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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2006, 04:44:30 PM
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FIFA World Cup store (http://www.fifaworldcupstore.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2292&pcount=&Product_Id=213003)
just saw it there $65 USD
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Well well well, getting the new design after all. Still an Iraqi jersey though.
(http://www.fifaworldcupstore.com/images/catalog/productimages/300/51568.JPG)
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Somebody find out WTF is de deal with that FAWKIN PATCH ??
Flex, Tallman, Insider, Sweetiepaper, Ato.... SOMEBODY!!
p.s. wha bout de away kit?
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no away kit on FIFA....
that is the kit we will be wearing in the cup.....disapointed i wanted the F10 design(spain,france,germany etc)
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They saying Pre-order
steuuuups
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It on europsort too
http://soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=1&pcount=&Product_Id=213003&Key_id=&SearchQuery=trinidad
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What really goin on with dat logo in truth? ent we have a new logo?
when i went into sportys world dey had a pik of both kits d away kit is- just replace d red with white and d white with red
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Thanx for the links! I find d stripe could have been black rather than white tho. Any news on the away kit?
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THE IRAQ FLAG ON OUT JERSEY MUST GO.
i know you reading this board so i beg of you to call uncls jack and fix this for me please.
yours respectfully
morvantman :beermug:
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same price on FIFA and Eurosport websites. Which one better to order from?
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dah patch look like it jus stick on dey..and ah agree it shoulda be black strip instead ah white...black and red make up most of our colours and it looks incomplete without black...jus my opinion.
Big Up!
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daz a steel pan on the sleeve?? haha
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i want de long sleeve one dred.
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same price on FIFA and Eurosport websites. Which one better to order from?
Looks like the same merchant selling for both sites. I preordered mine from FIFA but the confirmation email came from the Eurosport merchant.
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How is this the Iraqi flag? Our national colours are Red, Black and White. Do we need to have the colours arranged in the form of the flag on our jersey for it to signify Trinidad and Tobago?
Additionally, for aesthetic value, who is to say that the flag would look better than the red, white and black background that the jersey already has? The TTFF crest has a sash, as does the national flag. How would they look on top of each other?
Another point is that who says I want the TTFF crest sitting on top of my National Flag? eh? That eh right man.
I like the jersey just so.
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daz a steel pan on the sleeve?? haha
ah see de pan on de sleeve :rotfl:
poi poi kitchener watermark and we good to go
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THE IRAQ FLAG ON OUT JERSEY MUST GO.
i know you reading this board so i beg of you to call uncls jack and fix this for me please.
yours respectfully
morvantman :beermug:
I 2nd dat! this is ah unofficial petition!
DeSoWa
Big Up!
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http://www.fifa.com/en/organisation/confederations/associationdetails/0,1483,IRQ,00.html?countrycode=IRQ
thats how it iz the iraq flag
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daz a steel pan on the sleeve?? haha
ah see de pan on de sleeve :rotfl:
poi poi kitchener watermark and we good to go
ent Morvant
it remind meh of Turkey jersey instead of the Muslim moon and star is ah TTFA patch
France jersey is the baddest Adidas jersey I see for the world cup
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there goes my plans for wearing my jersey in the middle east
men go think i from iraq and start meh
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It ent look like FIFA shipping to the UK!!.. steups. Guess we go have to wait a bit longer.
I agree dat jersey need a strip of black somewhere, and dat iraqi flag ting REAL REAL FAIL!!!!
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I eh have a problem with the jersey...
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
actually it not RED enuff ;D ;D
Big Up!
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france get d F10 design, we get d F up design.say what.
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
ah cyar lie i does preach compromise too but de wrong flag
nah man thats ah diss
then again iz trini so we have to take that and cool it ent.................
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this comming from the same board that protested foxsports from calling we soccer warriors now we get de wrong flag and iz nuttin
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
ah cyar lie i does preach compromise too but de wrong flag
nah man thats ah diss
then again iz trini so we have to take that and cool it ent.................
well i do feel like we may be complainin too much... buh really why dey couldnt just but a trini flag wit a black outline...
it really is retarded.
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that iraqi flag is giving me some real doubts about gettin this jersey.
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Don’t you think Jack and his cohorts had a say (maybe the final say) in the design of the jersey. If so, it eh has nothing to do with Adidas.
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This is where warrior nation should step in. If the membership is not happy with certain aspects of the national kit and if the displeasure is warranted, then representatiaves from the supporters association should submit in writing an official letter stating our concern. We hadda start doing things the right way. If the TTFF really recognizes us as an official supporters association then they should at least take into our consideration our concerns and submit an official response.
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At this point I give up. First it was tickets to the Bahrain game at home, then came the WC ticket issue. We could preach Paul, say 15 Hail Mary's...Jack and company running things and we the supporters cah do a damn thing about it. Not even TTFF.
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What really goin on with dat logo in truth? ent we have a new logo?
when i went into sportys world dey had a pik of both kits d away kit is- just replace d red with white and d white with red
That new logo is just the endorsement logo for the actual TTFF Company
it will not be on the national jerseys
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It is a flicking IRAQ flag and it NEEDS to go!!!!. Unless we is not de Soca Warriors anymore but de Sadam Warriors!
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How is this the Iraqi flag? Our national colours are Red, Black and White. Do we need to have the colours arranged in the form of the flag on our jersey for it to signify Trinidad and Tobago?
Additionally, for aesthetic value, who is to say that the flag would look better than the red, white and black background that the jersey already has? The TTFF crest has a sash, as does the national flag. How would they look on top of each other?
Another point is that who says I want the TTFF crest sitting on top of my National Flag? eh? That eh right man.
I like the jersey just so.
The man not saying that the national flag would make a better background, he is saying that there is no need for any background at all.
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The man not saying that the national flag would make a better background, he is saying that there is no need for any background at all.
Thank u JDB... sometimes I does wonder at ppl comprehension skills
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Hopefully we get them in some stores in Canada as well instead of ordering online
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AHHHH Ah still bawling... oh gorm ah tink ah having ah orgasm
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It ent look like FIFA shipping to the UK!!.. steups. Guess we go have to wait a bit longer.
I agree dat jersey need a strip of black somewhere, and dat iraqi flag ting REAL REAL FAIL!!!!
Bill, I'm pretty sure the shirt will be on sale in UK sports stores, seeing as all dey really sell is football kits! It will definitely be on sale at d Adidas store on Oxford Street, so yuh dont need to waste time ordering online.
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i want de long sleeve one dred.
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ah was warming up to the kit from de Iceland game too
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it have 1 simple way to protest against the sh!t adidas put together and call a kit that represent me and my football team a) make it known (in writing to customer service or something.....somebody have an email address we could write to?) and b)....involve you and your US $65.
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me eh like de jersey too much but yuh know wha? its a trinidad jersey so i still getting it. is there a way to get it customized?
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me eh like de jersey too much but yuh know wha? its a trinidad jersey so i still getting it. is there a way to get it customized?
well yea to a certain extent though... simple shit.
Like... Player Name - Player Number - Home/Away - Long Sleeve/Short Sleeve -??? hey wait... do we have an alternate color?
doubt it.
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it have 1 simple way to protest against the sh!t adidas put together and call a kit that represent me and my football team a) make it known (in writing to customer service or something.....somebody have an email address we could write to?) and b)....involve you and your US $65.
Breds i think this is very simple,if the TTFF accepted the uniform our players wearing their is nothing you or i can do,i'm sure this design and logo was presented to the TTFF for confirmation and they accepted,you can't blame Adidas they don't tell you what you should wear,that's not how business is done,they present samples that's what our Federation selected.
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There's a pic of the away kit in Francis Fashions, as a little poster. If I remember, it's pretty much the opposite of the home version, main white with a red strip. Red shorts I think too.
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There's a pic of the away kit in Francis Fashions, as a little poster. If I remember, it's pretty much the opposite of the home version, main white with a red strip. Red shorts I think too.
That away kit sounding awful :(
I was hoping we wud get a black away kit, but it sound like we go be running out on d pitch looking like Poland
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yea it can and should be better... but being realistic is not like they will re-call millions of already produced kits... so i suppose we just have to try we best to enjoy de ting we geh...
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There's a pic of the away kit in Francis Fashions, as a little poster. If I remember, it's pretty much the opposite of the home version, main white with a red strip. Red shorts I think too.
That away kit sounding awful :(
I was hoping we wud get a black away kit, but it sound like we go be running out on d pitch looking like Poland
ha true...
sounds almost like river plate kinda kit... may not be that bad actually.
Adam ah go hadda check dat tomorrow.
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It's too late to petition really, being realistic. Granted I think we can still complain, it should've been the real flag.
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I was hoping we wud get a black away kit, but it sound like we go be running out on d pitch looking like Poland
We would only be able to wear a black kit at night games. Black absorbs heat man.
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ha true...
sounds almost like river plate kinda kit... may not be that bad actually.
Adam ah go hadda check dat tomorrow.
Me too, I was a bit in a rush when I went to sign my name. But it was on the little plastic display with a piece of paper inside, one side with the home and the other with the away. Could look right on the counter there in west mall at the front.
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yeh d away kit is like d ole finta it has a white pants but a red pants if clashing
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ha true...
sounds almost like river plate kinda kit... may not be that bad actually.
Adam ah go hadda check dat tomorrow.
Me too, I was a bit in a rush when I went to sign my name. But it was on the little plastic display with a piece of paper inside, one side with the home and the other with the away. Could look right on the counter there in west mall at the front.
West Mall.. I signed at L.C.
hmph... ah hope it looks good though...
didnt they reveal the away shirt in de same press conference before de Iceland match?
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
we need a vermillion
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daz a steel pan on the sleeve?? haha
ah see de pan on de sleeve :rotfl:
poi poi kitchener watermark and we good to go
yah, all the nations w/ adidas have that "pan" I got the German pan on mines. :D
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
Allyuh men could cry all allyuh want... this is the kit. I like it AS IS.
Since when the fans have any say on how a national team kit looks? What country's fans have a say? Tell me that? As Coop's said, this was most likely presented to TTFF and accepted.
No matter what they had do, no matter what they had come up with people woulda complain.
That is simply a Trini's nature.
And I am still not hearing anybody respond to whether it is okay to have our National Flag sitting under anything, or acting as the background for anything. I doh know about allyuh, but my National Flag is always in the FOREFRONT and does not serve as the BACKGROUND for any other crest, even TTFF.
Give me the red, black and white design as a result.
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THE IRAQ FLAG ON OUT JERSEY MUST GO.
i know you reading this board so i beg of you to call uncls jack and fix this for me please.
yours respectfully
morvantman :beermug:
I agree with you 100%. That IRAQI flag on the uniform is awful and should be removed. And the flag is in the background with a relatively unknown symbol on the top.
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it have 1 simple way to protest against the sh!t adidas put together and call a kit that represent me and my football team a) make it known (in writing to customer service or something.....somebody have an email address we could write to?) and b)....involve you and your US $65.
Breds i think this is very simple,if the TTFF accepted the uniform our players wearing their is nothing you or i can do,i'm sure this design and logo was presented to the TTFF for confirmation and they accepted,you can't blame Adidas they don't tell you what you should wear,that's not how business is done,they present samples that's what our Federation selected.
Your statement is correct, but it does not address the issue of correcting a mistake.
It is not too late to correct the mistake. T&T is on the world stage, for the first time, we need our flag on the jersey and I would like to see the name of the country on the Jersey. Again USA and Australia put their name on their jerseys. There is nothing on the jersey that says T&T, or rather there is nothing that would enable the average person in T&T or the wider Caribbean to identify that Jersey with the T&T team. After all the TTFF crest is relatively unknown. And when we are talking about a worldwide audience, many would be confused because to them that is the flag of IRAQ.
We need to write the Prime Minister, the Minister of Tourism, the Players Union or representative, and Senator Ato Boldon
I like the style and colors of the Jersey.
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So after reading every post and I must say some value points were given, who is taking the initiative to write these letters to the Prime Minister, the Senator etc
I'm only seeing we should do this and we should do that.
I'm not seeing well I will.....
Is this going to be one of the several discussions to be spoken of and no action taken ?
just an observation :beermug:
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Again, stop with the crap. What else, the Red too bright! fack man!
Allyuh men could cry all allyuh want... this is the kit. I like it AS IS.
Since when the fans have any say on how a national team kit looks? What country's fans have a say? Tell me that? As Coop's said, this was most likely presented to TTFF and accepted.
No matter what they had do, no matter what they had come up with people woulda complain.
That is simply a Trini's nature.
And I am still not hearing anybody respond to whether it is okay to have our National Flag sitting under anything, or acting as the background for anything. I doh know about allyuh, but my National Flag is always in the FOREFRONT and does not serve as the BACKGROUND for any other crest, even TTFF.
Give me the red, black and white design as a result.
Jahyouth,
Reading comprehension > You
The man not saying that the national flag would make a better background, he is saying that there is no need for any background at all.
name one country with a square behind dey crest... it is cosquel, distasteful, and from anything other than very close up... not recognizable as the TTFF crest....
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I call kitbag and Adidias in England and they both said mid may !
How they hell FIFA selling it in the US already !
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I call kitbag and Adidias in England and they both said mid may !
How they hell FIFA selling it in the US already !
is pre-orders dey taking, mang!
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I cant even pre order :'(
Might design my own crest while waiting !
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Ad want ah no 16 Spann
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It's too late to petition really, being realistic. Granted I think we can still complain, it should've been the real flag.
Spoken like a truetrini...doh ever fight for nothing, just take shit over and over and complain but do nothing about it because they figure that we can't make a difference...
That is the only reason, I could ever respect Jamaicans cause they doh take shit like we do.
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It's too late to petition really, being realistic. Granted I think we can still complain, it should've been the real flag.
Spoken like a truetrini...doh ever fight for nothing, just take shit over and over and complain but do nothing about it because they figure that we can't make a difference...
That is the only reason, I could ever respect Jamaicans cause they doh take shit like we do.
Fellas, hear this... all the time allyuh wanted a big name brand uniform sponsor. Ent? Allyuh forget about local man Rossi; allyuh run small man Finta; and was happy like pappy when we sign with Adidas. Not so?
Alright. Well fellas, the thing about the big companies like Adidas, Puma, Nike is that they are global corporations of monolithic size. With that comes advantages and disadvantages: one advantage is that the days of not being able to find a Trinidad and Tobago National team jersey are over -- they will be in every nook and cranny in all four corners of the world. The supply and distibution networks of the giants will assure this. One disadvantage is that unlike the smaller brands they are less agile and able to change quickly.
What am I saying? You see how they finally released an OFFICIAL model of the new jersey after all these months? That means that the wheels are already in motion, and they are already being manufactured and readied for shipment and sale.
Eh no way nuttin changing now on that kit. NO - WAY.
So if yuh eh like it, just doh buy it. It dat simple. All the talk about the patch and the white part shoulda be black and all that is just a waste of breath.
Really, it is.
Any attempt to redirect the global monster Adidas at this late stage is a complete and utter waste of time.
FF, how's that for Reading Comprehension?
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I think putting de flag behind the crest is not a good idea.Due to the fact that they both have stripes running cata corner. Leave de ting just so.
Time to kick ball!
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thanks west coast ah calling ah calling :rotfl:
they cyar shut me up atalllllllllllll
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The funny thing is that none of the other adidas sponsored teams have a flag behing there federation crest. Why do we have one? Is that the only thing that they can think of to make us different from the the rest other than giving us a different shirt?
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ok here is what i go do den
1 - send an email to the PM Expressing my dis-satisfaction (http://www.opm.gov.tt/pm/index.php?pid=1004)
2 - Express my dis-satisfaction with Senator Boldon here.
3 - Send ah email to TTFF (http://www.tnt.fifa.com/cda/cda_container/0,1503,countryCode=tto_localeID=102_siteCategoryID=2182_siteID=1002,00.html)
4 - Tell Soccer World that I am cancelling my order.
5 - Tell Adidas that I NOT buying it so (http://www.adidas-group.com/en/local/meta/contact/default.asp).
as one great person said.......
GET UP STAND UP.....................STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!!!
1 - I wonder how far up the chain that reaching? And the Government is not allowed to enfringe upon the territory of TTFF. That is the law of FIFA and extreme cases prompt banning. What can the Government do in this instance?
2 - If the Honorable UNC Senator Ato Boldon believes that with all the problems/issues in the country at present the design of the patch on the team jersey is needing of his attention, well then I doh know what to say.
3 - Send an email to TTFF??? Are you kidding me? This deal done signed, sealed and delivered. And besides, they eh study nobody email when tickets were being "distributed", why would they study anybody now?
4 - Go ahead brother... that is your right.
5 - Now THAT is laughable. Go ahead and send a message to Adidas. hahahahhahahaha :rotfl:
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yuh rell negative boy jahyouth
if we was in slavery would you be saying the same thing.
just because it seems impossible doesnt mean you cant try.
if it was fuh thinking like that noah wouldnt built the arc, we wouldnt have electricity, the world would still be flat etc...............
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:-[ :-[ :'( :'( :( :( >:( >:(
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dah patch look like it jus stick on dey..and ah agree it shoulda be black strip instead ah white...black and red make up most of our colours and it looks incomplete without black...jus my opinion.
Big Up!
At the last WC Japan's stripes and logo were printed on. Milan's shirt when they won the CL on penalties vs Juve had printed stripes on the sleeves.
I think Adidas takin some short cuts with the shirts nowadays.
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i think we should have gotten an embroided logo rather than that patch. is the adidas logo embroided???
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dah patch look like it jus stick on dey..and ah agree it shoulda be black strip instead ah white...black and red make up most of our colours and it looks incomplete without black...jus my opinion.
Big Up!
At the last WC Japan's stripes and logo were printed on. Milan's shirt when they won the CL on penalties vs Juve had printed stripes on the sleeves.
I think Adidas takin some short cuts with the shirts nowadays.
I can tell you the German shirt I bought has everything embroidered, the crest, the adidas logo, the logo on the sleave. The colored curves on the shirt are separate cloth pieces sewn together. Very high quality.
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Print ? WTF!!! ADIASS looking for big stone?
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have you already seen the new trinidad & tobago away jersey?
the white one?
There is one in ebay Germany...
I have a picture
http://cgi.ebay.de/NEU-adidas-Trinidad-und-Tobago-Trikot-weiss-Gr-S-XL_W0QQitemZ8785522468QQcategoryZ123263QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
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I hearing plenty opinions... what you tink?
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ah doh like it... but unfortunately we really cyah do nuttin now.
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The Kit is O.K. but the flag has to go.
They should just have the TTFF logo without the Iraq flag background.
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The white looking ,cool doh I ain"t go lie,the crest looks smaller,than the red.But i wonder if these are prototypes.Adidas Should get Our Feed back ,they might not want us unhappy.Were paying good coin for this.
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i HATE da kit
an de logo
wa really goin on
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na man da kit is real crap
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At least on de white de crest position correct instead of starting quite under yuh arm on de red...
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de away actually looking better than de home >:( ah still do like dat background flag..hope something is done before it's too late. I am sure they can change it before they start shipment, since dey only taking pre orders now. somebdy please help!
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i HATE da kit
an de logo
wa really goin on
I hate it too, but I will still buy one. When it comes time for Adidas to renew their contract they will look at sales. If we don't support the team they will cancel their sponsorship.
In the early 90s Umbro was our sponsor and the Kit was sweet, but we did not buy so we lost their sponsorship.
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We need Liburd oe some other journalist to investigate the reason why we have the Iraqi flag behind the logo. I really want to know about the thought processes behind that decision.
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We is Trini, we should have d sickest shirt ever. adidas getting tie up yah know 8)
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NEWS FLASH: The US Army has announced today that they will be giving out the new Addidas Trinidad and Tobago WC kits to children in Iraq as a continued propoganda effort and to promote national unity amoung Iraqies.
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de away actually looking better than de home >:( ah still do like dat background flag..hope something is done before it's too late. I am sure they can change it before they start shipment, since dey only taking pre orders now. somebdy please help!
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I agree, away looking better dan d home (wudda still prefer a black away kit tho)
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I like de kit ...de logo will have to stay so because if yuh put de flag behind it with de 2 sets of stripes it go look funny....I get my 2 cents in ...now stop de damn debate
time tuh kick ball!
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i saw a shirt wen i was @ return fete here in toronto on sat
it was red on da back it said " warriors" under that it said "impossable is nothing"
@ the front it had a reg. TTFF crest with no flag behind it like the kit
why couldnt they make it like that ?? & does anyone know where i can get that shirt here in toronto ?
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If we wanted to wear the Iraqi flag., we woudda play for dem. It is disrespectful tht they can't realize that it definitely looks like another country's flag. They need to get rid of that background and just go with the crest. Plain talk.
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WARNING.......WARNING to all TRINI'S....entering JFK...LAX or any other US airport wearing these Iraqi endorsed jerseys will end up in FUH SURE LOCK UP in all yuh muddas ass ;D
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aye Bill...organize dah spellin for we nah! Jes hit de modify button and correct "addidas"...it making the colour scheme behind the badge look lil more tolerable.
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Somebody find out WTF is de deal with that FAWKIN PATCH ??
Flex, Tallman, Insider, Sweetiepaper, Ato.... SOMEBODY!!
p.s. wha bout de away kit?
yeah...dah juzzy real fretting meh now in trute.
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d away decent we should have gotten a way better design buh no scene das jus material we lookin fuh d pride and heart
how dat person have the away kit????
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SM ah tink you can go in any store and buy dat juhzee and then sew on the patch.....it look like dais what dem do..look at it good ;D de patch placement and size look real different from the home kit pic on page 1.
Big Up!
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at least he did not spell it ADIDASS ;D ah say leave it so until dey take de patch out ;D
Big Up!
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Is this the same kit they used in the Iceland game?
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didnt we get a new logo
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wow, i really thought i was the only one who hate the T&T kit...plus with a Iraq flag background of the ttff logo....what a shame that is...come on Mr. Warner what wrong with Adidas they need to change that and it's not to late
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aye Bill...organize dah spellin for we nah! Jes hit de modify button and correct "addidas"...it making the colour scheme behind the badge look lil more tolerable.
Fixed.. sorry about dat one. However with dat logo I agree it should really be adidASS
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i saw a shirt wen i was @ return fete here in toronto on sat
it was red on da back it said " warriors" under that it said "impossable is nothing"
@ the front it had a reg. TTFF crest with no flag behind it like the kit
why couldnt they make it like that ?? & does anyone know where i can get that shirt here in toronto ?
They were selling those from since the Bahrain game in T&T for $100 TT
Not sure if they still have them at home.
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i saw a shirt wen i was @ return fete here in toronto on sat
it was red on da back it said " warriors" under that it said "impossable is nothing"
@ the front it had a reg. TTFF crest with no flag behind it like the kit
why couldnt they make it like that ?? & does anyone know where i can get that shirt here in toronto ?
They were selling those from since the Bahrain game in T&T for $100 TT
Not sure if they still have them at home.
damm right now dat jersey lookin better dan da offical one right now
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Some more black would have been nice and even if they wanted to put a background on the crest either:
1) Someone in Adidas should have had the sense to not arrange the colors in the same order as the Iraqi or any other flag for that matter.
2) Someone at TTFF should have realized that it is another country's flag and asked for the change.
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Is this the same kit they used in the Iceland game?
yes it is......i think AWATT comin fuh yuh.
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Some more black would have been nice and even if they wanted to put a background on the crest either:
1) Someone in Adidas should have had the sense to not arrange the colors in the same order as the Iraqi or any other flag for that matter.
2) Someone at TTFF should have realized that it is another country's flag and asked for the change.
3) they should of realized that the patch is not cutting it
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if u look to the right u notice it doesnt have the "watermark" logo
bootleg? lol
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if everybody decide that they ent accepting that crap, and NOT BUY it, and tell them THIS IS WHY WE NOT BUYING IT, and we spread some negative publicity around...of course they will listen to us. That would be hurting their PROFIT line. I wonder what the team thinks about the juzzy...if dey cool with it I go be cool with it, but otherwise I fed up of being shafted by bigger heads.
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look good and yuh go see ah blasted iraq flag
stupesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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(http://www.fifaworldcupstore.com/images/catalog/productimages/300/51568.JPG)(http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/88/43/c8_1_b.JPG)
who we really supporting here? T&T or Iraq? de white looking to plain.
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look like T&T have a new flag that not flying anywhere except WC. So much for branding. Who was that Jacka$$ to approve that.
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there is a simple solution to all this iraq-flag-on-we-jersey nonsense!!
just simply wear yuh warrior nation juzzy at the games!!
ah love it!!
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As it stands at the time of writing this over 75% of us have a problem with or is embarrased by that logo. Surely we as de supporters should be able to do something about this... it can't believe is too late, we need to act now. I think that the solution has to come through the TTFF as they are the ones that had to have approved that rubbish, Jack where you??!!
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I showed a coworker here in the US our team jersey, and he said it's ah nice adidas jersey, but he doh find it represent our country..he say looking at it, it can be any country with red and white represented. Thank god he did not notice the patch lol ;D Look at we finta, when you see dat jersey, you know it Trinidad..it doh even have to have the country name it it..it fully represented. Dat adidas jus not representing atol atol.
Big Up!
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(http://www.fifaworldcupstore.com/images/catalog/productimages/300/51568.JPG)(http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/88/43/c8_1_b.JPG)
west coast,
trinidad jersey on ebay already? you have a link to the auction?
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All the argument about the WC kit right now is a mute point, I done pre-order mine and will wear it with pride cause I know exactly what it represents and i supporting my team, if somebody confuesed, i'll gladly explain to them. These jerseys already in mass production and it have no recall with WC less than 3 months away. When we first saw that badge last november before a WC kit was going to be produced, that was the time for the ranting to go on to effect change, nothing was done then and now everybody up in arms with the end result. Personally, I don't like that strip on the background either but i don't think anybody at adidas would knowingly put an Iraq flag on a Trinidad shirt, blame should rest on the TTFF for accepting such a design but as i said mute point. Either wear it and support or dont wear it support just as long as you support.
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I showed a coworker here in the US our team jersey, and he said it's ah nice adidas jersey, but he doh find it represent our country..he say looking at it, it can be any country with red and white represented. Thank god he did not notice the patch lol ;D Look at we finta, when you see dat jersey, you know it Trinidad..it doh even have to have the country name it it..it fully represented. Dat adidas jus not representing atol atol.
Big Up!
These comments are starting to border on ridiculous.
How did the Finta jersey tell someone (who has no idea what team it is) that it is the Trinidad and Tobago national Team?
How did the Rossi jersey of the Strike Squad (the checkerboard) tell anyone that it was the Trinidad and Tobago team without them knowing beforehand? Apart from the fact that Rossi was a local brand no-one could say that the jersey "screamed" Trinidad and Tobago and yet that was one of my favourite national kits.
Our colours are red, black and white. The kit is therfore a combination of red, black and white. Unless we do as posters said last year and have a fully independent design (pan watermark on the front and all!) we are going to have to make do with what designs Adidas or any other company decides to provide FROM THEIR CURRENT STOCK.
Very few teams across the globe have customised jerseys: Argentina skyblue and white stripes/Peru red sash on white background to name a couple. Others are recognizable ONLY by the colours e.g. Germany's jersey changes with every World Cup. They get whatever design is the predominant Adidas design in white with red, yellow and black somewhere on it. France usually gets the SAME Adidas jersey design in blue with red and white somewhere on it. How then apart from the crest, does anyone know what jersey each team is wearing?
I just do not get the constant b!tching about something over which we have no control?!
If yuh buying the jersey, buy it. If yuh not buying it, doh buy it. >:(
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you missing de point dreds..buh say wha..dais life...there is more to ah jerser than de colour eh..what I am saying dah adidas jersey, all you have to do is take out the patch and you can represent any other adidas sponsored team who colours are red and white. Now take the finta and take out the crest..which other team/country you think you can identify with if you wear it internationlly? it is more to it than jus colour it is the whole design.
Big Up!
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(http://www.fifaworldcupstore.com/images/catalog/productimages/300/51568.JPG)(http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/88/43/c8_1_b.JPG)
west coast,
trinidad jersey on ebay already? you have a link to the auction?
Jahyouth ah hope you see dis...dis is exactly what ah talking bout...you can get this damn jersey anywhere and put ah patch and call it TT national team kit..steups....and dah is wha adidas do...
Big Up!
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(http://www.fifaworldcupstore.com/images/catalog/productimages/300/51568.JPG)(http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/88/43/c8_1_b.JPG)
west coast,
trinidad jersey on ebay already? you have a link to the auction?
Jahyouth ah hope you see dis...dis is exactly what ah talking bout...you can get this damn jersey anywhere and put ah patch and call it TT national team kit..steups....and dah is wha adidas do...
Big Up!
But Andre yuh could do the same thing with 90% of the teams in the World Cup jersey!!!!!!!
That is how Adidas and them making money! They "sponsor" a set of teams and let them ALL wear a jersey type Adidas has designed. After the World Cup sales of these jerseys skyrocket -- both the generic version (without a national patch) and the varous national team varieties!
This is not charity. It is a business. And that is the business model.
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you missing de point dreds..buh say wha..dais life...there is more to ah jerser than de colour eh..what I am saying dah adidas jersey, all you have to do is take out the patch and you can represent any other adidas sponsored team who colours are red and white. Now take the finta and take out the crest..which other team/country you think you can identify with if you wear it internationlly? it is more to it than jus colour it is the whole design.
Big Up!
YOU are missing the point.
Please tell me what about the Finta design screamed "Trinidad and Tobago".
Please tell me this.
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Fellas have a look aand see. Look how many teams are WEARING THE EXACT JERSEY, just with corresponding national color schemes.
http://www.shopadidas.com/family/index.jsp?cp=2019627.2039608.2019536&doVSearch=no&categoryId=2181645&page=2&pageBucket=0&doVSearch=no
Germany
Nigeria
Denmark
France
Japan (although they have the luxury of a few extra lines!)
How would yall have felt if we had got this type and look like a copycat of all the other Adidas-sponsored teams? At least we got a different design, albeit a design that Adidas already had in stock.
This is just their business model. Sorry allyuh disappointed.
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you missing de point dreds..buh say wha..dais life...there is more to ah jerser than de colour eh..what I am saying dah adidas jersey, all you have to do is take out the patch and you can represent any other adidas sponsored team who colours are red and white. Now take the finta and take out the crest..which other team/country you think you can identify with if you wear it internationlly? it is more to it than jus colour it is the whole design.
Big Up!
With any kind of change comes a degree of hesitance and apprehension, Look how nobody complaining about the new forum now. For those who have been here since this new forum format started, remember how lots of us was only finding fault with everything here and wanted to go back to the discserver format? With time will come a level of acceptance. This kit thing too shall pass.
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you missing de point dreds..buh say wha..dais life...there is more to ah jerser than de colour eh..what I am saying dah adidas jersey, all you have to do is take out the patch and you can represent any other adidas sponsored team who colours are red and white. Now take the finta and take out the crest..which other team/country you think you can identify with if you wear it internationlly? it is more to it than jus colour it is the whole design.
Big Up!
With any kind of change comes a degree of hesitance and apprehension, Look how nobody complaining about the new forum now. For those who have been here since this new forum format started, remember how lots of us was only finding fault with everything here and wanted to go back to the discserver format? With time will come a level of acceptance. This kit thing too shall pass.
The new forum didn't look like another country!!!!, is not comparable. The dislike for the style of the jersey may pass but not dat Iraqi flag
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YEP just found out from Agustus
the logo will be replaced for the WC
thats nice
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sure?
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YEP just found out from Agustus
the logo will be replaced for the WC
thats nice
Replaced wid what?
Big Up!
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actually it would be better to be sharing the same design adidas
obvioulsy we got the back seat while the other "known" teams got the frontline design
just like the Nike, all the good teams have the same base design
thats how it is for all brands
we just get left out...
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All the argument about the WC kit right now is a mute point, I done pre-order mine and will wear it with pride cause I know exactly what it represents and i supporting my team, if somebody confuesed, i'll gladly explain to them. These jerseys already in mass production and it have no recall with WC less than 3 months away. When we first saw that badge last november before a WC kit was going to be produced, that was the time for the ranting to go on to effect change, nothing was done then and now everybody up in arms with the end result. Personally, I don't like that strip on the background either but i don't think anybody at adidas would knowingly put an Iraq flag on a Trinidad shirt, blame should rest on the TTFF for accepting such a design but as i said mute point. Either wear it and support or dont wear it support just as long as you support.
There are ppl in Adidas who gets paid for this stuff....it is called proper research. That is like putting a Russian flag on Holland's shirt. I am sure they would not stand for it......call it national pride or whatever else you want.
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actually it would be better to be sharing the same design adidas
obvioulsy we got the back seat while the other "known" teams got the frontline design
just like the Nike, all the good teams have the same base design
thats how it is for all brands
we just get left out...
we ent get left out... we is not ah frontline side for nobody but Finta and Rossi....
we sharing we design with Finland, Hungary and China and most likely a host of other second tier adidas teams
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iimitation is the sinceirest form of flatery
Trinidad and Tobago Has one of the top five most beautful flags in the world ent.t
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Anyone notice that they pulled the pic of the jersey? Now it just says "Image available 4-01-06".
Changes afoot?
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Anyone notice that they pulled the pic of the jersey? Now it just says "Image available 4-01-06".
Changes afoot?
hmmm on both Fifa and Eurosport dey take it down.... It would be nice to know somebody paying attention....
ah wonder wha going on? It might be simply that dey jump de gun with de pic.... it originally used to say available 4-01-06
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The placement of the TTFF logo is odd as well compare the pics below:
(http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/69481.JPG) (http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/74120.JPG) (http://store.worldcupblog.org/upload/tt_home_300.jpg).
Why is it so low compared to the others? It's level with the armpit of the jesrey.
The logo also looks oversized especially with 'Iraqi flag' behind it. From a design standpoint it's very poor.
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Look at the size of our logo, thats why it so low because it so big.
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Not necessarily.
If you look at how the stitching runs it could be moved up a bit......yes......I'm nitpicking..
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maybe its not the real jersey they are releasing
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The sticker patch/iraqi flag totally distracts from the TTFF crest...
in fact it is almost unrecognizable because the bands break up the outline... it is really just a poor design...
and for all the ppl who saying how it was there for the bahrain game and nobody make noise....
YES it was noticed....
YES it looked tacky
YES ppl criticize it
however it was less than a month after we had "dropped finta" and it was adidas old stocks... so it was presumed to be a rush job with no time to have the crest set up to be embroidered.... almost 6 months later and the crest hasnt been sorted out :-\ shameful
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The whole old stock kit shameful :-[
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Adidas did this in the winter olympics.
And they did it to the Germans no less.
They had the stripes in the wrong order which was the Belgian flag.
Deutsche Welle
NEWS | 15.02.2006
Olympic Spirit Shines Through as Germany Boosts Belgium (http://www.deutsche-welle.de/dw/article/0,2144,1905163,00.html)
(http://www.deutsche-welle.de/image/0,,1904452_1,00.jpg)
Germany's Martina Glagow won the biathlon bronze ... for Belgium?
Sportsmanship is one thing but taking part in an Olympic discipline for the glory of another country is taking it to the extreme. It's not exactly what's happened but the Germans are certainly giving Belgium a hand.
Belgian biathlon fans were celebrating a bronze medal at the winter Olympics this week despite the fact that they have no competitors in the competition and the recipient of the medal, Martina Glagow, was actually German.
In fact, Belgium stands to win a whole clutch of medals in Turin, specifically in the biathlon and Nordic skiing disciplines, because of a mix up in kit which places around 30 German athletes in the wrong camp.
Due to mistakes made in German sportswear giant adidas's Far East factories, German skiers have to wear caps in Belgian national colors during the first week of the games.
Far East mess-up has Germans representing Belgium
(http://www.deutsche-welle.de/image/0,,1905415_1,00.jpg)
The Belgian flag: Not too dissimilar to the German one
The confusion in the Orient has led to the Belgian flag -- horizontal blocks of black-yellow-red -- replacing the German flag -- horizontal black-red-gold stripes -- on the athletes' official kit.
"We regret this technical mistake and do apologize to all athletes," adidas spokesperson Jan Runau said in a statement, adding that caps with the right colors would now be produced but would not arrive until next week.
The Belgian team, which consists of just five athletes -- all of whom are taking part in skating disciplines -- have yet to comment. They must be very pleased at the prospect of their country doing very well in the first week's skiing events, especially as they don't have anyone featuring in them.
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ESPN Insider Blog
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posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2006
This is not a joke
Adidas is a German company. Let me repeat that: adidas is a German company. OK, now hear this. Reports out of Torino now confirm a rumor I heard this morning that 30 German skiers at the Winter Olympics are now wearing caps sporting Belgium's flag because adidas (again, German company) made hats with the colors of the German flag -- black, red and gold -- in the wrong order. Germany's flag is black, red and gold, but the hats have the colors ordered black, gold and red, which is Belgium's flag. "We regret this technical mistake and do apologize to all athletes," adidas spokesman Jan Runau said. Somehow, no excuse seems acceptable on this one. Caps featuring the German flags will be given to the Olympians next week.
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Evryone is focusing on d Iraqi flag. To me, the logo itself is embarrassing - it looks like a primary school child drew it. Anyone know who was responsible for it? And why we haven't changed it?
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Allyuh it have about 4 other threads with allyuh vex how dey T-shirt is. How dey stitch ain't good, how adidas play dey ass, how dey logo to big, dey color different and so on. Allyuh actually google dey Jersey to make allyuh point. I IMPRESS
Ah know is we official Jersey and allyuh have PRIDE....but oh gorm man
Allyuh merge all dey threads that concern dey Kit nah. PLEASEEEEEE :beermug:
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The placement of the TTFF logo is odd as well compare the pics below:
(http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/69481.JPG) (http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/74120.JPG) (http://store.worldcupblog.org/upload/tt_home_300.jpg).
Why is it so low compared to the others? It's level with the armpit of the jesrey.
The logo also looks oversized especially with 'Iraqi flag' behind it. From a design standpoint it's very poor.
wayz hoss dem adidas ppl rip we off
check de neck lines
the Hungary and Greece have a kinda slanted v_shaped neck
our own just plain circular
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It shitty but ah still buying it ah still whering it wid pride ah wish it was better , ah wish adidas did offer ah better deal but we get de shitty end ah de stick so we go live with it... do well mash up real team in de world cup sign ah puma deal fuh life.. look good play good distress real team.. nah worry forumite nah worry
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I saw a picture of a TTFF press conference the board with all the sponsors. Along with Adidas, Blue waters, KFC etc was the TTFF logo with the same Iraqi colours behind it. So I'm wondering if it is that Adidas made that decision to change the logo or were just using the logo provided by the TTFF.
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It shitty but ah still buying it ah still whering it wid pride ah wish it was better , ah wish adidas did offer ah better deal but we get de shitty end ah de stick so we go live with it... do well mash up real team in de world cup sign ah puma deal fuh life.. look good play good distress real team.. nah worry forumite nah worry
Look out for me in Germany with me old FINTA jersey!!! Adidas could keep dat ting!
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The placement of the TTFF logo is odd as well compare the pics below:
(http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/69481.JPG) (http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/74120.JPG) (http://store.worldcupblog.org/upload/tt_home_300.jpg).
Why is it so low compared to the others? It's level with the armpit of the jesrey.
The logo also looks oversized especially with 'Iraqi flag' behind it. From a design standpoint it's very poor.
wayz hoss dem adidas ppl rip we off
check de neck lines
the Hungary and Greece have a kinda slanted v_shaped neck
our own just plain circular
guatemala have de same jersey design as us also.
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http://www.worldsoccershop.com/shop-by-country-trinidad-and-tobago-trinidad-and-tobago-national-team-trinidad-and-tobago-2006-home-.html Atleast they have a pic of it
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andre posted this on another thread
same shirt without the badge.
I might get this and put my own crest on ! (without the Iraq flag )
http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=1262&pcount=&Product_Id=213085
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Given the type of grievance, it is still worth writing to Adidas about the jersey.
Here is site for email to their personel
http://www.adidas-group.com/en/local/meta/contact/default.asp
And here is my letter. Other can send the same letter
Re: Trinidad & Tobago Football Team Jersey
Dear Sir,
Adidas’s sponsorship of the Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) football team touched off celebration among many fans because of adidas's renowned reputation, and the fan’s affection for the brand name. We anxiously waited the arrival of the new football kit and were expecting an original and inspiring design of the team jersey. However to the shock and dismay of many, the T&T team jersey (that is now available for pre-order) features the flag of Iraq. We are pleading with the proper authorities of Adidas to please remove the Iraqi flag from the T&T team jersey. This is the first time that T&T will be participating in the World Cup; and all the players and fans would like to be wearing our national flag instead of that of some other country.
Of course, we do not know who is to blame for the grievous error of putting the Iraqi flag on our team jersey. Adidas should not simply say that the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) accepted the jersey and hence it is not adidas’s responsibility. The TTFF is a tiny organization on a small island, and it is in some ways isolated from world affairs. One would expect that Adidas being a global company with top designers would not make a mistake of that type.
Again, we are kindly requesting that Adidas remove the Iraqi flag from the jersey of our beloved Trinidad and Tobago.
Respectfully,
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In my opinion... plain and simple T & TFF and adidas ( the German company) need to addressed this and change the colors logo that look like Iraqi national color to Trinidad and Tobago colors in it's rightful order....PLAIN AND SIMPLE
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In my opinion... plain and simple T & TFF and adidas ( the German company) need to addressed this and change the colors logo that look like Iraqi national color to Trinidad and Tobago colors in it's rightful order....PLAIN AND SIMPLE
Its a worthwhile campaign to eventually change it, but its easy to see how it turned out the way it did. Look at it as a collectors item ;D - a one off. If the current design are to be recalled, then there would be no replicas for the world cup. We don't have that kind of influence, nor selling power. The future replicas without a doubt won't have the "iraqi" flag, background for the TTFF's crest.
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Dear Sir,
Adidas’s sponsorship of the Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) football team touched off celebration among many fans because of adidas's renowned reputation, and the fan’s affection for the brand name. We anxiously waited the arrival of the new football kit and were expecting an original and inspiring design of the team jersey. However to the shock and dismay of many, the T&T team jersey (that is now available for pre-order) features the flag of Iraq. We are pleading with the proper authorities of Adidas to please remove the Iraqi flag from the T&T team jersey. This is the first time that T&T will be participating in the World Cup; and all the players and fans would like to be wearing our national flag instead of that of some other country.
Of course, we do not know who is to blame for the grievous error of putting the Iraqi flag on our team jersey. Adidas should not simply say that the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) accepted the jersey and hence it is not adidas’s responsibility. The TTFF is a tiny organization on a small island, and it is in some ways isolated from world affairs. One would expect that Adidas being a global company with top designers would not make a mistake of that type.
Again, we are kindly requesting that Adidas remove the Iraqi flag from the jersey of our beloved Trinidad and Tobago.
Respectfully,
Nice one SBL...keep us posted if you hear anything
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andre posted this on another thread
same shirt without the badge.
I might get this and put my own crest on ! (without the Iraq flag )
http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=1262&pcount=&Product_Id=213085
So wait nuh.. based on this, the ttff badge on the iraqi flag adding $30US to the price of the jersey??
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So after reading 7 pages of the same thing .. I notice a post from another thread
Ato Boldon
Adidas sponsorship
Oakley sponsorship
etc
Now lemme know if I talking manure.
2 + 2 is 4, and 3 +3 is 6... Adidas sponsoring Ato...allyuh on kicks ???
Since ah doh mind people business, lemme know if thatz dey same Adidas nah.
If ah right, use ya resources folks.
I scatch ya back, you scatch my backside...same ting.
If ah wrong ah go delete meh post.
If anybody cuss me on this bright Thursday morning...I won't hesitate eh. >:(
Cheers :beermug:
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I sent them an email
"Dear sir/madam
I am enquiring about the Adidas Trinidad & Tobago Football shirt. Can you please tell me how it has come to pass that the crest has as a background the Iraq flag ? The T&T flag is diagonal stripes not horizontal and on this auspicious event such as the world cup I would like my correct national flag displayed. Can you please tell me how this design was selected ? Was it supplied by the TTFF ?
I believe it is important to Adidas as well to get the correct flag displayed as you do not sponsor Iraq !
I look forward to your reply."
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looks like $30 for a badge, I serious I buying the Libero shirt and putting my own crest on.
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??? de TnT/IRAQ jersey was removed, so should we all guess come Saturday we seein a new jersey?
;D
FYI, in Mississauga at Heartland Shopping Centre, the adidas outlet has quite a number of samples of WC2006 items for sale. Most of the items are jerseys and they are in medium sizes.
ADIDAS / JOGGERS OUTLET
Thanks to a thoughtful visitor to our site we were made aware of this outlet. Adidas and Joggers have teamed up to bring you this outlet store which contains 2 outlet stores in one location. The left side of this outlet is dedicated to Adidas clothing and footwear and the right side is the Joggers outlet. Products consist of current, discontinued and ends of season merchandise. You'll find athletic footwear, accessories, gym wear, outerwear, casual clothing and more. Brand names include, Adidas, Saucony, Reebok, Brooks, and much more.
Address: 5935 Mavis Road, Heartland Town Centre, Mississauga,
Ontario, L5R 3T7
(Mavis Road & Brittania)
Phone: (905) 568-9506
Open: Mon. to Fri. 9:30 - 9; Sat. 9:30 - 6; Sun. 11 - 5
Payment Method: Visa, MC, AMEX, Direct Payment, Cash.
View Map: 5935 Mavis Rd, Mississauga ON
Respect
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I went to the store this week no Trinidad stuff and I only saw Adidas stuff in the store. I think since there is no longer any joggers stores that I know of in the GTA
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I sent them an email
"Dear sir/madam
I am enquiring about the Adidas Trinidad & Tobago Football shirt. Can you please tell me how it has come to pass that the crest has as a background the Iraq flag ? The T&T flag is diagonal stripes not horizontal and on this auspicious event such as the world cup I would like my correct national flag displayed. Can you please tell me how this design was selected ? Was it supplied by the TTFF ?
I believe it is important to Adidas as well to get the correct flag displayed as you do not sponsor Iraq !
I look forward to your reply."
We don't want no damn flag behind no damn crest.... if yuh want ah flag, put it on de shoulder.... crest on shirt.... no background... thank you
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but writing dont hurt fren ! you sound like people who happy that pavements in Trinidad getting higher and higher to match the roads, soon man going to walk downstairs to get in their garden
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So after reading 7 pages of the same thing .. I notice a post from another thread
Ato Boldon
Adidas sponsorship
Oakley sponsorship
etc
Now lemme know if I talking manure.
2 + 2 is 4, and 3 +3 is 6... Adidas sponsoring Ato...allyuh on kicks ???
Since ah doh mind people business, lemme know if thatz dey same Adidas nah.
If ah right, use ya resources folks.
I scatch ya back, you scatch my backside...same ting.
If ah wrong ah go delete meh post.
If anybody cuss me on this bright Thursday morning...I won't hesitate eh. >:(
Cheers :beermug:
It is the same company so you might be on to something. Also with Ato's Senator's status this might add some weight to the request for change.
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so should we have a compettion to design our own badge ?
Ha ha we could print it and put it on the libero shirts
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So doc who is doing the sponsoring T&TFF or adidas, they sponsoring the Trinidad and Tobago world cup team not the other way around.....so T&TFF should do something about it.... why they have to take that shit give it back what the problem...world cup starting in June not next month...way in June
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there goes my plans for wearing my jersey in the middle east
men go think i from iraq and start meh
yeah yuh doh want to do that :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: