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Archived Boards => 2010 World Cup - South Africa => Topic started by: Bitter on June 21, 2010, 06:20:44 AM
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Spain-Honduras preview
Defeats in their opening Group H games mean that 21 June’s encounter between Spain and Honduras is now vital for both sides’ hopes of reaching the Round of 16 here at the 2010 FIFA World Cup™. The European champions were shocked 1-0 by Switzerland, while Los Catrachos lost by the same scoreline against Chile.
The match
Spain-Honduras, Group H, Johannesburg, Ellis Park Stadium, Monday 21 June, 20.30 (local time)
Stopped in their tracks by a magnificent defensive display from Switzerland, Spain will be determined to rediscover the route to goal and justify the favourites’ tag thrust upon them before South Africa 2010. Though coach Vicente del Bosque has so far kept his cards close to his chest, La Roja boss is expected to dispense with one of the two deep-lying midfield men that started against Die Nati and bring in an extra striker or attacking midfielder.
Over in the Honduras camp, supremo Reinaldo Rueda has had to replace key midfielder Julio Cesar de Leon with Jerry Palacios, brother of fellow squad members Wilson and Jhony. Meanwhile, Genoa striker David Suazo’s involvement remains in doubt, though he is making good progress in his recovery from a right-thigh injury. “We were beaten by the best and most difficult team in the group (Chile),” said Rueda, clearly unimpressed by the Spaniards’ opening display. “Honduras are capable of playing better (than against Chile).”
The teams’ only previous meeting came at Spain 1982, when La H were able to hold the host nation to a 1-1 draw in their first group game.
Players to watch
Fernando Torres (ESP) v Wilson Palacios (HON)
At the age of 26, Honduras’ biggest star Wilson Palacios comes into the finals off the back of an impressive season with English Premier League side Tottenham Hotspur. Though a defensive midfielder with his club, when pulling on the shirt of La Bicolor Palacios is handed the central Americans’ creative baton – one he will need to wield with more aplomb than against Chile if La H are to hurt Spain.
In lethal form for Liverpool this season despite lengthy and frequent spells sidelined through injury, ‘El Niño’ Torres is back to full fitness and could be called upon by Del Bosque to partner David Villa up front. Though unable to break down the rugged Swiss backline when joining the fray off the bench in Durban, Torres will be determined to make his mark should he get a chance against Honduras.
The stat
46 – The number of years to the day since 21 June 1964: the day Spain claimed the UEFA European Championship on home soil to lift their first major trophy. La Roja secured that title thanks to a 2-1 final win over the former Yugoslavia, with the goals coming from Jesus Pereda and Marcelino.
What they said
“I think that we need to give a better account of ourselves. Honduran players have a lot of quality and we have to make the most of that. That’s why I asked our coach if it’d be possible for us to play further up the pitch and send more players forward in attack, though I understand that we mustn’t lose our shape at the back. It’s always important to try and keep a clean sheet,” Sergio Mendoza, Honduras right-back.
“The important thing now is to stay true to our style of play, which is what has made us a winning team. We can’t afford to lose our heads, we need to keep doing what we’re doing and keep believing in what made us favourites. If we do go down, we’ll go down our way, and not because we started doing strange things,” Fernando Torres, Spain striker.
Voice of the fans
“This is a must-win game for Spain if they wish to go far at this World Cup. They’ve got the players and the style, all they’re lacking is that bit of luck which at the moment has been eluding them, but anything can still happen. In my opinion, given that Spain need to win at least 2-0, they’ll send out a very attacking team with Torres and Villa up front from the start and Cesc [Fabregas] in midfield. But there could be a lot of surprises in this game if we don’t get an early goal,” erniode, FIFA.com user (Spain)
The question
Which side will have boosted its chances of reaching the next round come the final whistle?
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Honduras is reppin for our region CONCACAF so I'm hoping they can squeeze a draw or even a win (if Spain is not at their best!)
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Honduras is reppin for our region CONCACAF so I'm hoping they can squeeze a draw or even a win (if Spain is not at their best!)
I hope so but I feel Spain will drop about 4 or 5 on dem.
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Honduras is reppin for our region CONCACAF so I'm hoping they can squeeze a draw or even a win (if Spain is not at their best!)
I hope so but I feel Spain will drop about 4 or 5 on dem.
CO-SIGN....that said, Go Honduras!!...
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Spain going and choke again , watch and see :devil:
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ah rooting for spain. when dey good dey good. dey should make xavi, david villa, iniesta, navas, david silva and pedro honorary smurfs.
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Villa just scored a candidate for goal of the tournament...
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Boom Bang
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villa boy
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Wow! Bessss goal by Villa!
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Wow! Bessss goal by Villa!
Goal of the tournament :beermug:
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I love football.I love this month
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Spain has an abundance of talent and neat football players but I could see how a disciplined, dogged (and lucky) defense could keep them at bay. They have a tendency to over work the ball in non-threatening areas of the field and then ultimately get it into the same wide areas over and over again, each time they go forward. I'd like to see them work some one-twos on top the box, through the middle, and possibly utilize some more unorthodox passing patterns in different areas of the field. Iniesta in the last game (seemingly not on the field today), and Villa seem the most inclined to switch it up....
Who say another 7-0?
;D
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Imagine that beast running down the left for Barca, with Messi down the right and then yuh have to handle Ibra in the middle.
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
What motivated that brodda?
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I bet anything Costa Rica woulda beat up Spain.. Honduras shows they dont deserve to represent concacaf. shame shame shame.. they should be drafted into CAMEBOL
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
Steups,
So your suggestion is that you get the stars first and then hope you can build a team?
How about this. You do the best with what you have. Sometimes it will be good, sometimes you will get licks.
This Honduras team is playing worse than they did in stretches of qualifying. Why that is, who knows. But they did the hard work to be there and earn the right to get licks. As long as is only 1-0 they still in this game though.
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Boom Bang
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As I type that, Villa score again.
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
Steups,
So your suggestion is that you get the stars first and then hope you can build a team?
How about this. You do the best with what you have. Sometimes it will be good, sometimes you will get licks.
This Honduras team is playing worse than they did in stretches of qualifying. Why that is, who knows. But they did the hard work to be there and earn the right to get licks. As long as is only 1-0 they still in this game though.
the touch of death boy
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
Steups,
So your suggestion is that you get the stars first and then hope you can build a team?
How about this. You do the best with what you have. Sometimes it will be good, sometimes you will get licks.
This Honduras team is playing worse than they did in stretches of qualifying. Why that is, who knows. But they did the hard work to be there and earn the right to get licks. As long as is only 1-0 they still in this game though.
the touch of death boy
Yeah, I shoulda say this game beyond they reach. They should give up.
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Yuh right, they shoulda never get out of bed 2 years ago.
You shoulda never get out of bed either and make this excrement post.
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easy game
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Se la perdio! :rotfl:
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
Steups,
So your suggestion is that you get the stars first and then hope you can build a team?
How about this. You do the best with what you have. Sometimes it will be good, sometimes you will get licks.
This Honduras team is playing worse than they did in stretches of qualifying. Why that is, who knows. But they did the hard work to be there and earn the right to get licks. As long as is only 1-0 they still in this game though.
the touch of death boy
Yeah, I shoulda say this game beyond they reach. They should give up.
Like it wuk! He Miss!!!!
Honduras need to forfeit this game ;D
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He hit it nice and crisp too.
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Suazo lapse dey, he had angles to play 3 men clear into the box and instead take the shot.
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Se la perdio! :rotfl:
SEEEEEEEE LAAAAAAAAA PEEEEERDDDIIIOOOOOOOOO :rotfl:
boy i watching de game on mute and see de ref point to the spot... ah say to mehself quiet "penal penal penal"
i put on meh headphones.. de man still bawling PENAL PENAL PENAL.... :rotfl:
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
What motivated that brodda?
It's a deliberately provocative comment. Bitter, I don't really believe we should abandon team enterprises. What I am doing is underlining the gap ... nah CHASM that exists when one of the most fundamental situations in soccer occurs and "our" players are involved ... the 1 v. 1.
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Honduras back line defending too deep in the area. They getting ketch with that cutback every time. The man at the top of the area is the danger man who taking the shots. You can't take 5 men to defend 4 if you leaving men open at the top of the 18 to tee up bullets.
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Hon gettin out played , rel sad lol, men cah even string passes
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Se la perdio! :rotfl:
SEEEEEEEE LAAAAAAAAA PEEEEERDDDIIIOOOOOOOOO :rotfl:
boy i watching de game on mute and see de ref point to the spot... ah say to mehself quiet "penal penal penal"
i put on meh headphones.. de man still bawling PENAL PENAL PENAL.... :rotfl:
Dem men ha me rollin wid their commentary, cyar beat it
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Hon gettin out played , rel sad lol, men cah even string passes
Sad how ? Spain will outplay most teams.They outplayed the Swiss too.
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Mata now hit a man a long drag...
Just a lil Trini colour commentary to switch it up a bit....
;D
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Best World Cup day so far.
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Spain have some licks to get. They leaving passing lanes for a diagonal cut right in the middle of the D.
Honduras not seeing/exploiting it. But I sure potential knockout round opponents licking they chops (if they could withstand the offensive assault)
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Spain-Brazil would be a sweet second rounds, with one powerhouse crying at the end of it
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Spain-Brazil would be a sweet second rounds, with one powerhouse crying at the end of it
Spain would be lucky to make the 2nd rounds, they will have a damn hard time vs Chile and the Swiss likely to roll pass los Catrachos
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We (many CONCACAF nations) should focus on individual player development, and leggo the team concept. Once we insert an abundance of talent in the highest echelons of Europe, and have established ourselves as a source of quality players, we should return to the notion of building teams that offer a realistic chance at competing at senior international level.
Perhaps?
Steups,
So your suggestion is that you get the stars first and then hope you can build a team?
How about this. You do the best with what you have. Sometimes it will be good, sometimes you will get licks.
This Honduras team is playing worse than they did in stretches of qualifying. Why that is, who knows. But they did the hard work to be there and earn the right to get licks. As long as is only 1-0 they still in this game though.
Ah guessing the cause is the level of opposition ;D
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Half hour after making the 1 v 1 observation above, Roberto Martinez and Lalas dedicate several comments to that precise thing.
Unfortunate how this game unfolded, but it must have pained Hondurans to watch this. I caught no more than 10 minutes initially and then another 10-12 after posting ... wasn't hard to decipher.
I didn't see the match v. Chile but I hope it was 'better' from the viewpoint of a Honduran rendition.
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Best World Cup day so far.
Ah cyar see nor hear....only FIFA matchcast ah have....aaaaarrrggghhhh!!!!.....
:frustrated: :frustrated: :banginghead: :banginghead:
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Shit side.. Costa Rica would atleast score one and not get outplayed so bad.... Honduras is pure pure shit...
We let this shit side beat we arse.. shame shame shame :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thank god for USA and Mexico yes.. most ah alyuh f**kin sprangers doh live aboard and dont have to deal with all the shit talking..
SaFe to say Honduras is the worse team at the world cup.. we might lose 1.5 spots for this shit.
Who wants to see this shit side in a world cup.. shit ..
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Shit side.. Costa Rica would atleast score one and not get outplayed so bad.... Honduras is pure pure shit...
We let this shit side beat we arse.. shame shame shame :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thank god for USA and Mexico yes.. most ah alyuh f**kin sprangers doh live aboard and dont have to deal with all the shit talking..
SaFe to say Honduras is the worse team at the world cup.. we might lose 1.5 spots for this shit.
Who wants to see this shit side in a world cup.. shit ..
Dred, stop posting from the bar. Just concentrate on the drinks...
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Shit side.. Costa Rica would atleast score one and not get outplayed so bad.... Honduras is pure pure shit...
We let this shit side beat we arse.. shame shame shame :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thank god for USA and Mexico yes.. most ah alyuh f**kin sprangers doh live aboard and dont have to deal with all the shit talking..
SaFe to say Honduras is the worse team at the world cup.. we might lose 1.5 spots for this shit.
Who wants to see this shit side in a world cup.. shit ..
Dred, stop posting from the bar. Just concentrate on the drinks...
but wtf i reallly seeing here... alyuh doh like mex and usa who reppin we region so f**kin hard but like a f**kin shit worse side like honduras?
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Shit side.. Costa Rica would atleast score one and not get outplayed so bad.... Honduras is pure pure shit...
We let this shit side beat we arse.. shame shame shame :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thank god for USA and Mexico yes.. most ah alyuh f**kin sprangers doh live aboard and dont have to deal with all the shit talking..
SaFe to say Honduras is the worse team at the world cup.. we might lose 1.5 spots for this shit.
Who wants to see this shit side in a world cup.. shit ..
Dred, stop posting from the bar. Just concentrate on the drinks...
but wtf i reallly seeing here... alyuh doh like mex and usa who reppin we region so f**kin hard but like a f**kin shit worse side like honduras?
fail shithong muss like shit eh.. doh reply to my posts.. ugghh go brush yuh teeth
When T&T playing, you does wear yuh colours or hide?
Wait. I forget, you planning to bun your passport and support your real team.
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When tnt playing at home ah wearing red, when tnt playin in usa ah hiding.. hope this answers ur question..
btw meh passport expired might as well bun it lol
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shit match muss get ah shit thread lol :rotfl: :rotfl:
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When tnt playing at home ah wearing red, when tnt playin in usa ah hiding.. hope this answers ur question..
btw meh passport expired might as well bun it lol
Nah man! Yuh have to sail with the boat.
But one of the deals with Honduras is them in the same boat as us in 2006.1st World cup. When they playing in the hex, then the mus loss every game. But for a 1st time team, playing 2 of the strongest sides in the world (Chile finished 2rd in CONMEBOL). So yeah, they out of their depth, but that doh mean they cyah get a lil bligh
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Half hour after making the 1 v 1 observation above, Roberto Martinez and Lalas dedicate several comments to that precise thing.
Unfortunate how this game unfolded, but it must have pained Hondurans to watch this. I caught no more than 10 minutes initially and then another 10-12 after posting ... wasn't hard to decipher.
I didn't see the match v. Chile but I hope it was 'better' from the viewpoint of a Honduran rendition.
Honduras look like a pub side in both matches. I shame to know they hit us 4.
edit: I think the 12 in Shotta12 name refers to his age or his IQ. He kinda reminds me of bajan/triniscout...
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Half hour after making the 1 v 1 observation above, Roberto Martinez and Lalas dedicate several comments to that precise thing.
Unfortunate how this game unfolded, but it must have pained Hondurans to watch this. I caught no more than 10 minutes initially and then another 10-12 after posting ... wasn't hard to decipher.
I didn't see the match v. Chile but I hope it was 'better' from the viewpoint of a Honduran rendition.
Honduras look like a pub side in both matches. I shame to know they hit us 4.
I just glad de seeded team we get in 06 was England... coulda be plenty worst
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When tnt playing at home ah wearing red, when tnt playin in usa ah hiding.. hope this answers ur question..
btw meh passport expired might as well bun it lol
Nah man! Yuh have to sail with the boat.
But one of the deals with Honduras is them in the same boat as us in 2006.1st World cup. When they playing in the hex, then the mus loss every game. But for a 1st time team, playing 2 of the strongest sides in the world (Chile finished 2rd in CONMEBOL). So yeah, they out of their depth, but that doh mean they cyah get a lil bligh
This is not honduras first world cup.....
honduras only qualify b.c el salvador give them that game an usa beat crc on final minute, would of much rather seeing ticos there.
I said it before and i will say it again.. TNT need a bad ass fortress to be a serious side.. from the time oppenents walk in they must feel that they in an away match and not an exhibition one.
Why mex, usa and honduras cant lose at home
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Shit side.. Costa Rica would atleast score one and not get outplayed so bad.... Honduras is pure pure shit...
We let this shit side beat we arse.. shame shame shame :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thank god for USA and Mexico yes.. most ah alyuh f**kin sprangers doh live aboard and dont have to deal with all the shit talking..
SaFe to say Honduras is the worse team at the world cup.. we might lose 1.5 spots for this shit.
Who wants to see this shit side in a world cup.. shit ..
Dred, stop posting from the bar. Just concentrate on the drinks...
:rotfl: :rotfl: