down a lil bit today. where was he in today's match?
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arshavin stock went down a lil bit today. where was he in today's match?
yeah, i put out an amber alert for him cause he was definitely missing today
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Granted that I didn't see the game today...I doh think he stock went down at all... de man building up his credentials over most of the past 18 months, hard to see how significant a drop off one game can have on how teams (who've been tracking you for months) would rate you.
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I was excited about him as I thought that he would be in Chelsea's plans. He was a no show today and flatter to deceive. Russia needed him to step up to the plate and he was lost, truly lost should have been substituted.
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I'm staying at Arsenal - Adebayor
(BBC SPORT)
Emmanuel Adebayor has ended speculation about his immediate future by announcing he is staying at Arsenal.
The Togo striker, who scored 30 goals in 48 games for Arsenal last season, has been a target for both Italian side AC Milan and Catalan club Barcelona.
But the 24-year-old said in Vienna: "I am an Arsenal player and have three years left on my contract.
"The most important thing for me is to keep on enjoying my football. I'm staying at Arsenal."
AC Milan, who signed Mathieu Flamini from the Gunners in May, had previously announced that Adebayor was their only other target this summer.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has also been in Austria for the European Championship, but has not spoken to Adebayor about the player's future.
Should talks ever take place over a move, the former Monaco striker insisted money would not be a factor.
"When I was young I had a dream to be a good footballer and play for a big team," said Adebayor, who was in Vienna with his sponsors.
"I was born in Togo so I never cared about playing for money, my happiness was to play to enjoy myself. That's what I've been doing until now.
"You can see people changing clubs because of money, because they want a change of atmosphere or to get their names in the big leagues. I just play football to enjoy myself. I play because I love it."
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FLi !, you OK man? :devil:
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Arsenal shoulda take whatever they coulda get for him now and run.....
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I'm staying at Arsenal - Adebayor
(BBC SPORT)
Emmanuel Adebayor has ended speculation about his immediate future by announcing he is staying at Arsenal.
The Togo striker, who scored 30 goals in 48 games for Arsenal last season, has been a target for both Italian side AC Milan and Catalan club Barcelona.
But the 24-year-old said in Vienna: "I am an Arsenal player and have three years left on my contract.
"The most important thing for me is to keep on enjoying my football. I'm staying at Arsenal."
AC Milan, who signed Mathieu Flamini from the Gunners in May, had previously announced that Adebayor was their only other target this summer.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has also been in Austria for the European Championship, but has not spoken to Adebayor about the player's future.
Should talks ever take place over a move, the former Monaco striker insisted money would not be a factor.
"When I was young I had a dream to be a good footballer and play for a big team," said Adebayor, who was in Vienna with his sponsors.
"I was born in Togo so I never cared about playing for money, my happiness was to play to enjoy myself. That's what I've been doing until now.
"You can see people changing clubs because of money, because they want a change of atmosphere or to get their names in the big leagues. I just play football to enjoy myself. I play because I love it."
:rotfl: :rotfl:
somebody tell wenger to turn off the tele-prompter..
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Only russian player I ever will rave about was Igor Shalimov.... but this guy looks legit to hype for a while......!
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Arshavin takes Spanish lessons as Russian flop
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8286112/Arshavin-takes-Spanish-lessons-as-Russian-flop
VIENNA, Austria (AP) - The Russian who says he wants to play for Barcelona was given something very serious to think about Thursday by a Spanish team that showed what true class is all about.
If he ever lines up alongside Xavi Hernandez and Andres Iniesta in a Barcelona midfield, as he has indicated he wants to do, Arshavin may contribute to a top quality side.
Maybe the men who already play in the famous Barca shirts wanted to show him something in the 3-0 drubbing that sent Spain to the European Championship final against Germany on Sunday.
Russia's playmaker, who helped Zenit St. Petersburg win the UEFA Cup, felt the full force of La Liga and came off second best.
The diminutive midfielder with the silky dribble left all his talent in the changing room and appeared powerless to stop Spain. Arshavin had to sit out Russia's 4-1 loss to the Spaniards in group play because of suspension. He virtually did the same here.
Sadly, on the night he was supposed to be Russia's big weapon in an audacious bid to reach the final against Germany, it was as if he had once again virtually joined the 51,000 spectators in admiring the adventurous Spaniards again.
Having served his two-game ban, Arshavin played a major part in Russia's amazing charge to the semifinal, scoring or setting up goals in the victories over Sweden and the Netherlands and putting himself at the front of the chase for the player of the championship award.
This simply wasn't his night and, although he played the full 90 minutes, he contributed absolutely nothing to Russia's bid to give coach Guus Hiddink a rare final after two World Cup semifinal losses with the Netherlands and South Korea.
For the second night in a row, storms hit the Euros almost as if to add to the atmosphere.
Lightning flashed and thunder boomed around the Ernst Happel Stadium the night after TV coverage of Germany's thrilling 3-2 semifinal victory over Turkey in Switzerland had been hit by an 18 minute blackout caused by another storm that hit the Austrian capital.
Five minutes into the game a huge flash of lightning brought a "whooo" from the crowd and, although the heavy rain that rattled on the stadium roof also made playing conditions difficult, the players overcame the problems to serve up a quality game.
Russian striker Roman Pavlyuchenko skimmed the Spanish crossbar with a 25-meter shot and wasted a close range chance just before halftime after controlling the ball on his chest.
But the game appeared to be passing Arshavin by.
The Zenit playmaker went on one mazy dribble through the Spanish defense early in the first half but held onto the ball too long when he should have passed. When he neatly turned a pass to try and send a teammate towards goal, the moved fizzled out.
The rest of the time Arshavin watched as Spain repeatedly cut through the Russian midfield and three goals followed in the second half, the first of them, in the 50th minute, made in Barcelona.
Iniesta cut in from the left and drove in a low cross which Xavi met first time with his right foot to steer the ball home.
Even those Spanish players who don't play at home gave the Russians the runaround.
Arshavin watched from the other end of the field as his goalkeeper, Igor Akinfeyev, punched away shots from substitutes Cesc Fabregas and Xabi Alonso and Fernando Torres twice missed from close range. They all play in England, which could be an alternative if he decides against Spain.
Fabregas set up the second for Daniel Guiza in the 73rd minute and combined with Iniesta to create the third for David Silva in the 82nd.
Although it was a delight to watch for the Spanish fans and the neutrals in the stadium it was painful for Arshavin and his Russian teammates, who now have lost by a combined 7-1 to the same team and failed to make the final.
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I secretly wanted the man move on and let us make some $$$ from him.
Oh well, looks like he is in my Fantasy League squad in a few weeks.
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there were two dudes used to play for celta vigo who used to rip up...alexsander mostovoi and valery karpin. wow...celta real fall off dread.
2 massive players, I seeing them now in the blue jersey running riot, if I not mistaken they had a youth man from France who use to play midfield with them with some corn rows, he was good as well
Fabregas set up the second for Daniel Guiza in the 73rd minute and combined with Iniesta to create the third for David Silva in the 82nd.
only goals made in Barcelona, Iniesta to Xavi, Fabregas to Iniesta.
New Kit for next season - Seydou Keita
(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/futbol/temporada07-08/06/fitxatges_i_sortides/keita_presentacio/presentacio_keita_x25x.jpg)
(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/futbol/temporada07-08/06/fitxatges_i_sortides/keita_presentacio/presentacio_keita_x21x.jpg)
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(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/club/temporada07-08/06/jugadors_nova_samarreta/2aEquipacixnGRUPO.jpg)
(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/club/temporada07-08/06/jugadors_nova_samarreta/2aEquipacixnPUYOLcampo.jpg)
(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/club/temporada07-08/06/jugadors_nova_samarreta/2aEquipacixnTOURx.jpg)
(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/club/temporada07-08/06/jugadors_nova_samarreta/1aEquipacixGRUPO2.jpg)
The Barca anthem will be stitched into the collar
(http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Galeries/club/temporada07-08/06/jugadors_nova_samarreta/EL_CANT_DEL_BARxA.jpg)
(http://shop.fcbarcelona.com/stores/barcelona/_artwork/_common/kit_selector/227/dummy.jpg)
I feel I might buy the keeper jersey though
(http://shop.fcbarcelona.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_barca-286791-010.jpg)
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there were two dudes used to play for celta vigo who used to rip up...alexsander mostovoi and valery karpin. wow...celta real fall off dread.
2 massive players, I seeing them now in the blue jersey running riot, if I not mistaken they had a youth man from France who use to play midfield with them with some corn rows, he was good as well
That was the same Peter Luccin that Sunderland supposedly interested in now..
yeah them 2 russians was boss, Karpin was ah big player..
that celta side was decent..
they had sylvinho who at barcelona now, they had ah argentine defender and a good argentine goalkeeper too..
and remember dem brazilians, catanha and fernando baiano.
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there were two dudes used to play for celta vigo who used to rip up...alexsander mostovoi and valery karpin. wow...celta real fall off dread.
2 massive players, I seeing them now in the blue jersey running riot, if I not mistaken they had a youth man from France who use to play midfield with them with some corn rows, he was good as well
That was the same Peter Luccin that Sunderland supposedly interested in now..
yeah them 2 russians was boss, Karpin was ah big player..
that celta side was decent..
they had sylvinho who at barcelona now, they had ah argentine defender and a good argentine goalkeeper too..
and remember dem brazilians, catanha and fernando baiano.
Mostovoi & Karpin was real deadly for real...just yesterday my mind run on them as I was watching Arshavin.... Those were the days when Celta was an up and down side....Now I think they're just down.
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and remember dem brazilians, catanha and fernando baiano.
Study Catanha play for Spain back in the day.
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Just heard on ESPN he flip flop nutten eh cast in concrete where he go b next season
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As i've been saying for some time, he in some fantasy world as to his talents and abilities and this saga showing it up.
His predator size head get even bigger with the interest from clubs.
He said in a press conference in Vienna (doh ask me what he doing there) that he is happy with Arsenal and have 3 years left on his contract, blah blah blah.
THEN minutes later, the skysports news reporter corner him and he said, there are discussions in the next weeks as to his future.
Who the heck he think he is!?? steups
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Is not only a woman rite u changer her mind d man lil confuse
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Adebayor drops Barca hint
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8295662/Adebayor-drops-Barca-hint
Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor revealed he has received a very attractive offer from Barcelona for his services this summer.
Adebayor stated on Friday he would be staying at the Emirates Stadium, but then later the same day admitted his future was still up for debate.
AC Milan appeared to be leading the race to sign the Togolese forward, but the 24-year-old has now declared he might be interested in a move to Spain.
Adebayor has warned Arsenal he may be forced to look for job else where if his pay demands are not met, even though Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has admitted his desire to keep him in London.
"Milan are a big club but the fact they are not playing in the Champions League next season is less of a challenge," Adebayor said.
"Barcelona have made a good financial offer and there is also the chance to play alongside great players.
"Yes, I am still under contract to Arsenal but it's up to the directors to satisfy my demands or I'll leave.
"If my good form of last season has increased my value, my employers have to take account of that.
"I have to prepare for my retirement. Even if you are not scoring fine goals and you have money, you can enjoy a happy retirement.
"The time for preparing for that moment is now."
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Barca blieve it when I c it
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7482359.stm
Chelsea have signed Portugal midfielder Deco from Spanish giants Barcelona for a fee of about £8m.
The 30-year-old was recently told by Barca's new coach Pep Guardiola that he did not feature in their future plans.
Deco becomes the club's first signing since Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari was appointed manager earlier this month.
However, his signing is Chelsea's second of the summer after international team-mate Jose Bosingwa.
The Brazil-born star joined Barcelona from Porto in 2004 after helping the Portuguese side win the Uefa Cup, Champions League and domestic league titles under former
Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho.
He won two league championships with the Catalan giants, and was part of the team that beat Arsenal in the Champions League final in Paris in 2006.
However, a series of injuries have hampered his season, and he made just 14 starts in Barcelona's La Liga campaign.
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And it begins.... Port-azil FC
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And it begins.... Port-azil FC
better brand on its way.....
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should have been there 4 years ago but Mourinho bank on Lampard and wingers for creativity instead. Will be interesting to see Ballack Essien Cole and Deco together
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BRAND!!
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And it begins.... Port-azil FC
Smalls is only fraid yuh fraid. Yuh know Ronaldo is outa here. An Scolari in charge. Buh doh worry nex campaign will be great.
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Bullet!!!!!!! :applause:
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fack it
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
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Nice line up dey... but lampard could ride out for all i care, and insert deco's versatility.... But once Once Robinho Reach and we put him out on the leff side in place of dat lil bitch-ass malouda... the puzzle will be complete... world domination....
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long sah.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few days, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team suggestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Nice line up dey... but lampard could ride out for all i care, and insert deco's versatility.... But once Once Robinho Reach and we put him out on the leff side in place of dat lil bitch-ass malouda... the puzzle will be complete... world domination....
If lampard ride out then the middle go be too soft with Essien as the only battler..
Ballack still strike me as a touch too slow for a premiership engine room and I can't see him, Deco and Lampard starting in the same centre midfield..
Unless we play deco out left and give him a free license to roam..
anyway lemme not count chickens.. still not sure who might buss it to Inter Milan..
Lampard?? Carvalho?? Drogba??
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children sufferfor 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well.
Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. Den we will have some mouth watering EPL and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Lampard supposedly signing with Inter.......of course that was reported on goal.com, so take it with a grain of salt
http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=754976
http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=755928
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Chelsea have signed Portugal midfielder Deco from Spanish giants Barcelona for a fee of about £8m.
so likkle bit for a world class midfielder
Barca piping or wha??
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Chelsea have signed Portugal midfielder Deco from Spanish giants Barcelona for a fee of about £8m.
so likkle bit for a world class midfielder
Barca piping or wha??
nah man.. he is 30 years old and they already come out and say they don't want him dey next year... so they basically had to take what they get... a couple weeks ago he had come out and tell them that he was too old to sell for 15 mill... the power was his the whole time...
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well. Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. some mouth watering EPL expected and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
well i like a kid who just crack open he christmas present and get ah old used west indian readers with ah brown paper covering...
who de f**k is gallinari dread??
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well. Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. some mouth watering EPL expected and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
well i like a kid who just crack open he christmas present and get ah old used west indian readers with ah brown paper covering...
who de f**k is gallinari dread??
Gallinari, me lost dey papa, dat doh ring ah bell nah :-\. Help yuh boi out wid dat one nah. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well. Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. some mouth watering EPL expected and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
well i like a kid who just crack open he christmas present and get ah old used west indian readers with ah brown paper covering...
who de f**k is gallinari dread??
Gallinari, me lost dey papa, dat doh ring ah bell nah :-\. Help yuh boi out wid dat one nah. HIGHLY BLESSED.
just de fact you eh know who he is says it all.. that is de man the Knicks waste they first round 6th pick on.. Ah 6"8 forward from Italy, with a half decent offensive game and no defensive game whatsoever.. they coulda well go with eric gordon..
look like a partner ting since de new coach is an italian..
i dont think de knicks coming back anytime in the next decade nuh.. :'(
go chelsea!
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It eh go have no need for Big Phil 2 learn English between d Brazilian he want and d Portuguese players he go b safe in he native tougue
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well. Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. some mouth watering EPL expected and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
well i like a kid who just crack open he christmas present and get ah old used west indian readers with ah brown paper covering...
who de f**k is gallinari dread??
Gallinari, me lost dey papa, dat doh ring ah bell nah :-\. Help yuh boi out wid dat one nah. HIGHLY BLESSED.
just de fact you eh know who he is says it all.. that is de man the Knicks waste they first round 6th pick on.. Ah 6"8 forward from Italy, with a half decent offensive game and no defensive game whatsoever.. they coulda well go with eric gordon..
look like a partner ting since de new coach is an italian..
i dont think de knicks coming back anytime in the next decade nuh.. :'(
go chelsea!
Yuh beat meh to it, meh boi here now informed meh.Yeah, dat is de yute de Knicks drafted, ah felt real sorry fuh de boi doh. Dem facking heartless NY fans boo de man on ah special night like dat >:(. We know he is not a big player, well at least not yet. But dat is a special night in de yute life, dey cud ah save dey facking behavior or comments fuh de news papers and thing >:(. Yes sah, yuh know yuh ball, Eric Gordon is ah big player, he cud fall right in to de rotation at Knicks :beermug: HIGHLY BLESSED.
Wade and Beasley - De real deal
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well. Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. some mouth watering EPL expected and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
well i like a kid who just crack open he christmas present and get ah old used west indian readers with ah brown paper covering...
who de f**k is gallinari dread??
Gallinari, me lost dey papa, dat doh ring ah bell nah :-\. Help yuh boi out wid dat one nah. HIGHLY BLESSED.
just de fact you eh know who he is says it all.. that is de man the Knicks waste they first round 6th pick on.. Ah 6"8 forward from Italy, with a half decent offensive game and no defensive game whatsoever.. they coulda well go with eric gordon..
look like a partner ting since de new coach is an italian..
i dont think de knicks coming back anytime in the next decade nuh.. :'(
go chelsea!
I think the coach and his father were teammates.....
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Cech
Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A. Cole
Essien
Cole Lampard Ballack/Deco Robinho
Drogba
= dominance!!
:devil:
Look all yuh boi, ah back wid ah big smile on meh face. Well if all yuh know meh, well den yuh should know wey de smile is for. Yeah man, everything well, well blessed in south Florida these days, give huge thanks tuh de man above man. He never let his children suffer for 2 long.
Any way, Omar ah wasn't here for a few day, may be ah missed some thing. Why yuh have Robinho dey? Is dat yuh team sugestion or de man get pull in already? HIGHLY BLESSED.
yeah Supa, based on the murmurings in de rumor mill, looking a strong possibility we getting Robinho for that left wing..
Firstly, he only making a 30k a week and they dont want to up he paper.. He say he could see himself playing for Chelsea.
Also, Madrid want to offload him to raise some funds to buy C. Ronaldo..
so looking like we in business..
Thanks meh breddah. Well just like de Heat is and will always be meh first love in basketball, den ah does back de Lakers. Well in football it is de same scene. Barcelona is and will always be meh team, but due to meh love for Drogba as a player, I support Chelsea big time. Damn, if Robinho come over, dat will be some serious ball next season in de EPL boi, well, well. Life is good man, in de month of August, T&T kick off de next round of WCQ, plus we should get back a few of de world cup stars, nice, nice. some mouth watering EPL expected and den a few months later it will Mike. Yes Mike, not Michael Jordan, but south Florida's Mike (Michael Beasley) and of course Wade. Ah sorry people, tuh mention dis in de football section, ah just can't help it ;D. Right now ah like ah kid dat just got his first bicycle for Christmas, ah really in a nice and blessed mood ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
well i like a kid who just crack open he christmas present and get ah old used west indian readers with ah brown paper covering...
who de f**k is gallinari dread??
Gallinari, me lost dey papa, dat doh ring ah bell nah :-\. Help yuh boi out wid dat one nah. HIGHLY BLESSED.
just de fact you eh know who he is says it all.. that is de man the Knicks waste they first round 6th pick on.. Ah 6"8 forward from Italy, with a half decent offensive game and no defensive game whatsoever.. they coulda well go with eric gordon..
look like a partner ting since de new coach is an italian..
i dont think de knicks coming back anytime in the next decade nuh.. :'(
go chelsea!
I think the coach and his father were teammates.....
Right, the new coach is not Italian, he just played professionally over there back in the day......Gallinari's father was one of his teammates.
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better brand of failing on the big stage is on its way.....
fixed it for u
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I secretly wanted the man move on and let us make some $$$ from him.
Oh well, looks like he is in my Fantasy League squad in a few weeks.
But I thought AC Milan is your side too
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Adebayor drops Barca hint
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8295662/Adebayor-drops-Barca-hint
Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor revealed he has received a very attractive offer from Barcelona for his services this summer.
Adebayor stated on Friday he would be staying at the Emirates Stadium, but then later the same day admitted his future was still up for debate.
AC Milan appeared to be leading the race to sign the Togolese forward, but the 24-year-old has now declared he might be interested in a move to Spain.
Adebayor has warned Arsenal he may be forced to look for job else where if his pay demands are not met, even though Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has admitted his desire to keep him in London.
"Milan are a big club but the fact they are not playing in the Champions League next season is less of a challenge," Adebayor said.
"Barcelona have made a good financial offer and there is also the chance to play alongside great players.
"Yes, I am still under contract to Arsenal but it's up to the directors to satisfy my demands or I'll leave.
"If my good form of last season has increased my value, my employers have to take account of that.
"I have to prepare for my retirement. Even if you are not scoring fine goals and you have money, you can enjoy a happy retirement.
"The time for preparing for that moment is now."
Andre Samuel and company, yeah ah calling all yuh out, yuh know ah doh business. Any way small thing doh, yuh see what meh argument was about, when ah said KJ need tuh beat de iron when it hot. It doh take ah rocket scientist tuh figure dat out my friend. Now read dat highlighted part and den check alll yuh self :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Wade and Beasley - De real deal
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For all those arguing that the days of player loyalty and honouring contracts are gone and that 'everyone has to look out for their own futures', should be aware of the slippery slope of this being reciprocated by the clubs.
i.e. clubs can similarly view players as chattels to be bartered and sole for the right prices, irrespective of any commitment they have made to the player, or whether the player settled, bought a house in the area, etc.
But in this case, Adebayor should throw he shithound frame back to Togo.
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For all those arguing that the days of player loyalty and honouring contracts are gone and that 'everyone has to look out for their own futures', should be aware of the slippery slope of this being reciprocated by the clubs.
i.e. clubs can similarly view players as chattels to be bartered and sole for the right prices, irrespective of any commitment they have made to the player, or whether the player settled, bought a house in the area, etc.
But in this case, Adebayor should throw he shithound frame back to Togo.
you ready to rest your club's hopes on the shoulders of nicklas bendtner?
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Chelski aint winning shite, will Bullocks on dey team! Dey can buy all of Brazil's rejects dey want but dey aint winning shite!
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For all those arguing that the days of player loyalty and honouring contracts are gone and that 'everyone has to look out for their own futures', should be aware of the slippery slope of this being reciprocated by the clubs.
i.e. clubs can similarly view players as chattels to be bartered and sole for the right prices, irrespective of any commitment they have made to the player, or whether the player settled, bought a house in the area, etc.
But in this case, Adebayor should throw he shithound frame back to Togo.
you ready to rest your club's hopes on the shoulders of nicklas bendtner?
I have no loyalty to any EPL club my lord
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FL!, you need to stick to BINGO and leave football talk to those with some modicum of knowledge.
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FL!, you need to stick to BINGO and leave football talk to those with some modicum of knowledge.
and would that big pot belly arm chair critics such as yourself?
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Big pot belly?
lol
You are comedic also
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better brand of failing on the big stage is on its way.....
fixed it for u
:devil:
:devil:
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Chelski aint winning shite, will Bullocks on dey team! Dey can buy all of Brazil's rejects dey want but dey aint winning shite!
Robhino is not a Brasil reject and Deco is old but classy just as classy as a Giggs wont you say? :devil: :devil:
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Chelski aint winning shite, will Bullocks on dey team! Dey can buy all of Brazil's rejects dey want but dey aint winning shite!
Robhino is not a Brasil reject and Deco is old but classy just as classy as a Giggs wont you say? :devil: :devil:
LOL! Robhino is a borse of a player, Deco will never be as great as Giggs.
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Nice line up dey... but lampard could ride out for all i care, and insert deco's versatility.... But once Once Robinho Reach and we put him out on the leff side in place of dat lil bitch-ass malouda... the puzzle will be complete... world domination....
If lampard ride out then the middle go be too soft with Essien as the only battler..
Ballack still strike me as a touch too slow for a premiership engine room and I can't see him, Deco and Lampard starting in the same centre midfield..
Unless we play deco out left and give him a free license to roam..
anyway lemme not count chickens.. still not sure who might buss it to Inter Milan..
Lampard?? Carvalho?? Drogba??
Lampard is gone, plus he is overrted as a midfield battler anyway.
Also Essien would be wasted as the holding midfielder when he has more drive than any of the other midfeilders. Replce Lampard withe Essien and replace Essien with a Makalele type player.
Don't think that Obi Mikel is right for that role either so Chelsea will want to go get somebody, probaly Moutinho.
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man u still makin it 3 in ah row.chelsea lucky if they come 3rd.
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According to press reports Henrique Adriano Buss has signed for Barça for a fee in the region of €8-10 million. The 21-year-old defender has been a star of Palmeiras and in March 2008 was called up for the first time by the Brazilian national team. It is believed that Henrique, who is 1M85 tall, will travel to Scotland for Barça’s preseason but will probably be loaned out to allow him to develop.
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Guardiola’s new team of assistants
Sandra Sarmiento
FC Barcelona’s first team coach already has his team of assistants in place: Tito Vilanova, Juan Carlos Unzué and Lorenzo Buenaventura.
This new team has four major goals for the 2008/09 season. They are to drive excellence and professionalism in the dressing room; to stress player performance and what impacts on it; provide more scientific parameterisation to monitor the players’ physical condition and health; and new training and fitness routines.
Coaching staff
unzue_3.jpgJosep Guardiola will be head coach and will have three assistants: Tito Vilanova as assistant coach, Juan Carlos Unzué as goalkeeping coach among other duties, and Lorenzo Buenaventura in charge of physical fitness and performance.
Lorenzo Buenaventura
Born in Seville, the physical fitness coach has come to FC Barcelona after a spell at Cadiz CF. Buenaventura has also worked at RCD Espanyol, Atlético de Madrid and for Argentina. He will be in charge of the team’s physical preparation with three aims:
- Tactical physical fitness work to make training more intense
- Planning individual and group physical training, scientific measurement and continuous assessment of levels of strength, stamina and speed of players.
- Managing all the variables which affect a player’s performance: performance on the field, individual physical preparation, diets, rest, avoiding injury, and sports physiology and psychology.
Fitness coaches
The first team will have three fitness coaches working under Lorenzo Buenaventura: Paco Seirul•lo as lead fitness coach; Aureli Altimira, who last season was with Josep Guardiola at Barça B, will be in charge of field work; and Francesc Cos will be in charge of strength work.
the doctors
Ricard Pruna and Daniel Medina will look after the footballers’ health. Medina was with Barça B and the indoor football team last season. New this season is the setting up of the physiology applied to top level sport department, led by physiologist Esteban Gorostiaga’s team. With extensive experience in professional football (Liverpool, Valencia, Osasuna, etc.), Gorostiaga is also a member of the Spanish Olympic Committee’s Medical Commission.
All the doctors, physiotherapists and chiropodists in the medical section will work closely with the physical fitness department to maximise physical performance and reduce injury rates.
this jus shows how well organised and thought out these programs are do our national players even have special diets?
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Chelski aint winning shite, will Bullocks on dey team! Dey can buy all of Brazil's rejects dey want but dey aint winning shite!
Robhino is not a Brasil reject and Deco is old but classy just as classy as a Giggs wont you say? :devil: :devil:
LOL! Robhino is a borse of a player, Deco will never be as great as Giggs.
davidephraim have it right man, Giggs is a boss but I will put Deco right dey with him...I watch him good for the Euro, all his passing, creativity = immaculate
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A man drop dat on meh today.
Cyah see Valencia partin wit he...but dey say $$$ talks.
28 years pold...JUST young enough for Wenger to be interested. Maybe is true.
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Chelski aint winning shite, will Bullocks on dey team! Dey can buy all of Brazil's rejects dey want but dey aint winning shite!
Deco is old but classy just as classy as a Giggs wont you say? :devil: :devil:
nah dread, u real stretching it there.....i sure after u read it back on the board, u feeling embarrassed for that shit u post. Giggs is boss for how many years now? since he was a teen? how long now Deco on the world stage 2003 2004?
??? ::) :devil:
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Adebayor drops Barca hint
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8295662/Adebayor-drops-Barca-hint
Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor revealed he has received a very attractive offer from Barcelona for his services this summer.
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MADRID (Reuters) - Brazil right back Daniel Alves completed his move from Sevilla to Barcelona on a four-year contract on Wednesday.
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The club said they had paid 29 million euros (23 million pounds) with a further six million dependent on appearances and results, for the 25-year-old international.
"We have signed the best player in his position in the world. He is a full back who likes to attack and offers a great all-round contribution," Barca sports director Txiki Begiristain told a news conference.
Alves was an outstanding figure at Sevilla in his five and a half seasons there helping them to win two UEFA Cups, a King's Cup, a European Super Cup and a Spanish Super Cup, making him a target for a number of Europe's top clubs.
Alves said: "Barcelona want to return to be the side they were two years ago (when they won a second consecutive Primera Liga title and the European Cup) and I am honoured they have come for me to form a part of this project."
The Brazilian is the club's fourth signing since they finished third in the league in May, to end their second consecutive season without silverware.
Barca sacked coach Frank Rijkaard in favour of former player Pep Guardiola, and have moved swiftly to reinforce their defence primarily, landing centre-backs Martin Caceres and Gerard Pique and defensive midfielder Seydou Keita, also from Sevilla.
Spanish media have reported Barca are also interested in signing Arsenal midfielder Aleksandr Hleb and striker Emmanuel Adebayor, and Zenith St Petersburg's Russian attacker Andrei Arshavin.
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Sergio Ramos.
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nah...alyuh mad...the best right back is arsenal's own bacary 'bashment hairstyle' sagna...more defensively sound than both alves and ramos and could still put in a decent cross
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nah...alyuh mad...the best right back is arsenal's own bacary 'bashment hairstyle' sagna...more defensively sound than both alves and ramos and could still put in a decent cross
i'm guessing you only get the Fox Soccer Channel in your part of the world?
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sure the best , ramos makes a number of notable mistakes during games , as seen time an time again in the euros and also for madrid. The only current right back that i would rate over or on the same level as Alves is Miacon.
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nah...alyuh mad...the best right back is arsenal's own bacary 'bashment hairstyle' sagna...more defensively sound than both alves and ramos and could still put in a decent cross
i'm guessing you only get the Fox Soccer Channel in your part of the world?
try ur best nah
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Like men sleeping on this youthman...i saw him play for brazil under 20 few years back...real touches
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=553277&sec=england&cc=5901
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFcuaFCzrk
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nah...alyuh mad...the best right back is arsenal's own bacary 'bashment hairstyle' sagna...more defensively sound than both alves and ramos and could still put in a decent cross
it have nobody on Arsenal side that should be mentioned in the same sentence as "_____________ is the best (position) in the world.
NOBODY
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Adebayor gets go-ahead for Barcelona move
· Catalan club set to bid £30m for unsettled striker
· Arsenal target Blackburn's Santa Cruz as replacement
Dominic Fifield
The Guardian, Friday July 4, 2008
Barcelona are to submit an increased offer worth about £30m for Emmanuel Adebayor after Arsenal privately conceded that they are prepared to sell the unsettled Togo striker if the price is right.
An initial offer of about £24m from the Catalan club was rejected this week because the Gunners are determined to secure a fee that reflects the value of a player who cost them only £4.2m from Monaco 18 months ago but has improved immeasurably under Arsène Wenger. Adebayor has been a revelation since moving to England and scored 30 goals in all competitions last season as Arsenal remained in contention for the Premier League title and European Cup before running out of steam in the last three months of the campaign.
Wenger was initially resistant to interest from Milan and Barcelona but he has grown weary of the mixed messages he has received from Adebayor and the 24-year-old striker's agent, Stéphane Courbis, with Adebayor veering from pledging his future to the club one minute to suggesting it would be better for all parties if he were allowed to move on the next. He earns some £35,000 a week at the Emirates and has been keen to secure a more lucrative deal.
Arsenal had been prepared to enter into negotiations but it appears the Togo forward has now burnt his bridges with the club. That will pave the way for a move to Camp Nou - Milan having hinted that they could not afford the player - but, even though Arsenal's price will soon be met, the timing of the deal will depend on how swiftly the Gunners lure a replacement. Wenger's first choice is believed to be Blackburn Rovers' Roque Santa Cruz, who impressed during a prolific first season in the Premier League, but Manchester United have also expressed a tentative interest in the Paraguayan.
The new Rovers manager, Paul Ince, will resist attempts to lure Santa Cruz away and expects both the striker and David Bentley, the subject of interest from Tottenham Hotspur, to report back for pre-season training on Monday. But the Lancashire club are realistic and a substantial offer for the forward would be likely to secure him for Arsenal.
Wenger is understood to be disappointed by Adebayor's attitude and recognises that there is no value in retaining the services of a player who feels his future does not lie at the Emirates. Adebayor would relish a move to Barça, whose president, Joan Laporta, faces a "motion of censure" by club members on Sunday which, if lost, will see him thrust into an election to retain his position.
Yet the desire to appease members with a big-name signing to follow the £23.5m purchase of Sevilla's Daniel Alves is only one element of Laporta's thinking. Barcelona have made it clear that their priority this summer is signing a striker with physical presence, after sanctioning the departure of Samuel Eto'o. They had considered Chelsea's Didier Drogba but have been persuaded that Adebayor represents better value, given his age.
Adebayor will follow Mathieu Flamini out of Arsenal, the midfielder having signed for Milan under the Bosman ruling, and Alexander Hleb is also expected to depart before the start of the season, with Barcelona and Bayern Munich having expressed interest in the Belarus midfielder. Wenger will secure Marseille's Samir Nasri as a replacement and intends to play Abou Diaby as a central midfielder, with Gilberto Silva as an experienced back-up, though he may yet be tempted back into the market to strengthen his squad.
Villarreal may yesterday have deflected any interest Wenger had in their Spain midfielder Marcos Senna by insisting any suitor would have to pay about £30m for the 31-year-old, who was one of the most consistent performers at Euro 2008.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jul/04/premierleague.arsenal?gusrc=rss&feed=football
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United Accept Madrid's Ronaldo Bid?
News sources in Spain suggest that Manchester United have accepted Real Madrid's offer for Cristiano Ronaldo.
According to radio station Onda Cero, Real Madrid have reached a "principle of agreement" with Manchester United over the Portuguese star, who has been under the radar of the Merengues following a topnotch season at Old Trafford.
Although Manchester United are reluctant to part with Ronaldo, they prefer doing business for the 23-year-old rather than having one of their valuable pieces unhappy in their ranks.
It is understood that Ronaldo's transfer to Santiago Bernabéu will be officialized in the next few days and will involve a fee in the region of 90 million euros, thus becoming the most expensive transfer fee in football history, if confirmed.
The 2007/08 European Golden Shoe award winner, who joined Manchester United from Sporting CP in 2003 for a fee of €15 million, scored a total of 42 goals for The Red Devils last season.
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Hmmm, no source, but that better not be from you-know-where...
I will make it my life's ambition to ban goal.com articles from this or any other site :beermug:
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all yuh remember he
Atletico sign Pongolle for four seasons
(http://www.wldcup.com/pictures/wsn/0807/pic117265.jpg)
Spanish first division side Atletico Madrid said Thursday it had signed French striker Florent Sinama Pongolle from Recreativo Huelva for four seasons.
The club gave no financial details.
Pongolle, 23, scored 22 goals in his 67 appearances for Recreativo over the past two seasons.
He played for French side Le Havre and English side Liverpool before joining Recreativo.
It is the third signing for Atletico for the upcoming season which will mark the club's return to the Champions League stage after an 11-year absence.
The club had up until now signed two defenders, John Heitinga from Dutch side Ajax and Tomas Ujfalusi from Italian side Fiorentina.
Boss I real love your sig, been saying that months now, but certain men in here does take that site as Gospel truth and end up posting all kind outlandish shit on here.
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(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll314/Chunkycj/cronaldolose41220080620.jpg)
Am...to easy :rotfl:
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Barca fail in fresh Arshavin bid
Zenit turn down offer from Spaniards
Sky Sports News
By Lewis Rutledge Last updated: 7th July 2008
Zenit St Petersburg have rejected a second offer of £12million from Barcelona for Andrei Arshavin.
The Russian playmaker, who sparkled on the international stage at Euro 2008, revealed it was a dream of his to move to 'Camp Nou' earlier in the summer.
Barca made an approach to Zenit at the end of last month but the Russian outfit turned down their initial bid.
The Spanish side have now returned with another offer but, according to Zenit, it is no better than last time.
"Barcelona refused to improve their original bid of 15million euros (£12million) offer for our striker Arshavin," Zenit general director Maxim Mitrofanov said on the club's official website.
Mitrofanov added that Zenit had received no other offers, saying: "We are not holding any talks with any other clubs concerning the transfer of our forward Arshavin."
Reports had suggested that Arshavin was set to fly to London for talks with Chelsea and London.
Zenit are understood to want closer to £20million for the 27-year-old.
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Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has hinted he may target Valencia striker David Villa as a replacement for Portsmouth-bound Peter Crouch.
Crouch is poised to complete his summer transfer to Fratton Park after Pompey agreed a fee with Liverpool on Monday.
Spain's Villa has reportedly attracted strong interest from several leading European clubs after he finished top scorer at Euro 2008.
The 26-year-old has since insisted he is happy at the Mestalla; however Benitez could be set to test the forward's resolve.
Difficult
Benitez, who brought fellow Spaniard Fernando Torres to Anfield from Atletico Madrid last summer, said: "We have Torres, Andrei Voronin, Dirk Kuyt, Ryan Babel and Steven Gerrard, who can play as a second striker.
"But we will try to bring in another option. Villa is a player we know all about and he is on our list. But maybe it will be difficult."
On Crouch's expected departure, Benitez praised the England international's professionalism and character after he endured a difficult beginning to his career on Merseyside.
Stay
"He is a good professional and a nice person, and we would have wanted him to stay. We offered him a new contract," said Benitez.
"But sometimes you have to understand the player. He wanted to play a lot more, and with Fernando Torres now first choice, that was always going to be difficult.
"I can understand Peter's situation. But he did very well for this club and we always supported him when people doubted the decision to bring him to Anfield."
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Bring Villa. But Torres must lead from the top. Villa will drop back deeper. Only thing is that Gerrard may have to revert to the right. Not his favorite position, but it's the price you pay for extreme versatility.
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with Villa Liverpool will definitely b a contender as long as he and Torres stays fit and Rafa doesn't try to coach
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This summer looks to be a fairly busy one at Anfield, with Andrea Dossena and Philipp Degen confirmed as new signings. In a Sky Sports News interview, Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez was instead quizzed on rumoured transfer target David Villa.
"I said the other day he was one of the names we had on our list, but in this moment it is not an option for us," said the Spanish tactician.
"There are two or three things. We know that he's a very good player, also we know the price and also we know the players that we have, so everything together at the end, we decided that he was one of the names - because everyone knows he's a very good player - but in this moment he is not our target."
Regarding Spurs vice-captain Robbie Keane, Benitez was decidedly more sheepish, hinting that the Reds are still attempting to make a push for the forward.
"He's one of the other names and we are still working with other names," he said.
"We were in contact and we will see now, but anyway, we are here to be talking about Dossena and Degen."
Regarding the ongoing Gareth Barry saga, in which the Aston Villa captain is on the verge of a move, Benitez said: "You know the situation. We are waiting and I think that the main thing today was to talk about these two players."
The former Valencia coach also reiterated the good terms on which he and Peter Crouch are parting ways: "I am realistic. I am a professional, he is a very good professional too.
"All the things I can say about Crouch are good and I can understand if he wants to play in another team and he wants to play every week."
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all yuh remember he
Atletico sign Pongolle for four seasons
(http://www.wldcup.com/pictures/wsn/0807/pic117265.jpg)
Spanish first division side Atletico Madrid said Thursday it had signed French striker Florent Sinama Pongolle from Recreativo Huelva for four seasons.
The club gave no financial details.
Pongolle, 23, scored 22 goals in his 67 appearances for Recreativo over the past two seasons.
He played for French side Le Havre and English side Liverpool before joining Recreativo.
It is the third signing for Atletico for the upcoming season which will mark the club's return to the Champions League stage after an 11-year absence.
The club had up until now signed two defenders, John Heitinga from Dutch side Ajax and Tomas Ujfalusi from Italian side Fiorentina.
Boss I real love your sig, been saying that months now, but certain men in here does take that site as Gospel truth and end up posting all kind outlandish shit on here.
Waiting to see how Aguirre's signing of Coupet helps the club. During the Euro - despite the obvious general *&^#ery - Coupet looked very discombobulated ...
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this is getting interesting.. lol
Ronaldo backs Blatter's view of United departure
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8332228/Ronaldo-backs-Blatter's-view-of-United-departure
LISBON, Portugal (AP) - Cristiano Ronaldo's escalated his rift with Manchester United on Thursday by backing FIFA president Sepp Blatter's assertion that he is being treated like a slave by the Premier League club.
United's owing Glazer family has vowed not to sell its star winger to Real Madrid, but Blatter believes that Ronaldo should be allowed to leave.
"I completely agree with the statements of the president, he is right," Ronaldo told Portuguese broadcaster TVI on Thursday.
Ronaldo reiterated his previously stated desire to join the Spanish champion despite still not submitting a transfer request.
"You know what I said, what I want and what I would like," he said. "Now I have to wait and see."
The 23-year-old Portuguese insisted he is still with the club he steered to triumphs in the Premier League and Champions League in May by scoring 42 goals.
"It is not true that I have agreement with Real Madrid," he said.
He said he did not know where he will begin the season, but he will be sidelined for 10 or 12 weeks while he recovers from Monday's surgery on his right ankle.
He said he would spend a further two weeks on crutches and it would be two months before he could kick a ball.
When Blatter was asked in a Sky News interview Thursday if he felt sympathy for Ronaldo's current position, he said: "Absolutely, absolutely."
He then urged United to sell Ronaldo if he asks to leave.
"We should also protect the player and if the player wants to play somewhere else, then a solution should be found," Blatter said. "Because if he stays in a club where he does not feel comfortable to play then it's not good for the player and for the club ... I'm always in favor to protect the player and if the player, he wants to leave, let him leave."
Blatter suggested that United was unfairly retaining Ronaldo.
"I think in football there is too much modern slavery, transferring players or buying players here and there, and putting them somewhere," he said. "And we are trying now to intervene in such cases."
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^^^^ everytime he opens his mouth now like he getting more an more dotish......slaves huh, de same club that giving you everything you want for d last couple years you have d nerve to even think they treating you like a slave.....just hurry up and fackin go now please.
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Allyuh Man U fans gettin horn real bad now lol.
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LET MY PEOPLE GO!
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Allyuh Man U fans gettin horn real bad now lol.
A spanish man tek way dey gyaul and dey vex...
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I can't remember the last time a 'slave' had the opportunity to sign a 5 year lucrative contract.
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Yea, I'm sure slaves in the cotton fields complained about their 120k a month salary, excluding their five million per year sponsorship package from Nike.
Just goes to show how out of touch Blatter is with reality, considering that he has made an amazing u-turn from comments he made in January about players and agents having 'too much power'.
Btw, if Ronaldo so desperately wants to leave...why has there been no official transfer request? I mean, if he handed one in United could either let him go or refuse...but I'm just wondering why he hasn't handed in an official request if he's bent on leaving.
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Skysports.com understands Portsmouth are close to signing Trinidad and Tobago international Khaleem Hyland.
Pompey have held a long-term interest in the San Juan Jabloteh star and had him over for a trial last year.
The Fratton Park club Pompey were keen on signing on Hyland, but were thwarted in their bid to win a work permit for the midfielder.
Harry Redknapp has kept tabs on the highly-rated youngster and is now ready to tie up a move to bring Hyland to Fratton Park.
Hyland impressed in Trinidad and Tobago's recent friendly defeat to England and Pompey have moved to snap him up ahead of a number of other clubs.
The 19-year-old's agent, Steve Davies has confirmed Portsmouth have tabled an offer for Hyland and that the move is subject to a work permit.
Offer
"Khaleem has been offered a four-year deal by Portsmouth and we are just waiting for a work permit and we don't envisage any problems with that," Davies told skysports.com.
"There were a host of clubs interested in signing Khaleem, but he is happy to go with Portsmouth.
"Portsmouth have held a long-term interest in Khaleem and he is looking forward to the chance of playing in England."
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Congrats, Persistance pays off (Hopefully I haven't said that too early and it all goes through smoothly)
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Yea, I'm sure slaves in the cotton fields complained about their 120k a month salary, excluding their five million per year sponsorship package from Nike.
Just goes to show how out of touch Blatter is with reality, considering that he has made an amazing u-turn from comments he made in January about players and agents having 'too much power'.
Btw, if Ronaldo so desperately wants to leave...why has there been no official transfer request? I mean, if he handed one in United could either let him go or refuse...but I'm just wondering why he hasn't handed in an official request if he's bent on leaving.
Because he is a f^cking coward! F^cking idiot! I think United would have sold him by now if they were not so concerned about how they would look and tha tit may be percieved as them giving into him. Jackarse!
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LET MY PEOPLE GO!
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WE eh letting him go.....SAF gonna let his duncee ass rot on d sidelines...sell him next year :devil:
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WE eh letting him go.....SAF gonna let his duncee ass rot on d sidelines...sell him next year :devil:
At least yuh know Fergie is spiteful and dotish.
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WE eh letting him go.....SAF gonna let his duncee ass rot on d sidelines...sell him next year :devil:
At least yuh know Fergie is spiteful and dotish.
at least we know that if Sir Fergie ever become free, every big club will come running to knock on his door begging
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Pele orders Ronaldo to stay put
Pele insists Cristiano Ronaldo should forget about moving to Real Madrid and honour his Manchester United contract.
The Brazil legend also dismissed Fifa president Sepp Blatter's claim that there is "modern slavery" in football and Ronaldo should be free to move.
Pele, in Stoke for a charity match for the Gordon Banks Foundation, said: "You are a slave if you work without a contract or you don't get paid.
"If you have a contract then in any job you have to finish the contract."
Pele added: "I think that when he finishes his contract, then he should be free to go wherever he wants to go."
Ronaldo has four years left on his Old Trafford contract and is currently recovering from ankle surgery which will rule him out of the start of next season.
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Former England goalkeeper Banks accused Cristiano Ronaldo of showing a lack of respect to Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson.
Banks said he could not understand why Ronaldo, who scored 42 goals for United last season, would want to move away from Old Trafford to Real Madrid.
He said: "I can't understand why he said he felt he was being treated like a slave. If he has just signed a new contract then he should respect his manager and honour it. It's stupid.
"I don't understand what the problem is. He plays for a team that has just won the European Cup and the Premier League. He plays for his country. What more does he want?
"It's like anything in life. If a businessman signs a contract then he has to honour it. It' s no different than a professional footballer."
Banks was speaking at a press conference ahead of a charity match in his honour on Saturday when a Banks XI will take on a Pele XI at Stoke's Britannia Stadium.
The former England keeper pulled off arguably the best save in history from a Pele header at the 1970 World Cup in Mexico.
Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/7503394.stm
Published: 2008/07/12 12:03:03 GMT
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United make Berbatov offer
Manchester United have reportedly made a £20 million bid for the services of Tottenham Hotspur striker Dimitar Berbatov.
Red Devils manager Sir Alex Ferguson expects to have the deal completed within the next week after he made his opening offer.
Ferguson plans to use the Spurs star, a proven Premier League goalscorer, alongside Wayne Rooney in the attack next season.
Berbatov has been a great interest of Ferguson's this year but it is only now that he has made an offer for the player.
The Old Trafford outfit are confident they will be able to lure the Bulgarian away from Spurs, as they can offer the promise of Champions League football and a salary of up to £80,000 per week.
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8338258/United-make-Berbatov-offer
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Yea, I'm sure slaves in the cotton fields complained about their 120k a month salary, excluding their five million per year sponsorship package from Nike.
Just goes to show how out of touch Blatter is with reality, considering that he has made an amazing u-turn from comments he made in January about players and agents having 'too much power'.
Btw, if Ronaldo so desperately wants to leave...why has there been no official transfer request? I mean, if he handed one in United could either let him go or refuse...but I'm just wondering why he hasn't handed in an official request if he's bent on leaving.
You mean a week not a month.
Why does he not just put in a transfer request - easy money.
The majority of players now have a "loyalty bonus" ( I know don't laugh) built into their contracts which tends to be a fairly hefty figure. It basically means if they ask for a transfer its lost, however if they don't ask for a transfer and are sold by the club, the club still has to pay the "loyalty bonus".
This has really stopped players asking for transfers but results in the various fiasco's you see now, where a player / agent will come out suggesting he wants to move but won't put in a transfer request.
A good example was Joey Barton's move from Man City to Newcastle, Barton had a release clause put in his contract taht he would be allowed to leave if a club offered £5 Million and as with these things everybody gets to know what the figure is so they can bid that figure. The transfer was held up because Man City ( rightly in my view) refused to pay Barton his £300,000 "loyalty bonus" because although he didn't ask for a transfer he and his representatives insisted on the release clause and had in effect triggered the move so he was not due his "loyalty bonus". In the end the fee was increased by £300,000 so in effect Newcastle paid the "loyalty bonus".
At some point I don't know when it will be the clubs will have to reach a tipping point where enough is enough it may well take a couple of high profile bankrupties to do it. Fans in general are getting pretty fed up of players, even of their own clubs.
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i don't know if allyuh following the arshavin saga, but is just kicks and more kicks by the day.
first to begin with, after the euros, meh boy was de hottest ting on de market. 27 yrs old and people calling figures like 20 mil pounds and up. Arsenal wanted him, Chelsea wanted him, Spurs ask ah question.. Meh boy say nah, "I want to go barcelona and barcelona alone!! Arsenal who?"
agent and player buss real style.. then the club say they want a 25 mil pounds and like all dem clubs say nah, dey could hdmc with that..
now like de trail gone cold and nobody want to spend de paper. and look how de tune changing now.. :rotfl:
Agent: Arshavin keen on Wenger
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8345680/Agent:-Arshavin-keen-on-Wenger
Andrei Arshavin's agent believes Arsenal could be an ideal destination for the Russian ace due to the influence of Gunners boss Arsene Wenger.
Dennis Lachter told reports his client is a keen admirer of the Frenchman, saying: "The stable situation in the club and the influence of Arsene Wenger to Arsenal and to English football is huge. I think this is an advantage."
He added: "If Arsenal go for Arshavin it could be really good for both parties. Arsenal is a very young team and Arshavin is 27.
"There's something about combining young and older players, they propagate attacking football."
Arshavin was one of the stars of Euro 2008, and his two goals helped Russia to an unlikely place in the semi-finals, where they lost to eventual European champions Spain.
The Zenit St Petersburg player was subject of interest from Spanish giants Barcelona but it now appears he has his sights set on a move to London.
Lachter also suggested that new Barca manager Pep Guardiola's lack of experience could impact on his client's desire to join the Camp Nou giants.
"Guardiola was an excellent player, but no one knows what kind of a manager he is," he said.
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Doh know, but they pricing de man out of the market. He could go for about 15 million pounds; that good enough. They know they will make a killing, but ah guess they trying to recoup the astronomical salary Arshavin was getting for playing at a Russian club.
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Imagine Alves get signed for more than they sell R10 for.
That Barca front office is a joke.
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Ronaldinho to sign for AC Milan
Ronaldinho is set to bid farewell to Barcelona
Manchester City have lost out to Italian side AC Milan in the race to sign Barcelona playmaker Ronaldinho.
"AC Milan and Barcelona have reached an agreement in principle over the transfer of Ronaldinho," the Serie A club said on their website.
"The player will be in Milan on Wednesday to undergo a medical and sign a contract that will keep him at Milan until 30 June 2011."
City had reportedly bid £25.5m for the 28-year-old Brazilian.
But Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport reported on its website that Milan will pay Spanish side Barcelona just £14.6m for his services, with the figure likely to be increased by performance-related bonuses.
606: DEBATE
It is clear his heart lies with Milan rather than Manchester
BBC Sport's Phil McNulty
Milan chief executive Adriano Galliani has been in Barcelona for talks with the club and the player for two days.
The two-time Fifa World Player of the Year's time at Barcelona effectively came to an end in June when new manager Pep Guardiola announced the playmaker was surplus to requirements.
Nevertheless, the Catalans were not prepared to release Ronaldinho to join Dunga's Brazil squad for next month's Beijing Olympics.
Ronaldinho helped Barcelona win back-to-back Spanish league titles (2004-05, 2005-06) and the Champions League in 2006, but failed to cement a regular place in the starting XI last season because of injury and fitness issues.
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from soccernet.com
Arsenal's Hleb heading to Barcelona for medical
Updated: July 16, 2008, 7:53 AM ET
Arsenal midfielder Alexander Hleb is on the verge of completing a move to Barcelona, the Catalan club have confirmed.
The 27-year-old Belarus international is set to arrive in the city at lunchtime before undergoing a medical later in the day.
Barca confirmed Hleb could be presented as early as tomorrow and reports in Spain suggest they will pay the Gunners £11.9million.
'The player Alexander Hleb, who has spent the past three seasons at Arsenal, arrives today in Barcelona to undergo a medical prior to his incorporation in FC Barcelona,' read a statement on the club website, www.fcbarcelona.com.
'From 1pm, the player will be in the offices of the club to take part in the usual photocall.
'Then, at 4pm, the footballer will have a medical in the Hospital de Barcelona and, from 7pm, will continue these tests in the Medical Centre of FC Barcelona.
'On the assumption that he passes these tests satisfactorily, Alexander Hleb could sign a contract tomorrow and be presented as a new player at FC Barcelona.'
If all goes to plan, Hleb will become Barca's fifth summer signing following the arrivals of Seydou Keita, Gerard Pique, Martin Caceres and Daniel Alves.
Hleb's departure from the Emirates Stadium has seemed likely all summer after the player admitted he was 'mentally tired' of the combination of living in London and playing top-level football.
Inter Milan were also linked but their interest appeared to cool after the appointment of Jose Mourinho as manager.
Hleb cost £11.2million when he joined Arsenal from Stuttgart in 2005.
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Arsenal confirm Gilberto's Greek move
LONDON(AFP) - Arsenal confirmed on Thursday that Brazil midfielder Gilberto Silva has completed his one million pounds (1.2 million euros) move to Greek club Panathinaikos.
Former Arsenal captain Gilberto ended his six-year spell with Arsene Wenger's side after passing a medical in Athens.
The 31-year-old has signed a three-year deal worth an estimated six million pounds (7.5 million euros), making him the highest paid player in Greek football.
But Gilberto, who was greeted by over 1,000 fans when he arrived in Greece, insisted he is motivated by the chance to win titles and not the size of his bank balance.
"I'm hungry to win more titles. I came to Greece because I have big ambitions, it's very important for me to be able to continue to give my best," he said. "(Panathinaikos manager) Henk ten Cate is a coach I know from his time at Chelsea and I'm looking forward to working with him.
"The people here at Panathinaikos made the decision to come here very easy.
"I'm sure we will qualify through to the group stages of the Champions League and I'm exited about being a Panathinaikos player."
Gilberto, a World Cup winner in 2002, was a member of the "invincible" Arsenal team that won the 2004 Premier League title after going unbeaten through the entire campaign.
He made 244 appearances for Arsenal, scoring 24 goals, and also won the FA Cup in 2003 and 2005.
"Arsenal can confirm that Gilberto has joined Greek side Panathinaikos," a statement on the club's website read.
"Everyone at Arsenal would like to thank Gilberto for his huge contribution to the club both on and off the pitch, and wish him the very best for the future."
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Barcelona could be set to table a shock bid for Chelsea target Robinho, according to the player's agent Wagner Ribeiro.
Speculation has been rife that the Real Madrid forward is on his way to the Premier League, with Chelsea admitting their interest and Manchester United also linked.
Ribeiro claimed on Tuesday that the Blues were winning the race, with Robinho attracted by the idea of linking up with their new boss, fellow Brazilian Luiz Felipe Scolari.
But reports in Spain suggest that Madrid's bitter rivals Barca could be preparing a bid, with both club president Joan Laporta and coach Pep Guardiola in favour of the idea.
And Ribeiro insists the notion is not a surprise to him.
'It's only logical that a club like Barcelona want Robinho,' he told Spanish sports daily El Mundo Deportivo.
'He is also wanted by Chelsea and Manchester United.
'Chelsea have presented a big offer for Robinho to Real Madrid, but it seems as if the club don't want to sell him.'
Chelsea have reportedly made an offer of £48million for the 24-year-old - something the Blues deny - who has also been mooted as a possible makeweight in a deal to bring United's Cristiano Ronaldo to the Spanish capital.
However, it is believed Madrid are reluctant to let Robinho go until the Ronaldo saga reaches its conclusion, and Ribeiro has reiterated his client's claim that he is be happy in Madrid.
'Robinho has a contract at Real Madrid,' he added. 'And for that reason he is not looking to leave the club.'
COME ON!!! GET DIS THING DONE ASAP!!! WE DONE HAVE D #10 SHIRT WAITIN BINHO!!!!
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Ferguson says Ronaldo is staying
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7514329.stm
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has insisted Cristiano Ronaldo will be at Old Trafford next season and will not be joining Real Madrid.
Ferguson met the winger - now out for three months following ankle surgery - in Lisbon last week after speculation about the 23-year-old's future.
"It went well. We put across our points of view, where we stand and where the player stands," explained Ferguson.
"I can say he'll be a Manchester United player next season. He won't be sold."
United will hope that Ferguson's comments at a press conference during the club's pre-season tour of South Africa will put an end to rumours linking Ronaldo with a switch to the Spanish champions.
Ferguson added: "It's not a difficult position. I was on my holiday and I was not going to interrupt my holiday, believe me.
"I wasn't panicked because the player is under contract so the strength and the rights are with Manchester United.
"What we have done well is to say nothing. We've kept quiet on this matter and kept it private and what I said to Cristiano remains private."
Ronaldo, who scored 42 goals for United last season and whose contract runs until 2012, is currently recuperating after his surgery, which ruled him out of United's trip to South Africa.
Ferguson confirmed: "I did go and see him last week in Portugal and it was very amicable - there were no problems. That's where we are and we carry on.
"He's on crutches for the first four weeks, he'll be in rehabilitation for the next four and then the following four he'll be back into football training.
"The time mapped out is three months and we won't bring him back a day earlier than that.
"I think when players have operations we have a responsibility that the player comes back 100% and we'll carry that out as we normally do.
"There'll be no risk-taking - we never take risks. Our goal is to always make sure that the player gets back 100% and that will be the same in the case of Cristiano Ronaldo."
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Well, thats this thread done....for another year at least.
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steups, i sour.. i wanted him gone for fantasy league purposes.. andre samuel must be rejoicing for his set-in-stone captain.
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steups, i sour.. i wanted him gone for fantasy league purposes.. andre samuel must be rejoicing for his set-in-stone captain.
lol
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He stayin, I hope the fans give him shite! I may have to make a special trip to join in!
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steups, i sour.. i wanted him gone for fantasy league purposes.. andre samuel must be rejoicing for his set-in-stone captain.
he's out till october so he wont serve any purpose till then, plus who knows how long it will take him to get back in gear esp when manu fans booing him at home lol
:devil:
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a lil something for venerable, giggsy and de rest of de prawn sandwich eaters who was crying over Real Madrid's "approach" in the whole Ronaldo saga.. I thought Calderon was de worst?!
Spurs report Liverpool & Man Utd
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7514933.stm
Tottenham have complained to the Premier League over Manchester United and Liverpool's pursuit of Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane.
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments that he expects a deal to go through for Berbatov have infuriated Spurs as has Rafael Benitez's interest in Keane.
Spurs chairman Daniel Levy singled out United boss Ferguson for criticism.
"It is unbelievably hypocritical given his comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid," Levy said.
"The behaviour of both clubs has been disgraceful. We told both clubs very early on that we had no interest in selling Robbie or Dimitar, respectively, and that they should refrain from pursuing the player.
"Both clubs arrogantly chose to ignore this request and we now have evidence that both clubs have systematically been working to prise the players away from us, outside of Premier League rules of conduct."
Ferguson announced on Friday that United had made Tottenham an offer for 27-year-old Berbatov and that he was confident that the deal would through.
Benitez admitted earlier this month that he was interested in bringing Keane, 28, to Anfield this summer.
I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either
But it was Ferguson's comments that prompted Levy to speak out about the attempts to unsettle his star strike force.
"Today's public comments by Manchester United's manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players.
"It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date
"As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the Premier League about the conduct of Manchester United.
"Benitez made similar comments in respect of Robbie recently and we made an official complaint to the Premier League about the conduct of Liverpool earlier this week.
"I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either."
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Good find Omar ;D
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eto'o and torres hmm :thinking:
The Cameroonian striker is being offered to Europe's major clubs and many have already previously made contact to ask about his annual salary and transfer fee.
While all those enquiries have failed to lead to a single concrete offer, Barça are determined to sell Eto'o this summer and may lower their demands in the coming weeks.
That would allow Liverpool to make their move and Rafa Benítez believes that the powerful 27-year-old could form an incredible partnership alongside Fernando Torres.
Finances at Anfield may be tight, but following the sale of Peter Crouch to Portsmouth, there maybe some room for negotiation with the Catalan giants.
Manager Rafa Benítez is said to want Keane, but Tottenham will not let their captain go cheaply and his asking price could even rise above the amount Barça are requesting for their striker.
Eto'o has flown back to Barcelona after a promotional trip to Uzbekistan and is due to return to pre-season training with the Blaugrana on Saturday.
Talks are set to be held between the player, his agent, José María Mesalles, and Barcelona and they are predicted to not be easy as the striker has done nothing himself to push for an exit.
Liverpool would be a destination that could attract Eto'o, however, and the promise of Champions League football is the key thing in his list of priorities of any would-be suitor.
Pep Guardiola has stated that if no deal can be done and the goalscorer remains then he will have no problems incorporating him into his squad for the new season.
Barcelona's board have said on various occasions that they want to off-load the forward, who joined the club four years ago from Real Mallorca, and buy a replacement.
Lucas Brown, Goal.com
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hahaha.... We made a formal bid... Fergie responded to the media...yes we have made a bid
Madrid..no bid... continue to talk for months now ... this public Berbatov thing only occurred 3 days ago..
Back to the topic:
Ronaldo to Stay at Old Trafford
Sir Alex Ferguson has met with Cristiano Ronaldo and insists the Manchester United winger will not be sold to Real Madrid.
The Portugal international has been targeted by the Spanish giants throughout the summer, and had hinted that he was looking to secure a move away from Old Trafford.
But at a press conference in South Africa to mark the start of United's pre-season trip, Ferguson confirmed Ronaldo is going nowhere.
No sale
The Red Devils boss said: "The meeting went well - I think we both put across our points of view - where we stand and where the player stands.
"I can say he'll be a Manchester United player next season. That's our stance - he won't be sold."
Asked why he had not commented on the matter until now, Ferguson replied: "It's not a difficult position. I was on my holiday and I was not going to interrupt my holiday, believe me.
"I wasn't panicked because the player is under contract so the strength and the rights are with Manchester United.
"What we have done well is to say nothing. We've kept quiet on this matter and kept it private and what I said to Cristiano remains private. I did go and see him last week in Portugal and it was very amicable - there were no problems. That's where we are and we carry on."
No risks
Ronaldo is currently recovering from ankle surgery and Ferguson confirmed he is unlikely to be back in action until October.
He said: "He's had an operation and he'll be out for three months. He's on crutches for the first four weeks, he'll be in rehabilitation for the next four and then the following four he'll be back into football training. The time mapped out is three months and we won't bring him back a day earlier than that.
"I think when players have operations we have a responsibility that the player comes back 100 per cent and we'll carry that out as we normally do.
"There'll be no risk-taking - we never take risks. Our goal is to always make sure that the player gets back 100 per cent and that will be the same in the case of Cristiano Ronaldo."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3834791,00.html
f**k Madrid..Calderon ..Platini and Sepp
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maybe Levy need to check with Ramos about Berbatov not being for sale. Didn't he recently say he would not be oppose to selling Keane or Berbatov so he can replace them with younger players? Correct me if I am wrong.
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I think Levy just setting ting up for when they both leave, he talking about how both players have their heads turn and as a result it will be hard to keep them. That is his excuse to the fans when he sell.
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FOOTBALLER Cristiano Ronaldo is being lined up to star in a multi-million dollar remake of the epic TV series Roots.
Ronaldo has demanded £3.5m per episode.
Producers say the star's treatment at the hands of Manchester United make him the perfect choice to portray the young African slave who is beaten by his brutal masters.
The Portuguese winger said he had been traumatised by 'outrageous' demands that he honour the £125,000 a week, legally-binding contract, which has brought him only, misery, adulation and Gemma Atkinson.
Speaking from the titanium gazebo in the rose garden of his 31-room mansion, Ronaldo said: "I feel I can relate to the suffering of African slaves.
"If anything, it is worse, because footballers cannot sing while we work, whereas they had time to develop gospel music during their 16-hours shifts before dropping dead from exhaustion."
In the series a young African boy is dragged from his homeland and shipped to America where he is forced to work in the fields by a cruel and violent plantation owner.
"The similarities are uncanny, though admittedly, the Lear Jet that flew me from Lisbon to Manchester wasn't packed with 150 other players sleeping head-to-toe."
Ronaldo also conceded that, while the slave-master in Roots administered brutal beatings, Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson had nurtured his talent, lavished him with praise and turned him into one of the best footballers in the world.
"But without the freedom to do whatever I want, wherever I want, for whatever fee I want, I am exactly the same as a cotton picker forced to live in a shed, dying at the age of 32."
He added: "I know the people will love my acting. Already, in the streets, I hear many of them calling me 'K u n t a'."
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Jay al yuh fellas real talented all yuh loosin money by postin dem gems here
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He eh gone yet? Steups!
From de time he start playing coy...i wasnt saying nothing....and asking 100 million euros.....else he eh moving. Real woulda have to give a counter proposal...buh even if i doh get 100 million...the fee hadda be record breaking.
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3846773,00.html
Makelele leaves Blues for PSG
Midfielder to be unveiled on Monday
Paris Saint Germain have confirmed Chelsea midfielder Claude Makelele is set to join the club.
A move back to France for Makelele has been mooted for some time and now PSG have confirmed the imminent capture of the 35-year-old.
Chelsea have allowed Makelele to move on after five successful seasons at Stamford Bridge.
A statement on Chelsea's website read: "Everyone at Chelsea would like to take this opportunity to thank Claude for the five years of service he has given to the club.
"He has been a key part of our trophy success during that time and we wish him well for the future.
"He will always be welcomed back to Stamford Bridge in the future either as a
player or as a friend of the club."
The deal is a coup for PSG as they look to transform their fortunes after a poor campaign last term which saw them narrowly avoid relegation.
Makelele is expected to be unveiled by PSG later on Monday and he will link up with former France team-mate Ludovic Giuly at Parc Des Princes.
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this is worst than ronaldinho leaving barca.. :'(
Makelele leaves Chelsea for PSG
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7516798.stm
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44848000/jpg/_44848989_makelele_new282.jpg)
Veteran French midfielder Claude Makelele has been released on a free transfer by Chelsea, allowing him to sign for Paris St Germain.
The 35-year-old, who spent five years at Stamford Bridge, will be unveiled by PSG at a news conference on Monday.
"Everyone at Chelsea would like to thank Claude for the service he has given us," said a club statement.
Makelele joined Chelsea from Spanish giants Real Madrid in 2003, costing the Stamford Bridge outfit £16.8m.
He won two Premier League titles and played 217 times for Chelsea, scoring two goals in the process.
The statement added: "Claude has been a key part of our trophy success and we wish him well for the future.
"He will always be welcomed back to Stamford Bridge in the future either as a player or friend of the club."
Makelele's last match for the club was their Champions League final defeat by Manchester United in Moscow in May.
He retired from international football - for the second time - in June after their disappointing exit from Euro 2008, after winning 71 caps.
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a lil something for venerable, giggsy and de rest of de prawn sandwich eaters who was crying over Real Madrid's "approach" in the whole Ronaldo saga.. I thought Calderon was de worst?!
Spurs report Liverpool & Man Utd
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7514933.stm
Tottenham have complained to the Premier League over Manchester United and Liverpool's pursuit of Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane.
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments that he expects a deal to go through for Berbatov have infuriated Spurs as has Rafael Benitez's interest in Keane.
Spurs chairman Daniel Levy singled out United boss Ferguson for criticism.
"It is unbelievably hypocritical given his comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid," Levy said.
"The behaviour of both clubs has been disgraceful. We told both clubs very early on that we had no interest in selling Robbie or Dimitar, respectively, and that they should refrain from pursuing the player.
"Both clubs arrogantly chose to ignore this request and we now have evidence that both clubs have systematically been working to prise the players away from us, outside of Premier League rules of conduct."
Ferguson announced on Friday that United had made Tottenham an offer for 27-year-old Berbatov and that he was confident that the deal would through.
Benitez admitted earlier this month that he was interested in bringing Keane, 28, to Anfield this summer.
I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either
But it was Ferguson's comments that prompted Levy to speak out about the attempts to unsettle his star strike force.
"Today's public comments by Manchester United's manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players.
"It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date
"As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the Premier League about the conduct of Manchester United.
"Benitez made similar comments in respect of Robbie recently and we made an official complaint to the Premier League about the conduct of Liverpool earlier this week.
"I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either."
1. United do no use media outlets (Marca) to unsettle players.
2. United submitted an official bid for Tottenham to accept or reject (Madrid did not)
3. Ferguson denies any claims that he made comments about Berbatov. He admits to saying that United tabled a bid and that the decision lay with Tottenham.
4. Fergie was misquoted by a tabloid famous for printing misinformation (The Sun)
5. Levy based his outburst on said newspaper article (not a smart thing to do)
And to kill this pointless debate dead...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24048310-23215,00.html
Sorry to burst your proverbial bubble.
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And just to highlight what a circus of a club Real Madrid really are...
http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3842972,00.html
:rotfl:
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More from Tottenham on Man U.....
from soccernet.com
Berbatov dossier handed in to PL by Spurs
Updated: July 21, 2008, 11:07 AM ET
Tottenham have given the Premier League a dossier of evidence from over the last year to back up their complaint against Manchester United's pursuit of Dimitar Berbatov.
Sir Alex Ferguson has questioned the validity of comments attributed to him last week regarding the Bulgaria striker but that is understood to be only one of Spurs' concerns in the past 12 months.
Spurs have been angered by United and Liverpool, who are chasing Robbie Keane, and the two clubs will write back in response to the complaints before it is decided whether they will face a charge.
Spurs chairman Daniel Levy has accepted that Berbatov and Keane want to leave White Hart Lane but there is expected to be a fall-out from the transfers if they go through, given that Ferguson has been accused of 'sheer arrogance' and being 'hypocritical'.
Spurs believe United have broken Premier League rules in the last year and are confident their evidence will support their complaint.
Berbatov, 27, interested United before moving to Spurs from Bayer Leverkusen in 2006 and has been consistently linked with a move to Old Trafford for Champions League football since his successful rookie season in England.
Levy's criticism of Liverpool in his statement last week was less harsh than he was on United, although he has been upset by Rafael Benitez before. In March 2006 the Liverpool boss claimed Spurs were 'desperate' to sell Jermain Defoe and take Djibril Cisse.
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
then i wonder what's comprising the dossier of evidence from over the last year?
surely not just one article in the Sun. And how come you so quick to admonish Man Utd from all culpability and throw the blame on the Sun, but anything written in the Marca you interpret like it come straight from the mouths of Real Madrid??
don't be so quick to dismiss the allegations altogether just because you reading them with de rose tinted spectacles.. :beermug:
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
then i wonder what's comprising the dossier of evidence from over the last year?
surely not just one article in the Sun. And how come you so quick to admonish Man Utd from all culpability and throw the blame on the Sun, but anything written in the Marca you interpret like it come straight from the mouths of Real Madrid??
don't be so quick to dismiss the allegations altogether just because you reading them with de rose tinted spectacles.. :beermug:
You forget that Marca are directly associated with Real Madrid.
The Sun are not.
I'm glad we put that to bed.
If there was anything incriminating from last year, wouldn't they have submitted then to the FA and accused United of tapping? ::)
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
then i wonder what's comprising the dossier of evidence from over the last year?
surely not just one article in the Sun. And how come you so quick to admonish Man Utd from all culpability and throw the blame on the Sun, but anything written in the Marca you interpret like it come straight from the mouths of Real Madrid??
don't be so quick to dismiss the allegations altogether just because you reading them with de rose tinted spectacles.. :beermug:
You forget that Marca are directly associated with Real Madrid.
The Sun are not.
I'm glad we put that to bed.
If there was anything incriminating from last year, wouldn't they have submitted then to the FA and accused United of tapping? ::)
Isn't that what they are doing now, by handing over the dossier of alleged infractions to the FA??
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
then i wonder what's comprising the dossier of evidence from over the last year?
surely not just one article in the Sun. And how come you so quick to admonish Man Utd from all culpability and throw the blame on the Sun, but anything written in the Marca you interpret like it come straight from the mouths of Real Madrid??
don't be so quick to dismiss the allegations altogether just because you reading them with de rose tinted spectacles.. :beermug:
You forget that Marca are directly associated with Real Madrid.
The Sun are not.
I'm glad we put that to bed.
If there was anything incriminating from last year, wouldn't they have submitted then to the FA and accused United of tapping? ::)
Isn't that what they are doing now, by handing over the dossier of alleged infractions to the FA??
You don't report a crime a year after it ocurred, you report it the moment it happens.
Spurs are using this to placate the fans. A sort of 'Look! He never wanted to play for us! And United tapped him up!" which will incur less wrath from the fans when they do sell Berbatov (to whoever) and Keane.
I'm sure the FA are going to ask Spurs why they waited a year to come out with events that took place a year ago.
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You don't report a crime a year after it ocurred, you report it the moment it happens.
Spurs are using this to placate the fans. A sort of 'Look! He never wanted to play for us! And United tapped him up!" which will incur less wrath from the fans when they do sell Berbatov (to whoever) and Keane.
And what would United's beef with Madrid have been if Sneijder decided to make the move and Madrid forked over ridiculous money? United's complaint is no different to Spurs and it has very little to do with the fans. Both clubs are saying we are happy to keep him but if you want him pay up.
All the dossier submission business is just to make a statement because clubs don't have to actually meet with players/agents to influence them and "tapping up" can't really be proven. United, Spurs and Madrid know that.
Nothing wrong with backing your side but you sound silly when you try to explain a difference between the Madrid-United and United-Spurs situations.
For the past 18 months, since the middle of Berbatov's first Spurs season (coincidentally the middle of Ronaldo's first phenomenal season), there has been talk about interest from United and Madrid in the respective players. Both players had their heads turned as early as last summer by the two clubs and the intensity of speculation (fueled by United and Madrid) increased all season.
No difference between the two cases.
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
then i wonder what's comprising the dossier of evidence from over the last year?
surely not just one article in the Sun. And how come you so quick to admonish Man Utd from all culpability and throw the blame on the Sun, but anything written in the Marca you interpret like it come straight from the mouths of Real Madrid??
don't be so quick to dismiss the allegations altogether just because you reading them with de rose tinted spectacles.. :beermug:
You forget that Marca are directly associated with Real Madrid.
Marca is a Spanish Newspaper with a heavy football focus- Yes their headquarters are in the city of Madrid, and yes they are kinda notorious for shining the bad light on Barca when they get a chance.....But it's a national newspaper that is supposedly the most widely read in all of Spain.....they are not "directly associated with Real Madrid" as you put it...despite an apparent bias....
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Allyuh takin on de Man U sheep?
A setta hypocrites.
Ah hope Fergie get burned :devil:
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3852117,00.html
Raul hits back at Fergie
Real skipper defends club's reputation
Real Madrid captain Raul has spoken out in defence of the club after Sir Alex Ferguson stated that joining the club would be the worst thing that Cristiano Ronaldo could do for his career.
Los Merengues icon Raul was stunned by the Scotsman's outburst and believes that playing for the Spanish giants would be the pinnacle for any player.
The public tussle over Ronaldo continued with Ferguson's words and Raul felt that he could not let the comments pass without responding.
Best thing
"Joining Madrid is the best thing that could happen to anyone," Raul told Marca. "I have been here for 14 years and I would not change anything."
With rumour and counter-rumour a daily occurrence as the media try to be the first to predict whether Ronaldo will stay or leave United, the soundbytes from both camps are increasing.
Ferguson's statement came on the same day that the Premier League giants were given some encouragement by their player that he would stay as he talked about the team improving next term.
Madrid president Ramon Calderon has also continued to keep the saga in the papers with comments, but his optimism has waned of late and the club have now reportedly asked about Kaka.
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And what would United's beef with Madrid have been if Sneijder decided to make the move and Madrid forked over ridiculous money? United's complaint is no different to Spurs and it has very little to do with the fans. Both clubs are saying we are happy to keep him but if you want him pay up.
Ifs and buts. Concentrate on the facts.
Sneidjer has nothing to do with anything at the moment.
You forget something, Madrid never submitted a bid for Ronaldo, nor did they make any official approach (i.e. an approach with Uniteds consent) but continuously went on record saying they had agreed terms with the player and that he wanted to join, ignoring the fact that Ronaldo never handed in an official transfer request and there is also the small matter of United turning down their offer and not giving them permission to talk to him (which they did anyway).
In the case of Berbatov, united haven't spoken to him as they haven't been granted permission to do so. They are allowed, however, to submit an official bid to Spurs. Which they did. Nothing illegal there. Nor as Berbatov gone on record saying that he wants to actually sign for United, he has indicated that he wants to leave but he hasn't said where.
All Spurs have is a couple of quotes from a disreputable tabloid which Ferguson has categorically denied saying.
For the past 18 months, since the middle of Berbatov's first Spurs season (coincidentally the middle of Ronaldo's first phenomenal season), there has been talk about interest from United and Madrid in the respective players. Both players had their heads turned as early as last summer by the two clubs and the intensity of speculation (fueled by United and Madrid) increased all season.
But they never spoke to Berbatov last year or his agent. In fact, they made inquiries with Spurs themselves and they flatly told United he was not for sale and that was that. Berbatov is now saying he wants to leave and so United contacted Spurs and submitted a bid which, ironically, Spurs have yet to reject. In this case, United have dealt with Spurs directly...Madrid have not, which is illegal.
In the case of Madrid, they have used Marca as a mouthpiece and have had their players running to the media saying 'Ronaldo would do weel at Madrid, we hope he comes'. They have also claimed to have a contract ready for him and a verbal agreement, despite the fact that United have had no bids from Madrid nor have they had a transfer request from Ronaldo and despite the fact that united have told them that they do not have permission to talk to him.
As you can see, its not the same.
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Venerable, you're just speculating at the end of the day..
none of us are privy to the facts surrounding either the Ronaldo case or the Berbatov case.. No one knows what goes on or what discussions take place behind closed doors, or in shady upper class restaurants..
Unless of course you're holding a copy of the dossier submitted by Spurs in which case i respectfully beg you to post a copy for us here to read.
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none of us are privy to the facts surrounding either the Ronaldo case or the Berbatov case.. No one knows what goes on or what discussions take place behind closed doors, or in shady upper class restaurants..
Right, so using your logic...none of us should be talking about it.
Thank you for clearing that up for us.
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Misquoted.
http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3852571,00.html
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Levy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
He's basing all of this on some article in The Sun. Ferguson and Uniteds press officer have denied making such claims. The club made an official bid and followed procedure.
Levy is just trying to create a situation like this so the fans anger will not be directed at United should Berbatov agree to sign.
then i wonder what's comprising the dossier of evidence from over the last year?
surely not just one article in the Sun. And how come you so quick to admonish Man Utd from all culpability and throw the blame on the Sun, but anything written in the Marca you interpret like it come straight from the mouths of Real Madrid??
don't be so quick to dismiss the allegations altogether just because you reading them with de rose tinted spectacles.. :beermug:
You forget that Marca are directly associated with Real Madrid.
The Sun are not.
I'm glad we put that to bed.
If there was anything incriminating from last year, wouldn't they have submitted then to the FA and accused United of tapping? ::)
Isn't that what they are doing now, by handing over the dossier of alleged infractions to the FA??
Isn't this called building a case, whereby they can show a pattern of behavior by Man United.
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Barcelona Still Want Trezeguet – Report
Goal.com
According to Spanish daily Sport, Josep Guardiola wants David Trezeguet in his Blaugrana team.
After selling some top players including Ronaldinho, Deco, and Zambrotta, the Camp Nou side are looking to bring Trezeguet to La Liga.
The French player enjoyed a great season with the Bianconeri and he scored 20 goals, helping the Old Lady to a surprising third position in Serie A.
The arrival of Amauri has lead to speculation that the number 17’s days at the Olimpico are numbered because Ranieri may prefer the Italian-Brazilian player to the French striker.
Trezeguet has been followed by the Spanish team for quite some time and last month the Camp Nou side had a €25 million offer rejected.
The player has always claimed that he wants to finish his career with the Old lady and win something important with the club he has played for since 2000.
Now with the right offer from the Blaugrana, the Bianconeri could be tempted to sale the player, even though it would be very difficult to find a replacement who can score 15-20 goals a season
Guardiola is trying to form the attacking partnership which made France successful over the years by reforming the duo Tregeuet - Thierry Henry who had both played together at Monaco
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Goal.com
sigh
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sigh is rite..i doh try to take dem on eh but dey gettin under mih skin wit dey 'Giovinco to de EPL stories'...where d internet police wen yuh need dem
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ah doh rate him too much but he has a knack of being in the right place at the right time
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Oleguer from Barca to Ajax...somebody send Ajax some wine or something for taking him off we hands. bless
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Oleguer from Barca to Ajax...somebody send Ajax some wine or something for taking him off we hands. bless
Wow!
i thought i would never have seen this day..
Oleguer is one ah dem barca-for-lifers.. and was a poster boy for Catalunya.
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Give Ronaldo what he wants, says Tevez
Updated: July 24, 2008, 11:04 AM UK
Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez has broken ranks by claiming Cristiano Ronaldo should be allowed to join Real Madrid if he wishes.
Click here
Ronaldo has been the transfer story of the summer, with the Portugal winger expressing his desire to play for Real, who in turn have made him their number one target.
'I understand Cristiano,' Tevez told AS. 'Every footballer wants to play at Real Madrid. On the other hand, I also think that everyone wants to play for Manchester United, but if what he seeks is something else, I think that should be respected.'
United have been furious with Real's public pursuit of the player, once again reiterating this week that they have no intention of selling their prize asset.
But Old Trafford team-mate Tevez has risked incurring the wrath of Sir Alex Ferguson by claiming the European champions should not stand in Ronaldo's way if he wants to leave.
'The (United) team has great players, including Cristiano Ronaldo, of course,' Tevez added.
'It's clear that he is a very important player for us, but this is a personal decision, which is up to only him.
'I have not talked to him, but when these things happen, neither side feels good.'
Meanwhile, United legend Paul Scholes has warned Cristiano Ronaldo about leaving Manchester United and believes players should be thankful that they are playing for such an illustrious club.
'If players fancy a move and a bit of money, then good luck to them, but when they're at a place like this, I don't think they realise how lucky they are to be playing here,' Scholes said.
'It's always a step down [after United]. There are obviously big clubs in the world, but while certain people think it might be a progression if they move somewhere else, when you leave here I don't think it is.'
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can anyone say doghouse
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You forget that Marca are directly associated with Real Madrid.
uhm..no it's not. don't make stuff up now
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Sir Alex rubbishes rumours of Ronaldo's partying
Soccer.net
Sir Alex Ferguson has dismissed as 'a load of rubbish' reports that star player Cristiano Ronaldo has been partying excessively during his rehabilitation from ankle surgery.
The Portuguese winger has been spending time in the USA as he continues to recover from an operation, but while his recreational activities have been the subject of media speculation, Ferguson insists his visit is business orientated.
The Scot has also rejected suggestions that the 23-year-old, who remains the focus of intense interest from Spanish giants Real Madrid, has been drinking after revealing United have a representative in Ronaldo's party.
'He was always scheduled to have this time off in Los Angeles. There was no harm in going there,' said Ferguson. 'He was doing some commercial things. We have someone out there with him.
'All the stuff we have been seeing of him, well, it's a load of rubbish. He's not a drinker for a start. There was a report he had been drinking vodka but I spoke to the person we have with him and he said it's rubbish.
'He is not drinking. It's absolute nonsense.'
Ferguson conceded that Ronaldo faced a challenge in coping with the added celebrity that his stellar season last term brought, but refused to be drawn on comparisons with former Red Devils star David Beckham, whose lifestyle was believed to be one of the reasons Ferguson sold him to Madrid.
'As far as comparisons with him and David Beckham are concerned, I am not going to discuss that,' said Ferguson. 'Any young player is going to get attention. The important thing is how they handle that.
'We know success changes people but the change you like to see is an elevation in esteem and personality, which makes them better players a lot of the time.
'Cristiano is now reaching that stage with his maturity, personality and the presence he has had on the world stage. We should help him.'
Schuster concerned by Ronaldo obsession
MADRID, July 27 (Reuters) - Real Madrid coach Bernd Schuster is concerned that his club's obsession with signing Cristiano Ronaldo could cause them to miss out on buying other players.
'As you all know at this club we have been obsessed with signing a player whose name I can't quite remember at the moment,' Schuster told reporters at the club's pre-season training base in Austria on Saturday.
'When you start something like this you know that if you don't sort it out quickly then it might be too late to sign another player.
'We have had plans in place for several months ready for any movement, for any solution, but the truth is that as time passes you are running the risk that Plan B might have become a little difficult.'
Although he said Ronaldo would fit perfectly into the Real Madrid squad, Schuster admitted that he understood manager Alex Ferguson's reluctance to let the Portugal winger leave Manchester United.
'They tell me he is a team player and he has proved that at Manchester.... I don't think he would have any problems in adapting to play with us.
'I'm absolutely certain that if I was in his (Ferguson's) position I would do exactly the same. I wouldn't like anyone to take a player like him from me even if I had won the league and the Champions League.
'He is the sort of player that no one wants to lose and for me the way in which the Manchester United manager is defending himself is perfect.'
When asked if the club's alternative plans involved Valencia's Spanish international striker David Villa, Schuster replied: 'I don't want to give any names.... All I can say is that they are attacking players.'
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"I do stepover, I wax my chest and i don't track back." Rooney the puppet on I am on Setanta quoting the Ronaldo puppet!
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Hahaha Marca are now running quotes that Fabregas wants to sign for them next season...something which he has categorically denied...
Dear oh dear...
Comedy.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3878175,00.html
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Ronaldo sticks with United
Portuguese ace to stay at Old Trafford
By Chris Burton Last updated: 6th August 2008
Ronaldo: Staying put
I will remain with Manchester United for at least another year.
Ronaldo
Quotes of the week
Cristiano Ronaldo has admitted that he will remain at Manchester United for another season.
In the longest running transfer saga of the summer, the Red Devils winger had fluctuated between his desire to remain at Old Trafford and fulfilling his dream of playing for Real Madird.
United had always insisted that the Portugal international was not for sale, but Real have a history of getting what they want.
However, the 23-year-old appears to have brought an end to the endless speculation surrounding his future by stating his intentions to remain in England for the 2008/09 campaign.
"I will remain with Manchester United for at least another year," Ronaldo told Portuguese newspaper Publico.
Dedication
He goes on to praise United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, who flew to Portugal in the aftermath of Euro 2008 to hold clear-the-air discussions with his enigmatic playmaker.
"Sir Alex Ferguson heard my arguments, I heard his and, in fact, it was settled that the best for both parties would be for me to stay," he added.
"Therefore, I can confirm that, next season, I will play for Manchester United.
"Before rumours emerge saying that I will play against my will, I want to make this clear - whoever says or writes that is lying.
"I will play for Manchester with all my heart and soul. I will fight and honour that shirt with the same commitment and dedication as always."
Controversy
Ronaldo also accepted full responsibility for failing to stop the constant rumours from spiralling out of control.
"I was responsible for all this controversy," he said.
"I was the one who publicly expressed my desire to go to Real Madrid. I ended up being, even involuntarily, responsible for the poor relationship between the two clubs."
Desire
While United will be pleased to here their prized asset committing himself to the club, Ronaldo went on to admit that he maintains his dream of playing for Real at some stage in the future.
He explained: "I knew Real Madrid were interested in signing me and that they had allegedly made a very high offer to Manchester United.
"My desire was, for some time, that Manchester had accepted my transfer to Madrid.
"Saying otherwise would be to trick people and my own consciousness."
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STEUPS.
Fergie rel dissapoint me here.
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STEUPS.
Fergie rel dissapoint me here.
Fergie aint stupid. He retiring in 2 years and keeping Ronaldo for one more year will give him time to line up the player or players he will buy with Real's money. I think he sayin he will decide if and when Ronaldo leaving and in the meantime he still have to do or say what it takes to make sure Ronaldo perform for United while they both around. If and when Ronaldo leave Lord Wrigley will share all of his feelings about how he went about his biz. At least he get the 'coward' to take responsibility for keeping this shite going. He better score 50 goals next season!
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STEUPS.
Fergie rel dissapoint me here.
Fergie aint stupid. He retiring in 2 years and keeping Ronaldo for one more year will give him time to line up the player or players he will buy with Real's money. I think he sayin he will decide if and when Ronaldo leaving and in the meantime he still have to do or say what it takes to make sure Ronaldo perform for United while they both around. If and when Ronaldo leave Lord Wrigley will share all of his feelings about how he went about his biz. At least he get the 'coward' to take responsibility for keeping this shite going. He better score 50 goals next season!
And wha if he doesnt? De man coming off a ankle injury.....all kinda madness...i expecting a dip in form. Plus...how would you know if he really playing his heart out. As i said before...fergie move bad. When he start playing coy and dropping hints...if i was fergie...i wasnt saying nuttin. For him to move....Real hadda come to me before anything happen....and my starting request is 100 Million. Simple. If he want to g bad enough....he go beg dem to come up with the money.....they will have to counter offer etc...buh......anywhere from 75 Million up possible. De man petulant, he win everything it have to win in england...better he go. Especially for he ingratitude. I woulda sell him..and tell him to give Ruud my regards.
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so wait..
the greasy face, lady-like, one trick pony staying then..
Allyuh eh vex?
I thought allyuh didnt want him again.
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Steupsssssss
i dont trust this facka again..........never will.
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STEUPS.
Fergie rel dissapoint me here.
Fergie aint stupid. He retiring in 2 years and keeping Ronaldo for one more year will give him time to line up the player or players he will buy with Real's money. I think he sayin he will decide if and when Ronaldo leaving and in the meantime he still have to do or say what it takes to make sure Ronaldo perform for United while they both around. If and when Ronaldo leave Lord Wrigley will share all of his feelings about how he went about his biz. At least he get the 'coward' to take responsibility for keeping this shite going. He better score 50 goals next season!
And wha if he doesnt? De man coming off a ankle injury.....all kinda madness...i expecting a dip in form. Plus...how would you know if he really playing his heart out. As i said before...fergie move bad. When he start playing coy and dropping hints...if i was fergie...i wasnt saying nuttin. For him to move....Real hadda come to me before anything happen....and my starting request is 100 Million. Simple. If he want to g bad enough....he go beg dem to come up with the money.....they will have to counter offer etc...buh......anywhere from 75 Million up possible. De man petulant, he win everything it have to win in england...better he go. Especially for he ingratitude. I woulda sell him..and tell him to give Ruud my regards.
I know he is not scoring no 50 goals I only state that because he need to better last season's scores to be just worthy of even pulling on a pair of socks with United's crest on it far less wear the shirt again. I want him gone but not under his terms. Ah don't care how young he is he still know what he was doing when he did what he did all off season. He will be gone soon and we now have the Brazilians to take in! We done with the Portugeeezer!
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STEUPS.
Fergie rel dissapoint me here.
Fergie aint stupid. He retiring in 2 years and keeping Ronaldo for one more year will give him time to line up the player or players he will buy with Real's money. I think he sayin he will decide if and when Ronaldo leaving and in the meantime he still have to do or say what it takes to make sure Ronaldo perform for United while they both around. If and when Ronaldo leave Lord Wrigley will share all of his feelings about how he went about his biz. At least he get the 'coward' to take responsibility for keeping this shite going. He better score 50 goals next season!
And wha if he doesnt? De man coming off a ankle injury.....all kinda madness...i expecting a dip in form. Plus...how would you know if he really playing his heart out. As i said before...fergie move bad. When he start playing coy and dropping hints...if i was fergie...i wasnt saying nuttin. For him to move....Real hadda come to me before anything happen....and my starting request is 100 Million. Simple. If he want to g bad enough....he go beg dem to come up with the money.....they will have to counter offer etc...buh......anywhere from 75 Million up possible. De man petulant, he win everything it have to win in england...better he go. Especially for he ingratitude. I woulda sell him..and tell him to give Ruud my regards.
I know he is not scoring no 50 goals I only state that because he need to better last season's scores to be just worthy of even pulling on a pair of socks with United's crest on it far less wear the shirt again. I want him gone but not under his terms. Ah don't care how young he is he still know what he was doing when he did what he did all off season. He will be gone soon and we now have the Brazilians to take in! We done with the Portugeeezer!
easy.....we still got Nani and i want Carlos to come back
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so wait..
the greasy face, lady-like, one trick pony staying then..
Allyuh eh vex?
I thought allyuh didnt want him again.
:devil:
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so wait..
the greasy face, lady-like, one trick pony staying then..
Allyuh eh vex?
I thought allyuh didnt want him again.
Your rantings are akin to watching a drunkard trying to stamp on an angry wasp.
Sounds like you're more vex than the rest of us now that the gloating over Ronaldo leaving has left you with egg on your face.
He's staying. I'm neither happy or sad about it, just indifferent because the mind numbing coverage this transfer saga was given has just left me desensitized. Its just Real Madrids complete lack of respect for the rules and trying to make a mockery of United that angered me, something that Ronaldo himself encouraged (to an extent).
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A bunch of freaking children. "He is the best"......"What?.. he leaving our almighty team?"......."Ungrateful, no good, prostiitute loving queer"........"He staying? What a boy. 60 goals I say. Glory, Glory........pints on me"
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so wait..
the greasy face, lady-like, one trick pony staying then..
Allyuh eh vex?
I thought allyuh didnt want him again.
Your rantings are akin to watching a drunkard trying to stamp on an angry wasp.
Sounds like you're more vex than the rest of us now that the gloating over Ronaldo leaving has left you with egg on your face.
He's staying. I'm neither happy or sad about it, just indifferent because the mind numbing coverage this transfer saga was given has just left me desensitized. Its just Real Madrids complete lack of respect for the rules and trying to make a mockery of United that angered me, something that Ronaldo himself encouraged (to an extent).
lol..
lighten up fella..
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A bunch of freaking children. "He is the best"......"What?.. he leaving our almighty team?"......."Ungrateful, no good, prostiitute loving queer"........"He staying? What a boy. 60 goals I say. Glory, Glory........pints on me"
good one
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:rotfl:
i feel allyuh haters are really closet Man Utd supporters and afraid to admit it. Seems like allyuh does dream of the champs in allyuh sleep...... :rotfl:
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so wait..
the greasy face, lady-like, one trick pony staying then..
Allyuh eh vex?
I thought allyuh didnt want him again.
Your rantings are akin to watching a drunkard trying to stamp on an angry wasp.
Sounds like you're more vex than the rest of us now that the gloating over Ronaldo leaving has left you with egg on your face.
He's staying. I'm neither happy or sad about it, just indifferent because the mind numbing coverage this transfer saga was given has just left me desensitized. Its just Real Madrids complete lack of respect for the rules and trying to make a mockery of United that angered me, something that Ronaldo himself encouraged (to an extent).
V1 its all good, enjoy the season! Plus all of dem still going about their lives, don't sweat it. Enjoy watching Terry cry like a baby again, Rafa continue to get exposed and Arsene9 excuses.
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This and the Arsenal thread like ah bad gyal yuh bring home and brush but now yuh cyah get rid of.
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more like the police academy sequels
or chucky 4 dat matter
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Allyuh Man U fans like de wife dat will overlook de horn once de husband give dem plenty shoppin money. :)
Ronaldo woulda love to move, but at least allyuh get a reminder of where Man U is in de big club hierarchy.
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more so, if they take away the 42 goals and all his assists would Man U have won the EPL and CL.
Doubtful?!?!?
dem better give him all the money he ask for and all the hoes he could handle in the upcoming future if they know what good for them
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Its just Real Madrids complete lack of respect for the rules and trying to make a mockery of United that angered me, something that Ronaldo himself encouraged (to an extent).
You still preaching that BS. Madrid didn't do anything that other clubs, including United, do. Yuh being real disingenuous when yuh say that was your beef.
Time to stop beating that old drum about big, bad, disrespectful Madrid.
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The Cristiano Ronaldo interview in full
By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 5:24 PM on 07th August 2008
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Here is the full interview with Cristiano Ronaldo by Portuguese newspaper Publico
Sir Alex Ferguson said this week that it was "the end of the matter" and that Cristiano Ronaldo will be playing at Manchester United next season. Is this true?
Yes. My coach was kind enough to come and see me in Lisbon a few days ago, which I think is common knowledge. It was a very honest conversation between two people that respect one other and that I'm sure share a mutual affection and friendship. What we said to each other will remain private. Sir Alex listened to me, I listened to him and we established that the best for both sides would be for me to continue at Old Trafford. So, I can confirm that I'll be playing for Manchester United next season. And before there are any rumours and speculation about me staying against my will, I want to make one thing clear: whoever says or writes anything to that effect is lying. I'll be playing at Manchester United with my heart and soul. I will fight and honour the shirt with the same desire and dedication as I always have.
And how do you think the people at Real Madrid will feel hearing you say that you're staying at Manchester United?
I want to say that I was the one that was responsible for all this controversy. It wasn't their fault because it was me that said publicly that I wanted to move to Real Madrid. It was also me, although wholly unintentionally, that caused the friction between the two clubs.
Staying: Cristiano Ronaldo will play with his 'heart and soul' for United now.
Your statements after the Champions League final and during and after the European Championship demonstrated your enormous desire to leave Manchester United and move to Real Madrid. What did you actually want?
I knew that Real Madrid were interested in signing me and that they had, allegedly, made a very substantial offer to Manchester United. For a while, I wanted Manchester to accept the offer and for me to move to Madrid. If I denied it I would be deceiving everyone, including myself. Anyone who knows me knows that it would have to be something very important for me to admit such a thing. If there's one thing I've never been - nor do I ever want to be - it is ungrateful. Manchester United - from the Glazer family, the directors, namely David Gill, to the coaches, team-mates and backroom staff - is a club that will always be dear to my heart. Whatever happens in the future, that will never change. I'm very aware of what this club has done for me and I'll be eternally grateful, come what may. But it was because of this, because I knew this club was different and extraordinarily human, that I hoped that my wishes and my reasons would be understood.
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Ronaldo bows to Sir Alex and commits himself to United - for next season
And what were the reasons that made you want to leave?
After we'd won the Champions League, I felt that in five years I had helped win everything there was to win. We'd won the Premier League twice and I'd won a host of individual awards, including the best goalscorer in the Premier League, Champions League and in Europe. So I felt that maybe I needed a new challenge. I never hid the fact that I wanted to play in Spain, at Real Madrid in particular, and I thought this could be the right moment. Manchester United and Real are probably the two biggest clubs in the world and it would never be an easy decision to make. Apart from the challenge, everyone realises that Spanish and Portuguese culture and lifestyle are more similar. Those were the reasons that made me consider the change.
Nothing else? The attraction of an even more generous wage that Real Madrid are said to be willing to pay, for example?
I'm aware that, whatever the circumstances, there will always be speculation about me. I knew that there would always be someone who'd say that my main concern was making more money. Others would insist that my vanity couldn't resist being linked to the biggest transfer fee of all time at the age of 23. Of course I am proud to see my work recognised, but none of this had any major effect on what I wanted. In fact, if it was just a question of money, I would never leave Manchester United. Apart from the reasons I've just given, I also have to recognise that my family would welcome the change. The chance of being an hour's flight from my mother and the rest of my family was very attractive, even more so playing for a club like Real Madrid. I know I have to deal with these circumstances, even though it's difficult sometimes, but it's harder to ask the same of the people I love the most. The best proof of what I've just said is the fact that I've just made a major investment in a house in Manchester, even though I didn't have to. I did it not just for my own comfort but also for those closest to me. The people at Manchester United, particularly the manager, understood my reasons. But we all eventually concluded that I should continue to wear that No7 United shirt. It's no sacrifice for me, it's a great honour. I have important things to win in England. I will give everything I have to Manchester United. I want to defend the European title and help United become world champion, not forgetting the Premier League and other competitions.
Are you afraid of the reception you'll get from the Manchester United fans?
No, to be honest. It's possible but I hope it doesn't happen. I know I'm a good professional, I know that no one's harder on me than myself and that's never going to change, under any circumstances. The high point of my career was winning the Champions League. No one will ever erase that from my memory, in the same way that no one will ever erase the fact that I did it in a Manchester United shirt.
What I said publicly, which was maybe a little naive, I take total responsibility for. People have to understand one thing: at the age of 18 I arrived at a dream club like Manchester United. It was a dream come true. But, even at that moment, I was thinking about playing in England for some years and then going to play in Spain. Even at that time I was thinking that way, and I always gave 100% everything. Why lie? I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say the opposite of what I think, like some others do. I said exactly what I thought: I have a dream of playing at Real and I thought it was time to move on. People can't be upset about me fulfilling a childhood dream.
But would it be fair for Manchester United to lose you while you are still under contract?
I'm very aware of what this club has done for me. I'll be forever grateful. Manchester United and its fans can be sure that I'll never forget them, no matter what happens. They're special and they'll always have a place here [puts hand on heart]. In fact, I confess that one of the reasons I had the courage to say what I did was the fact that Manchester United would be fairly compensated. The figure mentioned, which would be a world record, would serve as some compensation for the debt of gratitude that I owe the club, as least in material terms. I'm going to say something here that I've never told anybody: if we hadn't been European champions I probably wouldn't have even thought about going to Madrid. And there is something else that should be mentioned: I never wanted to leave against United's will. When they turned down the offer, the people at United made it very clear how much they wanted me. I didn't fully understand it at the time, but now I can really appreciate it.
But you agreed with Sepp Blatter when the president of Fifa said that long-term contracts between players and clubs were a form of "modern slavery"?
That makes no sense, nor do I believe that's what he meant, as he himself has already stated. My comment was about something else. I was saying that players should be where they feel happy. Nothing more.
Sir Alex Ferguson was always intransigent and denied any possibility of a transfer...
Believe me, it makes me proud to know how much he thinks of me. And he knows I feel exactly the same way about him. He has been one of the most important people in my playing career. Not only because of what I've learnt and continue to learn from him in sporting terms but also in human ones as well. I love the passion he has for football. If it were humanly possible I would like to have him always by my side. Of course it's not possible but it shows how much affection, admiration and respect I have for him. He has always been like a second father to me at Manchester United. I'll never forget that it was him that explained the significance of the No7 United shirt, which will always be my shirt. When I was at Sporting I had a number of offers, some of them very lucrative. One of them offered eight million Euros just as a signing on fee and meant that I would play for Sporting for one more year and then leave as a free agent. But money isn't everything. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Valencia and practically all the big clubs were also interested. At the time, Jorge Mendes explained that Manchester United also wanted me and that Sir Alex Ferguson had told him that he would be very careful with my playing career. So I would play at least 50% of the games in the first season, which is what happened. This shows that I also chose Manchester United and that money wasn't the deciding factor. Alongside my agent [Mendes], Sir Alex Ferguson has been the most important person I've ever known in my career. Because of this, because of the special relationship that exists between us, I know that he'll understand that there are times when a father has to worry only about what's best for his child.
The Spanish press continues to say that your future is at Real Madrid
There's no point in making predictions. It's not worth speculating because nothing is set in stone and things change all the time in football. Today there are opportunities that no one knows if they will come round again in the future. There are only two certainties: I'll be playing at Manchester United, a club I'm proud to represent; Real Madrid will continue to be a great club without me and I will continue to admire the Spanish club, as I have done since I was a boy. I'm saying what I think and I hope that all the speculation will stop. The press has written some terrible things about me and about this whole thing. They've invented a thousand and one things and that's one of the reasons why I decided to talk about this now. And people can be sure of one thing: everything I've said comes from the bottom of my heart and is the only truth.
Which means you don't exclude the possibility the dream of playing for Madrid?
I'm 100% professional and I've always given my heart and soul to this club. I even played a major part of the season injured, which was verified by my operation. I played in excruciating pain while taking anti-inflammatory medication every day. And I'd do it again if necessary. This club deserves it because the United staff and the fans are fantastic, not forgetting the affection and respect I have for Sir Alex Ferguson. If one day I leave the club, I want to do it knowing that I did everything I could to help the club win as much as possible. If that happens, I'll leave with the feeling of having done my duty to the maximum.
Interview by Bruno Prata, Publico
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Chelsea make bid for Madrid midfielder Robinho
By Soccernet
Chelsea are closing in on Real Madrid's want-away winger Robinho after reportedly making a bid for the Brazilian international.
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Sky Sports News claims that the Blues have put up £19.7million for the midfielder, who was blocked from taking part in his country's Olympic campaign.
Madrid signed Hamburg midfielder Rafael van der Vaart this week after a knee injury ruled out Dutchman Wesley Sneijder and the club may be tempted to offload Robinho, despite failing to lure Cristiano Ronaldo away from Manchester United.
A statement on the Blues' website read: 'Further to media reports, Chelsea Football Club can confirm we have made an offer to Real Madrid today for the transfer of Robinho.'
New addition Deco is keen to link up with the Brazilian, claiming: 'Robinho is a spectacular player. He's got incredible skill, he has magic and is capable of anything on a football pitch.
'His quality is amazing. It would be great if he joined us and he'd be made very welcome here.'
Robinho is also keen on a move, having been quoted as saying: 'It would be a dream for me to work with Luiz Felipe Scolari, who is one of the best coaches in the world.
'I have always spoken highly of him and he has always spoken very highly of me, since well before he was at Chelsea.
'In 2003, when I was unknown in Europe, he called me to play in a charity match. It was brief but it was enough for me to see his style and character.'
And Robinho's agent, Wagner Ribeiro, was reported as saying in Spain: 'Madrid have failed to value him as he deserves and I do not like the fact that they tried to include him in the Ronaldo deal. Money is not the problem for us now.
What matters for Robinho is to leave the club and play for Scolari at Chelsea.'
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Arshavin desperate for resolution to Spurs saga
Updated: August 8, 2008, 9:23 AM UK
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Zenit St Petersburg forward Andrei Arshavin has revealed his frustration at the delay over his proposed move to Tottenham - and hopes his 'whining' will convince bosses to let him leave.
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The UEFA Cup holders have rejected formal bids from Barcelona and Tottenham for Arshavin, whose inspirational performances led Russia to the Euro 2008 semi-finals.
Zenit have raised Arshavin's price tag to a reported 27 million euros, with the 27-year-old now fearing he has been priced out of the market.
'This price tag has frightened everybody off,' Arshavin told Sport Express. 'Only Tottenham have dared continue negotiations. But as it stands nothing has developed.
'My desire to leave is still as strong, but there is nothing more to do now other than hope for a miracle. I understand perfectly well that if I don't move on now, I probably never will.
'I'm just hoping that one fine morning the bosses at Gazprom will wake up in a good mood and say: 'We've had enough of Arshavin's whining - let's let him go'.'
With the prospect of his dream move to Barcelona over for now after the Catalans signed Alexander Hleb, Arshavin has turned his attention to the English Premier League and reiterated his desire to work with Spurs coach Juande Ramos.
'When Tottenham made their offer I was sceptical at first,' Arshavin continued. 'But after Ramos called me personally and told me that that they were selling Robbie Keane and that he wanted me in his side, the situation changed.
'When a coach shows an interest in you, especially such a renowned and strong coach, then that is already half of the success of any move. I also like the way Tottenham play, so I agreed in principle to join.
'A short while later a representative from Spurs arrived to discuss my personal terms and contract. The discussion didn't take long and we agreed on everything quickly. Only then did my asking price go up.
'Tottenham have a decent squad with (Luka) Modric, (Dimitar) Berbatov and other players, and the club is fully capable of fighting for a place in the Champions League.
'The main thing is to try my strengths in a league like the English Premier League and play against the likes of Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal on a regular basis rather than once every five years.'
Despite the breakdown in negotiations, Zenit coach Dick Advocaat believes the club have not heard the last from Tottenham and is confident the deal can be resurrected.
The Dutchman told Rossiskaya Gazeta: 'I am sure Tottenham will be back to make another, more suitable offer for Arshavin's transfer. There is no set time period or deadline for this. Zenit are doing everything in the correct way.
'If Tottenham can sell Robbie Keane to Liverpool for 25 million euros then in my opinion they should pay good money for Arshavin.'
Arshavin is currently preparing to fly to Kazan for Zenit's crucial Premier Liga match against league leaders Rubin tomorrow despite reports in the English press that the player is 'on strike'.
Arshavin, along with fellow Russian internationals Alexander Anyukov, Roman Shirokov and Konstantin Zyryanov, was rested in midweek for Zenit's cup defeat to Sibir Novosibirsk.
feeling sorry 4 him
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And they're also very angry at being turned down, so much so that they want to take Ronaldo to court...
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3959222,00.html
Real Madrid are reportedly set to demand £17m in compensation from Cristiano Ronaldo after the Portuguese forward refused to demand a transfer from Manchester United.
Ronaldo's announcement last week that he would be remaining at Old Trafford heaped embarrassment on the Spanish giants and their president Ramon Calderon following their summer-long pursuit of the forward.
According to the News of the World, Madrid are adamant that 'they agreed personal terms with the Manchester United star at the start of the summer and insisted on the compensation clause if the transfer was not completed.
'Spanish media sources, who have become Madrid's unofficial mouthpiece during the Ronaldo negotiations, are reporting that Real president Ramon Calderon is determined to press ahead with the claim.
'Calderon might be prepared to waive compensation if he gets a guaranteed assurance from Ronaldo that he will join them next summer.'
However, that claim is contradicted by the Sunday Express which says that, such is Madrid's anger at being rebuffed, Ronaldo may never be allowed to fulfil his boyhood dream of moving to the Bernabeu.
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And they will go unpunished by UEFA and FIFA...
How can you sue a player for turning you down?
How can you agree personal terms with a player if his club has not given the two parties permission to speak to each other regarding a possible transfer?
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And they're also very angry at being turned down, so much so that they want to take Ronaldo to court...
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3959222,00.html
Real Madrid are reportedly set to demand £17m in compensation from Cristiano Ronaldo after the Portuguese forward refused to demand a transfer from Manchester United.
Ronaldo's announcement last week that he would be remaining at Old Trafford heaped embarrassment on the Spanish giants and their president Ramon Calderon following their summer-long pursuit of the forward.
According to the News of the World, Madrid are adamant that 'they agreed personal terms with the Manchester United star at the start of the summer and insisted on the compensation clause if the transfer was not completed.
'Spanish media sources, who have become Madrid's unofficial mouthpiece during the Ronaldo negotiations, are reporting that Real president Ramon Calderon is determined to press ahead with the claim.
'Calderon might be prepared to waive compensation if he gets a guaranteed assurance from Ronaldo that he will join them next summer.'
However, that claim is contradicted by the Sunday Express which says that, such is Madrid's anger at being rebuffed, Ronaldo may never be allowed to fulfil his boyhood dream of moving to the Bernabeu.
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And they will go unpunished by UEFA and FIFA...
How can you sue a player for turning you down?
How can you agree personal terms with a player if his club has not given the two parties permission to speak to each other regarding a possible transfer?
:rotfl:
and you glean all this from a news of the world tabloid report? ::)
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"Real Madrid Admit To 'Tapping Up' Cristiano Ronaldo "
not only that, but I hope that they hit he some calpet also :devil: :devil:
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Oh i would kill for this to be true... Then maybe Ronaldo would realise what a c**t club those f**king Madrid rentboys really are
Unfortunately seems like another bullshit Ronaldo story....
f**k Madrid,Calderon,Shuster and Blatter...
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And they're also very angry at being turned down, so much so that they want to take Ronaldo to court...
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3959222,00.html
Real Madrid are reportedly set to demand £17m in compensation from Cristiano Ronaldo after the Portuguese forward refused to demand a transfer from Manchester United.
Ronaldo's announcement last week that he would be remaining at Old Trafford heaped embarrassment on the Spanish giants and their president Ramon Calderon following their summer-long pursuit of the forward.
According to the News of the World, Madrid are adamant that 'they agreed personal terms with the Manchester United star at the start of the summer and insisted on the compensation clause if the transfer was not completed.
'Spanish media sources, who have become Madrid's unofficial mouthpiece during the Ronaldo negotiations, are reporting that Real president Ramon Calderon is determined to press ahead with the claim.
'Calderon might be prepared to waive compensation if he gets a guaranteed assurance from Ronaldo that he will join them next summer.'
However, that claim is contradicted by the Sunday Express which says that, such is Madrid's anger at being rebuffed, Ronaldo may never be allowed to fulfil his boyhood dream of moving to the Bernabeu.
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And they will go unpunished by UEFA and FIFA...
How can you sue a player for turning you down?
How can you agree personal terms with a player if his club has not given the two parties permission to speak to each other regarding a possible transfer?
:rotfl:
and you glean all this from a news of the world tabloid report? ::)
Like Marca and AS?
Whats good for the goose...
All of a sudden tabloid reporting is bad, yet theres not a peep from you and your ilk when the Marca and AS reports were coming out...a lot of you were defending those very articles.
Tsk Tsk...
Like all ABUs, you only like 'the facts' when they support you in your myopic crusade against anything to do with Manchester united.
You rantings remind me of a drunkard trying to stamp on an angry wasp.
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Oh i would kill for this to be true... Then maybe Ronaldo would realise what a c**t club those f**king Madrid rentboys really are
Unfortunately seems like another bullshit Ronaldo story....
f**k Madrid,Calderon,Shuster and Blatter...
Why yuh doh say F**k Ronaldo for saying that he wanted to go to Madrid?
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Oh i would kill for this to be true... Then maybe Ronaldo would realise what a c**t club those f**king Madrid rentboys really are
Unfortunately seems like another bullshit Ronaldo story....
f**k Madrid,Calderon,Shuster and Blatter...
Why yuh doh say F**k Ronaldo for saying that he wanted to go to Madrid?
Toppa ya lorse de ball wid dat 6 :devil:
where ya was...enjoying de summer?
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Oh i would kill for this to be true... Then maybe Ronaldo would realise what a c**t club those f**king Madrid rentboys really are
Unfortunately seems like another bullshit Ronaldo story....
f**k Madrid,Calderon,Shuster and Blatter...
Why yuh doh say F**k Ronaldo for saying that he wanted to go to Madrid?
I'll say f**k his advisors and his agent...and you
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Oh i would kill for this to be true... Then maybe Ronaldo would realise what a c**t club those f**king Madrid rentboys really are
Unfortunately seems like another bullshit Ronaldo story....
f**k Madrid,Calderon,Shuster and Blatter...
Why yuh doh say F**k Ronaldo for saying that he wanted to go to Madrid?
I'll say f**k his advisors and his agent...and you
So u saying Ronaldo himself didn't want to go to Madrid?
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All of a sudden tabloid reporting is bad, yet theres not a peep from you and your ilk when the Marca and AS reports were coming out...a lot of you were defending those very articles.
Tsk Tsk...
Like all ABUs, you only like 'the facts' when they support you in your myopic crusade against anything to do with Manchester united.
You rantings remind me of a drunkard trying to stamp on an angry wasp.
Alex Ferguson can do no wrong in his eyes.
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When dis go b a non issue is done a non issue in my book
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Robinho 'wants Chelsea move', Real opposed
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Buzz Up PrintMADRID (AFP) - Brazil international Robinho is determined to join English Premiership side Chelsea but Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon does not want to let him go, Spanish media reported Thursday.
The 24-year-old, accompanied by his agent Wagner Ribeiro, met with Calderon on Wednesday to express his desire to join Brazilian coach Luiz Felipe Scolari at Chelsea, sports dailies AS and Marca reported.
Robinho cited a lack of recognition for his talents on the part of the Spanish champions and the yearly salary which the English club are offering as his reasons for wanting to leave Real, the newspapers said.
Chelsea have offered Real Madrid 25 million euros (37 million dollars) for Robinho and are reportedly willing to pay the player a yearly salary of six million euros.
Calderon however told the player that he could not be sold for the amount being offered by Chelsea.
Robinho has said he feels Real is trying to price him out of a move after the club failed in its bid to lure Portuguese playmaker Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United.
"The money Madrid are asking for is exaggerated in today's market," British daily the Telegraph quoted him as saying on Thursday.
If Robinho does join Chelsea, Real Madrid could try to sign Dutch international Klas Jan Huntelaar from Ajax as a replacement, Marca reported.
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Berbatov seeks Spurs crisis talks
Dimitar Berbatov's agent is in London for crisis talks as the player attempts to force a move to Manchester United from Tottenham, BBC Sport understands.
Emil Danchev hopes to meet boss Juande Ramos and chairman Daniel Levy in a bid to thrash out the striker's future.
Berbatov was left out of Saturday's loss to Sunderland due to a "lack of focus", while his relationship with his team-mates appears to have broken down.
However, Spurs insist the 28-year-old will not leave for less than £30m.
The London club are threatening to let Berbatov "rot in the reserves", according to reports, rather than sell him for less than they believe he is worth.
That is despite the fact that the situation has clearly unsettled the club, with defeats to Middlesbrough and Sunderland erasing early-season optimism from fans, and reports of a training ground bust-up involving the Bulgarian adding to pressure on the club.
But Tottenham's position has been made more difficult by the fact that no offer is currently on the table for the striker, despite interest from United as well as two Spanish clubs.
At the same time, Spurs' complaint to the Premier League regarding United's conduct in their pursuit of Berbatov is on hold.
Premier League spokesman Dan Johnson confirmed to BBC Sport that the board met 10 days ago to discuss the matter, only to request more information from both clubs. That, as yet, has not been forthcoming.
In the meantime, Spurs are continuing with their efforts to strengthen the squad, with Spartak Moscow's Roman Pavlyuchenko believed to be closing on a move to White Hart Lane.
The Russia striker, who impressed during Euro 2008 with three goals, reportedly met Spurs officials last month and the club could now push through a deal by Friday.
A busy transfer window has seen Tottenham already pay out more than £43m for the likes of David Bentley, Luka Modric, Heurelho Gomes and Giovani dos Santos.
However, the sales of Robbie Keane, Pascal Chimbonda, Younes Kaboul and Paul Robinson, among others, mean they have recouped more than they have spent this summer and are therefore adamant that purchases are by no means dependent on Berbatov's exit.
So, while Andrei Arshavin's proposed switch from Zenit St Petersburg looks highly unlikely, Spurs look certain bring in new faces before the transfer window shuts on Monday.
Ajax striker Klass Jan Huntelaar, Radamel Falcao of River Plate and Manchester City defender Vedrun Corluka are also thought to be on their list of targets.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7582049.stm
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so manu car fork out 30 million steupssssssss cheap skates
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Man City re-sign Wright-Phillips
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7584964.stm
Wright-Phillips found opportunities limited at Stamford Bridge
Manchester City have completed the signing of their former winger Shaun Wright-Phillips from Chelsea.
England's Wright-Phillips, 26, has signed a four-year contract at the City of Manchester Stadium having rejoined for an undisclosed fee.
He told the club's website: "Obviously I'm delighted to come back to City and I can't wait to get started again."
Manager Mark Hughes added: "I've always admired Shaun and he's been a target of mine since I came to the club."
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Real Madrid forward Robinho should complete his €36m (£28.7m) transfer to Chelsea in time to make his debut in the home derby with Tottenham Hotspur, according to his agent Wagner Ribeiro.
Robinho
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The Brazilian international could bring his skills to the Premier League.
Ribeiro said on Wednesday night that he expects his client to be a Chelsea player 'by either tomorrow or Friday,' adding in the The Daily Telegraph, 'he should be available to [Luiz Felipe] Scolari for this weekend'.
Robinho, along with Deco, who has already made the switch from Spain to Stamford Bridge, were selected as Scolari's main transfer targets when he became manager of the Blues in the summer.
Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon shares Scolari's desire to lure Robinho to London and believes the Brazilian international can take the club to the 'next level'.
'He's the right age and he comes from Madrid so he understands what a big club is all about,' Kenyon said.
'What we're doing is supporting Scolari. He wants to change and move the style a bit [and] is confident about the player's ability and mentality and that he will fit in and make an impact.'
Chelsea had two bids for the 24-year-old rejected by Madrid earlier in the transfer window but the La Liga club's desire to use Robinho as a make-weight during their pursuit of Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo has unsettled the player and he now wants to quit the Santiago Bernabéu.
He is expected to receive a salary of £70,000 a week at Chelsea, double his income at Madrid.
Robinho is expected to wear the No7 shirt vacated by Andriy Shevchenko, who has rejoined Milan two years after Chelsea signed him for £30m.
Chelsea are so confident of concluding the deal with Real Madrid that fans can already buy Robinho shirts at the club's online megastore
Meanwhile, there seems little prospect of another Brazilian, Kaka, leaving AC Milan to join the Blues, not least because the playmaker is happy at the San Siro.
Chelsea were linked with a world-record £80million bid for Kaka, but he told Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport: 'Me going to Chelsea? I'm staying as a Rossoneri player.
'I should help Milan to win the trophies we're up for this season.'
He added: 'I've always said I'm happy at Milan and as long as my aims remain the same as Milan's I'll stay here. Until now it's always been that way.
'My goal is to win, Milan's is too. As long as we are like that, I'll remain at Milan.'
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if this is true manu in serious trouble!! :beermug:
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if this is true manu in serious trouble!! :beermug:
even if this is not true manu in serious trouble!! :beermug:
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is Spurs dey playing
.. Zenith in trouble
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I really hope Robinho don't go to Chelsea. I think that would be a stupid move on his part. If he has to go somewhere it should be Italy not England.
Plus if he leaves Madrid we might as well hand over the trophy to Barcelona from now.
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Plus if he leaves Madrid we might as well hand over the trophy to Barcelona from now.
You see me complaining :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Doh worry westcoast laff wid allyuh starboy lineup..allyuh eh winning nutten..we tried de same thing wid ronaldo, zidane etc. Is when all de stars leave we cut allyuh ass and take de trophy.
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if this is true manu in serious trouble!! :beermug:
even if this is not true manu in serious trouble!! :beermug:
stueps
Plus if he leaves Madrid we might as well hand over the trophy to Barcelona from now.
You see me complaining :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Men is real kix with all this "allyuh" and "we" talk. ;D
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if this is true he go get rel blade in he tail. this eh his type of football. he should stay at madrid.
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if this is true he go get rel blade in he tail. this eh his type of football. he should stay at madrid.
Exactly. Or he could go to AC Milan. If he must go to England then Arsenal is the team for him.
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Now read at d bottom of the screen on Sky that Rivaldo leave Greece and gone some side in....wait for it................wait...........wait........................................
UZBEKISTAN!!! :rotfl: wtmc does really go on with these fellaz yo....I eh even google d story cuz ah know Sky eh postin tha kinda wiggery unless it true. Somebody show me d weedman who sellin tha kinda high grades please.
All Barca and Brazil fans bow your heads lets have a moment of silence....11:59 to 12 lets not post on d site tonight...lol....bless
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Now read at d bottom of the screen on Sky that Rivaldo leave Greece and gone some side in....wait for it................wait...........wait........................................
UZBEKISTAN!!! :rotfl: wtmc does really go on with these fellaz yo....I eh even google d story cuz ah know Sky eh postin tha kinda wiggery unless it true. Somebody show me d weedman who sellin tha kinda high grades please.
All Barca and Brazil fans bow your heads lets have a moment of silence....11:59 to 12 lets not post on d site tonight...lol....bless
yuh jokey is rel money he makin in da league for his age
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Now read at d bottom of the screen on Sky that Rivaldo leave Greece and gone some side in....wait for it................wait...........wait........................................
UZBEKISTAN!!! :rotfl: wtmc does really go on with these fellaz yo....I eh even google d story cuz ah know Sky eh postin tha kinda wiggery unless it true. Somebody show me d weedman who sellin tha kinda high grades please.
All Barca and Brazil fans bow your heads lets have a moment of silence....11:59 to 12 lets not post on d site tonight...lol....bless
It is estimated that in Uzbekistan he will be getting a, wait for it....... wait....... wait....... wait.........................
2 year offer for 10 million euros!!
For that kind of paper, men would play in de Mongolian third division.
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the glass knee is movin on........comngrats on a job well done and when fit he is world
Everton have agreed to sign Louis Saha, subject to the Manchester United striker passing a medical.
United have accepted an undisclosed fee for the injury-prone striker, who moved to Old Trafford from Fulham in 2004.
Saha has agreed a two-year contract at Goodison Park, with the option of a further 12 months.
He must now pass a medical to become David Moyes' third signing of the summer following the arrivals of Lars Jacobsen and Segundo Castillo.
The France international has scored 42 goals in 124 appearances for United since his £12.8million switch from Fulham.
However, his time with the Red Devils has been beset by injury problems and he has not figured for the champions this season.
His last appearance for United came in March against Bolton and he started only six games in the Premier League last term.
Saha's imminent exit is likely to intensify United manager Sir Alex Ferguson's search to bring in a new striker before the transfer window closes.
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Everton smash record for Fellaini
Fellaini joined Standard Liege in 2006
Everton have signed Standard Liege midfielder Marouane Fellaini for a club record fee of £15m.
The 20-year-old, who has played 10 times for Belgium and represented his country at the Beijing Olympics, has signed a five-year deal.
Everton, who had already signed Louis Saha from Manchester United and Wigan's Carlo Nash, confirmed the fee may rise.
"We have one of Europe's most exciting prospects," acting chief executive Robert Elstone told the club website.
"This is fantastic news for everyone connected with the club. He will have a huge part to play at Everton over the next five years.
"I spoke with chairman Bill Kenwright and manager David Moyes shortly after concluding the deal and they are delighted we have managed to secure his services.
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It shows that the money is there, just a shame we had to wait until the last minute of the last day to see the evidence
Bluenoze
"It came late on, like a lot of the big deals in the Premier League, but he's with us and we look forward to welcoming him to Goodison."
The deal ends a frustrating summer transfer window for Everton, which had led to Moyes coming under pressure following his failure to attract players to Goodison Park.
Fellaini joined Liege - who are Everton's forthcoming opponents in the first round of the Uefa Cup - in 2006 and made 84 appearances for the Belgian champions, scoring 11 times.
During the Beijing Games, Fellaini was sent off in the opening game against Brazil following two yellow cards.
Earlier, Everton completed the signing of striker Saha and goalkeeper Nash, although they missed out on Inter Milan winger Victor Obinna after a work permit application was turned down.
Now lets see if we could move from 5th to 4th