my grandmother ....lawd bless her soul....told me that no matter how many letters I get behind my name..if I allowed education to make me become a jack ass...then the only thing I become is an educated jack ass....I hope that was simple enough to read.
Mine didn't have to tell me.
And yet should have.
Me eh trying to clown nobody but when big man come with dat kinda nonsense yuh does have to call dem out..
It eh no clowning scene, buh wha is de nonsense that you so feel you addressed?
Best I can figure, references to educated jackassness are rooted somewhere in a question as to one's humility. There may be more to it than that buh de expertise on that is not mine ... it appears to MEP's. NOW ... ah doh hadda geh into any ah dis, buh ah doing so because ah fine it kinda instructive on a number of levels. So as applied to me dahis kinda ah curiosity. Me eh know: in my lil cut ... broddas who I deal wid on a daily know what I stand for, buh most (well into 90%) if asked couldn't tell yuh NUTTEN about whether I have letters behind my name OR preceding it. Simple ting: cause dahis not how I move. Dahis NOT how I define myself or how I permit or encourage others to define me. Never has been, never will be. I grow up rank & file. I live rank & file and, on the basis of accumulated evidence, I will die advocating for de rank and file. Not as a matter of reflex, but as a matter of conscience where good conscience applies.
Moving along ... ah taking de opportunity to swing through de entire neighborhood like any good neighborhood watch ... some ah allyuh clearly ent belong in dis neighborhood ... So keep yuh skittles in yuh pocket and de popcorn handy!!!
Ah hear men on here talk bout internet badjohn. Ah hear men on here talking bout what I suppose equates to cyber alter egos ... such that several posters appear to be experts on sexual "preference". Since ah on here ah read a few announcements of invitations to duel in one capacity or another off forum in de real world. Ah gather (based on assertions presented) some men is lion behind dey keyboard but lamb outta road. Me eh know: Ah can only attest whais de seen fuh asylumseeker. Ah lacking priorities in dem areas ... BUT, without fear or favour, I call things francomeh as I see them ... who vex vex, who lorse lorse, and who seeking to avoid confrontation ... be reminded: doh start none, won't be none.
Dahis how I does move IN PERSON AND BEHIND MEH KEYBOARD!!!. Same speed, minimal reverb. And ... arguably, I'm no where as pleasant or diplomatic in person as I have been on the forum.
The record reflects that since I've been on here I have never used profanity to address anyone ( ... at least not yet???) Dahis me. We interacting on a forum ... de moderators democratic no arse ... free speech is de order of the day. Man gehhin cuss is commonplace, buh every poster hadda decide and come to terms wid his or her own barometer of civility. At the end of the day, every man is a simple man.
Because these are observational comments rather than judgments, ah hadda say dis too: in some ways de chief cussbuds are actually EXCELLENT arbiters of a conscience on de forum ... because when it might not be popular to do it, dey go leh yuh know yuh run afoul of protocol or matters that matter. Iz a give & take. Of course at times they have a verbal reach that would invite some to call dey mammy. Buh say wha ... on the road we are not immune to such assaults, and if the forum is a virtual microcosm of the real world ... ent it is what is is.
Anyway, dis ain't a SUPAesque tour de force ... iz merely tone-setting or ambient lighting or background music ... so lehwe move on.
++++On this thread a poster remarked about the consistency of my posts. Kudos to him. Another observed that he thought comments were made to "impress and deride" ... Not so much. I've been posting under the same personal code from DAY ONE. I think by now attentive forumites understand my style and vibe. The furore germinated ("not ingeminate"
) from the post I made on this thread is to marvel at ... Buh ah loving it because although it was created by the fingers of intended mischief, I think it set the platform to open up a few cans that needed opening ... some of which I addressed adequately in my initial response to my friend the mischief-maker
In contribution to the furore, ah normally sober-minded MEP comes out de gate with the language quoted above. Ah doh mind de charge. It is de vacant conclusion that consumes my attention. HOW HE REACH DEY AND ON WHAT SENTIENT BASIS ME EH KNOW!!! [Pecan, dahis wuk fuh you dey
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MEP whose contributions on this very forum have included the words "quintessential", "nepotism", "acrimony", "supercilious", "hegemony", "angst" and "
egregious" etc... jumps out the gate to malign a post gifted with a phrase bearing the following "complex" words
typical
congressional
tolerance
polarized
polity
similar
egregiousmanifest
presidential
Convoluted? Yes. Impenetrable? No.
Now ... dahis all right even at that ... had it stopped there! Where it becomes questionable is where the same poster decides to rush back through de same gate with de unsupported and unsupportable "when big man ... nonsense" static. Although I haven't received a precise definition or understanding of what constitutes "nonsense", iz clear to me that the poster took offense ... at what iz another thing. Buh ah go wuk wid what is available.
++++Yuh want to talk about education? Well, lehme educate you about asylumseeker.
My maternal great-grandmother was the first black person (read: man or woman) in her community to own the land on which she lived. Behind the home, she used the acreage to plant sugarcane for sale to the plantation. I grew up witnessing her harvest the cane and saw the trucks come to load the yield. She also engaged in pastoral farming. I used to go with her to stake and unstake the livestock ... I was even known to bring them "home". My great-grandmother was a woman who din skin teet. She walked with a straight back, kicked back a nightcap of gin from time to time, and handled her affairs with poise, presence and pride. Men of her generation dealt with her as an equal.
My maternal grandmother (presently 85)
is a humble woman who built on the platform my great-grandmother set. Neither woman possessed an excess of formal education because of the era into which she was born, but both were literate, mentally spry, extraordinarily imbued with common sense and possessed of high expectations. Growing up in a multi-generational household as the 4th generation when my father was reading for his degree ... I absorbed all the lessons available to me through observation, conversation, practice, error ... Go figure: in my post in response I stated " mine didn't have to tell me." Ah hope the fog and mist are clearing as to why ... I need render no comment with respect to the "And yet should have" ... Bakes appears to have silenced that irritant.
++++My parents came through these humble households. I knew all of my grandparents and had the blessing/fortune of knowing 3 of my great-grandparents. I had one foot planted in the alleged middle-class through the thinnest of privilege and via my parents' educations rather than through coin. Because of social interactions ... to include where I went to school ... I managed to figure out a few things about how society was and is ordered. These interactions made up my REAL education. My REAL education was grounding with people in unfashionable parts of the country that were in some sectors habitually the butt of jokes. My REAL education was reasoning wid all kind of broddas and sisters about de various struggles dey was living. (ah love reading JC when allyuh rile him ... because he does peak with some historical remonstrations (is that word permissible?)
++++I see this on FB and thought it was funny................so where yuh from?
I lived in de Bush. Depending on the day, my life triangulated around there, Fish and Drugs, and de now famous Industrial Dystopia. My people from ??-? ... Ah not asking a question eh ... ah telling allyuh dahis where dey from. Make it out on de map. ??-? iz located east of Papa Bois. 10° 49' 60N, 60° 57' 0W. So yeah, ??-?.
Lehwe continue ...
For an influential yet minor portion I lived west of MORDOR buh north of "Movietowne, Syrians and Overpriced Shit" (iz there I encountered de half-chinee that occasionally occupies TT's attention). From that location ah had reasonable access to Guns and Traffic. Nevertheless ... regardless of where I lived, my father made it a point to visit ??-? frequently ... because dahis de kind ah man he is ... proud of where he's from. He ensured - through practice - that that would not be lost on his offspring.
We used to get in de car and drive from Bush to ??-? ... leave earlier than ah outside man chooking a married woman, take forever to get there, and drive back the same night because he had professional obligations involving Tom, Dick, Harry and Joe Public. There was NO room in this equation to become desensitized in the manner that presumably some speculative "educated jackass" would become desensitized... however, such a paradoxical transformation is arrived at.
De temerity of some ppl (PECAN!!!! ... dictionary!!!) to venture into abstract conclusion informed by some perception that derision and making an impression are the order of the day. Clearly, it is here that the reach into educated jackassdom occurred. Above I referred to instances in which I could make authoritative contributions but opt not to ... well, here we have an instance in which I made an authoritative contribution in responding to the topic that was at hand. The direction it has taken is entertaining.
++++I waited a lil bit to let this thread evolve naturally before responding to this degree. Buh, kudos to Bakes for handling the issue of the PM because apparently a couple ah allyuh have inconveniently lost your damn minds. His treatment of the matter was ON POINT:
It's baffling to me how men only contributions to the thread is to come and bitch about ah man vocabulary. I largely agree with the substance (though not the 'style') of MEP's post... sometimes lawd knows I does want to break out mih red pencil. Some of the personal attacks, on something that don't even concern them... just kinda eye-opening fuh me. Maybe Asylumseeker onto something with he 'toting feelings' talk.
Noted, but as you may tell it was purposely done as a direct pronouncement would have led to confrontation. I don't have anything against truetrini as I think he is someone we can learn from. However, I think the tenor and tone of his statement was to impress and deride. If indeed it were meant for you then I'm sure a pm would have sufficed.
I think yuh mean Asylumseeker... and I don't think he said his post was "meant" for me as much as in addressing me primarily he used language that he knew I would be conversant with. Put another way, if I know you's a structural engineer and directing something to you specifically, but contributing in an arena where others are active, there is nothing wrong with me using an engineer's vocabulary to communicate my message to you. If others happen to catch on and want to respond then they welcome, but I mainly want to make my point to you. I don't think there's anything in this imaginary internet protocol we citing that says a pm is necessary. But that's just my take.
People amusing, oui. Yuh ever go a Twelve Tribes dance? Yuh ever ... look eh! Oy sah. De places I have immersed myself in ... ah not too sure who amongst us would or could survive in fuh even an hour.
Which brings me to this ...
Ah man ask about my ability to "reason" wid de fairer sex ... so lehme leave no stone unturned. Although I have discriminating tastes, I have never discriminated in who I choose to deal wid on the basis of where dey living or if dey have ah alphabet soup behind dey name ... yuh know what de gauge is? How de umman carries herself and how she flexes her natural mind and whether she is inclined to expand its boundaries via a natural curiosity ... pretty face alone doh hold man again, right? Buh prepping around in some Ballys wid a rag in meh back pocket and a Kangol tilted just rightly reaps amazing results
Wha allyuh really feel it is at all? Yuh ever board a ting in a country fete? Goddesses from all rungs on the socio-economic ladder, yes. Men gehhin tie up wid de difference between de written word and the spoken word. Since the written word is the operational language on de forum this is an entirely different flex.
My name is asylumseeker and I endorse this message.
At de end of the day, here's de key question. Do you know who you are and where you stand in the struggle? I know.