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Title: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Flex on September 08, 2010, 04:40:27 AM
Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
By: Inshan Mohammed.


Trinidad and Tobago national senior football team suffered another humiliating defeat this time to Panama as the Soca Warriors went down 3-0 to the Central Americans at the Rommel Fernandez Stadium in Panama on Tuesday.

Fresh from its 3-1 home defeat to the Reggae Boyz last month, T&T again started off the lackluster side and produced a terrible football display, especially in the first half.

Interim Panama coach Jorge Dely made no mistakes leaving many of his regular players on the bench, as he looked at new faces for next year's Central American Championship.

Jan-Michael Williams kept hope alive in the 9th minute as he saved a penalty which he caused when he brought down Edwin Aguilar in the box, after the striker beat T&T’s off-side trap.

However, Panama took the lead as early as the 14th  minute when striker Edwin Aguilar turned in the box beating Daneil Cyrus and Aklie Edwards while leaving goalkeeper Jan-Michael Williams for dead as he placed his shot in the far corner of the net, 1-0 ...P-a-n-a-m-a.

There wasn't much action to report from T&T during the first half period, apart from a 16th minute Kern Cupid freekick which sailed over the bar; and some darting runs by one of T&T's hardworking midfielder Kevon Carter, who teamed up well with his Defence Force teammate Devon Jorsling.

Oh yeah... I almost forgot, Aklie Edward.  Of all the T&T players Aklie came the closest to a goal, an own goal. When late in the first half the leftback missed his own net by inches as he tried to clear a through pass from Aguilar to Torres on the flank. Credit to the leftback though, he did come to the rescue.

All was not done and dusted for Latapy's men though, as they started off the second half with a little more purposed and should have equalized in the 57th minute when Jones sent in a perfect cross from the left only for Marcano to head the ball high over bar.

In the end the Warriors were fruitless and had to settle for a 3-0 defeat from a side that has never beaten the Warriors by such a large margin. This was also the first time T&T have not scored a single goal in a game against Panama since 2001.

Evergreen striker Luis Tejada entered the match in the 67th minute and it took only eight minutes for him to find the back of the net when he scored from a defensive error in the 75th. Defender Roman Torres toyed with the T&T defense as they failed to clear the ball in the box before Tejada latched on to it and slapped his shot pass Phillip.

Gabriel Gomez closed the door on T&T from the penalty spot in the 87th as former U-20 defender Daneil Cyrus was wrongly accused for pushing one of the Panamanian attackers in the box. Cyrus was subsequently yellow carded while Gomez made no mistake this time with a cheap chip past Phillip.

In the 91st minute T&T would get one last chance at goal when Trent Noel almost knocked-out the Panamanian goalkeeper, José Calderón with a powerful free-kick, but that was all she wrote for the Warriors as they now move onto their next game against lowly 180th FIFA ranked - Belize. In spite of this below par performance, special mention should be made of Ataullah Guerra and debutant Joevin Jones, who both came in and made some positive contributions.

One can only now hope that after a string of dismal performances by the local contingent, Latapy will finally call in some US-based players to beef up his team (particularly the defense) in time for the Digicel Cup. Players such as Osei Telsford, Yohance Marshall, Julius James, Chris Birchall, Scott Sealy, locally based center-back Robert Primus and even UK based Andre Boucaud (who recently revealed his eagerness to return to the fold) are all viable options.

So far T&T is not playing with a game plan. There is no fluid passing whatsoever from this team and they are very disorganized in defense. Latapy, who stated that he intended on sticking with the same players after the Jamaica defeat last month and is of the notion that T&T can win the Digicel Cup with an all local squad; should reconsider his assessment or maybe T&T’s U-17 coach Pellerud could help sort things out.

As coach Latapy’s record stands at; 3 wins (St Kitts, El Salvador and Antigua), one draw against Mexico and eight losses. For the longest, the diminutive T&T coach has wanted the opportunity to see what level T&T is at. Those of us who cannot stomach another trashing can only hope he has gotten his answers by now. Onto Belize for a confidence booster or at least, we hope so. As fans were are not just focused on getting results, but we would also like to see some good organized and constructive football.

Teams

T&T: - 21.Jan-Michael Williams (1.Marvin Phillip 46th); 5.Kern Cupid, 19.Daneil Cyrus, 6.Keston Williams, 3.Aklie Edwards (14.Joevin Jones 46th); 8.Trent Noel, 10.Hayden Tinto, 18.Densil Theobald (Kareem Young 77th), 11.Kevon Carter (2.Ataullah Guerra 56th); 13.Jason Marcano (4.Kerry Baptiste 70th), 9.Devon Jorsling.

Coach: - Russell Latapy.

Panamá: - 18.José Calderón; 5.Román Torres (Nelson Barahona 88th), 13.Adolfo Machado, 4.Martín Gómez (Luis Henríquez 52nd), 2.Harold Cumings; 21.Amílcar Henríquez, 19.Ricardo Buitrago (Alberto Quintero 81st), 20.Eduardo Jiménez (Jairo Yao 67th), 14.Eybar Bonaga (6.Gabriel Gómez 60th); 23.Luis Rentería (18.Luis Tejada 67th), 9.Edwin Aguilar.

Coach: - Jorge Dely.

ATT: - 5,211.

Video: - Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asX-zHw9kRw&feature=player_embedded).
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Tallman on September 08, 2010, 04:42:27 AM
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Trinidad and Tobago's Hyden Tinto, front, controls the ball under pressure from Panama's Eibyr Bonaga during a friendly soccer match in Panama City, Tuesday Sept. 7, 2010.

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Panama's Martin Gomez (L) chases Trinidad and Tobago's Kevon Carter during their soccer friendly in Panama City September 7, 2010.

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Panama's Amilcar Henriquez (21) and Eibyr Bonaga (R) look on as Trinidad and Tobago's Devon Jorsling falls during their soccer friendly in Panama City September 7, 2010.

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Panama's Harold Cummings (C) runs with the ball as Trinidad and Tobago's Jason Marcano (R) chases him during their friendly soccer game in Panama City September 7, 2010.

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Panama's Harold Cummings (L) fights for the ball with Trinidad and Tobago's Jason Marcano during their friendly soccer match in Panama City September 7, 2010.

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Trinidad and Tobago's Kern Cupid, left, fights for the ball with Panama's Luis Tejada at a friendly soccer match in Panama City, Tuesday Sept. 7, 2010. Panama won 3-0.

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Trinidad and Tobago's Kevon Carter, right, fights for the ball with Panama's Martin Gomez, left, during a friendly soccer match in Panama City, Tuesday, Sept. 7, 2010.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Teflon Don on September 08, 2010, 04:52:44 AM
shit sides get shit results.plain and simple
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: frico on September 08, 2010, 05:10:49 AM
No improvement then?
Lets hope RL can now switch to plan B.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Big Magician on September 08, 2010, 05:32:11 AM
OK ..OK

STOP  playing de fittball
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 08, 2010, 05:42:03 AM
No improvement then?
Lets hope RL can now switch to plan B.


Which is??....
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: royal on September 08, 2010, 05:55:46 AM
well I guess we all know Latas ain't lasting to long again.Jack just buying time before he raid Anil ministry.
On another note.Ah wonder if it is Latas picking dem shit teams?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: spideybuff on September 08, 2010, 06:06:01 AM
Ok, Ok...I join the bandwaggon....

3-0 to Panama? I thought we supposed to be improving Latas? If we going to be conceding regularly, at least have we scoring, nah !!
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 08, 2010, 06:29:54 AM
There is a ... problem.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Andre on September 08, 2010, 06:33:27 AM
boss defending on da 2nd goal boys!

PANAMA CITY (AP)—Edwin Aguilar, Luis Tejada and Gabriel Gomez all scored to lead Panama past Trinidad and Tobago 3-0 in an international friendly Tuesday.

Interim Panama coach Jorge Dely left many of his regular players on the bench, looking at new faces for next year’s Central American championship.

Aguilar scored in the 13th and Tejada added his in the 75th. Gomez wrapped up the scoring on an 87th-minute penalty.

Panama drew 2-2 on Friday in a friendly with Costa Rica, one of the regional powers. Neither Panama nor Trinidad played at the World Cup in South Africa.

http://www.youtube.com/v/asX-zHw9kRw
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Touches on September 08, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
I drop asleep half time....I couldn't force mehself to watch the licks.

But just before the half we start to knock the ball lil bit and we get a couple chances.

From reading Flex it seems we stepped it up a gear in the 2nd half ....but we collect 2.

Also to concede 2 penalty in a game with 2 different keeper is unacceptable.

Also to collect 3 from Panama is also unacceptable.

Now we know that the friendlies chosen were the right ones as dis is the level we are at.

Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Trinimassive on September 08, 2010, 07:30:02 AM
The second half was an improvement. Yuh could see they were playing to plan but final ball let them down as well as the defense (nothing new there).
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: FF on September 08, 2010, 07:43:32 AM
Good article Flex... keep the pressure on Latapy and the TTFF... we aint standing for dis sh!t

Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: GunnerStunner on September 08, 2010, 07:44:12 AM
shit sides get shit results.plain and simple
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can't polish shit
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: weary1969 on September 08, 2010, 07:45:08 AM
OK ..OK

STOP  playing de fittball


 :rotfl:
No improvement then?
Lets hope RL can now switch to plan B.


Which is??....

Whatever is not PLAN A


So I stop followin d thread and went in meh bed. This is what greetin meh this morning. 1-0 2 3-0 then 2 hear iz 2 penalties. LOUDESTT OF  STEUPSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: elan on September 08, 2010, 07:45:38 AM
The second half was an improvement. Yuh could see they were playing to plan but final ball let them down as well as the defense (nothing new there).


So if we defense eh getting better and we still not producing chances in the final part of the field, what are we working on in practice?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 08, 2010, 07:47:50 AM
I drop asleep half time....I couldn't force mehself to watch the licks.

But just before the half we start to knock the ball lil bit and we get a couple chances.

From reading Flex it seems we stepped it up a gear in the 2nd half ....but we collect 2.

Also to concede 2 penalty in a game with 2 different keeper is unacceptable.

Also to collect 3 from Panama is also unacceptable.

Now we know that the friendlies chosen were the right ones as dis is the level we are at.



you should be accustomed by now see us get beat  ;D
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Marcos on September 08, 2010, 07:47:55 AM
Now we know that the friendlies chosen were the right ones as dis is the level we are at.

Wrong. This is clearly above our level. 3-nil is embarrassing licks at any level of football. We really need to work on our defending, but unfortunately the impression I am getting is that this isn't Latas' main focus. I want us to play a strong team, try to park the bus, and see how it turns out. It doh make sense trying to play a possession game if we don't have the technical ability to execute it. We kidding ourselves with this approach.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: FF on September 08, 2010, 07:52:53 AM
The second half was an improvement. Yuh could see they were playing to plan but final ball let them down as well as the defense (nothing new there).


So if we defense eh getting better and we still not producing chances in the final part of the field, what are we working on in practice?

Go and watch we practice... is only old talk and lime... no intensity

doh talk for in front ah goal... not ah man finishing a one one one... and some men cyah even hit ah cow backside with a cuatro.

after seeing we train ah wasnt surprised at de jamaica result... after seeing the jamaica game ah ent surprised at this result... more licks to come... hold on tight
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: eyezahspy on September 08, 2010, 08:03:41 AM
ummmm...why micah lewis not on this side again?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: MEP on September 08, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
bring back beenie
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: dinho on September 08, 2010, 08:52:20 AM
I read Flex article and was expecting to watch a shamble show from Aklie Edwards in the clip but i find he was real unfair to single him out in the report like that based on what i saw in the highlights. Come on now, with that own goal talk... He defended his man very well to cut out the one-two but then he mis-kick the clearance over the bar.. I swear is some piece ah comedy that take place.

i find Panama first goal was an excellent goal and not faulting the defence on that one.

The second goal... a comedy of errors, i lose count of the amount of times the defence had a chance to clear the judgement ball.

The third goal was never a penalty.

Them attackers we have there not saying nothing, men getting in good positions and kicking all manner of powder puff and overbars.. steups

Latapy need to be held accountable, because we definitely not seeing progress.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: jamaica2099 on September 08, 2010, 08:53:35 AM
Wow! I guess the "fire Russell Lapaty" thread will be up front and centre soon.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Sam on September 08, 2010, 09:35:08 AM
I read Flex article and was expecting to watch a shamble show from Aklie Edwards in the clip but i find he was real unfair to single him out in the report like that based on what i saw in the highlights. Come on now, with that own goal talk... He defended his man very well to cut out the one-two but then he mis-kick the clearance over the bar.. I swear is some piece ah comedy that take place.

So why yuh think Aklie was sub at half time.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: frico on September 08, 2010, 09:40:41 AM
The ref seems to have "set his stalls out" and any TT defender touch the Panama forwards,they would go down and a penalty would be awarded,apart from the one sided ref TT played well enough and could have easily got 2 or even 3 goals,as usual bad defending caused both goals.I am not a Latapy fan for coach but I have to say that TT did not play all that badly ,the score did not reflect the full story of the game,I feel there was some definite improvement.I think we knocked the ball about quite well and played some OK possession at times,I wonder what a better coach can do with these same boys,time will tell but we dont have alot of that.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Sam on September 08, 2010, 09:45:36 AM
They didn't play bad in the second half but they made too many errors and didnot take advantage of the chances they had. The first half T&T looked scrappy.

Latapy strategy is, to make teams come at them in the first half so they could get tired and then T&T step it up in the second half.

T&T defence let them down.

Jones looked good, he calm and made some good passes from the back, still very young and can only improve.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: elan on September 08, 2010, 09:46:10 AM
All we players need strength and conditioning....all.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Reggaefan on September 08, 2010, 10:04:36 AM
Ok, Ok...I join the bandwaggon....

3-0 to Panama? I thought we supposed to be improving Latas? If we going to be conceding regularly, at least have we scoring, nah !!

Why exactly do you feel you have a god-given right to beat teams like Panama? Give credit to Panama, their level of play has improved significantly over the years
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Socapro on September 08, 2010, 10:06:32 AM
Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
By: Inshan Mohammed.


Fresh from its 3-1 home defeat to the Reggae Boyz last month, T&T again started off the lackluster side and produced a terrible display football, especially in the first half.


Hey Flex, I think yuh need to swop the words I've highlighted in the 2nd paragraph around, shouldn't it read: football display ?

Otherwise good article!
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: sjahrain on September 08, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
I loved the flow in the second half,defensive lapses and we gave up 3 goals,I could not agree with either of the penalties but maybe I  am being partial
In the back of my mind I was saying this game deserved to be a tied game,then we gave up the second goal
You could tell there were a lot of jitters in the first half and then came the first goal,as soon as the defender allowed the ball to bounce in front of him rather than attacking it was over
I saw a lot of progress in the way Russell will like us to play in the second half,there were many accurate passes,we looked menacing and I am being serious,we were making 20 and 30 yard passes which went straight to the player it was intended for we weaved through the midfield with 7 to 9 passes I was impressed,we needed some shots on goal that was lacking and a goal which never came
I wonder if the defensive lapses were from not having a settled back line,as it appears we are still evolving in that third of the field,we have not played the last 3 to 4 games with the same backfield
Prof Latas keep doing your thing I now you will get right soon... :devil:
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Red Mango on September 08, 2010, 11:52:57 AM
Humiliating doesn't even begin to describe it... 2 penalties??? (although the second one suspiciously looks like a 7.5 from the judges, if but only for the splash) we look real poor at times...

That second goal still hurtin',  real 4ah-side defending dey... no heart, no intensity...

Ah wonder if dem fellas hear de crowd? Dais how de travelling support supposed to sound...

On ah side note though World Champions, Spain colleck 4 so The Football Gods, was really enjoyin' deyself dey last night...

Time, time for change, or it's de same ting again...
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: rotatopoti3 on September 08, 2010, 11:55:07 AM
In all fairness..d boys play alot better in the 2nd half.  

dem 2 penalties was harsh....plus the officials were Panamanian.

d 2nd goal was a definate shit goal...very bad defending ....no one could clear it out d box...

some good build up play in the end but we lacking firepower for sure...but as dey say rebuilding faze..

I dont see this as Latas fault ....mental lapses yes but it was not a humiliating defeat as the headline says...
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: rotatopoti3 on September 08, 2010, 11:59:21 AM
Hey idoit this is Panama we talking about here NOT f**kIN ENGLAND

Bamsee when yuh learn tuh spell idiot..then talk ...btw since when England wuz good..dey win anything recently..?? ;D
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Marcos on September 08, 2010, 12:07:50 PM
After he gets sacked by TTFF in shame lets see WHO will hire this BAG OF SHIT

You need to calm down. The man is a national hero and doesn't deserve that level of disrespect. It is fine to dislike his coaching style, but don't get carried away. You are just ruining your credibility here.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Blue on September 08, 2010, 12:28:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/asX-zHw9kRw

1:21 - what kinda f**ked up schoolboy defendin is that??  ???
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Themanfriday on September 08, 2010, 12:29:44 PM
SPEACHLESS
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: congo on September 08, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
The man not capable, he's definitely not a miracle worker...A good player doesn't necessarily mean a good coach...We need a capable and experienced coach to really handle these bunch of misfits..These boys need all the help they can get and sorry Latapy is not the man for this job.. Maybe in ten or 15 years but right now NO. By the way, by losing all these games, wouldn't our FIFA rankings plummet and jeopardize our players who rely on good rankings for work permits and what not.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Marcos on September 08, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
After he gets sacked by TTFF in shame lets see WHO will hire this BAG OF SHIT

You need to calm down. The man is a national hero and doesn't deserve that level of disrespect. It is fine to dislike his coaching style, but don't get carried away. You are just ruining your credibility here.

he is a national SHITHONG
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You are just ruining your credibility here.

hOW DOES MY "CREDIBILITY" AFFECT OUR NATIONAL TEAM?

Bray j@ck@$$. Bray
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Socafan on September 08, 2010, 03:13:44 PM
Would love to see this game, missed it (was at a Jonas Brothers Concert...LOL). But from the little I see there it seems to me the team playing a different brand..or trying to. A Brand I would like to see. ...AKA, no more boom kick football. It looks like they working on it. So me eh know. Midfield kinda look like they want to play a possession brand in attack and it looking ok too. They eh learn the defensive aspect of that brand yet though.

Defensively, there is no work ethic. Defenders either outnumbered or jogging or ballwatching while aggressive forwards doing what they feel like and standing where they want free as a bird. The mental aspect is still not there. That first goal, the defender should have been in the forward backpocket forcing him and the ball to the line. How yuh go allow a turn like that and get beat so there boy? From the time that ball was bouncing to the forward, he was supposed to feel body heat on his back. Dais not just coaching fellas, is just a natural thing yuh does do unthinkingly, when yuh playing defence. Waaay too much room. Them fellas need psychological help.

The forwards like they eh sure how or when  to push on and go to goal with aggressive intent. The thing is, I could see them like they trying to think it out, but the ideas coming slowly. Its all a mental problem with this team...always has been.

Fuh reggaefan.....Panama might be competition for Jamaica, but they've not been overly competitive for us.

Allyuh hush.......some more games might just right the ship.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: saga pinto on September 08, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
After he gets sacked by TTFF in shame lets see WHO will hire this BAG OF SHIT

You need to calm down. The man is a national hero and doesn't deserve that level of disrespect. It is fine to dislike his coaching style, but don't get carried away. You are just ruining your credibility here.

Well said brother these people should stick to the issue at hand it's about his coaching plain and simple.I have not seen russell in over 10 years,we're friends and have been since high school but I would tell him in his face the job of coaching is beyond his capabilities,but as a player I class him with some of the best in the world and he has been a great ambassador for our football,dedicated to his task whenever he was called on and loves his country.

The idea that someone would suggest he be afraid to walk the streets is utter nonsense,disrespectful,inflamatory and should be considered a threat and immediately ask to rescind those remarks or terminated from this site.         
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Post by: Spursy on September 08, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
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The idea that someone would suggest he be afraid to walk the streets is utter nonsense,disrespectful,inflamatory and should be considered a threat and immediately ask to rescind those remarks or terminated from this site.         
This is not a threat and I will not apologise to a person that has no respect for his own abilities. That latapy would continue to train the same crop of players and reap the same or even worse results have not gone un-noticed. It was latapy decision to select a local group of players to "rebuild" the national team leaving out many top players in the process. No one knows what he is trying to accomplish with his selection after it is clearly visable the culprits in the squad with no change what-so-ever.

You are his freind? Then call him and tell him what you think, if he don't respect the views of the general public on his selection and tactics what makes you think he will listen to you?

I hate to say it but as soon as qualification for major tournaments start and everyone starts to feel the heat what I wrote may become a reality. Whatever little Latas did in his lifetime as a player will not help him now that everyone is demanding results against teams on paper we should stomp.
Luckly for me this site is adminstrated by people who understands how the fans feel about the current situation. Quite frankly I wouldn't caer to much if I got banned from this site for speaking my mind, infact I have stopped supporting this shit squad latapy made for quite some times, jus sitting back watching the freak show.

You should be ashamed to call him your frien. If you not, I am ashamed for you.

QUESTION FOR YOU SMARTASS. HOW MANY MORE GOALS MUST TNT LET IN BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR DEFENSE?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Spursy on September 08, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
Here is some fun stats for you under latapy we have won 3 total games.

We beat ST Kits, Antigua and El Salvador.

We lost eight times conceding 28 goals in 11 games total, that's on average a wooping 2.6 goals we getting in we arse everytime we hit the field. ONLY A MORON would not change his defense. ONLY A MORON.

No dread we can do better than this. LET THE UNDER 17'S girls play in the digicel cup, alteast they have some pride and passion.
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Post by: gawd on pitch on September 08, 2010, 05:00:18 PM
Dont worry. More games against Belize, Montserrat, Cayman and yes Bermuda (who almost knocked us out) will get the boys prepared for 2014  :rotfl:. I am pretty sure if we round up some of the posters on here we could beat them as well. Watch how our fifa ranking (which doesnt really mean much) drop.  

If I was management I would cancel the games against Antigua and Belize. The resources being used to play Antigua and Belize could be used against much better quality opposition. Such as Venezuela, Haiti, Panama. Trust me playing these teams will give them an idea of what they need to do to qualify.

Now lets not get it twisted. Many of the guys playing are very talented and skillful. But there is a problem with team coordination. If you noticed they barely got the ball across the half. And at some point it seemed as if a few of them were playing for Panama.

When I was young, a coach told me that I was fast and skillful but if I wanted to be a good player I should always keep a count of my mistakes. I think management need to start of with at least that. Trust me it works.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: fatimarima on September 08, 2010, 05:02:46 PM
Dem defenders look real dotish for all dem goals yes.   The team look ok on the attack...not good...just ok.   Well Latas was never a defensive type of player so I guess as a coach, teaching and enforcing good ball winning and no-nonsense defense is not his strong point.  Hopefully when the more seasoned foreign based pros link up with the local guys,we can get better performances and results.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 08, 2010, 05:18:33 PM
Dem defenders look real dotish for all dem goals yes.   The team look ok on the attack...not good...just ok.   Well Latas was never a defensive type of player so I guess as a coach, teaching and enforcing good ball winning and no-nonsense defense is not his strong point.  Hopefully when the more seasoned foreign based pros link up with the local guys,we can get better performances and results.

You know what. We will. But it always comes too late.
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Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on September 08, 2010, 06:37:56 PM
OK ..OK

STOP  playing de fittball

:rotfl:
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: soccerman on September 08, 2010, 10:06:55 PM
OK ..OK

STOP  playing de fittball

:rotfl:

:rotfl:
Seriously though, we have a professional league in T&T, one of the top leagues in the Caribbean and our players still making simple school boy blunders. Best we just stop the league and have a men's developmental program where we learn how receive and pass, defend individually, defend as a team, possess the ball, finish, etc.
I even have a few coaching books and dvd's I'll be willing to donate to the program. Even with a local squad we should be able to hold our own against Panama and come away with a respectable result not 3-0.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: rastarocket7 on September 08, 2010, 11:01:07 PM
this was the first match ive seen since the WC tnt team.. you guys are comin real hard at these boys.. there playin away, tho be it vs a shitty panama side, it cant be an easy situation. they got screwed on a couple calls.. but when they settle down and pass the ball around they look decent.. they play like a team that has no chemesty. theres alot to learn from losing. this game didnt count for shit so relax and support this team. we dont need to be hating on our own shit.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Babalawo on September 08, 2010, 11:11:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/asX-zHw9kRw

1:21 - what kinda f**ked up schoolboy defendin is that??  ???
latapy's school boys
Title: Warriors go down 3-0 to Panama
Post by: Tallman on September 09, 2010, 06:53:22 AM
Warriors go down 3-0 to Panama
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFF)

Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team suffered another defeat at likely Concacaf World Cup opponents, this time going down 3-0 to Panama at the Rommel Fernandez Stadium on Tuesday night.

Russell Latapy’s men took a while to settle down and were punished in the 13th minute when Edwin Aguilar turned two defenders before clinically hitting past goalkeeper Jan Michael Williams to put the home team 1-0 ahead to the delight of a noisy home crowd of around 12,000.

Moments earlier, in the 9th minute, T&T had to thank Williams for pulling off a save to deny a penalty after he had pulled down Aguilar.

The quick start by the Panamanians had T&T on the backfoot from early on as skipper Trent Noel and Densill Theobald trying their best to settle things in the middle for the visitors. Devon Jorsling had a first half effort go over bar and another saved low down by the goalkeeper. Panama enjoyed a 56 percent advantage in possession to T&T’s 44 percent in the first half.

T&T had a much better start to the second half as Latapy seemed to have gotten his directives through to the players during the break.

The “Soca Warriors” began with more purpose, maintaining god possession going forward and controlled the pace for the opening 15 minutes of the second half. Kareem Young also made his international debut, coming on for Theobald in the 77th.

On 52 minute, Theobald played a good diagonal ball on the right to Hayden Tinto and his deep cross found Jorsling but the Defence Force marksman could only see his low shot pushed out for a corner on the near post.

Substitute Jovin Jones also tried his luck with a left footer which was well saved and on 57 minutes Theobald was again involved in the build up as Jones floated in a neat left side cross for Jason Marcano but his header drifted inches wide of the upright.

Substitute Tejada put Panama 2-0 ahead against the run of play, punishing T&T for some poor defensive work as three attempted clearances failed allowing Tejada to rifle past substitute goalkeeper Marvin Phillip from the six yard box.

Defender Kern Cupid was then adjudged to have committed a foul inside the penalty box allowing Gabriel Gomez to cheekily chip past Phillip on 87 minutes for a 3-0 lead.

. Latapy put on Ataulla Guerra and striker Kerry Baptiste later on but there was little that could be done to salvage a result for T&T by then.

Noel had a late effort for T&T, with a left footer which was pushed out on the near right post by goalkeeper Jose Calderon.

Latapy was notably disappointed with the result but added that he there were some positives with the way his team controlled the flow of the match in the second half before conceding its second goal.

Theobald added : “We came here looking to get a good result and it didn’t happen. I think we started slow but we kept in there after conceding early. We had a much better game in the second half and for moments I thought we were going to get that equalizer but then they got their second goal and we didn’t come back from there. Overall, the result was very disappointing but it’s a good opportunity for us to have the kind of matches here before the upcoming Digicel Caribbean Cup and the Gold Cup next year. We will face these same kind of opponents in the 2014 World Cup qualifiers also,” Theobald added.


Trinidad & Tobago: 21.Jan-Michael Williams (1.Marvin Phillip 46’); 5.Kern Cupid, 19.Daneil Cyrus, 6.Keston Williams, 3.Aklie Edwards (14.Jovin Jones 46th); 10.Hayden Tinto, 18.Densil Theobald (Kareem Young 77’), 11.Kevon Carter (2.Ataullah Guerra 56’); 13.Jason Marcano (4.Kerry Baptiste 70’), 8.Trent Noel,9.Devon Jorsling.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: grskywalker on September 09, 2010, 08:26:19 AM
boss defending on da 2nd goal boys!

PANAMA CITY (AP)—Edwin Aguilar, Luis Tejada and Gabriel Gomez all scored to lead Panama past Trinidad and Tobago 3-0 in an international friendly Tuesday.

Interim Panama coach Jorge Dely left many of his regular players on the bench, looking at new faces for next year’s Central American championship.

Aguilar scored in the 13th and Tejada added his in the 75th. Gomez wrapped up the scoring on an 87th-minute penalty.

Panama drew 2-2 on Friday in a friendly with Costa Rica, one of the regional powers. Neither Panama nor Trinidad played at the World Cup in South Africa.

http://www.youtube.com/v/asX-zHw9kRw

WE GET THREE FROM A SECOND STRING PANAMA SIDE WHAT THE HELL I READING BOY   :frustrated:
WHEN WILL THE SHIT END? CAN WE GET ANOTHER DUTCH COACH OR A FREAKING US COACH PLEASE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: grskywalker on September 09, 2010, 08:34:35 AM
With all due respect Latas I was 100% a fan while you played, no one could touch you, but please, please do some more courses, attend international coaching seminars and maybe work with our youth teams but I really don't think you are ready for this level Please do some introspection, there is no shame. I will support but we have got to start getting some results :waiting:
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: signal on September 09, 2010, 08:57:32 AM
Im starting to think that this is a master plan by the TTFF aka Jack Warner to make our Senior men team look bad in the eyes of the population.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Marcos on September 09, 2010, 09:09:24 AM
WE GET THREE FROM A SECOND STRING PANAMA SIDE WHAT THE HELL I READING BOY   :frustrated:
WHEN WILL THE SHIT END? CAN WE GET ANOTHER DUTCH COACH OR A FREAKING US COACH PLEASE!!!!!!!

YOU REALIZE WE FIELDED A SECOND STRING TNT SIDE?
WHAT THE HELL I READING BOY
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: de_redman on September 09, 2010, 09:23:34 AM
Im starting to think that this is a master plan by the TTFF aka Jack Warner to make our Senior men team look bad in the eyes of the population.
:thinking:
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: TRUwarrior on September 09, 2010, 09:44:36 AM
Im starting to think that this is a master plan by the TTFF aka Jack Warner to make our Senior men team look bad in the eyes of the population.
:thinking:
???
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: elan on September 09, 2010, 10:26:38 AM
What if Latas have the last laugh in 2012/2013?

What if this is the plan drawn up by the TTFF technical staff?

What if this actually worked out in the end?

Are we asking for to much?

Are our expectations unrealistic?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: FF on September 09, 2010, 10:28:53 AM
What if Latas have the last laugh in 2012/2013?

What if this is the plan drawn up by the TTFF technical staff?

What if this actually worked out in the end?

Are we asking for to much?

Are our expectations unrealistic?

wha is de plan... play dead to ketch cobo alive?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: rippin on September 09, 2010, 10:58:28 AM
In my little knowledge TnT never had a strong solid back four. It always had a heart attack man in the back. Maybe the TD needs to do a coaching program specifically geared to this so that we can start a pipeline from young . If somebody could pull a few links and get a defensive specialist to come for 6 months and do some knowledge transference it will do us a whole lot of good.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: soccerman on September 09, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
In my little knowledge TnT never had a strong solid back four. It always had a heart attack man in the back. Maybe the TD needs to do a coaching program specifically geared to this so that we can start a pipeline from young . If somebody could pull a few links and get a defensive specialist to come for 6 months and do some knowledge transference it will do us a whole lot of good.
Someone like Faustin?
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Flex on September 10, 2010, 06:37:21 AM
From the T&T Guardian.

Speaking via telephone prior the the T&T squad’s training session at the Goal Project venue yesterday, Soca Warriors manager, David Muhammad said the team was eager to get back to winning ways. “We had some time to analyse what went wrong against Panama and the guys are all keen to get back on track with regards to their Digicel Caribbean Cup preparations.

“The mood of the players is good and since the match on Tuesday we have done a lot of team introspection and had some long discussions among players and staff about what we need to improve on.” “We are all keenly looking forward to the match against Belize as the guys want to pick back up that winning attitude ahead of our next match,” added Muhammad.
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: zuluwarrior on September 10, 2010, 07:19:44 AM
A good player doesn't necessarily mean a good coach.

Latarz i wish you would of stayed where you was and not take this coaching job or for that matter coach the under 17 team because i said it from the begining you aint ready yet .
 Part of this blame must be shared by the warriors pundits who incourage this bullshit the same ones who calling for you to be fired now . 
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: grskywalker on September 18, 2010, 12:55:52 PM
What if Latas have the last laugh in 2012/2013?

What if this is the plan drawn up by the TTFF technical staff?

What if this actually worked out in the end?

Are we asking for to much?

Are our expectations unrealistic?

Then I would be the first to admit that I was wrong about his coaching abilities
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
Part of this blame must be shared by the warriors pundits who incourage this bullshit the same ones who calling for you to be fired now . 

exactly
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 18, 2010, 02:52:06 PM
What if Latas have the last laugh in 2012/2013?

What if this is the plan drawn up by the TTFF technical staff?

What if this actually worked out in the end?

Are we asking for to much?

Are our expectations unrealistic?

wha is de plan... play dead to ketch cobo alive?

That was Maturana's brand.....so Latapy learn something from him while undermining him.  Dat Latapy is a genius!!.... ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Warriors suffer another humiliating defeat.
Post by: Socapro on September 20, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
Part of this blame must be shared by the warriors pundits who incourage this bullshit the same ones who calling for you to be fired now . 

exactly

Okay lets fairly aportion the blame between TTFF, Latas, Players & Pundits!

Q.Who out of those four picks the head coach again?
A.TTFF (aka JW)

Q.Was the coach fully qualified and proven to have the required experience?
A. No
Q.Who to blame for that out of the four options?
A.TTFF

Q.Was Russell greedy & selfish in grabbing the oportunity to coach a national senior team and prove to everyone whether or not he was up to the job?
A.No

Q.Does Russell want to be seen as a failure as a coach?
A.No

Q.What should RL do, wait for TTFF to sack him, blame the players or ask for help?
A.He should ask for help but that could be viewed by many as RL admitting to failure.

Q.What should the players do?
A.Much better than they are currently doing against Caribbean opponents even with RL as head coach or give up trying to play for the national team!
The fact that we are stuggling to beat the likes of Antigua who don't have a pro-league like ours means either our pro-league/players are lacking or our head coach is lacking or a combination of both as compared with the talent and coaching in Caribbean countries like Antigua. Squeezing a 1-0 win away to Antigua is barely acceptable!

In conclusion this is how the blame should be aportioned in my opinion:

80% TTFF, 10% coach, 10% players, pundits 0%

Case closed!! 8)
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