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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Trini on November 17, 2006, 02:38:21 PM

Title: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Trini on November 17, 2006, 02:38:21 PM
I am playing devil's advocate here....

What has Scottie tangibly contributed to the senior men's team in the last few years?

He usually comes on as a sub on the left wing...but never really scoring.

Is he an out and out striker or attacking winger?

I find he like Mervin Dillon, big, strong and full of raw talent, energy and power, but does not live up to his potential.

Scottie if u reading this, nothing personal, but we all know u have so so much more to offer man.

On the other side of the coin, Colin Samuel is starting to show signs of waking up...
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: palos on November 17, 2006, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Trini on November 17, 2006, 02:38:21 PM
On the other side of the coin, Colin Samuel is starting to show signs of waking up...

Because he score or because of his overall play?
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: kounty on November 17, 2006, 03:01:02 PM
well scottie unlucky - he is the king of the scottish 2nd division...but with that kind of competition you think he will be given the work out he needs to compete at the highest level?  Is like training for a body building contest lifting only a copybook right thru - possible...but unlikely. 
big up scottie all the same and I know is not his fault, but hopefully he start making some upward moves soon.

well he say he like scotland, so he might be happy with he life - living have a job, etc, and not interested in making himself into a super striker.  so I in no position to talk.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: AB.Trini on November 17, 2006, 03:07:39 PM
Dig up the  NEW TNT attack: big strong and fast:


C.Glen/ J.Scotland/C.Samuel/K.Jones


Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: g on November 17, 2006, 03:09:12 PM
I just want to see some potential turning into productivity. In the modern game you only have but so long to start to deliver.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: AlbertaTrini on November 17, 2006, 03:07:39 PM
Dig up the  NEW TNT attack: big strong and fast:

C.Glen/ J.Scotland/C.Samuel/K.Jones
Between them they have 120 caps and 24 goals, but it skewed because Glen score 11 of dem. Avg age is 25.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: AB.Trini on November 17, 2006, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: AlbertaTrini on November 17, 2006, 03:07:39 PM
Dig up the  NEW TNT attack: big strong and fast:

C.Glen/ J.Scotland/C.Samuel/K.Jones
Between them they have 120 caps and 24 goals, but it skewed because Glen score 11 of dem. Avg age is 25.

Add Hector to the mix and Birchall and Carlos in the midfield.

What are the chances of seeing this groupings at the Digicel Cup?
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Peong on November 17, 2006, 03:42:37 PM
Scotland need to leave Scotland and go England.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: g on November 17, 2006, 03:46:50 PM
I eh go like i wish Scotland could come back for d digicel cup. I think he so important going forward in for the next WC campaign, just the ability to get some more national goals under his belt to give him some more confidence would reap rewards long term.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Mr Mc on November 17, 2006, 03:53:27 PM
Forget about Jason Scotland!!!, why because our team so young and so deep that we could afford to disregard players???
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: g on November 17, 2006, 04:26:44 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2

It so wide open for all ah dem players and even other strikers in the PFL who could knock on the door, any kinda scoring run could secure a permanent striking berth.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: DeSoWa on November 17, 2006, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2

Tallman, would it be hard if I ask for minutes played also..since # of caps might be kinda misleading especially if ah man come on in the 80th minute of ah game..cyah really expect him to score much in 10-15 mins of playing time. Respect.

Big up!
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: DeSoWa on November 17, 2006, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2

Tallman, would it be hard if I ask for minutes played also..since # of caps might be kinda misleading especially if ah man come on in the 80th minute of ah game..cyah really expect him to score much in 10-15 mins of playing time. Respect.

Big up!

Ah cyar give yuh de mins because dey not always available. Ah could give yuh starts vs subs

NameAgeCapsGoalsApps
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
25(12)
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
15(14)
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
15(7)
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
19(14)
Hector Sam
28
20
2
9(11)
Scott Sealy
25
18
2
7(11)
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: supporter on November 17, 2006, 05:07:13 PM
Jason Scotland is amongst the leaders in goals in the Scottish First Division!

We should drop him because he couldnt fit into our system with our coaches? Our coaches, apart from the current and previous one, have been asses. Scotland scores goals, hes a team player. There should always be room for him.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 17, 2006, 05:11:20 PM
I hope the under 23's and under 20's  striker step up to the plate
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Lower St. John on November 17, 2006, 05:12:37 PM
Forget about caps, forget about minutes played, it really simple yuh know fellas, if yuh doh shoot at goal yuh aint going to score.  When ever I watch our games, I most time have a pad, taking notes on shots at goal.  These guys (individually) most times average less than three shots at goal in an entire game.  If yuh doubting meh, go watch any of the games.  We most times try to walk the ball into the area for a shot.  

Most times the play breaks down prior to a shot on goal.  We all criticize Stern at some time or the other because of the number of opportunities he throw away but it is because he makes an attempt on goal.  The other forwards are afraid of pulling the trigger.

Blessings
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: fishs on November 17, 2006, 05:14:59 PM
Why Jason?
Get rid of the Wimp.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: trinbago on November 17, 2006, 06:54:28 PM
Quote from: Lower St. John on November 17, 2006, 05:12:37 PM
 
 We all criticize Stern at some time or the other because of the number of opportunities he throw away but it is because he makes an attempt on goal.  The other forwards are afraid of pulling the trigger.

Blessings
:beermug:
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: weary1969 on November 17, 2006, 07:49:36 PM
Well if Jack have his way everybody not only Scotland will be rid of.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: kingman on November 17, 2006, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2




Thanks Tallman for this information. It looks like with the exception of Glen, Trinidad do not have any real goal scorers. What is Jones and them real purpose on this team? 19 starts and 2 goals? Say what you want about Stern, he gets the job done.

Kingman
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: supporter on November 17, 2006, 09:28:13 PM
Quote from: kingman on November 17, 2006, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2




Thanks Tallman for this information. It looks like with the exception of Glen, Trinidad do not have any real goal scorers. What is Jones and them real purpose on this team? 19 starts and 2 goals? Say what you want about Stern, he gets the job done.

Kingman

 ??? ??? ??? Did you forget that theyve been playing for trinidad and tobago and not brazil? Goal scoring has not been our thing for the past 15 years. And thats not on the scorers. So remember that when looking at those numbers.
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 17, 2006, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: kingman on November 17, 2006, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2




Thanks Tallman for this information. It looks like with the exception of Glen, Trinidad do not have any real goal scorers. What is Jones and them real purpose on this team? 19 starts and 2 goals? Say what you want about Stern, he gets the job done.

Kingman

jones was not a striker all the time you know
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: kounty on November 17, 2006, 09:50:31 PM
supporter pulin ah arrow on we right??  ???
Title: Re: Do u all think we should forget about Jason Scotland?
Post by: kingman on November 17, 2006, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: supporter on November 17, 2006, 09:28:13 PM
Quote from: kingman on November 17, 2006, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Tallman on November 17, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The unsettling thing is that we do not have any prolific strikers other than Stern; Cornell is the closest. What is also telling is dat Birchall (a defensive midfielder) has almost as many goals (4) as Scotland and Samuel and has more than Jones, Sam and Sealy.

NameAgeCapsGoals
Cornell Glen
25
37
11
Jason Scotland
27
29
5
Collin Samuel
25
22
5
Kenwyne Jones
22
33
2
Hector Sam
28
20
2
Scott Sealy
25
18
2




Thanks Tallman for this information. It looks like with the exception of Glen, Trinidad do not have any real goal scorers. What is Jones and them real purpose on this team? 19 starts and 2 goals? Say what you want about Stern, he gets the job done.

Kingman

 ??? ??? ??? Did you forget that theyve been playing for trinidad and tobago and not brazil? Goal scoring has not been our thing for the past 15 years. And thats not on the scorers. So remember that when looking at those numbers.

What nonsense you coming with about Brazil and Trinidad and Tobago? Seriously? A goal scorer is a goal scorer.... Someone who could poison the old onion bag by any means necessary. The kind of teams that we play, these guys stats should be wayyy higher. Anyways, whatever.......

Triniman, I know Jones is not no striker. Exactly my point! I think (or at least hope) he would make a better contribution as a defensive mid or center back. Trinidad have him as a striker to win head balls and hold the ball but have other guys that known for finding the back on the net.

Kingman
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