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Otto Pfister's legacy
« on: April 11, 2011, 05:31:21 AM »
Otto Pfister's legacy
By Fazeer Mohammed (T&T Express)


Otto Pfister has no interest in football in this country.

Like Leo Beenhakker, that other celebrated international coaching nomad with whom we are well acquainted, he has been hired to perform a specific job. And, like the supreme professional that he no doubt is, the 73-year-old German will bring all of his vast and varied experience to bear in seeking to qualify Trinidad and Tobago for the 2014 World Cup football finals.

Then, whether he has succeeded or failed in this singular objective, he will pack up and move on to another assignment or, given his advanced age, decide that more than 40 years of traipsing around the so-called Third World is enough and return to his home city of Cologne to reflect on what he has achieved as a coach.

And where will that leave us? At the end of the day, it really does come down to your own perspective and priorities.

If you look at sport – and therefore football – as an avenue for national development and especially the nurturing of a healthy, disciplined, productive youth culture, it appears reasonable to question what will be Pfister's legacy beyond the success or failure of the senior men's national team.

If, however, you hold the view that a successful national side lining up once again alongside the giants of the international game at the sport's premier showpiece will be the catalyst to achieving all of the above-mentioned objectives, then there should be no objection to him exploring every option in pursuit of a goal that, as we can remember only too well, galvanises a nation and elevates a sense of unity and national pride beyond any other endeavour.

Pfister has been hired to get results, full stop. In the same pragmatic manner in which Beenhakker took on the job of getting us to Germany in 2006, he will do whatever is necessary within the rules and without being burdened by such emotive matters as popular sentiment or national sensibilities.

In that context, there will be no real objection to his journey to London this afternoon seeking to persuade a few supposedly well-established, English-based professionals with some sort of ancestral connection to Trinidad and Tobago to wear the national colours in the "Road to Rio" campaign. And there are good reasons for the absence of vociferous dissent, even if that silence is a disgruntled one.

First and foremost, this is still very much a colonial society where, in our 49th year of political independence, a hierarchical status quo based on colour and class, which also values so-called First World foreign over anything local, is deeply embedded in the national psyche.

Steupsing and rolling your eyes at what you consider to be yet another regurgitation of a tired and now invalid argument? Well, apart from watching how the well-to-do and well-connected are already frustrating the progress of the CLICO/HCU Commission of Enquiry, tell me honestly if you believe any local coach, even if he had taken us to the World Cup finals, would have escaped unscathed in the same manner that Beenhakker did in leaving the beloved Russell Latapy on the bench for all but the final 15 minutes of the three games played by T&T in Germany almost five years ago?

Secondly, like scavenging pot-hounds hoping eagerly for a bone to be tossed in their direction, those with any stake at all in the local football firmament will scarcely offer even a whimper of discontent – be he player, coach or official – for fear of jeopardising chances of getting a morsel from the giant iron pot of World Cup-associated largesse.

It takes courage and the willingness to endure sacrifice for real changes to be made in almost any context, qualities which are in desperately short supply around here.

Like Leo before him, Otto will have his way and not a damn dog shall bark an objection. With the benefit of a two-year head-start on the Dutchman (remember Beenhakker replaced Bertille St Clair with seven games left in the final phase of qualifying in 2005), Pfister's chances of success are obviously increased, even if we are already behind almost all the leading CONCACAF contenders in preparation for the 2014 qualifying campaign.

But we have the lingering, acrimonious aftermath of Germany 2006 to constantly remind us that getting to the big stage of itself does not automatically place the game in that country on a sound footing from which there can be continuous progress. The ongoing legal wrangling over bonus payments for "blacklisted" players and the failure to qualify for the last two Gold Cups suggest that, for Trinidad and Tobago at least, playing in a World Cup finals was more of a trap door than a springboard for football.

That Pfister will have a total local crew in support is supposed to be a plus, the assumption being that the natives will benefit from the foreign maestro's expertise and can therefore carry on in similar vein when the visitor departs these shores for good. As usual, there is much speculation over who are the favourites for the assistant coaching and other positions. If nothing else, you have to hope that selections are based on merit and an eye to the future rather than an opportunity to give a pardner a wuk or as undeserved compensation for a demotion.

Well, here's one solid recommendation for a support staff member based on the new man's immediate desire to go scouting for talent:

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 06:23:13 AM »
Pfister to benefit from Latapy’s work.
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With the installation of Otto Pfister by The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation as the new head coach of the Soca Warriors, the questions before Keith Look Loy and his confidantes will be what will be Pfister’s significant added value given the deficiencies with our players, and Trinidad and Tobago’s Football Federation in its failure to provide the necessary and required support for Russell Latapy to succeed.

It is expected that Pfister will get significantly more support from T&TFF than Latapy will ever dream of getting. I suspect that we will see funding magically becoming readily available for more tours and competitive games to develop the players, and acceding to request in the player’s interest.

While I’m of the understanding that Latapy will be part of this vision and new coaching structure, we must ensure that he (Latapy) is given the credit for providing the platform for Otto Pfister to build upon. Let’s trust that Pfister can add value and transfer of knowledge, and not that he is profiting  from Latapy’s knowledge imparted to him by Bobby Robson among others.

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 07:34:42 AM »
Pfister to benefit from Latapy’s work.
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With the installation of Otto Pfister by The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation as the new head coach of the Soca Warriors, the questions before Keith Look Loy and his confidantes will be what will be Pfister’s significant added value given the deficiencies with our players, and Trinidad and Tobago’s Football Federation in its failure to provide the necessary and required support for Russell Latapy to succeed.

It is expected that Pfister will get significantly more support from T&TFF than Latapy will ever dream of getting. I suspect that we will see funding magically becoming readily available for more tours and competitive games to develop the players, and acceding to request in the player’s interest.

While I’m of the understanding that Latapy will be part of this vision and new coaching structure, we must ensure that he (Latapy) is given the credit for providing the platform for Otto Pfister to build upon. Let’s trust that Pfister can add value and transfer of knowledge, and not that he is profiting  from Latapy’s knowledge imparted to him by Bobby Robson among others.

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 07:49:00 AM »
"we must ensure that he (Latapy) is given the credit for providing the platform for Otto Pfister to build upon. Let’s trust that Pfister can add value and transfer of knowledge, and not that he is profiting  from Latapy’s knowledge"

This man on drugs? What platform? The only platform I can see Latapy has given Pfister is that Otto can only go up! I'm not questioning Russell's ability, as he never really had enough support from TTFF, yet this is a results business, and Latapy and Pfister will be compared on that basis. Just bringing back some of the overseas players would be enough to provide Pfister with a better record.

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 08:47:21 AM »
Pfister to benefit from Latapy’s work.
T&T Guardian.


With the installation of Otto Pfister by The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation as the new head coach of the Soca Warriors, the questions before Keith Look Loy and his confidantes will be what will be Pfister’s significant added value given the deficiencies with our players, and Trinidad and Tobago’s Football Federation in its failure to provide the necessary and required support for Russell Latapy to succeed.

It is expected that Pfister will get significantly more support from T&TFF than Latapy will ever dream of getting. I suspect that we will see funding magically becoming readily available for more tours and competitive games to develop the players, and acceding to request in the player’s interest.

While I’m of the understanding that Latapy will be part of this vision and new coaching structure, we must ensure that he (Latapy) is given the credit for providing the platform for Otto Pfister to build upon. Let’s trust that Pfister can add value and transfer of knowledge, and not that he is profiting  from Latapy’s knowledge imparted to him by Bobby Robson among others.

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 08:49:48 AM »
Like Latapy learn from Jack.....creating false profiles and writing to the newspapers....*smh*
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 08:52:52 AM »
Like Latapy learn from Jack.....creating false profiles and writing to the newspapers....*smh*

Latas is learning the game but cyah touch Jack in that department!

Jack even have his agents posting on this forum, under profile names like diamondtrim, etc!!  ;)
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 08:57:50 AM »
I like Fazeer... but he talking shit in that article.

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First and foremost, this is still very much a colonial society where, in our 49th year of political independence, a hierarchical status quo based on colour and class, which also values so-called First World foreign over anything local, is deeply embedded in the national psyche.

Beenhakker wasn't criticized (more than he was) for leaving Latapy on the bench not as a result of some Third World deference to a First World coach, but rather as a result of his coaching pedigree.  This isn't about local v. foreign as Fazeer speciously tries to make it out to be.  Had that been a Fenwick or even a Porterfield who benched Latas then he would have been roundly criticized.  Beenhakkeer has a proven track record, and he did something almost magical in getting us to Germany.  Foreigner or not that bought him a huge benefit of the doubt.

His opening sentence is also grossly inaccurate... it is clear that Pfister cares about football in this country, to the extent that he wants to win.  No coach of his stature, rep and legacy wants to go into a situation with the goal of losing... so he cares.  He just doesn't care as much as us diehards care and he doesn't share the same long-term interests.

Poor arguments, poor article.


I ent even bothering responding to that shit letter to the Editor.

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 09:22:29 AM »
Just another article that attempts to deflect from the true deficiencies and ineptness of TT football leaders. Once again hiding behind the veil of coaches shouldering the responsibility.  ???
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 10:28:29 AM »
I like Fazeer... but he talking shit in that article.

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First and foremost, this is still very much a colonial society where, in our 49th year of political independence, a hierarchical status quo based on colour and class, which also values so-called First World foreign over anything local, is deeply embedded in the national psyche.

Beenhakker wasn't criticized (more than he was) for leaving Latapy on the bench not as a result of some Third World deference to a First World coach, but rather as a result of his coaching pedigree.  This isn't about local v. foreign as Fazeer speciously tries to make it out to be.  Had that been a Fenwick or even a Porterfield who benched Latas then he would have been roundly criticized.  Beenhakkeer has a proven track record, and he did something almost magical in getting us to Germany.  Foreigner or not that bought him a huge benefit of the doubt.

His opening sentence is also grossly inaccurate... it is clear that Pfister cares about football in this country, to the extent that he wants to win.  No coach of his stature, rep and legacy wants to go into a situation with the goal of losing... so he cares.  He just doesn't care as much as us diehards care and he doesn't share the same long-term interests.

Poor arguments, poor article.


I ent even bothering responding to that shit letter to the Editor.

I agree with Bakes. Respect Fazeer cricket opinions but his football opinions are usually crap. Remember in the campaign leading up to 2006? He said we should quit the qualifying campaign to save ourselves the embarrassment. 

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 10:38:54 AM »
Just another article that attempts to deflect from the true deficiencies and ineptness of TT football leaders. Once again hiding behind the veil of coaches shouldering the responsibility.  ???
dey even somescreening the smokescreen, yes  :(

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 11:03:05 AM »
Fazeer why the negative vibes? 
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 01:13:14 PM »
Good luck Otto, wishing you all the best doing the job you were hired to do.
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 01:30:49 PM »
Good luck Otto, wishing you all the best doing the job you were hired to do.

Correct, he has been hired for the short term to do his best to help qualify T&T for Brazil 2014 and right now seeing that we are outside the top 10 in CONCACAF he definitely has his work cut out.

I think most of us understand that Pfister is not here to develop T&T football and can only work with the material at his disposal.

My main concern right now before I can throw my full support behind the new coach's efforts is that T&T taxpayers money is going into his pocket via the TTFF which is not accountable to us and that money could have been better spent with long term goals in mind while our 2006 world cup warriors (all heroes in my book) are still waiting for the money that was promised to them by the TTFF and proper accounts are still to be shown!
Once this issue has been resolved I will have no problem throwing my full support behind the new coach’s efforts, like attending games whenever I can, etc!
« Last Edit: April 11, 2011, 01:33:05 PM by Socapro »
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 03:37:44 PM »
Once this issue has been resolved I will have no problem throwing my full support behind the new coach’s efforts, like attending games whenever I can, etc


Socapro, I agree on this point wholeheartedly

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2011, 04:20:12 PM »
"we must ensure that he (Latapy) is given the credit for providing the platform for Otto Pfister to build upon. Let’s trust that Pfister can add value and transfer of knowledge, and not that he is profiting  from Latapy’s knowledge"

This man on drugs? What platform? The only platform I can see Latapy has given Pfister is that Otto can only go up! I'm not questioning Russell's ability, as he never really had enough support from TTFF, yet this is a results business, and Latapy and Pfister will be compared on that basis. Just bringing back some of the overseas players would be enough to provide Pfister with a better record.


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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2011, 04:37:07 PM »
Fazeer why the negative vibes? 

Fazeer is one-eye man in blind man country. This man has been writing more shit than Coops on a regular basis and, believe it or not, gets paid to do it. Poor Coops must be sulking in a corner all now. It is said that brevity is a sign of intelligence. fazeer is must be one dumb......

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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2011, 04:43:52 PM »
Fazeer why the negative vibes? 

Fazeer is one-eye man in blind man country. This man has been writing more shit than Coops on a regular basis and, believe it or not, gets paid to do it. Poor Coops must be sulking in a corner all now. It is said that brevity is a sign of intelligence. fazeer is must be one dumb......

What exactly is the shit you are referring to?

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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2011, 04:48:23 PM »
Fazeer why the negative vibes? 

Huh? What is it that you do not agree with?

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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2011, 04:53:12 PM »
Fazeer why the negative vibes? 

Huh? What is it that you do not agree with?

The 1st sentence is negative, followed by more negative.  Yuh blind or what?  How he know that the coach just trying to collect a check?
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Re: Otto Pfister's legacy
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2011, 05:17:29 PM »
Fazeer why the negative vibes? 

Fazeer is one-eye man in blind man country. This man has been writing more shit than Coops on a regular basis and, believe it or not, gets paid to do it. Poor Coops must be sulking in a corner all now. It is said that brevity is a sign of intelligence. fazeer is must be one dumb......

What exactly is the shit you are referring to?

Read what I just wrote again. Obviously you cant see it!

 

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