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Sports => What about Track & Field => Olympic Discussion => Topic started by: Socapro on July 25, 2012, 08:00:55 PM
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This thread is all about maximising our realy team’s chances of medalling and also keeping an eye on our main competition in the relays so we are not caught by surprise.
Here is some news on what the USA 4x100m squad has been aiming at regards their relay preparations.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20120724/sports/sports4.html
USA targets JA's 4x100m world record
Published: Tuesday | July 24, 2012
André Lowe, Senior Staff Reporter
BIRMINGHAM, England:
American 4x100m lead-off runner, Trell Kimmons, believes his team is ready to challenge Jamaica's recent dominance of the event and is certain that they have the ability within their ranks to become the first team that runs under 37 seconds.
The United States (US) have been the dominant force in international sprint relays, winning 15 of the 22 men's 4x100m finals contested at the Olympic Games, while Jamaica's only gold medal came four years ago in Beijing.
However, after lowering the world record to 37.10 in Beijing with a team of Nesta Carter, Michael Frater, Usain Bolt and Asafa Powell, the Jamaican's went on to win a year later at the 2009 IAAF World Championships in Athletics in Berlin, before smashing their own record at last year's World Championships in Daegu, South Korea, with a 37.04 clocking.
That team, which comprised all members of the 2008 team except Asafa Powell, who was replaced by Yohan Blake, enter the Olympic Games as huge favourites for the gold medal and in fact a new world record.
Kimmons, however, thinks differently and believes it's the Americans who will cross the line first in London in sub-37 seconds.
"37.04 is definitely beatable, I think we (USA) can go as fast as 36.9," Kimmons told The Gleaner yesterday from his team's training base at Alexander University.
The Americans have done themselves no favour in recent times.
Zone violation
Darvis Patton collided with British athlete Aikines-Aryeetey in the final in Daegu and was unable to get the baton to anchorman Walter Dix and in 2008 he could not get the stick to Tyson Gay at the Beijing Olympics. An exchange zone violation at the 2009 Berlin World Champion-ships makes it four years and three major championships since the Americans last completed a men's 4x100m final.
"We have been working really hard, there is still quite a few work to be done with the guys on the relay and once we sort that out I think we can take a shot at that world record," said Kimmons.
"We just need to communicate some more. Of course, some stuff happened in the past, but we have to make it right when it matters," Kimmons added.
"Things are going real good, everything is good and everyone is in good shape. I am the driver for the relay team and as the lead-off man, your team has to be confident in your start and your composure. The team believes in me and I'm ready to go and give the team the best possible start in London," said Kimmons.
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http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,163745.html
TT sprinters focus on relays
Monday, July 23 2012
TRINIDAD and Tobago sprinters focussed on baton passing yesterday, particularly the men and women 4x100-metres relay teams, during their pre- Olympic camp at the Wales Track and Field Stadium.
Dexter Voisin, manager of the TT athletic team for the London Olympic Games, made this disclosure during a brief interview yesterday from the team’s base at the Vale Resort in Hensol, Wales.
“Kelly Ann (Baptiste), Richard (Thompson) and (Keston) Bledman joined the camp,” said Voisin. “Both relay teams, the 4x100m women and men, worked (yesterday) afternoon and did their first session of baton passing.”
The Stadium is located 15 minutes away from the Vale Resort.
Asked if the athletes, particularly Baptiste and Bledman, were suffering with jet lag after arriving on the camp yesterday morning, Voisin stressed, “they weren’t jet-lagged.
Everybody came just within an hour (on their) flight.
“Kelly Ann and Bledman came from Amsterdam (in Netherlands) which is just an hour (from Wales). So there was no jet lag.
Voisin continued, “the session went well and, as the manager of the team, (I’ll say) the coaches were pleased with the session (yesterday) afternoon.”
Concerning today’s plans, Voisin said, “we leave the camp on Wednesday so we have two days down here at the Wales training camp.
“(Today) they go back to their individual programmes and on Tuesday we have baton passing practice again,” he ended.
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http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Serrette_expects_relay_success-163262916.html
Serrette expects relay success
By Kwame Laurence kwame.laurence@trinidadexpress.com
Story Created: Jul 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM ECT
National Association of Athletics Administrations (NAAA) president, Ephraim Serrette is anticipating relay success at the July 27-August 12 Olympic Games, in London, England.
Trinidad and Tobago will field teams in the men's 4x100 metres, women's 4x100m and men's 4x400m events.
Serrette told the Express he does not like making predictions, but is confident all three relay teams will do well. The former sprinter is particularly excited about T&T's 4x4 prospects.
"The men's 4x4, from my knowledge, I think they have a better chance than the other relays."
At last month's National Championships, Renny Quow, Lalonde Gordon, Jarrin Solomon and Deon Lendore combined for a new national record, the T&T quartet stopping the clock at three minutes, 00.45 seconds. Gordon and Solomon subsequently improved their personal best clockings in the individual 400m. Gordon produced a 45.02 seconds run in Nebraska, USA, while Solomon clocked 45.31 in Bottrop, Germany.
"With the recent performances of the quarter-milers, we should do well."
Serrette said Keston Bledman's injury is not serious, and that he expects the national sprint champion to be a serious contender for a men's 100m medal at the London Games. The NAAA president is also anticipating success for Kelly-Ann Baptiste in the women's 100m.
Serrette said javelin thrower Keshorn Walcott's participation at the Games is a significant development for T&T track and field. Last week, in Barcelona, Spain, Walcott captured the world junior title.
"As a junior athlete, making the final 12 at the Olympics would be a major achievement. It would open doors for other athletes in an event we're not traditionally strong in. It's not just about sprinting. We've been having the Multi-event Championships to expose athletes to all the events."
T&T will be represented by 30 athletes at the London Games, including 25 in track and field. Serrette said this is due in part to the development work being done by the NAAA.
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Aviator posted this in the T&T Realitic Finals and Medal Chances thread....
BUMP AGAIN!!!....LOL
I want to bring back attention to our male 4x1 team. They represent the country's best and most likely chance of bringing back a medal in T&F. Out of all the teams/individuals entered, they are the only ones that do not have more that 2 teams/individuals ranked ahead of them.
Anyways with all that said, I think we should shake up the apple cart a little. I know Richard has been anchoring for the past few years, but until further notice, Bledman has clearly displaced him as #1 trini. Bledman has lead off a few times, but has never been able to make any real dent in any of our major opponents(USA, JAM) on that first leg and if I recall correctly has given up distance. Curve running is not his thing and its about time those in charge of the relay recognize that. Richard IMO is the best starter/turn runner that we have and I believe he should lead off. Nesta Carter and Trell Kimmons will not do to RT what they did to Bledman last year. However Bledman should comfortably match anything RT has ever done on anchor leg.
So I propose: Richard-Burns-Callendar-Bledman. Let Sorrillio pop off in the heat, so he will get a medal
With clean hand-offs that squad is definitely capable of going sub-37.50, which put us in silver medal territory.
Discuss!!
And I posted the related reply below....
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You don't think it is a little late to do that. Or maybe that idea maybe the secret weapon thay will unleash to the WORLD. ;D
Nah not to late. Any comprehensive relay training session involves both giving and receiving the baton. No to mention 3/4 of the final four re only running the 100m, so the will have a good 4-5 days to practice. In addition changing the 1st or last leg is not too complicated, because it only involves one exchange. So it should not be too hard for Bledos and RIP to switch roles.
Good idea!
I think our 4x100m relay team should do practice runs with Bledman leading off and RT anchoring and then alternative practice runs with RT leading off and Bledman anchoring and we can work out which version persistently gives our team the quicker relay times with each runner also being timed for their individual legs. Target time being 37.50 or less once we execute smooth clean baton changes.
PS:
It will also be a good exercise to help sharpen up our women 4x100m relay team if they run against our men's 4x100m relay team with a 5 second gap lead off!!
For the women to beat the men they would probably have to run a sub 42s time and for the men to beat the women they would probably have to run sub 37.50 or less!
Btw Sorrillo did a decent job on first leg at the recent Grand Prix in London with a 0.126 recation time, see video. Very nice run by the guys and clean exchanges with RT saying afterwards that our exchanges can be improved.
Trinidad & Tobago wins Men's 4x100m Relay - LondonSDL2012
http://www.youtube.com/v/6FltrEu1juU
Results:
1 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO TRI 38.23 0.126 (Sorrillo->Burns->Callender->Thompson)
2 NETHERLANDS NED 38.70 0.146
3 POLAND POL 38.78 0.152
4 GREAT BRITAIN & NI A GBR 38.80 0.153
5 MVP TRACK CLUB JAM 38.82 0.156
6 GREAT BRITAIN & NI B GBR 38.94 0.173
7 FRANCE (with LeMaitre) FRA 38.95 0.217
8 ST KITTS AND NEVIS SKN 39.19 0.171
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Please continue the Relay discussions in regards to our team and their competitors in this thread thanks!!
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I think that's a very good idea in terms of the formation, switch them around in practice and see how it goes and as Aviator rightly pointed out Richard is our best curve/starter followed by Rondel. SO Rondel in the prelim and Richard in the final. However I must point out that Keston is our best starter out of the blocks in the open 100 but his slight weakness on the curve means he gives up ground against the Jamaicans/Americans but we'll see.
I like that idea of our women running against our men that would be great practice.
Here is a vid of our 4x100 relay teams in practice in Cardiff:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ojRVBjUO6Pk
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Bumping this one to the top! I'm really hoping our teams can come together get some great exchanges and medal! The men have shown that they are the third best team after Jamaica and the USA and once they get the baton passing right they can be a real threat for silver all they have to do is get it right on the day which I believe they can do.
The women are a nerve wrecker for me- they hold vast potential and going on raw speed are the 3rd fastest team on paper (10.86, 11.10, 11.19, 11.21) but somehow the Ukraine and Germany are an ever present threat. Their passing skills are superior to ours but if we can get it right they stand no chance... The thing is where the other teams lack speed they make up for in swift passing. Hence they get a lot of practice together and work on perfecting passing.
Judging by the vid although they said they haven't been told the order it seems like a potential line up may be KS->SH->MLA->KAB. It could change but in that format we'll be competing for bronze. If Semoy is running against Felix/SAFP she can't keep up with them but should be able to hold off the Ukraine and KAB won't give up ground against the Ukraine like MLA did last year.... KS->KAB->MLA->SH may have a better time with a bronze medal- SH can hold off the Ukraine girl- MLA has had experience running the curve this year and has a new pb in the 200 which says she can do a decent job. Apparently VCB will be running the curve and I know she will blow everyone away and Jeneba Tarmoh looks strong on 3rd also(potential mess up for US). So it's up to MLA to keep us competitive on that 3rd leg. All this of course if we make the final.
Target time: 42.20(or whatever it takes to get that medal even if we have to go sub 42)
Analysis Over
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Bumping this one to the top! I'm really hoping our teams can come together get some great exchanges and medal! The men have shown that they are the third best team after Jamaica and the USA and once they get the baton passing right they can be a real threat for silver all they have to do is get it right on the day which I believe they can do.
The women are a nerve wrecker for me- they hold vast potential and going on raw speed are the 3rd fastest team on paper (10.86, 11.10, 11.19, 11.21) but somehow the Ukraine and Germany are an ever present threat. Their passing skills are superior to ours but if we can get it right they stand no chance... The thing is where the other teams lack speed they make up for in swift passing. Hence they get a lot of practice together and work on perfecting passing.
Judging by the vid although they said they haven't been told the order it seems like a potential line up may be KS->SH->MLA->KAB. It could change but in that format we'll be competing for bronze. If Semoy is running against Felix/SAFP she can't keep up with them but should be able to hold off the Ukraine and KAB won't give up ground against the Ukraine like MLA did last year.... KS->KAB->MLA->SH may have a better time with a bronze medal- SH can hold off the Ukraine girl- MLA has had experience running the curve this year and has a new pb in the 200 which says she can do a decent job. Apparently VCB will be running the curve and I know she will blow everyone away and Jeneba Tarmoh looks strong on 3rd also(potential mess up for US). So it's up to MLA to keep us competitive on that 3rd leg. All this of course if we make the final.
Target time: 42.20(or whatever it takes to get that medal even if we have to go sub 42)
Analysis Over
Good analysis! :beermug:
Provided both our 4x100m relay teams make it to the final God willing, our men should be aiming to run sub 37 in the final and our women should be aiming to go sub 42 with is quite possible with the right line-up and clean efficient baton passing!
With those times we should be guaranteed medals, it will be just a matter of which colour!
Btw many thanks for posting the video of our 4x100 relay teams in practice at Cardiff Camp.
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We have a fifth man in Machel Cedenio with a PR of 46.02, who would have run the semis to rest one of the other guys (Quow, Lendore or Lalonde), but as it stands the remaining 4 will have to run their liver string out to make the final, and if in the final, to medal. Their PBs all from this year are Gordon (44.52), Lendore (45.13), Solomon (45.31), and Cedenio (46.02).
In ONE race it is plausible for Cedenio to lead off in 46 or 45 high, Lendore and Solomon to split mid to high 44s, and Gordon to anchor in 44 flat or 43 high. On paper with clean exchanges, that can give us a 2:58 high to 2:59.
To do that twice is now a very tall order without Quow, and even a 2:59 is not assured a medal, even with a weakened US team (no Merritt).
There's the Bahamas sure to come out for redemption after not medalling with 3/2 guys in the semis/final, the US, The Belgians with the Borlee twins, Dominican Republic with Santos and Sanchez, UK, Russia, Poland, Kenya, and even Cuba and Venezuela - all capable of running right at 3:00 or under.
Maybe lightning will try twice for us and Lendore, Solomon or Cedenio would run above their form, as Gordon did.
In the 4x400m relay if you want to create you best possible chance of medalling then you need to establish a lead over your opponents from early in the race which means you need at least one of your two fastest runners on the opening two legs.
You then hope that the other two runners on legs 3 and 4 can run their skins off (PB's) to hold on to the lead you have established on your opponents. So we need Lalonde on either leg one or leg two and I would definitely put Jehue on the squad.
This was the order of the 4x400m relay squad when we set a new national record in June this year:-
Renny Quow >> Lalonde Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore.
I would suggest keeping a similar order as near as we possibly can with the healthy 400m runners we currently have!
So here are some suggested relay orders for us to make the final and possibly medal.
4x400m relay Heats:
Lalonde Gordon >> Machel Cedino >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
4x400m relay Final:
Lalonde Gordon >> Jehue Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
Alternatively if Machel Cedino really impresses and can hold his own with the seniors in the heats then we use him again instead of Jehue in the final.
Btw fellas, I've already created a special thread for the relays called London Olympics Men and Women's 4x100m and 4x400m Relay Thread! at this link: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=57606.0 so please post your ideas for our relay squads performing at their best in that thread.
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Ok, so this is my vote for the 100m finals, not the 1st round:
KB -> MB -> EC -> RT
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Ok, so this is my vote for the 100m finals, not the 1st round:
KB -> MB -> EC -> RT
Hopefully Bledman will be back to his best come the 4x100m relays as I don't think he was at his best during the 100m heats and semis that took place last week.
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Ok, so this is my vote for the 100m finals, not the 1st round:
KB -> MB -> EC -> RT
What about RS? I know Socapro feel he's run himself out this Olympics....it maybe a gamble?
Don't be surprised with clean exchanges, the damage that US trio of Gay, Bailey and Gatlin can do....who is their fourth?
WHo is Jamaica's final four?
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Bumping this one to the top! I'm really hoping our teams can come together get some great exchanges and medal! The men have shown that they are the third best team after Jamaica and the USA and once they get the baton passing right they can be a real threat for silver all they have to do is get it right on the day which I believe they can do.
The women are a nerve wrecker for me- they hold vast potential and going on raw speed are the 3rd fastest team on paper (10.86, 11.10, 11.19, 11.21) but somehow the Ukraine and Germany are an ever present threat. Their passing skills are superior to ours but if we can get it right they stand no chance... The thing is where the other teams lack speed they make up for in swift passing. Hence they get a lot of practice together and work on perfecting passing.
Judging by the vid although they said they haven't been told the order it seems like a potential line up may be KS->SH->MLA->KAB. It could change but in that format we'll be competing for bronze. If Semoy is running against Felix/SAFP she can't keep up with them but should be able to hold off the Ukraine and KAB won't give up ground against the Ukraine like MLA did last year.... KS->KAB->MLA->SH may have a better time with a bronze medal- SH can hold off the Ukraine girl- MLA has had experience running the curve this year and has a new pb in the 200 which says she can do a decent job. Apparently VCB will be running the curve and I know she will blow everyone away and Jeneba Tarmoh looks strong on 3rd also(potential mess up for US). So it's up to MLA to keep us competitive on that 3rd leg. All this of course if we make the final.
Target time: 42.20(or whatever it takes to get that medal even if we have to go sub 42)
Analysis Over
KAB gonna run her heart out for that medal and Semoy is a pleasant surprise, she maybe tired though running 5 days straight???
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So will the Jamaicans and the Americans. In fact they will be even more tired. As all the Jamaicans and the Americans were in the 100m final (with the exception of Sanya)
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We have a fifth man in Machel Cedenio with a PR of 46.02, who would have run the semis to rest one of the other guys (Quow, Lendore or Lalonde), but as it stands the remaining 4 will have to run their liver string out to make the final, and if in the final, to medal. Their PBs all from this year are Gordon (44.52), Lendore (45.13), Solomon (45.31), and Cedenio (46.02).
In ONE race it is plausible for Cedenio to lead off in 46 or 45 high, Lendore and Solomon to split mid to high 44s, and Gordon to anchor in 44 flat or 43 high. On paper with clean exchanges, that can give us a 2:58 high to 2:59.
To do that twice is now a very tall order without Quow, and even a 2:59 is not assured a medal, even with a weakened US team (no Merritt).
There's the Bahamas sure to come out for redemption after not medalling with 3/2 guys in the semis/final, the US, The Belgians with the Borlee twins, Dominican Republic with Santos and Sanchez, UK, Russia, Poland, Kenya, and even Cuba and Venezuela - all capable of running right at 3:00 or under.
Maybe lightning will try twice for us and Lendore, Solomon or Cedenio would run above their form, as Gordon did.
In the 4x400m relay if you want to create you best possible chance of medalling then you need to establish a lead over your opponents from early in the race which means you need at least one of your two fastest runners on the opening two legs.
You then hope that the other two runners on legs 3 and 4 can run their skins off (PB's) to hold on to the lead you have established on your opponents. So we need Lalonde on either leg one or leg two and I would definitely put Jehue on the squad.
This was the order of the 4x400m relay squad when we set a new national record in June this year:-
Renny Quow >> Lalonde Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore.
I would suggest keeping a similar order as near as we possibly can with the healthy 400m runners we currently have!
So here are some suggested relay orders for us to make the final and possibly medal.
4x400m relay Heats:
Lalonde Gordon >> Machel Cedino >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
4x400m relay Final:
Lalonde Gordon >> Jehue Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
Alternatively if Machel Cedino really impresses and can hold his own with the seniors in the heats then we use him again instead of Jehue in the final.
Btw fellas, I've already created a special thread for the relays called London Olympics Men and Women's 4x100m and 4x400m Relay Thread! at this link: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=57606.0 so please post your ideas for our relay squads performing at their best in that thread.
Pro,
I agree with you. But the other three can't even make a 45.5. The truth is they shouldn't even be in the final and if they do they won't have much impact. I do all kinda math and the best I could come up with is maybe 2:59. Had Quow been there a sub 2:58 would've been possible.
Unless everybody start bussing a PB.
VB
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Congrats to the men's team on breaking the national record again 3:00.38 and making it to the finals.
We won our heat as GB slowed down and ran the same time as us.
Honestly, I don't think we have the horse power to beat the US, Bahamas or GB. The third leg Alleyn-Forte let us down badly. Solomon and Lendore did a fine job as 2nd and 4th legs respectively.
Everybody ran a sub 45 split with the exception of Forte who ran a 46.12.
I am wondering if Jehue Gordon can replace him.
I think we have fourth place on lock down so it's just a matter of bad mind to break the 3 minute barrier and see what happens.
This is a helluva an accomplishment to break the NR twice this year. As these guys progress, Lord knows what they can do.
VB
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Trinidad and Tobago tied with Great Britain in first place for the first heat - both registering 3:00.38.
Great Britain's Jack Green produced a storming finish to the third leg to give anchor runner Martyn Rooney a narrow lead.
Rooney held the lead until easing up just before the line, allowing Trinidad and Tobago to take first place, although both teams were given the same time and qualify automatically for the final.
The Bahamas and the USA were also given the same time - 2:58.87 - in the second semi-final, to qualify quickest.
Those four nations will be joined by Cuba and Russia in Friday's final after they also hit qualification times in the heats.
Any faint hopes of Usain Bolt appearing in the 4 x 400m Relay final were ended when Jamaican team-mate Jermaine Gonzales pulled up injured on the third leg.
However, there will be a chance for the South Africa team featuring Oscar Pistorius, after they were given a place in the final on appeal.
Pistorius was due to run the third leg in this morning's heats but did not even get his hands on the baton after team-mate Ofentse Mogawane collided with Kenya's Vincent Mumu Kiilu around the top bend on the second leg.
Both athletes were sent sprawling to the track and although Kiilu was able to resume running, Mogawane suffered a suspected dislocated shoulder and could not carry on.
The Kenyan team were disqualified and South Africa lodged a successful appeal, which saw them added to tomorrow's final in lane nine. LJ van Zyl will replace Mogawane in the quartet.
The decision has delighted Pistorius, who admits he is living a dream by competing on the Olympic Games stage.
He said: 'It's been absolutely phenomenal, just stepping out there again today on the track in front of a crowd like this has been awesome.
'This whole experience has just been mind-blowing for me, I can't describe it in so many words, I'll be speaking for days.'
Elsewhere, it took almost two hours to determine the 12 qualifiers for Saturday's final of the women's High Jump.
With 14 athletes still in contention when the bar was raised to the automatic qualification standard of 1.96m, discussions started between athletes and officials to determine if the additional height would be required to make the cut.
After careful study of the standings, all seven athletes without a failure decided to pass as they were guaranteed to be in the top 12, with three athletes with only one failure doing the same.
That left four women battling for two places and former world junior champion Svetlana Radzivil of Uzbekistan cleared 1.96m at the first attempt to book her place.
Germany's Ariane Friedrich and Greece's Adonia Steryiou had three failures at 1.96m, leaving Russia's Irina Gordeeva to advance courtesy of having just one failure against Friedrich's two at 1.93m.
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We have a fifth man in Machel Cedenio with a PR of 46.02, who would have run the semis to rest one of the other guys (Quow, Lendore or Lalonde), but as it stands the remaining 4 will have to run their liver string out to make the final, and if in the final, to medal. Their PBs all from this year are Gordon (44.52), Lendore (45.13), Solomon (45.31), and Cedenio (46.02).
In ONE race it is plausible for Cedenio to lead off in 46 or 45 high, Lendore and Solomon to split mid to high 44s, and Gordon to anchor in 44 flat or 43 high. On paper with clean exchanges, that can give us a 2:58 high to 2:59.
To do that twice is now a very tall order without Quow, and even a 2:59 is not assured a medal, even with a weakened US team (no Merritt).
There's the Bahamas sure to come out for redemption after not medalling with 3/2 guys in the semis/final, the US, The Belgians with the Borlee twins, Dominican Republic with Santos and Sanchez, UK, Russia, Poland, Kenya, and even Cuba and Venezuela - all capable of running right at 3:00 or under.
Maybe lightning will try twice for us and Lendore, Solomon or Cedenio would run above their form, as Gordon did.
In the 4x400m relay if you want to create you best possible chance of medalling then you need to establish a lead over your opponents from early in the race which means you need at least one of your two fastest runners on the opening two legs.
You then hope that the other two runners on legs 3 and 4 can run their skins off (PB's) to hold on to the lead you have established on your opponents. So we need Lalonde on either leg one or leg two and I would definitely put Jehue on the squad.
This was the order of the 4x400m relay squad when we set a new national record in June this year:-
Renny Quow >> Lalonde Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore.
I would suggest keeping a similar order as near as we possibly can with the healthy 400m runners we currently have!
So here are some suggested relay orders for us to make the final and possibly medal.
4x400m relay Heats:
Lalonde Gordon >> Machel Cedino >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
4x400m relay Final:
Lalonde Gordon >> Jehue Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
Alternatively if Machel Cedino really impresses and can hold his own with the seniors in the heats then we use him again instead of Jehue in the final.
Btw fellas, I've already created a special thread for the relays called London Olympics Men and Women's 4x100m and 4x400m Relay Thread! at this link: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=57606.0 so please post your ideas for our relay squads performing at their best in that thread.
Pro,
I agree with you. But the other three can't even make a 45.5. The truth is they shouldn't even be in the final and if they do they won't have much impact. I do all kinda math and the best I could come up with is maybe 2:59. Had Quow been there a sub 2:58 would've been possible.
Unless everybody start bussing a PB.
VB
So has Quow been officially ruled out ? Not hearing any official confirmation yet....would be great to have him back in the mix.
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We can beat GB once we have a good 3rd leg run
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We have a fifth man in Machel Cedenio with a PR of 46.02, who would have run the semis to rest one of the other guys (Quow, Lendore or Lalonde), but as it stands the remaining 4 will have to run their liver string out to make the final, and if in the final, to medal. Their PBs all from this year are Gordon (44.52), Lendore (45.13), Solomon (45.31), and Cedenio (46.02).
In ONE race it is plausible for Cedenio to lead off in 46 or 45 high, Lendore and Solomon to split mid to high 44s, and Gordon to anchor in 44 flat or 43 high. On paper with clean exchanges, that can give us a 2:58 high to 2:59.
To do that twice is now a very tall order without Quow, and even a 2:59 is not assured a medal, even with a weakened US team (no Merritt).
There's the Bahamas sure to come out for redemption after not medalling with 3/2 guys in the semis/final, the US, The Belgians with the Borlee twins, Dominican Republic with Santos and Sanchez, UK, Russia, Poland, Kenya, and even Cuba and Venezuela - all capable of running right at 3:00 or under.
Maybe lightning will try twice for us and Lendore, Solomon or Cedenio would run above their form, as Gordon did.
In the 4x400m relay if you want to create you best possible chance of medalling then you need to establish a lead over your opponents from early in the race which means you need at least one of your two fastest runners on the opening two legs.
You then hope that the other two runners on legs 3 and 4 can run their skins off (PB's) to hold on to the lead you have established on your opponents. So we need Lalonde on either leg one or leg two and I would definitely put Jehue on the squad.
This was the order of the 4x400m relay squad when we set a new national record in June this year:-
Renny Quow >> Lalonde Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore.
I would suggest keeping a similar order as near as we possibly can with the healthy 400m runners we currently have!
So here are some suggested relay orders for us to make the final and possibly medal.
4x400m relay Heats:
Lalonde Gordon >> Machel Cedino >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
4x400m relay Final:
Lalonde Gordon >> Jehue Gordon >> Jarrin Solomon >> Deon Lendore
Alternatively if Machel Cedino really impresses and can hold his own with the seniors in the heats then we use him again instead of Jehue in the final.
Btw fellas, I've already created a special thread for the relays called London Olympics Men and Women's 4x100m and 4x400m Relay Thread! at this link: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=57606.0 so please post your ideas for our relay squads performing at their best in that thread.
Pro,
I agree with you. But the other three can't even make a 45.5. The truth is they shouldn't even be in the final and if they do they won't have much impact. I do all kinda math and the best I could come up with is maybe 2:59. Had Quow been there a sub 2:58 would've been possible.
Unless everybody start bussing a PB.
VB
So has Quow been officially ruled out ? Not hearing any official confirmation yet....would be great to have him back in the mix.
Quow has left England to go US for treatment a few days ago
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We can beat GB once we have a good 3rd leg run
Fully agree and if we can beat GB then the bronze is most likely ours!!
I know the stadium will be cheering on Team GB so we will need to make sure we hand over well ahead of GB on the 3rd leg!!
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The same squad that vb bad talking just run ah national record, lol........
ah love it!!
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The same squad that vb bad talking just run ah national record, lol........
ah love it!!
You are obviously confused.
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These are the splits:
GORDON L
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
400m 44.97 1 44.9 1
SOLOMON J
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
800m 1:29.77 1 44.8 3
ALLEYNE-FORTE A
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1200m 2:15.89 3 46.12 6
LENDORE D
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1600m 3:00.38 2 44.49 2
Pretty strong splits. Probably Alleyne-Forte to be replaced by Jehue. Lalonde will probably be able to give us more in the final as well. I hoping they can shave a little over a second off the NR in the final.
FYI for those of you who read into odds, most betting sites have us as 3rd favorites behind the USA and Bahamas and very close To Great Britain with about 12:1 odds - definitely viewed as a strong medal contender.
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These are the splits:
GORDON L
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
400m 44.97 1 44.9 1
SOLOMON J
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
800m 1:29.77 1 44.8 3
ALLEYNE-FORTE A
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1200m 2:15.89 3 46.12 6
LENDORE D
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1600m 3:00.38 2 44.49 2
Pretty strong splits. Probably Alleyne-Forte to be replaced by Jehue. Lalonde will probably be able to give us more in the final as well. I hoping they can shave a little over a second off the NR in the final.
FYI for those of you who read into odds, most betting sites have us as 3rd favorites behind the USA and Bahamas and very close To Great Britain with about 12:1 odds - definitely viewed as a strong medal contender.
Do you feel that Jehue can do a better job than Cedenio on our 3rd leg knowing Cedenio's reputation for running down people in the last 100metres if he is not already ahead?
I am sort of leaning towards Cedenio for the 3rd leg now noting all his recent relay experience and provided that folks are confident he can run a 44 mid split like the other guys on the squad!
The question is can Cedenio run a 44 mid split or is Jehue the better candidate?
Imagine if Cedenio gets the nod and proves to the world on the 3rd leg that he could be the next Kirani James in a couple of years?! That Cedenio is a bad-minded youth, I like him! ;)
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Cedenio can run no doubt, but who is the faster 400m runner.
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That's a good debate to have. I may give a slight edge to Jehue based on experience but we don't quite know Cedenio's ceiling yet so it'll be interesting to see what they choose.
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Cedenio can run no doubt, but who is the faster 400m runner.
Maybe Jehue and Cedenio should have a showdown in training today to decide who gets the 3rd leg?! :devil:
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These are the splits:
GORDON L
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
400m 44.97 1 44.9 1
SOLOMON J
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
800m 1:29.77 1 44.8 3
ALLEYNE-FORTE A
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1200m 2:15.89 3 46.12 6
LENDORE D
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1600m 3:00.38 2 44.49 2
Pretty strong splits. Probably Alleyne-Forte to be replaced by Jehue. Lalonde will probably be able to give us more in the final as well. I hoping they can shave a little over a second off the NR in the final.
FYI for those of you who read into odds, most betting sites have us as 3rd favorites behind the USA and Bahamas and very close To Great Britain with about 12:1 odds - definitely viewed as a strong medal contender.
Do you feel that Jehue can do a better job than Cedenio on our 3rd leg knowing Cedenio's reputation for running down people in the last 100metres if he is not already ahead?
I am sort of lending towards Cedenio for the 3rd leg now noting all his recent relay experience and provided that folks are confident he can run a 44 mid split like the other guys on the squad!
The question is can Cedenio run a 44 mid split or is Jehue the better candidate?
Imagine if Cedenio gets the nod and proves to the world on the 3rd leg that he could be the next Kirani James in a couple of years?! That Cedenio is a bad-minded youth, I like him! ;)
I agree Soca. I am pretty sure Cedenio ran a sub 46 split in the 4x400 this year.
Cedenio is right on the cusp of running mid to high 45s. He will do it if at the Olympics if he gets a chance...
Last, you heard it hear first. James, Santos and Cedenio will be the top contenders in the 400 in the years to come.
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Cedenio can run no doubt, but who is the faster 400m runner.
Maybe Jehue and Cedenio should have a showdown in training today to decide who gets the 3rd leg?! :devil:
Lol.. A show down. Kind of like the run off?
Jehue hasnt run a good time in the 400m this year. Never made the top list. However, a sub 48 in the 400mh, could translate into an easy mid 45.s
I am still with Cedenio for this one. Cedenio will rise into the spot light.
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These are the splits:
GORDON L
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
400m 44.97 1 44.9 1
SOLOMON J
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
800m 1:29.77 1 44.8 3
ALLEYNE-FORTE A
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1200m 2:15.89 3 46.12 6
LENDORE D
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1600m 3:00.38 2 44.49 2
Pretty strong splits. Probably Alleyne-Forte to be replaced by Jehue. Lalonde will probably be able to give us more in the final as well. I hoping they can shave a little over a second off the NR in the final.
FYI for those of you who read into odds, most betting sites have us as 3rd favorites behind the USA and Bahamas and very close To Great Britain with about 12:1 odds - definitely viewed as a strong medal contender.
Do you feel that Jehue can do a better job than Cedenio on our 3rd leg knowing Cedenio's reputation for running down people in the last 100metres if he is not already ahead?
I am sort of lending towards Cedenio for the 3rd leg now noting all his recent relay experience and provided that folks are confident he can run a 44 mid split like the other guys on the squad!
The question is can Cedenio run a 44 mid split or is Jehue the better candidate?
Imagine if Cedenio gets the nod and proves to the world on the 3rd leg that he could be the next Kirani James in a couple of years?! That Cedenio is a bad-minded youth, I like him! ;)
I agree Soca. I am pretty sure Cedenio ran a sub 46 split in the 4x400 this year.
Cedenio is right on the cusp of running mid to high 45s. He will do it if at the Olympics if he gets a chance...
Last, you heard it hear first. James, Santos and Cedenio will be the top contenders in the 400 in the years to come.
Problem is we may need someone who can run a 44 high or mid on the 3rd leg if we want to medal and neither Jehue nor Cedenio have ever done that time before on a relay leg to my knowledge.
However this is the Olympics and athletes should be inspired to give their best ever performances especially as part of a relay team as you don’t want to let your colleagues or country down.
So between Jehue and Cedenio who is more capable of the two of running a 44 high or mid split tomorrow on that 3rd leg for the first time in their career and handing us over in a medalling position for the crucial final leg?
If we get this thing right we could medal and break the nation record for the 3rd time in a few months. Should it be Jehue or Cedenio on the 3rd leg?
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These are the splits:
GORDON L
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
400m 44.97 1 44.9 1
SOLOMON J
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
800m 1:29.77 1 44.8 3
ALLEYNE-FORTE A
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1200m 2:15.89 3 46.12 6
LENDORE D
INTERM. MARK RK SPLIT SPLIT RANK
1600m 3:00.38 2 44.49 2
Pretty strong splits. Probably Alleyne-Forte to be replaced by Jehue. Lalonde will probably be able to give us more in the final as well. I hoping they can shave a little over a second off the NR in the final.
FYI for those of you who read into odds, most betting sites have us as 3rd favorites behind the USA and Bahamas and very close To Great Britain with about 12:1 odds - definitely viewed as a strong medal contender.
Do you feel that Jehue can do a better job than Cedenio on our 3rd leg knowing Cedenio's reputation for running down people in the last 100metres if he is not already ahead?
I am sort of lending towards Cedenio for the 3rd leg now noting all his recent relay experience and provided that folks are confident he can run a 44 mid split like the other guys on the squad!
The question is can Cedenio run a 44 mid split or is Jehue the better candidate?
Imagine if Cedenio gets the nod and proves to the world on the 3rd leg that he could be the next Kirani James in a couple of years?! That Cedenio is a bad-minded youth, I like him! ;)
I agree Soca. I am pretty sure Cedenio ran a sub 46 split in the 4x400 this year.
Cedenio is right on the cusp of running mid to high 45s. He will do it if at the Olympics if he gets a chance...
Last, you heard it hear first. James, Santos and Cedenio will be the top contenders in the 400 in the years to come.
Problem is we may need someone who can run a 44 high or mid on the 3rd leg if we want to medal and neither Jehue nor Cedenio have ever done that time before on a realy leg to my knowledge.
However this is the Olmpics and athletes should be inspired to give their best ever performances ever especially as part of a relay team as you don’t want to let your colleagues or country down.
So between Jehue and Cedenio who is more capable of the two of running a 44 high or mid split tomorrow on that 3rd leg for the first time in their career and handing us over in a medalling position for the crucial final leg?
If we get this thing right we could medal and break the nation record for the 3rd time in a few months. Should it be Jehue or Cedenio on the 3rd leg?
Agreed. We need high 44s .. maybe able to get away with a very low 45. Cedenio is 46.02 for the year. Gordon's last 400m time was around a mid 46s (need to confirm). I think Cedenio can probably run a mid to high 45s. Might be all we got now. But I am willing to put all my eggs in one basket for this youth. He also has a bit of an attitude or edge. This will protect him from the big boys who might try to push him.
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Ok so the consensus seems to be to "Leggo Cedenio"!
Let's prayer that the youth man is up to this, remember he is still only 16!! :beermug:
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Ok so the consensus seems to be to "Leggo Cedenio"!
Let's prayer that the youth man is up to this, remember he is still only 16!! :beermug:
16. Running for TT Sr.s for the first time in an Olympic Final. I believe that if Jehue or Cedino are in proper form, they could help us shave close to a second off the time that was run today. If any team is harbouring medal contentions, they should be targetting under 2:59.
We have a solid outside shot at a medal but we need to break that 3 minute barrier.
VB
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
yes but from who besides la lalonde ? Remeber this is rounds we talking here ....men put out already and we asking them to put out what they have not done before ... not many can do that.
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
yes but from who besides la lalonde ? Remeber this is rounds we talking here ....men put out already and we asking them to put out what they have not done before ... not many can do that.
YUh new to this game or what?
IS only the lead off man that has to be able to run a sub 45...the rest get a running start and they usually run faster than if starting from th blocks.
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
yes but from who besides la lalonde ? Remeber this is rounds we talking here ....men put out already and we asking them to put out what they have not done before ... not many can do that.
YUh new to this game or what?
IS only the lead off man that has to be able to run a sub 45...the rest get a running start and they usually run faster than if starting from th blocks.
Even more frightening considering Forte's time. He had a runnin start and at least a five metre lead. :-[
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
yes but from who besides la lalonde ? Remeber this is rounds we talking here ....men put out already and we asking them to put out what they have not done before ... not many can do that.
YUh new to this game or what?
IS only the lead off man that has to be able to run a sub 45...the rest get a running start and they usually run faster than if starting from th blocks.
Thats right TT.
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I think Cedenio must have already run a mid 45.s split in a 4x400 earlier this year.
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
yes but from who besides la lalonde ? Remeber this is rounds we talking here ....men put out already and we asking them to put out what they have not done before ... not many can do that.
YUh new to this game or what?
IS only the lead off man that has to be able to run a sub 45...the rest get a running start and they usually run faster than if starting from th blocks.
Even more frightening considering Forte's time. He had a runnin start and at least a five metre lead. :-[
In Fairness to Forte, I feel is nerves eh..and inexperience. He did run the man back down a bit. I feel he was trying to ration the speed a bit
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I think Cedenio must have already run a mid 45.s split in a 4x400 earlier this year.
I have the same feeling. Thus if he is in shape, leggo him.
I can only hope nerves don't get the better of him.
VB
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Looks like this will be the women line up. 1. MA, 2. KB , 3. KS and 4 SH. I like that line-up but I would have rested SH and gave RT a run.
I think with RT in we would still advance, and then put SH in for the final.
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Looks like this will be the women line up. 1. MA, 2. KB , 3. KS and 4 SH. I like that line-up but I would have rested SH and gave RT a run.
I think with RT in we would still advance, and then put SH in for the final.
I know what youre saying. But we have to go with what will work for sure.
Heard there is lots of energy in the T&T camp. Hope they are rallying behind each other, now that the 4x400 will be in the final and a possible medal contender.
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US Relay Runner breaks leg, finishes relay leg
The curse of men's 4x400m team
By: Matthew Kitchen, NBC OlympicsUPDATED: Aug 9, 2:37p ET
Athletes compete in the men's 4x400m relay round 1 heat during the London 2012 Olympic Games.
And the hits just keep on coming.
An already depleted American 4x400m team took another hit Thursday afternoon when Manteo Mitchell allegedly broke his leg with 200 meters left during his turn around the track.
"I got out pretty slow, but I picked it up and when I got to the 100-meter mark it felt weird," Mitchell told USA Track and Field. "I was thinking I just didn’t feel right. As soon as I took the first step past the 200-meter mark, I felt it break. I heard it. I even put out a little war cry, but the crowd was so loud you couldn’t hear it. I wanted to just lie down. It felt like somebody literally just snapped my leg in half."
Mitchell, who doctors determined broke his left fibula, says he was spurred on by teammate Joshua Mance waving him in to the line.
"I didn’t want to let those three guys down," he added, "so I just ran on it. It hurt so bad. I’m pretty amazed that I still split 45 seconds on a broken leg."
The men finished second in their heat in 2:58.87, runner up to the Bahamas, and qualified for Friday night's final. Not counting the boycotted 1980 Games the U.S. men have won gold in the 4x400m event in every Olympics since 1976.
Manteo joins a pretty talented injured list that includes two 400m Olympic gold medalists, Jeremy Wariner and LaShawn Merritt, who both went down with hamstring injuries since arriving in London.
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Had luck brother, how the hell that happen? Stress fracture?
One less yank to study about.
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Wow our medal chances just got better. The only one left to replace him is Clement or Taylor.
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It just got interesting..Jeremy Warriner is nursing an injury as well. He will have to fill in. Angelo Taylor and Kerron Clement were not named to the relay pool.
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US Relay Runner breaks leg, finishes relay leg
Mitchell, who doctors determined broke his left fibula, says he was spurred on by teammate Joshua Mance waving him in to the line.
"I didn’t want to let those three guys down," he added, "so I just ran on it. It hurt so bad. I’m pretty amazed that I still split 45 seconds on a broken leg."
de same "something" that does make some americans annoying to me... is the same "something" that yuh does end up admiring.
how de arse he finish dat race... if it was me i was lying down... to arse with allyuh yes. Dat is pride!
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What kinda cyborg the US have runnin dey? Not even that he didn't realize and keep goin eh, he say he hear it crack, and still finish.
Cyborgs.
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We in the final
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The exchange from Kelly-Ann to Kai needs work. It was very close to the end of the zone. Hope they were not DQ'd. But we have a new NR of 42.31
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The exchange from Kelly-Ann to Kai needs work. It was very close to the end of the zone. Hope they were not DQ'd. But we have a new NR of 42.31
Doh say that
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:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
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Damn, Ukraine in we arse again time wise, it will be a tussle for bronze
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Jamaica baton change was d worse
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4x100 Metres Relay - W HEATS
Qual. rule: first 3 of each heat (Q) plus the 2 fastest times (q) qualified.
Heat 109 August 2012 - 20:20
Position Lane Team Country Mark .
1 2 United States
(Tianna Madison; Jeneba Tarmoh; Bianca Knight; Lauryn Williams) USA 41.64 Q (SB)
2 4 Trinidad and Tobago
(Michelle-Lee Ahye; Kelly-Ann Baptiste; Kai Selvon; Semoy Hackett) TRI 42.31 Q (NR)
3 8 Netherlands
(Kadene Vassell; Dafne Schippers; Eva Lubbers; Jamile Samuel) NED 42.45 Q (NR)
4 7 Brazil
(Ana Claudia Silva; Franciela Krasucki; Evelyn dos Santos; Rosângela Santos) BRA 42.55 (AR)
5 3 Nigeria
(Christy Udoh; Gloria Asumnu; Oludamola Osayomi; Blessing Okagbare) NGR 42.74 (SB)
6 9 Bahamas
(Sheniqua Ferguson; Chandra Sturrup; Christine Amertil; Anthonique Strachan) BAH 43.07 (SB)
7 6 Switzerland
(Michelle Cueni; Mujinga Kambundji; Ellen Sprunger; Léa Sprunger) SUI 43.54 (PB)
8 5 Japan
(Anna Doi; Kana Ichikawa; Chisato Fukushima; Yumeka Sano) JPN 44.25
From the website. Everything is okay. We in the finals! History is made.
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Lane Team Country SB 2012 PB
2 Nigeria NGR 42.74 42.39
3 Germany GER 42.51 41.91
4 Trinidad and Tobago TRI 42.31 42.31
5 Ukraine UKR 42.36 42.29
6 Jamaica JAM 42.37 41.70
7 United States USA 41.64 41.47
8 Brazil BRA 42.55 42.55
9 Netherlands NED 42.45 42.45
We got a good lane.
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Lane Team Country SB 2012 PB
2 Nigeria NGR 42.74 42.39
3 Germany GER 42.51 41.91
4 Trinidad and Tobago TRI 42.31 42.31
5 Ukraine UKR 42.36 42.29
6 Jamaica JAM 42.37 41.70
7 United States USA 41.64 41.47
8 Brazil BRA 42.55 42.55
9 Netherlands NED 42.45 42.45
We got a good lane.
Yes indeed, right inside the Ukraine, beat them we get a bronze or better
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Well done to the 4x4 team. Hmmm thats a tough one, all we need is a 45 split to hang onto the medals! I think Cedenio can do it. Jehue may be slightly tired after the 400 hurdles at the same time it may have worked in his favour because if he is in 47s shape in the hurdles that may be equivalent to a 45 split. It's a tough decision.
The women did well. Only thing is Kelly's change with Kai- brush up on that and only Semoy is left to hold on for dear life. Just one more race she must be so tired but she can do it. It's a shame Kai isn't in her best form because she could do a better job on third and we could get dip bellow 42.
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Semoy does run like a beast dread, love it!
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Lane Team Country SB 2012 PB
2 Nigeria NGR 42.74 42.39
3 Germany GER 42.51 41.91
4 Trinidad and Tobago TRI 42.31 42.31
5 Ukraine UKR 42.36 42.29
6 Jamaica JAM 42.37 41.70
7 United States USA 41.64 41.47
8 Brazil BRA 42.55 42.55
9 Netherlands NED 42.45 42.45
We got a good lane.
Good at least we can see them. Pass them bronze is ours, god willing we pass clean around the track
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Don't do that please, it might boomerang our way!!
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Don't do that please, it might boomerang our way!!
Exactly.
Last Olympics I was watching the relays with Fishs in Istanbul.
When the US men drop the baton and Fishs start to laugh. I tell him is becz I didn't want to goat mouth the women. Well the women went and drop the baton.
If they fumble or get injured I won't cry though :)
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we really hoping here ....low 44's ? from who besides La Londe ? nah man lets be realistic we are weakened for a medal with the absence of Quow .... everone would have to run at their best for us to even medal ...I would go for Forte instead of jehue or cedeno .... and hope they all improve.
We dont need a low 44 to medal. I say a something around the mid 45.s will be enough for a medal.
yes but from who besides la lalonde ? Remeber this is rounds we talking here ....men put out already and we asking them to put out what they have not done before ... not many can do that.
YUh new to this game or what?
IS only the lead off man that has to be able to run a sub 45...the rest get a running start and they usually run faster than if starting from th blocks.
Even more frightening considering Forte's time. He had a runnin start and at least a five metre lead. :-[
In Fairness to Forte, I feel is nerves eh..and inexperience. He did run the man back down a bit. I feel he was trying to ration the speed a bit
Nerves and inexperience????? Forte went to school in the SEC. He ran against teams of the caliber we did today on a WEEKLY BASIS, so those reasons will not fly. He ran weak legs for LSU and it continued today.
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It just got interesting..Jeremy Warriner is nursing an injury as well. He will have to fill in. Angelo Taylor and Kerron Clement were not named to the relay pool.
Wariner tore his hamstring and is done for the year. So up comes Angelo Taylor
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It just got interesting..Jeremy Warriner is nursing an injury as well. He will have to fill in. Angelo Taylor and Kerron Clement were not named to the relay pool.
Wariner tore his hamstring and is done for the year. So up comes Angelo Taylor
Yeah.. But how does that work in regards to naming for the relay pool? Angelo Taylor is not named.. Plus there is a deadline for submitting the runners. I think in the end the Americans will always have a way of circumventing any red tape.
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Can anyone confirm our 4x400 team for tomorrow? Is it Alleyne-Forte? Or is it Cedenio?
Meh boy say that Cedenio ran a mid 45 split at the Nationals and the World Junior Championships.. I think he is the man for the job
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It just got interesting..Jeremy Warriner is nursing an injury as well. He will have to fill in. Angelo Taylor and Kerron Clement were not named to the relay pool.
Wariner tore his hamstring and is done for the year. So up comes Angelo Taylor
Yeah.. But how does that work in regards to naming for the relay pool? Angelo Taylor is not named.. Plus there is a deadline for submitting the runners. I think in the end the Americans will always have a way of circumventing any red tape.
The deadline I believe is 36 hours before the race. For instance going back to the topic of Sorrillo/Burns, the TTOC had up until Aug3rd to declare who is actually running. You can enter someone into and event, but it is not set in stone until the Chief de Mission for the team signs the declaration form and officially enters them. This usually takes place the day before the event begins.
Anyways mr. Taylor just said he is running on twitter.
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Aviator do you feel that Sorillo should have given up his place to Burns or another runner?
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Aviator do you feel that Sorillo should have given up his place to Burns or another runner?
I think the question is really this.. If you were in 2 events and you knew your chances, what will you do? If it was me, I would have focused on one.
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Aviator do you feel that Sorillo should have given up his place to Burns or another runner?
I think the question is really this.. If you were in 2 events and you knew your chances, what will you do? If it was me, I would have focused on one.
I honestly believe that if Sorillo had done the intelligent thing he could have qualified for the 200m final at Olympics just like he did last year at World's and his demand and appearance value for international meets would have gone up a few notches as an Olympic 200m finalist.
Anyway, I just hope Sorrillo and his management team are a bit wiser in the future as we all can make mistakes! :beermug:
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Aviator do you feel that Sorillo should have given up his place to Burns or another runner?
No Sorrillo should not have given up his spot, but the TTOC should have. The last time I checked, our trials was not as cut throat as our Jamaican or American counterparts, and they reserve the right to choose who they want. Burns has shown time and time again that whatever he runs during the season, he can repeat or exceed when the lights are on. Considering the time that RT got into the final with, I see Burns being able to also run a similar time. If he did not make the final it would have been barely so and not way back like Sorrillo.
The 20.37 ran by the last qualifier into the 200m final was well in the range of a fresh Sorrillo and the 20.66 from the heats.
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Not a chance he was making it to the finals of that 200m..Not a chance in Hell! he did the right thing..he can proudly state I ran in the 2012 Olympics in two sprint events. I was a semi finalist in the 100m
Not to mention he getting a little better appearance fee from now
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Not a chance he was making it to the finals of that 200m..Not a chance in Hell! he did the right thing..he can proudly state I ran in the 2012 Olympics in two sprint events. I was a semi finalist in the 100m
Not to mention he getting a little better appearance fee from now
Not a chance based on what??? Are you saying he is incapable of running 20.37?
Appearance going up based on what?? Look do make meh dead with laugh here. Makin the semis means nada to meet promoters or shoe sponsors. NOTHING
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Not a chance he was making it to the finals of that 200m..Not a chance in Hell! he did the right thing..he can proudly state I ran in the 2012 Olympics in two sprint events. I was a semi finalist in the 100m
Not to mention he getting a little better appearance fee from now
Not a chance based on what??? Are you saying he is incapable of running 20.37?
Appearance going up based on what?? Look do make meh dead with laugh here. Makin the semis means nada to meet promoters or shoe sponsors. NOTHING
He was not running his best at all. Not by a long shot. Laugh all you want.
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Looks like same 4x400 team is going according to @JehueGordon
I'm not in the relay finals the same team is running, but we all are one TnT all day guys !! All the best to all the relays 2day #I4ANDT
https://twitter.com/jehuegordon/status/233877497740136449
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Change that 3rd leg
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Looks like same 4x400 team is going according to @JehueGordon
I'm not in the relay finals the same team is running, but we all are one TnT all day guys !! All the best to all the relays 2day #I4ANDT
https://twitter.com/jehuegordon/status/233877497740136449
Well if that is the case, Ade better summon something from the deep. If when he hands off that stick, he doesn't fall flat on his face, he didn't try hard enough...lol. ;) In all seriousness, he has to find a way to run a second faster than yesterday.
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Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Heats
(courtesy Mark Butler)
Heat 1
1 3:00.38 TRI Lalonde Gordon 44.2, Jarrin Solomon 45.5, Ade Alleyne-Forte 46.12, Deon Lendore 44.49
2 3:00.38 GBR Nigel Levine 45.8, Conrad Williams 45.4, Jack Green 44.42, Martyn Rooney 44.84
3 3:00.55 CUB William Collazo 46.6, Raidel Acea 43.9, Orestes Rodríguez 45.19, Omar Cisneros 44.89
4 3:01.70 BEL Nils Duerinck 47.2, Jonathan Borlée 44.2, Antoine Gillet 46.10, Kevin Borlée 44.24
5 3:02.86 POL Piotr Wiaderek 46.1, Marcin Marciniszyn 45.5, Michal Pietrzak 45.19, Kacper Kozlowski 46.13
6 3:03.50 GER Jonas Plass 46.6, Kamghe Gaba 45.6, Eric Krüger 45.47, Thomas Schneider 45.92
dnf RSA Shaun de Jager 46.7 (estimate), Ofentse Mogawane dnf (Oscar Pistorius & Willem de Beer
dq 3:21.01 KEN Boniface Mweresa 45.9 (estimate), Vincent Mumo 59.2 (estimate) (fell), Boniface Tumuti 47.79, Alfas Kishoyan 48.01
Heat 2
1 2:58.87 BAH Ramon Miller 45.4, Demetrius Pinder 44.2, Michael Mathieu 44.78, Chris Brown 44.58
2 2:58.87 USA Manteo Mitchell 45.9, Joshua Mance 45.0, Tony McQuay 43.65, Bryshon Nellum 44.37
3 3:02.01 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.9, Denis Alekseyev 45.6, Vladimir Krasnov 45.38, Pavel Trenikhin 45.17
4 3:02.62 VEN Arturo Ramirez 45.4, Alberto Aguilar 46.2, Albert Bravo 45.59, José Meléndez 45.46
5 3:03.17 AUS Steven Solomon 45.4, Ben Offereins 46.7, Brendan Cole 45.48, John Steffensen 45.67
6 3:03.86 JPN Kei Takase 46.5, Yuzo Kanemaru 45.1, Yoshihiro Azuma 46.54, Hiroyuki Nakano 45.73
dnf JAM Dane Hyatt 46.1 (estimate) Riker Hylton 45.1 (estimate), Jermaine Gonzales dnf, Errol Nolan
dq 3:02.35 DOM Gustavo Cuesta 46.4 (estimate), Felix Sanchez 44.8 (estimate), Joel Mejia 46.88, Luguelin Santos 44.19
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Like somebody listen to me!!!!
At 2.53 this afternoon (T&T time), T&T will bid for a men's 4x100m championship race lane. The track and field team manager, here in London, Dexter Voisin, said that Richard "Torpedo" Thompson will run the leadoff leg, handing off to Marc Burns. Emmanuel Callender performs third leg duties, while the anchor leg responsibility is Keston Bledman's.
The pressure cooker line-up!!!!!!! National Record Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Like somebody listen to me!!!!
At 2.53 this afternoon (T&T time), T&T will bid for a men's 4x100m championship race lane. The track and field team manager, here in London, Dexter Voisin, said that Richard "Torpedo" Thompson will run the leadoff leg, handing off to Marc Burns. Emmanuel Callender performs third leg duties, while the anchor leg responsibility is Keston Bledman's.
The pressure cooker line-up!!!!!!! National Record Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We know you have the inside track Aviator and on the payroll, but continue to keep it discreet and keeping us informed ;D
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Pace!!! get that batton around clean
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Can't wait for this afternoon...
lewee go!
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Looks like same 4x400 team is going according to @JehueGordon
I'm not in the relay finals the same team is running, but we all are one TnT all day guys !! All the best to all the relays 2day #I4ANDT
https://twitter.com/jehuegordon/status/233877497740136449
Well if that is the case, Ade better summon something from the deep. If when he hands off that stick, he doesn't fall flat on his face, he didn't try hard enough...lol. ;) In all seriousness, he has to find a way to run a second faster than yesterday.
It may have been a lack of running. Jehue had a four days to rest. So I'm disappointed he's not in the mix.
Aviator, that's it in a nutshell.
VB
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Can't wait for this afternoon...
lewee go!
This is one of the biggest days in T&T sports history. We really need to get behind our athletes.
Best of luck
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Pressure. I feeling the nerves all now.
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So it's
Men's 4x100 Round 1 - Fri, Aug 10 2:45p EST
Women's 4x100 Final - Fri, Aug 10 3:40p EST
Men's 4x400 Final - Fri, Aug 10 4:20p EST
And
Men's 4x100 Final - Sat, Aug 11 4:00p EST
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Long time i ain't feel so nervous for a sporting event.
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Aye leg 3 run like lucifer behind you please.
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Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Heats
(courtesy Mark Butler)
Heat 1
1 3:00.38 TRI Lalonde Gordon 44.2, Jarrin Solomon 45.5, Ade Alleyne-Forte 46.12, Deon Lendore 44.49
2 3:00.38 GBR Nigel Levine 45.8, Conrad Williams 45.4, Jack Green 44.42, Martyn Rooney 44.84
3 3:00.55 CUB William Collazo 46.6, Raidel Acea 43.9, Orestes Rodríguez 45.19, Omar Cisneros 44.89
4 3:01.70 BEL Nils Duerinck 47.2, Jonathan Borlée 44.2, Antoine Gillet 46.10, Kevin Borlée 44.24
5 3:02.86 POL Piotr Wiaderek 46.1, Marcin Marciniszyn 45.5, Michal Pietrzak 45.19, Kacper Kozlowski 46.13
6 3:03.50 GER Jonas Plass 46.6, Kamghe Gaba 45.6, Eric Krüger 45.47, Thomas Schneider 45.92
dnf RSA Shaun de Jager 46.7 (estimate), Ofentse Mogawane dnf (Oscar Pistorius & Willem de Beer
dq 3:21.01 KEN Boniface Mweresa 45.9 (estimate), Vincent Mumo 59.2 (estimate) (fell), Boniface Tumuti 47.79, Alfas Kishoyan 48.01
Heat 2
1 2:58.87 BAH Ramon Miller 45.4, Demetrius Pinder 44.2, Michael Mathieu 44.78, Chris Brown 44.58
2 2:58.87 USA Manteo Mitchell 45.9, Joshua Mance 45.0, Tony McQuay 43.65, Bryshon Nellum 44.37
3 3:02.01 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.9, Denis Alekseyev 45.6, Vladimir Krasnov 45.38, Pavel Trenikhin 45.17
4 3:02.62 VEN Arturo Ramirez 45.4, Alberto Aguilar 46.2, Albert Bravo 45.59, José Meléndez 45.46
5 3:03.17 AUS Steven Solomon 45.4, Ben Offereins 46.7, Brendan Cole 45.48, John Steffensen 45.67
6 3:03.86 JPN Kei Takase 46.5, Yuzo Kanemaru 45.1, Yoshihiro Azuma 46.54, Hiroyuki Nakano 45.73
dnf JAM Dane Hyatt 46.1 (estimate) Riker Hylton 45.1 (estimate), Jermaine Gonzales dnf, Errol Nolan
dq 3:02.35 DOM Gustavo Cuesta 46.4 (estimate), Felix Sanchez 44.8 (estimate), Joel Mejia 46.88, Luguelin Santos 44.19
Ade Alleyne-Forte needs to run much faster than 46.12 on the 3rd leg in the final this evening otherwise our chance of a medal will be gone!
I guess this means that the relay management team believes Ade will do a better/quicker job on the 3rd leg than Cedenio then? :-\
Let's hope they are right as Ade was definitely the weakest link in our relay quad in the 4x400m relay Heats yesterday morning.
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Shite
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Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Heats
(courtesy Mark Butler)
Heat 1
1 3:00.38 TRI Lalonde Gordon 44.2, Jarrin Solomon 45.5, Ade Alleyne-Forte 46.12, Deon Lendore 44.49
2 3:00.38 GBR Nigel Levine 45.8, Conrad Williams 45.4, Jack Green 44.42, Martyn Rooney 44.84
3 3:00.55 CUB William Collazo 46.6, Raidel Acea 43.9, Orestes Rodríguez 45.19, Omar Cisneros 44.89
4 3:01.70 BEL Nils Duerinck 47.2, Jonathan Borlée 44.2, Antoine Gillet 46.10, Kevin Borlée 44.24
5 3:02.86 POL Piotr Wiaderek 46.1, Marcin Marciniszyn 45.5, Michal Pietrzak 45.19, Kacper Kozlowski 46.13
6 3:03.50 GER Jonas Plass 46.6, Kamghe Gaba 45.6, Eric Krüger 45.47, Thomas Schneider 45.92
dnf RSA Shaun de Jager 46.7 (estimate), Ofentse Mogawane dnf (Oscar Pistorius & Willem de Beer
dq 3:21.01 KEN Boniface Mweresa 45.9 (estimate), Vincent Mumo 59.2 (estimate) (fell), Boniface Tumuti 47.79, Alfas Kishoyan 48.01
Heat 2
1 2:58.87 BAH Ramon Miller 45.4, Demetrius Pinder 44.2, Michael Mathieu 44.78, Chris Brown 44.58
2 2:58.87 USA Manteo Mitchell 45.9, Joshua Mance 45.0, Tony McQuay 43.65, Bryshon Nellum 44.37
3 3:02.01 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.9, Denis Alekseyev 45.6, Vladimir Krasnov 45.38, Pavel Trenikhin 45.17
4 3:02.62 VEN Arturo Ramirez 45.4, Alberto Aguilar 46.2, Albert Bravo 45.59, José Meléndez 45.46
5 3:03.17 AUS Steven Solomon 45.4, Ben Offereins 46.7, Brendan Cole 45.48, John Steffensen 45.67
6 3:03.86 JPN Kei Takase 46.5, Yuzo Kanemaru 45.1, Yoshihiro Azuma 46.54, Hiroyuki Nakano 45.73
dnf JAM Dane Hyatt 46.1 (estimate) Riker Hylton 45.1 (estimate), Jermaine Gonzales dnf, Errol Nolan
dq 3:02.35 DOM Gustavo Cuesta 46.4 (estimate), Felix Sanchez 44.8 (estimate), Joel Mejia 46.88, Luguelin Santos 44.19
Ade Alleyne-Forte needs to run much faster than 46.12 on the 3rd leg in the final this evening otherwise our chance of a medal will be gone!
I guess this means that the relay management team believes Ade will do a better/quicker job on the 3rd leg than Cedenio then? :-\
Let's hope they are right as Ade was definitely the weakest link in our relay quad in the 4x400m relay Heats yesterday morning.
I believe GB has an extra half a second in them. I honestly believe it's between GB and TT for the Bronze.
However, TT hasn't had this good a chance in the 4x4 for a long time. J'ca is out, the US is riddle with injuries and even GB didn't expect to get into the finals.
VB
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I ain't too sure on the 3rd leg, but today he have to prove Everbody wrong
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Yes. Today is going to be a great day in T&T sports history.
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Yes. Today is going to be a great day in T&T sports history.
We are all hoping it is!
Together we aspire & together we achieve!
God bless our nation! :beermug:
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Jamaica 37.39 wtf.
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Gb pass that outside the zone
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ent aND NO BOLT
yeah seems that they did GB
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That was like a walk in d park 4 JA
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That was like a walk in d park 4 JA
That is a blistering time without Bolt and Asafa
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Great britain Disqualified...That time by Jamaica smdh
That time shattered T&T record..Jamaica is something else yes.
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Man calling we chance for Bronze yes..is like he mad or wha?
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Wtf Bledman, move he back to the start
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steups. we need to change that running order...poor last exchange too
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Wtf Bledman, move he back to the start
:worried:
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Hear nah Bledman real off form yes. Wey Sorillo? lol
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Keep Bledman on the blocks why change the order now? Put rt to finish
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They will change it. Bledman to lead is our best choice now.
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Not impressed by Bledman. He runs too much like a robot. A medal will be difficult on that evidence.
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Wtf Bledman, move he back to the start
Relay team needs to be back in the order of KB > MB >> EC > RT; please send them the memo NOW!!!
I will have more confidence in us having better passes and running a better time to hopefully secure at least a bronze medal in the final with our more regular order with RT anchoring!
Bledman is obviously not in the same form as he was before his injury!!
Please squash that experiment with RT leading off and Bledman anchoring as it slows us down! >:(
I am even prepared to consider Sorrillo leading off in place of Bledman in the final as his form has dropped off considerably since his injury!
Maybe we should go with the line up and order we had at Crystal Palace.
Hope we get a decent lane in the final but I doubt it now with that 3rd place run! >:(
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I wish to see the splits...what a poor last leg, he pulled it off at the very end PHEW!
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Bledman let dat Japanese pass him like an exam
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Bleds need to change that running action. Looks stiff
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve. We run almost a full second faster than we ever run this season.
Is Japan that was surprising. There best before now was 38.69.
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I wish to see the splits...what a poor last leg, he pulled it off at the very end PHEW!
Almost thought for a second we were out
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve.
Is Japan that was surprising.
Don't need a season best to see the last leg was shit. Time is irrelevant here
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Bledman let dat Japanese pass him like an exam
I feel he score total in dat exam.
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve.
Is Japan that was surprising.
Don't need a season best to see the last leg was shit. Time is irrelevant here
I'll wait til somebody better dan me break down how the other three do, instead of blaming de last person I see with the stick.
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve.
Is Japan that was surprising.
Don't need a season best to see the last leg was shit. Time is irrelevant here
I'll wait til somebody better dan me break down how the other three do, instead of blaming de last person I see with the stick.
the last exchange was bad I thought
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I thought Bledman did very well once he got the baton to surge past the crowd he was in.
The handoff slowed us down.
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I thought Bledman did very well once he got the baton to surge past the crowd he was in.
The handoff slowed us down.
might be that
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The man had a poor leg, this isn't about time here.
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve.
Is Japan that was surprising.
Don't need a season best to see the last leg was shit. Time is irrelevant here
I feel we will be much better off putting Bledman on the bench after that run and going with the same line-up and order that we had at Crystal Palace last month with Sorrillo > Burns >> Callendar >>> Thompson;
Bledman is obviously still overcoming his injury and needs more time on the bench to recover! :worried:
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve.
Is Japan that was surprising.
Don't need a season best to see the last leg was shit. Time is irrelevant here
I'll wait til somebody better dan me break down how the other three do, instead of blaming de last person I see with the stick.
the last exchange was bad I thought
Correct, he took off too slow, plus the man not accustom running last leg. Why do that experiment now in Olympics
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Ain't that our season best, though? Allyuh acting like we underachieve.
Is Japan that was surprising.
Don't need a season best to see the last leg was shit. Time is irrelevant here
I feel we will be much better off putting Bledman on the bench after that run and going with the same line-up and order that we had at Crystal Palace last month with Sorrillo > Burns >> Callendar >>> Thompson;
Bledman is obviously still overcoming his injury and needs more time on the bench to recover! :worried:
Nah, Bledmen was in 5th getting that baton. He got us into 3rd.
Last Olympics it was same thing, RT got us the silver. Basically, I agree switch RT and Bledman, but a lil too harsh on the guy. Bad exchange but he ran his a$$ off to ensure qualification. Keep him on for sure! but have him start
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Ato going and come down from the booth tonight and fix dem up man... doh panic allyuh
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Ato going and come down from the booth tonight and fix dem up man... doh panic allyuh
Dais what happen las time yes...why dey eh let Ato take charge ah we relay team is a mystery
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Why fix what ain't broken
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Ato going and come down from the booth tonight and fix dem up man... doh panic allyuh
Ato.. Fix dem.
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WHich one ah allyuh know Ato..call him now lol
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Bledman let dat Japanese pass him like an exam
The Japanese couldn't have passed Bledman as he received his baton ahead of Bledman.
VB
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Wow. Horrible lane in de final. Lane 9.
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At least reshuffle the order in the final if we feel Bledman is now back to his best!
Order for final should be Bledman > Burns >> Callendar >>> Thompson as we have had way more practise in that order and will therefore have smoother exchanges;
Now we have an extra obstacle to overcome in the final as I am sure we going to get one of the worse lanes with that 3rd place finish in our heat!
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37 point and we get bronze , we are capable of it.
Lane 9 ? wtf lard , how does that make sense?
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women coming up now
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Looks likes we will be running blind in the final tomorrow for most of the race tomorrow if we expect to medal!
http://www.iaaf.org/mini/oly12/Results/ResultsByDate.aspx?racedate=08-11-2012/sex=M/discCode=4X1/combCode=hash/roundCode=f/startlist.html#detM_4X1_hash_f
Startlist Men's 4x100m Relay - FINAL
Afternoon session
Final - Saturday 11 August 2012 - 21:00
Lane Team Country SB 2012 PB
2 Australia AUS 38.17 38.17
3 France FRA 38.15 37.79
4 Japan JPN 38.07 38.03
5 Canada CAN 38.05 37.69
6 Jamaica JAM 37.39 37.04
7 United States USA 37.38 37.38
8 Netherlands NED 38.29 38.29
9 Trinidad and Tobago TRI 38.10 37.62
If everything goes to form we will be competing with Japan for the bronze but they have the advantage because they can see us and we won't be able to see them!
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They know Bledman is not a finisher but good out the blocks plus he is injured-why are they guna put him on anchor leg I don't understand. I hope they change that line up with haste.
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First exchange mess up. Women DNF.
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f**k that. Kelly Ann went out rel hard. stueps
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FACK
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why why!!!!!!
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we out the womens
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D,H.W. yuh hae real goat mout breds lol hahahahahahaha
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First exchange mess up. Women DNF.
Well I eh miss nutten d French channel I on showin handball. Who medal?
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D,H.W. yuh hae real goat mout breds lol hahahahahahaha
what goat mouth?
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That time crazy though they crushed the East german dopers by a mile...Phew!
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D,H.W. yuh hae real goat mout breds lol hahahahahahaha
what goat mouth?
Any team you back does lorse...hahahahahahahahahaha Back Canada next wednesday eh lol
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We lorse a sure silver they we was good for a silver ..shit
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crap!
we were cursed in London from Day 1
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That time crazy though they crushed the East german dopers by a mile...Phew!
they on better drugs dais all
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D,H.W. yuh hae real goat mout breds lol hahahahahahaha
what goat mouth?
Any team you back does lorse...hahahahahahahahahaha Back Canada next wednesday eh lol
Stueps , not now please >:(
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So its official. We are slowly becoming one of the biggest underachievers in track...
Well I hope this changes. Still have a 4x400.
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steups... i ent too sure is DHW and i too vex to check back... but some arsehole was begging for other teams to drop de baton
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Say it eh so! Jeez! we f--king blight. what wrong with them ladies. They give ah trinity in disasterous DNF in the Olimpics. Man I really f--king sour now. I am absolutely sure I need some hair replacement. I already eh have down the middle of meh head. :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
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So pls give me d medalist
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steups... i ent too sure is DHW and i too vex to check back... but some arsehole was begging for other teams to drop de baton
exactly!
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D,H.W. yuh hae real goat mout breds lol hahahahahahaha
what goat mouth?
Any team you back does lorse...hahahahahahahahahaha Back Canada next wednesday eh lol
Stueps , not now please >:(
Oh gosh ah seriously was going to ask you to post that yuh backing the USA..lol Take it easy doh buss ah vein...is jes a game right?
It looks like Kelly left early...
That was Ryan ah think lol
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:cursing: :cursing: ah boy , stueps. What Kelly try there? i see she fly out miles in front
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Ryan yuh facking arsehole (http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/madfawk.gif)
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So pls give me d medalist
1 United States 40.82 WR
2 Jamaica 41.41 NR
3 Ukraine 42.04 NR
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I feel it for the women. Ah well.
That women's time is ridiculous doh. Imagine if she ran all out.
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Don't do that please, it might boomerang our way!!
lol
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United States women set a new world record in the 4x100 relay
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That is hard, I don't wish that baton drop on anybody.
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My heart was skipping beats right after Michelle received the baton. This remind me of heart attack football.
Dont worry. We not blight. We got this in the 4x400.
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Disappointments... I honestly don't know if we'll ever medal in the 4x1 women's hmmm
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So pls give me d medalist
1 United States 40.82 WR
2 Jamaica 41.41 NR
3 Ukraine 42.04 NR
ThxsDisappointments... I honestly don't know if we'll ever medal in the 4x1 women's hmmm
we like d US men team we does find a way 2 blow it
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Cudders Month :frustrated: :cursing:
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Cudders Month :frustrated: :cursing:
lol allyuh taking this hard boss...we would have to real fight up with Ukraine...lol is not de man fault ..ok f**k he is he fault hahahahaha
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BaTON EH DROP she run out de lane..at elast thats what i thought I saw
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Ah vex!!!!!!
1st ting ah had to present at wuk and culd not watch de damn race, come to see dis nonsense, royally pissed!!
what happen, who messed up, lawd, wha vibes, wha a%$hole vibes!!!
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Cudders Month :frustrated: :cursing:
lol allyuh taking this hard boss...we would have to real fight up with Ukraine...lol is not de man fault ..ok f**k he is he fault hahahahaha
Ban him from the board!!!!!
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So anyone REALLY know what exactly happened?
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So anyone REALLY know what exactly happened?
Batton never reached Kelly hand, think she ran off to early
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It appears that we ran out the passing lane, no baton appeared to drop...To me it appears that Kelly took off too early.
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So pls give me d medalist
1 United States 40.82 WR
2 Jamaica 41.41 NR
3 Ukraine 42.04 NR
42.31 NR Trinidad
We would of had to run the race of our life to beat Ukraine
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Yeah it looked like that. Probably took off with the intention to run the race of her life.....so the intent was there but didnt work out. Nothing you can say other than hard luck.
Who knows what could have happened. They set a NR yesterday.....they coulda set a new one today.
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I real vex.....what the hell happened??!! The frigging TV screen was fixed on the de US and JA teams so all I saw for a brief moment was Michelle Ahye with the baton in her hand stomping her feet in frustration and every body else long gone.....what happened there??
Kelly Ann just didn't receive the baton?? Since yesterday the change between Kelly Ann and I'm not sure who else was not smooth......steups.....ah vex......
:frustrated: :frustrated: :banginghead: :banginghead: :cursing: :cursing:
Oh gosh man......come on fellas, ah cyar believe is one medal we coming back with man......come on!!!!
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So anyone REALLY know what exactly happened?
Batton never reached Kelly hand, think she ran off to early
Yes, that's what I thought I saw but people were saying a baton was dropped and I was confused.
Ent it was the change over from 1st to 2nd?
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So its official. We are slowly becoming one of the biggest underachievers in track...
Well I hope this changes. Still have a 4x400.
Agreed, that where it was expected, we underachieve! Jamaica sit on dey ass all the time until everyone watching...then they shine.
T&Twhen it's time to shine dey run back in dey shell.
I might be just vex but this pill worse to swallow than any football team disappointment. We should be grateful we get a bronze this Olympics. So what we reach finals? 4 years ago, we thinking this go be a big Olympics, well it come and we in worse shape....
Enough of the jump up and carnival! It's getting embarrassing! :pissedoff:
No wonder a senior member of meh family say "The only people that think we all that is we!"
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Not impossible we had a very decent lead off...sad...I thought we were right in line with Ukraine when the unthinkable happened...sigh~~~~~~~
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So pls give me d medalist
1 United States 40.82 WR
2 Jamaica 41.41 NR
3 Ukraine 42.04 NR
42.31 NR Trinidad
We would of had to run the race of our life to beat Ukraine
thxs
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Not impossible we had a very decent lead off...sad...I thought we were right in line with Ukraine when the unthinkable happened...sigh~~~~~~~
But some joker on fb sayin Michelle should nt have strted she not fast enuff
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Semoy look real vex, eh blame she, I wulda be damn vex too
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So anyone REALLY know what exactly happened?
Batton never reached Kelly hand, think she ran off to early
Yes, that's what I thought I saw but people were saying a baton was dropped and I was confused.
Ent it was the change over from 1st to 2nd?
I didn't see what happened at first. It wasn't until the last hand over I realised there was no baton and I just assumed it was dropped sometime before then I saw the replay with Michelle still holding on to it.....steups!!! Ah vex.....
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Not impossible we had a very decent lead off...sad...I thought we were right in line with Ukraine when the unthinkable happened...sigh~~~~~~~
Yeah thats right. Michelle did a lot to cover ground on the Ukrainian.
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So anyone REALLY know what exactly happened?
Batton never reached Kelly hand, think she ran off to early
Yes, that's what I thought I saw but people were saying a baton was dropped and I was confused.
Ent it was the change over from 1st to 2nd?
Yes
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BaTON EH DROP she run out de lane..at elast thats what i thought I saw
same thing... fack up vibes come and boomerang on we :cursing:
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So anyone REALLY know what exactly happened?
Batton never reached Kelly hand, think she ran off to early
Yes, that's what I thought I saw but people were saying a baton was dropped and I was confused.
Ent it was the change over from 1st to 2nd?
Yes
ok ok so I was right.
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Sending 'drop the baton' vibes to JA and USA from now ;D
Cudders Month :frustrated: :cursing:
lol allyuh taking this hard boss...we would have to real fight up with Ukraine...lol is not de man fault ..ok f**k he is he fault hahahahaha
Ban him from the board!!!!!
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The baton wasnt dropped....they left the zone. They were willing but things happen under pressure.
First leg was decent....the handover was the problem....cant be changed now. I almost 100% certain that had those hand overs been done properly we could have run a new NR at least.
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Long time I eh do this.....
[42.31 NR Trinidad and TOBAGO
We would of had to run the race of our life to beat Ukraine
Thanks to the lil sister isle eh......she son give we de only medal so far....... :waiting: :waiting:
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Not impossible we had a very decent lead off...sad...I thought we were right in line with Ukraine when the unthinkable happened...sigh~~~~~~~
But some joker on fb sayin Michelle should nt have strted she not fast enuff
person dont know jack shit
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Long time I eh do this.....
[42.31 NR Trinidad and TOBAGO
We would of had to run the race of our life to beat Ukraine
Thanks to the lil sister isle eh......she son give we de only medal so far....... :waiting: :waiting:
Sorry ;D
Men going and run now
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Long time I eh do this.....
[42.31 NR Trinidad and TOBAGO
We would of had to run the race of our life to beat Ukraine
Thanks to the lil sister isle eh......she son give we de only medal so far....... :waiting: :waiting:
Sorry ;D
Men going and run now
ent you backing USA???
Jes type yes for me nah Please???
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I real gutted. I really wanted our woman to erase the duck egg of no medals in the Olimpics. They had 2 real chances and they messed up. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
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De Bahamian running good boy!!!!
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3rd leg run yet? he get he arse in gear??
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f**k yeh Bronze
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Ah wish Renny Quow was in this race!!!! Good run by the bahamian!!!!
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f**k Yeh
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3rd leg run yet? he get he arse in gear??
LOL yeh he run the race of his life
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YEAH BIATCHES!!
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BRONZE!!!!!!
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4x4 gone thru also?
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Bronze in the 4x4 Deeks
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Ah just glad the Bahamian smoke out the US arse........oh yeah and we get Bronze.....again.....*sigh* Renny boy why yuh had to sprain the hamstring boy......*sigh*
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2:59.40 BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah just glad the Bahamian smoke out the US arse........oh yeah and we get Bronze.....again.....*sigh* Renny boy why yuh had to sprain the hamstring boy......*sigh*
Yankee go Home !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Man almost lose de bronze yes!
Well that help a bit....so we a 400m country now
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NR too fuss time under 3 minutes for T&T...not so?
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Man almost lose de bronze yes!
Well that help a bit....so we a 400m country now
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NR too fuss time under 3 minutes for T&T...not so?
Yes
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II believe we could have done better than Ukraine. From the time Michelle held onto the Ukrainian I knew if KAB got that baton it would be over pity we didn't. All the best for next year aye... KAB must be hurting-3rd Olympics this has happened. She needs to keep strong!
Well done bronze to the men! If we had Renny we coulda done better but shoulda woulda coulda I'm proud of them for winning a medal!
I just realized NR woop woop!!!
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Man almost lose de bronze yes!
Well that help a bit....so we a 400m country now
Always been brother, check your history. I still believe Cedenio would have run a stronger 3rd leg to keep us in closer contact with the first 2. That coach had no balls to make the decision. Thanks for the bronze, equals the feat in 1964
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Ah still have a sour taste in mih mouth from the 4 x 100 women's relay.....ah cyar bring mih self to celebrate the 4 x 400 bronze yet the ah want to.....
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Bronze in the 4x4 Deeks
Thanks man!. But meh Princesses leh me dong, man. Honestly if they alone had win I would have been satisfied. Eveybody else does win except them. :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
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It looks like Lalonde was tired YET...with pure grit and determination he led us through a very good and important lead off.
this fella is the real facking deal.
As for Cedenio..I think the coaches decision has been vindicated.
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Anyway for the Yanke haters, they jes letting Bahamas borrow that goldmedal, it is a testament to their strength and depth that they even competed for gold.
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Ah still have a sour taste in mih mouth from the 4 x 100 women's relay.....ah cyar bring mih self to celebrate the 4 x 400 bronze yet the ah want to.....
ent!
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BS - Vindicate doh make it right.
Just to make it fair, a week from now after Alleyne-Forte rests up, I bet Cedenio will beat the pants off of Alleyne-Forte in an open 400m, he did so in the Nat'l Champs and should have taken his rightful place in the relay.
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Bronze to TT in the 4x4.
Great run by Forte to keep us in it and not lose ground. SSSHEEEEWWW!!! ;D
Oh and a new national record. 2:59:40
Well done fellas. :beermug: :beermug:
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Congrats to the 4x400m team, come folks, divorce the two, those guys did well. As for the 4x100m women, I think we need to get a bush bath going and I serious, nuttin else doh seem to be wukkin
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Ah just glad the Bahamian smoke out the US arse........oh yeah and we get Bronze.....again.....*sigh* Renny boy why yuh had to sprain the hamstring boy......*sigh*
Long time after I realize dat was only willin d fella 2 hold on.
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BS - Vindicate doh make it right.
Just to make it fair, a week from now, I bet Cedenio will beat the pants off of Alleyne-Forte in an open 400m, he did so in the Nat'l Champs and should have taken his rightful place in the relay.
Yuh know if the boy 100% yuh have no clue..the coach's decison has been vindicated once we medal then he right.
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Anyway for the Yanke haters, they jes letting Bahamas borrow that goldmedal, it is a testament to their strength and depth that they even competed for gold.
doh spoil we thread please.
Congrats fellas. good run!
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Anyway for the Yanke haters, they jes letting Bahamas borrow that goldmedal, it is a testament to their strength and depth that they even competed for gold.
Lalonde definitely has to go down as one of our greatest athletes. He definitely showed his leadership qualities to captain T&T to our first medals in the 400 and 4x400 in almost 40 years. The government BETTER recognize this guy in the same manner as they recognized Thompson.
Congrats 4x400 team. You gave us hope after seeing the women foul up.
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Anyway for the Yanke haters, they jes letting Bahamas borrow that goldmedal, it is a testament to their strength and depth that they even competed for gold.
Yeah, yeah, whatever..... ::) ::)
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BS - Vindicate doh make it right.
Just to make it fair, a week from now, I bet Cedenio will beat the pants off of Alleyne-Forte in an open 400m, he did so in the Nat'l Champs and should have taken his rightful place in the relay.
Yuh know if the boy 100% yuh have no clue..the coach's decison has been vindicated once we medal then he right.
Not to belabour the point, the Express reporter would have reported as much (Cedenio off form), especially since they mentioned that Alleyne-Forte's leg gave up position in the semis.
Anyway I hope Cedenio gets an opportunity 4 years from now if we still have a strong contingent, because things can happen.
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Gordon , double Bronze medalist :applause: Only a few Athletes have left Olympics with two medals for TT
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>:( :( :banginghead:
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Gordon , double Bronze medalist :applause: Only a few Athletes have left Olympics with two medals for TT
Very true, certainly a pleasant surprise, instead of the usual hard luck, good try, next time story
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Gordon , double Bronze medalist :applause: Only a few Athletes have left Olympics with two medals for TT
Mottley, Ato, RT, Lalonde
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Solomon did an awesome job. He will be running low 45 and sub 45 soon. His split has to be close to sub 45.
Alleyene-Forte did well. Certainly redeemed himself from yesterday.
Lendore is going to be a star soon.
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Gordon , double Bronze medalist :applause: Only a few Athletes have left Olympics with two medals for TT
Mottley, Ato, RT, Lalonde, Edwin Roberts (bronze - 200m and 4x400m)
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Who is the red man on the second leg? He run like a beast
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Gordon , double Bronze medalist :applause: Only a few Athletes have left Olympics with two medals for TT
Mottley, Ato, RT, Lalonde
Deek ah tink yuh forget Roberts 200m and 4x400m --- Tokyo
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Who is the red man on the second leg? He run like a beast
That is Solomon...
Look for Gordon and Solomon to get invites for World Challenge and Diamond league
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Real roller-coaster ting boy! I feel emotionally drained, that is how it is supporting T&T sports.
Congrats men and women, I know the ladies must be feelin it but that will make them hungry for the next time.
Salute to our athletes, I feel like I out on the track with them every time I see the flag.
:wavetowel: :salute:
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f**king TV6 cut the feed after to show commercial stueps
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Gordon , double Bronze medalist :applause: Only a few Athletes have left Olympics with two medals for TT
Mottley, Ato, RT, Lalonde, Edwin Roberts (bronze - 200m and 4x400m)
You are correct. I totally missed out Edwin. I tootoolbay after hearing the women results. I still can't get over our ladies. I love then too bad. I could cry!!!
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Who would have predicted that T&T would have medalled in the 4x400m relay final before this Olympics?
Most would have been satisfied with us just making the 4x400m relay final.
A pity our 4x100m Women couldn't get the baton round safely ie. ran out of zone on the first exchange.
Our ladies all need a big hug but I think they should definitely be in the mix for World Champs next year especially if they all can get individually faster between now and next season. Hold your heads up ladies, we still love you for reppin the red white and black with pride and maximum effort.
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Gordon hv 2 b d find of d century he has d heart of a champion
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Gordon hv 2 b d find of d century he has d heart of a champion
Tobago!
There is something happening in Tobago... Not as much in Trini.. Or not as much as it used to.
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Gordon hv 2 b d find of d century he has d heart of a champion
Tobago!
There is something happening in Tobago... Not as much in Trini.. Or not as much as it used to.
Toco have it goin on btw d French now show d race but only show Jetta and them breaking d WR
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Gordon hv 2 b d find of d century he has d heart of a champion
Tobago!
There is something happening in Tobago... Not as much in Trini.. Or not as much as it used to.
Toco have it goin on btw d French now show d race but only show Jetta and them breaking d WR
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Well there is nothing for me to see in that race. I was rooting for JA
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now watching the 4x100m , bledman took off rel slow dread, the man jog out
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now watching the 4x100m , bledman took off rel slow dread, the man jog out
He doh seem like ah he self at all, seriously, he made a comment that he had to pump himself up for the 100m heats which I don't quite understand unless he was misquoted, too young for a mid-life crisis, hope there is no tabanktruck involved
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Anyone got the splits for the 4x400? I assume everyone improved significantly. Alleyne-Forte must have run a sub 46 split. Solomon probably ran low or sub 45. Gordon and Lendore sub 45.
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I don't want to rain on the Tobago Gordon parade, but he man spend half he life in Queens. So we may have to big up the borough and the high he went to.
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Gordon hv 2 b d find of d century he has d heart of a champion
Tobago!
There is something happening in Tobago... Not as much in Trini.. Or not as much as it used to.
It is what NOT happening on in Tobago and Toco - like too much processed foods, pizza, and excessive beers and fete-ing. Them youths still eating healthy ground provision and fresh fish, while the dans in Trinidad poisoning they body with Royal Castle, etc daily.
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I don't want to rain on the Tobago Gordon parade, but he man spend half he life in Queens. So we may have to big up the borough and the high he went to.
No way. TNT moment now. :D
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I don't want to rain on the Tobago Gordon parade, but he man spend half he life in Queens. So we may have to big up the borough and the high he went to.
:shameonyou: :shameonyou:
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steups... i ent too sure is DHW and i too vex to check back... but some arsehole was begging for other teams to drop de baton
exactly!
Careful what you ask for eh.. When you dig a hole for others you might as well dig one fuh yuh self too
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Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Heats
(courtesy Mark Butler)
Heat 1
1 3:00.38 TRI Lalonde Gordon 44.2, Jarrin Solomon 45.5, Ade Alleyne-Forte 46.12, Deon Lendore 44.49
2 3:00.38 GBR Nigel Levine 45.8, Conrad Williams 45.4, Jack Green 44.42, Martyn Rooney 44.84
3 3:00.55 CUB William Collazo 46.6, Raidel Acea 43.9, Orestes Rodríguez 45.19, Omar Cisneros 44.89
4 3:01.70 BEL Nils Duerinck 47.2, Jonathan Borlée 44.2, Antoine Gillet 46.10, Kevin Borlée 44.24
5 3:02.86 POL Piotr Wiaderek 46.1, Marcin Marciniszyn 45.5, Michal Pietrzak 45.19, Kacper Kozlowski 46.13
6 3:03.50 GER Jonas Plass 46.6, Kamghe Gaba 45.6, Eric Krüger 45.47, Thomas Schneider 45.92
dnf RSA Shaun de Jager 46.7 (estimate), Ofentse Mogawane dnf (Oscar Pistorius & Willem de Beer
dq 3:21.01 KEN Boniface Mweresa 45.9 (estimate), Vincent Mumo 59.2 (estimate) (fell), Boniface Tumuti 47.79, Alfas Kishoyan 48.01
Heat 2
1 2:58.87 BAH Ramon Miller 45.4, Demetrius Pinder 44.2, Michael Mathieu 44.78, Chris Brown 44.58
2 2:58.87 USA Manteo Mitchell 45.9, Joshua Mance 45.0, Tony McQuay 43.65, Bryshon Nellum 44.37
3 3:02.01 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.9, Denis Alekseyev 45.6, Vladimir Krasnov 45.38, Pavel Trenikhin 45.17
4 3:02.62 VEN Arturo Ramirez 45.4, Alberto Aguilar 46.2, Albert Bravo 45.59, José Meléndez 45.46
5 3:03.17 AUS Steven Solomon 45.4, Ben Offereins 46.7, Brendan Cole 45.48, John Steffensen 45.67
6 3:03.86 JPN Kei Takase 46.5, Yuzo Kanemaru 45.1, Yoshihiro Azuma 46.54, Hiroyuki Nakano 45.73
dnf JAM Dane Hyatt 46.1 (estimate) Riker Hylton 45.1 (estimate), Jermaine Gonzales dnf, Errol Nolan
dq 3:02.35 DOM Gustavo Cuesta 46.4 (estimate), Felix Sanchez 44.8 (estimate), Joel Mejia 46.88, Luguelin Santos 44.19
Hey STMB, we need some more official splits like above for the Men's 4x400m Relay Final today!
I think we need to big up all our athletes for their individual splits to see who improved from the Heats and by how much!
Congrats to the guys on the 4x400m relay Olympic bronze once again! :beermug:
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The rivalry on the track continue as of right now
US have won gold in the womens 200m, 400m , 4x100 relay, mens 110 m hurdles
Jamaica have won gold in the mens 100m, 200m and womens 100m
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BS - Vindicate doh make it right.
Just to make it fair, a week from now after Alleyne-Forte rests up, I bet Cedenio will beat the pants off of Alleyne-Forte in an open 400m, he did so in the Nat'l Champs and should have taken his rightful place in the relay.
Juss kyah please some folks nah ! we get a bronze which is a major achievement taking into account our main 400 metres hope got injured and did not run, what allyuh wanted ..Ah bigger bronze If we did put in Cedenio ? T&T really punched way above their weight on this one ..the guys really came through yet some of us trying to minimise the effort ? Come nah man ...enjoy de moment nah .... Britain eh get nothing here ..and dey home ...jamaica neither ....
Some of us doh realise our track stars does read the comments here ...RT is a fan I know and i am sure many others are ...it is kinda deflating to make these kind of statements when we have achieved beyond realistic expectations.
Now I hope you realise that Cedenio is not yet 17 years old . You know what his mind was like for this ? a boy not yet 17 was left out of the world cup at home ...remember the comment of the coach ? ...I felt the burden of expectation would have been too much for someone so young even though he was doing things on the bench others could not ....... Cedenio is a great prospect but he has had a long season and he is very young for this type of pressure ....pop a cork relax and enjoy the moment ....the management who are on spot made the right choice ...we have a medal to show for it.
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Good talk Jai, well done to this team, really proud of them
Anyone have the splits for the 4x100m men heat today? Would be curious to see our splits. Let's get that 3rd track medal tomorrow guys!
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Not impressed by Bledman. He runs too much like a robot. A medal will be difficult on that evidence.
Sad to say :( . T&T's Oscar Pistorius. Just my take with no meaning what so ever.
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BS - Vindicate doh make it right.
Just to make it fair, a week from now after Alleyne-Forte rests up, I bet Cedenio will beat the pants off of Alleyne-Forte in an open 400m, he did so in the Nat'l Champs and should have taken his rightful place in the relay.
Juss kyah please some folks nah ! we get a bronze which is a major achievement taking into account our main 400 metres hope got injured and did not run, what allyuh wanted ..Ah bigger bronze If we did put in Cedenio ? T&T really punched way above their weight on this one ..the guys really came through yet some of us trying to minimise the effort ? Come nah man ...enjoy de moment nah .... Britain eh get nothing here ..and dey home ...jamaica neither ....
Some of us doh realise our track stars does read the comments here ...RT is a fan I know and i am sure many others are ...it is kinda deflating to make these kind of statements when we have achieved beyond realistic expectations.
Now I hope you realise that Cedenio is not yet 17 years old . You know what his mind was like for this ? a boy not yet 17 was left out of the world cup at home ...remember the comment of the coach ? ...I felt the burden of expectation would have been too much for someone so young even though he was doing things on the bench others could not ....... Cedenio is a great prospect but he has had a long season and he is very young for this type of pressure ....pop a cork relax and enjoy the moment ....the management who are on spot made the right choice ...we have a medal to show for it.
Vex??? I happy we win bronze.
Guess who vex - Cedenio, the young man beat Ade in the National Championships but will return home empty handed as he did not compete.
Put yourself in those shoes after training hard all year and claiming your spot fairly only to be side stepped because of ageism, and tell me if you would have the same opinion as you do from your armchair.
You sure T&T will have a contending team in 2016? You sure Cedenio will improve linearly?
Had they run him in the final the result would most likely have been the same place-wise (we would have run faster with him), but at least he would have something to show for his efforts preparing for this opportunity.
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I don't want to rain on the Tobago Gordon parade, but he man spend half he life in Queens. So we may have to big up the borough and the high he went to.
:shameonyou: :shameonyou:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Heats
(courtesy Mark Butler)
Heat 1
1 3:00.38 TRI Lalonde Gordon 44.2, Jarrin Solomon 45.5, Ade Alleyne-Forte 46.12, Deon Lendore 44.49
2 3:00.38 GBR Nigel Levine 45.8, Conrad Williams 45.4, Jack Green 44.42, Martyn Rooney 44.84
3 3:00.55 CUB William Collazo 46.6, Raidel Acea 43.9, Orestes Rodríguez 45.19, Omar Cisneros 44.89
4 3:01.70 BEL Nils Duerinck 47.2, Jonathan Borlée 44.2, Antoine Gillet 46.10, Kevin Borlée 44.24
5 3:02.86 POL Piotr Wiaderek 46.1, Marcin Marciniszyn 45.5, Michal Pietrzak 45.19, Kacper Kozlowski 46.13
6 3:03.50 GER Jonas Plass 46.6, Kamghe Gaba 45.6, Eric Krüger 45.47, Thomas Schneider 45.92
dnf RSA Shaun de Jager 46.7 (estimate), Ofentse Mogawane dnf (Oscar Pistorius & Willem de Beer
dq 3:21.01 KEN Boniface Mweresa 45.9 (estimate), Vincent Mumo 59.2 (estimate) (fell), Boniface Tumuti 47.79, Alfas Kishoyan 48.01
Heat 2
1 2:58.87 BAH Ramon Miller 45.4, Demetrius Pinder 44.2, Michael Mathieu 44.78, Chris Brown 44.58
2 2:58.87 USA Manteo Mitchell 45.9, Joshua Mance 45.0, Tony McQuay 43.65, Bryshon Nellum 44.37
3 3:02.01 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.9, Denis Alekseyev 45.6, Vladimir Krasnov 45.38, Pavel Trenikhin 45.17
4 3:02.62 VEN Arturo Ramirez 45.4, Alberto Aguilar 46.2, Albert Bravo 45.59, José Meléndez 45.46
5 3:03.17 AUS Steven Solomon 45.4, Ben Offereins 46.7, Brendan Cole 45.48, John Steffensen 45.67
6 3:03.86 JPN Kei Takase 46.5, Yuzo Kanemaru 45.1, Yoshihiro Azuma 46.54, Hiroyuki Nakano 45.73
dnf JAM Dane Hyatt 46.1 (estimate) Riker Hylton 45.1 (estimate), Jermaine Gonzales dnf, Errol Nolan
dq 3:02.35 DOM Gustavo Cuesta 46.4 (estimate), Felix Sanchez 44.8 (estimate), Joel Mejia 46.88, Luguelin Santos 44.19
Hey STMB, we need some more official splits like above for the Men's 4x400m Relay Final today!
I think we need to big up all our athletes for their individual splits to see who improved from the Heats and by how much!
Congrats to the guys on the 4x400m relay Olympic bronze once again! :beermug:
Haven't seen any splits yet, whomever comes by them first, please post.
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Anyway for the Yanke haters, theywe jes letting Bahamas borrow that goldmedal, it is a testament to their our strength and depth that they we even competed for gold.
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Ah miss everything today, ah vex :cursing:....have to take in the men's 4x100m live now! 3 bronze medals will not be bad at all, if we can get lucky and take a silver, I'm good with that too ;D
In de words of Big Mag....hand de button
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Splits by my watch:
Lalonde-44.65
Jarrin- 44.37
Ade-45.63
Lendore-44.66
So Ade improved just enough from yesterday but now I know with a healthy Quow, this team could run a second faster.
Anyways bigups once more fellas :beermug: :beermug:
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Splits by my watch:
Lalonde-44.65
Jarrin- 44.37
Ade-45.63
Lendore-44.66
So Ade improved just enough from yesterday but now I know with a healthy Quow, this team could run a second faster.
Anyways bigups once more fellas :beermug: :beermug:
You're right. Actually with a healthy Quow at least a second faster. However, looking at the final times, even with Quow we would've only gotten Bronze.
VB
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BS - Vindicate doh make it right.
Just to make it fair, a week from now after Alleyne-Forte rests up, I bet Cedenio will beat the pants off of Alleyne-Forte in an open 400m, he did so in the Nat'l Champs and should have taken his rightful place in the relay.
Juss kyah please some folks nah ! we get a bronze which is a major achievement taking into account our main 400 metres hope got injured and did not run, what allyuh wanted ..Ah bigger bronze If we did put in Cedenio ? T&T really punched way above their weight on this one ..the guys really came through yet some of us trying to minimise the effort ? Come nah man ...enjoy de moment nah .... Britain eh get nothing here ..and dey home ...jamaica neither ....
Some of us doh realise our track stars does read the comments here ...RT is a fan I know and i am sure many others are ...it is kinda deflating to make these kind of statements when we have achieved beyond realistic expectations.
Now I hope you realise that Cedenio is not yet 17 years old . You know what his mind was like for this ? a boy not yet 17 was left out of the world cup at home ...remember the comment of the coach ? ...I felt the burden of expectation would have been too much for someone so young even though he was doing things on the bench others could not ....... Cedenio is a great prospect but he has had a long season and he is very young for this type of pressure ....pop a cork relax and enjoy the moment ....the management who are on spot made the right choice ...we have a medal to show for it.
Vex??? I happy we win bronze.
Guess who vex - Cedenio, the young man beat Ade in the National Championships but will return home empty handed as he did not compete.
Put yourself in those shoes after training hard all year and claiming your spot fairly only to be side stepped because of ageism, and tell me if you would have the same opinion as you do from your armchair.
You sure T&T will have a contending team in 2016? You sure Cedenio will improve linearly?
Had they run him in the final the result would most likely have been the same place-wise (we would have run faster with him), but at least he would have something to show for his efforts preparing for this opportunity.
Dont miss the forest for the trees !
the same argument you are making can be used aginst you ......you sure cedenio would have done better ? can you say for certain that we would be celebrating a bronze medal today if he replaced Ade ? i deal in the real ...facts !! we won a bronze ..fact ! I dont see you making the same statement about Sorillo being replaced by Burns in the relay ...selective memory ? Sorillo beat Burns in the nationals you know ..I as there . You must realise that there are coaches who are on spot and have to make the decisions ...you can ask them to justify them but until you do that you should not critisize them especially when w have just broken anational record ...twice ...with that team ! if you cant see this then you are missing the forest ...
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I wasn't to impress with Keston Bledman, he didn't look comfortable.
Maybe he had a bad day ?
Richard Thompson should run the last leg ?
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I wasn't to impress with Keston Bledman, he didn't look comfortable.
Maybe he had a bad day ?
Richard Thompson should run the last leg ?
Agreed
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I wasn't to impress with Keston Bledman, he didn't look comfortable.
Maybe he had a bad day ?
Richard Thompson should run the last leg ?
Agreed
DHW, yuh have de splits for de heats? We talkin bout Bledman but wuld be curious to know what he ran in the heats (and others) particularly since he covered some ground from 5th? to 3rd
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I wasn't to impress with Keston Bledman, he didn't look comfortable.
Maybe he had a bad day ?
Richard Thompson should run the last leg ?
Agreed
DHW, yuh have de splits for de heats? We talkin bout Bledman but wuld be curious to know what he ran in the heats (and others) particularly since he covered some ground from 5th? to 3rd
Nah don't have them, but from looking at the video he got the batton around the same time with everyone else. The mistake he made was he did not run out hard. Callander was all up on the man back when the batton changed.
I think it's inexperience, but who bright idea was it to experiment at the Olympics, now is not the time to experiment, it almost cost us.
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:beermug:
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The way the dice rolling for T&T this Olympics I might have to put my money on the unexpected:
Expected medal from KAB, got bronze from LG
Expected medal from women's 4x100m, got bronze from men's 4x400m
Expecting medal from men's 4x100m, maybe we'll get a surprise from KW - hope we get the whole basket!
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Anybody know how Walcott doing?
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Anybody know how Walcott doing?
2.15 EST/AST start time
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Splits by my watch:
Lalonde-44.65
Jarrin- 44.37
Ade-45.63
Lendore-44.66
So Ade improved just enough from yesterday but now I know with a healthy Quow, this team could run a second faster.
Anyways bigups once more fellas :beermug: :beermug:
Nice one! :beermug:
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The way the dice rolling for T&T this Olympics I might have to put my money on the unexpected:
Expected medal from KAB, got bronze from LG
Expected medal from women's 4x100m, got bronze from men's 4x400m
Expecting medal from men's 4x100m, maybe we'll get a surprise from KW - hope we get the whole basket!
THERE I SAID IT. SURRRPRRRISE!!! GOLD!!
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The way the dice rolling for T&T this Olympics I might have to put my money on the unexpected:
Expected medal from KAB, got bronze from LG
Expected medal from women's 4x100m, got bronze from men's 4x400m
Expecting medal from men's 4x100m, maybe we'll get a surprise from KW - hope we get the whole basket!
THERE I SAID IT. SURRRPRRRISE!!! GOLD!!
Yuh really did eh STMB, ah jus hope doh we come strong still in de 4x100 and mount de mudda so and so podium
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The rivalry on the track continue because as of right now
US have won gold in the womens 200m, 400m , 4x100 relay, mens 110 m hurdles
Jamaica have won gold in the mens 100m, 200m and womens 100m
American women just won the 4x400 relay, so add that Gold to the list and rivalry
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Order on the website says Bledman leads, and Thompson anchors. Thank God!
Oh yeah.... Well F*c%in done Keshorn!!!! Lawd I happy!
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Stress now
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What happen with the last handoff?!??!!?!
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How de ass Canada win...
It was that last exchange. I think there might have been an error.
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Bronze for Trinidad
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We were in third before the handoff WDF ah gutted.
Wait Canada DQ????
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We got third . Canada DQ
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Bronze!!!!!!!!!!
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WE GET THE BRONZE!!!
Canada got Disqualified
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If we had a better lane we would have beaten Canada outright anyway! :beermug:
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Anybody know the reason for the DQ?
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Jarred stepped on the line
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Anybody know the reason for the DQ?
white boy run out he lane for Canada
we go take it!
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That last handoff almost make me shoot myself.
Well we flukes the bronze and I glad. But a proper handoff and that Bronze would have been easy peasy.
RT literally had to stop running and look behind him and grab the baton. ::)
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Anybody know the reason for the DQ?
I think Canada exchanged outside their zone on one of their exchanges or ran into someone else's lane!
Will confirm later but I think Canada is still suffering from the Ben Johnson curse! ;)
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If we had a better lane we would have beaten Canada outright anyway! :beermug:
It had nothing to do with the lane. Richard left too early, or else we would have never been in that position.
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Anybody know the reason for the DQ?
I think Canada exchanged outside their zone on one of their exachanges or ran into someone else's lane!
Will confirm, later! Canada still suffering from the Ben Johnson curse! ;)
3rd leg mash the lane for canada
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If we had a better lane we would have beaten Canada outright anyway! :beermug:
It had nothing to do with the lane. Richard left too early, or else we would have never been in that position.
I nearly say we make the same mistake in two days yes
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Is this our most successful Olympics ever? It's our best single day I'm sure.
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If we had a better lane we would have beaten Canada outright anyway! :beermug:
It had nothing to do with the lane. Richard left too early, or else we would have never been in that position.
I was scared when i saw him take off
If we had a better lane we would have beaten Canada outright anyway! :beermug:
It had nothing to do with the lane. Richard left too early, or else we would have never been in that position.
I nearly say we make the same mistake in two days yes
ENT
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Is this our most successful Olympics ever? It's our best single day I'm sure.
You have to ask that ;D
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The rivalry on the track continue because as of right now
US have won gold in the womens 200m, 400m , 4x100 relay, mens 110 m hurdles
Jamaica have won gold in the mens 100m, 200m and womens 100m
American women just won the 4x400 relay, so add that Gold to the list and rivalry
Jamaica won the 4 x 100..so in terms of track this Olympics will end with US = 5 gold, Jamaica 4 gold...
Kenya also has Two Gold, and Mo Farah bring home two Gold for the British on the track
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Congrats to Walcott on the Javelin
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We are much better than 38.12, but will take the bronze nonetheless, have to brush up on our 4x100s for the future, congrats fellas!!
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Anybody know the reason for the DQ?
I think Canada exchanged outside their zone on one of their exchanges or ran into someone else's lane!
Will confirm later but I think Canada is still suffering from the Ben Johnson curse! ;)
Nah man, remember they won gold in the 100m and 4x100m in 1996?
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most successful olympics ever for us...hopefully we can build on it.
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We are much better than 38.12, but will take the bronze nonetheless, have to brush up on our 4x100s for the future, congrats fellas!!
RT take off wayyy to fast
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We are much better than 38.12, but will take the bronze nonetheless, have to brush up on our 4x100s for the future, congrats fellas!!
RT take off wayyy to fast
Watchi is again, Callendar deccelerate too fast, RT take off when EC enter the zone
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ONDON—Canada has been disqualified from the final of the men's 4x100-metre relay at the London Olympics after initially appearing to win the bronze medal.
The team of Gavin Smellie of Brampton, Ont., Ottawa's Oluseyi Smith, Jared Connaughton of New Haven, P.E.I., and anchor Justyn Warner of Markham, Ont., brought out the Maple Leaf to celebrate after posting a time of 38.07 seconds.
But the team was disqualified after it appeared Connaughton stepped out of his lane.
The DQ gave the bronze to Trinidad and Tobago, leaving the Canadians doubled over on the track in tears.
Jamaica won gold in a world-record time of 36.84 seconds. The United States took silver in 37.04.
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Correction. world championship
Medal Ceremony for Walcott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrM7KIQT3bA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I feel RT does prayer a lot yuh know!!
He almost mess up like KAB with almost running out of zone before receiving the baton and had to stop to get the baton before running off again. Canada would not have been in any bronze position if that last exchange had gone how it should have gone.
Well done to RT for still running back for 4th place and still getting T&T a bronze after Canada was DQed.
God has blessed our nation today, Happy 50th Independence T&T; we got a gold and 3 bronze to celebrate.
I still hurting for our Women in the 4x100m relay yesterday as the tally could easily have been 1 gold and 4 bronze but we must congratulate all our athletes on putting out their best and making us all so proud of their performances at this Olympics.
Together We Aspire, Together We Excel & Together We Achieve, ah love-up my country!! :cheers:
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Correction. world championship
Medal Ceremony for Walcott
http://www.youtube.com/v/rrM7KIQT3bA
Nice one but that is the medal ceremony from World Junior Champs and not this Olympics!
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I feel RT does prayer a lot yuh know!!
He almost mess up like KAB with almost running out of zone before receiving the baton and had to stop to get the baton before running off again. Canada would not have been in any bronze position if that last exchange had gone how it should have gone.
Well done to RT for still running back for 4th place and still getting T&T a bronze after Canada was DQed.
God has blessed our nation today, Happy 50th Independence T&T; we got a gold and 3 bronze to celebrate.
I still hurting for our Women in the 4x100m relay yesterday as the tally could easily have been 1 gold and 4 bronze but we must congratulate all our athletes on putting out their best and making us all so proud of their performances at this Olympics.
Together We Aspire, Together We Excel & Together We Achieve, ah love-up my country!! :cheers:
:beermug: Pro and all those celebrating today for a fabulous day in TnT Sports...
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I feel RT does prayer a lot yuh know!!
He almost mess up like KAB with almost running out of zone before receiving the baton and had to stop to get the baton before running off again. Canada would not have been in any bronze position if that last exchange had gone how it should have gone.
Well done to RT for still running back for 4th place and still getting T&T a bronze after Canada was DQed.
God has blessed our nation today, Happy 50th Independence T&T; we got a gold and 3 bronze to celebrate.
I still hurting for our Women in the 4x100m relay yesterday as the tally could easily have been 1 gold and 4 bronze but we must congratulate all our athletes on putting out their best and making us all so proud of their performances at this Olympics.
Together We Aspire, Together We Excel & Together We Achieve, ah love-up my country!! :cheers:
Ato, convince your boy Drummond to come and coach the T&T relay teams nah?
Obviously the T&T counterpart needs to be put out to pasture.
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Keshorn Walcott Olympic medal ceremony.
http://www.youtube.com/v/xi8ee2tgYdY&feature=channel&list=UL
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Thanks for sharing :beermug:
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Keshorn Walcott Olympic medal ceremony.
http://www.youtube.com/v/xi8ee2tgYdY&feature=channel&list=UL
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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Somebody say us beating Canada like that was payback for Gibbs and Ewatski... wired868 Lasana site
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Somebody say us beating Canada like that was payback for Gibbs and Ewatski... wired868 Lasana site
We would have finished in 3rd place ahead of Canada anyway if we had had a more efficient baton exchange between Callendar and Thompson.
Thompson went off a bit too early and had to almost stop so he could receive the baton inside the exchange zone before starting off again.
Our relay teams need to work on better more efficient exchanges in real time race situations which mean running relays more regularly at every opportunity they get especially before major championships when we will be competing in the relays.
And glad they changed the order of the relay team back to what they are more familiar with RT on anchor despite RT almost messing up on the final exchange.
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Somebody say us beating Canada like that was payback for Gibbs and Ewatski... wired868 Lasana site
We would have finished in 3rd place ahead of Canada anyway if we had had a more efficient baton exchange between Callendar and Thompson.
Thompson went off a bit too early and had to almost stop so he could receive the baton inside the exchange zone before starting off again.
Our relay teams need to work on better more efficient exchanges in real time race situations which mean running relays more regularly at every opportunity they get especially before major championships when we will be competing in the relays.
And glad they changed the order of the relay team back to what they are more familiar with RT on anchor despite RT almost messing up on the final exchange.
This team does not look as if they can even break the NR.
I am not advocating for or insinuating anything... The best team was 2009 with Brown. They ran a smooth 37.62. The exchanges were very smooth. I remember seeing it live.
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Wow - I have to watch this race again.
USA had taken gold in the women's 4x400m Relay, running the fastest time in the world for 19 years. Led off by DeeDee Trotter (50.5), Olympic 200m champion Allyson Felix produced an astonishing 47.8 split to give her team an unassailable lead. Francena McCorory coasted around her lap in 49.39 before Sanya Richards-Ross brought them home with a 49.10 leg, stopping the clock in 3:16.87 – the fastest time in the world since 1993
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Did TV6 show their medal ceremony?
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http://www.youtube.com/v/5BmkzbG0eGI&
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http://www.youtube.com/v/5BmkzbG0eGI&
Yeah big-up to Bledman for real, running with a bad hip and putting it all on the line to help our team win a medal in the 4x100m relay final.
PS: Bledman has been training with Tyson but it seems that he is starting to emulate Tyson a bit too closely now with this hip injury he is now suffering from? Just joking but hope Bledman's hip can fully recover soon and he can continue giving Tyson and the other top sprinters hell on the track for the rest of the season.
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See B
http://www.youtube.com/v/5BmkzbG0eGI&
Yeah big-up to Bledman for real, running with a bad hip and putting it all on the line to help our team win a medal in the 4x100m relay final.
PS: Bledman has been training with Tyson but it seems that he is starting to emulate Tyson a bit too closely now with this hip injury he is now suffering from? Just joking but hope Bledman's hip can fully recover soon and he can be continue giving Tyson and the other top sprinters hell on the track for the rest of the season.
ledman should have given up his place for Marc.
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Somebody say us beating Canada like that was payback for Gibbs and Ewatski... wired868 Lasana site
We would have finished in 3rd place ahead of Canada anyway if we had had a more efficient baton exchange between Callendar and Thompson.
Thompson went off a bit too early and had to almost stop so he could receive the baton inside the exchange zone before starting off again.
Our relay teams need to work on better more efficient exchanges in real time race situations which mean running relays more regularly at every opportunity they get especially before major championships when we will be competing in the relays.
And glad they changed the order of the relay team back to what they are more familiar with RT on anchor despite RT almost messing up on the final exchange.
This team does not look as if they can even break the NR.
I am not advocating for or insinuating anything... The best team was 2009 with Brown. They ran a smooth 37.62. The exchanges were very smooth. I remember seeing it live.
Yes you insinuating plenty..doh try that! You started off by saying this team cannot even break the national record. And then,,, YOU SAY that the BEST team was 2009 with Brown...lol
Brown cannot make any damn T&T team now, leave he out the discussion! If we have a fully fit team, and the exchanges are smooth we beating that record abd. We have faster men now and Brown is a has been.
Talk done.
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See Bhttp://www.youtube.com/v/5BmkzbG0eGI&
Yeah big-up to Bledman for real, running with a bad hip and putting it all on the line to help our team win a medal in the 4x100m relay final.
PS: Bledman has been training with Tyson but it seems that he is starting to emulate Tyson a bit too closely now with this hip injury he is now suffering from? Just joking but hope Bledman's hip can fully recover soon and he can continue giving Tyson and the other top sprinters hell on the track for the rest of the season.
ledman should have given up his place for Marc.
You are confused TT! Marc was on the team!
The order of our 4x100m relay team in the final was Bledman > Burns >> Callendar >>> Thompson.
The last exchange was very sloppy with RT leaving out slightly too early then having to slow down to collect baton in the zone (RT's fault).
We would have beaten Canada outright for the bronze and would have run near to our NR if that last exchange was done more efficiently.
When Bledman is back to 100% fitness that same team that ran in the final will easily lower our current 4x100m relay national record.
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You are confused. I meant in the individuals 100m the man clearly wed unfit
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Somebody say us beating Canada like that was payback for Gibbs and Ewatski... wired868 Lasana site
We would have finished in 3rd place ahead of Canada anyway if we had had a more efficient baton exchange between Callendar and Thompson.
Thompson went off a bit too early and had to almost stop so he could receive the baton inside the exchange zone before starting off again.
Our relay teams need to work on better more efficient exchanges in real time race situations which mean running relays more regularly at every opportunity they get especially before major championships when we will be competing in the relays.
And glad they changed the order of the relay team back to what they are more familiar with RT on anchor despite RT almost messing up on the final exchange.
calender got the baton in first place i believe ... he was slow on the curve ....... we need a new curve runner now
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You are confused. I meant in the individuals 100m the man clearly wed unfit
Yeah but who knows what happened?
It's quite possible that Bledman was declared fully fit after getting treatment for the hip injury he sustained at Crystal Palace Meet and ended up aggravating the injury again during his runs of the Heats and Semis of the 100m at the London Olympics.
If that was the case then it would have been too late to submit Burns in place of Bledman for the 100m as the event would have already started.
At any rate big up to Bledman, Burns, Callendar and Thompson for still bringing us home an Olympic bronze medal despite all the hurdles they had to overcome!
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Somebody say us beating Canada like that was payback for Gibbs and Ewatski... wired868 Lasana site
We would have finished in 3rd place ahead of Canada anyway if we had had a more efficient baton exchange between Callendar and Thompson.
Thompson went off a bit too early and had to almost stop so he could receive the baton inside the exchange zone before starting off again.
Our relay teams need to work on better more efficient exchanges in real time race situations which mean running relays more regularly at every opportunity they get especially before major championships when we will be competing in the relays.
And glad they changed the order of the relay team back to what they are more familiar with RT on anchor despite RT almost messing up on the final exchange.
calender got the baton in first place i believe ... he was slow on the curve ....... we need a new curve runner now
We already have Sorrillo as a good alternative to Callender if Callender is not handling the curve quick enough on the 3rd leg.
Sorrillo should be a good curve runner being our current national 200m champion and having beaten Callendar and the rest of T&T sprinters soundly at the 200m in the process.
Here are three good alternative 4x100m relay line-ups that I believe we can go with and achieve times near to our national record or better:-
Bledman > Burns >> Callender >>> Thompson
Bledman > Burns >> Sorrillo >>> Thompson
Sorrillo > Burns >> Callender >>> Thompson
And if Brown makes his comeback and becomes national 100m champ once again then
Bledman > Burns >> Thompson >>> Brown
In fact I feel this last line up once Brown makes his comeback will smash the new JA World record! ;)
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Splits by my watch:
Lalonde-44.65
Jarrin- 44.37
Ade-45.63
Lendore-44.66
So Ade improved just enough from yesterday but now I know with a healthy Quow, this team could run a second faster.
Anyways bigups once more fellas :beermug: :beermug:
Nice one! :beermug:
Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Final
Olympic men's 4x4 splits compiled from the best avaiable sources by Mark Butler:
1, 2:56.72 BAH Chris Brown 45.2, Demetrius Pinder 43.3, Michael Mathieu 44.25, Ramon Miller 44.01
2, 2:57.05 USA Bryshon Nellum 45.1, Josh Mance 43.7, Tony McQuay 43.41, Angelo Taylor 44.85
3, 2:59.40 TRI L. Gordon 44.6, Jarrin Solomon 44.6, Ade Alleyne-Forte 45.51, Deon Lendore 44.73
4, 2:59.53 GBR Conrad Williams 45.1, Jack Green 45.9, David Greene 45.53, Martyn Rooney 44.09
5, 3:00.09 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.3, Denis Alekseyev 45.3, ladimir Krasnov 44.69, Pavel Trenikhin 44.83
6, 3:01.83 BEL Kevin Borlée 45.3, Antoine Gillet 45.7, Jonathan Borlée 44.55, Michael Bultheel 46.31
7, 3:02.18 VEN Arturo Ramirez 46.0, Alberto Aguilar 45.6, Albert Bravo 45.11, Omar Longart 45.76
8, 3:03.46 RSA Shaun de Jager 46.3, Willem de Beer 45.2, LJ van Zyl 46.27, Oscar Pistorius 45.69
CUB W. Collazo 45.3 (estimate), Raidel Acea 44.3 (estimate), Noel Ruíz dnf, Omar Cisneros dns
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Splits by my watch:
Lalonde-44.65
Jarrin- 44.37
Ade-45.63
Lendore-44.66
So Ade improved just enough from yesterday but now I know with a healthy Quow, this team could run a second faster.
Anyways bigups once more fellas :beermug: :beermug:
Nice one! :beermug:
Splits In The Olympic Men's 4x4 Final
Olympic men's 4x4 splits compiled from the best avaiable sources by Mark Butler:
1, 2:56.72 BAH Chris Brown 45.2, Demetrius Pinder 43.3, Michael Mathieu 44.25, Ramon Miller 44.01
2, 2:57.05 USA Bryshon Nellum 45.1, Josh Mance 43.7, Tony McQuay 43.41, Angelo Taylor 44.85
3, 2:59.40 TRI L. Gordon 44.6, Jarrin Solomon 44.6, Ade Alleyne-Forte 45.51, Deon Lendore 44.73
4, 2:59.53 GBR Conrad Williams 45.1, Jack Green 45.9, David Greene 45.53, Martyn Rooney 44.09
5, 3:00.09 RUS Maksim Dyldin 45.3, Denis Alekseyev 45.3, ladimir Krasnov 44.69, Pavel Trenikhin 44.83
6, 3:01.83 BEL Kevin Borlée 45.3, Antoine Gillet 45.7, Jonathan Borlée 44.55, Michael Bultheel 46.31
7, 3:02.18 VEN Arturo Ramirez 46.0, Alberto Aguilar 45.6, Albert Bravo 45.11, Omar Longart 45.76
8, 3:03.46 RSA Shaun de Jager 46.3, Willem de Beer 45.2, LJ van Zyl 46.27, Oscar Pistorius 45.69
CUB W. Collazo 45.3 (estimate), Raidel Acea 44.3 (estimate), Noel Ruíz dnf, Omar Cisneros dns
Good stuff! Aviator wasn't too far off! :beermug:
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LONDON (GBR) - Track and Field News published following splits for men 4x100 m relay.
In first leg Nesta Carter 10.1 and Trell Kimmons 10.2, in second Michael Frater and Justin Gatlin both same 8.9, in third leg Yohan Blake and Tyson Gay identical 9.0 and anchors Usain Bolt 8.8 with Ryan Bailey 8.9.
Jamaica USA
Carter 10.1 Kimmons 10.2
Frater 8.9 Gatlin 8.9
Blake 9.0 Gay 9.0
Bolt 8.8 Bailey 8.9
Given that Bailey and Bolt were dead even as they received the baton and JA ended up winning by 0.2, I find it hard to believe the anchor splits; I think Bolt may have run 8.7
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Youtube video of Olympic Men's 4x100m Relay Final!
Men's 4 x 100m Relay Final Full Replay -- London 2012 Olympic Games - World Record
http://www.youtube.com/v/uwLDpcye-VM