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So Kai Selvon ran a 50.6 anchor for Auburn in the women's 4x400m relay to stretch Jessica Beard to her 49.14 anchor split - impressive for a 19 year old T&T female athlete

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Alexander_claims_another_NCAA_bronze-123700144.html

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Happens all the time in NCAA sport:
Take a 19/20 year old freshman, add a red shirt season and voila you get seniors as old as 24 and 25 years old.
Others who perform religious missions (mormons, etc) then go to college and play football get out even later.

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I am saying it now. Bledman cutting everybody tail at nationals. Like i said in a previous thread placing is everything, times are circumstantial. he lost by only 3 feet to the first and second ranked 100m sprinters i nthe world this year and beat Rodgers who has been very consistent this season. Bledos might go sub-9.90 before the year is out....

On another note FYAH BUN that false start rule!!!

Yeszir,, I surprise dem sprinters never protest dat.
ah still eh know who win th 100 beetween gay and the yardie
ah log on here to find out...NBC  cut out to show dey horse race

Mulling won:
http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/dlm/news/newsid=60316.html

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So this guy debuts in the event (lifetime) in 9.97 then wins the NCAA D1 100m title in 9.89, erasing Mr. Boldon's record. Not bad for a long jumper. Actually just amazing!!! ::)

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What about Track & Field / Re: Machel Cendenio- Unbelievable talent
« on: June 07, 2011, 08:47:03 AM »
Prodigies have the odds AGAINST them in this sport. For every Bolt, Felix and Richards-Ross, there are 100 who never even got close to making it.

Yeah but there is no harm in being overly supportive and optimistic when a burgeoning talent comes along - look how you and Bolt turned out.

As long as we manage expectations and where possible jump in when guidance is sought, chances are our love for track can actually end up making a positive difference in an athlete's development. After all we are Trinbagonians, we born optimistic.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Diamond League- Eugene(June 4th, 2011)
« on: June 06, 2011, 03:56:13 PM »
what allyuh want to the man to do? take steroids!!!!!

I think they either want him to train harder or change coaches!!

They think running 10.0, 9. week after week is easy, and have become accustomed to it in this day and age.
One thing I notice is that he is not as muscular as when he was at LSU. He may be stronger in his lifts but he may not be as healthy as before to withstand the high level workouts. Given that he is still training at LSU, and most probably still has access to the weight training facilities and the strength coach, the only difference I suspect is the scholarship meal plan vs. cooking for oneself as a pro athlete. Big difference, especially if he never cooked for himself before leaving T&T. I SUSPECT that the answer may simply lie in some good, balanced, nutritional home cooking, that supplements could never replace. It must be hard especially when he is on the road, if that base of "blue food" not there, unlike our Jamaican friends who train and live at home.

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STMB, You have time to respond to Trinity Cross, Lesve him let it be , Stupidity can not be cured,you may try to reason with him, But he will not understand it , very complex with him, So in turn he will lash out with out of timing statements . Dont matter what is the article , it seems his only obsession is with Darrel Brown , It is very weird when the first thought in your mind is DB. Stick to the article. Please

Point taken, ignorance deserves ignoring.

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what STMB stands for?   Should mean Stop Talking so Much about Brown

Tell me something, are you 13 years old?? Post like an adult and stop the foolishness.

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Burns ran 9.97 twice in 2008
in London on 25/07/2008 and the olympic semifinal

Thanks for informing the uninformed

hahahahaha dais de best yuh could do?  Burns better than Brown...dais all dat saying, jes as I have been saying..steups

when has Brown ever replicated that sub ten run?  He never has and never will

There you go again making everything about Brown, like yuh sweet on the man or what??
My comment was just to help highlight your general lack of knowledge about the sport chief

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What about Track & Field / Re: 2011 Results
« on: June 05, 2011, 03:17:49 PM »
I think that is a massive PB

Wow!!!

Someone was asking whether T&T could field a decent 4x4?
Well now you have Lalonde, Quow, Hewitt (all mid-45s), Solomon, Alleyne-Forte, Gordon, Cedenio, etc
Senior champs should be interesting in both the 100m and 400m

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What about Track & Field / Re: Diamond League- Eugene(June 4th, 2011)
« on: June 05, 2011, 03:12:19 PM »
Fair point fair point but i still believe that right now placing shouldn't be his priority- as it is more important at the world champs rather than at these meets. For now good placement is a confidence booster which i admit he does need but his focus should be on getting in the right shape and having the right form(also running more 200's) and dropping those times and improving from there. He knows that he can run 9.8x so he needs to get into that mindset of achieving it.

...but if he keeps placing 7th/8th, he may not get into A races with the quality competition he needs

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Burns ran 9.97 twice in 2008
in London on 25/07/2008 and the olympic semifinal

Thanks for informing the uninformed

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What about Track & Field / Re: Diamond League- Eugene(June 4th, 2011)
« on: June 04, 2011, 02:48:18 PM »
With all the talk about Caster Semenya looking like a man, she got beat out by 2 other "beauties" today:

1st runner up - Montsho from Botswana (she born so)

and the winner is - Carmelita Jeter from the USA....the woman face looking wider than in previous years and muscularity is way up - 10.70?? hmmm

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Bledman just ran 9.93!

Can you confirm?

Can you confirm? LOL
What you think this was, a nuclear missile launch??
But then again it was, almost - 9.93!!!!

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This man seems to have been forgotten as his day was sandwiched between those of Butch Reynolds and Michael Johnson, but man what a pleasure to watch him run a quarter, textbook form and beyond:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_cc5Ihkzmc - 1992 OLY 400m SEMI-FINAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIbDHQYWOs&feature=related - 1992 OLY 400m FINAL

Both races feature Ian Morris, setting T&T's record in the semis.
Now if only we could get Rene to run like that, the form correction alone will drop him into the high 43s on his 2009 conditioning.

That dude was the s***. He took that 400m like a 200m race. That was impressive. KJ has similar technique. What do you think?

Yes KJ attacks the race but a few differences:
1. KJ leans forward a bit too much in first half of the race, seemingly pressing for the most of the first 200
2. As a result he tends to slow a bit on the bend as he collects himself for the last 100
3. Then he runs a strong last 100 but it is more off of strength than on momentum off the curve

Those who have run 44-low and sub-44 tend to attack both bends instead of focusing on sprinting the straightaways. Wariner, Johnson, and even Angelo Taylor (when he ran 44.0x) accelerate going into the last curve, trusting their momentum, conditioning, and efficient form to bring them home. The trick to attacking that last curve is using the momentum from the first 100 to relax on the back straight yet maintain leg turnover without killing it, leaving space to change gears.

But the greatest fear/risk for all quarter milers is attacking the last bend and HOPING to have gas to come home without rigging, but doing so correctly gives you an advantage over the opposition mentally and distance-wise in that last 100. It is efficient form, relaxation off of momentum, and strength that brings you home.

Wariner looks like an efficient machine coming home, Reynolds grinded his way home, Johnson just had that killer strength in addition to his momentum. Quincy in my mind though was the smoothest of them all. Had he the strength of Johnson or Reynolds, he might be the WR holder today, but 4th best all-time ain't bad.

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This man seems to have been forgotten as his day was sandwiched between those of Butch Reynolds and Michael Johnson, but man what a pleasure to watch him run a quarter, textbook form and beyond:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_cc5Ihkzmc - 1992 OLY 400m SEMI-FINAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIbDHQYWOs&feature=related - 1992 OLY 400m FINAL

Both races feature Ian Morris, setting T&T's record in the semis.
Now if only we could get Rene to run like that, the form correction alone will drop him into the high 43s on his 2009 conditioning.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Machel Cendenio- Unbelievable talent
« on: May 31, 2011, 06:18:19 PM »
Actually that 44 point only came this year at age 18/19
At 15 he had the identical PR as Machel - 46.96, and Machel eh done for de year yet
However 45.24 at 17 is beastly
http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/biographies/country=GRN/athcode=234724/index.html

Cant believe the times this 15 yo kid running for 400M. All he needs now is a good coach and to remain focus and he will surely be a main contender in the seniors in a few years time.

Yeah. I say by next year he will be competing against the seniors. 46.96 at 15 years old...He is on pace to reach 45 by the age of 18. He will surely challenge KJ in the future.

KJ ran 44point at 17.

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What about Track & Field / Re: 2011 Results
« on: May 29, 2011, 07:29:22 AM »
Brown's time is indeed encouraging. And notice no one is proclaiming a 9.9, 9.8, 9.7 - reasonable and optimistic comments, so give the man his due. His times so far are the 3rd most impressive of all of T&T sprinters right now, hardly that of a "has been".

Even more impressive in my view is Machel Cedenio - 46.96, 2 weeks shy of his 16th birthday. Had he run this time at Carifta he would have broken Bolt's age group/championship record. All that with suspect form and race strategy. So with the right guidance this youth with obvious great conditioning, intestinal fortitude, and Trini bad mind (as we saw in the Carifta 200m and 4x400m) should be a treat to follow as his career progresses.


I expected something there abouts so by trials definitely 10.1's possibly 10.0s (because of the new track at hasely crawford stadium). Glad to see him making improvements with each race and nothing is being rushed. Wishing the best for him and the rest of the guys.

My girl Michelle back running 11.5's again! Great to see- she needs to get a hookup with DB's Florida coach Vern Gambetta(i think) so she can rid her self of those frequently occurring injuries and start running those quick times. If she wasn't injured so regularly Kelly's 11.17 NJR would have been disposed of! This girl is something else I just hope the technique can be ironed out and injuries can be dealt with and if so we may have our 3rd sub-11 woman( providing Semoy is the 2nd which i expect her to be in the near future).

event 25  Women 100 Meter Dash
============================================================================
    Name                    Year Team                    Finals  Wind Points
============================================================================
Finals                                                                     
  1 Ahye, Michelle-Lee           Concorde                 11.50   0.4       
  2 Durant, Kamaria              Simplex                  11.93   0.4       
  3 Springer, Sasha              Rebirth                  11.95   0.4       
  4 Stafford, Donelle            Concorde                 12.62   0.4       
  5 Mason, Shun-Shauna           Concorde                 12.70   0.4       


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What about Track & Field / Re: darrel brown
« on: May 25, 2011, 11:46:20 AM »
AGAIN, misinformed about No ONE performing anywhere near those times:
Here's Burn's profile (9.97 twice in 2008)
http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/biographies/letter=b/country=tri/athcode=177492/index.html

Brown (10.02 in 2007, 2008)
http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/biographies/letter=b/country=tri/athcode=170098/index.html
VB, the man ran 20.41 in 2001. He was born in 1984 - he was 16 when he ran the automatic time.

So now CROSS, I challenge you - TELL IT LIKE IT IS (in your own words).

Regarding your bias, just look at your last 4-5 posts re: Brown vs. Burns.

Naive??? You ever compete for T&T at either junior or senior levels, set regional age group or meet records, or win medals? When you "dream" about that come back and talk, yuh semp!!!

When Hasely Crawford pulled up in 1972, many wrote him off. When he won his race in 1976, few (even within the officiating bodies) provided him assistance. Yet he came back and prevailed. The first words out of his mouth after winning were expletives directed at all the doubters, people like you.

If you ever spent countless evenings on tracks, cane fields, running hills, fighting through injuries, being told there isn't enough money to take an entire team to a meet, enduring biased officials, enduring the pains of extremely hard weight, road, track workouts, listening to hecklers in the crowd when you down, getting pats on the back from to same MFs when you are up, you will understand what it is to RESPECT unconditionally, a talented athlete and current WJR 100m holder like Brown, regardless of where he is in his career, and understand why others still think that based on his awesome achievements, that he can rise again.

Dude, you have NOOOOOOOO clue what it takes to get to his level at 18 to be a silver medal at senior worlds and set a WJR, NOOOOOOOO clue how hard that is.

If you had an inkling you would understand what a dangerous talent like that can do regardless of the REASONING that says he can't. Special athletes like that can defy the odds

So wehther I like or dislike the personality of a medaled national athlete, I will never downcry them at any stage of their career, and I will always be on the case of carnival barkers like you!!!!



what god you talking about?  steups.  Anyway listen, I said the times were false for the ENTIRE trials, not just Brown's time.  His times are pedestrian  and he can no more challenge the top 10 than I can!  Put that in yuh naive pipe and smoke it!

I dont cry down brown and big up Burns, wey you getting dat from.  I cry down people here who big up brown like he is de second coming...he is average and that is what he is, why would I suggest that he is anything but?

His one time under 10 was a flash in the pan, ooops I mean an short track or a misfiring timing equipment...NONE of the athletes in that race ever came close to such times again.  NONE, Brown or Burns or the other runners...NONE!

SO for the jokers here, and I categorize you as one ah dem eh...have no clue about reality.

Saying Brown looking relaxed running a 10.36//steups, He better look relaxed running dem times, any more relaxed he woulda be in a walking race to Burger King....

I doh hate him, I doh cry him down, I just call it AS IT IS>>>>>>>>try it.

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What about Track & Field / Re: darrel brown
« on: May 25, 2011, 08:42:16 AM »
Cross,

Whether or not Ashwin Creed was mis-quoted by the journalist as a coach, he was actually the one to encourage none other than Richard Thompson to pursue track and field seriously.

You say Brown's 9.99 was false, so tell me what has Burns done since his 9.96 in the same race?

Which athlete with 10.01 WJR credentials and 9.99 PB wouldn't aspire to challenge the best in the world? Knowing what he has done before and given he is older (at 26/27 which is younger than Powell) and wiser about his craft, why shouldn't he have an encouraging outlook? I suppose young Lemaitre of France with his 9.98 PB is out of place in recently stating similar goals.

I suspect you come from a school of thought that the more you call a man a "shit hound" or something similar, that the shame of doing so will jolt that person into performing better. That is old school!! For the 2 athletes that might work for, there will be 8 others who will give up trying because of the negativity, believing that they are not good enough.

Regardless of your "balanced" comments in your previous post, you obviously have a case of bias vile towards DB. How else will someone consistently debase the man with such fervor. I suppose you must do the same with the T&T football team or the Windies cricket team? I suspect not, and their case is much more frustrating than Brown. The man has had a recurring hip flexor injury, it's not like he doesn't want to train hard. I have been disappointed with DB myself, thinking he was a "slacker" and wondering why he was "afraid" to run 200m given that he ran 20.40 as a 16 year old, but I have never had a hip flexor injury and tried to run a fast bend.

So my advice to you Cross is try to be impartial, don't down cry Brown yet big up Burns, you only make yourself look biased and/or uninformed.

At the end of the day, Brown is free to pursue his craft and nothing you say will impact his desire to persevere and do so, maybe even get back to where he was and further.

With Trinis like you, the rest of us do not need adversaries, you like a snake in we own chicken coop.
Before you lash out and cuss me for this as you usually do, think with that brain God give you.

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Brown is now based in T&T and is coached by Trevor Hewitt and Ashwin Creed.
BIG ASS STEUPS, WHO DE HELL IS ASHWIN CREED TO TRAIN ANYONE?  Ashwin could not run away from ah pot hound if he get kecth tiefing ah damn mango.

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In 2005, Brown ran a personal best 9.99 seconds in finishing second to Marc Burns (9.96) at the National Championships. Six years later, that 9.99 run is still his lone legal sub-10 clocking
.

That is becasue the times for that race were ALL fake...as good as a damn false start...steups.

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Brown is confident he can challenge the Big Three of global sprinting—Jamaica's double Olympic and world champion Usain Bolt, American Tyson Gay and Powell.
"Anything could happen. Once I'm in tip, top shape, I could be up there with the top three, actually the top five guys, because you have (Jamaicans) Yohann Blake and Nesta Carter now.
::)

Oh gard...ah go pee!  That is some funny shit right there.  Get er done Brown!

lol  :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil:






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What about Track & Field / Re: darrel brown
« on: May 12, 2011, 09:25:58 AM »
Both of my grand mothers are dead....jes like Browne

Trinity, I really thought you knew better. Sure you can come on here and bash the man. I realize that aint changing. But, let me remind you, this is the internet and it is not a good idea to post an analogy like the one above. Very bad decision bro. I know you can go back an edit that, but remember what goes on the internet usually stays on some way shape or form. If I was the moderator you would be banned. You definitely need to be more conscious of posting an analogy like that!

yuh is ah clown or wha?


Gawd on Pitch, just tolerate the Cross. Historically he hates Brown for some unknown reason, just doh respond to him, it's pointless, the man is beyond help

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What about Track & Field / Re: darrel brown
« on: May 10, 2011, 05:09:53 AM »
One step at a time.

Darrel always looks "relaxed" when he runs, so he may not necessarily been "toying" with the opposition, but running as best he could at this point. No sense rushing him back too fast, it is what it is.

Given the criticisms, I propose Trinity Cross and his grandmother for TT 4x100m, I supporting all my Trini athletes, no matter what. :rotfl:

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What about Track & Field / Re: TT Relays
« on: May 09, 2011, 05:03:26 PM »
I know TT have both 4x100 teams (mens&womens). But how about 4x400? Not much to name for both mens and womens teams. Who else is there besides RQ and JG? And for the women, I figure that JB and JL should be good for 4x400.

Could anyone name others for the team? If not, then it does not look as if TT will have a 4x400 for men and women for the world champs.

There's Zwede Hewitt at Baylor, Ade Alleyne-Forte at LSU, Emmanuel Mayers at Mississippi State, Jarrid Solomon, and a few juniors Deon Lendore who will do well with opening round legs.

I think as long as the college guys aren't burnt out come May/June and someone has the good sense to start them running in different combinations in low level meets (Martinique, Venezuela, etc) they should come up with a core crew that I think should be able to run near 3 flat (46 low, 44 highs/45 lows middle legs, and a RQ high 43 leg). That's of course with astute preparation and alignment of stars.

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I thought this was a hoax when I first read it but it seems legit.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLKxtUcc6ig

ZIMBABWE'S star long jumper Ngonidzashe Makusha once again stole the show from his Florida State University track and field teammates during the 2011 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Championships at Durham in Northern Carolina, United States, at the weekend.

According to reports from Durham, Makusha won the long jump event on Friday with a good leap of 7,74m before he helped the FSU 4x100m relay team to a top place podium finish in the three-day championships.

The 23-year-old Zimbabwean's exploits in both the long jump and 4x100m relay events helped the FSU men's outdoor track and field team to sprint its way to the top spot on the conference podium just as it has done the last six consecutive seasons.

.......

Junior Maurice Mitchell, who was named the MVP of the men's track events, earned the individual title in the race by zooming to a lifetime best time of 20.19 that tied former FSU star Walter Dix's 2007 ACC record.

Finishing second was Brandon Byram (20,57) and Charles Clark (20,78) was third while Brandon O'Conner (20,91) place fourth.

........
 
Posting the first championship performance of the day were Kemar Hyman, Mitchell, Makusha and David Ambler.

The quartet of Seminoles raced to victory in the men's 400m relay thanks to a time of 39.61.

The win marked Makusha's second title of the weekend as he individually won the men's long jump on Friday.

And it wasn't his last.

Makusha blazed his way to a 9.97-second championship performance in the men's 100m dash to set the ACC record.

Joining Makusha on the podium after the lightning-quick race were Mitchell (10.03) and Hyman (10.27), who finished second and third, respectively. Ambler placed sixth with a time of 10.41.

"It might have been our biggest day at the conference meet ever," FSU head coach Bob Braman said.

"I mean Ngoni runs the fastest time in the world this year. Maurice runs the fifth-fastest time. We were really, really excited. It was a great day."

Makusha, who won the long jump competition a day earlier and is ranked No. 1 in the nation in that event, delivered a blistering time of 9,97 in the finals to knock off last year's champ, Mitchell, by just ,06 seconds.

It was the first time Makusha had competed in the 100m in his career. At any meet. And all the national-champion long jumper did was put up the fastest time in the world this year and break the ACC record in the process.

"Everyone went crazy," Braman said with a laugh.


 
"And then everyone immediately looked at the wind. Assuming it was five meters or something. Or a hurricane."

The tail-wind was a legal two metres. So now, along with Mitchell's 10.03, FSU sprints coach Ken Harnden's dynamic duo has two of the top five times in the world.

Harnden is a former Zimbabwean Olympian and is now coaching at FSU.

"The Florida coach texted Ken about 30 seconds after the race and said, 'congrats,'" Braman said.

Yep. Running a 9,97 and 10,03 gets everyone's attention real quick.


Along with Makusha and Mitchell, Florida State's Kemar Hyman (10,27) finished in third place and David Ambler (10,41) finished sixth, giving the Seminoles 27 crucial points in the event.

..........

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What about Track & Field / Re: CARIFTA 2011
« on: January 07, 2011, 10:08:36 AM »
doh worry T&T will come to the rescue again

Looks like Bahamas will be hosting the 2011 Carifta Games:
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110107/sports/sports3.html

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What about Track & Field / Re: Commonwealth Games
« on: October 05, 2010, 12:54:09 PM »
STMB,dwolfman and any of the other posters;
I am not a flagbearer for India,my main point was how negative the white press could be when they report from a black country on anything,they could be spiteful in a way that hurts,that is my main gripe.I'll give you an example in England,if there is a news report concerning a health issue the cameras would zoom in on black or brown people while they are shooting the news item at a hospital,it gives the white viewer an immediate negative view of us as black people, most likely  live in foreign and is aware of what I am saying.

 I like your explanation of how watless people leave TT and make something of themselves when they go foreign,that reminds me of me coz my parents always thought I was a watless so and so because I didn't achieve like my sisters and brother.I was always in trouble at school for minor things,I was once locked up for riding a bike on the South Trunk Road,I also got knocked down by atruck while riding my friend's new bike.The bike was mashed up and my father had to pay for it.I am totally different now and my only regret is that they are not around to see me now.
Regards mate!

There are decent people of all races and there are ignorant counterparts as well. It is left to the common sense of viewers/readers to discern what is fact from what is rubbish or skewed information. Bias is human nature and will not go away, so don't lose sleep over it. Doing a positive 180 on your life is just the kind of example that will sway the perceptions of the ignorant over time. India needs to do the same, and maybe successfully hosting these games will help.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Commonwealth Games
« on: October 04, 2010, 03:02:13 PM »
STMB
I understand what you are saying but have you seen the same pictures that was being flashed around the world after the job was completed,I am sure you haven't,the reason is simple...press and TV dont want to show anything that would make India look good.Since when some water and some mud ever kill anybody,the job was done and everything was up to standard in the end.I always find it strange that India always brings out such a response regarding anything.People around the world knows full well that India is now first world and third world,they are a paradox and are self sufficient in everything you or anybody care to mention.I am not Indian and I can detect a bit of jealousy towards India ,and these games were a big chance to highlight anything no matter how trivial.Have you seen the porverty and slums of China,South Africa,Nigeria,Ghana the Philipines etc,well even if you had it wouldn't mean much to anybody.India has had a 10 year plan in operation to mash down all the slums in their cities,that takes time but they are on the move.Their infrastructure is not up to 100%yet but they are working towards that,if Indian professionals were to leave the UK,USA and Canada today they would all be in big du du,the same place they trying to run down because of a trivial matter of cleaning up.

Frico, I have seen several "after" pictures but not of the same rooms. They do look spacious and clean and I am sure only a small percentage of rooms were in such a deplorable state in the first place, but bottom line, that was just not acceptable knowing that officials were visiting to check on status. Even when Prince Charles toured the village this weekend they took him on a "sanitized" tour as loose ends were still being tied up in a hurry.

No doubt most third world countries have amazing talent in all fields of study and endeavor but just like T&T, there's that environmental factor. You take a "watless" Trini out of the island and put them to ketch arse in the UK or US and in short time they are winning employee of the month awards, getting their degree online, and so on. But when they repatriate after several years, they get seduced by the perks, nuance between innovation and corruption, the corporate liming and drinks culture, and "wait til tomorrow" attitude that is pervasive.

So while no doubt there is the talent, skill and know-how in India to host these large events, the "diligence" required in planning, executing, and controlling the delivery of such initiatives leaves a lot to be desired, and well that kind of cultural change (diligence and urgency in business) takes a generation or more to materialize. India may be "first world" but only in wealthy pockets here and there.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Commonwealth Games
« on: October 04, 2010, 12:00:04 PM »
I dont know what levels of squalor you are talking about,I am not in Delhi to know but what I do know is the very negative reporting that is usually put out by British TV when its to do with third world countries.I see it on British TV every day,I am certain its the same in Canada,Australia,NZ and the rest.I looked at the news in England and everyday for 12 days prior to the opening they brought you the same bloody pictures,I have read the papers where athletes are all very pleased with the facilities and all else that goes with the games.The fact is the same pictures were brought on a daily basis to satisfy the ignorants around the world.There seems to be some sort of euphoria with the reporting which somehow seems to be degrading India's efforts,I am pleased that India proved them all wrong,even if they completed the job at the last moment.India will be much better for this experience,and remember they are growing fast not like the rest of the world who are hit by austerity and recession.

Pictures don't lie, there are many of them, and if you can't see squalor in them then..... But again, when foot bridges collapse, Indian athletes (snake story) and past heroes (Milka Singh) speak badly about the accommodations and preparation, then regardless of Western/European/whatever bias, you know there is a fair amount of truth to this.

The fact is, Indian officials and athletes have been to other CWGs and other major Games and know what is expected of a professionally run hosting. I hope the rest of the games conclude without hitches but I tell you, I will continue to hope and cringe until the last T&T athlete gets back on the plane home.

Put it another way, I do not remember this same media having negative reports about Malaysia when they hosted the games in 1998, and well Malays don't resemble Brits, Canucks, Aussies, or Kiwis

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What about Track & Field / Re: Commonwealth Games
« on: October 04, 2010, 11:11:18 AM »
Is it any surprise that there have been very negative reporting about the venues for the Commonwealth games,I am not surprised at the same pictures that were shown for 11 days on British Tellyvision.I just wonder whether those reporters took into account that India suffered with the worst Monsoon in 60 years,I am sure they knew but they refused to excuse India.We are all well aware how the western world have made a "fine art" of negative reporting from third world countries,its always good news though,for the gullible and ignorants who are easily taken by a few pictures,well travelled and intelligent people know better.It must have gone down like a dose of salts to all those who were waiting for the worst,India proved all those ignorants and gullibles wrong big time and every Commonwealth country are present at the games,it might be of interest to say that India is the second fastest growing economy in the world while those who were reporting on India are in recession "big time",let them just STFU and enjoy the games.Mr.Johnson can also STFU and stick to commenting on athletics and nothing more,he is not a bloody architect.


If I may, India had 8 years to prepare for these games. Even today Milka Singh, India's only CWGs athletics gold medallist said that the planning was poor and corruption rampant, that they should have completed construction a long time ago.

I believe quite a few of us on this discussion board have had the privilege of representing T&T or attending games in far less "advanced" countries (in terms of economic growth) than India. I myself have been to games at the junior and senior levels, in the Caribbean, North/Central/South America and Europe. I cannot say I have ever seen the level of squalor shown in the photos (or even if it is now cleaned up, thinking about what my accommodations may have looked like a few days before). The worst I came across (culturally) was in Central American settings where it is customary to wipe you know where and place your paper in a basket for removal instead of flushing. There was also the custom of spitting on the floor and spreading it around slowly with ones' feet. I also heard in Beijing, hacking/hawking and spitting is such a "sport" that the government put up signs stating "No hacking/hawking".

At this stage (arriving at the games village), it's 99% mental in terms of the athletes' final preparation. The last thing you want to be worried about is whether the basic amenities such as lights water and A/C will be on, the possibility of snakes in your room, contracting dengue fever, etc. Short of potential security issues, those things should be fully under control.

Maybe India should have chosen a "drier" city given the monsoons, but I guess they want to put New Delhi on show for all its positives, but sadly that also showcases the realities of its slums and corruption. Philosophically, it's probably better to show the GOOD and the BAD instead of trying to shovel the latter under the "carpet". I think visitors, media and the athletes will come away not only with pleasant memories but also a sobering appreciation for the effort put forth, in spite of the challenging realities.

The experience of these games will hopefully also serve to advance the diligence of the CWG committee's Games bid/selection process, so that other "developing" countries hoping to host future games can better understand the expectations and standards, and the challenges that need to addressed.

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