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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2014, 06:17:28 PM »
Manning considering running for election
By Ria Taitt Political Editor

 
Former prime minister Patrick Manning has announced that he is considering offering himself as a candidate for the PNM in the next general election.

Manning made the announcement at the constituency’s regular Monday night meeting. Sources said the meeting was supposed to be the forum at which Manning was expected to propose a nominee of his choice to the constituency for screening by the party’s Screening Committee. The party has called for nominations for the San Fernando East constituency and the deadline for the submission of nominees is December 1.

However Manning told the meeting last night that he was considering running for the San Fernando East constituency for yet another time. Manning has represented the constituency for 43 years and holds the record for being the longest serving MP.

Manning who suffered a major stroke in January 2011, was away from Parliament for two years due to ill health. Since returning to the Parliament, he has never spoken in any debate. He also does not attend party caucus or party meetings or conventions.  Sources said Manning said he was considering returning as a candidate as long as his health permitted. Manning has challenges with speech as well as mobility.
Manning had previously stated that he would be bowing out of politics after this parliamentary term was over. He reiterated his position as recently as last October during the Local Government election. Thus, his announcement last night, caught many by surprise.

The Screening Committee is chaired by Political Leader Dr Keith Rowley and comprises all the officers of the party. Rowley is currently out of the country.
Up to press time the meeting of the San Fernando East constituency was still in session.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Manning-considering-running-for-election-283793391.html
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2014, 07:42:38 PM »
As much as a healthy Patos can easily win his Sando East seat, I would rather him just retire from politics and enjoy life. I would hate to see him die as a Parliamentarian. He can offer his senior advice to the PNM executive as a non-Parliamentarian and someone who is not active in politics.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2014, 10:43:17 AM »
Patos is blackmailing Rowley in selecting his candiadte plain and simple.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2014, 01:57:26 PM »

Tony Fraser: The odds are against the PP


As the election campaign begins to take centre stage, the odds are against the People’s Partnership government being returned to office whenever the elections are called sometime between the present and September 2015. And it seems that in particular, Attorney General Ramlogan is making too much of the September deadline; it is a basic rule that when politicians say run, that is the time not to move a muscle.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/columnist/2014-11-26/odds-are-against-pp



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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2014, 06:30:34 PM »

Tony Fraser: The odds are against the PP


As the election campaign begins to take centre stage, the odds are against the People’s Partnership government being returned to office whenever the elections are called sometime between the present and September 2015. And it seems that in particular, Attorney General Ramlogan is making too much of the September deadline; it is a basic rule that when politicians say run, that is the time not to move a muscle.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/columnist/2014-11-26/odds-are-against-pp




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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2014, 08:14:28 PM »
I didn't experience that cause I viewing through Tapatalk. Then again Guardian site is finicky.


Yeah they up against it but they have some cards they holding to drop. Like hdc houses and "regularisation of illegal immigrants".  The demonize Rowley in full swing. The PR machine running.


Watch the ride. Cause it liable to have real comess... To unprecedented Heights for this election.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2014, 03:05:25 PM »

Trinidad Express Poll (November 30th)


WHICH PARTY DO YOU THINK IS BEST AT......

PROVIDING BENEFITS:
PNM 29% UNC 28%

PERFORMANCE:
PNM 30% UNC 26 %

ETHICAL LEADERSHIP:
PNM 33% UNC 23%





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« Reply #97 on: November 30, 2014, 03:14:10 PM »
^^ If one was to take the polls of the last couple months seriously you will see that both parties still have a lot of work to do to convince the undecided public  that their party is the better one to govern the country.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #98 on: November 30, 2014, 06:55:08 PM »
Yeah the undecided. And I tell yuh it going and have some unprecedented lengths being reached.

Like this for example circulating on social media today:

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Mom, Aunts and Grandmother (with young kids) just walked out of MT (There celebrating my mother's birthday) to find my aunts SUV tires flattened and this note on her windscreen. After a quick look around they noticed other people (only of White and Asian decent) had the air let out of their tires as well... people really trying to start a race war in Trinidad? The height of ignorance here is ridiculous! The f**ked up thing is you couldn't find more mixed up people (race wise) than my family, AND We are some of the most tolerant, accepting people you will ever meet (just look at my siblings and my spouses/SO's-- United Nations over here) Please people, we shouldn't be encountering shit like this in 2014 especially in a place as ethnically diverse as T&T... ‪#‎ThisIsNotFerguson‬ ‪#‎ReallyNiggaz‬? ..... Happy Birthday mummy!!! Carmelita Akan-Butts




Seen anything similar previously?
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #99 on: November 30, 2014, 07:19:25 PM »
^^ You can tell its fake. There is no letterhead, all in CAPS, no signature. You always see this type of idiot nonsense right after polling results has been published. Any ignorant fool with ah ole computer can copy and paste the PNM logo and type that nonsense.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #100 on: November 30, 2014, 07:36:31 PM »
^^ You can tell its fake. There is no letterhead, all in CAPS, no signature. You always see this type of idiot nonsense right after polling results has been published. Any ignorant fool with ah ole computer can copy the PNM logo and type that nonsense.

You'd be surprised how many people going to town on this.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #101 on: November 30, 2014, 08:04:37 PM »
^^ You can tell its fake. There is no letterhead, all in CAPS, no signature. You always see this type of idiot nonsense right after polling results has been published. Any ignorant fool with ah ole computer can copy the PNM logo and type that nonsense.

You'd be surprised how many people going to town on this.

Maybe the intention is probably to cast fear in a racial group to not vote PNM. Between now and election day we will see how much T&T have matured.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #102 on: November 30, 2014, 11:06:10 PM »
Yeah the undecided. And I tell yuh it going and have some unprecedented lengths being reached.

Like this for example circulating on social media today:

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Mom, Aunts and Grandmother (with young kids) just walked out of MT (There celebrating my mother's birthday) to find my aunts SUV tires flattened and this note on her windscreen. After a quick look around they noticed other people (only of White and Asian decent) had the air let out of their tires as well... people really trying to start a race war in Trinidad? The height of ignorance here is ridiculous! The f**ked up thing is you couldn't find more mixed up people (race wise) than my family, AND We are some of the most tolerant, accepting people you will ever meet (just look at my siblings and my spouses/SO's-- United Nations over here) Please people, we shouldn't be encountering shit like this in 2014 especially in a place as ethnically diverse as T&T... ‪#‎ThisIsNotFerguson‬ ‪#‎ReallyNiggaz‬? ..... Happy Birthday mummy!!! Carmelita Akan-Butts




Seen anything similar previously?

I am sure that was done by racist PP supporters trying their best to make the PNM look as racist as they are. I put nothing below the racist supporters of this clearly corrupt and racist government who are out to destroy T&T for good because of their greed and self serving racist agenda.

But this is what happens when you have a racist divisive party in power that wants to turn T&T into another Guyana. Give them 5 more years and that nightmare for T&T is guaranteed and as the PM says in a popular radio advert the job is 90% completed and ongoing but she needs another 5 years to complete the job.

Nothing is too low for this current racist PP government we currently have in power in T&T. They need to be placed into poltical exile for eternity as they have proven that they are not moraly fit to govern T&T in every department.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #103 on: November 30, 2014, 11:20:11 PM »

PM, Rowley tie in favourability
MPs losing support in 4 marginal constituencies

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PM-Rowley-tie-in-favourability-284280741.html

In the next general election San Fernando West and St Joseph are too close to call, the People’s Partnership (PP) has a clear lead in Moruga/Tableland and the People’s National Movement (PNM) is ahead in Tunapuna.
This is the finding of a tracking poll by Solution by Simulation commissioned by the Express.
The poll finds that run-off elections are possible in San Fernando West and St Joseph if the election were held today.
The first in a series of polls of marginal constituencies focuses on Tunapuna, St Joseph, San Fernando West and Moruga/Tableland.
In these four constituencies the two political leaders, Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Dr Keith Rowley, are tied in favourability ratings.
Keep reading the Express for more in a series of 2015 general elections tracking polls in the marginal constituencies to determine which party is likely to sit as the next government.
All polls are being conducted by Solution by Simulation led by Nigel Henry, the country’s newest and most accurate pollster.
Following is the conclusion of the first poll by SBS:

Popularity of the Leaders

In the constituencies polled, the leaders of the two major parties have statistically indistinguishable favourability ratings. Unlike in the national population where the favourability of the Prime Minister typically outperforms the popularity of her party and the favourability of the Opposition Leader typically falls short of the popularity of the PNM, in these constituencies the favourability of the two leaders is essentially on-par with the general election preferences between the parties. The favourability ratings of the two leaders are in the low 40s, compared to their national approval ratings in the high forties.
On average, respondents had a net negative approval rating of their Member of Parliament, with 41 per cent approving and 46 per cent disapproving of the job that each is doing. However, among the four constituencies there was a clear distinction between approval ratings of the MPs in the COP-controlled constituencies—both of which are in the low 30s—and the approval ratings of the MPs in St Joseph and Moruga/Tableland­—both of which are in the high 40s.

Third parties and
the “Run-off” factor

Overall, four per cent of those polled support the Independent Liberal Party (ILP), and all other parties combined for 5 per cent. The ILP’s support has drastically dropped from its peak of 23 per cent nationally in the Local Government Election in 2013 and whatever supporters remain are more likely to be men than women.
If the proposed constitutional amendment provisions are passed, the high third party vote (9 per cent on average) creates the possibility of a “run-off” election in all four seats polled, and perhaps others not polled. This poll almost guarantees that run-off elections would be held in San Fernando West and St Joseph if the election were held today. In these seats, whichever party’s supporters return to the polls in higher numbers and captures more votes of third party supporters, would make the difference.
However, in these four constituencies, the proportion of major-party supporters who would return to vote in a decisive run-off election is a statistical tie: 88 per cent for the PP and 87 per cent for the PNM. Similarly, the proportion of third-party supporters who would prefer the PNM and the PP in a run-off situation is also a statistical tie: 19 per cent each for the PNM and the PP.

Stability of the Current Situation

As may be expected in the marginal constituencies, although the race is tight many voters admit that they may change their support within the coming months. Overall, of those voters who currently have a favourite, 32 per cent will likely reconsider their options; only 50 per cent said that their choice is unlikely to change, while the remaining 18 per cent are not sure.
The Partnership’s supporters are twice as likely to be “soft” in their support as the PNM’s supporters. As many as 43 per cent of PP supporters are likely to reconsider their choice, while about two-thirds of PNM supporters say that they are very unlikely to reconsider their choice within the coming months.
The major groups of voters who are wavering in their support are voters of mixed race and Indo-Trinidadian voters in the Moruga/Tableland constituency. This may mean that the competition in Moruga/Tableland may tighten as we draw nearer to the election.

Methodology

This survey was commissioned as exclusive research for the Express Newspapers and conducted by Solution by Simulation. Six hundred and thirty-five (635) persons were interviewed during the period November 18th - Nov 21st 2014 via Interactive Voice Response (IVR) and live telephone calls.
An address-based sampling frame was used which involves matching publicly available landline numbers to their constituencies by address. Telephone numbers were then selected by a weighted random generator such that the number of dials into each polling division was proportional to the number of voters in that polling division. Respondents within households had to be at least 18 years old (of voting age) and willing to participate. The margin of error is +/- 3.9 percentage points in the overall sample and +/- 8.1 percentage points in results presented by constituency. Data was weighted by constituency.

Undecided voters in the marginal constituencies are almost twice as likely to be women as men, and they are much more likely to be of mixed ethnicity than any other ethnicity. Most of them have not formed a firm opinion of the major candidates for Prime Minister, and the majority of them are not traditional supporters of any particular political party. About half of them think they will form an opinion by Election Day. More than any other segment of society, they are most interested in a party who can directly provide benefits to ordinary people.

About Solution by Simulation
Solution by Simulation (SBS) is a data analysis firm which uses computer modelling to probe and provide insight into human behaviour. SBS provides market research and data analysis services for a number of commercial, academic, and civil society clients. SBS was founded by Nigel AR Henry, BS (Yale) MA (GWU), following Mr Henry’s service as the lead numerical analyst for the Southeast US for Obama for America campaign. SBS debuted in Trinidad and Tobago producing the only published poll to forecast the 12-0 victory of the PNM in the 2013 THA Elections. Over five elections in 2013 and 2014, Solution by Simulation has proven to be consistently accurate in its pre-election polling.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #104 on: December 01, 2014, 11:07:09 PM »

PNM condemns ‘racist’ posters


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PNM-condemns--racist-posters-284413291.html
 
The People’s National Movement (PNM) has said it viewed “with great disgust” certain activities at the weekend where posters purporting to have originated from the party were placed on several vehicles.

“These posters contained vile racist and seditious comments clearly designed to create hatred, fear and division in our country,” Faris Al-Rawi, the PNM’s public relations officer, said yesterday.

“This is a repeat of two heinous incidents, the first of which was at the recent march through Port of Spain where racist placards were displayed and were later determined to have been distributed by unknown persons to paid troublemakers.

“And, the second of which was the placement of equally racist posters, again purported to have originated from the PNM, on several vehicles at the PNM’s immensely successful Divali celebration this year,” he added.

Al-Rawi said in both instances the PNM called for the perpetrators to be charged by the police, adding that “this incident is no different”.
“The tragic idiocy of these messages of hate benefits no one other than those desperate to maintain division in an attempt to stop the solid ascendancy of the PNM
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“There is no place in Trinidad and Tobago for any form of racism and the PNM condemns such acts in the strongest possible terms.”
He said “if this is what the PNM’s opponents have started their election campaigns with, our good citizens should be wary of what is still to come and should collectively denounce and hold with greatest intolerance the desperate actions of the wickedly insidious”.

A general election is due here in 2015 and the latest tracking poll published by the Sunday Express newspaper in four constituencies considered to be marginal and most likely to determine the winner of next year’s poll, shows the race between the People’s Partnership (PP) and the People’s National Movement (PNM) is literally a photo finish with just two constituencies – San Fernando West and St Joseph – too close to call.
There are 41 seats at stake in the election.

“I think it is a very encouraging poll given where we were this time last year, it is very clear last year in our mid terms we were much lower in the polls,” Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar said.

Al-Rawi said the PNM was confident of winning the 2015 general election.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #105 on: December 02, 2014, 11:42:33 PM »
Dookeran’s Tunapuna seat in jeopardy
MP not impressed by the poll results

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Dookerans-Tunapuna-seat-in-jeopardy-284550631.html

  Tunapuna MP Winston Dookeran says he is not fazed by an Express tracking poll which predicts the People’s National Movement (PNM) would win that constituency seat as now was the time for pollsters to make money.

“This is a guava season for pollsters, it is the time for them to make their money,” Dookeran told the Express by phone yesterday.
Dookeran won the Tunapuna marginal seat under a Congress of the People (COP) ticket as part of the People’s Partnership Government in 2010. He defeated then PNM candidate Esther LeGendre.

The Express-commissioned poll by Nigel Henry’s Solution by Stimulation (SBS) tracks the likely voting patterns in marginal constituencies in the lead up to the 2015 general election.

This week’s  poll targeted eligible voters in Moruga/Tableland, Tunapuna, San Fernando West and St Joseph.
These have been determined to be the marginal constituencies most likely to determine the winner in the 2015 elections.
It shows the race between the People’s Partnership (PP) and the PNM is literally a photo finish with just two constituencies—San Fernando West and St Joseph—too close to call, and each of them almost exactly tied in the polling sample.

The Partnership has a clear lead in Moruga/Tableland and the PNM is ahead in Tunapuna.
Dookeran said he continues to give his best and serve the people and was not affected by any poll results.
He noted he has fought six elections and represented three constituencies during his political career so far—Tunapuna, St Augustine and Chaguanas.

Dookeran opted not to discuss whether he will be defending the Tunapuna seat in next year’s general election.
“Politics is not just about representation to the people, representation is also an important part of  how people behave,” said Dookeran.
No PNM candidate has been named yet to contest the Tunapuna seat as the party continues its screening.
      —Anna Ramdass

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #106 on: December 04, 2014, 11:17:40 PM »

What we seeing is another PNM vs UNC election. How many seats can the COP, TOP or MSJ can confidently say they will bring home for the PP?

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #107 on: December 05, 2014, 04:07:44 AM »
Are we nine months away?
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« Reply #108 on: December 05, 2014, 06:45:10 AM »
Are we nine months away?

What! Your wife expecting.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #109 on: December 05, 2014, 08:15:48 AM »

What we seeing is another PNM vs UNC election. How many seats can the COP, TOP or MSJ can confidently say they will bring home for the PP?

MSJ is no longer part of the PP and COP and TOP not winning any seats for the PP.
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« Reply #110 on: December 05, 2014, 08:17:57 AM »
Are we nine months away?

According to the country's constitution elections must be held by May 2015 (within 5 years of last elections date) unless there is a State of Emergency where a 3 month extention can be given to take it to August 2015.
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« Reply #111 on: December 05, 2014, 09:34:27 AM »
Actually that part being argued. I think the constitution allows for parliament automatically dissolving five years after it first held...which is like June. And due to emergency it could be 3 months after.


Edit:

Winford James in his normal style analysis of the issue:

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Story Created: Dec 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM ECT
Story Updated: Dec 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM ECT
In an article of September 26, Peter Taylor, a former minister in Patrick Manning’s last star-crossed administration, observed as follows:
“The last general election was held in Trinidad and Tobago on May 24, 2010 and therefore the Government’s five-year term of office ends on May 23, 2015. (…) The Government is therefore morally and constitutionally obliged to call the general election no later than May 23, 2015.”
And at the recent People’s National Movement (PNM) convention on November 16, Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley is reported to have stated that the life of the Parliament ends in June 2014 and a general election can only be held in the 90-day period following June 2015 if there is an emergency.
These two observations were reactions to the declaration by the PM and the AG that the general election can be officially called by September 2015.
So who is right? And more importantly, how can we know?
The Government holds that the 2015 general election can be held in September. The Opposition holds that it must be held in June. And Mr Taylor holds that it should not only be held in May but gives the latest date by which it must be: May 23! Indeed, Mr Taylor says he is preparing to take the matter to court for a determination! How can the understanding of these four people on this matter be so diverse?
Mrs Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Anand Ramlogan are both lawyers—Senior Counsel, if you please—and the former has been in Parliament for over a decade. Dr Rowley is not a lawyer (though his wife and his party’s public relation officer are!) but he has been in Parliament for over two decades. And Mr Taylor is a lawyer and also spent some time as a minister in Mr Manning’s ill-fated government. And yet they have all come up with different months!
What therefore should the man-in-the-street think? What should your columnist think?
Unfortunately, your columnist is not a lawyer, and he may not even qualify as the lowest form of lawyer —the bushie. But, fortunately, he has been dealing with texts and discourses all his life, and has taught text and discourse analysis (what is popularly called “comprehension’’) all of his working life. Using that experience, he has gone to the place where the authorising text lives—the Constitution. He allows that our four protagonists may have gone to the constitution before making their pronouncements, but he has no proof that they did. Indeed, if he were to go by Mr Taylor’s written article as an example, he finds no invocation of the relevant clause(s) and, consequently, no analysis of it/them. How, he wonders, can one argue for a specific election date without reference to an authorising text or, in its absence, an authorising convention?
Of course, it is appreciated that texts are not necessarily self-explanatory but almost always need to be interpreted. It is further appreciated that a robust interpretation depends in part on the cross-referencing of many texts, which may not be feasible in one column, and in further part on contextual knowledge, which is quite feasible. But we need to go to text in any case. Let’s focus on part III of the Constitution “Summoning, prorogation and dissolution’’ and start with clause 67. (1): “Each session of Parliament shall be held at such place within Trinidad and Tobago and shall commence at such time as the President may by proclamation appoint.’’
We are currently with our tenth Parliament and, if memory serves me right, it was “appointed’’ on June 18, 2010. Let’s go next to 68. (2): “…Parliament, unless sooner dissolved, shall continue for five years from the date of its first sitting after any dissolution, and shall then stand dissolved.’’ The tenth Parliament started sitting on June 18, 2010 when it elected Wade Mark as Speaker. If we count five years from that date, we get June 17, 2015.
Is this why Dr Rowley seemed to be saying that the election should be held in June 2015?
Let’s go thirdly to 69 (1): “A general election of members of the House of Representatives shall be held at such time within three months after every dissolution of Parliament as the President, acting in accordance with the advice of the PM, shall appoint.’’
This clause is saying that within 90 days (if we allow 30 days per month) after June 17, the general election must be held. Ninety days takes us to Tuesday, September 15, 2015. Is this why the PM and the AG have been insisting that the election can be called in September?
(To be continued)

Which again leads me to wonder: If a run off supposed to be held within 15 days of the EBC confirming the result..which...even if elections held on 15th Sept.....wouldnt the run offs etc happen in October..meaning this year's budget would have expired..meaning the country would not have a budget in place?

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #112 on: December 05, 2014, 05:05:12 PM »
Actually that part being argued. I think the constitution allows for parliament automatically dissolving five years after it first held...which is like June. And due to emergency it could be 3 months after.


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Winford James in his normal style analysis of the issue:

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In an article of September 26, Peter Taylor, a former minister in Patrick Manning’s last star-crossed administration, observed as follows:
“The last general election was held in Trinidad and Tobago on May 24, 2010 and therefore the Government’s five-year term of office ends on May 23, 2015. (…) The Government is therefore morally and constitutionally obliged to call the general election no later than May 23, 2015.”
And at the recent People’s National Movement (PNM) convention on November 16, Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley is reported to have stated that the life of the Parliament ends in June 2014 and a general election can only be held in the 90-day period following June 2015 if there is an emergency.
These two observations were reactions to the declaration by the PM and the AG that the general election can be officially called by September 2015.
So who is right? And more importantly, how can we know?
The Government holds that the 2015 general election can be held in September. The Opposition holds that it must be held in June. And Mr Taylor holds that it should not only be held in May but gives the latest date by which it must be: May 23! Indeed, Mr Taylor says he is preparing to take the matter to court for a determination! How can the understanding of these four people on this matter be so diverse?
Mrs Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Anand Ramlogan are both lawyers—Senior Counsel, if you please—and the former has been in Parliament for over a decade. Dr Rowley is not a lawyer (though his wife and his party’s public relation officer are!) but he has been in Parliament for over two decades. And Mr Taylor is a lawyer and also spent some time as a minister in Mr Manning’s ill-fated government. And yet they have all come up with different months!
What therefore should the man-in-the-street think? What should your columnist think?
Unfortunately, your columnist is not a lawyer, and he may not even qualify as the lowest form of lawyer —the bushie. But, fortunately, he has been dealing with texts and discourses all his life, and has taught text and discourse analysis (what is popularly called “comprehension’’) all of his working life. Using that experience, he has gone to the place where the authorising text lives—the Constitution. He allows that our four protagonists may have gone to the constitution before making their pronouncements, but he has no proof that they did. Indeed, if he were to go by Mr Taylor’s written article as an example, he finds no invocation of the relevant clause(s) and, consequently, no analysis of it/them. How, he wonders, can one argue for a specific election date without reference to an authorising text or, in its absence, an authorising convention?
Of course, it is appreciated that texts are not necessarily self-explanatory but almost always need to be interpreted. It is further appreciated that a robust interpretation depends in part on the cross-referencing of many texts, which may not be feasible in one column, and in further part on contextual knowledge, which is quite feasible. But we need to go to text in any case. Let’s focus on part III of the Constitution “Summoning, prorogation and dissolution’’ and start with clause 67. (1): “Each session of Parliament shall be held at such place within Trinidad and Tobago and shall commence at such time as the President may by proclamation appoint.’’
We are currently with our tenth Parliament and, if memory serves me right, it was “appointed’’ on June 18, 2010. Let’s go next to 68. (2): “…Parliament, unless sooner dissolved, shall continue for five years from the date of its first sitting after any dissolution, and shall then stand dissolved.’’ The tenth Parliament started sitting on June 18, 2010 when it elected Wade Mark as Speaker. If we count five years from that date, we get June 17, 2015.
Is this why Dr Rowley seemed to be saying that the election should be held in June 2015?
Let’s go thirdly to 69 (1): “A general election of members of the House of Representatives shall be held at such time within three months after every dissolution of Parliament as the President, acting in accordance with the advice of the PM, shall appoint.’’
This clause is saying that within 90 days (if we allow 30 days per month) after June 17, the general election must be held. Ninety days takes us to Tuesday, September 15, 2015. Is this why the PM and the AG have been insisting that the election can be called in September?
(To be continued)

Which again leads me to wonder: If a run off supposed to be held within 15 days of the EBC confirming the result..which...even if elections held on 15th Sept.....wouldnt the run offs etc happen in October..meaning this year's budget would have expired..meaning the country would not have a budget in place?


The elections need to be held by May or June 2015 latest. Any later date is only for emergency purposes.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #113 on: December 06, 2014, 09:21:21 AM »
Election time is Trinidad. I should go back and start a church.

PM: $55m gift for Christian community

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PM-55m-gift-for-Christian-community-284941251.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2014, 10:55:50 AM »
Madness... absolute madness.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #115 on: December 06, 2014, 03:10:33 PM »
probably posted somewhere else already since it was uploaded earlier in the year (not even sure if it should be in this thread)..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egl3h4wl9Po

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #116 on: December 06, 2014, 06:54:19 PM »
... ah see yuh geh a lil big up in ZING magazine! :cheers:

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #117 on: December 06, 2014, 07:00:57 PM »
Election time is Trinidad. I should go back and start a church.

PM: $55m gift for Christian community

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PM-55m-gift-for-Christian-community-284941251.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n


Stupid way to bribe the Christian segment of the electorate. Who will hold the Pastors and Ministers accountable as to how they spend the money?

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #118 on: December 06, 2014, 08:04:36 PM »

PNM screening committee signs off 17 candidates


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Pnm-screening-committee-signs-off-17-candidates-284990621.html


 THE SCREENING committee of the People’s National Movement (PNM) signed off on 17 candidates on Friday with four incumbents and 13 new faces.

Heading the list of incumbents is the Leader of the Opposition, Dr Keith Rowley who retained the Diego Martin West constituency while the current MP for St Joseph, Terrence Deyalsingh received the nod from the committee to campaign for the marginal seat.

Diego Martin North East also went back to its current MP, Colm Imbert while Marlene Mc Donald got the right to campaign for the Port of Spain South seat.

Ashton Ford, the PNM’s general secretary also gave the names of the other approved candidates but took pains to mention that although the list is not yet completed those chosen are expected to quietly begin campaigning, “on the ground”.

He had no information with regard to former prime minister Patrick Manning who recently indicated his willingness to contest the San Fernando East seat.

The Sunday Express understands that Manning is currently in Cuba undergoing a medical check-up. Manning had also indicated via his Facebook page that given the results of his examination he will give his final decision to the party’s screening committee whether he will contest the seat or not.

Among the newer faces on the party’s campaign trail is Clarence Rambharat who was chosen to contest the Mayaro seat while Couva South will be contested by Alif Mohammed.

San Fernando West will be contested by Senator Faris Al-Rawi while former newspaper editor Maxie Cuffie will contest the La Horquetta/Talparo seat.

Facing the campaign trail for D’Abadie/O’Meara will be Brigadier Ancil Antoine while attorney Stuart Young will be contesting Port of Spain North/St Ann’s West and Neil Mohammed will be contesting the Pointe-a-Pierre seat.

Others include Terry Shaun Jadoonanan for Oropouche, Cherrie-Ann Crichlow-Cockburn for Lopinot/Bon Air West and Alisha Romano for St Augustine.

Former news anchor Dianne Baldeo-Chadeesingh was given the nod to contest the Chaguanas East seat while Chaguanas West will be contested by Abbegail Nandalal and Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly will fight to retain the St Ann’s East seat for the party.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #119 on: December 06, 2014, 10:10:54 PM »

 

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