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Title: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Flex on February 01, 2012, 07:35:22 PM
The Trini-Ronaldinho?
By: Inshan Mohammed.


Okay fine, maybe he is not as good or even close to the real Ronaldinho, however he does have a similar style in his play to the Brazilian legend, so you never know.

His name is Michael Roopchandsingh, a 20-year old New York-born footballer with Trinidadian parentage. Both of his parents are from South Trinidad, his mother (Carol) was born in Fyzabad, and his father (Tony) hails from La Romain.

Roopie as he is commonly known is strong on his left foot, has great skill and speed, loves to run at defenders and prides himself on being a team player.

College Career

Mike has had some success during his college and high school years in the U.S. He played for many teams including, Quickstrike FC, JBS, Newburgh FC, Newburgh Free Academy and most recently Herkimer County Community College.

Some of his accomplishments are; 2007 and 2008 first team all-star; Herkimer CCC first team all tournament team, first team all region and 2011 national champions. The talented left-winger has also managed to amass 45 goals with 75 assists in his career so far.

During his schooling years it was not always on the up for Mike as he felt heartbroken when his team Newburgh FC lost in the 2007 Sectional Championship final, and then he suffered the same fate at Herkimer County when they lost in the 2010 National NJCAA Championship finals to Suffolk’s Clippers.

Jonathon Rosscraig scored the equalizer after receiving an assist from none other than Roopie, but Herkimer could not hold on. Despite numerous chances on goal the Clippers delivered the final blow as Dimas Escobar notched his double and Herkimer’s Generals sank to a 2-1 defeat as the Clippers took home the trophy.

T&T call-up

Since then, Mike has gotten over the disappointment and has moved on to bigger and better things. He received many offers from schools in the US and while he is still deciding on his future as far as his education is concerned, the talented ball weaver has been trialing with the Trinidad and Tobago National Under 23 Olympic team.

It all began when Mike contacted the Soca Warriors Online (SWO) and expressed his interest in donning the red, white and black. His trial was eventually set up through yours truly and with the help of former T&T U-23 manager Norris Ferguson and assistant coach Derek King, Michael was on his way to the motherland.

There he received a warm welcome from his new found teammates and was quickly off to a training camp in Tobago. At first he said it was a little difficult as he did not know his teammates too well and felt uncomfortable playing his game. He told the SWO that he has never played at this level and felt a bit nervous which may have resulted in him not being selected to play against Finland in T&T’s first U-23 friendly before the Olympic final qualifiers in March 2012.

The ice eventually broke after a few sessions and Mike ended his trial on a positive note, as he did enough to earn a call back to another training camp set for next month in Tobago.

Regarding his experience with T&T’s U-23s Mike said: "I really didn't get much feedback from the coaches on how I performed and I feel I wasn’t really given a chance to run at defenders and make plays, so most of the time when I got the ball I would just pass it off. This however, was my fault, but I will learn from the experience and do better next time.”

"We had a scrimmage against Scarborough Secondary School which we won 3-1 and I went on in the last 20 minutes as a substitute.  I thought I played well, but I didn't run at defenders as I like to. I am still in a shell and I’m a little afraid to be myself with the ball as this is something new to me. During my next session we did some drills and shooting and I felt I showed Coach Angus Eve and his assistant Derek King that I can score with both feet."

"Then the big news came, I did not make the final 20 man squad to play against Finland, but in all fairness, the T&T team is of a very high-level and they are a great bunch of players who deserve their pick on the team."

"So for the game against Finland, I was in the Dwight Yorke Stadium cheering on the guys and I was very impressed with T&T and the players, especially Kevin Molino. Kevin is a baller! I would love to play alongside him, because together I feel we have a similar style and we can do a lot of damage to defenders."

"I was very happy T&T won and I think this team can go all the way.  We all know Mexico and USA are two top teams in CONCACAF, but I have no doubt in my mind T&T has the talent to beat them."

"Angus Eve and Derek King are doing a really great job with these guys and I am hoping I could be part of their plans. They treated me really nice and I am really grateful for such an opportunity. It was something I have never experienced in my life and something I will never forget."

Assistant coach Derek King gave his impression of Mike saying, "Well he is not a bad player at all, but he lacks the experience playing at this level, so it’s understandable that Mike will take a little more time to come along. The players we have now are at a good level with international experience, but we are keeping a close eye on Mike."

Brian Southworth, head coach of the Eastern N.Y. Premiere Travel Soccer Club said that: "Mike was one of the better players I have ever coached. He is passionate about the game, he was a pleasure to coach because of his attitude and work-rate and he never gives up."

"Mike is a genuine fighter, I believe if he does make the Trinidad and Tobago team they would benefit greatly because he is a player once he is on the top of his game he could change a situation in a heart beat, he is dynamic, technically gifted and his vision is excellent."

"In 2004/05 we were New York State Eastern U-15 Premiere league semi-finalist and the following year we won the U-16 title, which Mike played a pivotal role on the team success, ended coach Southworth."

Southworth holds a United States Soccer Federation (USSF) License and has over 15 years Youth Soccer Coaching Experience.

Heading East?

While Mike is patiently awaiting his next T&T camp, he is on a trial spell with T&T Pro League outfit North East Stars with the hope of joining their reserve team as he contemplates his professional career and educational opportunities.

He has already played in one of their games and based on Kevin Harrison’s (North East Stars Operations Director) report, he impressed.

On Saturday January 28, North East Stars Senior team played their Reserves in St John’s, St Augustine. The reported stated: "Roopie played from the start for the Reserves (same team that beat Army Reserves last week, which included many 1st team players including Richard Roy and Ross Russell Jr)."

"Roopie never really had the chance to show his best stuff. Some of this was due to the formation and some due to being new to the team with no real chance to build an understanding."

"Aside from the North East coaches though - Alcantara, Jeffrey and Sancho, there was also an assistant coach from St John’s University in USA who has spent a few days with North East Stars looking for talent. All of the coaches confirmed Roopie as a quality player."

"He will now train with the Reserves to get acclimatized and then obviously, if he shines through, will move up to the senior squad."

"He's a hard working player (which obviously didn't show on his personal DVD) and can take licks. It was full body contact today and Roopie took some knocks but got on with his game."

"Most refreshing was his enthusiasm, and he's a genuinely nice guy. Looking forward to him settling in and setting the Pro League alight, but first, I can't wait to see him in the Reserves, maybe even this week”, ended Kevin Harrison.

Mike loves football so much that he has tattooed ‘I love soccer’ on his neck and though he still needs to learn the tricks of the trade, one thing he surely has going for him is his talent and desire to be a great footballer like his idol Ronaldinho. Mike is also very close to his brother who is very ill and is in a wheelchair, and he dedicates every goal he scores to him.

"I love football and even though I was not born in Trinidad and Tobago I feel very connected. I love the people and the country, and I guess my parents did a great job raising us." My family here in Trinidad has also been very nice to me thus far. Even the fans are great.  I was moved by some of the guys on the SWO who were so supportive and despite some negative comments, most were very positive and encouraging and I want to say thanks to you all”, ended Mike.

With its small talent pool and no set of developmental program in place, T&T can’t afford to discard any of its young hopefuls, especially those that possess Mike’s talent and desire to represent T&T at the highest level. I am of the opinion Michael Roopchandsingh is one to watch for the future. He can produce electrifying moments on the field and I believe if afforded the opportunity to further establish himself in T&T’s national set up he could possibly be as influential in T&T’s game as his Brazilian idol is to Brazil.

Video: See Mike in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8eZqE10n0c).

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Errol on February 01, 2012, 08:40:31 PM
Very well put together Flex.

Mike seems to have the right attitude and desire to play football which is a recipe for greatness.

I wish him the best in this next trial for T&T. Wether he makes the team or not, I hope wish him well, keep your hed up kid.

North East Stars seems to be stepping up its desire to sign some good young talents these days, big up to them as well.

I am hoping to buy a Roopie shirt soon.  ;D
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Deeks on February 01, 2012, 08:53:01 PM
i hope he makes it. I just hope the TTFF don't screw up with their program. I glad he came and made appearance. At least Angus and them know about him. But I think he should be on training squad, at least. But nice moves and good first touch. Kinda remind me of Peter Mitchell.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Cocorite on February 01, 2012, 10:03:36 PM
Excellent idea Flex, to do a piece on Roopie. Great job.

All the best to Roop.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: soccerman on February 01, 2012, 11:32:40 PM
He definitely have the talent as a skilled player, hope he keeps working hard wothout being discouraged at the moment. Things will work out for this kid.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: trini_stallion on February 02, 2012, 05:05:43 AM
Flex BOSSS article! :beermug:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Star Child on February 02, 2012, 05:15:13 AM
Is Roopie related to Javed Mohammed who plays for T&TEC ? They sure look alike and they both left footed, Javed is also from La Romain.

Tallman, Flex, anyone ?

(http://www.herkimergenerals.com/sports/msoc/2010-11/bios/MS10a-076.jpg?max_width=150)
Mike

(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics10/200/ZU/ZUKTXGCQGFLHVMU.20080527151649.jpg)
Javed


By the way Flex, this is a boss write up on this youth.

I wish him all the best.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tallman on February 02, 2012, 06:49:18 AM
Ah thought it was Guerra?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: kicker on February 02, 2012, 08:20:20 AM
Well done Roops - stick with it.

Well done socawarriors.net for networking this kid into a good opportunity. Flex yuh deserve a lil agent's fee if he gets signed to a pro-league club!! lol....
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Observer on February 02, 2012, 08:39:45 AM
Success is largely dependent on one's mental attitude. This young player seems to understand himself & where he stands in football. He can self evaluate, be critical & as a consequence have a plan to direct his growth. Very impressive! Look out!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 02, 2012, 09:04:17 AM
I will be honest, it will be a miracle if this kid makes T&T Under 23 team and it have nothing to do with Roopie, but Angus Eve and Derek King is typical TTFF gun man. Angus Eve is in the mold of Anton Corneal.

Now, I want to make myself clear because man here will say that I am being bias for Roopie, but this is not about Roopie it is about foreign born players, our local coaches in T&T do not respect them (99% of them), like it or not, T&T locals are piss ass coaches and when they fail they go blame de players like Anton Corneal.

All I can tell Roopie is, if he sign for North East Stars make sure yuh bun up de T&T league, set de place on fire and make Angus Eve and Derek King eye run water.

Cameron Roget to, mash them up youth,,,,,, atleast you on de team,,,, but dont expect to make de final 20, not with Eve and them around.

And I hearing this from people close to de team. I also hearing that de olympic team crying that they not getting paid and they want to boycott T&T, and if this happens you will see how quick Angus Eve will call back Roopie......

Big up Flex for this nice article, I wish this youth all de best, grab this opportunity with both hands and blaze it up !!!!!! dance to soca youth..... thanks to man like Flex to recognising we youths.

My advice to all parents who live aboard and have T&T kids, keep them far away from T&T !!!!!

Thank you Ricky Shakes, he had the last laugh on Anton Corneal.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on February 02, 2012, 09:45:57 AM
Wonderful story they Flex and nice exposure for the youthman, I hope he focuses on the positives.

BTW, If Angus Eve did not pick him because he was not good enough for the team then that is fine.

But I just hope they did not judge him because of his race or his tattoos or else that would be a bloody shame.

Sam, Flex did mention that Eve invited Roopie back to train with T&T ? or did you hear something from de down low ?

What I dont understand is, why would they make foreign parents waste their hard earn money to pay for their kids to come and trial with the T&T team and they already know they not getting picked. Why didn't they just be straight up about it in the first place.

Now I don't feel to bad about Nick DeLeon and Kevan George dissing T&T.

Star Child, when saying so, them pics really look similar, maybe Javed and Mike related in truth ?

PS: FS, is Roopie now a NE Stars player ?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Flex on February 02, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
I do not know Angus Eve on a personal level so I cannot speak for him.

However, I can tell you that Derek King is a very nice guy and he was the one, both him and Ferguson that accepted Mike to come on trial.

I have not spoken to Mike in a while, so I do not know the latest developments, maybe he is invited back to trian with T&T, or maybe not. ? I am not 100% sure.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 02, 2012, 11:21:24 AM
Flex,,,, Derek King might be a decent fella,,,,,,, but Eve, Coops, Gally, Corneal etc, all them ole heads from de same school..... de only foreign players making T&T under 23 side MIGHT be de ones who playing in de MLS because them T&T coach DONT HAVE A CHOICE !!!!!

Maybe Mike should take a perm. ....  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on February 02, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
I will be honest, it will be a miracle if this kid makes T&T Under 23 team and it have nothing to do with Roopie, but Angus Eve and Derek King is typical TTFF gun man. Angus Eve is in the mold of Anton Corneal.

Now, I want to make myself clear because man here will say that I am being bias for Roopie, but this is not about Roopie it is about foreign born players, our local coaches in T&T do not respect them (99% of them), like it or not, T&T locals are piss ass coaches and when they fail they go blame de players like Anton Corneal.

All I can tell Roopie is, if he sign for North East Stars make sure yuh bun up de T&T league, set de place on fire and make Angus Eve and Derek King eye run water.

Cameron Roget to, mash them up youth,,,,,, atleast you on de team,,,, but dont expect to make de final 20, not with Eve and them around.

And I hearing this from people close to de team. I also hearing that de olympic team crying that they not getting paid and they want to boycott T&T, and if this happens you will see how quick Angus Eve will call back Roopie......

Big up Flex for this nice article, I wish this youth all de best, grab this opportunity with both hands and blaze it up !!!!!! dance to soca youth..... thanks to man like Flex to recognising we youths.

My advice to all parents who live aboard and have T&T kids, keep them far away from T&T !!!!!

Thank you Ricky Shakes, he had the last laugh on Anton Corneal.



I'm hearing that they were offered $200 as their match fee for Finland. The players get vex and refused to train Tues and Weds.

Also, these regular training sessions are not respectful of Pro League clubs. Not sure of all teams agendas but North East played Tuesday, Reserves today (Thurs), St Anns Friday, FA Trophy Sunday, Army Tuesday, Reserve game weds or thurs, Jabloteh Friday. How the ass can we release 4 players and a member of staff? We have Jean-Luc, Drogba, Butters and Marchant. All playing in first team. You try to be patriotic, but you have prioritise your club.

We then have a two week break for carnival (thats madness!), so why doesn't Eve call a 10 day camp then? So, they miss one carnival for the chance of playing in USA and maybe London. Players in UK miss Christmas with their families every year. One 33 year old player told me that he hadn't had Christmas dinner with his family since he was 17.

Also, I've heard no indication of arrangements for the league while the squad is overseas. Will there be another 2 week break then?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on February 02, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
Wonderful story they Flex and nice exposure for the youthman, I hope he focuses on the positives.

BTW, If Angus Eve did not pick him because he was not good enough for the team then that is fine.

But I just hope they did not judge him because of his race or his tattoos or else that would be a bloody shame.

Sam, Flex did mention that Eve invited Roopie back to train with T&T ? or did you hear something from de down low ?

What I dont understand is, why would they make foreign parents waste their hard earn money to pay for their kids to come and trial with the T&T team and they already know they not getting picked. Why didn't they just be straight up about it in the first place.

Now I don't feel to bad about Nick DeLeon and Kevan George dissing T&T.

Star Child, when saying so, them pics really look similar, maybe Javed and Mike related in truth ?

PS: FS, is Roopie now a NE Stars player ?

At this stage, Roopie is training with the reserves. Ultimately, the coach will decide if he wants to sign him. He trained with first team on monday. I know the coaches like him, so we'll see how he progresses. I think he will be registered for N.E., maybe on a non contract basis for now to preserve his amateur status. Once I know something definate I will inform the forum.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Andre on February 02, 2012, 01:23:04 PM
nice video. skills for so.

if i was defending him ah woulda have to mash him up  :devil:. i is the trini gattuso.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: shelly on February 02, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with race is why Mike is not getting picked, however,  it would surely be nice to add a little diversity to the team, it would generate more support and a better chance to get sponsors. Lets face it guys, there is a lot of rich business men in Trinidad who are indio-Trinis.

About the match fee, is that in TT or US?

Look how times have changed, today all the generation only cares about money first and then success, even regular players like this current under 23 team, imagine if they where real stars? No one cares how important it is to fly your T&T flag and the ones who will die to wear the Jersey is being ignored.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: warmonga on February 02, 2012, 02:29:40 PM
Shelly  keep the race thing outta this nuh . leave dat for Professor sc and Professor jc dem fellas good at race talk.. Roopie guh get his turn when he is able to play wid the big boys....Keep yu head up roopie and play yu ball.. Trus mi wid football and cricket In TNT race has never been an issue once yu could play yu good to go ..
blessings...
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Controversial on February 02, 2012, 03:29:13 PM
as long as those coaches and their cabal controlling selection and nat'l football, tt football will be at the bottom.

they have to get rid of all of them... that is the only way to solve our football problem
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on February 02, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
as long as those coaches and their cabal controlling selection and nat'l football, tt football will be at the bottom.

they have to get rid of all of them... that is the only way to solve our football problem
      You know what's funny about this,when Jack was there Jack used to select the teams,now is the Coaches and their cabal controlling selection and national team Football,who alyu expect to select our national teams.Typical Trinis never satisfied or can't agree on anything,that's what have Football struggling.
         
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Deeks on February 02, 2012, 05:03:28 PM
Shelly  keep the race thing outta this nuh . leave dat for Professor sc and Professor jc dem fellas good at race talk.. Roopie guh get his turn when he is able to play wid the big boys....Keep yu head up roopie and play yu ball.. Trus mi wid football and cricket In TNT race has never been an issue once yu could play yu good to go ..
blessings...

War to be honest, I am glad this lil yute come home and spicing up the football a bit. Even though I don't like to bring up the race, I glad he appeared on the football scene in TT. I honestly hope he serves as a role model for all TT yutes, especially the young Indos. For some reason their is this mental block that they can't play football or football is for black boys and cricket is for we. It has to start with the family. They have to encourage them to look at the game seriously. But then again, the cabal that run football for the past 30 years gave no encouragement either.

The video show that this kid has a drive and determination and the kind of skills(Peter Mitchell, Marvin Oliver, Toussaint, Deleon, Latas),  that give a team an edge when they playing another team on the same level. But he needs to be with a professional outfit NOW. Either local or in the US.  I hope he makes the U-23. But I am not the coach. Angus will make that decision. And I praying he gets it right.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on February 02, 2012, 05:21:11 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with race is why Mike is not getting picked, however,  it would surely be nice to add a little diversity to the team, it would generate more support and a better chance to get sponsors. Lets face it guys, there is a lot of rich business men in Trinidad who are indio-Trinis.

About the match fee, is that in TT or US?

Look how times have changed, today all the generation only cares about money first and then success, even regular players like this current under 23 team, imagine if they where real stars? No one cares how important it is to fly your T&T flag and the ones who will die to wear the Jersey is being ignored.

The match fee is in TT. Pride is a superb motivator, but it don't pay the rent. When was the last time you were asked to work additional days for free to promote your company, knowing full well that your boss was earning 10 times your salary, yet only gave you a pocketful of change for your troubles?

Football is a trade. While I don't believe players should be paid thousands, I do think they're worth more than TT$200. I don't know, but I wonder if TTFF administrators travelled over to Tobago and stayed in a 5 star hotel? Because they don't need to be there. The players do.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on February 02, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
Shelly  keep the race thing outta this nuh . leave dat for Professor sc and Professor jc dem fellas good at race talk.. Roopie guh get his turn when he is able to play wid the big boys....Keep yu head up roopie and play yu ball.. Trus mi wid football and cricket In TNT race has never been an issue once yu could play yu good to go ..
blessings...

War to be honest, I am glad this lil yute come home and spicing up the football a bit. Even though I don't like to bring up the race, I glad he appeared on the football scene in TT. I honestly hope he serves as a role model for all TT yutes, especially the young Indos. For some reason their is this mental block that they can't play football or football is for black boys and cricket is for we. It has to start with the family. They have to encourage them to look at the game seriously. But then again, the cabal that run football for the past 30 years gave no encouragement either.

The video show that this kid has a drive and determination and the kind of skills(Peter Mitchell, Marvin Oliver, Toussaint, Deleon, Latas),  that give a team an edge when they playing another team on the same level. But he needs to be with a professional outfit NOW. Either local or in the US.  I hope he makes the U-23. But I am not the coach. Angus will make that decision. And I praying he gets it right.
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?
      When you say you hope Angus gets it right what do you mean,Roopie should make the national team?i would like to see NE Stars select him that will tell me if he has the ability to play on the national team,all those guys on the U23 playing in the Pro league. 
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on February 02, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
as long as those coaches and their cabal controlling selection and nat'l football, tt football will be at the bottom.

they have to get rid of all of them... that is the only way to solve our football problem
      You know what's funny about this,when Jack was there Jack used to select the teams,now is the Coaches and their cabal controlling selection and national team Football,who alyu expect to select our national teams.Typical Trinis never satisfied or can't agree on anything,that's what have Football struggling.

Again, you acting like you do not know what is going on in T&T football. Jack Warner is still involved or he left his people there, different people under the same ruling and same philosophy.

Wake up man, you were there once you of all people should know.

The problem is the TTFF, they just cant get it together, same people and same decisions, expect different outcome.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on February 02, 2012, 05:30:03 PM
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?
      When you say you hope Angus gets it right what do you mean,Roopie should make the national team?i would like to see NE Stars select him that will tell me if he has the ability to play on the national team,all those guys on the U23 playing in the Pro league. 

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one with Oliver and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.

How many times we sit here and beg for players like Robert Primus, Boucaud, Hector, Jake Thomson, Collin Samuel, Cornell Glen, Yohance Marshall, Darryl Roberts etc to be called up for T&T.

Give the guy an A for trying and willing to give up school to play in the T&T leagues, both Roopie and Cameron Roget are making major sacrifices and I hope it pays off in the end for both of them.

While the locals looking to strike, the foreigners willing to play, what a hell of a thing.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tallman on February 02, 2012, 05:46:50 PM
Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

Marvin's issues were not related to football. By de time Marvin went back home, you could argue dat he missed his window of opportunity.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: shelly on February 02, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with race is why Mike is not getting picked, however,  it would surely be nice to add a little diversity to the team, it would generate more support and a better chance to get sponsors. Lets face it guys, there is a lot of rich business men in Trinidad who are indio-Trinis.

About the match fee, is that in TT or US?

Look how times have changed, today all the generation only cares about money first and then success, even regular players like this current under 23 team, imagine if they where real stars? No one cares how important it is to fly your T&T flag and the ones who will die to wear the Jersey is being ignored.

The match fee is in TT. Pride is a superb motivator, but it don't pay the rent. When was the last time you were asked to work additional days for free to promote your company, knowing full well that your boss was earning 10 times your salary, yet only gave you a pocketful of change for your troubles?

Football is a trade. While I don't believe players should be paid thousands, I do think they're worth more than TT$200. I don't know, but I wonder if TTFF administrators travelled over to Tobago and stayed in a 5 star hotel? Because they don't need to be there. The players do.

Agreed !!!!

And thanks for clearing this up. $200 TT is bad.

However, I believe, you need to prove yourself and money will follow and these young people in Trinidad today just wants to be rich over night for nothing, they have to understand they have to work hard and make sacrifices to be successful.

Yorke played for a pair of boots when he was a young player in Tobago, today he is rich becuase he worked hard and didn't think about being rich first.

This is a great opportunity for our young players, they could benefit greatly from play in the Olympic qualifiers in LA. You cant be "Penny wise, pound foolish".
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on February 02, 2012, 05:55:26 PM
Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

Marvin's issues were not related to football. By de time Marvin went back home, you could argue dat he missed his window of opportunity.

Thank you Tallman and at what age he retured to T&T again ?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on February 02, 2012, 05:55:43 PM
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.


      You only talking crap,i know a number of guys who suffered because of their hairstyles from making the national team,
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.

How many times we sit here and beg for players like Robert Primus, Boucaud, Hector, Jake Thomson, Collin Samuel, Cornell Glen, Yohance Marshall, Darryl Roberts etc to be called up for T&T.


       You don't make any team by begging to be on it,you make a team through hard work and ability,it's always up to the Coaches to select you.
       Guys like Brian Williams broke barriers,i can call many players who was not considered for national selection because of their hairstyles Clauzel is one example,don't tell me hair had nothing to do with it,that has changed quite a lot.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 02, 2012, 06:03:49 PM
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.


      You only talking crap,i know a number of guys who suffered because of their hairstyles from making the national team,
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.

How many times we sit here and beg for players like Robert Primus, Boucaud, Hector, Jake Thomson, Collin Samuel, Cornell Glen, Yohance Marshall, Darryl Roberts etc to be called up for T&T.


       You don't make any team by begging to be on it,you make a team through hard work and ability,it's always up to the Coaches to select you.
       Guys like Brian Williams broke barriers,i can call many players who was not considered for national selection because of their hairstyles Clauzel is one example,don't tell me hair had nothing to do with it,that has changed quite a lot.

Hey coops, who begging to be on the T&T team ? Remind meh again ?

Arnold Dwarika broke barriers to, not just Brian Williams.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Preacher on February 02, 2012, 06:32:22 PM
Doh expect nobody to give you nutten.  Be the the best.  Yuh hear that youth man?  Doh geh yuh head tie up with a lil press and don't be discouraged by the way T&T seem to handle things.  Nobody could ever block what God have for you.   Be the best Roops that's all u can do. 
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on February 02, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.


      You only talking crap,i know a number of guys who suffered because of their hairstyles from making the national team,
       Deeks i'm glad you mention Marvin Oliver,he never made a national team with all the ability he has,he dominated school and club Football for years,even won a car as MVP of the Pro league,never got selected and nobody got on as they are getting on for Roopie,all they did was talk about the hair on his head,the thing is Roopie has just as much hair could that be the cause?

I am surprise you didn't blame Terry Fenwick for this one and if you go back to the thread you will see many here asking for Marvin Oliver to be included on the T&T team despite being 34 and have a discipline problem.

He got MVP four years ago and got a cap for T&T.

Hair has nothing to do with it, Brian Williams and Arnold Dwarika was some of my favorite players, aparently people of your age group is the problem in T&T today, they want to control everything and still have the island man mentality.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And btw, no one here is saying Roopie must be on the team. We want the T&T coaches to keep him under their radar, he tried and did not make the team, he is young and off course he have some talent, he is willing to play in T&T and for T&T, why not keep him close. ?

He deserve a chance like a few who got chances galore for the T&T team and wasted it, like- Rahim, Jemmott, Guerra, Aklie Edwards, Keon Daniel etc.

How many times we sit here and beg for players like Robert Primus, Boucaud, Hector, Jake Thomson, Collin Samuel, Cornell Glen, Yohance Marshall, Darryl Roberts etc to be called up for T&T.


       You don't make any team by begging to be on it,you make a team through hard work and ability,it's always up to the Coaches to select you.
       Guys like Brian Williams broke barriers,i can call many players who was not considered for national selection because of their hairstyles Clauzel is one example,don't tell me hair had nothing to do with it,that has changed quite a lot.

Hey coops, who begging to be on the T&T team ? Remind meh again ?

Arnold Dwarika broke barriers to, not just Brian Williams.
      Sam,Sando said to me that we on the site beg for players to be on the national team that's why i said what i said,i never said anyone was begging to be on the national team.If you notice i said "Guys" like Brian Williams broke barriers.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 02, 2012, 06:51:41 PM
      Sam,Sando said to me that we on the site beg for players to be on the national team that's why i said what i said,i never said anyone was begging to be on the national team.If you notice i said "Guys" like Brian Williams broke barriers.

Coops, as a older on the forum you need to be more supportive especially for the youths who WILLING to scarfice everything, yes we or I will speak for myself, I like Roopie and I like also that he is indian, I dont put water in my mouth, but first and foremost, he willing to play for our country, he came here and asked for a trial and got one, he did not make de side and I know a few things I cannot say, so leave it as that.

I hope he plays for North East Stars and move on to bigger things, because I like de youthman, he have talent, maybe he not ready yet for T&T level, but I hope he make a great comeback when ever he gets the chance again, I appreicate NE Stars for giving him a chance, Kevin and Brent Sancho deserve a big up for that.

People like Roopie who wants to play for T&T should be incourgae not damed !!!!!

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on February 02, 2012, 06:58:31 PM
      Sam,Sando said to me that we on the site beg for players to be on the national team that's why i said what i said,i never said anyone was begging to be on the national team.If you notice i said "Guys" like Brian Williams broke barriers.

Coops, as a older on the forum you need to be more supportive especially for the youths who WILLING to scarfice everything, yes we or I will speak for myself, I like Roopie and I like also that he is indian, I dont put water in my mouth, but first and foremost, he willing to play for our country, he came here and asked for a trial and got one, he did not make de side and I know a few things I cannot say, so leave it as that.

I hope he plays for North East Stars and move on to bigger things, because I like de youthman, he have talent, maybe he not ready yet for T&T level, but I hope he make a great comeback when ever he gets the chance again, I appreicate NE Stars for giving him a chance, Kevin and Brent Sancho deserve a big up for that.

People like Roopie who wants to play for T&T should be incourgae not damed !!!!!


       Well said  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Deeks on February 02, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
When you say you hope Angus gets it right what do you mean,Roopie should make the national team?i would like to see NE Stars select him that will tell me if he has the ability to play on the national team,all those guys on the U23 playing in the Pro league. 

Angus is in a position where most coaches would like to be in. Quite a few potential talents to choose from. I just hope he picks the right team for the tournament coming up, with or without Roopie. It is a pity we don't have a couple more international friendly where we can really see how he handles himself. If he is determined to play for Trini, then all I can say is perseverence. There is CFU, GC, CAC, PAnAM and WC. If he with NE, then I think he stands a chance because Angus would be able to see him live, rather than tape.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Star Child on February 02, 2012, 08:05:16 PM
I'm hearing that they were offered $200 as their match fee for Finland. The players get vex and refused to train Tues and Weds.

Also, these regular training sessions are not respectful of Pro League clubs. Not sure of all teams agendas but North East played Tuesday, Reserves today (Thurs), St Anns Friday, FA Trophy Sunday, Army Tuesday, Reserve game weds or thurs, Jabloteh Friday. How the ass can we release 4 players and a member of staff? We have Jean-Luc, Drogba, Butters and Marchant. All playing in first team. You try to be patriotic, but you have prioritise your club.

We then have a two week break for carnival (thats madness!), so why doesn't Eve call a 10 day camp then? So, they miss one carnival for the chance of playing in USA and maybe London. Players in UK miss Christmas with their families every year. One 33 year old player told me that he hadn't had Christmas dinner with his family since he was 17.

Also, I've heard no indication of arrangements for the league while the squad is overseas. Will there be another 2 week break then?

Very interesting, the more things change the more they remain the same, that's why they get the big bucks.

As for Roopie, perseverence as Deeks pointed out.

Good luck to the T&T team and good luck Mr Roopie where ever you may end up playing we would love to see you make a name for yourself. We is a Trini, so I will support him dont mater what.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Debbie on February 03, 2012, 04:46:35 AM
Sorry to hear Mike did not make this team, nice story on the kid though.

I wish him all the best whereever he ends up.

We have to appreciate the ones who wants to represent T&T especially in such a hard time in T&T football.

But I also respect the coaches decision.

Does anyone know if Khaleem Hyland, Jake Thomson, Daniel Cyrus, Quame Holder, Daniel Carr and Roberts Primus will be called in for this team ? I think coach Angus Eve needs to take this tournament very serious and use everything and everyone available to him.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 03, 2012, 06:09:33 AM
And Sando let me add to that list, nobody got more chances on the national team like Derek King under Bertille St Clair, Derek was literally Bertille step son even though he did not deserve a spot on the team.

I remember, about 2/3 years ago Angus Eve dissing the TTFF because how a past player have to pay to see T&T play, he wanted free tickets, now he sucking up.

With the TTFF you guys are just a number, remember that.

The under 23 team have to go to camps in Tobago, South America and North America before the Olympics.

Why not take the 22 you think will make the final cut plus the fringe players (like 11) just incase a regular member gets injured, at least the fringe player will fall right into the team and the transition will not be hard, they will have the experience and training to jump right into the team without a problem.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 03, 2012, 07:14:56 AM
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Ah thought it was Guerra?

Tallman,,,,,, Guerra have nothing close to Ronaldinho, who made that video did not do a good job.

Guerra is a decent midfielder but more like Patrick Vieira, not Ronaldinho.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: 41laromain on February 03, 2012, 07:36:04 AM
Yo Mike aka (Roopie) you are known, you as a youth man from NY you was always a cut above the rest, you are always with a soccer ball, always skilfull, many coaches had to tell their defenders to mark you tight and stay in your back pocket and somehow you still put that extra effort and came out the winner and here you get a link through FLEX to go for some tryout in TRINIDAD for the under 23 team.

Yo, much respect for that, I know you going to try to do your best because youthman not many kids does get a chance like that to go back to thier parents birth place and walk on the soil where your roots come from.

I know it go be a little rough for the first because you are meeting with guys who been on the squad already but I know you been in that kind of situation before so youth keep your head up and take all the knowledge you can get from these coaches and remember the sky the limit.

Yes there will be some who will critise but man you have to take the good with the bad you can only get better by learing from what you did wrong, so youthman keep your head high and make the best of the opportunity you get, hope this is a stepping stone for many kids like you foreign and local that hard work pays of in the end, you still have a long way to go but it is a step in the right direction, so dont give up youthman keep moving forward.

One love bless !!!

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: kicker on February 03, 2012, 08:21:16 AM
Yo Mike aka (Roopie) you are known, you as a youth man from NY you was always a cut above the rest, you are always with a soccer ball, always skilfull, many coaches had to tell their defenders to mark you tight and stay in your back pocket and somehow you still put that extra effort and came out the winner and here you get a link through FLEX to go for some tryout in TRINIDAD for the under 23 team.

Yo, much respect for that, I know you going to try to do your best because youthman not many kids does get a chance like that to go back to thier parents birth place and walk on the soil where your roots come from.

I know it go be a little rough for the first because you are meeting with guys who been on the squad already but I know you been in that kind of situation before so youth keep your head up and take all the knowledge you can get from these coaches and remember the sky the limit.

Yes there will be some who will critise but man you have to take the good with the bad you can only get better by learing from what you did wrong, so youthman keep your head high and make the best of the opportunity you get, hope this is a stepping stone for many kids like you foreign and local that hard work pays of in the end, you still have a long way to go but it is a step in the right direction, so dont give up youthman keep moving forward.

One love bless !!!



Good post
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Errol on February 04, 2012, 05:51:30 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Kariym Balthazar played alongside Roopie at one time ?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on February 04, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
If mike make the team he should wear coops old number lol .
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 04, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
If mike make the team he should wear coops old number lol.

Nah boy, number 13 is ah bad lucky number.   :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 07, 2012, 05:18:59 AM
You know what really dissppointing, I hear de coach tell Roopie he need more experience to be considered.

How de f00ck he will get experience if de coach not playing him in friendly games where de coach suppose to use as experiments with his team and tactics ?

Angus Eve concern about just winning to secure his job, thats all.

De team going back Tobago to play Guyana, why didn't they invite back Roopie and leave some of the regulars so they can see players in action at least this way they will know for sure who can make it and who cant ?

In Flex article, he said Roopie was invited back why now they change their minds. ?

Angus big and bad now, 3 months ago, de TTFF nearly cut he throat, now he big and bad.

Derek King yuh time coming too. De youth spend hundreds to come trial with T&T, why not give him a fair chance ?


Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: kicker on February 07, 2012, 08:32:47 AM
You know what really dissppointing, I hear de coach tell Roopie he need more experience to be considered.

How de f00ck he will get experience if de coach not playing him in friendly games where de coach suppose to use as experiments with his team and tactics ?

Angus Eve concern about just winning to secure his job, thats all.

De team going back Tobago to play Guyana, why didn't they invite back Roopie and leave some of the regulars so they can see players in action at least this way they will know for sure who can make it and who cant ?

In Flex article, he said Roopie was invited back why now they change their minds. ?

Angus big and bad now, 3 months ago, de TTFF nearly cut he throat, now he big and bad.

Derek King yuh time coming too. De youth spend hundreds to come trial with T&T, why not give him a fair chance ?




What if the guy is just not good enough and the coaches realized it from early on?  All we have seen is some lower division community college highlights of the fella. 

He has some individual skill, and he has a motivational story, but I dunno if the kinda grand speculation about the coach's motives, highly based on emotion, and on the basis of Roopie not getting a picked, is really that intelligent.  The team may very well be better off without Roopie... Lewwe just congratulate the fella on a good effort and wish him the best going forward - he is relatively young and still has a future in the game.  I'm sure there are lots of success stories out there that started out with a little bump in the road...
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on February 07, 2012, 09:13:07 AM
So if you claim he is not good enough and only played community college but is on the verge of signing for T&T Professional team North East Stars then what can I say. And how about one of the better players on the team (Sean De Silva) is still playing for a school team.

Did you even read FS report.

The guy have a hunger and as Sam pointed out he came all this way, why not give him a better trial and if he does not make it then case close. We cant argue here.

In anycase, I guess the coach was not impress with him, so who is me to question the coach. I would hate for them to call him up now after all this old talk and put him in a situation to fail to try and prove a point to us here, with T&T expect anything.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on February 07, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
So if you claim he is not good enough and only played community college but is on the verge of signing for T&T Professional team North East Stars then what can I say. And how about one of the better players on the team (Sean De Silva) is still playing for a school team.

Did you even read FS report.

The guy have a hunger and as Sam pointed out he came all this way, why not give him a better trial and if he does not make it then case close. We cant argue here.

In anycase, I guess the coach was not impress with him, so who is me to question the coach. I would hate for them to call him up now after all this old talk and put him in a situation to fail to try and prove a point to us here, with T&T expect anything.

To be fair, this is not the right time to introduce a rookie to the squad. The standard is much higher and faster than Roopie is used to. He has to get acclimatised. First he has to perform in North East Reserves (remember, these are often against teams fielding the likes of Willis Plaza and Richard Roy). Once he impresses, he will join the first team. Once he has a few Pro League games under his belt and his performances are good....thats when he could be included in the U23's. His vision should be more long term.....Senior National team and a move overseas.

If you rush him before he's ready, you can put back his career. Look at someone like Gareth Bale at Spurs. He was pants. The first 28 games he played in for Spurs were all defeats. Now look at him.

Roopie undoubtedly has talent, but so do 100's of other young players. What makes you stand out is stepping up a level and still performing. He's only 20, so theres no rush. Development is incremental. Remember, the point he has now reached on his destination is being reached by 15 and 16 years olds in England, Spain, France etc.

We all need to have a little patience!!

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on February 07, 2012, 09:37:13 AM
Football supporter you have a VALID point here. Time go tell.

From de little you see, do you think he is capable of playing for NE Stars though ?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: 41laromain on February 07, 2012, 10:02:35 AM
Yo, allyuh man not easy nah,, the youth just ask FLEX if he can get are link for ah tryout which he did get, appearantly the coaches did not see what they want to see.

The youth never see any type of Trinidad style of football, they just put the kid with the group of players who been togather for a while as a new man on the squad you cannot do the things that you did for your old team.

You have to listen to your coach and other players, he still have cold feet then the kid is from foreign it as a man said in are earlier page the coach says he needs more experence they should have give him a call just to practice with the team so he can get out his shell if he is practing with NE Stars that is good it look like somebody see a little talent in the youth and willing to give the youth a chance.

I hope he make the best of it they got some goods guys with that club, de youth need to just keep working hard and dont give up, the sky is the limit, devolop some more skills and one day you will be rewarded if your gold is to play for TNT youth,, go for it  kids..
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: truetrini on February 07, 2012, 10:17:44 AM
yoo all you man not easy nah the youth just ask FLEX if he can get are link for are try out which he did get if apprently the coaches did not see wat they want to see the youth never see any type of trinidad style of football  they just put the kid with the group of players who been togather for a while as a new man on the squad you cannot do the things that you can do for your old team you have to listen to your coach and others players you still have cold feet then to the kid is from forein it as are man said in are earlier page the coach says he needs more experence they should have give him are call just to practice with the team so he can get out his shell if he is practing with NE that is good it look like some body see are little talent in the youth and willing to give the youth are chance are hope he make the best of it they got some goods guys with that club youth just keep working hard dont give up the sky the limit devolop some more skills and one day you will be rewarded if your gold is to play for TNT youth go for it 

try punctuation and spacing nah....How de hell yuh want man to read dat?  steups....Yuh eh take yuh meds dis morning?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on February 07, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
Football supporter you have a VALID point here. Time go tell.

From de little you see, do you think he is capable of playing for NE Stars though ?



Yes, I think he has the potential. His ability got him this far, now its down to his determination. Make no mistake, although Roopie has Trini blood, this is no different for him than our boys playing overseas. Its a different vibe and like any player in a different country, its daunting. But he seems to have good mental strength and he'll make friends easily. I feel confident that he'll play in the ProLeague. Then its up to him to claim a red, white and black jersey.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on February 07, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
Yo, allyuh man not easy nah,, the youth just ask FLEX if he can get are link for ah tryout which he did get, appearantly the coaches did not see what they want to see.

The youth never see any type of Trinidad style of football, they just put the kid with the group of players who been togather for a while as a new man on the squad you cannot do the things that you did for your old team.

You have to listen to your coach and other players, he still have cold feet then the kid is from foreign it as a man said in are earlier page the coach says he needs more experence they should have give him a call just to practice with the team so he can get out his shell if he is practing with NE Stars that is good it look like somebody see a little talent in the youth and willing to give the youth a chance.

I hope he make the best of it they got some goods guys with that club, de youth need to just keep working hard and dont give up, the sky is the limit, devolop some more skills and one day you will be rewarded if your gold is to play for TNT youth,, go for it  kids..

LOL, well done mate, for adding the punctuation. As a new boy, you'll realise yuh get licks here! But don't take it personal, and keep posting!!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: kicker on February 07, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
So if you claim he is not good enough and only played community college but is on the verge of signing for T&T Professional team North East Stars then what can I say. And how about one of the better players on the team (Sean De Silva) is still playing for a school team.

Did you even read FS report.

The guy have a hunger and as Sam pointed out he came all this way, why not give him a better trial and if he does not make it then case close. We cant argue here.

In anycase, I guess the coach was not impress with him, so who is me to question the coach. I would hate for them to call him up now after all this old talk and put him in a situation to fail to try and prove a point to us here, with T&T expect anything.



First - why you always hadda be Sam mouthpiece? Second - I never claimed he wasn't good enough.  Third, I never claimed he wasn't good enough on the merits (or lack thereof) of his comm. college career...I just said what if he actually wasn't good enough...and that all we really have to base our opinions on (in addition to what we read), is a selective highlight reel from a level that is probably not that most competitive.

I doh understand why so many threads turn into bad talkin' somebody...This thread was supposed to be a positive story about a fella who got a break through the networking efforts of SW.net...Ok it didn't work out perfectly but it opened some doors and hopefully he makes the most of it...Why we cyar just leave it at that and wish the fella the best.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Errol on February 07, 2012, 06:55:47 PM
Glad to see the Pro league website have this story as well.

http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1109:the-trini-ronaldinho&catid=1:domestic-news&Itemid=80

Good going Skeene and company.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: amwood on February 08, 2012, 07:09:46 AM
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I don't think it has anything to do with race is why Mike is not getting picked, however,  it would surely be nice to add a little diversity to the team, it would generate more support and a better chance to get sponsors. Lets face it guys, there is a lot of rich business men in Trinidad who are indio-Trinis.

About the match fee, is that in TT or US?

Look how times have changed, today all the generation only cares about money first and then success, even regular players like this current under 23 team, imagine if they where real stars? No one cares how important it is to fly your T&T flag and the ones who will die to wear the Jersey is being ignored.

The match fee is in TT. Pride is a superb motivator, but it don't pay the rent. When was the last time you were asked to work additional days for free to promote your company, knowing full well that your boss was earning 10 times your salary, yet only gave you a pocketful of change for your troubles?

Football is a trade. While I don't believe players should be paid thousands, I do think they're worth more than TT$200. I don't know, but I wonder if TTFF administrators travelled over to Tobago and stayed in a 5 star hotel? Because they don't need to be there. The players do.

Agreed !!!!

And thanks for clearing this up. $200 TT is bad.

However, I believe, you need to prove yourself and money will follow and these young people in Trinidad today just wants to be rich over night for nothing, they have to understand they have to work hard and make sacrifices to be successful.

Yorke played for a pair of boots when he was a young player in Tobago, today he is rich becuase he worked hard and didn't think about being rich first.

This is a great opportunity for our young players, they could benefit greatly from play in the Olympic qualifiers in LA. You cant be "Penny wise, pound foolish".

Shelly I'm glad you think that Dwight played for just a pair of boots in Tobago, the fact of the matter is that all we talked about back in those days was girls and being rich, playing on the national team was abt becoming famous - short and simple. Now what i will say is that if ure playing on the national team to become rich then ure a lost cause........in those days we played because it was an opportunity to be seen by someone -  a scout, we played for the hopes of a better opportunity......the national team played Villa in the Oval once and I will tell you that I would have played for free. I'm not sure where some of u get this information from..... Dwight was always a money from day one u14 up.....
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: dinho on February 08, 2012, 07:27:18 AM
Lololol...

Is just to laugh yes.

All men on this site have is a youtube clip, a writeup, and the opinions of one or two persons max who see this youth train (and not yet stand out).

Yet they could tell you all why he didnt get pick. If is not because of his race, is ulterior motives, is the substandard coaches, is the other players small mind on the team, etc., etc., etc.

It is only right here on this site allyuh brought all this into it.

Like i said.

Is really just to laugh.
Title: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: footballer on November 24, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
What can we expect from this ?
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: asylumseeker on November 24, 2013, 10:02:41 AM
Expect? ... maybe, not a new thread. But, best of luck to him. At least this time, he knows where to go.
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: Coop's on November 24, 2013, 10:14:50 AM
What can we expect from this ?

      If he is back a lot can be expected,i think he should be much more matured as a player,the guys who were interested in him when they were with NE can add him to their Roster at Central since they still need players,under our new Coach every one is being looked at,so the timing and options good right now.My hope is that he will not have the problems he had the last time,eligibility,transfer,contract issues etc etc   
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: Football supporter on November 24, 2013, 12:07:30 PM
What can we expect from this ?

      If he is back a lot can be expected,i think he should be much more matured as a player,the guys who were interested in him when they were with NE can add him to their Roster at Central since they still need players,under our new Coach every one is being looked at,so the timing and options good right now.My hope is that he will not have the problems he had the last time,eligibility,transfer,contract issues etc etc   

Sounds simple eh? Who do we get rid of to make room? Winchester? Quintero? Marcano?  Roopie is trying out with Central, but the reality is that Fenwick will not just evaluate him on his ability, but also if his budget can justify his inclusion. Even if Roopie is better than the next man, the next man has a contract until May, so you can't just tell him to go away. I hope Roopie is all that we all hope for, but we have no room for luxury players, so he has to earn his keep!

He came to help out with today's youth trials and took a run with the U18's in preparation for joining the team tomorrow. As usual, he had some nice touches.
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: Coop's on November 24, 2013, 01:40:55 PM
What can we expect from this ?

      If he is back a lot can be expected,i think he should be much more matured as a player,the guys who were interested in him when they were with NE can add him to their Roster at Central since they still need players,under our new Coach every one is being looked at,so the timing and options good right now.My hope is that he will not have the problems he had the last time,eligibility,transfer,contract issues etc etc   

Sounds simple eh? Who do we get rid of to make room? Winchester? Quintero? Marcano?  Roopie is trying out with Central, but the reality is that Fenwick will not just evaluate him on his ability, but also if his budget can justify his inclusion. Even if Roopie is better than the next man, the next man has a contract until May, so you can't just tell him to go away. I hope Roopie is all that we all hope for, but we have no room for luxury players, so he has to earn his keep!

He came to help out with today's youth trials and took a run with the U18's in preparation for joining the team tomorrow. As usual, he had some nice touches.
     Breds i mentioned you all because of what went on the last time he was here,people put Skeene and Angus Eve under a lot of pressure for different reasons,i thought he would be good enough this time around to make a Pro team and play in the Pro league.

     Since you all have no room for him why don't you offer his services to another team that needs a player of his quality.
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: Tiresais on November 24, 2013, 03:37:41 PM
Is this guy good? Not heard much about him
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: Football supporter on November 24, 2013, 04:02:38 PM
What can we expect from this ?

      If he is back a lot can be expected,i think he should be much more matured as a player,the guys who were interested in him when they were with NE can add him to their Roster at Central since they still need players,under our new Coach every one is being looked at,so the timing and options good right now.My hope is that he will not have the problems he had the last time,eligibility,transfer,contract issues etc etc   

Sounds simple eh? Who do we get rid of to make room? Winchester? Quintero? Marcano?  Roopie is trying out with Central, but the reality is that Fenwick will not just evaluate him on his ability, but also if his budget can justify his inclusion. Even if Roopie is better than the next man, the next man has a contract until May, so you can't just tell him to go away. I hope Roopie is all that we all hope for, but we have no room for luxury players, so he has to earn his keep!

He came to help out with today's youth trials and took a run with the U18's in preparation for joining the team tomorrow. As usual, he had some nice touches.
     Breds i mentioned you all because of what went on the last time he was here,people put Skeene and Angus Eve under a lot of pressure for different reasons,i thought he would be good enough this time around to make a Pro team and play in the Pro league.

     Since you all have no room for him why don't you offer his services to another team that needs a player of his quality.

Coops, what I mean is that just because a player is ok, doesn't mean a team can sign him. Budgets are tight everywhere. Roopie can go wherever he chooses, we're not his agent! But he chose to try out with us first and I explained the situation. I think he will get a game in the ProLeague, but we'll have to see where he ends up. Hopefully it will be Central. He's a good lad.
Title: Re: Roopie is back in Trinidad ??
Post by: maxg on November 24, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
Don't think Coops quite grab the contract business, and honestly, I don't know much, as far as TT pro league either....do youhave short terms,monthly, yearly, by seasons...multiyear ?  10 days ? Please give a few examples
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on November 24, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Don't think Coops quite grab the contract business, and honestly, I don't know much, as far as TT pro league either....do youhave short terms,monthly, yearly, by seasons...multiyear ?  10 days ? Please give a few examples
    U are quite correct i don't quite grab the contract business i'm not quite versed in it.What i do know was the situation Roopie ended up in the last time he was here,NE wanted him to train/play with the club in the Pro League and they were told that he could not by Dexter Skeene for reasons having to do with i think Transfers,eligibility,contract etc etc from my knowledge FIFA have set guidelines pertaining to that.
    Some people think the guy is good enough because it was unfair when Eve did not give him an option to Tryout for the National Youth team or i think he tried out and did not make it,i'm glad Central is looking out for him.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: dreamer on November 24, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
Video of Roopie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2GmPzvBdE
Definitely a star to invest in. FS/Sancho and co. .... buy the guy! Borrow the money if yuh have to and pay for him. You have no choice!!
Now is the time to make your move and carry Central FC to the next level.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on November 24, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
Video of Roopie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2GmPzvBdE
Definitely a star to invest in. FS/Sancho and co. .... buy the guy! Borrow the money if yuh have to and pay for him. You have no choice!!
Now is the time to make your move and carry Central FC to the next level.
     Alyu still looking at that Video? the guy here and Central trains/play every day,they have Tryouts for the U18 team,i guess there are lots of options to look at the guy and make a decision one way or the other.Now always take into consideration that decision rests with Fenwick.I don't know about "Borrow the money" ???
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: dreamer on November 24, 2013, 10:00:50 PM
Roopie 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ4mel8fIMg
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: amwood on November 25, 2013, 12:05:55 AM
I hope the youth man catches a break...that said, in a more serious football environment, I'm not sure if more seasoned defenders would be that easily beaten on the pitch...hard to tell if he's just a player with an immature understanding of the game or if he's just that good. I suppose football supporter could share some more insight based on what he has seen...
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on November 25, 2013, 02:47:27 AM
Sadly a good youth career doesn't always transition over to a good adult one. What I saw in the 2013 one wasn't as impressive as the youth one - I hope he can adapt his game and kill the Pro League but he was having troubles there :(
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: trini_stallion on November 25, 2013, 04:28:08 AM
He look like one for the wings/midfield...notice on the video his last and only shot was a goal. Wish him all the best....as a soldier said...playing against a more professional team is a different beast. I cyah see men eating them fake and spanner and thing so...unless he's trulyy ah dan with de ball
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on November 25, 2013, 06:41:17 AM
So wether Roopie do good or bad, it doesn't matter because Central can't afford to sign him, so he wasting time then?

What is de purpose of de trial?

He should go to Rangers, them need help bad and he would guarantee a run if they sign him.

W Connection is a good place to go also, but them squad deep, Roopie might not be able to make that team.

Point might be another option but them might be broke to.

Apart from being broke, Central is a good option to, and they just won the First Citizens Cup first prize of $100,000, they could spend a few dollars to improve they depth so when players get call up by T&T at least it wouldn't hurt them so much.

They have to make de sacrifice if they want a better side and more trophies. A one year contract with a new  young player can't be much?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Controversial on November 25, 2013, 09:51:20 AM
So wether Roopie do good or bad, it doesn't matter because Central can't afford to sign him, so he wasting time then?

What is de purpose of de trial?

He should go to Rangers, them need help bad and he would guarantee a run if they sign him.

W Connection is a good place to go also, but them squad deep, Roopie might not be able to make that team.

Point might be another option but them might be broke to.

Apart from being broke, Central is a good option to, and they just won the First Citizens Cup first prize of $100,000, they could spend a few dollars to improve they depth so when players get call up by T&T at least it wouldn't hurt them so much.

They have to make de sacrifice if they want a better side and more trophies. A one year contract with a new  young player can't be much?



no offense to the guys back home in the pro league, but i have lost confidence in them a while back... roopchand should look for a mls team or try to get to europe, running in the pro league is a step back imo... the league and admin already disorganized... get to a scout or an agent in north america, europe and forget fighting up with people who backward thinking
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on November 25, 2013, 09:58:39 AM
So wether Roopie do good or bad, it doesn't matter because Central can't afford to sign him, so he wasting time then?

What is de purpose of de trial?

He should go to Rangers, them need help bad and he would guarantee a run if they sign him.

W Connection is a good place to go also, but them squad deep, Roopie might not be able to make that team.

Point might be another option but them might be broke to.

Apart from being broke, Central is a good option to, and they just won the First Citizens Cup first prize of $100,000, they could spend a few dollars to improve they depth so when players get call up by T&T at least it wouldn't hurt them so much.

They have to make de sacrifice if they want a better side and more trophies. A one year contract with a new  young player can't be much?



no offense to the guys back home in the pro league, but i have lost confidence in them a while back... roopchand should look for a mls team or try to get to europe, running in the pro league is a step back imo... the league and admin already disorganized... get to a scout or an agent in north america, europe and forget fighting up with people who backward thinking

Right, so he was born in USA, played his entire career in USA, yet these magic people are better than we? Get real bro....every single professional club in the world has a budget and has to make the same decisions.  You can't even spell the boy's name correctly, yet we backward  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on November 25, 2013, 10:01:06 AM
So wether Roopie do good or bad, it doesn't matter because Central can't afford to sign him, so he wasting time then?

What is de purpose of de trial?

He should go to Rangers, them need help bad and he would guarantee a run if they sign him.

W Connection is a good place to go also, but them squad deep, Roopie might not be able to make that team.

Point might be another option but them might be broke to.

Apart from being broke, Central is a good option to, and they just won the First Citizens Cup first prize of $100,000, they could spend a few dollars to improve they depth so when players get call up by T&T at least it wouldn't hurt them so much.

They have to make de sacrifice if they want a better side and more trophies. A one year contract with a new  young player can't be much?



Every club is trying to manage a budget. With respect to Roopie, thousands of players can look good in an edited video. We get dozens sent to us from all over the world. Roopie is a great guy, but Fenwick has to judge what he has, what he wants and what he can afford.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 25, 2013, 11:12:19 AM
His touches are silky.  I hope he catches on with a team because he has a certain amount of flair that will surely entertain.  He dribbles the way we like so I imagine he could realistically bring in a few more people to see the games.  He reminds me of Angus Eve when he was in Compre and playing in our minor league in Carenage, touches and beats fuh days!  If he does stick and somehow makes our national team in the future he would aid in bringing back the fans if he is indeed good enough to dribble that way against professional defenders.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on November 25, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
His touches are silky.  I hope he catches on with a team because he has a certain amount of flair that will surely entertain.  He dribbles the way we like so I imagine he could realistically bring in a few more people to see the games.  He reminds me of Angus Eve when he was in Compre and playing in our minor league in Carenage, touches and beats fuh days!  If he does stick and somehow makes our national team in the future he would aid in bringing back the fans if he is indeed good enough to dribble that way against professional defenders.

MS, Roopie is the first player I've seen in T&T that I think will gets bums off seats when he gets the ball. I really hope he comes through as I think he could be a crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: dreamer on November 25, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Now yuh talking FS. "CROWD PLEASER"
You yourself are at the forefront of trying to pull crowds  and develop an energized fan base with buzz
It's a no brainer that Central FC should take him. What more you want?
If you don't then another team like one of your rivals will and iz monkey smoke your pipe.
So do the right thing.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: palos on November 25, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
Fans having a say in who should be bought or not.

Interesting concept.

Even more interesting is the belief from these fans that Roopie is the real deal.

I have to admit, I like what I saw on the video clips without really taking into consideration the quality of the opposition, playing on an american football field with markings, etc.

Maurice Alibey used to tear up minor leagues back in de day.  Nobody could stay with him, beats like rain, powerful shot, good header etc.  But when he played international ball......less said about it the better.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on November 25, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
No one will take the clips as a sold deal, but he is worth a shot, you can't compare players Palos, some come through and some don't, its about giving him a chance and then make the judgement.

Who knows what the future holds, the kid can play, is he a big player, one day he may be or may not be.

I am very interested in seeing him play, I feel if Central can sign him even until the season is up he is worth a shot.

We need players who can play with his flair and hopefully Central FC can help develop his talent into something better, but Roopie have to grab the chance with both hands.

Kevin saw him many times live and is also impress by him, so forget the video.

The boy has talent.

FS, whats the latest?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: amwood on November 25, 2013, 07:08:27 PM
No one will take the clips as a sold deal, but he is worth a shot, you can't compare players Palos, some come through and some don't, its about giving him a chance and then make the judgement.

Who knows what the future holds, the kid can play, is he a big player, one day he may be or may not be.

I am very interested in seeing him play, I feel if Central can sign him even until the season is up he is worth a shot.

We need players who can play with his flair and hopefully Central FC can help develop his talent into something better, but Roopie have to grab the chance with both hands.

Kevin saw him many times live and is also impress by him, so forget the video.

The boy has talent.

FS, whats the latest?


Don't really believe that this is Fenwick's type of player....could be wrong?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: palos on November 25, 2013, 07:13:59 PM
True Sando.  We too small to pass up anybody.

At the end of the day, there are going to be players that coaches like and other they don't.  Central FC is not the only club in T&T so if they don't give him a shot, maybe someone else will. 

I guess we hadda determine what "a shot" is.  Is it to make the team?  To play a game?  To play regularly?

Like anything else....yuh often need a combination of luck, ability, discipline, luck, tenacity, and luck to make de grade.

Enough good players get a trial and either sick on the day, or simply have no clue how to prepare themselves for a trial.  Then they go, don't make a good impression and that opportunity gone.  Because you only have that ONE chance to make that first impression.

On the other hand, it have some teams that have no clue what it is they want.  They may overlook a diamond in the rough because the player didn't spannah somebody, or deemed to be too lightweight and not athletic enough.

Good luck to Roopie....and all others that harbor the dream of a professional football career.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Controversial on November 25, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
So wether Roopie do good or bad, it doesn't matter because Central can't afford to sign him, so he wasting time then?

What is de purpose of de trial?

He should go to Rangers, them need help bad and he would guarantee a run if they sign him.

W Connection is a good place to go also, but them squad deep, Roopie might not be able to make that team.

Point might be another option but them might be broke to.

Apart from being broke, Central is a good option to, and they just won the First Citizens Cup first prize of $100,000, they could spend a few dollars to improve they depth so when players get call up by T&T at least it wouldn't hurt them so much.

They have to make de sacrifice if they want a better side and more trophies. A one year contract with a new  young player can't be much?



no offense to the guys back home in the pro league, but i have lost confidence in them a while back... roopchand should look for a mls team or try to get to europe, running in the pro league is a step back imo... the league and admin already disorganized... get to a scout or an agent in north america, europe and forget fighting up with people who backward thinking

Right, so he was born in USA, played his entire career in USA, yet these magic people are better than we? Get real bro....every single professional club in the world has a budget and has to make the same decisions.  You can't even spell the boy's name correctly, yet we backward  :rotfl: :rotfl:

FS, I understand your passion for local football and your dedication but your post was just plain ignorant and out of place. Reason being, the comments I made to Sam was not directed at you or central but the pro league admin and heads that run the league, who I have dealt with before and who continue to fail on a yearly basis. Before you even came on the TT scene in terms of anything football, so please spare me the martyr bullshit because I've been around football a while.

whether you want to face it or not, the US system is better run and funded, and supported, those are facts, as well as the UK and europe. I agree the pro league has helped many players but the heads still falter and lack foresight... Up to now T&T does not have 5 reputable agents for football, which makes it even worse for players who need to be nurtured in a better system, nothing against Central FC and to be honest my comments to Sam was referring to the league and not your club, next time I will clarify myself better or better yet, maybe you should ask instead of jumping to asnine statements.

And for the record I don't know your budget and don't pretend to know or cast judgement, I hope you or another club does sign him and see how far he can be developed.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on November 25, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
So wether Roopie do good or bad, it doesn't matter because Central can't afford to sign him, so he wasting time then?

What is de purpose of de trial?

He should go to Rangers, them need help bad and he would guarantee a run if they sign him.

W Connection is a good place to go also, but them squad deep, Roopie might not be able to make that team.

Point might be another option but them might be broke to.

Apart from being broke, Central is a good option to, and they just won the First Citizens Cup first prize of $100,000, they could spend a few dollars to improve they depth so when players get call up by T&T at least it wouldn't hurt them so much.

They have to make de sacrifice if they want a better side and more trophies. A one year contract with a new  young player can't be much?



no offense to the guys back home in the pro league, but i have lost confidence in them a while back... roopchand should look for a mls team or try to get to europe, running in the pro league is a step back imo... the league and admin already disorganized... get to a scout or an agent in north america, europe and forget fighting up with people who backward thinking

Right, so he was born in USA, played his entire career in USA, yet these magic people are better than we? Get real bro....every single professional club in the world has a budget and has to make the same decisions.  You can't even spell the boy's name correctly, yet we backward  :rotfl: :rotfl:

FS, I understand your passion for local football and your dedication but your post was just plain ignorant and out of place. Reason being, the comments I made to Sam was not directed at you or central but the pro league admin and heads that run the league, who I have dealt with before and who continue to fail on a yearly basis. Before you even came on the TT scene in terms of anything football, so please spare me the martyr bullshit because I've been around football a while.

whether you want to face it or not, the US system is better run and funded, and supported, those are facts, as well as the UK and europe. I agree the pro league has helped many players but the heads still falter and lack foresight... Up to now T&T does not have 5 reputable agents for football, which makes it even worse for players who need to be nurtured in a better system, nothing against Central FC and to be honest my comments to Sam was referring to the league and not your club, next time I will clarify myself better or better yet, maybe you should ask instead of jumping to asnine statements.

And for the record I don't know your budget and don't pretend to know or cast judgement, I hope you or another club does sign him and see how far he can be developed.

Contro, yes, I did snap at your comments, perhaps unjustly, but my point remains: if Roopie is so obviously a potential superstar, then why hasn't the MLS scouts or agents picked him up? You seem to think that it's so obvious that a Pro League club should sign Roopie, yet no U.S. team has.
Yes, there are loads of improvements needed in T&T football, not least the fact that a principal at a school often has more sway that the entire ProLeague, but we are trying to improve things.
As for Roopie, I try to explain the situation from the clubs perspective. No matter how much everyone wants this to be a success story, the fact is that, like USA and UK, clubs have to look at the value a player can add. It's up to Roopie to perform to a level that ensures that he is signed. Maybe some coaches won't fancy him and the next coach will. But as mentioned before, Ian Wright had countless attempts before he finally got a Pro contract.
I never once implied that the U.S. system is not better run than the Pro League...that would be pretty dumb, so I'm not sure where you got that from...or the "martyr bullshit".
You did have the decency to say "no offence" and I realise you were not taking a shot at Central, but sadly for us, Central is part of the Pro League and we can only get better if the league gets better. Unfortunately, there are some clubs that still don't understand this. It's a case of "all for one and me for myself"
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: kiffysmooth on November 26, 2013, 07:34:00 AM
D yute have plenty plenty talent.  Very very promising player I must say!!! I am not part of d selection committee, but from what I see, maybe his lack of being able to utilize his right foot may be a turn off for most of our local coaches...  We all know that there are many great "dead" left foot players out here, but from the clips I saw, there were many scoring chances or "promising" chances that could have been created had he utilized his right foot.  Roopie, if yuh reading  dis my friend.... You are awesome to watch, but maybe spend some time in the off season working on swinging the right foot! You may land yourself a big big contract..
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on November 26, 2013, 05:01:55 PM
Where does Roopie play at this point in time?has he ever tried playing on any of the Pro/Semi Pro teams in the US?with the ability he has that might help clubs make a decision on weather they want him or not.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 26, 2013, 06:31:12 PM
This is an exciting player to watch. However against a pro-league opponent that free flowing creativity might disappear. If you can stay in T&T a Super League team might not be too bad an option. Some of these super league sides handing the pro-league their ass in a basket. Do well there and you could catch the eye of a pro-league coach or two.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Cocorite on November 26, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
Maybe Roop's strategy is to find a local team . . .catch the eye of the NT coach (SH) and get international exposure . . .Yuh Tink?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: davidephraim on November 27, 2013, 06:08:46 AM
First off, good work Flex on the article and in helping to pave a way for such a talented young player. Great find and I hope Eve and King continue to follow their good judgement and re-invite this player to the camps.

 On his seeming shortcomings...  I believe he woulda reach TnT and realise that though he is "normally" Superman on the field; he happened to be visiting Krypton itself and them youth man go need more than one and two fan/shake to get rid ah dem.

 Ask anybody who home and sweatin or been home and ketch one. Some ah dem youths runnin like ants! Having said that, I believe that a stint with N.E. (if he survive) could be a very good thing for him if he could adapt. Then  because of his trickery, positioning, energy and  ability to pass  79%-83% accurately, he should emerge from amongst his peers.   

To the youthman since he is a reader, protect yourself and learn fast. If yuh over-reach it will hurt. Krypton remember? Humility as yuh study cause as nice as yuh is, you will be the student but once yuh ketch de timin, it could be on for you.

Lastly, is a war not just one battle.  Sustain; so yuh could fight battles and then win the war!

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on December 04, 2013, 05:53:59 AM
How is Roopie trial coming along FS?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Jack Horner on December 06, 2013, 01:01:00 PM
Roopie have to be a mad man to want to join this fete side team they call Central who have a coach with a ego problem.

They can't organize they foot from they elbow.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on December 06, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
Roopie have to be a mad man to want to join this fete side team they call Central who have a coach with a ego problem.

They can't organize they foot from they elbow.

Better the team headed by a crook eh Horner? The 'ego problem' coach is one of the most successful in TT Pro history
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: MEP on December 06, 2013, 01:21:20 PM
Has he quit Slippery Rock University? He only played in 2 games this season.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 06, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
Roopie have to be a mad man to want to join this fete side team they call Central who have a coach with a ego problem.

They can't organize they foot from they elbow.



And a fete side that beat Joe Public 3-0. So what does that make them??
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Jack Horner on December 07, 2013, 05:58:47 AM
Roopie have to be a mad man to want to join this fete side team they call Central who have a coach with a ego problem.

They can't organize they foot from they elbow.



And a fete side that beat Joe Public 3-0. So what does that make them??

At least we do not carry the title PROFESSIONAL. We are Semi-Pro that sold all our players to Central.

Joe Public have many trophies little boy.

Central FC is a professional team that operates unprofessionally.

Imagine a pro team dont have an extra $10 dollars to pay for a buss pass but they trialing players, for what !!!!! is not like they could sign them.

 :rotfl: :rotfl:

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on December 07, 2013, 07:48:50 AM
I've become convinced that Jack Horner is a sock puppet or literally has psychological issues - he only pops up to insult people, what's his deal?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Flex on December 09, 2013, 05:05:30 PM
How is Roopie trial coming along FS?


Roopie had a family emergency and had to cut his trial short and return to the US.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 09, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
How is Roopie trial coming along FS?


Roopie had a family emergency and had to cut his trial short and return to the US.



I spoke to Terry Fenwick today concerning Roopie before we heard that he had left. Terry said that he had given Roopie a bit of time to settle in and liked what he saw, but told him that he needed to step up his game now to force his way in.
I can't say that Roopie would definitely have been offered a contract, but from what I saw, I'm sure he could have signed with another ProLeague club. He probably needs half a season here to reach his peak. He needs to get used to less time on the ball, more aggressive challenges and the combination of heavy surfaces and high temperature.

He's a good lad and I'm sorry that he had to rush back.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: palos on December 09, 2013, 07:37:39 PM
I spoke to Terry Fenwick today concerning Roopie before we heard that he had left. Terry said that he had given Roopie a bit of time to settle in and liked what he saw, but told him that he needed to step up his game now to force his way in.
I can't say that Roopie would definitely have been offered a contract, but from what I saw, I'm sure he could have signed with another ProLeague club. He probably needs half a season here to reach his peak. He needs to get used to less time on the ball, more aggressive challenges and the combination of heavy surfaces and high temperature.

He's a good lad and I'm sorry that he had to rush back.

Encouraging feedback for de yute.

Sound like one to keep an eye out for.  Hope de family emergency work out ok.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 10, 2013, 05:39:39 AM
I live close to Roopie and that is not what I heard.

The kid asked for a trial through Flex, got de ok from Central and when he went there no one made time to give him a decent trial, everybody was busy.

The Adrian Romain fella is a total idiot and Darren Mitchell too, who is very disrespectful.

Fenwick just not interested and did not communicate with the guy to tell him anything really, he didn't even give him a proper look, just had a brief talk with him and blow some smoke up he ass a little. And had him dangling there like a puppet like he have all the time in the world.

The thing what getting me vex is, de kid asked FIRST and then when he paid his way they just dump him on the side not even talking to him.

Sancho offer de man a ride after de Adidas game in PoS and then after de game disappear. They couldn't find him, he said that God for Marc Leslie.

This is totally unprofessional and I cant understand what Central would treat trailist like that because Sancho, Fenwick and Harrison all are from foreign or played there and should be a little more professional.

The kid told me, he didnot expect them to sign him if he wasn't good enough, just wanted a fair trial. Even in the drills, he was left out, how can you have someone on trial and not giving him a trial?

He took time off from school and spent his entire allowance to go to T&T only to be stood up.

Kevin then organise a trial for him with Rangers but didn't even tell him. De get get fed up and left T&T.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sando on December 10, 2013, 10:15:35 AM
I live close to Roopie and that is not what I heard.

The kid asked for a trial through Flex, got de ok from Central and when he went there no one made time to give him a decent trial, everybody was busy.

The Adrian Romain fella is a total idiot and Darren Mitchell too, who is very disrespectful.

Fenwick just not interested and did not communicate with the guy to tell him anything really, he didn't even give him a proper look, just had a brief talk with him and blow some smoke up he ass a little. And had him dangling there like a puppet like he have all the time in the world.

The thing what getting me vex is, de kid asked FIRST and then when he paid his way they just dump him on the side not even talking to him.

Sancho offer de man a ride after de Adidas game in PoS and then after de game disappear. They couldn't find him, he said that God for Marc Leslie.

This is totally unprofessional and I cant understand what Central would treat trailist like that because Sancho, Fenwick and Harrison all are from foreign or played there and should be a little more professional.

The kid told me, he didnot expect them to sign him if he wasn't good enough, just wanted a fair trial. Even in the drills, he was left out, how can you have someone on trial and not giving him a trial?

He took time off from school and spent his entire allowance to go to T&T only to be stood up.

Kevin then organise a trial for him with Rangers but didn't even tell him. De get get fed up and left T&T.



Totally depressing and disappointed.

Them guys in T&T like Romain get a little position and feel they could do and say what they want and treat people like animals. I remember him after Jabloteh folded like a beggar all over the place until Fenwick gave him a second chance, he was at Rangers hungry.

I expected more from Terry, I know he is a no nonsense person and though he would have given Roopie a fair chance.

Life funny in T&T, the one who dying to play not getting the break and the ones who wothless making it.

Central loss marks by me.

Who told Roopie to come for the trial, was it Flex call or Fenwick?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 10, 2013, 10:52:42 AM
Maybe if Rundell could get a look in by Hart ,just maybe Hart could take a look at roopie even if its for the junior teams .
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 10, 2013, 11:27:46 AM
Hey Roopie i have a great idea for you man ,check this out ! Hit me a pm let you know .
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on December 10, 2013, 11:28:26 AM
Sad to hear if true, kinda shattered the image for Central a bit!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 10, 2013, 11:42:03 AM
Apart from everything Sam say, I especially like the setting up of the trial with Rangers and not letting him know, won't even try to figure that one out :)
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 11:46:22 AM
Sad to hear if true, kinda shattered the image for Central a bit!

If you believe all that you read. I refuse to comment when people hear one side of a story and automatically accept it as gospel.
I've been around long enough now to earn a little respect and Sancho more so.
I'm just surprised that people automatically dismiss feedback from posters like Diamondtrim, who I've only met once, yet repeat feedback from someone who is emotionally involved and disappointed.
Still, that's life.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 11:55:52 AM
Apart from everything Sam say, I especially like the setting up of the trial with Rangers and not letting him know, won't even try to figure that one out :)

Unfortunately, Sam has been completely mislead and now, Fyzo, you're following. Nobody at Central F.C. has spoken to any club about Roopie. In fact, they probably don't even know he exists. All people are doing is spreading gossip which will do no more than damage Roopie's reputation in T&T football. If that's your intention, then carry on.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 10, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
The first half decent indian in over 40 years who could be a role model in Footie ,and he already halfway brown listed .FS you self say you would sign a retired 40 year old speng instead ,me personally would get Roops to work with speng to get even deadier since hes younger ,but hey.
Plus no other teams know of Roopie .. say what we could wait another 40 years.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: frico on December 10, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
lol Fenwick and they mustbe thought Roopie get tie up looking for the Red Force tryouts and wasting his time.
Thought Roopie woulda been the first indian to create a buzz within that segment in 35 years .But like Fenwick no different ,I think England is the same with brown ppl doh rank them as footballers,Fenwick mustbe thought then hes trying out as the new team doctor.
This might not be fair but what happen to Roops was not fair ,so hey alls fair .
 
You are totally right about how the English feel about Indians and football.While at school,in Inner London,many Indian boys had trials with clubs but none never made it.My school had a boy who was sure to make it,went to Liverpool but ended up as a no-body,not only him but visiting schools also had very good Indian boys,but the English don't really think highly of them,even if they are good.They make jokes and say they better stick to business,or become doctors.I sometimes go to club football and there are many good Asians,it will take the English another 20 years to accept Indians in football.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 10, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Apart from everything Sam say, I especially like the setting up of the trial with Rangers and not letting him know, won't even try to figure that one out :)

Unfortunately, Sam has been completely mislead and now, Fyzo, you're following. Nobody at Central F.C. has spoken to any club about Roopie. In fact, they probably don't even know he exists. All people are doing is spreading gossip which will do no more than damage Roopie's reputation in T&T football. If that's your intention, then carry on.
Bredda I just making an observation, I been on here tooooo long and know people too much to just dive in headlong when people say dis and/or dat one here :)

Matter of fact I was waiting to hear what you had to say and almost call you out in my post (but didn't want to get put in my place for so doing)...anyway, once you on here long enough yuh kinda get a feel for for info and it's deliverer ;)
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 10, 2013, 12:43:06 PM
Having said that, how all of ah sudden this going dong the race path????
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: diamondtrim on December 10, 2013, 12:43:25 PM
Sad to hear if true, kinda shattered the image for Central a bit!

If you believe all that you read. I refuse to comment when people hear one side of a story and automatically accept it as gospel.
I've been around long enough now to earn a little respect and Sancho more so.
I'm just surprised that people automatically dismiss feedback from posters like Diamondtrim, who I've only met once, yet repeat feedback from someone who is emotionally involved and disappointed.
Still, that's life.


Doesn't matter how many times we met FS....my feedback was honest...even though allyuh aint pick mih son...Philbert Jones @ WConnection saw him play and wants him...so take dat!!!!! Lol

I also know Adrian.....might be a little odd, but he isn't what I saw written about him previously.

Don't know the story either partially or in its entirety so I can't comment....



Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 10, 2013, 12:48:13 PM
Having said that, how all of ah sudden this going dong the race path????
lol because he the only one .And if he dont get a tryout there is no other on the horizon .Roops family emergency maybe was hurting his mom ,with this "pipe dream".Indians doh play football you see .
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 12:54:38 PM
The first half decent indian in over 40 years who could be a role model in Footie ,and he already halfway brown listed .FS you self say you would sign a retired 40 year old speng instead ,me personally would get Roops to work with speng to get even deadier since hes younger ,but hey.
Plus no other teams know of Roopie .. say what we could wait another 40 years.
lol Fenwick and they mustbe thought Roopie get tie up looking for the Red Force tryouts and wasting his time.
Thought Roopie woulda been the first indian to create a buzz within that segment in 35 years .But like Fenwick no different ,I think England is the same with brown ppl doh rank them as footballers,Fenwick mustbe thought then hes trying out as the new team doctor.
This might not be fair but what happen to Roops was not fair ,so hey alls fair .
 
You are totally right about how the English feel about Indians and football.While at school,in Inner London,many Indian boys had trials with clubs but none never made it.My school had a boy who was sure to make it,went to Liverpool but ended up as a no-body,not only him but visiting schools also had very good Indian boys,but the English don't really think highly of them,even if they are good.They make jokes and say they better stick to business,or become doctors.I sometimes go to club football and there are many good Asians,it will take the English another 20 years to accept Indians in football.


So, wait, you have no idea if Roopie is good enough, yet you now have decided that Fenwick, myself and every Englishman are racist against Asians? Wow!
But don't forget those Indian haters at North East Stars who didn't sign him two years ago (which is kinda weird as the owner is Indian) or Angus Eve, that well known anti Indian U23 coach and also the entire United States professional soccer fraternity who haven't jumped through any hoops to sign him either.

Between Frico and Qmire, I think we've uncovered an International racist brotherhood.

Or, maybe, Roopie just wasn't good enough and was a little upset? Nah, that's too farfetched, right?

 
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
Having said that, how all of ah sudden this going dong the race path????
lol because he the only one .And if he dont get a tryout there is no other on the horizon .Roops family emergency maybe was hurting his mom ,with this "pipe dream".Indians doh play football you see .

Now that's racism right there. I really hope Roopie doesn't read this heartless drivel. His brother is terminally ill.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 10, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
Trump on board,
Yeah and alyah make the man fly down for a fete match .
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Yeah and alyah make the man fly down for a fete match .

We didn't make anybody fly anywhere, yuh just talking shit. Ask somebody who knows the facts before you speak.
The boy came for a trial and it didn't work out. It happens all the time, everywhere.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: FF on December 10, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
de fack I seeing here... Everything in this thread is garbage.
What allyuh really think is a trial?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Thomo on December 10, 2013, 01:33:39 PM
This discussion has descended into the gutter and is now about mud slinging. Anyone who is new to this forum I'm sure would be utterly disgusted!!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Bakes on December 10, 2013, 01:35:16 PM
I live close to Roopie and that is not what I heard.

The kid asked for a trial through Flex, got de ok from Central and when he went there no one made time to give him a decent trial, everybody was busy.

The Adrian Romain fella is a total idiot and Darren Mitchell too, who is very disrespectful.

Fenwick just not interested and did not communicate with the guy to tell him anything really, he didn't even give him a proper look, just had a brief talk with him and blow some smoke up he ass a little. And had him dangling there like a puppet like he have all the time in the world.

The thing what getting me vex is, de kid asked FIRST and then when he paid his way they just dump him on the side not even talking to him.

Sancho offer de man a ride after de Adidas game in PoS and then after de game disappear. They couldn't find him, he said that God for Marc Leslie.

This is totally unprofessional and I cant understand what Central would treat trailist like that because Sancho, Fenwick and Harrison all are from foreign or played there and should be a little more professional.

The kid told me, he didnot expect them to sign him if he wasn't good enough, just wanted a fair trial. Even in the drills, he was left out, how can you have someone on trial and not giving him a trial?

He took time off from school and spent his entire allowance to go to T&T only to be stood up.

Kevin then organise a trial for him with Rangers but didn't even tell him. De get get fed up and left T&T.

Sam I think you need to let this fella come and speak for himself instead of hearing everything second-hand and accepting it as gospel truth.  For example, do you know for fact that Sancho offer the man a ride and den leave him high and dry?  I understand we on old talk here sometimes, but some of that crossing into mauvais langue business.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Jack Horner on December 10, 2013, 02:34:02 PM
So wait, Roopie get a trial with Central from Kevin, Terry or Flex, he drop school take his last shinling and jet off to Trinidad and when he reach there nobody trial him or even handled the kid?

This is the utter most disrespect by Central FC.

I warned the kid, I warned him.

We never treat players like this at Joe Public. We even give players on trial a place to stay. I remember when Hoshide came for the first time for a trial Flex organized, I personally picked him up in the airport.

Sancho and company cannot run anything.

I went to the Adidas Brazuca in Ariapita Avenue and it was suppose to kick off at 2pm, I waited over a hour and still nothing so I left only to find out the next game it started after 4pm.



Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Flex on December 10, 2013, 03:16:35 PM
Without going into to much details the trial did not go as we expected.

Central had been busy with important games coming up and Terry had to focus on getting his team ready, hence the reason Roopie was not seen much off.

Roopie was a bit disappointed by that's how it goes sometimes.

Kevin Harrison has been very supportive and tried his best to make Roopie feel comfortable, he spoke to me about sending Roopie to Rangers and Jabloteh but Roopie had already left because he was a little disappointed.

Kevin came though and I am grateful for that.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 10, 2013, 03:53:32 PM
I'm confused..........school boy had an appointment for a trial...........go to trial on he own dime.........and people too busy..........somebody other than the school boy needs to take responsibility.........that's fogged up no matter how you look at it
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 03:58:12 PM
I'm confused..........school boy had an appointment for a trial...........go to trial on he own dime.........and people too busy..........somebody other than the school boy needs to take responsibility.........that's fogged up no matter how you look at it

yep, you're confused.

A 22 year old man asked for a trial. He was invited to train with the team. He didn't do bad and was told by the coach to step up a little now he had settled in, but chose to go home.

He did pay his own ticket, which is normal. He stayed with family, 5 minutes from the club office. Severe weather meant training was moved to Port of Spain. We arranged for him to get a lift with Jan-Michael.
Several sessions were dedicated to game preparation such as set pieces, transition etc so he didn't take part. He was invited to play in an exhibition game and traveled back with other guys.

From what I gather, he didn't like Darren Mitchell (?) or Adrian Romain. Then he left without talking to anybody or having the courtesy to tell anyone he was leaving, although I understand there was a family emergency which he had warned me about before he arrived.

Just a usual thing in football that happens everywhere, but everyone seems to look for reasons and excuses. And how racism can even be considered is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 10, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
Quags :shameonyou: :yellowcard:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 10, 2013, 04:01:53 PM
 :banginghead:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 10, 2013, 04:14:02 PM
If Kevin want me to delete my post I will do it out of respect for him.

But I have some questions.

1. Was Roopie accepted for a trial before he left the US and before he dropped everything and pay his way for the trial.

2. How many times did he get to train with the team in the two weeks he was there for.

3. Did the coach see him and spoke to him about what he wants and expects or told him his status wether he wants him or not.

4. Do you think he given a fair trial.

5. Did Adrian Romain argue with the man after his ride with Jan didn't happen and treated him like a little boy disrespecting him.

6. When a foreigner like Roopie (Toric Robinson) came down for his trial how was he treated the same way.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: FF on December 10, 2013, 04:35:17 PM
Sound to me like the trial actually went well... the coach tell him to step it up now. He never tell him ride out.

Usually when a man go on trial for a 2 weeks, if the coach seeing something but not sure he does ask him to stay on a couple more weeks.
That does happen all over.

What he want special treatment?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 10, 2013, 04:41:12 PM
I'm confused..........school boy had an appointment for a trial...........go to trial on he own dime.........and people too busy..........somebody other than the school boy needs to take responsibility.........that's fogged up no matter how you look at it

yep, you're confused.

A 22 year old man asked for a trial. He was invited to train with the team. He didn't do bad and was told by the coach to step up a little now he had settled in, but chose to go home.

He did pay his own ticket, which is normal. He stayed with family, 5 minutes from the club office. Severe weather meant training was moved to Port of Spain. We arranged for him to get a lift with Jan-Michael.
Several sessions were dedicated to game preparation such as set pieces, transition etc so he didn't take part. He was invited to play in an exhibition game and traveled back with other guys.

From what I gather, he didn't like Darren Mitchell (?) or Adrian Romain. Then he left without talking to anybody or having the courtesy to tell anyone he was leaving, although I understand there was a family emergency which he had warned me about before he arrived.

Just a usual thing in football that happens everywhere, but everyone seems to look for reasons and excuses. And how racism can even be considered is ridiculous.
be patient because I have no idea how a trial suppose to go on a professional level........I was thinking he would be training with the team and there would be a specific person to chaperone him during his time........who are DM and AR......are they team administrators?  I not touching the race thing because I does always put kakahoolery and socioeconomic elitism before racism in sweet T&T..........from the individual posts in this thread I am getting the impression that the kid not recruited and was treated as such.......an afterthought to satisfy a favor
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 04:58:48 PM
If Kevin want me to delete my post I will do it out of respect for him.

But I have some questions.

1. Was Roopie accepted for a trial before he left the US and before he dropped everything and pay his way for the trial. Yes

2. How many times did he get to train with the team in the two weeks he was there for. Probably no more than 3 times. I think he failed to get there a couple of times, some days were rained off and some were specific pre game sessions.

3. Did the coach see him and spoke to him about what he wants and expects or told him his status wether he wants him or not. I believe he did and also wanted to speak to him on Monday about what he wanted to see this week, but Roopie left.

4. Do you think he given a fair trial. In a perfect world, Roopie would have come in pre season. He certainly didn't get the chance to show his best and it's a shame that he left when he did.

5. Did Adrian Romain argue with the man after his ride with Jan didn't happen and treated him like a little boy disrespecting him. I have no idea because I wasn't there. However, it is entirely possible, especially since a senior player, who deserves respect, is willing to drive out of his way to give you a lift, then you cancel it and then you decide at 9 p.m. that you want a ride again at 6 a.m. next morning.

6. When a foreigner like Roopie (Toric Robinson) came down for his trial how was he treated the same way. Yes, Toric, and anybody else is treated the same way. Although sometimes we provide housing which makes it easier for the player to travel with other guys. In fact I went out of my way where possible to help Roopie. However, we do not usually invite foreigners on trial because logistically it is very difficult. We had another Jamaican on trial and his agent refused to give him his return ticket and we had to house him for 10 days.


Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 10, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
If Kevin want me to delete my post I will do it out of respect for him.

But I have some questions.

1. Was Roopie accepted for a trial before he left the US and before he dropped everything and pay his way for the trial. Yes

2. How many times did he get to train with the team in the two weeks he was there for. Probably no more than 3 times. I think he failed to get there a couple of times, some days were rained off and some were specific pre game sessions.
So out of 3 times he miss a couple, so he was saw once?

3. Did the coach see him and spoke to him about what he wants and expects or told him his status wether he wants him or not. I believe he did and also wanted to speak to him on Monday about what he wanted to see this week, but Roopie left.
And why you think he left, because no one was communicating with him.

4. Do you think he given a fair trial. In a perfect world, Roopie would have come in pre season. He certainly didn't get the chance to show his best and it's a shame that he left when he did.
So why din't you tell him in the first place to come in preseason?

5. Did Adrian Romain argue with the man after his ride with Jan didn't happen and treated him like a little boy disrespecting him. I have no idea because I wasn't there. However, it is entirely possible, especially since a senior player, who deserves respect, is willing to drive out of his way to give you a lift, then you cancel it and then you decide at 9 p.m. that you want a ride again at 6 a.m. next morning.
Ok

6. When a foreigner like Roopie (Toric Robinson) came down for his trial how was he treated the same way. Yes, Toric, and anybody else is treated the same way. Although sometimes we provide housing which makes it easier for the player to travel with other guys. In fact I went out of my way where possible to help Roopie. However, we do not usually invite foreigners on trial because logistically it is very difficult. We had another Jamaican on trial and his agent refused to give him his return ticket and we had to house him for 10 days.
Talk done.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on December 10, 2013, 05:43:32 PM
I'm sure there's a heavy dose of miscommunication between parties - is often the cause of conflict.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Roopie17 on December 10, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
This is Roopie, after reading the comments, I want to give respect to the people who have been supporting me since day1, since I got denied from the u23's. Now a lot of people wonder why I still come back to Trinidad to play, opposed to staying in the USA, my response is up here in America you either have to of gone to a big D1 school and get seen from there, or have some really good connections.

I played for a small D2 school, and growing up my family never had the $ to send me to play for the better teams in NY. I went to a small high school and to a small juco. Both my parents were born in south. My brothers and sister were grown up as Trinidadians, although born in the states, I remember always watching World Cup 2006 and seeing Trinidad play, I was always a fan of my parents country. In saying that that's why I decided to go there and play, I have a better chance of being seen. I was always told about the politics there but I always wished people could just see all I want to do is make my parents and family happy. Yes I saved up my money from barbering (that's my hustle) from since August.

I contacted Flex in a last hope I could still make my dreams come true. I first want to thank Central FC for allowing me to come and be apart of their training, the head coach, Mr. Sancho, Mr. Harrison (I always call him Kevin) for giving me a try. I was told nothing was promised, but worth a shot, I wanted to come after 3rd of Jan, that way I could of spent my brothers 20th birthday (he has dushane muscular dystrophy, doctors said he wasn't to make it past 12) and the holidays with my family.

But was told the club are interested in other players so $ might be an issue. I don't like to depend on my family in T&T, I don't want to be a burden, so I dropped everything and went knowing what I did wrong when I came for the u23's. On trial I would sit by myself, nobody says good morning nobody small talks with me, every morning asking myself was I happy, but I knew that's how it would be.The truth is I know it would of been hard but once I got my chance I would change a lot of minds. I kept thinking to myself I was Jeremy Lynn from the Knicks. All in all I didn't feel I was involved how a trial should be, even shooting drills I wasn't called for, so I would just go to the side and do sprints, abs and push ups, while some of the players would just relax in the shade. I wanted to be in their position and it was as if they take it for granted. I did talk with the coach a day and he said he wanted to see more, see me play a match, see a final ball played into the box, and I knew I could do that without a doubt. But I started feeling less involved, going through the motions, my name wasn't being called.

I was invited to go to the adidas tournament on the avenue. I thought I played great, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqinLM89Ak is the link, it was a small field, not the best surface, (I am the kid with long hair) but I showed off some of my touches and skill, but no words went back to the coach on my touches I guess. I came down to Trinidad under the impression I would of got a word within 2 weeks, I only packed for 2 weeks, I wasn't hearing anything, tickets were going up, and I had to be back to take care of personal things. I never got a phone call on anything, it was as if I came for trials and was just sitting around, so I made my decision to come back.

I was in Texas when I heard the coach said he has time for me and would like to spend the next 10 days with me, I am upset I did leave but I thought to myself if I do make the team what if its the same thing with playing time, would I just sit around, go to training and not hear any feedback. At the end of the day I am a foreigner, I feel as if I was treated like I live there, as if I could just wait around.  I did ask however, if they  would buy a ticket for me to come back for a proper trial, but was told they don't have the $. I was also told there are 4 top players on trial they're considering, I just don't know why I wasn't told a straight up no, instead of buying the ticket. I don't know what else I could of done to impress the coaches and team, with the little I was given I thought I made the most of it, also told they want more established players, but with alittle hard work and coaching I could of adapted and you never know. I would like to thank Jan Michaels, and Passion for being there for support and guidance.

I am back in the states and have trials for a USL team called Jersey Express, once again I would like to thank everybody who has been supporting me through my journeys and I have learned from every bit of my trips to T&T. Nothing in life is easy and I will fail many times before I will succeed. No I mighten be the best baller out there, or biggest and strongest, but I love the game and hopefully in the future I can say I made a name for myself. With no disrespect to Central FC, I just thought I would let everyone know. My email is Mikeroop17@yahoo.com feel free to contact me, Happy Holidays -Roopie

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 06:00:04 PM
This is Roopie, after reading the comments, I want to give respect to the people who have been supporting me since day1, since I got denied from the u23's. Now a lot of people wonder why I still come back to Trinidad to play, opposed to staying in the USA, my response is up here in America you either have to of gone to a big D1 school and get seen from there, or have some really good connections.

I played for a small D2 school, and growing up my family never had the $ to send me to play for the better teams in NY. I went to a small high school and to a small juco. Both my parents were born in south. My brothers and sister were grown up as Trinidadians, although born in the states, I remember always watching World Cup 2006 and seeing Trinidad play, I was always a fan of my parents country. In saying that that's why I decided to go there and play, I have a better chance of being seen. I was always told about the politics there but I always wished people could just see all I want to do is make my parents and family happy. Yes I saved up my money from barbering (that's my hustle) from since August.

I contacted Flex in a last hope I could still make my dreams come true. I first want to thank Central FC for allowing me to come and be apart of their training, the head coach, Mr. Sancho, Mr. Harrison (I always call him Kevin) for giving me a try. I was told nothing was promised, but worth a shot, I wanted to come after 3rd of Jan, that way I could of spent my brothers 20th birthday (he has dushane muscular dystrophy, doctors said he wasn't to make it past 12) and the holidays with my family.

But was told the club are interested in other players so $ might be an issue. I don't like to depend on my family in T&T, I don't want to be a burden, so I dropped everything and went knowing what I did wrong when I came for the u23's. On trial I would sit by myself, nobody says good morning nobody small talks with me, every morning asking myself was I happy, but I knew that's how it would be.The truth is I know it would of been hard but once I got my chance I would change a lot of minds. I kept thinking to myself I was Jeremy Lynn from the Knicks. All in all I didn't feel I was involved how a trial should be, even shooting drills I wasn't called for, so I would just go to the side and do sprints, abs and push ups, while some of the players would just relax in the shade. I wanted to be in their position and it was as if they take it for granted. I did talk with the coach a day and he said he wanted to see more, see me play a match, see a final ball played into the box, and I knew I could do that without a doubt. But I started feeling less involved, going through the motions, my name wasn't being called.

I was invited to go to the adidas tournament on the avenue. I thought I played great, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqinLM89Ak is the link, it was a small field, not the best surface, (I am the kid with long hair) but I showed off some of my touches and skill, but no words went back to the coach on my touches I guess. I came down to Trinidad under the impression I would of got a word within 2 weeks, I only packed for 2 weeks, I wasn't hearing anything, tickets were going up, and I had to be back to take care of personal things. I never got a phone call on anything, it was as if I came for trials and was just sitting around, so I made my decision to come back.

I was in Texas when I heard the coach said he has time for me and would like to spend the next 10 days with me, I am upset I did leave but I thought to myself if I do make the team what if its the same thing with playing time, would I just sit around, go to training and not hear any feedback. At the end of the day I am a foreigner, I feel as if I was treated like I live there, as if I could just wait around.  I did ask however, if they  would buy a ticket for me to come back for a proper trial, but was told they don't have the $. I was also told there are 4 top players on trial they're considering, I just don't know why I wasn't told a straight up no, instead of buying the ticket. I don't know what else I could of done to impress the coaches and team, with the little I was given I thought I made the most of it, also told they want more established players, but with alittle hard work and coaching I could of adapted and you never know. I would like to thank Jan Michaels, and Passion for being there for support and guidance.

I am back in the states and have trials for a USL team called Jersey Express, once again I would like to thank everybody who has been supporting me through my journeys and I have learned from every bit of my trips to T&T. Nothing in life is easy and I will fail many times before I will succeed. No I mighten be the best baller out there, or biggest and strongest, but I love the game and hopefully in the future I can say I made a name for myself. With no disrespect to Central FC, I just thought I would let everyone know. My email is Mikeroop17@yahoo.com feel free to contact me, Happy Holidays -Roopie



Thanks for your response, Mike. I know that Flex and I are sorry and frustrated that things didn't work out. Unfortunately, between the cup run and the weather the timing wasn't right, but we could not have known that before.

I have seen lots of guys on trial and they are always treated as outsiders. The better they are, the more they are shunned simply because they will replace someone or someones friend. That's why Jan was good with you.....let's face it, you'll never take his spot lol.

Everybody on this site really wanted you to succeed. It would have been a really personal achievement for everybody here. God knows, we need players with flair in the ProLeague. That's why everybody is so disappointed and speaking out of turn.

As I mentioned, I wish you had come into the office once or twice because at least you could have vented your frustrations!

I wish you luck with Jersey Express and the rest of your career. It's tough to breakthrough, and as you said, it's just as tough to break into the first team, but you have a good attitude and you're a nice guy, so I'm sure you'll get through.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on December 10, 2013, 06:03:53 PM
Really sorry to hear things didn't work out - really wish you all the best Roopie!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Bakes on December 10, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
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Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 10, 2013, 06:34:38 PM
Roopie, best with Jersey Express. Nonetheless, also consider getting an invite for the USL Combine. You'll be seen by all the clubs, rather than only one club. Even after the Combine, the clubs will hold separate club tryouts. That presents you with multiple opportunities.

You'll have to be prepared to invest in yourself, and to be ready for adversity ... and you've had some exposure to adversity already, so just trod on. Recognize there are no guarantees, just trod on positively.

Take a while to reflect on your experiences, and consider the items that you ought to tweak. Bubble forward from that.

Now, yuh might need to buy a ticket to Vietnam, but if that's what it takes ...bubble forward from that and get proper guidance as you forward. Ask questions too.

You mentioned disadvantages you have given your playing background and exposure, but if you flip that, you'll find you have advantages that can work in your favor. Identify them and step to the front of the line :beermug:.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 10, 2013, 07:11:36 PM
Guess I wasn't that confused..........there was a lack of professionalism in handling the youth..........should have just told him to save his resources for a genuine opportunity..........lesson learnt hopefully...........hope he continues to be ambitious not just with football but keep educational opportunities a priority as well.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Star Child on December 10, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
Central mess up the guy they should give him back his ticket money or at least half.

Good response by Roopie, agent jack and Asylumseeker.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
Guess I wasn't that confused..........there was a lack of professionalism in handling the youth..........should have just told him to save his resources for a genuine opportunity..........lesson learnt hopefully...........hope he continues to be ambitious not just with football but keep educational opportunities a priority as well.

In your opinion, what is a genuine opportunity? Is that when you tell a player who you have never seen play, that you'll give him a plane ticket, accommodation and a salary so he can sit in the stands and watch you play for 6 months?

I really don't understand, after all that Roopie himself has said, why you can't work out that life ain't a fairy story. He may even had made it onto the team. No one anywhere has said he wasn't good enough to sign, but the coach hadn't seen enough. Why is that so hard to understand?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 07:42:37 PM
Central mess up the guy they should give him back his ticket money or at least half.

Good response by Roopie, agent jack and Asylumseeker.

OK, so Central are the bad guys, no matter what you read here? No matter that he wasn't rejected? We didn't beg Roopie to come on trial, bro. I thought we were giving him a chance to achieve his dream. And if he had stayed, maybe he would have got that. Or maybe not. That's why it's a trial, and that's why clubs very, very rarely pay for players to come.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 10, 2013, 08:11:40 PM
if it was a genuine trial/opportunity:

1) should have been done when club stakeholders were available to evaluate his talent

2) he should not have been chaperoned by individuals whose jobs he was there to possibly take

3) actually practice and train with the team and not a fete match
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 10, 2013, 08:22:15 PM
if it was a genuine trial/opportunity:

1) should have been done when club stakeholders were available to evaluate his talent  It was

2) he should not have been chaperoned by individuals whose jobs he was there to possibly take He wasn't

3) actually practice and train with the team and not a fete match  He did


Again, are you not reading the man's own words?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Bakes on December 10, 2013, 08:23:35 PM
FS at this point you doing more harm than good.  It should be apparent to you by now that there are many here who live to criticize... never mind that they may not be armed with all the facts, or that they themselves couldn't prescribe a better solution that's also a realistic solution.  The situation wasn't ideal, it didn't work out, maybe the club can extend another trial at a time more conducive to both parties, or maybe this wasn't for the yute and he'll find the path intended for him all along.  This continued back and forth not really helping either way.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 10, 2013, 08:32:47 PM
This is Roopie, after reading the comments, I want to give respect to the people who have been supporting me since day1, since I got denied from the u23's. Now a lot of people wonder why I still come back to Trinidad to play, opposed to staying in the USA, my response is up here in America you either have to of gone to a big D1 school and get seen from there, or have some really good connections.

I played for a small D2 school, and growing up my family never had the $ to send me to play for the better teams in NY. I went to a small high school and to a small juco. Both my parents were born in south. My brothers and sister were grown up as Trinidadians, although born in the states, I remember always watching World Cup 2006 and seeing Trinidad play, I was always a fan of my parents country. In saying that that's why I decided to go there and play, I have a better chance of being seen. I was always told about the politics there but I always wished people could just see all I want to do is make my parents and family happy. Yes I saved up my money from barbering (that's my hustle) from since August.

I contacted Flex in a last hope I could still make my dreams come true. I first want to thank Central FC for allowing me to come and be apart of their training, the head coach, Mr. Sancho, Mr. Harrison (I always call him Kevin) for giving me a try. I was told nothing was promised, but worth a shot, I wanted to come after 3rd of Jan, that way I could of spent my brothers 20th birthday (he has dushane muscular dystrophy, doctors said he wasn't to make it past 12) and the holidays with my family.

But was told the club are interested in other players so $ might be an issue. I don't like to depend on my family in T&T, I don't want to be a burden, so I dropped everything and went knowing what I did wrong when I came for the u23's. On trial I would sit by myself, nobody says good morning nobody small talks with me, every morning asking myself was I happy, but I knew that's how it would be.The truth is I know it would of been hard but once I got my chance I would change a lot of minds. I kept thinking to myself I was Jeremy Lynn from the Knicks. All in all I didn't feel I was involved how a trial should be, even shooting drills I wasn't called for, so I would just go to the side and do sprints, abs and push ups, while some of the players would just relax in the shade. I wanted to be in their position and it was as if they take it for granted. I did talk with the coach a day and he said he wanted to see more, see me play a match, see a final ball played into the box, and I knew I could do that without a doubt. But I started feeling less involved, going through the motions, my name wasn't being called.

I was invited to go to the adidas tournament on the avenue. I thought I played great, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqinLM89Ak is the link, it was a small field, not the best surface, (I am the kid with long hair) but I showed off some of my touches and skill, but no words went back to the coach on my touches I guess. I came down to Trinidad under the impression I would of got a word within 2 weeks, I only packed for 2 weeks, I wasn't hearing anything, tickets were going up, and I had to be back to take care of personal things. I never got a phone call on anything, it was as if I came for trials and was just sitting around, so I made my decision to come back.

I was in Texas when I heard the coach said he has time for me and would like to spend the next 10 days with me, I am upset I did leave but I thought to myself if I do make the team what if its the same thing with playing time, would I just sit around, go to training and not hear any feedback. At the end of the day I am a foreigner, I feel as if I was treated like I live there, as if I could just wait around.  I did ask however, if they  would buy a ticket for me to come back for a proper trial, but was told they don't have the $. I was also told there are 4 top players on trial they're considering, I just don't know why I wasn't told a straight up no, instead of buying the ticket. I don't know what else I could of done to impress the coaches and team, with the little I was given I thought I made the most of it, also told they want more established players, but with alittle hard work and coaching I could of adapted and you never know. I would like to thank Jan Michaels, and Passion for being there for support and guidance.

I am back in the states and have trials for a USL team called Jersey Express, once again I would like to thank everybody who has been supporting me through my journeys and I have learned from every bit of my trips to T&T. Nothing in life is easy and I will fail many times before I will succeed. No I mighten be the best baller out there, or biggest and strongest, but I love the game and hopefully in the future I can say I made a name for myself. With no disrespect to Central FC, I just thought I would let everyone know. My email is Mikeroop17@yahoo.com feel free to contact me, Happy Holidays -Roopie



Roopie, wanted to just give you some words of encouragement based on this post as a young man who seems very ambitious and tenacious.  The latter piece will be key, don't let this experience let you down, as an earlier post says, fall 7 times stand up 8.  I will not lecture you how many success stories there have been who may have endured similar to what you have, sure you have some awareness.  Believe in yourself and your dreams and persist a never say die attitude. 

One last tid bit, a very good friend of mine graduated from business school with his MBA in 2009, at the peak of the global recession.  INspite of a star studded resume could not find any employment searching near and far.  Then he found a firm willing to accept his services on a voluntary basis w/o salary or even stipend.  He did this for 6 months and eventually got an offer.  Now he's a Vice President at the same firm.  Again, never say die, best of luck young man in your future endeavors...
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: congo on December 10, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
I think that if some of you all really like him so much then you can start a fund and pay for his next trial or trials. Especially the ones who claim that he can be a symbol for indians in football. I am dead serious too.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: soccerman on December 11, 2013, 12:52:30 AM
Roopie bro tough luck boss, unfotunately that's the nature of the business, not all trials will go as you expect. Like "seeker" said, you may want to look into registering for the combine if you can, it's usually in FL either in Jan or Feb. There you can be seen by multiple coaches and clubs. Seemed to me like FS did his best to help out but maybe the timing wasn't right given due to various circumstances don't let it keep you down though :beermug:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 11, 2013, 06:13:40 AM
Guess I wasn't that confused..........there was a lack of professionalism in handling the youth..........should have just told him to save his resources for a genuine opportunity..........lesson learnt hopefully...........hope he continues to be ambitious not just with football but keep educational opportunities a priority as well.

In your opinion, what is a genuine opportunity? Is that when you tell a player who you have never seen play, that you'll give him a plane ticket, accommodation and a salary so he can sit in the stands and watch you play for 6 months?

I really don't understand, after all that Roopie himself has said, why you can't work out that life ain't a fairy story. He may even had made it onto the team. No one anywhere has said he wasn't good enough to sign, but the coach hadn't seen enough. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stop it FS.

I thought you tried to sign him when you was with North East Stars. You saw him play already. !!!!

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=56360.msg792425#msg792425

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 11, 2013, 06:28:12 AM
Guess I wasn't that confused..........there was a lack of professionalism in handling the youth..........should have just told him to save his resources for a genuine opportunity..........lesson learnt hopefully...........hope he continues to be ambitious not just with football but keep educational opportunities a priority as well.

In your opinion, what is a genuine opportunity? Is that when you tell a player who you have never seen play, that you'll give him a plane ticket, accommodation and a salary so he can sit in the stands and watch you play for 6 months?

I really don't understand, after all that Roopie himself has said, why you can't work out that life ain't a fairy story. He may even had made it onto the team. No one anywhere has said he wasn't good enough to sign, but the coach hadn't seen enough. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stop it FS.

I thought you tried to sign him when you was with North East Stars. You saw him play already. !!!!

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=56360.msg792425#msg792425



SAm, I can't sign anyone. All I can do is recommend. As in any club, the coach makes the decisions because it's his job on the line. If we sign players, how can the coach be responsible for performance?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on December 11, 2013, 06:41:01 AM
Guess I wasn't that confused..........there was a lack of professionalism in handling the youth..........should have just told him to save his resources for a genuine opportunity..........lesson learnt hopefully...........hope he continues to be ambitious not just with football but keep educational opportunities a priority as well.

In your opinion, what is a genuine opportunity? Is that when you tell a player who you have never seen play, that you'll give him a plane ticket, accommodation and a salary so he can sit in the stands and watch you play for 6 months?

I really don't understand, after all that Roopie himself has said, why you can't work out that life ain't a fairy story. He may even had made it onto the team. No one anywhere has said he wasn't good enough to sign, but the coach hadn't seen enough. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stop it FS.

I thought you tried to sign him when you was with North East Stars. You saw him play already. !!!!

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=56360.msg792425#msg792425


      Alyu putting pressure on the wrong man wheather FS saw him play or not is irrelivant,Fenwick is the man at Central,this kid was rejected by T&T coaches the first time he came why come again?i was hoping to hear someone mention local Coaches,i don't understand what's the big issue here,our players go on all kind of trials and are rejected no one asks why,a trial is a trial nothing is guaranteed i do not wish this on any player but is a chance u are taking.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 11, 2013, 06:44:42 AM
Sorry, let me rephase that, I meant while you were at Stars they tried to sign him.

Bottom line, you saw him play already and you know what he is about. I am sure you could have whisper something in Terry's ears becuase if it was someone close to you you would have.

And I know in de end is Terry call.

My reply was just to remind you when you told Agent Jack Bauer that "In your opinion, what is a genuine opportunity? Is that when you tell a player who you have never seen play, that you'll give him a plane ticket, accommodation and a salary so he can sit in the stands and watch you play for 6 months?"

Anyhow, I still blame Central for messing up the kid, dont matter how you look at it.

YOu dont send someone ontop a tree to pick mango and while he up there you cut down de tree.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 11, 2013, 06:48:27 AM
Guess I wasn't that confused..........there was a lack of professionalism in handling the youth..........should have just told him to save his resources for a genuine opportunity..........lesson learnt hopefully...........hope he continues to be ambitious not just with football but keep educational opportunities a priority as well.

In your opinion, what is a genuine opportunity? Is that when you tell a player who you have never seen play, that you'll give him a plane ticket, accommodation and a salary so he can sit in the stands and watch you play for 6 months?

I really don't understand, after all that Roopie himself has said, why you can't work out that life ain't a fairy story. He may even had made it onto the team. No one anywhere has said he wasn't good enough to sign, but the coach hadn't seen enough. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stop it FS.

I thought you tried to sign him when you was with North East Stars. You saw him play already. !!!!

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=56360.msg792425#msg792425


      Alyu putting pressure on the wrong man weather FS saw him play or not is irrelivant,Fenwick is the man at Central,this kid was rejected by T&T coaches the first time he came why come again?i was hoping to hear someone mention local Coaches,i don't understand what's the big issue here,our players go on all kind of trials and are rejected no one asks why,a trial is a trial nothing is guaranteed i do not wish this on any player but is a chance u are taking.

Your head real hard.

Yes, he was rejected by Angus Eve and yea he should never come back. You was rejected by Jack Warner and Gally and you never came back, so everybody should follow you.

Secondly, the KID DID NOT GET A TRIAL he was set up to a point.

Fine, if he cant make de team, nobody saying he should get pick, read good before you run up yuh mouth.

Everybody thinking we want Central to sign Roopie or baby him... NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do things better because they know better and have bad experience too, this is why they should know better.

Not make the kid pay his way and dont look at him.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: FF on December 11, 2013, 06:58:29 AM
Good attitude. Keep going
Title: When trials go bad.
Post by: Jack Horner on December 11, 2013, 07:07:13 AM
I have played a major role with Joe Public in the past and have had some good and bad experiences with players being on trial. None could beat the latest one I have now heard off.

Today what I have experience is very hurting to me when a player from the USA called Roopie and how his trial with Central FC went bad has top it all off for me.

Roopie got a trial with Central FC from Kevin, Terry or Flex or who ever invited him, he dropped his school, took his last shinling and jetted off to Trinidad and when he reach there no one trial him or even handled the kid correctly.

I was very sadden that Central would set up a kid who basically had to fend for himself with no money, no where to stay and no one was gracious enough to take a minute to see the kid play or give him a fair trial instead they wasted the kids money and time and invited him to a Adidas Brazuca to pappieshow and make him feel they were actually doing someting. A game where you were allowed to play 15 minutes and no coaches watching you.

Does anyone here ever had any more bad experience?

+++message sent from my La Rivera Apartment in Westmoorings+++

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Football supporter on December 11, 2013, 07:08:17 AM
 :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on December 11, 2013, 07:11:04 AM
Sam what is it u so upset about?like Roopie is your family or something?let it go he did not make the team so what?the last time it was Skeene and them now it's Central it seems all these people blind and only u could see.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Sam on December 11, 2013, 07:15:18 AM
Sam what is it u so upset about?like Roopie is your family or something?let it go he did not make the team so what?the last time it was Skeene and them now it's Central it seems all these people blind and only u could see.

Yes ! yuh happy now and I vex they didn't sign him, he is Messi and he should walk onto any team, yea, yuh right, infact, I feel he should play for Real Madrid.

Allyuh real chupid we. Like I vex they didn't sign him, please.

Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: Football supporter on December 11, 2013, 07:25:13 AM
I have played a major role with Joe Public in the past and have had some good and bad experiences with players being on trial. None could beat the latest one I have now heard off.

Today what I have experience is very hurting to me when a player from the USA called Roopie and how his trial with Central FC went bad has top it all off for me.

Roopie got a trial with Central FC from Kevin, Terry or Flex or who ever invited him, he dropped his school, took his last shinling and jetted off to Trinidad and when he reach there no one trial him or even handled the kid correctly.

I was very sadden that Central would set up a kid who basically had to fend for himself with no money, no where to stay and no one was gracious enough to take a minute to see the kid play or give him a fair trial instead they wasted the kids money and time and invited him to a Adidas Brazuca to pappieshow and make him feel they were actually doing someting. A game where you were allowed to play 15 minutes and no coaches watching you.

Does anyone here ever had any more bad experience?

+++message sent from my La Rivera Apartment in Westmoorings+++



Horner, until you actually reveal your identity this is meaningless. For instance, it was I who discovered Messi in Argentina. I know that Flex discovered Ronaldo in Portugal and that Beckham was first spotted by Big Mag.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 11, 2013, 09:13:40 AM
It's really about disappointment to me since I have the perception of a certain level of professionalism at this organization and from what I am reading the kid did nothing wrong but it was the organization that gave little effort........hopefully he can now see the signs of when a girl don't want to give you a little bubble in a dance to look elsewhere.......BUT for the next kid who comes knocking at their door that organization should do better because I keep hearing we too small of a nation to be playing games with the rare amount talented football available to us........and you know what is refreshing and encouraging.........not reading anywhere that the kid has an attitude problem and wanted to go to Zen every other night........I think I still vex he didn't put soca d video he posted though  :yellowcard:
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: de_redman on December 11, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
I think if anything that Horner has identified here has any element of truth that it should be addressed... despite the fact that the source is Horner.
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: Tiresais on December 11, 2013, 09:35:44 AM
Why is it important he posted from West Moorings?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Tiresais on December 11, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
I'm disappointed he didn't get to shine, but there are 9 Pro League teams so it's a shame he couldn't get to visit any of the others
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: Football supporter on December 11, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
I think if anything that Horner has identified here has any element of truth that it should be addressed... despite the fact that the source is Horner.

How so?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 11, 2013, 10:09:19 AM
This was very unfortunate.  I hope it doesn't deter Roopie one bit.  He seems determined to make it and that will go a long way.  I myself don't know how trials work and what our players experience when they go foreign on trials.  I will say though that I would have liked for it to have went better.  All that off to the side push ups and so on serves no purpose in truly evaluating what a player can do on the field so I feel like that was time wasted.  I also feel as if despite doing a favor and extending the invite, Central should have realized that the timing was not conducive to a person in Roopie's situation especially because it was a favor of sorts.  This is not a fella who live there and have an unlimited amount of time to try and make it happen.  He already had personal concerns to tend to and made it known upfront so it should have been understood that time is essential.  Not getting any feeback during that time would certainly make most in that situation question whether it even makes sense to be there so I can't fault Roopie for that at all.

Coops yuh have a point that we don't fuss about what happens to our players when they go foreign, but we often have no insight into the experiences they have.  In this instance we have all been sitting in the theater watching it unfold so it isn't exactly comparable.  Add that Central up to this point has let us inside and seems to be a professional outfit in their direction and execution of all things football.  So undoubtedly it raises expectations within us even if it may be a bit of fantasy or simply illogical.  So don't take anyone's feelings on the issue out of context and treat it as if it is unnecessary or irrelevant.

Kevin thanks for the transparency.  We wish it wen't better but that is now history. Many of us here formed a bond with Roopie and really want to see him make it or at least have a fair chance at making it and the details suggest it wasn't what we hoped/ expected/ wanted for him.  Don't let it bother you too much.


Roopie, keep pluggin on bredrin.  Yuh have the fighting spirit and yuh have skills so I expect it to happen sooner or later.  Hopefully much sooner.  Keep us posted as for the most part we are all rooting for you!!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2013, 10:21:56 AM
Kevin taking the criticism of the trial to Heart .Even tho none was his fault .Since he dont run the trails .
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 11, 2013, 10:23:11 AM
Why is it important he posted from West Moorings?

... because he wasn't posting from his Hummer.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 11, 2013, 10:35:16 AM
Kevin taking the criticism of the trial to Heart .Even tho none was his fault .Since he dont run the trails .

As a yardman would say ... "then no must?"

Yes, agreed. FS is flinching a bit, but you took things down an inflammatory path. To come now appearing seemingly conciliatory, after baseless speculation and accusations, without even apologizing fuh yuh nonsense ... is ... to be kind ... also a lil problematic.


Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2013, 10:40:35 AM
Quags :shameonyou: :yellowcard:
you still trying to blow me ,go blow somebaddy else fellar .
You cant sneeze on this site anymore without 5 panty man giving you a tissue .So gay ...is it ok to say gay or is that politically incorrect .
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: de_redman on December 11, 2013, 10:42:51 AM
I think if anything that Horner has identified here has any element of truth that it should be addressed... despite the fact that the source is Horner.

How so?
Umm... the goodwill associated with the name Central FC?
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 11, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
I think if anything that Horner has identified here has any element of truth that it should be addressed... despite the fact that the source is Horner.

How so?

My view reflects a similar sentiment (although I know the Horner post was meant to be provocative and malicious). However, unlike de_redman, I'm not going to delve into whether Horner's post holds "any element of truth" (I done know de scene wid that) ... rather, I would like to focus on the question he raises: other experiences with trials and the trial environment. Ultimately, I think that could produce beneficial discussion for a lot of people. 

I doh want to only hear the bad ... lehwe also hear the good. Right now, there's a young man in Italy going through this nail-biting process. Several ppl on this forum know de trials runnings. Time to drop it.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 11, 2013, 10:52:36 AM
Quags :shameonyou: :yellowcard:
you still trying to blow me ,go blow somebaddy else fellar .
You cant sneeze on this site anymore without 5 panty man giving you a tissue .So gay ...is it ok to say gay or is that politically incorrect .

Yuh on gutter talk? Alright.

Yuh in a position to mention panty because yuh doh have the balls to say ... fellas, ah sorry ... ah put race in dis and ah shouldn't have? Defend yuh f**kery.

Fortunately, Roopie didn't acknowledge your ignorance. On top of that, check de profile of de men who giving the man support. Ah eagerly awaiting your response to congo's post! Iz clear you have better use fuh that tissue.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
blah blah blah ,you walking around with your staff nah moses .everything done done already .build a cyber time machine and I will go back take back what I said about the doctor ,which I delete but was quoted .
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: maxg on December 11, 2013, 11:08:31 AM
1st off, that ain't no bad experience, if anything, it could be a valuable lesson to everyone.
However, you tryin to turn it into some kinda propaganda bullshit, and negate the good things ppl trying to do, to help individuals in the short term, and the country in the long term.

Central FC, W Connection, etc are not no big World Clubs...no matter how professional they try to be..there is no comparasion as to funds generated through fan support alone, not counting Brand..so do not compare, what those professional clubs can do, and what  people whom trying to be professional cannot.

Lesson. They cannot, very few 2 be Div. clubs can, add players during season, once contracts are signed, and budget money going out and determined inflow money - usually substantially less than outflow - coming in. Thus the Roopie trial, god bless his soul, was a favour, a friend of a friend something...Unless the club had many injuries or Roopie was exceptional - read JS, KJ, KH, fed up ah cold, and want to return home to play for free - no way, any club could just up and sign him or any new player today, future consideration yes, but now for now, there must be consideration to pay all who they promised and the new guy, with the negative balance that is already forecasted.

Yes, they could have said don't come, wait till preseason, but it is obvious Roopies couldn't wait, didn't want to wait, as many of our young ppl today - even me in my time - had to have it now.. So he had a go.. I can tell you one thing about sports or entertainment, Timing is everything..there are amazing kids not playing pro Mls, nba,PFL etc..because of wrong timing - or right timing for some of the guys were are seeing, this does not discount the guys who are actually good enough to be there. However, there is a grey area in talent, where anybody can be selected, depending on luck, organization... I'm going on to long...i already feel you know the mechanisms..
I'm just trying to say mr.Horner, pong FS and Central...but no need to drag them or any TT club name in the mud, especially when they are trying to act professionally, because it will dirty everyone..them, you, me..TT
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 11, 2013, 11:08:58 AM
On this issue, I'm more interested in the future than in the past. On that ... maybe in the future, yuh will act with some sense. Guidance. Time to move on.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2013, 11:14:15 AM
We could live it hope.Nothing wrong in that.
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: Coop's on December 11, 2013, 11:26:55 AM
Well said MAXG  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: maxg on December 11, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
If,when, the mods merge this, shouldn't be a separate thread, and the talk continues, we can come with a plan of procedure, even for friend of friend socawarriors..things like arrange yuh own rides, with friends or family, or site members..best timing..eg. Connection may sell Jones, or starter had a few injuries, thus club may be able to afford a new player or have no choice but to take on a new player..friends get the S here 1st kinda thing..doh on the same note, We have to consider a local friend like diamond trim son or some other son as well..why not him? ...an eg why, sometimes not right to do friend thing in professional setting..business nothing personal..all of a sudden, yuh become a badman, as if that is only badman movie lines
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 11, 2013, 11:32:18 AM
 :beermug: maxg
Title: Re: When trials go bad.
Post by: Star Child on December 11, 2013, 11:35:34 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

This post is best !!

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Star Child on December 11, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
I notice that Coops is one of the most negative posters here. He never has anything good or constructive to say.

Obviously, the topic is about the fact the way the trial went and not a actually getting of a contract.

I wish both parties better luck next time.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Coop's on December 11, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
I notice that Coops is one of the most negative posters here. He never has anything good or constructive to say.

Obviously, the topic is about the fact the way the trial went and not a actually getting of a contract.

I wish both parties better luck next time.


        It have two big men fighting on here but i negative.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
Your head real hard.

Yes, he was rejected by Angus Eve and yea he should never come back. You was rejected by Jack Warner and Gally and you never came back, so everybody should follow you.

Secondly, the KID DID NOT GET A TRIAL he was set up to a point.

Fine, if he cant make de team, nobody saying he should get pick, read good before you run up yuh mouth.

Everybody thinking we want Central to sign Roopie or baby him... NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do things better because they know better and have bad experience too, this is why they should know better.

Not make the kid pay his way and dont look at him.



You on real shit.  Coop's is absolutely spot on.  To say that Central 'set him up' is to say that they deliberately planned for things to turn out the way they did.  Not even Roopie suggesting that... is almost like you more vex fuh de yute than he vex heself... and he should know better than anybody what went on.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: elan on December 11, 2013, 12:47:04 PM
These things happen all the time, it could have gone either way.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Errol on December 11, 2013, 02:56:50 PM
This was very unfortunate.  I hope it doesn't deter Roopie one bit.  He seems determined to make it and that will go a long way.  I myself don't know how trials work and what our players experience when they go foreign on trials.  I will say though that I would have liked for it to have went better.  All that off to the side push ups and so on serves no purpose in truly evaluating what a player can do on the field so I feel like that was time wasted.  I also feel as if despite doing a favor and extending the invite, Central should have realized that the timing was not conducive to a person in Roopie's situation especially because it was a favor of sorts.  This is not a fella who live there and have an unlimited amount of time to try and make it happen.  He already had personal concerns to tend to and made it known upfront so it should have been understood that time is essential.  Not getting any feeback during that time would certainly make most in that situation question whether it even makes sense to be there so I can't fault Roopie for that at all.

Coops yuh have a point that we don't fuss about what happens to our players when they go foreign, but we often have no insight into the experiences they have.  In this instance we have all been sitting in the theater watching it unfold so it isn't exactly comparable.  Add that Central up to this point has let us inside and seems to be a professional outfit in their direction and execution of all things football.  So undoubtedly it raises expectations within us even if it may be a bit of fantasy or simply illogical.  So don't take anyone's feelings on the issue out of context and treat it as if it is unnecessary or irrelevant.

Kevin thanks for the transparency.  We wish it wen't better but that is now history. Many of us here formed a bond with Roopie and really want to see him make it or at least have a fair chance at making it and the details suggest it wasn't what we hoped/ expected/ wanted for him.  Don't let it bother you too much.


Roopie, keep pluggin on bredrin.  Yuh have the fighting spirit and yuh have skills so I expect it to happen sooner or later.  Hopefully much sooner.  Keep us posted as for the most part we are all rooting for you!!

Nice.

Maybe Kevin thought Roopie was in T&T for 6 months so they didn't have to get back to him in a hurry.

I am officially dropping Central as my team.

It would be a hell of a thing if Roopie end up being a top player, I wonder if Central would then treat his trial the same. But he is not established at the current and treated him like nothing. Kevin, thanks for trying for the kid, but you should have tried to communicate with Fenwick and others about the situation.

The kid may not have been good enough to make a Central 11 but you didn't have to ignore the player after the fact that you accepted him to come on trial knowing that he was flying from the States and not just coming in from Port of Spain.

You don't make people waste their money like that, this is unethical.

Give him the trial, he failed, send him home, simple as that.

So Fenwick is coach, TD and scout, no one could have evaluated the player?

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 11, 2013, 04:49:34 PM
WAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!

Is all dis bacahnal still going here???

I eh go lie meh head spinning....we touching everything wid dis post, dong to political correctness :)

Roopie, if you're still reading, keep on trying bredda, you'll definitely make it soon!

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Jack Horner on December 11, 2013, 05:14:51 PM
(http://www.projectaware.org/sites/default/files/No%20Shark%20Fin_0.gif)

Someone deleted my post when trials go bad and did not have the decency to tell me, I guess Harrison went crying to the mods.

Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: frico on December 11, 2013, 05:36:33 PM
  Football
    supporter,
Not for one second was I suggesting that anybody in TTs football fraternity is a racist.I have played both cricket and football at club level but stopped after an operation to my knee.I was quite good at both,but many people thought I could have gone far in cricket,so I gave up football.If you have time,like one week I'll relate you stories at club level which you won't believe.I have seen boys picked purely because they are white but half as good as non whites,especially in cricket.The very first football training I attended,the manager said,you so an so,using the N word to describe me,because I was about 5 minutes late.That is tame in comparison to what is said about the Asians,in cricket it's more covert.I know of several boys who gave up because coaches favouritsm to some,there are about 6 boys now playing county cricket,some may even go on to play for England,I'm afraid I and many other boys were far better.I wasn't calling out any Trini,I was just talking about some English people and English coaches and their attitude to Indians and Pakistanis. 
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2013, 07:04:11 PM
Someone deleted my post when trials go bad and did not have the decency to tell me, I guess Harrison went crying to the mods.



Yuh mean this thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=56273.msg878735#msg878735)?  ::)

(http://sidrariaz90.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/keep-calm-and-dont-be-such-a-drama-queen.png)
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: ZANDOLIE on December 12, 2013, 12:30:28 AM
People act like Central FC is the only club in T&T that ever  make a mistake or hurt somebody feelings. When our players go off on trials and they don't make it allyuh quick to condemn them as shitty and lazy.

Now imagine man talking a pot of shyte 'bout how Jack Horner have a 'point'. Steups. Joe Public eh even fit to shine w Sancho and Co. boots.

Central FC remains the most community-minded and hardest working club in the country.

To FS and Central FC...there are always bumps in the road, keep up all the good work.

To Roopie....sorry things didn't work out. Keep the faith, you are an exciting player with a great love for the game and a strong drive to succeed. Hold strong and you will find your path.
Title: The reality of football trials
Post by: Football supporter on December 12, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
Hope this helps to correct a few misconceptions.

There are three kinds of trials, or try outs:

Open trials: Anyone can attend. Usually, any talented players are selected and then invited to train with the club on trial so the coach can see more of them. This usually happens early in pre season. Central signed Nicholas Dillon following an open trial.

Invited trials: A coach or scout may see a player, maybe at a college game or even a fete match and he will be invited on trial. Occasionally an agent or scout from overseas will recommend a player. In this instance, some research is carried out and then the club may pay his ticket and provide accommodation and even a small stipend.  John Terry was invited to a trial at Chelsea by Graham Rix

Requested trials: This is where a player approaches you for a trial. Again, some research is carried out. It is very unusual for a player in this instance to be offered a ticket or accommodation.
A player on trial is never guaranteed a contract. However, in some cases prospective salaries and benefits can be discussed so the player can decide if it’s worth his effort if he does get through.
It is not in the best interest of any club to waste a player’s time. (you never know, his younger brother could be the next Messi!!)

There is another situation where players believe they are being sent on loan, but actually find out that they are on trial. This nearly always ends in disaster because the player arrives with a confident attitude that soon turns into resentment that he has to face a trial and is not automatically accepted, and anger towards his club for misleading him.

I have never heard of a club advising a trialist to give up his job or home to come on trial. I have heard players told that they have a contract if they give up school and want to pursue football.  If I am asked should they give up school or their home, I would tell them to talk to their parents as I could not advise them.  I may advise them to tryout with a club near to them, finish their studies and try football after.
It is usual for a player to be told where and when training takes place and what to wear. It is unusual for a club to arrange transport. However, once a player attends training, he can usually hook up with someone to get a lift or the club may arrange a lift with a player.

Players are very rarely welcoming to trialists. The newcomer is trying to take your place, or your friends place, on the team. You or your friend may even be released if the new boy is good. (Clubs very rarely have spare budget available for new signings). During the first day or two it’s tough because you feel like an outsider. Players don’t pass you the ball, and if they do, the passes aren’t good. They tackle you harder  (check Ronaldo & Bale). The game is often faster and you get caught in possession. The players don’t know how you want the ball played and you don’t know what runs they will make. (you will often see a new boy play a nice chip over the defender  and see the striker 15 yards away because he makes diagonals. Alternatively, the new boy will play a nice diagonal, but the striker plays in straight lines. Either way, the pass looks terrible! Another common sight is seeing a trialist defending by kicking the ball into row Z while the coach gets vexed because he wants you to play out of defence. Alternatively, I used to see Sancho get bollocked  at Gillingham sessions because he did play out of defence while the coach was shouting “get rid of it, get rid of it!”)

Training times and venues are not written in stone. Weather conditions , fixtures and injuries mean that changes take place. A European guy requested a trial with an SPL club. He could afford to stay for a week. Training was cancelled for 3 days due to snow and the team had to travel away to a match. The European never even kicked a ball.  The responsibility to attend training is always on the trialist. That’s not to say that the club won’t help, but when you’re organizing 30 or 40 people, the trialist, sadly, is your last priority.

Staff in football aren’t always nice, just like in any other business. Football is a pressured environment and when the coach ain’t happy, the other staff and the players know it. I have dozens of horror stories surrounding coaches mis treatment of players, both in the UK and here.

The coach chooses his immediate staff. The club can criticize and force disciplinary measures, but effectively the coach is there to manage his staff and players. If he doesn’t and he’s winning, he stays. If he doesn’t and he’s losing, he may go earlier than if all is hunky dory. He knows that and acts accordingly.

Saying that, it is always worrying to hear reports of disrespectful behavior by your staff.

Trials are not easy, not by design, but purely because there is a lot going on. Being rejected is not always fair. It’s 1,000 times worse than being turned down by a girl and 100 times worse than failing a job interview.

Playing professional football is a dream and having a trial is exciting and nerve-wracking and not usually what you expect. It’s like your first day in a new school, but worse. Those that get through realize it’s a baptism of fire. Those that don’t are never happy.

Finally, Sancho knows how hard it is to be on trial, so has empathy for those who come to the club. But Sancho and I aren't often at the training ground...that's what we pay the coaches for! As for Terry, well Sancho played for him (and so did Kelvin Jack and Cyd Grey) and they will all say he's tough at times, but would recommend him.


This is an example of a requested trial discussion that has taken place:

Hey, Kev...

XXXXXX contact me yesterday and asked me to find out from you if he can get a trial with Central. If yes, when would be the best time.

Secondly, if for some reason he impress and you decide to give him a shot will he be housed?


Yes, he's welcome to come! And yes, if we sign him we have accommodation! He can come anytime. If Terry wants him, we may not be able to sign him until XXXXXXXXX.

Hello Mr. Harrison, everything is good, I am super interested in coming. Budget isn't my main focus, I just want to perform! I've matured since the last time there, and I know a lot more about pro league ball, my main and only  concern, is housing, as I don't want to be a burden for my family, but if that can be accommodated for, I'm all in, and if changes are being made in XXXXXXXXX I should go asap, but will have to consult with parents first, but we can go from here, thanks for the email.

Hows things mate? If you're interested in coming over, let me know dates. I can't remember, but was you here when we changed coaches?
I'll be honest, we have our budget all spent at the moment, but we do need to add to the squad so if you impress, we will try to find a way to bring you on board. There will be changes made in XXXXXXXX so now is a good time to come!

Kev



Hi XXXX

Have spoken to the coach. He's happy for you to come on trial for a few days. He won't mess you about, so if he thinks you won't fit in, he will let you know so you can try elsewhere. We cannot accommodate you during the trial, but I don't think we're far from your family as we usually train at Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva.
But if we bring you on board, we can look at accommodation as part of the package.
Hope that sounds ok?


Ok, I am confident I will make the side, would you be able to further explain the living situation? Or would that only be if after I make cuts? That's really the most important thing for me, I just wana know ahead of time, I really don't want to depend on my family. And also when is ideal to come down? Another question, I was on the website I was trying to find the schedule, but do we have any scrimmage games outside of Trinidad? Also is there a break around XXXXXXXX?

Hi mate
There would be no accommodation while you're on trial. However, should we sign you we can try to arrange something. Best time to come is in next few weeks. There are no games between XXXXXXX and XXXXXXX but there will be training. We don't have games outside of T&T.


Don't think there is too much misleading going on there. Simple, straight forward, no cast iron guarantees. It is what it is.
Title: Re: The reality of football trials
Post by: Jack Horner on December 12, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Thats the reality Central FC did not follow.

Roopie did not have an agent and was misled.

Simple protocol was not followed by a professional club.

For instance, didn't Roopie get the green light to come on trial before he left the States where ever he was from?

Title: Re: The reality of football trials
Post by: Football supporter on December 12, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
Thats the reality Central FC did not follow.

Roopie did not have an agent and was misled.

Simple protocol was not followed by a professional club.

For instance, didn't Roopie get the green light to come on trial before he left the States where ever he was from?



Did Uncle Jack poke out your eyes? Can't you read? Even when the boy wrote his own comments, you still choose to make up some other rubbish. Oh damn, yeah, I forgot, you believe Jack will rise again. Sorry, my bad.
Title: Re: The reality of football trials
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
This shit needs to be put to rest.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 12, 2013, 03:27:44 PM
Hope this helps to correct a few misconceptions.

There are three kinds of trials, or try outs:

Open trials: Anyone can attend. Usually, any talented players are selected and then invited to train with the club on trial so the coach can see more of them. This usually happens early in pre season. Central signed Nicholas Dillon following an open trial.

Invited trials: A coach or scout may see a player, maybe at a college game or even a fete match and he will be invited on trial. Occasionally an agent or scout from overseas will recommend a player. In this instance, some research is carried out and then the club may pay his ticket and provide accommodation and even a small stipend.  John Terry was invited to a trial at Chelsea by Graham Rix

Requested trials: This is where a player approaches you for a trial. Again, some research is carried out. It is very unusual for a player in this instance to be offered a ticket or accommodation.
A player on trial is never guaranteed a contract. However, in some cases prospective salaries and benefits can be discussed so the player can decide if it’s worth his effort if he does get through.
It is not in the best interest of any club to waste a player’s time. (you never know, his younger brother could be the next Messi!!)

There is another situation where players believe they are being sent on loan, but actually find out that they are on trial. This nearly always ends in disaster because the player arrives with a confident attitude that soon turns into resentment that he has to face a trial and is not automatically accepted, and anger towards his club for misleading him.

I have never heard of a club advising a trialist to give up his job or home to come on trial. I have heard players told that they have a contract if they give up school and want to pursue football.  If I am asked should they give up school or their home, I would tell them to talk to their parents as I could not advise them.  I may advise them to tryout with a club near to them, finish their studies and try football after.
It is usual for a player to be told where and when training takes place and what to wear. It is unusual for a club to arrange transport. However, once a player attends training, he can usually hook up with someone to get a lift or the club may arrange a lift with a player.

Players are very rarely welcoming to trialists. The newcomer is trying to take your place, or your friends place, on the team. You or your friend may even be released if the new boy is good. (Clubs very rarely have spare budget available for new signings). During the first day or two it’s tough because you feel like an outsider. Players don’t pass you the ball, and if they do, the passes aren’t good. They tackle you harder  (check Ronaldo & Bale). The game is often faster and you get caught in possession. The players don’t know how you want the ball played and you don’t know what runs they will make. (you will often see a new boy play a nice chip over the defender  and see the striker 15 yards away because he makes diagonals. Alternatively, the new boy will play a nice diagonal, but the striker plays in straight lines. Either way, the pass looks terrible! Another common sight is seeing a trialist defending by kicking the ball into row Z while the coach gets vexed because he wants you to play out of defence. Alternatively, I used to see Sancho get bollocked  at Gillingham sessions because he did play out of defence while the coach was shouting “get rid of it, get rid of it!”)

Training times and venues are not written in stone. Weather conditions , fixtures and injuries mean that changes take place. A European guy requested a trial with an SPL club. He could afford to stay for a week. Training was cancelled for 3 days due to snow and the team had to travel away to a match. The European never even kicked a ball.  The responsibility to attend training is always on the trialist. That’s not to say that the club won’t help, but when you’re organizing 30 or 40 people, the trialist, sadly, is your last priority.

Staff in football aren’t always nice, just like in any other business. Football is a pressured environment and when the coach ain’t happy, the other staff and the players know it. I have dozens of horror stories surrounding coaches mis treatment of players, both in the UK and here.

The coach chooses his immediate staff. The club can criticize and force disciplinary measures, but effectively the coach is there to manage his staff and players. If he doesn’t and he’s winning, he stays. If he doesn’t and he’s losing, he may go earlier than if all is hunky dory. He knows that and acts accordingly.

Saying that, it is always worrying to hear reports of disrespectful behavior by your staff.

Trials are not easy, not by design, but purely because there is a lot going on. Being rejected is not always fair. It’s 1,000 times worse than being turned down by a girl and 100 times worse than failing a job interview.

Playing professional football is a dream and having a trial is exciting and nerve-wracking and not usually what you expect. It’s like your first day in a new school, but worse. Those that get through realize it’s a baptism of fire. Those that don’t are never happy.

Finally, Sancho knows how hard it is to be on trial, so has empathy for those who come to the club. But Sancho and I aren't often at the training ground...that's what we pay the coaches for! As for Terry, well Sancho played for him (and so did Kelvin Jack and Cyd Grey) and they will all say he's tough at times, but would recommend him.


This is an example of a requested trial discussion that has taken place:

Hey, Kev...

XXXXXX contact me yesterday and asked me to find out from you if he can get a trial with Central. If yes, when would be the best time.

Secondly, if for some reason he impress and you decide to give him a shot will he be housed?


Yes, he's welcome to come! And yes, if we sign him we have accommodation! He can come anytime. If Terry wants him, we may not be able to sign him until XXXXXXXXX.

Hello Mr. Harrison, everything is good, I am super interested in coming. Budget isn't my main focus, I just want to perform! I've matured since the last time there, and I know a lot more about pro league ball, my main and only  concern, is housing, as I don't want to be a burden for my family, but if that can be accommodated for, I'm all in, and if changes are being made in XXXXXXXXX I should go asap, but will have to consult with parents first, but we can go from here, thanks for the email.

Hows things mate? If you're interested in coming over, let me know dates. I can't remember, but was you here when we changed coaches?
I'll be honest, we have our budget all spent at the moment, but we do need to add to the squad so if you impress, we will try to find a way to bring you on board. There will be changes made in XXXXXXXX so now is a good time to come!

Kev



Hi XXXX

Have spoken to the coach. He's happy for you to come on trial for a few days. He won't mess you about, so if he thinks you won't fit in, he will let you know so you can try elsewhere. We cannot accommodate you during the trial, but I don't think we're far from your family as we usually train at Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva.
But if we bring you on board, we can look at accommodation as part of the package.
Hope that sounds ok?


Ok, I am confident I will make the side, would you be able to further explain the living situation? Or would that only be if after I make cuts? That's really the most important thing for me, I just wana know ahead of time, I really don't want to depend on my family. And also when is ideal to come down? Another question, I was on the website I was trying to find the schedule, but do we have any scrimmage games outside of Trinidad? Also is there a break around XXXXXXXX?

Hi mate
There would be no accommodation while you're on trial. However, should we sign you we can try to arrange something. Best time to come is in next few weeks. There are no games between XXXXXXX and XXXXXXX but there will be training. We don't have games outside of T&T.


Don't think there is too much misleading going on there. Simple, straight forward, no cast iron guarantees. It is what it is.

Ok this clears up everything ,what happened to Roopie was textbook and normal.Good cause I was starting to wonder who was on trail you or Roopie .
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Agent Jack Bauer on December 12, 2013, 03:46:30 PM
So the trialist showed up outside of the dates he was told, when there were no games? 
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 12, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
This shit needs to be put to rest.

Ent!!!!

The man break it down, down to emails and all, but bet yuh bottom dollar men out dey dissecting everything and coming to prolong this damn thread!!!!
Like ah man say other things going on in football man, look Juventus eh even qualify for the knockout rounds in CL, geez, leh we done nah???
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 12, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
Ah cyah find no CL thread so...anybody see what Neymar do the Nigerian Ambrose from Celtic??

Ah only had to shake meh had and laugh, they show the replay about 99 times during the game, priceless!!!!
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Quags on December 12, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
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lol merry christmas.
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 21, 2015, 02:14:58 PM
Where is he now?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: Controversial on July 21, 2015, 02:24:37 PM
Where is he now?

running women probably...
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: pull stones on July 21, 2015, 04:00:53 PM
i thought guerra was the trini rondaldinho?
Title: Re: The Trini-Ronaldinho?
Post by: asylumseeker on July 21, 2015, 05:38:09 PM
i thought guerra was the trini rondaldinho?

Somehow or another, a player who barely ketch daylight is de Trini Ronaldinho. College highlights worked wonders.
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