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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on April 09, 2013, 04:06:21 AM
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Trinidad defeats Costa Rica 2-0 at Under 17's.
By Michael Lewis (Concacaf).
Trinidad & Tobago kept its hopes up of reaching the quarterfinals of the 2013 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship by recording a 2-0 Group B victory over Costa Rica on Monday night.
Andre Fortune scored in the first half and Brent Sam added an insurance goal for the Soca Warriors in the second half at Estadio Agustin Muquita Sanchez.
Goalkeeper Johan Welch, who plays for the Houston Dynamo Academy team, recorded the shutout for the Caribbean side.
Trinidad ended group play at 1-1-0 and three points. The Costa Ricans (0-1-0, none) face Canada (1-0-0, three), 2-0 winners over Trinidad in its Saturday opener, in the final group match on Wednesday night.
The Ticos squandered a golden opportunity to take an early lead after Trinidad's Brendon Creed took down Arington Torres in the penalty area. Referee Armando Castro of Honduras had no hesitation pointing to the penalty spot.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/983sWnoMbNE
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Dat free kick. Yes sah!
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i doubted they could have pulled it off they made me eat my words ........ :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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http://www.youtube.com/v/KiOPkqAV1Bc
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And Tobago
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Hate that we are yet in another situation of having to await the outcome of a match between other teams, but it could have been worse ... we could have been out.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/OnkTm3s87M0
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How de f00ck Costa Rica get a penalty for that !!!!
De ref from Honduras, them Spanish for Spanish.
Doh feed them Spanish nah, Them Spanish does eat and Varnish.
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If anyone saw that entire game then you tell me about the quality of that performance and I will tell you if we saw the same game. As far as Costa Rica's performance is concerned, if they don't beat Canada by at least 3 goals in their last game to move on to the next round, their coach is not coaching another u17 team. Stick a fork in him he is done. They were piss poor. With that being said, Cooper must have told them to see the shot and be the shot. The first goal was soft. The keeper was snoozing and when you snooze you loose. The second goal by Sam was a gem, a little higher exactly where it was placed and not a goalkeeper in the world was going to save that rock. I will save my indictment of this performance for later. Congratulations on the win, yeah, but now you are left depending on another team to determine your destiny.
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How did the goalkeeper performed ?
He looked ok from the highlights.
Anybody know more about him ?
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Great result.
Been a while since I've seen a TT team trouble the opposition with FKs so.
VB
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If anyone saw that entire game then you tell me about the quality of that performance and I will tell you if we saw the same game. As far as Costa Rica's performance is concerned, if they don't beat Canada by at least 3 goals in their last game to move on to the next round, their coach is not coaching another u17 team. Stick a fork in him he is done. They were piss poor. With that being said, Cooper must have told them to see the shot and be the shot. The first goal was soft. The keeper was snoozing and when you snooze you loose. The second goal by Sam was a gem, a little higher exactly where it was placed and not a goalkeeper in the world was going to save that rock. I will save my indictment of this performance for later. Congratulations on the win, yeah, but now you are left depending on another team to determine your destiny.
I'll call a spade a spade: the first goal, took a slight deflection. I don't think it was only a result of the keeper being asleep.
I agree with Deese- I'm not taking anything away from our boys' effort, but it was obvious that CR side is not too good of a team at all, especially by Costa Rican standards.
Also, just an observation: T&T had a definite physical and athletic advantage and used it for all it was worth. The difference in size and athleticism between the squads made us look like one of those African "U-17" sides.
Hopefully T&T will have a chance to remove all doubts against a better team in the quarterfinals.
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deese oh lawd breds lewwe at least saveur this win nah:) oh jeezanages , let costa rica and canada sweat their battle in the next game , as neither of them ( costa rica / canada ) can afford to lose nor draw, neither of the teams in the group wants a game decided by a coin toss ...in the event all team finishes with the same aggregate which will be a nightmare come to think of it..... the scenario as it stands canada cannot afford a 3-0 loss neither can costa rica afford anything but an outright win of no less than a 3-0 win to automatically advance out of the group ... well look bachannal here is real blood and sand between canada and costa rica ...... anyways we just have to wait and see....... ah doh like this part at all but my feeling is our chances of moving on is pretty good at this point ..... let me send my best wishes to the staff and the young warriors again in advance..... god bless and best wishes youth men back to work!!
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any link were i can watch the whole game plz? thanks and bless.
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If anyone saw that entire game then you tell me about the quality of that performance and I will tell you if we saw the same game. As far as Costa Rica's performance is concerned, if they don't beat Canada by at least 3 goals in their last game to move on to the next round, their coach is not coaching another u17 team. Stick a fork in him he is done. They were piss poor. With that being said, Cooper must have told them to see the shot and be the shot. The first goal was soft. The keeper was snoozing and when you snooze you loose. The second goal by Sam was a gem, a little higher exactly where it was placed and not a goalkeeper in the world was going to save that rock. I will save my indictment of this performance for later. Congratulations on the win, yeah, but now you are left depending on another team to determine your destiny.
I'll call a spade a spade: the first goal, took a slight deflection. I don't think it was only a result of the keeper being asleep.
I agree with Deese- I'm not taking anything away from our boys' effort, but it was obvious that CR side is not too good of a team at all, especially by Costa Rican standards.
Also, just an observation: T&T had a definite physical and athletic advantage and used it for all it was worth. The difference in size and athleticism between the squads made us look like one of those African "U-17" sides.
Hopefully T&T will have a chance to remove all doubts against a better team in the quarterfinals.
or could it be we prepared and closed the GAP .... in the past the national team prep was one or two games against a pro league team then one international we entered the tournament and lost by 1 or 2 nil .... effort was put into preparation and we won, now costa rica is sub standard :bs: .... ....
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If anyone saw that entire game then you tell me about the quality of that performance and I will tell you if we saw the same game. As far as Costa Rica's performance is concerned, if they don't beat Canada by at least 3 goals in their last game to move on to the next round, their coach is not coaching another u17 team. Stick a fork in him he is done. They were piss poor. With that being said, Cooper must have told them to see the shot and be the shot. The first goal was soft. The keeper was snoozing and when you snooze you loose. The second goal by Sam was a gem, a little higher exactly where it was placed and not a goalkeeper in the world was going to save that rock. I will save my indictment of this performance for later. Congratulations on the win, yeah, but now you are left depending on another team to determine your destiny.
I'll call a spade a spade: the first goal, took a slight deflection. I don't think it was only a result of the keeper being asleep.
I agree with Deese- I'm not taking anything away from our boys' effort, but it was obvious that CR side is not too good of a team at all, especially by Costa Rican standards.
Also, just an observation: T&T had a definite physical and athletic advantage and used it for all it was worth. The difference in size and athleticism between the squads made us look like one of those African "U-17" sides.
Hopefully T&T will have a chance to remove all doubts against a better team in the quarterfinals.
or could it be we prepared and closed the GAP .... in the past the national team prep was one or two games against a pro league team then one international we entered the tournament and lost by 1 or 2 nil .... effort was put into preparation and we won, now costa rica is sub standard :bs: .... ....
He look for that :whip:
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The defence wasn't too bad at all and Costa Rica did not have any clear cut chances other than the header onto the post.
The penalty was a bogus call. Now we could argue that CR is real toots this rounds, it definitely look so. However we now done collect licks from this same age group not too long ago, so adjustments were made.
The midfield was working too, however there were moments of spectating and not tracking your mark, especially as these latin teams like to pass and move and play 1-2's.
On attack, we actually was looking good after we settle around the 15th minute. A little too much individualism and no set plan to advance the ball. However, dem dellas was shooting on sight, which lead to the goal.
After the goal, we stop playing constructive, went back into a shell and invite Costa Rica to play. It was all voom kick after that. In years past this would have been a recipe for disaster, but a solid back line, some well timed fouls plus a pretty average Costa Rica team allowed us to hold out.
Coming down to the end CR was running out of legs and ideas and allowed us to counterattack much more, which led to the freekick and the insurance goal. It was good skill by the sub, dribbling through two defenders to draw the foul and yellow card.
After that emphatic free kick, CR was deflated and we started to play a little more ball. Still gave away the ball unnecessarily though.
The difference between this team and bertille U-20 team is a Dwight Yorke type talisman.
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#4, I agree with you that the team was more physical. Trini_2018, by Costa Rican standards this team is not that good. You have to see their entire performance to understand what I am saying here. Closed the gap? Not quite, it is still a continental divide. If it was they had closed the gap I would be the first to say so but that performance runs deeper than on the field. If you understand what I am saying. As far as the T&T keeper was concerned, other than the penalty kick which he didn't have to save and the bullet that came directly at him, he had nothing else to do. I will say this, he looked very good in his restarts. The ball went directly to the player it was intended to for the most part.
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If anyone saw that entire game then you tell me about the quality of that performance and I will tell you if we saw the same game. As far as Costa Rica's performance is concerned, if they don't beat Canada by at least 3 goals in their last game to move on to the next round, their coach is not coaching another u17 team. Stick a fork in him he is done. They were piss poor. With that being said, Cooper must have told them to see the shot and be the shot. The first goal was soft. The keeper was snoozing and when you snooze you loose. The second goal by Sam was a gem, a little higher exactly where it was placed and not a goalkeeper in the world was going to save that rock. I will save my indictment of this performance for later. Congratulations on the win, yeah, but now you are left depending on another team to determine your destiny.
I'll call a spade a spade: the first goal, took a slight deflection. I don't think it was only a result of the keeper being asleep.
I agree with Deese- I'm not taking anything away from our boys' effort, but it was obvious that CR side is not too good of a team at all, especially by Costa Rican standards.
Also, just an observation: T&T had a definite physical and athletic advantage and used it for all it was worth. The difference in size and athleticism between the squads made us look like one of those African "U-17" sides.
Hopefully T&T will have a chance to remove all doubts against a better team in the quarterfinals.
or could it be we prepared and closed the GAP .... in the past the national team prep was one or two games against a pro league team then one international we entered the tournament and lost by 1 or 2 nil .... effort was put into preparation and we won, now costa rica is sub standard :bs: .... ....
ent!!! people dont realize how far these guys have come. they were getting bounced around by the likes of guyana and suriname last year because they were so small and weak. the coaching staff put a lot of time into developing them physically and preparing them for war.
that same costa rican side rest a 3-0 cut ass on us just over a month ago. now that our boys work like dogs to scrape out a victory all of a sudden costa rica is a shit side. steups
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Good, win.
Think we are a bit to individualistic in the top half of the field. Many time in the highlights the extra pass would have been very productive, but we settle for the man on the ball hitting it. It did work though as we got the lead from it.......scouting?
Would love to see a bit more patience in the attacking side of the field.
However, a win is a win is a win.
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I have been saying and I'll say it again we have talented athletes with lots of potential with the right preparation we would always be hard to beat. The Gods smiled on us last night ..the players put in a workmanlike effort defensively and the Costa Ricans disrespected us and paid dearly. I am happy and I am proud ..it was good for our boys..I hope they could pull out another victory. I am still not giving credit to the coaching staff because I can see a lot of problems ..the team still not working well together going forward..the goalkeeper is less than average and we still allowing crosses from the wing.
I had to eat my words though..anyway Congrats T+T.
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coache, we have problems moving the ball fluidly into the box. even manu and real madrid have problems moving forward sometimes.
the take away message is that we were beaten by costa rica in march. our coach was able to use that experience to prepare the team for victory and outcoach his counterpart.
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I don't know about that being a weak CR team. You don't play your weak team in first game in a competition like this. CR played the same way as the they do. Control the middle short passes (lateral and forward) and when the spaces are created they quickly seize on it to move forward. They were doing that all night and I wouls say had 60% of the game. But our guys were mentally better prepared than previous teams playing against CR. Maybe the lil tour before the tournament help. Who knows. Our guys did not make as much bad passes and they were sheilding the ball from their opponents with certain amount of confidence. Like I said we had less possesion, but when we moved forward, especially on the fast break we looked dangerous. Our shooting needs to improve and we need to keep the ball some more. Because the more them CA teams control the game, the chances that they will score is highly certain. But this team look more cohesive than previous teams. Boy, and what a first goal can do for your psyche. Soft goal, well placed shot. You take your pick. But Tall Boy free kick was the pierce de resistance. I hoping to see that on Fox Goal of the Week. Right back, left back were tough most of the game.
Chubby,the GK, did well. He was always in the game. Did not get napping, like the first goal in the first game. Looks kind of short , especially with that oversize jersey. But he was good. We need more possession and some harder shots at goal are my only little issue. But I know how they guys feeling. They in the jump up still. A tie or loss meant they packing they bags to come home. Good luck Young Warriors.
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Great results considering this same T&T team lost 3-0 to Costa Rica just February.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/L4z8r-Q9ko4
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Zandolie I will take back some of the harsh criticism of the coaching staff ..I watched the first 15mins of the match and I could see some things. I saw collective pressure on the ball and denial of space. I also saw the good use of the players size and strength to create problems for the opponents. Thank God Trinidad players are usually pretty good on the ball and I think they demonstrated that against a very good team. I have seen better keepers from my country in the past and I am just not sold on this foreign kid.
I think the philosophy being used by the coach appears to be quite simple and requires a lot of hard work by the players..I feel that the players are up to it. I feel that if we could spend a lot of time practicing set plays i.e throw ins, corners I prefer short corners and I always go first post even if last post was used first post is always the final objective, and free kicks. Ofcourse defending set plays is important and I would be working on possession and finishing in the final third.
I give credit to the staff for selecting a well balanced team.
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Thanks man!! :beermug:
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I must say the coachman had a plan to play without the ball..much better job than Shabazz ..kudos to Coach Cooper.
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Catching the game now ... with respect to the first 15 minutes ... one of the notable things is that we haven't made 1 negative pass yet. On the senior team we would have made about 40 by now.
Paused just to note the commentator bigs up Latas and mentions that it was Latas who scored on May 17, 1985 in Mexico in Costa Rica's first ever outing versus us at U17 level. Game ended 1-1.
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The penalty was a bogus call.
Ah rewind the clip bout 4 times cuz ah was trying to figure out what the ref see that I didn't......so ah glad was just not me.....
oh and yes....well done yutes...... :applause: :beermug:
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Great results considering this same T&T team lost 3-0 to Costa Rica just February.
I was now coming to point this out.....there is no way to please people like King Dese. When we lose, we are shit and when we win, the opponent is shit. I saw the game and these guys had their backs against the wall with everything to play for. They fought for each other and got the result they deserved. I'm very proud ofthis side since under normal circumstances, we would have been hammered bya country considered to be a CONCACAF powerhouse.
If someone really calls a spade a spade......they would say that even though we drew with Sweden, we shouldve lost......or although we held England goaless for 80+ mins, they shouldve hit us 5 before that. It is sad when people always find a negative in all situations.
It is amazing that someone doesn't want to give the coaching staff credit when we beat a team who hammered us in a friendly two months ago.
Ah love it!!
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Great results considering this same T&T team lost 3-0 to Costa Rica just February.
ha cooper said it could have been 5-3 in our favor ... the result did not reflect the game guess he was right
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I am happy for the win too against Costa Rica although I didnot see performance. It seems we still have to do some work but the opprtunities at this level are important so that we could build consistently and have a comprehensive programme like Mexico and the US so that appearnces at the FIFA World Cup would not be a one off affair. We have reached close in the past before we finally made it on a 4th place berth in 2006 and we could again in the future. I hope Canada wins tonight.
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More feedback from someone who was at the game:
We play well at times but lost shape on several occasions. Settle down better in the 2nd half.
Some nice talent on view. I like Andrews, Gomez (best), Sam, and Garcia.
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The defence wasn't too bad at all and Costa Rica did not have any clear cut chances other than the header onto the post.
The penalty was a bogus call. Now we could argue that CR is real toots this rounds, it definitely look so. However we now done collect licks from this same age group not too long ago, so adjustments were made.
The midfield was working too, however there were moments of spectating and not tracking your mark, especially as these latin teams like to pass and move and play 1-2's.
On attack, we actually was looking good after we settle around the 15th minute. A little too much individualism and no set plan to advance the ball. However, dem dellas was shooting on sight, which lead to the goal.
After the goal, we stop playing constructive, went back into a shell and invite Costa Rica to play. It was all voom kick after that. In years past this would have been a recipe for disaster, but a solid back line, some well timed fouls plus a pretty average Costa Rica team allowed us to hold out.
Coming down to the end CR was running out of legs and ideas and allowed us to counterattack much more, which led to the freekick and the insurance goal. It was good skill by the sub, dribbling through two defenders to draw the foul and yellow card.
After that emphatic free kick, CR was deflated and we started to play a little more ball. Still gave away the ball unnecessarily though.
The difference between this team and bertille U-20 team is a Dwight Yorke type talisman.
RE: the first bold ... spot on. Even beyond "1-2s", where movement is intentionally deceptive (say, to distract a marker or to create space) for another player to receive the decisive ball ... what you observed presented a danger ... and it occurred frequently. Because it's U-17 ball, I won't specify players.
Also associated with this is actions by players (jogging back to the defensive side of the ball) who make attempts at winning the ball from positions from which they have little or no chance of winning the ball. This sparks an unnecessary foul or helps generate the attack.
RE: second bold. I haven't finished reviewing the match, but there were some subtleties to suggest the CRC players were at least pyschologically sophisticated. Had their transition game been ... lehwe say, more assertive ... we could have been in for a warm time. Technically, I saw some things that said "Intercol" (time on the ball ... time taken to dominate the ball ... choice of surface to do so), but none of that was fatal for us ... in one case, it even won us a foul.
So ... how do we assess Costa Rica? As a weak team? Or, as a weak Costa Rican team? The Costa Rican commentators noted during the game (so it wasn't Monday morning quarterbacking) that this was a trying period for the youth team when compared to past squads.
Based on what I've seen, I think we had little margin for error ... even against this team not gifted with Medfords and Wanchopes.
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More feedback from someone who was at the game:
We play well at times but lost shape on several occasions. Settle down better in the 2nd half.
Some nice talent on view. I like Andrews, Gomez (best), Sam, and Garcia.
We play well at times but lost shape on several occasions. Settle down better in the 2nd half
Exactly. CR still controlled the majority of the game. We have to stop this from happening at all levels when we play CA countries, especiallyy CR and Hondo. and EL Sal. to a lesser extent. But we have some promising yutes.
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Overall, I liked what I saw (aggression, running off de ball, willingness to shoot, trying to play de ball out from de back etc.). I could also go ahead and nitpick about various tings dat ah didn't like, but ah would limit it to two major ones:
1. Didn't really seem to have a defensive shape. Many times you would see about 4 or 5 defenders standing in a line.
2. We made it too easy for Costa Rica to reach our half. I eh know if dis was part of de tactics, but to me it was only inviting trouble.
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Overall, I liked what I saw (aggression, running off de ball, willingness to shoot, trying to play de ball out from de back etc.). I could also go ahead and nitpick about various tings dat ah didn't like, but ah would limit it to two major ones:
1. Didn't really seem to have a defensive shape. Many times you would see about 4 or 5 defenders standing in a line.
2. We made it too easy for Costa Rica to reach our half. I eh know if dis was part of de tactics, but to me it was only inviting trouble.
Dem two things alone made it pleasant to watch a nat'l team again!
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2. We made it too easy for Costa Rica to reach our half. I eh know if dis was part of de tactics, but to me it was only inviting trouble.
That is my biggest concern.
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They are young players still learning the game... this is a big step up. What is their level of experience? Commitment to the cause with a sprinkling of individual brilliance and occasional collective interplay is what we getting, anything more is icing. The learning curve is steep and is a big ask for the boys. They get A+ for effort from me.
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Well done TnT!!! :beermug:
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Them boys played with heart and they relly talented...promising future with support!! Well done fellas...make us proud!
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More feedback after I asked where on the field does Gomez play and why he was so impressed with him:
He plays Right Back. Best in the Tournament Group hands down. He is modern, fit, aggressive, technical, good in the air, and covers every blade of grass (turf)
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More feedback after I asked where on the field does Gomez play and why he was so impressed with him:
He plays Right Back. Best in the Tournament Group hands down. He is modern, fit, aggressive, technical, good in the air, and covers every blade of grass (turf)
your friend has a good eye..Shannon Gomez is our next big thing.. Everytime I have seen this kid play I am utterly impressed. Huge Talent
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Stueps you know how many next big player the TTFF discard. How many players from the last two youth world cups on the senior team? You never hear about them again.
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More feedback after I asked where on the field does Gomez play and why he was so impressed with him:
He plays Right Back. Best in the Tournament Group hands down. He is modern, fit, aggressive, technical, good in the air, and covers every blade of grass (turf)
Undeniable observations. :)
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Roberts salutes U-17s for winning on ‘astroturf’
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Thursday, April 11, 2013
Sean Nero
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Cheerleaders from the Chaguanas North Secondary School entertain participants at the close of the Secondary Schools Leadership Symposium hosted by the Sports Desk at the Cascadia Hotel, St Ann’s, yesterday. Guest speaker on the final day was Sport Minister Anil Roberts. PHOTO: ANDRE ALEXANDER
Sport Minister Anil Roberts has described as tremendous the performance by this country’s under-17 boys’ football team which defeated Costa Rica 2-0 in Monday’s Group B Concacaf World Cup qualifier.
As a consequence, the young Soca Warriors kept their chances alive in qualifying for the 2013 FIFA U-17 World Cup in the United Arab Emirates.
Speaking at yesterday’s close of the four-day Secondary Schools Leadership Symposium titled No Pain, No Gain produced by The Sports Desk and held at the Cascadia Hotel, Roberts stirred the teen audience with his commendation of the performance from the young squad.
“Let’s salute our under-17 boys for destroying Costa Rica on astroturf because—for you all who don’t understand—playing football on astroturf and grass are two different things. Costa Ricans grew up on astroturfs. We only have one football field, which is Marvin Lee Stadium in Macoya that is astroturf (ready) for football. Therefore, we are at a tremendous disadvantage, because the way you roll your foot on the ball, the way the ball stops, the way it bounces, the way you beat, the way you tackle, is all different from grass. So, for our young men to blow out Costa Rica which has 22 astroturf pitches, is tremendous,” said the minister.
Roberts was at the time underscoring the need for young people to go beyond the call in order to achieve convincingly. If you are supposed to do homework for two hours and you stop, that’s good, he said, because you would have done what you are supposed to do. But, he went on to explain that simply doing what you are told would not make you a leader.
Using the achievement of T&T’s own Dwight Yorke on the international football scene the minister said people look at him (Yorke) and the things he owns and desire to be like him because in their opinion, he is lucky.
What they should know said Robert was that, “Luck is when opportunity meets preparation. Dwight Yorke not lucky! Dwight has God-given skills and he’s a Tobagonian who worked hard, hard, while all of us where liming and partying, he was with a ball in the hot sun whole day in Tobago.
“When coaching finish, Dwight Yorke with his ball; when school finish, Dwight Yorke with his ball. When Dwight Yorke in his bedroom, he with his ball and that’s why Dwight Yorke reached where he reached—not because he did what the coach said. He refused to stop when they said stop.”
Over the past four days, 300 teen participants benefited from a series of interactive sessions with influential sporting personalities such as legendary cricketer Brian Lara, multiple Olympic medallist Ato Boldon, four-time Olympic sprint finalist and bronze medal winner Marc Burns and Olympic cycling finalist Njisane Phillip and world boxing champion Ria Ramnarine.
Covering topics such as Taking Charge, Confidence vs Arrogance, Beating the Odds and the Principle, the gathering also heard from motivational speakers Don La Foucade and Joseph O’Brien, Kwanize John, Brian Lewis and Derek Daniel.
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Ah missing something. Did the Minister do anything to assist the team when they were denied a chance to train on astro turf at the MLS??
Well I glad he noticed the result.
VB
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Roberts jokey yes
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Creed, the son of Anil Roberts right hand man Ashwin Creed is de captain and he made sure and support the team, thank God he son on de team or else is salt.
Now that de team doing well, you go hear Anil big mouth.
De question is, when everything is ova what will Anil do now with de players ?
Anil is a big mouth shit !!
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Final score at regulation T+T 1 PAN 1 ...Trinidad win on penalties 5-3
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Ah missing something. Did the Minister do anything to assist the team when they were denied a chance to train on astro turf at the MLS??
Well I glad he noticed the result.
VB
Hush nah vb...when he coulda open he big trap to get dem the field for practice, church mouse style!!!
And speaking of which, what about all the hullabaloo that was made about the whole astroturf thing?
Them youth and them move as though (like Costa Rica, according to Roberts) they grow up on astroturf.
I LOVE when people point out (the glaringly obvious) that it's different playing on astroturf as opposed to playing on natural grass...REALLY? Thanks for the effing englightment!!!!