Who is the world's best wing back?

[elan]

Cyd Gray and Avery John if you talking hardcore.

[palos]

Francisco Marinho

BIG PLAYER DAT!

One of the few good players Brazil had in 74.

[kicker]

Frankie Hejduk

 

[palos]

Tele Santana developed the prototype for the modern wing back with those two. They weren't the first to overlap, but they were the first who had skills of a midfielder. none of this push and run. Skills, shot and de overlap was attack as the most effective form of defense. It wasn't no overlap now and then.

Disagree that the prototype began with Branco and Josimar.

Tele Santana had Junior and Leandro in 82.

In 78 it had Toninho and Neliñho.  Neliñho score one a de greatest goals in a world cup HERE

In 74 Brazil had Francisco Marinho

In 70 of course dey had de incomparable Carlos Alberto with HIS magnificent strike HERE

All a dem had skills of a midfielder and it wasn't jes push and run.

[Ngozi]

Best combo for me would have to be Maldini and Jorginho ...... Jorginho was actually the best crossing wingback I've seen tho not the best defensive wingback but my my two fav wingbacks play on the same side the left side and that would be Maldini and Stuart "The animal" Pierce!

You jes spoil yuh post wit de Pearce reference.

Is like comparin Zidane and Theobald.   

Lol nah is just different attributes of players I does admire Pierce strike me as the kinda guy that yuh beating him to a frazzle and he cyah move and as long as he could lift a finger he'll come after you ....he remind me of the terminator he absolutely won't give up ....not the best skill but will hit you through a wall and has a  helluva a shot but he doesnt have the kind of technical ability Roberto Carlos and brehme and them have;

[Ngozi]

Tele Santana developed the prototype for the modern wing back with those two. They weren't the first to overlap, but they were the first who had skills of a midfielder. none of this push and run. Skills, shot and de overlap was attack as the most effective form of defense. It wasn't no overlap now and then.

Disagree that the prototype began with Branco and Josimar.

Tele Santana had Junior and Leandro in 82.

In 78 it had Toninho and Neliñho.  Neliñho score one a de greatest goals in a world cup HERE

In 74 Brazil had Francisco Marinho

In 70 of course dey had de incomparable Carlos Alberto with HIS magnificent strike HERE

All a dem had skills of a midfielder and it wasn't jes push and run.

Palos I've always said that the goal that nelinho score was the greatest goal I've ever my all time favorite I even put that in front of Diego mashup run

[Deeks]

Go way back. Djalma Santos and Nilton Santos

[Filho]

Tele Santana developed the prototype for the modern wing back with those two. They weren't the first to overlap, but they were the first who had skills of a midfielder. none of this push and run. Skills, shot and de overlap was attack as the most effective form of defense. It wasn't no overlap now and then.

Disagree that the prototype began with Branco and Josimar.

Tele Santana had Junior and Leandro in 82.

In 78 it had Toninho and Neliñho.  Neliñho score one a de greatest goals in a world cup HERE

In 74 Brazil had Francisco Marinho

In 70 of course dey had de incomparable Carlos Alberto with HIS magnificent strike HERE

All a dem had skills of a midfielder and it wasn't jes push and run.

nice post. never see de older men in full 90 minute games. just highlights. i knew Brazil always had wing backs who could attack, and Nelinho goal is sick and everyone has seen Carlos Alberto goal. It is iconic..probably the most famous world cup goal alongide Diego's 2 against England. But for some reason i was under the impression that Branco and Josimar took it to a different level. You see...most of the older teams you mentioned actually had wingers, so the right and left back didn't attack as much (at least that it what I thought). Even in 82, Eder was an old fashioned winger. BUt in 86 the out and out wingers were gone (altho Muller liked to pull wide he was essentially a center forward alongside Careca). I really think 86 was when Branco and Josimar run the whole line themselves with no support from out and out wingers.

[palos]

Palos I've always said that the goal that nelinho score was the greatest goal I've ever my all time favorite I even put that in front of Diego mashup run

I like de Neliñho goal mehself Ngozi.

But my all time favourite world cup goal is THIS

What make it so special for me is how he get himself in position to strike de ball.

Eder was exclusively left footed...even more so than Maradona.  He literally never shot or passed with his right foot.

With this goal, the dummy by Falcao was exquisite....Eder was coming in on the run at full speed.....BUT

That ball was tailor made to be hit with the right foot.  Eder cyah do anyting other than use his right foot for balance so how did he get himself in position?  Notice he chip de ball up to himself, take 3 quick steps....in mid stride...at full pelt...and unleash a perfect left footed volley.

Dasaev..one of the greatest goalies in the game never even saw it.  It just flew past him.  AMAZING!

[kicker]

Palos I've always said that the goal that nelinho score was the greatest goal I've ever my all time favorite I even put that in front of Diego mashup run

I like de Neliñho goal mehself Ngozi.

But my all time favourite world cup goal is THIS

What make it so special for me is how he get himself in position to strike de ball.

Eder was exclusively left footed...even more so than Maradona.  He literally never shot or passed with his right foot.

With this goal, the dummy by Falcao was exquisite....Eder was coming in on the run at full speed.....BUT

That ball was tailor made to be hit with the right foot.  Eder cyah do anyting other than use his right foot for balance so how did he get himself in position?  Notice he chip de ball up to himself, take 3 quick steps....in mid stride...at full pelt...and unleash a perfect left footed volley.

Dasaev..one of the greatest goalies in the game never even saw it.  It just flew past him.  AMAZING!

Easily one of the best goals ever scored.

[Ngozi]

Palos I've always said that the goal that nelinho score was the greatest goal I've ever my all time favorite I even put that in front of Diego mashup run

I like de Neliñho goal mehself Ngozi.

But my all time favourite world cup goal is THIS

What make it so special for me is how he get himself in position to strike de ball.

Eder was exclusively left footed...even more so than Maradona.  He literally never shot or passed with his right foot.

With this goal, the dummy by Falcao was exquisite....Eder was coming in on the run at full speed.....BUT

That ball was tailor made to be hit with the right foot.  Eder cyah do anyting other than use his right foot for balance so how did he get himself in position?  Notice he chip de ball up to himself, take 3 quick steps....in mid stride...at full pelt...and unleash a perfect left footed volley.

Dasaev..one of the greatest goalies in the game never even saw it.  It just flew past him.  AMAZING!

Saddist that goal was real bad he actually hit it with the outside of he foot but he angle it so well it swerve but but followed the straight path to the goal ....I actually remember when Zico scored a goal in that world cup I think it was against Scotland ....Yuh Boy Eder hit a free kick and it nearly break the cross bar ah swear ... and Zico just run in and tap it in......when men who thin like that could hit like that it says alot about their technique

[Filho]

Palos I've always said that the goal that nelinho score was the greatest goal I've ever my all time favorite I even put that in front of Diego mashup run

I like de Neliñho goal mehself Ngozi.

But my all time favourite world cup goal is THIS

What make it so special for me is how he get himself in position to strike de ball.

Eder was exclusively left footed...even more so than Maradona.  He literally never shot or passed with his right foot.

With this goal, the dummy by Falcao was exquisite....Eder was coming in on the run at full speed.....BUT

That ball was tailor made to be hit with the right foot.  Eder cyah do anyting other than use his right foot for balance so how did he get himself in position?  Notice he chip de ball up to himself, take 3 quick steps....in mid stride...at full pelt...and unleash a perfect left footed volley.

Dasaev..one of the greatest goalies in the game never even saw it.  It just flew past him.  AMAZING!

Saddist that goal was real bad he actually hit it with the outside of he foot but he angle it so well it swerve but but followed the straight path to the goal ....I actually remember when Zico scored a goal in that world cup I think it was against Scotland ....Yuh Boy Eder hit a free kick and it nearly break the cross bar ah swear ... and Zico just run in and tap it in......when men who thin like that could hit like that it says alot about their technique

It was against Argentina..which made it dat much sweeter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npfusAkl8KY&feature=related

[Ngozi]

lol venomous

[Deeks]

Three best goals by wing backs scoring on the run(no free kick) in no particular order. 1. Carlos Aberto-1970. 2. Nelhno -1978. 3. Josimar - 1982.

By the way anybody has a clip of Nelinho's goal??

[palos]

Three best goals by wing backs scoring on the run(no free kick) in no particular order. 1. Carlos Aberto-1970. 2. Nelhno -1978. 3. Josimar - 1982.

By the way anybody has a clip of Nelinho's goal??

In 78 it had Toninho and Neliñho.  Neliñho score one a de greatest goals in a world cup HERE


In 70 of course dey had de incomparable Carlos Alberto with HIS magnificent strike HERE

[boss]

In 70 of course dey had de incomparable Carlos Alberto with HIS magnificent strike HERE

Look the man himself talking about it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkR5Wb2KQs&NR=1

And all the goals from the match here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMe3uoUbhkA&feature=related

[dinho]

I shocked dat hardly anybody giving Roberto Carlos he pips when we talking about revolutionizing the wing back position.. lol

I would split my wing backs into best offensive and defensive ones because they are like two ways of playing the position within the position:

BEST OFFENSIVE (in no order):

Alves
Maicon
Clichy
Evra
Lahm
Zambrotta
Bosingwa
Capdevila
Salcido

BEST DEFENSIVE (in no order):

Ashley Cole
Heinze
Ramos
Abidal
Sagna
Zanetti
Maicon
Micah Richards


The best two for me right now are the two who make the best combination of offensive and defensive abilities:

Maicon and Evra..

All time from what I've seen I would have to say Maldini (hands down no question) and Cafu.

the romanian fellah petrescu wasn't bad in he day either.

[kicker]

I shocked dat hardly anybody giving Roberto Carlos he pips when we talking about revolutionizing the wing back position.. lol

I would split my wing backs into best offensive and defensive ones because they are like two ways of playing the position within the position:

BEST OFFENSIVE (in no order):

Alves
Maicon
Clichy
Evra
Lahm
Zambrotta
Bosingwa
Capdevila
Salcido

BEST DEFENSIVE (in no order):

Ashley Cole
Heinze
Ramos
Abidal
Sagna
Zanetti
Maicon
Micah Richards


The best two for me right now are the two who make the best combination of offensive and defensive abilities:

Maicon and Evra..

All time from what I've seen I would have to say Maldini (hands down no question) and Cafu.

the romanian fellah petrescu wasn't bad in he day either.

Good call on R.Carlos

I would throw Zanetti (and maybe Ramos) up in the offensive portion.

Micah Richards- Good potential- not ready yet to be included in this discussion.

[dinho]

I shocked dat hardly anybody giving Roberto Carlos he pips when we talking about revolutionizing the wing back position.. lol

I would split my wing backs into best offensive and defensive ones because they are like two ways of playing the position within the position:

BEST OFFENSIVE (in no order):

Alves
Maicon
Clichy
Evra
Lahm
Zambrotta
Bosingwa
Capdevila
Salcido

BEST DEFENSIVE (in no order):

Ashley Cole
Heinze
Ramos
Abidal
Sagna
Zanetti
Maicon
Micah Richards


The best two for me right now are the two who make the best combination of offensive and defensive abilities:

Maicon and Evra..

All time from what I've seen I would have to say Maldini (hands down no question) and Cafu.

the romanian fellah petrescu wasn't bad in he day either.

Good call on R.Carlos

I would throw Zanetti (and maybe Ramos) up in the offensive portion.

Micah Richards- Good potential- not ready yet to be included in this discussion.

At right back, nobody passing micah richards.. he's ah beast.. but i agree he have some way to go.

Ah next scene...

Essien so good that he could figure in this discussion FILLING IN at right back.. lol

[kicker]

At right back, nobody passing micah richards.. he's ah beast.. but i agree he have some way to go.

Ah next scene...

Essien so good that he could figure in this discussion FILLING IN at right back.. lol

Micah Richards- tremendous athlete- still alot of development needed upstairs.

Essien- total footballer.

C.Ronaldo exposed him a bit in the CL final though...

[Filho]

I shocked dat hardly anybody giving Roberto Carlos he pips when we talking about revolutionizing the wing back position.. lol

he deserve some pips for being (imo) the most athletic and best attacking of the wing backs in history. but I still stick by my assertion that Branco and Josimar rewrote the books. For all the two-way wing backs Brazil had before that, there were out and out wingers in those squads who still dominated the attacking portion of the wings and the wing backs offered plenty support. Branco and Josimar were not only the wing backs, but the were the out and out wingers themselves. They weren't supporting the true wide men like Rivelinho, Jairzinho, Eder etc. Dem men run de whole line solo.

[Giggsy's Chestwig]

Evra has nothing on Clichy in my opinion.

You shouldn't drink so early in the day...

[Storeboy]

AVERY JOHN AND CYD GREY

  That is my pick too!

[davidephraim]

Apparently no one has watched Bosingwa this season.

Apparently you think davidephraim is "no one"...

 David no hard feelings, but I did not read that far when I post.     

Sure, Sure.. Yuh tru feelings coming out.

Palos.. is meh inner feelings get hurt dey yuh know..

[Filho]

Lillian Thuram (first half of his career as a world class wing back) - just a little honorable mention

[Deeks]

Bert Grell. Left or right back. Offensive and defensive.

[palos]

Bert Grell. Left or right back. Offensive and defensive.

How much times he play for T&T?

[giggsy11]

Back in times-Cafu, Irwin, Junior, Paul Brietner, Thurman, Maldini- great defensively and offensively.

[dinho]

Back in times-Cafu, Irwin, Junior, Paul Brietner, Thurman, Maldini- great defensively and offensively.

steupssss

[palos]

Back in times-Cafu, Irwin, Junior, Paul Brietner, Thurman, Maldini- great defensively and offensively.

steupssss

LOL.....a man actually have de gall to call Irwin name yes...

Almost as bad as callin Junior name and defensively great in de same sentence.