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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Grande on July 17, 2006, 12:40:51 AM
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Skysports.com
Brazil captain Cafu insists he will resist calls for him to retire from international football.
The 36-year-old was unable to lead his country to back-to-back World Cup titles after Brazil lost to France in the quarter finals.
The team's exit has sparked calls for the old guard to make way for the younger generation in order to prepare fully for the 2010 tournament in South Africa.
Roberto Carlos has already quit playing for his country, but Cafu, despite his advancing years, is not planning to follow suit.
The Milan full back is aware of the clamour for him to retire from representing Brazil, but he feels Germany was merely a blip for the national team.
"I am not a thief," affirmed Cafu. "I feel that everyone looks at me as if I would have stolen something.
"I am not the person they think I am. Cafu is a normal person that, unfortunately, has lost the World Cup.
"I want to say to the supporters that the image that they should keep from me is the one they had in 2002, but the press is being very unfair with me and only shows the defeat we had this year.
"My career shows that I had more victories than defeats. What happened in Germany is only an accident.
"I can't resign from the national team after my first defeat, despite the fact many people are doing all that is possible to make me go.
"I am going to keep on playing for Brazil each time I am recalled to the team."
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Not sure why it is such a big deal for footballers to quit international football if they don't want to. When they are no longer good enough, they should no longer be selected. But nothing is wrong with making yourself available until that time. I think it's cool when players make that call themselves, but i have no problem with Cafu's attitude..if you are good enough to play for a club, then you have the right to keep yourself open for your country...country comes first. You may no longer be good enough to actually make the national team, so you don't get selected and that is a 'natural' form of international retirement. Now, the problem arises when you have a coach that refuses to pick youth over experience, and plays a declining veteran over a better youngster, wasting the talent of the new generation and hurting the team. Unfortunately, this happens pretty regularly. But so long as that is not the case, then let selection take its course and cafu will 'retire' soon, when he can no longer make the grade....some would say that is right now ;) But in all fairness, he shouldn't have to make an official statement. I don't think Rivaldo has retired yet. Just let nature take its course..and who knows..they may hit a season of deadly form and get a last couple of games to bow out in the style that great champions like them deserve...weirder things have happened
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I kinda agree. It is his right to continue to make himself available for selection. It is also the coach's right not to pick him.
In my opinion, he has no place on the team. Cicinho is clearly much better than him right now. That takes nothing away from his stellar career.
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I kinda agree. It is his right to continue to make himself available for selection. It is also the coach's right not to pick him.
In my opinion, he has no place on the team. Cicinho is clearly much better than him right now. That takes nothing away from his stellar career.
I still feel that Cicinho have to lean to defend before he take cafu spot totally...He aint quite there yet.
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I kinda agree. It is his right to continue to make himself available for selection. It is also the coach's right not to pick him.
In my opinion, he has no place on the team. Cicinho is clearly much better than him right now. That takes nothing away from his stellar career.
I still feel that Cicinho have to lean to defend before he take cafu spot totally...He aint quite there yet.
You couldn't be talking about Cafu this world Cup. The man was a near-embarassment.......He was coming off a long injury too and it showed....slow, stiff & unable to command the right side. The one game that Cicinho played, he covered more ground than Cafu did in the four other games put together.......Despite his defensive short-comings Cicinho is more than ready to take Cafu's spot.....
I do agree that Cafu has the right to declare himself available for games as long as he feels he is good enough.....it's up to the coach not to pick him.
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it have a next youthman who real impress me...daniel alves i think is his name (the right back from sevilla). i heard them bandy about his name as a possible contender for the right back slot. cafu needs to ride off into the sunset.
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Horse why Brazil eh run d confed cup squad dred?
dat side was fire
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it have a next youthman who real impress me...daniel alves i think is his name (the right back from sevilla). i heard them bandy about his name as a possible contender for the right back slot. cafu needs to ride off into the sunset.
yeah danny alves is a real boss player.. IMHO better than cicinho because...
- he can defend (he put de black hole on downing in de uefa cup final)
- he can cross
- he can shoot
- he have more brains
liverpool trying hard to get him....
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I don't think Rivaldo has retired yet. Just let nature take its course..and who knows..they may hit a season of deadly form and get a last couple of games to bow out in the style that great champions like them deserve...weirder things have happened
Yeah, Rivaldo never retired. He always lamented not being picked fuh the squad after 2002, where I thought he was a better overall player than Ronaldo.
Rivaldo was in ripping club form before the world cup, highest scorer and saving Olympiacos' Champions League hopes, but no matter what yuh do for Brazil, they not going to pick you if you playing yuh football in Greece. Not to mention Kaka was rippin up Serie A.
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wasnt Rivaldo permanently injured after he got that ball in his face from the turkish player ?
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wasnt Rivaldo permanently injured after he got that ball in his face from the turkish player ?
;) sarcasm at its best
i think his WC winner's medal got rid of the excruciating pain
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wasnt Rivaldo permanently injured after he got that ball in his face from the turkish player ?
yeah that ball-to-face gave him a permanent thigh strain....or maybe it was the other way around ;D
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Rivaldo to call time on career
By Fotis Voinikas - Created on 17 Jul 2006
Brazilian playmaker Rivaldo has announced he will retire at the end of the coming season.
The 34-year-old attacking midfielder won the World Cup in 2002, but has been playing for the last two seasons in the Greek Alpha Ethniki for Olympiakos.
He has added to his already glittering trophy cabinet over the last two terms with two Greek cups and two championships domestically, but has now told a sports paper in the country that he is ready to hang up his boots.
"I have already made up my mind. This is going to be my last season as a footballer. I want to finish my career with Olympiakos' shirt," he told Potathlitis.
"I want to do something great next season and then I will go to Brazil to get some rest, but I assure everyone that this doesn't mean that I am not going to try my best in my last season as a footballer of Olympiakos.
"I want to achieve something more with Olympiakos and I hope that the other players and I can make it. This is how I want to leave Olympiakos and the football fields."
Rivaldo started out as a professional at the age of 16 in 1989 with Santa Cruz, and he moved around Brazil before winning a transfer to Deportivo La Coruna in 1996.
He was named the World and European Footballer of the Year in 1999 when at Barcelona, and then won the UEFA Champions League with Milan in 2003 and make an impact on the European stage again last season.
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sigh. i guess i will not see any more of his trademark bicycle kick goals...that bandy leg man is a player sah...skill for days.
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Boy...first Lara, then Ato...now to find out even Rivaldo from the Cruz
big up Santa Cruz!
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put a smiley face on that, men might think yuh serious, and call yuh a yankee for being geographically ignorant.... ;D
Santa Cruz run tings !!
For those of you who forgot about the boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS8b8Q5bs2s&search=rivaldo
Enjoy !!
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One of my favourite players hanging up his boots. One of de best the world ever saw. :beermug:
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put a smiley face on that, men might think yuh serious, and call yuh a yankee for being geographically ignorant.... ;D
Santa Cruz run tings !!
For those of you who forgot about the boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS8b8Q5bs2s&search=rivaldo
Enjoy !!
Real nice video, Brazil coulda use some of that skills in this WC ;D
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Thanks for that video Kicker :beermug:
One of the great pure left-footed players . Maradona of course and Puskas
come to mind also.
Any other great left footers? Rivelino maybe?
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I wished he had made the squad in Germany.. that woulda be nice to see him off...He had us well entertained in WC 2002...
All great players has to retire some time...
:applause:
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rivaldo.......................wat a boss!!!
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put a smiley face on that, men might think yuh serious, and call yuh a yankee for being geographically ignorant.... ;D
Santa Cruz run tings !!
For those of you who forgot about the boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS8b8Q5bs2s&search=rivaldo
Enjoy !!
hahaha
I leaving it just so. Leh somebody feel I really tink Rivaldo from Santa Cruz, Trinidad...
and Santa Cruz really run things
Rivaldo is the man!
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De man is a legend
talk done
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Rivaldo woos Ze Roberto
By Fotis Voinikas
(http://images.skysports.com/images/playerpics05_06/WorldCup2006/Brazil/zeroberto.jpg)
Brazilian Rivaldo has been trying to use his influence to lure countryman Ze Roberto to join him at Olympiakos.
Thirty-four-year-old Rivaldo has already announced he will retire at the end of the season, but he has also been trying to secure the longer-term future of the Greek champions by wooing the 32-year-old World Cup midfielder to the Georgios Karaiskakis.
Ze Roberto is available on a Bosman free transfer after declining the offer of a new deal from Bayern Munich at the end of last season.
He has been linked with Bordeaux and a number of other European giants, but Rivaldo has revealed a few home truths to the player as well.
"I spoke with Ze Roberto two days ago and said a lot about Olympiakos," Rivaldo admitted.
"He asked me information about the club and everything regarding Olympiakos.
"I said to him that everything is fantastic, not because I wanted to convince him to come here, but because this is the truth.
"I play for a club that every player dreams of playing for. I told Ze Roberto that I have felt like a king for these two years in Greece with Olympiakos. I don't miss anything here. I have everything.
"I asked him what is his decision about his future and he told me that he has offers from Milan, Real Madrid and a club from Japan but he hasn't decided yet. We agreed to speak again by phone."
The Greeks will be anxious to sign any new players sooner rather than later, with the new Greek season scheduled to kick-off on the weekend of August 20-21.
Kingman
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
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Cafu need to retire gracefully and start playing with Bebeto and them in charity games
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
Usually they give the number 10 to the one that stands out in de team...this is universal...Pele, Maradona, Latapy, Baggio, Owen, Totti etc...Rivaldo was #10 since before 1998...now that he is off the national team Ronaldinho seems the most natural heir.
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
Usually they give the number 10 to the one that stands out in de team...this is universal...Pele, Maradona, Latapy, Baggio, Owen, Totti etc...Rivaldo was #10 since before 1998...now that he is off the national team Ronaldinho seems the most natural heir.
Baggio was #10 ?
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
Usually they give the number 10 to the one that stands out in de team...this is universal...Pele, Maradona, Latapy, Baggio, Owen, Totti etc...Rivaldo was #10 since before 1998...now that he is off the national team Ronaldinho seems the most natural heir.
Baggio was #10 ?
yeah, at least in the '94 world cup
edit: according to match reports he wore 15 in Italia 90 (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/pwc/mr_263.html) and 18 in France 98 (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/pwc/mr_8757.html)
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
Usually they give the number 10 to the one that stands out in de team...this is universal...Pele, Maradona, Latapy, Baggio, Owen, Totti etc...Rivaldo was #10 since before 1998...now that he is off the national team Ronaldinho seems the most natural heir.
Baggio was #10 ?
yeah, at least in the '94 world cup
edit: according to match reports he wore 15 in Italia 90 (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/pwc/mr_263.html) and 18 in France 98 (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/pwc/mr_8757.html)
kewl....I just didn't remember, but I always thought of him as other than #10.....
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
Usually they give the number 10 to the one that stands out in de team...this is universal...Pele, Maradona, Latapy, Baggio, Owen, Totti etc...Rivaldo was #10 since before 1998...now that he is off the national team Ronaldinho seems the most natural heir.
Well I know that. I meant the first match he played in the number 10 shirt
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i just watched the rivaldo video and i see theplay between him and ronaldinho in 2002.
Tell me something. when Ronaldinho 'graduate' from number 11 to number 10? Anybody know?
Usually they give the number 10 to the one that stands out in de team...this is universal...Pele, Maradona, Latapy, Baggio, Owen, Totti etc...Rivaldo was #10 since before 1998...now that he is off the national team Ronaldinho seems the most natural heir.
Well I know that. I meant the first match he played in the number 10 shirt
5th September, 2004. A WC qualifer vs. Bolivia. Luis Fabiano was #10 for two matches before that, and in all the qualifers up till then it was Rivaldo as #10.
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You mad boy
Bag was Mr. number 10 self
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You mad boy
Bag was Mr. number 10 self
Yeah daz good talk.......but my most vivid memories of Baggio was when he was #15 in WC 1990....I guess he wasn't senior enough to command the #10 yet...
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Parreira quits after Brazil's disappointment
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RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) - Carlos Alberto Parreira quit as coach of Brazil on Wednesday, just three weeks after the team was stunned 1-0 by France and eliminated in the quarterfinals of the World Cup.
Winners of quarterfinal matches played on the same day, face each other in the semifinals on July 4 and 5.
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Parreira said he wanted to rest and spend time with his family after four years at the helm of the five-time World Cup champions, the Brazil Soccer Confederation (CBF) said in a statement.
"After meeting this morning ... with CBF President Ricardo Teixeira, coach Carlos Alberto Parreira resigned from the Brazilian national team," the CBF said.
The CBF said the decision was made jointly and that "from today on, Parreira will no longer have a professional link with the Brazilian Soccer Confederation."
Parreira, who coached Brazil to its fourth Cup title in 1994, had a roster laden with all-stars, making it an odds-on favorite to win the World Cup.
But the team looked lethargic in its early wins against Croatia, Australia, Japan and Ghana - none of them soccer powers. In a quarterfinal match against France, which beat Brazil 3-0 in the 1998 Cup final, Thierry Henry scored the lone goal and sent Brazil home early.
The Brazil confederation did not immediately name a replacement for Parreira. The club is to face Norway in a friendly game in Oslo on Aug. 16.
There has been speculation about Parreira's successor for weeks. The top choice was Luiz Felipe Scolari, who led Brazil to its fifth World Cup title in 2002, but he has renewed his contract with Portugal until 2008.
The contenders include former national team coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo of Santos; Paulo Autuori, who coached Sao Paulo to the Copa Libertadores and world club championship last year; Muricy Ramalho, Sao Paulo's current coach; and Dunga, the captain of Brazil's 1994 champion, but who has no coaching experience.
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So Parreira quit....he had them playing sweet sweet ball all thru the qualifiers and ESP the Confederations Cup...like he do a complete 180 for the World Cup
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So Parreira quit....he had them playing sweet sweet ball all thru the qualifiers and ESP the Confederations Cup...like he do a complete 180 for the World Cup
Parreira eh really do a 180...at least not tactically. But he made some big mistakes with personel. He brought in Cafu in place of Cicinho after Cafu was injured all season and barely played for Milan. And he played an increasingly out of form R Carlos instead of Gilberto. In all fairness to him, some of his key players just came out flat...Kaka had 2 decent games and then disappeared..Ronaldinho never came out the gates, Adriano sill struggling to find last year's form and Ronaldo show up fat and out of shape. Parreira did not have the guts to tinker with the lineup and so we didn't see enough of Robinho nor Fred. The team that played against Japan should ahve been kept for the rest of the tourney, but even then..if they played badlya nd lost to Ghana everyone would have blamed Parreira for thinking a team that beat a poor Japan was really the answer (I think it was..but who de hell is me?) What kill Brazil is the arrogance of Parreira and the CBF to only play warm up matches against absolutely shit sides. If they ahd play a couple of decent teams and collect some good cutass, they woulda iron out some kinks before the Cup
Finally, Brazil's confederation Cup squad was also not as good as people 'remember'. Remember that is the same side that get manners from Mexico and then struggle to tie with Japan. They were decent against a German team that really wasn't that good, yet...but then they explode in the final against Argentina and everyone went crazy. Expectations were always a bit exaggerated based on one game. The potential to be great was there but there was no consistency to justify feeling they would always play like that. Brazil had to come into the tourney with all cylinders firing to mimic that Confed Cup final...but that was not the case. The rest is history
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Shin surgery for Ronaldo
Source: - Football.co.uk
(http://www.football.co.uk/shared/images/news/ronaldo2.jpg)
Real Madrid striker Ronaldo may be struggling to be fit for the start of the La Liga season after undergoing an operation on his left shin in Brazil.
The 29-year-old is expected to be sidelined for a month after having the surgery.
Brazilian national team doctor Jose Luiz Runco said: "He could start to train with the ball in four weeks. We must hope that the wound heals."
Real Madrid doctor Alfonso del Corral added: "The Brazilian Football Confederation and Real Madrid always work together. I have never had problems with the Brazilian FA."
Kingman
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put a smiley face on that, men might think yuh serious, and call yuh a yankee for being geographically ignorant.... ;D
Santa Cruz run tings !!
For those of you who forgot about the boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS8b8Q5bs2s&search=rivaldo
Enjoy !!
lord boy kicker boy yuh bring back memories dey
Rivaldo and Kluivert the wickedest combination since Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder
oh and Rivaldo from Santa Cruz............... Pax Vale to be exact
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Since he was going under the knife, he should have considered gastric bypass one time...
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Since he was going under the knife, he should have considered gastric bypass one time...
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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a really great player,some one who stepped up from brazil in 2002,thas what was lacking this year,some one to step up and take control.
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a really great player,some one who stepped up from brazil in 2002,thas what was lacking this year,some one to step up and take control.
for real. in each of their world cup games, there was a lack of leadership on the field.
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WHy Rivaldo eh really get a chance in AC boy
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he should
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Rivaldo is one of the best players I ever see... RESPECT
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Parreira resigns as Brazil coach
Source: - BBC sports
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41907000/jpg/_41907478_parreira270.jpg)
Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira has resigned following his team's failure to win the World Cup.
The pre-tournament favourites were knocked out at the quarter-final stage, losing 1-0 to France in Germany.
A Brazil statement read: "The coach says he needs to dedicate time to his family after four years leading the Brazilian national team."
Parreira, 63, led Brazil to a fourth World Cup win in 1994 and took control for his third stint in charge in 2003.
He was also Brazil coach for one year during the mid-1980s and has also managed three other teams at the World Cup - Kuwait (1982), United Arab Emirates (1990) and Saudi Arabia (1998).
Among his other honours with Brazil, Parreira also won the 2004 Copa America and the 2005 Confederations Cup, on both occasions beating arch-rivals Argentina in the final.
Former Real Madrid coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo, who was in charge of Brazil from 1998 to 2000, and former Sao Paulo and Peru boss Paulo Autuori are the favourites to take over from Parreira.
The statement continued: "It was a joint decision and Parreira will no longer have any connection with the Brazilian Football Confederation."
Kingman
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Brazil played kaka
interpret that in either way, it still true ;D
I still think Parreira can do the job better than Luxemburgo though
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Gally, Corneal and the rest of them coaches should take heed and send in their resumes...
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Dunga is suprise choice as new Brazil coach
RIO DE JANEIRO, July 24 (Reuters) - Former Brazil midfielder and captain Dunga was surprisingly named as the country's new national team coach on Monday.
The Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) said on its official website that Dunga agreed terms after a two-hour meeting.
'I want to bring the same determination I had as a player,' Dunga, who captained Brazil's 1994 World Cup-winning team, told the CBF's website.
Dunga replaces Carlos Alberto Parreira who resigned last Wednesday.
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I did not see that one coming at all. I heard one rumour but dismissed it.
Very interesting
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Well I'm not very knowledgeable of the coaching landscape in Brazil so I can't say I'm TOO surprised......not sure who else was in the running.....
With so much talent at his disposal, I think the biggest challenge when coaching Brazil is getting the most out of the players....hopefully Dunga can do it...
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Well I'm not very knowledgeable of the coaching landscape in Brazil so I can't say I'm TOO surprised......not sure who else was in the running.....
With so much talent at his disposal, I think the biggest challenge when coaching Brazil is getting the most out of the players....hopefully Dunga can do it...
hoss i always compare dunga to deschamps on the field. if both ah them does coach the same way we in for some good things...
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one ah meh favourite Brazilian players. He wouldnt be afraid tuh read dem players de riot act. Anyone remember how he and Bebeto almost come tuh blows.....nonsense kinda fellah.
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one ah meh favourite Brazilian players. He wouldnt be afraid tuh read dem players de riot act. Anyone remember how he and Bebeto almost come tuh blows.....nonsense kinda fellah.
Aye yuh real ole school boy.......yuh believe in yuh hard man tactics eh ?..... ;D
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jes asking cause I really eh know
but Dunga ever coach any side of worth before?
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jes asking cause I really eh know
but Dunga ever coach any side of worth before?
Safe to say Dunga has very little coaching experience. In fact, I think he was travelling with a Brazil over 40 fete match side until recently. Klinsman, Voeller, Van Basten, Rijkaard...fairly successful national team coaches with zero experience. Dunga fits that mold of the young-ish ex player who the players will respecta nd respond to. Lewwe see wha go on in the Copa America yes...
big up Dopey (Dunga is portuguese for Dopey..in case you was wondering...he was nicknamed after one of the seven dwarves)
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Dunga is Brazil's new head coach?
Just heard it on the pipeline. Dont haqve all the facts yet.
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