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Title: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Flex on March 26, 2012, 05:03:00 AM
Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
CONCACAF.COM.


CARSON, California - Second-half substitute Shahdon Winchester scored three minutes into second-half stoppage time and earned Trinidad & Tobago a 1-1 draw with Panama on Sunday that did little for either team's hopes of reaching the semifinals of CONCACF Olympic qualifying.

The result left both teams at the bottom of Group B with one point, two behind Mexico and Honduras which were to play later Sunday. All four teams will play again on Tuesday in the final first-round group matches.

Winchester, who replaced Micah Lewis in the 62nd minute, tapped in a loose ball at the left post after the ball bounced around in the Panama penalty area.

Daneil Cyrus had a long throw into the box from the right side that Sheldon Bateu and Karreem Moses both had touches on before it landed at the feet of Kevin Molino at the top of the area. Molino, who had Trinidad's only goal in a 7-1 loss to Mexico on Friday, drove a ball toward net, where Rolando Algandona blocked it near the line.

But it bounded toward Winchester, who simply volleyed it in.

"It was tremendous for us in many ways because we have been working very hard in the past year now," Trinidad coach Angus Eve said. "To reach this stage, we want to try our best to reach the semifinals. Getting that goal is the opportunity for us."

Panama appeared on its way to victory after Cecilio Waterman scored in the 69th, three minutes after entering the game.

Rolando Algandona launched a free kick into the area from distance and Trinidad keeper Andre Marchan came off his line to try to punch clear. But the ball only went as far as Anibal Godoy standing in the middle of the penalty area, where he settled it off his chest and hit a right-footed shot that was heading toward the right post before Waterman deflected it with the inside of his heel.

The match was marred by a steady rain that began an hour to an hour and a half before kickoff in 57-degree Fahrenheit (14 Celsius) weather. A relatively heavy shower intensified at the start of the second half and made traction difficult, with players from both teams losing their footing with standing water kicking up around the players' feet.

Both sides had reasonable chances early in the first half with Panama's Victor Barrera having a ball blocked off his foot in the middle of Trinidad's penalty area in the second minute and Trinidad's Lewis getting a clean look from distance with a shot that rolled into Panama keeper Luis Mejia in the 12th.

Panama had the better of play and the best chance of the first half in the 26th when Godoy hit a shot from 25 meters that Trinidad keeper Andre Marchal knocked away with his right hand.

Marchan was playing two days after suffering a mild concussion in a collision with Nestor Calderon in the 77th minute of Mexico's 7-1 win.

The second half became more of an adventure as the rain soaked the natural grass surface at The Home Depot Center.

Panama began to claim more of the possession and chances, with Marchan having to go low to stop Amir Waithe's try from distance in the 51st and Yairo Glaize Yao's shot that went high in the 72nd.

Jamal Gay had Trinidad's best chance with a header that went straight to Mejia in the 73rd.

Panama still must face Mexico while Trinidad will complete its first round against Honduras.

"Our chances are slim. But the possibility exists,' Panama coach Julio Dely Valdes said assessing Panama's semifinal chances. "We have to keep wanting it.

"Mexico has alot of strengths and a lot of things they are good at. We'll have to control that and stop them. It's not going to be easy but I think every team in the world has weaknesses. So, we have to go out and exploit their weaknesses."

Highlights Panama v Trinidad Tobago (http://www.concacaf.com/page/MOQ/VideosDetail/0,,12813~2692492,00.html)

Teams

Panama: - Luis Mejía, Carlos Rodríguez, Rolando Algandona (Yellow 83), Harold Cummings, Roderick Miller, Aníbal Godoy, Javier Cedeño (Roderick Paúl 90th), Manuel Asprilla, Amir Waithe, Yairo Glaize (Marcos Sánchez 85th), Victor Barrera (Cecilio Waterman 66th).

Coach: Julio Dely Valdés.

Trinidad and Tobago: - 1.Andre Marchan, 4.Sheldon Bateau, 15.Curtis Gonzales (12.Jayson Joseph 78th) (Yellow 82), 17.Mekeil Williams (14.Tervin Caesar 78th), 19.Daneil Cyrus (Yellow 89), 3.Joevin Jones (Yellow 66), 2.Kareem Moses, 10.Kevin Molino, 5.Kevan George, 9.Jamal Gay, 18.Micah Lewis (11.Shahdon Winchester 62nd).

Coach: - Angus Eve.

Referee: - Javier Santos (Puerto Rico).

Attendance: - 16184.

Venue: - The Home Depot Center Carson, California.

Standings

GP W T L GF GA GD PTS   
Mexico  2 2 0 0 10 1 +9 6
Honduras  2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
Panama  2 0 1 1 2 4 -2 1
Trinidad & Tobago  2 0 1 1 2 8 -6 1

Winchester's goal keeps T&T alive.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF). 


With the clock winding down and another exit from a major tournament steering Trinidad and Tobago in the face, Shahdon Winchester fired a late equalizer to give his team a lifeline in the 2012 Olympic qualifying campaign.

Winchester entered the match on 62 minutes in place of Micah Lewis and the substitution by head coach Angus Eve paid off in the 93rd minute when the W Connection forward was on spot to tap home from close range after Kevin Molino’s left footed shot was partially blocked on the left post.

The goal sparked celebrations in the T&T camp and among the dozen or so T&T fans who braved the rainy conditions to support their country at the Home Depot Center, California.

With Mexico defeating Honduras 3-0 in the second match on Sunday and booking their spot in the semi-finals, T&T now remain with a chance of advancing too as a victory over Honduras on Tuesday will see them finish in second spot on four points ahead of Honduras (3pts).

Eve changed up his starting team from the one that got hammered by Mexico on Friday, bringing in defender Curtis Gonzales, winger Micah Lewis, stopper Kareem Moses and left side defender Joevin Jones.

And for much of the first half, T&T were able to keep their shape and organization, stifling the Panamanians for most parts. But there was still the usual break down in certain parts of the field and T&T’s pace in attack was too slow to cause much of a panic for the Panama back line.

Lewis had T&T’s first try at goal in the 12th minute when he collected from Molino but his right footer was saved low down by Luis Mejia.

On 27 minutes Eric Lewis tested Marchan from outside the box but the ‘keeper, who suffered a mild concussion against Mexico, was up to the task, pushing away to his left as the defence averted danger

On the other end, Jamal Gay and Jones also went up for a deep cross from the right but there was not enough on the ball to trouble Mejia as T&T tried to force themselves into the Panamanian penalty box.

The game opened up in the second half as the rains came belting down with strong winds and the field conditions didn’t make it easy for either side despite there still being relatively good passes on the green carpet in spurts from both teams

Panama created their fair share of scoring opportunities but T&T were not to be outdone as they put a lot more into their efforts, realizing the absolute need to grind out a result.

Amir Waithe and Yairo Glaize both missed chances for Panama with shots that were off target. All the while, Moses and Daneil Cyrus were on top of their game, with Bateau and Gonzales putting in strong efforts to ensure T&T kept themselves in the game.

But Marchan gifted Panama their opening item when his weak punch to a Rolando Algandona’s free kickout saw the ball fall on a platter for Anibal Godoy and his shot towards the right post was deflected in off the inside of Cecilio Waterman’s heel past Marchan. Waterman had entered the game just three minutes earlier.

Gay had a header saved and Kevan George’s glancing attempt went wide of the far left post a T&T pressed for the tying goal.

Molino also had an attempt foiled while a free kick by Jones after Molino was hacked down, was saved low by Mejia.

Substitute Trevin Caesar muffed a wonderful opportunity to draw level in the dying stages when he fired a right footer wide of the far left post after getting behind the Panamanian defence with only the advancing Mejia to beat.

Cyrus’ long throws from the right eventually brought reward to T&T for their valiant efforts as Molino drove the ball goalwards and the striker from Princes Town was on spot to direct the rebound home after Algandona got a faint touch.

Eve later credited his players for a gritty display.

“It was a game where we needed to get a result and while we got the point at the end I thought we could have come away with a win here but all in all, we can still celebrate it because it came right at the death,” Eve told TTFF Media.

“We have everything to play for now on Tuesday against Honduras because they lost to Mexico today and it means if we can get three points we will finish in second spot and move on to the semi-finals. It’s not beyond us but we have to believe more in our ability.

It’s a challenge here and even in other instances to get players to believe that they can compete at this level but we’re getting there one step at a time and on Tuesday we have another opportunity to get closer to that.”

“I thought today we were a lot better defensively than on Friday against Mexico and our players didn’t give away balls cheaply.

We conceded another soft goal which is definitely something we have to keep working on because it makes no sense putting in hard work in the preparations and in the match and then giving away cheap goals like we did here. But overall, I’m pleased with the fight and a draw that has kept us alive here in California,” Eve added.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Tallman on March 26, 2012, 06:05:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/VfTuuSoWh1E
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Daft Trini on March 26, 2012, 06:15:22 AM
The keeper is to blame for about 5 out of the 8 goals we collect. What was wrong with Panama's second goal?
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Flex on March 26, 2012, 06:18:19 AM
The keeper is to blame for about 5 out of the 8 goals we collect. What was wrong with Panama's second goal?

I think the whistle blew before the goal was scored, when I watch the replay, the Panama player kicked Cyrus foot and his foot hit the ball in, so I am assuming that was the reason ??

Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Tallman on March 26, 2012, 07:04:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/F458h4iSnBw
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: mouie on March 26, 2012, 07:36:59 AM
Well we know we love to do it the hard way.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Socafan on March 26, 2012, 08:06:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/F458h4iSnBw

Hmmmm....Nice interview Eve, except for the part where he say " both teams were passing well". What effing game he was watching? Glad to hear him say the instruction to the backline was to standoff a bit because Panama has pace, because I did notice the backline standing off, and was cussing about that. However, right after that he said this resulted in less space...yeah maybe between them and the goalie, but plenty more in midfield. At least Eve can enunciate, an properly verbalize his thoughts,  and man can get a glimpse into what he was thinking, unlike the usual absolute nothing and confusion from  local coaches. Yuh get a pass into the next game.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: warmonga on March 26, 2012, 08:33:12 AM
The keeper is to blame for about 5 out of the 8 goals we collect. What was wrong with Panama's second goal?
It was a blatant foul yu cya see dat.. Our keeper fumble di ball but the panamanian player slide tackle our defender bringing him down .. ..
war
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: truetrini on March 26, 2012, 09:03:24 AM
The keeper is to blame for about 5 out of the 8 goals we collect. What was wrong with Panama's second goal?
It was a blatant foul yu cya see dat.. Our keeper fumble di ball but the panamanian player slide tackle our defender bringing him down .. ..
war

The ONLY way I see that not being a legit goal for Panama is if as Flex says the whistle had already gone.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Trinidad Sports Reality on March 26, 2012, 09:21:39 AM
but winchester aint hit the ball the ball hit him
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 09:35:28 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: truetrini on March 26, 2012, 09:42:29 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

Mango, I think you were a goal keeper right?  Can it be that he is just having a bad tournament and he is better than that?

I mean even with a concussion the coaches still decided to start him against Panama.

Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 26, 2012, 10:08:16 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

U talkin ah setta f**kin shit hoss!!!
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Post by: injunchile on March 26, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
So what happen to the Substitute Goalkeeper. Maybe if EVE jogged his memory to the senior Team W/C campaign and remembered that Jack was the starting Goalkeeper, then he was injured and Shaka stood tall.
 Who knows the sub may have made all the difference. Give the man a try after Marchan's performance against Mexico.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 10:16:29 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

Mango, I think you were a goal keeper right?  Can it be that he is just having a bad tournament and he is better than that?

I mean even with a concussion the coaches still decided to start him against Panama.



Yes I was, TT, and I have looked just as bad as Marchan is looking here both in school, and at various stages throughout meh "career" but this is not about me!  :laugh:  First things, Ize a Trini.  sometimes ah know we does could exaggerate things and I eh sayin' nothing mean, but is we culture...maybe that concussion wasn't so bad eh....but, moving right along: I don't believe in a guy "having a bad tournament" when I know there are others that can easily take his spot that have shown that they don't necesarrily have "bad tournaments"...Call me a Glenroy Samuel fanboy but, to me, HE is the young and upcoming "keeper that should be handling all the GK duties short of the Senior team...But I eh know what goin' on with him....Maybe I am being a little harsh on the fella and quite honestly, I refused to look at the highlights of the Mexico game because I was just fedup with TnT Football....now I don't want to look at it because from what I've read, Marchan was pretty much at fault for most of the goals and ah kinda holdin' back....but both of them goals that Panama scored fell squarely on his shoulders and the errors were too fundamental for it to be excusable.  However, your post then brings me to ask the question: who is the GK coach for this team?  isn't/wasn't it at one time, the great michael mccomie?  earl Carter woulda had a FIT if one of his 'keepers dropped balls like that....but EC does train people d right way. When ah cool orff....ah go check out d Mexico highlights and come again.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: dinho on March 26, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
Blame management for taking a gamble to put Marchan in that position to begin with..

To come back so soon after a concussion is asking alot of him, the man just take a flush kick to face in the Mexico game. That was bound to affect his confidence, especially in aerial situations where he would be subconsciously timid to go into contact. Seems like that is where he had all the problems based on those highlights.

I find it hard to believe that the sub keeper is so below par that he could not be trusted to come in and fill the void.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 10:28:10 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

U talkin ah setta f**kin shit hoss!!!

 
Don't let the truth hurt yuh, hoss.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Dutty on March 26, 2012, 10:48:02 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

U talkin ah setta f**kin shit hoss!!!

 
Don't let the truth hurt yuh, hoss.

oh gorm chow,,is one or two men grovie import not de whole 11

Look how much sideline cheerleaders QRC import over the years, nobody eh complain
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: lefty on March 26, 2012, 11:08:32 AM
Blame management for taking a gamble to put Marchan in that position to begin with..

To come back so soon after a concussion is asking alot of him, the man just take a flush kick to face in the Mexico game. That was bound to affect his confidence, especially in aerial situations where he would be subconsciously timid to go into contact. Seems like that is where he had all the problems based on those highlights.

I find it hard to believe that the sub keeper is so below par that he could not be trusted to come in and fill the void.

the substitute keeper had ah woeful game against St.Kitts in d last round ah qualifiers when we loss an man was asking why dey rest Marchan ???
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: dinho on March 26, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
Blame management for taking a gamble to put Marchan in that position to begin with..

To come back so soon after a concussion is asking alot of him, the man just take a flush kick to face in the Mexico game. That was bound to affect his confidence, especially in aerial situations where he would be subconsciously timid to go into contact. Seems like that is where he had all the problems based on those highlights.

I find it hard to believe that the sub keeper is so below par that he could not be trusted to come in and fill the void.

the substitute keeper had ah woeful game against St.Kitts in d last round ah qualifiers when we loss an man was asking why dey rest Marchan ???

Yeah but if he can't be trusted to sub a keeper that just suffered a concussion then why is he even on the roster??

That is my point, if yuh pick him, then it stands to reason he is good enough to play.

Playing him should be the first option.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 11:15:44 AM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

U talkin ah setta f**kin shit hoss!!!

 
Don't let the truth hurt yuh, hoss.

oh gorm chow,,is one or two men grovie import not de whole 11

Look how much sideline cheerleaders QRC import over the years, nobody eh complain

  :rotfl: Nah, Jed, nah! We was never in d import business. And fuh all d lix we get in my years dey sometimes ah wish we coulda do it like Downer.  :D Our principal was rel dread, hoss, dah man didn't care if yuh was Dexter Sandy or not, "Football" wasn't a school priority.

 

Blame management for taking a gamble to put Marchan in that position to begin with..

To come back so soon after a concussion is asking alot of him, the man just take a flush kick to face in the Mexico game. That was bound to affect his confidence, especially in aerial situations where he would be subconsciously timid to go into contact. Seems like that is where he had all the problems based on those highlights.

I find it hard to believe that the sub keeper is so below par that he could not be trusted to come in and fill the void.

the substitute keeper had ah woeful game against St.Kitts in d last round ah qualifiers when we loss an man was asking why dey rest Marchan ???

...ah man showin' meh is Glenroy Samuel dat colleck 5 against St. Kitts....but I eh know him to be on this current roster....and if he is, he is a proven player and in no way should be benchin' fuh Marchan...


Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: lefty on March 26, 2012, 11:24:33 AM
Blame management for taking a gamble to put Marchan in that position to begin with..

To come back so soon after a concussion is asking alot of him, the man just take a flush kick to face in the Mexico game. That was bound to affect his confidence, especially in aerial situations where he would be subconsciously timid to go into contact. Seems like that is where he had all the problems based on those highlights.

I find it hard to believe that the sub keeper is so below par that he could not be trusted to come in and fill the void.

the substitute keeper had ah woeful game against St.Kitts in d last round ah qualifiers when we loss an man was asking why dey rest Marchan ???

Yeah but if he can't be trusted to sub a keeper that just suffered a concussion then why is he even on the roster??

That is my point
, if yuh pick him, then it stands to reason he is good enough to play.

Playing him should be the first option.

dais d point ah making jus choose not to elaborate ...........yuh remember how vexation get the better of everybody..........if samuels did collect some goals ah wonder what man woulda be saying next...........point I feel d staff ent have great confidence in Samuels as mirrored by dat very same reaction here after St.Kitts.
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Post by: Big Magician on March 26, 2012, 11:33:46 AM
man management.... when Glenroy get the goals from St Kitts... he get drop for good... Marchan is a sub for years...

the thing is..did glenroy get a blow out from angus after that game ??..did glenroy cuss out Angus ???..we dont know...

maybe a bit of man management and glenroy would have been on this team also...

when Shaka put down one of the worst tnt keeping in my history ( 5 from guatemala)...he was not discarded...the rest is history...
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 11:38:45 AM
man management.... when Glenroy get the goals from St Kitts... he get drop for good... Marchan is a sub for years...

the thing is..did glenroy get a blow out from angus after that game ??..did glenroy cuss out Angus ???..we dont know...

maybe a bit of man management and glenroy would have been on this team also...

when Shaka put down one of the worst tnt keeping in my history ( 5 from guatemala)...he was not discarded...the rest is history...

 The games I have seen Samuel play in, both the U-17 and U20 WC's, AND the couple games I saw him play, I saw nothing that would make me question his abilities, even in losing efforts.  I never got a chance to see Marchan play because he was always (as you pointedly ponted out) on the bench.  Wha happ'm to Jesse fullerton?
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: kingman on March 26, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
We were VERY lucky to come out with a tie. You know they say in football, even the best teams need some luck. I think we had our share against Panama. The referee called back a goal against us that would have put Panama 2 goals up....Winchester had a 1st touch of a rhino that ended up as a goal. We would surely need to get our acts together going into the Honduras game.

Kudos to the T&T defenders; they were hard working and determined.

And why Ave have to tell reports his plans or intentions in different game scenarios?


Kingman
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: CAPITANO on March 26, 2012, 11:49:40 AM
This Guy Marchan is the Worse ever...Yes other goalies throughout tnt history collect they fair share of goals...but nothing as crazy as this.  Most of the goals against TNT in this tournament have been all his fault.
I never really saw him in action before, but this my friends is atrocious..
I understand that he can just be having a bad tournament..well if that's the case...then they need to take him out of the tournament. Or ah wonder if they still experimenting???
How good is the other sub Keeper? and what is the real deal with Glenroy Samuel?..He looked a lot better that this guy.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Tallman on March 26, 2012, 12:06:00 PM
when Shaka put down one of the worst tnt keeping in my history ( 5 from guatemala)...he was not discarded...the rest is history...

Nah, watch dat game again. Probably one ah dem goals was Shaka fault. For de ress ah dem, de defence leave him exposed in ah big way.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Tallman on March 26, 2012, 12:08:26 PM
Wha happ'm to Jesse fullerton?

He migrate tuh Florida before he finish QRC and dat was dat. He played for Cypress Bay High School, Iona College, and FIU.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 26, 2012, 12:16:53 PM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

U talkin ah setta f**kin shit hoss!!!

 
Don't let the truth hurt yuh, hoss.

Dat cah hurt cause is shit talk.  The first goalie transfer that was impactful was Wally and that was in 89 and he wasn't playing U14.  Know yuh facts before yuh talk shit in yuh ass playin yuh tryin to take ah dig at SAC.  U14 keepers were Herbert and then Ribierro and both passed for and were there from for 1.  Herbert was our U14 goalie during the 87 season where we lost 1 game.  The whole transfer scenes started with Wally so try yuh best imps.
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Post by: elan on March 26, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
How no one eh talking about Marchan not getting no help from defenders? The #19 just walking his lazy arse around yelling at the keeper.
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Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 02:09:21 PM
Watching this 'keeper whe have...is Marchan is his name, right?....I cyah see nothing in him that brings "Olympic Qualifiers" to mind.  Everything about him reminds me of U-14 football from back in d day...and I eh talkin' 'bout teams like CIC and MJS that had the likes of Shaka and Ross Russell and ting....is side like St. Georges and St. Anthony's (beFORE they started importing players) dat didn't have no 'keeper and jes' trow een one ah dey outfield players in a short sleeve and a gloves.....This fella eh no good man. 

U talkin ah setta f**kin shit hoss!!!

 
Don't let the truth hurt yuh, hoss.

Dat cah hurt cause is shit talk.  The first goalie transfer that was impactful was Wally and that was in 89 and he wasn't playing U14.  Know yuh facts before yuh talk shit in yuh ass playin yuh tryin to take ah dig at SAC.  U14 keepers were Herbert and then Ribierro and both passed for and were there from for 1.  Herbert was our U14 goalie during the 87 season where we lost 1 game.  The whole transfer scenes started with Wally so try yuh best imps.

Well ah know meh comment, the way it was written, have yuh thinkin' is goalkeepers ah was talkin' bout' because you obviously eh have the composure to see that I said "LONG before they was importing PLAYERS" and not "importing goalkeepers", but, since yuh think yuh tellin' me something, understand that I last played senior football for QRC in 1983 when I was in Form 5....so if yuh want to tell meh who was and wasn't allyuh f**kin' U-14 GK when I was still playin' U-14 about 2 and 3 years prior to dat, then by all f**kin' means, do so.  But the actual "stab" i was takin' at SAC WAS the fact that, at the end of the day, y'all was still (whenever it actually f**kin' started, I don't care) ended up in the business of "importing players" namely one Kenwyne Jones. Also, at the end of the day, just about every school has done it but Downer was allegedly notorious for doing it, moreso than anybody else but I couldn't use his school as a comparison because it would have deterred from the point I was making of Marchan "lookin' like a U-14 GK".  For obvious reasons, St Augustine didn't play U-14 football...so before yuh get yuh self all worked up like yuh asshole padnah like to do, pull yuh panties off yuh clit to ease the abrasion and relax yuh f**kin ass and take a f**kin' joke and hush yuh f**kin' c**t.   
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 26, 2012, 02:45:18 PM
Dan you is ah f**kin fool aought?!!  Yuh say before and talk about puttin any regular player between the sticks and I corrected yuh by naming 2 Keepers before that whole transfer scene start up.  So maybe yuh need to take english again because apparently yuh eh even comprehend what de f**k you yuhself write nor de context of my response.  All da ress ah conthole talk bout panty eh fuh me because I doh be in allyuh lil f**kin maccomehman discusions so haul yuh mudda c**t wid dat imps!!
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Tallman on March 26, 2012, 03:05:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/K_K0k6EBCXQ
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Coach on March 26, 2012, 03:17:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/F458h4iSnBw
LAWD... Eve "thaugth his team dropped of vs Mexico" that is what killed you ! You asking your team to pressure Mexico high you need to drop off and be compact in your half against a team like Mex! You can't presure a team like Mex if you keep giving back the ball after two passes! You are setting up your players to get ah beating...no shit they did get SAMPAT!!!

Eve " Houduras like to play one-two's and make short passes" this is your bread and butter if you want to coach at this level. Btw what are you telling your players to play??

Eve "Ah backed Mex to win all 3 games" cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 03:34:26 PM
Dan you is ah f**kin fool aought?!!  Yuh say before and talk about puttin any regular player between the sticks and I corrected yuh by naming 2 Keepers before that whole transfer scene start up.  So maybe yuh need to take english again because apparently yuh eh even comprehend what de f**k you yuhself write nor de context of my response.  All da ress ah conthole talk bout panty eh fuh me because I doh be in allyuh lil f**kin maccomehman discusions so haul yuh mudda c**t wid dat imps!!

and again....I was talkin' about SAC durin MY TIME playing against them, alongside them, same league as them, same field as them and that is even beFORE the time frame that you are referring to and beFORE SAC became this big football side that they are now in (senior) Colleges' League.  You so f**kin' chupid as to not recognize that THAT is what is being said?!  You think I give a f**k about the two little examples you give in '87 and '89 when I am clearly referring to '79, '80, '81 and '82?!  Like yuh mudder c**t eh learn to count in dat school beyond a 1-2 pass! What a f**kin' c**t boy!

Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 26, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Dan you is ah f**kin fool aought?!!  Yuh say before and talk about puttin any regular player between the sticks and I corrected yuh by naming 2 Keepers before that whole transfer scene start up.  So maybe yuh need to take english again because apparently yuh eh even comprehend what de f**k you yuhself write nor de context of my response.  All da ress ah conthole talk bout panty eh fuh me because I doh be in allyuh lil f**kin maccomehman discusions so haul yuh mudda c**t wid dat imps!!

and again....I was talkin' about SAC durin MY TIME playing against them, alongside them, same league as them, same field as them and that is even beFORE the time frame that you are referring to and beFORE SAC became this big football side that they are now in (senior) Colleges' League.  You so f**kin' chupid as to not recognize that THAT is what is being said?!  You think I give a f**k about the two little examples you give in '87 and '89 when I am clearly referring to '79, '80, '81 and '82?!  Like yuh mudder c**t eh learn to count in dat school beyond a 1-2 pass! What a f**kin' c**t boy!



Oh so you feel somebody care bout when you and dinosaur was kickin ball f**ka?!!  My bad king I din realize you goin back to de f**kin disco era to try an dis SAC!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 04:02:09 PM
Dan you is ah f**kin fool aought?!!  Yuh say before and talk about puttin any regular player between the sticks and I corrected yuh by naming 2 Keepers before that whole transfer scene start up.  So maybe yuh need to take english again because apparently yuh eh even comprehend what de f**k you yuhself write nor de context of my response.  All da ress ah conthole talk bout panty eh fuh me because I doh be in allyuh lil f**kin maccomehman discusions so haul yuh mudda c**t wid dat imps!!

and again....I was talkin' about SAC durin MY TIME playing against them, alongside them, same league as them, same field as them and that is even beFORE the time frame that you are referring to and beFORE SAC became this big football side that they are now in (senior) Colleges' League.  You so f**kin' chupid as to not recognize that THAT is what is being said?!  You think I give a f**k about the two little examples you give in '87 and '89 when I am clearly referring to '79, '80, '81 and '82?!  Like yuh mudder c**t eh learn to count in dat school beyond a 1-2 pass! What a f**kin' c**t boy!



Oh so you feel somebody care bout when you and dinosaur was kickin ball f**ka?!!  My bad king I din realize you goin back to de f**kin disco era to try an dis SAC!  :rotfl:

I know, right?  From your inability to count past "2", I could see why a difference of 5 to 10 years really would seem like a few millenia to you.  Funny, though, if wasn't for some ah dem players from that same "Disco era" (that could run rings roung KJ head) Trinidad wasn't goin' no where near Germany.  So good luck with the players from your era, hoss.   
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Tallman on March 27, 2012, 08:54:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/1Bd2cJLs7_g
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 27, 2012, 09:04:08 AM
Dan you is ah f**kin fool aought?!!  Yuh say before and talk about puttin any regular player between the sticks and I corrected yuh by naming 2 Keepers before that whole transfer scene start up.  So maybe yuh need to take english again because apparently yuh eh even comprehend what de f**k you yuhself write nor de context of my response.  All da ress ah conthole talk bout panty eh fuh me because I doh be in allyuh lil f**kin maccomehman discusions so haul yuh mudda c**t wid dat imps!!

and again....I was talkin' about SAC durin MY TIME playing against them, alongside them, same league as them, same field as them and that is even beFORE the time frame that you are referring to and beFORE SAC became this big football side that they are now in (senior) Colleges' League.  You so f**kin' chupid as to not recognize that THAT is what is being said?!  You think I give a f**k about the two little examples you give in '87 and '89 when I am clearly referring to '79, '80, '81 and '82?!  Like yuh mudder c**t eh learn to count in dat school beyond a 1-2 pass! What a f**kin' c**t boy!



Oh so you feel somebody care bout when you and dinosaur was kickin ball f**ka?!!  My bad king I din realize you goin back to de f**kin disco era to try an dis SAC!  :rotfl:

I know, right?  From your inability to count past "2", I could see why a difference of 5 to 10 years really would seem like a few millenia to you.  Funny, though, if wasn't for some ah dem players from that same "Disco era" (that could run rings roung KJ head) Trinidad wasn't goin' no where near Germany.  So good luck with the players from your era, hoss.   

Hoss I wasn yuh f**kin gawdfadda so how de f**k I was suppose to know you tawkin bout before grass invent?!  Apart from dat yuh tawkin up in yuh cont considering the players from Germany within my generation an not yours.  Yuh ole senile f**k!  Allyuh rell like to clutch at f**kin straws oui.  Wha yuh go come wid next "if wasn fuh de players before dem paving de way?"  Go ahead an tell meh which players from your era responsible, dis should be good!!  You is ah rell ole fool dawgie.  Now ah understand why yuh will go dong dyin dat Mikel is ah boss :rotfl:
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Sam on March 27, 2012, 09:33:34 AM
We score a goal because de ball bounce of a player knee.

That error was cause because de field was slippery and it was hard for de keeper to hold after a shot.

Why de hell Eve didn't instruct de players to shot more often under these circumstances.

De field was bad and slipper, de ball must get a bad bounce and probably go in.



Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 28, 2012, 02:07:59 AM
Dan you is ah f**kin fool aought?!!  Yuh say before and talk about puttin any regular player between the sticks and I corrected yuh by naming 2 Keepers before that whole transfer scene start up.  So maybe yuh need to take english again because apparently yuh eh even comprehend what de f**k you yuhself write nor de context of my response.  All da ress ah conthole talk bout panty eh fuh me because I doh be in allyuh lil f**kin maccomehman discusions so haul yuh mudda c**t wid dat imps!!

and again....I was talkin' about SAC durin MY TIME playing against them, alongside them, same league as them, same field as them and that is even beFORE the time frame that you are referring to and beFORE SAC became this big football side that they are now in (senior) Colleges' League.  You so f**kin' chupid as to not recognize that THAT is what is being said?!  You think I give a f**k about the two little examples you give in '87 and '89 when I am clearly referring to '79, '80, '81 and '82?!  Like yuh mudder c**t eh learn to count in dat school beyond a 1-2 pass! What a f**kin' c**t boy!



Oh so you feel somebody care bout when you and dinosaur was kickin ball f**ka?!!  My bad king I din realize you goin back to de f**kin disco era to try an dis SAC!  :rotfl:

I know, right?  From your inability to count past "2", I could see why a difference of 5 to 10 years really would seem like a few millenia to you.  Funny, though, if wasn't for some ah dem players from that same "Disco era" (that could run rings roung KJ head) Trinidad wasn't goin' no where near Germany.  So good luck with the players from your era, hoss.   

Hoss I wasn yuh f**kin gawdfadda so how de f**k I was suppose to know you tawkin bout before grass invent?!  Apart from dat yuh tawkin up in yuh cont considering the players from Germany within my generation an not yours.  Yuh ole senile f**k!  Allyuh rell like to clutch at f**kin straws oui.  Wha yuh go come wid next "if wasn fuh de players before dem paving de way?"  Go ahead an tell meh which players from your era responsible, dis should be good!!  You is ah rell ole fool dawgie.  Now ah understand why yuh will go dong dyin dat Mikel is ah boss :rotfl:

Yuh know, for all the times that I have defended Mikel (on the thread that talk of Mikel really belongs) never once have you opened yuh slimy muddah c**t to offer up any reasonable, football-related, sensible argument as to what makes him a "shithong" but yuh want to bring it up here on this thread and talk of "clutching straws" because you cyah take a simple, easy-going joke "bout yuh lil' f**kin' dotish school.  If yuh coulda READ with any smidgen of understanding and yuh head wasn't so far up KJ and Grovie alternate backsides yuh would be able to exactly figure out "when grass invent".  Shaka, Latapy and Dwight are all from "my era" yuh c**t.  How far outta qualifiers were Trinidad makin' it without them?  When the latter two of them turned their back on the team, What did Leo and ttff do?  Did they let them ride out or did they implore them to come back?  Is only a jackass from st anthony's would even see grass as an "invention" wit yuh dotish c**t, maybe is time fuh you to feed on some.  Grovie need to put yuh c**t where yuh forehead is and f**k some sense int yuh!  I could even put two men from my era in Dexter Sandy and roger Guiseppi that didn't even play too much for Trinidad beyond youth and a couple games at senior level that would mash up KJ. 
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 28, 2012, 11:49:12 AM
How I go offer evidence of Mikel being ah shittong when I eh tink so imps?!!  I think he is a decent player and has good moments.  You act as if he is the best ting since slice bread.  Big difference f**ka!!  Dan wha is dis up man backside talk hoss?!!  Allyuh does cah talk without bringing some homo insinuations aought?  Yuh wasn de same one actin as if is Bakes always doin dat?!  Anyhow fisherman does talk bout fish so proceed with yuh bullaman inuendo to yuh hearts content buddy.

Funny yuh talk bout late 70's early 80's and claiming Shaka, York and Latas as part of your era.  Then yuh go on to say "I could even put two men from my era in Dexter Sandy and roger Guiseppi"  Hmmmm i doh tink i need to say no more caw you eh need me to show yuh da yuhz ah cont lmao!! Lemmeh rite dis in termz yuh mite undahstan lol.  Da shit skool yuh went rell fayl yuh hoss  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 29, 2012, 11:03:43 PM
How I go offer evidence of Mikel being ah shittong when I eh tink so imps?!!  I think he is a decent player and has good moments.  You act as if he is the best ting since slice bread.  Big difference f**ka!!  Dan wha is dis up man backside talk hoss?!!  Allyuh does cah talk without bringing some homo insinuations aought?  Yuh wasn de same one actin as if is Bakes always doin dat?!  Anyhow fisherman does talk bout fish so proceed with yuh bullaman inuendo to yuh hearts content buddy.

Funny yuh talk bout late 70's early 80's and claiming Shaka, York and Latas as part of your era.  Then yuh go on to say "I could even put two men from my era in Dexter Sandy and roger Guiseppi"  Hmmmm i doh tink i need to say no more caw you eh need me to show yuh da yuhz ah cont lmao!! Lemmeh rite dis in termz yuh mite undahstan lol.  Da shit skool yuh went rell fayl yuh hoss  :rotfl:

Well you must be a three-headed dog, hoss, look how yuh gone and stick yuh head up dat nex' jackass ass now.  Hear what though, take a timeout...pull yuh head out yuh sock puppet master ass and arkske him to pull he hand outta yours and let me explain something to you: when you tell somebody they need to pull they head out they ass or from wherever they have it stick up, (other people ass included) it is not anything homesexual in nature.  It is akin to telling them to get their head out the clouds.  So don't excite yuh self with the talk of homosexual "inuendo" and what not, yuh only peckin' yuh lil' chicken head fuh corn and nobody eh trow none....it just show yuh hungry fuh something.  If anything is pitiful, though, is to see a man ridin' a nex' man jock so hard that he have to use de man overused, boring lines.  Dize real macomay man behaviour, jed, so be a real man and formulate your own thoughts and opinions nuh. dize not a good look.  At all. 
   Me defending Mikel against being called a "shithong" is far from calling him the best thing since slice bread, cunny.  Again, yuh get excited about what you think I write before you read and understand what I actually write.  I tell yuh one thing, though....maybe is KJ that think he's the "best thing" after dat nasty beat he ress on him not too long ago.  Arkske anybody who saw it.  Make KJ look like a U-14 player from school like St George's and st anthony's beFORE they started importing players from all over Trinidad (and Tobago, too?)

 Bring out yuh scientific calculator because is dotish jackass man like you does end up in big government and utilities wuk in Trinidad f**kin' up we infra structure:  Dexter Sandy is a year older than I am.  roger Guiseppi is about 2 years younger.....Sandy and I started going secodary school same year....Guip came in right after us.  We ALL played for QRC together at every age group from U-14 to U-16 and right up to First XI. And we all played against Russell Latapy (Tranquility Secondary, Sando Tech) and Shaka at every one of the aforementioned age-specific football categories.  We would have come up against Dwight Yorke, too, at some juncture, had he grown up and attended school in Trinidad. Latapy and I are the same age, Shaka is a year our junior and Dwight, three.  We are all in our early to mid forties.  How are we NOT from the same "era" yuh c**t? Make sure yuh pay back yuh parents all de money dey pay to send yuh to to dat shit school in Westmoorings eh. You have wasted their money and failed them.   

 

     
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 30, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
:yellowcard: Dan after readin de first 2 sentences, I eh readin nutten more yuh ha to say and honestly not interested in havin no exchange with you on any topic.  If my head being up somebody ass is such ah fascinating fantasy fuh you, eh nutten I could say again because I really doh ha conversation with people who always on ah homo vibes.  Have fun with yuh theories whatever they may be.
Title: Re: Late goal lifts Trinidad, sinks Panama.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 30, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
:yellowcard: Dan after readin de first 2 sentences, I eh readin nutten more yuh ha to say and honestly not interested in havin no exchange with you on any topic.  If my head being up somebody ass is such ah fascinating fantasy fuh you, eh nutten I could say again because I really doh ha conversation with people who always on ah homo vibes.  Have fun with yuh theories whatever they may be.

....but yet yuh is friends with the #1 "homo vibes" man on the forum.....yuh eh see you is jes a fraud and a pussy like him.  Two peas in a f**kin' pod.  I was never interested in havin' no exchange wit you, lil' boy, but like yuh takin' medicine fuh yuh puppet master belly ache off a simple lil' joke ad want to play yuh blowin' hard at me.  Just admit that yuh really reach yuh two-sentence limit of factual, independent, sensible reading fuh d day nuh, and ride out with yuh mudda c**t. Have a blessed day.
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