Govt moves to evacuate 30 Trinis trapped in war-torn nation
Louis B Homer South Bureau
Wednesday, July 19th 2006
Some 30 Trinidadians of Lebanese descent, including the Lebanese Honorary Consul in Trinidad, Ameer Haidar, were yesterday trying to get out of war-torn Lebanon.
Haidar, 38, his wife Gina, 40, and their four children-Jessica, George, Peter and Jenifer-arrived in Lebanon on July 8, for a one-month holiday.
The Haidars were forced to cut short their vacation because of Israel's bombing of Lebanon over the past week to get at Hezbollah militants.
Haidar spoke yesterday to a relative in Trinidad, saying that the bombing had subsided and he was making arrangements to return to Trinidad.
Thousands of people from other countries were also fleeing Lebanon.
David Nahous, a friend of the Haidars, said there were other families who would like to return to Trinidad but he was not in a position to give details of their whereabouts in Lebanon.
Albert Hadeed, former honorary counsul for Syria in Trinidad, said he had made arrangements for another Trinidadian, Amal Mansoor, who was trying to get out of Lebanon.
Hadeed said: "I advised him to go to Syria right away because Syria has opened its borders to all those trying to get out of Lebanon."
Hadeed said from conversations he had with a brother living in Lebanon, he was told that the situation was "very bad".
He added: "Most of those people from Trinidad who had gone across heard of the problems and many of them got out of the country before the bombing escalated."
Other Trinidadians said to be trying to get out of Lebanon were Nina and Natasha Tommy who live in Beirut, Margo Aboud of Bayshore, Port of Spain, Claudette, Alfred and Donald Fakoury, also of Bayshore.
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said it had mobilised Trinidad's High Commissioner in London, Glenda Morean-Phillip, who was said to be in contact with Haidar's brother Jean in an attempt to co-ordinate efforts to locate and evacuate Trinidad and Tobago nationals who wanted to leave Lebanon.
The ministry said it was "aware of three nationals who wish to be evacuated and every attempt is being made to find other nationals who wish to leave".
Several countries including the United States have been evacuating their nationals from Lebanon.
Thousands have been moved through Cyprus since the Israeli attacks began.
Former national footballer David Nakhid, in a telephone interview with the Express from Lebanon, said that he had not yet heard about the ministry's efforts to evacuate citizens from the country but predicted that it would be done through the British Consul.
Nakhid reported that he and his family were currently living at their second home atop a mountain.
He said that though they were confined, they were trying to make the best of it.
He noted that most areas around his location had been hit by the random bombings.
"There's nowhere peaceful for the moment," he said.
On the prospect of returning to Trinidad, Nakhid said that like everyone else, he would like to go somewhere that had no bombing.
He expressed hope that in the next couple of days there would be a cease-fire or that the attacks of the Israelis would be repelled by the Lebanese army or Hezbollah fighters.
Govt moves to evacuate 30 Trinis trapped in war-torn nation
Louis B Homer South Bureau
Wednesday, July 19th 2006
Some 30 Trinidadians of Lebanese descent, including the Lebanese Honorary Consul in Trinidad, Ameer Haidar, were yesterday trying to get out of war-torn Lebanon.
Haidar, 38, his wife Gina, 40, and their four children-Jessica, George, Peter and Jenifer-arrived in Lebanon on July 8, for a one-month holiday.
The Haidars were forced to cut short their vacation because of Israel's bombing of Lebanon over the past week to get at Hezbollah militants.
Haidar spoke yesterday to a relative in Trinidad, saying that the bombing had subsided and he was making arrangements to return to Trinidad.
Thousands of people from other countries were also fleeing Lebanon.
David Nahous, a friend of the Haidars, said there were other families who would like to return to Trinidad but he was not in a position to give details of their whereabouts in Lebanon.
Albert Hadeed, former honorary counsul for Syria in Trinidad, said he had made arrangements for another Trinidadian, Amal Mansoor, who was trying to get out of Lebanon.
Hadeed said: "I advised him to go to Syria right away because Syria has opened its borders to all those trying to get out of Lebanon."
Hadeed said from conversations he had with a brother living in Lebanon, he was told that the situation was "very bad".
He added: "Most of those people from Trinidad who had gone across heard of the problems and many of them got out of the country before the bombing escalated."
Other Trinidadians said to be trying to get out of Lebanon were Nina and Natasha Tommy who live in Beirut, Margo Aboud of Bayshore, Port of Spain, Claudette, Alfred and Donald Fakoury, also of Bayshore.
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said it had mobilised Trinidad's High Commissioner in London, Glenda Morean-Phillip, who was said to be in contact with Haidar's brother Jean in an attempt to co-ordinate efforts to locate and evacuate Trinidad and Tobago nationals who wanted to leave Lebanon.
The ministry said it was "aware of three nationals who wish to be evacuated and every attempt is being made to find other nationals who wish to leave".
Several countries including the United States have been evacuating their nationals from Lebanon.
Thousands have been moved through Cyprus since the Israeli attacks began.
Former national footballer David Nakhid, in a telephone interview with the Express from Lebanon, said that he had not yet heard about the ministry's efforts to evacuate citizens from the country but predicted that it would be done through the British Consul.
Nakhid reported that he and his family were currently living at their second home atop a mountain.
He said that though they were confined, they were trying to make the best of it.
He noted that most areas around his location had been hit by the random bombings.
"There's nowhere peaceful for the moment," he said.
On the prospect of returning to Trinidad, Nakhid said that like everyone else, he would like to go somewhere that had no bombing.
He expressed hope that in the next couple of days there would be a cease-fire or that the attacks of the Israelis would be repelled by the Lebanese army or Hezbollah fighters.
oh oh.. :o.ah was waitin for somebody to toss a counter position
ok wait ...ah goin an get some popcorn...rebuttals could start in 2 minutes
I have two views on this, with no one more right than the other.
First you have the Israelis, or the "white Jews" as some call them. First off, they are not Israelis, as in the people in the bible. They are european people who practice the jewish religion, and were "given" a country by the brits and allieds after world war 2, in light of their presecution by the Nazis.
Because of this, you can kind of understand the arab views on them. They are not one of us, never tried to blend in or make friends. Just come in, and displace people who were living in the state of Israel (land anyway) for hundreds of years, all because they had the backing of the americans and brits, etc.
Then add to that the very aggressive and often violent Israeli reaction to every thing done to them. If you had neighbours, who for every inch, they take a yard, would you be able to live in peace with them? The Israelis are just as aggressive and warmongering as their enemies. Their access to advanced weaponry only add to the problem. It's like rocks and grenades versus fighter jets and guided missiles.
Now ask yourself this: if this were any other country, especially a non-first world country, who invaded and started bombing up their neighbours, wouldn't america and britain and NATO have already stepped by now and dealt with it? Makes one wonder. Because Iraq invaded Kuwait, america went to war. Yet the Israelis constantly bomb and invade and occupy their neighbours at will, and no one says boo.
Then on the other hand you have the Palestinians/Lebanese or active terrorist networks. Everybody talks about the suicide bombings and how bad they are to be waging this war on Israel.
Let me ask you this: if your country, or what has been your people's home for hundreds of years, is suddenly occupied by some foreigners, who then make you a second (or even third) class citizen in your own land, make it almost impossible for you to get a good paying job, and then displace you to where ever they feel, bomb you left and right for every protest or act of defiance, what would you do? Would you fight back?
How would you fight back? You don't have any great supply of money to buy weapons. There is an economic embargo on you and your people, because everyone it seems is supporting your occupier in their bid to rid you from the land. What are your options of resistance?
It is a very sad situation, created by the allieds who put europeans in a land that they had no rights too, and displaced a people who are from a culture where they never give up and will fight to the death.
Result? This is never going to stop. The war will rage on. And it will escalate, because the arab community will not stand for seeing their brethren victimized by Israel.
I cannot say one side is right. They are both victims, they are both committing unforgiveable violence because they believe they are right.
Lord help us.
question.
do you hate everyone that is white, everyone that is British, or only white British people?
question.
do you hate everyone that is white, everyone that is British, or only white British people?
There was nothing in her post that implied that she hated white people...where is that question coming from ?
I'm probably being over sensitive, but the reference to the fact that Israel was set up by Britain and other allies, why name Britain specifically.
Also, the Israelis known as White Jews, are they? is there a difference between white and "Non-White" jews? when I was there, it was hard to tell the difference between the jews, the Palestinians and the Beduins by simply looking at them (With obvious exceptions).
question.
do you hate everyone that is white, everyone that is British, or only white British people?
There was nothing in her post that implied that she hated white people...where is that question coming from ?
I'm probably being over sensitive, but the reference to the fact that Israel was set up by Britain and other allies, why name Britain specifically.
Also, the Israelis known as White Jews, are they? is there a difference between white and "Non-White" jews? when I was there, it was hard to tell the difference between the jews, the Palestinians and the Beduins by simply looking at them (With obvious exceptions).
That's not funny.
People dying for what? Because they living in the wrong place at the wrong time? Or because some boleface people want the land they happen to be on?
Life sucks sometimes. :-\
question.
do you hate everyone that is white, everyone that is British, or only white British people?
There was nothing in her post that implied that she hated white people...where is that question coming from ?
I'm probably being over sensitive, but the reference to the fact that Israel was set up by Britain and other allies, why name Britain specifically.
Also, the Israelis known as White Jews, are they? is there a difference between white and "Non-White" jews? when I was there, it was hard to tell the difference between the jews, the Palestinians and the Beduins by simply looking at them (With obvious exceptions).
Babes, you're being over sensitive. I do not have anything against white people in general, but rather the foreign policies and hypocrisy of the so-called first world. My grandmother and a few other relatives are white. So no, there's nothing personal there.
Further more, because of my upbringing, I have always been fascinated by the book of Revelations. As a result, I have been more than a little curious about things regarding Israel and the middle east. I gues I'm looking to see if any of the signs in the bible are happening.
Anyways, it is a historical fact that the push for the creation of the Israeli state in 1948 was done by the british, and british zionist in particular. The allied forces backed the move eventually.
So I am not singling out britain. Just relating some relevant history. I thought it was common knowledge.
Israel supposed to sit back and let terrorists[Hezbollah] , that's right TERRORISTS, just bomb them at will kidnap 2 soldiers and kill another 6 or so in an ambush on ISARAELI soil. Hezbollah operate in a civilian area in southern Lebanon which makes it difficult to get to them [they not dotish]. They hide their rockets and other weapons in peoples houses etc and use them as needed. The Lebanese govt is weak and unable to disarm them [a requirement of the United Nations]. Israel is bombing strategic targets like airports and roads to Syria etc to prevent more weapons from reaching the terrorists. They are also trying to use pinpoint stikrs withn southern lebanon. It is very unfortunate and sad that innocent people are dying but keep in ind Hezbollah are not trying to limit civilian casualties they are actively firing rockets into northern israel with the intention of trying to kill as many civilians as possible. Man give me a break somebody need to take a firm stance against terrorism and it's supporters! BTW there are also a large contingent of 'black' jews from Ethiopia that some call the 'Lost tribe' I think. I eh no historian.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
So Pompey, you are my neighbour and you have no control over your son and he want to come over in my house and disrespect me and my family and the police (UN) not doing a damn thing. What amI supposed to do?
there is no solution, jews and muslims will always fight, jews will always feel they have tuh rule their promised land, their true promised land 2 me is the US, not israel
So Pompey, you are my neighbour and you have no control over your son and he want to come over in my house and disrespect me and my family and the police (UN) not doing a damn thing. What amI supposed to do?
what you don't do, is bomb the whole damn street.
Tell me, how many UN resolutions are Israel in breach of at the moment? 70, 80?
Your conclusion however is that they deserve to be occupied. But they were until recently when the previous occupiers were forced out. Was a vacuum created for this current onslaught ???israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
So Pompey, you are my neighbour and you have no control over your son and he want to come over in my house and disrespect me and my family and the police (UN) not doing a damn thing. What amI supposed to do?
what you don't do, is bomb the whole damn street.
Tell me, how many UN resolutions are Israel in breach of at the moment? 70, 80?
Your conclusion however is that they deserve to be occupied. But they were until recently when the previous occupiers were forced out. Was a vacuum created for this current onslaught ???israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
So Pompey, you are my neighbour and you have no control over your son and he want to come over in my house and disrespect me and my family and the police (UN) not doing a damn thing. What amI supposed to do?
what you don't do, is bomb the whole damn street.
Tell me, how many UN resolutions are Israel in breach of at the moment? 70, 80?
So how should Israel react? Sit down and try and 'talk' to these terrorists? Get another useless UN resolution? Give them a prisoner exchange again so they can keep doing it since it seems to work?
I have two views on this, with no one more right than the other.
First you have the Israelis, or the "white Jews" as some call them. First off, they are not Israelis, as in the people in the bible. They are european people who practice the jewish religion, and were "given" a country by the brits and allieds after world war 2, in light of their presecution by the Nazis.
Because of this, you can kind of understand the arab views on them. They are not one of us, never tried to blend in or make friends. Just come in, and displace people who were living in the state of Israel (land anyway) for hundreds of years, all because they had the backing of the americans and brits, etc.
Then add to that the very aggressive and often violent Israeli reaction to every thing done to them. If you had neighbours, who for every inch, they take a yard, would you be able to live in peace with them? The Israelis are just as aggressive and warmongering as their enemies. Their access to advanced weaponry only add to the problem. It's like rocks and grenades versus fighter jets and guided missiles.
Now ask yourself this: if this were any other country, especially a non-first world country, who invaded and started bombing up their neighbours, wouldn't america and britain and NATO have already stepped by now and dealt with it? Makes one wonder. Because Iraq invaded Kuwait, america went to war. Yet the Israelis constantly bomb and invade and occupy their neighbours at will, and no one says boo.
Then on the other hand you have the Palestinians/Lebanese or active terrorist networks. Everybody talks about the suicide bombings and how bad they are to be waging this war on Israel.
Let me ask you this: if your country, or what has been your people's home for hundreds of years, is suddenly occupied by some foreigners, who then make you a second (or even third) class citizen in your own land, make it almost impossible for you to get a good paying job, and then displace you to where ever they feel, bomb you left and right for every protest or act of defiance, what would you do? Would you fight back?
How would you fight back? You don't have any great supply of money to buy weapons. There is an economic embargo on you and your people, because everyone it seems is supporting your occupier in their bid to rid you from the land. What are your options of resistance?
It is a very sad situation, created by the allieds who put europeans in a land that they had no rights too, and displaced a people who are from a culture where they never give up and will fight to the death.
Result? This is never going to stop. The war will rage on. And it will escalate, because the arab community will not stand for seeing their brethren victimized by Israel.
I cannot say one side is right. They are both victims, they are both committing unforgiveable violence because they believe they are right.
Lord help us.
So Pompey, you are my neighbour and you have no control over your son and he want to come over in my house and disrespect me and my family and the police (UN) not doing a damn thing. What amI supposed to do?
what you don't do, is bomb the whole damn street.
Tell me, how many UN resolutions are Israel in breach of at the moment? 70, 80?
So how should Israel react? Sit down and try and 'talk' to these terrorists? Get another useless UN resolution? Give them a prisoner exchange again so they can keep doing it since it seems to work?
WHy should they sit and talkto anyone?
Look, either you leave the people's land, or if yuh intend to stay, make up your mind to deal EFFECTIVELY with the conflict. They were going well with their idea of the wall. I think if they decided tokeep the jews inside of a walled state or city and protect themselves, it would have worked. But this constant retaliation, showing dem we badder han bad, that we mean business, all it's doing is creating more "terrorists".
And for your information, terrorism is a matter of perspective. To the israelis they are terrorists. To the palestinians and lebonese who are bombed and persecuted year in and year out, they are freedom fighters.
Cause I telling you right now, if Venezuela invade T&T, under the guise of protecting oil reserves, blah, blah, I for one will fight with everything I've got to get backmy country, torun the occupiers. How is that different from the palestinians?
I have two views on this, with no one more right than the other.
First you have the Israelis, or the "white Jews" as some call them. First off, they are not Israelis, as in the people in the bible. They are european people who practice the jewish religion, and were "given" a country by the brits and allieds after world war 2, in light of their presecution by the Nazis.
Because of this, you can kind of understand the arab views on them. They are not one of us, never tried to blend in or make friends. Just come in, and displace people who were living in the state of Israel (land anyway) for hundreds of years, all because they had the backing of the americans and brits, etc.
Then add to that the very aggressive and often violent Israeli reaction to every thing done to them. If you had neighbours, who for every inch, they take a yard, would you be able to live in peace with them? The Israelis are just as aggressive and warmongering as their enemies. Their access to advanced weaponry only add to the problem. It's like rocks and grenades versus fighter jets and guided missiles.
Now ask yourself this: if this were any other country, especially a non-first world country, who invaded and started bombing up their neighbours, wouldn't america and britain and NATO have already stepped by now and dealt with it? Makes one wonder. Because Iraq invaded Kuwait, america went to war. Yet the Israelis constantly bomb and invade and occupy their neighbours at will, and no one says boo.
Then on the other hand you have the Palestinians/Lebanese or active terrorist networks. Everybody talks about the suicide bombings and how bad they are to be waging this war on Israel.
Let me ask you this: if your country, or what has been your people's home for hundreds of years, is suddenly occupied by some foreigners, who then make you a second (or even third) class citizen in your own land, make it almost impossible for you to get a good paying job, and then displace you to where ever they feel, bomb you left and right for every protest or act of defiance, what would you do? Would you fight back?
How would you fight back? You don't have any great supply of money to buy weapons. There is an economic embargo on you and your people, because everyone it seems is supporting your occupier in their bid to rid you from the land. What are your options of resistance?
It is a very sad situation, created by the allieds who put europeans in a land that they had no rights too, and displaced a people who are from a culture where they never give up and will fight to the death.
Result? This is never going to stop. The war will rage on. And it will escalate, because the arab community will not stand for seeing their brethren victimized by Israel.
I cannot say one side is right. They are both victims, they are both committing unforgiveable violence because they believe they are right.
Lord help us.
No disrespect RTG, but except for those last couple of statements..did you really present the 2 views as you started off saying you would? I think the history of the situation is irrelevant now, because young Israelis being born today know no other home and feel like they never caused anyone harm...But all their neighbors hate them and would gladly kill them on sight.
Palestinians born today...they live like refugees on what was their land and see the Israelis as a powerful occupying force. Every day is a struggle and any sign of rebellion is met with brutal forceand civialin casualties are the norm. The worst part is both sides hiding behind the BIBLE..and when yuh add religion to the mix...it cyah done until one fall or someone else step in. I think we agree, someone else hadda step in quick or Israel will blast Lebanon back to the ninth century...either that or Iran and co. might jump in and then it will really really really get ugly.
Hezbollah and Israel need to organize a sweat on neutral territory. 11 v 11, extra time and penalties if it tied after the 90. If Hezbollah wins, the kidnapped soldiers have to return to Israeli and resign from the army, and Israel have to stop bombing Lebanon and pay for the damage they cause. If Israel win, they get back their kidnapped soldiers, stop bombing Lebanon, and doh have to fund any damage they cause. Both sides then sign a 5-yr cease fire, plus a rematch for pride. And I eh joking..so doh think I taking it light with the football talk. If US gangs coulda break-dance to solve conflict back in the day...football could solve problems too.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
Yuh eh serious right ???
Everytime Hezbollah kill 5 Israelis the Israeli military kill bout 50 civilians.
It has been about 10 times as much. How exactly are they trying to limit civilian casualities. You know better than that....ah hope.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
Yuh eh serious right ???
Everytime Hezbollah kill 5 Israelis the Israeli military kill bout 50 civilians.
It has been about 10 times as much. How exactly are they trying to limit civilian casualities. You know better than that....ah hope.
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
Yuh eh serious right ???
Everytime Hezbollah kill 5 Israelis the Israeli military kill bout 50 civilians.
It has been about 10 times as much. How exactly are they trying to limit civilian casualities. You know better than that....ah hope.
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.
Dutty yuh working in a museum?
Where yuh find dat calculator? :rotfl:
Dutty yuh working in a museum?
Where yuh find dat calculator? :rotfl:
I have one jess so on my desk... >:(
doh study he Dutty.... how else yuh could run ah lil tape?
Dutty yuh working in a museum?
Where yuh find dat calculator? :rotfl:
I have one jess so on my desk... >:(
doh study he Dutty.... how else yuh could run ah lil tape?
tell dem doctor TELL dem.....dem relic could take real fall from desk everyday and tape still wukkin
nobody cyah get de chips yet...ah still readin allyuh ahm 'dissertations'
All in Isreal is not Isreal, when the US see that the jews are a bad bargin, just like bin laden and saddam, then in the end the US will bomb Isreal, Isreal already forsees this and knows what time it is and have things in place the surprise everybody world wide,so Dutty pass de chips because de party now start.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
there is no solution, jews and muslims will always fight, jews will always feel they have tuh rule their promised land, their true promised land 2 me is the US, not israel
Historically Jews have been in the middle east as long as the arabs, persians etc. I am using historical not biblical fact. The extremists have no intention of ever living side by side with Jews [since for example Hamas Charter calls for the extinction of the jewish state etc]
All in Isreal is not Isreal, when the US see that the jews are a bad bargin, just like bin laden and saddam, then in the end the US will bomb Isreal, Isreal already forsees this and knows what time it is and have things in place the surprise everybody world wide,so Dutty pass de chips because de party now start.
:rotfl: :rotfl:....wayz.... :o....meh belly hurting.....where yuh come up wid dis shit from dred.....
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
WTF? 231 Lebanese have been killed compared to 13 Israelis, what are you talking bout? And let's not even begin to compare the Palestine/Israeli death count.
breds...I realize dat once upon time Bin Ladden and Saddam buy dey guns from de US....All in Isreal is not Isreal, when the US see that the jews are a bad bargin, just like bin laden and saddam, then in the end the US will bomb Isreal, Isreal already forsees this and knows what time it is and have things in place the surprise everybody world wide,so Dutty pass de chips because de party now start.
:rotfl: :rotfl:....wayz.... :o....meh belly hurting.....where yuh come up wid dis shit from dred.....
licks once upon a time bin laden an saddam an de US was best ah buddies, the love went sour an look where they is today, an yuh belly must hurt because de truth does hurt....
there is no solution, jews and muslims will always fight, jews will always feel they have tuh rule their promised land, their true promised land 2 me is the US, not israel
Historically Jews have been in the middle east as long as the arabs, persians etc. I am using historical not biblical fact. The extremists have no intention of ever living side by side with Jews [since for example Hamas Charter calls for the extinction of the jewish state etc]
Oh, yeah, so it's the Palestinians' fault that they've been usurped of their sovereignity, is it?
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
WTF? 231 Lebanese have been killed compared to 13 Israelis, what are you talking bout? And let's not even begin to compare the Palestine/Israeli death count.
I meant it in a more general sense over the years, but you are right a disproportionate number of civilains have been killed. What would you suggest Israel do? Moving out of southern Lebanon seems to have hurt them more than help them. Look I am just giving another perspective people are always quick to attack the Us and Israel but no one ever seems to put any blame on the palestinians, hezbollah etc. More than 14000 Iragis for instance have been killed in non U.S. related violence [i.e. Sunnis etc killing shites and vice versa]. Where is all the worldwide outrage over that??? No everyone only talking about AMerica this and George Bush that [btw I am not saying I agree with that war so doh worry wit dat]. The situation in the middle east is a bad one and it is always sad to see innocent people do. But again what should Israel do??
there is no solution, jews and muslims will always fight, jews will always feel they have tuh rule their promised land, their true promised land 2 me is the US, not israel
Historically Jews have been in the middle east as long as the arabs, persians etc. I am using historical not biblical fact. The extremists have no intention of ever living side by side with Jews [since for example Hamas Charter calls for the extinction of the jewish state etc]
Oh, yeah, so it's the Palestinians' fault that they've been usurped of their sovereignity, is it?
Relax all I saying is there could be peace tomorrow if everyone was willing to come to the table. If you want to be vex with people who screw the 'Palestinians' then add Jordan, Egypt, Turkey to the list. If you don't know why then do some research before yer start attacking only one group.
No sah. I am giving a perspective that you disagree with. Which is fine. Trust me I don't need to do much more research but a man can never know everything. One of the main reasons Israel changed in size is because of a number of wars that it fought when attacked by it's 'loving neighbors'. Again it is sad the life that many people over there have to live [on all sides] but don't be so blind to think that everything is Israel fault and everyone else is innocent. There is plenty of blame to go around.
No sah. I am giving a perspective that you disagree with. Which is fine. Trust me I don't need to do much more research but a man can never know everything. One of the main reasons Israel changed in size is because of a number of wars that it fought when attacked by it's 'loving neighbors'. Again it is sad the life that many people over there have to live [on all sides] but don't be so blind to think that everything is Israel fault and everyone else is innocent. There is plenty of blame to go around.
There is plenty blame to go round, right. I see you've changed your tune from earlier.
No sah. I am giving a perspective that you disagree with. Which is fine. Trust me I don't need to do much more research but a man can never know everything. One of the main reasons Israel changed in size is because of a number of wars that it fought when attacked by it's 'loving neighbors'. Again it is sad the life that many people over there have to live [on all sides] but don't be so blind to think that everything is Israel fault and everyone else is innocent. There is plenty of blame to go around.
There is plenty blame to go round, right. I see you've changed your tune from earlier.
Doh get tie up, I eh changing no tune I never said only Palestinians to blame [ you might have determined that on your own from readin my posts, but never said or meant that]. I am just one of those that are not willing to blame Israel for everything going on over there and give hezbollah, hamas, palestinianse etc a pass on everything they did and do under the pretense of [they only fighting for their homeland BS]. ANyway i fighting a losing battle trying to show that.
yuh know ah always used to wonder if Hitler knew something we didnt concerning them Jews?
maybe he foresaw all this shit?..and ah not trying to give him credit btw.
what was his reasons for trying to exterminate Jews?..ah cant remember.
History is like that. In the academic arena, the is room for dissenting/revisionism to history. The exploding of myths :devil:yuh know ah always used to wonder if Hitler knew something we didnt concerning them Jews?
maybe he foresaw all this shit?..and ah not trying to give him credit btw.
what was his reasons for trying to exterminate Jews?..ah cant remember.
Aye...careful...yuh treading some dangerous waters.
The iranian prez say the holocaust didn't happen (a conspiracy theorist make prez yes!).
This is happening because one group have more fire power than the other...simple.
If it was the other way around same ting would be happening if not worse.
Moderators..please move this thread to the general discussion
i suprised this topic took so long to show up on the board...ah was thinking bout starting it last week but ah didnt want certain people to say ah against Jews or Palestines lol.
Them 2 sides will always battle..this will go on till we reach Armageddon.
As someone said, the other arab nations robbed Palestine of some land when they had the last major war, this was when they ganged up on Israel.
This time Israel was just itching for an excuse to make trouble, to put Lebanon back into the doldrums. That country just get back on their feet after 20 years of war, then everything get destroyed again..that real hard to swallow.
All i can say is let Israel continue with their indescretion and the rest of the world will see them for who they truly are. America have they head up Israel arse so far it ent even funny, look how Bush fraid to even scold them lol.
Allyuh ever notice when Fox and CNN interview anybody Arabic how they does grill them and try to put words in their mouth? Then when the Israeli person get interviewed they all nice nicey and sympathetic.
I must say it was nice of CNN to go into Lebanon the other night with the Hezbollah official and do a tour of all the civilian damage.
Anybody know what Nostradamus have to say bout this and the middle east conflict?..all i could remeber was that Israel has to built a temple somewhere in palestine and then that will single the end of the world etc..but then when yuh check it out..the site of that proposed temple is actually the site of an important mosque..talk bout pressure if yuh is the anti-Christ eh?lol
breds...I realize dat once upon time Bin Ladden and Saddam buy dey guns from de US....All in Isreal is not Isreal, when the US see that the jews are a bad bargin, just like bin laden and saddam, then in the end the US will bomb Isreal, Isreal already forsees this and knows what time it is and have things in place the surprise everybody world wide,so Dutty pass de chips because de party now start.
:rotfl: :rotfl:....wayz.... :o....meh belly hurting.....where yuh come up wid dis shit from dred.....
licks once upon a time bin laden an saddam an de US was best ah buddies, the love went sour an look where they is today, an yuh belly must hurt because de truth does hurt....
but yuh have to realize that the US will always look out for themselves......they initially sell guns to dem to make a profit, not realizing dem same "terrorists" would be fighting dem in the future
Israel is totally different dred....yuh forgetting jewish influence in de States and the power they have.....I think it's obvious how much influence the wealthy jews have in the US now and in de future, thus if the US do as usual(look out for themselves), they will never bomb Israel....hence my amusement from yuh last post.....no disrepeck intended....i just thought it was hilarious, since I think the US will never ever bomb Israel, strictly because ah politics....... :beermug:
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
WTF? 231 Lebanese have been killed compared to 13 Israelis, what are you talking bout? And let's not even begin to compare the Palestine/Israeli death count.
I meant it in a more general sense over the years, but you are right a disproportionate number of civilains have been killed. What would you suggest Israel do? Moving out of southern Lebanon seems to have hurt them more than help them. Look I am just giving another perspective people are always quick to attack the Us and Israel but no one ever seems to put any blame on the palestinians, hezbollah etc. More than 14000 Iragis for instance have been killed in non U.S. related violence [i.e. Sunnis etc killing shites and vice versa]. Where is all the worldwide outrage over that??? No everyone only talking about AMerica this and George Bush that [btw I am not saying I agree with that war so doh worry wit dat]. The situation in the middle east is a bad one and it is always sad to see innocent people do. But again what should Israel do??
So all this is Hezbollah's fault ?
I have two views on this, with no one more right than the other.
First you have the Israelis, or the "white Jews" as some call them. First off, they are not Israelis, as in the people in the bible. They are european people who practice the jewish religion, and were "given" a country by the brits and allieds after world war 2, in light of their presecution by the Nazis.
Because of this, you can kind of understand the arab views on them. They are not one of us, never tried to blend in or make friends. Just come in, and displace people who were living in the state of Israel (land anyway) for hundreds of years, all because they had the backing of the americans and brits, etc.
Then add to that the very aggressive and often violent Israeli reaction to every thing done to them. If you had neighbours, who for every inch, they take a yard, would you be able to live in peace with them? The Israelis are just as aggressive and warmongering as their enemies. Their access to advanced weaponry only add to the problem. It's like rocks and grenades versus fighter jets and guided missiles.
Now ask yourself this: if this were any other country, especially a non-first world country, who invaded and started bombing up their neighbours, wouldn't america and britain and NATO have already stepped by now and dealt with it? Makes one wonder. Because Iraq invaded Kuwait, america went to war. Yet the Israelis constantly bomb and invade and occupy their neighbours at will, and no one says boo.
Then on the other hand you have the Palestinians/Lebanese or active terrorist networks. Everybody talks about the suicide bombings and how bad they are to be waging this war on Israel.
Let me ask you this: if your country, or what has been your people's home for hundreds of years, is suddenly occupied by some foreigners, who then make you a second (or even third) class citizen in your own land, make it almost impossible for you to get a good paying job, and then displace you to where ever they feel, bomb you left and right for every protest or act of defiance, what would you do? Would you fight back?
How would you fight back? You don't have any great supply of money to buy weapons. There is an economic embargo on you and your people, because everyone it seems is supporting your occupier in their bid to rid you from the land. What are your options of resistance?
It is a very sad situation, created by the allieds who put europeans in a land that they had no rights too, and displaced a people who are from a culture where they never give up and will fight to the death.
Result? This is never going to stop. The war will rage on. And it will escalate, because the arab community will not stand for seeing their brethren victimized by Israel.
I cannot say one side is right. They are both victims, they are both committing unforgiveable violence because they believe they are right.
Lord help us.
:applause: :applause: :applause:. My biggest hear is that, if it escalates to Syria and Iran start supplying them with missiles. If Israel back is against the wall they'll go nuke. US may wont to deploy troops to save Israel ass. I have already spoke out at my unit that I am not fighting no war for Israel. Been to Kuwait and Iraq but hell go freeze over before I go defend Israel.
question.
do you hate everyone that is white, everyone that is British, or only white British people?
There was nothing in her post that implied that she hated white people...where is that question coming from ?
I'm probably being over sensitive, but the reference to the fact that Israel was set up by Britain and other allies, why name Britain specifically.
Also, the Israelis known as White Jews, are they? is there a difference between white and "Non-White" jews? when I was there, it was hard to tell the difference between the jews, the Palestinians and the Beduins by simply looking at them (With obvious exceptions).
So Pompey, you are my neighbour and you have no control over your son and he want to come over in my house and disrespect me and my family and the police (UN) not doing a damn thing. What amI supposed to do?
What I find interesting in this whole conflict is that both jews and muslims come from the same ancestors, and the same people. They both acknowledge Abraham as their father, the starter of their faiths. They have such similar cultural religious practices. So many similarities. Same people, from same part of the world. But for the sake of religion (or the name of their religions) they are at war. I think sometimes God sits back and wonders what did he do in creating man.
israel is responsible for israel. lebanon is responsible for lebanon. if lebanon cyah (or doh want to) stop hezbollah, then lebanon deserve to be occupied.I hope that eh an original thought :-[ :frustrated:
i argued about this from both side with a few of my very well-informed friends. i've read quite a few books on the issue as well from both sides. my thinking has also changed over the last several years from idealistism to more recently pragmatism. i don't see a clean solution ever in this conflict.
I agree there does not seem to be a 'clean' solution. In the end we all have to look out for our own. At least Israel tries to limit civilian casualities, no such luck with Hezbollah, Hamas etc, etc.
Yuh eh serious right ???
Everytime Hezbollah kill 5 Israelis the Israeli military kill bout 50 civilians.
It has been about 10 times as much. How exactly are they trying to limit civilian casualities. You know better than that....ah hope.
Well you right on that, but I meant it in terms of the actual targets and the number of civilians that could be killed if no caution was taken. When you look at the scale of the military action a lot more civilians could be injured. If you stop and look at things objectively you will see that Israel [whether you agree with them or not] are taking measures to try to secure the safety of their people. The terrorist organizations on the other hand intentionally target civilians for maximum emotional effect. A soldier blowing up a a building housing a terrorist leader with a satelite guided missile versus just dropping bombs on the whole strett is different to a lunatic going into a crowded market with women, children, old people and blowing him[or her] self up. I hope you understand the difference.
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
for real, time to watch some al jazeera, some independent forums and blogs to get the other side of the argument...
not that CNN force-feed sh*t, which will tell you today that Israel incurred "minor casualties" in today's ground invasion, when the truth is hezbollah give dem some tempo on de border...
What I find interesting in this whole conflict is that both jews and muslims come from the same ancestors, and the same people. They both acknowledge Abraham as their father, the starter of their faiths. They have such similar cultural religious practices. So many similarities. Same people, from same part of the world. But for the sake of religion (or the name of their religions) they are at war. I think sometimes God sits back and wonders what did he do in creating man.
No sah. I am giving a perspective that you disagree with. Which is fine. Trust me I don't need to do much more research but a man can never know everything. One of the main reasons Israel changed in size is because of a number of wars that it fought when attacked by it's 'loving neighbors'. Again it is sad the life that many people over there have to live [on all sides] but don't be so blind to think that everything is Israel fault and everyone else is innocent. There is plenty of blame to go around.
yuh know ah always used to wonder if Hitler knew something we didnt concerning them Jews?
maybe he foresaw all this shit?..and ah not trying to give him credit btw.
what was his reasons for trying to exterminate Jews?..ah cant remember.
good one Ollie :rotfl:
i am looking to get an expedition force of Amerindians from Guyana to take back Trinidad as its righfully there own. I am sure the USA will be willing to give me $2.6 billion in military aid a year to acheive my objectives
lemme see how much blows yuh going to get today for that statement lolWhat I find interesting in this whole conflict is that both jews and muslims come from the same ancestors, and the same people. They both acknowledge Abraham as their father, the starter of their faiths. They have such similar cultural religious practices. So many similarities. Same people, from same part of the world. But for the sake of religion (or the name of their religions) they are at war. I think sometimes God sits back and wonders what did he do in creating man.
Sad to say, but perhaps human beings should have never evolved at all... :(
Please remember we must go back beyond David Ben-Gurion (Isreals first prime minister) times. before the Ottoman Empire. Question is who lived there before Syria and Palestine was formed. And the Expulsion of the Jews around 70AD.wait nah..who was it that expulsed the Jews in the first place?lol
Even if...that's o.k. I can live with it...and who knows? The harder the blows, the more I just might think I could be right... :) What I wrote (above) is actually only a quote from a song from one of my favorite bands, Dystopia (I guess, for legal reasons, I should mention this...) Didn't mean to insult anyone in person, only mankind in general... ;) Actually this was not really meant 100% seriously, but in every joke or sarcastic statement ther is always a tiny bit of truth/honesty...nonetheless, don't take it too seriously... ;)lemme see how much blows yuh going to get today for that statement lolWhat I find interesting in this whole conflict is that both jews and muslims come from the same ancestors, and the same people. They both acknowledge Abraham as their father, the starter of their faiths. They have such similar cultural religious practices. So many similarities. Same people, from same part of the world. But for the sake of religion (or the name of their religions) they are at war. I think sometimes God sits back and wonders what did he do in creating man.
Sad to say, but perhaps human beings should have never evolved at all... :(
That when people discuss the issue and people say the Israelis stole the land the standard rebuttal is the Jews were there first and were expelled. My point is that one cannot go back 2,000 years for justification otherwise so many other people could use the same line.
So many americans defend Israel's right to take the occupied territories due to this historical fact. Thats when I point out they (American ancestors) stole their land from the American Indians and the Mexicans,I then ask them if they will support Mexico's historical right to take back New Mexico and Texas and the American Indians right to take back their whole dam country, its normally at that point they get quiet and then says thats different ! How I dont know ?
this is why Israel and Palestine have to deal with the here and now and recent history which starts back in 1870's for its creation.
i am looking to get an expedition force of Amerindians from Guyana to take back Trinidad as its righfully there own. I am sure the USA will be willing to give me $2.6 billion in military aid a year to acheive my objectives
Please remember we must go back beyond David Ben-Gurion (Isreals first prime minister) times. before the Ottoman Empire. Question is who lived there before Syria and Palestine was formed. And the Expulsion of the Jews around 70AD.wait nah..who was it that expulsed the Jews in the first place?lol
This is a dumb question but I will ask anyway.
Israel going and pay for the infrustructure damage to the airports etc?
Cuz I doh think they officially at war with the Lebanese government so I doh think the Lebanese military (if that exist) doing anything.
How does this war ting work....if yuh get bomb yuh hadda fix yuh own damages? Does the UN help or what....they whole place getting mash up.
They say Israel stands to benefit by having a strong Lebanese government but that not looking likely now :-\
This not proportionate to 2 soldiers being kidnapped....I believe that would be the majority "world" opinion.
That when people discuss the issue and people say the Israelis stole the land the standard rebuttal is the Jews were there first and were expelled. My point is that one cannot go back 2,000 years for justification otherwise so many other people could use the same line.
So many americans defend Israel's right to take the occupied territories due to this historical fact. Thats when I point out they (American ancestors) stole their land from the American Indians and the Mexicans,I then ask them if they will support Mexico's historical right to take back New Mexico and Texas and the American Indians right to take back their whole dam country, its normally at that point they get quiet and then says thats different ! How I dont know ?
this is why Israel and Palestine have to deal with the here and now and recent history which starts back in 1870's for its creation.
i am looking to get an expedition force of Amerindians from Guyana to take back Trinidad as its righfully there own. I am sure the USA will be willing to give me $2.6 billion in military aid a year to acheive my objectives
Okay the present deal is that unprovoked, Hezbullah entered Israel teritory kidnapped two soldiers. The Lebanon Government is doing nothing to help return the soldiers and Israel has gone in to bring it's sons home.
Please remember that history is all these cultures have their present is built on their history. As we might say move on it is easier said than done. These 2 brothers shall forever fight.
Hezbullah Fires wildly thier rockets in to Israel northern cities simply carelessly firing, while Israel fires targeted shots.
Israel ensures the safty of it's PPL by providing them bunkers while Hezbullah uses their PPL as their shield.
When asked why not just return the soldiers they never reply you know why? Well I believe it's because they are asshamed to let the trueth be know that the soldiers have been murdered.
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
for real, time to watch some al jazeera, some independent forums and blogs to get the other side of the argument...
not that CNN force-feed sh*t, which will tell you today that Israel incurred "minor casualties" in today's ground invasion, when the truth is hezbollah give dem some tempo on de border...
Yeah like IRAQI foreign minister saying on ARAB News that thhe US was falling like dogs when they invaded. Yeah like their news is not Biased. I liked seeing him on news. " The occupiers are running with their tales between thier legs like wounded dogs" He said. Remember that? Al Jazeera my A@@
Boy it have ah leader dat take over de iraqi minister comedy role
ah man who LOVE he pork bad bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush)
de man bussin moves in smartBoy it have ah leader dat take over de iraqi minister comedy role
ah man who LOVE he pork bad bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush)
check how angela merkel watching him like wdmc??
john stewart last ngiht said if it was clinton she woulda be naked already..but bush scary..lolde man bussin moves in smartBoy it have ah leader dat take over de iraqi minister comedy role
ah man who LOVE he pork bad bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush)
check how angela merkel watching him like wdmc??
check angela face here...she vibes his like "mymc from behind mih nah" :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0tEQhaK4VM&search=bush%20back%20rub
wow !!! anybody have that Organic to english dictionary ? ;D
only alcohol and paragraphs...if god didnt want we eat animals we woulnd amke dem outta meat..so pass de pig foot ;Dwow !!! anybody have that Organic to english dictionary ? ;D
I think he once told me his church strictly prohibits the use of pork, alchohol & paragraphs
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
for real, time to watch some al jazeera, some independent forums and blogs to get the other side of the argument...
not that CNN force-feed sh*t, which will tell you today that Israel incurred "minor casualties" in today's ground invasion, when the truth is hezbollah give dem some tempo on de border...
Yeah like IRAQI foreign minister saying on ARAB News that thhe US was falling like dogs when they invaded. Yeah like their news is not Biased. I liked seeing him on news. " The occupiers are running with their tales between thier legs like wounded dogs" He said. Remember that? Al Jazeera my A@@
Long live the Iraqi minister of information http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ That guy was kicks
U.S killing time to give Israel more time to continue their military campaign after that they will get more involved [ah figure about a week or so]. If Syria doh bet more involved things will wrap up quicker, if not real s*&t will happen and nobody want that. Hopefully at the end the Lebanese govt will be able to take back control of their entire coutry [that might be wishful thinking though]. If Israel keep sending in their special forces into southern Lebanon they will realize that they not dealing with Hamas. Hezbollah is a different set of fish. Just my take. In the end it need to finish quick so innocent people don't have to continue to die.
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
for real, time to watch some al jazeera, some independent forums and blogs to get the other side of the argument...
not that CNN force-feed sh*t, which will tell you today that Israel incurred "minor casualties" in today's ground invasion, when the truth is hezbollah give dem some tempo on de border...
Yeah like IRAQI foreign minister saying on ARAB News that thhe US was falling like dogs when they invaded. Yeah like their news is not Biased. I liked seeing him on news. " The occupiers are running with their tales between thier legs like wounded dogs" He said. Remember that? Al Jazeera my A@@
Long live the Iraqi minister of information http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ That guy was kicks
That man was de best!!! I used to watch de news just to see what he go say next...... MY wife and I would just laugh every time he talked it was better that Kings of Comedy. He was de true king.
So all the PPL that say they know so much about what going on what do you think will happen next?
Do you think the Israel soldiers are still alive.?
I may sound bias well its because I am in this case. I have followed the development aff this area for a very long time acctually since I was a child.
well ah hope ww3 doesnt start from this shit, but it is highly possible
well ah hope ww3 doesnt start from this shit, but it is highly possible
How can you blame the Hezbollah they are just standing up for the Palistine people, remember they have been displaced since 1948 when the Jews came back to claim their land, their is a beginning and an end to everything, something got to happen this time.Slade go watch ah football match and leave this conversation to grown ups ;D
Yet another post by someone ignorant to the facts.
Luke you have alot to learn. I will be your ob1
Every one asked for facts I gave facts yet no one has any to contradict what I have laid on the table. 90% of those labanese prisoners were caught in Israel trying to commit a crime. I will never negotiate with terrorist. I do not agree totally with the moving of Israel troops into Lebanese teritory but thats what Israel thinks must be done. I do hope though that other Arab countries(Iran & Syria) do not get involved.
The US has other reasons why they are not in a rush to get involved the main one I cannot share online, but they can not and will not untill Iraq has some sort of stabilization. Only involvement by other countries may force the US hand. With my job working with soldiers on a daily basis I do not want to see them go to war again. They need a rest and time with their families.
Every one asked for facts I gave facts yet no one has any to contradict what I have laid on the table. 90% of those labanese prisoners were caught in Israel trying to commit a crime. I will never negotiate with terrorist. I do not agree totally with the moving of Israel troops into Lebanese teritory but thats what Israel thinks must be done. I do hope though that other Arab countries(Iran & Syria) do not get involved.
The US has other reasons why they are not in a rush to get involved the main one I cannot share online, but they can not and will not untill Iraq has some sort of stabilization. Only involvement by other countries may force the US hand. With my job working with soldiers on a daily basis I do not want to see them go to war again. They need a rest and time with their families.
Which facts you bring? You just sounding like an idiot whole thread and we still waiting on de facts.
Isreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
Isreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
the main reason Us went into kuwait..wasnt because un ask dem...or anyhtig like thta..is because of oil...and their buddies sudi arabia..which has most of its gold in the us..and let us not forget the connection ebwteen the oil bushs and oil sudis.... . sudi was afraid that they were next on sadam hit list. dais y. y havent the us gone into all thos einvasions in africa..etc...look hwo long thye took to do in the former yougoslavia..no oil..no incentivesIsreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
TM, dis is true but, like i said in my previous post, the relationship between hezbollah and the lebanese is more complex than that. israel is attacking the lebanese to punish them for tacitly supporting hezbollah - that much should be obvious. this is the collective punishment strategy used in places like russia, china, etc. since adam. alot of lebanese will take serious licks for hezbollah but others will not and want to see the back of syria, iran and hezbollah. the purpose is to drive a wedge in lebanese society and cause dem to confront the issue of hezbollah. like ah say, dis is more complex. again, ah not saying israel is doing charity work in lebanon - is real horrors for most. is always the poor too.
the lesson that israel is laying dong is "if you support hezbollah, is licks. if you doh do nothing about hezbollah, is more licks". why dey doh go after iran? because yuh fight battles yuh could win. war is a foreign policy instrument and modern foreign policy is what dey call "risk averse" - like finance. only fools like saddam hussein speculate on war (kuwait). understand some foreign policy and all dis makes sense. study africa if yuh want to see real waste of human life.
the main reason Us went into kuwait..wasnt because un ask dem...or anyhtig like thta..is because of oil...and their buddies sudi arabia..which has most of its gold in the us..and let us not forget the connection ebwteen the oil bushs and oil sudis.... . sudi was afraid that they were next on sadam hit list. dais y. y havent the us gone into all thos einvasions in africa..etc...look hwo long thye took to do in the former yougoslavia..no oil..no incentivesIsreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
TM, dis is true but, like i said in my previous post, the relationship between hezbollah and the lebanese is more complex than that. israel is attacking the lebanese to punish them for tacitly supporting hezbollah - that much should be obvious. this is the collective punishment strategy used in places like russia, china, etc. since adam. alot of lebanese will take serious licks for hezbollah but others will not and want to see the back of syria, iran and hezbollah. the purpose is to drive a wedge in lebanese society and cause dem to confront the issue of hezbollah. like ah say, dis is more complex. again, ah not saying israel is doing charity work in lebanon - is real horrors for most. is always the poor too.
the lesson that israel is laying dong is "if you support hezbollah, is licks. if you doh do nothing about hezbollah, is more licks". why dey doh go after iran? because yuh fight battles yuh could win. war is a foreign policy instrument and modern foreign policy is what dey call "risk averse" - like finance. only fools like saddam hussein speculate on war (kuwait). understand some foreign policy and all dis makes sense. study africa if yuh want to see real waste of human life.
TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.Quote
Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda
for real, time to watch some al jazeera, some independent forums and blogs to get the other side of the argument...
not that CNN force-feed sh*t, which will tell you today that Israel incurred "minor casualties" in today's ground invasion, when the truth is hezbollah give dem some tempo on de border...
Yeah like IRAQI foreign minister saying on ARAB News that thhe US was falling like dogs when they invaded. Yeah like their news is not Biased. I liked seeing him on news. " The occupiers are running with their tales between thier legs like wounded dogs" He said. Remember that? Al Jazeera my A@@
Long live the Iraqi minister of information http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ That guy was kicks
Geez an ages. Yer serious??? Hezbollah is partly the instrument of Iran and Syria and they are Israels current problem. Iran and Syria will be dealt with as time goes by. If Syria had openly initiated the attack then maybe they could go in, maybe. It is a complicated situation not a comic book story.what dat mean..by whom??? dealt with u kidding right? wah u feel it is mammy beating some picky head children? wo dealing wiht them?Quote
Isreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
Geez an ages. Yer serious??? Hezbollah is partly the instrument of Iran and Syria and they are Israels current problem. Iran and Syria will be dealt with as time goes by. If Syria had openly initiated the attack then maybe they could go in, maybe. It is a complicated situation not a comic book story.
de man never say israel go deal wiht them.he say thye will eb dealt withIsreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
Geez an ages. Yer serious??? Hezbollah is partly the instrument of Iran and Syria and they are Israels current problem. Iran and Syria will be dealt with as time goes by. If Syria had openly initiated the attack then maybe they could go in, maybe. It is a complicated situation not a comic book story.
Oh, Israel will "deal with them", right? And you want to put forth this farce of being impartal. ::)
Isreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
Geez an ages. Yer serious??? Hezbollah is partly the instrument of Iran and Syria and they are Israels current problem. Iran and Syria will be dealt with as time goes by. If Syria had openly initiated the attack then maybe they could go in, maybe. It is a complicated situation not a comic book story.
Oh, Israel will "deal with them", right? And you want to put forth this farce of being impartal. ::)
Isreal is doing nothing but destroying building and killing innocent people. Everybody knows that. That is not the way to destroy Hezobllah because as they and even the US admit...Iran is backing Hezbollah with money, weapons, and people. So what would be gained by bombing and killing in Lebanon. Iran could easily replenish Hezbollah.
This is just vengence by Israel and a lack of concern for anyone who isnt a Israeli. They get so much backing from the Americans but would bomb the Airport so civilians can't leave. Their concern is just to punish Lebanon...if they and the US really wanted to stop Hezbollah then they would look in Iran's direction BUT why do that when you could bomb a country at will with feeble resistence as opposed to having accurate weapons and air planes doing to them what they are doing to Lebanon.
This would stop soon with nothing resolved when Isreal feels like they have set Lebanon a few years back and have them preoccupied with rebuilding. No lesson will be learned from this as it isn't the first time it has happened nor will it be the last.
Geez an ages. Yer serious??? Hezbollah is partly the instrument of Iran and Syria and they are Israels current problem. Iran and Syria will be dealt with as time goes by. If Syria had openly initiated the attack then maybe they could go in, maybe. It is a complicated situation not a comic book story.
Oh, Israel will "deal with them", right? And you want to put forth this farce of being impartal. ::)
You hear me say anything about Israel dealing with them??? Please read my posts more carefully before jumping on man. Ah have a strong back but I eh no donkey!!
Toppa you might want to read post #153 too. Yer a little hasty in yer posts. Patience is a virtue especially if you trying to quote man.
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
Toppa you might want to read post #153 too. Yer a little hasty in yer posts. Patience is a virtue especially if you trying to quote man.
Okay well let me spell it out then. Right now the world [yes the world not the U.S.] are pressuring Iran about their nuclear program. Syria is getting pressure from the U.S. and U.K. among others for it's support of Hezbollah. Israel has purposely limited it's focus to Hezbollah and Lebanon. Does that help??
That post not clearing up anything.
Let me save you the trouble of scrolling up the screen:
Post #153
I ike that.
Dealt with can mean a lot of things not necessarily militarily. Syria if push come to shove is an easier target to deal with than Iran. Iran is facing pressure from tthe world especially Europe [right now though it eh making no difference].One diference between iran and irag is it is not the U.S. alone this time. Even France have real issues with Iran have nukes, etc. No one is sure what will happen down the road. Only thing for sure is right now Israel punding Lebanon, hezbollah tryng to pound and we wil see what happens when the dust clears.
Now if you need to make a sensible comment based on facts not imagination or misunderstanding of posts.
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
to woman right..what facts no hezbollah eh have no right....and i kinda mentioned that hezbollah and hamas usually do things like that because they need popular support so they initaitae large sacle conflits. though i knwo there are other reaons.You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
Okay Jab Jab, I posted before you edited your post. Yeah, you're clear to me right now.
to woman right..what facts no hezbollah eh have no right....and i kinda mentioned that hezbollah and hamas usually do things like that because they need popular support so they initaitae large sacle conflits. though i knwo there are other reaons.You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
but u eh no difference man....if we listenin to de press what u listenin to ..american government..and its miltary..y because u ahve to...u agreee witht he invasion of iraq? was that to defend american borders..come dude propaganda iis only false when it not servign yoru purposes. and pertaining to your argument about the press no one spues more governmental backed drivel that the american press... y ppl listen to fox, msn nbc etc is beyond me. so unless toppa gettign she info form somewhere else is american stations she listenin to. u want real news listen to the bbc.
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
The man posted a number of items before. And no one has said anything about why Israel went in there in the first place. Israel is not in the business of 'capturing'. If you commit a crime you will be arrested if you're a terrorist you may be arrested if possible, if not you will be targeted for assasssination.
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
Did you just jump in the thread? Apparently you did not take time to read pages 3 4 and 5. Just a thought you may want to read It is fundamental.
EXPLAIN YUH position on history and culture...and i will see if the infitismal knowledge i gained on my lil foray on planet earth helps to clarify yuh postitionto woman right..what facts no hezbollah eh have no right....and i kinda mentioned that hezbollah and hamas usually do things like that because they need popular support so they initaitae large sacle conflits. though i knwo there are other reaons.You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
but u eh no difference man....if we listenin to de press what u listenin to ..american government..and its miltary..y because u ahve to...u agreee witht he invasion of iraq? was that to defend american borders..come dude propaganda iis only false when it not servign yoru purposes. and pertaining to your argument about the press no one spues more governmental backed drivel that the american press... y ppl listen to fox, msn nbc etc is beyond me. so unless toppa gettign she info form somewhere else is american stations she listenin to. u want real news listen to the bbc.
For your info I have Arab news, English news and American news, Oh I almost forgot German news. This is not all I READ!!!!!
You must first understand history then culture of these PPL to understand what is going on now.... If all you listen to is BBC then you are also missing alot of info
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
The man posted a number of items before. And no one has said anything about why Israel went in there in the first place. Israel is not in the business of 'capturing'. If you commit a crime you will be arrested if you're a terrorist you may be arrested if possible, if not you will be targeted for assasssination.
Oh God doh meh laugh! Israel don't capture prisoners?!? lmao And I view the Israelis as terrorists as much as you probably view the Palestineans, Syrians and Iranians as terrorists. How many breaches of the Geneva Convention have they broken...how many International laws...how many times have they bombed cvilian areas...you say you're well-read on the matter and didn't need to do any researh, right? Right. lol
EXPLAIN YUH position on history and culture...and i will see if the infitismal knowledge i gained on my lil foray on planet earth helps to clarify yuh postitionto woman right..what facts no hezbollah eh have no right....and i kinda mentioned that hezbollah and hamas usually do things like that because they need popular support so they initaitae large sacle conflits. though i knwo there are other reaons.You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
but u eh no difference man....if we listenin to de press what u listenin to ..american government..and its miltary..y because u ahve to...u agreee witht he invasion of iraq? was that to defend american borders..come dude propaganda iis only false when it not servign yoru purposes. and pertaining to your argument about the press no one spues more governmental backed drivel that the american press... y ppl listen to fox, msn nbc etc is beyond me. so unless toppa gettign she info form somewhere else is american stations she listenin to. u want real news listen to the bbc.
For your info I have Arab news, English news and American news, Oh I almost forgot German news. This is not all I READ!!!!!
You must first understand history then culture of these PPL to understand what is going on now.... If all you listen to is BBC then you are also missing alot of info
You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
The man posted a number of items before. And no one has said anything about why Israel went in there in the first place. Israel is not in the business of 'capturing'. If you commit a crime you will be arrested if you're a terrorist you may be arrested if possible, if not you will be targeted for assasssination.
Oh God doh meh laugh! Israel don't capture prisoners?!? lmao And I view the Israelis as terrorists as much as you probably view the Palestineans, Syrians and Iranians as terrorists. How many breaches of the Geneva Convention have they broken...how many International laws...how many times have they bombed cvilian areas...you say you're well-read on the matter and didn't need to do any researh, right? Right. lol
to woman right..what facts no hezbollah eh have no right....and i kinda mentioned that hezbollah and hamas usually do things like that because they need popular support so they initaitae large sacle conflits. though i knwo there are other reaons.You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
but u eh no difference man....if we listenin to de press what u listenin to ..american government..and its miltary..y because u ahve to...u agreee witht he invasion of iraq? was that to defend american borders..come dude propaganda iis only false when it not servign yoru purposes. and pertaining to your argument about the press no one spues more governmental backed drivel that the american press... y ppl listen to fox, msn nbc etc is beyond me. so unless toppa gettign she info form somewhere else is american stations she listenin to. u want real news listen to the bbc.
admittedly younger than u....but i have done my share fo travel...to woman right..what facts no hezbollah eh have no right....and i kinda mentioned that hezbollah and hamas usually do things like that because they need popular support so they initaitae large sacle conflits. though i knwo there are other reaons.You all are a bunch of babling idiots. Have you not read my previous post. You have not brought one reson why Hezbollah was right to kidnap those soldiers. You are being fed garbage from the press and you believe it all. I laid down historical facts you laid down rumor
What historical fact was laid down? And how does it apply to the current situation? And Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers in the hopes of a prisoner exchnge, meaning that Israel have kidnapped their people too.
but u eh no difference man....if we listenin to de press what u listenin to ..american government..and its miltary..y because u ahve to...u agreee witht he invasion of iraq? was that to defend american borders..come dude propaganda iis only false when it not servign yoru purposes. and pertaining to your argument about the press no one spues more governmental backed drivel that the american press... y ppl listen to fox, msn nbc etc is beyond me. so unless toppa gettign she info form somewhere else is american stations she listenin to. u want real news listen to the bbc.
I am retired from the military but while in I did my job.. I don't have to agree I obeyed my orders. That has no factor here though. I live in Germany Lived in US only for 6 years... 21 in Trini & in Europe for 7. I have been to many countries so I have experienced alot of cultures how far have you been in the world honestly to comprehend all that is going on.
gimme ah synopsis nah friday......lol.....and i neutral as hell...because both sides full ah shit and have reached far beyond thier"good" inital intentions to jus be self seeking. both sides in a way fighting for survival but the ppl who ruling these countries...are by far and large power seekers. and ppl dont forget the concept of terrorism is an israeli creation.
thier far left and thier far right started terrorism by killing themselves to secure power in the counties infancy
dat better dutty ;D
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
PLease I try my best to stay unbiased in all aspects but like I said before in an earlier post I am in this case bias only because It is a history and culture iknow well on both sides. I fully agree with Israels actions but do think that there is a limit to how far they should go with it. I never want to see PPL suffer and that is whats going on. To me it is because a government does not want to take the neccessary steps to protect is PPL and Boarders from the "tumor" that grows within.
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
Well let me ask you something. Do you have any problems with what groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are doing to mostly innocent people in Israel?
man..u hti a nerve....no the us not all bad...but they right up there boss
they over produce food evey yr. and let it go to waste in silos . yes they donate the most food to de poor they also produce the most and the majority which isnt used goes to waste. they also the largest arms delaers in de world also eh. they sell to who ever has the smae policy at the time
man if the only superpower goes agsint the UN the only body in the world that is supposed protect rights and freedoms, thenw hat they do is essentially render it useless. y dont they ratify the treaty on gobal warming...because they use the most oil and burn the most fossil fuels.
y do they rarely argue about china's blatant human right trangression..... because alot of those trangressions will make men stop being able to wear nikes.
y dont they agree to the treaty about war criminals....because they afraid that it will allow someof thier higher ups to get tired to for war crimes.
so no they not the worse..but economical war and pillaging not better at al than military....and they do both
Here nah... this middle east issue is real tears..... not even we moderators wanna touch it... wayyyyy ......
7 pages and counting.....
carry on.....
Govt moves to evacuate 30 Trinis trapped in war-torn nation
Louis B Homer South Bureau
Wednesday, July 19th 2006
Former national footballer David Nakhid, in a telephone interview with the Express from Lebanon, said that he had not yet heard about the ministry's efforts to evacuate citizens from the country but predicted that it would be done through the British Consul.
Nakhid reported that he and his family were currently living at their second home atop a mountain.
He said that though they were confined, they were trying to make the best of it.
He noted that most areas around his location had been hit by the random bombings.
"There's nowhere peaceful for the moment," he said.
On the prospect of returning to Trinidad, Nakhid said that like everyone else, he would like to go somewhere that had no bombing.
He expressed hope that in the next couple of days there would be a cease-fire or that the attacks of the Israelis would be repelled by the Lebanese army or Hezbollah fighters.
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
Well let me ask you something. Do you have any problems with what groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are doing to mostly innocent people in Israel?
Compare 300 dead Lebanese to 15 Israelis. Compare thousands of Palestinians to a couple hundred Israelis. Who's really doing whom? Who are the aggressors? Had the Israelis not captured Lebanese and Paletinians Hezbollah would not have captured two of their soldiers in the hopes of having a Prisoner exchange. If Israel didn't launch an attack on Southern Lebanon, Hezbollah would not have responded with rockets, okay? And just as the Hamas were created to fight the Israeli occupation of Palestine, so too were Hezbollah created to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
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Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.toppa watch yuh self..u just make out the USA THERE.everythign u said there america is currently guilty of. what about all the prisoners in gitmo eh...steups.Quote
they do what they want. then what they expect...they dont want iran to do what they want, they dont want korea to do what they want and they dont want israel to do what thye want.
it dont work so ..
those that protect(or claim to) protect; and those who will defend authority agaisnt rebellion must not themselves rebel. that is exaclty what the US DOES.
this is the 1st post in this thread...ah feel that's why this thread still in de football section ;DGovt moves to evacuate 30 Trinis trapped in war-torn nation
Louis B Homer South Bureau
Wednesday, July 19th 2006
all I have is 2 questions:
(1)do you think that this thread will beat Ato DVD thread ;D
(2)Dutty yuh popcorn done yet boy?
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
Well let me ask you something. Do you have any problems with what groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are doing to mostly innocent people in Israel?
Compare 300 dead Lebanese to 15 Israelis. Compare thousands of Palestinians to a couple hundred Israelis. Who's really doing whom? Who are the aggressors? Had the Israelis not captured Lebanese and Paletinians Hezbollah would not have captured two of their soldiers in the hopes of having a Prisoner exchange. If Israel didn't launch an attack on Southern Lebanon, Hezbollah would not have responded with rockets, okay? And just as the Hamas were created to fight the Israeli occupation of Palestine, so too were Hezbollah created to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
I take that as a no, since you have justified everything that Hezbollah and Hamas do/done/ will do. You are a littlle misinformed on events. Hamas etc do not want peace with Israel, they want the jews driven out to the sea. That will not happen and the fight will continue long after all of us are gone until they decide they want peace. Let us not forget that hezbollah and Hamas among others also support the terrorist that are willing to bomb all of us in U.S., U.K., Spain, etc. But os what dem poor people in Hezbollah only want to live free lives in their own land right??? Please..
well i knwo i shouldnt talk eh..but what u jus say dey i eh understand..all i know is that u call meh ah fool.. dais cool. but explain y i foolish..because if u think i jus anti american...or pro anybody ...u miss where i say i nuetral on th ept of the israel/mideast topic..Quote
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.toppa watch yuh self..u just make out the USA THERE.everythign u said there america is currently guilty of. what about all the prisoners in gitmo eh...steups.Quote
they do what they want. then what they expect...they dont want iran to do what they want, they dont want korea to do what they want and they dont want israel to do what thye want.
it dont work so ..
those that protect(or claim to) protect; and those who will defend authority agaisnt rebellion must not themselves rebel. that is exaclty what the US DOES.
I know that I made out the US. I love to hear when people talk about "Anti-Americanism" like fools. And the ever so popular "Anti-Semetic" when people don't agree with the Zionist policies like they don't know that the Arabs are semites as well.
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
Well let me ask you something. Do you have any problems with what groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are doing to mostly innocent people in Israel?
Compare 300 dead Lebanese to 15 Israelis. Compare thousands of Palestinians to a couple hundred Israelis. Who's really doing whom? Who are the aggressors? Had the Israelis not captured Lebanese and Paletinians Hezbollah would not have captured two of their soldiers in the hopes of having a Prisoner exchange. If Israel didn't launch an attack on Southern Lebanon, Hezbollah would not have responded with rockets, okay? And just as the Hamas were created to fight the Israeli occupation of Palestine, so too were Hezbollah created to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
Here nah... this middle east issue is real tears..... not even we moderators wanna touch it... wayyyyy ......
7 pages and counting.....
carry on.....
dey frighten!! organic does type like a suicide bomber
well i knwo i shouldnt talk eh..but what u jus say dey i eh understand..all i know is that u call meh ah fool.. dais cool. but explain y i foolish..because if u think i jus anti american...or pro anybody ...u miss where i say i nuetral on th ept of the israel/mideast topic..Quote
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.toppa watch yuh self..u just make out the USA THERE.everythign u said there america is currently guilty of. what about all the prisoners in gitmo eh...steups.Quote
they do what they want. then what they expect...they dont want iran to do what they want, they dont want korea to do what they want and they dont want israel to do what thye want.
it dont work so ..
those that protect(or claim to) protect; and those who will defend authority agaisnt rebellion must not themselves rebel. that is exaclty what the US DOES.
I know that I made out the US. I love to hear when people talk about "Anti-Americanism" like fools. And the ever so popular "Anti-Semetic" when people don't agree with the Zionist policies like they don't know that the Arabs are semites as well.
i willadmit i anti america....and before allyuh say anything ..most of all u guys who defend america living there..i lvied there for 4 yrs and chose to elave. i did my degree there so i not tlaking form a totally ignorant position. and i live in de belly of de beast nyc. all most americans carea about is americans. and the only ppl the american politicians care about si rich americans. if a wrong ..think katrina. nuff said.
U KNWO Y I ANTI AMERICA..CAUSE I AM SICKENLY ALLERGIC TO BULLSHIT. so anybody involved in that ..i dey makin my pt known. this world going to hell in a hand basket. most ppl live fortoday. lol....in 50-60 yrs our grandchildren will have hell to pay. this planet underpressure because of northamerica and eurpoe and thier insatiable appetite. so america is jus the poster chile....is most developed countries policies is thier to protect thier unsustanble life styles instead of really doing somehtign abouyt it. token gesutures nto good enough. we all are screwed.
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
Well let me ask you something. Do you have any problems with what groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are doing to mostly innocent people in Israel?
Compare 300 dead Lebanese to 15 Israelis. Compare thousands of Palestinians to a couple hundred Israelis. Who's really doing whom? Who are the aggressors? Had the Israelis not captured Lebanese and Paletinians Hezbollah would not have captured two of their soldiers in the hopes of having a Prisoner exchange. If Israel didn't launch an attack on Southern Lebanon, Hezbollah would not have responded with rockets, okay? And just as the Hamas were created to fight the Israeli occupation of Palestine, so too were Hezbollah created to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
Question when and why did Israel capture those Prisoners that the hezbollah and hames are fighting for... ????
Question What happened in the months or years after Israels complete I repeat complete withdrawal from lebonon happened for Hezbollah to turn around and kidnap those soldiers????. If you don't know history let us talk present
I only start posting recently but I've been reading this board for years now getting good and bad fottball info. I doh understand how some people could analyze football tactics and technigues, styles etc cyah step back and apply that same sense to a major world issue?? Israel andU.S. is not all bad and Palestinians not all good. I not saying anything about Hezbollah because hopefully nobaody eh dotish enough to stick up for anything they do related to their issues with the Jews [I said this because somebody go come wit- you eh know what you talking about, you eh know Hezbollah does build hospital and school for their people!!].
To address Toppa I am sounding pro israeli because people like you are so anti israeli it doh take much.
Tell me how I'm anti-Israeli? If being opposed to the massacre of innocent civilians, the occupation of nations, the destruction of civilian infratructrure, the violation of International laws and conventions means that I'm anti-Israeli, then by all means, I accept.
Well let me ask you something. Do you have any problems with what groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are doing to mostly innocent people in Israel?
Compare 300 dead Lebanese to 15 Israelis. Compare thousands of Palestinians to a couple hundred Israelis. Who's really doing whom? Who are the aggressors? Had the Israelis not captured Lebanese and Paletinians Hezbollah would not have captured two of their soldiers in the hopes of having a Prisoner exchange. If Israel didn't launch an attack on Southern Lebanon, Hezbollah would not have responded with rockets, okay? And just as the Hamas were created to fight the Israeli occupation of Palestine, so too were Hezbollah created to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
Question when and why did Israel capture those Prisoners that the hezbollah and hames are fighting for... ????
Question What happened in the months or years after Israels complete I repeat complete withdrawal from lebonon happened for Hezbollah to turn around and kidnap those soldiers????. If you don't know history let us talk present
Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
any body ah misout>
toppa u mad.Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
You are completely ignoring the fact that Israel has consistently encroache on Palestinian land and persists occupying it illegally. That is where this all started. If Israel wanted peeace, they'd get the hell out of Palestine unconditionally.
hebollah and hamas mudda so and so.
israel mudda so and so.
america mudda so and so
BUSH mudda so and so
panday, manning, maraj and sharma mudda so and so
any body ah misout>
hebollah and hamas mudda so and so.
israel mudda so and so.
america mudda so and so
BUSH mudda so and so
panday, manning, maraj and sharma mudda so and so
any body ah misout>
Idi Amin
Mazaratti
de horrible servers in royal castle
Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
You are completely ignoring the fact that Israel has consistently encroache on Palestinian land and persists occupying it illegally. That is where this all started. If Israel wanted peeace, they'd get the hell out of Palestine unconditionally.
hahah like u had asked for ah leg and thigh and get 2 pidgeon wing??,,,kikhebollah and hamas mudda so and so.
israel mudda so and so.
america mudda so and so
BUSH mudda so and so
panday, manning, maraj and sharma mudda so and so
any body ah misout>
Idi Amin
Mazaratti
de horrible servers in royal castle
Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
You are completely ignoring the fact that Israel has consistently encroache on Palestinian land and persists occupying it illegally. That is where this all started. If Israel wanted peeace, they'd get the hell out of Palestine unconditionally.
Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
You are completely ignoring the fact that Israel has consistently encroache on Palestinian land and persists occupying it illegally. That is where this all started. If Israel wanted peeace, they'd get the hell out of Palestine unconditionally.
Out of palestine???? Where exactly is that????? Based on Hamas definition that would be off all the current land of Israel. Whcih would put them in the sea.. So I suppose yer right the jews should just pack up and go for a swim right?? Stop the dotish and emotional talk nah and make sensible staements. BTW I'm not ignorant of the encroachment on Palestinians lands etc but I'm writing messages on a message board not a book I cyah cover evrything especailly when it doh matter because you are blind.
You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
:timeout: TOPPAs coments on this topic are now to be ignored.. :bringiton: :loser: :notlistening: :sleepy: :talktothehand:.
Ah still love yuh doh
i disputed what u said...on the large post of the last page.lolYou seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
:timeout: TOPPAs coments on this topic are now to be ignored.. :bringiton: :loser: :notlistening: :sleepy: :talktothehand:.
Ah still love yuh doh
Why don't you put up the facts that you claim to have to dispute what I have said. No one has disputed anything I've said so far.
Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
You are completely ignoring the fact that Israel has consistently encroache on Palestinian land and persists occupying it illegally. That is where this all started. If Israel wanted peeace, they'd get the hell out of Palestine unconditionally.
Out of palestine???? Where exactly is that????? Based on Hamas definition that would be off all the current land of Israel. Whcih would put them in the sea.. So I suppose yer right the jews should just pack up and go for a swim right?? Stop the dotish and emotional talk nah and make sensible staements. BTW I'm not ignorant of the encroachment on Palestinians lands etc but I'm writing messages on a message board not a book I cyah cover evrything especailly when it doh matter because you are blind.
toppa u mad.Look everyone whether it's a country or your personal family will try to help others but your primary goal is the protection and what's best for your family, country etc. Let's deal with the present because the past can provide knowledge but it cannot be changed. Israel moved out of southern lebanon and out of gaza. In each case they have been screwed for those actions. In the end the hezbollah and Hamas do not want peace [yet?] unless peace entails the non existence of the state of Israel. That is an ignorant position and it will not happen, so instead of looking for a middle ground what do they do? Suicide bombs, rockets etc which leads to the oppression of the very people they claim to be trying to help. But people too blind to see that. They believe that everything Hezbollah is doing and done is justified. Well ignorance is bliss!!
You are completely ignoring the fact that Israel has consistently encroache on Palestinian land and persists occupying it illegally. That is where this all started. If Israel wanted peeace, they'd get the hell out of Palestine unconditionally.
the west bank and gaza strip israel annexed after the wars in whcihed thye were invaded..blame iran egyopt and syria for losing the land and leavign de palistinians. israel win de land ina a war dey eh start.
and they keep it as defensive measure..well so they claim. dem arabs country lucky isreal give back the sinai desert...cause dey did lose dat to.lol...
i disputed what u said...on the large post of the last page.lolYou seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
:timeout: TOPPAs coments on this topic are now to be ignored.. :bringiton: :loser: :notlistening: :sleepy: :talktothehand:.
Ah still love yuh doh
Why don't you put up the facts that you claim to have to dispute what I have said. No one has disputed anything I've said so far.
You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
:timeout: TOPPAs coments on this topic are now to be ignored.. :bringiton: :loser: :notlistening: :sleepy: :talktothehand:.
Ah still love yuh doh
Man it late here I going to sleep... Ah gues I will read the rest of post placed here tomorrow and give some posters time tio get their facts right or even to get some type of fact to talk about.
Again :notlistening: TOPPA you are to be ignored untill you read pages 3,4 &5 :talktothehand:
You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
:timeout: TOPPAs coments on this topic are now to be ignored.. :bringiton: :loser: :notlistening: :sleepy: :talktothehand:.
Ah still love yuh doh
Man finally somebody that can make an argument based on fact not emotion, ignorance or both. It is difficult to make a point when people make statements that are so incorrect thus showing their ignorance on the matter. But I guess everybody have an opinion what makes this topic different to football is peope are suffering and dying based on choices they make or that other people [like hezbollah] make for them. Ans some of the views expressed here are echoed by many other misinformed folks.
toppa darling that was after the war. what i spoke about is this... the land that hamas and hezbollah basing the argument over is the gaza stripa dn wst bank. that wasnt int the 47 deal hunnie. israel won that from the numerous warts with its arab neioghbours...dat is y jab jab and friday sayign to relax and calm downl.You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
:timeout: TOPPAs coments on this topic are now to be ignored.. :bringiton: :loser: :notlistening: :sleepy: :talktothehand:.
Ah still love yuh doh
Man finally somebody that can make an argument based on fact not emotion, ignorance or both. It is difficult to make a point when people make statements that are so incorrect thus showing their ignorance on the matter. But I guess everybody have an opinion what makes this topic different to football is peope are suffering and dying based on choices they make or that other people [like hezbollah] make for them. Ans some of the views expressed here are echoed by many other misinformed folks.
So you honestly have no idea that there was an official UN partitian to divide palestine and Israel and stop the conflict between the Arabs and the Jews? You weren't even aware that long before that there was the British mandate of Palestine? Israel are occupying what has been declared Palestinian lands and that is the impetus for what is going on today. You, TheManFriday and Organic should stick to football discussions.
toppa darling that was after the war. what i spoke about is this... the land that hamas and hezbollah basing the argument over is the gaza stripa dn wst bank. that wasnt int the 47 deal hunnie. israel won that from the numerous warts with its arab neioghbours...dat is y jab jab and friday sayign to relax and calm downl.You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
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Ah still love yuh doh
Man finally somebody that can make an argument based on fact not emotion, ignorance or both. It is difficult to make a point when people make statements that are so incorrect thus showing their ignorance on the matter. But I guess everybody have an opinion what makes this topic different to football is peope are suffering and dying based on choices they make or that other people [like hezbollah] make for them. Ans some of the views expressed here are echoed by many other misinformed folks.
So you honestly have no idea that there was an official UN partitian to divide palestine and Israel and stop the conflict between the Arabs and the Jews? You weren't even aware that long before that there was the British mandate of Palestine? Israel are occupying what has been declared Palestinian lands and that is the impetus for what is going on today. You, TheManFriday and Organic should stick to football discussions.
we know bout that otherwise they wouldnt be any israel..
toppa..i done yes....i cyah belive dat si what u said.... friday right i shoulda hush.toppa darling that was after the war. what i spoke about is this... the land that hamas and hezbollah basing the argument over is the gaza stripa dn wst bank. that wasnt int the 47 deal hunnie. israel won that from the numerous warts with its arab neioghbours...dat is y jab jab and friday sayign to relax and calm downl.You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
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Ah still love yuh doh
Man finally somebody that can make an argument based on fact not emotion, ignorance or both. It is difficult to make a point when people make statements that are so incorrect thus showing their ignorance on the matter. But I guess everybody have an opinion what makes this topic different to football is peope are suffering and dying based on choices they make or that other people [like hezbollah] make for them. Ans some of the views expressed here are echoed by many other misinformed folks.
So you honestly have no idea that there was an official UN partitian to divide palestine and Israel and stop the conflict between the Arabs and the Jews? You weren't even aware that long before that there was the British mandate of Palestine? Israel are occupying what has been declared Palestinian lands and that is the impetus for what is going on today. You, TheManFriday and Organic should stick to football discussions.
we know bout that otherwise they wouldnt be any israel..
Well if you all knew that why was there the big fuss when I said that Israel need to stop occupying Palestinian lands?
toppa..i done yes....i cyah belive dat si what u said.... friday right i shoulda hush.toppa darling that was after the war. what i spoke about is this... the land that hamas and hezbollah basing the argument over is the gaza stripa dn wst bank. that wasnt int the 47 deal hunnie. israel won that from the numerous warts with its arab neioghbours...dat is y jab jab and friday sayign to relax and calm downl.You seem to be on their side in this conflict but you arre now showing me that you entered blindly not know what happened. You speak of what you do not know. You talking bout how Israel doing all they stuff and they bad but you don't even know what truely happened ..... I remember mama saying stay out ah grown PPL business .... yuh doh know what yuh talking bout....
I say the same to you.......
You have just showed you true ignorance to that facts here .....
I done talking to you yuh not even worth the debate....
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Ah still love yuh doh
Man finally somebody that can make an argument based on fact not emotion, ignorance or both. It is difficult to make a point when people make statements that are so incorrect thus showing their ignorance on the matter. But I guess everybody have an opinion what makes this topic different to football is peope are suffering and dying based on choices they make or that other people [like hezbollah] make for them. Ans some of the views expressed here are echoed by many other misinformed folks.
So you honestly have no idea that there was an official UN partitian to divide palestine and Israel and stop the conflict between the Arabs and the Jews? You weren't even aware that long before that there was the British mandate of Palestine? Israel are occupying what has been declared Palestinian lands and that is the impetus for what is going on today. You, TheManFriday and Organic should stick to football discussions.
we know bout that otherwise they wouldnt be any israel..
Well if you all knew that why was there the big fuss when I said that Israel need to stop occupying Palestinian lands?
education and common sense seems to be incongurant in many situations
DIAS IT??..IT DONE?? ARREADY??
Three big man ...welL,,,,, two big man peltin arrogance left and right...pin dong de 'poor' gyirl
Yuh mean to say de gyirl spin up with ah history fact roundhouse and knock allyuh tuh f**k out???
Get up!!! allyuh lazy $%@$#@!! & debate...leh we go!!!
ah buy ah case of orville redenbacher,,it cyah go to waste
Big hard back man stickin fingers in dey ears and ketch ah shor-yuu-kenn from ah GURRRRRL!!
;D :devil:
DIAS IT??..IT DONE?? ARREADY??
Three big man ...welL,,,,, two big man peltin arrogance left and right...pin dong de 'poor' gyirl
Yuh mean to say de gyirl spin up with ah history fact roundhouse and knock allyuh tuh f**k out???
Get up!!! allyuh lazy $%@$#@!! & debate...leh we go!!!
ah buy ah case of orville redenbacher,,it cyah go to waste
Big hard back man stickin fingers in dey ears and ketch ah shor-yuu-kenn from ah GURRRRRL!!
;D :devil:
DIAS IT??..IT DONE?? ARREADY??
Three big man ...welL,,,,, two big man peltin arrogance left and right...pin dong de 'poor' gyirl
Yuh mean to say de gyirl spin up with ah history fact roundhouse and knock allyuh tuh f**k out???
Get up!!! allyuh lazy $%@$#@!! & debate...leh we go!!!
ah buy ah case of orville redenbacher,,it cyah go to waste
Big hard back man stickin fingers in dey ears and ketch ah shor-yuu-kenn from ah GURRRRRL!!
;D :devil:
Toppa, yuh could answer reply #37 fuh me? i heard about these UN plans before and always wondered what the UN was doing about them.
DIAS IT??..IT DONE?? ARREADY??
Three big man ...welL,,,,, two big man peltin arrogance left and right...pin dong de 'poor' gyirl
Yuh mean to say de gyirl spin up with ah history fact roundhouse and knock allyuh tuh f**k out???
Get up!!! allyuh lazy $%@$#@!! & debate...leh we go!!!
ah buy ah case of orville redenbacher,,it cyah go to waste
Big hard back man stickin fingers in dey ears and ketch ah shor-yuu-kenn from ah GURRRRRL!!
;D :devil:
And just so you guys know, although as soon as I say this you'd say that you already knew about it, yeah, sure.
When Palestine was partitioned into an Arab state and a Jewish state and the latter declared themselves Israel, they then sought to wage a war in 1948 to occupy 77% of Palestine. It was only after the Palestinians were expelled or fled that Egypt and Jordan occupied some parts of the Palestinian state that never truly came into being because of the war started by Israel, okay? But I'm sure you already knew that.
If this was not serious, it would be real funny.yuh for get Bahá'u'lláh...founder of de bahai faith as far a si understand...their center is in de mideast also.
No amount of educated debate will get everybody to agree .. why take a look at what's been happening for millennia
dey fighting over there since long time
God send Moses and dey did not get it
God send Jesus and dey still eh get it
God den send Mohammad and nothing yet.
I waiting for the next prophet/messiah to solve the problem
And just so you guys know, although as soon as I say this you'd say that you already knew about it, yeah, sure.
When Palestine was partitioned into an Arab state and a Jewish state and the latter declared themselves Israel, they then sought to wage a war in 1948 to occupy 77% of Palestine. It was only after the Palestinians were expelled or fled that Egypt and Jordan occupied some parts of the Palestinian state that never truly came into being because of the war started by Israel, okay? But I'm sure you already knew that.
Israel didnt start the war okay it was the nations that was surrounding it tried to invade Israel and then they defended themselves pushed them out and created a bufffer boundary that was the gaza and West bank.....get yuh facts straight !
If this was not serious, it would be real funny.yuh for get Bahá'u'lláh...founder of de bahai faith as far a si understand...their center is in de mideast also.
No amount of educated debate will get everybody to agree .. why take a look at what's been happening for millennia
dey fighting over there since long time
God send Moses and dey did not get it
God send Jesus and dey still eh get it
God den send Mohammad and nothing yet.
I waiting for the next prophet/messiah to solve the problem
yes man all life precious....circumstances and chance...fate all dat jaz.....If this was not serious, it would be real funny.yuh for get Bahá'u'lláh...founder of de bahai faith as far a si understand...their center is in de mideast also.
No amount of educated debate will get everybody to agree .. why take a look at what's been happening for millennia
dey fighting over there since long time
God send Moses and dey did not get it
God send Jesus and dey still eh get it
God den send Mohammad and nothing yet.
I waiting for the next prophet/messiah to solve the problem
Sorry ..interestingly enough, I am going to a Bahai prayr meeting tomorrow. My neighbour invited me ... her son is in Israel now (he can hear the rockets). I suppose I am going out of courtsey as well that they included us out of respect for us as neighbours and thge fact their son is literally in the line of fire.
And just so you guys know, although as soon as I say this you'd say that you already knew about it, yeah, sure.
When Palestine was partitioned into an Arab state and a Jewish state and the latter declared themselves Israel, they then sought to wage a war in 1948 to occupy 77% of Palestine. It was only after the Palestinians were expelled or fled that Egypt and Jordan occupied some parts of the Palestinian state that never truly came into being because of the war started by Israel, okay? But I'm sure you already knew that.
Israel didnt start the war okay it was the nations that was surrounding it tried to invade Israel and then they defended themselves pushed them out and created a bufffer boundary that was the gaza and West bank.....get yuh facts straight !
No, you get YOUR facts straight. The Arab nations only intervened afterwards and even then they were initially reluctant, but dey had buy de fight none the less. But I guess people will always interpret things in ways that will suit them and they'll always find things to prove what they agree with so it really doesn't matter. The Palestinians and the Israelis had their skirmishes from the onset, I'm not going to deny that, but what is going on today is largely due to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine. Can you deny it?
DIAS IT??..IT DONE?? ARREADY??
Three big man ...welL,,,,, two big man peltin arrogance left and right...pin dong de 'poor' gyirl
Yuh mean to say de gyirl spin up with ah history fact roundhouse and knock allyuh tuh f**k out???
Get up!!! allyuh lazy $%@$#@!! & debate...leh we go!!!
ah buy ah case of orville redenbacher,,it cyah go to waste
Big hard back man stickin fingers in dey ears and ketch ah shor-yuu-kenn from ah GURRRRRL!!
;D :devil:
DIAS IT??..IT DONE?? ARREADY??
Three big man ...welL,,,,, two big man peltin arrogance left and right...pin dong de 'poor' gyirl
Yuh mean to say de gyirl spin up with ah history fact roundhouse and knock allyuh tuh f**k out???
Get up!!! allyuh lazy $%@$#@!! & debate...leh we go!!!
ah buy ah case of orville redenbacher,,it cyah go to waste
Big hard back man stickin fingers in dey ears and ketch ah shor-yuu-kenn from ah GURRRRRL!!
;D :devil:
I was doing some work online and say lemme see if dis gurl still chatting foolishness and I see she tire out ThemanFriday and Organic and I eh go lie I real tired. Then I see your post. You is a setup man you eh getting me in dat. :rotfl: I go be real quiet tomorrow :devil:
:applause: :applause: :applause:And just so you guys know, although as soon as I say this you'd say that you already knew about it, yeah, sure.
When Palestine was partitioned into an Arab state and a Jewish state and the latter declared themselves Israel, they then sought to wage a war in 1948 to occupy 77% of Palestine. It was only after the Palestinians were expelled or fled that Egypt and Jordan occupied some parts of the Palestinian state that never truly came into being because of the war started by Israel, okay? But I'm sure you already knew that.
Israel didnt start the war okay it was the nations that was surrounding it tried to invade Israel and then they defended themselves pushed them out and created a bufffer boundary that was the gaza and West bank.....get yuh facts straight !
If you are saying this is Israels fault for this conflict currently, why is the Arab league of Nations unanamously is supporting Isrrael and not Lebanon or Hamas
bago where you get that info from boy?
If you are saying this is Israels fault for this conflict currently, why is the Arab league of Nations unanamously is supporting Isrrael and not Lebanon or Hamas
bago where you get that info from boy?
Precher wait nah Ah wasn't trying to go there but thanks ;D
Any how Ricky you apparently doh have a tv or radio in you neighbourhood so I forgive you fuh dat question.......
I up and at work now... I must say though I am very glad for your post but they would never understand the war between the 2 brothers.... I took them back as far back as history could take them without using bible but they doh wann understand maybe dat is what dey need. I just hope it doh turn into ah religious battle here on de thread.....
sorry ah reach late...but ah have to give my 5 cents.....
First of all we need to pray for the people over there, that God would have mercy in this time.
Secondly all the Israel bashers be careful. They are God's chosen people. God chose to bring salvation to the Jew first and then to the
Gentile (You and me). God says concerning Israel..."I will bless them that bless you and curse them them curse you" So watch allyuh mouth.
Thirdly, Britian didn't make Israel by giving them land. Their land was taken from them, that's how they ended up all over the world. The reinstatement of Israel as a nation was simply prophesy being fulfilled.
Fourthly, why doesn't God intervene on a global scale to stop wars and abortions? The answer is in Gen.1:26. God gave us power over this planet, we can choose good or evil. He does intervene on a personal level to help clarify decisions that would affect others but we still choose for ourself.
As it relates to why things are the way they are with Israel and arabian nations? The answer in the bible read Gen:16. paying specific attention to verse 11. Short version: God tell Abraham he getting a son at 100. He wife didn't believe so she let Abs do a ting with the servant name Hagar. She get pregnant with Ishmael. Abs wife then put she out ah the house. Ads wife Sarah got pregenat like the Lord said with Isaac. Isaac got the inheritance and Ishmael got bitter and felt robbed. Sound familiar? The message here is, don't doubt God and only help when asked. Keep yuh tail quiet
This is not the end of the world...
1. Once they fighting the world will continue. When they not fighting then WATCH OUT!!!! "For when they say peace and safety then comes SUDDEN destruction"
2. The next thing to happen on the prophetic calendar is the coming of the Lord in the sky The Rapture. This is when the Lord come to take his people and Holy Spirit from this planet. If you think it bad now imagine people with no more restraint at all.
My hope as we see this end time situation with Israel and the Arab nations is that all allyuh fellas give allyuh hearts to the Lord Jesus Christ. Presently, to escape the troubles of this world's end is free. Jesus already paid for us with his life. After the Rapture you'll have to pay for yourself with your own life or serve the beast.
Pray for your countries, pray for your governments and pray for your children. It's God's will that all men be saved but we have free will.
Hello all,apparently you didn't read that book either. And how do you expect me to buy a book online yesterday and have it today...IDIOT....
Did you all buy that book I recommended ?
Because I see people still making up stuff !
Man friday I already told you cannot use the jewsih expulsion in 70 AD as a reason otherwise G Bush would have to get his hick trailer park ass back to yorkshire.
In additon please read on how British Palestine became Israel ............yes by terroism.
Israeli guerilla groups bombed any place where british civilans (not army) gathered. Eventually with the loss of life Britain wanted to get the hell out of there ASAP, especially as they were not interested in losing lives for a piece of desert.
Hello all,
Did you all buy that book I recommended ?
Because I see people still making up stuff !
Man friday I already told you cannot use the jewsih expulsion in 70 AD as a reason otherwise G Bush would have to get his hick trailer park ass back to yorkshire.
In additon please read on how British Palestine became Israel ............yes by terroism.
Israeli guerilla groups bombed any place where british civilans (not army) gathered. Eventually with the loss of life Britain wanted to get the hell out of there ASAP, especially as they were not interested in losing lives for a piece of desert.
If this was not serious, it would be real funny.yeah it go be the Anti-Christ :devil:
No amount of educated debate will get everybody to agree .. why take a look at what's been happening for millennia
dey fighting over there since long time
God send Moses and dey did not get it
God send Jesus and dey still eh get it
God den send Mohammad and nothing yet.
I waiting for the next prophet/messiah to solve the problem
Before anyone adds to this Thread this is a manditory QUESTION
Question: Hypothetically, If the American Indian decide to uprise and reclaim the Americas... who will you support? answer this and I will know where you stand.. now this if if they have the same ammunition and fighting power as the current regime...
sorry ah reach late...but ah have to give my 5 cents.....eh boy ...it use to be 2 cents ... This post was a bargoon to get 5 cents instead of 2 cents worth.
Before anyone adds to this Thread this is a manditory QUESTION
Question: Hypothetically, If the American Indian decide to uprise and reclaim the Americas... who will you support? answer this and I will know where you stand.. now this if if they have the same ammunition and fighting power as the current regime...
Before anyone adds to this Thread this is a manditory QUESTION
Question: Hypothetically, If the American Indian decide to uprise and reclaim the Americas... who will you support? answer this and I will know where you stand.. now this if if they have the same ammunition and fighting power as the current regime...
The American Indians are too few in number to reclaim all of America.
They have been given "reservations" where I think even some of the laws might be slightly different (not sure). But they not independent countries or anything.
That part about having the same fighting power is real hard to imagine.
I could see them getting a piece of land somewhere...maybe by a border or something but it would take some war to get that.
But this question is a real stretch with that same fighting power bit.
Allyuh give we some maps with the timelines nah!!
I will look but this so heated I sure people have all kinda different ting out there.
Before anyone adds to this Thread this is a manditory QUESTIONhypothethically? its almost impossible to answer that question. what if all black ppl decided to be repatriated to africa? and israel is not the jews home land alone eh. jews have been merchants and gypys of a sort for hundreds of years. they ahve been in europe all over. and the muslims could argue mr preacher that they are gods chosen people. belief aside the main problems with man when it comes to religion is that every body figure they know what god wants and they have the best interpretation of books "MEN" right.
Question: Hypothetically, If the American Indian decide to uprise and reclaim the Americas... who will you support? answer this and I will know where you stand.. now this if if they have the same ammunition and fighting power as the current regime...
Before anyone adds to this Thread this is a manditory QUESTIONFriday ... I answered your question. I am kinda curious because you feel the answer to this questions will let you know where I stand. So where do you think I stand based on my answer.
Question: Hypothetically, If the American Indian decide to uprise and reclaim the Americas... who will you support? answer this and I will know where you stand.. now this if if they have the same ammunition and fighting power as the current regime...
Please read the question it is a what if...... WHO would you support? forget all that mombo you talking answer de question
just in case u was talking to me ;D
I don't consider that supporting either side but if you want then call it supporting the AI.
I know all de what ifs here but yuh still eh answer de question stop analysing abd answer
I was posting while you were ignore that post. he types faster than me ;Djust in case u was talking to me ;D
I don't consider that supporting either side but if you want then call it supporting the AI.
I base my argue ment on history even before the star david flag.... I have read the bible but also the korran and the RED BOOK how ever you spell it has had great history for me to read on. Library and so on. I I can not give Hezbollah right for what they did. Lebanon suffers because of the few. But something must be done... something had to be done....
Could we agree they both have rightful claim to some lands?
And is a matter of justly allocating those lands so that both can function as soverign states?
We in modern times so I am guessing the UN would be the correct body to adjudicate though it was rightly pointed out they are not an actual authority.
That is why I asking for maps. Even if dem two Hs want to drive them all the way out doh mean the borders shouldn't be at least recognized.
I believe is the Lebanese army fault for what happening. They have a militant group in their country firing into another country and they not doing anything about it. That is like Abu set up shop on Chacachacare to fight Venezuela and we just leave him dere. Cah work....dey bound to fire back and they have a right to fire back at Mucurapo road and anywhere else he have his gangs.
okay I agree something had to be done but now we have the situation that because of two kidnapped soldiers (not dead as far as we know)
we have 29 dead Israelis (14 civilains) and 330 dead Lebanese (mostly civilian). I cannot see how this makes sense ! I am sure the two captured soldiers would not have wanted to see all these deaths because of them.
okay I agree something had to be done but now we have the situation that because of two kidnapped soldiers (not dead as far as we know)
we have 29 dead Israelis (14 civilains) and 330 dead Lebanese (mostly civilian). I cannot see how this makes sense ! I am sure the two captured soldiers would not have wanted to see all these deaths because of them.
Yes they all had warnings of bombings that the only ones that should stay is fighters that want to battle ;D doh say it ah know..... ISrael evacuated while the Lebanese Gov,t left their PPL there
And just so you guys know, although as soon as I say this you'd say that you already knew about it, yeah, sure.
When Palestine was partitioned into an Arab state and a Jewish state and the latter declared themselves Israel, they then sought to wage a war in 1948 to occupy 77% of Palestine. It was only after the Palestinians were expelled or fled that Egypt and Jordan occupied some parts of the Palestinian state that never truly came into being because of the war started by Israel, okay? But I'm sure you already knew that.
Israel didnt start the war okay it was the nations that was surrounding it tried to invade Israel and then they defended themselves pushed them out and created a bufffer boundary that was the gaza and West bank.....get yuh facts straight !
No, you get YOUR facts straight. The Arab nations only intervened afterwards and even then they were initially reluctant, but dey had buy de fight none the less. But I guess people will always interpret things in ways that will suit them and they'll always find things to prove what they agree with so it really doesn't matter. The Palestinians and the Israelis had their skirmishes from the onset, I'm not going to deny that, but what is going on today is largely due to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine. Can you deny it?
If you are saying this is Israels fault for this conflict currently, why is the Arab league of Nations unanamously is supporting Isrrael and not Lebanon or Hamas ???
And just so you guys know, although as soon as I say this you'd say that you already knew about it, yeah, sure.
When Palestine was partitioned into an Arab state and a Jewish state and the latter declared themselves Israel, they then sought to wage a war in 1948 to occupy 77% of Palestine. It was only after the Palestinians were expelled or fled that Egypt and Jordan occupied some parts of the Palestinian state that never truly came into being because of the war started by Israel, okay? But I'm sure you already knew that.
Israel didnt start the war okay it was the nations that was surrounding it tried to invade Israel and then they defended themselves pushed them out and created a bufffer boundary that was the gaza and West bank.....get yuh facts straight !
No, you get YOUR facts straight. The Arab nations only intervened afterwards and even then they were initially reluctant, but dey had buy de fight none the less. But I guess people will always interpret things in ways that will suit them and they'll always find things to prove what they agree with so it really doesn't matter. The Palestinians and the Israelis had their skirmishes from the onset, I'm not going to deny that, but what is going on today is largely due to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine. Can you deny it?
If you are saying this is Israels fault for this conflict currently, why is the Arab league of Nations unanamously is supporting Isrrael and not Lebanon or Hamas ???
Are you stupid? The Arab nations were the ones who were trying to force the UN to interneve but the US VETOED the resolution.
what is blatantly missing from these maps is the time when Moses led the people out of Egypt across the red sea. Maybe the UN should re-instate those boundaries.lmao.......u liek thign eh
The Man Friday you just being an idiot. What, you don't like to be proven wrong by an 18 yr old girl?
The Man Friday you just being an idiot. What, you don't like to be proven wrong by an 18 yr old girl?but wait,,Toppa wuh de ass..it mus be 7 o clock a.m. in arizona,,yuh get out yuh bed lookin for war?? yuh brush yuh teet yet??
no body eh prove nuttin on this thread
YES I INCLUDED...but allyuh eh makin sense cause everyone claiming to be more or less nuetral....but fighting die hard on one pt..lol...allyuh ahppy yes..look toppa went and brig an article....for allyuh like if that proves anythign... anybody coudla write that. i wonder if she use to play moral or hop sciotch wiht that persona dn could vouch for them. toppa i hear manning have 3 outside chidlren with ah chindian from rio.no body eh prove nuttin on this thread
Especially YOU ;D
YES I INCLUDED...but allyuh eh makin sense cause everyone claiming to be more or less nuetral....but fighting die hard on one pt..lol...allyuh ahppy yes..look toppa went and brig an article....for allyuh like if that proves anythign... anybody coudla write that. i wonder if she use to play moral or hop sciotch wiht that persona dn could vouch for them. toppa i hear manning have 3 outside chidlren with ah chindian from rio.no body eh prove nuttin on this thread
Especially YOU ;D
Arite...so what is the occupied territory they talking about.
I doh suppose that is the extra land from the 1947 map?
Wait, u sure about that.
The portion of the 1947 Map you posted that says "self rule", that's Palestine. Hope you noticed how it just kept getting smaller and smaller as the yrs went by.
Wait, u sure about that.
The portion of the 1947 Map you posted that says "self rule", that's Palestine. Hope you noticed how it just kept getting smaller and smaller as the yrs went by.
Do the Israeli's recognize that map as the true map and the parts they on as occupied territory?
Can the same be said for the author.
I asking cuz u hear or read about occupied territory and people is be talking about different things.
no body eh prove nuttin on this thread...only allyuh liek to argue and like ole talk......allyuh arguing over issues that no one else cyah solve..and allyuh have so much feelings...take it to trini..lets dicusss...dey nah eh eh
steups...
no body eh prove nuttin on this thread...only allyuh liek to argue and like ole talk......allyuh arguing over issues that no one else cyah solve..and allyuh have so much feelings...take it to trini..lets dicusss...dey nah eh eh
steups...
Organic,
I have to disagree with your comment about "no body eh prove nuttin.."
It is quite clear that what they have proved is that all the hypotheses cannot be proven. That in itself is a valid proof.
stand corrected...but u think toppa will understand what u mean..or jus continue..lolno body eh prove nuttin on this thread...only allyuh liek to argue and like ole talk......allyuh arguing over issues that no one else cyah solve..and allyuh have so much feelings...take it to trini..lets dicusss...dey nah eh eh
steups...
Organic,
I have to disagree with your comment about "no body eh prove nuttin.."
It is quite clear that what they have proved is that all the hypotheses cannot be proven. That in itself is a valid proof.
no body eh prove nuttin on this thread...only allyuh liek to argue and like ole talk......allyuh arguing over issues that no one else cyah solve..and allyuh have so much feelings...take it to trini..lets dicusss...dey nah eh eh
steups...
Organic,
I have to disagree with your comment about "no body eh prove nuttin.."
It is quite clear that what they have proved is that all the hypotheses cannot be proven. That in itself is a valid proof.
Ay!! wha kinda big brain ting is dat?? look,,, for dunce man like me on de forum stop dem setta riddles yuh hear
http://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
stand corrected...but u think toppa will understand what u mean..or jus continue..lolno body eh prove nuttin on this thread...only allyuh liek to argue and like ole talk......allyuh arguing over issues that no one else cyah solve..and allyuh have so much feelings...take it to trini..lets dicusss...dey nah eh eh
steups...
Organic,
I have to disagree with your comment about "no body eh prove nuttin.."
It is quite clear that what they have proved is that all the hypotheses cannot be proven. That in itself is a valid proof.
she have real staying power...they does realys ya ah woman biggest ;D eapon is she..am.....mouth
http://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
Toppa, alexander cockburn is pretty far out on the left. one source is not enough to present a balanced picture of this problem. even one book is not enough. so far your sources seem to be primarily left of centre. could you tell me a few right of centre/conservative writers you've read?
stand corrected...but u think toppa will understand what u mean..or jus continue..lolno body eh prove nuttin on this thread...only allyuh liek to argue and like ole talk......allyuh arguing over issues that no one else cyah solve..and allyuh have so much feelings...take it to trini..lets dicusss...dey nah eh eh
steups...
Organic,
I have to disagree with your comment about "no body eh prove nuttin.."
It is quite clear that what they have proved is that all the hypotheses cannot be proven. That in itself is a valid proof.
she have real staying power...they does realys ya ah woman biggest ;D eapon is she..am.....mouth
OK ... is Toppa turn now.
Organic.
Which map is the right map.
I eh going into who justified for bombing who on this.
I just want to know which map u believe shows the State of Palestine
fox...dat along with msn nbc is an american republican propaganda machine...steups...de best news ind e states is daily show with john stewarthttp://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
Toppa, alexander cockburn is pretty far out on the left. one source is not enough to present a balanced picture of this problem. even one book is not enough. so far your sources seem to be primarily left of centre. could you tell me a few right of centre/conservative writers you've read?
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
The Man Friday you just being an idiot. What, you don't like to be proven wrong by an 18 yr old girl?
All yuh have to do is read what the map says yuh know.
The Man Friday you just being an idiot. What, you don't like to be proven wrong by an 18 yr old girl?
Ah boy 18?? That explains a lot. BTW Dutty call it arrogance if yer want, I prefer someone who takes the time to base statements on effort made to gain knowledge not just chat for chatting sake.
my recommendation.u guys look for your info..from academic insitutions...raher than de news reports...especiallyd emaps....i catn say i know which map is totallya ccurate i will eb pulling shit form meh ass...and i liked ot be informed..so i really cant say dcs....but i do know..taking anything from contemporary media..is not fact tainted opnion.... its opnion tainted by fact....
and allyuh realy arguing with toppa look wey sh eliving..arizona.....wey allyuh fele most ha de republican vote does come from..lol.. she eh knwo f de NSA reading she emails..she hadda be arguing she pt..allyuh eh wah she get deported now...do u ;D
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
fox...dat along with msn nbc is an american republican propaganda machine...steups...de best news ind e states is daily show with john stewarthttp://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
Toppa, alexander cockburn is pretty far out on the left. one source is not enough to present a balanced picture of this problem. even one book is not enough. so far your sources seem to be primarily left of centre. could you tell me a few right of centre/conservative writers you've read?
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
my recommendation.u guys look for your info..from academic insitutions...raher than de news reports...especiallyd emaps....i catn say i know which map is totallya ccurate i will eb pulling shit form meh ass...and i liked ot be informed..so i really cant say dcs....but i do know..taking anything from contemporary media..is not fact tainted opnion.... its opnion tainted by fact....
The first map was from Memorial University of Newfoundland in Canada.
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
oh gosh girl you lose all credibility dey
man i doh miss dat for nuttin..i doe stsill wonder y ppl does bother to accpet interviews with ed helms and thing......ealier this week it had one about ha man who was complaning about to much parades..he say dat "dem pp''..blacks have more rights than everybody else..real kicks yesfox...dat along with msn nbc is an american republican propaganda machine...steups...de best news ind e states is daily show with john stewarthttp://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
Toppa, alexander cockburn is pretty far out on the left. one source is not enough to present a balanced picture of this problem. even one book is not enough. so far your sources seem to be primarily left of centre. could you tell me a few right of centre/conservative writers you've read?
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
yuh watch him last night? I miss the first 15 min .. saw the interview with Giamatti though
my recommendation.u guys look for your info..from academic insitutions...raher than de news reports...especiallyd emaps....i catn say i know which map is totallya ccurate i will eb pulling shit form meh ass...and i liked ot be informed..so i really cant say dcs....but i do know..taking anything from contemporary media..is not fact tainted opnion.... its opnion tainted by fact....
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
oh gosh girl you lose all credibility dey
Yuh asked for Right Wing side and ah told you to watch Fox News. All sarcasm is lost on the internet boy. maybe they should make a smiley for it. I was saying to ignore the emtional parts of the article but it is based on fact.
my recommendation.u guys look for your info..from academic insitutions...raher than de news reports...especiallyd emaps....i catn say i know which map is totallya ccurate i will eb pulling shit form meh ass...and i liked ot be informed..so i really cant say dcs....but i do know..taking anything from contemporary media..is not fact tainted opnion.... its opnion tainted by fact....
Good point but even some academic institutions have a bias so I would take it a step further and say get your news from as many sources as possible to help filter out the bias. Regardless of the past the current reality is somebody have to ease up and make concessions for peace now. I would not say the palestinians are not willing they probably are but the groups that control things [e.g. Hamas, Islamic Jihad etc] are making it almost impossible for the people to live in peace.
remeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
remeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
well depending on your answer...i want to prove to dem fellas..dat dey wasting they time...lol.....u ah leftist...lol. dais all..so answer...if u dare :Premeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
What does that have to do with anything?
http://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
Toppa, alexander cockburn is pretty far out on the left. one source is not enough to present a balanced picture of this problem. even one book is not enough. so far your sources seem to be primarily left of centre. could you tell me a few right of centre/conservative writers you've read?
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
remeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
remeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
http://www.counterpunch.org/Cockburn07212006.html
Toppa, alexander cockburn is pretty far out on the left. one source is not enough to present a balanced picture of this problem. even one book is not enough. so far your sources seem to be primarily left of centre. could you tell me a few right of centre/conservative writers you've read?
Watch Fox News. But ignore the emotinal side of the article, everything else is fact.
Toppa, yuh could recommend a journal written by people that actually living in the area in question?
remeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
what de hell. u going on a next tangent. U trying to make this thread 25 pages long?
Toppa....the 2nd map has something for 2005 that is "Internationally Recognized" that is different from the 1947 map.
remeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
what de hell. u going on a next tangent. U trying to make this thread 25 pages long?
Toppa....the 2nd map has something for 2005 that is "Internationally Recognized" that is different from the 1947 map.
well depending on your answer...i want to prove to dem fellas..dat dey wasting they time...lol.....u ah leftist...lol. dais all..so answer...if u dare :Premeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
What does that have to do with anything?
agasint u say..and iffy..u might be gettign ah phone call form yuh beloved nsa soon..lolwell depending on your answer...i want to prove to dem fellas..dat dey wasting they time...lol.....u ah leftist...lol. dais all..so answer...if u dare :Premeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
What does that have to do with anything?
This is the most irrelevant bullshit but I'm against abortion and iffy about stem-cell research. So what's your point?
agasint u say..and iffy..u might be gettign ah phone call form yuh beloved nsa soon..lolwell depending on your answer...i want to prove to dem fellas..dat dey wasting they time...lol.....u ah leftist...lol. dais all..so answer...if u dare :Premeber guys ally6uh banging allyuh head agasint a wall..arizona....lemme ask u somethign toppa...u for or agsaint abortion and stem cell research???
What does that have to do with anything?
This is the most irrelevant bullshit but I'm against abortion and iffy about stem-cell research. So what's your point?
lol..last time someone asked me what is my pt scarstically was meh 17yr old bro....
lord god..i woulda perfer u being scarstic...cause den pppl go want to eb callign u slow....nah is not dat..maybe is juc caus eu didnt notice when i type it sorry eh.......
lord god..i woulda perfer u being scarstic...cause den pppl go want to eb callign u slow....nah is not dat..maybe is juc caus eu didnt notice when i type it sorry eh.......
You wanted me to say that I was for abortion and stem-cell research to show that I was a so-called leftist (whatever that's supposed to mean; I was not socialised in North America) and negate my stance but now, you don't have a point but you persist. Just call it a day, okay?
dais because he mor eor less he unbiased..if fire for republican, democrat any one...lol any country ..any...it eh matterfox...dat along with msn nbc is an american republican propaganda machine...steups...de best news ind e states is daily show with john stewartQuoteQuote
yuh watch him last night? I miss the first 15 min .. saw the interview with Giamatti thoughman i doh miss dat for nuttin..i doe stsill wonder y ppl does bother to accpet interviews with ed helms and thing......ealier this week it had one about ha man who was complaning about to much parades..he say dat "dem pp''..blacks have more rights than everybody else..real kicks yesQuoteapparently, the dauly show is the primary source of politiacl news for the agegroup 20 to 35. I older that that, but i watch it too. About your point that ppl read views that are similar to their own eprsonal beliefs must be tru because i tend to agree with jon 95% of the time. He too funny.Quote
dais because he mor eor less he unbiased..if fire for republican, democrat any one...lol any country ..any...it eh matterfox...dat along with msn nbc is an american republican propaganda machine...steups...de best news ind e states is daily show with john stewartQuoteQuote
yuh watch him last night? I miss the first 15 min .. saw the interview with Giamatti thoughman i doh miss dat for nuttin..i doe stsill wonder y ppl does bother to accpet interviews with ed helms and thing......ealier this week it had one about ha man who was complaning about to much parades..he say dat "dem pp''..blacks have more rights than everybody else..real kicks yesQuoteapparently, the dauly show is the primary source of politiacl news for the agegroup 20 to 35. I older that that, but i watch it too. About your point that ppl read views that are similar to their own eprsonal beliefs must be tru because i tend to agree with jon 95% of the time. He too funny.Quote
lord fiesty got to love..it...hm where else can i hii a nerve...am..lord god..i woulda perfer u being scarstic...cause den pppl go want to eb callign u slow....nah is not dat..maybe is juc caus eu didnt notice when i type it sorry eh.......
You wanted me to say that I was for abortion and stem-cell research to show that I was a so-called leftist (whatever that's supposed to mean; I was not socialised in North America) and negate my stance but now, you don't have a point but you persist. Just call it a day, okay?
yes he is kicks..dta raises a good pt..toppa do u agree wiht steven colbert opnions?..loldais because he mor eor less he unbiased..if fire for republican, democrat any one...lol any country ..any...it eh matterfox...dat along with msn nbc is an american republican propaganda machine...steups...de best news ind e states is daily show with john stewartQuoteQuote
yuh watch him last night? I miss the first 15 min .. saw the interview with Giamatti thoughman i doh miss dat for nuttin..i doe stsill wonder y ppl does bother to accpet interviews with ed helms and thing......ealier this week it had one about ha man who was complaning about to much parades..he say dat "dem pp''..blacks have more rights than everybody else..real kicks yesQuoteapparently, the dauly show is the primary source of politiacl news for the agegroup 20 to 35. I older that that, but i watch it too. About your point that ppl read views that are similar to their own eprsonal beliefs must be tru because i tend to agree with jon 95% of the time. He too funny.Quote
yuh watch the colbert report too?
mmmm,,,leh we go for 20 pages today.........anybody want?
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so y it cyah be toppa like me...buh a a
Organic...yuh like Toppa?
Is some kinda Tobago love ting going on.
Allyuh not even talking bout the topic anymore.
It still not clear which map each country recognizes. (I should say it not clear ALLYUH KNOW which map each country recognizes)
I know it not a cut and dry issue but finding out what they official position is shudn't be that hard. (ent allyuh supposedly knowledgeable and well read).
Organic done say he didn't know (despite multiple posts about nothing :devil:)
Is it safe to say the Palestinian and Israeli government both recognize the 2005 "Internaltional Consensus" map as the official one.
It is from the second map I posted.
http://www.americantaskforce.org/palestine_map.gif
was dat on the plate?
choka on the egg ? salt fish?
dim sum?
sum kinda meatballs?
pork ? ah hope dat is not pork - not appropriate for dis thread
a red ting - is that a whole pepper?
sliced turkey?
hmmm ...yuh have a van houten cup so the cofee must be good. But yuh have a whole stack of cups in the back --- yuh saving the empty cups to take home?
waz dat tube next to the plate - some vasoline?
a wooden pencil -- so yuh not a technical guy - must be a bean counter but no adding mx in sight
ah going to use my image enhancer, digital analyzer OCR reader, model Mark V to convert the documents on you desk to text to se what yuh really tinh. The NSA and CSIS might be eavesdropping so I have to be careful.
Hm, the mods finally notice this thread gone way past Nakid stranded in Lebanon!
Nah dese wantons have beef
de KY slip?..check mih name and come again :devil:
With regard to the evacuees...boy I see everybody complain oui...de peoplle tired ,,frustrated and in shock
On 'Nightline' de odder night ah see one lebanese fellah..but like he grow up in de states REAL lamabaste george bush on camera ...lawd de man was blue vex,,ah say to mihself "dais one fellah gettin audited by de IRS every year from now on"
De funny part is ..we make so much noise on harper about how long he take to evacuate and ah now read de australian PM aksin canada for help to evacuate their citizens
EVERYBODY get ketch off guard...like was only de french was expecting dem israelis to leggo dat much heat from de air in trute
yuh forget de dingy..dat tie up on de docks in late ontarioNah dese wantons have beef
de KY slip?..check mih name and come again :devil:
With regard to the evacuees...boy I see everybody complain oui...de peoplle tired ,,frustrated and in shock
On 'Nightline' de odder night ah see one lebanese fellah..but like he grow up in de states REAL lamabaste george bush on camera ...lawd de man was blue vex,,ah say to mihself "dais one fellah gettin audited by de IRS every year from now on"
De funny part is ..we make so much noise on harper about how long he take to evacuate and ah now read de australian PM aksin canada for help to evacuate their citizens
EVERYBODY get ketch off guard...like was only de french was expecting dem israelis to leggo dat much heat from de air in trute
I cyar comprehend the situation ... so I trying not to be too judgemental. But i tink we sometimes expect too much from our governments. How can we expect Foreign Affairs (for the Canadian) to suddenly mobolize resources to evacuate 40,000 ppl. Expecially since Canada doh have a navy (except for 2 or 3 kayaks, a canoe, a skidoo, a old frigate and a leaking submarine). The government had to negotiate to lease ships, get them to Beruit, jostle with everybody else to get to port, load the ppl and leave.
But everybody still complaining abouyt the lack of organization.
Wah ....is a war!!!
yuh forget de dingy..dat tie up on de docks in late ontarioNah dese wantons have beef
de KY slip?..check mih name and come again :devil:
With regard to the evacuees...boy I see everybody complain oui...de peoplle tired ,,frustrated and in shock
On 'Nightline' de odder night ah see one lebanese fellah..but like he grow up in de states REAL lamabaste george bush on camera ...lawd de man was blue vex,,ah say to mihself "dais one fellah gettin audited by de IRS every year from now on"
De funny part is ..we make so much noise on harper about how long he take to evacuate and ah now read de australian PM aksin canada for help to evacuate their citizens
EVERYBODY get ketch off guard...like was only de french was expecting dem israelis to leggo dat much heat from de air in trute
I cyar comprehend the situation ... so I trying not to be too judgemental. But i tink we sometimes expect too much from our governments. How can we expect Foreign Affairs (for the Canadian) to suddenly mobolize resources to evacuate 40,000 ppl. Expecially since Canada doh have a navy (except for 2 or 3 kayaks, a canoe, a skidoo, a old frigate and a leaking submarine). The government had to negotiate to lease ships, get them to Beruit, jostle with everybody else to get to port, load the ppl and leave.
But everybody still complaining abouyt the lack of organization.
Wah ....is a war!!!
Nah dese wantons have beef
de KY slip?..check mih name and come again :devil:
With regard to the evacuees...boy I see everybody complain oui...de peoplle tired ,,frustrated and in shock
On 'Nightline' de odder night ah see one lebanese fellah..but like he grow up in de states REAL lamabaste george bush on camera ...lawd de man was blue vex,,ah say to mihself "dais one fellah gettin audited by de IRS every year from now on"
De funny part is ..we make so much noise on harper about how long he take to evacuate and ah now read de australian PM aksin canada for help to evacuate their citizens
EVERYBODY get ketch off guard...like was only de french was expecting dem israelis to leggo dat much heat from de air in trute
I cyar comprehend the situation ... so I trying not to be too judgemental. But i tink we sometimes expect too much from our governments. How can we expect Foreign Affairs (for the Canadian) to suddenly mobolize resources to evacuate 40,000 ppl. Expecially since Canada doh have a navy (except for 2 or 3 kayaks, a canoe, a skidoo, a old frigate and a leaking submarine). The government had to negotiate to lease ships, get them to Beruit, jostle with everybody else to get to port, load the ppl and leave.
But everybody still complaining abouyt the lack of organization.
Wah ....is a war!!!
True dat, but you doh tink wherever you go you accept some responsibility?? If you move to an area where it is known to flood you vex if I seem [in your mind] to be taking too long to bring you a boat when flood happen. Right now govts scrambling because of the distance, safety concerns and number of people to be evacuted. In Katrina den U.S. real lapse but in this case I think is a little different.
True dat, but you doh tink wherever you go you accept some responsibility?? If you move to an area where it is known to flood you vex if I seem [in your mind] to be taking too long to bring you a boat when flood happen. Right now govts scrambling because of the distance, safety concerns and number of people to be evacuted. In Katrina den U.S. real lapse but in this case I think is a little different.
Actually, ah agree wid you. I was disagreeing with DCS re: the gov lack of efficiency
If ppl had taken the time to check the travel advisory, dey would have seen that south lebanon was a hot spot and to travel at your own risk.
I tink the Cdn govenment is acting as best as possible given the circumstances (and I am not a big Harper fan).
Horse...just a suggestion
I have a strong stomach and it wont bother me...but you really should put some sort of warning/disclaimer on that...its not for everybody eyes despite the intent
Sorry guys ...so right man. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
If that web site was intended to gain my sympathy ... it did not. What I saw was an attempt to use these images (images of tragedy beyond my comprehension) to further a political agenda. Dey even asking for donations.
Leh me ask allyuh a question. If war so bad, why does it continue? Well leh me answer it ... because somebody/organization stands to gain from it. If nations really wanted to stop type of damage inflicted by modern day armaments, den all dey have to do is shut down the armanent manufacturing plants.
For every rocket or bomb launched, somebody made a profit. But do not for a minute believe that this conflict is one-sided. Somebody also profitting from the damage being inflicted by Hezbollah and Hamas. And apparently, Haliburton already bidding to rebuild Beruit.
This one-sided propaganda (on both sides) is very disheartening. And ah jus come back from a prayer meeting to boot.
Sorry guys ...
If that web site was intended to gain my sympathy ... it did not. What I saw was an attempt to use these images (images of tragedy beyond my comprehension) to further a political agenda. Dey even asking for donations.
Leh me ask allyuh a question. If war so bad, why does it continue? Well leh me answer it ... because somebody/organization stands to gain from it. If nations really wanted to stop type of damage inflicted by modern day armaments, den all dey have to do is shut down the armanent manufacturing plants.
For every rocket or bomb launched, somebody made a profit. But do not for a minute believe that this conflict is one-sided. Somebody also profitting from the damage being inflicted by Hezbollah and Hamas. And apparently, Haliburton already bidding to rebuild Beruit.
This one-sided propaganda (on both sides) is very disheartening. And ah jus come back from a prayer meeting to boot.
was dat on the plate?
choka on the egg ? salt fish?
dim sum?
sum kinda meatballs?
pork ? ah hope dat is not pork - not appropriate for dis thread
a red ting - is that a whole pepper?
sliced turkey?
hmmm ...yuh have a van houten cup so the cofee must be good. But yuh have a whole stack of cups in the back --- yuh saving the empty cups to take home?
waz dat tube next to the plate - some vasoline?
a wooden pencil -- so yuh not a technical guy - must be a bean counter but no adding mx in sight
ah going to use my image enhancer, digital analyzer OCR reader, model Mark V to convert the documents on you desk to text to se what yuh really tinh. The NSA and CSIS might be eavesdropping so I have to be careful.
Buh wuh de ass is dis?? yuh fass eh?...yuh does peep in yuh neighbour window too?
ah feel yuh goin dat ba'hai meeting just to see oui
Pot luck in dis place every friday
First..I doh eat pork...period....at all
Yes its steamed wantons,,sliced turkey,,some kinda mustard business on the egg,,some kinda portuguese pepper and monterey jack cheese (de kick sorf)
ah doh drink coffee..but when ah use the cups for water ah cah bring mihself to just toss it in de bin (you should see de pile behind mih)
de tube is KY fuh when de gyirls come over friday evenings :devil: :devil:
look mih old school abacus dey...me eh no bean counter dais fuh sure
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allyuh blasted london people eye REAL long in trute...ah feel you wukkin for CSIS ;)
Horse...just a suggestion
I have a strong stomach and it wont bother me...but you really should put some sort of warning/disclaimer on that...its not for everybody eyes despite the intent
ye shorse americans write on the missles before they bomb bagdad and suicide bombers pray before they "deliver the lords justice" foolishiness alroundHorse...just a suggestion
I have a strong stomach and it wont bother me...but you really should put some sort of warning/disclaimer on that...its not for everybody eyes despite the intent
yuh nuh see them Israeli children writing on them missile ah wha
ye shorse americans write on the missles before they bomb bagdad and suicide bombers pray before they "deliver the lords justice" foolishiness alroundHorse...just a suggestion
I have a strong stomach and it wont bother me...but you really should put some sort of warning/disclaimer on that...its not for everybody eyes despite the intent
yuh nuh see them Israeli children writing on them missile ah wha
yuh should ask Toppa and Organichah..pecan leave me alone nah.. :P
yuh should ask Toppa and Organicor read through the 25 pages of "Escape from Lebanon"..where de first 2 post was bout David Nahkid escaping from lebanon lol
We all know what's going on in Lebanon ...
And we all know that the US support the Israel agressive on Lebanon.
Now , here is what I have to ask , why does the US support them ?
Is it just dirty politics ... Support the Ally no matter what they do or say , or do they actually have a reason , how far fetched it may be..
I don't know too much about this , but I know that Isreal is being very aggresive with the Lebanese population for something that they didn't do , could it be that this is just the Isrealis using a kind of half baked reason to bomb Lebanon , something they've been wanting to do for a looooong time..
Nigel Dookie.
We all know what's going on in Lebanon ...
And we all know that the US support the Israel agressive on Lebanon.
Now , here is what I have to ask , why does the US support them ?
Is it just dirty politics ... Support the Ally no matter what they do or say , or do they actually have a reason , how far fetched it may be..
I don't know too much about this , but I know that Isreal is being very aggresive with the Lebanese population for something that they didn't do , could it be that this is just the Isrealis using a kind of half baked reason to bomb Lebanon , something they've been wanting to do for a looooong time..
Nigel Dookie.
Israel is a democracy...most of the other countries in the area they have conflicts with are not or have extremists groups carrying political power (Hezbollah).
So making sure the one democracy does well is important to them...they want it to spread to the rest of the region. Lebanon and Iraq supposed to be the examples for the Arab world but.....
And also very importantly, the Jews in the US hold some serious political and financial clout. The New Yorkers here might be able to comment more on that.
As mentioned before, back in the Cold War days Israel and her enemies were a sort of proxy for an underlying US-Russia conflict.
(I think that sounding right)
Israel is a democracy...most of the other countries in the area they have conflicts with are not or have extremists groups carrying political power (Hezbollah).
So making sure the one democracy does well is important to them...they want it to spread to the rest of the region. Lebanon and Iraq supposed to be the examples for the Arab world but.....
And also very importantly, the Jews in the US hold some serious political and financial clout. The New Yorkers here might be able to comment more on that.
As mentioned before, back in the Cold War days Israel and her enemies were a sort of proxy for an underlying US-Russia conflict.
(I think that sounding right)
(I doh tink dat 1st paragraph sounding right. Dat sound like ah Tony Snow press release)
We all know what's going on in Lebanon ...
And we all know that the US support the Israel agressive on Lebanon.
Now , here is what I have to ask , why does the US support them ?
Is it just dirty politics ... Support the Ally no matter what they do or say , or do they actually have a reason , how far fetched it may be..
I don't know too much about this , but I know that Isreal is being very aggresive with the Lebanese population for something that they didn't do , could it be that this is just the Isrealis using a kind of half baked reason to bomb Lebanon , something they've been wanting to do for a looooong time..
Nigel Dookie.
This is not the first time Isreal do this BS and attack a country heavily ,and get chastised for it.They always do it ,back in the eighties they attacked Iraq and distroyed there new Nuclear facility steuppss,America was pissed ,they always doing this kind of premtive strike thing.Damn Isrealies,just leave ppl alone .
Nah America was pissed,but by the time Desert Storm rolled around ,they were cool with the Isreal attack .As for Bush he pobably could"n spell deplomacy.This is not the first time Isreal do this BS and attack a country heavily ,and get chastised for it.They always do it ,back in the eighties they attacked Iraq and distroyed there new Nuclear facility steuppss,America was pissed ,they always doing this kind of premtive strike thing.Damn Isrealies,just leave ppl alone .
U sure they was pissed or they just publicly say they vex. Cuz I sure they damn happy Iraq dih have nuclear capabilities. Iran must be moving double time before the US ready for another military move however many years that take.
U forget the US leading the way in pre-emptive strikes. I sure they wish they had hit North Korea long time.
For the US, only thing better than them dishing out pre-emptive strikes against the axis of evil is somebody else doing it and taking the heat :devil:
Right now dem :whistling: while Israel doing the dirty work to mash up Hezbollah.
If the US wasn't stretched from Iraq they woulda be happy to have something start with Syria....and bomb dem up. Dey eh like Damascus atall.
Iran and Syria only pushing ting cuz the US doh want no more military committments now. They want to leave Iraq....Bush is a big advocate for diplomacy now ::)
nice - that doesn't even touch on what mossad is capable of.anybody see the movie "Munich" btw
I don't think people realize how superior the Israeli Army is to any army in the Middle East....they not even flexing dey muscles yet....check disof course...during the 60's and 70's....america lossed some uranium..(cia stole it and sold it to de israelis). they r the only country in de mid east with nuclear weapons... even though they r jus tactical nukes..they nukes..the yield will eb close to dat of hiroshima. so they r by far the strongest military force in de mideast..added to de fact they have the best trained soldiers they ahve to be..they ass surrounded on all sides by ppl who wanna annialate them. still dont give dem the right to kill civilians..btu dat always happens. in war...civilians always get the short end of de stick..up d ebum hole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces#Expenditures_and_alliances
"Expenditures and alliances
During 1950-66, Israel spent an average of 9% of its GDP on defense. Defense expenditures increased dramatically after both the 1967 and 1973 wars. In 1996, the military budget reached 10.6% of GDP and represented about 21.5% of the total 1996 budget.
In 1983, the United States and Israel established a Joint Political Military Group, which convenes twice a year. Both the U.S. and Israel participate in joint military planning and combined exercises, and have collaborated on military research and weapons development. Additionally the U.S. military maintains two classified, pre-positioned War Reserve Stocks in Israel valued at $493 million. [1] Israel has the official distinction of being an American Major non-NATO ally. As a result of this, America shares the vast majority of its security and military technology with Israel.
Israel has received US$1.8 billion in military aid annually from the United States since 1973. [2] This amount has increased in recent years as non-military economic aid has been shifted to military aid.[3] This aid is earmarked for use in the U.S. defence contractor market."
"Israeli military technology
Israeli-modified F-16 flying over Masada.The IDF is considered to be one of the most high-tech armies in the world, possessing top-of-the-line weapons and computer systems, Some of it American-made or indigenously modified (such as the M4A1 assault rifle, F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon jets and Apache helicopter). Israel also has developed its own independent weapons industry. Weapons such as the Merkava battle tank, Kfir jet series, and various small arms such as the Galil assault rifle and Uzi submachine gun have all proven to be very successful.
The IDF also has several large internal research and development departments, and it purchases many technologies produced by the Israeli security industries including IAI, IMI, Elbit, El-Op, Rafael, Soltam and dozens of smaller firms. Many of these developments have been battle-tested in Israel's numerous military engagements, making the relationship mutually beneficial, the IDF getting tailor-made solutions and the industries a very high repute.
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Main Israeli developments
An Israeli Merkava main battle tank.Israel's military technology is most famous for its guns, armored fighting vehicles (tanks, tank-converted APCs, armoured bulldozers etc) and rocketry (missiles and rockets). Israel also designs and in some cases it has manufactured aircraft (Kfir, Lavi; both discontinued) and naval systems (patrol and missile ships). Much of the IDF's electronic systems (intelligence, communication, command and control, navigation etc.) are Israeli-developed, including many systems installed on foreign platforms (esp. aircraft, tanks and submarines). So are many of its precision-guided munitions.
Israel and the United States are the only countries in the world with an anti-ballistic missile defense system ("Hetz", Arrow, or Patriot (U.S.) developed with funding and technology from the United States), though an operational system is in place protecting the Moscow area. Israel is also working with the U.S. on development of a tactical high energy laser system against medium range rockets (called Nautilus THEL).
Israel has the independent capability of launching reconnaissance satellites into orbit (a capability which only Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom, France, the People's Republic of China, India and Japan hold). Both the satellites (Ofeq) and the launchers (Shavit) were developed by the Israeli security industries.
Israel is also said to have developed an indigenous nuclear capability, although no official details or acknowledgements have ever been publicized. On the issue of this nuclear weapons program, Israel chooses to follow a policy of deliberate ambiguity."
They can also say that they are surrounding these people that wants to annihilate them too :-\ Here's another piece of the jigsaw puzzle - http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3208hariri_killed.html
of course...during the 60's and 70's....america lossed some uranium..(cia stole it and sold it to de israelis). they r the only country in de mid east with nuclear weapons... even though they r jus tactical nukes..they nukes..the yield will eb close to dat of hiroshima. so they r by far the strongest military force in de mideast..added to de fact they have the best trained soldiers they ahve to be..they ass surrounded on all sides by ppl who wanna annialate them. still dont give dem the right to kill civilians..btu dat always happens. in war...civilians always get the short end of de stick..up d ebum hole
nice - that doesn't even touch on what mossad is capable of.
Come on people....the goal was 20 pages...well my goal anyway ;D
It have plenty people aint contribute...stop de lurkin and push dis ting over de hill
What do we need to do here,,start mixin de war with the ILLuminati so pioneer trini and compre could bring de ruckus???
We need some conspiracy theories?? so ON DE BLOCK could get some??
We need a lil rascism bacchanal for Feliz to climb in??
More bible theories?? Morvant, Preacher, Friday...dem want some ah dat
ah ha time and popcorn
Politicicans--Vision 2020
Football--S.A. 2010
This thread-- 20 pages
It's all been pre-ordained.....LEH WE GOO!!!!
(come to think of it since pioneertrini buss all de mason and illumninati files...allyuh notice he never post again....ah feel flex & tallman in dis ting oui)
Doh get kicks...allyuh never notice how flex does be quiet,quiet quiet & tallman does know de answer to ANY football question posed....dat aint natural
ole man like u didnt know what "ha" mossad was....lord fadda u know what the mounties does do..lol u living here ....start growing a co opnice - that doesn't even touch on what mossad is capable of.
aight I didn't know what mossad was, so i check it up ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad
History
The Mossad was formed in December 1949 as the "Central Institute for Coordination", at the recommendation of Reuven Shiloah to Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion. Shiloah wanted a central body to coordinate and improve cooperation between the existing security services — the army's intelligence department (AMAN), the General Security Service (GSS or "Shabak") and the foreign offices "political department". In March 1951, it was reorganized and made a part of the prime minister's office, reporting directly to the prime minister. Its current staff is estimated at approximately 1,200. Its motto is be-'éyn tahbūlōt yīpōl `ām; ū-teshū`āh be-rōv yo'éts (Hebrew: באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, "Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." - Proverbs XI, 14) [1]
[edit]
High profile operations
Its many successes in serving Israel's security interests have earned Mossad a reputation for being extremely effective as an intelligence agency. Controversy exists over a few cases where it has employed the tactics of kidnapping and assassination.
[edit]
Successful operations
Location and capture of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. In 1960, Mossad discovered that Eichmann was in Argentina and through surveillance, they confirmed that he had been living there under the name of Ricardo Klement. The Israeli government approved an operation to capture Eichmann and bring him to Jerusalem for trial as a war criminal. He was captured by a team of Mossad agents on May 11, 1960, as part of a covert operation.
Assisting in the defection and rescuing the family of Munir Redfa, an Iraqi pilot who defected and flew his MiG 21 to Israel.
Provided key intelligence on the Egyptian Air Force for Operation Focus, the opening airstrike of the Six-Day War.
Assassination of those responsible for the Munich massacre at the 1972 Olympic Games, called "Operation Wrath of God".
Intelligence and operational assistance in 1973 Operation Spring of Youth.
Providing intelligence for Israeli military operations, thousands of miles away from Israel, for instance, for Operation Entebbe in 1976.
Assisting in Operation Moses, the immigration of Ethiopian Jews to Israel.
Providing highly sensitive information about Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, destroyed in an Israeli airstrike in 1981.
Abduction of Mordechai Vanunu in Italy 1986.[2]
The alleged assassination of Canadian scientist Gerald Bull, developer of the Iraqi supergun. While he was working on the Scud project, someone started "warning" him to stop working on the missiles. Over a period of a few months his apartment was broken into several times but nothing was stolen. He nevertheless continued to work on the project, and in March 1990 he was shot five times in the back of the neck while opening his door. The most common theory is that Mossad was responsible, and Mossad representatives have uncharacteristically all but claimed responsibility for his murder. Others, including Bull's son, believe that the Mossad is taking credit for an act they did not commit to scare off others who may try to help enemy regimes. The alternative theory is that Bull was killed by the CIA. Iraq and Iran are also candidates for suspicion.[1]
The acquisition of French Mirage III plans leading to the development of the Kfir.
The acquisition of French patrol boats which were paid for by the Israeli government, but were stopped by an arms embargo.
[edit]
Failed operations
In July 1973, Ahmed Bouchiki, an innocent Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway, was killed while walking with his pregnant wife. He had been mistaken for Ali Hassan Salameh, one of the leaders of Black September, the Palestinian group responsible for the Munich massacre, who had been given shelter in Norway. The Mossad agents had used fake Canadian passports, which angered the Canadian government. Six Mossad agents were arrested, and the incident became known as the Lillehammer affair.
In 1981, fake British passports were discovered in a grocery bag in London, leading to a diplomatic row with Israel over Mossad involvement in an attempt to infiltrate China.
In 1997, two Mossad agents were caught in Jordan, which had signed a peace treaty with Israel, on a mission to assassinate Sheikh Khaled Mashal, a leader of Hamas, by injecting him with poison at a pro-Hamas rally in Amman. Again, they were using fake Canadian passports. This led to a diplomatic row with Canada and Jordan, and Israel was forced to provide the poison antidote and release around 70 Palestinian prisoners, in particular the Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in exchange for the Mossad agents, who would otherwise have faced the death penalty for attempted murder. In March of 2004, seven years after he was released, Yassin was killed in an Israeli helicopter airstrike.
In July 2004, New Zealand imposed diplomatic sanctions on Israel over an incident in which two Israelis, Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara, who were allegedly working for Mossad, attempted to obtain New Zealand passports fraudulently. Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom later apologized to New Zealand for their actions. New Zealand cancelled several other passports believed to have been obtained by Israeli agents. [3] Both Kelman and Cara served half of their six month sentences and upon release were deported to Israel. Two others, an Israeli, Ze'ev Barkan, and a New Zealander, David Reznick, are believed to have been the third and fourth men involved in the passport affair but managed to leave New Zealand before being traced.
Come on people....the goal was 20 pages...well my goal anyway ;Ddutty for this thing to reach so far we need ot page toppa back here. she scarce last few days
It have plenty people aint contribute...stop de lurkin and push dis ting over de hill
What do we need to do here,,start mixin de war with the ILLuminati so pioneer trini and compre could bring de ruckus???
We need some conspiracy theories?? so ON DE BLOCK could get some??
We need a lil rascism bacchanal for Feliz to climb in??
More bible theories?? Morvant, Preacher, Friday...dem want some ah dat
ah ha time and popcorn
Politicicans--Vision 2020
Football--S.A. 2010
This thread-- 20 pages
It's all been pre-ordained.....LEH WE GOO!!!!
(come to think of it since pioneertrini buss all de mason and illumninati files...allyuh notice he never post again....ah feel flex & tallman in dis ting oui)
Doh get kicks...allyuh never notice how flex does be quiet,quiet quiet & tallman does know de answer to ANY football question posed....dat aint natural
What de ass I hearing here......Dyslexic/Kandi Toronto....first off, we's de same age....and secondly some people have to work during de summer and not up to date with current events ;Dole man like u didnt know what "ha" mossad was....lord fadda u know what the mounties does do..lol u living here ....start growing a co opnice - that doesn't even touch on what mossad is capable of.
aight I didn't know what mossad was, so i check it up ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad
History
The Mossad was formed in December 1949 as the "Central Institute for Coordination", at the recommendation of Reuven Shiloah to Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion. Shiloah wanted a central body to coordinate and improve cooperation between the existing security services — the army's intelligence department (AMAN), the General Security Service (GSS or "Shabak") and the foreign offices "political department". In March 1951, it was reorganized and made a part of the prime minister's office, reporting directly to the prime minister. Its current staff is estimated at approximately 1,200. Its motto is be-'éyn tahbūlōt yīpōl `ām; ū-teshū`āh be-rōv yo'éts (Hebrew: באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, "Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." - Proverbs XI, 14) [1]
[edit]
High profile operations
Its many successes in serving Israel's security interests have earned Mossad a reputation for being extremely effective as an intelligence agency. Controversy exists over a few cases where it has employed the tactics of kidnapping and assassination.
[edit]
Successful operations
Location and capture of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. In 1960, Mossad discovered that Eichmann was in Argentina and through surveillance, they confirmed that he had been living there under the name of Ricardo Klement. The Israeli government approved an operation to capture Eichmann and bring him to Jerusalem for trial as a war criminal. He was captured by a team of Mossad agents on May 11, 1960, as part of a covert operation.
Assisting in the defection and rescuing the family of Munir Redfa, an Iraqi pilot who defected and flew his MiG 21 to Israel.
Provided key intelligence on the Egyptian Air Force for Operation Focus, the opening airstrike of the Six-Day War.
Assassination of those responsible for the Munich massacre at the 1972 Olympic Games, called "Operation Wrath of God".
Intelligence and operational assistance in 1973 Operation Spring of Youth.
Providing intelligence for Israeli military operations, thousands of miles away from Israel, for instance, for Operation Entebbe in 1976.
Assisting in Operation Moses, the immigration of Ethiopian Jews to Israel.
Providing highly sensitive information about Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, destroyed in an Israeli airstrike in 1981.
Abduction of Mordechai Vanunu in Italy 1986.[2]
The alleged assassination of Canadian scientist Gerald Bull, developer of the Iraqi supergun. While he was working on the Scud project, someone started "warning" him to stop working on the missiles. Over a period of a few months his apartment was broken into several times but nothing was stolen. He nevertheless continued to work on the project, and in March 1990 he was shot five times in the back of the neck while opening his door. The most common theory is that Mossad was responsible, and Mossad representatives have uncharacteristically all but claimed responsibility for his murder. Others, including Bull's son, believe that the Mossad is taking credit for an act they did not commit to scare off others who may try to help enemy regimes. The alternative theory is that Bull was killed by the CIA. Iraq and Iran are also candidates for suspicion.[1]
The acquisition of French Mirage III plans leading to the development of the Kfir.
The acquisition of French patrol boats which were paid for by the Israeli government, but were stopped by an arms embargo.
[edit]
Failed operations
In July 1973, Ahmed Bouchiki, an innocent Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway, was killed while walking with his pregnant wife. He had been mistaken for Ali Hassan Salameh, one of the leaders of Black September, the Palestinian group responsible for the Munich massacre, who had been given shelter in Norway. The Mossad agents had used fake Canadian passports, which angered the Canadian government. Six Mossad agents were arrested, and the incident became known as the Lillehammer affair.
In 1981, fake British passports were discovered in a grocery bag in London, leading to a diplomatic row with Israel over Mossad involvement in an attempt to infiltrate China.
In 1997, two Mossad agents were caught in Jordan, which had signed a peace treaty with Israel, on a mission to assassinate Sheikh Khaled Mashal, a leader of Hamas, by injecting him with poison at a pro-Hamas rally in Amman. Again, they were using fake Canadian passports. This led to a diplomatic row with Canada and Jordan, and Israel was forced to provide the poison antidote and release around 70 Palestinian prisoners, in particular the Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in exchange for the Mossad agents, who would otherwise have faced the death penalty for attempted murder. In March of 2004, seven years after he was released, Yassin was killed in an Israeli helicopter airstrike.
In July 2004, New Zealand imposed diplomatic sanctions on Israel over an incident in which two Israelis, Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara, who were allegedly working for Mossad, attempted to obtain New Zealand passports fraudulently. Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom later apologized to New Zealand for their actions. New Zealand cancelled several other passports believed to have been obtained by Israeli agents. [3] Both Kelman and Cara served half of their six month sentences and upon release were deported to Israel. Two others, an Israeli, Ze'ev Barkan, and a New Zealander, David Reznick, are believed to have been the third and fourth men involved in the passport affair but managed to leave New Zealand before being traced.
lol...but the mossad around long time..lol. wham never use to watch tv in trini? or the neighbour use to pull thye curtian before panorama start :devil:What de ass I hearing here......Dyslexic/Kandi Toronto....first off, we's de same age....and secondly some people have to work during de summer and not up to date with current events ;Dole man like u didnt know what "ha" mossad was....lord fadda u know what the mounties does do..lol u living here ....start growing a co opnice - that doesn't even touch on what mossad is capable of.
aight I didn't know what mossad was, so i check it up ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad
History
The Mossad was formed in December 1949 as the "Central Institute for Coordination", at the recommendation of Reuven Shiloah to Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion. Shiloah wanted a central body to coordinate and improve cooperation between the existing security services — the army's intelligence department (AMAN), the General Security Service (GSS or "Shabak") and the foreign offices "political department". In March 1951, it was reorganized and made a part of the prime minister's office, reporting directly to the prime minister. Its current staff is estimated at approximately 1,200. Its motto is be-'éyn tahbūlōt yīpōl `ām; ū-teshū`āh be-rōv yo'éts (Hebrew: באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, "Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." - Proverbs XI, 14) [1]
[edit]
High profile operations
Its many successes in serving Israel's security interests have earned Mossad a reputation for being extremely effective as an intelligence agency. Controversy exists over a few cases where it has employed the tactics of kidnapping and assassination.
[edit]
Successful operations
Location and capture of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. In 1960, Mossad discovered that Eichmann was in Argentina and through surveillance, they confirmed that he had been living there under the name of Ricardo Klement. The Israeli government approved an operation to capture Eichmann and bring him to Jerusalem for trial as a war criminal. He was captured by a team of Mossad agents on May 11, 1960, as part of a covert operation.
Assisting in the defection and rescuing the family of Munir Redfa, an Iraqi pilot who defected and flew his MiG 21 to Israel.
Provided key intelligence on the Egyptian Air Force for Operation Focus, the opening airstrike of the Six-Day War.
Assassination of those responsible for the Munich massacre at the 1972 Olympic Games, called "Operation Wrath of God".
Intelligence and operational assistance in 1973 Operation Spring of Youth.
Providing intelligence for Israeli military operations, thousands of miles away from Israel, for instance, for Operation Entebbe in 1976.
Assisting in Operation Moses, the immigration of Ethiopian Jews to Israel.
Providing highly sensitive information about Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, destroyed in an Israeli airstrike in 1981.
Abduction of Mordechai Vanunu in Italy 1986.[2]
The alleged assassination of Canadian scientist Gerald Bull, developer of the Iraqi supergun. While he was working on the Scud project, someone started "warning" him to stop working on the missiles. Over a period of a few months his apartment was broken into several times but nothing was stolen. He nevertheless continued to work on the project, and in March 1990 he was shot five times in the back of the neck while opening his door. The most common theory is that Mossad was responsible, and Mossad representatives have uncharacteristically all but claimed responsibility for his murder. Others, including Bull's son, believe that the Mossad is taking credit for an act they did not commit to scare off others who may try to help enemy regimes. The alternative theory is that Bull was killed by the CIA. Iraq and Iran are also candidates for suspicion.[1]
The acquisition of French Mirage III plans leading to the development of the Kfir.
The acquisition of French patrol boats which were paid for by the Israeli government, but were stopped by an arms embargo.
[edit]
Failed operations
In July 1973, Ahmed Bouchiki, an innocent Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway, was killed while walking with his pregnant wife. He had been mistaken for Ali Hassan Salameh, one of the leaders of Black September, the Palestinian group responsible for the Munich massacre, who had been given shelter in Norway. The Mossad agents had used fake Canadian passports, which angered the Canadian government. Six Mossad agents were arrested, and the incident became known as the Lillehammer affair.
In 1981, fake British passports were discovered in a grocery bag in London, leading to a diplomatic row with Israel over Mossad involvement in an attempt to infiltrate China.
In 1997, two Mossad agents were caught in Jordan, which had signed a peace treaty with Israel, on a mission to assassinate Sheikh Khaled Mashal, a leader of Hamas, by injecting him with poison at a pro-Hamas rally in Amman. Again, they were using fake Canadian passports. This led to a diplomatic row with Canada and Jordan, and Israel was forced to provide the poison antidote and release around 70 Palestinian prisoners, in particular the Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in exchange for the Mossad agents, who would otherwise have faced the death penalty for attempted murder. In March of 2004, seven years after he was released, Yassin was killed in an Israeli helicopter airstrike.
In July 2004, New Zealand imposed diplomatic sanctions on Israel over an incident in which two Israelis, Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara, who were allegedly working for Mossad, attempted to obtain New Zealand passports fraudulently. Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom later apologized to New Zealand for their actions. New Zealand cancelled several other passports believed to have been obtained by Israeli agents. [3] Both Kelman and Cara served half of their six month sentences and upon release were deported to Israel. Two others, an Israeli, Ze'ev Barkan, and a New Zealander, David Reznick, are believed to have been the third and fourth men involved in the passport affair but managed to leave New Zealand before being traced.
las nite, meh borh again Christian neighbour say teh answer is to nuke everybody.and they living cliquey london ontario..lord fadda..it must be fun limin with them
my neighbourhood is very diverse
Bahai
Born Again
Christian Lebonese
Roman Catholic
Angilcan
United
Agnostics
Baptists
Doh give a sh*t
Moslem
Greek Orthodox
Druids
Wickka
Neruvian sun worshippers
I should invite dem to this forum
oho.....well dat explains it...I never watched much tv/news...only sports sunday/desmond/alo alo :devil:lol...but the mossad around long time..lol. wham never use to watch tv in trini? or the neighbour use to pull thye curtian before panorama start :devil:What de ass I hearing here......Dyslexic/Kandi Toronto....first off, we's de same age....and secondly some people have to work during de summer and not up to date with current events ;Dole man like u didnt know what "ha" mossad was....lord fadda u know what the mounties does do..lol u living here ....start growing a co opnice - that doesn't even touch on what mossad is capable of.
aight I didn't know what mossad was, so i check it up ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad
History
The Mossad was formed in December 1949 as the "Central Institute for Coordination", at the recommendation of Reuven Shiloah to Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion. Shiloah wanted a central body to coordinate and improve cooperation between the existing security services — the army's intelligence department (AMAN), the General Security Service (GSS or "Shabak") and the foreign offices "political department". In March 1951, it was reorganized and made a part of the prime minister's office, reporting directly to the prime minister. Its current staff is estimated at approximately 1,200. Its motto is be-'éyn tahbūlōt yīpōl `ām; ū-teshū`āh be-rōv yo'éts (Hebrew: באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, "Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." - Proverbs XI, 14) [1]
[edit]
High profile operations
Its many successes in serving Israel's security interests have earned Mossad a reputation for being extremely effective as an intelligence agency. Controversy exists over a few cases where it has employed the tactics of kidnapping and assassination.
[edit]
Successful operations
Location and capture of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. In 1960, Mossad discovered that Eichmann was in Argentina and through surveillance, they confirmed that he had been living there under the name of Ricardo Klement. The Israeli government approved an operation to capture Eichmann and bring him to Jerusalem for trial as a war criminal. He was captured by a team of Mossad agents on May 11, 1960, as part of a covert operation.
Assisting in the defection and rescuing the family of Munir Redfa, an Iraqi pilot who defected and flew his MiG 21 to Israel.
Provided key intelligence on the Egyptian Air Force for Operation Focus, the opening airstrike of the Six-Day War.
Assassination of those responsible for the Munich massacre at the 1972 Olympic Games, called "Operation Wrath of God".
Intelligence and operational assistance in 1973 Operation Spring of Youth.
Providing intelligence for Israeli military operations, thousands of miles away from Israel, for instance, for Operation Entebbe in 1976.
Assisting in Operation Moses, the immigration of Ethiopian Jews to Israel.
Providing highly sensitive information about Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, destroyed in an Israeli airstrike in 1981.
Abduction of Mordechai Vanunu in Italy 1986.[2]
The alleged assassination of Canadian scientist Gerald Bull, developer of the Iraqi supergun. While he was working on the Scud project, someone started "warning" him to stop working on the missiles. Over a period of a few months his apartment was broken into several times but nothing was stolen. He nevertheless continued to work on the project, and in March 1990 he was shot five times in the back of the neck while opening his door. The most common theory is that Mossad was responsible, and Mossad representatives have uncharacteristically all but claimed responsibility for his murder. Others, including Bull's son, believe that the Mossad is taking credit for an act they did not commit to scare off others who may try to help enemy regimes. The alternative theory is that Bull was killed by the CIA. Iraq and Iran are also candidates for suspicion.[1]
The acquisition of French Mirage III plans leading to the development of the Kfir.
The acquisition of French patrol boats which were paid for by the Israeli government, but were stopped by an arms embargo.
[edit]
Failed operations
In July 1973, Ahmed Bouchiki, an innocent Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway, was killed while walking with his pregnant wife. He had been mistaken for Ali Hassan Salameh, one of the leaders of Black September, the Palestinian group responsible for the Munich massacre, who had been given shelter in Norway. The Mossad agents had used fake Canadian passports, which angered the Canadian government. Six Mossad agents were arrested, and the incident became known as the Lillehammer affair.
In 1981, fake British passports were discovered in a grocery bag in London, leading to a diplomatic row with Israel over Mossad involvement in an attempt to infiltrate China.
In 1997, two Mossad agents were caught in Jordan, which had signed a peace treaty with Israel, on a mission to assassinate Sheikh Khaled Mashal, a leader of Hamas, by injecting him with poison at a pro-Hamas rally in Amman. Again, they were using fake Canadian passports. This led to a diplomatic row with Canada and Jordan, and Israel was forced to provide the poison antidote and release around 70 Palestinian prisoners, in particular the Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in exchange for the Mossad agents, who would otherwise have faced the death penalty for attempted murder. In March of 2004, seven years after he was released, Yassin was killed in an Israeli helicopter airstrike.
In July 2004, New Zealand imposed diplomatic sanctions on Israel over an incident in which two Israelis, Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara, who were allegedly working for Mossad, attempted to obtain New Zealand passports fraudulently. Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom later apologized to New Zealand for their actions. New Zealand cancelled several other passports believed to have been obtained by Israeli agents. [3] Both Kelman and Cara served half of their six month sentences and upon release were deported to Israel. Two others, an Israeli, Ze'ev Barkan, and a New Zealander, David Reznick, are believed to have been the third and fourth men involved in the passport affair but managed to leave New Zealand before being traced.
las nite, meh borh again Christian neighbour say teh answer is to nuke everybody.and they living cliquey london ontario..lord fadda..it must be fun limin with them
my neighbourhood is very diverse
Bahai
Born Again
Christian Lebonese
Roman Catholic
Angilcan
United
Agnostics
Baptists
Doh give a sh*t
Moslem
Greek Orthodox
Druids
Wickka
Neruvian sun worshippers
I should invite dem to this forum
wow u lucky... u had your very own redneck. how often did u have to feed him and carry him for walks..and ..am curb him?las nite, meh borh again Christian neighbour say teh answer is to nuke everybody.and they living cliquey london ontario..lord fadda..it must be fun limin with them
my neighbourhood is very diverse
Bahai
Born Again
Christian Lebonese
Roman Catholic
Angilcan
United
Agnostics
Baptists
Doh give a sh*t
Moslem
Greek Orthodox
Druids
Wickka
Neruvian sun worshippers
I should invite dem to this forum
we had a redneck but he finally moved .. de ting is, he did not know he was a redneck. Am sure he use to say "i have friends in the neighbourhood who are of colour".
But i wish he was here for me to hear his opinions on the mid-east. He always provided entertainment.
Pecan
ALL dem religion de man join and he still talkin bout nuke de people
He miss out on one...de satanic church
Pecanremind me of ah indian fella i know. he name ali..he was brought up muslim, he wife hindu..so he always involved in some hindu religious ceremony and i think he children is hindu...but he is a baptised spiritual baptist. with one set of effigies of one set ah saints.
ALL dem religion de man join and he still talkin bout nuke de people
He miss out on one...de satanic church
wow u lucky... u had your very own redneck. how often did u have to feed him and carry him for walks..and ..am curb him?las nite, meh borh again Christian neighbour say teh answer is to nuke everybody.and they living cliquey london ontario..lord fadda..it must be fun limin with them
my neighbourhood is very diverse
Bahai
Born Again
Christian Lebonese
Roman Catholic
Angilcan
United
Agnostics
Baptists
Doh give a sh*t
Moslem
Greek Orthodox
Druids
Wickka
Neruvian sun worshippers
I should invite dem to this forum
we had a redneck but he finally moved .. de ting is, he did not know he was a redneck. Am sure he use to say "i have friends in the neighbourhood who are of colour".
But i wish he was here for me to hear his opinions on the mid-east. He always provided entertainment.
I don't think people realize how superior the Israeli Army is to any army in the Middle East....they not even flexing dey muscles yet....check disof course...during the 60's and 70's....america lossed some uranium..(cia stole it and sold it to de israelis). they r the only country in de mid east with nuclear weapons... even though they r jus tactical nukes..they nukes..the yield will eb close to dat of hiroshima. so they r by far the strongest military force in de mideast..added to de fact they have the best trained soldiers they ahve to be..they ass surrounded on all sides by ppl who wanna annialate them. still dont give dem the right to kill civilians..btu dat always happens. in war...civilians always get the short end of de stick..up d ebum hole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces#Expenditures_and_alliances
"Expenditures and alliances
During 1950-66, Israel spent an average of 9% of its GDP on defense. Defense expenditures increased dramatically after both the 1967 and 1973 wars. In 1996, the military budget reached 10.6% of GDP and represented about 21.5% of the total 1996 budget.
In 1983, the United States and Israel established a Joint Political Military Group, which convenes twice a year. Both the U.S. and Israel participate in joint military planning and combined exercises, and have collaborated on military research and weapons development. Additionally the U.S. military maintains two classified, pre-positioned War Reserve Stocks in Israel valued at $493 million. [1] Israel has the official distinction of being an American Major non-NATO ally. As a result of this, America shares the vast majority of its security and military technology with Israel.
Israel has received US$1.8 billion in military aid annually from the United States since 1973. [2] This amount has increased in recent years as non-military economic aid has been shifted to military aid.[3] This aid is earmarked for use in the U.S. defence contractor market."
"Israeli military technology
Israeli-modified F-16 flying over Masada.The IDF is considered to be one of the most high-tech armies in the world, possessing top-of-the-line weapons and computer systems, Some of it American-made or indigenously modified (such as the M4A1 assault rifle, F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon jets and Apache helicopter). Israel also has developed its own independent weapons industry. Weapons such as the Merkava battle tank, Kfir jet series, and various small arms such as the Galil assault rifle and Uzi submachine gun have all proven to be very successful.
The IDF also has several large internal research and development departments, and it purchases many technologies produced by the Israeli security industries including IAI, IMI, Elbit, El-Op, Rafael, Soltam and dozens of smaller firms. Many of these developments have been battle-tested in Israel's numerous military engagements, making the relationship mutually beneficial, the IDF getting tailor-made solutions and the industries a very high repute.
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Main Israeli developments
An Israeli Merkava main battle tank.Israel's military technology is most famous for its guns, armored fighting vehicles (tanks, tank-converted APCs, armoured bulldozers etc) and rocketry (missiles and rockets). Israel also designs and in some cases it has manufactured aircraft (Kfir, Lavi; both discontinued) and naval systems (patrol and missile ships). Much of the IDF's electronic systems (intelligence, communication, command and control, navigation etc.) are Israeli-developed, including many systems installed on foreign platforms (esp. aircraft, tanks and submarines). So are many of its precision-guided munitions.
Israel and the United States are the only countries in the world with an anti-ballistic missile defense system ("Hetz", Arrow, or Patriot (U.S.) developed with funding and technology from the United States), though an operational system is in place protecting the Moscow area. Israel is also working with the U.S. on development of a tactical high energy laser system against medium range rockets (called Nautilus THEL).
Israel has the independent capability of launching reconnaissance satellites into orbit (a capability which only Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom, France, the People's Republic of China, India and Japan hold). Both the satellites (Ofeq) and the launchers (Shavit) were developed by the Israeli security industries.
Israel is also said to have developed an indigenous nuclear capability, although no official details or acknowledgements have ever been publicized. On the issue of this nuclear weapons program, Israel chooses to follow a policy of deliberate ambiguity."
anybody see the movie "Munich" btw
I just watch "Syriana" yesterday..them Emir's and Princes in the Middle East so damn naive and dem Americans exploiting them silly silly.
Another thing.. if Lebanon say they go fight back if Isreal go further north..how come they didn't use whatever means they have to fight Israel, to get rid of Hezbollah?
They can also say that they are surrounding these people that wants to annihilate them too :-\ Here's another piece of the jigsaw puzzle - http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3208hariri_killed.html
of course...during the 60's and 70's....america lossed some uranium..(cia stole it and sold it to de israelis). they r the only country in de mid east with nuclear weapons... even though they r jus tactical nukes..they nukes..the yield will eb close to dat of hiroshima. so they r by far the strongest military force in de mideast..added to de fact they have the best trained soldiers they ahve to be..they ass surrounded on all sides by ppl who wanna annialate them. still dont give dem the right to kill civilians..btu dat always happens. in war...civilians always get the short end of de stick..up d ebum hole
anybody see the movie "Munich" btw
I just watch "Syriana" yesterday..them Emir's and Princes in the Middle East so damn naive and dem Americans exploiting them silly silly.
yeah, ah saw munich and syriana. that was some ting with the saudis - but they have some real demographic problems in that country. a very young population and no jobs. that part with the young day labourer - hard life.Another thing.. if Lebanon say they go fight back if Isreal go further north..how come they didn't use whatever means they have to fight Israel, to get rid of Hezbollah?
from what ah read, hezbollah isn't just a militia, they also do alot of social services work - run soup kitchens and schools and stuff like that. for a weak govt like lebanon to attack hezbollah, they also risk alienating their population. no politician is willing to make this sacrifice. hamas is the same thing in the occupied territories - they even run a university. disentangling hezbollah from lebanon is real problems.
They can also say that they are surrounding these people that wants to annihilate them too :-\ Here's another piece of the jigsaw puzzle - http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3208hariri_killed.html
of course...during the 60's and 70's....america lossed some uranium..(cia stole it and sold it to de israelis). they r the only country in de mid east with nuclear weapons... even though they r jus tactical nukes..they nukes..the yield will eb close to dat of hiroshima. so they r by far the strongest military force in de mideast..added to de fact they have the best trained soldiers they ahve to be..they ass surrounded on all sides by ppl who wanna annialate them. still dont give dem the right to kill civilians..btu dat always happens. in war...civilians always get the short end of de stick..up d ebum hole
anybody see the movie "Munich" btw
I just watch "Syriana" yesterday..them Emir's and Princes in the Middle East so damn naive and dem Americans exploiting them silly silly.
yeah, ah saw munich and syriana. that was some ting with the saudis - but they have some real demographic problems in that country. a very young population and no jobs. that part with the young day labourer - hard life.Another thing.. if Lebanon say they go fight back if Isreal go further north..how come they didn't use whatever means they have to fight Israel, to get rid of Hezbollah?
from what ah read, hezbollah isn't just a militia, they also do alot of social services work - run soup kitchens and schools and stuff like that. for a weak govt like lebanon to attack hezbollah, they also risk alienating their population. no politician is willing to make this sacrifice. hamas is the same thing in the occupied territories - they even run a university. disentangling hezbollah from lebanon is real problems.
I do know bout the social work done by these groups..but yuh know Ribbit..I never hear any media house give that simple explanation as to why Lebanon ent really trying to drive Hezbollah out...or Palestine get rid of Hamas.
maybe cause it make too much sense and is the right reason lol.
Licks..check out "Munich"..that involve the Mossad and thing.
Somewhere i read many years ago that Israel have the best fighter pilots and secret service agents.
They combined the best of training and weapons from both Russia and the US.
I ent know how true it is though..anybody ever hear anything similar?
And Jesus began to tell the people this parable: "A man planted a vineyard, and let it out to tenants, and went into another country for a long while. When the time came, he sent a servant to the tenants, that they should give him some of the fruit of the vineyard; but the tenants beat him, and sent him away empty-handed. And he sent another servant; him also they beat and treated shamefully, and sent him away empty-handed. And he sent yet a third; this one they wounded and cast out. Then the owner of the vineyard said, `What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; it may be they will respect him.' But when the tenants saw him, they said to themselves, `This is the heir; let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.' And they cast him out of the vineyard and killed him. What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and destroy those tenants, and give the vineyard to others." When they heard this, they said, "God forbid!" But he looked at them and said, "What then is this that is written: `The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner'? Every one who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces; but when it falls on any one it will crush him." (Luke 20:9-18).
Hmmm so the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped inside Lebanon. Now that's very interesting.
http://www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=9401
It also been reported that Israel are using Phosphorus weapons.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L24911888.htm
Video:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Lebanese_Doctor_Says_Phosphorus_0724.html
Hmmm so the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped inside Lebanon. Now that's very interesting.
http://www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=9401
It also been reported that Israel are using Phosphorus weapons.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L24911888.htm
Video:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Lebanese_Doctor_Says_Phosphorus_0724.html
I been reading that for the past couple weeks,, that they usin white phosphorus in dem bomb.....if so dat REAL dread
de newest conspiracy theory is that is why they 'accidentally' blow up dat UN post yesterday....as dem fellahs woulda report what kinda weapons dey really using
dat would seem to support Kofi Annan statement that the UN post that was destroyed was a deliberate act ..hmmmm
dat would seem to support Kofi Annan statement that the UN post that was destroyed was a deliberate act ..hmmmm
Annan say it was deliberate?
Last I heard was the Israeli's apologized. He say it was deliberate or he was wondering if it was deliberate....cuz that is a serious allegation.
Ok well that isn't as strong language.
Somebody in the Israeli army will take the fall for the "mistake".
Ok well that isn't as strong language.
Somebody in the Israeli army will take the fall for the "mistake".
What was Israel's excuse? Wait, let me guess, Hezbollah were using the UN premises as a base, right? Just like every one of those civilian places they bombed was a Hezbollah strong-hold. ::)
What was Israel's excuse? Wait, let me guess, Hezbollah were using the UN premises as a base, right? Just like every one of those civilian places they bombed was a Hezbollah strong-hold. ::)
What was Israel's excuse? Wait, let me guess, Hezbollah were using the UN premises as a base, right? Just like every one of those civilian places they bombed was a Hezbollah strong-hold. ::)
hold tight gyal .... now dat the war in stride, doh put it pas both sides to do whatever is necessary to get their way.
And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
What was Israel's excuse? Wait, let me guess, Hezbollah were using the UN premises as a base, right? Just like every one of those civilian places they bombed was a Hezbollah strong-hold. ::)
hold tight gyal .... now dat the war in stride, doh put it pas both sides to do whatever is necessary to get their way.
And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
250 hezbollah fighters killed to date according to de news. 250 less vermin to deal wit. Good Riddance!!!!
250 hezbollah fighters killed to date according to de news. 250 less vermin to deal wit. Good Riddance!!!!
Those are civilians idiot.
The lebanese army/govt are too weak tostop hezbollah right now. Even if they could they are afraid of sparking another civil war in the country.
And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
There is no Lebanese army and a very new Gov't. Hezbollah only started firing rockets at Israel after Israel launched the attack on them. The Israeli soldiers were captured because they were on the Lebanese side of the border carrying out an operation.
The lebanese army/govt are too weak tostop hezbollah right now. Even if they could they are afraid of sparking another civil war in the country.
This is the thing I haven't decided upon yet.
Hezbollah has power because people in Lebanon support them....A LOT of people. This is in addition to Iran and Syria.
So you can't sy Hezbollah holding Lebanon hostage really cuz they have strong support.....so when Lebanon get bomb because of Hezbollah action the same civilians getting killed but is their country and they haven't been able to control what goes on in their borders.
I guess it doesn't make it any less tragic that people are dying but when u say "innocent" lives are lost. Does that include the ones who support the same guerilla warfare that has led to the assalt on Beirut?
Somehow I don't think the Israeli's see those civilians being as innocent as the rest of the world might see them :-\
And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
There is no Lebanese army and a very new Gov't. Hezbollah only started firing rockets at Israel after Israel launched the attack on them. The Israeli soldiers were captured because they were on the Lebanese side of the border carrying out an operation.
Huh?????? Really well you just full of useless inaccurate information eh???
250 hezbollah fighters killed to date according to de news. 250 less vermin to deal wit. Good Riddance!!!!
Those are civilians idiot.
The lebanese army/govt are too weak tostop hezbollah right now. Even if they could they are afraid of sparking another civil war in the country.
This is the thing I haven't decided upon yet.
Hezbollah has power because people in Lebanon support them....A LOT of people. This is in addition to Iran and Syria.
So you can't sy Hezbollah holding Lebanon hostage really cuz they have strong support.....so when Lebanon get bomb because of Hezbollah action the same civilians getting killed but is their country and they haven't been able to control what goes on in their borders.
I guess it doesn't make it any less tragic that people are dying but when u say "innocent" lives are lost. Does that include the ones who support the same guerilla warfare that has led to the assalt on Beirut?
Somehow I don't think the Israeli's see those civilians being as innocent as the rest of the world might see them :-\
That is a good point and one I can't answer but if I were to guess I would say they are still[ israel that is] trying to limit civilians [all civilians] killed. Hezbollah in some cases are using innocent[ non combatants] as human shileds. Going in their houses and hiding , fighting etc. This makes it defficult to fight them. Make no mistake if Israel just wanted to 'get' hezbollah alot more civilians would be killed. It is because of these civilians that makes the job more difficult. Regardless of whether they support hezbollah or not.
250 hezbollah fighters killed to date according to de news. 250 less vermin to deal wit. Good Riddance!!!!
Those are civilians idiot.
How do u tell the difference between a civilian and a fighter?
Hezbollah fighters don't wear uniforms. (correct me if I am wrong)
Suppose they might just be called fighters when they are killed in combat....then when their base gets bombed or ambushed they are claimed as civilian casualties?
I really haven't read up much on it last few days so feel free to correct any misconceptions I may have. It seems like Hezbollah is endangering the Lebanese people just as much as the Israeli army. What jurisdiction or authority does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers who are in Lebanese territory?
The Lebanese people have more power to confront Hezbollah than Israel.....though more civil war may leave the country weakened for many years. As long as there are people in Lebanon supporting Guerilla warfare they will suffer :-[
How do u tell the difference between a civilian and a fighter?
Hezbollah fighters don't wear uniforms. (correct me if I am wrong)
Suppose they might just be called fighters when they are killed in combat....then when their base gets bombed or ambushed they are claimed as civilian casualties?
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
DCS ah think the Hezbollah ones are the fellas with the guns in dey hand ;D
ok ah have ah question.
why didnt Israel tell Lebanon to evacuate all the Lebanese citizens out of the Hezbollah held areas or denounce Hezbollah before they started bombing south Lebanon?
or was it they had to stage ah suprise attack?lol
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
DCS ah think the Hezbollah ones are the fellas with the guns in dey hand ;D
And they does turn into civilians when they hide the gun in dey skirt :whistling:
turn into clark kent ;D
ok ah have ah question.
why didnt Israel tell Lebanon to evacuate all the Lebanese citizens out of the Hezbollah held areas or denounce Hezbollah before they started bombing south Lebanon?
or was it they had to stage ah suprise attack?lol
dey did ... dey dropped leaflets warning ppl to get out.
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Who is Hezbollah to be patrolling Lebanon like them is some official army?
A Lebanese army already exists. Have the people of Lebanon bestowed any authority (officially or morally) upon Hezbollah to act on their behalf?
Answer dat truthfully!
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Hezbollah instigated the recent action back on July 12. Not withstanding your info that the kidnapping was done in Lebanon (an I am not sure of that - I doh trust your sorces). The sources I read all indicate that iit was Hezbollah dat started this recent shit. Israel was attempting to rescue a soldier thatwas kidnapped by Hamas a couple of weeks earlier. Not 100% sure .. but didsunderscores a point that propoganda will be spewed by both sides to blame the other side.
the moral of the story ... yuh cannot accept the various reports at face value. At the end of dey day, we doh really know what went on. Only what we read in the biased press.
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Hezbollah instigated the recent action back on July 12. Not withstanding your info that the kidnapping was done in Lebanon (an I am not sure of that - I doh trust your sorces). The sources I read all indicate that iit was Hezbollah dat started this recent shit. Israel was attempting to rescue a soldier thatwas kidnapped by Hamas a couple of weeks earlier. Not 100% sure .. but didsunderscores a point that propoganda will be spewed by both sides to blame the other side.
the moral of the story ... yuh cannot accept the various reports at face value. At the end of dey day, we doh really know what went on. Only what we read in the biased press.
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Who is Hezbollah to be patrolling Lebanon like them is some official army?
A Lebanese army already exists. Have the people of Lebanon bestowed any authority (officially or morally) upon Hezbollah to act on their behalf?
Answer dat truthfully!
Hezbollah are seen as heroes and liberators in Lebanon because they were the ones who ended Israel's 20 yr occpation of Lebanon. Israel created Hezbollah.
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Hezbollah instigated the recent action back on July 12. Not withstanding your info that the kidnapping was done in Lebanon (an I am not sure of that - I doh trust your sorces). The sources I read all indicate that iit was Hezbollah dat started this recent shit. Israel was attempting to rescue a soldier thatwas kidnapped by Hamas a couple of weeks earlier. Not 100% sure .. but didsunderscores a point that propoganda will be spewed by both sides to blame the other side.
the moral of the story ... yuh cannot accept the various reports at face value. At the end of dey day, we doh really know what went on. Only what we read in the biased press.
aye why didnt Israel target Hamas instead..it didnt seem Hezbollah was 'that' in the news prior to the attacks.
so allyuh trying to say that Israel was right to attack anybody wherever and whenever with their drones?..i talking bout during ceasefire and thing btw
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Who is Hezbollah to be patrolling Lebanon like them is some official army?
A Lebanese army already exists. Have the people of Lebanon bestowed any authority (officially or morally) upon Hezbollah to act on their behalf?
Answer dat truthfully!
Hezbollah are seen as heroes and liberators in Lebanon because they were the ones who ended Israel's 20 yr occpation of Lebanon. Israel created Hezbollah.
Hezbollah forced Israel to leave? How?
yeah Jab Jab..they keep trying to take out Hamas leaders..why they didnt try to do the same with Hezbollah also btw..since you brought up that angle?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Who is Hezbollah to be patrolling Lebanon like them is some official army?
A Lebanese army already exists. Have the people of Lebanon bestowed any authority (officially or morally) upon Hezbollah to act on their behalf?
Answer dat truthfully!
Hezbollah are seen as heroes and liberators in Lebanon because they were the ones who ended Israel's 20 yr occpation of Lebanon. Israel created Hezbollah.
Hezbollah forced Israel to leave? How?
Is me you talking to? Cyar be.
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Who is Hezbollah to be patrolling Lebanon like them is some official army?
A Lebanese army already exists. Have the people of Lebanon bestowed any authority (officially or morally) upon Hezbollah to act on their behalf?
Answer dat truthfully!
Hezbollah are seen as heroes and liberators in Lebanon because they were the ones who ended Israel's 20 yr occpation of Lebanon. Israel created Hezbollah.
Hezbollah forced Israel to leave? How?
Is me you talking to? Cyar be.
Good point. It was curious sarcasm to see what valuable infomration would come outta yer mout.
i feel the US want to draw Syria into a conflict real real bad for whatever reason..they woulda like to get Iran..but Iran ent go fall fuh that crap..plus logistically Iran cant really get involved.
Toppa yuh ent answer how u tell the difference between a civilian and a Hzbollah fighter.
What uniform they wear?
Does it depend on whether they get catch holding a gun or not?
And what exactly was their reason for drawing Israel back into Lebanon?
Cuz u pointed out they drove them out.
So what the remaining conflict about? Are you sure Hezbollah don't want Israel to come back into Lebanon? (Iran and Syria link)
Toppa yuh ent answer how u tell the difference between a civilian and a Hzbollah fighter.
What uniform they wear?
Does it depend on whether they get catch holding a gun or not?
And what exactly was their reason for drawing Israel back into Lebanon?
Cuz u pointed out they drove them out.
So what the remaining conflict about? Are you sure Hezbollah don't want Israel to come back into Lebanon? (Iran and Syria link)
I get the general impression that MIGHT makes RIGHT. Where exactly does the truth lie? Sadly the truth is of no signficance. So what do we have here ???
Why would Hezbollah want Israel to come into Lebanon?
Why would Hezbollah want Israel to come into Lebanon?
I asking u. Because everything they have done till now has forced the Israeli army to come back in.
So how many civilians have to die before Hezbollah decide we should give back the soldiers we kidnap? Unless of course Hezbollah don't have much consideration for the civilian casualties.
Do u believe the Hezbollah fighters strategically hide amongst the civilian population and hence endanger the Lebanese people?
Is recovering Hezbollah fighters worth the risk of another occupation?
Were those kidnappings done in the best interest of the Lebanese people?
If the Lebanese people had to vote whether they should have returned the soldiers when Israel started the assault what would they choose? Who exactly is Hezbollah serving?
how u know hey were there carrying out na operation. u is a special forces soldier..u need to learn to take verythign u read with ah grain of salt unless.u have on flak jacket and carryign ah gahlil or kalashnikov rifle. nuttin dat coming out fomr those sides is completely true. dis and mis info.And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
There is no Lebanese army and a very new Gov't. Hezbollah only started firing rockets at Israel after Israel launched the attack on them. The Israeli soldiers were captured because they were on the Lebanese side of the border carrying out an operation.
wait wait wait..so u fel cause hamas democratically elected make them not terorist.. could i re call the 1931 elections in gemrnay. when ah certian nazi party was democraticlaly elected. and that was after the beer hall putsch when hitler tried a coup and was relased. hamas is a terorist organisation. so if they were democartaically elected then u saying the citizend gulity and culpable for what befals them now? i mean the allies bomb the outta germnay and japan killing mor ein raids liek the fir ebombing of dresden and tokyo than th e2 atomic bombs combined.Why would Hezbollah want Israel to come into Lebanon?
I asking u. Because everything they have done till now has forced the Israeli army to come back in.
So how many civilians have to die before Hezbollah decide we should give back the soldiers we kidnap? Unless of course Hezbollah don't have much consideration for the civilian casualties.
Do u believe the Hezbollah fighters strategically hide amongst the civilian population and hence endanger the Lebanese people?
Is recovering Hezbollah fighters worth the risk of another occupation?
Were those kidnappings done in the best interest of the Lebanese people?
If the Lebanese people had to vote whether they should have returned the soldiers when Israel started the assault what would they choose? Who exactly is Hezbollah serving?
Why the phu*ue you bothering to ask me anything if you're already stuck in your own perceptions? Israel have been capturing and assassinating ranking member of the democratically elected Hamas and have been targeting high ranking officials in the Hezbollah organisation but you have the audacity to imply that they insitgated the Israeli assault and are responsible for the civilian deaths? Look, you wasting my time oui.
how u know hey were there carrying out na operation. u is a special forces soldier..u need to learn to take verythign u read with ah grain of salt unless.u have on flak jacket and carryign ah gahlil or kalashnikov rifle. nuttin dat coming out fomr those sides is completely true. dis and mis info.And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
There is no Lebanese army and a very new Gov't. Hezbollah only started firing rockets at Israel after Israel launched the attack on them. The Israeli soldiers were captured because they were on the Lebanese side of the border carrying out an operation.
civilians on both sides getting killed and dais ashamed. but is partly the lebonsee to blame. harbored hezbollah for so long. and did nuttin. according to yuh president toppa...stae sponsered terrorism is war. and he said if u habouring terrorists u culpabale. look at arfgnaistan. member taliban is not al queda. they were jus haboring them. they were the ruling party albeit ah cruel and poor excuse for muslims. so ..unless u willng to go to lebonnon yuhself. dont eb to quick to criticize... u not livng on either side of de bacnal. dogma eh good for nuttin in these situations. jus serves to expose ignorance
no toppa ..u miss de pt...everyoen conceeds that both sides to blame u is de only one who for some reaosn is a die hard terrirots supporter. u scaring me. innocent lebonese ppl dieing we all argee to dathow u know hey were there carrying out na operation. u is a special forces soldier..u need to learn to take verythign u read with ah grain of salt unless.u have on flak jacket and carryign ah gahlil or kalashnikov rifle. nuttin dat coming out fomr those sides is completely true. dis and mis info.And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
There is no Lebanese army and a very new Gov't. Hezbollah only started firing rockets at Israel after Israel launched the attack on them. The Israeli soldiers were captured because they were on the Lebanese side of the border carrying out an operation.
civilians on both sides getting killed and dais ashamed. but is partly the lebonsee to blame. harbored hezbollah for so long. and did nuttin. according to yuh president toppa...stae sponsered terrorism is war. and he said if u habouring terrorists u culpabale. look at arfgnaistan. member taliban is not al queda. they were jus haboring them. they were the ruling party albeit ah cruel and poor excuse for muslims. so ..unless u willng to go to lebonnon yuhself. dont eb to quick to criticize... u not livng on either side of de bacnal. dogma eh good for nuttin in these situations. jus serves to expose ignorance
What? I realise allyuh wouldn't be content until I say Hezbollah and Hamas are the ones who are at fault and Israel is struggling to survive but yuh know what, phu*ue allyuh. Until allyuh could prove to me that what I'm saying is baseless...that is actually put forth a cohesive and comprehensive counter-arguement that justifies Israel's assault, then I might begin to take allyuh seriously. Until then, stick to football discussions.
wait wait wait..so u fel cause hamas democratically elected make them not terorist.. could i re call the 1931 elections in gemrnay. when ah certian nazi party was democraticlaly elected. and that was after the beer hall putsch when hitler tried a coup and was relased. hamas is a terorist organisation. so if they were democartaically elected then u saying the citizend gulity and culpable for what befals them now? i mean the allies bomb the outta germnay and japan killing mor ein raids liek the fir ebombing of dresden and tokyo than th e2 atomic bombs combined.Why would Hezbollah want Israel to come into Lebanon?
I asking u. Because everything they have done till now has forced the Israeli army to come back in.
So how many civilians have to die before Hezbollah decide we should give back the soldiers we kidnap? Unless of course Hezbollah don't have much consideration for the civilian casualties.
Do u believe the Hezbollah fighters strategically hide amongst the civilian population and hence endanger the Lebanese people?
Is recovering Hezbollah fighters worth the risk of another occupation?
Were those kidnappings done in the best interest of the Lebanese people?
If the Lebanese people had to vote whether they should have returned the soldiers when Israel started the assault what would they choose? Who exactly is Hezbollah serving?
Why the phu*ue you bothering to ask me anything if you're already stuck in your own perceptions? Israel have been capturing and assassinating ranking member of the democratically elected Hamas and have been targeting high ranking officials in the Hezbollah organisation but you have the audacity to imply that they insitgated the Israeli assault and are responsible for the civilian deaths? Look, you wasting my time oui.
yes as i was saying...no one eh say israel innocent..so us ayign cause isreal bigger terorits makes them mor egulity....dat rock bigger than i thought...steups see u..i done... take win yes... u is what dem ole timme ppl use ot call ah hard head nigga chile, late for shcool pickey head...lord fadda u win toppa..u winwait wait wait..so u fel cause hamas democratically elected make them not terorist.. could i re call the 1931 elections in gemrnay. when ah certian nazi party was democraticlaly elected. and that was after the beer hall putsch when hitler tried a coup and was relased. hamas is a terorist organisation. so if they were democartaically elected then u saying the citizend gulity and culpable for what befals them now? i mean the allies bomb the outta germnay and japan killing mor ein raids liek the fir ebombing of dresden and tokyo than th e2 atomic bombs combined.Why would Hezbollah want Israel to come into Lebanon?
I asking u. Because everything they have done till now has forced the Israeli army to come back in.
So how many civilians have to die before Hezbollah decide we should give back the soldiers we kidnap? Unless of course Hezbollah don't have much consideration for the civilian casualties.
Do u believe the Hezbollah fighters strategically hide amongst the civilian population and hence endanger the Lebanese people?
Is recovering Hezbollah fighters worth the risk of another occupation?
Were those kidnappings done in the best interest of the Lebanese people?
If the Lebanese people had to vote whether they should have returned the soldiers when Israel started the assault what would they choose? Who exactly is Hezbollah serving?
Why the phu*ue you bothering to ask me anything if you're already stuck in your own perceptions? Israel have been capturing and assassinating ranking member of the democratically elected Hamas and have been targeting high ranking officials in the Hezbollah organisation but you have the audacity to imply that they insitgated the Israeli assault and are responsible for the civilian deaths? Look, you wasting my time oui.
Do you even know what the phu*ue terrorism means? If you knew the meaning of terrorism you would know that Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the Middle East. The main gripe the West has against the Middle East is that there is no "democracy". The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists and according to you therfore deserve to be slaughtered. You are such a hypocrite.
BTW ALLYUH EH SEE HOW THE THREAD PIC BACK UP SINCE TOPPA REACH BACK.
no toppa ..u miss de pt...everyoen conceeds that both sides to blame u is de only one who for some reaosn is a die hard terrirots supporter. u scaring me. innocent lebonese ppl dieing we all argee to dathow u know hey were there carrying out na operation. u is a special forces soldier..u need to learn to take verythign u read with ah grain of salt unless.u have on flak jacket and carryign ah gahlil or kalashnikov rifle. nuttin dat coming out fomr those sides is completely true. dis and mis info.And who are the ones suffering? Lebanese civilians; not Israelis, not soldiers of Israel and not Hezbollah.
The question is...who fault is that?
Some same Israel...others say Hezbollah..and still others will say the Lebanese government and by extension the same Lebanese civilians who getitng killed.
WHat is clear is that Hezbollah will be chased by Israel until they feel safe...the Lebanse army hasn't lifted a finger against Hezbollah...have they? After all Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel.
U feel we would let Abu fire rockets into Caracas and not expect Port of Spain to get bomb?
Hezbollah hiding amongst the civilian population so they will get killed. What exactly isa the Lebanese government/army doing to protect its citizens?
There is no Lebanese army and a very new Gov't. Hezbollah only started firing rockets at Israel after Israel launched the attack on them. The Israeli soldiers were captured because they were on the Lebanese side of the border carrying out an operation.
civilians on both sides getting killed and dais ashamed. but is partly the lebonsee to blame. harbored hezbollah for so long. and did nuttin. according to yuh president toppa...stae sponsered terrorism is war. and he said if u habouring terrorists u culpabale. look at arfgnaistan. member taliban is not al queda. they were jus haboring them. they were the ruling party albeit ah cruel and poor excuse for muslims. so ..unless u willng to go to lebonnon yuhself. dont eb to quick to criticize... u not livng on either side of de bacnal. dogma eh good for nuttin in these situations. jus serves to expose ignorance
What? I realise allyuh wouldn't be content until I say Hezbollah and Hamas are the ones who are at fault and Israel is struggling to survive but yuh know what, phu*ue allyuh. Until allyuh could prove to me that what I'm saying is baseless...that is actually put forth a cohesive and comprehensive counter-arguement that justifies Israel's assault, then I might begin to take allyuh seriously. Until then, stick to football discussions.
but u dont seem to think hezbollaha nd hama...to blame at all ...what rock u lving uynder?
Do you even know what the phu*ue terrorism means? If you knew the meaning of terrorism you would know that Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the Middle East. The main gripe the West has against the Middle East is that there is no "democracy". The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists and according to you therfore deserve to be slaughtered.ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it also
NO NO NO NO....all dis setta agreement ting and huggin and little house on de prarie ting,, is what go cause de thread to deadDo you even know what the phu*ue terrorism means? If you knew the meaning of terrorism you would know that Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the Middle East. The main gripe the West has against the Middle East is that there is no "democracy". The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists and according to you therfore deserve to be slaughtered.ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it also
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Hezbollah instigated the recent action back on July 12. Not withstanding your info that the kidnapping was done in Lebanon (an I am not sure of that - I doh trust your sorces). The sources I read all indicate that iit was Hezbollah dat started this recent shit. Israel was attempting to rescue a soldier thatwas kidnapped by Hamas a couple of weeks earlier. Not 100% sure .. but didsunderscores a point that propoganda will be spewed by both sides to blame the other side.
the moral of the story ... yuh cannot accept the various reports at face value. At the end of dey day, we doh really know what went on. Only what we read in the biased press.
If you went on the link I posted at the bottom you would see that the story was carried by numerous news outlets around the world. The soldiers were captured in Lebanon.
dutty yuh money safe. man u go win. i will help u now.NO NO NO NO....all dis setta agreement ting and huggin and little house on de prarie ting,, is what go cause de thread to deadDo you even know what the phu*ue terrorism means? If you knew the meaning of terrorism you would know that Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the Middle East. The main gripe the West has against the Middle East is that there is no "democracy". The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists and according to you therfore deserve to be slaughtered.ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it also
de thread is bout war ...mek war!!!
TWENTY pages....!!!!....look nah ah have ah red fifty ridin on dis
ah go hadda drag dis ting accross de finish line mihself oui
Toppa yuh talkin ah setta shit!!!!!!!!
BTW ALLYUH EH SEE HOW THE THREAD PIC BACK UP SINCE TOPPA REACH BACK.
Because people have a problem with persons who are critical thinkers and don't just regurgitate the pungent propoganda spewed on mainstream media in the U.S.
pecan dont use words liek altruistic..u will amke plp draw for dey dictionary. how u expect toppa to answer u and she eh knwo what u tlaking bout. is not everyone bright like u u know.BTW ALLYUH EH SEE HOW THE THREAD PIC BACK UP SINCE TOPPA REACH BACK.
Because people have a problem with persons who are critical thinkers and don't just regurgitate the pungent propoganda spewed on mainstream media in the U.S.
Toppa:
So is OK to regurgitate biased opinions from those sources you cite?
PS: Dutty - 18 pages an counting
Comments like "Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the middle east" suggest you arguing from yuh heart instead of yuh brain.
Well I would rather have dem as neighbours than men like Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has open said that Israel must be destroyed and denies the Holocaust. Or Syria which also support a war as long as it occurs outside their country, or the Saudis (who have their own setta problems) etc.
All I saying is dat yuh cyar say that only Israel to blame. I acknowledge that Israel has resorted to nefarious means in the past and will again in the future. But Hezbollah eh no boy scout and do not for a minute tink they goals are altruistic.
pecan dont use words liek altruistic..u will amke plp draw for dey dictionary. how u expect toppa to answer u and she eh knwo what u tlaking bout. is not everyone bright like u u know.BTW ALLYUH EH SEE HOW THE THREAD PIC BACK UP SINCE TOPPA REACH BACK.
Because people have a problem with persons who are critical thinkers and don't just regurgitate the pungent propoganda spewed on mainstream media in the U.S.
Toppa:
So is OK to regurgitate biased opinions from those sources you cite?
PS: Dutty - 18 pages an counting
Comments like "Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the middle east" suggest you arguing from yuh heart instead of yuh brain.
Well I would rather have dem as neighbours than men like Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has open said that Israel must be destroyed and denies the Holocaust. Or Syria which also support a war as long as it occurs outside their country, or the Saudis (who have their own setta problems) etc.
All I saying is dat yuh cyar say that only Israel to blame. I acknowledge that Israel has resorted to nefarious means in the past and will again in the future. But Hezbollah eh no boy scout and do not for a minute tink they goals are altruistic.
Pecan yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!!!
Organic yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!
ah woman tell me that ah to nefarious ah time and ha ahd looked it up..hmm how come no one ever tell em ah altruistic....damn...stueps
Pecan yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!!!
Organic yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!
steupsssss
i tink yuh like Toppa
yes i thought it wa some new word for sexy..but a last no... :'(ah woman tell me that ah to nefarious ah time and ha ahd looked it up..hmm how come no one ever tell em ah altruistic....damn...stueps
anybody ever tell yuh dat yuh slydexic too?
Pecan yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!!!
Organic yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!
steupsssss
i tink yuh like Toppa
nice lookin woman
but too young...AND talkin ah setta shyte!!...like de RES AH ALLYUH
NO NO NO NO....all dis setta agreement ting and huggin and little house on de prarie ting,, is what go cause de thread to deadDo you even know what the phu*ue terrorism means? If you knew the meaning of terrorism you would know that Israel is the biggest terrorist state in the Middle East. The main gripe the West has against the Middle East is that there is no "democracy". The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists and according to you therfore deserve to be slaughtered.ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it also
de thread is bout war ...mek war!!!
TWENTY pages....!!!!....look nah ah have ah red fifty ridin on dis
ah go hadda drag dis ting accross de finish line mihself oui
Toppa yuh talkin ah setta shit!!!!!!!!
The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
Question: If half the things we're told turn out to be lies, how do you know the truth? ??? The truth is the biggest casualty here, so no just solution would emerge. >:(The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
Boy toppa i take a break from this thread and just happen to comme back and see you talking chupid mindless tata. I give you credit though, yer 18 and at least have an opinion but lemme give yer a suggestion when yer arguing a point for discussion get yer facts straight.As a poster said you arguing from emotion not facts [all dem chupid websites you reading take propaganda to a new level. BTW they have websites on the other end as well saying Israel and U.S. can do no wrong, dem is chupid site too]. If yer using emotion then no one can discuss wit u only argue. Yer 18 right? So is summer time yer should go outside and play wit de rest of de children in de playground and leave big people to talk. I tink I hear de ice cream truck?? RUn girl run!!! I done now.
The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
Dutty - look .... page 19
Boy toppa i take a break from this thread and just happen to comme back and see you talking chupid mindless tata. I give you credit though, yer 18 and at least have an opinion but lemme give yer a suggestion when yer arguing a point for discussion get yer facts straight.As a poster said you arguing from emotion not facts [all dem chupid websites you reading take propaganda to a new level. BTW they have websites on the other end as well saying Israel and U.S. can do no wrong, dem is chupid site too]. If yer using emotion then no one can discuss wit u only argue. Yer 18 right? So is summer time yer should go outside and play wit de rest of de children in de playground and leave big people to talk. I tink I hear de ice cream truck?? RUn girl run!!! I done now.
JabJab..yuh go get ah red card for condescension...........and yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!!
come to think of it,,dat might work out well,,,,yuh berating will vex she and sun in arizona hot like hell
Pure vexation..
carry on brudder carry on
Fishs is over 60 years of misery goin on in dat region dey,,, only places GE & lockheed-martin profitin
How yuh go deny ah man ah lil profit from ah mere 20 pages......ah hadda subsidize de popcorn yuh know,,,have ah heart nah
LETS GO PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :challenge: :duel: :timeout:
ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it alsoNO NO NO NO....all dis setta agreement ting and huggin and little house on de prarie ting,, is what go cause de thread to dead
I have two views on this, with no one more right than the other.
First you have the Israelis, or the "white Jews" as some call them. First off, they are not Israelis, as in the people in the bible. They are european people who practice the jewish religion, and were "given" a country by the brits and allieds after world war 2, in light of their presecution by the Nazis.
Because of this, you can kind of understand the arab views on them. They are not one of us, never tried to blend in or make friends. Just come in, and displace people who were living in the state of Israel (land anyway) for hundreds of years, all because they had the backing of the americans and brits, etc.
Then add to that the very aggressive and often violent Israeli reaction to every thing done to them. If you had neighbours, who for every inch, they take a yard, would you be able to live in peace with them? The Israelis are just as aggressive and warmongering as their enemies. Their access to advanced weaponry only add to the problem. It's like rocks and grenades versus fighter jets and guided missiles.
Now ask yourself this: if this were any other country, especially a non-first world country, who invaded and started bombing up their neighbours, wouldn't america and britain and NATO have already stepped by now and dealt with it? Makes one wonder. Because Iraq invaded Kuwait, america went to war. Yet the Israelis constantly bomb and invade and occupy their neighbours at will, and no one says boo.
Then on the other hand you have the Palestinians/Lebanese or active terrorist networks. Everybody talks about the suicide bombings and how bad they are to be waging this war on Israel.
Let me ask you this: if your country, or what has been your people's home for hundreds of years, is suddenly occupied by some foreigners, who then make you a second (or even third) class citizen in your own land, make it almost impossible for you to get a good paying job, and then displace you to where ever they feel, bomb you left and right for every protest or act of defiance, what would you do? Would you fight back?
How would you fight back? You don't have any great supply of money to buy weapons. There is an economic embargo on you and your people, because everyone it seems is supporting your occupier in their bid to rid you from the land. What are your options of resistance?
It is a very sad situation, created by the allieds who put europeans in a land that they had no rights too, and displaced a people who are from a culture where they never give up and will fight to the death.
Result? This is never going to stop. The war will rage on. And it will escalate, because the arab community will not stand for seeing their brethren victimized by Israel.
I cannot say one side is right. They are both victims, they are both committing unforgiveable violence because they believe they are right.
Lord help us.
question.
do you hate everyone that is white, everyone that is British, or only white British people?
hahahaaaaa :rotfl: :rotfl:...you is ah WICKED beyotch
If I was FireBrand I would lock this topic and ask for half of that $50 yuh getting ;D
ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it alsoNO NO NO NO....all dis setta agreement ting and huggin and little house on de prarie ting,, is what go cause de thread to dead
de thread is bout war ...mek war!!!
TWENTY pages....!!!!....look nah ah have ah red fifty ridin on dis
ah go hadda drag dis ting accross de finish line mihself oui
Toppa yuh talkin ah setta shit!!!!!!!!Quote
Dutty yuh ent easy yuh know ;D
like you is de CIA..yuh keep spreading chain up talk lol
now yuh tell Organic and Pecan they talking shit too..well tell Jab Jab that too LOL
ah have to agree with yuh there Toppa..that is how i see it alsoNO NO NO NO....all dis setta agreement ting and huggin and little house on de prarie ting,, is what go cause de thread to dead
de thread is bout war ...mek war!!!
TWENTY pages....!!!!....look nah ah have ah red fifty ridin on dis
ah go hadda drag dis ting accross de finish line mihself oui
Toppa yuh talkin ah setta shit!!!!!!!!Quote
Dutty yuh ent easy yuh know ;D
like you is de CIA..yuh keep spreading chain up talk lol
now yuh tell Organic and Pecan they talking shit too..well tell Jab Jab that too LOL
Ah done get dat already. He is a set up man oui!!!
JabJab..yuh go get ah red card for condescension...........and yuh talkin ah setta shyte!!!!
And fer dat. Posters doh post no more we cyah let Dutty make de 20 pages!!!!. Toppa please take a break!!
What jurisdiction does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers in Lebanese territory? What jurisdiction does Israel have to hold elected members of the Palestinian Gov't and thousands or other Palestinians captive? What authority do they have to hold Hezbollah people captive and carry out extra-judicial assasinations?
I ask u about Hezbollah.
Answer the question.
What jurisdiction or authority do they have?
You trying to put the cart before the donkey. Everything Hezbollah has done thus far has been retaliatory. Had the Israeli soldiers not been trying to carry out an operation in Lebanon, they would not have been captured by Hezbollah. Had Israel agreed to the prisoner exchange and not attacked Lebanon, rockets would not have been firing into Israel.
Hezbollah instigated the recent action back on July 12. Not withstanding your info that the kidnapping was done in Lebanon (an I am not sure of that - I doh trust your sorces). The sources I read all indicate that iit was Hezbollah dat started this recent shit. Israel was attempting to rescue a soldier thatwas kidnapped by Hamas a couple of weeks earlier. Not 100% sure .. but didsunderscores a point that propoganda will be spewed by both sides to blame the other side.
the moral of the story ... yuh cannot accept the various reports at face value. At the end of dey day, we doh really know what went on. Only what we read in the biased press.
If you went on the link I posted at the bottom you would see that the story was carried by numerous news outlets around the world. The soldiers were captured in Lebanon.
I read your link a short while ago ... as I said before I doh trust your sorces. How can yuh get unbiased reports from sites with names like:
"Antiwar.com - your best source for antiwar news, viewpoints and activities"
or
"Whatreallyhappened.com - the history the government hopes you dont learn"
and while the story did quote AP (i would consider them to be objective), the article clearly said the Israeli Miltary did not confirm the report .. i.e. it is not necessarily fact.
And even if the israeli were inLebanon ... ask why? because they were trying to rescue a another soldier.
But anyway ... the general public will neve get 100% accuracy because too many "nancy stories" floating around.
Toppa insists that the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped in Lebanon on July 12th.
Yet Reuters still saying that ih happened in Israel. Here is a report from 10:00 am July 27. Also some stats on causities etc. The following are excerpts only.
Bottom line: ppl dying all over de place
BEIRUT (Reuters) -: Israel pummeled south Lebanon with air and artillery strikes on Thursday, but opted against launching a major invasion in pursuit of Hizbollah guerrillas.
.... Israeli forces have been trying to push Hizbollah back from the border and end rocket attacks since the Shi'ite group captured two soldiers in a raid on July 12, but the army is wary of getting bogged down by guerrilla warfare in south Lebanon.
At least 434 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in Lebanon, where a humanitarian crisis has exploded. Fifty-one Israelis, including 18 civilians, have been killed.
Hizbollah has fired more than 1,400 rockets into northern Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi'ite militia on July 12, in which two soldiers were abducted.
Israeli attacks killed three people, including a 75-year-old woman, in Gaza on Thursday, medics said, a day after clashes in which 24 Palestinians died. Israel has killed 146 Gazans in a month-long offensive to recover a soldier seized by militants.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060727/ts_nm/mideast_dc_576
Toppa insists that the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped in Lebanon on July 12th.
Yet Reuters still saying that ih happened in Israel. Here is a report from 10:00 am July 27. Also some stats on causities etc. The following are excerpts only.
Bottom line: ppl dying all over de place
BEIRUT (Reuters) -: Israel pummeled south Lebanon with air and artillery strikes on Thursday, but opted against launching a major invasion in pursuit of Hizbollah guerrillas.
.... Israeli forces have been trying to push Hizbollah back from the border and end rocket attacks since the Shi'ite group captured two soldiers in a raid on July 12, but the army is wary of getting bogged down by guerrilla warfare in south Lebanon.
At least 434 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in Lebanon, where a humanitarian crisis has exploded. Fifty-one Israelis, including 18 civilians, have been killed.
Hizbollah has fired more than 1,400 rockets into northern Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi'ite militia on July 12, in which two soldiers were abducted.
Israeli attacks killed three people, including a 75-year-old woman, in Gaza on Thursday, medics said, a day after clashes in which 24 Palestinians died. Israel has killed 146 Gazans in a month-long offensive to recover a soldier seized by militants.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060727/ts_nm/mideast_dc_576
Brainiac, the article you quoted was published on the 27th July. Here are articles that came out soon after the captures were made. ::)
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html (Forbes)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers.html (Hindustan Times)
http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348 (Bahrain News Agency)
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/12072006/202/liban-le-hezbollah-capture-deux-soldats-israeliens-sept-autres-tues.html (France yahoo)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Hezbollah_liban.html (English translation to what was reported on France Yahoo)
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1180404.php/Hezbollah_back_in_the_spotlight_after_capturing_soldiers
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers2.html (AFP)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113428.htm (China)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113491.htm (Israel confirmed the capture)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html (Asia Times)
Dutty .. wat yuh tink? 20 pages?
Toppa insists that the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped in Lebanon on July 12th.
Yet Reuters still saying that ih happened in Israel. Here is a report from 10:00 am July 27. Also some stats on causities etc. The following are excerpts only.
Bottom line: ppl dying all over de place
BEIRUT (Reuters) -: Israel pummeled south Lebanon with air and artillery strikes on Thursday, but opted against launching a major invasion in pursuit of Hizbollah guerrillas.
.... Israeli forces have been trying to push Hizbollah back from the border and end rocket attacks since the Shi'ite group captured two soldiers in a raid on July 12, but the army is wary of getting bogged down by guerrilla warfare in south Lebanon.
At least 434 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in Lebanon, where a humanitarian crisis has exploded. Fifty-one Israelis, including 18 civilians, have been killed.
Hizbollah has fired more than 1,400 rockets into northern Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi'ite militia on July 12, in which two soldiers were abducted.
Israeli attacks killed three people, including a 75-year-old woman, in Gaza on Thursday, medics said, a day after clashes in which 24 Palestinians died. Israel has killed 146 Gazans in a month-long offensive to recover a soldier seized by militants.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060727/ts_nm/mideast_dc_576
Brainiac, the article you quoted was published on the 27th July. Here are articles that came out soon after the captures were made. ::)
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html (Forbes)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers.html (Hindustan Times)
http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348 (Bahrain News Agency)
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/12072006/202/liban-le-hezbollah-capture-deux-soldats-israeliens-sept-autres-tues.html (France yahoo)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Hezbollah_liban.html (English translation to what was reported on France Yahoo)
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1180404.php/Hezbollah_back_in_the_spotlight_after_capturing_soldiers
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers2.html (AFP)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113428.htm (China)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113491.htm (Israel confirmed the capture)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html (Asia Times)
http://www.voltairenet.org/article142056.html (How good is your Frecnh?)
Dutty .. wat yuh tink? 20 pages?
What? Nothing else to say?
Toppa insists that the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped in Lebanon on July 12th.
Yet Reuters still saying that ih happened in Israel. Here is a report from 10:00 am July 27. Also some stats on causities etc. The following are excerpts only.
Bottom line: ppl dying all over de place
BEIRUT (Reuters) -: Israel pummeled south Lebanon with air and artillery strikes on Thursday, but opted against launching a major invasion in pursuit of Hizbollah guerrillas.
.... Israeli forces have been trying to push Hizbollah back from the border and end rocket attacks since the Shi'ite group captured two soldiers in a raid on July 12, but the army is wary of getting bogged down by guerrilla warfare in south Lebanon.
At least 434 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in Lebanon, where a humanitarian crisis has exploded. Fifty-one Israelis, including 18 civilians, have been killed.
Hizbollah has fired more than 1,400 rockets into northern Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi'ite militia on July 12, in which two soldiers were abducted.
Israeli attacks killed three people, including a 75-year-old woman, in Gaza on Thursday, medics said, a day after clashes in which 24 Palestinians died. Israel has killed 146 Gazans in a month-long offensive to recover a soldier seized by militants.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060727/ts_nm/mideast_dc_576
Brainiac, the article you quoted was published on the 27th July. Here are articles that came out soon after the captures were made. ::)
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html (Forbes)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers.html (Hindustan Times)
http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348 (Bahrain News Agency)
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/12072006/202/liban-le-hezbollah-capture-deux-soldats-israeliens-sept-autres-tues.html (France yahoo)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Hezbollah_liban.html (English translation to what was reported on France Yahoo)
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1180404.php/Hezbollah_back_in_the_spotlight_after_capturing_soldiers
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers2.html (AFP)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113428.htm (China)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113491.htm (Israel confirmed the capture)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html (Asia Times)
http://www.voltairenet.org/article142056.html (How good is your Frecnh?)
Toppa .. yuh still miss meh point and meh scarcasm. :P
Yuh CANNOT categorically accuse Israel of being the only instigator in this conflict. and hold up Hezbolla as beyond reproach. The reports in the world media cannot be taken at face value. Yuh have to throw in some grains of salt in any report dat yuh read (especially from sites wid names like "antiwar.com" - :thinking: :thinking:hmm ah wonder wat dey point of view is????).
While my general sentiment is with the Israelis at this moment, ah not foolish enuf to tink dat deay are all angel.
An while your sentiments are with Hezbollah right now, ah jus hope yuh eh foolish enug to tink det are angels too. But den again ,who knows??
250 hezbollah fighters killed to date according to de news. 250 less vermin to deal wit. Good Riddance!!!!
Those are civilians idiot.
How do u tell the difference between a civilian and a fighter?
Hezbollah fighters don't wear uniforms. (correct me if I am wrong)
Suppose they might just be called fighters when they are killed in combat....then when their base gets bombed or ambushed they are claimed as civilian casualties?
I really haven't read up much on it last few days so feel free to correct any misconceptions I may have. It seems like Hezbollah is endangering the Lebanese people just as much as the Israeli army. What jurisdiction or authority does Hezbollah have to capture Israeli soldiers who are in Lebanese territory?
The Lebanese people have more power to confront Hezbollah than Israel.....though more civil war may leave the country weakened for many years. As long as there are people in Lebanon supporting Guerilla warfare they will suffer :-[
The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
at de risk of actually putting in my first opinion...she is right
Yes hamas has a militant terrorist arm...however the reality dictates that they were democratically elected.(with independent un observers)..which was the point of this whole domino, nationa building scenario in the first place
Most governments recognized their legitimacy...except for bim and bam
Musharraf take pakistan in a non democratic coup....he is still recognized as the legit leader by bim and bam...so dem does well choose if dey like yuh or not...despite yuh past
"dem fellahs does practice hypocrisy..but dis ting headin to page twenty"--- aii ya yaai EXTEMPO in yuh wire
LETS GO PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
Definitions of Terrorism on the Web:well according to this..even flecking Santa Claus could be ah terrorist ;D
is defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/teach/alqaeda/glossary.html
The FBI defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp
The systematic use of violence to achieve political ends is not new – among many other examples, it featured during The Troubles in Ireland before its independence in 1922. In recent decades, it has become a common tactic among a wide variety of groups, from independence movements to the secret services of various countries. ...
www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/browse/glossary.html
use of terror, especially the systematic use of terror by the government or other authority against particular persons or groups; a method of opposing a government internally or externally through the use of terror
www.imuna.org/c2c/app_a.html
Any act including, but not limited to, the use of force or violence and/or threat thereof of any person or group(s) of persons whether acting alone or on behalf of, or in connection with, any organisation(s) or government(s) committed for political, religions, ideological or similar purposes, including the intention to influence any government and/or to put the public or any section of the public in fear.
www.ecis.org/finance/paisdefin.htm
"Systematic use of terror, manifesting itself in violence and intimidation. Terrorism has been used by groups wishing to coerce a govt in order to achieve political or other objectives, and also by dictatorships or other autocratic governments in order to overcome opposition to their policies." [BFH] Often anti-terrorist mercenaries will only do a job if they have a carte blanche to do whatever they want. ...
www.embassy.org.nz/encycl/t3encyc.htm
Acts of murder and destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations.
www.jafi.org.il/education/hasbara/glossary.html
The systematic use of terror, the deliberate creation and exploitation of fear for bringing about political change
wps.prenhall.com/chet_langan_preparing_1/0,9681,1613226-content,00.html
a violent act in violation of the criminal laws of the United States, which is intended to intimidate or influence the policy of a government.
www.njsbf.com/njsbf/student/respect/spring02-glossary.cfm
Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of coercion including the use of force, intended to intimidate or coerce, and committed in support of political or social objectives.
www.austin.cc.tx.us/audit/Glossary/LetterT.htm
a psychological strategy of war for gaining political ends by deliberately creating a well-founded climate of fear among the civilian popuation. Such a strategy may be used by an occupying army on the occupied population. Many terrorist acts, especially against an occupying military or against illegal occupants are acts of war or resistance, and not terrorism.
www.naiadonline.ca/book/01Glossary.htm
the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Terrorism is a controversial and subjective term with multiple definitions. One definition means a violent action targetting civilians exclusively. Another definition is the use or threatened use of violence for the purpose of creating fear in order to achieve a political, economic, religious, or ideological goal. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
So let us not be too narrow-minded in who we brand terrorists and who we don't.
well according to this..even flecking Santa Claus could be ah terrorist ;D
So let us not be too narrow-minded in who we brand terrorists and who we don't.
Question: If half the things we're told turn out to be lies, how do you know the truth? ??? The truth is the biggest casualty here, so no just solution would emerge. >:(The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
Toppa insists that the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped in Lebanon on July 12th.
Yet Reuters still saying that it happened in Israel. Here is a report from 10:00 am July 27. Also some stats on causalities etc. The following are excerpts only.
Bottom line: ppl dying all over de place
BEIRUT (Reuters) -: Israel pummeled south Lebanon with air and artillery strikes on Thursday, but opted against launching a major invasion in pursuit of Hizbollah guerrillas.
.... Israeli forces have been trying to push Hizbollah back from the border and end rocket attacks since the Shi'ite group captured two soldiers in a raid on July 12, but the army is wary of getting bogged down by guerrilla warfare in south Lebanon.
At least 434 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in Lebanon, where a humanitarian crisis has exploded. Fifty-one Israelis, including 18 civilians, have been killed.
Hizbollah has fired more than 1,400 rockets into northern Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi'ite militia on July 12, in which two soldiers were abducted.
Israeli attacks killed three people, including a 75-year-old woman, in Gaza on Thursday, medics said, a day after clashes in which 24 Palestinians died. Israel has killed 146 Gazans in a month-long offensive to recover a soldier seized by militants.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060727/ts_nm/mideast_dc_576
Brainiac, the article you quoted was published on the 27th July. Here are articles that came out soon after the captures were made. ::)
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html (Forbes)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers.html (Hindustan Times)
http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348 (Bahrain News Agency)
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/12072006/202/liban-le-hezbollah-capture-deux-soldats-israeliens-sept-autres-tues.html (France yahoo)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Hezbollah_liban.html (English translation to what was reported on France Yahoo)
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1180404.php/Hezbollah_back_in_the_spotlight_after_capturing_soldiers
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hezbollah_soldiers2.html (AFP)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113428.htm (China)
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113491.htm (Israel confirmed the capture)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html (Asia Times)
http://www.voltairenet.org/article142056.html (How good is your Frecnh?)
Toppa .. yuh still miss meh point and meh scarcasm. :P
Yuh CANNOT categorically accuse Israel of being the only instigator in this conflict. and hold up Hezbolla as beyond reproach. The reports in the world media cannot be taken at face value. Yuh have to throw in some grains of salt in any report dat yuh read (especially from sites wid names like "antiwar.com" - :thinking: :thinking:hmm ah wonder wat dey point of view is????).
While my general sentiment is with the Israelis at this moment, ah not foolish enuf to tink dat deay are all angel.
An while your sentiments are with Hezbollah right now, ah jus hope yuh eh foolish enug to tink det are angels too. But den again ,who knows??
Ooooh sarcasm was it? It must have been the same "curious sarcasm" Jab Jab is infamous for. As I have just shown you, numerous news agents around the world confirmed that the two soldiers were captured in Lebanon, meaning...that the Israeli soldiers were, not according to me, but according to the AFP and a French News Site..."As the AFP reported, "According to the Lebanese police force, the two Israeli soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in the area of Aitaa al-Chaab, near to the border with Israel, where an Israeli unit had penetrated in middle of morning." And the French news site www.VoltaireNet.org reiterated the same account on June 18, "In a deliberated way, [Israel] sent a commando in the Lebanese back-country to Aitaa al-Chaab. It was attacked by Hezbollah, taking two prisoners." ( I already gave you the links to these two stories)
Therefore, the entire pretext of this current assault on Lebanon and Palestine is false. And you are wrong about my "sentiments being with Hezbollah" I just know right from wrong and when I see something that is injust I speak out about it. I guess it's the Sociologist in me. BTW 23 people were just killed in the Gaza strip.
Just because AFP publish sometime, dat mean it right???. After all Reuters publish a report today dat say it was in Israel. An Reuters is reputable. But because AFP publish dat before July 27, den dey must be right and Reuter mus be wrong? So who do you believe..? Two organization with two diffferent statements.
Wait nah man .....Ah see it now... ...you believe the one you want to be right. Ah now get the logic oui.
I'll say it one more time: the world press seldom get the story 100% accurate. So read everyting with grain of salt.
And doh come to such opinionated conclusions based on who you want to be wrong and who yuh believe should be right.
I wish it were so simple.
But look at Israel and Lebanon .... if it is was so simple, dey would not be fighting. Dey fighting for donkey years now. Regardless of where the incident took place on July 12, that was not the beginning. It started a long time ago.
Yuh say yuh know right from wrong. Yet the world is divided on this issue. So everybody who disagree wid you mus be real chupid oui. And dey have a lot of learned ppl who wid disagree with you (an I eh including myself in dat group -- I am just a simple boy from Tunapuna.
aii ya yaai
We all know what's going on in Lebanon ...
And we all know that the US support the Israel agressive on Lebanon.
Now , here is what I have to ask , why does the US support them ?
Is it just dirty politics ... Support the Ally no matter what they do or say , or do they actually have a reason , how far fetched it may be..
I don't know too much about this , but I know that Isreal is being very aggresive with the Lebanese population for something that they didn't do , could it be that this is just the Isrealis using a kind of half baked reason to bomb Lebanon , something they've been wanting to do for a looooong time..
Nigel Dookie.
:clown: :clown: :joker: :joker: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :joker: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :party: :party: :party: :party: :afro: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :party: :party: :party: :party: :joker: :joker: :joker: :salute: :mackdaddy:
*unfurling page*
First of all I'd like to thank my publicist Pecan without his efforts there would be no filler during the down times.........my most combatitive of managers Toppa...thanks to all the participants in this thread who have earned me some beer & wine money
Props to My man JabJab..if it were not for his level of dotishness to continue being sucked in...this thread would have never reached the dizzying heights that I knew can be acheived
I HAVE SO MANY people to thank,, but they're giving me the signal to get off...THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To the beast who dared bet mih...I eh go sell yuh out yet,,, ah know yuh lurkin and only post once to try and slow dong de ting...people tell mih bout yuh PM campaign too
Yuh have mih paypal account RUN MIH MORNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know what's going on in Lebanon ...
And we all know that the US support the Israel agressive on Lebanon.
Now , here is what I have to ask , why does the US support them ?
Is it just dirty politics ... Support the Ally no matter what they do or say , or do they actually have a reason , how far fetched it may be..
I don't know too much about this , but I know that Isreal is being very aggresive with the Lebanese population for something that they didn't do , could it be that this is just the Isrealis using a kind of half baked reason to bomb Lebanon , something they've been wanting to do for a looooong time..
Nigel Dookie.
It's a bit more complex that that but suffice it to say that the US is committed to the side of Israel no matter what. The US has taken the stance that Isreal has a right to exist and therefore anything that Isreal does vis a vis it neighbours is warranted.
There is also an extremely powerful Jewish lobby in Washington that looks out for Israeli interest so essentially the US' hands are tied even if they may want to do something differently.
We all know what's going on in Lebanon ...
And we all know that the US support the Israel agressive on Lebanon.
Now , here is what I have to ask , why does the US support them ?
Is it just dirty politics ... Support the Ally no matter what they do or say , or do they actually have a reason , how far fetched it may be..
I don't know too much about this , but I know that Isreal is being very aggresive with the Lebanese population for something that they didn't do , could it be that this is just the Isrealis using a kind of half baked reason to bomb Lebanon , something they've been wanting to do for a looooong time..
Nigel Dookie.
It's a bit more complex that that but suffice it to say that the US is committed to the side of Israel no matter what. The US has taken the stance that Isreal has a right to exist and therefore anything that Isreal does vis a vis it neighbours is warranted.
There is also an extremely powerful Jewish lobby in Washington that looks out for Israeli interest so essentially the US' hands are tied even if they may want to do something differently.
Pointman doh tell meh dis is yuh first post in dis thread yes lol
talk bout being late eh ;D
Dutty make another bet with yuh pardner..tell him we could make 25 pages LOL
:clown: :clown: :joker: :joker: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :joker: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :party: :party: :party: :party: :afro: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :party: :party: :party: :party: :joker: :joker: :joker: :salute: :mackdaddy:
*unfurling page*
First of all I'd like to thank my publicist Pecan without his efforts there would be no filler during the down times.........my most combatitive of managers Toppa...thanks to all the participants in this thread who have earned me some beer & wine money
Props to My man JabJab..if it were not for his level of dotishness to continue being sucked in...this thread would have never reached the dizzying heights that I knew can be acheived
I HAVE SO MANY people to thank,, but they're giving me the signal to get off...THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To the beast who dared bet mih...I eh go sell yuh out yet,,, ah know yuh lurkin and only post once to try and slow dong de ting...people tell mih bout yuh PM campaign too
Yuh have mih paypal account RUN MIH MORNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
very appropraite comments for your 500th post :beermug: :beermug:
yeah ribbit u to...but wait i didnt even notice dat...damn i coulda use it like walker to profile mehself. but in m case it woulda jus show everybody hwo i eh have one ass to do..lol ;D...so happy 1000 POST TO ME:dThe Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
very appropraite comments for your 500th post :beermug: :beermug:
look organic reach 1000. it would be nice if they had another set of levels for the uber-posters - i think after 500 its is hero warrior. after that the next thing is moderator ;D
organic, nice meeting you yesterday :beermug:
pecan...did u watch the daily show last night..i get educated highly about hamas and hezbollah dred..certain odde rppl in here shoulda watch it to..but then again...it might not help...(btw dutty how long u want this thread go on). if so..fire could still chooke u know...
yeah ribbit u to...but wait i didnt even notice dat...damn i coulda use it like walker to profile mehself. but in m case it woulda jus show everybody hwo i eh have one ass to do..lol ;D...so happy 1000 POST TO ME:dThe Palestinian gov't was democratically elected and because the US and Israel don't like who they chose to be their leaders they're deemed terrorists
Toppa, this is completely wrong. yes the us and israel do not like hamas. however, you are completely (probably deliberately) ignoring the history of hamas and their role in the intifada and specifically the attacks they have committed against israel. hamas is no 4-H club - read up on them first before you make statements like this. >:(
very appropraite comments for your 500th post :beermug: :beermug:
look organic reach 1000. it would be nice if they had another set of levels for the uber-posters - i think after 500 its is hero warrior. after that the next thing is moderator ;D
organic, nice meeting you yesterday :beermug:
well oh gorm pecan...ah know yuh like yuh national post...owned by can westpecan...did u watch the daily show last night..i get educated highly about hamas and hezbollah dred..certain odde rppl in here shoulda watch it to..but then again...it might not help...(btw dutty how long u want this thread go on). if so..fire could still chooke u know...
yeah ...watched it and could not help thinking about this thread lol
yuh remember de man name? someting "Ben" someting.
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
den in todays National Post Editorial --- "Hezbollah's hate, made in Iran" Some interesting statements. But as I told Toppa several times, yuh cyar accept what dey say in the press as gospel.
But one ting the Post did say was dat
" All this loss of life was caused by Hezbollah's decision to stage an unprovoked act of war on uncontested, sovereign Israeli soil two weeks ago."
So here is a National Cdn newspaper contradicting all the sources that Toppa quoted.
My point - we do not truly know the details.
More "stirring de pot" mite make dis thread go to 21 pages lol
well oh gorm pecan...ah know yuh like yuh national post...owned by can westpecan...did u watch the daily show last night..i get educated highly about hamas and hezbollah dred..certain odde rppl in here shoulda watch it to..but then again...it might not help...(btw dutty how long u want this thread go on). if so..fire could still chooke u know...
yeah ...watched it and could not help thinking about this thread lol
yuh remember de man name? someting "Ben" someting.
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
den in todays National Post Editorial --- "Hezbollah's hate, made in Iran" Some interesting statements. But as I told Toppa several times, yuh cyar accept what dey say in the press as gospel.
But one ting the Post did say was dat
" All this loss of life was caused by Hezbollah's decision to stage an unprovoked act of war on uncontested, sovereign Israeli soil two weeks ago."
So here is a National Cdn newspaper contradicting all the sources that Toppa quoted.
My point - we do not truly know the details.
More "stirring de pot" mite make dis thread go to 21 pages lol
But look at who own/does sit on de board of can west global...what kinda slant yuh tink dem fellahs go have
well oh gorm pecan...ah know yuh like yuh national post...owned by can westpecan...did u watch the daily show last night..i get educated highly about hamas and hezbollah dred..certain odde rppl in here shoulda watch it to..but then again...it might not help...(btw dutty how long u want this thread go on). if so..fire could still chooke u know...
yeah ...watched it and could not help thinking about this thread lol
yuh remember de man name? someting "Ben" someting.
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
den in todays National Post Editorial --- "Hezbollah's hate, made in Iran" Some interesting statements. But as I told Toppa several times, yuh cyar accept what dey say in the press as gospel.
But one ting the Post did say was dat
" All this loss of life was caused by Hezbollah's decision to stage an unprovoked act of war on uncontested, sovereign Israeli soil two weeks ago."
So here is a National Cdn newspaper contradicting all the sources that Toppa quoted.
My point - we do not truly know the details.
More "stirring de pot" mite make dis thread go to 21 pages lol
But look at who own/does sit on de board of can west global...what kinda slant yuh tink dem fellahs go have
exactly my point ... yuh cud find anyting to suport a particular point of view.
btw - dat was an editorial opinion as opposed to factual reporting. At least dat is de way i read it. I doh take it a face value.
i just read bout that the other day..so what is the main difference between the Sunni and Shiite and why dey ent like each other?
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
i just read bout that the other day..so what is the main difference between the Sunni and Shiite and why dey ent like each other?
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
also did allyuh know Iran isn't considered "Arab" but rather "Persian"?
ah keep seeing and hearing the word "Illuminatti" a lot lately..this has something to do with the New World Order theory i believe..allyuh know anything bout that too and if it related to this present conflict?
ah had some other questions last night but cant remeber them right now..ill hopefully remeber tonight lol
what happen..allyuh cant answer meh fleckign questions or what?..steups loli just read bout that the other day..so what is the main difference between the Sunni and Shiite and why dey ent like each other?
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
also did allyuh know Iran isn't considered "Arab" but rather "Persian"?
ah keep seeing and hearing the word "Illuminatti" a lot lately..this has something to do with the New World Order theory i believe..allyuh know anything bout that too and if it related to this present conflict?
ah had some other questions last night but cant remeber them right now..ill hopefully remeber tonight lol
Dutty ...yuh mite have to go for 25 now wid dis setta question.
TOPPA! TOPPA! where yuh gone? de man want some answers.
Dutty the Chavez ,Iran meeting really have nothing to do with ammunitions.That has to do with the fact that Iran wants to change the status quo.Yah see america has a lock on oil sales ,any country buying oil has to do so in US dollars ,this is what keeps there money afloat,what iran"s pres wants to do is say screw america their money is worth less .We give them barrels of oil and they give us worthless paper >:(
So the plan is move to at least euros,america"s not happy ,if this works the economy will crash,think 1932. So Iran looking for support in Vene.
Feliziano what you want,do you want the truth ?,can you handle the truth ;D
oh gorm doh start da illuminati ting nah...just direct feliz to de thread we was rollin last month...if he eh get headache from readin all de con-spiracy theories...den yuh could fix he mixah didnt realize it had a thread bout Illuminatti here before.
Dutty the Chavez ,Iran meeting really have nothing to do with ammunitions.That has to do with the fact that Iran wants to change the status quo.Yah see america has a lock on oil sales ,any country buying oil has to do so in US dollars ,this is what keeps there money afloat,what iran"s pres wants to do is say screw america their money is worth less .We give them barrels of oil and they give us worthless paper >:(
So the plan is move to at least euros,america"s not happy ,if this works the economy will crash,think 1932. So Iran looking for support in Vene.
Feliziano what you want,do you want the truth ?,can you handle the truth ;D
I disagree it is about ammunition...as america doesnt do diplomacy well and they cant do economic sanctions well...however the one thing dem fellahs does do extremely well..is war
with regard to the euro switch. I am aware that was one of the background reasons for invading iraq
However as you see, dem fellahs make up all kinda WMD and Democracy nancystories to justify dat move
Now given the fact that chavez. nationalize all de yankee oil co's,,,,,,is ah real good pardner with castro and does continuously badtalk bush in speeches
How long yuh think dem fellahs go take before dey invade caracas under the pretext of "freeing hostage americans" or "liberating the venezuelan people"...dey does done call chavez a dictator in white house press conferences even though de man legally elected
I personally eh tink dis go happen..cause dem boys busy in de middle east however if anyting was to play whey yuh think dey staging area go be...guyana,columbia or chag?
oh gorm doh start da illuminati ting nah...just direct feliz to de thread we was rollin last month...if he eh get headache from readin all de con-spiracy theories...den yuh could fix he mix
Dutty the Chavez ,Iran meeting really have nothing to do with ammunitions.That has to do with the fact that Iran wants to change the status quo.Yah see america has a lock on oil sales ,any country buying oil has to do so in US dollars ,this is what keeps there money afloat,what iran"s pres wants to do is say screw america their money is worth less .We give them barrels of oil and they give us worthless paper >:(
So the plan is move to at least euros,america"s not happy ,if this works the economy will crash,think 1932. So Iran looking for support in Vene.
Feliziano what you want,do you want the truth ?,can you handle the truth ;D
I disagree it is about ammunition...as america doesnt do diplomacy well and they cant do economic sanctions well...however the one thing dem fellahs does do extremely well..is war
with regard to the euro switch. I am aware that was one of the background reasons for invading iraq
However as you see, dem fellahs make up all kinda WMD and Democracy nancystories to justify dat move
Now given the fact that chavez. nationalize all de yankee oil co's,,,,,,is ah real good pardner with castro and does continuously badtalk bush in speeches
How long yuh think dem fellahs go take before dey invade caracas under the pretext of "freeing hostage americans" or "liberating the venezuelan people"...dey does done call chavez a dictator in white house press conferences even though de man legally elected
I personally eh tink dis go happen..cause dem boys busy in de middle east however if anyting was to play whey yuh think dey staging area go be...guyana,columbia or chag?
oh gorm doh start da illuminati ting nah...just direct feliz to de thread we was rollin last month...if he eh get headache from readin all de con-spiracy theories...den yuh could fix he mix
I think its a bit of both. Chavez has stated on countless occasions his intention to shift the balance of power. He also realises that that Americans (given their sterling record in International Diplomacy) will now or in the future attack his country to prevent this from occuring. He is in fact arming his nation to stave off an American assault. Moreover it is only prudent that a nation that possesses as much oil as they do invest in the defense of that precious resource especially when American vultures are lurking. I don't have a problem with Chavez exept for that shadey alliance with Iran. The Caribbean would be caught in the middle both militarily and economically if some serious were to break out.
Dutty the Chavez ,Iran meeting really have nothing to do with ammunitions.That has to do with the fact that Iran wants to change the status quo.Yah see america has a lock on oil sales ,any country buying oil has to do so in US dollars ,this is what keeps there money afloat,what iran"s pres wants to do is say screw america their money is worth less .We give them barrels of oil and they give us worthless paper >:(
So the plan is move to at least euros,america"s not happy ,if this works the economy will crash,think 1932. So Iran looking for support in Vene.
Feliziano what you want,do you want the truth ?,can you handle the truth ;D
I disagree it is about ammunition...as america doesnt do diplomacy well and they cant do economic sanctions well...however the one thing dem fellahs does do extremely well..is war
with regard to the euro switch. I am aware that was one of the background reasons for invading iraq
However as you see, dem fellahs make up all kinda WMD and Democracy nancystories to justify dat move
Now given the fact that chavez. nationalize all de yankee oil co's,,,,,,is ah real good pardner with castro and does continuously badtalk bush in speeches
How long yuh think dem fellahs go take before dey invade caracas under the pretext of "freeing hostage americans" or "liberating the venezuelan people"...dey does done call chavez a dictator in white house press conferences even though de man legally elected
I personally eh tink dis go happen..cause dem boys busy in de middle east however if anyting was to play whey yuh think dey staging area go be...guyana,columbia or chag?
oh gorm doh start da illuminati ting nah...just direct feliz to de thread we was rollin last month...if he eh get headache from readin all de con-spiracy theories...den yuh could fix he mix
I think its a bit of both. Chavez has stated on countless occasions his intention to shift the balance of power. He also realises that that Americans (given their sterling record in International Diplomacy) will now or in the future attack his country to prevent this from occuring. He is in fact arming his nation to stave off an American assault. Moreover it is only prudent that a nation that possesses as much oil as they do invest in the defense of that precious resource especially when American vultures are lurking. I don't have a problem with Chavez exept for that shadey alliance with Iran. The Caribbean would be caught in the middle both militarily and economically if some serious were to break out.
Lol . Allyuh into all kinda high lodgeman type ah talk dey.
I ent bright like allyuh fellas, but all I know for a fact is dat war is good for america.
De price of oil go up ...de us dollar get weak.... de us economy pick up ...more jobs .... check out dat an tell mih if ah lie ?
what happen..allyuh cant answer meh fleckign questions or what?..steups loli just read bout that the other day..so what is the main difference between the Sunni and Shiite and why dey ent like each other?
dat was educational . de sunni vs the shiite, the alliances of convenience, Syria, Iran, ..... too complicated for me.
also did allyuh know Iran isn't considered "Arab" but rather "Persian"?
ah keep seeing and hearing the word "Illuminatti" a lot lately..this has something to do with the New World Order theory i believe..allyuh know anything bout that too and if it related to this present conflict?
ah had some other questions last night but cant remeber them right now..ill hopefully remeber tonight lol
Dutty ...yuh mite have to go for 25 now wid dis setta question.
TOPPA! TOPPA! where yuh gone? de man want some answers.
ah abck what ah miss....wah toppa been saying..look 21 pages...is this a record yet
pealu vs roti?ah abck what ah miss....wah toppa been saying..look 21 pages...is this a record yet
back?? whey yuh went?
you eh miss nuttn....most of the thread kinda turn into whether using a pot of pelau as the logo for a political party will in fact have any positive significance in voter turnout
oh allyuh doh like war
cowards
Nah pealu vs blue food
I postulated the blue food on a political flag will cause voters in rural areas to go to the polling station in great numbers
Pelau being universal will cause and even greater turnout from semi rural and urban areas...the issue is the niche voters, how does one persuade people from e.g areas like Fairways & Goodwood Park to come out....what political dish can entice them?
Nah pealu vs blue food
I postulated the blue food on a political flag will cause voters in rural areas to go to the polling station in great numbers
Pelau being universal will cause and even greater turnout from semi rural and urban areas...the issue is the niche voters, how does one persuade people from e.g areas like Fairways & Goodwood Park to come out....what political dish can entice them?
Something stirfried maybe? with not too much fat?
Nah pealu vs blue food
I postulated the blue food on a political flag will cause voters in rural areas to go to the polling station in great numbers
Pelau being universal will cause and even greater turnout from semi rural and urban areas...the issue is the niche voters, how does one persuade people from e.g areas like Fairways & Goodwood Park to come out....what political dish can entice them?
Something stirfried maybe? with not too much fat?
Nah..Fairways FULL ah fat people,,, yuh hadda represent de community...ah tink ah macaroni pie will do
oh allyuh doh like war
cowards
Somebody else will answer the arab ver persian and illuminati - (or yuh cud get a brwoser with Google lol) :rotfl:
Somebody else will answer the arab ver persian and illuminati - (or yuh cud get a brwoser with Google lol) :rotfl:
Pecan..Thanks for answering the question on Sunni and Shiites :)
nah ah have Google..but just wanted to hear what a Trini understanding of it was nah.
So Compre..yuh saying the Saddam trial is not right(justified) or yuh trying to say it fake?..what bout this 33rd Parallel thing too?.. and yes, ah could handle de truth ;D
Morv..ah read the Bible..but was for just reading sake twice before..ah must say Revelations was scary and entertaining at the same time lol
so exactly where does todays events match up in de Bible?
gosh boy..yuh telling meh ah have to go read dat book agian? ;D
Somebody else will answer the arab ver persian and illuminati - (or yuh cud get a brwoser with Google lol) :rotfl:
Pecan..Thanks for answering the question on Sunni and Shiites :)
nah ah have Google..but just wanted to hear what a Trini understanding of it was nah.
So Compre..yuh saying the Saddam trial is not right(justified) or yuh trying to say it fake?..what bout this 33rd Parallel thing too?.. and yes, ah could handle de truth ;D
Morv..ah read the Bible..but was for just reading sake twice before..ah must say Revelations was scary and entertaining at the same time lol
so exactly where does todays events match up in de Bible?
read the books of daniel and then revelation and it go give ah whole different meaning
So yah want the truth,well ah ein"t sure this is it ,but ppl study this ting using family trees and history of cities ,to find why things happening.
Somebody else will answer the arab ver persian and illuminati - (or yuh cud get a brwoser with Google lol) :rotfl:
Pecan..Thanks for answering the question on Sunni and Shiites :)
nah ah have Google..but just wanted to hear what a Trini understanding of it was nah.
So Compre..yuh saying the Saddam trial is not right(justified) or yuh trying to say it fake?..what bout this 33rd Parallel thing too?.. and yes, ah could handle de truth ;D
Morv..ah read the Bible..but was for just reading sake twice before..ah must say Revelations was scary and entertaining at the same time lol
so exactly where does todays events match up in de Bible?
Heard of the massacre in Qana people? And the carnage continues.
So yah want the truth,well ah ein"t sure this is it ,but ppl study this ting using family trees and history of cities ,to find why things happening.
Somebody else will answer the arab ver persian and illuminati - (or yuh cud get a brwoser with Google lol) :rotfl:
Pecan..Thanks for answering the question on Sunni and Shiites :)
nah ah have Google..but just wanted to hear what a Trini understanding of it was nah.
So Compre..yuh saying the Saddam trial is not right(justified) or yuh trying to say it fake?..what bout this 33rd Parallel thing too?.. and yes, ah could handle de truth ;D
Morv..ah read the Bible..but was for just reading sake twice before..ah must say Revelations was scary and entertaining at the same time lol
so exactly where does todays events match up in de Bible?
But dutty getting vex,and he tell me they drag Pioneer Trini back in the bush for talking :rotfl:,so he have me little paro (http://forums.invisionpower.com/style_emoticons/default/fear.gif)
Ah never say saddam trial is fake ah say the saddam in jail in fake. The 33rd parallel is interesting ,it has
lot of am <clears troat > occult activities here.In America along it has the bohemian groove ,the headquaarters of the church of scientology,they tested the A bomb.Around the world ,cities like heroshima , Jeruselem ,paramids that city Isreal bombed Bahl someting <note the name Bahl>.
The point is why did they put Isreal ,in a spot where there knew they would they would be hated as much as in Germany.Then allways helping Isreal invade the holy land,they want something..............They want Jerusalem ,and King Solomons old temple. ::)
This has 33 stuff http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/33rd-parallel-masonic-line-of-death-row-human-sacrifice-ritual
somewhere in here
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somewhere in here
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forth row from the front, 7th person from the left
Heard of the massacre in Qana people? And the carnage continues.
Yeah .. Hezbollah using Human Shields effectively and Israel doh seem to care if they kill the shields.
Hezbollah in a win-win situation -
If Israel does nothing, then Hezbollah can continue their rocket fire against Israeli civilians unabated.
If Israel fights back and cause civilian casualties, Hezbollah wins a propaganda victory (see Qana)
btw - depending on whose account yuh read, the two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped on uncontested Israeli land or on uncontested Lebanon land.
an BTW again .. were de hell is the Lebanese Government? Why dey allowing Hezbollah to hide their rockets amongst civilians?
The way the war going, Lebanon will be wasted. Sad, so sad.
ah think ah figure it out..USA and Israel want to attack Syria from both sides lolHeard of the massacre in Qana people? And the carnage continues.
Yeah .. Hezbollah using Human Shields effectively and Israel doh seem to care if they kill the shields.
Hezbollah in a win-win situation -
If Israel does nothing, then Hezbollah can continue their rocket fire against Israeli civilians unabated.
If Israel fights back and cause civilian casualties, Hezbollah wins a propaganda victory (see Qana)
btw - depending on whose account yuh read, the two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped on uncontested Israeli land or on uncontested Lebanon land.
an BTW again .. were de hell is the Lebanese Government? Why dey allowing Hezbollah to hide their rockets amongst civilians?
The way the war going, Lebanon will be wasted. Sad, so sad.
You are so hilarious.
ah think ah figure it out..USA and Israel want to attack Syria from both sides lolHeard of the massacre in Qana people? And the carnage continues.
Yeah .. Hezbollah using Human Shields effectively and Israel doh seem to care if they kill the shields.
Hezbollah in a win-win situation -
If Israel does nothing, then Hezbollah can continue their rocket fire against Israeli civilians unabated.
If Israel fights back and cause civilian casualties, Hezbollah wins a propaganda victory (see Qana)
btw - depending on whose account yuh read, the two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped on uncontested Israeli land or on uncontested Lebanon land.
an BTW again .. were de hell is the Lebanese Government? Why dey allowing Hezbollah to hide their rockets amongst civilians?
The way the war going, Lebanon will be wasted. Sad, so sad.
You are so hilarious.
i thought that Hezbollah was primarily in the south of Lebanon..what is dis i hearing bout Isreal wanting to move troops to the north east?..this looking like an occupation in a few more weeks
Lawd yes..what de hell dem going an do with 50 warheads?i thought that Hezbollah was primarily in the south of Lebanon..what is dis i hearing bout Isreal wanting to move troops to the north east?..this looking like an occupation in a few more weeks
They've called up 30,000 reserves, so it seems as if they're going for another occupation of Lebanon. But I just read here http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article1199351.ece that the US just closed a nuclear arms deal with India which would enable them to produce 50 more nuclear war-heads a yr than they are now capable. What's their case against Iran again?
Lawd yes..what de hell dem going an do with 50 warheads?i thought that Hezbollah was primarily in the south of Lebanon..what is dis i hearing bout Isreal wanting to move troops to the north east?..this looking like an occupation in a few more weeks
They've called up 30,000 reserves, so it seems as if they're going for another occupation of Lebanon. But I just read here http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article1199351.ece that the US just closed a nuclear arms deal with India which would enable them to produce 50 more nuclear war-heads a yr than they are now capable. What's their case against Iran again?
ah wonder what kinda deal dey go give Pakistan now..steups
like Bush and dem in a hurry to end de world yes
Those bloody Hezbollah militants! Quit using vans carrying humanitarian aid to Southern Lebanon as shields so the Israelis won't be forced to blow them the phu*ue up!
Right Pecan? ::)
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1833143,00.html
Palestinians Love to Hate
Condoleezza Rice
Rice is the Raven", "a terrorist and child murderer"
"I need more [children's] blood [to drink]"
"Americans are talented at igniting crisis... They are like mosquitoes that need a swamp to fly above."
By Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook- July 30, 2006
Above and beyond the steady anti-American hatred promoted by the Palestinian Authority (PA) leaders for years, they seem to have a special penchant for hating Condoleezza Rice. Some of the attacks have included expressions of racial hatred, as in an article this week referring to Rice as a "raven" and a previous article that referred to her as "the colored... the dark skinned... the black lady." [see PMW Bulletin]
In another racist article attacking Condolezza Rice, the PA daily referred to her as the ”black woman” [three times], the “black spinster” and continues that he even considered the term “black widow” but rejected it. Her father is called the "black clergyman” [who filled her head with Bible stories] and Colin Powell is the “black man”, the “black gentleman” and even the “brave and moderate black.”
All appeared in the official PA daily, then controlled by Arafat, today under Mahmoud Abbas.
This week a cartoon mocked her hope for the birth of a new Middle East by drawing Rice pregnant with a monkey.
Boy these Palestinians media outlets really know how to get in touch with people of african descent in America.
Clink on the link if you're interestedin seeing the picture.
http://www.pmw.org.il/LatestBulletins.htm
You eh lie. If yuh doh like the administration that is fine attack them all you want but doh bring race into it because lord knows there are plenty arab/middle eastern etc stereotypes and insults that could be sent right back to dem. Not too mention plenty black people in the U.S. actually support the palestinian cause.
You eh lie. If yuh doh like the administration that is fine attack them all you want but doh bring race into it because lord knows there are plenty arab/middle eastern etc stereotypes and insults that could be sent right back to dem. Not too mention plenty black people in the U.S. actually support the palestinian cause.
I sure rice has been called worse in de state she grow up in
I think race will inevitably play a part because of what/who rice represents,, to them she represents an ally of israel thus death...to us its a mediating peace broker....in 99.9% of photo-ops at home or abroad she is like a raisin in ah glass of milk...yuh cyah pussyfoot around dat
Seems to me they had positive things to say about Powell.
Is not polite diplomats printin dem papers, it's regular common man
this thread keeps going and going and going..lol
lol..for real but some ah de basket some ppl dishing out..is mor elike JOOKINgthis thread keeps going and going and going..lol
well, using words from another thread, some ppl on this thread "chooking fire" lol
You eh lie. If yuh doh like the administration that is fine attack them all you want but doh bring race into it because lord knows there are plenty arab/middle eastern etc stereotypes and insults that could be sent right back to dem. Not too mention plenty black people in the U.S. actually support the palestinian cause.
I sure rice has been called worse in de state she grow up in
I think race will inevitably play a part because of what/who rice represents,, to them she represents an ally of israel thus death...to us its a mediating peace broker....in 99.9% of photo-ops at home or abroad she is like a raisin in ah glass of milk...yuh cyah pussyfoot around dat
Seems to me they had positive things to say about Powell.
Is not polite diplomats printin dem papers, it's regular common man
Nah man, dem hate bush like de devil but doh say nothing about his race. Common man or not these are journalist printing this in the main PA daily [palestinian authority daily] newspaper. So as usual when black people agree we is friends but if you doh like what we doing yer start de racist talk?? But there will be little or no outcry in the states becuase she is 1]republican 2]a member of the bush cabinet. Had that been said about Jesse jackson or somebody else. People over here would have been up in arms!! But say wha. good ting she have tough skin yes.
dutty like u get into the topic serious i like it man
So Iwas thinking Iran say a few months ago Isreal gonna get wipe out.Now over 2000 missiles hit isreal,I beleive Hisbolla is really a mix of iranian national guardsmen in disguise .This is a proxy war ,lebennon is a front to attack ,isreal so that ireal won"t nuke Iran ;)
I beleive Isreal pay for all there armaments,and that they have one of the most sophisticated armies in the world.And if they drive hisbolla back and it reach the border of iran and it spills over .............well we never know what might happen.No guarantee a nuke over there will affect us over here. :devil:So Iwas thinking Iran say a few months ago Isreal gonna get wipe out.Now over 2000 missiles hit isreal,I beleive Hisbolla is really a mix of iranian national guardsmen in disguise .This is a proxy war ,lebennon is a front to attack ,isreal so that ireal won"t nuke Iran ;)
Anytime Israel fight is ah proxy war....where yuh tink all their armaments does come from?
I eh think anybody in dey right mind go use nukes....cause once dat start...tings done for everybody
well no one eh sure if iran ahve a nuclear weapon cause they nevre test any...but everyone sure isreal have cause de cia "stole" soome from the USa BACK IND E 60'S AND SOLD IT TO ISRAEL.I beleive Isreal pay for all there armaments,and that they have one of the most sophisticated armies in the world.And if they drive hisbolla back and it reach the border of iran and it spills over .............well we never know what might happen.No guarantee a nuke over there will affect us over here. :devil:So Iwas thinking Iran say a few months ago Isreal gonna get wipe out.Now over 2000 missiles hit isreal,I beleive Hisbolla is really a mix of iranian national guardsmen in disguise .This is a proxy war ,lebennon is a front to attack ,isreal so that ireal won"t nuke Iran ;)
Anytime Israel fight is ah proxy war....where yuh tink all their armaments does come from?
I eh think anybody in dey right mind go use nukes....cause once dat start...tings done for everybody
if iran doesn't have nuclear weapons they can just ask their neighbour that has the big petro interests in iran for a hand - russia backing iran for sure. russia have lots of "loose" nuclear weapons - the kind that can find their way into iran's hands if the time comes. i think that is what is making the usa tread lightly - because they are having trouble gauging russia's reaction to having all their investments in iran under attack by an overly ambitious israel.
but before israel get to iran, they have to deal with syria. ha'aretz already giving rundown of the syrian military capabilities. three fronts - syria, lebanon and gaza? israel would have to be mad to extend themselves so far.
EDIT: BTW, this scenario of russia conflicting with israel, i've been told, is a sign of the second coming. russia is supposed to be the scattered remnants of the biblical land of gog and magog. when gog attacks israel, then we are in the last days. i'm getting this secondhand so i can't vouch for the details.
if iran doesn't have nuclear weapons they can just ask their neighbour that has the big petro interests in iran for a hand - russia backing iran for sure. russia have lots of "loose" nuclear weapons - the kind that can find their way into iran's hands if the time comes. i think that is what is making the usa tread lightly - because they are having trouble gauging russia's reaction to having all their investments in iran under attack by an overly ambitious israel.
but before israel get to iran, they have to deal with syria. ha'aretz already giving rundown of the syrian military capabilities. three fronts - syria, lebanon and gaza? israel would have to be mad to extend themselves so far.
EDIT: BTW, this scenario of russia conflicting with israel, i've been told, is a sign of the second coming. russia is supposed to be the scattered remnants of the biblical land of gog and magog. when gog attacks israel, then we are in the last days. i'm getting this secondhand so i can't vouch for the details.
wHILE rUSSIA DOES HAVE "LOOSE NUCLEAR WEAPONS"AS YOU PUT IT, THEY WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO GET TO Iran. Infact Russia will side with the USA if it comes to that. Besides Russia has its own hands full with Checnya (sp) rebels and muslim insurgents.
And if I may remind you, Israel effectively dealt with all of the arab threat during the 6 days war. I agree that israel is a bully but.......All those arab countries already tried to attack Israel and in a mere SIX (6) days they were routed by the Israeli Armed Forces. Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria decided to attack Israel and got theor asses whipped so badly, that to this day they cannot recover...i doh think dey ready fuh Israel at all, at all, please doh equate Israeli capabilities in dealing with terrorists with the usa...dey much better trained and prepared..it will be a rout!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
Enjoy ...
All you pro-Isreali's...don't suggest you watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
Enjoy ...
All you pro-Isreali's...don't suggest you watch this.
Their ratings is probably be real high when he is a guest.
He woulda never get to talk so long in the states.
U cud see him on Bill O'Reilly show :o
Worse yet in the studio....dem woulda fight.
Their ratings is probably be real high when he is a guest.
He woulda never get to talk so long in the states.
U cud see him on Bill O'Reilly show :o
Worse yet in the studio....dem woulda fight.
Yeah man,,in de states he get he 15 minutes of fame too...but of course dem FOXy fellahs reduce him to mr soundbite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk&eurl=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
Enjoy ...
All you pro-Isreali's...don't suggest you watch this.
Peace in de Middle East..steups ;D
well both sides accept the peace proposal
it comes into effect quite on Monday
so in the meantime Israel pushing more and more troops as far north as fast as they could in order to occupy more of Lebanon..then they go turn it over to the UN.
ah wonder if during the ceasefire phase Isreal get ah call and somebody say the head man of Hizbollah travelling in ah taxi..if Israel go send in ah drone fuh he tail?
ah know isreal wont really care..but wouldnt that be illegal?
It never ends
Here is a timeline and update on Lebanon
TIMELINE, Reuters
February, 2005
Former prime minister Rafik alHariri is killed by a bomb in Beirut. Two months later, under international pressure, Syria ends its 29year military presence in Lebanon. J
July, 2006
Israel strikes Lebanon after Hezbollah guerrillas abduct Israeli soldiers. At least 1,200 people die in Lebanon in 34 days of fighting.
November, 2006
Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel is killed by gunmen as his convoy drives through the Christian Sin el-Fil neighbourhood of Beirut.
December, 2006
The opposition, which also includes the Shiite Amal faction and Christian leader Michel Aoun, begins an open-ended campaign in central Beirut to topple the government.
January, 2007
A general strike is called by the Hezbollah-led opposition to dislodge Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and his proWestern government.
March, 2007
Rivals antiSyrian majority leader Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim, and Shiite Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, a key opposition leader, meet for the first time in four months to discuss ways to end the political crisis.
May 20-21, 2007
Lebanese troops battle al Qaeda-linked militants, members of the Fatah al-Islam militant group, in northern Lebanon and at least 71 people are killed, 27 of them soldiers, after security forces raid homes in Tripoli to arrest suspects accused of robbing a bank a day earlier.
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REFUGEE CAMP A BATTLEFIELD
Thousands flee deadly fighting in Lebanon, Militants threaten to move the battle beyond Tripoli
BY NAZIH SIDDIQ
NAHR AL-BARED, LEBANON
Battles engulfed a Palestinian refugee camp in north Lebanon yesterday in the second day of fighting between the Lebanese army and al-Qaeda-inspired militants that has killed 79 people.
Black smoke billowed from the Nahr al-Bared camp, home to 40,000 Palestinians, as tanks shelled positions held by Fatah al-Islam fighters hitting back with machine gun and grenade fire.
Palestinians in the camp said thousands had fled their homes on the edges of Nahr al-Bared, where fighting was most intense, to shelter deeper inside the coastal camp in north Lebanon.
We are under siege, Palestinian Hisham Yacoub said by telephone from within the camp. Theres no water, no electricity or milk for the children, said Mohammed Abu Laila, also talking by phone from the camp.
The fighting had stopped United Nations and Red Cross workers from delivering essential supplies. More than 150 people had been wounded and dozens of homes destroyed, Palestinian sources said.
Abu Salim, a spokesman for Fatah al-Islam, threatened to ignite violence elsewhere if the army did not ease its bombardment. If the situation stays like this, we will not be silent and will definitely move the battle outside [the nearby city] of Tripoli, he said by telephone.
ah kinda confused too
who against who and for what reasons exactly?
all ah know so far is dat some Islamic militant group (with Al-Qaieda style principles) inside a Palestinian refugee camp which is inside Lebanon.
so is Lebanon trying to crush them to make it look like they fighting terrorism?
where Hezbollah and Hamas in all dis?
where David Nahkid too? ;D
Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran
May 22, 2007 6:29 PM
The CIA has received secret presidential approval to mount a covert "black" operation to destabilize the Iranian government, current and former officials in the intelligence community tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com.