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Sports => Football => Topic started by: dinho on November 03, 2009, 10:48:42 AM
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I know its early but I cant wait for sunday to see Chelsea put the hurt on this shitty, lucky Man United one man side.. looks like Carrick done quaking already...
Carrick: We can't afford to lose
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10304064/Carrick:-We-can%27t-afford-to-lose (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10304064/Carrick:-We-can%27t-afford-to-lose)
Michael Carrick has stressed the importance of Manchester United avoiding defeat at Chelsea next weekend as they bid to keep pace at the top.
United bounced back from their defeat at Liverpool by defeating Blackburn 2-0 on Saturday and Carrick is determined they pick up another good result at Stamford Bridge.
Carrick said: "It is always a big game at Stamford Bridge, no matter what the occasion is.
"When it is tight at the top like it is, after the defeat to Liverpool we do not want to lose track on the big teams and it will be an important game for us.
"At this stage of the season it is just about accumulating points and seeing where you are in the later stages.
"The table is changing week in, week out but after Christmas things tend to settle down a bit.
"Then maybe you get one or two that pull away - and hopefully we will included in that. You've just got to believe in yourself and if you do, anything can happen." ..... (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10304064/Carrick:-We-can%27t-afford-to-lose)
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Man United is ah one man side??? ??? who berba? ? fletcher? VDS? evra?giggs?
and doh look for no set ah goal either....reference d community shield
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My heart say 4-0, my head says 3-0
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Man United is ah one man side??? ??? who berba? ? fletcher? VDS? evra?giggs?
and doh look for no set ah goal either....reference d community shield
On Sunday it will be Chelsea vs Van Der Sar
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As a Arsenal man I ideally want a 2-2 draw....with Lampard scoring to help boost meh fantasy side and salt all the people with Manu and Chelsea defenders.
But come Sun...I want Chelsea wash manu arse going and coming. I want drogba and anelka to just tear up that manu backline and score 3.
Essien going and deal with giggs, nani, carrick or whoever else in that midfield.
Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea :devil: :devil: :devil:
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I am managing an event at Trotters on Sunday for the game.
Come on down and enjoy the atmosphere.
More info below:
Trotters Match Day presents Super Sunday: Chelsea vs Manchester United Facebook Event (http://www.facebook.com/events.php?ref=sb#/event.php?eid=165380023045&index=1)
Trotters Match Day Fan Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Port-Of-Spain-Trinidad-and-Tobago/Trotters-Match-Day/182445712520)
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I am managing an event at Trotters on Sunday for the game.
Come on down and enjoy the atmosphere.
More info below:
Trotters Match Day presents Super Sunday: Chelsea vs Manchester United Facebook Event (http://www.facebook.com/events.php?ref=sb#/event.php?eid=165380023045&index=1)
Trotters Match Day Fan Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Port-Of-Spain-Trinidad-and-Tobago/Trotters-Match-Day/182445712520)
Lawd, somebody put you in charge ah dey sumting??
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Steups...I will probably be in transit at the time between both islands....steups!!!....
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Steups...I will probably be in transit at the time between both islands....steups!!!....
Oh gawd... yuh does go Tobago regular. Stop show-offing nah.
lol
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Steups...I will probably be in transit at the time between both islands....steups!!!....
Oh gawd... yuh does go Tobago regular. Stop show-offing nah.
lol
Ah have some construction going on at mom's house over there so I'm going more often that I usually would to see how things going. Additionally, the football team at my work place going across for an annual tournament and the lime does be nice. I eh missing that for nutten... ;D
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Steups...I will probably be in transit at the time between both islands....steups!!!....
Oh gawd... yuh does go Tobago regular. Stop show-offing nah.
lol
Ah have some construction going on at mom's house over there so I'm going more often that I usually would to see how things going. Additionally, the football team at my work place going across for an annual tournament and the lime does be nice. I eh missing that for nutten... ;D
Option A, B or C goin? 8)
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Steups...I will probably be in transit at the time between both islands....steups!!!....
Oh gawd... yuh does go Tobago regular. Stop show-offing nah.
lol
Ah have some construction going on at mom's house over there so I'm going more often that I usually would to see how things going. Additionally, the football team at my work place going across for an annual tournament and the lime does be nice. I eh missing that for nutten... ;D
Option A, B or C goin? 8)
Stop trying to mind mih business.... ;D
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Ah have some construction going on at mom's house over there so I'm going more often that I usually would to see how things going. Additionally, the football team at my work place going across for an annual tournament and the lime does be nice. I eh missing that for nutten... ;D
Eh heh... you juss cyah wait tuh show we how "sophisticated" yuh is.
Dai's arrite, one ah deez days yuh go be posting from Alaska or Siberia... we go see who laffin' den.
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Fergie ress some ah he "big guns" today (lyin' and sayin' dey....."injured") tryin' to come up wit a big game dis weekend......dey cut arse book! I lookin' for Drogba, Anelka, Lampard AND Kalou to score! ;D
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My heart say 4-0, my head says 3-0
:rotfl: lol Chelsea is in better form...but in these kinda games "form is temporary, class is permanent" is usually the more appropriate rule of thumb...case in point Liverpool- Man U 2 weekends ago....big teams rise to the occasion and make a go of it regardless of current form.
anybody's game...
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This should be a good game, I say it will end 1-1
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My heart say 4-0, my head says 3-0
:rotfl: lol Chelsea is in better form...but in these kinda games "form is temporary, class is permanent" is usually the more appropriate rule of thumb...case in point Liverpool- Man U 2 weekends ago....big teams rise to the occasion and make a go of it regardless of current form.
anybody's game...
Well, over the past few years, Chelsea have shown that when they in good form, manu is not in their class eh :devil:......manu gettin' hung out to dry this weekend. (unless the refs giddem a hand)
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Fergie ress some ah he "big guns" today (lyin' and sayin' dey....."injured") tryin' to come up wit a big game dis weekend......dey cut arse book! I lookin' for Drogba, Anelka, Lampard AND Kalou to score! ;D
i lookin for cech an all to score :devil:
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Fergie ress some ah he "big guns" today (lyin' and sayin' dey....."injured") tryin' to come up wit a big game dis weekend......dey cut arse book! I lookin' for Drogba, Anelka, Lampard AND Kalou to score! ;D
i lookin for cech an all to score :devil:
Dat would be nice......long as it eh a "og" ;D
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when is d kick off local time?
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when is d kick off local time?
11am on Fox Soccer Channel.
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Carlo: Blues must play as a team to beat United
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10333292/Carlo:-Blues-must-play-as-a-team-to-beat-United (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/10333292/Carlo:-Blues-must-play-as-a-team-to-beat-United)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46681000/jpg/_46681870_drogba226x282.jpg)
Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti believes his side must play as a team to beat Manchester United on Sunday.
The Blues go into the top-of-the-table clash in top form, including thumping successes over Bolton and Blackburn in the league.
But while Didier Drogba is arguably Europe's top striker at present, Ancelotti believes his side can only win if they play as a team.
He said: "He's doing very well for the team, but not only Didier is doing well, all the squad are in good condition and doing very well.
"To win against Manchester United, we cannot win only thanks to Didier's work. We can only win if we play like a team."
Ancelotti also played down the significance of the tie, saying it was about three points, like every other game.
He said: "Psychologically, it will not mean more.
"We have to play against a strong team. We will play against the second team in the list of the Premier League, but I think that it's just a game that carries three points like the others.
"It's a very important game. It's important because we play against a fantastic team, but we know very well that it will be a very difficult match but also a very interesting one.
"We are happy to play this game at this moment. I think we are doing very well, we are in good condition and we have a very good mental attitude."
The former AC Milan boss also played down his first meeting with Sir Alex Ferguson as Chelsea manager in the Premier League.
Ancelotti added: "I think Manchester United have a very good team.
"Like us, they are doing very well because they have qualified in the Champions League and have done very well in the Premier League.
"Sometimes against Ferguson I've won. Sometimes he's won. But it's not a match between Ancelotti and Ferguson. It's Chelsea v Manchester United.
"I have a very good relationship with Ferguson. I think that he's one of the best coaches in the world. He has won a lot of trophies and I have respect for him."
But Ancelotti will not entertain the idea that the title race is a two-horse affair between them and United, citing a rejuvenated Arsenal as being very much in the mix.
"I think Arsenal have good possibilities to arrive in first place," he added.
"We can't think about Liverpool at this moment because they are behind, but Arsenal have a very good team and a very good chance to win."
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when is d kick off local time?
11am on Fox Soccer Channel.
12pm TT time on Sportsmax
Remember to come on down to Trotters for Trotters Match Day presents Super Sunday:Chelsea vs Manchester United
see my previous post in the thread for details
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Man United is ah one man side??? ??? who berba? ? fletcher? VDS? evra?giggs?
and doh look for no set ah goal either....reference d community shield
Ronaldo ;D
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Deadly Drogba on the charge
Soccernet.com
Sunday witnesses a highly-significant clash in the Premier League as reigning champions Manchester United and league leaders Chelsea meet at Stamford Bridge. If the Castrol Rankings are any indication, then Sir Alex Ferguson’s side should be a touch concerned.
We focus on the two striking partnerships at the disposal of Carlo Ancelotti and Sir Alex Ferguson; namely Nicolas Anelka and Didier Drogba versus Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov.
On first glance, the latest rankings, released on Friday, do not make pretty reading for Red Devils fans. While Chelsea boast Drogba in 23rd place and Anelka in 27th, Rooney is 34th and Berbatov is all the way down in 93rd.
It marks quite a turnaround from last month’s rankings when Drogba was sat in 73rd, but a brilliant run of form from the Ivorian has seen him surge up the table. Indeed, his performance in Chelsea’s 4-0 destruction of Bolton recently earned him the Castrol EDGE Performance of the Month award and he was also the biggest mover in this month’s rankings of any player across the elite leagues.
As well as winning a penalty and then scoring himself, the Castrol stats demonstrated that Drogba set up five scoring opportunities for team-mates against Bolton, underlining the kind of selfless work that has seen him shine under Ancelotti this season.
While Rooney and Berbatov’s cumulative tally of goals for the season (11) is only marginally worse than Drogba and Anelka’s (12), the rankings take into account performances over a lengthy period and with Berbatov failing to live up to his hefty price tag, it appears that Chelsea’s partnership is the one that is dovetailing to greater effect.
And with United looking to prevent Chelsea opening up a five-point gap at the top of the table, that will not make pretty reading for Ferguson as he prepares for a daunting visit to Stamford Bridge.
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BM here..Small mag debut event at Trotters..come down and support him
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My heart say 4-0, my head says 3-0
its going to be much closer brother , 2-1 chelsea .
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BM here..Small mag debut event at Trotters..come down and support him
good stuff small mag.. doh mash up nutten in de people and dem place when allyuh loss eh..
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any online links
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Very lively game... 0-0 in the 42' with ManU dominating possession and chances.
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Very lively game... 0-0 in the 42' with ManU dominating possession and chances.
There is a strong battle for midfield right now, who ever wins it, could go on to win this game.
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Very lively game... 0-0 in the 42' with ManU dominating possession and chances.
Whatever Chinese feed you using to watch the game failing you big time... Man-U dominating possession and chances???
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Very lively game... 0-0 in the 42' with ManU dominating possession and chances.
Whatever Chinese feed you using to watch the game failing you big time... Man-U dominating possession and chances???
It ain't Chelsea!!! If it's anything it equal.
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Very lively game... 0-0 in the 42' with ManU dominating possession and chances.
Whatever Chinese feed you using to watch the game failing you big time... Man-U dominating possession and chances???
u know... i watching the stats and its saying 56% to chelsea, 4 shots on target by chelsea compared to manu's 3 and VDS having to make 3 saves while Cech only 1... he probably trying to tie up the ManUre fans' heads
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Whatever Chinese feed you using to watch the game failing you big time... Man-U dominating possession and chances???
u know... i watching the stats and its saying 56% to chelsea, 4 shots on target by chelsea compared to manu's 3 and VDS having to make 3 saves while Cech only 1... he probably trying to tie up the ManUre fans' heads
Well post allyuh own muddac**t report... it not that hard. Even at halftime most of the highlights showed ManU. chances, not all ah dem on target so it wouldn't necessarily show up as a shot on goal.
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
cheap foul by Drogba on Brown in the box. Ref having a poor game on both sides
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Whatever Chinese feed you using to watch the game failing you big time... Man-U dominating possession and chances???
u know... i watching the stats and its saying 56% to chelsea, 4 shots on target by chelsea compared to manu's 3 and VDS having to make 3 saves while Cech only 1... he probably trying to tie up the ManUre fans' heads
Well post allyuh own muddac**t report... it not that hard. Even at halftime most of the highlights showed ManU. chances, not all ah dem on target so it wouldn't necessarily show up as a shot on goal.
hard lucks dred... i getting two reports that were seeming to be conflicting... note i aint seeing the game. i checking the bpl site every couple mins to read the commentary. lol :beermug:
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Small Mag wey yuh!
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Oh gosh, I've seen it all, ah man brushin he teeth in de stands yes, as Drogba comes off :rotfl:
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lmao :rotfl: Did you all see the guy who was brushing his teeth when the subs was being made in the 81'?
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All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
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Oh gosh, I've seen it all, ah man brushin he teeth in de stands yes, as Drogba comes off :rotfl:
I never see more schupidness so... and keeping de toothbrush in de side ah he mouth like is ah toothpick or chew stick.
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All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
cheap foul by Drogba on Brown in the box. Ref having a poor game on both sides
All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
Calm yuh f**kin nerves, jed. manu does get MORE.....much, much more that their fair of distorted calls and decisions. That so-called foul by Drogba on brown is standard play in football when man jostling in the box. Sometimes the refs see and call it, sometimes they don't. (they didn't call the handful of Drogba's shirt I saw o'shea had in the the first half) but how in the WORLD a man could jump high and drop-kick a man in he chest and NEITHER ONE of the officials see dat?! Come on man, get to fack outta here wit yuh alex ferguson reasoning!
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Besides.....even if yuh want to call it a "bitch goal" that Chelsea score, what does it say about manu for conceding it?
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:yapping: :yapping: :yapping: :yapping: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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What happened that there is 5 minutes added on?
Saw the first 20 and seeing the last 10.
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So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
both teams getting away with shit... ah fuhget who foul ah ManU player and Ballack sprint 15 yds to come argue with the ref (call wasn't even on him) and grab Atkinson right shoulder and spin him around so that he could face him. Atkinson juss shoo him away... really?? Ballack not even captain and he arguing vociferously AND making contact with the ref... lol
Ref got the Drogba call horribly wrong though... hard to see the stamp at first glance from the back of the play true, but still. Then the yellow, lol... musse thought Drogba was faking.
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Cry alyuh muddaf@#%er cry bitches.
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAH!!!
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Oh gosh, I've seen it all, ah man brushin he teeth in de stands yes, as Drogba comes off :rotfl:
I eh know where to begin in explaining that one... :rotfl:
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:violin:
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:devil: :devil: :devil:
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Oh gosh, I've seen it all, ah man brushin he teeth in de stands yes, as Drogba comes off :rotfl:
I eh know where to begin in explaining that one... :rotfl:
2nd that....I was like.. wtf
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
cheap foul by Drogba on Brown in the box. Ref having a poor game on both sides
All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
Calm yuh f**kin nerves, jed. manu does get MORE.....much, much more that their fair of distorted calls and decisions. That so-called foul by Drogba on brown is standard play in football when man jostling in the box. Sometimes the refs see and call it, sometimes they don't. (they didn't call the handful of Drogba's shirt I saw o'shea had in the the first half) but how in the WORLD a man could jump high and drop-kick a man in he chest and NEITHER ONE of the officials see dat?! Come on man, get to fack outta here wit yuh alex ferguson reasoning!
yuh come on here trying to make a point about the bad refereeing, well do so!! but is Man.U so yuh decide to use them as an example..... Yuh know what? yuh right!!! Fergie own the BPL HE PAYS ALL THE REFS IN THE LEAGUE.... I'll fax yuh the proof later. If it ain't you is another Man.U hater coming on here with their refs favour Man.U conspiracy BS
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So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
both teams getting away with shit... ah fuhget who foul ah ManU player and Ballack sprint 15 yds to come argue with the ref (call wasn't even on him) and grab Atkinson right shoulder and spin him around so that he could face him. Atkinson juss shoo him away... really?? Ballack not even captain and he arguing vociferously AND making contact with the ref... lol
Ref got the Drogba call horribly wrong though... hard to see the stamp at first glance from the back of the play true, but still. Then the yellow, lol... musse thought Drogba was faking.
That's exactly what I said, I said the ref was having a bad game on both sides... but it have people on here think the ref dancing to Fergie's fiddle.
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PS. Congrats Chelsea fans on yuh win!!! (seriously)
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Oh gosh, I've seen it all, ah man brushin he teeth in de stands yes, as Drogba comes off :rotfl:
I eh know where to begin in explaining that one... :rotfl:
2nd that....I was like.. wtf
3rd that.... had to be a black man eh, coasting with he darkers and toothbrush. steups
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scrappy affair.. probably the wildest game i saw all season.
that evans tackle is crack ribs business. real stink, stink frigging play and i hope he gets a retroactive ban.
CHELSEA FOR CHAMPIONS!!!!
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
cheap foul by Drogba on Brown in the box. Ref having a poor game on both sides
All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
Calm yuh f**kin nerves, jed. manu does get MORE.....much, much more that their fair of distorted calls and decisions. That so-called foul by Drogba on brown is standard play in football when man jostling in the box. Sometimes the refs see and call it, sometimes they don't. (they didn't call the handful of Drogba's shirt I saw o'shea had in the the first half) but how in the WORLD a man could jump high and drop-kick a man in he chest and NEITHER ONE of the officials see dat?! Come on man, get to fack outta here wit yuh alex ferguson reasoning!
yuh come on here trying to make a point about the bad refereeing, well do so!! but is Man.U so yuh decide to use them as an example..... Yuh know what? yuh right!!! Fergie own the BPL HE PAYS ALL THE REFS IN THE LEAGUE.... I'll fax yuh the proof later. If it ain't you is another Man.U hater coming on here with their refs favour Man.U conspiracy BS
Boss, hush yuh cyat and be honest wit yuh self nuh. Who better to use as an example of inconsistent officiating in the epl than manchester united? Much less the QUALITY of the calls.....look how you bitchin' 'bout some foul by Drogba on brown...like I said before, a tug on his shirt or something that is STANDARD play when men jostling for position.....how do you compare that to the drop-kick Drogba get? Even if the ref didn't have a good view from behind the play how does the linesman NOT see that blatant jackie chan move?! Allyuh manu fans must learn to take the bad with all the good allyuh does get. What goes around, comes around, turnabout is fair play, yada yada yada......take allyuh losses as boisterous as allyuh does celebrate allyuh victories...but wait.....ah guess dize wha yuh doing now in trute.
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Oh gosh, I've seen it all, ah man brushin he teeth in de stands yes, as Drogba comes off :rotfl:
I eh know where to begin in explaining that one... :rotfl:
2nd that....I was like.. wtf
3rd that.... had to be a black man eh, coasting with he darkers and toothbrush. steups
Would be sometin if dat shit catch on, all yuh need sometimes is a gimmick
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
cheap foul by Drogba on Brown in the box. Ref having a poor game on both sides
All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
Calm yuh f**kin nerves, jed. manu does get MORE.....much, much more that their fair of distorted calls and decisions. That so-called foul by Drogba on brown is standard play in football when man jostling in the box. Sometimes the refs see and call it, sometimes they don't. (they didn't call the handful of Drogba's shirt I saw o'shea had in the the first half) but how in the WORLD a man could jump high and drop-kick a man in he chest and NEITHER ONE of the officials see dat?! Come on man, get to fack outta here wit yuh alex ferguson reasoning!
yuh come on here trying to make a point about the bad refereeing, well do so!! but is Man.U so yuh decide to use them as an example..... Yuh know what? yuh right!!! Fergie own the BPL HE PAYS ALL THE REFS IN THE LEAGUE.... I'll fax yuh the proof later. If it ain't you is another Man.U hater coming on here with their refs favour Man.U conspiracy BS
Boss, hush yuh cyat and be honest wit yuh self nuh. Who better to use as an example of inconsistent officiating in the epl than manchester united? Much less the QUALITY of the calls.....look how you bitchin' 'bout some foul by Drogba on brown...like I said before, a tug on his shirt or something that is STANDARD play when men jostling for position.....how do you compare that to the drop-kick Drogba get? Even if the ref didn't have a good view from behind the play how does the linesman NOT see that blatant jackie chan move?! Allyuh manu fans must learn to take the bad with all the good allyuh does get. What goes around, comes around, turnabout is fair play, yada yada yada......take allyuh losses as boisterous as allyuh does celebrate allyuh victories...but wait.....ah guess dize wha yuh doing now in trute.
Hush my cyat? Ok!! HUSH Mango Chow! I mentioned the Brown foul once, you're the one talking BS, like I said talk bout the bad ref, why yuh have to use Man.U as an example? I know, cause you're one of those that does get nightmares when they win or tie a game. I done win you, bump yuh cyber gum and your think yuh know football brain on here, this is my last response.
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So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
both teams getting away with shit... ah fuhget who foul ah ManU player and Ballack sprint 15 yds to come argue with the ref (call wasn't even on him) and grab Atkinson right shoulder and spin him around so that he could face him. Atkinson juss shoo him away... really?? Ballack not even captain and he arguing vociferously AND making contact with the ref... lol
Ref got the Drogba call horribly wrong though... hard to see the stamp at first glance from the back of the play true, but still. Then the yellow, lol... musse thought Drogba was faking.
That's exactly what I said, I said the ref was having a bad game on both sides... but it have people on here think the ref dancing to Fergie's fiddle.
doh study them fellas, they eh see when chelsea own player was injured and they run up the whole field to try to score but soon as utd going to counter attack they telling the ref to stop play and he did. I suppose they feel is fergie tell the ref to stop the game.
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Curious call by Martin Atkinson... 50-50 aerial ball and Drogba and Evans collide in the ManU penalty area. Ref indicate foul on Drogba... and at first blush seemed the correct call. On replay Evans clearly come thru with a flying jumpkick that ketch Drogba right under the right pec, Drogba writhing on the ground in apparent ( ::)) agony. Looked like a straight red on Evans to be fair... ref instead show Drogba a yellow.
All's well that ends well I suppose... Drogba fouls Brown and Terry scores.
1-0 Chelsea in the 76'
Rooney booked for dissent.
cheap foul by Drogba on Brown in the box. Ref having a poor game on both sides
All the fans of football does really ask for from these officials is consistency. The KINDS of things I does see manu and the manager and players does get away with: the tantrums, the posturing and gesticulating, directly at the officials and hardly ever any yellow cards issued.......then plays like the Cantona-esque stamp that Drogba now get a yellow card for.....at Stamford Bridge, no less (because we know a manu player would never get a yellow card for takin' a stamp in he chest @ old trafford eh)...it does really amaze me at how poor the officiating is on football, especially for the league that is arguably the widest marketed league in all of football. Ah could only shake meh head at the lack of consistency.
So is only Man.U deserve yellow cards in this game? F@ck Chelsea, that's a bitch goal, I guess yuh did not see the foul Drogba made on Brown in the box resulting in that weak arse goal.
Calm yuh f**kin nerves, jed. manu does get MORE.....much, much more that their fair of distorted calls and decisions. That so-called foul by Drogba on brown is standard play in football when man jostling in the box. Sometimes the refs see and call it, sometimes they don't. (they didn't call the handful of Drogba's shirt I saw o'shea had in the the first half) but how in the WORLD a man could jump high and drop-kick a man in he chest and NEITHER ONE of the officials see dat?! Come on man, get to fack outta here wit yuh alex ferguson reasoning!
yuh come on here trying to make a point about the bad refereeing, well do so!! but is Man.U so yuh decide to use them as an example..... Yuh know what? yuh right!!! Fergie own the BPL HE PAYS ALL THE REFS IN THE LEAGUE.... I'll fax yuh the proof later. If it ain't you is another Man.U hater coming on here with their refs favour Man.U conspiracy BS
Boss, hush yuh cyat and be honest wit yuh self nuh. Who better to use as an example of inconsistent officiating in the epl than manchester united? Much less the QUALITY of the calls.....look how you bitchin' 'bout some foul by Drogba on brown...like I said before, a tug on his shirt or something that is STANDARD play when men jostling for position.....how do you compare that to the drop-kick Drogba get? Even if the ref didn't have a good view from behind the play how does the linesman NOT see that blatant jackie chan move?! Allyuh manu fans must learn to take the bad with all the good allyuh does get. What goes around, comes around, turnabout is fair play, yada yada yada......take allyuh losses as boisterous as allyuh does celebrate allyuh victories...but wait.....ah guess dize wha yuh doing now in trute.
Hush my cyat? Ok!! HUSH Mango Chow! I mentioned the Brown foul once, you're the one talking BS, like I said talk bout the bad ref, why yuh have to use Man.U as an example? I know, cause you're one of those that does get nightmares when they win or tie a game. I done win you, bump yuh cyber gum and your think yuh know football brain on here, this is my last response.
Don't say it will be your last response, bredda. Just do it. But take dis wit yuh: dat so-called foul by Drogba on brown, (dat yuh only mention once) is the kinda foul refs should/could call every time a corner or free-kick is taken into an 18-yard box and doesn't compare as a "non-call" or a bad call as the drop kick + yellow card on Drogba. Even if Ballack shoulda get a card for accosting the referee the way he did, look at fletcher and dem and how they was berating the ref whole game.....dat is standard behaviour fuh allyuh team. Rooney FINALLY get a yellow card for dissent.....after how many incidents? My point is, if, for once, allyuh get a bad call go against yuh, or even cost alluyh a game, get to f**k OVER it. Allyuh does benefit from that shit time and time and time again. In other words, hush yuh cyat and take allyuh loss.
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big team is big forkin team! :beermug:
hard luck man u fans
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Always nice to see a Manure comeuppance even though the game itself was SHITTY.
Even nicer is when dey resort to bitchin and moanin ad infinitum bout it.
Evans WILL get a suspension for that tackle but it will be relatively meaningless as they'll simply bring in Ferdinand to replace him.
The most shocking thing about this game for me is Rooney actually getting a yellow card for dissent from the ref. He does it every game, oftentimes worse and nothing ever happens. Watch for another self righteous Alex Ferguson slanderous attack on de ref...with minimal if any consequences....as usual.
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Man United came out to disrupt Drogba. Early on in the game, Drogba and Wes Brown chased a ball that Essien sent through, Drogba tried to get around Wes Brown who take ah dive and get a freekick. Brown then cussed Drogba out and it started from there. Evans then started with he wild man tactics.
Man United had possession a lot when the game started, but for that possesion they had to settle with all their Mids playing deep, thereby taking longer to transition and giving Essien time to build when Chelsea did get the ball.
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Fergie unhappy with ref after Chelsea defeat
Soccernet.com
Sir Alex Ferguson claimed referee Martin Atkinson's decisions which led to Chelsea's winning goal at Stamford Bridge on Sunday were the kind which lead managers and players to "lose faith in refereeing.
Atkinson awarded a free-kick for Darren Fletcher's challenge on Ashley Cole, and Wes Brown appeared to be impeded as Frank Lampard's delivery was turned into the net.
An unhappy Ferguson told Sky Sports: "Clearly, Darren Fletcher's won the ball - Ashley Cole's never touched and has jumped up in the air - and then (Didier) Drogba's pulled Brown to the ground for the goal.
"The referee's position to make the decision was absolutely ridiculous, he can't see anything. He's got a Chelsea player (Joe Cole) standing right in front of him and he doesn't even move.
"It was a bad decision, but there's nothing we can do about it. You lose faith in refereeing sometimes, that's the way the players are talking in there - it was a bad one."
But Ferguson stopped short of blaming Atkinson for his side's defeat, admitting instead they should have taken the chances they created.
"That goal should never have been allowed. We've dominated the game; we've had great chances to win the match - and that's our fault," he said. "We had great opportunities to get to the edge of the box and some really good chances in and around the box, but we should be finishing it off.
"We've only ourselves to blame in that respect. But you do need a break - and we never got the break we needed."
He admitted the defeat - United's third on the road this season - was more significant than their recent 2-0 reverse at another rival club, Liverpool.
"The fact is Chelsea go five points clear of us," he said. "The defeat to Liverpool didn't affect our position in the league - that affects our position in the sense that if we'd have won we'd have gone top today."
Captain John Terry praised Chelsea's team effort as they shut out United despite facing sustained pressure.
Terry said: "Another clean sheet for us today, we talk about the attacking players and midfielders coming back and working hard for the team and that's exactly what we got today.
"(The five-point lead) was exactly what we wanted coming into the game, we've been working on it all week. That wasn't the best of games but I think overall we deserved it."
The scorer of the goal was unclear, with both Terry and team-mate Nicolas Anelka appearing to make contact with Lampard's free-kick on its way into the net.
Terry said: "I got a touch on it but I think maybe Nico got the second touch - but I'm still claiming it!
"I was watching the stats before the game and I've never scored against them home and away, but Nico's been brilliant today so he deserves it."
Anelka added: "I don't know, I think I touched the ball but maybe John will claim it. I touched the ball but I don't know what happened after that, we will see on TV."
"We played good football and we had some chances but we stayed compact in defence and managed to score one goal.
"It's very good, we wanted to win because we know United are a big rival for the league and it's always good to have five points on top of United."
Terry played down appeals for a first-half penalty to United after his challenge on winger Antonio Valencia, telling Sky Sports 1: "I just got my body in between the ball (and Valencia), I'm glad (Atkinson) didn't give it but I didn't think it was anyway."
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Fergie unhappy with ref after Chelsea defeat
Soccernet.com
Sir Alex Ferguson claimed referee Martin Atkinson's decisions which led to Chelsea's winning goal at Stamford Bridge on Sunday were the kind which lead managers and players to "lose faith in refereeing.
Atkinson awarded a free-kick for Darren Fletcher's challenge on Ashley Cole, and Wes Brown appeared to be impeded as Frank Lampard's delivery was turned into the net.
An unhappy Ferguson told Sky Sports: "Clearly, Darren Fletcher's won the ball - Ashley Cole's never touched and has jumped up in the air - and then (Didier) Drogba's pulled Brown to the ground for the goal.
"The referee's position to make the decision was absolutely ridiculous, he can't see anything. He's got a Chelsea player (Joe Cole) standing right in front of him and he doesn't even move.
"It was a bad decision, but there's nothing we can do about it. You lose faith in refereeing sometimes, that's the way the players are talking in there - it was a bad one."
But Ferguson stopped short of blaming Atkinson for his side's defeat, admitting instead they should have taken the chances they created.
"That goal should never have been allowed. We've dominated the game; we've had great chances to win the match - and that's our fault," he said. "We had great opportunities to get to the edge of the box and some really good chances in and around the box, but we should be finishing it off.
"We've only ourselves to blame in that respect. But you do need a break - and we never got the break we needed."
:violin: :violin: :violin: :yapping: :yapping: :yapping:
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Always nice to see a Manure comeuppance even though the game itself was SHITTY.
Even nicer is when dey resort to bitchin and moanin ad infinitum bout it.
Evans WILL get a suspension for that tackle but it will be relatively meaningless as they'll simply bring in Ferdinand to replace him.
The most shocking thing about this game for me is Rooney actually getting a yellow card for dissent from the ref. He does it every game, oftentimes worse and nothing ever happens.
Palos.........I thought everything yuh said up to here was on point
Watch for another self righteous Alex Ferguson slanderous attack on de ref...with minimal if any consequences....as usual.
While I agreed with you, I just didn't think that it woulda happen this way.......Silly me.
By the way, what did fergie say about the six-point stamp on Drogba chest that his player get away with?
Elan, yuh have dat to give we?
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By the way, what did fergie say about the six-point stamp on Drogba chest that his player get away with?
Fergies response... What stamp, I will have to go back and look the replays... Then you never hear him again with it...
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:rotfl:
(http://bit.ly/ZhYnD)
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Well dat was one scrappy, sh!tty game, but we were at our worst and still comfortably beat a top 4 team who were giving 100%. Three points is three points, so we go take dat :beermug:
For me, Chelsea's best players were Anelka, Drogba and Ivanovic. Deco was shite, d crowd was signing for Joe Cole from about 20 minutes into d first half.
Rooney was the only United player who looked dangerous, in fact he and Giggs were the only United players who actually looked worthy of playing for a top 4 team. Not sure what all the hype about Fletcher's perfomance is about, he was never gonna change the game.
Oh, and Fletcher bodychecked Ashley Cole, that was a free kick, no doubt.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/OGTKFBdLdRU
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Oh, and Fletcher bodychecked Ashley Cole, that was a free kick, no doubt.
Wait....yuh talkni' 'bout de same foul dat he cuss de ref and carry on like Rumpelstiltskin for when de ref blow? Naaaaaaaah man....can't be! :devil:
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Toothbrush Dude up in the top left corner, lol.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/rgt2010/IMG_0663.jpg)
Champions
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:rotfl:
(http://bit.ly/ZhYnD)
reminds me of "mac" from predator 1 who used to shave off his sweat when nervous. ;D
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:rotfl:
(http://bit.ly/ZhYnD)
Would be sometin if dat shit catch on, all yuh need sometimes is a gimmick
I going out first thing tomorrow and get a Oral-b for next weeks games. I need at least 2, a casual one and a more formal model. When I get big-time I could bling out with a sonicare.
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Utd were the better team today, and deserved at least a draw.
1. Rooney called offside when he was played on by Cole
2. Terry lucky to get away with not conceding a penalty after a foul on Valencia
3. Debatable free kick given to Chelsea which led to the goal
4. Possible foul on Brown by Drogba
5. Almost certain interference with play by Drogba on the goal
Poor refereeing, but so it goes sometimes. Chelsea had mostly minor decisions go against them, Utd had the major ones. Drogba might get calls like the Evans foul if he didn't embellish so much of the contact with him. Honestly I can't really blame the ref for reacting the way he did after Drogba looked like he was having a seizure on the ground. It was a foul and definitely at least a yellow, but Drogba likely stole that decision from himself honestly.
Satisfied with the performance by Utd (team and individually), if not the result - looking forward to seeing more of Obertan, as well as the return of Rio, Vidic and Berbatov. Utd can still use a little reinforcement in the middle of the park and perhaps up front (though maybe the likes of Ljajic, Diouf and Hargreaves can step up and give cover to these areas somewhat).
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Utd were the better team today, and deserved at least a draw.
1. Rooney called offside when he was played on by Cole
2. Terry lucky to get away with not conceding a penalty after a foul on Valencia
3. Debatable free kick given to Chelsea which led to the goal
4. Possible foul on Brown by Drogba
5. Almost certain interference with play by Drogba on the goal
Poor refereeing, but so it goes sometimes. Chelsea had mostly minor decisions go against them, Utd had the major ones. Drogba might get calls like the Evans foul if he didn't embellish so much of the contact with him. Honestly I can't really blame the ref for reacting the way he did after Drogba looked like he was having a seizure on the ground. It was a foul and definitely at least a yellow, but Drogba likely stole that decision from himself honestly.
Satisfied with the performance by Utd (team and individually), if not the result - looking forward to seeing more of Obertan, as well as the return of Rio, Vidic and Berbatov. Utd can still use a little reinforcement in the middle of the park and perhaps up front (though maybe the likes of Ljajic, Diouf and Hargreaves can step up and give cover to these areas somewhat).
Typical conceited ManU fan response
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Utd were the better team today, and deserved at least a draw.
1. Rooney called offside when he was played on by Cole
2. Terry lucky to get away with not conceding a penalty after a foul on Valencia
3. Debatable free kick given to Chelsea which led to the goal
4. Possible foul on Brown by Drogba
5. Almost certain interference with play by Drogba on the goal
Poor refereeing, but so it goes sometimes. Chelsea had mostly minor decisions go against them, Utd had the major ones. Drogba might get calls like the Evans foul if he didn't embellish so much of the contact with him. Honestly I can't really blame the ref for reacting the way he did after Drogba looked like he was having a seizure on the ground. It was a foul and definitely at least a yellow, but Drogba likely stole that decision from himself honestly.
Satisfied with the performance by Utd (team and individually), if not the result - looking forward to seeing more of Obertan, as well as the return of Rio, Vidic and Berbatov. Utd can still use a little reinforcement in the middle of the park and perhaps up front (though maybe the likes of Ljajic, Diouf and Hargreaves can step up and give cover to these areas somewhat).
Typical conceited ManU fan response
You being nice to call it conceited. These boys are laughable to say the least. The man say the foul by fletcher was "debatable" yes! The only thing debatable about that foul was whether or not he intended to foul the man. If the ref is right to make a call against Drogba for all his embellishment, well manu fans have a good few seasons of poetic justice due to them. How many years of "embellishment" they had under swan dive-boy? (or does it not count because he playing in Spain now?).
At least this manu fan is the first one to come close to calling the so-called foul by Drogba on brown somewhat correk. In spite of the hasty declarations in all the previous postings here, (if yuh want to see a real, clear foul, check the shot again in the first half that vds save off Anelka.....yuh go see o'shea trying his best to rip Drogba shirt off he right arm.....no complaints though, that is typical penalty-area football) nobody in the television viewing audience can truly say the see Drogba foul the man because the way the camera footage pan across the field following the ball, (the only good camera angle in inconclusive) by the time the two of them come into focus brown was already falling to the ground and it could very well have been because he run into his own damned teammate. He did try to take it back by claiming that Drogba almost certainly interfere with play oui :rotfl: ........that interference only matters if Drogba was offside when the ball was played, jed.
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You win some you loose some Fergie....yesterday you were on the wrong end of the stick..... :rotfl:
By the way that was a wicked kung-fu kick on Drogba
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Utd were the better team today, and deserved at least a draw.
1. Rooney called offside when he was played on by Cole
2. Terry lucky to get away with not conceding a penalty after a foul on Valencia
3. Debatable free kick given to Chelsea which led to the goal
4. Possible foul on Brown by Drogba
5. Almost certain interference with play by Drogba on the goal
Poor refereeing, but so it goes sometimes. Chelsea had mostly minor decisions go against them, Utd had the major ones. Drogba might get calls like the Evans foul if he didn't embellish so much of the contact with him. Honestly I can't really blame the ref for reacting the way he did after Drogba looked like he was having a seizure on the ground. It was a foul and definitely at least a yellow, but Drogba likely stole that decision from himself honestly.
Satisfied with the performance by Utd (team and individually), if not the result - looking forward to seeing more of Obertan, as well as the return of Rio, Vidic and Berbatov. Utd can still use a little reinforcement in the middle of the park and perhaps up front (though maybe the likes of Ljajic, Diouf and Hargreaves can step up and give cover to these areas somewhat).
Typical conceited ManU fan response
You being nice to call it conceited. These boys are laughable to say the least. The man say the foul by fletcher was "debatable" yes! The only thing debatable about that foul was whether or not he intended to foul the man. If the ref is right to make a call against Drogba for all his embellishment, well manu fans have a good few seasons of poetic justice due to them. How many years of "embellishment" they had under swan dive-boy? (or does it not count because he playing in Spain now?).
At least this manu fan is the first one to come close to calling the so-called foul by Drogba on brown somewhat correk. In spite of the hasty declarations in all the previous postings here, (if yuh want to see a real, clear foul, check the shot again in the first half that vds save off Anelka.....yuh go see o'shea trying his best to rip Drogba shirt off he right arm.....no complaints though, that is typical penalty-area football) nobody in the television viewing audience can truly say the see Drogba foul the man because the way the camera footage pan across the field following the ball, (the only good camera angle in inconclusive) by the time the two of them come into focus brown was already falling to the ground and it could very well have been because he run into his own damned teammate. He did try to take it back by claiming that Drogba almost certainly interfere with play oui :rotfl: ........that interference only matters if Drogba was offside when the ball was played, jed.
Typical blinded Utd hater retort :)
Watch or read any analysis of the game and u will see that most agree on these points.
I'm takin the loss, Utd should have defended the set piece better and hey sometimes u don't get the calls or the luck but that doesn't take away from the fact that Utd were the better team and that the game may have turned out differently if the ref had made what I feel are the correct calls. Just observations, not sore losing.
I never expected that Ronaldo should have gotten many of the calls he got, so don't put me in league with that fool - for you to stand by Drogba and want him to be rewarded for his histrionics is laughable really. And if you don't think he was in offside position when Terry headed the ball towards goal and that he wasn't interfering with play kicking out at the ball in the 6 yard box right in front of the keeper - then I really eh know what to say na brudda haha.
Guess there's jus no bein diplomatic on this board though haha - Anti-Utd or bust.
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As a ManU fan, oh gorsh they lose. Take licks as men and move to the next game. The season ain't half-way yet and manU(boo) fans crying. It have a 2nd round.
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MANCHESTER UNITED NEWS
Ferguson to escape action for ref comments
By Soccernet staff
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Fergusonwill not face any action from the Football Association for comments he made about referee Martin Atkinson following his side's 1-0 defeat to Chelsea.
Ferguson condemned the decision to award the free-kick that led to the goal as "absolutely ridiculous'' and said he is losing his faith in refereeing.
It is understood however the FA are not planning to take any action against the United manager as he did not question the referee's integrity or claim there was any bias.
Atkinson awarded a free-kick for Darren Fletcher's challenge on Ashley Cole and Wes Brown appeared to be impeded as Frank Lampard's delivery was turned into the net by John Terry.
Ferguson said afterwards: "Clearly, Darren Fletcher's won the ball - Ashley Cole's never touched and has jumped up in the air - and then [Didier] Drogba's pulled Brown to the ground for the goal.
"The referee's position to make the decision was absolutely ridiculous - he can't see anything. He's got a Chelsea player [Joe Cole] standing right in front of him - and he doesn't even move.
"It was a bad decision, but there's nothing we can do about it. You lose faith in refereeing sometimes, that's the way the players are talking in there - it was a bad one.''
Atkinson has suffered criticism from Ferguson before; the United boss branded him a "disgrace" after he awarded Portsmouth a penalty that proved to be their winner in United's FA Cup quarter-final defeat at Old Trafford in March 2008.
Sir Alex also declared after that game that Atkinson's performance "should not be accepted in our game" and then rounded on referees' chief Keith Hackett for "not doing his job properly".
Ferguson was charged with improper conduct but was cleared after the FA decided they could not appeal against the independent Regulatory Commission, which found that the charges levelled against him could not be proven.
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MANCHESTER UNITED NEWS
Ferguson to escape action for ref comments
By Soccernet staff
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Fergusonwill not face any action from the Football Association for comments he made about referee Martin Atkinson following his side's 1-0 defeat to Chelsea.
Ferguson condemned the decision to award the free-kick that led to the goal as "absolutely ridiculous'' and said he is losing his faith in refereeing.
It is understood however the FA are not planning to take any action against the United manager as he did not question the referee's integrity or claim there was any bias.
Atkinson awarded a free-kick for Darren Fletcher's challenge on Ashley Cole and Wes Brown appeared to be impeded as Frank Lampard's delivery was turned into the net by John Terry.
Ferguson said afterwards: "Clearly, Darren Fletcher's won the ball - Ashley Cole's never touched and has jumped up in the air - and then [Didier] Drogba's pulled Brown to the ground for the goal.
"The referee's position to make the decision was absolutely ridiculous - he can't see anything. He's got a Chelsea player [Joe Cole] standing right in front of him - and he doesn't even move.
"It was a bad decision, but there's nothing we can do about it. You lose faith in refereeing sometimes, that's the way the players are talking in there - it was a bad one.''
Atkinson has suffered criticism from Ferguson before; the United boss branded him a "disgrace" after he awarded Portsmouth a penalty that proved to be their winner in United's FA Cup quarter-final defeat at Old Trafford in March 2008.
Sir Alex also declared after that game that Atkinson's performance "should not be accepted in our game" and then rounded on referees' chief Keith Hackett for "not doing his job properly".
Ferguson was charged with improper conduct but was cleared after the FA decided they could not appeal against the independent Regulatory Commission, which found that the charges levelled against him could not be proven.
...good thing " he did not question the referee's integrity or claim there was any bias " . one thing you can be sure about any time Wenger or Fergusson loses ...is that a poor referee was appointed to do the game .
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2721206/Dont-forget-your-toothbrush.html
Don't Forget Your Toothbrush
CHEW cannot be serious! A football fan really dented his image — when he was filmed brushing his teeth at a top Premier League game.
The Chelsea supporter, wearing sunglasses as he stood behind the dugouts, was seen by millions of TV viewers worldwide shining his gnashers in the crowd.
The hilarious scene was captured on camera in the second half of the crunch game against Manchester United at Stamford Bridge on Sunday.
He was clearly visible with a foaming mouth for several seconds behind Salomon Kalou and Michael Owen as they waited on the touchline to come on as substitutes.
The unnamed fan told BBC Radio 5 Live presenter DJ Spoony he had not had time to do it before he set off for the match — and he was wearing dark glasses because he did not want to be spotted by an ex-girlfriend who was at the game.
The supporter at least had something to smile about yesterday, as Chelsea turned in a sparkling performance to win 1-0.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2721206/Dont-forget-your-toothbrush.html#ixzz0WOZrv1X6
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Fellas real passionate sah so wha goin an happen when Arsenal win the league? lol ...i feel allyuh boy go jump off a building or something lol. Chelsea is the favorites right now but until the man u players all decide to step up their game to compensate for the loss of christiano they good for third place ..... because Wenger Team time is now!
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Fellas real passionate sah so wha goin an happen when Arsenal win the league? lol ...i feel allyuh boy go jump off a building or something lol. Chelsea is the favorites right now but until the man u players all decide to step up their game to compensate for the loss of christiano they good for third place ..... because Wenger Team time is now!
Personally, I am not no die-hard, I jus like watchin good football...so when I saw Man Utd start d game wid a 5 man midfield of Valencia, Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, and a 36 year old Giggs....I felt rel bad for dem....dat lineup wouldnt look out of place sweatin for Aston Villa. Hopefully they will bounce back soon...joga bonito it is not :thumbsdown:
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Fairly even match- hard fought, not pretty...Chelsea was more clinical and thus got the goal. Man U looked good for a team missing some of its very key players.
Toothbrush man was real jones lol.
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Utd were the better team today, and deserved at least a draw.
1. Rooney called offside when he was played on by Cole
2. Terry lucky to get away with not conceding a penalty after a foul on Valencia
3. Debatable free kick given to Chelsea which led to the goal
4. Possible foul on Brown by Drogba
5. Almost certain interference with play by Drogba on the goal
Poor refereeing, but so it goes sometimes. Chelsea had mostly minor decisions go against them, Utd had the major ones. Drogba might get calls like the Evans foul if he didn't embellish so much of the contact with him. Honestly I can't really blame the ref for reacting the way he did after Drogba looked like he was having a seizure on the ground. It was a foul and definitely at least a yellow, but Drogba likely stole that decision from himself honestly.
Satisfied with the performance by Utd (team and individually), if not the result - looking forward to seeing more of Obertan, as well as the return of Rio, Vidic and Berbatov. Utd can still use a little reinforcement in the middle of the park and perhaps up front (though maybe the likes of Ljajic, Diouf and Hargreaves can step up and give cover to these areas somewhat).
Typical conceited ManU fan response
You being nice to call it conceited. These boys are laughable to say the least. The man say the foul by fletcher was "debatable" yes! The only thing debatable about that foul was whether or not he intended to foul the man. If the ref is right to make a call against Drogba for all his embellishment, well manu fans have a good few seasons of poetic justice due to them. How many years of "embellishment" they had under swan dive-boy? (or does it not count because he playing in Spain now?).
At least this manu fan is the first one to come close to calling the so-called foul by Drogba on brown somewhat correk. In spite of the hasty declarations in all the previous postings here, (if yuh want to see a real, clear foul, check the shot again in the first half that vds save off Anelka.....yuh go see o'shea trying his best to rip Drogba shirt off he right arm.....no complaints though, that is typical penalty-area football) nobody in the television viewing audience can truly say the see Drogba foul the man because the way the camera footage pan across the field following the ball, (the only good camera angle in inconclusive) by the time the two of them come into focus brown was already falling to the ground and it could very well have been because he run into his own damned teammate. He did try to take it back by claiming that Drogba almost certainly interfere with play oui :rotfl: ........that interference only matters if Drogba was offside when the ball was played, jed.
Typical blinded Utd hater retort :)
Watch or read any analysis of the game and u will see that most agree on these points.
I'm takin the loss, Utd should have defended the set piece better and hey sometimes u don't get the calls or the luck but that doesn't take away from the fact that Utd were the better team and that the game may have turned out differently if the ref had made what I feel are the correct calls. Yeah, evans would have been off and who knows how manu would have suffered being a man down to Chelsea at the Bridge.
Just observations, not sore losing.
I never expected that Ronaldo should have gotten many of the calls he got, so don't put me in league with that fool
I am not putting anybody in any league, hoss, please, read my lips: What I am telling the manu fans that are being so bitchy about "the ref" is that, whether y'all liked cronaldo or not, y'all definitely accepted the wins when his histrionics gave y'all positive results, so accept a loss or two when y'all feel a call or two don't go y'all's way. How hard is that to comprehend?! ???
- for you to stand by Drogba and want him to be rewarded for his histrionics is laughable really.
Where have you ever or do you now see me "stand by Drogba...." and his drama, jed?! Rewarded?! Where do you see that I am even suggesting that he be rewarded for his antics?
Go back and check your sources.
But even for all his histrionics, I really wouldn'ta mind if it was a normal foul that evans committed and get away with. That is football. However, there is absolutely no room in football (or sport, for that matter) for what he actually did do. He clearly intended to stamp the man in his chest with his studs and that is just classless.....but classlessness is typical of your club so I'm not surprised that you would be so typical as to talk about Drogba's histrionics rather than admit that evans was lucky to get away with what he did....
And if you don't think he was in offside position when Terry headed the ball towards goal and that he wasn't interfering with play kicking out at the ball in the 6 yard box right in front of the keeper - then I really eh know what to say na brudda haha.
I was only focused on Drogba's positioning when the free-kick was taken and the linesman probably didn't even see that Terry had made contact with the ball (same way the linesman didn't see the sole of evans' boot make contact with Drogba's chest) but that is just one of those plays that you win sometimes and you lose sometimes. I'm sure before the season is over manu will get some benefit of bad refereeing and yesterday will be forgotten.
Guess there's jus no bein diplomatic on this board though haha manu fans wouldn't know diplomacy if they worked in the U.N. - Anti-Utd or bust.
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why is nothing being done about this?
http://www.youtube.com/v/pXpPZ1RsP3Y
just imagine if ivanovic had put one ah dat on rooney. yuh woulda never hear the end of it, guaranteed..
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And Droigba get a yellow on top ah that too? Where the FA?
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I now comin to ask about Jonny Evans.
How come no post-match action was taken?
What is the EPL policy incidents that were missed by the ref?
If it was Rooney who get stamp in the ribs yuh woulda hear ole noise.
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why is nothing being done about this?
http://www.youtube.com/v/pXpPZ1RsP3Y
just imagine if ivanovic had put one ah dat on rooney. yuh woulda never hear the end of it, guaranteed..
Get stuck in lads !
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If drogba didnt beat up like a fish dey........it woulda be different.
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I now comin to ask about Jonny Evans.
How come no post-match action was taken?
What is the EPL policy incidents that were missed by the ref?
If it was Rooney who get stamp in the ribs yuh woulda hear ole noise.
What action do you think should be taken... and based on what?
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Bourbon... agreed, the excessive wine and kick up probably work against him (especially considering his reputation).
I also understand why the ref would have shown him the yellow... not that I agree with it.
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If drogba didnt beat up like a fish dey........it woulda be different.
for real, he earn his yellow card 4 dat.
but truth is, in real time it actually looked like drogba had rushed in on evans...if u notice d crowd eh really make too much noise considering how ridiculous d challenge was. plus d crowd took their cue from drogba and once dey saw him beatin up dey kinda quiet down wid embarrasment.
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there is provision for retroactive punishment if the ref sees the replay and agrees that he would have sent the player off had he seen it. Adebayor suffered that fate for his challenge on Van Persie earlier this season.
The only exception for this is if the ref acted by giving a yellow where it should have been red, in which case then the player cannot be subsequently punished after the game. Evans was not booked.
imo that was a stonewall red card offence.
admittedly on first view from the tv angle i thought drogba went up with him and they clattered, but when you look at that replay you can see he has not even left the ground before evans comes in with a high foot studs up challenge.. There is no reason why his foot needs to be that high going up for a ball, and it looks fully intentional to me.
madness..
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Got a chuckle from this :)
http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/england/english-premiership/the-six-reasons-why-didier-drogba-was-booked-after-johnny-evans-kicked-him-in-the-chest.html
Six Possible Reasons Why Didier Drogba Was Booked After Jonny Evans Kicked Him in the Chest
By: Daryl | November 9th, 2009
First thing’s first, I’m not sure Jonny Evans did this intentionally. So I don’t want this post to be all about him. But there’s no doubt that his studs connected with Didier Drogba’s chest during Man Utd’s 1-0 defeat to Chelsea yesterday, and there’s no doubt that said connection caused a great deal of pain. Leg-jiggling pain.
It’s possible (but by no means certain) that said leg-jiggling was exaggerated. As a result, referee Martin Atkinson booked Didier Drogba, most likely for “simulation”. But is that fair?
Diving when there’s no contact is clearly – and provably – cheating, because it’s a reaction to something that didn’t happen. But in this case there clearly was contact (and then some) so surely it’s impossible to judge the extent to which Drogba was simulating. If at all.
So if Drogba’s yellow card wasn’t for simulation, then it must have been for something else. Below are six possible alternative explanations for Martin Atkinson showing Drogba the yellow card…
1. Didier Drogba’s sternum is made of duranium metal alloy prototype 4 class b
So Jonny Evans should consider himself fortunate that his left leg didn’t immediately shatter into a million pieces. It is actually a criminal offence for Didier Drogba’s super-sternum to make contact with any part of another human, so a yellow card is actually a very lenient punishment for his vicious attack on Jonny Evans’ left leg.
2. Didier Drogba was actually booked for lewd public behaviour
Watch the leg-jiggling part of the video again. He’s not in pain, he’s clearly enjoying himself. A little too much.
3. Didier Drogba is a highly skilled magician
It may look like Evans kicked him in the chest, but that was actually just some David Blaine shit that Drogba pulled. It was literally simulated. A massive televisual event of an illusion that fooled everyone in the world. Except Martin Atkinson.
4. Jonny Evans is a Jedi
Turns out Star Wars is not a fictional film. It is a documentary, and Jedi mind tricks are real. Watch Evans after the foul. He’s clearly telling Atkinson that “I’m not the player you’re looking for.”
5. It was temporarily opposite day
It was Drogba’s misfortune that for the few second in which this collision took place, the laws of football were briefly reversed. He’s lucky he didn’t win the ball from Evans and run through to score, because that would have been an own goal and given Man Utd a 1-0 lead.
6. A new FA “Look After Yourself” Campaign?
Referees are sick and tired of being responsible for players’ safety. These are grown men, not babies. So from now on it’s each player’s own responsibility to look after themselves and not get fouled. Failure to do this results in a booking. Harsh, but it’s the only way they’ll learn.
Why only six? Because that’s all I could come up with. But if you have any more, please share them in the comments.
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there is provision for retroactive punishment if the ref sees the replay and agrees that he would have sent the player off had he seen it. Adebayor suffered that fate for his challenge on Van Persie earlier this season.
The only exception for this is if the ref acted by giving a yellow where it should have been red, in which case then the player cannot be subsequently punished after the game. Evans was not booked.
imo that was a stonewall red card offence.
admittedly on first view from the tv angle i thought drogba went up with him and they clattered, but when you look at that replay you can see he has not even left the ground before evans comes in with a high foot studs up challenge.. There is no reason why his foot needs to be that high going up for a ball, and it looks fully intentional to me.
madness..
Can you say with certainty that it was intentional?
If the answer is "no" then there goes any argument for retroactive punishment. From previous situations there appears to be two overriding concerns which bring about retroactive punishment:
a) Intent + Foul, irrespective as to whether there is actual injury (see Adebayor on Van Persie).
b) Foul + Actual Injury, irrespective of intent (see Martin Taylor on Eduardo).
Here you can't conclusively say the foul was intentional (although I personally suspect it wasn't fully accidental); and there certainly wasn't any injury.
As for Drogba's yellow... it wasn't a 50-50 ball, Drogba arrived late to the challenge and the ref probably thought he could have pulled out of it (which he actually tried to do). Add to the fact his history of embellishment and play acting= yellow card.
The irony is that this is probably the first time Drogba's been punished when he had a legitimate claim, to counter all the other times when others were punished when he didn't. Moral of the story take the win and doh cry wolf no more.
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Yes you can conclusively say it was intentional.
Evans' foot was not merely raised, he kicked out at Drogba.
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Can you say with certainty that it was intentional?
If the answer is "no" then there goes any argument for retroactive punishment.
Umm.. No.
A foul doesn't have to be 'certainly intentional' for retroactive punishment to apply. It could very well be that the foul was clumsy, late or negligent such that it could cause damage to another player (See Essien's tackle on Didi Hamann in his first season in the EPL). Determining intentionality is a subjective process, both for me and for the panel that reviews the incident and in this case from the video above, I do in fact think that Evans meant to harm Drogba with that challenge.
From previous situations there appears to be two overriding concerns which bring about retroactive punishment:
a) Intent + Foul, irrespective as to whether there is actual injury (see Adebayor on Van Persie).
b) Foul + Actual Injury, irrespective of intent (see Martin Taylor on Eduardo).
Here you can't conclusively say the foul was intentional (although I personally suspect it wasn't fully accidental); and there certainly wasn't any injury.
Actual injury should never be a determining factor in retroactive punishment because there can be incidental contact that causes an injury, or a player can get seriously injured in a yellow card or non-punishable challenge. There was a tackle shown right here in the 'Worst ever tackles' thread in the French league that break off a man foot worse than Eduardo but the man was going for the ball and it was unfortunate.
Admittedly though, it weighs into the decision making as in the Martin Taylor challenge you referenced but actual injury is not a stated criteria.
As for Drogba's yellow... it wasn't a 50-50 ball, Drogba arrived late to the challenge and the ref probably thought he could have pulled out of it (which he actually tried to do). Add to the fact his history of embellishment and play acting= yellow card.
The irony is that this is probably the first time Drogba's been punished when he had a legitimate claim, to counter all the other times when others were punished when he didn't. Moral of the story take the win and doh cry wolf no more.
No one is arguing the yellow for Drogba, just the lack of punishment for Evans.
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Umm.. No.
A foul doesn't have to be 'certainly intentional' for retroactive punishment to apply. It could very well be that the foul was clumsy, late or negligent such that it could cause damage to another player (See Essien's tackle on Didi Hamann in his first season in the EPL). Determining intentionality is a subjective process, both for me and for the panel that reviews the incident and in this case from the video above, I do in fact think that Evans meant to harm Drogba with that challenge.
If you read on you'll see I clearly state that the foul doesn't HAVE to be intentional. If it's unintentional however there has to be injury in order for there to be retroactive punishment. The incident you cite with Essien and Hamann actually occurred during a UEFA game and UEFA suspended Essien, not the English FA. I am speaking specifically of the English FA whose standards are different from UEFA (see UEFA's sanction of Eduardo vs. the FA's non-sanction of N'gog for diving). If you can find a case where the FA suspended a player who had NO intention to foul/injure and the foul did NOT result in injury yet the fouling player was suspended retroactively (meaning the ref saw if and didn't sanction it) then by all means...
Actual injury should never be a determining factor in retroactive punishment because there can be incidental contact that causes an injury, or a player can get seriously injured in a yellow card or non-punishable challenge. There was a tackle shown right here in the 'Worst ever tackles' thread in the French league that break off a man foot worse than Eduardo but the man was going for the ball and it was unfortunate.
Admittedly though, it weighs into the decision making as in the Martin Taylor challenge you referenced but actual injury is not a stated criteria.
I'm not sure what you're arguing here... in ever instance you cite there was injury. Maybe the use of "actual" (as opposed to "possible" or "near" injury) is what throwing you off. If there is no intent an no injury then there is not retroactive sanction... simple.
No one is arguing the yellow for Drogba, just the lack of punishment for Evans.
You sure about that?
And Droigba get a yellow on top ah that too? Where the FA?
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Umm.. No.
A foul doesn't have to be 'certainly intentional' for retroactive punishment to apply. It could very well be that the foul was clumsy, late or negligent such that it could cause damage to another player (See Essien's tackle on Didi Hamann in his first season in the EPL). Determining intentionality is a subjective process, both for me and for the panel that reviews the incident and in this case from the video above, I do in fact think that Evans meant to harm Drogba with that challenge.
If you read on you'll see I clearly state that the foul doesn't HAVE to be intentional. If it's unintentional however there has to be injury in order for there to be retroactive punishment. The incident you cite with Essien and Hamann actually occurred during a UEFA game and UEFA suspended Essien, not the English FA. I am speaking specifically of the English FA whose standards are different from UEFA (see UEFA's sanction of Eduardo vs. the FA's non-sanction of N'gog for diving). If you can find a case where the FA suspended a player who had NO intention to foul/injure and the foul did NOT result in injury yet the fouling player was suspended retroactively (meaning the ref saw if and didn't sanction it) then by all means...
I really don't think injury is a pre-requisite for retroactive punishment, i just think you would be hard pressed to find a red card challenge that called enough attention to merit a review where the player just got up immediately and walked away from it. And are we talking in-game injury that prevents the player from continuing or longer term damage?
Retroactive punishments deal with red card offences regardless, for example you can be punished for an intentional handball that went unnoticed in a game, but then the ref comes back after the fact and says that he would have given red if he had seen it.
Actual injury should never be a determining factor in retroactive punishment because there can be incidental contact that causes an injury, or a player can get seriously injured in a yellow card or non-punishable challenge. There was a tackle shown right here in the 'Worst ever tackles' thread in the French league that break off a man foot worse than Eduardo but the man was going for the ball and it was unfortunate.
Admittedly though, it weighs into the decision making as in the Martin Taylor challenge you referenced but actual injury is not a stated criteria.
I'm not sure what you're arguing here... in ever instance you cite there was injury. Maybe the use of "actual" (as opposed to "possible" or "near" injury) is what throwing you off. If there is no intent an no injury then there is not retroactive sanction... simple.
You said:
b) Foul + Actual Injury, irrespective of intent (see Martin Taylor on Eduardo).
is an overriding factor..
I'm basically saying the same thing as above. Whether or not the player is injured shouldn't be an overriding factor, because it should be about the challenge. If there is an unintentional yet mistimed challenge that caused a serious injury to a player that was not deemed red-cardable, then there should be no retroactive sanction.
By the way, Drogba was injured out of the game and is also out of Ivory Coast's next game because of Evans challenge.
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Intended or not I would send off a player for that challenge. Drogba got a boot to his chest I think he's entitled to react and how do we know he wasn't in awful pain.
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they should rescind that card in any case!
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Intended or not I would send off a player for that challenge. Drogba got a boot to his chest I think he's entitled to react and how do we know he wasn't in awful pain.
What that video doesnt quite show in the close up shot is that Evans actually went to head the ball and indeed headed the ball clear, and ended up kicking Drogba moments later.
It would have been very hard for him to concentrate on heading the ball and simultaneously try to maim Drogba. I think he kicked out for fear that Drogba was gonna clatter him right after heading the ball. If he had been sent off at the time there would have been little to complain about, but not sure whether it warrants a retrospective red.
We got de 3 points, we go take dat ;D
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I realize is lil boys on here trying to pose as big men. How in the hell you could see why the ref gave Drogba a yellow, for excessive leg shaking. Apparently alyuh accustom with men riding alyuh chest for alyuh to expect Drogba to take that drop kick and not roll around.
That kick was intentional, after Evans head the ball he see Drogba and extended his leg, foot what ever anatomical term you want to use.
That right there is a straight red, 3 games ban and a fine. So much for so called objectivity
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I really don't think injury is a pre-requisite for retroactive punishment, i just think you would be hard pressed to find a red card challenge that called enough attention to merit a review where the player just got up immediately and walked away from it. And are we talking in-game injury that prevents the player from continuing or longer term damage?
Retroactive punishments deal with red card offences regardless, for example you can be punished for an intentional handball that went unnoticed in a game, but then the ref comes back after the fact and says that he would have given red if he had seen it.
Sure... but we're not talking about handballs, we're talking about fouls committed against other players. You'll be hard-pressed to find an instance in which there was an unintentionally rash tackle which DID NOT result in injury, in which the player was not disciplined on the field (the ref didn't miss it, he just didn't adjudge it a red card offense at the time- so quite different from your hand-ball example)
You said:
b) Foul + Actual Injury, irrespective of intent (see Martin Taylor on Eduardo).
is an overriding factor..
I'm basically saying the same thing as above. Whether or not the player is injured shouldn't be an overriding factor, because it should be about the challenge. If there is an unintentional yet mistimed challenge that caused a serious injury to a player that was not deemed red-cardable, then there should be no retroactive sanction.
By the way, Drogba was injured out of the game and is also out of Ivory Coast's next game because of Evans challenge.
I never said anything of the sort... never said it was an "overriding" factor. What I did say was that there were two ways in which the FA (seems) to adjudicate retroactive punishment (involving tackles):
a) Intent
b) Injury
Nothing about overriding, just the two different... emphasis on different scenarios I've been able to identify.
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Intended or not I would send off a player for that challenge. Drogba got a boot to his chest I think he's entitled to react and how do we know he wasn't in awful pain.
You miss de conversation... nobody really arguing what we would do, more what the FA is likely to do.
Also, I don't think anybody questioning Drogba's right to kick up and roll arung... just what might have been going thru the ref's mind at the time in assessing the yellow.
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I don't think that Drogba got the card for play-acting, but rather for his challenge on Evans. If you look at the replay; as soon as the foul was committed, the Ref pointed in favor of Man United. Drogba saw that Evans had left the ground and kept moving forward into Evans as he was airborne. Evans initially put his foot up to protect himself (as goal-keepers typically do with their knees), but added a little umph to it with a mild kick-out. In my opinion, they should have both gotten a yellow card. Drogba, for the attempted "under-cut" and Evans for lashing out.
But more importantly, we got the 3 points, so no hard feelings ;)
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I don't think that Drogba got the card for play-acting, but rather for his challenge on Evans. If you look at the replay; as soon as the foul was committed, the Ref pointed in favor of Man United. Drogba saw that Evans had left the ground and kept moving forward into Evans as he was airborne. Evans initially put his foot up to protect himself (as goal-keepers typically do with their knees), but added a little umph to it with a mild kick-out. In my opinion, they should have both gotten a yellow card. Drogba, for the attempted "under-cut" and Evans for lashing out.
But more importantly, we got the 3 points, so no hard feelings ;)
You musse ah next li'l boy posing as ah big man :D
As for Drogba's yellow... it wasn't a 50-50 ball, Drogba arrived late to the challenge and the ref probably thought he could have pulled out of it (which he actually tried to do). Add to the fact his history of embellishment and play acting= yellow card.
...I tend tuh agree with yuh on that. Also agree that Evans to an extent seemed to be concerned with protecting himself foremost... but that he did kick out ah li'l bit.
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Intended or not I would send off a player for that challenge. Drogba got a boot to his chest I think he's entitled to react and how do we know he wasn't in awful pain.
You miss de conversation... nobody really arguing what we would do, more what the FA is likely to do.
Also, I don't think anybody questioning Drogba's right to kick up and roll arung... just what might have been going thru the ref's mind at the time in assessing the yellow.
If I have to operate within the loosely defined framework of the argument then I would say rescind the yellow card to Drogba and ban Evans for 1 game for dangerous play since determining intent is so difficult.
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If I have to operate within the loosely defined framework of the argument then I would say rescind the yellow card to Drogba and ban Evans for 1 game for dangerous play since determining intent is so difficult.
Nah yuh do have to... my bad fuh how dat come across, was in de middle ah something else when ah post dat. I think rescinding the yellow is fair.... banning Evans isn't, especially as you self concede determining intent is so difficult. If anything the only intent we could fairly attribute to him is an intent to protect himself from being undercut as Sobriquet said.
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If I have to operate within the loosely defined framework of the argument then I would say rescind the yellow card to Drogba and ban Evans for 1 game for dangerous play since determining intent is so difficult.
Nah yuh do have to... my bad fuh how dat come across, was in de middle ah something else when ah post dat. I think rescinding the yellow is fair.... banning Evans isn't, especially as you self concede determining intent is so difficult. If anything the only intent we could fairly attribute to him is an intent to protect himself from being undercut as Sobriquet said.
I guess that's a fair compromise since intent seems to be judged subjectively.
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Ref are independent to the game, so a ref who is reffing a game on assumptions or judging players on history has no place in the game. each game is a new game and to say he knows Drogba history is makes all argument for the yellow void.
Not even a GK is allowed to extend his foot. So the argument that Evans was trying to protect himself does not apply, preemptive strike?
It like going into a slide takle straight on, to protect yourself properly you have to expose your studs, which is illegal.
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Ref are independent to the game, so a ref who is reffing a game on assumptions or judging players on history has no place in the game. each game is a new game and to say he knows Drogba history is makes all argument for the yellow void.
Not even a GK is allowed to extend his foot. So the argument that Evans was trying to protect himself does not apply, preemptive strike?
It like going into a slide takle straight on, to protect yourself properly you have to expose your studs, which is illegal.
I only NOW see that somebody finally makin' sense.